PBD Podcast - Candace Owens | PBD Podcast | Ep. 304

Episode Date: September 14, 2023

Candace Owens is a New York Times best-selling author, American conservative political commentator, activist, founder of the BLEXIT Foundation, and podcast host. In 2019, Owens hosted The Candace Owens Show on PragerU's YouTube channel but left in 2020 to host Candace - a show on The Daily Wire. She gained prominence for her conservative views and outspoken commentary on various social and political issues including Bud Light's recent Dylan Mulvaney marketing scandal, support of Donald Trump, and outspoken criticism of transgender identities. Owens also has a new docuseries on Netflix, Convicting a Murderer, which criticizes the hit 2015 show Making a Murderer, based on the murder of Teresa Halbech and the convictions of Steven Avery and Brendan Dassey. Protect yourself against Central Bank control with - American Hartford Gold https://offers.americanhartfordgold.com/patrick-bet-david/ Text PBD to 65532 or call 866-939-6984 Watch Candace's new true crime docu-series "Convicting a Murderer": https://bit.ly/468s3CS DailyWire+ Welcome to the new home of The Daily Wire, Jordan Peterson, PragerU, DW Movies and, coming soon, animated and live-action content for kids. DailyWire+ is the streaming platform that’s building the future you want to see. Vault to the top. Be your best. Feel your best. Achieve your best. Vault Brain drinks will unlock your brain to help you be your best you. Try the new Vault Drink today! www.vaultdrinks.com Connect With Experts On Minnect: https://app.minnect.com/ Visit our website: https://valuetainment.com/ Subscribe to our channel: http://bit.ly/2aPEwD4 Subscribe to: Adam Sosnick - @ValuetainmentMoney Vincent Oshana - @ValuetainmentComedy Tom Ellsworth - @bizdocpodcast Want to get clear on your next 5 business moves? https://valuetainment.com/academy/ Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQL Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Today's guest, the great Candace Owens, who just recently launched a documentary called Convict and a Murderer. I watched it last night, which was pretty epic in this morning. And then she did one before Biggest Lie Ever Soul. She wrote a New York Time Best Selling book, very hard to become a New York Time Best Seller

when your name is Candace Owens, but they had to do it. They had to do it because Results Forces You To Recognizer called Blackout. She co-founded Blacksit, a long former Tucson police officer, Brandon Tatum in 2018. In 2021, she joined Daily Wire, where she hosts a show, hosts Candace, a political talk show. And by the way, you've seen her all over the place. Candace, thank you so much for being on the podcast. Thank you guys for having me. This is awesome.

Yes, it's great to have you on. So Candace, this entire time, we're sitting there saying, how do we start the question? What do we talk to her about? Who were you in high school? In 10th grade, I'm actually curious. Gosh, that is a totally different Candace. I would say I was probably, who everybody was in 10th grade.

You know, I was definitely just trying to figure out who I was. I was skipping classes. I was always inth grade, you know. I was definitely just trying to figure out who I was. I was skipping classes. I was always in good classes, though, but I was skipping them. I had a boyfriend who I was obsessed with, you know. And so we were always skipping and going other places. Definitely not conservative.

But I would say not politically inclined doll, which is important to state, because people have kind of shifted the narrative and said I was like a radical leftist or something. I just didn't care about politics, never voted, wasn't following it at all. But yeah, always loved communication, excelled at English and writing and things of that nature.

And yeah, I mean, teachers would probably say I was a bit of a smart-ass. I'd be surprised if I said that. No way, they call you smart. I was always consistently a smart-ass. Really, I can see it candidly. ass. I'd be surprised if I said that. No way, they call you smart. I was always consistently a smart ass. Really, I can see it candidly. Absolutely, I can see it. What do you think your fellow classmates are saying about you?

Like, I can't, I didn't see this comment or I totally saw it comment. Totally, I think they would say the opposite. Yeah, and my parents, I've always been very sure of myself, even when I was wrong, do you know what I mean? Does that make sense? Like I have a two-year-old scholar. Like most women.

And he's, I have a two-year-old toddler son who's got that same characteristic where he's always very sure of himself, even when he's completely wrong. So, I have a- Were you to a 4.5 GPA? Were you to a 4.2 GPA? No, I was like the 3.5.

Okay. Cause I just didn't care. Got it. And that was 3.5 without trying at all. Were you playing were you an athlete cheerleader cheerleader, okay, big high school or small high school? 2000 people graduated in my high school. So relatively big more English less math. Did you like science heated math and science? Okay, I loved English communication. So kind of makes sense. I'm doing an education When I graduated I majored in journalism in English. So words always just came very easily.

To me, I loved to read, which was my doob habit that I developed from the time I could pick up a book. What you read back then? What were you reading? I was actually reading all fiction. My mom was a part of some weird book club where she just get like Nora Roberts and Dean Coons sort of, you know? And it was just what I was reading.

Obviously, the books were bigger than my head when I was younger, and it was just what I was reading. Obviously, the books were bigger than my head when I was younger, but it was just what was on our bookshelf. So I read through everything my mom read through. I was very into Harry Potter, forget it, like racing home to try to, yeah, to try to beat my mom to read the books when they came out, like very into the wizarding world of Harry Potter. Have you ever met him?

I haven't met him yet yet. I like that. Meaning like you plan. I plan to meet Harry Potter. Have you ever met him? I haven't met him yet yet. I like that. Meaning like you plan. I plan to meet Harry Potter. Nice. Yeah. Maybe we can arrange something. Well, Hogwarts action.

Well, can this go on? Well, what house would you be in? Did you guys read Harry Potter? No. My thesis. That is deeply upsetting to me. Every person should actually read it. Really?

It's a really good book. She's really good. She's a good book. I mean, it's not, didn't become this whole thing as it was a bad book. I'm telling you, it's really good. What house are you? I, that, you know what?

I don't. Wow. This is a big deal. Yes, with indoors. Yeah. I feel like I would be like Harry, like it would be like between Griffin Doran's Litheran and then I would be able to pick my house.

That's a reference to that watch, Sherry Potter. But I asked me, do you know anything that she's talking about? But people that are watching this show do, because Sherry Potter was sensational. And they should place you in a house. I want to actually know. That's what they're gonna do.

Yeah. Can you ask them what house they put in? What house they would put him in? In a house they would put him in. That's very important. If you let the guests get in, hold on, I don't know if you let the guests, but they're gonna guess.

What do you guys think? Gryffindor or Slytherin, they're gonna say Pat, there's more house. No, there's more house. They could be. But I'm saying they're gonna guess what you got. What you guys think? Gryffindor or Slytherin, they're gonna say, there's more house. No, there's more house. They could be. But I'm saying they're gonna pick out of those two main ones. He has to be Gryffindor. Now I have to go.

What do you do? What do you do? Could be Ravenclaw. Oh, Ravenclaw. Now you're just blowing his mind. Yeah, I got to hear it. I got to hear people. Rob, why don't you, first of all, why don't you do this?

Do a poll to see what percentage of the audience has read the books. If we kind of get an idea on red or watch the movie. I think it's both counts both counts. Okay, both counts. Books are amazing. And Candace got your question. So, so you know, high school he asked your high school, you're getting slither in. What's slither in is the bad? Is the bad one. But they're good. Which is the yeah, yeah. There's good people in there. So Candace in your, you school, if Pat asked, you're getting older, at what moment was the political thing in your head? At what moment were you like, I gotta kinda get involved?

Recently, I guess it's not that recently anymore, but not until Trump came down the escalator in 2015. And I think it's because it was Donald Trump, he made everybody, even if you weren't politically inclined, you suddenly had an opinion. Yeah, for sure. Couldn't look away, you suddenly had an opinion. Yeah. For sure. Couldn't look away.

Yeah. So I didn't have, there was no political inclination to my house. My parents were not politically engaged. My grandparents, who I grew up for, a good portion of my childhood, in their home weren't politically engaged. So I would say I came from a very apolitical family, but of course left leaning because you're black and you're supposed to be a Democrat. So that's just kind of the cultural poison thing that goes on.

And in 2015, Trump came on the escalator. I remember thinking like, I don't want this guy to win because not because of any reason other than he's an entertainer. So to me, it was like if someone like Hulk Hogan was running, I would just be like, go know him, he didn't feel appropriate after Obama was in office. And then I watched a speech that he gave in Dimondel Michigan and he made this very interesting elevator pitch to Black America. And he was kind of just listing through all of the actual

factual statistics in Black America of like, this is the poverty rate, this is whatever it is. And at the end he's just like, I mean, try something different. What do you have to lose? And I was like, I have a pretty good business pitch. He's like saying, like, I'm the greatest person everybody's saying, try something different. What do you have to lose? I was like, that was a pretty good business pitch. Like, like, saying, like, on the greatest person everybody's saying, look around you.

You've been doing the same thing, Democrats 50 years, nothing's gotten better. Why don't you just try something different? And after I finished watching it, I like, remember turning on whatever I was normally used to watching, MSN, CNN, and they completely pretended that he attacked black Americans, called him a racist,

and he gave the most racist speech, and black Americans were all living in poverty, and it was just such a blatant lie that I was confused about why my trusted sources were lying. And then I kind of started wondering what the racist side was saying, and I just got curious. So River just talking about high school.

You left high school, you graduated high school, and you went Rhode Island, not exactly a bastion of conservatism. No, it's not. And then from there, you went to work for Vogue magazine, which was even further left than the University of Rhode Island. So, where were you, like on political spectrum and just thinking, maybe you didn't think of it as political,

but where was your thought? A liberal. When you left high school, then to Rhode Island, and where did you come to where you are today? Well, I was liberal, but I wasn't crazy liberal. Like, you're never gonna find any old picks of, I had Republican friends, you know,

it was just a different time. I think we were allowed to kind of be like, oh, like, I'm left leaning and right leaning and you can be friends. That was okay back then. That was totally fine. Nobody actually really cared. It was college.

And I would say I was liberal in the sense that if you had just asked me generally speaking about things like Islamism good, yes. Just everything, just the checklist of, I had a public school education, you know, and I had a public education. So I would have said yes to this, yes to that gay rights, all of these things, but not

forcefully. There's no old images of Candace wearing a pussy hat or marking. It just doesn't exist. I just didn't care. Very disappointing. More of an answer than I was. What about Obama? Did you vote for Obama?

No. Straight up. No. So it's so funny. Everyone says that there because I just didn't care. I mean, I was, I shouldn't say that I didn't care. I was so happy when Obama won. Yeah. Because it was black because he was black or because I just didn't care. I mean, I was, you know, I shouldn't say that I didn't care. I was so happy when Obama won. Yeah, because because he was black because he was black or because he cares.

I mean, very simple, both reasons because he's black and because he's very much flaming. And I think you're saying Obama wears a pussy hat. I think it's a short. I think it's wonderful. And for those reasons, I remember sitting in my room, on my college campus and crying that I have a bum. Like, okay, this means America is moving forward. I didn't feel it.

I didn't feel it. I didn't feel it. I didn't feel it. I mean, you couldn't not feel the Obama effect in O.A. It was kinetic. Yes, we can. Of course. It was 15 years ago.

How would you at the time? 15 years ago, you were. How was I? I was in college, right? I was in college. I remember being, I think it was my sophomore year. About 20 years old, you ever take? Yeah, so 2008, he's become president.

You're, cannot believe this has taken place. And then the evolution into really get into politics doesn't happen until 2016. Yeah, yeah. And then boom. Yeah, I went to New York. I was working at a private equity firm. I was just like fully trying to get myself out of student loan

debt. So it was all about working for me. I was never an idiot. I was always about wanting to get my finances right. I've never not had a job since I was 14 years old. My grandfather was very much impressed upon the Owens. You have a job. You work.

And so for me, I just wanted to get my financial life in order. And coming out of college, I had 150K and student loan debts, no money from my family. So it was the pressure to make money, was what my focus was. I didn't really care about politics at all. 150K, we're going to school.

Rhode Island, you are, can you believe that? 35K a year, and then, of course, obviously, at the state loan from South America. Yeah, there was like $37,000 per year. All right, here. For a random public from South of Miami. Yeah. There's like $37,000 per year. All right, here you go. Rob got the polls for you. What does this mean?

I know. Wow. Griffin door. Griffin door. Griffin door. They think your brave. That's the house Harry Potter's in. Okay.

They think your brave that you have good values. You know, this could be a biased. I want to say this could be biased poll because they're watching your show. Yeah, the following. I would be curious with the, you know, Wow, second though is Slytherin. Second that's pretty crazy, right? That's pretty crazy.

I thought they'd go raving claw, but they went Slytherin, yeah. So they definitely think you have a capacity for evil. They think that you could twang. Yeah, I was, but you are definitely, definitely, no huffpuff. I know I know I know I knew half poet be like. Okay, so let's go into some let's go into some uh uh uh uh uh current events and then obviously we'll talk about the documentary is what we're going to put the link below folks for the documentary Rob. If you can make sure chat description everything

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He just has a personality problem. And personality matters in politics. You can't describe it. There's an it factor that people have. And it doesn't matter. Left or right, by the way, like Bill Clinton has the it factor. I mean, there's just the about Bill Clinton that even when you know he's lying to your face,

you just like him. He picks up the sack because the phone he plays it and you feel good about Bill Clinton. So true. Like Arseneu Hall, when he did that, you know, you do like this. I'm like, Oh, God, I know I'm supposed to hate you. Even when Hillary was running, I was like, yeah, I kind of like Bill. I actually agree. I voted for it. Crazy. Yeah. I was like, I'll deal with it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What is that

tell us to because when Larry, Larry Alder was here this weekend, but I my trainer asked me says who do you have this week? I said Larry Elder Tuesday. I said Candace on Thursday. He himself is a former wide receiver African American. So he's a great. He says what is this the P.B.D. podcast African American week? But when Larry was here we were talking one of the things we talked about is that I'm interested in is what are the top five most important things to look at? Like in baseball, they used to say it's home runs or doubles or steel stolen bases or this and now they're going on base percentage. In every sales company, you want to find a number one most important behavior.

In content, you need charisma. You know, able to keep someone's attention, storyteller, witty, entertaining, value, all of it, you have all of that. So you need those types of qualities. What do you think are the top five things you need to make a president? Where if like, you know how Roger Stone said back in the 70s, 80s,

he says, I think Trump's gonna be a president one day, right? He said this 40 years ago, before he even happened, and then he goes on Oprah Winfrey's like, well, you're talking a language, are you going to be one day? What do you think those five things are? Because the Santa's has an incredible resume. Yeah, the resume doesn't mean anything.

It doesn't mean anything. And unfortunately, people hate to hear that and to accept that as a truth where it's like, well, he's done all of these things. And this means that he should be present. It just doesn't work like that. The number, I would almost say the number one thing is you've got to have the effector.

You mean, and it has to do with how you warm the crowd, how the crowd responds to you. Trump has it. I mean, when I met him, I can't explain it. He makes you feel like he's a blue collar person that's been driving garbage trucks his entire life. The way that he, I'm serious. I'm not kidding. Like the way he communicates with people, you do not feel that he's this elite, untouchable,

billionaire that comes from a wealthy family at all. And when he looks at you, he wants you to feel seen. He's very funny. That's the thing that I think gets lost is how hilarious he is. I mean, he breaks the ice. There's an awkward moment when you're with him. I remember walking into the oval office the first time that I met him. I was so nervous. And one of the worst things, I love you. I watch you on Fox News, all this stuff. And then he says,

you know, and I want to say also, you're very beautiful, but I don't want to get me to, I don't want to get you to. That's very funny for the president of the United States to say, in the oval office, at the height of the Me Too movement, it's just funny. the president of the United States to say in the Oval Office at the height of the Me Too movement, it's just funny. And so he just is able to relate to people in a way and I try to tell people, he has a magnetic personality and there's nothing that the media can do to take that away because if he gets in front of people, he's going to be able to unleash that. And DeSantis has the exact opposite personality.

So I saw DeSantis speaking at an RGA before he was running for president. And he was speaking amongst a group of his donors that just got him elected. He barely got over the finish line against Andrew Gillum, who by the way has charisma. Yeah. Has the effect. And crack. There's no reason. Yeah. I don't know. I broke that story. But it really is me. I broke it on my gay sex party. Yeah. Love how that story came to me. It was you're breaking all these stories. That was like you're doing a thing. Right. Right time in sanity.

But yeah, he almost lost Andrew Gill. And there's no reason that they should even be close. Of course, Ron is just so much better. But what happened? Ron has a personality problem. The risk. He looks uncomfortable on stage. He kind of was, you know, snaps at his donors.

He seems like he's like angry at them. And that might be his personality. But then he's trying now, as he's running to force this different personality where he's like smiling and it makes me uncomfortable. And so I just don't think he's found his rhythm and his personality. So you can find that. You think you can find that. You think personality can be found if you don't have it? No. Okay. So, it factor is one. It factors one. What else would you put? Like, one of the things we talked about is the new direction of where we're going.

Do you think the message of anti-establishment sitting with voters, that they're sick of it from both sides left and right where Ross Perot was able to be an anti-establishment guy, where Trump anti-establishment, and Vivek is kind of positioned himself as an anti-establishment, even RFK's kind of positioned himself as an anti-establishment and Vivek is kind of positioned himself as an anti-establishment. Even RFK is kind of positioned himself as an anti-establishment. Do you think choosing the enemies, choosing the right enemies also factor, then do you look at money like if you have FU money gives you an edge where you don't need to ask money for anybody, what else would you say it is? Well, instinct, I think, is a huge part of it too.

Being able to read your base and actually being able to respond and edit yourself if you're going the wrong way, which is something that also Ron has said and says and have. Like, I was having all that money. Right. He was the, he was the blessed candidate. Yeah. All the donors were giving him all the cash. They were jumping off of the Trump ship.

And why did it not matter? Because nobody cared. He had very bad instincts. You know, he had, I was saying, I was calling it early. I was like, the team around him is horrible. The influencer circle is horrible. I think that the vape is correct when he says that you should run your presidential campaign like a startup.

And when you talk to any of the Trump family members, I particularly, I'm thinking of Laura and Eric and Don Jr., they'll tell you how they literally had no idea what they were doing in 2015, you know, because they had never done this before. So they were kind of editing and following their instincts and listening to people's feedback. So he kind of ran the campaign like a startup. And when you're in startup mode, which I'm ripping this from Vivek, as we had talked about this on my podcast, you know, when you don't have a lot of money, you really think about how you're going to spend that, not a lot of money that you have, right?

So you're way more focused, whereas if he said when you're a company and you've got too much money, a lot of it gets wasted. Super PAC, all the sudden money that gets wasted on stupid stuff because you're like, somebody's telling you, pulling you this way and saying, oh, you have this much money, you've got to run this on comms and all of this stuff

and Trump, which is like on his Twitter. And that was his comms. What else would you say, so. I'm actually, the reason why I won your insight, because I think you flirted with the idea of eventually running. I think you're eventually gonna run it. I think you're gonna be formidable, and I think if you do,

it would be so entertaining to watch you under the bait stage. Just for selfish reasons, I wanna see it. But, and I'm sure you've thought about this, because you have the witty, you have the kind of like, you know, the instinct as well, you know, how when they're trying to corner you, you're doing a Congress instinct as well, you know, how when they're trying to corner you, you're doing a, you know, you're out there,

they're trying to pin you in this one thing and you come over here and you call this guy, you tell him, I didn't say that, I know you still give your message and you stay on point. While all this shit's happened at the same time, you can still keep that voice. What else would you say? So, so far we have it factor instinct.

I wrote down naivete and element of Tom Brady talked about the naiv fact that you don't know how dark it is. You're just like, I think I can be the greatest. And in the startup phase, what else would you add to it? Yeah. So I think that is part of being able to read the bases actually understanding what the issues are, understanding the people. And this is where the Democrats just fall apart.

You know, they just become such elitists. I mean, and by the way, I want to be clear, not just Democrats, Republicans as well. I mean, when I was watching the Republican debates and they're sitting here trying to make me cry for people in Ukraine, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Have you looked around America yet? Do you really think that this is what the people at home are going to respond to, perpetually telling them that they have to care about another nation more than their own backyards, that they should be caring more about what's happening in Ukraine and Chris Christie trying to pitch it and you know, Pence trying to pitch it and Nikki Haley, you know, we need to be the police officers of the world.

We can't be in police service. We can do both. No, we obviously can't. Like, have you walked down the streets of Los Angeles? Have you walked down here? We clearly obviously can't do both, right? And so having, I think, that the courage to stand on something that doesn't feel establishment popular

or mainstream media popular, but that you understand is what people are actually feeling. And you know, I'm very much a person that from the very beginning has said, F.U. Crane, you know, I stand on that. And I would have said it a thousand in the debate stage. Like, I would have let them all do their little pitch in the cries, tears.

Because how this gets into the... Why if Ukraine is what I... Yeah. Because rich men, North or Richmond, you know what I mean? Because Richmond with an origin, because people literally can't put food on the table. You've stopped people from working in America. The average person is struggling to even be able to afford gas, groceries. You have people that are dealing with an influx of crime and illegal immigration in their cities,

people whose daughters and kids are being raped and killed, that woman that was horrifically killed in Arizona, going on a run by an illegal immigrant. All of this is happening in our country right here, because if you told me as a mother that I need to care more about what's happening in the neighbor's house, while my kids were suffering in my house,

I would look at you and tell you you were crazy. Obviously, of course I'm gonna take care of my own house first. And if I have something after my house is in perfect order, right? And then you say to me, hey, they need help, that's just common sense. But if my house is in complete chaos, and my kids can't eat, and my kids are struggling,

how dare you tell me that it's wrong to want to care for my own first? And that's exactly what the American foreign policy is amongst the elites. But Candace, our house has never been in perfect order, as you know, this in America. So how do you grapple with the fact that, when do we get involved?

Like, if China... You shouldn't. Anything, anyway, like, it's non-interventionless. So China attacks Taiwan. You're good with it. I'm... What kind of, like, foreign policy policy do you think we should even have zero whatsoever in the world?

Everything that we're doing in the world right now is we're suffering from not being able to mind our own business. This idea, you know, post-World War II in inter, regarding international liberalism, that it was hour and hour. We must spread our ideas everywhere and everybody must accept them. Maybe people don't want to live, like Americans want to live. Have we ever thought of that? Like, maybe people in Iraq and Iran actually are not interested in the way that we live.

Maybe people in Saudi Arabia are not interested in the way that Californians live. And by the way, if you're looking at what's going on in California and LA, does it seem like maybe people should be embracing American values and principles at this moment. Like, if you could buy them and purchase them right now as another country, you probably would be wanting to go the other way. Hence Uganda and the laws that they're putting in place trying to keep this LGBTQ agenda that Americans are funding all across the world. Why are we funding that?

Why are we funding saying that girls in Pakistan need to learn about transgenderism? This is the foolishness that our tax dollars are going toward. And people, oh, that's because international liberalism, these are great ideas. No, actually, these ideas kind of suck, actually. It's suck. And it's arrogance. It's not even American arrogance,

because the average American doesn't think this way. The average American doesn't think that children in kindergarten need to learn 75,000 genders. We aren't even, we're not impressive academically. Kids are getting systematically dumber in America. in kindergarten need to learn 75,000 genders. We aren't even, we're not impressive academically, kids are getting systematically dumber in America. We have nothing to show for all of the money that we're spending all around the world.

Our country is in full decline. So I actually want to be clear, it's not just FU crane, it's F everybody until we get our house in order. So nothing, you don't want to be in wealth. So China attacks Taiwan and the semiconductor chips were relying gone and that's gonna be gone in 96% of the products that China

of manufacturing right now in China were apples manufactured in China and they go through that mess, it's okay, it affects your total fine if- Not theinguish today, I'm foreign soil. Zero. No, not one American life would be a- So then how do you, so then what would,

if a Candaceans was president today? What would your foreign policies be? What would your approach be with G? What would your approach be with Putin? What would your approach be with what's going on in Iran or some of these guys? What would you do? Well, I mean with Putin, obviously the worst thing that we could have possibly done, which is what's happening now, is folded him further into the arms of the East, okay? Putin should be a natural ally with the West. We have been pushing this fake cold war for way too long. We're not in the 60s anymore.

Putin is not trying to rebuild Soviet Union because of the money. I mean, it's completely ridiculous to think that Russia is the biggest threat. This is just the mainstream media simulation. It's going to be just like the Soviet Union, whereas we're the ones that are actually pushing further into that territory. I mean, it's complete delusion. We're the ones that is putting NATO on everybody's border and pushing an inching further after we gave promises that we wouldn't do that, that we would not expand one inch eastward. Okay. So we're just not being honest about what it is that's even happening over there. We're not being honest about the corruption and the laundry map that Ukraine is and the

reason why we have such a vested interest in it, Biden's interest in it, you know, barisma and everything that's going on. This is nothing to do with caring about Ukrainian soldiers. If you actually bought that narrative that they're worried about the Soviet Union expansion, you're absolutely wrong. You know, they just, they want to expand their own power in that region. And so when Trump was in office, and he sought to have a meaningful relationship with Putin,

so that we weren't pushing him into the arms of China, and China is actually a threat to the United States, yeah, that was the right policy to have. An actual peace policy, you know, that we should be respecting how people want to run their own countries, right? And also trying to have strategic relationships and strategic partnerships with them.

That is what makes sense to me. I believe in national sovereignty. I believe that Russia has the right to run its country, the way that it wants to run its country. I believe Iraq, I ran America, the United Kingdom. I don't want to be, you know, we want to be out. We don't want to be a part of the European Union. All the European Union, these concepts of trying to say to globalize us and say this is how

everybody must think. In America, we can't even decide on how we all want to think. You know what I mean? Southern principles and values compared to New York City and LA is something that can't, we can't seem to make a difference out. Can I give you perspective? Can I give you perspective? I want to get your perspective on this.

So, you know, you, daily wire, I was just with Ben a couple of days ago and we had a good time together. But think about a company, for example, that's built on software we rent, which we all do, right? A company's not built on 100% of software that you have, right? When we build an insurance company, we borrowed a company called IPypline. They are a behemoth of a company,

$2.5 billion dollar company after 10 years of saying no to him, he finally said, let's make it work. I said, let's make it work. And he came and gave me an offer I couldn't refuse. I said, let's roll. Then another one, and another one, I won't name all of them. But my perspective is to say, guys, moving forward,

if you're not one of our product that we're not doing internally, that's it. I don't care about them. I don't, we're not gonna do any business with, I'm like, this is it, this is for them. We're not gonna do nothing, but we're relying on that software. The reason why I'm saying this is, this, we're relying on China, okay. This, we're relying on China.

Cars, we're relying on China. Today, this week was the first time when we got a iPhone 15 that's gonna say, Made in India, which is phenomenal. It's progress. But it's still, it's not made in America, right? If we do made in America, this is a $5,000 phone. This is not a $1,300 or now $2,700 phone. So all I'm saying to you is from it's, and I get it, I get the fact that we spent $100 billion White House finally confirms that they spend $100 billion as White House finally confirms. They spend $100 billion on Ukraine.

And we send $700 a family to Maui, which is absolutely pathetic. And it's been a month already, whatever the timeline's been, yeah, we'll eventually get to it. What do we eventually get to with a couple thousand kids still missing? But that desire to say, nope, that's it.

Nothing, no foreign policy, no need to. But what we're talking about here is we're talking about our involvement in foreign wars. That's not to say that we shouldn't be doing business, that's why it's such a strategic partnership so people that are overseas. Well, I get that, but what I'm saying is he asked the question, if we allow China to attack Taiwan, you're like, nope, we're not doing anything, we're not sending our men over there. I'm not sending a single one. So you're okay if we lose all the manufacturing.

I don't think that's not necessarily going to be the conclusion. There's a lot that could happen in between. There's a lot of negotiations that can take place. This is why you have ambassadors like over there. What I am saying is that if I were present and I'm not, okay, and obviously I'm sitting here giving you the Owens doctrine off the cuff, but obviously you'd have to sit down

and this is why you build a cabinet and you have people that are smarter than you in the cabinet talk about these things. You bring in the best business guys, talk about how you get around this. But what I am saying is that I would not be sending a single American son or daughter to die on foreign soil. So what about money though?

Because I agree with you, we don't need to be involved. I mean, everything that we've done, post-World War II has been a fricking disaster. Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq, now Ukraine. But we don't necessarily have boots on the ground per se. I know there's allegedly people there, but money,

or even soft power or influence. You talked about diplomatic relations. There has to be a little nuance. It can't just be like zero, we're done. I find with diplomatic relations, that's actually what I'm saying, is that we need more diplomatic relations is the whole point, you know, and we need to stop strong

arming and making these dances and sending billions of dollars with no accounting, by the way, and things of that nature. But I think they missed like a couple billion dollars. A month ago, a girl from the Pentagon was like, yeah, we had a mistake and there's six billion dollars. We don't know where they're at. Really?

Rich man. North of Richmond. Rob, if you can pull up this article, because she made a comment, which I think is perfect time to ask her about this. So, US news, no, no, this is great. US news just came out with this article, saying America first, question mark. The best countries in the world according to Americans.

Okay, I don't know who they got these polls from, but again, the annual best countries ranking by the US news, the United States dropped to number five from number one as determined by perception based analysis of over 17,000 respondents worldwide. However, when considering American respondents alone, the ranking improved with the top three countries being UK, they won up eight, plus eight, New Zealand won up six.

And US won up two. The US ranked number two for attributes like entrepreneur spirit, strong consumer brands, easy access to capital, culturally significant entertainment, and being a place people would live, American respondents, also view their country are more favorably in areas such as affordability

plus 38 spots, scenic beauty plus 37 spots, racial equity plus 27 spots, and environmental concern plus two spots, scenic beauty, plus 37 spots, racial equity, plus 27 spots, and environmental concern, plus two spots, compared to global perceptions, Americans viewed their country as less transparent in government practices, minus 61 spots. Wow. Business practices, minus 39 spots,

and less favorable tax environment, minus 27 spots, and income tax environment minus 27 spots and income equality Minus 21 spots so Americans viewed their country. Wow their country. Do you think America is still the greatest country in the world? Do I think America is still the greatest country? I think America has always been the greatest Experiment in the world and the experiment with freedom and experiment in the world, and experiment with freedom. And right now I would say that we are failing. And like I said, our country is in decline. And I think every person can admit that. And many times I ask myself whether or not it's an illusion.

Whether democracy is an illusion, whether freedoms are an illusion, and I think especially coming out of COVID, we really saw how unfree America was and how really it's become a bureaucracy. There's just a bunch of bureaucrats in DC that are running everything. And so what America was supposed to be as established by the founding fathers?

Yes, I think that is the most incredible vision that has ever been brought forward with the American experiment. And that is what I fight for every single day. It's the reason why I get up out of bed because I know that it's possible for us to get back there and it starts with everybody becoming disillusioned. Do you agree with this one guy named Joe?

I think his name is Joseph Biden. I don't know if you know the sky or not. I don't think he knows who the sky is. I think you're right. By the way, we can play clip. If you can play this clip, is it Kirby? If you... Pat, before you pay the clip,

I want to ask you the same question. You're just asked Candace because you're best known for that line that they've said about you. One Fox News born and ran, made it America. You see these polls, you know, UK, I can tell you that UK is not number one based on personal experience. What would you say?

Are we still the greatest country in the world? I say 100% we still are, but at the same time, I'm the optimist. I'm the synergist who's extremely paranoid. Naturally, I mean, start-up entrepreneur, I'm a paranoid guy that we have to constantly fight to keep it together and call out bullshit. The best part about what's going on right now with America is, you know, the number used to be 40 immigrants. Now we have 51 million immigrants.

It's the number one data to look at. When you look at what country is the best country in the world. Why do we dominate the world in immigration? People still want to come here, not other places. For me, if the country is so bad, why are still people wanting to come here? Not other places. For me, if the country is so bad, why are still people want to come here? Not other places now. We've been for a week. Well, it could be because our borders are wide open on the bottom. I agree with that.

You can't get into Japan. They don't care if you're born and live there. But you're never becoming a citizen. But guess what? You got a lot of other options to go to. People stir from the Middle East. They dream about coming to America. People still from Russia, other place still want to come here. China's net migration is in the negative. They're losing people. I think it's because we control, and that goes speaks to the poll that you mentioned

about cultural significance. I think that we dominate Hollywood, we dominate the media, and they have an idea of what America is, and I think probably when they get here, it's not what they thought. So what would be a better country? What have you been? I'm just trying to think of why people

want to get to America, because at one point we were those things. I always liken it to what I thought Los Angeles was gonna be before I got there. I remember my whole life, I was like dreaming to go to Los Angeles. Yes, I was like, Hollywood, oh my God, amazing. And then when I had my first trip out to LA,

I was like, this looks like a dilapidated South American city. Yeah. I would say, let me give you another perspective on this to be thinking about. In America, you still have 50 options. You can live in America and have 50 choices, meaning you don't like California, go to Florida. By the way, Newsom has to answer the question, why under your watch the greatest state lost people since 1851?

And why are they still losing money? Why is it that data comes out, showing the AGI, the top 10 highest tax states in America lost 341 billion dollars of tax revenue and the bottom lowest tax states gained $341 billion. You have to make the argument. So in America, you have options to go different places. I can go to a different region and have to have low regulation.

People in Florida are complaining about the fact that teachers, the teachers who are woke, they're not protected in Florida, great, go to California. To a totally okay with that. So that's the thing about America because it has the Constitution set up the way it is, you can compete, and if you don't like the policies in a state, there's still another state for you. And if you wanna find a way to improve, run for office, do something about it, you can change,

but these things, there's options in America, Tom. I think you wanna say something. Yeah, and this story we're talking about, the ranking, you have to understand how these rankings are done. This is the media putting together this ranking, asking people about 20 questions. What do you think about America for sports, for economy, for scenic beauty, all these things? And then they make the ranking together. Americans did not say, I have UK number one, New Zealand number two, and USA number three. First of all, if I showed most Americans a map of the Hawaiian Islands and I said which one is New Zealand they'd pick one

You know that let's talk about reality, but you understand they make a ranking out of this and then US news Not known for centrist values comes out and says Americans rank no Americans didn't rank They asked they asked a bunch of perceptions and they put together basically a golf score in America ends up in third place. And so I think that there's also things going on like that for the media is trying to find ways to kind of propagate this we ain't so good. And I'm with you in the vision. I have tremendous hope and confidence in the future vision. Do I think that there needs to be bottoming points, like when an alcoholic uncle reaches

the bottom and decides he's going to change? I think countries need those bottoming points. I still think this is the greatest place. I agree that it's the greatest parchment ever produced in terms of American experiment. But I also think that right now we have a ton of issues. And number one is, we can't have our own national media trying to find the good in it. Instead of gleefully talking about a stack ranking, which if Americans had actually spent one day in London,

they'd come back home and they'd be voting. This is where I was going with Candace before he asked me about how I felt about it. Sorry to rant. No, I love that. I was fantastic. I think it's the big spread. I'm totally okay with that.

What I was going to ask is, Joe is being Kirby's being interviewed and being asked about, hey, how do you feel about where Joseph Biden is, where the president is, comments he's making, all this other stuff. And you know, he says the biggest issue in America is white supremacy. What do you think, the biggest issue in America today is? Oh gosh, the white supremacy. That there's never gonna let it go.

There's never gonna let it go. I think I've testified twice in un on hearings where they are trying to tell you that white supremacy is the biggest issue. And you're at the hate crime hearing where you just ruin everybody. You fact check everybody in real time. Jerry Nadler, everybody was like, you've had everybody's stun, which was amazing.

And people haven't seen that go, too much. And that's infuriating because I remember, I said in my congressional testimony, if I had to make a list of 100 things that were impacting Americans, white supremacy, wouldn't make a list. And I mean that seriously. Gosh, what would be first?

That's a very good question. I can give you a few things that are ranked very importantly, but I don't want to say what I would say is first, but the family unit being destroyed is, if it's not one, it's two. What's happening with families and the governments creeping into our homes in regards to making people believe that marriage is not aspirational. That only happens in a society that's heading towards

Marxist ideologies. And that is literally the Karl Marx doctrine, right? That if the government wants full omnipotence, it has to break down the family unit because the family unit stands in opposition to government omnipotence. So I would probably say every ill that we're seeing in society right now

that what you might think are unrelated are actually all related to destroying the family unit. So sometimes you say, you know, why are they on this climate change thing? And then you go, why are they fighting trans bathroom signs? And what's with this LGBTQ stuff? If you look at, examine all of these issues and you realize what they have in common,

it's that they are attacking families. So climate change, they're telling children don't have kids. Don't have kids. It's irresponsible. The planet's not going to be here for 10 years. Megan and Harry got an award because they agreed to only have two kids. It's about the shrinking of the family unit,

which is, it's totally bizarre. The LGBTQ stuff, if kids are chopping off their parts, they're not gonna talk to our family. They're not gonna talk to our family. There's no nuclear family unit. If it's two lesbians or two gay people, more power to the government. You've got to turn to the government

to even have a child, which is now coming down the pipeline with all of those things. And so, yeah, when I examine every issue that we're fighting, you can see coming down the pipeline with all of those things. And so, yeah, when I examine every issue that we're fighting, you can see that what the government is actually doing is trying to interrupt the family unit. So I would say that's the number one issue. And your friend Larry Elder said the exact same thing. You put that at number one.

He put number one. And then he, I mean, obviously, a guy like that, a powerful, very nice thing. I want to see what else you're going to say. Let me see what else you're going to say. What else would you say? Well, so I was saying, I would put family issues first because every other societal ill follows it. So even when I'm talking about the education system,

and what's going on, and kids are getting systematically dumber across Baltimore, they can't find a single child that's proficient in reading and writing, but talk to the kid about BLM, and they're going to be like, oh, yeah, no, absolutely. They're training little Marxists. The kids actually know nothing, they're essentially toddlers. Like when you see a toddler throwing a temper tantrum,

they don't understand why. And so they just blame rich people, right? It must be because of rich people that I filled in life. No, it's because you literally couldn't pass a basic reading exam. And your life was cut off for you before you even graduated. And but when you look at that, again, it brings you back to the family unit.

Culture is a major problem. Hollywood and culture is definitely up there. But again, reinforcing the breakdown of family, the overt sexualization, the perversion. I mean, that's what I'm saying about not importing American values. That is one of the most, I would say that is the most disgusting thing right now that's happening in America is this the over sexualization of our culture. And I look at other countries and I'm like, no, I'd much rather be importing those values.

Right? What are we exporting right now when you look at what celebrities are endorsing and the overt sexuality, obviously you brought up that I did the whatever podcast. You broke my heart to sit across from a 22-year-old who sleeps with 10 men a night. And her answer is, well, I make money, you know?

I make $100,000 a year. You're 22 years old and you look like you're possessed by a demon because you are. Our culture is demonic. And where would you put feminism on this? Because that's essentially what it comes down to. The family. The monetization and the seclusion and the commoditization.

The feminist is the number one to talk on family, right? I mean, what are they telling women, men, ain't shit. You know, you don't need a man. Get your back, girl, you don't need a man. Get your back. Yeah, that kind of, that's disgusting. You shouldn't be having children. There's a whole culture called dinks on TikTok.

Dual income, no kids. Yeah, they're getting millions, millions of views. My life is so great. This is literally the simulation right now that women are existing under and believing that they shouldn't be that men are crap. And by the way, there's a response to that, which we can talk about.

I talk a lot about masculinity and the client of masculinity because feminists have been bashing men over the head about being men and how men don't have a lot of leaders and people that they can rely on. And so we're just now kind of seeing a response to the hyper femininid, feminization of culture, which is what we are suffering from right now. We are living in a matriarchy. The illusion is that it's patriarchy. It is in fact a matriarchy, everything that we are dealing with right now is because people are emotional, women have power, women are positions of power, and they're women, we are more emotional than men, most women are more emotional than men.

What about someone like Chelsea Handler? So I do another show when I'm not doing PBD. This discusses this exact same topic, right? And Chelsea Handler attacked me, I went back at her. We went back and forth and you know, she's like, this is what an alpha. But you know, I think it's flirting. I think it was hardcore flirting. You know, I'm into those 50 year old Alphanolic drug addicts. You're not married. Yeah, I thought that was that point. You've gone to you've been not so kind and you went to war with Sarah Silverman. The Chelsea handler of these almost 50-year-old women who could have had any guy they wanted in their 20s,

beautiful, smart, intelligent one, have you. You obviously chose a totally different path. And I started snorting feminism in the 100% of their lives. And you consider yourself a tradwife, I would assume. You somehow have this balance of being beautiful, but also intelligent, but also a mom, and also a career woman. So essentially, what's your message for women out there? Can you actually have it all?

You kind of have to pick the tried wife of the career woman. You need to prioritize, yeah. You need to prioritize. And I think the answer for most women is it prioritizes your family. No question, no question. There are some women that I would say, I met this girl and she probably shouldn't be a mom,

right? But the truth is, is that your greatest superpower that you will ever tap into, I have never been more confident in who I am, more sure of myself than since I became a mother, you know, getting married and becoming a mother. Can I give you a little maybe pushback? If you had to choose one,

meaning mother, three kids, Candace Owens, political, punty, daily wife, mother, you'd give it all up just to be a mother. Give it all up to a heartbeat. Why don't women understand that exact same topic? Because it's not talked about culturally,

because I'm considered counter culture, right? That's not mainstream. How are you saying that? How dare you say that? Women are being told that they should be like men. By the way, we're getting the worst end of the deal. I don't know who sat down and had the feminist meeting in the beginning and was like,

hey, so here's how we're really gonna make men lose. First, we're just gonna keep sleeping with them with no commitment, right? We're gonna just, we're just gonna be close. Right, yeah, oh, men are really gonna hate that. We're gonna trickle. And then we're gonna be making out the internet all the time.

We're just gonna put our boobs out there, fight to free the nipple. Men are really gonna hate that. And we're also gonna work our asses off, just like men. Yeah, and then we're gonna say, we're gonna work just like you, and we're gonna bring in the same men are really gonna, I don't know if this is the worst deal ever. I'm like, wait, wait, wait.

Do you mean to tell me there was a time where we got to just be at home and cook and hang out with other women and raise our kids and somebody ruined that, bring me that woman. Yeah, yeah. Do you think, you know, like, and I'm glad with that, men get to compete in your sport. Yeah.

And that's okay, because that's a noble. That's a noble. And he supported that women, feminists. You know how they say, like, progressives, one, you can't stop something as it progressing. Is this the one issue that you think can regress? Like, women would be like, you know, I don't know how many women are progressives one you can't stop something as it progressing is this the one issue that you think in Regress like women would be like you know I don't know how many women are like that's it. I'm going back to the home. I'm putting my apron on

I'm gonna be a good wife. I think I think that's realistic though. I do I think it's happening because what's what we're getting to now is the End of that overt sexualization period and I always say to people I'm like examine the women that are telling you that this is gonna Bring you happiness who are the women that are out there that have told you that this is the way to go? Where are their lives right now? Are they married? Nope. Multiple partners? Yes. By the time they get to Chelsea Handlers Asian, why I always use her as an example is because I was a huge fan of Chelsea Handler when I was younger. I thought she was so funny.

I always watched Chelsea lately. And I bought all of her books and obviously she wrote extensively. She actually wrote about her multiple abortions, things of that nature. So she had a chance at family and she chose against it because she decided that she was going to be young and beautiful forever and she isn't and wasn't going to be young and beautiful forever, right? And so Chelsea Hamlet's perfect example because when you play with feminism for too long and you can't go backwards, it inevitably ends with Xanax and wine and prescriptions

and misery. And now Chelsea Handler is realizing that biology is always gonna trump sociology in the end. And the end biology sits back and it wins, right? Father time is undefeated. Right, it's literally, it wins. And so now she's got nothing to nurture

and what happens is those women then start looking for a social philosophy, a social justice movement that they can try to turn into the sun and dark that they don't have. Right? And like, does anybody really think Chelsea Handler cares about like Dylan Mulvaney being a lot to go into the right bat?

No, of course she does. Nobody could care that much about Dylan Mulvaney. I mean, when I heard her crying on her podcast, I was like, you need a child so bad. Yeah, Adam, I'm like, I'm like, you want a babysit, tell me. She can't ask kids in a month. Question, Candace, last question on this topic.

Where do you draw the line? Meaning, all right, so women should go to high school. Obviously, women should go to college. You went to college. Okay, you go to college for what reason? To get a return on your investment, to get a job. Okay, I get a job. I'm making money.

You said you paid back 150 grand in student loans. I've never did. You've made something your career. I made a mistake. You made a career. Should have waited. Are you saying that women shouldn't go to college? Like, I interviewed this guy Nick Fuentes.

If you know who he was, communications director for Kanye, which I'm sure we can talk about. But he said, women should not go to college. They shouldn't even finish high school, basically. Just stay here about, but he said, women should not go to college. They shouldn't even finish high school, basically, just stay in there. I want you to stay there. Most people should not go to college.

Okay. I just want to make that very, forget not women or men. It is, what are you going to college for? I went to college because there was a peer pressure campaign in high school. If you don't go to college, you're going to be a failure. And I think that that's the reason most people go to college is because the idea of being the kid that goes to community college is not, it means that you're the kid that's a loser and failed.

So everybody signs up for loans with money that they don't have, which marries you further to the state, you know, Sally May loans are the ones that I took out, which were agrees I didn't understand anything I was signing because I didn't come from a wealthy family. I was first generation college kid. I was completely taken advantage of and started my life in mass debt for a journalism degree.

Is that, is that, is that sound like something that any person should be doing? It's completely irrational. I actually think there needs to be a collapse of the scam of college. People should be getting internships out of high school to figure out what the heck they want to do before they waste a bunch of money on a meaningless degree. The majority of people are wasting their money.

I don't know many people that are using their actual degree in the real world, right? The girls go and they sign up and they do fashion and marketing design, you know, and the guys. If you're doing a, you want to be a doctor and you know for sure, that's what I want to do. Yeah, sure, go to college. If you have that vision and you're sure of yourself,

but right now, the whole college scam is what needs to go out. Well, you did a video called College is a scam. It is. So you have no idea how many girls that I talk to when interview they go to college, they graduate college scam is what needs to go out. You did a video called Colleges of Scam. It is. So, you have no idea how many girls that I talk to when interview they go to college, they graduate and they become bartenders or surfers and they're like, And they can pay off their debts. I'm like, why the hell did you even go to college?

Like, I don't know what it was supposed to. But you did a video college as a scam, but you want your kids to go to college, your girls are going to college. Like, how do you guys as parents grapple with what she's saying? I've answered this question a couple of times, and I've talked about STEM, and I'm very clear of my girls, and it says all fun STEM, all fun skills that are going to be applicable with an appropriate ROI,

and we have set aside the funds for their college education and up the amount twice in the last 10 years so that we could have enough getting there. I think the price is a little crazy, but all funds stem, I'll absolutely fund stem. Hey, I want to go with my boyfriend Philippe to the Sorbonne study art history. Well, I hope his up in parents are wealthy and cover you because I will not be. I'll go that route. Also, I think cardiologists, physicians,

nuclear physicists, I think none of that should be self-taught in the garage, specifically nuclear physicists. And that there's a reason for STEM. There's a reason for STEM. But also, Anne Coulter, you'll probably know about this, made a great point. She said, if someone was graduating high school, she said, and the plumber is sitting there, and is best and only suit that he has,

proudly looking at his son graduating, and said, my son's come into work for me as a plumber. And this is why, and the kid says, because I make 60 bucks an hour work with my dad's company, and everybody goes, a plumber makes 60 bucks an hour. They have, the kids don't have any idea about trades. This is where I think in terms of gap years, Israel gets it right. Because you have service of country and you have disciplines that come out of that.

And they all don't stay in the military, but they sure as hell come out with disciplines and appreciation for the conversation about that. No question about that. Absolutely. So you have boys and girls. Yeah. So do you have a different approach with what you would say to Tiko and Dylan versus... Same answers Tom gave.

I'm on the same page as Tom is. Okay. For me, if Dylan plays sports and he looks like he's going that route, he gets a scholarship to play sports and he wants to go to the next level play professionally, it's a complete different discussion. Dylan, Tiko wants to go to movies and Patrick wants to go to movies and stuff like that. We're already talking about that. Senna and Brooklyn, Brooklyn's...

First, don't want to do a sweet, big, great job. Animated by David and the family. She's ridiculous. How animated she is. Senna's a princess. She's a Senna's going to do whatever. She gets the world from me. I want to transition from this story out, Rob, if we can do this.

OK. So, Joe Biden impeachment comes out. Everybody's talking about it. Very emotional, they've for a lot of people frustrated that this is gonna be taking place. It can't sleep last night. And this clip, if you can play this representative Scott Perry on Biden's impeachment inquiry

and what the reaction to this was, if you can just play this, I wanna get your reaction to this, go forward. Yes, ma'am. What actual evidence do you have as opposed to allegations to show to the American public that would merit an actual impeachment inquiry of Joe Biden and prove it today isn't just about some of you? Oh, I don't know.

I'm a coffee with a sake of enacting political revenge. This isn't about political revenge. We have the bank accounts. We can see, ma'am, you can see that the homes that the Biden's own can't be afforded on a congressional or Senate salary. You also understand that it's not normal for family members to receive millions of dollars from overseas interest. Those things aren't normal.

This not normal have 20 cell companies. These things are not normal and it alludes to not only just widespread corruption but money laundering if not influence pedaling itself and we also have the president on the vice president at the time on record saying that the prosecutor was fine well son of a bitch the prosecutor was fired because the prosecutor was going after the company that his son was working on that's what we have if you can't see that if you are if you are that blunt I'll turn it over to the attorney said that I think you know no guys guys go back five seconds rock because we just missed the

main part son was working on that's what we have is you can't see that. If you are, if you are that blonde, I'll turn it over to the attorneys. People can't see that. They think it's political right. Because you don't report on it. I don't think you're reporting

on it. I'm not sure you know what the American people say. You think anything's going to happen? That guy's a legend. Absolutely. I just need to meet him.

I mean, that's exactly right. You don't report on it. It's crazy. I mean, if anyone's saying that there's no evidence of corruption. You really just have to have your head in the sand at this point. And it's very frustrating because those people do exist. There are people that are fully and utterly brainwashed. I'm so fatigued by it.

I mean, I barely cover it on my show anymore because it's like, if you need more information to show you that this is a corrupt family, then there's no more we can possibly can possibly give you, you know, and Ken is and you think anything will happen though? Do you think anything will happen to the Biden's now? Okay, you think they'll get impeached. You think he'll get impeached. I don't know. I'm out of political. I was thinking, Tom, what do you think Tom?

I think they'll get the motion to the four. Remember, this how about votes and who's got the votes? It doesn't, it suddenly is not what is the right or wrong fair jury answer. That's not the it. It's do you have the votes? I think the House may have enough of the votes to get motions and get up to the, you know, to the altar, but there will be no kiss.

And then the Senate has to confirm any sort of impeachment. We saw what happened with Trump. And when they, when they own the Senate, the Republicans, it's all political fodder. And at the very, like, worst, worst, worst case scenario, which I would don't think will happen, they'll just make Hunter Biden be the fall guy. Nothing's happening to Biden. And I actually don't think that anything is going to officially happen to Trump unless they want civil war or part two here. So here's my thing. And Tom mentioned hope earlier, and we've always talked about this. A lot of Americans, me included, share that deep frustration, right?

We feel like hope is dwindling. The Democrats literally wield power, get away with murder. The Republicans just are there like a facade. They're just like, they have to be there for the show. So is this system rigged beyond redemption or is it still worthwhile to strive for change, especially for the benefit of the future generation? system rigged beyond redemption or is it still worthwhile to strive for change, especially for the benefit of the future generation because people like me, can I see this, this is the Republicans barking, the Democrats, nothing is going to happen. Zero, nothing's going

to happen. Do you think that there is hope or we're just, this is just, we have to see just videos like this and other things. I definitely share your sentiment and I'm serious when I say that I just have so much fatigue with it. I'm just like, okay, there's going to be an inquiry and nothing's going to happen because nothing ever happens because if we lived in a system where it wasn't hopelessly rigged, under Biden would be in prison. Who do you know could just smoke crack like that with a secret service? Like it's just, it's insane.

And we cook at the White House. Yeah, and we cook at the White House. I mean, we're so past rigging and what's wrong and morality and ethics that it's, that's why I say the country is just in full decline. They're not even pretending. We can't forget to put the cocaine in the wild. Let it go. Oh God.

There's no cameras. Yeah, and so it's just, I think I am just as frustrated as you. Do I think we can correct the ship? Yes, if I didn't think so, I wouldn't get a bed in the morning. If I thought that it was completely hopeless, I'd be coming up with a strategy of how to leave the country. And there are good guys. There are good players, there are people that are well-meaning

that actually do want to shake things up and change. And I will say that we are in such a better position now. When you look at the independent podcasters that have these massive followings at the collapse of the mainstream media, the fact that CNN can't pull in views, but I can pull on my Twitter feed. That tells you that people are awake, that the fact that rich, you know, at the fact that CNN can't pull in views, but I can pull on my Twitter feed. That tells you that people are awake,

that the fact that rich, you know, rich and worth of Richmond is the number one song in the world. Right, what is that signal to you? It's that, okay, is it corrupt? Yes, but is it hopelessly corrupt? No, because people are awake to the corruption, and I don't think that's a situation

that we were in in, you know, five, six years ago. You know what the enemy wants to do? The two words, it's called leadership fatigue factor and leadership endurance factor. They want you to get fatigued. They want you to get tired of it and they want you to stop talking about it. That's how an opponent beats an opponent.

That's how what happens in boxing, that's what happens in MMA, that's what happens in football, that's what happens in basketball, that's what happens in a, that's what happens in football, that's what happens in basketball, that's what happens in a fourth quarter. And they just look at you and say, they go back and they say, guys, we got them, they're tired. It's done.

Now go for their throat. Take it all, because their best players are fatigued. That's exactly what they want you to think. The more you think you're fatigued, you're tired, you're like, you don't want to your helpless. We can't do anything about it. That's exactly what they want you to think. The more you think your fatigue, your tired, you're like, you don't want to your helpless, we can't do anything about it, that's exactly what they want you to. Because in their mind, guess what they're thinking.

In the third quarter, they're thinking, you figured that bullshit out, and you're gonna get them. In the third quarter, they're worried about you. And then comes Ford course, and no, no, no, guys. We knew they had a chance to beat us, but look at them. They're morally and mentally done. We're going to destroy these guys. Go run them mock on these guys.

And then it's over. That's what they're hoping for. So when you said the good guys, who would you say some of the good guys are? By the way, I'm curious. I mean, culturally, I think that we're doing everybody's doing. I think what your podcast is doing is amazing. I think just getting men to feel that they have a place in this world.

I'm talking about the cultural gains that we have made outside of the political realm, which is why people say do you want to run for politics? No, I think the impact that I'm having in culture is more important. I think it's important people that are leading women down the right way. And you'd have a massive support. Oh my God. I think you would have an army behind you. And he mentioned it. And Ken has actually wrote this down. So you're an excellent

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At Salesforce, we're all about asking more of AI. Questions like, where's the data going? Is it secure? Are you sure? Are you sure you're sure? Get answers you can trust from Salesforce at AskMoreVai.com. I'd even love it. I would vote for a person like you is seeing what they are doing and did to Trump influence you not to enter that arena. Like is it would that be one of those moments because you didn't say yes or no, you kind of were if he seeing what they did to a guy that genuinely cared you even said to yourself, you saw him make that speech, you fact checked,

and you were like, wait a minute, they're lying. The guy is actually real. Does that, what you're seeing, because they run the DOJ and they're all FBI, does that change your mindset? Because you would kill it. I don't fear them. I don't go to the middle.

And I think that what they want is for you to fear them. And I also think that because they're doing this to Trump, they just can't keep doing this. So they've shown us so much, they've revealed so much of who they are in the Trump years. And in many ways, Trump became the sacrificial outside lamb. And he's had to endure more than I think most people have to endure in the future. I mean, they can't just keep coming out like allegations that they did with Trump when he came, you know, the whole me too thing. You can't do they can't just keep coming out with allegations that they did with Trump when he came, the whole me too thing.

You can't do that to, what if a vaix gonna run, you're just gonna say that like 52 women also were raped by the vaix, you know, they want you to do the absurd thing once, you can't just keep doing the absurd thing. So in a way, he's kind of taking all of these bullets and making it actually easier for people in the future.

But I truly genuinely love what, I think it's more important to win culture. I think it's more important to fight on the molecular level. I think it's more important to speak to women about re-assowation in the families. That's the war that the government has actually largely won. Thanks in large part to the public school system and their stranglehold on Hollywood.

You're not allowed to be a conservative in Hollywood. This is, you must be in lockstep in influencing these principles, these ideas. Can't have one young Hollywood actress or actor that is conservative, not want peer-reaching. Not outwardly. No, not really. But left, right there, you could go clean Eastwood

or what's your buddy that, John Void? John Void. Yeah, I feel like you can aim at Eastwood. There's nobody under 30s. No. And if they move, they, they slide into my DMs and like I agree with you, but I always have a career. You're under that's how scary it is. Oh, yeah, I would be told Candace, like I'd be performing in Hollywood at big comedy

clubs. And I do a Trump funny kind of giving him credit, but showing how ridiculous the situation is. And the manager would be like, yo, dude, you can't, you didn't hear the like, they don't like the Trump. And I'm like, well, like don't talk, don't do Trump jokes for other years. I know. I know what you're like, what do you mean? What? Hold on, people are going to me after the show. Like, dude, that was freaking hilarious. Like I have a person I want to go, I couldn't laugh because my wife is like, everybody's

in that mode, but he couldn't laugh his front of my life. He's talking about demasculating man, getting in the lap. And so this, my question I want to ask, just going to my, to a point is, so Ken, is the, a Fox poll came out that the African American support for Biden dropped 30% and actually went up 12% for Trump. Do you think that there's like that type of change is going to have like meaningful impact for like the next, for the, for the, because he's going to obviously run in 2024. Do you think that will make an impact for?

I've always said that I don't know how long it's going to take, but since Trump got into office, I knew that we were going to start to see black Americans go away from the Democrat party. I mean, that just made sense to me, especially black American men. I think they're really awake to these sorts of things right now, and I think that is in large part because there is this kind of pro-masculine movement that's happening and The the Democrats are really just the left is offering this culture where you got to kind of have to be a wimp You know to be you do men have to be a wimp

You know you have to let the the women have to lead and you just need to shut up And I just think that black for black men That's just not going to be a thing and I think that there's something that they're gravitating towards being conservative principles, which by the way, black Americans, we're all conservative. We just don't know it. I'm serious. I believe that. But Poles on just the issues, you're conservative.

You're conservative. Yeah. But they better strike while the irons hot because the only candidate out there that I think black Americans would gravitate towards this Trump. So if they don't do it now in four years, whether it's DeSantis, whether it's God forbid, Mike Pence, like Mike Pence ain't grabbing black America. Like I don't think there's a wider guy out there. So it better happen now,

but you're talking about this attack on masculinity and what they did with Trump and his sacrificial lamb. The face of masculinity these days arguably is who, Andru Tate, right? Yeah, and so I was really interested in speaking with Andru Tate. I know you guys had him on his podcast too, because you can debate whether or not you think what he did in his history should he should account for it now and, you know, he was involved in all of these things. I get it. I get it. Tenze millions of men follow him. Okay. Your opinion about his past means nothing. I need to understand this, right? I am the person. I think it, I get it. Tens of millions of men follow him, okay? Your opinion about his past means nothing.

I need to understand this, right? I am the person, I think it's really stupid and it defies logic when people say that, oh, this person has tens of millions of followers, that this means that all tens of millions of the people that are following him must be racist, must be misogynist, must be human sex shop. I mean, you're just not even trying to think or trying to understand the culture moment.

I am way too interested to come up with an assessment like that. You know, tens of people are not following Trump because they're racist. That's stupid. Okay. So you're missing something and you should be interested in what it is that you're missing. Tens of millions of young men and grown men are not following Andrew Tate because they hate women. Okay. That's a very stupid shallow assessment.

They want more women to be honest with you. Exactly, and so, and when I started realizing the people that were following him, you know, college graduates, men that are interested in business, what the Hushley University was all about, I wanted to under, I wanted to speak to him, and what I've realized is he is a direct cultural response to 10 years of men being told that they are not shit from women, right?

The Lena Don Ames, the girl culture of a Taylor Swift with 10, an army of 10 girls, every song's about a guy and why men suck. Who runs the world, girls, Beyonce? The world, Beyonce, girls. I mean, there have been a decade, the future is from Hillary Clinton, men just shut up, me too movement, a decade of men being told that they have no value, no value in this society. It is inevitable because I believe in equilibrium, because I believe eventually the world

has to correct itself, the energy has to correct itself, that there was going to be men that started saying, actually, you do have value. Actually that woman has no value. Actually women ain't shit, right? You know, because she's a hooker, because she's a sex worker. And this is what we're seeing right now. And to people that don't understand that, it's because you're pretending that we haven't

been existing under a matriarchy, I'm actually longer than 10 years. I mean, it's been about 15 years of sustained trash talk to men that has just been circulated in the mainstream media. And the best part about it, which is just so brilliant, you gotta love women, because we can be mocky, a valiant, is that at the same time that we're doing this, we're claiming that we're the victims.

Right? Yeah, which one is it? It's like, and also like me too, and time's up. But like we're completely dominating the narrative for the last 15 years. And so I understand it. I get it. And I'm actually so happy that men

are starting to talk about what it means to be a high-value man and to bring in a high-value woman. And so is Andrew Pate, the perfect person who, you know, that in his past, this is, no, he's got a lot of things in his past. Then I said to him when I interviewed him, you know, I think he should just be forthcoming and have humility and admit the mistakes and he did a little bit of that in the interview. He said, I showed him some old clips of himself and he genuinely was not happy to speak. Yeah, so that's right.

Genuinely, you could see it on his face, like embarrassed that this is who he was 10 years ago. He's speaking a good, a good, a good change. People can't improve. People can change, let him change because what an asset he would be, you know, to, he has these men that are following him, allowing to evolve, allow him to be sorry,

allowing him to make changes and don't be above anything else. Stop discounting all of those young men that are coming from broken homes, that are directionless, and that are being told that they have no value that are following him. Fully agree, one more point with this. The high value man, you said high value man,

high value woman. I think it's very easy to define a high value man, a man whose protector, provider, present for his woman, respects people, physically fit on the outside, morally, correct on the inside, obviously makes money, men of status, it's easy to find. That's not a problem.

How would you define a high-value woman though, especially these days? Is it beauty? Is it social following? Is it just being a mother? Like, what's a high-value woman? I think it is a woman that wants to be the CEO of the home. I think it is being aspirational.

I think it is allowing men to lead. I genuinely believe that that is the dynamic that works. Like my husband leads in our household. You know, that is just the way that it works. You know, I think it is being beautiful. It is an element of it that part of what the feminist rinsing tried to do was to, you know, the Lena Dunham's. Don't shave your armpits. That's part of the page that's disgusting. You know, like make yourself less

attractive, you know, it's because men like attract, okay, you think you're gonna convince men to like ugly women if we just make ourself ugly. It's like trying to never gonna happen. Yeah, it's like you're trying to make somebody say, like eventually you're gonna make them love disgusting food. Like, you know, of course, people, you should be attractive, you should take care of yourself, but that shouldn't be the number one focus on Instagram, trying to be sexy. It's also being conservative.

A man like mystery, I cannot imagine how any man thinks it's an attractive for their girlfriend or for their wife to constantly be naked on the internet and available to other men. It's gross, and so that's what I tell them and men want to wonder about you, you know, don't you just don't want to put everything out there? Sure, if you do put everything out there, then we want to sleep with you. They're biologically wired that way. Absolutely. You can get a man to slide into your DMs and want to sleep with you, but you are not wife material. And he knows that.

Yeah, like Logan Paul's situation. Can. Can you imagine? Because I don't know another history. I saw him go down on his knee and he's proposing and she's like excited. There was that moment and then you just see all the slew of every guy. And every single day, what do you think about that? Okay. I'm going to give a very nuanced take on that situation and I think it's a lesson for women. So I actually love Sneana Agdol. I follow her on Instagram because I didn't know her youth

until Dylan Danes just kind of dropped it. I knew her, I'm very into fitness and she has this thing called like the Agdol method and so I started following her. She was super pretty and doing all that stuff and then obviously this battle between Logan and him got real and he starts dropping this and this is what I say to women. you know, unfortunately for her, she put an entire record because it's

popular to talk about cock and to be, you know, this is what I'm saying. It's like this is a feminist simulation, like, oh, it's hot. Talk about your partners and talk about how you like cock and, you know, how you don't have a gag reflex. I mean, so crass. I had never seen these clips so crass for her to say. And she did this because it's cool and it's relevant when you're young and in your 20s

and you're a part of the free, the nipple simulation. And then now it diminished her value. It did. And that's the truth. And this should be a warning and a lesson for women. And she's obviously being honest and how humiliated she is and how she thinks it has impacted her life.

It has impacted her life. There's no question about it. If Logan does not marry her, I don't think there is going to be a man that does not take this into account. I mean, the videos are... It's ridiculous. I think he will.

Do you think he will? I think he probably feels responsible for what happened to her. So he might he yeah, I actually don't think it's as bad as as I know Nina. She's from Miami. She's dated actually two of my very good buddies. Like it's not like some girl I met like she dated two of your buddies. Oh yeah, read and Patrick. One's a famous DJ.

One's a big realtor. You've met one of their partners in. Now Dylan's going to draw the fence. There we go. Now here partners in life. Oh man, now Dylan's gonna draw the piss. There we go, now here goes the photos. Oh, they're already out there. They're already out there. And these guys are good dudes, good looking dudes. I believe that she's just a sign of our time's feminism,

liberalism. She's also a social climber. Before she dated Logan Paul, you know, she dated Leonardo DiCaprio. Thank you, long. Adam Levine, there was allegedly some stuff with. We all know now. Of course.

And then- But my point is this, she's also a sports illustrated cover model. She's actually a good person. Yeah, she seems like- Like you said that you were a fan, Dylan Danis is doing her super dirty. Now that she has a court restraining order, whatever, going on like that. But I'll give you this, this goes back to your point. There's so many girls way worse than what she's doing.

Oh, of course. So many girls way worse than what she's doing. Oh, of course. So many girls way worse than what she's doing. But this is what I'm trying to say to them. Like this matters. I mean, I was very surprised by what I saw that she has said. And I think she said it to be funny and that's supposed to be like a girl's being open

about their sexuality, but men don't want that. It's extremely embarrassing to a man to look at videos of your wife talking about gag reflexes. You're soon to be wife talking. It's really embarrassing. It's a great case study. I will tell you, it's a phenomenal case study for every parent.

What do you mean by it? Phenomenal case study on what all the other girls worldwide right now watching this laugh and doing whatever they're thinking. You can either do it to get eyeballs or call my God, I can also do that. Let me make a video about, you know, in the morning and all, or you can say, hey, man, I can't have something like this because this thing's gonna come back up to me one day

and I'm gonna have to face this. My mother's, you know, you've had to bring that girl home to your mom and your mom seeing this trending. Like I would want to know the entire family. Even when I first said, gonna be like, you know, I really like her. And then if you don't know who she's dating, she's dating this girl.

Let me look, wait, do you know who this girl is? Yeah. That girl, but this girl, and that guy, and I have to say one more thing though. I have to because, let's not forget one thing. She's actually beautiful. She's actually fit. She's not some like, only fans model. She's not a process.

She does not a horror. And like, let's forget, she actually is conventionally beautiful. On the other hand, look at Lizzo. You want people to be like, Lizzo? Lizzo has no dirty videos out in the video. Yet she's the definition of freaking beauty, I guess. There's a big difference. She has no dirty videos.

No, no, no. The sooner Instagram, she's absolutely disgusting. Like, no meaning like, and you know, orn video, you know what point? Which should men idolize someone like Lizzo now? And that's why Nina is actually a great case study because she doesn't, she's not only, it's not so, that's her point. And she's why Nina is actually a great case study because she doesn't, she's not on only face.

It's not that bad. She's still suffering the consequences. That's the point. Yes, that's the point. No, I told you, I like her. I've followed her. I think I agree through. I think she's beautiful, fit all of those things.

But the bigger point is that she's not even a prostitute and look at how this is coming back to Hunter. And Pat, you know, you're having kids and Candace, you have in children. The other flip side of it is, and this is going to like a Kim Kardashian, like this girl patch. What's her name? The one that started on this one. So she has, she's gonna have kids one day.

The internet, that doesn't go away. Those videos are always gonna be there. Like the Kim Kardashian, a couple, I think about a year ago, she was crying, bawling because she's like, she tried to Kanye, tried to buy the video of the sex tape. Those kids, it's not gonna go away. Your kids are going to see that one. But by the way, listen, you want fast success, you can do it. You want fast money, go sell cocaine.

You want fast success, make stupid videos of you, sex tapes and release it. Trust me, immediately you can be famous starting off with a high school. Then you can be famous in a college. And then if you're you know You have some kind of momentum. It could be national. Nobody's talking about it depending on who the guys, right? But that fame comes with Consequences and you have to live with that for 10 20 or so if you're okay with that speed go for it So for her this happened in tour. She's not a dummy. This is not a girl. That's a dummy

In hurricane. No, Nina's not a dummy. Nina knows what she's saying and what, you know, the video you're making stuff like that, it's, and at this point, what's happened there with the situation, her, Dylan, Logan, all this stuff, he, so he has to marry her. He has to marry her. He has to marry her. There is no, now you can marry a divorce in three years, but he has to marry her now because he will look for the rest of his life. He's gonna have to say, Dylan is the one that got you to leave that girl.

You're probably it's permanent. He has to marry her. He also has to beat Dylan in this fight to save face. Oh, he will be done. He'll be Dylan. I think it's super important. It's bottom fight. It's not just that.

You brought up Kim Kardashian. That's how this whole thing started. That's a tip of the spear. Yes. Okay. So with the deal and bro, well, yeah, everyone will look to her and say, well, she did a sex tape. Now she's a billionaire. Yeah. Okay. Like the whole family's been manufactured. I have obviously first handed like my best friend is the guy. Chris Humphries that married Kim Kardashian.

And I was a groomsman in the wedding. I walked Chloe down the aisle. I saw Kendall and Kylie when they were 15, 16, like, Bruce was Bruce. When Bruce was Bruce straight up, Bruce was like, so I've seen this whole thing play out and a lot of girls are like, I remember when you did it and like all girls love Kim Kardashian. But don't you think that's the person that started this entire thing? And she married Kanye. Yeah, I don't think most girls, all these girls love Kim Kardashian.

I think actually what do you mean? She's the more Instagram followers. She is followed and she is great at marketing herself. But I do think that there is now a strong pushback to Kardashian culture. I think that's ending is what I'm kind of saying. I don't see it at all. I don't see it at all. Tell me how you're seeing it.

I don't think she's as idolized as she was. I think that Kim Kardashian caught that moment of femininity and sexuality. She is the it girl of what we're talking about. She is the it girl. She is the moment. She was talking about sex and people that's what their show, that's how it became popular. They were dating, you know, who they were sleeping with. She's crying about her sex tape. She's crying about this. Like, she brought forth the sex culture. So she is the

icon from the one that we're talking about, but I think we are actually moving away from it. And with Kim, she's a great example. She's got tons of money and she's got tons of wealth, you know, what's her personal life? Is that it? Is it just money and wealth? This is her fourth marriage that's failed. Am I correct? Her fourth marriage that's failed.

But she told me she's gonna have a... Let's be honest, who's going to marry Kim Kardashian? She's way too, she's way... Is that the worst? Tom, look at this here. The highest negative Q score belongs to Kim Kardashian. She's way too. She's way. Is that the worst? Tom, look at this here. The highest negative Q score belongs to Kim Kardashian 71. Wow. But I'll give you this argument.

It's not just Kim. It's Kendall. It's Kylie. It's Chloe. Okay. But then... Kendall, I think, will get married. She's actually kind of abstained from the... What do you mean? She's dated the NBA? What are you talking about? She's quiet though. She doesn't really, you know.

She's quietly dating half the NBA. I'll give you that. Okay. Well said. But then, this is my point, then they all have kids. And you don't think that their kids are going to be the most famous girls in the world. The two point go Adam, where are you going with it? She's saying that you think it's coming to an end.

But you're saying that this is going to continue. I'm saying it's 1 million percent. But here, me out. This is great. So, what is going to happen is with this case study. Again, life is about case studies. You're going to study case studies. You go to Harvard to get an MBA.

What the hell you think you do for three years when you get your MBA? 500 case studies. When you go to Harvard for three week program, work, and all you're doing is case studies. For three, four years. These guys that go work at McKinsey, at Gartner, all these come BCG, they only go there because they have 500 case studies

under their belt that they went through for whatever business degree they got. This is a phenomenal case study for churches to use. This is a phenomenal case study for schools to use. This is a phenomenal case study for schools to use. This is a phenomenal case study for parents to use. This is a phenomenal case study for a lot of people to use. And by the way, this case study is gonna inspire some people to say what?

You know what? Psssss, you guys are out of your mind. I'm gonna follow what she did. No problem. Still go ahead and do it. We've been trying to get people to say no to drugs for a long time. People are still saying yes to drugs, okay?

And what do you do? Hey, did you see how many people died from fentanyl? Did you see how many people died from cocaine? And Plano, when we used to live in Plano, kids went to school, everybody, before we moved to Plano, Tom's like, Pat, let's move to Plano. So I'm like, okay, so we moved to Plano.

I start to say, what do you guys move? It's like, oh, we're moving to Plano. I don't know nothing about Plano, Texas when I'm in LA. We're living in Grenade Hillsose or what were we living at? We were living in North Porto Ranch or where the porto ranch? So go, you're gonna go to heroin Plano? Like heroin Plano. Typing Plano and heroin Russ.

Not me. I'm like, other than that's always the best time. Somebody's like, oh, you're going to. You're going to have no, I'm like, you're going to crack my Emmy after a co-man. I'm right there tonight. Emmy after a co-man. I'm right there tonight. Yeah, go to, okay, look back.

Look at the third story. I look back at the Plano Hero and Christ. She ate 20 years ago. So I'm like, what hair? So kids were dying left and right. You get cheap labor there. That's why I'm going to look at it. So but the point I'm trying to make to you,

you're right. Some people are going to look at this and say, this is how I'm going to get fame. And some people are going to look at this and say, oh my God,'m gonna get fame. And some people are gonna look at this and say, oh my God, for the rest of my life, I'm gonna get stuck on this. I don't wanna stay on this story. I wanna move on.

Here's a story I wanna go to. Right, play this clip that you and I saw yesterday. Play this clip that you and I saw yesterday from AI. So I'm really curious to know what your thoughts are on this. So this is a new technology tracking, which one of these workers at this coffee shop are working the hardest, the AI, and then it tracks which customers sit in there the longest to track.

So watch this AI, go for it. Camera does all of this for you. Anna's done 20 cups, Vika's done 10 cups, Eleanor's done 10 cups, Olga's done three cups. So the boss can come back and say, hey, Olga, any reason why you set your ass down for an hour, all you did is three cups all day, you're fired, right?

Laining on the counter in the back. She's doing nothing in the back and look at how hard Anna's working. So guess what, this favors who? Anna deserves a race. Olga deserves to be fired. And the 10 cups per day, guys, deserve to just get exactly what they're getting paid.

They can't ask for a race now i'll put the picture i texted you uh... in congress which is very interesting this ai now tracks which percentage of these members of congress they are phones the longest time you see named their seventy six point i percent eighty five point five percent sixty one point two percent eighty one point two percent

is this an area of ai where a level of accountability and surveillance goes to a level where a boss, a parent, by the way, parents, your kids go to school. Now you can see what teachers are doing with kids. You can kind of watch what teachers are doing with kids. You can now track what your kids are doing in school. You can track this for sports, who's practicing, who's training when they go to the gym. Imagine a football coach has AI, three hours you're going to the gym, which linebacker is actually training for how long, which one is not.

You can now officially track how many reps they did, how many sets they did, how many is this a good thing with this level of accountability or does this kind of concern you? Gosh, really hard to answer right off the cuff, but what I will say is that we are like suffering from chronic laziness right now. And that would transform if you knew that you were being watching, just wanting to boss walk, saying you kind of stiffen up and you start doing stuff

because you know that you're being watched. And because I know how far millennials, Gen Zego, in terms of laziness,, they do need a little kick in the butt. Maybe this could be the solution. By the way, regarding schools, I've always thought, why can't I watch my kids while they're in school? They have daycares for daycares.

You can do that because they want parents to feel comfortable about what's happening. So you can log in and you can watch what's going on. This crisis that we're doing with kids beating up their teachers. What if they knew their moms were just watching them from their smartphones, these kids might straighten up a little bit. We love that, mother. Yeah, and we would be good about seeing, so okay, with like schools being able to have cameras

and letting parents access that. That does not bother me at all. I think that's a great idea. And that's a great way to use AI too. And teachers would probably be doing less finicky stuff in the classroom. But there's an element of this that also feels it's subhuman.

Yeah. Like we're watching like robots. Yeah. I don't know like we're suddenly in like I am legend or something. It is. Is that it was at the, no, I robot. What is the I robot?

I robot. Yeah, I robot. I was a good move. I see that. I already report. That's the positive side of it. Yeah. Well, I see it if it's like a Starbucks

and you're monitoring for this type of something. But Olga got to get fired. Olga side of it. Yeah. Well, I see it if it's like a Starbucks and you're monitoring for this type of something. But Olga got to get fired. Olga's gone. Right. Right. I was like, Olga got to go. It was drinking news. Oh, my God.

It's a party. Oh, my God. Oh, it's going back to Ukraine. No, no, no, no, no. Sorry. No, she's relying on Anna. I don't like any of them. What can is it like see?

Olga got to go. I'm with the way this describes almost every Tennis, like, see, like, can I go? I'm with Tennis. By the way, this describes almost every work environment, every sports team, every place. Like, I'm with Tennis, I'm with you because, yeah, it's cool, I'm kind of creeped out about a little bit, but then, like, how far do we go? Like, in China, they're AI system.

If you're a closet and a street and you jaywalk, it doesn't have to see your face. If it sees your body walking, it sends, it takes money out of your account already. And if you don't pay it, your social score goes down. And if people are hanging out with you, their shit goes down. And it's like, this is the beginning of the end.

Your father, what do you think about this? Well, I happen to be married to a teacher and who every now and then does parent conferences. And data always wins, whether you're the district attorney, or the prosecutor or your school teacher, data always wins. People sit down and you say, hey, I like to talk to your kid about math and everything.

Well, they probably need more instruction or attention from you. What's the ratio? Do you have an assistant that's in the class? Usually he starts there. And then it's like, here's the baseline. Here's the test they took. Let's look at the numbers. OK, what do we have to do?

Suddenly it flips a switch. You know, oh my son, my daughter wouldn't do that. Let's look at the surveillance camera at the 7-11. Okay. What do we do to keep them out of jails or probation option here? Data changes everything. That's what happened this week by the way, and that was in school. So I feel very strongly that there is a creepy side to this, to government surveillance, but

you know what? Data usually stops arguments and moves people toward discussion of solution. That's our, I'll add one more thing. What you're saying is Olga's got to be fired. Olga got to be fired. Olga got to be, Olga got to get fired. Olga got to be the title of this video. Olga's getting fired. And then it's exactly right. I got to go. Oh, sure. I'll go get it. I'll go get it. I'll go get it.

I'll get it fired. And then it's exactly right. And Olga comes in with an employment attorney and then we say, sure, let's just sit down and look at this. And then he leaves and tells Olga, Olga, there's not nothing I can do for you. Yeah, for us, it's all so it's go away. I'll say Candace, I think, was right. This is neither good nor bad.

It's just, it's a thing. And I equate this to the metaphor of what social media is, or even what marriage is. And I'll say this, like, you know the great thing about social media is everyone has a voice that can say what they want to say. But also the bad thing about social media is everyone has a voice that can say what they want to say. So when I talk to people about marriage,

like there's one answer was so pointing, and he goes, what do you love about marriage? Like, all right, love my wife, you know, she's just always there. She's always there for me. I go, what do you not like about marriage? My wife is always there. And that's exactly what this is,

is that like they're just tracking you. Are you for it? By the way, run a poll. I think at the end of the day, this is how it's better for society or worse for society. And would you, would you use it? I would absolutely use it. Vinnie, we're using it out there right now.

Let me tell you why we do that. You ready? You ready? I would absolutely use it and tell them. That person that's working the most, you get to come and ask me for massive raise. Perfect. Go for it.

You get to come and ask me for raise because the video validates your work and your ass off. And the people that say, no, shouldn't do this and all this stuff. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,'s gonna hold the shit. But I mean, it could be good for such a lazy, generally, exactly. I actually like it. I like it. I once spent 30 seconds on the next story. I had no plans of covering bad news

because we're having such a good time on the podcast, but I think we have to do this. 30 seconds, I think it's necessary. Mitt Romney says he won't be coming back for reelection and running. I didn't want to ruin everyone's day. I know you guys have a lot of different things you're dealing with.

And it's terrible news. We're gonna have to overcome this collectively together as a unit. I think we're strong enough to do it. We have faced tougher challenges in the past before. But this should be tough. I think we can do it, Senator Mitt Rami. Not seeking reelection.

We have to move on, guys. We just have to move on. guys. We just have to move on. I think we should have a moment of silence for the people of Utah. Half a second. We should have it a move on. Okay. So next clip, Rob, do you have the other clip? Let me see if you have the other clip on. Our friend, the Korean jump here. She's, if's a few can she's if you can, you know, she's black and the lesbian. She wants to know that. So her DEI score is

by the way, and by the way, Candice had this jacket before she thought about buying that jacket. Let me show that out there. And it said that bitch stole my look. I did. I did. Okay.

So Peter Ducey asked, is this the question about a fossil fuel? Is that what's going to she walks off? Oh, she just no, no, asked, is this the question about fossil fuel? Is that what's going to she walks off? Oh, she just no, no, no, he asked the question from her. I don't think I don't know if this is the one or not. What he, how recent is this video, by the way, go back to it. If it's recent, then that's the one.

This one is from yesterday. Okay, then this is the one. Let's see if she, if this is the one, just play. Let's see this clip. And with that, folks, explain why President Interactive is so many of his sons for business associates There's a question that Peter Ducey asks about fossil fuel I think it's absolutely fantastic that he asked I'll go to another story will come back to it

We have to cover that story Which one do we want to go to? Let's go to this story with over half of transgender prisoners in Wisconsin, our sex offenders. Obviously, very surprising. But let's take a look at this here to see what this is telling us, this story. So a report from Wisconsin Department of Correction reveals that over 50% of male inmates, identifying as transgender females

in Wisconsin prisons, having convicted of at least one count of sexual assault or sexual abuse out of 161 transgender identifying male inmates, 81 of them have been convicted of such offenses, including crimes like sexual exploitation of child, rape and sexual intercourse without consent. The oversight project at the Heritage Foundation obtained these records and director Mike Howland

facized that men belong with men and men only in prison. He argued that housing sex offender men who claimed to be women with female inmates is concerning and contributes to perceived moral decline. What do you have to say about this story? I mean, at least surprising story ever. I've been talking about this, and there's a two-pronged approach here.

First and foremost, the advantage of a man, you commit a crime, you commit a sex crime, you molest a child, and you know how they treat pedophiles in prison, you know how they treat sexual deviants in prison. So you just say, actually, no, I'm transgendered. That's what's actually happening. Please put me amongst the women in mates who now need to accept.

And the fact that the prisons are doing this, they're acknowledging them and affirming them and that taxpayers are having to bear the expense, I can't even talk about how much that infuriates me. But the second element of this is that there is, what's not being spoken about, well, it's definitely being spoken by my podcast is the growing alphabet mafia and how they are now adding letters that really just imply sexual deviancy.

You know what I mean? Like a man feeling the need to put on panties, a woman's underwear and you're pretending that that's like a gender or an identity. Perfect example. Sam Brinton, the nuclear energy white house person who literally was open about the fact that he was a sexual deviant. I mean wearing heels, lipsticks into pup play, which if you look into what pup play actually is, you will be shocked at how disgusting it is. You know, on a leash and still got a job.

You know, you used to be fearful that if they googled you and you'd find this stuff online, your employer, you couldn't get hired. This guy got it right here. Oh, this guy. That used to be a disqualifier. If you could find somebody naked in straps and to put play, Sam Brant, just outwardly, I am a freak and fly my fri-fi.

Gets the job after a while. What is jobs? He was a nuclear head ahead of nuclear waste in the energy department. I gotta go. No, I promise you. And then guess what happened? He's a club, though.

He got arrested three times for stealing women's panties at freaking airports. That guy? Yes. Not just one pair. Oh, that's his case. He's called the other show that better. I got it like that would never do something

like this. What are you supposed to be surprised? I'm shocked right now. I'm told to have a freak and better. I got like that would never do something because I'm not. What are you supposed to be surprised? I am shocked right now. I'm told to have a freak and then I did some freaky things, right? And that's what's happening right now in this climate of non-binary. I'm a man, but I want to wear women's underwear and be afraid. They're telling you that something is wrong, right?

They are saying, I am flying my freak fly high. And then we're also supposed to be shocked when they do something that's sexually deviant. And it's mind-boggling to me. It's why I am, it is an issue that I care passionately about. I am a mother to young children. Why does a drag queen want access to a child? Can anybody, can anybody answer that big question?

Okay, you're a man and you like to dress up as a woman and go to night clubs. Flying your free flag high, now you're demanding access to read books to children. Does that not just do we do, can we just pass the sniff test, guys? No. And then you have women out there. You know, it's, you know, it's really interesting. I'm here. We're queer. We're coming for your children. You've heard this. Yes. Let's all say to Unison guys. Yeah. And scary. And here's my thing. Like, for've heard this, I've heard. That's all stated in Unison, guys, right? And it's scary.

And here's my thing, like for instance, like, you know, we have, everybody here has freaking gay friends. I have gay family members. When it comes to like the pride month and everything, it's like, could you talk about the, oh, the sexuality of it? It's like, when is it ever cool?

Name another month or a day or a moment where it's cool for any group to walk outside, but naked, G-stringstring and I get that there's like people are bringing their kids which I think they should you know go to jail but when is it ever cool for you to be in a bike but naked yeah. Why was that literally if I said hey guys tomorrow's family day okay we're gonna have a family parade and we're gonna celebrate families no person is showing up but naked right it's it's no, no family.

So there's something about. Something about. Yeah, naked, got a bicycle, you know, the men that were on bicycles literally naked, right? But for some reason, when you say it's an LGBTQ pride parade, you know you're going to see nudity. What does that tell you? And people are fearful to talk about this. And it's crazy to me as a parent

that we've allowed this to go so far, that we've allowed sexual deviancy to be perceived as an identity, you know, as something that needs to be treated and loved and who are the people behind saying we have a lot, women, it's always women. Why don't women not see the ridiculousness as this? And why aren't the women speaking out more

about trans men in sports? Like why don't, women aren't, those are feminist, those are the Chelsea handlers, right? And so that's a whole different simulation. It's the moms at home are not the ones that are pushing that, you know.

What percentage of women under 30 best guests do you think fall into that type of ideology? Like feminist? Yeah. Like they love Chelsea handler. They're cool with this, they're cool with men being in sports. Difference if you're talking like early 20s versus end of 20s.

I'm saying Gen Z. Let's talk about that. 25 and under. That's the future. This is who we're trying to convince not to go down this path. Oh. You want a percentage? That's what I'm getting.

Well, I know that you've highlighted the 20% of Gen Z identifies LGBT. Look, here's a mayor in Burbank. He's an Armenian mayor. Okay, this guy. In the classroom, he's having this guy spank him. Check this out. This is the Burbank. This is the Burbank mayor. The music might be. That's the Burbank Mayor that's doing this. Pride, proud, love, love. She's strong warrior. And he's like, what's wrong with that? There's nothing wrong with some of the craziest tweets came out about this guy,

which is absolutely wild when you see the GSD folks posted his tweets. Oh my God. Constantine Anthony at a Burbank doing this. By the way, here's Oklahoma elementary school faces calls for a firing drag queen principle. The principle in Oklahoma is a drag queen. Can you please pull this up picture for us? Pull this picture up for us to see it.

So calls to fire drag queen principle, Shane Mernen, also known as Chantelle Mandalay. We have moon lights as a drag queen. Which is scary. But then also previously was arrested on child queen. As a drag queen. Which is scary. But then also previously was arrested on child porn. 20 years ago. Yep.

And basically got away with it because of a technicality. I looked into this case. Technicality because they found what was clear to one judge and another judge was child porn. But then when they brought the trial forth, they couldn't identify a child. And so basically they were like, you can't prove this is actually a child, right? So they had to draw. I swear. Because you have to be able to prove. So if I say that this identify a child. And so basically they were like, you can't prove this is actually a child, right?

So they had to draw. I swear, because you have to be able to prove. So if I say that this is a child, even if it's abundantly cleared all of this as a child, you have to be able to prove that, right? So it was clear enough that they arrested him. It was clear enough that a judge said this arrest holds and then another judge said,

you actually have to be able to say who that child, like we have to be able to say that person is actually a minor and they weren't able to do this So the charges got dropped on a technicality, right? So he gets this expunge from his record and then he Somehow gets voted in a private ceremony that the they came together no parents were there and they made him principal years 20 years Like child arrested for child porn charges. Yeah. What's the city in Oklahoma?

Because it goes down and- And that was supposed to be in front of children. It goes down in LA, San Francisco. And it's a drag queen. And Oklahoma. He showed the photo. Could we just all be completely honest and all the viewers out there. Look how scary drag queens are like, like some people have like a clown phobia.

Look how scary that guy is right there. Look at, look zoom in on the guy on the right. What, that looks like the penguin from Batman. There's worse pictures by the way. Yeah, but they're scary. Like it's scary. I mean, somebody who was arrested for child pornography, demanding access to elementary school children.

And they're cool with it. And they're cool with it. I think I don't think anymore because the story got exposed. And no, not the Oklahoma, if you don't know if you know this, is actually the redis state in the union Oh, really? Yeah, West Virginia Oklahoma Alabama Number one the most the most the redis state in the union is boomer sooner, but Pat what you in LA

There's a story about California Rita so in California Which here is California passes bill punishing parents who don't affirm trans kids in custody battles. Okay, so if you don't affirm kids in custody battles, Elon called it other madness. California State Assembly passed AB 957, which mandates that judges in child custody cases consider whether a parent has a firmly child transgender identity. An amendment in June brought the requirements that the parents must affirm their child's transgender identity. An amendment in June brought in the requirements

stating that the parents must affirm their child's gender identity to be deemed suitable. Okay, for the child's welfare and court to which critics, like Elon Musk, we know what happened with one of his billion children, strongly criticized the bill, must describe that as utter madness and more than it could jeopardize parental custody. If parents disagree with their child's transgender identity.

So now California is penalizing people if they don't affirm a kid's transgender transition. Have you seen, have you fully heard of this? Yeah, I'm fully with this. And what I've said is that I've stopped being outraged at California sources. Like to me, it's like if you're still a parent and you're raising your kid in California, outside of like, you quite

literally have no money and cannot leave the state, I can't support that to do anymore. I mean, I can't. I literally can't support that anymore. It's gotten so crazy there, the policies that they're putting forth that they're able to push through, they're telling you, I mean, that is a, it's basically a communist state at this point,

that people are basically watching North Korea be built around them under the most extreme circumstances. And they're staying there. And then they're going, oh my god, I can't believe this is happening. It's like, California has showed you what California is. It is time to pick up your children and leave California. The state owns your children already in a variety of different ways. It doesn't, it's ending with transgenderism. This has been going on for a very long time.

You saw this with COVID, they wanna put shots in your child's arm. You have no rights in California. So I am now removing your right to complain. If you are still living in the state of California. But you can also ski and surf on the same day. Yeah. I love how people complain about everything

can come as a ci, the traffic that, and they're just like, yeah, put the weather on like that. It's not worth it. I really, sweat my ass. It's not the weather here with Korea, it's just wonderful. You're not a wonder, yeah. It's like summer in North Korea.

You have to sing this song. You haven't been to Pyongyang. Have you seen a North Korean sunset? Oh my God. I went there in Pyongyang and I saw him from the hamsters. So here's my question to kind of wrap up all the feminism, though, the women, the making men weak, right, the going after the kids, the trans thing, the going out, like, is it a concerted effort by like, when you hear like the clouds and the bill gates where they're

like, listen, overpopulation is the biggest problem. Is it an accident or these guys is openly telling us, because all those people that we talked about, they're not having children. The trends, do you know what I mean? The weak men, they don't want to have kids anymore, the feminists are like, we don't need men, is it by accident or is it an effort to really slow down the population? Is it a deeper thing? I think America's that war.

I think America's that war. I think that people always thought World War III would be something like World War II. People would be dropping nukes. And no, I think it's a silent war. It's an ideological war. I believe that there is a globalized effort to take down America from within.

And people realizing after years, China is a huge part of this effort. That you could take over America without firing a single bullet. And it begins and ends with culture. And that's why I believe that culture is the biggest battle that we're facing right now. Sick and TikTok really helps there. I don't think, by the way, I think that that that that fight,

the feminist fight is coming to an end. Yeah. Because the product is showing common sense is winning. And data is winning proving that this is not working. And there's more 60 year old women right now talking about the biggest mistake they made is buying into being a feminist. They can no longer have kids. They wish they were married.

They wish they would have done this. Guys, I wish you were right. I really do. But I spend probably more time than anyone here with women under 30. Yeah. And I say, guys, what do you think about this? What do you think about this? What do you think about this?

Did these 25 and under women, they are so far gone. And that's the future. I wish you were right. You know what it is for you to say that. You also contribute towards it though, because think about it. You're blaming me. No, I'm not blaming you.

Sorry, ladies. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not blaming you. There's an element of it that even, you know, whatever you no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, That's all I want to do. 26 times a year, I'm in Vegas. I was a four hour drive away from Vegas. And Vegas, the opportunity for prospecting was priceless

on what it was. This is pre-tender days. I have no clue what it is to swipe right. You have to actually go talk in prospect. Like, that was work. Like, it takes work of going in and networking and meeting and a friend and this and eventually to go versus today to a DM, you're working your numbers, 100 messages, boom, let's go home six o'clock, then you got one at eight, then you got one at 10. I don't know that versus today, it's a DM, you're working your numbers, a hundred messages, boom, let's go on with six o'clock,

then you got one at eight, then you got one at 10, I don't know that system, but it's a complete different ballgame. I think it's also an element of us as men, we need to also kind of challenge the status quo and tell them, we're not attracted to this. This is not attractive anymore, right? I don't know what you're doing. You think this is attractive?

We're also not turned on by this. I think we can also play a role in that, but that's a whole different conversation. I don't want to get into someone. I want to wrap it up here with your documentary. The BLM documentary that you did, the biggest live or sold, phenomenal. When you did that and you kind of going through how you know, from one lens, I'm kind of watching you right now because I'm watching you as a talent as an individual to see what evolution you're personally going through right like hey as you change and your life changes and you're making money and you have kids and you get married and you move you know I was well I used to be interested I'm really not interested that's not my passion that's not my fight this is is not my fight. I want to enter. And now you're going to true crime, you know, with this, this, this recent one that you

did, which is, uh, uh, what's his name? Steve Avery, Steve Avery. Steve Avery. Yeah. And what happened with that? So out of all the topics you could have chosen to do documentary on, why this? It's actually a perfect build on destroying the BLM narrative. And it's a perfect build on who I am and how I got into this place.

We started this conversation by talking about, you know, Trump coming down and me not wanting him to be there and then me realizing that I was a victim of propaganda my entire life. And so as a cultural warrior, if that's what you want to call me, I am really focused on getting people to understand that their entire life could potentially be decided upon by propaganda, by propaganda's effort that what they think they know they don't know. And so obviously the huge tackle in the political climate of Black Lives Matter

was really how I started myself in politics as it was like unheard of a Black person not supporting BLM, how could you not? And then I needed to show people, you know, after the dust had settled, this is what I was saying. And now Black Lives, BLM as an organization is bankrupt and people watched my documentary, they saw where the money went. They realized that they had been duped because they were emotional and they made to feel guilty because they were white and they just sent money into a dark hole.

And this next documentary is really the same exact examination. For whatever reason we set our presets to trusting a documentary more than the news, like we're like, well, now I'm getting the real information because it's a documentary and there's no way that these two lesbians from New York who created making a murderer could possibly be playing with me. They must be talking the truth. The villain is actually the hero in this docuseries. Super important.

At first in Deva really that Netflix made into docuseries and largely built their empire I would say on this story. And Netflix has since continued this tradition of taking villains and convincing the public that they're heroes. The Central Park 5, Guilty Ascent, Guilty Ascent, and yet a Netflix documentary has made people believe that they're not Guilty Ascent. They've softened Jeffrey Dahmer. You know, this is Netflix's legacy, right?

This is, what are we doing as a culture? It's not just happening in the real world. We are also seeing aspects of that in the fantastic world, Maleficent. Forget that story. What about actually she's a person in there. Joker, he's actually a human being. We take these villains and we turn them into hero

and we're facing this cultural simulation where people want to believe that actually the villain has a heart. And so I wanted to dive into this even Avery story because I was stunned as I, when I learned the truth about what happened, but there's a larger thing that I'm trying to express to people about mainstream media, about Netflix, right?

The power of Netflix is it is an absolute powerhouse and it is forming the way that people think and this story is kind of where it began. And I thought it was interesting challenge for me because it wasn't split along political lines. I wanted to do something that felt a little more apolitical because it wasn't like conservative thought he was guilty and liberal thought that he was innocent. No.

Conservatives and liberals alike got duped by this documentary and Netflix banked. And it's just, it's a very compelling story. But the, the, the true story is the study of humanity, the study of propaganda, the psychology of propaganda, which I am forever fascinated about. Yeah, that's a, I mean, when I was watching it, you couldn't stop, you're just curious and know what happened with it.

Did you follow this story? I was watching it, because then going off your point, Candace, so 19, what Netflix, when they first aired the first episode, 19 points, something million watching it people Like would not go on dates. They wouldn't go with the friends that would speed home and go do it So so Ken is you're painting a different picture to where and I saw the the one of the females that that started She went to school

She wanted to be a director and a writer and everything and then she was just like she read the story on the train Right, she read in a newspaper. She's like I'm gonna go in there. I'm gonna go to Wisconsin, it was almost constant, right? And just flip the script and make it something that people would want to watch. So it's all BS. Yeah, and to see people like conservatives that I've had on the show that were like,

I thought that he wasn't guilty. It's really, yeah. Because they were good, they did a good job. And making you think that these people actually are victims. And also, can we talk about the white really really matters to me to do this in the real world and you're not doing it on a Disney movie is because a woman who was victimized by Steven Avery, he was eventually convicted.

She was raped by two men. She was shot. She was stabbed. She was cut up into pieces and she was burned in a burn pit and she was 20 years old, had her entire life ahead of her. And because of people like Alec Baldwin and Trevor Noah and a mainstream media effort and this anti-policing sentiment

and this belief that we have that the villains could actually be the ones that are struggling, her family then not only had to burry her, this faithful Catholic family who handled this in just the most wonderful capacity given the circumstances, then had to deal with conspiracy theories because Alec Baldwin said, well, her brother wasn't crying enough.

So that's part of it. That means that actually Stephen Avery is innocent. So you just imagine what we do to real people when we recast the victims as the villains and the villains as the victims. There's real life consequences to that. I think this is a media thing that goes on, and I was particularly in sense, I remember, if anybody remembers, when Rolling Stone magazine,

two weeks after the capture of the Boston Marathon bomber, remember there were two brothers, and one actually ran over his brother during the pull-on case and killed him, and then he was on the cover of Rolling Stone. They were faunting over him as this attractive guy who just didn't understand. There it is. I'm sorry, dear.

I'm sorry, dear. You know, and they portrayed him as this because they actually, what Rolling Stone won't tell you is they actually liked the fact that he took action against what was core America. They actually liked the fact that he had actually stepped out to do it. There was an undercurrent here where they were not only making a hero, he was the resistance against the U.S. establishment that they wanted to see. And that's the, and convicting him or it's the same thing. In 2015, the anti-police sentiment was building. So the reason why Trevor, no one,

Alex Baldwin and all these Hollywood characters were jumping on this, wasn't for the same reason people at home were watching it. It was because this was the message that was coming down the pipeline. Now, aside from we want anti-police, the police are the bad guys, the police are crooked. This is the new American stick, so to speak.

I have a question. You brought up conspiracy theorists. This doesn't necessarily have to do with documentary, but it kind of does because it's on daily wire. So in your most recent episode of Candace Owens, you kind of threw some shade on the conspiracy theorists. You kind of was even all the right wing. And you were like, one, one hand, you know, I'm an anti-Semitic Kanye supporter, but

on the other hand, I'm a puppet of Israel, of Israel and Ben Shapiro. Yeah, yeah. So which one is it? Can you be a puppet and anti-Semitic? And that's the part, people that's so far into their conspiracy theories. The stuff that I have right about myself, it's insane. Like, literally, if you don't place your hands right, even when I'm wearing a t-shirt on my show, yeah, that's the end of the day. That's the end of the day.

I'm like, what does it mean? I'm like, I don't know, it's a plane. They're like, okay, but like, what does it mean? Why is there an orange and a concord and plane? And I'm like, I don't know, They're like, well, because you know, people on the internet will just make something up. It's true. Literally, I have to be conscious of what I wear. I have to be conscious of my hand placements. They'll say that I'm in the Illuminati. There are conspiracy theories about my father-in-law who sits in the house

of lords in the UK that he plucked me, works for the Rothschilds, that my marriage to shambles. I mean, people, I get it. I get it, I get it, I get why we don't trust the media, and that's good, but there's also a level that people will go to create conspiracy theories. And when you watch commission a murderer and we show you the fandom, the fact that this sick disgusting man with the history of incest and pedophilia

and being violent toward women is getting fiancee's writing him letters and he has fiancee's in prison and people that are in love with him and crying outside. Yeah, we got to talk about that. We got to talk about that. He does look like Brad Pitt. I mean, obviously he does and I'm being sarcastic.

You know, to wrap it up guys, go ahead Tom. If you got 10 seconds, go forward. No, I was just going to say that, you know, conspiracy theorists will always be around us, but truth and facts eventually come to the reveal. Yeah, no question about the fact about your feelings, Tom. I don't care. All right. Candace, thanks for being on Rob.

If we can make sure once again, folks, go watch the documentary. They can find a documentary where dailywire plus dot com. The first episode is for free on YouTube. If you want to watch it, you'll be hooked. You're going to love it. Go to dailywire.com. You can watch second episode. The fourth episode just came out last night and there's been a huge response to that. Just every episode is an be hooked. You're going to love it. Go to dailywire.com. You can watch second episode. The fourth episode just came out last night, and there's been a huge response to that.

Just every episode is an absolute bomb. You're going to love it. And also, I just want to say a conclusion, Olga, you got to get fired. Oh, I got to go. Rub it. Rub it. Rub Candace. Oh, God.

I'll tell you this. You got that effect. You got that effector. You got that frizz. Respect to you. Gang. Congratulations. Thank you. Congratulations, thank you. You're that risk respect you. And congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Can this coming up by the way, I didn't want to say she's sitting here and she's pregnant

and she's on fire the entire time. Zero excuses was just in LA. Flew out all the way to this other side and then she's got to get home. You're amazing. Got your work and I love your relentlessness. Keep at it. Have a great weekend, everybody. Again, go watch the documentary today. Take care. Bye-bye. Bye, guys. Yn yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw you