PBD Podcast - Dan Bongino: Haley Endorses Trump, Butker's Speech & The Death of Cable News | PBD Podcast | Ep. 413

Starting point is 00:00:00 Second. Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so f****** like it tastes sweet victory. I know this life meant for me. Yeah, why would you bet on Goliath when we got bet David? Valuetainment, giving values contagious. This world are entrepreneurs, we gain no value to haters. I ain't running homie, look what I become.

Starting point is 00:00:20 I'm the one. All right, so we got a special guest here today for you. We've been working on this for a while. We've done stuff before. We've been on this show when he was doing the Fox, when he was doing on Fox all the time you'd see his face. And eventually we were able to get him to drive down here with the permission of his wife because he had to get approvals.

Starting point is 00:00:41 You see when you have to make decisions like this, there's like layers to to approval but he got it and we're glad he's here with us. Dan Bongino, former New York City Police Department and Secret Service agent under Bush and Obama and he's got a killer podcast called The Dan Bongino Show weekdays 11am Eastern Time on Rumble. You can go to rumble.com forward slash Bonggeeno to find them, Dan it's great to have you on. Man, finally we made it happen brother. We're doing it, huh? I saw you in the green room, UFC, I'm like, bro, this is gonna go down.

Starting point is 00:01:13 Well I almost didn't recognize you. You're doing this no matter what. I didn't realize you were so damn big. Everybody asked me, you a big guy or a small guy? I was hoping you were a little smaller. You're bigger than me, I'm like, damn. I'd like to be the biggest, I'm like an alpha, I'm a little upset about that, you know? Well no, when I saw you at UFC, I'm like an alpha. I'm a little upset about that.

Starting point is 00:01:25 Well, no. When I saw you at UFC, I'm like, holy shit, this guy looks good. You know, your body, all of it. You're looking really good. And we were talking about some of the stuff. My wife let me come down. That's exactly it. You've earned it. I do, so she does. Respect. Well, listen, we got a lot of things to go through. We got a lot of things to go through. We got a lot of stories to go through. The one thing is, anytime somebody comes on, Dan, we like to give them value, because I think that's the least we can do.

Starting point is 00:01:53 And there's this guy who lives off the street. What's the street's name? Pennsylvania? Pennsylvania Avenue? He's given marital advice on when you're getting married, why there's a benefit to marrying a girl with five sisters. I don't know if you've seen this or not. We always want to give counsel to everybody. I think it's always good when you're getting it from a president.

Starting point is 00:02:13 There's some things with Alejandro Mayorkas who's telling Neil Cavuto that they've followed everything to the T, they've not broken the law, they're doing everything they're right with, we want to get your feedback on that. Trump's new video that comes out, there's a word, blurry, that AI puts in it, unified right, that the left has gone crazy over, we'll respond to that. Biden had a few things to say about it. Joy Reid had a lot of things to say about it. And then you had Joe Biden, him saying, this is not a mistake, guys. This is what he said, him saying that we should

Starting point is 00:02:46 elect, he cannot win the reelection and that we must elect Donald Trump. That's what Joe Biden, can you imagine that? Yeah, Joe Biden said that. I'd be actually disappointed if he said the opposite. Because he always screws shit up. RFK said he's given five billion, he's up for giving five billion dollars in reparations to black farmers I want to get your thoughts on that

Starting point is 00:03:06 Christopher Waller Federal Reserve Governor says rate cuts will have to wait Tom this morning told us that Solomon came out talking about 2024 They may be zero rate cuts and a lot of people are going a little bit bonkers over that Cameron the rapper goes on CNN the guy the girl asks, host asks him about Diddy and that reaction is uncomfortable to say the least. Bill Maher was on the view chewing out Sonny. They're going back and forth on the world culture. We'll look at that. Nikki Haley comes out saying she's endorsing Trump and she'll vote for Trump which was kind of wild to see. Harrison Butker, we haven't reacted to that video yet. Maybe we will play the clip. Both Andy Reid and Mahomes said something about it, which was great

Starting point is 00:03:49 to see. Netanyahu's got a few things he's dealing with. The ICC wanted to arrest him for Israel's response to the October 7th attack. Then Michelle Beatle said some stuff about Butker. Angela Davis, who's always been about reparations, she reacts to the person, Vinnie showed us this thing here, discussing that her family owns slaves, and her level of disappointment that her own family owns slaves is entertaining to watch, to say the least. Anyways, gang, before we get into the stories, tomorrow I will be announcing a few things to everybody in regards to our merch for Memorial Day weekend.

Starting point is 00:04:27 One of them is going to be a numbered hat that a lot of people have been asking about a special hat that's come. Last time we did a numbered hat, we sold it for $99. It sold within 30 minutes, and now some of these hats are selling on eBay for $400, $500. One of them was selling for $800 because they're numbered. We'll release our second numbered hats tomorrow Stay tuned tomorrow. I believe Rob if I'm not mistaken. We have Brian Callan on on that podcast tomorrow will announce all our Announcements with the merch so stay tuned for it tomorrow having said that let's get right into it then

Starting point is 00:04:59 Thoughts on what's going on today with President Trump, Biden, all the mess, what's your thoughts for what's going on today? Well listen, you know having run for office myself and getting smoked in a couple and then having one that was close, like I think you learn more, I mean this isn't like we're not doing entrepreneurial, I thought you would be perfect. Wouldn't you agree like you kind of learn more in life by losing and winning like because sometimes when you win but you win for the wrong reasons like it was luck or So losing in politics taught me a lot, like where'd I go wrong, should be a knock on the door.

Starting point is 00:05:30 But I learned very simple lessons. And one of them, if you had to summarize campaigns, which we're going through right now, is that campaigns are really two things, triaging, the most important two things. And if you don't know this, get the hell out of politics, you're wasting everybody's freaking time. There are snapshots and soundbites. other words it's pictures how you look quick little

Starting point is 00:05:49 things people ingest and it's soundbites nobody's reading your white paper bro remember Mitt Romney I've got a white paper listen I love tax policy you want to talk about interest rates I love it economics is my passion I'll talk about it all day the hard reality is people are working for a living brother you got cab drivers architects. They're not sitting here reading your 51-page tax plan. It's a freaking sound bite. And this is why Biden, at this point, I don't want to get ahead of myself and I hate red wave talk, but I see this guy having very little chance. The snapshots are terrible. Listen, let's be honest, man. He just looks old. Trump doesn't look old. Trump is old. He doesn't look old. The snapshots are terrible. Listen, let's be honest man. He just looks old

Starting point is 00:06:29 Trump doesn't look old Trump is old. He doesn't look old. The snapshots are terrible But this soundbites bro are even worse the guys talking about erectionists. What is he doing? In Viagra erection, what is that people were like that? He's amazing mean in surrept Like and any you talk about that's what he's thinking about it Yeah, he could back remember mean with the kid shower, he's like, you don't know anything about this lunatic. But the snapshots and the soundbites are really terrible. And when you realize that most of America's busy doing their thing and they're just seeing that stuff,

Starting point is 00:06:57 nothing's working for them. That's the difference with Obama. For as much as I couldn't stand Obama, the guy gave good speech, it was all bullshit, but the guy gave good speeches and he looked up, he'd go out there and he would look. Biden can't do any of that. He can't rescue himself. Clinton was the same way.

Starting point is 00:07:12 He knew how to look presidential, even when he was doing his thing in the Oval Office. And Biden don't have that. When you were Secret Service for Bush and Obama, did you spend any time with Obama or no? A lot. Yeah, I did three years with more time with Bush, but I did three years with Bush, two years with Obama. And I saw it, I'm always honest with people. I said Obama and Clinton, Clinton was better

Starting point is 00:07:32 because I spent a little time with Clinton. I was not on the detail, but you're a post stander enough that you kind of get to see him. And so I spent about a year bouncing around the Clinton team with Hillary and him, and Clinton had it better than Obama, but Obama had this way, and I think it's why he won, despite the dreadful economy, Obamacare.

Starting point is 00:07:51 He'd go in a room, and you're an experienced guy. You've been with business people and titans. They have an air about them. It's the French call it the genesee qua. You know what it is, but when they walk in a room, even if nobody knows them, they go, that dude's a millionaire or something. Even Obama, he had that way in politics. People would walk in a room, even if nobody knows him, they go, that dude's a millionaire or something. Even Obama, he had that way in politics.

Starting point is 00:08:06 People would walk in and he would undress a Democrat right in front of you, no problem. If you got up in his grill, he'd filet you in a second. And it kinda let everybody know I'm the alpha. Biden has none of that, man, none of that. And I gotta tell you, I'm not a Bush fan either. I'm more of a conservative libertarian than he was but bush didn't really have that so much either He walked in a room and he was almost like a weak overcompensating personality, but you know Biden has none of that

Starting point is 00:08:33 He's the most weak like Narcissistic sociopathic guy the lying all the bullshit all the time and they but the help brilliant. I mean he's doing for the left Fantastic job then whatever they want But how brilliant, I mean he's doing for the left fantastic job. Dan, whatever they want, he has done to a T. But look at how they protect him and they guide him and they, you know, all those bites that you're talking about, the CNN, they're not, they're barely playing those moments. I haven't seen them.

Starting point is 00:08:56 We have to find them on X. We have to hear them from you. Pat has to show it here for us to find those really bad mess ups. But other than that, bro, they're just dragging his corpse. I agree, but I disagree a little bit. When you say it's not that he hasn't been good to the left, he's been good to the far left. You're 100 percent correct. The 25, 30 percent of the American electorate, Max, that say far left, you know,

Starting point is 00:09:18 monitor monetary theorists, all these lunatics with the economy, Obamacare, government run health care. They love him because you're correct. He is a vessel, he is a useful idiot. I always say about Biden, and you should never forget this, ever, Biden is the president Obama wanted to be, but was too politically smart to become. It's why Obama left office with 55% approval,

Starting point is 00:09:39 and Biden's gonna leave office with 30, because Obama knew, like, all right, these radical lefties, I may say I'm one of them, but that's some dumb shit. And he would stop short of absolutely crazy, he would do crazy. But now, Biden don't care. Biden's like the border, ah, F it, open it up. He's like, you know, a price rationing in Medicare,

Starting point is 00:09:58 let's do it. He doesn't care, because he's not politically savvy enough to look at his far left and go, that's a pretty dumb idea. And that's why we're in the pickle with this guy now. And that's why I'm so worried if he wins, man, we're not going to survive another four years of this guy. Well, there's a lot of people that would say that Biden is the president that Obama wanted to be because Biden is in the shadow, to me, that Obama is in the shadows, you know, propagating

Starting point is 00:10:23 a lot of his programs and his thoughts. Yeah. But you remember, like, look at think about what I just said, right. Obama, Biden is the president Obama wanted to be, but was too politically smart to become. Obama had a bad border situation, there's no doubt. But Obama's border situation on strict spreadsheet numbers, it's not a matter of opinion, was not nearly as catastrophic as Biden. Obama could have done the same thing and said,

Starting point is 00:10:47 open it up, which is effectively what Biden did. And he stopped short of it. If you look at actually deportations at the border, the Obama team was not nearly as terrible as Biden. Another thing is the spending. Just look at the spending levels. Obama, when we ran a $1 trillion deficit under the porcupine Obama spending thing, guys like you and me were like this is insane

Starting point is 00:11:07 I would kill to get back to a trillion now Biden put that in its inflation production act himself So that's what I'm trying to get at like Obama understood the political limitations of the left stupidity Biden loves to be celebrated because he's morally weak and he knows the only people who like him are the far left so you're right he Does whatever the hell they want and that's why he's at 38 percent approval Well, you hear the same it's it's the economy stupid, right? We've heard that how many years who's is it Carville? That's it at first. I'm right. Yep. Okay, so we look at the economy and you know They need they desperately need a couple rate cuts before the election They need it because that's not gonna be good if they don't get it in September They desperately need a couple rate cuts before the election.

Starting point is 00:11:45 They need it because that's not going to be good. If they don't get it in September, this election could be done just because the rates don't go down in the month of September and nothing happens until maybe in November, which is after the election, right? So if you look at right now, Fed's Waller says rate cuts will have to wait until several more months of good inflation data. Okay, so this report comes in yesterday. In the balance of a significant weakening in the labor market, I need to see several

Starting point is 00:12:10 more months of good inflation data before I would be comfortable supporting and easing in the stance of monetary policy. Waller said in a speech, Waller said in the April Consumer Price Index, data which showed a slight cooling off inflation was a welcome relief and a sign that inflation is not accelerating as a result of Fed probably will not need to raise rates. Central bankers should never say never, but the data suggests that inflation isn't accelerating and I believe the further increases in the policy rate are probably unnecessary. And Tom, you read something this morning from Solomon talking about rate cuts, because that's

Starting point is 00:12:48 Goldman Solomon you're talking about. Yeah, David Solomon, CEO of Goldman Sachs, he came out and said, look, in April, remember April, April's not that long ago, in April, as recently as April, we institutionally, Goldman, believe there's going to be two rate cuts. And we were kind of handicapping them at the September meeting and then at a later meeting. Remember, they don't do it anytime they want. They do it when they meet, which is every so many weeks. He comes out and he says that, and he points to weakness in consumer spending. That came on the heels of what Waller was

Starting point is 00:13:23 talking about. He needs to see more good inflation data. Well, the good inflation data is actually bad market data. Let me explain. Target and Walmart come out and say, hey, we're going to be reducing prices because we see the consumers spending less, so we've got to reduce prices. Well, that was after Walmart had a great quarter, and said part of their great quarter was the fact

Starting point is 00:13:45 that fast food was having it so bad McDonald's had a bad quarter which was actually good for me because I had people coming in buying meals ready to eat out of out of Walmart so that was kind of a good news bad news good news if you owned Walmart bad news if you're looking at fast food as a category and bad news if you're looking at is the consumer really pinched and the answer all that was yes then Target comes out and says listen brace yourselves We had a rough quarter and we think it's gonna be a rough quarter next time and we're actually slashing prices Holy crap now they're saying so you might as well just say we're slashing profits for the second quarter

Starting point is 00:14:18 Which is what they said so the market attacked the target stock now You've got Waller from the Fed and you've got Solomon saying, hang on folks, it's not really deflation here. Is there actually a video of Solomon saying something? Because with the article you went to, I saw a video there with his face at the top. So can you play this clip to see if he's saying something? Oh, it's a long clip. Got it.

Starting point is 00:14:39 Yeah, we don't have time to watch the whole thing. But so. So he's saying we shouldn't expect cuts because this inflation data will be good, but there's so many other things going on in the economy around the pinched consumer. He says, I don't see the, I don't see the rate cuts coming down because we actually in the midst of this still have inflation risk and inflation is hanging at three seven. Or Solomon to say that. Dan, what do you think about this?

Starting point is 00:15:02 What do you think about what Solomon is saying? Well, he's not wrong. I mean, if you look at the PPI, what the producers are paying for basically wholesale to get stuff in the door, that hasn't ebbed at all. So eventually those costs are going to have to be passed on to consumers. I mean, where do corporations get their money? Consumers. I mean, unless you're not, you know, if you don't have billions in government contracts.

Starting point is 00:15:22 But here's the issue politically, why this is such a big deal. And you know, let's be fair here, Republicans have pushed for loose fed policy too. I mean, it's not just Democrats, because they like it. I mean, obviously if money- For sure. Everything has a cost, right?

Starting point is 00:15:34 Bagel cost, what's the cost of money? The interest rate, money has a cost too. So you want money to be cheaper. You want to flow it through the economy. And it's great in an election year to say, I did it. It's fantastic. And look, you'll get home. They want the mortgage.

Starting point is 00:15:46 I mean, obviously, the home industry is very interest rate sensitive. But here's the issue Biden's going to have for the election. One, folks, it's too late. And I've warned everyone, even if Trump wins, this is not going to turn around overnight. A lot of this money hasn't even been spent yet. The Inflation Production Act, which it's obviously,

Starting point is 00:16:06 I get it, but I call it that because it did. But here's the thing about inflation, and this is where I think Biden and his team are constantly gaslighting people. You guys are very smart on the economic front. All they're talking about coming down is the rate of change, not the price. Those are not the same thing.

Starting point is 00:16:23 Prices have not come down at all. So let's just be clear, right? You get a price, whatever, this phone costs $100. It doesn't matter. Inflation, say, hits 10%. So say it hits $110. Oh, then it's 3%. Okay, so it's 111. The price never came down from 100. So Biden's running on this whole thing, like inflation's coming down. And again, people out there who aren't economists They're not stupid, but they're not economists. They're like, yeah, but I'm still paying 300 hours for groceries Like what are you talking about? And it makes him look like a phony again The sound bite is terrible talking about derivatives and the rate of change of the rate of change

Starting point is 00:16:58 It's not something the average everyday voter is gonna sit there and be like only want to know is hey man Is the Fiji water cheaper or not bro? Like it's not like this is a dead end for him. It's crazy You're saying this so yesterday We're in Maine and we don't go to Maine too often for the hell of it We go to Maine for one guy and there's a guy that lives in Maine and we did a podcast together Which is being released today. His name is disguised name is Tucker Carlson brand new brand new on the podcast scene Yeah, he's a new guy. I'll be watching now. I don't have time to watch a lot of podcasts.

Starting point is 00:17:26 I'll be watching now. But while we're there, we're staying at this Airbnb. They shouldn't call it Airbnb. It was a shack. That's not a house. But whatever. Mosquito hut. It is what it is.

Starting point is 00:17:37 So anyways, Jennifer and Sam go to 7-Eleven to buy some stuff for us to make breakfast in the morning. They come back. We're in the car going to Tucker's house, and Jen and Sam are like, how much money you think we spent at 7-Eleven? We're like, $72, more. How you know that game that you play? $110, more.

Starting point is 00:17:58 At a 7-Eleven? At a 7-Eleven! Remember when we were kids? If you spent $100 at 7-Eleven, you buy the whole store. You get the Slurpee machine. The Indian guy comes too. The ice chest gets delivered. You bring up that Shelby Raptor you have on.

Starting point is 00:18:10 You pull the ice chest right in front. It's $100 on 7-eleven. They spend $330 on it. Are you joking? Eggs, beef jerky, water, protein, bro. Orange juice. By the way, what you're saying is very important because one can watch this and they say, here we go again.

Starting point is 00:18:30 I'm not a numbers guy, man. I don't know what the hell is CPI, CPCTC and all this. I don't know any of this stuff. But what I do know is when I go to Kroger's or Albertson's or Publix or whatever I go to, we used to only spend $300 a week for the entire family. Now it's 410. That's insane. Brother, have you door dashed lately?

Starting point is 00:18:51 I am a Mr. Foo Foo Guy folks. I grew up as like poor middle class as anyone, but things worked out great thanks to the folks out there and some risks and some investments. So we used to do a lot of door. Right now, Apple Cookmore and this lady comes by and drops food off, but I was doing door dash and delivery investments. So we used to do a lot of door. Right now, like, I will cook more and this lady comes by and drops food off. But I was doing like door dash and delivery stuff. So I hadn't done it in a while,

Starting point is 00:19:10 and I honestly don't even look at the, my wife handles a credit card, so I don't see anything. She's like the business manager and everything. So she gets, this is the craziest story. We have all these Amex points and stuff we had had, and we just wanna get rid of the accounts, so we'll like spend them. So because we don't like to book hotels that way she goes I'm gonna get them in like door dash

Starting point is 00:19:27 credits or something. There were like ten thousand dollars in door dash credits. It was a lot. She's like this should be good. That lasted, I'm not even kidding, like six weeks and we were done. I was like what the hell did we just buy? And I, brother, I swear I don't eat fancy stuff. We were talking about one of your guys, I like steak and like I don't eat fancy stuff. We were talking about one of your guys I like steak Yep, and like I don't even like fancy fish or anything. That's it. I eat like chicken. I'm not out there eating foie gras I couldn't believe it was like six weeks What the hell did we just buy from freaking door dad? That's the part where if if the american families feel that by the way, I think if you ask me

Starting point is 00:20:04 Say trump gets elected in 2025 American families feel that. By the way, I think if you ask me, say Trump gets elected in 2025, say you know 2024 and he's a president 2025, if we can keep the rates where it's at today for another year, I think it's good for people to adjust. It's not even like, hey the moment Trump gets elected I want to see the rates being cut. I think it's good for us to adjust a little bit where the fake success goes away. Fake success is very problematic, even like yesterday I'm going through some of the notes with zombie companies, right?

Starting point is 00:20:32 Where back in the day, zombie companies are companies that the only way they make money to pay their OPEX and whatever salaries, everything they're paying for, is through raising debt. So they make enough money to pay everything. If they don't raise money, they're going out of business. Right? Brother, can I disagree with you a bit on this? Tell me. I'm asking, I'm courtesy, because I love you so much.

Starting point is 00:20:52 I love this guy. I've been waiting to do this show for you guys for so long, man. I think he should actually push for a rate. I know it's, the Fed's quasi, it's not really, but it pretends to be independent. He should go with the Reagan approach, man. I mean, I crushed this thing your first year in office. Reagan's first two years in office were shit.

Starting point is 00:21:12 The economy was garbage. Volcker had interest rates up in the double digits. People were screaming and yelling, but what did it do? The problem in that Reagan inflation era Carter adjusting economy was that when you get this high inflationary environment, what do rich people do? They buy assets to protect themselves, real estate gold, and they don't buy money anymore.

Starting point is 00:21:34 When you have interest rates at 10 and 12%, I'm not saying we need them that high, we're not where we were at stagflation, thankfully, with Carter, but it's bad. The rich people like money again, and they start pouring money in the financial system, which entrepreneurs like, well, you don't need any more, but they take it, and you know, back in the day you did,

Starting point is 00:21:51 they take it, and all of a sudden it brings out wealth and investment back into the system. My humble opinion, I would come in there and say, you know what, whatever I could do to incentivize without interfering, I'd say bump the interest rates up to six and 7%. Crush this inflation right away. Rich people pour back in by in everything from T-bills to government denominated assets

Starting point is 00:22:13 to investments that are interest rate sensitive. The economy, Reagan in his last, the minute he left office, that thing was 6% GDP with a quarter of the spending we had now. That's what I think he should do. So you're saying the moment he gets elected, lower the rate. So fire power. No, no, up the rates. Oh that's what I'm saying. No, no, we're on the same page. What I'm saying is I don't want to see us next year all of a sudden bring it back down to economic expansion of you know 2 percent, 2.8 percent. I'm hoping we don't do that.

Starting point is 00:22:42 Oh good. I want people to get stable being accustomed to the 6% Mortgage rate 6 to 7 percent is what I'm talking about No, I think that whole thing with what happened with 128 months of economic expansion was catastrophic Yeah, it produced a lot of fake success and now we got a kind of filter right with the zombie company the zombie companies We used to only have one percent creative to structure bank. We got a destruction never happened Yeah, you got these garbage companies exactly stayed alive four reasons why capitalism works, right? Because we have the freedom to buy freedom to sell freedom to fail and freedom to create So if I want to build a company do it, but we've gotten rid of one of them

Starting point is 00:23:16 Which is a freedom to fail we got to let some of these guys that are doing what they're doing to fail to see What's gonna happen to them? Okay next story here Inflation still causing pain and Americans with parents hit hard in nearly a decade. This is a New York Post story having to do with parents. Normally we talk about regular individuals being hit by it, but this story is about parents. So let me see, okay, here we go. A Federal Reserve survey reveals that 64% of parents with children under the age of 18 felt financially secure in 2023, down from 69%, making it the lowest level since data collection began in 2015.

Starting point is 00:23:52 Overall, 72% of U.S. households reported being financially okay, the lowest since 2016, with inflation cited as a major concern. Inflation, which peaked at 9% in June of 2022 and was 3.4% in April of 2023 remains a significant issue with 35% of respondents naming price hikes as their main financial worry Additionally 65% of adults say high prices worsened their financial situation while only 34% report increase in income anyways Survey highlights that 19% households fell behind on rent in 2023, up from 17% in 2022. These are basic numbers you're looking at.

Starting point is 00:24:31 With a median rent increase by 10% to $1100, the percent of adults being able to cover a $400 emergency expense dropped from 68% to 63%. This is problematic. When you look at something like this, Tom, what do you think about? So it's exactly what we were just talking about. And the last podcast, I got in trouble because people thought I was picking on my brother. But now I'm going to move it to my cousin. Tom, don't do it again.

Starting point is 00:24:53 I'm not going to do it again. I'm doing it to my cousin. And it's exactly what Dan said. To the average person, you need to look at inflation this way. You have a cousin who's now 350 pounds, and he says, good news, I stopped gaining weight. But wait, you're still 350 pounds. At any moment, you could have a stroke or a heart attack and die. Ladies and gentlemen, that is exactly the inflation story here.

Starting point is 00:25:13 And that's what people are saying is like, we're feeling the cumulative pinch. And the funny thing is we didn't have the video on it, but one of the things that Solomon said says the financial sector needs to understand that inflation is not just nominal, it's cumulative. And so everything is more expensive and you're seeing the consumer, the average America, feel it and stop spending. And so what's going on right now is this is the rule. We should stop calling it inflation.

Starting point is 00:25:42 Everybody running for office, you should just call it affordability. Say, hey, look, inflation has caused an affordability crisis. And all of these stats are talking about, now, we're down to two-thirds of American homes that feel financially secure. We're under two-thirds of American homes that had an extra $400 sitting aside for an emergency expense. That's where we are right now. That's beyond scary. Forget all the, by the way, you know, we could geek out on producer price index, you know, increase the price of beef, which hit McDonald's, which hits the hamburger, which is why McDonald's is expensive. You could do that, but you just back up and say the average

Starting point is 00:26:19 person, how does it feel right now versus four years ago? And they're saying it's not affordable. And I feel like my car insurance and my groceries have been hit hardest. Dan, let me ask you a question. Because we had a poll, and we did something, where we were saying the number one issue for voting for this around was going to be, I think, border security is something.

Starting point is 00:26:36 How much is something like this? Who is this going to affect, meaning voting wise, is going to go in there and be like, I can care less about the border. They're sold on that noise. noise who is this gonna affect who are the people that are gonna be like dog this is insane is it those independents is it the people that don't know where to vote like who who is this gonna be changing to vote when you look at any of the political science

Starting point is 00:26:58 research you'll find it this is a pretty relatively stable number it's about 40% of the country is Republican or lean Republican. Another 40% is Democrat or lean Democrat. There's roughly 20% in kind of a malleable middle. Yeah. You know, that changes a little bit over time. The Democrat party is a little more liberal than it was before, but the number is generally the same. And you see it in the partisan breakdown.

Starting point is 00:27:18 There's no question that this affects the Republicans. No one's voting for Biden. Just hear it. And honestly, hardcore Democrats are not voting for Trump, no matter what. The economy collapsed tomorrow, doesn't make a difference. But this race, I'd say it's not only the 20% in the malleable middle, there's probably about 10, 15%

Starting point is 00:27:33 of Democrats, mostly minorities and younger voters, who've had enough. And the reason you asked me about the issue, the border issue was never really an issue that moved a lot of voters. It didn't. Look in the past. Just look at the data.

Starting point is 00:27:46 I'm not saying it didn't move me. I'm saying look at the data. We've run on the border forever and it's never been... Trump made it an issue and then all of a sudden people started to pay attention to it. And then Biden made, he made the border what the economy is. I call it on my podcast, I call it the finger stick issue. You know before the glucose meters, the XCOMs? You did the finger stick.

Starting point is 00:28:05 Yeah. And the finger stick, the nice thing about it is it didn't hurt that much. But the bad thing about it, it was annoying enough that you just didn't, you were bleeding and you just didn't want to do it all the time. So someone said, well, let's fix that because it's not annoying enough that people won't, well, like, oh, I'd rather die. But that's the economy. Like with inflation, it's a finger stick issue. It's not the kind of thing like street crime where God forbid you get raped or a home evade, then you're voting different the next day. You're like, this guy's screwed.

Starting point is 00:28:30 It's one of those issues like you go, you fill up, you're like, damn it again. Finger stick issues are the absolute worst issues for a politician because they never go away. You get this acute moment crime where someone breaks in your ass. That guy maybe tells 10 people and they're all pissed off and they may go away. You get this acute moment crime where someone breaks in your ass. That guy maybe tells 10 people and they're all pissed off and they may vote different.

Starting point is 00:28:49 The finger stick issues are universal. They bother people every day and they're like, you know what? I just got to get me that Dexcom. I need something, I can't do this. It's just annoying. I bled on my shirt. That's what Biden's doing.

Starting point is 00:29:01 That's why inflation is so devastating. It's pernicious, it affects everyone. People talk about it at the end. That's what Biden's doing. That's why inflation is so devastating. It's pernicious. It affects everyone. People talk about it at the kitchen table. And you don't need an acute moment in time because it's chronic. It happens over and over. That's why I think this guy's in a lot of trouble. By the way, check this out. So while we're talking about this, you don't hear regular stories about home prices coming down for the longest. Oh, you know, they're not moving. You know, realtors, you stole the same price. It's not going to go away. And then you hear a story like this. Home prices.

Starting point is 00:29:26 Home sales fall again in April after high mortgage rates damp activity. This is a Wall Street Journal story. Home sales fell 1.9% in April to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of $4.14 million, contrary to an analyst's expectation of a 1.4% increase. High mortgage rates above 7% and near record price of $407,000, up 5.7% from last year's stalling. The market during the prime selling season inventory remains low with a 3.5-month supply below the balanced market range of 4-6 months. This shortage keeps prices high, with April median prices approaching the record of $413,800, existing home sales. I mean, Tom, you see numbers like this, and even in

Starting point is 00:30:10 California and Texas, despite high rates, active listings rose 16.3% from a year earlier. Active listings, especially in Texas and Florida, with some buyers like David Rod's finding deals due to prolonged listings paying $675 for a house in Texas, $100,000 below the initial price. So are we entering an era where we're going to see a dip in home prices where inventory is going to increase, Tom? I think we're seeing inventory increase in markets across the United States, and it's regional right now. It's not everywhere, but it's regional. North Florida, Austin, Texas, San Diego are seeing a lot of inventory come

Starting point is 00:30:52 up. And people are speculating, or actually connecting dots, not speculating, they're doing good analysis, that with $1.1 trillion of credit card debt, with wages below inflation for the last four years of the long average in there, that people's next credit card is the equity in the home, including this artificial equity. When I say artificial equity, it's not equity to you to make a transaction until you sell your home.

Starting point is 00:31:22 And so I think you're gonna see inventory coming out as people say, you know, home prices may be coming down. I don't know, honey, maybe we sell it. Where are we gonna go? Maybe we lease for a while and put the money in the bank. I think that's the thinking you're seeing, and people are looking at this saying, you know what, now you've got realtors out there saying,

Starting point is 00:31:42 well, you know, gosh, Dan, you know, I need to talk to you. You know, the rates probably aren't going to come down this year. So if you're really thinking about maybe selling a house and doing something out, why not do it now? And realtors are also waving around, oh, look what's happening in North Florida. Look what's happening in Boston. So let me ask this. Let me ask this.

Starting point is 00:32:03 So this continues. They're saying rates are not going to lower. Correct. Solomon's not going to lower. Anyway, some of the feds are saying it's not going to lower. Go to, it's October. September they don't lower rates. What happens in October in real estate?

Starting point is 00:32:17 I think you're going to start seeing inventory come out even though there's nobody I've seen thinks that the interest rates are going to be below 6.75. That that's going to be the 30-year fixed. If you're over 750 credit, that's going to be the best you can find, but the rates are going to stay about seven. Sellers are going to say, well, it is what it is. I think we need to put it out there. We're seeing that right now in North Florida, Jacksonville and the corridor north of Orlando, Gainesville, the corridor that runs up Central State. We're seeing it.

Starting point is 00:32:54 Dan, what do you think? There's a weird bifurcation in the real estate market. I buy and sell all the time, so I've seen it. And I think your analysis is right. I'm going to go further. I hate predictions because you know, I'm not like, remember the clash of titans astigia in which I don't have the eye. I had the IB super rich. We'll just call ourselves analysts. That was fine. Like I'll make an analyst. I'm a reputable analyst. The real estate whole sphere is ready for a pretty decent size correction. I'll tell you why. Everything you said is spot on. But you got to remember, like let's go back to

Starting point is 00:33:27 simple basics, right? Occam's razor. Keep it simple, stupid, right? Any debt-sensitive environment, auto loans, real estate, where people are borrowing money, causes a problem. It's the monthly payment problem. Nobody goes into a car dealership and bargains on the price. They think they do, but they don't. What does the dealer come out right away? Here's your monthly payment because he knows the scam. It's not as he just knows the deal. People who don't have $40,000 for a new Honda are not paying 40. They're paying a monthly payment. So the guy does a math in his head quick and says, well, I have this bill, that bill. You have the same thing with autos and real estate. If the interest rate goes up, it's a matter

Starting point is 00:34:03 of simple math dynamics. It doesn't matter what the cost of the house is. What matters is what's the freaking monthly payment. So if the interest rate goes up, say it goes up to six, six and a half, seven, possible, not likely, but possible. All of a sudden your $500,000 home is $450, $400, $350 at the same, the same monthly payment. The buyer doesn't care. The buyer's saying, oh, it's the same amount? Well, I can't afford that home anymore. I afford less. I gotta afford less home.

Starting point is 00:34:29 You've got that problem. And when you compound that with the real wage problem where people's real wages have been negative or flat, in other words, they're not able to purchase more stuff, I don't see where this is coming. But one quick note on the bifurcation. That's in say like the 800 hundred thousand or less home million or less Which say a million is like the average price of a house in Palm Beach County. Yeah, the average price

Starting point is 00:34:51 I'm seeing at the high end in the real estate market with the cash buyers that aren't interest rate sensitive The market's not great But it's not hurting at all like you go buy and it opens up in Martin County where I am you look at the high-end Market there there are houses flying off the market, not at asking maybe, but maybe 2%, 3%, 4% below, because they're cash buyers. That's crazy. They don't care, and there's so little inventory.

Starting point is 00:35:14 A neighborhood I used to live in only had like 300 homes. One came up, boom, was gone in like two weeks. It's on, epic. Yeah. You know, what you say, there's one point in there that you didn't say, and I think it was in your analysis there, that is when the interest rate doesn't matter and the buyer is clear for $1,500 a month, the bank says, you can do $1,500 a month because with the property

Starting point is 00:35:34 tax and everything, it's about two grand, you're good for that. Guess what? If the seller wants to move it and they want to move it to that buyer, the price is what moves because that's what makes the math work. So here's my question for you guys. Here's my question. Let me be the devil's advocate on the other, because this is what, I'm going to speak as if I'm in the real estate and the mortgage industry, okay?

Starting point is 00:35:54 This is what they'll say. You guys have no clue what you're talking about. Here's why. What happened to 40% of the money that's been printed, that's been entered into the economy? Where do you think that money's gone? That means whatever property was worth $400,000 is now 40%, $560. If it was a million, it's a million-four. If it was $100, it's $140 in some of the pockets in certain parts of America. So no matter what, you guys are delusional, rates are not going to change, the market

Starting point is 00:36:21 has more money in it right now than ever before, prices are not going down. For those of you guys that are going to wait, here's what's going to take place. change, the market has more money in it right now than ever before, prices are not going down. For those of you guys that are going to wait, here's what's going to take place. The moment the first rate decrease comes up, watch what's going to happen to sales. Watch what's going to happen to mortgage. And then the second one and the third one, and then value is going to get so high that you're going to be sitting there saying, I made a mistake, I should have bought. What do you say to realtors and loan officers that say, the amount of money we printed is

Starting point is 00:36:46 the reason why the prices of homes are not going to go down? David Erickson People have got more debt than ever. Tell me how they qualify for the loan. Jeff Zirino I'd say that's a really cute analysis, if you don't understand basic math. Oh, we printed a lot of money. Where's it going to go? Okay, great.

Starting point is 00:37:02 It's going to go into products. Also, your real wages are going to go down and an interest rate sensitive product in a mortgage high interest rate environment is going to do exactly what I just said. It's going to cause the price of the house to go down as the monthly payment goes up on the interest. That's like third grade level analysis. I guess if you've read John Maynard Keynes, that makes sense. But yes, that's one side of the equation

Starting point is 00:37:25 They are a hundred percent correct, but this is zero sum if you that's a modern monetary theorist explanation Well, we print their own money. We can do whatever we want. There's no consequence. You're seeing the consequence What are you talking about? The idea of money is a vehicle right where you can develop wealth, correct? Money's not the endgame wealth is the endgame money is paper and digital bits on a phone They do nothing if you had them on an island You'd be dead in a week the idea is to acquire on the island food shelter luxury entertainment If you can't acquire those items using the vehicle money because it's worthless. That's the dumbest analysis

Starting point is 00:37:59 I've ever heard you can print all you want I mean I can print a bunch of widgets and call them money if nobody takes them. It doesn't really matter You know, you know, it's a good thing that's the dumbest analysis I've ever heard. You can print all you want. I mean I can print a bunch of widgets and call them money. If nobody takes them, it doesn't really matter. You know, it's funny you're saying that. It's funny you're saying that. This is how I process it when they say that to me. What the last four years have done, it's taking me back to that one quote by, who said, Socrates said it on his deathbed, the only thing I know is I know nothing. Who said that? Can you pull up? The only thing I know is I know nothing. I don't know who says it. Is it either Socrates or somebody said it on his deathbed? Who is it?

Starting point is 00:38:34 Socrates. Okay. So, Kraties. Yeah. Bill and Ted called him so crazy. But Biden took credit for it. But check this out. The reason why I'm saying this, the last four years, what's the first thing that's supposed to go up when they print all this money gold gold didn't move What's supposed? I mean so many things happened the last four years that the case study to go back and look at it

Starting point is 00:38:56 We don't have a case study of that. But you know why gold didn't move. Look at what happened with Bitcoin gold move now gold 2400 Now I love gold I buy it all the time, But I'm not one of these anti-Bitcoin guys at all. I never buy what I really don't deeply understand. And I get the blockchain and the technology, but if I don't deeply understand that, I kind of stay out of it. But I think a lot of that money flowed to Bitcoin that would have traditionally flowed into gold. I mean, I really think it's that simple. A lot of this younger generation kids, they see gold as kind of a stodgy old investment. You know, fair enough. I mean, I really think it's that simple. A lot of these younger generation kids, they see gold as kind of a stodgy old investment. You know, fair enough. I mean, you can't eat gold either.

Starting point is 00:39:28 I mean, it's really no different than when you think about it. You could technically use it for other means and jewelry and processing and equipment and stuff. I get that. But it's really, in a sense, no real different than paper. And a lot of these younger kids, they like the Bitcoin. I mean, Bitcoin's been through the roof. I mean, look at the prices there.

Starting point is 00:39:44 Insane. I'm not invested in one. That's very interesting. So the money, the trillion dollars, let's just say, can you type in Bitcoin, I don't know, not market cap, what is the total circulation? Type in what is the dollar amount of Bitcoin? Is it a trillion dollars? I think crypto is a trillion dollars, isn't it? Anyways, I'd be curious in what that number is. I do believe the crypto, you know currency side is around a trillion dollars So normally you're saying that would have gone to gold. Oh, yeah And by the way, I want a lot of gold and I have Bitcoin as well

Starting point is 00:40:17 I have crypto as well. There you go a trillion dollar market cap I mean, what was the stodgy hedge against inflation when you and I were growing up real estate and gold? Yeah, and then this third mega option emerged which a lot of us older folks didn't really get but the kids did and I remember A guy telling me I don't know 15 years ago and Bitcoin came out this guy's a geez friend of mine He's like man. You got to buy this big Bitcoin was like 500 bucks or something. I was like, I don't really get I mean What that now would be like the greatest investment ever but they get that's where the money money's got to go somewhere yeah you know and the other thing I would say is well when these real estate guys says you guys are delusional you know 40% of

Starting point is 00:40:55 money has been printed etc etc okay this is the question I asked them I say okay so that 40% was entered into the economy. Fine. What percentage of that 40% went to the top 1%, went to the top 10%, and went to the bottom 80%? Do you get what I'm saying? What percentage of that money, when it goes, hey, we're going to give all this money to you guys, you know, oh my God, look, they're doing COVID. Stimulus?

Starting point is 00:41:23 This, you know, what's his name? Anthony, what was the guy's name that ran who Andrew Yang was right. You know, it's a basic income. Give everybody $1,000. What a brilliant idea. Everybody's not paying off their debt because we got $2.1 trillion of cash in the economy that people have in their bank accounts. That 2.1 is at zero now.

Starting point is 00:41:42 It's gone. And so that money flowed to who? To the rich. So if you're saying 40% of the money is more in the marketplace, yeah, you're probably right. But what was Elon Musk's net worth in 2019, Rob? Can you type in Elon Musk's net worth in 2019? Or Jeff Bezos' net worth in 2019?

Starting point is 00:42:01 Does it tell you by year or no? It's probably 50 billion, I bet. Was it 50 billion? I guess. I'm gonna look up Jeff Bezos, you look up Elon Musk. Jeff Bezos net worth in 2019. So Elon Musk net worth in 2019. I mean I wish they would have showed it by year what their net worth is. It's not showing up. Anyways, the money flowed to the guys at the top. Tom, I'll give you the final thoughts It's not showing up. It's not showing up. It's not showing up. It's not showing up. It's not showing up. It's not showing up. It's not showing up.

Starting point is 00:42:27 It's not showing up. It's not showing up. It's not showing up. It's not showing up. It's not showing up. It's not showing up. It's not showing up. It's not showing up.

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Starting point is 00:42:43 It's not showing up. It's not showing up. It's not showing up. It's not showing up. It's not showing up. It's not showing up. up on the stock market with all of this economic. The consumer saved the economy's butt in 2023 by spending in second quarter, third quarter, fourth quarter like banshees and they ran through all their savings. It helped those economy, it helped the stock market. Trouble is you can't do that trick twice. Watch this, watch this real quick. He found it. So what was Elon's net worth in 2019, Rob? Can you just zoom in so the audience can see it? Net worth in 2019 Rob? Can you just zoom in so the audience can see it? Net worth in 2019 was $25 billion. You said $50 billion, right? So what is it right now? $175?

Starting point is 00:43:11 So the guy's... That's all Tesla stock right there. That's all Tesla stock. Yeah, so from $25 billion, his net worth 7x'd in a span of five years. That's crazy. That's what, so the money flowed up to the wealthy go ahead Tom exactly so the second point I'll make is To the to put a just a period at the end of this real estate thing is

Starting point is 00:43:32 Remember we're losing full-time jobs the jobs reports have been BS But you can read the footnotes in the job reports and see that that we're losing full-time jobs And most of the job reports are part-time jobs and by the way every time you hear a jobs report just print it put on your desk and wait two weeks for the revision that comes from the government where they sneak in at midnight slide it in on Friday night we're revising the jobs report from 335 down to 224 and we're like they do it right before the weekend right before the Super Bowl anything they can to hide it. But guess what? You can see it in the footnotes.

Starting point is 00:44:06 And it's also coming out in this little gem. National Association of Colleges and Employers said that the new hiring for the class of 2024, they will see 6% less full-time jobs available to them as they walk out as the class of 2023 did. So guess what? Why are we talking about jobs? You got to have a good full-time job for you to qualify for a mortgage. There it is. Hiring for freshly minted college grads is forecast to decline 6% from a

Starting point is 00:44:33 year according to a survey done by 200 employees from national social government. Wow. So guess what? Fewer full-time jobs out there means fewer people can qualify for the mortgages. So tell your mortgage broker, really? Tell me about all these wonderful jobs and wage increases these people have experienced. Be nice to him, Tom. He's a nice Christian man. No, I feel bad. I feel bad. He's a nice Christian man that hasn't done a refind in two years. He's pissed off. He's mad, Tom. Dan, I'm supposed to be nice. I'm not supposed

Starting point is 00:44:58 to use any profanity. I'm only supposed to say bad things. Tom curses a lot. You, Tom, are like a freaking curses like this. I can only say bastard. I curses a lot you Tom is like a freaking curses like I want I want to ask something from by the way I freaking love the fact that you can go layers deep with business It's awesome right because most people when you get political is just political you're multi-dimensional No wonder you're killing it and do what you're doing Rob. Can you do do me a favor, Rob? So May 31st, next week, Friday night, lights, Dave Smith against Chris Cuomo. Holy moly. This event will be from 6pm to 9pm.

Starting point is 00:45:35 The VIP sold out. I think we got a few the second tier. General, there's a couple left as well. If you're wanting to come, some interesting guests are coming out because they want to see this live period. This is going to be, there's going to be some fireworks, but at the same time, the fact that they're talking, it's going to be exciting. I think even Dave yesterday with Rogan, they were talking about this thing coming up on

Starting point is 00:45:54 a recent podcast Dave did with Chris. And Chris recently interviewed, who is it, the CDC, Vinny, who's the person that Chris had on that we played the clip. So even Chris is going deeper into it to expose some of the challenges from the COVID community and that's gone viral. So I'm excited to see what's going to happen there. For some of you guys that haven't yet, Rob, if you can go back to the QR code for people that want to get registered.

Starting point is 00:46:17 Go to the QR code to get your tickets. Next Friday night, all of us are going to be there, May 31st, and at the same time, you can go to 5990live.com for the people that are listening on Spotify and Apple, 5990live.com. Get your ticket. We'll see you there next Friday, May 31st, 6 a.m. Okay. Dan, question for you in regards to, I like your analysis, question for you in regards

Starting point is 00:46:40 to the media landscape. When we were having a conversation and we had Jesse Waters here a couple months ago, actually loved having him on. Seemed like a really nice guy. I really enjoyed it. Yeah, character funny, like you know, the stuff he used to do with Bill O'Reilly back in the days and you learn more about his story, how loyal he's been to the organization. He's earned this job for a long time to have the job that he has today, right? But before they were announcing I didn't know who they would go through, you know, it's like the who's gonna be the VP nominee I had you at the top like if Fox has got to go give that job to anybody I thought it was gonna be you may be getting that job

Starting point is 00:47:16 Maybe they were gonna knock on your door to say hey Tucker's no longer here with us You're one of the guys we like to have here. What are your thoughts with the media? Landscape that was one of the things we talked a lot about with Tucker the last couple days. With Fox, with what happened with Tucker Carlson Network, TCN, with Daily Wire, with what you and Chris are doing at Rumble. Most people think you're just a guy on Rumble. You're one of the biggest shareholders of Rumble. So media landscape, what do you see taking place in this community?

Starting point is 00:47:43 Man, that's my favorite question. So obviously the thing with Fox was, you know, of course it was reported wrong. I mean, the media, I'm always a straight shooter with my crew. No one was fired. There was no acrimony. I think because it happened around the Tucker time, people naturally kind of moved together

Starting point is 00:48:02 and said this must be related. That negotiation, I only had a two-year contract, right? That negotiation was ongoing. I'm gonna tell you it wasn't them. It was me I said it on my show if I said it was wrong, don't you think they would have put a statement out? I didn't want to work Saturday nights. I've got I had a book coming out. I'm an investor in rumble I'm on the phone all day with investments. My wife and I have tons of investments in different places I'm working my podcast. I'm doing three hours of radio. I'm doing pre-production meetings for pop for Fox every day I didn't want to work Saturday night and the problem was we would tape some of the shows on Friday, but wind up happening

Starting point is 00:48:39 News would break on Saturday the member to balloon with China. Yeah, I had my freaking arm operate I still got the scar. I did that show live after I'd already taped the show on Friday, I'm like bleeding through my jacket end. And their defense, they didn't want me to do it. They said, aren't you like still on anesthesia? I'm like, I'm doing the show. You go back and watch that show,

Starting point is 00:48:58 I'm sitting there like this, my jacket's all, because I had a cast on my arm and I couldn't fit the jacket in. And eventually at the end, I just said to them, arm and I couldn't fit the jacket in and eventually at the end I just said to him listen I don't think I've said this before but I said I got to move to a weekday thing and the lime's right There's just no real estate. There was so I said well part ways. It was not acrimonious at all But on the bigger media landscape question

Starting point is 00:49:20 Listen cable news is dying I mean, it's a simple matter of spreadsheet numbers and here's what's gonna be kind of the sort of Damocles just gonna drop right? This generation of younger folks right now doesn't have what we have We have the two button problem you and I grew up with one button you can pick up a remote you hit power Fox news On ESPN, you don't have to do anything one button real simple. We're not techie All right, we're just not these younger kids who grew up like that, they know everything about the phone, give the kid the phone, oh mom, put this in the settings.

Starting point is 00:49:49 They don't give a damn. They'll hit 20 buttons and get somewhere. Once this generation takes over, the cord cutting's gonna be complete, they don't care. You're gonna see cable news stations worth billions of dollars. It's not just Fox, but these other ones as well. They're gonna be a finished product.

Starting point is 00:50:04 Everything is going to be a video on demand. soon because I think they have a decade isn't as fast as it seems like Well, because you gotta remember people haven't died yet. I mean it sounds horrible, but they haven't I'll give you a perfect example My dad my father's it's not a tech savvy guy great guy I love my father to death obviously the neighbor was like oh you got to get this like I love my father to death, obviously. The neighbor was like, oh, you gotta get this like YouTube TV. And my dad was like, well, my son's an investor in Rumble. I'm gonna show him how to use it. My dad's like, I don't wanna know.

Starting point is 00:50:30 I'm not gonna remember. The guy's like, no, no, do it. He's like, I'm not gonna do that. I don't wanna do it. I just wanna hit the one button. The kids don't care. I think as you start to see people chronologically dying off, these kids are not gonna go to, I mean,

Starting point is 00:50:43 I just bought a house, this property, right? I said to my wife, because I have to watch cable news, I gotta see what's going on. I go, did you get cables? Yeah, the cable guy came, but they're not even dropping off boxes anymore. She's like, everything's preloaded apps on TV. I'm like, what?

Starting point is 00:50:57 So this is when it's gonna happen. That's why early on, like I saw the writing on the wall. You know, Rumble came to me early and there was, I mean, the business, it was the greatest business deal I ever cut. It was like offer A or offer B. And offer B was, I bet on myself and I take equity. It was the greatest business. We won public at $3 billion. It was the greatest deal I ever made because I always had faith in myself.

Starting point is 00:51:19 So what's going to happen in the future? And this is why I come on your show. It's going to be you, Tucker, Megyn Kelly, Daily Wire. It's going to be folks at the Blaze, the Jason Whitlocks and people like that. These kids are just going to go. Everything's going to be a dumb box. Everything's a dumb box. They're going to hit, boom, Patrick, David. Nobody is going to be watching cable. I'd say 10 years, 20 years, it's going to be at Descent. That's why I think Fox is moving into Fox Nation to try to get to the SVOD, subscription video on demand.

Starting point is 00:51:48 But I'll say one other angle with the media landscape. I think the problem people are making is I think paywalls are not a good idea. I think they're a nice supplement, but I think paywalls are just a bad idea. I think ad support is the way, because a lot of these kids, everything's free now. Paywall is a bad idea? I think as a supplement the way because a lot of these kids everything's free now pay wall is a bad idea

Starting point is 00:52:05 I think as a supplement I think yes pay walls as as your only exclusive way to produce like the daily wires got it right Produce free content and then for your super fans That's a great idea because you have a stable base of income right and if you get like the lefty boy cop brigade You're always okay But I think some of these people that are all in on paywall only, like pay or you can't see my stuff. I think we saw with, you know, the Howard Stern Sirius XM era, like that was kind of like a real barrier for him in the beginning. I just don't think these young kids are going to pay for content.

Starting point is 00:52:38 They grew up in a different era, man. You can't teach someone to pay for something they're used to getting free. You can give for free what they paid for, but not the other way around. So I think this, this kind of stuff where you own your own stuff, your own studio, your RSS feed and your product, I have told a thousand creators for as much as I love my friends at Fox and everywhere else, and I do, I still have a lot of friends. I have no enemies over there at all. We still talk. I say to everyone, do not marry yourself to any corporate overlord

Starting point is 00:53:05 I'm a capitalist But if they control your content and you don't build an email list a rumble following a YouTube following a Spotify You were rocking on Spotify. I looked your show up the other day, dude You guys had like a top 10 episode if you're not building that you are owned by someone else and one day when they say You're done. You are gonna be starting from scratch No sponsors, no subs, no P1 listeners. You're not gonna have a damn thing You're gonna be going to rumble and whatever and being like hey man sign up It's gonna take you years to build that. So let me ask this question. Okay, so

Starting point is 00:53:37 I'm open-ended question. I want to know how you sell it a guy is in a marketplace. He's got a good amount of following He's looking at potentially doing following. He's looking at potentially doing it himself. He's looking at maybe he wants to sign with Daily Wire. Okay, I'm going to go to Daily Wire or the Blaze or Rumble. Why would someone come to Rumble? Because Rumble's free. You own your own content. You own your own content. You could go to Rumble just like everyone. I mean, we just signed that, was it? Sagar, the Breaking Points or whatever. That's a really popular pod, they think the Hill used to run.

Starting point is 00:54:06 Oh yeah, they do very good, yeah. Yeah, they do great, like they just came over because I think they realized, wow, this is a great- Crystal Bell, Crystal. Crystal Bell, yeah, and a great show, super popular. And the thing at Rumble we offer is, I think the ad split is like 100%, like all we do is say, hey, come in, just take your money.

Starting point is 00:54:21 There's no, you know, Porter's Five Forces, right, if you went to business school, like what's the barrier to entry? The answer is zero, just take your money. There's no, you know, Porter's Five Forces, right? If you went to business school, like what's the barrier to entry? The answer is zero, it's free money. You go and put the podcast on Rumble and you just cash your check. And the thing about Rumble is we saw the, after the parlor debacle,

Starting point is 00:54:36 when we saw what these people could do, which I warned again, they didn't live, but whatever, that's a whole nother story, right? But at Rumble, we own everything. We own the cloud. So does AWS can't come to Patrick Bate Dave and go, cut that show, we're cutting you off our cloud. Rumble just gives them the middle finger.

Starting point is 00:54:52 Like we own our own servers. We own everything. We own the payment systems. So your processor on your website, say it's like Stripe and they say we're gonna cancel you. No, no, we own that at Rumble too. And you're like, oh, well they'll cancel you on the ads. No, no, we own that at rumble too. And you're like, oh, well, they'll cancel you on the ads. No, no, we own the ads too.

Starting point is 00:55:07 We have the rack, the rumble ad center. So we own everything. So if one business, let's say like for us, like video falters, I don't know, say more people start watching YouTube or whatever. It doesn't matter. We've got the cloud and we've got the rack. We've got the ad center.

Starting point is 00:55:21 We built a really redundant business, but that's why we wanted to own everything and we learned a lot from parlor and you know We ran on a really simple premise. We're not you know, we're not these lefty outlets that are going to cancel you Just don't break the terms of service. Don't break the law Don't do kiddie porn and terrorist attacks on the thing and we're not going to bother you and we don't so with daily wire What what happened with candice owns from a distance, you're watching it. How are you processing it? What's going on there with that?

Starting point is 00:55:47 You think they'll recover from it on both sides, we'll move on and have a good career, or do you think that's a blow that's gonna stay and people are gonna be thinking about it when they think Daily Wire? You know, man, I saw that coming from a mile away. I just did. I mean, I've done, Ben's one of the few podcasts,

Starting point is 00:56:02 I've done like Megyn Kelly, Ben, and you, and I think that's it over the last few years. So I did Ben's show when I had a book coming out. And listen, Ben's really passionate about what's going on in the Middle East. I mean, obviously it's an issue that means a lot to him, and there are different opinions at the Daily Wire, but Candice felt strongly about it differently

Starting point is 00:56:20 about issues in the Middle East, and that's a whole, we could do a whole show on that. And listen, as a guy who's been over there a lot in my last line of work and sat through briefing on briefing, I got a different perspective on it. But that was one of those things, man. Eventually it was gonna break bad. Will they recover?

Starting point is 00:56:36 This is why the sub business, you start losing subs, it's a paywall thing. It's not bad as a supplement, but you can get hurt bad. I mean, it's why the New York Times went crazy people Why is the New York Times are crazy under Trump because there's money in it Like why did Willie Horton rob banks because that's where the money is that if you started saying pro Trump stuff subscribers discontinued So the daily wire is gonna have to figure out that kind of delicate balance, you know, like Do we open it up to the content where people are gonna disagree with some of the main hosts or do we not? And I don't know, man. Like I said, I don't, I

Starting point is 00:57:09 would never, I did their show and I like those guys a lot. They've always been friendly to me. I mean, Matt Walsh show is just great. Um, I did Ben show and he's listen, you knock Ben all you want. Dude's been number one to conservative space for 10 years. He's clearly doing something right. They know what they're doing. I just personally don't work for anyone else. I own everything. Bongino Inc. is literally my company. I own everything. Even my radio show, like that that may be radio content from Westwood One, but they're basically just a sales agent for my show. Like that's it. I own everything and that's

Starting point is 00:57:40 why I'm you know it's easy to not get canceled when you want everything too. Got it. It's interesting concept with subscription. We're gonna see what's gonna happen with them I think they just launched something. I just you know The market is gonna be very very honest the next 12 24 36 months the market never lies, right? You can sit there and compete and the great thing about free market last night we're having a conversation one of my guys and Island I pick up I'm talking to these guys, they're in Hawaii representing us for one of the events that we're at.

Starting point is 00:58:10 And I said, the reason why I love capitalism is because capitalism will force you to make the right decisions. Because if you make the wrong decisions, it's going to hurt you. So it almost forces you to be a man of character because if you're not, the market has zero sympathy for you. It'll tell you, you made that decision, no problem, 22% cut. What? Well listen, we're going to do better.

Starting point is 00:58:34 What are you really trying to do? You're trying to make a better decision because you took it from a decision that you made, right? Free market capitalism never lies. And we all look back five, ten years from now saying, shit, those are two big mistakes we made, those guys made a massive mistake, wow, those guys made a massive mistake but they recovered, good for them, what did they, but everyone's gonna learn ten years from now who's right and who's wrong, that's the beauty part about capitalism, but that was great commentary and analysis.

Starting point is 00:58:58 Can I add one more thing though? Yeah, for sure. Because you and I, we do the same thing. One thing I will say, if you're looking to get in this business, if you want to be a content creator and especially when it involves politics and economics thing one thing I will say if you're looking to get in this business if you want to be a content creator and especially when involves politics and economics One thing you can never do is you absolutely cannot toe the line You just can't you were gonna say stuff that is going to piss people off when October 7th happened I had strong opinions. I had a good chunk of my audience, you know, they felt differently about the response

Starting point is 00:59:22 They were like I think this is genocide and you know, they felt differently about the response. They were like, I think this is genocide. And you know what? I heard everyone out. I leave my Facebook and rumble open. I read comments. I read them on the air. You talk about anything about economics. You're going to get 20 different opinions on five different issues. But I find some hosts the reason they fail is they try to be everything to everyone. And your P1 listeners, your rock solids, they're gonna tolerate the fact that 20% of the time you're gonna disagree. But if you try to be a hundred percenter, people sense you're full of shit immediately. They are so out. We don't even do marketing. We're like a number two, number three show on any

Starting point is 00:59:56 given day. We do almost no marketing at all. Our show has been totally organic word of mouth from the start. Yeah. By the way, what great counsel though. What great counsel, right? Your ride or dies are going to be with you and they're going to tolerate the 20% that you're going to have deferring opinions that they're going to disagree with you, but they're going to look at you as somebody that's going to be reasonable, but you're going to have people that are going to come in, they leave six months and they come back in. But then new people replace them.

Starting point is 01:00:21 That's right. But your 80% and what you wanna do is build your 80%. 80% of a thousand is obviously bigger than 80% of a hundred. And that's how you build an audience. Great, great commentary there. Let's go to the next topic. Rob, can you pull up this Chiefs football player who gives this message,

Starting point is 01:00:39 I have not reacted to it yet at all, Rob, and I wouldn't mind with us showing that and people losing their absolute mind over this. And then at the same time, Andy Reid, I think his name is Harrison Butker, go ahead and play this clip, Rob. Go for it. For the ladies present today, congratulations on an amazing accomplishment.

Starting point is 01:00:59 You should be proud of all that you have achieved to this point in your young lives. I want to speak directly to you briefly because I think it is you, the women, who have had the most diabolical lives told to you. How many of you are sitting here now about to cross this stage and are thinking about all the promotions and titles you are going to get in your career? Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world, but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world. I can tell you that my beautiful wife, Isabel, would be the first to say that her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.

Starting point is 01:01:37 I am on this stage today and able to be the man I am because I have a wife who leans into her vocation. I am beyond blessed with the many talents God has given me, but it cannot be overstated that all of my success is made possible because a girl I met in band class back in middle school would convert to the faith, become my wife, and embrace one of the most important titles of all, hole maker. What a speech man. And this is controversial, friend. Yeah. He's evil.

Starting point is 01:02:21 He's evil. She's a primary educator to our children. She's the one who ensures I never let football or my business become a distraction from that of a husband and father. She's the person that knows me best at my core, and it is through our marriage that, Lord willing, we will both attain salvation. I say all of this to you because I have seen it firsthand how much happier someone can

Starting point is 01:02:49 be when they disregard the outside noise and move closer and closer to God's will in their life. Isabel's dream of having a career might not have come true, but if you asked her today if she has any regrets on her decision, she would laugh out loud without hesitation and say heck no. Okay so you listen to this people go absolutely bonkers over this Rob. Rob can you just pull up what Michelle Beatle former ESPN host says reacting to this speech go for it. As a woman, I think everything he said was garbage. I think when you hide hateful thoughts and feelings and bigotry behind the quote-unquote cloak of religion, I tend to roll my eyes and stop listening.

Starting point is 01:03:35 But I think the fact that there were women in that audience that were not okay, I mean granted there were some that clearly were, but there were also some that weren't who have come out since and been like, what the hell, dude, we just worked our asses off for years. And you're gonna come in here and tell us that's all cute and stuff, but what you're really gonna wanna do is get married and have babies.

Starting point is 01:03:54 Then you'll feel important. Like, go fuck yourself. And who, and I can't believe people thought we would get political on this one. And by the way, it's also my freedom of speech to say go Fuck yourself Harrison, but that's my freedom. I can do that I'm gonna lose my job and he should also have the right no for good That's called freedom of speech and we have no problem with that. She's single. She's single

Starting point is 01:04:17 But that's the type of girl that I want I I'm looking at can you see how many kids does Michelle Beetle have? She is 48 years old, born on October 23rd, same year, she is five days younger, 1975, I'm 78. How many kids does Michelle Beetle have? Can you check? How many kids does Michelle Beetle have? I'm curious. If you go to her Instagram account, do you see any pictures of kids?

Starting point is 01:04:45 No pictures of kids. Okay. Is she married? Is Michelle Beetle married? If she is, I know exactly what he looks like. Michelle Beetle married. I know exactly what he would look like. But I'm actually really curious because Michelle Beetle is currently single.

Starting point is 01:05:02 No, she has. Has been single. She was in a relationship with a guy from 25 years old. So I'm just curious to know if she's married with kids, okay? Because there's a reason why you process it that way when you look out at 48 years old, you're like, the hell with this guy. I made a decision to marry my career. Now if she's got, you know, she's married and she's got kids, good for her, but that's

Starting point is 01:05:23 a different position she takes. Now Rob, can you do me a favor before we get into commentary here? Pull up what Patrick Mahomes said and what his coach Andy Reid said. Matter of fact, go to Andy Reid first. I don't know why I think he's more appropriate to go to first than Mahomes. Okay, go for it. Go ahead. I think I didn't talk to him about this.

Starting point is 01:05:39 I didn't think we needed to. We're a microcosm of life here, but it's from different areas, different religions, different races. And so we all get along, we all respect each other's opinions, and not necessarily do we go by those, but we respect everybody to have a voice. It's a great thing about America, man. And we're just, like I said said a microcosm of that and I wish you know my wish is that You know everybody could kind of follow that

Starting point is 01:06:15 With so many women just on staff here in the building if I mean his comments kind of touched on one of the workforce I mean, what do you tell them if they come to you with a concern about players speaking ill of women in general? Yeah, that hasn't happened. I don't think he was speaking ill to women, but he has opinions and we all respect that. I let you guys in this room and you have a lot of opinions that I don't like.

Starting point is 01:06:39 Hmm. So. What did my home say, by the way? I don't know what my home said. Did my home say anything? I'm Neil Harrison. I've known him for seven years. I judge him by the character that he shows every single day. That's a good person. That's someone who cares about the people around him, cares about his family, and wants to make a good impact in society. When you're in the locker room, there's a lot of people from a lot of different areas

Starting point is 01:07:05 of life and they have a lot of different views on everything. And we're not always going to agree. But there's certain things that he said that I don't necessarily agree with, but I understand the person that he is and he's trying to do whatever he can to lead people in the right direction and that might not be the same values as I have, but at the same time, I'm going to judge him by the character that he shows every single day. That's a great person and We'll continue to move along and try to help build each other up to make ourselves better every single day Dan thoughts on the story

Starting point is 01:07:36 so this story has been kind of At the forefront of my mind for if for at least a few days I've been thinking this through and it speaks to one specific thing about the modern left. Forget all this stuff. All that matters is the response is the why. Why did they respond the way they did? Because the left is very tactical. They don't just haphazardly find a reason to freak out.

Starting point is 01:07:56 They do it because they see a tactical end. Look at what happened with BLM and Antifa. Everything they do, they do for a reason. So why did this particular speech, a very benign speech about how there's a valuable role as being a mom, if you gave the same speech about fathers, I don't think anyone would say anything. There was nothing about the speech that was particularly even like aggressive. It was just a kind of a normal speech about parents in the home.

Starting point is 01:08:23 The first thing is the left hates because they're inherently collectivists and socialists, they hate any objective truth. Because the whole idea of the socialism they subscribe to is the idea of subjective truth, that the government should be able to treat people differently based on the government, you know, from each accord to their ability to each accord to their needs, okay? So anytime you see the left attacking something, an objective truth, men or men, women or women, or a competing source of values, family, church, do you notice these are things they all hate? There's no, why would the left hate the church? There's no good, like, what, it doesn't make any sense. Like it doesn't compete for them in

Starting point is 01:08:58 specific spaces. Some Catholic church leaders are all in on the environmental stuff and the immigration stuff. So why do they hate them? They hate them because it's a competing source of values. And the left can only have your values come from government. Once that's defeated, there is no path for socialism or collectivism. That's number one. That's why this bothered them. Anything with the family, the left will start peeing their diapers immediately. But the second part of this that irks him is the left's worldview in contrast to ours is so fragile. Aaron McIntyre made this brilliant point that it requires an extraordinary amount of energy

Starting point is 01:09:33 to people to believe the left's bullshit. Like 20 years ago, if you were to say in a Democrat debate, is a man a man or a woman? They would laugh at you. They'd be like, this is a Democrat debate. What kind of stupid question is that now this is considered like you're like insane if you bring up otherwise why it takes a lot of energy so what the left is worrying about is this one viral normal people ie not crazy leftist listen to that one yeah it makes sense man having a mom in the home it's

Starting point is 01:10:02 probably a pretty good idea dad too And they freaked out because they spent 10 years telling you, you don't need a mom, you don't need a dad. I went up to Capitol Hill once when the George Floyd thing happened. I was talking as a police officer in law enforcement. I'll never forget this. I brought up at one point, I'm like, folks, listen, man, all of this comes down to the home. You look at a strict correlation, dad in the home and crime Numbers are absolutely conclusive. Just put it on a damn spreadsheet a lefty guy on a panel You can probably see it on C-SPAN still this guy lost his mind He spent his whole three minutes attacking me

Starting point is 01:10:36 They spend an extraordinary amount of energy keeping their fragile worldview alive and this thing broke through and it ticked them off Let's say it's so predictable Tom I think there's I agree with what you just said and I'll add this to it when I saw people Rallying up here and I saw the voices that that that mainstream media was bringing forth like like her It said to me Wow This is a election year issue and they need to activate this voting group called Angry White Women in the Suburbs. So they cannot allow a simple truth, because I said to myself, this guy's just speaking

Starting point is 01:11:18 a simple truth, that you can have a lot of fulfillment about being a mom and about raising things. And by the way, that doesn't mean you're locked in your home. You're probably volunteering at school. You're probably helping other people with their kids. There's a tremendous amount of fulfillment if you choose that. So there's a simple truth in there that creates this dramatic contrast. They can't have that, to your exact point, because they need that block.

Starting point is 01:11:42 Without the angry white women in the suburbs right now, this election is over. I think it's over already. I think it's heading to over. I think it's going over the waterfall. We're seeing what's happening in all the electoral states. We've gone from seven battleground states to four battleground states. It's happening, and I think the left lost their mind because a simple truth sometimes shines brightest and becomes most compelling to people that think about it, and they can't have that for all the reasons you mentioned. And just think about the hypocrisy that here she is talking about, hey women you should be able to hell eff that guy. I mean be on your own you don't need them do your career and I guarantee you that same feminist attitude when it comes to grown men with testicles changing in locker rooms with girls and competing in women's sports, she's not a peep out of somebody like that.

Starting point is 01:12:27 It's hypocrisy at the highest point. And by the way, nobody would have seen that speech. Nobody in here, nobody at home would have even have known that speech existed. The left had to take it and go, hey guys, look, God and the nuclear family, we don't want nothing to do with that shit. Get rid of it. And that's exactly the point that you were making it's it's it's it's stupid is taking energy and it's just I'm happy that these horrible ideas are getting

Starting point is 01:12:50 exposed but I love it but by the way this this is the thing like the the reaction to Michelle Beatles reaction actually really liked I don't know what happened to her she she used to have something we're calling anyway she was actually good commentator to listen to but But okay, so she says, hey Harrison, go after yourself, whatever, fine, no problem. But there's a deeper issue here, guys. When you make a decision, a guy menecs me this morning on the way here, and his menec, I won't say his name, but I'll read it to you because it's so heartfelt and I'm reading it like truly heartfelt, right? He says I'm I'm a successful financial advisor. He moved to among won't give the details. I'll just get to where he's at now

Starting point is 01:13:35 I'm 40 years old making good headway making good money My wife and I have gone through three rounds of IVF and developments unsuccessful. I don't think we'll go down this path again. It's tough. I don't know what to do now. The drive and passion to be a successful person seems to have no meaning without children. If there is no one to pass knowledge, money, etc. onto, I could retire in a few years and sit on the beach, go work for someone or anyone else. I respect for free just to be part of something bigger than myself or do charity work.

Starting point is 01:14:04 I'm not sure that any of those solutions are right. That's gonna drive me. This is what do you think I should do, right? How many stories do we know of people that you know been together for 10 15 years? I can't have kids so many of them right you keep hearing these stories But there's there's something beautiful about making a decision to live for somebody else wife kids family I got four of them. There's nothing like it I saw the special you guys did three years ago with you and your wife sitting next to each other I don't know why I remember I don't know what Valentine's Day was a phenomenal special your interviewing It was she was so nervous about that too. It was and she like stole the show

Starting point is 01:14:38 Yeah It was actually great seeing what her position was right because the market knows you and they don't know a lot about her because she's Behind the scenes. Yeah yeah but when you see something like this and and other people's reaction 48 years old apparently not married never been married no kids she has to defend that position because that could not maybe we don't have the whole story just like we didn't know the story for that girl that was going back and forth with Adam what was her name the actress they're not actress the comedian Chelsea

Starting point is 01:15:07 Chelsea Handler and then later on you realize when she was a kid her best friend who was her older brother Left falls dies changes her family loses everything like they can't even handle themselves for the rest of her life She's afraid of losing somebody now. There may be a story behind this year, but man I think you hit it though hard there you hit it it in the beginning when you pointed about the anger. Like why are you so angry? I'm not mad at you. Honest to God, like you're a single 40-year-old woman who's successful. Like respect. I'm dead serious. I don't virtue signal for shit. I'm like great, you made decisions. I made different ones. I am not, I'm happy for you. Maybe that worked out great. But I'm going to take the woman out of it for a minute because it left these always like, you know, they want to paint

Starting point is 01:15:51 every Republicans massages. I got a friend, same thing, secret service agent, obviously shall remain nameless, but this guy was like great guy. We were good friends. I got mega player like just good looking guy, tall guy, basketball player, super smart, lived in all like the hot areas. And you know, when you're a Secret Service agent, the joke is like, it's like, it's a closest thing to be out being famous without anyone knowing who you are because you're hanging with all these rich people and stuff. And you make a lot of contacts.

Starting point is 01:16:16 You know, he had this medical incident not that long ago. And he told me this story. And I don't know how old he is now, 45 or whatever. He's a little younger than me. And no kids, again, never married. And he's like, you know what? No one came to see me in the hospital. And he's like, I started to realize, now he's getting married.

Starting point is 01:16:33 And he's like, it's time for me to change. And I'll tell you, man, I know you just said it about kids, but my daughter came home from college and I'm going to get goosebumps talking about it now. And my wife and I, I date my wife, like my wife's not my wife, she's my girlfriend. And my wife and I, you know, I date my wife. Like my wife's not my wife, she's my girlfriend. And people say, oh, you get all offended. I don't really care, I'm not really interested. My wife's my girl, so am my wife.

Starting point is 01:16:52 Like I, I'm married, but I never looked at her that way because it's got such a, like a, people have this connotation, like, oh, you're gonna be sitting there in a moo moo and the husband's gonna be, we like, we still date. We date like we first met. Me and my wife were in the hard rock last week, partying like 2.20.

Starting point is 01:17:06 Yeah, man, I woke up the next day, I think I need an IV. Like, I tell my audience, like, don't look to me for no morals, man, cause I ain't your dude. Like, I'm like a party guy. I go crazy with my wife. Like, we have a good time.

Starting point is 01:17:17 But Friday night, my wife and I had a couple drinks. It was no big deal. She was drinking some wine. I'd just drink it some, Costa Dragones or something. And we love Morgan Wallen. So we put it on and my kids come out. And my two kids are sitting there, man.

Starting point is 01:17:31 And we're just singing with my kids. Like, I can't sing for nothing. My wife can't either. But my daughter's looking at the words on the Spotify thing because we're taking her to a concert. And was it anything special? Was there a celebrity there? No, it was my living room. I'm going to tell you something, man. I woke up the next day. I said to my wife, I'm like was it anything special? Was there a celebrity there with a big no, it was my living room.

Starting point is 01:17:45 I'm going to tell you something, man. I woke up the next day, I said to my wife, I'm like, we are like the luckiest people on earth. I said that if there's a God, which I believe there is, I said that feeling, that's not a simulation. Like whatever's in my head. Rabbits don't feel that dogs don't. That was just, I woke up the next day. Like that was just special.

Starting point is 01:18:04 My youngest daughter, my oldest, were just sitting there like dancing. I can't dance, I'm a white guy. I got hips like a fire hydrant, they don't move. But we're all like laughing. That's the kind of stuff, brother. There's no amount of money in the world you can pay to make that up if you're 80

Starting point is 01:18:21 and you've never experienced that. You know what's crazy? Like when I'm with Bill Maher and we had the exchange and I said, so why do you have kids? And I said, what's the point of life? I said, oh give me a break with this point of life shit, right? And you see this, now I'm telling you, some people like this guy, they can't, they wish they could, it's not intentional, it's what happened but some people fully married

Starting point is 01:18:46 their career and now they're realizing you can't lay in bed with your career at 60 years old saying honey tell me about your day your career is not gonna say I watched that interview yeah I tell you the fact that you're that is it that's a real question you ever see children of men with Clive Owen nobody can have kids anymore. It's basically a dystopian movie where no one can have kids anymore. And you watch the movie, if you don't wanna,

Starting point is 01:19:12 I encourage you to watch that, because you realize if there really is no point and no one can procreate, why would anyone do anything? But they're all at the end of their lives and no one can have kids. They find this one woman who can have a baby and she changes everything. Because everybody's like,

Starting point is 01:19:29 wait, why are we building a new factory? So that's a real question. Like the fact that a guy is smart as Bill Maher. Have you seen that, people? No, I've never seen this. Oh my God. And there's gonna be no customers. So why are we doing this?

Starting point is 01:19:40 It's funny, I said dystopia. They use the exact same word. And by the way, I love it because what a fantastic recommendation because we always do this. Just the beginning one, two minutes of the movie. I don't want to give it away. You're going to be sucked in in two seconds, bro. It's a sick movie. Okay, guys. If you don't want to have kids, anyone, watch that movie. Listen, I'm a sucker for great movies. We're watching this movie. No problem.

Starting point is 01:20:00 Clive Owen's amazing. So Harrison, wherever you are, you're an absolute stud of a guy man good for you for giving a speech like that So many people are grateful for a man to give that speech Respect you and respect to the Kansas City Chiefs organization for whether you agree with him or not you back him up He doesn't get fired. Nothing happens to his career Good for you guys for the decision you guys made as an organization. All the pressures didn't do nothing for you. Still hasn't done. Maybe if you guys decide tomorrow, you will get criticism, but as of right now, good for you guys for not making any major decisions with this guy here.

Starting point is 01:20:34 Now let's transition into a couple other stories. Rob, Bill Maher's on the view, right? There's a couple clips that we have. I want to first play this one. The one that you, which one do you have? Do you have only one of them or do you have a couple of them? I only have the one. This is where they debate the term woke. Is this where he goes off? How long is this one here, Ron? It's five minutes but we can stop it. They get right into it right off the bat. Okay, go for it. Play the clip. Well, I had a different question but it struck me that in the first segment you used the term woke and you said That woke is what was sort of ruining everything and I know that you're I didn't say ruining everything I said, that's why Trump could get reelected. That's what Trump could get reelected

Starting point is 01:21:15 so I just the term woke has been in my view co-opted by the right and weaponized and bastardized and so I was surprised to hear you use the term because historically, as you know, because I think you're quite brilliant, that woke is a word used by the black community to note that we must be aware of social injustices. And so why is that a bad thing? It's not a bad thing, and originally,

Starting point is 01:21:40 that was absolutely a great thing. Alert to injustice, who's not for that. But words do migrate. Now, I'll use any term you want because maybe that is a word that's triggering and so let's not use that word. I don't wanna call it the super far left, but don't tell me the left has.

Starting point is 01:21:57 Or maybe the super far right. We just talked about the left. Well, then I'm joking. Okay, but we talked about that. I mean, I think we agree about the danger of the super far right and I can you know, I can't say it enough I think they're the bigger threat But don't tell me that the left hasn't changed

Starting point is 01:22:13 I mean, I'm old enough to remember when it was the conservatives who hated the Jews. Yeah Okay Silence because I'm not sure Well, maybe it is but it's but it's true I mean, you know if I had any doubt that I was right about the change that happened in the left Watching people protest for a terrorist organization like Hamas That straightened me up pretty quick. Yeah, I wanted to ask you about that because I I think you're almost a free-speech absolutist You believe totally the right to say what you believe I wanted to ask you about that because I think you're almost a free speech absolutist. You believe totally in the right to say what you believe.

Starting point is 01:22:47 I think a lot of us were disturbed to see terrorist flags being waved on American college campuses and seeing this generation that may, some I think genuinely care about the play of the Palestinians, I think most Americans do, but some who seem to be embracing a terrorist organization over the nation of Israel. What do you make of this moment? What do you think it's a result of how do we fix it? Well, I mean, it's just Astounding to me that they can't tell the good guys from the bad guys. I mean just Morally, I mean

Starting point is 01:23:17 Let me tell you if you're for Hamas just live in Gaza for a day And I'm not talking about while the war is on I mean before the war Trust me, you would go running and screaming and begging to live in Gaza for a day. And I'm not talking about while the war is on. I mean before the war. Trust me, you would go running and screaming and begging to live in Tel Aviv. A place that has your values. I mean, women have no, I mean, this is a show watched by a lot of women. Women have no rights in this place.

Starting point is 01:23:40 And a lot of majority Muslim countries around the world. I mean, there is no equal rights as far as speech, dress, opportunities for education, reproductive rights, freedom from sexual violence, freedom from sexual harassment. The LGBTQ community as well. That too. But you throw around the term apartheid. There is a gender apartheid in a lot of the world

Starting point is 01:24:05 where women are second class citizens at best. Are you at all concerned about the innocent? You can pause that, Ron. Reaction. Dan, what are you thinking? Well, first, everybody gets trapped into this woke trap. I see it now on the left. The left is always like, well, define what woke is, and they try to put these folks in

Starting point is 01:24:23 the right in a box. And I say pretty simply, it's basically the idea that this white male patriarchy is the source of all power. And the knowledge is therefore seeded from that. So you should question everything. But it goes back to what you and I discussed before. There's a reason they do that. And the left needs a reason to challenge anything objective that challenges their worldview.

Starting point is 01:24:44 You will get all of your values from the government. So anything you know to be true, if you're a man of faith that there's a God, that a man's a man's a woman a woman, that there should be a father and mother at home, things you know by nature to be true, the left challenges it. So they make up this lie that there's this white male patriarchy, which is this kind of amorphous blob. And this patriarchy is the source of power, and knowledge is a construct of that. So any knowledge you have, like two plus two equals four, is to be challenged because it came from this patriarchy. And that's why you get things like

Starting point is 01:25:18 the war on math. Again, none of this stuff is accidental. So when he's talking about woke and the evolution of woke, he's not kidding because the liberals have this problem now that liberals never get you to vote for them. Okay. They don't just look at their kids. Nobody runs on liberal. No one. I mean, on hardcore liberals, I'm talking about democratic stuff.

Starting point is 01:25:39 Nobody runs on like, hey, man, cops are really terrible. They don't put that on the campaign side. They believe it. the far left. Nobody runs on like a government bureaucrat should tell you when to get your heart cracked open and nobody runs on, I want 90% tax rates. They don't. Matter of fact, when Bernie Sanders tried to run on it, that's how we got Joe Biden because they wanted to get rid of him.

Starting point is 01:25:59 So what do they do? The left doesn't get you to vote for them. They get you to vote against the other guy. So that's why the racist cudgel has been so valuable to vote for them. They get you to vote against the other guy. So that's why the racist cudgel has been so valuable to them for so long. Don't vote for Dan Bongino, Vincent or Tom or anyone else. You guys are all racist and it worked. The problem now is that democratization of media, people see through the bullshit. They can just go to Twitter or truth or anywhere else and see videos of us talking. Like that guy don't sound racist to me matter of fact he's talking about courting the black vote so what

Starting point is 01:26:28 is what Bill Maher is getting that to sum this thing up is he's like woke has evolved because liberals had to create new victims that aren't there if you're a young black man in America today could you encounter racism of course is the likelihood of it compared to say the 50s. It's Geometrically lower. I mean, it's not even close. So what do they do? They got to keep telling you know No, everybody hates you especially those conservatives. Okay, and that's what he's talking. That's why the woke left has gone crazy He's he's not wrong. Oh, and by the one one of hands down and I'm being dead serious one of the worst Shows ever in the history that it's even running this long is the view. Even Sonny Hostin, you know the girl that's sitting on the right?

Starting point is 01:27:07 She was on a show recently, it was on PBS. Have you seen the show, Dan? It's called Finding Your Roots. And this girl is all for reparations. Just like you said, Dan, everybody's freaking racist. Turns out they found out, she found out from the show that her family owned slaves. And she's an advocate of the reparations, stuff like that. So I think she should practice what she preaches. She should give reparations as well.

Starting point is 01:27:27 You have the video. Rob, I sent you that video on... And while he's looking for that one, and Dan, you'll get a kick out of this one. Is this it? No, this is Angela Davis. I'll let him play the... I'll tell you what. This is Angela Davis, civil rights activist, former Black Panther. She discovers on this show that her ancestors were white colonists who arrived in America on the Mayflower and guess what? They owned slaves. Play this please. Any idea what you're looking at? That is a list of the

Starting point is 01:27:55 passengers on the Mayflower. No, I can't believe this. My ancestors did not come here on the Mayflower. Your ancestors came on the Mayflower. No, no, no, no. You are descended from one of the 101 people who sailed on the Mayflower. Oof. Yeah, that hurts, huh? That's a little bit too much to deal with right now. Did you ever in your wildest dreams

Starting point is 01:28:24 think that you may have descended from people who laid the foundation for this country? Never. Never. Never. Never. Never. So that means reparations will never go through her? Well that's because somebody on Twitter said she's an openly Marxist professor at the University of California. She found out you know that they're white racist colonizers. She's been teaching against them her entire life. Not that like she's a descendant of a slave owner. So she should owe reparations to. Do you have the video of Sonny Huston? I'm looking for right now. I just send it to you on a slide. I knew Sonny, man, at CNN. Like we spent time in green rooms. She wasn't like always this crazy. But I think the thing about the view where you're right, what bothers

Starting point is 01:29:02 me about the view is not that they're left. Like Bill Maher's left. He's got a successful show. Sometimes he says crazy shit. Sometimes he doesn't. The thing that irks me about the view, I think it away from the reparations thing, but what irks me about the view and say is they're just dumb. Like they say dumb things. I'm saying Joy Behar is really like a clinical moron. You know, Alyssa Farah is like a fake conservative. She just, she's just looking at like, she's just looking for clout or whatever. They need that position.

Starting point is 01:29:29 They have to have somebody. You got Sonny, who's supposed to be a lawyer, who makes so many ver- I've been on the air 10 years. I've had to make like two corrections on minor stuff. And one was a chart. I didn't even know it was on the screen on my damn show. Someone threw it in after in production.

Starting point is 01:29:43 Sonny says he has to come out and correct stuff all the time, these people are idiots. And just on that reparations clip though, what Angela Davis, think about it. This is what happens when you compartmentalize people into boxes that don't exist. I love it. Race is a marginal thing.

Starting point is 01:29:58 Who's black, there's no black gene, there's no white gene, it's a marginal thing. And when you treat people like, oh, black, white, white guy bad. And then you find out like, oh man, the white guy. Listen, I took a 23 and me. I was kind of surprised. You know, I really, you don't. This is insane. Good, bad. I thought, you know, I thought the whole idea was supposed to be this melting pot. Like we're human beings and they just, this is what happens. Oh, look, you're on the Mayf just this is what happens. Oh look you're on the mayfa what yeah What am I gonna do pay myself reparations?

Starting point is 01:30:32 Back we see this one. This is a very very short word. This is a sunny Haas and finding out her family owned slaves Wow I'm I'm in a little bit in shock. I just always thought of myself as Puerto Rican. You know, half Puerto Rican. I didn't think I was... My family was originally from Spain and slaveholders. Yeah. No. Brother, I never saw that. The Davis thing, I never saw that before with Sonny.

Starting point is 01:30:59 And I'm so happy that you said that. Everybody talks this, all the divisiveness. Nobody checks the stats. Really, really like step back, because they're out there and they're being the forefront of all this pushing this hate and divisive attitude. Come to find out, your ancestors own slaves. So I think all these people, that's all they're doing then, is just keeping us apart, keeping us apart. Love always wins, but these people, they don't make money. They can't, that show doesn't exist if they're not anti us and anti everything, and Trump is Hitler. That's their whole freaking job.

Starting point is 01:31:27 It's boiled down for me over the years so simply. I read an old, old, old article that was written by Ann Coulter and it was on her website and it wasn't like a bombastic argument where Ann would go on some show and have some argument. She pointed out, she says, look, from a typically conservative point of view, you're going to come with logics and facts and you respectfully think the other side is wrong. But when you're faced with emotions and factless, then they inherently feel that you're evil. You're not wrong, you're evil.

Starting point is 01:32:01 And you're bad is to categorize it. And when people's worldview, these are people that think I'm good, you're bad, and then when given a fact that's incontrovertible like a 23andMe, man, you just look how it messes with their head. Whereas a conservative person is going to say, wait, let me see that again. Because you inherently accept facts that change, you know, not just narratives, but your point of view on something. You say, oh, you're defending an athlete for something. Then you see the video. You say, you know what?

Starting point is 01:32:35 That's indefensible. He was hitting his wife. I can't defend that. And they step off it. And it's just amazing to me. The view is this cesspool of factless Emotional you are bad. This is evil and you see when a conservative remember and Bill Riley was on there like Oh my god ago. Oh my gosh, and he was trying to go back to fact and they wouldn't let him

Starting point is 01:32:59 They would move off the fact to move over here move off the fact to move over here And I think that's what you're seeing. I think it's so interesting when confronted with facts that they just kind of. It's great, it's great to see. So I wanna go to the next story here one mile. Wait, can I bring up one last point? On what you just said, summed up this way beautifully, man. Conservatives think liberals are people with bad ideas.

Starting point is 01:33:18 Don't ever forget that. Liberals think conservatives are bad people with ideas. And that's why whatever you are for, they're against. They don't care about the idea, they care about what you just said. That you're a bad person and it doesn't matter. Exactly. Rob, if you can pull up the clip with Alejandro Mayorca, it's the fact that we have a, you know, Dan who was former Secret Service. I really want to see how he reacts to this.

Starting point is 01:33:39 Go for it and play this clip. No disrespect, Secretary. Chad Wolf, your predecessor, was among those saying, we're almost three and a half years into a crisis, and only now are they starting to take these executive actions. These are actions that we have been pleading with the administration to take for two and a half to three years. What do you say to that? That's not accurate. That's what I say.

Starting point is 01:34:04 We implemented the asylum officer rule through regulation. We implemented the circumvention of lawful pathways rule through regulation. We have built additional facilities, deployed enforcement and removal Operations officers. This year we have removed or returned more than 720,000 people who do not qualify for relief under the law more than any full fiscal year since 2011. We've been enforcing the law from day one despite the political rhetoric. How do you react to that, Dan? Forcing the law from day one despite the political rhetoric How do you how do you react to that then I

Starting point is 01:34:55 Mean this guy's so full of shit. It's like I mean, I know Pinocchio was like fairy tale Yeah, you're wondering why he knows you're like, oh my god again This is you know gaslighting right lie lie often lie confidently and isolate people from the truth The reason this would have worked with Cronkite 30, 40 years ago is no one had video cameras at the border and people were, oh no, no, the border, if you didn't live in a border community, you wouldn't know, right? Again, information's democratized.

Starting point is 01:35:17 Bro, I can just go to X and put border and watch for the Fox drone live. So he's so full of shit. But the thing about it that's so disingenuous is everything he says has some nugget of truth, but he's giving you the opposite end of it. We built facilities. With the Kuvudovshchestan, for what?

Starting point is 01:35:38 Oh, to process people to bring into the country. So that's what the facility, they're not detention, they're processing facilities. And then when he says, we've that's what the facility, they're not detention, they're processing facilities. And then when he says, we've deployed people to the border, yes, to assist people in getting in, not to keep them out. What he does is he's a clever liar.

Starting point is 01:35:54 And I hate clever liars because they're disingenuous little shits. He's a clever liar. He says something with a nugget of truth and makes it appear like he's doing the opposite. And by the way, the 212F, the INA, Immigration and Nationality Act, the president right now, look it up, anyone look it up, 212F, please, if you think I'm making this up, the president has the authority right now to stop any class of immigrants for any reason coming into the

Starting point is 01:36:21 country for as long as he wants. There it is, thank you, 212F. It's right there, folks. You think I'm lying. So him telling you they need congressional authority to do these things, it's right there on the screen. It's on My Attorney USA. You think I made that up?

Starting point is 01:36:37 Let me just read it so the audience who's on Spotify can see it. So the first part of section 212F codifies the President of the United States broad authority to suspend the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens if the president determines that such Entry would be determined detrimental to the interests of the united states by presidential proclamation He doesn't have to do anything. He could just do it because he has the presidential I'm so glad you brought that up because it was like less than 45 days ago, Biden looked

Starting point is 01:37:08 into the cameras and said, they got to pass the law. If that law was, you know what I'm talking about? I know exactly what you're talking about. That's exactly it. And then you're bringing to it, this is where the president just lied to our faces as citizen. Hey, we need that law. That law was passed. I would do it right now.

Starting point is 01:37:22 Pass that law. He has the ability. He has the control. They just won't do it. And we're being duped and we're being used. So I got a question for you, Rob. Can you pull up the other number of the amount of illegal immigrants coming through, the data that you had? Okay, here we go.

Starting point is 01:37:35 2015, 16, 17, all the way down to now. So dark green encounters, apprehensions, orange expulsions, light orange returns, removals is yellowish, right? So you see 2015, say 600,000, then 2016, say 700,000, 2017, probably half a million, 2018, 700,000, 2019, say 1.1, 1.2 million, 2020 drops to around 650, then 2021 goes to 2 million, 2022 say 2.7 million, 2023 3.2 million. And counting, right? And counting. So all these numbers, these are, we had more in one year than the last previous potentially

Starting point is 01:38:21 six years, five years combined, right? Encounters and apprehension, what I'm specifically talking about. Okay, great. Trump gets elected. He hires, you know, Tom Homan. Okay, he comes in. And they want to clean it up. How are you going to get rid of 10 million illegal immigrants that came here? How do you do that? That's the problem. See, this was very tactical. You're right. For as much as I would love to look into the camera and your audience and say, Trump's going to fix, he can fix the border relatively

Starting point is 01:38:49 quickly, just 212-a and get the construction going. If we can get it passed through Congress, you need money. No one's going to build it for free. But the problem is, it's almost impossible. It's just a matter of simple logistics. I mean, you're talking about because they're here, once you're on US soil, the Constitution applies. It's sad that that the not said we have a constitution, but that they were allowed to get in. That's the portion of it that's troublesome. But the Democrats were very tactical folks. They're not stupid. They understand that it doesn't matter if these illegals vote or not. It does. I mean, it's terrible. Obviously, if they do, they

Starting point is 01:39:23 broke the law. All that matters is they're here because they're counted in the census. And the census apportions House of Representatives members, which doesn't only determine the breakdown of Congress, but also determines the presidency. How the hell's that? Because the electoral college is based on your number of House of Representatives members plus senators. So if you import 10 million people, which is the population significantly more than a number of US states, what the Democrats just effectively did is create probably two to three small size liberal states and gave them votes in the electoral college to get to 270.

Starting point is 01:39:58 It doesn't matter. Why do you think, go back and look at this, you think I'm messing with you, when Trump wanted the citizenship question, why do you think the left went nuclear meltdown DEF CON 42 million? Because they knew if the apportionment on the census didn't include their 10 million new citizens or whatever they want to call them in the euphemisms game, they knew they would never win a presidential election again. So that's why they went absolutely crazy. And John Roberts and his court, they screwed us over. That would have changed electoral dynamics in the United States forever.

Starting point is 01:40:32 And that's what Trump has to focus on right away, is the citizenship. And they were already upset because was it five or seven electoral votes moved north to south? Between Florida and Texas and California and New York losses, you're in the ballpark. Right. So basically... Would have been more if they wouldn't have screwed it up. So basically, you know, let's pick a blue state up north. Basically, a Vermont and a half went south in terms of the electoral college. And that's how they were flipping out. And so, you know, look, election manipulation

Starting point is 01:41:06 through redlining and everything for congressional districts is as old as the country itself. And these folks want to, why do you think they were being bused to certain areas? Why do you think they were flipping out when Texas was saying, you know what, tell you what, get on the bus, you're going to New York, because that's not where they wanted them.

Starting point is 01:41:23 And then Mayor Eric Adams gets religion and is like, I can't care for him and winter's going to come here and they're going to freeze to death. So now he's taking school gymnasiums and stuff and impacting it that way. But you're exactly right. This was a programmatic mathematical invasion designed to deploy and then later break after one census and reapportionment. I can actually prove to you what I'm telling you is true. This is why, by the way, I'm agreeing with you by the way. and then later break after one census and reapportionment. I can actually prove to you what I'm telling you is true.

Starting point is 01:41:47 This is why, by the way, they freak out. I'm agreeing with you, by the way. No, I know. Like, when you bring up, no, I totally get it, but when you bring up the idea of what the Democrats call replacement theory, right? If you bring this up, they freak out. And what I do on my show is I say, really?

Starting point is 01:42:02 Because I'm just gonna play a video cut of you talking about demographic destiny and Replacing what you Democrats is not me. It's you. There's an article in New York Times. Look it up Michelle Goldberg Look this up New York Times. It's called we can replace them Look it up right now. You think of it? Yeah, this is they're like erase it. Thank you I believe it. Yeah, they're like, erase it, thank you.

Starting point is 01:42:24 That's the freaking New York Times. Holy shit. Wait, I thought we were the, they talk about it all the time. They don't want you to notice. Why don't they want you to notice? Because they realize what Tom just said. The electoral math for them, with saying US,

Starting point is 01:42:40 they'll never win a national election again without illegal immigration. This is what I was making a point though. There was a senator, I may have been Ted Cruz, but I'm not sure but this is about ten years ago Maybe a little less he put a poison pill. It was genius in one of these bills It said and he did it to be tactical. I'm not sure if it's Cruz But they said okay, what we'll do is we'll do some kind of semi amnesty, but they can't vote the left one I thought this was about like taking care of people so you'll let him in but if they can't vote. The left one. I thought this was about

Starting point is 01:43:05 like taking care of people. So you'll let them in, but if they don't vote for you, kick them the hell out. It was, it was genius because all the Democrats said, no, all they care about is votes. They don't give a damn about these people. That article is legit. They'll tell you mentioned replacement theory. They'll call you a racist on Twitter and they go, I'm just reading a headline from the New York Times You know what states yeah, and by the way, they call it, you know the border I call it a turnstile because think about them. We've been saying this forever the left or just the regular voters They don't believe they're still like, you know, this is America. We have to let everybody in we know think about it

Starting point is 01:43:39 It's not only for votes. It's for women sex trafficking It's for all that all all the terrorists. If you think about it, Dan, that border situation, they're going to use this for whatever the hell they want. They're giving all these people cell phones and by the way, the whole lie of it's just Trump said the Mexicans, it's beyond Mexicans. They're my wife's immigrant, right, from Colombia. So I love when they come after me and go, man, you really hate immigrants. They go, that's crazy, I married one. How'd I get past that? Yeah My parents his my kids are Colombian. Yeah

Starting point is 01:44:09 We all come from that but it's like to not see what's happening And then now you must get a kick out of that when they tell you guys must hate immigrants you capitalist entrepreneur You're like, he is one. He's not from one of them too. Yeah. Yeah I wasn't right now. Yeah, so dumb. It is like, it's such a shallow, stupid argument. There's a really valuable component to value added immigration in any country. The Japanese are finding that out the hard way right now. But yeah, this is this racist nonsense. It's just them projecting onto you that they're using minority groups as election tools and they see them only as a power. So is it going to work then? Is this tactic for this election,

Starting point is 01:44:46 is that tactic going to work? The illegals with Electoral College with the people? Man, let me tell you something, this election scares me. That's why in the beginning where we talked about the red wave stuff, I said, you talk about that on my show, I like cancel you right away. Am I, I don't even want to hear it.

Starting point is 01:45:02 It could, man. And I do worry about the cheating. Cheating's real, you talk about it, it'll smack you on. I mean, you guys are economics guys, right? You can't prove it counterfactuals like the golden rule of economics, right? What would a tax cut done if you didn't? I don't know. It didn't happen. So what are we going to? I can't tell you. Exactly right. So you can't box me in on something that never happened. So when people say like, oh, voter fraud doesn't exist and it's not systemic and there's 10 million people here who could in theory If they were smart enough get a ballot you can't prove to me. It didn't happen if you didn't detect it

Starting point is 01:45:32 That's it's like a joke of an argument like voter fraud isn't systemic. How do you know because I know take my word for it Do you benefit from voter fraud? I do so you have a vested interest in saying what you just said with no evidence to back It up. I do so you're a moron? I should disregard. No, no, I'm a smart guy. You're an idiot. Will it work? It could. I'm optimistic about this election. I think the black vote and the minority vote are really gonna help us a lot. I think Trump's made some major headway and I think that's gonna be his lasting gift to the Republican Party, a demographic shift we've needed for years. But man, I'm still nervous. I mean, the Republican Party, a demographic shift we've needed for years.

Starting point is 01:46:05 But man, I'm still nervous. I mean, 10 million people, a lot of people. Did you see the CNN reporters that completely lost their mind when it was 6% minorities when it was that was this past week and then 22% right now? Nine to 22. Nine to 22. Nine percent previous. Now it was 22%.

Starting point is 01:46:21 And even more with the younger generation. We talked about the election. I got two minutes left and I want to go to one more thing Tom. I want to show it. How big of a role does this play with Nikki Haley? Okay, when Nikki Haley saying this, if we can play this clip. So just a couple months ago, she's trashing Trump, right? She's saying what she's saying about everybody. And she says this, go ahead, Rob. As a voter, I put my priorities on a president who's going to have the backs of our allies and hold our enemies to account.

Starting point is 01:46:53 Who would secure the border, no more excuses. A president who would support capitalism and freedom. A president who understands we need less debt, not more debt. Trump has not been perfect on these policies. I've made that clear many, many times. But Biden has been a catastrophe. So I will be voting for Trump. Having said that, I stand by what I said in my suspension speech. Trump would be smart to reach out to the millions of people who voted for me and continue to support me

Starting point is 01:47:39 and not assume that they're just going to be with him. And I genuinely hope he does that. What does that mean though? What does that mean though? What's she saying? She needs a job, doesn't she? Yeah, that's because that's how I think it is. What job, baby, is she interfering for? Reach out to my people, to my voters, millions who voted for me. So please reach out to me and offer me a job is what, how I interpret that. How do you interpret it? Man, that's so, you and's so you and I man are like mine they swear that's the first thing that came to my mind like it's incredible the country's in this perilous spot with the

Starting point is 01:48:10 oatmeal God in the White House and the speech is about him courting you as if you won yeah why that one they're not your supporters they're supporters of a specific bland brand of Republican politics this isn like, it's not a UFC fight. They go, I'm supporting Conor McGregor. This is about the country. I think she waited too long. I think this was terrible politics. I think the right thing to do was to come out right away

Starting point is 01:48:34 and said, I lost, he was obviously a better candidate. I think she's burned herself in Republican politics forever. I really do. I hope that's not the case. I like to see a big broad bench. It's good for us. There's no addition by subtraction in politics. I hope we get those votes and I hope he does talk to those voters. But dislike, I'm a

Starting point is 01:48:53 conduit to those people, come to me. It would be like me saying on my show, like, you know, hey listen, Trump, you need to get on my show so I can tell my, I should be telling my people to save the country. Vote for sure not come to me like you need to kiss my ass. I wasn't I wasn't digging that It's an establishment comment that comes from establishment politician that see voter blocks as owned Hundred percent they're like a commodity people trade like oh look my block here for your block there. No, no No, this should be about statesmen. I mean, I get that's all flowery and now everybody hates politics and politicians suck, but that's, I don't know, man, that's weak.

Starting point is 01:49:31 That whole thing is weak. We'll finish on that. Dan, great to have you on the podcast. I'm glad we finally made it work. Rob, can we put the link below to be able to directly go and subscribe and find him on Rumble podcast. We'll put it in the chat. We'll put in the chat, we'll put in the comment section as well for anybody to do it. Gang, we're going to do another

Starting point is 01:49:48 podcast again. Can you pull up stuff on my show next? Because I want to make sure you are very nice to me. I want to promote your podcast as well. For sure, we can do that. And then hopefully one of these days we'll head out to go to the city. Apparently, I don't know why I'm being told, we'll figure this thing out if it's true or not. Apparently, the best Burger King in America is being told, we'll figure this thing out if it's true or not, apparently the best Burger King in America is in Stewart, Florida. Really?

Starting point is 01:50:08 Seriously? Yeah, you'd never believe it. Because it's a real thing. It doesn't serve burgers anymore. What? Anyways, gang, take care, we'll see you again tomorrow. Bye bye, bye bye, bye bye. Take care, everybody.

PBD Podcast - Dan Bongino: Haley Endorses Trump, Butker's Speech & The Death of Cable News | PBD Podcast | Ep. 413

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