PBD Podcast - Comedians Tony Hinchcliffe and Vincent Oshana | PBD Podcast | EP 148 |

Starting point is 00:00:00 your mind. Here's the debate. Here upset. They're saying we believe. And we are live. Okay, fantastic folks. We are here episode number 148. I've been looking for with the podcast for a while. We've been out this entire week, I've been in Orlando, but we got a special one for you today with obviously Adam Saas think, but we got Vinny, Vincent Oshana, Assyrian, comedian, former Marine. We got him all over. Air Force, my apology.

Starting point is 00:00:37 It's okay, but I'm not like the more nicer sleep, nicer rooms, you guys don't exercise. You chose to exercise, but it was a mandatory. Yeah, exactly. And then we also have Tony Hinchcliffe, you know, with us, Tony, the legendary Hinchcliffe, I wasn't, what was it, Jacksonville, and I was up there with yourself,

Starting point is 00:00:57 Rogan, Hans, we had a great time by the way, was what a night it was, and I'm listening to you perform. Can I tell him one of your jokes or no? Sure. I'm gonna tell him one of your jokes or no? Sure. I'm gonna tell them one of your jokes. So he says, you know, the other day I got a friend of mine that called and he was very concerned. He was concerned about his kid.

Starting point is 00:01:13 I said, what's going on? He says, I just found that we're having a baby. Now, that's a good news. Congratulations. He says, yeah, but some bad news because we're having a girl. He says, why are you up to this? Because I wanted a boy. He says, don't worry.

Starting point is 00:01:25 Now with this, she may change her mind. Exactly. Nowadays, you still got a chance. You're still, gender reveals now. I'm shocked people are still having gender revealed. It's like, who are you to say what it is yet? About the parents. As a parent, how dare you say that it's a boy or girl?

Starting point is 00:01:42 You have to give it a chance. Well, the cool thing about that joke, by the way, I'll jump in is that that's a true beat girl, you have to give it a chance. Well, listen. The cool thing about that joke, by the way, I'll jump in, is that that's a true, like, beat for beat. That was a real thing. We were at dinner and it just happened just like that. And I go, nowadays, you still got a chance. You have to.

Starting point is 00:01:55 Yeah. So do you, in that moment, say, this is material? Yep. That's actually like my writing process. Is I just wait until I say something that makes everybody like slam the table at the right time and then that's it. Well, there was there was a couple moments because I noticed everybody was dropping jokes during dinner.

Starting point is 00:02:12 Yeah. And then Joe was very quick to say, yeah, that's not funny. Yeah. That's what we do. Yeah. The relationship was quite. Is everyone looking at Joe like, all right, was that good? Was that okay?

Starting point is 00:02:22 Is Joe the the seeking approval like mentor big brother? Not to the dinner table. Not to the people that he's friends with, all right, was that good? Is Joe the seeking approval, like mentor big brother? Not to the dinner table. Not to the people that he's friends with, you know, but to people who it's their first time hanging out with them, that's always interesting. Yeah, you guys go back 20, you guys go back a long time. Yeah, a really long time. We've been doing the road together for over a decade.

Starting point is 00:02:40 So like, that's a lot. Airplane rides and dinners and green rooms and shows. Who's part of that crew that's been on the road together with you, Rogan? Who else? Well, I mean, Rogan's crew is famously a bunch of bad asses. It's really, really comedians. A lot of the comedians at Joe's level don't take real, real hard hitters with them. They're a little bit afraid that they might get buried, you know what I mean? But he famously, I mean, Joey Diaz,

Starting point is 00:03:08 Ari Shaffir, Duncan Shrossel, Bert Kreischer, Tom Segura, all these guys. All heads letter now. Yeah, super, super top of the food chain have all been part of that. He's the evil, part of that crew or no? I think, yeah, I mean, yeah, we're all comedy store brothers, but he, I think he's only

Starting point is 00:03:27 open for Rogan a couple times on the right. So that's the Rogan crew. Yeah, but they have headliners wrote like that. Hard hitters opening for you says a lot about who you are as a comic is like he said, you want funny people, you don't want to show the suck, but to have hitter, hitter, because you know, the show climbs. If it just, if Joe doesn't step up, then it's just, it's horrible. So obviously, right.

Starting point is 00:03:46 And if it's climbing by the time that it's to me, then, you know, it's on. Yeah. How'd you get into it? How'd you get into it? And obviously, don't get, I ask you, but for people that don't know, how'd you get into it? I mean, like most kids, I had a perfect,

Starting point is 00:03:58 perfect regimen of a childhood to set me up for being a comedian, really, really dangerous neighborhood, different diverse neighborhood, very dangerous at the time. Single mom, you know, crazy story with a dad, you know, everything, just teachers were mean, you know, I was looking for any type of like love or respect from people and getting laughs from kids in class back then was everything.

Starting point is 00:04:26 It brought me like a certain amount of joy and I would get in trouble and you know, they would tell my mom Tony messed up again. I'd be grounded and then I would you know, once I get once I got, I just couldn't stop. I couldn't stop making people laugh. And the teachers told my mom at a young age, like he's never going to really fit in with society. Like he's not going to be able to work a normal job and it's stressor out. You know, I was her last kid of fight.

Starting point is 00:04:49 The fifth kid, everybody else was already in college. I had much older siblings. Like it's just a perfect little recipe for him. The four above you boy. What's the? My brother's 12 years older than me. A sister 14, a brother 16 years older than me, and a sister 20 years older. So 22, yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:07 That's cool. There's that big of an age, so you're the baby, baby, baby. Yeah, it's a crazy, crazy story. And you guys are both comedians. Did you guys both know that you were gonna be comedians like when you were kid? Like sounds like you had a perfect childhood

Starting point is 00:05:19 of like, this kid ain't gonna make it in the real world. And a comedy's kinda gonna be for him. Same story for both the people. I got in, I was, I can't tell you how many times I got in trouble where my parents have come, you know, having middle-eastern parents, it was like sitting and listening to everything that I did and then my mom's like, okay, my father's like,

Starting point is 00:05:37 wait, once we walk into the house, what's what's gonna happen to you? So I would just watch, like my father watched George Carlin and all those, I would just memorize that and he would make me act it out in front of like, my father would drink. And he'd be like, he'd bring me the middle of a room and be like, just go.

Starting point is 00:05:50 And I would just do Carlin's whole set, sort of got it. And they'd just laughing, dine laughing, and drinking. I just knew it. And then in the military, I was just, you know, getting in trouble the first day, the first day, and you know, that's the, where they shake you down. I got in trouble on that day, just trying to be a funny person.

Starting point is 00:06:05 It was over. Tony, let me ask you, you know how in mixed martial arts, there's different form of art, right? You got, you know, with Jiu Jitsu, Te Kwando, you know, all these different ways you can go. And they said, this guy's background is wrestling again.

Starting point is 00:06:19 Kobe knows how to wrestle, but stand up games gonna be tough going up against XYZ. Is there different kind of art and comedy, like insult comedy, this comedy, what different kind of comedy is there? 100%, a lot of, you know, I mean, insult comedy is just one aspect of it, but like what really I think what it is

Starting point is 00:06:36 for using MMA as an analogy is it's like, you know, some guys can do everything. And some fights, they'll do wrestling and surprise you sort of. And some fights they'll do wrestling and surprise you sort of. And some people, even though it's like, you know, Nate Diaz is like, what a double black belt, like highest level Jiu Jitsu guy.

Starting point is 00:06:54 You don't want to be stuck on top of them, right? But meanwhile, you look at him and he's slapping around Conor McGregor, box out boxing Conor McGregor, who boxed with Floyd Mayweather, you know what I mean? It's like, anyway, my point is, a lot of comedians, I think stick to an act, like a very set act, and some of them are more loose,

Starting point is 00:07:18 anything can happen, you're making major adjustments to what show is in front of you right then at that moment. And the ones that can make those adjustments, which is like a real, you know, comedy store type of trait. The ones that are really good at that can decide to improvise for the entire hour long set. That's what they're feeling that night. And that's fun, whereas a lot of comedians would panic in that situation because they

Starting point is 00:07:42 didn't work on that. And they didn't take those chances late at night and get really really really good at that and trusting your instincts and what not. Would you say, oh go ahead, but is it similar to, is it similar to like creating a crew and then you know how we're having dinner and who was with us? We're having dinner first dinner we had we had a couple guys with us that were fighters with the best highlight ever ever yeah but Bradley is it uh... with the fence kick guy you not the fence kick guy no no they're both studs by the way one of them just he he just got into you so you know the first five

Starting point is 00:08:17 with the other guy you would know exactly Bradley i want to say anyways he has this one kicked remember the guy remember the guy that kicks, he holds his leg, and then he flips around, knocks him out. Fantastic guy. Anyways, we're having this conversation. He says, well, his training campus from Michigan, they train in Michigan, right? And then such and such training campus here,

Starting point is 00:08:38 this person's training campus here, does comedy also have a crew that goes together and you kind of like one guy's at the front, lifting the other three, four, five up? Is that kind of how it works? Totally, I mean, it's working perfectly than it's that on many levels. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:08:57 Like the guy that you met that weekend, Hans Kim, that was his first ever arena that he's ever done. And he's a regular on my podcast as of only a few months ago, like six months ago. He writes and performs a brand new minute every single week, but he kept doing so good and stood out to Joe. And then to Joe let him open a couple shows and he, you know, completely destroyed.

Starting point is 00:09:21 So Joe Adam opened more shows. And now all of a sudden he goes from sleeping in his car just a few months ago, even though he's been doing it eight years, he was that committed that he just bought a van and put a mattress inside and like organized his entire life into this van. And now I mean, he's, you know, right there, he's a, he's a big dance doing it. And I mean, he killed at that show, which means he's going to be on the next one. it and I mean he killed at that show which means he's gonna be on the next one And sure enough he was just on Wednesday We did a show and we did a show on Tuesday in Austin to prepare for it and

Starting point is 00:09:52 Hans opened that show but he wasn't even scheduled for Wednesday and He did so good on Tuesday that it's like when he come join us tomorrow night and Joe put them on the Manifest made sure his manager got him a hotel You know what I mean? And so instead of literally the next morning, he's on a jet to do another arena because of how good he does. And that's really, that's like the Rogan way.

Starting point is 00:10:14 You know what I mean is just trying to, he keeps people around him that are doing good. You get rewarded for that, not for kissing ass or smoothing because as you probably saw, Hans misses his face when he's eating and there's like potatoes everywhere. He's a disaster offstage, but he gets on and you know, that's what he does. Now, Pat, are you asking these questions

Starting point is 00:10:35 because I don't know if you guys know this. Pat, is that ready? Pat's thinking about, there's a reason he's kind of bringing more comedians back on this. He's got some level of interest in this. Pat, do you have a type of comedy that you identify with the most? I don't know.

Starting point is 00:10:49 I'm in amateur. I have no idea. But I, I, my whole style, the whole value, entertainment is teaching through entertaining. That's been the style of, I've noticed that teaching through entertaining work. So meaning you have to come here to entertain, make them laugh, to retain, to get people

Starting point is 00:11:07 to pay attention to you, to sell and then sales. You can just go out there and sell based on, hey, here's what I have, here's a structure, or you can sell through winning them over and building rapport, that building rapport and building relationship, has an element of comic to it. You know, humor to it. That's why a lot of comedians are either,

Starting point is 00:11:24 but you know, they do either, you know, storytelling or a lot of comedians have also done sales. They've been in sales and it's natural. You get me to like you. I'm like, did I like this guy? You know what I'll buy from this guy? So there is an element of selling in comedy. You're pitching all the time.

Starting point is 00:11:39 You're like pitching your jokes. It's like, I'm selling my life, my jokes to you, laugh. That's the payment as you laugh you last so let me see this guys Can you tell me if the net if it's working or not? We just had a glitch with I'm trying to see if if you can comment if you can see us And it's going good now message me because we got Comcast folks here and I'm getting text message That's what I'm looking on my phone if you can tell me you can steadily hear us now and it's fine We'll get right

Starting point is 00:12:05 into it. Is it much better now with the service? John Mario, can you guys shoot me a text? People are saying it's better. People are saying it's better. Yeah, they're saying it's better. Okay, fantastic. So let's get right into it. By the way, someone's asking me a question, what is the shirt I'm wearing? It's a free will. We have to talk about it because the whole thing got started. We'll get into it maybe later on. We got to talk about Disney. We got stuff to talk about with Netflix. We got to talk about it because the whole thing got started. We'll get into it maybe later on. We got to talk about Disney. We got stuff to talk about with Netflix. We got to talk about Twitter. We got stuff that's going on in Florida right now with taxes

Starting point is 00:12:32 and Obama Spotify, Spotify dropped them. Bloomberg says Obama's left. Did Spotify drop Obama's? Did Obama drop Spotify? Nobody knows. And then there's CNN plus which crushed it. They did so well. They're launched. It's there's CNN Plus, which crushed it. They did so well.

Starting point is 00:12:46 They're launched. It's one of the greatest launches of all time. Really? They made so much money that after two weeks, I said, this is too much money. Shut it down. Shut it down. I mean, you're on the break of the day back in two weeks.

Starting point is 00:12:56 Seriously. I just subscribed today. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah. We also got to talk about what's going on. I mean, people are getting beat up. Tyson on airplanes. Johnny Depp, Tyson. We're for them in for Tyson. I mean, people are getting beat up. Tyson on airplanes, Johnny Depp, and Amber.

Starting point is 00:13:05 Good for Tyson. I'm assuming everybody here saw Tyson. Oh yeah, with the video. Did you see the video guy recording the guy? He's like bothering him and the other guy's laughing. And it's like, well, there's only so many times you could poke a bear to the bear's and be like, all right, I'm gonna be just curious.

Starting point is 00:13:18 What was your first reaction when you watched? When he started hitting him, I was just like, I don't know how we got, because you know, Mike has a little angle, so he was rocking that dude's face. But what do you, what did you think about? Like what did you think about the guy? Not Tyson.

Starting point is 00:13:30 What did you think about the guy trolling him? Like how did you process him? I didn't get to hear what he was saying. Like that's everything, right? Do we know what he was saying? I told what he did. I think you put up the video because I think we can see the videos. Not like you say.

Starting point is 00:13:44 I mean, yeah, and so he was saying something about, because the guy recording was like, he's bothering Mike about that. No, I'm not sure. There's a better video. There's a video that shows. Yeah, inside video. There's a big.

Starting point is 00:13:54 Brooms you said? Yeah, because the guys like, the guys like laughing. He's like, hey, he's bothering Mike Tyson about shrooms and it's funny and it's laughing. And then I took Michael Wilde, but he, yeah, that was talking for a minute. And he just, did you hear what he said, Pat? Yeah, the guys like you see Mike because they're

Starting point is 00:14:08 like this is this is not fair to show that video. They're not showing this clown trying to clown. Yeah, that's what they're not showing. All they're showing is Tyson beaten up the guy. Tyson's in his seat. He's not doing anything. This guy's over him. Is this the one? Yeah, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, What are you think dude? How many seconds can you do that to my Should I give us some shrooms and then roll like he's trying to be 10 roll it out. He got money out Never gave you his money Pez it's And all of a sudden I guess what? Show the next clip

Starting point is 00:15:06 How much money is he gonna make how much money is he gonna make? Turn around look at that. Oh How much money is gonna make Pat? Think about how much money this this I mean do that. I mean, I don't know Yeah, that guy you know the thing that stands out to me is I'm leaning over his Tyson seat you know, the thing that stands out to me is him leaning over his Tyson seat, you know, physically so Yeah, I mean he got I think he got what he deserved because of the Infiltration of his physical space. I think people punching each other for saying something's bad

Starting point is 00:15:42 But that guy was physically annoying. Oh, that makes me happy. Finally, it's like people are just... But listen, there's a famous quote on internet. The quote is, everybody acts tough until somebody punches you in the face. It's time to fight. Exactly, that's Mike's quote. So you know what, I like what Dana White posted.

Starting point is 00:16:01 That's what Dana White posted about, which is sick. Dana White says this, hey idiots, look at this. He says, hey dummies, for your future reference. Just move, see. Just move, that's so bad. Let me tell you something, I love this. I'll tell you why.

Starting point is 00:16:14 Number one, you know who feels bad for this guy? They got beat up. Absolutely fucking nobody. Nobody. Okay, no, we met Mike Tyson. You did an hour long interview with Mike Tyson in a freaking boxing ring. The whole thing. And where were we in Vegas? MGM. We're in Vegas. MGM, yeah. Tyson you did an hour long interview with Mike Tyson in a freaking boxing ring though in

Starting point is 00:16:29 Where were you in Vegas? I'm Jim. We're in Vegas. Yeah, yeah, okay You couldn't have asked for a more chill out nicer guy. Yeah, number one. You wreaked of weed It was of course it was smoking weed before after doing whatever. Yeah, I we went I said hey Mike Let's take a picture. Let's put your hands up. You know, he goes I'm trying to fight you man put your hands down the shake like as sweet as they come. Michael, let's take a picture. Let's put your hands up. You know, he goes, he goes, man, I'm trying to fight you, man. Put your hands down. Let's shake it like as sweet as they come. Yeah. He's a, you know what you end up telling a whole story though. You're not telling a whole story.

Starting point is 00:16:51 What's the whole story? He was so high. I just said that within, no, no, it was so bad that within five minutes, I was asking for Cheeto. I wanted to eat. I'm like, I can't do this anymore with so much. But the interview was fantastic. He was great.

Starting point is 00:17:09 Yeah. And if you didn't know who Mike Tussin was, you said this guy is a freaking pacifist. Yeah. Like, you know, other than the Roy Jones thing, you know the one line when he fought, he tried Jones, he says like, everyone feels bad about Roy Jones.

Starting point is 00:17:21 He's like, I haven't fought in like 10 years. Roy Jones just retired two years ago. And the guys, what's the one Jim Gray, and he's like, you're freaking Mike Tyson. Everyone expects you to, to be right in the middle of the go. Yeah. And look, this guy got what he paid for,

Starting point is 00:17:35 but you're talking shit to Mike Tyson in an enclosed capsule in the sky. Enjoy your ass, what's going on? I guarantee he's gonna make, he's gonna make a lot of money that guy. I don't think that's the case. I don't think that's the case. Why is that? Wait for why this yeah, I feel you about the space. It's like any man like I would punch him 100% who the person is but Mike is sitting down the guy

Starting point is 00:17:54 Yes talking behind them but Mike got up turned around and Physically assaulted a guy in an airplane. I and I'm with you guys He's gonna sue and he's gonna make money. I guarantee you. Oh, you mean that way you mean through lost 100% love. Oh, yeah, maybe the air. I don't know I mean he kept out the cancel the airline but you yeah you could talk all the shit that you want Mike Tyson who has money beat the shit out of the guy trust me he's gonna get a lawsuit he's gonna use the Billy Madison defense 100% that's a salt brother that's a salt exactly exactly and don't be wrong I love I've I've I've had many experiences I just did the last factory tone like about two to three weeks ago and I adore Mike Tyson bro

Starting point is 00:18:28 He I look in his chocolate Sundays and he's sitting right there, and I was just like oh She'll just about to do that joke like not a really joke But I was like in LA like a week before Mike Tyson was at a comedy show and some guy pulled out a gun on the halls And and the guys like like in front of Mike and Mike just went Come here and the guy was like I love your mic and hug Mike with the gun. Wow. I love you guys, do you guys saw that? No, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was great.

Starting point is 00:18:50 Mike Tyson is so amazing and so Mike, the guy was like, I just love you, he hugged him. He hugged Mike and then he left with the gun. The thing with Mike Tyson is most, many athletes, many fighters especially, don't have a second act. No. Like you guys can do comedy into like, to your freaking down rickles into your 90 freaking years old, you can do comedy. Fighters don't really have a second act. No. You guys can do comedy until you're freaking down

Starting point is 00:19:05 and rickles until you're 90 freaking years old, you can do comedy. Fighters don't really have a second act. Mike Tyson has reinvented himself. 100%. As this like lovable, hungable character. Move actor, everything. Yeah, everything.

Starting point is 00:19:16 I mean, the hangover's a lot of it. Yeah, big time. Speaking, doing interviews, everything, doing the hot boxing, what was the thing that he did recently, the hot boxing with Francis Nagano, we talked about this as a guy. He's really turned into, like, he went from the baddest motherfucker on the planet

Starting point is 00:19:29 to like the most lovable, nicest guy. And he's cause he's always high. And exactly, and we just gotta remember, you know, he's a fucking beast. Yep. Oh, this is it. You guys saw this? Yeah, I saw it.

Starting point is 00:19:40 And then Mike, he literally hugged, look at Mike, Mike's like, come here. Do a gun was drawn and Mike Tyson didn't even stand up look He's like come here, man. Give me a hug you armed some of the Crazy about this this is the same room that I saw another video Yeah, yeah, Tony attack. This is not this is in Hollywood, bro next to a rascals and chicken a waffles You know, you know, I'm talking about my they need to stop they show in media They're the second clip.

Starting point is 00:20:05 The second clip. I've seen in three days. Yeah, 100%. I know you're talking about that too. Oh my God. You guys, as comedians, I mean, I don't know a choice of direction we're going here, is that, you know, with Chris Rocketing

Starting point is 00:20:16 assaulted on stage by Will Smith, you brought up Will Smith for you. Will. Yeah. You know, as a comedian, is this a concern of yours that someone coming up and you're an insult comic? Famic, if you book it, you're like a pede, a notch of you've seen it recently, bro. You're known as an insult comic.

Starting point is 00:20:30 Yeah, no doubt. Is this something that you are even more concerned about these days? Is what schmucks in the audience just walking up? No, you know what I'm concerned with is not anything physical. It's the recording of sets, putting things out out of context. 100%. That's the new scum of the earth to me. This people, that guy that got punched by Tyson

Starting point is 00:20:55 is obviously now that I didn't even know there was that second angle of him playing to his buddy that's across. He's saying, film me, do this, and this is the years world that we live in. What Will Smith did was Will Smith being mentally unhealthy, blatantly a victim of whatever Jada's putting. Well, I mean, you're talking about...

Starting point is 00:21:16 But I'm not afraid of physical things. What bothers me is people recording sets and the potential of putting those out without context, the potential of sending it through an editing bay and turning down the volume of laughter in a situation of a live show. Tony, I mean, people do that. Messing with clips. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. What happened to me, the guy that wanted to get famous from it in an interview because

Starting point is 00:21:37 he did so many interviews, admitted. He ended up admitting publicly that he edited the video and he decided when he was gonna release. Which isn't even completely true because the Chinese government accidentally released it before he woke up the day that he was supposed to. Something super. So talk about that, what happened with that?

Starting point is 00:21:55 Well, I woke up that morning and it was, what's weird is I had a crazy, like, crazy nightmare that woke me up at like 5 a.m. Which is a rare thing in itself and it was weird had my childhood home in it It was just a weird morning and I roll over you know how sometimes you don't really want to look at your phone You're just making sure nothing crazy is happening and sure enough I was just awake enough to make it from my text messages from my email to Twitter I'm like I'll check Twitter real quick.

Starting point is 00:22:26 And that like minute, like a few minutes before, someone's like, you, all of these like out of, like not making sense tweets, racist. You, you racist up, fucked. And I'm like, what, what? And it's like, what? Career done, dork loser. And I'm like, what? What? And it's like, what? Career done, dork loser. And I'm like, what is, what is this all happening? And I'm, so I end up clicking on one of the

Starting point is 00:22:50 tweets and clicking on the person's profile, right, to see what, maybe there's a tweet that they had from minutes before. And it was the video that was that ended up being released by him, the one that supposedly went viral hours later with English subtitles. but this was the same exact video with Chinese subtitles, colored the exact same as the video that he had in a band put out. So he made a version with English subtitles and Chinese subtitles, sent the Chinese subtitles to the Chinese whoever. News, government, there's no difference between the two as we know.

Starting point is 00:23:27 And they released it first. He must have slept in from maybe drank too much the night before, had a night because he ended up not posting his thing until 11 AM. Meanwhile, it was coming out of China at 5 AM. And I have screenshots to prove all of that. You know what I mean? Because I'm literally like, what is this crazy Chinese video of my set?

Starting point is 00:23:49 It's a workout set from last Thursday. I did an entire weekend to show our long sets and other cities that weekend somewhere else. Like I'm like, why is my workout set, my riffing, where I try new things and take major chances at a comfortable home club in my home city.

Starting point is 00:24:07 Like why is this even out there? And then I realized at 11 a.m. when he posts, this is what happened to me, happy Asian heritage month. Tony Hingecliff did this to me. And he did hashtagged like all of these Asian awareness, Asian eight things. What happened to you the next day? Like what happened career wise?

Starting point is 00:24:26 Did that help you? Did that hurt you? Did it really? At the time, at the very, very time it hurt me like immediately. Because I mean, at the time, every news source is, drag is basically telling the wrong side of the story. And immediately you're like, how do I handle this? And there's ways, right?

Starting point is 00:24:47 So half of your friends are saying, whatever you do, don't apologize. The other half are like, you have to apologize. One half is like, you need to just give an explanation of what happened. I can't believe this guy did this. Do you? What's your publicist saying?

Starting point is 00:25:00 I'm curious, what is the publicist saying? I had a manager, a lawyer, I don't exactly have a publicist, but my lawyer called me immediately, and he's like, you need to talk to, I have on the other line, I'm patching you in with the biggest crisis management lawyer, professional right now, I'm patching him in. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna hear what this guy has to say.

Starting point is 00:25:20 Yeah, all right. And this fucking guy, let me tell you what being canceled is like, this fucking guy knows what he's doing, and probably does this all the time, right? He's like, I me tell you what being canceled like this fucking guy knows what he's doing and probably does this all the time right he's like I know what you're going through Tony and I'm gonna save you you have to give me 15,000 now and then you'll give me 15,000 tomorrow when you see results and then if things are still bad you'll give me another 15 on the third day like this guy just this guy is already at 50,000 this is already the biggest bill for any employee

Starting point is 00:25:46 that I ever had. Is he giving you any advice thus far? Like what is he saying at this point? What's funny is he's got nothing. Is it really, I'm literally like, what can you do? He's like, well, I can get out ahead of this. I can call the news sources and make sure

Starting point is 00:25:59 that they don't post. I go, what if the news sources don't even know about this? Yeah, I'm not gonna inform them that this is a breaking story? Yeah. You had no answer to that. I go, what if, what if, I go, if I ignore this completely, isn't that the way to do it? And you guys, oh, it's a, it's a major, major risk could be the end.

Starting point is 00:26:16 But these guys, they're used to politicians, they're used to actors and non, and actual crimes mind you. Right. Not a comedian making fun of another comedian at a comedy show where they're warned beforehand. You're gonna hear things that are, what are recording is not allowed. All of these aspects are in play.

Starting point is 00:26:36 So these crisis lawyer crazy people are used to dealing with politicians that actually fucked up. Or people that aren't comedians messing up. I mean, the craziest part to me proof that news is at its lowest point ever is that if you googled me that day as a journalist reporting on what you're seeing, exactly what you just said a few minutes ago is true, which is my Wikipedia and I think it's changed since then.

Starting point is 00:27:03 I think it now says an American comedian. Yeah, but just scroll down a little bit further. Before that, literally when this happened, it said Tony Hinchcliff, because I remember, it goes, Tony Hinchcliff is an American insult comedian that blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right, yeah, it's changed now. And anybody can see it right there, isn't it?

Starting point is 00:27:20 Oh, yeah, the second one. In salt comedian, yeah. But it was originally, here's how crazy this is, because I remember, it was originally the first line, right after both the Hinchcliff is an American insult in the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half of the second half comedian are the people that read my Wikipedia before I come in and do a podcast. Right. Well, look, let's let's adjust this head on because I had, look, I used to do stand-up comedy many years ago. Vinnie's a standard comedian. Pat is as great a storytellers. It comes. He just hasn't been on stage yet. I had heard of your name peripherally. Like, I've followed Sagarah for years and obviously Rogan and I've heard of your name. I've made, you know, I'm scared stuff, but I wasn't like,

Starting point is 00:28:05 all right, what is Tony Stanford? What are you talking about? And then boom, this thing hit the atmosphere. That's what I stand for. It's exactly, is that type of insanity to where either you're loving it or you're pissed off because you don't know that I'm doing what I strategically do. Like that is my art form, is crazy ass shit,

Starting point is 00:28:27 like to the brim, like not every comedian, what's crazy is that if it had been a clean to an extreme we could say Brian Regan or Jim Gaffigan. If he did that, that's crazy. Well, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this. So what is today in comedy? What can't you touch?

Starting point is 00:28:48 Because like when I was watching Hans do what he was doing, all he did is make fun of Asians. But he can get away with it because obviously he's and the jokes he said by the way, how many then were like pros and the line to the average person? Everyone can do it. But he can do it. So because he's Asian. Yeah. No, because here's why.

Starting point is 00:29:06 And this is a one of the, yeah. But when I, let me ask the question, and you run it, I wanna hear from you, because you're, so, so what can't I touch? What can you touch? What's gray area? What's super risky? And who today can touch anything

Starting point is 00:29:19 and no one can say shit about it? Right. So, the interesting thing, and I'll go immediately going back, because this is the answer, the reason why Hans can do that isn't because he's Asian. What's interesting about what he's doing is it's the fact that he's smiling big the entire time. He's likable. He's putting the jokes on himself oftentimes in a a in a deprecation.

Starting point is 00:29:45 Neaky way he makes it about himself. He even though maybe he's not a liberal, you know, I'm not speaking for him, but he'll say I'm a liberal. So I, whatever, I'm not going to do his jokes, but he puts it on him instead of making fun of women. He'll go, I'm like a woman. I'm his insecure, you know what I mean, whatever he's making fun of everything at once,

Starting point is 00:30:06 with a smile, the art form, the art form is getting it across and making it work. That's why another interesting thing that happened, you know, with my, this is him? Yep. He's an Asian. Almost every picture though, look at him.

Starting point is 00:30:20 What do you notice? Look at his smiling. And that second one, of course, his people are idiots. How they found that one of him not smiling is like, everything about the system. He is Asian, you mean? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:32 Okay, so yeah. Well, I mean, that's what I'm saying, is that that's what I do too, is it's about getting the things across, it's about making it work if you're up there and you're literally, you know, and that is to my own to my own judgment here. Like, I'm sort of burying myself because one thing that I didn't do in the video that got me

Starting point is 00:30:52 in trouble was smile a lot, but it's because the reason why I did what happened there was because his whole thing before the five minutes of his set before I went up was white people are so mean. And he was doing things to try to get like not a sympathy applause break, but not funny, deep stuff. Like all that we would, this, this, this, and you're expecting a joke. And he basically goes like, all we want white people is for you to be nice to us. Yeah. And it's like, I'm standing in the back getting ready to go on. And I think to myself, the funniest thing I could do right now on a Thursday night where phones are supposed to be locked up, it's my show. I'm the surprise on this show.

Starting point is 00:31:39 Like it's not my show, my show. I wasn't headlining that show. That was a workout set on a show called a secret show. It's the secret show every Thursday because you don't know who's going to talk that show. That was a workout set on a show called a secret show. It's the secret show. Every Thursday, because you don't know who's going to- You're a drop-in. Right, I'm a drop-in. It's where I work out stuff that I thought about

Starting point is 00:31:53 driving there, or yesterday in the shower, or whatever. It's a place to test out things. It's not your tight set in maybe. It's not your tight 20, your test and shit out. Exactly. And because he was going, white people are so mean, white people are so mean, and then it he was going, white people are so mean, white people are so mean, and then it's five minutes of white people are so mean.

Starting point is 00:32:08 And at that point, I'm like, I'm going to go 100 miles an hour here. The funniest thing I can do after his set, and sure enough, again, when the whole thing was breaking, what's his name from TMZ Harvey, whoever, of course, he took the interview, this moron comedian that tried to do this to me. And he took the interview and with Harvey. And even he goes, all I heard

Starting point is 00:32:31 in that video was some laughter. And he goes, well, yeah, but you should have seen the looks on the people's faces. I'm like, what are we talking about here? So back to past original question, what's off limits? What's great? Nothing is off limits if you can sell it. If you can do it with a smile and get a big laugh then nothing's off limits. It's about that getting laughter.

Starting point is 00:32:52 Not period. I definitely think, and yeah, he's right. And some people are gonna be offended, but if you have half the crowd dying of laughter and the other happens, that's amazing. That's the love. I forgot which special was with Louis CK. Anybody could talk the hell with your race.

Starting point is 00:33:07 You could talk about anything if it's funny. Louis CK special to know what's the name of it, but it was his N word joke where he's like, he actually says the full N word life and it was one of the most brilliant jokes where he's like, why people got away with saying the N word? Because when you say the N word, you're making me say it in my head.

Starting point is 00:33:25 He's like, why don't you take responsibility? And you say anything, bro. And nothing is off limits, but like you said, you gotta be, it has to be funny, bro. It has to be something where people go, oh shit, like, that's a great written joke. So any race, dude, I'm little decent. I can talk about anybody, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:33:40 Anything, anybody, any race, any situation, as long as it's personal to me, this is funny, bro. People are gonna laugh. I do a lot of the rooms I mean? Anything, anybody, any race, any situation, as long as it's personal, it's funny, bro. People can laugh. I do a lot of the rooms I do are predominantly, you know, African-American. I talk about everything, but there's nothing that I don't talk about. No, Pat, do you ask that because you think

Starting point is 00:33:55 that there's certain things that should be off limits, there's certain things, you know, that are universally funny, like, do you have any strong opinions on like, all right, this, there's certain things are completely off limits. Like talking on like, all right, this are certain things are completely off limits. Like talking, for instance, in an UFC, what's the guy's name would just beat Moss,

Starting point is 00:34:11 but I'll call be coming to talk shit about doesn't purge his wife and kids. Like to me, that is, I guess that's on off limits, but that is fucking disgusting. But free speech, do what you want. Yeah, but that's different. What that does is, if anybody laughs at that, you're like that.

Starting point is 00:34:28 I don't know if that makes sense or not. Like, if you think that's funny when Kobe says what he says about Dustin or he says that about Jorge and he says that about all this stuff, it's just a matter of time until somebody, like, Mazvidal found him in a restaurant and he comes out and and gets into a fight. You can't say stuff.

Starting point is 00:34:46 You know, I'm telling you, if he says that to the wrong UFC Armenian fighter, I'm telling you, it's over for that guy. You can't talk like that to people. You just cannot. So set that aside. That to me is in a different category of disrespect. Yeah, I don't know where you want to put that. And it's the person that's doing it, right?

Starting point is 00:35:03 A fighter is one thing. A politician saying something is another thing. Like, but a comedian, you were supposed to be the ones that are sort of a little bit responsible for pushing the limits strategically. There is an article. Yeah, but I think you need to be free though.

Starting point is 00:35:21 That's what I think you need to be free. I think I'm concerned if you're not free. I run an insurance company. Okay, so we just had a convention. We had a few thousand people I've been in Orlando last few days. And we had a great time. We made the announcement on speakers by the way.

Starting point is 00:35:33 So we have pen and tellers performing. We're shutting that MGM grant for a week. In August, 15,000 people will have at this event. I'll have pen and teller open up. Then I have Nelly is gonna be performing. It's putting on a concert. We have a Kurt Warner will be a speaking, then we have Layla Ali will be there as well,

Starting point is 00:35:51 and last but not least, you ready for this one? I'm ready, Shaq. Oh, Shaq, after the Kobe interview, he blocked me a message me, pissed off, because that whole interview got 300 million views, and it was all over the place. Are you gonna do the same thing you did with Tyson, or what do you like the same kind of vibe?

Starting point is 00:36:06 We're gonna have a, we'll see what's gonna happen. We'll see what's gonna happen. It should be a good conversation because he said, I already have a question here about this. But here's what I did. Let me tell you what happened with me.

Starting point is 00:36:15 So I'm coming up in business and I'm learning from these advisors and mentors and the rule of thumb in business is what? Never talk religion, never talk sex, and never talk politics, right? These are like the three things, or whatever other things that people wanna add to it. I'm like, you know what?

Starting point is 00:36:31 I don't know, I like talking religion. I like talking politics, and I don't mind talking about sex because at that time I'm single, so I'm like, I'm dealing with a bunch of young guys. Hey, they wanna talk about it, talk about it, right? And then you are smaller, so when you're smaller and you're doing it, the risk is higher. As you're getting bigger and you're doing it,

Starting point is 00:36:50 you have a little bit more credibility. But it comes to a point where you are managing expectation with the audience. And let me explain to what I mean by this. First time I did an interview with Michael Franci's and I did a mob interview and after that, I didn't review 20 other mobsters and we did a bunch of different things. But the first time I did it, I can't believe Pat did this.

Starting point is 00:37:10 You should have never done this. You're an idiot, you're this. Why would you associate yourself? I'm like, it's my show. It's what I'm interested in. If you're not, don't worry about it. Exactly. There's 50 million other channels and I started interviewing bodybuilders.

Starting point is 00:37:23 Why would a business channel interview bodybuilders? Why would you have on Dorian Yates? Why would you have on this person? Listen, I like bodybuilding. You don't like it? Go elsewhere. Yeah, then I was interviewed. So then why is pat talking so much politics? Why pat talking CIA people? Why is pat talking to communists? This is a business channel. You shouldn't interview 10 communists Professors and all these other guys. hate America listen it's my channel yeah so what I'm doing in that moment with my fans my audience I manage an expectations this is what I like you like it great you don't you don't like it I think in business like yesterday I'm giving a message the whole message I give yesterday at the closing session

Starting point is 00:38:00 what's about politics yeah and then the story I told I told the following story I said was about politics. And then the story I told, I told the following story, I said, when 9-11 happened, and everybody is looking around, say, wait a minute, two planes, that's the enemy, are you kidding me? No problem. What do you black, you're white, I don't care, where's your kid, I'm gonna go help you.

Starting point is 00:38:17 You're Republican, you're Democrat, I don't give a shit if you're Republican or Democrat. Today we're all Americans, right? What happened the last two years with COVID is, we said COVID came and say China's the one that calls a lot of this. Rather than saying that's the enemy, we said, you're a Republican, before I'm an American, I'm a Democrat,

Starting point is 00:38:34 before I'm an American, we forgot the fact that we're Americans first, before we're political issues. Now, 10 years ago, 12 years ago, I had dinner with George Winnon, I first talked politics, people said you shouldn't talk about that. And I'm like, so I was a little bit on edge myself. And maybe I shouldn't talk about this in business

Starting point is 00:38:51 because I'm losing people, right? And then eventually I said, five years, I'm asking myself, I can't stop talking about this. This is all I think about. So my managing of expectation with the audience was, this is what I talk about. If you're uncomfortable, you can go to another company. Of course.

Starting point is 00:39:06 But this is my comfort zone. So I think as a comedian, you are essentially, you know, because you can get lost and see and one guy goes viral as a comedian, like maybe I should try that guy, still on one guy's own, maybe I should, I'm like, dude, that's just not my style. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:39:20 This is my style. What do you want me to do? And then you stick to it and you manage that expectation with your audience. 100%. And that's why none, I didn't lose a single fan This is my style. What do you want me to do? And then you stick to it and you manage that expectation with your audience. 100%. And that's why none, I didn't lose a single fan during that entire thing. Without a doubt, everyone knows that that's my thing.

Starting point is 00:39:34 So when people come and see me live, I don't have something that's really pushing the limit. That's then they're not getting what they make. They're like, what are you doing? You pushed the limit. That's then they're not getting. They're like, what are you doing? You pushed the limit. All we did was laugh the whole time. Meanwhile, I need to get them to literally go, oh God, I'm, oh, no. That's all I did when I was listening to you.

Starting point is 00:39:57 Yeah. I'm telling you, I was listening like, freaking a disguise unbelievable. If you haven't been, have you seen as a... No, live, I've seen as obviously a huge... I thought Tony's unbelievable. If you haven't been, have you seen as a... No, live, I've seen as obviously. I thought Tony's message was unreal. Hans was third, you came right before Joe. And then Joe came up and Joe did what Joe did.

Starting point is 00:40:18 But dude, you were just going like this. You were going like this. And it's funny watching you how you handled it. At first one of the mics wasn't working. They brought the new mic, and you just in control, you're dressing your thing that you have and you did what you did.

Starting point is 00:40:30 But again, I want you to be free. I want comedians to be free. I want a comedian to offend me. Go ahead, say something. I'm a Middle Eastern Armenian. Say something. It's okay, I want to hear it. But about it be funny.

Starting point is 00:40:42 You know what I mean? Make me laugh. What's my balls, but if it's funny. I think that's what you guys are saying, that in your world, if you can make it funny. 100%. Yeah. Let me ask you guys, Tony. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:40:51 Sorry, well, I mean, look, I think comedians have a very necessary role in society, especially right now in America today. I think, as far as we talked about, this whole conversation basically started on, I remember when I almost got canceled, right? So we're talking about cancel culture right now. Comedians have a longer leash

Starting point is 00:41:09 than any other person in America, whether you're a business person, CEO, whether you're a politician, whether you're just average Joe show on, there's a sheet, comedians have that ability to say, I could push the envelope. I can push the limit here. Look at from Lenny Bruce, who got canceled,

Starting point is 00:41:24 get thrown in jail, to Karlin, who turned from basically from a comedian to philosopher, to a punter, and then you have Richard Pryor and everything that he was doing, Eddie Murphy, but like these days right now, Louis CK got fucking canceled. For doing something not even a joke,

Starting point is 00:41:44 some other stuff. Some other stuff. Yeah, okay. Yeah, first. Got swept up in the Me Too movements. Yeah, okay. He got canceled by Hollywood though. It's totally different.

Starting point is 00:41:54 But then he's selling his own specials and selling out theaters and stuff. But he got canceled one of the best in the world. There's a reason he's not headlining like he was before. But here's my point. But he is. Here's my point. Okay Dave Chappelle they tried to cancel Dave Chappelle, right?

Starting point is 00:42:09 Yeah, whether you believe that or not. They tried to cancel fucking Rogan, right? Of course, like everything is like the end-hole the end thing But if there's anybody that's not cancelable cancelable, it's the biggest People the biggest microphones and the biggest, people with the biggest microphones and the biggest leash are comedians. As a comedian, do you feel a sense of responsibility to say, all right, things are kind of crazy here in America right now. Let me, I gotta add, Tim Dillon is great at this kind of stuff

Starting point is 00:42:36 like that. Do you feel a sense of like, you can't cancel me, I'm a freaking comedian. This is kind of my job here. What are your thoughts on just overall component of what it's like to be a comedian and your role in society. See what I'm saying here?

Starting point is 00:42:49 Yeah, I mean, totally, yeah. We are, it's already proven. I mean, what you just said about Louis being canceled or Dave Chappelle being canceled or to them trying to cancel Joe Rogan, like none of that is a thing. We did 15,000 people on Wednesday. Dave Chappelle will always sell out

Starting point is 00:43:04 what everyone's to do. Anybody that's ever seen Louie, unless you've had literally had somebody in a hotel room jerk off in front of you, he didn't lose a fan. I mean, these, you know, you can't cancel that which works. If it's not funny, that's different. But you can't cancel comedians. It's just impossible. What you can do. What the one option is, is you have to hope that they get arrested. Like, they'll Cosby is canceled. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:43:34 But he's out now. He's free. And if he, if he doesn't stand up, he'd sell out in a heartbeat. He would sell out with his crowd. In a heartbeat. A bunch of creeps. Bill Cosby would 100% so out and hours.

Starting point is 00:43:45 Oh, arena, whatever trust me. So 20 just said something very important. Oh, 20 if you don't mind unpacking that you said, but Louis CK got canceled with Hollywood not canceled. So unpack what that means to you. So he was writing and directing and producing and acting and those things. You're leaving it into these corporations hands all of a sudden, and the second that that happens, you've given it to them.

Starting point is 00:44:10 I mean, luckily, even Netflix was put on the pressure cooker with the Chappelle stuff. It wasn't Chappelle who was getting hurt by it, it was them, right? Because they're going Netflix, take this down, or else you're against, transgender, whatever, which if you listen to the joke, there's nothing to even be mad at at all. It's Tim covering a subject, getting laughs, being actually a supporter of transgender rights.

Starting point is 00:44:33 But nobody listens to anything. It doesn't matter. And what they're saying doesn't matter. Those people that the Twitter mobs and everything, they don't care at all. They're bored. They're always looking for their next thing. And you know, they're always moving on. But getting canceled by Hollywood, I mean, he wanted to do that stuff. And now, and I know what's going to happen, he's going to make things with his own

Starting point is 00:44:54 money. Of course. And he's going to make more money because the next thing that's going to be the next thing, or perhaps the tide is turning as we're seeing with Netflix and Disney and HBO winning this race because why? Because they tend to stick with absolutely good content. It's not about this or pandering towards this. I mean, the most watched, most awarded show right now is succession. It's the only thing that I'm really, that in Ozark, right? It's like two of the most lauded things and it's about what rich white people make in fast sums of money. So like, meanwhile, other shows are like,

Starting point is 00:45:32 hey, come over here for Black History Month or it's Asian Heritage Month. We have these special Asian shows and people are starting to catch on like, why are you, why are you pandering to me? Because that's what they think that people want because everybody's so woke right now. And pandering is the way in our world and being a comedian, that's the lowest form. It's not who's the be.

Starting point is 00:45:52 Yeah, is trying to, oh, this is a black audience. So I'm gonna sound a little bit black or this is, I'm gonna do these jokes because this, this, this, right? Yeah, so that leads me to what just happened with Netflix. One day, okay, there's stock drops, 39%. right? Yeah, so so that leads me to what just happened with Netflix one one day okay their stock drops 39% they lose over 50 billion dollars in a day folks we're not talking like you know 50 billion in a year and that's a lot of money in a day

Starting point is 00:46:17 they lose 50 billion dollars 52 billion dollars but let me read this to you this article okay so no chill Netflix shares drops 39% after massive subscriber loss. Netflix tumbled 39% on Wednesday extending a sell-off that has set it on a course for a 60. Forgive me, 60 billion dollar wipe out on a market value after it reported. Sharp the client and subscriber-based Netflix stock dropped has plunged this year. You ready? This year in 2022, 64%. Shacked Wall Street by losing 200,000 customers in the first quarter. The first time it has shed subscribers since 2011.

Starting point is 00:46:53 It also projected it will shrink by another two million customers in the second quarter. So let me get this straight. So they lost 200,000 and they're sending it going to lose 2 million more thou in the second quarter. The drop in the customers has that Netflix to break some of its long-standing rules. It will introduce a cheaper advertising supported options for subscribers in the next couple years.

Starting point is 00:47:15 We'll start cracking down on people sharing passwords even before, by the way, can you go to Twitter and show what I just tweeted about? Netflix a couple days go go My go to my Twitter account if you can and go lower go lower go lower check this out. You're about to be show shot Keep going lower. Keep going lower. I love the short right there right there make that make that bigger Check this out love this is Twitter. This is Netflix tweeting this out. Wow March 10, 2017 Love is sharing your password And now you're saying they're gonna crack it down Wow March 10, 2017. Love is sharing your password.

Starting point is 00:47:45 And now you're saying they're gonna crack it down. I think these guys completely forgot what the hell happened with Blockbuster. How did you make your money? How did you make your money? Blockbuster had these late fees. I go return a movie and I love Blockbuster. I was every Friday Saturday Blockbuster.

Starting point is 00:48:03 I love it. And you'd go there and next thing you know, boom, you got seven late fees, I was, I was, every Friday Saturday, blog, blog, and you'd go there and next thing you know, boom, you got seven late fees, 29 bucks, 29, all this other stuff. And the next thing you know, you know, hey guys, we can have some more late fees, some more late fees. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:48:15 Then they're wondering why they're losing 60 billion dollars. And on top of that, the shows are coming up with lately, right? You got one show here which shows what? This is this the show of, it's called, he's expecting, he's expected. It came out today. I mean, today are yesterday. It's really came out today. It's really came out today. It's like in sharing passwords, not because it's, yeah, it's, yeah,

Starting point is 00:48:33 exactly. It's, it's really come out. I'm curious. It came out today. Yeah, today are yesterday. You know what this means? If this came out today, or yesterday, millions of people just said, we don't want to watch this kind of show. 100% 100%. So then the question becomes the following. The question becomes the following. I'm going to use the example of our comedian. You go up on stage, you tell a joke.

Starting point is 00:48:56 Okay, this is how honest capitalism is and how honest comedy is. Okay, you go up on stage and you tell a joke. All right. And how quickly, if you're testing a new joke, how quickly are you going to know in an audience of a hundred people your joke sucks? How quickly? Ten seconds.

Starting point is 00:49:14 Yeah, me. You'll know immediately. Okay, yeah. How quickly will you know that new joke is freaking awesome? Immediately. Okay, so let me ask you this. What if there's a hundred people in there and you tell a joke and One person laughs. Are you gonna tell that joke?

Starting point is 00:49:28 Depends on how they're Here's the point the point is Netflix. Yeah is telling the joke just to entertain that one person Yeah, what the hell is the matter with you? You're sick. I was given a sales presentation and I was 26 years old, 25 years old. And it was the most, one of the most awkward moments of me giving a sales presentation. So I come in because I watched a guy do that more and I said, I wanna speak like this guy.

Starting point is 00:49:55 So I go in a cell phone, I wanna say something to you guys. You know, we're doing a meeting, this is a very important meeting that we're having new people flew out to be here. And we have to finish in an hour, but I want everybody to stick around. I don't want anybody to get up and distract anybody else. If you are pregnant and you need to do that, no prom tolly understand about nobody else. So I go on my message, 30 minutes into it, one lady gets up and she's going to the restroom.

Starting point is 00:50:17 Yeah. And I said, it's okay, she can get up because she had a little, you know, little, God. I said, it's totally fine. She's pregnant. She's walking. She's just I'm not Prager. Oh my god guys. Yeah, let me tell you it was the most uncomfortable. I'm I'm like, so now try to do this. Here's a part. How do you come back from the other 99 people in the room? Oh right there. I'm saying this has got to be the dumbest thing you said. Oh my God. 25 to 20. I wanted to finish that meeting as quickly as possible. Oh God. Netflix had a moment like that and they didn't pay attention to the school and they didn't make the adjustment. I don't understand what the hell they're going through. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and woke and go broke. I'm seeing it so much and it's like,

Starting point is 00:51:06 you see the writing on the wall. What is going on? Like what, what, you're not seeing the writing on the wall. You ever have, when you have a breakup with a girl, or a guy and everybody comes, like just a friend you come to and says, I just want to break up. What's the first thing your friend's gonna tell you?

Starting point is 00:51:22 Don't worry about it, there's more fish in the sea. No, no, no, friends gonna say. She sucks anyway. She sucks anyway. That's a hard thing. Do you know what I found out about her? Here's what I found out about her. You know what?

Starting point is 00:51:31 We all looked up with her. You're all banged, you're like, what? What the fuck are you gonna tell me? And then you're kinda like, and you're kinda like, yeah, no, you know, that's really why this relationship didn't work out, right? Now flip it, flip it and say, how many times your friends come up to you and say so

Starting point is 00:51:45 Why do you think you didn't work out I screwed up? Yeah, it was me. It was me You think Netflix is gonna say was me my bad Netflix is gonna say to girlfriend's fault Yeah, there's one person as a business owner. You never blame in a tool yourself. No, no, no, no There's one person you never blame the customer the customer Yeah, right. What are you doing blaming the oats because they're sharing passwords? You forgot five years ago. You told them sharing password. Right.

Starting point is 00:52:11 They're losing their identity. They're fast. So full transparency. Do you guys all have Netflix? I can't actually cancel it. Like, could I be asking or see? No, I can't say that a few years ago. I'm sharing my sister Vernex.

Starting point is 00:52:22 I'm sharing, she gave me, could I was paying it for myself? And I was like, no, she's like, just get on mine. There's four of us on my way. You guys are sharing passwords. Sharing passwords, Hunter. Just so you know, there's gonna be cops outside. There you go, yeah. The way their Netflix is coming out.

Starting point is 00:52:33 I think I see the cops. Tyler, you got Netflix or no? Yeah, it's a shared password. Yeah, of course. Are you being serious or are you being sarcastic? It's where you go. Okay, yeah, well, it's where you go. Why would you pay for Netflix nowadays?

Starting point is 00:52:43 You know so many people just show you. I pay for it, but I'm bad with money. I don't pay attention to any of these things. And I get them and this is what's obviously what's really happening is their content sucks right now. They have nothing new out. Everything, there's nothing. Every, you're always one project away from having

Starting point is 00:53:01 another so many subscribers. I mean, House of Cards was unbelievable. That's what started it, right? People are like, you have to watch the show. Kevin Spacey's killing it. You can't blink, it's unbelievable. That's what happens. HBO, same thing.

Starting point is 00:53:14 I mean, they are the standard. Game of Thrones was the most watched thing on TV. Soprano's was unbelievable. They have all the awards to prove it, but most importantly, they have the people's attention. Succession is unbelievable. I'm a byproduct. I subscribe to Netflix.

Starting point is 00:53:35 The moment I got in Carl D. Moss, a friend who I've never met and we met on Facebook and we would talk shit to each other politics. And my dad said, you have to watch house of cards. I love it. So I come home after hearing it from these guys 50 times, I said, okay, I'm going to Tuscan Italy. We're taking like 40 people to Italy.

Starting point is 00:53:53 And a night before I got a flight the next day, jenzo sleep with the baby, I go in the room and I said, let me watch one episode. It's probably bullshit anyway. I said, baby, we gotta get this app Netflix. So we get Netflix and then I watch one episode and then I finish it at 7 a.m. Okay, I'm like, I, next day,

Starting point is 00:54:08 I slept on the entire flight to watch. I was, of course, so you're right. Meaning you are one show away from fixing this, but they have to fix it. But just, you can't do this, you got a great plan from great technology. You kicked everyone's ass and you make this stupid of a mistake because 0.1% of the audience is complaining.

Starting point is 00:54:28 Are you out of your mind? Yeah, Paramount Plus got me five months ago. They put the new, they're so smart that they put the new, the only comedy that I even watch is South Park. And well, no, it's not, but they put one one hour special. They did one thing, but you couldn't get it on YouTube. You couldn't get it on the Comedy Central. You couldn't get it on the Hulu,

Starting point is 00:54:51 all these different platforms that they're on. They're so smart, they made such a smart deal. I can't imagine what they gave the South Park guides for this, but they go the only way you can see this episode is by subscribing now to Paramount Plus for whatever it is 599 a month. However much it was, and this is what they're banking on, is that people are going to forget that they're subscribed to the thing. I mean, I've paid for five months for something that I watched for an hour. I don't even, I mean, yeah, I'm sure I've finished it, but

Starting point is 00:55:21 it's, it's got to be something. By By the way, let me just say this and then, a question, I think Netflix is worth 20 bucks a month. I think Netflix is worth 30 bucks a month. I know it's, people are gonna be like, Pat, you've lost your mind. Netflix has so much content, it's worth 20, 30, 40 bucks a month. I paid 125 bucks a cable. I'd pay 99 bucks a month to Netflix.

Starting point is 00:55:41 So this thing when people say, oh, they lost because they raised prices, bullshit, they didn't lose because of they raised prices. They started trying to win and bow down to a 0.1% audience thinking that's and they screwed up. People would be willing to pay 99, I would pay 99 bucks premium to have certain benefits over anything else. I would pay for it. So it's not a dollar thing that people are bitching about folks forget just 20 years ago we were paying a 100 bucks cable. Let me say this one more time 20 years ago in the 90s people were paying gladly a hundred plus dollars a month for cable. So don't tell me it's the 12 bucks a month Netflix all this stuff. Their

Starting point is 00:56:21 leadership team will royally screw down. I'm sorry, go ahead. Yeah, well, if you miss the show, it disappeared. Yeah, you never get the CD. Unless you have the sickest technology. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Well, look, I want to get your perspective on something, not as a father, not as a consumer, not as a content creator, but as a CEO.

Starting point is 00:56:37 Because for as long as I've been doing self-propelling entertainment for the past few years, we've actually applauded, read hate things for being such a brilliant CEO, right? You wrote a book called, what, no rules, rules, right? And we've actually been singing his credit for years, okay? So I want you to put your CEO head on right now for a second

Starting point is 00:56:55 and ask yourself, okay, they clearly are having some sort of board meeting right now. I'm being like, all right guys, during COVID, 2020-21, they were on top of the world. The subscriber ship was up, bananas, everyone is on lockdown. Up until what, six months ago, Squid Game, which I never saw was the biggest fucking show

Starting point is 00:57:14 in the history of Netflix, everything. Yeah. Dude, you're the man, you're the best, you're the best CEO ever. And now, boom, just like that, their stock has dropped, crumbled Netflix has basically been kind of canceled by the market.

Starting point is 00:57:28 So you as a CEO, what is Reed Hastings saying right now? He's got to be having like a, you know, a war room conversation with his team saying, guys huddle up, you know, he probably has a picture of that, that, that, the Asian guy and he's like, I don't ever want to see the ship again. So let me do what I just did. Here's what, I don't ever want to see the ship again. So let me do what I just did. Here's what I just did. I just went on CrunchBase.

Starting point is 00:57:48 And I looked at who sits under board. It's the first thing I did. You got Rich Barton who sits under board. You got Timothy Haley who sits under board since 98. You got Jay Hogue who sits under board since 99. You got Anne who's been sitting there since 2010. You got Anne Sweeney who's been there since 2015. Brad Smith who's been there since 2015

Starting point is 00:58:09 and he got Matthias Dupfner who's been there since 2018 and then he got Reed who's been there since 97. Okay. Do you remember when the whole thing happened with Twitter and everybody was bashing, you know, Jack Dorsey's this, Jack Dorsey's that, Jack Dorsey's did, it's Jack, I can't believe Jack Dorsey,

Starting point is 00:58:23 you know, kicked suspended or, you know, silence, Trump and Jack was kind of like playing the you know a neutral side and I was oh Jack Dorsey's fault and in Jack Dorsey resigns and boom kind of works his way out I think may is gonna be his last month to be an executive chairman and a new guy comes in and takes on like oh shit Jack was actually not as bad as the new guys right the new guy changing guy changing him all this other stuff. And now, you know, musk is talking about potentially buying Twitter. And in doing so, he's thinking about doing something with Dorsey. Why is Dorsey's name being mentioned again in some like that? So anyways, so the point is, I don't know if it's read. As a company gets bigger, you know, certain things you no longer are as involved in,

Starting point is 00:59:05 especially their model. If you've ever read their book, No Rules Rules, they'll give you a budget and they'll say, go do whatever you want to buy and you don't even need to get it approved by us. That's their model. Like you can go buy a six and a half million dollar project and you don't even need to buy the runner by read

Starting point is 00:59:18 and a lot of their C-sweets. I love that we're gonna start implementing that at value team and I really, they're so funny. Go for it. So the point is, the point is, I don't know how much of it is him right now But I can tell you right now you Effected people's pockets. There are people who had five million dollars in netflix stock

Starting point is 00:59:36 And you just cost that person that had five million dollars in netflix stock you cost them two million dollars in a day Yeah, one day two million. And that person has a tailored mutual self. That person who just lost $2 million in a day, that person is not sitting on the sideline saying, oh, it's okay, read, they trust you. No, no, no. They're getting emails, they're losing their minds, they're calling their broker,

Starting point is 00:59:59 then Morgan's calling these guys, and Goldman's probably already had a call with them. Anybody that's given them money, there's a lot of difficult calls they're going through and typically in situations like this you have to regroup, you have to bring new leadership team in, you got to fire some people, you got to let some people go, they've gone through this before. You say fire people from the board? How does that work?

Starting point is 01:00:18 Not from the board. You can't. You need to bring some new people to the board. They got a, they need to add three more because 11 is an odd number. But there's some moves I'd be making if I was them, but if they don't move too quickly, shit's gonna get very ugly. And by the way, Bank of America is not even saying to hold. So the market's not even putting them in the whole category.

Starting point is 01:00:38 You know how there's a buy hold and sell category? They're in the sell category. They're not even in the whole category. So people are not even saying it's over, meaning grace for impact, it's gonna go lower. I didn't say that. A lot of the analysts are saying. Let me go one step deeper with you.

Starting point is 01:00:52 You know who we play that game with a lot of people. Okay, who are the most important? Yeah. See all board member. No, no, not so much that. Like universities, social media. How do you describe that? The most influential parts

Starting point is 01:01:06 of society. What is the, what are the reasons, the top five reasons that Netflix is it, is it because they're, they, you know, pandered to woke culture, is it because of content, is it because of competition, because of Paramount, Disney, and Amazon, like what are the three or four reasons that this is happening?

Starting point is 01:01:24 It can't just be, well, their content is in that good, or because they gotount, Disney, and Amazon, like, what are the three or four reasons that this is happening? It can't just be, well, their content isn't that good, or because they got a pregnant guy. There's got to be some business reasons. You know what's one of the worst things that happens to athletes to come out. So, I saw a Conor McGregor video. I showed yesterday in front of the guys, and when he says, you know, people say,

Starting point is 01:01:38 a loss is really going to be bad, and blah, blah, blah, blah, he says, let me tell you what's worse than a loss that can ruin your career, or win. When you win, you get softer. When you win, you show He says, let me tell you what's worse than a loss that can ruin your career or win. When you win, you get softer. When you win, you shop a little later. When you win, you get a little cockier. When you win, you become casual. When you win, natural instinct to most people.

Starting point is 01:01:53 These guys have been winning for too long. It's like, how many consecutive quarters have you been kicking ass? You've gotten cocky. You're throwing your weight around. You're like, oh, we got a Grammy. We got the Oscars, and all that. I'll just go, no.

Starting point is 01:02:03 Here's who we are. And the market just said, listen, bro, chill out. Yes you're a billionaire. Yes you got a lot of money. Salute for producing a great product and putting a company that almost bouts you out for 50 million bucks blockbuster. You put an eight billion dollar out, but this is capitalism. Customers comes first and you just screwed up.

Starting point is 01:02:22 So it doesn't matter. They royally screwed up because they've been winning for too long. And maybe the best thing that happened is an L that they just took. Yeah. I saw it with Comedy Central. I mean, they're still a channel technically,

Starting point is 01:02:36 but they're not famous for their content, their original content now. I don't know anything that's on their network that isn't a reboot. Like they're just running office reruns now, but it wasn't that way. Back in 2009, 2010, I was writing on a show called The Burn with Jeff Ross, the roast master general. And I remember sitting at the table for one of the, our first like important meetings

Starting point is 01:03:05 that we had to clean up the writers room for, there were some comedy central execs coming in, like Woop-D Woop. And they came in and I remember at one point, literally one of them said the words, because someone had brought up Netflix. And in 2009 Netflix wasn't really, like it wasn't that big of a deal, but it was coming.

Starting point is 01:03:25 And I think it was even me that mentioned, like, you know, Netflix does this thing where they don't have commercials, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever we were talking about. And I remember the Comedy Central exec who is since fired, not a board member, a regular executive, someone who's supposed to decide what gets a second season or what, who we should work with and all these things. And I remember him specifically saying, we are Comedy Central. We are the comedy go to on cable and people will always come back to us. Can't be like that.

Starting point is 01:03:55 No way. It's not how market works. You're in the room when this happens. He was gone two or three years later. Not only is he gone, but in these guys, you know, again, Hollywood, they all hire each other's friends. I know, these guys are all executives at Apple now and here now and Netflix now, by the way, because they need people with resumes that look like they were doing something.

Starting point is 01:04:16 But meanwhile, they were sinking the ship as it was going on. They buried this show, which was hilarious, granted I'm a little bit biased, because I was one of the writers on it. But I mean, all these shows that should have been pushed, they hide behind reruns of something, for example. You don't get to decide when, if you get picked up, you don't get to decide where your new show goes. These executives are making bad decisions after bad decisions. They debut a new show, but they're putting it after reruns of this old show.

Starting point is 01:04:45 And so by putting you in a position, they're already deciding that you're going to be canceled because they're gonna go your viewerships down. Meanwhile, you could put a shitty show after, right after a good show. And they get picked up because the people are already there. Your TV was on the channel. So it's harder to turn the channel

Starting point is 01:05:03 than it is to put it on. We talked about this during dinner with Joe about Disney, if you remember when a name came up, he's like, I know this person, I'm not gonna mention who it was, but I know this person, I know this person. So by the way, somebody just commented in the comment section,

Starting point is 01:05:17 so they made me take a look at this, Acman loses more than $430 million in one day because of Netflix. What? So this is when it gets scary because people like this start calling. When Carl Icon lost money with AIG, do you know what Carl Icon did within two months? Every day he bullied the CEO until they had to, they had to fire the CEO and the CEO had to step down.

Starting point is 01:05:41 Guys like this have so much power where they're making these are the guys you don't want to piss off. Like, you know how in Russia they talk about Putin and so who should Putin worry about and what do they say? The family, the oligarchs, you know, the, the, these oligarchs that is, if they say anything, you don't want, this is oligarch, is who it is. Ackman is part of oligarch. If you, if you're looking at him from that standpoint, but you know, you said something and And it made me think about this. I've been processing the understanding of, the meaning of fear in a different way.

Starting point is 01:06:10 There's certain words in my life, I wanna have a better understanding of what this word means. It's always curious about the word lazy. Like, why are we lazy? And then, you know, more I did, I realized, okay, boredom stems, you know, from laziness. If somebody gives a boring joke,

Starting point is 01:06:24 you're gonna become lazy and your body gets tired. Great, I wanna know what it means to be lazy. But fear is so confusing, because we've been campaigned with the shirt that we all wore as kids that said what, no fear. I don't know if fear. Bullshit, I'm probably extremely afraid. Let me explain to you what I meant by this.

Starting point is 01:06:48 So somebody just asked me the question explaining, I'm like, let me tell you when I go back and actually pause, you know how we all say the answer because the right thing to say, and like, is that really who I was? We think, I'm a pretty scared guy. And what do you mean by that? I was so afraid of my dad dying and my kids

Starting point is 01:07:03 never meeting him because I never met my grandma. My never met my grandpa. You have no idea how scared I was so afraid of my dad dying and my kids never meeting him because I never met my grandma. My never my grandpa. You have no idea how scared I was at that. I would have nightmares in the middle of the night. It's not fear of oh my god, I feared this, but it was such a fear that created such a sense of urgency for me to get to work because Now that fear is gone because all my kids know him so well and they love him. They love their grandpa. Yeah, that fear is gone because all my kids know him so well and they love them. They love their grandpa. Yeah. That fear is gone. Now the next fear is, I don't want to walk my daughter down the aisle and she marries a schmuck moment given a mom given a rub and I'm like, you're an idiot and she chose to marry you because daddy made some bad choices.

Starting point is 01:07:37 And I was lazy and now I have to deal with a moron like you. I wanted to choose to marry a moron because she chose to marry a moron. Not choose to marry a moron because he makes 60 grand year and he's going to supply. I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you, I wonder if you You have to be reminded you need to get scared again. You need to play scared. Netflix is not playing scared. The same one with Disney. What does Disney do? Disney comes out and they say what? Well, you know, 50% of the characters we do are going to be part of the LGBT. Really?

Starting point is 01:08:14 So you mean to tell me 50% America's part of LGBTQ community? That's what it is. That's what we're going to do. In the stock six months we talked about this, it drops 25% while during that time the market only dropped 0.6%. And then what happens this week? Here's what happens this week with Disney. Disney goes to Florida and the Santas

Starting point is 01:08:33 who is on BOSS, in Bullion, Bollion, does the following. Disney to lose special tax status in Florida. Amit, don't say gay, clash, the Boston Globe. Disney usually gets whatever it wants in Florida. Amit, don't say gay, clash, the Boston Globe. This usually gets whatever it wants in Florida. That era ended Thursday when the Florida House voted to revoke Disney World's designation as a special tax district.

Starting point is 01:08:56 A privilege that Disney has held for 55 years, effectively allowing the company to self-govern. It's 25,000 acre theme park complex de Florida Senate voted Wednesday to eliminate the special zone which is called the reedy creek improve in district having cleared the way to this outcome with our formal proclamation governor de Santas will almost certainly make the measures official by adding his signature. It would take effect in June of next year, the swift effort to dissolve really creek has been widely seen

Starting point is 01:09:28 as a brazen retaliation after Disney's pos political donations in the state and condemned in the education law that opponents call, don't say gay. You know what this reminds me of the following? Let me tell you what happens. Years ago, Elron Hubbard was able to get through his lawyers to get Scientology to get the tax status as a religion.

Starting point is 01:09:48 When that happened, it was a fantastic situation for them because they can take all the money they want and guess what, you know, pay any taxes. When I was in LA, our office was in Woodland Hills. We moved it to Burbank, Glendale. You know why? Because Hollywood has a contract with California that they have certain tax advantages in California. To show you what this means, this is like the government,

Starting point is 01:10:10 all of a sudden saying, Scientology is not a religion, you're a business, you're getting taxed. This is like the state of California telling Hollywood, screw you, you no longer have those tax benefits. That's how big of a thing just happened to Disney just yesterday. Yep. And it's breaking news that he just signed the bill. I love it. It's how big of a thing just happened to Disney just yesterday.

Starting point is 01:10:25 Yep. And it's breaking news that he just signed the bill. I love it. He's like fantastic. And that was quick. And I still live in LA, but you know, just for everybody knows, I'm moving to Florida, ASAP, and it's not a joke. I'm serious. It's insane how the view of California that don't say gay bill, because that's what people think the bills actually called the word gay is not in the bill at all It's like a education something what pissing me off the most It's not even the bill because basically it's saying kindergarten through I think third grade. Yeah, nothing about sex Nothing about you the kids at in kindergarten. You're learning you're digging and you're like you're a boy

Starting point is 01:11:01 You're that doesn't bother me. You know piss me me off the most. Are the teachers that were going online and recording going, what the, we wanna teach that, like, teachers that were furious because now they can't teach sex and stuff to kind of guarding kids. Like the anger of, leave us alone. We still wanna do this. And it's just, it's like, you sound disgusting.

Starting point is 01:11:20 Like you understand what you're sounding like. But the point is the following. Here's the point. You have no idea how excited I am right now. Let me tell you why I'm so excited right now. Let me tell you why I'm so excited right now. I said this to Jose and I were exchanging texts. Yesterday was just been a special last four days.

Starting point is 01:11:39 I am so excited because in life, here's how this works. You go to a bar, you get into a fight, say you're a tough guy and you push your weight around, you beat one guy up. No, no, you beat another guy up. You beat another guy. So after a month or two months or three months, you beat everybody up and you're the tough guy that bar. There's one guy that's sitting in the corner quietly. He's saying shit. Yeah. And then one day, you pick on him. It's over. And you pick on that guy and then you realize,

Starting point is 01:12:09 you're officially not the toughest guy in the world. You're gonna get your ass handed to you. He's gonna publicly embarrass you. I was in the army and we in our boot camp, we were all fighting. And it was a circle and that's how we'd get rid of our testosterone. We're fighting.

Starting point is 01:12:24 So I'm fighting and I have no cloud of fight. I've never done MMA, nothing. I'm not gonna take on nothing. Just fight. I'm just, so my nose has been broken one too many times. So I'm fighting. I'm fighting. I feel so good.

Starting point is 01:12:37 I'm like, oh, look at me too. Who I am. So the reputation I got, right? A guy shows up in the circle. There's 200 guys that are wanting to fight and one by one bomb Guys shows up is five six five seven. Yeah, maybe 130 pounds. He says do you mind? I said, what do you mean? I'd love to fight you Great. I said, I don't want to hurt you. Yeah, of course

Starting point is 01:12:58 And this is before UFC so you didn't know who knew how to fight back and nowadays you don't want to fight because anybody knows how to fight If they say do you mind, you. You mind. It's the scariest shit. What do I hear? What do you say? 200 people. Please show me this.

Starting point is 01:13:14 But you got no, Felix can't fight anybody. Felix just talks shit. And we have to fight for Felix. This guy comes and he says, can I fight you? We fight. Let me take two. What if this is it? he no no he was a He was a black God 18 year black kid like me and he was from Florida or Ohio Yeah, and I say in all of them I'm on the floor like dude what day so what does it matter with you? He says I'm the Florida state champion in high school. Why don't you tell me some I thought it would have run the surprise

Starting point is 01:13:41 Why don't you tell me somewhere? This is why I thought it would've ruined the surprise. So as a man, we subscribe and we get good friends. What can I get you? So the point is the following, in life, you're eventually gonna realize who's out there. Today the market is starting to tell you, stop bullying us. People are waking up.

Starting point is 01:13:58 Elon Musk is fed up and he's done with these bullies and now he's bullying bullies. Guys like Rogan are bullying bullies. Guys like Bill Mar are sick of it. Think about Bill Mar is sick. Who's Bill Mar? Are you, I sent something to John Stewart two days ago because his show, did you guys hear about John Stewart's show?

Starting point is 01:14:17 Yeah, he's really, what if I said to John Stewart on Twitter, John Stewart's show comes out and they, he only have 40,000 listeners, and he sends a tweet. And he sends a tweet. He sent right there. Read his tweet. He says, holy shit. Just think how bad actually click on his tweet and then go back because you have to see what he's tweeting. Holy shit. Just think how bad it'll get in season two. And they opt our episode order WTF right and it's the he gets 40,000 viewers. And then here's what I said, John, you want it the best to ever do it if not to go. However, here's some feedback if you're open to it.

Starting point is 01:14:48 Carry on if you're not. I feel you have a unique voice. I feel the market is filled with those on the left and the right who are 100% loyal to their party and not America. Click on it so I can read the rest of it. Yeah, click on it and go below it. I said, I feel 20% of the market

Starting point is 01:15:02 who is in the middle is sick of it. The 40% on the left or the right who doesn't think the other side gets anything right. We both know that's not true and some are arrogant to believe that. Take a comedian and a entertainer like yourself, Russell Brand, Joe Rogan, Bill Marr, Dave Chappelle and a few others who use comedy to take shots at people on both sides of the aisle. What gets annoying is when they, you only pick on one side and play politics, loyal to the people whose birthday parties and functions you attend.

Starting point is 01:15:30 I believe you have an opportunity to help United America. Bill Maure has gained new audience because he's calling out his own side. You hesitate to do that for some reason. It could be fear or comfort zone or something else, not sure. You were the goat of the original political satire

Starting point is 01:15:45 and the interviews. You cornered people, Stephen Cobair tried to be you, but he missed a mark. Bill Maher has gained a new ton of followers because he's shown he can reason, he can call out BS. So much as you may not like this message, but maybe taking a bit of responsibility and owning up to it could change the game,

Starting point is 01:16:02 not selling out, stay court to your values and principles But strengthen them by seeing flaws in them. They may not be a hundred percent right again carry on if this was a waste of your time to read That was perfect. There you go. I see some of these guys and I say dude Maybe you're wrong. Yeah, and guys like him only have 40,000 five 40,000 listeners. Yeah, how to help? Do you realize? Rogan Rogan has if we do them at 40,000 times sentence 400,000 times 100 is 4 million.

Starting point is 01:16:30 Rogan has 300 times more listeners than John Stewart. Yep. Not three times, folks. 300 times more than John Stewart. Just because you're worried about those parties you're not gonna go. 100%. It's pathetic to me if you ask. How much do you think John Stewart, just because you're worried about those parties you're not gonna go. 100%. It's pathetic to me, if you ask.

Starting point is 01:16:46 How much do you think John Stewart is kicking himself or giving up the daily show for whatever this thing is right now? I don't even know what the hell that is, but even who's the Noah guy? I mean, Trevor Noah. Barely, barely talks shit. Like I think I saw one clip where he was actually like, you know, Joe Biden's, you know, messing up and hope Trump,

Starting point is 01:17:03 I can't believe he actually said it, but like you said, too Patrick, when I see Bill Marnom, I'm like, whoa, is he shifting at one of my, my cousin Mike was like, I think he's shifting because he knows nobody wants to listen to your bullshit. A lot of people are right. Wait a minute. Have you, have you, have any of your friends from, uh, the right gone closer to the left? Anybody right of center going far left like I got.

Starting point is 01:17:25 I got it. Is there somebody who really? No, no, no, no. Listen to what he said. I agree with him. People who were on the far right who have gone a little bit more left. Yes, I agree. He's not saying they went from right to left.

Starting point is 01:17:37 He's saying you were far far right and let's just say you were right of mega. And you're kind of like, yeah, I'm kind of gonna be a little bit more here. And I'm gonna be, I don't know, pick a name. I'm gonna be more like the Santas. Or I'm gonna be more like this. So I have seen that happen where people are making that shift. But a lot of people who were on the far left

Starting point is 01:17:56 have gone to the left. Oh yeah. And now in the centers, like the right. Yeah. That's the part. I'm almost seeing like, if this is the pendulum, some people are going and they're kind of going here. And it cracks me up. People are trying to, I saw something the other day. They had, I can't even remember the article,

Starting point is 01:18:11 but they had Rogan's face on with Ann Colter and Bessantis and Trump and something. And I'm literally, these people... Right wing. Yeah. Easy. Like, he is an LA liberal. I mean, that's what he was, at least. You know what I mean? Like, it's all, it's all in San Diego. It is, yeah, that one, MSNBC. Yeah, look, they have a man with these people because he's a right-wing hate monger.

Starting point is 01:18:36 He's what they're saying there. Meanwhile, he had Bernie Sanders. I can't believe they're washing this. Yeah, they canceled lives of TikToks. Yeah, they canceled it. Let me remind you, this is the guy that endorsed Bernie Sanders for president of the United States.

Starting point is 01:18:49 And now he's a right winger because he's big because he has the most successful show. And Adam, lives of TikTok is just, it's real, that's real. That's real. We make videos themselves. Yeah, recreating teachers that are speaking in front of a camera in their own house or their office.

Starting point is 01:19:07 And she's just repulsing it and they canceled her. Is that insane? And then the same girl that wrote this article went out on CNBC and cried. Right. Cried on air because she had such a hard time because people were doxing her. Yeah, and coming and there were mobs.

Starting point is 01:19:23 And what does she do? She goes to this girl's house, right? To her family's house, starts banging on the door, and then proceeded to dox her and reveal her identity. Yep. And the girl who ran the account is now in hiding. Yeah, she put her address in it. She did exactly what that's faking behind the phone.

Starting point is 01:19:39 But I'm trying to say to you, this doesn't work, man. No. You can't pull it for too long. Somebody really shows up, and then you have to really straighten up your act. Every kid learns this. Some learn it at a young age. Some learn it at a teenage age,

Starting point is 01:19:53 but every kid learns some companies that take some a while to learn it. We start off as a small insurance company. We have 60 agents, and we grew now. We have licensed 35,000 agents, 20,000 active agents, and we've grown. But every day I'm still you know there's there's got to be that fear of even though you got this it's market

Starting point is 01:20:09 Yeah, it's competition can be arrogant about it a lot of these guys are getting arrogant about it But did you see Jen Sackie crying? Yeah, yeah, I did she was crying. She was crying because of the go ahead Tell it she was crying Because of the the Santas the law crying because of the the Sanchez, the law being put into thing where that you can't teach. She's thinking it's the most messed up thing that you can't teach. She's again, she's saying that it's anti, you know, anti-gay.

Starting point is 01:20:35 And she says, how can you do this to kids who are going through this and if they want to be trans, you have to let them be. And then she starts crying says, you don't know how much this hurts me. And I'm like, I'm watching. I'm like, wait, what? My buddy Tim Dillon had the best take on that. I can't remember the exact tweet,

Starting point is 01:20:50 but it was basically like, he quoted one of these teachers that was like, how am I not supposed to talk? If I tell my students that I had a wonderful weekend with my gay lover, like, why would I not be allowed to do that? And Tim Dillon goes, you know, that's cool and all, but my, everyone knows that all the best teachers are like this, mysterious, mysterious figures. You didn't know anything about them. They came in with a ratty jacket and a ratty hair and taught you actually learn shit. They've never talked about their personal lives.

Starting point is 01:21:25 You didn't know what, Kari drove, you didn't know what. No fair, you lived. And you know his first name, right? Right, first of all. Mrs. Williams, she's in, she's out, boom. Yeah, and then what was the kicker to that? But that's it, it was just that, you know, sometimes his takes are more brilliant than they are,

Starting point is 01:21:40 you know, hysterical, but that was it. It's like it really got me to thinking like, yeah, what are we talking about here? Why would you need, you know hysterical, but that was it. It's like it really got me to thinking like, yeah, what are we talking about here? Why would you need, you know, the personal lives of your teacher on any level, not to mention, I mean, it's just ridiculous. I don't know about you guys, Patrick, the only time I learned about sex as a child,

Starting point is 01:21:57 and I remembered the room, I forgot how young I was, it was just a slideshow quick of the male body parts, the female body parts, it was awkward, everybody was kind of giggling, that was it was just a slide show quick of the male body parts the female body parts. It was awkward. Everybody was kind of you know giggling That was it. Well, it was up to our parents, but you know middle east of parents. There's no birds and bees It's just like you better figure it out on your own But it was one day in class why why the anger it's what bothers me is the anger of why can't we teach them what we want It's like bro relax let the parents teach their kids about sex and honey. There's, you know, think about kindergarten,

Starting point is 01:22:27 you know, confusing it is just to be kindergarten. Like, there are kids trying to be like, you're a boy, but you could be a girl, but you could change it on Thursday. It's too much information for a child, but wait, wait down the road. They're gonna trust me. They're gonna see it. If they're watching Netflix, I'm expecting,

Starting point is 01:22:41 they're gonna see it when they get older, you know what I mean? Yeah, the kids used to figure it out on their own. When they, when you saw the picture of the male genitalia, either you felt something in your belly, or you didn't, or when you saw the female genitalia, you're like, ooh, something about that I like. That's where you didn't. Yeah, there wasn't no, they weren't like,

Starting point is 01:22:59 here's what to do with this. Yeah, exactly. Let me, let me, you can get rid of yours. I'm gonna throw you guys a completely different angle here with that. I actually really enjoy that these people are trying to force these beliefs down people's throat because what's happening right now,

Starting point is 01:23:13 I'm not saying whether you're on the left or on the right, is that at the end of the day, common sense is prevailing. Of course. And at the end of the day, people are like, I don't know about this bro. Like I don't, why is it like any, I don't care what side you're on, any time you just like, what don't know about this bro. Like I don't, why is it, like any, I don't care. What side you're on anytime you just like, what's going on?

Starting point is 01:23:29 I'm like, look, whatever that look, I just like, what that thing? It's not adding up. It's not making sense. And I, and, and, and, and whether you were on the, on the left and you didn't see what, you saw what Trump was doing. You're like, I don't know about this.

Starting point is 01:23:43 Or you're on the right and you're, or just a common sense person. And you're seeing this don't say gay stuff and this Disney stuff and then, and you're't see what you saw what Trump was doing. You're like, I don't know about this, or you're on the right, and you're just a common sense person, and you're seeing this don't say gay stuff, and this Disney stuff, and you're just like, ah, you're just a losing proposition. At the end of the day, common sense is what people yearn for, and grit what they gravitate to.

Starting point is 01:23:59 And if you're on the side of like pandering to your point, Tony, of to like a small segment of society, you're gonna fucking lose. Yeah, but it just boggles my mind how, and I'm not right, I'm not left, I'm just in the middle, how this side, this presidency, this administration, they had talked all that trash, Trump's gone, right?

Starting point is 01:24:19 They had all this time to at least pick somebody, they went with Joe Biden, whatever, he's a familiar face, 81 million votes, I still can't believe it. You had all this time to make a stand and change and really make a difference. What have they done? And I hate when people just say infrastructure. I don't care about infrastructure.

Starting point is 01:24:34 Everything is going wrong. Nothing is going right. You had all this time you talked all this shit about Trump. What are you guys doing? And nothing. And they're just, what shit like this? Like the White House, Gen, Jen Psaki is furious and crying because it's not cool not to teach these kids about sex

Starting point is 01:24:49 and gender. But they're gonna pay the price for this. I mean, there's your seeing, I mean, I'll see it. Let me tell you. Let me tell you what's gonna happen. Let me tell you, okay. This is so ridiculous. How idiotic they are when it comes on to strategy.

Starting point is 01:25:01 There's two different ways. What's the saying? Would you rather win the battle or the war? The war. Okay, these guys are all winning battles. Let me explain. The more they do this, okay, the more they play this game

Starting point is 01:25:13 and pushing whatever down kids throw, every pastor in church right now is gonna be using that message and grow attendance. Because here's how pastors going to use it. They're going to say, how many of you are sending your kiss to public school. If you're sending your kiss to public school and you're worried about the values and the principles,

Starting point is 01:25:34 there's never been a more important time to plug your kids into a church. Because the school's not going to do it. So their stupid ideas and philosophies is going to help the organization they least want to know exactly and number two All this bullshit they're feeding a parent who's sitting there who was okay doing what they were doing other saying now My kids are gonna go to a Christian private school or private school that's Catholic or private school That's whatever that's teaching strong values and principles

Starting point is 01:26:01 I'll bust my ass to make that additional $1,000 to send them to private schools. Private schools are gonna go up, public school are gonna get their asses handed to them. Home school is gonna go up. They don't realize how strategy and war works. It doesn't work the way they're doing it. They're idiots. I'm telling you right now, they're idiots.

Starting point is 01:26:19 I'm not seeing it. Short term, they will win. Look what the Santa's, how do you think this, these board is sitting right now sitting same guys 50 since 19 So for 50 fibers we've not paid any taxes. Yeah, that held you guys just do it. We were woke by the way Do you know how much money that is that's insane? Do you know how much money that is? You're not talking about like a couple million you talking real money billions. That's called stupid It's what it's called dumb stupid. Yeah,, you made certain things you said that is stupid

Starting point is 01:26:46 and you had freedom and now you don't. Now you're paying a price for it. By the way, what did they say the other day? They're gonna stop calling kids boys and girls. Well, they're gonna only call kids dreamers and fairy bells or whatever the hell that is. And it's boys and girls. And I think, Tony, I wanna know what you guys

Starting point is 01:27:02 on this opinion, I think, personally, that whole, she, I want to know what you guys on this opinion. I think, personally, that whole, she, he, the them, that started because the generation, I think one or two after me, hitting your kids became taboo because you know this, if I went to my father and he's like, Vinnie, come here and I was like, excuse me, dad, as a middle eastern father and I went, it's he, them, they, or whatever,

Starting point is 01:27:19 he would be like, they are moving the fuck out of this house today. Like, it's, I'm not saying, beating your kids, but that generation where you can't even talk, or be like, listen, relax, chill. Cause now it's just free fallin'. I saw somebody that they, they, it was the, on a certain day,

Starting point is 01:27:35 it was the them she, and I'm like, if you think I'm gonna fucking take the time to be like, what's today, and what are you, I can't bro, that's why I'm moving out of California. I have two emotions right now. A ton of excitement and confidence and a ton of fear, which combined it together produces urgency is what it produces.

Starting point is 01:27:52 Beautiful. And I'm good with that. I want whatever that produces. Elon Musk, Twitter investment could be bad news for free speech. You guys saw this on Wapoha, right? Yeah. Just real quick, for your daily dose of irony, right?

Starting point is 01:28:02 What does that first line say? Elon Musk just bought a $3 billion stake in Twitter because when you're the world's richest human, you can toss billions around like that. Who the fuck owns the Washington Post? Yeah, Beth Baisle. Just Baisle. The second richest person in the world.

Starting point is 01:28:18 You can never undercut it. Yeah, I see. You've been waiting for this moment, it's just amazing. It's freaking crazy. I would check this out. Let me take the crazy. How many guys know how the Poison Pill works? You know the Poison Pill, everybody's saying,

Starting point is 01:28:31 well, they're gonna use the Poison Pill. You've heard of Poison Pill. But do you know what that actually means? No, I love you, it's fun. So Tom and I were talking about this and Tom made a very good point about the Poison Pill. Here's how Poison Pill works. So they're sitting there, they're saying,

Starting point is 01:28:44 like it's a defensive strategy by a target from to prevent or discourage a potential hostile take over by a acquiring a company, okay? So they want to prevent a musk from taking over Twitter. Now, Twitter stock is $40 some dollars, $42 when musk says I'll buy it for $52. It's like a number like that that you're saying, right? So if you had a million

Starting point is 01:29:07 dollars of Twitter stock, somebody offered to buy it for 20% higher today and it's not worth it. And that didn't happen. How much did it cost you? $200,000, right? So the boards using a poison pill to not allow Musk to buy it. Well, let's see what happens. Say they succeed and they don't let Musk buy it. Musk is going to sell his 9.2% that he originally bought from Twitter. Twitter stock from $42, what is it gonna drop to? To $30 to $25.

Starting point is 01:29:40 Now watch this. If Twitter stock drops from $42, he offered 52. If it drops from $42 to $25, do you know what happens to the board? The board gets a massive, massive lawsuits from shareholders. Do you know why?

Starting point is 01:29:57 Because every board's responsibility is who? Shareholders, your responsible for shareholders. To this poison pill is gonna back far on Twitter again They're playing they're trying to win the battle which they will they could and muskis playing the war Exactly he's gonna win the war they have no clue what they're pretty much doing is the following here's what they're doing They're gonna get their assets handed to them. Then they're going to get fired. Then they're going to save Elon Musk $20 billion, because Elon's going to buy it for $20 billion less than he is today. You may as well take that money today and let the sky do his thing.

Starting point is 01:30:32 So even this poison pill strategy is going to be one of the most publicly embarrassing situations for them. So this is why you trust capitals, and then you know that eventually when you bully people Yeah, there's gonna be people showing up that bully the bully and Patrick and all this all this for him to make the platform Some place where you everybody can have their opinion because you guys all know this one side is winning I don't care what anybody says. They're winning that that canceling and your voice cannot be brought How many things were taken down just because you know, you know Fact checkers and some of the fact checkers like the guy from Reuters the owner of Reuters sits on the board of Pfizer. So you know, I mean it's this isn't that like a

Starting point is 01:31:14 Conflict of interest when you're on the board of fact checking shit that people like try to ask questions about Pfizer. That's You know, I mean it's way too much man. Just wait. By by the way did you see what Dorsey said about Brian stelter can you pull up that tweet reliable sources not I don't know you guys saw what Dorsey said about Brian stelter so so can you make that bigger so I can read that so so Brian stelter says Tucker Carlson always selling the same thing he is selling doubt and in Jack responds a minute later and you all are selling hope. Oh God That's hilarious. That's from Jack Wow, then everybody says shit Jack is defending Tucker and he continues not defending a thing I'm holding up a mirror is what he says right? So think about for Jack to say that to Brian stelter

Starting point is 01:32:02 Yeah, I mean Jack is supposed to be part of that camp. So then we all know what happened with CNN Plus. Let me read some of these statistics to you folks. Here's what happened with CNN Plus. CNN Plus will shut down April 30th, just one month after launch, okay? This is a $300 million investment that was lost. Warner Brothers Discovery has decided to shut down CNN Plus

Starting point is 01:32:24 just weeks after it's launched. This is not a decision about quality. We appreciate all the work, ambition and creativity that went into building CNN plus an organization with Terrific Talent and compelling programming right. Chris Lake, chairman and CEO of CNN World By Said, but our customers and CNN will be best served with the same simpler streaming choice. Warner Media launched to standalone new service, less than a month ago on March 29th, garden less than 10,000 active viewers in two weeks after it's launched, the company said,

Starting point is 01:32:53 customers will receive pro-rated refance on subscription, thank God, but $300 million was lost with the launch. And they brought Chris Wallace from Fox. Imagine he doesn't have a job right now. And the pissed off has, he has to be. He was a Fox for 20 years. And he left for CNN plus.

Starting point is 01:33:08 Yeah. And did you see any of the content? They had like Don Lemon cooking with his mom on FaceTime. And there was no Wi-Fi. So you couldn't even see her. Who's a white hair guy? Anderson Cooper. Anderson Cooper was in his kitchen.

Starting point is 01:33:20 And he's like, I'm going to do this segment, but my kids sleep like, it was just horrible. Kim Kardashian marriage to former basketball player, Chris on for 72 days, last of two and a half days. You're messing with me, buddy. This is what you're doing. You know what? That's hilarious.

Starting point is 01:33:34 Did you, did you, did you, did you, did you show it? Like, uh, does, John, do you have that up or no? $300 million CNM plus. Lost this, down a lemon. First of all, is there anybody more boring than that? I hate, he's so boring. Yeah. Have you ever tried listening to him? I, I,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,? So for a lot of hell, yeah, I love it. Yeah, me too. Texas is on the plate, but what do you mean me too? I know. I know I love that this these are my places. I met the governor. I met

Starting point is 01:34:11 Ron DeSantis last Saturday at the UFC. Oh great. He wanted him and Rogan met during in like the trail of it. There was like a great there's like a break between the ESPN one the part and the when they switch over to paper viewing, we had like seven minutes. And so Rogan and me and his crew, Cam Hayes and all these people, we jetted to this green room that they had cornered off with DeSantis and his entire like 40 person.

Starting point is 01:34:39 Oh, I think they came with them. Was it for, was it it? Yeah, I'm sure it was like the Florida Secret Service whenever they got a protectors guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Question about it for yeah was like the Florida Secret Service right there got a lot of by yeah any way and um coolest guy and literally pitched he's like you guys need to move to Florida whenever you guys are done with your Texas when that when when stuff hits the

Starting point is 01:34:59 this offense yeah we'll be waiting for you really try to recruit you guys yeah love that love it so did we by the way what's more welcoming than come Yeah, we'll be waiting for you Did he really try to recruit you guys? Yeah, yeah Love it. Absolutely. So did we by the way, what's more welcoming than come come stay at my house? Who's the who's your who's your governor Abbott? Yeah, dude. How boss is that guy? He took all the buses of all the Illegal like he must them to DC How are they arriving today? There's people with umbrellas trying to

Starting point is 01:35:23 You know, you see when they were taking selfies of like, those cap it was fucking brilliant. What was the Sanchez's sales pitch? You said you had seven minutes with him. No, I was it. That was just when you moved into Florida. Yeah, we want you here. And I go, I said, I love the way that you

Starting point is 01:35:39 handled the pandemic, man. It's awesome. And he goes, yeah, who would I guess that you give the people the choice to do what they want to do would work in America? Really? The way he said it, I mean, I fell in love with this guy for the rest of our lives.

Starting point is 01:35:53 We'll get any vote that he ever runs for from me. That's it, common sense. And for some reason, that's what we seem to be like lacking nowadays, right? There's a bunch of weird shit happening. For example, anybody that has any common sense, at all, and that guy is just common sense, he's going to walk into the White House.

Starting point is 01:36:14 He's going to stroll in without it downing. Well, he's got to win the Republican, probably. You don't think he would, there's some guy, there's some orange man looming over the Republican party right now. Let me say, let me say, I was gonna say, I would rather have, and this person, I would rather have the Santas,

Starting point is 01:36:32 because do Trump lover me, it's a little too much, and people, and, and, my dude, they're gonna have to dig up, they're on the Santas, what, what are you gonna, what collusion, what all that, what are you gonna do, he's, he's a golden child, for he's the one.

Starting point is 01:36:46 By the way, but you gotta be very careful on how you sell him because if you sell him as the golden flawless, everybody has shit. Some's gonna come out on the guy. And market has to be ready. There is, the Sanctus has got stuff in the closet. So if you just don't get it on, I don't know if it's gonna be as. There is the Sanctis has got stuff in the closet. So if you don't get it to and I don't know if it's going to be as legendary as a stormy and Karen McDougal type of stuff

Starting point is 01:37:11 because I got to get to hold it from level. But here's what just happened. I had a conversation with it. I can't tell you but I had a conversation. Give on. You give me the ooze in the ass. If Trump runs, the centrist is not running. I mean, it's less than a 5% chance he's running. If Trump goes. If Trump goes, the centrist is not running at all. Is the word in the street that Trump is going? 99% he's running.

Starting point is 01:37:41 Of course he is. Because he's not going to be the vice president. So that means he's going to wait till 2028, not 2024. So this is what that means. So some people that are so my god, this is if anybody's ever thought about moving to Florida, that means the census is going to be the governor until 2028. So that's a very big insurance policy for anybody that is thinking about moon of Florida because by 2028 that gives them six more years to find somebody to replace him

Starting point is 01:38:08 because that's the key. You got also find somebody to replace him. But if Trump runs, which there's a 99% chance he's running, he's not going to be running. But there's a problem with him waiting that long. Right now he's hot. He's I mean, I was hot. We talked about it. of course we agree, but I'm just telling you, he does not want to go face off because he knows Trump's gonna talk shit and he's going to talk. Cut, you got the question? The Santa's not gonna just sit there and talk to you.

Starting point is 01:38:33 Cut your talk, you got it. Do you think if Trump was, Trump won and Trump was still in this woke, I mean, because the old movement's been going, but all the stuff that they're, they've been trying to pull and all that stuff, would it be happening? Or it would not, or it would be. I mean, he would be bodying these people on Twitter and out in public speeches.

Starting point is 01:38:50 I think people forget exactly how funny. Yeah, hilarious. He was the funniest one. I mean, and it's like, he, again, he's another guy that love him or hate him. I mean, was calling out this stuff before everybody. I mean, he's literally not on Twitter anymore. Yeah, is that crazy?

Starting point is 01:39:06 But there's people that are like on ISIS and shit that's looking tweet. It's fucking, yeah, Vladimir Putin's on Twitter. 100% in Donald Trumpism. Yeah, 100% and so there's a reason for that. That's the one that doesn't want him talking about all of this stuff that is their agenda. Period.

Starting point is 01:39:24 So, I mean, that's everything. That's why this Elon Musk thing is an actual thing, buying Twitter, because of that. It's the blatant thing that he's going to do. It's obvious, it's all about free speech. So how could he keep a former president banned? It's possible. What's the chances that if Musk succeeds

Starting point is 01:39:44 and this poison pill doesn't work, that Trump gets on oh, I think a hundred percent. Okay. Yeah, I think that's the statement He's going to show exactly how he's going to show exactly how free free speech. Do you realize here's the following thing if he buys Twitter at 52 bucks And he lets Trump on Twitter stock will go to 200 percent. By the way, it's just a prediction.

Starting point is 01:40:08 Not inside of a formation. I'm just telling you. Brilliant. It's going to work. He buys 52 bucks. His underpriced would must go and get it. I think Twitter stock has the ability from 52 to even 10x within a five year period. So that's just a possibility of what could happen.

Starting point is 01:40:26 I mean, I agree, look at how much they were clothing Twitter. Twitter was the news for those four years. Here's what Trump said today. It was them reporting about Twitter. Trump will be back on tweeting 40 times a day. Oh my God. Yeah, the greatest troll of all time

Starting point is 01:40:41 will be back on again is to go. By the way, podcast, how hard is it to succeed in a podcast game? It's podcast game a hard game. Would you say podcast game is a hard game? If you love the podcast that you're doing, then it's not. If you corner yourself and, right? If you corner yourself and is something that my friends always

Starting point is 01:41:02 are like, I am Tony, I'm thinking about starting a podcast. I think I'm gonna do, you know, cooking with comedians or whatever. You know, that's not even an example, but I'm just saying like, if you corner yourself into any type of pocket, I think it becomes miserable. You know, I look, I, you know, I'm friends with Joe and I see what he's doing and And not only is he killing it, but he gets to interview whoever he wants

Starting point is 01:41:29 and talk about whatever he wants for as long as he wants to talk about that full control. And people are into it, obviously. His listenership keeps going up every time they try to cancel him, he gets more listeners, more viewers. It's, it's, you know. Well, let me ask you a question. I'm gonna have to open.

Starting point is 01:41:46 He didn't paint himself in a corner. Any Rogan episode, he could be talking to a fighter, he could be talking to a comedian, he could be talking to a politician. Collegiate, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. But imagine if let's just say a person,

Starting point is 01:41:57 let's make this person up. Let's say there's a person out there who is very well spoken. He's got 132 million followers on Twitter. Okay. Let's say he even becomes a two-term president. And then let's say he starts a podcast with another guy whose name is Bruce, who's a very famous singer. And a sign a $25 million podcast with Spotify. Okay. A year later, Spotify drops them. Can you see that happening with somebody that big?

Starting point is 01:42:28 I mean, that's pretty crazy for that to happen, but that's what just happened to Barack Obama, why Spotify dropped its deal with Barack and Michelle Obama. Tyler, can you go up so I can read this entire article because this is almost unbelievable. Make it a little bit bigger so we can read this. The Obama's are searching for a new home for their podcast after Spotify reportedly declined to offer the former first

Starting point is 01:42:47 couple a new contract because they didn't make enough personal appearances on the streaming services. Brock and Michelle Obama are reportedly in talks with several companies including Amazon, Audible and IHard Media on Deal that will likely be worth tens of millions of dollars according to Bloomberg News. The ex-president former first lady who co-owned the production company Higher Ground will reportedly decide on their podcasting platform

Starting point is 01:43:06 of their choice, sometime within the next few weeks. Higher Ground is set to be in seeking an agreement that would allow it to release shows on several platforms simultaneously. One of the sticking points is in negotiations with Spotify and the Swedish company, an instance in insistence on an exclusive licensing deal which they didn't want them to give,

Starting point is 01:43:26 because they want to syndicate it amongst everybody. Even if the Obama's produced podcasts for another company, those shows will, in all likelihood, make their way to Spotify anyways. Streaming services want to, the Obama's to make more frequently appearances themselves in order to generate more. Buzz for the company, but the former first lady

Starting point is 01:43:44 is reportedly willing to commit to no more. BuzzFoodA company, but the former first lady, it was reportedly willing to come into, no more than eight episode programs. Higher ground was paid $25 million after signing with Spotify in 2019. So only eight episodes is what they want. Spotify is moving on. Power move, is this a smart move on Spotify to drop them a president who has got a very strong audience?

Starting point is 01:44:06 His wife wrote a book that sold 30 something million copies, you know, whatever the number was, that she made 36 million dollars. Would you say this was a good move on Spotify or a bad move on Spotify? I think a good move. Tell me why. Yeah, because Spotify cares about actual listenership and subscriptions based on what they're paying for. And even though we have a lot of Twitter followers and she might sell a lot of books, he have to bring them to the podcast world, you know what I mean? So, you know, Rogan's signing with Spotify and having a built-in audience of a ton of podcast listeners is different and much much much more valuable

Starting point is 01:44:47 than having a politician who gave many public speeches and has Twitter followers like to bad like a lot of people a lot of people have a lot of Twitter followers a lot of comedians and they and they suck at selling out shows they can't fill a venue. Yeah, and they tweet all the time and they work on their following and they post videos and all this stuff. But if you suck live, you suck live and they're not going to get any better at podcasting doing eight episodes every year, we know this, right? You naturally get better at what you do.

Starting point is 01:45:17 They don't want to do it. They're literally clearly there for the payday. Yeah, for sure. And so, yeah, what they should be doing is just episodes for free and putting it out everywhere anyway. I mean, if they wanted to get good at that thing, but they're not gonna get good. So if they did, if he did podcasts, him and Michelle did podcasts twice a week,

Starting point is 01:45:37 and they went one year straight. Do you think that kill it? Yeah, 100%. I do as well. If they did it out often, twice a week. Twice a week. Yeah, the beginning of the article says they did it how many times? 12 times what are you?

Starting point is 01:45:47 Yeah, I mean there what it was it called you just kind of like mailing it in or packing it in you're just kind of you're not you're not putting in the work Obama is broad I'm like did you guys see they brought him to the White House because Biden's Numbers were taking so much it looked like a rock star was in the white out like the Joe Biden was behind them Like trying to chase them and every it's just everybody will watch him every single day Pat let me ask you. I mean you're a businessman. You're focused. Yep. Okay. You we've done this is number one What are we 140 what is this 143 not to mention the X amount that we 148? Holy shit and not to mention the dozen or so we did back in Dallas under a different name. If you were only doing this once a month, 12 times a year.

Starting point is 01:46:28 Yeah. How? What kind of bank for the buck? Oh, we feel it if you don't do it for a week. Yeah. Yeah, you feel it if you don't do it for a week. Pateas game is a lot of work. It's, but you have to do it steadily.

Starting point is 01:46:40 But I wonder what Spotify, Spotify to give up. I actually think they made a very smart move because Obama's have to have their show on Spotify and Spotify doesn't have to pay them shit. They just have to be like, what are you talking? I'm not gonna pay you nothing. You're gonna put it on here anyways because you have to mess with my audience. Yeah. Okay. But the reason why we were willing to pay Rogan is because he agreed to be what? But the reason why we were willing to pay Rogan is because he agreed to be what? Exclusive if you're willing to do exclusive will pay you 25 and you do one or two episodes a week But if you want to be able to put this everywhere, why the hell am I gonna give you money? I'm gonna give you shit Yeah, and I think that's the right move they made good for Spotify Spotify

Starting point is 01:47:19 You said something Spotify is in a business of getting listeners. You talk such a logical way you said, that's capitalism. Yeah, I don't mind giving you money, okay? I'll give you money, but you gotta bring me listenership. Exactly. You do? Great. Here's what we'll pay you.

Starting point is 01:47:35 And Tony says something pretty funny before the podcast. He goes, how many people do you know that said, hey, did you catch that latest Obama podcast? Yeah. I've never seen it. I've never seen it. Anybody. I've never seen it.

Starting point is 01:47:44 If you're in the comment section, has anybody ever listened to one of the podcasts? And if you've listened to all of them comment below, I'm actually curious. Although Obama, Hillary, what's it called? Obama was hamstein. I'm with him? No, that's not my favorite.

Starting point is 01:47:57 It's called renegades. Yeah, renegades. Renegades. That's fucking hilarious. It's Obama and Bruce Springsteen. I don't know, should be much bigger than it is, regardless. I think, I think so. Should it, though?

Starting point is 01:48:09 I don't know. Obama and Bruce Springsteen, you don't think you tie my cons. Don't, don't say it because you don't like his politics. It's Obama. Let me tell you. I think Obama has the, I don't know that Bruce Springsteen has the pull, but I think

Starting point is 01:48:21 I don't know about Bruce. I don't know how to. I think people like Michelle more than they like a Barack. I think people are over-baroque. I think I don't know about people. I don't know. I think people like Michelle more than they like a Barack. I think people are over Barack. I think they're done with them. They're sick of them. They're seeing the $800 million library. He's building in Chicago. They saw the 800 page. Fucking out of my office. He wrote about this. This is the far end proud boy Tyler that's talking right now. Just get back to the normal. I think to know I think people saw exactly what Barack Obama did to the country. I think they saw how we divided it and destroyed it i think they saw that race relations were done all time high before barok obama

Starting point is 01:48:49 got off it's i think they saw that he said trava martin could be his kid i think they see well through barok obama i think you're absolutely wrong i think that by the way that i don't think that on the right side of things it was eighty plus million people that would love to listen i don't know why they aren't i don't think it's absolutely advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage.

Starting point is 01:49:08 I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage.

Starting point is 01:49:16 I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage.

Starting point is 01:49:24 I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. I don't think it's an advantage. four-year, $25 million a year contract with me, and he's gonna do two episodes a week, and a heart bit I'll sign a $25 million contract with Obama for four years with two episodes a week, but him and his wife, life, right here, $25 million, what do you wanna do? I'll give you $25 million upfront and another $75 million over the next three years. You wanna come on, let's do it. He's gonna get the eyeballs, period, it's Obama.

Starting point is 01:49:40 He's young, he's sexy, he's attractive, he's got an audience. Not an audience that you would kick it with, but he does have an audience, that's the key. Barack, if you're listening, Pat just made a verbal offer towards you. Do you think spot him on down to Florida? Do you guys think Spotify would pay? How much do you think Spotify would pay Joe Biden to be on a podcast with his wife?

Starting point is 01:49:58 How fucking funny with that? Minimal weight. Minimal weight. He would just be trying to shake people's hands. I don't even there. It's like, Joe, dude, I'm so funny. That's Minimal weight. Minimal weight. He would just be trying to shake people's hands. I don't even there. It's like, Joe, dude, I'd be so funny. That's not him, though. At this point of the game, everybody knows that he got, we became president for different reasons.

Starting point is 01:50:13 It's a whole different situation. That's about to get a very ugly. He became president for one reason. It's just that he wasn't Trump. That's basically it. That's it. Okay, no, you're not, yes, but at the same time, listen, strategically America made a stupid mistake because during 9-11 everybody got behind America and the enemy was outside of America

Starting point is 01:50:38 during COVID instead of making China the enemy which would have brought the entire country together. America made Trump the enemy. Trump was in the enemy, which would have brought the entire country together. America made Trump the enemy. Trump wasn't the enemy. They're idiots, just so you know that. They're idiots, what they did. Whether you agree or disagree, that was a stupid move because,

Starting point is 01:50:54 yes, you got him to get out of office, but you also divided America. So you may have done something like, oh, we figured out a way to get rid of that guy. We've been peached him 17 times. Who gives a shit? People now, they're thinking other people are way to get rid of that guy. We've been peached him 17 times, who gives a shit. People now, they're thinking other people are enemies just because they have differences together.

Starting point is 01:51:09 It's a very stupid move made by America. I don't think that was a right move. And you still can't say, like, we're not holding China accountable, because it's all to be honest with each other. It definitely came from there. It's still people are still like, it's kind of racist if you're saying that it's from them.

Starting point is 01:51:23 Like, no, it's not. Like, people are right now saying, I would listen to anybody. saying that it's from them like no, it's not like people are right Nothing I would listen to anybody. Okay, so let's do the ERP. I'm gonna respond to you I listen to anyone on ppd. But Obama, right? Okay, I Would love to have Obama on here to ask him some real questions not because oh my god We have a bomb Obama. No, I want to ask Obama some real questions to see what he contributed to and what because remember when he said something, he said something a few years ago, says, listen, if you can't pull your pants up and you're going and doing this and you don't have the money to do so, you know your broke.

Starting point is 01:51:56 Like, I don't know if you remember this when he said this like three, four years ago. That's a statement to a community, you know, so I think there's a part of him, look, when you start making money and you start really making some real money, your decisions change. You start realizing taxes just for the hell of it. I'm not for it. You know, I remember when Dave Shippell got his first big payday and Obama was raising taxes on the first term.

Starting point is 01:52:20 He should be like, this is the first time I made six million dollars. Can you just wait one more year before you raise the taxes, right? But even shepe was like, I don't want to pay that additional $600,000. So working card, making money gets you to realize on certain things with taxes. By the way, a couple of people commented,

Starting point is 01:52:38 I do want to say something on what one guy said to you about you, Tony. Sunny Balling gave 20 bucks and he says, I didn't know who Tony was until the leaked video. Now I patiently wait for Mondays, hashtag kill Tony. Ooh, I like that. Those are my favorites, how you do that? I gave you a lot with your show, which by the way,

Starting point is 01:52:54 why don't you tell everybody about what you do on a weekly basis with your podcast. It's a cool format. Yeah, it's a big, crazy stand-up comedy live show in front of a big, sold-out live audience and give people starting out or maybe someone that just wants to get sort of there a little bit of a big break. A chance I pull names out of a bucket.

Starting point is 01:53:12 Now, if I pull a person's name out, they get one minute uninterrupted to do their stand-up comedy on a stage while me and my guests set it at table. Then they stay up there for about anywhere between five and 15 minutes afterwards as I interview them and ask them questions about their life Find out more about them. So it's like a super spontaneous crazy all improvised Stand-up comedy meets regular podcast podcasts where anybody can sort of be on it and people get a chance. It's sort of like a I don't know America's got talent meets a podcast, but only with stand-up and it's super edgy.

Starting point is 01:53:47 So, so big warnings there. We push it to the limit. What's been your most memorable moment? Because I've seen a bunch of them. I know you and Bill Burk kind of got into something at one point. I don't know. What's like the most memorable thing in the world? It's one of my least memorable moments in the world.

Starting point is 01:54:00 I hear that, Exile. Yeah. Somebody clipping that out of context as well. But, you know, I mean, so many tons. There's just, you know if you're going to get a chance to do that. I'm sure that's going to be a good idea. I'm sure that's going to be a good idea. I'm sure that's going to be a good idea. I'm sure that's going to be a good idea. I'm sure that's going to be a good idea. I'm sure that's going to be a good idea.

Starting point is 01:54:14 I'm sure that's going to be a good idea. I'm sure that's going to be a good idea. I'm sure that's going to be a good idea. I'm sure that's going to be a good idea. I'm sure that's going to be a good idea. I'm sure that's going to be a good idea. I'mays. Yeah, to be doing them for how many years now eight years over over eight years almost nine years But we've also done a bunch all around the world. We sold out theaters in London and Dublin, Ireland and all over Australia all over Has any comedian gone on just for the one minute and now eight years later

Starting point is 01:54:38 They've blown up and they're massive now like who like any House old names. Oh my goodness. So many. First of all, all of my people that were, that I made regulars, there's always a few regulars at any given point and they write and perform a brand new minute every single week. They're all working now. Every single one of them from Hans Kim, the newest regular all the way to, I mean, everybody's just a full-time comedian now.

Starting point is 01:55:00 Ali Mkowski, Sarah Wein, Shane Kim Kongdon, William Montgomery, David Lucas, all of these people are doing their own shows. I saw the, I've seen a few shows, I'm like, I love the format the way it is. It's, guy gets up for one minute, if you're able to hit it great, if you're not, you know, it is what it's got a minute to do. Do we have colors, by the way?

Starting point is 01:55:20 John, if we got any colors, let's take a couple colors here for the podcast. By the way, Tyler, I just saw your socks. Very interesting socks. Good for you. Those are my rocket socks. Wow. So I'm so impressed with you, man. That's so impressive. There's a bomb a socks. Yeah, I see a bomb on there. Obama podcast. You would never want to miss a bomb. I'm next to Bruce. Very impressive. Just so that I could step on him. We have a couple calls. Go for it. We have a Gus on the line. What a name. This is the first time Gus.

Starting point is 01:55:46 How you doing? Fine. Everything's cool. Big fan of your show, by the way, also shout out to Adam. By the way, my question is, I know this is like old news, but Luisique just won a Grammy. Do you think that's a sign that he could come back to Hollywood or is he going to be treated like a Harvey Weinstein type

Starting point is 01:56:04 individual, you know? But I hope everything's all right. What do you think about that? I think I think that is the beginning of I think it's the foot in the door without a doubt because he's getting respect from someone, something over there is like, uh, did he get charged with a crime? You know, these things when the smoke clears, sometimes, you also have to remember that a lot of people

Starting point is 01:56:29 that it looks like maybe they got canceled, maybe they're selling more tickets than ever. Maybe their viewership is up, maybe people went and took, maybe even the haters went to find something else to be mad about and what are you gonna do? If you're sitting there watching Louis and you're not laughing, you have a dog shit sense of humor. So, I mean, you're literally not funny. You don't know what's funny and shit that you laugh at stupid because Louis is truly one of the best in the world.

Starting point is 01:57:00 It's completely undeniable. Nobody doesn't like him. Nobody can't laugh at him. So yeah, what's good is good. Same thing with Rogan's podcast. People think he's being cancelled. His listenership keeps going up. So, you know, the people that are like, I'm going to go find something else. I'm going to find a clip that makes me mad. They end up getting addicted to long form conversation, all of a sudden, instead of listening to Pink Floyd on their drive to work every day, they're listening to Joe Rogan because they're into that format now. They get hooked and Louis does good work. So does Joe. People that do good work will continue.

Starting point is 01:57:35 I mean, look, you say wines, is it going to be treated like Weinstein? People, even though he's not getting the money and sold or whatever, people are still watching all those Weinstein movies. I just watch Goodwill Hunting. Every time you watch a Tarantino film, a lot of your favorite movies, the Matrix, a ton of them, he made. So you can try to cancel the person, but you can't really cancel their work. Do we have any other callers that you want to chime in, John? Yes, Eric is on the line.

Starting point is 01:58:05 Eric, how you doing? I am doing great. Thank you so much for the opportunity to be on the show. And my question is, can we trust Elon Musk with the only Twitter? Do you think he will push his own agenda like Jeff Bezos does with the Washington Post or will he stay true to his statement of freedom of speech? I think he absolutely will push his agenda, but I trust his agenda more than the current agenda.

Starting point is 01:58:27 Everybody who buys a business, there's an agenda. When you take a girl out, you have an agenda. Your phone call today came with an agenda. Our podcast has an agenda. Kyltoni has an agenda. The current administration has an agenda. Nobody here is naive, but his track record of creating businesses and finding ways to do things better, I trust more than I do everybody on social

Starting point is 01:58:55 media agreeing together. Right now, all the major social media platforms all follow by the same guidelines, all of them do. They all follow and drop everybody. To get one platform owned by a guy like Elon Musk, that's not gonna be doing that. I think that gives everybody competition and scares the crap out of them, which is something we need today. John, do we have another caller? Good question, man.

Starting point is 01:59:20 Yes, we have Victor on the line. Why they don't have Pulp Fiction on there? Who's is this? Somebody's messing with that. We have Victor on the phone. Victor, how are you? I'm doing all right. How are you?

Starting point is 01:59:29 I'm good, man. What's on your mind? No, I was just curious. I follow the market pretty closely. And I'm sorry, my little star shock here. My man. So you follow the market closely. I'm sorry. You said you follow the markets closely? I follow the market pretty closely. I've done my own studies on it. What I'm curious to know about your opinion is, who do you think is going to show up in the

Starting point is 01:59:57 big short, too? Who do I think is going to show up in a big short, too? Meaning like who's going to be the modern day Michael Burry or who's going to be the AIG's of the world or the WAMU in the world that went from being war 330 to 1.9 billion bought by Chase. Like which one are you talking about? What was that second part I used to? You know how WAMU used to be a big bank and it was competing with everybody and then Chase came in bottom for 1.9 billion, two years after being valued at 330 on Forbes.

Starting point is 02:00:25 Or Layman Brothers or Bear Stearns. Like who's gonna crumble next? Is that what you're asking? Yeah, pretty much. You know, there's people that bet against the economy. There's people that bet with the economy, but who is gonna come out on top? Who's gonna come out on top?

Starting point is 02:00:43 Those who have a real business that's making real money. So you know, all these SPACs that went out of business and the SPAC model, like 80% of the SPACs are not even worth looking at because there's not real approval in business within the SPAC. Are you following that? Victor or did you, John, did you just drop them? He's still not.

Starting point is 02:01:03 Okay, so you know the SPACs, Victor or did you John did you just drop him? He's still not. Okay, so you know this is, are you familiar with SPACs? Victor or no? Victor, are you familiar with SPACs? Yes, I'm sorry, I'm having a hard time hearing. Okay, then, so if you know what happened with SPACs, you would know what's going on. The fact that those that don't have a real business model are gonna get their assets handed to them.

Starting point is 02:01:23 I think private equity is gonna take a hit. I don't think we have too model are going to get their assets handed to them. I think private equity is going to take a hit. I don't think we have too many knowing-come-no-assets stuff right now. People that are buying homes, you kind of got to have 10 or 20% in there. They're not doing the kind of 100% financing that was being done back in the days in the 2000s. I do think some of the banks are going to take big hits, but not the way they took it before. But these guys that are playing all in money into the market without a real proven business model, they're going to take hits. A lot of NFT companies are gonna take hits.

Starting point is 02:01:53 There's gonna be a few of them that are gonna make it, that are gonna do well, but most NFT companies are gonna take a big hit. But anyways, I can go on into that little bit more. John, do we have any other callers that have a question for Tony? Victor, thank you for the call. Do we have any other questions for Tony? No, we don't. It's a wrap bit more. John, do we have any other callers that have a question for Tony? Victor, thank you for the call. Do we have any other questions for Tony? No, we don't. It's a wrap for calls.

Starting point is 02:02:09 Okay, sounds good. So what I want to do is the following. This shirt here, free will that I have on. Okay, if you can see this, obviously it's not about free will. It's about free in Will Smith. This started with the conversation that we had during dinner, which was a bet. I think there was a hundred dollar bet that was made. If you remember. You and Joe Rogan. We made a bet and the bet was what? Within 12 months, there's going to be a divorce

Starting point is 02:02:31 or there's not going to be a divorce. Right. You said that there is going to be a divorce. I bet on the hundred dollars being a divorce. And Rogan said no. I said no one's willing to take me on this bet. He says, I'll bet you. Let's bet a hundred bucks.

Starting point is 02:02:42 Right. So you and Rogan threw down a lofty one hundred dollar bet well I think he can afford it and I'm going to I'm going to pray for you I can afford it as well but here here's the point the point is what while we were we're having a conversation for me it was more from the standpoint of that video that came out with Jada and Jada bully and will and will say in social media is my bread and butter I don't appreciate what you're doing right now she says you can tell now why we have issues of marriage I think Jada is a bully. I think Jada Smith, Pinky Jada, Pinky Smith is a bully and she's bully and will. And I think this guy has been sitting behind closed doors.

Starting point is 02:03:25 Do I think he's done what he's done and had a lot of fun? 1 million percent. Do I think he's done some stuff that's broken Jada's heart? 1 million percent. Do I think there's a possibility that Jada has said and used the following words that if you do anything, I'm going to tell your darkest secrets to the Lord. Of course, of course.

Starting point is 02:03:43 I'm leaning towards yes. Yeah, 100%. Do I think there would be a red table conversation throwing will under the bus? Maybe I don't know. I think there could happen. Do I think it would be playing the victim card? You don't know how difficult it was being married to Will?

Starting point is 02:03:58 I think so. Do I think Will went on Charlamagne, the God, what is that show? They killed a breakfast club. And Charlemagne asked him a question saying, hey, how does it feel knowing Jada will never love you the way she loved two-pots? And he asked the question of will.

Starting point is 02:04:14 Do I think that bothers him? Yes. Do I think the market's seeing what happened with August as it Augusta was the guys? Augusta was the guy's name. Augusta, yes. Do I think that bothers him on how the market sees him? Yes. Do I think J do I think that bothers him on how the market sees them?

Starting point is 02:04:25 Yes. Do I think Jada maybe has something on him with challenges with maybe men and yet certain things that he did with men over the years? I think there's something there, but I think the guy almost needs to be given permission to call it quits and move on and he's afraid to do so. So, that's why the hashtag free will to say will, buddy, if you're going through it, man, somebody needs to talk because I can guarantee you,

Starting point is 02:04:50 here's a challenge, somebody asked, Joe and I were having a conversation about, have you ever talked to a friend about having to get a divorce? Remember to have that conversation when, because I've had those conversations with a handful of friends, but it's only been a handful of friends. And the conversation goes like this. And by the way, 60% of the time

Starting point is 02:05:06 when you have that conversation, it backfires on you. Cause here's how the conversation goes. How to friend a mind? I pulled them aside and I'm like, dude, oh, how do I explain this to you? You are an alpha. I've known you for many years, you've always been an alpha.

Starting point is 02:05:23 But you've turned into a beta and I look at your face, you hate it, because you've compromised your own values and principles. And it feels like every time I talk to you're walking on eggshells, it feels like you have handcuffs and shackles right now, and you don't know what to do next. And I just wanna tell you from the outside, I'm not the only person that notices this, okay?

Starting point is 02:05:43 You need to make a decision. I've had this type of conversation with men and women. Before I get to this point, I wanna push therapy, I wanna push as much gold places, gold do stuff together, but every once in a while get to this point, right? Added to five conversations, three of them guess what happened to it?

Starting point is 02:06:01 He told me. The individual goes back and tells who. Great, the wife. And after they tell the wife, what does the wife do? Don't you can never talk to Patrick? You can never talk to Patrick against the phone. It's over. It's over.

Starting point is 02:06:11 It's over. Okay. But the other two, when and processed it, and one of them took the lead in the family, read a book called No More Mr. Nice Guy, and a wife actually responded to him and said, you know what, I've been waiting for this. And they've been happily married till today. The other one went and had the conversation. She was not having it.

Starting point is 02:06:30 He left her. Okay. I think I wonder how many people who are friends would will have the audacity to give that advice because they know it's gonna go back to who. For her. And if it goes to Jada, what do you think Jada's gonna do to that person?

Starting point is 02:06:45 Okay. So think, you know, one time a guy and I were having a conversation, I said, listen, a friend of mine, I said, look, why is it that everything I talked to you about, you go tell your wife, it's just my wife? I said, do you think that's how it works? Yeah. So let me get to straight, what book tells you that everything

Starting point is 02:07:01 you tell me have to go tell your wife? I said, do you think everything you tell me, I go tell my wife? He said, well, think everything you tell me I go tell my wife? He said, well, it's your wife, aren't you supposed to do that? I said, no, that's not how life works. Why? What's your biggest concern? Here's my biggest concern. If me and Tony are homies and we're bodies, we're best friends.

Starting point is 02:07:15 He's married. I'm married. He confines in me and something. I go tell my wife, three years later my wife and I get a divorce. Hypothetically, what's her loyalty to Tony this much? This much. Did you understand what just happened? Is this much loyalty that she has to Tony? She doesn't sit there and worry about

Starting point is 02:07:33 what Tony's career is gonna be, right? It's my loyalty to him that I just lost Tony. So now Tony doesn't feel comfortable talking to me. I'm convinced there's a web that will is in, man. I think she has videos of him getting pounded by dudes. No, there has to be something. Don't, dude. And he's standing in it for the black man.

Starting point is 02:07:53 In the name of the video, men in black. Oh, man. Well played, well played. Well played. I just stupided both funnies. I actually have one real idea that I think needs to happen. Because what I'm getting very sick of is these A-list Hollywood alpha men

Starting point is 02:08:10 getting emasculated by women. Right now, the two biggest stories in Hollywood right now are freaking Will Smith and Jada Smith and Johnny Depp and Amber never heard of him. Never heard of him. Okay, and I think what needs to happen is they need to get sit down in a room and have two mirrors and one seat in the middle of the mirrors

Starting point is 02:08:26 Okay, and Leonardo freaking the capriot needs to say welcome to the room gentlemen We are in a very elite company right here. We are the biggest a list stars in the freaking world And you I want you both to look at a fucking mirror. You're will Smith. Yeah, you're Johnny freaking deaf Like just looking to remember who you guys are you could do whatever you want? Yeah, you own the world you're worth hundreds of millions Yeah, and you're just getting emasculated by these women taking your money and taking your pride Follow my playbook here for a second gentlemen You don't have to knock your marinara kids, but be a goddamn pimp. Yeah, maybe I'm doing too much stuff with fresh and fish and rollo these days

Starting point is 02:09:04 I don't know shout out to those guys. But man up. Well, Samantha. Yeah, man up. I agree. So so man up. But but but here's the thing. Let me tell you what would if you you've ever been in a web. Have you ever been in a relationship like that with a woman where you felt like you have you ever because I've been have you ever been in a course. Yeah. Okay. When when you're in it, how oblivious are you? Yeah, you are. Like you almost have to ever been in a course? Yeah. Okay. When you're in it, how oblivious are you? Yeah, you are. Like you almost have to be out of it to notice it.

Starting point is 02:09:29 Yeah. Who do you know that hates Will Smith? Prior to the slap on the face on what happened with it. Zero. You tell me who you've ever met that's ever hated Will Smith. Nobody. Nobody. Nobody.

Starting point is 02:09:39 I mean, beloved is an understate, no right? American legend. American legend for a guy to come from his background and build a story that he's built people forget, Prince of Belor, all these movies he's done, all these major films he's done, and he's going through this. So here's what we're doing folks.

Starting point is 02:09:52 If you want to support this, this is what we're doing. If you want to wear the shirt to start the conversation and post it, you can buy this shirt, I'm being serious with you. You can buy this shirt at freewillshirt.com. Am I saying it correctly? Can you put the website so people can see it? You can buy freewillshirt.com. Am I saying it correctly? Can you put the website so people can see it? You can buy freewillshirt.com.

Starting point is 02:10:09 We're selling it for $29.99. A hundred percent of the profits is going to National Institute of Mental Health. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Of the profits. You can buy this and free will pick your size 30 bucks, gold weight to the bottom, gold weight to the bottom,

Starting point is 02:10:24 gold weight to the bottom, gold weight to the bottom gold way to the bottom gold way to the bottom gold way to the bottom press no thanks click on that link national institute of mental health whatever we sell we're sending all the money there because i do believe i do believe will is having certain mental challenges right now and i'm telling you i'm convinced his therapist his friends everybody's afraid of jada and somebody needs to have this video be shared with them for him to say,

Starting point is 02:10:46 you know what? I don't like why you do, people are talking like this, or he's gonna say, maybe this makes sense. And by the way, I'd love to see it work out. I just think it's way past the level of it working out as time for him to move on. We don't like Joe doesn't think it's gonna work out.

Starting point is 02:11:03 Joe thinks he's gonna live unhappily with Jada for at least a long time in him tomorrow. We don't like Joe doesn't think it's gonna work out. Joe thinks he's gonna live unhappily with Jada for at least longer than a year. He cannot do that though, he's such a special guy. I know, but it's already been a long time. You know what I mean? Guys like that, sometimes they get into deep. He's, you said it best, you surrounded by yes men. What was the date of that?

Starting point is 02:11:20 I'm not bad. I'm gonna know, this was a really April. This was really April. UFC Jacksonville. Whenever we got really a plate of that. I'm going to know because it was really April. It was really April. You have to see Jacksonville. Whenever we got really a date of UFC. And Adam, you could see his soul. Like in that video where she's recording him, you could see his soul is just reminded.

Starting point is 02:11:34 I love that this whole thing started with a dinner group dinner with yourself. First of all, Joe and Tony. And Tony. It's the name of that restaurant. Cal Fort State Cal. Wow. The owner sent me'clock to name of that restaurant. Here. Remember Cal Ford stay cows. Wow. The owner sent me a big fan of the content in Jacksonville. Unbelievable.

Starting point is 02:11:49 Unbelievable. By the way, what was the waiter's name? I wish we could give him a shout out. Man. That guy is a man. She was like the guy spoke like John Burnthal. Oh, good. I kept telling him you sound like John Burnthal.

Starting point is 02:12:00 He had the right voice. What's the name of the place again? Calford C-O-W-F-O-R. Can you put it in the side? I'm looking at these guys a shout out. I'm starving right now. No, no, no. No, no had the right voice. What's the name of the place again? Calford, C-O-W-F-O-R-D. Can you put it down? I'd like to give these guys a shout out. I'm starving right now, not wanting to say. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Starting point is 02:12:09 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, anyways, it was insane. It was amazing. Highly recommended and the owners, even a classier guy on what they're doing, fantastic place.

Starting point is 02:12:28 I'd love to go there tonight to eat, but it's long drive. Anyways, gang, listen, if you agree with what we just talked about in regards to will, just start the discussion, talk about it, wherever you wanna talk about it. And if you support the shirt, other people are also gonna talk about it. A hundred percent going to go to National Mental Health Institute is where the profits are going to go.

Starting point is 02:12:50 But last but not least, before we wrap up, Tony, you're performing tonight. Where are you performing tonight? Miami Improv, two shows and two shows tomorrow. And yeah, I'm on a big tour, going to a bunch of places, TonyHingeClip.com for tickets. And if you're not following his show

Starting point is 02:13:07 On YouTube kill Tony if you just type in kill Tony you'll find it. It's hilarious. The format is great If you haven't seen it and then our brother here Vinnie Oshana Future looks bright stay tuned. We got some big things here coming soon when we when is our next podcast? What do we have going today Rick Massie Monday, Diamond Dallas Page Tuesday. Ooh, love Diamond Dallas Page. And Paul Manafort on Thursday. Paul Manafort's Thursday next week. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:13:31 That's a pretty heavy list this week. Wow. Holy moly. Okay, folks, have a great weekend. We'll see you guys on Monday. Take care. Bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye.

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