PBD Podcast - Cuomo DESTROYS Mamdani, NBA Mafia Gambling Bust & Trump TURNS China On Russia | PBD Podcast | Ep 672
Episode Date: October 24, 2025Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down Andrew Cuomo’s heated debate clash with Zohran Mamdani, the NBA’s massive mafia-linked gambling bust, and Trump’s bo...ld oil move to turn China against Russia amid rising trade tensions.------👞 GET THE NEW FLB 1'S: https://bit.ly/4mXV9gd📺 PBD x ANNA PAULINA LUNA: https://bit.ly/4o8Ag3o📕 REGISTER FOR BPW 2025 - FRIDAY, DECEMBER 12TH 2025: https://bit.ly/3IU2YWx
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Did you ever think you would make it?
I said I'm supposed to take sweetly bit of dirty.
I know this life meant for me.
Adam, what's your point?
The future looks bright.
My handshake is better than anything I ever signs.
Right here.
You are a one of one?
My son's right.
I don't think I've ever said this before.
Guys, I think it's appropriate for us to start a podcast with some life-changing advice.
if that's okay with you guys.
If you at any point of your life
are making 26.6 million a year,
don't go break the law betting and gambling
and leaving the game nine minutes into it
for $200,000 of cash.
You know what you call that?
You call that double-dum, okay?
I don't want to start off with some life-changing advice
because I want our folks to have better lives.
I want you to enjoy playing the NBA, okay?
I want you to enjoy doing what you're doing,
but no, not Terry Rozier.
It's not what he wanted to do.
He wants $200,000, right?
And it's a lot of stuff going on with the whole NBA scandal that's coming up.
Some people are saying they didn't even done with, I had to make a phone call to an old
friend Tim Donahy, who was the referee in the NBA that went and did some time because he was
actually doing stuff with the mop, and he's going to join us here in a few minutes, so stay tuned
for that.
But we got a lot of stories to get into.
The debate, New York City mayoral debate, Curtis Lewa on fire, Andrew Cuomo,
Some incredible, you know, heat on Mamdani.
And Mamdani came with his charming smile, you know, doing his stink.
But odds are still, you know, on their side.
I mean, there's got to be a miracle taking place.
But I thought Cuomo actually did a pretty good job,
and I thought Slibo did a good job.
We'll see if New York City is going to be doing anything or not.
Bill Ackman.
Trump is the most pro-business president we've ever had, okay?
Trump claims China doesn't want to invade Taiwan.
By the way, breaking news just came out of nowhere yesterday when we're talking to Anna Paulino Luna,
which by phenomenal conversation talking to her, we could have gone for another four hours.
Is China agreed to follow the sanctions not buying oil from Russia?
That decision was made.
We made the announcement within 50 minutes of it.
State oil guys are not buying no more.
Trump Barton's convicted, Partons convicted Binance founder, CZ White House says,
Trump, it was time for Russia sanctions.
Putin meeting didn't feel right.
I don't know if you guys saw what he did with Canada.
Apparently, the Ronald Reagan Foundation came back and said, you know,
Canada was spending $75,000 of ads against tariffs.
Trump said every negotiation that we had on the table is done.
I don't want to talk to you.
Terminator the whole thing.
We'll definitely talk about that.
Exclusive China's okay.
We talked about time for Russia.
Got it.
Who is paying for Trump's White House ballroom folks?
I don't know if Tom just showed us something
right before we went live
He showed us what the White House
We'll show it in a minute
We won't show it right now
What the White House put up on their website
Of pictures
That they're doing at the White House
You gotta see it, it's funny
A lot of people are losing their mind over with it
But we'll definitely cover that story, okay?
This is exactly when Christianity
will be toppled
As religious majority in America
As Islam Rises
Louis Jimajuni Bha fought seven lady boys
in Thailand before CEO killing
seven lady boys is what
girls with danglings is that kind of what that
guys that are
we got a guy on the scene down there
that's two and six years
yeah he's going to be live in the streets
sharp declining young adults
identifying as transgender
non-binary analysis finds
Pentagon announces a new right wing
press corps after mass walkout
Tom's got some thoughts on that
average cost of a family health insurance plant
is now nearly $27,000.
U.S. lift key restrictions on Ukraine, use of European long-range missiles.
Finances are getting tighter.
U.S. car repos surge as Americans default on auto loans.
Netflix co-CEO on WBD, buyout rumors.
We have no interest in owning legacy media networks.
Warner Brothers Discovery launches formal auction of media giant sources.
Mehdi Hassan has tantrum
As Americans inform him
They don't want Islamic call to prayer
In their neighborhoods
You have to see what he has to say about it
Which is quite interesting
And then we got a couple of the stories
The NBA scandal
Chauncey Billets
I never ever thought
Choncy would be on a list like this
Literally I never thought he'd be on a list like this
Maduro is asking for peace
But he's being sarcastic
A couple of other boats got shot down as well
People have to learn how to swim nowadays
In Venezuela if you're working there
you're dealing drugs, Vinnie, you have to be a, like a serious ironman type of swimmer to go through
it. And then Hillary Clinton mocked for 2001 furniture scandal amid Trump's ballroom meltdown.
At least he didn't steal the silverware, which Hillary Clinton did. And she had to come to turn it back.
What's wrong with that? Who does things like that? But she did. California should commercial CDL
to illegal alien truck drivers. You have to see what happened. I don't even, can we show that video?
Rob, the video with the truck
Yeah, the mainstream, I saw
it on Fox News yesterday, so yeah, we can show
it. Brett Bear confronts
Governor Pritzker over
Chicago crime and it's like, no, we're not, we're in the top
we're not even in the top 30.
He's like, what are you talking about?
And then he shows them the data. You have to
see that part. Anyways, okay, so
that's what we got. Guys, couple things to remind
everybody at the end of the podcast,
we're going to answer a couple questions
of anybody that wants to ask
any questions. You can even direct it
to Adam, to Tom, to myself, to Vinny.
Go to Meneck Circle.
By the way, this morning for podcast prep,
there was a special video with a song that Vinny and Tom
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but if you want to find out what that song is,
some of the guys probably don't even know what that song is
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Go to PPD Podcast Circle, Minak, Minak Circle,
and then post your questions at the end of the podcast
will address one or two of them.
And aside from that, for those you that are watching,
and you have big plans for 2026,
I'm excited for 2026.
I think 2026 is going to be the greatest year in my lifetime in America.
You know, America's turning 250.
World Cup's coming here.
President Trump's turning 80.
We're going to have multiple times rates going lower.
I think the IPO market's going to open up.
And Vinny and I, we were out.
I was looking at Vinny outside.
You said, I don't know what was going on.
So I'm walking outside.
Vinny's looking at the scam.
I'm like, Vinny, what are you doing?
Obviously, we're living, we have 11 acres of land.
We own right on the airport.
So I was concerned.
I walked up.
Watch what Vinny was doing in this video.
Go ahead, Rob.
Great pose.
Come on, come on, come, come.
Hey Vinny.
What's up, Pat?
What are you doing?
Waiting.
Waiting for what?
Business plan.
You come from sky.
So people told me it works.
That's not how it works.
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Having said that, let's get right into it.
President Trump is not happy about Canada.
Rob, if you want to pull this up, so President Trump tweets about Ronald Reagan Foundation,
finding out that Canada has fraudulently used an advertisement, which is fake,
featuring Ronald Reagan, speaking negatively about tariffs,
the ad was for $75,000.
They only did this to interfere with the decision of the U.S.
Court and the other courts, tariffs are very important to the national security and the economy
of U.S. based on their egregious behavior, all trade negotiations with Canada are hereby
terminated. Thank you for this intention to the matter, President Donald J. Trump. Tom,
thoughts on this. Well, back in the day, Reagan was a free market thinker, and he made comments
about tariffs. Now, but you've got to go look at what is happening right now. I sum it up this
way, and this is my opinion, my assessment. Reagan was talking about punching first with tariffs.
Can we do this? Can we play the clip? And then I want you to talk about this. Here's a clip, folks.
This is the one that Tom is talking about. Go ahead.
When someone says, let's impose tariffs on foreign imports, it looks like they're doing the patriotic
thing by protecting American products and jobs. And sometimes for
short while it works, but only for a short time.
But over the long run, such trade barriers hurt every American worker and consumer.
High tariffs inevitably lead to retaliation by foreign countries and the triggering of fierce trade wars.
Then the worst happens.
Markets shrink and collapse, businesses and industry shut down, and millions of people lose their jobs.
Throughout the world, there's a growing realization.
is a growing realization that the weight of prosperity for all nations is rejecting protectionist
legislation and promoting fair and free competition.
America's jobs and growth are at stake.
Okay, so that's what President Trump doesn't like. Go ahead, Tom.
So listen to what Reagan was saying. People have an idea to protect, and that leads to retaliation,
and it leads to trade wars. So what Reagan was talking about is,
you need to get yourself competitive and you have to be ready for a global economy.
That's what Reagan was saying.
Very clearly, he was saying, don't punch first with protectionist tariffs.
But what is Trump doing?
Canada seems to have a short memory on this.
Trump is punching back against companies that have had tariffs and restrictions on the United States for years.
decades. And so I think you have to look at both sides of it that way, Pat. That's what I think. You know,
hard to pick on on Trump. When he is punching back and trying to level the playing field,
you don't hear Trump using the word protection. You hear Trump using the word unfair. It's been
unfair for too long. And I'm behind Trump on this one. And I think that this spin that being put
on there, look, Doug Ford came out and said things. You've got people in Canada saying,
things. They're trying to get
through, you know,
the Trump years and get to the other
side. And this was a Bush
League move. And I love the fact
that he hit back so hard. Well, this
is sort of just part for the course of what was going on in Canada.
If we, like, pan out a little bit.
To me, California
and Canada are very similar.
They're these big, massive pieces of land
that could be beautiful, could be
great, but they're crumbling and falling
apart. How often
do we hear about Kami-Fornia or what's going on
and caught me like Canada.
I did a podcast.
I think Vinny, you did a podcast
with our friend Matthew the other day.
And I said, everyone I talked to in Canada
is trying to move to Florida.
Everybody, like every single person.
I said, do me a favor.
Sell me on coming to Canada.
Because I could sell you on coming to Florida.
Tax haven, amazing weather, great people,
free markets, low taxes.
The whole deal.
I go, sell me on coming to Canada.
He goes, well, it's going to be tough
to sell you in Canada
because we have the following issues
and economic and whokeness.
And he starts going down the list.
15 minutes later, he's bashing Canada.
I go, dude, let me stop you.
I asked you to sell me on Canada.
He goes, yeah, I just can't.
And what's happening in Canada over the last decade,
it's downstream from some of the policies that Trudeau basically implemented
and now being sort of reinvigorated by this Carney guy.
But no bueno what's going on in Canada.
And apparently, Pat, the Reagan Foundation or the family,
they're going to be looking into hopefully going after them
because they're, they use the video in a manner that wasn't what he actually said.
But what they're trying to do,
they're basically trying to discredit Trump
and what he's doing with the policy.
The foundation, like I said,
I think, Rob, did the foundation say
that they're going to go after them?
It's like your neighbor is lying to your face.
You don't renegotiate.
You close the gate.
Good for them.
Reagan Foundation issued a statement saying
the ad misrepresents Reagan's remarks
and claims that Ontario's government
did not seek nor receive permission
to use and edit the remarks.
Bingo.
Like, okay, you want to play games?
That's how we're going to play.
By the way, I actually like
the fact that Reagan Foundation is aligned with President Trump and there is none of this
rhino you know because there's different factions right on the party I am so glad they are
aligned on this thing together and going up against them and by the way the one thing that was
I voted one of my top three issues with the president was tariffs and I'm glad he's doing
it and I hope he comes through with it and I hope they let him do what he's trying to do
with tariffs other countries can tax us but we can't do that to them wait a minute
How does that work?
So the rules and regulations
is let other people punish Americans
but not the other way around for us.
You want to do business.
We have the best customers in the world.
You don't.
That's true.
The best customers in the world are in America.
You want to do business with us.
So if you want to do business with us,
here's what you have to do in return.
Very common sense stuff for me on this one.
Let's go to the next one.
New York City mayoral race still going on.
The debate took place Wednesday night.
It was actually a very good debate.
On the debate, Andrew Coleman,
finally showed up.
By the way, the way I put it,
I put Sliwa that showed up the best.
Then I put Como, then I put Mamdani.
Did his same old, same old stuff.
But on this one, this was the toughest debate for Mamdani
because he got destroyed.
Andrew Como came out, straight up, destroyed Mamdani.
In this one clip, Rob, if you want to go out and play this clip,
go right ahead.
I understand my friend doesn't really understand government.
The governor doesn't build housing in New York City.
Not if it's you.
No, legally, there are jurisdictions.
The governor doesn't pick up trash.
He doesn't run the fire department.
That's what the mayor does.
The mayor builds housing.
The state allocates funding for localities.
And I allocated more funding for housing than any governor in the history of the state of New York.
All right?
I did things.
You have never had a job.
You've never accomplished anything.
There's no reason to believe you have any merit or qualification for eight and a half million lives.
You don't know how to run a government.
you don't know how to handle an emergency
and you've literally never proposed the bill
on anything that you're not talking about in your campaign.
You had the worst attendance record in the assembly
and you gave yourself the highest raise
in the United States of America.
You went from $110,000 to $140,000
and then you never showed up for work
and you missed 80% of the votes.
Shame on you. Shame on you.
Yeah, that's pretty strong right there.
That's what I'm talking about.
I wish it happened earlier.
Yeah. Tom, what do you think about Cuomo right there?
You know what that is? That is a man talking about the things he did, because as a mayor, you have to get things done.
As a governor, you have to get things done. You know, you can talk about that the senators and assemblymen and congressmen, these people negotiate bills.
But when it comes to getting things done, declaring the state of disaster area, getting things going, that was fantastic.
and he brought the receipts on how Mundani wasn't even present in the role that he was in.
You missed 80% of the votes.
Really?
Are you kidding me?
And you went from $100,000 and $140,000?
I thought he brought receipts on Madani's number two.
But number one, I thought he pointed out what he had done for New York building more houses,
stimulating more houses to be built in New York City than any other governor.
Okay.
So here's Mamdani.
Going after Andrew, Governor Cuomo.
Go ahead, Rob.
Mr. Cuomo, in 2021, 13 different women who worked in your administration
incredibly accused you of sexual harassment.
Since then, you have spent more than $20 million in taxpayer funds to defend yourself
all while describing these allegations as entirely political.
You have even gone so far as to legally go after these women.
One of those women, Charlotte Bennett, is here in the audience this evening.
You sought to access her private gynecological records.
She cannot speak up for herself because you lodged a defamation case against her.
I, however, can speak.
What do you say to the 13 women that you sexually harassed?
The old Me Too movement card.
Oh, the Trump move by they're bringing the girl in.
If you want to be in government, then you have to be serious and mature.
There were allegations of sexual harassment.
They were then, went to five district attorneys, fully litigated for four years.
The cases were dropped, right?
You know that as a fact.
So everything you just stated, you just said was a misstatement.
Okay, how do you process that one, Tom?
I love the fact that he came back with the receipts on it.
This is what happens.
Now, I think he could have talked about the source of it, you know, a little bit.
But the fact was they did go to multiple district attorneys, and these cases were dropped.
Adam, your thoughts.
So it's almost like Andrew Cuomo is sort of getting the message that you got to fight dirty in this thing.
To me, it's like, what's the famous song, Material Girl from Madonna, was a material girl living in a material world.
Andrew Cuomo was an 80s Democrat
living in a 2025
Socialist, Woke, Islamist, Democratic Party
and he's finally realizing
I can't play nice with this guy
and I need to go on the attack.
You see these stats out there
about if it was just people
who were born in America
or born in New York,
Andrew Cuomo would run away with this race.
I don't think Andrew Cuomo's playing dirty.
I think he's responding well,
finally responding well to the dirt.
Well said, Tom.
Do you have that right?
And then immigrants.
Yeah, and then immigrants overwhelmingly vote for Mamdani.
So there's a clear schism right there.
For me, and this might be offensive, I don't care.
Can we make New York Italian again?
Can we break Brooklyn back to what's going on?
You have some Ugandan socialist.
Who's rich parents, who hasn't worked.
Who's about to become the mayor of New York Free City.
Yeah, what happened?
If it were me.
This is what you're talking.
I want Cuomo to get Italian as hell.
Yeah, I touched the girl she liked.
There was no problem.
What are we talking about here?
New York City mayor election, American born.
If they were born in New York.
If you were born in America, Cuomo would be winning.
Mamdani second, but do you have the numbers about?
Now, if you're born outside of New York, they want Zordan Mandani.
And to me, this is a perfect piece of the puzzle to understand what's going on in America.
New Yorkers.
No, it's...
Don't you ever say what's going on in their city.
Well, first of all, and I've said this before.
Just, you know why he came in and this guy?
Like, I'm not saying anybody could have done it.
The pool of people.
You have to pick from Andrew Cromo, which I can...
The sexual allegations, whatever, if they're real...
Okay, but...
That's why I like him.
No, Adam, the...
What's it called?
The COVID response to the freaking dying elderly people, which nobody knew anything, but that happened.
Curtis Silva, nobody...
Nobody knows who is.
He's the beret guy.
Anybody, Timmy.
me could have come in talking and smiling and being slick.
And New Yorkers like, Adam,
except for Bill Ackman.
But here's the thing with Cuomo and Silva.
This is like you're going up against Mike Tyson.
It's the last round.
You're down on all the cards.
Now you want to start throwing haymakers.
Now you want to try to knock them out.
That's true.
Is it too little too late is what you're asking?
Adam, it's beyond late.
I just want.
Do you think it's too little too late for Cuomo to start doing this?
He's getting AI involved.
He's getting the damn.
Wow.
What's it called?
Eric Adams just endorsed them, okay?
Which doesn't carry a lot of weight.
No, but he just endorsed them.
Rob, if you want to just put it on there, it's a...
The family of New York.
That's why I'm here today to endorse Andrew Cuomo
to be part of this fight.
So he endorses them.
Now you got Curtis Lewe.
Curtis Leva's not going to be stepping out.
Bill Ackman tweeted something, if you want to pull that up
of what Bill Ackman said about Curtis.
Bill Ackman did not hold back and even asked him the question
to respond that he hasn't yet
I put Curtis Leewa as the best performer in the debate,
but the challenge that he has is one thing.
So if you want to go a little bit lower, when it was, no, Rob, it's like a few days ago.
Keep going lower, lower, lower.
It's two days ago.
It's just a tweet.
There's no videos, nothing else that you'll see him up.
Wait a minute.
Who is that?
Oh, he retweeted my tweet.
Well, that's the one I posted.
Interesting.
I don't know Bill Ackman.
Go to it.
Okay, this is what I posted.
My thoughts on the debate.
Curtis Spov was on Fireton.
a show him a conviction authorize.
Andrew Cuomo performed well
and looked loose, confident
like he was having fun.
Mamdani hit his usual greatest.
It was polished, poison in control.
Mamdani's pipe dream socialist policies
got exposed tonight.
He was caught off guard multiple.
I'm not sure if he means anything,
but this is the first time he got off guard.
My ranking of tonight's debate,
Sliwa Cuomo, Mamdani,
that's it.
Here's Slewa's challenge.
He has better chance to become
governor of New York
than mayor of New York City.
65% of New York City voters
are registered Democrats.
48% of New York State voters
are registered Democrats.
Sliwa has less than 1% chance
of winning the mayor.
mayoral race, but I see him legitimate gubernatorial contender in 2026. My suggestion, Slewa should
step down and team up with Cuomo and broker a deal for Cuomo to back him in 2026. Not sure
how realistic that is, but it is where big deals are done. It's clear. Slewa isn't planning to
stepping aside. And he's made that obvious. If you go a little lower, if you go a little bit lower
on Ackman's tweet. I actually have it. I sent it to Rob. Yeah. Thank you, Adam.
As he's looking for it. Someone where he questions this sort of integrity, right? I spoke to
someone who knows Slewa, and now I understand why he's staying in the race.
The city has an 8-to-1 matching program for New York City donor.
Slewa got $5 million of matching funds for the city for his campaign.
According to my source, Slewa's wife, friends, and others are on his campaign payroll.
And he and they are enjoying living off the city's taxpayer who are funding his race lifestyle.
And he doesn't want to end this campaign and have to return the funds, follow the money.
When I ask why he doesn't care about New York City, my source said he doesn't give a shit.
Clearly, this is hearsay, but my source is extremely credible and highly respected person, and he knows Sleva very well.
Curtis, please correct the record if I got anything wrong.
What personal related expenses does your campaign paying for is your wife and your other family or friends on the payroll or receiving funds?
Please clarify the record.
Did he respond to this?
That got 6.4 million views go a little bit lower.
Slevo, you mean?
I want to see if Slewa responded to it.
No, I don't see anything here.
Okay, Vinny, you were saying something.
Yeah, I just, okay, it's, let's just face the facts, okay?
And yeah, the debate has to happen, Pat, and you're absolutely great tweet, absolutely right.
It's over, unless a miracle happens.
This isn't some Donald Trump stuff.
And you saw Mom Donnie trying to be like Trump and bring the, the accusers and all that.
Listen, it's over, okay?
He is, unless, like I said, something insane is going to happen, he's going to win.
I'm just curious what you guys think of.
How long, Pat, until these people have buyers remorse and they go, oh my God,
that smiling face, that guy that takes photos
with freaking co-conspirators
of a world trade bombing
and then goes on podcast,
goes on Andrew Schultz's podcast,
and everybody's having a good time.
Everybody was glazing all over this guy.
Like, not once did you say,
hey, listen, that's you with a guy
that co-conspirator
that blew up, tried to blow up the world trade.
Where's the funny game?
Why is everybody having a great time?
I know it's a comedy podcast,
but hold the guy's foot to the fire
because guess what?
It's over.
When did he go on the Schultz's?
podcast.
He was on Shultz, I think, two days ago.
Did he push him at all?
Did he push him at all?
And what did Andrew Shultz say, Pat, about I'll pay, I'll pay the extra taxes if you do all
the stuff that you're going to say that you're going to do.
Schultz said he wants to pay more taxes?
And I'm just seeing it's when were people going to be like, hey, time out.
This is you.
This is what you've said.
This is what you're about.
All this free crap.
The city's going to pay for it.
Your free bus ride, that's 700.
How much was it, Tommy?
700 million?
Who's going to pay for it?
Who's going to pay for it that people are?
You guys have no idea what you're asking.
No, no, I'm saying, that would have been like...
So here's what, here's a clip that you're talking about on the 2%
on threats.
Yeah, that's why I didn't know if I could play it.
Pat, you're a thread guy.
Watch this.
Volume, please.
Anybody's moving and I honestly feel that way.
Go back, go back, go back.
Go back.
Go back.
We're like, dude, if you're going to deliver all this shit for 2%,
that's a loss.
So I don't think anybody's moving, and I honestly feel that way.
I'm in the tax market where you're going to tax more.
Like, dude, if you're going to deliver all this shit for 2%, give it, I'm 100% supportive.
It makes life easier for New Yorkers.
This is my one identity in my entire life is a New Yorker.
It's the thing I care the most about.
But I think that there are going to be people in government that are going to try to restrict you from doing that.
And I know that you're aware of that.
What the fuck do you do when special interest groups are going to be lobbying like crazy?
I mean, you have to do that.
You have to be ready to take on these fights.
There is a reason why we haven't had progress.
there are people making money
off the status quo
and so there will be a lot of interest
in retaining that status quo
right now the city of New York
will pay McKinsey a few million dollars
to design a trash can't
McKinsey's not going to be happy
when I say we don't need you to design that anymore
we can actually design that ourselves
you're right that we're going to have to transform
the inner workings of government
and that means ending a patronage politics
so a lot of people who have jobs
more to do with who they know than what they do
Andrew who lives in New York City
he's going to be impacted by this
he doesn't think people are going to leave
and he's okay paying the 2%
they're leaving already
you know what I'm saying
guys I'm just telling you what he said right
that's what he's saying but by the way
great Andrew
let's see if he's right
let's see if he's right let's see
if people will be leaving
let's see if this will
work out let's see if
what happens there but the reality of it is
Schultz wants Mamdani to win
of course so you think so
there's no question Schultz is I'm on
I think he even put a Cal she, he put a wager on Mamdani to win.
If I'm not mistaken, a thousand dollar wager for Mamdani to win.
So Schultz is trying to help Mamdani win.
And by the way, that was a place to be.
And Schultz is the podcast in New York.
You got to go through it.
You know, Cuomo had to get on the Schultz.
We'll see, I don't know yet.
But Cuomo had to get on that.
I don't think if Schultz doesn't get Cuomo to get on his podcast, what Schultz is
saying is he had Mayor Adams he had
Mamdani he didn't have Cuomo what he's saying to the public is
I don't support Cuomo that's what he's saying
and that's a position of where he's at so or Cuomo just hasn't
agreed to go on his podcast Cuomo would love to be on his
podcast but come on Schultz bring him on yeah can I respond to what
Schultz is saying for a second by the way let me just give
the disclaimer Andrew Schultz one of the best comedians working out
there I love his crew awesome job I think the world
of the guy at the same time I also know that he loves
New York. And to me,
when he says 100%
people are not moving, well, that's factually
incorrect. Because how many people move during
COVID? One little thing that to change
your life, Schultz moved to Miami
during COVID. So like,
and how many billions of dollars left New York during
COVID? So now, people
have a frame of reference. They
see what's coming down the pike.
They see the taxes that are coming down there.
And Schultz, respect to you. I know you probably
were tens of millions of dollars. We're not
talking about tens of millions of dollars here.
The people that would be moving are worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
They own the biggest firms.
They're going to be paying ridiculous corporate taxes potentially.
They're the billionaires.
They're the people that have houses everywhere, and they will move out in New York.
No problem.
They might move to New Jersey.
They might move to Connecticut.
They move to Florida.
They move to the sixth borough of Miami.
But to say that the people are not going to move out in New York is just disingenuous.
But I do think that Schultz cares about New York.
I don't think he's like burn it all down.
Yeah, but guess what?
You're getting swindled by this guy.
Name me one time, Tom.
This socialist, communist crap has worked anywhere ever.
Go.
We don't have to go there, Ben.
I'll answer your question very, very succinctly.
You said, when will New York realize it?
Yes.
I believe they're going to realize it next summer.
They're going to see the early signs that are going on.
And that's when I believe Elise Stefaniq will defeat Kathy Hochel next year, November 3rd,
2026 for the New York governor because the people of New York City are going to
realize what they
bought early on
and I think you're going to see a huge
change in New York politics
and by the way, next year's mid-
New York City is not New York State. I think we just showed that
stuff. No, I know, that's what I'm talking about.
Also, don't think that...
I don't think Schultz is an idiot. I think he's very
essential. What are the chances that he
realizes this is going to be our next new mayor?
Let me hedge my bet and
kind of like Gallivan for him
a little bit. Do you think that's a possibility?
No, that's
Then that means you're a grifter
Is what that means
No, I wouldn't say that
But hang on a second
No, you ask me a question
Gotcha
I'm answering you
So what do you believe in
That's the question
What do you believe in
What do you believe in?
Does what Mamdani do
match what you believe in?
If he does,
I support you supporting him
But if you're doing it
Because you like him
And you know
This guy's never
had a proven track record of having done anything and his track record got exposed with
Cuomo and he couldn't even refute it. This is not a worker. This is a rich family's kid that's
coming here that's going around telling people what to do and you're going to see what you get.
But I don't, I think, I think, I think honestly, Schultz is going through identifying what his
true convictions are. And some people are always like this trying to get clear.
Until your true convictions are like 100% like this,
you're always going to be swinging.
Makes one side or another.
One side or another.
One side or another.
I know he's been very critical of Andrew Cuomo.
I mean, a lot of New Yorkers are.
Of course.
So Cuomo is trying to put lipstick on a pig and be like,
no, he's a way better candidate that Mamdani.
Don't get me wrong.
But he also has a laundry list of things that he screwed up on.
Some people in New York, don't forget.
You just talked about the nursing homes and the old people.
So, in my opinion, the only way that this gets settled in a fair manner,
fair head-to-head
is that this guy
Curtis Lee will leaves the race
if he stays in it
it's done.
No, Adam,
we're how many weeks
two weeks away?
It's over.
Guys,
it's over.
I'm not worried about that anymore.
It's what's coming
and Tommy made a great point.
Give them a year.
Give them a year.
And I want to know all that
free stuff that he's talking about
and you're willing to pay a percent more.
Okay.
Tell that like Adam said to the
$50 million guys,
the $100 million guys
that are going to leave
and take their companies
and all their employees
and all the jobs.
Schultz is not going to be effective.
Schultz makes a shit ton of money.
Of course.
He's got money.
He's going to be okay with, you know, 2% for him on the $5 million he's making a year is $100,000.
He's not going to be hurt by a lot.
But the reality of it is if you're campaigning on convictions on who is a true New Yorker,
Cuomo is a bigger New Yorker, Sliwa is a bigger New Yorker.
Mamdani is a least amount of New Yorker.
Of course.
Out of all of them.
But your method of voting is the way you're choosing to vote.
right. We respect it. It's your city, meaning, like, go to your city. Let's see what happens
to your city. Maybe, maybe they're right. Maybe the guy's going to come and crush it. Maybe
this communistic ideas and more prayer in the streets is what New Yorkers want. Maybe,
maybe they want more of that. Maybe Andrew wants more of that outside of his place. And that's
okay. If he truly does, I support it because you're going to be directly impacted by it more
than us. FYI, you know how we're going to be impacted by it? People moving down here.
Real estate properties. You know what's going to happen?
happened here? Do you know, when we were in New York, when we were in New York and hanging out
the summer, what were realtors saying? What were people talking about? Where are people moving
to? Do you know the people in Hampton? They're like, you know how many calls we're getting
right now because people are trying to leave the city to come over here and buy all the properties?
So we'll see. We'll see. Schultz says nobody he believes is going to leave. Data's going to tell
you. Do you know how many Miami realtors are praying for Mom Dani? Of course. I have friends in Miami
that are just like, I can't wait.
They're going to make a killing.
Of course.
It's also almost, Pat,
tell me if you agree with this.
It's sort of reminiscent of the 2016 election
where you had establishment candidate corrupt Hillary Clinton
and they obviously got Trump in there.
But Bernie is the Mamdani candidate.
I don't think that's the comparison.
I think the true comparison to this is 2008.
This is not 2016 comparison.
Obama and McCain?
This is Mamdani as Obama.
and everybody fell in love because he was such a good speaker, and they were spooked.
Came out of nowhere, no history.
The challenge was what?
Who was the alternative?
It was Hillary Clinton.
And I don't blame them for not wanting to go with Hillary.
Oh, you're saying on the Democratic side.
Yeah, well, it was Hillary is Andrew, so I get that part.
But you're going to be spooked in this situation.
Well, the establishment versus the anti-establishment.
Andrew's not even the establishment.
The establishment hates Andrew Cuomo.
Well, he's establishment in everyone's eyes.
No, no, no.
a second.
Cuomo family legacy is establishment as a guest, no?
Adam, you've been interrupting a lot.
When it comes down to New York City, Andrew Cuomo is not establishment.
Pelosi hates him.
Schumer hates him.
Everybody hates him.
They can't stand this guy.
Who do you think probably investigated him and exposed all that stuff?
You don't think it was his own political party.
They can't stand the guy.
Right now, you know, you know what Cuomo's at?
You know, it's a tough part for Cuomo to be?
Como doesn't have any friends.
Right.
And you know what I'm saying?
Cuomo literally has no friends right now.
He has friends, don't get me wrong.
But Cuomo doesn't have,
Cuomo can't even go to this.
Tell me one big Democrat.
Has Obama came back and endorsed him?
Nope.
Kamala endorsed who?
Nobody.
Mamdani.
Hockel endorsed who?
Mamdani.
Who's endorsed Cuomo?
Eric Adams.
That's not a big.
So literally, if you think about it,
the guy's on an island by himself
with nothing going on,
trying to win a race, his own political party's not supporting him.
I agree with you that the establishment democratic class
has no love for Cuomo, but the people of New York,
the voters, think that he's establishment.
So like you said, he's sort of like politically homeless.
The establishment ain't helping him.
The people think he's establishment.
He's kind of cut in the middle here.
And the one guy that can maybe help him out,
getting out of the race, Curtis Slewa hates him as well.
So they're just all going to watch New York City burn down
with Mayor Mom Downey.
Yeah, I mean, the way it's going to go.
But remember what I said at the Jubilee debate.
I hope Mamdani wins.
Part of me wants Mamdani to win.
The other part of it for me politically
is you guys know where I stand
with people running for office
and you're not Western.
It's a bigger concern,
but we'll see.
We'll follow this case study really closely.
We've got two more weeks to go
to see who gets elected and who wins.
All right.
So let's go to the next story.
Next story I'm going to get into is about,
which one should I go to, Tom?
NBA, because we have Tom.
Okay, let's go to NBA.
So check this out, guys.
Imagine you're making $26.6 million,
and you're more excited about a $200,000 payout,
and your name is Terry Rozier.
Imagine your Chauncey Billups, say,
finals MVP, a head coach,
and you're working with the Italian mafia on poker games,
helping them over the years win $7 million.
Think about that.
Imagine your Terry Rozier,
you decide to step out of the game nine minutes into it,
and then that's one of the ways,
I just don't feel like playing.
steps out and goes out and, you know, is stepping out of the game to help a friend win the game.
Rob, do you have the clip of Cash Patel announcing this?
Yes.
So here's how it started the bombshell.
And then we're going to go to Tim Donnie here in a minute.
Go ahead, Rob.
Play this clip with Cash Patel.
Individuals such as Chauncey Billups, Damon Jones, and Terry Rozier were taken into custody today,
former current NBA players and coaches.
What you don't know is that this is an illegal gambling operation and sports rigging operation
that span the course of years.
The FBI led a coordinated takedown
across 11 states
to arrest over 30 individuals today
responsible for this case,
which is very much ongoing.
Not only did we crack into the fraud
that these perpetrators
committed on the grand stage of the NBA,
but we also entered and executed
a system of justice against La Casano
to include the Bonano, Gambino, Genovesi,
and we chase any crime families.
Okay, so by the way, it's not every day.
The FBI director, Cash Patel, comes out and explains what's going on with the NBA.
This is right after the NBA had a good opening day.
And the timing of it is kind of interesting.
You have an opening day, what's his name, Wembe, has an incredible opening day, 40 points, 15 rebounds, three blocks.
Good things are going on.
And then next thing, you know, boom, this is the news.
Tim, great to have you on the podcast.
Tim, can you hear us?
I can't hear.
I think you may be muted.
There you go.
Can you hear us?
We can hear them over there.
You're still.
I heard them over there.
No, that's Jake speaking.
Tim, you may be still muted.
Let's see.
Because that phone has got to, the red's got to remove from it.
How about now?
Yes, sir.
There he is.
So, Tim, how are you doing?
I'm doing terrific.
Good morning, guys.
Fantastic, fantastic.
Fantastic. Appreciate you for making the time.
So what do you think about what's going on here?
You know, I think we're just at the tip of the iceberg.
I think when you talk about arrests being made by the FBI,
I think the guys that are arrested are going to sit down and, you know,
be scared to death with what they're facing and they're going to start to cooperate
and they're going to tell the FBI everything they know and this thing is going to spread like wildfire
and you're going to find out that this is a lot bigger than it is right now.
and it's pretty big.
Tim, why do you think this is why two days before this announcement is made,
or even one day before this announcement is made?
Adam Silver, the commissioner of the NBA, was on Pat McAif.
You think that was intentional?
Absolutely.
I think he was trying to, you know, get ahead of the fire a little bit
and talk about that they need to get gambling under control.
And I think that he's going to continue to try to figure out a way, you know, to put a lid on this.
But it's going to be very difficult for him.
because I think this is widespread.
I think it's going to be very damaging to the league.
And, you know, I just received a text message from one of the FBI agents that worked my case.
And he basically said that they're not going to be able to cover this up like they cover up my case.
What do you mean by that?
So what's the difference between this case and your case?
You know, I think what the David Stern was able to basically put a lid on it and paint me as one bad apple,
the only guy involved.
and nobody else did anything but me, and, you know, we were going to move on from it.
You know, the FBI said that there was six or seven other people that they wanted to indict,
and this got shut down from the highest level.
And then I find out, you know, after I go to jail that, you know, a guy by the name of Greg
Andres, who was the head of the Eastern District of New York, took a job at a law firm,
and all of a sudden got all the outside legal counsel work for the NBA.
So, you know, it was a situation where David Stern really ran that whole investigation.
and it got shut down by the, you know, highest level people in regard to other people being involved.
Tim, so this is a bigger question for me.
One of the stories was where is it Damon Jones, I think was that gave a, and maybe I'm saying this incorrectly,
but one of the players that was a teammate of LeBron gave word that he may not be playing the game to a guy on the outside.
Do you think this is going to be tied to some NBA superstars as well?
And Chauncey is a superstar.
He's an NBA champion, you know, finals MVP is absolutely a superstar or head coach.
But do you think some major superstar names could be tied or leaked to this case here?
Absolutely.
I mean, when you talk about wire fraud, that's a law that, you know, can be applied to many different things.
And if you're just calling your buddy and telling them that somebody's not playing, you know,
even if it's a nonchalant comment, you're transferring that over state lines,
that's wire fraud and that's what I was charged with.
So, yeah, there's no doubt in my mind.
Some of these star players might have been, you know,
saying something to their buddies back home that they weren't playing
or one of the other guys weren't playing or they weren't 100%.
And bets were placed and money was made.
You know, I think that, you know,
sometimes people with power and money feel like the roles don't apply to them
and they're not going to get caught.
And you get a little bit cocky like I did
and think that you're going to get away with something like this
and you just don't.
You eventually always get caught.
What is the approach that the mob takes?
You know, a lot of times,
I've had a lot of the folks on the mob, you know, on.
And I've talked to Michael Francis on how closely they work with the NBA and college.
And remember back in the days with, you know, UNLV,
and you would hear stories about some of the guys in Vegas.
They would go to UNLV and LJ and Stacey Ogman and Jerry Tarkini.
Of course, a lot of these were allegations.
But what is the mob's approach when it comes on to NBA players?
Why is it that a lot of the mob is tied and they tar?
target NBA. And by the way, this may open up to the NFL. Stephen A. Smith said, you know, they may be coming after the NFL. They may be coming after WMBA. What is the mob's approach when it comes on to working with the NBA?
Yeah, it's not just the NBA. This is going to be widespread into other, you know, professional sporting teams also. And, you know, it's just a situation where, you know, you're hanging out with the wrong people different times and people are connected to the mob and you get comfortable with somebody. You think they're your friend. And the next thing you know, they have.
have something on you or you're in an enormous amount of debt to them for some reason,
and they have their claws into you, and they're going to put pressure on you to do things for
them in regard to, you know, information so that they can continue to make, you know,
millions and millions of dollars. So, you know, in my situation, I remember I thought I was just
going to give the guy the picks for three months and be done with it. And the FBI agent said
they would have never, you know, released you. You were their golden goose. And if you would have
stop giving them the picks that they want it, they would end up killing you.
So, you know, the mob is the mob, and it's still prevalent in the United States of America.
I know people think that it's not, but, you know, it's still, you know, working very, very hard.
Adam.
Tim, how big is the Vegas effect here?
Because if you scroll back X amount of years ago, there were no professional teams in Vegas.
But the NBA Summer League is based in Vegas.
We know that they have the Raiders now.
I believe they have a WNBA team.
I think LeBron is trying to bring an actual NBA team to Vegas.
We know that the mafia was located in Vegas.
People think that the mafia went away and they're just podcasters.
Now they're clearly out there.
How big is the Vegas effect here, in your opinion?
You know, I think that, you know, every, you used to always be told you couldn't go to Vegas, stay away from Vegas.
It was nothing but trouble.
I think it's just a matter of there's a market out there and they want to improve the bottom line.
So, you know, they move into Vegas.
You know, you mentioned the Summer League for the NBA out in Vegas.
They put it out in Vegas because they wanted the attraction for, you know,
some of the bigger players to go out there and watch and, you know, it exploded out there
because, you know, people went to see it and they loved it and loved going to Vegas.
So it's all about the bottom dollar when it comes to, you know, moving out to Vegas
and expanding the different areas.
And you were found, I don't know exactly.
I remember it was the 2007.
I believe that you were alleged.
Yeah, 2007, I was found guilty of gambling and wire fraud for passing inside information over state lines.
Okay, bingo, the inside information here.
So whether it's in the stock market, whether it's in sports gambling, explain the difference maybe between what you were accused of or guilty of versus what actual player.
You were a referee.
These are players, coaches.
Explain the difference in your opinion.
You know, I think the difference between me and, say, Rozier is the fact that he went out onto the floor, basically pulled himself off the,
floor because he didn't want to go over a certain amount of points knowing that there was
bets that were going to hit in regard to the amount of points that he was supposed to score.
You know, my situation was I didn't go out and actually fix games like that.
That's fixing of a game, which is a much higher penalty than just passing along information
about injuries and different things that, you know, you learned about the game that I was going
to officiate that night.
So I think he actually went out and fixed the outcome.
of a bet. So, you know, I think he's probably in the most trouble of the, of the three.
And for the record, how much do NBA referees make a year?
They do very well. A referee that goes all the way up to the NBA finals is going to probably
make a little bit over 500 grand a year. A lower level guy is going to make somewhere around,
you know, 200, 225 a year. Okay, but this is good money, but this is an NBA, you know,
max salary, even minimum vet money. That's 5, 10, 20, 50 million.
Terry Rozier, I mean, I think he's made over
$100 million in his career.
He plays for my Miami Heat right now.
Why in the hell would someone
has made over $100 million
waste their time and their reputation
on a $100,000 bet?
Explain to me the mind of a player.
That's why I think there's something weird going on here.
160 million.
Great question. Great question.
But what you have to realize is that,
you know, gambling addiction is just like
drugs and alcohol.
And, you know, you get a high from that.
I got a high from it. I enjoy doing it.
single day in my life. So there's a possibility that he may be addicted to gambling and he just
liked the high of doing that. So, you know, people don't realize it, but gambling is just as
powerful of an addiction as drugs and alcohol. Have guys reached out to you with any news
of any other names that are being targeted or you haven't heard anything else?
I have not heard anything else, but like I said, this is the tip of the iceberg.
When you talk about an investigation of this level, the FBI being involved, you know,
Billups is going to sit down with them, Rozier is going to sit down, Jones is going to sit down,
they're going to be facing, you know, 10, 15, 20 years in jail.
They're going to literally scare the shit out of them, and they're going to cooperate because,
you know, the last thing you want to do is sitting in jail cell for the next 20 years of
your life when you have a family at home.
And it's going to be widespread.
They're going to be a lot of other big names involved in this.
I don't believe that the NBA
is going to be able to cover something like this up.
By the way,
I was just going to say, Tim,
when it comes to, like, I just thought about it,
even college, like college games,
I showed Pat a clip last week about a guy,
a team that could have just kneeled the ball and won.
He ran all the way back into his own end zone for a safety
and it messed up the spread.
So this is, I mean, like you said,
this is who knows how far this is going to go.
But at the end of the day, Tim,
When it comes to this type of gambling, you can never be 100% because some people won't be that careless when it comes to the wire fraud.
It can be a cash thing.
You can't stop cheating in sports, period.
You can't.
Right.
And I think the next big scandal from here is going to be at the college level.
When you talk about a lot of these young kids who aren't going to make it to that next level and make millions and millions of dollars, you know, you're going to have some of these mob guys go up to them and say, hey, listen, the spreads 15.
just win by 11, 12, or 13.
Here's 50 grand.
Let's do that three or four times this year before you graduate
so you don't leave here, painless.
You have money for your family.
So I think that you're going to find, you know,
in the near future, something like that happening at the college level.
Tim, back to NBA.
I want to understand the concept of tanking,
whether it's in one game or in a season.
Because if this thing goes back to where I think it's going,
and I'm going down like Vinny goes down to Epstein Rabbit Hole,
I'm going down the, hey, how you doing whoever's in the back over there?
That's my girlfriend, Lars.
How you doing? No worries. It's all good.
So this thing, if you go back to 2023,
Chauncey Billups, I believe he's not even the coach of Portland yet,
but everybody's in the tanking Olympics for the greatest potential player
that we've seen since LeBron, and this guy is Victor Wembeama.
We all know who this is.
This guy just came out of the first game in the season,
7'4, put up 40 points, ridiculous player.
How much of the tanking?
They were trying to get rid of Damien Lillard,
or he was going to go to Milwaukee, Yannis.
How much of this has to do with tanking,
trying to get the greatest player of this generation,
Wembeiyama, losing games?
So the question is how much of this is tanking, Tim?
Yep.
You know, a lot of it's tanking.
I mean, if you look at it over the years,
the NBA hasn't been able to get rid of tanking.
So it's something that they have to figure out.
They have a lot of issues at hand
between gambling and tanking
and these players sitting out during, you know,
the end of the year.
So I think the NBA is really in a lot of trouble
with a lot of different things
and they need to work some things out
or this league's going to fall apart
to be like the 70s again
before Bird and Magic
and Jordan became a part of the league.
It's funny because if you notice
when they brought Michael back
to do the show that he's doing,
is that a part of, hey, we kind of need the attention back?
We need somebody to excite the generation.
Who knows?
But Tim, appreciate you for taking the time.
I know probably everybody's reaching out
to ask you. I saw you on News Nation as well.
So appreciate you again for taking the time, buddy.
You got it, pal. Anytime. Appreciate you call me.
Take care. Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye. So here's what Stephen A had to say about this.
Rob, if you want to play this. Because Stephen A had a complete different take on this.
And by the way, when I said Adam Silver, the commissioner of the NBA, go to that.
That's three days ago. So he knew he was coming. And he went on McAfee.
And he talked about legalized betting to monitor. So nobody knew why
Adam Silver all of a sudden is going on
Pat McAfee. Wow. And then two days
later, Cash does what he does. But here's what
first take Stephen A. had to say
in regards to this. Go ahead, Rob.
For one incident after
another, have I said
Trump
is coming.
He's coming.
I'm going to say it on national television again.
Bad Bunny is
performing at the Super Bowl, and all of a sudden, you
hearing ICE is going to be there.
Looking to engage in Mazdie,
deportations, the Super Bowl,
disrupting things,
big night for the NBA,
when Bihanna put on the show,
that has now been smeared
because we're talking about this story,
okay? Remember,
Trump has a long, long history
connected to the world of sports because
he had those casinos. Where do you think folks
were coming half the time? I'm not talking
about individuals. I'm talking about the culture.
When people want to
go to a casino, when people want to gamble,
when people want to party, whatever the case may be,
This was his kind of connection to that.
Why am I glad you're here, Monica?
Because don't be surprised that the WNBA is next on his list.
Because when you've got all of these protests that have been going out there
and people that have been protesting against them and what have you,
this man is coming.
He's coming.
And I've been saying it for a long time.
And to me, this is the latest nugget of evidence that we're talking about right here.
That's not to question the legitimacy of the.
the case we don't know. We're all sitting up here
and we're saying that we don't know. He continues to say he's coming to the
NBA, to WMBA, to NFL, to this, to a few
different things. Vinny, where are you at what Stephen A is saying?
Listen, with all the respect, and I know he's probably
going to make a video going, Vinny, I don't give up
what you think. I hear you, Vinny. Yeah, yeah. Well, I love
Stephen A, like, no joke to death, Pat, but this is a horrible,
horrible take. To think that Donald Trump,
with all the stuff that he has going on, he is
out there going, hey, go after the NBA
make a cake. No, no, no. Give me a freaking break. You know why Cash Patel is involved? Because
the mafia is involved. The Lucchese, Gambino, Genovese, Bonano. And by the way, let's just,
let's all talk. This didn't start under Trump, Stephen A. This started under the Autopened
Administration. This happened two years ago, and they're building a case. My beef is,
listen, I'm not saying I can care less, but sports schmorts. All right, Virginia Goufrey,
her book came out where she's saying
well-known prime minister
and all these billionaires
raped sex traffic beat her
bloody nobody
sports sports that's the real
problem and you know what when it comes to it
I understand why Stephen has to take this point
I understand Tom
who owns ESPN
didn't Disney who's his boss
let me ask you another question
Tom what did you know
that guess who just signed
a deal recently with the NBA
from 2025-26 season to 2035 to 2036,
11 years 76 billion dollars.
Take a wild guess, Tom.
Yeah, ESPN that's currently sitting in the office going, man, I don't know.
Disney.
Yeah, Disney.
So I get it that he has to have this attitude.
But to have to say that Trump is purposely doing this to go after it,
that's a stretch.
Do not get me wrong.
I want Trump to go after everybody.
meaning the Brennan's, the Obamas, the Hillary, the Komi's.
Good.
I want that.
I want accountability.
I want retribution because we deserve it.
But to have this, bro, this is, this goes back to the mafia.
This goes back to sportsmen.
What clip do you have?
What clip do you have of the way they were doing the gambling thing?
Rob, do you have that?
Pat, this is a POV through the glasses of how,
because Tronstein and all these guys are accused of cheating and poker.
These are the, like, the glasses.
Seven million bucks.
Watch this.
These are the glasses, looking through the glasses of how you can look at the
card ready for this you wear sunglasses at the table look at that crap stop look at that
you're you're cooked you're cooked there's a king that's a three that's a queen you know who's betting
you know who's going all you know you know everything you know what cards they have in their hands
okay and mind you but again put the trump crap aside for two seconds everybody wants to go to
trump imagine all the livelihoods gone somebody that's like oh they're gonna win they're gonna
win. And you're cheating like that. They're throwing
freaking games. Is this
where ESPN took off the ESPN
bet? Yeah. This is during the
can we play this Rob? Can we play ESPN?
Time and place. Oh, look. They just watch this
on the bottom right. ESPN bet. They're
talking about betting and then all of a sudden
boom, they take it off. This is huge.
This is huge. But again, going back to Trump,
everything has to go to Trump.
Did they break the law? Hold on. Did they
break the law? Okay, we're going to all find out.
Was there cheating? Was there happening? Was there happening?
If it's a yes, stop this Trump nonsense.
Does come on, move on.
And good if he's coming.
If they broke the law, good.
Did you see Cash's response to Stephen A?
Yeah, play Cash's response too.
You can see Cash's response?
But it's come on, man.
I love Stephen A, but Cash came at your buddy.
No, come on.
He's like, while you're pulling it up, I can summarize.
He goes, that's the dumbest thing I ever heard.
I've heard some dumb things.
That is the dumbest accusation ever.
Do you have it?
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, down the street.
By the way, this was so wild.
Stephen A. Smith, the sports commentator, suggested that this was revenge from the president
for all the kind of left-wing activism of the NBA. Your response to that, 15 seconds.
I'm the FBI director. I decide which arrest to conduct and which not to conduct.
That may be the single dumbest thing I've ever heard out of anyone in modern history.
And I live most of my time in Washington, D.C. It's right up there with Adam Schiff.
We arrest people for crimes.
I mean, let me ask you a question.
I'm got you honest question.
I'll give you my...
Do you think?
Do you think?
Because, yeah, LeBron, all them, BLM, bashing him, Popovich, everybody talking shit, and bashing Trump for all the years?
Do you think this was, like, on a list of stuff?
And Trump said, yeah, you know what?
Why don't you just...
No.
Okay.
So that's what I'm saying.
Like, Trump, with all the shit that he's doing, with all the peace deals, with the border, with tariffs, he's sitting there worrying about the NBA.
Bro, this is scraps.
This is scraps.
But this is still something serious where there's money involved and the mafia is back.
Oh, yeah.
What did I think?
The mafia, like you said, they retired.
You think all the families went, oh, because Giuliani came and did all,
and they're all that said, no, no, those families are still around and they're still doing their family.
I want to get your perspective on the mafia for sure.
I don't know if you, you know, if you spoke to Michael or Sam of these guys,
but let me give you my perspective on the NBA.
And I've spoken with some NBA friends of mine.
And, you know, the NBA stands for National Basketball Association.
It also stands for no betting allowed.
which nobody abides by.
You know, you talk about bringing Michael Jordan back.
This is the worst time to bring Michael Jordan back
because the one blemish on his career
was the alleged gambling thing that he did
that led him to baseball for a few years.
So that's very interesting.
But the NBA definitely has a culture of gambling problem.
Here's Shaq right here basically saying,
listen, someone who played 19 seasons of the league,
I have teammates in Vegas,
and they clarified, I don't think I want to sit up here
and be hypocritical about certain things.
We've been on teams.
We played cards.
We played spades.
We played Tonk.
I don't want to sit up here and act like
I'm some perfect guy and then I'll go
to Vegas and I'll play some crabs real out. There's nothing wrong
with gambling. The problem is where it gets
sort of like masqueraded as like
what's right, what's wrong, what can you do,
what can you not do? And then you have things
like fan duel, you have things like draft kings, you have
like fantasy. It's all sort of
intermingled into the culture of
sports and sports betting. But if I
can be specific about Trump, the reason
that Trump has no involvement in this
is because there's been two separate operations
ongoing for years. The one
operation, which Chauncey Phillips is involved with, it's called Operation Royal Flush.
And the mafia was involved in that.
We can discuss that.
The second investigation was somebody called Operation Nothing But Net, which is the Terry
Rozier and the Damon Jones thing, which is basically take the under in the bet because
this guy ain't going to do so good tonight.
But the thing with Chauncey, it's interesting.
You talked about it, all these like run by the mafia, these x-ray glasses, these
special things that are going on, these signals.
Chauncee, it would seem to me, by the way, if you ask me who my top five ever players ever,
Chauncey would be in my top five.
Isaiah Thomas, Chauncey Billups, D. Wade, straight up. Miami and Detroit.
Chauncey was nothing more than a bait of a lure to get famous or, sorry, rich people to play in this game.
In my opinion, I could be totally wrong.
Choncy is a complete pawn here.
They said, come to the game.
They call it a face card.
going to bring someone like Chauncey to come in.
Like you said you played with Vince Vaughn or all these people, these names.
So all these rich people, believe me, nobody's broke at this table.
You're playing $10,000 hands, $50,000 hands.
You're losing $10 million bucks and you come back to the next night.
Some of these guys were excited to lose to a famous person like Chauncey.
That's all that's all operation.
It was rigged.
It was fixed.
The second thing is a little weirder because now you're talking about actual players and actual games
who are doing things potentially.
that are hindering the game.
So Terry's one thing,
and I know Terry plays in Miami.
I think we've already addressed that.
So where are you going with this?
Because we're rehashing the same thing three times.
I'll tell you where it gets weird here.
Tell us.
The thing with Damon Jones,
do you know the one thing that you could say
about Damon Jones' his career?
Most people have never even heard about him.
What's that? He is a LeBron guy.
He is as attached to LeBron as any player potentially.
He played with Shaq in 2005, 2006,
played for the heat.
Leaves the Heat.
goes to place with LeBron wins a championship.
Sorry, goes to the finals with LeBron,
I believe in 2007,
and I believe he was one of the coaches
on the championship team.
But make your point, Adam.
So the point is, don't be shocked
if this goes all the way to LeBron,
and I'm not saying LeBron had anything to do with it,
but don't be shocked.
If LeBron's name comes up
and whatever LeBron is working on
trying to get a team in Vegas
gets severely affected
by his relationship with Damon Jones.
Yeah, so the part where what Stephen A is saying
is that I agree with, is not that this is Trump's doing.
Yeah, I think the investigation started two years ago
and all of a sudden now it's coming up to a point like this.
But the part of a Trump, you know, with the FBI talking about this,
when Tim Donahy got caught, was it FBI going on the public and announcing it?
I don't know.
I don't know what the case study is with that.
But do I think Cash called and said, hey, here's what we just find out.
Should we do a press conference or not do a press conference?
Do I think Trump would say do a press conference?
Yeah, I think Trump would say do a press conference.
You think Cash is doing that press conference without getting approval by Trump?
No way in the world.
Trump's going to give the approval on that press conference.
And on top of that, with the whole thing when, you know, Trump, NBA finals,
everything that was going on with COVID, all that stuff that they did.
Yeah, all that BLM and, you know, end racism bullshit that they kept re-igniting racism.
Yeah, I think that part, remember, LeBron called the president a.
Bumb. Don't forget that.
LeBron called the president a bum, okay? A bum.
So guess what? You know, yeah, the president has a very
quick, long memory. He's going to remember when you said that.
You know, a bum after Steph Curry. Is this Snopes or where are you on, Rob?
Is this? BBC.
There you go. He called him a bum after the whole Steph Curry thing.
So great. If that's what you want to do, Michael never did that.
Kobe never did that. Magic never did that.
You're the first one that wants you to do it.
You're the face of the league and you're using the ME to do this.
No wonder, today I'm in the car talking to my guy.
And my guy is saying the fact that he can't wait for the date that LeBron retires and leaves the game.
You know, he made the game worse for the NBA.
So I think that part would Trump?
You make Trump an enemy?
I saw a clip yesterday of Dana White.
I love what Dana Six.
I fully related to what Dana White said.
He says, I am a very good friend.
Very good friend.
I'm a very good person to be friends.
with. But if you want to be my enemy, I'm also very good at that. You want to be an enemy
of Trump. He will never, ever forget until he gets his vengeance or an apology. One of the two.
The apology, quick, you move on. And the NBA has not been friends with Trump. Let's face it,
the NBA has not been that friendly to him. So in that part of the context, I do think there's
something there that the president wouldn't be happy about it. But anyways, let's go to
next door here on what's going on with this. Tom, I'm going to come to you with this one.
Is the ballroom, okay? But play the clips with the ballroom, Rob. So the east wing at the White
House, they demolished it. And people are losing their mind of what's going on over here.
Oh, my God. Look what he's doing. He's doing it with the taxpayer money. Rob, if you have any of these
clips here that you're going through, you know, who is paying for Trump's White House ballroom,
page 10, you know, there's
these clips. Is this him, by the way?
Trump comments. So everybody's like, he's going to be doing this
and then all of a sudden, here's what the president
had to say. Go ahead, Rob.
I thought I'd bring this out because this
is going to be probably
the finest ballroom ever built
and we're doing it. No cost
to the country. It's being put, the money's
being put in by me and donors.
Very great
patriots, actually.
And the spirit on the building of it is
amazing. We are using little
sections of footings and various other things but that's sort of irrelevant in order to do it
properly we had to take down the existing structure the way it was shown it looked like we were
touching the white house we don't touch the white house that's a bridge at last bridge going from
the white house to the ballroom then you get into the lobby of the ballroom and then you go into
the magnificent the main room and it's something that has gotten incredible reviews
okay so that's let me read this to you so it's a 250 million out of
project. Mystery continues to swirl run the identities of the wealthy donors of corporations
paying for groundbreaking for the ornate 90,000 square foot project began on Monday with
excavators and construction workers, tearing out portions of the east wing. The president has
said that he personally will pay for it. The funding model has sparked concerns for among
some legal experts who say it may amount to paying for access to the administration. I.
he do an enormous ballroom as an ethics nightmare, Richard Painter, a former chief ethics lawyer in Bush's White House between 05 and 07, told the BBC, it's using access to the White House to raise money.
I don't like it.
He added these corporations all want something from the government, a dinner for potential donors held out of White House on October 15, included senior executives of prominent U.S. companies, including Blackstone, OpenAI, Microsoft, Microsoft, Amazon, Google, and others.
So that's what they're saying.
Now, some people, by the way, if you can show what it looks like, Rob, the construction that it started, there's actually, if you see it, I mean, they're already.
They're going.
Good.
Yeah.
It's not even a, it's not even a, you know.
Oh, there it is.
Yeah, right there.
It's not even something that is like they're thinking about doing it in 2026.
They're thinking about doing it in 2028.
Nope.
They're at it.
And you just have to picture what they're thinking about building right there.
So the demolition is taking place on the east wing over there.
And while this is happening, everybody, President Trump is doing this to the White House.
Tom shared this with us.
If you go to whitehouse.gov slash renovations, this is what you will see on the White House website.
I mean, this is like the ultimate troll.
This man is using the White House website to troll other people.
Watch this.
Brace for it.
If you're driving, pull over.
Go ahead, Rob.
So that's rebuilding.
Rebuilding after World War 1812.
Thank you British.
Edition of South Portico.
Okay.
Edition of North Puerto Rico.
Okay.
Nice.
Keep going.
Very nice.
West Wing.
So so far everything is good.
Yeah.
Oval Office.
Respect.
They've always been building.
Rose Garden.
East Wing.
Beautiful.
Total reconstruction.
Nice.
The briefing room.
Bill Clinton scandal.
Muslim brother.
A Muslim.
Tennis pavilion.
Cocaine.
Cocaine.
Trans Day of Visibility.
North and Southlike.
Rosegar Renovations.
Oval Office renovations.
East Wing renovations.
He is the funniest.
I'll tell you.
Guy ever.
He just trolled these people.
The fact is, everybody
forgets when Obama tore up
a corner of what was out there
because he wanted a better basketball court.
Richard Nixon
put a bowling alley
down in the basement.
where there was some other office areas, things were moved around.
The one thing that's been constant about the White House,
it's been an evolving state of change.
For security, there were these rumors that there is a large underground
that's been built there, bunker, because they said there was all this dirt coming out,
and there was this area they've been working on, working on, working on.
And by the way, if there's a secure room and that down underneath,
you know what, then American people, we need that.
We need to protect the guy when we've got the,
war but change has been constant improvement have been constant nobody is talking about the objective
discussions when obama and biden had tents because more and more people are coming to events they
put tents on the lawn like the like the goldberg bar mitzvah on fisher island whoa whoa you were
there yes i was there i gave irving the envelope first kid so it's basically
you've got these and people
were saying at the time, can't we
do something better?
But guess what? Did it get
headlines in the news? No.
This is actually what happened when Obama did it for
376. Go ahead, Rob.
Sounds like you're building another wing to the White House,
but we appreciate you keeping your focus.
You can't even imagine, TJ. It's going to happen for the next two years.
All of the banging, the jackhammering, the dust, the
confusion, the noise of all places
to do construction is happening right here.
The front lawn of the White House.
Yes.
It's a four-year renovation project.
Estimated costs $376 million.
Taxpayer.
That is not your building.
You don't own that building.
That is the people's building.
You don't want it.
That's witness.
Okay.
So that's the view.
That's the view talking about Trump right now,
and the clips everyone saw was all the renovation that Obama did.
But I think what's approach is.
is where Don Jr. here reminds Hillary Clinton, that's not your spoon.
Bring it back to the White House. Go ahead, Rob.
There we go. Democrats freaking out about it is absolutely insane. I think the greatest irony
that I saw in all of this was Hillary Clinton talking about it being the people's house.
Hillary Clinton, who with her husband literally had to return furniture and silverware that they
stole from the White House. That was actually the property of the people. They took it with them
after their term, they had to return it because people caught them stealing the furniture.
She's the one that's leading the charge complaining about this thing. It's absolutely nuts.
This is for the betterment of the property. It costs the American taxpayer nothing.
And it's going to add value, not just to my father's presidency, but to every president after him,
because it's going to take some time to build. The reality is every president after him
will get much more use and much more benefit from this incredible addition to the White House.
That's it. Donald Trump, Donald, the president has them jumping from here.
And by the way, Obama's was in 2009, almost $400 million of taxpayer money during a recession, mind you.
Trump is doing this with his money and his donor money.
Everyone has done something. Point one, point two. This time it's costing the taxpayer zero.
Zero money. So just cry me a freaking river. You know what the Democrats should be doing?
But give the spoon back. Yeah, you know what Democrats should be doing, Tom?
How about open up the government again?
Okay, who get, Hakeem Jeffries, everybody has something to say.
People like my sister are literally home, furloughed, not getting paid,
and they voted yesterday not to pay them anything.
Your sister is the government, hardworking IRS employee.
She works for freaking the Space Force, and she's unemployed right now.
She's sitting around because these idiots, this is what they worried about.
He's doing construction.
It's the people.
How about shut up, get back in there, and open up the government?
That's what matters, Pat.
I don't give, again, this is a nothing burger.
Who gives a damn?
Let him make it better.
Okay, it's making it better for the next president.
Hopefully it'll never be another Democrat, but we know it's going to happen.
But look, this is them.
They shut down yesterday again, and they refuse to pay the people that are not working for the government.
It's just stupid.
Adam.
Stupid.
Well, listen, just when I thought someone was going to give Trump a little bit of credit after the Middle East peace deal,
just a little bit of glimmer of hope of actually being conciliatory and some reconciliation
and actually giving credit where credits do,
you know, they just end up doing a $1.80 and completely crap.
That's why they're screaming.
Yeah.
If there's one thing, if there's one thing that you can at least give Trump credit for,
whether you're political, apolitical, doesn't matter.
The dude builds nice things.
I mean, what we've stated at Trump Hotel,
we've been to Trump Tower, we've spent time at Mar-a-Lago.
Whether you like him or not,
every single one of his properties is ridiculous.
Five-star to the fullest extent.
They may have some gold toilets, but there's nothing wrong with that.
The dude knows how to build.
So the fact that he's leading the charge on building a potential way of...
He knows what he's doing.
He knows what he's doing.
He knows what he's doing.
But you know who's...
You know Tom's four-woman?
She's actually leading the charge.
I heard about that.
I don't want to bring it up, but I heard about that.
You don't want to talk about it.
What is this happening that actually Tony Robbins, when he was on stage at the vault,
talked about the vitriol and the trolling that's going on in our politics?
He goes, guys, you think this is new?
You think Trump invented this?
and I don't know if you can punch in a little bit.
He said, our campaigns have always been this ugly.
And he gives this story about how I think it was Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, I believe.
He's empowering, mistress.
He's saying, if you elect Thomas Jefferson, murder, robbery, rape, incest, and adultery will be practiced throughout the land.
That's on the left side.
Are you prepared to see your dwellings in flames, your female chastity violated,
or your children writhing on the pike.
This is what John Adams said about Thomas Jefferson.
And then Thomas Jefferson said,
John Adams, on the other hand,
is importing his busy importing mistresses from Europe
or trying to marry one of his sons
to the daughter of King George.
It's a hideous form of character
and neither the force or firmness of a man
nor the gentleness of a sensibility of a woman.
So they're basically saying, you're murdering, you're raping.
so we've seen this vitroling
So anybody who's like
Oh my God, I can't believe Trump is doing this
I guess this is sort of written in our DNA
as Americans. So the founding fathers
had trash chalk games. Yeah, trolling.
It's true. Tom, when you voted for Thomas Jefferson,
why did you vote for Jefferson?
I was a year too young for that
and I was down the hall in the restroom when they were saying
these things. Let's go to the next story. Next story I want
to get to is here's Brett Bear confronting
Governor J.B. Pritzker
from Chicago, from Illinois
over Chicago having a highest murder rate
And his response, Brett is almost confused.
Like, what do you mean you're not even in the top 30?
Go ahead, Rob.
Chicago have the highest murder rate of all the big cities.
Well, we are not in the top 30 in terms of our murder rate.
Indeed, our murder rate has been cut in half over the last four years.
And every year, it's gone down by double digits.
And if you look at all of the violent crime over the last four years,
they've all gone down.
The most popular in the U.S. cities, 17.47 per 100,000 population.
Chicago is number one.
Three times L.A.
Dallas, San Antonio, Phoenix, Los Angeles, New York, and San Diego.
What I'm explaining to you is when you want to fight crime.
Look, you can pull statistics up.
No, no, these are murders.
I'm explaining to you that our murder rate has been cut in half.
And very importantly, Brett, and you've got to hear this.
Very importantly, we've been doing the things that are necessary to bring crime down, right?
We've invested in community violence interruption.
Well, you notice that?
So if he cut it in half and now it's at 17, it was almost 40.
40 points.
Like, this guy's a joke.
He's a joke.
You know, this is, this is words talk, number, scream.
And this is when a politician doesn't want to talk about those numbers.
I'd rather talk about these numbers.
You know, murders are still number one.
No, no, no.
And what he wanted to do, and folks during election year, always listen to the numbers very, very carefully.
He wanted to change the dialogue to talk about violent crime and say, well, that's gone down as a Perry to come back.
and say Brett was wrong, but it's not.
The numbers are screaming.
It's hanging around J.B. Pritzker's neck.
This is something.
Now, if they've improved it, good, but not good enough.
Adam, thoughts.
I don't remember who it was saying the other day,
but it was a very insightful take on maybe the difference between a Gavin Newsom and a J.B. Pritzker.
I forget who it was, and I'll give them credit.
150 pounds.
What's that?
You said, what's the difference between the two?
That's true.
That's it. That's the end of the joke.
They said, you have to understand something about Newsom.
Newsom's playing the political game.
If he thinks it's politically expedient to go left, he'll go left, he'll go right,
he'll change his position, he'll flip-flop.
He goes, Jimmy Pritzker is a true, true progressive believer.
There's no reframing him.
He's a billionaire who's basically a progressive.
Maybe Mark Benioff, I don't know who else would fall in this category.
but he didn't earn the money.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I could be wrong on this.
J.B.
Pritzker is part of the Pritzker legacy billionaire Hyatt family
that I believe was started by his grandfather.
J.B. Pritzker, and I don't think it had to really work a day in his life to get this kind of money.
This is hand me down from family, and I'm sure he's done his thing to amplify the money, but it's very good at gambling, apparently.
But you're also a far, far, far left progressive.
I don't understand that novelty right there.
Yeah, as a member of the Pritzker family,
a wealthy owned business, family goes back decades, family significant.
Adam, where are you going?
I'm just saying that J.B. is not going to change.
He is a firm, firm, firm believer in what he believes in.
And this is just downstream that the murder rate in Chicago has been cut at half,
but it's still top 10 in the league, if you ask.
You know, you know, maybe I don't know if it has or hasn't.
He didn't produce the numbers.
That's just something you said.
By the way, can you ask Grock, Rob, if on any one of the videos that Pritzker was on,
go on any one of the videos.
No, no, just go on any of the tweets that Pritzker is saying what he's saying.
Somebody probably said, GROC, is this true that it's split in half right there?
Can you go to that and then go to bottom?
I guarantee you somebody put GROC, is this true or not?
And somebody probably just put at GROC.
That's what you want to find.
So what I'm trying to find out is, okay, so if you're not seeing it, can you just take that clip
and then put it in GROC and ask, is it true that this happened or no?
Is it true that the crime rate in Illinois split in half based on what Pritzker is saying?
Murder rate. He said the murder rate.
Because what it's going to be interesting for me is,
2027, I can't wait to see the primary on the Democratic side.
Like how are they going to hold each other accountable?
Yeah, exactly.
I can't wait to see the Democratic.
Rob, are you asking Grock or?
I am looking, I'm trying to upload the Democratic.
clip, but I can just do this.
How do you mean hold each other accountable?
And the words I agree with there, Pat, is each other, because there's going to be a ton
of them on stage thrown mud.
Oh, we have to upload the clip as...
Yeah, I was asking me to, but here, I'm just going to fact check it with Grock with
the tweet.
Yeah, it's probably the fastest way to do.
Because when these guys are on stage, Pritzker's on stage, Newsom's on stage, AOC may be
on stage, a couple of the other people are going to be on stage.
What are they going to be saying?
Like, how are they going to call each other?
right. It's going to be a softball interview. Are they going to go for each other's throat?
I'm assuming they will. They have to, right? They don't have a choice to do it. So in this thing,
if you look at L.A. Crime versus Chicago, Chicago is three times L.A. Do you see that?
Chicago was 1747. It's 4.6. Yeah, L.A. was 6.5 or something like that. So, you know,
finally some good news out of California. Yeah. It's going to be interesting when they go after the debate
and how they do it.
But if Pritzker State keeps these numbers like this by 2027, 2028,
and it doesn't improve, it may work against him.
By the way, even if Trump goes with National Guard in Chicago
and they help clear the stats,
it's only going to help him in the election for 2027.
I don't know if that makes sense or not.
So say Trump, no, government person claimed that murder rain has been cut in half
is inaccurate, whether referring to Chicago
or the state of Illinois as a whole,
I'll break you down with data below.
So go to 2009-5-18-5-2-200, 2,000.
2028-9-29-5-26-5-22-8 21-2 and there is nothing in there so go a little bit lower population
2.7 so the peak 28 it dropped 214 out of 100,000 Pritzker's administration highlights progress
of the pandemic but cut in half phrase overstates the reduction since he took office in 2019
16% higher than it was in 2019 pre-pandemic and so nothing about what he said there was true
Pat, is J.B. Pritzker, that family, that family goes deep. That family, for anybody that's read Whitney Webb's books, bro, the One Nation on their blackmail, the Pritzker family goes back. I'm curious, Rob, is Thomas Pritzker, the guy that was alleged by Virginia Gufrey for getting traffic and force to have sex with her? Is that the, is that the cousin of Thomas Pritzker, Virginia Gufrey, J.B. Is that the same family? Pritzker? I mean, how many Pritzker's are there? Is that the same Pritzker, the same Pritzker, that?
that I think she said that she was forced.
This is her words, God rest her soul,
that Thomas Pritzker, documents were unsealed, were free.
Yeah, Virginia Gufrey.
Oh, okay, so that's it, that's the family.
That's where his family is.
It's a Hyatt family.
Yeah, but still, that's still his,
I just keep hearing that name, like,
through blackmail and the history of the country
and Virginia Gufrey and sex trafficking,
and then this guy with his attitude
and, you know, making $1.4 million in Vegas going,
yeah, I just, one of the best run in the history.
history of, come on. I just click on my own. I think you probably want to move on, but I agree with
you. The first four primaries are going to be, if the order stays and they don't manipulate the
order of primaries, Democrat primaries will be New Hampshire, Iowa, South Carolina, and Nevada.
In New Hampshire, it's all about liberal values. In Iowa, it's all about the economy and the
plight of the farmer. In South Carolina, it was about crime and tax. And in Nevada, it was about
the overall economy. So the first thing you're going to see, they don't even get to a blue state
where we have to talk about some of this, Pat. So in other words, they're just going to be
spinning in BS for those first four primaries. And then suddenly they're going to have a head-on
collision with reality coming into states where people care about crime and immigration.
And good luck. You better have an answer when that shows up.
Back to your point, Vinny. J.B. Pritzker, I think, is the richest, wealthiest elected official
in the country. And downstream of that is, as, as,
Has anything been more corrupt from what we heard about coming out of Chicago, whether it was the Senate seat in Obama, whether was our friend Blagojevich, the former governor, who served some time in jail, Rahm Emanuel.
Vote early and often.
Yeah. So Chicago is as corrupt as it gets. And here's just sort of downstream of where that sort of stems from.
Okay. So let's go to page 11 here on the next story I want to get to is this is exactly, this is going to be a two-part story I'll get into.
This is exactly when Christianity will be toppled as religious majority in America, as Islam rises.
Daily Mail story for decades reciting the Pledge of Allegiance was a daily reminder that the U.S. was one nation under God,
but the Christian faith that once defined American values is on track to lose its majority status by 207.
According to Pew Research, 62% Americans say that Christians now compared to around 90% in 1970.
Damn, that is a 28% drop-off.
If the current trend continues, Pew projects it could fall to first.
46% by 2070, a decline that as Pastor Brent Madras and other religious leaders
sounding the alarm, madris of hometown hope ministries, call for an urgent call for church
renewal on his blog, warning that Christian communities have taken their eyes, eyes off the ball.
The decline comes from as other religions, most notably Islam continue to grow in the U.S.
There are roughly 100,000 more Islam annually.
While there are around 2 million fewer Christians, Muslims still remain a small minority
with around 4 million followed compared to 200 million Christians,
but their commitments are shaping differently on the ground.
The number of mosques increased 31% from 2010 to 2020,
from 2106 to 2769.
According to the Islamic Resource Center,
meanwhile, roughly 1,500 Christian churches closed during that same period.
Islam's growth in the U.S. being fueled by Muslims currently has a younger median age of 35 versus 54 for Christians,
suggesting youth adherents could accelerate the religion
growth in 2017, the center estimated immigration was
also involved
driving the boom and in February CBS found that
tens of thousands of Americans in prison
convert to Islam every year, Adam.
Well, Christians, I'm rooting for you guys
because if you don't wake up and actually get it together,
there's a little religion that's started in the Middle East
around 600-something AD and they're coming for you, buddy.
because what I will respect about Islam
they are not shy
they will tell you straight to your face
on a microphone in public
we are coming we're trying to take over
we're trying to do Sharia law
we're trying to do jihad we're coming to take
your churches and turn them into mosques
they've set it on camera with a microphone
it's not a secret so for me
you see Islam rising Christianity fading
and everyone wants to focus on the Jews
who are less than 1% of the world
so to me I would love to see Christians
have a revival we've seen
sort of a stop gap with people
after Charlie Kirk, what happened, God
forbid, God bless,
going to church again, reading the Bible again, becoming more
religious, but the trend was going
so far down that it almost
had to stop at some point.
But America is a
Christian country founded on Judeo-Christian values,
and I think a lot of people have issues
with things like
the call to prayer five times a day,
Texas, Governor Abbott just banned
Jaria law. You're going to start seeing these things pop up. The most
tangible, palpable thing that bothers me is when you have
someone like Ilhan Omar, a Somalian Muslim, attack
the President of the United States, or attack someone like Charlie Kirk, and
said that he will be forgotten in the dustpins of history. To me, that is
so disrespectful and disgusting. And she has the right to do that because
she married her brother or something happened. And now she's a signate
congressman in Little Mogadishu, Somalia, Minnesota.
But that is the prime example of what people are scared of the United States.
Someone like Ilhan Omar running the country over someone like Charlie Kirk.
And it is concerned.
I think that stat is actually, it's right, Pat.
And it's not because Islam is taking over.
It's because Christians stop fighting for what they believed in.
It gets me sick to my stomach that we help everybody all over the world.
BLM goes in the streets for a freaking junkie crackhead.
who held a gun to a pregnant girl's stomach,
burned down the whole city,
but when you have actually black lives getting murdered
and massacred in Nigeria, where are they at?
Where's the marching?
Where's the burning down?
Where's the attitude, okay?
And look around, Pat.
I know we see it.
God is erased in everything.
Every time you talk about God,
it's out of schools, it's out of courts.
Like, people used to bow their heads at games and stuff like that.
Now they just bow their needs for that woke BS, okay?
And we got, like, you have a Muslim guy
that's about to take over New York.
You talked about Minneapolis, okay?
They're getting swallowed by moral decay.
And still, Christians, what are they doing, Tom?
Just quiet.
And let's be clear, guys, Islam is not the problem.
Like you said, their people are committed.
They pray, they teach, they stand.
The problem is us.
It's the Christians who've been ashamed of their own faith, okay?
The ones who are too afraid to speak up
because they're busy chasing comfort instead of conviction.
And I'm telling you, Pat, that number.
And again, people are like, well, you guys are going to be dead.
Who gives the damn?
No, no, that's not.
If we don't stand up now, if we don't stand up now, I'm telling you, your kids and your kids' kids are going to be screwed, done deal.
5435, that's the age difference, which means they're younger like momdani's.
There's a bunch of momdani's that are coming up that they're going to be inspiring more momdani's
and gradually taking over the number one financial capital in the world, New York City, which is quite of a big day.
Can you imagine if you were a strategist for Muslim church and you said, I want to find a way to take over America,
What city should we target?
Why don't we target the financial capital of the world?
New York City.
And they're about to get it.
Yep.
So guess what?
Whoever that strategist was, you're doing a great job.
You're making progress.
Here's Madi Asan, a story by Daily Caller.
And Tom, I'm going to come to you on this story.
Medi Assan has a tantrum.
As Americans inform him, they don't want Islamic call to prayer in their neighborhoods.
This is a daily caller story.
Rob, if you want to play the clip, here's Mehdi Asan.
I think that if you can play church bells, you can pray the call to prayer.
are as American as anyone else
and don't take any BS from anyone.
Okay, that's such a short clip.
Do you have a longer clip of that?
That was the only clip that I could find.
Oh, no, there's a one-minute version of that
on that clip that I think it's good for everybody to see
because I want him to say the rest of it,
so you kind of hear where he's going with that.
But former MSMMZEOSM is on last shot
on Americans against the defense of Islamic prayer,
the Islamic call to prayer is broadcast five times daily
and serves as a prominent auditory reminder of faith
across Muslim communities. Asam went on extended rant on ex-blasting that he called right-wing
intolerance and claiming Muslim Americans face growing hostility from conservatives. I think that if
you can play church bells, Hassan can be heard saying in a video that was circulated on social media.
Republican Texas, Representative Brandon Gill quoted the video shown Hassan making those comments on
the same day sparking an exchange between two Hassan responded by pointing out that Gil's wife is Indian
American and the daughter of an immigrant, the congressman father-in-law's prominent Christian
conservative documentary filmmaker Dinesh D'Souzaa Gill in return responded to us on pointing out
that his wife is a Christian who doesn't want to hear your oppressive Muslim prayer calls.
So is that the longest one you see, Rob, there's not a longer one on that?
Is that it?
Tom, what are you at with this?
What are you thinking with this?
So if you look at the numbers and you draw a chart, you get exactly the conclusion that
they're presenting.
And really you have to put in front of it.
If the current trends continue at this date, you will have more Muslims, self-identified Muslims
than self-identified Christians in America.
Okay, yeah, you can draw it that way.
But that means everything stays the same.
But things aren't necessarily staying the same.
A study by the Barner Group last year and the year before says that there are more youth conversions
to Christ and Christianity in the U.S.
than there are older people, but there is an older group, so the average age, as the article
correctly points out, is higher. It's the war for the youth, and there are signs of definitive
change coming, but we need to cultivate it. We need to encourage it, and we need to push it
harder, and we need to be intentional about it. Five calls to prayer a day is very intentional.
getting those clerics and everything and pushing so hard on cities, that's very intentional.
Christians need to be equally intentional, but what's very interesting is those younger generations
are turning in greater numbers than the older generations.
So if all holds constant, we're going to go there.
We're going to go right where the article says.
But if we have to drive and we have to be as intentional and we have to be as caring, and why are we doing it?
We're not doing it because we want more people to eat chicken versus beef in some arbitrary decision.
That's not what it is.
This is a war for eternity and a war for souls.
And so if we want to be, you know, the great commissions in Matthew 28 at the very, very last thing that Jesus says, go into all the world.
He says, share my name, convert people, baptize them, and tell them everything as I've commanded you.
And so he's like, go, make, baptize, teach, obey. Those are the verbs in Matthew 28. And so are we taking that seriously? Are we being intentional? Things are happening with the youth. Charlie Kirk was having a huge and positive impact on the youth. Perhaps the tragedy is like Romans 828, I will make good out of every situation for my own purposes. And it may not be good as you define it on earth. So if this, nothing changes, Pat, the article's right. But we have to be intentional.
and push and there are things
that are happening that we need to ride
on and push even harder. And this is
the Medi Asan who tweeted but
took it down because he's a coward. Make
America's, make American planes crash
again. Do you remember that? This is who he
is. And Medi, if you don't like it
and guess what? Your Muslim prayer,
guess what? Go back to England where you're from.
That place is basically becoming
just Muslim. If that's what you want, go there.
This is a Christian nation.
London and Stan.
No, no, I'm sorry, bro.
Go, go do your nonsense over there and talking all that crap here.
No, I'm not playing that game.
Christians need to stand up, bro.
And because they think like, no, God will take care of it.
No, no, no, it's our job.
By the way, just basic data, Tom, nothing more, nothing less.
Muslims are having more kids, okay?
Muslims are playing offense.
Muslims are extremely intolerance.
God forbid you say something about him.
The guy in Dearborn said, I cannot wait for you to be kicked out of the city.
or leave the city.
And that day I will make a parade and celebrate
and didn't even apologize about it, right?
Remember that guy in Dearborn that's taking place?
You got Ilhan Omar, you got Rashida Talib,
you got Mandani, New York City.
You pull up in other countries
that are Muslim majority countries,
many of these countries, you can't run for office.
You can't go become a...
As a Christian.
You cannot, as a Christian.
But in America, we're a little bit too tolerant in this.
And by the way, numbers work against you, fully work against you.
If you want to be okay with this, it's inevitable that if they have more kids and more people come here and they're not like pro-America.
Like, it's not like, let me do what the Western way of doing business is.
No, no, I want to impose my way of thinking.
If you tolerate it, eventually there's going to be a fall.
And what you're seeing right now with UK will very simply happen here.
The biggest challenge in life sometimes is,
you see somebody else is going through,
so I'll never forget.
One of my guys had a very public divorce,
and it was nasty.
Another guy came up to me, and he said,
well, you see what happened?
That was your boy.
Look what he's doing.
He was a Christian this.
He was a Christian dad.
I told you all this stuff that the guy's saying about the other guy.
Be careful.
I said, be very careful bragging about the fact
that you think you have a better life
because it's going to come back to you.
Exactly a couple years later,
the same thing happened to him.
Exactly a couple years later, the same thing happened to him.
Life is a very weird thing.
So if we're sitting here watching everything that's going on in UK, it'll never happen to us, 20, 30 years later?
How to hell did it happen to you?
Were you not blind?
Did you not see what was taking place?
Let's get to next door here.
Next story here I want to talk about is what's happening with China, Russia, together.
This is very interesting what's going on here.
Trump, it was time for Russia sanctions.
Putin meeting didn't feel right.
Rob, I think you may have a clip on this one here, okay?
And what this has to do with China is very important.
Go ahead, Rob.
We canceled the meeting with President Putin.
It just didn't feel right to me.
As you know, we are going to be making a big trip next week.
Some of you are going with us.
We'll be going to Malaysia, South Korea, and Japan.
In South Korea, I'll be meeting with President Xi of China.
We have a pretty long meeting scheduled.
We can work out a lot of our questions and our doubts and our tremendous assets together.
So we look forward to that.
I think something will work out.
We have a very good relationship, but that'll be a big one.
We canceled the meeting with President Putin.
It just didn't feel right to me.
It didn't feel like we were going to get to the place we have to get, so I canceled it.
But we'll do it in the future.
Mr. President, you said as recently as yesterday, you still believe that he wants to end the war.
I do.
step to register the sanctions and put one pressure on me.
What else we want to do to encourage them to get there?
Or can you explain why you do believe what you want to be?
Yeah, that's a good question.
Today is a very big day in terms of what we're doing.
Look, these are tremendous sanctions.
These are very big.
Those are against their two big oil companies.
And we hope that they won't be on for long.
We hope that the war will be settled.
I mean, listen, he's imposing, right?
He's fully imposing with this.
And Trump and Mr. Sanctions,
Russian oil companies as the peace talk stall while he's doing this.
Everybody's wondering saying, what's the big deal with this?
Well, guess who they were selling oil too and who they were doing business with?
Weird.
Immediately, story comes out.
Exclusive.
China state oil majors suspend Russian oil buys due to sanctions.
Weird.
So now you went from what's going on with Russia to now China.
And now China is saying, listen, a lot of people.
here. I like you. We're friends. We're part of Bricks. But dude, that guy's crazy.
That guy's crazy on the other side. And I don't want to mess with that. And you better
find a way to stop this war as well because he's making our life a living hell. Yeah.
Telling you right now. Tom, what do he thinks going on over here? I'll tell you what's going
on over here. Scott Besson is over there that says, well, the big guy will be here next week.
And I think we're going to talk about some trade things. And China's still playing the long game,
Pat. They're still playing the long game. But the moves that are being made right here,
they got to make some moves.
And so they, they, there's what that's called the big four in China, PetroChina,
Sinopec, Sinoch, and Zenhai.
Those are the four big oil companies in China.
Think of that as, Vin, you think of it this way, Chevron, Exxon, Mobile, and Shell.
Okay.
Like that, like in the U.S., right?
You're like, well, you know, and by the way, Royal, Shell is Royal Dutch, but it's like the majors.
They're like, no, we're not going to buy it, we're not going to buy it, which means what does Putin not have?
money because Putin's drilling for oil
and selling it to China
well why does he need that well so he can keep his economy going and you can keep the
the war going and so this is a squeeze and so
what has happened here is next week
in Korea you're going to have Trump sit down with Z
and one of the things that they and now Z I think wants to
start on kind of a good note so he's like hey you put the sanctions on them
we stop buying
Now, China is very weasily, and so they're not changing that.
But they are definitely trying to make nice and to make things look a little bit good, Pat,
in advance of sitting down with the big dog in Korea next week.
That's what's going on.
Adam.
So here's what we've learned over the last handful of years in terms of this, like,
alliance of deplorables, if you will.
China is everybody's daddy
We thought that Iran was capable
Turns out that Iran ain't anything
I mean they're done
We thought that Russia was a world superpower
Especially militarily
They can't even beat Ukraine
China's the real boss
China's Russia's daddy
I believe that China
buys almost 50% of the Russian oil
Let me give you a quick breakdown right here
of China's of Russian gas 47% go to China it's almost half Russia's business a large percentage 38% go to India
and then you have another collectively 10, 12% that goes to the EU that goes to Turkey that goes to other things
we've even heard Trump say like what the hell's wrong with the EU you're buying Russian oil
and you're helping to fund bless you PBD you're helping to fund
the war that you're fighting against.
It makes no sense.
But if China actually cuts off Russian oil
and responds to these sanctions,
this is where Russia makes their money.
So they're the number one client of China
when it comes to gas.
And by the way, what this is showing is,
this is showing that one guy's calling all the shots
in the world.
And that's it.
Everybody's calling.
The shot caller is Trump, period.
The shot caller,
is Trump. Everybody is sitting there saying, you know, hey, we see Kissinger. Brand and I were
talking the other day a couple days ago. This thing keeps sitting this. So maybe back up a little
bit. Kissinger said the, Brian and I are talking about Kissinger. Kissinger said between the two
countries, Russia and China, you can't have all three be allies. Pick and choose one of them.
It's two against one. It's never going to be all three together. So you have to either be
UN pro China being together against Russia or UN, Russia being together against China. Whether
that this is true, strategic, or not, it's indifferent.
You said the United States could not.
You have to be either you and China is the enemy or you and Russia and China is the enemy.
It's got to be like that's never going to happen where it's all three.
You have to find a way to keep a little bit of the rivalry between the two.
There it is.
Yeah, US ought to exploit the rivalry between the two adversaries, Soviet and the people of China in his own position.
Triangular diplomacy, which refers to foreign policy,
the United States, Nixon, Kinseng, George, Kovovov, and it's tough to do.
It's tough to do.
So generally a little bit of a split between the two
allows you to control more.
And this just showed.
Because you know who's pissed off right now?
Who's pissed off right now, China?
Putin is.
It's like, what are you doing?
And what do you think she is saying?
What do you want me to do?
I need that guy.
After they all had a summit
and all walk down the path together, remember?
That's right.
And guess what Trump comes on and says.
Trump comes on and says,
China doesn't want to invade Taiwan.
Why would he say something like that?
See what happens right now?
Now he's siding with who?
He's siding with China.
Why is he siding with China?
Because he's trying to get that tariff deal done as well.
The way he is weaving and bobbing and doing what he does, Rob, go on and play that clip.
Go for it.
Potential likelihood or threat of President Xi ordering an invasion of Taiwan.
Taiwan.
2027 is also the year that...
An invasion.
West is to start rotating those U.S. and U.K. submarines.
Do you see walkers as the deterrent for China in the Indo-Pacific?
I do. I think it is, but I don't think we're going to need it. I think we'll be just fine
with China. China doesn't want to do that. First of all, the United States is the strongest
military power in the world by far. It's not even plus. We have the best equipment. We have
the best of everything. And nobody's going to mess with that. We don't have the best of
drones. I don't see that at all with President Xi. I think we're going to get along very well
as it pertains to
Taiwan and that doesn't
mean it's not the apple
of his eye because probably it is
but I don't see anything happening
we have a very good... I'm shocked Trump then and go
where are you for I can't even understand what he's
Taiwan all right
I was waiting for that time
that's like saying that's like me saying
you know having
I know that I'm on a podcast
and I'm talking to Vinny
and I say
you know
you know, my daughter's boyfriend is a good guy,
and I know he's coming over tonight.
And I say, but, you know.
You want me to come over with my gun?
I think he understands that you and me have got the biggest,
most successful shooting club here in South Florida.
And that we also have the Ninja Training Institute.
He's aware of all these wonderful businesses we have.
So I'm sure when he comes into the family,
he's just going to be a great asset.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
That's exactly what it is.
And so he sits there and he goes,
hmm, if I get married to her, better not even yell in the kitchen.
Ever, ever, say no.
So the thing is, this is the first time you're seeing possibly ever.
I mean, it's been around for a long time, but possibly ever,
where a businessman is coming in,
realizing all the leverages he has and doesn't have,
and is using them all in his benefit.
Every one of them he's using.
And he's extremely patient with the way he's approaching it.
extremely patient with the way he's approaching it.
To the point where Bill Ackman,
$9 billion guy, comes out and says
he is the best president we've ever had for business.
Here's Bill Ackman. Go ahead, Rob.
While we have you here,
got to ask you about your take on just where we are
in this economy and where we are in the markets.
What do you think? We keep talking about,
you know, we say there's a bubble in conversations
around a bubble.
Yeah. I would say there's a lot of positive.
Let me be optimistic for a moment.
I'm negative on New York if Mondami's elected,
but I'm positive on the country.
You know, clearly we have the most pro-business president we've had in a very long time.
And we also have a lot of, you know, very significant things that have been announced,
but the effects have not yet really undertaken effects.
So one, infrastructure bill from the past.
We have the more recent tax bill, which gives 100% depreciation for investment.
We have this massive AI, you know, infrastructure investment that's like building the railroads
of the, you know, they're really part of the 20th century.
We have the productivity effects of AI that are only just starting to, you know, have a significant effect.
We have interest rates coming down meaningfully, the 10 years below, you know, 4%.
We have a Fed that's accommodative, likely to sort of cut interest rates.
So these are all, I would say, very positive for the economy and for market.
There's a time where I think you wouldn't have called.
Robert, you can pause it right there.
It's funny when you're hearing a guy like this saying this, what's he telling you?
2026 is going to be a big year.
Be ready for it.
Folks, if you're watching this, sincerely, if you want to have a big 2026, if it's not ours, goes to somebody's.
But you better go into 2026 with a clear written business plan in a way you've never written it before.
I share mine on these business planning workshops that we do.
And I share key keywords.
and I typically announce what I believe last year in 2024,
I called 2025, the year of surprises.
And guess what?
A lot of surprises in 2025.
So 2026, if you got big plans and you're hearing what Ackman's talking about,
go to BPW.com, BPDW.bidavid Consulting.com,
BPW.com, registered for the December 12th.
And Rob, can you put the link below as well in the description
and in the comment section, people can see it?
We'll spend a whole day, 12 hours,
talking about how to write out a business plan.
I just wanted to ask, with everything that he's doing, like, I'm in awe.
And the way that you put it, where he's, with everything that's happening, especially with the business stuff, what would like a Kamala Harris, like, where would we be right now if she had won?
This, there's only, it's, remember this.
When you hire somebody like that and you campaign for, what are you campaigning for?
When you vote for somebody, what are you saying?
When a good girl chooses a husband, what are they saying?
When a guy is picking and choosing a wife, what are you saying?
What are you choosing a wife for?
You choose a wife and you say, I think she'll be a good mother for my kids.
I think she'll take care of me when I'm older.
I think we'll bring out the best of me, et cetera, et cetera, right?
When you marry somebody that you're like, I think this guy can be a great husband, great father,
raise good kids, protect me, provide safety, fun, travel, all that stuff.
When you pick a president, what are you saying?
You're saying the guy's going to negotiate on your behalf.
He's going to be in the room and you trust him in the room, right?
You go negotiate on our behalf.
I got you.
You go do it, right?
You go sell on our behalf.
You go get the job done on our behalf.
He's been doing it.
If you voted for Kamala, what do you think she's going to do?
Do you really think she knows how to negotiate?
Do you really, like, what are you voting for?
Like, I can see Obama.
I can see Clinton.
What are you voting for?
I definitely didn't see it with Biden.
Of course not.
And what do you do with Kamala?
So this is the part, by the way.
So when you go into 2020,
and you see the Calci and the polymarket
and the numbers that are coming up
where they're at where, you know,
the other day you pulled it up two weeks ago,
Newsom and J.D.
are neck and neck, right?
The right there, they're looking at 1-10,
one-10.
Both of them, I don't know what the numbers are right now,
Rob, if you want to pull it up.
It's dead even.
If it's Republican or Democrat in terms of a Republican-Dem
for 2020-President.
Without a name.
What are you voting for Newsom to do what?
Exactly.
Take everybody gay.
To do what?
And by the way, talking about making everybody gay.
I want to get into the story about making everybody gay.
This may be disappointing for some of you guys, you know, brace for impact.
Sharp decline in young adults identifying as transgender, non-binary analysis finds.
Hell of yes.
So this, this, and how did it happen all of a sudden?
Is this accidental that this is taking place?
Data coming in and Rob, go ahead and play this clip.
Watch this, folks.
This week, a new report from the Center for Heterodoc Social Science found that, quote,
the share of trans-identified students has effectively halved in just two years.
Take a look at this chart.
Holy crap.
Now, the three lines represent data from three separate academic institutions,
and they all show a steep decline in the number of students identifying as trans.
Now, notably, the decline occurred in 2024, alongside a robust national discussion about protecting young children from trans ideology
and life-altering surgeries.
Now, this decline came as no surprise to me.
In 2023, I brought this data to our airwaves from a study that I found in the National
Institute of Health's National Library of Medicine's database.
The article from 2016 and the International Review of Psychiatry reads in part, quote,
the conclusion from these studies is that for the majority of the children, 85.2 percent,
gender dysphoric feelings remitted around or after.
puberty. That was in 2016. So if nearly all children with gender dysphoric feelings resolve
those feelings around puberty, why is the left continually pushing life-changing, irreversible
surgery for children? Okay. So if you think about this, why do you think it half in two years?
Why do you think it happened in two years? Why did I think? Yeah, why do you think? Because the pendulum
swung back. But two years, two years ago, still Biden. Think about it, 2023.
So if you look at that chart right, Rob, if we can still keep it up so do it, folks can watch it.
2023, look at the number and look where it goes.
Yeah, it starts to drop.
So, but why 23, 23, 2020, Biden is still president.
Because people, Pat, because especially great question, especially with like the Dillamolvain, this is all during Biden.
People, it was getting shoved down our throats, no pun intended.
And then the American people were just like, no.
And that, I don't care what anybody says, guys, that is the devil.
Okay, that is the devil
Busting his ass
Trying to make everybody
Confused the youth
And then have a party
Who is pushing it down
Everybody's throats again
And then trying to convince people
That know you're in the wrong body
And they're pushing it
But Pat, you say this all the time
About bad ideas
Have bad consequences
And people woke up
Okay?
They had a good
The devil had a grip
On that generation
And I'm so happy
And I'm so proud
Of America
Like real Americans going
No, no, no, no
We're not doing it
We're not doing it.
and we're winning. You know what happened? You had stopped the madness. And when people got the
leader that immediately started cutting things off in Trump and executive orders, it was
stopping the encouragement and the madness. But there's something that went on, and I'm going to
give some voices credit. Bill Maher in the middle of the Biden administration, he started
with facts. He went out and he did one of his monologues. But in his monologue, I believe Bill really
believed it and he presented numbers. Remember he was talking about the percent of people that
identified a certain way going back to Eisenhower, then the generation that was the LBJ, then
the generation Kennedy, then here. And he goes today and he says, if this keeps up and four
generations, we're all gay, right? Or we're all identified. And so he pointed that out. But he also
pointed out, he said, he says, when I go to cocktail parties here with these Angelinos, it's fashionable
to talk about a child
who is in transition
or considering it
or identifying or dressing differently.
He said it was fashionable.
And he said,
wait a minute.
Is something in the water in California
versus, I think he said,
Cincinnati?
You see what he was pointing out?
He was pointing out
that the suggestion of parents was there.
He said, kids go through phases.
It's all phases.
And then he threw the punchline,
which was very telling.
He said, when I was 19,
years old. I wanted to be a pirate. I'm so glad that my parents didn't pluck out an eye and send me for
peg leg surgery. Which is the point, but he talked about the phases. And I think of, I think common sense
parents woke up. And when the election season came, they ran to the middle pat. The election season came
and there were, there were still pushing trans ideology, but they turned it down in certain states
regionally because it wasn't a winning angle on a national vote.
What do you think, Pat?
Why the two-year mark?
Yeah.
You're saying why the two-year mark?
To me, it's a couple different things.
So what was the main driver for trans?
If you think about when it started peaking.
I'll tell you.
What?
TikTok.
That's exactly what I wrote here.
Yep.
Yeah.
Because TikTok came out, I believe, in 2019.
If you look at that graph, the last one, Rob.
And that was China ran in.
Let me tell you something, bro.
Gen Z never had a chance.
They never had a chance.
They're living in the first generation in human history that this was given to them day one.
Day one.
Now you're seeing Gen Alpha, kids 13 and under, basically Pat's kids say, no, no, no, you're not getting a phone until you're like 16 or 18.
Yeah.
These kids were given an iPad or a phone at age 10.
And if you don't think that China is up to no good with TikTok, you're sleeping under a rock.
Gen Z never had a chance.
The rise of trans and the rise of TikTok happened right around the same time.
Could you go to that other chart, Rob, right around that 20, 9?
point. Boom, you see it's skyrocket. It's the first thing you put up. So you talked about
trans being the new trend. Trans is always trending on TikTok. I mean, I've been on Instagram
for almost a decade. I never saw any trans content on Instagram or even on YouTube. It's all on
TikTok. And then you wonder why Chen Z has been so indoctrinated. Look at this.
Starting in 2019, Skyrocket. But I'm curiously, what happened? Because I mean, it didn't stop.
It didn't stop. China's still running out with things like go woke, go bro.
Let me tell you how important this is.
If you have a choice, you know how people are like,
well, Larry Ellison is going to buy TikTok
and it's going to be all message about Zionism and Israel
is what's going to happen.
You have a choice.
You have a choice between a guy owns a company that's Jewish
or a guy that owns the company that is from China
who hates your country and wants to confuse a shit out of your kids.
Which one do you choose?
You pick and choose on which one it is.
That's the reality.
but Zuckerberg. What nationality is Zuckerberg? What's his faith? Jewish. Okay. So what have you
heard with trans and any of this stuff with Facebook? Not a lot. If you remember about two years ago,
Fox did a special on transgender kid. Parents that were going through it. Do you remember that?
It was a four-minute special. We played it. I know. It's disgusting. It got to point that even Fox
News did a special on a trans family. I'm like, wait, what? You're now at this point. So
is Lachlan at the top? It's like, yeah, we should.
should maybe share a story like that with people?
No.
So I think the part is, like you said earlier,
bad ideas are getting exposed.
And the great thing about bad ideas
is just give a time.
You don't know how bad the idea is.
So all these people are excited about Mamdani.
Awesome.
Give it time.
Give it two years.
Let's see what happens there.
See what takes place.
Sometimes, this is the challenge, Vinnie.
As a parent, some things you have to let your kids go through.
You just have to let him go through it.
Dad, I'm going to put that in there.
Don't do it.
I'm going to put that in there.
Don't do it. I'm going to put that. I said don't do it. I'm going to put that. Go ahead.
Right? Okay. All right. So then that I'm going to do that. Oh, no. That's zero conversation. I'm going to do it. Sit down. This is how much.
Yeah. Zero conversation. I think America is kind of like, well, let's see what happens. Well, let's see what happens. Well, let's see what happens. Well, let's see what happens. How many people, when they got the transgender surgery done for kids?
How many, Rob, how many kids under the age of 18 took puberty blockers?
Oh, my God.
How many kids under the age of eight?
You know what puberty blockers were essentially made for, originally made for?
For pedophiles and stuff?
Originally it was made for, did you know that?
No.
Yeah.
That's exactly what it is.
Are you serious? I just shot it out of the dark.
Medical sterilization is in prison.
It was made for pedophiles to not be excited about doing what they want to do to young kids.
So like a chemical castration.
They're giving that to kids.
They're giving that to kids.
How many people actually took it?
No, that's just four years, Rob.
I mean, I want to know all time.
How evil, like how disgusting is that?
4,752 kids in America were on puberty blockers from 2017 to 2021.
And that's not even the peak.
That's not even the peak.
So imagine how many kids' lives you destroyed, literally the phrase, you destroyed, right?
You destroyed.
Yeah, let's see what happens.
Let them do it, right?
But to me, there are a few things that at the top, you have to put your foot down
and say, no, no, no, we're not going to test this out with anybody.
I think one is this with the kids, that I think we need to, I love the fact that the date,
we were there when he signed the executive order.
Do you remember that?
We were in the room when the president signed the executive order on the stage.
On the stage.
Yeah, that's right.
When we were there, so it's like, oh, boom one, boom two, boom three, boom four, right.
We're hanging out with a bunch of, you know, gee insiders or whoever they were being here.
But the point being is, that's where this reached to.
And now the other part of.
me saying that it's not something to be
tolerant about is who gets to run
for office in America. You've got to be
very protective of what the denomination can run
for office in America. I think that is a
massive, massive things. Is this the
clip? Well, it's really hard to reverse. Once you
go a certain direction, you can fake it until you make
it, but... This past for change, though.
Yeah, can you play that one clip of that one
incredible guy who
thought that he was going to stop being gay?
Tell me if you guys are buying this. Go ahead.
Do you believe that the
Lord tonight has
set you free yes sir yes turn around and tell those people i'm not gay no more i am delivered
i don't like men no more i said i like women women women women i said women i'm not gay i would not
They are men, I would not care of eyes getting bigger.
I would not.
Stop. Put on makeup.
I will not.
Is he still gay?
Oh, then he came out with like another interview.
He's like, oh, yeah, I never didn't work for me.
Sorry.
I'm still doing.
I mean serious or sarcastic?
What's that?
You're being serious?
No, I'm being dead serious.
That he ended up still being gay?
He is gay.
So you mean to tell me that was fake?
That jacket won't lie.
Jacket.
Pacillon is the one that you missed.
All right, folks, we're coming to the last part of it.
If you are watching a podcast, you have any questions for me, Vinny or Adam,
we've got a bunch of them that's been posted.
Go to, or Tom, go to Peabody Podcast Circle, post your question.
Download the app goes or post your question.
We're going to read off a couple of questions here at the end before we wrap up.
Let's do one other story before we get into this.
This next story I want to get into is, which one should I go to?
I got so many good ones here.
Should I go into?
Let's go to a business one.
Yeah, let's go to this one here, okay.
Finances are getting tied to U.S. car repos
search as more Americans default on auto loans.
Okay, so here we go with auto loans, Tom.
I'm coming to you on this one.
So alarm bills are ringing on Wall Street.
The recent collapses of tricolor,
used car seller, and subprime auto lender,
and first brands as auto parts supplier have put the
finance industry on edge almost two decades after the problem, and the subprime mortgage lending
market set the stage for the global financial risk.
When you see one cockroach, there are probably more, Jamie Diamond said, caution analyst this
week after the U.S. largest bank disclosed $170 million auto charge tied to tricolors,
bankruptcy.
Everyone should be forewarned on this one as the car lending market showed signs of strain.
Business around representations is booming.
Right now, we're overwhelmed with work, George Bedin.
who runs Midwest Recovery and Adjustment in Detroit, Chicago,
said the so-called repo man tasked with recovering vehicles
from drivers who sought on loan agreements
was eulogized in music by Bruce Springsteen
and Adams getting closer to 50 years old.
And in 1984, Alex Cox film repo man,
especially in the subprime auto market,
as are on the rise.
Tom, your thoughts on this story.
So guess what?
Not everything is good in every corner of the economy.
And in middle America, you know, we need,
jobs. We need wage growth and we need affordable housing. We can't turn away from that. For all
the good that the president is doing, there's other items that are on that agenda that he's
trying to get to. Housing starts will help people have more affordable housing. And affordable
housing means some, guess what, Vinnie, a little bit of relief on the family budget so you can
make your car payment. Weird. And so also, people went out and got these loans for vehicles
when we had a pop in the economy
and now things have tightened up a little bit.
It is said that for a lot of people in the middle class,
Pat, what was the stat that we used to talk about
in life insurance?
It was just a stat that most people were only three paychecks
away from bankruptcy, yeah.
From away from a bankruptcy
or having to borrow from friends and family
but a personal crisis with their living.
And these were single Americans living in apartments
and stuff in the middle class.
And so now what's happened is,
the market is a little bit tighter and things have happened.
This is the downstream effect of the Biden economy and what we have with all that inflation.
Things have come down, things have help, but there's more help that's needed.
And we covered last week on this podcast all those jobs that are getting built.
Well, we need more of those higher paying jobs.
We need manufacturing to come back to America.
And in the interim, there's some stress in the economy.
and when you see early warning signs
like overall credit card balance
and you know we haven't talked about that in a while Pat
we should bring that up next on the business Wednesday next week
you know America's credit card balance
we used to talk about that a lot
but we need to get back to that but this story right now
it's not gloom and doom Pat
but it is definitely a check engine light
that says hey there's stress going on out there
and the middle class still needs help
and drill baby drill that gets gas down
and heating oil down that helps
jobs help, interest rates will help, and so we're in a transition here.
Did you see that subprime auto lending is a fraction of the $1.7 trillion overall car lending business?
$1.7 trillion, Tom.
That's right. It's huge.
America's car is second to America's rent.
It's so bad Adam's Uber driver's car got repoed.
It's horrible.
That's not good.
While he was in it.
And the repo guy wanted to keep at him.
That's what I'm saying.
I thought he was handsome.
Thank you, Tom.
Well, there you have it, Rob.
Let's get into some of the questions here.
Let me know if you have any of the questions.
I'm trying to see which ones to pick here.
There's a good one from initials I.L.
Do you see that one there, Pat?
Let me go to it.
1047 a.m.
That's a great question.
And I'm going to, if it's, okay.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Isaac Lee.
Let's see, Isaac Lee.
If you can show up his picture on the Menect, if you can take his, I'll send us to you
if you want to show it up there.
Isaac Lee's got a picture.
His profile picture is a picture with Jordan Peterson.
So let's go to this.
So his question is, hey, Pat, you talk about the value of learning sales
as a 22-year-old struggling to find a career and not just a job.
How would you suggest getting into sales, learning the skill, and creating a career out of it?
Here's what I will tell you.
I don't understand the concept of being 22 years old and saying you're having a hard time
finding a job.
And you're saying career, I get it.
But remember, to me, sales, people are hiring sales everywhere.
You can go work 1099 commission anywhere.
Real estate, insurance, finance.
There are plenty of places that are hiring 1099 commission that you can go and start selling.
There's so much content online for you to learn how to sell.
There are so many different things that you can learn on how to do.
When it comes on to selling, there's plenty of books to read on sales that's available to you.
My suggestion for a 22-year-old is the following.
A lot of people are choosing, hey, what career, what this, what that.
I'm going to tell you a very complete way of thinking about this.
Instead of choosing a career to produce or a job to produce, choose a person to follow and replicate and duplicate.
That's going to give you a better life than anything.
Let you say you choose a career you want to get into, I don't know, you're going to real estate.
I want to go into real estate.
But you're working for a shitty real estate broker that's not really showing up, doesn't work that hard.
maybe it doesn't have the best ethics, and you go there.
But real estate is what you want to do.
And so you follow that person versus you go into, let you say you pick and choose,
give me another thing to sell.
Give me a product to sell, any kind of a product to sell.
Get any product to sell outside of real estate.
Let's say you want to do health insurance.
But this health insurance guy you're working for,
he is a very successful guy, great family, solid work ethic, been around it for 20 years.
He's got great contacts, great relationships, very intentional,
very tough, very strong, strong negotiator, you go work for him for three years.
You won't be the same human being three years later.
If you're watching how negotiates, if you watch how he shows up every day, if you watch how
he does everything that he does.
My suggestion is make a list of 20 people that you admire, ask your father, ask your friends,
ask teachers, professors, people you respect, who are the 20 best leaders in a local
community within a 20-mile radius, and then go work for that person.
you're going to get more working for a great person selling.
It could be furniture.
It could be anything.
You can get more working for the right person in any industry
than you will be in picky by choosing what industry we want to get into.
That would be my feedback to you, Isaac Lee, at 22 years old.
And by the way, at 21, 22 years old, I went to 4 to 10 business conferences every year.
I went to Tom Hopkins.
I went to Tony Robbins.
I went to any conferences I could find to learn about sales
and being around other people, proximity-wise, change my life.
That would be my feedback to you.
What other questions do we want to get into, Rob?
Did you see anything else?
That's right.
PBD cell system would be good for him as well.
Developers, let's see what we got here, Rob.
Are you seeing one that I should go to on the question side?
Because I got few of them in here.
Let me do one more.
All right, let's do this one here.
Is this the one?
Okay, let's go to this one.
George Karayev.
Do you see that one, Rob, if you want to pull that one up,
pull up his profile and put his picture up there so we can see it.
George Karayev.
At a Staten Island, New York.
So visualize him saying this with an accent.
PBD team.
Why do you think Stephen A came out with an accusation that Trump,
who pushed the NBA players to be investigated, arrested,
is this the race card?
Why do you go straight there before all the facts come out?
Finney, I'll come to you on this one.
What do you think?
I think, well, again, because Stephen A, you know, he kind of, you know,
he didn't vote for Kamala, did he vote for Kamala?
all of a sudden, I think, you know, Stephen A
kind of goes with the flow. He knows
how to speak. He's very articulate. His vernacular
is up there. He uses
big words. But at the same time, it's like, you
have to think, why? Why is he doing that?
Why, one day, is he calling out
Jasmine Crockett for talking
hood? She's very educated. She's
very established. But then when she's around,
she panders at front of like, hey, what's your
doctor? And going after the president, talking
Hood. That's not you. And he called her out.
And then a couple days later, I apologize.
I'm sorry. I shouldn't be talking to
black woman like that. It's like, I don't, I don't understand the LeBroning, the flip-flopping.
But again, he works for ESPN. ESPN is going to take a hit. Disney owns that.
ESPN, Disney owns a lot of stuff. The biggest contract with the NBA, so it hurts.
He has to. He can't come out and just say, hey, guys, these guys are wrong. They messed up.
They need to pay for it. No, he has to take a side. And the anti-Trump side, especially when it comes to woke Disney, it's always going to be the call.
All right. I'm going to go to the last one here. Tom, I'm coming to you with this one here.
Evie Burt, okay? It says Yorktown, but she's got a question about real estate in California.
For Tom, when will the bottom fall out on California real estate?
We're military bought in Thousand Oaks when interest rates were low.
All this California uncertainty makes me nervous on the value of real estate, not retiring there, going to sell eventually.
What do you say about that?
Well, it's very interesting because we know a real estate expert.
that's in San Diego, and he sends us charts.
And basically, right now, interest rates need to come down, number one.
But number two, there needs to be a decrease in demand.
And that is happening as people are leaving California
and as fewer people are moving into California.
The other side of it, if you're looking for, I don't know where you are,
so 1,000 Oaks, if you're looking for 1,000 Oaks,
and Westlake and some of those nicer areas, for a 50% drop in price, you're not going to see it.
As you go further from the cities, you're going to see relief in prices.
You saw what happened in San Bernardino during the crash in 2008, where they had all the new housing
built, and that's where the prices came down.
But is that where the jobs are going to be?
But you're saying not going to retire.
They're going to sell eventually.
So it looks like you're looking for the investment side.
If you're looking for the investment side, depending on your job and where it's,
takes you, you want to be in the areas that are built very, very nicely, but have the opportunity
to appreciate. Because if you find a million and a half dollars home in Thousand Oaks, California,
and you're able to get yourself into that somehow, 25 years from now, that's not going to be a
$3 million starter home. You know, it's going to be too expensive. So I don't see the bottom dropping
out, but I see you'll be able to pick and choose in the areas, which are the first drop zones as
people move out of California and the demand drops a little bit.
But, Evie, you're asking the right question.
Go get smart.
Read as much as you can.
Talk to as many realtors as you can, but be patient and know your numbers.
Know what your rent versus purchases in your area.
And it may be that renting for a couple of years and intentionally putting the rest of that money aside, put you in a good position.
There you go, in Thousand Oaks.
Shout out to folks, a Thousand Oaks.
Shout out.
Hello, Amgen.
I used to go there.
It's a very nice homes.
Anyways, all right, guys.
Moving forward, if you're having you download of Manak
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We're getting a lot of positive commentary.
But if you haven't watched the Anna Paulina Luna podcast
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She brought that.
We talked about it yesterday if you haven't seen it yet.
Go look up, PVD podcast with Anna, Paulina, Luna from yesterday.
It was absolutely bonkers.
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