PBD Podcast - Charlie Kirk On China & Brazil Striking Agreement To Ditch US Dollar | Ep. 253 | Part 2

Episode Date: April 4, 2023

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And by the way, while we're talking about people's, you know, sexual behaviors, can we have maybe a grand jury and paneled for Bill Clinton getting on Jeffrey Epstein's plane and going down? Because I guess former president's are now, you know, completely fair game. It's also one side of the aisle, right? This is the both sides on the, well, no, no, Trump never went to the island. That is not true. Trump and Epstein hated each other. There's a of misinformation that Netflix that a lot of damage here Trump

kicked Epstein out of the club he never went to the island there's no evidence he ever engaged in the Epstein's nonsense in fact he kicked Epstein out because he was praying on young women Bill Clinton did go to the island Dershowitz went to the island and maybe some other people that's what we know of but Trump never went to the island and maybe some other people. That's what we know of. But Trump never went to the island. It's so funny that this whole thing takes place and nobody is willing to open it up and go deeper to see what really happened there. You know, what was, who do we have on a couple months ago who talked about the Epstein Island Rob?

Who do we have on a cup? What was her name? Whitney Webb, which by the way, she did a phenomenal job and she can't even live in the state. about the Epstein Island Rob, who do we have on account? What was her name? What do you mean? Which by the way, she did a phenomenal job and she can't even live in the state. They loved what she had to say. What's the likelihood that we'll ever, in our lifetime, learn about what happened on Epstein Island

and any of the guys that will be held accountable for it? What's the number below zero? You really think it's not going to happen at all? Oh yeah. I mean, so my hypothesis on Epstein, he was an intelligence asset, either for the American government or for the Israelis, he had a Potemkin village of an investment facade, anyone that met him, there's a very powerful YouTube video, Eric Weinstein talks about this in detail.

So this is not my theory, he talks about it, he says, when I sat down with Jeffrey Epstein, and it makes sense because he had the most expensive real estate, and he wasn't that sophisticated. And we talked about investments, and there were not a lot of recorded trades on the addresses he disclosed for his financial activity, and he only had one investor. And it's all very strange, right?

But it makes sense that if you were trying to run an intelligence operation for the Saudis, or for the Israelis or for the American government, that you would try to get the most powerful people in compromising situations underage girls, capture it on film and then be able to use it for blackmail. So I don't know all the details, but you're dealing with something that's deeper than just kind of a high society pimp. That's essentially what Whitney Webb did point out. It wasn't even necessarily Epstein. It was his right hand woman, Jelaen Maxwell, that her father was undoubtedly some sort of asset from Assad. And he own newspapers

in his powerhouse, but who rubored Murdoch and him went out of it. And Murdoch, yeah, that's exactly his name, Robert Maxwell. Yes. So you're saying less than zero percent right the fact that we find out what actually happened on the island it's not it's not gonna happen who would lead that charge though you know you see your january six committee or nine eleven committee but i mean that that only one person for the only one person could know no no no it's it's it's like a yellow

uh... what do you call these, uh, uh, uh, white WikiLeaks guy, uh, Julian Assange, it's gotta be some, it's gotta be somebody like that. And you gotta be living in a different place to pull it off and hack into it and gather to come in because they have communicated. So there's some way somebody can get to the island too. That's right. Bill Gates went to the island.

I'm sorry. I forgot. But Bill Gates went to fix island. I'm sorry. I forgot. Bill Gates went to fix the Microsoft Outlook email for Epstein because he was having problems. It wasn't just the island. It was this massive ranch in New Mexico too. Right. Huge ranch that underage girls were trafficked too. And remember, this wasn't just American government officials. Prince Harry, right? No, not Harry. Not Prince Edward. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I'm not sure if you're going to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to

get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a They're nonprofit. They have to prove how many hours a week they contribute to total nonprofit. You know how many hours they have to prove?

Did you see it? One hour a week. Nice. That's hard work. $11 million. I believe they've raised. What's $13 million that raised? They've given $3 million, $3 million.

And they contribute an hour a week to their charity. That's some hard working people right there. Let me just say one final thing on the Epstein thing. I don't mean to belabor the point. But me just say one final thing on the Epstein thing. I don't mean to belabor the point. But when I first started to go to Palm Beach and I visited Palm Beach 10 years ago, I started to hear kind of one-off comments about,

oh yeah, that house right there, that's Jeffrey Epstein and he's trafficking young girls. People knew in the area. And then I started. You were 19 at the time. I was 19, 20 years old. Yeah, they would just casually point this out. No, it was a matter of fact because remember, Epstein was indicted like 15 years prior for similar activities. So it was kind of out there, right? Yeah. I think

it was a cost to actually that was the US Attorney General ended up being one of Trump's cabinet officials that was the US Attorney. I could be wrong about that, but there was some connective tissue there. And anyway, no one really took it seriously. And then I remember, he was either Rogan or somebody in 14 or 15 before all this, started to talk about Epstein's Island, and you were smeared as a conspiracy theory. Mm-hmm.

As a conspiracy, if you would have said in 15 in public, decent society that there was a targeted campaign with former presidents and the world's richest man who Bill Gates was at the time To go to a remote island in the Caribbean to go be able to have sex sexual relations of the underage girls You would have been laughed out of the room now. We know that's a fact. Why do I say that? Be careful what you call a conspiracy theory It's a thought terminating cliche that actually might lead you to something. By the way, Rob I'm gonna send this to you. I love what you just said.

I'm gonna send this to you. Can you pull this up from APA news? Because a lot of times you hear things like this, you're like, well, you know, there are a lot of conspiracy theorists out there and you're seeing right now a lot of conspiracy theorists saying, you know, we're undefeated. All these things came true.

You know, we were right. I came up with that. Exactly. But look at the article. It's not written by bribe art. If you open this up and you go to it, conspiracy theory, okay, coined long before JFK assassination, go lower to take a look at the article. Okay, claim. The terms conspiracy theory was created by CIA agency following a PS assessment. false recorded use of the phrase conspiracy theory dates back to 1863 and it was notably invoked reports

following the 1881 shooting then president James Garfield more than six years before the CIA was established an academic review of the digital library found the term conspiracy theorist has been published at least in the last what what do you say to some like this where there they're quick to jump on it to say c.a. didn't come up with the conspiracy theory that they're calling it a conspiracy theory that conspiracy theory came from the c.a. go read the church and pike documents the church and pike committee was the most effective house and senate oversight of the u.s. intelligence agencies they received

death threats they were followed and intimidated they came up with it so it's not like we pulled it out of thin air the church and pike committee discovered not just the heart attack gun which is a real thing by the way they discovered a gun that they could shoot somebody and make it look like they had a heart attack fake and autopsy but they discovered that the central intelligence agency via operation mockingbird a real thing used the term conspiracy theory and got it into public opinion as a way to try to discredit dissonant opinion. It's in the church and pike documents, so people can read it for themselves.

The church and pike committee was, what year did it was it 70 something? Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, 76, right? Yeah, I mean, it's all there. The thousands of pages of documents that most Americans aren't even aware of. You'll learn more about your government, Cointell Pro, Operation Mockingbird, Yeah, I mean, it's all there. The thousands of pages of documents that most Americans aren't even aware of. You'll learn more about your government.

I can never pronounce right. Quintell Pro, Operation Mockingbird. There's five or six of these projects that the intelligence agencies are running that the Pike Committee uncovered. In your opinion, all this conspiracy theory stuff, what turned out to be the biggest non-conspiracy theory? Epstein's up there.

And what do you think is actually a conspiracy theory that Americans like, hey, it's hard to break it to. Live versus truth is about it. Yeah, I think you're saying. Go ahead. Well, I mean, there's several. I mean, one of the ones we lived under in the last couple of years was that somehow

closing schools and getting kids away from each other is someone going to stop the spread of the virus. And if you push back against that your anti-science and you're believing in conspiracy theories, right, that's a really big one. How about that the vaccine is safe and effective and going to stop transmission? I mean, they said my mom got diagnosed with COVID today. She had every booster on the planet. So I mean, that was today.

Today, today, I'm like like how do you feel about COVID? Yeah, out of nowhere. I think there's a lot to the JFK assassination. I personally believe there was more than one shooter. I think there's a lot of evidence to support that. We don't know that for a fact, because they keep on suppressing the release of those documents. I think that this idea that somehow we got off a metallic

based currency just for good and noble reasons, I think, is insane. Just read got off a metallic-based currency just for good and noble reasons, I think, is insane. Just read the creature of Jekyll Island, which is, I think, one of the most illuminating books on currency. How it took his whole team to Jekyll Island at one point? Yeah, we had it in the room where they came up with the whole thing. We had a meeting there. So anyway, I could go on and on.

But no, I mean, there's several of them. How about this? When we used to say that there weren't weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, we were all called conspiracy theorists. It turns out there weren't. They found some biological and chemical agents, but nothing near what they told us it was, right? Which was kind of the core centerpiece of, I think, the illegal mistake to invade Iraq, one of the worst mistakes in American history. What's on the flip side? What do you mean? Meaning like what actually probably is a conspiracy theory? Oh, man, you got me.

Did we land on the moon? Is the earth round? Actually, yes, we do have a spherical rounder. Yes, yes, that is correct. You could prove it. And you could prove it mathematically. You could prove it flying in a plane. You could prove it when you see a boat

that all of a sudden just disappears in the horizon. It's how you know you live on a spherical rounder. Now, those are the dragons over the edge. Yeah, that's right. That's why we have to carve the goddess in the front of our boat to protect us. I think we landed on the moon, too. You think you landed on the moon?

Yeah, I do. I think we landed on the moon. And the reason being is that, look, I don't have any,'m going to get so much hate male for this and that's fine but generally that one seemed too big to cover up that there's to be take too many people and too many actors and too many fake stories and I think there was a really good myth busters that actually went against the kind of flag waving part of it again I don't what about a nine eleven I do not think it was an inside job. I think our government probably had aforementioned notice.

Yeah, I think our government probably knew that 9-11 was going to happen. They had ignored intelligence reports. There's too much to suggest that we allowed the hijackers into our country and we did nothing to stop it. So you do think it was an inside job? That's not an inside job necessarily. An inside job would say that the government was actively planning explosives and wanted it to happen. I think that there was probably a turn of the head on for whatever reason you could figure it out. We probably will one

day of some sort of domestic attack that the Islamic fundamentalists were plotting or planning. But I think it goes too far to say that our government was planning explosives in the World Trade Center. I don't see any evidence of it. I want to read a couple other stories here. So we keep going into my opinion. Crisis, crisis, crisis. Like, you know, we talked earlier about what's going to happen, what needs to happen for America to be united. We talked about different crisis. This is one of the ones that, you know, a lot of people are calling me about and asking me, what do you think about what's going to happen here? And it's coming up a lot of people are calling me about and asking me, what do you think about

what's going to happen here? And it's coming up a lot lately. China and Brazil strike deal to ditch the US dollar. This is a zero-hedge story. And they have reached a deal to trade in their own currencies, bypassing the US dollar. This deal will allow the two countries to conduct their massive trade, which amounts to $250 billion per year, and financial transactions directly exchange in one for Riasis, Vise versa. This deal is part of Beijing's latest move against the U.S. dollar extending its bilateral U.S. dollar attempting currency arrangement beyond countries such as Russia, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia to now include Latin American exporting powerhouse, while we are still strong,

long away from the one replacing US dollar as a global reserve currency, the current US ruling regime is destroying the world's faith and confidence, not only in the dollar, but in what once wants a superpower in and is increasingly a third world banana republic time. So I think what most people need to understand, and this is where I think Americans need to step

back off headlines and just learn something very, very quickly. And that is 1944, there is something called Brenton Woods, and that's where the US dollar was tied to gold. In other words, the value of the US dollar was connected to the value of gold. And between Fort Knox and other areas, we had gold reserves. So the US currency on a global scale was deemed as being valuable, tied to gold, and stable. And in 1944, everyone came to this agreement to say, hey, let's peg the value of our currency to the dollar because the dollar is pegged to gold and it brought international global stability.

It also created the dollar as the world's reserve currency. Well, what does that mean? That means if you have extra reserves and you bought them in dollars, they were stable because they were tied to the gold. Now, Nixon, and we can talk about what you just referenced a minute ago, was Nixon taking us off the gold standard 72-73, was that nothing to do with the Vietnam War and political instability

and the economy at that time, it was deeper. I'm with you, it was deeper reasons, that was the front excuse. The right now, you know what the average is right now, on world reserves, 62% of countries reserves are held in US dollars 62% right now and so even though we went off the gold standard We're the reserve currency so people see the United States currency is very stable That's what's important and what we're seeing here is the wand. Everybody here is the wand.

Well, that's a unit of measure. The actual currency in China is called the Remindbee. That's their dollar. Dollar equals Remindbee wand is like a unit. And so what they want is they want a slowly, remember, China plays a long game. They want to slowly replace the dollar as the world's reserve currency. Because- Well, they succeed, huh? Well, they succeed. Well, they're taking one step at a time and they're starting with African nations

that they put into, oh, he can also go study mercantilism, where you come in and you take all the resources and then you sell them back things that are made out of the resources. So China is in an active state right now of assisting many small regional Latin American and African nations on deals that are intentionally going to go bad and then leave them with the collateralization of the country they've just pillaged. And so long term, if somebody doesn't stand up long-term sure China could be successful

because they're playing this not the way the West plays it the West has played the game in terms of history in terms of regimes a regime of leadership China is playing this long-term in terms of decades. China what do you think? What do you think? Oh, sorry. Yeah, I don't mean interrupt. I agree. I think the dollar, it's going to hit a flat line because Germany, South Korea and Japan are not going to drop the dollars of the World Reserve currency.

And especially Germany and Japan, they produce a lot of value and a lot of wealth. And so the euro, backstopping the World Reserve Korean, meaning the dollar being the backstop of the euro is actually in our benefit But India is going to be the big question right if India falls that's a growing market. Yep Brazil is a totally corrupt country They're a broken country the bulls on Brazil have been wrong the last 20 years It's like a trillion dollar GDP. You could fact check me on it They're mainly a natural resource hub and they have a real hard time with their own homegrown industry and there was like, oh, 1.6 trillion hours about right.

It's actually flatlined and gone down in recent years. So the bulls on Brazil have been wrong and with Lula now becoming president, they're gonna become a wholly owned colony of the Chinese Communist Party. Basically, that's what Brazil is. Catastrophic for the nation, Bob. It's terribly.

The future of Brazil is put in permanent jeopardy because of Bolsonaro not being, you know, staying as President Prime Minister. Everybody thought brick through the 90s was just an acronym for emerging nations. Yes. You know, Brazil, Russia, India, China. It wasn't. It was a coalition over there that wanted to undermine U.S. authority on a global trade basis.

So we need a new president, because I don't think Joe Biden seems awfully worried that the dollars no longer be coming the world reserve currency. You can say that it wasn't a good idea for us to become the world reserve currency. However, it's a fact that if we stop being the world reserve currency, every single person in America gets significantly poor overnight. The fact that people have to turn their goods and services into dollars is kind of a stimulus boost just baked into our economy.

We're kind of a place of last resort, a refuge, if you will. It's a built in advantage that we don't even recognize or realize till we travel the world. But I think we have more staying power than people realize. There's a lot of entrepreneurs. We create a lot of value in this country. It's some very valuable companies. Despite the fact that we're service-based,

we still have a lot of natural resources. We have a manufacturing beast that can still be unleashed if necessary. So we have a lot of advantages. With that being said, though, this current administration seems unbothered by any of this. And I mean, what we need is a new regime. You're right, we do think in terms of regime,

hopefully it's President Trump, and we go directly after the CCP. But a lot of this is centered on a border dispute on Eastern Ukraine. All of this is, if that was not happening the way it was happening, a lot of these chips would not be falling into place in my opinion. That is the beginning domino,

because then Russia said, okay, screw you, we're going to go closer to China. We're no longer, for the first time ever, Russia has just dropped basically all their dollars out of the central bank, because we made them when we put sanctions on them. By the way, what is that, what is that safer world-reserve currency status? This is why our leaders are so stupid. We basically confiscated the dollars out of the Russian central bank. That's not exactly safe and secure. Basically countries are saying, wait a second, you can

just confiscate our dollars. We went after them and just grabbed the dollars and said, yep, they're no longer valid, converted into Rupils. And Russia said, okay, well that's an act of war, which it is. And so I think a lot of this is centered on this eastern border dispute. We could talk about that if you'd like i think it's incredibly incredibly important i don't think people really thought through the ramifications of our involvement in ukraine and then we can show the princess has had a plan b for you in this currency

thing tell you what let's take something really valuable i've got it energy yet i need energy and energy has a hard unit of value coming out of the ground just like gold does. And so what Xi did is he got value in the form of resources for the Rumin B in a deal that looks like a trade deal, but it's a currency deal with Russia. Right. It's bad all across the board, but make no mistake.

With the proper president, the right president, we can crack that alliance in nine months. These countries, China has a lot of domestic problems. What would Trump do? Okay, you're saying that. So Trump gets, let's just say he's 20, 24, he wins. What's he doing? Well, first, he could go back to what we already had, which is you have a piece immediately brokered in eastern Ukraine, immediately.

You go in there and you end the stupid war, you end this proxy war, you then try to create intentional separation between Russia and China and keep them in their own corners. You go to the Saudis and you end this proxy war, you then try to create intentional separation between Russia and China and keep them in their own corners. You go to the Saudis and you say knock it off, you're gonna keep on using the dollar for the petrodollar, you save OPEC, which will increase the dollar strength

of the world reserve currency. And then you have to go after the CCP in like a 15 point targeted plan. You pull their visas from being able to go to Europe, you put targeted sanctions on them. There's, there's, again, I'm not exactly saying anything that hasn't been thought through through really serious scholars, but we have to have a serious plan to punish the CCP for what they did with the virus covering it up and lying about it. And

then also their hyper aggressive action with Belt and Road, cyber warfare, infiltrating the American economy. Some of that comes with a price and a cost, but then more than anything else, Trump, if he becomes president again, will be energy independent again, they'll be economic confidence restored. I think that we'll see inflation put under control because we'll actually have a rebirth of market stability. Right now people are confused, they're uncertain, they're afraid of their own shadow, everyone's looking at the central bank is doing. Entrepreneurs can operate in an environment like this.

And that's why you're seeing business startups go down, you're seeing acquisitions slow down, whether in a recession or not, I think we are in a recession, it really is an indictment of the lack of confidence coming from the current regime. We don't know if a big tax bill is gonna be passed, we don't know if the regulators are going to be thrown at us we need president trump the duty did for four years which is to unshackled the

american economy and don't leave out don't leave out tywan is that the question between china and tywan is market share of semi-conductors this got nothing to do with writing wrong and change i shak yeah that's correct that's why we should build as many domestic semi-conductor plants and This is not lost on Donald J. Trump and Taiwan You know what happened that Taiwan won't happen that way and they know it and they know it and they know Portuguese name for it. Yeah, my question to Charlie is this

I'm glad you brought up the acronym brick which I think has now been updated to bricks because Brazil Russia India China and now South Africa is now the latest, the largest power of South Africa. Mighty power of South Africa. All facetias is right there. I don't mean to make fun of South Africa. It's not exactly a world power. Hey Elon Musk is a very upset when he hears you

commenting on his native country. I think you would agree. This is an African-American but natural. Here's my question, wasn't it? I don't think there was anything like China was gonna do this regardless. We know that they've been trying to come after

the American superpower, and that's just what's on their agenda, China 2030. Russia was never gonna cozy up to America. They were always gonna be aligned with China in some regard. My question is India. I don't think China and India are aligned whatsoever. They're not natural partners.

They're not natural partners whatsoever. They need each natural partners. So they're not natural partners whatsoever. They meet each other exactly. Exactly. So what's their role in this? Because I always thought that they as the most populated democracy in the world outside of America, where is India's role? Not that you're this India-Pacific expert, but I think India is a tricky country. You can't trust their government.

They're doing deals with Iran and they're doing all sorts of weird stuff for energy. But India should be the most natural partner and hedge. You could squeeze China through a bilateral agreement with Korea, Japan, and India. And that's why America needs to be actively involved in the room and calling balls and strikes, using sanctions and tariffs were necessary

and using the global reserve currency status to be able to effectuate meaningful geopolitical change, which of which, you know, we do not have right now, I disagree a little bit. I think Russia's run by a bunch of thugs and mobsters. I think Russia wants whatever is best for Russia. I don't think necessarily Russia and China are these natural partners. I think we made it that way.

I think what Donald Trump was trying to do was he was trying to keep Russia in some sort of a kind of ambiguous middle neutral area phase and then jab at China. Remember, Trump put sanctions on China. He improved a lot of diplomats, diplomats be expelled from China. He was putting a lot of different, he was trying to kind of create some form of a jab against the CCP.

The problem right now is the CCP is able to run undeterred right now. There is no counterbalance from America. So I mean, look, for example, if we had an actual regime that cared about saving America, like, okay, China, you're going down to Brazil to go do a new deal. 15% export now, tariff, immediately, on pick your product. Just make them feel a little bit, a little bit of, you know, make them think twice. He said, there's no cost to it. And look, China has a lot of domestic problems.

They have hundreds of millions of people living in legitimate third world poverty, despite the appearance that Gigi Ping puts on, like he's the most popular leader ever. There's legitimate dissent against the CCP. The CCP is run by a group of mobsters and thugs with no more than 5% of the popular support. And so they got their own ticking time bomb.

They have ghost cities, they manipulate their currency, they have bank runs that happen far too often. They suppress a lot of the news there. They're not a free society. They think they can kind of do this Marxist or Welley in digital surveillance state. I actually think that's unsustainable. I think it's gonna break eventually.

I could be wrong. And so China likes to posture as this really strong man. We could destabilize the Chinese Communist Party in nine months with a proper president. The question is, do we want to? The only question then is, why don't we? It's because they've captured our elites. And they call it elite capture in actually Mandarin. They have purchased the head of the NBA.

They purchased the Wall Street. They purchased, that out of the NBA. They purchased the Wall Street. They purchased, you know, the top people. Peter Schweitzer put this in his book, Red Handed, where he talks about how the American elites are bought and paid for by the CCP. There's a great expression in Mandarin and it's roughly translated, little bad talk, big help,

which means they might talk a bad game against China but they're a big act of help uh... you look at the cover he has elan must go on there which i think it's a little unfair but he has joe biden john bainer nancy polo c lebron james that's Henry kessinger and then uh... bill gates all of which would benefit tremendously from the chinese communist party

and you see what happens when like it a famous american actor like uh... john cina steps out. Yep, immediately put back into place. Or the end. Mandarin. Or the NBA was regulating who could wear things in the stands of free Hong Kong protestorshirts. Remember that? It's kind of a story that was suppressed a couple years ago.

It would derr all more in the way. You were not allowed to even go into a national basketball association game with free Hong Kong t-shirts. So it's a hyper. I mean, you think about it these associations hollywood especially hollywood banking and sports are the three major industries that are controlled by the

Chinese Communist Party there's more than that attack too but not even as much as hollywood banking and sports the fact that we're being apologetic to them like hey we're so sorry what can we do to make you happy? And you can easily, America help China become who they are today with relationships over the years. Yeah, I mean, I don't mean to interject, but without us giving them favorite nation status, without the 1999 World Trade Organization treaty, they are a third world country, period. And we basically said,

okay, we're going to read domicile our manufacturing assets, we're going to close down our ability to make stuff and we're going to do this massive labor arbitrage where we're going to send, we're going to send all the jobs to you and we get a bunch of plastic we do not need in return. And the robber barons that made those deals, I don't say that lightly because I'm a capitalist, but it was bad for the West, designed this entire thing. And, but when you have a relaxed monetary currency, which we do, it necessitates neoliberalism. Who were the architects of that deal in 1999?

Well, Bill Clinton signed it, but it was largely driven by consultants. McKinsey and Company was the largest company that was basically pushing the idea that we're gonna go to a company and say, we'll be able to solve, you see right there, McKinsey and Company, right there. It was that 2019, yeah.

And we're gonna go in, we'll save you pennies on a dollar. You could make this trinket in China for this, even this tie right here is made in China. I was like wearing it earlier, are you kidding me? Why can't we make this here? It's because we wanna try to get the lowest cost. And for certain products, it made sense, but why do we make penicillin and vitamin C?

90% of all of our vitamin C comes from China. Like, that makes no sense. And so we off-shored our critical infrastructure to a country that seemed to be kind of a passive country, and it's now turned into our greatest enemy. And what have we gained from that? Just lower prices? And you go to Walmart?

I'll tell you what we've gained. Our homes are twice as big as they were in the 1950s, with twice as much garbage that we do not use. And they're half filled. They're twice as empty because we have less kids. So we have piles of plastic we do not use and factories that are empty. And then in return, we fill our entire communities

with fentanyl made by the Chinese Communist Party, pumped through by the Cinnola drug cartel and we lose a hundred seven thousand people a year to drug overdoses. And we'll take in another step closer to home and I'll teach I'm teaching people new words today Pat. Michi LaDora. Michi LaDora means a little sister. Michi LaDora was the concept of putting a small factory in Mexico for the labor

was cheaper and products could be made and then they would take a very short walk to the United States. So if that WTO deal doesn't happen in favor of China, it would have turned Mexico into the larger manufacturing power. That's exactly right. And what would have happened to the Mexican economy? You would have had the eruption, the good eruption of the middle class in Mexico, and you can trace it right back to the issues

that we have with Mexico, to the gang style violence that there are in terms of controlling government areas in Mexico, whereas if this happened, you would have turned them into 1950s, United States manufacturing power, and what would have that done to our relationship with Mexico to the South? It would have made our continent a superpower continent is what it would have done. Why did not we have the foresight to do something like that?

Because you could make it for cheaper, they were chasing the labor cost. Absolutely correct. And I hate to be that blunt, but the Chinese Communist Party basically said pennies per wage hour for us to be able to make a shoot. And they were chasing the wage hour. And look, I'm a capitalist. I'm a free market guy. But also, I want markets to point towards something virtuous and good.

And not every deal you do is going to always be in that proper context. The Chinese Communist Party deal is a bad deal. And the people that defend it, it's indefensible. I mean, what we have as a casualty is we have become more and like an owned and operated colony of the CCP. It's breakable. It's breakable for many reasons

because we still have a free society and they don't. The fact we have somewhat of a free society is our great competitive advantage. That right there is how we beat them. If you unshackled the American entrepreneur, we run circles around these people. Because you cannot possibly quantify or measure 20 or 30 million free people taking risks,

that will be the CCP oligarch every day. That's a planned economy. Now, they have a mixed economy, but they still are not figuring out entrepreneurship there. Because they have to control. They have to confiscate wealth. It's still fear-based. It's not fear-to-base.

A true free society economically could destroy these guys in a decade and which you don't realize is you're seeing a reflection of 1950s and 60s Soviet Union where they tried to put in place these five year economic plans centered around crop plans and agriculture and we're going to export to Europe and that's where we're going to get our power out of it, and they had a couple things. They had uranium, they had limited LNC because of the extraction that they were going at that time. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, guess what? That is exactly what you're seeing happen here.

Is these limited economic plans that are based on control of the populace, the labor force, are not working for China just the same way they didn't work for. This is Soviet Union. Can I ask you a question? Yeah, because I know this is something that's near and dear in your heart. Obviously, you know, entrepreneurship capitalism is the backbone of what value

Tamein is all about. You've interviewed whether it's general Robert Spalding, countless people that what's the one gentleman that you've had multiple times. He's an expert in China relations. Gordon Chan. Gordon know, Gordon Chan? Gordon Chan, correct. He's excellent. So when you say that China is fear-based,

and Charlie correct it out, you know, you have 20, 30 million entrepreneurs here in America that can spur American exceptionalism again. So great, economic. Where do you, like, what do you, when you say fear-based with China versus? It's a view of perfect idea. So, so if I go to TSA pre, to get my my TSA pre card, you're in fear because you're dealing with

a government organization, customer service is not existing. The lady's talking to me as if I work for her. I told you to be here 50 minutes ago. I'm like, you got to be kidding me. I'm driving up. Are you serious? I say, yes. I told you.

I'm like, wow. Then go to clear. You go to clear. You know how they'll talk to you? Oh my God, thank you so much for coming and thank you for this and thank you for that ride. If we can grab a bottle of water, so clear will give you customer service because they want your business. TSA pre-nosed.

You don't have a choice. You best respect us, right? Fear free. TSA, fear, clear, a free. America is free. Still, China is fear. You're afraid walking around. You got to make that guy happy, this guy happy, that guy happy, this guy happy, it's all about that. This is why some, by the way, earlier question I asked of you guys, and I asked Charlie, Kelly, you can just bring it up. Earlier question I asked of a, Charlie, I I said what would happen to America today if

Elon doesn't buy Twitter if Spotify doesn't drop with Spotify drops Roca let's say and a rumble isn't there. What would happen? Entrepreneurs are going to fix 95% of the world's problems because in climates like this You don't think YouTube in their board meetings. They're talking about rumble right now What do you think they're talking about? You don't think Facebook and YouTube and all those guys are Sitting there pissed off at Elon for allowing freedom of speech You don't think there's you don't think YouTube and all the Silicon Valley people are not pissed off at Sweden. Daniel for not dropping Rogan. How dare you not drop Rogan? How dare you not drop Rogan?

Capitalist exposed bad arguments and that's what's happening right now. I want to transition into a couple other things as a parent of seven months. Yes, seven months, which is exciting. Life changing. Life, you can all, your eyes, man, tell a story, right? I remember having our first, as parents, you know, you think about these things now where before when you were single, you're like, maybe it's not as big of a deal. Biden says transgender people shape our nation's soul.

I've never heard this before. In official proclamation, okay. President Biden's issued an official proclamation declaring March 31st as the transgender day of visibility, stating that transgender Americans shape our nation's soul and contribute to society in various fields, including the military, medicine, politics, and business.

He also expressed concern over discriminatory state laws targeting transgender youth and the epidemic of violence Against transgender women and girls particularly woman and girls of color Anyways, he keeps going on and on and you see what you know Jean-Pierre Karin Jean-Pierre was talking about and then I saw a clip I want to play this clip for you if you can rob if you can play play that clip And then I saw a clip. I want to play this clip for you if you can. Rob, if you can play that clip off of Twitter and I want to get your reaction. This kid is 11 years old. I'm sure you've seen this. He gets up there speaking to the board then his father speaks afterwards. Can you play this clip real quick Rob? Hi, my name's Knox. They jack. I'm 11 years old and I go to middle school. I'm a six grader. I was in the library, and this book was on a stand. I'd like to read you a page.

My back over my hips, as I ask if we should take off, take our clothes off. And he's saying yes before I finish my sentence. He's pulling off my t-shirt, laughing, when I can't undo his shirt buttons. He's undoing my belt. I'm reaching into his bedside row for a condo. I think you got another video playing in a background Rob. Yeah, you got some kind of another clip playing in a background. A lot of tabs open.

Yeah, you got one other clip though, because that music doesn't match it. It's kind of strange. Yeah, very strange. Yeah, exactly in a, in a, exactly the same what you're thinking about it, I'm thinking about it. And that doesn't fit. No, okay, go back to it and play it. AI could replace. No, you still got another clip playing, Rob. I'm happy to comment on it.

Yeah, go ahead, comment on it until he finds the video. Yeah, like this is happening in school districts across the country. Basically, the kid goes on to read an incredibly graphic and pornographic piece of literature that is presented prominently in a middle school library. And this is- Instead it was like the first book

when he walked in, which is insane. It's outright grooming. It's happening. It's probably comes up afterwards. And his father was- Yeah, I agree. I do not mean to make this political because it should not be political.

But I will make it political because Ron DeSantis, his great credit, said that is no place in schools and they called him a book banner. The Democrat Party says that's okay. And that needs to really set into people. Again, I hope it's not political. I don't think most Democrats even support that crap.

But as a political issue, they went after Ron DeSantis for trying to say this has no place in our schools. And you read this, you listen to this graphic telling him, by the way, that's one of thousands of examples that we have found. There is a targeted campaign that is reflected in some pieces of legislation now in California to say that it's okay to rob a child of their innocence. It's not a big deal. In fact, it's a good thing. See, the problem is robbed, do you have it now? Or if you can play it, I want, I want to see him reading this.

The reaction, go to, yeah, go to 10 seconds into it. There you go. Press play without the... Scraitor. Yeah. I was in the library and this book was on a stand. I'd like to read you a page. And this book was on a stand. I'd like to read you a page. My back over my hips as I ask if we should take off, take our clothes off. And he's saying yes before I finish my sentence. He's pulling off my t-shirt laughing when I can't undo his shirt buttons.

He's undoing my belt. I'm reaching into his bedside drawer for a condom. We're kissing again, we're rolling over. Obviously you can see where this is going. I don't know if it's because we're feeling especially emotional or these past couple of weeks have been too much, but this reminds me so much of the first time we had sex. We were both fucking terrified and the whole thing was kind of terrible because we didn't know what we were doing. Good of mom's back. But it was good too. So good.

Because we were a mess of emotions. And we were scared and excited. And everything felt new. So this sort of thing, this sort of feels like that. Nick touches me like he scared that any minute. Now this book was at my middle school. And it was on a stand. When I rented it out to show my dad it,

the librarian asked if I wanted more and if I wanted a graphic novel version. The graphic novel version. The fabulous, but I hardly heard. That's a comic book. Of course. I'm only shocked people are surprised. This is everywhere.

Dad, kids. You're good. Okay, good. I was asking for you. Yeah, I'll take another three minutes. So is this is everywhere. That kids fall there. Okay, good. I was asking for you. Yeah, I'll take another three minutes. So that's my son, 11 years old, and went to his library and found that by the entry door of our library,

this is the smut that he is finding. I don't care whether it's gay, straight, bisexual, whatever the terms are for all this stuff doesn't need to be at our school. Doesn't need to be at my 11-year-olds library. And then as far as genderqueer, I've got a son in the high school as well. And this is bullshit. We know it. All right, We do not need to be having literature that showing boys how to suck dick. All right. This is a very, very frustrated about it. Okay. And you may think that schools know the best for our children. You know who know the best for our children? The parents.

This is not an isolated example. There's thousands and thousands. No, no, that about this is why gays against groomers are doing what they're doing. We had them on two weeks ago. Yeah, so but for me, you know how historically there are some arguments that Republicans

lost where they lost 92% of the black vote when they lost at Barry Goldwater. You look at how some arguments where you know, you lost the Hispanic vote because, hey, they're for this. This is the kind of thing that could dramatically turn parents against the Democratic vote.

Because it is say somebody that just votes just to vote and they don't think about all the details that's going on, but they say, wait a minute. I'm voting for this and that's what the Democrats support. I just don't support that. So they may going on, but they said, wait a minute, I'm voting for this, and that's what the Democrats support, I just don't support that. So they may go independent, they may go, I know earlier, Teddy, you were saying, Joe Manchin was on a show,

were they were asking him to say, how are you, is there any chance that you could run and he said, hey, you may run as an independent, there's gonna be opportunities to look elsewhere because the Democratic Party argument today is losing a lot of logical arguments for parents. I

completely agree. I think it's a opportunity for the other side to make the presentation to connect with the parents. A couple of the stories before we wrap up.

I want to talk about this wonderful capitalist. I don't know if you've ever heard of him. His one, the best capitalist out there. It's become a little bit more proud and proud to talk about it. His name is the best capitalist out there, who is becoming a little

bit more proud and proud to talk about it. His name is Bernie Sanders. If you heard this guy before, why doesn't he get his book away from free? Yeah, he's got a net worth somewhere between five to eight million dollars. He was upset when he was called out on it earlier. I want you to play the clip first, Rob, of what happened with him and what's as a Mark Wayne Mullen when they're going back and forth. Just play the first, if you can, I don't know if you have the clip, it's the Forbes clip, I send it to you on YouTube, it's not on, it's a YouTube link I sent you. If you go on YouTube and you type in Bernie Sanders and you type in his name Mark Wayne

Mullen, you'll see it. And it's go to the second one, the seven minute one. Yeah, obviously we're not going to watch the whole thing, but I want you to start it off. So first of all, they cut off Howard Schultz, the founder of Starbucks. He lets him finish his thought. He finishes the story then he comes back and go about 20 seconds into it and press play and then we want to see the last minute As you might imagine go a little bit further on to the very curious to understand what happened in Buffalo your anti-union as a CEO your Anti-union busting or your four union bus and I'm not saying your anti-union

I'm just saying that it seems like to me as a former CEO, not nearly at the success that you were at, and I'm not trying to defend your company, because quite frankly, politically we're on totally different as the spectrum. And so the irony of this hearing is actually kind of funny. It's got more than 70 million dollars. And I do want to point out some hypocrisy about this hearing with a chairman. What's this? Not trying to get personal, all this information is going to be very public. But the fact that you can't defend your company

because you want to have a good relationship with your employees and you believe in employee value, which we all do, any CEO knows its success of our companies are based on our employees. We get that. But it seems like unions today, all they want to do is fight with their employees or their employer.

They same employer that is hiring those team members. And that friction causes a very volatile and tough workplace. And the company and employees aren't the same. Can you go 10 seconds? Keep going, 10 seconds, I'm going. Bernie is more to 8 million. Keep going.

And unions just keep testing. Just keep testing. You need to be an executive. but I take offense to the chairman point out that all CEOs are corrupt because they're millionaires. You know, if you make a lot of money, you're corrupt. Yet it's bothering to me because Mr. Chairman, you yourself have been very successful. Rightfully so, glad you have.

And you've been in office for 28 years, and your wife has immersed a wealth of over $8 million. And in fact, your quote on being wealthy and being a millionaire is, well, if you write a best seller, you can be a millionaire too. If you can be a millionaire, why can't Mr. Schultz and other CEOs be millionaires and be honest too? If that's the case, then why is it that the Mr. Schultz who actually creates jobs and

the best seller of a book isn't creating any jobs? Why is it that he's corrupt and you're not? Straight up one atom. Why is it that all CEOs are corrupt because they're wealthy and yet are chairman who is wealthy and I'm glad you are You're not So fast forward now when they have their back afford any China defendants as this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen to be successful

Right there. Go ahead. Thank you. Well, let me respond. It's the senator did mention my name, I think And I think you got an all-time record here. You've made more miss statements in a shorter period of time than I have ever heard. Please correct me. If I'm worth $8 million, excuse me. No public, excuse me. Yeah, go ahead.

All right, excuse me. Yes, sir. I'm worth $8 million. That's good news to me. I'm not aware of it. That's a lie. All right. Number two.

I heard a public records. That's the approach. You're probably looking at some phony right wing in the net stop at eight. So, all right, you should read beyond that. It is not true. It's all right. I'm all the records. No, it is not public. Okay. Well, you made it. It's not a million on your public record. You make point. It is. Excuse me, I've got the bike down. Number two, I have one of the bike down. Okay, you can pause it here.

I'll get some comments and then I'm gonna show one minute clip and then we'll wrap it up. Go ahead, when you see something like this with Bernie, going after guys like Howard Schultz who's created 400, 2000 jobs, what do you think about this exchange? I'm an entrepreneur, you're an entrepreneur. Creating values hard and it takes risk.

And you need capital and you need labor. You need a balance between the two. But you have no value created unless you have an individual with a drive and the ambition to work the extra nights, wake up the early mornings, and assume all of the responsibility. You see, all Bernie looks at is the advantage,

but he does not realize that at any time when he was CEO of Starbucks, while he was the sole owner, he could have been open to lawsuits, he could have been open to mass client walkouts, and if it goes bankrupt, who's the one that then has to go to bankruptcy court? Are the employees that go into bankruptcy court? They go find another job.

But when you're an entrepreneur, you're not saying, okay, I want the upside, but I want the downside, and guess what? Most of businesses in America go to the downside direction. They do not succeed. That does mean they go bankrupt, but they shut or they fold or they get bought, or they just kind of taper out.

And so it's very easy to criticize Howard Schultz. And I have a lot of problems with Starbucks as a company, politically, but that is an unbelievably hard business to scale. I can't think of, I mean, maybe your business Patrick might be harder, but I mean, it's pretty impressive. But I mean, I gotta be honest. The other insurance is hard to think of.

But think about it, it's labor intensity. It's a, he turned a commodity into something that was special. So coffee was never something that was considered to be an experience or worth paying up for. So he upsold something that was just so widespread that people would have in their homes. And you have to hire hundreds of thousands of people, the turnover is immense. You got to train them, you have to have the rent, and you got to scale it against also, once you create the genre of coffee service immediately

of a thousand competitors, right? Duncan Donuts changed their model, Krispy Kreme's, and he still stayed excellent. And so Donald's built cafes. Yes, that's right. And he still pummeled them, and he still did a good job. And their coffee's not even that good at Starbucks, and he kept on doing it. And I mean, I don't think it's very good compared to most other, but I think it's admirable. The way Howard Schultz defended himself, because he said, look, I earned that money. And that's my one of my favorite words in the English language is earn. That's

right. And he tried to cut them off, by the way. That's right. And Bernie Sanders has not earned anything. Now, he might have some book deals or whatever, but Bernie Sanders has never, because he's a bum. He was a bum mayor of Burlington. He was a bummed-fail congressman, and he's a bum senator. He's never created any value in his life, where he's had to say, you know what? I'm gonna take risk.

I'm gonna assume responsibility to create voluntary value, or someone's gonna wanna transact with me. And so Bernie Sanders enjoys being rich. He does not know what it takes to get there, but it's really the core element of the socialist worldview, resentment. I wanna show this.

So for the longest time, I love that, by the way. For the longest time, he would always criticize millionaires, millionaires and billionaires, millionaires and billionaires, millionaires and billionaires. There's this one minute clip that was done by think progress. There no longer around, it was done. It was ran by a guy named Judd, want to say and you know they were more on the hill or Clinton side so they did not like a socialist get in the moment

that we're getting for american progress so he made this video this one minute video on twitter if you can go to it with the timeline it's not this one rob if you can find it he made this one-minute video it's just go to my twitter go back to my twitter account and uh... if if you uh... you should find it rather if you again this is one i text you as well right there right if he can zoom out on that one i watch this when you zoom out k play from the beginning just watch when he stopped saying millionaires. So if I'm a millionaire,

what millionaires and billionaires? For billionaires and millionaires. For millionaires and billionaires. So good. See this when he gets the books. A proliferation of millionaires and billionaires. Now watch this. For millionaires and billionaires. Of millionaires and billionaires. Now watch this again. For millionaires and billionaires,

of millionaires and billionaires. They total love. Millionaires and billionaires, millionaires and billionaires. This video is made by Democrats. Millionaires and billionaires. And billionaires. Millionaires and billionaires.

Millionaires and billionaires. Well, now he's a millionaire, 2016. This is a budget of the billionaire class by the billionaire class and for the billionaire class. But enough about the billionaire. Billion ads in his administration. Billion ads. Billion ads and the wealthiest people.

Billion ads and the wealthy. My hand full of billion ads. Another billion ads. Billion ads. Allow billion ads. Multimillion ads. Millions. Multimillion ads. Multimillion ads. And billion ads. If you are, multi-millionaires and billionaires. A multi-millionaires and billionaires.

If you are a billionaires, not just one percent, we will be an administration for the working families of this country and not for billionaires, campaign contributors. The day he becomes a billionaire, and we call it a trillionaires. I mean, that's his formula right there on what he does. Charlie, you see something like that, what do you think about? I got a lot of work to do because he influences a lot of young people. And it's very easy to be generous of other people's money.

Value is hard to come by. A free society allows people to use their reason and their agency and their abilities to create something ex nihilow out of nothing. And we live in the wealthiest, most prosperous society ever for a reason. And he's trying to stop that. His ideas are directly against what has made the society so wealthy and prosperous and which really is that entrepreneurial underbelly. But what's Charlie's long term vision to wrap up? It's for me. Does Charlie Kirk have any vision of one day being a president? I don't know.

I know, but I get asked all the time. Charlie, you're going to run for office all this. I love what I get to do. I do three hours of radio every day. We're one of the most successful podcasts out there. Please subscribe, everybody. If you can, you can take out your Apple podcasts and subscribe. Put the link below, Rob. So we can make sure they can see you.

That would bless me. Thank you. Turning point USA or is it really correct? And I'll get to that. Yeah. So I love what I I love to educate. I love to learn. I love to read all weekend and then try to distill those ideas and ways that people can understand. That's where I'm my most passionate. And then we have Turning Point USA, which is our movement of hundreds of thousands, soon to be millions of people that believe in freedom fighting for it. And so I'd rather be a movement leader and a thought leader than just the politician. That's where I find myself to have the biggest impact and the most joy.

But we don't know, right? And you got to keep a little bit open. You don't know what's going to happen. Well, first of all, I can't, I'm 29 years old. So I can't legally run for the presidency. Six more years. I don't want to be president. I think it would be a crummy job. I have a lot of work to do. Okay. It'd be a crummy job. Think about it. I mean, it depends on the circumstances, but you got to, you got nonstop pressure. You got the deep state coming in your whole time. You like it though. You like a fight. I do love the fight.

That is the job of a fighter. I'm not going to run for president. I'm not doing that. The good thing is today, they came out with somebody that researched you at this and the average person. There's going to be people born today that are going to live up to 140 years. So essentially, we have 111 more years to go.

In the days of Noah literally. In the scriptures, they say you're going to be living in the days of Noah. Now I know we're living in the days of Noah. The sons were a hundred when they went on that trip. That's exactly right. I'll say one thing to you. I've seen a ton of your clips online. I completely appreciate how you walk into enemy territory and hold people accountable. A lot of times their arguments are just emotional and you have logic and facts on your side.

So that's respect. What campuses can we see you on coming up? I think you're very necessary voice, especially where we see the direction that Gen Z is going. What's that looking like in the future? Yes, so we just finished our campus tour. I did my mostly peaceful campus visit at University California Davis where they sent Antifa and they came with weapons and made big news. Elon Musk commented on it. It was all over the place. But we just finished our campus tour. We have some big events coming up. They can go to tpusa.com.

Start a high school or a college chapter with turning point USA. That is our movement. It's the crux of everything I do. And we do the field program is the largest everfreedom field program in the history of the country. And we have people that disagree with us. In fact, if you look at our campus events where I'm really proud of this, anytime I speak anywhere, I have anyone who disagrees go to the front of the line. And in fact, I tell the crowd not to boo them or heckle them. I love the fight. I love dialogue.

In fact, I think that's what makes us human. Dialogue literally means through reason, through the logos. I think when we stop talking, we go into a totalitarian dystopia. And I think we have to have more difficult conversations, lean into the topics that are considered to be politically incorrect or third-rail. And it makes life fun and interesting and worth living. I think- Charlie, it's been great having you on. Like Adam said, we agree you're a very, very necessary voice.

Thank you. And you're going to be a force to be reckoned with for decades to come, whether it's in office or doing what you're doing, or something new. Who knows what's going to happen, but we're looking forward to it either way. Thank you. Appreciate you for coming out gang.

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