PBD Podcast - Cenk Uygur | PBD Podcast | Ep. 292

Starting point is 00:00:00 I Sweet I know this life meant for me Yeah, why would you plan on colliah when we got that day That value came in giving values contagious world on entrepreneurs we can't no value to hate it out of run homie look what I've become walking around it wasn't a big deal, but all right. So hard to with Jank in the house from the young Turks and last time we did this, it was

Starting point is 00:00:43 a great conversation. A lot of people didn't know what direction it was going to go. We had a fantastic conversation. And a lot of times you'll say, Hey, we'd love to have you back. He's like, yeah, it's kind of like one of the things you're supposed to say, no, we want it. You back and we're glad to have you here today. I know you got a couple announcements you want to be making. You said that on Twitter. So we'll see what that's all about. But how you doing? How you been? Great.

Starting point is 00:01:06 Thanks for having me back. I love the conversation last time too. I'm looking forward to this. Very cool. And this is the season, right? We're getting close to the playoffs, right? This is like your world. Seasons coming up.

Starting point is 00:01:17 Yep. This is when if you follow the NBA, Steven A. Smith, inside the NBA, the closer he gets to the playoffs, he's gonna see who's gonna make it, who's gonna do this, it gets intense. This is like season season for this show. So did you follow, by the way, I got a video I want to show you. I think you saw it already.

Starting point is 00:01:38 We'll be releasing it here today. We showed one of the clips of it, two weeks ago with Dave Smith. And it was a small segment of it where he talked about You know how you know weapons of not weapons of it's you know the Folks who want to make money off war. What do they call the the military? Admission comes in place. He kind of commented on that with Ukraine Russia today There's a video will show that has to do with you know, what they want to do with Putin, what his interpretation of it was, Forstar General. And we'll show that to the public. Devon Archer, yesterday, you know, showing up and doing what he did. And there's

Starting point is 00:02:15 a bunch of people from both sides, one side is saying it's nothing, the other side is saying it's, this is it. Everybody in that family's got to go to jail. The kids got to go to jail. The wife's got to go to jail. We got her everyone gotta go to jail. And then we got a couple stories here about from a daily mail. We'll talk about Elon Musk refutes the logo at the top that he put the ex with the lights, which obviously anybody that lives around that area,

Starting point is 00:02:37 it's a very comforting way to go to sleep when you have that much light. It's like a tanning bed type of a model light. Climate change obsession is a real mental disorder. According to Wall Street Journal, we're curious to know what you think about it. Bill Barr said he will jump off a bridge if Trump is a 2024 nominee.

Starting point is 00:02:55 The only question everyone's got to ask is which bridge is it, because it's looking like that's the direction it's going. And then DOJ forced to clarify, it does not want to jail Hunter Business Partner. Then we got JFK's director Oliver Stone. He fears World War III could start. Biden suggests Republicans will impeach him because of inflation is down. Rand Paul announced his official criminal referral. Foulchy COVID is a lie.

Starting point is 00:03:19 Chance of the cent is winning 2024 nominations fading. That's Daily Mail. Want to get your thoughts on him. We're having, we're paying people to hate America. Musking, Ramaswani had the conversation. I want to know what you think about Ramaswani and how RFK is doing. And then Zelensky's war is returning to Russia after Moscow drawn the tax. And maybe a couple other things, but Musk not wanting to give

Starting point is 00:03:44 Starlink to Ukraine. And who knows, maybe we may touch a couple of trans videos just to get a little reaction. But have you seen Oppenheimer yet? I have, yeah. What do you think about it? I loved it. I thought it might be a top 20 movie of all time. Get out of here. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:03:57 I loved it. Tell me why. It's riveting. It's action packed. And it delivers an important message to it. I mean, look, I think the most important message actually comes at the beginning that we won the war because of diversity The Nazis hated the Jews and they drove out all the Jews who in turn out almost all the top physicists in the world at that time We're Jewish Albert Einstein. Hello. Yeah, and Oppen and Neal's Bohr and it goes on and on

Starting point is 00:04:25 I don't forget if it was Bohr Bohr's wife, but most of the the physicists at the time were Jewish so they came to America and so we developed the bomb and they didn't if if he wasn't so anti-Semitic The Nazis might have won the war and so Thank God that they were like racist in all the ironic ways, etc It was obviously awful let the awful results Thank God that they were like racist in all the ironic ways, et cetera. It was obviously awful, let the awful results, but it shows you that America's vision is correct. All of you who believe in freedom and hope and democracy come here will work together, will be diverse and will get to the right results.

Starting point is 00:05:00 I mean, the thing that they developed is, of course, fearsome and not a great thing for the world. Overall, the fact that we have these nuclear weapons, but they were going to get developed no matter what. And thank God America did it before Russia or Germany. So I just thought it was an incredibly powerful one. Do you think it was longer? Do you think it was like, did you ever feel like it was a little too long? Or did you, were you okay with the three hours? No, I loved it.

Starting point is 00:05:25 I loved every minute of it. I didn't get bored at all. And by the way, it's just an amazing weekend for movies because I also saw Barbie and I also love Barbie. Okay, I have this Barbie. I saw Mission Impossible. I went to watch Oppenheimer Friday night, hour and 10 minutes into it, I fell asleep.

Starting point is 00:05:38 Not because the movie, at a long day, it's my day started early, so I said, baby, let's go home, we went home. The next day I took my son, 11-year-old, and my nine-year-old, my nine-year-old gave it a two. My 11-year-old gave it a nine. Wow. He co-wast like this was an amazing movie.

Starting point is 00:05:52 For up and down, he loves locked it. I mean, listen, if you're somebody, especially with what's going on today, by the way, there's a lot of, it's a very interesting timing with this movie coming out. One, with the conversation about unions. I want to kind of talk to you about unions a little bit because you know what's going on with UPS,

Starting point is 00:06:08 the union, 30 billion minimum wage, for full time, 49 bucks, et cetera, et cetera. And then part time is $21. And then also what's going on with the union strike and Hollywood, SAG, all of that stuff. And then also the way movie ended. You know when they're looking at it, it just says you realize what we invented, right?

Starting point is 00:06:24 Yeah, and it's scary, right? it says, you realize what we invented, right? Yeah, yeah. And it's scary. It's scary, right? That clip that shows like what if the, you know, the nuclear bomb takes over the entire planet and you know, some like that happens. I walked out of the movie, this 85 year old man is sitting in front of him.

Starting point is 00:06:39 I'm saying 85, I don't ask his age. I'm just assuming it's 85. Yeah, my dad's 81, he walked like, my dad plus four more years I'll say that yeah and Right afterwards. I said excuse me sir. So what'd you think about the movie? You know from your perspective? He says this is so scary as it tell me why it's so scary He says because we could be there. I said what do we mean we could be there?

Starting point is 00:07:02 He says because we're playing with fire right now. Yeah. You know, Ukraine and Russia and all this stuff. This could actually, we're acting like World War three is not possible. It could happen at any time if we push the envelope a little bit too far. So open ended question for you. Do you think the proxy war America is playing, the same the first some we've done this, you know, we've done it for a long time. Many other countries do it all the time. China does it, Russia does it, you know, it's a thing. You're instigating between two countries. Yes, one, you're representing NATO because you're part of NATO. Two, you're anti-Russia. Three, there's some controversy with Ukraine, Barisma, all that other stuff that's going in there. Do you think we are playing with fire that it could lead to possible World War III or you're like, nah, it's less than 1% chance?

Starting point is 00:07:48 Well, I would never say that it's less than 1% chance. I'm always worried. And I think it's complicated. So first of all, honestly, I walked out of that movie thinking, oh my god, Trump cannot be president again. We cannot have a deeply unstable guy as president. And part of the reason was the scene with Truman. And so I don't want to give too much of the movie away, but Truman is kind of flippant in the movie, at least, about using the bomb. And I thought, man, if you have a guy who's not a serious person in that office and it's kind of flipping about using the bomb, and next you know, the other side launches and then we're in a world of trouble. Like we

Starting point is 00:08:23 trouble, we cannot recover from. Now in terms of the Ukraine war, I have a new on subpoena and we have had that opinion for a long time on young turs. And it's number one, we push too much in the beginning. Like we push NATO too close to Russia and we don't need it. If they had pushed their alliances next to us, we would have flipped out and we know that for a fact because when the Soviets moved anything into Cuba, we nearly went to World War 3 over it, right?

Starting point is 00:08:51 So they got, forget Mexico, they were in Cuba and we almost launched, right? So we should not have been pushing that close into Russia. That is a legitimate Russian interest outside of a lot of mere putt. Okay. Now having said that, we backed away at the end and said Ukraine's not going to be part of NATO. And I thought that was going to do it, but it turns out, no, Putin was always going to invade.

Starting point is 00:09:13 And so like Dick Cheney and George Bush were always going to invade Iraq, Putin was always going to invade Russia, yeah, Ukraine. And since he was gonna, it looks like he proved definitively that he was always going to do that, that to me says the real danger is Putin. And so I'm really worried about putting him in a corner

Starting point is 00:09:29 where he thinks I got no way out but to use some weapons that I shouldn't use. And so now having said that, in my opinion, you can't just leave the Ukrainians to die because this madman invaded them and took over some portion of their territory, et cetera. So I think I believe in helping the Ukrainians, but I don't believe in pushing NATO into Ukraine. Now post-war, of course, is a tougher at-squend, do Ukrainians say, well, I mean, these guys invaded

Starting point is 00:09:58 us, right? So we got as good a reason to be a NATO as anyone, but that's also a pretty good reason not to have them in NATO, to be honest. And so that puts it as a very difficult question, not an easy one. I gotta follow up for you on that. So you know how I'll tell you my concern, like conservatives who are like capitalists.

Starting point is 00:10:15 I'm a capitalist all day long. I'm very comfortable saying it. You're a socialist, we'll have the conference. When a democratic socialist you'll call yourself or, no, as I explain in my book, just scummy. I call myself a Democratic capitalist. Yeah, I remember last time. As a Democratic capitalist.

Starting point is 00:10:29 Yeah, last time he just did that. So for me, I'm a pure capitalist, is what I am, right? I'm a capitalist, you know, can more conservative leanings, how I want to raise my kids, family, certain things I'm not for, totally fine. I love discourse, I love conversation.

Starting point is 00:10:42 These are my favorite conversations about the world, guys that I can sit there talk, because you can point out my leaks, am I arguing, I'll kind. These are my favorite conversations about it. Well, guys that I can sit there and talk because you can point out my leaks. Am I arguing I'll kind of point out my leaks in yours and you can defend yours, I can defend mine. Yep, but when Biden was getting elected, what were conservative so worried about? Oh my God, he's gonna raise taxes, capital gains

Starting point is 00:10:57 is gonna go to this and he's gonna do this and he's gonna do it's end of the world if this guy gets elected. Nothing happened with taxes. Just to be fair, I just wanna say that. 100% so meaning that fear Republicans had that it was gonna happen quickly within 2020, 2021, 2022 hasn't happened yet.

Starting point is 00:11:16 Now, one could say, well Biden didn't deliver on his promises, fine. But all I'm saying is the boogeyman didn't happen to those who voted against them perfect Now let's flip it on the other side the fear a lot of times Democrats will say is oh There's no way after watching Oppenheimer. I have to see what happened with you know Truman after seeing this and you're not the only person that's in us a lot of people feel the same way because The movie people were split. This is why Trump can't be this is why then I can't believe Biden's, that's great, that's what you want to hear.

Starting point is 00:11:47 You may say Trump was gonna start a war. He's the guy that actually didn't. He's the guy that calmed a lot of things down, ISIS, you know, North Korea, North Korea meeting with these guys. I don't like it, I don't like this. I don't like that. Nothing happened with Russia and Ukraine,

Starting point is 00:12:02 and now he's going out there saying, if I get elected within 24 hours You know, he's famous for saying lines like that within 24 hours. I would end this and here's how I would do it So the proof is in the pudding to say Those who thought this guy's gonna be a you know, but no way from nuclear war. They were wrong It didn't happen and those who said Biden's gonna increase taxes to socialist levels They were also wrong. So do you feel now, even though you're seeing this with, you know, Ukraine, Russia, there is

Starting point is 00:12:32 little less credibility in the fear of Trump starting a war since he didn't the first four years he was in. So first of all, that's a fair argument because you already had Trump as president. So it's totally a fair point. Now, having said that, no, I don't feel that much more comfortable. So, and the reason is in 2016, I didn't know quite how crazy Donald Trump was. I knew, I thought he was not very intelligent, not very good businessman, not very competent, not a very good person, but I didn't know he was full blown nuts. Now, I know he's full blown nuts. Now I know he's full blown nuts. Now having said that, Trump's a complicated character when it comes to war.

Starting point is 00:13:10 He claims that he's anti-war, but on the other hand, he greatly increased drone strikes, so that's not a very anti-militaristic angle. But you could say like Tulsi Aberde does, hey, I think the drones prevent more war. I don't agree with that, but I understand that. But he killed so many, the top general for the Iranians that could have easily triggered a war with Iran. We're got super lucky that Iran did not counter attack. If they had counter attack, now we're in the middle of a disastrous war in the Middle East. Iran is four times larger than Iraq. And he played with fire. He played with fire in moving the embassy in Israel. He played with fire over and over again.

Starting point is 00:13:49 Now at the same time, look, he didn't start any new wars and credit where credit is due and that and people, look, our show drives people crazy because we just keep telling things that are true, not based on whether it's Republican or Democrat, right? And so I give Joe Biden a ton of credit for what'sing from Afghanistan. Mainstream media was like,

Starting point is 00:14:07 oh, that was terrible the way he was through. It's always terrible when we, with like the process by which we, we're literally being responsible on the way of the withdrawing. No, I don't totally disagree. I know I'm the only one in media that I wanna say. Do you mind taking a second

Starting point is 00:14:19 and just saying why you disagree? Yeah, because so first of all, I give Trump credit for starting the withdrawal from Afghanistan. And I give, I give Trump credit for starting the withdrawal from Afghanistan. And I give Biden a lot of credit for finishing the withdrawal from Afghanistan. And what people do, and this is a giant phenomenon in media that everyone should be aware of, needles and haystacks. Like whenever somebody wants to criticize someone else, they go and they look for the needle in a haystack. If the guys relatively innocent, right?

Starting point is 00:14:46 And then they go, look at the needle, look at the needle. And they tell you, don't look at the haystack. Right. Both sides, all sides. Now there's 28 different sides. They all know what. Right. So in that case, they're like, oh my god, look at the people that died in the withdrawal. Why? Because mainstream media, corporate media overall did not want the withdrawal. They love war. And so they didn't want Biden to withdraw anybody. And if it was Trump, the same exact thing would have happened because the withdrawal, it was already planned for a long, long time.

Starting point is 00:15:12 And even so, they screwed up parts of it because they're human. And that's the military. That's the United States military, the best military in the world. And they still screwed up parts of it, right? And if Trump had done it, people would have said, oh, that can't blame Trump is withdrawing in all the wrong ways.

Starting point is 00:15:24 They're not criticizing Biden and Trump were was drawing They're criticizing them for the way that they was drawn, but I think they're full of crap I think they actually didn't want the withdrawal in the first place So I actually think Biden has done pretty decent job on foreign policy, but Jank the yeah I'm with you that way was time to get out of again. I sent 20 years of it forever, but I mean, a lot of people can argue left to right, the withdrawal in itself was a freaking disaster. Of course.

Starting point is 00:15:50 We left hundreds of billions of weapons and tanks and it's 83 billion. Whatever, okay, 100 billion almost. Yeah. You know, it could have been done better as all I'm staying and not even a need on a haystack thing. No, okay. It was a mess.

Starting point is 00:16:02 Look, listen, but I'm glad we got out. It's my point. I made that case two years ago. I'm like, this was a mess, but I'm glad we're out. The last things I'll say on it is, I'm not, I criticize Biden maybe more than any show, any host in America, right? So having said that, look, I get it,

Starting point is 00:16:19 could it have been done better? Of course, of course it could have been done better, right? But part of the problem is that the Pentagon wants to leave $83 billion of equipment behind because they love get funneling as much of our money in pork barrel spending and the military and those serial complexes they can into defense contractors. Oh, what a point right there. You're saying, hey, we left that there. Oh, Scully, gee, they're going to like the X-German.

Starting point is 00:16:44 He's going from, hey, I left my earring at your house. I got saying hey, we left that there. Oh, Scully. It's kind of like the ex-girlfriend. Hey, I left my earring at your house. I got to come back. Just a little more. Wow. Now that you say the way you do, I think we're all on the same page. We could have left better. We should have left.

Starting point is 00:16:56 We're glad he followed through untrump wanting to leave. That's a place of unity, what we can be on the same page. When you leave, is it always ugly? Yes. Did we leave that weapon behind? We shouldn't have left it behind, but we know the same page. When you leave, is it always ugly? Yes, did we leave that weapon behind? We shouldn't have left it behind, but we know the military industrial complex, you know, makes more money.

Starting point is 00:17:09 If you cannot leave it behind, because we gotta make more shit to sell it to you now, so everybody kinda goes on half hundred percent. Mine is the populace who's sitting there saying, what the, what was this all about, right? But totally fine. And by the way, you crane same thing. We need to get them weapons,

Starting point is 00:17:22 but there's a ton of skin. That's why I'm gonna go on that. Yeah, okay, so let's go there. So let's go let's go there. I appreciate you for doing that. Rob, so General Macrystal, four star general. This is not a regular general. This is a guy that was under Obama. I had him on the podcast I think seven years ago.

Starting point is 00:17:37 So very good conversation. He wrote a book on leadership, phenomenal book that he wrote on leadership. One of our sources she sent us this and you, and this is a conversation that's being had it's a follow-up from the other conversation. The other one was more about military industrial complex. This is about what's most likely gonna be happening and we'll put them on to get your reaction on. Let's go ahead, Rob.

Starting point is 00:17:57 It's a taboo to talk about, but I didn't worry about the nuclear aspect of this war. It's a taboo of the nuclear series or whatever, and Ukraine. You know, I think is that a real risk? aspect of this war. Is it tactical and nuclear use or whatever in Ukraine? I think is that a real risk? The answers from you never know with Russia. You never know with Putin, so the answer is I could never say no.

Starting point is 00:18:16 There's no obvious, better solution in Russia. I think Putin ought to go, but there's nobody that I'm aware of standing on the wings. He seems like there's a lot more radical people's feelings, too, which is concerning. I just think that where we are now, to sort of take it back, we are saying that Russia must fail. That, to me, means regime change in Russia. So our policy is unofficially regime change in Russia. So our policy is unofficially regime change in Russia. And that's scared when you think of our prudent when we use it, because I said it's essential to him.

Starting point is 00:18:52 Exactly. Now, if he'd used it that way, and that's how I connected that, I'm not sure we got there intentionally or unintentionally, but if we are angling for replacement of his regime, what will he do to survive in power? Yeah, because, you know, this here is not. So what's your reaction to that? First, one of our contributors got him fired originally. Michael Hastings was a contributor for Young Turks, then he wrote the piece of Rolling Stone

Starting point is 00:19:20 about Macrystal and that's what got him fired. Okay, in terms of his actual commentary, I think he's just speculating. So I'm worried about a couple of things. I think he's right that Russia might use tactical nukes if they're putting a corner. I think he's right that if your policy was regime change, that would be a disastrous policy. But I think he's speculating that we're going for regime change. I hope not.

Starting point is 00:19:43 I haven't seen any indication of that. And I think that that would be a terrible policy. And I think that's why they haven't said anything along the lines for regime change. I hope not. I haven't seen any indication of that. And I think that that would be a terrible policy. And I think that's why they haven't said anything along the lines of regime change. Do you think, for example, your paranoid guy, you're from Turkey, right? I'm from Iran, and I'm Armenian. So we're not supposed to get along.

Starting point is 00:20:00 We have civil conversations. No brown, we're good to go, right? But, you know, they say the top five most angriest people in the world. You know who are in the top five? Have you seen this list or no statistic? I haven't, but if you cast Twitter, if you'd ask Twitter, they say me. But, no, no, no. Take some people, countries.

Starting point is 00:20:19 Check this out. Look at this. The top five, angriest, this is going to be classic. If you actually pull up the right list, check this out. Right there. Look at this. Zoom in five. Angry is this is going to be classic. If you actually pull up the right list, check this out right there. Look at this. Zoom in. Number one is Lebanon. Number two is Turkey. Look who's number three. All right. So we got a turkey and an Armenian sitting right next to each other right now. Right.

Starting point is 00:20:35 Oh, totally. Okay. Well, I mean, that's bad. I turkeyed an Armenian sitting next to each other every day on the turks because my co-workers are. Yeah. And she. So this is the kind of anna. Yeah. Yeah. So, so this is great.

Starting point is 00:20:45 So, but, but the point being like, we're naturally paranoid. Your paranoid, I think you come across as a paranoid guy. I'm a very paranoid guy. Living the life I've lived, I don't trust everything easily. So I'm kind of like, that kind of was a scary comment that made. For example, when they say things like the following,

Starting point is 00:21:03 when Klaus Schwab says says or Bill Gates in 2015 or you know Jeb Boy said in 2015 Campaign or whatever 2015 or was it 2020? I think was 2015 2016 when he says we have to be ready We need a leader that knows how to handle a National crisis that could happen such as a pandemic. I'm like wait, what? that could happen such as a pandemic. I'm like, wait, what? It has a pandemic, and you know, well, they are not a pandemic for many, many years.

Starting point is 00:21:27 And Bill Gates is only on the, pandemic, we have to be ready for a pandemic. Okay. So when they say stuff like that, to me sometimes I go like, got it. I kind of know what you're saying. Like when a person comes and tries to sell you something,

Starting point is 00:21:40 and I'm an insurance person, I've been an insurance for my entire life. So if they come and say, hey, hey, Jenk, what are you gonna do if you die? As your family gonna be taking care of me. It's a part of me that's like, are you in my wife talking?

Starting point is 00:21:52 Is there something that's going on while you wanna sell me a $5 million policy? But the natural instinct is a little bit paranoid. So when I hear him say, if they're saying this, you best believe they're saying it because they're creating the bookie man, the, you know, Higallian dialectic, whatever you want to call it, to put the fear in

Starting point is 00:22:11 before we say no, we told you, this is a very problematic man, we have to get him to be replaced. Do you think there's any indication of a future truth telling us that, you know, in their own political way because they're more pro-Z at propaganda than you and I are. We gotta get rid of this guy. The world's a safer place if we get rid of Putin.

Starting point is 00:22:31 And in all of a sudden they get rid of him. So one, you're saying no because you already addressed that. No, I don't think that's really what's going on. But two, let's say they do. Let's say they succeed. Let's say in the next six, 12 months, 18 months, they get what they want. Assuming that's what they want.

Starting point is 00:22:44 What happens next if Putin gets replaced? Look, I despise Putin and I've made no, you know, bones about that. I've been very clear. I've been so clear. Russia today asked me for interviews right after I criticized Putin and they're like, oh, well, we just like to interview him. I'm like, oh, that's interesting. Why today?

Starting point is 00:23:03 Well, what would you like to talk about? They're like the Armenian genocide. I was like, huh, interesting, interesting. So Putin is apparently perfectly aware of how much I despise him. But I think the idea of getting rid of him is absolutely disastrous. So if I was advising the president, I would say, how in the world do you know who would replace him? Right? So maybe it's a much better guy. Maybe it's a much worse guy. Yeah. The guy from the Wagner group. Yeah. The warlord, right? That's a huge possibility. And that guy is much more of a warlord. And he's a private mercenary and very dangerous, etc. So as much as I think.

Starting point is 00:23:35 He goes in this guy. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. And as much as I think Putin has done great damage to the world, I don't think it's our business to go interfere with how they're selecting their leaders. Look, I think a lot of our, our homelands have terrible leaders. I don't like Erdogan and Turkey. I think Netanyahu and Israel is a disaster. I can go on and on, right? But that doesn't mean we got to go meddle in their business and tell them what to do, right? And so, hey, get out of Ukraine. Perfectly legitimate. But the minute you step an inch into Russia or Russian politics, it is a disaster. Do not do that.

Starting point is 00:24:06 Get the hell out of there as soon as you can. So what success have we had the United States in any sort of regime change in the last 50 years? Never. Like, name one that regime changes worked out well. Gaddafi and Libya, all right. A rock Saddam Hussein, the list goes on. I mean, can you think of one?

Starting point is 00:24:23 Yeah. Well, look, so yeah, Adam was a terrible guy. Kadafi was a terrible guy, but did we replace them with folks who are better? I mean, how many people did we kill to get there? You know, hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians killed, let alone 50,000 Americans maimed over there and killed, and we go on and on, our treasure, our blood. So the whole country sick of these wars. The only people who want the wars are the establishment.

Starting point is 00:24:51 And why does the establishment want it? Because lobbyists win everything. And so, and we have several different lobbyists that are pushed for these kind of wars. So you've got the obvious, you've got the oil guys that are constantly pushing for war in the Middle East, right? And in case of Russia, you've got not only those guys, but you've got the guys who say, Hey, I rather sell natural gas to Europe than Russia. And if you think that's not a consideration, you're incredibly naive. Money makes the world go around. So if you want to know what people are going to do, look

Starting point is 00:25:23 at where the money is, and you'll know exactly where they're going. Arms dealers, military and just show a complaint. And by the way, bankers who speculate on it, there's a ton of people. Moderny traders. Yeah. And, yeah, well, you were saying, like, so you more fearful if Trump comes in about nuclear war and stuff. Obviously, I think we're closer to it now with what's happening in Russia and Ukraine. And I worked at a nuclear missile base in Montana. When people are like, I don't trust this guy because he has his finger on the button. It's a complete fallacy.

Starting point is 00:25:53 To launch a nuke, the process of what it takes to actually launch something is absurd. Like it's insane. People think that somebody's sitting there like this. That's all BS. Do you think we would be where we are with Ukraine and Russia in the whole situation right now if Trump was still in?

Starting point is 00:26:08 Or do you think regardless, it was going to happen no matter what? I think that Trump would have let Putin take as much of Ukraine as he wanted, to be honest. And so you can make two arguments about that. You can say, hey, you know what, if you just let Russia take Ukraine, there's less war. Boom, they took it, it's over, right? And what do we care if they take Ukraine? So I think that's a callous argument, but that's an argument you could make, that's not an argument I agree with.

Starting point is 00:26:31 But in terms of the whole idea that I'm going to settle Russian Ukraine in a day, come on, stop being a jackass. And even magnetism believe that. I mean, it's absurd, right? You see what Zlonsky had to say about that. Yeah. And so, but I want to say one more thing about your question. Yeah. Look, North Korea developed eight to say one more thing about your question. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:26:45 Look, North Korea developed eight nukes while Trump was president. Yep. He's so, he's all bluster. He's all talk. He has no action. All Kim Jong-un had to do was send him one letter saying that, hey man, hey bro, I really like you, right? And he crossed the DMZ and he actually stepped into North Korea.

Starting point is 00:27:04 And then he came out and said that he, that they're sending love letters to one another and that they're in love What kind of loser says that about by the way a communist dictator if Obama or Biden had said he was in love with a communist dictator Maga would rip their heads off. Trump says that the excuse everything he does So I'm not I don't think he's tough, you know, I don't, and I'm not sure that he's going to award war. I mean, did the eight-nukes North Korea develop because closer or further away from war? I don't know. If you would attack them earlier, they would have obliterated Seoul, South Korea, let alone Japan. So these are difficult questions and people keep saying they're easy when they're not easy. Let's stay there. Let's stay there. This

Starting point is 00:27:42 is good. So let's stay on this topic in In regards to a Trump love, sometimes, you know, I've been in sales for a long time and I see how some people sell. Some people sell through flattery. Some people get their ways through making you, you know, there's different ways of selling. Some people sell through consultative closing. If I were you, I would do this. Some sell through, hey, you're so beautiful.

Starting point is 00:28:01 You're so this, you're so about. You're so smart like that instantly work What do you need? 100 billion dollar jack we got to get some so but the point is like I watch how different President said like you know when Obama went to a Cuba at the baseball game and they're sitting there like oh my god I can't believe them. All right so Obama also has this stuff with who he said that but we can go with everybody that's done this okay Trump has his own way of selling that he's been selling in New York whether it sells or not you know we were at peace for four years we haven't talked ISIS since 2014 2015 so that is the part with them how he's gonna fix

Starting point is 00:28:44 you current Russian 24 hours everybody wants and How he's gonna fix you, current Russia in 24 hours, everybody wants to know how he's gonna do it. He's presented it, whether it's gonna work out or not. Most people don't believe it's gonna take 24 hours. So I'm gonna be there with you on that. But just to one point when you think about this old situation with, you know, what they're doing. Okay, so Putin says, Russia put nuclear bombs in Belarus

Starting point is 00:29:03 as warning to the West. This was a couple weeks ago. This was a month ago. When he said that, even recently, it's like, hey, you're playing with fire. Now, at this point, Putin's given a nuclear threat how many times. I don't know how many times. I'm going to say more than five times. So if you're going to do it, either do it, you don't do it, right? So it's either you're over-bluffing your hand now and no one knows you got pocket aces.

Starting point is 00:29:24 You follow it. You don't have asking and you're just kind of like acting like you got a card You got a 210 or you have a decent hand, but you don't want to go all in because you want me to think you have a basis We got pocket tens. Let's just say right? Okay, fair. Cool But should we sit there and not take the threat of the possibility that it could happen and not take the threat of the possibility that it could happen and us keep feeding Ukraine and given them more and more and more ammunition, playing more and more and more proxy war.

Starting point is 00:29:53 And you know, you brought up, I think you brought up Cuban missile crisis earlier. And by the way, there was a part of it that Turkey and Italy were involved. The fact that we're Turkey saved America. Yeah, essentially where you said, hey, you guys got to like your missiles, you got to give them up or you guys can't use them. And then boom, it kind of came back run. What if JFK didn't do that? What if that wasn't the

Starting point is 00:30:11 strategy came up years later? We didn't find out about it at the beginning because it was kind of low key. Yeah, can you pull that up? Turkey, Italy, is this the one? Pa, pa, pa, pa, yeah, this the one. Sealing the deal with Italy and Turkey 60 years ago during April 1963, the US Air Force took steps to implement the final stage of the secret US Soviet deal that helped resolve the Cuban missile crisis with the dismantling of the Jupiter missiles deployed in Italy and Turkey.

Starting point is 00:30:37 So that's something you can say, just gonna save the world, just gonna save the world, we're three, this was like a big deal that happened. Okay. So good for JFK for kind of taking that route. Flip that on Biden. I don't know, man.

Starting point is 00:30:50 I mean, you know, you're, you're, you're feeding the machine non-stop to get Putin, where you're cornering the guy, either do something about it and get the guy to fall or you're publicly saying saying here's who we're going to keep empowering and then the argument then comes back. Remember John Bolton? Is that his name, John Bolton or the war guy, right?

Starting point is 00:31:12 That hates Trump. Yeah. He's like, all our war, war, war. Yeah. Okay. So what happened? What happened with Republicans being the party that was the party of military industrial complex and hey, you know, the movie vice and look at the rums filled

Starting point is 00:31:27 and look at the chain, look at these guys, look how much money's being made beyond clubs. All they wanna do is war, war, war, war, war. Republicans wanna war every day, dude, it's like right now, the Democrats are the ones that won war and Trump the one that everybody hates from the left. That's the guy that didn't want war. He says, all I want is, I want people to stop dying.

Starting point is 00:31:43 I want people to stop dying, right? So how did the Democrats, all of a sudden, become the military industrial complex party? Yeah, I can tell you exactly how, follow the money. Everything is in the money. So Trump is not actually anti-war. He just makes money in a different way than the Democrats make it, okay?

Starting point is 00:32:00 So for example, Trump has made money from the Russians, the Saudis, et cetera, in his private life, right? So when they asked him about the Saudis, he said, look, they buy my area apartments for $40 million. What do you know what me to do? Not like them, right? But no one died. Okay, no, no, no, I know.

Starting point is 00:32:14 I'm just telling people's motivation. There's a way to make money without killing people. Yeah, and so in that case, that's actually to Trump's benefit because he's saying, look, I make money from the Russians. His sons say all the time, we got all our money from the Russians. So in that case, yeah, I mean, if you're Ukrainian, you're not happy of Trump wins. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:32:32 Okay. But if you're an American who doesn't want any piece of that war, then I get where you're coming from. Why did the Democrats switch and become military industrial complex guys? Because everyone takes donor money and the democrats now take more donor not more money than the republicans do their problems are even more corrupt but they do take more money than trump because trump is having trouble getting money from donors it's not that he wouldn't it's just that he can't right so he doesn't feel as indebted

Starting point is 00:32:59 to them whereas bidenfields indebted and hillary clinton and all of them do to every company you can imagine, including defense contractors. So when defense contractors say, jump, he says, how high? So I'll give you an example from the Ukraine war. So they did that accounting trick. I don't know if you guys caught it about a month ago or so. They say, oh, it turns out we can spend twice as much money in Ukraine and give them twice as many weapons. And the accounting trick was, oh, we're going to pretend that these things that we're selling them are new, but they're not selling them new weapons.

Starting point is 00:33:31 They're selling them old weapons, right? So it's an accounting gimmick. Why did they do that? Yeah, ostensibly to help Ukraine more in its fight against Russia, but also because then the defense contractors would make twice as much money. And all of a sudden you saw every corporate Republican, which is nearly 100% of them, and every corporate Democrat, which is about 80% of them, all jump up and go, yes! Oh, okay, accounting error.

Starting point is 00:33:55 Of course, all the Democrats cry about, oh, defense is spending too much, etc. Or not all Democrats, some of them do. And then what do they do? Robert stamp, Robert stamp, Robert stamp. Yes, the defense is awesome. etc or not all the democrats some of them do and then what do they do rubber stamp rubber stamp rubber stamp yes the defense is awesome give them everything they want give them 100 billion more than they want the pentagon gets audited they can never pass an audit they waste half our money four hundred billion dollars in the toilet to the most corrupt people on earth every single year while the democrats the republicans and corporate media both mainstream

Starting point is 00:34:24 media and Fox News, celebrate. They go out with pom-poms, yay, war, war, war, defense contractors are the best. So yes, the number one problem that the Democratic Party has, and I talk about it in my book, is that they are totally captured now by lobbyists and by corporate cash. And so unfortunately, that's also the problem that Republicans have. And so, and part of the reason,

Starting point is 00:34:48 and this is what established from media does not understand about Donald Trump. Yes, I think Hillary Clinton said two correct things in our life. One of them was the deplorable line that everybody hates. No, that's totally true. In my opinion, half the Republican base is deplorable. And I think they are racist, bigots, sexists, et cetera.

Starting point is 00:35:06 We could talk half, half, easily, half, okay. But the other half, 40 million people in America. Absolutely, not even close to, you believed that. 100%, we could debate it. Okay, but hold on, let me get to the other 40 million, okay. The other 36 million or so that voted for Trump. No, they're just angry, the establishment is screwing them.

Starting point is 00:35:26 And they don't know how they're getting screwed. They, it's exactly what Charlie Kirk says. Right, and that's what it's gorned. And they hate mainstream media and they're right because mainstream media is a factory of lies. So they'll say, oh, the status quo is great. For who? Yeah, the billionaires who run those companies

Starting point is 00:35:44 and the millionaires who are on air, yes, for you guys, everything's hunky-dory. But it's not great for when wages I didn't go up for 45 straight years now because of inflation. They ironically went up a little bit. But for 45 years straight, wages did not go up. Okay, we have no health, universal health care

Starting point is 00:36:01 in this country when every other developed world, developed country in the world has it. We have no paid family leave, we send moms back to the assembly lines and coal mines a day after they deliver. So we have corporate rule in America, and chapter five is about the matrix. And that's mainstream media that loaves you back to sleep. Corporate power is awesome, corporate rule is great.

Starting point is 00:36:21 The lobbyists are innocent, the politicians, oh my God god there's such sweet hearts they're having ideological differences and they're having debates no they're not they're getting checks and then doing exactly as they are told and that's true of 99% of the Republican party and yes 80% of the Democratic party at least stop the way you just said it was so funny so so 99% Republican Party, 80% Democratic Party. Okay. Can you pull up the chart that just came up,

Starting point is 00:36:50 this one right here, total spending of presidential campaign financing in the United States. They change a law, I think, in 2019, 2020, that allowed corporations to just open up their checkbooks. I'm sure you're familiar with this. Look at the kind of money we raised for presidential campaigns.

Starting point is 00:37:03 From Carter, 197 million to Reagan Reagan 228 million to Reagan again through 80 to a Bush senior 346 to Clinton 478 to Clinton again 612 then it's Bush 891 then it's Obama I think it's what's that 1.769 billion, 1.4 billion, you know, Obama, 1.5 to 9 million Hillary Trump, boom. $4 billion, whatever they could to get rid of Trump, they spend all the money and the world to get rid of this guy. They figured out ways to say, dude, if we can outspend that guy,

Starting point is 00:37:39 because, you know, we can be controlled. So this is the part where for me, where we agree and where we disagree. This is the part, like I had Ari Fleischer here, you know who Ari Fleischer is. And I'm like, you know, a couple of the decisions you guys, man, when you listen to the CI and the, I'm like, why wouldn't you double verify this?

Starting point is 00:37:59 This is a big decision you're making to do this to do that. Well, I don't know, we could have done this and we could have done that. And we had Paul Manafort, and I'm like, do lobbying. It's the dirtiest thing out there. And he's like, well, I totally get it. But you know, him and Roger Stone started the lobbying

Starting point is 00:38:11 from out on what you want. The most powerful lobby firms that they had together, 30 years ago, 40 years ago. So what the other guy's gonna do it? What are you gonna do? Sit on the sidelines. Okay, valid point, but I like both sides not to do it, right? However, when you look at it now,

Starting point is 00:38:26 and you see the kind of money that's being spent on the left for them to push their agendas over, you set aside this lobby stuff out, you set aside corporations putting money in to who they buy, like you know the joke about Koch brothers, well, you know, he wakes up and says, what do I get for my birthday, which president, right? Now it's more the left that's doing that.

Starting point is 00:38:45 You got the Soroses, you got the Larry Fink and Black Rock with how their ESG score and, you know, state street and Vanguard and that things become a reality where it's no longer about Democrat and Republican. It's truly becoming more about the establishment folks and the anti-establishment folks. 100% and if we're talking anti-establishment, Jank, you have to agree on this, bro.

Starting point is 00:39:05 You have to agree on this. I know it's gonna be tough for you to agree on this, but if you don't, give me everything you got, what I say right now. You can't say Trump is an establishment candidate. No, but I can't say his corrupt. So there's a huge difference. And I'll explain.

Starting point is 00:39:19 Okay, fair, go for it. Okay, so Trump is not establishment. The establishment hates him. You're totally right about that. Okay, okay. And so, which for guys like us, we like we like that don't we yeah, but then you have to see okay Why do they hate him right and so number one? He's unstable so business and you can't be controlled Yeah, and that's also true though. That's also true. Okay. Well, no he can't be controlled because he's so unstable and unhinged Which is a strength though in a way it is an edge you have against your enemy because if the enemy feels they

Starting point is 00:39:47 can't control you, dude, we have to eliminate you if we can't control you. Well, okay. Now, let's talk about that though. So now, why do I still say he's super corrupt? And by the way, that stat, those stats you showed are in my book. Okay. And I explain why. Once the Supreme Court, activist judges on the Supreme Court changed the rules.

Starting point is 00:40:06 They basically allowed for bribery. Okay. They legalized bribery. I outlined it perfectly clearly. And it was a guy from the Chamber of Commerce, Louis Powell, who said, we could just buy the Supreme, we gave, we get on the Supreme Court, we could buy the whole country. Corporations just can outspend everyone, right? And so, and they did it.

Starting point is 00:40:24 Nixon said, boom, you're on the Supreme Court and they did it in Balotti, they did it in Buckley, V. V. Vellio, they legalized bribery. Now, Trump had trouble getting money from normal corporate interests. And I agreed, that's normally a good thing, right? So what did he do? He had to go make up the money.

Starting point is 00:40:38 So he went and talked to Sheldon Adelson. So Sheldon Adelson is actually before he passed away in 2021, largest political donor in history. He gave $100 million to Trump twice to him and his packs in 2016 and 2020. What did he get in return? He got charges, corruption charges in China dismissed against them. He's like the Soros of the right. He was like the Soros of the right. That's right. That's right. Yes. Because you know, yeah, sure. Pro Israel. Yeah, he got everything. He's the guy who got the embassy moved. He's the guy who

Starting point is 00:41:07 repatriating taxes from abroad because most of his money is in Macau, China because that's where most of his casino business. And he got that tax that knocked down to 8%. So from 35% to 8%, he made billions off of Trump. And on top of getting rid of the corruption charges and the tax cuts and everything, just as a little Chachki Trump threw in Miriam Adelson getting the presidential medal of freedom. His wife. His wife. Are you kidding me? So Trump could easily be bought.

Starting point is 00:41:34 Dude, Obama got a Nobel Prize a month after being a president just for what he was. I know, but that isn't about corruption. That was just them being silly, right? Okay. So my point is the DEI score. Trump is perfectly corrupt and can be bought. It's just that who's buying him is the question. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:41:53 So you read the portion about Adelson in my book. Sure. There's no question. He did everything that Adelson asked him. And by the way, I say to the readers, are you sure you wouldn't, if somebody could funnel the $100 million to you and then, are you sure you wouldn't, if somebody kept funneled a hundred million dollars to you, and then a 200 million dollars to you? I would.

Starting point is 00:42:09 I'm sorry. Yeah, right. Look, I've given up a lot of money to do the right thing in different portions of my career. But I haven't seen a lot of other people do that. So my point is that money isn't toxicating. It corrupts Trump. It corrupts Biden. And by the way, here I'll go further.

Starting point is 00:42:23 I'll go. I'll push back on that when you're done. Okay. All right. One last thing about it. To me, though, let's look at the flip side. Mainstream media will tell you, oh, there are Republicans of Mitch McConnell,

Starting point is 00:42:32 when he takes a billion dollars from corporate interest, he's obviously corrupt. And look at it, he's working for the corporations, et cetera, right? But wait a minute, Nancy Pelosi also took a billion dollars. And almost all from the same donors. So why aren't you calling her corrupt? And everyone in mainstream media says, no, Nancy Pelosi is an angel.

Starting point is 00:42:50 And she's a master legislator. So when Mitch McConnell takes a billion dollars, he's a crook. But when Nancy Pelosi takes a billion dollars, she's an angel. No, they're all crooks. That's why we have fine signed drooling. I'm sorry, but it's reality in the Senate. Mitch McConnell freezes. He's like, they're all 90 years old.

Starting point is 00:43:07 Why? Because corporations know they get a great return on investment from those people. No question, we're on the same page there, just so you know, but here's how I gauge who can be bright and who can't be bribed. Okay. So most of the time, you know, like this Leon Black story,

Starting point is 00:43:26 I don't know if you saw the Leon Black story with Epstein, where he paid Epstein $158 million for consulting fees and estate planings over a five year period and, sure, $158 million. So, you know what I'm saying? And then, story comes out about a 16 year old girl who was autistic and, you know, so, so, Jesus. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this story came out, it's pretty wild.

Starting point is 00:43:46 So you hear stories like this, and you're like, okay, he was bot. Then you watch this video from, you'll see where I'm going with this. Can you pull up the video clip of Neil deGrasse Tyson? I don't know if you have it or not. I almost, I'll play this clip here in a minute because I don't want to confuse the two clips. I'll come back to it where, you know,

Starting point is 00:44:04 the point is being some people flip their positions suddenly where you're like, why? You would have never said that. Why are you saying that now what happened to you? At least with you, where you're at, some people are saying, what are you doing, bro? Why are you not like making a couple adjustments, you know, like, but you're like, no,

Starting point is 00:44:20 this is all I'm gonna talk about and ta-da-da-da, great, so you're not controlled. People may not agree with you, but you don't come across as a guy that's controlled, right? They don't have to like you, but you don't come across as a guy. Now some will say, well, you took money from Soros in the past, they'll say,

Starting point is 00:44:34 they're all I'm saying to you, they'll say that, that's happened, all that stuff. But to me, you're unhinged, you're not controlled, and they don't like people like you, and I totally get it. You could make a couple of adjustments to increase your business affairs, but that's to you You've chosen the play the right that you're playing When I watch a Trump and I watch some of these guys. I'm like, okay

Starting point is 00:44:56 That guy you can win him over just introduce me to a couple girls. He's good Easy way to win guys over right? Yeah, typically guys that don't get a lot of play and they're not good with words, they're not good with the ladies. You know, hey, go do X, Y, Z to him and he's going to fall for that a bar. Boom. Hey, here's the clip we got from the room with you. Guess what? Ta-da-da-da-da.

Starting point is 00:45:18 Can't happen to anybody, by the way, right? Okay. So girls is one of the ways of doing it. Attention is another way of doing it. Famous another way of doing it. You know, money is another way of doing it. Famous another way of doing it. You know, money is another way of doing it. Guess what? Trump has that at all.

Starting point is 00:45:29 He said all the girls want too many sometimes. Okay. Some that he was single. Some that he wasn't single. He said all the money. He's been to all the parties. He's got all the letters from all the most powerful people in the world.

Starting point is 00:45:42 Telling him how much they love him. Alec Baldwin, no one ever treated me like this. Oprah Winfrey, you know that book he wrote about all the letters that others wrote for him, that now they hate him. Chuck Schoen. Chuck Schoen, but you used to love me. You used to love me when this, this, that, you know that whole talk that he gave me. And he's right about that part.

Starting point is 00:45:57 Yeah, so, but the point is he's had the girls. He's had the fame. He's at the properties. He's been to the parties. He's had the money. How the hell are you going He's been to the parties. He's at the money How to hell you then like does he want to be a feasible or 2.5 billion right now? He's not let you say his words. Well, he's not he's a total loser. He's almost bankrupt Wow, okay, so you can say that and that's fine

Starting point is 00:46:16 But he's a loser, but but but if you say he's bankrupt you can say that can be your opinion But but the last 60 years or the last 50 years proves you wrong. Okay, it doesn't, it proves me wrong. 15 years of print was number one. How the hell are you that entertaining to be number one for 15 years, right? You know, financially real estate properties, when you think about a real estate name brand,

Starting point is 00:46:39 you think about one name, you don't think about 50 different names, you think about a guy that's been able to brand himself, you think about Trump. Now, are you gonna buy Trump's steak? Probably not, but you're gonna buy neither of you. Yeah, neither of you. But the point is, he's had the great victories. He's got kids that are doing well for themselves.

Starting point is 00:46:54 He's got a daughter that, you know, has a son. He's a bride. Yeah. That's a different angle you took. But where I'm going with this is, that's the part where I feel they can't stand the guy because they cannot control them. So for me when I see You know what's going on with them wanting to get rid of this guy and you're like look the big donors Don't want to give him money look how much money he got no he can't raise any money

Starting point is 00:47:18 Nobody wants to give him any money. Look at this stuff. Yeah, but the people that are raising money are the people that are not being trusted because they're part of the establishment. Left or right, a lot of people are saying. It's just why guys like RFK are getting some momentum. This is why guys like Vivek are getting some momentum. Because Vivek's got his own money, RFK's coming out doing some grassroots stuff. So what are your thoughts on this with Trump?

Starting point is 00:47:39 Yeah, so first of all with Trump, look, the guys got A insatiable greed. So I don't buy that, oh, he's had enough. He's never had enough, okay? Number two, he's a natural born loser. He's lost it. Everything except two things. Obviously he won the presidency in 2016.

Starting point is 00:47:53 Yeah, he lost the popular vote, but then Democrats cry about that. They should, the lecture college is terrible. It's a disaster. But he won the Electoral College. He won it, right? So you give him that for sure. And he's great at marketing. Just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

Starting point is 00:48:07 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

Starting point is 00:48:15 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, in 2020 and he's been crying about it ever since like a little spoil brat. Had to have his dad get him into the schools that he got into. He hides his grades from high school in college because he's a loser. He's a spoiled little baby. He blew 413 million dollars from his dad. Blu it all. Then he got 400 million dollars from apprentice.

Starting point is 00:48:39 Why was that successful? Because the producers, I know the producers on that show, they had to treat him like a baby. Hey, baby, come here, baby, say this. There's the same producers have done, shows that flapped. Yeah, you know how hard it is to keep the same producers who did other, it's so hard to keep a number one head show for five years.

Starting point is 00:48:55 Okay, but if you want to say Trump is entertaining, I don't disagree with you. That's what I'm saying, he's pretty good at marketing, right? And he says these terrible things, but they're, but people laugh, right? And I get it. And you know, he's giant strength that people don't talk about and, and no one in mainstream media acknowledges this.

Starting point is 00:49:12 He doesn't look fake. I think he's a con man and he's been a con man in his whole life, but he looks authentic because he doesn't go off a proctor. And you think, well, that's a real guy who's saying crazy crap to nobody else would say. And all other politicians look like actors. They, their robots, they come out like Pete Buttigieg came out from a factory. Everybody knows that, right? Gavin Newsom, but also DeSantis and Macon. They're all robots. They come and I will do this. I have been told by my donors. This is great policy, right? And so he has a feelings of authenticity, but if you look at his records,

Starting point is 00:49:47 like you said, great and real estate, he's awful in real estate. In Atlantic City, he built three casinos. Everybody said, you're gonna cannibalize it. You moron, you're own business. And you know, one of his top assistants says he just likes his name and lights. So he'd like to see Trump, Trump, Trump in Atlantic City,

Starting point is 00:50:03 and he bankrupt at all three, because he sucks at your business. You think you're good in business? Yes. You think you're good in business? Yes. Yes. Yes. Seriously.

Starting point is 00:50:13 100%. Okay. So, once you're birthday, by the way, what once you're birthday? March 30, 21st year. So, okay. Your pie, your pie, see? Aries, beginning of your year. Oh, you made it to Aries.

Starting point is 00:50:22 Yes. Interesting. My dad's in Aries. I get along with Aries. Okay. So, he's in April 10th. You're marked. So, you barely are in Aries, beginning of air. Oh, you made it to Areas. Interesting, my dad's in Areas. I get along with Areas. Okay. So he's in April 10th. So you barely are in Areas though, by one day, right? Beginning of the...

Starting point is 00:50:31 Interest. Okay, you made it to the right. Yeah, so. So, okay. Bro, when you say that, you know, for me, I feel like if there's anybody that would be like a pro-Trump kind of confusing way would be you. Okay, I know this is like, this guy's lost his mind. You have no clue who the FIM, are you crazy?

Starting point is 00:50:48 There's no way. Because in business, do you have a perfect record with business? No. Do I have a perfect record with business? No. Nobody does. Nobody does. But has Trump taken it to certain levels

Starting point is 00:51:06 that his dad didn't take it? Yeah, that's not easy to do. His dad wasn't as famous as this guy got. It's a very hard work to do that. There's a lot of kids that are spoiled kids from a rich father who don't do shit with the money and they become crack addicts and they become drug addicts. And they hire prostitutes all the time

Starting point is 00:51:23 and they go try to sell their laptops at different places and they you know I'm not saying about anybody specific but this is happening. This is happening. We're saying it about someone who's just kind of stuff that's happening everyone. Oh, why, right? There's stories like that that you hear, I was like, okay, this guy's going to make you, this guy's not going to make you. So there is something about him.

Starting point is 00:51:41 One can say John, I've kind of became a president because of his father, Joseph Kennedy, because I had a, okay, fine. And Joseph Kennedy became successful because his dad had all this money from him. Okay, fine. Okay. There's some of it that's got to go to the credit of the individual. Perfect. So if I listened to you and I didn't know who you were, okay, and I just came to America and I've heard about this Trump guy and I've heard about the Biden guy. And I'm listening to you, I would say that guy is angry at Trump for what reason. He's either envious of Trump. He's angry with him because he sounds personal. He doesn't sound like he's being reasonable. He sounds he's being personal when he's attacking Trump. And I think he loses credibility a little bit

Starting point is 00:52:26 for taking the angle that he does. Because you're coming from a place of saying, this guy got this much money and he became rich because of this. And he's a loser. He's a this. Did the guy who was on Oprah Winfrey, 1988? And Oprah Winfrey says, so, hey, you sound like somebody that's going to, you've seen this.

Starting point is 00:52:43 You sound like somebody that's going to run for office one day you sound like somebody that's gonna run for office one day. No, no. Well, do you have any plans? No, but if I ever did, I would win. Who the hell says that? That's like a Babe Ruth call. You know, when you say I'm gonna hit the home or you point to Fingering, you hit it.

Starting point is 00:52:55 His book crushed it. His show crushed it. He crushed it and New York going up against all these other guys. He's done good with women. He's done good with his kids. He became a president. I don't know. Love them or hate them with women, he's done good with his kids, he became a president. I don't know, love him or hate him. I don't have a relationship with him.

Starting point is 00:53:09 So there is not like a, I'm defending this guy, I'm doing it, we're in Florida because of the Santas. We came here because all of a sudden the Santas, I'm watching him market, I'm not doing it. You're not even after doing your part marketing, finally he's getting to it and everybody's asking a question that they shouldn't be asking, which is what,

Starting point is 00:53:24 why are you so down on the polls? Can you make a comeback? You should have never allowed these people to ask that question if you would have played offense earlier but when you see a winner and complicated individual a misunderstood individual I Don't know how many people you're gonna put on the list as Trump in in the history of America by the way Whether you love this guy or hate this guy. It's kind of tough to de-menize the guy's resume. And I know you like to do this,

Starting point is 00:53:49 but it's kind of tough to do it. Not remotely tough. You think so, Pat, look, I'm giving you new on stansers. I'm telling you that he's anti-establishment in some ways. And that's part of his appeal. I'm telling you he's good at marketing. And almost everything you're saying is, he's good at marketing.

Starting point is 00:54:04 He was good on TV. He was good at marketing his book. He went on Oprah It's marketing marketing marketing. No, you said he wanted two things and what I did is I showed his resume That's more than two things. It's it's a bunch of different things that he wanted that was my defense to you saying He only wanted two things right at the market outside. Imagine imagine if your dad gave you 413 million dollars We don't we don't know that's the number But you're but you're saying $400 million. Yeah, New York Times says this was $400 million. New York Times also said science is,

Starting point is 00:54:29 New York Times have to take a photo of us. New York Times is also lied about me, I understand. Okay, but, but his dad was enormously wealthy. There's no question about. There's no question about. There's no question about. And which he lost. It's 14 by today's standards or what was it back then?

Starting point is 00:54:41 What was it actually? 14 million is the number of you here? Okay, no, no, no, no, no, wait. It's, it's, look, I forget, I think it's by today's standards, but was it back then? What was it actually? 14 million is the number you were talking about? No, no, no, no, no way. It's, it's, look, I forget, I think it's by today's standards, but I'm not positive. Okay. But it's not 14 to 413. That's not how inflation works.

Starting point is 00:54:54 So, but Pat, if they gave it to you, you'd probably be worth four billion by now. I don't know about that. Okay. Come on. It's such an enormous advantage. You have kids. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:55:03 What are you talking about, bro? Let me unpack this for you. So one of the hardest things to do is to be the pastor's kid. Are you kidding me? Like the pastor's kid is like, so you gotta be a virgin until you get, I'm gonna go freaking smoke weed and I'm so sick and tired of this pressure. You're gonna be this, no, I'm not, bro.

Starting point is 00:55:22 I just, I remember we're at a church. We're going to the church. The pastor's son, you ready for this? This is a pastor loved by so many people. His son gets arrested across the street from the church, with a crew of players taking stuff from Best Buy. And the pastor's gonna come on Sunday and preach in front of 20,000 members. So the point I'm trying to make to you is nobody wants to be Michael Jordan's kids. Nobody wants to be Brady's kid.

Starting point is 00:55:51 The level of pressure and scrutiny of wanting to do that. Trust me, I understand the level of, you know, influence and additional cards and stuff that you can get, but we did a research on a generational wealth. I got kids and I'm trying to see how do I set it up for my kids to get my wealth without them being spoiled.

Starting point is 00:56:10 Okay, so it's something that's important to me. I kind of want to figure out. I'm in a community, couple families do it right. So I said, let me go on and study this to see how to do it right. Vanderbilt, do you know how long the wealth lasted? Scott was a richest man in the world, given money back to the country.

Starting point is 00:56:23 You know how much, how many generations money lasted two generations? Two usually it's always two generations. The only, the only wealth that lasted seven generations, the Medici, Medici lasted seven generations, it's the only one. Every other one is two, three. Rockefeller's still on four right now.

Starting point is 00:56:37 They're not even on five, six, seven. So the notion when you're saying like, if you, you wouldn't have had to start, bro, a lot of people you give them money, they become spoil your little brats. I, a lot of people, you give them money, they become spole-alittle brats. I had a guy I interviewed who lives in Seattle. You know what his job was? He managed the Templeton family, 16 grandkids.

Starting point is 00:56:53 You know what his job was? His job was, he was the guy dealing with billionaire families. And reason why I see that, or you know why see that, or Amazon, Microsoft, all those guys, all these, there's all these billionaires and guys that are worth a hundred million that no one knows who they are.

Starting point is 00:57:08 He's worth 28 million, a hundred and 48 million, a hundred and 300 million. They're kids, drug addicts. He says, my biggest job with these guys was to make sure they didn't do drugs, they didn't do out there, so you know what the biggest problem with me was? He says, what's that?

Starting point is 00:57:20 They typically came to me too late. They came to me too late, that I couldn't do anything about it. Did this guy's never drank alcohol? He's never done drugs. He doesn't do that. I mean, that kind of stuff to come from that amount of opportunity to screw up, that's not easy to do. Six bankruptcies. I mean, just, you run, you know,

Starting point is 00:57:38 look, people make mistakes in business. If you're not making mistakes, you're not really a business man. Like, there's no question. I get it, right? And I'd cut them a lot of, I'd cut any business person a lot of slack for, you got a bankruptcy, you got two bankruptcy, it happens brother. Six, he's never had a successful business.

Starting point is 00:57:54 Trump stays Trump water, Trump casinos, you can't name a successful business, he bought an airplane company, instant, he put gold a in an economy airline and immediately went bankrupt he's terrible business but look if you say it's personal number one it isn't because I'm giving you nuance on both sides okay but having said that look it got personal when he lost election in 2020 and said ah screw it I'm going to try a coup I'm going to do these fake electors scheme I'm going to try a coup. I'm going to do these fake electors scheme. I'm going to try to rob America of its democracy just so I can stay in power. Screw that guy. And if any of you are voting for that guy who's totally un-American, who betrayed this country,

Starting point is 00:58:35 you're nuts and he won't ever leave office. He's a wannabe dictator. He always praises dictators, whether it's Xi and China, whether it's Kim Jong-un and North Korea, Putin, he's always saying, oh, they get all their plows when they walk in, no one's allowed to disagree with them. And then freedom, freedom, my ass, he hates freedom. He wants to take away everyone's freedom

Starting point is 00:58:55 so that all the power goes to him, okay? So no, Pat, look, you can, I'm not laughing at you, it's entertaining what you're saying. And it's a 100% truth. I can see, okay, so let me ask you a different question. Who do you trust more? Him or Biden?

Starting point is 00:59:08 I don't trust either one of them. It's not about Trump. Okay, so who do you see more? If your choices are the two guys right now, you're gonna sit this one out? Oh, no way. I'm gonna vote Biden. Okay, so because I want another election,

Starting point is 00:59:19 I don't want, I don't, if you put Trump back in charge, there's at least a 50% chance, we're never gonna have another option. So let me ask you this other question. To the people who, when Hillary lost, you've seen that clip when Hillary lost. It's one of the greatest billboards set at best

Starting point is 00:59:36 when he was on Conan O'Brien. He says, look man, forget about the Olympics, Russia, US, forget about the home run, forget about this. He says, dude, this guy beat Hillary Clinton. It's like the people lost their minds, right? What did Hillary Clinton do for four years? You know what she did? She went around campaigning around what?

Starting point is 00:59:54 They stole the election. They stole the election. They stole the election. And we, before, before she was doing it with all that bullshit. Yeah. But they didn't say that he physically stole election. There's a giant, giant difference saying, oh, boo, who, which he did, of like, oh, the Russians interfere in election, which by the way they did, but not enough to make the difference,

Starting point is 01:00:14 okay? But that's just crying after you lost. Whereas Donald Trump's, no, said, had a scheme of fake electors to do a goddamn coup. Hillary did not do that. And she did, and she did actually conceive. Wait, wait, hold on. She conceived it. Well, here's my question, Jen.

Starting point is 01:00:32 So let's say you are, Trump, you legitimately win the election. You said you don't use the word legitimate. Time out, time out. You won in 2016, you find out all these years later with the dorm report and all that shit that not only did Hillary help set up lawyers, the dossier, everything. How can you blame somebody for not trusting the FBI or the, like, everything in 2000? That's a good question.

Starting point is 01:00:59 That's a good question. I wouldn't trust anybody. Okay, so look, when he asked for a recount, I said, hell yeah. When he asked for a hand recount, I said, hell yeah, why? Progressives have been asking to verify elections for decades now, right? But when some Bernie supporters back in 2016 said, no, Hillary stole the election from Bernie in the primaries, I said, look, when you're talking about how they set up the debates, how they funneled money from the donors to the state, Democratic parties, that's true.

Starting point is 01:01:27 But if you're talking about evidence of rigged elections, you have to come with fricking evidence. And our side didn't. So I said, no, I don't care how angry you get at me. Hillary Clinton did not steal the votes in those elections in the primary in 2016. So when you get to Trump, if he says, hey, I want to recount great, but they did, they recount it three times, they did hand recounts. Then they went to court 60 times.

Starting point is 01:01:54 And guys, this is definitive. He couldn't present one piece of evidence. He had 60 shots at it. You know why he couldn't present one piece of evidence? Because there is no evidence. There is no evidence. And he no evidence and he knows it. He made it up from day one. He's a giant liar.

Starting point is 01:02:10 He's always been a pathological liar. And he came in and said, I don't like this. I think he stole it. He made up seven million votes. Hugo Chalvez, they blamed the Kraken. All these insane donkeys or mules or whatever the hell. Get out of here. Hey, all these insane donkeys or mules or whatever the hell, get out

Starting point is 01:02:25 of here. Hey, all of Maga, show me one piece of evidence in court, not BS. Oh, I said it on TV, there's no count. No, all you ever do is lie on TV, all the politicians lie on TV. Go to court, show the evidence until then shut up and stop trying to steal elections and stop hating America. America's about elections is about democracy. So by the way, I will say this to you.

Starting point is 01:02:51 I will say this to you. So you're right when it comes down to if you think the other person is guilty, show the proof and go through it. That's the whole thing with innocent until proving guilty. Totally get it. But bro, mainstream media ran for three and a half years that Trump, Russia, all that stuff. I'm not saying you, I'm saying mainstream media ran against them.

Starting point is 01:03:09 Three and a half years every day. This guy thought, he'd Russia got him elected. I mean, people that we know, smart guy, but brother, mainstream media hates progress if they've destroyed our movement. I'm not saying, oh, we won the election. But I said to you, I said, not you. I said, not you, I said, not you, I said

Starting point is 01:03:25 mainstream media. But my point is, Pat, you got to play the playing field. That's true for me. That's true for Trump. So, yes, mainstream media hates him. Yes, they did propaganda, propaganda, yes, about three and a half years. But that's the playing field. Don't forget it.

Starting point is 01:03:38 No, it's totally fun. They have the edge. Listen, Republicans, if they want to have that, go buy some Republican, go buy some media companies and compete directly. Musk is buying Twitter. Great. Go out and play your game. If you're going to do what you're going to do, and I some republic go buy some media companies and compete directly. Yeah, musk is buying Twitter Great go out and play your game if you're gonna do what you're gonna do And I'm gonna do a lot of influences elections more than anyone. Murdoch is right now more at a whole different place He's no longer he's not a team Trump. I you know that bro

Starting point is 01:03:54 He's not but where I was going to this the following. Okay, so the part for me that got confusing was the follow Okay Do you remember during COVID? I had a lady named Judy, Mike, of its own. He used to work with Fauci in 1980s with the AIDS thing. Oh my God, it was like, boom, two million views taken down. Short clips, strike, strike. What? Okay, let's interview this other guy.

Starting point is 01:04:19 Boom, don't do them. Strike, strike, okay. Boom, strike, they took like 40 of our videos down during COVID. And we kept doing the interviews and we were not like, well, this is 5G, remember the whole 5G thing? Like, that's very quickly, everybody thought it was a 5G. But there was a community that was like, well, this is what's going on, here's what they're doing,

Starting point is 01:04:39 that's what they're doing, okay, cool. You know, we're like, all right, let's kind of take a look at to see what's going on. Election claims. Yeah, this is what they did, you know, the drop and blah, blah, blah, cool. You know, we're like, I, let's kind of take a look at the see what's going on. Election claims. Yeah, this is what they did, you know, the drop and up, up, up, up, up. Okay. Yeah, election fraud has been going on for a long time.

Starting point is 01:04:54 Okay, this ain't anything new. It was something known for Democrats that would do a lot with John F. Kennedy. Do we all this stuff? And it's been going on for many, many years? Great. Okay, they're doing that. But if you put up any clips, disputing it, guess what? You were getting strikes and they were taking those videos down. Then two, three months ago, YouTube comes out and saying, moving forward,

Starting point is 01:05:14 we're no longer taking those videos down. They can stay up. Okay. Why would YouTube do that? Why would YouTube not allow it for two and a half years and all of a sudden YouTube? Can you pull up that clip on YouTube, change our guidelines on election claim or whatever? Like now moving forward, we're not gonna take it down and we're changing our guidelines forward. So I'm not saying one or the other,

Starting point is 01:05:34 but did YouTube behind closed doors are they worried about a Twitter files coming out? Are they worried about, yeah, YouTube changes policy to allow false claims about past US presidential elections YouTube will stop removing content that falsely claims a 2020 election or other past US presidential elections We're marred by widespread fraud errors or glitches the platform announced Friday This is what AP news less than two months ago. It's exactly two months ago. You know, it is when they put it up Why would they do that? I have a good theory. I'm curious. I want to hear your theory what they would do.

Starting point is 01:06:06 Yeah, because now every Republican believes it. The same like eight out of 10 Republicans believe it. So what are they going to do, ban every Republican? So I think they got to a point where they're like, we give up every right-winger believes this nonsense that's totally made up. So we can't ban all the right-wingers, so we just got to let them say it.

Starting point is 01:06:22 How much of it as well? You know, these guys on Rumble are kind of picking up. Not really. No, no, no, it's got no steam at all. Stephen Crowder's career is dead. Everybody who's on rumble's dead. Stephen Crowder's career is dead. Of course, he went to rumble. Three people watched there. That's a terrible mistake. He should have taken the daily wire deal. I forget politics, right? Daily wire offers him 50 million dollars. You could have stayed on YouTube. He would have been relevant and had more money. It was a disastrous decision by him. Look, I'm happy to be wrong. If it turns out Rumble does great going forward, I'll come back and say I was wrong, but I'm telling you, you talk to guys on Rumble right

Starting point is 01:06:55 now. Obviously, fresh and fed is on their snickers on there. Not the point. I'm sure three people who are getting views, but on YouTube, the whole world is getting views, right? YouTube is taken over the planet, and that's part of why they're doing this, because they're like, what are we gonna do? Not allowed any right wingers on YouTube, but if you guys say they're a little worried about competition, fair, no problem,

Starting point is 01:07:14 I'm sure they considered that their business. So we got two theories so far. Your theory is eight out of 10 Republicans believe the election was fraught, so it's like, hey, let's not lose the Republican. Republicans buy shoes as well, because kind of like your angle where you're taking, your sane rumbles given them competition, maybe that's it,, let's not lose a republicans by shoes as well because kind of your angle where you're taking You're saying rumbles given him competition. Maybe that's it. Maybe let's add Twitter in it because Twitter is eventually gonna be doing video

Starting point is 01:07:30 So I think actually Twitter is a bigger fear to YouTube than rumble is probably no matter how much they trash Twitter I think Twitter is gonna eventually figure that I don't think he launched it launched a guy that gives up easily It's called ex now. That's how that's how I don't know how to say I'm gonna ex Go read my ex. I just exceeded something. It's kind of now. That's how Twitter was fake. I don't know how to say I'm gonna go read my X. I just exceeded something. It's kind of weird, right? So I read it. Yeah, we'll adjust too. But to me that was kind of weird when they did that.

Starting point is 01:07:53 And you know, my other theory was maybe, you know, the whole, like I said earlier, Twitter files and formation came out. How many people on the Fauci side were, you know, embarrassed on what's going on. Even Rand Paul came out here and announced this, official criminal referral Fauci COVID is a lie. Page 11, I'll read this story here, Rob,

Starting point is 01:08:14 if you wanna pull it up. Senator Rand Paul made an official criminal referral to the Department of Justice, accusing Dr. Anthony Fauci or pre-pregur- an official criminal referral to the Department of Justice, accusing Dr. Anthony Fauci, a pre-preduary, a perjury during this testimony about COVID-19 and funding gain of function research in China's Wuhan Lab Paul called for an investigation into Fauci's knowledge

Starting point is 01:08:37 of dangerous virus research Fauci, Fauci faced criticism after release emails revealed. He knew about gain of function research in Wuhan Lab, despite denying it during previous testimony, the government accountability office confirmed Wuhan Institute of Irology in Wuhan University received NIH funding for coronavirus research. The debate over COVID-19 origin continues with some officials suspecting a lab leak theory due to the Wuhan lab's location and research history, while other support a natural spillover event from animals.

Starting point is 01:09:08 So, are they afraid that maybe a YouTube files is going to come out and they're going to show behind closed doors communication with Fauci about not allowing those types of videos to be shown? I don't know. Are the YouTube files going to come out, email saying, hey, you can't let them show these clips about, you know what they're doing with the election and what happened to it and those videos with this meals and all this stuff,

Starting point is 01:09:31 you can't let those guys gotta be taken down. This is creating too much momentum, maybe. Could it be that they were afraid for maybe additional stuff to come out with communication with Biden? I don't know, like I remember when they changed, one of my favorite things about YouTube, I don't know if you liked this one, I loved it. When you could give a thumbs up or thumbs down.

Starting point is 01:09:51 You know, I loved the thumbs down thing. Because I'm like, we would do a video, I'm like, damn, I thought this was a good video, they hated this video, you know, ratios were so bad with thumbs up to thumbs up. Biden's videos, I don't know if you remember this, okay, dude, when he was campaigning, it was like 28,000 likes, 600,000 dislikes.

Starting point is 01:10:09 Like every video's like to dislike racial was astronomical. It got so bad and out of nowhere during election, they said due to mental and anxiety for kids, we're gonna get rid of thumbs down. Yeah. So, we're feeling over logic. And so, you know, some of this stuff, maybe for me, where YouTube is sitting there saying,

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Starting point is 01:10:54 voters or 75 were like, if we knew about the Hunter Biden laptop and what Biden, everything that's coming out right now, we wouldn't have voted for him. That's, if we're gonna talk about interference in cheating, the guy that's sitting in right now, and I know you're not a fan, nope, I don't think anybody at this point is, but that is hands down cheating with the Department of Justice, and now it's like, eh, nobody really cares.

Starting point is 01:11:16 I mean, look, you can make the same argument for it. James Comey hadn't come out with the Anthony Weiner lab, Papilla, Clements, right? And so did they rig the election in favor of Donald Trump the first time around? So there's a ton of factors that go into an election in terms of YouTube. I think they mainly took it away for like political correctness, slash mental health reasons, et cetera. But I don't mean it for Biden. I mean it like kids these days are very upset if anyone does a thumb.

Starting point is 01:11:39 Who cares? Right. I need that. No, because they care about kids because that's a huge, huge part of their audience. But in terms of Biden, of course, he kids, because that's a huge, huge part of their audience. But in terms of Biden, of course, he gets 600,000 dislikes. Why? Two reasons. Number one, he's a fake politician, and people don't like fake politicians on YouTube. And number two, because the Republican troll army is gigantic.

Starting point is 01:11:56 They, like the Democratic trolls are barely exist, although now on the radical left or some, right? But, but the right wing is all trolls, so they're, of course, they are. But those are, look, Pat, I know YouTube, and it's a giant business. Those are minuscule concerns for them. Now if you're going to get to Fauci, that's an interesting topic, okay? So I'm a huge believer in vaccines. I think those vaccines saved millions of lives.

Starting point is 01:12:19 I think they were great. I think the scientists in the world are correct. Bob on Facebook is incorrect. Now having said that, we do nuance. Truth matters, right? It's not about ideology. So was it a lab leak? Probably, okay. And I said that well over two years ago, because first thing they come out and they say, okay, we got a COVID outbreak here right next to the Wuhan lab on phyrology. I'm like, well, it does take a rocket scientist to figure this out, right? Or a neurologist.

Starting point is 01:12:49 Right. And then they said, no, all the scientists have weighed in and it wasn't a lab leak. I go, okay, I believe in scientists. So I said, I guess it wasn't, although it looks, but I guess it wasn't. And then they put out a statement like around middle of 2021 or early 2021, they're like, we were kind of lying about that. And yeah. And the scientists don't agree. I was like, oh, that's it, I'm out.

Starting point is 01:13:07 It's definitely like, I can't say it's definitely a lab leak because I don't have the evidence, right? But logically, it is very likely to be a lab leak. And check, check. Remember the John Stewart going on Steve Redcope, remember that whole reaction? It's just so fun. And this was when the lab,

Starting point is 01:13:23 like if you even brought up the lab leak, it was like, you're a conspiracy theorist. It's like, why? Everything you just said was absolutely correct because the leak came right in Wuhan, right next to the Wuhan Phirologist Institute of Lab Leaks. You know, like, what? Okay.

Starting point is 01:13:38 But John Stewart went on there. This one, and he basically was like, essentially standing exactly what you're saying. It's like, but you want me to believe that a bat made out with the pangolin and that's in there. It's like, it just makes sense. And by the way, when they put out things like that and it turns out it was like four government scientists,

Starting point is 01:13:55 when they put out statements like that, they do great damage to science. Because then they lose credibility. And then when nine scientists, and nine years out, just out of scientists and jumping, we need people to believe them. I agree with you. Really important.

Starting point is 01:14:08 And so they're still playing around with some things around political correctness. And so it drives me crazy. Now, you have to follow actual science, right? And leave ideology behind. And how do you feel, Cheg, about like, Pat, who's that guy that R.F.K. was like, I'll, they'll debate the guy, but he was Peter Holtes. Peter Holtes and he's like, well, like how do you feel about them?

Starting point is 01:14:27 Like literally, like an RFK, I don't know how you feel about him, I'm interested to see. But if you're a scientist, what are you scared about to sit there and talk with a guy that's not a scientist, but he's dedicated his entire life to this world? Why wouldn't you want to show the world? Like, hey, I'll debunk whatever this RFK character's gonna talk about, why wouldn't they do that?

Starting point is 01:14:47 I know the specific answer to that, because I know RFK Jr. from a long time ago, because he was, you know, a significant left-winger for a long time, environmental lawyer. Yeah, and he was actually a really good lawyer and cares a lot about the environment. So, another nuanced guy, okay? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:15:02 So, he asked me to find scientists to debate them on vaccines well before COVID, because he's always been in gas vaccines, right? And I went and tried because I think we like exchange of ideas. We allow for disagreement on TYT, right? So, and I asked a bunch of scientists to do it and they wouldn't do it. Why? At the time, there wasn't as much skepticism about vaccines. And they're like, so if I go on, it seems like a 50-50 debate when it's not a 50-50 debate, it's not me, it's every scientist in the world versus RFK junior,

Starting point is 01:15:31 but if they're watching that debate, they can't get a sense of that, that's point one. And point two, I'm not great at debating, I'm great at science, right? And so if this guy beats me in a debate because he does some rhetorical tricks or something, I've set science back instead of forward. That's why they didn't want to do it.

Starting point is 01:15:46 Nowadays, I think there's a better argument to do it. Find a great, you know, debater among the scientists, you gotta find one or two, right? And have them say over and over again, the thing that is true, 99% of the world's doctors and 99% of the world's scientists believe in these vaccines and they believe in them for a reason. And by the way, we're now doing the same thing

Starting point is 01:16:04 fundamentalist Muslims did. When we, and I researched this one, RFK Jr. asked me about it, however many years ago, five, seven, eight years ago, right? And like they were doing polio vaccines in Pakistan and they're like, oh, yeah, the Christians are trying to put, you know, something in our blood and we don't want it, not all of Pakistan, but some portions, the ones that are closer to Afghanistan. And then because they didn't get the vaccines polio struck and then when their kids were disabled, they're like, no, please, please America sign just come back, okay? But it was too late by that.

Starting point is 01:16:35 Now our own Christian fundamentalists are doing the same thing. No, I don't want the vaccine. You're gonna put a chip in me. Dude, Adela Musque is trying to put chips in your brain and you're okay with it, but you thought there was some 5G crap in the vaccine? No vaccine saved lives. There's a story out today that hundreds of thousands more Republicans died because they didn't take the vaccine.

Starting point is 01:16:56 You're only hurting yourself when we're trying to help you, but look, now the danger has passed in terms of like spreading it to other people, now it's turning to basically a common cold. So if you don't want to take the vaccine, have at it, Haas, don't take it, I don't care at all. Because it's your business, not my business. Then it becomes just an issue of freedom,

Starting point is 01:17:12 then you're right. But before it was an issue of spreading it to other people. Got you. Well, I mean, you're saying that, where you're talking about the vaccine, saved so many lives, all this other stuff. You have one of two positions to take there. Okay, when you say that. And this kind of works against Trump, by the vaccine, saved so many lives, all this other stuff. You have one of two positions to take there. Okay, when he say that.

Starting point is 01:17:25 And this kind of works against Trump, by the way, because it's his own side that didn't take the vaccine. When he says, no, I'm the one that did, warps, you know, there was a sped up, originally there was. Yeah, and if it wasn't for me, which he's right, he's the guy that didn't sped up the process, and Pfizer announced a vaccine a week after election,

Starting point is 01:17:44 actually three or four days after election when it was finally approved, it's going to come out versus coming out two days before they could have announced. So we know some of that stuff that's kind of fishy, right? So, you know, what do you say to these stories that's coming out? Athletes, you know, passing out, Bronnie James, LeBron James, the other day, middle USC, you know, is a myocarditis and, you know, the athlete, hamillian, from Buffalo Bills, and you're seeing more and more and more videos

Starting point is 01:18:09 and it's creating that level of skepticism with the side effects of a COVID vaccine because they only had nine months to test it out and how do we know it was fully good and the, you know, side effects that it has, how do you respond to that now? So signs on that one is unsettled. So some people, like there's a lot of people making up stuff, I got a shoulder ache, I got a back ache, that's got nothing to do with vaccines, okay?

Starting point is 01:18:32 But now on that heart issue, they've changed the numbers twice, okay? So they said it was a lot more rare, then they said it was a little less rare, now that's a little less rare, right? Now by the way, that doesn't mean that you shouldn't necessarily take the vaccine because hey, the vaccine side effects could affect, you know, 10% of people, but if you don't

Starting point is 01:18:51 take the vaccine, 20% could die, right? So vaccines, again, it doesn't mean you just don't take it. But there could be an argument totally unsettled. I'm not saying this is the case. I'm saying they got to look a lot more into it. And for God's sake, let them do actual signs without political interference from either side, right? So look and do it more. And it might make sense that the young don't take the vaccine. I was just going to say there's no reason why at these 18 now. So it would have been 16 at the time. Let's

Starting point is 01:19:17 say a 16 year old world class, all American athletes, like a Bronny James, should be even consider taking the vaccine. Yeah, it makes no sense. No, I agree. Now, grandma James, who's 88 years old wants to take the vaccine, go for it. Yeah. You want to take it obviously go for it, but to be mandated for a young, healthy guy,

Starting point is 01:19:38 that makes no sense. I hear you on on that, and I'm just gonna say one last thing about that, guys. So a lot of people misunderstand science. So when I say the science is unsettled, that's because they haven't done enough studies yet, right? That doesn't mean, oh, they're rigging it and they're changing the numbers.

Starting point is 01:19:52 No, you change the numbers, there's more facts coming, right? And that's ultimately RFK's entire point, is it not? Not exactly. RFK's always been against vaccines, and I've never supported it. But it's the thing here. I think he's more about against mandating vaccines without them being tested.

Starting point is 01:20:05 That's the point. I don't think he's about no vaccines are all bad. He goes, we need the testing. He's not. He's not for all. Yes and no. I've read the whole book. I don't know if you read his whole book or not.

Starting point is 01:20:16 I've read the whole book, I've got to cover very, very technical book. It's not a book you read. And it's like, you know, you have to be ready when you read that book and set the phone aside, get away from the case to be able to read that book. It's not a book you read and it's like, you know, you have to be ready when you read that book and set the phone aside, get away from the kiss to be able to read that book. But, you know, I think you sound reasonable right now when I'm listening to you, just to be fair with you. You sound very reasonable. You took how many boosters did you take, by the way? Probably I took three shots over, I think.

Starting point is 01:20:39 Oh, so you took the two shots and one booster? No, I took Johnson to Johnson. So I took one shot in the beginning and then two boosters. Okay, got it. So I haven't taken anything, by the way, I didn't take any of it in our family. My dad took everything plus four boosters and he is the most conservative guy in our family. So he's not a, like, you know, he's far on a complete,

Starting point is 01:21:00 he's an imperialist, he's a shock, guys. So just kind of, if you want to see where he's at, our nanny took it, I didn't take it. My wife didn't take it. Our kids didn't take it. But when you see this thing, the biggest concern for me with this is this report came on New York Times reports, coronavirus, that's over count about 30% on paragraph 17.

Starting point is 01:21:15 You can find this and we went to New York Times, we found they were like, yeah, we over counted. And maybe by about 30%. These types of reports that's coming out, I'm not going to debate. This is not a debate. I'm just gonna give my thoughts and we'll go to the next issue. The part that was a little bit concerning with this

Starting point is 01:21:30 was again, going back to the judgmental side, dude, people got out of the military before not wanting to take the vaccine. It was the fourth part. When you say, yeah, of course, we don't have enough data, we get data and the facts change and numbers, I don't, yeah, I agree, I totally agree.

Starting point is 01:21:44 But allow me to have the level of the option to say, Of course, we don't have enough data. We get data and the facts change and numbers, and yeah, I agree, I totally agree. But allow me to have the level of the option to say, can I see you a little bit more to side effects happens for me to want to take it? Sure. No, if you don't, you're fired. If you don't this, if you don't this, that was the part that I think they played their cards

Starting point is 01:22:00 in a way that completely lost the trust of the populace in a big way where they forced it down people's throat without being able to see what the real consequences were. But I want to ask you about RFK since Vinny brought it up. And I do know you also have two announcements to make. We got one more hour just so you know whenever you're ready to announce that you let us know. But guys, if you're watching this, you're enjoying this podcast.

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Starting point is 01:23:01 that's coming up this Friday. So okay, RFK, We can either put them together. I'll actually put both of them together and can respond collectively with both of them. RFK, when I interviewed him the first some three years ago during COVID, I never thought he's gonna run. Like that was never like, RFK's gonna run.

Starting point is 01:23:20 And I don't even know if he wanted to run. I don't know, you know how some people for years, like the Santas, I feel like he's been wanting to run his entire life. Hillary, I feel like she's wanted to run her entire life. Me and Ramney. Yeah, I feel like a lot of it. We can give a list. You know who these guys are.

Starting point is 01:23:33 It's on the list. Totally. I don't think our fk was on that list. I don't think he cared to run, you know, want to do it. Vivek, maybe. I think Vivek is ambitious enough to think that he thought he would be the youngest president ever. I can actually believe that. I'm 50-50 there. Why do you think of Vivek that's almost

Starting point is 01:23:51 passed up the Sanctus? Okay. Why is Vivek an RFK? Why are they doing so well in this election? Why do you think they're doing so well? Yeah, two totally different reasons. And I pulled this, and I haven't told anybody about this poll before and I'll tell you, on the Democratic side, there is a great hunger for someone who is not Joe Biden. Now that's a well known fact, but we pulled it and almost anybody on a one-to-one matchup against Biden, you could put it in Bob Smith, Jim Giblauski, made up name. Love Jim Giblauski. I love that guy.

Starting point is 01:24:25 Yeah. Yeah. We should actually do it. Run a ball and put Jim. Jim. Don't trust me. Yeah. There's a random guy in Wisconsin.

Starting point is 01:24:33 Jim Jablowski's like, I'm running for president. Yeah. This is happening. And we did it. We did that poll. Including I put my own name in. I put in a bunch of progressives. All of us got 20% or higher.

Starting point is 01:24:42 Yeah. Okay. You're right. There's a yearning for him not to% or higher. Yeah. Okay. You're right. There's a yearning for him not to be the president. Yeah. RFT is not actually popular when I talk to Mary and Williamson's campaign. But you said RFT is actually not popular. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:24:55 So they just don't know who he is. They're not going to him because of his anti vaccine stance, anti establishment stance. They're going to him because his last name is Kennedy. And they're like, oh, that's better than Jabalowski. Stop. I'm saying that is true. It is true. You know, I'm saying his last name.

Starting point is 01:25:09 I'm not agreeing that it's the only reason, but that's like, okay, somebody has to. Some people say the other Kennedy were public and on the other side with the accent related to the Kennedy. I'm not. I'm not. He could have been a comedian. It's hilarious. But that's why he was elected, Pat, because he sounds like, but he's actually

Starting point is 01:25:27 not a Kennedy. So anyone there. So and by the way, Kenneth, RFK, Jr. and Mary Ann combined have about 20 points. Like, they're 20% of Democrats are like, I'll give anyone not named Biden. 80% of that is RFK in 20% of his marriage. That's that's true. To be fair, but to be fair Kennedy's a giant name versus Mary and Mary has been smeared by the media etc. right so but if you're saying is there an anti establishment vibe in the Democratic Party? Hell yes hell yes it's larger than 20% why do you think Bernie almost caught Hillary and by the way I should have been the candidate he should have been of course of course, Bernie, Hillary did her due diligence with the DNC and they screw

Starting point is 01:26:09 them all around. That was a chance. They screwed them all. Yeah. And look, I said Bernie could win back in 2013, three years before he closed a 50 point lead, right? Yeah. And why?

Starting point is 01:26:20 Because there's this great hunger for don't give me fake politicians. Yeah. And they all stay at all, well, he's stupid mythology, no one believes, oh Joe Biden's the boy from Scranton. No, he's the boy from Washington DC. I mean, we're not blind. We saw him in Washington DC.

Starting point is 01:26:33 I lived in the last 50 years. Yeah, let's get a little out of here with Scranton. Okay, no one believes that horse crap. Like, come on. Oh, and I fought corn pop. And she shot off. So like nobody believed I would go. By the way, shockingly I fought corn pop and she shot off so like nobody But lifetime ago by the way shockingly the corn pop story turned out to be true It's I couldn't believe it. Yeah, by the way by the way bind lines all the time in the mainstream media covers for big time

Starting point is 01:26:55 So yes, there's a hunger. He's the goat of that area though. Reliant would you say you put him at the top as the goat? No Trump's always stop. No, are you kidding me Trump? He's the guy doesn't use it every every speech he ever gave teleprompter was written by somebody else. He was all definitely. No, that plagiarizing it. No, no, but there's a difference in known lying and not known lying. Like Trump is knowingly lying, whereas Biden is just literally forgetful and dumbass. Just how the guys I'm, I'm put my foot down here. Don't ever, ever undermine the goat of all time of line, President Joe Biden. Don't ever do that again.

Starting point is 01:27:34 That's an insult. This is a guy that does it in a way. I never talked to my son about his straight look on his face. He's just a man of gold. He's in first term. He's a goat. Keep going. I'm curious, where was the amount of life Trump resigned? Did you put Newsom on the list of the of the people that yeah, yeah, what he do?

Starting point is 01:27:52 Newsom did better than the rest when we put a laundry list together. Yeah. But he didn't did, but what I found interesting about it was that he didn't jump out. Got it. Like it wasn't like, Oh, Newssham's head and shoulders above everyone else. Thank you for running. Well, it depends. So everyone in the establishment, look guys, I'll be honest with you. Some people thought one of my analysis was that I would announce the run for president, right?

Starting point is 01:28:15 And I thought about it. And I'll tell you why I thought about it. It's because this voting base is super hungry for an actual anti-establishment person who's actually progressive, right? So RFK juniors got issues with progressive. Mary Ann's a wonderful person, but she's mainstream media has done credible damage to her and her perception of credibility, right? If you give me one strong progressive, we'd run through this field like a hot knife through butter and we'd run through Biden. Bernie Sanders number one problem was that he refused to attack Biden. And we all know this.

Starting point is 01:28:53 I know everyone in his campaign, they've said it publicly now. They had notes for him to go attack him during a debate and he wouldn't do it. And honestly, he prioritized his friendship with Biden over all of his voters. And so I love Bernie, but that broke my heart. And so if you said to me, Bernie running again, I'd say no, because he's not going to run. He's not, he's going to get in the race and then tell you Biden is great. No, that doesn't help at all, right? But you give me one strong progressive and we can definitely be Biden.

Starting point is 01:29:19 I got so desperate, I thought about myself, right? I didn't show. So look, there you have to run as a third party. You can't run as a Democrat. No, no, no, I'd run you? So look, there you have to run as a third party. You can't run as a Democrat. I'd run as a Democrat. No way I'd run as a third party. You'd get smoked. No, I wouldn't.

Starting point is 01:29:30 You would get smoked. No, no, no. You would get destroyed. Absolutely. They would never let a guy like, I know. I know, I know. Yeah, they make you look like shit. Quick.

Starting point is 01:29:40 So look, I ran for Congress once and I got eviscerated by mainstream media. People say, hey, why did you lose so badly? Well, if I had read, got 5.4%. No, I got six. I got all the way up to 6.6. Six points. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:29:52 Pat, have a little respawn. No, no. One of them was 5.4%. Then you went up to six points. You know why? They still didn't stop. California is incompetent in a lot of ways that Democrats don't acknowledge. They never stopped.

Starting point is 01:30:04 They only count of 76% of the vote. If I was Trump, I would say I won. Okay. No, no. But why did I get only 6.6% because Los Angeles Times, New York Times, CNN, all told people that I was anti-Muslim, anti-Semitic, anti-black, sexist, anti-beastiality, every lie in the world. And the New York Times printed it like it was true.

Starting point is 01:30:28 And so what I would tell people is, if I saw that written about a candidate, I would vote against them. I'm originally Muslim, I don't wanna vote against someone who's anti-Muslim. And they never gave me the mic, so they never gave me an opportunity to respond. And if you don't have an opportunity to respond and mainstream media smears you, you're done.

Starting point is 01:30:47 You have no chance of it. What makes you make a movie? Why would it be different? Why would it be different in the presidential? Because and I'll tell this to any progressive who's thing you're running and who's got any kind of courage, okay? Look guys, the presidential level is totally different. There's all sorts of press.

Starting point is 01:31:03 They almost can't deny you press. Here I am on this show. I can go on almost any right wing show. I can go almost on any online media show as so could any strong progressive. You can go on OAN, you can go on Newsmax. Eventually you'll get on the Fox News. Look at what Vivek's doing.

Starting point is 01:31:17 Vivek was nobody, nobody, nobody. Like let's be honest, I'm 10,000 times more famous than Vivek before he started. Right? Not now though. Yeah, but not now. Why? Because Vivek is using media. You don't, in the past, mainstream media had a monopoly.

Starting point is 01:31:31 And during 2016, they still had that monopoly. And so that's why the Bernie run was miraculous, miraculous, and the press shut him out completely. In 2015, as he's doing a historic run, ABC spent seven seconds talking about him in primetime news, seven seconds. They spent more, like, all of the networks combined, spent like four times the amount of time talking about Joe Biden, who didn't run in 2016, then they did about Bernie Sanders who closed a 50 point lead. So the mainstream media is the most biased.

Starting point is 01:32:02 And look, they're tied with Fox News. They're all horrible. But you give me a strong progressive. You let me do strategy for them. And we will manage that. That's a system. I'm progressive. Give me two or three.

Starting point is 01:32:15 Look, this is the game that everybody plays, right? So the minute I name a name, everybody goes, oh, no way, it's a progressive real way. Oh, they have no credibility, et cetera. So look, I know she lost two races, right? But Nina Turner, and those two races would be used against her. She lost two congressional races, right? Who is that? Senator Nina Turner is loud. She's a shit talker. All right. Tina Turner, though, the real one. Who's Nina Turner? She is a Nina Turner.

Starting point is 01:32:41 Okay. Yeah. I'm familiar with her. Yeah, Neon attorney was the chairman of one of the chairmen's, you think she has a chance to be the president of the United States? Oh hell yeah. Okay, so I know, but that's what everybody says now. No, no, no, no, no, you're 100% wrong. Okay. So you're buying into mainstream media. And I'll tell you why.

Starting point is 01:32:57 I know, I'll tell you why. That's the president of the United States right there. God damn right, if she ran. Jack, okay, laxed. So no, hold on, hold on hold on hold on so let's Clearly y'all no no, but this is you're doing exactly what I predicted ahead of time right here a minute ago Okay, the minute I name any progress or you go. Oh, no, I haven't heard of them. No, make sure you meet a sense inside I don't know way no way and she doesn't look right. I mean you like you don't even know anything

Starting point is 01:33:19 You know first of all when I've seen her first ball just so you know I had no clue what she looked like because the only face I know is Twitter and the videos there. I go based on what she said. The stuff she says is super extreme together. It's not, I'm just telling you, from my side, I'm watching what some of the stuff that she says, she sounds extreme,

Starting point is 01:33:37 but go ahead and say why you think she would have a shot. She's anti-establishment. Okay, so if she was on this show, and maybe you should get her on the show, she would tell you things incredibly similar to what I'm saying. So we don't buy in to establishment Democrats. We don't buy in to mainstream media. And when we don't, they smear the living hell out of us. Okay, they smeared me, they smeared her, they smeared every progressive on them. But I'll name a non progressive to catch your attention,

Starting point is 01:34:03 because I, you know, because we've all been brainwashed into thinking No progressive could ever win right John Stuart he'd clean Joe Biden's clock. He beat him in a last I don't disagree right? I don't disagree so just give me someone who's kind of progressive and I will beat Joe Biden Okay, so Because probably only five seven, but let me but let let me, but let me, but you remember though, but what he does, he does something that's very interesting is he plays a joke towards height towards his height, where I don't know if you've seen when he did it with Bill O'Reilly and he had this thing that brought him all the way up to be taller than him.

Starting point is 01:34:35 So that in itself, guess what it does, they want it's self deprecation. Nobody gives a shit about your height. It's over with. I'm with you. Yeah. So, so, so I don't, yeah. So, so going back to that. So, you know, where are you going with your announcement? about your height it's over with. I'm with you. Yeah, so going back to that. So where are you going with your announcement? Do you want to give it now?

Starting point is 01:34:49 You want to wait till the end of the show? Yeah, no, no, I can talk about it. Look, I decided not to run. So look, I have two giant hurdles. So number one is, they'll bring up the election. You lost the congressional race. How could you possibly win the presidential race, et cetera? I can get beyond it, but it's a hurdle. And it's a pain in the ass. They can loss most of

Starting point is 01:35:07 his races. Yeah. So. And the second thing is I was, I wasn't born in America. Now, in reality, you can definitely run for president, Patrick Good news for you. You could run for president. Law review articles say absolutely. Fifth amendment got rid of that earlier part of the constitution. It's total mythology that we can run. And by the way there's forty five million americans that are naturalized citizens it is the last allowed discrimination where they say fifteen putt percent of the country's not fully american they can't run for president when it isn't even true the fifth amendment before here i'll give you a sense of it so you know for sure fifth amendment fourteen amendment freeze the slaves, gives them 100% rights. They

Starting point is 01:35:45 were not natural born citizens. No one disputes that. When they were born as slaves, they were not natural born citizens. After the fifth and 14th Amendment, could they run for president? Of course, of course they could run for president because those amendments amend the earlier part of the constitution. And I'm sick of every time I meet someone and pat this probably happens to you too. Oh, you're a citizen. Oh, where were you born? Oh, you weren't born here.

Starting point is 01:36:08 Ha, ha, you can't run for president. And we all think that that's okay. Like I get it. People who do it, they're just, they're innocent. They're, they don't mean any harm by it, right? But we, every one of us, Ted Lu came from Taiwan when he was five years old. What are we questioning his loyalty to America? Are we questioning your loyalty to America? Are we questioning your loyalty to America?

Starting point is 01:36:25 Are we questioning my loyalty to America? That's actually deeply problematic. So it's totally alive. But it would be a giant hurdle. The minute I announced everyone in mainstream media would say he's eliminated. Don't even think about him. Don't even talk about him.

Starting point is 01:36:40 He wasn't born in America. He's not 100% American and everybody's like, bro, oh great discrimination, we love it. We love it. Nobody even notices. I need someone without those two hurdles. Nina's got the two hurdles because she lost those two elections. I get it. That's real politics. But give me someone like that. By the way, there's progressive businessmen and people don't think about that and they have a lot of credibility right and so in the press would treat them with credibility because they're wealthy so those guys could run there's a ton of people who could run and who could win

Starting point is 01:37:16 and look at what Vivek is doing it's so easy and why is Vivek successful because number one he's actually going on media most corporate politicians hide from media because they're fake, they're phonies, they don't want, you think they're going to come on a podcast like this and get grilled on actual questions. Do you think they're going to come on young Turks? They did in 2016, you should see the interviews I did with Tim Ryan, Toasty Gabbard, et cetera. Those are really important people who won't do it. The corporate politicians won't utilize the rest of media. They'll only go on mainstream media.

Starting point is 01:37:47 If you utilize, you can get some of the names like whose corporate politicians left and right. Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, the Senate, the corporate politician. Yeah, totally. Yeah. And by the way, to be fair to DeSantis,

Starting point is 01:37:58 a lot of people on the left say he's a fascist. No, I disagree with a lot of his positions, including the racial stuff, the general identity stuff, et cetera, but no, he's not a fascist. The fascist ends democracy. There's only one fascist that's Donald Trump. Donald Trump did fake electors to end democracy. But if you misuse the word, that's, and that goes to one of my announcements. Like, look, I'm declaring young Turks mainstream progressive. And so that's kind of bold because it's a made up category. And when I say it, people all over the internet hate me,

Starting point is 01:38:29 right in every different faction. And they'll say, oh, who's Jank Eager to make up mainstream progress? So I'm not gonna follow that. Nobody's gonna follow that. Well, I'm planting in flag. TYT is homo progressives, that's the whole network. You're a leftist, you're mainstream progressive,

Starting point is 01:38:43 you're a moderate Democrat. No problem, everybody come to TYT, you're mainstream progressive, you're a moderate Democrat. No problem. Everybody come to TYT, okay? Home of Progressives. But young Turks, the flagship show that Anna and I do, we're mainstream progressive because I'm sorry, but I don't agree with the leftists. I don't agree with the radical left, right?

Starting point is 01:38:56 So I don't agree with the establishment and I don't agree with those guys. So we got to have a home for us. And if you brought me a mainstream progressive that doesn't have some of the radical positions you guys are worried about, we win, we win, we win. Okay, but I tried, I asked a lot of people to run. And you know the number one thing that people are worried about when I asked progressives about running, they all say the same thing.

Starting point is 01:39:22 Mainstream media. Mainstream media will bury us. They will try to destroy our lives. In the old days, they did assassinations. Now they do character assassination. We saw that. They did that with your favorite guy, Trump. They did that for God knows how many years, right?

Starting point is 01:39:35 Now, look, that's the ultimate character assassination guy. Big time. Yes and no. So yes, definitely the character assassinated him. But he reminds me of the Jeff Zuckerquart. As to why they fired him at CNN, he had the relationship internally. He's like, I loaded a gun and handed it to him,

Starting point is 01:39:52 and they shot me with it. Trump is loading gun after gun. Here, I'll break this claw. I'll break this claw. I'll take the documents home. And he's handing loaded gun after loaded gun to the people who want to assassinate his character in the first place.

Starting point is 01:40:04 Right? And he makes it easier for you. You're saying what? Okay, yeah, you're saying he's... He's handing loaded gun after loaded gun to the people who want to assassinate his character in the first place, right? And he makes it easier for you. You're saying what? Okay. You're saying he is. It's the fact that we're a Chris Cuomo, basically highlighted when we interviewed Cuomo. Yeah. But what's your relationship with Chris Cuomo?

Starting point is 01:40:14 What do you think about Chris? I like Chris. And so I get heat for liking Chris, but I like Chris. You know, I like him. Why is that? Because he's open-minded. And so he actually is more, a lot more establishment Democrat than I am. We disagree on a lot of the policies, et cetera. And I, his brother, I can't stand. But,

Starting point is 01:40:30 but Chris is the only guy who ever had progressives on his show in cable news. No one else ever has progressives. Interesting. Yeah. You like you guys are a likable guy in person. Oh, in person, he's enormous. He'll have everybody. He'll have everybody. He'll have a great time. And check, when you say you don't like his brother, what's the, Oh, Andrew Cuomo's the definition of a corrupt establishment Democrat. I mean, you give him any kind of money, he'll do you any favor. And the real state interest in New York totally owned Andrew Cuomo.

Starting point is 01:40:57 Andrew Cuomo took out progressive after progressive in New York, put in, he purposely reduced the power of the Democratic Party, did a splinter group that, a in, he purposely reduced the power of the Democratic party, did a splinter group that he authorized to pretend that they had to share power with Republicans so he could do his donors bidding. Like no one does the donors bidding better than Andrew Cuomo. That's why when Trump, in the beginning, if you remember, before Joe Biden, before anyone else, before Andrew Cuomo ran into trouble, all of the liberals, like the establishment Democrats, were like, oh yeah, Andrew Cuomo,

Starting point is 01:41:29 Andrew Cuomo is doing so good with COVID. Well, Andrew Cuomo, why? Whenever you see a lot of people talking in the press about positively about one guy, that is almost always propaganda. Like, and here's how you know Biden might be on his way out. All of a sudden a glowing piece in one of the, I forget if it was Vanity Fair or one of the other pieces,

Starting point is 01:41:48 article magazines about Gretchen Whitmer. How to know where the governor of Michigan. And all of a sudden she's our savior. I'm like, why, do we need saving? And then you have a newsroom, it's all over TV. You know what that means? They're getting cavalry ready. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:42:01 Because by, look, Biden, as they should though. And they should, because look, my number one problem with Biden isn't should though. And they should because look my number one problem with Biden isn't how conservative he is. It's just me. Is it a little hot? Yeah. Okay. Can we crank up the AC because I'm trying to see if the okay, go for it. So now my number two with problem with Biden is the that he's a corporates, these liars, all that stuff. My number one problem with them is he's going gonna lose. Like we're playing with fire. We talked about it with Oppenheimer. So if Trump is as bad as I think he is, would I wanna run a super weak old man

Starting point is 01:42:32 who doesn't even wanna campaign against him? Yeah. A guy whose popularity is oftentimes in the thirties, here's a giant lie of the mainstream media. Only Joe Biden can beat Donald Trump. Wait, why? First of all, tons of people can be Donald Trump. Donald Trump's in the 30s in approval rating.

Starting point is 01:42:48 Jim Chablowski can be Donald Trump. Donald Trump. The only people who can't be Donald Trump are establishment Democrats who are deeply unpopular because they're fakes and they're phonies, right? So they say, oh, Biden beat him last time. He beat him by 43,000 votes in three swing states. It doesn't matter how much he won the popular vote by he the lector of college he only one by the skit of his teeth

Starting point is 01:43:11 and he was fifteen points higher at that point the democrats are walking into a slaughter with their eyes wide open and say i would rather lose to trump then have a progressive is archaed so so let's let's the other so number number one, two announcements, three announcements. You're not running two young Turks is now the progressive mainstream media. It's what you're calling it. Is that fair? What I said, mainstream progressive, mainstream progressive.

Starting point is 01:43:36 I'm sorry, mainstream progressive. And three, justice is coming. Put the link down the first book you've ever written. We'll get back. We'll get back to this at the end of it as well. Just so if some people want to order this book, we're going to put the link down the first book you've ever written. We'll get back. We'll get back to this at the end of it as well. Just so if some people want to order this book, we're going to put the link below. So let me go back to this on Vivek and RFK.

Starting point is 01:43:53 And then also, you're not running. And then you mentioned her, Nina Turner, I think that's her name. Yeah. And then you mentioned John Stewart. Okay. So you also said that you could run based on a 14th amendment, but you're not born here, so they're gonna go against you, but even if they do, you can still run legally?

Starting point is 01:44:11 Oh, legally, you could definitely run, but your problem isn't the legal part. The problem is everyone in media is gonna say, don't vote for him, he can't run. Legally, you can run not being born here. 100%. How do you know that? I can give you the law review articles

Starting point is 01:44:25 that are written about it. So how come nobody that's not born here has ran yet? But by the way tons of people have, they're all Republicans and Republicans get different rules and they all like Ted Cruz, Canada, that kind of where you're going. John McCain, George Romney, like have the Republican candidates are in board in America.

Starting point is 01:44:41 So you're saying Pat can run from. No, I can. I have you have you ever explored what he's saying. No, I have. I have. But what I'm saying is like if that opened it up, you know how many people love America more than some people that are born here who would be formidable candidates to go compete. Holy moly if they knew I don't 100% know if you're fully there.

Starting point is 01:45:05 If you send me this stuff, I'd love to take a look at it. Look at the story. Look at the first one. Patriotism is the client. Only 80% of young adults are extremely proud. But I'm going to wrap this up and we'll go to them. We got a few videos I want to show you because you mentioned some things about. And I want to run one more thing by you.

Starting point is 01:45:21 Yeah, great. But I want to go back to the Stuart side. So I agree with you in the following area i think if a rock ever wanted around this is a time to do it i think if a stuart's ever gonna run this is a time to do it i think if a uh... well i don't think aoc can now i think she's gonna run in four years i think she ought to do it but i think right now and by the way this is not saying i would vote for them i'm just saying as a agent

Starting point is 01:45:43 of opportunity this is the season to run, you know, the RFK running as a Democrat, you know, initially I'm like, listen, if you don't win, you got to run as a third party, apparently you have to run as a third party from day one to be able to run, et cetera, et cetera. So that's not gonna favor him a lot. Why do you think students in running?

Starting point is 01:46:01 He sounds like he wants to run. He sounds like a guy that wants to be president. He sounds like he's doing all these debates, bringing people in and destroying them on his show. I think the show would app or whatever the show is. How come he's not running? Because politics is a cesspool and he's not wrong about that. So by the way, if he got into a crowded field, then people would, the media would assume that he's not going to win in the, give him plenty of good coverage. But if he got in right now, the media would have escalated.

Starting point is 01:46:26 In the beginning, there would be a flash in the pan, they'd be like, oh, Justin, it's getting in. Oh, that's super interesting. Oh, we're gonna have something to talk about. They're going to escalate them to the... Yes, yes. If you run against a corporate Democrat, the media will destroy you.

Starting point is 01:46:37 Look, look at what they say about him. Give me an example. I have no idea. They'll come up with the needles. The haystacks perfectly good. We all like the haystacks, so they're gonna dig, dig, dig, until they find needles. For me, they took jokes that I made 20 years ago,

Starting point is 01:46:50 seven years ago, 13 years ago, and pretended they weren't jokes. I mean, New York Times said that Beast Shalty was part of my platform, basically. Are you insane? Are you a lunatic? That is actually what got my vote, Jack. Look, at the end of the clip, at the end of the clip they're talking about.

Starting point is 01:47:06 I go, would a horse say no? No, right? And you saw that and you said, pretend it was real. Come on, they called me anti-Muslim and they didn't say to people, oh, by the way, the dudes born Muslim is with whole families Muslim. They just lay, smeared the crap out of me. Isn't there a single editor? So I say that not because of me, but because they will find BS needles in John Stewart's life. And they'll try to destroy him with what

Starting point is 01:47:29 do you think about Cuban? Mark Cuban. Mark Cuban is an interesting cat. I know him a little bit. He's a smart guy. He's an interesting guy. He's probably too conservative for my tastes, but would he be interesting in any primary? Yeah. Of course he would. What would you consider him on the progressive conservative,, you know, sometimes sometimes he says things that I agree 100% with. And sometimes he says things that infuriate me. That's everyone. Yeah. So and do I know all this policy is enough? I think he's part of it. I think he's doing his intentional. Yeah. So not committed to both sides, but he's way more left than he is right. So look, it devils in the details.

Starting point is 01:48:05 I care about policy more than anything else in the world. So like when Howard Schultz ran, in the beginning, I was excited. I was like, okay, it's not a normal politician. Yeah. He ran Starbucks. Starbucks was a progressive company. We thought, right, now we find that Starbucks lives up aggressive. Howard Schultz, definitely not progressive.

Starting point is 01:48:19 And he came out and the first thing, he's like, we got to make sure there's no tax cuts on the rich. I'm like, you're running as a Democrat, and that's your war? Can't, nah, nah. So, so if it turns out Mark Cuban is not at all progressive, then I'm not interested. But if it turns out he's anti-establishment

Starting point is 01:48:35 and a little progressive, let's take a little progressive. Can you do one favor, just define progressive. And then at the same time, you said you were in a fan of the woke left, make that distinction. Okay, great question. So number one, makes your progressive believes in all of Bernie Sanders' economic policies. So paid family leave, hire minimum wage, Medicare for all, end of gerrymandering, end of bribery and in politics, gay corporate cash, et cetera, those are all incredibly popular positions. Two thirds of the country

Starting point is 01:49:03 wants all of that, okay? But you mentioned AOC, I wouldn't advise AOC to run. Some of our positions are too radical left. And the world's gonna end, so she said the world's gonna end so live and run if the world's gonna end. Well, that's a different question. That's about climate change that we'd come back to. But like she went on air on CNN, we're talking about abortion.

Starting point is 01:49:22 70% of the country agrees with us. They should be legal in the first two trimesters, right? And she starts referring to mothers as birthing persons. I'm like, what are you doing? You know how many people want to refer to moms as birthing persons? Two percent. And you're gonna, and I caught some heat over that.

Starting point is 01:49:37 Yeah, and so we drew the line and said, no, we're not gonna call moms people with uteruses. And they're like, you're doing that out of nowhere. You're attacking us. No, brothers and sisters, if you're going to want to guess Biden, you're going to run to try to win the country over. Don't go to the 2% position, go to the 70% position. So many progressive policies are sitting right there at 70% run on those, but she can't help herself. So she's gonna run on things like birthing person and I mean, look, some on the left now

Starting point is 01:50:08 believe in abolishing prisons. I'm sorry guys, I love you and I do. They're on our network and they're good people and they mean well, but that's not so. Nobody believes in that, right? So do they understand the fallacy of their argument? Do they truly understand how ridiculous they sound? No, they don't.

Starting point is 01:50:25 I mean, look, they had this debate on a show with a right-winger and a left-winger, Brianna Joy Gray, was on the left, and she's making the argument against, she's making the argument for abolishing prisons. And the right-wing guy, who I don't agree with normally at all, he's like, yes, but if I hit somebody in their face with a break, I go to prison, right? And she's like, no. I'm like, oh, what was the reason for that? Because prisons are awful.

Starting point is 01:50:49 That's true, prisons are awful. That's why we should reform them. Like, for example, my whole life, everybody's like, oh yeah, you get raped in prison. I'm like, why is that? Oh yeah. I'm like, we can fix that. Come with the sentence.

Starting point is 01:51:01 Right, do you know the more, here's your job suit and some loo. Best of law. Even the last time I checked the your job suit and some loo? Best of my life. You know, the last time I checked the stats, more men get raped than women because of prisons. That's insane because they moved away from soaps to jail. Like, yeah. That's scientific.

Starting point is 01:51:15 Can you pull up? So they're not wrong that prisons are awful and we should reform then and norways the better model. Even though it drives me crazy because I kind of like vengeance a little bit, but Norway brings down recidivism so much more than we do. But they're saying, no, we get rid of them, and eventually we have Kumbaya.

Starting point is 01:51:35 We had him on the show, we asked 1,000 times, and then what? And they talk about restorative justice. Oh, you can do restorative justice, you can, for a lot of people, right? That took the wrong turn. But some folks just are born different. They don't murder for people.

Starting point is 01:51:51 What do you want to do with this guy? Yeah, I'm not letting him out. Let him out. By the way, if you ask the same exact folks on the left, yeah. Hey, should Trump go to prison? They're like, yes. Wait a minute, I thought we were abolishing prisons.

Starting point is 01:52:01 Yeah. Okay, why is Trump going to prison? Why is why color criminal? What did they say to that? They have no one's prompt to go to help the trucks. Like they want to put them on an island, Alcatraz, but Sean Connery. Yeah, and look, I don't want to make them out

Starting point is 01:52:13 to be like a huge part of the left. They're tiny percentage of the left, right? But they get the press. We got 30 minutes left, and I got a few more stories I want to go through. This was good, very helpful. Did you have one other, you said you had one other thing? Yeah, one other thing is, look guys, I'm curious, I'm genuinely, super curious what you guys

Starting point is 01:52:29 think. Look, I've kind of given up on Congress. I tried the inside strategy, I tried to help Bernie. I formed just a stammer crats. We got 11 folks in Congress now, but they just won't do it. They won't pass any laws that Americans care about. And by the way, the culture wars makes everybody rich. And so the right wing loves the culture wars, the left wing loves the culture wars, that

Starting point is 01:52:49 country hates the culture wars, and the country gets nothing because of the culture wars. So what I want to do is ask right wing shows, left wing shows, and every show in the middle. Can we unite on any policy? Because everybody says that the country is divided, hopelessly divided. I know that isn't true. We are hopelessly divided on some issues, race everybody says that the country's divided, hopelessly divided, I know that isn't true. We are hopelessly divided on some issues, race, gender, et cetera, but we are not divided on economic issues.

Starting point is 01:53:12 So maybe this is the best show to come on ask for this. Maybe this is the worst show I don't know you tell me, but paid family leave polls at 84%. Three quarters of Republican voters say, yes, I want moms to have a break after they deliver their children. Okay?

Starting point is 01:53:27 So, can we push from the outside? Can the right wing and left wing go, yeah, we agree on this. Forget everything else. We hate each other on everything else. But we agree on this. Give moms a break. Okay? Give them 12 weeks off after they deliver.

Starting point is 01:53:41 That's pro mom, pro conservative pro life, right? It's also pro progressive. We all agree. Can we push from the outside and say, God damn it. Do your stupid Hunter Biden investigations or your brilliant Hunter Biden investigations, whatever you want. But as you're doing all of that, can you just give us one bill paid family leave. Mom's get 12 weeks off in Estonia.

Starting point is 01:54:04 They get 82 weeks off in Estonia they get 82 weeks off and Sweden they get 64 weeks off in Japan they get a whole year off why because they want to encourage people having kids they want to encourage families that's why three quarters of Republicans agree now why don't they do it if 84% oficans want it because they're all corporates the corporate republicans and the corporate democrats take money from corporations the only people in the country who don't want moms to get twelve weeks off our corporate interest and they bribe all of our politicians and that's why i've given up on the inside track but i bet that if all the shows on that side or enough of them

Starting point is 01:54:45 said yes, paid family leave. God damn it, give them at least 12 weeks off, right? That maybe we could get it passed. Where's this poll, 84% do you know what? Any poll, you could look up any poll on paid family leave. I just typed in right now so you can find it out, but. What is the current time? Page time.

Starting point is 01:55:01 Zero, zero day zone. Wait, oh boy. Zero. The other's the only thing. The zero moms have to go back to the assembly line the day after they deliver. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

Starting point is 01:55:09 I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

Starting point is 01:55:17 I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not the world, 100% get. Okay. Who are the 24%?

Starting point is 01:55:25 All rich people. All executives, all government officials, et cetera. He got three of those. Yeah. So executives get 12 weeks off. That's standard fare. Okay. So as a company, like we give 12 weeks off, but in the beginning, the standard was, you

Starting point is 01:55:40 give it to the executives. And we said, no, we're going to give it to everybody. And people are like, whoa, you're going to give it to everybody and people like whoa you're going to give it to everybody that's crazy because it's in the corporate mindset that you don't do that for the average American. So average Americans we all agree we all agree the media's lying we don't disagree about everything let's go do this together let's go pass paid family leave if we breathe down there next and you guys breathe down there next they're gonna gonna notice. Media controls that. You ask a question, what can we agree on? Okay.

Starting point is 01:56:07 Let's, let's do me a favor. Pull up, it was 74% Republicans, 83% independent, 94% Democrat, this is July 2018. Can you do me a favor? Let's see if we can agree on this. Pull up the Neil deGrasse Tyson video, okay? Let's see if we can agree on this. So here's a clip, I wanna know what you think

Starting point is 01:56:24 about the scientist, what he's saying. Whether you and I can agree on this. So here's a clip. I want to know what you think About the scientist what he's saying whether you and I can agree that this is absolutely ludicrous or you may say no I think there's a point you're go ahead and play this clip point is apparently the XXXY chromosomes are insufficient Because when we wake up in the morning we Because when we wake up in the morning, we exaggerate whatever feature we want to portray the gender of our choice. Either the one you're assigned, the one you choose to be whatever it is. And so now, so now just to tie a bow on this, I say to you,

Starting point is 01:57:14 somewhere I read, somewhere I think I read that the United States was a land where we have the pursuit of happiness. Yes. Suppose no matter my chromosomes today, I feel 80% female, 20% male. I'm gonna, I'm gonna put on makeup. I'm gonna do the, tomorrow I might feel 80% male. I'll remove the makeup and I'll wear a muscle shirt Why do you care? Yeah, no one cares what what what what business it is it of yours To require that I fulfill

Starting point is 01:57:41 Your inability to think of gender on a spectrum. Okay, pause this. So why do you care? Before I give you mine, do you agree with what he's saying? I largely agree. Tell me why. So first of all, freedom, I thought the right wing was in favor of freedom. So people want to be trans. Why do you care?

Starting point is 01:58:00 I totally agree with that. And so taking away rights from people. No, we're all 100% Americans, you shouldn't take away any rights. But if you get into the details, that's where some folks on the left have attacked me as a transphobe, because I disagree on 2% of the issues.

Starting point is 01:58:15 So, you tell me what your policy you're talking about, and I'll give you my answer. So, for example, if you, like, one of my favorite shows I went with my wife in Vegas, absent, I think it was called absent. absent, yeah. absent, whatever. I don't know if you've been to it or not Have you seen the show? It's great. It's breaking insane show But guess what it is a lot of crazy stuff you're gonna see we were entertained as adults We were absolutely entertained. No problem

Starting point is 01:58:40 You want to dress up you want to do whatever you want to be gay after your 18 years old go for you want to change your sex You want to go from having this to cutting this up in the Caitlyn general do your thing Whatever you're an adult pushing that agenda onto kids and confusing people and gaslighting that hey XX who knows maybe XY who knows when you start talking like that with facts and You're a respectable talking like that with facts and you're a respectable scientist, not only do you sound delusional, but what you sound like is someone like Leon Black that somebody has something behind closed doors on you that's blackmailing you that you have to now agree with these

Starting point is 01:59:16 positions. For somebody to say, how the hell did you go from being a respected scientist to all of a sudden saying, one day I can wake up feeling like a female, one day I can wake up feeling like a male, and why do you care? No one cares. The only care where I think Democrats are losing a big part of their base, where I don't know if you saw the stats that came out talking about senior boys

Starting point is 01:59:38 are becoming overly conservative. Did you see this chart or no, that just came out yesterday or the day before? Rob, do you have this or no? Do you want me to text it to you? Type in senior boys conservative. Did you see this chart or no that just came out yesterday or the day before? Rob, do you have this or no? Do you want me to text it to you? Type in senior boys conservative. Yeah, if you can, this is the hill. If you can go high school boys or trending conservative. And if you go and show the chart, that chart, right, if you look at that zoom out a little bit so we can read the whole survey. Okay, so political identities of 12th grade boys, percent identifying as liberal versus conservative from 1975 to today.

Starting point is 02:00:07 So look at blue where it was at and now, 2023, it's conservative and less liberals. This is seniors, 12th grade boys, okay. So maybe some of these guys are just fed up with an intellectual like this, man, I'm sick of this, yes, dude, either this, whether I identify as a boy or as a girl, leave me alone, let me figure out when I'm an adult.

Starting point is 02:00:27 Stop imposing this idea on me. I had Anthony Wiener on the podcast, okay, a week ago. I don't know how you feel about Anthony Wiener, but I had him on the podcast a week ago. And it was right before Chris Cuomo. And I look at Anthony Wiener, I said, you know, do you know how to give a blowjob? And he looks at me in a weird way, like what kind of a question is that? I said, well no, do you know how to give a blowjob? And he looks at me in a weird way like,

Starting point is 02:00:45 what kind of a question is that? I said, well, no, do you know how to, says, no. I said, did you learn how to give one? No, nobody, Tom, why are you asking me a question like that? I said, because that's what's being taught in some public schools today with books, with images on how to give it, and it's normal, okay? Now these pictures are out there,

Starting point is 02:01:02 these books are out there, and they put it right on their sold millions of copies, and a lot of parents are around the country are fighting for them, it's in your state, which you know. That's why we got to control straight people. Yeah, so what, where Nuson will come out, and Nuson will say stuff like, you know,

Starting point is 02:01:15 banning of the books, and banning of the books, and banning of the books, and parents say, listen, stop playing politics. Start defending facts, and stop playing politics. So can we, in an area of agreement, agree that maybe all this LGBTQ agenda that you have sell it after 18 years old, not when I'm in third grade, can we agree on that? No, and I'll tell you why. Okay.

Starting point is 02:01:41 So the devil's in the details. So if you say to me, hey, don't let people have irreversible surgery before 18, I agree completely. Okay. So the devil's in the details. So if you say to me, hey, don't let people have irreversible surgery before 18, I agree completely. Okay. So check, we're on that on the same page. So what Trump is about to do 50 states, he said, he's not going to allow for that surgery to take place or just surgery though. Just surgeries where you are. Okay. Let's see where you go. Okay. Go forward. So, um, but if you say, hey, they're coming after the kids, that's the oldest line of attack against gay people in the history of the world. They're coming after your kids,

Starting point is 02:02:09 they're coming after your kids. We look at the example you give. How do you give a blowjob, right? That doesn't say gay or straight. That's why I joke and I said, oh, we got to get straight people under control, right? Because straight people get tons and tons of blowjobs. And that's part of the reason why they put it into some and it's misguided to put it into some of those sex education classes Right does anybody go we got to get straight people under control look at them teaching blow jobs god damn straight people No, because they don't want to demonize straight people. They want to demonize LGBTQ people That's why they connect LGBTQ people with children now when you say hey groomers and pedophiles etc Well straight people do it more. Why aren't we talking about straight people?

Starting point is 02:02:44 There are way more straight pedophiles, et cetera, well, straight people do it more. Why aren't we talking about straight people? There are way more straight pedophiles. There are way more straight groomers. And by the way, tons of Republicans, a new one gets revealed every single week, right? So but we don't have that conversation. Instead, we focus like a laser beam on the LGBTQ community because honestly, the point is to spread hate against the LGBTQ community. If you say to me something has gone out of bounds, okay, let's have a discussion about it, right? I think surgery under 18 is out of bounds.

Starting point is 02:03:09 By the way, this is why I'm called a transport by some people in the radical level. That's a shit, yeah. Yeah, and because I say, look, there are some certain things that are out of bounds. I like one of the things I disagree with, I don't think, I think the leagues, the professional leagues should make their own decisions

Starting point is 02:03:21 about whether they let trans people compete in their leagues or not. And they say, no, people say, oh, with hormones, dude, you give shack all the hormones in the world, right? He's going to destroy the WNBA and people get super mad when I say that. But no one agrees with you. I love your brothers and sisters and they're part of my network. But you shack is going to dominate.

Starting point is 02:03:42 You could put every hormone in the world. Men's bodies are structured differently. They maintain mass better. They have a different bone structure. These are facts. So if you're talking about biology, I agree. If you're talking about targeting LGBTQ people overall and kids, no, I don't agree.

Starting point is 02:03:59 What about puberty, bro? Lockers. Puberty blockers is a super tough one. So right now, a lot of people say that it's, it's, it's okay. I'm not positive that the science has settled, but for me, I would leave up to the families and the parents that decide, like Republicans say, oh, you know, we're really trying to protect parent rights when we ban these books, et cetera. Then you go, okay, parent rights on hormones therapy.

Starting point is 02:04:22 I don't know their kids. I don't know their situation. And I, and I, I'm not sure I know the science any better than the parents do. I'll let the parents make the decision. And then the right says, no, god damn parents are not allowed to make the decision. I'm gonna make the government is gonna make the decision for them. I don't agree. Would you say this is the number one culture war in America right now? It is, and I'll tell you why, because the right wing picked it, because they think, okay, and they tried different things. They said, or Trump tried to ban transgender people from the military, turned out it wasn't popular.

Starting point is 02:04:51 He tried to ban transgender people from bathrooms and stuff, and that didn't turn out to be popular. They dug and dug and dug under. They got to transports and so-called groomers. That's when the country goes, okay, that's too much. And by the way, one part of the reason I'm calling our mainstream progressives is because a lot of the leftists fell right into that trap. And that's the only thing they talk about.

Starting point is 02:05:12 They stop talking about Pete family leaving higher minimum wage. And all they're talking about is we got to get trans people into the WNB. No, that's not the biggest issue in America. So you're saying this is a cultural word that Republicans brought? I don't know. Yes, 100% national education association. Any is the largest union in America. They got three plus million members.

Starting point is 02:05:31 They've been around since 1850s. It's a lot, I don't know what the years, but they've been on for a long time. Now recommends that teachers include the controversial book, Gender Query or Memo, or by Maya, Co-baby on summer reading list. Can you go a little lower if you look at some of the pictures in there, zoom in a little bit more to show these pictures. What they're doing, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, how to give a blowjob, how to do this.

Starting point is 02:05:58 Keep going, 11 years old, 12 years old, boys and boys. Yeah, bro, that's very weird. For you, by the way, for you, for you, none of a hang on one second. For you to ask me to be reasonable on the 12 weeks with 74% Republican for mothers, 12 weeks, and to sit there and say, no, you're being ludicrous with this

Starting point is 02:06:23 because we shouldn't ban bone books like this and we should this be available to them yet, but ask us for this. Now you sound like a dictator and you don't see the most common argument that parents are having today. Okay, so think about it this way. You know, state of California, since 1851, they've crushed it. I lived in California 24 years, minus my three years in the Army, 20, half years in the Army.

Starting point is 02:06:46 I lived in Grenada Hills. I went to Glendale High School. I'm a class of 96. I lived in Porto Ranch, Woodland Hills, Northridge, earthquake. I was there 94 on base it off of Van Nijs down the street from Caesars, Pizza, you know, the DMV and the earthquake was like a minute long.

Starting point is 02:07:03 I mean, I'm in through all of that. I lived in LA, had a great time, you know, did my thing in an I joined the army First time they lost people leaving was a couple years ago and they continue losing and they're saying this is gonna stick around to 2060 okay Where it's not gonna have the kind of growth that they're having now whether it's gonna be 2060 I don't think it's gonna be 2060 because you know when it comes onto that things comes onto that, things change fairly. It takes a few years to change, but they change. When you, when you talk to people who are leaving, I think most people will stay if taxes are higher. I don't think that's why people leave. You know that.

Starting point is 02:07:36 They'll stay in New York. They'll stand like me. You know what? Screw the taxes. But you know what? I'll make more fine. Right? Cool. I'll make more. And then you're like, you know, well, let me tell you what, look what they're doing here with this. It's a liberal policy. Zampapapa, whatever. Hey, we're going to start teaching this in schools. No, bro, where you just crossed the line with me. You don't get to dictate that with my kids. I'm not good with that. You're forcing down my, the throw to my kids. Now I have to leave. Now you go to net negative, which if anybody

Starting point is 02:08:05 ran against Newsom, that's all they have to talk about. While you were there, you're the first governor ever where people left your state. They left you. He can say, well, it's the fifth biggest economy in the world. That's not because of what you did. That's because of what people did prior to you being a governor, not because of your doing, because of the people that came before you. While you were here, you lost people, and they went to other places,

Starting point is 02:08:26 because you started to try to indoctrinate their kids. That's cross in the line. So if you say Pat, let's kind of find an equal, like one of the things you said about COVID, you know what, now that I'm seeing it, I chose to do it, but I don't think it's this. Okay, fine, we had like a, you know, area where you sounded reasonable, I sounded reasonable, great.

Starting point is 02:08:42 You know, hey, parents, this, no problem. By the way, just so you know, I just texted both my HR people while you're asking me both the companies to ask and what's our thing because my president that I promoted my insurance company, she's a female. She's got two kids while she's been with me for 13 years. So we've gone through the process with them.

Starting point is 02:08:55 We're checking to see what the protocols are. We're a fair company, company bought our company. You know what the conversation was about after they bought it. They said your Benefits are too rich. We're gonna have to bring it down a little bit before the end of the year So no problem our benefits have always been above what others offer no problem our minimum wages 15 bucks And are we don't have an issue with it? That's always been the case for many years So but in this area

Starting point is 02:09:21 Brother if you look at this area and say I don't think that's a big deal You don't lose a's a big deal, you're gonna lose a lot of people from both sides. But that's why I'm saying that is a needle. And if you show me that needle and that's got oral sex and it's going to any grade in high school, I agree with you. That needle should be taken out of the haystack. Okay.

Starting point is 02:09:39 But would you fight that fight? Would you get behind that fight? Yeah, if you said so, if you show me this exact book, I'll send you all the books. Right. And so if you show me a book like, but at the same time, Pat, let me ask you this. Yeah. Now they're taking out a tons of books that don't have anything to do with anything that I, that I'm talking about sex, but they're talking about gay people existing. Well, they took out one book that was two penguins that aren't even gay and they're not

Starting point is 02:10:02 even human. They're goddamn penguins that took care of a baby and they're like, ah, it looks a little gay and they took it out. I mean, come on. And then you tell me you're not against gay people. I don't follow penguins. I don't know which penguin story. Yeah, but you see what I'm doing, Pat, I'm finding a needle. You're finding a needle.

Starting point is 02:10:16 No, no, no, no. So, this is not a needle, bro. This is not a needle. The penguin thing. I don't subscribe to penguinology or whatever that magazine is. I'll look it up. I'll take a look to see what it is and I'll give my own opinion on that. That's not where I'm going with this.

Starting point is 02:10:27 This is no longer a needle, bro. This is a national. This is riots protesting happening. It is. It actually is. No. In many different things. It's driving hatred, Pat. It is. The point is your right and it started from the left.

Starting point is 02:10:40 It's what they're not doing. No, it's a division started by the left. Nobody, you didn't have to put that magazine in there. Pat, look, I'm doing a rebellion against the portion of the left is what they're not. No, it's a division started by the left. Nobody, you didn't have to put that magazine in there. Pat, look, I'm doing a rebellion against the portion of the left that goes too far. And now that portion thinks I'm a right-winger, they thought I was going to come on here and declare that I was a Republican. Does it sound like I'm a Republican? Okay.

Starting point is 02:10:59 They thought, and a whole bunch of people think I'm a star like that. Does it sound like that? No, but. It sounds like a Democratic capitalist. Exactly. Okay. So, but a democratic capitalist. Exactly. Okay. So, but Pat, so if you say, hey, these folks are going too far when they're saying that surgery should be okay.

Starting point is 02:11:13 And by the way, the real problem in California was crime. That's why people were leaving. If you want to talk about how people went too far, the left went too far on crime, we're having a real conversation. But in terms of LGBTQ folks, no, look, I have a guy I ran into at a business conference that lives down in Miami. Okay.

Starting point is 02:11:30 And he said, my kid and I took a picture where you had it in the, they asked for a yearbook, right? Yeah. And then we had the pride flag in the back, just quiz it only, because I'm gay, right? And we happened to have one in the back.

Starting point is 02:11:41 They took it out of the yearbook because you can't talk about gay people and because the teachers are worried, they're gonna get sued and they're gonna go get bankrupt, right? And so, and then his daughter wrote a story about how their summer vacation and what they did, and it's she mentioned that her dad was gay because talking about his partner.

Starting point is 02:12:00 They're like, don't write that story, you're not allowed to write that story. Pat, it's too much. It's too much. It's too much. It's too much, brother. Bill Mar, Bill in high school. How many kids were gay when you went to school? You're not about the same age.

Starting point is 02:12:11 How many kids were gay in high school? Be honest. I'm not telling you, Joey was gay. I'm saying like, you know what you and I know about. How many kids were gay in high school that were out? That were out?

Starting point is 02:12:21 Well, you know, it was terrible to come out back. Then maybe one, maybe two. But me too, right? And then later on, they came out and they're like, okay, cool bro, it's totally fine. But it wasn't, it was terrible to come out back then and maybe one maybe two but me too right and then later on They came out and like okay cool, bro. It's totally fine But it wasn't like it was in your face Traditionalist 0.8% are gay they don't give a shit about what you and I think But they're 0.8% gay boomers. It's like two three percent then you go gen now jenzese 21% gay

Starting point is 02:12:40 You cannot even Bill Mark talked about this and Bill Mark is not going to vote Republican. I'm going to tell you something, no one else says. Go ahead. Yeah. So, do you get divided into these two camps, which I don't think are right. So, why are more people gay now, you know, or coming out as gay? Does culture matter?

Starting point is 02:12:58 Yes, it does. And so, does the culture make them gay? No. What it does is it gives them permission. And it turns out the 21% would have been gay bisexual, something along the spectrum. And they didn't have permission. Are you telling me that we had had permission before?

Starting point is 02:13:13 You knew how it was when we grew up? They did not have permission. They did not have permission. Okay, they were when we were on to it. They said are finally coming out. No, it's also okay. So what religion are you wearing Muslim? What do you know?

Starting point is 02:13:24 Atheists. How you're an atheist? Who persuade you to become an atheist? You didn't do it independently. I'll tell you who I persuaded me. I read the Quran in the Bible and then I became an atheist. You read those book and you did any influence of the Hitchens? Did any influence of anybody else, any other books, nothing? No, I just read the Quran on the Bible. Obviously not correct. Those are not me. I'm going to go be an atheist. That was your way. Okay. How many people you think become Christians because somebody baptized them and persuaded

Starting point is 02:13:49 them? Almost all of them. Okay. Same thing with gay. It's a religion. Being gay is a religion. Of course it is. So LGBTQ has become a religion.

Starting point is 02:13:57 Okay. So I got eight more minutes. What I want to do is I want to go into a couple other issues before we wrap up. Fair with this one. What I will tell you on the mother side, why I like what direction you're going with that. I'll give you my feedback on that. Anything to support increasing the number of babies we're having in America, in a climate where mom and dad are existent, I'm for that.

Starting point is 02:14:23 Any entitlement program that encourages mothers to have babies without a father being in the picture, I am not for that entitlement program. There should be no incentives to incentivize somebody to get 500 bucks a month from the government to have more kids. If any of those types of programs I don't support it. I support your marriage, you have two kids, guess what?

Starting point is 02:14:42 Let's keep recognizing people that are married with two or three kids. If this is us, I'm not gonna go 83%, and we say, well, 83 months, 83 weeks at these different places, we're not trying to be those countries, they're trying to be us. We're not competing with those guys. Hey, look with these guys, I don't care what the other guys do.

Starting point is 02:14:56 I'm like, you know, in my family, my kids will come and say, you know, Joey has a phone at six years old. I don't give a shit. I don't care if we're kid at four years old, God of all, you ain't getting a phone in my family. To my standard, isn't to try to be Europe. Europe is trying to be us and they fail. We have proven that the American system

Starting point is 02:15:12 is the best system in the world, based on many different metrics. We can talk about involvement and wars and all that. That stuff set that stuff aside. That's the military industrial complex. But why are you here? As an immigrant, why am I here? Why am I middle? Because it's the best system?

Starting point is 02:15:26 Let me go to the last part before we wrap up because we haven't talked about this at all and We can maybe folks what we may do the next time is Maybe we'll do a live event next time with me you and we'll invite somebody Would you ever do something with Alex Jones or no? Would you ever be the same room with Alex? No, not at all. What if I moderate this to three of us? I think I's a lunatic. What am I gonna have a reasonable conversation with him?

Starting point is 02:15:50 You're like entertainment. I think it'll be, I think it'll be, I want to ever entertain a three hour with him. I went on a show about a decade ago and I went all the way down the rabbit hole. And I kept asking him questions, okay, Alex, what happens, thanks? What happens, thanks?

Starting point is 02:16:02 Well, after all your conspiracies. And at the end, he's like, oh, the people who control the world are gonna kill 90% of us. Let me be the mediator. Would you do it if I did it? Would you do it? Look, I'm willing to do a lot of podcasts going forward, right?

Starting point is 02:16:13 And I'm willing to do a lot of media. Would you do it Alex? I'd have to think about it because he's a lunatic. Can you think about it? And let me know, because some of the other sites that you're a lunatic. So to me, I like talking to both of you guys. So for me, I don't have a prompt talking to either one of you.

Starting point is 02:16:24 You guys, what if I'm a lunatic? but he's not in the fact-based world. Like he's going to say, I'm going to say things that are based on facts and he's going to say that both the wrong guys, I mean, totally get it. But a part of it is entertainment, a part of it, I think the audience would like to see it. And if you're better at arguing, you're pretty good debater. Maybe you and the argument and you're going to like, maybe, of course, I'm going to argue, that's not the question. So then what you're saying and you're gonna like maybe of course I'm gonna win the argument. That's not the question. So then what you're saying is you'll think about it, you'll let me know if you're open to the idea or not.

Starting point is 02:16:50 Maybe the next one we do will do live audience, 200 people in the cigar lounge, we'll do that the other place. But I wanna wrap it up with this. I wanna wrap it up with this. I knew 200 half hours wasn't gonna be. By the way, just so you know, we never start at 8.30. We never do. We started at 8.30 because I knew we needed more time with you.

Starting point is 02:17:03 And I got a weekly 11 o'clock Zoom on Tuesday, which screws me up on Thursdays. I don't have one. Can you do me a favor, play the two clips? Because it is a current event that we have to react to. Tico, can you let the guys not want to be late a couple minutes here? So Devon Archer, okay? With the stories that came out, let me just read the Devon Archer story. Pa-pa-pa-pa-pa. Okay, here we go. Let me just read the story page four. We'll get a quick reaction on this. Archer says Joe Biden spoke with hundreds of business partners 20 times. Hunter Biden's business partner Devon Archer testified that Joe Biden had more than 20 phone calls with hundreds of business partners

Starting point is 02:17:38 raising concerns about the former vice presidents involvement in the Suns overseas deals with raked in millions from countries like China and Romania, Democrats argued that the phone calls were innocent and did not involve business matters. Representative Dan Goldman stated that they were niceties, I'd even pronounce that, niceties. Niceties, niceties. Niceties, nice. Such as the weather, the most at ease.

Starting point is 02:17:58 Niceties, such as the weather. On the contrary, Republicans view Archers testimony as damning evidence of Biden's being in the actual business of Info and Spedaling representative. Marjorie Taylor Greene emphasized that the 20 phone call conversations are directly related to business deals, not mere casual conversations. If you can play this clip, I'll get your reaction. Go for it. So to confirm, you're saying that the speaker phone conversations, they don't seem concerning

Starting point is 02:18:22 to you because there is no specific stuff about business. It just seemed like there popular. It was clear that it was part of the daily conversations that Hunter Biden had with his father and it was and and sound is like most of the time. Now President Biden didn't even know who the people he was at dinner. He was just asked to say hello and he would talk about the way he described it several times. They asked over and over and over. He described what the weather was, what's going on on your end.

Starting point is 02:18:58 The witness was very, very consistent that none of those conversations ever had to do with any business dealings or transactions they were purely what he called casual conversation. So you're probably following this close story what do you think is going on yours anything gonna happen? Okay so is Hunter Biden a crook? Generally speaking yes. Okay so first of all he's apparently a Ukrainian gas expert and one of the best artists in the country. Okay, so first of all, he's apparently a Ukrainian gas expert and one of the best artists in the country. Okay, now, are people paying him

Starting point is 02:19:30 because his last name is Biden? Of course, of course you'd be a nut to say that that's not the case, right? So that's not the question to me because I don't give a goddamn about Hunter Biden. The question is, did Joe Biden do anything wrong? And so the $5 million thing totally made up, they got no evidence, the guy comes in, goes, wrong? And so the $5 million thing, totally made up. They got no evidence, the guy comes in, goes,

Starting point is 02:19:47 nope, there's no $5 million payment. And that original document was somebody saying, secondhand, I heard somebody else say, I don't even believe it, right? So, okay, so that's not true. So then, by the way, when they got his famous laptop and they finally looked at it, there's messages in there.

Starting point is 02:20:03 We did the story on Young outter, where he says, look, don't promise that a dad can do anything because he won't. It's actually a sculptor, but right wing media never talks about that part of the laptop, okay? So in this case, the 20 calls, Biden calls all of his kids and all of his grandkids every day or something like that. And by the way, I think he overdoses it.

Starting point is 02:20:21 Okay, I got it, Keith from Scranton, I got it, okay? Oh, you're a family man, except he wasn't calling his seventh grandchild. Anyways, so is Hunter Biden doing a cheesy thing where I wear in a business call? Hey, look, this is my dad, Joe Biden. And they talk about the weather and go see see. I know Joe Biden. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what he's doing is a cheesy, super cheesy, potentially illegal maybe, right? But is Joe Biden helping him? There's been zero evidence that Joe Biden helped him. In fact, on the laptop, it says, pop won't help us. Right, so don't promise it.

Starting point is 02:20:52 The old speaker phone deal. Hey, vice president, did you see the text exchange between the two? Vinnie, were you following this closely? I was just following, listen, just watching this whole thing and I hate to go back to, if can you imagine if Trump was doing this, this is just showing. Oh, I can't.

Starting point is 02:21:08 He did. He's just, but if you think about it, now we have bank records, why are transfers, text messages, emails, the hunter, Devon Archer, who testified that the brand, the big guy and the chairman is his father, credible whistleblowers, that spend hours talking about extortion, trees, and bribery, everythingbery everything right the recorded phone call

Starting point is 02:21:26 With Joe Biden and poor shanko and that video that we saw for years of I had bright bragging firing Victor Shokin and now we wonder why now now you wonder why that impeachment They impeach Trump about barisma. That's all Trump was saying investigate about this what's happening right now And they impeached him for it. Guys, look, if you had evidence against Joe Biden, I, I look, I mean, I know, I know, I know, I know hold on. Let me explain. If you had evidence, I'd be thrilled.

Starting point is 02:21:54 I think Joe Biden's going to lose and I, and I, and I think he's way too conservative. I think he lies all the time. I'd rather have him out. Okay. That's my political leaning. But besides that, if you just showed me evidence and I love the guy, I'd still say yes. But look at all the text messages and none of them do they ever say Joe Biden is going to do this. They never say it because he never did it. If you bring the evidence of that, I'll switch in a second. And then people are like,

Starting point is 02:22:18 oh, are you turning Republican? No, I just care about facts, right? And so by the way, you said, imagine Trump did it. Are you kidding me? Trump leaves office. Remember they let Mohammed bin Salman chop up a guy, right? And then Jared Kushner gets a $2 billion deal. A $2 billion deal, okay? And then Trump gets millions of dollars

Starting point is 02:22:39 from the live golf tournament, also from the Saudis. And we're not having that conversation. By the way, the Democrats suck at this. If I was the Democrats, I'd be like, you're doing a hearing on impeachment twice. They're great. They've invited them. 50 60 times. I mean, it's like non-stop. I look, I think they're super soft and they only do it to Trump. They love other Republicans. They love establishment.

Starting point is 02:22:59 Again, they don't like anti-establishment. Yeah, let's just get like to Trump to go out. But if I was the Democrat and you did a Hunter Biden here, I'd go to the Senate and do a Jared Kushner hearing. I'd say, where's the $2 billion? How much money are you going to make from the $2 billion? What did you do? Show me your track record. Because Jared Kushner has a terrible track record in business. He, one of the worst real estate deals in American history, 666 Fifth Avenue. He's a total miserable failure in business. Show me how you got that $2 billion from the Saudis. Let's have a conversation about real problems in America.

Starting point is 02:23:30 And by the way, that doesn't foreclose. You having legitimate questions about Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden definitely did all those things, right? And if you show me evidence on Joe, okay, but right now you don't have it. You don't have it. In fact, the Comer and Jim Jordan came out and talked to Hannity right after the hearings.

Starting point is 02:23:46 And Comer's like, I mean, we hope it could be something. I mean, where there's smoke, there's fire. No dude, you created the smoke. So there's plenty of fire and hunter button, but there isn't any on Joe. Yeah, I mean, look, a couple of things that makes me think, again, naturally skeptical. I haven't seen anything until you got something, do it.

Starting point is 02:24:06 Same with, or the election, same with this. I watched the 2000 meals. I'm like, that's interesting. Some of the stuff, okay, fine, but you got to go carry Lake Arizona. I followed that to see what she was going to be doing. And how it's going to be, she sounds very convincing. But again, you got to win court. Well, you don't understand. They're not even letting us do this. The fact that he comes out and they say, they're trying to impeach me because I have lowered inflation. It's a very weird thing to say, right? When you see some stupid like that, right?

Starting point is 02:24:31 And then they try to pull a fast one where one of the guys called acting like a Republican. That's a shady deal in your doing. Well, that's gonna be more on 100 than it is on Joe. Still not on Joe. Okay, fine. Then you're asking for immunity. The judge comes out and says,

Starting point is 02:24:43 no, we're not gonna give you immunity. What are you doing here? So there's way too many things going on. It's early to tell. If they do pull it off and something is shown that is linked to it, this may also be the fastest way for Newsom and these other guys to get them by the way. I saw something weird yesterday.

Starting point is 02:24:59 I saw an ad with Newsom asking for campaign money. What are you doing asking for campaign money? It was an ad being ran. He's warming up in the bullpen. Yeah, that's kind of what I'm thinking is going on. So maybe the establishment's gonna come together to kind of eliminate this guy. This could be an easy way to eliminate Joe.

Starting point is 02:25:17 Anyways, book, Justice is coming. If you don't mind taking 30 seconds telling the audience about the book, we'll put the link below. Yeah, so you can get the book by the way, you can pre-order at tyt.com slash justice, and that'll show you all the different ways to order. tyt.com slash justice. And so the book is about a number of things, progressives are actually two thirds of the country.

Starting point is 02:25:39 I explain definitively why. But the most important parts are chapter four and chapter five. Chapter four is about how we lost the Democratic Party to lobbyists and corporate interests, and it's not a lot of money. And it's not a lot of money. And it's not a lot of money. And it's not a lot of money. And it's not a lot of money. And it's not a lot of money. And it's not a lot of money. And it's not a lot of money. And it's not a lot of money. And it's not a lot of money.

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Starting point is 02:26:13 And they pretend that the corporate position is the objective position So check it out at TYT.com slash justice Some parts the Republicans will hate and other parts they'll say hey, I love this So check it out when you get a chance. By the way, you can also go to tyt.com slash paid leave to sign the petition on paid leave, go to TYT Discord channel to talk about it. If you're right wing, left wing, wherever you are, so I want people checking those out. And look, TYT you can get anywhere, right?

Starting point is 02:26:40 Just type in TYT on any platform, anywhere on the planet and you'll get us. I was going to see if you dedicated chapter five to Andru Tay, the Matrix. Yeah, I know it sucks that he calls it the Matrix, too. That's just the thing, right? I know, but he's like, he's got a totally twisted view of it. No, I don't agree with the Ashtray. Awesome, Jank, thanks for coming out.

Starting point is 02:26:57 This was great, Gank, a couple of thanks for those. Link's gonna be below Go Purchase's book and read it for yourself. If you agree, great. If you don't, go talk about the fact that you don't agree with them and tweet at them and pose a question about whatever part of the book and put a screenshot of the page you disagree with and let them give his own argument for the book. But when books like this come out, would you agree or disagree with it?

Starting point is 02:27:18 The best thing you can do is purchase, read and support or again, go after it. Now a couple of things. Vault conference coming up in four weeks with Tom Brady, three day events down in Miami for those of you guys that have registered, fantastic, I can't wait to see you guys for those who haven't looking forward to seeing you guys. I think are we still running that,

Starting point is 02:27:38 the guy that he's talking about on the 50% is that what they wanna do today or they just wanna run an ad for the Vault? They just wanna run an ad after this. Run this ad. Gang, we got podcasts. We don't have podcasts Wednesday. We're out of town tomorrow.

Starting point is 02:27:52 Thursday, we're not doing podcasts. We're still out of time to get packed Thursday. Friday. But Friday, I think we got Mayor Suarez here to discuss where he's at. Okay, take care everybody. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Patrick, David here from the Vitamin and PbD podcast. Look, once a year, we host a conference called the Vault Conference. Thank you everybody, bye bye bye. the diplomat resort and Miami, to learn how to scale their business, how to identify their next 5, 10, 15 moves,

Starting point is 02:28:25 who to recruit next, who to go raise their money from how to raise capital, how to property scale, culture, retention, higher fire, all of those things and much more. And we do that over a span of three and a half days. And the reason why it's a very important season to attend a conference like this, the following reason. Today, there's three different types of people.

Starting point is 02:28:43 They're scared, they're those that are content and the obsessed. The scared, they don't want to do anything because they're worried about what's going to happen to the economy. They're going to take a big hit. The content, they're walking on a stainless steel, like this, pretty okay, I don't need to do anything else. And then there's the obsessed because they see a massive opportunity today. So imagine spending three and a half days with three thousand obsessed people that want to grow in a season like this. Imagine how much you can run from just those relationships and networks. So on top of the people that are going to be attending at this event, this probably the best lineup we'll ever have out of all conference.

Starting point is 02:29:12 Tom Brady, 7-10 champion, I'll be interviewing him. He'll be out of all conference. Mike Tyson, Wilgidera, the gentleman who ran the restaurant 11 Madison, New York, that went from a regular restaurant to a one-mission and start, two-mission and start, three-mission and start, and eventually the number one restaurant in the world. He's going to talk about how to treat their customers. So look, if you've not registered, yeah, this is my recommendation to, I never went to conferences when I was coming up by myself.

Starting point is 02:29:35 I always went with a spouse, with a business partner, or running made because I only have a lens on what I see every night afterwards. We would sit there and say, what was your biggest takeaway? So get yourself your spouse, your partner, your running mate registered to come spend three and a half days with us at the diplomat resort in Miami from August 30th to September 2nd. I will see you there. Yn yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw you

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