PBD Podcast - Candace Owens SUED, Obama EXPOSED, Hulk Hogan DEAD & Trump In EPSTEIN FILES? | PBD Podcast | Ep. 621

Starting point is 00:00:00 Did you ever think you would make it? No, this life meant for me Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright Handshakers better than anything ever sides right here You are a 101 I think I've ever said this before. Okay, gang, episode 21, lots going on, a lot of things. There is a Macron in France that's not too happy, to the point where they had to sue an Owens in America. So we're gonna talk about that, because it's gonna be very interesting when they get into the discovery phase and what kind of things they're gonna discover.

Starting point is 00:00:48 Maybe they're gonna discover something that just looks a little weird, you know what I'm saying? But that's a different story that we'll get into. But maybe they're confident, nothing's gonna be happening. We got more Epstein stuff coming up. At one point they said they want the judge to release everything, then the judge from Florida says, no, we're not gonna release. Why wouldn't you release?

Starting point is 00:01:05 So this Epstein thing continues. So let me get this straight. Let's finish off this Epstein thing and move on to a different topic. No, no, no, no, no. Let's tease the audience that we are going to go and give it to the judge to release. Then you go to the judge and judge from Florida says, no, we're not going to release. Do you like back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. In the interim, not a good week for Columbia University.

Starting point is 00:01:30 $220 million. They have to pay up. $220. They gotta pay up, okay? And that's a massive victory for the people who were going against Columbia. And guess who's sitting on the sidelines saying, oh my God, I think we got away with it.

Starting point is 00:01:45 But then Tom told me this morning, Marco Rubio says, ah, Harvard, you're next. Don't think for a second you're done. And then at the same time, somebody else had to pay $36 million. I think that's the CBS one. So now you have CBS having to pay the president $36 million for the edited interview of Kamala Harris

Starting point is 00:02:07 and President Trump flaunts a new capital gains tax break that could send the market skyrocketing with capital gains on properties. Folks, I mean this is some wild stuff. Obama's office, not Obama, Obama's office responds to Trump's accusation of treason outrageous. Again, not Obama, Obama's office, because you know Obama's above this. I mean it's not like he went on his wife's podcast

Starting point is 00:02:30 and he says, I don't follow anything. People ask me all the time, oh I didn't know, I don't follow any of that stuff. I don't follow any of that. I was out back smoking a salem. Yeah, of course you wouldn't follow any of that stuff. But Tulsi Gabbard says Obama and propaganda media deflect from one important fact on Russia collusion narrative.

Starting point is 00:02:48 Trump announces massive trade agreement with Japan causing three Detroit automakers to be concerned about the Japan trade deal because Japan, auto, Toyota, wait a minute, what are we doing with those guys? So we'll address that. Trump revives push for Japan to increase us us made car imports in Jacksonville, Florida police investigating Viral video showing officer punched punching driver in the face. And let me tell you something I watch a video today his stepdad was talking saying I

Starting point is 00:03:18 Remember when I was 22 years old and I watched a video and it hurt it and he was kind of going You know that when he went through it the only thing that stuck with me was it hurt it I was just gonna say did he use the actual word hurt it and I went in a comment section I saw everybody put it hurt it it hurt it is that proper is it proper to say it hurt it's hurt it don't do this again you're gonna take us back to that one skit with Conan O'Brien and that girl Ben Affleck's ex-wife They came and said you're went to Harvard. You should know this one. Yes. She he takes out Jennifer Gardner was it her yeah, it was Jennifer garden. So alright

Starting point is 00:03:56 By the way, California the $20 minimum wage idea that they had which was brilliant. Let's just raise a minimum wage Let's just raise a minimum wage That led to 20,000 job loss. Okay, let's take minimum wage to 50 bucks. How about we do that, okay? And see what that does to it. Cause, meet effect. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:04:16 Home price hits record high in June, dragging down sales. SpaceX warns investors Elon Musk could return to US politics. Besant backs Fed's independence on rates amid Trump's criticism. We talk about the Macron lawsuit. Top DOJ official plans to meet with Ghislaine Maxwell about Epstein case as House panel pursues subpoena.

Starting point is 00:04:54 Jon Stewart slams CBS for decision to cancel the late show with Stephen Colbert. Stephen Colbert declares himself a martyr and warns the gloves are off. Were they ever on? In searing response to Trump. Now you have to realize folks, Stephen Colbert's a pretty intimidating guy. I mean, let's not get it twisted. Yeah, he'll... I mean, not John Jones.

Starting point is 00:05:15 He'll email the hell out of you. Not Rampage Jackson. Not Mike Tyson. Not a game. Not a game. Not fury. I'm talking about practice. Not these guys.

Starting point is 00:05:24 Not any of these fighters. Not George St. Pierre, but Colbert? When he puts a threat out there, folks? Some scary stuff, man. I mean, the only person scarier than him is Brian Stelter, who really wants you to believe that the late night host losing CBS millions was fired because of Trump. It's all Trump's fault. Remember back in the days, thank you Obama, now it's thank you Trump.

Starting point is 00:05:48 But that kind of comes with the territory, you got to take it. So it's an interesting story in New York Post. Putin knew Hillary Clinton had physical, psycho-emotional problems but kept it quiet during the 2016 campaign, says Gabbard, a New York Post story. Now you have to see what she was taking. Very interesting stuff. Tim Dillon had dinner with JD Vans and he shared something that happened with the dinner, which is kind of weird, but we'll talk about it.

Starting point is 00:06:17 You know Tim Dillon, funny guy, very good at what he does, loved by many millions. Love that guy. But let's get right into the podcast folks you know what's back you know a fun fact about Tom Ellsworth that you all need to know about Tom how many Yetis do you have in your kitchen I believe I have about 30 of these ladies Tom has 30 Yetis question is how many Yetis do you have in your kitchen? Right? How competitive are you? Can you keep up? Can you keep up?

Starting point is 00:06:48 So guess what, the Yetis are back. Rob, if you wanna put it up and play the video. We have the pink ones for the ladies. Fellas, go buy your wife the pink or the white one. Press play, Rob, and you can lower the audio a little bit. But you got the white ones. The future looks bright with the Vitaiment logo. You got the blue, fellas, black, future looks bright. Takes it to your office. You got the small ones with the vitamin logo. You got the blue fellas black

Starting point is 00:07:08 Future looks bright takes us to your office. You got the small ones the big ones All of them. So if you're somebody that drinks a lot of coffee or you drink a lot of tea Or you drink a lot of protein whatever maybe or your Adam you are somebody that's constantly What does Adam do with his bottle of water? He's always It does the bubble. He does the bubble thing for his voice. That's why I got the pink Yeti. You know what we have, ladies and gentlemen? Pay attention here.

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Starting point is 00:07:43 Just went in there. Bigger, better. Lechaim, DVD. Lechaim. And Pat, you know the pink and the white one. You know what? Bigger, better. And Pat, you know the pink and the white one? Bigger, better insulated than the Stanley. Your wife will love these better than Stanley's. Again, remember when we do these guys, we don't do a big order, okay? We even have the one all the way at the bottom for dogs.

Starting point is 00:08:02 Okay, the Yeti pole. Can you imagine your dog's even gonna be optimistic about the future, guys, if you get this form to go place your order? We want a million future looks bright pieces all over the all over the world And if you support the brand go support future looks bright get yourself a Yeti and while you're there Maybe pick up a hat or two for yourself as well. All right, let's get right into it. Rob first story What is the audience saying? They want us to go with the first story? Did we do the poll?

Starting point is 00:08:28 Oh, we did. Right now, 42% of the audience wants to hear about Obama being guilty of treason. Okay, alright. So, Obama, you asked for it. We're coming to you first. Obama office responds to Trump's accusation of treason outrageous. Let me read this to you, Thomas Ellsworth. I'm coming to you first, so please be prepared

Starting point is 00:08:47 with all your notes. Ready. Obama's office spokesperson, Patrick Rodenbush, great first name, rejected the office of the Director of National Intelligence. Reports claim that senior Obama administration officials orchestrated the Russia collusion hoax, stating, out of respect for the office of the presidency our office does not normally

Starting point is 00:09:07 dignify the constant nonsense and misinformation Flowing out of this White House with a response and he called the allegations outrageous and ridiculous a weak attempt of distraction He said nothing in the document issues last week undercuts the widely accepted conclusion That Russia worked to influence the 2016 election but did not successfully manipulate any votes. The ODNI report released by Tulsi Gabbard on Friday found overwhelming evidence that after Trump won in 2016 election against Hillary Clinton, President Obama and his National

Starting point is 00:09:40 Security Cabinet members manufactured and politicized intelligence to lay groundwork for a years long coup against Trump. Tom, what's your thoughts on the story? So there are three things hiding in plain sight here. The first that's hiding in plain sight was that Obama was nowhere in sight. He didn't come to a podium. He didn't do one of those impromptu interviews. The media that follows him around where he goes for his foundation or things he does didn't do one of those impromptu interviews. He, the media that follows him around, where he goes for his foundation or things he does, didn't come up behind him. He didn't go on the podcast with his wife

Starting point is 00:10:11 where he was talking about young men and things and needing gay friends a week ago to come back and says, I don't need any of this crap. No, nothing. Obama was silent. Why is Obama silent? Ask yourself, ladies and gentlemen. He's above this.

Starting point is 00:10:24 Or maybe he's deep in it. Maybe he's not above it. He's deep in it and so he sends a pack a spokesperson Patrick Rodenbush, which is what Obama doesn't does he's never riding Bush is got an issue here Now he goes the office of the presidency and the office so they're speaking in third person Whenever you have people in Washington that. So they're speaking in third person. Whenever you have people in Washington that are cornered, they speak in third person. I think this issue is not something that will be dignified by a statement. Now I'm not even making a statement, see? I'm referring to the issue in third person. So Obama is his office from the office of Obama, and then

Starting point is 00:11:04 if it hits the fan, what are those politicians always do? Well that statement from my office may have been premature. So now it's a statement by your office It's not you and then lastly in plain sight Vinny. Look at these words Nothing in the document issued last week undercuts the widely accepted conclusion. Hang on now They're gonna state the widely accepted conclusion hang on now they're going to state the widely accepted conclusion Russia worked to influence the 2016 election but did not successfully manipulate any votes. Wait a minute that wasn't the conclusion the conclusions the Dems say wasn't that Russia

Starting point is 00:11:40 worked to influence it but didn't did not successfully votes they said this is an illegitimate president in 2016 they worked to influence votes so now they're restating it so whenever you so whenever you don't want to answer the question restate the question were you home by 11 o'clock last night Tom dad you always tell me to be home by midnight I don't know what the problem is here did I answer the question no I restated it I restated as if I'm trying to you know, talk to my dad and be cool They said son that wasn't the question. Were you home by 11 p.m. Last night dad. I don't know why this is a question

Starting point is 00:12:18 That's how politicians work. So all in here This is here and you want to know why this is happening? Myself and many other people think this is happening, Pat, because the treason word was used, and that diagram presented by Tulsi Gabbard had what they don't like, backup and evidence. By the way, here's Tulsi. If you want to play the clip of Tulsi Gabbard while she's talking about this entire issue,

Starting point is 00:12:43 is this the one, Rob, from the clip? So I have two. Yes, this is her announcing some of the indictments against Obama, and then I also have her talking about the media being complicit in the Russiagate hoax. Go for it. Thank you very much. Good afternoon. President Trump's direction and with the support and coordination of the House Intelligence

Starting point is 00:13:03 Committee Chairman, Rick Crawford, today we've released a declassified oversight majority staff report that was produced in September of 2020. The stunning revelations that we are releasing today should be of concern to every American. This is not about Democrats or Republicans. This has to do with the integrity of our Democratic Republic and American voters having faith that the votes cast will count. There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence community assessment that they knew was false.

Starting point is 00:13:43 They knew it would promote this contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help President Trump win, selling it to the American people as though it were true. It wasn't. The report that we released today shows in great detail how they carried this out. They manufactured findings from shoddy sources.

Starting point is 00:14:03 They suppressed evidence and credible intelligence that disproved their false claims. They disobeyed traditional tradecraft intelligence community standards and withheld the truth from the American people. In doing so, they conspired to subvert the will of the American people who elected Donald Trump in that election in November of 2016. They worked with their partners in the media to promote this lie, ultimately to undermine the legitimacy of President Trump and launching what would be a years-long coup against him and his administration.

Starting point is 00:14:37 Yep, there you go. So that's that. So this is something real that happened. If this gets proven and people see it, the question then becomes, which is where Vinny always goes to, nothing will happen, nothing will happen to Obama. But they are saying that Obama may be asked to be subpoenaed.

Starting point is 00:14:56 Okay, House Speaker Mike Johnson says, Congress might subpoena Obama over Russia conspiracy. Is this it, Rob? Can you play this clip? I think we have a responsibility to follow the truth where it leads and to do it in an unbiased fashion, to do effectively the opposite of what that other team did. They're engaged in a partisan political plot

Starting point is 00:15:15 to take down their foe and the other party. We need to be about the rule of law and bring an order to the chaos and searching out the truth because the american people are old those answers so we have some some very bright very capable very strong leaders that judiciary and oversight and chairman jim jordan or he doesn't me comor and the other committees that would be involved

Starting point is 00:15:38 and i do expect that uh... that whether there's a special counsel appointed which some are suggesting and or in conjunction with the House investigations, that we will get the answers. And there will be accountability to the extent that we're able to do that, referring people to the DOJ for prosecution and any other measure that is appropriate as we begin to uncover more of the facts. Does it get tricky at all with the former president, President Obama, looking at what his role in this is and bringing him in for some sort of deposition potential disappearance?

Starting point is 00:16:05 Well, listen, I mean, I can't, we have no concern about that. If it's uncomfortable for him, he shouldn't have been involved in overseeing this, which is what it appears to us has happened. Okay, so where does he say, Rob, that he's going to be? Well, I think that was like, that was just him, Pat, saying basically like, what about Obama? That's him going, well, if he's involved, then then it is what it is that's not how I hear it I'm reading an article here that says Mike Johnson says that he might be subpoenaed okay he might he might not be

Starting point is 00:16:33 now the reaction by the media Rob that Tulsi says what she says that's the one I want to see go for it CNN shut it up by the way. We have members of the media who were complicit in this from the very beginning who were leaked early copies this from the very beginning, who were leaked early copies of this, or at least lines from this January 2017 Obama-manufactured intelligence assessment. They printed what they were fed, people like Ellen Nakashima from the Washington Post, who by the way went on to win a Pulitzer Prize because for years she was so good at lying and not telling the truth to the American people that they gave her an award for it.

Starting point is 00:17:10 These people are still here. Ellen Nakashima is still harassing people who work within the intelligence community who are calling up and reporting her, you know, using burner phones to try to ask them harassing questions. Okay, who's this person she's talking about? Can you pull up the profile? Let's find out who she's talking about. Tom, do you know that person? Yeah, she is a Washington Post reporter and what she does is she basically is a regurgitator and then she presents herself as a Washington insider. I've got all these contacts, got all the stuff stuff going on but she gets fed by the DNC

Starting point is 00:17:46 So she is their mouthpiece in the media That's what she is and they arrange for her to get a Pulitzer Prize in investigative journalism Where all she's doing is regurgitating. Can you Google who she is? Yeah, and just go to her Wikipedia I want to find out who this person is. How do you say your name Tom? Nakashima Nakashima. Nakashima? What do you mean Nakashima? Are you being sarcastic?

Starting point is 00:18:11 This is a sensitive topic, Tom. What do you mean Nakashima? Is it really Nakashima? You better knock it off, Tom. Nakashima, if I knock it off. There it is. Ellen Nakashima. Okay, go to Ellen Nakashima.

Starting point is 00:18:20 Let's go look where she went to school, ladies and gentlemen. Could I guess? Harvard? You mean a little bit? Harvard? Harvard? Berkeley. Berkeley! It doesn't get worse than that.

Starting point is 00:18:28 So she went to Berkeley, London, um, she was in the University of Berkeley, and she went to four journals in London. She began her journal career at Hartford Current and in Quincy Patriot Ledger before joining WAPO as a reporter in 1999. She has worked as a White House reporter since South Asia. She won a series of awards. Okay. Covering national security since 2009.

Starting point is 00:18:48 One of the ones that was a guest invited to state dinner hosted by US President Joe Biden in honor of Prime Minister Fumio Kishida at the White House. Okay. So that's what our friend. She's a Washington insider. Yeah. That's what our friend, she's a Washington insider, that's what our friend Tosie's talking about on information that's going on.

Starting point is 00:19:10 Now listen, as this is going, is this a method of overshadowing something else that may be taking place? Because just yesterday when it comes down to the Epstein story, let me go to that. So we were told that they're going to ask a judge to do what? To release the files and let the people see the files, right? Is that what they promised us, Tom? Yep. Called unsealing testimony.

Starting point is 00:19:37 Perfect. And then what happens when we're told that? Judge denies request to unseal Epstein grand jury transcripts in Florida. So why would he do that? Why would this judge do that? Federal judge in Florida, Judge Robin Rosenberg denied the Trump administration's request on Wednesday to unseal grand jury transcripts. Rob, it says you have a video here from 2005 to 2007, investigation into that. Citing the Justice Department's concession that laws and criminal procedure generally forbid unsealing grand jury testimony except in narrow circumstances, stating in a 12-page

Starting point is 00:20:18 order, the court's hands are tied and Justice Department requests driven by special circumstance and historical interest by the public aimed to bolster claims that it had left no stone unturned and noting since July 6, 2025, there has been extensive public interest on the basis for the memorandum conclusions. The decision frustrates the administration's efforts to address the pressure from the right-wing supporters demanding more Epstein-related disclosures. Is this the clip-rop about... Yes, this is Caroline Levitt was asked if the Trump administration is going to appeal

Starting point is 00:20:53 the judge's ruling. Go for it. A Florida federal judge refused to allow the Epstein grand jury materials to be released. Does the president want the administration or the Department of Justice to appeal that ruling? That was just breaking as the director and I were coming out here, so I haven't had a chance to talk to the President about it. I understand there are two other requests from the Department of Justice that are ongoing,

Starting point is 00:21:13 but I'll let this President speak to whether he wants to see an appeal. And the Department of Justice, I'm sure, can give you a statement on that as well. And is he supportive of the effort to talk to Gilead Maxwell? I know that Todd Blanchett mentioned that earlier this week. The President spoke to this yesterday and he said he thinks it's an appropriate idea. You know, obviously the developments with the Epstein case with the judge.

Starting point is 00:21:31 But I wonder, has the White House, White House counsel, the DOJ explored any other documents that could be released to the public that don't have to do with that grand jury testimony? To my knowledge, the Department of Justice has moved forward with the request to unse with that grand jury testimony? To my knowledge, the Department of Justice has moved forward with the request to unseal that grand jury testimony. And as you know, they have also moved forward

Starting point is 00:21:50 with interviewing Ms. Maxwell, which I believe will be taking place very soon. I feel bad for Caroline Lovett. Because she has no clue what's going on, meaning she has to get out there and sort of put on the charade as if she's involved. She has to sort of... Well, I'm pretty sure she's...

Starting point is 00:22:07 I'm pretty sure she's brave. I'm pretty sure she's brave. Let's stay on the topic here. So instead of you being concerned for her, she's married, bro. So, all right, Roy Black, legendary defense attorney for Epstein, Justin Bieber, and Kennedy family dies at 80. So Epstein's former lawyer just died. Obviously, he's 80 years old, but the story that comes out at the same time, you know,

Starting point is 00:22:24 you hear some other stories released in there. Bill Clinton wrote a letter also to Epstein for his 50th Daily Mail Drops. Warm and gushing letter to Epstein as Trump sues over claim. He also wrote a baddie body note of a pedophile half century. This is Daily Mail story. And then on top of that, while this is is going on House panel votes to subpoena bill and Hillary Clinton over possible links to Ghislaine Maxwell all of these stories with Epstein are coming out a lot of people are quiet about it and then a

Starting point is 00:22:56 BBC story drops I don't know if you saw this BBC story that just dropped White House pushes back after reports that Trump is named in the Epstein files. Did you see this one, Vinnie? Vinnie I did not. I did not see this. Okay, so this is from BBC. White House, through spokesman Stephen Chung, dismissed reports that President Trump was

Starting point is 00:23:13 informed in May by Attorney General Pan Bonnie that the names appeared in the documents as fake news story, with Chung stating, nothing more than the constitution of the fake news story concocted by the Democrats and the liberal media. Just like the Obama-Russia Gate scandal with President Trump was right about, the Wall Street Journal reported Bondi told Trump during a routine briefing that the files contained hearsay about many people including Trump, but being named is not evidence of wrongdoing. FBI Director Cash Patel, the criminal leakers

Starting point is 00:23:45 and fake news media tries tirelessly to undermine President Trump with smears and lies, but the story is no different. Benny, your thoughts with the story on what's going on? Man, it just, the more and more they're trying to distract us and put us over here and look over here. Listen, I hate to even say it but maybe, just maybe, Elon Musk was right. Maybe Elon was right. What was it in June he tweeted? Out of nowhere Trump doesn't want it released because Trump is on that list or whatever. By the way, and again this doesn't mean he did anything. He admitted, yeah I knew him, yeah whatever. There's footage of him. There's footage of him. There's footage of you hanging out with him, with Melania, with whatever person he was with.

Starting point is 00:24:29 That's okay. Back then, everybody was hanging out, everybody was chilling. You just don't want your name involved. This is the worst. You nailed it. The worst fumble. Just say, yes, I was around him. We were in Manhattan. We were all rich. We were all doing it. I didn't know what the hell to the extent of what it was doing and once you know he got convicted for pedophilia That's when I broke everything off just because your name is in there doesn't mean you're guilty Okay, and I think that's what they're trying to to freaking cover up because like you and Pat not to go backwards if you don't mind The the the Barack thing the Barack Obama. I think it's a distraction, but the same token Why is everybody pissed off?

Starting point is 00:25:05 Everybody's in the view and everybody's mad. How dare you go after an ex-president? He's not untouchable. Look at the president they sent with Trump, with everything that they did with Trump, Pat, from trying to arrest him for a hundred years for Mar-a-Lago, this and all that shit. They shot him in the freaking head and no ex-president is untouchable. Okay, I can show you the mugshot of Donald Trump, okay? And then think about this.

Starting point is 00:25:27 He tried to, Obama and them, if it's all factual, they tried to overthrow the government. We picked who we picked. We picked Trump, and they tried to undermine him. He used the FBI, he used the CIA path. You know what they should have? Have a public trial. I don't give, this Epstein stuff, okay.

Starting point is 00:25:43 Have a public trial, okay, and if he's guilty, put Obama's ass in jail for the rest of his freaking life, okay, because people need to know that if this happens again and somebody comes in, they can look back and go, oh shit, let's not do it because Obama's in jail for this shit, and then we wonder why the trust for the government is at an all time low, okay, it's at the worst it could possibly be.

Starting point is 00:26:03 You wanna gain it back, then hold these people accountable put put them on trial and if they're guilty put their ass in jail the Epstein thing I think is the biggest freaking fumble period remember Adam when we first started talking about this what two weeks ago it's like yeah only losers only whatever look where we are it's the top of the news every single day it It's about this because it seems to me that they're covering it up. Something isn't right. And I keep going back to the children. We always worry about the people involved. It's the kids. And did you see this? Pat, Tom? Did you guys see this? This is a deposition where he's asked if Epstein had

Starting point is 00:26:42 a personal relationship with Trump and they say something about underage 18 year old girls and you tell me how you take away from this clip. Go ahead Rob. Have you ever had a personal relationship with Donald Trump? What do you mean by personal relationships? Have you socialized with him? Yes sir. Yes?

Starting point is 00:27:04 Yes sir. Have you socialized with him? Yes, sir. Yes? Yes, sir. Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18? No Frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from

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Starting point is 00:27:41 Have you ever had a personal relationship with- Okay, so now, have you ever been around him with under 18? He grins, he smiles and he goes I wish I could but I can't under the Fifth Amendment. Like if this is a video let's just say that Trump is worried about coming out I mean it's gonna come out that could just mean I wish I could just say no he had nothing to do with anything but my lawyer has directed me Tom everything has to be pled the fifth. So I'll tell you, Epstein is a scumbag. We have all the things, and he got a sweetheart deal in Florida, but let's set that, right? There were 22 victims, there was several charges, and then it got reduced, and he was given

Starting point is 00:28:18 a minor charge of solicitation. That really happened. Epstein was a scumbag. Everybody agrees. But when you look at this Vinny, I got it I'm not defending him. I'm pointing out is how these processes work. Yeah The reason he says no is if I say no, I never did they've been in court find one picture of You and a girl that's under 18 that could be somebody else's daughter that was at the same party and therefore you were Socializing with Donald Trump with a girl under 18

Starting point is 00:28:48 Yeah, so you end up whenever you're getting these narrow questions with a grand jury or a voluntary federal deposition I think this was the latter People always take the fifth through it because what they're trying to do is they're trying to say your honor given that I'd like To enter this into evidence and to bring this into court. So then the district attorney says, well, he denied all this. You're saying all this is true.

Starting point is 00:29:11 You've got all these pieces of evidence. OK, I guess we're going to court here. That's how this thing works. So this doesn't presume guilt on either side. This is how the process works. If you were to pose Vinny on something like this, your lawyer would be telling you, Vinny, just take the fifth, take the fifth, take the fifth.

Starting point is 00:29:28 Make them go into court and produce the witness that you bought the keg with your credit card to a party and you had underage cousins and people that were there and somebody got drunk and got hurt. They would tell you the same thing. That's the process. I am not saying that Jeffrey Epstein is not a raging scumbag or was the late. Yeah. Adam. So Russia, Russia, Russia, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein. Russia is Epstein. Epstein is Russia in my opinion.

Starting point is 00:29:56 Finkel is Einhorn. Finkel is Einhorn. Einhorn is Finkel. That's what's going on here. Because there's a lot of similarities here. I'm not sure if you intentionally put these stories together because I actually think there's a lot of synergy in what's happening here. Do you remember in 2016, what was happening? They're having these meetings Russia, it's Russia gate, stand up, stand by on the next episode of Russia gate, we were all glued to our TV. And admittedly, I fell for it. I'm like, this guy is a Putin puppet. The media said it. It must be true. Turns out the media will lie. We understand the steel dossier. This reporter has seen.

Starting point is 00:30:31 So Trump was out there. It's fake news. It's a hoax. It's a witch hunt. Everyone's like, okay, Donald. Sure, buddy. Putin puppet. Turns out Donald Trump, Donald Trump was telling the absolute truth and nothing but the truth. But the media ran with it. Russia did try to interfere in the election. True. Trump campaign conspired with Russia.

Starting point is 00:30:56 False. Paul Manafort, remember we had Paul Manafort on the podcast? This was in the height of Adam's lunacy. I was like this piece of shit Paul Manafort. I'm gonna take exposed. He came on here. I was like, what a guy. Nice guy. Yeah, lobbyist. And that was like sort of the snowball effect. I was like, you know what? Maybe the media lied to me about this Russia thing. They did more than I Leslie Stahl had air cover from the White House. Well, she said, Donald, this is 60 minutes. Okay, Leslie Stahl. Yeah. She was speaking like a judge on the federal ground here. Right. Yeah. We know that the FBI had their own sort of agenda and they were seriously flawed. We know that the media got this story

Starting point is 00:31:42 and completely ran with it, divided the country. Robert Mueller. He didn't say one frickin word That there's a lot of correlation. What's going on with Epstein with Russia. We don't know what's true. We don't know what's false We know that Donald Trump did hang out with Epstein. This isn't even a question. I see the videos Yeah, there's pictures of them hanging out Yeah, just cuz you've hung out with somebody and you were named in some sort of lawsuit. Buddy, I've hung out with Andrew Tate dozens of times. That doesn't mean I was sex trafficking women. That doesn't even mean that he was sex trafficking women.

Starting point is 00:32:16 So we don't know what's true, what's false, what's media, what's a plant. This is why when our friend Sean Hannity came on, he said, listen, I'm just going to kind of kind of sit back relax wait for the facts to play out. That's kind of where I'm at with this I don't get embroiled but in every single media story Adam, but don't you and I mean truth, but you're my brother I love you to death. I want to know hey, don't you want don't you want accountability me? Adam Vinny we all know but no Adam I disagree not a lot of these people No, they don't because Barack was this savior the yes, we all do. No, but no, Adam, I disagree. Not a lot of these people, no they don't. Because Barack was this savior, the yes we can, the BS artist. Okay?

Starting point is 00:32:50 What they did, what they did, people want to talk about January 6th, to hell with January 6th. These people were like, he won. Let's create this fake story. Hillary, go pay for this fake dossier and push it to the Department of Justice and what? To overthrow the government, to defy the will of the people, Adam. So when I say accountability, and I get what Sean Hannity was saying, it's going to take some time.

Starting point is 00:33:15 Be patient. We've been patient from before JFK. Go to those people. You know what they told those people too? Be patient. Cut to 2025, Adam, cut to 2025. They're still like, here are 10 more documents that don't say shit.

Starting point is 00:33:30 We're still waiting. And again, it's Adam, and I'll start with the Russia thing. How much shit did Pat, you, I'm sorry, me, Adam, what? Dude, my career, I've lost friends because they're like, you're with the Russia asset, Putin, blah, blah, Putin blah blah blah blah. So zero accountability for that. And when it comes to Epstein, not one famous high ranking pedophile scumbag is going to

Starting point is 00:33:53 be dragged in front of the courts so we could see them. I want to see them. Why the hell was he going to the White House 17 times to see Bill Clinton? Explain that to me. What are they talking about? And when you walk into his house- Let me ask you, what to me. What are they talking about? And when you walk into his house. Let me ask you, what do you think they were talking about? Adam, he flew to his, he was on the airport.

Starting point is 00:34:11 But go there for a second. The Epstein-Clinton thing. What do you think actually happened there? Me personally, probably some money moving stuff. Probably some big, cause dude, by the way, if you saw the interview with Darryl Cooper with the Tucker, say what you want about Epstein. He was very good at being a piece of you know what?

Starting point is 00:34:26 Moving money, offshore accounts, probably some money stuff with the Clinton Foundation which I think he was attached. And then Adam maybe some girl stuff. That's what money managers do. But you ready for this? Adam, I believe, Vincent O'Shauna believes that it was something, hey listen,

Starting point is 00:34:38 when you come to the island this time, I got you, I know how you like them and blah blah blah. When you walk into his apartment in Manhattan, why is there a picture of him in a blue dress? Pointing right when you walk in do you think that means I got you evidence that Jeffrey Epstein donated to the Clinton campaign Is there I think there's a connection with him with either Lex Wexner and him whatever it is I'm just saying that a lot of times these big donors. What do they call them mega donors to get preferential treatment? What's a connection to what you call it in the foundation? What do you call it there donors to get preferential? Bundlers and bundlers are what exactly bundlers are people that know a lot of people who know a lot of people

Starting point is 00:35:21 So I work with five high-end people that each of them is taking money from say ten Millionaires and so now that's 50 people represented by those 10, and then represented by me, so you create a paper trail that is hard to follow. And then all that money goes into a PAC, very legally, but then nobody knows who got the money into the PAC, but now the PAC goes to do the will of the DNC. That is one of the flaws in the campaign finance, which is what people ask for campaign finance reform, eliminated another. Rob Chad GBT, Pat, about his, what was the question that you put in? The question was, what are Jeffrey Epstein's connections to the Clinton Foundation, and

Starting point is 00:35:55 here's what it gave. Several points of connection from the finance Clinton Fund. So he financed his travel. Go to number two, Robbie. He helped concede the Clinton Global initiative, gave donations. So besides what they were talking about, Adam, I just, and I'm not one of those- So maybe, let me hear me out. We talk about signal and noise. Maybe the cornerstone of their relationship, we're talking about Clinton and Epstein for a second, maybe the cornerstone

Starting point is 00:36:20 of the relationship was genuinely- Money. Political and financial. Money. Yes. That stuff didn't happen until 2002. This happened. the cornerstone of the relationship was genuinely money, political money, financial, that's not going to happen. 2020 this happened this happened 2002 and he visited the White House 17 times between 93 and 95. So yeah, that's a lot. The foundation of their relationship was probably business money, political money. And then there's ancillary stuff. Hey, by the way, when you come to the island, you know, we're gonna have a little party, we're gonna have a little fun. And then there's ancillary stuff. Hey, by the way, when you come to the island, you know, we're gonna have a little party, we're gonna have a little fun, and then little things like that happen. So like there's like the meat, right?

Starting point is 00:36:50 And then there's the steak and then there's the sizzle. Of course. So the genuine steak was a business transactional relationship. And then there's some ancillary stuff going on. And you're ready for this all? And just off of history, Bill Clinton has been accused of sexual assault. Juanita Broderick said he attacked her in a freaking hotel room

Starting point is 00:37:09 almost ripped her lip off don't forget about his actions with Monica Lewinsky hold on which is all consensual consensual but at the end of the day Adam that's a type of guy that you want to do business with and then bring him to your island and then record him doing shit so you could have dirt on him. Allegedly. Allegedly. Let me say one thing about Clinton. And I was a Clinton fan. I think you even voted for Clinton your first time, no? I would if I was voting. Clinton I think was a great president. Meaning, as far as the numbers and the deficit and basically where the country was in the 90s. But hear me out for a second. Everyone wants to go immediately like, because Bill Clinton got a blow

Starting point is 00:37:42 job from Monica Lewinsky, he's obviously a child sex trafficker. He's obviously likes underage women. I'm not there. I think Clinton, especially if you're married to Hillary, probably like to step out a little bit, you know, blow off a little steam, not have to look at Hillary every single day and maybe had some fun with extracurricular activity with ladies at Epstein Island or wherever. That doesn't mean that they were underage women though. That's the problem I have. People are like, well, Clint obviously likes underage women. It's like, what evidence do you have of that? There's a ton of evidence that he likes normal women,

Starting point is 00:38:12 but no evidence that he likes underage women. And that's where things get so caught up in the gray area. It's like, where'd we just go from- Well, Virginia Dufresne was underage. Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, we could go back and forth on this the question is and it's an honest question all-american is asking You said okay? Well, why don't we just have have them unseal the records and then suddenly a judge a District judge and I think there's 94 I believe it's 94 districts in the United States and 13 circuit courts also known as Court of Appeals and the circuit courts at 13 Circuit courts have the balls.

Starting point is 00:38:45 They have the clout. And so you take one of these district judges from the Southern District of Florida, I think it is, District 2, and saying, oh, oh, I'm not going to unseal that. It's wait a minute. This was coming from the federal government, coming from cabinet, saying let's unseal it. And then a district judge says, no, no, no, we're going to leave it sealed. Is this who didn't do it? Yes, sir. She was appointed by Obama. Yep. Weird. Go a little bit lower. But you see my point Pat, this is a mid-level federal

Starting point is 00:39:14 judge and the the circuit court of appeals is above that so it's like wait a minute why do you have now district judge are real judges but she's not like a Supreme Court justice. It says on the bottom, Pat, she declined to release additional grand jury documents. I know, we just read that earlier. That's what we were reading. And by the way, she's married a Florida State Attorney

Starting point is 00:39:32 for Palm Beach County, Michael McAuliffe. Was he part of the Palm Beach County group? Tom, we read that earlier, bro. That sent everything up? Rob, can you click on who Michael McAuliffe is? Yes, sir. Go to that one. Adam, stay with us.

Starting point is 00:39:46 I'm right here with you, Pat. Is he connected to the Palm Beach crew that sent all the Epstein case up to the federal? Can you type that in chat, GVTC, who he is? Where you at with all this, Pat? Hang on, let me just kind of go through this background with Michael. So, this just totally.

Starting point is 00:40:06 It's so weird. He's been a prosecutor for about 30 years, Southern District Florida attorney handling five profile criminal honors in terms of just in Tuesday. Was he on any of the Epstein cases, Robert? Prosecuted the Louisiana KKK grand dragon for hate crimes, staged in the Palm Beach in 2018, led 125 prosecutions. Can you put in is there any

Starting point is 00:40:26 link between him and Epstein? Any link between him and Epstein? Any link between him? They were college roommates. He was the state prosecutor for Palm Beach County in 08 when Epstein was... So he was the prosecutor? There's no documented personal... The only mention of McAuliffe and his Epstein related material appears in 2010. Reference, Epstein's lawyer, Jack Goldberger, reportedly asked McAuliffe, then a state attorney, to drop certain charges, but this request doesn't indicate any deeper relation or involvement. Moreover, there's no indication that McAuliffe ever assisted Epstein.

Starting point is 00:41:05 Can you ask the same question on Krog? Why were they asking him? So why was Epstein's lawyer asking him? Because he was on the team. Hang on one second. Ask Krog the same exact question. Is there any connection between McAuliffe and Epstein? And Epstein.

Starting point is 00:41:20 Rob, you're so fast, Rob. Zoom in a little bit for us 40 year olds. 47, I'm 47. 39. Let's see what it says. Ah. Jefferson with the notorious financier. No, I'm trying to find out.

Starting point is 00:41:35 Come on Grock. What is all this Hitler answer? Come on Grock. Come on Grock. Is it really taking this long Rob? Yeah, Grock, Super Grock takes a little bit longer for some reason. Oh there it is. Yes, there is a professional connection between them. I'm going to go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead stating back on, McCall, that Prizo was stated, McCall involvement after the Epstein plea deal during Epstein's probation and house arrest period, which later ended, lasted till 2010. Key events included Epstein's attorney, Jack Oldburn,

Starting point is 00:42:13 requested that McCall, we already read that probation, and release him from house arrest early. That request was denied. An email from assistant attorney, Barbara Burns, to McCall of describe the situation as this dragon just keeps praising, raising its ugly head, and emphasized that Epstein was a registered sex offender that was fortunate to get a deal of the century.

Starting point is 00:42:33 Burns further noted that Epstein's team was pushing for leniency, but the office stood against it. McAuliffe's office was responsible for enforcing the terms of Epstein's supervision, releasing cluding decisions on his travel and work privileges. While McAuliffe did not negotiate the original 2008 deal, he inherited and managed his aftermath, the professional link that draws.

Starting point is 00:42:52 Okay, so then he's married, particularly due to McAuliffe's merits, to Judge Rosenberg in July of 2012. Rosenberg requested a grand jury transcript 2004, citing issues, social media in some reports alleged conflict, pointing that McAuliffe's prior role in the case and suggesting this is very interesting. Oh my goodness. It could influence decisions to keep records sealed. Weird.

Starting point is 00:43:14 Okay, so then if that's the case, so go back to that lady's Wikipedia if you don't mind. You just had it a minute ago. Yeah, if you can go to hers. So she's appointed by Obama. Okay. She assumed office in 14, which is the last two years of Obama. She's a Duke University person. JD, Duke, undergrad, Princeton.

Starting point is 00:43:39 So if you're appointed by Obama and you don't want to release it, you're definitely not releasing it because you're trying to protect Trump. So why wouldn't you release it and the conflict of interest with your husband prior links to it Very interesting this is very interesting to me on why that's happening And it all leads back to it's all Florida It's all goes back to Florida where this guy got a sweet a pedophile not a Florida didn't give him the sweetheart deal When it was sent to this I believe the Southern District of New York the Southern District Allegedly was told hey this guy belongs to intelligence and they reduced it to uncharged solicitation. But it all stems from Florida, correct?

Starting point is 00:44:30 Well, Florida did the work and then the federal government says, hey, hey, hey, let me take care of that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like when the FBI walks in on a local crime and says, hey, we'll take this over now. And the local sheriff says, we're perfectly capable of investigating. Who said that he was an intelligence asset? Alex Acosta. Did they say FBI? Because I think Laura Loomer mentioned FBI. They said he belonged to intelligence and I was told not to touch him, to leave him alone. But

Starting point is 00:44:53 I think they specifically said FBI. Did they not? Did Laura Loomer make that? No, no, no. Alex Acosta said he belonged. Acosta is the one that said it. Yeah. And then when he was questioned he goes, I never said it. It's like's like come on, bro Well, he said he did remember saying it but he didn't know who told him It was a guy in a shadow with a hat well dark listen, let's move on obviously again two things You know the more and more they keep coming back to these types of things Believe it or not the more they're making back to these types of things, believe it or not, the more they're making it worse because they're not making it go away.

Starting point is 00:45:30 So either say we're done with this, we're not coming back, or two, if you're claiming that you want this stuff to be leaked, do it ASAP and address it. But it keeps, like every week, how many weeks have we been going through Epstein's? Almost three. Every week we want to go through different stories, distinct reapers. Well, they said they're going to release them.

Starting point is 00:45:52 The judge said no. Well, they said they're going to release them. The judge said no. Versus like, hey, do something. Make a decision or just say you don't want this thing to be leaked. But one of the two decisions needs to be made. We aren't keeping it open, Pat. We're reacting to the news wave.

Starting point is 00:46:04 Oh, for sure. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what. It's of the two things to be leaked. We aren't keeping it open, Pat. We're reacting to the news wave. I'll tell you what, it's the best show on TV right now. And now Epstein's lawyer is dead. Renewing for season 20. Epstein's lawyer died. You know how he died? He drowned paddle boarding with Hillary Clinton after committing suicide by hanging on a palm tree at that same beach after he was shot. Oh! It was also 80 something years old and sick. Tom's telling a joke.

Starting point is 00:46:24 It's not even a legend. It's a joke. Tom's telling a joke. It was also 80 years old. It's not even a legend. It's a joke. Yeah, I bought Tom dad jokes, three of them on his birthday. And this was not in the book. That was an original for Tom. Great gift, bad decision. Yeah, great gift, bad decision.

Starting point is 00:46:37 I agree. All right, let's go talk about a state that we should constantly give proper recognition to. Let's talk about the number one state in unemployment, in homelessness, highest in taxes, and the one that keeps coming up with bad ideas. Get the trophy, buddy. California's $20 fast food minimum wage that they came up with that everyone's like, oh my God.

Starting point is 00:47:02 Revolutionary. If California can do it, so can you. Well before you tried to be California with this $20 an hour minimum wage idea, watch these numbers closely. The $20 fast food minimum wage led to 18,000 fewer jobs. A National Bureau of Economic Research paper reported that California's $20 an hour minimum wage enacted in September of 2023, effective in April of 2024, led to 2.7% employment decline in the fast food sector compared to other U.S. regions, with a median estimate of 18,000 jobs lost relative to counterfactual adjusting for pre-AB

Starting point is 00:47:47 1228 trends, the decline increases to 3.2%. The Employment Policies Institute estimated non-tipped restaurant workers lost 250 hours annually equating to $4,000 in lost income or seven weeks of work per employee, California Globe reported that thousands of fast food jobs were shed in anticipation of higher costs, including 1,200 drivers at Pizza Hut after the law took effect. Restaurant automated to avoid higher wages with some closing entirely. Stanford University data indicated over 10,000 fast food jobs were lost by June of 2024, two years ago, despite the governor's office claimed job increase, a claim contradicted

Starting point is 00:48:34 by federal data by the fall. California Gavin Newsom signed and defended the minimum wage law. Tom. So guess what? Cause, meet, effect. So I take you back to New York City. Was it Michael Bloomberg that said fast food workers in New York City were gonna get like 15 bucks an hour?

Starting point is 00:48:51 This goes back, Rob, this goes back a little while, several years, if we can find it really, really, really, really fast. So Michael Bloomberg comes out and says, okay, minimum wage has to go up in New York, and it has to go up for fast food workers. You know, fast food workers have to get a minimum, a living wage, really? 16 year old kid flipping burgers part-time

Starting point is 00:49:06 after school and these are by law to have a, a, a, a, a living wage. Are you kidding me? So anyway, yes. What that led to kiosks, kiosks. So suddenly you went into McDonald's ever been to McDonald's and just, and just, you go up to the wall. It's like a kiosk. And by the way, it's the same thing that happens. And everybody was screaming 20 years ago when Southwest airlines was one of them first to put kiosk in airports. Wait, what about the workers? To all of us used to fly planes. What about the damn lines? This is easier. I like this. So guess what's happened. California puts in this and guess what? You have cause and effect combination of pizza hut. Some of them said we can't even operate. So group one pizza So guess what's happened. California puts in this, and guess what? You have cause and effect.

Starting point is 00:49:45 Combination of Pizza Hut, some of them said we can't even operate. So group one, Pizza Hut, we can't even operate. We're closing some of them. And we also, and thanks to crime in Oakland, everyone closed all of them, right? Then you would now have all of these other people, where the decision in New York that

Starting point is 00:50:03 led to the kiosks getting into McDonald's this accelerates adoption of kiosks this Accelerates automated foods or food handling back back on the grill That's what this does because capitalists go if I'm going to be forced to take These workers and go to 20 bucks I'm not my my cost structures aren't made for that and by the way if property taxes are going on What is that Pizza Hut sitting on? California dirt that has California property tax so you start adding it all up and suddenly if you're just looking for votes You put the $20 minimum wage out there, but if you're looking for burgers

Starting point is 00:50:44 That's not what you want to do because pretty soon burgers are harder to find because they're closing That's what's happening here, and you're also seeing Faster adoption of kiosks like when New York City came out and said Michael Bloomberg president scant toy 20 support a $15 Bower minimum wage, but it stands the minimum wage has evolved over time because donors that said hey Hey man, I own 10 McDonald's. You're not going to see a penny in your election fund shorty. If we can do something about this minimum wage, it's hurting me. And so that's what happened. But the kiosk is accelerated in McDonald's after New York came out and said this because capitalists look, Hey man, I'm not trying to join these kids out of my McDonald's.

Starting point is 00:51:25 Whatever is the best, most cost effective way to get burgers to the person standing there with their $10 bill, I want to do it. And if you're going to make me do minimum wage here, then I'm going to look at it and say, well, the airline's putting kiosks, maybe I'll put in kiosks. That's all that happened. And suddenly this is some evil capitalist thing and no one's talking about the National Bureau of Economic Research all they needed to do was to point out who was the guy that led this

Starting point is 00:51:55 So they're saying fast food leads to fewer jobs So they're talking about fewer jobs and are talking about this impact talk about the leader that has caused this and this is Gavin Newsom Gavin Newsom is reduced. And he'll come out, take credit, to Healthier California, because I've been slowly eradicating the scourge that is fast food on our diets. He'll take credit for it in some way. Adam, your thoughts on this. So minimum wage.

Starting point is 00:52:18 This is a discussion, I think, that gets people very riled up and emotional. Because this is one of those issues where emotionally emotionally I was like, pay these people more years ago when I first started doing all the save that money content, I went down to downtown Miami, there was a fight for 15 parade basically about fighting for 15. Now, it's interesting the conversation has shifted to the fight for 20 and I felt so bad for these fast food workers. They're the people that work at the airports the people that work Uh, you know sort of the medial jobs that nobody wants to do and I felt so bad for these people But interestingly enough, this is what pat always talks about Not a lot of them spoke english I didn't see a lot of them who are looking to improve or basically saying i'm trying to do better in my life They just said pay me more, pay me more, pay me more.

Starting point is 00:53:06 So on the surface you're like, oh, okay, I feel bad for these people. But when you peel back the onion, you peel back the layers and you actually look at it from the small business perspective, which I appreciate. I've learned so much sitting next to PBD. You realize this, all these raises are just going to get passed on to the consumer as a tax basically. So your hamburger is going to cost more, prices to basically go out and eat at restaurants are going to cost more.

Starting point is 00:53:33 The small business owner will probably cut staff or cut hours, reduce hours. You talked about automation, you talked about kiosks. There's also a ripple effect of what leads to inflation. Because let's say you're making 20 right now now And there's people who are at 15 that are fighting for 20 and the people at 15 get the 20 You're at 20. You're this person's manager. You're gonna say alright. Well, you just gave this guy 20. I want 25 now I want 30 now and because now this person got for their 15 to 20 now your 20 is gonna go to 25 So everything is gonna get inflatedated, inflated, inflated. And the small business owner is going to say, what the hell is going on here?

Starting point is 00:54:10 They're going to pass the higher pricing on to you or they're going to go out of business, which you've seen so many times in California. And then you have that one lady in California who said basically, fight for 15, fight for for 20 I'm fighting for 50 and do some simple math $50 an hour is a hundred thousand dollars a year so now you're flipping burgers making a hundred G's and a happy meal is a very unhappy 22 bucks very true very sad yeah I mean look it's so funny a guy sends me a man act about well let me tell you you, here's what I'm going through and

Starting point is 00:54:47 this is what I'm doing. I'm like, read these four books. Yeah, but aside from reading those books, what can I do to make more money and all this? I said, go to business conferences. Yeah, but aside from going to the business conferences and what do I need to do? I want to know the real secret. I said, have better friends that offer better peer pressure to you where you're the lowest earner out of all your friends.

Starting point is 00:55:08 Never be the biggest earner. Yeah, but I want the real secret. Excuse this. I'm like, buddy, listen, I'm not the guy for you. Yeah, there's no secret. If you want minimum wage to increase and you're making the argument about it being unfair, how are you recreating yourself and improving yourself? What new skill set are you picking up? How are you getting better? How do you change this

Starting point is 00:55:27 mindset of it's everybody else's fault instead of you taking responsibility? What are you doing about it? And a guy was talking to me, he said, man what do I do to make more money? This guy's over 300 pounds. I said lose 60 pounds. You're 60 pounds away from making more money. What do you mean? I said, dude you realize your body was built to be 180. You know how impossible, what you're doing is called doing the impossible. How many people whose body was built to only have 180 pounds can go around all day carrying a 120 pound dumbbell? That's what you're doing. I say you're doing the impossible. I said

Starting point is 00:56:05 it's impossible for you to compete with somebody else that's 60 pounds lighter than you. You want a career promotion? Yes, lose 60 pounds. Oh, that's harsh. No, no, it's the truth. It's the truth. Well, I'm having a hard time finding girls. Are you surprised? You know what's always confusing? Things like, hey, why doesn't she like me? Can we introduce her to me? I'm like bro. You're 300 pounds. Yeah, what do you mean? She doesn't like you well Biggie was 300 pounds Biggie was a rapper Biggie was the best rapper alive. Biggie was a rapper. You broke three of her ribs giving her a hug He got you see did you see the types of girls? They got girls biggie. Yeah, no, no, you're bro. You're not Biggie Okay, no, you're not you're huge Yeah, but but let me listen as much as I'm having fun with this as much as I'm having fun with this

Starting point is 00:56:53 I'm 23 years old 49,000 hours in debt Nothing's going right in my life bad relationship. Just the girl I wanted to marry doesn't work out and my life. Bad relationship, just the girl I wanted to marry doesn't work out. And I'm by myself asking me, would you allow your future daughter to marry you? And the answer was a unanimous hell no. And then what happened? I changed. I made changes. What was the most basic change? I wouldn't stop reading business books. What was the other change? I kept going to business events. You know I'm talking to Tony last week, Tony Robbins, I said Tony, you know I went to UPW at 21 years old.

Starting point is 00:57:31 Long Beach. I went to Tony Robbins' conference at 21 years old, 25 years ago, and let me tell you what happened. I go to this event, and I'm attending it, right? I'm like, oh my God, what am I going to do? I'm going to this place. So I go, I'm at Long Beach Convention Center, and I'm sitting next to a guy. Craziest thing happens to me, I'm sitting next oh my God, what am I gonna do? I'm going to this place. So I go, I'm at Long Beach Convention Center, and I'm sitting next to a guy.

Starting point is 00:57:46 Craziest thing happens to me, I'm sitting next to a guy. So I'm trying to, so, you know, why are you here? And I'm learning how to speak, so I'm kind of like a little awkward, and it's mechanical, it's very awkward. I've got the military. It's like one of those things like, so it's like. You're popping in like that.

Starting point is 00:58:02 So I sit next to this guy, and I said, so what's your outcome of being here? What brought you here? He says, man, I'm just trying to have a breakthrough, bro. I'm like, wow, that's pretty impressive. How old are you? 45 years old, how old are you? I'm 21.

Starting point is 00:58:15 He's trying to break through, yeah, I've just hit a wall. Like damn, now he starts sympathizing with the guy. Seriously, you've hit a wall? So now I'm trying to help him out. I'm like, oh wow, it's pretty, listen, I mean, life is good. Yeah, I said, what caused you to hit the wall? He now I'm trying to help him out. I'm like, oh wow, it's pretty, listen, I mean life is good, yeah, what caused you to hit the wall? He says, three years ago I sold my business

Starting point is 00:58:28 for 400 million dollars. Ever since then I've been a little bit lost. Can I hit a wall? Where is that wall? Help me, I wanna find that wall, Doug. I wanna hit that wall. Find that wall for me, let me hit it. Bam, I hit the wall, right?

Starting point is 00:58:43 I need the coordinates! So then I'm like wow there are people that are at 400 million dollars with a standard of you want to recreate yourself? That's when I realized this is a never-ending process in life. There are billionaires that are going through trying to find the next phase in their lives. And unfortunately, people that are fighting to raise minimum wage, you're being screwed. You really are. Instead, for me, what was the biggest saving grace was the books, was the relationship, and I went to four to ten business conferences every single year. That 21-year-old guy is now putting a conference called Vault Conference, and 12,000 people

Starting point is 00:59:26 are going to be there. The keynote speakers are Tony Robbins, Martha Stewart, and David Falk, where you saw Michael Jordan negotiations. And now this is leading to us doing today, we're about to get on a plane to go to Arkansas to sit down with a couple clients that we have an engagement with. We're literally going to be with their employees. These guys got now, we started working with them three, four years ago. They had a EBITDA that was making two, three percent. Right now they have an EBITDA of nearly $7 million for the

Starting point is 00:59:49 first six months of the year. Let's go. And we're going to go hang out with these guys, Morgan and Sean. We're going to have a good time with those guys when we go to Arkansas. Healthy double digit percent. Healthy double, and it's a couple hundred million dollar companies. Serious EBITDA. We're going to get on the gen and we're going to go spend some time in Arkansas. I told

Starting point is 01:00:01 them, I can't wait to see the beach in Arkansas. It's incredible It's beautiful the waves when they hit the side. It's just a it's it's an incredible experience. What's the moral of the story? What's wrong with if if somebody is watching this arguing for? $20 minimum wage and you're seeing the consequences The market is going to do something very simple to you if you're not worth the money. They'll fire you Either the customers will fire you the company will fire you you, and the market is going to say go lie to somebody else and see if somebody hires you. And if they do, see if you'll keep the job. Half the battle is if you can keep the job. Some guys can't land a good girl, but can you keep her?

Starting point is 01:00:38 Some girls can't land a great guy, but can you keep them long term? It's a lot of work. Maybe you are worth what you think you are. Market will say no you're not. Market will say, no you're not. If it's saying no you're not and you want to do something about it or if you want to have a complete different recreation phase for yourself, breakthrough, go to the Vault Conference in Orlando. Come join us.

Starting point is 01:00:56 We're all going to be there. My family is going to be there. My kids are going to be there. My wife is going to be there. Everyone is going to be there. It's exciting times that we're doing at this event. We've got some special, special things that will be announced at that event, but that's the $20 minimum wage argument.

Starting point is 01:01:09 Oh my God. Let's raise that $20 to a real number instead of just $20 minimum wage. By the way, watch what's happening here according to Wall Street Journal. Are you ready for this? Home prices hit record high in June. Dragging down sales. Home prices hit record high in June. Dragging down sales. Home prices hit record high in June, okay? Dragging down sales.

Starting point is 01:01:29 Let's go through this. So the national median existing home price in June rose to $435,000. A record in data going back to 1990, a 2% increase from a year earlier while U.S. existing home sales fell 2.7% from prior month to a seasonal adjusted annual rate of $3.93 million. The slowest pace since September, according to the National Association of Realtors, home buyers were hesitant, with unaffordable home prices and mortgage rates above 6.5%, making purchases difficult.

Starting point is 01:02:01 Lawrence Young, NAR's chief economist said, the fact that we hit record high home prices is reflecting multiple years of under supply. Nationally, there were 1.53 million homes for sale or under contract at the end of June, down 0.6% from May but up 15.9% from June of 2024, with more than one in four listings on Zillow getting a price cut, that's a big number, the highest proportion for any June since at least 2018, Diane Ayala-Sefi, branch manager at New American Funding in San Antonio stated there is a lot more inventory and the demand is not that great, so that makes for a better market for who?

Starting point is 01:02:41 The buyer. Noting sellers are becoming a lot more flexible. So this story, Tom, is a weird story. It's a story that's telling you the prices are going up, but it's also telling you sellers are more flexible to wanting to sell. Tom, your thoughts on this story. Tom Hichman Well, I don't know who's more full of crap, politicians or headline writers.

Starting point is 01:03:00 And you, I am getting, I just, you know what we should do every day, you know what we should do every day, Pat? Just have 15 minutes, all of us sit here and we just go fast popcorn, we decode headlines for the short attention span reader. For people that don't wanna read headlines, they just wanna know what it means. We could just do it. So home prices hit record highs, dragging down sales.

Starting point is 01:03:22 No, sales have been low for now three years. Record lows. And what that means is the number of houses that transacted Vinnie. Like Vinnie, Vinnie we've been looking at Zillow. You were looking at down here. You're looking for a nice condo, two-car garage. So you keep got to put a wife in it too hopefully. Well you wouldn't put her in the garage but I mean. I know you know what I mean. Well it depends on her attitude but go ahead. Yep, so but the point is you're looking for you know a great housing for yourself with a secure garage Bup-bup-bup, and they're just there's no inventory They're not for sale and the reason is people didn't want to sell their houses because they had a really good interest rate on

Starting point is 01:03:59 Their mortgage well then guess what also has been happening? The property tax has gone up, and also that happens more gradually during reassessment, but the homeowners insurance has gone way up, like California and Florida. And so if you read into the Wall Street Journal story, it's like we're starting to see price cuts, but people like you are still looking at the interest rate and what that does to your payment,

Starting point is 01:04:28 and as soon as you buy that place, the property tax is gonna reassess at the transaction, which that's up, and then the homeowners insurance is up. So what you have is everything is up. It's not just this, but the first, I believe, and I connect with Bill Poulty, who's the director of Fannie Mae and doing a great job in Washington. And he's been saying, we need interest rates to come down a little bit so we can get the market moving a little bit.

Starting point is 01:05:02 If we can get one of the things to move, get the interest rates to move so more people could afford the payment with the property tax, with the insurance, maybe we could get this market going. But the Wall Street Journal here is just saying, yeah, home prices hit record high, that's dragging down the sales, okay. But there were some price cuts starting to happen,

Starting point is 01:05:23 but the truth is the number of transactions is at a Still way low in other words you can say this is up a percent That's up a percent that's down a percent, but just and you can play games with percents words talk number scream Percents don't tell the whole story, but they're part of the numbers It's the number of transactions just aren't happening. Because overall it's a housing affordability crisis, that's what the issue is. And prices are up because the great houses are still selling, not briskly, but they're selling at higher prices.

Starting point is 01:05:58 So what does it mean? It means that the market right now, there's not really a market for buyers right now. They need more things to be on a market at a moderated price. So when they buy that house, then the property tax is more moderated. Do you think sellers today, Rob, what is the number of, do you remember the number Tom on how much cash people had during COVID? How we reached an all-time high of 2.4 trillion of cash and it went all the way down to 1.4 trillion.

Starting point is 01:06:28 That's right. And then what is the cash people have today? And then the other alignment with that was the total amount of credit card debt that we went down to 700 billion and we blew it. 1.1 trillion or whatever. We blew it right past 1.1 trillion when the government said 2022, everybody can go

Starting point is 01:06:46 out and play. No, what is the right way to ask the question? Because a lot of this matters. If I'm a buyer, this is the number I'm looking at. What is the federal government statistic on total savings? And this will be coming from, I think it's St. Louis Fed that used to keep this. Actually, I'm it's St. Louis Fed that used to keep this. Actually, I'm sure of it. It's St. Louis Fed used to keep statistics

Starting point is 01:07:07 on consumer savings and total credit card debt. This number matters the most, because during COVID, I remember the chart that they said during COVID, is it shown it to you? During COVID, they showed that the total cash during covid showed that total cash American. Okay, there's one stat that the AMS, average monthly savings, is 496.

Starting point is 01:07:39 People are saving about 500 bucks. But what is the total reserve, like total savings reserves for Americans? Average saver balance is seven is that it seven thousand four hundred and sixty dollars I'm looking at what I'm trying to find out is because if if cash is low, and I'm a buyer Fine yeah, I'd be curious in how much cash people have system No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, But, if the cash in hand people have right now is at an all-time high, nobody is going to be selling. The leverage isn't on you. So it becomes a very awkward time where sellers are willing to sell, but they're not motivated

Starting point is 01:08:35 sellers for the most part. So anytime I'm trying to buy something, I'll ask, is the seller motivated? They're motivated, but they're not desperate. Okay, well what does that really mean? So you're not really fully motivated. Everybody is motivated, right? But not at the levels of wanting to drop the price by $50,000 or $100,000 depending on the price of the house.

Starting point is 01:08:53 So a lot of that matters with the amount of cash that we have at hand. At least a couple years ago, it was tough because everybody was greedy. Adam? Well, I'm not going to make any realtor friends by saying what I'm about to say but the most overrated investment you can possibly make is buying a house. I'm not saying it's a bad investment, I'm not saying you're gonna lose money, I'm saying it's the most overrated investment. So let's play a little game here Vinny because you've been asking about buying a house here

Starting point is 01:09:21 for a second. If you're gonna buy a million dollar house, million dollar house, put down a little down payment, put down 50 grand, you're a veteran. Okay. I have the VA loan. There you go. So right now interest rates, 6%, whatever it may be, 30 year mortgage. In 30 years, you say, all right, I bought this house for a million. How much do you think you actually spent and paid for that house on the actual house 30 years from now okay how much did you spend is it less than half what do you mean listen if I want to thought like the house is a million dollars yes how much did you spend on that million dollar house like actually on the house seven hundred and fifty thousand well you didn't spend 750 because it cost a million it's more than

Starting point is 01:10:00 a million yeah it's more than a million well how much two million dollars I don't want that well you buy a million. It's more than a million. How much? $2 million. I don't want that. Well, you buy a million dollar house, 6% interest rate, 30 year mortgage, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, do the math, you're going to spend $2 million on that $1 million asset. Do you understand what I'm saying right now? Vinny, don't buy a freaking house, bro. That's all you have to say.

Starting point is 01:10:24 What the hell are you doing freaking jeopardy mortgages? How much did you spend on a million dollar house? $750. No, you're spending more than the million because you have to basically make payments and on your payments, there's interest on your payments. Over 30 years, your million dollar house is going to cost you $2 million. Double it, double it, double it. That's my point.

Starting point is 01:10:43 So for young people out there This is my message to you. Don't buy a house if you're young you're single you're working on your career You're working on starting a business. You're not married. You don't have kids. You're working on your life. Don't buy a house I totally understand if you're established you have a family you have kids, you know, we're gonna live for the next decade You may want to consider buying a house You know, we're going to live for the next decade. You may want to consider buying a house 100% if that's who you are. If you're young, you're single bro.

Starting point is 01:11:13 Keep your flexibility high and your overhead low work on your career. Work on your business, work on yourself. Don't get lied to and confused by the realtor association saying that renting is throwing away money. It's only throwing away money if you don't save money, save that money, and use the difference to invest that money. I know plenty of Realtors who rent. I don't know any financial advisors that don't own stocks. Do the math on that.

Starting point is 01:11:42 Let me tell you what I found out yesterday for the very first time. I found out that our governor doesn't own a home or a car Do you know governor de Santos doesn't own a house or a car smart guy? Is under his wife did you hear what I just yeah weird did you know why I? I did not know that if you google does Ron de Santos own a house or a car Doesn't own a car, but his wife is a sporty little model Jesus Tom okay, so that was inappropriate, but let's go back to this so yeah. He doesn't no private home

Starting point is 01:12:18 okay, does not own any private real estate and Doesn't own a car what does it look like there's no public 7% own registered private vehicle. No public record of the Santa's person owning a private vehicle. What's wrong with that though? No, no, but it's kind of weird for a governor to not own, you ought to be in control. I don't think so. Well, I understand you don't think so

Starting point is 01:12:38 because you're like the anomaly. No, no, no, no, but maybe he's onto something. It's very tough for you to want others to be optimistic about home ownership in your state while you're not. It's like when I went and bought a Ford, I bought it from this guy named Jaime Godina. Every once in a while I give this guy a shout out. I bought a few Fords from him. We bought it for our family and I've always referred over to him. Bunch of people. He sold me an Expedition. He sold me a Focus or an

Starting point is 01:13:12 Expedition. I'm like, what do you drive? Oh, I drive an Expedition. What do you have? Product to the product. I don't know. The idea of people, I did an interview 2011 Rob if you go to Denver Post by David Denver Post by David I'm wearing this beautiful orange sweater Ghetto look at that. Look at that. That's from Gap other true. Oh, could you show me? They didn't jab hang on Look at that sporty little model. Oh my goodness embarrassing those zoom out a little bit. Let me see when the story What was the article What would the when was it written April 28th? 2016 so ten years ago and go to the title of the article Rob

Starting point is 01:13:53 I don't think that's 2016 home buying no because 2016 cold already in In Texas rent this is not 2016 The story says updated so I it doesn't know it's up there. No the original is 2012 we've talked about this article. Yeah, but I don't so if you go up there the story says what? Rent home buying go with cold clear logic and rent I mean I I am for the renting if you're re if you're building something up And that's what I did I had a half a million dollars cash in 2009, and I said I'm gonna put it into business

Starting point is 01:14:27 instead of buying a house, and five years later, four years later, I bought a house. And then that made me money, and then I flipped and went and bought a house in Plano. That made me money, and then we eventually moved out here, and when we moved to Florida, we first rented for the first six months, and then we bought a house. And we bought a small little house,

Starting point is 01:14:42 very small little condo, is what we bought. You got that small little house here in Fort Lauderdale. Yeah, okay, so it all depends on the home ownership. I just thought it was very interesting that the governor doesn't own a house or a car. Can I give you one more piece of insight? Because I fully agree with you that if you're building something, you should rent

Starting point is 01:15:00 and you could use basically the difference to build your business. I would make the argument that you don't have to be building a business, you could be building yourself. Something, you are your own business, you are your number one asset. The number one. Adam, I got the argument, I'm moving on to the next story.

Starting point is 01:15:17 I'm thinking you're telling me some inside scoop you have on why the Santa's doesn't own a house and you're telling me you're building yourself. Well no, PBD, I'm not gonna let you just bulldoze my argument here for a second. I get it. I understand what you're saying. Because there's a lot of people out there that don't. Adam, I understand what you're saying. You do because you're smart. You're 45 years old, you don't own a house or a car. I'm a fucking multimillionaire. Yeah, you're not a multimillionaire. You're not like, you're not sitting there like absolutely on top of the world. The average person

Starting point is 01:15:43 isn't you. The average person isn't you. But they can be me. No, that's not the best life. Says who? Says who? You're saying having millions in the bank is not a good thing? You think the fear of commitment to building something?

Starting point is 01:15:58 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, what? Go ahead, what are you about to say? Go ahead, what are you about to say? What are you about to say? Why don't you own a house? Because it's way better to rent. For who?

Starting point is 01:16:08 For me. You think for you it's better to rent? 100%. You think it's good for you? Because I'll give you numbers. Yeah, listen, I will agree. I will agree, it's better for all of us that you're now driving.

Starting point is 01:16:18 That part, I'm fully with you. We're on the same page there. I don't think it's a good idea. Because I've taken all the money I've saved and I bought Bitcoin I've invested into my 401k. I've invested into ETFs I've invested into index funds and the money I would have made buying which historically is what three to five percent I've made ten twenty fifty hundred percent. Yeah, I got your math DVD You're a stats guy your you're a math guy.

Starting point is 01:16:45 Tell me where I went wrong. And America, and America's broke. Most Americans are dumb, fat, broke, losers, and they're trying to improve. And I'm giving them solutions, and you're like, no. Buy a house. But you just said don't buy a house. Are you ever planning on owning a home?

Starting point is 01:17:02 Eventually, yes. Why is that? Eventually. No, no, but when will your argument be right? Well from a numbers perspective it might never be right. Okay perfect. But from an emotional perspective. I would much rather have you keep that argument and not contradict yourself. So tell me. I've been very clear on this sir. Will you ever, will you ever own a car? Will you ever own a car? If my wife wants me to buy her a car, yeah, we got to take some will you ever own a car for you? Maybe but it's not a top priority. Why would you buy a car for you? to piss you off Because the argument is... I'm not anti-buying a car. I'm saying I do it's funny how you

Starting point is 01:17:46 you I love the breakdown that you did it just came out on Valuetainment about why to do a prenup why not to do a prenup I love what you did there because what you did is you drew out the numbers and you said alright so you want to have four kids you want to have private school how much is your mortgage how much is your house and you did the math and I love that about what you did that you did math And you said, all right, so you want to have four kids, you want to have private school, how much is your mortgage, how much is your house? And you did the math. And I love that about what you did that. You did math.

Starting point is 01:18:09 Most people cannot afford a house with a mortgage, with kids, with two cars in the garage, with food, with groceries, with insurance. The math don't math. And things have shifted so astronomically in America today that you're just going to be broke if you keep perpetuating the same bullshit. Get a mortgage, get your house and a car. I'm not saying you're perpetuating that. But most people are broke. Most people are paycheck to paycheck

Starting point is 01:18:36 because they're following the old rules of life. Times have changed. Our audience that watches whatever we talk about here, okay, the average person who's minimum wage, I guarantee you they're not watching a podcast. A minimum wage person would hate our podcast. Probably is. A minimum wage person hates people like us. The person who's begging to raise minimum wage, they're not going to like a podcast like this. They're going to be sitting here saying, I can't stand what these guys are talking about. That's what they're going to say.

Starting point is 01:19:11 But the people that are watching, they want to grow. For a phase, I get it, to rent. I wrote the article. I said what I stood for. Then when later on, when you decide to have a family, wife and kids matters community matters protection matters many different things matter finances matters write-offs matter There's a lot of other arguments on the opposite side. I made that I said if you're young and single don't do it if you're married in a family You may want to consider young and did I not say that bro? You're not young

Starting point is 01:19:41 I'm giving advice to people out there saying if you're young You don't think we have 25 year olds or watching this thing like you're you're thinking about 19 years away from getting Social Security This guy you you understand what I just said to you. You're 19 years away from getting so what you want to do What you want to do is make it about me. It's not about Adam Adams doing freaking great for I'm talking about the 25 year old there with the 30 year old out there Who's like should I buy a place? No? Hector keep your money save that money with the 25 year old I am with the 25 year old and by the way that was your Russia hoax This is the other hoax that you'll eventually come out of as well. But it's going to take a while until that comes out.

Starting point is 01:20:26 Because this is with conviction, this is with life experience, that is just media bullshit. It's a life with very few commitments. It's a different life. I'm going to move on to the next story. I'm still on this story. You stay on this story, buddy, for the rest of your life you're going to be okay. I'm going to be right here, renting this story. This is three times you've tried to get to the next story.

Starting point is 01:20:46 So let's get to the next story here. Let's get to the next story. So Mac Rohn decides to file a lawsuit over claims France's first lady was born male, okay? And Rob, is this the one with Candace Owens? This is the one with Candace. Can you go to my Twitter, please? Yes, sir.

Starting point is 01:21:04 If you go to the Twitter last tweet I have, which, breaking story right there, let's just read Nick's order to content and then you can show mine. Can you show more on his tweet, Rob? Okay, there you go. Breaking news, they have filed suit against Candace Owens saying his wife is a, for saying his wife is a man. The discovery in this case is going wild. Macron accuses Owens of publishing outlandish, defamatory and far-fetched fictions that fueled campaign of global humiliation

Starting point is 01:21:35 and relentless bullying. The 215 page suit was just filed in Delaware. No response from Owens yet. Then, go back to my tweet and I said, this is a terrible move by Macron. They better be 100% right. I can only imagine what discovery phase of the lawsuit will look like. They may find something. So they're gonna find something, all right.

Starting point is 01:21:56 And this is this Candace responding to that? Yes, sir. Okay, go for it. You were born a man and you will die a man. That's the point I'm making. So give us a sample. I'll send my doctors to take your blood. Figure it out real quick. However you want to go about this. Hey, how about just giving us some pictures again of you growing up, you know, raising your children? That would be fine. For whatever reason to phone, by the way. Like I said, we'll get to

Starting point is 01:22:18 the bottom of it, right? That is what discovery is for. I'm going to ask a lot of questions. You're probably hoping, oh, you know, this will go away and Elise will say we sued her. We'll say we went after her. She'll probably file for this to get dismissed. I'd like to make it to discovery. I think that we owe that to the world. Anyways, you guys, we are revolting against this.

Starting point is 01:22:42 We're revolting against the perverts that run the world. And I wanna be very clear here, I count you among them. I think you're sick, I think you're disgusting. And I am fully prepared to take on this battle on behalf of the entire world, okay? That's what I'm gonna say. On behalf of the entire world, I will see you in court. You can pause right there.

Starting point is 01:23:04 What a dumb move by Macron. Absolutely what a dumb move by Macron. There's nothing about this move. Adam, what are your thoughts on this story here? Start with your name. You wanted to talk about the story. I'll go, count me in coach. And here's the thing that nobody's talking about her her team didn't get the lawsuit like

Starting point is 01:23:30 Whoever the PR to prop you find out who the PR team is It's a PR team from here that deals with a crisis management Yeah, their crisis management path So they went they put went to the Financial Times with the story Tommy and they released it there You know how Candice found out? The same way we found out online. So that's what they found out from Financial Times and that tells you everything. This was never about truth, it's about headlines.

Starting point is 01:23:53 Let's go back. What Candice did, the research, what we learned about her is when she wants a topic and she figures it out, remember when she first started talking about this? Me and Pac walk into UFC, Tom, and she's just bouncing around in the back. And I'm like, Candice, we hug, we give each other love. And then she's like, you're not gonna believe this. And me and her sat there for one hour, and I was like, and Pac's talking to everybody.

Starting point is 01:24:16 I forgot who was there. And then Pat looks at me and goes, what's wrong? And I go, Cron's wife is a dude. And I was like, what the hell are you talking about? So she does the research. They hit the bee's nest and they they pissed off the wrong person So they hire the American crisis firm and that's the move That's what you do when you just want people to like look like pay like oh look what I'm doing I'm pressing charges, but like what this is the first time ever a sitting world leader is suing a

Starting point is 01:24:47 podcaster, a content creator. From a different country. From a different country, but it's not, this is, you nailed it. This is the problem. They're going to have to show documents. They're going to have to show medical records. She nailed it. You skipped a step. Go back.

Starting point is 01:25:00 Tell everybody what they offered her originally. They wanted her to be quiet and they sent an emissary and they offered Candace a bunch of money. Yeah, they offered her cash first An annuity or settlement or settlement paid like an annuity Yeah, they did exactly and then in the back and here's the thing guys, it's so simple It's so simple all you have to do to shut the world up they're making it bigger do a blood test have have an outside entity but you can't just say okay give us the blood test they're gonna put a dudes have a blood test show it just prove it you want to shut her up

Starting point is 01:25:39 prove it which when it comes down to it this is what she nailed that's a great point that was overlooked what she said when it comes to to it, this is what she nailed, that's a great point that was overlooked what she said. When it comes to elite, to hell with the boys and the girls, okay I don't even give a shit, male, female, whatever. It's the pedophilia part that people aren't talking about, okay. That's the real point. I don't give a damn boy or a girl, live your truth or false, whatever the hell. The fact that the media and the power structures are more focused on the gender accusations. These guys, this apparently her teacher groomed her, groomed Macron when he was 14 allegedly. And it was so bad that

Starting point is 01:26:13 Macron's parents, Rob fact-check me, took him out of that that class. They're like no this guy's a freaking girl, whatever the hell he was, she was. A pervert. They're obsessed with covering up pedophilia. That's the pattern. From Epstein to this, to McCrone's wife, husband or whatever, it's the same playbook every single time. And it's like they always get away with it. And I'm happy that she's staying on to it. Them suing her is the biggest mistake they're ever going to make because now we're going

Starting point is 01:26:37 to find out the truth. But they felt for her trap though. That's the beauty of it. They fell for her trap. Good. They fell for her trap. And it's such beauty of it. They fell for her trap good. They fell for her trap and it's it's such a Amateur trap like what are you doing?

Starting point is 01:26:50 What are you doing? She got exactly what she wanted from you? Yep. She wanted you to sue her. Mm-hmm She wanted you to do this. Yes, she won because now that you're doing that Okay, and story comes out, say story comes out and she does, or you know, whatever, he does the blood work. And it comes out you're a female. Guess what? Done with. You win. That's right. It's done. It's a very easy thing to do. But if you two, one, you have two choices. Do the blood work, don't do the blood work. Let's go through both of it.

Starting point is 01:27:29 You don't do the blood work, you're a man. I agree, yes. You do the blood work, you're either a man or a woman. So if you do the blood work, you're a woman, uh oh, bad look for Candice. But you do the blood work and you're a man, game over. It's a wrap. So what's the chances she will agree to do the blood?

Starting point is 01:27:47 Zero absolutely not I'm with Tommy Percent. Yep, it happens at all Tom and it's funny is McCrone wants us all to believe that this marriage is like Hawaii. Why okay warning dad joke Thanks, Pat. Think of things about it Coke no nuts I'm sorry guys. Okay, Adam go ahead. Adam tell us. So Bridget McCrone is a man. She's a woman. She's a man. I could just imagine Trump on his daily activities. All right, Mr. Trump, Suzy Wiles here. We're going to go over the top five things we got to cover today. Right now we got tariffs.

Starting point is 01:28:25 We've got China. We see what's going on with the EU, India. We just struck a deal with Japan. Cool. We got wars, Russia, Ukraine. Got it. Israel. We're going to see what's happening with Taiwan.

Starting point is 01:28:35 Immigration, the border shut down, terrorism. You know, we were stopping a lot of things out there. We see what's going on. But the biggest thing we got to locate Bridget McCrone's Dangleang. We got to figure this thing out. The world wants to know what's going on. Candice did a whole thing about this. It's one of the highest viewed shows going on there.

Starting point is 01:28:55 We got to find that dick. We got to do it. And I feel like there's a lot of people who genuinely put that at the top of their list. Kind of like my Epstein thing. Is it important to know? Is it relevant? Sure, how does this change your life if they find out the truth or not? How does it change your life? Because in my opinion there's people who are just not following this whatsoever. There's people who are interested Yeah, there's people who are focused and there's people who are completely obsessed with this. Yeah, they've watched every single episode

Starting point is 01:29:24 Yeah, they know everything that's going on here And there's people who are completely obsessed with this. They've watched every single episode. They know everything that's going on here. Are they losers? There are a lot of losers out there. There's a lot of losers out there. And here, let me say one thing. We just talked about the people not buying a house or whatever. I guarantee you, there's people out there, 50 pounds overweight,

Starting point is 01:29:40 broke, struggling to figure out their life, who are like, I'll tell you everything you want to know about Bridget's McCrone's dangling. I know everything. Yeah. And those people are losers. But ready for this, Adam? This isn't like a Jersey Shore episode and snooty and situation. Yep. All mixed up. But there's a difference in a French penis. Those people are just a reality TV, whatever. Why people are is, Adam, if it's true, if this is true, this dude groomed a 14 year old boy who became the president of a- He decided to marry her. No, him.

Starting point is 01:30:16 Oh no, hold on. Yeah, but Adam, go bring him back. The grooming. Same thing with Epstein. I'll ask you one very- Underage. I'm gonna ask you one specific question. They find out the truth here, no hyperbole.

Starting point is 01:30:27 How does this affect or change your life at all? No, I wanna count a bit. Does it change your life at all? Does it help you at all? Actually, it changes the global, like Adam, think about what happens to the world. It changes the what? Let's do this, let's do this.

Starting point is 01:30:41 Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I should be laser focused on this. You realize we're running a podcast and you realize it's reacting this. Okay. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I should be laser focused on this. Go ahead. You realize we're running a podcast and you realize it's reacting to a story. If you don't give a shit about the story, say I don't give a shit about the story. I'm not coming to you. So let's stay on the story and to you, this is a nothing burger. Let's go to some people that actually care and want to know opinions, not facts. So podcast. I so podcasts, this is not that big of a deal. We're talking about it, so let's stay on that.

Starting point is 01:31:09 What's your opinion? My opinion on this is embarrassing for a world leader of a country like France, if this is exposed, in the EU with the relationship that he has, it's an absolute embarrassment if the story comes out that have you and I met other girls that are married? What do you think about when you hear stories of a man married to a girl that's 20 years older? How old is he by what's the age difference gap between the two of these guys?

Starting point is 01:31:43 He was 14 and she was he was 14 pan she he was for 39 what is 25 years so what do you think about a man who is a leader of a nation marrying somebody 25 years older completely weird 24 years old against nature that's a very weird age gap this is a world that's like a toy this you're a player, it's not like a desperate man. Correct. A 25 year old marrying a 49 year old. So why did the losers in France vote for him?

Starting point is 01:32:12 No, no, no. But where I'm going with this is, if this gets leaked, there's a couple things here, okay? Credit to where credit's due. I had Hannity on on Tuesday. And then we talked about Tucker and all this other stuff and this person and that person and this person, all the names were coming up.

Starting point is 01:32:30 And one of the things was, you know, why do you now regret offering Tucker 100 million dollars? I think you asked me that question, right? And what did I tell you? I said to me, when you look at people that are content creators, journalists, whatever you want to take it, podcasters, there is a few things that makes a talent get eyeballs.

Starting point is 01:32:55 One high level of trust where they feel like they're reasonable. Two they're entertaining. Like for example, Joe seems like a guy you trust. People believe him. What does Rogan think about it? It's a very high score for him. Entertaining. You're funny, you're a good storyteller, you're entertaining to watch, right?

Starting point is 01:33:17 Three, you bring constant value to me. Four is people want to know your perspective. I wonder what he thinks about it. I wonder what he thinks about it. I wonder what she thinks about it. Oh my God, emergency podcast. What does PBD Podcast crew think about it? What does XYZ think about it, right? You know what the other one is?

Starting point is 01:33:36 Somebody that's willing to take a risk on a story. And that risk could do what? Destroy them. Destroy them or, for people to say, respect. Guess what? This girl goes up and look, we just did a podcast two months ago disagreeing with, I would never have my son serve the military and all this other stuff and I'm like, yeah, I'm not with it.

Starting point is 01:33:56 I'm proud to be an American. You're saying when Candice said that. Candice said that. I'm not with it. We talked about this. Yeah. And what did you say? You said something about, was it that one or was it another position that you...

Starting point is 01:34:07 No, it was just a conversation. Even if you talk to the president and he gave you the key, my thing was just in secrecy, like when we talk, I don't share it with anybody. That's what it was. That's just me. That's what I said. President Trump called and said this. Okay, great.

Starting point is 01:34:21 But in this case here, if this comes out to be true, you know why this is massive because it means podcasters are getting the attention of presidents and prime ministers To create the truth to come out something that the BBC's of the world couldn't do and guess what? You got gotta respect that, period, if somebody does that. That's why this is important, if it happens or not. Do I really care? No.

Starting point is 01:34:54 Do I care whether he's married to a guy or not? I think it's weird. Do I tell my guys, my kids, hey, he's a great example of a man? Absolutely not. Do I go up there and say, hey, look, you can also one day marry somebody 24 years older. When you were 14 years old, your teacher was 38, you can one day marry him or her or whatever you want to call it. We're going to find that here soon.

Starting point is 01:35:18 That's kind of weird. But in this context, oof, this thing just got spicier. And that means, again, another one of those things, if you're double dumb and you want a story to continue, do exactly what Macron did to Candice. Congratulations, dummies. You officially extended the story for, you know how long? Do you know how long they extended the story? You think this is going to go for a week?

Starting point is 01:35:42 You think it's going to go for a month? You think it's going to go for a week? You think it's gonna go for a month? You think it's gonna go for a year? This is gonna be extended for 24 months to 36 months is what they just did. Double, double dumb on them. Double dumb on them of what they did. They're 100% right. If they're 100% right, then like I said,

Starting point is 01:36:04 and if they are 100% right, guess who's gets this and this is goes into the garbage if they're a hundred percent Right if they're a hundred percent right but by the way here's the thing though If somebody right now accused you of being a girl before Okay, but hear me out if somebody accused Adam of being not not gay, but somebody says you were born a woman Yeah, somebody says you're born a woman. Yep. Somebody says the truth is out Vinny's born a woman Those are all implants the hair. Tom's a woman. Okay. Yes. Let me ask you a question. Yes, sir If you know for a fact That you're a man, how do you actually react to that?

Starting point is 01:36:43 I actually want to be honest with you if somebody says you're born. How do you react and let you say let's choose a podcaster Mm-hmm every single week this podcaster he or she keep saying Vinny's a woman Vinny's a woman Vinny Come out and say it. We all know your girl your voice cracks every once in a while. Hey Adam We know you're a girl. Why don't you show the picture of you and them? Oh yeah. Okay, what are you gonna do? Time for discovery, ladies and gentlemen. I asked to go on their podcast,

Starting point is 01:37:12 and I'm on camera, go behind the towel, and I'll flash them and be like, what is that? Number one, number one. All right, so then you're definitely a small man. That's number one, the proof is in the pudding. And number two, bring a blood test, draw me right there, show me right there. There's one above't flash that. No, I can't flash that. Number one. That's number one. The proof is in the pudding. And number two, bring a blood test. Draw me right there.

Starting point is 01:37:27 Show me right there. There's one above both of that. You know what it is? Birth certificate? No, no, no, no, no. There's one above all of it. Adam's apple. No, there's one above all of it.

Starting point is 01:37:37 What the fuck are you talking about? Like there's not even a need to respond. Yeah. Okay. Nothing. Good point. There's like, what do you mean like I'm a woman? I don't know if you understand what I'm saying to you right now. Like when somebody says something,

Starting point is 01:37:53 let me tell you, they're getting their money from this and they're getting their money from, yeah, say it. Like what am I gonna tell you? They're one money, we're getting money from Qatar, we're getting money from Assad. Who the hell are we getting money from? I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Clients.

Starting point is 01:38:05 If we get up there, it's like, let me tell you what's going on. Pump the brakes, buddy. The fact that you sued your frickin' double dumb community, what the hell are you thinking? Just say French. You just validated your point. What a double dumb move by them. I mean, I don't even know what else to tell you about this. Imagine the conversations that they're having. validated point. What a double-dumb move by them.

Starting point is 01:38:25 I don't even know what else to tell you about this. Imagine the conversations that they're having. Who the hell was the advisor that said, let's sue? It's the PR, I'm pretty sure it's the PR team. If you came to me and I said, you came to me, you're at the house 10 o'clock at night, you're crying, you're like, Pat, this girl won't stop saying I'm a girl, what should I do? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:38:41 Impregnator? No, like what do you think I'm gonna say? You better sue her. What are you talking about? Like, but it's not like you're making a fantastic argument. But it's not like Candace did a podcast or two about this. She did a full on Netflix series about Bridget McCrone's alleged Venus. You know it's like such a dumb thing to want to sue.

Starting point is 01:39:03 But bro. Unless you're right 24 years older you may not 14 years old. That's criminal. That's very criminal. That's criminal I mean, I don't give your girl or a guy. What are you talking about? This says a lot about the French though. What are you talking about? Says a lot about that society. This is some of the stuff that who the hell is in your ear Who is in your ear? Who is in your ear? But anyways, it doesn't help that there was that video of him getting smacked upside the head by him or her

Starting point is 01:39:34 What is our we just got a kinky thing that we've been doing I mean, he's been punching me since I was a 14 year old student after class when I would get detention I mean you're giving us such easy jokes that elementary kids can make jokes about this. That reaction when you got the flipping on double dumb. What a double dumb thing to do. That reaction when he got slapped in the face. What a dumb thing. Okay Vinny I'm coming to the next one. Jacksonville Florida police investigating viral video showing officer punching driver in the face. Okay, we've seen this video. So if you want to play the video that we've all seen, guys, brace for impact.

Starting point is 01:40:12 That's a little bit disturbing when you watch the video, guy gets smacked upside the head by a cop and then Vinny's got a bunch of stuff that he wants to say. So I'm giving you warning. It's a little bit disturbing. He's going to get hit in the face. Vinny, if you want to tell us what's going on so far, just for this video, not the other context of stuff, what happened to Sussman?

Starting point is 01:40:27 What led up to it? So what led up to it? Okay, so William McNeil Jr., he's getting pulled over, and thank you, Pac, he didn't have his headlights on during inclement weather, and just an FYI to everybody out there that's like, what? It's law in Florida. If your wipers are on, your headlights have to be on too.

Starting point is 01:40:45 On top of that, he wasn't wearing a seatbelt. So now all you're getting, and mind you, this incident happened months ago. He waited a month and then just posted this one piece of content to get the public pissed off and this is when he starts. And then I have Rob, I sent Rob a video of the pre thing, but is what this guy William McNeil posted so Rob go ahead and post this is that the guy's driving and just a clarification the traffic stop happened in February the video footage was obtained in March and then they sat on this until July to release it he did he did he waited months and I'll tell you

Starting point is 01:41:22 what because the sheriff does something great in this interview But go ahead Rob play. He keeps looking at Tom stop Tom go back a little bit. Go for it. Go ahead When he pulled me over he walked up over my door cuz my window don't work, right? And then he I said I said so what I did wrong. He said well for one Your headlights are off under this weather. I'm like There's multiple people headlights off first of all and then there's no rain. It doesn't matter. You're still required to have headlights on. Can you pull that law up? There's no rain. There's water on the window up top of the

Starting point is 01:41:55 sun roof. Can you call your supervisor? Can you call your supervisor? All right, go for it. Oh, damn. Exit the vehicle now. Exit the vehicle. Show me your hands. Here. 10-60-JJ-10-33-S, 15-11-H. I'm here. What is your reason, sir?

Starting point is 01:42:20 What is your reason? Step out now. All right. Get on the ground. No, no, no, no. No, we're resisting arrest. Res, resisting arrest, fighting the cops. Fighting the cops. Okay now, now you guys see this video, if you just see this, what are you seeing? What do you, how deceiving is social media? You see this and oh my God the cops are bad mind you mind you mind you

Starting point is 01:42:47 By the way the cop that hit him PBD with the with the hit he's under investigation He was relieved of duties that's being dealt with but now what you guys didn't see and Rob Can you play the clip that I sent you? Yeah, just so you know where where the actual window breaking happens is more than six minutes into the traffic Yeah, so this is Bob. I sent you one that has... I got it. Yeah, so remember, six, almost six and a half minutes of dealing with this guy. And so why? They're going to show you this.

Starting point is 01:43:13 I want you guys to see this and I'm going to say my piece. Go ahead. Can you call your supervisor? Can you call your supervisor? All right, go for it. Okay, now watch this. Is there a reason why you're popping the door open like that? I don't have a window that works. Is there a reason why you're popping the door open like that? I don't have a window that works. Is there a reason that you're pulling me over?

Starting point is 01:43:28 Yeah, absolutely there's a reason why I'm pulling you over. For one thing, in clomid weather you don't have your lights on. Two things, you're not wearing your seatbelt. It's daylight, I don't need the lights. And it's not weather, it's not raining. Oh, this is in clomid? It's not raining. Okay, I'm not arguing with you, I'm telling you why I'm pulling you over. Give me your driver's license, registration, proof of insurance. No, no, no.

Starting point is 01:43:44 Why? Excuse me? Call your, registration, proof of insurance. No, no, no. Excuse me? Call your supervisor. Step out of here. Step out. Look, no, and then, okay, locks the door. Watch this, watch this, Tom.

Starting point is 01:43:53 Slam the door and lock it. Call your supervisor. We're going to break the window. I already told you. Right now you're under arrest for resisting. Sir, it is your last warning. Watch this. Open the vehicle and exit

Starting point is 01:44:04 before we're gonna break the window open the door and exit Oh, we are going to break the window Three times to break the window open the door four times for resisting Five times under arrest for resisting You are under arrest for resisting You are arrest for resisting. Open the door and exit. You are under arrest for resisting. I'm about to break the window. Okay now, guys, okay.

Starting point is 01:44:30 So see how this went. Rob, I'm going to have you play the the sheriff in a second. But guys, he just like pulls out the phone, okay? Posted online like he's the victim. And then the internet goes crazy. The officer like I said is going to get in trouble. But here's the thing, and I want everybody to

Starting point is 01:44:46 understand this. If you're getting pulled over and they're asking for your driver's license and you're thinking, just listen, if you have no warrants, you have a valid license, just comply. He could have been on the road in five minutes, okay? But the guy wanted this moment, all right? And when they searched his car, Rob, guess what they found? An unsheathed, serrated knife sitting on the passenger side on the floorboard, okay? The cops were saying that he reached for it. I think they're still disputing that, but you know what this reminds me of? You guys remember when Tyree Kill was going to the Miami Games? Of course, yeah.

Starting point is 01:45:17 Speeding like a maniac, got pulled over, okay? Closes the door, closes the window, arguing with the police, okay? He acted like an entitled rich freaking brat. He didn't want to listen because the rules don't apply with him and then guess what when they interview him you know what he said? I'm just being a black man. That's it. I'm just being a black man in America bruh. That's not it.

Starting point is 01:45:37 Okay that's not why you got pulled over. Okay you were driving like an idiot and there's this sentiment now towards cops back and especially like in the younger community, the African American community, it's like, no, I ain't got to do shit, roll out the window, just comply, okay? You're never going to deal with this situation if you just listen. We all do it. Give me your driver's license. I don't put on a camera and try to fight with a freaking cop.

Starting point is 01:46:02 Just listen to what they're saying. It's the law. It's the law. It's the law. It's a traffic stop, okay? This guy would never be in this situation. Same thing with George Floyd. If George Floyd wasn't a scumbag, he never would have met that cop, Derek Chauvin,

Starting point is 01:46:15 if you weren't a scumbag. Okay, and this guy's a scumbag in my eyes. And Rob, play this video of what the sheriff said. Social media is not reality. One video clip, devoid of context, can be very misleading. Given that Maynille never brought this incident to JSO's attention, but rather pushed the cell phone camera footage that he had in his possession since March 5th out on social media, one can only assume, and I'm saying I assume, that he intended

Starting point is 01:46:41 to inflame the public. The administrative process is still ongoing, and as such, I will neither defend nor commend Officer Bauer's response to resistance until all the facts are known and the investigation is completed. However, as the leader of this agency, I will not remain silent. All important facts and information are buried to advance an anti-police agenda.

Starting point is 01:47:03 The truth is, William McNeil Jr. was non-compliant with JSO officers within 21 seconds after he was stopped for multiple civil infractions. His non-compliance quickly rose to the level of criminal resistance to a police officer. McNeil was arrested and pled guilty to resisting a police officer without violence. Force absolutely looks ugly. And because all force is ugly, whether or not the officer involved acted within outside JSO policy, that's still what we're investigating. That punch, by the way, he's getting under investigation. That cop was relieved of his duty and good, do an investigation and get him in trouble.

Starting point is 01:47:37 But this attitude, this sentiment towards cops of the hell with them and they're just trying to kill us, that's horse shit. And the stats are on our side. Just comply. Give me your driver's license. You know how easy that is? Here. Okay, officer, I didn't know.

Starting point is 01:47:54 I'm sorry. Let me put them on. Bye. You're gone in five minutes. Instead you would have played this. Pull out the window, close up, not listen. That's what you get. That's what you get.

Starting point is 01:48:03 But don't try to, that's why he's trying to inflame the public and try to make us against cops, all the cops are trying to kill us. His family was speaking up too like, oh, it's just because he's a black man and not bullshit. It's because you're acting like that and that's the behavior. Adam, I just love the way that this sort of played out. I like the way that our friend Rob sort of teed this up because if you only see the first video first,

Starting point is 01:48:22 He's a victim. I was shocked. Shocked. And then the one thing, like, because if you only see the first video first, he's a victim. I was shocked. Yeah. Shocked. And then the one thing like, punch him in the face. I'm like, oh my, here it is again. George Floyd.

Starting point is 01:48:32 Yeah, exactly. Michael Smith, here it is. And you know the weirdest part? The weirdest part, I don't know if you could play that video, Rob. As soon as the glass breaks, he's calming. Do you see how calm that dude is?

Starting point is 01:48:42 Yeah, he knows what he's doing. He knows what he's doing. See how, as if it's like, I expected this. Yeah. And like I expected this yeah and it's on camera and it's on camera it was like that was the way to call me is watch look how calm is yeah yeah my camera's running because he knew this was going to course of course and what's so looks. What's so important is playing the beginning and then also the ending of this because it tells the truth. Part of me when I'm watching this, he doesn't look like a bad kid.

Starting point is 01:49:18 I'm sorry guys. He doesn't look like a bad kid. I'm watching this thing, right after he gets hit in the face, go back to it, Rob. And I know this is not a popular position I'm taking right now. Go back to when he's getting hit in the face, okay? And he holds, okay, press play right there. And we don't mean to be playing this ever,

Starting point is 01:49:38 so watch this, boom, immediately hands go up. Yep. Okay, hands go up. And the way he talks, he's talks, does this guy have a criminal record or no? Does he have a criminal record? However, February, no, February was resisting. No previous record.

Starting point is 01:49:56 Let's just assume he's not a criminal. No, but I'm actually really cute, but let me go through it, and I'm gonna go with a very different angle. Can you find out if this guy's got a criminal record? Nothing about his, that moment behavior tells if this guy's got a criminal record? Nothing about his that moment behavior tells me the guy's got a criminal record. Does he have a criminal record?

Starting point is 01:50:10 Someone described a 22 year old biology major in a marching band. He gives me a vibe of a marching band guy. Member at Livingston College, no prior convictions, they're pleaded guilty and resisting. Okay, so, okay, hang on. Just wait for me. Just wait for me on where I'm going here. Can you play the clip with the stepfather, Rob? Go to the stepfather, play the guilty and resisting? Okay, so, okay, hang on. Just wait for me. Just wait for me on why I'm going here.

Starting point is 01:50:25 Can you play the clip with the stepfather, Rob? Go to the stepfather, play the clip, okay? Go to the stepfather, play the clip, and yeah, go make it bigger, and then go to the next slide, let him play, and then the stepdad speaks, and then the lawyer speaks. Zoom in a little bit.

Starting point is 01:50:40 This is him? Yeah. And he did nothing wrong. You wait for it. The step that comes from... I was really just scared. Just see that video made me go back to when I was 22. It hurt it. It hurt it. It made me upset. But I seen what my son did that I had to do. Okay, pause right there. All right, so unfortunately, unfortunately,

Starting point is 01:51:14 last night something happened with one of our kids. Anyways, and I have to go pick him up, and I'm talking to him, and we're having a long conversation on the way back. You know what the conversation was? Hey, you screwed up. What are you having to do? Doesn't change my unconditional love for you.

Starting point is 01:51:36 Doesn't change the fact that I'm gonna be your dad for the rest of your life. Doesn't change the fact that you always know you can count on me. Always, you can count on me, but guess what? You screwed up. And that causes a decision to be made. Okay?

Starting point is 01:51:55 How much you think this kid up until this point lived in a household or a community or mentors that have been feeding Kim this thing about black this and cops this how many years do you think he's been fed this? A lot and the media doesn't help. He doesn't give me the vibe that he's that guy though. He just did this because it's been fed to him. He gave me the vibes of a good boy that is trying to be better. But guess what?

Starting point is 01:52:21 When someone the basic stuff when the law tells you, hey, cop pulls you over, do what they ask you to do. The only reason you would behave like that is because someone fed you nonsense and now this is what's happening. You're not a victim. You're not a victim. There's laws. Follow the law.

Starting point is 01:52:43 Here's why I pulled you over. This is what happened. It's such a disappointing thing. And then the other part is the lawyer that shows back, it's the same lawyer that you've seen before. If you go back to the link, Rob, and you go to the third slide with the exact Instagram thing I sent you, you've seen this guy's face before. There's these guys that this is a business model. They just wait for things like this to happen. And that same lawyer always shows up? It's that lawyer. You see him all the time. Go to the last one. That's it Ben Crump is yeah, you always see him in situations like this

Starting point is 01:53:11 It's kind of like the other lawyer who was the goat on sexual harassment. Oh, yeah, girl the girl her name They did a documentary on her now not Albright. That's a different name What is their name Tom? I had her on a podcast 12 years ago 11 years ago Gloria all right. Oh, yes,red. Gloria Allred. All right. Guess what Gloria's daughter does? Same exact thing she does. You know that? Same exact thing she does that her daughter does.

Starting point is 01:53:30 Give or take. So, I don't know. I'm watching this kid, I'm like, dude, if a better person was in your ear, you would be someone else. You ever seen Tupac when he was younger? People claim he was gay. You ever seen the Tupac? It's like, well, I don't know.

Starting point is 01:53:43 All I know is the fact that when it comes down to art you know I'm very you know this this is that Right and then all of a sudden couple years later. That's it. This is the interview you ever seen look at the way He talks his name is Tupac Shakur, and I attend Tamapai High School And I'm 17 years old 17 such a weird age is that in such a in the middle age. You're not 18 yet and you're older than 16. But I like it. It's nice. It's like a learning stage for me. I like the way he speaks. Body language. How many tattoos do you see? None.

Starting point is 01:54:18 Okay. Well 18... All right, who got a hold of him all of a sudden? What got a hold of him all of a sudden? This guy turns out to become a gangster, tough guy. That's why you fat mother, is that all I need is in the life of sin is me and my girlfriend. That's the troublesome guy. That's that guy. That's the life goes on. You know, that's that guy. You know, I don't know. Dude, the wrong person in your ear can destroy your life. The right person in your ear can help you out, man.

Starting point is 01:54:50 So my biggest challenge with that is, who's in your ear? You're some of the guys that end up winning at the highest level and they make money and they grew up in an environment that there was a lot of mess going on. Who's in your ear? This kid? You know who's in your ear? Just being fed victimhood mentality. Being fed victimhood mentality. Being fed victimhood mentality and you're buying it. Okay? Parents,

Starting point is 01:55:14 when it comes down to your kids, when your kids screw up, they screw up. Let them face the consequences. Have their back. Do everything Ken as a parent. But they need to know it's a screw up. Just like we went through it. Tom and I were having a conversation yesterday. And when Tom was a kid, he was also pretty,

Starting point is 01:55:35 what's the word? There's a word for it. Rambunctious? Astute? By the way, people see Tom right now as a final product. Tom was, you know, he got in trouble in a different way. Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

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Starting point is 01:55:58 like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like Okay? So, but what is that? Somebody at one point of your life taught you, you screwed up. Man up. You screwed up. And unfortunately, somebody told this guy, it's the cops' fault. And now, he's going to have a dishonest father every time he goes to a job interview. What happened? Well, let me tell you, it wasn't fair.

Starting point is 01:56:20 Go to an employer and say it wasn't fair. Who the hell wants to hire somebody that always says it's not fair? The moment I'm in an interview and I catch the language of it's not fair, victimhood, blame, bashing the previous boss, I'm not attracted to you. You literally can watch someone's interview and see how they speak and I'm like, yeah, no, you're going to talk shit about us here very soon. It goes back to this one guy when I'm at Oheka Castle, this one guy comes up to me and says, let me tell you Patrick, I've been in New York life, I've been in Primarica, I've been in Transamerica, I've never had a good leader to work with.

Starting point is 01:56:58 Now I found you, I know everything's gonna change. And I told him, I said, no, no, very soon, I'm gonna be the fourth bad guy you work for, and you're gonna go to a different company. Couple years later, same exact thing happened. Gone. Gone. There's a pattern, and that language is either taught as the individual.

Starting point is 01:57:15 So, to me, when I'm watching this kid, this is not a bad kid. It's not a bad kid. He effed up. Don't get me wrong, like I'm not sitting here telling you, it's a screw up, yes, and the media using it to pin, it's black on black. And I love the fact that the sheriff that was speaking on TV is a black guy. You don't think he wants to help another guy out?

Starting point is 01:57:35 Watch this movie that I keep telling everybody to watch, it's called The Forge. Do you end up watching The Forge or no? I told Mario to watch The Forge, I think Mario watched The Forge, and I'm telling a bunch of people. Yeah, TK Waters. I don't know who you are, sir. Thank you for your service. Respect to you. I have no idea who this man is. I've never met him. I've never spoken to him. The way he handled himself, I guarantee you he probably has some positive influence on some young men around him. Nephews, kids in school that got in trouble that he challenged them to get better. I had a guy like this in the Army and they fixed me. They challenged the hell out of me when I was 18 years old and I was acting up and put me in my place. We need

Starting point is 01:58:17 men like this. These are the heroes that we, what's that Tom? He grew up in the Army. Did he really? His father served in the United States Army as a command sergeant and he grew up as a military brat, stationed at several bases with his dad. Isn't that awesome? That's the truth. Isn't that due to his father's service while they were planning Marines but changed his mind when a cousin was killed in 1990 during a robbery in Ramona, a neighborhood of Jacksonville?

Starting point is 01:58:40 So I don't know, man. I don't like hearing stories like this and it bothers me for two reasons because that kid is one decision away from being an incredible citizen and living a great life and the people who keep feeding this victimhood bullshit mentality are going to keep continuing this behavior. It's never going to stop. But he's not George Floyd. This kid's not George Floyd. This kid is not any of those other kids that we read about.

Starting point is 01:59:05 This is actually a good kid. But Pat, it could have easily become something crazier, because Rob, can you show really quick when they break the glass of the car, this is what's laying on the passenger side on the floor. When you're a cop and you see that, that's a whole different situation. And remember, he leans into that side. You don't know what the hell's going on. You don't know why he's resisting.

Starting point is 01:59:27 So going back to the initial point, just follow their instructions and that's it. That's it. You don't never, it never has to escalate to that. What is that, buddy? Is that a, is that a, uh, un-shield, crocodile dundee knife? Okay. So that's a crocodile dundee knife laying on the floor on top of ramen. That's water. Do you see anything wild, anything crazy there or no?

Starting point is 01:59:47 No, deodorant. Is that deodorant? Yeah. So the only thing is the knife. Yeah. But do you see crack pipes? Do you see anything like that? No, no, no.

Starting point is 01:59:54 I don't see anything like that. Adam. Look, you don't know what someone's going through until you really kind of step into their shoes. Yesterday I was having a conversation here at Valuetainment and it's a guy we know we all know we all love him. And I was like, What's up, man? You okay? He's like, you don't know what I'm dealing with right now. And he went down a

Starting point is 02:00:11 laundry list of things that's going on with his family. I was like, Oh, man, I'm so I had no idea. Oh, your father, man, I feel for you. And he's like, people don't know what I'm going through right now. People don't know. And I was like, man, like, I hear you. And we're all going through things and Put yourself in this guy's shoes, you know, we all have our you know, they say, you know, it's my truth It's my truth. It's my truth You know, there's something that a lot of black people have to go through what's called being black while driving and we don't know

Starting point is 02:00:39 What it's like to be black while driving. We don't know we all deal with this What did you tell that guy whoever that guy's I don't know. We all deal with this. I'm curious, what did you tell that guy? What did you tell that guy? Whoever that guy is. I don't know who you're talking about, but what did you tell that guy? I told him a lot of times it has to do with improving yourself. I said you have all this chaos around you, how do you feel about yourself right now? It's like no, I'm not happy with where I'm at. I got to do this, I got to do that, I got to improve. I said you're absolutely right right It's kind of like the airplane analogy It's like put on the oxygen mask on yourself before you start helping others. You want to help everybody?

Starting point is 02:01:09 You can't fix all these people around you. Yeah, you have to improve yourself. I want to move But I'll say just one thing. Yeah, everyone out there is doing with thing Like you don't understand what Jews want how sensitive they are about the Holocaust You understand how Armenians are about the genocide that happened in Turkey you understand understand, you know, he said, Assyrians don't say things about their mom. You don't know what blacks were driving. You don't know what it's like to be Hispanic and be an immigrant here. You don't like what it's a woman. Be gay. We all have our different things that we are dealing with. And I totally understand. Okay. You put yourself in these people's shoes. I understand why that young black kid was hesitant to step out of the car. No, no, no,

Starting point is 02:01:42 hold on. I understand. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

Starting point is 02:01:53 wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Adam, the question, if he was white or Spanish, would they have done the same thing? Absolutely. I'm not making it a race thing. Absolutely. I'm making it, this is what you're feeling.

Starting point is 02:02:11 No, I'm not feeling, I know. You've seen countless stories like George Floyd, like Michael Brown, like this, like that. I'm moving on, bro. I am not with that premise position you took. That's not where I'm going. I'm going to, whoever's in that kid's ear destroys his life. And he's got to know as an adult, if you live in a screwed up environment, you

Starting point is 02:02:32 know what's right or wrong. You hit a certain age that you know you're doing something dumb. At what age do you know you're doing something dumb? Tell me. But hang on, I'm asking you guys. At what age do we learn that we're doing something dumb? When you're a kid. At what age I'm asking you guys. At what age do we learn that we're doing something dumb? When you're a kid. At what age? Tell me what age. At what age do you know you're doing something dumb? Five, six, ten? I don't know. What do you think it is? I'm actually asking you. At what age do you know you're doing something stupid? Do I need somebody to tell me don't smoke

Starting point is 02:02:56 crack? Do I need somebody to tell me that eating too much cheesecake is bad? At what point do you know you're making a bad decision? You're six, seven years old. Fairly young. You're in kindergarten and you're out there doing, and you suddenly, somebody gets hurt and the teacher's yelling and you're like, well that was dumb.

Starting point is 02:03:13 Okay, so. You don't have to be that old to figure it out. Tom, very basic answer. Look, six, seven years old, right? You'll learn it's bad. I'm gonna tell you this one story. Sandra Bays was a director of psychology at Glendale High School. I'm 26 years old.

Starting point is 02:03:27 She invites me to go, I said, give me the most troubled kids in the school. I want to go work with them. I'm an alumni. I want to work with this class. They give me 30 kids. And I go in there, I got all these gangsters, 14-year-old girls that are pregnant and what do you call the ankle, the bracelets. These are those kids, right? I have them. And so Sandra Baez is sitting there. If she hears this, she will remember this. We have pictures, we have videos.

Starting point is 02:03:52 It was a great conversation that we had, but I'm in there. None of it was publicized, it's always been private. And I start going one by one, I'm going, so you don't know, you don't know my life. Oh really? Yeah, I don't know your, you don't know what life I lived. Okay, perfect. Let's do an exercise, buddy.

Starting point is 02:04:10 What's that? One by one by one, I want you to tell me how hard your life is, everybody. I'll go first, go. You know, ba ba ba, and you don't know what it is to be black. Cool. I don't. Next.

Starting point is 02:04:27 I'm being pressured because I'm short and girls are judging me. Never forget that kid, Armenian kid. Cool. They make fun of me because I'm super short. It was a super short kid. Great. Painful. Next.

Starting point is 02:04:40 Boom. Next. Boom. Next. Boom. One girl, I get to her, she's like this, I'm not going to tell you. I say, you don't want to share it? No. So you don't have to share it if you're not comfortable.

Starting point is 02:04:50 And the next thing you know, she breaks down crying, runs out. Two of her friends whatever run out with her. One or two of her friends run out with her. I said, privacy, only if you're comfortable share. And remember, the director of psychology is watching an amateur, seeing, hey, you kind of crossed the line because that's why she's there. Next, by the time we're done, you hear everyone's challenges. How I got pregnant.

Starting point is 02:05:14 How this, how that. Last kid comes back in and she's breaking down. She says, you know what? I just have to say it. I just have to say it. I just have to say it. I said, only if you're comfortable. Miss Space, go ahead.

Starting point is 02:05:31 Couple months ago, whatever the timeline was, this 14-year-old girl comes home, sees dad dead from doing heroin, and a mom doesn't know how to live without him because he's the breadwinner, takes the rest, injects herself and she dies right in front of her. Let me tell you, the room is silent. Everybody is uncomfortable. You know how people are laughing, oh you are short short-talk, oh, you are, you are, you are, you are, they're making fun. No one's making fun of nobody.

Starting point is 02:06:10 No one. Sandra's sitting there, emotional. She knows the story. I don't know the story. The rest don't know the story. And everybody's like coming around her, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. It was such a beautiful moment. And you know what that was?

Starting point is 02:06:24 Here's what that was. I used that moment for the rest of my life when people would tell me how hard it is to build a business, how hard it is to raise kids, how hard it is to do this. I'm like, bro, whenever you get up thinking your life is so hard because the challenges you're feeling, you want everybody to feel sorry for you, trust me, I ask at the end, who in this room is willing to trade their problems with her? No one. I said then stop bitching about how hard life is. Because there's somebody else right now that's holding their baby and they lost them. A six-year-old, a

Starting point is 02:06:59 ten-year-old, and they lost them. That's pain. Don't tell me how hard your life is. There's somebody that lost a parent. That's life. It sucks. It catches up to us. Had a client of mine, I sent a video to him, his 35-year-old wife got brain cancer and she dies. Out of nowhere. How does that happen? Is that fair? No. But to me this concept of like, you know, you don't understand what I'm going through. You don't understand what I'm going through. Don't get me wrong, folks. I'm not telling you don't sympathize. I'm not telling you we don't need empathy. I'm not telling you I'm, I just empathize with a guy that we're sitting here talking about the fact that he's acting like a victim, I'm saying I'm empathized with him because he doesn't give me the bad vibe.

Starting point is 02:07:48 He gives me vibe of a good freaking kid. Doesn't give me any bad vibes, right? But he's been fed some bullshit that makes him feel like a victim. Some men are raised by freaking mamas that don't want to give up their sons because no one's ever good for their son, so that will never get married and they're holding their son hostage Let the boy freaking go be someone else's love Let him lose the man needs to live his life. No more mr. Nice guy go Go and so a boy is raised being a mama's boy and then you're soft left later on

Starting point is 02:08:24 You're soft. And you always remember when you cry, mama was always there so you become an adult and you're like, I want to cry because that's how I get my attention. Stop it already. Man, there is, you know, leadership is hard. Parenting is hard. Being a husband is hard. Being a man is hard.

Starting point is 02:08:44 It is. And no one is selling the easiness of this part, but I'm not with that. I think at a certain point, I'm 14 or 15 years old, all my friends are smoking weed. Smoke weed. Smoke weed. No, I never smoke weed. No, I don't want to smoke weed. First time I smoked weed is because I chose to smoke weed. I don't want to smoke weed. First time I smoked weed is because I chose to smoke weed.

Starting point is 02:09:05 I don't want to smoke weed. I didn't have a brother that, you know, like Fred Trump. I didn't have anybody in a family that died. No. I'm like, no, I'm not going to smoke it. Why? You can show, is it restraint? You can show that.

Starting point is 02:09:17 Practice it. No, I'm not going to do it. No, I'm not going to do it. No. Let me tell you, it's all on fraud. I don't know if I agree. No, I'm not going to do it. No. Let me tell you, it's all on fire. I don't know if I agree. Fight that a little bit. Fight that urge of needing that sympathy and that, oh, feel sorry for me.

Starting point is 02:09:33 Man, fight that flippant urge. You're going to be held hostage for the rest of your life with that unnecessary attention. It's not good. It's not necessary. And so to me, I get what you're saying. Like when I talk to you and we talk family, I get you. Once I understood you, I'm like, okay, I get it. You know, I understand when you came to us, you know, your father had passed away, girl,

Starting point is 02:10:00 all that stuff, I get it. I sympathize. I empathize. But you're going to have a hard time being around me all the time like, you know, you don't understand it's unfair this. No, that's not because we can control our thoughts and our decisions and we can improve. Very simple. I had no plans of talking about this and I didn't even think this was going to be.

Starting point is 02:10:19 I was planning on going to the story for five minutes and we move on to the next one. But to me, nothing about this kid gives me bad vibes. He's just got unfortunately the wrong people in their ears. The wrong people that are in their ears, they have wrong people in their ears, and they have wrong people in their ears. Twenty-two years ago I read a book called Ten Generational Curses. It's actually not a big book. You've never heard of this book before.

Starting point is 02:10:42 And one by one when I'm going through this book, Typing 10 Generational Curses. It's a book. I think that's the title of the book. Can you go to Amazon? Oh, that's the third one. Third one down. Yeah, that's the one. When did it come out, Rob?

Starting point is 02:10:54 What's the year that it came out? Rob Stewart 2006. Ten curses, the block law blessing. Nineteen years ago. I said 22. So that's the book when it came out. And I'm going through it. I'm like, oh, interesting.

Starting point is 02:11:03 Oh, interesting. Oh, interesting. Alcohol. When my dad was an alcoholic, abused, when my dad hit me, drugged, when my dad this, gambled, when my dad was gambling, there's a freaking cut it. Stop the damn curse. No, it's not going to get to the next generation. It's going to be, stop right here with me.

Starting point is 02:11:20 I'm the new leader. I'm the new leader. No one in my family is going to be passed down to period. It stops right here. You stop that pain. You get to do that as a man, as a leader. It's not easy to do. Don't blame your dad.

Starting point is 02:11:32 Don't blame your grandfather. No. Move on. We don't know the whole story. Let's move on and be leaders. That's what we need today in America, in the world, everywhere. We need more men like that, like that sheriff that came out and, you know, what was his name, waiter?

Starting point is 02:11:48 TK Waters. TK Waters, respect you, sir. Man, like this is driving me insane. Someone's got to put a stop to this behavior. Constantly feeding this in their ear, feeding, it's not fair, it's not fair, it's not fair, stop it. No. Kid wants that. My son yesterday wanted me to say it's not fair. Not going to give it to him. It's not fair. No. It is fair.

Starting point is 02:12:10 It is fair. Publicly, I'll defend you. Privately, you screwed up. And he says, you're right. Okay, good. Let's move on. What do you want to talk about? And we talked on Midnight last night.

Starting point is 02:12:18 Awesome conversation. We moved on. Manned up, took responsibility. Let's move on. Everything's going to be okay. Damn, this is going to be okay. I'm going to be okay. I'm going to be okay. I'm going to be okay. I'm going to be okay. Awesome conversation. We moved on. Manned up, took responsibility, let's move on. Everything's going to be okay.

Starting point is 02:12:28 Damn, this just pisses me off. But anyways, all right, so what story do we have that, do we want to do John Stewart? Do we want to go to a- Tom Hanks You want to end on something a little more lighthearted? That was pretty intense. And respect to you on that. Dr. Emanuel Oh, you know what? Let's do Columbia, Tom.

Starting point is 02:12:44 Are you okay with that? Yes, indeed. Let's go to the Columbia story and Harvard. By the way, I don't know if you guys heard about the $220 million with Columbia and Harvard. You got to hear about the story. Prior to doing this, the Manette contest ends in about a few days and Vinnie looks like he's about to break the record. We got eight days left.

Starting point is 02:12:58 If you can go to Manette.com, focus slash leaders bulletin wrap. Check this out, folks. Lightweight Ashley Glenn is all the way at the top at 394. John Carlo was here yesterday, bought a new watch. Handsome John Carlo. Freaking love that guy. I got a Manek from Heka was like, you didn't tell me he was that good looking. I go yeah because I'm not gay.

Starting point is 02:13:20 She had a call with John Carlo. John Kiroku, CIA officer. Then you got the rest of the crew there. Then oh, Scott Storch came up. Alright, Scott Storch, 8th place. Paul Williams, Mr. Handsome Paul Williams, who's very fashionable. Rhino YouTuber is also on there on number 7, Rob. Let's go to middleweight.

Starting point is 02:13:38 Let's see what we got on middleweight. Middleweight we got Tommy at the top. He's competing. Constant team number 2, 549. Aaron Montes 3. then you got Dean Mason. Dean is 13 points behind Aaron. Come on, Dean! Come on, Chipley!

Starting point is 02:13:50 A lot of good guys there. Go to the next one, Rob. Heavyweight, we got heavyweight. Mason's at the top, tied with Daniel Debrinca. Okay, good. Michael Mara, and then you got Sebastian. Quick shout out to Daniel. What a freaking good guy.

Starting point is 02:14:03 What a sweet guy. Daniel, wherever you are, you're a phenomenal guy. And then go to the last one, who's the last one that we got? Go to the last one that we got, Super Heavyweight. Look at the Super Heavyweight at the top. Look at this handsome bachelor single Vincent Oshada. Maneck me if you wanna say hi. By the way, if you wanna see Lindy Lee win, go Maneck her.

Starting point is 02:14:22 If you wanna see Vinny win, go Manect him. She's close to me. Somebody come on baby. We got to do it for America. And then you got the rest of the camp that's on there and we'll see what will take place. But on the user side, go to the user side. I sent somebody to Zeus Vega the other day. Zeus wrote such a phenomenal article about Manect the way he uses it.

Starting point is 02:14:41 I shared it all over Manect support, which is Kyle Webb, Michael Lamb, and Chetaj Anwar, top three. They're competing to come to the dinner and then go to the next one. By the way, anybody can start competing for that as well. New people existing. Zeus is not. It's not even close. 3100 points? Holy 3100! Jolten, Dorothy. Look how close Jolten and Dorothy are. And then Heka's at fourth place. And you got everybody else. else. Who's this guy? T-Rone.

Starting point is 02:15:08 I don't see this T-Rone. T-Rone, Jones, Sam. Alright, let's go to this next one here. Let's go to this next one here and wrap it up. Where's that story? Literally I just looked at the story. It's in the addendum. Addendum page six. Addendum page six. Oh, there it is. Columbia University to pay out more than $220 million in deal after violating Jewish students'

Starting point is 02:15:32 civil rights and massive win for Trump's administration. Brandon and Humberto are very excited about this. Let me go to it right now. You hear them cheering in the back? So as you go through this story, the Trump administration secured a settlement with Columbia University requiring the Ivy League school to pay more than $220 million including $200 million in settlement discrimination claims and $20 million to the Jewish employees discriminated against and made anti-Semitism demonstrations on October 7, 2023.

Starting point is 02:15:59 Hamas attacks against Israel with a spokesperson for the House Oversight Committee stating subpoenas will be issued in the future to further investigate related issues. Colombia agreed to submit to independent monitoring to ensure compliance with merit-based hiring and admissions and discriminatory programming in line with Supreme Court's 2023 decisions banning race-based affirmative action. The settlement described by Columbia active President Claire Shipman as the agreement marks an important step forward after a period of sustained federal scrutiny and institutional uncertainty.

Starting point is 02:16:33 Rob, can you go to Trump's tweet? Oh, you have it up already. Thank you. I am pleased to announce that the administration has reached a historic agreement with Columbia University. They've agreed to pay a penalty of $200 million to the United States government and the 20 million Jewish employees who were on the market. Columbia is also committed to ending this ridiculous DEI, admitting student base only on merit and protecting the civil liberties of their students.

Starting point is 02:16:55 Numerous other higher education institutions that have hurt so many and been so unfair and unjust have wrongly spent federal money, much of it from our government and our upcoming, oh damn, meaning they're coming up. It's a great honor to have been involved and I want to thank and congratulate Secretary Lyndon McMahon and all those who work with us on this important deal. I also want to thank and commend Columbia University for agreeing to do what is right. I look forward to watching them have a great future in our country, maybe greater than ever. I love the tweet, Tom thoughts on the story.

Starting point is 02:17:28 Well, attention Yale, Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth, who am I leaving out? Berkeley. Syracuse, you know, the rest of the Ivy League mafia. Guess what? You're next. This is called a precedent. This is called, wait, let me quote a famous liberal that some of you Ivies may like, an inconvenient truth. This is a very inconvenient truth because it's an inconvenient precedent. It's got a dollar figure. It's got a date. It's got a

Starting point is 02:17:57 reason. It's got to be a problem if you're Harvard. And they're also saying subpoenas will be issued in the future. Why? Because people are going to come forward to find out who gets what of the 200 million and the 20 million to the employees, because they're going to get to the bottom of who was discriminated against.

Starting point is 02:18:17 And by the way, these are Jewish employees that were afraid to go to work, that were heckled walking in, that were physically, they weren't beaten, but they were jostled about and they were chased. They were very scared go to work, that were heckled walking in, that were physically, they weren't beaten, but they were jostled about and they were chased. They were very scared going into work, and you're being surrounded by these crowds. And $20 million is going to go to the Jewish employees who were discriminated.

Starting point is 02:18:36 And by the way, blow into the fine print, which is something that the NYPD wanted, you know what it is, Vinny? A ban on mask protests. Guess what? If they were to say, Hey, there's people protesting in the quad. They're saying these things like this and they're wearing masks. NYPD, not the university PD NYPD said, yeah, we'll be right over. You can grab them and guess what? You're taking your mask off, buddy. So you can't have masks. This is huge on about five different layers. Something happened on Columbia and they didn't push back at.

Starting point is 02:19:10 Meanwhile, across the aisle at the Ivy League, Harvard was in court within the last week, pushing against, trying to get their grant money back, criticizing the Trump administration, being complete jerks about their defense. Not one. They really been complete jerks. Harvard was completely no.

Starting point is 02:19:34 Does Harvard feel that they have a point? Does Harvard feel that they have a legal angle? Does Harvard feel that they have something? Yes, they do. But when you step back and look at it, you guys are being uncooperative and you're using the court system to protect your grants is what you're doing. And so, okay, all right, you want to do that? Well, just as what? So you want to make it legal? That's what you want to do, Harvard? Last week you were doing this these, the disrupting these hearings and doing all this stuff, and you want to take legal thing with the administration?

Starting point is 02:20:02 I've got some legal thing. The State Department would like to know about how you have been approving visas and would like to know about how you have been sponsoring people with visas, and the State Department would like to know what countries you've been specifically bringing people in from and what you're doing and how you've been doing it. So why don't we talk about that? So now what Harvard gets now is Marco Rubio saying, all right, well, if you want to take the legal path, tell you what, the State Department would like to open up some hearings and would

Starting point is 02:20:29 like to find this out. Instead of Harvard getting with the program saying, hang on, hang on, hang on, let's see if we can talk about this, they go to the microphone pad and say, this is yet another retaliatory step by the Trump administration to violate Harvard's First Amendment rights. Wait a minute, check the quote. How is the State Department doing an investigation into your practices of assisting foreign students to get visas have anything at all to do

Starting point is 02:20:59 with your First Amendment rights? So you know what they're doing? The inflammatory quote. Yet another retaliatory step by the Trump administration to violate our administration. So here you've got Columbia saying, all right, we're going to agree. We're going to pay some money to some people. Those Jewish employees were totally terrified. It was bad.

Starting point is 02:21:19 We're going to give them a settlement too. We're going to take care of this and we're going to submit to oversight. We're going to submit to the subpoenas and we're going to clean all this up. Sorry about that. And now that's what we're going to do. And this is Columbia's acting president, Claire Shipman. Why is there an acting president? Because the other president was stuck in a cannon and shot out at something hard. So that's that. And meanwhile, you've got Harvard wants to make everything a legal bitch and make everything a fight and everything pushing back This precedent at Columbia. I hope it carries forward because there's a tale of two cities. We will keep litigating

Starting point is 02:21:55 We will keep pushing we will keep doing all this stuff at Harvard Columbia says you know, maybe we effed up and maybe we should just sit down and get a settlement together and get on with life That's what Columbia just did and that's what the president tweeted on Columbia said. Thank a settlement together and get on with life. That's what Columbia just did. And that's what the president tweeted on Columbia, said, thank you, let's get on with it. Yeah, and by the way, good for them on that happening, but this is the beautiful thing about bullying and bad policies. You can only get away with bullying for so long, especially in America. You can only get away with it for so long. You can only get away with bullying for so long, especially in America. You can only get away with it for so long.

Starting point is 02:22:26 You can only get away with bad policies for so long. Eventually people learn it's a bad policy. Go to Detroit, Dearborn. At once it was one of the greatest cities we had in America. Wealth, everything, liberal policies showed up, destroyed the place. Look at California. Unemployment that were in the top 20, they were not the top 5 or top 10. Do you know the year before Newsom became governor what California ranked in unemployment?

Starting point is 02:22:50 Number 16. You know where California is at right now for unemployment? Number 1. Yeah, so listen, it's on Newsom. You go to Florida, we have fun with Newsom a lot here, the fact that he doesn't own a house or a car. The reality of it is, the best governor, DeSantis in Florida. The reality of it is, guess best governor, DeSantis in Florida, the reality

Starting point is 02:23:05 of it is, guess what? He did great for Florida. People feel safe raising their kids here. It's a great environment. He's done a phenomenal job as a governor. But bad policies and bullying eventually gets exposed and that's exactly what these Ivy League schools were doing for the longest time. Anyways, Adam, your thoughts on the story.

Starting point is 02:23:23 Well, these universities are supposed to be safe spaces. How many times have you heard that? It's a safe space. Protect yourself. It's a safe space. Unless if you're Jewish. And we've seen so many times, you know, during COVID, there was stop Asian hate because people were hating on Asians because they thought, oh, you started COVID. All right. That's very prejudiced and it's very racist. On any of these campuses, trans rights, women's rights, gay rights, blacks, lesbian, any type of, you could be anything you want, you're protected unless you're Jewish. And here's what I've experienced. People say, Adam, how do you have thick skin? How do you have such thick skin? It's called practice. Once you start getting F you screw yourself. All right, cool. You're an idiot. You suck. All right, cool. Kill yourself. All right. I'm going

Starting point is 02:24:15 to kill you. And you start getting death threats on the regular. You start getting very thick skin and you start to realize, holy moly. So you know, I'm equipped for this because this is quite frankly, what we do at this point a professional, imagining 18, 19, you got nothing to do with what's going on in the Middle East and Gaza and Israel whatsoever. You're a Jewish kid in New York. And all of a sudden you're getting harassed, bullied, death threats. How do you deal with this? You have a daughter who's 19 now probably, you have another daughter

Starting point is 02:24:47 who's 16. Could you imagine? She's 14. 19, 14. By apologies. Could you imagine if she was dealing with something like that on campus? I have a close friend whose younger cousin goes to Harvard. I asked him two years ago, I said, so how is it? He said, oh, it's not that big of a deal, man. I go, but because we're seeing things on campus. And there's a whole we have a whole stats on what the encampments Rob, if you can pull that up. He's like, it's not that bad. I saw him a couple months ago. He's like, Oh, no, dude, it's bad. I go, but

Starting point is 02:25:15 you told me a couple years ago was not bad. He goes, I was wrong. It's bad. It is like really freaking I fear for my life at Harvard So imagine this here's a stat right here 99% of schools don't have this crap most kids in schools as you can see here are just going to school. They're not protesting They're never encampments, but these elite universities the harvard's of the world the columbians of the world And so on and so forth. That's where this happens. So what happens here is the distribution.

Starting point is 02:25:48 To the left, it shows the tuition of the biggest schools. You notice the tuition, the high, like 60,000 plus. That's Ivy League. So protests and affordability. So the higher the price of the school, the more likely it is for encampments and protests. So all these institutions of higher learning are just indoctrinating kids. So if you're going to community college here in Miami,

Starting point is 02:26:09 I don't have time for this. I'm trying to learn. At these institutions of higher learning, this is where they're indoctrinating kids. This is where Marxism and socialism and Islamism have sort of teamed up and said, yes, let's get a hold of these kids you got white kids wearing the terrorist rag the whatever they call it hijab or what is it what is the job whatever it's not a ray bands in the dish towel thing yeah the dish towel thing what do you know terrorists what is whatever the Palestinian rag is the thing that they wear everywhere oh I don't know what you call but you talk about the flag that's not a Talk about the white scarf thing whatever they were and it's called a terrorist flag terrorist rag

Starting point is 02:26:56 It's that's what you're calling. That's not what I'm calling. It's the white headdress with the black whatever it's called spots on it Right. So here's the problem that I've realized Do you know what BB net and Yahoo's approval rating is in Israel in Israel? It's somewhere around 30 40 percent.'s approval rating is in Israel. In Israel. It's somewhere around 30-40 percent. It hovers. Meaning in Israel, 60% plus of Israelis don't approve of what he's doing. It's a democracy. Just like in America, more than 50% of the country doesn't approve of Trump. It's a democracy. 46% of respondents. There it is right there. So here's the challenge that you have in the world right now Alright, so you don't approve of his of what BB Net now who alright, so you hate Israel. Okay, cool

Starting point is 02:27:30 All right So because you hate Israel you hate Zionism Alright, then that leads to because I hate Israel because I I don't approve of Zionism now I hate Jews and you go from not liking BB Net now who and approving what's going on with the war here to kill all the Jews. What was the whole thing that Dave Portnoy was basically protesting against? Kill all the Jews. So it's a slippery slope.

Starting point is 02:27:53 I don't wish this for anybody. Black, white, Asian, Mexican, Assyrian, Armenian, gay, nobody deserves this. But Israel is the only Jewish state is going to have to deal with this and they're used to it at this point You know the happiest people in the Middle East the happiest people in the Middle East Israelis Who is the the least happiest people the angriest people Iran Iran? So that should tell you something right there To my Jewish friends out there. I'll just say this Start developing thick frickin skin

Starting point is 02:28:23 That's all I could tell you. Because this isn't going anywhere. Get used to it. Be proud, be who you are. Be reasonable. I've, I've, I've, I've embroiled this into three camps, if I may. There's the people out there who basically say, Israel can do no right. They're the worst. Kill all the Jews, you're never going to win these people over. There's the people who basically are Israel. Israel can do no wrong. They can't do anything. Everything they got to protect themselves.

Starting point is 02:28:49 I'm not even in that camp. Then there's the reality. And this is my opinion, that Israel is a good country and a bad freaking neighborhood. And sometimes they got to do some pretty bad things to some bad people. And that it's kill or be killed in the Middle East. You went on a nice little lecture yesterday in our meeting about you guys don't know what it's like on that side of the world. You have no clue what it's like in the comfort of your own home in America or in Western cities, what it's like living in that side of the

Starting point is 02:29:22 world. I say this all the time, that the Middle East is not the Midwest. You have no clue what it's like when your neighbors are Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, Islamic Jihad, and what's going on. You have no clue. In America, we're freaking out about Tren de Agua. This is Tren de Agua times 10. And you should be living in Iran right now straight up, but because is law Islamic Evangelicals terrorists took over Iran. We have the luxury of having PBT here now

Starting point is 02:29:51 You shouldn't be here and there's a lot of people in the world are being displaced because of what's going on the middle And it's important. You know you want to send them bad. I'm down. We're all gonna be out of a job So I just but you but PBT if you would please take a second. Why don't breaking news? What is? Sorry keep going yeah What you said yesterday was very true what don't people understand about living in the Middle East, okay? Amongst those people what don't does the average Americans not understand of living in that side of the world? Amongst those people, what don't, does the average American not understand of living in that side of the world? Yeah, I mean look, it's just knowing the fact that your neighbors are constantly chaotic

Starting point is 02:30:34 in the Middle East. You're not going to understand it. It's not like in America, you don't worry about it because you don't see what's going on in Canada and Mexico. Those are your neighbors. It's not something you go to sleep thinking about wars and being bombed on and all this other stuff. It's going to teach you a very different perspective.

Starting point is 02:30:48 But yeah, the only thing I would tell you that I'm uncomfortable with, if this thing goes so far to one side that we can't call out and debate, that's the only thing. So as long as it goes to a point that I can't call out and debate, that now you're dealing with freedom of speech. And that's a problem. No matter what it is. I should be able to call out the President, Trump. I should be able to call out Obama.

Starting point is 02:31:14 I should be able to call out, people should be able to call me out. I should be able to call out blacks, whites, Jews, Christians, Hindus, Muslims, everybody. And if it's to the point that a person is walking on eggshells, if I say something, you're an Islamophobe, you're an anti-Semite, you're a bigot, you're a this, you're a that, that's what's forced a lot of people to get so aggressively on the opposite side. But what Columbia and these universities did? Yeah. They're being held accountable and good for them.

Starting point is 02:31:44 They've been brainwashing people for God knows how long. You want me to spend $60,000 to $80,000 to send my kids to your school? For them to be brainwashed that capitalists are bad and America's bad, it's a terrible country that Thomas Jefferson, Washington, these people were horrible slave owners and all? No, no, no, I'm good. I'm good. Yeah, yeah, I'm not interested in that.

Starting point is 02:32:02 It takes me back to when Hillary and Trump are doing a debate. I'm in Chow Hall in Harvard, and I'm seeing 100% of people that were in the room were rooting for Hillary. That's when I realized, this is not a fricking school. This is a, what do you call it? A indoctrination camp. Vinny, you wanted to say something.

Starting point is 02:32:20 No, I just wanted to clarify something. It's not a terrorist scarf, it's called a keffiyeh. Keffiyeh, my apologies. And then Adam, uh, David Portnoy... There's no reason that Americans should know what a kafia is. At all. But they're wearing it like it's the newest fashion, like it's Jinko jeans in the 90s. I get it.

Starting point is 02:32:36 And then with David Portnoy, it wasn't kill the Jews, he had some idiot war that had that sign that said, F the Jews. There's a big difference between kill the Jews and F the Jews. I think Columbia all of the any listen you could go to any protest you're gonna see signs of the war. Well you said David Portnoy it wasn't it wasn't about killing Jews but in regard to the protest you could pro all you want have this do what that's freedom of speech freedom of assembly go do your thing okay when you're abusing and hitting and harassing any race of students i'm happy that they're going to pay the bill good and my favorite thing out of the out of what you said tom was the mask

Starting point is 02:33:16 situation if you're going to go out there and you're going to talk this shit you're going to walk the walk let us see your face let us see your face any demonstration all participants must be unmasked every single body because guess what on January 6th if they let everybody take off your freaking everybody mask if you have a mask you're gonna go to jail I want to say everybody cuz guess what maybe there were the FBI we could see who the hell your faces are so we don't have to deal with the aftermath so that's my well that's all something to be if you're protesting and you're not wearing a mask you have nothing to worry about if you're protesting and doing some not wearing a mask you have nothing to worry about Oh, if you're protesting and doing some nasty stuff

Starting point is 02:33:46 No, we want to know you so that other witnesses can say then if I was the guy we got a wrap-up I got the armored truck outside. I got to go pick something up. You'll see what that is But in the interim Just died at the age of 71 Hogan just died Yes, we just saw him we were just a couple months ago. He was just here on a podcast. Wow. 71 years old suffering cardiac arrest at Florida home. Legend. Legend. When was he on the podcast? Less than a year ago. That was November. Legend. Just passed away. Tom's playing a song for Hulk. Tom and Brandon and Alder along. Tom's gonna play a song. That came on the cue was perfect time.

Starting point is 02:34:25 We were with him at Mar-a-Lago. Yes we were. When Trump was there. We were right. Anyways, gang. Nine months ago. Tomorrow we have a podcast coming out with Chris Cappy. Chris Cappy's an 11 Bravo military vet

Starting point is 02:34:40 that we discussed a lot of different things, what DARPA's working on, that will come out tomorrow. Enjoy the weekend. We will do this again next week. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye bye.

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