PBD Podcast - Brian Cole BUSTED, Halle Berry NUKES Newsom + Candace REJECTS TPUSA Challenge | PBD Podcast | Ep. 695

Episode Date: December 5, 2025

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down January 6th pipe bomb suspect Brian Cole’s arrest, Halle Berry’s explosive comments blasting Gavin Newsom, and Candace... Owens’ public response after being challenged by Turning Point USA.------🧢 LIMITED EDITION CHRISTMAS FLANNEL SNAPBACK: https://bit.ly/48SQWqhⓂ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Did you ever think you would make it? I said I'm supposed to take sweet victory. I know this life's meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever size. Right here. You are a one of one?
Starting point is 00:00:18 My son's drive there. I don't think I've ever said this before. La La La. Can you sing it already or no? La la la la la la la la la la. Lai, la, la, ma'eraiasanum. How we're on. Oh, we're on.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Sorry, Armenians. Wake up, everybody. On or not, I'm singing. Tom went there already. I love it. That's not funny, Tom. Because this was Armenian. I don't know what that has to do with Armenians.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Focus on Tom's face turning red real quick, please. Lavosh. Hey, I like to apologize for the Armenians. Look at the Hawaii. All right. Here we go. Guys, this is what we deal with every day. But if you think this is with the camera on, imagine how bad it is with the camera off. We have like six HR people sitting here right now. Every single time we do these podcasts. Apparently they do nothing, no. They just said. Yeah. Okay. So Trump promises largest tax refund season ever for Americans coming in 2026. Trump warned U.S. may launch land operations inside Venezuela very soon, says regime. Team sent killers to America. We got a bunch of clips with the pipe bomber. Vinny's got a video he wants to show me that I haven't seen yet.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Apparently this white man, according to Jake Tapper, that I got to see this what this white man looks like. You have to emphasize the hu. He's what. His white. He's white. He's white boy magot. Quatt supremacist.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Scott Bessent blasts New York Times at their event. Hallie Berry. Hallie Barry. It wasn't Newsom also speaking at the same event? Newsom was there. Mr. Beas was there. Barry goes after Newsom, her governor, and she says, but at least he's not going to be governor for too long, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:07 and he will definitely not be a president with the way he's going with women and menopause. And you got to see this clip. It's fascinating. She had a good point about a good program, too. Yeah. Paranoid Maduro sleeps in different beds, changes phones, report. Wouldn't you? I mean, are they talking like he's sleeping around?
Starting point is 00:02:24 He's saying that he's like for safety. Yeah. Not like he's going. It could be both. You never know. No, no, I mean, listen, when you hear stories like, He's a playboy on the run. Besson says Trump administration will be able to replace tariff, even if it loses a Supreme Court decision.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I want to hear about that. President Trump issues a new warning on looming Supreme Court decision. If they keep talking about it, that means they're not for sure certain that this is going to get done. That's scary, guys. They just got one decision yesterday. It could be today. It could be tomorrow, could be Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:02:58 want U.S. to lead globally, but doubt military can win major wars overseas survey fines. Texas Muslim city rebrands with unthreatening new name. Steve Hilton, California governor candidate, launches tip line to expose fraud over a billion dollars Minnesota debacle. I will see. I mean, wait until you create that tip line for California, what that's going to look like. We called it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Police arrest suspect in D.C. Pipon will talk about that. Shapiro. Josh Shapiro, blast Kamala Harris, book claims about her utter bullshit in fiery interview response. I mean, hold it together, Josh. You may run for office one day. Is he running against her next time? Barack Obama suggests military resistance pushing back on politicization of the Justice Department. Here we go again. Ben Stiller is back, folks. And he said, stop calling him garbage. He was so upset on what happened. And we'll definitely talk about that. GOP representative Luna files
Starting point is 00:04:01 discharge petition to force a vote to ban members of Congress from stock trading. Who's the other lady? The one that you like a lot who was on Pierce Morgan and about Muslims. They went back and forth. Oh, my God. She was on fire. Her filter was She doesn't give a... She's your type, though. That's your type.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Oh, yeah. Do you want me to hook you up? Dangerous. But wait, you don't realize if you're with a girl like that, your security has to have their security to watch them. Oh, if anybody mess with you, you would say, hey, I'm going to tell her you're messing with you.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Yeah, yeah, she's going to go nuts. Yeah, you go to. Mamdani effect, wealthy New Yorkers show renewed interest in Miami's billionaire beach. Renewed interest? Yeah, renewed interest. How Palantir shifted course to play key role in ice deportation, and then home prices fall in almost a quarter of U.S. cities in 2026,
Starting point is 00:04:49 and Warren new forecast, Daily Mail report will show that to you. Florida City heating up with global demand. And then turning point, Break silence on Candace Owens' as wild Charlie Kirk assassination claims daily mail. CNN bets on wager platform Kalshi striking an exclusive partnership to inject odds making into coverage. And then we got a couple stories in the middle of the night that broke. Nick Fuentes had some things to say about Candice.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Is that the one? Yeah, calls at Candace Owens Times of India. All right. And then literally run out of a bounce down 15. Elhan Omar calls Trump-supported might attack Somalis. So Somalis should be worried about MAGA, apparently. And brushes off the fraud scandal.
Starting point is 00:05:37 What happened with a billion dollars? Not a big deal. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. Yeah, yeah, it's just a billion dollars. And then what we know about the Brian Cole, DOJ releases photo of alleged D.C. pipe bomb. And we've got a couple of the stories here that we'll get into.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I didn't cover what happened on Ritz on Wednesday, so I will today. and aside from that, we have to also talk about what happened when Eddie, the guy who called us about trying to put a podcast together with Sam Shimon. And then this guy named Uthman jumps on the call and then we see
Starting point is 00:06:10 a video and we call Eddie we're like, what was this? So we have to address that as well because that manipulation is what I told that is I don't like to deal with. We have to address it because there was a clip saying that we set something. We'll show the clip as well so you guys can can you send that clip to Rob so Rob can get that as well. Take news, Middle East version. It's really bad, buddy.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Audio is horrible, and the music is so loud. Whoever edited that, maybe did it on purpose. Anyways, guys, let me tell you what we're doing here today. It's a special day today. Here's why. Yesterday, we gave away almost 500 trees, Christmas trees. I was outside, till God, we started at 3 o'clock, till about 8, 9 o'clock. We're giving away trees.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Robbie, can play this clip here. It was awesome. We even had a Santa Claus. We were trying to figure out whether he was drinking a little bit too much or what he was up to. He was a bad Santa. And a charming elf. But it was a great, great experience. People coming up, taking pictures, talking.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Our kids were there. Family showed up. We were having great conversations with the folks that came out. It was the most trees we've given now that we're doing this every year. It's been an incredible tradition. Next year's going to be even sicker and crazy. And I was there with one of my helpers on. The guy on the left kind of looks like Vinnie.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Do you know what somebody said to me? Some guy hugs me and goes, man, I didn't know that you were that short. And I was like, that wasn't a good moment. Because I'm not wearing any shoes. Because you realize I'm wearing an elf shoe. He didn't say that. Yeah, I did. Did you smack him up?
Starting point is 00:07:27 I was like, you know, but let me tell you. You can't hit the mirror of a manner. As bad as that is, as bad as that is, let me tell you what Kamala said about Christmas. Rob, if you want to play this. She loves it? She has to be pro-Christmas. Here's what she said about Christmas,
Starting point is 00:07:42 if you want to go back a little bit. I just want you to see this, folks. I don't know about you. For me, Christmas, the best time of the year. Okay, the best time. 10% of me still wants to believe that Santa Claus is real, No, I'm 47 years old. There's nothing like it.
Starting point is 00:07:57 So whenever I hear politicians get up and talk like this about Christmas, it does something to me. Tell me how you feel about this. Go ahead, Rob. And when we all sing happy tunes and sing Merry Christmas and wish each other Merry Christmas, these children are not going to have a Merry Christmas. How dare we speak Merry Christmas? Oh, no. How dare we?
Starting point is 00:08:20 She's so angry. Do you have the other clip I give you, Rob? The other one that I give you. Listen, there's another one that I like how the president responds to this about Christmas, because what do you mean how dare we say Merry Christmas? By the way, how many guys go in the comments section and just say Merry Christmas? Go say Merry Christmas and talking about you can't say Merry Christmas. What's wrong with you to say something like that?
Starting point is 00:08:43 But I like how the president responded to it. Here's how we responded to it when she said, how dare we say Merry Christmas. Go ahead, Rob. Dare we speak Merry Christmas. The music attitude. How dare we? Watch this. Well, guess what?
Starting point is 00:08:54 We're saying, Merry Christmas again. Christmas. It's almost as good as the other video that we're viral. It's the best, man. Listen. I'm at the border. So, don't come. So here's what we're doing. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Don't do that. Why are you doing that at this time? We're talking Christmas. You're telling a joke like that. It's not a joke. That's just what there was an actual video that he did. What does that have to do with this right now? He said, don't come across the border.
Starting point is 00:09:17 And then he said what? I don't know what he said. That's the... You think this is the right time to put something like this? He said it. He said it. I understand that. I understand that what does that have to do?
Starting point is 00:09:25 We're talking about Christmas right now, guy. Okay, go ahead. You're so funny. Like, these are two complete separate conversations. Okay. You are, this guy is so funny at him. This is why sometimes with Adam, we've got to zip him to say the comments that he makes at the wrong time.
Starting point is 00:09:37 We're trying our best. You are so funny at him. Anyways, let me get back to Christmas folks that we're talking about here. So here's what we're doing. Every year at this time, intentionally we do this. Intentionally, because we're proud to say Merry Christmas. We want to say it forever, okay? There's something special about what happens during Christmas.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Families, the values, the principles, the stories, the moments that we have together. It's a very, very special moment that we have together. For us, I look forward to what we do together. So, this year for Merry Christmas, the hat we announced last year sold 3,000 like this within a couple days. This year, we're doing a limited edition one for today, Rob, if you want to show this up there. This is the limited edition Merry Christmas hat, numbered out of 250. On this side, it says future looks bright. These will go in no time, by the way.
Starting point is 00:10:28 If you're somebody that's proud to say Merry Christmas comfortably, place an order, get this for somebody that's also proud to say Merry Christmas. This could make for a very, very good Christmas gift. And anybody that places an order, I believe this is for the first 100, if I'm not mistaken, Rob. Anybody that places an order gets a mug that says Future Looks Bright and Merry Christmas. And on this side, you get an ornament as well that says Merry Christmas. The Future Looks Bright Edition, sent your way.
Starting point is 00:10:58 So go to vTmerch.com, place and order. Merry Christmas hat coming your way. All right. Having said that, let's get right into it. Rob, what was our first story? Our first story that we have that the audience wants to talk about. Do you want to go to the pipe bomber? What do you want to go to?
Starting point is 00:11:13 Pipe bomber would be good. All right. So let's go to the pipe bomber. Rob, what page is that story on? Tell me to this. story we're on on the pipe bomber one that is page 10 page 10 okay here we go page 10 police arrest suspect in dc pipe bomb case after five year investigation that they've been talking about so remember when this happened the timing of it right so people have forgotten about it you know
Starting point is 00:11:42 some haven't forgotten about it some have some have kind of moved on because we've had so many different stories that we have going on here a suspect who allegedly planted pipe bomb blocks from U.S. Capitol on January 5th, 2021 is now federal custody after a nearly five-year investigation. Law enforcement sources told Fox News Digital on Thursday,
Starting point is 00:12:03 video footage released by the FBI showed an unidentified person placing the pipe bombs near two headquarters more than 16 hours before law enforcement found them. The suspect was seen wearing a gray hoodie Nike AirMax SpeedTurf sneakers, a mask, glasses, and gloves,
Starting point is 00:12:20 but the person's identity had long been unknown. The initial investigation had shown in under two months by the end of February 2020, a possible result of credible leads. Drying up at the time, according to a congressional report, authorities discovered the two-pipe bombs near the Republican and Democrat National Committee headquarters around the same time that thousands of protesters,
Starting point is 00:12:43 a few blocks away, began to dissent on the Capitol over 2020 elections. The bombs were described as visible and could have exploded at any time, according to the FBI. The suspect arrest comes after a renewed push by the FBI to solve the case, including the release of new video footage and a $500,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person responsible. Go ahead, Rob. This was the work of multiple agencies working together.
Starting point is 00:13:11 This morning's operation was carried out safely and successfully. We know that there are so many issues when you're issuing search warrant. Warrants, dangerous things can happen, and this was carried out safely and securely thanks to all of the people standing around me. They have worked tirelessly on this. Today's arrest happened because the Trump administration has made this case a priority. The total lack of movement on this case in our nation's capital undermined the public trust of our enforcement agencies. This cold case languished for four years until Director Patel, and Deputy Director Bonjino came to the FBI.
Starting point is 00:13:54 The FBI, along with U.S. Attorney Piro, and all of our prosecutors have worked tirelessly for months sifting through evidence that had been sitting at the FBI with the Biden administration for four long years. Let me be clear. There was no new tip. There was no new witness. So they've done this entire time. Of course they did. And they didn't want to report it.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Of course not. So what clip do you want to show me? with a white man. Okay, so, guys, we talked about this yesterday, Pat, with our friend that was here yesterday. Guys, the entire movement of why I think America started waking up is the moment that Jim Acosta was talking crap to the president in 2016, and he said, I'm not going to give you any questions.
Starting point is 00:14:37 You're fake news. And that moment, you'd think CNN would realize. After all the firing, Pat, after losing all the money, Jake Tapper, another guy who acted like he didn't know about Biden's mental decline. writes the book, blaming everybody. You can't make this up. I have to check this five times and make sure it was an AI.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Look at him describing the guy, Brian Cole Jr., as what? Go ahead, Rob. This is a joke. Welcome to the lead. I'm Jake Tapper. After nearly five years of investigation, the FBI finally announced
Starting point is 00:15:05 that they had arrested a suspect, a suspect accused of planting pipe bombs near the Republican and Democratic National Committee headquarters the night before the January 6th, 2021 Capitol attack. Brian Cole, Jr., A 30-year-old white man from the D.C. Suburbs is charged with transporting an explosive... No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:15:25 No, it's not. This is not AI-edited. By means of explosion. Stop. White guy right there. Go back again. Go back again, like when he says that. Go back a little bit.
Starting point is 00:15:34 No, two, yeah, five seconds right there. Go ahead. Attack. Brian Cole, Jr. A 30-year-old white man from the D.C. suburbs is charged with transporting an explosive device in interstate commerce and with malicious destruction. That's him. of explosions seen and observed local
Starting point is 00:15:50 and federal law enforcement outside his home. Now, let me just give you a little backstory about this. And again, they're saying it is who he is. I don't know how tall this guy is, the Brian Cole, but the videos, Pat, if you see it, it's a 5-7. That's why it looked kind of weird, but I don't know how tall this guy
Starting point is 00:16:06 is, what we're going to find out, but his dad owned statewide bonding Inc. Virginia-based immigration bail bond company. Think about this. The family business, they were built on freeing illegal immigrants from ICE custody and that same business sued the prior administration's DHS in 2019 over discrimination. Okay? And think about this. This makes sense, if this is him, why they held it for four years.
Starting point is 00:16:31 He's a young black kid guy who was anti-Trump. He sued Trump. He sued ICE. He sued the DHS. He pushed radical justice causes and worked at the family bond place. And think about it. They didn't lose him, Tom. They had receipts. They had his license plate. number. They had phone data. They had the footage. They knew exactly who he was. They could have exposed him. But the narrative was, let's put something to distract all law enforcement. Because, Pat, because of this, all law enforcement was diverted from January 6th, and they were worrying about this guy. They were worrying about this white supremacist, white guy from the suburbs, as Jake Tapper says it, and it was all on purpose, okay? And I genuinely, this is my opinion.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Christopher Ray, who was in charge of the FBI, Tommy, needs to be investigated, just like Jim Comey, all right? He had 13% of the FBI going after January 6 cases. That's 5,000 out of 38,000 people hunting grandmothers, grandfathers, people that weren't even in Washington that day. Including over, getting over petabytes of information where they help identify people who are wearing winter gear and covered up by the way they walked and their anticipated height. So they took that action of people that were on the thing. But they had all sorts of street footage and they couldn't find this guy for five years. Yeah. For five years
Starting point is 00:17:50 and then Cash... I just want to make sure I understood. No, yo, you get it. And then it's weird that they come in and they find him like that. It's the narrative. January 6th was the setup from the beginning. And if you think about it, the pipe bombs didn't go off because then they know they'd be in a world of crap. But look at how this FBI.
Starting point is 00:18:06 And I want people to understand. Cash Patel, Pan Bondi, all Dan Bonji and all these people. Good job. They're doing something. We have criticized them in the past. But think about all the agents, Tom, that are still in the FBI. that still have that hate, that still would do the color revolution that we keep talking about. Just because they're in charge doesn't mean anything. Those people are still involved, just like the Lisa Pages, just like the freaking Peter's truck.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Just like five stories here you're covering it. First, you have the CNN. By the way, this is CNN's habit, Pat. Remember George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, and George Zimmerman, you know the two networks that took the most heat for calling him a white Hispanic? Do you remember that? George Zimmerman, the white Hispanic, that gunned down. Trayvon Martin. No, they didn't wrestle on the ground. He wasn't trying to get him. He wasn't shot that way. He gunned him down. Right. And George Zimmerman was a white Hispanic. And CNN, ladies and gentlemen, CNN, Jake Tapper and NBC took the most hit for using, which one coined it uncertain, but they both used it to death. And now they're using this. And by the way, do you know who's responsible for the Ukraine war? A white Russian named Vladimir Putin. Yeah. No, no, it's coming, right? Everything's quite fair. They're showing you what they're going to do.
Starting point is 00:19:16 That's one story Now he have the cover up Now he have petabytes of information But they choose not to look at it until now And then they finally look at this guy This is incredible And you know why If you think about it guys
Starting point is 00:19:27 Trump wasn't supposed to win Their plan Their entire plan This wasn't supposed to come to pass Their plan was jail him Destroy him That didn't work Shoot him in the freaking head
Starting point is 00:19:39 Didn't work because they hire people That have shitty aim And we are where we are And I mean Tom I get it because I'm impatient I have to work on my patients. I want it faster. I have the hope.
Starting point is 00:19:49 I have the faith. But come on. Like the Comey and Tish James, they just got their cases, what, kind of dismissed, but they're going to keep going back after them. Because I'm telling you. There was another dismissal yesterday.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Yeah, this is huge. This is huge and it exposes them. This investigation took five years. No, Adam. Vincent. Well, for them, for Castro, Tell, less than a year. Less than a year to find a guy that they buried the story.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Because you're tracking the story a little bit more than me. Are you saying that under the Biden administration, they just, this guy was just walking around. They did nothing. Nothing. Adam, nothing. They knew where he was. My opinion, it's, you can't be that stupid. Adam, you can't be that stupid. They lost the case on November 10th, 2020. They lost the case. This is humiliation for the FBI. We'll put the files in Biden's garage. Even he'll forget about it. They found the pipe bombs next to the RNC and the DNC. So this guy wasn't, it was just so in chaos. It wasn't exactly aligned with But here's the thing. What was, what was his motive? To
Starting point is 00:20:45 distract, Adam, when you have bombs in Washington, you know how many cops and everybody's distracted looking that way so that the January 6th mayhem can go exactly the way that they wanted and Nancy Pelosi could say, I don't want the National Guard. It's all, guys, and for how many years, it's been five years and it was, oh my God, the biggest threat to democracy. We even had that maniac. Who was the guy? Steve Schmidt? Steve Schmidt. Oh, you're boring? January 6 was worse than 9-11. Shut up. That's the narrative that they want. wanted to push with the Lincoln Project. This is a joke. It was a joke. They provoked those people and this is where we are today. This sort of has intel, sniffs of intel, doesn't it? The
Starting point is 00:21:25 pipe bombs are put at two locations, number one. Number two, they said, well, those pipe bombs were viable. It was real explosives? It could have been done. And they won't tell us, though, was there a timer in it? Was the timer not set properly? Was this appear to be professionally designed? The FBI, believe it or not, has a database on all the types of bombs that are used because they know which groups circulate documents to each other is on the how-toes. There's how-toes out there among these groups. And I was reading last night that says, the FBI needs to come out and tell us, what was the design of the bombs?
Starting point is 00:21:56 What do you suspect was the source because they can tell you, oh, those are Middle East guys did it that way. These guys do it that way. All they say, no, they were viable bombs, but they didn't go off. Why didn't they go off? And your professional bomb expert opinion. Tom, those are important details. I just want to understand one thing.
Starting point is 00:22:10 What was his motive? Why is he doing this? Who was paying him? What was his motivation? Adam. What is he looking to do? What team is he on? That's a great question. That to me is the first question. But if you think about it, if you have to assume, why would he be on the Republican? He's anti-Trump, anti-this, loves Antifa or whatever the hell, all these facts.
Starting point is 00:22:27 This is the, I'm telling you right now, you've got to give them credit. They are so good because it almost worked. By the way, Rob, what's the story about? If it does work, Kamala Harris was by the DNC. Is that the story if you want to maybe tell us a little bit about that? Yeah. In fact, she was reportedly at the. DNC headquarters the morning of January 6th, apparently she was in the vicinity of where if these explosive devices had gone off, she would have been injured or worse. They actually asked Pam Bondi about that yesterday because you never hear the vice president
Starting point is 00:23:00 elect was almost assassinated in Washington, D.C. on January 6th, you never hear that narrative, but it almost happened. Pam Bondi was asked about that yesterday. Oh, this is it? Yep. Go for it. Any theory on why Kamala Harris has never mentioned coming within 20 feet of being assassinated? and any news on why her Secret Service team took so long to find this bomb at the DNC? No, but what I will tell you is that evidence has been sitting there collecting dust. This wasn't a new tip. It wasn't some new evidence. It was the hard work of President Trump's administration. Deputy Director Bongino and Director Patel. I watched them from day one come in here and say,
Starting point is 00:23:42 we are going to solve this crime. And they did working hand in hand with U.S. Attorney Piro and all of our great attorneys. And I hope during the investigation, he actually has the Brian guy to say, who did it, who told you? Because if you really think about it, the insurrection act that they were going to try to use
Starting point is 00:24:01 and not let the president run again, this was the main thing that put it over the hump. Pat, like you guys had white supremac pipe bombs? Oh, he can't be the president. And look at how... If the Biden administration knew about it, Pat. Wouldn't they have, like, invented phrases like, insurrectionists and potential assassins? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Wouldn't they have, like, invented that and tagged that onto it if there was, like, a half-a-block possibility that Kamala could have been injured or worse? What I want to know is, okay, so... That seems odd to me. So now that they're showing us that we know who this white man was, okay, that did what he did. Cracker. Okay, so now tell us why he did that, okay? Take it a step ahead and tell us why he did that to the American American. people can find out because if this was sitting there
Starting point is 00:24:44 find out have you interviewed him is he still around by the way is he dead is he alive is he alive is the rest of taking into custody okay he's in custody oh he's in custody the whole thing Patrick Zed bet too not shot look at the look he's not he lives in a cul-de-sac yeah you live in a cul-de-sac bro you're doing well so you got to find out why he did it who he's connected to messages emails exchanges I will you can find you should be able to find out you know even the best criminals out there You should be able to find out what the motive behind what they were doing. Anyways, I want to get to the next story with this.
Starting point is 00:25:16 If you want to give you a final thought, to go to next story. Don't look now, but it seems like the Trump administration, all these guys, are very much aligned and unified. Epstein thing aside, we're to Cash Patel and Pam Bondi and Dan Bonino. We're all catching beef. Oh, my God, what's going on? Seems like everybody's falling in line right now. That's all I'm saying. Unified on this topic?
Starting point is 00:25:34 Just in general. It seems like they're a little bit more unified. I don't know. Then the gaslighting that was going on. I don't think so. I don't think so. You don't think so? They're staying there together.
Starting point is 00:25:44 No, no, no, no. Well, that's the cash. Who is aligned? The Bongino. Trump administration. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. On this issue, sure. And by the way, to be honest with you, I think Bondi is trying to keep her job.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Okay. I think that's what she's trying to do. You know, Bondi's trying to keep her job, and she has to have some victories. And there's been a lot of, you know, fumbles and the way things were handled, a lot of mishandling going on there. And they're trying to. redo and reframe the reputation and come out and get some stuff out there and this is a good beginning
Starting point is 00:26:17 of what things could take place. Hopefully if they continue going. Anyways, all right, let's go to the next door here. Next door I want to get to Scott Besson at a New York Times event himself and Alex Karp from Palantir and Halliberry. But let's first start off with Scott Besson.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Scott Besson is being interviewed and they're talking about a bunch of different things and then all of a sudden he blasted New York Times at their own event over the coverage of Trump's health. Go ahead, Rob. You had what was the greatest, one of the greatest scandals of all time that the coverage of the Biden administration,
Starting point is 00:26:55 Joe Biden's diminished capacity and the cover-up. And that's why it's probably fair to raise these questions. Where was in New York time? We just had a three-hour cabinet meeting yesterday, Andrew. For 10 months, the Biden administration did not have a cabinet meeting. How are you going to invoke the 25th Amendment if the cabinet secretaries never see the president, which they didn't.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And by the way, Rob, that's not even the best clip. The clip is when he talks about, I mean, you can find another clip that he calls him out because there's a couple clips with him in New York Times. He just goes, boom, left, right. And that's a fact back? Ten months? Ten months. They didn't have a freaking cabinet meeting?
Starting point is 00:27:34 Holy crap. And to the point that even he doesn't have anything to say, Tom. What was your reaction when he first saw that? this here with best and call is this the one rob that's a longer version of it that's a little bit of a shorter one hang on okay you you keep looking at i think there's one of the clips this is one 34 okay let's you see this one here is this a new normal that Andrew there's no new normal and you know i i can tell you that i actually don't read the new york times anymore that sometimes i do watch cnbc but you know occasionally people send me articles and like there's just this
Starting point is 00:28:09 fever swamp and you know you're you're now a pop historian with 1929 there you go and you know in 20 30 40 50 years the new york times is no longer the paper of record i'm i you can't go you like you know i read this russian that's the question that's the clip it is a hundred percent fake that like he only called me twice at two in the morning last week instead of three times you're saying he called you i i believe that he called you That whole narrative, you had what was the greatest, one of the greatest scandals. So we watch this. Tom, go ahead. Well, what I think it just shows how prepared and the leadership of Scott Besson.
Starting point is 00:28:51 I am a big fan of Scott Besson. I am a big fan of Scott Besson. I love his leadership. I love the policy positions he's taken very much. And what he does here is deal book is part of the L.A. Times, New York Times. I got to get my liberal fishwrap straight. so he does this and he tries to put these things out there and he's just leading with his chin unfortunately andrew rossorkin in the mornings in cnbc he's kind of the liberal voice that's there
Starting point is 00:29:18 and he gets pushed a lot on there but he's a knowledgeable guy and everything and then here he goes trying to put these common things up there and kind of not really a debate for that but in kind of a counter format and scott besant just says you're going to throw an 80 mile an hour fastball at me there's a word for 85 mile an hour fastballs souvenirs because he's going to hit that and that's exactly what Scott Besson did. He hit it and I very much liked it and it was a big day for people taking a stand and making statements that were a little embarrassing. This was supposed to be a business conference talking about how politics and, you know, treasury policy, rates and everything meet business and he had a lot
Starting point is 00:29:57 of people on stage there and it turned out that you know, Andrew Ross Harkin got slapped a couple times. And by the way, I'm a fan of him. I like him in the morning. I think he's good at what he does. And I applaud New York Times for inviting the people that they did. They invited Erica Kirk. They invited Scott Besson. They invited so good for them for doing that, but you got your ass handed to you by Scott Besson. And by the way, while this is going on, they invited Hallie Berry to a New York Times event. What? Hallie Berry. And Hallie Berry gets up on stage. If I were to tell you right now, Hallie Berry is going to get on stage at a New York Times event and call out Newsom. And I told you last week, I want to make a prediction.
Starting point is 00:30:36 What would you have been your odds of this happening? Slimton on, watch what she says. Go ahead, Rob. But the opposite of that, back in my great state of California, my very own governor, Gavin Newsom, has vetoed our menopause bill, not one but two years in a row. But that's okay,
Starting point is 00:30:57 because he's not going to be governor forever. And with the way he's overlooked women, half the population, by devaluing us in midlife, he probably should not be our next president either just saying I need every woman in this country to fight with me but the truth is the fight isn't just for us women we need men too we need all of the leaders every single one of you in this room this fight needs you we need that's pretty wild for her to speak the way that she does
Starting point is 00:31:27 Adam your thoughts on Hallieberry now by the way she just posted a picture saying celebrating 60 it or 50 or something like that Can you pull with her? She's in the way. She's 68. She's just had a 59. Wow. She's still got it, baby.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Oh, she looks great. Yeah. She still got it. So just so I understand the framing of the situation, this is a New York Times event, and they're inviting people to have open conversation. Yes. Sort of unlike what the actual paper does. By the New York Times. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:54 How often have you heard Trump go, the failing New York Times, the failing New York Times, the failing New York Times? The New York Times, let's get this straight. They used to be the gold standard for reporting, for journalism. Yeah. They were like, we're the New York Times. How dare you question us? We're the New York Times. At this point, they're like the running joke or leftist gag.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Like, oh, the New York Times did it again. The New York Times said this. Okay, buddy. And they still act shocked when you call them out for their misinformation, their mistruths, their disinformation. They're supposed to be the ones who are speaking truth to power, but they're no longer journalists. They're just activists.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Just parroting the leftist progressive mouthpieces. If you see what's going on in New York, This is the New York Times at this point. Tom. So on Halliberry. Halliberry and Newsom. By the way, if you want to pull up Newsom, he did not respond. But his team responded and said something like, we are looking forward.
Starting point is 00:32:46 There you go. I think you have, was that it or no? Yaron is on Halliberry out of California when women are struggling in silent. That's what she said. That's what she said. He responded. His team said, you know, we appreciate Hallie Berry's concern and we are willing to work. Yeah, Gavin Newsom responds to this.
Starting point is 00:33:02 zoom in a little bit of a deep deep admiration for hally bearer's advocacy and is reconciling this after he received a sharp rebuke from the oscar winning actor who warned he probably should not be president during her address in my great city cal go a little bit lower is there a is there a sentence on news i'm told yet i'd be is that the one yeah that's from uh october okay so anyways apparently his team responded and said something that you know we we understand the importance here and you You know, we want to work with her to get what she once done in the state of California. In some words like that, that they responded to. Tom, your thoughts on Halliberry.
Starting point is 00:33:43 You know what? I love that she stood up for this because every now and then, you'll find a celebrity with an authentic cause. And what I mean by that is when you reach celebrity status, you will get coached by your publicist. Oh, save the whales. Keep the dolphins out of the tuna nets, you know, and all that. By the way, dolphins are supposed to be smart. If they're so smart, what are they doing it in a tuna net? Anyway, so they go on these kind of fake, you saw it.
Starting point is 00:34:10 You know, they would encourage you, publicists, encourage you in Hollywood. You're a comedian actor. Hey, get behind some kind of a charity. You know, and it has nothing to do with you. Holly Berry says this has to do with women. And what she's trying to get, you know, I believe that Medicare plans include Cialis or Viagra now. And people are asking saying, what the hell is the government really paying for that?
Starting point is 00:34:31 and check me on that. I believe Medicare parents cover that. And what Holly Berry is trying to do is saying, hey, let's get insurers to cover drugs that affect hormone drugs, hormone replacement drugs, and osteoporosis drugs, and the things that women need is supplements at menopause. So apparently, Holly Berry is with a very legitimate cause as a woman entering middle age and still looking great and representing it and saying, my governor can't get behind this. I'm not out here with Save the Whale. I'm not out here of some weird charity I'm out here
Starting point is 00:35:04 specifically stating these things could help women and by the way this is Newsom at the airport responding to it go ahead Rob with TMZ Holly Berry had some comments
Starting point is 00:35:13 do you have any she had actually just connected with her manager we're ability to reconcile so we're reconciled so I've included in the budget next year
Starting point is 00:35:22 she didn't know that oh really so what's your message to women who might have been offended by the bill or just what do they not understand about the bill that they shouldn't understand
Starting point is 00:35:32 we already were on the process so we're getting a fix. So did you have a talk to our manager exactly or? Such a government. Any chance?
Starting point is 00:35:41 Okay, if it was already in there why would Halliberry say that? If it was already in there, why does she go on stage in New York? We're reconciling. He's the spin master. We didn't fix it.
Starting point is 00:35:51 And he's not scared to go on camera and say, yeah, this is exactly what happened in defend his position. The definition of sociopath is they actually they know it's a lie but they're so good.
Starting point is 00:36:01 that they believe it. He is like water. Did you, I don't know, did you actually see him on the stage? I think we should take a moment of silence for his actual, his manhood, it was crushed. That killer crossover. Why do Democrats sit like that? Look at how even the other leg is folded, Pat. That can't be comfortable. Him and Obama, like, how would you talk like this?
Starting point is 00:36:20 That's how I would talk. It hurts. And again, how do you feel about California? That's how that would. So he could be like the six foot three Christmas health. Yeah, exactly. Tom, you were going to say something. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:36:32 No, I was going to say if you, what he's doing there, if you were to connect the dots, and this was Republicans, you know what they would say, if that was, if that was, if Holly Berry was Republican, and then that was Gavin Newsom there, they would say, Gavin Newsom accused Holly Berry of lying. He said that she was, didn't even do her research, didn't know it was there, that would be the media coverage. But why would Holly Barry go to New York to stand on a stage at the New York Times Deal Books Summit and say something she knew not to be.
Starting point is 00:36:59 true if they already have the coverage with it. Why is it a cause? Why would she do that? Why would she, you know, stick her chin out? She wouldn't. I don't, I don't, personally, I don't believe Gavin Newsom, and I'd like to see the receipts that say that all the things that Holly Berry is specifically talking about, coverages, drugs, and whatnot are truthfully, honestly in there. Now, if he's saying we have it in the budget, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:37:22 I thought this part of this was she wanted to compel insurance carriers and other people. We have it in the budget? Wait a minute. How would I have it in the budget if it was supposed to be a policy that forces health insurers to do something? How much do you think, Tom? How much you think this Tish Hyman lady is influencing Hallie? What is the likelihood that she has watched all those videos with Tish? You know what I'm talking about, Rob? I think it's very likely. I think it's very likely. How likely you think it is? I think it's over 90 percent. Over 90 percent because you know what, Hallie Berry is an Oscar award-winning actress.
Starting point is 00:37:59 And you know what they do when they, they get to get into character, actresses and actors of her caliber, Academy Award winnings, do a lot of research. You know about this. You do deep research to get in with the character. Deep research to know what you're going to do, how to present yourself. Tom, I ask a simple question. So why would she? What's the likelihood that she's watched Tish Heimel. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:38:17 I'll answer it. Go ahead. So the likelihood that she has looked at other people and how to present herself and including Tish Heimitt, I think is pretty high. She said, yes. So it's high likelihood that she did. Yes. So you have to say. I don't need an explanation.
Starting point is 00:38:31 So if she's watched it, so she's probably inspired by what she's also saying. Like the level of agitation for women in the state of California is that, hey, we are ourselves, you know, following a story like this to see what's going on here. But I think her level, Tom, stay with us here. You don't need to stay with us. So I think the part here with Tish,
Starting point is 00:38:54 I think she's playing a role in California. I think she's playing a role in California. I think Tish needs to understand that she has what it takes to possibly even influence politically. So I think if there is a relationship there for her to get out there and be vocal about what she's talking about, when's the last time Halliburie Berry was that vocal about Newsom? Rob, can you even pull up?
Starting point is 00:39:17 When has the last time Halliberry's ever been vocal about Newsom? Once the last time? Or even politics in general, Pat. Have you ever heard her say she's been quiet? I just want to know, when is the last time Halliberry's ever? has been vocal about Newsom. When has that ever happened? Prior to yesterday.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Okay, Preserve, come only in October, Newsom, menopause, we're going to see this, V to October. Okay, Barry had, you know, efficiently last October event. Got it. Okay. So she has not, she's never been vocal about Newsom ever till now.
Starting point is 00:39:52 That's crazy. Okay, when was Tish Hyman vocal about Newsom? I mean, recently, within the last month. Within the last month. So I think Hallie, is getting her confidence from other women that are questioning things for her to say, this makes sense.
Starting point is 00:40:06 That's the point I'm trying to make. I think Tish is playing a role in California, getting others to be thinking. Think about how bad it is. When you lose liberal black women in California, gay black women, you're losing your whole audience. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:40:21 You're losing the L, the G, and the B over the T. We're going to have a problem. Is that wild? Is that wild? That is pretty wild. But I'm so happy. How happy are you to see it, though? And what's his name, too?
Starting point is 00:40:33 Who was the guy that's going to try to take over Nancy Pelosi? The Jewish guy, the guy at the glasses. Why would you still mind him? Hilton. The weird guy that was taking photos at the parade. Oh, yeah, I don't know. They're all, they're acting that they're about women. They don't give a damn about one.
Starting point is 00:40:49 I don't know who that guys. I don't know who that guys. Okay, in the interim, while this is taking place, Rob, do you want to pull up the I'm trying to see if I go to this one now or do we wait till the end yeah let's go to this one here Barack Obama suggests military resistance pushing back on politicization
Starting point is 00:41:09 of the Justice Department okay so Barack is back at it again Rob go ahead and play this clip let's see what he has to say go for it I would not have expected the legitimacy of an election and the peaceful transfer of power to be to have
Starting point is 00:41:27 been challenged. Really? I thought that was not something that would happen today. Look at his legs. I would not expect the politicization of the Justice Department or our military. Wow. And I don't think that's happened. I think there's been resistance, particularly in the military to that.
Starting point is 00:41:55 but the degree to which that has been courage. I can't even listen to this. Five second pause. Go ahead, Tom. Color Revolution Playbook. That's what you're saying. The legitimacy of challenging this. This is Color Revolution Playbook,
Starting point is 00:42:12 and this guy is still at his core right out of Sol Olensky's playbook. That's what I see. Like, the absolute gall for him to sit there, again, with his legs folded, because he's one of them, too. His legs folded, sitting there talking about weaponizing and the Justice Department.
Starting point is 00:42:31 His DOJ was already spying on Trump before everything. He's the guy. He's, I truly believe, Pat, Tom. He's the guy behind all this. All the, you know, the questions of who signed the autoppin? Who was really in charge? That guy. I think Barack Obama silently in the back.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Remember that video that he did? He's like, I wish I had a little ear, that I could just, because he even said he wanted to run for a third term. He's the guy. And Tom, I keep here and you're so right. It's a color revolution. They want to delegitimize the actual guy who we all voted for. The popular vote, swing states, you name it.
Starting point is 00:43:10 We wanted it, but they're trying to tell us no, no, no. And what is he talking about, Pat? He's basically talking about the Venezuela bombings, correct? That's what he's talking about. He's talking about orders that are legal, but you're having these people like the Mar Kelly's and all these people in unison, try to say and delegitimize the orders of the sitting president of the United States as if, as if any of them are in the briefing rooms, any of them in the situation rooms, any of them
Starting point is 00:43:34 know what the hell is going on, and the fact that they're trying to push the narrative that it's a fishing boat. Robbie, can you look at what these boats actually look like, Patrick? It's not, they're speeding towards America. What are you coming for? And is it just me or does Venezuela and I have internet? Do none of these narco idiots understand if you're coming on a boat, Speeding with drugs. We're going to bomb the shit out of you. Stay away. Like, yeah, who's fishing on that thing?
Starting point is 00:44:01 What are all those barrels in there? What are you stupid? It's chum. We're going to throw it in there. We're chumming for tuna. But it drives me crazy about this guy, Barack Obama, one of the most divisive, drone striking, racist, telling people that if you're, if you're black,
Starting point is 00:44:17 you've got to vote for Kamala. I think he's the guy. I think he's the ringleader. And I think Hillary is standing right next to him with all the stuff that was going. going on for the past four years. When you say ringleader, we look at Steele dossier, Russia, you can go down the list. He was either in the room, had
Starting point is 00:44:31 knowledge, or called the shot. And multiple points based on a list of people that were at meetings, based on the list of people that were covered, including his chief of staff on emails, all those things. You were there, you called the shot, or you were in the room. And he has immunity. Do you know who talks like that? A guy that
Starting point is 00:44:47 knows that he'll never going to go to jail. He has presidential immunity. Go, sit there and get your $250,000 for this speech, probably more, and just lie. lie look I watch a lot of different news outlets sort of a mixed media diet and I'm looking for the Democratic Party to be like this is what they stand for
Starting point is 00:45:05 and as a former liberal I'm thinking you never know you never know if the right goes too deranged maybe I'll go back left and I'm seeing literally nothing come from the left nothing where I'm like huh good point huh because the entire narrative is we hate Trump he's the worst he's a bad man, he's Hitler. Trust us, bro.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Trust us, bro. But you're not selling us anything. You're not giving us any hope. What was his whole thing? His whole message was hope and changed. They're doing nothing but try to tear down what Trump has built. And for the average person out there, they're like, Trump or Ilhan Omar. Yeah, I'm going to go with Trump on this one, buddy.
Starting point is 00:45:46 And that's essentially what the Democratic Party is. As bad as they think Trump is, their approval numbers and their poll numbers are literally lifetime low. So that's how bad the Democratic brand is at this point. You make your good point. If that was W talking about Clinton or if that was Trump talking about Obama, what would the news coverage be? Instead, you're so correct. Silence, crickets.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Obama says all this stuff, crickets. What do you think, Pat? How much relevancy does Obama even have at this point? How much is he moving the needle? He used all his bullets during the election, so to speak. And they were blanks. Black men, listen to me. And they're like, yeah, we're good, Barack, we're going to vote for Trump.
Starting point is 00:46:25 This is all around Venezuela, right? Is this what this is all around? Yeah, he's talking about the orders that the president is giving to blow up. So let's go to that. Let's go and talk about that. So new details emerge about the controversial September 2nd strike on alleged drug boat that killed survivors. This is ABC News. Rob, I think you got a clip on this here if you want to play the clip.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Is this the one, Rob? Okay, go for it. and tonight new information according to a source familiar with the incident the two survivors climbed back onto the boat after the initial strike they were believed to be potentially in communication with others and salvaging some of the drugs because of that it was determined they were still in the fight and valid targets a jag officer was also giving legal advice so again david that video will be key and admiral bradley will be on the hill okay so is this is this the back and forth on Hexet ordering a lethal attack, but not the killing of the survivors.
Starting point is 00:47:29 These two stories are kind of one hand and hand, right, Rob? Do you have that one as well? Yeah, so this is, that was ABC News. Now, CNN reports that the Admiral has said that the people, the two remaining survivors of the September 2nd boat strike, they were not actually trying to radio to other drug smugglers. This is CNN reporting this late last night. Yeah, with what? breaking news. We have new exclusive reporting on the double strike on that alleged drug boat in September. Admiral Frank Mitch Bradley, who oversaw in the operation, told lawmakers today that the two survivors did not, as some defense officials have been claiming for months behind scenes, radio for backup before a second strike killed them. That's according to two sources with direct knowledge of today's closed-door briefings. Now, joining me is Senator Tammy Duckworth, a member of the Armed Services Committee and a retired U.S. Army pilot. So, Senator, does this change the calculus when determining whether a secondary strike would be
Starting point is 00:48:20 necessary, the idea that there was not a radio call? It doesn't really, Anderson. It tells you that the Defense Department has been lying to everybody since September, but it doesn't change their calculus because I say, you know, if you were, if these were pilots, if this was war and this was a pilot who'd been shot down, you're sitting in a rubber dinging in the middle of the ocean, and they radio for help, you're supposed to pick them up. You're supposed to help them. Or even if their, even if their forces pick them up, you can't just go in and kill those
Starting point is 00:48:50 people just because you think that they might conduct future operations against you. It just violates all sorts of international laws of warfare. It's illegal on so many levels. But it does. You know. Okay, Vinnie, what do you have to say about this? Okay, well, first and foremost, just to make
Starting point is 00:49:06 it clear, these aren't fishermen coming here to get tuna and all that nonsense. Okay, these are people coming here. Patrick, fentanyl and some guy yesterday on CNN was like, it's cocaine. It's cocaine. It's fentanyl.
Starting point is 00:49:21 It's drugs that are killing hundreds of thousands Americans. Put that in your minds out there. And this is what they're fighting for. This is it. And those two guys are hanging on the water. They're calling for help or their boys are going to come get them. Who do you think is going to come get them? Other drug dealers that are going to grab the drugs.
Starting point is 00:49:39 So what's the issue, though? What's the controversy here? They're trying to say, Pat, that Pete Hegseth is ordering a second strike. As you know, as a soldier, as a veteran. And I've watched these videos, Pat, because that's all I would do when I was in the military. When you strike and you see those like AC 110 war hog, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you hit them and they're wounded.
Starting point is 00:49:56 And they're staying there. You hear hit them again. You got to get rid of the freaking threat. Because if you keep them alive, they get another boat and they keep bringing the drugs to the country. I can, I approve to this 1,000%. He has a mandate, Pat. This is the Department of War.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Okay? Enough is enough. We can't let anybody here. And if you think about it, every mandate that Trump has, every mandate, the border. They want to open the border as best they can. deporting people, they have a problem with that. The terrorists that we're going to get to, $83 billion a month, they want to stop that.
Starting point is 00:50:27 He's killing people that are coming here that are going to eventually, with their poison, kill Americans. And this is just something, Pat, that the media and the left, this is the tactic. They have to do something. And it's not going to work because it's not illegal. It's not illegal. Ask the hundreds of thousands of mothers and fathers who have had to bury their kids, two of my friends, RICO and Fu from California. Yeah, they're at a party and they did a little bit of drugs
Starting point is 00:50:53 And they both died to my friends Because this cocaine had fentanyl in it They didn't overdose They were poison So enough of this nonsense Enough, this is just another talking point That she had to come out and admit And now anything, Pat, every day it's something different
Starting point is 00:51:06 Where they were floating Well, they weren't waving I don't give a shit If you're coming here to kill Americans You're gonna die Get those Venezuelans, get an email Look at the internet, get X And know that we will bomb your ass if you come here
Starting point is 00:51:19 Just play this clip first. Go ahead, Rob. So this is what, this is Hexat's saying that he did watch a 9-2 boat strike, but says he didn't stay around 40 entirely and then says it was Admiral Bradley that made the call, right, to sink the boats. Yep. Okay, go ahead. Watch that first strike lot. As you can imagine at the Department of War, we got a lot of things to do.
Starting point is 00:51:39 So I didn't stick around for the hour and two hours, whatever, where all the sensitive site exploitation digitally occurs. So I moved on to my next meeting. A couple of hours later, I learned. that that commander had made the, which he had the complete authority to do. Bingo. And by the way, Admiral Bradley made the correct decision. Bingo.
Starting point is 00:51:56 To ultimately sink the boat and eliminate the threat. He sunk the boat, sunk the boat, and eliminated the threat. And it was the right call. We have his back. And the American people are safer because narco-terrorists know you can't bring drugs through the water and eventually on land, if necessary, to the American people. We will eliminate that. that threat and we're proud to do it.
Starting point is 00:52:20 So he didn't see. Plain and simple. Plain and simple. I got up. I have other stuff to do. My admiral, chain of command, said blow the, kill them. That's it. The message should be out there.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Okay, in this whole Venezuela case, didn't Maria Machado, didn't she technically win the election, Patrick? That guy's not even supposed to be in there. And he's running for his life, like you said in the beginning, sleeping in different beds. Enough is enough is enough. Any American that is going to be threatened by your drugs, we're going to kill you. What the hell does Anderson Cooper know about war? What briefing rooms is Anderson Cooper or anybody at ABC? I have a source that's a Trump-hating Congresswoman.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Go in front of the camera and talk shit about the president. Enough already. Enough. He has a mandate. That's what I voted for, Pat. What is this? Do you have the clip about Maduro sleeping in different beds and, you know, changing phones just to big show or because he's worried for his life?
Starting point is 00:53:12 I do. I think it's. Is this a clip or? But I believe it's in. Umberto, what are they saying? Me informed of other things. Yeah, it's in Spanish? Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Okay. See if you can have that in translated time. Tell us your thoughts about the story here. So Maduro, if he's truly sleeping in different beds, it means he is convinced. I found three stories together to be very, very funny. Maduro said, I had a peaceful and productive. I think those were the translated Spanish words, peaceful and productive phone call with President Trump. And then we hear, he's sleeping in different beds. and he's using different phones.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Okay, that sounds like a guy who's a little worried about sophisticated triangulation through electronic devices and is now sleeping in different places because if you take a look at the Israeli actions in Beirut, they knew what room and what apartments that guys were in, and they hit that room in that apartment.
Starting point is 00:54:13 You don't think Maduro knows that kind of technology is available to the entire West, especially the U.S.? Of course. He does. so pat this is a nervous guy who is saying the right things to the camera about a phone call with trump but is scared to death but he's putting up a brave you know big dictator a face in public but behind closed doors he is worried that his day could come tonight or tomorrow night so he's moving around trying to avoid getting hit by the way the last you know bit of the movie of on pablo excuse me the documentary in pablo escobar Pablo eskabar was doing the same thing
Starting point is 00:54:48 He was moving around, he was active, and finally he got found one morning. They identified him, and he tried to escape one safe house to another, and they shot him on the roof of the house. So you don't think Maduro's thinking that. That's what Maduro is thinking about. Adam. I just want to know if there was a different alternative to what's going on. So obviously, we're fully supportive of drugs not pouring into our country, criminals just running around. I'm just simply wondering, are there better approaches to just blowing up drug boats?
Starting point is 00:55:15 why aren't, you know, maritime Navy police officers rolling up and hijacking this? Like, is there a better alternative? I'm not questioning the motive. I fully support not having these people in our country or provide drugs. I'm just simply asking a question. Is there a better approach just to just blowing them up out of the water?
Starting point is 00:55:34 Where they are, Adam, to send stuff out there, and it's a huge military operation. Here's the thing. Here's the deterrent. They warned you. Adam, but we're ready for this? They've been warned. don't bring your drugs to our shores.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Period. International water and they're speeding. What fishermen's driving 100 miles an hour? Like, what are we lying? Adam, they're not playing games. They're not going to stop, pull them over, bring them here, enough of it. Because they're sending them all the time. Every day there's another boat.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Every single day. Because Adam, that's their money. That's their bread. It's Maduro. You know what I mean? All the nastiness that this guy's done in this freaking life, all the cartels, everything is drugs. And they continue to send them?
Starting point is 00:56:15 They keep sending them every day. Do these people not here? Hey, buddy, what happened? Adam, Hector and Juan and Carlos, yeah, they're ready for this? What about the other guys? Look at this video, Rob. Look at this video. They don't even have HD.
Starting point is 00:56:24 They still don't have HD, bro. You think they're sitting there? Are they not following the internet? Like, L the Venezuelans, if you have, you know people, tell them to stop. Okay. Then you're going to get blown up, period. Adam. And end of story.
Starting point is 00:56:37 There is no. So are you saying that the guys who take the next mission and the third mission? They're not listening. They're not on X. No, no, they made it. It's okay. Let's go. Let's let's see, yeah, we're going to, and then they just boom.
Starting point is 00:56:48 No, I think that they know. No, I think that they know. They don't want something. Risket's involved? They know, but they're like, hey, you know what? The cartels are saying, get your ass and go. Get your ass and go, because you might make it. So they're mules, and they're saying, listen, you're going to die one way or another
Starting point is 00:57:00 you. They're going to stay in the country. We're going to kill you if you don't do this. Or Afuera and you're going to go figure it out. How about, how about this? Don't even man them. Have a remote control boat. Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Well, don't give my ideas, buddy. Don't do something different, you moron. Yeah. Okay, let's get to the next story here. Next story I want to go to is with Turning Point USA, apparently eventually responds back to Candace. Rob, if you have that clip up there, there's a video that was going viral, I think,
Starting point is 00:57:25 was it yesterday or the day before with them reacting? How long is that one, Rob? So this is, I have two clips. This is Blake Neff from Turning Point USA. The first one is him listing all of the different people that Candace Owens has claimed to have been. been involved in the assassination of Charlie Kirk. The second clip is the invitation for Candace to join them.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Go for it. Let's see this. And by the way, can you pause it? Rob, who is he first? What senior role does he have? Is he a leader of the company? Is he a spokesperson? I've not seen him before.
Starting point is 00:57:58 I don't want to say he may be very big in a TPSA community. Producer of the Charlie Kirk show. He is the producer of the Charlie Kirk show. Okay. So he's involved. Go forward. A flood of allegations against people at Turning Point USA, people at Turning Point Action, and people who work for this show. She has made them against some of Charlie's closest friends and against some of his most dedicated employees.
Starting point is 00:58:23 She has suggested that Michael McCoy, Charlie's chief of staff, knew Charlie would be murdered, was happy that he died, and stayed silent because he was told he would be the next Charlie. She has suggested, Michael is not his real name. it is, I have seen his birth certificate myself. She has called it suspicious that Mikey's wife, who works at Turning Point, helped plan the campus tour event where Charlie was murdered, which she didn't, by the way, she doesn't work on campus events. Candice has suggested the Utah Valley University event was unusual, and its details suggested a, quote, inside job.
Starting point is 00:58:58 She has claimed that foreign aircraft have followed Erica Kirk around the country, and that Turning Point has lied about this happening. She has accused us of lying about Charlie wanting Erica to take over for him if he died. She has suggested Charlie's security team intentionally denied him first aid after the shooting to ensure that he died. She has raised suspicions about the head of our technical team because he took an SD card out of a camera. She has spread absurd claims that Tyler Boyer, who we just had on the show, sexually abuses male interns. She has suggested that TPUSA faith-affiliated pastors, like theologian, Frank Turrick, who will have on in a moment, and Pastor Rob McCoy are part of a military...
Starting point is 00:59:43 So he's going through all the claims that Candace has made about TPUSA. Okay, if the folks have seen it, you've seen it, he keeps going through it. Okay, Rob, what's this clip? This is a quick clip, this is 37 seconds. This is Blake inviting Candace to appear with the rest of the Charlie Kirk show in Arizona in December. Okay, go for it. Candice has mentioned several times that the ball is in our court. So here's what is going to happen.
Starting point is 01:00:10 In the near future, there will be a live stream here in Phoenix, where we address in a clear and comprehensive way the claims and accusations, the false accusations, that have been made against Charlie's family, friends, and the people here at Turning Point. We plan to walk through everything carefully and thoroughly. If Candace is available, we would sincerely welcome her participation
Starting point is 01:00:32 in that live stream at our studio here in Phoenix. At this point, we believe the ball is back in her court. Okay, so has she responded to it? She did. This is Candice Owens. After that, uh, was offered, here she is. No, but I cared about Charlie. Have you no shame?
Starting point is 01:00:54 We're going to find out you can pick the place. You can pick the time. I say we do it tomorrow. We don't need to plan for this. We don't need lawyers in between us, lawyer statements. It's not how, I roll, okay? I don't care about any of that. I want it to be authentic. Like I said, you can take the money. We can raise money live for this conversation. That is how badly
Starting point is 01:01:11 the world is demanding it. So I accept it with whistles and bells, everything. I fully accept. I say, let's do it tomorrow. Let's do it tomorrow. And my only ground rule is no assassinations. Okay? No assassinations, no funny business. You can't pretend you're going to do it. And then Candace died a mysterious accident. Okay. We'll be right back after a quick. break. Okay. So she responds back to that. The no assassination's comments kind of weird, but she responds back to it. What else do you have, Rob, here on what's been said? So then Blake Neff offers the Monday, December 15th at 4 p.m., offer to Candace. This comes at 121 in the morning. And then I have another tweet that I'll pull up right here. This is Candice Owens then
Starting point is 01:01:56 stating that the invite didn't work. She's saying the invite didn't work. She's saying the invite didn't work. December 15th does not work in person in 2 p.m. Pacific time is also literally the time that I do my podcast live every day. We will happily cancel the daily podcast and we'll join you guys virtually instead of the live stream on the 15th. If that works on your end, let's lock it in. And then I have one final tweet. This is Blake saying that the invite is no longer on the table after Candace turned down the in-person interview. At Desjardin Insurance, we put the care in taking care of business, your business to be exact. Our agents take the time to understand your company so you get the right coverage at the right price. Whether you rent out your building, represent a condo
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Starting point is 01:03:19 holiday season with pandora shop now at ca.pandora.net or visit your closest pandora store So she says anytime, any place, then they say Wednesday, Wednesday, and then she says yes. She said, then she says, well, I can't do that. I'm shooting, but I could join you virtually. I can't be there in person. And then they respond with this saying, okay, well, we're now longer going to consider having you on the podcast since you can't appear in person. And then what did she say next? Anything else outside of that?
Starting point is 01:03:53 I have not seen anything else. I believe there was a response she did last night. I'll look and see if I can find it. Okay. All right. So, Adam, your thoughts? Well, a lot to unpack here. So let me just understand this.
Starting point is 01:04:04 She spends the last three months questioning everything. Her entire brand for the last three months has been like, what the hell's going on with Charlie? What's going on here? I have questions. I have serious questions. And when I say I have questions, you know the type of questions that I have. I mean, you know.
Starting point is 01:04:20 So any time, anywhere, any place, I'm there for it. Okay, yeah, Candice, here's the date, the time. Come on. I'm busy. you're busy what do you have well i have my podcast that day and time oh you mean the podcast that you spent every single waking moment talking about charlie kirk questioning everything we got going on you're trying to tell me that you can't come on our podcast to talk about what exactly you're talking about this doesn't add up it's kind of like two guys are about to go to a fight it's like bro
Starting point is 01:04:52 meet me in the park at three o'clock three o'clock you got it bro meet you there okay cool see you that all right yeah dude i actually had a prior engagement yeah so move it i really wish i could man i'm sorry but hey if you want me to sign in virtually it just doesn't add up to me it's kind of like you're calling the bluff okay here's the biggest problem i have if you give me 30 more seconds i don't know if you noticed over the uh the last couple days candis former friend i'd say uh has not exactly been uh gratuitous she'd put me on the cover of a thumbnail. I don't care. I can take the heat. My biggest question comes down to one word, friendship. Is this really what friends do when someone gets murdered? Is this
Starting point is 01:05:41 what your friend does? Because with friends like these, who needs enemies? So a friend, you would support the grieving wife, not question her, okay? You would help build the company that you help create, not try to destroy it, and the worst thing of all, you're trying to dismantle Charlie's legacy when you should be trying to defend it. If Charlie is looking down from heaven, and if there's an angel out there, it could be St. Charlie. What do you think he would be saying at Candace at this point? Thank you, Candice. Thank you for questioning my life, my wife, and my legacy. Thank you so much, great friend. So to me, that's what this comes down to. Vinnie. Well, Rob, do you find out what Tim Poole, Tim Poole went crazy.
Starting point is 01:06:21 I have it. By the way, so did Nick Quentin? I have both of those. Pat, you want to see? Like what? Tim Poole. I have a shorter version because Tim was, um, Tim's was about five minutes as was Nick Fuentes.
Starting point is 01:06:33 You don't need to listen. Let's just listen to the first minute of Tim Puan. Go for it. What I care about is what is true and what will help this country and what works. And she is a fucking scumbag. Okay. And she's getting worse every day. And she crossed the line.
Starting point is 01:06:48 She continually crosses the line. every day, insinuating the turning point literally killed the guy who made them all rich. And I have to, and I hear this in the streets. And I, at a certain point, I'm like, holy shit, we're going to lose the midterms. We're going to lose the midterms. Then we're going to lose in 2028. And it's because she's a piece of shit. Because instead of saying, guys, let's come together and forgot to work together.
Starting point is 01:07:11 She says the stupidest retarded crap. And now everybody's running around divided and broken. for what reason for literally what reason so Tim is not because she wants to be the main character well okay
Starting point is 01:07:26 that's the reason can we uh okay so about the situation um I think by the way do you have what Nick Fuentes I have to say let's go ahead Vinny
Starting point is 01:07:35 and then we'll go to Nick go ahead so well I agree if you're gonna want the smoke and they offer you to get the smoke go get it I don't get date time candid you go go because you she knows
Starting point is 01:07:47 what she's doing. Bring your ass, sit there, and go after them. Because if you think about it, all this stuff, I am kind of weirded out, though, all the stuff that she's saying, is that not libelous time? Like, can you sue if what you're saying is false? Actually false. Stay tuned on the next episode. Well, no, that's what I'm saying is. Because just like the book, the real Dr. Fauci, where Fauci didn't sue RFK and all that stuff was there, he couldn't see, he could have sued him, but he didn't. But my thing is this, and we talked about this, guys, at the end of the day, Candice, what is her job? Her business is what? Murder mystery? What's the number one? You talk to me. You talk to me. Yeah, exactly. Murder mystery, crime, true podcast. She gets how many,
Starting point is 01:08:27 Robbie? 150, 60 some thousand. I'm not saying she doesn't care about Charlie, but a lot of this, I think, is like, tomorrow we're going to get this. You might see this over there. This person said this. The angle is over this. And I get it. It's people love that stuff. People love that. My favorite show, first 48 who did it what's happening what's over there oh my god it's a suspense thing so don't at the end of the day she's not stupid this is a great business model nobody has ever called her stupid oh my god pat was it pat was it tom so you got to give credit where credit's due with the same token if somebody calls you out like that i get it family four kids business you have the podcast but when somebody says yo bring it candace go bring it go sit down with them and show them everything that you
Starting point is 01:09:13 have bring the receipts and say that shit to the their face. That's what I would do? No, what do I mean? How what? Go in there and go sit where you said you were going to sit. You know, sit in that chair. Listen, she is so talented. I know she is. But you know she was never going to show up to turning point to their face when they have all the answers, all the receipts, and she's going to question them with what? A dream I had? Excuse me. Were you in my dream? No. So I'll never say that Candace is stupid. What do you mean a dream I had? She said, she's dreaming out there. She's dream she's seeing visions this is beyond just normal this is just candace making stuff up
Starting point is 01:09:51 canis has graduated from talking about cultural issues and politics to doing the uh nancy grace phenomenon murder mystery scooby-due i would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling why matt i i i didn't like the assassination comment at the end throwing that in at the end it it takes kind of takes away from the argument she's trying to make And that kind of disappointed me to see that. Also, if Turning Point knew the times and presented something that was intentionally blocked, you know, on time and they knew it, as she said, because we can all look at the schedules, she was and is normally on the air at that time. So that makes it look like, did you really want her to come or did you present a time that maybe was a little off? Bro, she can postpone her show for this.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Stop it. No, no, no, no. And live stream it as well. But it's... You're kidding me? Look, if they want her there and they want to clear the air and they're going to present this long list... Didn't Rob just say that she said anytime, any place? Well, she did.
Starting point is 01:10:54 And the question is, you know, what does all that mean? Anytime, any place, anywhere except for the... That seemed... That's not... I'm not taking sides there. It does seem odd. Tommy, hold on. Take a side on it.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Real question. You know the business. I'm so sick of people are not taking sides on this. You know the business, right? Couldn't she have... Can Candace? live stream that the same time for her show? The answer is yes. Right?
Starting point is 01:11:16 Whatever the whole is. The question is the answer is yes. That would be $250,000. She can do whatever she wants. She's her own boss now. No. No. To me, if Candace can take a week off during Thanksgiving, she can take a day off and go do the show. Of course.
Starting point is 01:11:30 And I want her to. I want to see it. I think the world wants this to stop. That's what the world wants. That's my net. This isn't bringing people together. There's a core of the 10. The world wants this thing to stop. The world wants a time for somebody who, you know, the world wants this to stop. The world wants this thing to be done. The world wants to move on with their lives. So if Candace wants
Starting point is 01:11:55 it to be done, well then get to the bottom of it. Does it benefit for it to be done? Then that's a question. And you've got to ask that question. If it benefits to be done, great. Let's move on. They're offering for you to go there. If for the last three months, someone's been talking about this only what percentage of her show has been around this? Give me a percentage. What percentage of her shows has been on this topic? I think every episode's been about Charlie. Yeah, my wife listens. I think it's been about 90% of her content has been
Starting point is 01:12:25 Charlie and then there's been some other stuff mixed in there, but a lot of it has been Charlie. A little bit of Bridgett McCrone. Rob, where are you at with this? Where are you at? If you're going to say any place, any time, then you have to show up any place any time. You can't make that declaration and then not go. On the other hand, them issuing, hey, you have 24 hours to accept our invitation and we send that invitation at 121 in the morning. I've worked in radio and podcasting. Is it 121? Like they gave her 24 hours from 121? Yeah, they said that they, well, she has until
Starting point is 01:12:58 the end of tomorrow, the end of today to give us the answer. That's a full day though. So it's not like they're not given a full day for it to decide. It's not a way that you invite someone. I can't imagine it doesn't feel like an invitation to appear on a podcast. It feels more like an invitation to a hostage negotiation. Like we've invited people to the podcast. It's not you come now or don't come at all. That's not an invitation. No, I respect it.
Starting point is 01:13:21 I love Rob. You say the following words, any place, anywhere, anytime. That's the end of the discussion. You show up. Well, she did say I'll come tomorrow. Any place, anywhere, anytime. Yeah, but except for these following dates and times. There's also have a doctor's appointment.
Starting point is 01:13:37 By the way, do you know where she was this two days ago? Dollywood was, according to report, she was at Dollywood after the death threats had come through. I cannot find any verification of that other than people on the internet claiming that. I don't know where she was at Dollywood. She was at Tucker Carlson's Christmas party. Why would I know that? After everything I said about Tucker, because it turns out I got a text from, and I'll show it to you. I won't show the name.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Who's in this picture? Don't say the person. Candace and someone else, right? Yeah. Hey, I'm here with your friend. that's a whoa I go
Starting point is 01:14:08 say hello for me she says hi too really I go great merry Christmica I said send her my regards meaning I don't have beef
Starting point is 01:14:20 with Candid I don't I have beef of what she's doing to her friend and friends don't do this to one another she's going to war against Charlie's wife and company and all his friends
Starting point is 01:14:33 that's like me saying hey, PPD, thank you for everything, bro. I've known you since what year, PBD? 2012. But we started the podcast, 2020. God forbid anything would happen. God forbid. Could you imagine me attacking Jen,
Starting point is 01:14:47 attacking Valuetainment? That is so disgusting to me. Attacking the closest people to our leader, as if I should question ever what he has going on in his life. Hey, by the way, why would all these people, why are they around you? Why would you do Valuetainment?
Starting point is 01:15:04 What are these receipts? How about you shut up and respect the fact that a family, a company, a legacy is in mourning? How about that? But no, let me fuel the flames here, try to tear this down. Here's the point. There's builders in this world and there's destroyers. Both are equally talented, equally talented. Candice is a destroyer. She is so good with her words. She is so talented. She sees something, whether it's BLM, whether it's Israel, whether it's church. Charlie Fricken Kirk and goes, light the match, burn it down. And she's so good at it. And we'll see how she recovers from this. But is this what a friend would do? Not on my watch, homie. I mean, you have to admit, though, with the BLM and all that stuff and the George Floyd, she was right about that.
Starting point is 01:15:53 But that's the thing. You could be right on some things. Of course. And deathly wrong on another. And people are not nuanced or smart enough to be like, you know what? Candace is right on everything. everything well again no no i mean those people are idiots because they're just blind you ever seen if this isn't wackos on the left calling out candis this is timpool this is stephen crowder
Starting point is 01:16:16 did you hear the dismantling of what nick fuentes had to say i mean if there's anybody that maybe should be aligned it's the tucker carlson nick fuentes can this crew dave smith but here's what nick fuentes had to say do you have that how about this afraid for her life why was she at tucker Carlson's Christmas party in Nashville last night. Why was she at Dollywood on Thanksgiving, the theme park? So, allegedly, the French government and the Israeli intelligence have put a hit out on you. They've paid millions of dollars to kill you. But you're walking around a theme park in your town.
Starting point is 01:16:56 You're walking around, for those that don't know, Dolly, what is it, Dollywood, Dollyland? It's like Dolly Parton's Disney World. you're walking around Disney World you're walking around an amusement park in your hometown on the holiday weekend when allegedly everyone's trying to kill you then you go to a Christmas party with Tucker Carlson
Starting point is 01:17:17 in the same city attended by hundreds of people and people know you're going to be there with Tucker and all the base people in one room but you can't go to turning point where everybody knows you're going to be and if anything happening you God forbid they would immediately blame turning point. It doesn't even make any sense.
Starting point is 01:17:35 And you know what my thing is? And by the way, that was the nicest thing he had to say. Do you have the real scathing clip, by the way? I can find that. That was like, I sent it to you on Slack, by the way. Because at the end of that. That was like, hey, let me give you some grace for a second. Nick Fuentes, given grace to Candace.
Starting point is 01:17:50 And that was part A. And here's the one. I don't know if you could find part B. And here's when he goes nuclear on the lady. And here's the one thing, with everything that's going on, with all the turning point, with all the this, all the, At the end of the day, the official narrative of the Tyler Robinson thing isn't, I'm not buying it in that sense.
Starting point is 01:18:09 Meaning the real questions we should be asking is the roof, the gun. No, no, no, don't go there. We're going to get there. This isn't about the facts of the case. This is about her friendship relationship with Charlie and what they're doing this. My point is that's what everybody should be talking about. I agree. Cool.
Starting point is 01:18:27 George Zinn, the guy that stood up, waved the white freaking handkerchief. Like, look at me so the killer could get away. Where is that guy? Where is the guy with the pedophile phone all of a sudden? Where is, by the way, the furry. Tyler Robinson's furry boyfriend? Whatever. That guy's been missing at him for almost two months, three months,
Starting point is 01:18:45 or since the shooting. He's been missing. Those are the questions. To put all this on turning point and say that this was a huge, that is a freaking stretch. My focus is, I hope they're trying to find out who the hell this guy is if it was actually him, who helped him do it, who the George Zinn connection was,
Starting point is 01:19:05 and if anything else, they still can't define a bullet, that magic bullet from JFK, Adam, me personally, and I know, we're not going there, a bullet, there's no magic bones in anybody's by that's going to stop a 30 at 6th. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:19:18 That thing goes through Dears, it goes to elk. Those are the questions we should be asking. That should be the main focus. Here are more questions that Nick Fuentes has for Candice, if you don't mind. They're going to do a live stream. They're going to answer all the questions about Charlie Kirk.
Starting point is 01:19:34 They invite her to show up. She says, challenge accepted. Name the time, name the place. We don't need to plan it out. Let's just do it. They say, okay, December 15th. She goes, oh, but that's a bad day for me. I can't do it then.
Starting point is 01:19:49 Can I Skype in? Can I Zoom? Bitch. We can't. What are we doing here? I said it on telegram. You actually just have to admire the audacity. Total audacity.
Starting point is 01:20:02 This woman has gone in every single day for three months. And she has dragged everybody. And like every country, the wife, the friends, the company, the government, the FBI, Israel, France, Egypt. She's dragged everybody through this, whatever you want to call it, this. investigation. It's served up to her on a silver platter. All right, uncle, we give up. We're losing to disinformation and mass hysteria. You know, the open society is failing. Mass psychosis has taken hold over the nation. Fine. We'll do a live stream. We'll justify why we
Starting point is 01:20:50 didn't kill our boss. And you can ask us anything you want. Just show up. And she goes, I can't that day. Honestly, what else do you have going on? This is your job. You're a YouTuber. She acts like she's like she's a wagey. Like, oh, I got to check with my boss. This is your job.
Starting point is 01:21:13 This has been your obsession and crusade for three months. Literally, what could you have going on? Because it sounds like we're probably, Candace, respect to you. You want people knowing your name, saying your name. Bravo, you did it. I don't know if this is what you want them saying, but there's a famous phrase,
Starting point is 01:21:30 don't care what you say about me, just spell my name right. Everyone's spelling your name right right now. Not sure if you want this smoke, but she signed up for- So this is her responding. So it has been decided by the public that the best response for this is for me,
Starting point is 01:21:43 for my team to live stream, your live stream, and provide commentary. Since you already picked our regular podcasting time, we look forward to providing live responses to your once and for all answers. So she's going to live stream to their live stream. He gives a shit about another live stream to their live stream.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Go show up and answer the questions or ask them the tough questions. What do you think about this? Well, here's what I think. Tim Poole, I'm on Tim Poole's page, maybe with not that kind of fire and intensity and language. Did he call her a skum bag? No, no, no, no. But what Tim Poole has said, you know, in the middle of all this, we're not coming together, we're getting distracted. And we have got a lot of things to do.
Starting point is 01:22:22 And you look at the polling data, there was a special election that, that the Republicans barely won the other day, which I think should be a big blinking light on the dash of what we need to do. And at a time where all these voices can be coming together about what we need to do as a country and where we need to go and the causes that we need to take, we're in the middle of this, this fire.
Starting point is 01:22:40 And so I'm with Vinnie. Candice, if you have the receipts and everything, show up with the receipts. You said anytime, any place, yeah, they sent something late and maybe it conflicted with that. But come together and do it. Sit down and do it. Nick Fonte's is right.
Starting point is 01:22:55 Nothing's going to happen to you at turning point in their building with other people. Let's go do it. But let's get back to the focus. PPD, maybe not even a Candace thing. Let me just, if you say PBD, oh, okay, yeah, anytime, any place, anywhere, you say those words. And then the other person, the debate, the challenger goes, yeah, sure, this date, this date, this date. Do you not move mountains in your world to show up anytime, any place, anywhere, whatever this case may be? if it's something that is pure conviction anytime, any place.
Starting point is 01:23:28 And it seems like this is pure conviction for Candace. Because if this is a thing that you're coming from a place of this level of conviction, then yes, take me anywhere, anytime, any place, provide security. You know, we would fund security for Candace. We would send our team and, you know, maybe, you know, whoever she wants, that we would fund it to say, here's security, 20 people, what is it going to cost? We'll fund it for you.
Starting point is 01:23:55 Go there to feel safe. Because she's right. She needs to feel safe. She should. But at the same time, to me, if this is like, there's a part of me that's like,
Starting point is 01:24:08 go with the Macron story, right? Go with the Macron story. Tom, what is that? Does that have to do with the story or? No, I was just. Okay. So go with the Macron story. So with the Macron story, there's a part of it that you're interested in the Macron story, right?
Starting point is 01:24:26 Where it's like, I want to know. Okay, let's keep going. I want to know what's going on, how this thing's going to end. But with the Turning Point USA, guys, I don't know if you really... Maybe it's just a phase you're going through. You'll get over it. I can't help you with that. The next appointment is in six months.
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Starting point is 01:25:18 and oh my God and what's going on and I think I'm on her side, I'm on their side. It's not she's this, she's a scotch, she's going, set all that stuff aside. If there's no turning point USA, Trump does not win in 2024. Yep. Perfect. If I'm the Democrats, if I'm Qatar, if I'm anybody that wants Democrats back in, dude, I have to dismantle turning point USA.
Starting point is 01:25:45 And she's helping in that process. So now whether she's coming from a place of She's doing it because she's getting eyeballs She's doing it because a dream she had with Charlie And Charlie told her this Whether it's because she's funded Whether it's because that's exactly what she believes I don't care what those reasons are
Starting point is 01:26:04 Everybody has their own reasons for doing some things And sometimes it doesn't make sense to you And then it takes 10, 20 years to really learn the motive It took us four years to realize What happened with the pipe bomber, right? The four or five years to realize Yeah To realize what's going on with the pipe bombers
Starting point is 01:26:17 We may not know what's going on here for a long time, but what we do know is the following. Turning Point USA falls. Someone is replacing those kids being fed, and then who is that? Name me the second biggest Turning Point USA organization that you trust. Name me who you trust above Turning Point USA where the guy Charlie Kirk put it together. Then we have to make one of two things. Either Charlie Kirk was such a horrible leader that he picked people the wrong way,
Starting point is 01:26:53 then we're questioning his character because you get judged for who you choose. Okay? And so Candice's argument is a turning point yesterday is that bad, then that's questioning his character and is wherewithal to pick the right leadership team on what to do with the company. Okay?
Starting point is 01:27:13 So then if that's the direction you're going to go, I don't know. I think long term when you think about who's playing a positive role on the right values and principles being passed down to the kids, as a man who's got four kids, I would put Charlie above everybody.
Starting point is 01:27:32 I don't put anybody about Charlie Kirk. I don't know if I would put Tucker or Candice or who else. None of those guys. They all came to his event. Yeah, no. What he was doing is, And I'm not even saying that they're not role models or they are role models.
Starting point is 01:27:50 That's not their brand. Their brand isn't grow up to be a great man, family man, all this stuff. Tucker is the one that's exposing and, you know, interviews. And Candace is the one that's kind of like a little bit of crime and, you know, entertainment that she does mystery. Yeah. But to me, if you're somebody that has kids, you have young boys, what organization was helping raise young boys? I would come home at night. and I would see Dylan on his own
Starting point is 01:28:16 watching a two-hour debate of Charlie Kirk on pro-life pro-choice because he wanted to learn more about it because somebody in school asked him the question. We lost that guy. He didn't curse. He didn't drop F-bombs. He didn't say anything else.
Starting point is 01:28:31 He was a great example. And he was a Christian guy, family guy, go get married, have kids, make money, read books, go read this stuff on Hillsdale. He was a good, likable guy. so either he is such a horrible leader that he built a company of everybody backstabbing him he was so oblivious and naive which Charlie never gave me naive vibes or you're just I don't I this other side is like what so I don't know because to me I would like the way
Starting point is 01:29:12 I see it as the following. Okay, I think Nick plays a role. Funtus. I think Nick plays a role. Because I think Nick to me is Tupac. Nick's just got to stay alive. And he's his own enemy. Nobody is a bigger enemy for Nick than Nick. And I don't think he has somebody he listens to. I don't think he has somebody who trusts that can give him that feedback. I don't think he's that guy. But I think he plays a role. I think Tucker plays a role. I think, you know, a lot of these content I think Crowder plays a role. I think, you know, Shapiro. Pira plays a role. I know it's like, yeah, I think Michael Knowles plays a role.
Starting point is 01:29:46 I think Matt Walsh plays a massive role. I think a lot of these guys play a role, but none of them played as big of a role as Charlie Kirk. And for me, you know, I would even be somebody that would sit there and say, I don't know if I agree with certain ways Erica handles herself with camera being on. And I've said that. You know, some things would hand on the back of the head of J.D. Vance and they just announced J.D. is going to be speaking at Turning Point.
Starting point is 01:30:12 USA's Amfest event, which is great. But to me, it was Kirk number one priority, TPSA as an organization, number two priority. What can we do to make sure this thing continues and then who's running it? Who did this? Those questions are good questions. Like we can debate who should be the replacement,
Starting point is 01:30:33 the board, the face, the podcast, all of that stuff. I think those are good questions to have. And those are things we should question. Like when the day that Charlie Kirk got killed, we were talking about what happens with TPP USA. Who's going to be the guy that's going to run it or the gal that's going to run it? Who's going to be able to continue the legacy of what Charlie did? That was on my mind.
Starting point is 01:30:56 And that's a valid, that's kind of like Steve Jobs died. Who's going to continue the legacy of Apple? It is. There's a book called After Steve that I think everybody at TPSA needs to read. It's called After Steve. The book is about After Steve Jobs. It's a phenomenal book. for everybody at Turning Point USA to read this book.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Everybody, because he was like a Steve of his space. Of course. So this was a book that was written probably seven years ago. What year did it come out? Five, three years ago. Phenomenal book that they got to read. But, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what's going on over here.
Starting point is 01:31:27 And if America matters, if the future of our kids staying responsible, good citizens matter, if all of those things are important, you know, we have to highlight what organizations do that because it's not an easy thing to do. It is very hard to build a turning point USA, but it's even harder to continue that company after the face of the company dies. It's very hard.
Starting point is 01:31:56 You know why it's very hard? Because everybody at TPUSA right now that's working there, guess who everybody is being compared to? Who do you think? 24-7, bro. Of course. No one's going to charge. No one's not going to Charlie.
Starting point is 01:32:10 And you know how sometimes like a father, like you know, I had Reza Pahlavi here who have been very critical of him the last six months. Mohamed Rezapalavi, and I sat him on the first time. And I said, you know, do you feel like there's some unnecessary pressure? Do you even want this job? And you could tell for the first time in his life on camera. He said, yeah, it's a lot of pressure.
Starting point is 01:32:31 No, I don't want to. I said, maybe you don't want this job. And I'll say, no, I'm going to come in. What is the pressure of everyone? Well, you're not your father. Well, you're not your father. Well, you're not your father. Well, you're not your grandfather.
Starting point is 01:32:43 Well, shut the, you know. Of course. Leave me the hell alone. Everybody at TPSA right now said, well, you're not Charlie. Well, you're not Charlie. Well, you're not Charlie. No shit, Sherlock. I know I'm not Charlie.
Starting point is 01:32:55 But I'm trying to do my best to continue the guy's legacy. Can you stop doing that? They have a lot of pressure on, and if I have to sit there and see who to me seems more reasonable? Who to me seems more? I don't know. And yeah, I don't know. And listen, I don't want even my own enemies, okay, even my own enemies. I'm not, I'm not intimidated by enemies to have. I'm not intimidated by people who agree or disagree. It doesn't do something. It doesn't do a lot for me. I'm not a guy that sits on X and reacts to everybody that says negative things about me.
Starting point is 01:33:31 I have fun with it. Hey, Manak this. Hey, thank you for the marketing. Boom. We have a massive download day of the apps yesterday and it's like, you know, guys are scheduled. Yeah, like right here. I cannot believe. Seriously, who is paying for this? What is this? $48,000 per minute for 30 minutes. And I'm not even $48,000 for 30 minutes. On Menect is 48 per hour. But I said, thank you for promoting the Menect app. I've gotten multiple calls due to your marketing gift for it. You're the best, right? We'll have fun with this because we believe Menect is a way for you to get a hold of people. And by the way, I don't know if people even know. I get paid $350 to a half a million for speaking gigs. I don't want to be a speaker. I don't want to go on the tour. I don't want to
Starting point is 01:34:10 go on the circuit. But we do two, three a year, and if it's something that we want to build a relationship, we'll entertain it. It's not something we want to do. We run in companies. But going back to it with what's going on here, if Candace is that confident with all the research and everything has, go face off, have the conversation, finish it off. And by the way, you know what I would actually, you know, what I would actually do if I'm TPP USA? I would actually encourage Candace to come with somebody. Like, bring someone with you. So let's just say Candace wants to bring a lawyer
Starting point is 01:34:46 or another person that's in or whatever it is. Have her bring somebody else as well. Because if it's going to be team and team and let them have the conversation. But according to what we just said right now, it's not going to be happening because she's just going to be live streaming and react into it.
Starting point is 01:34:59 Or they could just change the date and say, oh, okay, you want to play this game? I'm going to not be available. or tell us the day you're available. We'll change our calendar. How about that? My assumption is she does not show up. Because how could she?
Starting point is 01:35:14 She doesn't have the receipts. Do you think if she says any day, any time, TPSA changes it? It says any time, any time in the next two weeks. You pick the time and date? You think she says yes? So what does any date anytime anywhere even mean? No, no, no, no. You didn't know what I said.
Starting point is 01:35:30 Sure. TPSA goes back and says, okay, Candice. we're willing to do it any time here in Arizona, pick in shoes, in the next two weeks, pick the date and the time, we'll give it to you. Do you think she says yes? I think she would. Or else it's over for, or else people.
Starting point is 01:35:50 I think she has to do it, right? At that point, they're forcing her hand. If you give a two-week window, that's a 1,000% you have to do. If you say anytime, any way, and we say, all right, you pick the date and you don't honor that, your credibility. What do you think, Tom? I agree with that. If they came back and they say, okay, anytime, any place,
Starting point is 01:36:11 then she's got to pick it and she's got to show. So this kind of goes into this one, something that happened to us last week. So I get a call on a Saturday. We're going to dinner. I think we're going to Eddie V's or something. We're going to dinner. And I get a call from this guy named Eddie,
Starting point is 01:36:25 who's a nice guy. He's coming here. I've been on a show before. He's a Muslim guy. He runs a YouTube channel, a good-sized YouTube channel. Nice guy. Million plus subs.
Starting point is 01:36:32 And bring him over to the house. We sit down, we have a conversation together, and he tells me about, you know, his beliefs, and he meets my chef. We cook him a meal. We had a good conversation. And then all of a sudden, he says, hey, I saw Sam Shimon on your podcast.
Starting point is 01:36:48 I'm here with a guy named Uthman, if I'm saying the name correctly. He would like to come on, since you had him on, he'd like to come on and have a conversation. I said, okay, so let me call Sam and see what I can do. So I call Sam, Shimon. Sam says, absolutely but he says there's no way they're going to do it he's going to cancel if they found
Starting point is 01:37:08 that I'm coming and then he says but why don't you tell them if Eddie and Usman are come in let me bring a guy named Avery I don't know who Avery is Vini automatically says I know Avery he's a beast yeah and Vini says I know Avery and then this guy says this and this is when I had to call Eddie and then by the way they're like then I get on a call it's me you him and Eddie and when he found that it's Eddie and Avery's like, well, why don't we just do it me and you and, you know, why don't we just do it? I said, no, if you're going to have a debate because it started off with Sam. I already called Sam. Sam already agreed. I'm going to fly him out. Let's let's have the conference. No, well, I have to fly out anyways. Well, I said, if I
Starting point is 01:37:49 would have to change you, you would have came. But I have to fly. Well, let's just do it another time. And in the next day, this video is played. And I call Eddie, Rob, if you want to play this clip. What are PB&D, whatever he is, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:02 Let's call you out right now, right? Somebody sent this video to him. If you're honest, then bring
Starting point is 01:38:09 Ebran, me, anybody else, any Muslim die and give us the same time, the same way by ourselves
Starting point is 01:38:18 on your platform. He won't do. And me and Eddie were supposed to go on there against two whoever he picks. And he backed
Starting point is 01:38:28 feedback live of having me because he was saying another brother I'm doubt yeah
Starting point is 01:38:35 yeah I got Eddie another brother went on with Eddie right much Eddie didn't actually go on Daniel and
Starting point is 01:38:43 Jake went on right but the reason he's because they said you cannot attack them and they're going to attack
Starting point is 01:38:50 you you're just going to answer right so I said so wait a minute that I can't attack you can't attack
Starting point is 01:38:58 them they can attack you. That's what he just said. Yes. So I don't even know who this guy's at the time. I've seen the face because I've seen the clips, but I don't know the name. So I see this video and I call Eddie. And he's like, you know, where are you? I said, listen, FaceTime. Who's with you?
Starting point is 01:39:16 Me and Vinny. No problem. I said, I want to get your take on this. I said, this interview that we did with this guy. I said, he just said, oh, no, no, Patrick, but that was a week ago. That's not a new interview. That's okay, great. But I want you to listen to what he said
Starting point is 01:39:30 for you to know why we can never do anything together because I don't do games. And then I played for him. When I played for Eddie, it's FaceTime. You're sitting right next to me. How long was this pause when I say, did we ever say that he can't say, go back 10 seconds, Rob, if you don't mind?
Starting point is 01:39:49 And by the horrible editing. Horrible editing. Why would you play the music? Pause right there, right there. To drown out the lies. Exactly. Another brother went on with Eddie, right? Eddie didn't actually go on two other brothers
Starting point is 01:40:00 Daniel and Jake went on right but the reason originally that they didn't want me on is because they said you cannot attack them like they're going to attack you you're just going to answer so that's what you call a liar when I have Eddie
Starting point is 01:40:13 watch this I said Eddie is that true and he said no I said Eddie is that true five seconds he's looking at me he's waiting he says no that's not true I said I will never have this guy on here because I don't play those games
Starting point is 01:40:25 you're going to go out and question or character that we said something like that, you're a liar. And I was willing to have him on to sit down and talk to Sam and Avery. I don't know why he's scared of Avery and Sam. You know why? I don't know why they're. I don't, I've never talked to Avery.
Starting point is 01:40:39 And I'll tell you right now. And I'll tell you right now. Avery and Sam sitting here or sitting there. Again, with that guy and bring another, bring a third person, everybody will let you talk. You will be destroyed and they're scared. And they're scared, Patrick. Petrified.
Starting point is 01:40:57 Because why, if you're, if you're going to talk to talk, if you're going to talk to talk, bring it. If you know, if you're that knowledgeable in the Quran and the Muslim world in Islam, come and sit with two Christians with Sam and Avery because they know at the end of the day they're going to destroy them. Because when you mention stuff like, like I mentioned about calling for nonbelievers to die and to, they're going to come up with an excuse. Even though, and let me just say this right quick, Quran, 47, 4. when you meet the disbelievers in battle strike them in the neck until you have subdued them it's calling for violence against I have a list Tom number one
Starting point is 01:41:33 and I got into an argument with the guy on on my neck when I said the prophet Muhammad was Aisha was met her at six had sexual with her at nine there's no how are you going to defend that how can you argument they make is but at that time that was not considered pedophilia guess what then why wasn't Jesus Christ doing it
Starting point is 01:41:51 why weren't why weren't those people Why were the disciples? Why were people there doing it? That's a horrible, horrible excuse because sleeping with a nine-year-old, I don't care what time it was, it's wrong. So going back to the point, there's no, Pat, when you know you're going to get difficult, when you know you're going to fight Mike Tyson, guess what you do? No, no, no, no, no, you lied.
Starting point is 01:42:11 Pull a muscle in training. Yeah, yeah, no, no, they'll get destroyed because if you're so, like, believing in your, in your, and your Islam and everything, then go and sit with them. And we'll let, by the way, like we were going to tell them, no, no, you can't. talk just let the Christian guys no that's that's such a lie and it's such a sorry pussy way to freaking try to be like no it was pat
Starting point is 01:42:31 like you would ever do that like they can argue you can't argue like who who's gonna believe that with your 1,600 views on next don't don't play that game with us bro you're scared you're petrified to sit with Sam and every because they know the truth and they're going to destroy you so
Starting point is 01:42:47 talk and you miss your opportunity I don't know why they shiver with Sam I don't get it is it because if he knows their book inside and out? I don't know. I don't know why they shiver with Avery. I don't know why they do. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:42:58 Listen, you know, I don't know. I don't know why they do. And by the way, Muhammad Hijab responded to Sam Shimon being on the podcast. And he said, tomorrow night, Tuesday, he gave him like 24 hours. And it sounds like I'll do the debate, but not tomorrow. So maybe, maybe Muhammad Ajab, who's a very heavyweight, very educated guy, PhD, background, very well read. Maybe he would be willing to sit down with Sam and have the conversation at a time that works. for both people's calendars.
Starting point is 01:43:25 We've invited him before as well. But I was very disappointed on the way he handled himself, especially when he said the word that we said, you can come. And if you believe him, the fact that we would say something like that, these are exactly what you're getting. That's the point that I wasn't there for this phone call,
Starting point is 01:43:41 so I'm not even going to participate. It happened. I believe it. I believe it. The fact that you would even preface, yeah, you have to sit there and take them arguing at you. And you just have to smile. is so antithetical to everything
Starting point is 01:43:55 that you've ever done in the history of this podcast. You believe in debate. What are our four core principles? Capitalism, leadership, debate, and entrepreneurship? Is that not us? Yeah. So don't we encourage debate?
Starting point is 01:44:08 So this spewing of lies like, yes, you invited me on, but I have to sit there, take it like a punching. Who would sit? Nobody, that's such a dumb. Think about, think about how just on its surface. How stupid is that?
Starting point is 01:44:18 Hey, listen. They're going to be able to say their points, but when you talk, shut up, And we're going to stop you because you can't fight. Who has ever said that in the debate as a setup? Does that sound like any normal person would do? It's a lie. This is a couple of different stories now of what you call like fake tough guys.
Starting point is 01:44:36 Oh yeah, anytime, anywhere, any place? Yeah. Sorry, I'm actually busy that day. Bring it. Like bring it. So Candace, God bless, whether it's these hijab crew, whatever they got going on, they're bluff artists. They're all bark, no bite.
Starting point is 01:44:49 Oh, yeah, this is the date. Yeah, dude, I actually have a doctor's. appointment that day, my bad, bro. So they talk like lions, but they're paper tigers. Let's go to the next door here, Rob. If you want to play the Elhan Omar, Elhan Omar says Trump supporters
Starting point is 01:45:06 might attack Somalis. That's what she said here. To Jake Tapper, who called her a white woman probably. Go ahead. It's a practical effect on the Somali community when the president says things like that. I mean, it creates fear.
Starting point is 01:45:22 And there is a possible danger that a lot of the people who follow the president have exhibited violence in many cases, especially in my case, whenever he has said something about me that is derogatory or says, I'm a threat to the country. I have gotten death threats. There are so many people that have been incarcerated over the years that have been encouraged by the president's words. And so there is fear for Somalis, not just in Minnesota, but across the country, that some of these people might attack and harm them. Okay, Vinny. Thoughts. Well, one of the guys caught, well, first of all, I'm going to get to the part of me just not being happy with what bothers me the most about this entire Minnesota Somalian fraud, terrorist, Ilhan Omar, Waltz, the mayor, Rob, if you could find that video of the mayor eating food in a restaurant, with them to show how much he loves Somalis. He looks like he's going to throw up because he's playing with the food and trying to bury it.
Starting point is 01:46:27 And he's like, oh, he's that one of the biggest beta males bowing at George Floyd's casket, speaking and worshipping them because, in my opinion, they're ill. By the way, Pat, this is him eating at a Somalian restaurant. Does he look like he's enjoying this meal? Play this video. Look at this. The other guy on the right is like, you don't know what you'd eat. There's probably bugs in there.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Look at this guy. He's playing with him burying it. You're not eating that, bro. Is he a white guy? He's white. Rob, he's a real one. Wait, Jacob Frey. Is he really white?
Starting point is 01:46:57 He's not Muslim. No, he's a horde of white. He's white, white. Stop it. I'm dead serious. He's the one that tries to speak Somalian. To them. He panned us.
Starting point is 01:47:08 Are you doing a Jewish? Jake Tapper thing or? No, no, no, no. This is the guy from the Democratic Party up there. His job, Pat, is to work with the Muslim community, specifically the Somali community. and to ensure that they vote Democrat. That's his job. So what he's been doing, Pat, is out there pandering, trying to talk Somali, going to photo
Starting point is 01:47:29 ops like this, eating their food at cultural events. And guess what? There are people that have worked with him and said, what we ended up with was far worse. They know about the fraud. They know about what's going on in the insurance frauds. And they're like, hey, we befriended these people. We went to get their votes and everything. And now suddenly we're implicated because we're photographed with them.
Starting point is 01:47:49 I mean, we're places with them on what's going on. But that's his job. He's a Democrat operative who's like the ambassador to Somali. Go get those votes. Okay, so let me read this and I'm going to come to you, Tom. So what did Amar, Elan Omar, know about the billion-dollar welfare fraud case in her Minnesota district? Rob, this is a New York postal. Is this the, she's been asked about it?
Starting point is 01:48:08 Yep. Okay, go for it. Why the fraud got so out of control in Minnesota? I think what happened is that, you know, when, when you have these kind of new programs that are designed to help people, you're oftentimes relying on third parties to be able to facilitate. And I just think that a lot of the COVID programs that were set up, they were set up so quickly that a lot of the guardrails did not get created.
Starting point is 01:48:39 She's blaming the guardrails not being set up for the billion dollar fraud that happened there. Can you, like can you wrap that around your mind? Pat, and by the way, one of the men that was caught in the feeding our future best was a Somali restaurant owner named Abdi Fata Ahmed. He ran safari restaurant, Minneapolis. The spot claimed that they were feeding thousands of kids every single day. The numbers were so wild pat. Like, if it showed up, people would be stacked. Like, you wouldn't be able to fit in the room.
Starting point is 01:49:08 So investigators said that the restaurant pulled in millions through the program, and almost all of it was fake. The money was pushed through friends, family, shell companies, luxury purchases, and overseas accounts. and as we're finding out to some of these terrorist groups but if you think about it all these people everybody that's involved
Starting point is 01:49:25 Tom what bothers me the most and I know you have a lot to say about this topic is these people you're coming from a third world country okay and the fact that you're being ungrateful to the greatest
Starting point is 01:49:38 country in the world that's bringing your ass here and you don't show up you don't speak the language you don't assimilate all you do is bash the country that you that is opening its doors to you
Starting point is 01:49:48 you bash the world You bash the president, you bash the followers who are us, okay? And then you steal a billion dollars and then you're going to sit there and be like, well, you guys should have set up the guard rolls. No, no, no. And I love, listen, the old Trump was back when he's like, no, it's garbage. They're coming from a country that doesn't have any freaking government. And you're going to come here, show some gratitude.
Starting point is 01:50:08 And I said this before the podcast started. You know what, Ilhan and your whole freaking Kim Walls and all these people? If you'd shut your mouth about the president and you didn't talk all the crap that you've been talking for all these. years you might have slipped under the cracks but you keep talking at the freaking the beast and guess what the beast turns around and looks at you and now I hope to God they have all these people that get accountable
Starting point is 01:50:28 and I have a feeling she's involved Tim Walz is involved and Mr. eating the bowl of whatever bugs that he was eating he's involved Tom so Joseph Thompson is the U.S. attorney from Minnesota and he's been facing an uphill fight he's been faced
Starting point is 01:50:44 with obfuscation people refusing to cooperate but this is so widespread and by the way they're covering for each other people are covering for each other but it's been so widespread just in September he got eight defendants
Starting point is 01:50:59 who took 400,000 each of a skim from a payout account that started at 21 million and 21 and went to 104 million and 24 based on qualifications now what a qualification is is kids with autism well the Somali community
Starting point is 01:51:14 and the ones that he found within that community were paying small amounts of money to people to enroll their kids as autistic in it, and then they set up a legal address of the clinic, but then they covered the windows with newspaper and silver foil, and there was no clinic going on in there, but they had the enrollments of actual humans, actual kids, and then they were getting an amount per kid coming in from the state and indirectly the U.S. federal government. Makes sense? So, oh, yeah, there's 400 kids in here, and the money's just flowing into this address, but it's not there. And so Joseph Thompson's
Starting point is 01:51:47 been fighting this uphill fight. He then got a 24-year-old defendant late this summer, 900,000 fraud proceeds, that some of it went to the Maldives, and some of it went for a $64,000 Dodge-Ram pickup that he got for himself, because, you know, he's stealing all this money. He needs to pick up to carry it around. Of course. It's not it. And then Minnesota House Speaker Lisa Demuth, who is a Republican and like the last standing Republican in the Minnesota House, not federal, but Minnesota House, she said, numbers we're seeing says that this billion is just the tip of the iceberg
Starting point is 01:52:22 because of all the programs that are involved. And some of these programs were not emergency stood up under COVID. They predated COVID. So Omar talking about, well, they're new programs and guardrails aren't in place. That blames the program, but what's really happening
Starting point is 01:52:38 is this is systemic. This is systemic. We don't want to, we don't want to just wave off all Somalis in Minnesota, but there is a large number of them that are collaborating together basically as their own organized crime Somali mafia that is skimming from our federal government and you've got this this this poor you know U.S. attorney from Minnesota Joseph Thompson who's up there trying to fight it and then pointing out we just think this is the beginning. So they have pirates in the water
Starting point is 01:53:10 that take over ships and then they have fraudsters on land taking billions of dollars from taxpayers and then they talk shit about the country that let their asses in and they won't assimilate. And it's so bad they are getting prosecutions even though they don't get witness cooperation. Weird. And then they marry their brother. Okay. For citizenship. Got it. Okay. Everything I need to know. That's it. Tom, that was a very good breakdown. I'm going to try to simplify this and maybe you guys will have been finding out of him as a point here. Here's the question in mind. If there was an election and there was a binary option, This is it.
Starting point is 01:53:41 This is it, guys. You have Donald Trump or you have Ilhan Omar. Your answer to that question tells us all we need to know of who you are. If you happen to choose Ilhan Omar, we got it. Well, let me tell you who Ben Stiller picked. Can you pull up who Ben Stiller picked? Here's what Ben Stiller said. Ben Stiller, Traffic Thunder.
Starting point is 01:54:05 Okay? Yeah. Mr. what was a gym called, Rob? the... Globo Jim. Globo Jim. Here's what he had to say. Somalis are not garbage. Immigrants and refugees from anywhere are people like you
Starting point is 01:54:18 and me. They should not be demonized. This country is built on the backs of people who have come from other places. It's what our country is all about. Blue Heart. Sure. Well, Ben Stiller, respect to you. Let me give you a counter argument. Not all immigrants
Starting point is 01:54:34 are the same. No. Okay? Not, you're Italian guy who came here to have a better life or your Irish immigrant or your Jewish immigrant or even a Mexican it's a little bit different than Somalians who come here on fraud and fake paperwork and marry whoever and then send the number one disbursements to al-Shabaab in the world which is a terror organization it's a little bit different guy so back to my earlier argument about Donald Trump versus Ilhan Omar the the example couldn't be more stark one is America first first. One is Somalia first. Legit. One is a conservative. One is a progressive Islamist. That's pretty obvious at this point. One loves capitalism. One loves socialism. One marries supermodels. One allegedly marries a brother. Good for you. One genuinely loves America and wants to make America great again. One is doing this to the benefit of Somalians. So to me, it's not even close. It's not even close.
Starting point is 01:55:33 And guess what? Have you been to Somalia? It is garbage. Let's be honest, how many people do you know? No, but I'm in Minnesota. I'm going on vacation. Where are you going? Somalia. No, and guess what? And this is what pisses me off.
Starting point is 01:55:47 My mom and dad, my grandparents, his father, the whole crew, we came here the right way. We came. They all learned freaking English. It wasn't the best English, but they learned their language. They assimilated. They fit in with the community. They gave back. They paid taxes.
Starting point is 01:56:02 We went to school. And we look what the byproduct is. Look what the byproduct is. You're going to come here and take. it and steal, bro, and steal and scam us and then talk. That's what infuriates me. Have some gratitude. You, oh my God. 4,000 people voted. Watch this. Did Olhan Omar know about the Minneapolis fraudulent fund? Almost 60%. Yes, she knew 58% but watch her. Yes, she was complicit. Yes, she was involved. Four percent said no. No. 96% said that she knew she was complicit and she
Starting point is 01:56:34 was involved. It's almost unbelievable to even fathom, Pat, like she didn't, because think about it, who knows the connections with the donors and this and keep you and what was that word? The donors? Donors to a campaign.
Starting point is 01:56:48 Oh, easy. Just wait, baby. Can I give some free unsolicited advice to the ill homars of the world? Yeah. And the Rashida Talibs and the mom donis and like the entire free Palestine is the most good. This is free advice, unsolicited advice.
Starting point is 01:57:04 at least fake it at least fake that you love America at least bring an American flag to a rally maybe you don't burn the American flag maybe you learn a little Abla English maybe you fake that you love it here in America maybe you don't like have a rally put on a fake hijab put on the kaffia burn the American flag maybe you don't like
Starting point is 01:57:31 blatantly hate America maybe Maybe you're like, you know what, guys, I think they're on to us. All this death to America, death to Satan, burn the flag. Maybe we've oversold our hand here. Maybe we fake it. But they can't even do that. She could have answered that question. You know, I think you're speaking about a few people that may have manipulated a federal program.
Starting point is 01:57:55 And those people need to be brought to justice. The Somalians that are in Minnesota, they appreciate the assistance are giving at this time of their life. They appreciate it. and they should follow the program as written. And I understand what you're trying to say, but I think to, and then go after it, say to push on all the people is wrongheaded. The people that have done wrong need to face justice.
Starting point is 01:58:14 But these programs are helping people that need it. That's all you have to say to fake it to your point. Or just say, hey, listen, we are so grateful for America to take us in. We're so happy to be here. This is the greatest country in the world. We love it here. We want to assimilate. We want to be a part of this.
Starting point is 01:58:28 Instead, scurt, you hear. America is a white colonizer racist. this is it's a 1619 project everything about america's it's like then why the fucking stay go back to simalia home girl they don't even the hide of the attitude of we're here we're like wajahad and all these people are like what are you going to do we're here we're queer have no fear and guess what if you are in the muslim community and guess what i have we have muslim friends we're not we're not going to play that game but you know what what type of look is it when people this is
Starting point is 01:58:54 your opportunity you come to america you go to freaking minnesota let's let's see how the muslim community is going to treat that that place you're not speaking English, you're stealing money, you're sending it to fucking terrorists. Like what, what are you doing? And then you wonder why people are kind of scared, like, wait a minute, but these people are taking over towns. They're buying mosque in Texas. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:59:14 Look at England. Look over the pond. And they're content creators, their peers, they can't even admit what's going on. And when I, we don't get into the freaking Pakistani rape gangs, which it's disgusting. By the way, there's a clip, Pierce Morgan, with this lady that's on their podcast, on this podcast. And they're going back and forward. Rob, I don't know if you have this clip or not. It gets pretty heated. I mean, it gets to the point that
Starting point is 01:59:36 Pierce was, you know, said, I will never invite you back on and blocked her, I believe, afterwards. I don't know if you heard about this or not. Yeah, he blocked her afterwards and she posted it saying that I got blocked by him. And they had a massive, massive exchange that went back and
Starting point is 01:59:52 forth. Rob, I don't know if you have the highlight. There's a... That one above, Rob, it was a good one. I think this is the one, Rob. Okay. I'm going to send one to you, Rob. If you want to look at your text, this is the one to play and write the Rob. You have this one. If you want to play this one, it's a back and forth on what's happening. And I think at the end, she just flat out is like, no, I'm not changing my position. I'm staying here. He did not like this year. So let's play this clip. Go for it, Rob.
Starting point is 02:00:24 I apologize for nothing. My statements and my actions have endured the test of time. And Pierce, Since you cut me off, let me finish. You've been in national television for 20 years, and during that entire time, England has only gotten more Muslim. For 20 years, you've got the Boston, you can say it's a faggot or to even call out the rapist Muslims. Pierce, you're not uncensored.
Starting point is 02:00:46 The truth is, you have, you have been complicit with the rape of England into its submission. It's not only on Kier Stammer, it's also on you, on the police and the courts that have covered up for their crimes. Absolutely. And I'll see what everybody.
Starting point is 02:00:59 else is thinking. England is better off without all the Muslims. And that goes the same way to the United States. We can solve all of our problems if these Muslims are sent back to their Sharia nations. Because they're not here to asylum. You think there would be no problems.
Starting point is 02:01:14 You think you'd have no I apologize. I mean, let's, I mean, let me explain stuff to you. She gets extreme, but at the end of the day, is she lying about Kirstarmer and all the Pakistani rape gangs in England? Who is the Ed Sheeran? sat down with uh what's his name robbie uh theo vaughan and he goes how is it in england he goes
Starting point is 02:01:34 everywhere is sketchy now you can't go anywhere this is ed sheer and saying it and it's like how much more lying and i love peers but with all due respect enough of this nonsense of all i love curry and all this nonsense okay it's happening the UK is finished you guys are finished the only beauty about this country is is our first amendment backed up by the second amendment good luck coming with that shit here they have over a hundred some sharia courts in england in england okay and nobody's saying that shit so when we talk about these stories about somalia we try to talk about this she is extreme but guess what at the end of the day pat she's not wrong if you're not coming here to assimilate once you're the majority let's see how that
Starting point is 02:02:17 attitude changes and don't play that oh no no let's talk let me give you my side i don't want to hear that shit we're christianation our founding fathers founded this place on christianity and we're open to everybody. Practice what you want. I'm praying for you. And I don't mean you have done this before. I pray for people to come to Christ. Everybody, Muslim, Buddhist, Jewish, everybody.
Starting point is 02:02:37 At the end, when Jesus comes, every knee will bow. That's my message to people. I still love you. I still pray for you. I love my enemies, which is the hardest thing, Pat, for me, is forgiving people and praying that they come to Christ. It's so hard because your enemy, you want to hate your enemy. But these people, no, they're going to come in, they're going to come in.
Starting point is 02:02:55 Look at what happened in Minneapolis. Look at England. Look over the pond and tell me that they're not furious. That lady that we showed Pat on that phone call, crying. People are getting stabbed, walking around. It calls for them to get stabbed in the Quran, and you're going to play that. No, we're a loving. The moment of the majority, it's a rap. It's not going to happen here, period.
Starting point is 02:03:14 I actually respect it for going on. What's this clip, you want to play this clip? Because this is her continuing. White Christian commits a heinous crime. I don't assume that every white Christian is the same. Why would you? Pears, you can take the Muslim out of a terrorist nation, but you cannot take the terrorism out of a Muslim.
Starting point is 02:03:32 And give me one example of a Christian committing a terrorist attack right now. Well, let me ask you there. When the UK and the United States illegally invaded Iraq in 2003, I waved to campaign against that. So what would you say about that illegal invasion of a Muslim country? Muslims are killing Christians in Nigeria, Pierce. I didn't ask you about Nigeria. I asked you about Iraq.
Starting point is 02:04:00 Iraq? Well, repeat your question again, please. Do you agree that we illegally invaded Iraq in 2003? I don't think she's right enough to understand your question, peers. I don't think she does. I don't think she wants to understand it. But in 2003, in my opinion, illegally invaded Iraq, a sovereign country. A million people died.
Starting point is 02:04:19 It created ISIS, which then wreaked mayhem for two decades, and was a stain on my country. and on the Prime Minister Tony Blair, who I think should have been held up in a court of law over what happened under my name and the name of the British people. But do you care about that? Do you care that a million people,
Starting point is 02:04:39 including hundreds of thousands of Muslims, were killed in a war in Iraq, which, in my opinion, was fought on an illegal false pretext that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, which he didn't, it turned out. Pierce, in 2003 I was four years old, I cannot change what happened back then. No, I asked you for your opinion.
Starting point is 02:04:59 I asked you for your opinion. And they bomb a terrorist country, they won. That's the reality. You're not grown a year since then. The Taliban, ISIS, they all have to the Middle East. But then they're obsessed. Then they're, yes, I'm honest. I'm honest.
Starting point is 02:05:11 And I am the American dream on steroids. I have worked my way to the top. You're not the American dream, Valentina. You're not the American dream. You're the American nightmare. You're somebody fermenting hatred. Yeah, and he continues to saying, you know, When you lose, you will never be able to come back here again in Texas.
Starting point is 02:05:30 But if you win, I will bring you back on a show so we can talk about it. She's bold. She's fearless, but she's going after these guys. She needs to be careful, but she needs to be careful. By the way, she's very talented. She used to come on my show from time to time. We know her brother. She's very outspoken.
Starting point is 02:05:47 Who's in the national guard now? So here's the challenge that she's going to have. She can't ever backtrack on those comments. She went full scathing, full scorched earth. It is what it is. Here's my response. Because I too get some criticism. I too get some critique. I don't know if you've noticed this by the online chat. I don't know if you noticed it. But here's my position. I love Arabs. I enjoy Arab culture. I enjoy Arab culture. I was out last night at Art Basin with my Saudi friends. I have Egyptian friends. We know one of my closest friends here is Lebanese. Okay? Persian culture. Assyrians, Chaldeans. There's Mizrahi Jews who are Arab Jews. I love the culture, the hospitality, the warmth, the food, brother, come on in. My challenge is the Islamists. The Islamists who want to practice political Islam, Islam, Sharia law, put everybody in a hijab, shout death to America.
Starting point is 02:06:40 Wow, they're living in America. That's the problem I have. So some people can, you have one of three options. You either say, nope, I am against these people. I am Muslim. I am against these people. This is not who we are. Okay.
Starting point is 02:06:53 Speak louder, please. you can kind of pretend that there's nothing going on here with this culture war or this potential conflict, let's just call it that way, or you could just go full on death to America. But at this point, the cat's out the bag. You have to pick a side here at this point. You're either, yes, I love America, I want to be here,
Starting point is 02:07:15 or you're shouting death to America, or you hate America and you want to burn America down, and they're going to find you, buddy. Canada's Wonderland is bringing the holiday magic this season with Winterfest on select nights now through January 3rd. Step into a winter wonderland filled with millions of dazzling lights, festive shows, rides, and holiday treats. Plus, Coca-Cola is back with Canada's kindness community, celebrating acts of kindness nationwide with a chance at 100,000 donation for the winning community and a 2026 holiday caravan stop. Learn more at canadaswunderland.com. All right, you got that out of your system.
Starting point is 02:07:54 I don't know, do you want to weigh in on this? No, I think she's got a point on what she's saying, and I think she's relentless about what she believes in. I think Pierce, he's been on TV for 30 years. Can you go look at the UK population 30 years ago versus today when it comes down to Muslims? What has happened from 1995 to 2025 to 2025 Muslim population in UK? what has
Starting point is 02:08:21 relation in UK from 1995 to 2025 to 2025 what has happened from 95 from 95,000 to 4 million today 4xed in 30 years during Kistan being there and by the way guess what? You can keep saying
Starting point is 02:08:41 I don't see an issue, I don't see anything happening here no problem. Keep saying that but then when it gets to the tipping point you can't get rid of this many people off an island UK is an island how are you going to get rid of them they're permanently there
Starting point is 02:08:57 there is no way of having them leave you they're yours and UK becomes a complete different country and then you move to Florida and that's what you do okay is you know what I'm going to come feel safer at Florida than where I'm at okay I totally understand why
Starting point is 02:09:13 someone like Pierce wouldn't want completely shocking unfounded allegations out there. I understand he's trying to narrate. But is it me? Does Pierce seem kind of soft on this issue? You think? He seems a little, well, you know. Why do you think, though? That's my question. I'm not on peers. What does he live? He lives there. If he starts being honest, they're going to kill him. He lives there. Do you think that's his concern? Adam, why else would you think Pierce is the type of person that is scared to say what is an amazing human being? And guess what he's very smart? He's not stupid. He's not.
Starting point is 02:09:46 So you're saying he's playing scared? I, Adam, if you live, if you live in the middle of Harlem, you think you're going to be walking around talking shit about all the people that live in Harlem, the majority that's taking over. It's not like Pierce is walking the streets. What do you mean? He has like 90s secure, no, but Adam, if they want to get,
Starting point is 02:10:04 if somebody wants you, they're going to get you. So you're saying that he's playing scared? I think so. All right. Let me do one story. That audience is not going to f around, bro. CNN bets on a wager platform, Cal She, striking exclusive partnership to inject odds making into
Starting point is 02:10:18 coverage, Rob, if you want to go to this. Cali had a pretty good day. They raised a billion dollars and their valuation went to $11 billion overnight, pretty much. They struck a deal with Calci that will inject a real-time prediction market. Digital a move that stands to rewire
Starting point is 02:10:34 how one of the country's largest newsrooms interprets the future. Calci which builds itself as the world's largest global prediction market company that the agreements mark its major news partnership, the company is seeking to become the most authoritative source of information about the real-time probabilities of major cultural and political future events, according
Starting point is 02:10:56 to CON, co-founder Terrick Mansour, Mansour, that newsrooms traditionally focus on explaining what has already happened is happening in the present. With Kalsh's data flowing into CNN through an interface that updates automatically that journalists will be able to help audiences interpret what may happen more accurate. in the future. Tom, your thoughts about the story? Well, there's a big difference. First of all, congratulations to the guys at Cal Street. What a big day.
Starting point is 02:11:24 There's a big difference between polling and prediction. Polling is you go out and ask people who are you voting for. And from that poll, I try to make a prediction. Well, it looks to me with 1,100 likely voters in Tennessee that EPS has about
Starting point is 02:11:40 a 4% lead, 5% lead. And what have we seen in the polling the last couple of elections? None of it Right. Atlas Intel, Rasmussen, standing above the pack at the top, and then everybody else, really sad shape. But what if I ask you a different question? Who do you want to win the Super Bowl? You would have said the New York Giants twice. Obviously, against the Pats. Right, exactly. But who do you think is going to win the Super Bowl? Yeah. And you would have said, well, I kind of, you know, probably the Pats.
Starting point is 02:12:09 I'm with the, I'm blue. I'm New York football giants, but, you know, I think Pats are going to win. guess what that has proven to be more accurate and that's exactly what a prediction market is and so calcium allows people to make these markets they go in and they make their prediction on it not who they're for but who they predict and their accuracy in the elections and in sports has been amazing and so now harrietin and CNN are going to use them hey what does america predict versus what is a thousand people polling say and what do i predict out of that poll. It's a little bit different, and it's proving to be more accurate, and you will see millions and millions of dollars because people can make a prediction a dollar at a time. It's like a little ticket, you know. I'm going to put a dollar on that. That's my prediction. And if I'm right, you know, I get something back. But that's what it's all about.
Starting point is 02:13:04 And it's new, and it's proving to be very accurate from the last elections and strong stuff. Adam, your thoughts. Look, Tom's obviously following this more than me. I'll just say one thing. I said five years ago, I don't trust pollsters. I said the only thing that I do trust is Vegas. Do you remember me saying this? So I've been shouting that from the rooftops
Starting point is 02:13:25 because how often do the pollsters get it wrong all the time? So now we see this CalShe thing pop up. We've been following Polly Market for a while. You know, the Quinnipiac, I think they do a good job. Pew does a good job, like real clear politics. All these pollster type things, ABC Fox, this. can all sort of be swayed and bought and purchased. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:13:46 If you send somebody to lose like Vegas does, then you're going to put your money where your mouth is. You're not just going to. Remember the, during the, the 2024 election, out of nowhere, Kamala was winning Iowa by like 15 points. They're like, what? How did Trump's up six? And then it turned out the Iowa, Des Moines Register, whatever was, and then the lady had to step down because she got it completely wrong. So this allows, I guess...
Starting point is 02:14:14 By the way, it's actually... Yeah, I do. Rob, can you run a poll? Who do you trust more? Polsters or Vegas? Just a very basic... Basic poll to run. Can I make a prediction?
Starting point is 02:14:29 I mean, I want to know what the number's going to be. I'm actually curious on with you. I think it's going to be massive. I think Vegas. I think they would trust... Because Vegas is money's involved. Polcers are just, hey, I'm a political guy, and I want to make people think that it's...
Starting point is 02:14:42 So exactly what I just said? Good work. That's what I'm exactly. I'm saying Vegas. I don't even want to look. Yeah. No, I mean, it's a Vegas, 90, 90 to 10, 87 to 13. Good luck getting 90 on any sort of pole.
Starting point is 02:14:56 Well, those 14% are probably pollsters. How about we run a poll, Rob? I have a feeling. I have a feeling we could get a 90% if I run. How many guys love Adam? Go ahead. Run it. Run a poll.
Starting point is 02:15:06 You guys better say you love Adam. Say yes. No, sometimes. do yes no sometimes you want to do binary? I'll take the sometimes out. You know what I'll take it whatever you want to do you want to say yes or no? No I'd like you want to do something I think it should be yes or no. Just put yes and no right yes no and one and him last night no put yes and no
Starting point is 02:15:28 just put yes and no because that's what he wants. Do you love that all just cut it off after the first void if I get up vote? Yes no let's see what people say here. By the way Pat how much yes Adam? By the way you'd be surprised he doesn't want to look Hold on. Come on, guys. Uh-oh. Let's go. Come on, guys.
Starting point is 02:15:44 Come on, Vegas. Let's go, roll the dice on us. Vegas. A thousand votes. 50. Let's go, guys. That's what I'm talking about,
Starting point is 02:15:51 by the way, that's surprised him. My mom's watching, guys. My mom's watching, my mom's watching, guys. Are you kidding?
Starting point is 02:15:58 By the way, that is the biggest shocker. Wow. Adam's going to have the greatest weekend ever. Yes. You guys have no idea how much you made his day. Come on. It's almost in 50-50.
Starting point is 02:16:08 Give me a vote, guy. I'm going to vote right now. you vote for me. Tell me you love me. Is that going to go, will it flip? Will it flip to 51? Yes. We're going to flip the vote and tell me right now. I don't even know how to vote. Get on the damn 15. I guess it's right. How do we even trust these polls? I trust Vegas. Oh. I don't almost 50 50. Guys, I appreciate you. Even to the haters, I love you as well. Let me let me wrap up with one story before we finish this up with Ritz Carlton. So a couple days ago, we have our offside meeting at Ritz Carlton. And you guys got to realize I'm a big fan of Ritz Carlton. I can't
Starting point is 02:16:39 say how many of our clients we've encouraged to go and hire it's carlton uh for their standards of excellence training and we did this year by the way i loved it and how great was that training but i won a trip to the you won the trip i haven't gone yet but yeah but you won the we even ran a contest to send you to the best ritz i'm going which we can't tell you where but we're sending you to place you won the contest it's a rig system i'm telling you how let me tell you how great was the training who i forgot the girl's name and i'm an idiot for not remember, it was such a, the stories and the things that the Ritz-Carlton does to unreasonable hospitality to another level.
Starting point is 02:17:14 That's right. Well, unfortunately, they don't longer have that. So that's Horst-Schultz starts Ritz-Karlton, 1983. He takes the company from 1990, having 50% of retention with their employees. He increases it to 20%. People no longer quit. They love working at risk. Experience is incredible. 2001, he steps down.
Starting point is 02:17:35 1998, I think Marriott buys them. I think the dates are something like that. Then the next two guys that come, and another CEO comes in in 2001, becomes a CEO, Simon Cooper, and he stays for nine years. And then the next guy comes, Herf Humler, and he stays from 2010.
Starting point is 02:17:49 I think he's even a CEO till today. They call him the number four employee. It was a number four employee in 1983 when Hearst started the whole concept of service. Incredible. Well, this last week, we're doing a meeting, off-side meeting strategy session at the Ritz in Fort Lauderdale,
Starting point is 02:18:03 which we have done. I love doing my meetings there. But let me tell you what happened this week. I didn't like it. So I like to host it in a meeting that I regularly hosted. Meeting room? I like a meeting room over there on the side, on the third floor that I like to go to. Anyways, so I come in in a morning and they put us in a big room, massive room.
Starting point is 02:18:23 I'm thinking of myself, why are we in a massive room like this? I don't want to be in a massive room. I want the room to be close because I put sticky. Rob, you've been in the rooms before when we're doing strategy. We put all this stuff when we go for six, seven, and eight hours strategize. And by the way, this meeting went from 7.30 till 8.45. It was the best meeting we've ever had.
Starting point is 02:18:40 It was an incredible meeting. But I walk in and I'm in the room. Lights are down. I want a little bit of light to come in. I'm like, I didn't choose this room. He said, well, they just called us, told us we had to switch because I said, we booked that room a month ago. Because we come here regularly when we're doing a, well, no, they just moved
Starting point is 02:18:56 this to this to this. I said, let me talk to the manager. So I go outside to see, talk to the manager. Guy comes out, and this guy named Juan comes up, who is a fan of the podcast. He says, Pat, I told them don't move your room here. I told them you're not going to like it. I said, why did he room? He says, I don't know why they moved you, but they moved you.
Starting point is 02:19:11 I said, who's the manager? And this lady who's helping us out, I think a Russian lady, very nice, very sweet. I said, can I see the manager? Yeah, he's Chris. I see Mathieu speaking to Chris, so I get on the phone to talk to Chris. I'm like, Chris, what's going on over here? And he's just being very quick. Yeah, we changed the rooms.
Starting point is 02:19:26 I said, yeah, but we booked that room. Yeah, but we have to change it. Yeah, but we booked the room. He said, well, there's nothing we can do about it right now because everyone's already being used. So I said, we've got to figure something out because I can't do a strategy session here. I'm waiting upstairs.
Starting point is 02:19:38 It's 8 o'clock. The meeting starts at 8 o'clock. Anyways, I'm waiting for the guy. 10 minutes goes by, he's not coming upstairs. Nobody's coming upstairs. This is Ritz Carlton. This is the director of operation. The director of operation, let me get his name correctly
Starting point is 02:19:51 on what this guy's name is. The director of operation, his name is, let me give you the exact, exact name. And while you're looking, this is the Ritz Carlton that had an employee that found a teddy bear that a person left and did a photo shoe and they're their motto. That's who they used to be. Chris Lozano is a director of business operations at this place.
Starting point is 02:20:12 So I said, I'm waiting. 11 minutes goes by, he's not upstairs. Two minutes goes by, 30 minutes not. It doesn't come upstairs. I asked another lady, sir, I've only been here for two months, two days. I said, okay, let me go downstairs. I go up to the front lobby. I want to know what's going on because I want to change the room.
Starting point is 02:20:28 I said, where is Chris? He's in the back. I see an employee coming. He's talking to another lady in the back. He knows I'm at the front. So eventually three minutes into it, I said, Chris, you're going to stand, wait and make me, there's no customers in line. It's just me.
Starting point is 02:20:40 I said, Chris, you're going to make me stand any longer? Before he come and tell me what happened here? He comes out with an attitude. I said, where's the general manager? I try to talk to the general manager. And so the general manager's not available. Then these two other guys come arrested. Guys, why did you change my room?
Starting point is 02:20:54 I booked that room a month ago. This is our quarterly off-side executive meeting. I can't tell you, but we just spoke. I said, who's in the room right now? He said, well, you know, I can't tell you. I said, I'm going to the room right now. You can't go to the room. So I got damn with me.
Starting point is 02:21:08 I said, we're going to the room. I get in the elevator. We go up to search with my tail. We're going to that room, buddy. I'm going to, they're sending securities running after me. I go to the room. Guess who's in the room? I can't wait to hear this.
Starting point is 02:21:18 Nobody. Stop it. What do you mean, Pat? What do you mean nobody? Absolutely no one's in the room. So what are they saying the room is booked for? So I said, so why? So the guy is not telling me anything, this guy.
Starting point is 02:21:28 So then I'm like, wait a minute. This is what's going on? Yeah. So the room's not used. I said, why did you move me? Not giving me an answer. Then the security guy is standing and keeps looking at Dan. Yeah, because Dan will crush him.
Starting point is 02:21:39 And Dan is like standing there like a pit bull. And I'm like, okay, all right, let's just get focused. We'll go upstairs and do the meeting. They put us in a meeting right next to another meeting. There's screaming shouting match going on right next door to us. For the first four hours of the meeting, all we hear is, We keep saying, can you keep it down? Nothing.
Starting point is 02:21:57 We asked to lower the AC for four hours, six times. Never did anything with the AC. We wanted them to increase it because it was freezing. Eventually, they're just waiting, hey, how can we make this better? All this stuff. I'm like, no. I's got an email right now. Mateo's telling me the general manager finally responded back.
Starting point is 02:22:11 Oh, really? Finally responded back and sends an email saying, I can imagine how busy you guys have been and all this stuff with Patrick Bid, David. And we wanted to make it good. So we asked to extend a 50% discount on the room. In addition, I would like to personally assist you with the future events. Bullshit, Jose Torres. I don't want your discount.
Starting point is 02:22:33 I'm going to pay full price, but you will never see me at Ritz-Carlton ever again. No, really? You will never see me at Ritz-Carlton ever again. Never. And I've done so many events at this Ritz-Carlton, never again, and I've promoted their standards of excellence. You will never see me ever again. We'll go down the street to four seasons or another hotel.
Starting point is 02:22:53 you cannot suddenly cancel the room and not explain why you did that. And have nobody in the room. You cannot. People are hosting meetings that they've been prepared for the longest time and put an room like that.
Starting point is 02:23:03 So, Mattelio, Matti doesn't even know I'm saying this. Pay full price, pay them the whole thing, let them get the money that was so important to them because all I wanted was service and speed.
Starting point is 02:23:14 And we didn't get it. And it's heartbreaking because sometimes when the guy that created the culture that became the best brand, this company was the only company, was the only company that got two customer service awards from the U.S. government. Ritz Carlton's the only one that ever got this.
Starting point is 02:23:29 And then you've got leadership like this, that dude that forget about customer service. Very disappointing. But don't worry, Jose, whatever your name is. What was his name? Jose Torres. You didn't call me that. You could have called me. I was in a meeting.
Starting point is 02:23:41 It wasn't like you wouldn't have got a hold of me. We're going to give you the money. Don't worry about it. We don't want a discount for me. We're not looking for a discount. We want respect. That's what matters to us. And heartbreak in because it is a.
Starting point is 02:23:52 brand. I've been bragging. How many years have you heard me brag about? You know what book I've recommended a billion times? Standards of Excellence because it's where it's Carlton. A billion time because what this Horst founder did, the amount of respect I got for this
Starting point is 02:24:08 guy and the way that they build a company, the way that they would create all these amazing stories for customers that would come in here. Can you pull them out because I want to give him credit, Rob? Can you pull up Horst Schultz? Horsed Schultz. You know what he was known for? He would personally go to offices. He would personally go and visit places.
Starting point is 02:24:24 He would personally go look and talk to customers. He would personally do it. And this Jose Torres guy was too busy to give a call and come check us out and just canceled our rooms? Unfortunate. Anyways, maybe Jose, you need to go back and read standards of excellence. And maybe Jose, you need to call horse and ask him, hey, what could I have done differently in a situation like this?
Starting point is 02:24:42 With a customer, that's a be-back customer. Keep your be-back customers. But unfortunate, folks. I just want to say, what's the way I've learned from you, you're the type of person when you are treated royally and you enjoy a place you will go back over and over and over again
Starting point is 02:24:56 look at what you've done with Casa DiAngelo my friend Tariq he runs over There's a conspiracy thinking I own Casa Diangelo He runs up a massive hip-hop platform Rolling Loud he goes dude I grew up right near Costangelo let's have dinner I hear people he talk about all the time
Starting point is 02:25:11 like your voice amplifies so now Ritz Carlton I have the date here October 3rd 2024 so 15 months ago we had a company meeting. Rob, were you in that training as well? We were all every, it was a company-wide.
Starting point is 02:25:25 Awesome. It was phenomenal. Ladies and gentlemen serving ladies and gentlemen. We took a day and a half off just to do training of Ritz Carlton with this consulting firm.
Starting point is 02:25:33 That was, it was like you, you paid them to bring somebody here to teach their culture. Yes. And then they treat you like that. Endless amount of money
Starting point is 02:25:41 doing this. I took this picture. That's how I remember the date. It's called Fundamentals of the customer experience. Yeah. there's four four pillars this is what service attitude consistency
Starting point is 02:25:55 and teamwork yeah how would you grade those four things in your experience customer experience service attitude consistency team one at a time i will give a 10 with one because one was very good to us the russian lady i'd give her a nine she was helpless but she was trying to help us but i give a zero to the management team i give a zero to the management team. And that's the problem. The problem isn't the people at the bottom. The problem is the leadership, how fast you move. You know, we have unhappy customers. It happens a lot when you run a good company. And the first thing I want to do is I want to talk to the client and see what it is. Because when I talk to them, I want to know if this person is being unreasonable
Starting point is 02:26:36 because they just need attention, or is this person truly a customer that's a real customer that I want to be able to retain? Once I'm like, 90% of the time, we screwed up. We're like, no, no, we got to find a way to make this good are you sure we're good no we're good you're hearing from me I cannot believe you call me Pat I get I deal with customer because it's so important and sometimes when we miss it you have no idea how upset I get on myself that we missed
Starting point is 02:26:58 it I don't like it because it's not our standard yesterday we're doing the lead master and one of our clients says I cannot believe how great you treat us everywhere we go we take so much pride in that we don't get it 100% of the time just like Ritz didn't here but Ritz's mistake was
Starting point is 02:27:14 you just had to come up stairs not let the customer wait for 13 minutes and it was at the low it's not vini there was nobody in the front lobby when i came in zero so it's not a traffic season very disappointed but this is the this is the ritz this isn't the hills you don't think you don't think you don't think you don't think the hotel motel holiday in look this is the ritz whether they do or not it's disappointing because i have a lot of history with ritz and uh you will never see me at the for Lord of Del Ritz ever, ever again, unless if somebody else was hosting an event that I'm supposed to speak or go to, but I will never, ever put an event there ever again, extremely
Starting point is 02:27:56 disappointed. Actually breaks my heart because I love going to the same place. I don't want to go to a new place. Trust me. I only like to go to the same places because trust is important to me. Respect is important to me. We sit in the same place. We like the same waiters. We tip very well. We take care of our people disappointing. So, Jose, you will get your money. You don't need to worry about that. And we don't want to discount. We don't need the sympathy. All we want it was respect and service. And unfortunately, we didn't get it. Guys, to everybody else, going back to it, Christmas, hat, Merry Christmas, get a gift for somebody, share it with them, put it on, go to work, represent, make sure everybody knows that you're not afraid or embarrassed to say the most magical
Starting point is 02:28:35 words, which is Merry Christmas. God bless. Have a great weekend. We'll do it again next week. Take care, everybody. Bye-bye, bye, bye-bye. Thank you.

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