PBD Podcast - Chad Bianco: Trump Snub, Cartel Crimes & California’s Corruption Crisis

Episode Date: May 28, 2026

Patrick Bet-David sits down with Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco to discuss California’s governor race, Trump’s endorsement of Steve Hilton, cartel-driven fentanyl trafficking, human trafficking operations, election investigation disputes, and the political battle over crime and corruption in California.------🗳️ BIANCO FOR GOVERNOR: https://bit.ly/3RyKXRy

Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so close like it takes sweet bit of dirty. I know this life's meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signs. Right here. You are a one of one?

My sun's right there. I think I've ever said this before. So we had the, you know, the gubernatorial candidate, Steve Hilton on last week or two weeks ago. And my phone blown. You and I have been going back and forth. Everybody said, Pat, you cannot have Hilton on without having Chad Bianco. I said, we're in talks. We're in talks.

So we're finally doing it today. So I'm glad to have you here as well to have the conversation. You have a big fan base, a lot of people that love you and support you. And I thought about it. I said, look, I want to start off getting right into with a hard-hitting question. And I don't know how you're going to handle this. You may get upset, but I want you to be okay with it as we're going through it. Do you think when you think about the history of California with the governors they've had,

Do you think California is ready? Because it's been a while for a potential Republican governor with a full-blown handlebar mustache. You think California is ready for it? They are. You think they are? I think that it's exactly what people are looking for. They want that handlebar mustache.

Yes. And not only the mustache, but it's the, it kind of is the synonymous with sheriff part. Got it. It's the sheriff that's appealing. because what's wrong with California, what people are sick and tired of in California, is the same career, disingenuous politicians.

So then I got a trivia question for you. How good already had Jeopardy? Probably not good. Probably not good. The man is honest. Okay. Who is the last governor in California that had a handlebar mustache?

Oh, wow. Do you know this one? No. It's in the 1800s. Really? It's late 1800s. His name was Henry Gage. I think you need to know this kind of stuff.

I'm going to have to know it now. Yes, if you want to pull up, Henry Gage, California governor, look at this mustache. And I think you got him beat. I like it. I think that's a good mustache, but he's the last California governor with that kind of a, when you think about mustache, there's something manly about it, right? Tom Select mustache, you probably didn't know we're going to go in this direction, but Tom Select mustache, legendary, right?

I think Cheech and Chong, which one was it? Cheech Merrin had a legit mustache. and, you know, look at that. Not that one, the bottom one right there. Look at that. That's a ridiculous mustache. Dennis Eckersley had a piece. That's California, that's right.

Raleigh Fingers had a good mustache. That's also California, right? He played, was it? Oakland? Yeah, so did Dennis Eckersley? So there's something about this mustache situation that we got for you to go out there and become the governor. So, okay, in regards to today, I mean, there's a lot of things where your story will get to.

We have plenty of time. But, uh, I, saw something about Trump endorsing Hilton. He came on the podcast the day after being on the podcast, Trump endorsed him. And I heard a couple different things from you on the endorsement of Trump endorsing Hilton. I heard on one end, of course, I would want the endorsement, but I also heard one other part where you said, the endorsement of Trump actually hurts you as a Republican in California. What are your thoughts on that? Absolutely. So, I mean, it's the president of the United States to get his support, his endorsement, I mean, for a personal perspective,

that's amazing. But it's California. And whether anyone likes it or not, I mean, we love our president, most of us there, some of us there, but California does not. He's ran three times statewide as he's running for president, and he's lost 6040 in the state of California, which says that not only is it just, Democrats that are voting against him. So are the independents and Republicans. So the whole Trump derangement syndrome is actually real in California. And I would even say that it's worse than maybe most states. Why is that? Why is that? I don't know. Because we're predominantly Democrat. Everything about the government is supermajority. And all they hear on the news all day

long is it's Trump's fault. Everything is Trump's fault. Even during Biden, they blamed Trump's So it's just, it is absolutely bizarre. These campaigns, if you watch the debates, every single one of them, in every question that was asked to them, Trump's name came up. And Trump has absolutely nothing to do with California. Yeah, and I saw that in the debates. Every time they were asking, it's Trump's fault, it's Trump's fault with you and Katie, which looks like you guys became very, very good friends by the end of it.

But going back to California, you think it's a part of a, like I was watching, Pierre Poliyev, I was very critical of the guy who ran in Canada, the conservative. I don't know if you know who he is or not. He ran in Canada. And it was always during the campaign, he didn't want to go and do any interviews. He refused to go to Joe Rogan. He refused to go to a lot of the bigger podcasts in America that invited him down. And it was like, no, in Canada, you have to be careful. And, you know, Democrats in Canada, they're not going to be supporting. And then now he's finally going out there and talking to other people. Do you think California Republicans have to almost act like they're semi-liberals to have a chance of winning?

Or do you think California Republicans just need to have a backbone and say, look, this is what we stand for. Your policies are broken. The Democratic Party in California has some sort of a Stockholm syndrome where you guys keep re-electing the same people that are destroying your state, and it's time to try something else out. What do you think is the right strategy for the Republican candidate? It's more along those lines.

And I think that even Democrats are looking for that. And I'm not talking about the far-left Democrats. I'm talking about the middle of the road, just a normal, regular middle-of-the-road Democrat. Throughout this campaign, if you go back to the beginning of this campaign, I was the first Republican that announced that I was going to run. Steve announced three months later, two or three months later than I did. February 25, he won April or April of 25.

There were already a dozen Democrats at the time. There were a lot more talking about it, but nobody knew who they were. There were prominent Democrats, a dozen of them. If you go back to that time until now, every single one of them have changed their stances on things, except for me. I haven't changed probably in my life. My conservative stance, my view of government, my position, even in what I do, is outside of politics. I'm just a common sense, right and wrong, public servant, problem solver. Just go answer an emergency, fix the emergency, and move on to the next emergency.

So everything that I have said has been the exact same stance from February until today. And every other person has changed. And I'm not sometimes when I talk, depending on who I'm talking to, I say that I've already changed politics in California. Because I even have Democrats repeating the things that I have said from the very beginning because it's resonating all across. the state. And I think what people are looking for is just someone that they know is telling them the truth. They know I'm not BSing them just for a vote. Yeah. And so then why do you think, even though you started two months earlier, why do you think Steve Hilton is polling better than you are? Well, the polls now aren't real. The polls now are only to get your vote or your money. They're,

they're push polls, they're bought and paid for by candidates. And right now, it is from January on, Everything is about the candidates trying to vie for who you're going to. You really think that there's multiple polls to look at, and he's leading all of them as a Republican candidate for California. You think they're all fake? I don't want, no, they're not fake. They're strategically designed. There are 800 people at the most you might find one that maybe touches close to a thousand. statistically a poll is supposed to have something like 2,230 something to be considered a valid statistic.

But none of these ever are. Some of them are 400, 400, 800 people. And if you're traveling the state of California, that's not what California is talking about. That's not what the media is talking about. That's not what comments on media podcasts are. It is different. And then the thing with these polls, they're pulling the same people all the time. It's likely voters.

Well, what's happening in California is it's not going to be likely voters. The people who don't vote, the 40 to 60 percent who don't vote are finally saying, enough is enough. We have to come out and vote. So let's look at a couple of these. Which one is this one, right? Create strategies. We'll go through a few of them, right?

That one has Hilton 22, Bessera 20, Steyer, 14, Bianco 13. So the part as a person who's a Republican that would like to see a Republican winning, if I combine U.N. Hilton and Bacera and Steyer, there would be at 34, you guys would be at 35 on this poll, which means Republicans in this poll could beat Democrats top. And of course, Porter, all the other guys, we know where they roll up. Go to another poll. And I want to put something out there. These are paid for, even though it's create strategies, but it's paid for by Bacera.

So you have. Emerson is paid for by Bacera? This poll was. I mean, you can go to anybody to do the poll, but it's the candidate or the Democrat Party that's paying for the poll. Well, there's one thing that doesn't lie. One thing that doesn't lie is cash and where people bet, right? Which is the betting market. So if you go to Cal She, go to Cal She and look at the California governor race on Cal Shee,

and this here shows Bacera at 58%, Steyer at 29%, Hilton at 10.1. want to go a little bit lower. Bianco's at 3%. Okay. Now keep in mind, this isn't, nobody can manipulate this because this is $36 million of volume that's been paid for. How much credibility does you and your camp give to a Cali-Ship poll like this? None. Really? None. None. Those aren't, you have no idea where those are coming from. Those aren't California voters. Okay. Those are people from all over who believe that California is never going to change. They're not traveling the state, talking to everybody all across the state. Even Democrats.

They're not going out and talking to Democrats. They're just going in there and saying Democrats are never going to, or Democrats are always going to win California, and they're placing their bets on who the polls are saying. Tom Steyer is influencing all of his. It's all of his money. $200 million he spent, $197 million. And he does it on this too.

So he can influence. So these are. You think Tom Steyer's putting money into Cal Shee? Absolutely. They've been talking about this forever. And what's the other one? There's another one that's... A polymarket.

Yeah. He's doing that one too. And you put a bunch of money into it, and then it's just a... It's just where is the money going and who's betting on it, so then it changes the odds. I mean, it's just... It's no different than a horse race. Got it. So you're not giving any credibility to this, because the combination of the two of you is a very

attractive combination. You and Hilton, very attractive combination. Your strength is going to be border. law crime, no question. There's not even a question. Like I have my friends, you sat down with a couple of my friends in Bakersfield with one of my good friends, Ricky Aguilar, who is one of our leaders in the insurance company. You guys had a great conversation because the crime that's going on in California. And in Hilton, you know, being more of a popular, you know, people have known them on TV. So that recognizability sometimes is all that matters, to be honest with you.

Roger Stone said 40 years ago, half the battle of picking somebody. Is this this guy? known, is he popular? Do people know his name or do they not know his name? They didn't necessarily know your name come two years ago. The average person we talked about Chad Bianco, they don't know who Chad Bianco is. Steve Hilton, they did Fox News, you know, he worked with David Cameron. And then for him, he's more the finance guy. But if it came down to it, June 2nd's the day, okay, June 1st, let's go to June 1st. Today is May 26th. What would cause you on June 1st, on numbers and polls, vice versa, you versus him, him versus you, what would cause you to say, look, I'm going to make the phone call,

there's no reason for me to stay here, I would much rather support this to go to Hilton, so we can at least have a Republican in the top two versus having a top to being a Democrat so that conversation can stay there for California. What would cause you to say on June 1st, you would entertain that idea? Nothing. So nothing. Nothing.

The time for that was March 3rd. Not now. I guarantee you that the Democrats are going to vote for Swalwell. Swalwell's probably going to get around probably between maybe 4 and 7% of the vote, and he's not even in there. You can't take your name off the ballot. People have already been voting for three weeks. So you dropping out, you don't think that's going to help the Republican Party of California?

Now? No. Okay, so let me give you different stories. June 3rd, we find out the top two gubernatorial candidates, in California that are running for the general is Bacera and Steyer. Do you take some responsibility for Republicans losing? Okay. When I sell my business, I want the best tax and investment advice.

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at fight for brainhealth.ca. It's a yes and a no. It's California in general because that's exactly what this poll is meant for. In January, you have to look at politics and how you run politics.

In January, all of last year, there were 18 polls, 18 good polls, from May to November, end of November. And I was number one and 15 of them. January of last year. From May of last year, to November of last year.

Okay, got it. I was number one. I was already in it. Oh, yeah. And I was number one in all of them. Nobody said anything. Emerson wasn't publishing anything. They were all, if you look at Hilton's expenditures, he paid for a ton of polls.

Why didn't he publish them? Just because you pay a poll for a poll doesn't mean it goes out. It only publishes if you like the results of the poll, and that's what you want people to influence. I wish people knew how dirty politics are. There's nothing real. Walk us through that. There's nothing. So you pay for a poll.

Okay. You try and get the results that you want. If you don't get them, you keep them hidden, and then you try and change things. If you get the results that you want, then you publish it and say, look, I'm ahead. Or look, I'm number two. I need more money so I can overtake number one. But then we get to January, and everyone knew I was in the lead. So what happened?

Hilton changed his entire campaign to just attack me. His entire goal is to attack me because I was the one that was going to win. The Democrats know I'm going to win. mailers that are going out to people or emailers going out for fundraising name me not Steve Hilton they don't want me in November because that public safety aspect the crime the corruption the honesty the integrity the leadership that is going to win this election over career politicians who have put us in this place in the first place so from January until now Steve Hilton's entire campaign was attack Chad Bianco because I can't beat him so we have to somehow diminish him

and then you do it with these polls. Even when you look at the polls that are coming out now, you add them up and it's 65, 70% Democrats. That is just an impossibility. In California right now, 65 to 70% people voting for Democrats on these polls is an absolute impossibility. We're being influenced for the lower Democrats,

the Katie Porter supporters, the Villarigosa supporters, to say, oh my gosh, two Republicans are going to go to November, so you have to change and you've got to vote for Bacera. And Steyer's just using his own money to get his name out there for people to vote for him. So they're trying to change and get Bacera. So they put him there to get Democrat vote. But at the same time, they don't want people voting for me.

So put Chad low and then convince Republicans that they have to change and vote for Steve because a vote for Chad isn't going to matter. So now Steve is that number two person instead of Chad. and then they went in November. Steve has, and it's unfortunate because I don't not like Steve, other than the lies that he's been saying about me for six months, but he's saying all the right things, whether or not he's going to do it, that's a different story. What are the lies he said about you?

Just the negative, the smear campaign about me, the amnesty part, the kneeling for BLM, he has to attack my honesty and my leadership ability with law enforcement because I'm a nationwide leader of law enforcement, which I earned, and I don't, I mean, I'm not patting myself on the back. That's what, because of COVID, because of the one, 60-something percent. Because of the riots, yes. I earned a very, very good reputation in law enforcement for leadership.

And so he has to attack that. No, there's specific things that you became a national hero when you were the first sheriff during COVID that didn't agree for the lockdown. If I'm not mistaken, right? That was the first time where people are like, who is he? Right. And doing it in, you didn't do it in Texas. You didn't do it in Nevada. You did it in California, which was the strictest one to go through.

So you got that name. But somehow, some way, even though you led last year from May to November and not now, today Hilton's ahead. And there are a lot of people, quite frankly, like the voters outside who are Republicans or the people in California who are maybe independent or some of the, the Democrats that are Kennedy Democrats, because there's different Democrats today. You got the AOC Democrats, Bernie Democrats, you know, you got the old school Democrats, who maybe an 80s, 90s Democrat is a center right today, right?

Trump was a 80s Democrat, if you think about it. He's probably center right today. He's not a hardcore, you know, Republican Democrat. But if the polls are saying, Chad, respectfully, we're citing with Hilton. If we believe the polls, we would have just stayed home and not voted for Trump. Trump was not ahead in any polls. Kamala Harris was ahead in all the polls. If 2016, it was supposed to be Hillary Clinton.

10 days before the election, Hillary had a 13-point lead. 10 days before the election. We should have just stayed home then, if that's the logic. Polls in politics are nothing but to get your vote or your money. They're not real. It's unfortunate that people believe them. They're not real. Politics is the most disgusting, dishonest.

I don't want to say job industry that there is. And it truly is an industry. It's run by an entire industry. From top to bottom, people are making money off of me coming and asking you for money. You give me your money so they can all spend it. And then we try and manipulate people to vote for us so we can get an office and then what are we going to do to stay there. And nothing, it's not real. There's nothing real.

And why are you doing it? To change all of this. To change all of this. I'm doing it. Because it is exactly opposite of what my career is. My career is based on short honesty. I mean, I probably have one of the, if not the, only career that you can get fired for lying.

And we fire people all the time for lying. I wish politics were like that. Can you, to the average person who is not in Riverside County, I've been to Riverside a few hundred times because I had an office in Riverside. So I would always drive through the area. I would stay at San Bernardino. know. Some people that don't know, I think the first McDonald's was in San Bernardino,

by that one hotel that many presidents have stayed at. I don't remember the hotel's name. It's a beautiful old school hotel. Do you know which one I'm talking about? Well, the Mission Inn is in Riverside. The Riverside. Yeah, Mission Inn. And we've done so many events there. And when you walk in, they got pictures of everybody on the sites here and registration right there. So I have a lot of memories there. But as a sheriff, you know, of Riverside County, give us some of the things that you run into, whether it's what happened during election,

you know, the 600-something thousand votes, whether it's the types of crime you've seen, whether it's the types of people that are crossing a border that makes it all the way up to where you're at. Maybe give us the conditions of what it's like in California, specifically with Riverside County. At Riverside County, we're a big county, two and a half million people.

We're not a border county, but from a law enforcement and from a federal government perspective, we're considered a border county because of our freeway systems and we have checkpoints in our county. So even though I'm not, I'm one county away from our southern border, the border patrol and immigration and all those consider us a border county. So people-wise, demographic-wise,

were good representation of all of California. We've got big cities with 200, 350,000 people, 250,000 people. We've got numerous ones of those. We're resort communities and the entire Palm Springs, Palm Desert area is all resort communities, snowbirds. Massive farming from our southern border all the way through Riverside County is massive, massive farming. Mountain areas with snow. The demographics, I have everything. Lake Arrowhood is you? No, that's San Bernardino. So we have idle wild. We don't have a ski resort,

anything like that, but we've got mountain communities. Is Yucca Valley? Yucca Valley San Bernardino. Yucca Valley San Bernardino. Yeah. Got it. So we share a border that goes almost from the edge of L.A. They touch L.A. Can you pull it up, though, just to see the map?

And we share that border that goes all the way across over to Arizona. So San Bernardino is just right above us from right there. They go up. They're probably twice as thick as we are. And then we go, both of us go all the way over here to the Arizona border. All the way. Yeah. So it's a big, 7,800 square miles is what I have.

But we have the freeways that come in. We have the 15 that comes up from the south, the 10 coming in and they intersect in my county. So as far as drug trafficking, human trafficking, the open border that we had, we were the center of that because of the freeway systems. The 15 going up north across the country and the 10 going south across the country,

and then the 5 and the 15 that come up from San Diego. What are some things you saw? Like what have you seen from the, immigration, the border, the open order that we had under Biden, what are some things you experienced with people coming up to your county? We, well, it was massive, massive, hundreds and hundreds of thousand millions of people that came through the southern border and then got disseminated through the rest of the country from us.

But from a law enforcement perspective, massive amounts of drugs. Fentanyl is, fentanyl came from the southern border up into us and then disseminated throughout the rest of the country. human trafficking, whether it's labor trafficking or sex trafficking. But you have any cases? Like, you know, typically when I bring, I like to bring Sheriff Judd, Grady on, and he'll tell me story. Brady's a good man. Yeah, he's a good man.

But I have a lot of respect for what you guys do as sheriffs. It's not an easy job. But it's good for the audience to know what is really going on. Because not all of it makes into the news and they're not going to tell the news cycle. Give us some of the big cases that you experience. We have a, what I have built is a massive. massive human trafficking task force team. And so we've got tons of people in my department that, but then we operate also with task forces and we bring them into. But that was,

that was since I took over. That's been a, that's been a heart thing for me is trafficking kids, sex trafficking. And so I built that to where now my guys are traveling the country, teaching others what we're doing, what we're looking for. And we have a little different aspect because we don't, we don't want to get, we can if you want, but human trafficking, sex trafficking, trafficking, prostitution and all of those things, they call it a blade. A blade is where you can go, and this is, it's blocks and blocks of where the prostitutes are hanging out, the pimps are all hanging out. We don't have any of that in our county, so we're very, very unique. So ours is all resort-based or hotel-based or event-based, and a lot of people aren't like that. It's easy to

find where your human trafficking victims are if they're all concentrated in one area and they're walking the streets, but ours isn't like that. So we get that experience from others through San Diego or Los Angeles, but then they're not getting that experience of where what we have, that you're not, you can't just go look for the blade and then try and find these victims. You actually have to go out and try and find them. So it's a little bit unique and it's caused because of the freeway system. The 10 and the 15 are just massive transportation routes for for these girls and boys that are being sex trafficked. And that goes through my county.

So we have a big part of that. And then the drugs are the same thing. So it's the same freeway system. It's the biggest bust you've had for human trafficking or drugs? I don't know about the biggest. I mean, we arrest people with tons of fentanyl. Do you see that? Is it weekly?

Is it monthly? Oh, we get, we're having hundreds and hundreds of pounds. weekly. Fentanyl getting caught. Oh yeah. That's not what's, yes, hundreds of pounds weekly. And is it by five people? Is it by 50? Is it by 100? How many different cases? Accounts for the hundreds of pounds? Probably 10. Okay. Probably 10. Do you notice a pattern of who's typically doing it in what area, tie to who? Yes. I mean, we have we have patterns of what we look for. It's an art. The people that we have trained in finding this, it's not only the undercover guys that are out with CIs and trying to find information. It's utilizing those freeway systems

and the roadways, and we call it interdiction. And this is a nationwide thing, but we're one of the biggest interdiction teams. And it's about, it's, I don't want to say, it's profiling. I mean, you're looking at things on the road, but it's, it's, we're training, deputies to notice things, patterns that are different on the roadway. And sometimes it's even funny about whether you break when you see a cop or knowing what a car is supposed to look like, but it's tilted. You're just seeing it. Yes. So it's got, it's got 500 pounds of methamphetamine in the back axle. It's going to ride different than a regular car that doesn't have that. And they're

just things that we look for. And they're good. They're good. It blows me away when they do it. You know, I sit with them and they're like, oh, that one, and we'll go stop it, and sure enough. Sometimes it's empty, and whatever it was that they keyed on, we found the

compartment, but it was empty, but we know that they were either involved in it, and then we'll follow them, we'll put trackers on. Is it tied to a certain gang? Do you notice? It's cartel. It's not a gang. Yeah, it's cartel. I mean, it's cartel. I mean, there are sometimes during the Biden administration when human trafficking was so prolific, the cartels made more money off of humans. So they actually allowed gangs, even non-Hispanic gangs, to take over the drug trade.

They still controlled it south of the border, but they were allowing the gangs to go get it, transport it, and get it into the country and disseminate it because the cartels were making more money off of humans. But that changed. As soon as Trump came in and locked down the border again, it all went back. So now it's a cartel that has all of the drug trade again. What interaction have you had with the cartels yourself? Myself, none. I mean, when I was a deputy, we would arrest people that we knew were cartel members. Unfortunately, I mean, this is a bad thing for me.

People use it as a bad thing. I think it's a good thing because we're the ones that arrested them. But we arrested one of our own employees that we end up finding out is related to a very high-up cartel member. himself by association and everything else was was running drugs running fentanyl for the cartel. As a cop himself. He was a very young kid. And when looking back, he had zero, nothing negative in his background.

And it's almost one of those things where you have to ask was this on purpose? Did they purposely do it? Alistigera. Roca, yeah. September 200, transporting 104 pounds of fentanyl pills. Yeah. And his uncle, and we ended up talking to his mom and everything else, the mom was extremely, extremely disappointed.

She knew what her family was into, but she thought she had shielded her kid from it. But his uncle had hooked him up, and they had become business partners, I guess. And in our investigation, we let it go for a little bit to make sure we have to figure out if there's more. We have to figure out what he's doing. And it didn't have anything to do with the jails.

It was it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was it was, it was, it was going to, and trafficking. And so we ended up taking him down. How did he get caught him? We stopped him. We stopped it's an, it's a, there's, we do great work in drug investigations. So we knew that he was going to pick up a load of fentanyl did one of your own leak it or did one of the informants or did one of your guys that it's working undercover leak it?

It was a combination of one of our guys in a federal investigation. So we had one of our guys on a federal task force, and they came up with the possible, so they gave it to us. And then we looked into him ourselves outside of that other investigation where he was identified. And in this case, with the 520,000 pills, how much money was he going to make off this? Is it a buck a pill, 50 cents a pill, 10 cents a pill? It's probably 10 bucks a pill. So he was going to make $5.2 million? Oh, he wouldn't.

You know what? He's making, I have no idea. I mean, he, his uncle was probably making a boatload of money because he was pretty high up in the cartel. He was a high up person. In the states or in Sanaloa? In the States. Did he also get caught, the uncle? By someone else.

That was a different investigation. So that, and that's how usually how drug investigations work. they they're it's not just one investigation that you try and find everybody it's it's we're doing this investigation and we identified possibly this kid so they notify us and then we start doing that but there were other people doing it it's spiders it's a big spider web a drug investigation is not one just one little thing looking for one single person it's probably in one this investigation probably had there was probably several hundred law enforcement officers either local or federal that we're working in this investigation how big it was. And how does he not know that they're

watching them for him not to screw off? Well, that's our role or that's our job is to make sure we don't get caught while we're trying to catch them. They're trying to get away. We're trying to catch them. But it's one of your guys. It's one of your deputies. It's one of our deputies. Yeah, Grady had a similar case as well as one of his deputies they had to go catch. And it was, he's same thing. He had calls parents. It's got to be a tough job when it's your own guys. And this guy was a younger guy. It was in his mid-20s. Yeah, and everything in his background, he was a great kid. He had a great upbringing.

His mom raised him well. He was a fantastic employee. It was a complete shock to his peers and his supervisors when we arrested. How long is he facing now? It's a 10-plus? It should be. For 520,000 pills, 100 pounds. Yeah.

I haven't been paying attention to the court case. And that's a bad part about the justice system. Unless you take a deal, it goes, it takes forever. Unless if you take a deal, it takes forever. Okay. So for someone like you as the sheriff who opposed what Biden was doing, oppose what Newsom was doing, the AG is not a fan of you, obviously, you know, Bcerra. Our AG is an embarrassment to law enforcement.

But how do you maneuver, how many times that they try to destroy your life and hurt you? or it's just kind of like we find a way to coexist together. So no, we don't exist. I will never try and coexist with them. They're corrupt. And my mission is to provide the best right now, as the sheriff of Riverside County, they elected me to provide the best law enforcement I possibly can. The cheapest, the most cost effective, the most, and keep them the safest I possibly can.

So it's my mission to figure out how we're going to do that. because of COVID and me standing up to the government, which was in California, it's I stood up to Democrats. It's not everything in California, especially when you get to there. It's all about politics. It's Democrat versus Republican.

And they, even though I'm a nonpartisan race, you don't elect me as a Republican. You just elect me if you think I'm going to provide you a better service. But it became their mission to get rid of me. Why? Because they can't control me and they know they can't control me. I'm going to do everything in my power for the people that I represent, the people that elected me. I am not going to, they can't threaten me, they can't buy me, they can't do anything to make me go along with them if they're not doing the right thing. And that's what COVID was. You can't, you can't watch me or you can't, while I'm, watching you release tens of thousands of criminals into my neighborhood and then you're telling me to go arrest some girl because she wants to go work at a restaurant to keep food on the table

for her kid because she violated your stay-at-home order. There's something very, very wrong with that. How can they make your life a living kill? Well, they're just, they're trying to get me out of office. So it's basically it's it's it's all of the lies that they're going to that they're going to bring up about me. And it's it's it there was Nancy Pelosi had a great time when she was telling it was almost like a mic slip where she's explaining how this works. You you just make up these ridiculous allegations. You maybe throw a lawsuit into it and you get all of these things in the media. And then when you're running for election again, they're going to use that against me. They're going to say, oh look, look at all the jail deaths.

Look at this DOJ investigation for civil rights investigations that California DOJ is doing on him. And they just keep referring to the LA Times and then local rags that we have. And then people believe it. It's like, oh, my gosh, he's under investigation. Well, it's all fake. It was an ACLU fake letter that they sent the Attorney General. And the Attorney General says, oh, my God, it's so terrible. He's doing so many of these horrible things.

We're going to initiate a civil rights investigation into constitutional rights ongoing. Well, it's been three years now, and there's not one single word have we heard from the Attorney General because it's fake. They just want it in the news so they can refer to it again. When you and Bacera were on stage, what were the behind the scenes when the cameras weren't on? What was those conversations like? Specifically, you and Bacera? There's no, they're just cordial conversations. They're hi, how are you?

I don't really engage with any of them. I have nothing to say to any of them, especially him. He was our attorney general, very, very, very dishonest. If you couldn't see that he's dishonest just from the way he won't answer or what he does answer during the debate, he's just not an honest person. He is the typical career politician that will say anything for a vote. And most of the, and he's good. He's an attorney.

So he knows how to talk. He knows how to answer something for five minutes without answering it. And then you're done. And you're like, oh, that was a good answer, but he really didn't answer you. So while I respect them for what they've been able to accomplish, getting elected over and over and over again, they've still harmed us. So I don't want to be friends with them. I'm not friends with any of them, but I'm at least, I'm cordial. I mean, it's easy to say, how are your grandkids?

How are you doing? How's everything going? Are you busy? Who behind the stage, backstage, confronted or you confronted them? Was there anything that happened or it's cordial with everybody? It's always cordial. Katie, Katie's also cordial, you know. She's cordial.

She's just not a nice person. She's not a nice person. On camera or off camera, not a nice person. On camera, she's nicer on camera. She's playing for the cameras. That's not what she's like backstage. Can you pull up a clip here? Is this the one where you guys, the mad dog with each other?

Is this the one? Go ahead, Rob. I mean, I think we ought to enforce the existing sanctuary laws everywhere. So we don't have crazy cowboys taking the law into their own house. Tell that to a crazy mother who lost her child. Sir, I don't need any lectures from you about being a mother. Of course. You might.

Okay. So. Again? All you have done this evening is shout past me and not given me a chance to respond. That was obviously a scripted answer that didn't fit. But go ahead. But please, I'm sorry, everybody. No, I'm not going to be, excuse me.

Not for this. I'm not going to be lectured because I have not interrupted a single person. I understand, Congresswoman, you have the floor. What happened here right after the break? Did she come up to you? Did you go up to her? Oh, no. Nothing? No. You think she needs advice on being a mom?

Wow. It depends if you believe her ex-husband. You're talking about the potato situation? That and the divorce and all of the allegations of domestic violence and everything else. In front of kids. I mean, she's not a nice person. There was one event backstage where she acts like she wants everybody to believe that she's this leader and she can be calm and she wants everybody to believe that it's all the boys on the stage that are doing it's all an act for her to try and get support. But there was one instance behind stage. We were at a college.

It was the Pomona College one. It's a bunch of college kids that are putting this on. They've never done it before. They actually did a very good job. And it's all these polysci majors and everything else that are held. Cal Poly Pomona, which college was it? Yes. Okay.

And so we're there. They're lining us up. So this young girl, her only job was to line us up backstage so we could just walk out in order. Yeah. And so she's lining up. She lines up Bacera and then me and then we're going down. And it gets over to Katie and Katie was talking to someone. So she's like, Miss Porter and Katie turns around to her.

And I'm not exaggerating. Just with the most meanest look you can imagine. imagine and just the most sarcastic, we've got it figured out. And the little girl was just like shocked. So she turns around, she's like, okay, I'm sorry. And she turns around and walks, she's walking back by me now. And you can see just this defeated look on her face. And I touched her arm and I said, hey, you guys are doing a great job.

We appreciate everything you guys are doing back here. And she just smiled. She's like, oh, thank you. And she just walked away. But it's like, that's who she really is. That's the person we saw in her video where she's yelling at her. her staff. There is, we're in, she's right next door to me in my county. We know exactly who Katie Porter is and it's in throughout history, throughout her political history, she's the person

on the screen where she's yelling at her staff. That's her demeanor. That's her personality. And then I'll give you one more. When we left the final debate, we all walk off stage, we get there's a kitchen behind us so we get off stage and we're all like piling into this kitchen and she stopped she was first and everybody else is now piling as they're forcing us through there and she turns around and she says i don't care what any of you mfers think about me i'm funnier than all of you mfers but she said the whole thing and i'm like is she trying to be funny or she's serious that's her that's who she is that's who she is

wait she said that to Sarah very gross we were all trying to get through this doorway back into the kitchen behind stage after the debate was over and she stopped she was first I was right behind her

and then they were all behind me we were all getting funneled out because it was over and they had to redo the press so we could go back out and that's how she talks that's her demeanor but yet she wants you to believe something else

politics is there is nothing real about these politicians which is why I'm doing this and I even said that on stage for four debates we had there is one thing that is that is absolutely true with me and the rest of them is I'm not them every single one of them are career politicians except for Steyer Steyer is just a crazy what is he like what is he backstage he's very nice I mean he's easy to talk to he loves talking to me about that one of the questions that we had was what do you watch on TV and I don't watch TV. So I said I don't, there's nothing. And so afterward, he just, he can't believe that I don't watch marshals. I guess it's a show about U.S. Marshals. And he said, you, he's, every time he sees me, he says, are you watching the show yet?

He says, I can't believe you're not watching this show. He says, it's guys on horses, it's law enforcement. This is right up your alley. So, and that's, he's, he's funny. He's, he's easy to talk to. Very interesting. So he's actually an easy guy to deal with. He's, yes. They really, they all are. I mean, except for, except for Katie. But Sarah's even easy to talk to. He's very easy to talk to. He's very mild-mannered. He's very calm.

We talk, how are you doing? How's the campaign? Everything going well. It's all just small talk. I mean, they talk amongst each other because the Democrats, especially because they've known each other for years and years and years. So they obviously have more to talk about. I don't have anything to talk about. Do you and Hilton speak?

You guys, is there a relationship there? No. It's very cordial. It was probably a whole lot, well, it definitely was a whole lot better before January when he started attacking me. Did you approach him? Did you confront him with it and say, why are you changing a campaign approach? No. No.

I mean, we know why. We know why he did it. It's politics. It's just dirty politics. That's how politics work. You put up a clip about him as well seven days ago where it shows, you know, him having news Newsom's wife on. I think Jennifer Newsom he's interviewing while he was on Fox or the Antifa, $50,000. You know which clip I'm talking about. I think it's probably. So there are lots of,

there are lots of clips up there. And one of the things, I think I may have shared it or something, but then you also have to realize, and we do the same thing. We look and make sure that it's what's coming from Steve's campaign or what's coming from Steve's supporters. because anybody can make a Facebook page or an Instagram page and call it whatever they want. I mean, there's plenty of times where people have told me, you know, I sent a direct message to your campaign site and you didn't answer.

And then I find out that it's just some supporter in Northern California that made their own page. I have no idea who they are. But those things that are coming out about Steve, that's not me saying them. Those are the videos of Steve saying things. but people have to see it. Yeah. No, no, I get that.

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It is so basic, so easy, but it's being spun into something that it's not. There is an allegation. The allegation is that there is some type of election fraud happening. And it was based off the own records that people obtained public records from our registrar of voters. So in California, you know we have mail-in ballots. And they start, once they mail out the ballots, they start getting them back every day. And so every day they count the ballots that they receive that day.

And there's a running total of how many. any ballots go into the ROV. When you add up those daily logs, it comes up to 611,000. But when you add the yes and the no votes after the election was over, there's 46,000 more yes and no votes than there were even ballots. So that gets brought to us. So we start investigating. We go to the ROV, the registrar of voters, and we ask them, what's the discrepancy?

And they had no answer. No answer. They have no idea because it's their logs. And so in the end, they're like, well, it must be human air. Well, human error is not acceptable answer for a election fraud investigation. So it's obvious we have to determine which one is correct, the total votes or the total ballots. So the only way we're going to know is to count the ballots. So we take that information to a judge. The judge reads that information, that probable cause deck. And he agrees and says, yes, go get the ballots. Obviously, we have to count them. So when that happened, the Attorney General gets notified by the registrar of voters that we just serve them. No. The Attorney General now is Rob Banta. So Bacera is unemployed right now. He's just, he does nothing. And Rob Banta, who is Rob Banta's wife? She is an assembly member. It's the California corrupt couple. Yes. Yes. So it goes to Banta. So Banta immediately filed, well, immediately he sends me an email ordering me to stop my investigation. Okay.

Well, he can't do that. So I just ignored him. So a couple of days later, he sends me another email saying, you ignored my last email, and I'm ordering you to stop. Well, and then I acknowledged it because it said, you know, a demand at the bottom reply to this email, so I know you got it. So I responded and said, okay, I got it. and then he filed a lawsuit knowing that I was not going to stop that investigation. He filed a lawsuit and the lawsuit is not about the election, or the investigation. It's about him having the authority to order me to stop.

So that's what we're going to argue in court right now is whether or not he has the authority to stop a legal investigation. But the judge now has ordered everything stopped. They're ordering me that I can't count the ballots. so I can't count the ballots. That's how the law works. But this is all semantics because he doesn't want those ballots counted. And it doesn't matter who I talk to. I've talked to Democrats, independents, and Republicans.

When you put it out like that, everyone is like, well, why don't you just count the ballots? Exactly. Why don't you? Why does he not want those ballots being counted? But now we have to argue in court whether he has the authority to stop a legal investigation. And I think it's his wife that was trying to, that the staff, Nick Shirley Act. Yes, absolutely. So she went after Nick Shirley. So that's the couple here, the AG. So he's responsible for investigating and keeping our money safe and investigating all

the fraud, the abuse and the waste in California. He is right there. And now his wife is proposing a bill to get signed to arrest Nick Shirley for exposing the fraud that he is not investigating. You can't make this up. California could be a good movie. So then the question becomes, they're majority in legislative, their majority in everything in California. They have their AGs everywhere.

They have their district, DAs everywhere. Even if you are Hilton get elected, and I know both of you guys have said, well, through executive order, through executive powers, through executive powers, you're going to have your hands behind your back anyways. So how are you going to go up

against a monopoly that they have? in California. Yeah, not so much. So you have to, you look at him. He's just a political activist that was appointed by Newsom to fill an empty seat when the attorney general, when Bacera went to HHS, now we have an empty AG so the governor gets to appoint it. He appointed a corrupt politician to cover everything else that's going on in Sacramento. And then you have his wife, who is one of the leaders of the corrupt organization in the legislature, which is the assembly in the Senate. But there's only about 15 to 20 of them that are corrupt, that are far left, that are ideological activist agenda driven. 15 to 20 them that are corrupt? Yes, but they're running everything. I know,

but are they well-known names? Oh, yeah. So who are somebody's name? She's one of them. She's one, Bonta, who else? Both the, the speaker of the Senate, all of the ones that are in leadership positions. I mean, I'll throw one out because she's turning into be one of the worst. Clarissa Cervantes happens to be one of my representatives, or I'm sorry, that's her sister. Now I just lost her name. Sabrina. Sabrina Cervantes. And what they do is the people that are so embedded in the far left politics, they put them in the leadership positions where, so they're on they're the heads of committees or like the public safety. So she's corrupt. She is nothing but far left politics. I don't want to say she's corrupt. She's just going along with

agenda. And I'm probably using bad terms. I'm using my terms because I was told the other day, and it was funny, I was talking to Dinesh D'Souza and how he was describing it, I'm like, oh my gosh, no wonder I'm having a hard time with it. She believes she's right. She thinks I'm wrong. I just think she's wrong. She's going along with this far-left political agenda, and it's the agenda at all costs. And I believe that's wrong. That's not representing

everybody. So it's not that, I mean, if you ask her, she's not going to tell you she's corrupt. She doesn't think she is. She's just not operating within government, how government is supposed to be operating. Now, why do you say she's far left? What makes her corrupt

or what makes her the far-left person that she is? It's the progressive agenda. She is the progressive agenda. She is a face of the progressive agenda, the DEI. And I don't want to say too much about her because truth be told, before she started hating me, just because I was a Republican sheriff of COVID, I really liked her. She's a very, very nice person. She has a history throughout her assembly and Senate career that when a, because they have a supermajority, they are able to tell people who are in districts that are swing districts where she would be easily outvoted, she gets to step away from a vote.

So for instance, when California raised the gas tax several years ago, she didn't vote to raise the gas tax because she was at the time in a Republican district. So coming up on an election, there is no way in the world she would have got. got elected again. So they allow her to skip that vote. So she's a do not vote because they knew they had the votes to begin with. Rob, can you pull up this article here that Humberto sent you? You know which one I'm saying? So very interesting. I didn't know she is. So she is, she started, it's really her dad. Her dad is a driver of the Democrat politics in Go lower. Riverside County.

Go all the way down if you could. And she was a staffer for one of our supervisors now. Is that really her? Her and her wife? Yes. She's on the right. And those are their three kids. They had triplets. Yeah.

They had triplets. Yeah. Wow. So they procreated triplets together. I thought women and women can't make babies. Well, I don't know how they got them. Oh, okay. But I know they're married.

It's ironic that all the kids like the rainbow outfits. It is. To have on. I wonder what they'll grow up to want to be. We'll find it. We'll come back in 20 years. I'll make a note to come back in 20 years and to see where they're going to be with that. So she has a bill that she's trying to get signed right now through the Senate

that is to separate the power of the sheriff in the corner. So I'm the sheriff corner. And probably 20, 22 years ago, the state authorized counties to combine those two, what used to be two political units. You elected a coroner and you also elected a sheriff. And they allowed them to combine them for efficiency. So it's cheaper. But the biggest issue was there was all across the state.

There were tons of bad things happening within coroner's bureaus where people were having property stolen, watches stolen, jewelry stolen, investigations were getting botched, things like that. And because they're not cops, they actually don't have the ability to do in-depth investigations. death investigations. So it's natural to combine law enforcement and a coroner's office because now you have the same people doing the investigations. My God, I mean, that's what we do.

That's the biggest investigation we can do is a death investigation, a murder investigation. So right now they're trying to separate that only because even though counties don't want it, they want a bill that it's almost going to force them to do it. and it's only to limit the power of the sheriff because they figured out in COVID that the sheriff cannot be controlled. Police chiefs can be controlled politically. They can be fired today. But sheriff, you guys get elected.

And yeah, if you want me out, it's every four years. Every four years, you can unelect me. But there's also bills, we fight them every year. They want sheriffs elected in California. They want to change the Constitution. to say that we're not going to elect our sheriffs anymore, we're going to appoint them, let the board of supervisors, a political board appoint the top law enforcement officer.

And that's why we have it in the Constitution because you don't want politics involved in law enforcement. What's your interaction been with Newsom? Have you had any? Zero. Zero interaction with No. He hasn't called you, he hasn't paid you visit. No.

Is that normal? Absolutely not. It's never been normal through what any sheriff can, remember. And you have to remember, there's like two, three, four back sheriffs that are still alive, that still come to our meetings, and they've never experienced anything like this. So as far as anybody can remember, governors always come to our meetings. We have meetings every two months, all the sheriffs in the state. And the governor was always present. Or if the governor couldn't make it, he would send a representative to either get feedback from us, you know, that dialogue. In

And we, it's all across the state. So our meetings, we rotate all across the state. So historically, the governor of California would visit that meeting that you guys had every other month with the sheriff. Yes. How many total sheriffs does California have? 58. 58.

Okay. Historically it happens. How often is he at these meetings? Zero. He's never met with sheriffs. So when I started this campaign, that came out that we have a, we have a governor who does not engage with the number one issue that people care about in California. and that's law enforcement.

He and his decisions with our prisons are destroying our county jails, but yet he won't meet with us. The laws that he is signing into place that are allowing criminal activity to flourish in California, he won't meet with us to discuss them. The bills that are going through that we try and get to him because we know where they're going to pass and they're going to be on his desk, so we try and meet with him so we can tell them the consequences, the negative consequences, if he signs this bill. he absolutely refuses to meet with us. So when I brought this up after I started running for this position,

I made a comment on a show, on a news show, and that went completely viral because no one can believe that the governor doesn't have a relationship with law enforcement. And so he reached out to a small handful of sheriffs and said, come have a meeting with me. They arrived at his office. They said it was the biggest waste of time in the world. But all he did it for is so I can't say he's never met with us.

Because he did meet one time where he called five of them. It wasn't the leadership. I mean, we have currently, I'm the president of our Sheriff's Association in California. He's not going to reach out to me. He didn't reach out to the president at the time or any of the board of directors. He's hand-selected who he thought were going to be favorable to his position, which they're not. I mean, we have Democrats, we have Democrat sheriffs. They're supporting me. They're not supporting anybody else.

Yeah, I just pulled that up right now. What percentage of sheriffs in California are Democrats and Republicans? It says roughly 35 to 45 lean Republican, 10 to 20 lean Democrat. Does that sound about right? That sounds about right. Yeah. And even the Democrats, I'm assuming it's not leftists. It's more center leftist Democrats. Absolutely. Are there any leftist sheriffs? No. Is it possible to be a leftist sheriff? Not in California, because if you're a leftist, you're anti-law enforcement, you're anti-public safety.

That's just an absolute fact. Have they tried to campaign around somebody that would bring the leftist policies in as a sheriff? Yes, and they've even gone further. So my election used to be on the governor's cycle. In the midterms is when every sheriff in the state was elected at the same time. Our elections were all on the governor's cycle, which is right now.

So in 2022, they tried to change it because, and they specifically said, and it was joked in Sacramento, it's the Bianco law. Because of COVID, what I did with COVID, and then other sheriffs across the state started standing up too, they figured out we can't control the sheriffs. We need to get those people out. We need to get those, the right wing, the Republican sheriffs out. And so in California, they said that, and it's not even close, far more Democrats come out to vote for the presidential election than the governor election. It's just the numbers thing.

So if you go back in history, more people show up for a presidential election. And they vote Democrat. So they changed the law in California of when my election was going to be. And they moved it to the presidential cycle, which it should have been in the. 2024 election. But we immediately sued because we're in the Constitution. It's a four-year term that people elect us to.

And the judge ruled that you can't shrink our constitutionally elected term, so they had to add two years to it. So my 2022 election should have ended in 2026, but it really ends in 2028 now, which really, that's the only reason why that allowed me to run, because I would never give up my position as sheriff.

and run for governor instead of a sheriff election. So they are trying to, they are actively trying to get rid of Republican pro public safety sheriffs, just like DAs, just like they're trying to get very leftist DA's elected so they don't prosecute crime anymore. They don't want conservative Republican sheriffs because, we're trying to keep people safe and we were combating criminals and they

there's an enabling of criminals in California yeah I mean the DNA of a sheriff is I don't know what sport if they were to do a you know survey to see what sport

sheriffs played they probably played defensive coordinator they probably played defense football you know probably good, you know, infielders who are preventing the guy from scoring because it's the defensive protecting mentality, right? You almost have to, like, you got a few kids, right? One of the kids is always going to be overprivile. Like, I got one of my kids super protective. The other one is chill. But one of them is super protective. God forbid you do something. It's in the

instinct. So it's kind of hard to get the instinct of a liberal to have the true instinct of a protector. It's a different mindset they have than a true protect. And I would assume those are the guys that would want to become sheriffs. But you're fighting against the rest that are, you know, teachers that become teachers union in California. Those guys are like the mob, the amount of power and control they have. And they don't like people like you. No, not at all. And then even even the elected officials, if you look at a lot of our elected officials, they never had, they didn't have jobs to begin with outside of politics. They got out of college, they got in, they were a staffer for somebody, they did that for several

years, then got on a local elected board and then progressed through that, and then now they're just career politicians. There are not too many Democrats in California that were successful business people that decided they were going to now run for political office. They were attorneys that never practiced law that went to law school and then got into politics. It's... You live in California, so you see a lot of this stuff. 20-28 is around the corner. Newsom's going to be won the candidates. A lot of people

say he's the leading guy. I think AOC is going to be competitive as well. There's a lot of other names that are coming up. What do you know about Newsom that the rest of America doesn't know that they should? He's a lying fraud. Everyone in California knows that. I mean, he gets up and he goes on these podcasts or he goes across, does a tour across the across the states and talks to town halls or something in other states and talks about California and it's like what is he talking about that's not what we are that's not who we are that that isn't even what life is like here but he is and and he's good I will tell you this I don't like him at all he is a very disingenuous dishonest narcissist but there might not be a better politician

he is a he is a talker he can talk his way out of anything and and he's good at it so i have to give him that he's definitely a fantastic politician but i'm hoping that people are sick and tired of politicians there's nothing he says is true i mean when when he when he when he says that he's lowering homeless in california i mean where when he says how you know what a great job san francisco was that he cleaned up San Francisco. Where? One weekend, just because you went in and you moved them all to the outside, hosed down the streets so you could let the Chinese president drive through, and then it tried to make China think, and then the rest of the country think that San Francisco

was okay again? It wasn't. The next weekend, it was back to trash. He's just completely dishonest. How would you fix homelessness problem? I mean, this guy had $24 billion. Very easy. Well, there's no information. intent. The people who we call homeless, what we see on the street, living on our sidewalks, living under overpasses, they are nothing but pawns in this homeless industrial complex money laundering

scheme. That's all it is. The money gets distributed to nonprofits and NGOs, and it stops one or two levels down. It doesn't get down to here where the homeless are, where they're suffering. They don't care about them. They are nothing but pawns, and if you really look into it, where that money is going, they have, they call them body brokers to travel the country, bring people into Los Angeles into, so they can milk their medical, their Medicare and everything else. And as soon as it's done, they just kick them out the door and now they're living on the street. And that's a business because they're getting money for their nonprofits. They're also milking the medical industry, the medical system for all of that money. And they're just a pawn. And they don't

care about those people. I honestly care about them. I actually can. have honest conversations with them and get them to talk. They're still regular people. Most of them are on drugs. Most of them have a mental health condition, probably caused by drugs or at least exacerbated by drugs, but you can still have conversations with them. They're whacked out sometimes. You can't be afraid of them. And that's what all of these politicians are. They're not having conversations with them. They're real people that had families or have families that they haven't seen their families in 10 years, 15 years, because they had to leave. They got kicked out of their family because of the issues that they had. So we're just

going to address it for what it is, and it's certainly not homes. Stop calling it homes. It's drug and alcohol abuse. It's mental illness. It's drug and alcohol induced psychosis. It's mental illness that is exacerbated by drugs. So you have to address the drug problem. You have to address the mental health problem. And then if you want a tiny little bit of proof, and this is not proof, but this is a cop looking at everything in totality saying it doesn't make sense. The year before they legalized drugs in California, 2014, 2013, they passed a law that said you can't treat mental health and drug abuse at the same time. Then they made drugs legal.

And then if you go back to 2014 and you look at the numbers in California for homeless, it's always constant until 2014 when drugs became legal, that graph goes straight up at a 45-degree angle. and it's not going to stop because it's purposely being made. So you have to end the drug and alcohol problem, the forcing them onto the streets with the mental health problems. And we thought we were going to be successful with Prop 36 because that changed Prop 47 back in 2014, and it was going to allow us the ability again

to get them into drug and alcohol treatment centers. Newsom won't fund it. He won't give us the money for the drug and alcohol treatment centers. He won't give us the funding for the mental health treatment centers. So now we're just stuck. So 70% of the state, every single county, 70% of the state voted for this for a change in direction of public safety for mental health, drug and alcohol, and theft. And Newsom and the legislature will not give us the money for it. It's going to be very easy.

You stop all of the money that's going to the NGOs and the nonprofits. You use a small portion of that for the capacity to treat these people. with drug and alcohol treatment centers, mental health treatment centers. And this is the big one. It's that one that does both because if I as a cop go out and find somebody and they've hit rock bottom and we say, hey, can I get you some help? There's a center I can get you in. And they say yes.

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Visit Wayfair.com. Wayfair, every style, every home. To that treatment center for drugs. And one of the intake questions is, have you ever suffered a mental health condition, treated for a mental health condition. And if they say yes, they can't treat them. They just kick them out the door. The system has been set up like this. So when you treat it for what it is, we are going to fix it. And I guarantee you it can be eliminated. What we see in California with the people living in the sidewalks, people living underneath overpasses and in parks, two years,

two years max, it will be eliminated. So if that's the case, and let's just say all these arguments you're making, Spillis Hilton, both, Republican arguments, conservative arguments. Why are not more people in the state of California supporting this? Why is a Bacera still leading you that if we combine all of them and put it around one Democrat, why are Paul St. Bacierre's going to win? And the number two is Steyer. Why? I don't believe they are.

Why is Newsom and the Democrat Party in California? Why are they all panicking right now about getting shut out of this election? they're panicking even Newsom about two Republicans going to November and that's why they're trying to I mean he's got his I mean they're his break the glass moment or whatever they're going to do they're trying to they're trying to bribe I'm sure bribe the lower candidates to for them to drop out and get behind Bacera so they can make sure that Bacera they don't want Steyer either they want to get behind Bacera so they Bacera is controllable so you get Bacera in there

If all of that was, if the polls were true, why are they so worried? Because that certainly isn't what that poll says, because they know what the real polls say. We have a better chance in California right now in the environment that we're in that Steve and I going to November than two Democrats. That you and Steve going to November, then two Democrats. Well, you know that's not going to happen. You know why that's not going to happen? there's a difference between a Republican Party and the Democratic Party.

And the Republican Party, everybody could have called Curtis Lee what to step out. He didn't do it. Everybody. And he stayed till the very end. And maybe that hurt Cuomo. Maybe it didn't.

But he definitely had some votes that could have gone to a different person, right? On the Democratic Party, they just have to make a phone call, and you better listen. It's a very different wiring they have. So they call K. Katie, Katie will have to step out or also career is over with.

So you guys don't need each other. Republicans are like, screw Steve, I don't need Steve. Steve, screw chat. I don't need this guy. I don't need this guy. But the Democrats, they desperately need each other. I agree with you, except California's in a little different spot with those candidates. Katie doesn't need politics right now.

Katie's a college professor. She's doing fine. She doesn't need to get back into politics. Antonio Virugos. is doing fine. He's doing fine. The Mahan is doing fine. I mean,

Mayhan is a politician that's young that they're going to try and mold, so they'll be able to control him and tell him to drop out. But that's who the big money wanted anyway. And it's just bizarre that they didn't get it. They couldn't get him. They did it too late. They got him in too late,

and they weren't able to get his name out there. Yeah. So they'll be able to control him, but they can't control the other two because they don't care. there was not an heir apparent in California because of Newsom. Newsom's failed leadership, his narcissist and his ego, nobody's as good as him, nobody compares to him, just ask him.

So he didn't bring anybody up behind him. There's no heir apparent. That's why it's all in shambles. And then I guess there's an argument that the whole Democrat Party across the country is like that, but it certainly is in California. and what you still have to remember in California, it's only 43% are Democrats. That means that 57% are not.

So it's not, I mean, we keep convincing people to just don't vote, saying you don't have a chance. And the reality is 40 to 60% of California doesn't vote. And that is just a fact. And if we would all get out and vote, when you travel the state, we are a conservative state. Normal people are conservative. At the last 100 years, 61 years of it was a Republican governor.

Yeah. The average person doesn't know that. It's been a psychological warfare game in politics to convince people to do what they want you to do. They've had controls in a lot of the different, you know, sections of it, legislative, 43 to 9, you know. But a lot of it right now is cheating. So a conservative, even mail in ballots, there are conservatives that say, I'm never voting by mail because they're designed for cheating. So I'm not participating in your system.

So then they wait till election day. And then on election day, when they look at the polls and see they have no chance of winning, they just don't show up. This is by design. This is why I'm doing this to blow up this system and fix this system because it's Californians who are being punished. in the name of activism. It's funny because while you guys are doing your thing,

you've got Spencer Pratt also making a lot of noise. How often do you communicate with him? What do you think about what he's doing? I text him every once in a while. I think he's doing a good job. I hope he's able to reach enough people. I think that where people are in Los Angeles, they're just, they've been abused for so long.

I hope that he's able to show how dishonest they are. Karen Bass. I mean, you're talking about MacArthur Park, where they're making a big deal of MacArthur. MacArthur Park has been trash for decades, and she didn't want to do anything about it. And then she's surprised or she says they're working on it when they do that big raid and go in. And it's like it was just a short time ago that she said how great MacArthur Park was and that ICE was destroying it. But the reality is it's her drug policies. It's her homeless policies.

And they just allow that to happen. She has 50 square blocks of homeless that they just call Skid Row and then somehow they've made that normal in our heads. Well, it's Skid Row. It's 50 square blocks of people living on the sidewalk, living in the street, in squalor, their skin's rotting and they're dying. And nobody cares. Tell me how that. Tell me how we have come to that place in society. and it's because of politics.

They're pawns. Every single year, they talk about they're going to, they're going to put more money toward the homeless. We're going to get more affordable housing. It's all purposely not affordable. It's purposely forcing them onto the street so they can keep that money going. And we know they've already showed the links

of these people that are getting the majority of this money on how they donate to the same causes. The money is a portion of that. that money is going back into the election coffers of these people that are in these positions. What is this, Rob, that you have in McArthur Park? This was a post from two days ago where a gentleman died on the sidewalk after they were trying to revive him. They spent 35 minutes trying to revive him a suspected drug overdose. Can you press show more by respondents or do everything they're being done?

The last sentence is the most important. This is no longer shock in a Los Angeles. Okay, so I was driving down to do a, I was going to spend the day at Skid Row. So we're driving down to go to the LAPD police precinct. We're driving down the street. On the sidewalk is a dead lady. She's laying there dead. There's police tape just around her just to get it on the sidewalk

and everybody just walking around her like it's okay. It's just normal. It's just another dead person. and so we're driving down and I'm like and so we got to the police station and we're like do you think that lady's dead and so we get to the police station I'm like we think there's a dead and they're like oh yeah she's dead

and it's business as usual with a dead woman on the sidewalk and that right there what that last statement was is this is just normal now this has become a way of life in Los Angeles and that's not how it's supposed to be but it is what's been driven because of horrific

horrific policy, government policy. And then the thing about Steve and I, and what we're even talking about, is you can't blame it on anything other than Democrat policy because Democrats in California run everything. Democrats completely run our education system. We're failing. We're the worst in the country. They completely run state government. Supermajority in state government.

They can do anything they want. If they wanted that gas tax removed, they could do it today. If they wanted houses to be cheaper to be built, they could do it today. It's an agenda. It's an ideological agenda of making California less populated. That's why they don't care that six years in a row people are fleeing California. Any other state, if they have a net migration out, they panic and they try and remove it and fix it. And how can we keep them here?

Not California. California is purposely forcing everyone out. They don't want your businesses there because you have jobs. They don't want jobs there. They want people going somewhere else. They can't have starter homes for kids coming out of college because they want less population. So the only homes being built are for older people that can afford the million dollar home or the $1.4 million home. There are no $250,000 homes being built.

There's no $500,000 homes being built because they don't want that generation to be able to afford a home. Tell them to move to another state. It's an ideological agenda that's being controlled by regular. environmentalists control the regulatory cycles of California. But the good thing is every single regulation can be signed away by the governor. Every single regulation. It's not a law. Nobody voted on it.

And the governor has the power to remove them. And the regulatory, probably 60 to 70 percent of the major issues for us in California come from the regulatory environment. and we can stop them all on day one. The big issue with this election is it's not, I mean, Steve's saying the same things I'm saying. I'm saying a little bit bolder. I want to do away with all income tax.

He wants it just for $100,000 and below. I want nobody to pay income tax. Why are there 10 states that are doing really well right now that don't have an income tax? Why do we have the highest? It's just that's how it's set up. And then it makes it volatile because now they're all leaving. One of the issues with tax in California,

140,000 people, the top 140,000 people pay 52% of the taxes in California. So if those hundred, think of how easy it would be for those 140,000 people to decide that they're just going to leave. They could leave next week. And then the state fails because it's almost like a house of cards that's been set up. And they're thinking about it.

So it's not like they're not thinking about it. entertaining the idea of leaving. They're literally- We're all thinking about it. Exactly. Yeah. So when you remove that, when you create an environment

where now California's business-friendly, then the business has come back. When you create an environment where we'll utilize all of our own oil instead of buying it from other places, making them rich, then you get the benefit of that revenue for the state. The fact that you guys buy oil from Iraq.

It's crazy. How the hell? The average person doesn't know that. No. No, they don't. But that's what people are finding out now. So the issue that we have in California right now in this election, if we don't win this election, if the Republican doesn't win this election, I don't know if we'll ever be able to win another election in California. Because I don't know if it can get worse.

No, you know, typically in every campaign, people say this is a consequential election, all this other stuff. It's just the longer you take to bring a Republican in, their claws get deeper. and the deeper it gets, the more control of the whole thing they have. So the reality of it is for long-term people who are willing to move, they're fine, because they can go to Nevada, they can go to Texas, they can go to Florida. But there are Angelinos and Californians that don't want to leave California. Right. You know, you're either part of the Mamas and Pappas California dreaming,

or you're part of Tupac, you know, California knows how. how to party or, you know, even Biggie going, going back to L.A. There's all these songs about California, L.A. The history is so rich. It's such a beautiful place. So the people that love it and they got to fight for it, they have to get involved. So if the average person's watching this around, like, ah, forget about it. There's nothing I can do.

Find a way to go support. You got to, if you're not leaving your state, you better get involved in politics. Yes. If you're not planning on leaving California, you better get. Get involved in you, because we got a lot of people from California that watch the podcast, if you have no desire to leave, I've been selling Florida, Texas, Tennessee, Nevada, but if you're like, there's no way I'm leaving, well, then guess what? Get out there and get involved.

Whether it's yourself or Hilton or whoever it is, the idea is get involved, get behind a candidate. And that's my argument for this, is we know we have to get a Republican to win. and my opinion obviously Steve's going to differ I think he's wrong I wouldn't have got in this if I didn't think I was the only person to win I enjoy my job I think I have a better job than being governor currently I'm the only one that's going to win this election in November this election isn't about June this is about November the Democrat Party for a year has not been raising money to fight Steve Hilton they've been raising money to fight Chad Bianco

the Democrat Party is putting these polls out to get Steve Hilton to go to November not Chad Bianco, because they know that Steve has a zero, zero possibility of winning a statewide election in California. None. Everyone knows that in California, except Steve. We can't convince Steve. Why do you say that? He has nothing to offer Californians. So typically they're going to vote more blue or more middle.

We absolutely know that. For me to win in November, I have to get all the Republicans to vote for me. the majority of the independents, and then 20%, 15 to 20% Democrats, are going to have to cross party lines and vote for a Republican if I'm going to win in November. And it would be Steve also. He needs the same numbers. So currently for November, and obviously it may change, but right now I have the endorsement of the Independent Party.

So the middle of the road party is on my side. So I have the middle of the road. I have the Republican, how am I going to get 20% of the Democrats? And it's through public safety. It's those middle of the road Democrats that are tired of the corruption. They're tired of the crime. They are tired of their businesses being looted. They're tired of all of that, and they know they need a different direction in California.

And that's who we have coming to the campaign. That's why Democrats don't want me in November. On Steve's side, and this is not personal to Steve, it's just the environment. And it's even not personal to chat. because they're voting for sheriff Chad Bianco. They're voting for the idea of a sheriff, the ethical, honest leader to go in and fix government. Fix the crime, fix the corruption, make changes,

be honest, all of those things outside of what politics is. Steve is nothing but politics. He wants to convince people he's a businessman. Where is the business? There is no business that he's ever pointing to to say, look at my successful business. He's politics. But when he talks, he makes mistakes all the time and refers back to politics all the time.

He's always been in politics. It was England politics. And then he moved to California. And this is the problem where he's going to be with even Republicans. There are going to be Republicans that are just not going to show up to vote for Steve Hilton because they don't believe he's a Republican. Five years ago, he was saying he's not a Republican. He was anti-Trump. For a business owner, he wants a livable wage.

He doesn't want minimum wage anymore. He wants a livable wage. So there is no movement going to come towards Steve Hilton that's going to draw people out to vote for him. And here's what he has going for him the worst. President Trump ran three times in California and he lost 60-40 each time. You look at this last election. People did not vote for Kamala Harris because they thought she was competent enough to be the president. They voted anti-Donald Trump.

So now you have Steve Hilton running. in November, who is a Fox News host, which is the only thing equal or slightly less than Donald Trump, supported by Donald Trump. There is no Democrat, and probably a whole lot of independence and maybe some Republicans are going to vote for Steve Hilton because of Fox News and Donald Trump. And it's unfortunate for him, but we have to look at how we're going to win this election in November. That's why Democrats don't want me in. The Democrat machine doesn't want me in November. Let me ask a different question. So you don't like movies.

You don't watch movies. Well, I do sometimes. What's your favorite movie? Now you put me on the spot. I don't know. I like action movies. Give me an idea. Like die hard or you a die hard?

I like those when they were up. I like Mission Impossibles. I like Jason Borns. Okay. If I'm in your garage, what kind of car is in your garage? Do you have a Harley Davidson? Do you have a bike? I do not.

What kind of car? I had a Harley Davidson. What kind was it? It was a, I had a soft tail. And then I had an electric light. And then what kind of car you drive? I drive a Dodge truck diesel. Is it a RAM?

It's a RAM. It's a RAM. Okay, so you part of a RAM. It's a Super Duty. All right, my son likes RAMP. I mean, we're a Shelby, you know, which is respect, you know.

My car that I will get, and we're just trying to find the right one and how much I'm going to spend on it, but it'll be a pre, it'll be, I'm hoping to get a 72 because that was my first, a 72 Bronco. Okay, respect. They look good. They're the OGs. Yeah. Okay, baseball. You played baseball. You came from Utah. I think you were playing at a tournament in California. You said you have to eventually move to California. I was 11 when I did that. Little League World Series in Santa Monica. And when I went home, and you don't know this about me, but at that time in my life, there was nothing that came out of my mouth that wasn't baseball. My whole childhood growing up, my dream was Major League Baseball Hall of Fame. So when I was 11 going out to play in the Little League World Series, I was.

I mean, it's all about baseball. When I got home, I couldn't tell my parents one single thing about baseball. I knew we lost, but I couldn't remember anything. I knew what the beach looked like. I knew what it smelled like. I knew what Santa Monica streets looked like. I knew what the parks looked like. I was at 11 years old.

What year was this? That would have been 1979. When you came to California, I'd love it. To play in that World Series. And you went back, you're like, I got to find my phone. I went home and I told my parents. I'm moving to California. At what age did you move to California?

21. And then what did you do? When I was 21, I got, see, that's a California dream. I came out here. I got a job in construction. I worked for a roofing company, putting roofs on houses, and within a year, I bought my first house. That's not possible now.

No, 906 is the average price point right now. That is just not possible. But I had that, that's just my generation. My kids now don't have that ability. And that's really, that's the what happened. It wasn't me that did it. I mean, it wasn't you as a business owner that did it. It wasn't the people of California that did it.

It was those 130 people in that building in Sacramento, in our capital building, 130 people. They're the ones doing it. And we can go in and we can change it. We can take it back because nothing really broke in California other than the policy. Yeah, that's the part that's got to get addressed. Baseball continuing. Yes. I know you told me Ryan Sandberg was your guy, right?

as a second basement. When you move to LA, who do you root for? Well, you're killing me in California. I root for the angels and the Dodgers because they're right there. Who was your favorite play? Like California. If you've been there, who do you like in California? Who's your favorite Dodger? Who's your favorite angel?

Are you a Tim Salmon guy? I'm a Kiki fan. Kiki fan. Kiki Hernandez. Stud. That's why I'm a fan. I don't, I will tell you that even throughout history, even Ryan Sandberg, it wasn't that the Cubs were my favorite team, it was individuals.

So my favorite team is the Yankees. So growing up, I wanted to be a Yankee. And everybody that played baseball, eventually you want to be a Yankee. That's right. So I'm still a Yankees fan. But in California, I have to be an Angels fan, a Dodgers fan. We're a little bit of ways from San Diego, a little bit away from San Francisco, so in Oakland.

So those are still there. Give me a unique fun fact about your people don't know. A fun fact? A fun fact, people don't know. Fun fact people don't know Fun fact Come on Come on

I'm trying to get people To see the main side Of Chad Bianco Give me a fun fact about you Well the real side This is what people probably Wouldn't even believe Because of the persona

That I have in these debates And everything else I cry at commercials Commercials make me cry I like I like watching You're talking about movies And everything else

I've got my five-year-old granddaughters Sitting at the TV Watching whatever it is they're watching and Denise will tell me to stop watching it. It's like, I'm watching that. The emotional little princess is on screen. It's, and I don't know if it's because I'm getting older or if I was always there and I was just suppressing it. But I unfortunately, sometimes I can be a little emotional. I have a big heart. I have a big heart. October 8, right? October 8, yeah, October 8th, your birthday, your Libra. So how many grandkids? Five grandkids. We have two five-year-old

girls and it's interesting because my my boy one of my boys had a girl three months later my daughter has a girl then my other boy that's so cool has a boy and then three months later my daughter has another boy stop it so i've got two five-year-old girls two two-year-old boys and now my other boy had another girl so we've got a brand new baby daughter that is so what a so busy we've got a it's a good is everybody in california no i have one in north carolina He's in the Army. So he's in North Carolina. He is.

82nd. He's in special forces. Oh, good for him. Yeah. Well, thank him for his service. I will. Thank you. We're proud of him.

Yeah. You know, that's the part of our life, right? To find out and see where we are with policies and then find out the human side. You know, at the end of the day, we're all human beings. We're all, you know, trying to make the best of what we have and find a way to make the current situation better based on values that make society is better, the country better, and keep America as the greatest country in the world? Any final thoughts before we wrap up? Now, I hope that people are wising up in California. I believe they are. This has been a 16 months

of a massive grassroots effort throughout California, meeting people, business owners, our farming and our ag community, all of that. And I truly do believe that this is going to be a change. This is where Californians are finally standing up and we see now that they're even even coming to the polls, they're showing up. People are telling me my age and older, they've never voted in their life, but they're going to vote this year and they hope I make it. They've got to get me in there. So that's the point where we are.

I hope that people are doing that. But the reality of California is if you want something different, you got to do something different. And if you either have to vote differently, you have to support candidates that you have never done in your life, you've never given money to a political campaign. We can't win campaigns without money. And especially in California, you look at the money that's spent by Democrats compared to Republicans. That's unfortunately why we lose. I've been traveling the state for 16 months. You can't get to every part of the state. It's massive. It is huge. And to say that you're going to physically

get out and talk to everybody, you can't. You have to do it with money through advertising. It is true? It's very true. So is there a website? Is there a website for people to go to? Bianco for governor.com and all of the social media platforms, Sheriff Chad Bianco. That's the website. Rob, let's put the link below, folks. If you feel compelled to go support, go to Bianco for governor.com. And outside of that, a social link will put below as well. Support financially. Definitely whatever you're doing if you're a Californian, do go support this year and vote. With that being said, thank you so much. And I finish with one thing that I should have said when you asked me before.

Yeah, of course. This is what I want everyone in California to realize. I'm never going to jump up and down and say I won this for the Republican Party. I turn the state red. Of course, I'm running as a Republican, and I'm going to win for Republicans. But I'm also winning for Democrats. And I'm also winning for independence. This is not about party for me, and this is not about party.

I'm the only candidate that it's not about party. I'm doing this, and I decided to do this. and the entire time I've been doing it only for Californians. And if you are a Californian that wants a better life, a different life, I'm truly the only one that you can pick from. There you go. Sheriff Bianco. Take care, everybody.

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