PBD Podcast - Debate Reaction, Trump Immunity, Pride Civil War & Jamie Foxx's Medical Mystery | PBD Podcast | Ep 432

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Starting point is 00:00:52 get a rain check. Discover more value than ever at Loblaws, in-store and online. Conditions apply. See in-store for details. Okay, episode 432, home team, a lot to cover, folks. And by the way, last week when the debate was going on with President Biden and Trump, we were missing a BizDoc. He is officially back. He's officially back.

Starting point is 00:01:42 He's here with us. We can now say where he was. He was at the Austria Formula One fight. We got a lot of stories to cover. I don't know if you guys saw a video of Jamie Foxx, a little interesting video of Jamie Foxx. Obviously the Supreme Court rule, Trump has significant immunity from prosecution, Joey Reid is not too happy about some of the stuff that's taking place.

Starting point is 00:02:04 Biden's camp is being asked to leave. Some are saying it's all on Jill Biden, why he's still in it. Gavin Newsom joins panel to discuss presidential debate until Adam Carolla catches him off guard with a COVID question. Out of all the questions and for whatever reason, those guys have a history together, but he keeps going back. I mean, if he keeps going back, maybe there's a reason for why he keeps going back to being there.

Starting point is 00:02:29 A new poll shows Biden narrowly trailing Trump in New Hampshire. Tom said earlier, the last time a Republican won in New Hampshire was Jesus, which means no one's ever done this before. That was a timeline. You have to hear it when he said this to us, but we're going to talk about New Hampshire, why that's important. Trump predicts Biden won't drop out and says Biden's problem is not his age. In his post-debate speech, Nikki Haley warns GOP to get ready for a younger, more vibrant

Starting point is 00:02:59 replacement for Biden. Who could that be? Again, a lot of people are thinking it's the man from California. Almost half of Democrats said Biden should step aside. These are the likely Democratic presidential candidates. If Biden drops out, we'll talk about that. Biden's family privately criticized top advisors for pushing for their ouster at Camp David meeting.

Starting point is 00:03:21 Van Jones, he says, high likelihood Biden's victory ultimately means Kamala Harris will be president. Mark Cuban is still betting on Biden. I don't know if you've read the tweet on what he said. We'll read it to you. And sincerely, I want your thoughts on this when you see what Mark Cuban says with his tweet about Biden. Bill Maher calls for Biden to withdraw from presidential rate.

Starting point is 00:03:42 He is going to lose. It's so apparent. And then Bill Maher says, Biden, shit the bed at the debate. His new secret service name is Amber Heard. That's what he's saying. That's freaking funny, man, for him to say that. If you don't know, you don't know. Women alleges United Airlines removed them from their flight after accidentally misgendering

Starting point is 00:04:02 attendant. Okay, and wait till you have a, I'm going to show you guys a video about the United Airlines CEO, which is pretty wild. France, far right, wins first round. A 28 year old, by the way, you've got to see this here. Iran threatens obliterating war with Israel if it launches all out assault against Hezbollah. John Deere, to execute big layoffs in two states and then plans to shift the jobs to Mexico out of all the places.

Starting point is 00:04:29 And that's not a state, by the way, in America. It should be, but it's not a state. Some say it should be. Wealthy Americans are anxious about making ends meet. Real estate expert predicts huge changes in the housing market. The people who ditch smartphones for dumb phones for a calmer life. Maybe it's smarter to have a dumb phone than a smart phone. Like a bandaid on a bullet wound, Hampton's donors divided on Biden after fundraiser,

Starting point is 00:04:54 but everyone complained about the traffic. And we got a couple of the stories here. Them mega donors wanted to hold an intervention, convince Biden to step down after debate implosion. New York Times called him to step out. Federal Reserve preferred inflation metric goes down to 2.6. How Tractor Supply decided to end DEI and FAST. And then one last story, Gen Z shopping decisions are heavily driven by TikTok and influencers. So those are the stories we're going to go through, but let me give you guys an announcement

Starting point is 00:05:26 here. This is a massive announcement. Would you like to meet Dwayne Johnson at the Vault Conference? Let me tell you how. We announced our last Manette contest, which was absolutely insane. We were together at the cigar lounge until midnight. We had some of the best, I wish that was recorded, we had some of the best conversations together. Dinner at Casa de Angel was such a big hit that we're announcing the second official

Starting point is 00:05:51 Manect contest. Listen up everybody. This is big. The first one was a big hit, this is big and it's going to get bigger and bigger. Again, like the last one that we announced, there's going to be light weights, middle weights and heavy weights for experts to compete in. For users asking questions, maybe you've never downloaded the app before. Anybody that hasn't downloaded the app as of July 1st, this contest is as of yesterday,

Starting point is 00:06:20 July 1st, if you've never downloaded the app, you start manecting, you're going to be competing against other people from Manecting to most with others. A Manect is you ask somebody a question and they get back to you. So there's going to be a lightweight and a heavyweight. Lightweight is somebody that's never downloaded the app Manect and that starts as of yesterday. You download it and you start Manecting. And then heavyweight is somebody that has Manectected before, July 1st, and you also compete against people that were competing prior to that, right? You guys will be competing.

Starting point is 00:06:52 Lightweight, middleweight, heavyweight, then you have users and experts, each category. Top three will be at the, what we're going to do this year that's going to be slightly different with this manet contest, top five of each category will be invited, if you attend the vault conference you'd have to buy the ticket, travel everything yourself, but we'll be announcing winners at the vault conference. You'll be walking across the stage, nearly a thousand people in attendance, you'll be walking across the stage and everyone will be publicly recognized at the vault conference. On top of that, first place on each category, lightweight, middleweight, heavyweight of

Starting point is 00:07:32 experts and users and a lightweight expert is somebody that's never been connected before. You download the app and you start sharing with your audience so they start asking questions. First place of each category, at the end of the meeting, when I'm having a conversation with the Rock in the back, you come to the back, you meet the Rock and you take a picture with them at the vault conference. On top of that, you'll be invited to a special dinner that we're having at Manect. You'll be invited to the CO Lounge at the vault conference. And then, aside from that, all of those names that we mentioned, you will be escorted by

Starting point is 00:08:06 a sprinter to my hotel and you'll come to my suite and we will spend a couple hours together talking, strategizing like the last one. All I can tell you is the last one we did was a massive hit. This one's going to be bigger because you're getting recognition in front of everybody. And even the top people of winners, we're going to put your Manect QR code out there so some people can Manect you from the community of Valuetainment and Vault community, which is a massive community. So there you have it. The contest started yesterday.

Starting point is 00:08:33 If you haven't started Manecting yet, download the app, start Manecting. Heck, who knows? I think, Vinny, how many Manects are you away from 3,000? Vinny Goebel Right now, I am two away from from 3,000. Adam Sosnowski Right now I am two away from hitting 3,000. Let's win. Dr. Rav A. Kudaibergen Let's see if you can go pull up that QR code, Rob, with all the people on the, go Manek now. Be the first one to get Vinny to 3,000. Send Manek to Vinny to get him over 3,000. He passed up Tom.

Starting point is 00:08:56 Tom, I think, is also about 20 or 30 away from getting to 3,000. Adam just got to 2,000. So download the app, start Manek. You cannot wait to spend that time with you guys at the vaultk conference. Alright, so let's get right into it. Stories. I think we have to lead with the main story, which is the Supreme Court ruling has Trump, has significant immunity over prosecution. This is a Wall Street Journal story, and let's go through this together. Hang on one second for me. Here we go.

Starting point is 00:09:27 All right. So, the Supreme Court rules 6-3 that former president enjoys sweeping immunity for their acts while in office, significantly impacting Donald Trump prosecution for allegedly attempting to subvert the 2020 election. Chief Justice John Roberts stated that the president may not be prosecuted for exercising his core constitutional powers and is entitled, at a minimum to presumptive immunity from prosecution for all his official acts, the ruling dismissed parts of the prosecution's case against Trump, including his alleged efforts to use the Justice Department to support unsubstantiated election fraud claims and unusual because it just imposes

Starting point is 00:10:08 limited fines or prison time and is in line with other punishment for criminal offenses. Prosecutors cannot inquire into Trump's motives and cannot use his official acts as evidence for unofficial ones making a challenge and toll they trial before election. Tom? Well, I think John Roberts got it right and his quote may not be prosecuting for exercising core constitutional powers. The left is freaking out this morning because they are missing that phrase because they're in denial they don't want to hear it. Core constitutional powers. In other words, if the president is acting as a president you can't turn around and use a law later to say, hey, I'm going to get back at you. And by the way, over the course of the springtime, they also reference this lightly in the ruling

Starting point is 00:10:56 for Colorado because he says they can't create, that the states and the Congress can't be allowed to create what was called electoral mayhem. What do they mean by that? That means if I don't like your guy, I'm just going to start prosecuting him. I really don't care. I don't like what you're, oh, I don't like that executive order on this. I don't like that.

Starting point is 00:11:16 So I'm going to come after you. And so the dissent by Sotomayor was disingenuous at best. She said, oh, we have kings now. So you're a king. You can do whatever you want. You could have SEAL Team 6 take out an opponent. That was ridiculous, hyperbole, from Sotomayor, because of course that wouldn't happen.

Starting point is 00:11:35 If the president used an assassin squad to assassinate a world leader, which is a technique that happens around the world in elections in different companies, different countries not named the United States. That's it. So I thought Sotomayor's response was bad, but this is the Supreme Court getting it right. And what we have here, forget that it's Donald Trump, if you can. Judicial activism has been struck down now three times this year to let our processes and our democracy and our constitutional outline

Starting point is 00:12:05 play out. By the way you know what is scary for Democrats? How many seats did he flip on his first term? Rob can you raise my audio a little bit I'm super low. How many seats did he flip on his first term? Three, Neil Gorsuch, Amy Cormick, Brian. Yeah, and I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm Me go make you bear it. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, have a now So check this out forget so so he's got two more that he could potentially flip if he wins Do you realize if he flips five? that's potentially 30 40 years of Sanity that will be God ran because they'll always protect the decisions that will be made on what happens. Adam, your thoughts on the story? Well, let's start with the fact that Trump

Starting point is 00:12:54 just had the best week ever. You talk about after the criminal charges were weighed against him in New York. Look at what's happened since then. He's raised how many hundreds of millions of dollars? He's out, raised Biden, which is new for him. The debate, which we'll talk about today, what a disaster for Biden. I mean, we'll have that whole conversation. And then the coup de grace right here, the Supreme Court is like, yeah, no, he's good. Like you can't go after this guy. So the Trump camp could not have a better week.

Starting point is 00:13:29 So if you look into this situation right here, you know, we talked about, this is like probably two years ago, three years ago, we talked about the fact of who has the most power in America, which, which entity, virtual government, the president, Congress, billionaires. Yes, exactly. And we didn't have the president, Congress, billionaires. Yes. Exactly. And we didn't have the president in the top three. We had tech companies, we had billionaires, we had all of a sudden the president looks a little loftier than ever. And it's not about Trump and it's not even just about Biden. It's sort of raising the executive office to what is now known as

Starting point is 00:14:06 absolute immunity. Now there's a difference between absolute immunity and what they call presumptive immunity, which we get into the weeds here a little bit. So basically, here's the bottom line with this. Anything within the official executive roles of your job is completely unquestionable and it deserves immunity. So for instance, you can't be prosecuted for any actions you take doing your actual job, i.e. national security, i.e. intelligence and wait for this one, foreign policy. So people are like, you know, George W. Butch is a war criminal. It's like, well, based on this, they're not really going to go after him. Obama and the drone strikes.

Starting point is 00:14:48 No, that's not it. It can't be, you know, Trump January 6th. No, it's all within his official duty. Now what is not within official duty, these presumptive immunities, like, you know how Trump, one time he said, you know, if I shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue, no, if you shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue, like they're going to come after you. Or even Bill Clinton with sort of the sexual harassment stuff. That's not within your role of executive privilege.

Starting point is 00:15:12 But this was a great week for Trump. And this was the coup de grace. You know what the first thing that came to my mind when I saw this ruling time, we were all texting in the group chat was Clarence Thomas came to my head and how yesterday's ruling must have been like a day of joy and vindication because of the history of him and Clarence Thomas and Biden. Think about the history between them. Thomas confirmation hearing, I'm sorry, 1991, where Biden was the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Starting point is 00:15:37 I remember that embarrassment and the hell that they put him through. And Clarence Thomas called it, he said it was a high tech lynching. He said, for uppity blacks who in any way deem to think for themselves, do for themselves, to have different ideas, you will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by the committee of the US Senate rather than being hung from a tree. And Joe Biden was the main lyncher. He was the head of that committee.

Starting point is 00:16:00 And I think yesterday, what a comeback, 30 years later, Joe Biden thought that he was in a ruin. Clarence's time is his career. and then Clarence Thomas gets the last laugh And this is people this is I think it was a documentary How he have how he's saying here that Joe Biden has no idea what he's talking about. Yeah, can we see this? Yeah, go ahead Robbie 30 years later Joe Biden thought that he was in a ruin Clarence's Thomas's career 30 years later, Joe Biden thought that he was going to ruin Clarence Thomas's career. Hold on.

Starting point is 00:16:26 Was that Clarence Thomas or Vincent? I thought that was Clarence Thomas or that might have been me in my own head. No, it's all good. Here we go. Welcome to the blinding light. Look at that smile. Finding out what you mean when you say that you would apply the natural law philosophy to the Constitution is in my view, the single most important task of this committee.

Starting point is 00:16:51 Senator Biden was very focused on natural law. How did that go? Who knows? I have no idea what he was talking about. I just want to make sure we all know what we're talking about here. You and I know at least. No, you don't. make sure we all know what we're talking about here. You and I know at least what we're talking about here. There's a fervent and aggressive school of thought

Starting point is 00:17:09 that wishes to see natural law further inform the Constitution than it does now, argued against by the positivist led by Judge Bork. Now again, that may be lost on all the people. You know and I know what we're talking about. I have to be perfectly honest with you. You sit there and you have no idea what they are talking about. All I know is that he was asking me these questions about natural law. One

Starting point is 00:17:41 of the things you do in hearings is you have to sit there and look attentively at people you know have no idea what they're talking about. I have to cut that together because think about, Tom, how amazing is it that the tides of history turn and then how good Clarence Thomas must feel 30 years later he waited and a decision that they're making is for a highly politicized. And by the way, let me ask a question. I want to get PBD's opinion because even wait in and I'm going to circle back to the state of the union.

Starting point is 00:18:12 Sorry, Tom. Just three short months ago, Biden literally lectured the Supreme Court. Remember that? And they all just sat there frozen, almost solidified as one voice. At this point, the Supreme Court, you know, the chickens have come home to roost. Thoughts on the Supreme Court decision, you know, ultimately Clarence Thomas and John Roberts. So, a couple things.

Starting point is 00:18:36 So one, remember when Chuck Schumer told, I want to say Rachel Maddow, hey, you know, Trump going after, you know, what do you call it, CIA and all these guys? Six Ways of know Trump going after you know what he called it CIA and all these guys ways the Sunday to come after you six ways of Sunday come after you know okay guess what probably a good idea to have a good relationship with the Supreme Court it's probably not a good idea to co-lecture them like their kids you know and you do it and you publicly humiliate them while they're sitting in front of you and you're the president I don't know. I don't know if that's a good idea to do that, right and even

Starting point is 00:19:10 AOC came out and she said I'm gonna be asking for the impeachment of Supreme Court I don't know you guys are not talking about but let me tell you guys this. Here's the thing that no one's talking about So, okay immunity for the president Here's a simple question for you, Adam, Tom, Vinny. Let's face it, which president in the next 50 years, left or the right, you think is going to be using these privileges more? Presidents on the left or the right? On the left.

Starting point is 00:19:43 Exactly. Totally. So to me... They don't get their way, they try other ways. First of all, when I heard this, I'm like, oh shit. I mean, I get it right now, you're going to celebrate and be like, oh, Trump. Yeah. All right, go to 2038. And so, well, the president's got immunity.

Starting point is 00:20:00 Well, the president got immunity. Well, there's Republicans, you guys wanted this. Trump, Trump, Trump. Why are you upset? He's got immunity. He's got immunity. Well, the president got immunity. Well, the Republicans, you guys wanted this. Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump,

Starting point is 00:20:09 Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump,, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump it's so risky, is that look, you know, these guys have to have an element of decision making without worrying about shit-freaking-dumb. The moment I'm done being a president, I'm going to jail. Then I'm not making any decisions. So you also don't want a president that's going to be risking making decisions because an indecisive president is bad for a society and a nation, right? I'll give you sports, okay? I would never own an NBA team.

Starting point is 00:20:51 I would never, ever own an NBA team. Why? Even for a good deal? I would never own an NBA team in the current guidelines that they have because the owners always get screwed because of the contract. The way the contracts in the NBA are set up is in a way that owners have to pay no matter what. I mean, it's so many different, guys can be like, well, I'm not going to be playing.

Starting point is 00:21:13 I don't feel good. I don't feel good. I don't feel good. I don't feel good. Eventually, you know, where the Pelicans were able to put a contract together for Zion Williamson where he was forced to play and had to be under a certain weight. Think about how technical you have to be to create a contract that you had to keep your weight a certain level to get your full pay.

Starting point is 00:21:29 I am not a fan of the way the NBA players. So when they did, when they said, well, we got to do collective bargaining agreement, players association won today. The players association won. Yeah, you know who lost NBA? Who? Fans. I don't watch regular season games.

Starting point is 00:21:45 You know what's the only regular season game I'm going to watch this season? When they say, Ronnie James being in, I just want to see that moment with Father and Son. That's it. That's the only thing I'm going to be watching regular season. I don't give a shit about the rest of it. So yes, players may have won, fans lost, so yes, this may be good now, but I'm telling you right now, conservatives on the right will be complaining about this for the next 50 to 100 years, way after we're no longer here. They'll abuse this in many creative ways and they'll put

Starting point is 00:22:17 it in your face. Yeah, I have three super fast points. Point number one, you read AOC's tweets and what you can see is how the left is arrogant. They are so arrogant. Our decision is the right decision and to hell with the checks and balances, to hell with the constitutional authority, the way it works. We just want to invoke our will and if we don't get it this way, we should get it another way. You read her tweet. Point two. Thank you for bringing up Joe Biden in that hearing. You have to remember the third day of the hearing how Joe Biden looked much, much different. It's because a little coterie of individuals came and visited Mr. Biden,

Starting point is 00:22:55 Senator Biden at that time, led by C. Boyden Gray, who is the chief counsel for Bush Senior. And they presented to him things he had written in the Wall Street Journal about busing. We all know about that, that article, and they said we think they should reprint this and compare it to the position and statements you're taking yesterday. And so that's when Biden turned and went the other way because he realized he had just driven down a dead end street. And so he deserved to be call out. And that was Biden with racist tendencies about the way he wanted schools to continue to be segregated. I mean, to be completely segregated, it was horrifying. And the third point is, Pat, you're right.

Starting point is 00:23:39 What I read yesterday is that Watergate Nixon is still guilty, Monica Lewinsky, Clinton is still guilty. We have to be careful here because the left is going to push over and blur the lines of what they go after. They want to go after anything. They don't think they can get their way here. You're absolutely right. And that's what they're going to use it.

Starting point is 00:23:59 And fortunately, the Supreme Court has put a protection, not a protection, a confirmation that the protection has already existed. So, Tom, I'm 45, you're 49, you know, we have all our, you know, we're all in our 40s. God bless you all. Yeah, but here's what I want you to think about, okay? So, let's flip it. Let's say the left Supreme Court, they have it 6-3 and it's 2054, okay? What's 2054? 30 years from now, okay? And now they have immunity and they have Supreme Court 6-3, what do you think they're going

Starting point is 00:24:39 to be doing? Well, how do you think they're going to be, what do you think they'll be applying? What do you think they're going to be? What do you think they'll be applying? What do you think they'll be implementing? So, anytime we're running a company and we'd be running an initiative or a new guideline for the insurance, we're going to move in forward, we're going to do XYZ, this is what we're going to be doing. I'd sit there and I'm like, guys, this may be good for right now for the next 30, 60, 90, you know how big of a problem this is going to be in five years? There's

Starting point is 00:25:07 no way we can do this. We're not doing that. Even two weeks ago, we made a decision. Remember, two weeks ago when I wanted to do something with a contest and you kind of like, we were in a room, like, what if we do this? I said, no, this is good for the next two weeks, but it's going to destroy the habit in the next five years with what we've done in a placement, persistency, all these things that we've improved. Consequences and reflections from the forward and you have to say back. So I don't know, right now celebrate because I'm sure people are single minded, the fact that hey, as long as he gets in, that's all I care about, I totally get it.

Starting point is 00:25:36 Celebrate that. But I'm telling you long term in 20, 30 years, you'll be remembering this day and you'll say, they're abusing it. It was never meant to be abused. The immunity was never meant to be abused. What do you think they're going to be doing? Abusing it. What do you think they're abusing it. It was never meant to be abused. The immunity was never meant to be abused. What do you think they're going to be doing? Abuse. What do you think they're going to be doing?

Starting point is 00:25:49 You're, you're giving them the green light to, to abuse this, this new ruling. Trump didn't win the constitution one, but they're still coming after the constitution. Yeah. I think, um, you know, the, the, the focus right here is Trump, but, um, the, the, the real story here is the power of the Supreme Court. Remember when Trump ran in 2016, he was sort of campaigning to the evangelicals. He's like, you and me, I might not like Trump, but there's a little something called the

Starting point is 00:26:17 Supreme Court. And we're going to fill the court with conservatives, this is all the abortion debate. And he was absolutely right. And then when Biden won in 2020, there was conversations of what, Pat? You remember this conversation about packing the court? All right, there's nine justices. We're going to add two more to even the balance because it's six, three right now. So Biden is going to pack the court and bring on two more judges and sort of even it out. But basically this does the following. Supreme court has massive power in this country.

Starting point is 00:26:49 We think that it's just the executive office or just Congress, but just they're waiting in the wings. There's three branches of government, the executive, the judicial and the legislative. But the judicial power, you might not know all their names, you might not know what's going on, but behind closed doors, Supreme Court running this country. Yeah. Okay. So let's go to this with all the stories about Biden.

Starting point is 00:27:13 Trump predicts Biden won't be dropping out and says Biden's problem is not his age. This is a talk he gave right after the debate that took place. Obviously, it's been a rough weekend for the biden's but uh... rob if you got this clip going to play this clip of president ronko head job i just problem is that is a just not as anything really it's got no problem other than it's his competence he's grossly incompetent you know they keep saying all i know people that are

Starting point is 00:27:43 much older than him that are doing unbelievable things, making a fortune. I knew a man that at 79, he was never a success and he made a billion, billion and a half dollars from 79 to 92. And that's what it is. It's not his age, it's his competence. He's not respected anywhere in the world, our country.

Starting point is 00:28:06 Okay, so that's his message, right? Now, these are the likely democratic presidential candidates if Biden drops out, okay, as rough debate prompts calls to stand down. And by the way, this is a lot of different people. Van Jones, billionaire donors, the list goes on. Following President Joe Biden's rocky debate performance, there's growing concern within his party that he should step aside to avoid a Trump victory. Potential replacements include Vice President Kamala Harris, whose approval rating is below 40, raising concerns about her electability despite being the most obvious de facto choice. California Governor Gavin Newsom, rumored to have run a shadow campaign, has dismissed

Starting point is 00:28:53 the possibility of running and pledged allegiance to Biden. Other governors like J.B. Pritzker from Illinois, Michigan's Gretchen Whitmer, Colorado's Jared Polis and Pennsylvania's Josh Shapiro, who all won their races by double digits in 2022, are also stomping for Biden and have ruled out against him. Senator Bernie Sanders, who considered running if there was an open primary, has since endorsed Biden. Third-party candidates like RFK and Cornel West, as well-democratic primary contender, Representative Dean Phillips

Starting point is 00:29:25 are not seen as viable alternatives but could use Biden's potential dropout to build support for their campaigns. Tom. So it's interesting that list you have here, data for progress, pop some numbers yesterday and this is everybody you mentioned and I'm going to run down here everybody you mentioned and I'm gonna run down here really fast Trump stays locked in at 47 48 percent against all these people versus Biden only 45 versus Harris she gets 45 Pete 44 mayor Pete Booker 42 hang on you're saying this the visuals got to be there for audience to see hang on oh I'm sorry so you're saying that let the audience also see Rob do you know what he's talking about Rob data for progress? I sent you the link yesterday data for progress scroll down and it shows you all the candidates how they do against Trump

Starting point is 00:30:15 Well over it was a very solid That's it scroll down scroll down scroll down one more keep going and you'll find all the Scroll down, scroll down, scroll down. One more, keep going. And you'll find all the, yep, keep going. And they go against the other candidates. Keep going, one more. One more. Is that it?

Starting point is 00:30:33 That's awareness, there it is. Okay, go ahead. Head to head. So as you can see here, the undecided stays between nine and 11. Now that undecided in this poll was Green, Lib, Kennedy, and undecided. So there's a bucket in there.

Starting point is 00:30:46 Does that make sense? All of those. And you look at it, Trump stays Trump versus by this is national. When you get into electoral and state by state, that's a different story. But on the national level, it doesn't matter. Biden versus Harris. It's the same thing. 48, 45 Trump.

Starting point is 00:31:03 And then Mayor Pete gets only 44 Booker 44 Newsome 44 Whitmer 44 Klobuchar Minnesota 43 then Shapiro and Pritzker. He just brought up 43. So basically you can see there's an entrenchment It doesn't matter who's there. Yeah There's just a little bit more undecided when you get to the candidates that are a little bit more unknown But right now even on a national level remember this has been unusual the national polls for six months Biden's been about one point ahead of Trump on the nationals and it gets different when you look at state-by-state on the electoral college but this shows that America what America is saying is

Starting point is 00:31:45 This shows that what America is saying is, I'm locking in. And there is no big spike for any one Democrat candidate at this hour. So this means no matter who they bring in, Trump's still got to lead over them, regardless of who it is. Today. Today, yeah. But if you look at that, Tom, go to, who's the second to the last one, Rob? Is it Pritzker? Because that camera's covering it.

Starting point is 00:32:07 Is Shapiro going a little higher? Okay, Pritzker's the last one. The independent that gets the most not sure is Shapiro. So that's a three-point lead, three-point lead, three-point lead, two-point lead. So he's got a two-point lead on Whitmer. He's got a two-point lead on Whitmer. He's got a two-point lead on Booker. He's got a three-point lead on Newsom, three-point lead on Buttigieg, and a three-point lead on, yeah, that's interesting to see what's going to be happening. Now, from today, with where, by the way, can you pull up Mark Cuban's

Starting point is 00:32:36 tweet while we're going through this? So here's Mark Cuban after the debate, because there's some people that are saying, we got to replace him, we got to replace him, we got to replace him. This is Mark Cuban. His performance was awful, but so was Trump's. Biden was feeble. Trump couldn't directly answer a single question and lied with every response, which is kind of funny. We'll play a CNN clip of how many times Biden lied, which, Rob, if you can find that afterwards

Starting point is 00:33:01 while we're going through this. But okay, Mark, we'll follow. The question is what features voters believe make a better president, feeble, capable and ethical versus vigorous, unethical and incapable of telling the truth. All right, I'll vote ethical every time. The reality is Joe wasn't capable last night of debating someone who only lies. He doesn't have the energy or the ability to shut him down, hold him accountable, and laugh at Trump's responses. Joe could have held his own against a candidate that actually can discuss policy, but that

Starting point is 00:33:34 wasn't the challenge last night and Joe wasn't prepared or capable of dealing with Donald and his style. That aside, there is no way you could listen to Donald last night, Rob, can you raise it, and come away feeling confident that Trump has the ability to go deeper than his practiced sound bites. He repeated himself often and never directly answered a moderator's questions. There was nothing that would give anyone confidence he could hold his own in any complicated situation or that he could intellectually go toe-to-toe with any world leader or adversary.

Starting point is 00:34:04 The fact that he believes this stuff that he's writing, in fact, his non-answers about J6 and election, well definitely this is going to be bad for you because the immunity that came out, and election acceptance should scare every American about his interest in upholding his oath to the Constitution. That doesn't make Biden's performance any less awful, but he answered the question he was asked. And if the presentation was underwhelming, and we have the last three years plus of his being president without his getting laughed or smirked at, no tell-all or leaks discussing his incompetence, no former advisor or cabinet member saying that they won't vote for him,

Starting point is 00:34:40 that gives me the confidence that in the formal duties of the presidency, he can hold his own and do the job. Unfortunately, this election is not about policies. It's about sound bites, social media, and who delivers them better, and algorithms that deliver them to voters. Trump is far better than Biden in sound bites. How does he end this up, by the way? For that reason, I'm open to discussion to replace Biden. I'm also open to the discussion to replace Biden or Harris. It's not like Trump's approval ratings are high. Beyond the loyalty of his court, 30%, I think large number of people who currently hold them support him would walk away for better alternative. But if it doesn't change, I'm

Starting point is 00:35:13 still voting for Biden, the ethical candidate who can't questionably stands by his oath and puts country over self-interest. Rob, can you pull the CNN clip of, what do you call it, they were fact-checking President Biden? This is again, not Fox, Mr. Cuban. This is CNN, fact-checking President Biden, and it's pretty bad. Go for it. Some of them. He said he's the only president in a while who didn't have any troops dying anywhere in the world. Troops have, of course, died on his watch. He said he's put in a $15 per shot cap on insulin in Medicare. It's a $35 a month cap. He said it's a $200 cap on overall drug spending in Medicare.

Starting point is 00:35:52 It's $2,000 a year. He said the border now has fewer crossings than when Trump was in office. That's generally not true. He said, or at least strongly suggested, unemployment was at 15% when he took office. It was actually 6.4. He said Trump wants to get rid of Social Security. Trump doesn't. He said billionaires pay 8.2% in taxes. It's much higher. He said Trump told Americans to inject bleach amid COVID. We know Trump made foolish comments about scientists studying disinfectant injection,

Starting point is 00:36:18 but didn't frame it as advice to people. And Biden said the border patrol endorsed him. No, it's union supported the border bill he'd supported, never endorsed him himself, and some of them he said. So, yeah, but Tom, let me ask you. Mark Cuban, why do you think he's saying what he's saying? You know, you don't become a billionaire without making the decisions, without, well, maybe he's such a great salesperson

Starting point is 00:36:44 that that's the reason why he's able to sell as good as he does. Does he actually believe what he's saying, Tom? What do you think? No, I, so there's a couple things here. I can't read Mark's mind, but I'll tell you what I see. I see somebody who is a never Trumper and is putting out an argument as a never Trumper. He is absolutely never Trump and I think we have to you know pay close

Starting point is 00:37:05 attention that he is in the middle of very delicate you know regulatory environment for a drug company that he is he is pushing which gets his support dramatically from the left on on on Medicare and Medicare Part D. So I think he's a never Trump or he's trying to construct this argument and he's completely ignoring the feebleness and the capability of Biden and choosing. He's not dumb. He could have found and he probably knew when he was typing that at least half of the things that CNN talked about.

Starting point is 00:37:42 Do you think that Cuban knew at least half those things that CNN talked about? Do you think he recognized those when he was watching? I think he would. Cuban is a smart guy. He's choosing to say, you know, told nothing but lies, told only lies. And I think this is really disingenuous and he's trying to use his place on X to kind of move the mob a little bit. I'm frankly pretty disappointed at it. Adam. Well, you know, they're changing the way that they're spelling Biden's name now. It's no longer B-I-D-E-N. It's B-I-D-O-N-E. By done. Because he's done, man. Oh, there you go, Tom. By done. Yeah, there's a little video right there. They're basically flying a flag over there

Starting point is 00:38:24 above one of his rallies. I'm calling on Biden, but here's where the Democrats are at right now. They have no good options. You just saw the stats. You just saw the polls. He's still their best guy. Which is sad as hell. There's only a few names that you need to focus on.

Starting point is 00:38:39 Forget about the Pritzker's and the Whitmer's and the Booker's and the Jeffries. Those names have zero relevancy. Nobody knows who they are in the national polls. There's only a few names to focus on. Obviously Trump, Biden, Kamala, Newsom, and RFK. Those are the five names you need to know for this election. And Trump, Biden, Kamala, Newsom, RFK. That's all you need to know.

Starting point is 00:39:04 So don't be shocked when you start to see them parade kamala out as if She's gonna be fit for the president. Are you sure cuz they haven't mentioned her at all She must be flipping out meaning have you been hearing about kamala as the main all you've been hearing me She was number two in the polls. You know new some gets all the hype. Let me tell you something, bro You know in the Democratic Party The way that they're playing Identity politics and they're doing DEI you actually think they're gonna put some random white dude has never held executive office or national office above the

Starting point is 00:39:41 black vice president They don't play that game really the only thing they could do So there's base doesn't flip out if they want to do the identity policy thing is Michelle Obama. And I've been saying for four years, Michelle Obama's not running. She's never ran. It's just smoke and mirrors right there. But Kamala Harris is the equivalent of DEI on executive steroids. She's done nothing in her career to warrant being the president of the United States. So, you know, Trump, Biden at this point, we saw what happened Thursday night. It couldn't be unseen. And now they're basically saying, yeah, you know, this guy, they can't finish his sentences. He's going to finish the next four years competency. So there's a lot of people out there saying, listen, you know, I'm not really happy with both choices, but I'd rather have a strong asshole than a weak and

Starting point is 00:40:31 ineffective nice guy. So, you know, I went back and I watched Biden since 2008 because that's really when we really learned about Biden. He was became the vice president for Obama and he was debating Sarah Palin and he was just, you know, had a smile and his, you know, Joe Biden thing going on. Then in 2012, he was debating Paul Ryan against Mitt Romney. And then in 2020, Trump, you say what you want to say about Biden, he had it. And you know, you have it until you don't.

Starting point is 00:41:01 And they say in sports, like, you know, you think that you're playing well, you think you got it going okay. And then all of a sudden, the new guy or the guy that still has it just blows by you. And you're like, what the hell just happened? And Trump just blew by this guy. And it wasn't even close. So you know, Biden would say things like, all right, just just watch me. Just watch me. Well, we watched you, Joe. And if this is the best you have, this dumb democratic debacle that you had a gun had it going on weekend at Biden's. It's pretty happened.

Starting point is 00:41:32 So the, where am I going with this? The democratic party, I was reading this article in the wall street journal, and they basically said the democratic party deserves Biden, but America doesn't. So they've been sort of gaslighting us for the last couple of years. He still got it guys behind closed doors. You know, don't worry about the stumbling, the mumbling. And even as much as three months ago in the state of the union, say what you want. They put them on shots, drugs, steroids.

Starting point is 00:41:58 Yeah, they forgot to shoot them up for this election or for this debate. Where was that? It was just so apparent. And now it's like sort of like the emperor has no clothes on and their basis like, no, he's still got it. And then you see all the, the, I'm shocked. Like the democratic party, Barack Obama, Hey, it was a bad debate. You know, we all have those things. Trust me. This wasn't a bad debate. This was a disaster. You got Jim Clyburn was like, you know, listen, you get three strikes.

Starting point is 00:42:25 This is strike one. Okay. They're just equivocating. What's good. Nancy Pelosi is basically I'm a huge Biden supporter. He's been a great president. Raphael Warnock saying, absolutely not. Don't, don't just play some Bernie Sanders saying, Hey, he was 90 minutes. You know, everyone has it.

Starting point is 00:42:37 This guy lost in the first 10 seconds. His first sentence, he's like, I mean, we watched the debate, we're like, what is happening right now? But here's the reality. I actually think he's still going to be the guy that runs as crazy as it is. He's still the guy. But okay, just to go back, I mean, Mark Cuban, you asked why something either there's a personal vendetta about Trump must have slept with one of his girls back in the day or something because look at that long ass thing. He should write a book called TDS, a story by Mark Cuban, because I've been thinking

Starting point is 00:43:10 about it. Regardless of who steps in, all right, you guys all agree, no matter who it is, the policies are not going to change. So everything that's happening right now is going to keep going, no matter what. The border, economy, inflation, it doesn't, remember when Biden talks about they won't let me, those they aren't going anywhere. And somebody had a crazy idea about how, because we're all confused on, is it Kamala? Are they going to hang on to Joe? And then she steps in, Newsom comes in, she's the president.

Starting point is 00:43:43 Somebody else was like, what if the deep state does some crazy stuff where they try to either assassinate, like get rid of her or get rid of him. Blame it on a MAGA extremist. Blame it on a MAGA person. And oh my God, there goes a martyrdom. Nothing's off the table with that. But again, it's the policies. And I want everybody to know, this isn't election about Joe Biden or whoever. This election is just not Trump. The left doesn't give a shit. They'll put a robot in there if they had to. It's the policies are gonna stay the same.

Starting point is 00:44:16 You know what it is, but you have to also realize you lose a lot of credibility when you gaslight the obvious. He's gaslighting the obvious. I understand debating an issue, okay? I have Billy Carson on and he says what he says about Jesus. Okay, that's your opinion, you're saying what you're saying, fine, great, you have the religious debate, I totally get it. Pro-life, pro-choice, have the debate. Israel, Palestine, have the debate.

Starting point is 00:44:50 Ukraine, Russia, have the debate. But when you say something like that, you're almost telling the American people, I think you really are stupid and you're going to believe me. I agree. That's what you're saying. I agree. And if somebody watches that, you're like, hey, you know how a boy gets to a certain age and they have that feud with their mom or their dad?

Starting point is 00:45:13 And normally the mom, because mom tries to use certain tactics and fears to be able to control because dad doesn't need to use tactics. Dad's tactic is one thing. Pow pow. Pow pow, right? Oh man. Yeah. So mom has to use certain fear, you know, like something. And then you're like, mom, listen, it's done. You can't use this anymore. I'm not a child. Voters are watching Mark Cuban saying, Mark, we get you're successful,

Starting point is 00:45:40 but we now really fully get why you sold your company that, you know, months after you sold it, they, they parked the business because it was so bad. You're a great salesperson. That's what you're very good at. Well, guess what? Good for you. It's great to be a great salesperson. You can make a lot of money.

Starting point is 00:45:55 It doesn't mean you're right. And you know, I think it's a credibility issue when you say stuff like this. Normally, when you're like, okay, something happens. If I ask you right now, you know, a major trade happened, you know, Lakers traded LeBron James, or let's just say whatever, Joelle Embiid. And then who's the first person you want to go to to give their thoughts on that trade? There is a person. I wonder what Stephen A said about this, right? Okay, you know, what's it called? Elon Musk has decided, let's just say, to step

Starting point is 00:46:26 aside from the Tesla board and he is no longer going to be having any influence over Tesla. Who do you want to go hear what they have to say? Certain business influencers? Or what paper are you going to go to? Wall Street Journal, right? Sure. Hey, in the political realm, something happened. Who do you want to go to hear what they said? And when you do this, everyone's like, let me actually see what freaking nonsense bullshit this guy's going to sell me this time, thinking I'm done. So I think that's what's going on here with this guy.

Starting point is 00:46:51 It's so much filled with envy, unfortunately, because I, again, think this ability that he has to gaslight, kind of like Newsom does, these are all great qualities on the left to be a president. These are all great qualities on the left to be a great candidate because if this guy runs 2028 they would be behind him like you wouldn't believe. He would be a, and by the way, how old is he gonna be in four years? How old is he? Is he 62 right now? How old is he right now? 61, 62? What's Mark Cuban's age? 65. So in four years he's 69. By the the way is 69 year old today is like a 20 year old because with the president said we got So he'd be a young man

Starting point is 00:47:30 Can I give you the perfect example of gaslighting like if you're like, what's his gas? I think it was the word of the year. I hate that in 2023. Let me show you what gas lighting looks like and none other than Gavin Newsom when he was on the Right after the debate they they asked him, they said, what do you think on what's going on? He goes, what Biden stepped down? His presidency has been a masterclass. Unbelievable. What are you saying right now? So you're saying that Joe Biden isn't the greatest president of all time? I'm like, is this guy? You actually did a reaction video to this, where you're like like this guy's the best actor we've ever seen

Starting point is 00:48:06 It's amazing like it's incredible forget about Matt Damon forget about Leo. Here's what's going on there, but if any you said something That's actually apropos, especially with more Cuban. Hold on. That's a huge word. Break that down. Yeah, just correct. Thank you Yes the Democratic Party is more focused on Beating Trump than strengthening America. Thank you. Because it was sort of your clincher, your coup de grace that you said the other night, you said, what's she thinking after this debate?

Starting point is 00:48:35 What's Putin thinking after this debate? What are the mullahs thinking after this debate in Iran? They got three months to basically come get what they want. So it's a scary time in America right now, but it's, the Democratic party is, is you made this possible. Joe Biden was supposed to be a one term president. We all know that he was a stopgap, that he was a nice guy. He was a comfortable face. He was a placeholder to beat Trump, who was a weak candidate in 2020, especially after

Starting point is 00:49:09 COVID. And you know, they say that absolute power corrupts absolutely once he's in there and Joe Biden's got that, you know, nice little cozy seat in the Oval Office with Joe Biden. She, you know, they're claiming that she's doing elder abuse. They're like Joe, you got this run again, run again. Don't let him out. Hunter Biden, I guess, is advising him. This should have been for his legacy's purposes. He should have, you know, a year ago said, guys, my job was to beat Trump. I did it. Thanks everybody. I am, you know, passing the baton to Gavin, to Michelle, to whoever it is. But he stayed in there and this is what's happened.

Starting point is 00:49:51 Played that Van Jones clip, Rob? You had a Van Jones clip if you can just play it. You just had it up, Rob. It's okay. Go for it. Joe Biden did a great job today. And that was a relief for a lot of people, but it's hard to unsee yesterday. And it's hard to imagine the guy you saw yesterday making it four and a half more years. And so you do have to acknowledge there is a high likelihood that a Joe Biden victory ultimately means Kamala Harris will be president.

Starting point is 00:50:21 So people need to make the decision, do you feel comfortable? Do you feel good about that? The Kamala Harris you've seen for the past two months, I think any Democrat would feel great about. Oh, what? You are 100% correct. When it comes to women's right to choose, which is the issue that really the Democrats needed a champion on, she became that champion, she's done a good job. The problem is it's coming a little late. And so sometimes the public's opinion of someone

Starting point is 00:50:46 isn't catching up to their performance. So you're gonna see now, can public opinion of her catch up to her performance? Her performance now has been great, public opinion is lagging behind that. Yeah, I mean- Rob, can you do me a favor, get that tweet that Vinny's talking about, Kamala Harris and Elon Musk.

Starting point is 00:50:59 People do like, okay, when you hear, and I just want the public, even if you're a Democrat, when you hear something like that the the lion Coming out of his mouth Kamala Harris is doing a great job like what for the left for the yeah exactly What it but here's the thing she hasn't done anything Like what has she done? She said the last two months the last two months. She's the borders are what she done because You're not wrong. But what she said at this point you're looking at whatever you can to beat Trump and they're saying the number one issue is Roe v Wade.

Starting point is 00:51:31 So in that they're saying Kamala's done a good job with that. Is this the one here, Donald Trump would ban abortion nationwide, President Joe Biden, and I will do everything in our power to stop him and restore women's reproductive freedom. Go lower. And you saw what Elon said at the top? Go lower. Yeah, what did Elon say? He clearly said he would not do so in the debate, Elon said.

Starting point is 00:51:54 And what else is it, Rob? The community note there is there. Yeah, above it, because Elon posted lying about the former president of Donald Trump's abortion stance. He said, community notes, he basically said, we can't let these people get away with lying. And this is the app that lets them, you can't lie and you keep trying to lie. He actually tweeted something about that post. What you have going on with that is, damn it, you took my blankie. Abortion's my blankie.

Starting point is 00:52:16 Why did you take that and have some sort of a moderated position that's going to be good? Look, Kamala Harris is the one who's blanky. Why did you take that and have some sort of a moderated position that's going to be good? Look, Kamala Harris is, there's a lot of things happening. Wall Street Journal today, why Kamala Harris would be Biden's likeliest replacement. And getting past all of the gaslighting. They said, fact, donors asked for a phone call and got their conference call and expressed concern about Biden continuing So not all gaslighting that's real. That's what happened to happens fact There is ambition and factions behind the scene of unprecedented levels

Starting point is 00:52:57 Everybody that you seen in there is trying to raise their hand Gretchen Whitmer actually called the Biden campaign yesterday to say, oh, I wasn't raising my hand and I'm a little bit frustrated that my name's being thrown around so much while you're trying to clarify your position. She's trying to walk both sides of the path there. But there's ambition and factions going with everybody that wants to be there and Kamala Harris's own team has been privately livid that the DNC has not been knocking down the rumors and the other names running around. And in the middle of it they're all gaslighting in plain sight and they can completely see. And there are people, And there are people fact DNC strategist says are we sure we want to leapfrog a

Starting point is 00:53:52 Woman of color who is currently vice president So those are all the facts that are out there these Dems are in right now a hurricane of trouble Led by a lot of ambition and factions and realities as a matter of fact We had somebody on the podcast that said something Roger Stone said that about Kamala that they won't dump a black woman period. I remember. Yeah. And here's my question though, all the money that they've been raising for Biden, how does that work? I heard something where they can't just transfer it to a new somewhere, transfer it that it had to be like a gift. Also the delegates. Also the delegates. By the way, who knows what's up their sleeve? You nailed it. This next, what, 120 some days? This is going to be insane. Do me a favor, go back to that Elon Musk tweet that you had, which is great. This is what we were talking about. When will politicians, or at least the

Starting point is 00:54:40 intern who runs their account, learn that lying on this platform doesn't work anymore. Brilliant. Good for you. Come on, Elon. Let's go. How many views did he get? 48 million people saw this tweet. Sick. I love it. Yeah. You're a liar. Good for you. You're a liar in real time. A couple quick thoughts. The biggest strength that the Republicans have right now, and the Democrats clearly don't, is one word, and that's clarity. Trump's the candidate, it's no question. He's revving up his base. There's a lot of independents who, you know, the movable middle that are like, yeah, they

Starting point is 00:55:18 saw that, they can't be unseen what happened there. And there's a lot of sort of conservative Democrats who are like, yeah, I just can't, I can't do what Biden did. And the other competitive advantage that the Democrats had, at least over the last four to eight years was the perceived moral high ground. The famous Michelle Obama, you know, when they go low, we go high. But that all got exposed. That they basically just been lying, gaslighting, trolling, what they're calling it, misinformation, disinformation, deep fakes. We saw what happened in that debate and it can't be unseen. Yeah, but don't forget though, back, thinking about what's her name, who was just on Vogue, Jill, good old Jill Biden. She's on Vogue.

Starting point is 00:56:00 She's a model now. She's in her husband's ear. You know, she's a an obstacle. She wants to stay in the White House Well, she's the most important. She's the first lady. She wants him to stay and hunter Biden is begging his father He begged his dad to stay in the race because if he's out that piece of crap is going to prison period I want Donald Trump has to go after him. That's on the top of the list top five Yeah, Rob. Can you well first first of all she's she's ridiculous. Well a guy can you go to CNN's YouTube channel Rob? Did you did you watch Jake Tapper who had one of close uh uh go to CNN go there okay and go a little lower right there second video second video that one right there click on that so who is he talking to here? What's his name?

Starting point is 00:56:51 I can't see the title, Rob. Tapper presses Biden's campaign co-chair press skip. Okay, so this is Chris Kuhn. Chris Kuhn is the Senator from Delaware. Yeah, so do me a favor. So he questions him at the beginning. Press play. Night. And I think that was a weak debate performance. I don't think, and I expect folks in the media that I doing unspalled, or the last few heard as president in the South in North Carolina. He wouldn't be running. Go halfway, right?

Starting point is 00:57:18 Go halfway. He talks about it. The race quote, we'd switched to candidates who would according to polls, be less likely to win than Joe Biden, the only person ever to defeat Donald Trump, unquote. Then the email goes on to show polling from, to be honest, partisan pollsters.

Starting point is 00:57:31 The Chos, Vice President Harris, Governor Gavin Newsom, Buttigieg, and how they match up. To be frank, there are only one percentage point behind Joe Biden in those head-to-head matchups with Donald Trump, so it does not actually look as though there would be that much of a difference between the guy who has been president for three plus years and has been spending tens, hundreds of millions of dollars running as a Democratic nominee and the people who haven't even been

Starting point is 00:57:55 running. What are you saying, Jake? What's your question, Jake? How does that make your point? If you have Newsom, Buttigieg and Harris are only one point worse than Biden in the head-to-head matchup, how is that showing some sort of strength of President Biden? Jake, I may be missing something. You're asking me to explain and defend an email that I didn't author or send out.

Starting point is 00:58:22 Keep fast forward. Watch what happens. How do we get the notion that there's actually anything going on beyond just a bad night or a bad moment here or there? Let me just ask you, do you truly think that President Biden is the strongest candidate to take on Donald Trump in November? Look how he answers it. I think Joe Biden, two things, is the strongest, most accomplished president we've had in my

Starting point is 00:58:51 lifetime. In his lifetime. That he's been counted out over and over and over. And he can go to the stage and say, here's my record. I, in my speech at the inauguration, said I was a green time prescription drug and I would go and he's been in. He is not to run up. I mean he has given fewer press conferences, fewer interviews than any president in modern history including the previous one.

Starting point is 00:59:23 This could all be... The previous one told more lies per sentence than any candidate has ever told on a debate stage? This is not the discussion that we're having. We could certainly, you know, have that conversation. I certainly didn't particularly care for it when President Biden said no U.S. service members- Bingo. ... had been killed in the previous four years.

Starting point is 00:59:43 But moving on from things that were said about J. True, I think it is easy to settle this right now by President Biden going to the Brady Press Center, the press file in the White House, and doing a two-hour press conference. Can he do it? Everybody would cover it live. And look what he says. Networks probably would coverhour press conference. Can he do it? Everybody would cover it live.

Starting point is 01:00:06 And look what he says. Networks probably would cover it live. He says he's recommended it. He'd be able to answer all these questions. It's not a crazy thing to expect a president to do. And the fact is, you know that. The campaign knows that. The White House knows that.

Starting point is 01:00:19 That's how you settle this. You just put him in front of reporters, and he handles himself with acuity, aplomb. We all see it was just a fluke Oh my god, I can't believe it happened and we move on. That's right The fact that you haven't done that exactly says quite a bit to me bingo So watch wait, wait, um, Jake what I've just said maybe three times The interview is that is what I am urging and recommending right? I think that the Biden family had a long scheduled family retreat

Starting point is 01:00:44 The last part he asked about Jill because you guys are talking about Jill. You have to hear what he says. They were discussing both this debate and the summer and their plans. And I'm encouraging them to add something like that to the schedule, whether it's a 60 minutes interview or something at the podium at the White House or a town hall. I don't know whether it's going to happen or not. I think that's what I'm going to do. So what he asked him, he says, so what is your thoughts on Joe Biden's, you know, a

Starting point is 01:01:11 lot of people are saying that this is Joe Biden's fault because Joe Biden needs to have the conversation and da da da da da. He says, look, I've known this family for a long time. When Joe wanted to go be a teacher and she wanted to go back to school multiple times, Joe supported him. When Joe said he wants to be a president, Jill supported him. Which means in this family, Jill doesn't like politics. Quite frankly, Jill doesn't like being the first lady.

Starting point is 01:01:35 Jill doesn't like any of this stuff. He didn't say Hunter specifically to Jill, right? And so there's a part of that that one can sit there and say, okay, fine. That's the position you guys are taking. But Jake, pressing him to say, why don't you do a two hour press conference, answer a bunch of questions. Now here's a question. Rob, run a poll. What's the likelihood of President Joe Biden agreeing to do a two hour, unorganized, meaning the people from press can come and ask any questions for two hours. No teleprompter.

Starting point is 01:02:10 What is the likelihood that the president will agree to do a two-hour press conference with people asking questions? Zero. There's no way. Exactly. There's no way. So there you go. You know what's basically happened?

Starting point is 01:02:21 This whole situation reminds me of being a New York Giants fan for football, okay? When your quarterback is complete shit, you talk amongst your friends and your friends that are also Giants fans, it's horrible. But to the public, you're like, no, you gotta stay behind. You're not gonna talk shit about my quarterback. Like, we stand in front of our quarterback. But behind closed doors, we're like, Jesus Christ, Daniel Jones, he's horrible. He fumbles his arm. What is he doing? That's exactly what's happening with that party because for like people like the Harry Sissett 21 year old talking about he's the best you're the great you're lying out of your teeth because you're getting paid for it that is it you don't believe

Starting point is 01:02:55 what you're saying there's absolutely no way now you're pissing me off dude I'll tell you why why you won two Super Bowls with Eli Manning I love it what relax buddy against Tom. Against Tom Brady. Against Tom Brady. You're welcome. The Dolphins haven't had a good quarterback since Dan Marino. Anyway, I digress, but I have, dude, forget about a two hour press conference, Joe Biden, do a 15 minute press conference, get up there and answer a couple of questions. Do an hour, do whatever. You have Jill Biden. If you show that video right there, she literally said the following, you did a great job, Joe. You answered all the questions. She patted them. That's like saying, hey, on the test that you failed, you answered every question. That makes

Starting point is 01:03:37 no sense, bro. You failed the test, but you did the Christmas tree and got everything wrong, Joe. I hate the phrase gaslighting and I hate this word cringe. When people do it, it makes me cringe. This video of her going, and what did Donald Trump do? Why? She turned into a demon for a second. And look, the reality with Trump lying, does Trump elaborate and say things

Starting point is 01:04:03 and sort of hyperbolize everything. Yes. You know, there's three words that Trump uses more than anyone. It's the best, it's the worst, and it's the greatest and it's the most. So it's the best economy ever. It was a good economy. You know, Joe Biden's the worst president ever. He's a pretty bad president. So the lying just has a little gray in it right there. But the thing with Joe, I wanted three questions to ask you guys. Number one, do you think he's actually going to do a press conference? Let's see what the poll says. Number two, do you think Trump will actually agree to another debate with Biden? Because the debate is not scheduled till September 10th. Why the hell would Trump give him another chance to let him take himself?

Starting point is 01:04:49 Yeah, he already failed the test. You think I'm going to give him another one and Trump, you know, he's not afraid to be like, yeah, I'm not debating. Like you saw what he just did in the Republican primary. He's not going to do this. And then here's the last one guys. Did CNN gain or lose a little bit of credibility after the debate? I would argue they actually gained a little bit of credibility, especially Jake Tapper.

Starting point is 01:05:11 Well, remember I said this a year ago, CNN is praying to God that Donald Trump wins. No, I'm dead serious, Tom. So they'll be relevant. They'll have something to talk about. Guys, nothing is going on. Their numbers are showing it. Trump wins. That's why the Jake Tappers, they're kind of leaning like they want Trump because then they could start another four years of Hitler. There'll be another pandemic too. Will Bill Gates get Trump?

Starting point is 01:05:35 That's ratings by whatever name. It's all ratings, bro. You don't want another one. Like this guy, it's over, man. It's over. Adam, he's not going to debate. Trump should 100% let him debate again. There's no teleprompter. Let him go out there and dig his own frickin' grave and let's move the hell on from this horrible guy. A famous poet once said, you need people like me so you can point your fucking fingers and say.

Starting point is 01:05:55 Exactly, that's the bad guy. That's the bad guy. Right, you need it, CNN needs a bad guy. You know, Adam, Tom's trying to say something. No, no, I was gonna say, Jake Tapper, I mean, you're looking at a man in pain, right? That guy, he was just, he was just, did you see him? He was just viscerally in professional pain. I'm not picking on him.

Starting point is 01:06:17 I'm saying, I think- I think you're picking on him, but it sucks. It sucks when CNN- Cook, Tom, cook. Look, he can't win. Tapper comes out and they maintain a certain level of balance neutrality. I agree with Adam that I'm trying to conduct the debate. And then the left came after him. Why didn't you attack? Why didn't you restate truths for Donald Trump? Why didn't you go after him? The left was all over it saying that CNN did a bad job. Now, CNN is looking like the guy that said listen, you know, all I said was I was going to vouch for you, all I said was I was going to help you, how the hell I'd end up in the principal's office if you get suspended

Starting point is 01:06:53 as well. You're looking at CNN, a declining network, and a moment of abject pain because there was no way for them to win. And you take a look at it, history repeats itself. The media was behind LBJ until they discovered how many lies LBJ had told about Vietnam. And Walter Cronkite went on national TV and made a comment about the truth about Vietnam and what was going on. And LBJ told his advisors, if I've lost Cronkite, I've lost middle America because everybody trusted the news. Well, you know, CNN was going along with the charade, trying to help, trying to get it there.

Starting point is 01:07:33 And now they're the ones who kind of egg on their face. And even the liberals don't like them because they didn't attack Trump during the debate. Maybe Rob can find it. Pat, there's a video of Dana Bash. Did you see the video? The camera hits her and she's looking at Biden and she's like, don't look at me, you idiot. Look at Trump. Is it Dana Bash? Look at this. Dana Bash is like, look over there, you idiot. Look, don't look at me. Look over here. Go away, please.

Starting point is 01:07:58 And that's the moment where Joe Biden was like, he doesn't know where to look. Remember the reporter in Miami? What was her name? The reporters in Miami, the debate that we went down when Vivek Ramaswamy went right after Kristen Welker. She was sitting there like she had just sat on ice and it's just freezing. Looking forward, begging a producer to say something. If you want to just use the democratic analogy to Walter Cronkite today, you would argue that maybe Bill Maher probably has maybe the most credibility or maybe a Jon Stewart as far as the left goes. I don't know.

Starting point is 01:08:28 Cronkite, Bill Maher is basically saying, quote unquote, Biden is going to lose. It's so apparent. Biden shit the bed at the debate. His new secret service name is Amber Heard. When you have TDS Bill Maher, who's obviously not a fan of Trump, basically saying like, dude, what is happening right now? He loves Newsome. You've lost. He loves Newsome. He loves him. Which clip is this? This is the Amber Heard clip. Let's see what he says here. I've seen beauty pageant contestants answer questions better.

Starting point is 01:09:03 He's talking about the South Carolina girl. I love how he's the best. Yeah. She is. I love how he, like, look at that audience. I think it's, uh, like, you know, we need education in the Middle East. This new Secret Service name is Amber Heard. I'm telling you.

Starting point is 01:09:20 Oh, this guy is bad. Well, that audience is just all liberal. PBD, let me ask you. You said there was the, you'd be in jail moment of the debate. What was that? Honestly, I have no idea what he's saying. I don't think even he knows what he's saying. That was it.

Starting point is 01:09:38 No, by the way, when the, when the debate started and the first time they asked him the question and in the 10 seconds I said, it's over. I was watching the debate on the stage and then watching you, you look like you were in pain the whole time. First of all, a part of me, I'm always looking for a good fight. I'm always wanting a good fight. This NBA finals, horrible. It sucked.

Starting point is 01:10:07 There was no fight at all. It was terrible, right? You want a good fight. You want to see what's going to be happening. There was zero fight, but once I saw the way he was behaving, I'm like, yeah, this is bad news for the guy. Quick point, by the way, credit to Trump, good or bad, Trump could have been way worse to Biden. Like the fact that he was like, the worst thing he said was, yeah, I don't even know what he said. I mean, you know what he said? He could have been like, he could have stopped the debate and be like, what the hell's going on with this guy right now? This guy is completely short circuiting right now. America, stop, take a look at this vegetable. He could have

Starting point is 01:10:44 completely done that to Biden, but he did it. I don't know if that was a good thing short-circuiting right now, America, stop. Take a look at this vegetable. He could have completely done that to Biden, but he didn't. I don't know if that was a good thing or a bad thing. I think that's a great thing. Are you kidding me? That's because what he showed was, what he showed was grace. You know, he showed that he has it inside of him, that he's got grace. And there's a different part of it. Don't't get don't get it twisted he's a brutal competitor and he has no sympathy for his competitive it's between him losing when you losing it trust me he's interested in you losing right but at the same time he showed grace and if if a part of a the strategy was to not seem too aggressive against him I think he showed

Starting point is 01:11:21 it nice the W form all right so let's go to the next story here. Rob, what's the Jamie Foxx clip? Do you have the Jamie Foxx clip? There's this video with Jamie Foxx that he talks about what happened to him, and then he says what he says. Rob, play had headache. I asked my boy for an ambulance. I was gone for 20 days. I don't remember anymore. So they told me, I'm in Atlanta, they told me.

Starting point is 01:11:54 My sister and my daughter took me to a first-aid center. Nah, they took me to a first-aid center. Next doctor said, some more on up there. I won't say it on camera, I won't say it. What do you think it is, Tom? So if he says, some going on up there, but I won't say it on camera, what are the possibilities of what that could be? Medical experts and other people at the time it happened, I believe what I read from them, they said, he is on the side where you can't come out and say, oh, the vaccine caused something for me or something related to vaccine.

Starting point is 01:12:31 You can't do that. They'll say, you don't know that. You don't know that. But he had a stroke and he had a stroke that came from a blood clot in his heart. I believe that that is exactly what happened. Remember how quiet they were? Jamie's not in a good place. They were given him blood thinners. They were lowering his body temperature. All of that is facts. Why do you give blood temperature? Why are you lowering the body temperature? Why are you doing things like that? I mean not to room temperature but bringing it down. Why was there such concern about this? Because what myocardialtus is a clotting disorder.

Starting point is 01:13:08 He had a clot. It went to his brain. He had a minor stroke and the doctors were heroically and he's still with us and he is not going to say something's going on up there. What could be going on up there? Yeah, he's not mentally. What? Dementia or a stroke?

Starting point is 01:13:22 And so he's not going to come out and say, just just like the NFL isn't gonna come out and say that the player Collapsed because they had a clot episode and he just dropped like a drop like he was shot I think that's what I think that's what happened and I think it was vaccine related That's my opinion and but nobody on that side. Nobody immediate can come out and say that that's not the talking point of the left It's pretty sad though Isn't it be like if that's the case and you had a blood clot by the way I love Jamie Foxx even commented on my on the video that one of the videos that we shot on Instagram is like dude You're crazier or something like that, but um amazing guy

Starting point is 01:13:58 But like something like that when you say that you can't say anything on camera Aren't you kind of like I think Tom be more informative to let other people know like hey listen if you say that you can't say anything on camera, aren't you kind of like, I think Tom, be more informative to let other people know like, hey, listen, if you're thinking about getting this thing, think twice because even at that age, because the myocarditis Tom hits the majority is younger boys, correct? Correct. And who leaked stroke? Somebody saw, was that Tyson that leaked and used the word stroke?

Starting point is 01:14:22 Somebody said the word. At the time that he was in that? Yeah, but regardless, Tom, if you're gone for 20 days, Pat, 20 days you don't remember anything. I think they said, he even said a cortisone shot or something and then he just came up. It's like, if that's the case, I don't think secrecy in that situation is gonna be beneficial for anybody else because I'd wanna know, like, this guy is in great shape.

Starting point is 01:14:44 Jamie Foxx is a freakin' athlete, quarterback, the guy's always in shape. For that to get him at that age, that's not a good sign, man, I think you gotta let the people know. Rob, is this when Tyson was on the pod? Correct, and that's when he said, here, I'll play it. Mike, are you following what's going on with Jamie Foxx? He's not feeling well.

Starting point is 01:15:01 Something's going on with- Yeah, they said stroke, I had no idea what happened to them. Yeah. So, you know, again, with a story like this, to me, what's Jamie Foxx's net worth? Rob, type in Jamie Foxx's net worth. Can I guess? $200 million. Okay.

Starting point is 01:15:20 Let's see what it is. $170 million. Okay. So, Jamie Foxx has F.U. money, okay? So he doesn't have to worry. Now again, that's the internet. Assuming he has $170 million, you know, he gives me the vibes of somebody that's not an overspender. Remember that one story he told? He says, look, you know, Diddy used to put these parties together with a million dollars and he says, I'm going to put a million dollar party. I'm like, Diddy, I'm going to do a party with

Starting point is 01:15:44 $45 and it's going to be a better party than yours. You ever heard him tell the story? Well, I got some chicken wings. We went to KFC. I got some punch. I got some cheap alcohol. And guess what? Ladies showed up.

Starting point is 01:15:55 It was the sickest party I've ever put together with 45 bucks, right? So part of me gives me the vibes that he's frugal and he's cheap. Good for him, okay, if that's the case. If he's got money, the other side is for a creative. You mean to tell me I can no longer play in the playground of an artist? Man, that's like me not having any oxygen. I'm an artist. I will no longer be invited to this and to that and to this, and I won't be in that movie

Starting point is 01:16:21 and to this and this. Yeah, there's no way I can. It is not worth me talking about what happened here. The only other reason you do it is because you know you're at a point where you really don't give a shit because you're like everybody has to know. And it doesn't sound like he's there right now. He still gives a shit. He still gives a shit.

Starting point is 01:16:39 Of course, he's still in the game. He's still in the game. Because they see what happens to people like Gina Carano and Kevin Sorbo. When you're out and your career is canceled, you're out. And I don't even know if he's a Kevin Sorbo or a Gina Carano. I don't think that's Jamie. I think it would be more like a, dude, what the hell was this that we put in our bodies, if that's the case?

Starting point is 01:17:02 And if that's what the doctors told him was the issue if that's the case what's the Likelihood if that is the case that his manager said look you say it. Yeah, I can't get you another job That's what's the likelihoods managers and his agent told him 75 his style wouldn't I'm sorry and you're right I misspoke there I do not saying Jamie Foxx's style would be Gina Corona or Kevin Sorbo It's not but he would end up with the same manager they have. I can't get any calls for you, man. Yeah, I can't get any calls for you.

Starting point is 01:17:29 I would say 80% of that, it's happened. That's where he's at, Adam. Yeah. Well, let me tell you something about Jamie Foxx. Is there a more likable, good-hearted, just down-to-earth movie star? I would argue that Jamie Foxx, I mean, what's the Q score? Would they, when they, he's up, he's, does anybody hate Jamie Foxx? Nope. I mean, there's people out there that don't like Tom Cruise, that don't like Will Smith, that don't like the

Starting point is 01:17:54 rock even. Jamie Foxx, forget about it. This guy's one of the most likable, nicest, good harder guys. Speak about talented. You know, Pat, you always talk about a triple threat. This guy singing, comedy, acting, this dude does it all. And here's what I can guarantee you. Here's what I can guarantee you. I don't know what happened with his medical condition, but when he had his headache and he said that he took an Advil, I'm willing to bet it wasn't the Advil that caused any of these health issues.

Starting point is 01:18:18 So I've been watching Jamie when I used to do standup comedy. I know you did, was was a you were on the I did a show with him. He produced a show with Afion Krock. I forgot the name but I was one of the actors. But Def Comedy Jamie did Def Comedy. I remember watching Jamie Foxx, the Def Comedy. Dude, I remember watching Jamie Foxx on In Living Color and then the Jamie Foxx show and then it was Any Given Sunday and then all of a sudden, boom, Ali, Ray, Django Unchained, another given Sunday, just talented, likable.

Starting point is 01:18:51 By the way, I've hung out with him in Miami too many times to mention nice, sweet, likable. I'm just more than anything happy that he's feeling all right. By the way, I'm not even in the camp of this anybody not like him because Cat Williams said some stuff about him. I think it was something with him and Denzel and a few other guys, Gerard Butler and him. Anyways, a couple stories with the two of them. We invited Jamie to be at one of our events and we almost were able to get it done. Last date complications didn't happen during COVID because he says his sisters

Starting point is 01:19:25 didn't feel something about not comfortable with him coming because of COVID. Anyways, it's not even about, you're not going to be in a space for that long of a time and have everybody like you and you don't create enemies, especially in a creative environment where you're taking somebody else's job. There's going to be moments where something happens, but this position here, if you tell another people could potentially save other people's lives, why wouldn't you want to tell other people? It's a question. Why wouldn't you want to say something to see how other people are going to be processing

Starting point is 01:19:59 that for themselves? Anyways, Rob, San Francisco, folks, I don't know if you've seen these videos, we ain't showing them. But in San Francisco, there was this thing going on called the Pride Month, which, as if one day isn't enough, they needed an entire month, another 140 days for the year to just kind of celebrate all the stuff that they're doing. And you see in the streets, I don't even want to tell you what was happening between two men in the middle of the street one guy was laying in a pool asking other men to use

Starting point is 01:20:30 your imagination on what it is but watch what happened Vinny when this guy's asking the cops what the laws in San Francisco if it's illegal to do this or not go ahead Vinny. Yeah basically Peter so I don't know the guy's name but there's a few of them going around here with cameras. These are cops in San Francisco. They confirm that full nudity is allowed and legal in front of children, in front of kids, at pride events because it's not for sexual gratification.

Starting point is 01:20:57 And what you were talking about, Pat, had to do with guys out in public, naked, doing these acts, urinating and doing all this crazy stuff and this is them and pay attention, what community do you think these cops are in? Go ahead and play Rob. One question for you guys. I'm a news reporter. So obviously there's a lot of nudity around here, men, women, transsexual stuff going on and there's kids wandering around the bend.

Starting point is 01:21:20 I'm not sure on San Francisco's laws or California's laws, is it legal for nudity to be presented in front of kids? Nudity is legal, yeah, within certain boundaries. What are the boundaries, do you know? Uh, you... A couple with a LUD Act. Yeah, anything coupled with a LUD Act or anything being done for sexual gratification that involves other people. Okay, but this event wouldn't be considered for sexual gratification. No, if they're walking around and it's out, that's right. That'd be different than if they're

Starting point is 01:21:45 masturbating or if they're forcing, you know, like flashing people, right? Like trying to get their attention to flashing. Even with kids, it's fine to be nude as long as there's no masturbation or anything like that. Unbelievable. One question for you guys. Okay, like you said, guys, we cannot show the videos, even like libs of TikTok and gaze against groomers, they have to blur out the majority of this stuff. But explain to me, nobody can still explain to me, you're proud about being gay. Congratulations. I think pride and it's a whole different conversation. What does that have to do with you butt naked?

Starting point is 01:22:18 But let's put the kids to the side. You're naked and doing crazy shit like that in the middle of the street. How is that normal? How? What is that doing crazy shit like that in the middle of the street. How is that normal? How what is that doing to further like gay people have made so many strides, Pat, to get to this point. What the hell are we talking about here? Like what do you... So yesterday I had this guy on the podcast. There's five interviews that haven't come out. By the way, I did a two-hour interview with Mark Epstein and we'll go into the Epstein story here in a minute. I'll tell you one thing he told me, a private phone call, I had with Jeffrey Epstein.

Starting point is 01:22:46 But one of the guests I interviewed yesterday was Neil Howe. Neil Howe wrote the book, The Fourth Turning. Tom, did you ever read The Fourth Turning? No, I have not. Okay. So it's about, you know, how every society goes through these four turning point that they go through. One is the high and then

Starting point is 01:23:05 you got, you know, I think it's like the unraveling or the awakening and then it's the crisis. Okay? And they made in 1997 when he wrote this book with his partner William Strauss, they predicted five events that were going to happen. Okay. One of the events was a massive financial crisis. Check. It happened. Second event they predicted was a massive pandemic. Check. It happened. Third event they predicted, Rob, was Russia would invade one of the Soviet Union neighboring countries. This is from 1997 he did this? This is from 1997.

Starting point is 01:23:43 So to rebuild Humpty Dumpty. Yes, to rebuild Humpty Dumpty. Humpty Dumpty. Number three. The fourth one that they talked about had to do something with the tea party. All four happened. The fifth one hasn't happened. And I said, so what's the fifth one? He says every single time when you get to the fourth turning where crisis is here, where you see stuff and behavior that just doesn't make any sense the only way Massive change happens is through war and I said what kind of war he says well You know America has shown all signs of a civil war and I said civil war he says yeah

Starting point is 01:24:21 I says have you heard of a Barbara F Walter? I said, no, I know Barbara Walters. I thought it was his daughter, but it's her daughter, but it's not. Barbara F. Walter wrote a book. Rob, if you can pull up this book, Barbara F. Walter, the book is called The Next Something, Rob. Something, something, if you just go to Amazon, right there. How Civil Wars Start. She goes to all of these countries around the world and interviews people who went through

Starting point is 01:24:48 civil war and asks them a question about how it happened. Every single person from different countries who did not know each other, you know what was the first answer everybody gave? None of us saw it coming before it came. Okay? So I'm like, okay, so fine. I said, so let me ask you this question. You know, what part of these four turnings, he says, because this turning is what leads

Starting point is 01:25:15 to kids becoming artists, this turning is what gave us birth to Walt Whitman and the feminist movement, and he's kind of talking about all these things, right? I said, what part of the turning is with what they're doing in San Francisco right now where men are walking around pleasing each other in public and absolute nudity with kids being around, is any of these turnings have to do where values and principles is completely lost, meaning morals is completely out the window. You're not even thinking about it. He said, yes, that plays a very important role. I said, so how does that common sense come back?

Starting point is 01:25:55 He says, it only happens. The last, all the four turnings that we've studied, every single one of them ends with a war. I said, are you saying this one's ending with a war? He says, I didn't say that. He says, all I'm saying to you is, the previous ones that we've studied, they single one of them ends with a war. I said, are you saying this one's ending with a war? He says, I didn't say that. He says, all I'm saying to you is, the previous ones that we've studied, they all end with a war. And if this one is given signs that it could be a civil war, I said, what do you mean by

Starting point is 01:26:13 civil war? He says, look, when I was a kid, in our community, what's different about today is the fact that in our community, we had relatives that voted for Nixon, we had relatives that voted for John F. Kennedy. It was very simple. Nobody was like, oh, there's voter fraud because there was everybody in our community. He says what's happened in America today is those who are conservatives are all living next to each other and those who are liberals are all living next to each other. So whatever that happens, they can't believe that happened because everybody around them

Starting point is 01:26:44 is what? Like them. That was not the case in the 60s and the 70s. Again, he's saying this, right? I said, so where are you going with this? He says, these are all signs of civil war. These are all signs of civil war. I said, okay. He said, so what you mean to tell me some states may succeed and just kind of be like, we're going to be our own country and et., etc. He says, well, it could happen. It wouldn't be that easy. It could happen.

Starting point is 01:27:10 I said, okay, how high is the temperature right now? Because he said the fourth turning robin is going to go till when? 2028 to early 2030s. Correct. 2028 to early 2030s. They go in 20 year increments. Okay, 46 to 64, 64 to 84, 84 to 08, and now 08 till to 2028. That's what he's saying, maybe early 30s.

Starting point is 01:27:32 I said, how high is the temperature right now compared to what it's going to be if a war comes? He said, we're probably at a five or six right now. Oh, wow, so we're low. So we're probably at a five or six right now. Right in the middle. That's exactly what he's saying. Meaning everything leans towards one of two things. He says look eventually when a fourth turning happened everybody has a

Starting point is 01:27:53 one man that leads it that everybody follows. A leader shows up that he says this is how we're gonna do things moving forward and it's the restructuring of everything. I said restructure on everything? He says, yeah, the restructure on everything. So such as what? He says everything gets restructured. He says during the Great Depression, guess what? A guy came in and says, here's how we're going to do this moving forward.

Starting point is 01:28:15 Everything changed, right? He introduced what? Welfare, all this social, everything. The New Deal. The New Deal, all this stuff, right? It was real, because they're like, oh my God, we're open to it. It's war, let's change Great Depression.

Starting point is 01:28:29 Boom, massive World War II, World War I. So, I don't know, man. All I'm saying to you is some of the stuff that we're seeing that is happening, to me, makes zero sense. When we were in California four weeks ago, and we're seeing some of this stuff, it makes zero sense why that's beneficial to any society.

Starting point is 01:28:47 Zero. So either we're going to be so far off that everybody's going to have their own set of countries you're going to move to, where Florida becomes a country, Texas becomes a country, or you have to go through some shitty times until we all line up and say, you know what, we went a little too far with this LGBTQ stuff. We'll stop. We went a little too far with this. But that was kind of what he was talking about yesterday.

Starting point is 01:29:10 And I'm happy that you say it like that because I'm losing my mind. I feel like I'm living in a different realm, especially when they have the kids doing it in front of the kids and the parents that bring them. And then I realized, PBD, these people cannot reproduce. If you're in that LGBTQ AI plus, whatever, you're not reproducing. So you know how they do it? They recruit your kids. That's how they multiply.

Starting point is 01:29:31 They grab your kids. The kids that are there, remember the last week we showed that trans stripper boobs, that kid was looking at, that kid is going to be traumatized for the rest of its life. And that's how they reproduce because that's how they grab these kids. They grab them young, they're like, hey, it's okay. And that's how they reproduce, because that's how they grab these kids, they grab them young, they're like, hey, it's okay. So it's very interesting.

Starting point is 01:29:48 The city that we stayed in is Graz, Graz, Australia, second largest city in Austria, second largest city in Austria behind Vienna. Graz is also where Arnold is from, right? And so what was very interesting is, there wasn't, we didn't see homeless there. And you know, nothing was perfect, but it was much cleaner, went a lot of homeless. And I asked a couple people what their perspective is on and they had heard a little bit about

Starting point is 01:30:12 the debate coming by Sunday morning. But here is the unified statement. They all were right down the middle with this says, a, and the other word that was used is organized, a strong or an organized America is good for all of us. And when they said us, they mean common Europe. Because when they say us, they've been living as us since EU, the European Union was established. So they talk us a lot. Well, I live here, but when I say us, I mean EU.

Starting point is 01:30:42 You know, we have economy, we have the everything. And he says, a strong America is good. I said, what do you think right now? So we think you're crazy. Yeah. He says, how did this happen? You only have Biden, you only have Trump, because remember, they've got multiple parties and they make coalition governments and things. So they have two views. Number one, a strong and an organized America is good for them. And they're waiting for that. And number two, right strong and an organized America is good for them and they're waiting for that and number two, right now how can you only have these two choices? Look at us, we have all these choices and we got a 28 year old guy coming out of the far right in France. Isn't that interesting? But they

Starting point is 01:31:17 were very complimentary. They were sweet. Well give them our best Tom. No, what I'm saying is they were not aggressive. They were actually balanced. Yeah, that's great. Adam? Yeah. Well, let me address where America stands on the world stage. There was just a recent report, you know, my guy Fareed Zakaria, my guy, I watch him

Starting point is 01:31:37 every Sunday on CNN. He did this global leadership report and it basically sort of broke down how the world views America, not just by itself, but against other world leaders. And it was America versus China was the prime example. They polled, I think, 25 different countries all around the world for US approval ratings versus China approval ratings. By the way, what do you think the results look like around the world? Favorability of the United States of America around the world, 60%.

Starting point is 01:32:13 Favorability of China around the world, 28%. So we're more than double what China stands for in the world. So you know, they're talking about by 2025, China 2025 taking over the world, the world ain't buying it. So, you know, this is why I always say that, you know, America has to basically grapple between being an interventionist or an isolationist. You know, if we lose our place on the world stage, and we retreat from global leadership, China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, they're going to fill that void. So I'm definitely not a fan of just countless endless world wars or funding wars for tens of dollars, but just vacating our position of the number one country in the world for

Starting point is 01:32:59 leadership I think would be a poor decision. With that being said, the world prefers America's Western liberal democratic values over any of these authoritarian dictators. But you know, it's interesting. There was one more stat here. And they said the reputation of America's good for global influence, like is America good or bad for the world? You know what country, they had all these countries, South Africa, Poland, Peru, South Korea, Sweden, Brazil, Great Britain, Malaysia, Australia, Germany, Canada, Turkey, France,

Starting point is 01:33:36 Italy, Spain, Argentina, the list goes on. Do you know that every single one of those countries had a better perception than worse perception of America? Do you know the only country that perception than worse perception of America. Do you know the only country that had a worse perception of America? You know what it was? America itself. We think that we suck.

Starting point is 01:33:53 Americans have been ingrained for the last 10 years that we suck. I can't even show you this stat. Yeah. Yeah. When you're carrying a flag and your autistic kid gets punched in the face. I mean, of course people hate America because they're brainwashed and they're taught to hate this freaking country. And no wonder why this fourth turning is going to happen because we're all freaking separating the body.

Starting point is 01:34:13 Those people who don't live here and see us fighting on our front lawn. What they see is what is around the world and they see what's in their front lawn and as a comparative thing, what Adam is pointing out, the numbers show that they think highly of us. Well, exactly. You know, you always say that words talk, numbers scream, getting that right. The world is looking at America and they're like, guys, you're still number one. Like let's get it together.

Starting point is 01:34:38 And then internally, we're like, yeah, we suck. We're the worst. Gen Z now believes in socialism over capitalism. They think that, you know, Gen Z that Gen Z, the children are our future. They have a negative perception of America. So I think what we need to sort of recognize is as bad as we think it is, as disconnected as we think we are. What's orange, what's blue?

Starting point is 01:34:57 2019, 2024. And then on the left, it's US, how we looked at each other versus today. Correct. Well, that means we look at ourselves less than we did five years ago. That's what I'm saying. That makes sense to me because that's what Biden has done. Good point. But the point is, I actually agree that Americans look at themselves as a country in a weaker

Starting point is 01:35:15 way than we did five years ago. Yes, this is a correct assumption of how we view ourselves in the last five years, if that's his take. Because what's happened in the last five years? Who was president in 2019? What was going on in 2019? ISIS disappeared, economy was good, we're doing great, people are making money, America was proud to be American. We were like, hey, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, doesn't matter today, a lot has changed in the last five years. So that's a massive drop off.

Starting point is 01:35:45 What's the number from Rob? Is it from 50 to 30? Or from 50 to 35? Five to 10? 35, 50 to 34. Yeah. So yeah, exactly. Japan hates us.

Starting point is 01:35:54 Japan hates us. No, but ultimately what these numbers show is that the world has a very good opinion of the United States despite all the differences that we have internally is where we're hemorrhaging. So I actually sent you some headlines from around the world. US extends its lead over China in the race for the world's biggest economy, Bloomberg. Surgeon Wealth has boosted the most US households since 2020 and it helps sustain economic growth. AP, Axios, US winning the world economic war. So his ultimate take is that we should actually have more

Starting point is 01:36:25 confidence in our country that we do. What's my point? We started this segment off about having a civil war. What the hell are we talking about? What does that even look like? There's no longer north and south. So even the reddest of states, two thirds of people in the reddest states are conservative and one third are liberals. In the blue estates, whether it's Massachusetts, whether it's California, what's New York, two thirds are more liberal, one third are more conservative. So, you know, it seems that state by state were sort of fractured, but even within states, you have Republicans, Democrats, purple, red, blue. So what, what would even a civil war even look like? And by the way, I think there's a stat out there that shows that Trump voters, I think 52% say that a secession from the union or a civil war

Starting point is 01:37:12 is more likely, whereas Biden supporters, it's like 42%, still not a good number, you know, anytime we're talking about civil war. But I think it's important to remember the civil war, which was 1861. By the way, let me ask you this. Let me ask you this here. Okay, so go with it. Let me ask you this here. Are you planning on having kids? Yes, I am.

Starting point is 01:37:32 What is the likelihood that you would be okay living in California, in San Francisco? What is the likelihood? What is the likelihood that you as a father with your kids say, something tells me you're going to have a daughter, okay? So say if God grants you a daughter, gifts you a daughter, what's the likelihood? Your wife says, no, babe, let's move to San Francisco, screw all this stuff. And you know, you marry like, you know, AOC's second cousin, okay? And you guys have a kid and she wants to leave this place, and you guys go to San Francisco.

Starting point is 01:38:08 What's the likelihood as the breadwinner of the family, as the moneymaker, you would be okay raising your family in San Francisco? No, it's not happening. I'm staying in Miami, I'm staying in Florida. But why not? Why not? I can go down the list of reasons. Give me...

Starting point is 01:38:19 I'm just not from California. I don't believe in what's going on out there. I do care about taxes. I do care about crime. I do care about cost of living. I do care about taxes. I do care about crime. I do care about cost of living. I do care about homelessness. I do care about not indoctrinating kids. The list goes on and on.

Starting point is 01:38:30 Okay, so let me ask you a question. How much longer until DeSantis is no longer the governor? I think his term comes up in 2028. Can you check, Rob, when DeSantis is done? When is DeSantis' term up? 2028, I want to say. Is that what it is? He got elected in 2022. The governors are six years, right? Doesn't he term out? 2028. Is that what it is? He got elected in 2022.

Starting point is 01:38:45 The governors are six years, right? Doesn't he term limit in 2028? 2027? Okay. So 2027. Okay. So that means we got what? Three more years.

Starting point is 01:38:55 Oh, 2026 election he's out. He term limits to 2026 election and then he leaves January 5th. Guys, just so you know, it's only two and a half years. So what if in 2027 you got a new governor who's a liberal? And what if all of a sudden, hypothetically, Adam, you know, the LGBTQ stuff becomes extremely aggressive in the state of Florida and kids, and what if he stays for eight years, and what if his guy becomes a governor and stays for another eight years in the state of Florida? Sixteen years, two liberal governors, back to back, LGBTQ is on a high rampage here,

Starting point is 01:39:37 it's insanity in schools, you're not in it where you're not hearing what's going on with schools. There was a big Christian school here locally where the senior pastor does an event recognizing LGBTQ. 300 families decided to take their kids out. I think it's either 300 kids or 300 parents collectively got together and that 150 students there. There was a massive exodus of the school here locally in Fort Lauderdale, massive. And I know that for different reasons. So what do you do then, if it's now touching you directly influencing you and your kids directly in the state of Florida? You're saying Florida goes completely from where Woke goes to die to complete Mokeville?

Starting point is 01:40:17 Yes. Yeah, well, I think, you know, the famous saying, you vote with your wallet and you vote with your feet. I think that we saw what happened in California. How many people left California in 2020 during COVID? A million people? They're like, yeah, I can't cosign this. This is not what I'm going to do. And ultimately, I do believe that there's something called equilibrium. I think we've seen- No, no, no, no. Stay on this. Don't play politics. I'm asking you a question. Hear me out. If

Starting point is 01:40:43 that happens and Every year you're living here. It's not getting any better You're after you're after you're after you're after you're after then what do you do? Will you move? Will you move? Okay, so watch this the reason why? 52% of Republicans and 42% are for it is because many people on the left are at a point where they cannot believe some states don't offer abortion rights. And to them, that's part of their rights and their religion. That has to be in place for them. By the way, I respect if that's something that you want to do.

Starting point is 01:41:22 Number two, for them, LGBTQ is a right, needs to be in place. For them, these things are so important that they need to have that they're saying, I'm not going to feel comfortable living in a state like Florida. The point becomes the following, a person like me, I'm willing to bet there is 50 million people who are sitting there saying, nah man, I think, you know, I'd love to have a state I'm living in that the Constitution says never will we impose LGBTQ in our education and schooling, and it's a law. It'll never ever happen in the state like it's a constitutional law. We will never do that, okay? Ever. We will never

Starting point is 01:42:06 allow puberty blockers ever under the age of 18, ever. It's illegal and whoever sells it, it's a crime in our state if you choose to sell it. I'm just giving you some of the stuff where I'm going. There are many families where when you look at the left and the right today with values, where when you look at the left and the right today with values, we are so far off on values, on values. We are so far off in values where it's so hard to have the conversation of what people agree with. Because the three or four things that matter so much to you in your life, you're so far apart.

Starting point is 01:42:42 So what happens, say I bring my kids over to your house, okay, your wife now believes in certain values You're so far apart. So what happens, say I bring my kids over to your house, okay? Your wife now believes in certain values that's different for my kids and she says things like in front of me, imagine we're out to dinner and your wife's there and she says, well, what's wrong? I told my son the other day if he wants to be gay, there is nothing wrong with that. We teach our kids their options early on. I know who you are.

Starting point is 01:43:03 First of all, you're going to lose your shit during dinner, okay? And you're going to say, what did you say to him? I told our son, if he wants to be gay, honey, he can do that, if he wants to do that. But do you know what happens in that moment for me? I can't have my kids be around your kids. Because that to me is a values and principles. That's values and principles that I'm raising my kids with. Not an adult.

Starting point is 01:43:28 Later on in life, 16, 17, 18 years old, that's a different story. If one of my kids after 18 is like, Dad, this is what I like. You know what, bro? Disappointed. But guess what? You made that decision as an adult. It's not going to happen with me being under 18. I'm going to raise you properly.

Starting point is 01:43:42 But it's also not going to be because we're hanging out with Vinny and Vinny all of a sudden is like, what's wrong with you or this? And what's wrong with you or that? Nah, bro, you ain't going to be around it. Being a parent is very, very hard. Very, very hard. So that's the part, Adam, where for the first time, when the way this guy was explaining it to me, and I'm watching the videos in San Francisco, Pride Month, 30 days, 145 days, do you know how far off that is with the values and principles of somebody that's raising a family? And even common sense logic, you're like wondering why our birth rate is 1.6?

Starting point is 01:44:12 Why do you think our birth rate is 1.6? And we're supposed to sit here and buy this like it's a regular thing? No. So to me, I actually fully understand what he's talking about with the 4 turning and actually fully understand why some people are just saying, bro, give me a state with a few million people that we live in, but we have similar values and principles, and just leave us to F alone. And allow me to have certain values for my kids that I don't have to worry about.

Starting point is 01:44:42 That's what I want. Now, you know what this also made me think about? Is the fact that, you know, you know how much the enemy would love all our states to be divided in America? The union to be divided? Because that's how China could win if all of a sudden states start succeeding and kind of like, well, Texas is going to be its own thing, Florida is going to be its own thing. And then the conversation led so much that we looked at which states have the most guns and which states, you know, have the strongest military. You know, you know who has the weakest military in America? West Virginia. You know who has the strongest military in America out of all the states? California. Right. And then we looked at

Starting point is 01:45:18 which states have the most guns, right? What was the number one rap on who had the most guns? Do you remember that yesterday that we went through it? It was a Midwest state. I can't remember which one. Montana. We went through it. We saw Idaho, Montana, Wyoming. No, Montana.

Starting point is 01:45:31 Per capita, Montana was number one. You're right. Per capita, yeah. Yeah, per capita. Montana was one. Wyoming was there. And then you're kind of going through that list where we can defend for ourselves. He says, if it comes on to civil war, you're not looking at the military.

Starting point is 01:45:45 You're looking at what states has people with guns. You're looking at which people have second amendment. You're looking at stuff like that. So yeah, I don't know. You know, I think what's given me a lot of confidence in the fact that that won't happen is only one part of our system. That's given me a lot of confidence and that's Supreme Court. That gives me all the confidence. Thank God.

Starting point is 01:46:10 Because the Supreme, if we didn't have the supreme, if it was six, Sotomayor said, so you mean to tell me somebody can go to a Navy Seal and say, kill my opponent, that's okay, that's immunity? What do you think? Well, first of all, what kind of a judge makes an irresponsible comment like that? What kind of a judge makes an irresponsible comment like that? What kind of a judge makes an irresponsible comment like that? A liberal? Yeah, she's describing something that was not near the same solar system as what the

Starting point is 01:46:32 constitutional action we're talking about talks about. Can I answer your question? She's just like AOC at that moment. Just throw on something out there. I'm with you. And I guess for me, you know, it's all about sequencing. So what's the sequencing of how do we get to a civil war here? So all right, you're pissed, you're angry, you're super upset. Now you're completely enraged. Those are all logical emotions that you're

Starting point is 01:47:00 going to go through. But how do you get to murderous psychopath, civil war, killing your neighbor? Like walk me through how you get there and how that even works. The fact that we're having this conversation. So you're upset, you're angry, whatever. All right, let's go kill people because they don't have different values as you.

Starting point is 01:47:17 It's not, no, no, no, no. It's called defending your values and principles that you're not willing to compromise. So you murder your fellow civilians I'm not saying you're advocating this. I'm just saying like when you're talking about civil war It's not a pillow fight. I mean, it's literally you're killing your neighbor. How does that even work? You're like walk me through how that even works. It's easy to say I'm not saying you're saying pull up How many civil wars we've had in the history of mankind. How many civil wars have we had? In history, how many total civil wars?

Starting point is 01:47:50 Is there a number that says how many total civil wars we've had? I actually would like just to see if, you know, it's going to say how many total civil wars. We've had many, okay? So, in the USA. But how many democracies have had civil wars? That's what I'd be more interested in because in authority and in dictatorships- More than 250 have broken out around the world.

Starting point is 01:48:09 The number of civil wars have been increasing almost 50% in 2022. Then in 2001. Civil wars are large-scale sustained and organized conflicts that often involve regular armed forces. They can result in many casualties and use up a lot of resources. Civil War since World War II have lasted an average of just over four years, which is much longer than the average of one and a half years from 1900 to 1944. See which countries.

Starting point is 01:48:34 Bro, it is about, okay, so what is the fastest way to create an enemy? I learned this at 21 years old. What is the fastest way to create an enemy? It's one thing we do that is the fastest way to create an enemy. Like, my, you know, the average person's temperament can go from zero to a hundred if you try to do this. This is the fastest way to create an enemy. You disrespect, you do something wrong to their kids and family. Nah, it's cool, that's okay. Now, you'll be upset about it. You'll be like, you know, listen, you don't know me, you don't know us, we'll move on.

Starting point is 01:49:08 What do you think is the fastest way to create an enemy? Going after their beliefs, Christianity, religion. But in what way though? If you just make fun of it and you're giving opinions about it, fine, let's have a debate. That's not an enemy. You ready? Imposing, mandating? Okay, there you go. And what is that? It's called forcing change.

Starting point is 01:49:25 Forcing change. They're forcing you to accept LGBTQ. I'm having a conversation with my own kids that, hey, so let me get this straight. If I freaking play professional sports one day, I have to wear that flag on my jersey? Yep. I'm having a conversation with my own kids that, hey, so let me get this straight. If I freaking play professional sports one day, I have to wear that flag on my jersey? Yep.

Starting point is 01:49:33 I'm having a conversation with my own kids that, hey, so let me get this straight. If I freaking play professional sports one day, I have to wear that flag on my jersey? Yep. I'm having a conversation with my own kids that, hey, so let me get this straight. If I freaking play professional sports one day, I have to wear that flag on my jersey? Yep. I'm having a conversation with my own kids that, hey, so let me get this straight. If I freaking play professional sports one day, have to wear that that that flag on my jersey

Starting point is 01:49:48 Yep What what do you mean I have to wear that flag So let me ask you a question So that means that's kind of like saying if you play for this team you have to wear a cross On your Jersey What if I'm a Muslim? play for this team, you have to wear a cross on your jersey. What if I'm a Muslim? What you mean to tell me I have to wear a flag?

Starting point is 01:50:08 Why do I have to wear a pride flag on a freaking jersey? Tell me. Tell me why I have to wear a flag. Does that automatically mean that everybody believes in that? No. Why do I have to wear a flag? You're forcing change. You don't force change.

Starting point is 01:50:24 There are many people in the world that you can get away with forcing change many people in the world 99% of people you're okay forcing change. They'll fight it a little bit and then eventually they'll do what they'll conform Dude the 1% that makes shit freaking happen. You don't force change Specifically changes that have to do with your values and principles not something like this shit freaking happen, you don't force change. Specifically changes that have to do with your values and principles. Not something like this, hey guys, moving forward when you guys come in here, you guys got to do your, what do you call it, scanning? Thumb scan.

Starting point is 01:50:54 I don't know, thumb scan or whatever you do. Here's what you got to do. Why? Security alerts gone up, we have to do this. Okay, cool. Hey, moving forward when we're doing health insurance and enrollment, we have to do XYZ first quarter every month. All right, I don't like to be part of a boring ass meeting.

Starting point is 01:51:06 I got it. But you're talking about forcing change? Like, hey, moving forward, your family has to accept the fact that this is Pride Month. Everything around the schools and sports teams have to be this. Fuck no! What are you talking about? No! That's forcing change.

Starting point is 01:51:24 And that gets it to a point where one finally says, nah, man, what's the alternative? This is not normal to do this. No one is sitting there saying there's anything wrong with that. But you're forcing change. Stop it. Stop it. That's what they're doing. So the only reason one has ever thought about having a civil war is because people keep forcing change. They keep doing this, they keep doing this, they keep doing this, and you know what eventually happens? You're like, hey bro, honestly, I swear to God, this is it.

Starting point is 01:51:58 You cross the line. Right here, you have a problem with me right now. You're forcing change. After here, you can put me in jail if you want to. You are not going to cross this line with my family and my kids. I'll go to jail for this. What do you want to do? Make a decision what you want to do right now.

Starting point is 01:52:14 That's where a lot of people are at today. So I don't want to wake up and have to accept that. And by the way, guess what? People on the other side, that's where they are with abortion. That's where they are with abortion. That's where they are with abortion. And guess what? I respect it. Go.

Starting point is 01:52:28 But I'm not worried about too many feminists causing a civil war. I don't think that nobody's scared of that. Wait a minute. There were patriots out there that were pointing out, and I believe correctly so, that a lot of the COVID measures used by our own government were dress rehearsals for when the government will use certain things to mandate change. You can't fly unless you had your COVID passport or whatever it is. And you know, there's a lot of, and I agree

Starting point is 01:52:50 with them, when the government is forcing change, bad things happen. Look how strongly the reaction came from the 1% over the forcing COVID. We've seen it. We just saw a glimpse of what it could look like. forcing COVID. We've seen it. We just saw a glimpse of what it could look like. Yeah. So anyways, when I was talking to this guy, he gave me a complete different lens on where we are. And I actually understand why, for example, for some of you guys, when you look at the last 30 days, we've sold a lot of shirts. You know what was the top selling shirt in the month of June? Rob, can you pull up the website? Go to Angry Patriot, vtmerch.com, go to shirts. Angry Patriots was the number one selling shirt last month, okay?

Starting point is 01:53:37 Number one, nothing even came close to this. You know why? Because there's a lot of Angry Patriots, okay? There's a lot of Angry Patriots. By? There's a lot of angry patriots. By the way, put the link below for people that want to go to VTMersh.com, order the angry patriots. If you're like Vinny and you're an angry patriot, go sport the gear. There's a reason why this was number one last month.

Starting point is 01:53:57 People feel it. People are going through it. And I don't blame them, quite frankly. I don't blame them. And catch your question, though. Is this a manufactured thing from them because they want us to be at a, they want that chaos, I believe. They want us to go nuts because once that happens, once the civil war hits, Pat, the martial law and the military and everybody takes over, that's how they grab your guns. That's exactly

Starting point is 01:54:18 what they want. So I urge people, don't let them fool you. Don't let them, everybody's black, white race, this and that. Don't let them force shit down Don't let them, everybody's black, white, race, this and that. Don't let them force shit down your throats. It's us against them. Okay? But the moment you let them divide us, they're gonna run away with the freaking gold. The hell with that. Let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. Okay, so watch this. Like tell me, tell me if this is anything normal that a person should be kicked off of a flight. Okay, again, more stuff to be angry about. Tell me if this is common sense.

Starting point is 01:54:47 Women alleges United Airlines removed them from the flight after misgendering a attendant. Jenna Longoria, do you have the clip Rob? Okay, play the clip. Watch this clip. Go ahead. Jenna Longoria, United Airlines, United Airlines, United Airlines, United Airlines, United Airlines, United Airlines, United Airlines, United Airlines, United Airlines, United Airlines, United Airlines, United Airlines, United Airlines, United Airlines, United Airlines, United Airlines, United Airlines,

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Starting point is 01:55:21 They denied us boarding priority. and now they're about to deny us to board the plane. We'll see what happens. Okay Vinny, thoughts on this? Just unbelievable especially coming from, and this goes to the point, PPD, about forcing people. You are forcing language on people. She's like I don't know if it's a he, you know, because the person, they, listen, she's like they or whatever and they kick them off for all the stuff that's happening with United Tom from planes you know parts falling out of this guy fires in the engines all whistleblowers dying you know losing

Starting point is 01:55:57 bags all the stuff that they're worrying about this is exactly going to that your point that they're forcing not only that like policies and people's morals to make sure somebody's language is the way that you want, I think is absolutely ridiculous. I think that she should be able to sue them. Because what the hell are we even talking about Tom? I know that United did a big DEI push. But I mean, what the hell is going on? Well, during COVID, you had people. So let's go upstream, downstream. Not too many years ago, you had flight attendants that really honestly rational flight attendants that were feeling that they were in a position where they were fearing for physical harm. Because they would tell people you got to wear the mask. It's the law of the land and the FAA has put it down. You got to wear a mask on a plane. I'm sorry, you got to do it.

Starting point is 01:56:44 And people were taking it out on flight attendants. Now on the other side, you have people that were hypersensitive flight attendants, oh, you're gonna do that, then I'm gonna use the vote that they have. They have the authority in the name of safety and control, 300 people together in an aluminum tube flying across the US, there's not a lot of space in there for things to get out of hand, right? So the flight attendants have the ability to say, I'm concerned about this person, I'm concerned about their demeanor,

Starting point is 01:57:12 I'm concerned about them triggering other people, I want them off this flight. That's all they have to say. And the FAA is like, well, you flight attendants are the ones that are gonna be a first responder, right? So the flight attendants play that card, and I think it's BS. I think they're playing cards in the name of sensitivity and indoctrination. While there are cases where I have personally seen flight attendants saying, hey, this person,

Starting point is 01:57:36 you're not cooperating, you're getting loud with me. And I've seen them be reasonable saying, you push this any further, I can ask you off this flight. I don't want to do that. I want to get you to where you're going why can't we just calm down and then they do it again they said look I'm sorry they go off here comes security security says I'm sorry you've been taken off the flight but there are situations and if this woman has faced one of those situations where a hyper sensitive flight attendant is trying to make an example of somebody in the other direction, the net is

Starting point is 01:58:05 BS. And I hope this woman takes action and I hope United is paying attention because people like Delta and American factually are kicking your butt. Just look at the stock. Adam. Ironically, this is happening on a United flight from San Francisco to Austin. Weird. So just a little irony right there. So United, you brought

Starting point is 01:58:26 up the DEI. During I think 2020, they put out mandates force where they put DEI mandates into United and they said moving forward, 50% of all pilots are going to be female, 50% are going to be male. There was only one little problem with that. 95% of pilots are male. So now you're just basically, hey, you random Asian lady who's kind of handicapped, lesbian, you're flying the plane now. Well, Boeing says the autopilot works. What's the worst that could happen? Exactly. What's the worst that could happen? But we've realized that we're hiring for merit, not skin color or race or gender.

Starting point is 01:59:08 Can you fly the freaking plane? Can you land the plane safely? That's what we're going for. So interesting here, you have this mother, aka a birthing person who had that child because she has a uterus, aka a front hole, what they want to call these things. But I do understand the ridiculousness of playing the he, she, they, them game when you're just trying to get on your freaking flight. And if you read the details of this thing, you know, there was a conversation

Starting point is 01:59:34 of she had too much luggage or thyroid medicine. There was a situation and I can understand from her perspective, she's probably just like, look, you know, you, they, them, that I don't care what you got going on, dude. I'm just trying to get on the plane and leave. I got my baby in my hand, like have a little empathy, have a little sympathy. And they're like, it's ma'am. Yeah, that's exactly what it is.

Starting point is 01:59:58 She says, I said, look, at the flight attendant, I don't know he, she, they, I'm not versed in pronouns. Can you help me with my son? And he said, ma ma'am you're going to have to step off the plane she further detail that the Staffer initially refused to let her pre-board with her some but later allowed it and after thanking him by saying thank you, sir The staffer appeared upset by the way. Here's what you have to say. Here's what you have to know This is United Airlines, right where a story came out a couple months ago Rob do me a favor and pull up this clip if you could.

Starting point is 02:00:26 If you could be kind enough to pull up this clip. This is the United Airlines CEO. Have you ever seen this? I want to show it to you. I think it's worth seeing, Vinny. Is he doing good, wholesome stuff? Just watch some of this stuff to see why we're not surprised. Rob, if you can pull up this story, it's very telling why we should not be surprised that

Starting point is 02:00:44 a United Airlines would do such a thing And this is the active right now this is the CEO Scott Kirby. Let me see if he's active Okay story is this story is of six months ago. Okay, so this is Scott Kirby There is United Airlines CEO Scott purpose viral drag queen video sparks out. You don't say wait a minute Go a little lower go all the way down to the bottom Scott Kirby's viral drag queen video sparks outreach. You don't say! Wait a minute. Go a little lower. Go all the way down to the bottom. He looks like a little rascal.

Starting point is 02:01:08 Let me read it real quick. So Scott Kirby, CEO of Arizona, is facing severe backlash after a video of him dancing while dressed as a drag queen has resurfaced online. Recently, the 56-year-old was heavily criticized for a 2021 interview where he explained his company's diversity initiatives. After the video, years-old video went viral on social media. Kirby raised many eyebrows about the efficiency of workers at United Airlines. company's diversity initiatives after the video, years old video went viral on social media. Kirkbrady raised many eyebrows about the efficiency of workers at United Airlines.

Starting point is 02:01:29 Go to the bottom and play the video, Rob. Not the only thing he raised. This is the CEO of United Airlines. What the f- That's him? That's him. Oh my, Oh my god. You can pause it at this point. I'm about to... Oh my god.

Starting point is 02:01:53 That wasn't Lady Gaga? So, so, so, so, do you see now why America's angry? Yep. Do you see now why America's sitting there saying, here's a mother holding her child? By the way, to the mothers who are watching this podcast, have you ever gone on a flight where anything and everything that can go wrong with your kid went wrong? When they pooped in the diaper and it leaked, you go to the bathroom to clean it, you get poop on your clothes, on your freaking hands, you're trying to wash it, you smell like crap,

Starting point is 02:02:32 the soap isn't good, you got three minutes to board the plane, and you're trying to feed the kid. He's screaming, he's crying, nothing is going. You ever been on, has that ever happened to you? I've seen that many times. We've got four kids. I used to sit on flights and I used to be like, it's fricking irresponsible parents.

Starting point is 02:02:48 Tell your kid to be quiet. And then I'll never forget one time we're on a flight. Oh my gosh. Senna was not having it. And we were in first class. You go first class so it's peaceful. Our entire family's first class. She screamed for an hour and a half straight. I

Starting point is 02:03:07 Wanted I picked her up to walk her She didn't want to walk with me goes to Jen screaming for an hour and a half We did the ear stuff everything the cups everything you do and we're just looking at everybody like what do I'm gonna tell you at this? Point sorry. I would I'm gonna tell you and at that moment how bad you wanted to get off that plane You know how bad you want to get off that plane and you're sitting there because she misgendered or he, she, they, whatever you want? Get the hell out of here, man. You guys are delusional to think what you're doing. United Airlines, change your company's name to Divided Airlines. Not United Airlines. You are not a United Airlines. Okay? Stop it. Immediate, what's the plea that AOC made to impeach, what do you call it?

Starting point is 02:03:49 I'm drawing up article impeachment against the Supreme Court as soon as we're back in session. Let's do the same thing to change their names from United to divided airlines. Shitty situation there, but if you see the CEOs like that, that makes sense. Now I get it. They should just start charging extra for extra pronouns. Don't be upset, folks. Don't be upset. That's what you get. Everything rises and falls on leadership.

Starting point is 02:04:08 We saw what happened there. Now let's go to trucks. Here we go. John Deere. Tom, I want your thoughts on this because this is a little bit frustrating. John Deere to execute big layoffs in two states, and what do they plan on doing? Shifting those jobs to Mexico. Okay?

Starting point is 02:04:27 All right, here we go. John Deere announced layoffs affecting 610 employees on August 30th, including 280 in East Molan, Illinois, and 230 in Davenport, Iowa, with an additional 100 employees at Duboak, Iowa plant impact that the company cited rising operational costs and declining market demand and will offer supplemental unemployment benefits, profit sharing options, and health benefits. The company plans to move the manufacturing of skid steer loader and compact track loader from Duboque to Mexico by the end of 2026. This follows a 2022 decision to shift part of its tractor and cab assembly

Starting point is 02:05:05 operations from Waterloo, Iowa to Mexico. John Deere estimates about 250 production employees could be affected, but expect attrition and a tight job market to mitigate the impact. Tom? Well, where are they moving from? Two blue states. Two blue states. Where are the governors? The governors have the ability to do economic incentives? We read all about that people in Virginia were upset. Oh, we're gonna give all the success money to to You know to Amazon to build a Headquarters there and then the people in New York were upset that the state of New York was gonna give a bunch of money Governors have control and what you have here is somebody saying, I can't operate in your state. The costs are there. So we're gonna move the jobs to

Starting point is 02:05:49 Mexico. And I don't know why Democrats would be so upset about this because maybe the Mexicans working at the factories that they build in Mexico be the same people that could be working in Arizona because they just... They're there anyway. Which office do you want? Just walk across. Just walk across, yeah. And so what you have here is a simple economic reality being by a long-standing US manufacturer, John Deere's been around forever, and they're simply looking at it and saying, you're not

Starting point is 02:06:19 giving me the playing field where I can make it. And so, and by the way, by the way, they're trying to give transition to these people. They don't hate the workers. They wanna give them extended unemployment benefits. In other words, we wanna help you beyond to find other jobs, beyond even what your state will do for you. So, you know, you look at this, let me tell you,

Starting point is 02:06:43 this is the unintended consequences of bad economic policies. And now, you know, John Deere looks at it and says, well, this is the playing field Bidenomics wants to get me, then this is what I'm going to do. And it's like, you know, congratulations, you got what you caused. Adam? Well, if you look at the numbers here, I'm not, I haven't driven a tractor since I was in North Carolina back in the day.

Starting point is 02:07:10 It doesn't seem like there's that many people moving the jobs, but it's sort of like the canary in the coal mine. It's only affecting 610 employees, Illinois and Davenport, Iowa, to Mexico. But then there's another story here. It's interesting because it's kind of part of this narrative how another company, a tractor supply company, because John Deere is a tractor company. Yes. You're damn right. That's right. Here's another story on the Wall Street Journal. After conservative activists, Robbie Starbuck criticized tractor supplies, DEI efforts on social media.

Starting point is 02:07:45 The company quickly decided to end its DEI programs and did it quickly. So it turns out then this kind of goes to the, what we were talking about with the airlines a second ago, who do you think is buying tractor supplies? Got conservatives out, red state, white people. What rural men? So when you try to implement DEI to a tractor company, you know, let's get all the gays, the blacks, the midgets

Starting point is 02:08:14 of this and they're like, yeah, we don't want any tractor supply companies. So it turns out the story completely backfired and it even says here, this is Wall Street Journal y'all, tractor supply, a retailer with a customer base described as heavily more male and rural. You think. So increasing online backlash.

Starting point is 02:08:35 You don't find those farms in downtown Seattle. Employees. So I mean, it's the same thing we saw with Bud Light. I don't see too many Dylan Mulvaney trans people being like, it's Bud Light time at March Madness. No dudes, college guys drink Bud Light. So it's just further proof that the DEI mandates the force ain't going to work. You know, it's next thing you know, you're going to have a Bass Pro Shop becoming this DEI bastion of LGBTQIA, it's not going to happen. So, the DEI programs... By the way, didn't the one AI company change DEI to MEI? He said, moving forward, it's no longer diversity, equity, inclusion, it's merit, excellence, and intelligence.

Starting point is 02:09:20 So, there you go. Tom. And these guys went into Ed. Tractor Supply stated, it has eliminated DEI roles and carbon emission goals and stopped sponsoring pride festivals and voting campaigns. In other words, they adopted all this stuff because they got all this ungodly pressure politically and from the media. And now the one person who stands tall, you know, I agree with Pat, the Supreme Court will stand tall when things happen with government.

Starting point is 02:09:48 You know who stands tall in the economy? The freaking customer. And the customers have said, you know what, I don't know why you did this. Every time I buy stuff from Tractor Supply, I'm supporting all this. And they're coming back saying, you know what, you're right. We had pressures, we did this. But now guess what? DEI gone, carbon emission goals gone now guess what? DEI gone.

Starting point is 02:10:05 Carbon emission goals gone. Pride festivals and voting campaigns gone. Ladies and gentlemen, we heard you and we're back. Yeah. I mean, look, for me, you're going to move it to Mexico. Forget about the DEI and forget about all this other stuff. You're going to move it to Mexico. John Deere, I don't know if you're following anything with politics.

Starting point is 02:10:25 If you're not, you're about to make a very dumb mistake. So you mean to tell me, you, John Deere, okay, who has a customer base that loves America, farmers, and you're going to decide to move these jobs to Mexico? Do you know if this guy who is from New York that lives in Florida now, part-time, do you know if he becomes president what kind of tariffs he's going to give to you to sell your equipment back to America? Do you know what he's going to do? Wait for a massive surprise. Who the hell sits on this board to think this is a good move?

Starting point is 02:11:03 Who sits on this board to think this is a good strategy move right now, especially after what happened with the debate? I don't know. Not very smart. The guy's going to be waiting like this to give tariffs the moment you move your employees out to Mexico from U.S. But anyways, all right, we cover a lot of different stories, gang. For those of you guys competing for the Manek, go download the app.

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PBD Podcast - Debate Reaction, Trump Immunity, Pride Civil War & Jamie Foxx's Medical Mystery | PBD Podcast | Ep 432

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