PBD Podcast - Did You Ever Have a Playboy Subscription? | PBD Podcast | EP 27

Episode Date: November 20, 2020

In this episode, Patrick Bet-David sits down with Tom Zenner and Adam Sosnick to discuss Dolly Parton's Playboy cover, Norwegian Airlines filing for bankruptcy, AirBnB's IPO, laid off employees are becoming Entrepreneurs in the covid economy, and much more... Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3kF7BT1 Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list The Bet-David Podcast is a podcast that discusses, current events, trending topics, and politics as they relate to life and business. Stay tuned for new episodes and guest appearances. Connect with Patrick on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patrickbetdavid/?hl=en Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/patrickbetdavid Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PatrickBetDavid.Valuetainment To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: [e-mail] About the host: Patrick is a successful startup entrepreneur, CEO of PHP Agency, Inc., emerging author, and Creator of Valuetainment on Youtube. As a natural critical thinker, Patrick takes complex leadership, management, and entrepreneurial ideas and converts them into simple life lessons for today and tomorrow’s entrepreneurs. Patrick is passionate about shaping the next generation of leaders by teaching thought-provoking perspectives on entrepreneurship and disrupting the traditional approach to a career. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

She's singing to the girl that gets all the guys. Yeah. Please don't take my guy away from me. There it is. That's what it's really all about. And by the way, if you just joined us right now and we're talking, I just found out that Adam's a diehard Dolly part and fan. Yeah.

So if you ever thought he was a soul boy, he's definitely not a soul boy. How'd you feel about everybody missing him out there for like a couple of days? I mean, I appreciate the love. It was not a fun love in the comment section. It was really nice. There was some love and there was some extra love. And you know what I mean? Thank you for not firing me according to everyone here.

That was, you know, I'm gonna come to some of these people's jobs, but like fire bill right now. Get him out of here. Show up at his job. But Dolly Parton, she's got a great, uh, great voice. She's Jolene.

Jolene, Jolene. Jolene. Jolene. Jolene. How can you not love Dolly? I've been Gavin Newsom doesn't love her though. Tommy, we're just hating on her. I love hating on Dolly. You said she looked rough in 19.

That was a comment on the on the playboy cover. Playboy. Pull it. Pull it up. Kai, can you pull up the playboy cover? Can you pull it up? I think it's important. What the phrase when you're talking about the playboy cover?

Yeah, pull that. But I either one of you guys subscribe to playboy before or no? You know, I did. I did. You did? Honestly, yes or no? Would I? No, were you a subscriber? Yeah, at one point. Yeah. I won't, I was too. Yeah, in the 90s, there's nothing wrong with that. What's wrong with this cover, by the way? You know, what is I scanned it yesterday, and I think the hair threw me through you off. That's all hair. Everyone's hair looked in the 70s, did it not? But what's crazy is isn't it crazy that after she gave the million dollars, the whole conversation my dolly part and she gives the million dollars to Moderna.

Yes, correct. And then next thing, you know, playboy comes back saying, I know you're about to turn 75, are you willing to do another cover? They offered it to her. They offered it to be on a cover of Playboy magazine. You know, it's brilliant. We've been talking about Playboy, how they're trying to reboot themselves, but that's some smart PR marketing right there. They capitalize at the right time. And by the way, Playboy right now is for sale. I don't know if you

guys know what I'm saying. They're for sale. They're wanting someone to buy them. And I think the right person needs to buy. We've talked about this before already. But anyways, let's get right into the podcast. Let's do it. You doing okay? Have you been okay? Everything fine? Yes. Everything's great. Good to be back. Let's do it. You doing okay? Have you been okay? Everything's great. Good to be back. See everybody. Yes. I got to tell you for all the people out there, we got some hilarious people in the comments

section. They're like, man, Adam looks rough today when Steve Shuddy is like, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, 30 years. I said, yeah, man, it was a rough time. By the way, why don't we start off by giving you some, if you sincerely miss Adam, press thumbs up. If you seriously don't you sincerely miss Adam, press thumbs up. If you seriously don't miss them at all, put thumbs down. Okay.

We're going to cancel the show. Can you cycle handle this? Yeah. Good. No, if there's anybody that's going to do fine, Adam's going to be fine. Okay, we got a lot of things to cover today. We got 10,000 thumbs up. Thanks, everybody.

You got 10,000 thumbs up. Shut down. I love you guys. We got a lot of things to cover. Mario's in the house. Mario, how are you? Mario got a brand new car. He got a brand new Dodge challenger, a challenger ridiculous redwood black wheels that he's a six-speed ticket. It's already but aside from that, it's a very nice car. Okay, so here's the topics we got. The topics we got to topics we got today. Amazon enters the healthcare industry and puts it on notice with its latest push into pharmacy. Okay, that's going to be pretty intense. We got a lot to talk about there. Apple slashes,

App Store fees for smaller developers, which is insane. Insane to think about what they're doing. That's very important to think about because a lot of people are worried about anything you buy on Apple, anything you buy on Apple from the app. Any app on App Store that you buy a product, they keep 30%, they slash it to 15%, which is a big deal. We'll talk about that. Elon Musk is not the third richest man in the world. He's made a lot of money.

I'm sure Adam's gonna give us an update about how much money he's made this year alone. It is ridiculous. It is ridiculous. Kai added this story in here for whatever reason, but we'll just announce it. Norwegian files, airlines files for bankruptcy. He's stuck that in. He was a hard-porkant.

No, that's right. So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about that. He stuck here. He has Zinger. Home Depot and Lowe's are standout winners of the pandemic. We'll tell you why. And the COVID economy, laid off, and employees are becoming entrepreneurs.

We'll talk about that as well. Airbnb goes IPO, Walmart beats analysts, expectation as online orders, orders, surges, 79% revenue's jumped to $134 billion in a quarter. Bitcoin approaches all time high. Elon Musk is joining the SMP 500. Then you have politicians. We got to talk about governor Newsom, what he did recently on the hot city coming out. He had to apologize.

And then yesterday, did you see what happened with Korma yesterday in New York with the whole obnoxious question? Did you see that one or no? Did you actually see the El Puccino? Yeah, we'll show that as well. Where he's just kind of like, what an obnoxious question to ask with this.

And anyways, we'll cover that. And the Blasio came out a couple of seconds later and defended him or no, no, no, and basically gave the state home more like everybody staying home. Yeah, we'll talk about that. That's pathetic. What's going on in those two states? I mean, you got to love those two states.

Florida and Texas are loving those two states or maybe not. A lot of people in Florida and Texas are worried about the politics. Which because people are coming in. Trump pulls troops from Afghanistan. Adams very much of a fan of that. Trump was supposed to go after nuclear sites. We'll talk about that. Nancy Pelosi pleasing with how stems we've talked about that already.

Moderna with an efficacy of 94 and a half percent. And then Pfizer comes out a week later saying, oh, we're not at 90 percent. We're at 95 percent. I'm curious to know what you guys think about that. Basil's gives $800 million donations to climate change. We just talk about Dolly Parton, and we have to cover the James Harden story.

Why these guys want to be preyed to the trade? We just have to cover the James Harden story. But why don't we start off with Apple Slashes, App Store Fees for smaller developers? Sure. Tech giant cuts its take from 30% to 15% for some app makers and a wake-up criticism over its power and a Apple device ecosystem. Starting next year, the iPhone maker said when's that it will collect 15% rather than

30% app store sales from companies that generate no more than $1 million a revenue through the software platform, including in app purchases, the field will remain 30% for developers who sales through the app stores, excluding commissions payments exceed 1 million. So this is for folks that are below a million, meaning the reduction one affects such vocal Apple opponents as video game company, Epic Games, like AKA Fortnite, right?

Which we talked about that before. Apple's 30% takes, has been at the heart of complaints this year from other tech companies and some other users over how it manages the vast digital world of people who uses your iPhone, iPads, pretty much there, you know, a monopoly with this world.

But what are your thoughts about what Apple's doing from 30 to 15? This is something that we covered a few months ago. When Fortnite came out with that, not Fortnite, Epic Games, the owner of Fortnite came out with that sick commercial. I don't know if you want to pull that up where they basically used Apple's infamous commercial from 1984. Sick commercial.

Sick commercial. To take a shot at them. Took a ridiculous shot at basically. Put this whole story on the map. I mean, we weren't talking about the story prior to that. They put the story on the map. Now since then, we've seen Tim Apple, aka Tim Cook, you have to show up in front of Congress, as well as Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg. And they

essentially big tech in Congress. And now basically what Apple did was says, you know what? Here's the commercial. And then the guy throws the unicorn shaped. A fortnight at Apple. And that's a brilliant move that they made. So essentially, what they've been accused of is the big the App Store monopoly, right? So they're monopolizing. You know, these developers that are coming on the website are on the App Store. Now, obviously, there's been big tech regulation. We've seen this happen, everyone in Congress. But what I think they've done is essentially let me read this for you that haven't seen this happen everyone in Congress. But what I think they've done is essentially. Let me read this for you. Sure.

That haven't seen this. Epic Games has defied the App Store monopoly in retaliation. Apple is blocking Fortnite from a billion devices. Join the fight to stop 2020 from becoming 1984. Very fun. They still not on the App Store? They're still not on the App Store. Wow.

Okay. There's still not on the App Store. Clearly a sick commercial commercial clearly spawned just everyone being like, all right, what the hell is going on here? So what I think Apple did here was sort of say, all right, we're getting a lot of hate. We're getting a lot of haters out there. So let's self-regulate before Congress or anyone steps in. So I've got some numbers for you. So in 2019, worldwide commerce, worldwide commerce, Apple generated $519 billion, 85% of that went to third parties, right?

So they generated $54 billion in revenue. What I thought was interesting is the number here is one million. So if you make less than one million revenue, they charge you 15%. If you make more than a million, do you know what percentage of apps on the app store generate more than one million? What percentage? Yes. I'd say 90%. Yeah, a high, high percentage. Okay. Um, point two percent. Wait, say that, ask the question. What percentage of apps on the app store generate more than one million dollars? What percentage generates more than a million dollars is only 0.2% that's already done on the street journal.

Yes. What percentage of apps? Yes. Yes. The question is what percentage of revenues comes to them from those who are less than a million dollars. That's the real question. There you go.

92% Here's the number exactly. 92% of Apple's revenue comes from these companies that make more than a million dollars. Yeah. 0.2%, not 2%, 0.2% comes from apps that generate more than a million dollars. There's 1.8 million apps on the app store. But that's.

And a small, small, small percentage of it is essentially generating more than a million dollars. It's all, it's all it is. So basically, the big dogs who are, or making all the money, the big dogs, they're going to continue to pay 30 percent. They're not affected. They're going to have to pay 50 percent. They're going to be fine.

And then all the small little apps, which essentially 1.799 of the 1.8 million apps are going to pay 15 percent. You got something on the small. Yeah. Well, here's what it is. It's a slow. We did it right there by the way. It's a slum lord lowering rent on low income housing. That's all it is.

He's not touching the rent on the penthouse. Why do you have to? You don't have to. Right. Three things that Apple isn't known for being charitable, being stupid and losing money. Okay. So clearly, this is a PR move. This is all it is because the average person is going to think, oh, wow, Apple's thinking

about me, the little guy, but it's a math problem. That's all it is. There's not nothing's changed as far as their revenue would be. Let me take one of my concerns. I'm gonna take one of my concerns. Here's one of my biggest concerns. I'm being very sincere about this. Everybody knows I'm an Apple guy.

Okay, we got it, an Apple yesterday, right? Everything to us is Apple. We love Apple. There's Apple, there's Apple here, there's Apple here. This is an Apple commercial though. No, no, this is not an Apple commercial. What I'm trying to say is is I'm a pro Apple guy, but I'm gonna tell you what scares the hell out of me with this.

So think about what Twitter and Facebook, so Twitter, perfect example with Twitter. We haven't even talked about this, by the way. It's not even on the story. I don't know why we didn't add it to the story. Jack Dorsche comes out and says, what, we made a mistake. We should have let that new year post story go.

Well, they knew if they would let that new year post story go. Well, they knew if they would have posted allowed that story to go. That would have gotten a few hundred million views that day, right, if they would have let that story go. But now he says, what, I apologize, we did the wrong thing, a week after election. Okay, a week after election, he says that.

The power these big corporations are starting to have is a little too much, little too much. And I'm all capulzo, but watch what happens here. Here's my biggest concern. Apple comes out with the iPhone 12, right? I got it, it's the 512, I'm gonna give away nine of these right now. That's it.

Look at that right there. This is the brand new one. Let me get a look here. Let me get a look here. You got to take it out to see what it looks like with. Oh my God. The new iPhone, if you take the thing out, just to kind of see what they did to the body,

because that's what the difference is. Okay, if you take the sound out, just to kind of see what they did to the body, because that's what the difference is. Okay, if you take the shout, if I can't take it out, I've been gonna hit the weights a little bit more lately, man, this is, so they went back to the old. I'll have a near phone. But look at the, what it is, is the round thing is gone, and you know, by the way, still breaks. Paul bought it the next day he broke it,

so still breaks, if you drop it, you're still gonna break your shout out to Paul Oskar, so he got four break in his new iPhone. Nice, Paul. But the point with this is, my concern is, where's Blackberry? Where's the droid? Where's the Google phone?

There is no competition. Look what's happened here. If I wanted, I'm like, hey, can you get your phone? I'm gonna do an air drop. Oh, I'm droid. Bro, can you get on iPhone? You have to get on iPhone.

I can't do air drop to you. I sent a text. I put a thumbs up on it. You ever done a thumbs up for somebody that has a droid that comes back saying message wasn't received. Why not? Yeah, happens to Eric all the time. That's what you know. That's what you know.

You know, learn to throw up every time I text them. You want to face time a droid. You can't do it. There are, you want to do an iTunes download. You can't do, you want to go to a movie, you do Shazam. Shazam takes you to iTunes. Everything goes to all roads lead to Apple, which is absolutely scary because if Apple doesn't like you

and they decide to take a fortnight out, they can afford to do that. And there's nothing you can say about it. Why? Because it's in a place like this where capitalism needs some work. Meaning, you apples getting to the point of monopoly, apples getting to the point of controlling. This is where somebody's got to get involved because there is no

choices. So any they can do anything they want to do today. They can get away with murder today if they wanted to because we don't have that many choices. So my biggest concern isn't the fact that they're saying, you know, good for them. It's like being progressive taxes, what they're doing. The more money you make, the more taxes you pay. So they just came out with a new progressive tax to say the smaller earners pay less taxes. And quite frankly, if you're making a million, say you're doing $900,000 in apps.

You were paying 30% which is what? 270. Now you're gonna pay 15% which is what? 135. That additional 135 goes to you. What does that 135 pay you? Either three employees or an additional 135 in your pocket. It's a good amount for people doing less than a million dollars, but it's not going to do anything to their revenues

at the top. So my only concern Apple is getting a little too strong. You know, if you're going to be a monopoly like an Apple, potentially, you better have the best product. So thank God they do at least for that. It's no close to it. The other thing that you'd be concerned with a monopoly is the pricing. But at least the iPhone 12 came down a little, right? So and the other right is in the iPhone 12. There was a decent price compared to the 11. It was not part of the story. I mean, this was still 1500 bucks. So, but this is a 512. So I don't know if it's still if it's gone down or not. You know, and then Apple right now has Twitter and Facebook

running cover for them because Congress is more concerned about their censorship and the things that they're doing with the social media as opposed to Apple. They might be able to get away with forming a monopoly where the Justice Department won't be looking at them because they have bigger fish to fry in Silicon Valley with these other clients. You know how they said what comes first is chicken of the egg. Okay, who needs who more?

Google needs to visit Google. Is it Apple? Is it Amazon? Or is it what? Is it Apple? Is it Amazon? Or is it, what's the other one? Is it Facebook? Facebook. Who needs who more? So Apple, Facebook, Amazon, or Google?

Most people are getting all that of stuff from their phone. So you would say that Apple is the gay keeper. That is so dangerous guys. You have to understand. I'm gonna get some kind of Amazon. I'm gonna go on my phone. I'm gonna you have to understand. I'm going to get some gun at Amazon. I'm going on my phone. I'm going on Google number two. What I'm trying what I'm trying to say to you,

that's what's scary. By the way, Google pays Apple 13 billion dollars every year to be on their phone. Google pays Apple 13 bill just to check. Hey, Apple, did you know that 13 billion and maybe be higher right now? Yeah, does that include for a chrome for being on for the day. They pay 13 billion just for up their chrome for their stuff to be on there. 13 billion and maybe be higher right now. Yeah, does that include for a chrome for being on for the day?

They pay they pay 13 billion just for up their chrome for their stuff to be on there. 13 billion. Guess what Apple's gonna do every year? 15 billion 20 billion. Yes, what? No, no, let's negotiate. No, 20 billion. Right.

You can't say nothing because the chicken or the egg that that Apple is, but you know what that is. That's a bit better than Safari. They have to keep having chrome on there. I don't like Safari. I don't know if I disagree with you, but I don't think the answer is they have to. Nothing with Apple right now is they have to. But the fact that they're doing this, I think this is a sign in the right direction.

The fact that they're doing this, this is a little bit of a sign in the right direction. The fact that they're going from 30 to 15%. You can't all of a sudden go say, somebody's giving you a billion dollars of revenues. Oh, we're gonna go to 15% of money getting now half a billion dollars. Who the hell is gonna do that? But the fact that they're doing this, they're trying to get the small developers

to still wanna come and build apps under a platform, which I don't know, but I'm telling you guys right now, Apple's getting a little too, so people are worried about Amazon. All roads, lead to Apple. But doesn't this further your argument

a little bit about the monopolization of this company? Because by lowering that, they're gonna attract everybody. Why wouldn't you go to Apple if you were somewhere else? But if you're an Apple developer, you're gonna pay. I'm gonna ask you this. Let me ask you this. If you're watching this right,

I'm actually curious to know, how many guys don't use an Apple phone? I don't care what phone it is. Just say, I don't use an iPhone, and what kind of phone it is you use. Just type it below and say, I don't use an Apple phone. I don't care what phone it is. Just say, I don't use an iPhone and what kind of phone it is you use. Just type it below and say, I don't use an apple phone. I use Samsung. I use, I use what else is there?

Droid, Samsung, Google, what is it? LG. Huawei, LG. I'm cute. What is the second best one in the world right now? Is it true? That was essentially my question. Is we talked about the monopoly here.

If you're not using Apple, what are you using? What are you using over there, Mario? Apple. Okay. If you're not using Apple, what are you using? So I'm glad you asked that question. And then my second question would be on tax. Is this going to be, and I don't know if we have this answer for some we can maybe uncover, is this 15% versus 30% is that going to be a marginal tax bracket, meaning if

you pay, if you make $1.1 million, is your first million tax at 15%. Yeah. And then you're going to, then your next 100,000 tax at 30%. They're not going to bump you up. Of course, that's what they're going to do. They're going to have to go your first million at 30. First million. And then you go to a market.

They didn't do that. What a shady system. They will get so much backlash if they do it in that way. Kai, what are your thoughts on that, man? And That marginal tax bracket. You learned about that the other day. Yeah. Ask why would I want to make more money if I pay more in taxes? You know Norwegians don't know what guacamole is. Hey, you know what Apple needs to do. You guys not missed the flip phone because don't you need a dramatic way to end a conversation?

You can't do that anymore. Oh, that's right. Having the off button is not to slow it. I'm done. Bam! It's clapping. By the way, is not a word. I'm done. Bam! It's clapping. By the way, I had the Netflix. I should do it so hard that I would break it.

Mine was always the one that would hang off. Do you know what I'm talking about? Why not many people pissed you off every day? Oh, man! You were a lot more aggressive, fact, then. Oh, and that was the thing. You did not even want to know. But okay, here we go.

This is what people are saying. By the way, a lot of people apparently don't use it. Okay, Samsung, Google Pixel. Let's see here. I don't, Jiami, Jiami, I don't know what that's. Android Samsung, Samsung, Samsung's, I use an Android Huawei, Android Samsung, Samsung Galaxy 20, Apple is virus free. Jiami, what is Jiami, by the way?

I use Jiami, XIAM orO.I. Have you heard of that phone? Can you pull it up? I have no idea what that is. One guy stuck here in 1990, he says he used AOL instant messenger. Good luck with that guy. I think go to XIA XIA OMI. What is this? Click on it. Chinese friend. Wow. Okay. It's like a Huawei. Put click on images. Yeah, I've never heard of this. This is great. It's like a Huawei. Put click on images. You have never heard of this. This great. I mean, I love seeing competition.

There's lots of Samsung, Apple sucks. Okay, good. I like seeing that. I like people saying Apple sucks. I hope you stay to that. And I hope, Andrew, so there's got to be some competition. I'm hoping,

Andrew, there's not sitting there behind closed earth saying, guys, we can't compete with these guys. It's over. I'm hoping they're not saying it's over. And they guys, we can't compete with these guys. It's over. I'm hoping they're not saying it's over. And they're probably not, right? I mean, it's big as they are.

I don't know about that because I'm not seeing. By the way, if you're watching this, do you think a, another competitor is going to come and give Apple a run for their money? If yes, put thumbs up. If no, thumbs down, this could have a lot of thumbs down with this one. If you think they are, put thumbs up. If you don't think put thumbs down. What's they going to do? By the the way people actually miss you people actually miss you

Thank you guys love you love you. Yeah, I was surprised What's it gonna take for you to get back to your old blackberry days? If blackberry does something creative it would be but at this point you the business model of phone if you want to compete With Apple you have to do one thing you can't just say let's build a better phone than this. That's not going to work. We have to build a better net. What do I need? So think about it this way. What do you use the most?

Like Microsoft Word, do you use that a lot? What do you use a lot? Use Microsoft Outlook, use Microsoft. What things do you use that's a form of a net? Do you use Google, email, Google, DRA? What do you use that's a net? I think Google is the greatest invention in the history of mankind. I mean, Gmail and the search engine, I don't know how you could possibly live without

it. Okay, so but Google has to go more than that. It's got to be music, it's got to be movies, like it's got to be something more than that. I don't like if Amazon came out and their app is linked to Amazon and movies and if you bought Amazon's phone and then that's it. But Apple has two big of a head start. There's no way because of app stuff because of their their.

Uh, this is this is by the way, this is a meeting content. I mean, look, you buy the phones been the same phone for a long time. They just keep adding more cameras to the back. It's like, oh, we got more cameras than it's faster every time and I buy it. Like, okay, I'm a lawyer. Let's say I keep buying it. Hey, but what about the 5G? Can you tell a huge difference?

Yes, speed is insane. Uh-huh. Speed is insane. Yeah. Speed is insane. I'm not going to lie to I keep buying it, right? Hey, but what about the 5G? Can you tell a huge difference? Yes, speed is insane. Uh-huh. Speed is insane. Yeah, speed is insane. I'm not going to lie to you. It's so fast. And to me, I feel the speed.

It's very good. What was the first year you had an Apple phone? An iPhone. I said, I'm the guy that said I would never flip to an iPhone until this one guy came to my office. I'll remember his name here in a minute. He came to my office and says, let me tell you, 10 minutes, why I need to on an iPhone.

And I said, okay, tell me. so I was trying to do business with, he says, here's why, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I said, me, he's just got a great argument. What year was that? It was in 2007, 2000 and J. I think, no, 2007, 2008. Okay, right, that's my point. It's only been, it's only been 12, 13 years.

So, I'm an Apple guy. Yeah. It hasn't been decades and decades and now, what was your first year that you had a quarter of my life? You know, listen, I had an Apple guy. Yeah. It hasn't been decades and decades and decades. What was your future? So that's a quarter mile. Listen, I had an Apple MacBook in 1995. So I've had the computers in the mid 90s. I had a black. And the iPhone though. The iPhone, I didn't want to switch.

I used to be a blackberry guy and I was afraid. So I just had to never pick it up and it took like one day, 2012 probably. 2012, 2010? I'm losing my memory, I don't know, 10 years ago, something like that. Yeah, okay. I remember't know, 2010? I'm losing my memory, I don't know, 10 years ago, something like that. Okay, I remember what the switch was occurring in the late 2007, 2008-ish. You had friends start popping up with iPhones, I go check this out, I'm like, buddy, blackberry,

what are you talking about? And then... By the way, people, people don't think there's going to be competition for Apple. Did you notice that people don't think there's going to be competition for Apple. Did you notice that people don't think there's going to be competition for Apple? I agree with them. I think it's too tough. The squash them. I trust capitalism.

I just think the government's got to get involved here to say, hey, you guys got a monopoly, we got to break it apart, they got to get involved here. You think the government's show you could have a part? Remember what I'm not a fan of. People think I'm a fan of bullies. The moment a company becomes too big of a bully, not a fan of. Like people think I'm a fan of, I'm not a fan of bullies. Okay. The moment a company becomes too big of a bully, not a fan of them. I don't mind bullying bullies,

but I have a problem when the bully is bullying the little guy. I don't like that when that's what's taking place, right? So right now, you know, Apple can kind of go out there and bully a lot of people. Apple is the bully. Apple, you keep, you keep, you keep. I'm not questioning that. I'm saying Apple is the bully. Even questioning that. What I find humor of people. How was the bully? Apple, you keep, you're not questioning that. I'm saying, Apple is the bully.

Even questioning that. What I find humorous is that Apple was the little startup that could, you know, but they're now so big. Well, David versus Goliath, sometimes David becomes Goliath. Well, exactly. That's my point. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

But they have the mindset of a David. That's why they keep growing. They think like a David. They still think they're nobody. They still think they're the small guy. They still. But they're playing the they still think they're the small guy. They saw, but they're playing the offense in a way that's the game, the game is being won by them.

So, look, there's crony capitalism that makes capitalism look bad. There's monopoly that makes capitalism look bad. Okay, and this is one of those situations. This is not crony capitalism. This is monopoly. You know what I think a huge asset for Apple is? I think Tim Cook is likable. He doesn't come across as a bully. I mean, they're front and center seniors.

The jobs did totally. I took pride in it as well, but here's the opposite. You're right. Here's a guy that de-sac disagrees with 95% of Trump's policies and he goes and works with Trump. I don't know anybody on that side. He just goes and say, Hey, would you like to help us launch the new Mac? Oh, yeah,, short Trump goes, I'd like to come and help the government. I'd like to come because let's sit down and talk. How do you do? You got to respect it. It's a strategic thinker.

You're not. What do you want to do? I don't want to war with the president of the United States and your Apple. It's called setting aside your emotions, buddy. That's what it's called. It's called setting aside your emotions and say, but it's also if you're running a trillion dollar company, you're not like, oh, really? Okay, you want to go there?

Let's go there. Let's go there. Let's go there. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. This is all the time. Go. This leads me to Houston rockets,

which, that's not a trillion dollar. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, the leak. So the NBA has something going on this year, which was they came out and they said BLM Black Lives Matter, the floor, everything, right? Every social about the NBA was social justice. This is not fair. And everybody except for one person followed suit. And who was that one person for Orlando? Jonathan Isaac. Jonathan Isaac. And he broke his name. Yeah, but here's the thing. But he wasn't a star. He wasn't a star. Nobody even knew who he was. Just called him that week for that week. He became the number one, and a number.

It's Jersey. Yeah, behind LeBron, number two, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, yeah. So look what happens with the rocket. So James Hardin says, I want a trade. I was like, why is James Hardin wanting a trade? This guy's been offered 50 million a year. He wants a trade.

What do you mean you want a trade? Okay. So Westberg wants a trade Westberg wants to leave and all this other stuff, right? I know you probably got some insight on this year So yeah, you know the Houston situation is these guys want to go play with Durant Westberg wants to go play with this guy. Is that really what the case was for the last week or so hard as experts concerned behind the scenes Regarding the future of the Rock is as he believes the team's window for competing for championship as close

After last season the 31-year-old guard is ready to join another team of superstar for chance of winning a ring. At this point, he's looking at the nets and a couple of other teams, right? According to the ringer's Kevin O'Connor, Rockets owner, Tillman Fertida specifically doesn't like the idea of trading for hard and for money. Will Tillman Fertida trade James to Darryl Mori? I've been told probably not, O'Connor reports. I think Mori would offer way more than just Ben Simmons.

I've still been told, unlikely that for Tito wouldn't trade him for Mori. Now watch this. Behind closed door story comes out this week about why this is really taking place. Tom, why don't you tell us what that story is? Okay. So Adrian Wajnowski for ESPN, who's pretty biased in his reporting anyway, but he's always right. When it comes to the NBA, the guy knows what's up. He's dialed in. So he said that there's a mini revolt going on inside the Houston locker room right now, because Harden Westbrook, the two leaders of that team, were so upset that Tillman

Fertita, who owns the Lowry's, the big restaurant, Matt Stroze, you know, the big restaurant chain hotels, that he was a supporter of Donald Trump. So there was an open revolt in the locker room. They don't want to play for him anymore. And you know what? I guarantee you, Tillman for tea, it doesn't give a damn about that. He'll probably not trade him because of that. He doesn't care.

He's not going to bow to him. By the way, James Hardin says the window for winning a championship is closing for him. No kidding. You play with Russell Westbrook. How you going to win anything with him? The reason he wants to go to Brooklyn, in my opinion, sure, to play for Kevin Durant, but who's the assistant coach now in Brooklyn? It's Mike Dantonie, Steve Nash hired him.

So his style of ball only works in a few ways, but this is a huge deal. This is huge because what kind of precedent does that send if a star player refute an employee of a company refuses to work because he doesn't agree with the owner's political choices? Isn't this still a free country? My God, I hope Tillman for Cheetah does not bow down to this at all. Yeah, I look, Houston Rockins has been a synch in ship since basically they went all in to trade Chris Paul for a Russell Westbrook. They basically traded away. Anyone over six seven and they were just playing small ball lineup. It clearly didn't work. Darrymori left.

Tillman for Tita. Obviously he's been owned in team for a few years now. For me, this is the first I'm really hearing that Tillman for Tita is a big Trump supporter. And that's the story behind it is a big BLM guy. And he is a great reporter. Well, everyone's a BLM guy in the NBA. You're right. That's not like this. But for him to come out and say that, this is not an inaccurate reporting by him.

I think at the end of the day, the Houston Rockets are sinking ship. They're GM. They traded away their players. If we want to kind of sprinkle in this Tillman for Tito story, that's cool. I have no objections there. The reality is, I don't think James, I don't think he's going anywhere. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

these are two different things here. These are two different things. The report is they don't want to play for a guy that's pro Trump. That's the report. Do you know how many owners in the NBA are pro Trump? No. You can say a good majority of the people. No, no, no, no, no. Okay, yeah, okay, fair.

So like, you're gonna get traded to a team that's supporting. But wait a minute, go there. But go there, go there. What is the consequences of doing that? Go there. The whole idea of saying, you know, I don't want to play for Dan Gilbert because he's pro Trump, right?

Cleveland Cavalier, so LeBron leaves. Yeah. Okay, now let's put, if, if, Dylan Fertata is what? It's for Trump. For what do you say his name? For Tita. For Tita is for what he called it for Trump. So you got Gilbert, you got him. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, his way out the door. So I know that's not the point. It's not the point that is not the point.

Players have been dictating what they want to be doing in the NBA for years now. This isn't a breaking news. It is breaking news about the Trump. No, no, no, no, let me. Anthony Davis, let me explain to you how we got to this story. Let me explain to you how we got to this story. Okay, we started off the first story was Dali Parton. We went right off that right off the bat because he's subscription to Playboy. Then we went to Apple Slashes, Apple ISIS, right? And this led to Houston. Why did this lead to the Houston story? Here's why? Because I made the point that I have so much respect. I tweeted something about Tim Cook and he retweeted it or he liked the post and commented on it. And I said, I have so much respect for a man that disagrees with 95% of what the president

does. He's still willing to set aside his emotions to go out and sit down and talk to him. That is the ultimate respect. I don't have to agree with Tim Cook. I don't have to agree with the way Tim Cook lives. I don't have to agree. He's the first Fortune 100 company CEO that comes out saying I'm gay. I have no, I don't have to agree with anything the guy says,

but the way he handled it in the NBA, they're not handling it that way. Now that I, what the NBA is saying is, you're what? Oh, apps, outstack guys, spread it. Nobody wants to play for the rockets. And this, this, this is,

if I'm the NBA commissioner, Adam Silver, must say something here, I would be very careful with taking the league in that direction. Our company, everybody knows where I'm at politically when it comes on to capitalism. Social, people don't know where I'm at socially because I could be all over the place with socially.

But politically in our company, when it comes on to economically, everyone knows what I am. I'm a capitalist at the highest level, right? One of my guys is a diehard Obama fan. Diehard Obama fan. I went to the bookstore the other day, and I saw an Obama thing, and I said, man, this guy's gonna love it.

I bought it, I shipped it to him, he said, I can't believe he sent it to me, I looked it, you know, and I can go back 15 years, I'm looking for an Obama autograph for this guy to send to him as a gift. Ricky Aguilar, is that a good guy person? It's definitely Ricky. But let me is that correct? That's right. It's definitely Ricky.

But let me tell you what I mean by that. I'm going to send him this Obama thing. He doesn't even know it's going to go to him, right? Why am I doing this? Because to him, that's his hero. No problem. I didn't agree with the Affordable Health Care Act. I didn't.

The NBA has to be thinking about that there's nothing wrong with having Republicans, independents and Democrats. If they go in this direction, it's going to be problematic. The NFL on the other hand, they're okay, what do you want to be? No problem. No one gets ousted. You want to go play the four. They don't want to make this your con.

Go for it. Go. Once you say pigs and you have that and you go to Miami and you support a chavis with Cuban community, you deserve to be ousted. If you say something like that to the Cuban community, that's an insult to what that man to the Cuban community. Do you know, do you know how emotional in this for somebody like me who escaped Iran to come here because of what Jimmy Carter did to Iran? I should be in Iran right now, but I'm here because of what he did. So when you mention Jimmy Carter, I feel it. I feel what Carter it to iran when they had that meeting with the four big empire's

germany france uk and uh... uh... carder and saying hey the twenty five year old contract in irons coming up in nineteen seventy five we got a figure out where to get the sky the hell out of there so we don't have to get the spike of oil prices and boom what happens to your aunt homaniac comes in was no cloud of run a country and next thing you know couple years later, all the military gets killed, the 2000 generals, they get rid of war 500,000 people that just because

Carter said, and all these other guys said, we can't do the 25 year contract again with oil. Yes, Cuba feels it. So when you're a football player, you come in, you wear something like that? That's not even something to joke about by the way. People love their countries. People love where they were born.

I love where I was born. My emotions goes over there. People from Cuba, you want to come and play something like that? I wouldn't tolerate it. Except I would have suspended him. I wouldn't have sat there and said, oh, I'm talking about Kaepernick. Kaepernick would have been suspended for the season. What the hell you were? And over there. If you were socks with pigs on it, not just the pigs to say something about the Cuban community with the, when he wore the shirt, with the shirt that he wore when he was going there, the Cubans were furious when this took place. Yeah, I mean, you don't disrespect, and you do it in Miami.

You do it in Miami. So that's a completely different conversation when you're going with Capronet. Bring this back to Houston. I don't have a problem with, I don't have a problem with what Capronet was talking about the first time he came up and talked about it. I think the mistake on there was Roger Godell took a year and a half to go talk to the guy. No immediate. You should have met with them. But in this situation, you mean to tell me, you cannot be a Republican in the NBA. Oh, that's problematic. Short term, I may look at long term, they're going to pay price for it. I guarantee they're already starting to

pay the price for it. I guarantee you that Adam Silver knows that his brand has been devalued. I watched the NBA draft last night. It was boring as hell. Seriously, it was nothing. There was no juice, nothing. I only recognized like three players. Yes, it has hurt the NBA. By the way, I'm sending Tillman for Tita, no more Mr. Nice Guy book.

All right, I want him to handle this situation with Harden with an iron fist. He's going to get after it. Now look at Harden. I mean, these players are, they have too much power. This is insane. Look what the ramifications of this. James Hardin is saying, I want to leave Texas where I'm going to get $120 million extension with no stating contacts and go to Brooklyn, New York and pay 15%.

So right off the top, that's about $20 million. The other thing too is the agents. The agents are empowering these athletes to a degree that we've never seen before, and it's the same thing in Hollywood. William Morris, CA, ICM, they are so political. I mean, they will fire you as a client if you had one tweet about something positive, positive about a Republican five years ago.

So this is, I guarantee you, this is the number one problem for Adam Silver. He is in contact with Fertida everyday, say, do not budge on this. Let him sit in Houston. They're going to stink this year. Kai, pull up that article right there with Washington Post on what he did. You need to see this. Apparently, both of you guys missed it on what he did.

After a game at Miami, he's wearing a shirt with Castro on it and saying good things about him. An interview. An interview. I would have suspended him for the season. Look at this guy, Colin Kaplan, a girl by Miami Herald over a Fidel Castro shirt. Go up a little bit. Okay, Fidel Castro shirt with the 49ers, Wizard of Miami dolphins this week. San Francisco Colin Kaplan, engagement and conference.

Couple of members of South Florida meeting. How will one reporter want to discuss something that happened in August when Kaplan and World shirt that prepared appeared to show support for Fidel Castro which led to tense exchange. The shirt depicted the scenes from a 1960 meeting between Castro and Malcolm X and it bore the phrase like minds think alike. Like minds think alike seriously. Capitol War to a news conference after the 49ers third preseason game which was when his

refusal to stand during the national anthem became a major story. And if you go a little lower, he said something about the willingness to be open-minded. And he had a couple comments. I'm not talking about fiddle Castro. And his oppression, I'm talking about Malcolm X and what he's done for people. You're not saying that.

You wore that in Miami. One thing that fiddle Castro did is they have the highest literacy rate because they invest more in their education system than they did in their prison system, which we do not do here even though we're fully capable. What? I know that.

What? I mean, when you try to sound it, I mean, so a lot of these comments from people who are coming out here trying to seem political and diplomatic fine, you want to say what you want to say? There's consequences as well. Well, I agree with you on that. Two things, because this is why I respect him cook.

This is why a gay man who is a CEO of a fortune, one company, the second largest company, who is a gay man at a San Francisco who disagrees with everything the man at the White House stands for except for 5% that has to do with economy. He's willing to set aside his beliefs and say, let's figure out a way to business together. He ought to get the businessman, he ought to get an award, whatever the award is, you know how the sports give awards for somebody that's, you know, you do the most charity stuff on the side. There needs to be an edification of how this guy is able to set aside his political agenda

and sit with possibly the most controversial president in our lifetime. Trump and say, let's figure out something else. Yeah, it'd be inspiring for people. And we can't do it, right? That's what they do in the NFL. Like a Nobel Peace Prize, but for business. 100%.

100%. Are you kidding me? I would have his picture and do it. We have an idea for the new creative meeting. There we go. This is, this is, this is, this is, this is, stop you, I'll be thinking about what. You load it down, write it down.

The other thing about Tim Cook, he grew up in Alabama with probably some values, right? I mean, and he's kept to his core a little bit. Well, Capronick also grew up in a right place with some values. How he turned out to be this way is ridiculous, but that's a whole different story. Don't you look at picture of Capronick like that? The last thing I want my quarterback doing is thinking about political statements. Did you spend enough time on the playbook that week? You're so concerned about what shirt you're wearing,

what hat matches it to have a political social statement. I'm all for something inspiring you. I am all for it. Like God knows, I look forward to my guys being inspired by something, right? One of my guys is Cuban and Puerto Ricans. So guess what he did? He went to Cuba. He came back.

I'm like, let me see if this thing's gonna, this thing's gonna like catch fire and it's gonna do something to him or not. He came back to start saying, let me tell you what, it's like in Cuba, I went out there and I was looking at the business, I'm like, okay, I'm listening, okay, good, good, good. By the way, he just crossed a million dollar income. We're paying him net million dollars

his business to 20 million last 12 months. George Palai would just cross a million dollars yesterday or two days ago, 33 years old, 34 years old, he started with me at 18 years old, all over the place, finally he was able to stay focused and I crossed a million congratulations to him But he goes to Cuba. I'm like okay. Let me see what's gonna happen to this guy Matt Saipala starts doing stuff with Marines and military and all the stuff

Then he wears red every Friday. He wears red for what why do what why do they were wretched on Fridays? That's for the Yeah, if you pull up Marines he wears red because the POW I believe Military red shirt Friday military red shirt Friday, right? Red shirt Friday, red on Friday. There you go. Red shirt for military Friday. Where's that going? Go red shirt Friday. Was it remember everyone deployed? Remember everyone deployed red? Yeah.

So he wears a red on Friday. And so you know, that became a movement. People are like saying, you know what? That's pretty cool. People are wondering. I love when something inspires you. But if it does inspire you, don't make ignorant comments without doing your own research on it. Just because you watch one movie, I'm assuming Colin Kaepernick sat one night and watch a Malcolm X movie with Denzel Washington. He was inspired, came on and said, let me tell

you what happened with the movie. I watched last night. Well, what you're talking about is being inspired is you're separating what he did with the kneeling. I don't mind that. I'm saying you're talking about is being inspired is you're separating what he did with the kneeling. I don't mind that. And so I'm saying you're separating that with the Fidel Castro shirt. Yes, two totally different things because I lived in Miami. I never even heard this story. So I'm like, what are you talking about?

It's pathetic. Okay, agree with you on that. There's a lot of Cubans that are probably upset with that. No way they're digging that in Miami or anyone that obviously. I'd love to see him and Mazda that one and two bar together. Oh my gosh. Can I ask you a capitalist question? Sure.

What's going through James Hardin's mind? He has a $200 million contract with the D-DIS. Right. I mean, that's probably where he makes most his money. The bigger stars make more money on their shoe deal than they do on their contract. That's probably why it isn't. He has a cavalier attitude about staying in Houston.

But how do you not worry about turning off a lot of people that will not buy your product because of that? I mean, I just can't figure this out. Why athletes right now have to be so political? I don't think Nike show the no one cares. When they signed Colin Kaepernick and they paid him that money that they paid him and the next thing, you know, Nike stock went up the next and they're just gonna drop when

they did the commercial. Everyone was loving it. Exactly. Everybody thought it was dropped Nike stock went up the next and they're just gonna drop when they did the commercial. Everyone was loving it. Exactly. Everybody thought it was dropped and it went up. No, Nike show these guys don't worry about it. We're fine. We have our community, right? That's what Nike did.

I guess. But I'm telling you, the difference is, here's a difference though. Nike's customers don't care because they're buying shoes they can't afford, but Adam Silver's customers do care. Adam Silver's customers do care. Adam Silver's customers are those who can cut a check for $2.2 billion minimum. Those guys are going to care. So you have a league with 100% of your owners

being Democrat. Let's see how that league's going to do. Let me say that one more time. You go ahead and own a league where 100% of your owners are Democrat. I would never buy an MBA team. I would buy an MLB team. I would, I'm not an NFL guy to buy an NF,

but I would buy an MLB team. Because MLB is a little bit more chill, hey, do your thing. Let's go, you don't like it all. Let's go, they respect everybody. They're, I love that. I love the MLB culture,

but in the MBA side, they don't care with the shoe thing because their customers don't care. The customers of Adam Silvercare. Yeah, you're not saying that all 100% of owners in the NBA are Democrat. You're making an example. Well, I'm trying to say, no, no, but here's what, okay.

So let's just say we, the three of us own a team, okay? And we're all independent or Republican, but we're not Democrats. And we added a 30 something owners in the NBA, we have a call to get them. We have a secret meeting, nobody knows. And I say Adam, how do you feel right now? I'm about how things are going. Dude, I gotta tell you, nobody knows. And I say Adam, how do you feel right now?

I'm about how things are going. Dude, I gotta tell you, I'm getting a lot of pressure, a lot of pressure. How you feeling, Tom? It's a lot of pressure, man. I don't every time I'm talking to Mark Cuban, he's saying this. Every time I'm talking to, you know,

Balmer, he's saying this. Every time I'm talking to these guys, like a lot of pressure right now. I'm kind of being ousted and I'm hearing these guys are talking against me. What do you guys want to do? I don't know. I don't know.

I mean, I ain't gone to the business because it's making money right now, but I'm telling you, I'm thinking about putting it for know. I don't know. I mean, I'll hang on to the business because it's making money right now, but I'm telling you, I'm thinking about putting it for sale. I'm thinking about putting it for sale. If I'm in that community and I'm the minority, why would an Adam Silver listen to me right now? Why would an Adam Silver defend me right now? Adam Silver is about the players.

He's not about the owners. He's not about the leak. He's about the players. That's what he's all about. Which is fine. Your number one product is who? It's players. It's not owners the leak. He's about the players. That's what he's all about Which is fine. Your number one product is who it's players. It's not owners owners don't go out there and play Michael Jordan said I don't see general manager scoring any points. I don't see owners scoring any points It's the players that win the game. He's right, but you got to respect the owners who have opposing ideas. You cannot do that

I got said dangerous place to be I got three points on this number one I love the impersonation of Adam silver on the phone call where he says dude, that was good. Can you imagine Adam Silver using that word? I'm using his body as white as you could get. Tillman, you also missed my little plug for no more Mr. Nice guy because you were looking at Colin Conrad at the time. Bottom line is look at the NBA when they continue to do this, the NBA is going to be like

New York and California. They're going to be, they're going to be falling off the deep end of a cliff pretty soon if they don't get off this socialist stance that they're on because people are getting sick of it. Not socialist, social justice, right? One in the same. I don't know. One in the same, Tom. Socialists and social, they both have the word social in it. Does your mom get social security? As soon she does. So, I mean, let's go. I mean, social justice and social socialism are not the same. My point, my point here was very simple, guys. The whole point about everything we talked about is freaking salute to Tim Cook and Trump for being able to get

along. That's the salute. They don't like each other's policies. They figured out a way to get along because they found something in common. What's the one thing in common? The one thing in common is, hey, let's help the economy. There's nothing you say in a way that's a bad thing. There's nothing wrong with that. They have one thing in common. Let's figure out a way to help advance the economy. And I'm going to be able to help you create jobs.

Let's do this. You don't have to agree with anything that I do or any way I live. You don't even have to vote for me. I'm not even going to vote for you, but I'll sit there and do business with you, and I respect that. Salute to Tim Cook. What if you're listening to this?

Can you imagine he gets 500 tweets saying, I respect you, Tim Cook. Dude, he's not even gonna have a clue where it's gonna come from. Sometimes a guy like that, people forget to recognize him for what he's doing. He's gotta think it's because he lowered the price on the App Store monopoly. It is what I always say.

I always circle back to them. Anyways, so that's what I'm at with that. Did you have final thoughts on it or no? Two, just two quick thoughts. Number one, you sort of re-point you so. The NBA has come to this point where James Hardin is this powerful because they've built this entire league on its players. Whether it was Magic and Bird, whether it was Jordan, whether it was LeBron, the players have the final say here. And then regarding social justice. I think it's just I just a little bit of irony No major point here that Houston was the team that sort of set this all off with the Dera Mories

In support of Hong Kong tweet that he did a few years ago Circling back it's just ironic that now Houston is on the forefront of the social justice anti-Trump movement It's just just a little ironic that you sort of, that it's come to this. We're gonna find out how powerful he is because I don't think he's gonna work his way out of Houston. I don't think they'll turn it. Well, he's got, listen, the reality is,

and I don't wanna go too deep on NBA talk because we know our audience isn't exactly NBA. He's got two years or three years left on his contract. They don't have to do shit with him right now. You can say you're unhappy, show your ass up to work if you want your paycheck. If not, you're in breach of your company. But by the way, if this thing becomes what it's becoming, I'm asking for a trait which

Anthony Davis did wanting to leave the Pelicans, which is what Hardin's doing. And this is starting to become a movement. Why the hell would I have a team in a small market? So Giannis comes on and says, I want to be traded next season because they brought Drew Holiday and they don't want a championship with Middleton. He wants a trade now. You're stuck with a Middleton and Drew Holiday. Neither one of them is a, you know, a a star. The difference between Anthony Davis that he forces way out is he had an, uh, an expiring contract. So it's, they were going to lose him to for agency. You've got two and a half years to even worry about losing James

Hart and so my assumption is unless, uh, unless they actually can get something back from James Harden, I'm going to make prediction, I'm going to make a prediction. Watch for this happen in the next six months. James Harden fires his agent, hires Rich Paul clutch sports run by LeBron. He'll work his way out of Houston doing that back channeling it through the most powerful force of the NBA, which is LeBron James in his agency clutch sports. And if he wants to do that, he can do what the hell he wants to do at powerful force of the NBA, which is LeBron James in his agency clutch sports. That would be so.

If he wants to do that, really, he can do what the hell he wants to do at the end of the day. These players can do it. That's all they want to do. I can see that happening. I can see that happening. I can see Harden talking to

LeBron right now saying, Hey, what do you think I should do? I see that conversation taking place. But anyways, it is what it is. Look, if you watch it, it's if you enjoyed this last banter that we had the last 50 20 minutes hit that subscribe button on the alert button.

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Yesterday, Cuomo had a big exchange. Before you play it, I want to read this to them, but you can get ready for it. Here's what happened with New York. New York schools shut down indefinitely with new surge of cases. Let me read that one more time to you. New York schools shut down indefinitely

with new surge of cases. All students in New York public schools will transition to remote online learning beginning Thursday. Today, Mayor DeBlasio announced Wednesday. The COVID-19 test positive rate in the city had 3% over the past. We reached in the threshold that official said to determine whether schools should be closed.

Closed, he said, we must fight back the second wave of COVID-19. The Blasio said, Richard Caranza, the chancellor of New York City Department Education said in a tweet that it was a temporary closure. The mayor and I have been clear-eyed since the beginning that we needed to get students back into the classrooms as soon as it was safe and we carried the same urgency with us today as we announced this temporary closure. We will get students back in buildings as soon as we can safely New York City Public School System is the largest in the nation serving more than 1.1 million students according to the New York City Department of Education and this is what happened yesterday. Kai, press play.

according to the New York City Department of Education and this is what happened yesterday. Kai, press play. This is the city's decision. They have an agreement of 3%. Today you said, well, I might have to impose an orange zone and I might have to close the schools, which an orange zone does. So what's going on? Is the city still have the ability to close its schools?

Are you now taking control in saying that you have the power to make this decision? And for the millions of parents who want to know, are the schools going to open tomorrow in New York City? All right. First of all, let's try not to be obnoxious and offensive in your tone. Ha, ha, ha, ha.

Because you're 100% wrong. He sounds like Trump there, but. We announced the orange zone. That's the ironic part. Law over a month ago. I don't know if you were here or if you were paying attention. But that is eerily sounds like Trump here. The both on New York. It always said if by the state's numbers you hit 3 percent, the school's close. What's going on here is nothing that the law hasn't said for over a month. We then had to test out procedures. If you were paying attention, you would have known we closed

the schools in New York City two weeks ago. Remember when we did an orange zone and a red zone in Brooklyn and Queens and we closed the schools? Don't you remember that? Okay, so don't you? So what are you talking about? How what are you talking about? You're now going to override. We did it already. We're now going to override. We did it already. That's the law, an orange zone and a red zone. Follow the facts. I'm still confused. We're then you're confused.

I'm confused in that. I'm not telling you what you mean. The parents are still confused as well. The schools are confused. Oh, then that's confused. You're confused. No, I think parents are confused as well. Read the law and you won't be confused.

I'm coming. Go ahead. This question, are how long do you think this question are the schools gonna be open tomorrow? The schools are open by state law. They closed. Right after that, the lawsuit closed. New York City, how you knew that by the way? New York City, yeah.

Well, I don't really care what you, no, no, go back a little bit. Go back, you gotta hear the last seven seconds. Just go back right here. Oh, we will be able to tomorrow, that's the question. I hear what you know, no, go back a little bit. Go back. You got to hear the last seven seconds. Just go back right here. Oh, we will be able to more of that's the question. I think he's correct in the end asking that question. I don't think it's a no.

Well, I don't really care what you think. Here we go. Sums him up right there. You know, he wants to do to that reporter. He wants to sock that guy and deck him right in his shoulder. Yeah, that's what he's gets to that. That's what the guy's right. Oh, my God. right in the shoulder. So tell me though, I mean, what do you think?

What's going on in New York? I mean, the guy is clearly frustrated as hell. I mean, what do you feel with him? He's an asshole. I mean, I'm appalled by that video. I think he's Al Pacino. You know, here's the problem with Newsom and Cuomo. They think they're rock stars.

All right, they are so cocky, they're so out of control. They have so much power that they can get away with crap like this and what Newsom's doing. I can't stand what they're doing. I feel for the parents in New York City who now have to figure it out. Once again, what they're going to do with their kids. And let me just say this, kids have been robbed of a year of their life. It's been stolen from them. 60% of them, at least, will never be able to make up what they lost this past year. It is a crime. What he is doing going up there with the authority that he has and to be that cocky and that out of touch and that out of tune.

Did you hear the other big story about him yesterday? He got a pay raise. He got a huge pay raise. Look it up, Kai. Mario Cuomo got a huge... No, he's going to say he's going to turn it down, right? Yeah, right. It'll come back to him sideways like nine different ways.

But I'm appalled by that. He thinks he's an entertainer. He thinks he's Al Pacino leaning back like he's the godfather or something. It sickened me to see what these guys are doing. They have no repercussions whatsoever. So point counterpoint here that literally that's exactly what Trump does. So if you don't like what if you don't like the perception of people that hate Trump that thinks that's what he does. That is not different between his tone and his interaction with Trump. Trump has respect for reporters. Democratic.

You're going to tell you when you're wrong. Have you listened to a Trump press conference? Yes, respect for the reporters. He answers their questions. We are literally living in different worlds there. There's no, and I'm telling someone who's saying that his tone was wrong. Again, one of the things I'm able to do is call bullshit on both sides. The way that he handled that reporter is exactly what Trump does.

If you don't see that, then you're not listening. No, the fact that you might just be watching Ron America news or something like that that doesn't show the reality of it. The reality is that's exactly how Trump treats reporters. And if you don't believe me, I'm sure we can roll the tape on every action. I'm just going to be on the ladder of saying what you just said is wrong. That is not how Trump treats reporters.

He might hammer me out of control. Have you seen him interact? He answers questions. They badger the hell out of Trump for four years. Everyone you're going to find out how he got frustrated. One or two times, but that is not how Trump can't grow at all. It just so Trump is just a nice chill guy to the only defense that people that hate Trump have. You have to flip it and say, oh, see, the opposite of Trump is what I'm saying, which

is not what I'm saying. The point that you're missing right now, you're failing to understand is this is not an anti-Trump thing or a pro. Quomo. But the first direction you took the last guy, relax, what I'm saying is they both keyword both, Tom, you understand what that word means. They both treat reporters disrespectfully compared to that. But here's my point, since I know you have a,

where'd you go to med school and all, where'd you go again? Here we go. The guy, what can't you pass the emotion after sound smart? Here we go. Where, what do you think you should do keep everything open just not pay zero attention to COVID.

I'm asking you not to not to complain not to criticize to give a solution. It's not my job to give a solution. What a job to criticize what I can tell you. You're sure what my point is I like to listen to scientists. Okay. And if they're basically saying, hey, you know what else they're shutting down? Freaking Kansas, freaking North Dakota, Minnesota.

This isn't just a New York thing or a California. These leftist liberals, they're shutting everything down. They're robbing the kids of school. COVID cases have increased. They've been, there's a second wave coming. I know they were quote unquote, rounding the curve. I don't have kids. It's cold, weather's cold. a second wave coming. I know the record on quote rounding the curve. I don't have kids. It's cold. Weather's cold. Second wave is coming. Exactly. Colds are coming.

But colds are coming. But colds are coming. Go make your point, I'm curious. My point is, it's so easy to criticize the, the, and I'm being critical of his tone as well here. I'm not vouching like, I'm not vouching for Cuomo. Yeah. But it is clearly his frustration was, they've had guidelines in place.

If cases have gone from orange to red or whatever the protocol is, he's basically getting frustrated with the reporter, saying, yo bro, like this has been in place for weeks, two weeks, the reporter said no, three weeks. And he's like, well that's exactly what I just said. What are you talking about here? He's getting frustrated, cool, I'm cool with that,

but there's protocol in place. And if you reach a certain point and the medical authorities are like, hold on, freaking COVID's out of control, he's listening to the medical authorities here. So that's my point. So overall, his tone was a fucking asshole. Just like Trump is a fucking asshole to reporters.

So I'm calling it on both sides. But to say that only Cuomo's the asshole here and Trump has never disrespected a reporter is outlandish. As Trump not taking ridiculous tone. Yeah. He's called media, the enemy of the state is argued with reporters nonstop. Forget about his reaction. What I'm asking you now, what do you think about what New York is doing? What do you think about shutting down schools? indefinitely. What do you think about that? schools indefinitely? What do you think about that? They're doing the right thing with 3% that now is COVID shown 3% let's shut down the whole school. Is that the right thing to do?

I don't think that that school should be shut down indefinitely. Like nevermind. Definitely. Let me let me let me take it a different angle and I'll address everything you guys just said. Number one, their their style Cuomo the way he speaks versus the way Trump speaks. I think Trump is a little less, um, Stuart, I'm looking for. He's a little less condescending in interviews. I think Trump is a counter-puncher himself. His entire life has been a counter-puncher. But if you come in, you do get in over here with them.

He's very respectful. He'll go through the whole thing with you. And he gets hit up a million times more than Koma does. Koma doesn't get hit up. Okay. When Koma gets hit up, you just saw the way he reacted. Trump gets hit up every single flipping day, every second he's getting hit up. Not Koma.

Koma was a hero during coronavirus, the pandemic. And he was, he had the worst city and worst state out of everybody. He had the worst out of everybody. And he is a hero. They're treating him like a hero. Like this is a guy. Democrats are considered him 2024. You know, somebody that could potentially be a future president. He made me a few months ago. Fine. No, no, they are you going on record saying that Trump does not have contentious argument. Let me make my second part at point. What do Christie, Trump and Kuhmall have in common?

They're all from New York. They're all from Jersey, New York. Man, that's how they talk. That's how they are. I do business with people from New York because they tell me how it is. I don't mind doing business with them, but America doesn't know New York. Mike Pence doesn't talk like that. Thank you so much, Kristen, for that question.

Kamala, congratulations on being the first. So let me address the issue when it comes, Trump would never answer some like that. Neither would him. Right. Both tough guys from New York. I have no problem with that. I'm very comfortable with that.

Now let's talk about the school and stuff shutting down. Let's talk about that. Okay. So how many teenagers do you're dying from coronavirus? How many? Oh, no, actually, how many? Two. There was two in California. Come on.

Is it probably a pre-send? Probably a pre-send. Now, how many teenagers have we heard dying from flu? Now, how many people have we heard dying from obesity that ends up leading to heart attack and diabetes? How many? How many people die from heart attack? How many people die from their body not moving?

How come we're not talking like, for instance, yesterday you now were talking, you were exercising and you go into the gym. How many times you're working out right now? How many times you're working out right now, Kai? How many times you're working out right now? How many times you're working out a week? What do you do five days a week? Are you four there? Eric, are you five there? Right now I'm trying to catch up with homework, but usually four days a week. Four days. How many times you haven't done one last week? How many times you work out? How would you, by the way, you're how old? 39 and a half. Okay. How many times do you have a day once a week? How many times do you work out? How many do you, by the way? You're how old?

39 and a half. Okay. How many times a week you work out? Three, four days a week. Three, four days a week. To stay healthy. What does that mean? What does that mean?

Tell me what that means. In what respect? In what respect? What does it mean to stay healthy? Eat well, exercise. Why is exercise? Where are you going with this? I'm asking you.

What I'm asking you is why exercise? What's the big deal is exercise? Why exercise? Where are you going? What's your point? What I'm asking you is why exercise? What's the big deal about exercising? What's the big deal about moving your body? What's the big deal about doing anything would move in your body? Why do we move our body? If we don't move our body, what happens? It gets weaker. If it gets sloppy. And then what happens if we get fat and sloppy, what happens to our immune system? You get a higher risk for COVID. You get a high risk for sickness, period, not COVID. Your immune system gets weaker. This has got to be the dumbest, stupidest thing that people are doing, not realizing that if your body doesn't flip and move, you get sick.

Shutting down gyms is ruining your health. People got to exercise. The more you exercise, the healthier. You get what does this have to do with kids? Everything. Kids go to school, they move their bodies, they get in shape, they do all the sudden they're feeling better. This is good for them. What the kids are doing.

They got to be out there. Now you want to shut them down for what? So your point just to be clear is they should not shut down any schools ever. Zero at all. Zero at all. Now teachers who are above 60 years old, let them go home. Teachers who are 60 years old and up, let them go home.

Now I'm not talking about teachers being over 60 years old. Teachers who have issues with asthma, with certain issues like that, that's been documented. Not all of a sudden have asthma today. You know I'm talking about that, you have documentation. Hey, let's address them in a different way. What do you mean sending kids questions? It's a question.

Yeah, because I want to get, I want to work up. School, I'm just going to go, you know, rapid fire. You give me your thoughts real quick. Schools, 100% stay open, no matter what. Is that what you're saying? Kids need to be out there. Yes, we're not talking enough about the consequences of these guys. What about gyms?

gyms need to be open. All gyms. gyms need to be 100% open. Okay, bars. I don't care about bars. So bars do what? What do bars do though? Bars you hang out and you talk and you drink. Fine. I do bars. So bars do what? What do bars do though? Bars you hang out and you talk and you drink.

Fine. I do bars. I'm indifferent about. Stay open, 50%. 50% is fine with me. So 50% restaurants. Yeah. Restaurants, 75% 50% to 75.

I'm borrowing restaurant to me is 50 to 75%. Sports arenas, football fields, basketball courts, the whole thing. 50%. Okay, so you do have restrictions on certain things. Fine. For now, you're saying 100% certain thing. One should, for sure, not be open. Nothing.

Nothing. Nothing. Zero. No. This is a little bit worse than a flu. Little bit worse than a flu pad. You want to do the math? Yeah.

Let's do that. As far as how many people? 10 times a amount of people have died this year versus the flu. What age, though? I'm not talking about eight. Okay, listen, I just want to hear me out. That's an accurate state. 40,000 people die of the year of the flu. 250,000 people have died of Corona. Way more people die from the flu than 40,000. Pull this shit up right now, guy. But buddy, keep going with your point here. Here's my question for you. Is it, there's no point.

It's the question here. Yeah. So, is it the kids that if they do get COVID, cool, cool, they'll be fine, but they give it to their parent or they give it to their grandparent or their aunt uncle that they live with and then there's the ramifications of that. Like your dad comes and visits you once a month. Yep. Your kids go to school. They're fine. No worries about daily, you know, about Tico, no worries. God forbid. God forbid, they pass that along to an elder person that comes along. God forbid, they give that to your father. That's the concern. That's a point. That's not a point. That's a

question. Is there a concern of that that a kid gets sick, he gets the COVID, whatever, whatever, whatever? And they pass it along to an elder person in the family. Let me give you a complete different out with different point of it as well. What's the alternative for my 78 year old dad? Stay home by himself for the next two years. The hell kind of a life is that? You don't think a 78 year old is sitting there

thinking how many more years do I have left? You don't think a 78 year old sitting there saying, which would I rather have spent time with my grandkids or sit in home by myself looking at these damn pictures? What do you think of 70 selfish? Say I'm 78 years old. Say you're 78 years old. You got five grandkids. You got four grandkids. What are you going to do for Thanksgiving?

I want to say you, you're 78. You got five grandkids. Thanksgiving is coming up. Do you want to go to Thanksgiving, even with the risk of potentially getting coronavirus? What do you want to do at 78? I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm curious into what you're gonna do at 78. If you're 78 and you've got, I mean, look at you. I'm asking you. Okay. You're 78. It's 30, the 38 years from now, 39 years from now. You have five grandkids at Thanksgiving Christmas. You want to skip Christmas with that? Every Thanksgiving with

that my entire life. Yeah. And you're saying, hey, man, for this one Thanksgiving, you should consider maybe not traveling. You would want to see your grandkids. That's the emotional asking you. Yes. Don't tell me logic. You want to do? If I'm freaking 78 years old and I have health issues, that's the key thing.

Have health issues. My that's at 13 heart attacks. Okay. I'd be concerned about traveling and spending a lot of time. Would you, would you, would you rather be on shutdown for the next six, 12, 18 months and be in a room by yourself risk that loneliness at 78 years old and your brain is going a million miles and our overthinking everything? Or would you rather say, I'm going gonna tell my kids, please be responsible.

Please do certain things. When I come in, I don't wanna hug my dad and I will talk. When you come in, we don't hug. So you're saying, listen, show up, but don't come get me out of the house. We don't hug, he says, when you come in, I don't. Okay, so this is my point. No, it's not your point.

I'm asking you a question that you're not answering. Okay, so here we go, but we're getting something. I'm saying you're sad, we're getting somewhere. So you're gonna show up. I'm bringing it to you. I ask you, forget about what I'm saying. But you just said something that's important. But I'm telling you, you're saying your kids are not asking you.

I'm asking for your advice, your 78. Yeah. You got five grandkids. Yes. You don't see them every day because they live somewhere else because the parents decided to go somewhere else because your daughter married a guy who has a career in Jersey who's working at a DC, who's working at a Valleable, and he got a job there. They want to come to you, you want to go see them. You're

not going to go see your grandkids. Allow me to answer. Yes, please. Obviously, if I'm 70, freaking eight years old, 50 years from now, I would love to see my grandkids. No question. Okay. What's more concerned for you? Is it more the concern of getting coronavirus or the concern of you may never see your kids again because you're 70. The answer is it can be both. The answer is it can be both. I want to see my grandkids clearly, right?

I mean, who doesn't want to see their grandkids, but at the same time, there is something called the freaking pandemic going on. Sure. So as you just said, maybe your kids don't kill, give grandma, uh, uh, uh, grandpa of kids. You said yourself that maybe Dylan doesn't get the sleep in the same bed as his grandfather. Maybe like what rules have you put in place? He shows up. Does he wear a mask? Does he not wear a mask? I'm asking you. No, listen, let me give,

let me give one thing that coronavirus has done that I give the positive of coronavirus. What is done? Everyone's on the same action. Here's what coronavirus has done. What coronavirus has done is the following. Coronavirus has gotten me to pay more attention to cleanliness. Coronavirus has gotten me to pay closer attention to when the kids are sick, to not go lay down with Papa. Coronavirus has gotten me to be a little bit more careful

with my dad. When coronavirus first initially came, guess what I call my dad, I said that. And I told him, I said that, you're not leaving a house. So what are you talking about? I said, you're not leaving a house., I said that. And I told him, I said, that you're not leaving a house. So what are you talking about? I said, you're not leaving a house. So I'm gonna leave the house and go, I said, Dad, you're not leaving the house.

We'll bring you guys, I said this to my dad. I said, you're not, March 11th, March 12th. I said, you're not leaving a house. He says, I'm leaving the house. Mike, you don't tell my dad what to do. My dad's a very strong personality. That's, by the way, for the record, I love your dad.

I know you do, and he loves you too. He's your number one fan. All right, so, and, and, and, and, and he says, I'm not leaving the record, I love your day. I know you do. He loves you too. You're number one fan. And he says, I'm not leaving the house. I said, okay. I said, you're not leaving the house. You know what happened? I kept checking on him every day.

No, I'm here. Do you know two months later, he lied to me. Do you know you started working, but he didn't want to tell me. Really? He didn't want to tell me. So I caught him. And I called him. We got into it. You know what he finally said to me? What the hell you want me. Really? You didn't want to tell me. So I caught him and I called him. We got into it. You know what he finally said to me? What the hell you want me to do? Stay home?

Yeah. What do you want me to do? You want me to stay home? I have nothing to do. I have to do something. I totally hear you on that. He taught me. I don't know what it is to be 78 years old. You don't know what it is to be 78 years old. I only know what it is to be a 42 year old man in my situation. And I want to hear from a 78 year old. He says, I can't stay home. If I stay home, I get sick. I have to go out and do things. I get sick, like emotionally, mentally, right?

Sick because you're not creating anybody, the most bitter people in the world are those that don't create, the most bitter people are the ones that are sitting there doing nothing. If you ever find that, make a list of the most bitter people in the world are those that don't create, the most bitter people are the ones that are sitting there doing nothing. If you ever find that, make a list of the most bitter people in your life and write down what did they create lately? Nothing. If you don't create anything, you get bitter. People need to create things to be happy. He says, I need to go out and build something. Respect that. That's my dad, 78 years old.

So here's my question, because I'm sure we're going to have to move on a sec. What is your dad doing for Thanksgiving? And what rules are you going to put in place? He has a room for himself. Okay. And he has a room for himself. And he hangs out with the kids while he's there. When I come in, I don't kiss him on the cheek.

We always kiss on the cheek. And it's more fist bump. And hey, what's up? You know, we go in. He tells us what he wants to do. And he keeps doing a kiss on the cheek. And why are you doing fist bump? Because he's comfortable with it. He says, you know what? go in, he tells us what he wants to do. And he keeps knowing. And he keeps knowing that she can wire you doing fist bumps because he's comfortable with it.

He says, you know what, let's, let's, COVID, by the way, he coughed in a U-cuff. So both of you guys are skidding something. I'm getting sick. I need to go to quarantine. Yeah. You know, let me say this, three points. I'm going to make real quickly. Number one, the shutdowns are not about COVID.

Okay. Period and discussion. Number two, there's a certain percentage of people in this country that want to save everybody, that everything has to be safe, that there's no risk at all, and a lot of them are governors. And the third thing is the shutdowns we did in the spring didn't work. These aren't going to work either. Let's just crush some more businesses.

Let's just take more restaurants out, and their ability to support their family and even live. Let's just, let's make gym owners bear the brunt of this. How about a yoana spa or a yoana nail salon? Oh, you're not allowed to be in this country anymore and thrive and do anything. It's all a joke. And it goes back to Mr. Cuomo in his attitude. They want to control everything about everybody's lives for the sake of saving everyone.

And that's the bottom line. So your point is everything should be 100% open, everything. I'm not answering these questions. What are you talking about? These irrational questions. I'm asking you a question, Tom. Rational question. But you're not everything. Be 100% open. No, because I'm not arguing. I'm asking you any question. I'll answer it. You're like, duck all these questions. The question I'm asking you is very point blank, dude. Should everything be 100% open? I'm not a governor. I don't make these decisions. It's not to make I give a shut down at least 50%.

I don't set policy. I don't look at percentages of what needs to be shut down. I give you a broad picture perspective of reality of what's going on in this world for non naive people. I'm looking right at you, but I'm lookingïve people. But it's not my job. I'm looking right at you. I respect what you're saying. I really do.

But I'm asking you, generally, right here, looking at you, what should not be 100% right now? Again, this is, this is veering the podcast into a direction it doesn't need to go. That's not my, we just talked about it to talk about every single interest. You just said you give your opinion. So I'm not looking for scientific fact here.

But you just asked me for a fact. You asked me asking you in your opinion, what percentage of things should not be a hundred percent? I want to comment on the issues that we're talking about. We were talking about the issues, bro. The country's losing its mind. There's no state. So, so everything.

So by based on what you said, everything should be a hundred percent open. Again, these are not questions. I'm going to answer because it's what you mean. You go get, because you're trying to back me into a corner that I'm not even near. I'm not even near a corner. Tom, Tom, Tom, this is us talking here, buddy. Forget we're on a podcast, forget it.

Forget about the audience. Next subject. The audience loves you. I'm asking you, what should be not 100%? This is not. Listen, I'm going to help you out here. You can even just use his notes. Pat said, bars should be 50%, restaurant 75%. That's fine. Pat gave an answer. He didn't duck out of it. You can just say, I agree with Pat. I agree. Those should be the numbers. You can get out of this and just say I agree with that. Well, mother just said the shutdowns are exposing the people and the wrong seats love it government should not be moms

Meaning shouldn't be moms like hey, I'm gonna take care of you and protect you But let's transition from the stop at my point bottom line is yeah, we're here at work every single day Yeah, have I ever called in that? I'm in my basement today Pat you have not have I showed up every single freaking day I'm not I'm not leave here until 10 Pat. You have not. Have I showed up every single freaking day? Yeah, sure, but we're getting. I'm not leaving until 10 PM every single night. Sometimes midnight. Okay. Okay, I will say this church should be 50% open.

Okay, there we go. Tom just answered a question, ladies and gentlemen. So churches should be 50%. Is that what you just said? Churches need to be open. They're not open to California. But churches should be 50%. All right, let me let me.

There we go. So there's some rules and regulations in place. I like it. Tom, wait, I'm proud of you. By the way, I me let me there we go. So there's some rules and regulations in place. I like it Tom. Wait, I'm proud of you. By the way, I think you guys need to go have a drink together. Tom doesn't drink. I would love to drink. I'd like to get away.

So Tom has never had a drink. The one day on the pot. Tom, what do you drink? What do you talk? I haven't had a drink on the podcast. What do you drink? I like tequila and I like bourbon. Yeah, we had we had a one time we went to Chamberlain's

and we had that the the old fashioned. We had some old fashioned was phenomenal. Yeah, he'll we had that we had some old fashions was phenomenal Yeah, he'll have an old fashion and maybe you guys can hash it out. There's not a nice. I'm asking Tom a question And he's saying that he's the one to answer is everybody did he did answer These aren't there's aren't trick questions. Yeah, you think I'm trying to trick you but by the way You just answered the same question. I asked let's go on a softer topic before we go on a stronger topic here Okay, why don't you pull up what happened? So I decided to put two of my cards at an auction. Kai, I have two of my cards.

I was approached by Heritage auctions and they put my two cards on Heritage. This is one of them, the Wayne Gretzky PS810, his rookie card, 1979. The minimum reason if you want a bit for this right now, it's $575,000. It would end up costing you 690. That's the next bid. There's still 21 days left on this. The minimum reserve on this if you go lower to buy this card, go lower, lower, lower, lower, it's a million dollars.

The reserve is at a million dollars and people want that card. There's only two of them in the card. That's the holy grail of the hockey card world. I have no clue what it's going to sell for, but we will know by December 14. The next one is a top's card. There's only two of these. The next bid, the current bid is two 10.

The next bid is 220, with the 20% fee that Heritage Offer charges, it would be 264, the two cards, holy grill of hockey cards, on the market right now. Do you set the price? Because they're yours? They call me, they came and approached me.

A lot of guys wanted to set a call with Bruce McNullis-Ball, Wingrest, you know, the guy, they went on a spagginer together, him and he was a former owner of the Kings himself. And I started getting a lot of weird calls. And I bought this a couple years ago. I sent Teaclin to go pick it up and they went to PSA headquarters and they got the card in a brand new case and the guy needed cash. And I said, no problem, wire them some money and we got the card in a brand new case and the guy needed cash. And I said, no problem, wired them some money. And we got the cards and I didn't know

what is gonna happen with it. I was gonna hang on to it. But then Heritage came up to us, the owners, they came, we had a meeting here. They said, let us take the card and see what we can do with it. We'll offer a minimum out of million and 400,000. And we'll see what's gonna happen with this.

At this point, people are starting to realize how much money there are in collectibles. A Mac trout card just sold for what? $3.9 million. I spoke to the three owners who owned the Mickey Manel. If you go to 1952 tops, type in 1952 tops, in search, go to Google and type it. Don't leave this side. Yeah, 1952, in search. Go to Google and type it. Don't leave this side.

Yeah, 1952, Typen, Mickey Manel, PSA 10, go down. There's only three of them in the world. One of them doesn't want to sell. The other one is open to it. And the third one is asking me for $18 million to buy this card. Click on images, and we are actually talking right now to see if that's something I'm willing to do or now

I'm definitely not gonna go to 18 million, but PSA 10 right to click on the first one right here. That's right there. No, no right here right below it right below it forps right to click on that That's the card that is a that that was sold two years ago for $12 million That's an older price that they have on there with a The sole two years ago, ESPN reported $12 million. That is today probably a anywhere between $12 to an $80 million card. 1952. Is that a real autograph or is that just a... No, that's not a... That's the card. That's like the holy grail of cards. The Mickey Mantle? That is the number one. No, this is downlapse over a hundred spagna. Mickey Mantle. Mickey Mantle. They found that it was cut with scissors

on why the quality was so good. They said the perfect one was cut with scissors. So that's right. Now, probably still worth four million. But yeah, that's probably a $15 million card you're looking at. So you just buy that with your card. You buy this card for $15 million and you hang on to it for 20 years. You probably sell it for $15 million and 20 years.

So you'll make $35 million and 20 years. So you'll make 35 million in 20 years, you may make that money better in other places, but if you appreciate cards, holding onto that card is like, man, it's like Katherine Zitter Jones in that movie going and stealing the most expensive diamond in the world, do you remember that one movie? What was it?

It was Sean Connery. She's going through the whole thing and showing her body with the red things. That how was that movie? I don't know what was it called, that movie. That's what this is. This is the Holy Grill. So Heritage asked me if you want to go back to it. If you have any interest, you can go to Heritage auctions, type in Wayne Gretzky and if you want to make an offer to add this to your collectible, this is probably going to be a $10, $15, $20 million card and an X 10 to 20 years. So that's what we have there

with that. Now, for some of you guys that are traveling your business folks and you're going out to use your phones a lot, your iPhone on the other day, again, I went to a yard house the other day. And I was at yard house and I typically use yard house Wi-Fi for my iPad. And I went to use it and boom, I had my Express VPN on and they said,

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What do you think that's gonna go for? It's right now $600,000, 580, it's got 21 more days left. What do you think that's gonna go for? Some are saying it's gonna go in a, in a two and a half, three million. Some are saying it's gonna go one to one and a half million. What do you think that's gonna go for?

The question is, what do you think it's gonna go for? I have no idea. It's gonna go for North of three million because someone's going to be bored and they're going to drunk bit on that thing and it's going to go. I'm going to take something. He's going to drunk bit three million. I tell you what happened. Remember the Kobe Bryant floor thing that was silent, that was autographed.

If you want to go back on that picture. That was only 600,000, wasn't it? That was 630, but they said it was only going to sell for like four, five hundred thousand dollars. And I was sitting there bidding. It was three of us. Middle and night were bidding for it. And the next thing you know, you500,000. And I was sitting there bidding, it was three of us. Middle to the night were bidding for it. And the next thing you know,

and I was willing to go up to $600,000, but I wasn't willing to go to 700. And it sold for I think $650, $600,000. I was very annoyed when I lost that one. Yeah, $6.31 is what it sold for. So it's gonna be interesting. The mic truck, click on mic truck rookie card. 3.9 million Kai, go to Google, type in mic trout,

mic trout rookie card, 3.9 million, card, the, Kai is killing it with the spelling these days. I know you go 3.9 million, right there. Just click on the book. You got it Kai. Go to all, go to all. Yeah.

Right there, click on that. This just so three months ago by the way, for $3.9 million, see if they got the picture there or not. Go back up, okay, go back, you'll see the picture, click on, yeah, right there, robberport, go down a little bit, that's the picture. That card sold for $3.9 million. Wow, that's a young elix.

That card sold for $3.9 million. And by the way, back in 2018, it sold for $400,000. So it went from $400,000. Nothing changed. The same card in two years sold for $3.9 million. Right now, the right cards are very good investments. They're great.

If you get the right cards, I don't recommend buying anything that's just a regular card. I recommend buying Holy Grail. I prefer older cards more than I do new cards because new cards sometimes it can be a lot of reprints, but older cards, if you can get them and put them away, and if you have the money for it, it's gonna make you money no matter what long term.

I don't know anything about the card game, but whoever had that first, did they literally open it up in a package that they got at Fry's grocery store? It's like a winning lottery ticket, and then this thing gets circulated? That's it. I mean, it was four sale with a pack of they got it, fries grocery store, it's like a winning lottery ticket, and then this thing gets circulated. That's it. I mean, it was four sale with a pack of bubble gum too, right?

I mean, that's unbelievable. Oh, it's cool. The bubble gum. And so, what's, why is this valued so much? Because they only had so many at the time. Interesting. The key word with this, you said you, it said heritage auction.

Heritage auction. Okay, so you know, you know what happens, the second word is, a auction. Okay, so you know what happens, the second word, the action, what you're hoping for is that you're going to get bid, you're going to get bid, you're going to get, and then you're just going to have two or three people just still battling it out of the end. And they just, it becomes a pissing concept. Here's what you have to realize, though.

I don't know. The other guy that owned, there's only two of those cards in the world. One is me, one is the other guys, two of us. We both know each other. The other guy has no desire to sell it. Zero. He's not going to ever sell it. The other guy is me, one is the other guys, two of us. We both know each other. The other guy has no desire to sell it. Zero, he's not gonna ever sell it. The other guy is me, guy. For me, I'm not a hockey guy.

I'm an investment guy, and Wayne Gretzky's the goat. There's no one even comes close to what this guy did with his career. A card like this, you're not, if you ever get a guy that's some a card like this, and it's a good price, even if you pay a couple million for it, you're going to be able to hang on to it for a while. Be patient, you're going to make your money back because cars like this don't come around all the time. So there's going to be a few people that are going to want this car.

We'll find out who it's going to be. We'll announce that matter-fuck-win-the-Oction ends, I think in December 14, whatever the date is, we'll announce what it's all for. I have no idea what it's going to go for. But we'll see. Okay, let's talk about Amazon. Amazon just put the entire healthcare industry on notice with its latest push into pharmacy.

Here's who stands to win or lose through Amazon pharmacy. Customers can shop for drugs and get them shipped in a mail. Prime members can also receive discounts on the medication. It's part of Amazon's slow but steady entry into the US healthcare system, some healthcare companies like drug wholesaler stand to benefit as Amazon pushes deeper into healthcare while businesses like retail pharmacy stand to lose out as

more prescriptions go online, CVS, wall green, especially smaller, right A took hits to their stocks on Tuesday while the prime savings could very well drive some incredible volume to their shops, recalled that the prime discounts work in the brick and mortar pharmacies to the service puts Amazon in the brick and mortar pharmacies too. The service puts Amazon and direct competition with pharmacies that's online business has already been hurt. What are your thoughts? Well, you know, now I know I base those hated Trump so much because it really makes sense

to have people at home where they have to buy everything without leaving the house. It's unbelievable. I mean, this is brilliant. CVS's stock fell 8.5%. As soon as this was announced, Walgreens went down 10.3 and GoodRx went down 15%. It's a $4 trillion industry. Four trillion thing. Are old people gonna feel comfortable?

I mean, what's the percentage of old people that buy pharmaceuticals? It's probably pretty high. And every time I go to CVS or Walgreens, it seems like they like to be in there and touching and feeling it and talking to their pharmacists. It's just going to be another example of what Amazon wants, Amazon gets. And even if they get a, what, a third of that pie, that's a lot of money.

I mean, of a $4 trillion industry, it's unbelievable how strategic Amazon is and how they get what they want and how successful they are. Perfect segue to my point. They are strategic, they are aggressive and they are relentless. Matter of fact, Kai pulled this up. If you go to relentless.com, go to relentless.com. What comes up? Oh my God, it's Amazon.

Go to relentless.com. Amazon shows up. So just to put it in mind, put it in perspective of how aggressive and relentless Amazon is, no matter what sector, there you go. There's some proof. You go to Relentless.com, Amazon is there. They ain't stopping.

So if you had any questions of how big Amazon wants to get, they are the gorilla in the room and they want to be the biggest, baddest mofo gorilla in the history of any room. What are they going to get into next is a question. I mean, they're just looking at whatever is the biggest industry they want to get into it. And they're doing a similar thing with Apple as well because Amazon is what Apple is.

Apple is the phone you use, but Amazon is the store you go to. And by the way, remember this, no one buys stuff on Amazon on iPhone. Let me say that one more time. You don't buy stuff on Amazon's app because Amazon doesn't sell anything on their app. You know why they don't sell anything on their app? Because they don't want to pay the 30% to Apple. Everything you ever buy from Amazon,

it's from there online Amazon.com, not from their app. You cannot buy single product on Amazon's app. Not one product. Did anybody know that you know that? Explain that to me because if I go on my app, where does it, is your saying that it's bad? You cannot buy it. It'll take you straight to Amazon.com. You cannot buy a product on Amazon app to save the taxes.

What a brilliant thing he's got. You cannot buy Amazon books. When you want to buy an Amazon book, you have to go buy Amazon book on Amazon.com audible. And then it shows up on the Amazon app. So they figured out a way to avoid having to pay that 30%. Wow.

Yeah, you got to give them credit. They're geniuses. They are relentless. They are relentless. How does this bezos driving the ship as far as the strategy and the planning? Is he still the guy? I think he is the guy, but at that point, have you guys read the book? No rules, rules at Netflix?

Have you read that book? It is a ridiculous book, ridiculous book that is so unconventional. And I bet it's the kind of a book a boss doesn't want to give to their employees. You mean the CEO of Netflix wrote that book? Yes, he wrote it with a critic. He wrote it with a critic that he said, I want to bring current and they went and interviewed former employees who hated Netflix and loved Netflix and they tell it all. Every story, good bad ugly, they tell it.

And one thing you notice when Reed Hastings talks about how he manages his team is it's at a point right now where you simply pick a great team and they go out and get the job done and you kind of are monitoring it and some of the bigger decisions run through you. One of his main guys that was going and picking up the shows, he is not a co-seo, Ted Surrender is not a co-seo, they just announced him, I think July or something like they became the co-seo Netflix.

So, companies that size, Amazon, listen, you're doing a trillion, two trillion dollars a year. When you're doing a couple trillion, when you're doing the kind of business that they're two trillion dollar company. When you're doing as much business as they're doing, you're pretty much a small country. Yeah. You're a country.

You're no longer a business. You are a country, which means you have governors, you have senators, you have businessmen, you have a lot of different people that help run the decisions. But the big one always comes through you. So. And what was the news, speaking of how big and bad they want to get? There was news a few weeks ago that they're considering looking into buying CNN, something like that.

Yes, it's a brilliant move, by the way. Somebody asked me, would you buy CNN? I said in a heartbeat, I would buy CNN. See if you can get your hands on CNN, it's a brilliant move. Look what happened to Fox. Look what happened to Fox. Fox is no longer a far right wing. Fox is no longer right wing.

Fox is in the middle today Foxes Fox was the first that came out with Arizona before anybody else. Yeah, you know, no Fox news came out and said, you know, Biden won Arizona and Trump and all the people were pissed off saying, why are you reporting Foxes no longer what people thought Fox was pre, you know, 2018, 2017. That's the Fox viewers going over to true. Other stations. They are. Yeah, and you know, you're a big scene, but do you, um, no, you're, you're right. I mean, their viewership has gone down drastically. And I think that's a, that's a, like a litmus test for, you know, politically, when you get

too involved and you are not flexible whatsoever in business, in politics, in media, there will be repercussions down the line in Fox a senior right now. Yes, they are. They're definitely seeing it. Okay. Next topic, Bitcoin approaching its all time high values over the past few days have fluctuated between 16,000, 560 and 18,000, 460. For start on common, for wide fluctuations to occur with the value of Bitcoin having gain nearly 70% this quarter at the time of publication, one Bitcoin is worth $17,000, $14,000. The all-time high, meanwhile, was recorded December 17, 2017. As of the morning of Wednesday, November 18

prices on the digital currency went to $18,000, just a few hundred dollars short of the all-time high, which is $19,000, $7,80,000. If you own Bitcoin, let us know you own Bitcoin, and if you own Bitcoin, let us know you own Bitcoin. And if you own Bitcoin, you're probably excited right now. So why do you think Bitcoin is getting close to its all time high? So do you own any Bitcoin? Are you still in Bitcoin?

You sold. I sold. I don't know. I don't even know anything about it. To be honest with you. I own some Bitcoin. Back in, I don't know, 2017, I threw down 25 Gs on Bitcoin, just, you know, buy and hold strategy. So now, you know, when it plummeted over the last few years, like,

I wasn't going to sell, I didn't need the cash. I'm good. So I just sat and let it see how it played out. And I, you know, I'm happy I did. We'll see where it goes. Now, there's some people that say that Bitcoin's going to go down to zero and crash, and there's some people that think it's going to go up to $100,000. But what you do know and investing, if you believe in the asset class, you buy and you hold long-term. Where's your $25,000 app now? In the 40 something range.

Okay. So three years, you kept it and went all the way down to probably to $8,000, but you didn't need it. Exactly. Exactly. Good for you for having a patience of buying whole. But that's the whole point with investing. If you're trying to get in and get out and get rich quick, like that's, you shouldn't be an investor, be a J-Trader, just go to Vegas and gamble.

But if you believe in the asset, I don't necessarily believe in Bitcoin or any of these little bit other things. I do believe that cryptocurrency and blockchain is a real thing. I don't think that it's nonsense or BS. There are some legitimate stuff. And as we have seen with our good friend, Robert Kiyosaki, who came on recently as their printing more money and hyperinflation and just printing money left and right, What's the term that I'm the quantity that quantity of easing? There we go. And if there's so much money that they're putting out there, then you put your money into

a little safe harbors. He said he's a big fan of silver and gold and Bitcoin. So interesting perspective. So think about it this way. When products such as Bitcoin, gold, you know, do well, precious metals do well. What does it tell you? People are afraid. People are afraid.

When products like Bitcoin and gold do well, people are afraid. When products like gold and precious metals do well, that means we are printing way too much money. If Biden becomes president and is no longer president, like he becomes president, gold is gonna go up because they're gonna keep printing money with stimulus over and over and over again. I don't think they're going to get away with the COVID stuff anytime soon. The moment they stop printing money

and the economy is back open and people are working, you're going to see the price of Bitcoin, you're going to see the price of gold go down. The moment that takes place right now people are afraid and Bitcoin is a method of protecting yourself against anything that's going to happen with the manipulation. I mean, I've had some of these guys on a Bitcoin world on and I don't see it slowing down anytime soon. I don't see Bitcoin slowing down anytime soon. Um, question. If you could time Bitcoin, if you could time Bitcoin on the moment things open back up, Bitcoin will go down. That's when you would sell it would. So question for you.

Now we've seen Moderna, we've seen Pfizer 90% 94.5 95, whether that's a cat and mouse game or actually, I just hope that it's real. You talked about another stimulus plan. I think there will be another stimulus plan. That's gold stimulus is going to help gold. Precious metals and gold is going to do well. The more money we put it, but you said that there might be more, more stimulus, but the more they print, the more gold in the law.

So in my opinion, there'd be one more stimulus. And then hopefully there's a vaccine. Well, the places like New York and California react the way they do to COVID and keep schools shut down. We're going to need more than one stimulus. So let's just say there's two stimulus. Let's say a Biden's going to do two of them.

One in January and let's just say he does one in July. Okay, one in June. If it passes, let's two stimulus. Let's say a Biden's gonna do two of them. One in January, and let's just say he does one in July. Okay, one in June. If it passes, let's just say no, but he can still do an 800 million dollar one. 800 billion is still plenty of money, by the way. If you print 800 billion. These days, 800 billion is nothing. Still good.

Let's talk in trillion dollars. You're talking about a high roller like you put 25,000 in Bitcoin, man. That your 800 billion is a lot of money. Yeah, clearly, I know. I'm joking here. But one thing to my friends out there who are, I think we would be fair to say we have a lot of Bitcoin

enthusiasts that probably follow our channel, would you say? Yes. Okay, here's my advice to my friends out there. I put 5% of my asset into Bitcoin. Smart for me. 5%. There's so many people I talk to when I say, oh, you have Bitcoin. Hell yeah, I got Bitcoin.

Oh, you have anything in the stock market? No way. Do you have anything? S&P index fund? Oh, no, I don't have anything with that. Yeah. You have any bonds? No, nothing.

They're just 100% Bitcoin. That is a recipe for disaster. So just quote me on that. So if you have some Bitcoin core respect, do not let that be your only investment. You could be in very murky waters, long term, if that's all you have. Mercury waters. What are the twins from Facebook with the Winkle loss? Are those still the Winkle boss?

Oh, yeah. All in. Yeah. They were big. They, they, what would they, Ethereum? Was that their thing? I'm sure our audience, let us hear thoughts. Yeah. They were big. What would they, Ethereum? Was that their thing? I'm sure our audience let us hear thoughts on Bitcoin. Nate Wotring just gave five dollars. A Bitcoin isn't just money. Bitcoin is entire financial industry and technology. Good mother back at it again.

Kamala doesn't belong in any of the seats. She needs to go adopt some children and possibly get some cash. He's probably a big Biden fan. Cryptocurrency Hex did 200x return this year alone. Cryptocurrency Hex, the 200x return this year along cryptocurrency Hex did somebody give five bucks there. See what the name was I can give a shout out to Manuel. So, Pat, we'll see what's gonna happen with cryptocurrency. Do you wanna talk about my daughter in the next?

No, here's what I'd like to talk about if you don't mind. Today's Thursday, what's one week from now? Thanksgiving? That's Thanksgiving, is your dad come into town? Yeah, he is. That's a big thing. What are you doing for Thanksgiving?

We're going to have a bunch of people over. We are. Yeah. Well, when I say we are, you are. Well, matter of fact, we're going to have probably 50 people over. Okay. And we're going to social distance six feet from each other at the house. Good.

And some are going to sit in the backyard, some in the garage, some second floor, some outside of the house. Well, you know where I'll be. And in your basement, and you don't even have a basement But what are you reading the song? I would love to know of course leading the song. We oh what did we fall down? Is it we fall down? I fall down I thought you're gonna I thought you're gonna say Holy, holy, I thought you're going to go with Jolene, Jolene, that's Dalie Park, that's Dalie. Call back. What else are we doing here on value tame it though on Black Friday? That's something that I think we should maybe

bring up. Oh, you know what? Yeah, we are doing Black Friday. Very excited, very excited. Adam spearheading this, Adam came and changed the game with the store. We have, why don't you tell us about some. No, you got a deed of stuff. You got Nike. We got some new, we're launching the new, by you, you tell me, Merced or very, very hard on it. Very big deal. I mean, you've gone a couple different ads. You've been telling you that value tanners have been asking you for a long time. We've been getting a new store. We've been getting a new store, but we got some sick. We got some sick stuff coming out. Let's hear about what we got going on. Some of these about some of these things. Yeah, it's going to be big sales.

50% off sale. 50% off sale. It's going to be pretty sick. We're pretty much not making money. The whole purpose is go sport the vitamin gear and some new stuff that you got. It's not about us making money. We want guys to wear it. And it's going to be some real cool gear.

Adam, what side do they need to go on to stay updated with the Black Friday deal that's coming out? How do people get connected to that? That's a good question. We can find that out so we can get the links for people. No, meanwhile, let's go to the next topic with Moderna while you find that link. We'll put it up. I know some people want to know.

Oh, you put out already in the description. Where is it? In the description. We go. We go. We go. We go forward slash. Yeah.

If you can go to that, you'll see some of the stuff. We're going to be calling people who buy. Yes. You're going to be FaceTiming some. We got a whole plan going on. We got a whole people that place the big low-runners, people who place the big one.

Some people are asking me FaceTiming them. Yep. Showing off some of the stuff. And we're going to share the pictures. We got speakers. We got Bluetooth, wireless. It's not just shirts. Look, the best part is when I, when people

send me videos and saying, Hey, Pat, look, I'm in Germany. I ran into another Vayetaner in Warren, Vayetaner shirt. Hey, Pat, I'm in Japan. I ran into another, it's the best story. Well, it's the best story. And you got to have good gear. Yeah.

Because you want people to want it. We got some real cool gear. Because when you put on that, I mean, I've seen you wear your Vayetaner shirts and I am an entrepreneur. Yeah. Right? Obviously, I've been indoctrinated over the last six months. But when you put that shirt on, like, what do you feel?

What are the people going to feel when you rock that? When you rock that, the reason why Marriott got the Vite him a logo tattooed on his hand on his arm straight up is because that's got a story behind it where people will realize very soon. When you wear that, you're representing capitalism, entrepreneurship, free thinkers, somebody that can't be bullied. When you wear that logo, you're representing something. People know what that logo stands for. It's very simple.

You're independent, you're hard worker, you believe in capitalism, you believe in creativity, you believe in innovation, and we want more people sporting that who believe in that concept. And there's a lot of them right now worldwide who do. So again, I can't wait for that once we launch it. Devon himself asked can you do some. He gave a hundred dollars. Signed Merch. He can do some sign merch. Hell no, we're gonna be doing some sign merch. Why don't we think about some sign merch? Yes, gave $100.00. Signed Merch some sign Merch. How do we think about some sign Merch? Yes. That's a great idea.

About some sign Merch. That's a great idea. Make a note of it so we can do some like that. Stay to Kai, were you going to say that? Yeah. And that's also the reason why they need to go sign up and register with the link because they'll also be limited merch. So to make sure they get the notification, one thing Ross Ross did say we're not going to have as much as people want so if they don't order it's done because a lot of it's going to be limited supply with sizes

correct so do they need to go to VT post VT store dot com forward slash VT no VT store dot com that's it VT store dot com can you put the link up so we can see what it looks like just put it up so we can see what it looks like? Just put it up so we can see it. VT stores. VT stores.com. Why don't you just put it up so we can all see it. .com. No, not like that, buddy. .com.

Can you use Bitcoin? To buy? That's actually a good go up. Go up. Yeah, register. Yeah, and then they'll be, you're going to get a lot of new. First to get it. By the way, can we change that shirt?

Because that's, we're not even selling that shirt. It's gonna be a whole different gear being sold there. Can you make sure that's changed ASAP so people see it? But go subscribe. There you'll be on the limited list of people that will send a merch to because we kind of got to get an idea on how many people we have on that. Okay.

Kai, what are you gonna say bud? Oh, there you go, good. Yeah, so it's like some sick, there you go. Just updated, yes. Some real sick gear that we have. What is this? That's a Bluetooth speaker. Oh, cool.

Yeah, you literally set it up, you play the music, and it's got to speak. Dude, it's a valetimium Bluetooth speaker. Sounds good. They do, they do. One thing I don't see on there is the valetimium backpack, which is insane. That one is really sick.

Mario does not like free stuff, but he took the water bottle and the backpack. You love that. I paid for it. He did not pay shit for that. We got 17 minutes. I want to go through a couple of the topics. So here we go. Moderna would have 94.5% efficacy vaccine coming out. Amid breaking reports, Monday, morning, the Moderna's coronavirus vaccine candidate reached 94.5% efficacy vaccine coming out, Amid Breaking Reports Monday morning, the Moderna's Coronavirus vaccine candidate

reached 94.5% efficacy rate. According to a company announcement, many are comparing the vaccine to Pfizer candidate, announced just last Monday, 90%. The founder, the founder, one of the things I love is the fact that a lot of people this past week, they weren't paying attention to what's going on with Armenia. People are just kind of like glossing over it.

But what people don't know is, Moderna's founder is Armenian, Nubar Afayan. Founder of the flagship pioneering VC is also the board member of Moderna, not CEO board member, but his company helped found Moderna right after Moderna announced 94.5% efficacy rate. You know what Pfizer did the next minute? They said, oh, we're no longer 90%. We're now 95%. So what are your thoughts on this? I don't like it.

I don't find it funny. I'm offended by it. I have a problem with it, to be honest with you, because right now we're talking about shutting down the entire country and all the ramifications that go with that. The silver bullet is this vaccine that's supposed to help. Let's take a little bit more seriously. Okay. It sounds like a little bit more seriously. Okay, it sounds like a couple elementary kids arguing whose dad is tougher.

I mean, give me a break. I mean, when you come out a day after Moderna says they're 94.5 and say, oh, by the way, we're 95 just so they can sound a little bit better. I don't like it. I wish there was more people that were offended by it like me. This is the most important thing in the country right now to get us back to normal. Have some respect for the vaccine. That's all I'm telling you, you two rival drug companies.

By the way, how are they competing with each other? I mean, am I going to Amazon.com now to buy my vaccine and I will be able to choose between Pfizer and Moderna. Is it a marketing battle between these two? How about we just give some respect to Donald Trump through warp speed, operation warp speed that is getting this thing done so quickly. So we can hopefully get this country back to normal. Wow.

Kudos to both of these companies. I mean, I'm not, I don't, I don't, you're assuming that there's some fun and games going on here and then I'm at 94.5, I'm at 95, I'm at 95, I'm not 95 optics, man. I don't like you saying. I'm hoping they're both at I'm at 95, I'm at 95, I'm not going to be at optics man, I don't like you saying. I'm hoping they're both at freaking 100%. No, but for some reason, you said 90 a week ago, then Moderna says 94.5, then a minute later you say, oh, we're at 95 now.

Maybe they're improving. No, maybe Pfizer's watching too much of boogie nights with Dirk Diggler and one guy said, what do you bench? 180, what do you bench? 185, what do you squat to 20, what do you bench? 185? What do you squat to 20? What do you squat to? I thought you were going someplace else.

No, no, no, no, no, no. Pfizer's watching way too much bogey nights. I'm just hoping that there, that this isn't an elementary game and there's actually, I assume again, some science behind this and that they actually are 95% because they probably had to fucking show the 95% results are not just saying it. So we'll see if they actually have the results. We'll see. I hope for everyone's sake, they are both at 100% in the next week or two or a month, whatever it comes down to. I'm hoping by the end of the year, we do have a vaccine.

Well, nothing is ready to get out 100% body. They're not going to get to 100% just so you know that. But what can they get to 99? That's like yesterday when you said 100% Trump's not going to win. Okay. Trump's done. Trump's done. In, by the way, what did he say? He said 100% Trump doesn't stand a chance, right? Is it 99%? Then I said, I'm not betting on it. Do you know how much money people owe me that haven't paid me yet? Let me ask you. Let me ask you. Let me ask you a question. I'm over about 10. I got a question. Tom was at 20. I said I'm over it. I got a question. Tom was at 28%.

I said 35%. So I mean, so Tom's living in fantasy land over here. You think Tom is still going to be the president? We had a conversation. The conversation was, conversation was, what are the chances of, you know, Sydney Powell, Rudy Giuliani, the attorney to be able to prove that Trump is still a attorney, is still his president, right? A time went from what?

28% to what? 33. 33%. What is mine? You've been sticking it five percent this time. I've had five, but what's yours? I'm at 0.00%. So you're zero.

So watch this. So I, yes, did it offer to bet. I said, if you're 100% that he's not going to, why don't we make a bet? Yeah, 10,200 dollars. No, that's not. I lose it. 10,000 to one dollar. Let's do 10,200 dollars.

That means if you're 100%, I don't need the hundred bucks. That's bad, bro. But by the way, let me ask you this. Let's drop us out. You want 100, 10 G's coming up. How about 100 pounds? Hey, my damn money and my barbecue. How long, you're in there?

Wait a minute. How about 100,000? No, bad. barbecue I'm in it. Wait a minute. How about a hundred thousand? No, no, no, okay. So let me ask you a different bet. Here's the other bet for you. Yeah. Okay.

What are the chances of you, Adam? Nothing wrong with that. What are the chances of you kissing a man one day? Okay. Is Mario included in this or no? He is. If you say, is Mario's in it?

What's the chances? Honestly, less than zero percent. Is it, okay. Are you willing to bet on it? How much you bet? You will, you will. I'm asking a question. I'm asking a question.

Do you understand what I'm saying to you? How much do you bench? I'm asking a question. He's a, what do you bench? Do you see what he's doing? Do you understand what just happened here? So he says, he says 100%, he said 100%. So you're willing to bet there's no way for the rest of your life

You're ever gonna kiss a grown man in the lips again. Where's Mario? I'm good. I like ladies. I'm so fun. Even though I'm a soy boy. I do like you are so funny, but what do you bench though Pat? I have no idea. I think you probably bench three plates right now. What is that number three three or five or three 15 you how much? three plates right now. What is that number three three or five or three 15 you how much three two 25 plus 93 three 15 three 15. Yeah, I could bench three 16. I believe you. That makes sense. You watch a lot of boogie nights. Yeah, you watch a lot of boogie nights. Not for the bench pressing though. If I watch you for other things, remember one thing about this vaccine. It's not one shot. You just don't go get the shot and you're done. Yeah're done. Yeah. It's two shots. It's two shots that we got. By the way, you know what I forgot to do? So I got all these gifts for Matt. It was a sport day. October 34. I got

them on the calendar bottle. I got them all these cigars. I was supposed to give it to him when he was here. Totally forgot. The cigars are sitting over here. Matt, if you're watching this, buddy, I got to send you a gift. I got you a gift. And I haven't given it to you. It's been sitting here for a couple weeks more. You can make sure Z sends those gifts to bottle and the cigars over to to to mat because it's Jennifer Brotted and just remember she remembers to send that over again, mat man. I'll totally forgot to do that with Matt, but we'll do it. Okay. So let's see what we got last. You want to go Airbnb? I don't know. We can touch it real quickly. You want to go for it. Why't know. We can touch it real quickly.

You want to go for it. Why don't you lead it with Airbnb? Go ahead. Okay. So they're going public. They have an IPO coming up. And the revenue has dropped 72% up up until June. The last filing.

The revenue is down 72%. This IPO is going to have them valued at 30 B, 30 billion. You know what? I don't like Airbnb. I don't like the idea of going into somebody else's house. I think it's weird. I think it's creepy. If you dig a little bit deeper on this story, one of the reasons they're going to the IPO is because they had promised a lot of their executives their stock options and they're going to expire at the end of the year or six months or whatever. So that's kind of leading the way. So some of these initial

guys that have worked for AB and B can get out and make their money. Same thing. And plus, they've been borrowing a ton of money lately just to keep afloat. I think it's a bad business model. I don't think going forward people want to stay in other people's houses.

I've looked at Airbnb online. I don't like it. I mean, you look at it these rooms are creepy. I mean, it makes no sense. Have you ever stayed in Airbnb? Oh, I think I have one time. I have one time. It wasn't a great experience.

I prefer hotels, nice hotels, by the way. And here's my last thought on this. I don't take it from here. No, you were killing it. You're gonna say something or no. I think I got distracted. I was thinking about something else. Oh yeah, here's my last thought.

I mean, it makes you think that these IPOs are just rigged for the investment bankers and the people that have access to get in on it to make money. It's not so much that they think this is a huge play for the future, period. Yeah, I've used Airbnb. I've done it in London. I've done it in Paris. I've done it in Paris, I've done it in Rome, I've done it in Amsterdam,

I've done it in New York. No, no, we're asking where you've stayed at. Not who you've done aware. Hey! When you said you've done it in all these places. I've done it in all these places. I've done it in all these places. I've done it in all these places.

Well, that's part of you. Have you used Airbnb before? Yeah, well, yeah. Hello. Okay, got it. Yes, I've stayed in Airbnb. This is called, some of us English is literal. You know, we think when you say,

then it is something else. Let me tell you something. Adam Braggin about, Mario Adam's bragging about every single time he has to brag about the women in his life. There's my boyfriend, Mario. He would kiss Mario. He just said it specific.

I said, I wouldn't not put money on that. The guy's very enticing. But I'll give you an example. I mean, we, obviously, I know Tom is not a fan of Airbnb, but there's millions of millions of people who are using Airbnb. I'll give you a case example. We know we're a shout out to the bigs.biz doc

who used to do case examples. I went to Amsterdam. I was with a girlfriend of mine at the time. And a buddy of mine is like, I'm getting a hotel. It was 400 bucks a night for a very decent hotel. Very just decent hotel. You know, the shoe box. I was with me and my girl for like 200 bucks a night.

We had a sick apartment in Amsterdam, sick. Half the price, too bad room, ridiculous spot. There was nothing creepy going on. It was like, it was just a dope spot. So if you can save money and stay in a better spot, there was nothing creepy going on. It was like, it was just a dope spot. So if you can save money and stay in a better spot, a lot of this isn't like five years ago or just like, you know, I don't know what's got, like they have made service that come in in there.

There's people who do this very professionally. So you can, what happens is like just like an Amazon, you can see this is a five star rating. This is a four and a half star. This is a two star, all right, if it's a two star, I ain't staying there. But if it has a four star, four and a half, five star rating, the place is sick. Do they sick and you can get it for half the price of what a hotel. I mean, here's my biggest problem with it. You know, you get on a plane right now and you

get these people that take out their wet wipes and they wipe everything down, you know, the tray table, the whole thing. How are people feeling comfortable going into somebody's house now in COVID? I think it's a terrible idea for the IPO for this country, just for this company. It just makes me think that's what it's done. But is it isn't that the exact same thing of being in a hotel room? Like, there's multiple, multiple, multiple people being in a hotel room. Much different. They cleaning staffs in the hotel. But they, my point is they do have cleaning staff at Airbnb's.

I know, but there's, but it's so many people that can go on Airbnb and have their house rented out, right? There's only one person at a time in a hotel. You can have dozens and different random people. If you're going to hotel that hotels, you can have literally a hundred different people staying in a hotel in that same bed in a given month. But an Airbnb, a proper cleaning in between each one.

You don't know. You're not listening. They have made service and they have cleaning services that come in and clean the Airbnb's. And this is why they have ratings, just like you go on a hotel, like I'm a big fan of hotels.com. You go on hotels.com. You can see, all right, I'm going to get this hotel.

Oh, this is a five star hotel. Sick. I get a good deal. Oh, there's a two star hotel. I'm out. I'm not staying there. So Airbnb has seen what the hotel industry has done. They've stepped their game up. This is clearly why people, millions of people all across the world embrace Airbnb. I think Airbnb is here to stay.

Yeah. So you guys can hash it out on what you want to stay when we travel next time, but Airbnb time won't be staying. You're going to be sleeping in a hotel bed that literally a thousand hours. I'm not going to hold a show on the comfortable with Airbnb or no. Are you guys on the same page with that? No, she's very comfortable with a luxury hotel. Okay. Yeah. So she's, you guys are on the same page.

Tom's comfortable with what Sean says. We're staying. Tom says, Tom says, we're staying there. Well, that one, it comes to travel. I call the shots there. Oh, that's very good. That's respectful. Okay.

So Airbnb brought in $2.5 billion in revenue in the first nine, nine months of the year, this year, down from $3.7 billion last year. So they're down $1.5 billion dollars in revenue in the first nine months of the year, this year, down from 3.7 billion last year. So they're down 1.2 billion, they took a hit, it's net loss more than double during the period to 6.97, net loss, net loss 6.97, and they're going at a valuation of what, 30 billion dollars, you're talking about 10 times their top line revenue. 12 times their top line revenue.

Not even 12 times their net profit. They're not even profiting. And they're going out of $30 billion valuation market. But this tells you the public market right now is interesting. When people are going out there and from the June 30th in a three month period, their revenue's dropped 72%. So the market apparently is saying, look, we don't care if you're not making any money or not,

we're still willing to value this thing at $30 billion. And if they can get away with that and do it, look, more power to them. If they're going to get away, people are willing to buy their shares at a price like that. More power to them. I just think right now, I don't see that business model doing too well anytime soon, but again,

we'll see what's gonna take place with Airbnb and their numbers there. And it's actually during a pandemic, places, things like, I mean, the hotels are getting crushed. It's not like, they're getting, they're getting camera. Is that like the airline industry is doing well? None of these industries are doing well right now. By the way, you mentioned, you mentioned BISDoc and Amsterdam.

BISDoc probably knows more about the products that people use freely and Amsterdam than anybody you've ever met in your life. You could do case study on weed like no other. From the professor standpoint, shout out to our buddy there with Dan Stoff. His math was off in Pennsylvania, but we'll cut him off.

He's like, there's one. His math wasn't off on Pennsylvania. Something happened that night when we went to sleep. We don't know what happened that night. They called over. It's over. It wasn't off on Pennsylvania. Something happened that night when we went to sleep. We don't know what happened that night. They called counting the votes. We don't know what happened that night. We don't know what happened that night.

Something happened that counted. They counted. They counted. It was the first day counted. It was on one side. Apparently, 100% of the votes that counted was on one side. Yeah. But we will find out here soon.

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