PBD Podcast - Biden Pardon, AOC For President, Trump Meets Trudeau, Kash Patel FBI Director | PBD Podcast | Ep. 515

Episode Date: December 5, 2024

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick covering President Biden pardoning his son hunter, Donald Trump meets Justin Trudeau to discuss tariffs at Mar-a-Lago, and Kash Patel... is nominated as FBI Director. 🧥VT MEN'S MERRY CHRISTMAS CREWNECK SWEATSHIRT: https://bit.ly/3D92DeY 🎄 VT CHRISTMAS COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4hDCt3S 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/3XC5ftN 📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠https://bit.ly/3Zn2Moj 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/3ze3RUM 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: https://bit.ly/47iOGGx 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4e0FgCe 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/3MGK5EE 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4d5nYlU 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: https://bit.ly/3XC8L7k 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠https://bit.ly/3XjSSRK 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! SUBSCRIBE TO: ‪@VALUETAINMENT‬ ‪@vtsoscast‬ ‪@ValuetainmentComedy‬ ‪@bizdocpodcast‬ ‪@theunusualsuspectspodcast‬ ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:02:00 She's a Hollywood star. Jane Fonda was on Bill Maher and we'll talk about that. Yeah, this guy named There's there's this president in this country called America that decided to pardon his son after saying he would never do it but he did and It's not called nepotism apparently if he does it But if it is if the other side we have a lot of stuff to react to that part with Hunter Biden being pardoned We haven't done it yet Kareem Jean-Pierre for first time I feel sorry for this girl because she's been saying no no no and then it happens now
Starting point is 00:02:31 She doesn't know how to spin it, but we'll see what will take place Trump had Justin Trudeau in town at Mar-a-Lago their current Mar-a-Lago the new White House folks The White House may move to Palm Beach. The way it's going right now. Can you imagine? He petitions he says now the capital of United States needs move to Palm Beach. The way it's going right now, can you imagine? He petitions, he says, now the capital of the United States needs to be Palm Beach town. Hey, W had what they called the Western White House in Crawford, Texas.
Starting point is 00:02:54 So why can't Trump have the Southern White House? This is the winter White House. But he grew a soul patch in Crawford, Texas, right? Playing a little bit of frisbee with Connie and Dick Cheney. Like a tourist, like a tourist. They're trying to put steroids out of T-ball. Steroids in T-ball, but still keeping our eye on the ball. Fum, Fum, we won't, Kim, Kim, Kim.
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Starting point is 00:09:03 A million people wearing Future Looks Bright gear. I wanna run into you everywhere we go. I wanna see that gear being worn. Tag us when you do that. All right, President Biden decides to pardon his son, Hunter, everybody reacts to it. People lose their minds. The clips that you see going viral are clips of
Starting point is 00:09:25 him saying he won't do it. No one's above the law. His words. It's funny. There's a tweet that's been trending with community notes. That's Biden who posted no one's above the law. Underneath it, the community note says on December 1st, President Biden pardoned his own son after for 11 years he was accused and that that's just the one right no one is above the law. How brilliant is that? And look at this Joe Biden has partners on Hunter Biden. So his son is in fact. According to Joe Biden's action he and his son are in fact above the law.
Starting point is 00:09:57 That's community notes. That's brilliant. That's brilliant. You know that's Elon sort of getting in there and editing it. Well it's not though, it's the heel. It's the heel that's at the bottom of it. So it goes credit to whoever that writes the story. But I'll just open it up Rob.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Do we wanna go with Scott Jennings? Let's start off with Scott Jennings' clip. Scott Jennings is somebody, by the way, respect to LA Times who just decided to ask Scott Jennings. Yeah, shout out to that. Who will be sitting on their board, right? Editorial board if I'm not mistaken. I think he got some kind of a job that he's sitting on the right? Editorial board, if I'm not mistaken. I think he got some kind of a job that he's sitting on the editorial board.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Let me see if I find this here. Yeah, I'll tell you here in a second what that... No, that's correct. And the owner also refused to endorse any particular candidate. That's right. Looks like the owner is trying to get back toward the middle. Good. Here's Scott Jennings, by the way.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Go ahead. Play this clip, Scott Jennings on the part. Listen, you guys can spend all day long trying to spin this, that this is Donald Trump's fault, that this is somehow caused by Donald Trump. Oh, he's appointing the wrong people. Oh, her name is Karen. Oh, this is the worst possible thing a president could possibly do to his party and to the country to sit for a year and say, I will not do this. I will not do this. The rule of law is sacred. We have to respect the justice system. Juries, we have to respect juries. We have to respect the guardrails and the norms of our democracy.
Starting point is 00:11:20 These people are liars. Inflation is transitory. Afghanistan is a success. The border is secure. Robert Herr is a liar. The videos are cheap fakes. Biden has a cold. He'll never drop out. Oh, I'll never pardon Hunter. It's all a lie.
Starting point is 00:11:34 It is all a grift. Every American except the most partisan, brain-rotted people are going to be. Look at her. He knows he's talking about her. He is going to leave off you think 38 39 percent job You wait just you wait he's disgraced disgraced today outrageous Her name about her name is Karen
Starting point is 00:11:57 Really her name is Tom. Are you surprised that he pardoned his own son and that he pardoned his own son? And does this open it up and allow Trump to do whatever he wants to do because no matter who he pardons, is not gonna be close to a president pardoning his own son? Okay, so we have to understand what happened here. You have to read the pardon to understand that this is not just covering his son. This starts back in 2014. that this is not just covering his son.
Starting point is 00:12:29 This starts back in 2014. Otherwise he could say, I am pardoning him for the tax, gun ownership, and list the issues specifically. Usually that's what they do. Presidential pardon says, I'm pardoning this guy who is on death row because I believe DNA evidence showed that he didn't do it, and so I'm pardoning him on that
Starting point is 00:12:46 What this was was a blanket pardon for all crimes going back to 2014. Why 2014? That is before the gun charge Why it's because? 2014 is when the business was started in the Ukraine and the money was going back so guess who also gets covered if because if if Hunter was forwarding 10% for the big guy, remember that if he was doing that, now he's pardoned for that. If there were 14 bank accounts that Hunter was manipulating
Starting point is 00:13:20 to send the money back to the Biden cousins and nieces and nephews, you know what I'm talking about? Guess what? This is now covering that. This is not a pardon. This is a massive coverup and a huge sweep of the entire Ukrainian graft and bribes and kickback, grift, graft, bribes, all that was going above all the above that was going back. I'm not surprised that he did it for his son, but it's not. This is covering the whole thing. And it happens moments after Donald Trump utters the words cash Patel and yeah, and you know what? They know they're coming. They know they're coming. This is don't be deceived.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Everyone that is in and around Joe Biden wants you to think this is about pardoning his son. He never said he would pardon his son. Look at what it says all the way back to 2014 sweeping all malfeasances over that scope of time. Why? Well, and Tom you nailed it And guess what? The big guy, he came through. Okay? And if you guys, I love, not us, but the mainstream media, the Republicans are such shocked and in your awe. That's all these people have been doing is lying. When you see Corrine Jean-Pierre on that freaking in the White House press room, you know that book that she has?
Starting point is 00:14:43 That's just a book of freaking lies. Every time people talk, she's in there looking for another lie. Kate Hyde tweeted yesterday, she said, Biden's presidency started with him denying the existence of Hunter's laptop and it is ending with Biden pardoning Hunter for all the things found on that laptop. And Tom, you nailed it. It's a blanket pardon, blanket immunity that means it cannot be overturned. Supreme Court can't overturn it, Congress can't overturn it, even Joe Biden. If Joe Biden wanted to overturn
Starting point is 00:15:12 it, he can't. And I was watching yesterday Jack Posobiec's podcast and he said from people on the Hill that he knows and White House staff, you know what happened? Thanksgiving in Nantucket there was a dinner, Thanksgiving dinner and allegedly Hunter Biden stands, and allegedly, Hunter Biden stands up and goes, hey guys, just letting you guys know, I'm thinking about writing a book. I want to write a book about all of our lives, and this is the thing, he was supposed to be sentenced December 12th.
Starting point is 00:15:38 So could you imagine that was basically, are you guys waiting forever? I think I should write a book about everything. This was Jill and this was Joe Biden making sure their asses are covered. And Tom, you nailed it. This is going back for 11 years. And let's not forget who Hunter was. He got discharged from the Navy from 2014 for testing positive for, guess what? Cocaine sleeps with his dead brother's wife, the laptop controversy, tax evasion,
Starting point is 00:16:01 firearm charges, the business dealings. And now we're still in shock that there was cocaine found in the White House and them saying that he's been sober for five years. Get, don't even, don't even come at me with that. And now we have Democrats. This is the hypocrisy of the left. They're all like, well, you would do it too if it was your son. That's not the case.
Starting point is 00:16:20 The case is the lying. We've been lied to. You guys have been lied to for eight years. And I'm, here's my the case. The case is the lying. We've been lied to, you guys have been lied to for eight years. And here's my question too. Is there any way that Biden could get in trouble? Like after all, cause he can't pardon himself for all the stuff that was involved in all that. If they're pardoning him for all of that, all that evidence is still there.
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Starting point is 00:17:52 Ask it from the perspective of father, as a father. Ask it from a perspective of president. Ask it from a perspective of opening up the pardons that your enemy could do in those three areas. Okay? Answer it that way. Meaning, honestly, as a father, you know, I'm not surprised he did it.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Of course. Number two, as a president, him doing it, it's a nasty legacy piece, but the way he'll write his book is gonna be written in a way that's probably gonna be favoring and emotional and let me tell you I was really concerned about him and I love him so much and all I thought about when he was a kid, but as a strategist, let me tell you, he just made things so easy for Trump. He made things, if you go on Twitter Rob, I posted something on Twitter a couple days ago after this took place and
Starting point is 00:18:47 I'm trying to see which one it was Pop up up up up up if you go on Twitter. I posted something about this whole pardon thing and I said Yeah, oh because originally I said I'm convinced he had zero intention of pardoning hunting hunter because he didn't think Trump would win My thoughts was this guy wasn't gonna pardon Hunter. He was thinking whoever that was gonna be he was gonna get a second term and another Democrat was eventually gonna pardon Hunter. It's a better look if Kamala pardons Hunter. So if he says Kamala you go one of the deals they probably broke with Kamala is the fact that on day one she pardons Hunter. So it's a bad
Starting point is 00:19:25 look if he does it, but the moment Trump won is like, oh shit, now what do I do? Because the worst look is if he doesn't pardon Hunter, you think Trump would pardon Hunter? I think he would. And you know what would happen to America if they see Trump pardon Hunter instead of Biden pardoning his own son? Think about that for a second. That's a great tactic. I mean the Trump fans wouldn't like it but as a move, strategic move. No, Trump fans would like it. Let me tell you what Trump fans would like. You know why? Because they would say, oh you said he's a dictator on day one, would a dictator pardon his enemy's son? Would a dictator pardon his enemy's son on day one?
Starting point is 00:20:05 Would he do that? So don't tell me he would do that. He's a unifier. I think they took, because for me, if I'm Trump, it's two ways for me. Again, this is my opinion, thinking like a strategist. Either way, Biden is screwed, and either way, Trump is good, because here's what Trump's going to do. He's going to go, if you don't pardon him, I will pardon him.
Starting point is 00:20:28 And I'm going to pardon the January 6th people on the same day that I pardoned your son to confuse the shit out of the media. I think that's what he would have done if Biden doesn't pardon him. But at the same time, if you do pardon him, guess what? I'm going to use that to pardon everybody else. So both ways, because if you go a little bit higher on the tweet, Rob, this thing that Trump understands that the rest don't understand is Trump understands leverage. He gets leverage.
Starting point is 00:20:57 I think it's a tweet up. He understands leverage. He sits there thinking about his next 15 moves and he knows, you do this, I'm going to do that. You do that, I'm going to do this. you do this, I'm gonna do that. You do that, I'm gonna do this. You do this, I'm gonna do that. He is so ahead of the other competitors that he's going up against. They don't have it coming.
Starting point is 00:21:13 But to me, it was a win-win for Trump. There was no way Trump was gonna lose from this and I'm convinced. I'm telling you, 95% chance, I'm convinced, me, this is my, they can come out and say you have no clue what you're talking about, please don't speak on RBF, I'm not speaking, it's a podcast, I'm giving my opinion. 95% chance Trump would have pardoned Hunter on the same day that he would have pardoned the J6 people too. It would have been, I selfishly I would have liked to have seen the media lose their mind
Starting point is 00:21:41 over it. Yeah, yeah. Because it would have been like, we knew he was going to pardon J6. Yeah, well, how about this? Well, that's probably... Yeah, they don't... They're lost. It would have been great.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Adam, thoughts? I like the way you broke it down basically because you have to think of this in multiple basically purposes. There is the father-son element of all this and everyone that basically weighed in on this from Pierce Morgan to Tucker to Rogan, everyone basically understands that as a father, they all said, listen, man, if my son were faced with something like this, if your son was accused of murder, if your son murdered somebody, would you turn him in? The resounding answer for most people was no, I wouldn't. So if you're Joe Biden, the father, and you're looking back at your life, He lost a wife and his daughter, what in 1971
Starting point is 00:22:25 to a car accident dead, his main son, the good one, Beau Biden, who was the attorney general of Delaware, I believe also a major in the army died brain cancer. So now you have your crackhead son left your only son remaining and you have Ashley Biden is sort of a social activist. What would you do if you, if you were in that situation, you've already lost two kids, this is your only boy left and you're like unbelievably sad and distraught over the situation. I understand that pivoting from that as a leader. So you have the father and the son, then you have the leader and a loser.
Starting point is 00:22:59 You have your loser son. You know, one of the, one of the best things that Trump and Hillary Clinton ever did was when he said, say one thing good about what your opponent has done. And he basically said, Hillary was like, look, look at this guy's kids. I mean, we've met many of them, spent broken bread with many of them from Don Jr to Eric, to Ivanka, to Tiffany, the, I mean, Baron, what a stud. And then you juxtapose that and you look at Biden, Hunter Biden. And it's just like, what a fricking loser. The crack, the drugs, the prostitution, the everything, the recording, recording and
Starting point is 00:23:31 leaving it at a to be true. Of course it is. We always know. So the last thing is the precedent and the president is now everyone's basically saying, what's the precedent here? What's the precedent here? What's the precedent here? So the flip side is, and you're starting to see the mental gymnastics as they're starting to say is, well, Trump pardon Roger Stone. He pardoned Paul Manafort. He pardoned Steve Vann and Michael Flynn, all these things. So what will the precedent be for Trump now that he's coming to term again? So I think you have to look underneath it. And I understand the part about, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:02 it's a son. He's been through a lot. the family's been through a lot. I agree with that. But I think hiding in plain sight is it doesn't, this is a criminal accomplice that just happens to be his son. The being on the board of Burisma and those 11 payments of, no, no, 15 payments for $11 million between 2014, 2018. Then Rosemont Seneca investing in MetaBiota.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Look at all the things that are there hiding in plain sight and that they wanna call this, and it's, bubba, I found this is really funny. Kathleen Jean-Pierre called it war politics and then Biden said in a quote that it was raw politics. Well, raw is war spelled backwards and I'm wondering if Biden Misunderstood the word and called it raw politics. It's war politics or she that I thought it was kind of interesting Well, what are you saying? What I'm saying is they pardoned him
Starting point is 00:24:56 Because there is a litany of things that were on that hard drive that were crimes that were committed So are you saying they pardoned him because it was gonna link back to Joe So really Joe part of link back to Joe? So really Joe pardoned himself. It does link back to Joe. So what you're saying is, just so the audience understands, it's a very good point you're making. Joe Biden just pardoned himself is what you're saying. Correct. His accomplice, who will never testify against him,
Starting point is 00:25:21 who now is forgiven for anything he may have done, guess what? Is clean. And all those things I mentioned were coming back this way. And it just happens to be his son. But there's, I do have a compassionate heart. I believe that Joe Biden is on the twilight of just any sort of recognition. I think he's at the front door of where Ronald Reagan was, where a handwritten note was published by the LA Times, where he says, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:48 I have been told my condition is worsening. This is what I'm feeling. This is what it is. I believe Joe Biden is right on that doorstep, and we are seeing the sunset, who is one of the leaders of our nation over time. But I also believe that what happened here is he
Starting point is 00:26:05 pardoned himself by clearing I got it okay so let's go all the way back to 2014 so someone I want to I want to show something to you Rob can you pull this up with Keith Obermann and this this the part to me that's kind of confusing with what these guys are saying so here's a Keith Obermann I just texted it to you Rob a minute ago and you put a thumbs up Just go to replies right there you'll find it go to replies Yeah, if you go to replies go a little lower right there second one right there if you just click on there you go Thank you that so pardon hundred question mark great now pardon everybody else every prosecutor every Biden administration every media figure every Trump will
Starting point is 00:26:43 everybody Trump will persecute. 10 million pardons at least. Then I say, why do you seem so rattled by this news? By the way, you know he also says pardon me, like meaning pardoning him. So this is a little bit deeply concerning because the definition, Rob, if you can go online and and look up the definition of pardon, okay, I pulled it up just go to definition
Starting point is 00:27:12 of pardon, just type in definition right next to the right definition of pardon, okay zoom in, the act of releasing someone from the legal consequences of a crime or an official document that does so, okay, of a crime. So what Keith Obermann indirectly is saying is that Joe Biden's entire administration were criminals. That's what Keith Obermann just said. Keith, you indirectly just said all Democrats are criminals. Maybe somebody needs to call Keith Obermann from the DNC and just say shut up, similar
Starting point is 00:27:50 to when they made a phone call to Mark Cuban and said, Mark, stop talking about Kamala Harris and go on a Haq 2A podcast, which I don't know if you saw or not. He was on a Haq 2A podcast. Just going back to 6624, Keith Obermann, I sent it to Robin, I'll just going back to a six six twenty four Keith Olbermann I sent it to Robin. I'll just read it because this is his tweet now back then He said here no one is above the law not the rich not the powerful not the derelict. It's like he's so like that's him He's the book. This guy is just alone. He's angry. He's bitter and it's like believe it or not people like this You know, there's certain times like
Starting point is 00:28:25 you're going to do a business deal, and it's a big deal. And you have to make a decision who you want to take to be in that room when you're doing a deal. And a group sits down and decides who's not gonna make us look like an idiot when you're making a big deal, okay? If you're the Democratic party,
Starting point is 00:28:47 it's people like this that hurt your brand. Just so you know, this is not a good look, okay? I can listen to Bill Maher as annoying as it was sitting there and just watching him talk for two hours and I spoke for maybe two minutes on whatever it was. I'm like, I don't even know what he's doing here watching Bill Maher sit there and Rob can you play this clip of Bill Maher the one I sent you not the other one the one with Bill Maher and and Jane Fonda that he talks about California and is this the one
Starting point is 00:29:19 that says California there's that was the pregnant man one this is the California oh yeah man but watch this one. I mean you want okay Bill Maher is still gonna vote for Kamala thousand percent But guess what? This is a better brand Than Keith Obermann. Yeah, then Jane Fonda. This is a better brand for the left, but the left is Destroying him. Yep. Like if I'm a Democrat, I'm like dude the left is destroying him. Like if I'm a Democrat, I'm like, dude, can we have more Bill Maher's? Because at least he's getting people on the right that are wanting. Just listen to the way he talks to Jane Fonda.
Starting point is 00:29:51 It's like, woman, you sound delusional about California. Watch this clip here. Go ahead, Rob. I believe that the state we live in California is lacking regulation. There's over 300,000 regulations. Well, maybe they're needed. They're not. Just listen. is lacking regulation. There's over 300,000 regulations. I mean, I once- Well, maybe they're needed. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:30:07 They're not. Just listen, watch what happens here. When I tried to put in a garage door, I had to have three inspections. There should have been none. I should be allowed to change my garage door. Are you kidding? Really, it was about a garage door?
Starting point is 00:30:18 Absolutely. I'm sorry, yeah, that is- No, you know this about California. No, I don't. Well- No, I don't. I. No, I don't. Well, I'm sorry, I don't. You've never heard that California is overtaxed
Starting point is 00:30:30 and overregulated. Look at this. That we are a one party state where there's sort of no checks on that sort of extreme leftism. And why do you think- I don't for a minute consider California a state that is extreme leftist. What's in those left?
Starting point is 00:30:47 Not at all, not anyway. Well that shows where your politics are. That's not where mine are. By the way. In a bubble. By the way, you know who she was married to? To the founder of CNN. Ted Turner, right? Oh, no wonder why. But CNN wasn't, Ted Turner wasn't that far left.
Starting point is 00:31:03 That's as far left as it gets. Ted Turner was more Bill Maher than he was, what do you call it, Jane Fonda. His dream was to one day marry Jane Fonda, he did. But the moral of the story here is, the Democratic Party, the Keith Obermann position, leaning away from those guys. You have to sit, somebody in the Democratic Party
Starting point is 00:31:24 has to sit there and say, hey guys, guess what? What? Look at what Trump did. Don't look at who Trump went on. Who shows that Trump not go on? Think about that question right there. Who wasn't seen as a close ally that he was comfortable being seen with? Why not?
Starting point is 00:31:46 Why didn't he? You think that was accidental? There's plenty of people with a lot of eyeballs. Why didn't he go there? Why didn't he go there? There was some place that he didn't go to. Because even him and Suzy, is it Susan, Wiles, Suzy Wiles, am I saying it correctly? Even they, do you think on a second run that he's going?
Starting point is 00:32:07 Maybe Trump is more out of phase that he says look I need to lean on some people for better counsel and he trusts Susie was where maybe he didn't he didn't have the somebody that He trusted before it says hey, I don't think we go to XYZ. I Don't think we go to some of these places I think we plan all this out and we go to such and such. The Democrats need to sit there. No joke, if I had a room and I'm on the Democratic side, I'm going to say, let's rank the top 100 influencers on the left. Who are they? Okay, guys, those 38 are not Democrats. They're delusional. Nothing with those guys moving forward. They make us look bad, okay? Those 18 Democrats are really not Democrats. They're
Starting point is 00:32:53 Republicans who are not willing to leave the Democratic Party because of their fathers or their mothers, the loyalty to their family. Like who? Joe Manchin is not a Democrat. He's a Republican. He's a center-right guy. Okay? So then they have to sit there and say, okay, these are our people that we have to build up. And then you turn those guys into heroes. But they're uncomfortable doing that.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Because here's a Joe Manchin guy you are a big fan of. You told me about Joe Manchin, what, four and a half years ago. Here's what Joe Manchin says about the pardoning and what he suggests Biden should do before he's out go ahead Rob as a father I don't know father that wouldn't have done the same thing what I would have done differently my recommendations the council would have been why don't you go ahead and pardon Donald Trump for all his charges and make it you know it had been we've gone down a lot more balanced if you will I'm just saying wipe them out
Starting point is 00:33:45 What do you think this does for his legacy? I don't know from that standpoint is it makes it difficult But you know what he sounds like but you know what he sounds like like a reasonable like a reasonable Dude saying that so dams need to restructure and get the hell away from the Jane Fonda's the Keith Oberman Yeah, these weird people that you're giving a limelight to that are party or party, they're making you look bad. But would you like, I'm trying to think of it as a business plan, but the same token,
Starting point is 00:34:14 how would you go, like, who would be calling people like Keith Obermann and be like, hey dude, we don't control you, shut the hell up and get your crazy ass, Rosie O'Donnell, stop making videos. You don't do it that way. You gotta stop them. These people can't help themselves Pat you nailed it if they have like Bill Maher John Stewart Stephen because what a
Starting point is 00:34:31 couple articles came out a couple days ago where they're like the left is looking for a Joe Rogan on the left you're not gonna find it when they have shit like that happening because these people cannot help themselves you know who's a Joe Rogan left today Bill today? Bill Maher. I think so. No, no. He's the guy. No, no. He is the Joe Rogan of the left.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Yeah. But is he influential enough to move the vote like how Trump did? No, he's not as likable as Joe is, and he's not as versatile as Joe is, and Joe is not snobby. Exactly. Joe is the guy that sits across from you who knows he's smarter than you, but he won't make you look dumb. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:35:04 He's the guy that'll sit across from you and wants to make you look dumb. So it's not attractive, it's a different brand. But guess what, it's worked for him his entire life. So it's worked for him. So for me, I think Bill Maher is the Joe Rogan of the left. And he may not even like that. Like if you told Bill Maher, you're the Joe Rogan
Starting point is 00:35:21 of the left, he's like, who the hell you think you are? I am the Bill Maher. And Joe Rogan is the Bill Maher's like, who the hell do you think you are? I am the Bill Maher. And Joe Rogan is the Bill Maher of me. Like I came before he came. That's what he's going to be thinking about himself. Or John Stewart, I would say that he's in that category as well. John is out though. He's not playing as aggressive as John is kind of like at a phase of his life that he's
Starting point is 00:35:39 not playing ball. Right. One day a week. I think you make up a great point. Where does the Democratic Party go from here? So what we're looking at right here with Jane Fonda, who is basically completely irrelevant these days. I mean, her name hasn't been mentioned other than the song about the big booty.
Starting point is 00:35:55 My anaconda don't want non Jane Fonda. You know that situation. But if you want a real life example of the what you hear from the ivory tower, coastal elite, you have Jane Fonda, not even recognizing that LA or California might be a little bit to the left, just a little bit. She's like, I don't, where are you even getting this from? Cause she's rich as hell. She lives in the hills.
Starting point is 00:36:15 How are you completely that out of touch to use a Hall and Oats song right there to not even recognize that LA and California might be just a little bit to the left on taxation, on regulation. Here's a story right here. We said what they want to make a bathroom is going to cost $2 million. Just watch this clip. Watch this clip when Bill asks about trans and then he suggests to her, the problem is Jane, you're only watching one thing. And then watch what she says at the end. Go ahead, Rob. You really think men can get pregnant? You know, that kind of stuff. And I understand that a trans woman can get pregnant. That's different than a man getting pregnant. And the way they sort of like insist on blurring that line is if that's some sort of reasonable
Starting point is 00:36:59 social cause. I've never heard about men getting pregnant. I've never heard about this argument. It's, it must be some part of a, what you call the far left that is so minuscule that I, who am. No, Jane. What? It's not minuscule. And I'm sorry, you can't throw this back on us. It's I assume it's because you are locked into media that just never, never wants anyone
Starting point is 00:37:24 in their audience to know anything sketchy about the blue team. Watch this. Well. Watch what she says. credit to her what she says here. I don't know, I read two papers. Watch this, right here. Yeah, maybe I don't.
Starting point is 00:37:36 I should watch Fox News. No, I don't. What does she read? Whatever, whatever. But watch what happened. This is actually a very, where we all go through this process at some point of our life. You just hope you don't go through it at 87 years old. She just went through it for the first time at 87.
Starting point is 00:37:58 I saw it live. Yeah, but this, this is, I'm so glad that you played this clip because it's so important because there's a lot of people out there They're gonna have to go through this I mean you saw Sharon Stone last week basically saying that the average Americans an idiot if they vote for Trump They don't go on vacation. They don't experience the rest of the world most people can't They don't have the type of money to just go travel Europe and Galavant all over the other side of the world This is the whole concept of why you trot out Beyonce
Starting point is 00:38:24 Oprah J Lo they spent how much money on these people? of the world. This is the whole concept of why you trot out Beyonce, Oprah, JLo. They spent how much money on these people? Kamala's how much in debt? $20 million after blowing over a billion dollars. And then this is the reason that you look down on flyover country, this whole situation right here. That's why regular Americans, the Democratic Party used to be the party of the unions and the workers and the working man and the middle class. Now that the party of Jane Fonda completely out of touch, it's just sad to see where this party is. Let me go to this next story here. Let me go to this next story here.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And Tom, you're gonna give you feedback on this next story, where I'm going to next, you'll see. So a couple things. You have a story here from George Clooney. Being angry at Barack Obama for Democrats election debacle okay this is from times now and then there's like three other stories like that that are saying same thing but let me just read this one with
Starting point is 00:39:15 George Clooney George Clooney reportedly felt betrayed by Barack Obama after the 2024 Democrats election loss believing Obama pushed him to criticize Joe Biden's leadership and then abandoned him. A source revealed George is livid with Obama for disappearing after the election fallout. Barack avoided publicly criticizing Biden to maintain his image. While George became the face of the strategy, Clooney felt he was used as a political pawn and blamed for the party's defeat. In controversial op-ed, Clooney questioned
Starting point is 00:39:46 Biden's health and ability to read, writing, the Joe Biden I met recently isn't the same leader from 2010 or even 2020. He mirrored a man we saw at the debate, a version that lacks the vitality needed to win in November, published as Biden announced he wouldn't seek reelection and endorse Kamala Harris. The piece drew sharp criticism from Democratic supporters and Hollywood peers. By the way, this continues, Kamala Harris still begging for cash after election laws and James Carville calls out audit for Harris' campaign spending. By the way, this continues, major Democratic donors says Barron Trump is smarter than Kamala Harris' entire campaign.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Rob, if you have that clip, it's one after another. Imagine you go from partying with Obamas, seeing with them at Como, Lecomo, and all this other... to all of us on the story like this leaking out. We don't know if the source is correct or not, but it sounds pretty right that Clooney came out and criticized Biden. And here's a donor saying what he's saying. By the way, I thought he also did a great job on Cuomo's interview. So go ahead and play this clip Rob. This episode is brought to you by Dyson On Track.
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Starting point is 00:41:20 and usage accessories sold separately. McDonald's has the gift that keeps giving. To Peter, your dog sitter, and Claire, who shovels your stairs. And to you, when you spend $25 on McDonald's gift cards in restaurants, get a coupon for a free Big Mac or McChicken. See details at participating McDonald's restaurants. Well, my reaction is, you know, she thinks she's Obama. She goes to Hawaii because Obama goes to Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:41:46 She started talking like Obama, imitating Obama. She is not Barack Obama. She has no talent. She can never run for president again. She ran once and got zero delegates. She got 8% of California. I begged them not to put her up. She was going to be tethered to Biden no matter what. That was a zero-sub game for her. But she thought
Starting point is 00:42:14 that all these votes were for her. They were not. The votes that she got were people voting against Trump, and the votes that Trump got were the people voting for Trump. What the Harris campaign should have done instead of avoiding Joe Rogan and podcasts, it turns out that Barron Trump, who looks like a runway model, was telling his father, you need to go on podcasts, you need to go on Joe Rogan. You know to go on Joe Rogan You know, he was three hours late to a rally because he was doing Joe Rogan because that was so important So of course it bear and Trump Is a lot smarter than everybody in the hairs. They said they didn't
Starting point is 00:43:00 This is not this is a former major Democratic By the way, this is not, this is a former major Democratic. Thoughts on the thoughts on this. Boy, let's go top to bottom. I'm going to go really quick through this and not be so verbose. John Morgan is right, but now let's go upstream really, really fast. Kamala Harris is done. She's going to get her book deal about how she ran for president. Somebody's going to write her that check. Schuster or somebody on the liberal echo chamber bubble is going to do it. Then she's going to go out and do commencement at HBC use 200 grand a piece, which is rumored is what she's being offered for a commencement. So that's going to happen. She's done. Forget about her. She is buried
Starting point is 00:43:41 politically. And that's where you will find her selling another book and doing speeches and things like that for people who? Are willing to pay her boom number one again drunk numbers. Oh, yeah, maybe so number two George Clooney is right Obama was hiding in the shadows and George Clooney and others were Convinced to go out and be the verbal mouthpieces so that the politicians could come back to Joe. Joe, we're losing support. Look outside. Clooney is saying it. People are saying it. We need these people, Joe. Need them to support you. That gave, because otherwise Obama's got to walk in and say, Joe, I think it's time to go. Now he's in conflict directly with Joe Biden. He didn't want that. Did Clooney get used?
Starting point is 00:44:26 He absolutely got used and many other celebrities got used and paid, you know, to go do this. So that's true. The third thing is if you listen to Carville, Carville is right. There needs to be an audit of campaign spending because Carville's worried about the party and Carville. Now I'll bring it home. Pat Carville is worried about the John Morgans who feel that they got taken for a ride, that they put money in there, that he said, I didn't want that candidate. I went along with it. I did it. And so now it's all coming back where Carville wants to protect the brand. We heard Lou, I, her first name. We
Starting point is 00:45:06 talked about it on the last podcast where she said, Susan, Susan, Lou, I find it unbelievable how they spent money and they were unaccountable. The DNC was trying to restore order apparently in some level and the campaign was out there spending money like drunken sailors and just out of control Pat and I sat in Malibu, California and heard a very measured very good debate between Ed Gillespie at that time head of the Republican Party and Terry McCullough at that point Very influential in the Democrat Party and an ex leader in the Clinton campaign. It was very very balanced I had a great conversation out by the pool for about 15 minutes afterwards with Terry McCullough, have you ever voted for a Democrat? Yes, I did. There was a Bob Graham, who was the governor of Florida. I voted for him.
Starting point is 00:45:54 I thought he was really good. I'm kind of open about this. And I take a look at those two leaders. If Terry McAuliffe had been a leader or he had somebody like that have been a leader of the DNC or on this campaign This doesn't happen. But that's how I feel about it point by point by point by point this is a train wreck and The rational voice is the guy that doesn't sound rational Because it's Carville trying to save the brand and the party to get ready for midterms in 2026 James Carville been has been sounding the alarm on what's going on in the Democratic Party
Starting point is 00:46:25 for at least a year now, but everybody didn't want to listen. He sounds kind of like a madman a little bit. A little bit, but actually because he's the raging Cajun. But he's right. But here's the deal. You know how much sympathy and empathy I have for the people that have buyer's remorse? This much right here. Good.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Sorry guys. Sorry. You decided to go all in on this horrible candidate and now you want your money back. No, no, no, no, no. You know what you were purchasing. You know what you were donating to. You know what this was all about. Sorry, George Clooney.
Starting point is 00:46:50 You can't just basically win and have the accolades and the flowers when you win. But then when you lose, you're like, Oh my God, I was used. What happens when you won, buddy? That's number one. Number two, you know, when I started doing social media content, thanks to, you know, certain friends like PBD saying, get out there, do some stuff. I was doing a lot of money stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:08 And I started interviewing all these people. All right, so you're saving, you're investing, you're budgeting, you're doing all these things. What's next? What's that? After you get to the pinnacle, what's next? And these very smart people at this state planning conference, they said, there's only one thing. It just comes down to legacy.
Starting point is 00:47:21 And everything comes down to legacy. So if you're looking at Joe Biden right now, you talk about a lame duck presidency. I mean, we're 50 days out until Trump's second term. There's 50s that has had a career spanning 50 years. This is now his legacy. Usually a lot of these stories, they basically come and go over the weekend. And that's it. That's what we move on to the next story. I think this is going basically stick to Joe Biden, like flies on you know what, because this is his legacy. You said it before Vinny, he came into power in 2020
Starting point is 00:47:51 on the heels of the hunter biting laptop. We all knew what happened, what was going on that suppression and all that. And he's exiting stage left in a lame dog presidency, pardoning Hunter Biden after, do you see the montage out there? No one's above the law. I'll never
Starting point is 00:48:05 Korean John. Pierre is basically like she should never show her face again at this point of crap. Everybody knows that he's basic was lying. Everyone wants accountability. That's what's going on there. And then to Pat's point, where the hell does the democratic party go from here? It has to go from the inside out, not the outside in, but enough with the celebrities. Nobody gives a S okay. Start with within start families, middle- with the celebrities. Nobody gives a s. Okay. Start with within start families, middle-class working people. Cause if you look to the coastal elites and the Hollywood and the universities, you go woke, you go broke. But Adam, I don't see it happening. I think the left is a cancer. It's a poison and these
Starting point is 00:48:38 people cannot help themselves. They're not going to change. They could pretend and they have the bill Marge's up. They can't. And I'm just telling you right now, Joe Biden will go down as the worst president. Who would you say is up there Tom? Who do people say is the worst president of the United States of all time? Who's number one? Well, I think a lot of people point to economic impact and they'll point to, there's some real oldies in there that did nothing but Jimmy Carter's economic impact was bad. He said, I think we're just in a malaise. And he doubted
Starting point is 00:49:06 the American people. That was very insulting to them. He was a good man, but a terrible leader and therefore a terrible president. And that's, that's, that's on the economy side. Joe Biden has the economy. He has the border. He has these deaths on his hand. He has corruption. He has his crack head degenerate son. He'll go down as the worst president in the history of this country. Period. End of story. Done deal. And they're never going to change. They'll never change. They can't help themselves. Well, I mean, we'll see what's going to happen here. And I think right now, as they're going through the rebranding and who's going to be the next person to come out and help, AOC for president in 2028. Furious speculation sweeps social media that the squad member
Starting point is 00:49:47 Furious speculation sweep social media that the squad member could be running in 2028. Okay now AOC how old is AOC right now Rob if you can pull up to see what her age is I'm like I guess AOC social media and insider discussion speculated AOC a squad member for a Democrat Yeah, and the Democrat might run for 2028 first election where she will meet the Constitutional age of 35 years old former congressman Matt Gaetz claimed Alex has told people she's running in 2028 since 2019. AOC's names appear among potential Democratic contenders like Harris, Pete, Whitmer, Newsom, and a few others.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Critics and supporters debate AOC's chances, with Bascar Sunkara suggesting it would be better for the left to run on labor leader with broader appeal than an already polarizing figure leftist podcaster Matthew Sitman Opine. If AOC runs, she's going to get absolutely smoked, while David Sirota warned her campaign could falter if run by DC careerists, AOC's alignment with Bernie Sanders leftist policies and her outsider status remains points of contention. Tom. Well, you have to understand how you run.
Starting point is 00:50:54 You run in the primary system and now we know that Bernie Sanders was absolutely screwed in South Carolina. Yep. So you have to remember, it's Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina. For those for those of you who've been watching, you can pay attention to how the primary schedules have been manipulated
Starting point is 00:51:13 in the last two elections or no primary at all, because our guy Joe doesn't need one. So watch what the DNC does. If the mainstream DNC moves the primaries a little bit and puts any dark blues up there, then they're opening the door for AOC. She cannot start in Iowa, go to New Hampshire, and then go to South Carolina and get momentum.
Starting point is 00:51:36 That individual is correct. She will get smoked early on that because she needs to get to a California. She needs to get to a New York. She needs to get to a Michigan in the primary you see what I mean to have momentum and headlines Oh my gosh, she won a big stage. She won this in the primary So I believe that her ideology is wrong for the mainstream However, she knows how to turn a line. She is telegenic. She is powerful at the microphone
Starting point is 00:52:01 She will be the kind of TV podcast candidate that can really carry the branding and the message. But the way those primaries are set up in the DNC, they will set that up to have Newsom or Whitmer or somebody they think is more bankable because the DNC selects a candidate and then sets up the trap doors and the stairs on the primary system. Adam, I mean, this is the continuing problem with the democratic party is that rather than searching for something in the middle, something that is relevant to all Americans, you're going to New York Bronx, Queens woke leftist and being like, come on, you got this thing
Starting point is 00:52:42 AOC. I mean, this is the person who basically I think she removed her gender pronouns Somewhat recently maybe she brought him back, but it's completely did did she bring him back? She's not she didn't she said they they took a says they took a walk I'm sorry to hear that for her on her behalf So this comes down to a conversation that we continually have what's more important personality or policy? I would say personality is this is what basically will get her sort of in the conversation. But once she gets on the debate stage, once there's actually even a primary in the Democratic Party, all her horrible ideas are going to be exposed. You saw what
Starting point is 00:53:19 she did with Tom Homan when she tried to grow this guy a professional on the border. And she's like, well, you're separating on the border. And she's like, well, you're, you're separating children from their parents. He's like, yeah, that's exactly what happens when they commit a crime, whether they're a legal status or not. That's what happens when you commit a crime. So ultimately will the Twitter world and the social media world basically catapult her to start them?, sure. But when stuff hits the fan, and she has to actually debate her ideas, she's gonna get smug.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Why would she wanna run for president? 2019, she said the world's gonna end in 12 years through the climate change, so it'd be a waste of time if you asked me why would she even wanna run? The world's, we're not gonna be here. Well, there's a couple things here. There's a couple things here. When you think about serious, when you think about possibilities, when you think about
Starting point is 00:54:08 potential, here's what the reality is. She is running because of the Democratic Party. Meaning Trump ran because of the Republican Party. Trump ran because the establishment right was screwing things up. Trump ran because of Karl Rove. Trump ran because of all those establishment guys that are like, they're not going to let him run. Who the hell you think you are?
Starting point is 00:54:33 You're not going to be able to come and tell us that you're going to be the person that's going to be running. We decide who runs. No, you don't. It's called capitalism. I'm going to come in and do whatever I want to do based on the laws that are created for me to be able to run for office in America. My name is Donald J. Trump. I'm gonna come in and do whatever I want to do based on the laws that are created for me to be able to run for office In America, my name is Donald J. Trump. I'm running I'm coming down the escalator and I'm running. Okay, we're gonna fix the border
Starting point is 00:54:52 We're gonna get rid of these criminals these rapists and it's gonna piss you off. Here's what we're gonna be doing ready Invite me to your show CNN MSNBC. I brought out a dadada. Here's what we're gonna be doing We're gonna make America great again. Hey, so right now, out of everybody that has the highest chance of winning, who do you think's the one with the most likely of winning? Trump and Coulter on Bill Maher. You're out of your mind.
Starting point is 00:55:14 George Clooney, he will never be, I mean, what are we talking about? He will never be the president. Nancy Pelosi, he's not gonna be a president. At least I will go down as a president. Yeah, yeah. None of that stuff worked. And the same is for AOC.
Starting point is 00:55:34 AOC's the same. She's got 12.8 million followers on Twitter. AOC's got a real following. And the market can tell you whatever they want to tell you but she is popular amongst the youth and they're getting older and AOC herself if she's able to watch the mistakes that Bernie made she has to watch Bernie's mistakes there's a reason why Bernie is not a president today and never will be. Bernie, he missed his chance. She has to sit there and say, well what adjustments would I make? That's the case study she has to study on Bernie. Now at the same
Starting point is 00:56:19 time she's gonna be coming in going up against one of the most formidable candidates that we're gonna have in 2028 who She's not gonna be able to beat you know who that guys JD Vance now You're not gonna be be JD Vance be back her debating JD not gonna happen her debating the vague not gonna happen Her debating a lot of people it's not gonna happen, but does that mean she can't run she is very formidable I'm telling you she's marketable, she's formidable, she's attractive, I think a couple things will hurt her. I mean, people are gonna judge me on this and get upset. I can't believe you just said what you just said.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Next four years, does she have any kids? Is she getting married? Is she gonna have any family? Is she not gonna do that? I don't know. America's going back to wanting to have kids and having families again. It's the women on the left that don't wanna do it.
Starting point is 00:57:04 But most Americans wanna have kids. They wanna go back to, so what am and having families again. It's the women on the left that don't want to do it. But most Americans want to have kids. They want to go back to, what am I doing here right now, wasting my life? This feminist movement didn't work. That is not going to work today like it did 40 years ago. It's just not. Because you know when first everybody started using steroids? You know what we didn't have when steroids first came out? Decades of research of what it could do to you.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Do you know what happens the moment there was decades of research of abuse with could do to you. Do you know what happens the moment there was decades of research of abuse with steroids? People stopped doing it. Bodybuilders dying between 35 to 45 years old. Why are they dying? Now we have research. You know why at first feminism was attractive? Because it was a, okay, yeah, makes sense.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Yeah, I'm a feminist and we can beat these men. 60 years later, guess what? I'm lonely with my cat, no kids, no husband, and I'm sitting here watching The View with a bunch of miserable people that are all single, no kids, nothing. Do I want that life? I don't want that life.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Maybe I screwed up. If she makes a couple adjustments and gets the right people in her ears, and she goes on podcasts and trains herself, like the next year and a half, what would do well for her is to go on podcasts that disagree with her and hang. Two hours, do 50 of them, do 100 of them
Starting point is 00:58:18 the next two years to get yourself tougher. That's what Vivek did. And every time Vivek would come out, okay, interesting, boom, boom, boom, tighten the messaging. RFK, boom, boom, boom, tighten the messaging. Trump, boom, boom, boom, tighten the messaging. If she really needs to run,
Starting point is 00:58:33 don't start doing podcasts in two years. Start doing podcasts now. Like right off the bat, go do podcasts next two years. Go to everybody and see how you perform there and she'll get our argument tighter. And if she is able to come a little bit further right from being far left, maybe she'll be marketable, but we'll see what she'll do. We're going to move. Anyways, one thing to keep in mind before she can get to debate
Starting point is 00:58:56 of a vac or a JD, she's going to have to basically get past her own party. I believe that 2028 is going to be the democratic version of what the Republicans did in 2016. You know how many candidates were on stage with Trump 16 candidates boom boom boom boom boom boom. They're going to have to recalibrate and have a debate a good old fashioned debate of ideas and let the best man or woman win because of the we got to go to next. Yeah. I thought you were going to go to next door.
Starting point is 00:59:22 All right. So boom. I said that already. Boom boom boom. What's the next? Let's go to the next story. All right, so boom, I said that already, boom, boom, boom. What's the next, let's go to the next story here. Adam's been Googling a lot lately. And I'm trying to get him. I mean, if there's one thing he does, he Googles, but when it comes down to the ladies, he does not Google.
Starting point is 00:59:35 ChatGVT guy. Googling is for old people, and that's a problem for Google. According to Wall Street Journal, folks, if you're Googling, stop. Okay, honestly, stop. It's not cool anymore. Let's read the story here. Google faces growing threats to its dominance with younger generation turning to platforms
Starting point is 00:59:52 like Amazon and TikTok where 23% of users conduct searches with 30 seconds of opening the app. AI-powered answer engines such as ChadGBT with integrated internet search are also competing with NYU professor Melissa Schilling noting AI is to search what ecommerce was to Walmart. One more time, AI is to search engine what ecommerce was to Walmart. Wow, exactly. The rise of AI generated content is degrading and the quality of web search results in Google's
Starting point is 01:00:22 AI driven summaries while innovative reduced traffic to external websites, George Kluckman from Finastra warned that as web traffic declines, the incentive to produce content diminishes, asking what does that mean for all the websites we have out there, Tom? Well, this is absolutely correct. So the headline is Googling is for old people,
Starting point is 01:00:44 that's a problem for Google. What it should say is, search is in the middle of a natural product life cycle. What happened to the minivan? It went away and we have crossovers and larger SUVs providing us more utility, and you really don't want to go buy a minivan. They're out there, but they're not selling
Starting point is 01:01:02 the way they were in the 80s and early 90s. So now search is having a natural life cycle. Where does Google get their search information, Vinny? They scrape the web and websites. And what this guy is saying is fewer websites make rich content, that's less for Google to scrape and have smart responses for you. Instead, they're using AI against the libraries that are inside tick-tock
Starting point is 01:01:26 So it is a generational thing the younger generation is using tick-tock tick-tock says hey if people want to search for things What is the objective long session time? Hey, we got to put search in here We don't want them leaving to go to somewhere else want them to stay in tick-tock watch more videos So we can make money. Guess what? We could do some search, Vinny. Let's do it. Let's search things.
Starting point is 01:01:49 And that's what's happening. And this is, so one of the things here is AI is to search, with e-commerce was to Walmart. Well there still is a Walmart, but there's a hell of a lot of Amazon. If you look at the boxes that stack up three days after Black Friday on your street and what's on everybody's porches. And so search is having a natural progression of product life cycle and people that don't want customers to leave their sites or doing everything they can to add search to keep them.
Starting point is 01:02:17 And like Amazon and TikTok are doing that very, very well. And so now it's up to Google, do they respond like a capitalist and keep themselves relevant and adjust their content, or do they let the newer generation get seed, newer generation of consumers get seized and held by other people. This is a capitalist war and it's good.
Starting point is 01:02:36 By the way, look at this here, estimated share of US search advertising revenue from 2018 to today. Google was 60% where at the time Amazon was 10%. Google is now at 48%, Amazon is at 24%. Amazon went up 140%, Google dropped 20%, okay? They're at 48.3%, yes. And then Microsoft is going lower, Apple is gradually going up, and then there's the
Starting point is 01:03:06 other. Rob, do they have anything there with chat GBT or no? In regards to the traffic, I noticed on the article at the bottom, they didn't have anything in... Can you just control, can you do control F chat GBT and see what shows up? Okay, what does it say? The second thread is a rise of answer engines like perplexity, which, well, do they say, OpenAI has added inner search to chat,
Starting point is 01:03:33 you've been meta-platforms exploring, building its own search engine, and even AI chatbots that can't search the internet are proven increasingly capable at addressing many questions. Interesting that you're saying they scrape, and the fact that people are no longer like blogging used to be a thing.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Can you type Rob, like history of volume of blogging, what's the word to put? History on, yeah, let's see what comes up. And then go to images, see if it shows us on how much blogging happens What is the right word to type? history of total blogs being written, maybe that's what it is. I don't know I'm wondering if you go to Images if I go I want to see the number became a podcast right personal looks sub stack, but that oh that is that it Rob
Starting point is 01:04:23 No, that's average word count for blog posts. Well, that's also part of it. That's a part of it. Watch that. That's from when though? It doesn't say time. 2019, beginning of 2019 to the end of 2019. Average word count for blog posts written in 2019 from the beginning to the end.
Starting point is 01:04:43 147, 180, oh my God, it got to 200,000? What is that? No, I think what this is saying is, it's saying how many word count was the most words written per article, and the most is 1231 to 1351, is what it's saying. That was the one that people wrote the most. What I'm trying to find out is,
Starting point is 01:05:08 is blogging dead, is what I'm asking. Because blogging, what you don't get is personality when somebody writes. You can get a little bit, but not a lot of it, right? You know, when they say communication, it's 7% written. What is the 738.55? Can. What is the 738.55? Can you type in the 738.55? You know which one it is.
Starting point is 01:05:31 738.55 rule. If you type in 738.55, 7% of meaning is conveyed through spoken words, 38% through tone of voice, 55% through body language. You don't have body language in blog, and you don't have voice and tone in blog. Words you do seven out of a hundred. Blogging is dead and if they can't scrape 40 articles, you know, I mean that's a go ahead.
Starting point is 01:05:57 There's that voice and tone and when someone calls you dear and then you don't know how to respond is that a good thing or a bad thing? What's going on there? But you know what this story reminds me of about how Googling is for old people. What's the story we covered the one day is that the one constant has changed. I think if you go back in the history of the fortune 500 companies and you go back to 1950s, I want to say only 10% of the fortune 500 companies that were within the top 500 still even exists at this point. Right, Pat? So all these companies that are basically crushing it, delivering it, fortune 500 companies 50 years later don't even exist. So if you're not basically updating yourself, what do we say around here? Outwork on prove out strategize outlast. You also
Starting point is 01:06:40 have to do that as a company. It's not just for a person. It's for a company. So what's the whole joke with Facebook? Oh, my grandma's on Facebook. So I don't even want to be on Facebook. Is Google becoming the new Facebook for search engines? We see what's going on with chat GPT and the chat bots and AI. What's going on with that? Um, tick tock. I think tick tock is the most searched platform that for Gen Z. Is that what it is? They use tick tock. By the way, just quick note, what's going on with TikTok? I thought they were shutting, it had to sell. What's going on with all that?
Starting point is 01:07:10 Now that Trump's coming to the office, he's gonna do something. Apparently TikTok CEO had a call with Elon Musk. Can you type in TikTok CEO, Elon Musk? TikTok CEO, Elon Musk. And if you go to news, yeah, right there, that's the first one. TikTok CEO reaching out to Elon Musk for information you go to news, yeah right there that's the first one. TikTok CEO reaching out to
Starting point is 01:07:25 Elon Musk for information on Trump presidency. Is that a list of PIPCO right there by the way? Save the popular TikTok as Chinese own video sharing site faces a ban following the law signed by Biden. It is PIPCO and if you go a little bit lower it's... Musk endorses Trump last one. Okay, it's an older, so yeah, they reached out to have a conversation because they're trying to get closer. But TikTok is not in a bad place as it was two years ago. Not with Trump. Why is that?
Starting point is 01:07:56 It's not. One of the bigger investors in TikTok is a friend and TikTok on the inside, like even when he talked to Charlie Kirk when he was here on the inside. Like even when he talked to Charlie Kirk, when he was here on the podcast, he talked about what he did with TikTok. He got ahold of the executive and whatever some of the marketing team
Starting point is 01:08:14 that he had a call with, he told him what works, what doesn't work. Even Charlie Kirk blew up on TikTok. Charlie's got probably 20 videos on TikTok, over 20 million views on his account. So TikTok also adjusted. Yeah, but that doesn't negate the fact that they've been spying and collecting data from Americans and they're still owned by the CCP. How is this story basically just coming and
Starting point is 01:08:34 going and not that you're doing anything wrong here, Pat, but this was a major story that they were going to have to divest or sell. And now it's just a non-issue. This conversation should happen again, with TikTok, no? It's probably going to happen after you get to everybody. The part that's kind of weird Tom is the fact that Musk, think about Musk selfishly. Does Musk want TikTok to do well or do bad selfishly? It's a competitive platform. He doesn't want it to do well. But you know what it is? TikTok CEO feels comfortable enough to talk to Musk.
Starting point is 01:09:07 So I don't know. Maybe Musk is country over competition. Who knows? But all I'm saying is I don't think we know the whole story on what's going on with Tic Tac on the relationships on the inside time. You were going to say something. I'm going to move on to the next. No, I was going to say getting back to your original question on on Google It's hey capitalism works man. Nokia was building phones and they were number one for a long time They didn't adapt and change and now and Android and Apple destroyed them starting in 2006 it's coming up on 20 years I mean and Nokia is still around but a shell of their older self
Starting point is 01:09:41 Chrysler is now called Stellantis and you know you saw what happened with minivans. This just shows capitalism works but when we're seeing it in the social media and we're seeing it with new, it's interesting. We think Pat of tech companies as young and hip. You don't realize how old Google really is and that they are coming up on lifestyle things. And same thing that Facebook. Everybody was like, wow, are you kidding me? Yeah, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18-year-old kids were not on Facebook.
Starting point is 01:10:11 They weren't banking profiles. No, my mom did that. And I was on there when I was a kid in the little league in soccer. My mom used to put my thing. That's my mom's thing. That's not for me. We're forgetting that new generations are coming up
Starting point is 01:10:23 with new preferences and old products are having their life cycle moments. And that's what's happening here. And along the way, players that are not playing well, like TikTok, are gonna have their hearings and we're gonna find out what happens to them. Yeah, and by the way, talking about social media, very interesting what they did in Australia.
Starting point is 01:10:43 No social media for anyone under the age of 16. What to know about Australia's new ban. Rob, if you have the clip on this, a ban on social media for children under 16 which drew criticism from social media companies and leaders past the Australian Senate on Thursday, poising to become the first, world's first law designed to keep children off social media. The ban which would allow Australia to fine companies for not preventing children from the age of 16 having accounts passes 34 to 19. I mean that's like an overwhelming victory on Thursday.
Starting point is 01:11:14 After passing the House 102 to 13 on Tuesday, according to Associated Press, it's expected quickly to become law when it will give social media companies one year to prevent those under the age of limit, under age limit from having accounts or otherwise risk being fined. You ready? Thirty-three million dollars per. Did you hear that? Per what?
Starting point is 01:11:37 Per each account that they allow this to happen is thirty-three million dollars per. She'll break you down. Critics of the bill and the government expressed concerns. It was rushed and one independent lawmaker said it was a blunt instrument that would not actually hold social media companies accountable. Go ahead, Ra, play this clip. Social media has a social responsibility. We know they can and should do better to address harms on their platforms. That's why we're making big changes to hold
Starting point is 01:12:05 platforms to account for user safety. The Online Safety Amendment Social Media Minimum Age Bill 2024 will amend the Online Safety Act 2021 by introducing a minimum age of 16 to have an account on age-restricted social media platforms, protecting young Australians at a critical stage of their development. The bill puts the onus on social media platforms, not parents or young people, to take reasonable steps to ensure fundamental protections are in place. Tom, thoughts on this?
Starting point is 01:12:40 So there's two parts to this. First of all, I worry whenever a government says that the onus is on the company and not the parents or the young people There's got to be parents involved here. So that worries me. However, the logic that Australia used was Kids were distracted in the classroom and it was very difficult to control them asking them to put their phones aside was Resulting in videos where students were very upset with their teachers. There was an ongoing stress through constant comparison that they said was not healthy for girls 13 to 15
Starting point is 01:13:14 as they're developing. And there were girls hurting themselves as the more shy and more quieter by personality were under the stress of this comparison actually hurting themselves and there was more than enough and we've got evidence of this actually every country in the world who cares to look there's a lot of predators that are out there and so you know they're saying okay enough is enough we the government are taking steps now I think there should be parental controls in place and parental involvement,
Starting point is 01:13:45 and parents should be making decisions, because I do disagree with Australia saying, we will put the onus on the social media companies, not the parents, and not the young people. That there is a liberal trope about how we at the government know better than you do, and I think that's kind of dangerous, but you can't argue with the logic of all the consequences that
Starting point is 01:14:08 they've seen among the youth. Vinny, how do you process this? I think it's, and you know how I stand with the social media, with the kids and the phones and the just you know watching how you know how you are with the kids with time like I am pro letting them live their lives go out play meet people do the thing I think social media at a young age is messed up. But this is Australia we're talking about. If they care so much about the kids, look at what they made them go through during the COVID lockdown with the schools and the mask.
Starting point is 01:14:34 I saw videos of them shoving masks on this kid. The kids are crying and then vaccines and all that stuff. So I think it's a good idea. Their track record isn't that good. But A, I don't have any kids. But the same token, I wouldn't want them rotting their brains on social media at a young age. I think 16 is a good age where you're like, okay, I've lived my life, I know how to meet
Starting point is 01:14:51 friends, I know how to socially interact with people, Tom, I know how to talk to people. I went to a restaurant this weekend, it was Humberto's birthday, I'm going to a restaurant and the whole, everybody is just, everybody was on a different social media app. The mom was on TikTok, the father was on TikTok different social media app. The mom was on tik-tok the father's on tik-tok Nobody was talking to each other the kid I didn't hear one I mean people weren't complaining because they're like you thank God the kids aren't making noises not one peep from anybody at that table There's another table and they were all on tik-tok just like this like zombies. Nobody was talking
Starting point is 01:15:17 I think it's actually a good idea to keep it out of keep it the 16. I think at the end of the day Young people need to prioritize socializing over social media. How many young people though, do we meet that can't even look you in the eye and shake your hand or they give you one of these fish things or you know, you've seen a whole table of dinner and then everyone just kind of sitting here like this. I love the fact that we have dinners now we actually put our phones away. I love hot route right there.
Starting point is 01:15:41 But you know, Ron DeSantis came about what? Six months a year ago, had a new law in Florida. You have to be at least 14 years old to start a social media account unless the parent authorizes this. Now Australia is pushing it out to 16, a little on the older end of this. But then you juxtapose that with when you ask and you pull young people, what do you want to be when you grow up? What do they all say? I want to be a YouTuber. I want to be a Tik Tok or I want to be an influencer. So how are you going to basically stop young people from accessing social media? Are you giving them phones? I mean, my, my nephew, he's 12 years old. He has an Apple watch. Do any of your kids have a phone yet? Tico is not, none of
Starting point is 01:16:22 them have a phone. So this comes down to Tom, as you said, parenting, what are the parenting comfortable with? I have a good buddy of mine. I won't mention his name. He's going through a little situation with his wife right now and the kids and the oldest kid, I think he's like 10 years old. All he does is do this on, on his phone, on his phone. And he's posting clips to, to YouTube. And I'm like, you got to stop your kid from doing this
Starting point is 01:16:45 He's like I can't there's a restraining order. There's all this issue going on But I'm looking at the at the guy basically melt because he can't stop his son From basically doing all this nonsense on social media because the wife is totally cool with it. So This is a conversation that needs to happen. What do you think? I have a 15 year old and he is not on any social media platforms. We take his phone. I took what you did with, I know that you have a rule with your children where they have to read in order for them to get things.
Starting point is 01:17:14 We started doing that with my son. He has to do 30 minutes of yoga. He has to do 30 minutes on the treadmill. Then he can have his cell phone, but his cell phone doesn't have any apps on it that are tied to social media. So the only things that he can really do on the phone is text his mother and I and make phone calls to his friends. Otherwise, they get in that doom scroll, where they'll just continue to scroll and scroll and scroll,
Starting point is 01:17:32 and it drives me nuts. And I agree. I saw I went to a restaurant with my family and saw the same thing Vinny did. You look around, every single person, they just hand the phones to the kids because it's an easier way for parents to parent instead of actually doing the hard work of parenting.
Starting point is 01:17:45 Yeah, Tom calls it what? The electronic pacifier. Just I don't want to deal with you. Are you good with it being illegal? No. Why? I agree with Tom. Too much government overreach.
Starting point is 01:17:56 I would prefer to force parents to do the job of parenting. And if they don't want to do that job of parenting, then there's going to be ramifications that are going to affect their children that they're going to have to deal with for the rest of their lives. Look at, Hunter Biden is a prime example of somebody who has babied his entire life, was given a silver platter and now look what he does.
Starting point is 01:18:14 He gets a pardon for doing all of these things. It's just, it's starting a bad trend for kids and parents. So when is law good? Is laws always bad? Like for example, should we make cigarettes available to kids under the age of 18? It's unhealthy to smoke cigarettes, right? Should we allow kids to smoke cigarettes under the age of 18? Should we allow kids to be able to drink alcohol under the age of 18? Should we allow kids to be able to drink alcohol under the age of 18?
Starting point is 01:18:45 Should we allow kids to, because some may say, well no, cigarettes is actually in health, it's bad for your health, and drinking is bad for your health. Social media is actually bad for your health, because interaction with other human beings is part of your health. You being addicted to a mechanism is a form of a health issue.
Starting point is 01:19:11 I'm just trying to play the devil's advocate to play the argument that somebody may say, okay, you want to be the guy that you're worried about overreach? Great. Why don't we just remove age categories on cigarettes and alcohol, Tom? Why don't we do that? What do you say to that person? We move age categories on cigarettes and alcohol, Tom. Why don't we do that? What do you say to that person? Well, there's two sides to it. First of all, once the research is apparent, this is the role of government.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Government is to build the border and protect that border, to protect you from known threats. And once we discovered what we discovered, that Chesterfield, that we've been paying doctors, they're saying my doctor smokes Chesterfield and it says it contained vitamins. That was an ad that the industry actually did. And so once you know that it causes cancer
Starting point is 01:19:55 and emphysema and all these things, then you say, okay, if you're 21, you can do it, but no kids, no advertising it near schools there was all those things that they did that because they would take Joe camel an animated camel and tried to make him look appealing and interesting and fun like Disney and he was Joe cool and trying to attract kids to smoke so those laws become good alcohol we go nationwide now at 21. That's good because we see limits. The information now is there,
Starting point is 01:20:28 and so why not having a broad-based law about the age for social media now that we understand the consequences? The same thing that we have for guns and alcohol. And guess what? Parents that don't control the access to guns have been brought into court. Parents that allowed kids to drink or enabled them to drink when a kid gets drunk and does something are brought into court. So it's
Starting point is 01:20:55 not a bad thing when the government says the common good that there's enough information here that we need to go and put a law in place. What bothers me about Australia is the quote saying, the onus is not on the parents or the kids. No, I'm with that there. I'm with that there. That quote flips me out. No, I'm with that there.
Starting point is 01:21:16 The government making limits and guarding those limits is not necessarily a bad thing. I'm with that. All I'm trying to say is because to me, if it's overreach, well then guess what? Parent better so your kids don't smoke cigarettes. Parent better so your kids don't buy alcohol. Why don't you go parent better?
Starting point is 01:21:32 This is the part where I think a debate between the two with arguments and stats, when I read Anxious Generation, written by a guy on the left who agreed that conservatives raise better kids than the left does, conservatives raise happier, healthier kids than the left who agreed that conservatives raise better kids than the left does. Conservatives raise happier, healthier kids than the left do. Every parent should read this book, Anxious Generation. Every parent.
Starting point is 01:21:53 I read it and I told everybody around me to read it to the point that, guys, this is what's weird. Every year I hold an insurance conference that's only for CEOs of major insurance companies and executives of major insurance companies. I've been doing this since 2015. Every year I give them a gift. Every single year I give them a gift.
Starting point is 01:22:11 I gave the Buffett letters. I gave God knows how many different things I've given over the years. Tom, you've been a part of many of these when I'm giving these gifts out. You know what book I'm giving to all the executives this week? It's this week. What's this week? Is it Thursday or Friday? I'm giving them the book Anxious Generation.
Starting point is 01:22:25 So I think every one of them, directly and indirectly, is dealing with us with kids. I don't know. I think there's a part of me that sits there and says, you know, it's a, hey dad, I want to be able to drive at 12 years old. No, the loss is 16. But I want to drive at 12. No, the loss is 16. What a bad father you are. If it wasn't a law, maybe you would. No, the loss is 16. What a bad father you are. If it wasn't a law, maybe you would drive, but the loss is 16. So say there's not a law for driving.
Starting point is 01:22:49 Dad, can I drive? Joey's dad lets him drive at 12? No, in this family it's 17. You're a horrible father. Mary's mom allows her to drive at 13. If there's not a law, I think the law part, I don't know, I don't know. I get kids that come over to the house
Starting point is 01:23:11 and I just watch them, they drive me insane. When I watch them glued to their deal, it's insane. First of all, it's disrespectful when you're sitting there with somebody, you're talking, they're on the phone the entire time. Okay, man. Hello. Yeah, I'm here. McFly yeah I'm here McFly I'm here there's people around you hello Tom hello Vinny hello Pat hello come on guys come on we
Starting point is 01:23:35 got versus set them aside let's talk your force and even when we're doing the phones not Nexus what do we do you notice we go like this oh you're you notice we're doing it is like I can't wait to look at it. I don't think this is just a kid's thing. I think this is also hurting adults. Yeah. It's a real thing. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:23:53 I'm a little bit with creating a way for guidelines to be created for parents and social media companies to not target kids. I'm partly there. How old were you when you got your first phone? 22. Okay, that wasn't even a smartphone, just a regular old phone. No, that was the old snake game, whatever the snake game was. On Nokia.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Yeah, on Nokia. Vinnie, how old were you? When I got my first phone. Shoot, I think like when I was late, really late. Just looking for a number here, buddy. That's late. 16, Tom. 17. I don't know. Six years old. No, no, no. I'm on a calculator set of a pacifier. Okay. My first phone was almost $2,000 and it was installed in my car when I was 20 gangster six hair waving in the ago, Tom. Women all over him.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Rob, how old were you? 16. Okay, so we all got our first phones when we were 18, 16, 20, 22 somehow. Tom, whatever age you were. This is exactly what we're talking about right now is that we're not even getting access to any of the kids. We all got this when we first smartphone I got, I think was smartphone 2008. Okay, so now you're born. Imagine Dylan. Hey, what's up? I'm a young stud, six years old, boom, phone, my
Starting point is 01:25:11 hand computer. What kind of issues this can create for young boys, for young girls, what's going on there? And the parents are just enabling them. Now as long as you can make kids away from social media, I had my way. I would find a way to get the Santas to ban you from having a phone. But that's a different story. It's better for society from having a phone. What is a Ute? A conversation to have. Youts. By the way, why don't we help some people find $2 million? Is that okay with you?
Starting point is 01:25:42 A Bitcoin millionaire hid $2 million on treasure across the U.S. Here's how to find them. Let me read this story to you and I'm going to go to Vinny. John Collins Black, inspired by his love of fantasy and famous for his fan, Treasure Hunt, has hidden five treasure chests across the U.S. for two million dollars. His book, There is Treasure Inside, provides all the clues you need to locate the chests which are custom-designed puzzle boxes containing rare collectibles, historical artifacts, and valuable items such
Starting point is 01:26:10 as a brooch once owned by Jackie Onassis, a 96-carat emerald, and Wilma Rudolph's 1960 Olympic gold medal. The treasure hunt is designed to be accessible and safe, requiring no dangerous exploration or digging. Collins Black assured participants, anyone of average health, can travel to these sites, emphasize that the chests are not on private property. Thousands of treasure hunters have joined online forums like Discord to collaborate on solving the clue.
Starting point is 01:26:39 Vinny, what a, I mean, what a, when I first heard it, I was like, oh, let's just get a van pat, let's get out there and go. And then I saw the book and I'm like, what a gangster business move. The book is, well, how much is it right there, Rob? 45, where we at? It's on discount right now. 47, 44. 47, 44.
Starting point is 01:26:58 And then if you get it, does it say how long it takes to get to you? Because I'm trying to figure out when this competition has started. When would it get here, Rob? Look at it. Look at it. how long it takes to get to you? Because I'm trying to figure out when this competition has started. When would it get here, Rob? Look at it. Look at it. Look at it. Look at it. Look at it.
Starting point is 01:27:10 Look at it. Look at it. Look at it. Look at it. Look at it. Look at it. Look at it. Look at it.
Starting point is 01:27:18 Look at it. Look at it. Look at it. Look at it. Look at it. Look at it. Look at it. Look at it. Look at it. Look at it 50% of it. So it's really 88,000 books. So 88,000 books I think he'll do a but and let me get I want to go over some of the contents as well that you didn't So he has Bitcoin in there. You talked about the emerald a
Starting point is 01:27:31 Sharzard Pokemon card 2002 Antique salvage from a shipwreck. It's no joke This is a treasure a jelly glass once owned by George Washington a sapphire a BCE gold Greek laurel coined designed and minted by Pablo Picasso, a lunar rock specimen, and you'd appreciate this, 1986 Michael Jordan rookie card. Yeah, rookie card. Yeah, so here are some of the things.
Starting point is 01:27:57 He spent five years doing it. The book are challenging, they're designed to test the most, Tom, you'd be freaking perfect at this. Somebody that's adept to treasure hunting. Tom is huge in the treasure hunting community. The chests are not located on private property. Anyone can do the hunt. You have to get the book.
Starting point is 01:28:17 And if the treasure remains undiscovered for a long time, he plans to release, ready for this, additional clues to assist the hunters. Probably another book because he made it so hard to find the first time. But I think there's another guy, Tom, I don't know if you remember this, an art dealer named Forrest Fenn, he did the same thing where he had a chest of gold and jewels in the Rocky Mountains. Yeah, and five people died trying to find that.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Five people died. And the guy who found it kept it secret. Yeah, scumbag. Something like that. But I think this is a great- Is this creative? Is this like a way of selling? Is he gonna get a return on his money?
Starting point is 01:28:55 Well, let's just see how many books were bought. If you're really clever and you hide it really good and you make the clues really difficult, then maybe you'll make the two million back on the sale of the book. Well, because I was going to ask, how would we, can we find out right now how many books he sold?
Starting point is 01:29:11 How many books do you have to sell? It takes 60% of the price of the book. So it's 80,000. 80,000 books. So here's my question. Can we find out how many he sold so far? Is there a way to find out how many books of Ver's treasure inside have been sold. Because Rob, yesterday it was, if you bought it yesterday,
Starting point is 01:29:29 it wasn't gonna come til December something. Today when you just showed it, it's mid-January. By the way, you know what the genius of this would be? What? There is no hidden treasure. He doesn't have to put it anywhere. And so no one's gonna find it, so people are gonna keep buying it.
Starting point is 01:29:41 Yeah, buy the second book. This is like Mel Fisher. But is that a crime. Is that a crime? No, it's lying. It's kind of not a crime. Just ask your body part in hunter bad right there bit of a scumbag move I don't know if it's a crime. I mean he just put the ball in his bag. Maybe treasure here. I don't know I Don't know. I think I think it's a great business idea and it's adding some excitement. Okay. How about this? Why don't you give me and Tom...
Starting point is 01:30:08 Guys, we have to finish the podcast because we have to go chase... Me and Tom want to leave. But let me tell you, for some of you guys that are... before we go through these last four stories, if you're in South Florida, this Thursday, is it Thursday, Tom? I think it's this Thursday, we are giving away hundreds of seven foot Christmas trees. He's making Christmas sounds. Please don't do your sound effects, Tom, unless if I ask for it.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Tom's sound effects. He looks childlike when he's doing that. Allow the young man to do his little thing. But it's a distraction when the person is trying to give away some Christmas trees. Tom does the tweaking of the, what do you call it? The weed sound and all this other stuff that he does. Imagine if he was eating a bag of chips right now.
Starting point is 01:30:52 You'd shut down this whole operation. I'll come back to this. There'd be a felony. I'll come back to this. Okay, I was not ready for that sound. I'm gonna have nightmares. You all right? Yeah, all right, so let's go to Cash Patel.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Cash Patel, Trump taps Cash Patel for FBI director and ally who would aid in his effort to append law enforcement. And by the way, God knows how many clips there is reacting to this. Trump's aid Cash Patel demands massive declassification, calls for release of Epstein and Diddy lists as truth must come out. A lot of people are concerned about this.
Starting point is 01:31:37 So Trump say cash Patel call for declassification including the Epstein list, Diddy list, the truth must come out no matter how uncomfortable Patel, a former national security official argued that these records Rob if you want to play this clip go to play this clip government gangsters go to play this clip Rob anyway The other thing that I put in the book that I recommended the boss to do it's on this we need a 24-7 Declassification off. Yes rolling papers out 24-7 and not just like a and not just 9 11 you're talking the guy that's read the whole 9 11 report and those seven pages of people
Starting point is 01:32:10 talk about but I believe as like the guy who is an intel guy who believes wholeheartedly in the classified system of information I believe that it has been over abused by these corrupt officials in government to hide the truth and the and enact more corrupt activity so what I told the boss like, I don't care what you call it, truth and reconciliation, whatever, come up with a better name. But every agency and department literally submits all of their documentation and I believe you could get half out, half. I still think the other half needs to remain classified.
Starting point is 01:32:40 I'll always argue that it does serve a purpose. But like you're seeing in these documents in the Jack Smith case They're just redacting stuff. Yeah, they lied about that. They broke the law I mean it's used to protect themselves and it's a public document in federal court Which is a document for the people of the United States and we can we can have you run that office You can come in and just be like hey, I want all the Saudi. I'll gladly Secretary for the libertarian party the declassifying the declassification. Absolutely. I like that. I'd be so happy. So local media, press secretary for the libertarian party. The declassifying documenter.
Starting point is 01:33:07 The viceroy of declassification. Absolutely, I like that. I'm in. You got the southward. What do you think about Cash Patel? Right now there is an all-time low confidence in government, exceeded only by the even lower low of people's trust in media. And I believe that the FCC chairman is very, very important and I believe Cash Patel is very important.
Starting point is 01:33:33 Because if we're gonna restore pride in America, it has to come with this thing called trust. And we have to elevate some trust over this gooey, corrupt, disgusting, smelly thing we call government. And I'm with him. I think you need to declassify a lot of these things to restore some public confidence, find out what happened in a couple of these things. He's right.
Starting point is 01:33:58 Jack Smith was redacting things that were basically the things they lied about. So it's a cover up. It's using the redaction and using classified to create the cover-up. I think a few of those, just like food poisoning, you just got to throw up the food, start eating the saltines, sip in the Gatorade, and get your body back to normal. And I think that's what he has to do. And I believe Cash is the guy to do it. And I think he's, look, he's not a political analyst. He is not
Starting point is 01:34:25 a pundit. The guy is a national security official that knows what the hell he's doing and isn't going to like declassify nuclear launch codes or secret CIA operations that are going on right now that where people could get hurt or things. He's going to restore trust. And I think he's absolutely correct. And he says he needs an office of declassification Okay, that shouldn't be declassified. That shouldn't be declassified. No, no, not that not that not that yes this because it does serve a purpose I think this is great news and I think that it's not going to take a day It's going to take time but I really want to see two years into this and to see what he has been able to classify and
Starting point is 01:35:04 It's going to be big headlines some of it's going to be breaking the glass But I think the american people sit back and say well You know what? Now it's out there, but the other thing that happens He doesn't let new things get classified and he's and he's got to be able to put a stop to some of that like Jack Smith classifying things just so they could hide lies. Vinny. I absolutely love this dude. I've been following this guy from when he was on Sean Ryan and when he was in Trump's administration. He said if he became the FBI director he said I would shut down the FBI Hoover building on day one and
Starting point is 01:35:41 reopen it the next day as a museum of the deep state. All right? And he said then I take the 7,000 employees that work in that building and send them across America to be chase down freaking criminals. Because you guys are cops. Go do your damn job. Stop being political activists for the freaking the leg of the freaking Democratic Party. He said every agency and department that I've worked for when it comes to the fiscal end of the year they're like go they go on trips, they go spend money, and he's like, you have to get back to Congress, and he goes, we can't do that.
Starting point is 01:36:08 So he was on Tim Dillon's PVD, and he was talking about... Tim Poole? Tim Poole, I'm sorry. Tim Poole, I apologize. And this was the January 6th situation. The entire January 6th, which has been bothering me when they try to push this insurrection and impeach Trump and all that stuff. This is what he's saying about Ray Epps about that day. And if it's okay, I want to show this and a quick clip of Ted Cruz talking to
Starting point is 01:36:30 Jill Sanborn with the FBI and she wouldn't admit out loud in front of Congress that there was no FBI people there injuring people and starting a freaking a riot. This is a, this is him on, on, on the Ray Epps situation. Go ahead, Rob. I'll get you beyond a reasonable doubt. Two pieces of information. Ray Epps was on FBI's most wanted list one day, and the next day he was off of the FBI's most wanted list.
Starting point is 01:36:53 There are only two ways that happens. You die or you're informant. Put that aside. Under congressional testimony, Jill Sanborn, who I used to work with, the head of the FBI counterintelligence division in charge of all these investigations, testified under oath when Senator Cruz asked her, flat out, were there federal agents involved with January 6th?
Starting point is 01:37:13 And she said, quote, Senator, I can't answer that at this time. If the answer was definitively no, having been a DOJ FBI guy myself, she would have gone there and said, nope, absolutely not. The reason she said I can't answer that is because of the same stonewalling they gave us during Russergate with Christopher Steele Halpern and everybody else. It's the same narrative. That's the guy that you wanted to have to have in Christopher Ray's job. Good riddance.
Starting point is 01:37:38 And this is it. He's asking Jill Sanborn basic questions. And if it's definitively no, just say, absolutely not. They weren't doing all these things she can't answer because it's true. Go ahead Rob. How many FBI agents or confidential informants actively participated in the events of January 6th? Sir I'm sure you can appreciate that I
Starting point is 01:38:00 can't go into the specifics of sources and methods. Did any FBI agents or confidential informants actively participate in the events of January 6th? Yes or no? Yes or no? Sorry, I can't answer that. Did any FBI agents or confidential informants commit crimes of violence on January 6th?
Starting point is 01:38:20 Six. I can't answer that. What? Did any FBI agents or FBI informants actively encourage and incite crimes of violence on January 6th? I can't answer that. She can't answer that because she knows that they were there. That's why Christopher Wray was there when he was in front of them and he goes I can't answer that. That's all they've been doing. I think he's a breath of fresh air that's going to come in and clean house. He's my favorite draft pick of this administration.
Starting point is 01:38:49 Hands down. Well, my favorite draft pick is by far and away Vivek and Ilan and Doge. But I applaud this pick. There's a couple of things that I, because I've been seeing a lot of his highlights, sort of his greatest hits that basically were from a few years ago. Number one, this guy is a true believer. He didn't just come out of nowhere and this is what he wants to do. He's been saying this for years and years and years and years. So I got to give someone respect for basically putting more of their money where their mouth is because if they would have lost, who knows would have ended up happening with cash for tell.
Starting point is 01:39:16 So respect on that. Number two, something that I think we're all recognizing is that we didn't fully understand this in 2016 and certainly not in 2020, but for sure in 2024 is that what people enjoy about Trump and basically the people that he's putting in the power are that they are the wrecking balls to the system in 2016 and 2020 everyone's like you can't this guy's he's not presidential. He can't come in. This is crazy What he's never gonna win all the all the naysayers people are basically recognizing that in 2024, everyone he's putting into the power and everybody that he's basically putting a part of his administration is because they
Starting point is 01:39:52 want to basically do away with the deep state, drain the swamp, get rid of the nameless, faceless bureaucrats who are running the country that we have $37 trillion of debt. Let's see what Doge does with this. So he's coming into power right now. Potentially. This is other than Matt Gates. I haven't, you saw all the everything that happened with Matt Gates. No way. They're not going to pick them. Not going to pick them. Boom. He drops out of the race. Other than him, it's a cash Patel number two, as far as what we're getting the backlash and the number three, Pete Hexeth. We'll see what happens. What backlash is he getting? He's
Starting point is 01:40:24 not getting a lot of people basically saying, Hey, listen, do you know how long the typical term of an FBI director is supposed to be? 10 years. Yeah. They want him to stay one way. So they want Christopher. Right. By the way, who, in all fairness, who put Christopher, Christopher Ray in
Starting point is 01:40:37 charge, like he would know that he turned into the 2017. I'm just saying these are the facts. Trump wants a new FBI director. What's know about what criticism is cash getting himself that That he's it. This is what they're saying Not me why he's ill-equipped that he's basically looking to dismantle the FBI everything he said So hear me out for a second. There was a Nobel Prize one. I believe in economics for a book written this year It was called why nations fail. So I don't know if you can find this. And it's
Starting point is 01:41:05 the origins of power, prosperity and poverty. And basically, the basic, yeah, this is it right here. The basic premise, okay, so it was, they won the Nobel Prize, but it was written a little while back. The basic premise is what separates powerful countries and rich countries and countries that have peace and prosperity are institutions. So what are the institutions in America? Our government, our electoral college, our systems, our FBI, Department of Justice, CIA. So when you have someone like cash come in and say, we need to take a wrecking ball to
Starting point is 01:41:40 the entirety of the FBI, which will basically be heading. Right. People have a lot of problems with that. So I don't have a problem with this because I believe that we do need some accountability for all the nonsense that has basically been exposed over the last four years, if not longer, but this is going to be a controversial pick. Let's see if he gets through Congress. Do you think he's going to make it through? I, I was saying yes. Humberto was like, no, there's absolutely no way he's next on the list. I mean they're gonna try to find something, but I mean the guy's been, he was the director of what, what was his previous job under Trump? Director of intelligence?
Starting point is 01:42:14 Assistant director or something like that? He has the background, he's a G. But listen, for everybody that says they're not qualified Everybody is not qualified for the job until they get the job of course there's an anybody that's on your kind of shit What's that again Rob? Sorry? Oh, no everybody is not qualified for the job until they get qualified for the job and for me, this is a very very very powerful job Very okay.
Starting point is 01:42:46 I hope Cash does what he said he's going to do. Because if he does, Cash is going to be someone that could increase the level of trust Americans have in the government. That's his role. Go back to the trust the American people have in the US government, Rob. Can you pull that up, the trust Americans have in the government. That's his role. Go back to the trust the American people have in the US government, Rob. Can you pull that up?
Starting point is 01:43:07 The trust Americans have in the US government. Was it less than six, was it 65? 23, 24, no, no. It's in the 20s. It's not a, it's not a. Congress was inside. Oh my goodness. Congress has been 19 to 20.
Starting point is 01:43:18 I thought it was all the way at the top, Rob. You just had it. What's that one right there? Public trust in government. It's less than 20%. It's 23% if I'm not mistaken. Zoom in a little bit, Rob, because I can't had it. What's that one right there? Yeah, right there. It's less than 20%. It's 23% if I'm not mistaken. Zoom in a little bit, Rob, because I can't see it.
Starting point is 01:43:28 Yeah, 23%, okay. So what is it, Ross? 22%, okay. So 22%, I would say if cash stays until 28, and that 22 goes to 40, 40 plus, he's the MVP. Yeah, he has the opportunity to play a very, very important role.
Starting point is 01:43:57 His job is a very important job, very important job. And I like the fact that he has the balance to say, I don't think we have to tell everybody everything and I think we have to keep some of this stuff. This is why I don't know if they're going to tell us everything about John F. Kennedy's assassination. I don't know if they will. I think RFK wants to go in there and see the files. He wants to see the files. But I don't know if they're even going to show it to him because to him it's so personal that he'll write something about it before he dies. Because how do you get somebody to post
Starting point is 01:44:29 and write something to say no matter what he's willing to commit? But if he's able to balance that out, he's got a lot of power in a sense, Tom. If you'll stay on this just for one second, Pat. Look where we were in 1960 after Eisenhower. We were at 77%. Yep, yep.
Starting point is 01:44:47 And 20 years, exactly 20 years, it went all the way down to 25%, 75% of 20. We lost 50 points. And we lost them on three things. Quite a bad thing's coming three. The Kennedy assassination, the Vietnam War, and then Watergate. And it all devolved our trust in government. We didn't trust Johnson.
Starting point is 01:45:12 We didn't trust, by the way, people forget is how much American people, once he was president, did not trust Lyndon Johnson at all. And it was over Vietnam. And then Nixon and Watergate, and they're like, wow, all the more reason not to trust it and there was Conspiracy theorists and everything going on all back then did we kill Kennedy? Even back then initial books were written and that's where it's at
Starting point is 01:45:33 By the way, it really hasn't it hasn't ever recovered There was a little you know run-up with W and Clinton believe it or not Culminating in 9-eleven a bit of a spike, but we need to get it back and there needs to be- That's what I'm saying. He's got a very important job. You're correct. I'm backing it up, pointing out how quickly three presidents and three events took 50%
Starting point is 01:45:57 of the confidence and the pride that people had in their government. You know what it is? I read a book on leadership by, who's the coach that won two Super Bowls for the Giants, what's the guy's name? Bill Parcell. Coughlin. Tom Coughlin. Tom Coughlin wrote a book on leadership.
Starting point is 01:46:16 It's the one right there, the first one right there that you got. Right there, that one. What does it say? Learn to, what is the title? Earn the right to win. Earn the right to win. And he says in his lifetime of coaching, he tried so many different ways to move people. The fear of loss, the FOMO, the chewing their asses out, public whatever and all this other stuff.
Starting point is 01:46:37 He says nothing ever drove us more than the pride to come through, individually and collectively, to say the pride of you can count on me. Vinny, can I count on you? You can count on me. Pepe, can I count on you? You can count on me. Can I count on, Timmy, you can count on us.
Starting point is 01:46:59 Can I count on, you can count on the team. Can I count on this department? You can count on us. Nothing comes close to the pride. More than the MVPs, more than the accolades, more than the contracts, more than any of that stuff. All that stuff is important. But the pride.
Starting point is 01:47:16 We did this thing together. You can rely on us, Coach. You can rely on us, America. You can rely on us, voters. You voted accordingly. You voted the You can rely on us voters. You voted accordingly You voted the right way with those seven states. We're gonna come through for you voters. There's nothing like it and Lot of these people that Trump's putting there are people that have a lot of pride on folks We got a lot of pride for Christmas. This is why this Thursday we are doing a We're getting given away hundreds of Christmas. We had to buy it from this one place in Carolina.
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Starting point is 01:49:22 I think one of the stories that we haven't gotten into yet that I wanted to really get into is this police in Moscow raid bars over LGBTQ propaganda. This is a barren story, okay? Adam's favorite story, not sure what, but you know, you and he has some thoughts on it. Adam, I'm gonna come to you first. Neither here nor there.
Starting point is 01:49:41 Yeah, it is what it is. We don't, but Moscow police raided at least three bars including the popular Mongo Gay Club, great name, mono, mono gay club, an infernal night, detaining patrons and arresting the director of a travel agency for gay men under laws, criminalizing LGBT propaganda. What is this about guys? Why is this a story? The director of Men Travel, a 40 year old gay travel agency owner, okay, was arrested for allegedly preparing a trip to for supporters of non-traditional sexual
Starting point is 01:50:14 values of Egypt. What? According to state media reports these actions coincide with one year anniversary of Russia's Supreme Court banning the international LGBT movement. Can you play this clip?? By the way is this appropriate clip to play? I don't want to do the pornhub situation again. I think we're okay. I didn't see any nudity when I watched it earlier. Vinny, is there any dangling? I haven't seen this one but if you guys do see Adam in there just not him. It's a lookalike. It's a doppelganger. Go ahead Rob. Go ahead kids. Close your eyes. Adults you're fine. Kids, close your eyes. Adults, you're fine.
Starting point is 01:50:52 I was dancing. I was just dancing. I don't get it though. What's this? So that's them raiding gay clubs. They're raiding them. Arresting people. Why are they raiding gay clubs? By the way, I don't think this is a gay story. I don't think this is a gay story. But we'll that's a gay story but we'll keep playing this clip what is this Rob so this the gay club now here's my question with these cops what's with the cage no no what question I got with the cops is why are you straight cops
Starting point is 01:51:15 going and spreading the legs of gay men yeah who are the gay men here yeah maybe it's the cops hey we have we have a mission. We are raiding this gay club I'll spread their legs and I'll rest them. I'm telling you I'm gonna do the right thing for Russia Please boss put me in. What is this situation all about? I have the By the way like what is this? Tom goes what's the cage? Yeah, no, I know there's like a... All right, Tom, give us your experience with what this place is like. I have zero experience with this, but I must share something. Over the weekend, you know, the story was coming up and I'm
Starting point is 01:51:58 like, what are they doing? And there was other news reports coming out and a human rights group came out that said that there were first of all you know that the the Russian Orthodox Church and Vladimir Putin yeah do not support or encourage the lifestyle choice. Some of those cops do. But go ahead. No they don't. They meet from the top. They don't. And there were pictures of some of these guys one of them had a black eye and he was holding up conscription papers. Wait black guy or you said black eye? Black eye. Black eye. You know what conscription is? It's where they they make you join the military. Draft.
Starting point is 01:52:37 It's right it's it's like draft or jail and you can find pictures of these guys showing the papers that said hey I was taken downtown they then gave me these checked my ID they told me that I was part of a anti-government you know protests or something and here's my papers I'm drafted and if you can find this, Rob, there's what people were saying that they were drafted on the spot. Now, there's a lot of BS and a lot of things can go around.
Starting point is 01:53:12 And I tried to find a couple different sources to kind of validate this. But if the Russian government is just deciding that it's gonna go draft people and it's running out of guys in the military, and they say, hey, you know what, we're not really encouraging this lifestyle. What if we busted the clubs and just give some of these guys conscription notices? Wow. And if that's what's happening, that's pretty
Starting point is 01:53:36 bad. But does this make sense though? So Russia, Putin. That's a great picture, Rob. Out of all the pictures, they said to pull that picture up picture up Rob did you find anything on that like no picture all the way that they that the club raids conscription picture up Rob I was looking for what he does not go ahead uh but but I go think about this so Russia shut down gay nightclubs because there was gay men hanging around other men. So now they're joining the military where they're just going to be surrounded around all men. Is that what they're doing?
Starting point is 01:54:12 Yeah, they're getting a conscription which is, so in Russia, conscription mandates all men 18 to 30 must serve one year term in the military. And then the recent legislation changes to 18 to 27. So you're giving these gay dudes orders to basically join the military where they're going to be like, can you imagine you're a Ukrainian soldier and you run into a gay Russian soldier and he's like, listen, I don't want to fight, but you're cute. Well, the good news is you only have to serve a year, right? And if you're killed in Ukraine, you don't have to finish the year.
Starting point is 01:54:42 Really? So you just, oh, okay. That's great. But let me ask you, so they're saying gay clubs are not legal in Russia. That's what they're saying. I don't think that's what they're saying. I think it's, they regard it as rebel, and so the reasons that the police had for going in there
Starting point is 01:55:02 seems sketchy, because it seems that it's legal to have these clubs Yeah, but they're looking for people to draft. That's the story. They need soldiers. By the way, Tom, let me ask you a question, Tom This is just too many options for me to angles to take. You mean to tell me these guys want to draft soldiers and they go to a gay club? That's exactly what they were doing. I think they're running. Well think they're running out of... I'm sure Zelensky is celebrating. No, they're running out of... No, the violent...
Starting point is 01:55:27 By the way, I'm not supporting this. What I'm saying is the Russian government... It sounds like that you think it's a good strategy. I don't think it's a good strategy. No, the Russian government is running out of guys. They're running out of guys that are coming voluntarily in the military. Is that the gun in your pocket? Gay men are still guys, but it's not... You think they're waking up saying, I want to go to war against Zelensky and you're Is there running out of guys that are coming voluntarily in the military? Is that the gun in your pocket?
Starting point is 01:55:45 Gay men are still guys, but it's not, you think they're waking up saying I want to go to war against Zelensky in Ukraine? You think that's what they're thinking? I don't think that's what they're thinking. I don't think so either. You think like that club is filled with like special forces, like Delta Force? It's filled with general infantry guys. They're going to be forced to join and they're going to get boots and a long rifle and they're
Starting point is 01:56:03 going to be sent out frontline guys. Maybe they like long rifle. Maybe they do. I was just going to say that true. Well, Tom, let me look. So I'm saying, Rob, did you find this? Because if this is really what it was about, and this is terrible, right? I think that's part of next time. Warn me what stories I'm saying. It's not about gay or straight. Russia is running out of guys and they're just finding reasons to come raid clubs find people and compulsorily draft Hey, that's bad. Hey, how dare you guys be around a bunch of guys? Go join the military. There's only guys in foxholes Partly right but there's more to this story. So I'm in Russia this weekend and there I am in a club And next thing you know in the military with my buddies. I'm having a good time. Boom, bang, bang.
Starting point is 01:56:45 These guys show up. I'm just trying to have a good time. But the reality is this in Russia, it's a, it's, it's Putin's been in power 25 years and a year ago he put into motion via the Russia Supreme court, a decision to classify the LGBTQ movement as an extremist organization. 23, right? Yeah. So he's, his whole emphasis has been on traditional family values, having more kids, making Russia great again. We understand that concept. So, but he's labeling the movement, the organization of this LGBT and extremist organization. The best example I can give is when someone says, Hey, black lives matter. It's like, yeah, okay, cool. I'm with you. All lives matter. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:28 But the actual organization BLM turned out to be a Marxist sham that was siphoning money from people. So essentially what he's doing is cracking down on the LGBT movement, but in the form of what you're just rating gay clubs. So I don't know. This is the whole problem with Russia is that are they a democracy? Are they a dictator, a dictatorship? Are they authoritarian? You know, who knows what's going on there? It's like, it reminds me of, so that's what's going on. If you're gay in Russia, boom, you're just getting cracked down. Imagine being a gay in Gaza. Good luck with that buddy. Have fun holding your sign out here in America. We know what's going to happen to the gay clubs in Gaza.
Starting point is 01:58:05 Go on a march in Gaza and declare pride month and find out it's just gonna be pride day so you're bonked on the head. From a tactical standpoint though if you think about it from tactics it is harder to shoot because gay guys walk really like jeez like it's hard to shoot you know I mean if he's just like dancing it'll be hard to you can't shoot that guy he's all flamboyant he's running around I think it's a good tactic move. What do you think? I mean, you're thinking about it from having been- I'm thinking I was in the military. A straight guy walks like this. A gay guy's like,
Starting point is 01:58:32 yes, you can aim and shoot that guy. He's dancing. He's frolicking. Are you a tank or just happy to see me? I know that we're kind of having fun with this and that's funny, but imagine just, you're just a regular gay guy in Russia trying to live your life. How about being a regular and you go to jail because you go to a bar? It's actually overlaid. Left pack go to the next story. How about being parents of a 22 year old man who's now been drafted and being sent to an endless war? Tom, we're gonna be okay. I'm not gonna wear that uniform. It's gonna be okay. It's gonna be okay. Let's go to the next story here. So Musk, Bernie Sanders admits Elon Musk is right
Starting point is 01:59:08 and backs Doge if it makes major cuts in the department. Bernie Sanders sides with Elon Musk, okay? Think about that. So apparently you can teach an old Doge new tricks. Lefty Senator Bernie Sanders turned ahead Sunday with his support for President Donald Trump's planned new doge, providing it takes aim at the Pentagon's cushy budget. Elon Musk is bright. The Pentagon, with a budget of $886 billion, just filled its seventh audit in a row, it's lost track
Starting point is 01:59:48 of billions. Last year, only 13 senators voted against the military industrial complex and a defense budget full of waste and fraud. This must change. And this is the story that's getting them to get closer. Talking about this taking place, last month Doge, a Department of Defense announced that it had filled its seven independent audit in a row, which has troubled both Republicans and Democrats.
Starting point is 02:00:13 The department has been authorized to receive $824 billion in government money during 2024 fiscal year. Tom, thoughts on this? You know what? This is Bernie Sanders not coming to his senses. He's been against kind of excessive government spending. He's been all over this. And this is Bernie Sanders saying, you know what?
Starting point is 02:00:33 What you guys are doing is right. It's also, I think, interested what you think, Vinny, it's the establishment. It's guess what? Now you have three people pointed at the same establishment. That's just full of bribes Criminality and things that are going on in defense spending Tom how much it is how much it is is? Bernie how old is Bernie Sanders right now? 73 no dude gotta be 80 at this really he's old he's 80 192
Starting point is 02:01:03 So Bernie's 83 Bernie's 83 years old okay by the way to be fair 80 at this point. Really? Yeah, he's old. He's 80. 192. 83! 73! Bernie's 83 years old, okay? By the way, to be fair, he looks healthy for 83 years old. He doesn't give me 83 year old vibe. I'm just being, I'm not being disrespectful. He's 70s, but he's not really falling down the other side.
Starting point is 02:01:17 Yeah, I mean he's walking, he walks better than Biden does. Can you type in a video, Bernie Sanders walking? I want to see how Bernie Sanders walks. And Bernie Sanders walking. Oh want to see how Bernie Sanders walks and Bernie Sanders walking Let's see how Bernie walks watch this Sunday night, US Senator and former presidential candidate Bernie Sanders walks in the picket line with Teamsters local 283. When is this, Rob? I love the support.
Starting point is 02:01:50 This was this year because everybody has Paris Waltz shirts. He doesn't look like he walks like it. Biden walks, he walks better than Biden and Biden's 81. Yeah. Okay, if they were to walk in a walk-in competition, which who knows, Jake Pockett pulled it off to put these guys go against each other for 10 million bucks. If they were to walk, I think Biden loses to Sanders. For sure.
Starting point is 02:02:10 So how much of this is that Sanders is getting to an age where he's like, hey man, you know, this is a legacy move here. I'm going to get closer to these guys. These guys, the American people have agreed with them more than our policies, I'm going to get closer and I know this is coming and he's agreeing or how much of this is the horseshoe where the guys on both sides are kind of like, hey, this is the area we all agree with. I'm anti-establishment. Let's just say he's an anti-establishment guy, although he went and supported Kamala
Starting point is 02:02:42 Harris, which is a form of being an establishment guy. But how much of he think is that? How much of it is? I just think Elon's smarter and he's making a better choice than the other side is. I'll tell you what's going on. I think there's, if there's one thing that Bernie Sanders has not been known for, Bernie Mack, there's one thing that Bernie Sanders has not been known for. It's-
Starting point is 02:03:02 Two, five, six, zero, low, come help me babysit these moths. I'm a socialist. I can't believe I brought up Bernie Mack instead of Bernie Sanders has not been known for. Two, four, six years. Lowes come healthy, babysitters muff. I'm a socialist. I can't believe I brought up Bernie Macalester. I combed my hair with a balloon. The millionaires and the millionaires. If there's one thing he's not known for, it's doing math. This is the guy that proposed a Green New Deal, Medicare for All, Medicaid for All, which is basically adding trillions of dollars to the deficit. There's one thing that Bernie can't get behind is stop spending money on the military industrial complex that just continually. So there you go, Tom, right there. Come on
Starting point is 02:03:30 and leave it guys. So I actually got to give Bernie Sanders a little bit of credit for basically acknowledging what we all understand. She's that Holy moly. We just got bombed on here. I thought it was the end of the world. Sorry. Is that the, the government is not good at doing math and paying its bills. Our income, you know, what the United States government took in from 2023. I don't think we have the federal budget for 2024. The results yet 2023 income, $5 trillion. What were our expenses? 6.7 trillion dollars were $1.7 trillion in the negative in the blackout here. So if it comes down to cutting social security, Medicare, Medicaid, whatever it needs to be done, whether
Starting point is 02:04:11 it's the military industrial conflicts of the U S defense, something's got to give to basically get rid of, to get this budget back on track. So you got to give Bernie a little bit, a little credit for basically acknowledging that yes, Vivek and Elon Musk are going to come in and basically clean house. Now here's the task. They said that they're going to cut $2 trillion worth of waste, cut the fat, trim the expenses, eliminate the, eliminate the needless unnecessary spending. How long is that going to take? Is that in a year? Is that in four years? Because Trump's administration is only four years. So what's going to happen because Doge is not a real government department. They just made it up.
Starting point is 02:04:49 Yeah, good. The department of government efficiency. It's not like that's a part of government already. They're coming in or trying to clean house. So we're going to see what happens here. But at the end of the day, all the budgets have to go through the CBO, the congressional budget office. So we're going to see what actually gets cut, but respect to Bernie for basically understanding that drastic changes need to be made. I actually like this, to be honest with you. I actually like seeing this. I like seeing moments like this.
Starting point is 02:05:13 And by the way, one final thoughts I'll say here about Trump before we wrap up. You know what's the great thing about power and where you realize you know someone's true character is the following is when you have the power to destroy someone's life and you don't vice versa you have the power to destroy someone's life and you do watch this who had power the last four years biden department of justice fbi did they try to destroy Trump's life thousand percent in what way? God bless you. God bless you. God bless you. What what was good with lawfare with women with oh, no It's basically lawfare. That was what they use Yeah, the whole media was all on the other stuff
Starting point is 02:05:59 But they try to destroy his life and and then he also got shot in the head Which if you want to say they're either a part of it or they did it so that's a whole different situation. But the point is they used power, right, the DOJ's power to destroy the man's life. Yes. And they were supposed to be the unifier party. Biden was. He's supposed to be the unifier. He's supposed to bring everybody together. Now riddle me this, okay, to all the people that are like this guy's gonna be the dictator. Imagine if the guy who is supposed to do what they did to him, he takes office and he doesn't do that. Imagine he
Starting point is 02:06:40 becomes a guy that he invites Justin Trudeau to Mar-a-Lago and they have dinner to get everybody smiling and then Justin says, rumor has it, Peter Ducey reported on this. He said, Justin told the president, he says, hey, this is it, Rob? Wait a sec, this is hilarious. And tonight we're getting some new details about that Trump-Trudeau dinner from two people who were at the table. We are told that when Trudeau told President-elect Trump that new tariffs would kill the Canadian economy, Trump joked to him that if Canada can't survive without
Starting point is 02:07:11 ripping off the US to the tune of $100 billion a year, then maybe Canada should become the 51st state and Trudeau could become its governor. Pause. By the way, see you gotta love him for that. Funny. He'll talk shit to your face. I guarantee Justin laughed. Look at the smile on his face. That's not a fake laugh.
Starting point is 02:07:34 That's a laugh, a smile of I'm enjoying my company with this freaking guy I'm supposed to hate. Okay? So you're, he could, imagine, flip this. Flip. Biden wins, okay? And they have a Justin Trudeau, except it's Trump, it's a conservative. Okay? Do you think a Biden-winning, they'll invite DeSantis to dinner and, you know, break bread and have this kind of conversation? Okay. So let me tell you, the guy that everybody's saying the fear porn saying he's going to
Starting point is 02:08:08 be the dictator, the divider, all that stuff, everybody who's supposed to be his enemy is now taking sides with him. Why are they doing that? Why are they coming to Mar-a-Lago? Why are they coming and having dinner with him? Why is Mar-a-Lago a party every single night when everybody comes in there together where it's becoming a new White House? Mar-a-Lago is the new White House, okay?
Starting point is 02:08:25 Why is that happening? Imagine if he, with all the power right now he has, Congress, Senate, all the new appointments, everybody he puts in there, instead of being able to destroy all of these people's lives, he does the accountability part, which needs to be in place, and then finds a way to finish off his legacy as a unifier. Imagine that. Sick. Do you know how confusing that would be?
Starting point is 02:08:52 Let me put it to you this way. In about 20 years, we're going to go to the movies, and we're going to watch a movie of Donald Trump, played by somebody and as somebody today is probably in their 40s and 50s they'll be in their 60s and 70s and the actor is going to have to play a whole different slew of ages so they're going to have to get a few different things that they'll do and you're going to sit there in 20 years in 2044 and he may be around still at that time you know he looks super healthy but in 20-30 years we'll be at the movies and we'll sit there with our kids who will be in their 30s 20s 40s and they're gonna say this guy you guys really lived
Starting point is 02:09:41 through the time where this guy was a president? We did. Really? How was it like that? How was it like mom? Well, let me tell you, this is really who he was. This is really what he did. Wow. So he went from being the guy that they painted to be Saul to Paul. He went from being this guy that was a guy that was brutal and all these other guys and all that stuff They did to him and he still came back in unified America. Yes. Why did he do that one because he's very competitive he's got pride in his name and his ability to deliver and his reputation and At the same time he also loves his country called the United States of America and as much as people hate saying it Imagine being forced to say, this guy united us.
Starting point is 02:10:29 Imagine you in four years, when his term is done with and he's moving out, everybody from all those media platforms that said all this stuff about him, they have to say, here is the man who united America. The last person we thought that could do this. This guy has a shot. In the book, Barbarians to Bureaucrats,
Starting point is 02:10:52 Barbarians to Bureaucrats, this is a historic moment. If you go to the chart at the images, Rob, just go back and go to images. In this book, he talks about, there is, actually go to the bottom left one, you see right there bottom left, bottom left, no no, bottom left, right there, yeah, zoom in a little bit on that one. He talks about how there's a prophet, that's George Washington, founding fathers. Then he talks about the barbarians, that's the guys that came in and
Starting point is 02:11:20 they fought for America, the generals, the the military leaders Washington is still part of it Then you got the builders and explorers the Carnegie's the Vanderbilt the Musks the Franklin's The chase all these guys that built incredible businesses then the administrators showed up 1906 taxes, okay We should Federal Reserve all this bullshit stuff that showed up right ministry then bureaucrats showed up the Obamas the Carters the kiss all these other guys the aristocrats all those guys showed up and you know where we are right now It's exactly where we are the McConnell's all those guys the shifts all those guys
Starting point is 02:12:01 And you know who's the only person that can save a company or an organization going through this life cycle? A synergist. Trump has the opportunity to be a synergist. He does that, forget about it. I'm telling you, forget about it. That's the moment we're in today, and I'll finish on that. That this is a guy that has all the power right now to destroy people's lives.
Starting point is 02:12:23 Imagine if he doesn't do it. And he's the guy that everybody thinks will. Anyways, gang, if you're still crazy enough to be with us, we appreciate you. This doesn't feel like work to us. We love doing this, it's a lot of fun. Yesterday I was talking to the guys, we had a big executive strategy session,
Starting point is 02:12:41 the best one we've ever had so far. We started early and we finished late. And it ended with some interesting phone calls about some polls that Tom, but that's a different story. Maybe we'll talk about. Different polls. Yeah, Tom and polls. You gotta be careful when you're asking for advice
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Starting point is 02:14:13 Having said that, God bless everybody, we got a couple podcasts that's gonna be coming out. I think we have another Baldwin brother that's about to come down here to do another podcast with us. And then we'll do another, are we doing live again this Thursday or no? Friday we'll be live, home team podcast, and then we'll have another are we doing live again this Thursday or no Friday will be live on home team podcast and then we'll have Daniel
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