PBD Podcast - Charlie Kirk | PBD Podcast | Ep. 314

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Starting point is 00:00:34 Episode 314, we have the great Charlie, Charlie Kirk in a house. And by the way, let me tell you what, this is a special podcast because this may be the last broadcast podcast he does in his 20s because he's turning 30 this week. I'm getting way too old for this. I'm going to retire 30. This is it for you. Then a good run. Yeah, that makes sense. Somehow I don't believe that. You've got a lot more

Starting point is 00:01:00 work to do. You've got a lot of things to do. And you're not the type of guy that's going to slow down. But, you know, obviously we're sitting here going through all the stories, and we wish we didn't have these stories to go through. We wish the stories were slightly different, but the world is a mess today. First, we're dealing with Ukraine and Russia last year, the last six, 12, whatever the timeline's been. We're dealing with economy, we're dealing with interest rates, we're dealing with people defaulting on car payments, we're dealing with people defaulting on car payments,

Starting point is 00:01:25 we're dealing with corporations defaulting on their debt payments, we're dealing with unemployment right now, concerning what's going to happen, what that is, I'm going to move, or is it not going to move if it's not moving? Jerome Powell wants to continue increasing interest rates that's scary for some people, people are no longer buying houses, even with all that stuff going on. Then all of a sudden, this happens this last week. Kamaz, Israel, Palestine, and protesting down the street from your 300 people protesting houses, even with all that stuff going on, then all of a sudden this happens this last week. Kamas, Israel, Palestine, and protesting down the street from your 300 people protesting

Starting point is 00:01:49 down the street from our office. And Florida. To the point where DeSantis have to come out on tweet about it, the governor had to come out on tweet about it. But anyways, I'll pause. It's great to have you. I know you obviously follow in the story very closely. What's on your mind?

Starting point is 00:02:01 What do you think in what's going on? Yeah, I just want to, first for the audience to make sure everyone's thinking about this clearly This was not a typical military type attack when Russia invaded Ukraine Which was bad they went after military targets I mean some civilians get caught in the crossfire But the targets were military in nature. This is completely different This was Hamas that penetrated the border. They did engage some IDF Soldiers and then they did a detour and went to concerts and cabuts as women and children.

Starting point is 00:02:26 This is the closest to the Holocaust that any of us have seen in our life. 1,200 Jews slaughtered in one day and from paragliders and I mean you see at the concert videos these young ladies are running through the fields and they're mowing them down mercilessly and now we know well over 15 Americans are dead. I might actually be more than that now because the death tally keeps on getting higher and higher. And I'll be honest, Patrick, you know,

Starting point is 00:02:52 the Israel situation is important to talk about geopolitically. What's how American passport holders, American citizens have been reacting here domestically has really captured my attention. What do you mean by that? Well, for example, the student body president at NYU Law sent out a message the other day saying, Israel brought this upon themselves.

Starting point is 00:03:10 31 Harvard students said, this is a great thing, right? Not students, student organizations. That's correct. That's correct. Yeah, that's right. And Columbia University, something very similar. George Washington University, something very similar. Cal State Long Beach. Cal State Long Beach, Cal State

Starting point is 00:03:25 Long Beach, some of the student organizers, Patrick, they were bringing out images of the paraglider as if they said these are freedom fighters. These people are sick. There is no middle ground with this. There is no other side of the story. This is the mass occurring of women and children. So I think that we have to take a step back and ask ourselves, you know, how do you get to a place where that kind of moral toxin becomes so infiltrated into your country, into a zeitgeist, into the narrative? Then you have Black Lives Matter Global Network in Chicago. They deleted this tweet, probably not because they don't believe it, but because, quite honestly,

Starting point is 00:04:00 they got such backlash where they also had the paraglider where they said, you know, a fight for justice, somewhere as a fight for justice, somewhere as a fight for justice anywhere. So this has been, I'll be honest, I do this for a living, I do three hours a radio day, three hours a podcast. This has been a very heavy week. I mean, heavy morally, heavy geopolitically, and I don't see it getting better anytime soon.

Starting point is 00:04:20 The entire region is blowing up, it could turn into a regional war, and not to mention our own country is collapsing in real time. So, so I don't I fully agree with you if you want to show this Rob's so the audience can see this as well. They deleted it. They deleted it, but this has been all over the place. We know why. You know what I love about this, though. Let me tell what I love about this, because during times of crisis, everybody reveals themselves. That's who they are. Great. You come on. You show that and then all of a sudden,

Starting point is 00:04:45 hey, NBA, how come you've been quiet? Didn't you put BLM all over the place? Yeah. Hey, hey, NFL, hey, what happened, Apple? Hey, all these other, wouldn't you guys all support us at this? What do you think about this? Do you support us?

Starting point is 00:04:56 Well, no, we don't support us. Let's just take kind of quiet. They're, all guys are saying what they're saying. But you know, the question I got for you is the following. Obviously, we live in America, and everybody that's listened to this from all over the world, whatever country you're in, your priority is where you live. It should be. Yes. It's where your kids are, it's where your family is.

Starting point is 00:05:15 You know, your priority is the state you live in, your priorities, our priorities here. The people that live in Israel, their priorities, Israel, everybody's priorities, what they live in. The concern here is, Vinny, can you share some of those numbers from October 2021 to October 2023? Yep. Who has crossed a southern border if you don't mind giving some of that data? All right, so you guys know how many special interest

Starting point is 00:05:38 illegal aliens have been caught? Is this the order? Yeah, this is it. So for everybody that doesn't know, special interest alien is anyone from countries that pose a national security threat that might support or shelter terrorism. Customs and border patrol have estimated

Starting point is 00:05:53 that 1.5 million illegals entered the US without being detected. No wonder why Charlie, because I feel like this is all a plan. Here are the numbers. Agents recorded special interest aliens. Syria coming into the country from October 2021 to October 2023 patent two years. Syria 538 Yemen 139 Iran 659 Iraq 123 Afghanistan 6386 Lebanon 164 Egypt 3153 Pakistan 1613 Turkey

Starting point is 00:06:29 30830 and Uzbekistan 13624 and let's not forget Pat Oh, well, and tell you know this 200 the FBI have caught on the terror watch list 200 that we caught let alone the ones that we have no idea about. So then that goes to ask the people's question, Pat, why is the border, why did they let the border wide open this entire time? That's exactly why the freaking reason is, and it's gonna get worse.

Starting point is 00:06:55 What do you mean by that's why the reason is? Like, but by pat, here's my thing. For the past couple of years, Charlie, we all of us have been watching Pat, Mallorcais in front of Congress, and they're like, from everybody yelling at them, why is the border, why don't, no answer, he beats around the bush, he can't give a specific answer.

Starting point is 00:07:12 It's almost as if Pat, all these people aren't here right now to do something crazy to us in this country because, as you know, the Hamas leader. But why though? I think because one of them is to cause chaos, Pat, because guess what, election is coming up too. What, they can't do pandemic again.

Starting point is 00:07:27 How are you gonna keep everybody at home? This is, uh, best remember, House of Cards, season five, episode seven. They did a fake terrorist thing at a polling thing. Nobody's gonna go. If something happens at a polling center, they're gonna shut down. Guess what?

Starting point is 00:07:40 Who's gonna go vote, Pat? You're gonna vote from your house. Why, why else? Is it a humanitarian thing? You think they care about Venezuelans and Mexicans and people, by the way, these people that are coming in, Charlie, you know, all these, that's 18 to 35. They're military fighting age, man, Pat,

Starting point is 00:07:55 and the UN has given them cards, Charlie, with money on it and a cell phone saying, hey, go get an apartment, and when we call you, that's right. Like, then, then, this is actually pretty shocking to me because I don't want to just gloss over this. Oh, I have been, like these are people from the Middle East

Starting point is 00:08:11 that they've caught at the US border crossing. But that's just one year. Okay. That's just in one year. And that's who we've caught, now who's not in the way. Right. And this is who's been caught.

Starting point is 00:08:20 Meaning they didn't catch everybody. So why would someone from Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, all these countries, why would they be coming through the southern border? Let me stay on this series of questions. I mean, here's where I'm going with this. Okay. So let's say they're doing it intentionally. Let's let's process one, who is they? Two, why are they doing it intentionally? Yeah, I think that I mean, it's obviously they're doing it intentionally. And let's just say the Democrat Party and moderate Republicans, they have different reasons

Starting point is 00:08:46 for it. And the Democrat Party thinks that they get more power politically if they allow the third world to come into the country. They're not totally right about that actually. It turns out that, you know, third world people that enter America, they have values that are against white, upper, middle class, woke liberalism. But don't take my word for it. Look at the Castro brothers. The Castro brothers, who one was a mayor of San Antonio, they're one served in the Obama administration, housing urban development, one of them ran the Democrat National Committee. There's a clip that you could find on CBS face the nation. They have memory hold this clip.

Starting point is 00:09:16 So if you find it, Kudos on you, where they said, you know, they were in this interview and they said, hey, and just a couple of years, you're going to be calling the electoral votes for Texas because, for Democrats, couple of years, you're gonna be calling the electoral votes for Texas because of Democrats, because of how many Hispanics are coming into Texas. These are two card carrying partisan Democrats that are telling you that Texas will become blue, will become Democrat because they're allowing

Starting point is 00:09:40 people from the third world to come. Now, mind you, Patrick, what I just said, I get attacked by the media. They say, oh, this is a great replacement conspiracy theory and that that that that's what's called a thought terminating cliche they say it to you so you don't actually think about it but why else would they keep the border completely wide open there is no border right now and border patrol is not deterring entry in the United States they are facilitating entry into the United States. They are co-sponsoring it. I live in a border state. We are experiencing 5,000 a day.

Starting point is 00:10:08 5,000 a day. And Border Patrol is basically saying, come to us. Here's your court date. Here's your piece of paper into the interior United States. You know, seen a couple years maybe and they don't show up for their court date. Right, so there's two aspects to this. First is just the flow of people that are coming

Starting point is 00:10:22 that are gonna destabilize our social services that look with happening in New York, right? They don't have the infrastructure to support it. The more immediate concern and caution I have is sleeper cells in the United States that are from terrorist countries that could be activated to do harm against the homeland. And that's not fear-mongering.

Starting point is 00:10:40 The head of Hamas said this tomorrow, he's called for it, look at it, oh, no word. Yeah, Khaled Mishal. I want to make sure I'm accurate. Oh, you're right. Khaled Mishal called for it. International news. It translated in English.

Starting point is 00:10:51 No, but I want to make sure I'm accurate because I get attacked by the media for, you know, fear mongering. No, you're not. You're actually right. I have a whole way. Please read it. Khaled Mishal, the, he was a global day of jihad tomorrow.

Starting point is 00:11:02 Yeah, he said show anger, especially on Friday and Muslim countries, also among Muslim, the sport around the world. And he called it Friday of jihad tomorrow. Yeah, he said show anger especially on Friday and Muslim countries also among Muslim this boy around the world and he called it Friday of Alaska flood. He said this will send a message of rage to Zionist America. He asked for financial help from all Muslims around the world to help their money

Starting point is 00:11:16 and he called it a financial jihad. He asked Muslims to give the fighters of Gaza in order to compensate them for destruction. The more important thing, this is final words. Funds are important, but today we are asking for your blood and souls to be sacrificed for Palestine. So I'm giving everybody a heads up, and that's why they always, that's tomorrow.

Starting point is 00:11:34 That's tomorrow, it's Friday the 13th, and Charlie, with everything that's going on, with the failure of security, with a message like that from this demon. Thank God for our founding fathers. For giving us a second amendment. Thank you God. Because guess what? I dare when ship pops off here, Pat,

Starting point is 00:11:49 God, you know, I feel bad for it by that happened over there. Nobody had guns for three to six hours. Apparently the best military, one of the best ones in the world just disappeared. And over here, I'm proud of America because we got guns. Come try that shit with us. Let's stay on this. Let's stay on this.

Starting point is 00:12:04 I actually want to go a little bit deeper Okay, so the the people in Texas. We're gonna turn it blue, you know the more immigrants be bring fine Totally get that strategically. Yeah, respect it fine. I totally understand what you're doing to the left You want to turn your state to be more blue cool? Do your thing Texas been an enemy for a long time? I get it However, the they people, okay, not the lower level people, the they people. The they people typically have money. The they people typically want to control their wealth.

Starting point is 00:12:33 These are the puppet masters. These are the guys that have the money that are controlling. Why would they be OK with allowing 70,000, whatever the number was, to come through knowing these day people are probably legacy people who have wives, who have kids, who have grandkids. Why would they do that? No one that could jeopardize the community therein,

Starting point is 00:12:57 the value of their property, the value of their company, the value of their business? Why would they do that? Alexander Solutioniz in wrote the Gulag Archipelago, which brought down the Soviet Union, and he said, thanks to ideology, this all happened. And I'm gonna give you an example, and I'll tie it together.

Starting point is 00:13:11 You can go to the George Soros Open Society Foundation website and just show people. He believes in an ideological campaign that borders the worst thing ever. Sovereign nations are the problem. George Soros is a devout believer in that ideology. And what has been an eye opener for me, Patrick, and I can use a couple examples.

Starting point is 00:13:26 Reality is not the ultimate verdict of how you act. Ideology can actually be more critical. In New York City, a week and a half ago, a young lady was sitting on a park bench with her boyfriend. You might have covered this story, right? Yeah, what we did.

Starting point is 00:13:41 351 AM, you know, a black guy comes by, so it's the throw to the boyfriend. She doesn't even administer first aid. That's not the point. It's very strange. When the police went to her, she refused to give the race of the attacker. Oh my God. Because she did not want people to think it was done for race.

Starting point is 00:13:56 Wow. I'll give you another example. I'll give you another example. A young lady was gang raped in Germany by Arabs. Okay. I'm not saying all Arabs do it, but unfortunately it's a pattern that we're seeing spike in Europe. It's a thing. Arab Muslims. She goes, the police says, I was gang raped.

Starting point is 00:14:11 They said, please describe your attackers. And she says it was six white Germans. So they go and try to find six white Germans. They failed. They come back and she admits, oh, actually, it was six Arab Muslims. I didn't want to tell you because I didn't want to increase the amount of anti-immigrant fervor. Because she protected her rapists because she was taking ideology over reality.

Starting point is 00:14:32 Patrick, why, why, why? Why does Soros want the borders open? He's a Davote to an ideological, there I say pseudo-religion to create the world into a different type of place. No borders, no cash, no property. You can call it heaven on earth, utopia. You can even call it immunitizing the eschaton. That's a religious term that we're gonna bring,

Starting point is 00:14:53 the we're going to bring the eternal promise of paradise here, Paradisio, as Dante would say, and they want it now. And they think that the problem is Western society. The problem is private property. The problem is private property. The problem is America. And if you look at through that lens, all of a sudden you say, wow, Biden is not incompetent, it's intentional. You destroy the dollar.

Starting point is 00:15:15 You keep the border open. You weaken the military. It gets you closer to a one-world government of which they are bragging in the World Economic Forum. Vision 2030. You'll own nothing, you'll be happy. America will no longer be the world economic form vision 2030 you own nothing you'll be happy the miracle no longer be the world superpower anyway but let's fill it up let's let's but yeah let's still stay on this okay for every out of the 900 billionaires that we have in

Starting point is 00:15:34 America for every one sorrows how many billionaires power players are against it meaning do I believe sorrows has another 20 bodies that think and believe what he believes in? Sure, I think he's got another 50. Sure, I don't know what the number is. I don't think it's that big of a number that you think it is, but I think he does have a group of people. He has a circle.

Starting point is 00:15:57 Okay, I'm with it. I think that's a smaller than 50, more than 10 people. Let's say it's something like that. But the other guys are not with it. I don't see a griffin being fought. I don't see Schwartzman being fought. I don't see you know a buffered being fought. I don't see a musk being fought. I don't see even a Bezos being fought. I don't see a lot of these bigger power players being fought. So musters credit is fighting against it. Bezos is afraid. His ex-wife is for it. Mackenzie Bezos is pumping

Starting point is 00:16:28 billions of dollars into the most radical left-wing causes you can imagine. I'll give you another name that's not talked about. A day vote to the ideological agenda. Lorraine Powell Jobs, one of the wealthiest women on the planet, Steve Jobs's widow. We're $20 billion. She owns the Atlantic magazine. She also runs something called the Emerson Collective. You could look at it. She's one of the biggest donors to that. She's an ideological devotee, but Patrick, I will agree with you. If you get a hundred random billionaires in the country, every industry, right? Sports, oil, auto manufacturing. The problem is many of them are cowards, and they do not want to fight. They would rather have their business be protected,

Starting point is 00:17:05 they would rather be able to have a backup plan. Your business is not being protected. No, but they're not fighting Patrick. Musk is, that's why Musk is being criminally investigated by the Southern District of New York for a house. Did you see the story? A glass house, that is a warning shot to Musk to tell him the back off and he doesn't, to his credit.

Starting point is 00:17:22 Musk has done such good for humanity to be what Carnegie and Rockefeller and JP Morgan used to be, because we think so negatively those people, but they love the America. We have a different problem in our country. The powerful hate the country that they got rich in. It's very bizarre and it's incredibly insidious. So you think about it, right?

Starting point is 00:17:43 If you look at the elites, you're always gonna have elites, right, you're always gonna have a ruling. There's incredibly insidious. So you think about it, right? If you look at the elites, you're always going to have elites, right? You're always going to have a ruling. There's always been one. And this idea of egalitarianism that everyone's going to be equal is garbage. We should then argue for better elites, elites that want to steward the country and care about the middle class, not elites that are worried about executing a cultural and political blitzkrieg on the fabric of the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world. And it doesn't take a lot of them, Patrick. You get a Soros, you get a Lorraine Paljobs,

Starting point is 00:18:12 another name for you, Reid Hoffman, another name for you, Mark Benninghoff. Benninghoff's a legit Marxist. Like that guy is to the left of Stonl. He bought time magazine. Yeah, and he's a sales force. And these are just off the top of my head, right? Yeah, so you get, so you get Lorraine Paljobs, you get Benninghoff, right he's Salesforce. He's Salesforce. And these are just how I found my head, right? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:25 So you get Lorraine Paljobs, you get Benihoff, right? You get Mackenzie Bezos. You get Soros. You're talking about series capital, in addition to the Ford Foundation, the MacArthur Foundation, the Bill and Millinda Gates Foundation, and in addition to the institutional capture and control, and then you get some people that is quietly, like, I think I agree. I think Jeff Bezos is probably in private, more libertarian than he is liberal,

Starting point is 00:18:47 based on everyone that I didn't know that knows him. But he wants to put like rockets in space and he owns the Washington Post. He doesn't seem like someone who's gonna fight billionaire tyranny. Instead, he's going to do what most people do when evil's on the march. Nothing.

Starting point is 00:19:02 Pat, can I ask you a question? Like if you're, we're talking about these massive entrepreneurs that have built billion dollar plus companies, correct? Built on the basic premise of free market capitalism, entrepreneurship, building these types of companies. How does someone like that who builds something that understands what it means to create jobs

Starting point is 00:19:23 and build companies. How do they go so far left to this Marxist ideology? You called it egalitarianism. You interviewed the one guy that wanted to bump up everybody's pay in the company to $70,000. It was sort of contentious. So I'm priced. I'm priced.

Starting point is 00:19:41 Yeah, damn price. Exactly. How do you go from building such a massive company, but built on the principles of what America's founded on, capitalism, free enterprise, the free market, and they go so far left. How does that happen? Well, I mean, I'm really trying to process this.

Starting point is 00:19:55 It's either second generation money, so meaning you didn't earn it, because if you earned it, it's a different mindset, but many of these guys earned it. Okay, jobs as wife got it. Okay, Melinda Gates, fine. Mackenzie Bezos. Mackenzie many of these guys earned it. Okay, jobs as a wife got it. Okay, Melinda Gates fine. Mackenzie Bezos. Mackenzie Bezos totally get it.

Starting point is 00:20:08 Those three, totally a year into our community. I'll walk by and I'll see some of the people that, or maybe they married, they're the second or third wife of a guy after he made them money. And then the first wife's no longer in a picture. Well, the first wife was probably, but then he goes, well, you see when they talk to them, they just look down at you sometimes.

Starting point is 00:20:24 I'm like, okay, very weird weird and somehow very friendly, right? You process both of these and how it is. And then you go and you ask another question and you say, okay, so maybe someone's got something on these guys. Maybe they're scared of somebody. Maybe they're frightened of somebody. Maybe somebody even more powerful than them has got, you know, them under control for whatever reason.

Starting point is 00:20:45 But the more and more and more you go deeper, you're like, dude, this is gonna eventually end up hurting you. In what way do you think this is gonna favor you? Actually, what do you think is gonna happen? I understand somebody, like for example, proxy wars. Okay, I understand a proxy war. Why do I understand a proxy war? To me, you know what a proxy war is?

Starting point is 00:21:04 Oh, Adam, you won't believe what Vinnie said to you. Vinnie, you won't believe what Adam said to you. And I'll watch you guys fight. Okay, that's a proxy war, right? That's instigating. Shut up, Adam. That's instigating to see that. So maybe you do that to create division

Starting point is 00:21:19 and the enemy's house. Okay, deceptive, yes, dark for sure. Sun two, yeah, totally is. But you know what, I get it, because at least it's what? Someone else is else. Yeah, yeah. But imagine you pin your own kids against each other

Starting point is 00:21:36 and you intentionally, you know, get the front security, let's just say you're living a gated community to get him to get fired. And you replace them with sloppy people that are 82 year old security. You know how you go to a hotel, they got these 82 year old security people,

Starting point is 00:21:54 they hire and you're like, who's this guy gonna stop? Right, this guy's gonna stop, anybody know? Then you allow people to come into your community for what? For them to invade your house and hurt your own kid? That's the part where there's a disconnect

Starting point is 00:22:07 that doesn't make sense. So some of them are insulated. I mean, they have priced out the real estate market in their home of Sun Valley, Aspen, Kenny Bunkport. They are legitimately isolated from any of the consequences of their political decisions, right? I mean, if you go to Aspen, you would think that, you know, like we have solved every problem, right? I mean, if you go to Aspen, you would think that, you know, like we have solved every problem, right?

Starting point is 00:22:25 I mean, if you go to Aspen in July, right? Everyone is like fit and trim. There's like a BMI over like 35, right? I was literally there in July. And my rise is freaking terrible. No, I'm, all of a sudden you're like, yeah, why can't we have world peace? And is there a problem? Fuck, you know what? No, it's, it's almost like you just like, I'll just end up getting like completely isolated.

Starting point is 00:22:46 Hold on. Around any of this. Well, not only that, when you are surrounded by very successful, good looking, attractive, high IQ people, that's not in their one Patrick. So they really, they are not in Compton. They are not in, you know, a neighborhood that is gonna be overrun.

Starting point is 00:23:03 They're not in the Rio Grande Valley. They're not in, you know, Curvill, Texas, that's gonna be overrun. They're not in the Rio Grande Valley. They're not in, you know, curvil, Texas. That's going to be overrun. But there's another part to this, though. And some of the billionaires look at themselves. There's two categories that I want to mention that we have. They look at themselves as masters of the universe. And these are usually tech people.

Starting point is 00:23:19 This is Larry Page, this is Sergey Brin, this is Mark Zuckerberg. I get those guys. Okay. That, for them, they really think they can reconfigure society through AI, technocracy, almost like a highly sophisticated oligarchy because they think that the problem is that we haven't had smart enough people in charge, almost ruled by committee and I want to be in charge of that committee, okay?

Starting point is 00:23:42 But the second part, Patrick, is that some of these guys will do whatever it takes so that they are favored by the Politburo. They'll give any amount of money, they really don't have any ideological spin either way. They just want to be on the winning team. If the right wing was ascendant in the country, some of these guys would be giving money to like pro-life clinics and churches.

Starting point is 00:24:04 Some of these guys just go with the wind. They want to be protected by the regime. They don't really believe anything. Let me tell you, man. I mean, okay, let's play the dark game. Let's go dark. Let's go dark. They're there.

Starting point is 00:24:17 All right, so I'm on a flight yesterday and my pilot is the pilot I like. You actually met this pilot. I don't really love that. Yeah, it's the pilot. So I see him as a, how you doing? Not good. That's okay. I said, what do you think about what's going on? Last time he was with us when we went to Milwaukee, you know, I like him. Yeah. So, so how you doing? Obviously not good. Family, house family, not good. Family in Israel. How about this? How about this? Anyways, I can't tell you everything we talked about

Starting point is 00:24:48 because I found out who he is and what he did is job in Israel. Very interesting. Very serious guy. He says to me, he says, you know what though? The Israeli community right now is very happy with Joe Biden. It's a really. Tell me why. He says because he's got our back,

Starting point is 00:25:05 and he's shown so many great things he's doing. Blinking is going there, and he won a shakans with Netanyahu, and they're shown support, and they're with us, and they're saying pro-Israel, and they're saying this, and even jump here, came out and said a couple of words. He talked about this. She went out to the squad.

Starting point is 00:25:21 That's right, which is kind of weird, right? Crazy. It's okay, so you're sitting there, you're like, maybe the center people are like, okay, these guys sound normal, right? Okay. So let's play dark. Did you need something like this for you to create a war to the point where the re-election

Starting point is 00:25:39 percentage of a president goes so high when there's a war so you can get re-elected? Maybe. Is it because the amount of chaos you learned in 2020, the elections was so chaotic, so it increases the chance of you being able to win another election because the more chaotic it was, you can tell people what we're gonna be doing and they're already accustomed to it,

Starting point is 00:25:56 maybe they'll be more open-minded to it, maybe. Is it because maybe, even on the other side for me, that I think about Netanyahu and Israel. First of all, who has the best secret intelligence in the world? Messiah. You mean to tell me? No.

Starting point is 00:26:12 You mean to tell me these guys have been that low key underground for a year, built a city like the one in Israel and they trained their guys to go in and how to break into homes and how to take people hostage. And you're telling me you didn't know seriously. And Egypt comes out by the way, the story came out and it's like, well, you know, we told

Starting point is 00:26:30 them we warned them that something was taking place. Another story came out about Egypt, right? But if you tell me what page it's on, then they said they didn't. If they're going back and forth. Yeah, they're saying they didn't. You're like, so make up your mind. Did you know or did you not know? So what is really going on?

Starting point is 00:26:42 So then I go layer people and I'll turn it over to you. It's okay. Did Israel almost, you know, because I'm talking to this other guy and he says, I said, you realize what happened in 2014? He says, yeah, I said, 2014 when they, you know, the three girls were kidnapped and then, you know, whatever happened, raped, travesty.

Starting point is 00:27:03 And then Israel comes back and kills 2000 people to, you said, it should have been 20,000. It should have been 200,000. So I said, weren't you going with this? He says, well, listen, here's what I'd like to see happen in Israel. What's that? Only Jews live in Israel.

Starting point is 00:27:18 Nobody else. We don't need to coexist. It's just not gonna work out. Is this a way for Netanyahu's legacy to be he eliminated Hamas? Is this his way for saying now I got the war, I got the card, I got the, get out of jail card for me to go straight up, a hundred thousand on the blockade of Gaza Strip, 300 thousand reservists you put up there. Now we're gonna go groundwork. We're going all fricking out because the world

Starting point is 00:27:49 gave us the permission to do so. Is that what it is? I don't know. I just keep continuing to have a lot of questions the more I think about it because, so these guys are coming up. So what are we gonna have another night 11? And they're gonna come and do what?

Starting point is 00:28:02 They're gonna go into your community. What are gonna target next? What are you gonna go next? What's gonna happen next? Oh, can we, it's not a big deal. It's never happened again. Well, that's what we thought it was never gonna happen. 9-11, before 9-11 happened, nobody thought

Starting point is 00:28:13 9-11 was gonna happen. So I just have way too many questions that makes me think about what the motives are. And if we go dark, I'll put all those things out there. Yeah. How did these guys not know this was taking place? So I've been Israel many times. The whole country's a fortress. When I first heard this story, I still have the same gut instinct

Starting point is 00:28:33 that I did initially. I find this very hard to believe. I've been to that Gaza border. You cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19 year old with an AR-15 or an automatic machine gun. That's an IDF soldier. Right, the whole country is surveilled. And so let me just kind of go through this.

Starting point is 00:28:49 We don't talk about Israeli politics very often, and most Americans don't know this. The last nine months Israel is on the brink of civil war. It's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because BB Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution.

Starting point is 00:29:05 That's not an exaggeration, right? He said the judicial branches too much power. There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu, where they anticipated tens of thousands of people that take to the streets. That's all gone, Patrick. Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead.

Starting point is 00:29:22 I'm not willing to say, to go so far that saying that Netanyahu knew or there was intelligence here, but I think some questions need to be asked. Was there a stand down order? Was there a stand down order? Six hours, I don't believe it. Israel's the side of New Jersey.

Starting point is 00:29:39 When I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border, it's 45 minutes, six hours. They're live streaming the killing of Jews, was that somebody in the government say, stand down. That is a legitimate, non-conspiracy question. The whole country is the IDF. The whole country is. And you're trying to tell me that they're going to concerts and cabutses and schools and

Starting point is 00:30:04 by reports six hours. Let's say it's three hours. That's suspect. Got it Rob? It's also not like a right wing reporting. This is from the New York Times. The long way for help as massive per unfolds in Israel. I can't think of a more liberal news outlet than the New York Times.

Starting point is 00:30:23 And by the way, I'm actually very pro-Israel. So let me be there. I mean, so I'm not exactly? I can think of a more liberal news outlet than New York. And by the way, I'm actually very pro-Israel. So let me be there. I mean, so I'm not exactly. I'm not here, we all are. No, no, I just want to make sure my position is clear here. But I would, so Patrick, there are other explanations. It's possible that the Netanyahu government was double crossed by bad agents.

Starting point is 00:30:40 Okay, that's dark, but it's not as dark as what we're talking about, okay? Another aspect is that Netanyahu might have traders in his government. Okay? That's dark, but it's not as dark as what we're talking about. Okay? Another aspect is that Netanyahu might have traders in his government, like legitimate traders that have infiltrated. I was texting with some senior people in the IDF and they said, Charlie can't say too much, but let's just say the same problem you have with the left in America we have here in Israel.

Starting point is 00:30:59 So there's something to think about. Just something to think about, right? Is that maybe there are some people within those intel agencies that aren't as sympathetic. Or maybe Patrick, maybe, they might have gotten a tip, they might have gotten whispers, but no one thought it would be 1200 Jews dead. That's a potential, right?

Starting point is 00:31:16 Because here's the essence of it. The essence is this. This is the closest thing to the Holocaust that any of us have lived through. But the fact is now, The essence is this. This is the closest thing to the Holocaust that any of us have lived through. But the fact is now, BB and the Israeli hard right government has a mandate, I gotta be careful the way I say this,

Starting point is 00:31:33 to, they're gonna try to ethnically cleanse Gaza. I mean, that's, and I don't use that term lightly, okay? They're talking about basically removing 2.5 million people in there, okay? And honestly, they have a mandate to go seek justice and revenge. They do. There is this idea that they need to have a truce or a peace treaty. That's morally crap after you see women and children be burned alive and dragged to the streets. But there are some serious questions here, Patrick, and let me tell you my pattern recognition over the last five years has become pretty sharp

Starting point is 00:32:09 COVID Maui fires, you know Epstein when I see a story and it doesn't click We're our guts are usually right This one's this one's very weird. Can I comment on the, you know, when you use the term ethnic cleansing, that will, you know, make the ears on the back. I'm not accusing you of that. No, no, no, I'm just saying that term,

Starting point is 00:32:34 actually did some research specifically on that because that is a very slippery slope. And if you actually wanna talk about what Jews, and even Christians should be most fearful of, Muslims as well is the concept of ethnic cleanse. I just wanna be very sorry to interrupt. I'm saying that's what they're gonna be accused of. But if there are some people in public life in Israel

Starting point is 00:32:58 that Patrick, what did your pilot guys say? I want only Jews in Israel, right? Okay, that is a form of ethnically cleansing because 20% of Israel's Arab months. Correct. 20% and people don't know that. And I've been to Israel several times. I was there a few months ago and I saw the protests.

Starting point is 00:33:17 Yes. You know, you don't have to be expert at Israeli politics to understand the divisiveness of politics, especially in America. We understand like Republicans, Democrats, Blacks, white, whatever it is. Similar in Israel, there's a liberal faction most based in Tel Aviv and the more the conservative faction in Jerusalem and throughout the country. And obviously the more orthodox you are, the more you're inclined to be more right wing thinking.

Starting point is 00:33:46 But I think civil war is a little premature, but there is major contentious going on there. The country was at a fissure point, right? It was split. No, just like there was calls for potential civil war here. I sort of think that's a little aggressive. But you would agree, it was hot. The country was so hot.

Starting point is 00:34:06 Just like the BLM riots here. No, no, it was not a time for unity in Israel. The thing that I think just to think about when you talk about, now I'm not saying you're accusing anything that you just use the term. So the concept of ethnic cleansing is the biggest fear of the Jewish people.

Starting point is 00:34:23 Okay, it's the whole reason that Israel was founded because of the ethnic cleansing that occurred throughout Europe for millennia, right? Obviously culminating with World War II, but there's no doubt that Hamas, that Israel could wipe out Gaza at any given point, but they do not want to participate in ethnic cleansing. Now, they would love to annihilate the terrorists,

Starting point is 00:34:50 but if you actually talk about what's going around the world today, and this is what Israel needs to kind of take note of, that's what I was talking about Patrick. I'm sorry to interrupt. This is a pro-tab. But in the summer, this every day, there were people in the streets. Yes, I saw that.

Starting point is 00:35:01 July of 2020. Yeah, the country was separating. I mean, this is such a hotbed issue right now, but if you talk about ethnic cleansing, look at what's going on in Azerbaijan and Armenia. Pat, something that... 110,000 Armenian Christians think. Yeah, nobody's talking about that.

Starting point is 00:35:16 We've seen over the last couple decades, you know, what happened in Bosnia. They were, they were, Bosnia and Christians were killing Muslims. We've seen what's going on in Myanmar. Nobody talks about that. Okay. Christians are actually, there's an article right here from the Kato Institute. Who are the most persecuted people in the world? Well, it's actually Christian. You've probably done your research on this. I, I talked about it all the time.

Starting point is 00:35:38 You go to Afghanistan, you go to Iraq, you go to Iran, you go to China, you go to Nigeria. They're killing Christians, here it is right here, from the Kato Institute. Okay, so the whole concept of ethnic cleansing, I think temperatures need to go down because it's not egalitarian. People are killing people for multiple reasons. And here's Israel's difficulty,

Starting point is 00:36:01 is that Hamas, they build their headquarters under hospitals. They use humans as human shields. And so civilians are going to die, Israel's difficulty is that Hamas, they build their headquarters under hospitals. They use humans as human shields. And so civilians are going to die. And that is a tragedy. And Hamas brought this upon themselves. My wish, my plead to Israel is be precise, be focused in your retaliation. You have a moral right to go and seek the blood of the people that did this.

Starting point is 00:36:25 What I think would be bad for Israel and I have a heart for Israel. I can't tell you what it did. It made me a stronger Christian away. I can't even tell you, right? Bill, let's see where our Lord rose from the dead. My heart for Israel is that they don't overreact. And Patrick, you hear what I'm saying here, right?

Starting point is 00:36:41 I follow you. I'm, that's my concern, because if they do, again, if they do overreact, I'm more coming from a place of thinking this was intentional. If they don't overreact, then this was an intentional, meaning if all of a sudden you see and all out an annihilation,

Starting point is 00:36:59 what do you mean by intentional? That they knew it was gonna happen? That, no, when you're asking about the standout six hours and three hours, why did you what what you know are you getting so we're on the same page yeah I'm saying it's one of the make sure I understand if there is a major attack it was intentional if there's a major attack and by the way the number in the last uh... however many years the big the biggest number they have is 2000, right? The Palestinians that died.

Starting point is 00:37:26 That's the biggest number they've had. And in Gaza, if you look at the Gaza strip on, if you can pull up the map so you can kind of show Gaza strip to West Bank and, you know, where it has been coming from Lebanon. Yeah, but in West Bank, it's a different story because in West Bank, at least, you know, 42% of Palestinians there support Hamas, but in Gaza, it's 58%. And Hamas really isn't in those regions. Yeah, really is not in those regions. So this is Gaza strip all the way to the left.

Starting point is 00:37:54 Can I emphasize that? Sure, go for it. Look at the cameras, the radars, Patrick, not only did they go into Israel. What I'm saying. But let me hear me out here. Not only did they go into Israel, they got out of Israel with hostage.

Starting point is 00:38:03 Yeah, 100 hostages. So you would think, let me just hear me out. There's a penetration of your border wall, okay? That you guard on a holy day, the 50 year anniversary of the Yom Kippur War, and you would think, hey, let's, they're going to come back. Let's make sure that doesn't happen. Let's mobilize some forces and it is, it is not quite, but it is close to the North Korean demilitarized. What's weird about what you're saying that gets even more credibility is, your pro-Israel guy. No, I want to be very clear. Oh, fully, I know that.

Starting point is 00:38:35 So I want to make sure the audience knows this. So for you to question that, and for me to question, I'm like, sitting here saying, how did you not know this was taking place? But again, going back to it, okay, so let's go to a different angle here. Okay, so many times when crisis happens, we sit on, oh my gosh, we immediately go to World War 3. Like we have a yearning for, you know, Christmas. Armageddon.

Starting point is 00:39:02 There's almost a little bit of a yearning people have for, oh my God, what would a civil war really look like? Bro, that was crazy. I get to take a month off from war. You don't have to play cards all day. I have all these guns. I want to use them. These are people that have never gone to a country that I've never experienced.

Starting point is 00:39:18 No, it's the worst thing human being. Do it. Trust me. Like I posted a picture of the other, they my sister texted me, Paulette, I'm like, you know, you always talk about putting the, you know, tapes on the windows. Yeah, I don't know if you saw that picture. It's like that picture was

Starting point is 00:39:32 Paulette's like, look at this picture. What do you see unique in this picture? I said, Oh, it's pretty cool. So you and I went, we were kids. He says, no, no, look at the glass. I'm like, Oh, shit. Just in case they get this is the tapes. This is me and he ran with my sister.

Starting point is 00:39:44 When we would get bomb, one day we got bomb the 167 times, okay? We might this is the tapes. This is me and Iran with my sister when we would get bomb one day We got bomb the 167 times, okay? We might that would put tapes so the window wouldn't explode on our faces because that's our bedroom Like I'm on I'm on this side cheese is the is the and then the other side is our rooms and it's like hey If something happens so you look at these stories like yeah, I mean the kids are going through but go a little bit deeper with this Let's go a little bit. Let's go next step here with this. Okay. What is truly the worst case that's going to happen? We have a fascination and an obsession with market crash. Collapse, war, civil war. This is the last election. This is the most important election of all time. I'm telling you, or else we're gonna lose America, right?

Starting point is 00:40:26 Of course, all of these things is a way of controlling fear, urgency. I get it, there's a certain element of motives behind it that's effective. But how ugly thing this actually can get? Like the domino effect. If this happens, these guys react. Then if these guys react, these guys have to react.

Starting point is 00:40:41 That meme where it all starts with, a mean tweet and it ends in nuclear war. You ever see that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Domino. Yes. You know what you're not talking about. Sorry, they're in a row.

Starting point is 00:40:52 So how ugly can you say that? Well, I mean, look here, so let me also make sure I criticize both sides. Okay. So I'm gonna criticize the people that do the paragliding and it's sick. Lindsey Graham is an irresponsible lawmaker, what for what he's saying? Bombing Iranian oil depots?

Starting point is 00:41:10 This thing could get wildly out of control, very, very quickly. The last thing America needs is a kinetic war against Iran, an 87 million person country that has a pretty fierce fighting spirit, a country of five times the size of Iraq, five times cyber-rack. We're going to start bombing oil depots. Yeah, that could get Russia further involved, China involved. Yeah, look, the quote unquote, armageddon situation is that for Israel, the armageddon situation is that they overreact so much that they lose their Arab neutrality.

Starting point is 00:41:42 Right now, they have neutrality with Egypt. If they overreact, they could lose that. They have warm conversations. I won't say a piece deal yet with Saudi Arabia. They could lose that. Jordan plays ball because America demands they play ball. They could lose that. Syria, Bashar al-Assad, he acts as if it doesn't exist, but that could change in a moment's notice, right? Lebanon, via Hezbollah is already there. They could be all the sudden dealing with a 15 country invasion of this. And they handled that. They have in the past.

Starting point is 00:42:09 I mean, the six day war, the Yom Kippur war, the Yom Kippur war, for example, they were invaded in every direction. At the Balfour Declaration, when they came a country in 1948, every Arab country declared war on them. And they were, they almost lost the country. And to their credit, they held it off and they earned the right to be Israel. But I don't know what that looks like. No one does.

Starting point is 00:42:28 And you're talking about countries that have some form of nuclear weaponry as well. Saudi Arabia doesn't have a total nuclear development bomb, but they, you know, they have some sophistication far more than Iran. But yeah, look, I mean, I'm not an alarmist, but if we take the path of Nikki Haley and Lindsey Graham, like we're dramatically increasing the chances of a world war.

Starting point is 00:42:47 Can we stay right there on the Iran situation? Obviously, this is very close to home. Lunatic wants more things. Yeah, it's a PBD. It's a Lunatic picture. I think it says a thousand words. The tape on the windows you're used to this. When you've seen bombings like this,

Starting point is 00:42:59 you've seen death like this. You wish this upon nobody. But the biggest question is like, you know, we're so focused on what's going on in Russia, Ukraine granted. Obviously the big picture, I think we can all agree is what's going on with China, right? That's the big picture here.

Starting point is 00:43:13 But in this region, the tip of the spear with all these issues is Iran. So as much as Lindsey Graham sounds like a lunatic. Like a war-mongering. War-mong a wild man, warmongering, wild man, John Bolton asked type person. They're the same person. He is the least bringing up the fact that Iran needs to be dealt with. At the heels of all this, what's going on, you bring up like what, you know, so that's

Starting point is 00:43:39 important. The next five moves of Israel is, they're at the final innings of this deal with Saudi Arabia. Obviously Saudi Arabia and Iran are enemies. Shia Sunni, irreconcilable. Right. So what must be done with Iran at this point? Well, because to be clear, they're the ones that fund Hamas. They're the ones that fund Hezbollah.

Starting point is 00:44:01 They're the greatest exporter of terrorism around the world. That's true. That's what America. That's what America. After we get them $6 billion, what do we do there? The first thing is we must remember that we, the American government, are the reason why Iran is radical. We did this.

Starting point is 00:44:20 They had a democratically elected leader that we did not like. I believe his name was Mossad Day. Mossad. Yeah, right? Mossadde. Yeah, most of that, thank you. And we didn't like him because he wanted to nationalize the oil. Specifically, the Brits didn't like it.

Starting point is 00:44:33 Fifty-fifth-what? Yeah, what were you, there's PBD. Fifty-fifth-if I got you there. This is before the show. Yes, he was here. He was very popular. Gotcha. And look right there, even in Wikipedia, 1953, Iranian Qudetetat aided by intelligence agencies of the UK

Starting point is 00:44:46 and United States. We're got it. Okay, so then we put the Shah back in, if my memory serves me correctly, who was sick and unpopular, meaning he was actually suffering physically sick. And we paved the way for the most radical elements of Islam from a country that Patrick, you know what better than I do?

Starting point is 00:45:06 The Persian people are the most entrepreneurial. They're some of the smartest people that have really been living under radical Islamic captivity for many decades. Why am I bringing this up? Sometimes your intervention can make things far, far worse. Sometimes intervention is moral and necessary. Our intervention in World War II in Europe

Starting point is 00:45:23 was moral and necessary. So what to do? Well, I think Joe Biden should definitely not give them $6 billion. I think that's a good start. I think that sanctions is probably appropriate. But I also think that we have to be really clear that Iran is an enemy of the United States,

Starting point is 00:45:37 but it pales in comparison to the immediate and the pernicious and the existential threat of the Chinese Communist Party's poses to America. And I don't want to see us get into the Lindsey Graham dream world that Iran is somehow murdering Americans. They are financing terror, they're chanting death to America, but China right now is actively creating fentanyl that comes into our country,

Starting point is 00:45:58 that kills over 100,000 people, not everyone but fentanyl, but drug overdose. Yes, over a majority of the 100,000 is fentanyl. What I'm getting at is I, as a millennial, not everyone, but mental, but drug overdose. Yes. Yes. Yes. Over a majority of the hundred thousand, it's fentanyl. What I'm getting at is I, as a millennial, turning 30, know nothing but Middle Eastern, no-win war kwagged. Right? Yep.

Starting point is 00:46:14 And I am cynical. And I'm very, I think it's my moral responsibility, and my public role as a commentator, to slow down the chatter. Anytime we're talking about accelerating us closer to another conflict in the Middle East. Because we did it in Iraq, I think it was a mistake. We spent trillions of dollars and we lost precious American lives,

Starting point is 00:46:36 led to ISIS and you want the thought crime? Honestly, Saddam Hussein kept a lot of the terrorists in check. Yeah, he was a bad guy, but he wasn't the worst guy. And I think the same thing Afghanistan. So what do we do? I think first we have to calm down the neo-conservatives that are bloodthirsty and want war more than they want what's best for America.

Starting point is 00:46:53 Yeah, you know what is this is actually, I think it's going to be a filter, by the way, I don't know if this video is recent or we shared it together or it's right after they killed Rassam Soleimani. I don't know exactly the date but this video. So just kind of verify when this video is recent or we shared it the other day or it's right after they killed rassam soleimani I don't know exactly the date but this video so just kind of verify when this video was what does it say right there this video was from three years go yeah this is when we kill rassam yeah but they're what they're gonna add to the change no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no So that was a guy that came in who was the modern day Bernie Sanders. When a nationalized everything. He wanted to nationalize everything. He wanted to, you know, you know, nationalize everything. And then the shock comes in, the shock comes back, comes back, modernizes to whole thing,

Starting point is 00:47:34 education improves. Women finally have no longer, you know, age of marriage for girls are no longer eight years old or 13 years old. He raised it to, I think, whatever it was, 15 years old. And then women can actually go become lawyers and go to school education for women change. Then what happened in the Middle East when Iran was ran by him, Resa Pahlavi, the Shah,

Starting point is 00:47:56 is conflict in the Middle East was less, okay? Because now it was Iran who had a good relationship with US. For the most part, except when there was Democratic presidents, there was issues, but for the most part they had a good relation with US. And he had his 25-year contract he wrote, if you can go to 1954, Iran oil deal, it was in 1954, the deal was coming up till 1979. That's what it was.

Starting point is 00:48:22 It's called the consortium agreement of 1954. This was a deal they did. Yeah, British petroleum. Yeah, this was a deal they did. That was a 25 year deal. This is what's so interesting about it. Watches, 1950 or so, the provided Western oil companies with 50% ownership of Iranian oil production after its ratification in 1954, expiring what year?

Starting point is 00:48:43 1979. So, the PM, I think the leaders of UK, US. It's ratification in 1954, expiring what year? 1979. So the PM, I think the leaders of UK, US, I want to say France and one of the country met in South or Central America to talk about how to prevent this 25-year contract from coming up because the Shah was going to go away from the 50% deal. And he was going to rule the world. He was going to become so powerful. 1979 is when it expires. Guess when the shan'ek shah expired. 1979. Maybe a little bit of a strange timing on what they did with this year. And then, Khomeini, Khams Hezbollah

Starting point is 00:49:16 comes to 3000 political prisoners because Jimmy Carter is talking about human rights. They're freed. A lot of them ended up becoming the ISIS, the Hezbollah, the two-day party, the communists who ended up doing 9-11. So, and Carter was pushing this with them. The similar thing that he did with Cuba as well. He was like, okay, you need to free. It's not fair for what you don't want your people to human rights. He says, no problem. Here's 125,000 people. I'm releasing from Cuba to U.S. and who did he release? Political. All those guys. I'm just a political refugee. I'm a political prisoner, right? That's what I am. And bone, unemployment, unemployment in Miami

Starting point is 00:49:49 goes up to 50%. But I understand what you're saying with the Iran situation, what's going to happen there. So let me bring you back to a different thing. If you got one last thought about just someone to change. I don't want to just, the Iran thing is so fascinating to me. Because I think they are the tip of the spear of what's going on in the Middle East,

Starting point is 00:50:05 and then who are they funded by? China, what was the amount of money that they gave them $400 billion? $50 million. Here's my question to you. $425 million. Okay, just to kind of emphasize this, if you're a consultant or the national security advisor

Starting point is 00:50:19 to whether it's Donald Trump or Joe Biden or whoever it is, you, PBD, how do you deal with Iran? Do you pull out of the nuclear deal entirely like Trump did? I would. You get back into the nuclear deal. Do you give them any money whatsoever the $6 billion for the hostages? How do you deal with Iran?

Starting point is 00:50:38 What do you do? Yeah, I think Trump had it right, which remember, there was clamoring for Trump to go to war against Iran and strike, and he resisted that. I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:50:50 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:50:58 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't time. I believe 50% of their populations under the age of 35, we can fact check it. They have one of the youngest populations on the planet

Starting point is 00:51:08 and we can fact check it. It might not be that extreme. But you have a very, very radical government. The people of Iran are incredibly talented. They're entrepreneurial, they're industrious. And I'm actually more bullish on the future of Iran if you can liberate them from the captivity that they're on. You do that as my point.

Starting point is 00:51:27 Well, so what happened last year with the girls? That's one of the youngest pop-ups. We saw what happened when a girl took off her job. She was killed. The women have no rights. The answer is it shouldn't be a top priority to the American government because we have so many problems here to execute a CIA coup d'état in another country.

Starting point is 00:51:46 You have to put sanctions on. You have to put them in check. You have to try to, in my personal opinion, allow Israel to seek justice at the same time you cannot allow this to turn into a regional broader war. You know why? Because the adult America is going to have to come clean it up. That's why. If we just kind of say, oh, it, oh, this thing turns into a regional conflict,

Starting point is 00:52:06 we're gonna have more troops on the ground and we're gonna have to go clean up this mess as Trump calls it in the region of sand and death while our own country is disintegrating and collapsing. But look, there's a lot of other technical things you could do to Iran, right? You can prevent them access to European markets, which Joe Biden hasn't done, right?

Starting point is 00:52:23 They go and shop in Paris and London all the time. You cut that crap off, right? Just like lifestyle stuff that you can easily do. You cut off student visas, right, from certain Iranian expats. You can put extra sanctions on. There's a lot of other tools you can do. The number one thing you can do is you drill, baby, drill here domestically, and you weaken Iran's energy head

Starting point is 00:52:46 money. Basically, if you increase the oil supply, which Donald Trump had us energy independent and exporting more oil than we were importing, you significantly weaken Iran. And you weaken Russia too, if that actually you care about that, right? The more you explore for oil in the American homeland, the weaker these governments that are reliant on the petrodollar become. What would you add to that PVD? I think he said everything and more than for oil in the American homeland, the weaker these governments that are reliant on the petrodollar become. What would you add to that, PVD? I think he said everything and more than what I would have said.

Starting point is 00:53:11 Look, here's interesting, I'll transition, it kind of makes us to what you want to say. The neuro yesterday came out and ripped Donald Trump again. Oh, God. And he says, Trump is evil. He wrote out a whole thing in a speech, wanna be tough guy with no morals or anything. Let me just read this to you, and I'll give you my thoughts on this.

Starting point is 00:53:26 So the hero, keep going a little lower, the entire speech is at the bottom, go lower, lower, lower, lower. You'll see it when it's there. You're like, I read this article three years ago. I know, but for a while, six months. But here's the thing though, here's the thing though, okay. I'm sorry, I couldn't be with you today.

Starting point is 00:53:41 A few days ago, I came down with a heavy cold, da, da, da, da, da, okay, great. I'm with you and spirit. I'm watching this. Okay, go on. I've spent a lot of time studying bad men. I've examined their characteristics, their mannerisms, the utter banality of their cruelty.

Starting point is 00:53:53 Yet there's something different about Donald Trump when I look at him. I don't see a bad man. Truly I see an evil one. Over the years, I've met many gangsters here and there. This guy tries to be one. But he can't quite pull it off. There's such a thing as honor

Starting point is 00:54:07 among thieves, yet even criminals usually have a sense of right and wrong. Whether they do the right thing or not is a different story, but they have a moral code. However, a warped. Trump does not. He's a want to be tough guy with no morals or ethics, no sense of right or wrong, no regard for anyone but himself. Not the people he's supposed to lead or protect, not the people he does business with, not the people who follow him, blindly and loyally, not even the people who consider themselves as friends, he has contempt for all of them.

Starting point is 00:54:34 We knew Yorkers got to know him over the years that he was poisoned the atmosphere literal, ego, we knew first-sen who he was, we tried to warn you in 2016, the repercussions, tribulating 12 hours on a 2020 okay Domino was supposed to protect this country put in peril but of his recklessness in prison was an act of abuse okay How much time is he had? In peach for diamond trump is still a fool, but we can't let our fellow Americans ride him off evil thrives in a shadow of dismissive mockery

Starting point is 00:55:01 Which is why we must take the danger of Donald Trump seriously? So today we issue another warning. Okay, fantastic. Jesus. From this place where Abraham Lincoln spoke, right there in Beating Heart of New York to the rest of America, this is our last chance. Democracy won't survive.

Starting point is 00:55:14 The return of a wannabe dictator and it won't become over. Anyway, he keeps going. Just like Chaggy, he keeps the robbers in the room. But this the point I wanna make to Woody says. Okay, great, God, you said this a few years. It's like Atlas shrugged that just keeps going. You know what he made me think about. This to what he says. Okay, great. God, you said this a few years ago. Like Atlas shrug that just keeps going. You know what he made me think about?

Starting point is 00:55:27 This is what he made me think about. That Trump is a gangster. Okay, no problem. Who the hell chooses to become a president? One of two people, okay? Either somebody who is a gangster or somebody who's controlled by gangsters that don't have a face to him. Which one would you rather have?

Starting point is 00:55:46 So is Biden a gangster? No, he's just a face. Gangsters are controlling what he does. He's a face. It's Trump a gangster. He's a gangster. Yep. Is Reagan a gangster?

Starting point is 00:55:57 He's a gangster. Is Kennedy a gangster? He's a gangster. Is Obama a gangster? He's not a gangster. He's controlled by other people. We can keep going on and on about all these gangsters. Look, he's no problem.

Starting point is 00:56:08 So, I've actually spent time with gangsters, and like real gangsters. Couple of. Like any one of them that's living, I've pretty much have them on the podcast, and we've spent time with them. Okay, we've had conversations on camera, off camera. And here's what I will say about the history of the mob. Whenever the boss

Starting point is 00:56:28 was feared, people weren't going killing each other. It's just how it was in New York. Whenever the boss was weak, guess what people were doing? Going whack in each other. Why? Because the boss was not somebody that you feared at that level where he's going to come back and do anything to you. It was like, don't do it again, Adam. That's not cool, right? Versus, hey, you take the other made man out or you put your hand on another, here's what's gonna happen to you, right? There was a certain element of fear. There's three things that a great leader has to have. Fear, you have to be feared. Now, especially when you're running the most powerful country in the world,

Starting point is 00:57:03 that's the hate it and the love and the admired. All three, you gotta be feared. Now especially when you're running the most powerful country in the world that's the hated and the loved and the admired. All three, you gotta be feared, you gotta be respected. And if dessert, the last one is dessert. If you can be liked, even better. Reagan was liked. Trump's not liked, okay? Let's just say among some of these other guys, fear, respect is necessary.

Starting point is 00:57:20 Trump was feared and he was respected and he walked around, love him or hate him. We didn't have wars. So going back to what you're asking about Iran what he would do Here's what he would be doing. There's no six hours stand down or three hours stand down Here's what we're doing. He's doing a what he called it a press conference going out Here's what we're gonna do here. He's gonna remember that one time when he he says Abu Bakar what was his name? Like daddy?

Starting point is 00:57:46 Like daddy. He cried like, I got you with these things. And you're like, who uses these words, right? He was begging, it was such a, can you pull up this video clip if you have it? Obviously, it's like it's almost like out of a movie. One day our kids are gonna watch this movie about Trump

Starting point is 00:58:03 and they're gonna say he would never say such a thing. No, no son, go watch the real clip. He actually said that. That, a president would never say something like that. But you know what, he did. So to me, this is the element where I have a hard time sitting here saying, yeah, none of this stuff is on Biden and US.

Starting point is 00:58:20 I'm sorry, nobody fears or respects or likes Biden. So guess what, all the gangsters out there saying dude go and get everything you want You know, hey, California. They say what you can go rob CVS or whatever all these 1500 go for it man go guys go. We don't care. We're okay with the nuisance more worried about skittles than fentanyl the other day You know this guy spent a more time talking about skill, go forward. So if Biden is a governor of the world, let's just say he's the president now, the free world. Everybody else is saying, if there's ever been time to go rob

Starting point is 00:58:53 and take whatever right now is the time to do, because we have no clue who the hell is coming next. So yeah, Deniro, as much as I love you, your movies, your work, your an incredible actor, dude, you are so at this point off base, it's not even funny. How much anger and hate you have towards this guy. And I would love to see you actually sell. Rather than in Bastion Trump, why don't you flip it on us,

Starting point is 00:59:16 Deniro and sell us Biden. Go ahead, sell it to us. Write the same kind of a novel you just wrote, but sell Biden. Sell us how amazing the economy is. Sell us how peaceful the world is right now. Sell us how everybody is so comfortable with their jobs, their houses, their mortgage rates.

Starting point is 00:59:33 The sell us all of that stuff, how phenomenal he's doing. You can trash Trump all you want. He ain't the president, Biden's your president. What has Biden done? Why don't you do it? I'd love to see the New Yorker sell Biden. I don't know if he can do it. Maybe that's what he doesn't do it.

Starting point is 00:59:46 It's easy to trash Trump then to go after selling us how incredible of a job Biden's done. Numbers came out the other day. I think so lowest approval rating. Approval rating that just came out of our Biden. So what are your thoughts when you hear the near on some of these guys giving us a lecture here on who Trump is?

Starting point is 01:00:01 Well, first of all, you know you're Machiavelli. So one of the most important books ever written, really started the Enlight, you know you're Machiavelli. So one of the most important books ever written, really, started the Enlightenment is The Prince by Machiavelli. And we use Machiavelli as a pejorative, right? Oh, Machiavelli. We don't quite understand the brilliance of the insight of Machiavelli.

Starting point is 01:00:14 Machiavelli was actually applying for a job. That's what The Prince was to the Medici family. He wrote a series of letters and he was like, hey, hire me as your political consultant, basically your political advisor. And what Machiavelli really wrote is, yes, I mean, there's a couple of things. Ends just by the means, but that's such a small portion. It really is the most complete to date,

Starting point is 01:00:34 comprehensive picture of how to rule justly, how to establish order, and how to have different tribes and factions and sex be able to understand hierarchy? Have you be respected? Use fear as a weapon as a tool? And he did it in such a profound way that I mean this guy knew his classics He knew his aerosol news Aquinas and it got so I happen to study the Prince over the summer and it will blow your mind And you know what the more you read it the more you realize how much the left plays by the rules of Machiavelli

Starting point is 01:01:04 Wow, if the right played by the rules of Machiavelli. If the right played by the rules of Machiavelli as much as the left, we would win. And I don't just mean the ends justify the means. I mean, how to use political power. How do you use political power? And you use that term gangster? Woo! I got to tell you, Machiavelli laid out that kind of playbook. A Trump, I don't know if he's ever read the Prince or not, maybe back in college or whatever, but probably didn't. But or whatever, but he plays that out. Yeah, Nicolio Machiavelli. He started the Enlightenment. So he was the first guy to ever say, wait, hold on, we have all these old books and all these old writings. Why don't we just cast that aside and get what we

Starting point is 01:01:39 want? And that was by the way, Medici family, one of the only families that kept our wealth for five six seven Generals. Yes, it's crazy. Vanderbilt couldn't do it. You know some of these other families couldn't do it Medici's been going for Quite a long time. Lawrence which video is this this is a ride like a baby. Oh, I love this. Okay, go and play this I used to go to sleep at night. I don't know if this is the right one. I Maybe the leader of the Taliban you would obliter him. If he dared not to follow every dotted eye, cross T, comma, period. Abdul, I did. Had a conversation, had a number of conversations. Did you at one point tell

Starting point is 01:02:12 him, I know exactly where you are and give him the exact coordinates where he was. You said I'm a picture of his house. But why would I do that? You told me I was a picture Do you think of that, man? You told the audio. I'd send a picture of his house. Oh, it's very Machiavellian. And then think about this, so Charlie, this is the amount of hate that they had for this one guy. Remember when he did kill Soleimani? You know what CNN was calling Soleimani?

Starting point is 01:02:39 He's a freedom fight. They were almost feeling bad, and they polo scene all them went after him for killing a terrorist. That's how much Trump deranged been syndrome. It's embedded in people like that. It's embedded in people like St. Schmidt. And it's, bro, it's past Trump. It's the, it's the, it's what they stand for.

Starting point is 01:02:56 Yes. It's enough is enough. That, that strength, that, that strength to peace, like that's how we have to roll child. And they, nobody respects us. Peace to strength. Everything is going to shit. And everything, I am tired of this. that strength to peace, like that's how we have to roll try. Nobody respects us. Peace to strength. Everything is going to shit.

Starting point is 01:03:07 And I am tired of this. Everybody were tippy-tongued. It's time that we start saying we told you so. We told you so about COVID. We told you so about the border. We told you that BLM was a scam that they were trying to screw all of us over. How many times are we gonna go, no, and brush it away.

Starting point is 01:03:23 We told you, we tried to wake your asses up. And now you got him writing a solid book. We nobody gives a shit about De Niro anymore. But go make a movie. We don't have time to read that. He's just sitting around Pat in New York, just hating Trump. We have more shit to worry about than somebody worried about Trump. It just drives me nuts. That when I, when I hear De Niro, it's personal. It's personal. It's personal. Trump got together with a girl. He was, it's gotta be something. You cannot, there's something that is so personal

Starting point is 01:03:51 for him to have that kind of hate towards Trump. I think, I think you, because you have spent so much time with the gangsters and Michael and Sammy and a lot of our friends, you bring up a great point, PBD, and to any of my leftists or people on the liberal friends, you bring up a great point, PBD. And to any of my leftists or people on the liberal friends, I totally understand why it would be very easy to not like Trump at face value, I get it. But the whole, do you want a strong leader running the mob,

Starting point is 01:04:17 the country, what have you? Or do you want a weak leader that nobody respects? And that's where you start to see some of the whorvelness that happens over there. And to your point, who are the gangsters that are funding Biden or whoever the non-gainster president is? That's a very important point. I just don't want to just kind of gloss over that.

Starting point is 01:04:37 It is something that is, when you peel back the layers of who's funding Biden, who's putting these things together, I totally understand why that makes a lot of sense. By the way, you know this next debate that's coming up to Republican debate, November, right, it's gonna be, Miami, the one that's gonna be here. You're gonna be able to filter out

Starting point is 01:04:59 all the candidates very quickly. Very true. I think it's gonna be like a pure filtering system. What did he just say? Wait, what did she just say? Are you serious about, okay? That one's gone. This one's gone.

Starting point is 01:05:11 I know exactly where he's at. I know exactly where she's at. I know exactly where she's at. Okay, cool. Here we go. Oh yeah. I think this is going to be the fastest filtering system. Not that they're going to be doing anything with Presidency.

Starting point is 01:05:21 I'm not even talking about Presidency, but for you to know like administration, job, future, who's Israel Palestine, because you know Nikki Haley's gonna be up there right up the rib talking about the Tommy Ron. Why do you say that this one's gonna be more of a filtering one? Because nothing happened in California. It was a shit show.

Starting point is 01:05:37 Why Miami? Because now you have like, once the last time something like this happened in Israel 50 years ago, I mean, this is like the biggest catastrophic event they've had since the Holocaust. You know, some are saying, okay, yeah.

Starting point is 01:05:49 This is not like, you know, people are worried about Jews, you know, in a sense of, you know, how big the population is, 15 million people. You're not talking about 300 million Jews worldwide. You're not talking about 700 million Jews worldwide. At the world's jury. Yeah, you're not talking, bless you're not talking about 700 million Jews worldwide. At the world's jury.

Starting point is 01:06:05 Yeah, you're not talking, bless you, you're not talking about a big number. Don't get me wrong. The criticism and look at the power they have, the influence they have, the Hollywood and all this affair. We can have that conversation no problem. But they're gonna have to make their case

Starting point is 01:06:19 and the argument and I'm so curious, no, how they're gonna make the case. Obviously Vivek was on Tucker this last weekend and Tucker said, you know, Nikki Haley sounds like a child, right? And then Vivek tried to give her like protect her a little bit and say, I don't know about child, but I don't disagree, you know, agree with what, you know, he's got to say, what she's got to say, it's going to be interesting. I think it's going to be a great filtering system. And by the way, let me transition to a complete different story. Have you followed what's going on be interesting. I think it's going to be a great filtering system. And by the way, let me transition to a complete different story.

Starting point is 01:06:45 Have you followed what's going on with Aaron Rodgers and Kelsey and the Pfizer thing where ESPN is shitting Bricsaine? What the hell is going on? Let me read this story to you. ESPN, under fire after Aaron Rodgers challenges Travis Kelsey to vaccine debate on network. This is with Pat McAfee. I love McAfee's hilarious stuff. I used to not like him. Now I have Madvers. Yeah, that guy is easy.

Starting point is 01:07:12 Yes, we have phase number. So they don't know that Roger's having kids. He Rogers playfully referred to Kelsey as Mr. Pfizer and Kelsey responded with humor, coining the feud as Mr. Pfizer versus the Johnson-Johnson family. The controversy escalated when Rogers during his appearance on the Pat McAfee Show challenge. Kelsey to a vaccine debate.

Starting point is 01:07:31 He suggested RFK as his partner and Anthony Fauci for Kelsey. ESPN's NFL insider Adam Schaefer, Clash Shared a Clip, describing as the potential next great American debate, the decision by ESPN to highlight this debate, which is rooted in widely debunked vaccine related theories. This is a media story triggered strong reactions with gambling, reported dusting, gauker, stating ESPN should be embarrassed for airing this nonsense. Yeah, a debate is embarrassing. You know, someone should find out how much does the Walt Disney Corporation receive from Pfizer and advertising every single year?

Starting point is 01:08:07 That's a great question. I don't know. That's right. I watch too much football, right? I love it. It's my one indulgence. I know it's woke. I don't care.

Starting point is 01:08:16 I just love it. It's a beautiful sport. It's uniquely American. Do we have his audio of what Roger said on that? No, we should. By the way, this is his media album. And that's AJ. And that's AJ.

Starting point is 01:08:24 That's AJ Hawker. By the way, he this is his media and that's like that's a. J. goes to that's a. J. Hawthorac. Right. And before he plays this, Charlie, let's not forget Aaron Rogers. Pat has a chip on his shoulder. Remember when he didn't want to get the vaccine, they shamed him. They called him a denier. They dude, everybody went after him like a no vac joke of it. Yes. And that's why I do. I think it was brilliant when he won the open God. God bless him and good for him. But bro, good for him because think about it. Who's the Travis Kelsey? God forbid all his young following,

Starting point is 01:08:49 especially now with what's her face. Taylor Swifties. Taylor Swifties and now footballs up and telling people to get the vaccine. If God forbid one of these 18 year old boys that follows you, Travis gets in, gets my own carditis. Are you paying for it? His hospital bills?

Starting point is 01:09:03 Are you gonna know, Adam? Are you gonna take care of him? No, you're not. So, to push this drug that's still freaking new on kids is ridiculous. So, I mean, I love this because this is him getting them back for the shit that they put on a good point. I mean, it wasn't too long ago.

Starting point is 01:09:16 Two years ago, he did an interview and he said he was immunized. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it was, so what does that mean? I mean, I got a cool immunized, all right. And then, then obviously he's got some time on his hands with the Achilles injury, but do we have that audio? I mean, listen, you know, Mr. Pfizer said he didn't think you'd be in a Vax war with me. He didn't even a Vax war. This ain't a war, homie. This is this conversation. But if you want to have some sort of dual debate, have me on the block. Come on the street.

Starting point is 01:09:52 Let's have a couple. Oh, let's do it like in John Wick four, right? So we both have a second. Nice. For somebody to help us out. I'm going to take my man, R.S.K. Jr. Nice. There's somebody to help us out. I'm going to take my man, R.S.K. Jr.

Starting point is 01:10:05 Okay. Yeah. Independence. Hell yeah. Right. And he can have, you know, Tony Fauci or some other Farmer crap. And we can have these world. And I'm going to keep this job or not. We got that sorted. Not for sure. I don't know. But obviously how? Wouldn't you watch that? Wouldn't you watch, uh, it would never happen. I know, but I would pay per view for that.

Starting point is 01:10:29 Charlie, you wouldn't pay to see that. Oh, it would. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. How much money would you have to pay, Anthony Fauci, to do a three hour debate long from podcast? 10 million bucks. He's not.

Starting point is 01:10:42 He's not. I actually, I'm asking you a real question with who? what is the dollar amount for Anthony Fauci to agree on a three-hour debate for against RFK three-hour what how much money would he what do you want and realistically I don't think he would do it but ten million bucks he's not I'm telling you right now I'll pay the ten million I know I will pay ten on record right now I'll pay Fauci million. I will pay 10 on record right now. I'll pay Fauci, 10 million bucks, three hours, live podcast with RFK and he still won't do it. I'm telling you right now, pay 10 million bucks.

Starting point is 01:11:14 And he still won't do it. He still won't do it. So get exposed. Are you kidding me? Yeah. Because there's no way this guy's gonna do something like that. Do you know what RFK would do with them with all the facts and everything that he wrote? He still would have wrote the book about him.

Starting point is 01:11:30 Yeah, that's right. He knows about it. If there's a guy he would never do it with, is with RFK, it would never happen. Never. And he would be the type of guy that would come out of self. Of course, I would do it on some of this. I know, this isn't about money. This is about people's health.

Starting point is 01:11:45 And there's no way in the world. This makes any sense to sit down and talk to an RFK like this. I'm willing to tell you, put the number out of 100 million. I was just gonna say, that wouldn't be right. What if everybody raised, he would do 100 million? Why do you think he won't do it?

Starting point is 01:11:57 He'll go to jail after. Actually asked the question, why do you think he won't do it? Why he won't? Because he'll be exposed for everything and he didn't even go to jail. Because he can't do it. The people of power will never let him do it. Why he won't? Because he'll be exposed for everything that he did. He can go to jail because he can't do it. Yeah. The people of power will never let him do it. Are you kidding me? Yeah. He won't get permission to do it. He works for these big

Starting point is 01:12:14 formal guys. Right. You can pay me 100 million. They're going to call him and say, dude, you're you're you're you're you're going to go ahead and do it and see what we do to your legacy of a NIH and everything that we have on you. Go ahead and do it. Go ahead. Go ahead and do that. See what happens to you you he wouldn't do it for a hundred million crazy because you're so right he wouldn't do it for a hundred million bucks big pharma would never allow him to do it what if he said I'll do it pal take the hundred million but you guys have to protect me like they're gonna come after stop they would like he's done they would they do the exact opposite of protecting him. They would say, all right, listen guy.

Starting point is 01:12:45 Here's an X amount of money. I would do 10 million. I would do 10 million. I would run out the Miami-Head Arena, okay. I would bring RFK. I would sell 20,000 tickets. I would do it live. I would bring a moderator from the left

Starting point is 01:12:59 to ask questions, moderator from the right to ask questions. I'm the one that's gonna be. I checked. I'm the one in the middle. I'm the main moderator, but I'll bring guys, so you can ask RFK, whatever questions you want us, well, no prom, and somebody on the set can ask

Starting point is 01:13:10 a Fauci any questions they want, outside of what RFK would ask. It would become a big event, it'd be an event the world would watch, and he would still not do it for 10 million bucks. I guarantee you. Just to add to that, because Charlie mentioned,

Starting point is 01:13:23 you know, what Disney would do on this Let's not forget Disney owns ABC which owns ESPN and the whole conglomerate right there That's why you're bringing this up But the bigger thing is and you brought this up on the the event that you did with Tim Poole and Matt Gaetz which was awesome and James O'Keefe and you were railing against how much money James O'Keefe and you were railing against how much money goes from big pharma to legacy medium to the CNNs of the world, to the Foxes of the world,

Starting point is 01:13:51 cable news outlets of the world. And that you were harping on. This is something that you've been studying pretty closely. What would happen if they stopped taking big pharma money to these major cable outlets? You know what would happen. No, I mean, it makes up their whole bottom line. I mean, again, I watch a lot of football to these major cable outlets, you know what would happen. No, I mean, it makes up their whole bottom line. I mean, again, I watch a lot of football every other commercials, the Travis Kelsey commercial. It is running nonstop.

Starting point is 01:14:10 Yeah. Do we have that commercial? You can do two things at once. Get a flu shot and a vaccine. Yeah, I like, and I see it on ESPN property probably 10 times every Saturday for college football. Right, we don't need to. Yeah, we don't need to.

Starting point is 01:14:21 We don't need to. And those are $50,000, you know, throw spots. So that's, they're spending millions of dollars every day on that ad with ESPN. Yeah, and it's crazy, Charlie, you see the world like an economic forum lady. We called for it last week. She's literally, they're not even hiding anymore.

Starting point is 01:14:37 You know what she said? We tried to vaccinate the planet, didn't work. She's like, we tried, you know, people can't grasp climate change. Now they're like, oh, let's mess with the water. They're, they're just relentless. They're trying to, they're trying to get rid of all these freaking vaccines. It's disgusting. Let's talk about Steve Scalice and what's going on here. So story, Wall Street Journal page 13,

Starting point is 01:14:56 if you want to go to it. This is, this is Speaker the House. This is all the mess that's going to with himself, Jim Jordan. Okay, here we go. Wall Street Journal October 10th, Steve Scalise, Jim Jordan, makes pitches for House Speaker as GOP worries grow, House Majority Leader, Steve Scalise, Republican, and Representative Jim Jordan, Ohio, outlined their visions during a closed-door candidate for lawmakers discuss priorities,

Starting point is 01:15:19 including reigning in 33 trillion dollar national that according to one participant. Some lawmakers express uncertainty about either candidates securing the necessary 217 votes with represent a majority, a marjorie Taylor Greene, saying I don't think anybody has 217, a potential rule change could require repeated votes until the winning candidate gains

Starting point is 01:15:41 garners 217 votes, votes according to represent Chipproy and the Marca Amode, sought commitments from candidates, emphasizing support for moving a bill to transfer federal lands to Nevada. So Charlie, what's going on? It's a mess. Is there going to be a decision being made? Yeah, there will be. If Scalise becomes speaker, I think that's a downgrade from McCarthy, to be honest.

Starting point is 01:16:03 I mean, I think Scalise is a sweet guy. I mean, a Democrat tried to murder him, right? So, I mean, and he's also battling cancer. I was during the whole softball game in DC with that guy. Yeah, and he's also battling cancer right now. So, it's not personal. But let me just introduce, you know,

Starting point is 01:16:14 a part of this that people are afraid to mention, okay? You physically cannot do the job of speaker the house and travel 300 days and raise $300 million from now to next November in my personal opinion and also fight cancer. That's a big thing. And that sounds kind of nasty or unfair, but that needs to be factored in.

Starting point is 01:16:35 You have to understand, there's congressional elections every two years, right? Pat, you know what it's like to travel 300 days a year. It destroys your body, right? I traveled 3000 days in the last decade. And it's not easy, right? My back has all screwed up. You don't, imagine you're the Speaker of the House, right? I traveled 3,000 days in the last decade. And it's not easy, right? My back has all screwed up. You don't, imagine you're the speaker of the house,

Starting point is 01:16:48 you have a legislative agenda, you're constantly dealing with a very, very slim majority. You have to travel the country to go raise 300 million bucks, okay? Minimum, because Hakeem Jeffries is building that war chest, building that war chest, building that war chest. You have to recruit candidates, keep candidates in. You're about to see a whole bunch of retirements come up, right? That's a bad sign, meaning a bunch of Republicans saying,

Starting point is 01:17:07 I'm retiring, that means you have to find a new candidate. So the speaker is in charge of a lot of that stuff at the NRCC. And I mean, I know it's, if you're battling blood cancer, man, that's tough to do that, right? I think that puts us at a significant disadvantage. Plus, he's also to way too moderate for my liking. Jim Jordan would have been a big upgrade, right? I think that puts us at a significant disadvantage. Plus, he's also to wait to moderate for my liking. Jim Jordan would have been a big upgrade, right? But Steve Scalice backed Liz Cheney

Starting point is 01:17:29 in the primary in Wyoming. He's really bad on Ukraine in my opinion. Again, nice person, terrible what he's been through, but I think this would be a downgrade. If he becomes a big guy. So why didn't Jim get it though? Well, it's not, we don't know yet. It's still, I know, but there was one time we think because he's too conservative. Yeah. There's 150 people in

Starting point is 01:17:48 the House Republican caucus that are incredibly moderate, right? Very, very moderate. They, you get like a bad impression because the people that go on television on a Paulina Luna, you know, Matt Gates, they actually don't make a majority of the Republican conference. You know a majority of the Republican conference never You know a majority of their Republican conference never goes on TV that kind of keep their head down. They like the title congressman, but they're very moderate. They're transactional Republican regime politicians, right? They kind of just vote for what how they're told.

Starting point is 01:18:17 They do what leadership tells them. I don't even know, I mean, I know a lot about politics. I don't know like a hundred of these guys, right? They're kind of just in the background, but they are very, very mad that McCarthy's no longer speaker. And so they're gonna hold the line, and they're like, we're getting a more moderate speaker, we're gonna be in charge,

Starting point is 01:18:32 and this is them exacting revenge on Biggs and Rosendale and Roy and those guys. So do you think Matt Gates could move when he pushed McCarthy out? Well, first of all, I was asked him at the time, I said, what is the plan? And he said that anyone is better than Kevin McCarthy. I said, that's not true.

Starting point is 01:18:49 Okay, that I don't agree with that. But I said, Matt, you'll either be proven right or be proven wrong, right? If you get a more conservative speaker, someone that has, I think Jim Jordan, by the way, would be amazing at raising the money. He's a former, really, college-level wrestler, wrestling coach.

Starting point is 01:19:05 He has great physical stamina. He could really go toe-to-toe with Jeffries on the fundraising tour and the travel circuit. All that stuff that sometimes can really wear you down to Kevin McCarthy's credit. He took that very seriously. He traveled like a crazy person just to be able to handle everything.

Starting point is 01:19:20 But yeah, I mean, Jordan should be the guy. And it's not over yet, but it doesn't look very good for it. Would you nominate Jordan? I'd even know about Steve Skulley's having blood cancer as we speak. How is that even a saturation melanoma or something? Can you fact check me on that? Well melanoma skin cancer, but if it's blood cancer, it's probably leukemia. It's probably what it is. But either way, he's dealing with cancer right now, not exactly advantageous. I wasn't that far off my my alone.

Starting point is 01:19:46 I'm sorry. Okay. So if you, because it sounds like you've had some conversations with Matt Gaetz and you had some agreements and disagreements, who would you want to see nominated? Because they're not talking about nominating Trump, which would literally flip crazy Nancy on her, uh, flipper and a grave. So to speak, the narrow would kill him. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:20:04 I think Jim Jordan would be great. I mean, I think Jim Jordan's super conservative on known Jim for years. He would do a terrific job. Honestly, we need to just get the speaker position filled. We have such a slim majority. Every day, we're just burning time. We have a continuing resolution coming up.

Starting point is 01:20:16 Exactly, with Democrats want both. No, they're loving this, right? We have a wide open border. We have not done anything to rain in Jack Smith. We've done nothing to materially actually find out where the Ukraine money is going. The administrative state is out of control. Like the top priorities for me,

Starting point is 01:20:30 none of them are getting done if we don't have a speaker, right? And if Steve Scalice makes some commitments and he proves me wrong, great. I mean, I'm not gonna like, you know, really oppose him at this point. We have such a slim majority. At this point, are we gonna keep the House in January 2025? And honestly, the odds are not good.

Starting point is 01:20:44 The odds are not good for Republicans to keep the house. But to be clear, Charlie, it sounds like you would have been cool with McCarthy staying speaker. Yeah, versus Scalice. Yeah, and I got, I mean, it's well known. I get along with Kevin, I have for years. I mean, he has, I think he made a miscalculation on the continuing resolution.

Starting point is 01:20:59 I wish he would have held the line. And shutting down the government, I think would have been appropriate to be perfectly honest, because it's actually not a shutdown. It's more like a pause. We are a dead or nation, $2 trillion deficit. That's your annual burn unsustainable. In my opinion, it should have been the Republicans big last stand. And instead, you know, he did a punt and he punted 45 days. He lost the speakership as a result of it. We are destroying the dollar, right?

Starting point is 01:21:22 Our deficit spending is shredding the dollar. We don't have a border. These are, we're in a crisis and I wish the Republicans would have held the line a lot better with that last year. How much of this with Matt Gaetz, because we were just with him, was personal. A lot. 90%, 95%. This wasn't even about the countries, at the end of the day, Matt Gaetz. And I'm not saying that it's not about America. I mean, this is a personal issue. I'm speculating, but it seemed to be hyper

Starting point is 01:21:48 personal. Wow. Yeah. It seemed kind of like how De Niro and Trump have a thing. Yeah. Gates and McCarthy got a thing. Didn't they have a few? That's something in 2021. Something happened between them. There's something about an ethics investigation too that McCarthy didn't drop and then allegedly Gates was accusing McCarthy of hiring people to go after him online. So this thing was just bubbling up, right? Of course, before McCarthy became the Speaker of the House, there was a 15 vote process which was awfully humiliating for McCarthy, of course.

Starting point is 01:22:17 And there was literally almost a physical altercation between Gates and another congressman. And it's, yeah, this was a personal issue. And I'm friends with Matt and I told Matt, I said, Matt, you're the member of Congress, you know, you're bettin' big man, you're goin' all in Texas, hold him, this could end up being really good. If we get Scalice, it's the best, it's a wash that we now lost a couple weeks

Starting point is 01:22:36 and we got humiliated and it looks like a Chinese fire drill. And at the worst, we get somebody who isn't as conservative who does not even have, in my personal opinion, the time. Let's just forget like the physical part. If you're fighting cancer, man, the time alone is gonna distract you from what is necessary for us to beat the Democrats. And I say that from a compassionate standpoint.

Starting point is 01:22:55 I want them to go beat cancer, right? Yeah. He's gonna have a lot on his plate. I mean, if you're dealing with cancer, I feel, I mean, respect, deal with that. No, I mean, that's what I'm saying. I'm not a mad, I just qualify her. Oh my God.

Starting point is 01:23:06 Can you imagine like the stress and everything that adds on to it? Well, why is he the leading candidate? Who, who? Because McCarthy's running a shadow campaign to get him. Because he's very close to McCarthy. It's the thing about McCarthy stepped down. He still wants the power. He wants the power behind the throne, right?

Starting point is 01:23:20 He was the one that recruited 280 of the candidates that make up the majority, right? He's the one that busted his tail. And McCarthy wants to exact revenge on those guys that got rid of him. And so McCarthy's not going away. What do you think that's what I told Matthew? What do you want to do to get Matt Gates? On a personal level, or even on a political level.

Starting point is 01:23:40 Just what would McCarthy want to see to happen to Gates? I mean, I can't speak for Kevin in that way, but it's gonna get really nasty. I mean, they're he's already running. MacArthur's pack is already running some of the nastiest ads I've ever seen against those eight people. What's MacArthur's relationship with Trump today? Um, they've always gotten along, but I think Kevin is disappointed, Trump didn't bail him out. Trump could have bailed him out. So Trump could have either come the DC or tweeted and said, guys, stop it. Kevin's our guy. Don't do this. Trump could have saved Kevin's speakership. Last question on this from me. So I think Kevin's

Starting point is 01:24:14 will solve it now. Does all this house of representative saga help or hurt the Democrats? Helps the Democrats. You kidding me. It's not even close. And by the way, why would you do this and to help the other party. The argument was, and I understand this argument, I really do, that we have zero legislative wins while the country's legitimately financially collapsing. And that is not an exaggeration. We are destroying the dollar. We're borrowing money. We don't have. And the Republicans were like, you know, what, when are we going to fight? We got screwed on the debt ceiling, we got screwed on the budget,

Starting point is 01:24:46 and we got screwed on continuing resolution. I kind of get that some sentiment, I really do. That would have been probably strategically smarter if you don't have a four seat majority, okay? That's one of the smallest majorities in American history, right? And again, I keep on going after this. You have to always look at,

Starting point is 01:25:03 and what I'm doing is increasing or decreasing the chances that we keep the house in the next session. That's not the most important thing, but it's important. And it's significantly decreased. Ikeem Jeffries' donations have gone up. Democrats are recruiting really exciting good candidates, Republican enthusiasm is down in the house to representatives.

Starting point is 01:25:20 So we got a serious problem. Yeah, so it's either, this is a Hail Mary pass, either you score some crazy touchdown in the end, Hail Mary style, or you get back to the ball over it. Or at the very best. The very best. Yeah, at the very best, you get offsetting penalties. You're like, well, that was a waste of time, right?

Starting point is 01:25:34 I mean, and it's so that that's the best case scenario. Here's your college day in the day that you're all about. I can use football analogies all day long, right? But no, I mean, what I will say though, is that house Republicans need to start fulfilling the mandate that their voters gave them. And the three big priorities is, you have to get this Ukraine funding under control. I think you have to cut it completely

Starting point is 01:25:53 and get rid of it. You have to get Jack Smith and the DOJ to have some sort of check in balance and the border, right? And if I had to add a fourth, which is, can you please cut spending, guys? $2 trillion deficit is unsustainable. We are a debtor nation. We are destroying our purchasing power.

Starting point is 01:26:08 It is harder than ever to buy a home. Inflation is a silent tax and a silent killer for working people. It disincentivizes saving. And inflation is a direct corollary to how much money Washington DC spends. By the way, let's talk about something important. If you can pull this up, Rob.

Starting point is 01:26:24 It's probably the most important issue taking place in the country today. You can pull it up, deeply concerning specifically for those who live in the state of California. Skittles. Yeah, if you can pull this up, we have to bring attention to this catastrophic. So California becomes the first state to ban skittles. No, this has got to be a Babylon v article. And 12,000 additional product for pants.

Starting point is 01:26:49 Is this that kind of thing? I think it's real. No, the way. Okay, what is the watch puberty that does? When you know it's a whole watch puberty, you know it's for watch who retweets it at the top. Go see who retweets it at the top. Mario Lopez, say by the bell.

Starting point is 01:27:02 Oh my God, there's a big guy. Man, I'm on. Okay, so crime is this real first? So is the story real? We're gonna look this up. We're gonna look this up. Crime is by the bill. Oh my god, they're speaking. Okay. So is this real first? The story we're going to look this up. We're going to look this up. Crime is through the roof. Rob, go back to the tweet. I don't believe it.

Starting point is 01:27:12 Go back to it. Yeah. Crime is through the roof. Worst truck epidemic ever. Homelessness at an all-time high in California. Let's focus on skittles. Okay. By the way, they respond to back to it.

Starting point is 01:27:21 And there's a story that says, you've seen this or no? No, I haven't seen it. Yeah, they responded back to it and there's a story that says You've seen this or no done. I haven't seen it. Yeah, they respond back to it and They said no, some just signed that California Skittles banned into a law USA today new California law won't ban skittles, but could change food additives, okay? USA today responds so it is a back and forth So funny. It up. Yeah, governor Newsom on Saturday. It's almost believable. Yeah, no, no, no, hang on one second.

Starting point is 01:27:50 Because it is true though, this is the part, the fact that you're thinking this is a pebble on B story. It's removing four. Makes me want to share this even more. Share to USA Today's story that I just texted you, that at least this one's gonna give it. So, and then if you go a little lower, I'll just read it for him to see it. Second paragraph, I just texted you that at least this one's gonna give it. So, and then if you go to the lore, I'll just read it for him to see

Starting point is 01:28:06 it's second paragraph I just texted it to you. The article reads, a build that became known as the Skittles band is now California law. This is USA Today. Okay, so check this out. A build that became known, okay, zoom out a little bit more,

Starting point is 01:28:21 no, a little bit more, there you go. And then zoom in, a build that became known, can you show what the sources? USA Today, a build that became known as the Skittles Band is now California law, here's what it does. Governor Newsom on Saturday signed a law misleading known as the Skittles Band, which will prohibit the manufacturer and sale of four chemicals used in as many as 12,000 food products. Okay, go a little lower on the second paragraph. Governor Newsom on Saturday, Santa Miss Leading Law,

Starting point is 01:28:46 knows the president is okay, a prominent vegetable oil, potassium bromate, and a couple of the things, red dye three, the four chemicals are used, and as many as 12,000 products across the country, despite never having been approved for consumption by the Food and Drug Administration, according to an environmental working group,

Starting point is 01:29:03 advocates have long expressed concerns about the potential health problems that can be caused by eating these products. Can you imagine if people leave California for banning skittles, but not for forcing COVID vaccine? Can you imagine? Can you imagine,

Starting point is 01:29:15 obviously when I'm saying COVID vaccine force, they almost did. And Mario Lopez, I wanna finish up his tweet. Can you go back to the tweet on what he said? Go up there, yeah, zoom out, there you go, zoom in a little bit at the top. Crime is through the roof. War step of the mech ever.

Starting point is 01:29:29 Homeless is at an all time high. But let's focus on skittles. I'm shocked that he's in with that. He is like Hollywood. He's in the in crowd, right? He's in the in-cut for him to go again. Well, you know who else has been saying stuff like this? Oh, he has.

Starting point is 01:29:42 Mark Walberg has. Mark Walberg's turning. Yeah, he's Mark Walberg has. He's to Nevada. He's there. He's fully there, by the way. He's Mark Walberg. Yeah. Mark Walberg's turning. Yeah. He's Mark Walberg. Cass. He's the Nevada. He's there. He's fully there. By the way, he's knocking on the door. Chris Pratt has been there for a while. Okay. So more and more people are starting to kind of say, it's a little bullshit. I mean, I'm not good with this year. Right. And Mario Lopez, who we've had at

Starting point is 01:30:00 same event, you were at Vegas. Walberg, we know about Chris Pratt, we know about. Chris Pratt we know about. But Martin Lopez, I mean, he's the guy that you've gone any hotel ever. He's the guy that doing the whole movie. I think Mario was on Kanda Sons like a year and a half ago. Yeah, that's right. He's some like that, right? He got a trouble for saying something.

Starting point is 01:30:17 He does the, uh, the movie, the movie guide stuff. Yeah. Exactly. But I challenge you guys out there to find me one Gen Z Hollywood actor. Find me one. Gen Z. So that's 25 and under, who's center right. Find me one that you can name.

Starting point is 01:30:34 I can't think of one. I mean, you're put it in the comments. But if you're not in that Hollywood elite woke left crowd, moboms, I may call it. You're canceled. So, you know, when you have an established career, like Mark Walberg or even Chris Pratt, and you sort of, you're sort of... Mark Walberg is an OG, though. I mean, Mark goes back.

Starting point is 01:30:55 Boston, I'm gonna, no, is it I'm gonna, who was this, don't call it a comeback, which one is the song? Don't call it, it's, no, no, no, no, no, that's a lot of cool, no. Good vibrations, you know, good vibrations, yeah. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, like thing about these Skittles thing. If California was a candy, it would be Skittles. 1000% with the LGBT and the D.E.I.E.S.E. and everything that's going on.

Starting point is 01:31:33 There you go. I'm like, I love Skittles. You'll be bold. Starburst Skittles. You talk about my language. Boysen, but California banning Skittles. I was actually thinking about going back to California, moving there, but it's bad.

Starting point is 01:31:44 The thing about this though, this is gonna be great for you know who when the Santas debates him falls the Santas I look like as he leaves you to go. You like some skittles. Taste the rainbow. I would screw with him every moment. I'd be like Somebody which how a shame on you for eliminating the rainbow in the city, California. Oh really shame on you Guess what yeah, yeah, just troll him the whole time the whole time By the way your thoughts on this debate with the Santas and Newsom is it is it like I've never heard of this happened

Starting point is 01:32:16 And before one's running for president once not what what do you think? Well, first? I mean Newsom is slick He he's he's got a talent and I'm just going to be honest like I game knows game right and that guy can play. Um, this is he fell for it. He fell for it. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone he said that about. Yeah. And I mean, he goes on conservative media and he can play. I don't think he'd survive the P.B.D. podcast, but he he he prays on conservative media that he has an open invitation. Yes. And I mean, I say him on my show anytime Gavin Newsom can come on the show. So, um, as from for presidential standpoint, I mean, say him on my show anytime Gavin Newsom can come on the show so As from for presidential standpoint, I mean Trump's gonna be the nominee So it's kind of just a waste of time. I do think it's actually healthy to have a conversation though

Starting point is 01:32:53 And this is why I wish to Santis would just right now see where he's at dropout become a great governor and Reassert that he's been a great governor and continue to be I'll say nothing but positive things But the the national conversation is there are really two America's being a great governor and continue to be. I'll say nothing but positive things. But the national conversation is, there are really two Americas being built right now. And California is a hellhole. It's a dystopian nightmare. If you have money, you can maybe escape it, but it is a hellhole on the streets,

Starting point is 01:33:17 drugs, homelessness, vagrancy, mutilation of children, quality of standards of education, businesses, taxes, and Florida is a completely different environment and Patrick, I was in California last week just from an energy standpoint, like a vibe and an attitude. The people in California are just heavy and dark and just, it's not the spirit. I come to New York's thing, guys.

Starting point is 01:33:39 No, but I mean, it's not the California energy that I'm used to. I come here in Florida and boy, things are happening, man, right? It has a buzz to it. Florida would love to have you by the way. Well, thank you. I need to save Arizona, just for the record. You want me to save Arizona. If Arizona's not saved, there's no republic.

Starting point is 01:33:54 So you want Charlie Kirk and Arizona. Charlie, you're sort of echoing what PBD has been saying for weeks now, if not months, that after railing on Newsom for years during COVID, called him U-Haul employee of the year, we saw that, you know, at U-Haul, to go to California is like a thousand dollars to get the hell out of California,

Starting point is 01:34:13 it's like five thousand dollars. But he's slick. He's killed. What is it about him that people in California recognize, oh, I hate that guy, but he goes on, conservative media and he dominates. Well, yeah, first of part of it is, you used to write where it's dominant.

Starting point is 01:34:31 Part of it is just, he's so cocky that he's just kind of intimidates the host and talks over him and he just tries to act more alpha. That's why he would not do well with Patrick that day, right? That dog would not hunt around here, right? And because he would avoid that, Tucker Carlson would obliterate him, right? That dog would not hunt around here. Right. And because he would avoid that, Tucker Carlson would obliterate him, right? Would you agree, Patrick? It would be sports, right?

Starting point is 01:34:52 It would be a spectacle and it would be just out of control. So, but now- You're saying Hannity is a lightweight? No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying Hannity is used to old cable television and not new age internet, lifetime, back and forth type debate style. It's not, Sean's a friend and I'm not accusing Sean. So I think Sean is treating Gavin Newsom like a 1990s cable guest where you kind of both state your point. And you say, oh, that's nice having you. Thanks, you know, Mr. Colms, right, Hannity and Holmes.

Starting point is 01:35:19 Gavin Newsom plays the new age viral TikTok debate. I'm gonna one up you, I'm you, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm gonna get that 30 second boom, boom. Put it on social. It's like, oh, he owned him. Yeah. I kind of live in that world, right? That's right.

Starting point is 01:35:32 You definitely wanted though. You got, yeah, of course. We helped, you got a few billion views of that. Yeah, we have a couple of bills, exactly. We help create that genre, Shapiro, Walsh, Candace and I. We are kind of some of the pioneers there. Oh geez, yeah. So I see Nuson, I'm like, either he gets it intuitively,

Starting point is 01:35:45 spends a lot of time on social, or he has a team that's kind of coached him. And so it's not a knock on Hannity. But, yeah, Ron DeSantis better treat this kind of in that format. This is not a policy debate, okay? Gavin Newsom's is gonna lie, right? So one of the rules of Marxist is show, don't tell, okay? So here's how DeSantis should handle it.

Starting point is 01:36:04 Cause I'm gonna be cheering for DeSantis, right? Disandist will say, you know, governor Newsom, someone's leaving your state every eight minutes. And Gavin Newsom, like, no, no, that's not true. And do we have all these great. And so he has to literally Gavin Newsom has to New York times. So you Gavin Newsom, someone's leaving every eight minutes. You have to show fact. Check it. You know, you know, you know, the thing that Trump did when he's like, yeah, let me know. Yeah. No, you got a lot of nonsense. Mark Marxist hate it when you show. Telling is not enough because they'll just lie. Yeah, okay. Like when Trump brought the four women that accused all my, oh, it was the most big blowing thing all of a sudden to a president of the state. Trump, all of a sudden.

Starting point is 01:36:41 Jerry Springer, all of the, all the most insane thing I've ever seen, when he showed the world. And if you remember what Clinton looked like in that debate, Hillary was freaked out. Yeah. Hillary was like, is really bad about Trump said. Let's talk about bombing Russia. Yeah, exactly. And it was just like, wait, all of a sudden it was over.

Starting point is 01:36:57 And so, I actually like the idea that the debate is happening. The presidential implications are silly. But the debate of, you can have a different country based on how states operate is very interesting. Florida has unbelievable outcomes, right? In education, and you guys, you're audience knows it too. Keep it a secret here, though, Charlie.

Starting point is 01:37:15 Nobody knew about Florida and Miami until you guys are showing up. But I will say, if, if, if, Newsom ties and or wins that debate, it would be a tragedy. It would be because the facts are so not on his side. Do you agree Patrick? I mean, it's like defending the Soviet Union. But give me the argument, what does he have to win? What does he have to gain? What does the Sanctus have to gain?

Starting point is 01:37:38 Well, he's from doing that. He's down 50 points with Trump. It's not a bad idea. He's trying to get some sort of visibility, right? He's trying to get some sort of credibility. So, um, I'm not, I'm not overly impressed right now with DeSantis's ability to play ball with this kind of game, right? Where DeSantis is like, come, do the speech, do great policy move on. Now Trump v. Newsom, woo! Like Trump would just, you know, that Trump is built in that kind, he kind of created that kind of, you know, you'd be in jail and you know, boom, and we'll bomb him and this and that

Starting point is 01:38:08 and like the one line or is he's just like, Oh, he's the, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, you want to talk about gangster pat, you talked earlier, Trump, Trump bringing the rape victims so that that is gangster. Yes, it's, by the way, him, him, him, him when Hillary goes,

Starting point is 01:38:21 it's awfully good that, you know, Trump is in charge of the laws in his country and he goes, yeah, because you'd be in jail. That is a gangster, a writer, and my wife, I was new to go further with the Skittle thing. If I was DeSantis, I would, because you know, he sits there and they're going to be face-to-face. I would fill up those high hill, the highway boots with Skittles. Yeah. And honestly, if I was DeSantis, I would get nasty first.

Starting point is 01:38:42 I would go low. This guy's a bad dude. You see, you know what, Gavin? What, where you've ever been in charge where it's not hell? San Francisco's a hellhole. You never take responsibility for anything. If you believe in San Francisco so much,

Starting point is 01:38:54 will you walk at 3 a.m. from Fisherman's Wharf through the Trans-America building without a bodyguard, yes or no, Gavin Newsom? Show me, show me that you would walk from Fisherman's Wharf. And Gavin, you're a filibuster. No, know, no, no, you're a filibuster. No, no, no, no, no. You wouldn't, better question. Would you let your son, would you let your son at 3 a.m.

Starting point is 01:39:10 in San Francisco, guess what, 30 years ago, the answer was of course, one of the safest cities in the planet. Now they get mugged, you get kidnapped, right? You get defecated by some crazy person. That's how you have to play that game with Gavin. Aggression, put him on defense because he plays ball, man. Like, I'm just being honest. The gamer. I think he's one of the specters. No, I expect a lot. He and I'll be honest.

Starting point is 01:39:31 Like, the fact he showed up at the Republican debate, like that dude has stoned. Like, I'm not gonna lie, right? Like, I mean, you agree. You go to the Reagan library. Like, anyone can come up and film a question. I was like, man, that's like, yeah, that's correct. Is this the Sandus' Hail Mary to use that term again? Does Sandus knock me down? Hail Mary, he's down 56 nothing with like 30 seconds left on the clock.

Starting point is 01:39:55 Sure, it's like all like moral points at this point. Yeah, how is he still fundraising at this point? I think he just brought in another $20 million whatever the number was. Iowa. I'm sure. I hope people still have this entire team to I.O. of the team.

Starting point is 01:40:08 This consultants can be very persuasive. And also a lot of these donors, they don't live in the grassroots like I do. Like I give hundreds of speeches a year, okay? I get, I can read an audience really well. Who are you voting for? I'm like, whoa. And then you see it in the polls and you confirm it. And it's across the board.

Starting point is 01:40:22 The polls don't matter according to the census, surely. Well, okay. I mean, show me one when you're certainly. Well, okay, I mean, that's show me one when you're within 10 points, right? I mean, it not just polls, how about audience size, like social media chat or show me one metric? How about this, small dollar donations, Trump raised $30 million to Santa's race like five or six, you can fact check me on it, right?

Starting point is 01:40:38 And his last quarter, it's the small dollar donors equal, Bernie Sanders actually showed us this, right? Everyone was like, oh oh Bernie isn't real And I was like man the dude has like a million donors He's gonna give Hillary a run for her money and he was right right if you have people that give you ten bucks That's like a basically a thousand vote. Yeah, right? And it was it was right like Bernie Sanders played against him So no, but Gavin here's the thing with Gavin Gavin is a cocky S. O. B. He is a cocky got cock It's the Trump of the left.

Starting point is 01:41:05 Yeah, but in that money and the... He is, he is, Edmila, yeah. He's the guy that walks around with his nose up in the air. And one of these days, he's gonna get crossed over by someone who knows the game better than him, right? So that he's gonna get punched in the mouth metaphorically by a PBD or a Tucker or a Walsh or a Shapiro or someone

Starting point is 01:41:25 like me. Because there's only so much ball you could play and Icarus is going to fly too close to the challenge. And Charlie, one could argue that Gavin Newsom is the definition of fake news. He's almost like the emperor has no clothes on. He's running around with this, uh, holier than the, uh, methodology, ideology. I'll show up anywhere. Yes.

Starting point is 01:41:45 But under the cloak, it's homelessness, the crime, nakedness. The only, I mean, this is the truth, and I've actually thought deeply about this. The only reason California is not like legitimately affordable countries, because of the weather. At this point, and there is nothing left except the weather. I talk to people in California, I'm like,

Starting point is 01:42:03 okay, so you got like vagrancy everywhere. You got highest taxes, regulation, California franchise tax board, the schools are a mess. Why? Well Charlie, have you ever walked at 67 degrees in the morning in thousands of California? It is so crazy, but you're so right. And it's awfully persuasive.

Starting point is 01:42:19 I gotta be honest. Like if you walk up to those, you know what I'm talking about? That do miss and kind of the marine layer that sets in. And it's kind of like that Aspen feel. You're those, you know what I'm talking about? That do miss and kind of the marine layer that sets in. And it's kind of like that Aspen feel you're like, yeah, maybe I don't. Maybe I don't care for the homeless guy. But they don't have the guy that's like, yeah, I would love to do that.

Starting point is 01:42:34 But gas costs $7. No, I can't have been making it on the other side of the table. What I'm saying though is it would be so much worse, right? It's like it's almost California is a test case of how bad you you make a civilization with like pleasant mornings and evenings. For me they cross the language kittles. It's over. It's not doing this video. It's not an exaggeration. It's just it's it's that looks like a different country. Yeah, that's actually Hollywood. Where's that? That's an LA. That video's that video's from a couple years ago, but it hasn't. I wasn't I hadn't gotten better. Had I genuinely left right,

Starting point is 01:43:05 like that right there under the bridges in Burbank, like Laurel Canyon, that's, it was, we got your old house, right? That's why I was a part of it. Right there, that's what happened, is that she my apartment. But yeah, it's getting really, really bad, but you nailed it, bro.

Starting point is 01:43:21 People did the traffic, everything's like, yeah, but the weather. Nice, there's no, I went surfing this morning and I'm going skiing in the afternoon, but people like did the traffic. Everything's like, yeah, but the weather. Nice. There's no need. I went surfing this morning and I'm going skiing in the afternoon. Yeah, there's no humidity. Let's let's go. By the way, you know, I think about it.

Starting point is 01:43:32 Trump, I don't know if he drives a car or not. Once a lesson, he drives a car. He doesn't. He doesn't worry. He doesn't have a last-minute car. I saw him the other day for an hour and a half. We didn't talk about that, but you know, he talks openly about how he misses driving. He used to love driving.

Starting point is 01:43:43 Really? Yeah. P.B.D. I figured it out. This is my kind of guy. He doesn't drive. He doesn't drive. You know, like, forza everywhere, that's my guy. No, no, no, no, that's right. Exactly.

Starting point is 01:43:52 No, I didn't make it up. Donald Trump misses driving. So that's right. That's so freaking fun. I can see it though. But by the way, I can see him driving. And if he's by himself, you know what song I see in plain, Thug Life, for sure.

Starting point is 01:44:01 By himself. There's a video of him, Melania and Baron in the car. And they were playing like Taylor Swift or something. He's playing thug life for sure. I'm sorry. The bi himself. They're fucked. There's a video him, Melania and Baron in the car. And they were playing like Taylor Swift or something. He's playing you. It's a mob. What was it? I don't see Taylor Swift. No, no, it's Trump driving in the car with Melania and Baron.

Starting point is 01:44:15 And he's playing it's something. I don't know. I'm saying when he's bi himself, it's like all I need you in this video. That's the video. It's the in Melania. So that's DJT driving on the Brooklyn Bridge. is when what's it listen to years ago like 10 years They'll listen and it's not a good luck for Trump to be just jammed

Starting point is 01:44:35 But by the way you know what's weird. He's not controlling the guy. It does his son or he is all Baron is sitting to the right Baron like seven nine that's huge Oh, Baron is sitting to the right. Oh, it's Baron. Baron's like seven foot nine. That's huge. Future center of the Dallas Maverick's undercuban. Let's go to the next story here before we wrap up.

Starting point is 01:44:49 Rob, can you put up the story with this is Vinnie's story. One of Vinnie's favorite porn stars, me, Khalifa, if you want to kind of a, such a good girl, do you want to, do you want to talk about what's going on here with her? Do you want me to break down one of those? Go ahead. Go ahead.

Starting point is 01:45:02 Such a great actress. I mean, I wouldn't call her a porn star anymore. But anyway, the level of hypocrisy in this story is what I want you to break down what I want? Go ahead, go ahead. So it's such a great actress. I mean, I wouldn't call her a porn star anymore, but anyway, the level of hypocrisy in this story is what I want you to be great to. But go ahead. So a former porn star, Mia Khalifa, she basically praised the homos if you guys have seen for what they know that,

Starting point is 01:45:15 that sweet is unbelievable. Yeah, though, can someone please tell the freedom fighters in Palestine to flip their phones and film horizontally? And Pat, you said this at the beginning of the podcast and something like this, the crisis of this magnitude, people really show who they are. When the grass is coming. The grass is coming.

Starting point is 01:45:32 The snakes will show. So she said that, which is basically saying, hey, can I get a better look? I want an HD wide version of children and people getting murdered and burned to death. But you guys don't want to know the most ironic part, the ironic part about the whole situation. Those same freedom fighters that she is praising would chop her head off if she went to Palestine or she went anywhere in the Muslim world and just told, you nailed it.

Starting point is 01:45:58 She was having sex with the, on top of the Palestinian tribe and the hit job on. Let me explain something to you. What? On the flag, right? She was having sex with the dude on the flag and she had a hijab on. I'm telling you, Mia, all this. Right there. Read the story. To kill porn star Mia Khalifa, for having sex in a hijab.

Starting point is 01:46:18 Let me explain. And ISIS is almost a similar methodology. I would dare you to go to any one of these Muslim nations and talk that shit. Don't even talk that shit. Show your face and they're going to, you're gonna disappear and they're gonna behead you. So for her to be praising what they're doing

Starting point is 01:46:37 to innocent people is absolutely disgusting. And but it's only a matter of time with something like this. Like, Bully, she's on their radar. Yeah, that's right. she's not going like there And especially with what this this Friday the 13th this guy's calling for a g-hot. She should be hiding More than anybody. Well the cognitive dissonance and the moral authority from a three-time divorced literal porn star that has sex on the Palestinian flag to oh my to equivocate what's happening right there. Like this is only in America. Well, and I'll

Starting point is 01:47:09 worry left feminist Palestinian sympathizer, Hamas sympathizer can give some equivocation here. How do you break this down? Well, I mean, I said this earlier, I mean, she's not alone, though. I mean, this, the reaction to what happened in Israel has showed us a, disturbing window into how widespread, um, Jew hatred and evil is. It's been, it's been a massive, massive wake up call for some people. I mean, it college students elites that are cheering it on, that are saying it's terrific what happened. Um, and the butchery, the savagery, and, I mean, I, it's not hard to understand how the Holocaust happened.

Starting point is 01:47:47 And Charlie, can I ask you a question, bro? Like the squad, because you saw reports, somebody from, I think I could, I'm guessing it was Fox, they were going up to, what's her name? Not Elon Omar, who's the other one? I wish you'd have told me. We should have told you right there.

Starting point is 01:48:01 They were just asking her, and if it's okay, we'll show it. They're just asking her, Are you cool with children getting beheaded? I get that you're from Palestine and I understand that you have the flag. She's born in America. She's born in America, but that's. And some of them were beheaded right in front of their parents and then their parents were killed after the parents had to watch their babies beheaded. So that's what and then she has a Palestinian flag outside

Starting point is 01:48:30 of her office. So Hillary is asking her about, do you condone what's happening? Watch. What's the most serious and health problem that all of the babies have been for children alive. Do you support Israel's rights to defend themselves in this challenge?

Starting point is 01:48:46 For handlers in front. You can't comment about Hamas Terence chopping up baby heads. Do you condone what Hamas has done chopping up baby heads, burning children alive, breaking, wetting, and threesome? Look at that. She doesn't give a shit. Oh, of course she doesn't care.

Starting point is 01:49:02 Why would she? She doesn't care. She follows its older to the elevator. I would have gone in with it look look what is he gonna do like who is this guy get out of here bro yeah because because about this uh because that two things can exist two things can exist in the same time, right guys? You can denounce what Hamas is doing to the innocent lives. And at the same time, still say, my heart goes out to the Palestinians

Starting point is 01:49:34 and the children that are gonna be affected. I mean, it's just a typical political answer. Terrible what happened. Please leave me alone. You know, let's let tension simmer. But she's silent, you know why? Her constituency supports this. Yup.

Starting point is 01:49:47 And we don't have time to get into that Patrick, but it's, it has been a big disappointment how many American Muslims have been vocal in support of this. It's been a massive, massive disappointment. One thing to consider is, look, as a Jew, you know, I empathize with the people of Gaza. I do. If you're dealing in this sort of quasi-open-air, prison-style system with unlocked out, I get it. Why would you be angry?

Starting point is 01:50:14 But you also have to look in the mirror. You've elected Hamas to be over 50% of your government. That is ISIS. That is Hezbollah. That is Al-Kaeda. That's who you've elected. Now, for the other half that did not elect them, I empathize with you.

Starting point is 01:50:28 But here's the next question. You talked about the allies or the peace treaties that Israel has, whether it's Jordan, whether it's Egypt, whether they're working on it. They have to be very careful. The country right next to Gaza is what? Egypt. Egypt.

Starting point is 01:50:42 So let's focus on Egypt for a second. They don't want them. Okay, why won't Egypt open up their borders? The Sinai Peninsula is right there. That's right. Massive desert. Why won't they open their borders to help their fellow Muslim brotherhood?

Starting point is 01:50:55 Why won't they do that? Because they know once they open those borders, it's not just innocent civilians coming through. That's exactly right. It is Hamas, militant, Islamic terrorists. Everyone in the region knows the truth. That will be showing up to Egypt. So everyone wants a place blame on Israel, and I get it.

Starting point is 01:51:12 Let me put it up. But let's talk about your friends Egypt right there being like, no, no, nothing to see here. No, no, no, no. Why not, Egypt? What Netanyahu should do. If we had an American president, which we don't, we have a traitor in the

Starting point is 01:51:25 Oval Office, is the next flight should be to the Middle East and say, BB, we give you four billion a year. Don't invade yet. You can do your rockets or whatever. And you bring in the King Abdullah from Jordan. You bring in whoever is Al-Sisi still running Egypt, I can't keep track. You bring in anyone who's sympathetic and you have a joint press conference or you're first in meeting with BB and say, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna go in and kill Hamas, okay? And you let the Arab leaders talk. Deep down, the Arab leaders actually hate Hamas.

Starting point is 01:51:53 They really do. They know it's aligned with Iran. You gotta get these guys in a room. You gotta have some sort of an agreement. Some sort of, the problem is, again, overreaction, it's just gonna take one of these actors. All it takes is for Egypt to say our neutrality is gone.

Starting point is 01:52:09 Whew, man, that would be a disaster. It would be a disaster for the world. But that's where American leadership can come in, right? Trump would do that immediately. He did the Abraham Accords. Joe Biden has everyone at war, Donald Trump had peace with Israel, Saudi Arabia, the UAE. He had flights going from the UAE to Israel, still does, because of what Donald Trump did. And Joe Biden has babies being butchered in Israel.

Starting point is 01:52:35 When America's not at least diplomatically leading, you got serious, huge problem. Gang, again, as usual, it's always great to have the great Charlie Kirk here with us. Thank you guys. Charlie, keep doing what you're doing. Love the show. Your voice is very important. Subscribe to the podcast every time. This is your third time being here.

Starting point is 01:52:50 A fourth time. I think this is the third time. And the last time before you turn 30, isn't that amazing? Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Charlie Kirk. Can I give a quick shout out? If you haven't seen on value team in PBD, just did a video called Israel versus Palestine explained. You did it yesterday. It's almost at two million views right now, which is, which is awesome.

Starting point is 01:53:11 I think you did a great job. I think you were fair, but you also held the feet to the fire too, who actually are the terrorists here. So respect to you for doing that. You've gotten a lot of praise for doing that respect, PBD. And by the way, do we have another podcast later this afternoon? We may have another one. Okay. Gotcha. And I'm doing a big event for SouthCast this evening, late night after hours, party time.

Starting point is 01:53:34 And I'll talk next Wednesday, I know it's your birthday. October 18th, I'll be at the Tampa improv. I'm opening for Vinnie. I'm the opening. Gang, have a great one. We'll do this again. Take care everybody. Bye bye bye, bye, bye. you

PBD Podcast - Charlie Kirk | PBD Podcast | Ep. 314

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