PBD Podcast - Conservative Titan Liz Wheeler | PBD Podcast | EP 131 |

Episode Date: March 10, 2022

In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Adam Sosnick and Conservative Titan Liz Wheeler to discuss Politics, Religion, historic gas prices, the Russia Ukraine conflict, and much more... TOPICS Liz Wheeler explains how to engage with leftists Why don’t we discuss politics or religion? NYT claims kids are falling behind on their reading skills Patrick Bet-David reveals the true meaning of capitalism Spring Break 2022 Patrick Bet-David breaks down the historic gas prices Why the UAE completely ignored President Biden's phone call  Congress passes 1.5 trillion spending bill People are siphoning gas Why is America funding Biolabs in Ukraine? Breaking down the meetings between the Russian and Ukrainian Foreign Minister The truth about CNN's Jeff Zucker Liz Wheeler is an American conservative political commentator, author, and podcast host. From 2015 to 2020, Wheeler hosted One America News Network's Tipping Point with Liz Wheeler, where she was known for her finale segment, "Final Point." Watch the full podcast here: https://youtu.be/RoJDSGX0IwQ Follow Liz on Twitter here: https://bit.ly/3pTgFIg Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list About Co-Host: Adam “Sos” Sosnick has lived a true rags to riches story. He hasn’t always been an authority on money. Connect with him on his weekly SOSCAST here: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw4s_zB_R7I0VW88nOW4PJkyREjT7rJic Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.   To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: [e-mail] --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

Okay, good. We are live episode 131 with Liz Wheeler. And if you don't know Liz Wheeler, she likes to keep it safe. She's not controversial at all. You don't push buttons. You like a safe space type of an environment. So folks, if you're listening today, you may get upset. You may feel safe. You may feel all of it, but we're happy to have you on the podcast today. Thank you. I brought some emotional support, you know, animals, ponies, unicorns with me. We saw that outside. Yeah.

And our guys are taking care of it just so you know, perfect, perfect. We bought a purifier just yesterday, not for you because potentially we have a guest that may participate in some extra curricular activities that we just decided to bring it in just in case. Not me. No, no, not you, but. He is looking at you though. But meaning you're willing to support in case that does take place.

I want everyone to feel included and inclusion. So I don't want you to feel alienated. Your level of generosity is at a whole different level. And sarcasm as well. Yeah, well, we're on it today. So this is here. Yeah, so for people who don't know your story, you're all over the place, you know your show, your podcast

I think it is a political 30 under 30 on what you were doing the voice you have you got a lot of people a lot of followers a lot of fans Why don't you share your story with the audience that doesn't know your background? Yeah, thanks so much for having me by the way you guys are killing it here Especially I just watched your episode with Rod Blagojevich. Man, I love that guy. You just think about it. So he's so good. I mean, obviously a corrupt crooked politician, right?

So likable. So likable. So likable. You did a really good job asking questions, too, because, and letting him tell the stories, man, it was entertaining. I thought you did a really good job. Yes, I am very excited. I host the Liz Wheeler show.

We are almost one year into this independent venture, which I am just having the time of my life building this. My background is actually cable news. I hosted a show, a prime time show on one American news for five years before I decided to take the leap into independent media for a variety of reasons. The biggest reason because the average age of the cable news viewer is over 65 years old and average age.

Yeah. So just old people are watching the cable news. Total boomer in town. Yeah. And which I love. I love all my Boomer fans, but we all agree. Yeah, yeah, but they agree that with me that the, you know, the biggest voting demographic in our country is millennials and soon going to be Gen Z these people need to be talked to

what need to be talked with and you are a millennial. I am a millennial yeah I'm 32 I'm 32. A lady typically doesn't reveal her age but you know when you're looking at 30 it made me like sad for a minute and I felt like I should be honest and talk about what I can claim it but you know I don't know if it's believable. Yeah so we've been I've been hosting this show it's really great it's been a ton of fun I've been traveling around to college campuses talking to kids on college campuses who are so interested in in what's happening and interested in discerning the truth. I wrote a book a couple years ago on how to engage with leftists,

which basically how to defeat them. It's called, how to top of the left's house of cards. My viewpoints have actually changed just a little bit, not on political policy since then, but at the time that I wrote that, it was published in 2017, I thought, okay, people need to learn how to actually engage. It's such an intimidating thing, right, to talk to liberal friends or liberal family

or people at your college and not know what to say, not have the exact response for a specific talking point from the left. And I thought, well, I work in this business I know all the answers to that. Let me write a handbook or a manual so that people can learn how to do that, too. And it's not that I reject that viewpoint now. I've just realized that given the ideology that is so pervasive on the left right now, this very Marxist ideology, whether it's critical race theory, whether it's the transgender ideology, 1619 project, this this anti-American attitude coming from the left, that we actually can't always change people's minds.

Call this cynicism that's come with age, but we can't necessarily change people's minds, but what we can do is we can enact policies that stop the creation of new leftists, meaning stop people from being indoctrinated into Marxism. And so that has resonated in such an interesting way with young people and college campuses to hear like, oh, I might not be able to change this crazy professor's viewpoint, but I can actually do things at the state or local level that stop his viewpoint being taught to children

or stop his viewpoint being applied to me. So that's what I've been spending the last semester doing, talking to college students about that and just diving into this new media that we're all doing. What do you hear them when you go talk to college students? What do you, like, and I'm not talking about people that agree with you, because people who agree with you, it is what it is. There's no converting there. It's people that don't

agree with you that are open to receiving. What do you notice in with them? Yeah, I mean, they immediately appeal to kindness and compassion or how they define kindness and compassion. So one of the most common questions that I get from leftist is, oh, I have a transgender friend or I have a transgender classmate and I don't want to deny their dignity, I don't want to deny their personhood, I don't want to anger them by not calling them, by the pronouns that they choose or not acknowledging what they're suffering.

And that's a very valid, I mean, that's a very exact... Is that the most common response that it has to do with trans- Yeah. ...trans- Yeah. ...the appreciation of their, how they identify, that's the most common thing you hear. Literally the most common thing that I hear from college age liberals is you're not being

kind to transgender. I am just trying to be kind to these people because these people, I mean, the narrative is that they're bullied. The narrative is that they commit suicide at very high rates, which is true on both accounts. And these college kids want to know, you know, why I don't support their transition because these students believe that the transition is actually being helpful to the students.

If you have a hundred conversations, how many times does the trans stuff come up with these people as the first thing they bring up? A lot. Really, like 50%, 80%. That's insane. That's crazy. Yeah, that's like a heavy topic, right?

Yeah, it's a yes, but it's less than 1% of the world is identifies as a child. But go back and think when you and I were in high school. That was a long time ago, right? Yeah, it's yes, but it's one percent of the world is identifies as Japan. But go back and think when you and I were in high school. That was a long time ago, right? 24 years ago, we were 25 years ago, we were in high school. There was no cell phones, right? For me, 25 years for you, 23 years. There was no cell phones. There was no social media. There was no Facebook. There was none of that stuff. So that's what they're seeing every day. So they're seeing those videos going viral. That's the topic. They're seeing the controversy

Yeah, there's the Caitlyn Jenners of the world. You're not nice. You're not, you know, you're too disrespectful You know people be why don't you accept and that's that's the conversation they're probably going to There's a difference between like what's being seen and the reality that they get so it's such a non-issue for 99.9% of Americans. But you got to work. The campus. The campus is. Well, it's a good part of human nature, though, to want to be a voice for the voice

or to want to stand up for the marginalized. So I don't discourage that. I just, I encourage the college students to actually define, well, what is compassion? What does it mean to actually help these people? What does it mean to give them dignity and respect? Because we should treat everyone with dignity and respect and fight for a quality under the law.

But it's not compassionate to push them into a surgery that they're should treat everyone with dignity and respect and fight for equality under the law. But it's not compassionate to push them into a surgery that they're gonna regret, that's irrevocable. It's not compassionate to indulge delusion. That's not compassion, that's actually the opposite. That's a form of abuse. So you have trans friends? Yeah.

You do. And how do you have those conversations with them? My trans friends tend to be conservative. Conservative trans friends. Yeah. Yeah, they have been. Give an example, give an example of one. Chad trans friends. Yeah. Yeah. Give an example, give an example of one. Chad Felix Green.

Chad Felix Green. And what's the conversation with him or to, you know, Chad being transgender, what's his approach towards politics versus others? He's very much against the transgender ideology as it pertains to our current political topic. He understands that he suffers from gender dysphoria. That's a real thing. It's a mental health issue. He understands that he suffers from that and that it causes him to want to mutilate

his body and he resists that. He understands that. He was guided a lot by Walt Hire. I don't know if you're familiar with Walt Hire. Walt Hire is probably 65, 70 years old right now. Transition was born, biologically male, transition to a woman, spent 20 years as a quote, quote, woman, and then detransition because of regret. And now helps young people who are suffering

from gender dysphoria, either detransition or cope how you should with the mental health issue. So Chad still identifies as, I mean, he says he's transgender, says he suffers from gender dysphoria, but he doesn't, he didn't undergo surgery. Yeah, I think the biggest thing is the fact that you can't have the conversation, you can't challenge, you can't push somebody's, you know, whatever argument they maybe have in. That's the issue.

But it's great to see somebody like you. I think you're doing it, Charlie's doing it, few people are doing it that are going on campuses and it's creating a ruckus. I mean, it's getting, have you had an experience with the one who'd kick you off campus? Has that happened to you yet or no? Are they pretty friendly to you? Well, no, they're not friendly to me.

So what typically happens or what happened, I'm trying to think of what college this was. I think it was at the University of Michigan. We went to the University of Michigan late last fall and they put posters up, the YAF students, the Young America's Foundation students that host me on the campuses, put posters up, the YAF students, young America's foundation students that host me on the campuses, put posters up for the events all over, and they plastered probably 1,000 of them

all over the walls, just to make a show. And then they caught on video leftists who were ripping them down one by one and throwing them in the trash can. There's been a really interesting change though on college campuses. Five years ago, if you went to a college campus and talked about a controversial issue,

a lot of people would turn out who didn't agree with you. It was in fact, I mean, you've everyone seen those video clips where the left is just getting squashed by some owned, if you will, by some conservative speaker. And they wanted to engage. They thought, like, listen, my arguments will get the best of you. They wanted to have that engagement. They don't, they don't come anymore. They don't come anymore the same way. I mean, since, since the advent of cancel culture, since the advent of cancel culture, since the advent of these safe spaces,

and trigger warnings and everything, they typically just go outside and protest, and they don't want you to be allowed to be there versus engagement. So, saying they're trying to cancel you, they don't even want you on campus versus coming and debating you and engaging you and having, oh, I'm just gonna say.

Yeah, I always invite them. I actually always say before I go, anybody who disagrees with me and I produce will bring you to the front of the line at the question and answer, like I want to engage with you. Are you speaking of podium? Are you just going out and talking to people who want to run with the mic? No, no, it's not man on the street. It's an event, a hosted event where hundreds of people come and it's in an auditorium generally. Just like a lot of other speakers. I mean, it's a very common thing that happens in the college campuses, different clubs, bring in different speakers.

Yeah, but I love that though. I love, and I really haven't to do with debate. I love it. I love your courage to go out there and have those conversations. We need way more people who have the courage like you to go out there and talk people, especially opposition to talk to these younger kids.

Go ahead Tom. You know what's very interesting is, my wife, the Pizzoque Bay, she teaches 7 she teaches seventh-eighth grade and kids are coming in with the notion that to disagree, remember there's discuss, process, and then open conflict. Now open conflict is disrespectful, yelling back and forth. But processing, the kids don't feel that processing is polite or nice. Well, that wouldn't be nice. That wouldn't be polite. So you've got kids there in the formative years, six, seven, eight, going to middle school about to be teenagers for the emotions. And they can and they are sort of being indoctrinated by a system that says don't process because that wouldn't be nice. And that elevates to in high school, well, you don't have the right to question someone else. I'm not questioning. I just want to process something that's of social importance. Or something that I think maybe we can both learn from. Suddenly, you go from nice to right to cancel. And that's the flow exactly what you just brought up, Pat. And it's happening. I think that's the worst part of it. Because what we're seeing is the downstream issue.

Downstream issue, pollution happens upstream. Downstream, the lake is polluted. We look at it, and go, gosh, how do we fix this? The upstream problem is these kids won't aren't even being taught how to have a civil processing discussion. Let me ask you guys a question. Here's a question for you. So I go to my store, I'm having dinner there with Jen, and it's her birthday, and our waiter comes. I'm talking to the waiter, so tell me, where are you from? He says, why grew up in San Diego, but I lived in San Francisco and now I'm over here. I saw a fantastic. I said, how do you like in Florida? She says, yeah, it is what it is. Where are you from? I said, I lived in LA 20 some years. I lived in Dallas for five years and I've been in Florida for one

year. How do you like Florida? I said, I love it. What do you love about Florida? I said, policies, freedom. Let me do what I want to do, low taxes, no taxes, low regulation, lifestyle, et cetera, et cetera. I said, I like that also about Texas, but it wasn't the lifestyle. He says, okay, walks away. Then he comes back.

And I said, let me ask you a crazy question here. He says, yes, yes. And he's now he's quick with me. I said, is it fair to say that you lean more left than you do right? Yes, yes, and he's now he's quick with me. I said, is it fair to say that you lean more left than you do right? Yes, I do. I said, how do you handle it with your family? We have one rule that we follow.

What's that? We don't talk politics. Just we just don't talk politics. That's how we keep our families together. So here's a, well, you gotta realize, we've heard this for the longest time. You don't talk politics, you don't talk religion, you don't talk this when you're doing business,

or with your family, isn't that a way of copping out and not willing to have the tough conversation that you need to have? What are your thoughts? Yeah, for sure. I mean, those should actually be the conversations that happen first and foremost around the family dinner table.

I mean, that's the actual real safe space is for parents to talk about these issues with their children. And for children to be able to ask questions and not think about the ramifications that might happen in the classroom or with their friends, but to ask their parents the awkward questions that they might have. I mean, this is something of course that's lost.

I mean, this goes back to the whole deeper issue of the nuclear family, right? Because parents should be indoctrinating their children. They should be passing on their values, their principles, their religious views, their politics, to their children, and then when their children are adults, then you can say, okay, do I want to continue as an adult? And following these values that I was taught.

But yeah, I mean, students in school in college, it's actually shocking sometimes what they don't know because they haven't heard anything, except for what Tom was saying that speeches violence if the speech offend someone. Well, Liz, if trans is the number one issue that they bring up, what's number two, three, four? Oh, what are youth care about the youth, the Gen Z? My youngest sister is 19, she's in college. She was right at that age.

She is right at that age. Yeah, they care. I mean, they care about, they don't care about fiscal issues because they don't have any money. They're not working. So as it started, it's really interesting too. If you think about it, the government just gave you $2 trillion in checks. It's going to happen somehow. Is it have to worry about it? Is it climate change? Is it? They're very fearful of climate change. One thing I think is interesting to note though, is we are setting up their generation for this incredible financial failure, not even because of all the spending, which is obvious, but because of how we're teaching them fiscal irresponsibility with college. So we send them off to college, and these colleges cost 20, 30, 40, 50,000 dollars a year. They come out at 22 years old with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, and yet then

we tell them, don't spend what you don't have. Live within your means, and this is just completely opposite of how we've culturally forced them to go to these institutions in order to be successful. But- I'm sorry, go ahead. Oh, let me talk about the climate change thing for a second. There are a significant number of Gen Zers who actually suffer clinical anxiety and insomnia. They have sleep problems because they're worried about climate change because they believe

the folks that say, oh, the earth is going to be... 12 years. Yeah, the 11, the AOC, 11 years and the earth is totally gone. Well, when you hear that and you're only 18 years old and for your entire life you're thinking, you're going to be dead in 10 years, wouldn't you also have the same nerve-wracking situation going on? If you're 17, 18, 19 years old and that's all you've ever known? If it's all I've ever known, sure. But I mean, that goes back to, I mean, that's why Pat does what he does.

That's why I do what I do, because there needs to be a counter narrative of reality. These kids want to hear the truth. That's the thing. They want to hear what's real. They are hungry for facts. They are hungry for knowledge. They've just only been fed one side of it, which is why, you know, my independent venture, Pat's independent venture are very successful because people actually do really, really want to hear the facts of what's going on. So, I mean, there shouldn't be a 17-year-old

or an 18-year-old or an 19-year-old in our country who's only heard that the Earth is going to end in 11 years and that they shouldn't have children in that. We should ban airplanes and red meat. They should say, oh, I hear that from one side. The other side says this, now let me think for myself. You know, whenever I watch Tom talk to his kids, he's always talking issues with his kids, always talking. He'd read this article, read that article. What do you think about this? What do you think about that?

They're always going back and forth, right? And they'll send the notes to him and he'll show it to me. Look what Bayley just said. Look what Brooke just said. Look how she processed this, right? Remember when we had RFK on first time around when we, Kennedy, I asked him a question and said, let's talk. Tell me about some of the Kennedy traditions.

What are some of the Kennedy traditions that you guys have? He says, every night at the dinner table, our father, he would start a debate. He would say, what do you think about drugs? Why are they bad? I said, here, that would say about Jesus. Yeah, he says, why are drugs bad to use? So you got to be kidding me. He says, no. Then he would say, what's wrong with me using drugs? What's wrong with me drinking as much as I want? What's wrong with rich people? Or rich people greedy? He said, it was

constantly debate, constantly debate. I put the fault of this and this is not going to, you know, some people are not going to be happy about this. When kids are panicking about climate change, you know whose responsibility that is. The head of the household, they don't have these conversations with them. Okay. The head of the household needs to in today's climate, if you really want to raise your kids to be strong leaders today, the head of the household has to be very aware of what's going on and be willing to have these conversations with them. Because if you don't and they go, you're essentially handing your kids over to teachers, to raise

them with a mindset that they want to raise them rather than you. Yeah, you're going to say, work hard, do this, be a good person, go to church, whatever some of the things parents say. But you got to get a little bit deeper. I think these conversations need to happen. But what happens when you teach your kids what you want and as Liz say, you indoctrinate them into your values, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, then you send them off for four years and they come back completely different and their values have done a complete 180.

But I'm not indoctrinating in my specifically in my values. I'm indoctrinating in a way of processing issues, not necessarily values. I'm telling you what are my values and principles. Here's what we live by. The beddavit family lives by lead, respect, improve, love. We don't bully. We don't get bully. We pray for courage, wisdom, tolerance, understanding. This is what we do as a family. This is what I encourage you to do. But you asked a why question. Why do you, like this morning Dylan, he's reading a book. He comes up to me.

He's reading a World Cup book. And in a World Cup book, he reads about a story of Hitler that in 1933 World Cup, 1932, whatever the World Cup was, Hitler's aspiration was to be like Mussolini. He says, Dad, do you realize what does Hitler? Every book I'm reading about Hitler is terrible. So what do you think about this guy? This guy's a terrible guy if he did this. I said, why don't you go figure out why he hated you so much?

So I should go figure I said go research you find out for yourself and tell me, but it's not saying You know, you're you're feeding and then saying go find out and then come back I'm teaching you to go find out for yourself. Yeah, it's crazy. Thank you. Yeah, you're teaching this you're not teaching This is the way we are, and that's it. Now, you're gonna have a kid fight you later on. Okay, you're teaching them how to process issues. And so I wanna read the story to you guys,

and then it's gonna be part of this conversation. I wanna get your feedback. So New York Times, children have fallen way behind in reading, and I could put their futures at risk. Last spring, as it was becoming clear that the pandemic, learning loss was real real and a serious problem for some kids, there were some voices suggesting the best approach to the problem was to not test for it. Brilliant idea, right? And some education professionals went further and claimed

that standardized tests weren't really measuring all the good things kids kept out of school were learning. The President of LA Teachers Union outright said there's no such thing as learning the laws she continued. It's okay that our babies may not have learned all their times tables. They learned resilience, they learned survival, they learned critical thinking skills, they know the difference between a riot and a protest. They know the words in correction and coup.

Oh my God, that's just, oh my goodness. Now the New York Times reports that in Virginia, one case that he found that early reading skills were at a 20 year low, this fall, which researchers describe as alarming in the Boston region, 60% of students at some high poverty schools have been identified as at high risk

for reading problems twice the number of students as before the pandemic thoughts. So my husband took my 13-month-old daughter to our local library because who doesn't love that and this was like a week or two ago and he walks in the library walks over to the children's section she because she likes to read books already she's she's actually liked that since she was like eight or nine months. And as soon as they got to the children's section, the children's librarian came over to them and said, sir, you have to wear a mask. And he said, oh, why?

What do you mean to who? Your husband. Oh, okay. And my husband's like, oh, why? There's nobody in here. And I'm not sick. And the librarian was just like, oh, that's our policy. Now, we live in a state where it's been lifted.

There's no mask mandate. This is a public library we fund it. My husband was like, oh, that's our policy. Now, we live in a state where it's been lifted. There's no mask mandate. This is a public library we fund it. My husband was like, oh, why is it your policy? And the librarian was like, do you want to talk to the library manager? And my husband was like, yes, I do. So the library manager comes down and says, oh, sir, it's our policy that you have to wear a mask.

My husband goes, may I ask why? And he said, well, because that's what the CDC says. That's the CDC guidance. And my husband's like, sure, but I'm not sick. I've already had COVID twice. I have natural immunity. You're not sick. Even the CDC says cloth masks aren't effective anymore.

So why? And the only thing that this library manager could say was, well, that's what the CDC says. That's what the CDC says. And so we're talking about this afterward. And we're, it's just, I mean, for small, it's really annoying, right. That's what the CDC says. And so we're talking about this afterward, and it's just, I mean, first of all, it's really annoying, right? It's very annoying, but it's also just so fundamentally

telling about this lack of critical thinking. And the lack of critical thinking, people don't think for themselves. They don't acknowledge that, oh, because the CDC is supposedly higher on the hierarchy than we are, we, the sorry people are, that they could be wrong, that they shouldn't just be obeyed, that you could, is okay to be skeptical. And I mean, this ties into teaching children to critically think and not just to echo certain beliefs. That's not what liberals think anymore. They don't want children to,

they don't care about children learning the times tables because what is mathematics? Unless you're going to be an engineer, it's a way of disciplining your mind to learn how to you know put variables together and draw a conclusion that's it's how to it's logic right they don't want children to learn that because as soon as you learn logic as soon as you learn how to think for yourself then you start questioning their authority so I know this sounds like a deep a deep dark conspiracy to take over the minds of our children but I think parents across the country, and this isn't just Republicans or conservatives. This is Democrats and liberals, too, are seeing the disservice that's being done to our

children and understanding that, listen, if we want our country to be what it is, we have to take this back. This is not what we want for our kids. Tom, what do you think about this? That's apparent. How do you process this? Well, there's two sides here. The educational side and the home side, the enablement side.

And on the enablement side, we become a video-based society. Look at the internet. The internet is very video-based. And the amount of depth of articles, it's hard to find them. Medium has them, slate has them, and conservative studies have them. But that's not where the traffic is. The traffic is for video and short burst. And so there are short, intense and span theater going on throughout the lives.

So it's hard to get a child to take the time and sit and read. I mean, you see it as a parent pat, it's getting increasingly difficult to get your kid to sit for 45 minutes, 30 minutes, 45 minutes, and actually focus and read. So the first problem is the video-based society and not reinforcing the value of reading and doing it for parents that have the resources to do so. The other side of it is that the schools and the types of books and resources that are available and the disciplines that they're putting in the children to do that, because they're not emphasizing on reading, the test scores are dropping. For not.

For any other reason in that, the number of minutes that they spend reading is dropping, that's why the test squares are dropping. So now, the tests are bad. So there's two sides of the problem, is how they're educating intentionally. And then the other side, his parents have to be active participants in this and turn off video-based, you know, massaging of their brain and get them to read, because reading builds reasoning, not the other way around. When you read, your mind is focused to reason with what's happening with the character because you're not being told you're interpreting. And when you're just told, turn left, turn left,

turn left, you turn left. So the couple sides of this. You know, from the LA teacher's union, she says, there's no such thing as learning loss. I think she's absolutely incorrect on that. If you're not reading and you're not studying and you're not focusing on school, yeah, you're going to forget some stuff. You're not going to improve on stuff.

And across the United States, you can see the public schools. There's how many schools are just failing or not getting good grades. But I will say she does have a point on one thing that, you know, we talked about this yesterday at lunch. There is a difference between IQ and EQ, book smarts and street smarts. So, again, this comes down to parenting and what you're doing with your kids at home.

Or, for instance, I don't care what the schools are doing, you're making your kids read. But if they're spending more and just like you're doing with your kids, I'm sure, you have a 13 month-year-old that is already reading major books apparently is. But but yeah, by herself, she reads them. Yeah, exactly. So, but, you know, there, there, there is something to be said that during a pandemic like this,

when there's a lot of different stuff going on and a lot of the world is changing so fast, you know, having conversations with your kids like, hey, this is what's going on. Critical thinking like you talked about, there needs to be a lot more critical thinking with your kids at home. Why are you home right now? Are you going to hang out with your friends? Is it worth hanging out with your friends? I don't know. You're going to get sicking out with your friends. Are you, is it worth going to school? What do you think about Zoom? Street smarts is, is a real thing, you know, you, you know, quite candidly talk about how you got a 1.8 GPA, but you were very popular in school. You were good in sports. You were very high in street smarts and math.

Yeah, but there's a difference here though. I was around people. I was around people. I was not a, a confined and alienated and, you know, parents still have to work and it was a very weird 18 months for the average parent. Forget about the people that have money. And it was a very weird 18 months for the average parent. Forget about the people that have money. They figured out a way to get an annual or two fee. But the parents, it was a mess.

So you have to know that for them to use that as an excuse to say our kids learned about, what was the thing? We learned about the difference between. Learning about cues and interactions is sort of absurd. So that's a good, so testing and riots. Yeah. Rather than teaching some things, so no, I understand what you're saying. I understand what you're saying with the point she's making that,

hey, there's more things to IQ than you got to get good at EQ, all this other stuff. No, I want you to learn logically to make better decisions. That's what I want you to learn. Okay. As a kid, my dad taught me how to think. That was his thing. It was teaching me how to think.

You know, one of the things we talked about, I made a video a few years ago, saying 15 things that don't teach you at school. If I ever ran a school, the next 20 years were doing media. The last 20 years, if we ever decide to start a university, or a high school, if we ever did, and it was a private school,

we would be teaching certain things that these guys don't want to teach. We would teach you how taxes work, the specific tax code, and why entrepreneurs pay taxes because of the sacrifices they take and versus deciding to be an entrepreneur, there's different dynamics. We teach you how to sell, we teach you how to lead,

we teach you how money works, we teach you how to negotiate, we teach you how to think for yourself, we teach you how to start a business, we teach you how to earn millions, how to negotiate. We teach how to think for yourself. We teach how to start a business. We teach how to earn millions, how to process issues, how to marry. No one's teaching you how to marry. What does this marriage think all about?

You get married all of a sudden, like holy moly. I don't have a manual for this. How many marriage books do I need to read by people that have been divorced seven times? What do I need to learn to how to marry? So I wanna sit. I wanna have a panel of a husband and wife that I've been married for 40 years.

I want a panel of a person that's been divorced three times. I want a panel of a person that's newlywit and I want them to debate. Somebody that doesn't believe in marriage in a single 55 years old. Why? Let the kids say, I kind of lean towards this guy. I don't want to get married.

I kind of lean towards this side. I'm afraid this guy got a divorce. Why I learned? We're not doing these things. So for them to say, we learned the difference between a coup and a insurrection. Who gave a shit about that at 10 years old, 11, 12 years old? What are we talking about?

Is that what we're feeding into? Their minds being the most important thing? The classes you're talking about goes to my point is that those are street smart, type things. Those are emotional intelligence, type things, marriage, entrepreneurship, how to make money, that's not IQ.

You can't do it. Algebra two, you can't do that. You can't do, but algebra math is very much about processing issues. Not trigonometry. I think math analysis is about processing issues. It is, because- It is, all the way through calculus.

I fully agree. I think, you know, the whole thing about Einstein would say, the difference between somebody wins and somebody doesn't have that Preffersing what he said it was the successful people stay with problems longer, right? Math is about I can't figure this freaking thing out. How the hell does this work? You stay with the problem longer You solve it then for the rest of your life You having a problem in a business and a relationship and a friendship you stay with the problem longer

You figured out right and I said I just not working out boom.bears what I'm doing. I think math is all that. Anyways, we learn by being around each other. We learn by being around each other. We learn by this discourse, right? The kids lost at 18 months. Most middle low income people in California, New York, they lost it. Scores in Boston, 60% it's pathetic. Anyways, I'll give you the last word.

Yeah, no, I mean, I think what you're talking about is taxes. So this is one of the reasons that I am as passionately conservative as I am. I mean, you mentioned at the beginning, we were talking right before we went on air about my Twitter mention feed because I mean, it's just a cesspool in there. It's not all roses and unicorns. There's a lot of people that are upset and, you know, that can be an intimidating thing. That can be something that that people have trouble handling. And that's not been something that I have coward away from. That's been something that I've accepted

as part of my job. And the re one of the reasons for that is exactly what you mentioned, because my dad is a small business owner. And when I mean, I can remember when I was like 10 years old, he paid me five bucks to help him do his taxes. Like I've been doing I was doing taxes with him. Right, but that's awesome. Right. And so I knew how to do my own taxes as soon as I got a job. I did it myself. I did it quickly. And you gain an understanding then for how something as intangibly sounding to a child as the tax code

concretely impact your family in your life. So I understood then, wow, if this politician is promising to raise the corporate tax code, that's going to have a negative impact on my dad's business. Oh God, that's so important to teach you this. But that's such a boring topic unless you have a hands-on experience. Exactly. And so I learn very young.

Okay, so this is something like I'm fiscally conservative because I see how it impacts my dad, which means how it impacts me and all my sisters and brother and my mom. And I think you have to have that kind of imprint on your, on your emotional intelligence as well as on your IQ. And the other reason not to not to wax too philosophically or the other reason that I am so conservative to and the reason that I'm so comfortable being a skeptic in all areas, um, is, is because when I was in late high school, I was diagnosed.

I was, I was actually a competitive swimmer. I was a pretty elite swimmer and I was a pretty elite swimmer. I was diagnosed with a cell disease. It's an autoimmune issue. And at the time, I mean, there weren't many options that doctors were just like, okay, you're gonna have to live with this. It wasn't really a livable thing.

And my mom was like, well, I'm not gonna accept that. Like, I'm gonna go search for something alternative. And thank God she was able to find an alternative way for me to manage my health, which I managed to this day, but I realized again that if we didn't live in the type of economy, the type of free market that we live in, my dad hadn't had the choice to be super smart with his finances and have a lot of savings, we wouldn't have been able to afford the treatment that ultimately saved my life. That's something that has a really big impact on you

as like in your formative years. Very emotional. Yeah. You know sometimes the money stuff, like you make money and I've owned all the crazy cars and all that stuff. I've lived in a beautiful home. All the people to have dinner with. But the basic things about money,

I had one of our guys, Madokin, Boris Madokin. He was at the house where I was having a cigar together. Salvadorian, husband and wife. He loved these guys. And he's sitting next to me and we're talking. And he starts crying. I said, what's up? What's on your mind?

He said, well, let me tell you what happened. I used to not make a lot of money and now making very good money. And he had made like 70 grand that month. He says, I thought it's about the cars and all this stuff. He bought his body, bought his wife in Escalade and his wife and his wife have been together for 25 years.

And he says, but you know what, it's crazy. What? There was a health issue that happened with my kid and we needed to spend $6,000. And it's very private. And we had to spend $6,000 on the kid. He says, I had no, if it was a year and a half ago, two years ago, I wouldn't be able to do anything with that.

I'd have to figure out a way to make this. I was able to pay that $6,000. He says, to me, capitalism is that. Yeah. That's capitalism. Capitalism isn't another $300,000 watch. Capitalism isn't another half a million dollar. That's capitalism.

Now, what we have to consider, I grew up in a family where my mom was on welfare and we didn't have money. How we help those that don't have access to the resources with parents that maybe you had, like some people don't have that, what do we do with them? Because those parents maybe don't have the resources that we have to figure right away, like I was speaking to a school and they were talking about how can we make our kids A better at processing issues and there's this Director of psychology the schools have in this conversation with me. I said how often do you guys have a Training just for parents. What do you mean like how often do you bring just parents in all together in the auditorium and

Like, how often do you bring just parents in all together, in the auditorium and talk to the parents about how to talk to the kids at night and how to have conversations with them at night? Oh, we never do that. Well, what do you mean you never do that? You know, the ensails, it's about training the trainer. That whole saying, train the trainer, well, who is the trainer here?

The parent, we need to train the trainers, the parents, as much as we're training the kids. I think we're spending way too much time focused on the kids and we're forgetting about the fact that that parent is sitting and without access to resources. Can you just teach me what to do? And by the way, let's just say 600 parents do show up. And let's just say 80% of the parents sit there like this.

Right? And they're not even paying attention to anything you're saying. But say 20% that do, of the 20% that do 20% take notes and go back and apply them. One of the kids ends up becoming a positive impact to society and less person relying on government for tax and resources. We did our part.

So I think there needs to be just as much training with parents as there is with very, very powerful way of serving. I think you're absolutely correct. And you know where it is happening today? It's happening today in the American homeschooling communities. So people think, oh, homeschooling. So if your dad happened to be a pharmacist, maybe he teaches chemistry, you know, the homeschoolers turn to

resources, they have resources, standardized testing, they can get and books and things like that. But then they turn to the other parents, who's the expert on what, and they do some of the teaching for the kids, and they go to each, it's almost like going to class, so we're going to go to Mr. Richardson's house and learn about chemistry, because he's a pharmacist. Well, guess what's also happening? Parents are getting together, and the parents are becoming educated on social issues

and becoming more aware and handling, discovering ADHD, or dyslexia, and how to handle it and manage it. So it happens in the homeschooling environment, because the parents are forming communities, because they know that there's things they don't know, and there's gaps, and they want to learn it. That's where it's happening. And I think, little conspiracy theory, that the society, the left, is less worried about

homeschooling because of vouchers and they're more worried about homeschooling because of voters. Because the parents are being changed. It's not the indoctrination of tomorrow's voters and are being taught wrong. I think the parents are more independent, heads up, and they are learning in groups. That's why I, you know how all these guys right now have courses online.

I do course on marriage. I do course on, you know, such and such. I do whatever. There's different courses you can buy on. You, to me, plural side, all these different things. You know what's a great niche that people can take on right now that will do very well. Small courses on how to lead your kids specific on leading your kids. I don't know how much of that is out there. Anyways, let me go to the next one. I was home. I was home. I got to go. Let me say one

thing that we do here at Value Tame and this is I mean, this is exactly why you do the SLS symposium, the sales leadership symposium is that you talk about you know Why don't they do courses to teach parents same thing you do with train the trainers of PHP Same thing you do with SLS. I assume that's the reason you do that is who's teaching the sales leader to Reinvent themselves right or to by the way you know how much I duplicate themselves You know how much I would do this course, but you say we do a parenting course I do it for 10 bucks, 20 bucks, because you want the masses.

You want people to get it. Hey, here's some strategies that worked on me. Here's some strategies I'm using on my kids. I want to share it with you. We can't rely on the teachers to do it. We got to become better parents. So the idea is to train the parents. If you're up for it, let's go through it.

If you disagree with me, fine? Maybe some of these tactics are going to work for it. I think there is a market for that. Let me lead to the the parents. If you're up for it, let's go through it. If you disagree with me, fine, maybe some of these tactics are going to work for it. I think there is a market for that. Let me lead to the next story. This all confining the kids leads to what? Here's a Daily Mail story. Party like it's 2019. Florida and Florida, they'll expect triple the amount of visitors over the last year. Tens of thousands prepared to celebrate the first spring break in the US free of COVID rules. Thousands of college students and visitors are descending on Florida's beaches, not California, but Florida.

This week to celebrate the first spring break without any coronavirus restrictions in 2019, inhabitants of popular vacation spots, including Cancun Miami, Pensacola, Florida, down the South, Padre Island have to deal with observing never ending crowds of college students, having a good time, often blasting loud music and drinking alcohol from the first week of March until April, starting on Saturday until March 20th.

Many public schools, districts on Florida, including Penn, uh, Penn, uh, Penn, uh, uh, Penn Eels Hillsboro, Pasco, et cetera, et cetera, as well as the last University of Southern Florida. And tap on will be on vacation. Last year's spring break saw 65,000 passengers fly into Tampa Bay International Airport per day during peak weeks. However, in 2020, the number of spring breakers was this morning low in March and April

as they were fewer than 1,500 flights a day versus 65. Thou. So people are about to start partying in Florida. You're on college students a lot. What do you think about the story? I think my youngest sister who I mentioned before, who is a sophomore in college, she's a college basketball player. She came with me down here.

Oh, you're cool. She said, oh, you're going to Fort Lauderdale. That's a free spring break trip for me. So she's here, although I hope some of that debauchery that you just have, she won't be taking part in. If she does, I'll just make her baby. She said, I mean, It's great in a sense. I'm not endorsing some of the spring break footage

that we see out of Florida every year. But it's great that people, young people specifically, who are so prone to be vulnerable to the fear that we were talking about with climate change, are realizing that they don't have to be afraid of COVID. They don't have to stop their lives anymore. They don't have to not associate with other people. They can just do their thing. They can go to school again, they can go party again,

they can go on spring break again. That's a good thing. Florida, of course, has been a leader, a leader in following the science on the COVID regulations. That's why I've come to Florida so many times in the past year to get away from some of the policies in a blue state, but it's good. I was really encouraged to hear the Surgeon General of Florida say that they're not going to encourage vaccines, COVID vaccines for healthy children. That's what the science says. That's really nice here.

You're just to what Jen Sackie said. Yes, she called him a politician. Yeah, so the answer question is so strong. Said he was propagating conspiracies. Yeah, what do you think about Florida, you know, not agreeing with kids taking the vaccine. Do you agree with them? Absolutely not. Was there answer? Absolutely. The science, we have the science, the true science, and the true science tells us that, you know, vaccine for kids. Anyway, so yeah, so that's what's

going to. Found the way to say even death in the next 90 seconds three times It's it's a The currency of fear is very effective. It's worked for centuries You know, it's been used for so many years and they're using it very eloquently But people on Florida, especially with Rhonda Samba. He's getting a lot of did you see him the other day with the whole masculine with the kids? Yeah, I don't appreciate you guys having a mask on. Anyways, if you're gonna wear it, just, you know, this mask figure you got going. So good to be here on Florida.

Did you see their faces when they took the masks off though? They thought there was like one or two that were horrified, but the rest of them were like last year. Yeah, I saw it. But that's what they need. They need a strong leader to tell them like, it's okay to take your face mask off. By the way, things are going to about to get very insane down here in South Florida.

Now, as a true conservative, I very rarely go visit South Beach and party at past midnight. That's something I've definitely not known to do. However, the few times that I have gone down to South Beach during the last few years, like last year I went down and I did a man on the street piece about spring break stimulus spending and it was I was interviewing all the people and it was just all the people that were getting stimulus checks that were just like where

else are they gonna go Florida obviously these weren't necessarily college kids at that time there was with just people getting stimulus checks yo we're going to South Beach we're going to Fort Lauderdale. About to have the time of our lives. That's going to get amplified times 10. Now it's like, you know, the gloves are off. You know, flights are back. We're going to party in South Beach. So just be very, very weary and hopefully your 19 year old sister

doesn't party too hard. Well, I disagree. I disagree. I disagree. I disagree. I disagree with it. However, it's very interesting that Greg Abbott and Rhonda Santas their states are going to get tax revenue visitors and local businesses are getting a lot

of patronage in the hospitality hotels restaurants and things are getting a lot of dollars and Florida in Texas and those entrepreneurs running those places are cash in the chest. What do you mean you disagree with the debauchery? First of all, I disagree with the debauchery stuff, but you've got a, but you have a wave of commerce that's coming to Rhonda Santas and Greg Abbott. First of all, thanks for spring break. When Tom's podcast gets started, his number one sponsor is gonna be a CBD oil company. Or a beer in Tom's gonna say,

today's messages brought to you by CBD oil from Boca Raton, our friends over here, you know, bring the best, best CB anyways. Going back to the battery, when I was in the army, came, four to July, we were at Panama City, okay. Memorial Day, weekend, Panama City. You know, whatever, Labor Day, Panama City, in the army they would call it a Danza,

we would come down here and it was an incredible time. Incredible time. We read a lot of and it was an incredible time. Incredible time. We read a lot of books. We want to talk about local borders and Washington. We were very committed. But it's going to be insane. Yes. It's going to be, I have a feeling it's going to be a bigger number

than they even expected to be, which I'm sure you support that because you probably can't wait to go out there and spend some time with this person. I'll be down there with our friend David doing some interviews at Model volleyball this weekend. If you're in South Florida, come check us out. What's your name? Shout out to her father. What's a Olivia Ormos, my girl. Yeah, she's putting together a model box. You're in South Florida this weekend being Southpeach

from Model volleyball. It's going to be epic, but bizzahak you're not invited because it'll be a little too debatuous for your little taste. Okay, little guy. Alright so here we go he's gonna come back don't worry they just be patient alright so let's talk let's talk a little oil and gas let's talk oil and gas because it is a topic by the way did you see the inflation numbers that just came out this morning 7.9 percent that they're telling us which is the highest in decades 7.9 percent gas prices record breaking guys sent me pick yesterday I was talking about gas, the price of it, everybody sent me a message with what gas prices are in different places.

Beverly Hills, 7.11, for a 10. 7.11? 7.11 in Beverly Hills. Glendale was like 679 to fill up one gallon is 679. What was I go back to it? 7.9% 40 year record that we have. Start on your Instagram. Yeah, so here's Russia with oil. Russia with oil. Okay. I'm going to read two stories back to back and I will comment on it because it's both around

the same thing. One is an insider story and the other one is a CNBC story. So here we go. Number one, opic chief says there's no capacity in the world that could replace Russia's seven million barrels a day in supply. This is an insider story. Russian oil experts are crucial to global supply and there's no sources that can compensate for the millions of barrels the country contributes. Opic secretary general has said so far OPEC and its allies, known as OPEC+. Have shown no interest in rampant production,

leading some analysts to say that this is contributing to the squeeze on supply, the threat on an import ban prompted Russia's deputy minister to issue a warning and predicts oil prices could search to, ready folks, $300 a barrel. And the story right afterwards, the NBC Russia wants to $100 a barrel, it is absolutely clear that a rejection of Russian oil would lead to catastrophic consequences for the global market. Russian deputy prime minister

Alexander Novak said on Monday, let me read this one more time to you. This is a power play. I'm going to read it to you one more time folks. Listen up, this is the Russian deputy prime minister Alexander Novak said on Monday, okay? It is absolutely clear that a rejection of Russian oil would lead to catastrophic consequences for the global market the surgeon prices would be unpredictable It would be $300 per barrel if not, Russia's the third largest oil producer behind US, Saudi but US doesn't count because we're not doing anything Saudi Arabia didn't return a Biden's call when they reached out to him. They just didn't even call him back. And the

European Union received around 40% of its gas via Russian pipelines, several of which run through Ukraine. Once again, EU 40% is through Russia. So thoughts on what's going on with gas prices? Have you seen those stickers that have been popping up all over the country on gas tanks? It's like a little silhouette of Biden pointing to the price that says, I did this. I think that's exactly correct. This is not Russia's fault. This is Biden's fault. This is Biden's fault because he could have prevented what's happening between Russia and Ukraine. This is not something that just arbitrarily happened. This is a result.

The war that's happening between Russia and Ukraine right now is a result of deliberate actions taken by Joe Biden. And what I mean by that is just a couple of months ago, if he had stopped the key, or if he had stopped the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, if he had put sanctions, like Trump did on that pipeline, then Russia would have backed off. Biden personally lobbied Democratic senators not to reimpose those sanctions. So what happens? Obviously, then Putin is emboldened

because he knows that there are countries like Germany who rely on him for energy, meaning they're not going to criticize him when he commits a war act against the Ukrainians, right? But it goes even deeper than that. It goes deeper than that because Russian money has been funding the environmentalist agenda in our country for years.

And this is not like exclusive journalism that I'm presenting to you. This is actually something we have known about. And when I say we, I mean, our government officials, back in 2017, there were two Republican congressmen. The story is so fascinating to me. There were two Republican congressmen, Smith and Weber, who sent a letter to Secretary of the Treasury Mnuchin saying, listen, we have evidence that Russian state money is going

through a shell company in Bermuda. The shell company is called Cline Limited. And Cline Limited is then giving, as anonymous donations, to a 501-C3 here in the United States, giving this money to an organization called C-Change. C-Change is then disseminating this money to prominent anti-fraking, anti-fossil fuel, so-called green organizations here in our country. And the purpose of this is like Vladimir Putin

has been planning this attack on Ukraine for a long time. This has been a long time in the preparation because this has worked, this lobbying has worked. This has been a long time in the preparation, because this has worked. This lobbying has worked. It has caused states across our country to ban fracking. It's caused Biden to take his stance

against fracking against using our natural resources against the federal leases. And the result of this has been, well, of course, when we turn to wind or solar or anything alternative or renewable, it, we still rely on coal. We still rely on oil, right? Even with this green energy, but when we need to wind or solar or anything alternative or renewable, we still rely on coal. We still rely on oil, right? Even with this green energy, but when we need to rely on oil and we're not producing

it ourselves, we have to rely on Russian oil. And that gives, that gives a position of leverage to Vladimir Putin. He knows that he can invade Ukraine and that nobody can really do anything about it because they rely on him. And so when I see, I know this is a long answer to your short question of, please rant about the gas prices, but this is not something that just arbitrarily happened. This is not something that happened overnight. This is the result of deliberate, bad, corrupt choices by our politicians for a long time.

For a long time. I see what John Bolton had to say about this situation. You know who John Bolton is, right? The National Security Advisor. Of course. And those famous must-ass. Yeah, the must-ass. John Bolton had to say about this situation. You know who John Bolton is, right? The National Security Advisor. And those famous mustache. Yeah, the mustache. The Walrus man who was Trump's national security advisor.

Now you might say they've had a falling out, but he's certainly a Republican. He's certainly part of that community. For sure, he said, quote unquote, that they were asked why did, this is his thoughts, not mine. Why did Putin delay this invasion of Ukraine? He said, quote unquote, Putin delayed the invasion

of Ukraine because Putin saw what Trump was doing, was doing a lot of his dirty work for him. That Trump was basically being hostile towards NATO. And he basically thought that if he won a second term, there was a chance that Trump would pull out of NATO. So Putin was basically just biting his time, you know, play on words right there, biting his time to see if Trump would actually pull out of NATO. Now whether he was going to do that or not, there was no doubt that he was hostile to

NATO towards NATO and this is sort of separate from the gas prices, but this is a direct answer to why Putin chose this time. But this was John Bolton's opinion. Do you have any strong feelings on what John Bolton has to say? What do you say? Well, John Bolton and Donald Trump are on opposite ends of the Republican Party.

And what I mean by that is there's a division, especially when it comes to foreign policy, there's interventionists like John Bolton, they're like, you're certainly not a dove. He's a definitely war. No, he wants to bomb a rear. He wants not a dove. He's a definitely war. No, he wants to borrow. He wants to attack Iran. He's a 100%.

I mean, he would admit this. This isn't even a thing. He said it on the camera. Yeah, this is. Yeah. And then Donald Trump was very much national interest. He called it America first.

It's really a Reagan foreign policy, but he didn't want to get involved anywhere unless he has to, unless it's in our direct national interest. It's actually closer to the isolationist end of the spectrum. I think. I think John Bolton actually misses the point here. I don't think that Trump was hostile to NATO. I think that that was a negotiation tactic to get NATO members to pay their fair share. The U.S. has been paying the majority of dues to NATO for a long time, and all of these other countries have been freeloaders. They've been taking advantage of us as they have

enough money. They've just been using it for their own domestic welfare systems and just allowing the US to do it because we would to pay this amount because we would. And so Trump is calling them out. He's forcing them, he's threatening them as a negotiation tactic. And sure, he probably meant it all good negotiation. Like when you make a threat like that, you have to follow through or it's not a real threat. People can sense that. But I don't think that he ever had any real intention of pulling out of NATO. I think

that he was just using this to get people to pay and it worked. They did pay. Well, John, you, you expect John to say anything about Trump? You expect Bolton to say anything good about Trump right now? You know, you know, he was his national security adviser. Exactly. But that, but that same thing with Bill Barr now, same thing with the fence now. Yeah. He has these people that are sick offense to him. And then next thing you know they're out and they talk shit about him. It just seems to be a common theme is all I'm saying. Right. But you step back to where this topic started, which was on, you know, international oil prices. There is a cold war that's been going on for us 25 years

since in the price of oil. It is a cold war that's going on between Saudis and the US, between Saudis and Venezuela, between the cheaters that are in OPEC, they're shipping and not telling the other OPEC people. Remember, it was a Saudis that wanted to cripple Alberta oil sands and North Dakota oil sand and shale oil by keeping the price of a barrel at $45. They acted against their own total profit and pulled the price all the barrel at $45. They acted against their own total profit and pulled the price all the way down there. Now why'd they do that? Well, they do that because Alberta and North Dakota

were not economically feasible oil extraction below $50 in barrel. Now, with the price for barrel up, this is exact time her Biden can flip the switch on energy independence. Where does Canada get 100% of its natural gas? Us, United States. Now you can sit back and say, you know what, let's loosen up on this. Let's loosen up on it. And Saki, yesterday, that was a terribly disingenuous answer that she gave on this whole energy question. Well,

they have the leases. Leases is not a permit. A permit takes forever in Washington. A leases is that you have a right to drill once you get a permit to drill, but the permits live in Washington and they the green drag feet on that. So when you look around on the oil stuff pat, this has been going back and forth for a while. And the Putin's three-step process here also was benefiting the price and the need for the Russian oil. But we got to also realize why those Saudis didn't return to Biden's phone call. By the way, I'm going to say that. They've been playing with us for a while as well.

I'm not laughing, but it's not funny. It's not funny, but I'm going to read the story to you. So Saudi UAE leaders declined calls with Biden, Amid Ukraine conflict. This is a Hill story. Yesterday, two days ago, there were some expectation of phone call, but it didn't happen. A US official told the Wall Street Journal Journal regarding a call between Biden and Saudi

Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, it was part of turning on the spigot of Saudi oil. UAE leader Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed also declined a call from Biden. Officials say the U.S. relations with the two Gulf countries have been strained over the Biden administration's lack of support in the Warren Yemen and the revived negotiation concerning the Iran nuclear deal. Saudi Arabia has also been pushing for legal immunity in the US for Crown Prince Mohammed who is accused of killing a journalist in 2018. So you got to realize foreign relations is for people to pick up your calls to talk to you and do something with you.

So these guys, when is the last time you heard a story that somebody says, yeah, you asked, you know, you're historically been the greatest country in the world. The president wants to talk to you. You know what, I'm going to keep playing this Xbox. Just tell Biden I'll call him back later. Maybe send him a message or something, some flowers, but we got some things to do. And then you hear, you hear the questions. People say, yes, prices is all because of Russia.

Okay, if you can pull back what you had, the three pictures I sent you, the two, yeah. David, if you can pull this one up, and they say gas prices is because of Russia. Okay, that's when Biden was sworn in. Okay, gas prices were 230, 240. Do you see that? That's when he was sworn in. Okay gas prices were 230 240. Do you see that? That's when he was sworn in. Okay. Putin invaded when gas prices were at 351. This is not a Russia thing folks. This went from 240 to 350. That's a buck 10 on 240. That's 45%. It went up in a year and a half, a little over a year and a half, two years

during the administration. Is that a byproduct of what's going on there? Now, if you look at it now, when from 351 to 412 and it's going to get higher, I see this thing getting higher. I've already made my prediction seven, eight months ago where I said gas prices are going to hit 10 bucks a gallon. And some are even saying right now it's going to hit 15 bucks a gallon. By the way, there's a video. Can you go to the next slide so they can see some of the pictures? This is Glendale, California 669 go to the next one. This is Beverly Hills Can you zoom in a little bit so people can see it? It's 729 for a 91 in Beverly Hills There's a gas station right across the street John Reed was telling a story

Yes, it in the P.B.D. podcast prep meeting He said the guys telling me fill up your gas tank Now while it's 419 it's gonna be 490 by midnight and by later on tonight fill it up right now There's a person that did a video Standing in front of a gas station recording a video See in the prices go 401 402 403 404 404 404 Live the recording it while they're filling up the tank the prices per gallon is going up while it's filling up the tank

Crazy this looks like a stock your the gas price on the tank is like a stock market It's like a stock market so the guys are telling you buy and fill up your tank now We should teach our kids supply and demand can you back to the Biden chart real quick? Thank you, T take a look at the immediate you see how the curve immediately jumps after the inauguration pat It's like real steep and then it kind of levels out the reason it did that was this okay No more keystone and limiting American drilling that creates what a shortage in supply actually reduces supply Which increases price so the economy works exactly the way, but that was him cow-towing to the greens on Keystone pipeline and drilling in the US

and you saw immediately upon being inaugurated he put pressure on the American people on the gas prices immediately it just jumps up and then it's a more gentle increase until the big fund starts with Ukraine. Who, who, who hurts this the most? Who's hurting right now with this? The average, the average, the low the, the low income people, obviously.

You know, I'll, I'll go one step further. The lower cost housing is farther from city center, but the jobs are in city center. The commuting times hits the middle and lower class worse than it does the upper class. And so when this happens, you're hurting the people that can least afford it. Yeah, why is it that politicians who create policies to help the low and middle income are the

ones that end up directly and indirectly hurting the community that they claim that they want to help? Can you go to my Twitter profile yesterday Bernie Sanders said something about how much money the billionaires and whatever millionaires made in the last 12 to 18 months during the pandemic. I don't know if you can pull it up. Anyways, I respond to him saying this is a, again, byproduct of, I'll just read it to you right here since you're printing the money. Here's what I told him.

So he said this is a, this is oligarchy. This is Greek. This is oligarchy. This is Greek. This is callousness. Last year, over two million, go to what he had to say, go to his tweet and then you'll go back, right there. Yeah. This is callousness. Last year, over two million, can you zoom in a little bit

so audience can see it? Over two million people worldwide died of hunger. At the same time, the world's 2.2, 2755 billionaires, saw their net worth or wealth go up five trillion. From 8.6 trillion to 13.8 trillion This is why we need a tax on wealth. Okay, now go back in this is my response is three parts I said that's what happens when you print money and give handouts to people who don't know how to manage money

They buy products from companies started by entrepreneurs money flows up stimulus money rolled up to billionaires Did love another round Bernie go a little lower? And then I said, step number one, of helping low and middle income families is to teach them how money works, teach them how to create an additional source of income, teach them to read the right books instead of watching Netflix,

which politician is talking about that today? No one, go below, and the last one, why not? Because vote, because those votes may start thinking for themselves. If we truly care about the low and middle income families, let's help them graduate the poverty mindset instead of being stuck there. That's what great leaders do. They leave you better than they found you.

This leads me to the story of $1.5 trillion. They want to print again. So I don't know if you guys saw this story. Page number six, if you want to go to it, lawmakers reach a deal on $1.5 trillion spending bill to avoid shutdown and aid to Ukraine. Congressional leaders reached a bipartisan deal, whoever early Wednesday on a one and a half trillion dollar spending bill needed to avert a government shutdown, the legislation includes 13.6 billion dollars aid to Ukraine, folks, that's kind of like us getting a hundred thousand dollar loan and I say I'm here to help you and I give you

13,000 dollars, okay? That's hey not 13,000 dollars 1300 dollars, so I get a hundred thousand dollar loan This I'm doing this for you because your family. I care about you guys so much Ukraine. We really want to help you Here's a hundred thousand dollars we get. I give you 1300 bucks You create like 13.6 billion eight to Ukraine or European allies and15.6 billion of funding for COVID-19 vaccines. Testing, treatments in the United States and abroad. President Biden had to request a $10 billion also, Ukraine and European allies. And $22.5 billion for COVID relief. lawmakers face a Friday deadline to pass the spending measure and avoid a weekend government shutdown. Let's

print some more money, Tom. What do you think about this? I think it's horrible. I just did the math on this. So basically, everybody listening, average Americans, 13.6 billion to Ukrainian and European allies. Okay, there's a war going on over there. It's very, very important. But every man, woman, and nipple sucking child in this country just gave $418 to Ukraine. Every one of them.

So when you start to put it in that thing, you say, wow, we did. Yep. And you take 1.5 trillion, that's basically, what's that, $4,600? This is crazy. I mean, this is debt ceiling. You know, if my mom had never said this to me,

hey kids, listen, part of your inheritance, you have to inherit our credit card and deal with it and pay it off. And to avert a family shutdown, we're increasing the credit limit by 10 grand so that your dad and I can take an anniversary trip to Hawaii. So, I would have been like, wait, can you get back to the part where I inherit your credit card? So, if you were to put it that way, let's make a story about perspective, Tom.

Make a story about, for six years old, your parents said, we're going to increase the debt ceiling for the family. So your dad and I can go to Hawaii. Wonderful, John. And then when we die, remember, you're responsible for the credit card because debt never dies. What do you think about the story? I think it's actually bigger than that because I don't think that there's an expectation from the left at least that we are all or

our children are all actually going to pay this. You guys know what modern monetary theory is. Modern monetary theory is this very radical leftist philosophy that you don't have to worry about the debt or the deficit that you can do. That a government when the government is the issuer of the currency can and should just print as much money as they need, and that the deficit and the debt are just a historical record of how much has been printed. And I think modern monetary policy is something that has actually been happening in our country for obviously not just this administration, not just liberal administrations actually

bush, Obama, Trump, now Biden, all of these administrations have spent an exorbitant amount of money. But what happens is under modern monetary policy not only is that obviously an elite economic ruin. That's almost the secondary part of it. The point of modern monetary policy is so that politicians at the federal level in our legislature don't have to ask themselves the questions, how do we fund our pet projects? We have this ideological, smorgasbord in a bill like this.

We don't have to actually sit here and debate in front of the American people. Where do we get the money from this? Is this worth spending your paycheck on? All they have to do is print the money. So this modern monetary policy, by the way, one of the propagators of modern monetary policy, one of the lead thinkers on this is named Stephanie Keltin. Stephanie Keltin is an advisor to the Biden administration and was an advisor to both Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden during their campaigns. So this modern monetary policy is acknowledged and embraced by the Biden administration. They just

hope that you won't notice. They hope you won't notice because this is the way they push their agenda through. This is the way that it can never be rolled back. Because our legislators then don't actually have to take into consideration whether they're being wise, whether people want their money spent on A, B, or C policy, whether they want it spent on the green new deal, or whether they want it spent on Medicare for all, or whether they want it spent on Ukraine. They don't have to, our legislators never have to debate that because people, in a sense, don't touch that. They, yes, we will have economic ruin eventually, but right now it's just their way of pushing through their agenda and so when I see when I see a bill like that

I immediately think well They're gonna print the money because that's the way that they push their own agenda unless we stop their ability to print that money They're gonna keep doing things like this. Can you talk a little bit more about her? Is she one of the proponents of like great reset or Jubilee or inflate out infinity? She is she is she is yeah So she she's a professor college a college professor, and she. I mean, she just speaks probably more bluntly than anyone else that I've heard about modern monetary theory being completely dismissive of the idea that you would ever have to pay back. You would ever have to pay back

what you're spending or that. She actually admits that taxation under modern monetary theory isn't about increasing revenue for government to pay for whatever projects they have. She thinks that taxation is a form of control. That taxation is a way to ensure that people don't ditch the US dollar because they see that this spending increases, or devalues the dollar, it increases inflation. She says taxation is just a way to make sure that people stay using our currency because you have to earn the US dollar in order to pay the US dollar as taxes. And to me, that was the most shocking admission. Sometimes if you listen, no, it doesn't work, but this is what the people in charge of our country are doing right now. If you dig into it, I find it to be incredibly fascinating, but also incredibly frightening. Well, you know whose name we're about to hear that we haven't heard in about a month, right?

Joe Manchin. Because obviously this, you know, for people not familiar how bills work, right? Or how laws get passed, or how stimulus, you know, bills end up getting in the hands of the American people, they started in the house. That does not mean that it's gonna pass the Senate. And everything that we've saw with the, you know,

all the proposals that have been put together in the house and then poem, the mansions of the world and the cinemas of the world doesn't happen and then, you know, all those side conversations that really haven't amounted to much. So, you know, we get caught up in the headlines and this is what they're going to do. This is what we're going to spend and by no means is this actually happening. So don't be surprised if you hear Joe Manchin, name the news again. I hope so. Circle the wagons with Joe Manchin.

Well, first of all, this mid-year midterms is gonna be, I mean, it's nothing is getting better and better. You know what is also scary? They missed out on the, this is gonna sound crazy when I tell you this, they missed out on the marketing opportunity of saying COVID is done. So the way they did it, even as a marketing strategy, you didn't do it the right way. The Ukraine issue, the Bakal, that's taken place

over there, they were not able to capitalize off the marketing opportunity for Biden, a Fauci and all of them to come out and say, folks, great news. After extensive strategies with our COVID relief team and, you know, vaccines and all this other stuff, everything's going back to normal. We are leaving the mask and we're leaving this a move like that. If they would have done that two months ago or even six weeks ago, that would have helped them for midter or even six weeks ago, that would

have helped them for midterms. It's almost as if their marketing strategy is not even a smart marketing strategy. Because everything right now is what? So let's just say midterms come up. What are people voting for? Gas prices. What else am I voting for? Inflation?

What else am I voting for? A war? What else am I? What do you, what victory do you have? They have no victory? We're they're gonna pay price for it I'm a marketing Smart

They just tried the disappearing act with Anthony Fauci all of a sudden do you notice he was just gone from the air? Yeah, he's such a really good point was the last time you saw Fauci that's not a good marketing strategy I was surprised Biden didn't Basically declare that COVID was over during a state of the union I thought he was especially because in New York the governor said listen We're gonna take mass mandates out of school kids aren't gonna have to wear that anymore She announced that on Monday, but instead of saying it's gonna go into effect tomorrow She said Wednesday and I thought oh well Biden's gonna be the one to announce that in the state of the new

He didn't he didn't touch on it. Maybe because, I mean, the American people have seen the light in a certain sense. They're, yes, you're going to see people wearing masks voluntarily for years to come, a certain percentage of people. But Fauci has dipped out of the spotlight as the spotlight has turned to those biological labs in Ukraine.

Because that's the part, regardless of whether you feel the fear about the virus, people don't like corruption and politicians, and they don't like that Fauci through the NIH funded the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which perhaps this virus was tinkered with in that lab. They do not like that. And this looks like it could be happening again in Ukraine with the biological weapons labs that the U.S. is kind of trying to defend against right now but can't.

Tyler is there something you're excited about? You want to give a shout out to our friends at the Babylon B? We love these guys. So attention star Dr. Fauci agrees to box Jake Paul. What a picture right there. Oh, that's horrifying. Those guys do a phenomenal job. Well, so this is just fantastic.

This is just anecdotal. Wait, 95. You know what I got in the mail. What's that last week? What? My government issued COVID testing kit came in the mail last week. Like we're done with COVID, right? Everybody kind of agrees it's just off the radar. And sure enough, when I, when nobody needs it, right,

we all get our government. Did you order it or did it just get sent to you? Just got sent to me. It just showed up in the mail. I was like, I got a package wanting to't know where it came from and it out comes. You know, I'm offended. I haven't gotten one yet. It really hurts my feelings.

But by the way, this whole gas thing, you know what it's doing? It's what's crazy with this one. If you can pull up the picture on this, this is a Fox News story. Gas theft on the rise as gas prices skyrocket. While gas prices continue to hit record highs, some people in Southern California are now resorting to gasoline theft.

A Fox 11 viewer shared photos of what happened to a vehicle. A thief drilled a hole in the fuel tank draining all the gas, triple a CNA rise in gas, siphoning and theft across the country. And now they're warning car owners about how to keep their vehicles safe. This is a sign of the times you know, Traplay Doug, Shoeops said, it steves looking for ways that they can make money by stealing what is becoming an increasingly more expensive and valuable commodity gasoline.

Monogarcia says she's fed up with the prices. It used to be $60. They didn't want to $70. I think two weeks ago was $90. So I'm thinking this might hit $70. I think two weeks ago was $90. So I'm thinking this might hit $100. She said while filling up her car Monday as she feared she spent $100 to fill up the tank. I see a set her camera and a flood light in her driveways. Any would be thieves from taking gas from the tank. Pretty crazy. That's getting to a point that people are now stealing gas from cars. This happened to us. My husband and I lived in California for eight years. We lived in San Diego. And this was before the inflation, although gas has always been crazy expensive there.

He has a project car. It's a 1988 Camaro, Iraq Z, that he would do projects on a parked it in our driveway, which was outside and we came out. I think it was on a weekend. He had parked it there on a Friday night and we came out the next morning. And there was still like the tube that the thief had used his siphon the gas that was hanging out

of the tank of his gas. I think this is as much as the red one, but it doesn't have a teatop. It's a convertible. Listen to me talking to these car terms. Thank you. Does it have a teatop? It's a hit me, you know. Hey, I listen to what he says. The teatop isn't the engine atom. It's the top of the vehicle. Yeah, I know. You know what's crazy. Here's what cool car. The top isn't the engine atom. It's the top of the vehicle. Yeah, I know. You know what's crazy. Here's what's crazy. So you would think you don't have a T-top of the engine.

OK, you don't think inflation typically would cause gas oil. What do you call it? Gold to go up. And it hasn't printing money would cause gold to go up. And it hasn't. Peter Schiff must be furious right now because oil has gone up and it hasn't printing money with cause gold to go up and he hasn't. Peter Schiff must be furious right now because oil has gone up and gold stained flat. It's gone up a little bit, not at the number z, you know, people are expecting oil is beating gas folks, oil is beating gold as of right now.

Anyways, are you guys okay if we cover this a bio lab story? I don't want to offend you guys if we go into what's going on here with the bio lab? Can we do a last bit on gas real quick. You want to you want to say something go ahead. Yeah, we're the highest state gas taxes in a nation California, there you go So 2020 half percent so Sacramento is benefiting or not benefiting from these high gas prices They're benefiting. Thank you very much. Yeah, by the way, you know what they could do is somebody yesterday So I'm trying to see was I want to give him credit somebody said yesterday to me. They text me and they, you know what they could do is somebody yesterday, so I'm trying to see what I want to give him credit. Somebody said yesterday to me, they text me, and they said, you know, if they really care

about middle America so much, all they have to do is remove the gas taxes. It'll go back down to normal, and they can do that for 90 days, but no, they're not going to do because they want the taxes. They want that tax money. Yeah, California has taken a lot of money from people. We take you now to the French laundry

for a comment from Gavin Newsom. So let me give you a story by Reuters about bio-lapse. And this has been going back and forth. Even USA Today came out talking about, was it Governor Wilson proposed his tax rebate for California as a state deals with nation's highest gas prices? That's good for him. So he's actually actually wanted to do something about it. Good for you. I think that's a can you you can you make that bigger? I want to actually read this on what he's doing. Okay. They edited the headline. It used to say Gavin Newsom comma concerned about midterms comma proposals tax rebate for California. We see this you can't remember something. Make it a little bit bigger than MacGregor government's not a state of the internet.

It's just Tuesday night. The chemical gross California's for the price. Russia, you invasion, Ukraine, hikes after. Okay, God, a new sum said he is planning to submit a revised budget to state legislative that would put money back in California's pockets to address rising gas prices, but he did not immediately offer any

details of how them. Okay, by the way, if he does this, we will give him credit if he does. Nationwide, the average gas prices regular gallon reached 417 on Monday, breaking a previous record in 20 2008,

but in California, the average gas prices are 544 according to AAA. That's crazy. That's crazy. 544 according to AAA. So what's this story with biolabs? Adam, have you been following the story with biolabs? Here's a Reuters story. Russia says, US has biolabs with plague and anthrax in Ukraine. US calls claim absurd. Russia said on Wednesday the United States must explain that what Moscow claims was a military biological program in Ukraine. An allegation Washington has already dismissed as absurd misinformation. Russian foreign minister spokesperson Maria Zakarovas said evidence of the alleged program

has been uncovered by Russia during what it calls its military operation in Ukraine it involved. Deadly pathogens, including plague and anthrax, she said, Zakharovah, said Russia had documents showing that the Ukrainian health ministry had ordered the destruction of samples of plague, cholera anthrax, and other pathogens after February 24th. Now let me read the next story to you on Biden officials say, you are working with Ukraine to prevent bio research facilities from falling into Russian hands. Ukraine has biological research facilities, which is fact, we now are quite concerned Russia troops, Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of. So we are working with the Ukrainians

on how we can prevent any of the research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces. on how we can prevent any of the research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces, should they approach? Okay, so that is being said by Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland. Okay, the response came in regards to question from Senator Marco Rubio who asked, does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?

Follow Nuland's response, Rubio, to continue to ask the question whether she had any doubt that they did or not. There is no doubt in my mind Senator and it's classic Russia Technique to blame on the other guy what they're planning to do themselves, okay? And then some of it links back to Obama, but I'll pause right now if you guys got any thoughts on this go ahead Yeah, so a couple of things can be true at the same time. I like I just you. Yes. So this is this this document that I just air dropped. This is from the US Embassy in Ukraine April of 2020. Two years ago, I found this document

and scrolled on a little bit to what this press release says if you wouldn't mind. Yeah, so it says the US Embassy would like to set the record straight regarding disinformation spreading in some circles in Ukraine that mirrors Russian disinformation regarding the strong US Ukraine partnership to reduce biological threats. But then listen to what they say. Here in Ukraine, the U.S. Department of Defense's biological threat reduction program works with the Ukrainian government to consolidate and secure pathogens and toxins of security concern in Ukraine government facilities while allowing for peaceful research and vaccine development.

That, my friends, is, first of all, in admission that there are biological labs, biological weapons labs in Ukraine. But the reason it's so euphemistic is because once biological weapons research was sort of banned, they still, our government still does this. They just do it under the guise of being bio-defense. And you can tell when there's a sentence like that, they literally said the U.S. Department of Defense works with the Ukrainian government for peaceful research. Like, define to me what peaceful research is because if peaceful research is the same type of research that the U.S. was involved in funding and the Wuhan Institute

of Virology, then we have a very different definition of peaceful here. So I think that there is for almost certain evidence that there are biological labs in Ukraine. That being said, that can be true and it can also be true that if there is a biological weapons attack that happens in Ukraine, it is almost certainly from Russia. Those two things can be true at the same time. That's a very good point. I'll read this next story about President Obama. Deleted web pages show, Obama led an effort to build a Ukraine-based bio lab handling,

especially dangerous pathogens. This is a national Paul story two days ago. The leading web article recovered by national pause revealed the former President Barack Obama spearheaded an agreement leading to construction of biolabs handling, especially dangerous pathogens that Ukraine originally posted June 18 of 2010. The article biolab opens in Ukraine details how Obama, while serving as an Illinois Senator helped negotiate a deal to build a level 3 biose volunteer, as a volunteer, as a volunteer, as a volunteer, as a volunteer, as a volunteer, as a volunteer, as a volunteer, as a volunteer, as a volunteer,

as a volunteer, as a volunteer, as a volunteer, as a volunteer, as a volunteer, as a volunteer, as a volunteer, as a volunteer, as a volunteer, as a volunteer, as a volunteer, as a volunteer, So I got a very different question for you guys. Very different question for the two of you. So what is the, from the other side, some people are asking this question, what is the big deal with this? Meaning, if the enemy in China, the one with Wuhan lab, that's very problematic, because you're funding the enemy to come up

with certain bio-warfare. But if a lot lot of people the next war is gonna be cyber and it's gonna be bio shouldn't we get smarter in this area shouldn't we invest some money to research and get better at this I guess what I'm asking is why are people being oh no no no we didn't oh no no no we don't why are people so worried is there a guideline that you cannot do that is there a maybe I'm missing something is No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, or not based on what the international community thinks versus what's in our best interest. There's certainly an argument that could be made that says, well, it's in our best interest to have bio weapons, right? Like, I think that's a perfectly valid argument.

I probably would agree with that. But because it's against, because it's against the law right now, because, you know, the gain of function research is against the law, this juicing up of viruses or toxins to make them more transmissible and more lethal to weaponize them. Because this is against the law, this juicing up of viruses or toxins to make them more transmissible and more lethal to weaponize them. Because this is against the law, it's really shocking when people hear that the government is violating the law for their own interest.

I mean, that was the problem with Fauci, right? This is actually why I think Fauci has disappeared from the airwaves because what's happening in Ukraine is just another example of Fauci pretending that he's not engaging in bio weapons research, he's just doing it under the guise of bio-defense because remember, at the NIH and the NIA ID, which is the sub-agency that Fauci's in charge of at the NIH, they control, I'm not joking, literally billions of dollars as it pertains to bio-defense spending. So any bio-defense funding in our country, Fauci's finger is in this.

And this is, I mean, it's a scandal. Great, great point. And by the way, I don't like that we're doing it in Ukraine. I don't like it that we're doing it in China. I don't like it that that's being done. And this that you just post up right here, Tyler, the biological weapon convention, BWC, is a legally binding treaty that outlaws biological arms

after being discussed and negotiating. The United Nations disarm inform starting in 1969, convention, BWC is a legally binding treaty that outlaws biological arms after being discussed and negotiating. United Nations disarm inform starting in 1969, the BWC opened for signature on April 10, 1972 and entered into force on Marchion, United States, that's 183 state parties including Palestine and four signatories, Egypt, Haiti, Somalia, Syria, Tanzania, 10 states that have neither signed nor ratified the BWC chat. None of those are big states out to them. Okay, terms of BWC. Okay, so so this says you can't do it.

But now how much has it changed since then? Who's holding up to this? Who's committing to this? And quite frankly, do you know when people say this Iran have a nuclear weapon? You know the whole conversation about this. Iran have a nuclear weapon. I asked the question How can you really audit whether they do or not?

Like let's just ask that question. How can you do it? Iran's not a small country. How do you go figure out whether they have it or not? You don't think they have some creative places to be able to have a nuclear weapon. You don't think they're currently working on it You think they do it in a structure with glass windows for people from the outside. Like, you know how you go to New York and you look at CNN, studio, or Fox, and it's a glass, you can see somebody doing the show. You think they work on weapons like that with glass windows for audience. They say, oh, awesome. Look at this. We have a nuclear bomb being built. You guys are so awesome. Can I take a picture of my kids here's a selfie? So if they're doing it,

do we not think America is doing it? Quite frankly, I don't know if I would be comfortable with this. And here's why. Let me tell you why I wouldn't be comfortable with this. And it kind of goes to the second amendment with me. Your your your pro second amendment. Yeah. Okay. I am to right. This essentially is a form of a second amendment argument. Here's why. Samu to bull Bulgravano said something very interesting to me. Samuida Bulgravano is a former gangster. He's, you know, being accused of, no, he actually went for 19, 19 murders, right?

That are linked to him. He said the following to me about second amendment. He says, listen, me as a gangster, go ahead and ban all guns. Go ahead and ban all weapons. Guess what? I'm gonna get guns. I'm and ban all weapons. Guess what? I'm gonna get guns. I'm gonna find a way to have a gun.

Go ahead and do your background checks and all the stuff you wanna do. I promise you I'm gonna have a gun, right? Okay. Can we agree that there's a lot of countries worldwide that can't stand America? That if we apply the same concept right here with second amendment to you nothing

the bad guys are saying oh yeah yeah yeah let's ban biological you know labs and research yeah yeah let's do it you're right wink we're gonna follow your guidelines check check and then they're gonna go and say the hell are these naive people doing behind closed doors everybody's working on this because what happened the last two years to the world? Was that not a, you know, a, not putting a link to China or whoever was that not a biological crisis? Whoever it was, and we have to still do the investigation,

was that not a biological crisis that it spread and stopped the entire world? So for me, with Ukraine, of course, not. What China absolutely not. But do I kind of want my military to get stronger and invest into studying these types of things that could potentially take our lives and have the population can be lost and we're not prepared for it. And we're going to say, oh, we were following the rules. No, the other guy wasn't following the rules, and we need to renegotiate this still ASAP

because we're not gonna sit here like a bunch of naive, you know, God fearing people, oh, everything's gonna work out. No, only the paranoid survive. Cyber warfare is gonna make people's life a hell. We already experienced what happened with bio. I don't know, I'm going to complete different direction. I may be fully wrong.

No, I am. I am. You're absolutely right. Yeah. You're absolutely right. And if you go take a look at arm's reduction treaties, and you can go back to Carter and Reagan on this, salt and salt too, strategic arm's limitation talks. It's the same bumper sticker that the NRA uses, and it's right. If guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. It's the same thing. If you make a treaty like this, and by the way, it was found out in the transition between Gorbachev and Trenyeko, right? Remember this?

Trenyeko was a complete drunk. True. And they weren't concerned about his finger on their form of the nuclear football that the president carries around. And they were concerned about deterioration of the Russian nuclear missiles that were happening in silos, because they were poorly built.

And that's where it was. And so basically what you have is the bad guys will continue to work against the good guys. Pat, you're absolutely right. And it's not about the second amendment. It's that no treaty made with Russian on salt or salt too was not violated by the Russians. It is a historical fact. They opened up silos. They looked at them and the whole USSR, you know, fell became Russia able to look at this or like that thing's deteriorating in there that thing can go off right here You can destroy one third of this little surrounding area this way and then Chernobyl reactor was one example of it We have to be doing research, but unfortunately the good guys end up having to do it by proxy You have to go and have labs

Because the good guys that do have glass buildings Well, that's also the problem though turn to the proxy right and the proxies are dangerous people like the Chinese Communist or the Ukrainians, I mean say what you will about the resistance the courage of Ukrainian people right now, that's fine, but Ukraine is a corrupt nation. They're not a functional democracy. They are not someone that we should be sharing, in my opinion, bio weapons information with. There's also, I know I keep coming back to the corruption, but there's a corruption that can't be ignored too when the same person who is giving money to, you know, when not to be vague here, when Fauci gives money to eco-health alliance and they give money

to the Wuhan Institute of Virology to do this exact gain-of-function research, when that same agency that Fauci helms profits from a vaccine that supposedly, supposedly, addresses this virus. Like, that's a level of corruption and vulnerability for profit off of, you know, mass death that I don't think the American people want to ignore. No, and by the way, what I'm for is let's investigate, you know, I'm for Innocent until

Proving guilty. Just a small let, you know, everybody was saying who he was. I don't know if you see what's going on with him right now. He's trying to get back onto TV and acting and all this other stuff. But everybody jumped to conclusions saying, oh my gosh, you know, Trump's campaign innocent until proving guilty, we should hope if that happened to the guy, freaking terrible. That's a terrible situation. And we find out, no, that was all a fluke.

Did you see, did you want to say something? Well, I was just going to say, we kind of glossed over the incompetence here that the Biden administration has had over a year to prepare for a Russian invasion of Ukraine. Russia started moving troops to the border in March of 2021, if not earlier, and we're just now worrying about the level three Biolaab and to evacuate it and get the deadly pathogens out of it. Are you kidding me?

Like what are these people doing? This is incompetence of the highest level. These things should have been handled a year ago. And it should have, when the question came up and the congressional hearing, Victoria Nuland should have said, yes, it's been taken care of. We handled six months ago, seven months ago.

What is that one scene in Godfather where they try to kill Marlon Brando? Do you know that one scene where they have to come and retaliate because you can't show weakness? Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. The scene, right? Okay. So everybody's watching to see how you handle somebody going after your number one guy. And they went after Biden, Taliban did, and they got what they want. And everybody said, well, Marlon Brando and his camp didn't do anything. Well, when they after went after Trump, and they came after US, Rasam Soleimani, the number

two guy was gone. So Iran's like, let's shoot an empty place and act like we retaliated. They didn't do nothing. Why? Okay. So in sports, you wanted to things like Kobe when we had a mom, Kobe said, I said, Kobe, you know, if Shack had your work, it would have been, who would he have been?

He says, what? He would have been the greatest basketball player of all time. The greatest of all time. I said why? He says because he was vicious. He was physical. Most big guys are not intimidating, but he didn't care. He would push you.

He would hit you. He would do all this stuff, right? Okay. So Shaq, Trump, they had a reputation of what? You do this? I'm retaliating. You're gonna hear from you, right? So imagine all of a sudden you try to teach a center like Roy Hibber. Hey, I want you to be a tough guy Guys look dude. I've never been a tough guy. I'm just tall. What are you? I'm gonna do I'm seven to don't blame me for being seven to I'm just not a tough guy Okay, I'm gonna beat you. There's no dude Roy relax bro. Chill out. You're a nice guy. You're not a bad guy, right?

Okay, I'm gonna beat you. Dude, really, relax bro, chill out, you're a nice guy. You're not a bad guy, right? Viten doesn't know how to do that. So these guys are exploiting that opportunity of not seeing tough. It's very simple. And the enemy is capitalizing off this opportunity. FYI, this story just came in

if you want to show it on what just happened. Ukraine and Russia foreign minister met together. I don't know if you guys saw that video. They had talks together. Nothing, there is no peace treaty. Nothing came out of it. Ukraine, foreign ministers, Russian officials live in their own reality after talks fail. If you want to go up second, read this. Talks between Russia and Ukraine, foreign ministers, Turkey, on Thursday ended in failure. The discussions between Laravel and Kuleba lasted just an hour and a half Ukraine for a minister

Comments come after Russia's for minister earlier deny that Russian forces had targeted civilians by bomb in the children's hospital and maternity Ward on Wednesday, so Here's a good here's a bad. What's the good at least they faced off in the out of meeting? Which is good, okay? There is some progress going on, okay. Just the fact that they're willing to do that, I feel it's progress.

Negotiation, sometimes you don't get it done the first time or the second time around, but they were able to get together. Does this mean it's over and Putin's gonna say, okay guys, let's just kind of, don't worry about it. It's okay, I'm over it. We know that's not the kind of guy he is. He's gonna continue.

But I don't know, I don't know with all the stuff that's going on right now at what level are we going to see this slowing down. All I know is I'm a little bit more hopeful than I was two days ago with the fact that these guys had to sit down. What do you think? Yeah, there's a really interesting article that is out on the federalist about war games.

There are over 100 times in the last 10 years. There have been simulations of what happens when Russia invades Ukraine. Does this draw in the United States? Does this draw in NATO? Does this result in nuclear war? And this guy was a part of it. He was a part of these war games.

And he said every single time it resulted in nuclear war because when Putin feels boxed in, when he feels that his country or himself, if he feels mortally threatened, he unleashes a nuclear weapon. And this article to me was really eye-opening. I actually like pondered it. It was in my mind for like two or three days because I had been a little more on the Walsalensky's really courageous.

He's staying there. He's staying in his office. The people are being like the resistance is amazing. The propaganda I've forgiven for because that's just that's the new kind of war, right? And it made me actually rethink my view on Zelensky's strategy and how it's agitating the world. And the reason I use the word agitating is because I had used the word rallying. He's rallying the world behind, you know, behind his cause on behalf of the Ukrainian people

against Putin who's obviously evil and doing a bad thing. And I, after I read this article, I thought actually what he's doing is he's agitating the world because, in the reason for that is because he wants people, meaning voters, us, America specifically and Europe, he wants the people to have an emotional connection to the Ukrainian people so that we pressure our lawmakers to give him what he needs. But if you read this federalist piece and it talks about what specifically tips Putin over the edge to a nuclear war, you know, just the slightest like a no-fly zone, tips Putin over into a nuclear war, certain weapons, tip Putin over into a nuclear war because he doesn't want to be struck first. And it made me think the United States should be very,

very careful. We obviously should be doing that in Putin, of course. He's evil and he shouldn't be doing what he's doing. But we should be very, very cautious and very skeptical of what Zelensky, the operation that he is waging against us, or trying to get our approval, because things as simple as words, or those jets. That's Putin. Yeah, a fed-up point. That's a point to the point that he feels mortally threatened. And I was very encouraged.

I actually think Zelensky should consider the deal that the Kremlin offered him. They offered him. They said, you know, acknowledge that Crimea is Russian and acknowledge that these separatist regions are independent and put in your constitution that you won't get into NATO or the EU and, you know, the words from the Kremlin where this will all stop in a minute. If I were Zelensky, I'd seriously consider that.

Well, it sounds like he is. I think he made a couple of comments that basically he's not interested in joining NATO NATO. What's the quote that he said? Yeah, that was just yesterday, I think. Exactly. It's cool. He's cool down there. And they're open to those regions, you know, from Russian back separatists,

rejoining the Russian Federation. What have you? Um, but you got to hand it to the guy, man. I mean, the world is rallying around this guy. And I think it's only going to get worse for the Russian economy. I think the world is rallying around this guy And and I think it's only gonna get worse for the Russian economy I think they're gonna default on on their loans. What's that story if you want to cover that? Morgan Stanley. Well, just just real quick We got a pretty good interesting comment in here and a lot of people echo this. It's from a guy named critic geek and Adam

It's all officially your fault. I just wanted to let you know. It's all Adam's world. I have a mic sometimes Makes a lot of sense. I mean it does point back to one person. It's not Adam, but it points back to Biden. I mean this could all have been avoided. None of this had happened. That's why I that's why I recommend to Zolansky that he consider this. It's not because it's a good deal. It's not. No one wants to give up part of their self-determination their autonomy or their democracy, but it's because we're in this loose-lose situation. The binary options both are terrible. And the reason we're in that binary choice is because of decisions made by Joe Biden. What should Biden have done differently in regards to this?

He should have continued the sanctions on the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. That's probably the single thing that could have prevented this the most, he also should have not been relying on Russian oil, he should have continued, are the United States path towards energy independence. Those two things, I mean, that's really the leverage that Putin has. Those two things Putin cares about is profit. He cares about his pocketbook, just like everybody does.

And if you threaten that, that's also his leverage for controlling the response from European nations. So Biden really just could have done those two or three things and this could have been prevented. So the Morgan Stanley story we're talking about is a fortune story. It says Russia could default as soon as next month. Morgan Stanley says Russia's economy is so weak that it may have to default on its foreign debt soon with analysts comparing it to Venezuela and a note on Monday. Simon Waver, Morgan Stanley's global head of emergency

markets sovereign credit strategy, warned that Russia's economy was inching perilously close to default territory as the West imposes sanctions and talks of a recession mount. We see a default as most likely scenario Waiver said, predicting that the default may occur on as early as April 15th, a date that will mark the end of 30-day grace period on coupon payments that the Russian government owes on dollar bonds. In case of default, it is unlikely to be a normal one with Venezuela, instead perhaps the most relevant comparison. What is the default due to Russia?

I mean, he just, the guy is making a threat saying, I'll take it to $300 instead of what it is today. You want to do a default with us? They're just going to make it 40% of you still rely on these guys with gas. Do you really think this default is real threat to Russia? No, I don't think so either. No, the sanctions go one way, not I'm not going to pay you next month. It doesn't work, it doesn't work that way. You know. I read a very interesting book called The Next Zar. It's a story about Putin. It's very interesting when you read about it, you read about where he went up and where his education was. One of the things is, he is employing Zar thinking. Part of the Zar thinking is military imperialism and rebuilding. But the other part of bizarre thinking is zero end game.

I mean, the Zars were literally unafraid of, you know, of their own mortality or fatality. And that is the character flaw that was in the Zars. And so when I read this and what you talk about, but you're just talking about just now, it's, I mean, it lines up, you know, beware of the guy that really isn't concerned about the end game the way you think of an end game.

Yeah, but at what point does Putin, like we're saying that it's Biden's fault? Okay, maybe there's parts of it that it is, but at what point does Putin have to accept responsibility that attacking Ukraine and invading Ukraine is basically crumbling and dismantling the Russian economy. What? Inflation has reached double digits by far. Interest rates are 20% at this point. The rubble is crumbling, is worth a penny.

You can't use your mastercard ATM or visa, AMX, the stores are closing. There's sanctions galore. I mean, at the end of the day, is it all worth it? So you can take back parts of Russia that are, you know, Russian back to, and speak Russian. At what point does Putin have to say, you know what? This isn't actually a good idea to do all this. You're applying Western thought of good bad. That's not how he's thinking.

I'm sorry. I mean, is Western, is your economy crumbling and your and your rubble crumbling a Western philosophy? He I don't think he's worried about it. How can you not? Well if you're not if you're not accountable to your people I mean right that's the problem with dictators and authoritarian is when things are going badly for the people the people don't have the power to say well we're gonna vote you out of office we're gonna hold you accountable when someone's an authoritarian they're to live high on the hog. And it doesn't really matter if the people suffer.

I actually had a really interesting conversation with Senator Ted Cruz. I co-host that new series, The Cloak Room with him on Vertict Plus. And I asked him about Putin's mental state, because there have been some insinuations from people like Senator Marco Rubio, or even Condoleezza Rice. She was on the view, and she said, listen, I interacted with Putin five or six times in person,

and he's a killer, he's evil, but he's a rational actor as defined in foreign policy, meaning not a jihadist, not a death wish. He's a rational actor, but she said recently, his behavior seems to be more erratic. It doesn't seem to be in that same vein. And so this obviously, they didn't go into this much deeper on the view.

And I thought, wow, we really should be talking about that exact comment. And so I asked Senator Cruz, I was like, listen, I have access to a lot of open source information. You have access to a lot of classified information. What's the psychoanalysis of Vladimir Putin? Is he still acting as a rational actor? And I mean, obviously he can't disclose super classified

information, but he said as far as he can tell, as far as he's seen, Putin is still acting as a rational actor if you understand what his ideology is, which should inform the world, it should inform the world what, or how we react. And these sanctions, I mean, these sanctions, understand who they hurt the most to, they hurt not just the people they hurt, the oligarchs and the oligarchs there, control Putin. They're very influential. So you're saying that they control Putin? Yeah, yeah, the oligarchs, he needs the support of the oligarchs and the oligarchs there, control Putin. They're very influential. So you're saying that they control Putin? Yeah, yeah, the oligarchs. He needs the support of the oligarchs. But then that goes to your point to what you said yesterday. That meaning you. Is he listened to that? Yeah, the oligarchs. Yeah, so you can't lose them. If they lose their minds, you saw what happened with the soccer thing the other day.

Yesterday, the Britain, sock Roman Chelsea, Roman, a promise. They've been a way for the nets to had to sell the nets and the Barclays Arena. He was a Russian because he had tides to fly here. He sold that five years ago. That wasn't recently. That was years ago. But now I mean, think about what's happening to them right now. I mean, their yachts are being sunk. They can't go the Riviera. They can't send their children to elite universities around the globe. I mean, they think Roman Abramovich started to kick you off was actually sanctioned this morning and now he can't sell the club before the three billion pounds he wanted to sell it for. So my point initially was I hope it's all worth it Vladimir. Yeah. I hope all this is worth getting Crimea that you know you're losing support in your country you're losing support from the oligarchs your people are standing in bread lines ATM lines the Ruples

worth nothing but hey you got a little more territory I think I think the whole thing the strategy is what outwork out improve out strategize but what's the last one out last this is a lasting game right now this is all a stamina and fatigue game right now do you think this actually helps him outlast or does this the minute of chances of outlast no, I think if Kremlin is making the request on what they want, I think he is waiting for Zelinsky to burn out and fatigue and say, okay, fine, we'll make it work. Look what happened with Paschini and from Armenia. Eventually he says, okay, let's get down, let's sit down and talk and they sat down with Azerbaijan and Putin and figured out a way to do it,

right? That happened very quickly. Not very quickly. a figure out a way to do it, right? That happened very quickly. Not very quickly. It was about a month. I mean, it didn't take months and months and months and months. No, no, no. What a week. Guys, but your time has, we still got a couple weeks left

to the April 15 default. So this guy has a timeline. In his mind, he's thinking, I'm going to go till this day. Like, this is not a meeting. It's like, what did they say? Go. This is a meeting of 40 moves ahead of what we're gonna, if this guy says this, this is the plan.

If that guy says this, this is the plan. If that guy says this, start this, press this, send this guy to call, send this, call the media on this, shut this thing down, if media, they, this is a month and month, maybe a year's strategy of what to do in this moment. That's all it is.

I don't think they're winged. A default is basically when you just don't make your payments, right? I think he has a time in his head. Does, do you think, that's my question. Do you think he's actually concerned about this April 15th deadline? I don't think that they're not actually a fan state. I'm just giving the date that Morgan Stanley gives.

I just think he has a date on his fault date. I'm saying is you think he's concerned about. No, he's he don't that's not it. If they go back to communism, the people in that country is like, what are you talking about? Just 30 years ago to come and he's like, what are you guys complaining about? Yeah, but I'm saying this that he's thinking this.

I'm not saying it as I'm saying it. That's how he processes that. You know what? International women's day, he said, hey, an international woman's day. This is a great opportunity for us to recognize our men that are at war. This is mentality. International women's day about a different.

Exactly. This is the international woman's day. I appreciate our men in the fight. I fight. So we got five, five women. It's I want to do two other stories before we wrap up. One is with Jeff Zucker, CNN page 10. If you want to go to it. Jeff Zucker, okay, reaches resolution with Warner Media over abrupt CNN exit, won't sue Jeff Zucker. As finalized a deal with Warner Media over the former CNN

chief sudden fall of his grace last month. Details of confidential package are obviously being kept close to the vest, but sources tell us Zucker made the decision several weeks go to accept what had been done on the table by the old bosses at the time at the table News exit what we know is that if Warner media kept Keeps it's a side of the deal in the next two weeks 10 days in the next two weeks to 10 days in the next week to 10 days Zucker receive a one-time payment of 10 million dollars. We all tore that Zucker quite publicly since his departure CNN sees this chance as a move on and pursue the next chapter of his career in terms of Moving on as part of his agreement would warn the media the one-time NBC universal head

Hancho has waived any future rights or intention to pursue litigation against his old corporate overalls But just as very normal when you do that. This is not like anything crazy But the story that is crazy is what James O'Keefe did This James O'Keefe guy man. He this James O'Keefe guy, man, he is relentless. Pulitzer Prize winning New York Times reporter says January 6 media coverage over reaction, FBI involved, even event was not organized despite ongoing narrative.

So go to page six on this one, because he's not slowing down. So New York Times, National Security Corp on a Matthew Rosenberg contradicts his own January 6 reporting that were a ton of FBI informants amongst the people who attacked the Capitol. Let me say this one more time. By the way, he's on video saying this, talking to a girl, I'm sure you guys saw this, and then yesterday, O'Keefe was following him with a mic in his face and he's saying,

turn the camera off. He says, this is an America. This is free speech. O'Keefe's on a different level. Rosenberg, it was like me and two other colleagues who were there on January 6th outside and we were just having fun. I know I'm supposed to be traumatized, but like all these colleagues who were in the capital building and are like, oh my God, it was so scary.

I'm like, you know, f off. Rosenberg, I'm like, come on. It's not the kind of place I can tell someone to man up, but I kind of wanted to be like, dude, come on, you were not in any danger. These little dweeps who keep doing on about their trauma shed the hell up, their effing bitch. Okay, Rosenberg, they were making too big of a deal.

They were making this an organized crime that it wasn't. So, Zucker, CNN, New York Times called out, how much trust, how much more trust are we having in the media today? Man, they keep losing credibility. The article about Zucker cracks me up because it says, you know, he's going to keep the details of the settlement close to his chest

and then the rest of the article is all the details. And FYI, I mean, I don't have to tell you guys this. Anytime it says a source close to Zucker, like that's Zucker on his phone, like typing out what he wants them to print, that is not anybody close to him. He's publishing what he wants to print. Listen, he was fired not because of the affair that he had with that woman, which I think we all agree no one cares about. He's an adult, it was consensual.

He can do that if he wants, I mean, makes him a pig, but that's not really a fireable offense. The reason he was fired obviously was because he helped cover up Andrew Cuomo and Chris Cuomo helped cover up Andrew Cuomo's malfeasance, even Andrew Cuomo's sexual malfeasance, like that's bad, don't get me wrong, but he wasn't ousted because of that, he was ousted because he was going to be held accountable for the nursing home deaths that he facilitated during COVID. So this is just the domino effect. Um, the domino effect is Jeff Zucker

helped helped Chris Cuomo who helped Andrew Cuomo who presided over the deaths of thousands of old people in New York. He deserves to be fired for that. I mean, he's taken CNN. I think it's what the Joe Rogan podcast has like 11 times more viewers every day than prime time CNN that if you stop and think about that statistic for a second, I mean, he has presided over just the devastation of CNN, which is sad, CNN, one sense, but also I find to be quite humorous given how biased they are. Well, don't you think that that might be a partial reason

is that their ratings are in the tank? And by the way, all networks are getting killed by Joe Rogan. I don't think it's a reason to see a net. I mean, no, let's do it. No one does the ad. But the, how much of it is just because he tied all his ratings to Trump, they would have cameras on the podium when Trump was it even there? Like, he's common. Like, he was been there for the last 10 years before we was there for Obama, there for Trump. How much of it is actually the sexual accusations, cover-ups versus dude, like CNN's failing?

No, that's what I'm saying. I don't think it's about his affair or whatever. I honestly don't think people really care about that. Outside of his personal life, I don't mean to sound flawless. I didn't think it was an affair. I think he was just banging a coworker who happened to be 45 years old. It wasn't like she was some intern, you know,

I literally don't even care about the affair. He was obviously fired because not, I don't even think it was because CNN's ratings are in the tank. I think it's because of the Andrew Cuomo stuff. I mean, CNN lost their credibility, not, not necessarily just because they had a camera on the podium for Trump, but because of how they covered Trump. CNN literally had, remember, remember the Kavanaugh hearings? CNN Brian Stelter had on Michael Avenatti and said, you are a realistic 2020 presidential candidate. Can't you just, can't, like, mind your own way. Who's literally a jail right now?

Yeah, who stole money from a porn star, yeah, based on the book that she wrote. I mean, this guy's nuts and Brian Stelter. And other clients. Yeah, and Brian Stelter's pushing her only because she's making allegations or the allegations against Kavanaugh and against Trump. So who's the alpha at CNN now? Is it Brian stelter? Is it done? The mom's definitely got to be as beta as they get. Have those stories in the same

sentence. Brian is Brian should go sit down with you and a little bit of a roll. That's because he would be ultimate beta. He's coming up on the South campus. Yeah. I was I think you're absolutely right. I think there's nothing to see here on Zuckers. Zuckers agreed to two thoughts in his mind. $10 million is good to shut up and get my career ready for my next chapter in media. Maybe I don't sue the world, including boards of directors. You know what? I want to work in media. Time to shut up, sign the paper, get on with it, and have my quiet period, and then come back and get re-involved, which is what he I want to work in media. Time to shut up, sign the paper, get on with it, and have my quiet period, and then come back and get re-involved, which is what he's going to do.

That's what's going on here. He's not going away. He's not going away. I think it lives absolutely correct. The derivative liability that was coming to CNN, look, CNN also yesterday, the new chief, what did he announce? We've agreed to a cease fire with Fox.

So while we're all covering wars, did you see that? They used the phrase cease fire. We're not going to be fire with Fox. So while we're all covering wars, they used did you see that they use the phrase cease fire We're not gonna be all over Fox for this. They're not gonna be all of this We're gonna go more to hard reporting stories and so CNN is also trying to go good and say hey We're gonna be a journalist. We're gonna be doing this all this is interrelated, but Jeff Zucker is easy Jeff take the money Don't sue anybody do your time out and quiet Then come back and do whatever you want to do. I was a CEO of the company. Look, a couple of things. I watch two documentaries that I recommend people to watch. One of them is going to piss off one audience, the other one is going to piss off another audience.

One of them was a winter on fire and a Ukraine on fire. Ukraine on fire, I believe, is by Oliver Stone and winter on fire is on Sean Penn. I am curious to know how Putin thinks and Oliver Stone sits with Putin. Like I'd love to have a conversation with Oliver Stone to see what he thinks about Putin. You know, like how was this guy's wiring when you had a sit down with him? What was it like? So Oliver Stone does that interview then Sean Penn does the other one with the students and the kids, all that other stuff. If you haven't watched it, can we?

Can you show both of those documentaries so people can see it? Listen, next 24, 40 hours, do one of them, then watch the other one. I think one of them is on Netflix and the other one you can watch on IMDB. That's a Ukraine one from 2016, okay, and then go to the other one

that explains winter on fire and that's on Netflix I want to say right there's those two I recommend you watching those and then more importantly if you Were not subscribed to Liz Wheeler's podcast we're gonna put the link below if you loved having around go give her a sub And give her a shout out of her being here on the podcast with us Liz, you're amazing. You're exactly what we expected you to be, fiery and energetic and somebody that puts a lot of time into researching to give the answers where you get people thinking. Appreciate you so much for coming. I really enjoyed having you on. Thank you so much for the kind words. It was my honor to be here with you gentlemen.

Awesome. So, Dan, tomorrow, one of the podcasts will only be on Spotify. We can't do it live because YouTube guidelines won't allow an Apple podcast. Spotify, Apple podcasts. Spotify, Apple podcasts. And the other one will be on YouTube. And just you don't want to miss the other one. Let's just say the afternoon will be very, very interesting. That's probably a very good way of putting it. So, all right. So, we'll see you guys tomorrow. Take care everybody. Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye. is probably a very good way of putting it. So, all right, so, we'll see you guys tomorrow.

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