PBD Podcast - Comedian Kevin Farley | PBD Podcast | EP 141 |

Episode Date: April 6, 2022

In this riot of an episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by comedian Kevin Farley to discuss his brorhter Chris Farley's legacy, Addiction, Jada Pinkett Smith, Disney and much more... TOPICS What it was like to grow up with Chris Farley The DNA of a comedian Chris Farley's legacy Kevin Farley recalls hanging out with Adam Sandler Addiction Discussing Will Smith/Chris Rock Bill Maher on Jada Pinkett Smith Why Capitalism always wins Kevin Farley on politics Disney(how about that southwest flight) Southwest Airlines passenger (whats wrong with mcgarity) Kevin Farley is an entertainer to the core. Over the past 3 decades, he has made audiences laugh, cry, smile, and think as a stand-up comedian, actor, filmmaker, and podcaster. Check out Kevin's podcast, Offsides: https://bit.ly/3ual3Fq See Kevin on tour: https://bit.ly/37lVcl3 Follow Kevin on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3J566ZD Follow Kevin Farley on Twitter: https://bit.ly/36XrhQ3 To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: [e-mail] Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

I haven't even slept yet, but it's great to have you on, you know, when the, the, robbed the bookers like Kevin Farley and all my gosh. And then Adam's like, oh, we have to, yes, when there's, we got to have him on. And Adam, why don't you tell him you're, you know, your, your heroes in life. I think it's important for you to set the tone. Gladly. Yeah. Um, look, I grew up in the early 90s watching SNL, dude. And, you know, I mean, this is gonna segue into talking about your family and your brother and everything. But on my mount rush more of life

is your brother and Adam Sandler of life, dude. Oh, really? Like, I used to do stand-up comedy. I had to transition out of it because I wanted to make money at some point. Ha-ha. But, you know, you don't do it. You know.

You don't do it. You don't do it. And making money, making thing. But I just remember in middle school running around just getting like everything. Like it's, you know, it'd be like, like what I said, like your, your favorite baseball play of all time, one Gonzalez. Like meeting it. Meaning the entire Gonzalez family would be a big deal for you. So no yeah there's still a lot of people you know that remember them and that's why I made the documentary because I wanted to show people you know what he was like and that there's a lot of been said about

Chris and that kind of thing. I kind of wanted to set the record straight a little bit on on some of that stuff and it was yeah it was a those are it was a great documentary I was I was happy with it, you know. Well, let me ask you, you guys are less than a year separated. What is it? Yeah, no. Chris was like a year, yeah, it's called Irish twins. Right.

So, I think he's like a month, a year like a month older than I am. Yeah. Which is Chris. So, your older brother, one year, is Chris Farley, legendary. But like you have a lot of what he had. We're like Irish twins. Exactly. Kevin, question.

So when I think about it, I'm like Chris Farley light, you know, I'm not gonna throw myself on that day. No, exactly. So yesterday we're hanging out at this event and we're talking to Pamphley on a right, Pamph Bitcoin. And I'm asking about his family, five brothers, how they're doing and he's telling the story of who. Massive guy in the Bitcoin space.

Yeah, he is. And he's, but all the five brothers, they're all doing something, right? From 26 the youngest to 33 being him, the oldest, they're all players, they're all killers. And I said, so tell me about the household growing up. Well, how was dad like? How was mom like?

And he said, yeah, dad was a worker six days a week, but mom ran the show. And I said, but tell me about the household growing up. How was dad like? How was mom like? And you know, dad was a worker six days a week, but mom ran the show. And I said, but tell me about the whole dynamics because I got four kids. What was the farly household like growing up? That's what I want to know. Yeah, all brothers too, right? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no You know, it was a lot of like, because we had four boys in the basement. We had a house that had a basement.

We didn't have an upstairs. So it was kind of like living in a dungeon area. Like, sir, I don't know. But we also Wisconsin was cold. And I think a lot of comedians come from like Canada and Wisconsin because you're trapped inside. And there's no other thing to do other than like, we didn't have a lot of things growing up

you know other than I'm gonna try to make you laugh you know or also I'm gonna try to make you ever I'm gonna do something and then we dare always dareings I dare you to do that I dare you that and we'd make up games like does this hurt you know pretty simple you don't want to lose that game. Pretty simple game, you know. The oldest to youngest. Give us the rundown. Well, there's Barb who's the oldest. She was the oldest sister guy. She had her own section of the house.

Yeah. So we couldn't go over there. She had Carpenter's albums that we couldn't touch in that kind of thing. And then they had the rest of us just kind of like piled in an area. We'd switch. Like, one of us are getting a fight And then I'd have to room with John and then you know one of us again I might we have to room with Chris there's three boys one girl four boys. Yeah

And what are the age gaps boy for someone that I'm pretty Chris Farley you think he knows I know Chris and Kevin that's who I know I know I know Chris and Kevin that's who I know first. I'm here in the barbers the most I'm a Our job or two we get to Kevin's cousin John's the older brother John's the John's the older brother right John's youngest He's the youngest and I have a brother Tom and then a brother Chris and then myself and then John and how many years separate There's only a couple years. Yeah, dude What does that happen? You guys don't want the middle school high school all at the same time pretty much? Yeah, what was that like? I'm in a football team, you know parties, keg this basement. What was all that like?

It was you know, I think that I look at kids growing up now and I'm like I kind of feel bad like We were out a lot like I'd be like See I'm out of here, you know, and I go be with my friends for hours, and I don't know I never went home or anything like I never went in front of the television, you know, we had to make up our own fun. And when the VCR hit, they were like, oh, wow, I'm going to watch this all day long. But no, we were making our own fun. Like we're out in the out and playing basketball or making up our own games or trying to, usually Chris was always the funniest.

Like we could make him do anything, you know what I we could he would do anything like anything anything now it's like you know you make these dares where you go I dare you do this I dare you to that you know I'm not gonna do that like he do that craziest dare he ever yeah what's the craziest dare no I don't know you're running or you know the simple one was running around the black nail. That's just, you know, that ever not be funny. That's pretty simple. I mean, but it takes, it's not a very, you know, nobody came up with the idea, like, really thought about the idea, but it was the most dangerous thing. Yeah, because you're ultimately going to get a call from the neighbor going, hey, this

is a, Chris is running around naked again. But think about it. If you're an expert at physical comedy, which he was, I mean, that had to be the funniest side. And you couldn't get mad. Chris is friallly running down, you know, doing a whole mile around the, you know, and then he had the, he had to complete the thing though. You had to, you can't back out of the dare.

Nobody likes the glitter. Nobody made these dares. When we made these dares, you had to complete the game. Now, were you the one, you couldn't back out. Were you the one mostly daring him to do the thing? Or was your, I wasn't involved in all this. I was a chicken. I would make the game up.

Yeah. I would help make the game. But I'd never do the thing. He was always doing those. You're the producer. And he's the more than that. I would get the credit. I would laugh. But by the way, what's the story with that?

That was like an instigator. He would come in. He would like, hey, it seems like he was also orchestrating a little bit of this. A lot of that. He would be one of those things where he had five kids that he'd rile up and then get him into a frenzy and then walk out the room and be like, all right,

my mom handled it. But he was an asphalt salesman, so he sold asphalt for a living. And, you know, if you ever see an asphalt crew, that's like 120 degrees on the road, and then we would sell the oil for the asphalt. And so, you know, I was tough. And we didn't do good at school.

He'd be like, I'll get you on the asphalt crew, if you like. I'm like, no. Right, there's the ultimate third pat., Kevin Standin' routine is awesome. And a lot of it, you talk about your family, you talk about Chris. He's got one joke where he talks about, I gotta find out if this was a joke or if this really happened.

The joke you had where Chris came back for Christmas with sex toys for everybody. Yeah, he thought it'd be really funny. You know, and he's like, yeah, I got this gonna be funny I'm gonna give everybody a sex toy and I go yeah, that's not gonna be funny, you know You're gonna you're gonna ruin Christmas and he bought too many of them Yeah, he's about a hundred sex toys back and so after you opened up the first one You're like, okay, I gotta you know, I got a sex toy and then and then you open like 20

I got a sex toy and then you open like 20 of them. You said, Dad's not gonna work this. And he brought us for mom, dad, the bride, the whole works. Everyone gets a sex toy or two. Yeah, and the joke ran out about after the third present. And then we're all just kind of like, now you've got to go to the hospital.

There's something wrong. So he just ran around the block naked. There's something wrong with you. So then he just ran around the block. And how old is he when this story happened? He was old, old to old to, to know, like the college. Oh, yeah, gotcha. Yeah, I was too old to be doing that.

That's hilarious. Yeah, no. I can only imagine the reaction. You need to come home. Like if I did that with my dad, well, my dad's reaction would be. The funniest thing about him is that he would do those things where he thought he, he, he,

he legitimate thought it was gonna be funny. And I'm like, this is gonna miss the mark on such a level that is like, wow, this is gonna be so embarrassing, it's gonna be great. And he was just, but he'd still commit to the joke. And that was part of his comedy where, even though you weren't really sure if this was gonna be funny, but he would go so far into it that he made it funny, even just because of his commitment to it.

Would you have to applaud? I mean, yeah, by the way, didn't in the documentary that you produced, I don't know if it was the EP or the producer who was that said, he didn't just like comedians that were funny, he liked comedians that took a lot of risks. And it seems like your brother was a risk taker with a lot of these things.

Some of this on stage. Yeah, oh, his life too. But a risk taker. What a lot of these things. Some of this on stage. Yeah, oh, life too. But I mean, on stage, he would always appreciate any kind of comedy, even like just to get up there. I mean, you did stand up just to get up there with a microphone or get up there and do improv. We were in the improv in the second city and that kind of thing.

Yeah, we all did that. And so when an improv, you're just, you're starting out with nothing just like a, you know, and a suggestion from the audience and then everybody goes from there. And so just to get up there, it takes a lot of guts. It just does. And it just takes a lot.

So he always empathizes. If you gave it a chance, if you get up there and you didn't try, he didn't like that. You got to get up there and really try. Take risks. And if you took a risk, he'd be like, I love it. You took a risk. It didn't work, but who cares? It's about trying it, taking a risk on stage or wherever you're doing it.

Sure. And that's what separates the great ones because everybody's up there. You're feeling naked, right? And you got to keep going on. And that's how you learned to persevere and come up with some good stamp, I joke. So we had a football coach that had this saying, which was funny. Like whenever you had a play that you messed up and, which was funny. Like whenever, you know, you had to play that you messed up. And then you'd go to the coach, you're like,

well, I thought I needed to pull this way and my coach would always go, well, don't think, do. And he goes, if you're going to make a mistake, make an aggressive mistake. Chris always used to say that, you know, would that apply to a stage where you might not sure what you're doing out there, but make that aggressive. And then you could kind of fake it. You're like, I know what I was doing.

Did you play football as well? Yeah. So what positions were you guys? No, we were all on the line because we were too big. Let's get all big boys on the line. Yeah. Yeah. We were not skill positions. I could just see some Farley's pulling guards over there. Yeah. Sweet left. No, we're all on the line. Yeah, we're all on the line. There was no skilled physicians. What was that like in high school? If you're in, you know, he's in 10th grade,

you're in 9th grade or whatever, senior junior locker room, football, like boys being boys, what was that like? It was a competition to see you could be the funnest. To me, we valued funny guys. Yeah. And if you were a funny guy in our school, or any of our friends, or even our family,

you rose to the top. If you could make everyone laugh, because that was to me, that was the goal to be. The funny guy, the guy that was always making people laugh. And he was always constantly the winner of that. He won that every time. And did you and your grade? Like if he was always constantly the winner of that. He won that every time, you know. And did you and your grade? Like if he was the funniest for this grade,

where you, I was in my grade, yeah, yeah, I was. I learned from everyone, it seemed natural, you know, being growing up and trying to just make, make the other guys laugh. And was everybody trying to impress dad? Like what was the impetus for everyone trying to be funny in the Farley households? Yeah, it stems from dad.

It was very funny. Really? Yeah, and I think there was always this, you just wanna make the big guy laugh. If you could make the big guy laugh, then you were in good, Well, he's not mad at you. You're not gonna interrupt.

Oh, so you're at. It's not like we didn't get in trouble. Do you think there is an element of, because when you look at comedians, what are some of the DNAs of comedians? Some of them lived a very hard life, right? Like it just wasn't a cool upbringing. So they have to figure out a way to how to use comedy, right? Some of it is maybe you're, you got a person that is such a high expectation person that

you want to humor him or perform or something like What do you know? Notice being the DNA of great comedians loan loan like a Robin Williams would you say that? I don't know. I'm curious. I know what you would say. I think they don't they don't have good You know family like it's not Aussie and Harriet, you know, I mean, it's not that our my family was you know Terrible. I always have good memories of it. But yeah, there were some struggles. My dad was a big guy. He wasn't real healthy.

There was some sadness there. There's always this combination of that going behind the scenes. I don't know of any comedians that had really perfect perfect like where your parents were. Um, constantly just listening to everything you said. I think part of being in a big family too, you get kind of lost and you want to like, you know, get more attention, you know. So I mean, there's all that dynamic going on, you know, with our house, you know. And so, you know, who knows?

It wasn't like really, I can't say, it was like really dark, but there was this, yeah, it doesn't, and I don't think comedians that I know have that kind of upbringing where it's a little difficult, little difficult. And there's either a poverty or some kind of thing going on, you know? It's crazy, I'm watching a lot of you and a lot of, you know, Chris this morning, and I'm going through a lot of the content.

Last night, today I'm driving back. I got an hour drive after I dropped this guy off. And I watched a clip this morning of Adam Sandler singing the song dedicated to your brother. I don't know if you've seen that or not. Sure. And let me tell you, I'm driving, you know, and I'm like, I can't even control my,

I have to pull over. I'm like, this can't even control my, I have to pull over. I'm like, this is the end of the song. It's ridiculously emotional. Yeah, I mean, listen, look, so I see one of the lines, I took screenshots while I'm driving. So it says, I saw him in the office, crying with headphones on,

listening to a KC in the Sunshine Band song. I said, buddy, how the hell is the making you, how the hell is that making you so sad? He said, then he laughed and said, just thinking about my dad. So you can tell the affinity this guy had for his dad. Your brother, I mean, there's got to be that love, that adoration, was it that kind of a thing?

I want to make him proud. Yeah, I love my dad, my dad was a great man. And but he had some troubles, you know And he was you know and so I think Chris always wanted to make him feel better, you know He wasn't very healthy, you know So he always wanted to make him laugh and that kind of thing when somebody's chronically ill like that You know, it's tough to have that in your family, you know

So he always wanted to make him feel better because he wasn't feeling good all the time, you know So you know, I think that's part of it, you know, so he always wanted to make him feel better because he wasn't feeling good all the time. You know, so, you know, I think that's part of it, you know, and I think Chris had a huge heart, you know, he had a huge heart. He always felt for people, it very empathetic, you know, and that kind of thing. We used to go visit old people, and he wanted to always go visit old people

in old folks, you know, but it was kind of funny too because like he'd stay too long His woman is pretty sick Chris, you know, she doesn't have that man. It was now that long to live Not I'm not leaving and the nurses staying with Barrett to be like, you know, don't yeah, I'll and don't you know Feeling crispy like I I'm crash I'm Chris. I don't know. It'll only happen. And then later, one lady is like, ah, get out of here.

And then this other, this one lady thought it. She's like, are you David, my son? And he goes, no, I'm Chris. And she's like, David, and he goes, no, no. My name's Chris. And I'm like, this is confusing. Let's get out here. Just say your David.

Just say your David. So, you know, Pat brings up the tribute that Adam Sandler's saying. Ultimately, what we're talking about is Chris's legacy. And I mean, whether it's Sandler's tribute, whether it's even, you know, comedians these days, Theo Vaughn, his set. You just had a picture of Farley on it,

of your brother, right? That was his set. That's his set, I know. And even you producing, or coexecutive producing, I am Farley speaking of his legacy. I mean, is it that's my brother, or do you wanna kinda carve your own path? How do you balance being the brother

of literally one of the greatest comedians to ever live? Yeah, I don't know. I have to live with it. So I don't try to separate. I talk a little bit about it in my act. But like I say, I'm kind of Chris Farley Light. I don't really jump around or do it.

I think like that. All of his comedy is a little different than my comedy. But I try not to run away from it. I mean, I really can't. I mean, people that talk to me all the time now, when they know that I'm Chris's brother, they wanna talk about it. So I don't mind it.

Of course. It's not something I run away from, but I'm trying to carve out my own thing. But I naturally not as bombastic as him. You're not as loud and greased as you can. Yeah, I want people want people to do things. To that point, speaking of your bits, not running away from it, you have got a great bit where you're like, you know, I'm the brother of a famous guy.

And you talk about Roger Clinton. Yeah, there's a guy. You bring up other brothers and other famous people are like, Jim Hanks. That's a guy that can't do what he's talking about. Tell that story for, I think it was Bobby, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean No, no. This guy goes, yeah, I mean, this is the kind of conversations I always wanted.

I knew Jim Hanks. You're come for me. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, and he goes, yeah, I knew Jim Hanks. I'm like, oh God, okay. What is that supposed to mean? You know, so I'm like, well, this is the kind of life that I have. I'm like, thanks Chris, you know, but, right. This is the kind of thing.

These are the kind of conversations I have with people, you know, Kevin, let me just give this. I love your stand up. It's so good. It's observational. It's based on real life. And if you love Chris Farley, you get some of that, but Kevin's his own man in a brilliant comic.

My question is, you know, he had those spade, I love spade, right? And Sandler and all those guys were so close to Chris. And when you're around you, there are similarities and personality. Do they try to hang out with you? Do they talk to you? Keep the relationship going and kind of feel like they still have Chris in their life a little bit.

Oh, sometimes I don't see him as much as I did. I think obviously life gets in the way, but I used to hang out when I was in the LA. I used to hang out with those guys a lot more than I did now. But I don't hang out with him as much, because you know, just people get families in that kind of thing. But yeah, I think probably that was some of that.

Sure. I think there was probably some of that. But I think they miss him so much and people loved him, you know. And that's the legacy that he has is his friends really loved him and everyone on SNL always spoke highly. Yeah, man, it was so powerful.

When you hear those guys, I mean, their lives were really, really ruined for a little bit. I mean, spade couldn't go to the funeral. Am I correct? Yeah, no, that was too much. She called and said, I can't really do it. And, you know, I understand. I mean, it's, it's, it was a, that was a dark, dark.

Those were dark days, you know, and my dad passed away a couple of years after that. So, we went through our tough time, definitely during those, you know, during those time. But that was for everybody. And the funeral itself was really, really. That was one of the most moving things, just to see people how much he touched people's lives, you know. So I'm proud of him for that, you know, for all of his faults that he had, he had a huge heart and he touched people and got to people.

And so he lives, that's his legacy. And so, I look back and I'm proud of him for that. So that's a great thing for sure. No one other fricking Chris Farley is, for damn sure. I mean, he just had that power. I mean, you could not watch him and not be moved, affected, and really have this lingering affection form because it was so lovable and so real and he was so daring

and willing to go out there. Yeah, he lived like, he lived like right out there, you know. And you kind of worried about him at the same time, like as his brother, I'm like, oh, it's like a tight rope, you know. Did he talk to you? Yeah, I'm like, oh, it's like a tight rope, you know? Did he talk to you? Did he talk? I was watching, I watched Howard Stern talk to Chris Rock and Arty at the same time.

And we're talking about your brother. And they're having a conversation. And what I thought about, I had a friend who was like a brother. I never had a brother growing up, but this guy was one of them. And I remember when I lost this guy. I remember where I was driving when I got the call. And it was the most painful thing. And the crazy thing about when we went to his funeral was,

we were all sitting afterwards, the boys, like 10 of us, were sitting at the table. And everybody's looking at our table saying, why aren't these guys laughing and crying at the same time? We were in tears Adam, when I tell you, we're laughing so hard and crying at the same time. And it's almost uncomfortable because the family's like, you were like, I'm telling you,

this is how we feel about your son. We loved your son but he pissed us off because we don't have him anymore. We wish he was here, We lost him at 27. But would he call you when he was in pink? Because this friend of mine, he would always call me, and I would always call him and check on him. He just tells me, this is bad.

I'm struggling with this. I'm like, what do you struggle? We'd have the conversation together. Would he reach out? Was he someone that would reach out? Would you have to reach out to him? No, no, he would reach out. But then he would isolate too, because he never wanted to be a burden, you know, to people. So the isolation is tough, especially with drugs

and it's tough. And you know, you want to try to like help as much as you can, but it's something that they have to go through themselves, you know. So it's very heartbreaking to see someone that's, you know, going through that kind of thing. And you know, you just don't know what to do. It puts everybody in this kind of thing like, I wish we could just get them somehow help them out and that kind of thing. Well, this has been part of your life. You've had every conversation, every question, every thought, everything that's gone through.

It's been 25 years, 97, right? December 18th, I want to say. So it's been 24 and a half years coming on 25 years. So you probably had every question that people ask. But I'm listening to Chris, what he's saying, and Chris Rock, he's telling Howard, the solution is stop hiring him. Or to fire him.

He says stop any, Chris's's recommendations the way you get these guys He says number one. He says a lot of the people Who are in the industry all they want to do is they want to heal them for a weekend to do the shoot and then go back and do your drugs And we'll give you everything you want But then let's put you through therapy again to clean you out It says rather than permanently fix a person stop hiring him stop giving him money Stop let him go broke so he doesn't have the money to buy the stuff And that's the only way to clean up so they're going back and forth and then Howard says percent stop hiring him, stop giving him money, stop. Let him go broke so he doesn't have the money to buy the stuff.

And that's the only way to clean up. So they're going back and forth and then Howard says, but is it really the producer's fault? Is it, he says, no, I'm not saying it's not the producer. It was a very interesting exchange. He called the Hollywood people, enablers. Yeah, he called them enablers.

Because he's such an amazing talent that they want to capitalize on that. Right. And they, but they want them to be clean for the role but then Not interfere and then already already laying who also has some major Yeah, I'm not sure if you have any relationship with already. Yeah, I know already Yeah, so it was a it was a really a very interesting conversation

I listened to that same thing it was Howard Stern and obviously Robin Quivers and Chris rock and already all talking about your brother, but it was beyond just your brother. It was people struggling and they were directing it towards already, correct? Yeah, they were directing it towards the end. They were trying to find a solution of what to do with these amazingly talented people who are struggling with addiction. Yeah. So I mean, this is right in your wheel.

I would say definitely you would have to put them in depending on how severe, you know, it can be, it can get to be very severe which it got to be with Chris and I think the only solution when it gets that way lock them in a room and and and they don't get out for a while like for a while. What's a while the final year? Yeah possibly more possibly more when it gets to be that acute. Yeah, and for sure We've seen the movie walked the line. You've seen the movie. Yeah, you remember that one scene Have you seen walked the line the story of Johnny Cash? Okay, you know walking Phoenix, right? There's this one scene where June Carter who is played by

Wreiss Wither's which she crushed about what a movie out in the that's a movie. I watch where my kids, my boys, to teach them a lesson. But the one scene where he's in the bed and the guy that was selling them this stuff comes from the side and you see the father and like come out with a shotgun, and say, hey, get the, you know, go out of here. And you see the struggle of Joaquin going through the, the, oh my God.

And I saw my body go through it. We took him to Tarzanah Rehabilitation Center. I don't know if you're familiar with Tarzanah Red Bull Tashon Center. It's closer to Woodland Hills. We took him there was like 400 bucks a day and that to be there for 14 days. And afterwards he was good for two weeks.

And his challenge was viking and he can drop the viking. He take 50, he take 50. Yeah, yeah. And a day, in a day, in a day. Yeah, and they'll do anything to get it. He take 50, he take 50, he day. And a day, and a day, and a day. Yeah, and they'll do anything to get it. I mean, they'll break it into somebody's house and take it in a day. I remember me and a friend were at the place

right across the street from Conrads. I don't know what it was called. Shaky's, shakies or shakers, whatever it's called in Glendale, off a brand, or central. So we go there and I'm sitting with them. We came after a Bible study. I was trying to introduce them to a pastor to kind of see what direction we can do to heal this guy. And he says, oh, I forgot my jacket. I want to go get it from my Mustang. And I told our mom, that's it.

Our mom, I'm going to walk out. I don't think he's getting his jacket. So I walk out right behind him. He doesn't see me. I walked to the back. And he opens the trunk. He still doesn't see me. Because I'm hiding behind an SUV. I want to know what this guy's doing He opens it up. I come right next to him. He opens the the bottle. He drops. He's about to go like this I hold his arm. I take the pills. I take the whole thing. I put on my pocket. Mm-hmm I've never in my life seen a man plead for anything the way he was pleading in that moment. Yeah I've never seen him plead for anything the way he was pleading in that moment. Yeah. I've never seen him plead for it,

and I'm watching him, and I'm seeing the pain this guy's going through, and I'm like, dude, I'm telling you, I'm not, you're not gonna get it from me. He says, Pat, my body hurts, I'm telling you, you just give me five, I'm like, I'm not giving it to you, bro. Three o'clock in the morning,

our moment comes out, he's crying for two hours. Obviously, I didn't give it to him that night. I took it, I walked that and I wouldn't have found that who was selling it to him. So I went and had a conversation with a guy that was selling it, it wasn't a conversation, but we had a situation with that guy. And a dentist was selling these vikings to him because it was like a way of, yeah, it was a dentist because he was making five, ten bucks a pill, whatever it was. And there was so much connection, but okay, we can get rid of the dentist. There's going to be another doctor that's going to prescribe legally.

We can get rid of the guy that was selling it to him and do whatever we want to him and eliminate him. There's going to be another guy that's going to eventually, as much as the survivor has the pain of what else could I have done, I think eventually goes back to the individual. The individual has to be willing to go through it and as much support and change you put. Yeah, man. But you have to get them off, there's a step.

You have to get them off initially, like which is tough, the withdrawals and all that stuff. Then there just has to be, and I'm gonna say it, you have to turn to God, you have to make that part of it, because I think the human being can only go so far and with anything, that goes with anything. When you're struggling with anything, we can only go so far, and if we don't reach out,

we just, no, it's not gonna work. We're meant for that, I believe. You know, it's crazy to say that. You know, it's not gonna work. We're meant for that. I believe. You know, it's crazy you say that. You know, it's crazy you say that. We're at Bible study one night in Pasadena. Pass mass, I don't know what the church was called. I wanna hear your thoughts.

And he's sitting there saying, when we're talking, he's praying, the pastor's praying over for 30 minutes and it's fully in tears. This is a tough guy. This is the first guy in Wilson Jr. Haskar got into fight. He's the first guy that had a punch in the face.

Like he's not like a lightweight. We would fight him and I all the time. And we were best of buddies, right? And he had a challenge of trying to please his dad. Yeah. So you know the whole thing about pleasing, he's like, I don't think I'm ever gonna please him. And it was a list of people that he was going through.

And no matter how much we try to get him to go through that face, always coming back and feeling guilty like he can't please folks. Yeah. Yeah. Well, was Chris going through the side? Was he going to church? Was he going through?

You know, we're Catholic. And I think that he had, you know, the, I think there's a thing where he would go to church and he believed in Christ and he believed in that kind of thing. So, but there's an extra step where he just, for each person, I mean, there's a thing, you can kind of like give it lip service and that kind of thing.

Like, I go to church, I don't know what's going on, but to really give yourself to that is a different level. There's a different level there where you have to like really let a lot of stuff go. And that means 90% of show business and all that other stuff. You have to let a lot of stuff go, you know, and just live and just be and understand that, you know, none of this really matter. You know, there's one other dynamic there, too. You know, Chris was like in his early 30s, right? Mid 30s when it happened. 33. You know, guys at that age oftentimes are married, right? Or they help a girl. And you never think about it with Chris Farley. So he probably was on his own a lot at home traveling New York to Chicago.

And sometimes if you have a strong female or wife, you know, a girlfriend, they can be there to monitor it and maybe, you know, be there and maybe keep them from, you know, some of these bad habits and whatnot. But he was living alone, right? When in Chicago? Yeah. And that's another thing I would say to anybody that's having trouble with drugs. Get, get, find a girl that can, that's good for you. get get find a girl that can that's good for you

Not not somebody that's gonna be bad for you But that's tricky with with men anyway to find the right woman that can really kind of be there for you in Marri or in be faithful to her and and that'll get you through a lot too. Yeah, you know Definitely, you know it's crazy about what you just just said. So you're the age 33, right? You know who died at the age of 33? Christ, yeah. Christ, Alexander the Great, John Balushi, Nipsey Hussle, the list, it's a very interesting, that 33,

the list definitely wasn't Christ. That's right. That's right. You might have been Balushi, but you wouldn't have been Balushi. Yeah, all these stories, what's been your experience with drugs, partying, alcohol? You know, listen, I wish Cal, I mean, I have my struggles too, you know, and so I go,

I do go to program and that kind of thing, I'm off of it all of it now, you know, but, yeah, but to me, it's definitely therapy and God, you know, and I'm Catholic and I go back to my faith and I try to make it a part of my life, not just like something that I talk about, you know, I try to make it a part of my life. It doesn't always, you know, I'm a still flawed person, but I have to make that part of my life, otherwise it does not work for me. When you see, I mean, obviously we are approaching this endemic phase of what has been going on with COVID, but part of the fallout of everybody being trapped in their house for the last

couple years is a lot of people are utilizing drugs in alcohol more than ever. And we're seeing a lot of overdoses. Yeah. So being that this is more pervasive than ever because of the pandemic does it get you angrier than ever? Do you want to speak out more about it? Is it closer to home when you hear these stories?

What's your thoughts on just everything? I think in general, I think there's this walking away from God. I think the whole country in the world is we're walking away and we're in a dangerous spot You know, I think that you can't do that when when the society goes away from God then We're seeing it. I mean we're seeing it, you know, we go into materialism I mean, I think we're you know in Catholic faith, we're falling individuals from the start. So we're gonna go, we're gonna, we're prone to materialism, wealth, greed, all that kind of stuff, gluttony, all that kind of stuff. Whatever the

suddenly, seven deadly sin, whatever, whichever one you have, which you all have, you're gonna gravitate towards that. That's just the human nature. So that's what we're saying, I think. I think that's what we're saying. We're just saying about, you know, when we don't need God, well, we're gonna go somewhere else. You also have pretty strong opinions politically. I mean, you'll say some stuff at times and...

I don't like to get canceled or anything. No, not getting canceled, but you'll say what's on your mind. You don't hold back. You know, I try. Very confusing time, but I try to, you know, I see it now and I'm, I look at it and I'm like,

I think, yeah, we all have to speak up. But we do talk a lot about politics in this country. That's for sure. And I think there is other things than politics. And my act, I don't go too far into it just because there's so much politics everywhere you go. So I try to get a little more slice life stuff, you know. You know what I do like?

You know what I do like with what's, so every once in a, like during COVID, like all the hospitalization, new heroes were risen, right? We were kind of looking at people and saying, look, I don't know how you view COVID. You got to respect these nurses that were working double shifts and all of a sudden nurses became heroes, right? You saw these videos of nurses coming home and they can't see their kid and that one where the guy puts a glass

When he's trying to hug his kid and kid is like hug me and I don't know if you see that clip It was very emotional like okay. I wonder how it is to be a nurse today But I think what the last few years have done And maybe this it's been like been like this forever, but I think comedians have become very important. I think comedians have become very important where a Bill Marr, who's a comedian, is making everybody on both sides of the aisle say, what the hell are you doing?

Right? And then you watch and Rogan, who's a comedian is addressing every issue that's on out there from a standpoint of, I don't know, I'm trying to learn myself, but now I know and here's what I found out and maybe this and maybe that. But look, I'm a comedian, right? And you see Rick and John Stewart played and Ricky Jervais and Ricky Jervais and Chappelle, especially Chappelle, with some of the topics he touched and said, oh my God, the trans stuff. And we'll submit to get that memo, right?

So you see some of this stuff that's going on and then you see what happened with Will and, you know, with Chris Rock. What are your thoughts? When you saw that, what was your initial reaction? Right, I mean, I think what's, what we saw was everybody retreated to their homes and then we went online and you can manipulate that online.

We saw that with Twitter, but in a standup show, everybody retreated to their homes and then we went online and you can manipulate that online. We saw that with Twitter, but in a standup show, hey, just a crowd of people in my, in microphone, who's going to stop that? You know, words do have a lot of power. Words, the words coming out of my mouth have a lot of power. That's what a comedian's realized. Like, I'm just speaking words well. Words have a lot of power.

So when you have just a basic thing of me talking to you and you're not gonna, you're not gonna censor this, you're not gonna censor that. So stand up becomes really powerful because like, well, I can talk to this crowd here. And I think when a comedian, we're just used to having that kind of power and like, we're not used to being that kind of power and like, you know, we're not used to being censored

Every comedian does not like that. Oh, it's just great on us, you know, because that's our whole thing We need to say our words right, you know, and so yeah, that is your toolbox words that are coming out of your mouth Words that are coming out of your mouth exactly the ability to say whatever words I want to say so exactly the ability to say whatever words I want to say. So, yeah, when obviously, as a comedian to see somebody come up on stage is terrifying to me, I mean, I've had a bottle thrown at me out of the blue but that was terrifying enough. But yeah, there's like, for every comedian

that's ever had that, that's a frightening thing that especially Will Smith, he's gigantic coming at at you, like I could see Chris's face, he's like, what's happening? He didn't move, he just stood there like almost face forward. Like what is happening right now? No, it's in surreal, I mean surreal situation. You know, I mean everybody's talking, but he did like is the guy on SNL said the other day,

he's like, we feel like we've been talking about it for five years now, right? Well, did you hear what Ricky... Yeah. So here's what Ricky Jury said. I don't know if it was on the view, a couple of these. Yeah, it was on the timeline was.

And he said the following, he said, I would have, I'll just read the whole thing to you. So he says, I'll get out of the way. I have not, I've gotten no, no, we'll smith the material. I've trended, I trended when that happened and I was not even here. What has it got to do with me?

People were going what they have, no, no, no, anyways. And then he finally says, well, nothing, as I would not have made a joke about his wife's hair, I would have made a joke about her boyfriend. Okay. So what she said, you know what Ricky said.

So, and by the way, no one Ricky, you think Ricky would have done that from state. I actually believe he would have done it. Sure. I think he was going to go in and go to the next. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And by the way, here's what happened with a couple things.

Will Smith's contract gets pulled from Academy Awards Lab, the Daily Caller story. Netflix and Sony have stepped away from their projects with Will Smith a week after he slapped Chris Rock at the Academy Awards, upcoming projects that Smith, that Smith expected a complete have now officially halted as a result of the now infamous slap, the Netflix film, Fast and Loose and Sony's highlight

highly anticipated movie, Bad Boys 4. Wow, Bad Boys 4. Have both been put on hold. I doubt any big studio of streamer is going to take a chance in signing Will Smith until Smith's brand recovers until the process is underway, media analyst Jeff Boxett. You think these are the right ones that are making?

I do, for definitely. I don't think there's a punishment big enough for Will Smith right now. You know, when I watch what he did, and it wasn't just spontaneous, and here's a couple of other things. When he was screaming at him and F bombing him, did you see the rage in his face? I mean, that was not some little throwaway line.

Here's the other thing. Will Smith won the Academy Award and then he had that whole speech about what he did, right? About how he's gonna be the defender of, you know, people that are abused. What if he hadn't slapped Chris Rock? Was he gonna use the same speech? That thing seemed very, very polished

and it would have seemed a strange speech for someone that was playing Serena Williams' dad in a movie, right? So I look, CAA had like some big time meetings I guess over the past few days. What are they going to do? One of the founders, Brian Lord wanted to get rid of him. One of the other founders who represents him personally, you know, fought to keep him. They didn't drop him like they did Harvey Weinstein and anybody else that kind of gets in trouble in Hollywood. So, you know, I just, the more I watch this, the, if you would think of one Hollywood star that would be least likely to do that.

Isn't that funny? It's Will Smith or he's one of them. He just doesn't have that reputation or at least he used to have a reputation as being that nice guy, that non-confrontational guy. Apparently, don't know him as well, but he deserves to suffer some sort of career follow-out for this. I'm not down for everybody just getting canceled, but usually people are getting canceled for things that they didn't have any ill will toward. They didn't do it intentionally. They just had an opinion or a belief. And people just decide to cancel them,

but to walk on stage and steal everybody else's night, which is what he did and slap him. And it's just unbelievable. I mean, and then Chris Rock, he's just playing it so cool, isn't he? Whoever gets that first interview with Chris Rock, that is gonna be unbelievable. And he already did his first standup

and he says, if you think I'm gonna have any Will Smith material prepared, I have nothing for further. He's still thinking about it. No, he's gonna sell it for $6,200 million to net for a second. I gotta tell you, I respectfully disagree with our friend Tom's enter here.

This is just another example. Like what did he really do? He slapped another grown man in the face. Oh, give me a break. I know that you slapped a lot of men. Tom, what did you do? What did you go to? At the Oscars?

I don't know. I woke up on stage and slapped another man in front of millions of people. All right, hear me out here, gay. Number one, before. By the way, Tom, we missed you. Yeah, we missed you, man. But before this, you know, monstrosity of slapping someone, did anyone give two shits

about the Oscars? The Oscars should be thanking Will Smith, number one. And so should Chris Rock. Chris Rock was career number one. I was a huge Chris Rock fan in the 90s, but he hasn't really done a lot of time. Okay, time is your wrong. You're wrong. Tom, let me get to the, we'll get to you. You've already been offended by Will Smith, but this goes to a bigger thing. And it goes to the point of cancel culture. If we're gonna start canceling people because we don't like what they did, how far does this go down? They tried to cancel. Rogan, okay?

They've been trying to cancel Shepel. We're talking about canceling comedians and canceling entertainers. They tried to cancel Bill Marr, people on the left, start trying to cancel Bill Marr, even though he's been an advocate. First thing that you said, Kevin, was, hey, we're gonna talk politics.

I don't wanna get canceled. Where the fuck are we at as a society? That you have to actually worry about getting canceled for having opinions. That's sort of the beauty of P.B.D. podcasts what we're doing by entertainment is, unless you're saying things that are completely extreme, complete misinformation, complete hate speech,

say what the hell you want to say and let the market determine what's right and what's wrong. But it's usually the people that are trying to cancel people, are fringe people who get all worked up in a frenzy and then try to cancel people. Shout out to Chris Farler right there. But even you, bro, you've been in Hollywood. I mean, you experienced this. Why is cancel culture so pervasive right now?

But Kevin, before you jump in on that, weren't you starting by defending Will Smith? I mean, that's completely different. There's some trolls on Twitter. I'm not defending Will Smith. What I'm, my whole thing is cancel culture here. If people don't want to go see Will Smith's movie, don't see his fucking movie. But don't say that Will Smith can't work anymore.

I'm going to be talking about here. No timeout, he assaulted someone on stage. I don't think anyone cares about that. I mean, but you're equating Chris. If Chris Rolts didn't. If Chris Rolts didn't. It's equating Chris. If Chris Rol's did it, slapping a guy. It's like a different thing. Chris Rolk didn't press charges. It sounds like you want to press charges

because you almost got to that. Not at all. I don't think I have like a $1 million opinion here. Point is, I want to get your thoughts on cancel culture. Well, now I think cancel culture is this giant brush. I mean, we can be nuanced about this. You know, I mean, we, you know, I think that's like, well, yeah, Will Smith can never work again.

All right. Is there a nuance to approach to this? Can we, maybe he shouldn't go to, he's already canceled from the, from the academy and he's already, you know, done his own, he's already thrown himself on the sword in that kind of thing. But what is the Oscars gonna do now?

I think the Oscars will probably You know give him some kind of a punishment. I don't think that there he's not gonna get off without a punishment from them but I think once once once all the punishment is dealt out to him They'll probably he'll probably work again, you know, I would imagine I suppose out to him, they'll probably, he'll probably work again, you know, I would imagine. I suppose I, and we're talking about one of the greatest performers of all time, maybe not working again because he slapped someone. Yeah, but time out, no one's saying that he shouldn't work again. I'm saying there should be some repercussions for walking on stage and slapping a man

as they can't be a part. As a standout. Right. He'll just offer not a company to do whatever he wants. As a standout, but that's so egregious because it's something that we all fear as we're on stage. Somebody coming up either with a gun or something like that. Well, that's what happens is,

you know, if you've ever been on stage, you're blinded by the lights. The audience is kind of this mob out front of you. So you have this real visceral fear of like, somebody coming out of the dark, you know, and how dare you say that, that kind of thing. So as a standup, I hope that, yeah, because I don't want this,

you're like, oh, we'll Smith got away with it, and I'm gonna do it at Farley's show. I don't want that to happen. So I hope that something's deterrent there. Like, you can't come out of the stadium. You can't come out of the stands. You can't do that, you know. So, at one time, one time, they're doing the red carpet walk,

whatever it is. A guy comes and talks, I don't know if you've seen this, comes and talks to Will Smith and tries to kiss Will and will slap them in the face. Yeah. Nobody reacts to it. Well, listen, a guy tries to kiss them in the face. Yeah, nobody reacts to it. Well, listen, a guy tries to kiss you in the face. You don't like that.

You slap him. Everybody says, OK, cold. No problem. We move on. You know, the part like think about it from this standpoint. Chris is a performer. You're a basketball player. If you're a basketball player and somebody walks

into the floor and does anything to you, you're not a player. Meaning, will is not the player in that situation. Will is part of the audience in that situation. It doesn't matter. Like, let's just say President Obama goes to a game or Trump goes to a game or you go to UFC fight. Yes, you're a powerful person, but if you step in the octagon and slap someone in the face, did you can't do that? That's basic protocol, the same way as Conor cannot step out and when Kabeep stepped out and started chasing other people

and fighting guys, you can't do that. There's certain protocols that there's accountability. The question isn't that. The question is, okay, he's gonna keep his, what do you call it? He's gonna keep his Oscar. Fine, he resigned. He can, what do you call it? He's gonna keep his Oscar. Fine. He resigned.

He can't vote anymore, whatever the, the, the, you know, what do you call it? Whatever things that he loses, right? Okay. So go and see other people who have been canceled. And then how long did we get over it? Our conversation last night on the drive to Miami was what? America's a very, we forgive very quickly.

Except if you deal with kids and if you deal with certain things. So Kevin Spacey is Kevin going to come back anytime soon and shoot a movie? You think he's going to do something and people are going to let that go? You know, it hasn't happened yet. Okay, it's been a couple years. I think he will. Do you think America's okay if Kevin did a movie and did watch him? Like, House of Cars next one comes out.

Do you think people are going to watch it? I think Faye's of great acting a movie and did watch him. Like House of Cars next one comes out. You think people are gonna watch it? I think Fires of great acting. But you think people are over that? You know, is it, you know, did he go to jail for it? Or some people are gonna say, well, innocent until proven guilty, no one's, you know, he's been accused, but he's not gone to court yet.

So how long will it take? The real question is, how long before people forgive him to come back and perform? I think it depends on how much talent you have a lot of times too. Well, it's got a lot of talent. Yeah, he does. Kevin, maybe you won the best actor without a doubt.

That we have. You know, how about Ron Arthest, right? Isn't this kind of a similar situation where they're throwing beer at him and they go into the stance yet? He at least was punished for a little while. He couldn't play in the NBA. That's all I'm saying about Will Smith.

We don't want it to cancel him. But hopefully he can learn from this and there are some sort of punishment that comes from this. By the way, why does Chris Farley decide, or I mean Chris, why does Chris Rock decide if charges are going to be pressed? Isn't that usually, I know that this happens a lot, but you would think the police see a crime in their mind being committed, they just arrest somebody. It seems strange when you have to go to the victim and say, do you want to press charges.

Also, yeah, I agree. I mean, it should be the cops probably do that i mean that's what happens in the domestic batteries i think that the matter of the wife sometimes is no don't don't touch them i think the cops still uh... arrested but i think that um... also this has to do with the these sexual crimes you know like if you look at

the three guys that are uh... a band from the Oscars Harvey Weinstein and Roman Polansky and then who's the third guy? I don't know well There's a guy needs to gif and but he's not yet right but they're all sexual crimes Yeah, exactly. That's that's something to do. I don't think we forgive the sexual stuff I don't think we do no. I don't think Harvey's ever gonna be forgiven That's why I'm saying Kevin is in the middle of maybe never being forgiven. Some people would say never, but will what he did, you know, how long?

Six months, four months. I think I'm gonna put a son in that room. By the summer we went on. Well, I was speaking of sexual crimes. You see who's getting a lot of heat right now is Jim Kerry. We see what happened with him. I'm CDS. No, he came out and he basically was like, if I was Christopher.

$200 million lost. I would file this ridiculous lawsuit and basically defending Chris Rock defending comedy. And someone goes, oh, you know the beautiful thing about the internet? Jim Carrey, the shit doesn't go away. So fast forward or reverse to a clip of him, when I mean, after your brother passed away, arguably Jim Carrey took the mantle

of the most outlandish over the top comedian. I mean, fair point. Mm-hmm. He wins the award. I think it was comedian of the year, whatever it was, MTV award. Yeah. And the presenter of the award was none other than Clueless star Alicia Silverstone. Oh, yeah.

Silverstein. Silverstein. Silverstein. Silverstein. Silverstein. Silverstein. Silverstein. He wins the award. And please give it up for Jim Carey. He comes on stage, grabs her, two hands on the face, boom, laser key. Huge kiss right on her face and holds, right?

Yeah. Good five second kiss. Yeah. She's shocked. Yeah. The whole crowd is in an up war. Keep in mind, he is the performer of performers of that time. There's probably 2,000-ish.

I don't know if you want to pull this up. But now basically, people are like, oh, Jim Carrey, you have an opinion? Well, let's reset, roll the clip. Boom. And now he's kind of catching backlash. Can't pull it. So it's almost like, if you speak out and have an opinion,

they're going to double back to something you did 20 years ago Sure, and they're gonna try to cancel you now Jim Kerry. So it's a very thin line that you have to balance right now Yeah, it is What does that tell you though? What does that tell you? I mean, that tells you you know before you're gonna judge Just kick back a little bit and you know If you walked on water go ahead and judge all you want. If you haven't, you know. So I, again, I think America's very forgiven

at the America moves on from certain things. This being one of them is just a matter of how long. I don't know if it's gonna be a six month, 12 month, 24 months. Bill Marce had to follow on. Bill Marce said, criticizing for telling Jada Pinkett Smith to put a wig on it, right, after the Oscar slap. He says, I mean, Alopecia, it's not leukemia, okay?

Alopecia is when your hair falls out. There are worse things. He returned to the subject later in this show stating, if you are so lucky in life as to have that be your medical problem, just say thank God. It's not life threatening. It's part of for most people, 80% of men, 50% of women, it's part of aging,

Mark continued, aging is trust me. I know, it's the degeneration of the flesh. It happens to all of us. And you know, just put on a effin' wig on, like everybody else at the Oscars, if it bothers you so much. The TV host has been heavily criticized for his comments, which have branded hateful, okay with Bill Marseys.

He knew he was gonna get heat when he wrote the lines when he knew he was gonna say those those are gonna track He but he doesn't care. I don't think no, it doesn't care. I think this speaks to a lot of You know when they they made it they have an open marriage, I guess, you know And so they made a joke earlier in the show about, them having an open marriage and that kind of thing. So, I don't know, it's one of those things where, and she went on, I think they're under a lot of stress that they seem to be under Jada and Will.

It seemed to me, I hope maybe he gets some help. I think he is getting some help, isn't he, or anything, or I don't know if he is, or. They said it's healing season is what Jada put out. It's healing season, which I don't know what you want to see. I think they should get a divorce. I'm convinced they should get a divorce.

I'm convinced don't be surprised if in the next six, 12, 24 months you get a tweet or an Instagram post from both of them saying, we have decided to go our own separate ways after being together for 25 years. We love each other. Pop, pop, pop, pop. And but here's what we're doing. This is the love on my life, but you know, you know, we, whatever.

You'll see something like a baseless script coming out. Kevin, let me ask you while we're on this topic in Tom lives in LA. So and Pat's from there. So he's probably has a strong opinion. You moved out of LA five years ago. Yeah, but I mean, you're farly, you're a farly. You've got inroads with Hollywood. You know all the Hollywood stars.

Yeah, you know, we're talking about the Oscars the night of the year for Hollywood. I guess what's your take on the wokeness in Hollywood? I don't want you to get canceled here, Kevin. But what's your take on just what's happening and how left they've gone and how you have to worry about what you're saying. And you got the hell out of there

not for political reasons, I don't know, but just your take on Hollywood these days. I know that I wasn't, I'm not crushing in Hollywood. I don't have anything going on. I'm not competing with Brad Pitt for the role of Troy anymore. I'll get my how I five always every once in a while or, you know, I'll do an episode I could, you know, once in a while.

Yeah, curb, you know, those guys were great. You know, but no, I'm not, you know, so I decided, let's do some stand up. I focus on my stand up and let's, you know, I get the role whenever I can get the role. Cause yeah, it got to be weird with a lot of their politics in Hollywood. It just got to be a little scary. With this cancel thing going on, and it's such that if you think even a little differently,

then you're not in the club. It is a club. Hollywood is very much of a country club. And who's running the club? Is it the billionaires? Is it the studios? Is it the producers? Is it rich people? The studios, the people with all the money, you know?

And- It's fallen apart though. The money in the control, and it is a club that you are either in or you're not. I mean, it's like a country club. I mean, we don't want this guy in. I mean, do we want this guy in? We don't want this guy in.

And it's gotta be it, it's like high school. It's very much gossipy. There's a lot of gossip. I don't know, gossip is so corrosive. I don't like to, even when I feel like gossiping, I don't like to gossip about things. And that's not the whole town is a gossip mill. And so that's a corrosive thing on your soul. So that's why people go, oh God, this town is so gross

You know because everybody's just talking about it everybody. What's your take on that center? You live there? Yeah, Hollywood had a pat you made a little comment there But Hollywood just feels different LA feels different. It's not as glamorous. I think the glamour's gone I mean, that's the sad thing for me You drive down sunset boulevard and you drive through Beverly Hills. It's still great. Believe me, it's not that bad. I mean, and I hope that the pandemic is pretty much over. Restaurants are full.

There is a buzz. There's an energy. But if everybody remembers, it's kind of that first time they go to California and how they feel. The ocean's still beautiful. There's still a lot of great places to go, but just that spirit in the air just doesn't feel,

is great. To me, the glamour part of it, it seems like Hollywood is okay not being glamorous anymore, and I don't know why. And I miss that, and I think the rest of the world, the rest of America looks for Hollywood for that. It's a release. And they're so obsessed about bringing up all these things

that people already have to deal within their life, and they're getting bombarded with it every single way They turn and Hollywood should be something else a diversion and they've gotten away from that and it's unfortunate Plus the whole business is changing streamers are taking over we saw that during the Oscars Now that's good because there's so many more places to make content and if you've got product and if you have something you want to pitch You've got 15 to a hundred places you can take it if you're something you want to pitch, you've got 15 to 100 places you can take it. If you're an actor, you can stay busy. So it's still great.

The world needs the content that Hollywood produces, but it's unfortunate. You know, I've just told myself until the whole, until shit hits the fan, I'm totally still good with LA and we're lucky for where we live, right? So it's a great place to bring up kids, you know, near the water in a very safe community. So we're blessed and we're lucky with that. And I love LA, I really do, and I'm involved in it, and I'm out in it every single day. And I pardon me sad, because I grew up

in a small town in Minnesota, I'm from the Midwest too, Kevin, and I wanted to get to California. I wanted to get to LA, and I'm panim sure you, growing up in Iran, there was this magical thing about Hollywood. I'm working on a new project right now Iran, there was this magical thing about Hollywood. I'm working on a new project right now. I'll be able to share some stuff later in a couple months with someone a very, very high profile person

who also grew up in Iran and came to America and made a big name for himself. But it was all because of Hollywood. He wanted to get there, Beverly Hills, California and Hollywood. So I am an internal optimist. I always assume the best is going to come. And I'm never going to let it bring me down. I'm just a little bit sad that it wasn't what

it was 25 years ago. You know what wins? You know what wins? You know what I trust. Let me tell you what I trust. I trust capitalism. Yeah. Let me explain to what I mean by trust capitalism. Here's how I trust capitalism. People call it Dana White. Well, you know, let me tell you, FC, this, this, this is that what is the no i'd say why should go compete go to start your own uofc you can do it nobody holds you back and i don't like uh... joe rogan's podcast he's wrong bro

go start your own podcast and you share your thought i don't like the fact that you talk about capitalism dude why don't you go start showing shown you talk about anti-capitalism and see if there's an argument i don't like the fact that this, so watch what happened. Elon Musk buys 9.2%. And everybody was like, oh, it's just a passive, passive, passive position, right?

And I said, it's not passive, a guy like that's never gonna do passive. You know what news just came out an hour ago? Elon Musk joins, Twitter's, board of directions, Teases, significant improvement. Did you see what Elon tweeted yesterday? Did you see what Elon tweeted yesterday? Go to Elon's tweet yesterday.

Yeah, the poll. Go to Elon's tweet yesterday. And look what Elon tweeted. This is why you trust capitalism and those who work in government don't like capitalists. Right. Because capitalists know how to fight it. Okay, so watch this.

You look, click on that. Do you want an edit button on Twitter? You know what, an edit button is? You know how you got it on Instagram. You got it on Facebook. You got it everywhere. You did it on the poll by the way. What's that?

You see how he's spelled yes. That's funny. Yeah, so, so anyways, he puts, do you, do you want an edit button? What does this mean to you? He's already insinuating. We're going to improve Twitter. button? What does this mean to you? He's already insinuating we're going to improve Twitter. What does that edit button mean to you? Use Twitter a lot.

No, but who cares the whole premise behind it is, I'm here to improve and change things with Twitter. That's all he's saying. So in Hollywood, go to Hollywood. So you know, people are like, part of the, oh, you cannot be on the inside and all this stuff. Well, this happened in high school. The guys that were the football cool guys

that you can't be on the inside. Fast over 10 years later, the guy that you didn't allow to get into the inside is now running a company called Facebook. And who are you now? You're still a waiter at that one place? Well, Zuck one, just so, you know, so capitalism wins, whoever's willing to improve and take things, and the moment,

this is the biggest thing about capitalism that sucks. So I was watching Batman this weekend. My kids are into this whole Batman thing. I watched the last Batman, couldn't stand it, but the kids started wanting to watch Batman begins, and I said, okay, fine. So we're on the third Batman, which is the dark night rises, you know,

that whole dark night rises, and there's a Batman, which is the dark night rises, you know, that whole dark night rises. And there's a scene, which is incredible. The scene is when he's in the cave. You know the cave when he's trying to come out. I don't know if you can you pull up dark night rises, put the cave and he's talking to this blind man. Have you seen when he's talking to this blind man? This scene folks, this scene is a dark night rises.

It's gonna give you the chills here. So a blind man, I'm gonna read to you what he says. Okay, so he's in there, he's trying to climb out of this cliff, this what he call it, this cave, he can't get out. Okay, every time he tries to get out, he can't get out. He comes up, he jumps up, he falls down. He comes up, he jumps up, he falls down. He comes up, he jumps up, he falls down, right? This whole thing.

Then one of the guys, when he falls down, one of the men says, why do you keep trying? You're not going to make it. He says, what do you mean I'm not going to make it? He says, you're not going to make it. He says, but the child made it. He says, yeah, but you're not the child. He says, why not? He says, because the child didn't live a life of luxuries.

You did. The child didn't grow up with everything. You did. The child had nothing to lose. You did. And he goes and he says, but I'm gonna make it. So he comes up, stirring, doing abs and pushups and all this up. He goes again, there's a jump you gotta make.

He doesn't make it. He falls down. Then he drops and he sees this blind man, type in blind man that he's talking to, this blind man put blind man. Yeah. So then he sees this blind man that click on that right there, the one at the top. No, no, top left, top left, top left, you had it. Top left. Right there. Go. Yeah, right there. But not, yeah, put that scene right there. So he's talking to this man and look what the man says. Here's a script, I'll read it to you.

He says to him, he says, you do not fear death. You think this makes you strong, but it makes you weak. He says, what do you mean? He says, how can you move faster than possible, fight longer than possible without the most powerful impulse of the spirit, the fear of death. You don't fear death because you know when you're like, I don't fear that, I don't fear anything. Bruce Wayne says, I do fear death. I fear dying in here while my city burns and there's no one to

save it. Then the blind man says, then make the climb. He says, how? He says, as the child did, without the rope, then fear will find you again. And he makes this climb, and he jumps. He says, I'm not using the rope. He jumps. He makes it. He goes all the way out, then throws a rope, and all the people that are in prison come out. What's the moral of the story?

The people in Hollywood have had a rope. They've lived the life of luxuries. And there's always gonna be the entrepreneur that has nothing to lose. The guy that's sitting there saying, I don't have the luxury of a rope. I don't have the luxury of a gift and a or this producer. That guy that's got my back, I'm gonna figure this thing out.

And then what do you produce? You produce a Netflix. Then when you produce a Netflix, who Blackpuster didn't want to buy for $50 million, what does Netflix do? Net every big Hollywood producer goes to sleep fearing Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, all of these guys. The game in Hollywood has completely changed.

A guy like me can say Kevin, why don't we make a movie? How much of a budget do we need? He says $2 million, we make a movie, we go of a budget do we need? He says $2 million. We make a movie. We go out and put it out there. Independently not needing these big guys. And I think can do $200 million. Elon Musk can go buy a Twitter and say,

I'm sorry guys, you guys are bullying and silencing and censorship, no problem. I'm gonna buy your company. That's why you got to trust capitalism. And that's why I think Hollywood's not in the same place because they can't play those power plays they once could play due to capitalism. That's true and that is always gonna be true I mean if you look at like Atlanta started the studios have been Atlanta VanCourer and all these places

You know if you open up the tax base you can get a lot of studios and make a Hollywood in Atlanta You know this is capitalism. This is why this country is the best country on the planet because we allow that stuff. And yeah, Twitter obviously is going to change. And overnight by a guy who was a billionaire and he wants to change it. Well, he's going to change it. And that's what happens.

And that is the beauty of being in this country. And obviously the trajectory of all companies, they get fat and people get fat and they start making mistakes. You know, here's a good one thing to watch. Here's I make this prediction and it's going to happen. Guarantee. Because you've never been a wrong time.

Guarantee. But watch the headlines. The headlines on Elon Musk going forward. Everything's going to be negative. They are going to be ripping him in Main Street media. They're going to find flaws in him. I saw one the other day. Here is the headline. Elon Musk wants to kill baby seals or something. I thought I saw it on insider. I mean, so now that he's on the inside and he's going to be on the board of directors with Twitter, they're going to go after him personally. You're going to see a ton of negativity.

What do you think? Do you think there's a possibility? He gets comfortable in the board of directors here in the next few months. Maybe buys more stock, because he's not done, right? He's gonna buy more. How does he handle Trump? Is he gonna say it's okay for him to come back? That's gonna come up at some point.

And it's gonna be- Who makes those decisions though? Does the board make that decision, Pat? Who's gonna end up making that decision forward? Yeah, I think so. So that's the part where Dorsey is Getting a little bit more credit now to say I'm not the one. It's a board that votes these types of things So nobody knows where Dorsey's vote was some of the people on the inside obviously know and then he finally said

Yeah, I also voted for it that we got to get him out right Elon can get in there and say no Yeah, we may want to change it, but remember, he's only got one seat. He's only got one seat. He doesn't have the majority. He's only got one seat. So he can get in there and try to persuade and say things, but they can still say no.

And gradually what Elon can do is one by one, by one, by another three percent here, by another two percent here, by another five percent here, by another three percent here by another two percent here by another five percent here by another eight percent here and in all of a sudden This just happened many many times. We see one move of his five. I mean, he's he's five steps down the road on this thing How does it work with the board? How many members? I don't know we can find out how many parents always an odd number So you know protect the voting. So here you go. How many board members are they have one two three four five six seven keep going eight nine 10 11 a company this size gonna be 11 okay nine or 11. They're having lovinable. Okay, and how do you become a board member to our company like this Urgent it's you generally no it depends on what percentage you own okay, and if you buy in part of the

on what percentage you own. Okay. And if you buy in, part of the arrangement could be that you get onto the board seat, but when you are the largest shareholder now of Twitter, Tidewood Morgan Stanley Dean-Witter and your name is Elon Musk, the guys that are in the board right now want you to be also a board member because they don't want you to do anything reckless that's going to hurt. So now we want you in there as well. It's almost like a mutual thing where they want both to be in there.

But again, I highly doubt what Tom just said right there. I think this is one of his next five, 10, 15 moves. You know, here's the other thing too, is a lot of these people are going to be opposed to Elon Musk, just in general. They're not going to like him maybe politically or on some level. But Elon just made everybody on that list a lot of money yesterday. Did you see the volume of trading? It was 26%.

That's how that's how that was the jump in the stock. There was like 212 million, you know, shares sold and the volume was 212 million as opposed to like 1.5 million on Friday. So if the stock goes up 25%, he made everybody on that board a lot richer. So how can you hate him that much? So he's gonna have a lot more power once he starts buying more stock and what he owns 9.2% right now.

And that's just in its just Tuesday, right? And they know, they know one tweet is gonna get them. So last night we're having dinner, okay. One of the guys owns the, one of the foremost expensive cards in the world. Remember, the guy owned a Honda Swagner TTO6 SGC 5 is what it was a $25 million card. The guy who eats it all the best restaurants. The guy that eats at the best restaurants. Then another guy owned a couple of 52 tops Mickey Mantle, which is like a $5 million card. They're selling the $10 million

Spider-Man issue number one. I think it was great at eight and a half, which is pretty insane. There's only two nines in the world. They're selling that for $10 million. So when you get into the card community and you own a card that you also own and you also own, everybody here wants that card to be valued more, right? So for example, one card is a Mickey Mantle PSA 10. It's sold for $11 million in 2017, right?

You know what they're saying is value right now? The cheapest one you can buy right now, they're saying speculating. Obviously, that's what they're all saying. $30 million, if you want to go on on that card today, a Mickey Mantle 52 tops, right? $30 million. So if others do own shares in Tesla and you got a guy like Elon that can quadruple the valuation of the company. I think the Morgan Stanley's and these other guys in the world may say, you know what? Maybe it's a little bit more than politics. If you can increase our valuation here, Elon, go at it.

We'll let you know since I haven't been here in four months, I got to maximize my time. I'm going to make one more prediction and I'm sure very, very sure about this one. I think Elon Musk is going to segue himself out of showing the Milwaukee box with you as a free throw coach. No, he's going to he's going to work his way out of Tesla within the next year. Somehow, some way, I think part of this is he's going to have more fun doing it. He's going to be more influential. I think he's going to be very, very active with Twitter.

And I just don't think he's having fun with Tesla, and I think he's going to find a way to exit if it's at all possible. If a guy that big and that prominent in a company can find a way out, I think he will be gone from Tesla in a year. I think we need a new show. Tom Zener doubles as Miss Cleo, and we just have all his predictions, and we see what comes right, it comes wrong. You do love making predictions.

Yeah. Whether they're right or wrong or the opinion wrong. That could lead to a prediction. To come to Kevin, so Kevin, you got an interesting dynamic yourself. You in 2008 or 2009, I think you were at the RNC convention or something like that. Well, but then you also golf would build Clinton. So it's like, yeah, yeah.

I don't know. Like I said, I, that during that time, I was friends with David Zucker. I don't know if you know who David Zucker is. He did the airplane and is he from Wisconsin? Yes. I know so many people from Wisconsin that talk about David Zucker. And David is a huge pack fan.

I'm a huge pack fan. And so David and I became friends. And he wanted to do a movie about Michael Moore, which is like, is this the movie I did called American Carol, which I played Michael Moore. And it was a spoof about how Michael Moore wanted to take away fourth of July. And so, I mean, I always wanted to work with David Zucker

because I love airplane and I love naked gun series and all those kind of things. So I was just, yeah, I would say yes, I say, yeah, I'll work with you for sure. But it was pretty much of a, you know, it had a good cast. It had Dennis Hopper, Kelsey Grammer, you know, David Langer and Leslie Nielsen. John Voight. John maybe that's where, maybe that's some of your political inclinations.

John, hang around with John Voight long enough. The next thing you know, yeah, you end up with the R&C convention. That's why exactly. I think he wanted us all to go there. So, you know, I'm not gonna say no to John Voight. Yeah. So he's like, yeah, we're all going to the RNC convention.

I'm like, well, I'm going to be kind of labeled as a Republican and he goes, you're going to the RNC. Oh, okay, okay. So I went and just paled out. I'd never been to a convention before. And so it was trip to sea. It was kind of wild to see that political environment. I'd never been to a convention.

I would encourage anyone to go to a political convention. It's really kind of wild. Have you ever spoken on the floor of Congress or anything like that? Yeah, my brother Christy. Yeah, that's no big. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got to show that. I don't know if we could show it. He was playing New Game Rich. He played New Game Rich. Yeah, he played New Game Rich. It's on C-Span. We can watch it. Yeah, C-Span is fine. Yeah, I know. I think Newt, so tell us, set up the story if you would, Kevin. So he gets invited, he did it on SNL and I think he got invited to do that.

I think for it might have been something to do with his birthday. I don't know, Newt's birthday or something. I don't know. I'm not sure. Maybe it not. By the way, Newt's sitting right there. No, he liked it. Different era. I mean, the house was funny. Sense it not. Bob, the newt sitting right there. Right there. No, he liked it.

Different air, I mean, house was funny. Sense a humor back then, right? Yeah, exactly. We're a little more or less. We're never happened right now. It wouldn't. People would walk out, they're offended. They would.

Yeah. I mean, this couldn't happen right now. No, it couldn't. We're too political. Yeah, we can watch it later. It's an eight minute clip. But we're too political now. Back then you could, you you know go have dinner with

You know and did Chris care about politics? It was not a lot not even the least my dad was a Republican So I think that's you know, but that's all he put thought into it He didn't really think too much about it. I think he was more passionate about his comedy than he was about politics or anything I can see that because anything that would, because Chris was so much about pleasing the audience, that's the feeling at least I get, I may be wrong, that he looked like he was a guy that was gonna give his best and his performance

was gonna be solid, I can't see him getting too political. What do you think SNL these days has gotten too political? I mean, everything they're doing with, they did with Trump, and now they get the guy who does Trump, he also does Biden, but clearly SNL has sprinted left. Wow. They're making fun of Jeanine Piro and Marsha Blackburn on the regular. I think Lauren Michael that show has been on the air for I don't know how long. I think it's almost

50 years. Okay. So just just the fact that it's been on that long is it is literally a wonder of the world. So to survive in the political, I mean, on television for that long, you have to do, in law and no system, instinct of the law and michael. He knows we have to survive. So he's like, what works? Throwing stuff against the wall.

Politics works for us. So the ratings are going up, it's capitalism. And the ratings are going up. And so he's gonna stick with what's going. They've always not got change though. If you got a pitch that's working, and if your curve ball is working, you're gonna keep falling over.

I think your brother played Tipo Niel, I want to say, at one point. Yeah, he played a lot of them. He also played a guy named Hall Hefflin, or something, a senator Hefflin, back in the day at a giant chin. And he was like, he was on the Clarence Thomas, and it was a steric one.

What are your thoughts on Lauren Michaels and Genevieve at a time to spend with him at all? I've talked to Lauren, yeah, a lot of different times. He's the king, I mean, he rules it over there. So, you know, I kind of like intimidate, he's intimidating guy, so I just say hello, sir. Nice to see you. I enjoyed the quote about what he said about your brother though.

He says, because he's got this very distinct, like, not, I don't know, it's just very straightforward voice. He's like, he's like a category of people. That he's worked that are infuriatingly talented. That's how he described your brother. Right. Basically saying that you just have to recognize and dive straight into it. Right. I mean, it just have to recognize and dive straight into it. Right, I mean, it got to the point where they would put it,

if you had a sketch on SNL and it was kind of, reaching the point where, you're like, I don't know what we're gonna do with this, what if this is kind of a dud, he would find a way to make that sketch good. So fall down or something. That's all it takes. Your brother, you're saying?

He had an instinct where he'd be like, I know how to make this funny. So, yeah, so that's where Lauren was like, we had a thousand sketches and Chris would come up with a solution to all of them. He was a genius that way. But just find out what's gonna be funny in it. Do you have some favorite sketches

that come to mind that Chris did? Oh, geez, I think I always like, I put some in the documentary that one, whether he's a talent scout or something like that. That to me, it was just hilarious. No, no, no, he's just big on everything. It's just hilarious. I think that was one of my favorite.

He was like a talent agent. He's really flamboyant agent. Well, the most famous one is the chip in Del's one. Well, yeah, that was one of the most fun of all. We're chip in Del's one. Well, yeah, that was one of the top six ways. Yeah, that was one of the top six. Lunch lady. Which one is that? The lunch lady without a present.

Lunch lady without a present. Lunch lady without a present. Yeah, that was a big, yeah. Yeah, a lot of store. Wasn't it the gap store him in spade? Yeah. They were totally good. They got the club.

They got me on the store. Yeah, yeah. It's very good. He had like five of the top, I think they made a list of them. He had like two or three in the top 20, you know sketches He really did well on that. How did the impact started it off with this? But how did he come up with the mat Foley motivational speaker? That was a that living a van down by the river. That was a bit actually written by Bob Odin Kirk

In fact Bob just wrote a book about it. Wow and he said that back in second city when we're in Chicago That's where we all trained. And that was a staged thing that Bob wrote and he was writing it, I think for himself, but he didn't want to do it. So he gave it to Chris to play the motivational speaker. So they did that first in Chicago at Second City. Yeah. And then they brought it up to the center and they didn't have a live. Yeah. Oh, you follow him? What's going on with Disney? You follow him like the way they're going back. Yeah. I'm going to read this to you guys because there's a new story that came out on the direction of these guys want to take it.

So, Disney shareholders, tell CEO to stop wasting money on political crusades. Disney shareholders speaking out against the company's involvement in Florida politically, politics by actively opposing the Republican-led parental right in education bill champion by Republican governor de Santa's rake eating an Economist and editor a Disney business journal said when companies dive into politics it rarely turns out Well, here's a suggestion for Disney stock Shabbyk Get back to business that is excellence and storytelling and stop wasting shareholders money on political crusades that have nothing to do with Disney's business.

We all have the right to have our voices hurt on issues but not on the shareholders dime, kidding said. Interesting. Yeah, very. Pretty powerful statement. What do you think about what the kidding said? You know, you're used to a strength coming from Disney for what, so long, you know, what, 40 some years. They had two CEOs, right?

Including one of the greatest, I just, Bob Eiger, who just retired. I think, Shae Peck is coming across this very week in this whole situation. When you want to come across as strong, he's only been in there for a little bit over a year. You know, it always befuddles me because why a company would want to be so politically active? I just don't get it. I keep saying to myself, there are other people who have different political beliefs that like to go to Disneyland and like to go to Disney World. And what happens when they do start boycotting

or not downloading the app anymore, right? Because it's all about streaming for Disney and Chepa comes from the park's business. And I think that's where you could see the biggest drop. When you come back and you realize the prices that are involved in going to Disneyland or Disney World for the day. And then to think that, okay, am I really,

if I think differently than how they project their beliefs, are I am I gonna be welcome there? Am I gonna have a good time? So is it worth it to invest a full day in it? I just think the numbers are gonna come back. I think this board member nailed it. I think he's speaking for a lot of people and it's not just Disney. I think there's a lot of companies that are going to be having the same

conversations because once this start once the minor or the probably the quiet majority start speaking a little bit more. They're going to get an attention of these CEOs and the board of directors because how long can you take it? You just cannot continue to take it like this. So, yeah, when he came out, I didn't do enough for you. I just thought that was a weak talk from a CEO, didn't you? I mean, the memo that he sent out to his employees, it seemed like the only thing you care about was his employees feelings.

And maybe I'm old school, but when you work for a company, I think there should be part of you that is appreciative for the job. You do your best, and you don't have to let everybody know all day long how you stand politically. So I judged him by what he released in that statement, and I think he's gonna have a challenge. I really do.

I also think Disney's in a very tough position because if there's one company that is kind of in the middle of all the drama that's happening in the United States right now, it's Disney. Think about it. I mean, how many of their employees are LGBTQ? They just had a major walk out, right? You're there supposed to be entertaining families.

Yeah, VSPN, right. All that. And that's, you know, that's in addition to you have amusement parks. So you're dealing with masks, no mask pat. Did a whole segment about the difference between Disney land and LA versus Disney world here in Florida and Orlando. You're dealing with kids, so you're dealing with, especially with LGBT, the Don't Say Gay Bill, all of that,

critical race theory being taught in school. Just, it's sort of like a bellweather of what's going on in society. Now you have the daily wire, what is that Ben Shapiro's organization that's coming out and they basically said they're gonna pump in, I don't know, how much millions of dollars to creating more conservative type content. So, Disney's in a

very tough place. Like, whatever direction they're gonna go, they're gonna piss somebody off. And if there's a company that doesn't want to piss people off, it's a company that stands for family values and entertainment. And it's just a slippery slope. And Tom Zander's point, just get back to business. I, if you ever read any biography on Walt Disney, which I've read a few of them, what a man, what a great guy, you know, I mean, I mean, he had his faults obviously,

but when he started that company, it was pretty simple. Like he, you know, it was a simple thing, you know, he wanted to, he wanted to entertain families and he was a magical place on earth. Yeah, and it was pretty simple. I mean, now they're been pretty complicated. Yeah. It's a giant. Now, obviously, this is a trajectory of maybe

of what companies and corporations do. Obviously, you always want to growth. You always want more money, you know, and that kind of maybe that's the reason why these companies Twitter and everything else, you see in like capitalism, some drop-offs going to happen and then there'll be another version of it or something like that. But there's always this trajectory of like, and I see Disney going that way too.

It's like, this is what would Walt say. I always say, what would he say? You know, he was a savvy dude though. There's a story that came out. I saw a couple of weeks ago or maybe over the weekend, but watch this one. What's going on in Orlando? So when they built Disney World, Walt Disney lobbied the government in Florida to basically circumvent the county, Orange County, and be able to build as much as they want.

When they want to build a glass tower that's 25 stories tall, they don't need county approval. Right. So I think they pay for their own management of the streets waste manage all this thing So it's almost like their own ecosystem But Republicans in Florida are starting to look at that and say you have one hell of a tax break here Yeah, you have an incredible advantage that we're gonna examine right now that has flown under the radar screen for about 50 years Yeah, and there are gonna be ways politically for you a little payback here It's ironic that the Republicans in Florida want to regulate Disney. I don't know.

Well, let me say this part to you. So this is what makes me think. And I'm going to push back with you guys and see what angle you take with this. I'm actually curious to know how you've processed this. We talked about Nike when Nike decided to side with Kaepernick after the whole thing with kneeling. And I was like, oh my God, Nike stock is going to drop.

Nike stocks going to drop. They're going to about, it's horrible. I will never buy another Nike boom. They made $4 billion like the next two to four weeks, whatever it was. They embraced camera. And they're saying, oh, no, this is what we're doing. You know, so, so no, we don't care if you're going to be offended or not. We think we're doing the right thing.

Disney's doing this year. I was like, oh my gosh, I will never watch another cartoon again with Disney and all this other stuff. Okay, we're about to find out if this boycottting stuff is real or if this boycottting stuff is fake. The one part that I think is different, the one part. Because I hear this argument from both sides that I think Disney's doing the right thing from a the left is

The the one thing that I will say is how different this is than others is a following is we saw what happened in Georgia was a Georgia Virginia. We saw what happened in the Where the main topic that parents united on both sides of the Al politically where one're one size like, listen, I'm pro-choice. Okay, well I'm pro-life. Okay, I'm about, you know, entitlement programs. I'm not, I'm about minimizing it. Okay, I'm about, we're spending too much money in military. Well, we need more military to be safe.

Okay, but don't mess with my kids. Yeah, me too, don't mess with my kids. Oh, so we have that in common, yeah. Well, hard, let's unite. And I'm boom, election showed and what happened. So the difference, I think, how Disney's gonna be going up against Nike is this is kids. And if they think for a second,

that's gonna be okay with parents, right? I think they have a- Yeah, I'll point out what other thing too. You know, I think Nike was defending it one of their stars, which is different than defending an employee that works at a desk or at a cubicle, which is what Disney's doing. The other thing is Disney's political beliefs come through in their product. Right? So it's not like Nike was only making left shoes.

Right? I mean, you still love Nike, right? But with Disney, it's coming through in their movies and in their product. And it's coming through on ESPN. The other thing is there's a hell of a lot more competition for Disney than there is for Nike. And Disney's trying to become the number one streamer in the world. And they have a fight with Netflix and maybe with Amazon. And so I think there's less margin for error for Disney. I think it can hurt them more down the road because they have more competition.

And it's constantly be throwing in people's face is how they feel politically. Right, when you sit there and you talk to your everyday person, they're gonna show you pictures of the kids. What do people care about? What do they really care about? I mean, the average person,

you know, here's my kid doing this, here's my kid doing what they care about their kids. You wanna see how the average joke it fired up and want to kill something mess with their kid. So that's where I think you're right, where it's going to be like, this is a little different. A little different when you're talking about someone's, because you want to see a general populist get angry.

But what's the thing that we covered last podcast or last week with Jank, I believe that they're gonna stop referring to kids as boys and girls and now, these rumors and wishes or something like that. Yeah, so when, you know, what percentage of society doesn't wanna be identified as, hey, good morning, boys and girls, ladies and gentlemen, nobody has an issue with that.

But now you're canceling the word boys and girls. That's where you get people with common sense being like, hold on, I'm out. I was with you guys. Yeah. But yeah, what's going on here? I'm out. I'm out.

You know, Kevin said earlier that the nation is lacking religion. And it's not. You're just seeing instead of God, they're filling it with politics. And this is becoming a form of religion. Hollywood, the politics, the intersectional stuff, the vaccines, the climate change, it's all becoming a form of religion.

If you don't follow the orthodoxy, whether or not it makes sense, whether or not it's truthful, whether or not it's back. By science, if you don't follow the orthodoxy, you are a heathen of sorts, and you get cut out and cast out. You're gonna worship something. You know, because the human beings we worship things, you know, and so you're gonna worship something

It's not if it's not God. It's gonna be politics. It's gonna be Woke politics. It's gonna be moving in the stars You're on reason your own reason. It's gonna be you're gonna worship something and so we're finding that it's shifting Now we're getting away from God. We're going to other things, all kinds of different things. And they're not good. How about that Southwest flight? So funny out of it. You want to tell that story? Go ahead Adam. This is Adam's favorite story. Yeah, where can I pull this thing up? Literally. We got to talk about this. Yeah, well, we're going to do it right now. Oh my god. You better bring it out right now. So apparently, uh, this Southwest flight passenger was very active during this flight. Did you have this story in your backpack? I didn't. I didn't.

But I'll pull it out. Uh, so apparently a Southwest passenger rested for masturbating not once, not twice, not thrice, but four times on a, on a flight. Where was the flight going to? I was entering it was from Seattle the Phoenix Seattle the Phoenix First of all who the hell is tracking the four times. Yeah, I want to know that guy that dead was still behind him and said Like a scoreboard right next to the exit down here. Let's see if we can read the story out here so Punching on it. So I'm gonna Is this a joke or is this real?

This is a real story unfortunately from Seattle to Phoenix is facing Seattle Phoenix. How long is that flight two hours maybe? It's probably three hours. Seattle to Phoenix. Facing federal charges are pulling down his pants and masturbating at least four times in front of a female passenger. Oh, okay. I got shortly after takeoff. Antonio Sherod McGarrity. That's his name.

He's an Irishman. Right. Oh, McGarrity. McGarrity. Cut back in. McGarrity. I got a quote. Okay.

Was arrested by officers at the Phoenix Police Department when Southwest flight 3814 landed at Sky Harbor International. However, McGarrity told cops that he didn't do anything wrong. And in fact, he was just thought it was gone. A kinky incident. Started early on the three hour flight. One of my charity commenced his in delicate behavior. There's a delicate in the story.

It says there's a point where he was doing it for one full hour. One hour. Do you realize? Do you realize if your mask comes down below your nose for one second, they're all over, you wanna play? How did they not notice this and stop this guy? I'm impressed with four times. What are you doing?

I am. It's just, but. Is this like a, you like the story because it's like a source of inspiration or what's the, do you wanna try this? You know, go for for it but I think it's a three hour flight we're seeing it's really all these things happen on airplanes these days well first thing I'd like to see happen with airlines is to start flying and landing

and taking off on time because a lot of yeah it's been a lot of delays lately all the people that are trying to fly and they get late it's that is such a good way if you pull your mask down for 30 seconds the entire plane swarms you and this guy is Beatin it for an hour right. Yeah, that's the crazy thing You're like you put your take a sip of your ginger ale you put it back down and the stairs like put your mask back over your nose Okay, I got to read this last part. This isn't say I mean this guy should be arrested So American McGarrity your Irish nose. Okay, I gotta read this last part. This is insane. I mean, this guy should be arrested. So, American McGarrity, your Irish buddy. Yeah, good guy.

Masser, good guy. Good guy. Masser-bated with his exposed penis in view of the female passenger on four separate occasions, and pedestrians, actually, using both his left and right hands, you know, explaining. Talent. So, talented.

She suspected that McGarrity ejaculated because he licks a white substance from the speakers What is happening here right now? Tyler why did you want to dress the story? I did you want this is all you wanted to bring this story up. I don't know. I think Chris would have wanted Golly can we take phone calls? Yeah, get us off the story If anybody calls in in regards to the story drop them immediately Somebody drags about the charity. Yeah, so if you got some callers that have any questions or thoughts for Kevin go ahead and let's take some calls

Yes, we have Paul Paul, how you doing Paul? Good morning. How you doing? How you guys doing? Yeah, so Patrick first things first. I just want to say thank you because you gave me high praise last week and highlighting my comment. You said, I made a freaking great point. And I had to I had to show my wife. I made good points, Patrick said I made a freaking great point today. My question is for Kevin. I met your brother back in 95, 96 in a restaurant in the city with my pounds. And when you walked in, the whole place got up in class. And you sat down, I was a kid. And at that time I met Lawrence Taylor Dave I did a bunch of celebrities but I was nervous going to talk to your brother and I didn't want to do it at the last minute like that gave me the elbow he says go go say

hall and I went up to him a 16 17 year old kid and he he was the one celebrity that looked to me in the eyes and actually engaged with me and was an awesome guy, but I have a question about him. So, Shale Sunnin talks about our economy Gregor and says the reason why he has problems outside of the ring is because he's too tied to his persona in the UFC. And I'm just curious, if that's what Chris had an issue with, was he too tied to the persona of comedy and that he didn't know when to let it go did you have any hobbies or interest outside of it

or was you always just addicted to you know the last and making people or making people ask right there's there that's probably something that's true with uh... with the with what happened i think you know uh... celebrity is definitely not a, it's not a natural way to live. I don't think there's a celebrity on that ever is unaffected by the being famous.

The nature of being famous is contradictory to the way I think human beings should live. And it does have a psychological effect on you. I don't think that's pretty obvious. So yeah, unless you have a good grip on yourself, celebrity can really mess with you. Being famous can really mess with you. And I, being famous can really mess with you. And I think that it happened fast for him

and he was caught off guard by the whole. Yeah, it feels like he felt his role was to always be the life of the party and make sure everybody was entertained no matter what it took. And that's a lot of pressure. If you're putting that on yourself, I mean, you feel that 24-7.

We took way to go through life. It was too much, it was a weird world and I think celebrityism, If you're putting that on yourself, I mean, you feel that 24-7. We had a tough way to go through life. It was too much, it was a weird world, and I think celebrity is, you know, Hollywood is a strange thing to do to people. It's just, you know, the whole concept of taking a person and making them famous and that kind of thing. It's strange. And it's not healthy.

It's definitely not. And if you don't have a good grip on yourself, it's... Thank you, Paul. Yeah. Quick question for you regarding celebrity them Arguably Chris would have been just as big as Adam Sandler today. I mean talk about like I think he's the number one guy ever to come out of SNL in terms of net worth Worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Where do you think Chris would be today if he was still alive like well? He would have been shrek. I mean he had he'd done Shrek. Did you guys know that? Pat, did you know that?

He was the voice of Shrek. I don't know. He had recorded the whole first movie. And then when he passed away, they thought, okay, we're going to do Shrek 2, 3, 4, right? Yeah. So then they had to bring in Mike Myers, but he was Shrek. He was Shrek. He was a different character.

He would have been a holy different character. So what Shrek, what else do you think he would have been? I don't know. He was in the mix to do a really kind of a serious thing about Fanny Arbuckle when he died. And so that would have been a good project for him. And there would have been, there was a few other different things

that would have been really good for him. And I think he would have probably done some serious stuff because he was a good actor. So even some of the scenes in Tommy Boy, when he's crying on the little boat with a girl. He was a good actor. Yeah, with a girl. Good actor. Yeah, for sure. So he would have done some serious stuff.

I'm sure. You know how like Jim Carey went from even Adam Sandler has gone from like, hey, yeah, but you would be mad as any of the mask and then they've taken on more serious. Sure. They would have gone from the funny, a burly guy to a little more. Yeah. Yeah. He would have done a great job.

I believe it. He would have done a great job. He would have do another call. Yeah, we have a Dante. Dante, how you doing? Hey, how's it going, guys? Kevin, big fan of your work on F is for family. But I had a question for Adam. A little bit earlier ago, you guys were talking about the Will Smith, Chris Rock thing. Adam, are you really justifying that somebody can slap another person and commit assault over hurt feelings and words? Are you really okay with that? I'm not okay with someone who is that

by the way? I'm not I'm not okay with someone slapping someone but he didn't shoot someone he didn't beat the shit out of somebody. My whole point is does he deserve to be canceled because he's slacked a grown man slapped another man I don't think you should be canceled should he be reprimanded and is the fallout justified sure but he didn't beat the shit out of somebody he slapped a grown man like Adam even quote in this movie uh... all morning that's assault brother that's assault that's true Dante we do have a follow-up to that well yeah i mean if I disagree with something that Adam says on the podcast and I walked into the studio and slapped him in the face Would he be okay with taking a slap? There's voice sounds very familiar. I think Adam's feelings will get hurt and we have said by that

That's assault brother. Is it or no? Is this a joke or is it Dante's real Dante is are you? Are you one of Adam's friends or you've never met Adam before. I've never met Adam. Okay. Where are you from Dante? He makes a good point. Dante actually makes his days. He's taking where the same thing. He's got to get arrested. What do we say? Like what should have happened to Will Smith? So I guess the question would be Dante. Let me see if you're saying this. you saying like it so maybe you give us uh... your your idea what should be the repercussions for somebody like will to walk up to chris rock on national television at this point a few billion people have seen it world what should be the repercussions

for that assault charges that's what should happen you should have been taken away in handcuffs for putting his hands on another person over hurt feelings and words well what's worse a grown man slapping another grown man what happened with uh... will Smith and chris rock or the other example i gave you of jim kerry pull on making out with an uninvited uh... woman who did that what's worse what does it matter which is worth worse both are wrong and shouldn't have

happened and i was he didn't get he didn't get reprimanded at the time he was a lot of that she should have been able to you know what when i see don't have just got a slap in a face by Dante. Well Dante, you seem like you're a little bit agitated and frustrated, you know, maybe there's a couple stories we talked about today

that could be a source of inspiration for you, but have a wonderful day. Yeah, have a good one Dante. Do we have another one we got eight more minutes? Do we have another caller? Johnny. That's all brother, yes, Aaron's on the line. Okay, let's hear Aaron.

Hello guys, how's it going? How are you going, Aaron? I wanted to talk briefly about like Frederick Nietzsche, right? Because he talked about this 200 years ago. How do we lose you? Yeah, Aaron. Did you? Yeah, go ahead. We lose you are a win. Did you do it? Yeah, go ahead. Hello, Aaron, go ahead. You can hear your question. Yeah.

Yeah, I think he's listening on the playback. We should just probably get rid of him. Okay, let's go to another one. Can you guys do it? Yes. We got you. That's all we have. I like where he was going though, Nietzsche says, God is dead.

We have killed him and there will be never, there will never be enough water to wash away the blood. Yeah. Is that the angle he was going with? Yeah. That's, he wanted to quote Nietzsche and that kind of what Kevin touched on earlier with the lack of religion in the country and country and one could say at a broader aspect throughout the world, the death of Christianity and the impact it's having on our culture.

Tyler, why don't you give us a prayer real quick? That's all right. You can join hands and give us a quick prayer. I'd like you to see how you can do this. You know what religion is the number one, when they ask people to check off what religion they identify as you know the number of religion in America is We have agnostic you're back on so Aaron if you're back on you you ask us the question. We can hear you go ahead Hello Aaron go ahead

Hey, can you guys hear me? Yes. Okay, I don't know what was happening, but... Okay. Can you guys... We got you. Go ahead. Are you ahead? Ask the question.

We can ask a question, Aaron. Are you capable of that? You guys familiar with like Friedrich Nietzsche, Yes. Because he talked about the loss of meaning and the death of God like 200 years ago. Yep, yes. You know, and how you have to be in a constant state

of becoming, otherwise you end up in a state of nihilism, which I think is like really evident in today's society more than anything else. Like I'm 31 years old and I've had set like more of my friends, I've been to their funerals than I have their weddings, you know? And that is like a huge crisis in the world today. So like I do appreciate what you guys are doing and what you guys are talking

about, you know. Yeah. Isn't that. Yeah. And these sides have gone up. Are these funerals because of overdoses? Why? I mean, that's a, let's just gloss over that. You're saying you're 31. You've been to more funerals for your friends than weddings. What's the cause of these funerals, bro? Is he still there? So John do me a favor John when we take callers ask what their question is not what their comment is if they can make a comment But we got a question for Kevin Is what I was about to let's wrap up with this so your favorite comedians if you were to say your favorite Comments who would you say are your favorite comedians? I grew up with Mel Brooks.

I grew up with, you know, watching those things. I grew up with that kind of comedy. And also beginning of SNL, like Blue Sheet and Bill Murray and those guys, Dan Acroid and those guys. I mean, stand up wise. I loved Norm McDonald. He was a friend of mine. I went on the road with Norm, and I loved him and Sandler, and I love Sebastian right now.

I'm gonna scull it, I think I'm gonna scull it. I think I'm gonna scull it. I think it's a very sterical big time. He is a sterical, I love him, so I laugh at him a lot. So those are the guys that have influenced me. If I could get to that level, it'd be great. Fantastic. Can I say hi to Kevin from one of his friends? Yeah. Give myself a little plug in the meantime. I feel like I'm on the tonight show set. I plug what I'm doing on top of VT post. I have a new podcast starting on one degree of

scandalous. I've been working on this thing for about two or three years. And my partner is another Wisconsin famous funny man, Kato Kaelin. Oh, yeah. So Kato told me to say hi to you. So we're going to start this podcast on podcast one where we're going to go back to every single scandal that there's been.

And we're just going to have fun with it. We're going to talk to the people that were in the middle of it. We're not looking to blow anything open or anything, but just have a good conversation and unveil some facts and take people back. It's going to be on podcast one. It's starting in May or not.

No, it's not. So just follow me on Instagram at Tom's center. So all the updates will be when it's coming up when it is coming up. Go let us know. We'll have you on and then we'll put a link and we'll drive to that'll be awesome. Fantastic. Kevin, where can people find you? What are you working on now, dude?

Well, I do a lot of stand up. So this weekend, I'm in Boca Raton, and I'm at the Black Box over there. And I have a website, Kevin Farley Official, and I also do a podcast called OffSides, which is about football and sports. And that kind of thing with the Savant Kato's like a 12-year years old Leo Berman

and another ex football player Ed Gants and we talk a lot about what's going on in pro football. Literally 12 year old kid. Yeah, you know, he's 16. Sorry, 16, but he's got his got his statistical mind. He knows exactly every step. And of all things you can be talking about, you want to talk sports? Is that what you're saying? I love sports. Yeah, I love football. College and pro football. Yeah, so we talk a lot about I love sports. Yeah, I love football, college and pro football. Yeah, so we talk a lot about that. And so that's our other podcast. And I have another one podcast called Kevin Farley on the road, which I talk about my daily

life on the road, that kind of thing. Is the majority of your time doing stand up now? Yeah, a lot of it. Yeah, I have two movies coming out, one up, and also the baby pack. Those are coming out later on in the year. So I have two movies coming out, and then I do voice-os on F is for family, but they've wrapped it up.

So, now it's just. Well, I'm wrapping up, but the one last question for you, you made an appearance on curb. You've made an appearance on a lot of different things, but one of the funnier things I've seen is my favorite show currently is Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Oh, you did that too. Yeah, you did. I was always sunny dealing with all those guys. Those guys are genius.

You know, I mean, and then the set is really fun to go to be a part of because Danny DeVito's in the city. He's insane. Charlie. Yeah, I saw all of them are hilarious and they let you do, you know, they're very cool on set. So I played this guy that was really a down and dud. They're in a ski bomb and they're trying to have fun. And I'm like, this real downer and like fighting for custody about a child. He's a sad, a very turkey. And how much time did you spend on set

with those guys? At $10.59 folks. We have the link below to go find Kevin Farley's podcast, Twitter. He put it on there. One of the best comments of the day so far is Zach Harris Dante 2024 so Dante out there when you're running for office They they someone's got your back here for run for 24 tomorrow. Who do we have on tomorrow?

Big boy Francis. Oh wow Francis Who's gonna be here tomorrow? You see heavyweight champion of the world will be here tomorrow. You'll see heavyweight champion of the world. He's gonna be here tomorrow. He's gonna slap that up. Oh, that would be so. That's a salt brother. So anyways, well she guys, Tomalt were Francis, Kevin, Prechich, we're coming out.

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