PBD Podcast - CEO of The Babylon Bee: Seth Dillon | PBD Podcast

Episode Date: January 20, 2022

PBD Podcast Episode 116. In this episode, they talk about Seth Dillon On His Interview With Elon Musk, Who is pushing the envelope in 2022, The top reason people are quitting their jobs, Novak Djokovic, The attempted Censorship of Joe Rogan, DeSantis Feuding With Trump, Attempting to use 14th amendment to keep Trump out of office, and why the Dallas Cowboys suck. Get all official Valuetainment merch here: https://vtmerch.com Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list PBD Podcast discusses current events, trending topics, and politics as they relate to life and business. Stay tuned for new episodes and guest appearances. About the host: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of a financial services firm and the creator of Valuetainment, the #1 YouTube channel for entrepreneurship with more than 3 million subscribers. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a keynote speaker.   Bet-David is passionate about shaping the next generation of leaders by teaching the fundamentals of entrepreneurship and personal development while inspiring people to break free from limiting beliefs to achieve their dreams.  Follow the guests in this episode: Seth Dillion: https://bit.ly/3kphVQC Adam Sosnick: https://bit.ly/2PqllTj Gerard Michaels: https://bit.ly/3fMja9z To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: [e-mail] --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

I The night or it was like 59 60 gentlemen. We're live while we're officially live episode number what what is today because the number There's 16 okay 116 would set the land the CEO of Babylon B. Fake news, you can trust. Good to have you back, buddy. Thanks for having me. Yes. Last time we had John, was more of an interview format. Today will be more podcasts.

Gerard is a big fan of your website. I know Adam is well. And so we're excited to have you back. You had Elon Musk on recently. Yes, you got, how was that for you guys? Insane. I was up until the last minute right before it happened. I had no idea if it was actually going to happen. You know, we were kind of going back and forth with him DMing talking about having him on the podcast.

And he's like, come to Austin and we'll do it. So we showed him with Elon as we were DMing with him. Yeah. On Twitter, he's followed, he's followed like 107 people on Twitter. We're one of them. And so we're able to access his DMs and just one. And just one of our employees just shot him a message out of the dark. It was just like, hey, you like come on our podcast. And we were not prepared. I was on vacation with my family. And he responded and was like, yeah, I come to Austin.

So I left from where we were instead of going home and went straight out there with a clothes on my back and rented a studio to try to make it happen. And so we didn't even know if it was going to happen until the minute he walked in. I like the way you said that. my back and rented a studio to try to make it happen. And so we didn't even know if it was going to happen until the minute he walked in. I like the way you said that. He follows like 107 people, like you didn't know the exact number. The exact number.

Yeah, currently 117. He follows like 100 people. He follows like 117. And you know what, it makes sense for him to be a fan of Babylon B. It makes sense. His personality just makes sense to say, you know what? I like what these guys are doing. So what was your favorite part of the conversation with him?

We went everywhere. I mean, we were talking religion and theology. We were talking the current cultural climate, wokeness. He called it a mind virus. We were getting into that a little bit. Yeah. So he was all over the place, but we were just letting him talk. He talked a lot about some of the stuff that he's digging into right now with his neural ink.

And the satellites he's launching into space for starlink and all this stuff. So I mean, it was a wide-ranging discussion, but it was fun to just kind of have a less serious interview with him, where we could make jokes and see how he responded to those. And he doesn't always laugh at your jokes, which can be a little unsettling and unnerving when you're there cracking jokes. And he's just kind of nodding along, like you just said something serious.

That's a little... It makes it, it makes you talk. Maybe your jokes gotta be funnier, sir. Yeah, they got, I guess they gotta be funnier. He does like our jokes. But yeah, it was a good time. It was a good time. Can you go on Babylon B's website right now?

Let's just go right on Babylon B's website because folks, again, if you haven't followed these guys, they're hilarious for the work they do. Go down to the story with Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton. This is the kind of stuff you guys write, which is go a little lower, little lower, right there. Click on that one right there. So Kamala here is so dislike nation considering Hillary Clinton.

That's just hilarious to me, right? Let's see what else you guys got that's recent, Seth. Which one would you say to pull up? Let's see this one. Historian discovers document from 1776 that removes all mandates and restrictions. If you go to the trending tab, that'll show the ones that are being shared the most recently. Okay, the second one right there, right below the logo.

If you go up, go up, go all the way to the top. Yeah, and click on trending. Yeah, right there. There you go. Let's see what we got. FBI say they still haven't found a motive for 9-11. To save time Biden to ship 500 million free masks directly to Landfill fantastic historians discovered okay. We read that

Omicron vaccine to be made available in March for the 12 people who haven't gotten Omicron yet politicians Bath politician bathful bathfuls nation by doing exactly what he said he was going to do is the Philip Buster racist a handy flow chart. Anyway, just and by the way, this is if you go to put Babylon be best stories ever. I know we did this on the other channel, but we haven't done it here. Just go on Google and type in Babylon be best stories ever. Okay, best stories ever.

Yeah, click on that. There's a what's the one side that's got the best ones on there? No, not here. They'll go back Set you know, which one it is. There's a site that's got your best ever that went viral Here the helllands Babylon be gonna have okay go a little more Okay, right there 10 best. No, it's not that one Anyways, you guys had the one with Trump that said that Trump says he's done more for Christianity than Jesus himself.

Oh yeah. That's right there. I have done more for Christianity than Jesus himself. And then the story comes out that kind of similar thing to what he said. So the whole thing about satire, you said to me last time is writing stories that seem so crazy,

that eventually could come true. Which has happened into some of your stories, guys, right? It eventually could come true. Yeah. Which has happened into some of your stories you guys are right. It happened to that one. Yeah, exactly. Trump went on some radio show where he said that he's done more for religion in general and Christianity in particular than any figure in history. Which is basically what we said that he said.

But we said it a couple of years ago and he just said it. A couple of months ago. With how insane the world is right now, you guys having a tougher time than usual coming up with topics because I feel like it's like how do you get more sarcastic and more insane than what's happening right now? How does it work? I say tougher. I mean, well, we sit there and try to brainstorm every day.

We look at the headlines and what's going on in the news, right? And we start pitching ideas back and forth. We start with the headline, just the joke is in the news, right? And we start pitching ideas back and forth. We start with the headline, just the joke is in the headline, right? And we pitched these headlines and we have to check, like, did this already happen? Did someone already say this? And you have to think to yourself, you know, like, how long is this going to be satire for? Because this is probably coming down the road here as soon as next week or maybe even tomorrow. And we find that happening all the time. So it's funny. We tweet about it all.

We have our editor-in-chief, Kyle Mann, and our managing editor, Joel Berry. They'll tweet that, you know, another Babylon beef prophecy fulfilled. And we document those and share with people. We see them come true. Is that how not the B came about? Is that the idea there?

Or... It is. I mean, well, what we were discovering is, you know, the world is so crazy. The world so absurd, it's almost impossible to be satirized. So, you might as well have like this humor-based entertainment site that just covers all these crazy stories. Because they're very entertaining. The real stories really are wild and entertaining. You can just click on any major news site and find a story that's like, wow, is this headline real? So, we did create the site specifically to cover those things. The things that are so crazy that should be satire but somehow aren't.

So there's a little bit of overlap between the sites. They start out satire on the Babylon being and then they become reality on not to be. Speaking of overlap, have you found that the onion has been subject to the same ridicule that you guys have on social media or? We're subject to ridicule. You tell me. I mean, I went to pull up the battle on being and it asked me if I was going to a dangerous site, so. Oh, did it really? Yeah, we get a little bit of that.

You know, they have been targeted with some criticism. They do get fact checked some, the way that we've been fact checked. I think, look, you see the same kind of bias that play here with comedy that you see in every area of life. It's, you know, the way that we've been fact checked. I think, look, you see the same kind of bias at play here with comedy that you see in every area of life. It's, you know, the mainstream media is really friendly to sources that agree with them. And I think, you know, the onion, as this is one of the topics we discussed in our interview with Elon Musk,

he was talking about the onion and how it's further left than we are right. It's very politically correct, very politically correct. You know, they hit all the jokes from the angle that you would expect them to hit them from. More so today though, it wasn't that way when it first started. They did a lot of speaking truth to power.

I mean, the whole concept of county for people that don't know, I mean, if you're finding yourself agreeing with the establishment as a comedian, you're a bad comedian. You know, the idea of speaking truth to power, people don't know who Lenny Bruce is. Lenny Bruce spent half of his career in jail for refusing to-

For just cursing at that point. Yeah, for looting the city's behavior, talking about sex. And the fifth, yeah. That was very common. And you have to call it at that point. But dude, before I left New York, man, I saw the tides turning and I was like,

man, this is not about being funny, this is about being on message. And then you saw people that were getting, you know, fast track, they're not gonna name names. You can really easily Google them, remember who they are. Their careers were getting fast. They were doing mics at the village of Lander, and next thing, you know, they had Netflix specials

because they were on message. And it was like, this is, they're skipping 10 years here. Well, now you got people like Chappelle who are doing Netflix specials and taking a lot of heat for it because they step outside the bounds of what they're supposed to be joking about, right? And I think that's what comedians should be doing. I think they should be making those jokes

that nobody wants you to make. Yeah. And if you're sent trying your own. No, but he's not, but the highest form of the art, he's right though, the highest form of the art is saying things people don't want to hear in a way they can't stop listening. Well, that's what Steve Harvey had to say.

Was that you? Yeah, yeah. He basically saying, Chappelle is the only person that can do this. Any person out there, other than my, speaking of himself, he was talking about DL Hugley. He's like Aldrin Central, Andrew Dean, Andrew Kevin Hart. Exactly. I will do one more special and that's when I'm done with my career. Because they're all reliant on something.

What's his point with that? Steve, because I'm going to let it fly and then I'm going with that career. Because they're all reliant on the part of it. What's his point with that? Stevie, because I'm gonna let it fly, and then I'm gonna go away. Yeah, I don't know. You can't do it right. You can't still try to do stuff. So he's later on. Yeah, okay.

But his whole point was despite all the success, I've had to spite all the money, to spite all the power, to spite all the fame, I'm beholden to sponsors. Exactly. And that's how I have a subscription with Netflix. Exactly. So Netflix is probably gonna a subscription with Netflix. Exactly. So Netflix is probably going to go

after more comedies. Look at Tim Dylan. Tim Dylan's the guy. Tim Dylan is a guy that we're with. No relation to Seth or what? No relation to Seth. Tim Dylan, you know,

rolling on in a certain way. And he's a fellow. He's open for him. You make yourself uncancellable by insulating him. But at the end of the day, it's the marketplace. Mm-hmm.

You know, if 90,000 people are willing to pay $4.99 a month for Tim Dillon, then all the sponsors can shove. You can say whatever he wants to say. Those people are supporting him. It's one of the ways that we're independent is because we have a subscription platform. People can subscribe to support us. And so we don't have to worry so much about,

and this is the reason we launched it in the first place is because we were getting fact checked on Facebook like crazy, they're rating our jokes false. They're giving our jokes a truth rating yeah and then telling us jokes jokes and telling jokes as they're supposed to be a little uh have you ever gone down truth rate they're funny or they're not they're not true or false have you ever gone down the rabbit hole with who's fact checking you because I got demonetized on Facebook and I went down the rabbit hole and was looking at who fact checked me and you end up looking at it's like some bot out in

In Singapore that has no existence It's it's like this person and it's just an opinion. This person says that you know what you're saying is false I was like it's satire well We found some of them so I'll give you an example when we did a story on how Ruth Bader Ginsburg had oh No, the ninth circuit court had overturned the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. That was the headline, right? And it's kind of a silly absurd headline. Obviously, how do you overturn somebody's death? What does that even mean?

Did they resurrect her from the death? Obviously, it's a joke. USA Today fact checked it rated it false. And if you scroll to the bottom of that fact check, it says it was paid for and part by grants from Facebook. So Facebook paid USA Today to fact check our joke and then sent us a warning saying that we made a joke that was false. So it's kind of a circular thing where they're funding the whole system. Let me ask you. Pat talks about the business

planning workshop. That's where you really came to mind to talk about finding an enemy, finding an enemy and that sort of motivates you to, you know, double down on what you, what you want to accomplish. And, you know, Pat has some enemies that I'm sure he'll talk about, vocally. Do you have enemies that I'm sure he'll talk about, vocally. Do you have enemies that you say, all right, I don't know if it's the onion or if it's the establishment, if it's cancel culture,

who's the Babylon B enemy? Who do you go against? The enemy is anybody who's against free speech. The enemy is anybody who's trying to censor you. The enemy is anybody who's trying to pressure you to censor yourself so that you're not free to say what you think and why you think it. So, you know, anybody, any comedian that censors himself in deference to the power that's trying to get him to censor himself is a joke himself, I think. And so, comedians should

be pushing back on that and making jokes humorous, sadder. So, who is doing it right today? Who's, who's, I mean, obviously you got the shiples, you got the Rogans. Who else would you put in the camp that is pushing the amulet and not holding it back? And who have you seen has made major adjustments and gone and become woke or soft? Any names in the market?

You know, the amount of shadow, man. The amount of shadow and Freud I had watching all of New York City who for 10 years I saw Gradually descend into this nonstop, you know Carrying water for for the state. You know, they just became the this woke hardcore leftist activist sect And then they got shut down and they were like the government, but I'm like, oh The government over each of guys can't go to work?

So give me names, though, like, who do you think? Like, who's, who's give the names of who is pushing back today? I'll tell you, some look, the guy JP Sears, JP Sears has done an unbelievable job. You know, you interviewed JP Sears. Ryan Long is, is there a lot of jokes that are like hilarious, direct, Ryan Long. Bill Mar comments a lot on cancel culture and he's very anti-accel culture. He's more of an old school liberal who believes in freedom.

Believes you, he agrees with the left on almost every issue. The only thing that he doesn't agree with the left on is this kind of authoritarian attempt to silence anybody who disagrees with them, right? So and that applies to a lot of comedians and he's felt a lot of pressure He he faces calls to be canceled all the time for the stuff that he says and mostly what he's saying is Stop cancel culture and then what cancel him for saying that. I'll say I can't stand Trump I can't stand what these guys are doing but

Stop trying to cancel these guys what they have to say because Because even back in the days, if you think about those who were against censorship were representing the left, now it's them who want to censor. It's the most 100%. By the way, there's one of the weirdest dynamics about today's climate is how much hypocrisy there is on both sides. You have hypocrisy today. You have freedom of

speech, you have, you know, my body, my choice only when it matters. You have all of these areas that it goes to, I need to, I need to, I need to give you vaccine passport, but not when it comes out to voting. You go down, you say, wait a minute, this is, this is your core belief system, but you completely opposite from this. So when you go there, you know what typically happens when your philosophy start having contradictions in them, your own side starts saying, you know what, I'm not feeling you no more. I'm just not feeling you no more. This is when you, people think just because you have a fine one,

they're always going to be there. Like, you know, just because you're famous, you're always going to be famous. Just because you know, just because you're famous, you're always going to be famous. Just because, you know, Roger Stone said something one time. He said, here's how fame works. Everybody starts off. The first thing everybody says is, who's Roger Stone? Who that was Roger Stone?

Roger Stone's a guy that can get you elected. Oh, okay. Get me Roger Stone, okay? Phase number two. Get me Roger Stone. He says phase number three is, get somebody like Roger Stone, okay phase number two. Get me Roger Stone. He says phase number three is get somebody like Roger Stone. He says phase number four is who's Roger Stone? Meaning you're eventually forgotten about right? Full circle. Yeah, so the point is the political parties

is they're like celebrities. They're they were famous for a year and a half ago. Liberals were famous a year and a half ago. Meaning you're loved. You're like, oh my gosh, they're right Trump sucks And now they're thinking that was gonna continue and it's not because fame and you know that whole Loyalty if you try to bully the voters voters that you have you can't bully your voters You can't bully your customers. You can't bully the people that were loyal to at one point You have to constantly keep those people. It's a very hard thing to do By the way, something both sides struggle would continuously. You could fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time, man. And I think that, you know, one of the things

that concerns me more than anything else, Pat, is that I agree with you. The hypocrisy is rampant, but there seems to be like people who seem to be like, okay, with it all of a sudden. Who's people, though? I disagree. You disagree? Yeah, I disagree. I don't think it's people. I don't think it's okay. I've seen, and let me just explain, because I've seen the goalposts move with my own friends. Sure. What they will do to maintain some semblance of allegiance to their demagogue.

You know what I'm saying? It's like, well, you know, I mean, look at the thing that we're not allowed to talk about, right? Like, first it was gonna stop you from getting sick. Then it's like, well, it just stops the severity of sickness. And it's like, ah, well, it's gonna stop so we're getting sick. And now, like, the next thing's gonna be like, well, it gives you two points towards having, if you die. It's like, I mean, like, what's this?

So there's always gonna, like, at no point, do any of them go like, wait a minute. This is, you know what? you had a point, man, this is, I should have been asking some more questions. You know, the other day, one of our guys that works for us, one of our executives, his daughter, oldest daughter, goes to school and she comes after school, finished in college four years

and she can't stand that that's philosophies. He says, we had dinner and I'm like, why is my daughter whom I raised so against me? Why does she hate me so much? Because you said to me, I've been like, hey, these red philosophies have so much. And he sat there and he's like, man, I don't know.

And as a parent, this is a fear because you don't want to lose your kids. You love these guys. This is an emotional thing. Parents today fear, because you don't want to lose your kids. You love these guys. This is an emotional thing. Parents today fear, am I one day going to lose my kids? My kids go to school, you guys know where they go to. And the best school in Florida is right across the street. Everybody knows what the best school in Florida is.

But that best school in Florida is not one that's teaching conservative philosophy. So my mind, I'm like, at what age do I consider allowing the kids, because it's under my control till 18, at what age do I consider allowing the kids, because it's under my control to 18, at what age do you want to be comfortable to send them there, that anything can be taught. It's not, they're not praying, they ain't sitting there talking about God, they ain't sitting there talking about certain values and principles, go at it, right? They can teach anything they want to teach your kids. Well, communism is an option, socialism is an option. You can marry whoever you want to be, if that person's a he,

she, whatever, all this stuff is confusing to a young kid that's going through it, right? But here's here's what I'm convinced. Here's what I'm convinced. You're just a go I'm sitting with a guy that's raised great kids deadly big fan a big big mentor my life Raine the biggest church in LA and we're sitting down and I said listen give me tips on parenting and You know he was going through something with his son at the time He said there's three phases parents go through first your kids idolize you Then they demonize you then they humanize you. It's a phase and a phase one parents go through demonizing it sucks

It absolutely sucks because you're like, am I ever gonna get these guys? Because you did something wrong as a parent. Just matter of time before you screw up. It doesn't matter. You're going to screw up as a parent, right? He says then eventually it's humanizing. Okay, so take that philosophy and bring it to capitalism. Okay?

You're a kid. Who do you admire? The lifestyle of the rich and famous. You're like, oh man, one one day did I love to have that life How cool would it be if one day mom? I'm gonna buy you house mom. I'm telling him to buy you house dad I'm gonna buy you that for are you want how many kids I've spoken like that right and then you go to school and the teacher says Rich people are bad all they do is they treat their employees like slaves and this is what they do for their own and they sit home And they got these big bellies and they make their money and their employees are doing the work and they're golfing and the kids are like

These are horrible people. Oh my gosh. I hate rich people mom They're terrible and then they come out of college hating Capitalists and rich people and then they go to school and then they go get a job. And all of a sudden, somebody gets a promotion over them who for whatever reason, it was a better ask you, sir, was closer, was a better friend or whatever, but you're doing harder work and that person gets the promotion over you.

And then you're 28 years old and now you're making $78,000 and you have to pay $13,000 in taxes and you're 28 years old, and now you're making $78,000, and you have to pay $13,000 in taxes, and you're sitting there saying, this shit doesn't make sense. What the hell is this all about? And eventually you say, maybe these capitals are not that bad. So what I'm trying to tell you is,

I think we're about to go through the humanizing phase of people that are creating jobs. I think you're about to go through the humanizing phase to sit down and realize these principles kind of make sense. And eventually that 12% that runs America is gonna figure that and say, you know what, I'm kinda gonna go to freedom,

not going towards control. I think that's what's gonna be taking place. Well, I got a theory on it. I mean, I've thought about this a lot, right? So think about, there's two aspects of it. Who becomes a teacher, who becomes a writer, who becomes a professor? Pretty intelligent people, but they don't make two aspects of it. Who becomes a teacher? Who becomes a writer? Who becomes a professor? Pretty intelligent people.

But they don't make a lot of money. So they become very resentful into the system. Because here I am, I went to school. I went to school after school, and I went to school after school. And I've got all these degrees, and I have all this education, but I'm making 60 grand a year. Meanwhile, the plumber, who while I was studying, was partying on Friday nights, is making 200 grand a year. And he didn't go to you know, who while I was studying was was partying on Friday

nights is making 200 grand a year and he didn't go to college. You know what I mean? This guy, the truck driver's making 150 grand a year. So they're resentful of the system and that because they think they should get paid for who they are not for what they offer. And that's a big thing that that that people mess up. You don't get paid for what you like to do unless you're literally the best in the world at it. Adam, you're very good at basketball, but you're not getting paid for it because you're not one of're literally the best in the world at it. Adam, you're very good at basketball, but you're not getting paid for it because you're not one of literally the best 300 in the world at it, right? So you have to be able to offer services.

You can pave the driveway of one of those guys that makes that kind of money playing basketball and do a real good life for yourself because that guy doesn't want to pave his own driveway. You have to be able to offer value. If you're not the best in the world, it's something you have to be able to offer value to the best in the world. That's number one. Number two, we go to school and we learn all about the victories of government. Think about it.

We learn about how government saved the world in this war. We learned about how government saved. Well, history is written by the winners exactly. Exactly, right? So government's great with the Civil Rights Act. Government is great. Let's not talk about how government implemented slavery. Let's talk about how government stops layer Like you get all the wins of government. So here we are

They're preaching this the the egalitarian system where you know, you're merit based on your education Is what you should get paid on not not the work that you do or your willingness to do work. It's not just how educated you are, smart you are, and look at how great government is. So these kids come out saying, government's great, why wouldn't you want to pay taxes? This is how we do things. And then you grow up into the real world. And this is the whole thing

when my libertarian philosophy, this is almost every libertarian that I know. It's like, dude, just show your work. You want more taxes. Nobody wants to drive on decrepit roads and bad bridges. Show what you do with the money. Because right now, you took three trillion and gave us $1,200. And nothing changed everything got worse.

There's empty shelves. I just went to buy furniture at City, at City, furniture. Nothing is there until the end of March. This is the United States of America. I got nothing to the end of March. This is the United States of America. I got nothing to the end of March. You've got empty shelves, somehow there's Valentine's Day candy, but there's nothing else.

I have no idea how that works. So we gave you guys three trillion. And where's that money? And you want more of it. See, that's the thing that the left never answers for. You always want more. If three trillion couldn't fix it, then six trillion. Your boy Robert Reich, more, more, more. Can you just show your work with what you're doing

now? Can you just at least once prove that the money we gave you was worth something? Yeah. Before you ask for more, I mean, it's insane. I think you can only do that for so long. I don't think you can. That's that philosophy sustainable. And well, let's go on to our main story here. Let's go on to our main story. I want to hear what Seth has to say about this as well. First story we want to get into is a great resignation. Okay, the great resignation. This is a story that everybody is talking about.

A guy tagged me in a pic in a post. I just send it to you, have it ready to bring it up in a minute. Here, I text it to you. So this is a CNBC story. This is the biggest reason people quit. And it's 10 times more important than pay. From the data, cluster review, from the last few years, including before the pandemic in 172 culture, metrics at roughly 600 companies, researchers found toxic work culture to be

the biggest factor that let people to quit and 10 times more important than pay in predicting turnover. Okay, so toxic culture is number one, is what they're saying. This is CNBC story. The most common ways employees describe toxic culture at their company were through a failure to promote diversity, equity, inclusion, workers feeling disrespected, unethical behavior or low integrity, abusive managers and a cutthroat environment where they felt colleagues were actively under mining. So they're describing CNN, okay? So what's significant is that toxic workplace factors

lead to a stronger reaction quitting, more so than other bad work issues. People may grumble about their workplace, being bureaucratic or feeling siloed, but they still don't leave, but signs of toxic work culture are making people walk away. So Tyler, just how to curious, is that the only story you have on the Great Resignation, or is there anything

else on Great Resignation that you have? On there, that's it, but we can pull both things out. It's been the top story on LinkedIn. There's a million stories. So this one guy sends me this, and he says, you never talk about this on the podcast. I said, okay, let's talk about it. So corporations right now, laid off staff in 2020, okay.

Received generous government bailouts, totally agree. A lot of people took the bailouts, shouldn't have taken. They did not need it. A lot of companies didn't need that bailout. We had a board meeting and our board meeting, I brought this up before where they said, you know, we can get roughly $4.5 million. I said, we're not taking them out

because we don't need a restaurant's needed. I'm not taking that $4.5 million. I said, we're not taking a money because we don't need a restaurant's needed. I'm not taking that $4.5 million. Good for you. But guess what? You don't have to pay it back. I said, I'm not taking a penny. My board was upset with me saying every single one of the boards we sit on, they take the money.

You ain't taking the money. I said, I'm not taking the money. Why would I take the money? How hypocritical are my philosophies to take that money and put it into the bank account? But you know what? You're gonna pay for through taxes. That makes you think you better take it

because you're gonna pay through taxes. That's my philosophy. I totally get it. You gotta pay through taxes. I'm like, you know what? I'm good. The restaurant needs it. Those 50 million employees in America

that are directly or indirectly affected by those restaurants that have to shut down, let's kind of help those guys that I'm gonna be okay. Using myths of resignation and labor shortage to understaff. Okay. I have no idea what you mean by that, but okay. This is a liberal Facebook fan page, just so you know, so I'm showing what they put. Shovel work on people that don't have a better option.

Okay. That's absolutely ludicrous. Let me explain to you why. People have more options today than ever before. I'm going to show you something from an economist I heard last week in Vegas that it's gonna blow you away and it's not gonna be a good look for a certain president and it's not who you think it is when I go through it. Shovel work on people.

You know what the challenge is today? The challenge today is here's how it works. You hire somebody. You give them $45,000. They've never made $45,000. You hire somebody. You give them $55,000. But they have a now new title. you give him forty five thousand dollars they've never made forty five thousand dollars you are somebody give fifty five thousand dollars but they have a now new title

city gone linden and they change a title to such and such title the recruiting from calls and saying hey your ex-wise yet this company yes will offer you seventy thousand dollars with this other company and they'll give you five thousand dollar bonus the guy has one month of experience and that job so guess what he says he comes back to the boss that job. So guess what he says? He comes back to the boss

They gave him the job and he says hey, I love this place But let me just tell you what off ride just got if you give me the $70,000 and a $5,000 bonus We can we can keep you here that boss is staying there and saying what? What do you want me to do? I need this guy, but you're not worth this dollar amount. So then he says, then he says, Dude, I can't afford to pay you, man. That kind of money. But maybe we can bump you to 60.

Let me see what I can do. I'm sorry, I gotta take this job. He takes that job at 70,000. With the $5,000 signing bonus, a month later, the same recruiter calls him. Calls another company. Says this other company wants to pay you $82,000 with a $7,000 bonus.

This guy is underqualified. He says, hey man, you know, I'm so sorry, bro, but you know, I love this place, but you know, we can't be, you ain't word, 82,000, no, 27,000. I gotta go take the shot. He takes that job. Do you know, I know a guy that went through the cycle

four times by the same recruiter getting, until he got to six biggest because a company was willing to pay for it so that for one right there is a is a bunch of a gibberish yeah but you can't blame that guy for taking the money this is free no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no overpaid because they had a big breakout season or they did well in the playoffs and next thing you know they were a two million dollar guy and how they're getting a you know fifty million dollar five-year contract where you're gonna say well I'm not really a I'm not sitting you're gonna take them on I'm not sitting here and telling you anything first of all that guy's not a loyal to guy his loyal to use to money go get your money do what you guys people are that's that's not true but fine no problem I say that company their comp structure needs a better adjustment meaning if you want to get people to stick around with you

Maybe give them equity, maybe give them long term incentives that they can participate in Maybe you got to make certain adjustments there. I don't disagree there But all I'm telling you is people are you say most people are driven by money. Okay, so let me ask you question I'm not saying most people I'm not saying most people wait and I say this thing. Yes, I you said you're making 45 55 and all of a sudden someone's giving you 100, and you're actually thinking they're gonna maybe not, they're taking the 100. You can realize, but do you realize what you're setting as your reputation on your resume?

Let me explain to you. So you're thinking about getting married one day, no? Yes. Okay, are you the richest guy in the world? No, without Elon Musk. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So that means every girl should leave their husbands and go with Elon Musk, so let's just say you get married to your wife. Elon Musk does dominates. Let's just say you get married to your girl. Drop that gorgeous girl. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, wink, you come with me, I'll get you an S500 and I'll get you this house if you leave me.

So now, hey, you should take your money and go to the next guy. And as she gets another guy, is that the like, do we go like, Well, the difference is you can only marry one person at a time, you've got to job the job the job the job. But the point is that is your Mormon. That is not a good look on your resume

to show you have four jobs. Like when people come through with you on that, you can't just go from job to job the job the job. But that's what it means. But if you keep getting more bonuses. That's what it means. That's what it means. That's what it means.

That's what it means. That's what it means. That's what it means. That's what it means. That's what it means. That's what it means. That's what it means. That's what it means.

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That's what it means. That's what it means. That's what it promotion to COO, I have to pay you what the market is for the COO. If I give you promotion to any promotion, I have to pay you what the market tells me. You go on salary.com and salary.com says what? The position for a director of digital media in Fort Glouderdale is the low 78,000, high 150, medium, one oath, whatever it's going to tell me. Oh shit, dude. So what do we get? Am get am I gonna get this or not I have to work it because you're in favor if you deliver that guy who changes position four times the companies eventually gonna realize this guy's clueless and it's gonna

get fire four months later so then he has to go back and explain to somebody else why he got far and it's got to make an excuse well you know it was because of equity and because it's a toxic, toxic environment. And it was just a terrible place to have that. I got to tell you, Pat, I've been in places where that guy is terrible and doesn't get fired specifically because he got hired. And that's worse for the company

because that company doesn't have leadership and they're desperate. Let me do the last one and I'll open it up. I want to hear you guys' thoughts. Use the myth of inflation to raise prices, folks. That's not myth. The myth. That's called math.

Do me a favor, go to one of the slides that this chief economist, JD, go up five slides. And by the way, keep going up, keep going up, keep going up. I think that's the one, no, not that one. Go on more. Yeah, that one right there. Okay, can you make that bigger so everybody can see that.

And David, can you put that on the screen so everyone can see it? Are we going back to that last slide, by the way? Because the guy only got the one top thing, right? Or the second thing, and then the last three, we're just absolute garbage. Yeah, but if the media keeps saying toxic, toxic, toxic, toxic, toxic, toxic, here's what's going on.

The company's inflation, blah, blah, blah, blah. They're just bullshitting, using inflation to raise prices. Here's what's going on with energy inflation. Make it a little bit bigger so they can see that. Can you make that even bigger? Go bigger, bigger, bigger, so people can see the years on the bottom. Okay, so that shows what energy inflation happened this year look at that spike the last time it's been this high was Jimmy Carter era

That's not a joke energy inflation Yeah, okay, no, no, it's not seven percent. It's not seven percent. Oh, yeah, I see what you're saying Mr. Satire I see what you're saying. I'm not missing the satire. I'm by Groove's. Fake news, I'm fake news. It's a satire because it's so let's keep up. Let me catch up to you guys.

I'm a little bit behind. I'll catch up, give me a couple minutes. Automobile inflation. Look at that. Highest in how many years? Look, even Carter was 28%. Dude, that's 35%. Dude, what are you talking about?

Who's saying that it's a myth though you know, but he in their right mind believe it and play it as a myth right now Jen Sackie said that these companies are using inflation to raise prices and that's greedy they're being greedy right she the I want to starbox the other day I tell Jen they place an order for me for whatever this thing that you order for me

I don't even know what it's called. She knows what it's called. So a fog, something fog, I don't know what it's called. Anyways, it's sick. So I get this tea and she says, babe, I call it everywhere. All the Starbucks that I go order when I come back from the gym with E, she says they don't have the product. What are you talking about? So I go over there. So I look at the girl that the cashier, I said, hey, can I get this one? We don't have that. Can I get this one? We don't have that. Can I get this one? We don't have that. What do you have? So she says, honestly, I don't.

I said, just put something in there. Let me go talk to the girl at the front. I go to the front. The guy's a die-hard podcast fan. Die-hard. Like the entire time, we will let me go because he followed podcast. He says, Pat, we don't have 80% of our products to sell. I said, what are you talking about?

He said, we don't have syrup. We don't have this. I can't sell you this thing. I said, just make me whatever. So let me see what I can do. Guy goes to the back to make me something. That's not on the, what do you call it? On the menu and he comes back. Oh, yeah, they're raising prices. There's shortage of products. If only there was like, I got 100 years of evidence of central planning failing. Yeah. Like, if only, anyways, I mean, the point is, the point is that this article by CNBC,

the average person reads this article, what did they say? You know, here's how it goes. Okay, you know the guy that first put the 18 year old girl who doesn't have game, and the guy is 29 years old, the experience and he sees it's 18 year old girl that's dating the guy that they're together

or like 20 year old girl and he says, let me ask you a question. Does your boyfriend, all he care about is working out, doesn't he? Yeah, he spends more time at the gym than you. Yeah, let me guess. He's that good looking guy that only washes his car and plays video against and hangs out at his boys and he doesn't give you the attention you deserve. Yeah, if you were my girl for morning till night, you'd be my focus. I give all my attention to you And I think you need to be treated that way I'm a little uncomfortable being between us

I will give all my attention to you The point is you write something like this someone's gonna say my job doesn't promote diversity Doesn't promote equity doesn't promote it is doesn't promote equity, doesn't promote, it is a, it is not. It's a resentment, it's all resentment. So, you know, when people say that their workplace is toxic and they're listing these reasons, I'm thinking to myself, you know,

what they're saying is, my boss makes more than me. This is a toxic environment. Like, you know, there's not enough, there's not equity. Equity is like, is like having the same outcome. You know, if you're expecting in the workplace that someone who works harder than you is should have the same outcome as you, otherwise it's toxic, then you don't understand the workplace. You don't understand a meritocracy, right?

I mean, it's all, it all comes down to envy and resentment. It comes down to wanting what other people have, what other people are willing to work for, that you're not willing to work for. And otherwise, and if you don't have it, then you feel abused. I mean, it's like this childish immature resentful attitude that people are bringing into the workplace. When I heard toxic, I was thinking something very different. I was thinking it would be something where there's like, it's like this bros world

where the guys are like, you know, the patriarchy's in charge and there's like sexual harassment. Like, overhand. Yeah, I wasn't thinking diversity, because I think it was like a wolf of Wall Street. What was going on over that? Exactly, wolf of Wall Street, you know, all that kind of stuff,

but I wasn't thinking diversity and equity and all of that. Hard to tell who the two business owners on the panel are. But the, look, I've been in toxic workplace environments and I think what Pat said before is really, really interesting because it's the amount of options that you have. And you made a correlation between this and relationships. It's the same thing.

Like before Tinder, before Bumble, you had incentive to work things out with your girl and then maybe you get through that, you get through your early hurdles in a relationship and it turns into a long term thing. But now it's like screw this, swipe right, swipe right, swipe right, find somebody, no it's the same thing. You know, I told you about the encounter I had

with the overzealous sales manager, you know, where I almost caught a felony. That's the toxic workplace environment. Now at the time Uber didn't exist, lift didn't exist. You know, now they do. You know what I, and during the pandemic, I went from two national tours getting canceled to having to do construction and Lyft. And you know what, it wasn't bad, man. You can make like, you can make 40, 50 grand a year if you do Lyft full time. You just sitting in your own car,

you're listening to music, you have nobody to answer to. Now you have the liability. In a way, you're an entrepreneur in that way. You're taking it upon yourself. So I am all four employees, bettering themselves, bettering their, using their opportunities to leverage themselves into a life that they deserve. And I think at the end of the day, this will be a good thing for businesses to adjust. But it's just like anything else. You got to compete for labor in the marketplace, right? You have to compete. So that guy, the guy who was paying the dude 40,000, the person at the end of that line who pays 100,000,

it's probably a moron. But the guy who's paying 40,000 needs to adjust his business model as well, right? If he wants that same, like we think about this, like you buy this at Costco, it's 50 cents. So we have evaluation and this bottle of water's only 50 cents, but you go to the airport and it's $4. Now the person who's been paying 50 cents for his whole life is like, who's the moron that's paying $4? You see three people go up and

buy it. You're worth what somebody's going to pay you. That's what you're worth, right? So I mean, are you actually worth that? Well, that's for people like you to ascertain. Like, what is what is my stress level on talent, right? What is my stress level on employment? And then the other side of it becomes, you push too hard, like the unions have done forever. And it's like, okay, well now you're forcing us to find another way to do your job because you're too expensive and income the machines

or the outgoing outsourcing, things like that. So I mean, I just think we're in a very disruptive time right now where I don't, there's people that, again, I don't want to go on with these long rants, but it's like, nobody, you talk to kids under 25 years old, not a single one of them. Things about the buying a house and the white picket fence and like, they just think that they're gonna live paycheck

to paycheck their whole life. So if I'm not enjoying what I'm doing, I'll bail, and I'll find something else. Yeah, and by the way, that's the concern. And FYI, so in business, listen, Kmart started off in 1962 and a half. It's called the Super Saving Center with Walmart and Target. They all got started, same year. That was the Super Saving Center, which is everybody came out with this concept of massive facility facility cheap card

Memberships all this stuff right came art and Walmart started competing came art got money Five years later came art has 250 stores nationwide came art is kicking everyone's ass Guess how many stores Walmart has five years later from 1962 and half guess how many they have five years later came Mark's got 250 What do you think Walmart's got where they have it at the same time as no they started off zero zero on 1962 and a half five years later came our brazen money. They got 250 came our stores. How anything Walmart's got a dozen a dozen He's close nine nine stores five years later today came our side of business Walmart has got two and a half million employees What's the point here? You don't take care of your people, dude.

You ain't gonna make it in capitalism. This business sucks. This concept of capitalism, you ain't just gonna sleep at night. If you're gonna sit there, you're spending your money going to gambling, drinking, bullshit, not treating your guys good. Someone's gonna come and do it better than you. It's that simple, right? Walmart proved it.

K-Mart, circuit city, blockbuster. You can go on and on and on with the stories. There is nothing that's the great equalizer than business when you don't take care of your people. So businesses have that pressure forever, but let me put the opposite side. There's more people that are employees than there's businesses. You also are creating a reputation.

You know how, I'm gonna put an idea out there. If somebody really did this, I think this would blow up. I'm gonna put the side the out there. You ready? Okay, we have Glassdoor, no? So if you wanna go right, like, If somebody really did this, I think this would blow up. I'm gonna put this side the other. You ready? Okay, we have Glassdoor, no? So if you wanna go raid, like you can go to Glassdoor and check my ratings as a CEO.

Just gonna say, oh, this guy's this, this guy's then, you'll hear some stuff about me, right? You can go check any CEO on Glassdoor, fantastic, okay? You can go on all these other places. How about we flip it? We create a Glassdoor for employees. Every time you work at a company you get graded and the employer Scores you when you leave the company on who you were now. There's a glass for the employee

So millions of people in America now have a score for how good of an employee No, no, I'm sorry, but if but wait a minute if the big guys have the pressure and they got that Magnifying glass under why shouldn should everybody else I agree with you Yeah, isn't that what a resume is they check. No, it's not. No, it's not are you kidding me like you know when people I do interviews And they'll say so hey, there's a year and a half gap here. What happened my mom was sick I was I was taking care of my mom there It's a very emotional tough time for us like wow What are you asking a moment? Do you sit there? You say a proof of your mom?

I'm so what are you asking a moment? Do you sit there and you say I see a proof of your mom? Medical record and a mom is 48 years old dude your mom's a fitness model you say yeah Yeah, yeah, but the point is this is the stuff that you don't see so if we really want to go there I'm totally cool with it man Let's just put your score online and see how good of an employee you are and then maybe we realize did this guys been fired Nine times in five years. Okay. No, we ain't hiring you or change because the markets overpin you and you suck. Flat out. When your former employees start suing you.

Yeah. Yeah. And the former employees start suing you. Yeah, because you're giving them bad ratings. I think, I think if there is, I think if this was an open thing that we all did and there's accountability on both sides, let's go at it. It's very simple. Let's go at it. So I think that there's a lot of people that would be super into that.

I think so too. And I think maybe it's a business model we ought to consider. Who knows? Maybe we'll do it. Anybody that does it go through it, I'm not. Do I say one thing about dating? Do you have to do that where you could rate your exes or something like that?

And it was like, it could. I'm sure there's not a lot of vindictive exes or anything like that. I'm not sure. Forget what it was called. Oh my God. Only women could date men. I mean, could rate like dudes. And then like, but the problem what it was called. Oh my god only women only women could date men I mean could rate like dudes and then like but the problem with it was was like you didn't make your own

Oh, man, what the what was the name of this you didn't make your own profile somebody made a profile for you And then like if you were player they sent it around and next to you know It was called like pickle or something like that. What the heck what was the name of this thing man? Bad dating. Yeah, dude. Hey, are you on pickle? No. Yeah, man. It was having X's rate you.

Oh, that's not going to be, you're not going to make it with an A. Well, that's the, well, that's the same thing with X bosses. All things, and poorly, or else they wouldn't have had an idea. I give you an idea. If you hired me at 16 years old, this was my resume.

You ready? You should have hired me. X rated lets you review your X from hygiene to module to all the world to see. Okay. It's called X-rated is what it's called. I don't know where I got picked. It's a lot better named than pickle. But let's stay on the story. He was talking about some things. Can you go to the same PowerPoint by JD? I want to give this guy proper shout out. His name is Jason Doran.

He's the chief investment officer of NLG. The guy is an absolute G. He, one time him and I had dinner together in Dallas, a brilliant guy, chief economist there. So go to, go five down, go five down, five down, keep going, going until it's the three, one more down, one more down. Okay, right here, check this out. Go a little bit so people can see what the title is at the top.

So okay, what else is driving labor shortage? You know this entire time we're with this guy, he doesn't talk about inflation. He spends most of the time on the slide right here. Wage, flation, wage, flation, wage, flation. Two slides up, go quick, two slides up. Wage, flation, will declining labor force participation lead to wage, flation, two slides up, go quick, two slides up, wage, flation, will declining labor force participation lead to wage, flation?

This is a complete different angle on what's going on with salary. So go to two slides down, watch this here, it says number one, rising asset prices have allowed many US citizens to retire early. So he says number one reason why this is taking places because boomers are leaving the workforce, their million half is now three two.

So they can retire now. Because we're paying them rent. Exactly. So now they're going to say, look, I'm at him. But remember, baby, boomers, there are 76 million of them. So if these guys retire, it's not all, that's a lot of people that are retiring, that can still do the job. The second thing he talked about is the younger generation is coming into the workforce later.

So US citizens are entering the workforce later than ever. More than 60% of Americans have completed at least one year of college up from 40% in 1991. So they're going in, typically let's just say we're going to workforce at 22. Now they're going in 26. Four years later. So you're not getting these guys. That's a lot of sense. And then the last one he talks about is immigration into the United States at

Multi-year lows since 2016 Net migration into the United States has fallen 76 percent. Can you zoom in on that because I want people to see those numbers That's not a small number zoom in a little bit more and take it to the left. Yeah, a little bit more. Okay. That's perfect So if you that's the legal That's the legal. Yeah, right. That's the legal. I also like how that council is Net migration. So does that mean that there's a lot of people making money that are leaving the United States? Well, that's that could be the case as well, but look at that So look it from 2010

698,000 per year to 774,000 goes up goes up goes up Then 2016 Trump gets elected million 47 47, then it drops to 9.30, 702, 477, 247. That's a low. So that means we're also not getting some of these engineers that are coming from India or some of these people that are coming

from different places that are helping. So the bigger concern he emphasized was wage inflation, not inflation. You as an employer, you feel that. When you're going out to try and recruit people, you're like, man, I want to get this guy here, but shit, the rate for this is this. And if I bring this guy from New York,

your media company, he's making 110 over there. How do I sell him to come over here? It becomes unsustainable, because you got, when I'm saying, oh, I got all these offers other places, and then they're trying to leverage those offers to stay where they are, but for higher pay, you have to make a determination.

Is it worth it to you to pay them that amount? And if you don't have any of their options, in some cases, you have to bite the bullet and do it, and the business suffers as a result of it. So David, if you can't get off that and just come back to us so we can talk about this, it does. It definitely does. So this is what forces many business owners as sit there and say, maybe I got an outsource, maybe I got to get more technology,

maybe I got to figure out a way to automate this, maybe I got some of the stuff you got to figure out a way to automate, because this is gonna impact, you know what this is gonna impact the most? It's gonna impact the guy that's running a business making, you know, grossing three million and they're netting 200,000 owners.

He's gonna take a hit, because you can't afford to do that, right? It's gonna impact the guy that runs a, you know, a restaurant with 50 employees, and all of the things that's gonna sit a hit because you can't afford to do that, right? It's gonna impact the guy that runs a you know a restaurant with 50 employees and all the things going to turn to do that. How am I gonna because how many boomers have you seen as waiters? I go to Casa de Angelo. I swear to God there's like seven bar seven what do you call it? Waders that are 55 plus.

That's a boomer. They're nearly six years old and they're waiting. That's a pretty good six figure income salary So if these guys are like, I want to get out of it. Dude, how do I replace this? Well, that's the same thing. Think about that. Like, I mean, you know, if you're offering me 50 grand and I can make 50 grand as a bartender on the beach 50, which one am I doing? I can't see you as a bartender 100% bro, like you would crush it. I think the floor has come up

I mean if you know just a little bit of Spotify and you know just how to create just a little bit like a small internet business for yourself, something on Instagram with some targeted ads. I mean, you can make $35,000 from home. Just doing automated ads, something, you know what I mean? So I mean, there's there again, it's a disruptive thing. The business owners have to compete for the labor. The same way labor has to compete for the job. The business owners have to compete for the labor. And I do I feel bad for the business owner as a failed business owner myself? Yeah. You put everything into it.

But also the fact that guy has to, you know, eat 50 grand and go from a $250,000 net to a $200,000 net. Boohoo. I want my extra 10,000, like you know what I'm saying? That's the game. That's the game that's being played right now. You guys want the labor, that the labor wants the capital, and the person who's really killing it is the people who own the other stuff.

Is the solution to just keep paying people more, or to find a way to get more people into the workplace and stay in the workplace? I think the solution is, well, we need to even talk about who has access to credit and who doesn't. That's another thing. Who has access to lines of credit? You can play the long game, but then that goes against your argument.

How? Let me explain how and why. For example, who reads this and says, hell yeah. Who reads this and says hell yeah who reads this and says hell yeah Who reads this and says I Who else though international walnuts who else the employees were getting paid more no no the main you're right It's the employees getting paid more, but who's this there and says I freaking love this out. It scores another 10 years Yes, you're on the right track, Joe. Thanks. The big companies. Yeah.

The big companies are sitting there saying, hell, yeah. Force my competition to go out of business. Sure. Now, here's a part that anyone who can afford it. Exactly. So here's a part. Here's a part. Who do big businesses hate the most when they wake up in the morning?

Competition, small business. The government regulations. I don't know if they hate those guys. Believe it or not, I think what's happened in the morning. Competition, small business. Small business. The government regulations. I don't know if they hate those guys. Believe it or not, I think what's happened in the last two years, you really think Bezos wakes up and says, oh, that was a terrible, you know, $3 trillion, we said we should have never done that. Oh, okay, you made it into $80 billion or $200. That benefited here.

So who got shut down during the pandemic, who didn't? Yeah, tell us how you think the big businesses are scared of the little guys on down the block. Oh, one million percent. Tell me why the big businesses are scared a little about the body. What are you talking about? I mean, the little guys are Patrick Beverly.

The little guys are these players that are just annoying you. It's the small business owner that's annoying you. It's the message he can give that you can no longer give because they can nip away at the market. Yeah. The little guy is this guy. The little guys us. The little guys, the guys like, listen, come work for us. We want to change the world. We want to do something big. The big guys like, wow, no, no, no, you know, we're going to give you better benefits. Yeah. Oh, shit. Little guys like, let's go against those guys. Those guys are the enemy. Let's go be. Let's

go do it the right way. People are turned on by the little guy, the little guys are very, very annoying to the big guys. So for you, as you're saying that, I agree. I think, I think, you know, the whole, what did you call it? The tree filtering fire, what it, there's a word you use, said every once in a while, the forest needs to go through its self,

there's a word for it. You know where forests catch on fire and then you have to, you know, kind of get more sun. Yeah. Every once in a while, you kind of got to go through that, where some people get filtered out and don't make it. And some people got to get filtered out both on the employee end, as well as the employee. Totally get that.

But if your philosophy continues, the guys that are the biggest pain in the ass to biggest business owners are your allies, just all business owners. Those are the guys they can't afford this. I don't disagree with you on a theoretical level, but on a baseline level, I don't think the person who's trying to feed their family has to worry about in 10 years out,

what does this mean for the global economy? I think that if they have the, the opportunity to 25% their income, they have to take it in that moment, right? So, and again, when I talked about access to, you know, financing access to, if you have receivables, you have access to money that normal people don't.

And if your business goes under, you can be K without personal responsibility in a way that people can't personally be K right so there's there's different protections available for businesses as well that aren't available for sole proprietors or employees right so I mean there's there's a level of risk in all of this for everybody the difference is in a business when it goes you you lose everything that goes with that business, the reputation, the investors, the idea of coming back and doing it again. We hear a lot of success stories, but what you don't hear about is a lot of guys that people didn't want to invest in because they're first,

the second, the third deal didn't go on like, listen, I'm done, you can't figure this thing out. That story as well. I agree with you on what you're saying on the personal side, but you know on the personal side There's a lot less risk and it's a safer environment to be what an employee. There's a oh my gosh. It's a lot It's a lot more you you listen. I've been an employee and I was a bad employee. Okay Bob's big boy did the right thing firing me. Okay, I'm far from Bob's big boy. I got to fight some I'm very proud of it Okay, far from Bob's big, I got to fight some, I'm very proud of it. Bob's big boy fired me. Because I ate the Kostla and the walk-in freezer and too many times they told me, that was you, that Kostla was delicious.

Bob's big boy in Glendale, Burbank. If you remember those days, I love your Kostla. It was frozen. It was frozen. Burger King. It was a terrible chef. They would make me cashier. Good thing they fired me. They didn't work out.

Hagen does. Hagen does. I probably gave away more free ice cream and I worked. I was just like a guy that was having fun with everybody working there. Yeah, that guy should have gone fired. I go to the military. I get my ass kicked. I come back. I become a great employee. I become a great leader. Things change. Life changes, et cetera, et cetera. I totally get that part. But on the individual side, like listen, today you're like, do you don't want to take care of me? I got another job go I got another place to go go the employer can't lead you most employers are afraid to lead not the employer

That's done a good job and save money like you want to go go. I'm gonna find the right guy. Don't worry The small business owner who's only sitting on two hundred thousand dollars on the bank. He can't afford to lose you And today employees are bully and small business owners than the other way around. Not big business owners. You can't bully the big business owner. They don't give a shit, coal. But the small business owner today, Jard, is getting short.

How much of that too though is the lifestyle changes. Like again, the younger generation, they're living in vans, minimalist lifestyle. When again, when I was growing up, if you were 21 living at home, you were a loser. If you were 25, you had roommates, you were a loser. Now, everybody lives at home until they're 30 or they've got six roommates in Brooklyn. Everybody has this minimalist lifestyle. This entire younger generation, the zenials or the millennials, it's all about limiting

their liabilities so that they can have freedom. They're exchanging the wealth dream for a freedom dream. They wanna be able to travel whenever they want. They wanna be able to do whatever they want. So again, so I don't have a problem with that. Don't, that's great. As employers, all I'm saying is that in this environment, I just think whoever adapts to this new generation, I'm employees is gonna win.

I, you see, if I'm wrong. Their motivations are different is what I'm employees is gonna win. I, I, you see, they're, they're, their motivations are different. Is what I'm saying. They're not getting married at 22 like our parents did. They're not raising kids at 25. That's just a bunch of gibberish. And let me tell you why. It's not.

Yes, absolutely not. Absolutely not. I've lived it. No, it's a bunch of gibberish. Listen, what are you talking about? Like the Woodstock era. Hippie era. What were they doing?

Were they like, oh, maximalist? No, they were minimalist. It's a very small percentage of the population. Then it's a very minimal percentage of you know, how inspired people are today to go create and everybody today wants to be an entrepreneur. How many people should put a profile in 1930 said I want to be an entrepreneur?

Well, no, but again, that doesn't, doesn't that speak to my point that there's more options out there for you? No, it means today people are inspired to make an impact. They want to do something, but they saw what happened in O8, that's the whole story, where it goes through. This happened after O8, they saw their parents lose their house over the mortgage crisis that happened and

said, listen, I don't necessarily think buying a house is the American dream. And I think that's the part of it. Let me show one tweet I want to get sets feedback here. Go to our friend Robert Reich, the motivational speaker, who said, do you know how much COPay has skyrocketed since 1987? A hundred percent? Five hundred percent? Try one thousand, three hundred and twenty-two percent. This is unsustainable. Huh. I responded. It's a source of inspiration for kids to be a CO one day. MBA is 1978.

MVP Bill Walton made $100,000. Now, Steph Curry makes $46 million a year. That's an increase of 46,000%. Is that unfair that people playing a game make more money than COs creating a job? I'm happy for both. You sound bitter towards COs. FYI, you know how much the highest paid professor

makes in America today? Do you know the number one? Highest paid? Including book sales or? No, no, no, just highest paid professor. What do you think he makes? He or she makes it in. 100 grand, man.

No, wait, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. I got to submit somebody that teaching law at the University of Harvard or something like that. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna make $1 million a year. Just $400 grand. Okay, that's a lot of money for a professor. Yeah, for the highest paid.

Highest, she makes $400 grand. Plus. Yeah, the professor. So, the highest paid professor in America today, I wanna pull this up, highest paid professor. I don't know if I send you to Robin D'Angelo $50,000. No, no, no, no, you're about to be shell shocked. The highest paid professor in America today Pull it up. It's the first one right there. Go up there David Silver's folks. He makes

ready 4.33 million a year what professor clinical professor 4.33 million a year what professor clinical professor I'm a dermatology and pathology 4.3 million dollars Zev Rosenwax makes 3.3 million dollars professor these poor professors are broke Yeah, are they getting paid by the school that they're making that in their career and then they happen to be a professor Making that as a professor. 2.6 million. The full saying of that? These are going that.

These are private universities at least. Okay. William 1.9 million, 1.19 million. Anyways, so the point is, the point is, should we not pay these professors? I don't care if they're making that kind of money. Totally fine with that. Yeah.

They never go after NBA plays for the amount of money they're making. What's his name? My home's just got a half a billion dollar contract. And he bought the royals as a twenty two year old player yeah so you know this whole thing with Robert Ryd going after business owners what what are your thoughts on this with his position on CEOs having their salaries increased by thirteen hundred percent well i mean i think you know that bitterness right it the he sounds better towards them resentful

um... you know the the first of all i'd be interested in knowing when he's talking about the pay increasing, you know, a lot of this, a lot of this is CEOs oftentimes have equity, right? And their value, their net worth goes up. Yeah. A lot more than their pay. This was one of the topics we were getting into with Elon Musk a little bit. He was like, you know, people are, people are acting like I don't pay enough in taxes because on this, you know, I have hundreds of billions of dollars, and I'm not paying enough Taxes. He's like my value is in my Tesla stock, you know, investors decided the Tesla is a trillion-dollar company And I own 20% of that company, which means I'm worth $200 billion and that doesn't mean I haven't realized those gains So I'm not gonna pay taxes on that money

And the second you start selling it off, it goes down So it's not even real and yeah, and it may go down. The value of Tesla may go way down next year, and then his net worth goes way down. But those things come and go, but he took the risk of building that company, almost went bankrupt at certain points. But yeah, I mean, CEOs take a lot of risk, you know, if they're providing value that results in that kind of pay, then that's good for them. And people should be inspired to try to get to those roles, those positions, rather than saying, you know what, you make more than me, that's wrong.

We should make the same amount. That kind of like, that's when people actually think that the employee should make as much of the CEO. Anybody, like we work with hundreds and hundreds of people, I've never heard anybody here in this building or any other company I work for, that's a, what is the word? You know what, I should make as much as Pat.

You should hang out with some more socialists. Do you remember that, Comin? Maybe in like the corners of Brooklyn, but I don't know anybody in the real world that actually thinks that the underwriter should make as much as the CEO. Who has the guy that I've never happened? I've never happened.

It was the last time you were in Los Angeles. Who is the guy that was a CEO and he was making like a couple million or five million here? And he just had him on us again. Yeah, he just said everybody's every second. Including himself, I thought I got paid the same. Like does that make, how did that work out for him?

How did that work out for him? You know what I asked him when I interviewed him? I said to me, I asked the question, you think everybody should be paid the same. I do. I said, who owns your company? He says I do. I said, wow, you want 100% I want 100% the company.

Wow, your company does a lot. So you worked about $100 million. I am. I said, wow, you want 100%? I want 100% of the company. Wow, your company does a lot. So you worked about $100 million. I am. I said, how many employees you got? He said, 100. I said, I think you should follow your philosophy and give everybody 1% of equity. Right.

Share it. Or about, and you should have seen, if you've never seen this interview, you got to watch that reaction. He was so upset with me when I asked that question. I said, it's equity. Yeah. If you really want to follow that philosophy, follow it all the way through, he says,

I'm going to think about it. Salary, equity matter so much more than salary. Equity is the fastest way to wealth creation. In a business that's growing, you hold equity in that business. That's how you create wealth, not by trying to incrementally increase your salary over and over and over again. CEOs that get there, that figure that out, they deserve that money. Yeah, with millions of sleepless nights, missing a lot of parties.

By the way, that's that. The whole 1322, I'm going to look it up because yesterday, Ruslan sent me a text saying, I don't know if you saw that, he sent a message saying, is this calculated based on this? I said, just go read this link. Here's how it came up with that formula. The formula that everybody keeps talking about, CEOs were paid 350 times more than employees, all this other stuff.

Go all the way down. What would he think was the average CEO of a top 350 firms in America in 1978? Gerard, what do you think is the average salary of a top 350 firms? Is today's equivalency or no no in that time In the not inflation just pure what was their salary of the nineteen seventy nineteen seventy eight. What was their salary well? I mean you know for it. Well who fifty fifty seventy eight Reggie Jackson was the first million dollar player right is that true side?

Let's say five hundred thousand. Okay, cool go down by the way. This is the average of top dollar player, right? Is that true? Let's say 500,000. Okay, cool, go down. By the way, this is the average of that. Less than that, right? You're right, it's less than that. Now watch this. I looked at it to some like, there's no way. Keep going, you'll see it. It's a very, it's a chart right there. The average salary of a realized CEO,

realized a compensation was $1.7 million in 1978. What? Exactly. And today it's $24 million. So they're upset, but they forget that in 1978 they were making $1.7 million. Tyler, what's more than that? Tyler, what's $1.7 million in 1978 today? What's the equivalency?

What's $1.7 million in 1978? These conversations, to me, man, are like, they're just so like distasteful. But here's the part, yeah. But Gerard, if it's not, ifaste but but here's the part of Gerard if it's not What somebody else has made if it's not unpacked it sounds like what up? Are you kidding me? Of course these guys shouldn't be paid this kind of money. This is what they do This is the manipulation find out here go 1.78 million you is that million or billion? I think you put billion Put one zero, which is fine. Yeah

Is that million or billion? I think you put billion. Put one zero, which is fine. Yeah. 7.6. Okay. Yeah, so it's what, three times more, three times more than the average inflation rate of 3.36. Okay.

Yeah. So, and they've created a more value, bigger companies, more employees, they get paid more. That's the idea. You build, you win. I mean, winners are supposed to win. I mean, that's the idea, man. So then the formulas, really, they should say

it's increased three times more. Adjust the two-in-place. But they'll never save this time. They'll have to lie with mud. So just like our great emperor, Joe Biden, said, the media needs to do more to stop this information. Well, and this is what creates the resentment that leads people to thinking they're working

in a toxic workplace, right? Like, they don't have to say, they don't have to say everybody should be paid the same. They just have to say, they shouldn't be paid anywhere near as much as they're working in a toxic workplace, right? Like this is, they don't have to say, they don't have to say everybody should be paid the same. They just have to say they shouldn't be paid anywhere near as much as they're being paid. And then they can get everybody else to resent them. And then they feel the pressure to have to readjust how their company structure

to try to make everybody happy. But Seth, they somehow make it like that money should have been your money. Like that money created was somehow supposed to be somebody else's money. Everybody looks at it, like it's a big slice of pizza. And if this guy has two slices, that's one less slice for you. It's not, it's air in the balloon.

If anybody wants to do a fun little thing, draw a little square in a balloon and blow air in it. And as the whole balloon gets bigger, watch that square get bigger too. That squares yours. So when the economy grows, your square grows with it. It's not somebody else's. What a great visual.

What a great visual. So I mean, Sashtalk's money visual, by the way. Sashtalk's money. Okay, so let me say one thing about imploring this. You're the last person and we're changing it. Let me just say one thing about Plague. So obviously we've covered a lot of what CEOs thinks we have to assume your CEO of your company, founder or CEO.

A phrase that gets used or doesn't get used enough, I think, is the great reset. Everyone's talking, the great resignation. Everyone's resigning, resigning. No, these people are following else. I mean, unless they're just sitting home collecting unemployment, which I don't know how many people are still continuing to do that, if they are, you know, loserville. But I think a lot of people really are just, it's the great reset. Basically, what COVID did is a lot of people had to sit home for whether it was 36, 9, 12 months

and say, does this really what I want to be doing with my life? Is this, am I working in hospitality? Do I actually want to do this or do I want to pursue something else? So a lot of people have taken this time to say, let me reassess really, and you've touched on this, is this giving me meaning and purpose in my life?

And a lot of people have just changed careers. I think 50% of workers are thinking about changing an actual career. So I know we're talking about a lot of CEO and CEO Pay and a great resignation, but these people need to fall somewhere else. There's always gonna be losers out there that have no purpose or drive or willpower

that wanna do something with their life, and they're just gonna take the government checks and the stimulus and take the unemployment and just leach off the government as much as they can. But a lot of people are saying, you know what, I was working in hospitality. You know, there's a difference you talk about this all the time, there's a difference between

having a job and having a career. So all this great, reshuffle, if you know, if maybe that's a different term, is people saying, you know what? I'm not finding fulfillment and finding joy. And this lemme find something I can do long term. What that should be your goal. So what percentage is that?

Because the flip side of that is the final one, which you have to be very careful with. So this one guy posts something the other day, frickin' ridiculous thing, he posts it the other day. Cindy Kobo sent it to me, I wish I wanna give this guy shout out, it was such a frickin emotional thing to read Cindy you send it to me. Let me see hang on one second guys. I promise you the story is worth you reading I'm gonna send this to you. It's by Sean Whalen. I don't know if you follow Sean Whalen or not

Yeah, lion's not cheap. Is that what it is? I don't I actually don't follow him I actually it was me $10,000 because we bet because we bet the guy with the beard and the tent is yeah, yeah, we bet much like how we had a bet who would win the presidential election of $620,000. But you got the money here. I did. You paid me Sean Wail and duck and pull up, pull up what I just sent you and put it up. So this guy posts a story and I think it has a lot to do with what you're saying and people have to be very careful because a lot of people can listen to what you just said and said, yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing. But the reality is you just could when shit got tough.

Let me show this to you on what he put as a father with his son. So incredible, incredible story. So can you make that bigger? So that's him and his son, okay. That picture itself is so emotional when you just look at that kid, look at that kid right there.

All right, so I love being a dad more than I'll ever be able to orate. This is my son after bloody war of arresting match tonight. Real talk. He's been hating wrestling this year. He's 15 and in his head about a lot of stuff, trying to figure out a lot of things and he flat out didn't want to wrestle. I told him he didn't have to wrestle but he had to get a full-time job instead by a certain date and he didn't. So as a man of his word, he wrestled. It's been a mental battle for him. I've been watching him and working to be supportive, but encouraging that to hold space

for him, but to push him this morning, he got pinned. And I could feel his frustration. I could see it in his energy. He was mad and dejected. So after his match, we had a chat. I told him, as I've told him many times, that it's in a deep water, a man is forged. In it's in the pain that the strength is found, and it's only the hottest fires that makes the strongest weapons. I told him earlier today, that inside of him was a savage, a literal raging lunatic, lunatic, and that's who needed to show up

in the next match. I told him to imagine that this match determined if his family literally lived or died. I had him close his eyes and visualize winning to visualize his savage inside of him. Right before he got on the mat tonight, I grabbed his face and told him, I love you, Nagobi Violent. He went three rounds, bloodied his opponent, and came off the mat with the victory and blood pouring out of his mouth. I was emotional, I was choked up because I saw the savage, I saw the man who overcame the frustration and fear and the man who will walk into life and not succumb to mediocrity and pain.

Life is not fair, life isn't easy, life wants to kill you and beat you down at every turn and tonight I saw my son dig into the place in your soul that most humans run from and avoid. I saw in his eyes the savage gladiator who will find peace in the storm and who won't run from fear or pain. I love my children. I love them deeply. When they are woven in my heart, they are woven in my heart and I has got every day to give me strength and insight to lead them.

Tonight was a special experience. I will never forget. I pray he never forgets this. This is emotional. So to me Adam, as much as I want to sit down and agree with you, I hate to say this to you. A lot of people come in when they're going through that mode and you know what they're simply doing?

Things are hard and they're quitting. If you quit because things are hard and it's really underheated a moment, you ain't making a career change. You're gonna go to another job or company and shit's gonna get hard there as well and then you're gonna quit again. It's like relationship, marriage is hard.

Relationships the hardest thing you'll ever do. What are you gonna do, go find somebody else and it's gonna get hard again and hard again and hard again? For 10 or 20% of people that make sense that they're going through that, I totally get it. For the other 80% that are selective hearing they're looking for, I saw a sign on a billboard that told me change careers.

Yeah, we can look for many reasons to get, you know, a lot of different things that leave behind. People have to be very careful on messaging. Again, I may be wrong, but I'm telling you, I saw some like this. I would much rather teach my kid to say, but a good form as a dad to say, you know, you have to get a job, you're gonna quit wrestling. You know, you're gonna do one of those or keep them with wrestling. Anyways, maybe wrong, it is what it is. I admire a man like this.

I just wanted to give him props. Thank you for inspiring me to share your story. Or else I would have forgot. Well, let me just say, I've been at the same job for 15 years. You know it's the financial industry. You know what happened in 2008. You think I had a, you think it was a bit of that?

I've no choice. But give that message, bro. Okay. No, no, what I'm saying to you is, inject that philosophy in people. That's fine. Dude, you're a millionaire because you didn't quit last 15 years. I agree.

Yeah, you're a freaking stout. How many freaking times could you been distracting on something else? I agree. However, if I hated my job two years in, and I didn't want to stay there, I would have found something else out of the box. Let me get this straight.

Tell me you wake up every morning saying, I can't wait to do another life, so I'm not even a little. Okay, then. Exactly. But how come you haven't quit? Because now the money's too good How many years into it? They just start making money a couple years in a couple years and then there was a dip after the recession

And I had to build my way back up in an industry that had a lot of and a lot of people let me just sing to your praises here everyone in Everyone was basically trying to get into the mortgage industry in 2006, 2007, 2008, and then everyone in the mortgage industry tried to get into the financial services industry and to look at the tables of turn, everyone is getting out of the financial services industry, trying to get into the mortgage industry. It's just, everyone wants to follow a hot topic, hot trend, I get it. But this goes back to my initial point. Think, yes, things will get tough, you got to stick it out It's not always fun. It's not always sexy

But you need to find a career and ultimately what I'm saying is if you're not happy in your job And you just need to take that reset or you know resignation whatever but find your career More power to you bro, but yes like this guy like the rest don't do it because it's not going to be easy Everyone I think everybody knows whatever career path wrestler, it's not going to be easy. Everyone, I think everybody knows, whatever career path you take, it's gonna be fucking tough. How long have you been doing the writing business? I've been at the helm of the bee since 2018.

Okay, but saying, when did you start your writing career? Well, I've been an entrepreneur since 2012. Okay, so at any point, did you feel like quitting or just now this is not for me? Yeah, I mean, it's hard work. You know, I don't I don't get to take days off You know, it leads into my vacation time my family time. You know, it's very difficult It's very it's it's strenuous and there's also obviously, you know, all the risks that comes along with you know Not not every business succeeds. I've had my share failures Investments that failed or startups that failed

So yeah, it's hard. You got to pick yourself back up and continue to just push forward and believe in yourself that you can get there if you continue to go instead of quitting. The minute you resign yourself to just thinking, I'm going to take the easy road, well, it may be easier, sure. But it's certainly not going to be as lucrative or as fulfilling in the end

Because you didn't go out there and accomplish as much. I mean all these things that you know The the challenges the Or what in the in the perseverance through it is what builds character It's the same thing like you never have an opportunity to have any courage unless you're in danger Right like the these kinds of things that the positives come in response to the negatives And and that and that's how you that's how you sharpen a blade is with that friction, right? Look at his eyes, by the way. Look at his eyes, honestly. Look at his eyes. For me, I still a story.

You know what those eyes tell you? You said you have an eight and a six-year-old? Yeah, yeah. Those eyes are like, you think I'm going to be by the business or my kids' dog? Like, what do you want me to tell? It's a pain of a person. That part needs to be given more. I want to change subject because we haven't had any of our subject.

This 20-minute story became an hour and 10-minute story. We had a meeting yesterday to get more structured. And we broke our own rule. But this is our top story. This was fantastic. Fantastic. OK, next one. Joker, loses shot at Tennessee Street

as Australia deports star. I'm going to retool the stories about this guy. And can you pull up some of the tweets in regards to Joker? So, no matter how much Joe Kovic anti-vaccination stance has cost him a potential payday of $2.1 million in Shada tennis history after the play losses battle to remain in Australia and was deported, the Serbian boarded a flight from Melbourne, airport late Sunday night after the nation's federal court upheld the decision to revoke his entry permit. Over fears, his presence would strengthen anti-vexension sentiment.

It wasn't up to the court to decide on the merits of the decision, only whether it was a logical or legally unreasonable, unreasonable. The player could face a three-year ban from entering Australia but the prohibition may be waived if there's under compelling circumstances. Okay? So this whole situation of him, what people don't realize is, I think this would have made him the greatest of all time

by winning. Can you see who has the most majors? Intense, they're all tied. They're all tied up on it. They're all tied up on it, right? Betterer, Joe Kovic, and... And if he wins, he would have been number one. He almost won one like two, three months ago. Like he won second place because the other guy beat him. Right. But by the way, that would be on top of his winning record against them individually.

He has a winning record against Federer individually. He has a winning record against Nadal individually. So if he also has the most majors, then the argument starts to go in his favor that he's the go. And you're a tennis player, so you would know this stuff. You follow this stuff. There you go. So 2020, total, six Wimbledon, eight for federal, OK, so that's that part. Now go to what some people have to say about this,

and I want to get our panel here to see what their thoughts are. So who's this? Law girl? Who is this person? Do we know who this person is? Just a user? Okay, Joker which cannot visit us Australia for three years We are we are the only country that thinks it's okay to lock out the number one tennis player on the brink of being the best in the world Not because he's a health risk, but because he might make the 90% of its citizens already waxed not get a booster

So go to the next to it. Let's read a few of these guys Make it bigger. Okay, Joker is great tennis player. He's a great tennis me afero. He's a great tennis player, but he lied and worse, he knowingly exposed people to COVID, had it with him and every other arrogant, entitled person. They're all dangerous in one way or another. There you go. Next one is Pierce Morgan breaking, one is Pierce Morgan breaking, COVID rule sheet, immigration from liar, and anti-vaxxer icon Novak Jokovic loses final appeal against deportation and will be thrown out of Australia without being able to compete in Aussie Open. Look at that picture. Yeah, Melbourne right above them. And go to the next one there. Ben Huzas from Ben Dominoche, I feel like Australia underestimates how

this Novak joke-witch incident has grown to tired and tired nation as fundamental the anti-ferredum in a place you should not visit for a long time to come. As a tennis player yourself, what do you think about this story? I look, I think at this point, a joke-witch is a champion not just of tennis, but of freedom. I mean, he is pushing for personal individual freedom to be able to make I look I think at this point a joke of it is a champion not just of tennis but of freedom I mean he's he is he is pushing for Personal individual freedom to be able to make your own decisions The man is healthy the man is currently healthy and he's not he's prohibited from playing from staying in the country and from playing the tournament

Why what is the reason for that? There's rules everybody has to follow the rules, but are the rules stupid? Or are they reasonable? You know, if somebody's healthy, and if he gets the Vax, he can still spread COVID, and people can still get it, then why is he prohibited from playing just because he doesn't have it? This is individual choice, the man's currently healthy. If he passes a COVID test, and he's COVID free, when he walks into the stadium, why can't he play? That's my question, but you know, he was willing to put, I mean, look,

if he wins this tournament, which he was actually fairly likely to win it, he's the best player in the world right now and he's won the Australian Open how many times nine times maybe? I think it's like, he's more than any other. Like how does the dog has the French open?

He's got the option. It's the one he's most likely to win. He'd win three and a half million dollars. You know, the fact that he's taken a stance for he's most likely to win he'd win three and a half million dollars You know the fact that he's taken a stance could potentially cost him his sponsorships. La cost is looking into whether or not They're gonna get out of here. Get out of here. He makes thirty million dollars a year on on sponsorships So that's I mean, that's his primary income right is his sponsor so He put a lot of risk here to be able to stand by a conviction. I respect that and I'm disappointed in other players who are piling on to him saying, you know, he's selfish and major play in any Murray. Nadal's had comments. Nadal has been the most out on.

Yeah, what in Nadal says, but he basically said the tournament is bigger than anyone person, you know, the focus Dean's is not beyond. But he also said he knew the rules before he showed up. He knew the rules. He should have followed the rules. You know, we all had to follow the rules. He's not he is not beyond. But he also said, he knew the rules before he showed up. He knew the rules, he should have followed the rules. We all had to follow the rules. He's not special, he's not exception. I think 98 of them, he said all of that. 100 players are vaxed in the 10th associate. What if they're making life easier for themselves?

And you have to just choice to make. There's a sacrifice now. And that's what they're trying to do. They're trying to make it extremely costly to not go along with the program and the question is does the program even make sense Adam what do you thoughts on the store look i think and i've actually asked multiple friends of mine who play tennis and have you know actually played against federal you know these types of like

legitimate people and there's a couple different angles I'll go here. On the actual, I'll show you. Like, he did lie and mishandle this, and I forgot to do this, and he did show up to a freaking photo shoot while having COVID. So he could have handled it better.

I'll give you a different perspective. If you asked everyone around here, who are the best tenor players? Most people would say Federer, okay? Most people would even say Nadal. I don't know if, I think, Nadal and Federer specifically have such a grasp on who is the best tennis player because they're more likable and have a bigger persona

and just their personality is more the joke of itch. I feel like he doesn't have as much of and your tennis player as much, you know, likeability within the tennis world. Like we actually had like he's tied as the greatest ever tied, but nobody I don't think really understood that. So I feel like there's a part of him that even with COVID wants to get out there, when become the great, become the go to, you know, become the goat, but I don't know if he has the, the likability of- You ever seen these interviews?

Have you ever seen him do interviews? Not, like I can tell you a lot about Federer's personality and the doll, you know, good-looking Swav dude. I don't know much about Joker, I honestly. Let me tell you, I've watched this guy's interviews and to me, I look forward to his interviews. I look forward to his interviews.

Because you can feel the level of intensity and commitment to his craft. And when he loses or makes a mistake, like one time he hit the ball, I don't know, he hit the person on the side, I don't know what it was, the situation. And how about you? He felt like crap in the interview afterwards. Like he was like, and it wasn't a big deal, but he was like, could you and you could felt as a feel the sincerity? I don't know. He got booted out of the turn. Yeah, I know he did. Yeah, I remember that. I know he did. And he said I deserved it. Like he

didn't even come out and like, you know, how that press caught yesterday is like, yeah, I was a referee. They threw, you know, whatever they threw stuff at the referee. This guy took responsibility for his whatever they threw stuff at the referee. This guy took responsibility for his actions. I think the fact that he, listen, if you got COVID, you're this big of a name, you can't go to a place and I tell people you got COVID. Did he have COVID?

I mean, he tested positive. He did. I don't know the story. He had no symptoms. You know, he's got no symptoms at all. He does have COVID. Now, having to test it again to make sure. Yeah, by the way, here's a flip side of it.

Here's a flip side of it. How many flights you think you're on and people who are on flights have COVID? It could be the person sitting next to you. You don't think people get on flights that have COVID? Anyways, your thoughts. We'll go to the next subject after your thoughts. You're tell us.

Bro, the most famous moment of Michael Jordan's career is when he had a highly contagious virus. And he had 103 freaking fever. And he went out and won games. It's the flu game. That's a great point. It's the flu game. Yeah. This dude was highly contagious and was praised for going for fighting

through it. How many people did the evil Michael Jordan bring up a really good pose to fluenza? It's a different time. It's a different time where the wrong people have the microphone. We've got to tell these people to shut up. Anybody that from Australia that's allowing their

government to do this? You, this is on you. I've never met anybody from Australia that was this type of person. Everybody from Australia, I've met with a man's man, loved, freedom, hard corporate, same thing with Canada. Every Canadian I ever met was an awesome awesome hard work and freedom loving person. And you're letting these tyrants take over your country like this. That's what I'm saying. The rules are stupid. Man the rules are stupid. Dude, we're not

allowed to say mass formation psychosis. We're not allowed to say it, right? But maybe we can say collective munchowns in syndrome. Everybody's a threat to everybody now? Everybody's sick, everybody's a threat to your well-being. This is complete and total bullshit, dude. This is one of the healthiest human beings on earth. Literally, quantifiably, one of the most healthy human beings on earth, and you won't let him into your country

because he's a threat to your physical well-being. What type of crazy bullshit world do we live in in now? This is outrageous. Yeah, the only thing I would tell you is the only thing I would tell you is if you're in a time like this at this level of sensitivity in a country that's the most sensitive, you have to take slightly a different approach. You don't have to play the tournament, don't show up. These are the rules they created.

You can't go and say, for example, like what you're saying to me, we're probably more on the same page on what you're saying. But this is Australia, this is their rules. If that's what they're doing. If you knew, I don't know the story if you knew or not. That's the part about the story with him and Aaron Rogers are kind of similar.

By the way, a little bit of kudos to NFL for not doing anything to the guy. So that tells you as much as Roger Godella and NFL gets a lot of heat. Good for them for you. He's going to win the MVP. Well, what I'm saying is, well, some of the more calm, I don't know if you've been following stories lately, they're saying Brady may win it. I think it's Roger's as MVP, but they may give it to Brady. But if you think about how Godella, this kind of validates maybe the NFL is doing a little bit better job than we thought they're doing. Then tennis, especially for Australia.

Anyway, the next thing up is the French Open, and it's gonna be the same thing again. Oh, you didn't see the story that they said, they may not let them play in the French Open. They may not, right? Exactly, Wimbledon's gonna be the same thing. It's crazy to me. You're saying that's the next thing.

Major, yeah, it's the next thing. There's gonna be things, there's gonna be things, because that's not till May. Right, so keep in mind, I think there's an event in Dubai in the next few months, there's a Miami open in March. It's the people, so we'll see what happens with that.

It's on the people. It's on the people of Australia. It's on the people of France. It's on the people to say enough's enough. This is nonsense. Just a quick comment too about your reputation. I follow the sport pretty closely. I know a lot of people who don't like him

and who have gotten that same feeling. He's not a very likable guy. Whether that plays into this or not, and people are just out to get out of it. I'm cool with it. I'm just saying that as likable as a veteran. Yeah, maybe not. You know, veteran for a long time got real cocky. Remember, veteran started walking out with a vest that had like his initials on it, like who is the greatest, he's number one on his shoes. He was, but there was a lot of air against there. And Jokovic has never done that. He's never called himself, you know, the greatest and worn number one on his shoes and all that.

I've seen him overturn calls that the Empire made in his opponent's favor because he saw it was clearly in when the Empire called it out. Well, he was a six one in that. I forgot, this is, guys, this is big. I mean, you know. This is bigger than Novak Jokovic. This is, they made an example out of him to show the rest of the country who's in charge and show

the rest of the world. They won't let him in charge. They won't let him in charge. This is the thing, Pat. I was just out of Miami and I did my whole thing on my story. And it was like, here's the truth of the matter, man. We all have to make a decision. Even if you're on that team quote unquote, if I want to go to a restaurant in New York

City, do I really have to show a permission slip from the Democratic Party that I'm, that I'm obedient enough to eat? Because let's just say that that's what it is. That's what the Vax Pass is. It's a permission slip to the elites that I'm on board. I, I, I, may I, may I please have a size of pizza? Please, I'm okay with the Democrats. Like, how can you be okay with this?

But again, here's what it goes back to. Jeter Diabella was sitting right here when she said, let them sink. I don't have a lot of money, but the little money that I have, I'm gonna pick it up and leave. People like that are making a decision. And Gerard, you know, when you pick up a bad habit,

how long does it take until you realize this bad habit is running your life? 10 years or so? But why could you just say it? I'm actually being very serious with you. Think about it. We all have had a bad habit that got a hold of us. I had a bad habit that got a hold of us.

How old are we? How long does it take until you realize it's gonna hurt you? Well, how long do you realize it's gonna hurt you? But then after the longer it goes, the longer it takes to fix it, man. But again, but how long do you realize that it's gonna hurt you? But then after the longer it goes, the longer it takes to fix it, man. But again, but how long until you realize there's a there's a consequence to this But it's a difference between realizing it and actually doing something about it. Yeah, I realize it in you guys all in and I became scientists. I was a basic fast trust the science.

I've been saying it for the whole this time. Yeah, I got an epidemiology. That's why struggle with it. But just one other thing here, what if the other players? What if the doll instead of saying these were the rules You got to follow what if the doll has said you know what? I'm not playing the doll story You know, but they don't let joke which play and then if and then if like dominoes other guys That's why I'm not You know who did not What a frickin point tournament no turn of great freaking point then they would have to say you know what let the guy play

He's healthy. Yeah, you know what, let the guy play he's healthy. You thought that we're not gonna do that? You know who did that in the NBA? Kevin Durant, you carry your race. Did he stand with him? He did, he says, I'm never gonna ask him to do it. I support my teammate.

Kevin Durant, and guess what, the NBA finally said, all right, let him play on the road. Yeah, but the difference is he actually played, and he's been dominating, he's been MVP type, who's he's Durant? Now he's out for a month though. So, but to difference is he actually played and he's been dominating. He's been MVP type. Call it who's not gonna Grant now he's out for a month though, so we see but but to set's point if Durant said look I'm gonna stand with Kyrie and if he can't play I can't play now if literally the league's potential MVP is saying I'm also not gonna play and half the players stay with them have weight they have power people this this goes They're too much. They're not going to try to get into the,

if they're in a paper. It applies everywhere. If we all stand up to tyranny together, then they can't push us around anymore. It's when everybody's compliant and everybody's feeling that pressure because 99% of people are going along with it. You stand out when when joke of it stands up

and stands against it, he stands out. He's the one that they can strike down. Let me ask you a question. Cause he's buying himself. How many of you guys listening? Be honest. Dave's got a strong, it. He stands out. He's the one that they can strike down. Let me ask you a question. He's buying himself. How many of you guys listening? Be honest. I'm going to be strong. No, no, hear me out.

This is the part that I love capitalism and competition. You have no idea how much I trust competition. Okay. How many of you are thinking about in 2022, family vacation, straight up, you're going Australia. Anybody who I've nothing. You know what I'm so inspired. You know what? That's what I'm know, it's a great point. Let's

go to the ship. If you go off the Shucks on St. Rachel, government will have a petition works. If you're a vaccine, you might want to know. You're not going to go to Australia, even if you're waxed.

No one's outside, bro. Like, what am I going to do in Australia? The other day, I got a text from a guy on a cruise ship. He's on a cruise ship. There's 150 people on a cruise ship that fits 4,000. He's like, here's me having breakfast with four other people literally recorded the whole thing.

Nobody, what are you going on a cruise ship for? To be alone or go to a freaking different place? There's a price to be paid for. There's your next Babylon B headline. There's not enough tourists to leave five stars. There you see. All right, let's go to the next story here. Next story added to 270 doctors in regards

to Joe Rogan trying to censor him. Only Hunter were actually doctors, which is quite interesting. So let me, what page is that on by the way? Is that a page five deal? Let me go to page five. Followed on the release of a viral Joe Rogan Experience podcast episode featuring guest doctor Robert Malona, letter from a more than 270 doctors.

Describe and Rogan has a, by the way, this is a post millennial story. Describe and Rogan has a menace to public help was sent to Spotify during urgent company sensor. The podcast star, it's since been revealed, though that a large portion of those doctors are not part of practice and doctors. Over 50 were PhD academics, 60 were college professors, 29 were nurses, 10 were students, formal medical residents, and a handful of science podcasts. There's included in the signatures,

signatories of the letter, Dr. Malone's interview has reached many tens of millions of listeners vulnerable to predatory medical misinformation, mass information, mass misinformation events of this scale have extraordinary dangerous ramifications to letter states. What difference does it make if all of them were doctors? What if all of them were doctors? Like doctors can't disagree with each other. I mean, you know, you can get 270 doctors that say this and you can find 270 that say something different and that's debate, right? That's's heresy there is but one science and it is the word of science how dare you blaspheme science who get which doctors get to speak for science who who

who decides which doctors get to speak for science and then he felt she he is the science he is science right I am the science praise science praise me to the science I agree with you I don't think even if it was 270 doctors, 2007, 100 doctors that Spotify would have changed their stance whatsoever. We talked about this last podcast. They're winning right now. Yeah. And even if they were even a little bit concerned

with these 270 doctors, the fact that it's just actually laughable, it's like, well, it's actually a nurse and actually an EMT and a couple of drunk guys who actually interned at like- I don't want a guy who stayed in a holiday and expressed that thing. Exactly. I think it's only going to strengthen their stance. I don't think Spotify is going to do anything. If there's anybody that's uncancellable at this point,

we're looking at him right here. It's Mr. Joe Robo. Look, this is the same thing happened with Chappelle. You try to suppress speech like this and you draw more attention to it. It's the stress and effect. You know the stress and effect. And I- The barbra strison effect? I tweeted about this. Yes, the barbra- you know what that to it. This is a sad effect. You know the stress and effect. And I went, I tweeted about this.

Yes, the bar, you know what that is? The bar was straight. Let's hear about it. She owned by like, suing the photographer that took the pictures and the lawsuit attracted attention to the pictures and the millions of people saw them. So she drew attention to these pictures

that she didn't want anybody to see. That's the stress and effect. It happens every time they try to censor people like this. I tweeted about this when I saw it happen. I'm like, now I have to watch this interview. Now I have to, I wanna see what they don't want me to see. But by the way, just smooth for thought here. One of the most important men in the world today,

I wanna keep emphasizing how important this man is and protect this man, folks. I'm telling you right now, as a guy named Daniel Eck, he is the CEO of a company called Spotify. If it wasn't for him, Joe Rogan would be off of Spotify. Power to Daniel Act, the CEO, again, highly paid CEO,

folks, we should be like, really? He makes a lot of money. He makes a lot of money. If he had a paid CEO, has the backbone to say. I'm calling on him to apologize right now for how much money he gets. He needs to apologize. How dare you, sir.

He makes $17 billion more than the average Spotify artist. Oh my gosh, Listen, at Daniel Eck, you're stuck. Keep doing what you're doing. You're impacting the world in a positive way for giving a voice. What I don't like, though, Pat, is the what Robert Malone told you in that interview that doesn't exist. The name of the company, they went and the Biden administration said, don't say this, he says something. And instead of them counteracting it, there's a hit piece the next day in the Atlantic.

And then social media linked it in Twitter, use that hit piece as an excuse to take him down and fake news. So there's very, very clear, I don't know, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call, call,, causation, the whole now, whatever, but there's a very clear chain of events here and it's like, man, they've got a whole hit squad

infrastructure on how to justify taking you down. There's a literal plan in place, a censorship plan in place that's coming from the people that we have in charge of protecting us. There's also a market for us. You've got Rumble hosted his interview after YouTube took it down. They actually took that down.

I think, right? Yeah, Rumble is hosted. Rumble is like an alternative to YouTube. It's like a free speech alternative. And they're like, the views on that are going crazy and people are flocking to Rumble. So there's a market response to this too, where people are getting fed up with YouTube

and everybody telling them what they can and can't see. Like, let us decide for ourselves. Let us take in information from Like let us decide for ourselves. Let us take in information from both sides and decide for ourselves. Like trust us to do that. I gotta call with the Rumble CEO this week, they reached out.

Listen, all I trust, I'm telling you folks, no matter how much go through idolizing competitors to demonizing competitors, to humanizing competitors, trust competition, it's good for you. I am telling you, competition is good for all of us. Let's go to the next story because we can go 15 more minutes. The Santa says there's something going on with the Santa's and Trump right now that's a little bit, I don't know if you guys have found on the story close to you or not.

The Santa says he regrets not speaking out much louder against Trump's recommendation to stay home. Okay. The saying is, this is a CNN story. Florida governor of the Santa said one of his biggest regret in office was not speaking out much louder than March 2020 former when former President Trump advised the nation to stay home to slow the fast spreading coronavirus. The census blamed people like Dr. Anthony Fauci for advising Trump to consider shutdown Fauci, the country's top infectious disease expert with part of the coronavirus response

team that led by Vice President Mike Pence and included other health public experts, public Trump to consider shutdown. Fauci, the country's top infectious disease expert was part of the coronavirus response team that led by vice president Mike Pence and included other health public experts, public experts. But the decision was Trump's to make in the census ultimately followed the White House lead, closing Florida schools, government buildings, gyms, bars, and restaurants, dining rooms, and advising floor radiance to stay home.

The other day, Trump was being interviewed. Who was he being interviewed by? Was it Henry? I don't know. He was being interviewed Trump was being interviewed, who was being interviewed, I was at Hannity, I don't know, he was being interviewed, I don't know who was being interviewed, he said, you know, there are certain governors out there that don't even have the backbone to say they've taken a booster. Didn't say name, didn't say name, but we know the girl that always interviews Trump, what's her name from Fox Business, Bartorom, is it Maria Bartorom? She was interviewing the censusas and she said, hey, Governor Santas, have you taken a booster? And he didn't necessarily say yes.

Didn't say yes, I've taken a booster. Trump, when he was asked by Hannity, he said yes. What do you think is going on here between Trump and the Santas? I think the Santas is trying to put distance between himself and Trump. Show that there's a difference between him and how he handles things. Because I mean, like what Trump is still the front runner, right, for the nomination? to try to put distance between himself and Trump, you know, show that there's a difference between him

and how he handles things, because I mean, like what Trump is still the front runner, right, for the nomination? I mean, that he's in the Republican party? That's probably true. Yeah, he's still the front runner. DeSantis has received a lot of praise from the right on his handling of things, criticism from the left.

You know, they called him death-santis and all of that. But, you know, the lockdowns were so heavily criticized on the right. And a lot of people saw it early on. A lot of people said, Hey, if we keep kids home, there's going to be problems. If we, if we, if we stay inside, you know, there's going to be, there's going to be drug problems. There's going to be depression. There's going to be suicides. There's going to be that, you know, people were really telling, like, warning about what would happen. And a lot of people went along with that. I think it's good that he's saying that he regrets not coming against his strong. I don't know that, you know, hindsight's

always 2020, right? Like, can you really know that that would have been the right thing to oppose at that time? Maybe not. But I think he's trying to distance himself from him. I got a question for you. Follow up on that on that topic. Sure. The only reason he would distance himself is because he may run in 2023, 2023, 2024. Because if he really doesn't want to run for president in 2023, 2024, he wouldn't push too hard against Trump because he's going to need Trump's votes in 2028. If he goes this angle the way I perceive it is, I think there's a, my chances of the sentence wanting to run officially one up 20, 30% simply because of his

comment made here. Because you have no other motive to call out Trump in this setting here than wait if you really only run a 20, 20, I think he's running. I don't know. I think he's running in 2024. No, listen, that, that, what he just said right there think he's running in twenty twenty four nine of listen that but he just said right there he's trying to tell you voting for me it's very different than voting for trump yeah that's a campaign message again i may be wrong i think that's how i message works in the general

election there listen if trump wants the republican nominee everyone should just stay home and not even waste their fricking time republicans are on board with Trump if you're Anti-Trump Rhino whatever dude move over Trump has that nomination now Do I think Trump is gonna go get elected in the general election? Likely not but we'll see we'll see if if he's still as polarizing when it comes to 2024 I don't think Biden is going to run again in 2024 if if I'm dissentist I look at the nonsense

and I say, I know you might disagree, you think he should strike while the iron's hot. I look at the nonsense and I say, dude, I'll just see you guys in 2028 and just be the man and just, and completely dominate at that point. I don't think he wants it to be in Trump's shadow. I think that is not good for his long-term legacy.

Being Trump's VP, I don't think that's his look. Sure, I'm. You'd die the hero, you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. He's hot right now. He's never gonna be hotter. There's never gonna be a weaker opponent if he's ever gonna run it's now.

If he waits four years, that's four more years. What do you mean by a weaker opponent? The Democratic Party is a big step. Yeah, but what I'm not even talking about, he has not even, like you got to get through your primary before you even talking about, he has not even, like, you got to get through your primary before you even think about Democrats right now. There's a lot, do you think, here's the question for you?

Sure, sure. You're a pretty smart guy. If DeSantis runs, and obviously Trump, I think, is gonna run. Is there any chance DeSantis, you know, unseats Trump as the nominee, you the Republican Party? I think you'd be shocked how many people, traditional conservatives would back to Sanctus over Trump. I think that the mad...

So you think the Sanctus would beat Trump in a primary? I'm not saying that whatsoever. I'm saying I think it would be a better fight than you think it would be. I personally believe MAGA has always been less about Donald Trump and more about somebody, anybody willing to fight back

against the global slaps. I disagree. I think it's just Trump. That's it. No, I, it's the question. So answer the question. Can DeSantis beat Trump in a primary? Yeah, for sure.

I, for sure. Yeah. There's no way you can have that kind of confidence, for sure. Can DeSantis beat Trump in a primary? Let me ask you a question. Why would you ask a question if you weren't going to accept an answer that came from the question? I just, let me ask you a question. Do you think white is black?

No, it's not. You're an idiot. Well, kind of a question is that. I just, I respect the fact that you actually think that way, but I just, you think actually somebody in today's climate, you think anybody can beat Trump in a Republican primary? I swear to God, I think sometimes, man, you wake up in the middle of the night and you think Donald Trump's standing over your bed or something like that.

It's not the boogie, man. The guy has, the guy has 85%, 90% approval rating in the Republican party. If not, if it's higher than that. What's DeSantis? DeSantis isn't doing well in Florida. I don't think you will know him on the national level. We ask you this, how much overlap do you think

Donald Trump's audience is with Ron DeSantis? How much overlapped? Meaning similar belief, similar value, similar, similar, how much overlapped. How much overlapped those policies? Very similar. Very similar. How much overlap do you think there is in Ron DeSantis's audience to Donald Trump's? Who has broader appeal?

Nationally? DeSantis. I said I would vote for DeSantis. I wouldn't vote for a Trump. So the one you said the 12% you just answered yourself. Who can I am? But I'm not in the Republican primary. Would you talk about Republicans? We have a thought that it was John Kessich who made it to the end of the last primary.

Yeah. Dude, no, that's, I mean, well, that's a traditional, you know, made-from-the-sweet-ask-republic. It was a great, a great-ho-ho. It was a great-ho-ho. It was a great-ho-ho. Every establishment, GOP, all the establishment, GOP moneyP all the establishment GOP money all the donors They're all gonna go set what do you think what do you think about whether he'll run yeah, no whether he can be Trump if he runs

I mean these the polls change all the time. It's hard to predict those things I as of night if it was held today. I don't think he can beat Trump You know we'll see what happens over the course of time. What else happens? I think the media has done a very good job of painting DeSantis as reckless and getting, when you go outside of Florida and people, when they hear about what's going on in Florida,

a lot of people think DeFloria is like, being like run into the ground by DeSantis. And he's just killing people. The media is doing a good job of that. Everybody's moving the floor. I think your way off, man. I got so many friends and family in New York and Jersey Connecticut.

They think we're on the Sanctus is running the promised land down. Yeah. Well, I mean, the number of people flooding here, I mean, part of that out. But to some extent, dude, I'm in Nevada. I'm in California. I'm in different places. Here's what everybody says.

Dude, how bad is Florida right now? I'm like, what do you mean? How bad is Florida? It depends on where they get their information. So just just just say there and by the way, the way you judge to me who is the real candidate is who the opposing side trash is more. Okay, so so check this out here. Check this out. This kind of validates his point, okay? Go to page six, go to page six, January six panel member floats 14th amendment as a way to bar Trump from holding office. This is a Washington examiner's story. Neither of Donald Trump's impeachment trials

led to his conviction, which would have prevented him from returning to the White House. Representative Jamie Raskin said, has another idea on how to bar the former president of Raskin suggests that the constitutional provision preventing those who engage in the insurrection as a rebellion from holding office may prevent Trump from becoming the president for a second, not consecutive term. Having lost the president of the House, Joe Biden, 2020 Trump has eligible for another White House term, polls show him the clear favor to win the 2024 Republican nomination if he runs. If they're people

who did participate in insurrection or rebellion, their constitution bar from holding federal or state office again, asking a member of the White House, select committee formed an investigation in general, so there's also another part of you know, for example, Donald Trump has already been determined to have participated in the insurrection of rebellion by the virtue of pitch. Okay, so you see where the story goes. Yeah, that's bad news for George Washington and John Adams, huh? Yeah, the place where I'm going with this is, where I'm going with this is, who is mainstream

media trashing the most today? That's who you got to look at as the number one. So I think this is the one guy I was watching Don Lemon and Chris Chris Cuomo the night Biden won when it was announced a Biden won. And you see Don Lemon's like, you look, I don't care, with you, you're with us because we won. And this is, you know, this is just very emotional. That's a very good Don Lemon, right?

Now, did you see Don, how he trashed Biden last night? I did. No, I don't hate myself enough to watch the movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was pretty bad. I mean, we're standing in a horrible week with the voting rights and the mask mandates. Uh, come on, man.

Worse week of a presidency could possibly have. It's been a terrible week for that guy. To the point where Don comes after you and mainstream media comes after you, so. Charlemagne the God. Yeah, this babbel on B fake news you can trust claims Kamala Harris is so bad Hillary Clinton made a dangerous website. Yeah, so I don't know if you know that side or not So the point is who the hell is gonna run on the other set. We still can't come up with a name on that side Shalom Obama we What a name on that side. I don't know, Michelle Obama, we just spoke that last time.

We'll see. Anyway, so that's the part with Trump's story. Let me go to another. Hillary Clinton is considering losing again. Is there, I mean, is there no shame with this January 6th stuff? I mean, is there just no shame whatsoever? They're just, they found their narrative,

they're sticking to it. And this almost goes to what you were saying before, Pat, like you could fool people some of the time and not all the time. There's so many Democrats that I know. I mean, I grew up with nothing but Democrats. And as soon as they compared this to 9-11, everybody around us was like,

what, coming in? Well, what's up now? So I'm saying to you, what's loyal to you? It's all the loyal to you. It's all the loyal to you. You know, you have to know that there is, your parents, you ever seen your parents are like, okay, yeah, I don't know mom.

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. Yeah, that, I don't know if we're going that far. No matter, when a bad argument is presented, you're gonna sit there, you're gonna say, listen, I know I'm a Democrat, I'm a registered Democrat, my entire life I've owed a Democrat, I disagree with it. It's say 9-11, this is a complete different story.

They've lost their mind when they go to a different angle. Anyways, let's go to one story here, cowboys, they lost. Again, can you pull up that stat that we have on the amount of victories, the amount of victories the Cowboys have? Did you see that the last 25 years? So here's a question for you. Before you pull it up, I want to see what he's going to say. I'll send you the, what do you call it?

I'll send you the tweet to put up there. How many victories do you think the Cowboys have had? Playoff victories since since 25 years the last 25 years. When Barry does that go far enough back to the very Smith and yes, after the after they 25 years, 25 years, how many playoff wins do you think the Cowboys have had in the last 25 years? Tyler, I'm gonna text it. Matter of fact, just go to my Twitter profile. How many playoff victories you think they've had in the last 25 years. Tyler, I'm going to text it. No matter how much I just go to my Twitter profile. How many playoff victories you think

they've had in the last 25 years? 25 years. In the last 25 years, how many is it? A handful. Go the other way. So you said a handful, right? Go the other way. Go the other way.

Is it five? You said five. Yeah. Okay, go a little lower, little lower, little lower, little lower. If it's not that way, maybe it's the opposite way. I don't know. Go the other way. Up, go up, go up, go up, go up, go up, go up go up go up check this out You're about to be blown away. Don't click on that click on that The Cowboys have had three victories in playoffs 25 years calling cavernics got four

Guys Brad Johnson Mark Sanchez Mark Sanchez ran into his lineman's got four trend bill for five Jake If you asked a hundred NFL fans who Jake the Lomasis they can tell you played for oh the Panthers man Carolina pay you were the center ball five I understand but five more than the Cowboys the last 25 years so now here's the question What what Stephen A Smiths have in the time of his life, okay, yeah, these guys all your wrong people thought this was gonna be the year That got the money okay a lot of people thought this is their year that they could do something. That got his money, that got some really good games. I think he broke Cowboys Record with 37 touchdowns. In 17 games, what are you saying?

Yeah, 17 I'm sure, that's a good point. But I think he missed a game. I don't know if he missed a game or something like that. Yeah, so it's really 16 games. Very true. Yeah, so you gotta give him the credit that he did that. What the hell is going on with these guys last 25 years what is it any any

any you can now say it well it wasn't me you know i'm gonna give you an answer and i'm gonna have a hard time defeating this okay because in the past 40 years yeah you said there's been uh... you know three two Republican, two Democratic presidents, three Republicans.

We've had Reagan, we've had Bush, we've had Clinton, back and forth back. Back and forth back. Who's been the one constant? And it's been Fauci, has it not? Yeah, yeah, I agree. In the past 25 years, who's been the one constant? It wasn't Jimmy Johnson, it wasn't very Switzerland. It's a German for the C.E.L.

It wasn't Jason Garrett. Jerry Jones, you're 85 year old, old ass. You're out of touch, buddy. Time to take a move. Time to stop running the team, turn it over to somebody else. He is the one constant. If the cowboys make too much money, make, wait, wait. If the cowboys actually want to...

We need to tax it. That's really good. If the cowboys actually want to get over the hurdle, Jerry Jones got to go. You know, do you have any other... Dude, I just think it's like, it's true. If the Cowboys actually want to, you know, get over the hurdle, Jerry Jones got to go. I, you know, do you have any other, dude, I just think it's like it's just one of those like the legacy media. It's like the cow, you know, I saw one tweet that was from barstool that was hilarious. This is a rough year for the Cowboy Yankee Laker fan. It's a tough one for him, dude. It's a, you know, know there's there's so many franchises that are just famous for being famous. Like Notre Dame is on every Saturday they haven't won anything. You know the Cowboys,

America's team, they haven't won in a generation man. It's like these are the these are the they did dominate the 90s. But you know, yeah, and Game of Thrones was amazing for six seasons. So let me ask you this. So let me ask you this. Okay. So I had this conversation with, what is a pen? Pen Tom Pen? Is it Tom Pen? Yeah, the NBA.

NBA, what do you this happened? When you was a cap special. A salary cap. I had him on. I said, and he was a president of L.A.F.C. The soccer team. He was a president of that team. He's a numbers guy.

He's a numbers guy. So I said, who's the most important is that is that the David Beckham one? Yes, okay. I said so who is the I think so I may be wrong Alex that's the The So they were back up here in Miami. Yeah, David I can't wait for LA They was the guy over here upset at David. He's awake when they bring a soccer David's gonna

Stumber me out. You got a few different things here, okay? To build a championship team. You got the owner, you got a GM, you got a coach, you got a superstar. Which one are they missing? None, that's the whole point. Ooh, the cowboy. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, If the cowboys get Bill Bella check to go there with things change Well Bill Bella check can't turn a franchise around but to your credit to your Wait a minute, but wait a minute so if Patrick Behomes is traded for Prescott our things gonna change Dallas had the number one offense in the league and most turnovers in the league

They were a good team this year and they just shit the bed per usual right? It's Jerry John you know what it is? Maybe they just need to say J18 to you stadium And they thought about staging the stadium. They just got bad jujube Who's the GM of the Cowboys himself? Exactly. I thought Steven Jones. No, it says it says owner and General manager of operations is to step aside. I agree. Let's get some young Junes isn't a well going bring the same the Fauci needs to step aside Trump needs to step aside Biden should run again. Let's get all these old-ass Baby boomers out the door have a great life. We still love you. Let's get some

Millennials and Gen X is that a campaign speech because you're running 24-23-24 vote for Adam. Let's go Adam is what's gonna happen. By the way, this Thursday, this Thursday, this Thursday, Rashad Evans will be here on the podcast. Yeah, we're gonna have a lot of different conversation about the UFC cannot wait for that folks put in your calendar same time. Thursday, Rashad Evans will be entering the vault. Having said that, Seth, appreciate you

for coming on this with the Vlad, man, appreciate you, take care everybody. Bye bye, byebye, bye-bye, bye-bye. Thank you.