PBD Podcast - Clintons Clash With Comer Over Epstein Testimony w/ Rep. Jared Moskowitz | PBD #733

Episode Date: February 6, 2026

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana are joined by Rep. Jared Moskowitz as they break down the discovery of a Chinese-linked biolab inside a Las Vegas home, escalating fa...llout from the Epstein files, and a Bitcoin-led crypto rout wiping out nearly $2 trillion in market value.----👕 VT ALLEGEDLY COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/3ZVlemY🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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Starting point is 00:00:02 I don't think you would make it? I feel I'm supposed to taste sweet. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signed. Right here. You are a one of one?
Starting point is 00:00:20 My son's right there. I think I've ever said this before. My Bob Clarks and somebody's like, why would you wear old man's shoes? They don't work. They're not attractive. I'm like, wait a minute. They're not attracted. They used to make something called the Wallabagman.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Okay, folks, we have a lot of things going on here. People are fighting out here. Mike, are you good? Mike, you're all right? Mike is beating somebody up. You okay? All right. Sounds good. Very aggressive. Lots of things going on, and we have a very interesting guest with us here. I don't know how, you know, what, let me give you some facts about this guy.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Number one, he wears J's in the chamber. Nice. And I'm talking like when he goes to the White House, you know, they go to the chamber. All these congressmen are together. He wears Jays, and they say nothing to him because they're required to wear close-toe shoes. so that's considered close tone. He likes to follow guidelines. But there's a few other things about him
Starting point is 00:01:10 that we need to know about. There's rumors. He may or may not like Michael Rappaport. I don't know what's going on over there. May like, may not like, we're trying to figure this part out. And the other part that we like about this guy is back in the days during COVID, he was one of 11 Democrats who voted to end, what was it, the COVID, you know,
Starting point is 00:01:32 National emergency. He was one of 11. Not popular. Love it. If you're on that side. So California Democrats don't like this guy. Some of them probably like him. I don't know. I'm just saying it's a different Democrat in Florida than it is in California. I got a bunch of other things I can say about him. But voted for Lieberman, if I'm not mistaken. I got a bunch of other things here. Anyways, it's great to have you on a podcast. Thanks for having. Appreciate it. Yes. Great to have you on a podcast. Adams got a lot of good things to say about you. I wrote him. We have to get a briefing from Adam. Adam said he's a, he's a great to have. He's a good. good guy. He's this, he's that. So if you need an agent, if you ever... We met at the White House a month ago. We did. Had a good conversation and I said you should come on the podcast. He said, let's do it. And here we are. Something tells me you guys
Starting point is 00:02:14 get along because Moskowitz, Sosnake, like there's something going on there. I'm not understanding what you're saying exactly. He's saying at some point our fate is the same. Exactly. Exactly. But I'm betting on Jesus right now. There's apparently something going out there. That's what Vinny said. You said you were both Irish. All right. Okay. So story wise,
Starting point is 00:02:30 what's going out? A lot of weird things going out Folks, if you had money in AI or Bitcoin or XRP or anything, since October, when crypto hit its highest, $2 trillion of wealth has been wiped out. Just yesterday, $600 billion was wiped out in the stock market in equities. We're not talking crypto. I think $700,000 was wiped out this week from crypto. Bitcoin is down to $60,000. A lot of people are panicking.
Starting point is 00:02:59 We'll talk about that. I'm sure there's some thoughts on what's going on there. Amazon stock falls 10% on $200 billion spending forecast, earning missed, all the layoffs. That's a concern. A lot of people are talking about the layoffs. Clintons come out. That things are back and forth on Twitter with Hillary, specifically, not necessarily Bill. Rob, if I'm not mistaken, it's more Hillary than it is Bill.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Asking Comer, they want the hearing to be public. Comer wants to do it private. She wants it to be public. I don't know if this is posturing. I don't know what's going on. At the same time yesterday, the president was complimentary about Bill Clinton. He says, I don't like how they go after Bill sometimes. They kind of give him a hard time too much.
Starting point is 00:03:43 He is so interesting with the things that he does. We'll cover that as well. What is Save Act? Save Act. CNN polling finds strong voter ID support among black Americans and other groups. We'll cover that as well. And a few other stories that we got here. Trump administration halt small business loans to foreign nationals,
Starting point is 00:04:03 requiring full American ownership. Chinese-linked bio-lab discovered in Las Vegas homes sparked federal investigation with SWAT response. Then he got Karen Bass. She was not happy. Secretly altered Palisades fire analysis to downplay L.A.'s failure. Now, of course, that would never happen in L.A. this is allegations allegedly, who knows, will address that. J.D. Vance somehow some way is choosing to lead California's anti-fraud task force.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I wonder why they signed him to go and do this to California. Maybe, I don't know what this is. Maybe it's like a 2028 matchup prediction. Although, you know, people are down playing Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio is coming up. Let me tell you, Marco Rubio is kind of making a name for himself. The other day when we're in D.C. talking to people, it's interesting. Who was saying they're more Rubio than JD.
Starting point is 00:05:00 And maybe J.D. is trying to say, hey, man, I got some power here as well. And J.D. has come down a little bit. Rubio's come up a lot. So we'll see. We'll see what's going to happen. This is Kalshi, next U.S. presidential election winner. And we're talking $10 million of predictions that's been placed on Kalshi on that. So we'll see.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Maybe J.D. is trying to get back in a. Trump says Iran's Ayatollah should be very worried. I don't know if you guys saw the tweet yesterday. I'm sure you got some thoughts on Iran as well. We'll come to you. They said yesterday, any U.S. citizens that are visiting Iran, get out. Get out. You know, it's not good weather.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Apparently, there's going to be bad weather coming in like a bad storm. It's coming in, allegedly, and we'll see what that storm means. White House has confirmed that Dodgers will attend World Series ceremony. Good for them for attending. Apparently, the Japanese get up. along with the president because half that team is Japanese at this point. I'm sure. It seems like Dodgers want to sign anybody and everybody from Japan. You guys have a monopoly. There's a lot of words I can use with Dodger fans out there. Tom, I don't appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:06:07 But for now, it'll be settled because cameras are on. Is it 2027 already? They're going to be at the White House? Yeah. Oh, no, no, no. This is for last year. All right. Thomas and Dr. Cocky. Let's see you guys get the three-p. Minority owner of the Yankees. Trump slams Caitlin Collins for not smiling enough. And, you know, Vinny has some, reasons why he thinks she's not smiling enough.
Starting point is 00:06:26 I don't know what's going on there. Bernie Sanders spent over $550,000 in 2025 campaign funds on private jets. I don't know why socialists are upset at that. I mean, what's wrong with that? Like, what's wrong with, you know, traveling private? Bernie's trying to get somewhere faster. He's famous. And, you know, he's made a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:06:43 And, you know, it's like efficiency, right? I was flying about. If you're going to fight the oligranos and billions. Who flies private, you've got to meet them where they're in. 1,000. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. So that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Well played. Musk says a safe act requiring ID to vote must be done or democracy is dead. Melinda Gates is not happy. Some stuff happened. Someone was trying to put something in her drink. And now someone was apparently her ex-husband, which is your husband shouldn't put something in the drink. So she's upset. She wasn't in an interview.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Bill Gates has some regrets about his relationship with Epstein. And then guys, I have 50 stories on Epstein. I don't even know what. We'll go Epstein. And then we'll see what direction. will go. Kira Starmor, there's a Cali sheet today that just popped up that they're talking about when he's going to
Starting point is 00:07:29 be stepping out or not. I don't know if you guys saw this one. So as East Stipp was stepping out, it's pretty nasty because of... That's not good. That's 60. Yeah, it's not good. So we'll see what it happened there. ICE updates. Trump oversees lowest level of illegal
Starting point is 00:07:43 immigration at the border in over 50 years. But he does not believe that his team is doing a good job at public relations. Maybe he's right. And then we got a few other stories here. Hopefully we'll get to it. WAPO, a lot of people are unhappy with this guy named Jeff. They're not happy with him. They're just not because he fired not just 300 employees.
Starting point is 00:08:02 He fired 300 journalists, not editors, not designers, not copywriters, not any of that stuff, journalists. Like that's like firing 300 engineers and your job is coding. They fired 300 journalists. It's a mess over there at WAPO. Who knows? Maybe it's going to be on sale and somebody's going to be able to pick it up. And then a reporter confronts Billy Eilish at her house saying, can you please move you're on stolen land?
Starting point is 00:08:29 She refused. I don't know why she refused to move. And it was like a big deal. I'm still trying to get all my stuff back from Poland and Germany. You are? The houses and the paintings that were taken. Yeah. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Maybe one of these days. One of these days. The stolen land happens. We're going to follow up with you, Jared. Keep your hopes high. Something could happen. All right. Having said that, let's get right into Jared.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Take a minute. Share with the audience what your background is and what you. you do. So I'm from Broward County. Born and raised, family was from Brooklyn, came down here. My grandparents retired here. I went to Marjorie Stelman Douglas High School, you know, with the horrible shooting was at. I got elected really young. I got elected to the Parkland City Commission when I was 25. It was the youngest elected official in the state of the time. And, you know, the rest is really history wound up in the state house. I was there during the shooting. And then this guy, Ronda Santos, won for governor. I didn't vote for him, didn't support him,
Starting point is 00:09:19 supported the other guy, but they came to me and asked me to become the director of emergency management for the state of Florida, because that was my background in the private sector. I was doing emergency management. So, you know, I didn't want to take the job because I was like, how am I going to go work for a guy? I fundamentally disagree with, but then I, you know, I talked to those parents that, you know, buried their kids. Because government, if you look at what happened in parking government failed those parents.
Starting point is 00:09:41 They had, the FBI had hits on the kid. The school board did, you know, the sheriff's office. And so I took my political hat off, and I went to go work. for Ron DeSantis for two and a half years. I led the entire COVID response for the state of Florida when I think we got COVID right more than the other 49 states. And then he appointed me to the Broward County Commission. I'm a twice appointed Ron DeSantis Democrat, as my socialist opponent likes to point out. And then after that, after that I ran for Congress. And so, you know, that's kind of the history. You know, my wife is from here. You know, my kids, you know, we're all here.
Starting point is 00:10:16 We love Florida. Respect. And by the way, didn't. Did you get approached by the administration to run FEMA? Was there some talks with you in FEMA? Yeah, I mean, look, I met with the folks. I'm not going to go into the details. But, you know, I met with the folks at the highest level on whether they would be interested and I would be interested. Because I do think the president was right that FEMA needed reform,
Starting point is 00:10:39 and I was interested in reforming it. But unfortunately, that's not the direction that Nome has gone with FEMA. She's basically just dismantled it. Yeah. Okay. This is a little bit of background with our friend here, Jared. With that being said, let's get right into it. Rob, what is the top story the audience wants to talk about?
Starting point is 00:10:57 The Epstein Files. I hadn't heard about that. What is that? Okay, what direction do we want to go with this? Let's go through here. Let's start off with the first one here. So Hillary Clinton and James Comer are going back and forth. And this is the tweet from 23-so hours ago that got 14 million views.
Starting point is 00:11:19 For six months, we engaged Republicans on the Oversight Committee in Good Fate, and we told them what we know under oath. They ignored all of it. They moved the goalposts and turned accountability into an exercise on distraction. So let's stop the games. If you want this fight, James Comer, let's have it. In public, you love to talk about transparency. There's nothing more transparent than a public hearing, cameras on.
Starting point is 00:11:45 We will be there. Straight up, Hillary Clinton. President Trump comes back and says he doesn't like the fact that it bothers me, Rob, I think you got a clip on this one if you want to play it. Go for it. But it bothers me that somebody's going after Bill Clinton. See, I like Bill Clinton. I still like Bill Clinton. What do you like about him? I like, well, I liked his behavior toward me.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I thought he got me. He understood me. Okay, so, and by the way, I think this is the interview they're doing for, halftime Super Bowl, which he was actually impressed. He liked the interviewer, apparently, that they went back and forth. So, Jared, what do you think is going on over here with James Coleman, Hillary Clinton and the president? Well, first of all, I love the president's answer, right? What do you like about Bill Clinton?
Starting point is 00:12:31 I like that he likes me. We knew that was the first answer. Yeah. And then he went deep with it. He was like, I feel like Bill Clinton really gets me. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, oh, deep. He then later on in that interview, he says that, you know, Bill Clinton,
Starting point is 00:12:48 was telling everyone you don't want to run against Trump. So, you know, Bill Clinton's also his campaign advisor, apparently. Look, I think what's going on with this, I have a lot of history with Comer. I used to be on the Oversight Committee during the Biden impeachment. Remember that? They were going to impeach Joe Biden, which they never did because Comer never found any evidence. He called me a Smurf once. So you guys have history. You and Comer. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, I've been short, like, for 45 years, but this guy thought, like, oh, he's going to point it out and somehow that's going to get under my skin. How tall is he tall? Is he a 6-5?
Starting point is 00:13:20 He's tall. I mean, you know, and he's just a terrible chairman of oversight. He once said to me, I don't know if you know this, Jared, but I'm like the largest landowner in my county. And I was like, you know, Mr. Chairman, we don't value people anymore and how much land they own. That's like an old metric, you know, that we used to do. Where is he out of Kentucky? He's out of Kentucky.
Starting point is 00:13:40 You know, his own colleagues don't have a lot of respect for him because of the failed impeachment, just really embarrassed himself. But, you know, he's still the chairman. I'm told he's a fantastic farmer, so I'm happy for him, you know, value our farmers, love our farmers. But I'll tell you this, I think he's overstep what's going on. Tell me why. And I think that's why the president's saying what he's saying.
Starting point is 00:14:03 This is a really bad precedent for the Republicans. So you're now going to bring in a former president. Congress is going to bring in a former president in front of committee. You know whose antenna went up with that right away. Trump's. Trump's antenna went up with that. Not just Trump's, but maybe like Trump's kids, maybe like Trump's extended family, okay? Because I can tell you there are Democrats that are salivating at what Comer just did here. And this will be the Comer precedent. This will be the Comer legacy. And so when Jared Kushner or Eric or Jr. or their kids are, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:37 sitting in Congress in depositions, they can blame James Comer for creating this legacy. And there are Democrats. It's not. me because I don't I don't like this part I think the weaponization of this is this is not what America is about where we bring in our political opponents you know and we try to use the official process we're seeing it more and more and this is what happens in Congress it's like high school one side escalates and it's just more escalatory behavior do you think Comer and the president are speaking and the president saying to back off a little bit or I don't think you're speaking directly but I I view the president's comment that he he doesn't
Starting point is 00:15:13 like what's happening to Bill Clinton. It's a shame is what he said. I think that's a message to the people in Congress. Like, you do this, you understand they're going to, if Democrats take the House in November, there are very progressive chairman that can't wait to use this precedent on the administration. Now, what if the other side says, what are you talking about, Jared? They put 91 felonies on the guy. They tried to get him a mugshot.
Starting point is 00:15:40 What could be worse than what they did to Trump? This is like one 100, one 1,000 of what they did to him. Trump actually says that in the interview. He goes on in that interview and he says, you know, they did it to me. They tried to do it to me. And the funny, usually, you know, Trump, who's, you know, taking some retribution on some of those folks that did that. He doesn't have that towards the Clintons. He says Hillary's very capable in that interview.
Starting point is 00:16:03 So he doesn't have it towards the Clinton. Why do you think? I think they've known each other a long time. Remember, they're both from New York. You know, and I think he, I think Trump. Mutual respect? Mutual respect, but I think Trump's also a guy that, like, if he likes you, he likes you. And I think he likes Bill Clinton.
Starting point is 00:16:18 But I think his team recognizes they may lose the house. And there's a lot out there, right? There's a Qatari plane. There's the UAE investment. You know, there's all the crypto stuff. You know, there's a lot there. And there's all the Epstein stuff. I mean, Trump's name, whether, you know, there's evidence or not evidence,
Starting point is 00:16:36 Trump's name appears more times in the Epstein files than Harry Potter's name appears in the seven books about Harry Potter. Okay. And so, you know, this is, if this is where they want to go, this will come back to them in 11 months when, Tom, what do you think? Well, Discovery is a two-ed sword. And this is why big lawsuits with large corporations, usually they don't want to get to trial. They want to get to some sort of a settlement because Discovery can dig up other things and you go down to the rabbit holes. I think there's something going on behind the curtain here. you know, and for Hillary to say, cameras are on, we want to be there. The question is, what does Hillary want to say for those cameras?
Starting point is 00:17:18 What does she want to bring up for those cameras? And everybody, the one truth of the Epstein files, there's one simple truth, is that powerful people around the world have been trying to get their proxies and people in there to keep these from coming out. Now we see why, all the way from the Royals in Britain to the top of, prominent law firms in the United States, people resigning. And I don't think anybody, the timing is, Pat, don't you think timing is a little coincidental here? The Epstein files come out, the next drop, and suddenly the Clintons go from silent,
Starting point is 00:17:56 you know, kind of a, you know, we'll bring them up in contempt, James Comer saying. We'll bring him up in contempt. Clinton's silent speaking through proxy saying very little. The files come out and she's like, okay, you want a hearing? Let's have a hearing. Get the cameras on. What are you saying, though, Tom? What are you saying? I think she's sending a warning to people says, I could say things.
Starting point is 00:18:18 We know things. You know we know things. Do you want to go down this? Oh, I think there's a piece of that. Because, by the way, Hillary is not in the fight. There's no pictures with Hillary, right? The Hillary is not a part of this. There are pictures with Bill.
Starting point is 00:18:31 We've all seen them, right? So the Republicans, including Hillary in this, was, you know, them was an overreach. It had nothing to do with the Epstein. subpoena. It was like, oh, you know what, let's just try to do Hillary too, you know. And so Hillary's like, you want to bring me in? No problem. I'll have that game. And what she wants is she wants to show that she'll come publicly. Hunter Biden did this too when they wanted to subpoena. Hunter, he showed up to a hearing and Republicans wouldn't let him talk and talk in the hearing. Hillary wants the American people to see with the cameras. What Comer's been doing is he likes to do
Starting point is 00:19:03 these depositions in a basement. And then he comes out mid-deposition to the camera and says, here's what's going on in the room, right? So he can set the stage. So he can set the stage. This is an old tactic. Both sides have used this when we do these depos. But in a public hearing, you don't have that. You also have, you know, 20 Republicans, 20 Democrats.
Starting point is 00:19:22 They're all asking questions. It's a very different, let me say, show than a deposition in a room that you then can go out to the American people and say, here's what happened in there. Jared, it's 20, no matter who's a majority at the time, 20 Republican, 20 Democrats. No, the Republicans have more, I'm more remember. Because whoever has more seats gets more.
Starting point is 00:19:42 It's a 25. Oh, okay, I got it. Vinny, where are you out with this? Where are you at with this? Tom, say what I was in? In the modern news world, private hearings like that is a dirty business, whether you're Republican or Democrat, because intentional leaks come out and spin what's really being said, and the witnesses are bound not to speak.
Starting point is 00:20:00 That's right. So you have to go to your private deposition. Oh, what a dirty move on both sides. It is. It's dirty on both sides. Can you choose to say, I don't want to do it private, I want to do public, or they force it to do whatever they want to do. That's what's happening. So for the last six months, they have been negotiating on just the format. That's the, that's the disagreement here. They negotiating is who? Clinton's with Comer. The lawyers have been negotiating a format, right?
Starting point is 00:20:22 So let me give you an example, because I've been in these negotiations before. So the Clintons will say, well, the subpoena's on Epstein. We want it. So the questions can only be on Epstein. No whitewater, no history. Correct. And Comer will say, no, no limitations on topics. Well, the Clint's say, well, we're not going to agree to that. Okay. Because the subpoenas on Epstein. We're not going to talk about everything. And then they'll say, okay, you're going to get three hours with Bill Clinton. You're going to get three hours with Hillary. And Commer will say, no, no, I want unlimited time with both of them. Well, the Clintons are not going to agree to that either. Right. And so this has been going on for six months. They've not been able to
Starting point is 00:20:54 agree on how this will work. By the way, this happens. And every time they bring in a high level witness, right, they subpoena someone. These are the negotiations that go on. And so I I think Comer has moved the goalpost several times. Comer sent a demand letter to the Clintons. Okay, they originally didn't agree with everything. And then after this went back and forth, they eventually, after Comer said, well, then I'll hold you in contempt. Then the Clintons came out and said, okay, we will agree to every request in your letter. Except.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And then Comer said, well, I have some additional requests now. And right, and then that's factual. It's all factual. It's all factual. But so, but who has the leverage to make it private or public? Commer does. Comer does. So Comer can make it private or public.
Starting point is 00:21:35 The other side has to listen to. Exactly. Totally up to cover. I got it. Vinnie, go ahead. With all, I mean, there's so much to unpack. And I think going to the root of it, number one, all these people, all these powerful people, for the fact that they're saying Hillary has that type of attitude and that type of
Starting point is 00:21:50 gall, that means everybody has some dirt on them at some point, Jared. You mentioned Trump. I have a feeling everybody at some point did something wrong. In regard to these people, these powerful people, especially Bill Gates, emailing with your actual email. Bill Gates, like, how ignorant, number one, but what I think people are failing to understand or grassyard is the victims.
Starting point is 00:22:12 All these millions and millions of files, the young girls or the young boys. We're finding out all the tunnels. I saw a video of a tunnel underneath Epstein Island that went to the water. There's a trap door that just went down to the ocean. Like it's freaking shark food. People aren't understanding that the saddest part,
Starting point is 00:22:27 that's it right there, Pat. That was in the house. From the back of the house, you just dumped the freaking body in there? Or, whoa. Is somebody going to go skinny dipping? in that? Does that look like a skinny dipping thing? I think it comes down to the kids.
Starting point is 00:22:39 And I mean, now, and I'd mention this earlier, remember, and I know they want to call this the C word back when Pizza Gate, if you look at the tunnels and the underage kids and the pedophilia and all these people connected, it doesn't seem that far-fetched right now. So I feel like everybody has some type or dirt on them. Shame on every single one of them.
Starting point is 00:22:56 God have mercy on their souls because they're going to have to pay when it comes to these children. Because nobody's talking about that. I saw photos of him eating, like biting a kid's butt. Pat and I AI checked it three times. Epstein was around little children in pools, chasing little girls. And where are these people? No, I'm- Are these kids, Jared? You know what I mean? No, no, first of all, this is why Congress took that vote and forced this stuff to come out. Good.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Okay? Like, we were trying to- We were trying to force this stuff to come out because the victims do need justice. There should be justice for the victims. Epstein was the worst of the worst of the worst. And clearly, right, all of these people are in the files. Now, just because you're in the file doesn't mean you're guilty, okay? But clearly, some of these people were there, this idea that, oh, only Epstein did this, and no one else, zero people, right, else participated. No one believes that. And Jared, how, and especially great point, Jared, once he was arrested for sleeping with underage girls and prostitution and, and Lloyd, whatever the case was, they're still hanging out with them. For instance, if God forbid Tom did something
Starting point is 00:24:03 and had that type of conviction, I'm going to pray for him, but I will never hang out with him. I will never associate with him. I'm never going to his house. I'm never, he's out of my life, Jerry. I feel like you feel that way already. I think that's very helpful.
Starting point is 00:24:17 No, but Jared, you know what I mean? Like, that's the point is like these people kept these relationships. They kept going with him. They knew who he was. And Jared, it seems like he was protected. And so you were here when, you know, he got in trouble and all that stuff. Yeah, I was here when Pam Bonnie was the Attorney General
Starting point is 00:24:30 here. Afterwards, yeah, yeah. And he got the sweetheart deal. How does that, how does that happen, my brother? These are the questions that the American people on the internet have been asking. By the way, let me tell you this what's so impressive. Rob, can you go to the poll you ran? Look at our audience. Our audience generally lean more conservative, right?
Starting point is 00:24:47 He runs a poll and a poll says, do you want this hearing to be public or private? Look what the audience voted. Zoom in? Forty-200 voted. 91% wanted to be public. So they're voting on the side of Hillary They're voting on the side of, hey, we don't want to have anything kept from us. They want to hear what's going to be said. That's what I want to hear it.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I want the audience. The American people have been, it's Epstein is a, is a fast, it's obviously horrific, but it's a fascinating bridge of the political divide. Like we don't agree on anything, but the American people agree everything should come out. 91% Adam. By the way, can I say something about that? Can you pull up that one email I just sent you? It's stuff like this. That you realize, I just text, I just, yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Watch this. Look at this one of the stuff that's in the Epstein files. New Brazilian just arrived. Sexy and cute, nine years old. Weird. Nine years old. Legitimate FBI. This is from the file, Justice Department.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Nine years old. Who the hell are you emailing? Who is the other person that got the email? So the stuff that they were. Putting that in email? By the way, they're idiots. Rob, is that, is that what did they do to the tunnel? By the way, if the from is Jeffrey Epis.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Epstein, they would tell us. Exactly. That from is from somebody else. That from is somebody else. Who's the, who's the two? Two Epstein. That's Epstein is the GE vacation. That's his vacation. So, Jeffrey Epstein vacation.
Starting point is 00:26:16 So somebody else sent it to him. So who sent him? And those are pictures. His ringler. One, two, three, four, five JPEGs. Those are pictures. And look like Jeffrey Epstein vacation. This is everybody's vacation.
Starting point is 00:26:29 is going to the island with nine-year-olds. Okay. It's gross. I saw a video this morning. Adam, you go because I'm going to send a video to you, Rob, here in a minute. So this whole Epstein situation, the number one thing, the signal through all the noise here is people want some accountability. What the hell happened on this island? We know that Jeffrey Epstein was a world-class scumbag.
Starting point is 00:26:49 People want to know who else is hanging with this guy. So Hillary, Trump, Clinton, let's get into these names. Number one. Hillary just showed, I'm a gangster. I have nothing to hide. Oh, it's kind of like, oh, you want to fight? Oh, you want me to meet you outside? Cool, let's go.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Meet me outside. And now James Comer's like, no, I didn't really want to fight. I just wanted to talk tough. Hillary's basically like, yeah, I'll meet you after school right now. Let's do it in public. Let's do it in public. And he's like, no, I'm a little scared on that. Kind of like when Candace said, anytime, any place, let's go,
Starting point is 00:27:25 Turning Point. And they're like Tuesday at 3 o'clock, she goes, I'm busy. So that's a little shady right there on his part. Number two, Trump, watch what he does, not what he says. I don't think Trump cares about the Clintons. He's the guy that said, lock her up, lock her up. We didn't actually lock her up. Do you think Trump actually cares about Bill Clinton?
Starting point is 00:27:44 He brought five women who accused him of sexual misconduct to a debate, and Bill Clinton looked like he saw five ghosts. So he does not care about Bill Clinton's feelings whatsoever. That's self-preservation, which I think you. mentioned. Last point. People want accountability. And lastly, just because your name is in the Epstein file, in an email reference to, doesn't mean that you did anything wrong. John Stewart said it the other day, he goes, my name was in the Epstein file. They said, we should get someone like John Stewart to host an event to somebody goes, excuse me, someone like John Stewart? How about
Starting point is 00:28:23 just John Stewart, buddy? So just because your name's in something doesn't mean you did anything. And you remember what happened with Mike Tyson, Pat? Remember when he took a picture? What was the story? He took a picture with a murderer. Yeah, a guy comes and takes a picture with a murderer who had just killed eight people or some like that. Next day they come back to him saying, what's your relationship with this? Because I have no clue.
Starting point is 00:28:42 They just took a picture. So some of that's going to be happening. But what I'm saying is the part that people want to know is when you cross the line with kids, people change. Everybody's on the same page. It's like when 9-11 happened in New York, nobody cared if you're a Republican or a Democrat. Crossing the line with kids makes everybody part of the same party. There's this video I want to show, Rob, if you can pull it up. This happens in America.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Okay, watch this clip. Play it. You can start playing it. And you'll see this person asking people at the airport. Watch this. You said that you were on vacation and now you're moving this small child to the airport. I thought you were on vacation. Do you have any comment about children that have gotten missing that you've helped to escort across the country?
Starting point is 00:29:26 We have footage here. that a lot of these children don't know the sponsors that they are going to. What's going on? There's kids in the car here. And look what happens. When the truck leaves, the bags are left. They're panicking, leaving. You can pause this video.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Why am I showing this clip? Because you're now, they're saying, if you think for a second, he doesn't have ties to the Mossad, selling intel, and then there was a bunch of stuff with Putin. You said the amount of times that Trump's names mentioned more than Harry Potter and Harry Potter's eight books. But you hear how many times Putin is mentioned, how many times, you know, the names with Russia and Mossad, this has happening. People want to know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:30:08 I don't get people. I don't think people care where it's coming from. If it's us, let's find out. If it's Mossad, let's find out. People simply want to get to the bottom of it. I mean, it's so bad right now that Bill Gates's ex-wife, Melinda Gates, gets invited on an interview right after she's learning about the fact from the Epstein files that he caught an STD that he was worried about giving her
Starting point is 00:30:33 and Epstein told him allegedly what to take. What drugs to give her? Play this clip here. Go ahead, Rob. The emails in the files suggest that Bill Gates had additional affairs and that he tried to get medication to treat a sexually transmitted infection and that he was going to give you the medicine without you knowing. his representative has said all of this is false. It is not on you to have to respond to the details
Starting point is 00:30:58 of that alleged behavior, but I wonder what your dominant emotion is when you read these news articles with these details. A tins donut and coffee is the original collab. And now any classic donut is a dollar when you buy any size original or dark roast coffee. Get a deal on the iconic duo with a Tins dollar donut,
Starting point is 00:31:19 plus tax at participating restaurants for limited time. Terms apply. See up for details. It's time for Tams. Sad. Just unbelievable sadness. Unbelievable sadness, right? And again, I'm able to take my own sadness and look at those young girls and say,
Starting point is 00:31:43 my God, how did that happen to those girls, right? And so for me, it's just sadness, sadness for, you know, I've left my marriage. I had to leave my marriage. wanted to leave my marriage. I had to leave the fact. I felt I needed to eventually leave the foundation. So it's just sad. That's the truth. Did Bill respond? Bill Gates does respond. Can we can we play the? Yeah. And you know what he's trying to go? I'll let him play. I'll give my two. Pat, you study human nature. Yeah. Tell me. Yeah. Does that when you look at her like that, what do you think? I feel bad for her. I feel sorry. What do I see what Bill has to say?
Starting point is 00:32:19 Well, I tell you what I think. I think a couple things. I mean, look, it's, it's not even the believable part. I think the number one emotion is embarrassed, is embarrassed. Because look, guys, I mean, it's well documented. When these two got married, whatever, they were together for 27 years, I think in the pre-nup or some kind of agreement that they had that she agreed for him to go visit an X one week a year? I don't know if you guys have something like that. Yeah, yeah. So you can document that in a 1997 time exit profile. It was reported at Bill and Melinda Gates early in their relationship that could spend an annual long weekend with his former girlfriend and Winblatt. And this is not daily mail.
Starting point is 00:33:02 This is not, this is Time magazine profile in 97. So anybody that agrees to that pre-getting married, you pretty much agreed that there's something weird about this relationship you're getting into. Can you imagine if I go to my wife and I say, babe, listen, once a year, I'm hanging out my ex. Oh, okay. If you agree to that, we can get married. Yeah, by way, my, when I was getting married, my imagination, clearly wasn't big enough.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I mean, I mean, good Lord. Yeah, you were worrying about like a hundred moon. But she agreed to this guy. What I'm saying, that's what I'm saying. Forward thinking. But where I'm going to is I actually think Melinda, maybe not the Epstein stuff,
Starting point is 00:33:42 Melinda kind of knew, this guy's the richest man in the world I'm about to marry. I probably have to agree to certain things that maybe I wouldn't get if I married Mr. Johnson, who's a second grade teacher making 40. $27,200 a year. This guy makes out a second. It's a very different situation you got. So I think she kind of knew who she was getting into. Maybe not the Epstein guy. Here's Bill Gates responding. Go ahead, Rob. He was a lot of very rich people, and he was saying he could get them to give money to global health. You know, in retrospect, that was a dead end. And I was foolish to spend time with him. I was one of many people who regret ever knowing him. You've no doubt seen the allegations,
Starting point is 00:34:22 including some of them from the last 24 to 48 hours. Are they true? No, apparently Jeffrey wrote an email to himself. Draft. That email was never sent. The email is false. So I don't know what his thinking was there. It just reminds me every minute I spent with him,
Starting point is 00:34:42 I regret and I apologize that I did that. The problem is some of the things that he has sent and some of the information about other people that has come up in those. files has been true. Why would he do this and say this about you, do you think? You know, it's factually true that I was only at dinners. You know, I never went to the island. I never met any women. And so, you know, the more of it comes out, the more clear it'll be that, although the time was a mistake, it had nothing to do with that kind of behavior.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Do you believe it? Absolutely not. And again, everything is fact-based in this world. But whatever happened to your gut and your intuition. Nothing about what he's saying, I believe, with the amount of stuff that he is, by the way, this is just one, these are two emails that I read that he drafted by himself that he was about to send to Bill Gates.
Starting point is 00:35:35 To me, that's almost like a diary. Why would he make up something like that if he just didn't send it? It was still on his computer. He went into great detail about it. And just really, really quick path. You don't mind? Adam, when you said earlier about Hillary Clinton,
Starting point is 00:35:48 that you're saying that she's gangster, And she's like, hey, we don't have anything to hide. I don't think it's that. I think it's, hey, we're all guilty and we're all going to go down with a ship if you guys open your mouth. Crap, maybe. If I'm going down and putting everybody down. But the one thing, the one thing, Jared, I don't know your opinion. Yeah, but she didn't go to the island.
Starting point is 00:36:03 I think that's what she said. Absolutely. But the main thing I think, Bill Clinton had Jeffrey Epstein come to the White House. How many times, Rob, 11? 17. 17 times he came to the White House. Why is a known pedophile coming to the freaking White House to visit with him? And then Mark Middleton. The guy that hooked up the whole thing hangs himself, shoots himself in the chest, suicide,
Starting point is 00:36:24 and then they don't find the gun and it's ruled the suicide. That's a whole different situation. But the fact that Hillary knows if he goes down, everybody's going down. And that's how it is. What are you from, Jared? Well, I think the reason Hillary's acting like this, because, again, she has nothing to do with any of this. No one has ever accused Hillary with anything with Jeffrey Epstein. The Republicans threw her in to try to, you know, make it sexier.
Starting point is 00:36:46 And so she's like, well, if you're going to include me, then I'm, then I'm, then I'm, Then I'm coming. Let's go. So she's going to draw on other things? Stories not even related to Epstein? I think she'll come and embarrass him. Look, again, they held Hillary for 11 hours in a hearing one time. So I saw it all. Without a bathroom break.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Hillary can handle herself. Is that the Benghazi thing? What difference does it make? Hillary can handle herself. So I think that's what she's doing here. Watching the Melinda Gates thing, and I've seen it now a couple of times. I mean, when the question comes in, she takes a gulp of air. it looks like she threw up and swallowed it.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Okay. Whether that particular email is true or not, she looks into the camera and basically tells us stuff like that is true that she is aware of. It doesn't have to be that particular email. Maybe it is or isn't true that email, but stuff on that level she knows in her mind. Can you do me, Feverra?
Starting point is 00:37:42 Do run a poll and ask this question, who do you trust more? Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton. I'm actually curious to know what the audience is going to say. Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton, because in ties to Trump, and I'll come to you, this is back in 2015 at CPAC. Trump's being asked about Bill Clinton. I don't know if you remember this clip or not. He went hard on Bill Clinton with Epstein.
Starting point is 00:38:04 If you want to play this clip, Rob, go forward. Bill Clinton. Nice guy. Got a lot of problems coming up, in my opinion, with the famous island with Jeffrey Epstein. A lot of problems. Epstein in your remarks about in the Q&A. Well, I think he's got a problem. I mean, I'm hailing.
Starting point is 00:38:20 I don't know, but that island was really a cesspool. There's no question about it. You pause it right there. By the way, if you look at the president, he looks much better than he did here. So he's lost weight. Look at those cheeks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Good for him, right? Look at that. He looks better today. Too big accident. They did it in 2015. Adam, go ahead. Well, number one, we have to state the clear fact. Trump was talking about the cesspool island in 2015.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Before he was president. Whoa. So if you need a project manager, there you go. But let's give Trump a little credit. He was calling out Epstein before he even was president, before he was even running for president. When he was just initiating his campaign right after he came down the escalator. So everybody's accusing Trump of doing something wrong?
Starting point is 00:39:00 I don't think so. Number two, there's a big difference between someone like President Bill Clinton and Bill Gates. Bill Gates first. What the hell does Bill Gates need from Epstein? He doesn't need money. He doesn't need money. He doesn't need access. He doesn't need power. You're the richest man in the world or one of the richest men of the world. What are you going to Epstein for? Tax advice? So in my opinion, you're going to Epstein Island because you want to get away. He says he never went to Epstein. He said he never went to. Okay, but you're associating with Epstein for what? For access to maybe some fun. Okay, I don't know if you did or didn't go. Clinton is a little bit different. Do you need money? Do you need power? Do you need fundraising? Are you your next? You're next? You're
Starting point is 00:39:45 moves after you're leaving the White House? You're saying Bill needs Epstein more than Gates needs. There's more things that someone like Bill Clinton would need from Epstein. So what's your point? Than someone like Bill Gates. What's your point? That not all two people are the same. Why are you hanging out with this person?
Starting point is 00:40:01 It's like, why are you going to Diddy's house? One offers girls and fun, the other offers. Exactly. Why are you going to Diddy's house? You want to get some music? You want to become a new producer from? Or do you want to go to the baby oil party? There's a big difference. Listen, I think there's a lot in common with a lot of these people.
Starting point is 00:40:14 And look, this is part of some of the conspiracy that may turn out to be true, is that he was curating people of power, and it became, you know, it became leverage over these people. I mean, Elon is in the files, right? Like, if you look at who these people are, right, the rich and the powerful, how was Epstein able to curate all of those people, right? I mean, these are not insignificant folks, right? And it goes beyond even the big names.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Then there's another second level of gigantic people. Right? Very successful, very wealthy people around the world. And so, you know, people think that these were bribery things that were going on. You get a little leverage on these folks, right? And so, you know, that's part of what people want to find out. On Trump, I will tell you this, Trump is brilliant at a lot of things. One of the things he's brilliant of is he takes something that he knows he's got an issue and he puts it on other people. He takes his weakness. He takes his vulnerability and he puts it on other people.
Starting point is 00:41:14 I think Trump was getting ahead of the Epstein thing knowing, hey, I'm all over that thing, too. Ten years. I think the other side is much better at it than that. I think in that side for him to do that, you know how many times CNN has to apologize and say it's right? They did kick him off. He did kick out Epstein. Abby had to do it. Then I think a week ago, a guy on CNN came out and said a proven human traffic or whatever.
Starting point is 00:41:44 and he said it twice. He had Scott Jennings called him out. He had to come out and apologize. He was just on Pierce Morgan yesterday. Found 50 different ways to apologize because he knows if the president wanted to assume he can. If you're not afraid, if you're not afraid of what you've done, you'll sue.
Starting point is 00:42:01 And then you have to go through discovery. So if the guy is playing that much, I'm not telling he hasn't done it in his career, I think that's actually a playbook from the other side that happens a lot. He just came out. Can he imagine? What are you doing, bring it to girls out?
Starting point is 00:42:14 during the debate with Hillary Clinton. If you do that, you have to know the next day, they could bring 50 girls on you. Who was E. Jean Carroll this morning I was watching E. Jean Carroll's interview with Anderson Cooper, and he's like, you know, so what is rape to you? Rape is not physical. It's a fantasy.
Starting point is 00:42:34 And he's like, we're going to go to a break. You're, Anderson, you're fascinating. You're fascinating, right? All these dumb stories that they try to put on him. So I think that game, I believe Hillary is much better at it than Trump. And look at this year. Look at the score right here. People trust Bill Clinton.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Wow. They do not trust Hillary Clinton. 3,500 people, yeah, they do not trust. Regarding Epstein or overall? Well, that's what they're saying. What's the topic we're talking about? By the way, just to say one thing here to everybody that's watching this, I've been in the insurance business for 20-some years, okay?
Starting point is 00:43:06 Love the industry life-changing. If you're watching this and you want to insure yourself, do yourself a favor. and go buy the shirt allegedly. Because when you're going through moments like this, never has there been a more important time to walk around making sure everybody knows you lean on the ward allegedly because that's the biggest insurance policy you can have nowadays
Starting point is 00:43:32 as long as you use the word allegedly. So if you want to protect yourself, go to vtmerge.com, get yourself on allegedly shirt or a hat, walk around at work with your family, with your friends and just say, allegedly, this is what I heard. You will be protected, just like many others do, wearing the allegedly gear. And it is one the greatest conversation starters. No matter where you're at, people look at you, they smile and it goes into a conversation.
Starting point is 00:43:58 In a court of law, in a court of law, Jared, you would know this. If you're wearing that shirt and you're talking just out of your butt and you're saying crazy stuff, in court, he's like, hey, I heard. I didn't say that loud, but the shirt is saying it. Some people are saying. Some people are saying. Can I ask you a follow-up question? Because I feel like you're a good person to answer this.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Let's be completely logical and rational right now. Everyone wants to go, oh, he's Epstein, pedophile. Forget about that. Forget about the pedophilia. Forget about the girls. Let's just go completely logical and pragmatic. What do all these rich, famous, powerful people want or need from Epstein? Forget about the girls.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Forget about the partying. Let's go down the rabbit hole. Congressman, I'd love to get your... What do they need from this guy? Why is everyone trying to get involved with him? Because just as much as he's approaching them, hey, can I come? Can I what's going on?
Starting point is 00:44:42 So what do you think is actually happening going on? I'll let Jared answer. I mean, I think that's nobody knows, right? Because if we say, well, we all know what they wanted, that means they're all guilty. That means they're all guilty, right? Which I don't think we can say that, right? I don't think that's fair to say, like, they're all guilty.
Starting point is 00:44:59 But nobody knows. Now, look, in the realm of politics and business, people are always raising money, you got access to funds, you got access to this guy, it becomes a networking thing. But by the way, maybe someone should tell us, Maybe one of these people who were in there, right, who says, you know, I never went to the island. I was interested in girls.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Then why were you talking to him? Was he connecting you to somebody else? Was it a business deal? I mean, Elon's in there. That looks like that may have been, you know, some sort of dollars business deal. Tell us, Elon, why were you talking to Epstein? What was that about? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Right? If it wasn't about the girls. You made a great point. Yeah, I think it's, look, Trump's interview with Lex Friedman. when he says, how come more friends don't run for office? Well, most people don't know how to, more billionaires don't run for office. He says, you can make all the money. He says, there's a lot of billionaires that people don't know around the world.
Starting point is 00:45:49 There's a lot of billionaires that they walk past you and you just thought they were a regular person. They have $2.8 billion in the bank. No one knows. This is what Benny deals with every day. I hate it. It's like, oh, there are a lot of billionaires that are not cool. They just have money, truly. Is he still talking about you?
Starting point is 00:46:05 Right. They're not famous. They want fame. Now, flip it. There are a lot of famous broke people out there. That want money. It's like, listen, I got 6.8 billion followers, but dude, I got $28 grand on a bank. I'm broke.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Everything I make, I spend. I have to live this lavish lifestyle with the Evendor and the Patek and the Hubello and the RM and all this stuff to show. But dude, I'm broke. So what can you help me, right? And then you have guys that stuff that they do in their private lives outside of their marriage that, you know, they don't want somebody else to know. You want someone to allow you to have that access. some of these guys with who's a billionaire guy, guy that paid him $172 million.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Leon Black, allegedly. Again, shout out to allegedly. Right, 100 or something. So that is more, hey, what do I do with this situation, right? To everybody, it's different. But what does work, and it's a proven business model since day one, blackmail is a incredible, incredible business model, which, by the way, he knows. Who do you think are Epstein's number one customers?
Starting point is 00:47:11 In my opinion, Epstein's number one customers are governments, our intel agencies, all of those guys. And by the way, a part of it like where I'm at like, and I want to move to the next door, which is Kier Starmer, and then we can go into exiting this Epstein stuff because there's a lot of stuff going on there. Just what I tell you, Vinnie, you know, with kids, say you got four kids and all of all of them. of them screwed up, but they'll tell each other, listen, we're not going to tell dad, okay? We're not going to tell who did that. In my old office, Mario will remember this, a guy named Leo will remember this, Robert Tassio will remember this. One day, I'm in my office. I come out and a massive fight breaks out in the office. Something happens. And everybody I come outside, they see I'm outside. I'm looking at them. So what happened? Nothing. I said, what was that sound?
Starting point is 00:48:06 Nothing. What sound? What sound? What was that sound? We don't know what you're talking about. Vinny, they're looking at me as if like, nothing happened. Then one time there's an event in 07 in Orlando. We go to Orlando that night, these guys party until 5 o'clock in the morning. The next day the meeting starts at 8 a.m.
Starting point is 00:48:27 They all come in. And Vinny, they're looking at each other as if, like, I'm looking at him. Why is this guy yawning 10 minutes into the meeting? he can't stay up. And when Mario would have, if you started the meeting talking about finance and economy and market, Mario's knocked out within 30 seconds.
Starting point is 00:48:44 He just wants to talk about human nature. And I said, guys, what did you guys do last night? Nothing. We went to sleep early. We had a meeting. We went to sleep early. They never wanted to leak anything. Till today, I still don't fully know exactly what happened.
Starting point is 00:48:59 All I've heard is secondhand information. But if one of them leaks, then it's like, well, you brought the beer. Well, you brought this. Well, you brought that. Well, you told us you brought the driver. You took us to the club. You're about to be a bad.
Starting point is 00:49:10 So the point is, the moment one goes, everyone's going to go. And, you know, you ever watch Domino when the first one goes? And boom, 60 next domino's fall. And you see those big ones that happen? If one fully comes out openly, I'm guilty. But let me tell you what I'm about to do. Yeah. Hey, boom.
Starting point is 00:49:34 You know, boom. Boom, like almost the scent of a woman. What is the three boys' names? Yeah, well, out there, you too called everybody out on the crowd. Even Tupac coming out, they're calling everybody. Then he got killed, right, right after that. So I think that hasn't happened yet. We're talking about hit him up.
Starting point is 00:49:49 We're talking about this song, hit him up. I love that work. I think that's where we are. I think if one guy comes out, the flood gates going to open up. I think you're a million percent right. Let me give you a little, maybe pushback. If nobody's flipped yet, why would they flip? It's almost like we've been holding out for 10 years, 20 years.
Starting point is 00:50:08 If they're as good as my guys, if they're as good as my guys, they're never going to tell me what happened in Orlando. But I don't know. Who about the fears, PBD? I don't know if they're, because you know who you are. They're watching from all over the country. Allegedly. All right. Let's go to the next door here.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Kear Starmer, okay. UK Starmer admits he knew of relationship between Epstein and ex-embassadson. Rob, can you show the picture of this guy, Mandelson? that came out that everybody's like that is a i mean listen folks there's a lot of pictures that can come out and look we all have embarrassing pictures all of us do right but this was pretty bad all right this is not doing it justice did it's all the lighting yeah the lighting on this but he is in a he's wearing a shirt and just with his underwear and that's mandelson allegedly and keir stormer knows that he knew of this relationship by the way right after this came out did he resign i thought he
Starting point is 00:51:01 resigned. He stepped down or something, right? Yeah, he was removed. He was removed. Okay, Rob, is this it with him talking about it? Go for it. Local news is in decline across Canada, and this is bad news for all of us. With less local news, noise, rumors, and misinformation fill the void.
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Starting point is 00:51:52 Conditions apply. Can the point minister tell us, did the official security vetting he received mentioned Mandelson's, ongoing relationship with the paedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Prime Minister? Yes, it did. As a result, various questions were put to him.
Starting point is 00:52:15 I intend to disclose to this House all of the national security, prejudice to international relations on one side. I want to make sure this House sees the full documentation so it will see for itself extent to which, the extent to which time and time again, Mandelson completely misrepresented the extent of his relationship with Epstein and lied throughout the process, including in response to the due diligence. I think it is shocking what the Prime Minister has just said. How can he stand up there saying that he knew, but he just asked Peter Mandelson if the
Starting point is 00:53:00 security vetting was true or false. This is a man who had been sacked from cabinet twice already for unethical behavior. That is absolutely shocking. And that is why later today, my party will call on the government to release all documents relating to Mandelson's appointment. You can pause this. I can listen to this accent. I love, I was, have you ever gone? I went. I've never been in it. So this is called, it used to be called question hour with the prime Now it's called question time because it doesn't get. I've gone to this. They do it with such poise.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Like I remember the questioning and she's like, you know, just because you're the head of child services doesn't mean you should act like a child, you know. It's just so well done. Like listen to how they're talking about Epstein. You think he's going to step down? Well, I mean, if you're watching that, I think that went extraordinarily well for him. I mean, I mean, I don't know whether he steps down or not.
Starting point is 00:53:55 I mean, this looks like they're going to continue to. to pull that thread. I just love that. You nailed it. Like, think about it. When we say pedophile, it's like an indictment. They're like,
Starting point is 00:54:03 pedophile. It almost sounds like pita light. Like, it's like a drink. But I think, and you made a great point about the pot. Like, these are, we're talking about Kier-Starmer. And one of the things that you said
Starting point is 00:54:12 about the, um, the black male, he, Ihood Barack was on a call, calling him, asking him, think about this.
Starting point is 00:54:19 And the first thing that Jeffrey Epstein said is, who owes you, who owes you their life, who owes you favors? He was almost like a consultant because, he probably recorded everybody in those rooms where he had cameras. And that was such a, that was a, it's the blackmail and why everybody went there thinking,
Starting point is 00:54:35 Adam, I'm a president, I'm a prime minister, I can go to this island, nobody's ever going to know. They're not recording it. These emails are never going to come to light. Will he step down? Will he step down? I think so. I think with this, he's going to have to. Besides the invasion that he let happen in England, this is, this is it for him.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Tom. I think this is it. Well, I think most people in the U.S. don't realize. is what the position here and what it meant. So Peter Mendelsohn was known as a fixer and a spin doctor for Tony Blair. And under Tony Blair, he was known as a Prince of Darkness. Because I really thought that he had, you know, that he was the wrong guy to piss off, he was the wrong thing to do.
Starting point is 00:55:17 And he petitioned hard for the third most powerful position in British government. You know what that is? ambassador to the United States. That they say is the third most powerful position. Never mind the monarchy, they don't do anything. Somebody dies, say, bring a wreath. And Tony Blair, you have your prime minister and the laws of Britain and all that goes with it.
Starting point is 00:55:40 But Ambassador United States is huge. What also was in the Epstein files was what happened. Mendelssohn told Epstein about the $500 billion eurozone bond bailout. And Epstein supposedly, allegedly, traded on that in his accounts with all the foundation accounts. So you've got Starmers guy was leaking to Epstein. This is global bond markets that are, it's half a trillion dollars. And so you see that happening. And then you see the rest of the pictures and everything. And this was just a bad guy. And I happen to agree with the woman that was challenging Starmer in that all you did was ask okay you're you're not really into this are you
Starting point is 00:56:33 wouldn't you do pat if we hire a director of marketing we do a background check we call references right you're telling me all you did okay give me your word give me your word this Epstein rumor is not there so Starmor either did incomplete research or was lied to a up front, found out later, but then did nothing. And now when the box is open and everybody can look inside, Starmers coming out. But you have to remember, this is a big deal. He was ambassador to the United States. If you say he worked directly with Blair, on that call with Epstein, okay, when he was talking to Ehud Barak, Tony Blair's name came up. And he said, XYZ company pays him $2 million a year. What was the company that was it a telecommunication company
Starting point is 00:57:23 that paid him two million a year rob you remember that that they talked about he says xyz pays tony blair two or three million a year for a board seat so i don't know how deep if this guy knows anything about blair's connection with epstein if he worked that closely with them i mean this can go even deeper now tom than just you know with keir starmer stepping down it can go back to tony bler and tony blair wasn't he just assigned on the project on rebuilding of guys Gaza or something. Wasn't he given a job that had to do with Gaza? On the board of peace, right? The Board of Peace with Kushner, I believe.
Starting point is 00:58:01 And Whitkoff, if I'm not mistaken. Adam, where are you had with this? So with this situation with Kirstarmer? Yes. So let's get one thing clear. These lords in British politics mean nothing. Lord, you could do the most scandalous, ridiculous, sensationalist things ever.
Starting point is 00:58:20 People who are named the lords very rarely lose their title. So we saw Prince Andrew What happened with him? He was a prince Lord, what is he called? Lord Mendelsohn? Lord Farquah, there you go. Jeffrey Archer was Lord. Jeffrey Archer. This guy went to jail for perjury famously did not lose his lordship.
Starting point is 00:58:39 So who she is, are you familiar with who she is? She's basically the highest ranking, I want to say, member of the Conservative Party. So it would be the equivalent of like a black female conservative now running the Republican Party. So imagine if Candace Owens, pre-going off the Richter scale,
Starting point is 00:58:59 was the face of the new Republican establishment. So this is, if you know anything about the Tories and conservatives in the UK, this is the party of Churchill, they've done nothing but destroyed the U.K. That the, the longest-serving power players in UK history, the British people are like,
Starting point is 00:59:19 we are so done with you. We're going to elect this absolute, socialist, weirdo, Kirstarmer. And look where they are now with this. She's coming in and actually being like sensible and basically saying, listen, we're not standing for this. She's almost like reinventing the conservative party in the UK and God knows they need it.
Starting point is 00:59:38 By the way, that was like the easiest question and answer. I don't even think she thought it was going to be so easy. Please tell me, this wasn't, you know, you didn't know this. And he goes, I knew. She was like, oh. Oh, wow, that was easy. We didn't expect that to be so quick. Why do you think he did that, though?
Starting point is 00:59:54 Because if they said, by the end of the day, today, we're going to be requesting for all communication, she was going to find out that there's communication anyways. Who's been fired? I mean, he's got to, look, it's going to be him if he doesn't fire people who handled this for him. Right? I mean, so if he doesn't fire the team that handled this,
Starting point is 01:00:12 it's going to be him. He's also the opposite of Trump. He's not built for these moments, the bright lights. And he's like, oh, I confess. Where Trump would be like, you know me, I would never do something. like that. It was this guy over here. What a loser. He's just not built for the bright lights and he just basically admitted to hiring this guy.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Well, Trump would also go on the offense and would have looked at her and said, I don't like your smile. Terrible question. But in politics, you have to do this. So now they're talking about what does Cal she say? The odds are that he's going to step down at this point? Before September 1st. 60. 60%. So basically flip a coin, if not more. This guy's out over this scandal? Yes. He didn't do anything wrong.
Starting point is 01:00:53 He wasn't on the island. He knew. But he knew. So dominoes are going to fold. What happened to Penn State coach? Joe Pa? Yeah, what happened to him? Sandusky?
Starting point is 01:01:03 Yeah. Because he knew about when San Zanzzi was doing. Yeah. He knew. He knew. But he was on his way out anyway. He was like 90 years old. But I mean, this guy's in his first term.
Starting point is 01:01:12 I get that. I get that. By the way, Pat, this is yesterday. And look what happens at 4.40 p.m. When he answers the question. Boom. You see that green. You see that green line?
Starting point is 01:01:21 Yep. Yep. So where was it prior to yesterday, Tom? Low. Nothing. Super low. Irrelevant. It wasn't even a topic of discussion.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Wow. That he's going to be stepping down. So just how quickly markets can change. Yeah, well, let's talk about markets. You're talking about markets. Let me explain to what happened yesterday. Bitcoin. Rob, where's Bitcoin at right now?
Starting point is 01:01:39 Bitcoin crashes to around 60,000 as historic free fall worsens. 68,000. It's back up a little bit. Prices down over 50% over four months. this week equities yesterday equities nearly $600 billion lost in equities because of AI. I think crypto this week lost $500, $600 billion, $2 trillion since the high in October. Tom, what's going on over here? So what has happened is, remember crypto?
Starting point is 01:02:10 Well, guess what? It's going to be a hedge against inflation. It's going to be an alternative to fiat. It's going to go this way when the markets go that way. And now here we have the big test. We've got layoffs. We've got gold. We've got the U.S. dollar weakening. We've got a case-shaped economy where the consumer is increasingly under stress, credit card debt at the highest of all time, almost $1.3 trillion right now. Whereas Wall Street with PE, especially in tech, has been doing okay. And so we're all waiting for the shoe to drop. The shoe to drop is the market and some economic things and some layoffs and everything. And all of a sudden, Bitcoin goes with it. Bitcoin was supposed to be different. And so right now we're trying to figure out, Pat.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Remember what everybody said, just don't worry about it. Get a little bit of Bitcoin. It's an inflation hedge. It's an inflation hedge. That was one of the core selling points. Well, now when things go sideways, wait a minute. This is two years of increases have gone down. This morning it said, if I'm correct, October 24, it was 66.
Starting point is 01:03:13 It's gone on a run, so it's return and it's given back two years of gain. Five-year, Max, right? Go to five-year if you could. Okay, and then go to Max? Yeah, there you go. You see where it is there? And I'll go back over 20-24. That's right.
Starting point is 01:03:29 All of that, a little more, a little more, October, 24. Up, up, up, up, up. Up. 20-4. Oh, sorry. There you go. There we are. Right there.
Starting point is 01:03:42 So that everything since October 24 is gone. And so all this, it's like, we're finding out, well, the real Bitcoin please stand up? Are you an inflation hedge that's going to be stable over time? Are you alternative to fiat? Are you just another speculation stock that is going to react to the market, react to gold, react to inflation? And right now it looks like it's reacting to that. Now, there's a lot of Bitcoin people are going to say, this is temporary, Tom, you don't know what you're talking about. But rather than being stable and do the things that they said it's going to do, that all the proponents were together and saying,
Starting point is 01:04:20 you know, it's difficult. It's like, okay, the people have put their trust in it. Well, let me ask you this. In the last week, have you bought any crypto? No. You haven't bought any. Okay, so you haven't taken advantage of the discount that's going on right now. Before the sun sets today, I'm going to.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Okay, got it. So I just bought a bunch of XRP and Bitcoin yesterday. And I bought a bunch when it dropped to, whatever the number was in the 80s, you know, high 70s, 80s. And to me, the part about dollar cost averaging is it's so easy to teach, but it's so hard to execute. Yeah, your emotions betray you on dark days. It's so hard to execute.
Starting point is 01:05:06 We can get in front of a board and teach our 13-year-old son. Son, let me tell you how dollar cost averaging works. If you invest $100 and the stock is $10, you get 10 shares. it goes to 15, you get six shares, but if it drops to five and you're scared and you buy, you get 20 shares. And the average between the three becomes $13. And so now you're that,
Starting point is 01:05:27 but then when it happens to you're like, oh, I don't know if I'm on a dollar cost average, boom, you missed that, it went back to 92. You could have bought it at 62. You could have bought it at 65. So here's a part about... Would they say the scared man becomes a day trader? Yes, it does.
Starting point is 01:05:40 And by the way, what I'm, you know, I say this, you know, the long-term thinkers win, short-term thinkers get destroyed, long-term thinkers are able to go through the emotional difficulties of investments, something goes up, something goes down, long-term, everything ends up working out for the long-term thinker. But this is really scaring the crap of a lot of people. This is scaring the crap out of a lot of people. Jared, where are you with this? Well, I mean, look, I think, you know, the American people on a whole, right, are not invested in Bitcoin and crypto. To your point, this was supposed
Starting point is 01:06:16 to be detached from everything else. It was supposed to be the hedge. That's what we constantly heard. But there's a lot of establishment investment now in here. There's a lot of regular big Wall Street that came into there. I still don't understand the Michael Saylor thing. I mean, I follow, you know, micro strategies. Seven, eight hundred thousand now. Okay. And I don't understand, you know, how that whole thing works. But so far, I mean, you know, his stock, I think, is higher than Bitcoin. And he owns Bitcoin. So I don't understand how the company could, you know, the value, the company is doing better than Bitcoin is doing when the thing you own is being devalued. And so you talk to a lot of people who talk about these downward trends that happen in Bitcoin, that there's a cycle that happens.
Starting point is 01:07:07 They talk about these cycles. And so far it's following the cycle, but it did go lower than the 60,000 threshold. They said if it hits 60,000, you know, that should be the end of the cycle. Now, it's up again. So let's see. Let's see now if it could. There's a whole different school of thought that they say it could hit as low as $26,000 to match the drops it's had over the years. And then from 26, it's going to go to $250,500.
Starting point is 01:07:35 It's kind of what they're talking about. By the way, the margin calls that are going to happen at $26,000? Oh, my Lord. You're right. Yeah, that's, by the way, have you ever had a margin call? I don't have enough money to do that. Yeah, I had a margin call. But I was 25 years old when I got a margin call when I had no money.
Starting point is 01:07:50 And I put, I don't know what it was, $5,000, whatever, to buy some Nike stocks. And then I said, you know, each rate came out and they said, you know, you can use this to get X, Y, Z and $15,000. And I'm like, no way. Vinny, I did it. Let me tell you, when it dropped, I don't know, it was a handful of stocks I own, they're calling. They're calling you. And I'm like, how to hell am I going to pay this? You act like you have 15,000, but you only have 5,000.
Starting point is 01:08:21 So it's allowing you to use credit, which is wonderful. Yeah. Because you're doubling and tripling without your money. It's like you're using credit card money margin call. But when you get, you ever seen a movie margin call? Yeah, of course. Have you seen a movie? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Kevin Spacey. At the very end, my dog died. What a movie. Great movie. By the way, that anxiety and that movie. that's how it feels. Oh, man. And this, he's right.
Starting point is 01:08:45 If it's 26,000, it's going to be some interesting people. You're already seeing some, I mean, there's already margin calling happening. And so what's happening is other people are having to liquidate other assets, right, so that they have capital to pay the margin. So if this does continue to tank, it's going to bring down other stocks with it as people liquidate out of those.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Well, if you actually are a long-term investor, this is a good day for you because you can go buy some stuff. I've learned over the years that what a, what goes up must come down. So you know who knows what's going on in the market tomorrow? Absolutely nobody. If Michael Saylor doesn't know what's going on with Bitcoin, believe me, your Uber driver has no clue.
Starting point is 01:09:25 The guy that's like, bro, I just invested in the XRP. There is somebody that knows what's going on in the market. Who's that? Nancy Pelosi. Maybe he sold PayPal. She sold, wait a minute. Did you not see the story? What did she do now?
Starting point is 01:09:36 Did you see the story? Nancy Pelosi sold PayPal way before PayPal was going down. She knew something. How would she know that? Can you tell? Am I reading the story incorrect? No, no, no. Why do I feel like I read the story?
Starting point is 01:09:49 Two weeks. Two weeks before it announces. Zoom in a little bit, right? My eyes. Yes, based on financial disclosure, and gentlemen, Donald's Nancy Pelosi reported a sale of PayPal holdings took place December 30 of Pelosi. So 5,000 shares of PayPal, the transaction valued,
Starting point is 01:10:05 $250 to $500,000. The sale occurred just before sharp decline of 27% by selling in late December of the Trump. transaction allowed the Pelosi's household to avoid a potential loss of over $90,000. She has the eight ball. Well, that's what I'm saying. So, unless if your name is not Nancy Pelosi and you don't have access to autopilot, where autopilot allows you to match the exact investments that Nancy Pelosi, I don't know if
Starting point is 01:10:32 you've ever though, auto pilot or not. I've seen it on you. You can follow it. And by the way, I'm a millionaire now. Autopilot. He kind of money. Autopilot runs ads on Tom. I don't know if you've seen this or not.
Starting point is 01:10:43 They did. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. So Adam, to correct you, please give credit to Nancy Pelosi. Nobody knows what's going to happen in the market. Here's that I tell people, Pat, I think we're on the same periods with long-term thinking. If you want safe and security, think of it like a theme perk. You want to be safe. Go on the merry ground, buddy.
Starting point is 01:11:02 You want investing? You want risk and reward? Go on the roller coaster. Now, the only time you're going to die, if you go on the roller coaster, you've tried to jump off the ride in the middle of the road. of the ride. So I bought Bitcoin, I think, at 20 many years ago. People are telling me, oh, dude, it's going to go to 100. Then I bought it at 40 again. I'm just looking at it on sale right now. I ask, oh, you know, Adri and all my friends are on the Bitcoin says, six months ago, I go,
Starting point is 01:11:26 you see this an all-time high? I go, what's the lowest we're ever going to see again? 80,000, bro. I swear. I go, 80,000, maybe 78. I text him today. Buddy, we're at 60. You don't know nothing. Like, I make, you know, you like, you know, you like, you know, like we bust each other's balls. Yo, you're an idiot. All my Bitcoin friends, you don't know anything. Oh, it's the Bitcoin having, you understand there's only 21 million. Dude, you don't know anything.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Nobody knows anything. If you're a long-term thinker, long-term investor, or a hodler, what are they called, hold on for dear life versus a long-term holder, that this is a great thing for you. Dollar-cost average and buy. If you're scared, if you're these people like the X-RP, how many people did you talk to are like, yeah, I don't know any crypto, I don't know any assets, but I'm an XRP guy. Do you even know what they do? Do you have that video of what our friend Max did, Pat? Tell me if you saw this video yet regarding XRP and all the people who are
Starting point is 01:12:21 Ripple people. I don't know if, uh, here you go, Rob. What are you talking about? I really wish Rob had this pulled up. I sent it to him about 10 minutes ago, but. Rob, it's in a text, but thanks, buddy. You thumbed it up and everything. Rob, don't let him talk to you like that. Yeah, seriously, Rob. Don't sum it up, Rob. You know what? So here. So here. Can I tee this up? Here are XRP holders and ripple holders right now. Boarding for flight 246 to Toronto is delayed 50 minutes. Ugh, what? Sounds like Ojo time.
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Starting point is 01:13:54 There's all these people invested in XRP because they thought that they were going to get rich. And what's the famous thing by the rumors sell the news? When your Uber driver is giving you advice on XRP, get out. You keep bringing up the Uber driver. I take a lot of Uber. Well, do you talk to them about finance? No, they barely speak English. But that's my point.
Starting point is 01:14:19 that they barely speak English and they're recommending ripple. But by way, if you look at Bitcoin, right, talking about the long-term investor, okay, if you didn't take any money off the table, you're back where you started if you got in in the last year, right? So, you know, when Biden, when Trump got elected, that's when the huge run-up happened. It started happening in 24, not in 25. He gets elected. The huge run-up happens. So if you owned it at 60,000, 65,000, if you bought it right before the election, and you didn't take any money off the table, you're right back where you started. So, you know, this idea that, oh, I'm in it for the long haul, well, if it's a roller coaster, then you got to take money
Starting point is 01:14:59 out before the drop happens if that's going to be a consistent thing with it. Yeah. And it seems to be that there is a pattern with it. It doesn't react. Like everybody thought it was going to react to the way that gold reacts. They don't react the same way. And this year was a confusing thing because gold went up. What is the price of gold right now, Rob? If we look it up. Do we need to text it to you, Rob? 49.83. By the way, Rob, can you do me favor, Rob, can you do me favor, Rob? Can you do me, if ever, Rob, pull up your Menecto. Do you have it or no? I do not. Okay, guys, pull up your Menecto, pull up your Menect, so people see your handle.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Folks, if you don't appreciate Rob G getting bullied by Adam the way that he is, can you go send him a Menect right now? Rob, put the link below in the chat. Rob, that's the photo. By the way, that's a good photo of him. By the way, if we remove the name and said that photo was in a file, if we looked at it, it's called just saying. It's called fits the profile. Like, Rob, like, if I was literally looking for a babysitter
Starting point is 01:15:59 and I was going through, I would. I'm fine. Don't let him do this to you. I would send that photo in. Listen, nobody's immune from the ball boss. Let's talk about Iran. Let's talk about Iran. Okay.
Starting point is 01:16:10 That's Rob. Trump says Iran's Ayatollah should be very worried. Okay, let's see. Page 25, Rob. I do think you have a clip on this one, and I think there's a tweet as well from the White House yesterday. President Trump warned that Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini should be very worried during an interview on Friday, on Wednesday
Starting point is 01:16:32 amid rising tensions between Washington and Tehran. Here's the president. Does the Supreme Leader in Iran be worried right now? I would say he should be very worried, yeah. He should be. As you know, they're negotiating with us. I know they are, but the protesters have said, you know, where are the Americans?
Starting point is 01:16:48 You promised them we would have their back. Do we still have their back? Well, we've had their back. And look, that country's a mess right now because of us. We went in, we wiped out their nuclear. So that's a question. If we wanted them out. You know, we have peace in the Middle East.
Starting point is 01:17:01 If I didn't take out their nuclear, think of it. If we didn't take out that nuclear, we wouldn't have peace in the Middle East because the Arab countries could have never done that. They were very, very afraid of Iran. Yeah, yeah. They're not afraid of Iran anymore. We wiped out those beautiful beet, Bombers, one's right over there.
Starting point is 01:17:19 Those beautiful little model, those beautiful B-2 bombers went in and they hit their target every single bomb and obliterated it. And because of that, they were going to have a nuclear weapon within one month. Within one month, they were going to have a nuclear weapon.
Starting point is 01:17:35 That was a big threat. They're not going to have it anymore. But if we obliterated, what's the deal about? I mean, if there's no more, are they trying to restart the nuclear program? Well, I heard that they are, and if they do, and I let them know, They do. We're going to send them right back and do their job again. So you're understanding that they tried to restart it, and that's why you're threatening force.
Starting point is 01:17:53 They tried to go back to the site. They weren't even able to get near it. There was total obliteration. But they were thinking about starting a new site in a different part of the country. We found out about it. I said, you do that. We're going to do very bad things to you. Yeah, Rob, do you have the tweet as well, where they're saying to stay away from Iran, if you're American, leave an early, February, 2026, the U.S. Virtual Embassy in Iran issued a warning repeating that Americans should leave Iran now, if possible. Have a plan for departing Iran that does not rely on U.S. government help. Flight cancellations and disruptions are possible with little warning. Check directly with the airline for updates. If you cannot leave, find a secure location
Starting point is 01:18:38 with your residence or another safe building, have a supply of food, water, medications, and other essential items. It just came out yesterday. Avoid demonstrations. Keep a low profile and stay way aware of your surroundings. Monitor local media for breaking news. Be prepared to adjust your plans. Keep your phone charged and maintain communication with family and friends to inform them of your status. This is not a regular warning, folks, that's being given to people. Jared, what's your thought?
Starting point is 01:19:04 I like the avoid demonstration part. Well, I mean, you know, let me say a couple of things on Iran because I'm pretty hawkish. You know, I supported the president launching the B-2 bombers after Israel had taken out the air capabilities, the air defenses that Iran had, and going out and taking out those facilities. I think that was the right decision. We've been talking about it for years. Obama talked about Iran having a nuclear weapon. Clinton talked about Iran having a George W. Bush talked about it. And you know what they all agreed? Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. So for 20 years, we've agreed that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Trump was the first one to do something
Starting point is 01:19:38 about it and launch the attack. I supported that. I do think now is not the time to back out, right? We told the Iranian people we were coming to help. Now, I'm not for boots on the ground that I don't think will be successful. But this idea that we can enter another JCPOA with them, no, no, no, I was against the first JCPOA. And if we're going to be consistent, it can't be like, oh, we were against it when Obama did it. But when Trump does it, we're going to be for it. This can't just be about nuclear weapons. It has to be about how do we help the Iranian people go forward.
Starting point is 01:20:10 Now, you know more about this than anybody, okay? This isn't just like what happened in Venezuela, where if you just, take out the Supreme Leader, like everything else will be fine. No, there's a whole list of people that come after that. So this is a lot more complicated. Now, the Iranians only want to talk about nuclear. That's their negotiating team. I said, we're not talking about ballistic missiles. We're not talking about, you know, the people in their rights. Now, look, if we can, through a deal, right, get some of those things, I'm very interested. But if the deal is only on nuclear weapons, then it's JCPOA all over again.
Starting point is 01:20:45 And you know what? If I'm the Supreme Iatole, you know what my goal is, even though he's an old man. My goal is I just got to survive three years. I just got to get past Trump. I'll get him into a deal. I'll get past Trump because the next guy,
Starting point is 01:20:58 the next guy ain't going to do this. And Trump can't fall for it. Now, he's got people around him. I think Marco is leading him in the right direction. Vance sometimes concerns me because he's an isolationist. But Trump's got to recognize it's him, or nobody. I mean, that's where we're at when it comes to Iran. Like Trump, don't like Trump, they look at Trump as crazy as they are. Okay. And that works in that area of the region.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Jared, I think I agree with you on us intervening. I saw videos yesterday. I couldn't even send them to Rob because of how bad people talk about protesters and stuff like that. They are, IRGC, is driving through crowds and I saw people getting completely run over. I saw those. You know what I'm talking about. So I can't send it to Rob. Two things. I think, well, first of all, I don't think Trump, and we know how he plays this chess. He's not going to divulge our plans of attacking or not to some reporter
Starting point is 01:21:52 that the network absolutely despises him. I want to ask you a question, Jared, do you think, because I remember when everything was getting ramped up and looked like we were going to go, and then Trump made a comment about Rezal Palavi, the prince of the king's son. Do you think, Jared, some of this is not stalled, but kind of slowed down because Trump doesn't have confidence
Starting point is 01:22:10 that Rezah could take the lead? Jared, at the end of the day, if we go on there and we do a strategic strike, which I think we could take out everybody. The fact that this guy's hiding, we know exactly where he is right now, all day, all the time. You think we're kind of holding back because they don't have a leader because somebody's going to have to step up. No, I actually think if you look at what happened in Venezuela, right, which from a military standpoint, whether you, you know, I argue that, you know, the president doesn't have that ability to do that without coming to Congress, although, yes, it's happened in previous presidencies. But if you look at the strike itself, it was 100% successful, right? In and out, no boots on the ground, no lives lost, accomplished the mission. I think that they recognize if they're going to do something, it has to be flawless.
Starting point is 01:22:51 They didn't have the assets in the region. So they've been moving more and more and more assets in the region. By the way, we heard from Venezuela. They were practicing and practicing, right? All of that stuff is going on now. They're planning for all sorts of contingencies. But look, you know, what comes next? Let's say the regime falls.
Starting point is 01:23:09 What comes next? Nobody knows. The idea that we're going to install somebody, I don't think that's going to be accepted, but that's going to be up to the Iranian people. I will say one thing, right? We have heard a lot about, you know, other countries and about, you know, war crimes and, you know, this and that, and their leaders, they've killed tens of thousands of people here in these protests. And we may never know how many.
Starting point is 01:23:34 We may never know the real number. And but because it's not being fed to people every single day on TikTok and on a lot, platforms like other conflicts. The American people really don't know what's going on there. So, want me to go? Go ahead. So there's a genocide going on in Iran right now. Straight up. Their regime is killing tens of thousands of their own people, allegedly. So where are the protests? Where's the Gaza crowd? Where's the social justice warriors? Why are you guys all so silent. Not one word. Not one encampment. Not one sign. You know, when ice kills somebody, there's a protest with signs in minutes. Not one sign. Social justice warriors on the left. Nothing.
Starting point is 01:24:25 There's no gays for Iran? No, there's no gays for Iran. I didn't see that. The Grammys, you're not, you're going to say, no one's illegal on stolen land. You're not going to say one thing, but the tens of thousands of people that are killed in a week in Iran, really. This is what we're doing. So when people look at your movement and go, a bunch of hypocrites, nothing, they just hate Israel. Because when the Iranian people kill people in their,
Starting point is 01:24:51 the regime kills people, their own people, you judge a regime what they do to their own people, they're murdering their own people, and you mother suckers are silent. Your silence is what people are noticing. I'm sorry. So I don't know what USA is going to do. But I don't know what the people of Iran going to do, because here's the one question.
Starting point is 01:25:13 How many more dead Iranian bodies are we going to need before the world goes, all right, guys, it's too much. Because they said genocide in Israel and Gaza literally three days after when they... No, no, no, no, the next day. The next day. Next day. But I hear zero genocide. So forgive me if we no longer care what the gays for Gaza crowd or the free Palestine crowd has to say, if you're going to stay silent on what they're doing in Iran, it's absolutely disgusting.
Starting point is 01:25:42 Tom. It's been said. You and you and Jared said it. I've got, I don't have anything to add. Yeah, if you look at this here, U.S. Iran nuclear deal. Rob, is this the one? What does it say? Right now it's at 74%.
Starting point is 01:25:58 Before August, 74% they're going to get a deal. Oof. And that just jumped. I mean, that jumped in hours. That's 24 hours. If you look at the amount of months. the volume on it is $81,000. Rob, can you go to the other one with Chaminet?
Starting point is 01:26:13 Look at this one here. Ali Chalini as a out as a Supreme Leader. Look at the amount of money they've placed on this one here. Look at the volume. $16.75 million, Vinnie. $16.75 million saying he'll be out by September 1st. I think right now this is... By the way, if he just dies of natural causes, do you win?
Starting point is 01:26:36 I think so. That's a very good question. Or is the prediction that still counts? He's still out. He's out. He's out. You know what's interesting about this? He's going to go up to heaven and have his 72. I don't think about, I don't think about. What's very interesting about this, Kalshi, Pat?
Starting point is 01:26:50 What's that? Is they say he's out. 100% say he's out. 21% says it'll be before April 1st. 32% says it'll be before July 1st. So now that's 53, 54. Then 37% it'll be September 1st. So that's 84.
Starting point is 01:27:08 93, 94.1. So 94% is saying he's going to be out. You see what I'm saying? They all say he's out. It's just when. That's our Tom Kornacki on the ones and twos right there. He knows what's going on. He got the point one wrong, but for the rest of it, he did right.
Starting point is 01:27:20 So if you do the math, Tom, the point one would be point seven. But I'm not going to correct. Every time, it's a decimal. He always forgets the decimals guy. Look, he's turning red. I didn't want to carry the one. And the one that's going to be missing is Kameni. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:36 But going back to it. Save, Tom. Going back to it, I think what is going on right now is the Iranian people are truly waiting for Trump to get this done. And if he doesn't do it, there isn't anybody else that can get it done for them. And it could be another 20 years. Oh, man. If 20 years.
Starting point is 01:27:57 You're assuming. I don't want foreign influence though, Pat. Another 20 years before anything else takes place where they'll have an opportunity of a guy like this capable of doing it. But the part that they have to understand with him, when I sat with him and we did the podcast, he specifically said, I said, will you intervene? Will you drive pressure to Iran? Will you? It says, I don't know. All we have to, we have to stay fluid. Every strategy is going to be different with everything we do. He says, but Patrick, we already have so many problems in America right now that we have to fix. We have so many problems. So that's not good for Iranians because that's not what Iranians want to hear. Of course. That is, that is, you know, a message where, you know, you're seeing the downroad doctrine like this. But I also, you know, the part that the part that doesn't change for me with this is, you know, he is so unpredictable. You have no idea what's going on at all.
Starting point is 01:28:48 The moment he thinks that you think he's going to attack here, he doesn't attack. And then he attacks, the moment you think he's not going to be attacking and then he attacks. That's his way. That's just been his motto so far. So we'll see what to take place. But the reality of it going back to it, I don't know if there is anybody as a replacement right now. Like you said earlier, allowed the people to select who they want and who they want their leader to be. We have no idea what's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:29:13 I do think if it doesn't get done, I think a lot of criticism will go, maybe not by the RP community, because the RP can never do anything wrong in their eyes at all. He can never do anything wrong in their eyes. That's perfect. I think in their eyes, he's there. their son. In their eyes, he can't do anything wrong. But if this doesn't get done, I put a lot of the onus on him. And I said it from the beginning because he's never had this close of a shot to get this thing done. And again, every time I say this, people get upset, but that's my position that
Starting point is 01:29:45 hasn't changed. Pat, one follow up on this, if you don't mind. Tell me. It seems like the people everyone have the most hope they've had maybe in 47 years. If there was, you know, like there's the fear, greed index when it comes to the economy and markets. Yeah. Where is, the, you know, the Iranian people on the hope despair index lower than four weeks ago lower than two weeks it's been declining it's probably the lowest in the last four weeks well we said we said help was on the way I mean we didn't say it the president said help is on the way right I mean let's just be clear if Obama said help was on the way and then no help came let's expect okay right no but like everyone would have called them out like they did when they said when we said this is a red line in
Starting point is 01:30:28 Syria and then it wasn't a red line. Trump said help is on the way. If help doesn't come, the president recognizes something, I think, in his life, right? You know, I think he realizes, you know, he's got three years left. His presidency. He's an older. He's an older guy. You know, like, this is a, he's trying to put his stamp on things. Okay. If he backs away from this, that will be part of his legacy versus the opposite, which is, this is not just about the Iranian people. He can fundamentally change the entire region immediately. The world. Yeah, the world. But you made a good question. China would suffer. Russia would suffer. That's right. Venezuela. But you have to realize, Turkey's calling him saying don't do anything.
Starting point is 01:31:16 Yeah, guitarists are calling him. Katars call them saying don't do anything. These are people that are very, very important players in the Middle East. I don't even think Saudi wants him to do anything. So if he's getting those calls and those are good partners and they don't want him to do anything and he's getting that close, question becomes who's going to convince him to do something? Not going to be China, not going to be Russia, not going to be Modi. Who's going to be just Israel? Is Israel going to be the only one that's going to say, do it? Well, don't believe what you read publicly.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Right? So the Saudis are never going to come out and say, please do this. They're going to come out and say, we're against it. You can't use our airspace. We're not going to help. privately conversations are different. So like sometimes you see, you see like, oh, Mr. President, please don't do this. When is it happening? When's it going to happen? Right. And especially with the first, when we, when we did those B2 bombers, Saudi was also saying, please don't do it. We use, we use their airspace.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Okay. So what do you think they're saying in private then? Is in public, no, I think the UAE said can't use our airspace. I think this is the most important thing to MBS is to have it. I think what, what I guess, from what Saudi Arabia wants to accomplish is, I think they recognize for the Middle East to emerge as an major economic region, which it has the potential to do. This is a necessary piece. You're never going to be able to become what you want to become. What's the hold up?
Starting point is 01:32:42 What do you think, personally, when we went into Venezuela, we took on Maduro. By the way, we set the plan that you talked about, Jared. We went to the number two and number three and say, hey, listen, you guys were all going to get wiped out. follow in line, do what we're going to say, and they're kind of holding it together. Because think about it, the military still has to be in charge,
Starting point is 01:32:59 the government still has to run. And with Khomeini, who's going to be the number two guy? Another crazy person that's going to, there's no negotiating with that sense. So I'm saying, that's why I think, Jared, we didn't go,
Starting point is 01:33:09 he kind of is holding back, because if you take out Khomeini, which, by the way, they can take him out like that, who's number two? Another crazy anti-American, death to America, death to everybody.
Starting point is 01:33:20 I think they went a little bit too far, but I don't think Trump's not going to do it. But the Israeli showed you could take out multiple people at a time, right? And so, listen, it takes a while to put those things in the motion. I think he'll do it. So I'm good with pause, right, and time, but I'm not good with never. I think he'll do it. I think he's going to do it.
Starting point is 01:33:39 But on the hope to spare chart, if you want to have like a tough versus fake tough chart, Iran is fully on the fake tough chart. For years, death to America, like Maduro, come and get me. Oh yeah, we'll come and get you. The death to America chance. The death to Israel, the death to England, the death to the West. And you can't, you've never been in, you've never want to fight. All you do is fund proxies.
Starting point is 01:34:06 Your triple-H crew with Hamas, Asbola, the Houthis, you're funding Islamic jihad. You haven't won a fight since the 80s. Trump is unprovictable. So you're 40 years of not winning anything. And you're still talking tough, Ayatollah. I think at any point, if they want to take them out, they could. The people that would. suffer the most, which clearly Ayatollahs and the Mullahs don't care, are the Iranian people.
Starting point is 01:34:28 What? The number one question is, how many Iranian lives have to die before this regime falls? Because tens of thousands didn't move the needle one bit. Well, guess what? The fact that they just told all the people there, the embassy and everything like that, watch Trump. The best time for him to do it would be halftime during Bad Bunny's performance, just to make everybody look away from that thing.
Starting point is 01:34:48 Are you reading the cables? Are you reading the international cables? Getting back to Pat's question, take a look at history. We moved Maduro out when we knew that whether it's CIA or it's other things or knowing who's behind him, that there's going to be some relative stability and something progressing behind it. When we went and got Noriega and plucked him out of Panama, there was something that was relatively stable. We at least knew what was going to come up behind it. Neither of those destabilized.
Starting point is 01:35:16 Now you go take a look at right now. We have history twice, twice. We armed the Mujahjadine and got the Russians out of Afghanistan, but there was no leadership to flow in, and it became even more crazy than it was before the Russians were there. Then what you saw what happened to Saddam Hussein, and there was no backup plan, and it went nuts in Iraq. So I believe America is waiting until they can invoke and kind of control who and what comes up there. Because if you just take them out, history shows you in that size. of the Middle East, what flows in can be far worse and more uncontrollable. And we're not talking about the oil, right?
Starting point is 01:35:58 So the problem also is that if you take out a couple of people, right, and all of a sudden there's just mass chaos and they stop producing as a result, you know, oil prices are going to spike. And so he's hearing that as well. But, you know, listen, again, I think the president has to realize that it's him or nobody. He's got a period of time to do it. If he doesn't do it, then the Iranian people, this is their future. I don't think it's going to get worse than this.
Starting point is 01:36:28 I'm moving on. Chinese linked biolab discovered in Las Vegas home. Adam will go 50 times if we don't stop them. That's something that's important. Chinese linked biolab discovered in Las Vegas home sparks federal investigation with SWAT response. Rob, if you have a clip on this, go for it. Our 8 News now investigators breaking yet more news about that bio lab that was rated over the weekend. Documents we obtained reveal several people got sick from it.
Starting point is 01:36:54 8 News Now investigator David Charnes breaking that story. And David, what are you learning about it tonight? Well, these new documents say several people became sick from that suspected lab inside a house that police and the FBI are labeling as an Airbnb or a short-term rental. Metro showing this video of the inside of that lab inside that Northeast Valley's home garage. We've learned a person tipped off the FBI in early January that that garage was locked and that there were fridges running inside. A person telling those investigators that it smelled like a hospital with a, quote, fowl, stale, stagnant air smell.
Starting point is 01:37:30 Now, documents say several days after entering that garage, two people became, quote, deathly ill. They said they couldn't get out of bed, and several other people had gotten sick there before. Also learning items from this lab removed from a different location here in the valley, possibly from several years ago, when that location failed to get a state license. Now, as we first reported over the weekend, this lab is connected to a lab. The feds actually rated three years ago in 2023. That location there in Reedly, California, outside Fresno. Inside, officials found similar equipment and pathogens like HIV and malaria. Court documents in that case mentioned Las Vegas and possible warehouses here.
Starting point is 01:38:12 And today, I asked the city manager for that community about her reaction to this latest lab. What was your reaction when you saw over the weekend that all these same people were involved in yet another potential biolab, but this time in Las Vegas? I will say that I was not surprised. You can pause it right there. Vinny thoughts. So, Congressman, this is a question that's going to come to you after I talk about, I don't know how this isn't one of the biggest stories. Me and you talked about this yesterday. So we just found this out. In June, the DOJ arrested two Chinese nationals in Detroit.
Starting point is 01:38:48 for smuggling fungus that was going to be an agricultural terrorist weapon. During the Biden administration, China bought land, congressmen all over the United States, including next to military bases. They flew spy balloons at will. Nobody stopped them. Nobody said anything. Gavin Newsom rolled out the red carpet for Xi Jinping. All the homeless people disappeared.
Starting point is 01:39:07 Maybe they should have him visit more often. It'll save the taxpayers billions. And then China, let's go back, right? Tom, Xi Jinping's here. Clean up the homeless people. China, in my opinion, my, Vincent O'Shawn's opinion. unleashed COVID on the world, never been held accountable. And anyone that even opened their mouth and said China virus,
Starting point is 01:39:24 we're all considered racist. So my simple is, my question is very simple, Congressman. At what point are we going to start treating China like the enemy that they are instead of saying that they're the adversary and continue to put Americans at risk? This is one lab that we found. Who knows what else is here? Because the border was wide open. The amount of Chinese nationals that crossed over were absolutely insane.
Starting point is 01:39:46 I'm just curious to what your take is on that. Well, I mean, first of all, based on this, I need to go home and clean up my garage fridge. I mean, there's some stuff in there that's old that definitely is a biohazard. So the guy, by way, there's a guy, the guy in jail for the first lab. This is also his lab. This is his. And we got him the first time. This is China.
Starting point is 01:40:07 Yes. This is directly linked to the CCP. To have this stuff here just in case. Okay. There's just no doubt about it. First of all, remember, I did the COVID response. for the entire state of Florida. I didn't see my family for four months.
Starting point is 01:40:22 I was quarantined with my whole team in the EOC. We lost a lot of doctors, a lot of nurses in those hospitals. I was doing all sorts of PPE, testing vaccines, the whole deal. That virus came out of a lab. There's no doubt about it. The idea that it's like, okay, there's this lab that is called the coronavirus Wuhan lab, but it didn't come out of there. It came out right across the street from the lab market.
Starting point is 01:40:46 From the wet market. I mean, come on. So it came out of the lab. Now, whether it was an accidental leak, okay, or it was an intentional leak, that I don't know. Whether China allowed it to leave so that everyone got it, not just them. I mean, they let people leave China. Of course. They didn't lock down.
Starting point is 01:41:00 They could have done that. This is absolutely China. China is our number one foe. Yes. We have to also understand and deal with the fact that they are a major economic force. Okay. They're not like anybody else. We can't deal with them from a military.
Starting point is 01:41:16 point. It's a totally different. We're totally encumbered with them. We offshored a lot of our stuff to China so we could have cheaper goods here. And so we are intricately linked. We have made them a rich nation. We have done that. Be becoming a consumer nation and making them a manufacturing nation. But this is absolutely China. There's no doubt about it. So my question is then how do we address? I get exactly what you're saying. That's where I was going to talk a little bit earlier. But how do you address this? Yeah, we need each other for business. But you are trying to destroy like if this guy with another COVID congressman we're finished again you got to weaken them you got a weaken them economically and so what what you have to do which is why I wasn't a fan of
Starting point is 01:41:57 the tariff situation what I what I was a fan of was trying to onshore jobs back to America right get some of these factories get some of these corporations between the end of the Biden administration and the beginning of the Trump administration we spent eight trillion dollars in these COVID rescue packages you know much money we put in there to on short jobs back from China? Zero. That was our opportunity to do it. You know, the chips in the chips and science act, some of that is the same thing, trying to onshore some of the stuff out of Taiwan back to America. We got, we got to get manufacturing back here. First of all, God forbid, we got into a World War. We don't make shit here. Okay, nothing. I saw that during COVID.
Starting point is 01:42:36 We had to convert factories to make masks and ventilators. It took 10 weeks to do that. Nobody, nobody could figure it out. We had to put so much money into it. has so much control over everything that's made. Like 90% of medical ingredients come out of China, by what comes out of Wuhan out of all things. Weird. Okay. We have to get some of these jobs back.
Starting point is 01:42:57 That means prices are going to go up here. And now with the tariffs, I just don't know that we have the ability to do that. So when you said, we need to weaken them economically, I feel like the reason that they unleashed COVID was because Trump was trying to weaken them and put the tariffs and do the trade deals with them. I think that was their response was, okay,
Starting point is 01:43:14 we're going to destroy him. He's not going to become president. COVID. By the way, so now what do we do? We haven't even mentioned the critical mineral issue, right? Like I was one of 10 Democrats that voted for the bill just yesterday. I'm getting a lot of crap for it because it had to do with mining. But for me, it's all about critical minerals.
Starting point is 01:43:29 People don't realize it because to your point, it's not a top story, right? We're not educating the voter. China controls 80% of the world's critical minerals. Putting aside that we need those things for cell phones and ships, all of our military weapons, all of them need these critical minerals. And they control 80% of not just where these minds are, but the processing. That's the key. The processing.
Starting point is 01:43:55 We got to get control of some of these mines. We're going to have to mine here to find some of these critical minerals. We're going to have to mine another place. That's why I never understood this idea of, oh, America first means we're going to retract from the world. You retract from the world. China takes the world. They take the whole world when we retract from the world. We can't do that.
Starting point is 01:44:14 That is not America first. Tom. So this is exactly why you're seeing Trump. Minerals was on the table on the first, second, and third offers for Ukraine. It was mineral mining so that they could be processed. Minerals in Greenland was part of the discussion. And there's a variety of things that are going on in the U.S., alternative means of getting lithium, like getting lithium out of seawalk. although just like desalination, it cost a fortune to do that unless you use fifth generation small nukes
Starting point is 01:44:51 and would actually decide you're going to permit those because they create a lot of electricity where you could run desalination, just like they do in Saudi Arabia, by the way. That's why parts of Saudi Arabia getting so green, because they desalinate a lot and they've got the power to do it. And so what Trump has been on a run on this, what's it, USA mineral or USA, the company that was created. So you're absolutely, correct and he is trying to reduce that dependence. You know, rare earth minerals and magnets will bring the defense industry to its knees, particularly magnets, if they suddenly stop. But the president has been looking at, you know, national security in terms of two things. Defense and economic security is national security. And that is what you're seeing. The president's
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Starting point is 01:46:44 Adam. Yeah, this story should scare the hell out of you. So China, we releases in a wet market next to across on the Wuhan Lab, the COVID in 2020, basically getting their entire country sick and turned in the entire world. They said to themselves, why do it in our own country this time? Let's go do it in Wuhan, Las Vegas. So I'm reading this story. I'm like, what in the Wuhan lab breaking down?
Starting point is 01:47:11 bad. Anthony Fauci, world is going on here in Las Vegas. Imagine if they let a virus out right now in Trump's second term, trying to derail Trump's second term for the second time. So like this is very scary. Here's a little marketing idea where anyone wants to get some eyeballs on probably the most important story of our lifetime, which is China, trying to take over the world. The guy that owned the house was Giuseu. But the property man, manager was a 55-year-old named Ori Solomon. Just say that Ori Solomon has ties to the Mossad and he met Xinjiang Zhu in Epstein Island. I knew it.
Starting point is 01:47:54 And everybody knew it. We'll focus on this thing moving forward. Oh, Chinese people in Las Vegas with a lab leak. No big deal. But he was on Epstein Island once. Whoa. Alert of the authorities. Because attention flows where energy flows.
Starting point is 01:48:10 attention flows their energy goes unless you take the attention off of epstein and put it on really things that are changing the world like chinese lab leaks in america nobody's going to pay attention of this all right let's go to next story wapo fires over 300 journalists as jeff bezos discriminated against white workers allegedly what okay wait a minute uh oh he's why wapo fires over 300 journalists as jeff bezos ignores correspondent please i combine two stories together it's okay please uh by the sounded good, though. I was like, he's white, though. Let me go to it. All right, page 28 is the story. Rob, do you have this? I think you may, you may have a clip on this. So WAPO on Wednesday announced layoffs for a third of its newsroom, including its entire sports desk, ignoring reporters,
Starting point is 01:49:00 impassioned pleased to billionaire owner Jeff Bezos, more than 300 journalists. Go ahead, Rob, play the clip. The Washington Post, owned by Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, began widespread layoffs on Wednesday in a move that would drastically shrink the size of the newspaper. That's according to a recording of a company-wide call shared with Reuters. A spokesperson for the newspaper said the cuts will impact a third of all employees. Executive editor Matt Murray told employees, the reductions will hit international, editing, metro and sports desks. The announcement comes just days after the paper, scaled back its coverage of the 2020. winter Olympics amid mounting financial losses.
Starting point is 01:49:45 News outlets have struggled for years to maintain a sustainable business model in the digital era. You can pause it right there. Tom, thoughts. So isn't it interesting that the world's second richest man who bought a newspaper, and he said on the day he bought it to save democracy, right? Is that any, okay? Let me tell you, he's a businessman. And in the last three years, one year was a 64 million. dollar loss. One year was $11 million loss. Check me on those numbers, but I believe those are correct.
Starting point is 01:50:16 And he's finally saying, wait a minute, I don't know if we can make a business out of this. This has to go to digital subscriptions. I saw a chart yesterday published by the Wall Street Journal that show that only the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times were having profitable success long term on digital subscription as papers, you know, disappear. You know, it's very interesting is we're down here in South Florida. And you remember how big the Sun Sentinel used to be. My father-in-law will come from Idaho, stay with us for about a month, month, and a half at a time, and he wants a daily paper. So we get the Sun Sentinel. Have you seen how big that is now? It's small. It's like a pamphlet. That's what's happened to the newspaper. So it's a business that is dying. The internet is killed, that
Starting point is 01:51:00 instant news is dead. And Bezos did this, I think, to control narrative and things. Now, it's a business decision he's making. Well, there was also a business decision he made where they were ready to go. You know, it used to be when you run for office, what do you want? You want the police chief, you want the fire chief, you want the newspaper, all to give you an endorsement. Oh, look, the mayor has been endorsed by all these people in the League of Women's Voters. If you got that, then you got all the people that represented that, then all you need was the teachers union, and in the small town mayor, you probably would win. So these were important vehicles in our history and elections. They were about to come out and endorse Kamala Harris. And Bezos pulled it.
Starting point is 01:51:45 He said, no. We will be neutral. We will support no one. The newsroom erupted and said, we think you're making the wrong call. Now, for America, I think Bezos made the right call. But to tell you who was subscribing to the Washington Post, they lost 200,000 digital subscriptions in the next, what, 30 to 60 days that was there. So they didn't have a profitable business. They don't have a profitable business. Now, there are better ways to do this because the layoff was happening and where's Bezos? Bezos should have been there and should have been able, like most entrepreneurs do, say, well, you know, this part didn't work, this part did, but I tried.
Starting point is 01:52:28 Failure is the freedom to fail. It's part of entrepreneurship. It's part of American capitalism. Instead, people think that Bezos has been cozying up to Trump to get certain benefits for other businesses that he wants, such as Amazon, and he has a space business. And he was actually giving a spaceport tour to J.D. Vance, supposedly at the exact time that the announcements of the layoffs were made to the people. and that the executive editor wasn't even on the call when people were told, do you know how they did it, Pat? Don't come to work tomorrow, get on an 8 a.m. Zoom, and then watch your email.
Starting point is 01:53:11 Let me ask this to Tom. He bought it October of 2013 for $250 million. He just let go of 300 journalists. I looked at online what the average salary is between $55,000 to $200,000. Let's take the average of $120,000 salary. That's $120,000 times $300. That's $36 million a year in savings, okay, automatically that you save, that $36 million. Do you think he's sitting there?
Starting point is 01:53:38 You know, sometimes you buy a business and you buy it for different reasons to feed the flywheel. And it ends up creating a lot of noise. Do you think WAPO has been the number one noise creator for him that he probably sits there saying, why the hell did I get into this business? I think that's very true. When he bought it, I read, and this goes back years ago, I read an analysis. It was like a private equity analysis.
Starting point is 01:54:04 You know what private equity buys, you and I are in this business, private equity buys a business, they immediately trim certain things. Sure. Well, the question was, why the hell would any daily newspaper have its own sports section? When ESPN and the leagues have their own sites, their own apps and everything, what are you going to add to conversation about the Washington Nationals that the MLB app, MOB.com, and ESPN don't always already cover. So you would have cut that day one?
Starting point is 01:54:30 I would have cut that day one and just say, hey, we're going to be about the community, we're going to be about the political dialogue, we're going to bring you angles on international things. And I want to look at what really, really works and what's not redundant and what can I, oh, crazy entrepreneurial capitalist word, what can I differentiate on? rather than me too, me too, me too, me too. And so I think this has created a lot of noise for Bezos for the last five years, and it's created a hole at the bottom of his pocket.
Starting point is 01:55:00 Remember, what did he pay for it? 250. 250 in October of 2013. And he self-funded a hundred and seven. In the last three years, he self-funded 174 in losses. By the way, let me ask you a question. If he puts it on the market right now for sale, how many buyers are there that for just vanity reasons would buy it?
Starting point is 01:55:20 I think there's a reasonable number of buyers. The L.A. Times Syndicate has got it kind of turned around. I don't know if they have the capital, but they've had a bloody path of their own, a terrible path of their own, the L.A. Times. So I think someone would be there, but I don't think there's going to be a line at the door. I mean, take a look at CNN.
Starting point is 01:55:39 How long did they try to sell that before the current situation with WBD? they were trying to sell CNN at the last two Allen conferences, and Zaz couldn't get any takers. We talked about that on this podcast. And you would ask the same question, Pat. You would say, doesn't someone see value in CNN to come in and turn it right? I know what I would do with that.
Starting point is 01:56:02 I mean, Mark Benihoff just came out and said, Time Magazine, we're just not making money with Time Magazine. And he bought it for, I don't know what he paid for, 350, 350 something when they bought it. And, Rob, if you want to look this up, and that created a ton of no. noise. I do think there's a lot of people that would buy it. You know, there's certain assets. I'm looking up right now, New York Times, has roughly 11.88 million total paid subscribers with 11.3 million
Starting point is 01:56:28 digital only, okay? New York Times and Wall Street Journal are the best in digital and they're making money. Very few others are. WAPO has 2.3 million dose to combine. I'm trying to figure out what LA Times is. Apparently, L.A. Times is print and digital. $650,000, which means, and by the way, you know what Peter paid for L.A. Times? L.A. $500 million. I don't know. I think he can probably turn this and make a profit and sell it for half a billion dollars.
Starting point is 01:56:58 As crazy as it sounds, I think some billionaire would buy it from him. I don't know why Bezos is not dumping WAPO and moving on with his life. It's creating so much on, if I was his PR rep or if I'm his agent manager, Senator saying, Jeff, why? What are you doing? What are you doing? There's nothing you can do right that you're going to win with WAPO. Dump the damn thing.
Starting point is 01:57:19 Let me get to work and sell it out of discount. We'll still get $4.54 and make you an additional $200 million. I would dump Waple in a heartbeat if I was him. Adam. Well, I think he is regretting purchasing it. The day that Trump got reelected in 2024, he's like, yeah, I'm out on this. Because if Trump didn't get reelected, all the media landscape would be completely different right now. So look at all the billionaires who have spent money.
Starting point is 01:57:43 on media, you're not doing it namely as just an investment. So take what Elon did and saved free speech, $44 billion, I think he spent on X. That's an anomaly. Most of these guys who are worth hundreds of billions are spending hundreds of millions on media. One percent of their net worth. This isn't a big transaction for someone like Bezos. He's worth $250 billion. He bought this for $250 million.
Starting point is 01:58:12 just a drop in a bucket. 1%. He spent 500 million bucks on his mega yacht, Bezos. So this to me is nothing. This is all about controlling the narrative, making a pressure on culture. He's not controlling the narrative.
Starting point is 01:58:26 It's just noise. Because Trump became president. If Trump wasn't president and Kamala was president, you don't think you'd be railing on what's going on here. Kamala using that as a leverage to getting closer to the administration. So now was Bezos at the inauguration? Yes or no? He was.
Starting point is 01:58:47 Remember Mark Zuckerberg was famously looking at Bezos' wife's chesticles, whatever you want to call him? So he's playing a hard game now. Nobody uses that. I've never heard of it. Ever. Try not to get canceled by the trans community, but with chess feeding.
Starting point is 01:59:04 She ain't trans, maybe. Once Trump became president, Bezos was like, oh, no. Now I'm caught in the middle of pickle. But by way, I disagree. The greatest time for media is Trump. If you can't make money in media now, if you can't make money now, you are not going to make it after Trump.
Starting point is 01:59:22 And sell it today. Because it's never going to get as good as this. I understand that, but Bezos wants to get closer to the Trump administration for other reasons. By the way, for Amazon and for Blue Orden. You asked a question earlier why people got close to Epstein, right? So we talked about how billionaires are not cool, you know, cool people don't have money. They're broke. all these different reasons.
Starting point is 01:59:42 Bezos is the face of billionaires who were not cool. And he tried to become cool. So you got some Tartina's body, body looks good, exercises, became cool. They said a beautiful girl. Move to Miami. He's kind of trying to get through that face. But to me, number one advice today, dump this damn asset. I wouldn't be surprised if in the next 12 months we hear a story that Jeff Bezos has sold WAPO for $339 million to some other billionaire out there.
Starting point is 02:00:10 Don't be surprised if it happened this quickly. He's at a phase of his life that he needs to minimize noise. He's graduated into the cool phase now. You don't need to do this anymore. But then he won't own a media asset. Now, go buy sports team. Go buy something else. Don't do this.
Starting point is 02:00:24 You can be cool. Sports owners are different. They're cool. If you think about sports owners, like, hey, you know, they go to time massage places. You know, they go to different kind of places. Sports owners, they have a different kind of a reputation of marketplace, right? Of course, don't go after my guy over there. The Patriots.
Starting point is 02:00:43 Well, we're going to get into that here in a minute because we've got to find out who's going to do this. But I want to get into one other story. I want to get into one other story. Before we wrap it up, what was the story? I was literally just looking at the story I want to go to next. Oh, here we go. It's probably out of all the stores we've talked about,
Starting point is 02:00:59 I'm probably going to put this at the top. I'm going to put this at the top. And I think you're going to agree with them. Is it serious? No, it's a very serious story. Is it like national security? What happened in Malaysia? No, no, I'm just trying to.
Starting point is 02:01:10 I see because. What happened in Malaysia? What happened? Jared, how hard do you guys work with your job? Congress? Yeah. It's a joke. It's a joke?
Starting point is 02:01:18 It's a joke. Not that much work. We had a three-day work week this week. Okay. Well, because it's, yeah. Well, then that's good for this. First of all, it's not even a three-day work week. We fly in.
Starting point is 02:01:26 We have votes Monday night. Then we had one set of votes Tuesday, votes Wednesday afternoon, out. Done. That's it. That's it. Are you guys hiring? I don't think you can make this sort of money.
Starting point is 02:01:39 I don't think you can make this sort of money. Rob, you're going to have to change your profile photo. Okay. But I don't think you can make that sort of money in capital. Look, what I tell people like, when I was the director of emergency management, like that, I was working 20-hour days. Congress doesn't work. I mean, what's our approval rating? 18%, 17%.
Starting point is 02:01:59 That's high for you guys right now. High. It's an all-time low. 18%. So this kind of takes me to the story because this is actually a good transition into the story. because the Malaysia minister he believes work stress makes you gay this is what you want to talk about
Starting point is 02:02:18 remark in parliament goes viral I got to go how Nizzen's react so by the way Rob is this truly a real story that's what I want to know are you serious that this is a real story well he's the minister
Starting point is 02:02:32 he's the Malaysian minister says that workplace stress can push individuals to become involved in the elderly LGBTQ community. I've heard a lot of different things. I don't know if I've heard anything dumber than this year, by the way. But just please fact check that he actually said this. I think he did. This is factual. I just want to make sure this is not one of these fake stuff that. I think it was by Zulifika McCann. Is that the name? I'm going to butcher that. I mean, if this is a true story. My respectful would actually report it. Yeah. Malaysian religious fair ministers of
Starting point is 02:03:06 I'm trying to pronounce it correctly. Reply suggesting that a mix of factors, including work-related stress, social influence, and social experiences, and lack of religious practice could lead to this. Okay, so this was a reply from a response. By the way, if this were factually based during COVID, I would have been the gayest person you had ever met, okay? I know. Because I didn't sleep for four months. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:03:32 So this is hard work makes you gay. Adam, you're safe. Yeah, so no, this makes, this makes you. Tom, Tom, what do you get? Four out of ten. Four out of ten. You're being friendly. You're being friendly. Anyways, I was just going to ask this because I wanted to find out for me if, you know, our art or.
Starting point is 02:03:49 Well, he's safe because he just said Congress is chilling. But to me, if you say something like this, every entrepreneur in the world is gay. Oh, for sure. Closet, almost like you. Every military veteran, you know, working 80 hours a week, they're, you know. I mean, Trump does like the village people. He does. Favorite song.
Starting point is 02:04:05 And he's building a ballroom. I mean I don't think that can be debated that he likes village people Musk says Save Act requiring I do okay this is a good one for you Jared
Starting point is 02:04:16 We're going to come to this to you to see if are these diamonds real or not So Musk says Save Act requires ID to vote Must be done or democracy is dead Rob do you have this clip I do this is the tweet And then I have the clip that the tweets in reference
Starting point is 02:04:31 So Glenn Beck tweets By passing this one act The GOP will save the Republican and rescue the GOP if they fail. We all fail. 80% of all Americans want this. You need ID for everything except voting. There is only one reason not to pass this, and we all know what it is. Okay, so that's what he's saying.
Starting point is 02:04:50 Elon comes out and says, he must be done or democracy is dead. Rob, if you want to go to the clip of Elon, oh, to this clip. And this is CNN, which is phenomenal. Go for it. And then, Jared, I'm going to come to you. Take a look here. Favorite photo ID to vote. 85% of white people favorite.
Starting point is 02:05:04 82% of Latino, 76% of black Americans favorite. So the bottom line is this. Voter ID is not controversial in this country. A photo ID to vote is not controversial in this country. It is not controversial by party, and it is not controversial by race. The vast majority of Americans agree with Nikki Minaj that, in fact, you should have a photo ID to be able to vote. So something of a not... Jared, thoughts?
Starting point is 02:05:30 By the way, have you guys voted recently? You go with a phone. photo ID. You show your driver's license. And if you don't have a driver's license, you have a government-issued license. That's how you vote. So you do vote in Florida with a photo ID. And you have to do that in all the other states, as far as I know, that you have to show photo ID. So look, I am all for showing a photo ID to vote. That is not what the Save Act is doing. Elon is telling the truth. And he says, this will save the Republic. He should have said a Republican. Okay. What the Save Act really is about is about getting people, less people to. vote. It really, that's what it is. First of all, it would create a dramatic problem for women who have their maiden name on their birth certificate and their married name on their driver's license. Okay, because it doesn't, it doesn't fix that issue. So that's, that's one of the reasons why the Save Act doesn't work. How long is it? I got to stop you. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Maiden named to married name? Yeah, so the thing is, you're going with that. If you're
Starting point is 02:06:30 honestly, respectfully, you're going with that. How many decades is that a problem? No, no, but if your photo ID doesn't match your birth certificate, you might not be able to get the voter ID card. So we went to Republicans to say, he'd just fix that issue. Didn't want to fix it. This is about people who are poor, who work several jobs, and are not going to have the time to go get this new voter ID. This is no different than getting people off of the mail and voting rolls, which they did in Florida, to make them re-register again. This is about decreasing voter turnout, period. When he says there is only one reason not to pass this, and we all know what it is. Yeah, I know what it is.
Starting point is 02:07:10 This is about less voter turnout, getting those lower propensity voters not to vote. There are ways to do this. The way they want to do it is just about less voters. That's what it is. By the way, you said earlier that every state requires an ID to vote. That's just not true. I just said, I know in Florida we do. No, but that's the problem.
Starting point is 02:07:31 You lived in Florida. I lived in L.A., California. right now, I lived in Texas. We live in Texas five years. Give a voting card? Well, no. If you go, if you, Rob, pull it up real quick. I think it's, I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 02:07:42 10 or 15 states that you can go vote with no ID. And then there are states that you can vote with no photo ID. Yeah, zoom in a little bit on the color so we can explain what the colors are. Yeah, no IDs required are the grays. No photo ID required to vote. And then the blue is photo ID required. Look where you live. Photo ID required.
Starting point is 02:08:04 I'm all good with photo ID being recorded. Oh, you are with that. You're good with that. Yeah, but photo ID, like your government issued ID. To get to vote. Yeah, not a new thing that I have to go do. Like, the SAVE Act wants to create a new process. It doesn't say you can use your driver's license.
Starting point is 02:08:20 You can use your government issued ID. That's not what the SAVE Act does. It now says that you need to go get your birth certificate to go get your new voter ID card. You've got to go take your passport to go get your new voter ID card. It's not saying you now need your regular driver's license to go vote. You need your regular federal ID that you use to fly to go vote. That's not what the SAVE Act does. It wants to create a completely new ID that you're going to need to vote.
Starting point is 02:08:45 And that's why it's voter suppression. What is global entry? Global entry, if I'm traveling TSA, don't have to get a new ID, right? You know what global entry is? Yeah, of course. That's the fast lane. Yeah, the fast thing. Global entry is not mandatory, though.
Starting point is 02:08:57 No, no, it's not mandatory. No, what I'm saying is I know it's not mandatory, but where I'm at the least, They don't even want photo IDs. So I think what they're trying to do here, my opinion, you can push back and you're in this world so you can push back. I think they're going for this, but I think they're willing to settle out of photo ID. So I think if they go in the room...
Starting point is 02:09:17 But then put that bill on the floor that you have to use your government-issued ID, your current government-issued ID or your passport, right? Any federal government-issued ID, you can use that, right? You can use it. When you fly, when to drive, you can use it. They want to create a new voter ID. You have a vote on the floor. I voted against it.
Starting point is 02:09:39 Why don't, yeah. Then caucus with people and go for the compromise position. They don't want to compromise because that compromise doesn't achieve the objective. The objective is to create a new process that a lot of people won't participate in and will- Why not, though? Why not your- Listen, there's a lot of people that don't have time to sit here and do a podcast. They're working three, four jobs, right?
Starting point is 02:09:59 When they took people off those voting rolls for the mail and Those guys at times to go get an ID. Hold on. If you can go... They have an ID. Let them use it. Let them use their driver's license. Yeah, but what is the argument for a voter ID?
Starting point is 02:10:12 What is the argument for it? Their argument? Their argument is saying you should have an ID to go vote. To prove it to you. Great. Let them use their federally issued ID. Can the illegals get a photo? If you're an illegal alien, can you get an ID in California?
Starting point is 02:10:26 A driver's license. Let me tell you how California works. If you bring your California ID to text, or Florida, Tom, you'll remember this. Yep. When you bring it here, you need to show two form of identification and bills and whatever to get an idea. I don't remember exactly what it was. Do you know what they didn't use, Vinnie?
Starting point is 02:10:45 The California ID. Why? You know this? No, but why? So if I came here, they looked at the Texas idea as valid, but they don't look at California idea as valid. Weird. That's exactly. Do you remember this time or now?
Starting point is 02:10:59 So Texas, you go to go to, Jared, maybe you don't know this. Texas, I go to get my driver's license. I get there in 2013, and I go to get my driver's license in Texas. I show my California license, and they're like, no, I need a power bill to validate your address or something or a lease or anything that you've got here to that. And utility would be great because it's with the city to validate your address. But you need a, do you have a birth certificate or a passport? I says, why? Because the California driver's license is on our excluded ID list to get a driver's license in Texas. I said, why is that? Because the California driver's license has been corrupted because they allow
Starting point is 02:11:36 people who are not citizens to get it. So there's not a proof of citizenship on that because of recent things they've done. So it's off our list. Sorry to inconvenience you. You can go to the head of the line if you come back and bring your form with the pass. So I went home. I got my passport and got back in line. That's how I got my Texas in. So this is what Texas is doing in terms of because they knew what California had done to its own driver's license by compromising it by allowing, you know, illegal aliens to actually get California driver's licenses through loopholes. First of all, the entire country just changed to that new sort of federal ID for your driver's license, right? So the whole country would go to that, the real ID. So the whole country moved over to that number one. Number two is we let people fly with that California driver's license that you're talking about. So it's obviously good enough for for
Starting point is 02:12:24 TSA because we let people fly with that third. Guys, there's no evidence. None. Zero that is ever been presented that there are mass undocumented people voting and changing the elections. Trump litigated his election in 2020 in front of 70 different judges in front of all these jurisdictions. They presented stuff. There was no evidence that this took place. So let me ask you a question. Then why for Biden's administration for four years was the border completely wide open? Totally different issue. And it shouldn't have been. And I understand, and I know that you agree with me on that. But no voter ID and new voters in the right places.
Starting point is 02:13:03 Yeah, but here's the thing. Give me, I'm not saying, I'm just saying in general, as the Democratic Party, because it's not like they cared about these illegals. They don't give two craps about it. If we're going to be honest, they don't give a damn about the kids. They don't give a damn about these people that are coming over. Almost 15 to 20 million people here. Give me the argument for why they let, the Biden administration, let them come in here.
Starting point is 02:13:24 Is it for the census numbers that count towards redistricting for people? and people sitting in Congress. Because their fight right now, the biggest fight that's happening in the country right now is the left seems like they care more about illegals than they care about Americans. Giving them housing, getting them in there, protesting in the streets.
Starting point is 02:13:41 Nobody's protesting about anything else. All the problems that we have in this country, they are fighting for people that do not belong here. And there has to be an explanation. There has to be a simple, because it's not that they care. Democrats, nobody gives a damn about these people. Trump is fixing,
Starting point is 02:13:57 he's trying to fix the problem that the Biden administration did. It's like somebody coming into your house, pooping on the floor, and then you're getting a mad at knee for picking up the poop. What are you doing? I'm cleaning up the mess that they made. So the argument comes to, they can't vote. Go to California. You can vote.
Starting point is 02:14:13 Go to this 16 states. You don't even need a photo ID. My thing is you have to have, I know you agree, identification. The SAVAC says you have to be a citizen. And for all these married women and whatever, get your lazy asses and go get a freaking ID. Anybody could do it.
Starting point is 02:14:27 It's already the law that you have to be a citizen to vote. Okay. First of all, Barack Obama deported more people than Donald Trump did in both his terms. Exactly. In his first term, Barack Obama did. Tom Holman got an award from Barack Obama. You got the medal. Okay, got the medal.
Starting point is 02:14:40 Barack Obama has still deported more people than Donald Trump is deporting now. So to blame the whole party on this issue is not true. Second of all, this immigration issue has been going on for a long time. Yes. This is a 20-30-year deal. And yeah, election issue is linked up to that. Why? Because the reason why you don't want to give a path to citizenship is if you give them a path to citizenship, guess what they get? They get the ability to vote. And then, yes, Texas could go blue. So they're not going to let that happen.
Starting point is 02:15:09 So by the way, why are they against that? Because they know they can't vote now. They can't vote now. That's why they don't want to give them the path to citizenship. If you give them a path to citizenship, then they do get to vote. So this just proves that they can't vote now. That's why they're against doing it. Guys, there's no evidence of this. Let people use their regular government issues. ID. We don't need to create an entirely separate, new voter ID that a lot of people are just not going to be What's the likelihood this passes? Well, I mean, it passed the House, so
Starting point is 02:15:38 it's up to the Senate. Senate is two-thirds or Senate has to be? They need 60 votes because there's the automatic filibuster, and what they're trying to get John Thune to do now is to change the filibuster rules and do what's called the standing filibuster, which is to go back to the old days when you actually had to stand on the floor and filibuster. So, Democrats,
Starting point is 02:15:56 would need someone on the floor constantly talking all the time to stop it. Now, if Thune does that. You'll like all those speeches. If Thune does that, then, you know, then obviously we're continuing to change the rules in the Senate. And I will say this. Democrats and Republicans together have changed the rules in the Senate. Remember, Harry Reid got rid of the filibuster for Supreme Court judges, and then Republicans got rid of it for regular district court judges.
Starting point is 02:16:24 That has led to the judiciary now being a... a lot more partisan. If the Senate continues to get rid of the rules, they're just the House. They just become the House. If it's a majority rule in the Senate, it's just the House. And here's what happens. What happens is every four years or six years, we're going to pass statutes, then we're going to remove statutes. We're going to pass more statutes. Then we're going to remove statutes. And this country, the chaos will get even worse as we've gerrymandered all these districts. General elections don't matter anymore. Right? It's all about the primary. running to the left, running to the right, amping up the division.
Starting point is 02:17:00 And so, you know, I hope he doesn't change the filibuster rules because then we just continue, continue, and continue. But, Congressman, in the Constitution, Article 1, Section 4 says Congress can at any time make laws to regulate and alter election procedures, especially when it's getting out of hand like this. But still, going back to my initial question, what was the reason for opening the border for Alejandro Mayorka, sitting in Congress saying the border is secure?
Starting point is 02:17:26 Kamala Harris saying the border is secure. So we were invaded by our government. She eventually found the border. Yeah, well, she did. Yeah, she's once, I guess. And I'm curious because I know you're opposing. You don't want, you have a family, Congressman. You have children.
Starting point is 02:17:39 God forbid. God forbid something ever happened by somebody that does not belong to this country from a purposeful president and an administration and letting these people in. I'm just looking for it because I know a bunch of American people, especially ones that have lost loved ones, family members that have lost daughters that were sexually assaulted, the R word, all that stuff.
Starting point is 02:17:57 What was the reason for opening the border? And even when Texas went to put barbed wire, they sued, they went and put up bulldozers and picked up the thing and let them come in. What is the rational? Well, explain that to me. How did that happen? And how did nobody say anything on the left?
Starting point is 02:18:12 They were just like, come on, come on in. That's why people like me question, like, why would you let them in? I'm so curious. There were people on the left that were talking about the remaining Mexico policy. There were people on the left talking about, listen there's a difference between economic asylum versus physical asylum look my my family came
Starting point is 02:18:29 here escaping the holocaust my grandmother was part of the kinder transport out of germany her her family was killed in auschwitz my grandfather escaped poland from the pogroms his entire family everybody aunt's cousins uncles everybody was killed this country let us come in 100% by way first they didn't they turned the ship around yeah but eventually they let us come in escaping persecution okay look latin america ain't of course yeah it's not it's not it's not a great place Great place, obviously. So there's a lot of people that want to come here for opportunity. Now, the difference, the question is, is, did we provide a magnet?
Starting point is 02:19:01 Because that's when we hear about immigration. You can hear about this magnet that you can turn on that attracts versus flipping the magnet around and repelling. Okay. We clearly turned the magnet on and too many people came. Too many people came in. Hold on. We didn't bust them here. They came because they.
Starting point is 02:19:18 But the president and them said, come in. We're not Trump. Come in here. They can't. because they're escaping their conditions. Now, whether we should have let them seek asylum in the country versus remaining in Mexico while they seek asylum, that's the policy I agree with,
Starting point is 02:19:36 which is let these people seek asylum, but we shouldn't have necessary to let them all in to seek asylum here. But Congressman, let's say 15 million people, and I get it just so my, his family, him included, my mother, but grandmother, they all came here from the Middle East to escape that, and I get it. But they came through a process. And what I'm saying is, what about the millions?
Starting point is 02:19:55 I think Thomas Holman said what? Unfair to them. Unfair. Yeah, unfair, but here's ready for this? Two million godaways, meaning we have no idea who they are. We don't know where they are. We just heard another story about a Chinese bio lab that has freaking all these pathogens in it. And then 300,000 missing children.
Starting point is 02:20:11 And we're sitting here and talking about Epstein and all these kids and all that. It's unbelievable the amount of damage that they did. And you talk about these Democrats, Congressman, with all for them? I didn't hear one Democrat stand up. during the Biden administration and say, guys, shut the border. What are we doing? Al-Hajal Mayorkas, you're full of crap. All right, let me say one more thing about this.
Starting point is 02:20:30 So the president's immigration policy in August had a 59% approval rating. Today it has a 39% approval rating. And why do you think that is? Because the media is saying that he's Hitler and he's a Nazi? Hold up. First of all, nobody's Hitler other than a Hitler. That's always the rule. That's always the rule. The rule you live by is Hitler compared nobody to Hitler.
Starting point is 02:20:47 One of one. Okay. Yeah, well, the left doesn't see you like that. But here's the thing, okay, the American. American people voted to go after gang members and criminals. He told us that's what they were going to do. Yes. And they voted for that, no doubt.
Starting point is 02:21:00 Illegals. Illegals. Hold on. He said criminals, gang members, aside. These people who escape the insane asylum. Illegals are criminals. If you're illegal, by the... Hold on. I'm not debating that.
Starting point is 02:21:11 Right. That's not what he told the American people. He didn't tell the American people we're going... Rob, can you pull up his Trump 4720 promises? I don't know if he did or not. Maybe you're right. We'll read it right now. What the American people are watching?
Starting point is 02:21:23 what they're watching live on TV and that's how Trump lives his world. That's not what's happening. Okay, that's not what's happening. The mission went way beyond what the American people were told and anticipated. We're going into factories, you know, for Hyundai and getting rid of their workers. We're getting rid of people that are working in our fields.
Starting point is 02:21:40 There it is. So Trump's number one promise seal the border. Was sealed the border and stopped the migrant invasion. He didn't say criminals. He didn't say any of that stuff. Hold on, but that's a different issue. Sealing the border and stopping coming in is different than what do you do with the people here? Well, look at number two.
Starting point is 02:21:55 Carry out the largest deportation operation. Well, he's failing. But that's his promise, though. But he's failing on that. You're saying that, but to me, let me ask you a question. Okay, so here's a question for you. What is harder to get? Is it harder to get a photo ID?
Starting point is 02:22:11 Is it harder to get the Save Act voter ID? Or is it harder to get a green card? It's harder to get a green card. Okay, so it's harder to get a green card. Yeah, 100%. So the people, that you're saying have a hard time because they're so busy and they're not going to do anything illegal.
Starting point is 02:22:27 If they have a... No, that's different. We're talking about citizens. I totally get it. But somebody who's here that is a citizen or even has got a green card. People with a green card can vote. If you got a green card, I joined the military with just a green card, and I wasn't a U.S. citizen.
Starting point is 02:22:42 Just so you know what, I joined the army with a green card. So even if somebody can get a green card, and green card's harder to get, why can't they get people to get a, you know, voter ID? What would be the difficulty of that? You're saying to people that have three jobs, I'm running nine companies. I'm working...
Starting point is 02:23:00 But we don't need... Take Florida. We don't need new voter ID. We have... But that's not Florida. But that's not Florida. So to you, you've lived in a state that you don't have this issue Congressman. Respectfully, you guys don't deal with that here. What I'm saying? Take what Florida's doing. People are allowed to use
Starting point is 02:23:16 their driver's license. Okay. They're allowed to use their federally issued... The difference is this. Here's the difference. And I'm loving this exchange because it's, we're going through leaks that every one of us is trying to find, especially for myself, this is your world. I can't, if I'm running the country, tell California what to do with the photo ID law of that state. The only thing I can do is to say, oh, you don't want to, you don't want to require an ID to vote photo ID? No problem. Guess what? I can't as the president tell you to get a photo ID, but guess what we're going to do for
Starting point is 02:23:50 the country. Everybody needs a voter ID. You want to screw on with me and kind of do this stuff in a complete different way? But where's the evidence that that's happening? Gavin Luceon signed the Senate bill 1170. They got people in trouble for shoulder ID. There's no evidence that tens of, let's just say tens of thousands. Okay, first of all, California is. Then you have nothing to worry about. Yeah, exactly. Then you have nothing to worry about. Yeah, of course I do. If there's no evidence, you have nothing to worry about. Because now you're going to make working class people who vote Democrat go get a brand new separate ID. So what?
Starting point is 02:24:21 I want them to get at these. That's going to decrease turnout. If you're saying there's no proof that are people doing this, then there's nothing to worry about. Let's just kind of move forward to make it honest and get states that don't want to allow people to have IDs have IDs. This is a very, very clear issue for me. It's not a complicated issue for me. If you have the time to go cross the border legally or illegally, get your green card, get your ID, get a job, take your kids to school, get a TSA period, get all this stuff. You have the time to go get a vote.
Starting point is 02:24:50 who the SAVE Act is going to target. The SAVE Act is going to eventually affect lower income working class people who are not going to go do this separate process to vote. Why is it going to target that? I mean, we could talk 12 hours about why people in the lower 60 seconds. Because they're so busy trying to just survive in this country that every barrier you put in front of people. Why did the poll tax stop people from voting? Every barrier you put stops people from By the way, what if he does this? What if he does this? Okay, great. Hey, if you're watching, here's an idea for you. To all the people you're so worried about, I have a very simple proposition to Republicans. Guess what? The U.S. government will pay for one-day vacation for you to go get your voter ID because you are so busy. So let's do the math. If you do the math, you've got how many working people, those that don't have a problem with it. Let's target the people that are the low-income. What percentage, Rob, can you pull up a percentage of What percentage of people would be considered low, what's the way we want to categorize? Minimum wage.
Starting point is 02:25:56 What percentage would you put low income adults in America? Voters. Low income adults. American. What is the number? 10.6%. So what is that? 35.9 million?
Starting point is 02:26:07 Low poverty. Perfect. Below poverty. Take their average salary. Say 32,000. Let's just make it 50,000. Take 50,000 divided by 200 days. $50,000 divided by 200 days is what?
Starting point is 02:26:18 $250. $250? times 35.9 million is what, Rob? Can you do the math, please? $250 times we're going to do some math with this congressman here. We're going to figure this out together. We're not even in office. It's like a movie Dave. So $250 times $35.9 million makes it $8.9 billion. Guess what? We paid $8.9 billion to dumber things. Let's pay $8.9 billion for people to get one full day. paid workday because we're so concerned because they're busy, go get it done. If we pay them, would you be open to it?
Starting point is 02:26:56 By the way, if you give people a holiday to go get their voter ID and you give them a holiday to go vote, I'm all for it. Perfect. That's what we do. Now, by the way, hold on. My Republican colleagues have been against that for decades. No, no, no. We were just turned on a holiday.
Starting point is 02:27:13 Because if you give people a holiday, increases voter time. Well, they don't want to work too hard because they don't want to become getting. It increases voter turnout. Jared, can I got to ask. at a clarifying point. Clarifying point. I'm now reading the small text. We have a deal, but let me
Starting point is 02:27:26 here's the small. Tom, you're overselling. I thought you were against filibuster. So, 38% of Americans right now approve of the way ICE and the policy is being executed. That is what you said. Shooting Americans in the face is not a hobby.
Starting point is 02:27:47 Hang on. Hang on. That's a whole different debate. 67% of Americans this day, according to a Maris poll, Harris Poll, and Rasmussen, so there's a poll in there for everybody, both say they agree with the president's policy. Strongly. So you can't. That's even a worse indictment. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:28:04 Think about what you just said. They voted for a policy that they're not seeing. And the execution of it, that's why the president said the other day, he thinks his public relations is that. Hang on, Jared. What you said a minute ago, I just want to make sure it's clear. There's two different things here. There's the policy they agreed with that they voted for that they still support to this day.
Starting point is 02:28:24 And this is of all voters, the 67%. On the Republican side, it's like 88%. So that's the blend. But 38% say- By way, that's why he should fire Nome. She's been a total disaster. Now, I wasn't opening the door for that. We can debate all these six.
Starting point is 02:28:40 Let me open it for you. Jared. Jared, we like you. This has been going up. What happened to Trump? Hold on. What happened to Trump? Trump made tens of millions of dollars. firing people weekly on television. People tuned in.
Starting point is 02:28:52 It was much CTV. Eric on one side. Hold on Eric on one side. You're fired. People loved it. He was popular. And now he's like firing people's weakness. That's weakness. You've already spoken.
Starting point is 02:29:07 Well, you're trying to be me right now. One small small point. Can you at least admit, Congressman, that the look of what's happening is on, it's two-tiered. Number one. We just figured it out. Well, number one, when you. You have, when you have the media who all despise him from CNN to MSNBC, they're making the coverage and the way that they're reporting it is absolutely abysmal. Number one.
Starting point is 02:29:29 Number two, when you have the sitting governor, the sitting mayor, Elon Omar saying, and I believe I take complete offense, I'm not Jewish, Congressman. When people say Hitler and Hitler, that's one of the worst thing that you can do, they've been calling freaking Trump and all this Gestapo. I think it's absolutely disgusting, especially when people have had family. members lost under German rule. I think it's disgusting. When you have those people... By the way, Joe Rogan called them the Gestapo. Yeah. Well, hold up. We talked about that. But here's the thing. Congressman, if you have the leadership of the state saying Hitler, Gestapo, get in their face, do this, and then you have nurses going up to people with a gun on them interfering with federal law enforcement.
Starting point is 02:30:08 I know you know it's illegal. That is a problem. Okay, because at the end of the day, New York Times reported this and they didn't have, they were, their minds were boggled. They didn't know where this came from. Murder is down 20%. Overdoses of drugs, heroin, fentanyl, everything is down all-time low. They don't even know how to respond to it. Could that be because he's kicking all these people out? And I understand.
Starting point is 02:30:29 I understand. With a mass immigration deportation, there's going to be people here. Okay, we got this person wrong. We got this. That's going to happen. But the media is making him look like he's a freaking maniac, which Obama's the number one guy. He's trying to catch Obama because he wants to be number one.
Starting point is 02:30:45 And the fact that the governor, Jim Walls is still saying it. He's Hitler, he's Nazi. Don't listen to them and get in their faces. Go ahead. I'll give you the final thoughts and I'll wrap up. Go ahead. You can respond to that.
Starting point is 02:30:57 What I was going to say is you guys have the guy who did this deportation. And Tom Holman, you have the guy. Right? And we didn't see masked men in the streets. But there's nobody recorded it. I know. Nobody was recorded it. The only thing I would say is, the only thing I would say is I understand that argument.
Starting point is 02:31:14 The difference is when I'm calling. calling from the White House and the president is a Democrat and I'm asking Minneapolis to cooperate and you're a Democrat, they do. When my name and Tom Holman's there, Tom Holman, he's my guy. My name is Barack Obama. Great. I'll take care of and I'll give you what you want. Under Trump, when they call and these blue cities don't want to cooperate, whatever you want to call a sanctuary city, whatever reason, to make the president look back. They're not working together as a team. So it makes it harder for ICE to do its job because there's a lack of cooperation. And I understand why they do that. It's politics. They need the exposure. They need the new, you know, things to see.
Starting point is 02:31:55 Right now, data came up. You know what the data came up yesterday? MAGA, people that voted for Trump. Do you know what percent of them? N10 just did a new one, Rob. I don't know if you saw this from yesterday. I wasn't even going to show this. But they showed that MAGA, right now, people that voter for Trump, is that it, Rob? Yes, sir. It just went even higher. This is yesterday. This is yesterday?
Starting point is 02:32:18 Play the clip, Rob. The movement, again, that's what we're talking about. Make America Great Again movement. And it is as powerful as it has ever been, because I want you to take a look here. GOP who view MAGA favorably, two years ago when Donald Trump was running for term number two, it was 74%. Today, look at this. It's 78% of Republicans. who voted for him to make America Great Again movement favorably.
Starting point is 02:32:42 So we're talking about something that, in my opinion, will very much be able to outlast Donald Trump. Trump is in term number two. He can't run for a term number three, but the bottom line is this. What he brought into the GOP looks like it's going to last. 1040. It's 1140.
Starting point is 02:32:57 By the way, Jared, we've enjoyed it. It's actually a lot of fun. And we're going to invite you more. Are you close? Are you around here? I live in Parkland. Okay, fantastic. This was great.
Starting point is 02:33:07 This was great. No, we like this. We like the banter. We like the exchange. As long as you're respectful and you're respectful, we enjoyed having you on. Rob, can you do me, can you do me if ever is Mateo here? Can we bring Matteo?
Starting point is 02:33:18 Where's Matteo at? Can you check with Mateo if the truck is ready or no? Is he here? Mateo, can you bring where are you at? Come on down. Come on down. Come on down. Okay.
Starting point is 02:33:29 Come on down. So, not only is MAGA went from 74 to 78%. But somebody's approval rating went from 4%. went from 45 to 46% and that 46% is officially Adam's new age. Happy birthday, Adam. If you want to bring it up, we can sing for you on three, one, two, three. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.
Starting point is 02:33:59 Thank you, Lee. Happy birthday, dear Adam. I know it's amazing when your age actually equals your IQ. Man. You guys. There you go, buddy. I don't appreciate this bad PR saying I'm 46. I'm 40-ish, PBD.
Starting point is 02:34:14 I'm still 40, but thank you. I saw you give me a shout out on Wednesday. And I'm trying to make everybody proud and be pragmatic. And thank you for coming on today. Thank you for having me be a part of this. Respect to PBD and to all the haters out there, I still love you. And to all the people that love me.
Starting point is 02:34:34 And I'm good wish. Get a blow it out with a good wish. Come on. I'm wishing for one thing. We know what it is. Mazel tov. There you go. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 02:34:44 Rob, pull up his Mnacht. Folks, if you want to wish Adam a happy birthday or send a bunch of messages of you not being happy with him, there's the QR code. Wish him a happy birthday on Menect. With that being said, gang, we will do it again next week. God bless everybody. Have a great weekend.
Starting point is 02:35:02 Take care. Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

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