PBD Podcast - Baltimore Bridge Collapse, Diddy Raided & Candace Owens Daily Wire Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 384

Starting point is 00:00:00 Wow. Wow. Good morning. Good morning. Depending on where you are while you're watching this. Anyways, I feel like we haven't done a podcast to cover some of these stories. I feel like we've had two weeks worth of stories over the weekend. There's a lot of weird things going on.

Starting point is 00:00:38 There's a bridge that just went down in Baltimore early this morning, I think 1.30 in the morning. P Diddy is having a rough last couple days, man. And 50 Cent's been having a lot of good times on Instagram the last couple days. If you want to entertain yourself, go to 50's Instagram account and just read his commentary while he's posting. I will talk about what happened with Diddy. Candice Owens, people are asking, Pat, do you have any thoughts after Candice Owens and Daily Wire, you know, they broke up.

Starting point is 00:01:06 It didn't, whether it's fired, stepped away, agreement. What are your thoughts on that? I haven't commented on it because I think we had Rubin on Thursday and then it happened the next day. And we'll comment on that as well. Aside from that, we have a few other things that's going on. Trump truth social valuation, increasing his net worth potentially $3.4 billion with a $3 billion windfall to him. We got some details on that.

Starting point is 00:01:35 The civil fraud fine decreased from 450. We'll cover that as well. I think one, anyways, we'll cover the numbers so you know what happened here with Trump and then compare it to some other people in the past on what kind of bill they had. Some people had actually ripped people off, like $50 billion worth of ripping off. A guy from New York, how much his bond was, this guy named Madoff, or another guy named SPF, what was his with all the billions of dollars that he flat out based on all the reports that we read stole from

Starting point is 00:02:05 investors and others. What kind of a bill did he have? We'll cover that. Aside from that, Frank Luntz points into the camera with direct warning for Letitia James. If she sees Trump's assets, calls it pathetic. You have to see when he's saying this why he's saying this. Ronna McDaniel finally comes out after getting a job at NBC and she says that the 2020 election was won by Biden fair and square. Okay? That's called a deep state swamp. She's a swamp creature. And by the way,

Starting point is 00:02:44 shout out to Vivek for coming out flat out and calling it out in the open. For some of you that are getting ready for this weekend, just want to let you guys know, guys, Christ is King. And I'm saying it with my friend here. We have an Old Testament, New Testament camp. He is the king. By the way, obviously, that's... That's anti-Semitic right now.

Starting point is 00:03:03 I don't know if Adam, you all right? It is. We'll talk about it. Adam laughs. He is the king. By the way, obviously, you know, that's— That's anti-Semitic right now. I don't know if Adam, you alright? It is. We'll talk about it. Adam left. We'll talk about it. I actually want to get his take as well.

Starting point is 00:03:13 Elevation Church, who has this pastor that's gone viral—he's actually a very good motivational speaker. He happens to be a pastor as well. They have decided not to use the word resurrection on Easter invites and when they explain to you their reasoning, it's kind of weird. I actually want to get Tom's thoughts on that. And then California unemployment rate. Ready for this, folks?

Starting point is 00:03:34 You shouldn't be surprised. California unemployment rate is officially the highest in the nation. California has the highest unemployment rate in the nation. California has the highest unemployment rate in the nation. They should see who ABC News blames for that and who they don't blame for that. What else we got there? Chuck Todd blasts Network NBC as backlash to hiring ex-RNC chief Rona McDaniel. We'll talk about. Russia attack, death toll rises to 133 in Moscow. Terror attack, 11 suspects arrested. Putin says gunmen who raided Moscow concert hall tried to escape to Ukraine.

Starting point is 00:04:15 Kiev denies involvement. Bill Maher had a few things to say this past weekend. He rips government for censoring dissenting opinions about COVID-19. And then he panics over Trump's gain with young voters. Biden might lose because hot dogs cost more. And then he rips Dems for pandering to minority voters. Move on from identity politics. It is no longer working.

Starting point is 00:04:39 CEO of Boeing steps down amidst slew of safety concerns. Five below fights back on theft by reducing self-checkout. And then there's a couple things that's going on with migrant gate, Russian El Paso highlighting friction between federal and Texas border enforcement. You have to hear what our friend, uh, uh, Corrine Jean-Pierre had to say. Oh, she's brilliant. She's brilliant. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:04 I mean, just so her level of, uh, of, you know, just a whole different story. By the way, to the people at Forbes, used to be a place for capitalists, used to be a place where entrepreneurs would go read Forbes. Today, it's a place you go to if you believe in socialism. And you know, if you believe in illegal immigration, reduces taxes for everybody. Because here's what Forbes just wrote. They said, research shows immigrants benefit U immigrants benefit US taxpayers. Can you imagine the company that was once? Started by a man and his son took it to a whole different level then they sold 95% of it to Chinese investors

Starting point is 00:05:39 Says Immigration benefits US taxpayer. I can see Tom Insider writing that. I can see Variety writing that. I can see a lot of other people writing that. I never thought in a million years Forbes would be writing an article like that. And then we got a few other stories but we'll go start off with that. Let me also, you know, did I say the Diddy Raid? We talked about Diddy Raid and we have to talk about Otani, man. Otani is a very interesting situation. He's actually potentially may get credit for Pete Rose ending up in the Hall of Fame, the way he's doing certain things and I'll tell you why my thoughts are on that.

Starting point is 00:06:17 A couple other updates. Rob, do me a favor. Can you pull up, I'm so proud of you guys, out in the audience, go to YouTube and type in biz doc last week on Thursday I challenge you guys to show your loyalty and you did Tom was at twenty nine thousand four hundred subs After last Thursday's challenge to all of you you proudly showed your loyalty to biz doc Tom went from twenty nine thousand up to thirty four thousand up to thirty 38,000, to 45,200 subs. The most subs ever he got during that time. We have a new strategy. I think Tom was telling me he's got a new strategy on how to get to a million.

Starting point is 00:06:52 Can you guys beat the shit out of me right now so I could get some type of strategy? What is the history aside? What is the kiss your ass, PBD? Thank you for your support. I'd like to thank everybody for your support of the BizDoc Podcast, proudly published by Valuetainment under the Valuetainment media umbrella. Thank you so much for getting behind it. Yeah, and by the way, Tom, that strategy is 15 away from getting to a million subs, which is pretty exciting.

Starting point is 00:07:14 What strategy was that? But awesome. I love the fact that he supported Tom and he does a show. He does a phenomenal job. You guys can go check him out. Tom and he does a show, he does a phenomenal job, you guys can go check him out. Aside from that, for those of you guys that watch the podcast regularly and maybe you have hot tea like me with honey or you drink your coffee to the coffee community, I'll most likely join you guys in five years, but at this point I still don't need coffee. We have these new mugs, and by the way, this new mug that just came out is the PBD Podcast mug with Future Looks bright on it, so let me kind of show this to you, and I'll tell you what we're running on this podcast and

Starting point is 00:07:50 Kelly took care of this let me pour this so I don't burn. I'm taking one I'm acquiring one of those out of this here, so you pour the hot water in there if it's hot And yes what it turns into by the way while you're having this hot tea Ordered a drink. Let me see if this thing is hot. It is not all of a sudden. But surely you see the color changes to the PBD podcast color. Oh, that's sick. And yes, you'll see the red and the blue of PBD podcast color coming in. I don't know. You're like one of those models on those late night, like by the QVC back in the day. So here's what, your PBD QVC. Here's what we're doing. We got the value Taman, MUG, you have two different,

Starting point is 00:08:28 four different options on whichever one you wanna get, whether it's the gold, the black, the red, the OG, red or the black. You buy two, you get the third one for free. Pick and choose which one you want. The link's gonna be below. The discount code's gonna be PBDMUGS, I believe. Right Rob? PBDMUGS believe right Rob PBD mugs plural PBD m ugs

Starting point is 00:08:48 And what's the website to go to VT merch calm find the mugs order to and you'll get the third one for free sports the show here while you're watching it and Yeah, go order two of those you'll get the third one for free. Having said that, let's get right into the podcast. Okay, first story I want to get into is Trump with what happened with the civil fraud fine. Here's some things that we need to know about on this case. 13 Trump properties that New York AG Letitia James can go after if he doesn't pay up. So this was a story from last week. They're going to go after this property,

Starting point is 00:09:25 they're gonna go after that property. Everybody on the left was fired up about them going after all of these properties and they were so excited about it. First one was at Seven Springs. The property spanning over 200 acres in Westchester County was fraudulently valued by Trump at 291 million. Remember, this article is written by

Starting point is 00:09:45 Insider just so you know so the words they use you can see certain words They're using whereas it actual net worth is 25 million dollars according to Forbes So this one here they can go after they can go after Westchester golf club Which is valued at around 15 million assessed initially at 15 million depending on what the number again You're trusting what inside are saying. 40 Wall Street, okay, is the other one. You got Trump Tower, triple X apartment.

Starting point is 00:10:12 You got Trump Tower commercial space. You got 1290 Avenue of America's Trump World Tower, Trump Park Avenue, okay. They're saying it's worth 101 million, but claiming up to 350 million. 6E Street, 57th Street, Trump Plaza, Trump Park, Trump International Hotel and Tower, Trump Palace, all of these things they wrote. You know which one they didn't write? They didn't write Mar-a-Lago, because even CNN, when they said Mar-a-Lago was worth only $18 million, later on they came back and said Mar-a-Lago can be sold today for $240 million.

Starting point is 00:10:44 Even they realized what the value was. However, Trump can now post smaller bond in civil fraud case. New York Appeals Court granted Donald J. Trump a significant victory by accepting a bond of $175 million in a civil fraud case, providing relief from a potential financial crisis. This smaller bond offers a crucial lifeline for Trump preventing the New York Attorney General office from collecting the judgment while he appeals. Trump's lawyer argued that the trial judge's $454 million penalty was excessive and unconstitutional,

Starting point is 00:11:18 emphasizing the likelihood of overturning it on appeal. The penalty stemmed from accusations of inflating net worth to obtaining for favorable loans leading to interest payments, etc., etc. Anyways, so this just happened, Tom. How big of a deal and how big of a victory is this for Trump? Well, it's not a, it's a victory for Trump, but it's a return to sanity for the court. When you have a judgment like this, you go to appeal you have the opportunity To wait if you were to look at all the judgment look at the asbestos case look at the what was the?

Starting point is 00:11:52 Camp Lejeune that had the water purification issues And the poisoning of soldiers you take a look at all these fraud cases Nobody gets a nickel to all these cases they get appealed they get appealed they fraud cases, nobody gets a nickel to all these cases. They get appealed, they get appealed, they get appealed. Nobody gets a nickel because we have due process. And so asking him to put the full amount up is like saying, never mind, never mind. We're not going to worry about the appeal process or due process. You just put the money here. Well, she wouldn't get the money.

Starting point is 00:12:23 It would be held by the state. And so bringing this back down is just like bringing bail down. When you've committed a crime or something, they have bail to ensure that you'll show up in court. And so moving this down is the right thing to do because it's what happens in our court process. They were treating him differently. This is a return to sanity.

Starting point is 00:12:42 This is the right move by the courts. And by the way, there's a lot of people not speaking into the microphone that want this to happen because other civil fraud cases and stuff, they don't want it to happen either. Yeah. By the way, do you know what was the amount of Bernie Madoff's scheme? Can you pull up what Bernie Madoff's scheme was? How much money did he scheme from people? They gave him life in prison, right?

Starting point is 00:13:04 That's not, that's a lot. Can you pull up how much? Your life. He's dead now. What's the dollar? Watch this here. In 2009, the Southern District of New York charged Bernie Madoff for his $64 billion securities fraud Ponzi scheme.

Starting point is 00:13:19 It was one of the most prolific financial crimes in American history. It is the most prolific financial crimes. Do you know what his bill was? Do you guys know what his bill was? No. I want you to guess what his bill was. 10%. Okay.

Starting point is 00:13:32 10% will be $6.4 billion, right? Do me a favor, go pull up- No, not that high. No, take that back. Go pull up Bernie Madoff's bail amount right there. December 2008 was arrest and charge securities fraud. Madoff posted a $10 million bail in December 2008, remained under charge securities fraud made off posted a 10 million dollar bill in December 2008 remained under 24 Hour monitoring house arrest in the Upper East Side penthouse apartment until his guilty plea on March 12th in 2009

Starting point is 00:13:53 This guy stole 60 plus billion dollars from people in New York. Just 10 million dollars. This is actual Pounds like its actual scheme like theft. Yeah. And it's only 10 million dollars. Go ahead, Tom. And by the way, it was 24 hour monitoring and house arrest. Because you want to know why? They were scared that he might go somewhere, that there would be no extradition. Something that big for a guy that old,

Starting point is 00:14:17 he's only got 20 years left. They thought he would flee the country. Is Trump going to flee the country? No. He wants to stay here and run it. He's the most recognizable person on the planet. Now check this out, go to SPF. Can you go to SPF real quick? What did SPF do? SPF lost how much money? We know the number. It's 32 billion dollars I think it's what the numbers if you want to kind of uh

Starting point is 00:14:36 If you type in he cost he cost he lost 32 billion dollars overnight. That's the number But if you zoom in type in 32 billion Zoom in right there FTX was valued at 32 billion dollars. Okay, so what's this bill? Can you put up SPFs bill amount? Okay, Sam Bankman freed bail Bail amount. Yeah 250 million dollars. Okay on how much money on? 30 billion 32 billion dollars you put 250

Starting point is 00:15:05 so now these guys actually did a crime yeah both of them and were flight risk yes both of them committed a crime on the other end everybody got paid appraisals were done on both ends no lender is coming out but you go after him to deplete of all his savings and his cash for a crime that's done by who? Way of doing business in New York that's been like that for decades? You want to do something like this? If this stands, the way that they're doing what they're doing, can you pull up the video

Starting point is 00:15:38 of Frank Luntz by the way on what he said Rob, I think these kind of go together. If you go to Frank's video, here's Frank, okay, and okay what he's saying I don't know if that's the video yeah check this out guys sweetheart of a lady go play this clip real quick remember this moment and don't forget it if the New York Attorney General starts to take his homes away starts to seize his assets it's all gonna be on camera pundits are gonna sit there and scream about this this man cannot be elected take his homes away, starts to seize his assets. It's all gonna be on camera. Pundits are gonna sit there and scream about this, this man cannot be elected.

Starting point is 00:16:09 You're going to create the greatest victimhood of 2024, and you're going to elect Donald Trump. If they take his stuff, he's gonna say that this is proof that the federal government and the establishment and the swamp in Washington and all the politicians across the country and the attorneys generals and all of this that this is a Conspiracy to deny him the presidency. He's gonna go up in the polls. Just like he went up every single time they indicted him Isn't it it's wild he's right, but do you agree with what he's saying?

Starting point is 00:16:45 He's 100% right. In the past polls that have been going on for a year now, when Georgia, when Stormy Daniels, when all this stuff, you go after him and the polls go up. We have the evidence of that happening for the past year. And Tom, none of their tactics are working. Let's say it out loud what's happening. From 2016, they cheated with Hillary and the DNC, didn't work. Four years we had to hear that bullshit. And then we had to

Starting point is 00:17:10 have all the impeachments, right? 2020, COVID from China, randomly, our lab, BLM, Antifa, in the streets, everything, cheating, got them out. This is cheating out in the open. This is them going, hey, listen, we know he's number one. We have to take him out. They're not even hiding it anymore. And I think every time they do shit like this, and you nailed the time, his numbers are going up and they're making him look out to be a freaking martyr.

Starting point is 00:17:34 Period. So like I always say, FTM, follow the money. By the way, breaking news with everything that happened with True Social, Trump has now doubled his net worth. Trump's net worth, I sent this to you Rob is now So we're gonna get into that in a minute six point five billion dollars So I know we're gonna talk about true social but always follow the money

Starting point is 00:17:54 So we've always talked about how back in the day with JFK or whether it's Abraham Lincoln It was actual assassination right lately. It's turned into character assassination What they've realized with Donald Trump you can't assassinate his character because he said everything in the world and beyond Yeah, he's still here. So now it's financial assassination and that's how they're going after him. So Leticia James Look, I don't know much about her. Here's what I do know 2018 she called Trump an illegitimate president. She said that. Cool.

Starting point is 00:18:29 So now the election interference, it's sort of making sense. By the way, there's a whole DEI woke narrative, straight, rich, white billionaire patriarchy, you know, black female woke agenda. You know, there's a storyline right there. But the thing I know about Trump,flon Don like this guy doesn't quit I sent you videos of like whether you like Trump don't like Trump love Trump hate Trump There's certain things that remain to be true This guy does not stop bro. Have you had tea today or have tea? It's fine. Where's your tea? I'm warming it up, baby

Starting point is 00:19:02 Where's your tea? I don't know I'm okay. I'll be good drink's fine. Where's your tea? I'm warming it up, baby. Where's your tea? I don't have, I can't afford one of those cups. Here, take this tea, bro. Take this tea. I'm okay, I'll be good. Drink your tea. So, the, you're not gonna kill Trump. Here are just some videos to put in perspective. Play this one right now.

Starting point is 00:19:14 If you think Trump is going away, Democrats, this is his mantra. Thanks. Never, ever quit. Never quit. And I've seen people quitting. And if they would have held out longer, they would have been successful. I've seen people quitting and if they would have held out longer they would have been successful. I've seen it so much. I've seen some of the most brilliant people in the world that never made it because they were

Starting point is 00:19:31 quitters. They were just quitters. They would quit. They would just couldn't take it. They couldn't whatever. Now you have to also have flexibility though. You can't necessarily say I'm never giving up. I'm going to end. You got to be able to weave and bob. You don't have to go through a concrete wall when you can go over it or around it or under it or something. You have to have flexibility. You have to always be able to change course a little bit, but don't quit.

Starting point is 00:20:00 One of the- There you go. So, you know, whether it's 175 million now that they reduced it to versus what the 575 whatever the number was this pales a comparison to what Trump deal dealt with in the 90s this guy owed almost a billion dollars 900 million dollars to be exact when the bankruptcy and the casinos and the hotels basically shut down so he's used to this look at him now with true social six point five billion whether you like him or don't like him this dude don't basically shut down. So he's used to this look at him now with True Social, 6.5 billion.

Starting point is 00:20:26 Whether you like him or don't like him, this dude don't give up. Yeah. So anyways, we'll see what's going to happen here. And let's get into the next story that you were talking about. Truth Social. This just happened guys. Like literally a day after they're trying to get this guy to go away, Truth Social merger throws curveball into presidential race. This is a Hill story. Former President Trump truth social merger deal adds a financial twist to the presidential race aiming to close the fundraising gap with Biden who has been significantly outraged in Trump's campaign. Trump faces financial

Starting point is 00:20:58 hurdles due to ongoing legal battles including a looming deadline to post nearly a half a billion dollars for civil fraud, civil trial bond. Trump's leadership pact, Save America, spent nearly three million dollars in legal consulting fees in January and another $5.6 million last month. But the multi-billion dollar merger with Digital World Acquisition Corp, where Trump is poised to be the majority shareholder, raises questions about its potential to address financial strains, the deal could potentially generate, ready, $3.5 billion for Trump, although regulatory constraints might delay its impact on Trump's financial position as major shareholders are restricted from selling their stock for

Starting point is 00:21:36 at least six months. Tom, how big of a deal is this? This is a huge deal. This is basically liquidity, and this is liquidity huge deal. This is basically liquidity and this is Liquidity net worth and what I mean by that is you've got the SPAC which is going out by the way There's nothing special here. There's nothing unusual So I can't wait for the pundits to come out and claim one way or another of what's going on But I'll tell you right now Donald Trump's Truth Social, is going out on the stock market.

Starting point is 00:22:05 It's trading today under the ticker, oh, what a surprise, DJT. Great name. Is that really the ticker? Yes, yes. Yeah, I believe. Rob, can you check that? Yes, it is.

Starting point is 00:22:17 I believe the ticker is DJT. It is. I have a 99% sure. And- 100%, Vinny. Yeah, it is. Look at that. DJT. 100%, Vinny.

Starting point is 00:22:24 And let's go out here. Are we trading today? It's 932, so markets should be open, 100% Vinnie. Yeah it is. Look at that. 100% Vinnie. Are we trading today? It's 932 so it should be, market should be open but the SPAC may open a little bit late. Well Markey cap today is 1.86 billion. Okay and the majority shareholder, yes. So basically there's a lockup agreement. What a lockup agreement. When something goes new on the stock market, sometimes they ask the major insiders have to wait a while for the stock to settle sometimes. It's 90 days sometimes

Starting point is 00:22:50 It's six months. There's a six month lockup agreement. Well, guess what you can make loans You can get loans against your stock. So Donald Trump if if he has a 700 million dollars of value in this his broker will lend him up to $350 million. So basically, he has all the cash he needs. And by the way, in court, his lawyer said that of the $175 million, Your Honor, we have cash on hand or prepared to wire. That has to come with an affidavit showing that it's there.

Starting point is 00:23:23 And that was two, three days ago. So basically let the libs lose their mind. He's got more than enough liquidity he needs, not only for these bonds and the civil things he's facing, but something called his election fund. Tom, let me tell you something about what I learned about a lockup period and it's not going to jail. Remember in 2021, we're in Boca. Crypto was bananas. And I invested in our buddy Adrian's crypto fund.

Starting point is 00:23:52 Good amount of money, you know, a nice chunk of change, six figures, to my best friend. And he started this fund, right? And crypto blew up What ended up happening was our account? according to The current estimate was worth. I don't know if you remember this. I do remember seven million dollars I go What so I go sell this shit now right now? Yeah, like now he goes. Yeah, there's a six-month lock

Starting point is 00:24:28 I'm like buddy six months and one minute sell this shit. Yeah Six months later. Yeah, it was worth basically the same amount that I gave him great as the investment So that's when I had to live in a studio apartment with This lock lockup period, who knows what will happen in six months. What you're saying is, who knows what this is going to be worth? There's a big difference. The difference is, over the next six months, let's see exactly what six months is, okay? Let's take six months from March 25th.

Starting point is 00:24:58 What is six months from March 25th? September 25th. What's September 25th? The peak of Election and interest in wanting to know what the hell is going on and this man is still not tweeting which means everybody's gonna go To truth social and truth is gonna be quoted by everybody when they say President Trump just commented this on truth social truth social President Trump on truth social truth, truth social, President Trump on truth social, truth social, truth social, truth social.

Starting point is 00:25:26 They're going to hear it so many times, so the valuation of it's going to go higher because traffic going to it and the level of interest is going to be higher. Where truth is going to decrease is after the election. But between now and six months, it is not going to be going anywhere. They just have to find a way to get the right kind of traffic and sponsorship and money coming in, and we'll see how the market's going to react to the valuation of it, Tom. Exactly right. I mean between now and the six months, and by the way, what Adam was describing, Adam,

Starting point is 00:25:52 you would have been categorized as an insider. So if you had sold at that time, the reason that the lockup laws exist is so that an insider like you doesn't sell in, pops up, and then you sell out and leave the retail investors, everybody else that came along, hey, maybe I'll take a chance on this. Maybe Vinny and I will put $5,000 each in this. And then all of a sudden we see the insiders are gone and the stock drops. That's what the lockup period does. It protects the retail investors, we hope, from insiders just throwing all their stuff out there, which will also drop the price.

Starting point is 00:26:24 Now for Donald Trump, right now, this is normal. He's gonna get a credit line from a large bank, and the banks will be happy to give it to him at the interest rates they'll give it to him, just like he gets loans for other things. They probably won't want their name in the press, but he's gonna have everything he needs to go forward, and this is, once again, he has what he needs

Starting point is 00:26:43 to do what he wants to do very much like that clip never quit Sometimes you go around the wall. Sometimes you go under it someday of you under it Yeah, and sometimes you open a new company and sometimes you build it Tom. Sometimes you build a machine build They can't stop him. They could just slow him down, bro I'm so happy that and what randomly look how God works all of a sudden six point some billion dollars good good And you know, I got to give Biden credit don't ever say that again on this freaking podcast. All right relax extremist He actually came up with a great nickname For Trump Trump, you know, little Marco, you know sleepy jet all that

Starting point is 00:27:18 Biden called him broke down pretty cool. All right, that's a good Nickname to go with if you're actually owing 500 million dollars but when your net worth doubles after truth social goes public, now you're rich. Let me tell you, the more I was thinking about the strategy here on what it would be, it's purely to put them in a corner. Like go to the dark strategy, okay? Think about your opponent as the darkest, most envious human beings of all time, because that's what it is in politics. You're dealing with the darkest. Why is that?

Starting point is 00:27:53 Because, see, in the world of business, there is numbers and there's leaders bulletin, meaning how many customers did you sell Starbucks? This many. How much profit did you bring? This much. How many employees do you sell Starbucks this many how much profit did you bring this much? How many employees do you have this much? What was your top line revenue this much? Okay based on that Your worth four billion dollars good for you. How many employees does Starbucks have can you pull up or Rob? I think they have two hundred forty thousand employees worldwide. It's it can you it's either 240 or 420 It's one of those to show Show Starbucks total employees, right?

Starting point is 00:28:27 What is the number? 240. Okay. It's now. So 390, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200,

Starting point is 00:28:35 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200, 200 do. Guess what? It's real data. The reason why he has 391,000 employees is because he has more money coming in that he can employ those types of people. All right.

Starting point is 00:28:49 In the world of business, founders start a business super hard. Guy today on Manecta is asking me a question. He's talking about, well, my dad doesn't listen to me, and I'm really trying to get my dad to listen, and I know he started the business. So let me put it to you this way. There's a difference between being a founder and there's a difference between being a CEO. A founder goes through different kind of pains that a CEO goes through. Your father sacrificed everything to make this business work, right? Okay. Now go into politics. Politicians are filled with envious

Starting point is 00:29:18 people. Why is that? Because in politics, if they made it in business They would have been easily validated as somebody that's super successful, right? It's validated Capitalism validates you very simple and it comes with hate Well, the way he made his money wasn't fair was his dad's money He made the money through and then they're gonna say everything in anything the fact that you made your money It's always gonna be the case, right? However, why would they want to do this? Go to the darkest opponents you'll ever face. Maybe because they want to deplete his savings, so then he has to ask money from some friends

Starting point is 00:29:53 in New York that are billionaires and then they can come back and say, he has joined the swamp, he is now owing all these people favors, Trump is now owned, he's officially a swamp guy. He officially has to do everything they tell him to do. So that whole brand that I'm doing everything with my own money for the campaign, that brand goes away. Once that goes away, now it's equal opportunity. You're one of us.

Starting point is 00:30:18 Guess what, guy? Welcome to the swamp. You are now part of the swamp. And there is no way they're happy about what happened with Truth Social. Now they're probably sitting around on different conference calls and Zooms trying to figure out a way to destroy Truth Social. Wait till you see a whole different angle now that's going to be coming up with what they do with Truth Social.

Starting point is 00:30:35 Stay tuned. Over the next three to six months, there may be a whole different kind of witch hunt, cyber attack, something happening with Truth Social, because that's going to be their next strategy to do that. Again, allegedly, this could possibly happen. that's gonna be their next strategy to do that again Allegedly this could possibly happen. Let's go to the next story Ronald McDaniel Joins NBC after pressure campaign from Trump to resign from the RNC Rob Do you have the video of him hurt saying that I was asked to leave the RNC see if you have the video if you don't have it It's not hard to find it's on Twitter. So former RNC chairwoman

Starting point is 00:31:12 Ronna McDaniel joins NBC News as an on-air contributor with her day debut schedule for me to press this Sunday making her first interviews and stepping down from the RNC As reported by the Hollywood Reporter. Okay? Anyway, she's there to give insider perspective, and while this is going on, they were not too happy about it. Okay? MSNBC doesn't plan to put ex-RNC chair, Ronald McDaniel, on the network. So now they're going back and forth because that's a story the day later.

Starting point is 00:31:40 And then, by the way, I think that's the one right there that you had. I think that's the one right there. Can you zoom in to see what the day March the zoom in and that's exactly the one Okay, and there was a why not speak out earlier. So yeah, that's the one. Can you play that clip real quick? So that's her on meet the press. I think a couple days ago Well, let's talk about the election now Donald Trump says one of his first acts if he is reelected to a second term, would be, quote, to free those charged and convicted of crimes related to January 6.

Starting point is 00:32:09 Do you support that? I want to be very clear. The violence that happened on January 6 is unacceptable. There we go. It doesn't represent our country. It certainly does not represent my party. We should not be attacking the Capitol. We should not be my party. We should not be attacking the Capitol. We should not be having violence.

Starting point is 00:32:25 I said it that day. I put a statement out that day that this is not acceptable. If you attacked our Capitol and you have been convicted, then that should stay. So then, but to the question though, do you disagree with Trump saying he's going to free those who've been charged? I do not think people who committed violent acts on January 6 should be freed. So you disagree with that. He's been saying that for months. I know why not speak out earlier why just speak out about that now. When you're the RNC chair you kind of take one for the whole

Starting point is 00:32:57 team right now I get to be a little bit more myself right. I don't think violence should be in our political discourse, Republican or Democrat. And I disagree with that. I agree with him on a whole host of other things. Let's close the border. Let's make sure we have good incomes for people. Let's make sure we do a lot of great things. But on that point, I don't think we should be freeing people who violently attacked Capitol

Starting point is 00:33:21 Hill police officers and attacked the Capitol. And by the way, do you have the clip, Rob, of her saying, you know, that Biden wanted fair and square, you know, because there's another clip with her. This interview continues with her saying a bunch of different things. And then Todd loses his mind. And then we'll go to that one. So watch this one here, folks. Watch this one here.

Starting point is 00:33:41 Because you did say you just said Joe Biden's a legitimately elected president. This is the first time you have said this. It's not. I have said it many times. Well, this is what you said a year ago to Chris Wallace. Sure. I want to play you what you said.

Starting point is 00:33:55 Are you saying as the chair of the Republican Party that you still have questions as to whether or not Joe Biden was the duly elected president in 2020? Joe Biden's the president. No, I didn't ask you whether he's the president. No, I don't think that, I think there were lots of problems. Do you think he won the election? I think there were lots of problems with 2020. He's ultimately, he won the election.

Starting point is 00:34:12 Pardon? Ultimately, he won the election, but there were lots of problems with the 2020 election. 100%. And that's fair. But I don't think he won it fair. I don't, I'm not gonna say that. See?

Starting point is 00:34:23 Yep, weird. He didn't win it fair. Wait, guys, I can't hear this. Go back, I wanna see what you're saying. Go back, there you go. He didn't wait guys. I can't hear I want to see what you think go back a little bit fair at that point Can you say as you sit here today? Did Joe Biden win the election fair and square? He won? He's the legitimate president where and square he won. It's certified So when you do that when you do that when you do that, here's what happens when you do something like that You know how much it costs for her to say that? You know what her salary is? With NBC? Can you pull up what her salary is?

Starting point is 00:34:48 She just signed, like she actually signed it. What they're offering her. I mean obviously the number is give or take. For $300,000, Ronna McDaniel will flip for you and change your opinion. That's all she's being paid? That's all she's being paid for. $300,000. You know what she needs to watch? She needs to watch the movie Ascent of a Woman. And she needs to go watch the speech all the way at the end, okay, and hear what Colonel, what's his name?

Starting point is 00:35:14 Colonel- Frank Sleck. Frank Sleck, what he says at the end, and see what the other kids, or the son of the other guy, what he was, you know, you could buy him off and all this stuff and the school you can buy my but you couldn't buy out yeah but not a beard man yeah when he goes yeah he goes but Charlie wasn't selling but Charlie wasn't selling George sitting in big daddy's pocket that's right yes who was selling Rona McDaniel for sale $100,000 and you're

Starting point is 00:35:43 you're saying it with a straight look on your face that there wasn't. So let me ask you this question. That whole story of New York Post that was going viral with Hunter Biden, that Twitter files came out and revealed based on what Taibbi and Barry Weiss wrote with Elon Musk and releasing all of that stuff and saying that yeah, they were in communication with the FBI and everybody. Don't release that. You don't think that would have flipped the vote?

Starting point is 00:36:05 You know how many people said they would have voted in a different way? You don't think? Now, she may, if you want to categorize and isolate each issue and say, look, was there voter mail-in drop, all that stuff? Okay, maybe isolate that. Okay, you can say yes or no. Maybe you can sit them, but to say there was none with Twitter after the files came out and after 50 intelligence

Starting point is 00:36:26 agents coming out and saying there is 100% nothing going on with that laptop and they fooled America into voting for that guy, you can sit there with a straight look on your face and say no? You lost credibility. And by the way, just so you know, Ronald McDaniel, just so you know this. So not only did you lose, you had some, but now you lost credibility with the party that you were the chairwoman for, but guess what they're thinking about you at NBC? That you'll flip again if Fox gives you $500,000? You go throw NBC under the bus.

Starting point is 00:37:02 Your first sale is what it is. Can you play how Chuck Todd reacts to this, Rob? If you don't mind, go play the Chuck Todd clip and see what his reaction was for this. Play this clip here, watch this, folks. Dive right in, what were your takeaways? Look, let me deal with the elephant in the room. I think our bosses owe you an apology

Starting point is 00:37:19 for putting you in this situation. Because I don't know what to believe. She is now a paid contributor by NBC News. I have no idea whether any answer she gave to you was because she didn't want to mess up her contract. She wants us to believe that she was speaking for the RNC when the RNC was paying for her. So she has credibility issues that she still has to deal with. Is she speaking for herself or is she speaking on behalf of who's paying her?

Starting point is 00:37:47 Once at the RNC she did say that, hey, I'm speaking for the party. I get that. That's part of the job. So what about here? I will say this. I think your interview did a good job of exposing, I think, many of the contradictions. And look, there's a reason why there's a lot of journalists at NBC News uncomfortable with this, because many of our professional dealings with the RNC

Starting point is 00:38:09 over the last six years have been met with gaslighting, have been met with character assassination. So it is, you know, that's where. You can pause this, you just crossed the line with character assassination, bro, you guys are like. He's talking shit, yeah, by the way, what a shill. But by the way, he makes a good point. No, he doesn't make a good point like that to trust her.

Starting point is 00:38:26 Oh yeah, 100% because well, first of all, yeah, but Ronald McDaniel, this just goes to show you like what Trump has had to and go to deal with. This is the head of the RNC. This is her character. By the way, this doesn't happen overnight. That's the type of person that she's always been, Patrick. Like he has to deal with these people. That's why when people go go oh well Trump assigned Christopher rain

Starting point is 00:38:47 FBI like bro he has no freaking choice this is the setup by the way established you know what the Vicks marketing team needs to do the Vicks marketing team needs to cut the clip from the part where he says come on up here and apologize to the entire Republican Party at Ronna McDaniel I'll give you my time and then they need to cut small clips of that 15 seconds of what she just said about insurrection, about what she just said, about the election, about what she just said, that there was everything needs to be cut and then goes back with that laughing, laughing the fact that he was right. Because all of this validates that this guy when he had this moment, can you play this

Starting point is 00:39:22 clip Rob? The brass yet when he did this, go ahead and play this clip. We were there for this one. Yeah, of course. President. I think there's something deeper going on in the Republican Party here and I am upset about what happened last night. We've become a party of losers at the end of the day. We as a cancer in the Republican establishment. Speak the truth. I mean, since Ronald McDaniel took over as chairwoman of the RNC in 2017. We have lost 2018, 2020, 2022, no red wave that never came. We got trounced last night in 2023. And I think that we have to have accountability in our party.

Starting point is 00:39:55 For that matter, Ron, if you want to come on stage tonight, you want to look the GOP voters in the eye and tell them you resign, I will turn over my yield my time to you. And frankly, look, the people there cheering for losing in the Republican Party. Think about who's moderating this debate. This should be Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan and Elon Musk. We'd have 10 times the viewership asking questions that GOP primary voters actually care about and bringing more people into our party. You think the Democrats-

Starting point is 00:40:20 That's us clapping in the back. I started that vlog. You think the Democrats would actually hire Greg Gutfeld to host a democratic debate They wouldn't do it And so the fact that matters I mean Christian I'm gonna use this time because it's actually about what you and the media and the corrupt Media establishment ask you the Trump Russia collusion hoax that you pushed on this network for years Was that real or was that Hillary Clinton made up all information? Answer the question, go!

Starting point is 00:40:45 Mr. Rousey. Yeah, exactly. She's frozen. So the reason why this is important is because more of these things that happen, right now, you know how the college football season ends and a team loses the BCS championship bowl or whatever it is or NBA championship somebody loses or MLB but the team that loses has number one highest odds of winning the following year yeah right for many different reasons right now Vivek has to be at the top of the list for 2028 okay there are

Starting point is 00:41:23 so many ways to sell Vivek's story for 2028. So many things he did that if there was not a Trump in 2024, he would have had all of those Trump MAGA voters been on his side. Okay. If there was no Trump. Now, obviously there's a person that's in his way, which is who? The man that, you know, created this America first concept and MAGA and all the stuff that's given inspired Vivek to become without a Trump maybe there's not a Vivek being inspired but all I'm saying is 2028 he's a number one draft pick right now for presidential candidate for 2028 and he's validating every time Ronna McDaniel

Starting point is 00:41:57 does what she does with NBC this just validates all those points that he made Tom. So there's two things going on here. The first thing is let's step away from the fog for a minute and look at it. Vivek was right. Ronald McDaniel did a bad job leading the party. You're supposed to lead on strategy, pulling people together. You're supposed to lead on fundraising, pulling people together, and you're supposed to win when there's an opportunity to win. She was not up against Obama. She was not up against Bill Clinton. She lost. And so she did a bad job at her job and guess what? Accountability. She should be fired, resigned, leave, you know, CEO gets packaged, whatever it is she should leave.

Starting point is 00:42:34 Part one. Part two. In politics, you always walk down the street to New York and you do one of two things. You go to a publisher and you get a book deal or You go and you become a pundit look at the look at Saki she got her show all these people there's a there is a there's a path you don't have to go hacking through the jungle There's a well-worn path to go to New York and get your book deal or get on on media And now she goes on media and NBC now. Let's think about it Why did the bosses at NBC put her on the media? Because that's what they're supposed to do. They're supposed to see if they can bring voters. So they're like, hey you

Starting point is 00:43:11 know she's conservative way over here on the left. Backstory, ad rates down, viewership down, NBC News, MSNBC News, ratings suck-C-K suck. So the bosses are trying to do something, next innovative campaign, to see if maybe they could bring somebody on that'll bring some lightning, bring some viewership. Instead, they had what's called organ rejection. Pat can tell you, if you hire the wrong person into the wrong culture, into your organization, it's catastrophic. And your organization, despite what you say, I'm hiring this new VP of sales and he's coming in here, she's coming in here, we're

Starting point is 00:43:51 going to take him. If the organization is the wrong culture, it's like organ rejection. They are going to reject and that person will soon be gone. And that's what's happened here because NBC is the journalists, and I can't believe Chuck Todd uses that word, he should go look it up up the dictionary used by Walter Cronkite he's wrong you are shills you are talking heads you are telegenic people with a producer in your ear Chuck let's talk about what it really is and they're out there it's organ rejection they're like hey oh my gosh one of the enemy is here now they're bringing up

Starting point is 00:44:21 good points she is for sale flipping back forth. But NBC bosses went to do what they always do. Bring somebody in who's available. Can you bring viewers? Can you do something from the other side? But she did a bad job. She was fired and here's- She's for sale. I mean, that's what this-

Starting point is 00:44:36 But they've been losing, Vivek nailed it. They've been losing since she, when did she become chair of the RNC? How long has she been in that? 2018. So think about it, losing, losing like bro it's almost as if they put her ass in there on purpose because this is her character then she flips now what do you mean no they didn't put it there on purpose here's

Starting point is 00:44:55 what's going on you think there's loyalty in any like you so because Adam you believe in this party I don't believe in I believe in the you and a party and they're all on the same team it's wrestling I don't believe I'm not one of those red wave blue wave they are all on the same game. It's wrestling I don't believe I'm not one of those red wave blue wave. They are all on the same team They all make us the illusion of oh my god. They're fighting for us. It's all bullshit She's she's exactly what the swamp is. It's Rama McDaniel 1000% Which they the Democrat the other side what I'm saying is I think the Democrats Rana McDaniel as the chair of the RNC

Starting point is 00:45:26 I'm just saying it's literally the exact opposite of that. Hold on a second Adam since she's been in what has happened to the RNC The Republican National Committee, I'll tell you losers. They lose any yeah, and I tell you what Adams go ahead Here's what's going on with Ron McDaniel. The reality today is she is politically homeless with Rhonda McDaniel. The reality today is she is politically homeless. What do I mean? So I actually watched, I watch Meet the Press every Sunday, I've watched it forever with Chuck Todd, and now Kristen Welker is actually doing a pretty good job.

Starting point is 00:45:55 She has left, right, she's pretty- More left, more left than right. No, she has tons of people. Have you ever watched the show? No. Definitely not, Adam, but did she push all that bullshit agenda during COVID and everything. She's she's not credible at all talking about since she started the show, meet the press a few months ago.

Starting point is 00:46:14 It's actually done a good job. Okay. Here's the reality of what's going on here. When I say she's politically homeless, Kristen Welker pushed her. She said she played the Trump quote played the Vivek quote about Losing her response was because you can't defend losing 2018 2020 2022 and potentially 2024 you can't defend that so what did she do?

Starting point is 00:46:39 She gave the DEI inclusion narrative. Well since I've been chairman, chairwoman of the RNC despite losing all those elections we've elected more women, more people of color and she kind of went down that route. Well reality is they're not winning. But why do I say she's politically homeless? It's because the GOP as we know it, the RNC as we know it no longer exists It is the MAGA party and we know this who's the new chairwoman of the RNC? Laura Trump little nepotism. So thank God, okay, but that's good for him. Okay So we the reality is whether Trump wins whether Trump loses we shall see

Starting point is 00:47:24 Nobody has any clue what the future of the RNC or the GOP will be after Trump. Vivek, maybe we sell she. But we all know Ronna McDaniel's maiden name, and it is Romney. She's as establishment as it gets. The reality is, is in the RNC, whether whether you're Romney whether you're Cheney Whether you're Pence You don't exist anymore in the party we played the clip of a vec at the

Starting point is 00:47:56 Debate in Miami. Well Tom and I were there at the debate in California with PBT as well It was completely the opposite Shit show Tom Absolute shit show California and crazy California was low energy poorly assembled bad So it was such a shit show we could literally walk on stage and say hi to the candidates We did you slugged pants in his ass. I went up to Mike Pence and I was like a great job VP Pence I think you're gonna to win this thing. You got this. After we stepped on the stage.

Starting point is 00:48:28 I did a video. He's like, thank you, thank you. He's like, Ron, I'm McDaniel, how are you? I turn around and put the camera around and I'm like, this guy's got no chance. The point that I'm getting at is the establishment is gone from the Republican party. So she has no future. If she tries to go right to the MAGA route, they don't want her. If she tries to go left to the Democrat liberal route,

Starting point is 00:48:51 they don't want her. We talked about Chuck Todd, who by the way, used to host Meet the Press for a decade. Joe Scarborough, who has the biggest show on MSNBC, Dmykha Brzezinski. He's like, I would never have ever on my show condemning the hell out of this. Who's her father, Adam? Who'd you say? Mekdan? She's a Rami.

Starting point is 00:49:10 Not her father. Family member. Where does that guy stand? That's her family though, right? Where does he stand? He's anti-Trump, he's 100% establishment, so what I'm saying is she's the perfect person to put into the RNC to make the RNC lose every single time. By the way, by the way, you know who falls

Starting point is 00:49:30 in that category, Kinzinger? You know, you got Walsh, what's his name, Joe Walsh. We had him on and it was actually, you know, super entertaining. You're a Democrat, you're a Democrat. He's part of a, he's part of a. Well get out of here right now. There's quite a few people that are part of that group

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Starting point is 00:50:04 he's part of a, he's part of a, he's part of a, he's part of a, he's part of a, he's part of your credit score, imagine your credit score goes from 820 overnight to 450 with that community. It's done. You're finished. It's done. And it's not 450 for a year and you recover and fix your credit in three years. Your credit score stays 450 for the rest of your life in politics. That's exactly what happened. But here's-

Starting point is 00:50:18 It's not, and by the way, you're making a very good point that she doesn't have a party today and all this other stuff. But if anybody was on the inside that could give her feedback on strategy, this would probably be the worst move she could make. But there's one thing that could be a slippery slope downside, because if you're part of the Republican Party, now known as the MAGA party, unfortunately, if you don't fully embrace that the election was stolen, and you don't fully embrace that January 6 was just a peaceful protest, you're no longer part of the party. So there needs to be a home

Starting point is 00:50:52 and a big tent within the Republican Party that says, yes, we might differ on some of these things. You know, she had to basically bend the knee and say that Joe Biden is the president, by the way, breaking news guys, he is. But I think it's a little scary and dicey that the Republican Party will now castrate or kick out anybody that doesn't fully embrace election dialysis. That's hard to do. And I will tell you why it's hard to do. This has got nothing to do with MAGA, anti-MAGA, anything like that.

Starting point is 00:51:26 This has got to do with, do you know how to read the Twitter files showing that a story, the US government contacted Twitter to say, take the story from New York Post down, the oldest paper in America, take it down, it's not true. And 50 intelligence agents signed to say this is all a fraud. Three years later, we find out it is, and Hunter Biden says, I want to do this public because I want the world to see that you guys are full of shit. And then he asked the court last week, guess what, CEDA is the only one missing with his name tag sitting there.

Starting point is 00:52:10 His, you have a very hard time convincing that community to say no, that didn't affect the flipping election after 67%, whatever the number was that came out saying, I would have voted differently if I knew that story was right and the intelligence Officers wouldn't have come out and said there was nothing there. Yeah It's kind of hard for people that are able to reason and think about it. So you're fully right I'm giving you zero pushback by the way, when did Elon Musk and the Twitter files come out? Give me the data on that three years over 22. Okay, so the point that I'm getting at is you're absolutely right zero pushback Twitter files There's something shady going on with the New York Post however that has nothing to do with the actual

Starting point is 00:52:54 No, there's nothing she knows Thomas the post Thomas an article. They were told to The old man yells at the sky oh Really finish your point you've went here yells at the sky? Oh, really? Finish your point. Here we go again. It's been 20 minutes to get to a point. I'm waiting with thirsty ears. Can we put Tom to bed soon, guys?

Starting point is 00:53:13 This has nothing to do with what actually happened in the election in Georgia, in Pennsylvania, in Wisconsin, in Michigan. If any, any, any of those court cases held any water and won anyone any of those cases This would be an entirely different conversation fully agree with the Twitter thing Yeah, but you lost every single but you can't say that because that because well, he said he did actual Let me finish That's fine. What he's saying is that is cheating.

Starting point is 00:53:48 Hold on. Hold on. What he's saying with the agencies, with 81 FBI agents working, having an office at Twitter, is cheating. Stopping stories is cheating. I said that I agreed with that. So tell me about the court cases. Okay, are you ready for this for court? If anything, if you think I'm going to, hold on, if you think I'm gonna trust the courts, look what the hell's happening in New York with that piece of shit and Letitia James. I don't trust any court. If they could do that shit to him right now when people go, well, in the courts, they won. They bought and sold the courts a long time ago. I don't trust anything about the judiciary. What do you mean the courts? Every court in America, you don't trust anything? Hold on. Hold on. If zero, I don't trust even in Georgia, guess what? I'm the Republican governor. I don't trust anything about the judicial. What do you mean the courts every court in America? I don't trust. I don't trust even in Georgia. Yes, well the Republican government I don't trust the judicial by the way period by the way

Starting point is 00:54:31 Let's hear if we take again Adam if we take it based on what you're saying Yes, which is the argument to be made okay? Yeah, so they need to prove that point, but the argument it stops at Twitter with Twitter files That's where the argument we don't even need to go to the next step because that one story when Chris What's his name? Call me call me. Is that his name Chris? What was it? Oh, Jim call me Jim call me. What was it? Call me got fired James call me James call me when James call me came out and he said what he said about Hillary Clinton's emails, a

Starting point is 00:55:06 couple weeks before that. Yes, lost her the election. Okay, so you want to... Sorry, sir. Yeah, lost her the election, right? Okay. When did New York Post share the story about Hunter Biden laptop? Pretty much around the same time as when it happened with Comey.

Starting point is 00:55:22 But the difference was they asked Twitter to take it down Did what comey did with Hillary Clinton's email affect the election? You could argue yes for sure. I would argue for sure Yes, if comey doesn't do that does Hillary Clinton win I would say the percentages would increase significantly We're on the same page cool if the I would say the percentages would increase significantly. We're on the same page. Cool. If the New York, forget about all the other counties that you're talking about. If New York Post story isn't taken down and if those lying intelligence officers that came out saying there's nothing in that laptop, would that have changed the election for 2020?

Starting point is 00:55:57 It would have increased Trump's odds for sure. Same as Hillary Clinton, same as Trump's, right? So even Steven is what you're saying. No, what I'm saying is what Comey did impacted the I was shocked that he did it. To be honest with you I was shocked that because he could have done that November 6th right he could have done that November 10th but he did that man and by the way till today I guarantee you deep down and turn inside Hillary Clinton is furious with the fact that he did what he did. Oh he should watch his

Starting point is 00:56:22 back. Oh he's on the hit list for sure but all'm saying is, the same exact way that what Comey did in mid-October hurt Hillary Clinton's chances is the same exact way that the government getting a hold of that article by New York Post affected the election. To me, I don't need to go through the next steps. I'm just simply going to stay there and see the fact that there was influence there. By the way, that's the one that's the Comey one, October 28th. Can you see when the story was for New York Post, Hunter Biden, 2020 election? What day was that?

Starting point is 00:56:55 So if that's October 28th, I'm actually curious to know what exactly that day was. Well, you know how you say, you know, it's like NBA playoffs, it's 3-2 and all that. So ultimately with interference. It's one one Comey affected the outcome No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, And actually said what happened love him or hate him guess what even the folks who voted for Trump If comey doesn't do that Hillary Clinton would have been your president So as much as you guys give call me hate if he would have waited 10 days Hillary Clinton would have been a two-term president just so you know that very high-lucky that happens, right? So he did his job, but on the other side that's called fraud cheating. That's called election interference for the US government agencies to contact Twitter in an email saying take this

Starting point is 00:57:50 story down and then 50 intelligence officers signing their name permanently those guys as the last name is in disgrace to have a lie like that that you affected what happened and you destroyed the country being divided the way they cheated because you played games. Call me, love him or hate him, he did his job. The other ones, manipulative, deceptive and they caused the election to flip. That's the argument. I'm not going to the court. The court stuff, great, it is what it is.

Starting point is 00:58:17 I'm going straight there. For me, the buck stops right there. If we know that happened and you agree that that was gamesmanship and manipulation and you've read the Twitter files The rest of it is irrelevant to me. That's where I stand with that. But anyways, go ahead I'll give you a final thought before we move on from my story I'm with you guys on the Twitter stuff ugly sloppy disgusting, but here's what I can Gare ran tea on November 5th

Starting point is 00:58:41 What's the? Once the last time we had a blowout election in the United States right 49 out of breaking Carter so what as long as we pretty much been on day only long as we've pretty much been alive Tom you were already probably 25 30 with at that at that time there's only been close elections only I mean I was an intern at Tallahassee Capitol in 2000 during the closest election of our lifetime whatever party doesn't win big I guarantee you this time around Trump for

Starting point is 00:59:17 sure like what are the chances if Trump loses actually loses he says yeah I lost fair and square I'm out of here guys. Zero. So get ready for a rigged stolen election. Well, what the poll with if the polls and everything is happening right now, it'd be like, how are people the polls are in his favor. So if it happened right now and Biden has one of those overnight fucking jumps, then guess what?

Starting point is 00:59:40 There's something fishy going on. Adam, this mail in ballot stay home bullshit COVID like it's in your face like they're they're not even hiding anymore I'm going back to his point. There's a difference between getting caught and then actually cheating somebody's doing their job Again, let me ask you one question Vinny. Yeah Let's just say 49 states Reagan in this hypothetical world There's actually just let's just dream for a second okay there's actually no treating no cheating there's no cheating okay it's a secure election all the votes are counted there's no shady stuff

Starting point is 01:00:15 overnight nothing shady okay okay I'm gonna dream right now go ahead I'll close my eyes and Trump actually loses. Does MAGA you yeah Actually say that Joe Biden won the election if we're in a dream and make believe land, of course Adam Because we're dreaming but I don't dream I'm awake and in reality Adam They have been cheating since he mentioned out of his mouth. I want to run for president There's no more. There's no more. There's no more, hold on, there's no more Russia, this, it's out in front of your face. So, and now the people are finally, you guys are finally waking up, not the cool people, the dumb sheep are finally waking up and it's getting worse and it's getting worse and he's getting more more popular. So if it does come down to an atom and something crazy happens

Starting point is 01:01:03 where they keep us from voting. You know, if you ever watch House of Cards, some crazy terrorist attack happened to keep everybody, then guess what it is. But if we were dreaming Adam, I mean you're on a cloud and I'd be like, yeah, a hundred percent. Okay, so let's just go for reality in a second. Well, now we're coming back to real life. Would you accept a fair and free election if Joe Biden wins? Let me... Period. What, right now? What do you mean, fair and free? If he wins?

Starting point is 01:01:28 Let me... Stop, stop, stop. We have plenty of stories to get into, and we're not doing this. Let me simplify this question for you. Do you believe an ID should be required to vote? I'm on the side of yes. Then we will never know if the election is going to be real or not because if out of

Starting point is 01:01:48 16 out of 50 states in America No voter ID is required. That's 220 212 Electoral votes. How's that legal? Okay. Let me let me let me just say this here because what you're asking is impossible 16 states in america require zero ID to vote and that's 212 electoral votes. Then non-photo ID required, meaning you can bring your an ID without your picture on it. That is 11 out of 50 states. That's 69 electoral votes. It's over with that. That's 281 out of 538.

Starting point is 01:02:26 So your scenario does not exist because you and I agree that there needs to be an ID to vote. There is a monopoly if you can't even ask a logical question. On these states, 16 out of 50 states that you go to, you don't need an ID to vote. Do you think you need an ID to go through the TSA pre? Do you think you need an ID to go through TSA? Do you think you need an ID to get on a flight? Do you think you need an ID to get into a club? Do you think you need an ID to order liquor? Do you think you need an ID when you get pulled over? Do you think you need an ID? Yes, but to vote,

Starting point is 01:02:56 which is a million-time bigger decision, no, no, no, we trust you, bro, go ahead. No, I think to me, first we have to fix that if right now we fixed 50 out of 50 states moving forward we're using blockchain technology with video you go like this and all the stuff that we already have and you show your voter ID matches your voice matches everything it goes through it matches your eyes then I would say you lost and you want we move forward but the current system I think what you're presenting in a perfect world I would be willing to invest my life savings in

Starting point is 01:03:36 Las Vegas to say there is zero chance. There's a victory zero because there's a no way in the world There's a victory. Zero. Because there's no way in the world you would actually want an idea to be no voter ID required, you would agree to have a policy like that in a state, and you have a lot of common sense in this area. You can actually sit there and have common sense and say, yeah, it doesn't make sense that 30, what is it, 27 out of 50 states in America don't require a photo ID to vote. That makes no logical sense to you.

Starting point is 01:04:04 Yes or no? Again, I'm on the side of show your ID show your ID when you go to a bar show your ID when you go to cigarettes Show your ID to vote. I will give you a little caveat the states that don't require an ID. Do you think they're red or blue? Right Wrong Vinny. They're blue. So the blue state. We're already blue. They're already voting blue. They don't require an ID So they're not flipping states know if Michigan Wisconsin, Pennsylvania Arizona Georgia didn't require an ID. I'll be like hell. Yeah, we got problem here

Starting point is 01:04:39 What do you think those guys do? What do you think that's a locked up like for for you have a lock up in these communities that you're not needing an ID to be done. Of course you have an advantage over your competitors. You're starting day one with an advantage. There is no debate there, bro. The debate stops right there. Like if you want to know what logical people who work their asses off would like to see is to see that their

Starting point is 01:05:07 votes are being counted accordingly based on proper verification with voter ID. Keep the same set of standards for everything and we're not doing that. So that is where a lot of Americans sit there and question the system because if you really want, you know, I vote every year, I believe you're supposed to vote. We have certain people that say, I just don't vote and I don't, I'm going to sit this one out. I think that's also irresponsible to do so because you're setting the bad example to other kids and other people.

Starting point is 01:05:34 But there's a reason there's a certain community that doesn't believe that their vote matters is because of this. When 27 out of 50 states don't require you to have a photo ID and in those same exact states I need an ID to drink to do all the other stuff. There is gamesmanship. Last question, because I know we want to move on. So if it was that the case, all the states require photo ID. Trump wins.

Starting point is 01:05:54 Do you think Trump wins by a landslide like the Reagan thing? I would trust it. That's what I'm saying. I would trust it if we had that. So that is the problem that I want to have a system that I trust. I remember at one point in the insurance company I was running, Tom will remember this, Tom, you've seen me frustrated behind closed doors with many different things with business, right? There is camera, there's frustration, most

Starting point is 01:06:17 of the time our job is not to reveal whatever the frustration is. My dad once told me when him and my mom would fight, he would say, never fight in front of the kids because you and I need to fight privately. Some people want to fight publicly about real issues. You can fight about silly, like stuff that we're doing right now. Nothing wrong with this. We're having conversations and debate, which is what America needs. But you have certain issues behind closed doors.

Starting point is 01:06:41 Stays between the two of you guys, right? What's the one thing, if you've ever seen me be furious about and and Jennifer would agree with this Moral would agree with this, Tikron would agree with this, Mario would agree with this, Alexis would agree with this. What do you think the one thing is? Dishonesty and basically fraud or manipulation. Okay so that's what people do but I'm talking about internally where we could have controlled something that was frustrating. Oh Self self-inflicted wounds meaning with data Do you remember a leaders bulletin back eight years ago?

Starting point is 01:07:13 Whatever the time you you should remember this vividly right because self-inflicted wound like you you fail to audit your own report You put out on a report and it shoots yourself in the foot Yeah, it's just so meaning when I can't look at the leaders bulletin and it's not 99% accurate, what do you trust when you're voting? You don't, right? So we invested $10 million in the software so this goes away. You're never going to get 100% but you want 99.9% accuracy because you're dealing with technology, right?

Starting point is 01:07:42 And the more and more and more you increase it from 95 percent to 98 percent to 99 percent to 99.9 and then sometimes here's crashes, all this other stuff that happens. If we don't have a system and a software that you watch and you see who wins and who doesn't win, then a person doesn't trust that system. I think whoever wins office on the conservative side, if there is something that I would like to see happen policy-wise, is in my top five, is create a method of voting that more people trust the voting system. We have plenty of technology and concepts in other countries being done that we can

Starting point is 01:08:22 also apply here. Well, why are some people not interested in that? Maybe because it kind of hurts them a little bit. I would like to see that happen. And if that happens, guess what? Nobody else can cry when they lose. Nobody else can bitch if they lose. Not anybody from the left, not anybody on the right,

Starting point is 01:08:36 because we trust the system. Let's go to the next story. DeSantis did something very interesting, and I wanna get your take on this, Tom, specifically you as well, and see what your thoughts on this. So Florida passes law banning social media for minors under the age of 14. The story comes out, I believe, Rob, yesterday, if I'm not mistaken, right?

Starting point is 01:08:56 And here's what the story tells. Ron DeSantis signed legislation Monday that prohibits people under the age of 14 from having social media accounts regardless of parental consent, one of the most restrictive laws aimed at curbing social media access for minors. Under the new law, social media companies are required to close accounts believed to be used by minors under the age of 14. The platforms must also cancel accounts at the request of parents or minors and all information from the accounts must be deleted.

Starting point is 01:09:29 The law is set to take effect on January 1, 2025. Minors who are 14 or 15 years old can obtain a social media account with parental consent according to the new law. Accounts already belonging to teens of that age must be deleted if a parent or guardian hasn't consented. Tom, thoughts on this? This is a very good law. We have the data, but you know what?

Starting point is 01:09:50 The tech sector doesn't want to look at it. We have data on young girls in depression that is directly related to social media. We have data on sexting and bullying of underage kids. We have data of trafficking and predators that are coming out to prey on these impressionable kids that are looking for validation, looking for someone to like them. And so now what we're saying is, hey, we're not just gonna... What if you're a single mom? What if you're really busy? What if you just didn't know? Nope. We're giving you some support. And the support we're giving you is the law and the requirements are in there is that they can't have an account and they can't be doing this. And kids are going to say, but I want it, but I want it, but I want it. Well, look, you know, when I was 17, you know, I, you know, in Florida at the time,

Starting point is 01:10:37 I wanted, I wanted to be able to drink, but I couldn't, it wasn't illegal. I couldn't go to any places. They changed the age of 19 finally to 21 So sometimes what the law is there because what you want it's good for you not to get it So anything about a time that you're uncomfortable with good think think the other way around like is there anything for you? Where you say I think it's a slippery slope or are you like nope? I'm 100% with it, and I support it I'm with it And I support it because of the data that we have on depression, bullying, trafficking, and predators.

Starting point is 01:11:08 We have data. Okay, got it. So, Vinny. And, but did you miss, what was the stat for the whole LGBTQ trans chopping up your genitalia off? How much is that going up? There's a lot of influential things in there, but I'm just talking about we have data on depression, bullying, sex trafficking, and predators.

Starting point is 01:11:24 Yeah, no, and I'm all for it, at 14, what do you like, you have those parents that just give their kids the tablet or the phone and they just walk away from them, I think it's really really irresponsible. I think up to 14, that's a, it's a great law. We say you can't have a driver's license until you're 16 because of certain judgments and things that we want to... Yeah Rob, where are you with this Rob? Where are you with this? I? Have a 14 year old I wouldn't want him on social media at 14 So I I'm definitely pro banning it for kids under the age of 14 I don't know how old your daughters are Tom But I my 14 year old has a cell phone

Starting point is 01:11:58 But he's only allowed to use it when it's the weekends or during the week when he has to contact his mother other than that He's not allowed to have his cell phone because what happens, they get in that doom scrolling. All they do is scroll. I don't want that to be his life. At this age, we have to be in front of devices. You run many companies, you have to be attached to your computer, your iPad, your phone. These kids don't need to be, so why are we putting it in their faces now? Rob, it's on the apps. Minors 17, 12, I'm on the same page. same page yeah, but the apps that you allow on the phone

Starting point is 01:12:28 That's up to you your kid can't go on there and download an app by himself. Can he on the 14 year old? And I have to check his mother set up the cell phone. That's what I was gonna say prior to that We had a thing called a gizmodo It was a watch where literally he could only make phone calls to like four people and he can only receive Incoming calls from people who knew that number it was a perfect setup because if we ever need to get a hold of them We could call but you have any issues with that or no, did you like no? I loved it. It was fantastic, but it got to the age where all the other kids in school had a smartphone dad That's a smartphone. Okay, we can have one. We're gonna set up limitations. That's a good point

Starting point is 01:12:59 by the way, I want to give a shout out to Robert by the way last week was spring break and Hope you don't mind I tell the story about the call his son called him and he's like hey I want to play stay and play video games gonna get access Rob goes go outside kid go play Because again when you get to our age you have to be inside you have to work nine hours a day you have But being outside that was the best part of the kid was Meeting other kids in the neighborhood riding bikes. That's how you form Friendships bonds forever. It's not on the internet Rob and Vinny you guys do a phenomenal job on unusual suspects for some of you guys that tune into these guys that you guys Have 2,700 people live watching last week last week. Yeah, I'm excited about what you guys and Rob speaks

Starting point is 01:13:42 There are a lot with Vinny. Love you, Rob. Adam, what are your thoughts on this? What do you want to say about this? Well, look, I don't have kids like this, but I'm very close with my nephews. Like my best friend, 11 years old. I did not want that kid anywhere near social media. All my best friends, all my closest cousins, they all have kids that are in elementary

Starting point is 01:13:58 and middle school. And all I do is I see these kids on their tablets, tablets, tablets, tablets. Put the phone down. When we were growing up dude basketball football baseball you know hide and seek what just go outside and play you know you talked about the potential porn sex trafficking lots of stuff horrible obviously that will eliminate that hopefully those creepers will find a way there's another side to this you know we didn't grow up with social media. We didn't have

Starting point is 01:14:28 anxiety and depression and all sort of the Issues that young people are dealing with today. We would go outside we would deal with the social You have to be social not on social. Yeah, exactly and that shapes you this is the most Influential impressionable time of your life Yeah, you know when you're 6 to 16, let's say. And when this new thing that never existed when we were growing up is just pumping stories, algorithms, weird stuff into your life every single day, dude, we have no clue.

Starting point is 01:14:56 So Rory, my nephew, has an Apple Watch. If he needs to call someone, Apple Watch. There it is right there. I'm sure there's people that are going to object to this. I'm sure social media companies are going to object to this. I'm sure there's people that are gonna object to this, I'm sure social media companies are gonna object to this, I'm sure there's gonna be backlash. But I gotta give credit to Ron DeSantis for a very good idea. So you know, I think the only thing is, for some people that use the technology

Starting point is 01:15:20 that's being managed by the parents, and they use it as an album to later on hand it over to them when they're of the age, if those things get taken down, it'll be interesting because that takes a long time to gather and put together. And, you know, again, I think it's extreme, but am I more this than against it? 100%.

Starting point is 01:15:42 It'll be very interesting for him to do this on who's gonna get upset about a decision like this being made when it's made. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. I mean, I'm not sure if you guys heard, PBD is pretty big on social media. You have kids, you have four kids, Brooklyn's running around the house being the boss. When are you gonna allow your kids to start doing stuff on social media? Like having a phone to do stuff on social?

Starting point is 01:16:06 All the above. All the above. No, no. There is no conversation about it. Dylan right now is convinced he's not getting to a phone until he's 16 years old. You ask Dylan right now what age he thinks he's getting a phone, it's 16 years old. Now are they probably gonna end up something earlier? Yes.

Starting point is 01:16:24 Social? Zero interest for anything to do with social. When I tell you zero, I mean zero interest for anything with social. I'm not even having a conversation until the age of 14. Zero. I'm not having that conversation until then. And even then I may skip it and go one more year and one more year and one more year. The hardest thing is for you, like the other day I love what Dylan said to one of his kids,

Starting point is 01:16:43 one of his friends. I'm around some of his friends and his friend's like listen this is how I did it your dad's eventually gonna give in okay and I'm listening he's gonna cave and Dylan says you don't know my dad I love that he said that to his friend. I'm super interested in your take on this specifically as the CEO of entertainment Your kids actually have a social media profile. 100% managed by me. That's what I'm saying.

Starting point is 01:17:08 It's my... So break that down for me. Yeah, I manage it myself. Because later on if they're gonna do something with sports, with movies, with docs, whatever it is, they're gonna be able to go back. And it's such an easy system to give them an album instead of my phone's got 60,000 pictures,000 pictures, you know, and you have to go through it.

Starting point is 01:17:26 I like what Apple does when you just kind of click on a face and are able to go see all the pictures by that person's face. And I like that. By the way, I don't even know why my phone has your face here. Check this out. Like I can go to your face. No, I literally have one that I go to. The other day I sent a video to Adam on Sunday morning.

Starting point is 01:17:41 I was surprised he texted back. I thought he'd be asleep. But so I like that. What time did I text you back? Pretty pretty early so that means you didn't party Saturday night what I had a triathlon on Sunday okay I swear whatever a triathlon not like a drinking thing well I mean girls or what's it three girls and alcohol or guys different day reveal my secrets I don't triathlon until just know that I'm screwing. I got probably the modern traffic just like you back in the day Tom Yeah, Papi Tomas

Starting point is 01:18:09 No Tomas okay alright, so let's go to the next story here next story Do we want to go to Diddy I think let's go to Diddy since we're already in Florida and the Santas is trying to get Social media to be banned so I don't know if Diddy would be supportive of this I don't know if Diddy would be supportive of this. I don't know if Diddy would be supportive of what DeSantis is doing with social media under the age of 14. I mean, I would never have met Justin Bieber. Let's read some of these stories.

Starting point is 01:18:31 Guys, very, very weird things happen. Rob, can you play this clip? Out of nowhere, federal agents raid Diddy's LA and Miami homes, okay? The searches are part of an ongoing New York criminal investigation into the entertainment industry inside of regarding allegations of sex trafficking. In an official statement, Homeland Security Investigations said it executed law enforcement actions as part of an ongoing investigation with assistance from HSI Los Angeles, HSI Miami and our local law enforcement partners.

Starting point is 01:19:03 This follows from a series of lawsuits from women allegedly that Diddy abused them. Diddy wielded tremendous influence in the entertainment business during the 1990s and 2000s and all the victims claim he abused his power towards sadistic ends, including violence, rape and emotional manipulation. In February, a music producer alleged in a lawsuit that combs coarsed her into having sex with prostitutes and By the way, there's if you got the video just to show the video and then I'll tell you what they found with his pride There's a bunch of things going on with this play this clip. Which house is this this perhaps being linked to a sex trafficking trafficking

Starting point is 01:19:56 I'll tell you why Two of his sons? That's Van Nuys. Two of his sons too? Really? Yeah, two of his sons got jacked up. Huh? That's him. That's his son. Why are they doing that to his son though? I mean, and think about it, helicopters, these guys, all the reporters that Pat were there before this happened, this is a whole, there's a lot of weird stuff happening. So the reporters were there before so they knew.

Starting point is 01:20:19 She even said it, she knew what was going on. Do they all know, they all know what's happening. But yeah, I'll let you finish. Alright, let me, let me. Because I have a couple of takes on give me permission to read this I'm so sorry come to you. Let me do that. Let me know that you need 15,000 Vinny stop interrupting Unusual suspects, okay video foot

Starting point is 01:20:40 Video never interrupt PBT on the sauce cap Never which I'll be speaking about did it for So video footage Christian and Justin combs and handcuffs Which is what you just saw right now, but did he's private jet track to the Caribbean island of Antigua Rob If you want to pull this one up Which did he's private jet Gulfstream 5 owned by love air LLC was tracked tracked to Antigua amidst raids on his LA home, and according to TMZ, the jet, which he has used for years, landed on the island, although it's unclear if Diddy was on board.

Starting point is 01:21:14 Despite the raids, Diddy was spotted at Miami Opaloka Executive Airport, Tom, we've used, obviously, pacing around the Customs Office. Reports suggest he was waiting on companions being questioned by federal agents. One source mentions, he was said to be never cuffed or taken into custody, the rates conducted by Homeland Security as part of a sex trafficking investigation. So Vinny, what do you have going on here? And again, this is all allegedly, just like when the terrorist attacks in Russia, everybody's like, it's this, you got to you got to wait.

Starting point is 01:21:45 You got to let the smoke clear and see what's happening. But if you were going to ask me, like it seems as if you know, the jet went to the islands. It's weird sex trafficking allegations, blah, blah. You go next to the islands where Epstein's island was. It's kind of weird, which it's the country has no extradition treaty with the US, so he can't get sent back here. But anyway, I think, this is me personally, people, when it's set up like this and they're grabbing people and the FBI and everybody's involved, I think people are looking for the tapes.

Starting point is 01:22:15 Okay, think about all the footage that Diddy has on all these huge public figures who have been at his home during all these types of sexual acts including mine Including minors and people are panicking remember the Rodney Jones story that we talked about PBD that bought it he brought him to court and was not disputed by anyone drugging minors blackmail sexual abuse money laundering sexual harassment I'm telling you right now with that type of like assault and that type of and they hit every single house They're looking for he's gonna be the fall guy they're looking for all the shit that he has just in case it comes out okay what you're saying is you're saying that this is more the powers that be this is more of a he's like an Epstein guy that's

Starting point is 01:22:59 held a lot of people being accountable because he has videotapes on them with hundred percent black it's it's it's he's the guy like he's the guy that had lot of people accountable because he has videotapes on them with... 100% black men. It's, it's, it's, he's, he's the guy, like he's the guy that had all the wildest parties. Think about this. He's the Epstein of, of, of hip hop. And all these fighters. And I'm telling you, since I was young on the East coast, he was that guy and he's been that guy forever. There's a really weird relationship and you guys could look it up. Clive Owen and him and all these people and all the deaths and all the Whitney Houston involvement when Whitney Houston came in and gave I think it was Jennifer Hudson a note and she

Starting point is 01:23:32 was trying to expose them and then she drowned killed herself whatever that you want to call it but I think it's a it's a black male operation but the question is for who like he didn't come up with this stuff by himself he's a puppet but who's a puppet master and who knows because they're not saying he's on that jet But what if they put all this shit all the tapes all the information on the jet and they got rid of it But it's weird to hit every single spot the same time Rob. Can you do me favor and Tom? I'm gonna come to your next on this Rob. Can you pull up for me? 50 cents Instagram account and then also if you can get that cat Williams video while you're doing that I'm gonna kind of show you guys a brief history of diddies history of controversies and allegations

Starting point is 01:24:09 This is according to Rolling Stones magazine. Okay, so CCNY tragedy 1991 celebrity basketball event organized by Combs at CCNY ends in tragedy with nine dead Overcrowding and inadequate security blamed comb settbs settles lawsuit with victims' families. Jake Robles shootings in 1995. Altercation outside Atlanta Nightclub leads to Robes' death implicating Combs and Suge Knight. Conflict in the county emerged, Combs denies involvement in the shooting. Attacking Steve Stout 1998 Combs assaults Steve Stout over dispute music video scene leading to criminal charges, Combs admits wrongdoing sentenced to anger management class. Club New York shooting 1999.

Starting point is 01:24:50 Altercation in Club New York results in gunfire, Combs and Shine implicated, Combs acquitted, Shine convicted, Combs accused of bribing his driver. Scuffle with J. Cole 2013 allegations altercation at MTV VMA party involves Combs, J. Cole and Kendrick Lamar conflicting reports about the cause. Both parties deny a physical fight. Next one. Allegedly punching Drake in 2014, dispute with Drake outside Live Night Club leads to alleged physical altercation. Combs denies punching Drake, maintains friendship.

Starting point is 01:25:22 Fights UCLA coach 2015 confrontation with UCLA coach leads to altercation during practice. Combs claims self-defense, no assault charges filed. Gina Huni alleges abuse 2019. Combs ex alleges physical abuse and mental manipulation during their relationship accusations of comparing her to Cassie and condoning abuse by Combs circle. Cassie files civil lawsuit against Combs in 2023 alleging rape abuse and intimidation by Combs Circle. Cassie files civil lawsuit against Combs in 2023 alleging rape, abuse and intimidation by Combs. Combs denies allegations, settles lawsuit for undisclosed amount. By the way, I'm not going to read all of this, I'll just tell you all of them.

Starting point is 01:25:53 Jane Doe sues for 1991 rape and revenge porn. Diddy faces third sexual assault suit in one week. This is 1990-1991. Third Jane Doe files lawsuit. Tiffany Redd writes an open letter corroborating Casey's allegations. Hulu scraps family's reality show. Cancels reality show. Featuring Combs and family amid sexual assault allegations.

Starting point is 01:26:14 Multiple companies sever ties with Combs project compared to keeping up with the Kardashians. Combs settles with Diago. Sean Combs sues for sexual assault by Love Album producer. Authorities raid Sean Combs'es for sexual assault by Love Album producer. Authorities raid Sean Combs' homes in Los Angeles and Miami. None of these stories even bring up the fact that we lost two of the greatest rappers of all time, Biggie and Tupac. Both goes back to last night at midnight, 1230, you know what video I'm watching?

Starting point is 01:26:40 I'm watching my interview with Greg Kating. Rob, I want to send this to you. With Greg Kating, when I showed Greg Kating, because my entire, any of these stories I've not followed closely, but if there's one story I followed, remember three people that events happened in high school that I clearly remember that impacted me as a kid. Magic Johnson getting gazed, Michael Jordan retiring, and Tupac dying. Those three events I clearly remember. When I think about Tupac dying, and as a guy just like somebody's curious about JFK assassination, I was curious about

Starting point is 01:27:11 what happened with this guy. Rob, I just send you the exact cuts that I have if you want to pull this up. I brought Greg Kating in to find out because I'm convinced based on my research. I'm not in this world. I'm purely curious, just like somebody is with JFK assassination. And who is he, Pat? Who is he? Greg Kating was the leading investigator behind trying to find out who killed Biggie and Tupac and then accidentally he finds out but they don't have enough intel and then they remove him from the investigation last minute and they're like, no, no, no, you can go work

Starting point is 01:27:44 on something else. Rob, if the video came in, if you can pull that up. There's just a lot of things with Diddy that, you know, while he's looking at that. And I wouldn't be surprised, but I would not be surprised if something happens in this thing. Because think about it, all the information, now all the stories, all these girls, everybody's coming forward. You're hearing about the Justin Bieber, so if now he's getting to a point, he has to be the fall guy.

Starting point is 01:28:07 You got to be the fall guy. They got to find all the evidence because it's a known fact that he recorded everything. Just like Epstein, and can you imagine Tom, you're hanging out and you get a phone call and you're, let's just say, like randomly speaking, you're Bill Clinton, who's been there 52 times and somebody goes hey Bill they they just arrested him and everything's gonna come out and he's gonna sing like a canary. Guess what you do? Suicide his ass in jail. That's what that's what happens and I think and Cat Williams I know we're gonna get there but Cat

Starting point is 01:28:38 Williams said it's there's God's side you're on that side or you're on the other side. Play this clip and that's what it is. Go to the other one. or you're on the other side. And that's what it is. And then we'll go to the other one. God's side and the other side. And we don't care nothing about the other side. Period. Period. All of these big deviance is all catching hell in 2024. It's up for all of them. It don't matter if you did it or whoever you is, TGJ, any of them, all lies will be exposed, that's all. And anyone who takes that the wrong way know why they take it the wrong way.

Starting point is 01:29:16 The truth is the light. The truth is the light! Amen, amen. This is, Rob, I don't know if the clip ever came through or not, if it didn't come through. Tom, what are your thoughts on this whole story here with Diddy? Well, there's a couple thing while I speak Robert. Excuse me, Rob. Can you look up Robert Kardashian suitcase? Oh, Jay Tom? He's looking for three other things right now. So But go ahead give your thoughts so

Starting point is 01:29:40 When OJ was arrested and there was this big scene at OJ's house, Robert Kardashian walks out of the house with a what's called a suit bag. Yeah. Right? After he got back from Chicago, right? Where OJ went to Chicago. The garment bag.

Starting point is 01:29:54 Yeah. Right? And so he's seen, that's it, right there, walking out in the garment bag and they believe that that was bloody clothes and a knife in there. Yep. And he was one of the attorneys, so he had the ability to walk into the house and leave. When I look at the plane, Diddy wasn't on the plane, but what was on the plane? Exactly. I want to know are there laptops or there hard drives? If Diddy's not on it,

Starting point is 01:30:15 something left from LA and went all the way to Intigua without stopping and Diddy was as they said, you know, pacing around Opa-elaka and the customs area so if if So just like this when people get busted There's people around you that are trying to protect you and are moving stuff. Maybe they love you Maybe they just work for you whatever, but I I might my big question here Okay, Diddy wasn't on the plane But who or what was something left LA and went all the way to the islands without stopping and right now It's like it's like smoke. There's fire

Starting point is 01:30:49 What happens is the longer you go in life the more enemies you make in in this sort of situation? And I believe Epstein had a long list of you know enemies and like that sign on the wall Epstein didn't hang itself. Yeah. And so I look at all that and right now I, my sense is that, and you know me, words talk, numbers scream, but my sense is he's had a long life of controversy and a lot of enemies. Do you think he's a, do you think he's a, a, a, not sloppy criminal, like a overly arrogant, untouchable, they can't do anything

Starting point is 01:31:28 to me type of a criminal where he's like, they can't do nothing. Like you know the type of guy that does the crime and then says nothing can happen to me, I'm untouchable. Like a Hunter Biden. Do you think he's convinced he's untouchable? Yes, because this is the psychological profile of most people over the course of their career How did they get the Teflon Don? How did they finally get they wired it? They wired They were but what was it tapes and what what years the last two years?

Starting point is 01:31:57 Yeah, when he was arrogant and he was sloppy and he said things and they got it on the wire tip Yeah, they didn't get a year or a year a lifetime of evidence on him They got the last two years where he was sloppy and arrogant because you've been going so long getting away with it You're not as careful as you were in the beginning and your enemies list is big Well, I appreciate the the OJ reference Tom because when I heard he was on a plane take it off to Antigua I was like, oh shit. I've seen this before. Yeah We'll see what happens like Bronco on my life for you. So if you recall this was about two weeks ago There were more stories that came out about Diddy. Yeah on the Tim Dillon podcast Vinny

Starting point is 01:32:38 100% guilty. I was like, yeah Tim Dillon quiet for whatever reason It's looking weirder and weirder and weirder But listen if you know anything about hip-hop if you know anything about rap, what's the record label that did he founded? He's a bad boy for life. He is we all know that yeah, what does that mean? Talk about Shug night talk about two parties against her. Could he end up on death row? Yeah record Yeah, we'll see what that's really exactly. So You know the me too situation, you know The reason that I wasn't like yo is definitely guilty is because there's a spectrum on this on one hand

Starting point is 01:33:14 You have the Harvey Weinstein stuff the Bill Cosby stuff the Jeffrey Epstein stuff You have okay, pretty fucking guilty. Yeah, and then you have the other stuff. That's like yeah, I don't know about that, bro Andrew Tate Johnny Depp innocent Russell Brand. I don't know what's going on there Yeah, so there's a slippery slope with this so you know on the Tim Dillon podcast. I was like look I'm not saying nothing. I've been to some of these diddy parties, but I'm not trying to catch a Invite here's the reality of what we don't know nobody knows I live in Miami. I've lived my entire life I've been involved in the who said said they're some of the diddy party. I have oh yeah Yeah, and I know girls that so I have first-hand knowledge from girls that are like Vinny

Starting point is 01:33:52 You have no idea and I was like, I don't want to know here's the deal I go to these parties in star island. I've been on star island before told that story about Demi Moore There are certain places you can go within the house, of course, or in the backyard where the party is. You don't get invited upstairs to the master bedroom. So you don't know just cause you went to a party. I've been to the Playboy Mansion a few times. I was like, Oh cool. The grotto going on. I'm like, Oh, what's up with the mansion? Yeah. You're not going in there, buddy. Sorry. So you don't know what's going on in there. I've gone out with the Serac guys the rock boys Plenty of times did he's been in the club plenty of times. You don't really know of course

Starting point is 01:34:32 What's going on behind the scenes what we do know is something very weird happened and went from startup to entrepreneur Do you remember you ever seen the video of what did he makes the calls the most famous video? Yeah, of course. You know, nobody could stop me. I want this like hungry Entrepreneur deals like dude, whatever he's on. I want some of that hungry adrenac Bible. There it is entrepreneur producer rapper Albie miss after Biggie mogul, sir rock billionaire and then Sexual deviant where did this all come in rapist sex trafficking? Where'd it all come in? I think you're right at sometimes at some point the power will go to your head by the way speaking of power

Starting point is 01:35:14 Do you know who did he's mentor is Clive Owen? No, oh Roll the tape Rob You've interviewed him. Who's the guy his mentor? Ray Dalio Really Ray Dalio is did he's mentor why how'd this happen? They were both on some list top hundred influential people whatever it was years ago So did he's real name is what Sean Holmes see? Diddy's real name is what? Sean Holmes. C. Dalio. D. They're next to each other in line to become friends. Look, I'm not saying anything that Ray Dalio did. Zero. I have no clue.

Starting point is 01:35:53 But Ray Dalio is his mentor. At some point, what kind of conversations they have. The bottom line is... Where are you going with all this? I'm trying to track, are we getting to a place? Were you naked in a room in a bedroom? Are you saying that Ray is linked to something with- I'm not saying that, but I'm saying- Like, I remember this interview. I watched this interview.

Starting point is 01:36:11 I think Ray is, like, Ray is one of the smartest guys when it comes down to money, and he's probably getting close to him to learn. Anybody would love to go and learn from a guy like Dalio. I don't put anything with Dalio on this list. And we had a very interesting conversation that was extremely heated, but I think he's nothing involved in that kind of a mentor. Financial mentor is different than life mentor.

Starting point is 01:36:37 I want to categorize that because there's a big difference. Fully embracing Dalio also raised $100 million from multiple celebrities to go on a fund. And so he sees a guy like that, hey, have you ever thought about investing in stable money? But are you are you anything else cuz I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm not correlating the two I'm just saying if someone is your mentor because you've been going for five minutes. I'm trying to see where else are we going? I'm sitting okay. No, but go ahead. So Ray Dalio. What else you have after Dalio? well Go ahead. So Ray Dalio, what else do you have after Dalio? Well, you call me off, I have no clue where I'm going at this point.

Starting point is 01:37:08 What I'm saying is... No, because when you're going, I'm trying to follow to see where you're going with your point because I'm trying to get, I'm trying to climax. And I feel like we're doing foreplay for six minutes. Like, let's go. I want some penetration here. Let me climax all over Danny right now. The reality is this. it's a spectrum.

Starting point is 01:37:27 When we talked about the Tim Dillon podcast, he was like 100% cool. I still believe it. Cool. In my mind, this is where I'm at and then Rob I sent you some results of a poll, this has now gone from being accusations, the Tate stuff, the sex trafficking stuff. We've all learned they hit you with the sex trafficking stuff, the sex trafficking stuff, we've all learned they hit you with the sex trafficking stuff, the sexual allegations stuff. Dude, these are two different stories. No, no, no, no. Where I'm going is this is now being categorized from the Tate stuff, the allegations, to full-on

Starting point is 01:37:57 Epstein type stuff. Something different has transpired. When all this goes down and your jet goes to an island that has no extradition to the US, you're telling people exactly what the hell's going him on it or not. You know what that means? We can't send for it That's whatever's there is gone. Yeah, by the way, I love the look what the audience says. I'm with them So in your opinion is did he guilty forty three hundred people voted one 55% 1% innocent innocent unto proving guilty The one percent but the point is the innocent unto proving guilty. You's why. His family is the one percent. But the point is the innocent until proven guilty, you're right.

Starting point is 01:38:26 Let's see what happens and let's prove it. This clip to me, if you can go Rob to the video with Greg Kating, and by the way, before you play this, can you go and type in Greg Kating so people can know who he is. Type in Greg Kating, go to his Wikipedia, okay. Greg Kating is right there, first account, zoom in. So here's who he is. American author, for example, he is LA Department Detective,

Starting point is 01:38:53 best on working on multiple law enforcement, investigative murders of rappers Tupac Shakur and Biggie in the mid-2000s. Many credit Greg Kating and his LAPD Task Force for 2023 arrest of Dwayne Keith D. Davis for the murder of 1996 Tupac Shakur. Guess who in the conversations allegedly offered Keith D. a million dollars to take out Tupac? Play the clip.

Starting point is 01:39:18 I believe behind all of this is Puffy. You've said this yourself with a million dollars, whether it was a million dollars, whether it was a half a million dollars. Tell us a little bit about that. What I believe happened with Puffy was that, again, I don't think he wanted this conflict to get worse than it already was. And if he could figure out a way to quell that, he would. In fact, we have a statement saying that Puffy had reached out to the

Starting point is 01:39:46 members of the Nation of Islam to approach Suge Knight and say, hey, let's have a peace treaty, let's squash this thing, but Suge wanted nothing to do with it. So he was trying to get out from under this imposing threat, knowing that Suge held him responsible for the murder of his friend, and whenever he would come to LA, he knew that Suge Knight was trying to hunt him down We have a reported incident an investigation where Suge Knight had accosted one of his associates at a Christmas party in Los Angeles And they beat the living shit out of this guy. He almost lost his eye in an attempt for these guys to Gain knowledge about where he lived in Los Angeles. So he undoubtedly becomes

Starting point is 01:40:26 aware of the fact that these guys are actively hunting me down, they're kidnapping, assaulting people, my life's definitely in harm's way. And so I think that out of that desperation and fear, he turned to the streets and said, can you guys kind of handle this for me. What does that mean? Because if you're going to deal with these gang members then the best thing to do is get their natural enemies to do the work for you. And is that the million dollars? Million dollars was on the? According to Keefe D. He says there is a kind of a loose conversations at Greenblatt's at Bunch on Set in which Puffy allegedly tells Keefe D,

Starting point is 01:41:10 listen, whatever it takes to get these guys off my back, I need you to take care of them. He says we wanted a million dollars, Diddy's like whatever. But again, I have to couch that with the understanding that he was in fear for his life. I fully get that. Yeah. I fully get that. But the million dollars is from him, but you don't know really if it's a million dollars or it's a half a million dollars. I think it's just boastful talking.

Starting point is 01:41:36 Okay, got it. You know, it's like I saw if I see a really nice car that I'd like to purchase from you, and I just, man, I'll give you a million dollars for that. Yeah. It's just that kind'd like to purchase from you, and I just, man, I'll give you a million dollars for that. It's just that kind of loose... So, how about the part where Zip gives him the gun, he says, listen, right now is the time to do it, everyone's in town, go to 662, here's the gun that I have, he leaves it to him with the car, he gives him the gun, and then afterwards, when they talk on a call, he says, was that us? And they're on the call together listening, and Zip says, yes, that was us.

Starting point is 01:42:07 Keefe says, yes, that was us. Yes, that was us. Keefe says, that was us. And then he says, we'll take care of the money. Six weeks later, he's not getting the money. And he's finding out maybe he didn't get paid. And then afterwards, he meets with an associate of Puffyitty, Puffy, saying, yeah, we did pay, but Zip kept it.

Starting point is 01:42:27 And then when they met, is that all been verified? So you see what happened right there. Maybe he did keep the money or they did not pay. So you can pause it if you want to watch the rest, but here's the point. The point is this. Who died first, Biggie or Tupac? Wow. Who died first?

Starting point is 01:42:41 Tupac, right? Tupac died first. In Vegas. So where is, where is Keith, where is he from, East Coast or West Coast? Wow. Who died first? Tupac, right? Tupac died first. In Vegas. So where is Keef, where is he from? East Coast or West Coast? Keef, is he from West Coast? Keef, Keef is, who called Keef?

Starting point is 01:42:54 Did he call him? Did he call Keef? Why did he call Keef? Why did he call Keef? Because he got in contact that this is the guy that could take him out and he's got a reputation for being involved in a lot of different things. Keef just went to jail. According to AP News. Can you go up? I think 2023 he went to jail, Rob. If you can go, when did Keef go to jail? Very recent, right? A couple months ago.

Starting point is 01:43:14 So here's a guy that goes to jail. Tupac, murder trial, delayed. Anyways, there's an AP News that Keef gets arrested. So, but why would Keef kill Tupac? Why would Keef go out there and why would he do that? Why would he go do something like that? Will he do it for free? What is his animosity? A guy like that is going to do a job like that based on what? Go to his profile. Okay, right there. Last living suspect of 1996 draw by shooting of Tupac Shul and died in Las Vegas on murder charge. But why would he do that? What's his motive money? It's either because two pox said something about him, which he didn't or it's because he's getting paid To go take somebody out. So who paid Keith? So why is Keith going? But the guy that paid Keith is not going

Starting point is 01:43:56 Where is that involvement? So my interest as much as these stories we read about I still want to know what happened to the greatest Rapper of all time and I'm not happy with what this guy did. I think he took out both. Again, I don't know the exact, it's my opinion. I think this guy, based on what I've read and the investigation I've done, I think he was behind both Biggie and Tupac. And that changed the dynamics of hip hop. And I don't know, I'm not a a I don't even follow any of these stories

Starting point is 01:44:25 my pure interest was what what he did to Tupac and Biggie and I'd like to get to the bottom of that because the guy's still around I want to know what this guy did to those guys yeah not a fan of what this guy did either by the way yeah just some food for thought about hip-hop like for our younger audience under 30 I don't know if you guys have any idea how big that East Coast West Coast beef was in the 90s. Communism had just felled. It was no longer communism versus capitalism. It was pre 2000. It wasn't as contentious as it was. Republicans and Democrats. That wasn't a huge narrative at this point. Eastern Western civilization,

Starting point is 01:45:02 clash of cultures wasn't a thing really until 2001 in the 90s East Coast West Coast beef Shug night ditty puffy to the source awards Yeah, come to death row. It was the number one beef in america It consumed us. Yeah, so everything that's going on there was the biggest story in the world at that point Yeah, so anyways and apparently the cia there's a big story that came out where the CIA was involved with making gangster rap gangsters So they would kill each other. That's that was a story. But anyway, look That's all the point is obviously we're watching all this stuff to see what's gonna happen with Diddy, but this guy's got a rap of just doing a lot of

Starting point is 01:45:44 Shady, I mean just it's it just unattractive and even the demeanor. It's not hard to watch someone's demeanor on how they behave, you know, and how they do certain things. We'll see. I mean, you know, again, innocent until proven guilty, but there's something going on right now. We'll see what happened there. All right, next story. Rob, can you pull up Baltimore? What happened with that bridge? There's a lot of weird things going on 1 30 in the morning today guys apparently allegedly a bridge collapses because a ship who is ran by some professional people

Starting point is 01:46:15 Runs into the bridge. Can you play this clip Rob on how the bridge comes down and in? Watch this here guys go back a little bit. Watch this. Boom. Slow motion. Oh my god bro. Bridge goes down. It's 40 degrees outside. That water is 30 degrees. Some are saying the bridge didn't hit anything. Some are saying it did. Even the captains that have been doing this for the longest time, Rob, what did they say with the experience that they have? You know, you were saying something, the fact that they've been doing this for the longest time, Rob. What did they say with the experience that they have? You know, you were saying something, the fact that they've been doing this route for a long time, the captain has been?

Starting point is 01:46:49 Yeah, I believe that Baltimore Harbor is their main harbor, so they navigate that daily. Then they navigate that daily, and this happened at 1.30 in the morning. The number that I saw, I think it was what? Let me read this number to you on what it was, 20 people. So, where's that story for Baltimore Bridge collapses? It says page five. I think it was what let me read this number to on what it was 20 people. So Where's that story for Baltimore Bridge collapses its pet says page five

Starting point is 01:47:16 Yeah, so video ship Dolly Rams into Francis Scott Key Bridge causing it to collapse per month prompting Maryland transportation authority to issue a warning against using the interstate 695 Kevin Cartwright was from Baltimore City Fire Department, describes it as a mass casualty, multi-agency incident with potential victims in the water. The bridge collapse disrupts both shipping and road transportation, impacting one of the busiest ports on the East Coast and severing a crucial link on the major highway in circling Baltimore. The vessel involved Dali, registered in Singapore, carrying approximately 4,900 containers, arrived at the SeaGrid Marine Terminal in Baltimore after delivery to port of New York, New Jersey.

Starting point is 01:47:48 The incident halts shipping operations, affecting the bus link port which in 2023 handled the highest volume of autos and light trucks in the US for 13 consecutive years. So kind of weird when you're seeing this. I think 20 people, can you find out how many people fell under water? I think 20 people, some people late at night is typically when they work on that bridge based on what I read earlier this morning. Do we have any stories on how many people fell under water? Is there like an update on the story? Vinny, what are your thoughts on this? I saw a couple of reports that this ship, it changed its course approximately two minutes

Starting point is 01:48:25 prior to hitting the bridge. The lights go out twice right before it goes on. Some people, I mean, again, we don't know, but some people are saying it could be a cyber attack. This is the most traveled cargo for like cars and all that stuff. This is going to disrupt this path horribly. Like, it's something at this magnitude It doesn't I don't I don't think this is like a whoops the guy the power went out and I just crashed into something

Starting point is 01:48:50 I think there's something deeper that's going on with this story. Well speaking of something deeper going on Who is the Secretary of Transportation? Pete Buttigieg Buttigieg Buttigieg so look Just had almost honestly the highlight of his career during the state of the union When Joe Biden singled him out and he was like, dude, you're killing it Like yeah, he booted judge had a big smile everything that's going on. Look All right. I'm sure there's a ton of stories to go here this situation here your story with East Palestine. I Want to I want to know what Pete Buttigieg has to say here.

Starting point is 01:49:29 If you ask any major major Biden supporter, give me his accomplishments. They'll always point to the bipartisan infrastructure deal. I don't know what's going on guys, but these things, they need to be looked at. You know what that reminds me of? You said it a couple weeks ago. Remember the beginning of that movie about Barack Obama and Michelle Obama? What was it? Leave the world behind?

Starting point is 01:49:51 What's it open with? The ship that's coming to it. The ship is just coming and people are like, what's happening? Because it was an attack, cyber attack. That right there looks to me, how does it just boom, change course, lights go out? That looks like, you nailed it to Adam. An infrastructure attack, that could be something that's set up by foreign agents. Who knows, bro?

Starting point is 01:50:09 That's really rare and random to see. You know, you can speculate and go down that path, and you can also just say, a great big ship, lost power, couldn't turn, and by the way, it takes forever to turn those big ships. Those big things, they're very, very slow, but it's like the the wheat and it takes a while to move a small boat that we go on right? Let alone a big ship that size and it hits it This is an older steel bridge with the steel infrastructure post, you know, they hit it they crumple it it goes down

Starting point is 01:50:42 I mean and look at the size of that thing It takes forever to turn that thing that we're talking something That's like 12 15 stories tall if you've ever been to a port and driven by Those car all those little squares that you see on that Those are the size of the back of a semi and you see though they get on the back of trucks and they go deliver Things this thing just ran right into the end of it, kvunk. And so is it as simple as they lost power, they couldn't turn, and oh crap, they hit a bridge.

Starting point is 01:51:13 You know, is it that simple or is there, oh, it was an electrical pulse and it affected their GPS? Okay, well where are the rest of the boats running into things, if that's what's going on? If there is a, you know, I things if that's what's going on if there is a you know I want to wait and see what's going on here You make a really good point the real issue is there were eight people Innocently working last night on a evening shift and six of them are missing in the water and families are asking

Starting point is 01:51:37 You know, where's our where's our loved one? I mean Rob did people did you say something? I just saw you had a Pete Buttigieg video. I can't verify that this came out today, but there is video of Pete Buttigieg talking about how bridges are racist. Oh yeah, I love this. How what? He said bridges in the East Coast. This came out a while ago, so let's see how racist this bridge was. An underpass was constructed such that a bus carrying mostly black and Puerto Rican kids to a beach or it would have been this is In New York was designed to low for it to pass by but that obviously reflects racism that went into those design choices There's a part of it that he's actually right because this is about the book written by it was that power broker name in New York Tom Do you know I'm talking about The power broker in New York. What

Starting point is 01:52:25 was the guy's name? Robert Morris or something like that. It's Robert Moses in the fall of New York. What he's talking about is about the power broker. It's a different bridge. He's talking about how they try to keep people away from certain communities by keeping the bridge so low that it couldn't go under. There is actually some credibility. So they couldn't bust children this way and that way. He's actually pretty accurate on that part. All you have to do is read this book and you'll see this guy was maybe the most powerful man in New York ever that wasn't actually the governor.

Starting point is 01:52:55 But, okay, so that's the Baltimore. Unfortunately, hopefully we'll get a little bit more story on what's going on with that there. Let's go to the next story. Otani. Little weird on what's going on with that there. Let's go to the next story. Otani. A little weird on what's going on with Otani. So here's a guy that gets a $700 million contract from the Dodgers. Tom is sitting there thinking the Dodgers are going to win back to back to back to back to back.

Starting point is 01:53:19 You call me crying. With an incredible organization and people that they've put together. And then this weird story comes out with Otani and the Interpreter and it's changed so many times Otani denies betting on baseball Saddened shocked by the scandal. Okay saddened shocked by the scandal Categorically denies involvement in sports betting asserting. I have never bet on baseball or any other sport He may be right, maybe he did through somebody else's, what a lot of people are saying, and expresses profoundly dismay stating I'm very saddened and shocked that someone

Starting point is 01:53:52 who I trust has done this. Otani refutes allegations made by his former interpreter, Ipe Mizuhara, labeling them as a complete lie and stresses I never agreed to pay off this debt or make payments to the bookmakers the scandal triggered by massive theft from Otani's bank account prompts a formal investigation by Major League Baseball with Otani affirming I'm going to let my lawyers handle this from here on out and pledges full cooperation with the ongoing inquiry. Tom. So there's a couple angles here. So you get this player and

Starting point is 01:54:25 he has an interpreter and the one thing that is not in dispute here and there were people with the Angels that said that Mizuhara liked to play tables and he liked to do things and so Mizuhara has a gambling issue. Mizuhara getting like 80 to 100 hundred grand a year paid by the angels and then the Dodgers to be an interpreter. And Bobby, there's a lot of interpreters in major league baseball. There's Spanish interpreters. There's all kinds of them for players that are not yet bilingual. Vinnie had an interpreter in his famous clip. Yep. Ms. Zuhara as a gambling issue, he's got a friendship that

Starting point is 01:55:06 truly developed with Otani and Ms. Zuhara said, I asked him if he would pay off my, my marker. I gave a several million dollars and you know, like three and a half, $4 million. I think the total number was. And so apparently over a course of weeks 500,000 at a time which was the max for a wire transfer, which is also confirmed that that was the max went from Otani's account to a bookmaker so option one Otani felt bad for his interpreter who now he has a friendship with and paid his gambling debt By the way, that's happened before with a lot of people However in baseball you're supposed to be like light years away from the gambling establishment. So there's option one option two

Starting point is 01:55:56 Mizohara and Otani were gambling together and Otani was paying for their bets Option three is Otani said, hey, the guy got close to me and has paid off his gambling debts. It's a lie. So the one in the middle is missing. What we're having here is Mizuhara says, my friend paid off my debts. Otani is saying, no, I found out later that he got access to my account and he transferred it. The problem I have with Otani's story, Pat, is it was multiple transfers over three weeks. And what is he gambling on? Like I get it.

Starting point is 01:56:37 So if you stole it from somebody, wouldn't you notice or the business manager say, hey Otani, what did you buy? You buy another Ferrari? Why? 500,000 just went out. Oh, there it goes again. 500,000 went out. She noticed or the business manager say hey, Otani. What'd you buy you buy another Ferrari? Why? 500,000 just went out there it goes again 500,000 went out wait. It's three and a half now are you making payments on a on a Varun no yeah, so Otani is saying nope my lawyers will talk to Major League Baseball. I want nothing to do with this I'm here to play ball and This guy stole from me. Ms Mizohara says wait a minute

Starting point is 01:57:06 I'm just saying that I had a gambling problem and Otani paid my bets and We're gonna find out hopefully from Major League Baseball However, Major League Baseball doesn't have the best track record with gambling no no Major League Baseball is very good at protecting Major League Baseball Major League Baseball frequently leaves players and owners out No, no major league baseball is very good at protecting major league baseball major league baseball frequently leaves players and owners out swinging in the wind when things happen and sometimes take steps that are Kind of outside the lines. I mean we've seen that happen So I think there's something that's really got to come out here and my gut Pat My gut is that the Mizahara story is probably the one.

Starting point is 01:57:46 Hey man, you gotta help me with my bets. We've been friends like eight years and everything. What? Oh my gosh, this is expensive. Well, I'll transfer it for you. I can only do $500,000 at a time. Got it. I pay it off.

Starting point is 01:57:57 Yeah. What do you think? So you make very good point. There's a couple weird things here when you look at this. And I was looking at a bunch of different things I'm reading a bunch of different things. Oh Tony First of all says he doesn't speak English, but he does okay. So the interpreter is there but he speaks English So you got Rob you can Google this and say does Otani speak English. He actually does speak English choppy

Starting point is 01:58:21 But yes, yeah, the interpreter says he went to UC Davis and got a degree there, but no, he never went to UC Davis to get a degree. The interpreter. That was fabricated. So it's not true. Right here, there's a story from Sports Illustrator. Ohtani can't speak English, but he is more comfortable in his first language. Normally he has his interpreter with him whenever he addresses a more American audience.

Starting point is 01:58:43 However, during his acceptance speech for his MVP award last night, Otani surprised everyone and spoke in English. And by the way, that was two months ago when he said that, right? Next, these two have been friends since they were kids. Like literally, they've been friends since they were kids. And Otani, strangely so, was at the March Madness game in 2019. That is five years ago, right? So why was Otani at March Madness game in 2019. That is five years ago, right? So why was Otani at March Madness game in 2019?

Starting point is 01:59:07 Some are saying, well, you know, March Madness is all about gambling and maybe he has this and he has that. Okay, no problem. That's totally fine. Last but not least, the way to look at it, Pete Rose reacted to this. Rob, do you have the clip of Pete Rose reacting to this? If you don't, let me send it to you. You should be able to find it on Twitter. If you just type, right, that's the one right there. Go ahead and play that clip. Watch this. If you don't, let me send it to you. You should be able to find it on Twitter.

Starting point is 01:59:25 If you just type, right, that's the one right there. Go ahead and play that clip. Watch this. Hey guys, Matt Thrash here enjoying some March Madness with my great friend Pete Rose. And we just had a, we were talking about the current goings on in baseball right now and Pete wanted to mention something. Well, back in the 70s and 80s, I wish I had an interpreter. I'd be scott free. There you have it.

Starting point is 01:59:50 So here's now where Major League Baseball is in a pickle, okay? Because you potentially have the modern day Babe Ruth. Closest thing we've ever had to Babe Ruth is Ohtani. The guy can pitch and win a sayong and the guy can hit and potentially win a triple crown. This is a very weird type of an athlete once in a lifetime. So guess who doesn't want to lose a guy like this? The Major League Baseball doesn't want to lose a guy like this. So if you investigate this and all of this stuff comes true that he did, what are you gonna do then? Are you

Starting point is 02:00:26 going to suspend them for a season and have the league lose them for a season? Maybe, maybe not. What did you do with the Houston Astros? Did you ever take the World Series away from them? No, no they didn't. You never did, right? You punished two coaches and let the owner go. And all the players. Everybody. And he knew, right? What did Aaron Judd say about that?? What did Aaron Judge say about that? What did Dodger players say about that? What was their reaction? Because Yankees were like, dude, that should be ours, right?

Starting point is 02:00:49 100%. The Dodgers couldn't even argue that that should be ours, and you know they were cheating. Nothing. They moved on now. Power to the Astros. Respect to them. They came back and they won afterwards saying, no, we are really a good team. You got to salute and say, great.

Starting point is 02:01:02 You proved your argument. Whatever. A couple of guys left, but for the most part, the little guy who... Al Tuve. Al Tuve. 100% cheater. Yeah, 100% cheater, but he won a couple. He won once cheating, and he won once not cheating.

Starting point is 02:01:13 So it is what it is. But this could be a little bit tricky, because if they know all of this stuff happened and everybody else knows and they do nothing to Otani, Otani may be the reason why Pete Rose ends up in a Hall of Fame. Oh, that'd be so great. That would be the weirdest thing on where the MLB has to sit there and say, hey, you're going to do this, but you're not going to put Pete Rose, the all-time hits leader in the history of baseball that would always jump and slide and face first.

Starting point is 02:01:46 You're not going to put that guy in there? Okay, what's the difference? But there's a lot of weird things going on with this. I'm very curious to know how Manfred's going to handle this entire situation. Adam? Here's my biggest beef with the MLB. Now I do not even watch baseball at this point. I love basketball.

Starting point is 02:02:01 That's what I watch. I watch some football. Maybe I'll watch a World Series. Growing up, dude, 86 Mets, forget about it. I love basketball. That's what I watch. I watch, you know, some football. Maybe I'll watch the World Series growing up Dude 86 Mets forget about it. Okay, then I grew up in Miami Marlins to World Series New French amazing Since the steroids era

Starting point is 02:02:21 Arguably Dozens and certainly top five players are not in the Hall of Fame. Pete Rose is a top 10 player of all time, not in the Hall of Fame. Barry Bonds is a top five player all time, not in the Hall of Fame. Mark Maguire, what they did for the sport with Sammy Sosa during that home run race, what was that, 1998? Ridiculous. Raphael Palmer, we had Roger Clemens here on the podcast. I don't think he's in the book and Hall of Fame

Starting point is 02:02:50 Yeah, is not no, he's not okay. These are the greatest players of our generation They've signed our walls here not in the Hall of Fame Pete Rose Should be in the Hall of Fame. So let's say he is found guilty of something He is arguably the Babe Ruth of this generation hitter pitcher beast Now this guy doesn't go in the Hall of Fame something's very weird with baseball very freaking weird that the best players All right, so there you have a time final thoughts baseball I think we gotta let it play out and this is the this is when sports gets dirty Which is incredibly disappointing, but we're gonna let it play out on a good note on the other side Trevor Bauer is

Starting point is 02:03:34 Is making progress he had a game recently where he went up against the Facing the Yankees obviously it's not major league baseball, but he was pitching 96 98 mile an hour pitches, nasty slider, three scoreless innings, and he's trying to prove a point. Listen man, put me in coach, I'm ready to play. Pay me the minimum, $720. Just give me a shot. And I know a couple of teams, I know one specific team that would benefit from having a guy

Starting point is 02:04:03 like this on their team, but we'll see. We'll see what's going to happen there with that. Let guy like this on their team, but we'll see. We'll see what's going to happen there with that. Let's move on to the last story before we wrap up. Okay, so Daily Wire announces that they fired Candace Owens. Commentator Candace Owens is fired with Jeremy Boring puts the tweet out there that this announcement was made and the world lost their minds. And some say, well, we knew this day was coming.

Starting point is 02:04:29 There's no way in the world this was going to be kept the way it was, the way it was handled, wasn't fair, wasn't this, wasn't that. But let me kind of read it to you here. There will be no more Candace Owens at Daily Wire amid claims the conservative commentator promoted anti-Semitic rhetoric. This is New York Daily News, by the way. The right-wing political website announced Friday it has severed ties with Owens, known for support for Trump and Kanye West, famous for their own controversial comments.

Starting point is 02:04:55 Daily Wire and Candace Owens have ended their relationship. Co-founder Jeremy Borenk wrote on social media, and Owens puts out there saying, I am finally free, she said in recent months Owens cited a firestorm of backlash with her anti-semitic commentary about the United States role in the ongoing war Look at the words. They're using They love that Owens also floated claims that with a small group of Jewish in Hollywood and Washington DC were involved in something sinister Okay So now Newsweek keep keep in mind how they're all reacting to this. Candice Owen says she cannot be silenced after the Daily Wire exit. Daily Wire CEO blasts Candice Owen after Christ is King.

Starting point is 02:05:31 This was a little bit of a weird tweet, Rob. Can you pull this up of Jeremy Boring that Christ is King and is this the one? Yeah, so how is saying Christ is King anti-Semitic, says the CEO Jeremy Boring of Daily Wire. We've had him on. I actually really enjoyed the conversation we had. The same way anything becomes anti-Semitic when it is used for the purpose of expressing anti-Semitism. It's like asking how does a shovel become a murder weapon when it is used to murder someone.

Starting point is 02:05:58 This isn't hard. A shovel is not innately a murder weapon. Saying Christ is king is not innately anti-Semitic. It's all about how a thing is used. Saying eat some cornbread is not racist. If I say to my three-year-old when she is refusing a dinner, if I start saying it to a response on X post by black commentators I don't like, it has taken on a meaning beyond what is innate. In other words, it is connotatively racist, not denotated, so to Christ this King may

Starting point is 02:06:33 be anti-Semitic in connotation while not in denotation, when it is used to express anti-Semitism. When did this become so? It has always been so. It is so, yes and nate. Additionally, St. Christ this King for an evil purpose, like using it as a weapon to express you. I mean, it's just like, you could have stopped a long time ago. That's asking Chad GBT.

Starting point is 02:06:54 So, that's asking Chad GBT. Anyways, I haven't commented on this. I'll give my thoughts here. Vinny, what are your thoughts about what's going on here with David Warren and Candice Warren? I just think, like you said, the moment and listen, let's all be honest with each other I still to this day have now found one person one person not one that can have any critical like negative thoughts about what's happening with Israel and Palestine and not be thrown under the bus and considered an anti-semitic

Starting point is 02:07:20 It's it's as if Israel Can't do anything wrong. And if you do say one thing about Na'anyahu, or you say something about the tactics, it's automatically you're anti-Semitic. What's happening like that Rabbi Shmuley, who is just the more and more he speaks, the more and more like people are turning away. Like look at this embarrassed. This is the video that he made.

Starting point is 02:07:44 Okay, by the way, he's a rabbi, and I wanted to ask you, Adam, because I literally, genuinely have zero idea. I'm a Christian. Our priests are, you know, they're not allowed to be involved with writing sex books or selling lubes or whatever the hell his sex is. This is what he does. Hi, everybody. Purim is a day of celebration. We feel bad for Candace Owens that she lost her job. So I figure with her image of what Jews are supposed to look like, why not at least validate her? I am dressed up as a Candace Owens Jew.

Starting point is 02:08:17 Now this is not a Christian child, this is a Jewish child. But if it would be, I got my Christian blood. Mmm, spicy, delicious. What a disgusting guy. I got my Jewish nose. I have filth, because Jews are all filth. And more than anything else, I have a beard. I have a beard. I spicy, delicious. I got my Jewish nose. I have filth, because Jews are all filth. And more than anything else,

Starting point is 02:08:30 what does Aini have? Money! Yeah, we Jews are all about money! All about the Benjamin's. Wait, I'm getting a little bit thirsty. Where's the matzah? I don't want to finish the whole thing and not mix it into the

Starting point is 02:08:45 Matzah so can someone just bring me she did say one second she did say that I was getting It's kind of disturbing you go on the bottom on the clip there's videos of him grinding a 12 year old boy Sitting on top of grinding boys like those kids What do you think those kids are are are saying and thinking and it's like bro if you followed what Candice was saying if you Followed this entire story all she was asking was questions and she was also saying you know what what's going on? When is enough enough how many innocent children have to die the fight that this guy's been going after Candice because again you cannot Say anything you cannot pull up the clip of how this got started. I think this got started with Ben Shapiro being recorded on camera. Standing on the table. I don't know.

Starting point is 02:09:31 Can you pull up that clip? I think that's how this whole thing started. I don't know if you'll find it or not. While you're looking for that, Tom, what are your thoughts about this here? So I don't want to talk about that rabbi and that disgusting you know caricature that he portrayed there. If anybody did that about any other group in any other way you'd be subject to such such response and even attempts to cancel and all that. So let's set that aside. I mean I look at it this way. Jeremy and Ben run a media company

Starting point is 02:10:05 They're the bosses They employ Candice Candice does her shows Jeremy and Ben have positions on things in their media company Candice ends up counter to Ben on some positions The CEO can say you know what Candice you have the freedom to say what you want, but on our show here on that I disagree with you. And you know what, I disagree for the following reasons. You know what, maybe this isn't the best place for you. Happens at Salem

Starting point is 02:10:37 broadcasting. It happens at a lot of places. That's how Rush Limbaugh ended up on his own network. This happens in media all the time Good CEOs go behind closed doors and sit down with people and say maybe this isn't working out Maybe we shouldn't do this. Why don't we why don't we take care of it like this? instead I fall Ben You're the founder or co-founder whatever you and Jeremy refer to that as and you were the CEO or are the CEO or have the influence of the CEO and you make a comment about what are your employees in a public way and Suddenly you spark and this thing spills out in public and I don't think that that was particularly good management

Starting point is 02:11:22 And I don't think that was particularly good leadership and it ends with the employee leaving. I kind of boil it down that simple path. And what about and what about Tom when she says Christ is King? Where do you see the anti-semitism no matter how she did? All she did was pull the rest of the sub points how they play out it's gonna be oh well that's like this or this is like that that's like this once you play it out and you start what I call phrase picking and saying, well, that on that day and that way was anti-Semitic, or this in this day wasn't very nice,

Starting point is 02:11:52 or this on this day wasn't supportive of leadership. You know what no one is saying? No one's backing up and saying, hey, Ben, hey, Jeremy, you're running a company. Aren't you the leaders? Why are you doing this thing in public? If you want to build your media company and build things what you stand for? You've got you've had some really good films and come out making very important points

Starting point is 02:12:11 Why don't you guys just kind of calm down go behind closed doors and have a conversation with each other and figure it out Why spill this out in public like so so Rob if you if you can play? The first clip if you have this one play this, because this is how it starts, right? Play this. It's not full sophistication, it's ridiculous. Everybody can see the moves that she's making and the things that she's saying and it's kind of distract you. So, Dan, right after this, comments are made the next day she's on Tucker Carlson. And this wasn't obviously planned. You don't just go on Tucker Carlson the next day because Tucker's got a schedule, she's

Starting point is 02:12:57 got a schedule. This was probably booked six weeks or two months in advance. Like we had Dave Rubin the other day, the day before. The market's like, oh, did Dave reach out to come on today? No, we had Dave booked how many weeks prior to that, Rob? It was a while, about a month. About a month prior to that, that he was booked and he came with the calendar.

Starting point is 02:13:14 Play this clip here with Candice. Call somebody, quote, absolutely disgraceful, particularly a coworker, seems like a pretty big step. And I really don't know the background here. What is that about? You know, there isn't much of a background. I saw the video when everybody else saw it when I woke up No one he no one warned you about it. Nobody warned me about it

Starting point is 02:13:29 I it looks like maybe he didn't know he was being recorded it was some sort of a private event I got no clarity on the issue that he was particularly speaking on and in what was said I Also, I can't respond to it beyond what he's saying because it's just at home in attacks I don't know because it's not you know we disagree or I you know I don't think she's correct or maybe she doesn't know what she's talking about. It's absolutely disgraceful. Yeah, exactly.

Starting point is 02:13:48 And so I can't respond to it on a level of intellect because there's nothing that he has expressed in that, at least in that short clip that he fundamentally disagrees with in terms of what I said, but I will say that I'm not gonna respond with the same ad hominid attacks. I don't think it helps further discussion. And if that was me that was caught on a video

Starting point is 02:14:03 saying that about colleagues that I work with, I would be I would so I think that the video speaks more to Ben's character that speaks to mine has he texted you to apologize or explain or anything no nothing I haven't heard a single word it just was sort of something that he said and you know what Ben I made an agreement so I don't think that that's particularly something that's interesting um we disagreed on the COVID vaccine we disagree on Ukraine and Russia he has taken virtually every stance has been the opposite of mine on every issue over the last five years So I don't think that that's pretty remarkable. I didn't remember that. Yeah, he was pro the COVID vaccine I'll give my thoughts

Starting point is 02:14:32 And an atom I'll come to you. Sure. Okay, so here's here's kind of how I process this I Enjoy watching Candace a lot. I enjoy watching Tucker and I enjoy watching Ben Shapiro There's been things I've agreed and disagreed on with everybody when you see something like this happen You don't want to see something like this happen But it's from from more the strategic standpoint when I watch this I see a couple different things one is The way the way this was handled with Candice saying what she said and then, hey,

Starting point is 02:15:10 privately calling them out, calling around disgraceful at an event, and you guys disagree on certain issues politically, okay, no problem. There's nothing wrong with that. That's okay. If you got, we sit here on the podcast today, me and Adam disagree, and then Adam and Vinnie will disagree. Adam and, you know, Vinnie may, whatever it is, we'll have the podcast today, me and Adam disagree. And then Adam and Vinnie will disagree. Adam and Vinnie may disagree. Whatever it is, we'll have the disagreements, we'll hash it out, we'll move on and it's totally fine. Ben Shapiro, to me, like I said, to Dave Rubin is the number one voice for the Jewish community worldwide.

Starting point is 02:15:36 I don't think he's got a louder voice. Nobody's got a louder voice than he does. Very influential. But Jeremy Boring, you know, it's a different story if the CEO, Jeremy Boring, putting himself in a position like this that he defends automatically Ben Shapiro and the positions she takes with Christ as King. There are so many different elements here to unpack. Christ as King, okay, people can have differences in their faith.

Starting point is 02:16:05 You can have a difference in your faith on what you think with Jesus, what you think with Jews, Christians, Scientology. I was in an office for three years and I was working with half the office, we're all Scientologists. I was in another office where everybody was Mormon, LDS, Joseph Smith, Book of Mormon, everything we talked about was that, and we were able to coexist. There is nothing wrong with that if debate is the issue. The position Daily Wire took, which is gonna be very interesting to see

Starting point is 02:16:32 how that whole organization's gonna react to it, Jeremy Boring's moves are coming across more as being a manager to Ben Shapiro and only Ben Shapiro than a Dana White being put in a position to manage and drive a company. Now, if he makes this decision as the CEO, I don't know if they have a board, I don't know if the board has a voice, I know the Wilkes Brothers who are this billionaire family that have been investors in their organization, they've been investors in PragerU, their organization, they've been investors in many different organizations.

Starting point is 02:17:07 Their faith, if I'm not mistaken, the Wilkes Brothers, Rob, if you can pull them up, I think they're one of those, what's that, not Seventh-day, but Tom, you know the Jews for Jesus organization which they're... Oh, Messianic? It's called the Assembly of Yahweh, Seventh-day, which... Seventh- Day Adventists, which they are Jews for Jesus type of an organization, which these are the founders, these are the investors that are within the organization. When you make a position like that and you're defending Ben Shapiro the way you did and

Starting point is 02:17:39 you're obviously going against anybody that says Christ is King and one of their talents comes out three days ago, I don't know what his name is, he makes a video saying Christ is King is anti-Semitic. Rob, if you have that clip, if you, I know you have this clip, if you can send it to Rob, you watch all of this stuff. This is the one, if you can play this clip, you go out and play this clip. What is his name? Claiborne? When I did this, by the way, the priest who baptized me said, you know, Christians won't accept you, you'll still be a Jew. And I said, well, I am, that's my race. I'm a Jew, I'm proud of my race.

Starting point is 02:18:08 It's a great race, has done many, many great things, including write the Bible. And, you know, I am a Jew, but that hasn't happened at all. Christians have welcomed me with open arms, except this Christ the King anti-Semitic crowd. Christ is the King, and one day every knee will bow and recognize it because he's not just my king, he's king of the universe. But when you use that phrase to mean that God has abandoned his chosen people, the Jews, through whom he came into this world incarnate

Starting point is 02:18:38 and that he's broken his promises, his covenant with the Jews, you are quoting scripture like Satan does in the Bible. You're quoting scripture. What are you even? Let me tell you, that is super heavy. Oh my God. That is super heavy when you make a comment like that. And by the way, you know where this goes? Let me tell you where this goes. So, it would have been different if Jeremy takes a position to say, yeah, we have different denominations here, everybody has the right

Starting point is 02:19:01 to defend whatever faith and religion they have. And, you know, and by the way, this guy used to be the pastor for I think the, what is the Republican club in Hollywood, Tom? In Friends of Abe? Friends of Abe. I think he was one of the founders and he was the pastor of that group, if I'm not mistaken, Jeremy Boring. With Kelsey Grammer. Yes.

Starting point is 02:19:20 I mean, Jeremy Boring is a, within this space, he's a heavyweight on what he did. If you go, executive director Jeremy Boring, I think he was their pastor, so Christian, he's well-read on the faith and all this other stuff. So I don't know, when you handle it that way, what you're pinning your brand as is, I will 100% defend Ben Shapiro and that is it. And it's going to be very hard for other people who want to coexist. Now they may well sit there and say We can lose everybody but as long as we have me and Ben we're gonna be alright, and we'll go to the very end great

Starting point is 02:19:52 It's gonna be tough to have other people want to coexist if you brand yourself that way It's very difficult now They may also look at Candice because if you look at their lineup Ben is considered an intellect Jordan Peterson considered an intellect right a lot of these guys may be considered an intellect. Maybe to them, they don't view Candace as an intellect. Maybe they look at Candace and say she lacks intellect. She is not as scholarly, educated on the history of this and this and that and pa-pa-pa-pa-pa and you know, then that's who it is. Well, I think America probably relates more to somebody like her and everybody

Starting point is 02:20:27 else who thinks they are the intellect because that is a form of being an elitist if you think everything you do is right and you're not willing to have those types of conversations with others. So I actually don't know the decision they made. However here's how business works Tom, you and I know this. If your decisions say whatever number they have, you know a lot of people online are throwing around a number that their top line revenue is $200-$250 million per year, okay? It's a real business. $250 million per year, no problem.

Starting point is 02:20:55 They got a lot of big projects going on. I think most of them are committed for movies, this, this and that. Okay, no problem. Everyone's going to see the effect of Candace Owens, what it's going to cost in subscribership, in dollar amount, in revenue. Maybe they're right. Maybe she's right. Market's going to decide. But if you make too many decisions like this and it's one-sided and you oust the other side, it feels like if I'm going here, I can only be on one side and if I'm not, I'm not safe because

Starting point is 02:21:25 I could go somewhere else. Again, the series of the way they made their decisions is questionable, but every time you run a business, I'm also on the other side when I run a business and every decision we make, it's easy to target, hey, look at what they did with the insurance company, look what they did and Pat's wrong and this is why they're losing, people are leaving, da-da-da. insurance company, look what they did and they go, Pat's wrong and this is why they're losing and people are leaving. It's so easy to also take shots while you're actually a person running the business. It is very hard to run a company.

Starting point is 02:21:52 It is very hard to start a company and grow to $250 million, whatever the top line revenue is and have the employees, especially in a space that you're giving your opinions. It has got to be super hard and you're constantly gonna be having shots being taken at you But that's the job you chose to have the market will look at you and see if you think this was the right decision to make Let's see how the market reacts to it and they will with numbers with subscribers and dollars And that's the market and I'm I've looked at I've been very clear Daily wires made some great content great films that I think need to be made that are very helpful to their audience What I look at is the how and Pat I've watched you over the years. You've had very difficult

Starting point is 02:22:33 Discussions have had to happen with some sales leaders I've never seen you put out a tweet that like rip somebody up or or or call them publicly disgraceful I've seen you take names out of it and speak to a sales meeting. You know, some of you I'll be speaking to because we need to make the company better and I don't think you're as good as you can be. I've heard you say things like that. That's a general statement where everybody sits back there, boy, I hope that's not about me. Maybe I should reflect on how I'm doing. And then I've seen you in private at private meetings, sit down with people, no microphones, no camera, and look somebody in the eye and say, what are you doing?

Starting point is 02:23:07 What was this all about? And then take them through the facts. How do you think that looks to your team? How do you think that looks to other people? How do you think that reflects on the company? Those are best done privately to move a company forward. And I think the leadership, if I was Ben, I wouldn't have done it that way because you're in a media company. It's going to explode and you can have those conversations quietly see the difference is Tom. I'm okay with Ben saying that

Starting point is 02:23:31 I'm actually okay with what Ben said because you know what it's been as from Ben says Ben says Number one priority in my life is my faith and I'm a Jew. That's my number one priority. It's Israel It's my faith. It's where I stand. Fine. I have no problem with that, right? Number two is my conservative beliefs, etc., etc., where I'm at. Number three is daily wire and the other talent. Obviously you can put family in there as well. I'm taking family out. But that's how it is. No problem. You can do that. If you, the guy that's running the business, then can kind of bring everybody together to dinner, that's a part of your job to do the dinner and nobody needs to know.

Starting point is 02:24:09 And by the way, maybe they had the dinner. Maybe Candice and George had dinner with Ben and his wife and everybody's around and sitting there talking and saying, guys, what's on your mind? What's going on? Well, look, here's where he stands. Here's where she stands. Can we coexist? Can we coexist?

Starting point is 02:24:21 Because at the end of the day, guess who's the enemy? The enemy is not Daily Wire. The enemy is not Candice. The enemy is not Candice. The enemy is not Ben Shapiro. The enemy is what the manipulation is taking place amongst your kids on what they're doing with religion, with faith, with families, with policies, with border. That is the enemy. Can we unify against the real enemy?

Starting point is 02:24:38 If then one says, nope, this is where I draw the line, you screwed up, I'm done with you, then we got to make a decision, right? And if that meeting's been had, guess what? Salute, good for Jeremy for having that. But if that meeting's not been had, and maybe they're having it right now, I don't even know what's, but the point is it's a little bit strange, but the market will react and we'll see what they're going to say. See what they're going to say.

Starting point is 02:25:02 Adam? All right, well, we've spent some good amount of time with Candice and let me just say off top I've enjoyed my time with Candice. I thought she was great. We've done content. We've done interviews. We did the live podcast Really enjoy Candice She has problems with cert individuals Not groups and I think that's an distinguishment Everyone needs to made I often say some some my favorite people in the world are Jews Some of the least favorite people in the world are Jews some my favorite people in the world are Mexicans least favorite

Starting point is 02:25:33 Mexicans goes down the list Muslims Arabs Christians Catholics all that they have problems in individuals The thing with Ben and Candace you would have said a Syrian or Armenian We should have been ugly real Right we all know about the Assyrians. They're very hospitable and hung but We all like so stupid just finish the private We've all seen relationships that publicly like I'm talking dating husband wife where they're fighting, it's ugly, it's like if this is what's going on in public, what we see what in the world is happening behind closed doors.

Starting point is 02:26:19 Once the Ben and Candice thing started going on, I think we all knew this thing was not going to last long. It was not inevitable. And what last long. It was inevitable. And what was it? It was the Israel conflict. Yeah, and I'll get into the policy difference in a second. So number one, the rabbi situation. One guy, one rabbi doesn't speak for an entire religion.

Starting point is 02:26:38 This guy is an entertainer at first and foremost. That's what he is. Shmueli. Shmueli, exactly. What people don't know is that Why is he dressed up like this? Did he just decide one day be a great costume? The current holiday that is going on in the Jewish world is called Purim. Purim is the Jewish Halloween So this was his cute little Halloween thing. I think it's beneath a rabbi

Starting point is 02:27:03 I think any rabbi of mine should never do anything like this. But if we want to go down the slippery slope of religious leaders doing the wrong things, yeah okay, your Catholic priests, they don't represent every Catholic person out there. Don't get me started on the Imams calling for jihad. They don't represent every Muslim Arab out there so this guy doesn't represent Judaism or Israel he represents himself that's it period number two Candace she did a about a month ago she outlined exactly where she stood on this overall topic and the first 10 minutes

Starting point is 02:27:45 she talked about her entire life she was surrounded by Jewish friends my best friend is Jewish I went to more Rosh Hashanah dinners than than any non-Jew should ever go to my first job my first job in finance Jewish person she befriended she said she'd lived and dated with a guy who was Jewish. So I don't think someone like that just goes down to anti-Semite. I think she's fighting specifically about policy disagreements, specifically with Ben. She talked about the COVID thing. She talked about the Russia thing. She talked about the Ukraine thing. She talked about the Israel thing. At the end of the day, she's on the isolationist camp. Don't do anything. Don't fund anything. Ben is clearly on the interventionist camp fund this

Starting point is 02:28:29 War in Israel war in Russia. That's what they had a disagreement on they could not work that out. I believe adamantly in free speech There's people on this chat right now calling me a gay Jew. Okay, only one of those things is true, buddy I'm a proud Jew. Okay, only one of those things is true buddy. I'm a proud Jew I actually just I just message thank you. Gotcha guys keep it coming. I love the haters I love the Adam you have one minute amazing. It's fun I'm totally cool with rhetoric where it gets very ugly is when rhetoric turns into actual violence So Rob if you want to show these stats stats I don't give a shit what you say, but when we start talking about hate crimes

Starting point is 02:29:10 actual hate crimes Nobody is Doing it like how they do to the Jews you see that big blue number in the middle of the pie That's the Jewish hate crimes. Where's it that word worldwide or United States is worldwide. Okay. Okay, so there's Muslims in there. There's Christians Rob could check it on that by the way, there's a million different stats Oh, I believe it. I just want to know who it's from so we can tell the audience Rob could do that Check that Rob to the fact check that believe it's CNN. Okay weird. Well, they said it can't be true. Obviously. Yeah, so I Believe that Candace should say whatever the hell she wants to say

Starting point is 02:29:49 I believe you the haters out there should say whatever you want to say at the end of the day As far as a business situation goes imagine me Sitting next to PBD for four years now and all I talked about was I hate capitalism I love DEI I love wokeness my heroes Dylan Mulvaney I probably wouldn't be here too long and that's what happened with wait all that is not your problem but the one thing I think I think calling your anti-semitic is completely BS and then searching for shit in podcasts with the rabbiay when she goes yeah the the Shmueli's daughter's a hack and he goes wait a minute. Did you know in 1700?

Starting point is 02:30:31 It's there's I understand anti-semitism but to be searching and digging to make that happen because that's the straw the straw was I could give two shits about what that one rabbi had to say to kids But these are one rabbi's that are that cause her job Okay, so move in her and come roll the tape of all the Imams calling to kill the Jews You were gonna be here for the next 10 years. We're talking about Candice Owens My point is this Hey Words are not violence separate the two the bottom line is this Candice is looking for a new job

Starting point is 02:31:03 I'm sure there's plenty of reputable media companies that would love to hire her. Okay, so here's where we can wrap this story up here with Candace Owens and Daily Wire. Okay, the numbers will dictate if it's a good decision or bad decision. The reality of it is, Ben Shapiro's, there's always going to be an audience for what he has to say. Candace Owens, there's always going to be an audience for what she has to say. I think Candace is just getting started. I think she's in her, how old is Candace? Early 30s? Like is she in her late 20s? Early 30s? 34. Okay, well good for her. She's 34 years old.

Starting point is 02:31:44 She's going to be around for a long time to come. Ben Shapiro, how old is Ben Shapiro? Can you type in Ben Shapiro? 38? No, no, no. He's 40. He's 40 years old. They're six years apart. They're both not going away, okay? They're both not going away anytime soon and the market needs to hear both sides of their stories. We're gonna see what happens here and how the market reacts, numbers-wise. It's very simple. The good news about podcasts and shows and everything nowadays, you can pretty much track

Starting point is 02:32:12 on who's doing right and who's not because the data is public. You cannot hide. There's nothing worse than seeing numbers being live and they're growing or worse and you're like, oh my God, the market can tell I'm not doing good. That's what sucks about capitalism. Everybody sees it. This is why a lot of singers that were once big hits, that they used to have sellout crowds, now they're selling out small audiences or whatever they go.

Starting point is 02:32:36 It's a very difficult phase to go through and the market's going to be very direct to all of us in the next few years based on the decisions we make. That's what I bank on. But I want to wrap it up with this one story, which is kind of weird. Elevation Church. It's a pretty popular church. If you can pull them up, see who they are, Tom, I want to kind of come to you as well. Elevation Church reveals why they don't use words like resurrection on Easter invites.

Starting point is 02:32:58 Hence, it's a terrible reason. Okay, alright, so let's see what they have to say. Some of you guys know this guy, who he is. If you want to put the senior pastor on who he is, Pro Church Tools recently sat down with Nikki Sherir, Elevation Church Digital Content Director. She is responsible for overseeing the alt copy coming out of Elevation Church, 25,000 member, multi-site led by Stephen Furtick. She gets the tone of church emails, blesses or nixes the language of social media posts

Starting point is 02:33:27 and develops guidelines for responding to events in the news. In a wide-range interview, Sharia explains why they don't use phrases in the church. Elevation Church does not like the words like resurrection, Calvary or blood of Jesus on its Easter invites. As that language will immediately make someone feel an outsider. Can you play this clip, Rob? I'm talking all the way from people who have been in our church for years and I want them to invite people to church.

Starting point is 02:33:52 All the way to people who have never heard of our church before and trying to get them to come to church, right? People who are unchurched, you might say. And so how do I talk to those two people? They're really different. But I'm putting a lot of my focus, energy, time, resources toward what I would call the cold audience as people far from God. And so I'm not going to say the word Calvary, I'm not going to say the word resurrection,

Starting point is 02:34:15 I'm not going to say the blood of Jesus. I'm not going to say any of these words that make someone feel like an outsider. This is really important, an important guiding principle for how we develop language is anyone can be a part of our church. It might not be for everyone. Everyone might not like it. She's triggered from the Bible. So they have an organization, and they have gatherings.

Starting point is 02:34:40 And Stephen Furtick gets a lot of criticism from a lot of different pastors including one we both know I'm not gonna put names out there because I don't need to create drama but you know when you if you are a Christian church then you have your Bible you have your New Testament and you don't need to amplify certain things but you certainly don't change certain things. The message is the message You know and on this Easter weekend, Good Friday is a day of remembrance, you know Christ died he was crucified on a cross that is just a Description of what happened and then he rose again, which is called a resurrection

Starting point is 02:35:22 Which is a celebration of Easter Sunday dying for the sins of mankind now when you if someone walks up to you and Like alcoholics anonymous They weighed into it They say hey You should think about a higher power to maybe help you in your journey to find strength to get through your addiction You don't hit them with like, you know, two hours of heavy dialogue, you wade into it. And on one hand, if a church is wading into it with someone who's new, wading into it, that's one thing.

Starting point is 02:35:55 But if you're going to take Easter and you're going to be describing of something that it's not, then you're not really sharing the message That's not the message and there's a lot of criticism with this organization and other organizations that water it down or change the message and You know on Easter Sunday, there's a beautiful message that like hey, we all sin of fallen short Christ died on Good Friday for your sins rose again on Easter and he's there Do you think this is the right approach to take. I don't think this is the right approach. I don't think the right approach is to basically hide the ball from people that are coming in to hear it and I also don't think it would be the right approach that if

Starting point is 02:36:35 somebody comes into an AA meeting or comes in that you hit them hard very very heavy and emotional but that's not what they're doing here. They're basically talking about just watering it down and there's a thing called seeker sensitive and socially progressive language that I think waters down the message and really hides the ball of the message and I don't think it's the right thing to do. Yeah, I think when I look at Stephen Furtick, I think of somebody who's an incredible motivational speaker. I agree. One of the best motivational speakers on the way he delivers his message, and in regards

Starting point is 02:37:10 to, I don't have a lot of information on him, but in regards to taking positions like this, this goes back to my point of Christians that are becoming tolerant Christians that are apologizing about what they stand for instead of being a little bit direct. And I think it's going in a different direction. This is kind of like saying, it's okay, let them in, it's okay, let them in, it's okay, let them in, it's okay, let them in. I don't know.

Starting point is 02:37:34 I remember when I was at the church we were going to in LA, and they said there's a couple different ways to preach from the top. There's ways to preach where you're just kind of preaching to motivate people and there's ways you preach that you're building disciples. If you just want to bring people in to preach and become a motivational speaker, be as watered down as possible. If you want to develop disciples that are hardcore believers to go out there and build and run their own life groups and build other people, you've got to take a different route.

Starting point is 02:38:02 They've done something right to have 25,000 people there. I just don't know if this is the right approach to take for others to follow. Anyways, having said that, we are at the end of the podcast. It's 11.49. We rarely go this late, but we have so many different stories to cover. Today's what? Today's Tuesday. Rob, I think we may have a podcast tomorrow.

Starting point is 02:38:21 Stay tuned. We'll announce it to you guys. We do have somebody that's coming in. That's gonna be fun then we're doing a podcast on Thursday, which I believe Trump's lawyer may be coming back on Thursday with us on a live podcast to kind of give us some perspective on what's going on and Then we may have some things going on on Friday as well. Having said that I have a good one everybody We'll do it again tomorrow, maybe on Thursday. Take care everybody. Bye. Bye. Bye

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