PBD Podcast - Bernard Kerik | PBD Podcast | EP 60

Episode Date: May 13, 2021

Patrick Bet-David sits with guests Benard Kerik & Adam Sosonick to talk about topics such as Colonial pipeline cyberattack, prison reform, representative Liz Cheney and more.  Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/cHtLJaNbNtA --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

So today we have a special guest with us, a good friend Bernard Carrick, the former commissioner of NYPD, you know, in New York they had the five Monty, you know, the five mob families they had the Monty, the Colombo, all these other families they had, but it was also the Carrick family because you have to be just as tough as them to be able to hang, be in the 40th commission. And it's also correctional, right? You were also the commissioner of the jail system in New York, which was pretty epic. I ran Rikers in the New York City jail system.

And back in my day, we had about 133,000 admissions a year. My daily population was about 22,500. Oh, moldy. When we took over the system, we averaged about 150 stabbings and slashings per month. When I left and became police commissioner in 2000, we had knocked down the inmate on inmate violence by about 93%. 93% and that is why we have Bernard Kerrick here today to talk about what's going on and how he would go about fixing it.

We'd like to kind of get some insight on that. But outside of that, we just got back from Dallas. That's true. Dallas, we had a great event with 2500 some people there. We rented out the Cowboys stadium. We had Bo Jackson there, Dylan and Bo Jackson had a moment together. Conversations, what was your favorite part, Bob? Tell me your favorite part that you,

with Bo or just a whole, just send the Cowboys experience. I mean, what an event. Are you freaking kidding me? So I will tell you the one part that stands out to me because we got in on Sunday, you spoke all day Sunday to your MDs, right? Your marketing director.

So those maybe 300 people in the room, right? So that's, keep in mind, we haven't had a major event like any time like this since 2019, right? I mean, so this is my first PHP event. We just had our first big value payment event. A month ago, not even 100 people in a room in the breakers. So to get 100 people in a room these days, it's pretty impressive.

Point is we got 300 people in a room. Think it's a pretty big deal. All right, Pat speaks. It's awesome. It's awesome. Monday morning rolls around. You know, I tend to run maybe a little bit late. Sometimes, don't be nervous.

Whatever. You're like a five-am topic. Yeah, whatever. So this particular day, I think the meeting started at nine. I strolled in at nine thirty. I had some stuff to do in the morning. I walk in. Burn.

And the room is packed, 2,500 people. I did not expect that it was insane. To the point where I'm expecting- Fire department showed up. No, nobody showed up. No, nobody I'm saying to. Oh, it's fire department showed up behind closed doors because we have to stay in the room only.

We have to bring new chairs in, we have to get some guys to get out. Yeah. It was problematic behind closed doors. I did not even know that. It looked like it went off. The right front. The hotels showed up.

We were having conversations. But anyways, it was a great event. Afterwards we go, we shut down the cowboy state. Shut down cowboy state. Yeah, and this is a jackson. But we're not the canola's fight, by the way. This is a canola who had to fight out. 76,000 some people went to watch this guy fight

and the guy broke the other guy's jaw. Did you see that? Yeah, I did. He broke his face pretty much with a punch. Bernie, please don't get any ideas. All right. I'm a good guy. Bernie's a friend of the guy. So a question. Huge event feels feels great to get back on the scene. You rent out Dallas cowboy freaking stadium. What? How does it feel? You're the CEO. You're given the opening and closing messages. How does it feel to do a major event like that?

This is our second one at the Cowboys Stadium. They're very easy to deal with great people, phenomenal experience. And this time around, we brought Bo. Bo's pissed off. He misses two flights because of the lightning and they're in canceled, canceled, canceled. He's the kind of guy he's old school.

He wants to be on time. So he gets in, ticked off at Mother Nature. This mother for you know, I cannot believe this. He is pissed off. For looking to fight Mother Nature. And possibly win. Possibly win. Possibly win.

And then anyways, he gets up there. Matt Sopala, there's a phenomenal job interview. Shout out to Scott, great conversations, great questions. Shout out to T. Rudd and Moral for making that whole thing happen. Yes, they did. And then ask the whole striker. Bow through the ball to guys for a straight hour. He didn't have to do that.

Like, you can go home. Like, no, man, I'm good. I'm having fun. So he was in his element, you know, he was in his element. And afterwards we went and sat down, had conversations. He was telling stories with Dylan and Adam showed a video to Dylan that's been on Dylan's mind. We can't long. Why don't you tell them what the video is?

All right, you're a big welfare of fan. Anyway, Will Farrow's in this movie, Eastbound and Down, and he plays his character. And it's basically, imagine that I'm trying to make the two of you laugh. Okay? And whoever laughs first loses. So he gets into this Ric Flair-esque character and the story is I'm making love to my wife. Donna. Donna. I come home tonight.

Exactly. Close the window. Yeah. AC, 82. And you do all of me. I'm on top of Donna. She don't like it at all. She's sweating.

My son Gabriel walks in. 82, I'd imagine. Yeah. He says, oh no son, go. Let him. She's sweating my son Gabriel walks in 82 Oh no son go Let him but he said she Gabriel walks in she my wife down a yells Gabriel get out of here. No It at the boy watch Like I had to learn from my father before me and his father I had to learn from my father before me and his father and this guy can't even control themselves. Yeah.

Anyways, so Dylan watched this video all weekend long, all he's been saying. We're sitting there talking to Bo Jackson, Bo has no clue what's going on. I asked Bo, I said, Bo, who the greatest athletes of all time? So Bo says, I'm gonna have to put Jim Brown there, I'm gonna put Michael Jordan, he gave all these names.

And then Dylan says, how about Frank, how about Jackie Robinson? He says, you you know what we have to put Jackie there's but he says you forgot Kobe Bryant. Yeah, we have to go about Jesse Owens. And Dylan, how do you know? I'm giving these in and then all of a sudden I don't know where Dylan every we're having a serious conversation Dylan says, Bo, let the boy watch. Dylan has no clue what he's talking to him. He's like, seven years old.

Let the boy, boy has no clue. He's saying, even I am trying to control ourselves. Because the boy is serious. Your son is asking you to let the boy watch the irony. And the fact that your father, his name Gabriel, is just the most ironic part. There's too many things there that makes... So Bernie, you're a Giants fan, you're a Jets guy.

I mean, let's bring this back to you. You're from New York, you ran New York for a freaking decade. I'm not a big football fan. I like the Giants because they're in New York. I like the Yankees. I used to go to, I usually attended a bunch of games. I don't go anymore. Not happy with the NFL and some of these other teams

that have supported Black Lives Matter and all this nonsense. So I've kind of stayed away from it. Gotcha. So not a Bo Jackson fan maybe? What? Bo Jackson, yeah. I like him. Good man.

Good guy. Okay. Now, you were a football fan before, like you were a guy that followed. I would follow it. Yeah. So you went from following now, you're not following it. No. In the last three years.

The last two. Strings. So you're that fan who says, I was a fan now I'm not. No. So, so it's fair to say if I go to RedCon today at five o'clock, hypothetically, and you're that fan who says I was a fan now. I'm not no so so it's fair to say if I go to red Conte at five o'clock Hypothetically and you're there Kai Green is there Aaron is there you guys are working out I'm probably not gonna see you in a cappernick jerseys that is that a first that's not pretty fair to say

That's pretty fair to say and you will not see me working out with Kai Green and Aaron yeah, I'll be by myself By yourself those boys are on their own Yeah, they're off to the first of all Kai just Kai looks like a Aaron's a big guy Aaron Aaron's a big guy, but Kai is a a monster so I gotta tell you he went to I took him to CPAC with me right the conservative political action committee event and he wanted to go. He wanted to go to see Kai Green, Kai Green, which I don't know, for me it was surprising. This is

a Brooklyn dude. He wants to go to CPAC. I said, all right, so Aaron and I and Aaron's wife and Kai, we go to CPAC. And, you know, I know a bunch of these guys that, you know, former, uniformist, former Olympians, but I've never hung with them like at dinner, at lunch. So we go in this restaurant and we sit down to have lunch and Aaron's wife orders like a sandwich and Aaron orders a cheeseburger and I order a cheeseburger and Kai he says okay I'll take a cheeseburger and with you know those red fries and a chicken sandwich too, and a big salad,

and another sandwich. This is Kai. This is Kai. And the ladies, the ladies looking at him and he goes, oh, do we need another seat? Somebody else coming? And he goes, no. That's for me.

It's for me. I had your 12 lunches. Well, let me see how much you weighs. Off season, no. That's for me. It's for me. How'd you 12 lunches? Well, let me see how much you weighs. Off season, this guy is 310 pounds. How tall? He's 5'8". 5'8. Yeah, I was gonna say.

He's about 5'8. How do you see what he looks like? Kai's physique. Let's pull him up. Can you put a Kai's future up? You gotta beat us up. You gotta beat us to the future up. You gotta beat us to the future up.

So he sits there and he has this, you know, this lunch for five on his own. He sits there. Lunch for five for one. Yeah, look, he's got the beautiful rat tail. He's a small dude. And so we get done with that lunch and we go on to the VIP room in the CPAC center.

And about an hour later, we're in that room. And he's like, toolin' around the room and he's lookin' in the little, you know, they have the hors d'oeuvres things. And I said to Aaron, I said, what's he lookin' for? He said, he's hungry. I said, he's hungry.

He just had enough fuckin' food for about 30 people. Yeah, that's, he's hungry. That's sensible. Again, if you see, let the boy eat. 30 people. Yeah, that's hungry. That's insom- Again, let the boy eat. Let the boy eat. That's him. But they do, you know, they have six, eight meals a day. Like, maintain that physique and weight.

You need it. Well, you're considering doing something like that. You said- No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not working out like that. No, no, no, no. But eating more small meals. This is not-

They're not eating six small meals. These guys are eating six cows a day, it was what he's telling you, you see. Yeah, let's get some more. You know, look, the bottom line is, you can eat, and I went through this in my turmoil. I learned how to eat six, eight times a day, but it was super small meals.

And everybody has these diets, right? They have a hundred different diets. Here's the diet, the real diet, protein, vegetables, and fruit. I don't know what the hell you call that. You know, they get names for it. Paleo diet. Yeah, paleo and all these other diets.

You got a caveman. It's all BS. Protein, vegetables and fruit. If you do that, you do it in small portions, six to eight times a day. You will knock off the weight, you'll be in phenomenal shape. And that's kind of what I would think. But it's not guys that.

Kai is trying to maintain three 10, 300 pounds. This guy is eating, this guy's eating, think about it. I mean, he's eating 4,000 calories per meal. Per meal. Yeah. But he spends, he spends eight hours a day in a gym. Three and a half. He's been doing movies.

He took a different route. He went from doing a bodybuilding side to now he no longer competes. He is more doing movies, Hollywood. He took a different route. He went from doing a bodybuilding side to now he no longer competes. He is more doing movies, Hollywood. He took a different route. And you have you ever met him? No, I got it. You got to get him on a show. I'm telling you, smart guy, you know, just soft, both strong opinions are no pretty strong opinions. But he's a soft, spoken guy, not the nicest man you can meet.

His biggest opponent was who Phil Heath. Him and Phil went out of back and forth. Him and Phil's, you know, all those top guys, you know. Cutler, cutler, you know, those kind of guys. Yeah, you're a good friend with Phil Heath. Very good friends with Phil Heath. Yeah, and so they went the same era, and I think Kai would go second many times and

Kai Couple times almost could have picked it up a lot of people who are Kai fans would say You know, he could have had one or two the guy had a very nice physique very very Know what when you're at that level when you're at that level, you know, it's symmetric It's it's you know, it's a it's a muscle off It's symmetric, it's a muscle-off. The bottom line is all those guys, all those guys, whether it's Cutler or Coleman or all of them, they're phenomenal athletes.

Oh, I mean, there's just, first of all, you're talking about, it's the most judgmental sport in the world. It's you against the judges in your little panties. Okay, literally you're wearing panties, okay, and you're sitting there posing and they're saying, his abs and... If Kai Green comes and sits here,

don't talk about panties. Yeah, what he's saying. So, put your panties, Guy, how do you get your panties in a bunch? So, anyways, but he does, he eats a lot. Anyway, so let's get into, We got a lot of stories to cover. I'm going to cover some of the stories and it will get into one of his gas prices,

which is insane. We may even go into that on what happened with gas prices. With this dark web hackers that came out, they got actually an interesting story on what they're doing. I think it's important to see the connection there with Russia. US job opening hits record high in March. We have a number of states that have ended boosting

their unemployment benefits, Emmett, hiring concerns. Another article we got about Applebee's aiming to hire 10,000 workers in May with an interview incentive, which is pretty big deal to see Applebee's wanting to hire 10,000. Amazing incentive program. But that's what's great is the fact

that they're hiring 10,000. It want a positive program. But that's what's great is the fact that they're hiring 10,000. It's telling you the future looks bright. So anytime you see an Applebee's hiring 10,000, they're trying to say things are about to go back to normal, which is great to hear some like that. Okay, so inflation, skyrocketing, record breaking, I think April that we had the last time it went up, this 4.2% was what?

In 08, when they had a spike like this Analytics suggest 96% of users leave app tracking disabled and iOS 14.5 this is hurting Facebook Tremendously because they're allowing people to say do you want them to have your information and 96% are saying no I don't want them to track what I'm doing Toyos Q4 profits nearly doubled beating expectations, soft bank just shocked its critics by landing the biggest profit in the history of a Japanese company,

judge dismisses, NRA bankruptcy case, colonial pipeline attack tip of an infrastructure, risk iceberg, DHS cyber chief says, gas stations in the southeast run out of gas as people panic, buying fuel. New York City violent crime is up. So is the city's police budget, which obviously we'll talk to you about that. New York City appears, prepares for return to government, for government workers.

Why New York City's homeless list rates skyrocketed for adults, but dropped for families during the pandemic. California Governor Newsom is proposing a $12 billion budget to house state homelessness. LA murder rate continues to climb. Murder on Los Angeles nearly doubles. Up nearly 200% violent crimes rising at rapid pace. Sheriff's statistics show St. Louis Sheriff's Statistics show.

Then something happened this weekend with Republicans ousting Liz Cheney from leadership over her, I say this weekend, it was a couple days ago, we have another podcast for a while, over her opposition to Trump and GOP election rights, which I'm kind of curious to know what you're gonna say about that. And then we have to talk about Palestine and Israel. Is that story here or no?

Is that story here? Which pages it on? 12. Yeah, let me see if we have it. Okay, senior Hermas Commander killed as Israel strikes Gaza, Palestinians, fire rockets. First story I wanna get into is actually gas prices. So if you wanna go to page five, colonial pipeline attack, and it will go to page six

to talk about these gas prices, what happened to it? Why the lines are so long and why everyone's panicking. So colonial pipeline attack, tip of infrastructure, risk iceberg, DHS cyber, is this the gas story or no? Darks, it is, okay. Colonial pipeline attack, tip of the infrastructure rise, risk iceberg, DHS cyber chief, Fox business story. After a hacking group croc uh... force

colonial pipeline the nation's largest system for refined oil products to shut down suddenly government officials are warning cyber attacks against u.s. businesses and infrastructure will become more frequent acting cyber security infrastructure security agency director brand and wells made that clear during q&a while testifying before lawmakers on the center homeland security committee if there is ransom, ransomware focus on colonial, there is likely to be ransomware

focus on other critical infrastructure as well. Isn't that true? As Senator Rob Portman, Republican Ohio, the ranking member of the committee, and Wells responded, that is true. The attack on the colonial pipeline said to be the work of Russian ransomware group dark side is Training supply and panic and drivers who have lined up at gas stations up and down to East Coast with North Carolina Virginia declared a state of emergency and in obviously this is causing gas stations in Southeast to run out of gas as pet people panic By and fuel gas stations in southern eastern United States face significant out of outages Wednesday Eastern United States face significant outages Wednesday. This makes it in this stretches into the sixth day as of 7 a.m. Eastern Standard Time 24.8% of all gas stations in North Carolina,

15.4% of all gas stations in Georgia, 15% in Virginia are without gasoline. Let me say that one more time. A quarter of all gas stations in Carolina. That's the third largest economy in America. According to the city, you know's it's a big number right then when you're looking at that according to gas body as an app track field man the supply chain appears to be much worse in metropolitan cities gas body reported outages impacting 71% of stations in metro Charlotte nearly 60% in Atlanta 72% in Raleigh, 73% in Pensacola. Anyways, I can give you a bunch of stats. What are your thoughts on what's going on with this?

Well, you wanna start with this? No, go ahead. Okay, well, there's two different stories here. There's the actual cyber attack on colonial pipeline. I think it's important to point out that sort of a big Miami journalist type guy made a major announcement is like, people in South Florida don't worry about this. We do not get our gaps from colonial pipeline.

We actually get shipments from the ports. So this is not affecting South Florida. So for local people, they were like, all right, cool. But there's, I guess two stories going on here. Number one, the cyber warfare. I mean, and you could probably speak about warfare way better than I, but warfare is now turning cyber. And this is a major concern.

I think it was Ted Coppel that I spoke with a few years ago at a big Nalva event. And it was kind of 2016 when Trump was talking about the wall and all that, and it was Hoopal on Hoopal, he goes, look, the biggest issue we should all be thinking about is cyber warfare, and obviously after COVID, you know, whatever you would call pandemic warfare,

but also the electrical grid. Like imagine if they can take out the electrical grid that'd be absurd. So, but the good news is this has been rectified. Everything is kind of getting back to normal. And then back to, that's sort of a macro level. Then from a micro perspective, Kai, if you want to pull up the picture

that I just sent you, this reminds me, it's to use the metaphor from COVID, people freaking out buying toilet paper. I gotta get toilet paper. I'm a hoarding toilet paper. It's ridiculous. I need the toilet paper the, from COVID, people freaking out buying toilet paper. I gotta get toilet paper. I'm a hoarding toilet paper. It's ridiculous. I need the toilet paper and it's like, why did we all need all that toilet paper during COVID?

I had COVID. I wasn't going to the bathroom more than usual. So here's an example that I saw online. This couple is filling up a SUV full of gas. This is classic. But the kids probably sitting in a back right there smelling all of gas. This is classic. But the kids probably sitting in a back right there smelling all of that. You know, the guy's 300 pounds,

you should probably just take a walk for a second. But rather than driving the SUV, that's just me. I got personal, I'm sorry buddy. I take that back. The wife's calves look like Bo Jackson. That's just me again. Legit.

But legit. But this is what's going on. This is people overreact. They rushed a judgment. Listen, all night last night, if you ride up and down the highway, you'll see lines, you would have seen lines, all night last night,

they don't really have a problem here, but people panic, just like the toilet paper. And I don't, I really never figured out what the toilet paper had to do with the COVID stuff, like toilet paper. I don do with the covid stuff like Tolla paper. I don't know Nobody got diarrhea from covid. No, that was not a symptom. No, it was not a symptom I still can't smell six months later, but I've been able to

Bathroom was pretty normal not a bad problem. Yeah, so You know the toilet paper was an issue just like the gas people panic, they panic and it's usually out of ignorance. The problem we have at all, the things that you mentioned, the grid issues, the electrical grid, the water basins, are they problematic? Could that be? Yeah, they could be. But the bottom line is Al-Madeh Kudabi, yeah, they could be. But the bottom line is, cyber is probably one of the deadliest threats we face today as a national security risk, because you have Russia, you have China, you have El Salvador, Iran, North Korea, North Korea. These are all, you know, they all have their elements out there that are trying

to attack the US without doing it publicly. And how do you do that? You get into the banking systems. You get into systems like this. They could do a lot of damage, a lot of damage, and that's what we have to worry about. And here's what's interesting. Can you pull up that tweet that I sent you? This is pretty insane to be thinking about how ridiculous

this is getting. Here's US consumer product safety commission. Do not fill plastic bags with gasoline. Yeah, plastic bags. Plastic bags with gasoline. What do you mean, do you even have to tweet about the fact that the only reason they're tweeting that is why? someone's dude maybe think it's a water bag.

Hey, let me go fill up class. How do you even fill up class? This is this is what irrational actors are thinking about when they hear that there's a gas shortage and they don't own one of the big red buckets because homeboy over there just bought 10,000 and put him in his truck and now your only option is I gotta go fill up a garbage bag versus gasoline. And you're freaking out. Like you said, they're uninformed and they're just acting.

So here's what we have the most. This is the largest US pipeline, number one. Largest US fuel pipeline. Okay, dark side hackers took a hundred gigabyte of data. They stole, okay. They have a double extortion scheme. There's a ransom they want here in return. If you go look up who dark side hackers are,

they operate on the dark web. It's not political, they flat out tell you, we are not political, we don't lean on the left, order right or anywhere. We simply just want money. On their website, they tell you which companies they've attacked, which companies they've hacked, what they've gotten on their website they tell you which companies they've attacked which companies they've hacked what they've gotten on their website Clearly and they say they have a very value-based principle. They don't go after funeral homes

They don't go after insurance company. They don't go after companies that take care of elderly. They're there's such Oh, what nice principal Principal thieves principal principal principal, principal thieves. The principal-based hackers. And Biden came out and said, look, this has nothing to do with Russia, meaning the government. It has something to do with the people that are hacking are from Russia, but we don't know if they're linked to Russia or not. Obviously, gas prices went up to high in seven years,

but if you really think about it, here's what you gotta be thinking about. So go and think about what COVID did to us for 12 months. How much did COVID cost us? I was talking to Nome Chomsky, and he said such an interesting thing. He said, look what Osama bin Laden did to the US. He said, Osama bin Laden, during Bush and Obama, he got the US government,

his goal was to make US government go bankrupt chasing this guy. US spent $3.6 trillion just to catch this guy. He says what human being in the world has ever been worth $3.6 trillion. The most expensive human being ever in the world was Osama bin Laden. Think about that. The most expensive human being in the world was Osama bin Laden. That's how much US have spent to go capture this guy's branding.

Three point six trillion dollars. So now, you come back and you look at something like this. How much did COVID cost you? How much did COVID cost? Five trillion plus. So far, in excess of five. In excess of five trillion dollars. Okay, five to six trillion dollars.

Forget about the printing money, all this stuff. Five to six trillion dollars, right? And now things are coming back that, you know, Fauci was part of a funded project. I don't know if you saw that or not, that they helped out with China years ago. And now they're kind of wanting to remove their names, but on the bottom of it, this lady who did this report on the bottom, she says that this research was funded by, I think it's NIH, which Fauci's name is on, that now Fauci's coming back and saying, we had nothing to do with this. And they're saying how reckless this could have been because the virus could have come

out, et cetera, et cetera. What does this have to do with COVID and Fauci? Here's what it has to do with it. The threats, you know, you know, how they say, what is that one line? You know, if wars were fought in, you know, the next World War III will be fought with what? Sticks and bones, you know, sticks and... For the words? No, no, no, no.

Sticks and stones? Sticks and stones. Meaning, it's going to be the end of the world. I don't think that's going to be the case. If you actually think about what the next wars are going to be, the toughest things about the next war is you don't know who's doing it. There is no fingerprints today. It's tough to find the fingerprints today.

How do you go back and see who's behind this thing here? How do you not know these were you know people who are working on the inside with the Russian government that are doing this? How do you not know that this is funded? You don't know that stuff. The paper trail to find a lot of stuff is tough today. You don't know but why because it's done online? The hackers they can find ways to eliminate their IP so you don't know where it's coming from and these guys are becoming so good at what they're doing today You know it this reminds me of the Cali Cartel back in the

80s 90s right for everything that Pablo Escobar and those guys Pablo Escobar those guys for every element that we put together to attack them to go after their networks, to kill their groups, everything we did. So think of it like this. You can't wire tap a cell phone, right? This is back in the 80s. Coming out of the 80s going into the 90s, we figured out how to get up on the phones.

So they went to the pages. Then we figured out how to get up on the phones. So they went to the pages. Then we figured out how to get on the pages. They take one step, we have to follow it up with two or three to catch up. How long does that take to catch up, by the way? It depends on what it is, but it takes a while. It's not immediate. They're thinking, the criminal element is this,

they're constantly thinking of ways to circumvent the law, circumvent law enforcement. And every time they do that, we have to come up with a way to combat it. In this, this stuff is like Star Wars realistically. And today, you know, there were kids out there, 15 year old kids that are in high schools, that in my town, for example, in Bergen County, New Jersey, there are kids in high schools that, you know, get visits from the FBI and the Secret Service because they just happen to tap into, you know, Michelle Obama's banking account. Just for shits and giggles, Bob. Just to tell them what I get.

Just to play. Just to play, they're playing a game. They're playing a game, but that's the intelligence level of some of these kids today. And what happens, then they go into the private sectors. They go into government sectors.

They go into criminal sectors. And they go out there and do this stuff. So the genius of our younger generation when it comes to this is incredible. And it's frightening. Who's more creative? Who's more creative? CIA, FBI, you know, DEA, or criminals. Who is more creative?

The criminals are more creative because they're there first, they get there first, right? So they have to be creative. They already know what we have the ability to do. So they have to get creative to circumvent that. But I will tell you this, when the FBI has a problem, or the CIA has a problem They can't really figure it out. Who do they go to?

You go to the criminals, right? They get their informants. They get their sources They bring in people that can get the job done and sometimes it's It's like the classic movie catch me if you can't Frank Abbick now We can't figure this guy out. Let's bring them in right let's go get him And now he's in a and now he's like one of the more outspoken People out there talking about money laundering and washing money and using Epic hard credit cards both went to Joseph Kennedy, you know, because he's like listen man The way you can manipulate the stock market. I have to find out what you're doing to find the next criminals

Yeah, right and that's how the stock market, I have to find out what you're doing to find the next criminals. Right. And that's how the whole SEC got started back in the days. They have to find out how would you manipulate the market today? How would you mess with the market today? But these hackers, they're not driven by the same things that others are driven by. They're not driven by money. They're not driven. They're driven by, you know, some are driven by money.

Some. It's not all of them though but but not all of That's some of them are driven by revenge. They're driven by you said what did you say watch what I'm gonna or it's a game You don't think I can do this exactly. It's it's a game. It's political. It's revenge. It's you know, it's These dark side guys whoever these guys are they there's flat out saying look man We're just great. I will be do we want money. That's all we care about you give us fully full disclosure It's very one-dimensional relationship. We're very good at what we do We're gonna make your life a living kill just give us the money. We'll leave you alone

So it's crazy what these young kids could do I think it was like a 15 year old kid that hacked into Twitter or something like that and started tweeting Under Jack Dorsey or whatever the ridiculous story was like that. You know what's scary is you look at some of the dark side hackers. Who are they hacking? They're hacking police departments. They're hacking police departments. They're hacking government agencies.

They're going to police departments and saying, what's their outcome? Well, the money, money, they want paid. We're gonna shut down your city's ability to get payments for city electric utilities. We're gonna shut that down. We want $100,000 in Bitcoin, and we wanna buy 12 PM today. And if you don't do it, we're a hundred thousand dollars in Bitcoin and we want to buy a 12 p.m. Today And if you don't do it, we're shutting that ability down. So

They look at it like this the city looks at it like this one We're not gonna grab them. We're not gonna catch them We may catch them later on down the line But we ain't getting them no time soon to stop this and two if they shut our ability down To collect utility payments from city residents It's gonna cost us five million dollars over the next two weeks three weeks a month Give them the hundred thousand oh

So they'll negotiate with terrorists and pay them is what you're saying cyber terrorists the cities pay Cities have paid. Yeah, tells you to power these guys by by the way. That's what you're saying. Cyber-carous. The city's paid. City's paid. Yeah. Tells you to power these guys. By the way, that's the next phase. So a couple of years ago, I had an insurance conference, I don't know, Palm Springs, I'm at an insurance conference. CEO gets up, okay? And they said, just want you to know, hackers right now

are hacking into a life insurance policies and they're taking cash values out of life insurance policies. Yes, so the CEO, we had a six hour session, two hours of it was just about cybersecurity, okay? So we went and investigated to find out what we need to be doing with cybersecurity. I mean, you can go out and get the best cybersecurity insurance, you can get the guys to come in,

no matter how much guys you get, there's gonna be people that know how to go around it. You're just trying to protect yourself. Exactly what I said. Yeah, you're simply trying. So today, one of the biggest sellers today is cybersecurity insurance. It's not even about hiring the best engineer

to fight off cybersecurity hackers. It's to get a cybersecurity insurance, you get a $5 million policy. Who would have thought the cybersecurity insurance business would have been this big? You're literally buying insurance against a cyber attack. And that's what a lot of businesses are doing to you. That's probably worth it to have.

It's a very good business. I'm telling you right now, I think the insurance industry with cybersecurity, I think that's gonna be one of the best business in the next 20 years. They're not going the way. You've got, if you don't have a mechanism to stop them Say they have your client list in some capacity, right a major a major corporation say they have your client list They're gonna abolish your client list

They're gonna disintegrate your files. They're gonna do all this stuff They want to have a million dollars So you're gonna lose your client list, you're gonna lose your data, you're gonna lose everything that was in your service, your systems unless you pay, you're gonna pay. How do you pay through the insurance company? Wow.

I have a question for you, Bernie, because you were the NYPD commissioner around 9-11, right? During 9-11. So taking it back to, I'm 40, past 42, 41. I remember being, this is 25 years ago, I remember being 15 years old, late 90s, mid 90s, and literally calling up and asking one of my best friends, who was like a computer geek,

I hate Jeremy, what's the difference between the internet and email? Can you just break that down for me, buddy? I literally had no idea. 1996. Right. Okay, so five years later, we're dealing with 9-11. You brought up some of my life.

96, I think I bought. Remember, American Express had a thing you can buy a computer online and people were buying computers and I was like, dude, I don't know. What would I ever need a computer? Why would I need a computer? You know, AOL account. I'm gonna get an AOL account.

Right, who just sold the, who just, they sold the, AOL account in Yahoo for five billion. And they lost the exclamation point, so they're not excited about it. Yahoo used up the exclamation point. AOL is not Yahoo. Yes, correct, but it used to be Yahoo

with an exclamation point, they took that away, meaning they're not too excited. Here's my question for you. So we're going back 20 years or so. What were the major concerns back then? Pre 9-11 and even post 9-11 versus what they are today. We talked about cyber and this malware and taking down the grid.

So bring us back to what the world looked like 20 years ago when you were running the show. Running the show versus what it looks like today. I think back then, you know, we weren't as concerned with cyber as we are today, not not even close, not even close. Today is a major, it's a major, could be a major national security threat. Back then it was the criminal element in the NYPD. We had a big intelligence component. We had been attacked prior. The radical Muslim, you know,

groups, we were familiar with, we were concerned with, and the organized crime change, you know, years ago up until, I guess the 2000s, you know, a lot of the organized crime, major organized crime in New York City was Italian, right? The Mafia. You know, today when the FBI says, you know, they've hit the Mafia, they've, you know, today when the FBI says, you know, they've, they've hit the mafia. They've, you know, they're taking out a substantial organized crime mafia group. The guy's 90 years old. He's coming out of his fucking house in a bathroom.

You know, come on. It's like really, dude. You know what, you don't want to mean. It's amazing. So, so, so, continue. So, the, so the, we got him, guys. Yeah. We got him in his walker. Hey, Tony. You don't mean amazing. So continue. So then- We got him guys. Yeah.

We got him in his walker. Hey, Tony, he's a wife. And he's a wife from me. And his walker, you know, they get him out to the car. Today it's the Russians. Today it's the Chinese. Things like that. Those organized crime groups are serious concerns. Terrorism, a serious concern in New

York City, only because we've been through it. We are, I think New York City is still the primary terrorist target in the United States, but cyber is one of the most important. And pre 9-11, how big of a concern, how high of a red-of-alert was a terrorist attack like the World Trade Center? Was it? Well, it was still high, and there were things we were always concerned with. Keep in mind, you know, the mass transit system, we have five million people that go through the mass transit system on a daily basis in New York City.

You know, you drop, you know, some chemical agents in the subway system at 5 o'clock at Grand Central Station. You've got a major problem. So these were always concerns of ours. In the aftermath of the attack on the morning of September 11, after the planes hit the buildings, we shut down the mass transit system. We evacuated the other buildings in New York City,

that had major height on them, worried about incoming planes, worried about third, fourth planes. We didn't know how many planes were out there, but we also shut down the mass transit system. Got everybody out of the subway system. Because I didn't know if there were more attacks planned. I didn't know if there was something going to happen on the ground. You know, a coordinated attack like this, you don't know what they did. You only know what you're getting at the time. What did they have planned? Did they have coordinated attacks planned on the ground? You know

shore up the synagogues shore up the churches The government buildings the mass transit these are all things that we had to worry about at the time and You were you were you were with Giuliani, right? You were escorting Giuliani around because there's a What's the whole story with you and mayor Giuliani during 9-11? Well, when when the first plane hit tower one I was actually in my office Giuliani was uptown. He was at a breakfast and I was in my office and my chief of staff and one of my security guys came in banging on the door that a plane had just hit tower one and I thought they were a little overly excited because I thought that that plane would

be a small sazler or one of these small aircrafts. You did not think it was a terrorist attack? No. No, I thought, you know what I thought it was? I thought it was one of these small planes that fly up and down the Hudson River. The helicopter is a small aircraft, you know, taking people in and out of lower Manhattan. And then all of a sudden, I looked up it, I had a TV in my office above a treadmill in the back of my office.

And I could see the damage to the building. And I walked out to my phone at my desk, I called the mayor, and he said, I'm on the way downtown, I'll meet you at seven-world trade. That was where the emergency command center was for the city. So I got dressed, because I was standing there taking a shave when this happened. I got dressed and I was down to the entrance of Vessie Street

probably within seven or eight minutes. Got down to the corner, came down West Broadway, went to turn on the Vessi and the word cops there. And the sergeant came up to my vehicle, saw me in the back seat, I had my window down, saluted me and said, boss, you can't get onto the block, they're jumping. And I didn't know what he meant. From the building.

Yeah. I got out of the vehicle, walked to the corner of Vessy. And I could see there's debris coming off the building. And then it's, you know, within seconds, I realized that the debris that I saw coming off the building wasn't really debris, it was people. And they were coming down to a three at a time. So we back the vehicles up West Broadway to Barcl Berkeley, waiting for the mayor in about three minutes before he arrived, the second plane blew through the north side of the tower. So when you see that big orange fireball blow out

the north side of Trade Center II, I was standing under that fireball. And we were looking up and I didn't know, I didn't know what the time was that was because I didn't under that fireball and we were looking up and I didn't know I didn't know what the time what that was because I didn't see that plane that plane came in from the southern end of Manhattan and then I could hear the aviation pilots our pilots the helicopter pilots and the NYPD yelling that a second aircraft had just hit tower two so it was. So it was at that moment that I realized that we were under attack. We didn't know anything about DC. Didn't know anything about the Pentagon

hadn't happened yet. None of that stuff. That was another half hour behind us. The mayor got there in about three minutes. We looked at the front of the building. The mayor wanted to go down to West Street. We literally walked to West Street over by the financial center. Looked at the damage to Tower 1 and 2 from that side of the street. And then I brought him back to exactly where we picked him up at Barkley and West Broadway So he could call the White House. He wanted to call the White House He wanted to call President Bush and ask for air support and We were in that we were in that office with the mayor and my executive staff some of the deputy mayors went tower two imploded and it was was only about

when towers were too imploded. And it was only about a hundred yards from us. So they're there. So basically it imploded on top of us. Pretty, pretty, I mean, everybody remembers where they were at with 9-11. Everybody remembers where they were at with 9-11. What I want to do is, I want us to talk about, some of the numbers came up here about New York

and the crime rate, what's going on over there. I want you to kind of give us, what a day, because I know even right now, your son's a cop in Jersey. And he's been one for a while. And I want people to know, what is the difference between being a cop today after the whole defunding police,

after the whole campaign of, you know, the way cops are being painted right now. If a story comes out that favors cops being bad, they'll highlight it all over the place. If a story comes out that favors cops being bad, they'll highlight it all over the place. If a story comes out with the cops doing the right thing, it may get the shared in a couple places, but they're not going to share it. So it's only the bad part that they're shown with cops.

Right. What is the difference between being a cop in the 80s, 90s versus being a cop in 2021, 2020? I think the biggest difference is the public image of policing has changed and because of this radical left-wing movement, you know, what I think is a pretty substantial push for socialism in the country. You know, back in the 80s, 90s, 70s, police officers, male, female, they were respected in

the community. In your classrooms, your children were taught, you know, cops are the good guys. They go out and they do a job that a lot of people wouldn't do. A lot of people wouldn't have the courage to do. They're underpaid, they're understaffed. And people respected them, just like you respected people in the military. Over the last 20 years or so, especially the last 10,

over the last 10 years, 12 years, that's all changed. And there's been this major push by the radical left to demonize police. And we have a lot of this going on right now, especially in major cities. In what's ironic, it's those major cities that have this push to victimize the thugs and villainize the cops. It's those major cities that are run in a manner, contrary to the way Giuliani ran New York City, and their violent crime, their shootings, their murder rates are through the roof,

because there is no accountability, because they're not enforcing the laws, because they have because they're not enforcing the laws, because they have district attorneys that are being funded by these radical left-wing organizations, Soros. Soros funded the guy in Philly, the DA. He funded the woman in St. Louis. There's a bunch of these district attorneys in cities around the country that are not

prosecuting people to break the law. And then you have legislators that create laws and governors sign off on them like in California. You know, you could walk into a CVS in California and steal $995 worth of goods and walk out and you cannot be charged. Anything under a thousand dollars can be charged. Wait, can you say that one more time? Say that one more time. So you can go in and basically steal up to $999 worth of material out of a store

and nobody's gonna charge you with a crime. This is what city, what state? This is California, in California. California today. Tell me that is not the most pathetic thing you've ever heard. I can go into a store. This is a long California. No, it's, yeah, it's lost.

In prosecutors will not process. So what is it, anything less than a thousand? Anything less than a thousand. So that's, so why does anyone just go into any store and just, yeah, I'm taking this right. Well, pretty much they are in a bunch of stores are closing down. But here's the problems.

What you have now is a three pronged problem. You have legislators and governors that are enacting legislation that handcuffs the cops, that bail reform, these bail reform laws, you can't hold anybody that you're locking up anymore. That's number one, number two, the prosecutors, they're targeting cops more than they're targeting bad guys. And I think the third thing is handcuffing the cops in general where

you have like for example in New York City you have the mayor of New York City who's basically during the riots last summer told the cops take a light touch the blasio the blasio take a light touch on crime so you have all that going on and then you got this this push by Black Lives Matter and Antifa, primarily Black Lives Matter in groups like that, where they're creating this vision that there's systemic racism in policing in that, primarily target blacks and brown people to go out and shoot them, right? Without cause. And I actually said something to Sam.

I don't know if you guys got it. You got that? Yeah, they're going to bring up something. I want to show you because these are real numbers, okay? Real numbers that are going on right now, these are numbers I'm gonna show you for 2020. Okay. And in doing that, you know, if you listen

to the mainstream media, if you listen to what's being reported, you'll hear people say that cops, you know, they shoot unarmed blacks far more than they shoot unarmed whites, okay? So I'm gonna show you something. Add a close to 50 million police suspect interactions, 50 million, 50 million, there's 10 million arrests in the country last year.

2020, 2020. Okay, so 20% of interactions leading to a arrest. 10 million arrests, they fatally shot, police fatally shot, at a 10 million arrest, they shot 1,021 people. Okay, right. Out of that number, fatally shot, 983 were male, 38 female, 457 were white, 243 were black, 170 Latino, 151 other. But here's the interesting number, especially

given what you hear in the media, unarmed suspects, unarmed, 24 white, 18 black, eight Hispanic, five other, the percentage, the status coming from where this is coming from, so that the arrest numbers are coming from the FBI. Okay. Those fatally shot numbers that coming from the Washington Post, which keeps a major Washington post. That's right. They keep a major database on fatality shootings dating back to 2015. Okay. Washington Post is not friends at a cops.

No, they're not. They're on the left. Yes. Okay. Those are the numbers. The chances of you being shot as a black male today unarmed based on last year's numbers is 0.001 eight. Really?

That's systemic? That's systemic racism. Come on. And here's the bottom line. Cops don't go to communities based on race. They go to communities based on race, they go to communities based on crime. What they do is they take a map of a city. They put a map of a city on a computer like this. They pin map where that crime is happening. The dispatching of the police, the police resources, the funding,

everything is focused on where the crime is. There's nothing on there that says, what color you are in the community. There's nothing on there that says what religion you are, where you come from, whether you're a citizen or not, nothing. It's strictly based on crime. So when you look at that big crime map, this is where the crime is. That's where the cops are going. And unfortunately, you have cities today like Atlanta, Baltimore, Minneapolis, Chicago,

New York City. They're all every single one of those cities are run by a Democrat. They're run by a Democrat and every single one of them are facing the same issues. The highest violent crime, highest murder rates, highest shooting rates, and there's between the laws, between the prosecutors in handcuff in the cops, those numbers are going to continue. Okay. Do you have questions on my question? in the cops, those numbers are going to continue. Okay, do you have questions on that? I do, I've got some stats I want to cover. Go, go, I do have some questions on myself.

If you have questions, go on the questions. Well, I do, and this is, I've seen your interview that you did with a vice, which was very powerful. Right, right, and have you seen that, Pat? No, I have not. Really powerful, so, this is specifically talked about on-arm shootings, right?

But you've been actually, so I'm almost, this is a question, but it's also kind of seeing your praises, but also maybe just kind of trying to understand the logic here. You're basically saying that there's not systemic racism in the police force, especially when it's concerned with on-arm shootings. Right. Or violence. Okay. Violence.

According to your vice interview, you know, you were very outspoken that there definitely needs to be prison reform. Right. And the steps that are... And you were actually vocal about how blacks were in the system sort of targeted judicially, unfairly. So here's the problem. And not only am I an advocate under a president Trump,

he signed the first step act. I was pretty instrumental in getting that past. I was actually in the Oval Office with him when he signed the bill. And that was to basically create incentives, good time incentives for inmates in federal prison, so they would get out sooner without keeping them locked away forever.

And a bunch of other things, but to go to your question, here's my problem with the system. You take areas like, let's take Baltimore, for example. The DEA goes in and they do these things, right? Where they're gonna lock up really bad guys. Guys are engaged in violence, guys are bad guys. I have no problem with going after the bad guys,

the really bad guys, if they're authentically, you know, the villains, right? But when you have young kids today, 18, 19, 17 years old, they go out there buying dime bags of cocaine, right? And they get caught up in these conspiracies with these other bad guys. Well, guess what? They get charged with the same amount of weight and they get caught up in these conspiracies with these other bad guys. Well guess what?

They get charged with the same amount of weight that the bad guy did. If the guys doing two kilos a week and you went out and bought three dime bags in a week and they saw you and they witnessed it and they college you for those three buys, you get charged with the two kilos. How's that even possible?

Well, that's the whole. What's the logic in that? Like a very big risk? There is no logic. There is no logic, and that's my argument. So what you do is you then take that young kid who had no prior record, you lock him up, and you basically say, look, you're looking at life

because that two kilos that get you life, you're looking at life because that two kilos that get your life, you're looking at life, take a plea for 10 years. And your defense lawyer, most of them are provided by the courts, he says, you gotta take the deal. Take the deal, you'll be fine. 10 years, you're not doing a life 10 years. You're 18, you'll be out 20. You're 18, you'll be out 20, 26, just take the deal.

Okay, great. You sign a plea for 10 years. You do eight. You had no criminal record, you had no criminal background, you're not a bad kid, but guess what we did. We took you and we put you into a system that's full of monsters, right? What is prison? Prison is a training ground for thuggery, criminality. You learn how to steal, cheat, lie, manipulate. It's like business school for thugs. It's a business school for thugs and violence, right? You need to survive. You need to learn how to fight. You get into a verbal altercation and You know the end of that is usually somebody getting knife to pummeled cut That's the bottom line. That's what we did. We took that that 18 year old kid who had no violence no problems

We put him into the system and then at 26 we sent him home and legislators in Washington have sat around and circled jerks for the past 30 years. They can't figure out why the recidivism rate is in dropping. What's his word recidivism? Revisiting Revisiting. Revisiting. Revisiting jail. Yeah. Right. So the recidivism rate is't dropping because these guys have no choice but the river to crime. They come out of the 26 years and I had kids in Prison that I was teaching classes to and I would say you know, you got to get your GED

You got to you got to try to get some college when you get out and they would look at me and they'd say commission I'm black. I'm a convicted felon. I'm not gonna be able to get a job. That GED's not gonna help me. And here's the sad thing, for the most part, they're right. They're right, they're right. Well, the question for you, because when you have a felony on your record,

you're fucked. No, you're fucked? Yeah. And they know it. Right. And they know it. Right. And they know it. So it's like, all right, what's the point of getting the GD, the high school degree? Because once I'm a felon, that's going to follow me for life.

Any job they ask you. Any person. Have you ever been convicted of a felony? Yes. Fuck that candidate. I mean, is that the best you know what happens? That's exactly what happens. It's very sad.

Nobody gets it. Nobody, you know, everybody talks a good game in the legislators. You know, we're, you know, we want to do this. We want to do this. You know what, you know, getting that first debt back signed by President Trump. It was a major headache. If it wasn't for Jared Kushner and in a whole cadre of people around him that fought like hell with these legislators, that thing would have never got signed.

Never. And it's still not enough. It's far from enough. But Obama was doing stuff too. I know you're not a fan of Obama, but I know you've got work. I worked with the Obama administration, trying to get it done.

Trying to get it done. I spent, I was in the White House physically four or five times during the Obama administration, trying to get it done, trying to get these guys to work together. And you know, listen, I am, I am, these days, I think everybody, and you know, for the exception of maybe five people out of all of Congress,

you know, the senators, the congressmen, they're all full of shit, you know, they tell you one thing privately, they, you know, oh, it's congressman, they're all full of shit. You know, they tell you one thing privately. They, you know, oh, it's the right thing to do. You're right. You're 100% right. You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. They walk out the door, they stand up at a press conference and they say, well, we're

not sure. We don't know. We'll have to look at it. You know, there are issues. They have to kind of defend defender position, their political party. They have to, not only defender position, but they're basically, you know, some guy didn't sign off in a bill that this guy wants.

Well, it's revenge time, so now I'm gonna not, I'm not gonna sign his shit because he didn't sign mine. It's pretty ugly. Let me just, some people are asking right now, saying, Pat, fact check, fact check, fact check. I'm gonna give you some stories here. An Instagram post when viral the other day, right? It had 118,000 likes, Kai, whatever the number was

with a post on the days without police killings in 2021. USA Today's story. If you can pull up that Instagram post so people can see it, the claim on April 18th that had only been three days in 2021 Will police did not kill someone okay in a wake of high profile fatal shootings at the hands of law enforcement and areas such as Columbus, Ohio, Chicago Some years has had taken a social media highlight number of police related shootings in the first quarter of 2021 One-wide viral post presents statistics on the matter that have only been three days if you want to pull it up

There have only been three days in 20 to among page seven. There have only been three days, if you want to pull it up, there have only been three days in 20, I'm on page seven. There's only been three days in 2021 where police did not kill someone. Reads an April 20th Instagram post with over 118,000 likes. While the data presented in the claims is accurate based on US today's research, experts note that there are certain factors to keep in mind with their looking at such data, as state law standards and police department policies which government were police is allowed to use deadly force officers legally are given the authority to use deadly force to defend themselves or others from an imminent threat when we dig into this data what we see most of the time is

that the person was posing some time of deadly threat some type of deadly threats that's just in Justin Nick and associate professor of criminology and criminal justice at the University of Nebraska. This continues to go to New York. I don't know if you can find a poster or not, Kai. Okay, why don't you just, when you click on it, does it go somewhere or no?

Whether it says Instagram post, click on that. There you go, that's the dates, okay? So 118,000 likes. It shows three days, which was January 14th, January 16th, January 23rd, March 2nd, the only three days that somebody didn't die. More of those three days, I don't say I can't see so good. Great. If you look at gray at zero, so it's January 23rd and March 3rd.

It could be. It could be. But by the way, if you look at this number and the data that you gave, the data that you gave was what? It was. 1021, which divided by 365 is about three a day. Three a day. Okay, so the average is three a day, which means you're going to have some zeros, but you're going to average around one to three a day. One to three a day in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, but that's, here's where people, they have no fucking common sense. Think of the numbers, okay? 10 million arrests.

This, that's, that's people that's 20. That's physically people that are arrested, okay? To get to that number, you're gonna have five to 10 times the interactions. You don't arrest everybody, you stop, right? So you have five to 10 interactions per arrest, okay? So between 50 million interactions, you have 10 million arrest, you have 1,021 people fatally shot, okay?

That's two or three a day. In 50 states, and there's 850,000 police officers. That is far from systemic. But people don't, they don't get it. You're saying it's a spin job. It's a big spin job, you know, this is data. You live in a world where it's all about data. It's all about data, right? So we're in a big spin job. You know, this is data. You live in a world where it's all about data. It's all about data, right?

So we're in a king right here. Yeah, no, he is the data king. So when you look at stuff like this, you have to look at it realistically. Not through the scope of some right wing or left wing lunatic, the bottom line is look at the data. You can't hide dead bodies. You can't. You cannot hide dead bodies. You can't.

You cannot hide dead bodies. You cannot hide, I mean, it's not tough to come up with a statistic of how many times a police has had an interaction with somebody. That's an easy data to pull nowadays and how many times it's led to an arrest, 50 million to 10 million, that's 20%. By the way, I went online while he's given me the numbers,

I'm doing my own research. So if you're listening to this, you ought to be doing the same thing as well. The Washington Post article I found, you can easily find the article. Because some people are saying, give me the link, go online, type in the numbers, you'll find it. Matter fact, Kai, why don't you share the articles that they can find as well? I want to continue. I want to continue with this. Okay. Because this obviously got a lot of interaction. This got a lot of people to be talking about it. Can you go to changes Instagram? I want to

know, go to change, click on that right there, you go to it. So change is sustainable fabrics, fair trade production, carbon neutral clothing. Turn it so, okay, so we already know what they stand, be critical of right wing, government and Israel. Okay, we know where they stand. So let me read this other article that has, this is a New York Post article about New York, data proves it. Pandemic is no excuse for New York City's rising tide of violent crime. Earlier this month, four New Yorkers were shot dead and four incidents with 24 hours

followed by a triple shooting in Times Square. This is a 1980s-level crime and the city is getting used to it. What alarming, alarming alert city. Alarcity, like a little. No, it's not a large city. Alacrity. Alacrity alacrity meridabla meridabla you answer to this

is that there's not much we can do our entire lives return upside down a global band pandemic and a perfect storm he says so he hasn't acted with much urgency as the murder rate rose forty seven percent last year to total of four hundred sixty eight people killed and he has risen this year so far by 17%. This is just New York is what we're talking about.

The rest of the world is demonstrating the obvious. Murders and other crimes should be down during a pandemic, right? Look at the statistics here. So folks, if you're listening to this, New York is up. The rest of the world is down. In London, the murder rate fell 16% during the pandemic. In Italy, it dropped by 14% in Japan. It dropped by 10% in France.

It dropped by 2%. And even in Mexico, it dropped by half a percent. So what is wrong with us? Not just New York, but the country as a whole with urban murder rates up 30% last year. One answer is that compared to Europe and Japan, we have more guns. That's been a crisis for decades. Yet, it is a new.

What is new in New York and the rest of the country is that we have effectively halted all preventative policing. We have also effectively stopped all incarceration of suspects in criminal short of murder. So what do you have to say to this article by New York Post? What did say 470, I'm a size, 48, 460 last year, not like 47%. Okay, so let me give you a number.

In 1993, there were 2,200 murders in New York City. 2,200 in 1993, okay? There was no fucking pandemic. This ain't about a pandemic. This is about thugs being victimized. This is about an administration, the Blasios administration, that has handcuffed the cops.

He took a billion dollars out of their budget. He took 600 plain clothes, anti-crime cops off the streets. When you work in plain clothes and I work plain clothes as a cop, okay. I'm not talking about narcotics. If you're in a plain clothes unit in New York City, you're a whole new explain what a plain clothes is to folks who don't know what's plain clothes. All right. Let me give you an example. Times Square, okay.

Where we first met first time I ever met you was in Times Square. Yeah. Taxi, first time I ever met you, it was in Times Square. Taxi, yellow cabs, everybody sees a yellow cab in Times Square. Well, let me tell you, an old trick, I'll give you some old trivia. If you see a cab in the number on the cab, the middle letter was an R, and the last two numbers were the same, right, on that cab. The three people that's riding in that cab, usually there'll be a driver and two people

in the back seat, those are cops, okay. They're in plain clothes, they're in yellow cabs, or they're in plain clothes, they're in unmarked cars. When you say plain clothes, they're dressed like you, they're dressed like normal cabs. Usually it's jeans, sneakers, a vest, you know, a jacket, whatever the case may be, they blend in, they look like anybody else, may have a vest, a jacket, whatever the case may be. They blend in, they look like anybody else,

may have a beard, not beard, whatever. Bottom line, here's their job. Their whole function in life is to look for guns and respond to what we call hot jobs. Robert and progress, shooting and progress, shots fired, somebody getting stabbed whatever the case may be their job is violence that's all their job is build the blasio took six hundred of them all of them all the plain clothes units in

New York City took them off the street six hundred of them. Why would he do something like that? He put them back in uniform. Why? What's the message out there? He said there were a threat to the communities. In what way? I don't know. I don't, I don't, what's the speculation though? Even the speculation, what is the speculation? Why speculation is he's a moron?

That's my speculation. It's very deeper. Okay. He's got to have some justification like for, I don't care what it's. He's got to look at stats. I don't care what his stats is. I don't care what it is.

I don't know, I'm asking. Well, because because it's like it's almost like it's not fair People should know your cop you shouldn't be hiding like you're not a cop maybe that's what it is like transparency I look the whole point of being undercover Here's the bottom line He takes a billion dollars out of the budget. He takes 600 cops out of the streets playing close unit cops He takes 600 cops out of the streets, playing closed unit cops. Their whole function of life is to look for guns,

takes them out and basically opens up rikers, lets people off rikers, institutes these laws with the city council and the governor where they're not gonna, all the things that Pat just talked about, right? You know, they're not locking them up, they're letting them out, they're not holding them for bail, all that stuff. So here's the bottom line. Would you say the numbers last

year, 660, 460, 468, 468, 262, 200 and 1993. Okay. Between 1993, I left office in 2002, January 2002. We dropped that homicide number from 2200. I walked out of office, I think my number was 671. Under Mayor Bloomberg, we got it down to 371, 371, something like that. We had, I had a 65% reduction in violent crime, a 70% reduction in violent crime, a 70% reduction in homicide, and an 80% reduction in homicide

in the black communities where the violence was the highest. So what did you do during that time that they can be doing today? What were some of the strategies and tactics you guys used? Everything they're not doing today, which is what? Basically, I'd have plain clothes cops out there. If I was the police commissioner today, right, I would go to the mayor and say, I want the billion dollars back, I want two new classes of 2,000 each in class.

I want 4,000 more cops than you have. I had 55,000 people to work for me in the NYPD. 41,000 of those who were uniformed today, I think they're around 36,000. Why? You have a bigger population in New York City today than you did 20 years ago. Why do they have less cops working today?

That's crazy. And keep this in mind, here's what people, and in all those cities I mentioned earlier, whether it's Atlanta, Baltimore, these are gorgeous, some of these are gorgeous cities, right? Nobody wants to live, visit, work, or go to a school in a place where they're not safe. Nobody wants to move into a neighborhood

where they gotta put their kids to bed in bathtubs to protect them from gun violence. That's the bottom line. For every percentage point, Giuliani and I and the other commissioners, for every percentage point we reduced violence and homicide, I could show you increases in economic development, real estate value, and tourism. Every percentage of it. Wow. It's up, it is the bottom line. You know, a lot of the advocates in these left wing lunatics

will get jump on this totem pulse. And this is all socioeconomic. We need better jobs. We need better schools. We need whatever we need. They'll talk all this shit, right? Bottom line is, you're not getting none of that. You're not getting none. You're not getting better jobs. You're not getting better schools. As long as you have the highest violence and crime and the highest

murder rate in your city, you're not getting none of that other stuff. I would somebody build a small business over there. What risk am I going to take? That's exactly right. Who's going to put a business there? Who's going to create jobs? You think Apple is going to put a flagship store on the south side of Chicago? No. The not. The bottom line is you have to fix the violence and the murder rate. So let me continue because, okay, so Bernard, to be fair with the audience, you would consider yourself a Republican. You would say you're Republican yourself.

Okay, so you're Republican. New York Post is a center-right newspaper. A post is New York Times left, New York Post is right. Let's just kind of, so I just read to you stats from New York Post. So somebody may say, and USA Today is left, but New York Post is right. USA Today. I send a message. I send a message.

I say USA Today is center left. I think Wall Street Journal today is center, center right. Yeah, so New York Post is right. Now, next one, NPR. What is NPR? Far left. Certainly left. Far left, right?

So this next story I'm reading to you is from NPR. Massive one year rise in homicide rates collided with the pandemic in 2020. This is an NPR story and they have a data. If you want to pull up that link right there so they can see it open for visual data guy, pull it up so they can see it. At the end of 2020, Chicago police reported more than 750 murders. Okay, this is 2020 during the pandemic.

A jump of more than 50% compared to 2019. People will out and about in 2019. People stayed home in 2020. How the hell is murders up 50% in Chicago from 2020 to 2019? By mid-December, L.A LA saw rise of 30% over the previous year with 322 homicides There were 437 homicides in New York City by December 20 it nearly 40% higher than previous year New Orleans based data consultant Jeff Asher study crime rates in more than 50 cities and says the crime spikes aren't just happening in big cities. With the numbers of homicide spike in in many places, Asher expects the final statistic

for 2020 to tell a startling grim story. We're going to see historically the largest one-year rise in murder that we've ever seen. Asher said it's been more than half a century since the number, since the country saw a year-to-year murder rate that jumped nearly 13%. This is NPR. This isn't New York Post. This isn't Wall Street Journal. This is NPR.

And here's your answer. The answer is, it says not to do with the pandemic, in my opinion. This has to do with every one of those cities where I was talking about, Chicago included. You know, Chicago, you're not allowed to chase a bad guy. You know that, right? You know the mayor said the mayor of Chicago,

the mayor of the mayor of the mayor of the mayor of the Mario Bowser, says, you can't, you have to get permission from a supervisor to run. We're not talking fucking car chases. We're talking about running after someone. You're not allowed to chase them unless you get a supervisor's permission. Okay, that's the kind of shit that is killing the police.

This hell does that even mean? You're not, what is your job? Well, I don't know. Guys come in and go crying, can I get an approval? Let me get approval from the top of management. 10 minutes later, the guy's already coming in a crime. No, you can't chase him in a car, you can't chase him on foot.

You can't confront him. There's no stop, question and frisk. Nobody wants that anymore. Basically, they don't want you to do anything. That's the problem. That's the problem. That's the problem. This is not about a pandemic. This is about a change in the way we deal

with the criminal element. Well, here's what Bloomberg comes out. And Bloomberg, we know the left-wing side, but they're pretty reasonable. I think when it comes out to economics, their center, I like to get Bloomberg's facts. But when it comes out to it, Bloomberg ran as a Democrat for office office and he's got a media empire

This is the story New York City's violent crimes is up Show us the cities police budget. Would you consider Bloomberg a decent mayor for New York City? He was he was okay fair enough so Protests calling to defund the police have become a familiar side of New York City But this you've made or the blast you way. One of America's most progressive cities will actually send more dollars to the NYPD than it did a year ago. This is a story from yesterday.

Despite promises to strip a billion dollars from city's law enforcement budget, which gained national attention and the wake of George Floyd's murder last year, de Blasio slash less than a half, less than a half that as part of a broader round of pandemic cuts and a spending plan for fiscal 2020 to announce this month, keeps police head, a headcount and operations intact, leaving

any major shakeups of the force up to whoever succeeds the term limit may or in January. But now, with shootings in March up 77% over last year, let me say that one more time. Shootings in March of 2021, up 77% from last year, and then influx of more than $4 billion in federal stimulus funds available for mental health, at-risk youth, and other social programs. The notion of taking police officers off the streets has become less politically palatable for the mayor, and the dozens or so candidates vying to replace him next year. New York as a largest police department in the u.s. and as amongst the highest number of officers per capita there were 436 officers per 100,000 in the city in 2019 compared to 249 in L.a. or 233 in

Houston according to the FBI. So even the blast you're sitting there saying maybe I screwed up. What do you think? Of course he screwed up and they all know it. Oh yeah, did do you think? Of course he screwed up and they all know it. All you had to do was look at Minneapolis. Minneapolis is the first one that started this whole defunding mess, right? They wanted to defund it, they wanted to diminish, they wanted to annihilate the police department. They defunded to an extent.

They also wanted to bring in social services instead of cops and all this nonsense, right? Well, last month or two months ago, they had to basically come out and say, okay, yeah, we screwed up. We got to refund what we defunded. We need 200 immediate cops back on the street. We need ABC. The bottom line is the funding isn't going to work. I don't know what the mentality was behind the funding, but it's not going to work.

Everything I predicted, when Minneapolis started the funding, everything I've said, everything I've predicted has come true. You defund, you diminish their budget, you take away staffing, you take away resources. And here's here's the absurd thing You take away their training, right? So for the past 30 years We've tried to train cops to do everything under the sun. You want de-escalation You want verbal judo. You want less lethal force. You want to give them non-lethal force tools You want less lethal force. You want to give them non-lethal force tools Every single thing that we've tried to give them to make their job better make them less

Confrontational make it work easier in communities Well now we're gonna to fund it. We're gonna take all that shit back really It makes it's absolutely It makes no sense. You know what I think about like a Soros? Imagine your cop working for the guy. What are you thinking? What are you thinking?

You're thinking there are morons. No, but, but, but, actually like literally, yes, you're thinking door morons, but what are you thinking? Are you sitting there saying, man, am I gonna do a bang up job for this guy? Like, imagine that relationship. Like, you know this guy cannot stand you.

This guy wants to get rid of you, but he also knows he needs you. But at the same time with the media, he's kind of have to. You're talking about the mayor right now? No, no, no, I'm talking about. I'm talking about. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, they have cops, they have drivers, the city officials, the mayor, he has a protective detail that probably ranges somewhere around 25 people.

Those cops that work for him despise him. Right. Right. I know many of them. I know many of them. They despise him. They can't stand him. And they can't stand them because he's anti-cop,

he's anti-PD, he hates them, he despises them. How do they work together? They're on a daily basis. But they have a job to do. They have a job to do. Just imagine like you're working for a guy that hates you, hates what you stand for. But on a personal level, they're not interacting.

And I think you have the city council in New York City, they basically brutalize the NYPD on a daily basis, brutalize them on a daily basis. How do you interact with them? You have a job to do. You go out and you do your job. It doesn't make any difference. Who's on the other end?

I respect the guys that are doing it. For me, when I joined the military, I knew nothing about it. When I went to the military, it wasn't because my dad was a general or Sarmadjaro. I'm gonna go follow my dad's footsteps. I went to military because I couldn't wait to get out of LA and I just got in and I went into the army

and I realized what some of these guys had to do and the sacrifices they made. My appreciation for, you know, soldiers went to hold it from level. A lot of what they have to sacrifice. Cops, man, who the hell wants to be a cop today? Who wakes up in the morning, wanting to be a cop today?

And today, your son is a cop in Jersey, right? In Newark. What's he telling you? What's he saying? Does he tell you what's changed in the last 12 months on how much crazier it is, how they treat him, that they treat him with respect as he's seeing some?

Well, I gotta be honest, his supervisors in Newark, his boss, actually, who just retired. Anthony Ambrose was the police director in Newark until about a month ago. And I have to admit, in the last, I think, two years, Anthony Ambrose brought down Newark's violent crime, the lowest it's been in 50 years 40 years Tremendous job, but how did he do it? He did it exactly the way New York City dropped crime over the last 20 years right prior to the Blasio Same stuff phenomenal boss my son, you know has a lot of respect for him what he did

during his time. Norricks a rough place. It's one of the most violent crime-ridden cities in the state of New Jersey. He happens to be on their SWAT team. He's been on the team. He's a team leader. He's been on their team for about 10 years. He's crazy. He's 35, 36 years old. he's been on the job 16.

Looks just like you by the way. No, you know, yeah. We're looking a lot of fucking guy. You know, yeah, a lot of a lot of his, he became a couple of his 20 years old. He became a company. He's 19. One on the job when he was 19. He started in Patterson, which was another rough place. You know, it's funny. It's from Patterson in Jersey. Is that where Cory Booker's from? No, Cory Booker's from Newark. Newark, all right.

There it is. I was born in Newark and I was raised in Patterson. And yeah, he went on 19 in Patterson. And then he got laid off. And the father that I am, I'm thinking, I get him the great job in Ridgewood, New Jersey, gorgeous town, small town, make good money. I call them up to my house and I had him sit down and I said, listen, dude, where do you want to go?

I said, I got some great recommendations. He goes, no, I know where I'm going. I said, where are you going? He said, I'm going to Newark. I said, what are you going? He said, I'm going to Newark. I said, what do you all fucking drugs like? Newark? Like, what's the matter with you? You're going to Newark?

Yeah. He goes, I said, think of the money. Like, these other cops make a third more than you do. He said, I laugh and he says, yeah. I'm talking to the guy that was the warden of the Pasey County jail and left and went bankrupt to join the NYPD. I said, okay, all right, yeah, granted.

But think of the violence, think of the violence. And this is his response to me. He says that when your wife has geese and a swimming pool out back, she calls the cops. He goes, I'm not chasing Geese around a fucking swim. He goes, I can't do it. He says, I gotta, he says, I can't do it. He says, I just gotta, you know, I like, he's got a need for speed.

I like what I do. I like the guy who wants to go. Genetics, genetics. I would have been the Geese guy. I'm not gonna lie. I would have been the Geese guy. I'm not gonna lie Today, baby, we got 16 geese right Writing over the geese guy, you know today By the day did you see the kid? Did you see the kid and the teacher having a you know

He's not a kid 19 year old in 19 year young adult who had the exchange with his teacher where the teacher was Stained bad things about the cop that Scott was defending it Did you see that exchange? Yes, did you see it? You haven't seen it? Can you put that video on I want to show this is two minutes? I want you to watch it so the teacher and another student are Not for the cops this one student stands up and says I think cops have a very hard job Okay, Pat or can he there's something else though that you should look at. Just to show your viewers the mentality of the far left. In that case, that was a professor.

Professor. That was a professor in a college. Okay, that's number one. But number two, there's a car stop. There's a car stop that went viral about a week ago. And in that car stop, there is a teacher. We showed that last week. We showed that last week.

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We showed that last week. We showed that last week. We showed that's seen it. So, so, Kai, do me a favor. Do the playback speed increase that to teacher. Because the whole reason we have police departments in the first place, we're going to the stem from what's our history going back to what Jermino's I thought, what does it stem from? It stems from people in the South wanting to capture around a way slaves. Maybe they should be heroes, maybe they don't belong on a kid show. So I disagree with the what Jermino said about it because I think cops are heroes and they have to have a difficult job, but we have to have a lot of time. Oh, I mean, I'd say a good majority of what you have, you have that people in every business and every part of the world. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Police officers have committed the treacherous crimes

and have gotten away with that and have never been convicted of any of it. And I think for a person who has family members, who are police officers. This is a teacher, professor. Hey, how do you understand? And this is what I believe this is my opinion. And this is, you know, my popular say,

but I do support our beliefs. And we have that people in the group. People that do bad things should be brought to justice. I agree with that. But I think that, say I'm saying it again. They have. Well, I agree with you. I'm not point of, they should.

So what is your bottom line point? You're saying police officers should be revered? You're very angry. I think it's true. I think it's true. I think it's true. I think they are heroes in a sense because they come to your need and they come and help you.

And they have problems just like every other business, but we should fix that. But they're heroes. Looking at it as a business because they're actually supposed to protect and serve the people. We call when we're in trouble and someone has a knife or a gun. What would you call the police? I don't trust them. My wife said more danger call and their presence professor. Who would you call? I wouldn't call anybody. Fucking not. See she's a fucking not this you know, how do you do?

I'm not At least it's kind of just you know and I know that it's not popular for me to say that to you guys and then people in here But that's what I believe about the police. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate it You've got to respect this guy, though, man. Just hold it. second. Probably 19 years old, if you want to posit, probably 19 years old, taking a stand and saying that and the teacher saying I wouldn't call the cops. What do you mean you're not gonna call the cops? When you call the cops, it's not a Republican or Democrat.

I'm just not gonna call the cops. Can I ask you a couple of rapid fire questions? I'm sure we gotta move on, rapid fire. Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing. Give a grade to Mayor Giuliani, Mayor Bloomberg, and Mayor Bill DeBlasio. Giuliani Giuliani, Mayor Bloomberg, and Mayor Bill de Blasio. Giuliani, a 10, Mayor Bloomberg. I'd say 10.

Mayor de Blasio, two. Why is he not a one? He's a fucking zero. I mean, you know, I don't know. Giuliani, I fall from grace, that's a question mark. No, you think you still doing all right. He's doing fine I got a little bit of daily basis. He's doing okay. Okay a couple rapid fire questions magic wand magic wand If you could change the image of the police, how would you do it? I wouldn't I changed the image of the communities I'd start teaching young kids today that you can't

I changed the image of the communities. I'd start teaching young kids today that you can't violate the law, that you can't attack cops, that you can't resist arrest. You can't interfere with another arrest. I'd start teaching kids in the communities things that maybe they don't know, maybe they do, but the bottom line is,

many of the interactions that go negative and policing, they start with a suspect that did something wrong or is suspected of doing something wrong, and then they resist. And if they didn't resist, we wouldn't have that the overall confrontation. Our cops asked to do too much. Yeah, honestly, they're asked to do a lot.

I wouldn't say too much. They do the best they can under the circumstance. Okay, last question. You were the commissioner of New York City, NYPD, AKA Gotham. You got Batman, you got Robin right behind you. They were running the streets of Gotham. What are your thoughts on what's going on behind you?

Um, you know, it's a crazy time. Crazy world. No, literally behind you, right? Oh, no, I like this guy better. I like this guy better. I like this guy better. You're like Batman better than the joke. So let's talk about what's going on with Israel and Palestine.

Yes, sir. I think a lot of people are asking us to talk about that topic and I think we need to, especially Adam, you haven't been there multiple times and you've been your family from Israel. Yeah, so let's go to page 11. Here we go, page 11. Is it page 11 or is it page 12? 12, okay, page 12.

Senior Hamas commander killed as Israel strikes Gaza, Palestine's fire rockets. This is a roeder story. The worst violence since 2014 between Israel and Palestinians showed no sign of letting up winds that continued Israeli attacks and Hamas rocketed the rocket fires prompted the U.S. and the United Nations to warrant a conflict with mushroom into full scale war. Israeli bombing, Israel's bombing campaign in Gaza has now killed 53 people, including 14 children, injured more than 300 people according to the Gaza-based Palestinian health

ministry. Israel's Shinbeth Security Service said the brigade commander of Gaza City was among senior members of Islamists. Islamists, militant group Hamas who had been killed. Militants in Gaza have fired more than a thousand rockets into Israel killing six Israeli civilians injuring more than two hundred others the Israeli military said when they run 130 rockets hit Tel Aviv last night forcing Israel's main international airport Ben-Gurion to close many of the rockets were intercepted by Israel's iron dome

Which by the way what a system they have to with the iron dome air defense system But several struck Tel Aviv, setting a bus of blades and killing one Israeli woman thousands of Israel spent the night in bomb shelters in Gaza, which has few bomb shelters and no air defense system. Several buildings and apartments were damaged by Israeli air strikes. One of those strikes brought a multi-story tower block

tumbling down the Israeli Defense Forces set the building with strong cold of Hamas military intelligence and weapon research. I will go to you first Adam. Tell us what are your thoughts on this. Well, obviously it's tragic what's going on. Go a little deeper. Tell us what's going on. Yeah, of course this is a sad situation, but unfortunately it's nothing new. All right, I mean this is the first flare-up in since what 2014, but I think we've all seen what's going on with Israel and Palestine, and it stemmed from the war in 1948, the Six Day War, when Israel became a

state, and Egypt and Jordan, and Palestinians everyone attacked them, and in six days, this little country called Israel, defending themselves, and they did it in the war of 67 and 71 and just the Yom Kippur War and somehow this little magical country Israel exists in the sea of Muslim countries all around them. So first and foremost Israel does have a right to defend himself. Let me just state that. Number two, this is not a black and white issue. So me being Jewish, like obviously people are gonna say, oh, you're biased, and that's obviously you're gonna, you know,

support Israel, but I will say that there are parts of Israel that I don't necessarily agree with. So for instance, the Palestinian, the Israeli settlements that they're trying to essentially take over from these Palestinians families who have been there forever. These settlers are definitely aggressive and it's hard not to sympathize with somebody

who's been living in the same house for decades. And now settlers come in and say, well, the government says that's my house now and thank you for being here. What the hell would you do if you lived in that house for 30, 40, 50 years and you're Palestinian, you think you're giving your house up without a fight? Are you kidding me?

So that's on a micro issue. From a macro perspective, here's how I kind of look at it. You know, they say like, don't bring a knife to a gun fight. Well, Palestinians are bringing rocks to a literal rocket fight. So I use this analogy with Ricky the other day. He's like, what the hell's going on there? Ricky's a big dude. And it'd be like if Dylan, because Dylan was there, kept coming up to Ricky. He was a big guy and hitting him and punching him and kicking him. Yeah, he's only seven years old. But at some point, you're gonna hit back. So, you know, Palestinians are throwing rocks, you know,

they're literally launching rockets, and Israel is gonna only take it to a certain extent when they said, listen, you do that again, and we're gonna, excuse my language, kick your fucking ass. And that's essentially what happened. That's essentially what Nihau said. Yes, exactly. So at some point, if, you know, and not comparing Palestinians

to a seven-year-old, but in terms of strength, there are no comparison to what the Palestinian or the PLO or Hamas has compared to what Israel has. But at some point, look, it's such a tough situation that I do actually sympathize with the Palestinians. And I've been to Israel, I'm Jewish, I have family that lives in Israel, I have a cousin of mine who moved from Detroit

to join the IDF. So yes, I have some bias here, but I do understand the play of the Palestinians. If you're constantly a second-class citizen in where you live, how do you expect to react? So this goes down to another macro perspective, the one state or the two state solutions. So John Kerry, who was, was John Kerry secretary. Secretary of State. Okay. So he said the Jewish people cannot, if you do a one state solution,

you're familiar with a one state two state solution, if you do a one state solution, because there's more Arabs living in Israel than Jews. You said if you do a one-state solution, Israel can no longer be Jewish and or democratic. It cannot be both. So two-state solution both have the right to exist. The problem is, and I'll turn it over to Bernie after this, the problem is there's people in Hamas who are a terrorist organization

that are running the Palestinian terrorist. The United States has labeled the people running the Palestinian territory a terrorist organization, Hamas. They do not believe that Israel has a right to exist. Just like how in Iran, the people running the... Azerbaijan and army, there's a bunch of them

they can go to the slaves' places. They do not believe that Israel has the right to exist. So on a fundamental basis, if you do not believe that Israel has the right to exist. So on a fundamental basis if you did not believe in a country Yeah, if you're not exactly as a Azerbaijan as believe Armenia has a right to exist Yeah, if you're saying that you don't believe a country has a right to exist and you're doing everything To you serve their who's to blame you're though who's to blame here listen I understand that you know Trevor nor you know Trevor nor I don't know when you heard what he said You know he was like,

well, when I was younger and I was older's brother and I would beat up my younger siblings, my mom would say, but mom, they hit me first and mom would say, but that's your brother, why are you hitting them all of a sudden? So why are you hitting them? The difference here is, this is not your brother. This is not like, this is a very different story here. You know what, they're not hitting them either. The Hamas, I think you said, fired over a thousand rockets.

A thousand rockets. If it wasn't for the Iron Dome, they would have killed hundreds, hundreds of Israelis. Thousands of potentials. No, no, potentially thousands of them. Yeah, of course. Thousands of rockets, they shot, right? The bottom line is we're not talking about a fistfight

We're not talking about somebody getting hit. We're talking about deadly physical force Right if you infuse that force a few you go on. It doesn't matter who you are It doesn't matter who you are. It doesn't matter what the argument is you know There's ways to deal with the argument You know there's a hundred ways to deal with the argument And I think the UN for once should probably do a better job. They've never done a good job, but they should be doing more to rectify the internal issues, but the bottom line is, you can't shoot rockets into Israel, deadly rockets, and anticipate they're not going to shoot back.

Yeah, just think about like Netanyahu's press conference. Well, look, to the Israeli people I'd like to speak to you, I know we got bombed and I know we had 100 rockets that were shot our way in a span of five minutes or ten minutes, whatever the number was. They're smaller army than us. We shouldn't retaliate. God talked about forgiveness. You should forgive them. He would not be like, what I'm saying to you is forget its Netanyahu. Say Biden gives that speech. We're America.

Yes, 9-11 happened, but we shouldn't retaliate. No, no. This country is not going to... Say your, say your any country, if a prime minister says that, what do you say? You're the voter. You're fired. That's what you said. That's what I'm saying. You're a mother with three three kids and the only thing a mother thinks about what their kids is the S-word. What is it? Security and safety, right? You want me to sit there and say, well, Netanyahu, this is why this is really there. They're too aggressive. They're too distressed to that. What is the alternative? To look the other way when you're looking at what is is that going to cost a month and palestine to stop? No, they're not. They're going to continue doing what they're doing. So my my my

challenge with this is when you get into topics like this, you'll get people from both sides, you know, you're you're you're cannibalism, you said this can this is not about me taking Israel's side or Palestine's side. If you're going to do something like this, you best do something like this, no one you can beat Israel. You can't. If you're going to do something like this, you best do something like this. No one you can beat Israel. You can't. If you're going to start a fight, you better believe you can finish the fight. What is the point of starting a fight?

If you know, it's not going to favor you. Like it's emotion. Like something that I've had to learn here, being a part of our entertainment and everything is try to be more logical, not emotional. Can you imagine the emotion of somebody that killed my grandson? Then he took my house. If you're running on pure emotion, you think there's logic in behind their actions. They're mad.

They're angry. They're upset. They're still angry that someone killed their cousin from 40 years ago and they're harboring that anger. What do you expect them to do? No, I'm not defending. I'm not just about their actions of Armenian and Armenia went up against Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan's got five times amount of budget. You got with backing of air to gun Turkey. The

largest military in the Middle East while Putin doesn't have the backing of Armenia. Putin does business with Turkey. You think Putin's going to take the side of Armenia back him up. Who's going to defend Palestine and Hamas to say, hey, you're going to go up against Israel, we'll back you up and go defend a war against Israel. The most ridiculous Air Force in the world, one of the best military technology, Hamas the most insane secret intelligence. You want to go up against someone like the idea? The idea?

Well, it's a Bernie's point. And you bring up an amazing point here. The fact that Israel, 10 years ago, they invented this iron dome, which essentially is a missile defense mechanism that with 90 plus percent accuracy, you can shoot down rockets that are coming over its border. Imagine if they didn't have that. That's what I'm saying.

Imagine if they didn't have that. In thousands of missiles landed in the country. People are protesting Israel, they're using force, they're using force. Imagine a thousand people, that is what Israel, they're using force, they're using force. Imagine a thousand people, that's what Israel have the justification to do what they want to do. No, there's of course, but here's complete a different story here.

I'm gonna go a complete different angle. You know what that dome did to me when I saw it? What did it do to you when you saw that? Like forget about when you saw it. Like you know how you see it in a video is like boom, you're like, what did you think about when you saw that you I've seen that for years But I get that one when you see it. What do you think about the ridiculous technology? Okay, you think about safety you think about wow that's pretty sick you think about the direction we're going

Where security and safety from doing wars is gone meaning if you want to bomb a place those days the technology is getting so advanced that countries are going to be able to put a want to bomb a place those days, the technology is getting so advanced that countries are going to be able to put a bio, you know, this kind of a dome over a person. Yeah, but it's not a literal dome. I know. You know, people think about it. It's called a stink of this. Think of this. Yeah.

You know, and I have a lot of friends in the special operations community, right? Think of this today in Washington DC. Somebody could pick up a phone and call somebody in DC and say, we have a guy, this is his grid coordinates, he could be on the other side of the fucking universe. Some completely somewhere hidden, somewhere, wherever within 30 minutes. some completely like somewhere hidden somewhere wherever within 30 minutes. We the United States has an ability to drop a bomb on that guy's head. No matter where he is in the world, think about that. No matter where he is in the world. How do you feel here and now?

That the fact that we have these capabilities, I mean, it's ridiculous. It makes, doesn't make you feel safe. Does it make me feel safe that we could do something like that? I mean, doesn't make me feel unsafe. OK, no, but what I'm saying to you is the fact that folks in Israel, they ought to be grateful for the technology advancement

that that country's invested in to provide that kind of security because here's how small is Israel. Israel is not a big country. It's a size of like Delaware. Yeah, Israel is so tiny, it's ridiculous. And by the way, Palestine is even smaller. Like when you think about how small. And it's not, it's not also just wartime capability, right?

When the FBI had a hard time getting in the iPhones, right? Who'd they go to? They go to the Israeli. Well, there's an amazing book called Startup Nation that I read, I don't know, 10 years ago, and it talked about how this little, it's like the little engine that could, how this little country was able to manifest itself into this ridiculous, technologically advanced country. And I'll say one thing because I'm sure we'll move on to the next topic, but we were texting ironically yesterday or DMing yesterday on the plane.

You remember this? And we were talking about Israel and Tel Aviv. And you go, I guess we're not opening up a value table in office at Tel Aviv anytime soon, and I go, and I've been to Tel Aviv. Actually said the opposite. You said, I guess we are because opening up a value team in office at Tel Aviv anytime soon, huh? And I go, and I've been to Tel Aviv. Actually said the opposite. You said, I guess we are because of how safe it is. That's what I thought you were being sarcastic. No, no, I was saying the opposite. I was saying you would feel safe. But he's gonna check the make sure. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no you got a bio, if you got one of those don'ts that you're protected. But here's what I'll say about Tel Aviv.

I'm from Miami, I'm from Miami Beach. It's like Miami Beach, bro. Like you go to the beaches, you're having a great time, you go to the disco tacos, you're dancing, you're doing the, you're having fun. You're living a life that you would not think you're living in the Middle East. It's awesome.

Yeah, but Adam, you know what? That's all over the Middle East. You know, when we're watching, you're watching video of Syria, right? You're watching the bombs and, you know, knocking out the sites and doing all this other stuff. You go online, you go on Facebook, and you'll see people in Syria, they're having weddings, they're having parties, they're going out to restaurants and you're looking at this thinking, where the fuck is that guy? Because I just saw this morning. Yeah, lepo.

Right. I just saw this morning where they annihilated an entire city and this guy's getting married. You know, that's all over the Middle East. Why? Because it's the way they've learned to live. They have to live like this. You know, I worked for the King of Jordan for five years. And Jordan's a pretty secure country.

Jordan has been great for the last. It's been great years. But I was also there in November of 2005 when they bombed the three hotels, right? In all over this country, everybody was saying, oh my God, it's losing it. It's not going to be security more. There's no security in Jordan. And yet I was in Jordan, I don't know, 70 times over five years.

It's phenomenal. It was a phenomenal country. It's the way they've learned to live. It's the way they've learned to live. It's the way the Israelis have learned to live. They have, you know, you go into a mall in Tel Aviv, you're gonna be checked for weapons. You're gonna be checked for a vest. That's the way they're doing it.

And every, every Israeli citizen, it's on the, bless you. From the day they turn 18, has to join the IDF, it's really defense force, and everyone has guns, and the guns in the country, everyone has them, AK-47s, whatever it is,

and it's a very safe place, you feel very secure. So, as a Jew, you go there, and it's not what you, like for instance, the Jewish people in America, they kind of get this like- Everyone feels safe. No, not at all. Not at all.

It's like you're 47. Exactly. You feel like every Jew is like a mot green pig from a family guy and he only has to obviously, like that's what's, but they're freaking badass. It's ridiculous. I'm glad to see you never joined that military. I did meet some nice girls though.

You did. I can see that. How about we talk a little economy. I want to get two stories in the four-rebrack, but we got nine minutes. Okay, CNBC story, inflation speeds up in April as consumer prices leap 4.2% fastest since 2008. Now, when you read this story, 4.2% fastest since 2008 now

When you read this story this is the highest raise Rate of inflation over the past year jump from 4.22 from 2 4.2 from 2.6% a prior month highest since 2008 senior Federal Reserve official who are supposed to protect the US from high inflation insisting increases temporary they Contend inflation will subside by next year over the pandemic phase. Most people go back to work and global economy is largely recovered. Now here's some interesting statistic based on this,

on what increase? Energy prices overall jumped 25% from a year earlier. 49.6% increase for gasoline, 37.3% for fuel oil. Then on top of that, this is the random weird statistic. Used car and truck prices, which are seen as a key inflation indicator, surged 21%.

What the hell is used car prices going up 21%? Just in April alone? It increased by that little, you know, lemon you're gonna buy for $2,200, is officially $2,500, okay? That $10,000 truck you were gonna buy last year, this you're gonna have to pay $12,200 for a used car. So, you know, what's gonna happen with this,

are the rates gonna go up, is, you know, are they trying to kind of keep people calm with they don't want to scare anybody lumber prices alone have risen 124% in 2021 once again lumber prices alone have risen 144% what are they saying it's from though what are they saying they're just saying it's just temporary it's not because you know based on what and copper often has seen this proxy for economic activity has jumped nearly 36%. By the way, houses here, you know what kind of houses people are buying that they're moving here from New York or other places. They're wanting to buy homes that have already been fully built. The tear downs, they're not there's not too many tear downs. There's numbers ridiculous because of lumber being ridiculous prices and building pay

more. Exactly. Building costs going also. New York, you get a shoe box for a million bucks down here. You're living the good life. Yeah, building costs going. And also, in New York, you get a shoe box for a million bucks down here. You're living the good life. Yeah. You are living a pretty good life at a million bucks. So, but New Yorker, stay in New York. Inflation. No, no, right away.

Right the way. Cuff it out. You know, here's the problem with New Yorkers, people from Jersey, people from the Northeast. You want to go to Florida, because you feel safer. You want to go to Florida, because the,. You want to go to Florida because the economy is better. Okay, go to Florida, but don't bring your politics with you. Keep your politics up there.

Don't come down here. That's hard to do. And try to vote the same way, think the same way, because thinking the same way isn't what changed Florida. Your politics in New York City is far different than what's going on in Florida. The politics in New York City is why you're leaving New York City. That's exactly right. Right.

So, so you, so either keep your ass up there or come to Florida, but you better start voting differently because otherwise you're going to turn Florida into New York. Bernie, why are all these guys from New Yorkork why they come to for why aren't they going to alabama why aren't they going to the lovely state of mrs. cippy you know southern states out carolina sounds great the fucking country with a bunch of sheep you know i mean you were you get us and you were miserable hanging out with your two cats more than any other

cat that's what the cats man don't be the cats do the cats of yours man yeah so yeah i have a question for you. Before we move on, because you said you got a lot of love down here, you were walking the streets of Boca, hey Bernie, come here. Who are the people that are giving you love, hey, Bernie, good to see you. And who are the people, hey, you fucking Bernie,

get the hell out of here. Oh yeah, what's the difference? You get those far from few between, but when you get them, you know, I'll tell you a quick funny story. I was crossing Madison Avenue, a few between, but when you get them, I'll tell you a quick funny story. I was crossing Madison Avenue, my little girl who's now 18. She was about two years old.

This is after 9-11, after Giuliani and I leave office. I'm crossing Madison Avenue up around Nellows, around 61st Street. Nice area. I'm crossing the street. And there's a guy walking across. He's like your age. He's walking across the street facing me and he goes Caric, right you caric? I'll see us are And at the top of his lungs. He goes you're a dick

You're a fucking dick. He's brought healing in the middle of the street. Never buddies like whoa what happened? What's this guy? So you get and it was build DeBlasio. You probably is kidding. You get, you get, you get those kind of people that are complete lunatics. But for the most part, you know, everybody's nice. But down here, when I'm in Palm Beach or Boca, Fort Lauderdale, I'm telling you, I think it's like a six-barrow this city because everybody's like, hey Commissioner, how you doing? Hey, Commissioner, hey, Commissioner, how you doing? Hey, Commissioner, hey, Bernie, what's up? You're all down.

In the mecca, I mean, especially Bokas, like the mecca of New York and Jersey. I think they just lifted up, like somewhere up there and brought it down. Yeah, and it's gonna be more because of what's going on in New York. This is not gonna slow down. I can't tell you the numbers because last night,

you were not the house, you were over there. I'm in the process of buying a house right now. We made a few offers, but this one's gone far. I get a call from my realtor yesterday saying, this guy is willing to pay you XYZ dollars. I'll say it once the house closes, then I'll reveal the information

so people can know about it. My realtor's telling me, let this guy buy the house from you. I said, I haven't even bought the house yet. Yes, but legally, this is your house because you're in contract. He wants to buy the contract from you. And he wants to pay you this much. I said, how much?

So my wife says, babe, it's a big number, but please say no. Babe, it's a big number, but please say no. I like it. Because she don't want to go through the process. Because she's pregnant. We got what, five weeks left. June 21st, we got six weeks left for them. Baby to come pregnant. We got what, five weeks left, June 21st.

We got six weeks left for that baby to come up. So life is very busy right now. But the point is guys are coming in here. They're saying, look, what is asking price? I'll give you two million more. I'll give you three. Just let me get this place. Because it's a, it's the bidding war today in Florida.

It's insane. Okay. So that being said, what are you thinking a year from now, a year and a half from now, you think the bubble's gonna burst? Not in states like Florida, Texas, Tennessee, Nevada, it's not, not those states. Really? Texas is gonna, Texas is gonna keep blowing up. Florida is gonna keep blowing up.

Tennessee is gonna keep blowing up. Nevada is gonna keep blowing up. There are certain states. They're not going away. What's Tennessee? Texas, lowest taxes in all of America. Lowest taxes in all of America. I'm actually going to Tennessee.

I lived there for two years. It's one of the best places to raise a family. One of the best places to raise a family. And it's not like country bumpkin, national bumpkin. No, they got all sports. I mean, Nashville, especially. You can go live in a nice place, Brentwood, Nashville, which got $10, $15 million,

$20 million homes, you can go get a quarter million dollar home and be right outside the city. Could you imagine a $20 million home in Nashville? It's a palace. I was going to say what's in it. It's a palace. Literally, it's a palace, but it's a beautiful place, beautiful place to raise a fan. If we wanted the water, because our kids loved the the water we would have lived in Nashville Tennessee. I just want I want like 20 acres in the woods somewhere with a long driveway

in a house just big enough for me. Upstate New York. No, no, stop. Stop. Alabama. Alabama. I want to fucking red stain. Hey, come here. How you doing? Good to see you down here. Come here. Let's let's let's finish. Oh man, there's Bernie. Let's finish it up with Liz Cheney, page 12, if you want to go to that. So Liz Cheney, Kay, this has been a mess in the Republican Party right now. Representative Liz Cheney says she will do everything she can to make sure that Trump never again

gets anywhere near the Oval Office, the business insider story. She's from Wyoming on Wednesday said she's determined to prevent former President Donald Trump from returning to the White House. I will do everything I can to ensure the former president never gets in anywhere near the, over office. We have seen the danger that he continues to provoke with his language. We have seen his lack of commitment and dedication to the Constitution. Cheney told reporters on Capitol Hill, the comments came after Cheney was ousted as chair of the House Republican Conference

and a voice vote on Wednesday morning. G.O.P. members voted to remove Cheney was ousted as chair of the House Republican Conference in a voice vote on Wednesday morning. GOP members voted to remove Cheney from the top leadership post over repeated criticism of the former president opposition to his lies about the 2020 presidential election. She was also one of the top, one of the 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Trump over his role in the Capitolurrection, on January 6th, thoughts. My thought is she's a liar and I'm glad she's gone. And I say that from personal experience, I ran the investigative side of the president's

rebuttal on the election. I saw the 3000 affidavits from people that witnessed voter fraud, election fraud in six different states. She was never briefed. She was never interviewed. She never called us. She never questioned us. She hasn't seen one bit of evidence out of the outrageous evidence of voter and election fraud, yet make statements like that. And for that, she shouldn't be in Congress. I don't know this, Cheney, personally, like you did, or not,

not, you know, personally, but, and I've said this before, people are like, oh, the Democratic Party has fallen apart. The socialists are taken over, but for my opinion, they'll at least coalesce during an election and come together. In my opinion, the party that is being fractured is Republicans.

You have, what does it say, 100 Republicans, including former governors and lawmakers are threatening to former third party these are people that were life long republicans the bushes of the world the chanies of the world the george wills of the world we saw you know how the uh... the link in project took over the lap still did that and well let's just correct but they did they did bring down trump they did from the inside of the

democrats use them to bring him down in afterwards, they crash and burn because they're no longer needed. They're the useful idiots. Some call them. Well, they knew what they were doing. They're no. Some of them call them the useful idiots. They were useful when needed. The moment everything was accomplished. Now it's no longer fair enough. But the point is that I'm trying to make is if there is some, the bigger division is definitely in the Republican Party than it is the Democratic Party right now. We'll see what happens in the 20s. I don't disagree with you.

I'm actually on your side with this because this is, so you have to realize, if you knew how powerful Dick Cheney was, he literally ran the show. No, no, the guy is a strategy, he's one of the scariest guys on politics. The guy was a, no, the guy is a strategy. He's one of the scariest guys on politics. The guy was a strategist. The guy was a, he was feared by his peers. He's so powerful he could shoot his buddy in the face

and not pay a price. You can say that because that's actually a factual statement. So can you imagine his daughter? She's got those genes. The genetics of a fighter, the genetics of defending and Cheney was who's VP. Cheney was Bushes. Okay, and the Bushes and Trump's house of relationship. Did it go to fighter, the genetics of defending and Cheney was whose VP? Cheney was... It was bushes.

Okay, and the bushes and Trump's house of relationship. Did it go to dinner to get out of Marlboro? Bushes and Trump's not good, so... Not so good, because the counter is... They're close to the Obama's at this point. Of course, so the point is you have to know where the loyalty lies. Right? Where the loyalty lies. It's like Sin Namekain.

Now here's a question for you. Here's a crazy question for you. Here's a crazy question for you. It's getting crazy. Sam, am I above my appointment? What is it? 11.02. Okay. So here's a question for you. Here's a crazy question for you.

Republican Party. Say there's a split. We have a third party. I know we have like a few other third parties, whatever, independent, libertarian, green, all that. But I'm talking about like a legitimate 20%, 25% party, right? Which party is more like Ronald Reagan?

The list chaining bush, you know, party, the, the, the, what do you call it? The conservative project, the Lincoln project. Do you think they're more like Reagan? Or do you think Trump's mega party is more like Reagan? Who's more like Reagan?

And Reagan? Like Reagan now makes like Reagan the way he ran America. Who's more like Reagan? Trump's. You think so. 100%. What do you think? I'm taking the opposite. So let me, if you listen to this, if you listen to this, if you're listening to this, yeah, thumbs up.

If you think the, the, the, the Trump is more like Reagan versus the Chinese, the bushes of the world are like Reagan thumbs up. It's more Trump like Reagan thumbs down. If no, it's Bush, Cheney are more like Reagan. I actually It's more Trump like Reagan thumbs down if no. It's Bush Cheney or more like Reagan. I actually want to hear your thoughts when you're saying this. So tell me why you say Trump's camp mag is more like Reagan. Because he believes in much of the same stuff Reagan did,

you know, smaller government. You know, the Bush Republican party is all about the swamp. It's all about the swamp. It's all about the swamp. It's all the connections, the long time connections of Washington, DC. And look, I gotta be honest, I followed this stuff for years. I never got involved as much as I did

in the aftermath of the election. And there were people on the Bush side of the house, the Republican side of the house, the Republican side of the house, basically saying, leave the election alone. Don't talk about it. Don't go public. Don't cooperate with them. Don't talk to the president's legal team.

Why? Why not? What are you hiding or what are you trying to prevent from happening? The bottom line is there was overwhelming evidence of voter and election fraud. I saw it. I collected the affidavits. We interviewed hundreds of people. I got it but why wouldn't you want that to come out? Why is it? Why is it not okay to talk about it? They censored the president. They censored the president. They've censored anybody that goes on social media and tries to talk about it. They censored the president, they censored the president, they censored anybody that goes on social media and tries to talk about it, for the people that were there that saw what I saw,

this is outrageous. I don't give a shit if it's Republican and Democrat. I don't care. The bottom line is every vote should count, and every vote should be illegal, a legal vote. every vote should count and every vote should be illegal, a legal vote. When you have 350,000 ballots that are cast between 1 a.m. and 5 a.m. in Pittsburgh, and there's no Republican observers. Okay, that's illegal. It's illegal. It's a fucking crime. When you have 150,000 cast in Philadelphia between one and five a.m. That's a crime. Why hasn't it been investigated? How can Liz Cheney stand up and say, it's all a lot. What do you say to those who say Bernard? This has already been addressed. It went to court. Even Georgia, you know, the governor came out and he didn't do anything. You know, you can go to all these. Here's what you say

about the court issue. The court issue, and I'll finish with this one statement. The court issues, in almost every case, there was no state, they didn't find that the petitioner had standing or they said it's a state issue. And you know what they're right. Here's the bottom line for the people that were there. The Democrats sold the election. They infused ballots. They fucked with the machines. They had dead people voting in the thousands. They stole the election. But that is not why Donald Trump is not the president today. Donald Trump is not the president today because the state legislators in the six swing states certified false votes and they knew it and they knew it they certified their election numbers in those states just to get it over

why because they're a part of that bush entourage that bush party they hated Trump they didn't like what he stood for and they are the reason he's not in the white house today. So you're saying it's the actual Republicans who are running one hundred percent? So not even the Democrats. You're saying is it the Democrats or the Republicans that fucks up? The Democrats stole the election, but if the Republicans did their job at the state legislators did their job and did not certify those votes until there was a real investigation, those votes until there was a real investigation. You have Arizona right now. Right now, today, they're still in court messing with the

order in Arizona. You have the same thing going on in Michigan, in Antrim County, where they found a turnover of Trump votes to Biden. They found them in the machines. That stuff is still going on. The certification should have never been done. Let me ask you. And in the great words of big Lebowski. It's kind of like your opinion man How accurate do you think no like are you a what thousand percent confidence is exactly what happened? Or it's like look I kind of think this is what I am a thousand percent confident

You know why because I have the affidits. I have the legal affidavits. There's one under the penalty of perjury. There's thousands of them. Thousands. What do you fucking ignore these people? That were there. What about you, Blaine? What do you blame for all this? Because you sounds like you're blaming Republicans.

I am blaming Republicans. Oh my God. I am. By the way, say there's a third party. Let's break those two parts. Say there's a third party. Okay's break those two parts say there's a third party, okay? So so no if there's a third party by a landslide who wins Democrats by a landslide

or or does Because it seems like the fear is so high that they're thinking Trump's gonna run 2024. Do you think he is 24 I don't know it's your't know. It's your bets. 80% chance, 60% 50% 80. So very high. Yeah, 80 runs. Okay, listen, if so many people are doing everything

and their power to prevent it from happening, they're thinking very high likelihood he's gonna be running and they're scared. That's all I can say to you. And I don't know. No, no, no. If you're saying stuff like this, this is only stemmed from fear.

What if this takes place? Petrified. Yeah, there. I think this is coming from conviction and moral authority. I do think it is, but the only reason you're putting so much energy into this because you also believe odds are this guy's gonna run. We cannot have this guy run because if he runs, what's he gonna do? What's he gonna expose? What's he gonna show? What's he gonna revert back to? What's gonna be taking place? What's gonna be the next swamp? We're gonna lose our deals. I don't know But all I know is I wish we had another hour today, but we don't we went nine minutes over Caroline is standing over here telling me Pat You got a call to get on Bernard minutes been great having you on bro. I got to tell you this was phenomenal

Thanks, and we're gonna have a good lunch right afterwards. We'll go grab a bite and we'll have you back on hopefully here soon again. And on behalf of the six, six borough, welcome. I would love it. We'd love to have you again. Yeah, see you in the streets. Oh, man, this was great. This was great. Thank you.

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