PBD Podcast - Colby Covington Opens up | PBD Podcast | Ep. 343

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Starting point is 00:00:43 I don't know about that. I'm going to check out today's episode is three, four, three on Terry, oh Canada. What is that? Canada, Ontario, Canada. No, we're mayor. Nothing to do with Ontario, Canada, right? Absolutely. Absolutely. Enough. Our guest today gets shy when the camera's on. Something happens with the camera. And he even expresses his most. He was let me. He was like, I have a little super camera shot. Kobe, chaos, coming, 10. He's got a lot of different personalities, man.

Starting point is 00:01:13 You see him fighting, calling people out, getting a lot of people pissed off. We'll cover some of that stuff. But if there's one thing you know, you know who he is in the UFC world, Kobe, coming, 10, it's great to have you, man. Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. We're honored. It's great to have you, man. Thanks for having me on, I appreciate it. We're honored.

Starting point is 00:01:25 It's great to have you here. I think one thing most people don't know, and I don't know if you kind of like hide it from people that you don't want people to know, is your level of loyalty and admiration for President Joe Biden. Have you always been a, you know, like a private thing? Because I know obviously you're wearing this hat this, this hat called make America great again. How do you feel about President Joe Biden? Oh, man, I, I think he's seen now.

Starting point is 00:01:52 I don't think that he's still there. He can't even ride a bike anymore. So, you know, the guy has nothing there. I think that even his handlers are just feeding him too many drugs just to keep him alive every day. It's, it's sad to see, you know, they're holding him like a little puppet. So, you know, you see a guy like President Trump, you know, he was at my fight in Vegas. He was at Reno the next day.

Starting point is 00:02:11 He was at Iowa the day before, and then he was speaking at New Hampshire the next day. The guy's got so much energy. Like, that's what we need in office right now is a guy like President Trump who has the energy to go all day and not get tired for our country. And it's so tough to understand a driver like him, like it's constant going, going, going, going, going. And today, I'm sure you saw, we'll get into the stuff with him, Colorado, he can't compete.

Starting point is 00:02:33 And, you know, what they're trying to do with him, with him not being able to run. By the way, do you guys see what the Santa's when he was asked the same question he said? Oh, oh, oh, oh. Can you pull that up about Colorado when VVX and I'm going to take all the services I'm not? Maybe find that clip as well, but how you feeling?

Starting point is 00:02:46 You just had a fight with Edwards. How you doing? I'm doing good. I mean, I didn't get touched. Look at my face, man. I don't got a scratch on it. You do look good. You have no scratch.

Starting point is 00:02:55 How'd you feel about the fight, though? How'd you feel about the fight? I mean, looking at it back, you know, I doubled them in strike. Strike count, you know, I had five minutes of control time. He didn't have one minute. So I feel like I beat him in the fight, you know, I broke my foot in like the first 30 seconds of the fight that people don't know about yet.

Starting point is 00:03:09 The X-rays are start coming up straight up because you're in a boot. I mean, people can't obviously see it, but you broke your foot. The first minute of the fight, the first minute of the fight. Like I had to put you on my phone like the exact moment where it landed on his elbow. Yeah. Can we see it? Yeah, for sure.

Starting point is 00:03:21 Of course. First minute and first minute. And, Cole, you know, right off the, like once that strike hits, Cobra, you know in your head, you're like, it's broke. Yeah, you feel it. You know it. You feel it swallowing up where you're just like, oh, you like that. At the end of the first round, you're just like, man, that hurts.

Starting point is 00:03:35 Like, you just sit on the stool and I didn't want to sit down in the stool. So this is like the exact same. Cobra, I mean, the fight went five rounds when came down to decision. How do you fight the next four rounds with a broken foot? Is it the elbow hit the elbow? Land right on the right elbow, the top of the foot. You know, and they're telling me that

Starting point is 00:03:53 I think it was the vernacular or something. I can't remember the exact terminology the doctor was telling me yesterday, but he's like, yeah, you probably have a fracture in your vernacular and vernacular or something. One of those bones down there, there's like 27-metre tarsals in your foot, so it's tough to know which one.

Starting point is 00:04:08 How do you fight the rest of fights broken? You've even stand up with the broken foot, much less thrown punches and kicks and grappling, everything that was going on, how does that work? It's tough, you know, it limits your mobility. Like I couldn't really move after that. I was kind of stuck in place, and you know, I was just trying to make sure

Starting point is 00:04:22 that I could get through the fight. I never quit, you know, you gotta, you know, I could get through the fight. I never quit. I always channeled the strength of the first responders in our military, because that's the clock that I was cut from. My grandfather flew in the Korean and Vietnam war, so he's looking down on me. He's not going to be happy unless I fight to the end, fight to the death.

Starting point is 00:04:40 And that's my mentality when I go into the octagon. It's going to be killed every time. Well, you have that reputation. Your pain tolerance on when you're going on these fights. And by the way, so if you have the pain here and Leon's throwing those left kicks to the back of your, because you know that part I was marked on your, what is it, you're right to, right rear, right,

Starting point is 00:05:00 right to hamstrings, when you see that whole thing getting bruised up, which pain is a worse pain? Is it the left ankle or is it the thigh? Oh, it was the left ankle for sure. Not even close. Yeah, I was compensated on it. I wasn't really able to step on it. So that's why he was landing a couple leg kicks on my right thigh

Starting point is 00:05:15 because my left foot was broken. So I was kind of putting all my weight on my right thigh. And that's terrible. When I started towards the end of the fight, I was like, you know, I just deal with the pain and start lifting up your right leg and start checking some of these kicks, you know? And he didn't start kicking after the fourth round because he started feeling that I was catching his timing

Starting point is 00:05:32 with the kicks and he didn't want to break his leg on my knees, so. Now, let me ask, does he know? Do you think he knows or he would have no clue that you broke your left hand? Like, he doesn't know that that's happening. Because as a fighter, you know, are you reading the other guy's pain, flinch, eye movement to say, yeah, it looks like it hurts. Because as a fighter, are you reading the other guys,

Starting point is 00:05:45 pain, flinch, eye, movement to say, yeah, it looks like it hurts. It looks like, because you know, you've seen fights where guy breaks his wrist and boxing, and he just doesn't throw it anymore, and you know to go for, or you know, the ribs are, you know, some happen here, so you keep attacking it. Is he reading that you're in pain?

Starting point is 00:06:00 Do you think he knew that you had that pain? Now he didn't know, because I'm good at masking and not showing weakness and showing that I had the pain. And I learned early in my career that I thought when we go to the round at the end of the round, like we're in a vacuum seal and no one in the world can hear it. Our coach has given us advice and no one's going to hear anything. But I had said something in my corner. I was like, hey, I think I have an injury.

Starting point is 00:06:20 And they went back to the other corner on the broadcasts. They were like, oh, he just said he had an injury. He said this is going on so they attacked that weakness So I had learned that no matter how I feel coming back to the end of the round when I'm sitting on my stool Like don't say anything to the coach even to your own guys. Yeah, even to my own guys because the cameras are watching everything You're saying I got it. Wow, so now I just had to keep it Wow, what shitty situation to imagine like you have I would have I would be, and you're like,

Starting point is 00:06:45 I proc, you're just like, you're like a secret in there. Yeah. I mean, that's, but that's the fight. That's how your corners, your trainers, your coaches, they had no idea you better broken foot the entire fight. They had no idea until I told them afterwards when I was limping backstage, you're like, do what happened.

Starting point is 00:06:59 I was like, the first kick that I threw landed on his elbow and they're like, why don't you tell us? Yeah, exactly. Because I've learned in prior fights, the whole world's going to see that and they're just going to go tell them on the broadcast. You see how quick social media is these days. So they can literally get that information within seconds

Starting point is 00:07:13 of seeing it on the broadcast. So, you know, it's the first time in my career, I didn't sit on the stool after every round, after the five rounds. I just stayed standing up because I could feel my foot swelling up and I didn't want to sit down and get comfortable. I wanted to stay standing up and just dig down deep to get through the fight now Let me ask you fighting Kim Leon Edwards

Starting point is 00:07:33 And as a fan watching them right not a technical fighter. I can't see you know I'm not a technical where I've been in your world and I can kind of read what's really going on Yeah, from a famed perspective He's not a guy that's gonna sell out to Irina. Okay, people are not going to see him sell out to Irina. He doesn't talk, he's very quiet to himself. I think he's Jamaican, if I'm not mistaken. Is he Jamaican?

Starting point is 00:07:54 He's a very friendly guy. He seems like a just chill guy. But fighting against him. We had Usman on here, two days ago, right? He takes Usman out, I think two times, right? When he had, let me see the records here. Yeah, back to back, then it's you, Matee is, okay, you know, Dosanio is both of you.

Starting point is 00:08:15 You did dos, Dosanio is as well. Yeah. He's had some fights. What's unique about, what's unique about Edwards? His style of fighting, purely his style of fighting. I mean, yeah, purely his style of fighting because if you're talking about his personality, he has no redeeming qualities. The guy, I mean, there's more charisma and that wet mop in the corner of the room.

Starting point is 00:08:33 So I mean, the guy is just unlikeable. He doesn't, he doesn't bring anything to the table as far as fighting goes. So in the fight, you know, he's a well-rounded fighter, but there's nothing special. He's not like a world class in anywhere. He's just pretty good everywhere. So he's not the best fighter you've gone up against. No, he's not the best fighter. Who's the best guy you've gone up against?

Starting point is 00:08:53 Yeah, the best guy I've gone up against is, you know, probably Usman, you know, he's a well-rounded fighter. He's a good wrestler. He's a knockout artist. He's a guy who could put you out with one punch. So, you know, that guy, I would say, is a lot more dangerous threat. And I fought him when, you know, he was in his absolute prime a couple years ago when he was number one pound for pounds. So that was the best guy I've ever fought, you know, and, you know, he was way more dangerous than Leon. Look, I just got this five four days. I don't have to scratch on my face. I mean, I doubled

Starting point is 00:09:19 the strike count on him. You know, he got a couple leg kicks. That's how he won. He's a couple leg kicks on me. And that was because I was compensated because I was favoring my right leg because my left foot was broken so you mentioned uh I think you're on Jesse waters that you think that they basically took this decision from you because you said you support Donald Trump and that caused the fight we all We all, two part question. We asked Usman, what's more important these days in UFC, the product or the marketing, really? Like how good of a fighter are you, or how good of a marketer are you?

Starting point is 00:09:53 No doubt you're one of the best in both. Edwards, with all due respect, he beat you, right? So what's the reality for someone like Edwards? Is it, he's just a good product, horrible marketer. It's the Trump thing, was stolen from you, kind of a thing, get the analogy. Where is he on this? Where are you on this with all that being said?

Starting point is 00:10:13 Yeah, you know, I don't think I was beat last week and I think I gained a lot more in the fans, see the truth of the fighter and the marketer that I am, the entertainment aspect that I bring to this sport. You know, I make it fun for the fans. They pay their hard-earned money to watch us. So, you know, as far as Leon, no one was watching or tuning into the fight to see Leon.

Starting point is 00:10:31 It was either the people that absolutely loved me or he was just barring my haters for a night. It wasn't like he actually brought in the extra fans. But is that sustainable? Meaning, if he just wins every fight, I'm not saying that he's undefeated. Yeah. If he just shuts his mouth, gets to work, but wins, what's wrong with that?

Starting point is 00:10:50 That's not enough, you know? I mean, anybody can just win, you know, but you need to, if you're really confident in your skills and you really think you're this all-time great, you know, you should talk about it. You should start telling people this. You should start bringing animosity to this fight, and getting people excited to watch these fights

Starting point is 00:11:06 because they're paying their hard earned money for this paper view. How are you gonna sell a paper view if you're not saying one thing to the guy and you're just sitting there quiet. No one wants to see two guys that are like, oh, I respect you. What's wrong with that?

Starting point is 00:11:17 Honour, MMA, I love you. You know, let's do it. And 100% he's right. When you're seeing a, when you're seeing, like I thought, Mayweather and Con Conor their press conference is probably the best one of all time It was pass clapping them on the head back pack and all that stuff I thought I was the best best press conference of all time and there's been a few of them right like that Daniel Cormere and John Jones the interview phenomenal of your Connor Nick the S is like, so, you know, can you count to 10?

Starting point is 00:11:46 He says, we count to five, right? Or hey, we're gonna talk about money. Hey, you can take this one out. I'll ask you questions about money. That was great. Right, those moments that you had. And then some of them is, again, purely from a fan perspective. Some of them, you know, it's real.

Starting point is 00:12:03 Some of them, you know, you're selling. Some of them, you know, you're selling. Yeah, you kind of like, okay, because the other guy's not responding to any of it. Like, when Conor did the Muslim thing, I think with him and Kabib, when they were going back and forth, and then you saw Kabib, the guy says, hey, Salam alaikum,

Starting point is 00:12:18 you know, and by the way, Conor, congratulations on your proper 12, and he says, hey, you can't say that, and then say thank you to alcohol. What do something about it? These are moments that are built to fight. But I want to ask you this question because I actually enjoy your performance.

Starting point is 00:12:33 I enjoy how you're putting on a show and doing what you're doing. But, you know, the comments made about the father. I just want to ask to see what you're going to say. Comments made about the father. Even Dana comes back and says, look, you guys can say whatever trash talk you want to do when it comes up to family, stay out of it.

Starting point is 00:12:48 Connor's done it with Dustin, wife, you did it with Leon's father and Leon's A. He's a South part, right? Because we threw it. It was perfectly accurate. I don't even know what he threw out your face. He threw a water bottle. He threw a water bottle. I'm like, how's he that accurate?

Starting point is 00:13:01 Yeah, I can't figure that out. That I'm like, this guy's a South part. I got it. This makes sense. So, what is the limit? Yeah. Do you feel bad when you make those comments or you're like, no can figure that out. That I'm like, this guy's a South Park. I got it. Yeah, it makes sense. So, what is the limit? Do you feel bad when you make those comments or you're like, no, my job is to sell and I'm a showman? Um, you know, I'm, honestly, is everything with me, you know, like the truth is always the

Starting point is 00:13:16 things that sting the most to these fighters out there. So, you know, I'm not saying this guy's on the same level of like a Hitler or just someone like that, but when are we going to celebrate someone who's had such a terrible past, you know, the guy was literally a sex trafficker or the guy was literally caught up with drug lords and and who are you talking about? I'm talking about Leon's father. I mean, he has a troubled criminal past. I mean, there's legitimate facts that he did, you know, like I'm'm not going to hide the truth. And I'm not going to feel sorry for someone who, you know, put torment and so much pain in people's lives. You know, there's a lot of victims left over from Leon's father, you know, whether it

Starting point is 00:13:53 was the women that he sex traffic, whether it was the people that he sold drugs to. I mean, it's just, I'm not going to feel bad for someone like that. So, you know, it is what it is. That's life, you know, I'm just being honest with him. You know, I'm, he's not a good person. And you're doubling down. You're not even, you know, pulling back on this. You're doubling down on his father.

Starting point is 00:14:12 I'm doubling down. Why would I feel bad for us? Anything I say about someone that has such a criminal and put so much pain in people's lives, you know, I'm not gonna feel bad for someone like that. Just like Hitler, he was a terrible person, man. And comparing his that to Hitler. I'm not comparing him to Hitler, but I'm saying it feel bad for someone like that. Just like Hitler. He was a terrible person, man. Comparing is that to Hitler. I'm not comparing him to Hitler,

Starting point is 00:14:26 but I'm saying it's that same level of bad guy. Like the guy, the guy sold drugs. He's sex, sex, sex trafficking. And you know this in this public. Is this public information? Public information. And it's crazy, there's nobody. I mean, just hearing the comment,

Starting point is 00:14:38 you're like, oh, dude, you're saying his dad's in hell. Nobody really knows. I didn't know about the history of his dad. I don't know if that was sex trafficking people and so on drugs. I mean, if that's public information, so maybe let me ask a different question, because, you know, we run a sales organization and we have meetings that are very, very intense and call out and all this stuff.

Starting point is 00:14:58 And we have a rule, call out whatever you want, don't hit family, don't hit spouse, you're fine, okay? And they'll be the shit talking that takes place. Now obviously, there's no fights, it's not a real fight that we're talking about. Do you get a call and say, hey, you crossed the line. Like you can't say that again. Or in UFC, no one's gonna call you to tell you anything.

Starting point is 00:15:17 It's just, if you wanna say it, say it, nothing's off the table. Is that kinda how the culture is in UFC? Or will you get a call at times? Yeah, I mean, you'll definitely get a call at times if you're racist or you go out to someone's religion, but I would never go after those two things, you know, I all expose things that need to be exposed because it's the truth in his honesty. Like you can look up the public records about his dad and it's not my fault. He's the one to put him in the limelight in the first place and try to make it a sympathetic figure.

Starting point is 00:15:46 Oh, I lost my father, oh, this and that. And they made it feel like, oh, let's give Leon sympathy for this. That's not something you should give someone sympathy for. My dad was doing things like that. I would call him out on that too. I'd be like, dude, he probably deserves to be six feet under because he did a lot of bad things to people in this life.

Starting point is 00:16:04 So I'm not going to feel bad or celebrate that person like, is a hero, because that guy is not a hero. He's a villain. He's a terrible person. He did terrible things. Apparently he was shot and killed when Leon was 13. So, how much do you think this had adverse effect on you? Because Leon said he was completely enraged, emotional crying.

Starting point is 00:16:21 This is after he threw the water bottle. Obviously there was a little tussle right there and He said that you know it breaks my heart that he uses my father as entertainment and he said About you he said that he's a competitor, but he's a dirty human being. This is his response to you So with all that being said like have you guys spoken after the fight? How does it work? Does there any apologies? Or it like, fuck you, go to hell? No, I mean, I didn't break his bank account. I might have broke his feelings. He might be hurt, but even Dana White said after I said that,

Starting point is 00:16:52 the pay-per-views jump 25% instantly. This is Dana's words in quotes. So whether you want to say it's for entertainment and for selling pay-per-views, I made a Leon a lot more money just talking about it. So no matter what you want to think of it, whether good or bad, you know, I put more money in Leon's bank account

Starting point is 00:17:10 and he should be thanking me for that. Kobe, how much of this is? Because, you know, like, too short. Not too short. Is it too short? Yeah, too short. You know, the rapper too short. Back in the days, I don't know if you remember too short.

Starting point is 00:17:23 So, too short, you know, every record he would do is that this is my final album, it's mostly, no, no, this is the final, about 12 times it was always we're buying his final album. But it's a great marketing. Another guy that was a great market, he says when he would hang out with Tupac,

Starting point is 00:17:38 he says on any given day, you had no idea what personality would show up, right? One minute, it would be the party guy. Let's go, girls, let's go, getting, you know, one minute is the philosopher. Did you know the Hagellian dialectic and did you know what they're gonna do? One minute is the revolutionary guy.

Starting point is 00:17:56 You know, I was like, we're gonna go take over the world and it's not fair what they're doing to our people. One minute, it was the gangster, right? One minute, it was the artist, right? So you didn't know who that person was gonna be on any given day. Do you feel you have a little bit of that

Starting point is 00:18:10 because like Usman sees you at the airport, you guys running to each other? What a nice guy. Talk to me, gentlemen the whole night. And then if I sue in the airport again, I'm gonna, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right? Is that an act or is it, you know, you don't know what personality of Kobe's gonna show up

Starting point is 00:18:30 on any given day? Which one do you think it is? Because sometimes creatives have multiple personalities. It's not just one thing that it is. Which one do you think is you? No, there's definitely no act or personality with me. I just turn it up to 11 when I get into business and around a camera.

Starting point is 00:18:44 I'm not gonna be nice, you know. We're getting locked in the cage to kill that person. That's what the people wanna celebrate. act or personality with me, I just turn it up to 11 when I get into business and around a camera. I'm not going to be nice. You know, we're getting locked in the cage to kill that person. That's what the people want to celebrate. They want to see bloodlust. They want to see fighters getting broken bones and sent to the hospital. So why am I going to feel bad about some words that I'm saying? And the words I'm saying, I believe they're true.

Starting point is 00:19:00 And I stand behind those with conviction. So I'm not going to feel bad for exposing the truth to the world. And people are sensitive. You know, get a helmet like my friend can't just call it. Can't it so and says get a helmet and big deal get over it. So, you know, there's no personality. I'm just not afraid to speak the truth. And when it's time to do business and it's fight week and the cameras are on, I'm, you know,

Starting point is 00:19:21 I'm going to say things that I feel are true. And that opponent has a chance to go in the octagon, do whatever you want to me. He had, he had 25 minutes to do whatever he wanted to take his fresh resistance out on me legally. And he wasn't able to do anything. There's not a scratch on my face. It was, it was an easy fight. I can't believe they paid me that much money to, to go fight that guy. I got a follow up question for you. But we, before we do, let's go to the sponsor here, American Heart for Gold.

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Starting point is 00:20:59 I can't call him. I can't call him. I can't call him. And next thing, you know, he gets he'd from there, right? And then he calls out fake news, calls out Acosta, calls out everybody, and he's non-stop about it, right? Okay. When you do that, you know, you know,

Starting point is 00:21:15 certain people when you joke with them, and they're sarcastic towards you, but then all of a sudden you're sarcastic towards them, and they're kind of like, hurt? Wait a minute, bro. What's wrong with you? Good, dishing it, but you're not good taking it, right? How much of it is also for you where it's like,

Starting point is 00:21:31 you know they're gonna say stuff to you, right? After the fight, you know, he didn't look good. It's time to retire. Michael Chandler, he's gotta be in prelims moving forward as fights no longer, main fight, you know. Patty is saying to fight seam in the streets, I'm gonna, you know, whatever.

Starting point is 00:21:43 And then Strickland talking about, I can't believe what he just said and Strickland wanted to say things to you. Yeah. What is your reaction? Because you're immediate reaction right now, small on your face. Do you get off of it? Are you like, I'm getting the world to react to me or you're not even thinking about it? Yeah, I mean, I don't really think about it, but obviously my first reaction to it now is just laughing because all those people, there's no substance there. They're talking to talk. They're not going to walk the walk. You know, Patty, they gave him two hair when had addicts to fight back to back. And he didn't even beat the last one. He fought this guy, Jared Gordon, a legit hair when

Starting point is 00:22:16 addict. And even when the fight, the world knew he lost that fight. So, you know, if he didn't have a bull cut in an accent, nobody would care about Patty. That's the only reason they like him is a bull cut in accent. He's not even a good fighter He'll never be a top 30 fighter the closest he'll ever get to fighting for a world title is if he got on his knees and came and sniffed my jock Facts, but he's a good marker. The truth. How about smart? He just has a bull cut in accent He's not even a black man. He is entertaining. He has a bull cut in accent. He's got a cold, he has an accent so hard. He thought he was from Ireland.

Starting point is 00:22:48 I'm like, no, he's from England, bro. I'm in a same shit, bro. So wild. But, you know, he cut the bull cut. And I always got like braids. Oh, well, I mean, for the fight, no, they get quarrels for the, for the fight to the horn rows, my apologies. I don't want to, you know, call for a pro.

Starting point is 00:23:00 Yeah. Chandler said, you know, pre-links and stricklin is, you know, he, he, he, he, he just straight up stopped. He wanted to make a comment about what you said about Leon's father. Yeah, I mean, look at the stuff that Sean Strickland does. He should worry about figure out his justice system situation over in Vegas, pissed a weapon, some guy in the middle of the street and almost shooting the guy dead that was just walking around drunk around his neighborhood. So the guy's a train wreck. That's the type of guy that might do some Eddie Guerrero stuff to his family in the future.

Starting point is 00:23:28 You got to be careful. I don't know. You know, that guy's, he's brain dead. He's been hitting the head too many times. So he, you know, I think he's going to have some, some problems in the future. And then Michael Chandler, who? I mean, the guy was getting knocked down,

Starting point is 00:23:40 and bow it to the guy's a complete scrub. What's his UFC record? Like one in four. Like we're talking about that. My win percentage in the UFC is like over 90%. Like it's just, you know, I'm in all time great in this division. I've done things in this division

Starting point is 00:23:53 that people aren't ever gonna do. I mean, I'm the only fighter to ever go to the White House and hang out with the sitting president. I'm the only one to ever get the first family front row. I'm the only one to ever have, you know, a president out there supporting him, dapping me up before I walk in the octagon. So he can keep talking all he wants, but there's no substance. Another guy that's just all talking, no walk.

Starting point is 00:24:12 Can I ask you a question? So, um, Kobe, the, when it comes to Trump, and I'm pretty sure with you, it's how they, you know, love or hate. There's nobody. I don't, I've never met somebody that's just like, yeah, Trump, you know, I'm cool with them. It's how they love or hate. What, what was the moment for you, Kobe? Because I know, I know what it is, what it was for me about the country and the movement and the voice. I'm not saying it could have been anybody, but what was that moment for you? Or you're like, oh shit, like this, this is, this president is, this is who I, I connect

Starting point is 00:24:39 with. And then that phone call, you be a tyrone woodley, you're sitting in there, post fight, you're, you're getting interviewed and all of a sudden somebody comes and gives you a phone and it's the president of the United States is Trump. What was that moment for you, Copa, and how does that feel sitting in an interview in the president of the United States wants to talk to you? I mean, the moment where I really was just like, man, that's so admirable, was just seeing

Starting point is 00:25:02 that he gave up his, you know, rich and wealthy lifestyle to come fight for America. The guy could be having his toes in the sand with mom, his heat has given him my ties on the beach every single day, but he doesn't want to do that. He's the only president in history who his net worth is went down after being in office. So who else can say that? All these other guys like the Biden's, you know, the, the, the Clintons, you know, the, their net worth goes up substantially though, bomb as they go up substantially after they're in office,

Starting point is 00:25:28 they're, they use all these politicians, all these lobbyists and they just make money from. So that's when I respected Trump the most, just seeing that he was willing to give up his lifestyle, his net worth, his, his, you know, his great business tactics that he has to save America, you know, to save against all these communist swamp creatures that are in DC right now. So, you know, that's why I gained the most respect. And just to see all the loyalty that he showed me, I mean, he's calling me after a fight, you know, he's giving me advice before fights, he, you know, invite me over to his house at Mar-a-Lago to have dinner like before my fights, you know, just the amount of loyalty

Starting point is 00:26:02 that he showed me, like just some nobody fighter, like he's the most famous person on earth. He doesn't have to call me in waste his time. He has the busiest schedule of any man on earth right now. So just seeing how loyalty, loyal he is to me, just shows, he's just a regular dude, just the guy next door that respects people. And if you show him loyalty,

Starting point is 00:26:20 he's gonna show it to you in return. Does that, when you know that he's in the audience, Kobe, does that make you like, because I get like, if these guys come to see me perform, I know on the back of my head doing stand up, I'm like, okay, I know exactly, Pat's, is he laughing, is Adam laughing? You know, I see Rob shiny head.

Starting point is 00:26:35 I'm like, you know what I mean? I'm looking around. I'm booing in the back. Yeah, Adam is throwing tomatoes. But when you're fighting, bro, and you know where he's at, everybody knows where Trump is at. Does that feel, does that amp you up that you know that this guy's there?

Starting point is 00:26:47 It does. It does amp me up, but it's also a lot of pressure. You don't, you don't want to let that guy down, you know, and especially all the things he's done for me and my career and done for this country. I mean, he's single handedly fought back against the swamp, swamp and exposed all the corruption of the Democrats, you know, these guys will go to any link to take back this country. They don't want America to be free and fair. They don't want the people to be in control of America.

Starting point is 00:27:14 They want to have all these communist stuff. You know, look at how they shut down a country for a fake pandemic, just so they could do control the male imbalance. And then, you know, now they're letting our board to just be completely wide open so they can use those illegals to vote for know, now they're letting our board to just be completely wide open so they can use those illegals to vote for them, but they're still losing in the polls. And, you know, weaponizing the justice system,

Starting point is 00:27:31 that's their world dictator type thing. So, you know, Trump's the only man standing between them in America, and, you know, he loves America more than he loves himself. And more than he loves his family. Like, that's how much he cares about America and change in America forever. So we need America back, we need Donald Trump back in office.

Starting point is 00:27:49 He's gonna restore democracy in America. Colby, I gotta tell you, bro. What you're doing with the Trump of the Maga, brilliant. I tell you why. We were at UFC in Miami. Yeah, one was at this past summer, a couple months. Let me tell you, this is the first time I've been to a UFC fight, okay? I've been in that heat arena a thousand times.

Starting point is 00:28:11 All of a sudden we hear what? Ah! Yeah, they don't know. They don't know. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. What's going on? Donald Trump just showed up. Crowds going nuts.

Starting point is 00:28:21 Yeah. Oh, shit. So at that moment I was like, oh shit. UFC loves them. Some Trump. Okay, it was impressive. So I know you're saying that, possibly you being a Trump supporter calls you this fight,

Starting point is 00:28:38 but from a marketing standpoint, from an alignment standpoint, for who your brand is, this is on brand, right? So never apologize for that. Whether you, people like Trump not trying to, this has helped your brand no doubt. I don't know any other UFC fighters marketing, make America great again like you.

Starting point is 00:28:54 So, but I, but I think he's a hundred percent truble. Oh, I don't think it's an act. I think he is zero percent and act, right? So number one, when are you running for Congress? Number two, if Trump wins, you're gonna take a position as White House. But most importantly, are you the Donald Trump of the UFC?

Starting point is 00:29:14 Yeah, I do believe I'm the Donald Trump of the UFC. He's my biggest role model. He's my mentor and he's someone that I really look up to. So I try and model my career after a lot of things that he's done. And I definitely would like to run for Congress in a few years. I think I'd be the perfect fighter. I'm not a guy that's going to sell out to the establishment.

Starting point is 00:29:32 I'm a self-made man from nothing. I came from a blue collar family in Oregon, who had absolutely nothing who lived in the trailer parks. And I'm a multi-million dollar athlete. So I think that I can do great things for this Republican and conservative movement that other guys won't be able to do because they don't have the funds and means to do it. So, you know, I appreciate everything Donald Trump's done for me. I'm a true believer. I'll

Starting point is 00:29:55 die fighting for that man. Like, I've given up my platform for him. I'm completely shadow band on one of the platforms. You know, that's the biggest platform. I'm not going to talk about it. It doesn't deserve it. But, you know, I even had the UFC try and reach out to him, be like, hey, why is he shadow-band? And they won't even tell him. They won't even, you came to search me in some of the search bars. The only one that people can find me out is really X,

Starting point is 00:30:15 because you all must, because restored free speech in America. So, you know, I can't say the same for Zuckerberg. He's done some pretty nasty things. He believes in communism and, you know, he's in kudhudz with China as well. And I mean, he's done some pretty nasty things. He believes in communism and, you know, he's in kitthoods with China as well. And I mean, he put what $500 million into the last election, which is crazy for,

Starting point is 00:30:33 for mail-in ballots and all these places. He, that's, I mean, that's, Zuckerberg spent, well, is it about $500 million on the, that's absolutely, and by the way, you know what he is. He's a Democrat. So where do you think that that money and all that thing was going for? Look, can't even find my profile.

Starting point is 00:30:50 I've had over a million followers for this. Oh, and this is on Instagram right now if you type in Colby Culling Time, your name will pop up. Well, can't find all my fan pages. Stop it, dude. I was just kidding. But put in your actual, like put it together. So it's not, no, but you have to put it together.

Starting point is 00:31:04 Why do you have to put it together? I don't not pickable. No, but you have to put it together. Why do you have to put it together? I don't know. Missed and go miss the end. Just go like Kobe Covey to like almost there. So you guys felt the whole entire name. Yeah, I know he's right. Just tagging you before I came in here Kobe. It wouldn't let me find you. I'm like, I had to put it in twice. I'm like, where the hell is Kobe? When did that start? That started four years ago when I put up my picture with Donald Trump is my head profile picture by the way, you know

Starting point is 00:31:26 If I type in look at Patrick my home. So let's just see you put Yeah, that's the first one can we do a quick little thing right here? Like people don't realize how three like super famous names and see how it pops up Put put Dana put Dana like to see not even though right there pops up. Dana, Dana White pops up. Boom, boom. Unbelievable. That's it.

Starting point is 00:31:50 Try something like going to complete different space, go to Anthony Edwin's place. And all my profiles that have 500 followers. Unbelievable. Type in Anthony Edwards, like, uh, uh, right there. He just pops up. He had to do with Anthony, he pops up. Yeah. The blue jubmer.

Starting point is 00:32:04 Why, why do you think that is there? Do gentleman. Why do you think that is, dude? Do you think it's purely political? It's purely political. It's completely their agenda. They're trying to silence free speech. They don't want anybody that has, that opposes their narrative, you know? And if you go, if you don't believe everything

Starting point is 00:32:19 that the liberals say and you don't believe that it's flaming y'all, even though it's shit and you shove shit down your throw, then no sense of you. They will not allow free speech in America, and that's what our youth and our kids need to see. Like, this is the stuff they need to see. They don't need to have all this woke,

Starting point is 00:32:33 CRT, critical race theory, agenda shove down their throats and not be able to see the other side of it, the Republican conservative side. So, you know, it is what is, I'm glad, I would stand up, I don't need social media to know that I'm famous or know that I'm standing for what is right. I know I'm standing for what's right because look, I don't even like really talk so much political. I'm just showing my support for Trump.

Starting point is 00:32:53 That's all I'm doing is, you know, I respect Trump as a businessman, as a man, as a father, as a family guy. The guy's just a great person overall. And look, I put up a picture with them, and that's why they're censoring me. They won't allow my profile to be viewed by the masses. They want a shadow made me, so just discuss it, it's just picture. Yeah, that's, I wonder who else they're doing that with. You know, the fact that somebody can't find the name right off the bat and have to type the whole thing,

Starting point is 00:33:19 and I have to put it together for it to pull up. Yeah. Deeply concerning. Okay, let me, let me go to, you know, a couple of things here with while we're on the topic. Lebron. Lebron Waxson, you made a couple comments on it on what he did. Yeah. And I know you talked about it with full-send NELKBOYS, all those guys. And, you know, your, you know,

Starting point is 00:33:38 Waxson, I think it's a kid's a game or something like that. And he grabs a seat. Doesn't even stand up. You're thinking, maybe after you get to your seat, then you're going to stand up. At least pay some kind of respect. Yeah. Nothing. And you know, you see that.

Starting point is 00:33:52 Why is that important? So maybe a person on the other side is going to say, like, you just chose to sit down. Why is that important to somebody on the left, right, in the middle for the biggest star in basketball to stand up during the national anthem. Yeah, why it's important is because the place that he's made all his money and his billion dollar net worth is the country that he's sitting down for that that national anthem the the fallen heroes of the families that

Starting point is 00:34:19 supported his freedom here in America so he could chase his dreams and have his opportunity in the NBA He would be nothing without this country. Try and go make that money over in China. Try and make that money in Korea and all these other countries that aren't free. No, you couldn't do it. So the fact that he's just spitting on the face of all our service members, all our military veterans past and present, it's the most despicable thing I've ever seen in my life. The guy is just a shill. Why do you think he's not, you think it's intentional? It's the most despicable thing I've ever seen in my life. The guy is just, you know, he's just a shill.

Starting point is 00:34:45 Why do you think he's not, you think it's intentional? It's intentional. Why do you think he's not standing up? Because, you know, he's paid him off or by a Chinese, he's a Chinese finger puppet, you know, he's got all his sweatshops over in China where he makes his hundreds of millions of dollars off merchandise.

Starting point is 00:34:59 So he's told to, to, you know, be able to muscle on him and not talk. Don't talk about that. He's told, do you think that's him, meaning, you know, you know, the avamazal on him and not talk. Don't talk about. He's told you think that's him, meaning, you know, you know, you know, because I'm, there's a lot of guys in the NBA that are, you know, but you somebody can say, well, you know, some owners, Mark Cuban defended this. This is up. He still stands up. There's a lot of guys that are still paid by China that still stand up. Why do you think he's not standing up? I think he's just completely paid in law for and I just don't think he's not standing up? I think he's just completely paid in Balfour. And I just don't think he's intelligent enough

Starting point is 00:35:27 to formulate his own response to why he's not. He just, it's a straight money going to his bank account. You think he loves America? No, he hates America. He sits down every time there's an actual anthem playing. He shits on all our first responders. He's literally called hits on our first responders, the people that protect us and keep us free.

Starting point is 00:35:45 Oh, please BLM, oh, they're so bad. But then anytime there's any situation, oh, please help me help my James family come protect us and make sure, you know, none of my crazy fans come after me. But then he'll go on on the internet and just talk about how police are so bad. And you know, who talk about a 1% of a 1% of the situation and trying despise them like they're the bad guys when our first responders are law enforcement

Starting point is 00:36:11 is our heroes and our backbone of our country in America. Has he ever given a positive shout out to cops? Nope. I just saw this tweet from 2021. Remember when he deleted the tweets about police shooting at McKeop Bryant, and LeBron James is inciting violence on Ohio police. This is the school. What was the tweet that he had there?

Starting point is 00:36:32 I'm so damn tired of seeing black people killed by police. I took the tweet down because it's being used to create more hate. This isn't about one officer. It's about an entirety of a system. I wonder, has he ever gone up and say, hey, I just wanted to thank everybody here, the service. I want to thank the military personnel.

Starting point is 00:36:49 I want to thank our officers, our firefighters, our first responders. Absolutely not, Pat. Have you ever heard them say that? Absolutely not. And, Koby, you hit the nail on the head. Just, and it just goes to show how much China, and I've said this on multiple podcasts.

Starting point is 00:37:02 He's obviously owned by China. A lot of the athletes here are who's the the wrestler and that John Cena John Cena said something sticking up for the poor people of Taiwan. And then he had to say an apology in Mandarin because he knows that that's the that's the hand the feet that which he somehow speaks fluently fluently. But and the mind you could do that. And I've said this so many times, China owns our asses. They fly spy balloons, they own, they own Biden,

Starting point is 00:37:30 they own LeBron. And bro, the beauty about this country and Kobe, I'm a veteran, Pats a veteran, you have the freedom here to do that. You can do that, you can sit there. He can make snow angels on the court, but guess what, you're a shitty person for doing it. I have zero respect.

Starting point is 00:37:46 Okay, he's an athlete. People are like, well, you gotta respect this game. I don't give a shit about the game. I'm not even a basketball fan, but you're a shitty person to go in there while everybody's standing up and respecting the national anthem and you're sitting there. That's a, he's letting the world know.

Starting point is 00:37:58 He's an example to kids. That's all I'm just gonna say. Kids are watching and going, hey, if LeBron James and people don't realize, how many millions Pat, how many millions of children in this country know and they see that and they go, oh, you know what, he's doing it to hell with America. We're evil.

Starting point is 00:38:12 By the way, for some people that are watching this, who are diehard LeBron fans, okay? They're like, oh, you guys are being unfair. I would love to see a video clip of him given a shout out and thanking cops or military firefighters or military personnel. I'd love to see it. I've never seen it.

Starting point is 00:38:29 Ever. Yeah. Especially when he uses their service so constantly, you know, it's police security. Right. Protect his family. So the guy puts a ball in a hoop. You play a kids game. You're not.

Starting point is 00:38:40 You're not. You haven't solved a world hunger. You haven't solved cancer. Well, stop acting like you're so righteous and you're perfect. Dude, that guy's not a role model. The role models are military guys like you who fought for our freedoms and defended our country's land. You know, first responders who, you know, protect our communities,

Starting point is 00:38:56 protect our, you know, all the big people in this country. And those are the, those are the role models that our kids should be looking up to. Not these athletes who put a ball in it, who, how does that make you so special? And those are the real monitors that our kids should be looking up to, not these athletes who put a ball in a hoop. How does that make you so special? Colby, maybe there's a deeper narrative here, you know, because right now I'm picturing Colby versus LeBron, right?

Starting point is 00:39:13 But I'm going deeper. I'm seeing UFC versus the NBA. What do I mean? So we all remember during 2020, during the bubble, no league was more woke or social justice warriors than the NBA. Everyone like literally changed the name on their jerseys to whatever cause they had end races, the current thing, whatever it was.

Starting point is 00:39:35 I think a couple guys had arm with her. I don't know what's going on out there. But you have see, so they, I mean, even Golden State Warriors when they won the championship, they wouldn't go meet Trump in the White House. So I think it's fair to say that the NBA is left. I don't see Trump going to NBA games. I see Trump showing up to UFC fights.

Starting point is 00:39:54 I see a lot of UFC guys, you know, even Moss Vidal, who's not your buddy these days, we can touch on that at this point. He loves him some Trump. And a lot of guys are, kind of, I assume are in that camp. So from a deeper perspective, the UFC, the mentality, the ideology there versus the NBA, what they stand for the relationship with China, not going to visit the White House, Adam Silver versus Dana White is a bigger

Starting point is 00:40:17 compelling story here. Give us the bigger narrative of NBA versus UFC. Yeah, the bigger narrative is, you know, Dana Whitehunter Campbell, the guys that run the UFC, their free speech absolutist, you know, they believe in us not being muzzle, we should be able to say whatever they want, you know, and the NBA, Adam Silver tells them, nope, you're gonna stay, you're gonna say the left narrative and that's, there's only gonna be one way

Starting point is 00:40:38 that we're gonna talk about because those are the guys that are paying our bills, those are the ones that we have our merchandise deals with, those are the ones that we have our TV deals with over in China. So, you know, NBA is not a free league. Like I have guys that have reached out to me on Instagram from the NBA that are like, man, we appreciate what you're standing up for Colby, but we can't say the same thing because then we lose our livelihood.

Starting point is 00:40:59 Then we won't have our checks to pay for our houses and pay for our food on the table for our families. So, I feel bad for these guys where they're not allowed to express their real thoughts and feelings. They have to listen to what, you know, the narrative that shoved down their throat from the left in the NBA and that there's one way. And if you go up against it, then you're going to lose your job. I mean, look at what they did to Kyrie Irving.

Starting point is 00:41:20 They painted him out in the street like he was the biggest villain of all time. The guys just, you know, believe in free speech, believe speech believe in you know his own, you know right to choose what he should do with his body my body My choice he's not like a guy like Travis Kelsey out there who's believing in oh I'm paid off by fires or guys get two shots at the same time That's the healthiest thing you could ever do with your life dude two shots shots I mean I didn't get the vaccine. I don't believe in vaccine But I'm not against someone that does believe in vaccine. If you did get the vaccine, you should probably just get one

Starting point is 00:41:48 of the time, because if there's an adverse and wrong effect in it, then how you're going to know which one is the cause of it if you're getting two at the same time. That's irresponsible. Travis Kelsey is one of the biggest pieces of shit of all time, the fact that he's advising people to do that. You know, he's not doing it. He's just telling people to do it because he's getting paid

Starting point is 00:42:04 off and bought four by Pfizer. It's disgusting. And how much you think Taylor Swift has is because Taylor Swift is sort of the darling of the left. Dude, this guy won two Super Bowls. Yeah. He seems like a rugged badass, dude. You know, arguably the greatest tight end playing today. How much is the left narrative? Taylor Swift coming in to Travis Kelsey and infusing their ideology on him, you think? Oh, yeah. 100%. on him, you think? Oh yeah, 100%. But that's a fake relationship.

Starting point is 00:42:28 That's just the left putting these two powerful figures together so they can be role models and teach these nasty things to kids of today. You know, that looks, you can tell that the left is just going after the most famous people they can, the athletes, celebrities, entertainers and they're just getting them to shove their narrative down these kids' throats. Wait, what?

Starting point is 00:42:48 Guys, I just absurd something, right? Now, based on what you just said, okay, if you don't know the answer, I'm really curious to know what you're going to say. What do you think he got paid from Pfizer for this commercial? 100 million? No, no one's going to pay that kind of amount of money. I was saying for, for, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, let me tell you something, for 100 million, I'm fucking, I'm loving it. But you, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no one's gonna pay that kind of money. I'm saying for, for, no, no, no, no, no. Let me tell you something, for a hundred million,

Starting point is 00:43:05 I'm fucking, I'm running. But you, yeah, no, you're not, typically you get a cost like half a million bucks, a million bucks, that's a big deal, right? What do you think got paid for that? Okay, now that's like that was five million? What do you think got paid? That's a lot, I've not heard of five million dollar deals for a Travis Kelsey.

Starting point is 00:43:20 What do you think got paid for that? I mean, listen, for you to go around and be the spokesperson for Pfizer and you're the face of the NFL and you're dating Taylor Swift. How much? Whatever number you like, dude, I would give it to you. I'd go send you $10 million. $20 million. $29 million. Kidding me.

Starting point is 00:43:37 Did you guys know this? I had no idea. I just googled it right. And it's important to report from Andrew Pit Cash. Travis Kelsey was offered a strong incentive to take part in a fice or promotion. The Kansas City star is stated to have made a massive $20 million from the advertisement. Oh, weird. Oh my God, I had no clue.

Starting point is 00:43:58 And then think about this, and you nailed it, believe me. But look, look at this tactic. And I said this yesterday, you got to keep your heads to Democrats. They recruit his ass. They make them date. She's a Democrat. You wait for six months. Guess what she's going to say to all her, what are they called? Her Swifties.

Starting point is 00:44:15 Hey guys, Donald Trump makes it. Hope to God. Don't vote. They're evil. Vote for whoever, new summer, whoever. You know how influential her voice is gonna be one For a vote and that's the tactic get nine jabs and vote for the left. They're not stupid Let me tell you something let me tell you something

Starting point is 00:44:33 You know I would never mess with the UFC those guys are bad asses. You do not want to mess with the Swift Yeah, no shit guys, so check this out. Look at this goal goal Go on the article and go a little lower watch this your goal a law Okay, zoom in right there on the top top tweet on the article and go a little lower. Watch this, your go a little lower. Okay, zoom in right there on the top tweet, on the top tweet right above it. Keep, no, no, the other way, the other way. So Kelsey typically makes five million a year

Starting point is 00:44:52 from endorsements and $14 million salary. These endorsements are Nike, Thai, T-Mobile, Old Spice, Walgreens, McDonald's, Papa John's, Sleep Number and Dick Sporting Goods. One company, Pfizer, Payton, or Times the amount of all of those big companies pay them. So, oh my gosh, I don't like that. I'm at 20 million bucks.

Starting point is 00:45:12 This is exactly why when I talk to Vivekan RFK, I say somebody as a president, you have to take, you have to not allow big pharma to pay this type of money for people because you're going to be tempted to, like he just said, what? He said, I'll take 100 million dollars, even Adam's like, I'll take 100 million dollars for this. But imagine how many other kids are sitting there saying, yeah, that's my guy, he's dating Taylor Swift, I'll take the vaccine, I'll do this, I'll do that.

Starting point is 00:45:41 And what are the effects on that? Myocarditis. Myocarditis. Let's say it's one in ten thousand let's say it's one in a hundred thousand You're okay with that. I don't know about that. I'm in 20 million bucks. I thought it was honestly I thought the number was gonna be a million to 20 half million max when I saw that commercial I thought it was a spoozy. No, goby when I saw that commercial. I'm like this is a comedy spooge You have yourself twice, get outta here. By the way, the reason I even know about this,

Starting point is 00:46:07 because you know who called them out initially, was Aaron Rogers. Yeah. On the Pat McAfee show. Yeah. But let me tell you something, I believe in free market capitalism, make your decisions.

Starting point is 00:46:15 If you weren't online, you want to go basically literally sell out to Big Farmer and take your $20 million. You do what you got to do, Travis. But we have the right to be like, I'm on the fuck, motherfucker, hold on. Yeah, that's not. Like I'm so grateful that people even found this.

Starting point is 00:46:28 Well, yeah. He made five million, go back to the brands again and around. I don't know about this. How does that pop up? Exactly. We really want to put this in. These are some of the biggest brands in the world.

Starting point is 00:46:37 Wow. Wow. D-Mobile, old spiced Walgreens, McDonald's. I mean, this is massive, billion dollar marketing budget. Well, yeah, hold on. Why marketing budget. Why, why, why that was not equal to five thirded? Why, why even, why even play football for 14 million a year? The hell would, getting a concussion and getting your brain messed up. Just keep saying, Hey, next year, but like, Hey, guys, get three more

Starting point is 00:46:56 jabs, 20 million dollars a year, why are you playing football? So not a year for one. By the way, so by the way, you know, some of the guys in all sports watched this and you know, we, we talked to by the way, you know some of the guys in all sports watch this and you know, we talk to these guys, you know some of the names. We wanna say publicly, but you know what they're thinking right now? They're probably calling their manager, hey man.

Starting point is 00:47:12 Yeah. Look, they're sharing. 100%. And they make a Marshall talk. But think about how tarnished Pfizer's brand is that whatever their marketing budget was before they need to double and triple it 10X it. Prior to whatever happened with COVID, if they called Pfizer, he's like, yeah, it's for a half a million bucks, that whatever $20 million, they come knocking down your door

Starting point is 00:47:36 and they throw in a free swifty CD. Dude, you're gonna fucking, that's 20, you're gonna consider that. That's 20 million for one like half a day of work. It's not campaign. Yeah. Wow, that's 20 you're gonna consider that that 20 million for one like half a day of work is really campaign yeah wow that's I'm telling you I want one law for president to push hundred out of all the countries in the world nearly 200 countries in the world only two allow big pharma to advertise we've talked about this a number of times it's US and New Zealand which is need one president coming and say hey big pharma you can no longer pay Travis Kielsey 20 million bucks to do some like this, not big pharma, okay? Well, that's not fair. Don't you believe in capitalism?

Starting point is 00:48:11 If you believe in the capitalism, you believe in let's cigarettes be sold on, you know, I come cigarettes don't do advertising. I come tobacco. There's a lot of companies that can't do advertising on TV. I think these guys after COVID have proven they don't, they should not have the free fall to throw money at everybody and say go advertise 20 million. That's bananas. That's one commercial.

Starting point is 00:48:32 You know, he's not really actually taking two jabs. I guess talks about health is this cornerstone of this career, you know, the things he puts in his body for his diet, you know, his work ethic in the gym lifting weights. Those are the things that, but they're trying to brainwash these kids, like, oh, take the jab. This is what's gonna make you healthy. This is what's gonna make you a star NFL player. So that's gaslight in your bubble.

Starting point is 00:48:53 Let me ask you, bro. Let me ask you a question. What's your vibes? If we go out and we're watching, we're hanging out at the plane cards and Kelsey's a neighbor, he comes. Him and his brother, would you get the vibes of them being conservatives or liberals? I get conservative.

Starting point is 00:49:09 I get conservative. I do too. Me too. Right? The brothers like him and his wife, they're doing family the way they were raised, I get conservative vibes. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:49:18 For 20 million bucks, you'll be a Democrat for a day. You're selling, yeah, but you're selling. You're selling bucks. I'm selling. Sellers, sellers, sellers, sellers. I just agree with everyone. I just agree with everyone. I just agree with books. Sell in your books. Sell in your books. Sell in your books. Sell in your books.

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Starting point is 00:50:08 They don't have a price, but hear me out for a second. It just means this is not a hill you want to die on. For you, you're like, hey, sauce cast, a million dollars Pfizer. I'll take it. Maybe you would take that sponsorship, right? Not enough, but okay. Okay. But what I'm saying is, but maybe you would take it for, and I don't know if you're gonna get $20 million or pull, because you don't have that kind of pull that kill-seas. You're not dating dealers, right? I mean, yeah.

Starting point is 00:50:31 But all I'm saying to you is, maybe you'll say, I'll take the million bucks, because to you, I don't give a shit, what's the big deal? I've taken flu shots, I've taken this, when I travel, I have to take this shot, that shot. But there are people that wouldn't take it if you gave them all the money in the world.

Starting point is 00:50:47 There are people literally that wouldn't take it. Even that statement, everybody has a price tag, gets the populace to believe, well, I have a price tag. No, I don't think that's the right mindset to think everybody has a price tag. You may, in certain areas, you don't give a shit about, but I think you have to have more certain values and principles that you're not willing to compromise.

Starting point is 00:51:09 It's disappointing because I like his play. I actually like him as a guy, and I like him and his brother. I like the fact that they are, you know, they seem like the type of guy you would actually enjoy their company. You know, Sankelski's don't give me the vibe of like you wouldn't enjoy their company, snobby people. saying? Kelsey's don't give me the vibe of like, you wouldn't enjoy their company snobby people. They give me the Grand Kowski vibe, right? Let's just, you probably fun to party with them.

Starting point is 00:51:30 Maybe not as brother was a good guy to party with, but he comes across as a guy that you'd want to party with. I'll tell you, 20 million bucks. Wow. I'll give you a quick response and this is why I say everyone has a price. I firmly believe that I don't think Travis Kelsey is aligned with whatever this narrative is on the left. But when they come to you,

Starting point is 00:51:48 you've been in these spotlights before, you've probably been approached by all sorts of people that are like Travis Kelsey. You know, two years ago, nobody knew your frickin' name. Now you've won two Super Bowls. Let's make a deal, buddy. What you got in mind? All right, well, you're sold.

Starting point is 00:52:03 How would you like to be the most famous player in the NFL? What? What do you mean? Yeah, Tom Brady's retired. You know, there's someone else that can pick up the mantle. How about we throw in $20 million to shoot one commercial? All right. Go on. What's it for? Fizer? I don't know about that. How about we'll make it a little sweeter for you. Name the biggest hottest pop star in the world that maybe you would want to be seen out with constantly. Cardi B. No, no, no, no, okay. You know, maybe Taylor Swift shows up to your arrowhead stadium for a game randomly and you guys maybe you guys fall in love by,

Starting point is 00:52:40 you know, accident. Who know? Maybe you're on the cover of people, maybe you're the biggest show in the world, just maybe Travis Kelsey. At some point, even Travis Kelsey, who's a multi-millionaire, I think he's got a $40-50 million net worth, he ain't no slouch. Even he has a price.

Starting point is 00:52:57 So that's my point here, is that when I say everybody has a price, maybe it's not literally everybody. You're not making sense. But what I'm saying is, for the right deal, even some like is it, and I think it validated the one my buddy here is that even Travis Kelsey is willing to sell out.

Starting point is 00:53:13 But I'm saying for the money, for the fam, for the chick, all that. For what though? For this hill, it's not an important hill to him. What do you think, Kobe? When it comes down to, everybody's got a price. Like if these guys called you with a fat check, what check would you say yes to?

Starting point is 00:53:28 There's not a check, I would say yes to, you know. For me, and I know that everybody doesn't have a price because some people have a conscience and to have that on your conscience, leaving it everyday, that you're advising people that this is healthy and this is what you should do for your body when people are dying by the masses from heart attacks.

Starting point is 00:53:43 And look at LeBron Jones, James Sun. Did he have like cardiac arrest at 17 years old? 17 year old little, you know, super athlete in the James family, having cardiac arrest. Right. That's unheard of. You never heard about that 10, 20 years ago before these jabs came out.

Starting point is 00:53:56 So no amount of money. Am I going to be able to live with and feel good about myself? Like I wouldn't be able to sleep at night. I go to bed thinking, man, I'm just fooling everybody in America right now. I'm leading them down a path of destruction. I just couldn't live with myself with that. There's no amount of money.

Starting point is 00:54:12 I already have enough money where I came from. A million dollars was gonna set me up for life. So, you know, there's no amount of money I can't buy. Let me ask you this. You're a man of principle, no doubt. Knowing what you know, professional athletes, even UFC, for that amount of money, life-changing, for most guys, how many people are at least taking that call and being like, all right, I'll listen to what you guys got to say, fill in the blank conversation.

Starting point is 00:54:36 You're saying UFC. In UFC or even in professional sports, you're saying that you wouldn't do it, whatever the number is. These guys get paid 50 grand of fight to get their face fucking mashed in you're right They're calling you for 20 million dollars. How many guys are picking up that phone? Oh, yeah every single one night You know, that's my point. Yeah, but that's in the UFC where they don't make you know paychecks like in the NFL Yeah, and then I fell you know minimum wage those guys to sit on the bench or making them really near so you know You could be a field cool kicker and you're making three to five million years

Starting point is 00:55:04 So that's not enough money. Like what? But the reality is, most NFL players are out of the league broke within three to five years. That's the NFL. And that's the reality of it. NBA, I think it's five years plus. Yeah. But these guys, what they need to understand is, I mean, you know, you're 35, you're still in the, you know, prime of your career. Most guys, by the time they're 30, they're done, zero more money, ever to be made in their entire life.

Starting point is 00:55:26 Yeah. Okay. And that's the reality of an athlete. It's kind of like a hot model. It's like, by the time you're 30, cut it off. So you got to make it now because Travis Kelsey doesn't do this thing now. Nobody's going to think about Travis Kelsey. In the web, C35 is not prime.

Starting point is 00:55:39 So he, I'm saying Colby. I'm not saying you, I'm not talking Colby. I'm saying most guys are done by 30. Right. You tell him in the other I'm not talking Kobe. I'm saying most guys are done by 30. Right, right. You tell him in the other sports. And any sport. Yeah, so, so, yeah.

Starting point is 00:55:49 I mean, look, again, it's what heal, like for example, Kabeep. You know what everybody learned about Kabeep during UFC? To him, number one is not money. It's religion. Oh, there's no question about it, right? And everybody learned, like this is not an act. He's not trying to sell tickets. Guess what?

Starting point is 00:56:10 Say something about my religion, my country, and my family. One more time. I swear to God, say it one more time. Look what I'm gonna do to you, right? Guess what? You're like, oh shit, this guy's not playing, right? Conor found it.

Starting point is 00:56:22 You know, it's okay. I thought it would just sell and take it and all this other stuff. No. To some, they're like, right? Conor found it. You know, it's okay. I thought it would just sell and take it and all this other stuff. No. To some, they're like, I don't even shit. I'll take the back. And by the way, keep on mind. Up until we had kids, I've probably been back

Starting point is 00:56:33 sitting in more than anybody at this table. No, probably you and I. You and I probably have the most back. Anthrax, I got every freaking week in the economy that we're giving us something new. Metal one, you have your most partners. Get these air guns. Guns, bow. And we would, we would tell us they're like just so you

Starting point is 00:56:47 know your military property for the contract that you signed. That's a GI and you would go government issue. Wow. And you move a little bit. It's a scar, right? Remember the shit. What was that all about? It's like, hey, all I want you to, I want to tell you is don't flinch.

Starting point is 00:57:02 Yes. Right. And Pat, did you have a choice? No, I don't have a choice. I was with government key ice. Yeah, for government issues. By the way, not only did I not have a choice, more importantly, I didn't give a shit.

Starting point is 00:57:12 Yeah. That's what I'm trying to tell you. I'm 18. I'm 19. I don't give a shit. Like, what am I worried about? I'm not sitting there being educated about it. But then all of a sudden,

Starting point is 00:57:21 when it's no longer about your life, when you have a kid, you look at everything in a different way. When you don't have a kid, all you're trying to do is make money and have some kind of influence, power, freedom, control that you can do whatever things you wanna do.

Starting point is 00:57:39 Once you have kids and friends say, hey, did you guys do this? No, we didn't do it. Here's why I read this pamphlet. Oh shit, babe, what are we gonna do with that? So how about this? What are you guys going to do when it comes on to? What are you going to do with this? How are you going to have a circumcise? I'm going to say, these are all decisions that all of a sudden now you have to make. You didn't think about that until you have kids. So I understand when you're single, no kids, not married. Yeah,

Starting point is 00:57:57 I'll take it and I'll do stuff with the money. But you're getting other guys that are watching this shit that may be saying, if he's taking it, I'll take it as well. Anyways, we don't need to stay here. We just found out this guy on a 20 million box offer Pfizer. Yeah. Good, fine. Good, fine. By the way, so, so, so, Kobe, what's next with you?

Starting point is 00:58:14 Like, right now, what are you thinking? Are you thinking at this point with fight where, I think you ask for rematch, right? You want to have a rematch with Leon. So you're thinking rematch with him. Is that the main focus you have to get him to want to do a rematch? I mean, not to get him to get the UFC on board that they need to sell this rematch. They're going to see that my doctor tells them

Starting point is 00:58:38 that literally my foot was broken with the first minute of the fight. And I outlanded him in strikes. I doubled his strike count. Like, I feel like I had a, I thought I feel like I won the fight and I landed him in strikes. I double the strike count. I feel like I had a, I feel like I won the fight. So that's all I'm going to do whatever it takes to win the fight. If I have to win 10 more fights to get back to him, that's how hungry I am. I'm not like one of these guys exiled Williamson where he gets a contract and he just loses

Starting point is 00:58:59 motivation. He already got paid. He's not hungry. No money, money is going to take away my hunger and passion and drive for this sport. And for the platform that I love, my platform stands for first responders, stands for military, stands for the Trump,

Starting point is 00:59:13 stands for the troops. So I'm going to keep fighting with those guys on my back. And I'm not done yet. They can say whatever they want. They can say, oh, I'm past my prime, not past my prime. I'm just hitting my prime because I took care of my body. I didn't spar hard. I didn not past my prime, did I? I'm just hitting my prime because I took good care of my body. I didn't spa hard.

Starting point is 00:59:25 I didn't, you know, go get it. My head hit recklessly or I've never been knocked out. So, you know, like, I'm just getting started in my career and I'm going to keep fighting it and I want that rematch. What did Zion do to you? Like you brought in Zion. Like that was such a, I was, I mean, I'm just saying he's one of those lazy, undisciplined athletes.

Starting point is 00:59:43 He's one of those guys like they get these paychecks and They just lose their hunger that you know, they just look at how much weight is gained the guy just I mean he's a Flaught slot, so he didn't lose his hunger. That's one thing he didn't lose Bad enough Chris Christie and he's got a pretty good DM game. He's the M and everybody on nowadays He's he's only wants to get he wants to be the go to head of Sean Camp and Primek Knight, but that's a different conversation. Brought those two guys up. But going back to this with wanting to come back and fight for you,

Starting point is 01:00:14 after the world is done with, after the world of UFC is done with, are you thinking what you're gonna be doing? Like are you, because right after all these sports is typically going to be specifically UFC, the guys that don't have personalities meant they don't have to make money. Yeah. They don't have any options on how to make money. Sure. Where do I go to? Literally. The only thing can do is be an instructor somewhere making

Starting point is 01:00:36 100 bucks, 200 bucks an hour. You're training other people if you can get paid that, right? But those that have a personality, do you see, you know, you know, sitting next to Joe, like you're commentating on stories, do you see kind of maybe your dedication to the game, you're gonna open up your own comment and gym and train, what do you see happening to you after UFC? Have you thought about that? I haven't thought about it because I'm still 100% in the UFC. I feel like, you know, when you start putting that one foot out

Starting point is 01:01:01 and start thinking about what's next, then you should probably retire. You're not still completely invested in defiding. So I still know I'm one of the best fighters in the world. You know, I just went five rounds with the supposed champion, you know, who's who who was supposed to just completely decimate me and it was a very competitive fight. Could it went either way? So, you know, I know that I am more than just a fighter though.

Starting point is 01:01:21 I'm not just a fighter that shows up and fights in the in the in the octagon. That's not all I can do. You know, I'm smarter than that. I can use my mind and I have intellect to be able to navigate the waters and get me where I want to go in life. But I haven't thought about I do want to get into politics one day because I want to fight for what I believe in. You know, I want to get into Congress, maybe Senate, maybe something that maybe be the

Starting point is 01:01:42 governor of Florida. That would be my ultimate dream to be the governor of this state. Get out of here. I vote for you. Really? So you want to be the governor of Florida that would be my ultimate dream to be the governor of this thing. Get out of here. I vote for you. Really? So you want to be a governor of Florida? I do. I do. How do you do? Interesting. So what do you think about Matt Gates? A lot of people are saying Matt Gates could be the next governor of Florida after Decentis. Yeah. You know, I think Matt's he's a great personality. He's a very smart, witty guy. He said, there's definitely some things that I've seen him vote on that I didn't completely agree with, but no one's perfect.

Starting point is 01:02:08 So you actually follow this stuff. You actually follow the political, so how much do you follow? How intently are you following issues? Yeah, I mean, issues, I'll check X and I get all my issues there because I can't check the fake news. We know the fake news will try and tell you that the world's burning and that, you know, that everything is fine, you know, and just to live your life

Starting point is 01:02:30 normally and not worry about inflation, hating skyrocketing prices or our border being completely open and terrorists coming through it every single day. So, you know, I pay attention, but I'm also like, you know, I don't want to start going fooling until my career is over and I can dedicate my whole time to it. Governor Covington, you know, you know, I love that. Have we ever been an MMA professional fighter running for high levels of office? Has that ever happened? No, but Jesse Ventura was a governor, but he was a wrestler. But like with him, no, because I can imagine you like debating you're like and like you like cameras are having like

Starting point is 01:03:08 Lines up with by the way if you have a problem You're in Florida, you know, you're you're obviously on on team Trump Governor DeSantis I assume you voted for him You didn't vote for DeSantis? Not in vote for DeSantis. Oh, straight. I mean, that was in 2022. Um, what are your thoughts on his, his situation with Trump? These days, he was super close to them in the polls.

Starting point is 01:03:35 Now it's a landslide. Do you think MAGA would ever get behind DeSantis? What are your, what's your anticipation there? No, MAGA never forgets. You know, we, once you expose yourself for being a certain way, he's an establishment puppy, you know, he's sponsored by George Soros. I mean, the guy is an unlawful and unfaithful human being. I mean, like, if it wasn't for Donald Trump endorsing him for Governor Florida, he would

Starting point is 01:03:57 never be the Florida governor. So for him to try and come run against Trump when he had no chance from the start is just the most despicable thing alive. Like, you have the rest of your life. This is Trump's last shot to save America. He's the last thing that's standing between communism and capitalism. Donald Trump is loves this country more than he loves his own money, like in his own business and his own life and his own family.

Starting point is 01:04:20 Like, why couldn't he just step aside and let Trump have this last hurrah, you know? Like he's got the rest of his life to run for politics So it just shows he's an unlawful unfaithful person and and Maga will never forget what he's done to To Trump and try and throw him under the bus and the fact that he's not condemning Colorado for taking Trump off the ballot That just shows how dangerous and and just how bad of a person he is. Like, you think that's okay? That's unconstitutional. That's not a democracy. That's straight up communism, that's straight up dictatorship.

Starting point is 01:04:52 And the fact that he's not condemned and it just shows what type of person he is and we'll never forget that. Are you following the primaries? You see what's going on with the Santas, Nicky, Vivek, Chris Christie, somehow still there. Trump hasn't showed up yet. What are your thoughts on what's going on

Starting point is 01:05:06 with the primaries? And if Trump somehow wasn't the candidate in some other life, what are your thoughts on Vivek? What are your thoughts on Nikki? What are your thoughts? Yeah, I mean, I think Trump has run away with the primaries.

Starting point is 01:05:21 There is no primaries. It's the party of Trump. So, you know, he's going to, it's a landslide. He's beating Biden the polls. And that's why they're trying to find every different way to take them off the ballots because they know they can't beat them. They're up. You know, they know that he's a threat and that they can't stop him. So, you know, he's the last thing that stands between us and this being a full-out tyrannical government. So, you know, if Trump wasn't on the ballot and say, but he's going to win this nomination, he's

Starting point is 01:05:49 going to make America great again. But if he wasn't, I like the things that Vivek's saying. I think he stands for truth. I like that he's backing Trump and he's condemning Colorado, taking him off the ballot because that's unconstitutional. That's not democracy. So I think Vivek's doing a great job. Smart guys, you know, tech guys made a lot of money. He's done good business and that's what we need. We don't need these political figures that talk so

Starting point is 01:06:12 politically. Oh, everything has to be politically perfect. No, we need these smart business people that understand how business works because that's what's going to help America. Stop sending all our money out of the country. Let's put America first again. No one's done that. They're trying to destroy this country. They want this country to be rotting. And a lot of people would be letting this country rot and just enjoy the money on the sidelines, but not Trump.

Starting point is 01:06:36 He cares about this country more than he cares about life and self and he's willing to put himself in the fire. And he's the biggest fighter America's ever had. He's gonna bite down his mouthpiece. He's gonna come out here fighting and he's gonna take down the swamp God bless Donald Trump Rob I just sent you a video if you can pull this video up This is the part where the Santhus is being asked About Vivex pledge like hey, here's what Vivex doing. What do you want to do? Are you willing to greet it is?

Starting point is 01:07:00 And a lot of people are saying this is a bad look, but I wonder what you guys going to do. I'm not sure what you're going to do. I'm not sure what you're going to do. I'm not sure what you're going to do. I'm not sure what you're going to do. I'm not sure what you're going to do. I'm not sure what you're going to do. I'm not sure what you're going to

Starting point is 01:07:12 do. I'm not sure what you're going to do. I'm not sure what you're going to do. I'm not sure what you're going to do. I'm not sure what you're going to do. I'm not sure what you're going to do. I'm not sure what you're going to do. I'm not sure what you're going to

Starting point is 01:07:18 do. I'm not sure what you're going to do. I'm not sure what you're going to do. I'm not sure what you're going to do. I'm not sure what you're going to do. I'm not sure what you're going to do. I'm not sure what you're going to do. I'm not sure what you're going to to do. I'm not sure what you're going to do. I'm not sure what you're going to do. I'm not sure what get overturned by the Supreme Court, but I've qualified for all the ballots. I'm competing in all the states, and I'm going to accumulate the delegates necessary.

Starting point is 01:07:31 That's the whole name of the game in this situation. But I do anticipate that that decision was political and will get reversed. What do you think about the answer? What do you think about the answer? What do you think about that when you hear him saying? He's not even answering. He's kind of, he's looping around. And he's not showing whether he stands up and supports that and believes that's

Starting point is 01:07:50 fair or not. He doesn't give an answer. And that's kind of what Ron does. He doesn't really give straight answers. He kind of beats around the answer to trying a piece to his handlers, the people that are his donors and paying him all this money. You know, the guys, he's sold out to the left now. Everybody can see that he's being. You think you sold out to the left?

Starting point is 01:08:07 I think so. I see in some of his biggest donors with George Sorrow. George Sorrow's affiliates. So you have to look into that. I'm pretty. The Santas backed by Soros. That's the first time I've heard that by the affiliates, he's saying. Who's that?

Starting point is 01:08:20 Some affiliates, some donors of Soros have gone infiltrated the Sanctus camp and who haven't heard of that yet. DeSantis plans Wall Street fundraiser with former Soros executive. Wow. Interesting. The Colby. And they get some news here, buddy. The San Funerizer is a Wall Street executive, including former, you know, just like

Starting point is 01:08:42 partner. Truth is a force in nature. Yeah. And so, Colby, like, and he mentioned of the VEK and you said,'t know, I do it in both of your execs, including former from the partner. Truth is a force in nature. Yeah. And so, Kobe, like, and he mentioned of Vivek, and you said, you know, tech guy, and because I mean, Vivek is taking a page out of, you know, Trump's book, like, he's this guy, like, and we've talked about this before.

Starting point is 01:08:56 He kind of came out the gates, called, he was chill, he wasn't going hard, and then by the what, the third debate, he's trashing everybody, we just saw him, what was the thing Pat that made Van Jones shiver or shake, what was that one Rob? Whatever it was, Kobe, he said. He was winning, went after that Ronna McDaniel

Starting point is 01:09:18 and the GOP. Oh yeah, he called out to her face. Went after them and they came after him and Van Jones is like, oh, I was shaking, but that's the type of attitude. And I think we talked about this. Pat, if you don't mind, could we go play? Yeah, because so, um, play what Van Jones said and then play Vivek respond into it. Yeah, well, do you have, are we going to show Vivek doing the, oh, yeah, the response.

Starting point is 01:09:40 Yeah, this is why he said, this is what Van Jones said about the fact. And the smug condescending way that he just spews this poison out is very, very dangerous because he won't stop Trump. But he's gonna outlive Trump by about 50 years. And you're watching the rise of the American demagogue that is a very, very despicable person. And I'm literally, I was shaking, listening to him talk, because a lot of people don't know.

Starting point is 01:10:09 That is one step away from Nazi propaganda coming out of his mouth. Okay, like from an Indian. I can't believe that, like that's ridiculous. And then, and then this is his response, this is the VIXA response. So I say that on that last debate stage, to a bunch of Republicans that are shaking in their boots.

Starting point is 01:10:24 These are the things you're not supposed to say in the Republican Party even today. And then you get the mainstream media. You got this character van Jones on CNN afterwards saying, this is the rise of an American demagogue who's going to live 50 years longer than Trump. This is dangerous. I am shaking. That's what he says. You shut the fuck up. I've never heard of a better man than a kid who paints water.

Starting point is 01:10:49 That's amazing. You shut the fuck up. Wow. Now, hold on. I want to ask you, but we talked about this in the prep a couple of days ago, Patrick, you're not a fan of that. You're not a fan of Vivek going, like as a presidential candidate, you're not a fan of that. You're not a fan of Vivek going, like as a presidential candidate, you're not a fan of that.

Starting point is 01:11:07 I don't know, I think there's a different. Vivek's already making so many strides on how much he's come up. Yes, you know, two days ago, he made the most viral video on X for single day. He had 150,000, 200,000 likes. That thing got 10, 50 million views when he's saying, I'm not gonna be, I'm gonna be removing myself

Starting point is 01:11:26 from the Colorado Bay and I'm pledging and I'm challenging my peers, you know, Haley and all these other guys to do the same as well. What's it at now? Can you 20 million views? Look at that. 16.8 million views, 200,000 likes, you know, he's just sitting there from his, you know,

Starting point is 01:11:40 are we saying this? I don't think a presidential candidate should get up there and say what he said. You have see MMA, all the other stuff fine. I don't know if a presidential candidate should go up there, say something like that. You know, I can see how it could rally a young audience if you're speaking to a private young audience.

Starting point is 01:11:58 But you have to know, everything you say, someone's gonna see it. Yeah. And today's climate, nobody gives a shit anymore when you're cursing. It's no longer what it was 20 years ago. So I get that part of it. It's been dehumanized, like it's no longer as,

Starting point is 01:12:13 it's been desensitized than what it was before. I still don't like him saying it. You don't, you don't like, and the only reason I disagree is because at what point, and I know you're gonna agree, like enough is enough. Trump is gonna God willing for these four years, but when he's done, this is our next product. I'm thinking of the future, but it's like,

Starting point is 01:12:34 if he's a future, it's like we, the left, and they're starting it again with him, how long are you gonna let them get away with it? Calling somebody, even, let me explain to you, but this is what he said. And I'm tired of this acting presidential. So what's acting presidential? All the illegal shit that they do,

Starting point is 01:12:49 I like it because think about this. If somebody said this to you, Kobe, you're dangerous, smug, condescending, you spew poison, you're an American demagogue, you're a despicable person. Dude, we've hung out with this guy. This saying despicable, he's a freaking family man. It's shitty.

Starting point is 01:13:06 And that he's speaking one step away from Nazi propaganda. You know what you say to that? Shut the fuck up. That's what it is. I don't think so. I disagree. You disagree, but. And let me tell you why.

Starting point is 01:13:17 God, I mean, what you're saying, will gain you some fans on what you're saying here. So it's a nice thing for people to say, that's why I love Vinnie and that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that to say, that's why I love Vinnie and that, that I make you feel good about it. Yeah. But that's not what leaders do. A leader's sister says,

Starting point is 01:13:27 you could give the same message without having to say that on that platform. Because that message, again, I've been in a lot of rooms where I've gotten up and given a talk and I've gotten the hey bro, great job dog and hey, hey, and then I'm like, shit, but I lost those two clients.

Starting point is 01:13:44 And I lost that person's that the most loyal person that comes with me, family guy, Christian guy that's doing this. Damn, I shouldn't have used those words. And if you're not, if you consider yourself wanting to be a leader amongst leaders, who are you leading? You're leading other leaders, okay? This is not leading other leaders. If you do it once, twice, three times, fine.

Starting point is 01:14:05 Don't fall for the temptation. I just hope this doesn't become a trend, but we're hearing it next week, and an interview, and in a podcast, and a this, and a dad, and a this. You think he'd be a multiple occasion, saying the effort, or was it because T.P. he was at America fast and younger crowd,

Starting point is 01:14:22 and Vinnie, you've been around me, you've heard me curse. It's not like I'm not sitting here telling you I don't. Or I do. When you first came to us, your brand was a different brand. When you could come to you, come like, what are you doing? You don't need to do this stuff to make people laugh. Just because, because sometimes,

Starting point is 01:14:41 sometimes if you're not too careful, your reputation is what everybody of says your reputation is, and you stay loyal to what other people keep saying you are. And that's a, you're arrested, you're in a prison, you're in a, what do you call it? You're like a spiderweb that's got a hold of you, and then it could be like you're the clown, you're the fighter, you're in a, what do you call it? You're like a spider web that's kind of whole of you. And then it could be like, you're the clown,

Starting point is 01:15:06 you're the fighter, you're the gangster, you're the thief, you're the bully, you're the this, you're the that and you're like, dude, that was when I was 18 years old. That was when I was 30 to 45 years old. No, I'm not that anymore. You know, that's when I was that and you have to find a way to not fall for that trap.

Starting point is 01:15:23 There's an audience that wants him to say this, but who is that audience? The 2%, the 8%, the 13%, what about the other side that you need it? No. One time, fine means you're capable of losing your shit, means you're human being, totally fine. If this becomes the brand moving forward, I don't, Trump said it a couple of times on stage, and I like it when he said it a couple of times. Yeah, rarely.

Starting point is 01:15:47 I actually like it when he said it a couple of times. I just don't think it has to be consistent. I hope it doesn't be consistent. I agree. What I'm saying is though, think about what was said about him. I'm not gonna lie to you, I probably would have gone even worse. But that's why you gotta be careful. Yeah, of course.

Starting point is 01:16:02 Yeah, of course. If you're trying to be a president, we can save. That would have done it to me. I would have done such and such. Okay. Before I have an a daughter, my biggest fear was, what am I gonna do when I have a daughter? And a guy is gonna hook up with my daughter

Starting point is 01:16:18 and date my daughter. And I'm sleeping at night and they're still at the movies. And as a man, your creative mind is going to wear Yeah, of course think about that. Right. So first place you go to have somebody come out and do this with you. You're 17. You're 30. Yeah. So are you gonna, and then eventually you're like, well, if you raise them well, you show them love,

Starting point is 01:16:52 you give them an example and they get to choose. They're gonna have their heart broken at some point or another. You have to kind of work with that, right? But if you want to be that tough guy gangster beating everybody up for the rest of your life, your upside is limited. So yes, I get what you're saying. I understand it.

Starting point is 01:17:10 It's exciting. But look at this. That common he said, didn't go viral and look at this common to 20 million. You know why? Because this made sense. This made sense. And in curse one time, you didn't say any, this makes sense. And people listen to it to the point where he's cornering the Santas to end.

Starting point is 01:17:27 And he knows what the Santas is gonna say. You understand what I'm saying? He knows they're gonna go to the Santas and he's gonna be asked that question and the Santas is gonna say no, and Maga's gonna see it. He knows what he's doing. Do this. He can out-school his peers staying in this mode,

Starting point is 01:17:43 not in the other mode. The other mode is temptation. Again, I could be wrong. It's my opinion, that's all I'm saying. If you see yourself as a leader amongst leaders, you have to pump the brakes when it comes on to certain approaches you take. Yeah, I think what do you think? Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, they're pulling nasty things out of their playbook, you know,

Starting point is 01:18:00 the things that they're doing, taking them off a ballot for nothing he was ever even convicted of. This is just, you know, not even a crime that he ever did. And so this is, this is, this is terrible behavior. So I think the gloves are coming off. And there's no more fair fight. We can't be nice. We need to be stern. We need to be, you know, upfront.

Starting point is 01:18:18 I mean, you look at Elon the way he went after the guys that were pulling back all those funds off of X and he said, what do you say, get the fuck out of here? No fuck yourself, you know, like that. I'm okay with that. Yeah, yeah. I'm totally okay with that. He's not running for a president.

Starting point is 01:18:32 That's the only difference. It's different, you know. So I do feel like you're probably right, you know, when you're in that political position, running for a presidential position, like you still need to make middle America happy and middle America, you know, they don't want people cussing and doing those types of things because that's not a good example for their kids. So yeah, there's ways that he could come across a lot stronger without having to say that. So I do agree on that front, but we also, we're not being playing fair anymore. They're not playing by the rules, you know, they've opened their house.

Starting point is 01:19:00 By the way, and then never will. That's our job. Let us do it. You don't need to do that. Okay. You know, I was, I was on whose show? I was a guy asked me a question. He says, you got advice for Trump. Would you give him?

Starting point is 01:19:10 You don't give advice to a guy like that. You know, when you make it at that level, he's not taking, but he is a what do you mean guy? He takes a lot of it. So Charlie Kirk asked me this question at the event. Turning point, you were saying when I'm doing his podcast. Last week, I said, the only thing I would say is the following. Here's what I would say.

Starting point is 01:19:25 When you're a boss, you're lucky Luciano. When you are, you know, Roger Godel, okay, of NFL. When you are, Dana White, when you are, go to the bosses, the boss amongst bosses, okay. You're gonna have more enemies than anybody else. You're already dealing with your kid issues, your family issues, your personal health issues that nobody knows about.

Starting point is 01:19:52 You got so much other shit you're dealing with that no one knows about. And you can't ever talk about that with anybody else because nobody gives a shit quite frankly. It's like that's your problem, or handle your problem. But if you're gonna be a boss amongst bosses, you will list that your enemies, 50 of them. Trump's got thousands.

Starting point is 01:20:11 But let's just say you list that your top 50 enemies. Ain't no what you do, here's what you do. Guys, I'm going after one, two, three, four, five. You're going after six, nine, 14, 28, Patrick, you're gonna go do this, Vinnie, you're gonna go do this. And you're gonna be like, dude, I got 28. I'm out of fact, I want 28, right? Can't wait.

Starting point is 01:20:30 No, no, no, no, no. But the way this is is your playing defense, dude. I want to freaking lock him up. I want to guard him. I got him, right? Where sometimes Michael's like, no, no, no, no. I'm locking him up. Like the one wants to lock up the one, right?

Starting point is 01:20:43 All I'm saying is is that's our job. You know, when I say our job whoever's not running, you know, that's somebody else, that's your job to go fight for a guy like that. It's the office. Elon Musk would eat it. Freakin, 10 out of 10. Go. They know why 10 out of 10.

Starting point is 01:20:59 Go but they're not running for office. That office is an office that was held by Lincoln's room. All these other guys that have come before us. There's a level of respect we have to have for those guys. That's all I'm saying. I love the fact that it's capable. Because when you know someone's capable, you can sit there and say, ah, that guy could cross the line next time.

Starting point is 01:21:17 Okay, I like a bit of capability. But you just need to be a little bit of work. Again, that's my opinion. Do you have a follow-up? You look like you wanted to ask Kobe something. Well, I think it's a perfect segue for you're talking enemies and who to attack and who not to attack. I just, I want to know what happened with Mosvado.

Starting point is 01:21:34 Because I mean, I know you want to go fight Leon again. John Jones, you've had some words with. That's a bad man right there, Colby. Dana White, Joe Rogan, you said you'd smack Rogan a little bit, you got a lot going on. Colby coming, but Moss Fudol, I'm so intrigued, because I'm a Miami guy, I've seen that guy fighting for years, back in the Kimbo slice days,

Starting point is 01:21:59 I'm sure you know all about that. You guys had your dust up, poppy steak, shout out to Groot Hall's fatality down there in Miami. Those are my boys down there. Obviously everything can happen there. But what happened, bro, you guys were friends, you guys lived together, you guys roomed together, he said you slept on his couch for eight months. I'm just using his words. You guys were sort of BFFs. He says you were as a mentor. And then, you know, one of you guys chose

Starting point is 01:22:23 your enemy speaking of choose your enemies wisely. Now he says you're a sellout, he called you a bitch, he's saying all this shit. You guys were on Stephen A Smith, you had the sunglasses on. I'm too pretty. These girls are gonna fall in love. What happened with Moss for them? I beat him up. I gave him the 5043 in a soda. It was the easiest fight in my career. I can't believe they paid me what they paid me to beat that backstab and bum up. He's a backstabber. He's a guy that, you know, as soon as I started rising up

Starting point is 01:22:50 in the ranks, that's when it was an issue. That's when his ego came in. He's like, no, fuck you, Colby, I'd fight you for, I'd fight my mom for money. So I'm for sure going to fight you. We're going to fight one day. And then he just, he just started throwing me under the bus for no reason.

Starting point is 01:23:04 Like he just started talking shit in media when we weren't even scheduled to fight yet or even talking about fights. And it's so crazy because like we lived together for like, you know, a couple of years, you know, I lived on his wife's couch, Marizo, the woman that he has two kids with that he doesn't pay child support too because he's a piece of shit deadbeat dad, like I said. So that's why he got offended because I hit the truth. And he had whatever he could do, he wanted to me and that UFC alcohol legally for 25 minutes. He couldn't do shit. That was the easiest fight I'd even break a sweat in that fight. I was laughing at that. And

Starting point is 01:23:33 if he had two guys holding him up, come on get get yeah, like just completely exhausted. He has a bump. So yeah, he had to come outside of that steakhouse in Miami Beach and he had to stock me sitting the bushes and come and hit me in the back of the head and then knock my tooth out because he hit me in the back of the head and cussed me. He's a world class fighter and he couldn't beat me legally so he had to do it illegally and he's a cheap shot artist. How can you respect a scumbag like that? Look at his past history, he's stolen cars, arson, like the guys are felon, you know, like

Starting point is 01:24:02 there's multiple things of him saying, you know Oh fuck Colby in the magma movement back in the past, but now he's you know best friends with magon He thinks he's a represent Representative of the Republican so people see right through him. He's a criminal. He's a slime bag He's a backstabber. He has a ego You know most people in this sport they have a ego. They can't let the regos to the side I never had a problem with him. He just started throwing me out of the bus and he said hey I gotta hate the people I fight so it is what is he at the top of your list of your enemies list like

Starting point is 01:24:33 Is he that if there's one guy you're like dude? I don't even want to paycheck for this. I'll fight for free Who's that that is he at the top of the list? I mean not really I've let all you know feelings and emotions go with that guy I could care less about him I've already handled by business in the UFC people saw in front of the world what I did to him You know I play with them. I was slapping him. I was saying who's your daddy bitch? He didn't the fight in the fight straight up in his here. I was whispering. He couldn't do anything I was whisperin let him know. Hey, I'm your big brother. I'm your daddy. Who's your daddy George? So I have nothing you know, he's I'm levels above him above him You know and in every sense of the world, you know politically

Starting point is 01:25:09 Spiritually in the sports world like he's retire. Why are we even talking about a guy that's not even at the top I'm still you know a top contender in the UFC and and future champion this division So that you know we're talking about a washed-up scrub that you know had two seconds of fame He hit lightning in a bottle and then we're going to talk about him being a good fighter. He's not a good fighter. The guy has double digit losses on his record. His winning record, he's like a 50% winner. He wins one fight, lose the fight, wins the fight.

Starting point is 01:25:37 We're talking about him. Like this guy's a fucking nobody. So I, you know, I've let all my emotions and feelings go with that guy because I have nothing else to prove to him. You know, I've already proved that knock the gun. I exposed the piece of shit person he was. He talks about his MAGA, but he had an abomaphone for years. Like how do you believe in freedoms, but you're getting food stamps in an abomaphone and

Starting point is 01:25:59 you're getting all these government assisted handouts, but then you're going to preach against it. Like you stand for conservatism? No, that doesn't make sense. You're a hypocrite. government assisted handouts, but then you're going to preach against it. Like you stand for conservatism. No, that doesn't make sense. You're a hypocrite. So, you know, people, he got exposed. And I exposed him in front of the whole world. And I've moved on from that.

Starting point is 01:26:11 It's bigger business and I got bigger fish to fry. Kobe, who are your friends? Who do you have as friends? Who would you say? Like these are my friends that we have each other's back. Who would you say those are? My best friend, you know, is a guy named Charlie Weiss. You know, he's a sergeant of the Miami Beach Police Department.

Starting point is 01:26:26 The guy literally saved my life on stage last week and people didn't even realize this. I got done doing my interview with Joe Rogan on Friday night. I'd have to be weighed in. It was our last phase off with Leon Scott before we were gonna fight for the Undisputed title the next day. I get off and there were so many people on stage

Starting point is 01:26:43 so it was like very crowded. So we were like towards the front where Joe Rogan was interviewing me And I get done with the interview and I'm like, yeah, this one's for America And I was just like the lights are so bright and all the people were screaming I go to walk off the stage and Brick and Charlie grabs me on the back of my shirt my next step was going off the platform because you have the we had to like I was gonna go off the stage right here, but the were over here I had to go over to the left. You know I was looking out for me no security nobody only Charlie and this is a guy that's a police officer that's you know fought for our army that's

Starting point is 01:27:14 been done towards and he's an established guy. Most people would be so caught up in that moment that they wouldn't even they would have let me follow I would have broke every bone in my body was a nine feet freaking drop I had to go down 10 stairs. Oh damn. Yeah. So this is a guy who really cares about me. He doesn't get caught up in the moment. It's truly watching my back at all times like a brother would. And I consider this guy family. I would take a bullet for this guy. He's he's blood. He's he's more than family and and you know, he's my best friend who I care about. Well, both of you have see world. Well, it's in a fighting world. In the fighting world, I don't have friends because I always said, I'm not here to make friends.

Starting point is 01:27:49 I'm here to make money. And that's what matters to me is financially changing my future and my family's future. I've been able to do things for my family, get them things that they would have never been able to get otherwise. So everybody's jealous of me. They hate the way I do business,

Starting point is 01:28:05 but they're not making the checks I'm making. They're making basic pay, you know, and they'll be broken a couple years. I'm set for life. Do you think that's the right approach? Do you think you're taking a right approach with relationships? What do you think? Because to me, you know, I had a guy that I was doing business with. I'll never forget what he told me in Atlanta one time. He says, look, this is how I am, man. I'm gonna destroy everybody. I'm gonna hate on everybody. I'm gonna kill everybody. And then years later, when I'm so far ahead from him,

Starting point is 01:28:35 then I'm gonna try to be friends with them. I'm like, I don't know if that strategy's gonna work because at the end of the day, when you're, like even in the NBA, right, like my guy's Kobe. Okay, I've had Kobe on. We've spent time together. I just I relate to Kobe. Kobe went through a phase where as a villain, I mean, his nickname, right, black mom, after all the stuff that happened with, you know, the incidents, Colorado stuff that I'm saying, this is how you guys want to do. No problem.

Starting point is 01:29:00 And guess who gave him the name black mom, but himself, right? Yeah. It wasn't like others gave him the name. No, I am the Black Mamba. And then he put a whole persona around it like, you know, Bosworth used to be in a nicest guy. I don't know if you've ever seen the Bosworth documentary. If you've never seen, I think you would really like it if you've not seen it. Fnash, Bosworth.

Starting point is 01:29:17 You've never seen the documentary? Yeah, Brian Bosworth, it's him and his son. It's him and his son and they're going through the old material and they're doing it when he's in his late 50s, early 50s type of thing. It's actually, it's worth you watching it by yourself without anybody else around, right?

Starting point is 01:29:31 Okay. And then all of a sudden, Kobe comes into the league and you know, in the Olympics, he tells Carmelo Anthony and LeBron, if I come across the center and I see Paul Gassal is putting up a screen, I'm gonna run right through him. Have you ever seen this clip or no?

Starting point is 01:29:49 I've heard about it. Okay. He runs right through him as if he's tackling. Can you show it for him but not the audience? So whoever's in the back, don't share the clip because I think it's, we're gonna get flagged. But who's the player? Who's the player?

Starting point is 01:30:05 You've never seen Kobe run through Paul Gassal and the Olympics. By the way, they were teammates on the lake. There's all the soul teamers on the lake. Oh, yeah. And he runs through him. Boom. It looks like they could have given them a technical file, kicked them out of it again. That's how bad it was.

Starting point is 01:30:19 Powers on the ground is like, what was that all right? And if you can, if you can actually do this instead of doing 2.0, go to 1.0, but just go to the clip. Just fast forward a little bit to the clip, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. Keep going, you're about to see it right there. It's coming up right there, back up three seconds, back up three seconds, right there. So watch this. Power, screen, Kobe, boom.

Starting point is 01:30:44 Oh damn. Yeah. Drums and then he goes rocks and he tells people he was going to do that, right? up three seconds right there. So watch this. Power screen Kobe boom. Oh, yeah. Drums and then he goes rocks and he told people he was going to do that, right? Yeah. And why? Why? Because you just said right before that though. He goes how close you guys? He's like we're like brothers. Yeah. So he made one and then be a championship together. So the quote says I'm running right through with that. So the question is, you know, when you're in it and, you know, Michael had relationship Charles Oakley. He was friends with these guys, right?

Starting point is 01:31:07 Eventually, it becomes lonely when you're going through it, especially if the game you're in. And the older you get, the more you value relationships, yeah, it's important to make money. Of course, yeah, it's important to have a legacy, very important. But you want to be able to sit there and have friends where you're talking shit to, they can talk shit to you, you can talk shit to them, you're laughing, you're talking about different things and he can reminisce and go through that. Do you value that at all with people within the space that you've been competing in for all these years? Not within the space because a lot of fighters are very small-minded. They only did fighting because they had no other reason

Starting point is 01:31:45 to make an outlet in the platform. These are the guys that were fighting back yards so they just decided to fight. You don't see a lot of fighters that have very good degrees or have an education. They're just, all they know how to do is, oh, testosterone, let's fight. That's never been me.

Starting point is 01:32:02 So my friend and my support group is outside the fighting circle. I don't want to have friends in the fighting circle because the people in the fight on fighting circle, circle, their perspectives are completely different than mine. They don't think that the way I think they don't, they don't approach business, the way I approach business. So I don't really want to be friends with doesn't. And for me, I like to have a disconnect. When I'm not fighting, I don't want to be thinking about fighting. I want to talk about politics. I want to talk about life. I like to have a disconnect time. When I'm not fighting, I don't want to be thinking about fighting. I want to talk about politics. I want to talk about life.

Starting point is 01:32:26 I want to talk about the future because there's a reason that the windshield's bigger than the rear view mirror. I don't want to talk about what happened yesterday or what happened in my tie-to-file. I want to talk about what's going to happen right here in the moment. I get that. And again, look, I'm 45.

Starting point is 01:32:40 So if I sit down and talk to a guy that's a billionaire and he's 65, and I want to see what he's going to give me, feedback, why is that? And retain it. And it's beneficial to talk to a guy that's a billionaire and he's 65 and I want to see what he's going to give me feedback Why's I'll entertain it and it's beneficial to talk to somebody like that, right? Yeah, so let's do maybe in your world that would be a Daniel Cormere or because whatever he's like I had of you and and he's one when I say head of you age-wise. He's a head of you in You know, I don't know how old Daniel is. I'm gonna say 42 How was it 40 41 now 43 44? Okay, How old is he? How old is he? I said 41.

Starting point is 01:33:05 No, 43, 44. Okay, can you just... He fought Steve Bay when he was 41. Okay, thank you. Okay, so he's 40, 40. So, when I see the relationship with, Cormier, I see him with Rogan, I see him with these guys that are sitting there, you're seeing some of these fighters

Starting point is 01:33:20 later on, their friends and they're hanging out together and all this stuff, this is a phase of your career, right? So snipers sometimes, they're loners in a military. You know, the sniper might say they don't have friends. But even a sniper's got a guy laying next to him to say, hey, go do this way, go do this, go do that, go do that, go do this. You don't process that at all where, you know,

Starting point is 01:33:47 because dude, you haven't been one of the guys that fought. You're one of the main guys that we've, you know, like that's been in this space that's brought a lot of eyeballs to it. You're not just another UFC fighter. You know, I know you don't think about that yourself. I'm just telling you as a fan side, you're not just another UFC fighter. You're not just an out of UFC fighter. You're like one of the main names of this brand, right?

Starting point is 01:34:08 That, you know, all these different Avengers are coming up in different villains and all these roles that they play. But even inside of villain, man, he's got a heart. You know, the villain is sitting there, saying, man, you know, relationships. Some of these guys I've gone to battle with, I wouldn't mind, you know, maybe sitting down

Starting point is 01:34:24 and chopping it up with some of these guys, yeah, you did some shit. I got my stuff on my, you know, because you don't walk on water, I don't walk on water. The other doesn't person doesn't walk on water, so we can sit in and talk shit to each other. But just as much as you know, they're dirt, dirt. They're probably, I don't know your dirt, because I'm not in your world, right?

Starting point is 01:34:38 But in my world when we're competing, everybody knows each other's dirt. Everybody knows like, what are you talking about? You want me to bring up that story from 2004 on what you did, like what are you talking about? You want me to bring up that story from 2004 on what you did? Like, what are you talking about? Remember that one time you did this? So there's got to be that element as well.

Starting point is 01:34:51 You don't see the benefit of having any friendships with any of these guys? No, I mean, I have one friendship. I was mistaken, you know, the guy that got me into mixed martial arts, a guy by the name of Chailpies Sonnen. That's my mentor in the MMA space. That's my friend in the MMA space. I got a lot of advice from him over the years. Very cool. He got me into fighting originally. He was getting ready for the Anderson civil fights and he came to my college

Starting point is 01:35:15 Oregon State University and was like, oh, I want to wrestle with you. Get your pressure pace and I want you to help train me for Anderson. So that was when I got to sit down with him and understand more to this business. It just wasn't just about fighting. There was more. You need to entertain. It's this show business. So, you know, Chale's done a lot for me.

Starting point is 01:35:32 I still get a lot of advice from him and talk them with him on the phone regularly today. Besides that, my support system consists of doctors, dentists, lawyers, you know, police officers, military personnel, you know, those are my friends, you know, one other one of my best friends, Stephen Hodgson, he was in the 82nd Airborne unit for the Army Rangers. Now he's with the Golden Knights in the Army.

Starting point is 01:35:53 So, you know, these are the people that I look up to. Charlie Weiss at the Miami Beach Police Station, Kirk Weiss. He's a top lawyer for Chick-fil-A's, one of the top lawyers in the world in Miami. And Ritter and Ramsey, this dentist up in Jupiter who did my teeth, you know, these are the type of people that are successful, that understand business and more than just fighting, you know. And that's more, that's what I want.

Starting point is 01:36:15 I want disconnect from this fighting world and I want to have friends that, you know, like you, that are bigger than larger than life. Will you closer grown up to Pops or Mom. I was a mama's boy for sure. Your mama's boy, but close to both. Close to both, my dad got me in wrestling. So.

Starting point is 01:36:32 Did anybody hardcore, and I'm not asking for a name, but did anybody hardcore ever backstab you or betray you where you're like, you know, you're like two-packed? Don't trust no one. Did that ever happen or no, That's not at all the case. Oh yeah, that's happened a couple times. Okay, and was there one that was above everything where you made a personal truth to yourself?

Starting point is 01:36:51 Dude, this is it. My loyalty is only to these people. And no one else gets into that circle and if you do, it's gonna take a lot. Was that kind of like a moment that you had? Yeah, it was about the fighter that he brought up earlier. And I'm not gonna say his name anymore because I'm over it, but that was what really fighter that he brought up earlier. And I'm not going to say his name anymore because I'm over it.

Starting point is 01:37:05 But that was what really was the eye opener. As someone who I thought was my best friend who I live with and was so close, but he was willing to throw me under the bus because he cared about his personal gain and fame and money more than he cared about his relationship. And yeah, that's that's and that's because you guys, I don't want to be to dead horse. So just I wanted to understand you better Because I enjoy watching you I enjoy watching you fight and I've enjoyed what you've done Thank and I wanted to get a better understanding about

Starting point is 01:37:35 Why you play this villain role bro? I wanted to see why you play this I don't play the villain role. I'm I'm just myself. I turn it up to 11 I don't care what people think of me. People can have their own opinion. I respect everybody's opinion in America. And that's what makes this country so beautiful is that we can all have descending and different opinions.

Starting point is 01:37:53 But we don't all have to think the same exact thing all the time. So, you know, I respect everybody's opinion. They're entitled to it. I'm not gonna shame you or throw you under the bus because you have a different opinion than me. I want you to have your own opinion. I want you to think for yourself. I think that's fair.

Starting point is 01:38:08 And your February 22nd, right? Are you 22nd? Yeah. February 22nd. Very interesting. Very interesting, man. Very interesting guy. Very, very interesting.

Starting point is 01:38:17 What can he say about him? Because he's obviously one of the best shit talkers of all time. He started it. He was the initial guy. That guy. That's our Oregon gangster, the Westling Gangster, man. You don't. He was the natural guy. That guy. He's our Oregon gangster, the Westling gang. And man, you don't want to mess with that guy. You walk around the streets of Westling

Starting point is 01:38:31 Oregon, man, the people don't realize how tough he had it, man. That guy's a gangster. There was some years back 20 years ago, when his parents only made a hundred thousand a year, could you imagine having to live off a hundred thousand years ago? You're saying that he had an easy upbringing as that's what you're saying. I'm saying he had a tough upbringing, man.

Starting point is 01:38:48 That's tough, man. That's the best poverty. Hard to get. That's the poverty. Who wouldn't he rise? Who's the best shit talker in the UFC? Do you have like a list? If you would say top five, who would be on that list?

Starting point is 01:39:03 Top five, I like Sean O'Malley. He's got great shit talking these days. Mm hmm. Besides that, everybody's just, they don't, they don't want to open up. They don't want to be judged. They want everybody to look at them in a sympathetic role. Like they're the good guy. No one wants to step out and be, it be a bad guy and expose the truth.

Starting point is 01:39:20 But, you know, the truth is what always hurts and stings the worst of these fighters. Not so much the best shit talker. Not so much, you know, we've asked the hardest puncher, hardest guy, well, I want to know, like, swag, like, game, like the biggest pimped type, dude, like, every, I mean, Usman showed up the other day, he was chilling. You got some game, you know, the fashion, like, style, just like, like, you know, you know, they say, a man's man, and also, you know, guy that most guys want to be like, but girls want to sleep with that kind of dude.

Starting point is 01:39:49 He's swagged out. He's a pimple. Like, ladies man, all that. He dresses well, looks good. Who would you put on like the best game kind of a thing, right? Like swag type vibes. swag. I mean, definitely corner.

Starting point is 01:40:00 He's done some great things. You know, he's one of the biggest fighters of all time. If not the biggest, then he kind of changed the game. He brought in so many fans that never watched UFC before. So there's casual fans and then there's hardcore fans. If he brought in all the casuals, so he's got that swag. He's done some great things and he might be a future prime minister. I think he could do some good things for Ireland. You see the people, you know, rotten and burning in the streets and he's not okay with that, you know, he wants those board of security. Just like we need our board of security here

Starting point is 01:40:36 in America because you don't know who's coming in. Like that's what's causing all these crime rates to go up. That's what's causing hundreds of thousands of kids that died from fentanyl every year because these drug lords are coming in. So we need to monitor our borders and keep our people free and safe. What's your relationship with Connor? Oh, no relationship. I respect his body at work.

Starting point is 01:40:58 I think he's done some great things in the space. The things he did were unmatchable, knocking out Jose Aldo in seven seconds, you're not ever going to see someone do that in the title fight ever again. So, you know, my, my relationship with him is just, I respect him and he's a great fighter, he's done some great things in the sport. And, you know, I think he's going to go on to do better things in politics for Ireland. Really?

Starting point is 01:41:21 I would be the most. I would, I would, most I would I might move the I would. Okay. That's his press car. Oh my God. What the fuck? What the fuck are you doing? You can say that and get away with it all day long because it's his brand.

Starting point is 01:41:37 They would love him. Yeah. Of course. That's so fun. Because I want to ask him if it's okay with you. You were talking about, is that do you think called me that one of the main? Because you think of me that one of the main, because I believe in it, that one of the main issues that we're dealing with,

Starting point is 01:41:49 and the Biden administration with meworkas, the, you know, the Homeland Security, the horrible, horrible little rat. Do you think that's one of our main, or like, if not the main issue, because I don't know if you saw a governor, Abbot of Texas, on Monday, remain, like if not the main issue, because I don't know if you saw a governor abit of Texas on Monday signed the bill that makes entering Texas illegal, which thank God from

Starting point is 01:42:11 and and it allows police to arrest illegals coming into the state because apparently the Homeland Security is not doing nothing. The Border Patrol is in do nothing. In November, did you know this? 200,000 illegals have come in. It's up 2% from the month previous. And think about it. They're not saying nothing, Koby,

Starting point is 01:42:32 because all those people are coming in our future votes. A lot of these kids are become slaves, traffic, sex, all that shit. And did you see this? Stephen A. Smith made a video. And Madhu, if they're not doing it and people are just running over the border, good, let the police stop people and check them out.

Starting point is 01:42:50 Stephen A. Smith made a video how he's condemning what Abba did. If you could play that, maybe play the first minute, Rob. Go ahead, go ahead, play the first minute. And go to the beginning of it, Rob, because, yeah, go ahead. Greg Abbott, do you ever heard of him? Yes. He's the governor for the state of Texas. Come on, Steve.

Starting point is 01:43:06 There's a fake fire behind you, Steve. That governor, Governor Abbott, signed a bill into law that will allow the police to arrest migrants illegal to the U.S. illegally. Illegal! This law will take effect in the... I'm curious. I just want to read that. So, my English, my fifth language is, I need your help. But I'm curious. I just want to read that so my English English my fifth language is I need your I got you Texas bill makes illegal

Starting point is 01:43:29 migration to state crime isn't illegal Immigration a crime already what are we talking about what are we talking about it in the name? I like legal like that let me play I love Stephen a I love him to I love Stephen I just talk to him let's hear him out. Yeah, that's right. I've just talked. I love him too. I love Stephen. Let's hear him out. Let's hear him out. Yeah, that's right. I just talked to him three days ago. You know, he's like,

Starting point is 01:43:49 Kobe, I don't agree with your politics, but you know, I agree with what you stand for and I respect you for your body work, but you know, come on, did everybody knows he's employed by ESPN the biggest, wokest company of his all that Disney. So, you know, of course, he's got to say that because if he doesn't, then his sign, his checks aren't going to get signed. So he's just doing that.

Starting point is 01:44:09 He doesn't really believe that. He's just doing that to the pieces, you know. I agree. And he's saying here that he just says so you that big, you know, he called it racist. He says it's racist. He says, he says governor. I have it as racist. He goes, he's racist. It's a racist thing which I do. I'm tired. You nailed it. Well, I mean, it's five, the videos five minutes long, but I'll break it down. He says it's racist. He's racist. It's a racist thing, which I do not like you nail. You nail that. Well, I mean, it's five minutes long. But I'll break it down. He says it's racist. And he's like, so that means if a cop sees a Latin looking person, they can go and grab

Starting point is 01:44:33 them. I'm going to like Steven A. Smith stick the sports, bro, because you know what? He's from New York. I'm from New York. Go to New York and ask New Yorkers how they feel about all these illegals that are just bust over there and flown over there and how they feel about all these e-leagals that are just bust over there and fall over there and how it's going. Go ask Eric Adams, how is it going?

Starting point is 01:44:51 Because Texas can't do it. Have you seen the border? Have you seen what's happening? And it's like, nobody cares. And I'm tired of this. It's racist. Right, and pull up the clip of the border because it was a record breaking day yesterday. You know how many people yesterday?

Starting point is 01:45:03 12,000. 12,500. 12,500. and a single day crossed the board. And by the way, you know what that is, times 365, record breaking, 4 1 1 2, it was a record breaking day yesterday, and we did nothing. 4 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 a year, if they allowed. They were interviewing who was coming across. Look at that, that's real?

Starting point is 01:45:20 Yeah, that's real. This is yesterday. That's not, this is not a, what do you call it? I love a soccer game and is yesterday. That's not a what he called. I love a soccer game and somebody wants. I was a soccer game, no. And then, and then, and then, and before you go and here's my point and this is this really bothered me Rob and I sent the clip to Rob. They don't give a shit who's coming in and what's happening Rob.

Starting point is 01:45:39 I saw a video that really pissed me off. There's some guys from Guatemala. They're coming over the border and another Latin guy stops them and questions them about the kid who looks like he's drug, play this video. Look, they don't even know, that's not their kid. Watch, keep it the volume up. What?

Starting point is 01:45:55 Watch. Watch this. Watch this. Wait a minute. Wake him up. They're not that long. Wake him up. Look.

Starting point is 01:46:03 What about keeping that kid? That kid's, look. Look. He didn't even, he didn't. He him up. Wake him up. Look. Look. That kid's look. Look. He was sleeping. What does that say? What does that say? What does that say?

Starting point is 01:46:11 What does that say? What does that say? What does that say? What does that say? What does that say? What does that say? What does that say? What does that say?

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Starting point is 01:46:30 That's not his kid. And the kid's one year's old. The kid's old. And then here's my point. And then another one. This is what we're dealing with. This is one case. Adam and Rob has another video. Now in Texas, Valley Airport. Now there's underage migrants coming in.

Starting point is 01:46:47 Look at how they're all in cahoots with Border Patrol. Watch this. Move in these kids, too. What are you? What? You guys got paperwork for these kids? What work on it? You know what, third of these kids going missing?

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Starting point is 01:47:34 yeah, just, yeah, that's how we go. I'm going to add something to what you're saying. So, you know, we were just a turning point USA. We interviewed James O'Keefe for a buddy shout out to you, James. Yeah. He threw a party the next night. We missed it, but we'll do it again soon. That's what it is. But him and my friend Ashley St. Clair, who was also there, they broke one of the biggest stories yesterday.

Starting point is 01:47:54 They had a massive Twitter X-base yesterday about what's going on at the Phoenix Airport, where they saw these migrants being bust in, right? They got dropped off at the airport by James was going in on it by black limo service. Weird, right? Here it is right here by like, you know, VIP type buses. And he basically starts asking, what's going on here? Where are these guys going? What's going on? They all end up going to the airport. They're all flying in New York. Asha was flying from Phoenix to New York It was a whole thing migrants on the plane. They're getting taken from the border black limo service getting sent to these sanctuary cities This is New York and then on Twitter last night or X they had all the pilots

Starting point is 01:48:41 Basically half of them had to disguise their voice. And they're like, just what's going on? Just get to the point here, they're like, dude, where are the pilots? Is this plane? And like, we don't know who the hell these people are. We don't know who these people are. We don't get it. We don't know what's going on.

Starting point is 01:48:55 You know what they use as ID? They don't even have ID. They're arrest records. So there's basic people that are just basically saying, maybe go to Ashley St. Clairza on a new play review video. The people just basically like, guys, what's going on here? You know what's going on?

Starting point is 01:49:13 Open borders, just flying them across the country, bustin' them here, sanctuary city there. This is Ashley right here, if you wanna play this, it's 30 seconds. And a migrants who are also boarding this flight that the U.S. taxpayers are paying for. This is what the U.S. taxpayers are paying for right here. Premium seats on Delta that they have people coming here.

Starting point is 01:49:35 We're paying for this, shipping them out to New York City, because guess what? Everywhere else is at capacity, so they have these sanctuary cities like New York that they're now shipping these migrants to that we're all paying for. Why, though? I'm gonna go off, because I've said this before too.

Starting point is 01:49:52 It's first, I think it's votes all over the place, but when you're not keeping track, there's no ID, when they're young and they're whatever, A, they're gonna be used for cheap ass labor, and I'm gonna be honest with you. Sex trafficking and all that, it's a constant influx, and that's why the left is like, no, that we're humanitarians, let them in.

Starting point is 01:50:13 No, no, no, no, you have to keep the supply open. There's no other excuse, give me another excuse. Give me one. Terrorists, why do you think? Come on, dude. I mean, he's definitely on to something with the sex traffic. You know, if you saw that movie Sound of Freedom,

Starting point is 01:50:28 just show it all the nasty vile things that are happening to these kids. And, you know, obviously, we all know about Epstein Island. All these left elites were flying to this island regularly to be with little kids. So, you know, they're about to release those flight logs and a lot of people are hanging exposed. So, I think that's a, there's a legit pedophile ring in DC

Starting point is 01:50:52 and, you know, why not get little migrants from all around the world that they can just abuse? You know what's gonna happen though, whoever gets elected next, there's gonna be deporting going on. Like, the amount of people that came illegally, the conversation is about what you're gonna do to deport guys.

Starting point is 01:51:11 They're openly having conversations right now about that. And FYI, like, if you lose Texas, if I understand strategically, if you're allowing these people into Texas, because that makes sense, because you got to turn Texas blue. Texas is the biggest pain in the ass for liberals. Oh yeah, totally.

Starting point is 01:51:27 And it's deep red now it's purple. No, now it's purple. Yes, now it's purple. In about a way Texas you lose Texas. That's what 30 like. Here's what's great. Texas becomes purple and Florida becomes red, which is kind of weird. You know, not fully red, but you know, in the way of being red, right?

Starting point is 01:51:42 But why would you move them to New York? It's not like New York needs more liberals there. What are you doing moving them to New York? You're not winning anything with that. So strategically, I understand Arizona, fine. I get it. You have someone knowing people that are there for the left. They can't stand a carry late.

Starting point is 01:51:58 I understand Texas. Yeah, totally get it. You want to get rid of what Abbott is doing and what some of the other guy, but moving them to blue cities. Intention, don get it. You want to get rid of what Abbot is doing and what some of the other guy, or moving them to blue cities, intention, don't know. And they're not saying nothing about it. It's just happening. It's not weird.

Starting point is 01:52:14 Nothing about it. Yeah, well, I mean, look, again, this will be more of a reason because there are certain issues of Vinny that unifies the entire party. For example, not the entire party, the entire country. You may be pro-life, okay, and she may be pro-choice, right? And whatever, you can make the argument for pro-life pro-choice.

Starting point is 01:52:37 You know what the midterm showed last year? Majority of America or pro-choice? You give me pro-life all you want. Midterm showed. Majority America's pro-choice. So guess what, life all you want. Midterm showed. Majority America's pro-choice. So guess what, Republicans, you screwed up, okay? Oh shit, okay, we paid a price. Should've been a red wave, didn't get a red wave.

Starting point is 01:52:53 Now, liberals may be saying, oh, I bet everybody wants more Democrats, more people to come down to border. No, even Democrats living in those cities raising kids don't want open borders. Okay, that's the part where America is against open borders. Hey, everybody should be okay with us teaching LGBTQ stuff in school. No, not everybody.

Starting point is 01:53:15 As parents are on the same side with this. 2024 election, if there's no game, game, gamesmanship, and no manipulation, it's gonna be a, it's gonna be, it's gonna be a landslide. If there's no gamesmanship, the only way there won't be a landslide is because there's gamesmanship. Because the entire America doesn't stand for this stuff. Dems don't stand for this stuff. The people on the left don't stand for this stuff.

Starting point is 01:53:39 I have one of them talking about that. Yeah, I'm not a progressive. Yeah, I'm at the insurance, we're having dinner. You know who was at the dinner at the main table. Don't say the names, but you know who was sitting at the table with you and I, right? At the diplomat, you're saying. At the diplomat, yeah.

Starting point is 01:53:50 At the prime. So we're sitting there, okay. One of the guys sitting next to him, he's a very good friend of mine. Love this guy, but he's a liberal. He can't stand Trump. He cannot stand Trump, right? He's a liberal.

Starting point is 01:54:02 And he went to all the right schools, okay? He has all the right GPAs When I say right schools, I mean like the Ivy League type of schools like all that stuff, right? And he guess where he lives he lives in in the Greenwich, Connecticut You know, Most of the play Sack Harbor like that kind of stuff. Yeah, and he's saying look when I'm not gonna like to you What the way the liberal the left is handling the Jewish community, I don't know. It's making me want to consider voting the other self

Starting point is 01:54:28 for the first time in my life. There's so many dumb strategies that the left is playing, that they think they 100% have loyalty of everybody on the left and they don't. I'm convinced they don't, and I think they're gonna show it at 2024, I believe that, but again, we'll see. And they're gonna play all'm convinced they don't. And I think they're gonna show it at 2024. I believe that. But again, we'll see.

Starting point is 01:54:47 And they're gonna play all these games, they're gonna play, it is what it is. Kobe, it's gonna blast having you on, man. Really, really enjoy talking. You appreciate you're coming on. Appreciate you having. And gang, we're not doing any podcast today's what, the 21st.

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