PBD Podcast - Australian Pastors WARN Islam's Invasion, Bondi Beach & Censorship | PBD Podcast | Ep. 704

Episode Date: December 20, 2025

Patrick Bet-David sits down with Australian pastors Martin and Millicent Sedra to discuss their escape from religious persecution in Egypt, the rise of radical Islam in the West, the Bondi Beach terror attack, censorship laws in Australia, and why they believe Christianity and Islam are fundamentally incompatible. A raw and intense conversation on faith, freedom, and the future of the West.------Ⓜ️ CONNECT WITH MARTIN ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/44DEOqLⓂ️ CONNECT WITH MILLICENT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/48YArI5✝️ FAITH OVER FEAR COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/3MIFOUu🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso ⁠⁠⁠⁠Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

We saw the video, the father and son, you know, killed 15 people. I think one of the person just died as well, ages 10 to 87 years old, 42 people hospitalized. Muslims will always do what Muslims do. And when you bring one Muslim in the West, they will do what they do best. They will hate the infidel. They would destroy the country. They will bring Sharia law.

They will bring Sharia law. What would have happened if he would have killed the killer? I have to walk around in fear if someone going to attack my wife and how to protect them i have to use an umbrella apparently you see the way he's shooting who trained them how to do this that's not regular training right there in islam a day out with your son looks like going and shooting some jews who is causing the havoc is it a pattern who is not you are committing suicide and they are using our democracy to throw that's the choice the audience got to make yeah they got to decide what direction they want to go to

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My son's drive there. I think I've ever said this before. Okay, so I want to introduce you to a special couple that I've been following and watching these guys doing incredible work. Martin and Millicent Sidra, who just flew in from Australia, 40 minutes outside of Bondi Beach is where they live in Sydney. And this is a very unique story because this is a story of a man and his wife escaped a Muslim brotherhood in Egypt. Thailand stayed there for a year before they could go to Australia and there were a lot of threats on their lives. And now he's a preacher. His father was a preacher. He now preaches with his wife and they do great work going around the world. And I thought it was appropriate to have the

conversation now. So we are having a conversation right after what happened in Australia, the tragic events that took place with Australia, especially today, seven people getting caught that they were about to repeat the same exact thing that happened at Bondi. We've all seen this clip. So very timely, but great to have you guys here. Oh, it's such an honor to be here. Thank you. We appreciate you. We love your work. Thank you. Thank you. Fantastic. So, I mean, obviously, with everything that happened in Australia, I want to get into that. I want to get into, you know, how ugly it is. Is it getting better? Is it, are you seen any progress? And then as well as, you know, some of the stuff that you're seeing going on with the West. And we can talk about a

wide range of topics. But if you don't mind, before getting started so the audience knows, maybe share your background and your stories that they know who you guys are. Yeah. So my name is Martin Cedra. I'm a pastor and a preacher. This is my beautiful wife, Millicent, Cedra. We met in Australia, got married. I'm originally from Egypt. Egypt, 1,400 years ago, the Christian country.

We were 90% Christian. Islam conquered Egypt, took over it. The Egyptians thought, no way, Islam would take over our country. They did. Now Islam is 90% of Egypt, and Christianity is at 10%. So my family grew up in Egypt as a Christian minority. My dad was a

preacher. And his main ministry, instead of planting a church, because it's very hard to plant churches in a Muslim country, he decided I'm going to preach to Muslims. So his main ministry was just to preach to Muslims about Jesus Christ. And he was seeing hundreds of Muslims come to Christ, even thousands of them coming to Christ. And really, what he was doing was suicide. That's under Islam Sharia law. That's apostasy laws. If a Muslim conversed to Christianity, they must die. And even the pastor or maybe his family will suffer consequences. So my dad knew the whole time that he was putting his whole family in danger. His wife, my whole family, there's four of us, Andrew John, me, my twin sister, Martina. And he really knew that one of us

was going to die one day. Maybe he might come home from preaching and one of us would be killed. And the Muslim Brotherhood threatened him many times. The government got him many times to threaten him, lots of death threats. And they told him, stop preaching Jesus many times. And my dad every time would say, I'm not going to stop preaching Jesus. My dad was a bold line. He did not back down. But one day, really this was the turning point, the pinnacle of our story. One day my dad was preaching to a bunch of Muslims and a specific Muslim lady was in a crowd who was wearing hijab. And my dad was preaching at the end of the sermon, she hears the love of Jesus. She hears the truth of the Bible. She converts from Islam to Christianity. She goes home and my dad

doesn't know that her husband is a leader of a Muslim terrorist group. So this woman that converted to Christianity, he thought she was just a normal Muslim lady. Her husband is a leader of a Muslim terrorist group. The man finds out that his wife is now Christian. He's furious. He's angry. He plans to obviously wants to come off to my dad. And the plan was he was going to kidnap my brothers. My brothers were nine and five at the time, Andrew and John. He was going to kidnap them, behead them, put him in a bag, send it to the front door of my dad's house to teach him a lesson. Don't preach Jesus again. That's just what Muslims do. Muslims, if they want to, if you mess with the Muslims in a Muslim country, if you mess with their Allah, if you critique Muhammad, what I am doing

now, they will come after us. We've had people follow us in shopping centers a few weeks ago. What we're doing now is in Australia. In Australia. This is just Islam. So the man decides, you know what, you want to mess with my wife? You want to preach Jesus to her? I'm going to come after you. So he studies my brothers at the age of 9 and 5. He realizes they go to the school bus at 7 in the morning. He sends two Muslim men an event to kidnap them, behead them, put them in the back, send it to my dad. The two Muslim men, and this is a miracle and the power of Christianity and the God of the Bible. The two Muslim men rock up 7 o'clock in the morning. They see my brothers and they want to kidnap them.

As they try to get out of the van, they feel frozen in the van. These are two Muslim men who kill preachers and politicians for living. They feel frozen in the van. They don't know what's going on. My brothers get on a school bus. The school bus leaves. The Muslim men unfreeze again. And now they're looking at each other.

They're like, you coward. They're confused. What's going on? We've killed many people before killing a five-year-old and a nine-year-old. That should be like little cockroaches for us. They go to the boss. The boss, the next day is angry. He sends two bigger Muslim men.

And he says, finish the job. And these two men come with a mission to kidnap my brothers and behead them. They come to the school bus seven in the morning the next day. This time they were able to get out of the van. They get out of the van. They're standing right behind my brothers at the school bus. Five and nine-year-old. And as they go to kidnap my brothers, Andrew and John, as they go to kidnap my brothers,

they fill a supernatural hand, an angel. And a lot of listeners will be like, this guy's lying. There's no miracles. There's a lot of miracles happening in the Middle East. And God is moving. They feel a supernatural hand. An angel grab both their hands and tie it behind their heads. These Muslim men don't know what's going on.

They don't know it's an angel. My brothers get on the school bus. The school bus leaves and the two Muslim men unfreeze again. And now the boss doesn't know what's going on. He's killed many people before. He goes to my dad's house, knocks on the door, and he sits with my dad and he tells him the story. And that's how we know what happened. He says, I try to kill your children.

I tried to behead them. This was the plan. And it failed. And he lands by saying this statement. And this was the pinnacle of our testimony. He says, I tried to kill your children, but your God protected them. And that Muslim terrorist leader, the Muslim Brotherhood leader, in the living room, in our house, becomes a Christian, repents of Islam, gets baptized, and Jesus Christ reigns.

And what this story tells me, for all my listeners here, whether you're a Christian and Muslim, this story tells me one thing, that the God of the Bible is the one true God. This story tells me one thing. People tell me, why are you not scared of Islam? Why are you not scared of Muhammad? Paso Maran, why are you not scared to? Your wife might get killed. Your future kids might get killed.

But my wife is pregnant now, and I'm like, mate, what if they try to kill my future kid? And they always ask me, why are you not scared? And I tell them, you know what? I'm not scared. My God is the one true God. And if God wants me dead, I'm going to die. So this tells me my God is stronger than Allah. My God is stronger than Muhammad.

My God is stronger than all of the Muslim Brotherhood combined. And really, we've seen a miracle working hand of God. And this is a testimony we come out of. And that's why we don't care what people think. We're like, let's go. What's some worse that can happen? You're going to kill me. If I die, I die.

They killed Charlie Kirk. They killed Charlie Kirk and they thought it's finished. No, you didn't kill Charlie Kirk. You multiplied his influence. You created a revival in America. As Tatulian said in the second century, the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church. Every time they kill Christians, we don't decrease. We go bigger.

And this is what happened in the Old Testament. The Pharaoh, he's angry at the Hebrews. They're multiplying. He oppresses them. What happens? They multiply. Same thing. They kill the Christians.

They kill Stephen in the Old Testament. what happens the church grows and that's what we've seen and we're ready we're ready for whatever Islam has to offer we're ready so so for the for the what a testimony by the way the average person when you tell stories like that in Egypt how common was stories like that where somebody would get killed for being a Christian how common was that very common very common on Christmas we're about to have Christmas in America we're about to celebrate Christmas Easter all these things we go to church and think it's just you know a nice safe day in Egypt you go to church no knowing that there might be a bombing. Christians go to church knowing that one church might get bombed.

There will be a terrorist attack. Someone's going to get killed. My dad's had, my dad as a pastor, I had many pastor friends who got killed. So this is a normal story. In fact, before you become a pastor in Egypt, before you become a pastor, this is what they teach you in college. They don't teach you how to communicate and how to talk and how to you know to use hand signals. They teach you one lesson. And the lesson is this. If you preach, don't fear. And if you fear, don't preach. That was the one lesson that they told you as a pastor If you preach, don't fear And if you fear, don't preach

Because it's not for you You're laying your life down You're laying your wife's life down And you're laying your kid's life down On the line for the sake of Jesus Christ And we decided we're willing to do that How'd you guys meet? We met at 13 years old

He was like a bold preacher, anointed at 13 preaching In front of thousands of people We've always both of us Since a very young age I remember at eight years old Encountering the Holy Spirit and knew that from that day forward,

I'm on this earth to advance the kingdom. I'm on this earth to preach the truth of God's word, no matter what the cost. And so I met this 13-year-old fiery Egyptian who had just come to Australia. He was actually meant to come to the USA and got rejected. So praise the Lord, because he came to my nation of Australia. And so, yeah, when I see this fiery preacher preaching,

I told my parents at the age of 13, I'd met my husband. And then we got married. And I told her on our first date day, I told her, Millie, I told her we might not own a house, we might not be rich, I don't know what God is going to do with us. We might get killed for our faith, but I told her, are you ready to commit to the call of God? And she said, I'm ready. I said, let's go. Let's get married.

And we got married very young. And we're saying, Lord, here we are, send us. Yeah. Is this your first? Are you expecting your first? Yeah. Our first baby. Congratulations.

Martin wants one for every continent. I'm having seven babies. This is one of seven. But it's hard to get doesn't count. I want to beat the Muslims. The Muslims are having many. babies i love it i'm gonna beat them go do it if i if i if my wife was open to the idea i'd keep her pregnant for 20 years i mean it's just exactly something that we're open yeah yeah that's right

so now you know with this amazing story that you guys have and i want to still come back to your testimony egypt all of that and and then the different challenges we face but let's let's talk about australia yeah you just flew out here from australia right 16 hour flight to come down here your 40 minutes, if I'm not mistaken, outside of Bondi Beach. Walk me through what you saw, what you hear, what the people are saying. You know, we saw the video, the father and son, you know, killed 15 people. I think one other person just died as well, which is 16 people, ages 10 to 87 years old, 42 people hospitalized.

We're seeing all these things that is taking place, just tragic at the highest level. Even the man Ahmed al-Ahmet, that took the weapon away. and he didn't even want to shoot the father, father runs away. I think he even may have gotten shot by a cop. Well, he can't shoot legally in Australia. In Australia, you can't shoot. So walk me through for someone that lives in Australia, many of us don't. What was it like and what has changed?

For many years, Pat, we've been saying Islam is a religion of peace. For many years, the government has been telling us Islam is a religion of peace. They're just like Christians, they're easygoing. And we knew coming from Egypt that they're not a religion of peace. But we're like, let's wait to see what's going on. On last Sunday, as you said, Pat, two Muslim men, a 24-year-old and a 50-year-old father, son and father, go to Bondi Beach 40 minutes away from our church during Hanukkah Festival, shoot at thousands of Jews. As you said, 15 Jews die.

And if it wasn't for that heroic man, thank God for him, who stopped him, there would have been a lot more people that died. They traced back this guy, they found in his car that there was explosives. In a 24-year-old kid, there was explosives in his car. They found two ISIS flags related to the Muslim Brotherhood. Not just that. They trace back his studies. And they found that he studied in Sydney, where we're from, in Sydney, Australia, studied in a place called Medina Dawa Center. That's where he studied. He studied in the Quran. There was a photo there of him with his teacher. That's him studying. That's him studying right there. A 24-year-old kid studying just the Quran. You know, this beautiful, amazing, apparently peaceful, nice book studying it. And he comes out as a terrorist. And people are surprised how did this guy happen? How did this guy become a terrorist? There's no surprise about it.

The Quran commands him to do that. The Quran commands him to kill the infidel. The Quran commands him to behead dumb believer. The Quran behind him commands him to behead and terrorize the polytheists. Who are those guys? It's the Christians. Who is the infidel? The Jews.

Who is the infidel? It's any person who does not believe in Allah and Muhammad don't want true prophets. So when people say this guy was a radical Muslim for me, he's not a radical Muslim. He's a faithful Muslim. He's a normal Muslim. They keep saying, they keep trying to ratify. You know, radical Islam, it's not radical Islam. It's faithful Islam.

Muhammad commanded him to do that. And that's what he started, and that's what he did. Now, let me ask you, when you see this way, Rabifkin, rewind it. And when you see the way he's shooting, who trained him how to do this? That's not regular training right there. He's an excellent shooter. You're right. Do we know at this point how we learn?

We know he went to the Philippines. He went to the Philippines. Something just came out today or yesterday. He went to the Philippines to train. Not much facts have come out yet, but he did train somewhere. And they need to trace. The problem with these guys, they need to trace back who made him a terrorist, what must did he study in,

and who trained him to do that? Because it's not one jihadi. There's a lot of people backing him. There's a lot of people behind him, financially. There's a lot of power behind his guy. We need to find all of them. And going to what you say, like how you mentioned that, yeah, people say, oh, it's a religion of peace.

This is just radical. People are bringing up the man that stopped him, saved him, and the fact that he was Muslim. But the truth is all the reports are coming out now of the Muslim community saying, oh, he's a traitor. And that's the truth. If Muhammad was around today and saw that this hero who stopped the terrorist from attacking and killing more people, Muhammad would have killed him for apostasy being a traitor. And the idea that people say, you know, is the religion of peace?

Why do you have to say the religion of peace? If it's a peaceful religion, you wouldn't even be using that language. Like how come we don't say Christianity, a religion of peace? peace because nobody feels today threatened by Christians. Nobody went, by the way, on Sunday, when we were at church when we got the news, on Sunday when we hear about the terrorist attack, we never, for a second thought, oh, it was a bunch of Christians. Oh, it was a bunch of people. You know straight away, because truth is, terrorism has a religion and terrorism has a book. And so we knew straight away as the reports came through that what kind of organization.

Now, let me ask you this, because there was a speech that was given by man on August 29th, who is Australian. And he is, I don't know who this man is. You may know him because it's your world. Here's the man. He looks like a cowboy. I don't know if you've seen this or not. He's a funny guy. Okay. So I want you to watch this. And then tell us who he is and then tell us how many more people in Australia feel the same way. Go ahead, Rob. I want their names because we have had a tradition of toleration. These people are not tolerating us. So you don't tolerate us, we want you out of this country. Because this country is fed up with your, oh, we must be nice to everybody.

Well, I'm not particularly nice to people that crossed the border, invaded another country and murdered over 1,200 people. Tick the boxes. Do they have democracy? Do they have rule of law? Do they have Christianity or some similar belief system? Do they have egalitarian traditions? do they have industrial awards? Now, if they don't tick the boxes, they don't come here.

If you have anti-Australian sentiments, then get to hell out of my country. I want to... How many people are like him today in Australia that are sick of it? One, who is he? And how many people, he's apparently won the members of the parliament? Yeah. How powerful is he? Who is he? How big is he?

How much influence does he have? And how many more Australians feel the same way as he does? Honestly, that guy has been going viral. I don't know who he is. who he is. He's a Lebanese guy. I like what he's saying right now. But a lot of people are starting to think what he's thinking. Before they weren't, they were scared of being called racist and Islamophobic. And that's by the way the label they keep putting on us for speaking about Islam. They say you're racist, you're Islamophobic and we've been scared to

speak about it. But now the story is turning. People are finally waking up and they're realizing, yeah, we need to speak about this. But what worries me though is they said that about 9-11. They said we'll never forget. They said we'll never forget that one of them of the Muslims, the one of them shouted Allah al-Aubbar, and they forgot and they voted in Zahra and Mabani. So I'm wondering how long is Australia going to stay awake, give it a few months and they're going to forget again, and they're going to get more immigrants in, and they're going to get more Muslims in. So we'll see how long that lasts. People on the ground, I think, feel this way. And that is scaring our Prime Minister, Anthony

Albanese, communist, communist guy. It's scaring him. And so he just said yesterday last night that is bringing in five reforms in order to essentially people like Martin and myself will most likely in the next couple of years could face jail prison sentences because if we say something against the ideology of Islam that will be considered hate speech and they are now cranking up. Even after what happened he's saying that you can't speak so it's hate speech laws we've already had the police come to our church many times we preach about Islam all of the time every single time we preach about Islam, we know the following day, the federal police will come to our campus and they will say that you are committing hate speech. So by us simply talking

about what is in the Quran, what is in the book, what is in the ideology, not the people, the ideology, by simply saying that, by simply saying that Muhammad, he married a six-year-old, consummated the marriage with Aisha at nine, by saying that, Australia is saying this is hate speech for us saying that. Now they said they're going to increase the punishment and the sentence. So they're not treating the Muslims like they're the terrorists. They're saying all preachers. Notice of what he used, Anthony Albanese. He didn't say the Muslim imams.

We're going to watch what they say. He said preachers. Who's a preacher? I'm a preacher. Every preacher, he's going to be watching what they say. It's us. All I say is repent. All I tell people is repent of your sin.

All I tell people is marriages between a man and a woman. That's all we tell them. And we see Muslims get saved at our church. And we see Muslims get saved at a church. So we're not going around bombing people and killing people. But for some reason, he wants to put us in the same category as this Muslim imams who are preaching, kill the infidel. We never tell Christians to kill people. We tell them preach the truth, but he wants to put hate speech laws next to each other with the Muslims. Yeah, so here's a

Prime Minister, Rob, if you want to play that clips. Here's a Prime Minister talking about what he's planning on doing after what happened at Bondi Beach. Go forward. We take Asia's advice very seriously. We work closely with them. We receive regular updates as well. The Director General of Asia has warned about a range of threats. be it, anti-Semitism, the rise of right-wing extremist groups as well. And we continue to work closely with our security agencies. Right-wing extremism. So once again, the Muslims are not the problem.

It's the right-wing. Once again, he's scared to be called an Islamophobic. And I would say the Jews that died on that day, their blood is on his hands. Their blood is on his hand. Why? He allowed in 2023 the Muslims to gather in front of Opera House and shout gas to the Jews. He allowed that. The Muslims gathered in front of the opera house, one of the most iconic places in Sydney, the city,

and they shouted and chanted, gas the Jews. And you know who went to jail that day? A Jew went to jail. Wait, in front of the opera. Oh, got arrested. Sorry. Gas the Jews. And guess what the news reporter said. The news reporter says, no, the Muslims are not saying gas are Jews.

They're saying, where is the Jews? Or someone said, they're shouting, where is my shoes? No, no, they said, gas the Jews. That's what they said. Press play rap. Yeah, that's it. That's gas the Jews. That's two years ago.

He allowed that to happen. It's his fault. Gas the Jews. Gas the Jews. Two years ago. Two years ago. And I think it was on the 9th of September, a couple months ago, where they also had a huge rally on Bondi Beach.

The most iconic beach in Australia, they had a group of protesters with Palestinian flags. They had horses riding on the beach. nothing they did nothing so so their blood is on his hand he is a coward that's not willing to say the truth that islam is not a religion of peace and he's going to bring more immigration in so if more terrorist attacks happen it's his fault and people want him out now and by the way bondi beach is that an area where there's a high jewish population yeah that's the most jewish populations if not the most jewish population in australia yeah the most densely that's why they went there that's why the muslims went so when you see stats you'll see stats saying from 06 the

Australia population, Muslim population, went from 340,000 to some 880 right now, growth of 130 plus percent, is, right? One, how did that happen? Two, the immigration laws that they have in Australia. Three, where are they coming in from? Because my interest is stats and data. Who is causing the havoc? Is it a pattern?

Who is not? Like, are there people that are coming from Saudi that are not causing any havoc? Or there are people that are coming from Pakistan that are causing havoc. What do we know? The Pakistanis are mainly going to the UK. They're mainly going, the Pakistanis are going to Europe. What we're getting is a lot of, what we're getting is a lot of Arabs, like Iraqis. We're getting a lot of Afghans.

That's kind of the group we're getting, the Middle East guys. And these guys are coming and they're, we're getting, I think, around 250,000 immigrants a year. Like we're, and our population, bear in mind, our population is not like the U.S. We're 27 million people. We're very small population. So ratio-wise to allow in 250,000, 300,000 immigrants, that's conquering a country. And they're allowing people in. And I'm an immigrant myself.

I'm not anti-immigration. I'm an immigrant myself. And I'm grateful for Australia for bringing me in. But when I came to the country, I assimilated into the country. I got an Australian flag in my office. I pray for the country. I bless the country. As you say, I create jobs for the country.

I bring wealth to the country. That's what I did. That's how assimilated. So immigration is not the problem. The problem is, who are you allowing in? They're allowing in people that hate the country. They're allowing in people in America that shout death to America, death to the United States, death to Australia, death to Europe.

They're allowing people in that burn the flag. This is no longer immigration. This is an invasion. This is no longer being nice. And this is what they kept calling it multiculturalism. And they kept saying, we've got to be nice. We're going to open our borders. They need help.

You are destroying your country. You are committing suicide. and they are using our democracy to slit our throat. That's what they're using. They're saying, you guys claim to be free, you claim to be kind, allow us in, and we're allowing them in, and they're gathering in groups,

and now you see it in Michigan. America, what's happening in Michigan? They got the call to prayer industry. What's happening in New York City? Thousands of the Muslims gathering to pray in the street. This is what happens when you allow them in. So we've gone from immigration to invasion. And, yeah.

I mean, I grew up in Australia, so I've been there all my life, and the country is now. is not the country that I grew up in. It genuinely is starting to feel like a Muslim country. We mentioned, so just Monday, this past Monday, the day after the Bondi attacks, we're just out at the shops, just enjoying a date together.

And there's a group of five Muslim, maybe 20-year-olds, following us. We go up three flights of stairs. We go in all of these different shops just to test, are they truly following us? They were 100% following us, giving us these intimidating looks, trying to intimidate us the week before that.

We're at the medical center, you know, getting our checkups done. Another Muslim recognizes Martin and starts saying, he's on the phone saying, yeah, I hate that guy, I can't do anything because they'll record, starts looking at us, intimidating us, trying to scare us away. And so we've had to move church buildings multiple times because the mosque down the road called the authorities and said, they have a cross out the front of their building. They can't gather there anymore.

So we got kicked out of our buildings. We've had to move houses like three times because we can. keep getting Muslim neighbors and we received death threats all of the time. And so it's not, because of immigration, it does not feel like a safe country anymore. That's unbelievable. Because even like we're talking about earlier, what happened earlier today in Australia? The seven people that they found. Seven people. Another, the police rammed into two cars with seven people. And look at the photos. Whether they want to call the Muslims or not, just look at the photos. They're 99% extremists. They're 100% Muslims. Right. Can you play that clip? Look at the photos. Big be

Beards. Black outfits. This is 20 minutes from where we live. This is what? What city is this? This is Liverpool. Liverpool, 20 minutes from us. 20 minutes from you. Yeah. And what's Liverpool known for? All the Muslims live there. Muslims are in Liverpool. Yeah, they're in Liverpool. So it's like the London of Australia. Yeah, yeah. Liverpool is even worse. Like we were there, uh, around when October 7 was happening. And there was posters up all over Lekemba saying rape is resistance. No one takes it down. The government says nothing. Rape is resistance. Rape is resistance. October 7th. What Hamas did to Israel is... Justifying rape. Yeah, yeah.

Because Hamas raped the Israelis. They didn't just kill them and slaughter them on October 7th. The Hamas raped woman, them mutilated them. They put babies in ovens and burned them. And apparently that's resistance. That was them resisting Israel. Wow. Yeah. There was this, right? This is the seven?

Go forth. Yep. Go forward. We're back with the Vox News alert, a funeral held in Sydney today for the youngest victim of the Bondi Beach terror attack. Meanwhile, Australian counterterrorism police arresting several men A few hours ago, officials say they were possibly planning a violent attack. They were allegedly on their way to the site of last week's deadly shooting. Steve Harrigan, all over this, he's on Bondi Beach in Sydney.

Steve. Brian, definitely some dramatic and potentially disturbing video was Australia's counterterror police. They rammed two vehicles in Sydney. They say these seven men were planning to carry out a violent attack. Police are clear at this point that there is no known connection. between this planned attack and what happened here, the deadly attack on Sunday. In the meantime, as you mentioned, funerals underway here in Australia for the 15 victims of Sunday's deadly terror attack, funerals for the youngest victim, 10-year-old Matilda,

and the oldest as well, an 86-year-old Holocaust survivor. In the meantime, Australia's Prime Minister says it's clear the country has not done enough to battle anti-Semitism. The country. Since the terrible events of October, 223, we have... I have witnessed it. So what are the laws in Australia with Second Amendment? So you said earlier when I said to you about the man that took away,

Ahmad al-Hmahmed, that took the guns away, what would have happened if he would have killed the killer? Yeah. It's confusing. The way that they write the legislation, basically, so there is under no circumstances, you cannot carry a defense weapon for, or a weapon to use for the purposes of defense.

So if you were to like Google, what can you carry to defend yourself in Australia? They'll say, they'll suggest things like maybe carry a strong umbrella or carry a heavy battle with you. That's legit. It's illegal to carry pepper spray. It's illegal to carry a knife. You can't carry anything at all. So in 1996, they took the guns away.

And so basically you can still own a gun, but with very, very strict registration. And you cannot under any circumstances use a weapon in self-defense unless this is where the legislation is very tricky, unless there is a substantial threat on your life. But in the case of the man, they would have said you had enough time to run away. And in almost every case, if you were to use a gun to protect yourself, even if someone's in your house, in your car, threatening your family, you will most likely face charges. In 1996, is this due to the Port Arthur massacre that killed some 30-something? 36 people, yeah. And so that day, they're like, this is it.

We're taking guns away from. So for the next year, they basically took everybody that you had to drop all your guns to the police stations. You had to hand everything down. And obviously the evil guys are not dropping their guns. The Muslims will have it. They don't need to worry about that. It's just the good guys like us don't have guns. That's what Albanese said.

He said, because of this attack, we're going to tighten gun regulations, as though you can tighten it even more, stricter than Australia. I don't know how you can tighten it even further. But this is the problem with this whole gun laws discussion. It's that criminals will always get the guns. They will always get a hold of weapons. We see this. It's not like we don't have shootings and school shootings in Australia.

We have all of this. And so criminals will always get the guns and we need the good men who are able to protect us against the criminals to carry weapons to actually protect and defend. So that man probably couldn't use that gun to protect. So I have to walk around in fear

if someone going to attack my wife and how do I protect them? I have to use an umbrella apparently. If you Google it says martial arts. Yeah, or martial arts, which I don't do martial arts. I'm not sure how I'm meant to protect my family. Can you pull up to if it actually says use an umbrella?

Yeah, if you Google, if you Google, What can you carry to defend yourself in Australia? AI will tell you an umbrella, a heavy bag. To protect yourself in Australia. Defend yourself in Australia. Yeah. Hey guys, Pastor Martin Cedra here. If you have any questions about Jesus, Christianity, Islam,

or maybe you just want to know a little bit more about Muhammad versus Jesus. I'm here for you. If you need anything, if you need a church, we're planting a church all across America. So reach out to me through me next. AI will tell you. Look at that where it's generating. Yeah, look at that personal safety. Scroll down. Human flashlight. The last time I checked, they said, yeah, there it is. Heavy umbrella.

You gotta be kidding. A solid walking stick. Lawful non-defensive purpose, solid walking stick. Yeah, that will help me against a gun. Because you can't tell the government that I had this in case of. Enrolling in self-defense classes, such as Krav, or Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu provides you with skills and confidence to handle situations without relying on physical items. I need to start training. It'll take me about 10 years, but hopefully they don't kill me in the next 10 years before I learn Jiu-Jitsu.

So that's what we're dealing with. So they're setting us up for terrorist attacks. It's his fault. They need to fix the regulation. And a lot of people, Pat, they ask, how come it's always the Muslim men that commit terrorist attacks? And interesting enough, that, 24-year-old and his father, 50-year-old, they literally told the wife. They told, he told his wife, the father, that what's going to go out, you know, was going to go fishing or something, just a few days with my son. And in the West, a day out with your son looks like going fishing or swimming. In Islam, a day out with your son looks like going and shooting some Jews. That's what a day out looks like.

That's a nice day-day, father-son, day-day. And this is the thing about it, the reason they're willing to die. The reason Muslims are so arrogant and they're willing to shoot with no self-defense. Like that guy was shooting, no self-defense, nothing, just shooting and trying to kill people. They are promised that if they die as a martyr, they're going to get 72 virgins in heaven. So every Muslim man, why wouldn't he die? Every Muslim man is promised if you die for Allah. If you commit, if you die, if you kill Jews, if you kill Christians in the middle and you die,

you will get a reward of 72 virgins. So every Muslim man, sexually perverted men, they're like, let's go. That's why that fifth-year-old man, that sexually perverted fifth-year-old man, He doesn't care about his wife at home. She can be a widow now. I'm going to go to heaven and get 72 virgins. And that 24-year-old boy, he sadly, he didn't, like, I mean, for him, he would be very sad. He didn't die.

He was in a coma and just woke up today. And he didn't wake up to 72 virgins. He woke up to 72 cops surrounding him. So he'll be in a very big shock. So that's what Islam is. Islam is a violent religion. It's a sexually perverted religion. Heaven for them is a brothel.

Heaven for Muslims is a brothel. Heaven, heaven is, it's described as a massive pavilion, a massive street, a massive city filled with women, and you have, you can have sex with them as much as you want, and they're going to return as virgins. I'm like, it sounds like a religion made by a man for a man. It's a religion made by a sexually perverted man, Muhammad, for sexually perverted people. People might be listening and being like, that's too extreme. That's what he did. He's a sexually perverted person who had 11 wives, who raped slaves, who married a six-year-old and slept with him when she was nine. And people say slept with her.

I wouldn't say he slept with her. I would say he raped her. What nine-year-old would approve of sex? We actually, we used consummated. I would go, it's not consummated and it's not slept with. It's he raped her. At the age of nine, he raped her. It's a sexually perverted religion.

It's a brothel. Heaven is a brothel. For Christianity, we look up to heaven to see the Lord Jesus Christ. Right. Jesus said to the criminal on his left, he said, today you'll be with me in paradise. That's a beauty of Christianity. I look forward to being in the presence of my God.

I look forward to being with Jesus. Stephen, when he died and was getting marty. Stephen in Acts. It says he looked up to heaven and saw the son of God seated at the right hand of the Father. That's Christianity. We await the presence of the Lord. Muslims await the presence of a virgin.

And that's the sexually perversion of his own. To think of philosophically to compare what heaven looks like for a Muslim versus a Christian, if you can achieve that form of heaven, which is 72 virgins, If it's something that you can fashion up in your mind, you can imagine it. You could even achieve it technically here on this earth. That's clearly a heaven created in a man's mind.

But for us, our heaven is to be in the presence of God. The fact that we can't fathom that shows us that this is not something created by the man of a mind of a mind. So, Martin, let me ask you went to school in Egypt till 13. Till 9. Till 9. So you guys met at 13, but you guys left at 9. Yeah, we left the 9, met at 13. Okay. So when you went to school till nine, that means that's what? Third grade or fourth grade?

Yeah, third grade. Third grade. And you went to public school, Muslim school, not a private school. Okay. What did they teach you? What did you learn? What were some of the values and principles that were teaching to go into school? Did they touch theology? Did they teach you about Muslim? Islam? Did they teach you about Muhammad? Did they teach you about Jews? Did they teach you about Christians? And what did they teach you when you were going to school? So they do teach you the Quran, and that's why me and my family, we know a lot more about the Quran. Whether you're a Christian or not, they're going to teach you about the Quran. Not only that, you hear the call to prayer five times in a day. So five times a day, you hear the call to prayer, playing out in every speaker, five times a day, morning, afternoon, noon, all the five times you hear, Allah,u Akbar, you hear that Allah's the one true God, Muhammad's Prophet. Well, I was young, so I don't remember learning kind of, you know, the Jews and the Christian stuff, but they were teaching the Quran. And you could, that's the spirit of Egypt. There's fear among the Christians.

The spirit, the aroma of being a Christian in Egypt among Muslims, is you're scared for your life. There's no freedom. There's no, I can just go out in the street and preach. And this is a thing about the double standards between Christians and Muslim countries versus Muslims and Christian countries. Muslims are able to come to Christian countries migrate here and they're able to open mosques. They're able to wear hijabs. They're able to promote halal food.

They're able to pray in the street like New York City under Zoro. from Mdali, pray in the street, thousands of them. They're able to pray the court to prayer in Michigan. They're able to do all of that. They're able to evangelize to Christians and convert Christians to Muslims. And we say nothing about it. But what would happen if a Christian goes to a Muslim country? This is a double standard. A Christian goes to a Muslim country. Can I in a Muslim country where a cross around my neck and a Bible in my hand? If I walk around with this Bible in my hand in a Muslim country with a cross around my neck and preach the name of Jesus, I would be killed. I would be bashed in the street. And this is what we experienced. We saw the difference between

how Christians treat Muslims versus how Muslims treat Christians by living in Egypt and then moving to Australia and seeing America. So there's a double standard and it's they kill us like Christians and Muslim countries get killed and beheaded. Muslims and Christian countries get welfare and paid. What's the most vicious thing you saw as a kid growing up in Egypt? I personally, my dad really, my dad protected us from the visual side. He really took care of us. My dad was traveling, preaching. So he actually, he wasn't as home as often. He was always preaching. different places. He would come home, you know, after the sermon. My mom was really the one that that raised us. And when, when they raised us, my mom, my mom tried to keep us kind of

protected and sheltered from all the Islam stuff from the threats we were getting. My dad was the opposite. My dad wanted us to know that we were getting death threats. So I remember one time, one time when I was, when I was a kid, a Muslim guy left a, actually, before I share that story, you know, in Egypt, when I was one, I get a, I don't know what camera to look at, but when you, at the age of one, you get a cross tattooed on your wrist. So at the age of one, you get this cross tattooed on your wrist. I don't know if they can see that. But you get this cross tattooed on your wrist. You take your kid to the front of the church. You get a tattooed, the old school gun. And the reason we get this cross tattooed is the Muslims used to kidnap, the Muslims used to

kidnap Christian, raise them up in Muslim families, raise them up in Muslim families. And the kid growing up would never know that his parents are really Christian. So he would grow up and the Muslim parents raised him. And he would be like, yeah, that's my parents. So the Christian and parents would tattoo us from a young age, in case the Muslims kidnapped us, just in case, what if I, what if my kid gets kidnapped at the age of one? What are my kid gets kidnapped at the age of two? What a way to live? Is that literally what they were doing in Egypt? All my family, my brothers, my sister, my dad, my mom, we have this cross on our wrist just in case I get kidnapped. Like this is the violent Allah, the demonic prophet Muhammad that puts fear in the people

of God that they can't live. And they come to our country and they're allowed to pray in the street. They come to my country and they're allowed to mock Jesus. They come to my country and they're allowed to pray in this. They come to my country and wear hijabes and open mosques. And I have to go get a tattoo in case I get kidnapped. And this is why we got it just. And what they used to do, Pat, is even if they kidnapped you, even if they find a cross on your wrist, what they would do is they would burn it. They would burn it. They would just burn it off your wrist. And you would grow up and having a bunch of kids with burn marks on the wrist and obviously you know that guy with a Christian. And the other thing, the other thing, Pat, which is what you were saying, my dad,

my dad didn't shelter us from these death threats. I remember a story one time. My dad, he's an amazing, bold man. And my mom was an amazing, courageous woman. But my dad got a death threat. There was a letter left in front of our doorstep. And the letter, when he opened it, it said something along the lines of, stop preaching about Jesus or we're going to kill your family. It was along these slides. I can't remember exactly. My dad opened a letter and most parents would hide that from their kids. I was like maybe six or something. I can't remember. My dad gets all of us out in the living room, the whole family. My brothers, my sister, he gets us all out in the living room. And that note had a number on it. Had the Muslim guy's number that were

threatening. My dad gets in the living room and he puts that number in. He calls the Muslim man that were threatening to kill the whole family. And he puts her a speaker in front of all of us. He puts it in speaker and he answers. And he says something along this line, like from my memory, the conversation was, the spirit of the conversation was mockery. My dad called this Muslim God, is like, hey, you want me to stop preaching Jesus? And Muslim guys like, yeah, stop preaching Jesus. Well, what are you going to do to me and my family? We're going to kill your family. And my dad starts laughing in the living room. My dad starts laughing at him, mocking him, saying, you think I'm going to stop preaching Jesus because you're threatening me and

my wife and my children. And my dad's mocking him. I'm like to my dad, please stop. Like, I don't want to die. Who is your dad? I want to know who your dad is. Zoom in. That's him. That's him in the That's my dad. We can't, yeah, he's, is there a video of your dad speaking? He speaks, he preaches in Arabic. I translate for him. Yeah. So he's English is not too good.

But when he preaches, he's a bold line. He doesn't need a microphone. He, he's, he's a, and that's where we inherited our courage from my dad. We inherited our courage from him. He, we saw him preach in the face of death threats. We saw him preach and we're like, let's go. Let's go. What do your siblings do?

All of us are in ministry. Everybody. All of us. My brother, Andrew Cedra and his wife, Nolene, ministry. John and Razma, ministry, Martina and Alex, ministry, me and my wife, ministry. All of us have laid our lives down for the sake of the gospel. We said, like Isaiah, here we are, Lord, send us. So we're all united.

We're all speaking the truth about Islam, about the Bible. That's my brother. They're not twins, but they look personal. You know my brother? We look like twins. John with a long hair. John was a long hair. He's a good looking brother.

Me and Andrew, we look like the Arab. Now, when you lived in Egypt, remember the whole controversy with when they would say, you know, If Palestinians are so peaceful, why doesn't Egypt their neighbor take it in that wall? Have you been to that wall, the border wall? I haven't. So what is, what the, why don't, why doesn't Egypt welcome Palestinians? Egypt lately has been transforming their country because they want to invite more tourism in. So if you've noticed Egypt just built like hundreds of millions of dollars they spent on a museum.

And literally on their opener, an inauguration of the museum, they put a site. on the top with a drone show saying the country of peace. They know that no one, people don't want to go to Egypt because they know this terrorism there. You can search up the museum. Search the new museum in Egypt. One billion dollar project in Giza Pyramids just launched in 2025. And really they're trying to get more tourism in. And they know if they get the Gazans in, it's not going to do too well. So they're trying to, I guess, I'm praying that Egypt, Egypt softens its laws on Christianity. And I'm praying for God to save Egypt once again and for it to return to its former glory as a Christian country 1400 years ago. Now, going back to Australia and Australia, is it true that Australia is the biggest

country in the world when it comes on to LGBTQ community? And what is that part? Yeah, it's very gay. We're one of them. It's very gay. Our government has changed all our street signs. We have gay. We have something called World Pride. So everyone has Pride Month. We have World Pride where drag queens from all around the country come to Sydney to celebrate. Yeah. Congratulations. Thank you.

It's an honor. They brought in a law in April of this year called the conversion practices ban act and basically it entails that if a preacher or even a parent prays for their child or anybody who is homosexual, who comes to you. So if someone comes, we preach about this stuff all the time, someone comes up to us after the service,

says, hey, I would love for you to pray. I want to be set free from homosexuality. Would you pray for me? if we pray for them we could go to prison for up to five years and not just preachers. This is parents as well if a parent prays for their child who is struggling with the sin of homosexuality

they could go to prison for five years and so I mean us at Echo Church we were like oh what are we going to do they made prayer illegal which you know to me the first thing I thought when I heard this because Australia is becoming a very atheist nation in 1940 we were 96% Christian now we are 40%

and so it's becoming increasingly atheist it's a very cold nation People are very, very... Atheists? Yeah. Why is that increasing in atheists? The church is weak. Look at this, Pat, if we can look it up.

In the year 2000, the Harbour Bridge was lit up with the word eternity. If you're right, eternity, eternity, Harbor Bridge. Yep. And the year 2000, the Harbor Bridge on New Year's Eve was lit up with the word eternity. On New Year's Eve, we counted three, two, one, fireworks. Everybody were thinking about eternity, about God. We were God fearing. Go now to 2023.

Go to 2023, Harbor Bridge, Pride flag or gay LGBTQ colors. The Harbor Bridge lit up with a rainbow flag. So we went from a Christian country to a secular country, an LGBTQ country. And this is what people don't understand listening to me. They might think, what's wrong? What's wrong with LGBT? Another preacher, I come from a theological perspective and a biblical perspective. The Bible says that pride comes before destruction.

The verse that says pride comes before destruction. What does that mean? It means when someone is prideful, destruction is coming their way. When a country is prideful, destruction is coming their way. In the Bible, the story of King Nebuchadnezzar, the Bible says he had the greatest nation, Babylon, and he walked out on his balcony. And he walked out on his balcony and looked at his kingdom and empire and power.

The Bible says that he looked and said, look at the power of my hands. Look at the wealth that my hand has created. And the Bible says, in that moment when his heart became prideful, God turned him into an animal. That man, King Nebuchadnezzar, King Nebuchadnezzar began to. behave like an animal. He began to go in the wilderness and crawl like an animal. He began to grow hands like an animal. And what God was saying is when you reject me, when you accept pride in your country, I will reject you. And sadly, when you see it now prophetically, Nebuchadnezzar had pride, he acted like an animal. What's you, what are we saying now? Pride is in our countries. We have

a bunch of fairies. We have a bunch of people. We have a bunch of people acting like dogs, acting like cats in the street. Have you seen those photos of girlfriends with their boyfriend on leashes? This is really, this is Romans 1. Romans 1 says, Romans 1, chapter 1 says, because they reject the truth, because they suppress the truth, because they did not acknowledge God as king, the Bible says God handed them over to three things. And this is prophetic. For everyone listening, they might not be Christian. This is prophetic. It says, because they suppress the truth. What's the truth? It's not the Quran. It's the Bible. The Bible is the truth. When you suppress it, America removed the Bible from their high schools. They removed the Ten Commandments. They removed prayer from schools.

Biden had dry queens in the White House. Biden removed preachers from the White House. Thank God for Donald Trump who got rid of that and has pastors praying for him in the White House now. But when you do that, Romans 1 says God will punish you in three ways. Number one, God will hand you over to sexual perversion. That's a punishment. Number one. Sexual perversion. You're seeing it now with sexual perverted country, pornography and lust and all these things. rising. Number two, God would hand them over to unnatural relationships, unnatural relations. And this is what you see. Romans 1 says, men laying with men and women laying with women. That's all the way in Romans 1, God prophesize it. And number three, the punishment of Romans 1, he says, oh, God will

hand them over to a debased mind, an insane mind, a crazy mind. And that's what you're seeing now. When you reject the truth, that's what you get. And until America and Australia and the West, bring the Bible back in schools, bring the Ten Commandments back, bring Jesus back. And in the public square your country is going to go more crazy yeah we need jesus back in the country and our job like as preachers pastors is to sniff the devil while he's still far away and what we've seen prophetically is if you adopt this logic of love is love if i feel love towards what god has said is out of bounds and is immoral so long as i feel love so long as it's my orientation it makes what god has deemed immoral it makes it okay this is a very very slippery slope all the way

down to all forms of wickedness and degeneracy. Because what about the 50-year-old man who feels love towards the child? It's the same premises. It's the same. It doesn't matter what the Bible says. It doesn't matter what God says is moral and immoral. It doesn't matter that God created marriage, therefore only God gets to define marriage. It doesn't matter what the Bible says. It doesn't matter what God says. So long as I feel love towards that which God deemed immoral, it makes it okay, it justifies it. That same premise can be used to justify anything. It's a can of worms. you can justify pedophilia, you can justify necrophilia. It's a can of worms, and people might say, well, that's extreme.

Well, if you cross the first bridge, the second is inevitable because the second is based on the same premises as the first, and you're already seeing it in culture. People always make the mistake of thinking that morality is common sense. Just read history. For a long time, people thought that it was totally okay, that slavery was totally okay, to see a group of people as subservant,

to see a group of people as not deemed worthy of human dignity and basic, you know, this is, to believe that, to believe that morality is common sense, to believe that we're all, that's not true. And so we're already starting to see, we talk about this, you know, it's not huge in our culture now, this pedophilia, but we're already seeing it. Have you seen how they've changed, it's now no longer called pedophile, they're trying to change the language. It always starts with semantics.

Now they're trying to call it minor attracted persons. And so as pastors, our job is, 50 years ago, people told pastors, stop preaching about homosexuality, stop talking about it. This kind of, you know, this kind of matter shouldn't be spoken about in churches. Well, look where we are today. Young people are cutting their body parts. Young people are so confused. Young people are now the victims of preachers, not preaching. And I believe if we don't preach now about minor attracted persons and the demonic ideology that as Islam begins to rise, people will say, well, age is just a number. If we don't preach about this now, prophetically, it will come into our culture. So here's a question now. You know, Randy Fine, I don't know if you guys know who

Randy Fine is. If you don't, he is somebody who was a politician in America. Rob, if you want to pull this up, he's a U.S. representative. He tweeted something today. And, you know, not today. Maybe it was yesterday. And it was around what the solution is with Muslims. Okay. What should America do? Now, this guy is going, you know, some are calling the extreme. Some people are saying, I actually agree with what he's saying. Rob, I don't know if you have the tweet or not. He said, a Muslim immigrant burning Holocaust survivor alive in Colorado wasn't enough. A Muslim immigrant executing National Guardsman in Washington, D.C. wasn't enough. Rob, if it's one of the tweets from three days, there you go.

Muslim immigrants attacking and killing non-Muslims in Australia wasn't enough. 9-11 was enough. October 7 was enough. Now the FBI announced they have arrested five Muslim terrorists who were planning Muslim terror attacks on New Year's Eve in Los Angeles and New Orleans. This has to stop. Diversity is not our string. city has become suicidal. It is time for Muslim travel ban, radical deportation of all mainstream

Muslim legal and illegal and legal and illegal. And citizenship revocations, wherever possible mainstream Muslim have declared war on us. The least we can do is kick them the hell out of America. Do you agree? Look, this is a tough one. This is a very tough one because it seems Islamophobic. It seems racist. And I think two things. Number one, from the top, we've got to stop the immigration. We're really going to fix that problem. And Donald Trump is really doing great with that. He just put a pause on 10 countries or maybe more, especially from the Middle East. So that's very, very important. Let's at least put a pause on it so we can figure out what's actually happening. And Donald Trump did say that a few

years ago. He said, let's put a pause on Muslim immigration to figure out what's happening. And if they don't do that, you're going to end up like the UK. The UK kept going and going and going and they're like, how long can we play this game? How long can we play this immigration game? And they said, Let's give it another year. Let's give it another year. And now they've committed suicide. Now the rape cases is high. Now the terrorist attacks are high. And it's conquered. The UK, the Europe, where revivals came, John Wesley, Charles Wesley, all the revivalists, most revivalists that started in Europe are now dead because we allowed immigration in without assimilation. And this is what I think, the people on the floor here, they need to understand every immigrant in this country. They got to understand, I think if you burn the American flag, you are no longer allowed in this country. It might sound extreme, but if you burn an American flag, you're an enemy of America. If you shot death to America, you're an enemy to America. If you hate the Constitution and Muslims hate the Constitution, Muslims hate the Constitution. The whole foundation and cornerstone of the West is freedom.

We believe in freedom. What is freedom? We believe in freedom of religion. Muslims don't believe in freedom of religion. They believe you either submit to Allah or you die or pay Jaze attacks. We believe in freedom of speech. Do Muslims believe in freedom of speech? No, they don't. If you speak against Muhammad, in fact, if the version of the Quran, it says if you critique the prophet Muhammad, you get killed. They don't believe in freedom of speech. They don't believe in freedom to protest. In Hamas after the ceasefire,

Hamas found Palestinians that protested against them. What did they do? They shot them dead. There's no freedom. Islam is incompatible with the West. And that statement that he's saying, it might sound racist and Islamophobic, but I kind of get the direction he's talking about because Raymond I'm not sure if you've heard about him. Raymond Ibrahim is a historian, amazing historian, Islamic historian. And he said a quote, he said, he said Muslim immigration,

it's like bringing a lion and putting him in a cage with lambs. Islamic immigration is like bringing a lion and putting them in a cage with lambs. And all of a sudden, one lion turns on a lambs and kills a hundred lambs. And we blame the lion. Well, it's not the lion's fault. The lion is behaving like a lion.

The lion is always meant to have enemies The lion has always been the king of the jungle The lion has always been a ferocious animal And he kills for a living And this is a thing, lions will always do what lions do And same as Muslims. Muslims will always do what Muslims do And when you bring one Muslim in the West

They will do what they do best They will hate the infidel They would destroy the country They will bring Sharia law They will bring Sharia law And they want it in Michigan They want it in Texas with Epic City So I think we need to be

Paul's mass migration and the Muslims in this country need to feel the fear of the government. They need to feel the fear of God and back off and understand this is the Christian country. Back off from the court of prayer in Michigan. Back off from, there's freedom of religion, but do it in your mosque. Go in your mosque, preach whatever you want to preach, and we're going to monitor you because they are preaching hate. We really do go to monitor the mosque. But they've got to really back off.

The Muslims in this country got to be humble enough to understand. A Christian country allowed you here. And I can already hear, like, the Christian audience being like, wow, you call yourself pastors. That's not very Christ-like of you. That's not very loving of you to say, you know, we have to, you know, bring stricter immigration laws. Actually, this is biblical. Deuteronomy 28, this is actually God's warning to the people of God. Deuteronomy 28, God says to the people because you have, yeah,

Deuteronomy 28, 43 to 45, God is warning the people because you do not obey, because you've disobeyed me and you've forsaken my law. it'll come up with you yeah judaeronomy is a bit I'll just spell you probably have to search juda romey there it is 28 yep that's the one

43 if you scroll down Rob you spell doodromy he typed in dude dude it's alright dude romney womanology yeah that's it woman

woman or army it's like you know my my dude romney is uh you really put on the spot it's not fair it's a tough job i guess this is our environment guys i can't even spell geron if you can't take that a year this is this is our environment it happens to all of us so yeah so this was god's warning to the people of god he said the foreigners who reside among you will rise above you higher and higher but you will sink lower and lower they will lend to you but you will not be able to lend to them so they will financially outrun you

they will out gain you they will be the head you will be the tail all these curses will come on you disaster will come in you because you did not obey the Lord your God and observe his commands and decrees. And this is exactly what is happening in America. We have been like Americans, people have been saying we don't want the Bible to be the basis of our moral framework for the civilization. Get your, get your religious views. Christians keep your views to yourself. You know your pro-life coming from the Bible. We don't want to hear about it. Keep your Bible to yourself. The truth is people need to ask themselves in America. They need to ask, what do you want? to be as the framework, moral framework for the civilization. What do you want? Because the question

is never, will morality be legislated? Because that's what laws are. Laws always legislate morality. People say you can't legislate morality. That's exactly what you should legislate. Yeah. And you're making a good point because I think I read a book that was called the Age of Intolerance. I think it was the name of the book by pastor. Because for the longest time, I would pray for four things. Courage, wisdom, tolerance under God, give me four things. things. Courage, wisdom, tolerance, understanding. I no longer pray for tolerance. I stopped praying for tolerance in 2020. And I told my kids, we don't pray for tolerance anymore. It's not going to pray for intolerance. We're not praying for tolerance either because it is

maybe it's not this. It was a different one. Age of Rob, can you type an age of tolerance? It's a pastor that wrote the book, maybe not intolerance, but tolerance. Christian book, is that the one a new one? I don't know which one it is, but it was a Christian pastor that I wrote this book. I'll find to send it to you. So here's the other thing I want to ask you about. So Paris just announced, I don't know if you saw this or not, their annual New Year's Eve concert that they do. Every year, this is a massive event that they hold in Shanzale,

they're canceling it. Then when you read a little bit further, Italy, their major public New Year events have reportedly been canceled or restricted for 2025. due to safety and crowd reasons. What's safety and crowd reasons? Japan, Tokyo, same thing. Serbia, same thing.

A bunch of different places are worried about what's going to be happening on New Year's Eve. What is causing that? Islam robs the joy out of the country. Islam robs joy. Islam robs the peace out of the country. We call Jesus the Prince of Peace.

Christian countries are meant to have peace in it. We're meant to celebrate New Year's Eve together without worrying, am I going to get bombed? And this is Jesus, a prince of peace. And what fascinates me, Pat, is Muslims, every time they say Muhammad, they say, may peace be upon him. Have you noticed, they can't say Muhammad without saying, Muhammad may peace be upon him. The problem is every time Muhammad goes somewhere, there's never peace. Every time Muhammad goes, News Eve, canceled, Christmas tree burnt in London, Christmas tree burnt.

In the UK, they find a baby Jesus beheaded by a Muslim. Everywhere they go, they claim Muhammad the Prince of Peace. I'm like, and actually they say Muhammad, may peace be upon him. I want to change it. I want to change it, Pat, to not Muhammad, may peace be upon him. I want to change it to Muhammad, may the police be upon him. Everywhere this guy goes, everywhere he goes, there is terrorist attacks. We can't enjoy New Year's Eve.

As Christians now, we can't enjoy Christmas. You know Christmas, we're about to have a Christmas production at our home church, and Echo Church, Sydney, Australia. We're about to have a Christmas production. We have to buy German shepherds. We have to call the, we can't have guns We can't have guns To buy German Shepherds

How do I how do we protect our people We have our security thing Can you hire cops to be outside the place We're gonna try We're gonna try We're gonna try And I'm like, I'm like Why do I have to think about that on Christmas

The birth of my Lord Jesus Christ The most joyous season of the year I have to think about you Hey guys Millison Sedra here If you have any questions On Christianity on Jesus, the Bible Christians getting involved In politics

I would love to be there, answer your questions. I'd love to hear from you. And please just reach out to me on my next. Like, you made it all about you. I have to worry if you're going to bomb my church. And they're saying, by the way, the Muslims are saying there's many more terrorist attacks to come. So who know?

I might be messaging you in a few weeks saying, hey, they attacked our church. And we might need you. I don't know what they're going to do. New Year's Eve, Christmas. Why are we living like this? Like, why are we doing this? And the problem, we keep blaming the Muslims.

It's our fault. Why are we living like that? why we're living in fear, let's bring Jesus back, the Prince of Peace, and this is, by the way, Christmas, the whole Christmas message and prophecy is this, for unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and this is what he says, and he shall be called wonderful counselor, mighty God, everlasting father, and the last one, Prince of Peace. Christmas is meant to be a peaceful season, but it's not because of Islam. to you. I mean, we've had a lot of different folks. We did a Muslim debate one time here. Two Muslims are sitting on this side, two Christians sitting on this side. They're going back and forth. They got heated. And it was a brother Rashid was here. Another fellow named Daniel, Jacob. And we had one other gentleman, Robert Spencer, that was here as well. And it went back and forth. Very heated. It was respectful, but it was very heated. Back and forth, back and forth. And then we had Sam, Shamanan, and he did a great job, and then they came back. So for you, how often do you guys debate Muslims? How often are you, is it a regular thing that you're going and debating other Muslims? I try.

I try to debate Muslims. They never want to talk. All they want to do is violence. All they want to do. I was in the street one time in the city in Sydney. I was in the street and me and me and really were walking. I happened to bump in a guy and I end up talking to him about Jesus. And the guys liked to me, why should I follow Jesus, not Muhammad?

and not Allah, not Islam, what makes you think Christianity is a religion? And I start to explain to him the difference between Christianity, Islam, Jesus versus Muhammad and a Muslim security guard across the street comes literally, Millie was there, he comes, he comes staunching me, angry, crossing the street, leaving his shift, coming, and he's angry.

He's like, what did you say about my prophet Muhammad? What did you talk about my brother? And I'm like to him, relax, relax, can we talk, can we debate, can we use some intellect here? Can you use your mouth instead of your fists and sword? and he doesn't want to talk so in Australia I've tried to debate these guys I've tried to talk to them they don't want to

and the reason is there's no intellect behind it we can fry a Muslim like like deep fry him intellectually the fact that they believe in underage marriage the fact that they believe a man can beat his wife up the fact that they believe you know that the Muhammad flew on a donkey to Jerusalem

this just weird stuff historically historically stupid Muhammad saw an angel and he thought he was the it just it doesn't make sense The whole Islam thing doesn't make sense. So they don't want to debate. And that's the thing about Islam.

Someone said before, the sword of Muhammad hangs over the head of the preacher. This is really the picture. The sword of Muhammad hangs over the head of the preacher. You talk about Muhammad, I'll come after you. And that's, we're really putting our life in danger right now. Muslims listening, they're really going to try. They're really going to try to come after us.

And I try to talk to them and their sword is picked up. Same as the left, right? They couldn't speak up to Charlie Kirk. Kirk, the martyr, the man of God, the hero, the courageous man. All he did was debate with the left. All he did with debate. All he said was, hey, let's talk. This is the marketplace of ideas.

Let's debate ideas. And we as Christians believe in the marketplace of ideas. But the left don't and Muslims don't. The left, when they can't debate you, they shoot you. That's what they did to Charlie Kirk. Cowards, they're cowards and they're unintellectual. They have no reason or fact. Same as the Muslims.

When they don't know what to do, they just kill you. They just come after you. Both left and Muslims can't debate. a Christian. Can the two coexist? Islam and Christianity? It is incompatible with the West. Islam is incompatible with the West. Then how do you disagree with Randy finding what he's saying? Randy, if it's the fellow that tweeted this. That's what I'm saying. I don't disagree with. I'm not sure about the application. What way, what process. I'm going to do it over 10 years. I were going to do it over 20 years. His idea is 100% right. Islam is incompatible with the West. What out of Islam is compatible with. with us. The child marriage, like Muhammad marrying a six-year-old and raping her and sleeping

with her at nine? Like, you know- What about the treatment of women? Like, they, it's mesmerizing to me with the whole Zaharan Mamdani. You see, jump on social media and there's a bunch of, you know, young, 20-year-old girls being like, oh, Sharia law, Zaharan Mamdani, you can't wait to vote him in, can't wait for Sharia law. You have a bunch of feminists that are pro-Islam. It's the most oxymoronic, they're walking contradictions. Because I'm like, do you know how women are treated under Islam? Did you know that the Quran, it commands Muslim men to, if they even fear disobedience from their wives, they are commanded to beat her. It's interesting that Aisha, it's recorded in the Hadith, Aisha saw a woman

who had been beaten so badly that her skin was green. And Aisha, Aisha, the favorite wife of Muhammad, she herself said, why is it, she said this to Muhammad, she said, why is it that the women of our faith are treated worse than any other woman on the earth? She said, their skin. is greener than their clothes. And you know what happened? What Muhammad did? He punishes the woman for being a bad wife. Many women, these feminists that are pro-Isom, I'm like, did you know that in Muslim countries that there has to be four male witnesses, not four witnesses, four male witnesses if a woman

is accusing a man of rape? So there has to be four male witnesses, which there is a study that came out. What do you mean four male witnesses? Four male witnesses to the rape in order to provide evidence. And so she says he raped me. Yeah. She has to have four witnesses that witnessed the men. Not witnesses, male witnesses.

Male witnesses that witnessed her being raped by that one man. Yes. Can you verify that? So there was... That's under Sharia law. The requirement for four male witnesses in Islamic law applies to consensual extramarital sex, not to the non-consensual crime of rape. Rape is considered a severe crime in Islam.

And if it's proof, there's not necessarily... Now, a study came out that as many of half of women who go to court and say they've been raped in Pakistan, half of these women, not only do they not get justice, they get charged with adultery. They themselves get charged with adultery. So they can say that all they want. Women are the most oppressed people in Islam. To you, me too, movement, to you feminists, I'm like, you really want Sharia law? Your witness is worth half that of a man's.

And Mohammed said in the Hadith, it says it's because of the deficiency of the woman's mind. So this is just oxymoronic. They're a walking contradiction. Islam, by the way, oppresses women. It is the most, the people I feel sorry for in Islam are not the men. They're jihadis. I care about the woman. The woman, I feel, my heart breaks for them. There's some women obviously who really send their kids to bomb themselves. But my heart breaks for the woman.

Women in Islam, they have to cover themselves. It is oppression. Why? They tempt the men. In Afghanistan, you can look it up in 2023. In Afghanistan, they passed a law. They passed the law. That woman, the men said to the government, hey, I know the woman is covering her head. She's still tempting me.

Can you cover her face? So they cover their face. The Taliban. Then the Taliban in 2023. 2023, the Taliban, the men go up to the government and say, hey, the woman is still tempting us. How are they tempting you? Their head is covered and their face is covered. What is tempting you now?

Her hijab. No, no. Her voice is tempting me. Her voice. So in 2023, the Taliban passed a law. Women are no longer allowed to sing. speak or laugh in public. Look it up.

Afghanistan? You got to be kidding me. As of 2020, the Taliban has banned women from singing, speaking loudly, or laughing in public. These restrictions are part of a broader set of vice and virtual laws

that aim to erase women from public life. Why? Because it tempts me. You're an animal. You are an animal. It's like an animalistic culture. I have a dog at home. I have a dog at home.

And when I want to leave my food on the table, I'll leave my food on the table. I'll leave my food on the table. Can I leave it overnight? She tells me no. I'm like, why? She can't control herself. I'm like, why? She says a dog will get it. She'll eat her. I'm like, tell the dog to control himself. Tell her that little chihuahua, tell her to control herself. She says she can't control himself. She's an animal.

When she sees a chicken, she has to eat that chicken. And it's kind of same as Islam. Islam is an animalistic culture. The man can't control himself so he covers her head. He still can't control himself. So he covers his face. He still can't control himself. So they tell us, shut up, stop speaking, stop singing, stop laughing.

What's next? You want to just kill the woman? You want to just get rid of the woman? Like, you may as well do that. And this is the beauty of Jesus Christ. What does Jesus say? He says, if you look at a woman with lust, you have already committed adultery in your heart. Jesus says, turn the other way.

Don't look at a woman with lust. Jesus says, we must honor a woman. In Christianity, we view women is made in the image of God. Every woman I see, whether Christian, Muslim, atheist, or a prostitute. If I see a prostitute in the street naked, I would turn my eyes the other way. Why? She was made in the image of God. God loves that woman.

God honors that woman. I don't honor her because she honors herself. I honor her because God loves her. I honor. That's a doctrine of Amago Day. Imago Day, the Latin phrase for image of God. Whether you like it or not, every woman was created in the image of God. Whether on a porn site, on Onlyfant, she was created in the image of God.

And that's the beauty of Jesus Christ. He doesn't blame the woman. He blames the man. And rape cases, by the way, there was a Muslim imam that was his name. Uh, Zakir something. He's this crazy Muslim Imam. He justifies. If you look up. Yeah, let's look him up. If you look up. Yeah, let's give him that. If you look up Indian, Indian, Indian Islam. Um, right, Zakir something. That's what it is. It's secure. Images. Go image. Yeah, that's him. Zakir Nike. If you look up. Justifies. A girl asks, a young girl asks him what happens to woman. Is that what you're talking about? Or no. Justifying rape. Type his name rap and put it on YouTube. Put it in YouTube and say Justified Rape. Lots of videos.

What does he say about Justifying Rape? He says you have to look at what the woman was wearing. If she's dressing immodestly, then who's to blame? Then the woman is to blame because she's not being following a lot. It's on my Instagram actually. Oh, there it is. Yeah, that's the one. Hypothetically, if he rapes and he murders a girl,

and if the court of law in this country or in this world cannot prove him wrong and he goes caught free. Later on, he realizes, his mistake and he truly repents and he knows that Allah is Rahman Rahim and if you truly depend Allah will forgive his question is then will that be justice to the girl who has been raped and killed now first I have to understand that Allah says in the Quran in Suribulq it is Allah who has created death and life to test which of you wouldn't be this life is a test for the earth we have been tested so Allah

test different people in different ways there are five criteria required for forgiveness number one is you admit what you have done is wrong number two see to it that you stop it immediately number three see what you don't do it again number fourth is that you ask forgiveness from Allah's Mahana. If all these criteria are fulfilled, inshallah, I'll forgive me. Even if you have committed a major sin, and if you have committed murder, it's a major sin. But if you truly repent, Allah, I'll forgive.

As we know, Allah is there manorri. Four more. Go to my Instagram. Go to my Instagram. Go to Martin Cedra Instagram. That's the guy, but so. He basically puts it on what she was wearing. Go down, down, down, down, a little bit more.

Oh, this guy's crazy. He is crazy. He's crazy. He's huge, by the way. He feels stadiums, this man. Go down. He's a very famous imam. Go down.

Down more. Down a little bit more. A little bit more. Nearly there. Nearly there. That's it. On the left, bottom, left there. Yeah.

No. Up. Right. Right one. Right one. No, no. Yeah, right. Yeah, that one.

Just a modesty. She's dressed up. That's important. Which people get excited and the rape is done. Who's to blame? It's a little to blame. If she was obscene close. Because of which they're able to pay them.

She's responsible. For the girl who she's following the advice of Al-Sumana al-Tal by wearing appropriate clothes or not, if she was not, then she's to blame to attract the men. Muslim men can't control their eyes so they cover the woman's head. This is crazy. This is unbelievable. In Islam, by the way, you know in Islam, they're allowed to have non-Muslim sex slaves. So they can't have a sex slave that's a Muslim.

But if that's what your right-hand possesses, right? You can sleep with your wife or what you're right hand possesses. You're allowed to have a non-Muslim sex slave. Why? The Quran calls non-Muslims apes and pigs. So Hitler, Hitler called the Jews rats, right? Hitler put propaganda up all across the walls that the Jews are rats. So he dehumanized the Jews in the nation's eyes.

So when they went to kill the Jews, it was easier to kill the Jews. Why? The Jews are not humans, they're rats. He dehumanized them, same as Muhammad. Muhammad dehumanizes infidels, Christians, Jews, atheists. He calls us not rats, he's a bit nicer, I'm an ape and a pig. And as an ape and a pig, what's wrong with killing him? As an ape and a pig, what's wrong with raping them?

As an ape and a pig, what's wrong with beheading that guy? What's wrong with stabbing Bishop Maramari? What's wrong with killing 15 Jews? What's wrong with terror attacks? They're apes and pigs. We've got to kill them anyway. And that's why October 7th was very justified for them. October 7th, there was a Muslim man who literally killed 10 Jews and he calls his mom.

There was a WhatsApp video, audio. He calls his dad and mom and says, dad, mom, I killed 10 Jews. Praise God. Allah, Allah, al-Aqbar. And they're praising him. They're like, good job, son. You did amazing. I'm like, wow.

This is like to kill an infantile's like the greatest heroic thing to do. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I understand, I'll translate, don't worry. It's for the majority of Arab speakers here. Okay, this is a Palestinian, not affiliated with Hamas, according to what he says, just a citizen. And he's saying, Dad, Allah Akbar, I call, I just killed 10 Jews.

I have the blood on my hand. I stole her phone. I'm speaking with you from her phone. And the parents celebrate. The parents say, well done in Arabic. Yeah. Yeah. I've never seen this.

Ken. Photos, he's sending photos. All right. Islam. Islam. Islam for everyone listening. Hello. Islam.

For everyone listening. Can you go to the chat, Rob, to see if anybody question Grog to see what date this is? Go a little bit lower. I'm sure somebody did Grog. This is, I'm older than your state. Keep going down. See if you find Grock if anybody asked. Uh, pa-p-p-pap-papa.

There's no Grock what it says. Yeah. You keep doing it. You keep doing it and look for it. But to me, that's nasty on what they celebrate and how they view it. But, you know, the other side will come and say, well, look at the stuff that Netanyahu. Look what Bibi is doing. Look what they're doing right now.

And they allow this. If they're so great, why they'll let it open up? Anyways, all these conversations, these debates, we've seen plenty of them that has taken place. The reality of it is if they're not compatible, just stay in your country. Yeah. Don't leave it. Yeah. And this is what the West need to understand about Islam.

Islam is not a religion. It's a political movement. They are here to establish Sharia law. In fact, in the first hundred years after Muhammad's death, they had conquered 50 to 60 percent of the Christian world. Islam is not a religion. They are expansive. The two religions that are expansive, Pat, is not Hinduism. It's not Judaism.

The two religions that are expansive is Christianity and Islam. And Christianity, we're expansive. We want to preach to the whole world. Jesus before he ascended to heaven. he said go into all the world preach the gospel make disciples and baptize them we want to save people the second religion that's expansive is Islam but their way of expansion is not like us it's not baptized disciple and and and preach the truth their way of of of of expansion is to establish a real law they go in countries that are christians and not and that's why by the way if you ever notice all the

muslim immigrants they never moved to a muslim country there's 54 Muslim states but for some reason no Muslim immigrants ever moved there they always moved to the west why the west Christian. I got to take that country. I got to conquer that country. And that's what they want. They want Sharia law. And for all my listeners, not knowing what Sharia law is, Sharia law is simply the Islamic divine law. You can view it that way. Sharia law is their Islamic divine law. If you want to view it, we have our 10 commandments. They have their Sharia law. And under Sharia law, when people say, I love Sharia law or maybe let's bring Sharia law to Texas. Let's bring Sharia law to Michigan. How beautiful Shari law. Under Sharia law, apostates are killed. If you leave Islam, you die.

Under Sharia law, homosexuals are thrown of buildings Under Sharia law, trans are stone to death Under Sharia law, husbands can beat their wives up Under Sharia law, you can marry a six-year-old Under Sharia law, you will die if you critique or speak against Muhammad. That is Sharia. Under Sharia law, gamblers and drinkers are whipped.

Under Sharia law, adulteries are killed. That's Sharia law. The freedom of speech. That's Sharia, you really want Shariah, no, I don't want Shirelo. I would prefer Jesus Christ. And this is a thing I always tell people, let's compare Jesus verse Muhammad. Let's compare Muhammad verse Jesus for a second.

Muhammad said, kill the infidel. Jesus said, love your enemies. Muhammad before he died said, may Allah curse the Jews and the Christians. Jesus before he died said, Father, forgive them, for they don't know what they do. Muhammad started 84 raids and wars in his lifetime. Jesus didn't start any wars in his lifetime. Muhammad had 11 women, 11 wives and raped slaves. Jesus honored women and covered them.

Muhammad married a 6-year-old slept with her at 9. Jesus protected children. He said, let the young children come unto me. Muhammad, the woman caught an adultery, stoned her to death. What did Jesus do with the woman called an adultery? He said, neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more. Muhammad is completely different to Jesus. Muhammad tells men and husbands that you can beat your wife up. What does Jesus say in Ephesians 5?

Husbands love your wives as Christ love the church. Jesus versus Muhammad, just compare them for a moment. Compare the founder of Christianity versus the founder of Islam. and you decide what religion you want to follow. And for all my atheists, you've got to pick. You've got to really pick. The more evil you see, the more you realize, if evil exists, good must exist. If the devil exists, there must be a God out there.

There must be good out there. And the question is, who is it? And I think the greatest litmus test to know what standard immorality do you want as the basis of the nation. The litmus test is very simple, as you said, what country do you don't want to live in? If you want an atheist, if you want an atheistic standard immorality, okay, go to China. like go to north korea if that's if if you think this idea of of humanity that were just cosmic accidents and there's no inherent value because we're a bunch of cosmic accidents we weren't created by a divine creator we weren't created by him then okay go to these countries that believe that

where we see millions of people that died under Stalin under mal okay go live there if you truly like it's so strange to me seeing christians in in popular podcasts and media dancing with sharia law I'm like, okay, this is a litmus test. If you truly want to sympathize with Sharia law and you think it's going to be better as the basis of morality for the nation, better than Christianity, then go, live under Sharia law. But you don't want to live there.

And you see Muslims all the time. They get interviewed in America. I see so many videos of people on the street asking them, do you want Sharia law in America? They're like, yes. Well, do you want to move to Afghanistan? Do you want to go back? No.

They want to live in America. Why? It's not because of the beaches. You don't come to America because of the resources and because you come here. because it's blessed by God and it has a foundation of Christianity. That's why it's blessed. It's freedom.

It's free. And so to all the atheists, for example, like we have, you know, a lot of people say, well, why can't we just have secularism? Why not secularism where everybody gets to, moral relativism? You get to decide what is moral. You can think it's okay to murder babies and I can think that that's murder. You can think abortion is health care. I can think it's murder.

Why not that? Secularism is not a standard of morality. It's the absence of a standard of morality. It leaves a moral vacuum. And when we have that, which is, what we're seeing, and I believe that's why we're seeing Islam rise in the nation of America, is because we've had a moral vacuum where we've thrown the Bible out of politics. We've said, okay, let's just moral relativism.

Everybody can decide, well, that leaves a moral vacuum, and Islam will happily take the place. And Christians have been saying, oh, we won't get involved in politics. That's why you've got Zohran Mamdani. The Muslims are very happy to get involved in politics. I think that's where we could finish this podcast, because that's the choice. The audience got to make. they got to decide what direction they want to go to and you know there's a lot of uh guys out there that are strong you know apologetics or you know they're going out there you know non-denominational

they're preaching you know uh the bible and the ward but very few power couples you guys are a power couple oh we very impressive thank you for you oh i appreciate it you you know it's it's I knew you and I saw the stuff you were doing. You're very impressive. Thank you. And you want to have seven kids. That's amazing. Yeah.

We're going to try. We have to beat the Muslims. We're going to. I'll give you the final words you want to say before we wrap up. Oh, Pat, I want one of the greatest threats in America right now. And this is a weird way to end. But babies is there is what they call Muslims call it the jihad of babies. and I was listening to a Muslim Imam

He said Islam will conquer the West Through one way One of the ways was through the womb of the woman Islam will conquer the West Through the womb of the woman The womb of the West versus the womb of the Middle East The womb of the church versus the womb of the mosque The womb of the people of the cross

Versus the womb of the people of the crescent And Christianity is at 2.7 billion Christians So we're the biggest religion in the world Islam's at 1.8 billion Muslims So they're not bigger than us But Islam is the fastest growing religion And they're not growing by conversions. They're growing by procreation.

While the West, we're aborting our babies. American murders aborts one million babies every single year. We kill one million babies in a woman. We're abhorting our babies. Number two, while the West is promoting feminism, the feminist movement is telling young women you're an entrepreneur, you don't need to have any babies, have one babies. You're too busy.

You've got a career. Don't have babies. I've got the feminism movement telling the woman don't have babies. And number three, we've got the LGBTQ ideologies, telling men that men can sleep with me. men and we know that Adam and Steve can't have babies. Right? It's only Adam and Eve can have babies. Scientific. So scientifically. So we're

doing all that. And meanwhile, what are the Muslims doing? They're having four to five babies. And Muhammad commands the men that they can have two, three or four wives. So there are some Muslim men in the UK that have three, four wives. And obviously they're getting well focused. Nobody knows about it. And it's not

legal. They have three, four wives. And with every wife, they have three to four kids. So you end up now with it with, we're in a very bad place. The West is not even at replacement rate. We're not even replacing. To replace yourself, you need to have more than two babies. So we end up with one or two babies. What do the Muslims have? They end up with four to five babies. And if the man marries four women, you do the math. That's 16 to 20 babies per Muslim family. So, and one of the first commandments in Genesis was be fruitful and multiply. And that's

why me and Millie were like, hey, if God willing, we're going to have seven babies. I hope so. And make a preachers. Well, keep at it. Keep at it. It's been a pleasure having you guys on. what a great story and the time of it, the fact that this happened in Australia and you guys are here flying in and I know you guys doing a bunch of other things while you're here as well. Keep at it. So impressive watching you guys. I am sure we're going to have you guys on many, many more times. Oh, that'll be amazing. It was an honor. Thank you. And where can people find you guys? Where would you like people to do? Yeah, Instagram at Martin Cedra or our websites and yeah, we love America and we're praying for America to remain Christian.

Right. Please put both of them below so the audience can go follow this wonderful couple. And I think you're speaking at Turning Point USA, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be fantastic. Amen. Take care of guys. Thank you, Pat.

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