PBD Podcast - Diddy A Fed, The Rock's Endorsement, Owens vs Shapiro Debate w/ Jesse Watters | PBD Podcast | Ep 391

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Starting point is 00:01:22 Due to the recent scare of the earthquake that took place in New York, I got a text in the middle of the night saying Jesse Waters was afraid, so he ran off to Florida and he says, you guys mind if we do a podcast together? So obviously, what was it, 4.7, 4.9 in New York, that's a lot. It felt like a 10. It felt like a 10. I'm an East Coast boy, that was a lot. Yes, you're not used to it.

Starting point is 00:01:46 But we're from West Coast, so we're used to it. That's like a little bit of a flirt, you know, the earth is doing with you. But the man has got his second book out, both number one New York Times bestsellers, Get It Together, Trouble and Tales from the liberal fringe. And by the way, right before us getting started, he just told us he's never done a podcast before. And this may even be his first podcast, definitely one that's two hours. But with that being said, Jesse, it's great to have you on the podcast.

Starting point is 00:02:14 Thanks so much for having me. The only reason I'm doing this is because you are, and I never like to flatter people. You are one of the best guests on Jesse Waters' Primetime because you're prepared, you have an unpredictable commentary, and you have a lot of energy. So I'm only doing this as a quid pro quo, so you come on my show. I got it. So this is how you negotiate. I like that right off the bat.

Starting point is 00:02:37 You got to come back when we're asking. But no, it's great to have you on. Obviously we've watched you for many years from the, you know, the water's world and all this stuff, and you working with O'Reilly and working your way up and now having the main show within Fox. Congratulations to you for having that. It shows what happens when you stick around and you do your part. Eventually, big opportunities come your way.

Starting point is 00:02:58 I have not been fired. I'm very good at that. Okay, so here's what we're going to do today. We're going to do a couple things. We got a lot of stories to go through that I want to get your thoughts on because you've been on many of these stories. Of course, we'll talk about the book as well. And FYI, for everybody that hasn't yet ordered a book, New York Times Best Seller, number

Starting point is 00:03:16 one, the link will be below. Right there you see it, Rob. If you can put it in the description and the comment section so people can place the order right off the bat. But here's some of the stories that we got. Number one, there's a video that was circulating yesterday. Some of you guys, when I play it for you, I have to tell you to close your eyes. It's like, not earmuffs, it's eye-muffs, right?

Starting point is 00:03:36 Because your kids can't even watch this video. There's this public defendant walking around with a couple balloons. If you haven't seen it, wait, I don't even want to spoil it for you. We'll show it to you here in a minute. Diddy is just, it gets worse day after day. It's new stories every single time. New story came out. Diddy, former bodyguard, claims Music Mogul had tapes of politicians and princes.

Starting point is 00:03:59 I think you also responded to that a couple days ago. We got a few other stories about that that we'll get into. There's a story that came out. Jesse Waters warns of dark and dangerous chapter in the US. Says deep states preparing for war, but I want to kind of challenge you on that because according to New York Times, it turns out the deep state is actually kind of awesome. So where do you get your facts from? It's a little bit of a-

Starting point is 00:04:23 Yes. Anthony Blinken says Ukraine will become a member of NATO. I don't know how that's possible. If you're in war, can you join NATO while you're at war? If they do join NATO, Article 5, doesn't that mean that they all have to now attack Russia and potentially a World War 3 could be starting and US has to get involved? I don't know. Obviously we'll talk about that a little bit.

Starting point is 00:04:42 Almost like it's planned. Biden tells Israel's Netanyahu future US support for war depends on new steps to protect civilians. He continues, Blinken warns Israel becoming like Hamas, losing reverence for human life. Dr. Phil had a couple guests on the October 7th atrocities, and it's interesting. I don't give a damn why they did it.'s wrong you just have to see the six exchanges very intense uh... we were at dinner uh... last week and we were invited by barron trump to go to dinner at marlago and we went to

Starting point is 00:05:15 three of us and we had a great time with them but a picture was uh... leaked uh... not leaked posted by justin waller that got forty million views on Twitter and Newsweek is contacting saying what is this all about. They even critiqued the way we were dressed. And can you show the picture of how tall Barron was, you know, amongst all of us. Not the kids.

Starting point is 00:05:36 Well, you have to see the rest, but we'll show it to you in a minute. We'll maybe even give you a little bit of insight on what our experience was with Barron and you'll be surprised. Some of the stuff is very, things maybe you wouldn't have expected. Migrants in Mexico say that Biden, they want Biden to win reelection. What a noble group of people that they want, illegal migrants want, a migrant who want Biden to win election, as they fear this guy named Donald Trump would not let him back into the U.S.

Starting point is 00:06:02 Dwayne Johnson was with your colleague, right? Will Cain. Will Cain, and he said he's not very happy with the state of America today, right? And he said, would you be voting? I will not. And a lot of people in Hollywood lost their shit. I mean, it's pretty crazy what's going on with that.

Starting point is 00:06:16 But we'll show the clip and we'll talk about that. We'll show the old clip as well when he endorsed Biden, just to get full commentary. A state, a lot of us are not considering moving to the state called California. Businesses take on Gavin Newsom over tax hikes. And by the way, this is kind of weird. So Newsom restaurant is offering jobs at 16 bucks an hour despite the new state laws, $20 an hour for fast food workers. I wonder how you get to do that Like it's very strategic. You got to give them credit on how strategic governor is called being a politician

Starting point is 00:06:49 Yeah, I mean a guy in the past would have said strategic right? It's like a strategic type of a thing And then what else we got here? Let me go to this next one here. We'll talk NATO We'll talk this Pennsylvania moving in more positive direction FNM poll that came out times got some thoughts on that and then a little bit commentary on what's going on with Candice and Ben. I don't know if you're following that story closely with the two of them going back and forth. I think there could be a possible sit down, but the negotiation is a little bit intense. We made our offers on what the negotiation is going to be, but it is what it is. Okay, before we get into it, couple things. We got three signed books from Jesse here.

Starting point is 00:07:27 Get it together. Here's how it works on getting it together. One, we're going to do a raffle, I think next Tuesday Rob, is what we'll do. And future looks bright gear. Anybody that places an order, $50 or more today, the first 100 who do that, you'll be in a raffle to get a signed copy from Jesse. And what we're going to be doing with this as well is it has to be 50 plus, it has to be future looks bright gear that you pick up.

Starting point is 00:07:55 When you do that, we will throw in the PBD Podcast mug that says future looks bright, a pin and a keychain, but it's only for the first 100 that place an order of Future Looks Bright gear. You do that, Future Looks Bright mug, a pin and a keychain, and Tuesday we'll do a raffle to get three signed copies sent to three of you of Jesse Waters' latest book, Get It Together. Selling some books, I like that. Yeah, we'll be doing that. Let's go.

Starting point is 00:08:20 All right, so let's get right into it. Jesse, Diddy. Yeah. There's a lot of crazy things that's going on with this story, Diddy, right? A lot of people are calling him the Epstein of the music, the Hollywood world, the entertainment world. I read this story and I want to kind of get your thoughts on this here. So here's a story. Sean Diddy Combs, former bodyguard, claims Music Mogul had tapes of politicians and princes out there.

Starting point is 00:08:46 And we'll play this clip in a minute. Gene Deal, who was present the night before Notorious B.I.G. Biggie was fatally shot in 1997, made the sensational comments during an interview with Art of Dialogue YouTube channel and here's what he had to say. Go for it, Rob. After finding out he was recording everything. But not only celebrities, not only celebrities, I don't think it's only celebrities going to be shook. He had politicians in there. He had princes in there. Uh-oh. He also had a couple of preachers in there. Oh, damn.

Starting point is 00:09:25 Is he talking about who I think he's talking about? Oh, you think? Hallelujah! Is he? Cap Williams commented on that. Cap Williams definitely brought him on a preacher. Yeah, you know what preacher that is. I don't.

Starting point is 00:09:36 Okay, well you don't know the preacher that will see with Diddy at one of the parties that Cap Williams says, I don't care whether you're TD Jakes or Diddy. Oh yeah, he was the two D's coming out in 2024. Listen, again, this is allegedly, that's what he's saying. Your thoughts on this story here. So it wasn't just this guy that was saying it, Lil Rod, the former producer, filed the lawsuit and he said every room in Diddy's mansions were wired with cameras. And he had some of the footage, he had some of the pictures, and he displayed those in the lawsuit that came out. And this was used for blackmail material. They'd bring in these people, a

Starting point is 00:10:15 lot of these people were also aspiring young artists in the music industry, and then these parties were sponsored by Motown Records CEO, Universal Records CEO. This goes all the way to the top. And so you get these people in compromising situations. The drinks were laced, the videotapes were hot, and then at the end of the day, you wake up the next morning, what did I do? And then they have compromising material on you. And then they can guide your career.

Starting point is 00:10:44 They could kill your career,ising material on you. And then they can guide your career. They could kill your career. But they got you. And it wasn't just people in the music business. As you said, there were athletes, there were celebrities, there were politicians, people from the royal family. And we were also told by the former bodyguard that Diddy was an FBI informant. So he was a snitch and was feeding information to the feds. And we don't know what that means,

Starting point is 00:11:05 we haven't been able to confirm it, but even Little Rod said, it's not just like Epstein, it could be worse than Jeffrey Epstein. Now, let me ask you this, when you're seeing something like that, do you think, you know how somebody is making money for you, you can't lose them because they're still making money for you, right?

Starting point is 00:11:25 So, for example, like an athlete, LeBron James, he's still getting a lot of endorsements, he's still making a lot of money. You got to make sure you protect that asset because that guy's making you a lot of money. I think the number one person right now that you have to protect in music is Taylor Swift. You have to protect her. It's a big insurance policy. She's young, she's going to be around for a long time to come. The concerts, the money making, the five billion dollars, the tours, all that stuff. Nothing can go wrong with her because, God forbid,

Starting point is 00:11:52 something happens, you're making money off of her. You don't take Taylor to a Diddy party. You don't go anywhere near a freak-off party. That's right. So here's why I'm going with this. Do you think Diddy's at a phase that, how do you make money off Diddy today? Because what's Diddy doing today? He's not performing. So is it more that you protect Diddy because the people that he knows that he can destroy their lives that you kind of like have to keep them quiet? Or do you have to find a way to eliminate him, kind of like they try to eliminate this

Starting point is 00:12:21 guy named Jeffrey? I don't know if he was being eliminated by the FBI or even by the Universal Records executives. What happened was Cassie filed this lawsuit. He settled in about 48 hours. So then everybody goes, Oh, did he, did he settling? So everybody starts filing. And so Lil Rod files some real graphic nasty stuff. We're talking minors, sex trafficking, ecstasy and the alcohol, and then all hell blows loose. And that's when the feds come in and raid, and they go right to the camera system and

Starting point is 00:12:55 pull all the servers out, and they, I believe, arrested the drug mule. And so they're closing in. They're going to build a case. And look, is this something that's coming down at the highest level? And so they're closing in they're gonna build a case and Look is this something that's coming down at the highest level I have no idea But I know diddy's life is about to blow up and there's really no way to get out of this And I want to say this and Vinny I want to go to you as Ashton Kutcher is seen as he prepares to be subpoenaed On diddy's case. That's one next one Sean that he comes ex Cassie that he paid off

Starting point is 00:13:24 I think 30 million bucks whatever the number is on Diddy's case. That's one. Next one. Sean Diddy Combs ex-Cassie that he paid off, I think 30 million bucks, whatever the number is, cooperating with federal investigations amid the sex trafficking probe. That's bad. That's very bad. That's bad. Right? So next one. Sean Diddy Combs still continues carefree in Miami. This is a story from yesterday.

Starting point is 00:13:39 Yep. Lifestyle by smoking and drinking after federal raids. Chandri Combs Young's son, Christian King, 25, is now sued. So it's like, if it isn't one thing, it's another thing constantly popping up. But just from my point of view though, he's in Miami, he's riding bikes, he's taking photos. He seems as if he doesn't have a care in the world. To me, somebody from the outside looking in,

Starting point is 00:14:01 it seems like they're like, hey listen, especially with the casket thing, that thing blew the top off of everything we have to go in there you don't be there we're gonna make the play we're gonna grab all the footage and everything I think people are going to fall nothing is gonna happen to him he's gonna be protected but they've been using Diddy for how long Jesse from from the politicians so back in 2004 he launched vote or die yep so he was for Kerry then he was for Obama yep then it was for Kerry, then he was for Obama,

Starting point is 00:14:26 then it was for Hillary, and then he's for Biden. So he has been the community organizer for the Democratic Party in the streets for about 20 years. He's a valuable asset. Big time, big time. And they gave, like he started to revolt through Maxine. Maxine Waters. Gave him a cut in order for that merger to go through.

Starting point is 00:14:44 She said, my guy has to get a piece of the pie. So if you think about it, he's obviously in with these higher up politicians. You're in there recording all these people and having all this dirt. Like they say with Epstein was working for Masada, God knows who he was working for. Who knows who did he was? He's not recording all these people, all these princes just have like footage for when he's older to show to his kids This is a this is a coordinated thing And I think the Cassie thing blew the top off and now they're like we have to go in and make sure nothing is

Starting point is 00:15:12 Incriminating for us or else he does because when they went in and raided Epstein's mansions We never saw any of that foot not one minute only galane Maxwell went down bingo They never got anybody else and he had tapes in little st James he had tapes in the Upper East Side. He had tapes in New Mexico and Palm Beach We never heard anything else about that exactly Jesse you said something a little bit earlier than I was like whoa Because he's been called the black Epstein. Yeah, you said earlier that this could even be worse than Epstein. How do you feel about that? Like that's a pretty shocking statement. That's what Lil Rod alleges in the lawsuit.

Starting point is 00:15:50 Well, you've covered this. How do you stand on it? I don't know if he's talking about the violence towards women or the age towards, or the age factor of the minors or the drug factor. Epstein there was not a lot of drugs. This case has drugs. This case has lots of narcotics. If you read the filings, we're talking meth, cocaine, PCP, ecstasy. The stuff in the drink that make you pass out so you don't remember. Roofies. Roofies. We all saw they over. Yeah. Everybody was getting roofy. And apparently everybody, they were even, there was even conversations of, I just saw another video where a Diddy is giving a drink to Justin Bieber. And I dude, we keep seeing

Starting point is 00:16:35 videos with him and Justin Bieber and like they're making sure that Justin Bieber is drinking it. And there's another cut of him in the party. And Justin Bieber just looks like a little bit. What age was he at the time? Does it really matter at that point? Justin Bieber's now just I mean he was young with blonde hair like he was like what? 17 18 you see this video. Yeah, this is what you pat him down. He just this is a potential Watch his touch his chest touching his chest. Make sure you don't have a wire on you. Look I got I got a message I'm trying to see I'm not obviously I'm not gonna. Look at that. I got a message. I'm trying to see. Obviously I'm not going to reveal the source, but I got a message from a guy saying that

Starting point is 00:17:08 some of this has to do with that drink company, the Diageo. Can you type in Diageo's market cap? They're massive. Type in Diageo market cap. If you just type in Diageo market cap, market cap, $81 billion. And what this insider said to me, just purely on what could happen, it's given, again, I'm not giving a source, it could be speculation. He said they owe him $2 billion. And he said it could be the fact that they are doing this to not have to pay him two billion dollars. Now

Starting point is 00:17:46 can you just type in maybe type in Diageo owes Diddy two billion dollars. See if anything like that comes up. Diageo owes Diddy two billion dollars. Go to news. Can you go just to news at the top. Let's see what stories pop up. Can you go a little lower? Okay. Diddy Diageo and the Climb Sean Combs business empire. Sean Diddy Combs dumped by Diageo, maker of Johnny Walker. Didi sues? Didi sues. Shon Didi and Combs and Diageo settle, withdraw lawsuit in case of Diageo of racism.

Starting point is 00:18:13 Okay. So there's something that's going on there that is, you know, kind of ugly. And obviously the people that are saying that, they're supporters of him. So they're kind of like saying there's something going on you guys are not see right another thing they got to consider what do you what do you know about scene litigation between those two and there's a racial charge there as well and if they've settled and i also heard did he double cross them so i don't really know what's going on at that level but i do know that

Starting point is 00:18:40 uh... you said you don't think did he's going down i have a i i i disagree But you said you don't think Diddy's going down. I have, I disagree. And why do you think that? And I think if you have the feds go in there and seize everything in the house, phones, electronics, video cameras, and he has multiple civil suits in play, do you think Universal Records is going to take the fall? I don't think Universal Records is going to take the fall. Do you think lesser players are? Because just think about the day that they raided rated He wasn't there and his jet flew with God knows what he wasn't on it to a place that doesn't have any US

Starting point is 00:19:11 Extradition, maybe all the tapes and all everything that was just like a delivery method because why else is he dancing and having a great? Time in the streets. He's not delusional because it's great PR. Yep. Well, let me ask you this Here's a question for all of you guys. Here's a question for and but Rob Can you run a poll on this? Who was more powerful and feared? Harvey Weinstein or did he? Put the poll on curious enough what the audience will say again Very important question. Okay, think about this before we before we answer process on Harvey Weinstein Yep, one the top four

Starting point is 00:19:43 Godfathers Hollywood controlled huge all of that stuff the amount of power he had and he Was not a visible guy. He's a behind closed door guy. Yeah, Clinton's presidents all that stuff or did he? music hip-hop Links of Biggie's death Tupac's death You know what he's done with all these girls JLo all these names that are tied to him who is a bigger man to fall I To fall you said to fear mean no no fear and fall meaning like which one can that industry not afford to fall that they Have to protect I think did he because of all the them because why did he over Weinstein?

Starting point is 00:20:17 I think Weinstein was my movies and that but did he now we're seeing was politics presidents musicians that but did he now we're seeing was politics presidents musicians elites I think did he I don't think it's close I think it's Weinstein man this guy yeah Hollywood bro what do you think the fear is Hollywood did he have anybody murdered did he have anybody killed did he allegedly had not only two guys murdered he's shooting people you know what the purpose of this question is who is more untouchable? Why Hollywood?

Starting point is 00:20:46 Well obviously, I thought Weinstein was untouchable until he wasn't. That's the point. So the point he's making when he's asking you the question to say, do you really think he's not going to go down and he's protected? And he said, yes, he is protected. Okay. I had Bernard Carrick at the house, we're having lunch yesterday or two days ago, right? Bernie.

Starting point is 00:21:04 Party. i have bernard carey cut that's where i lunch yesterday or two days ago the right bernie and party and so i said so in new york for the longest time when you watch these movies right mobster great movie the old mobster movie where the story of lucky and yet myer land skin frank and ben seagal and all this stuff for now if you want to know the history of mob that's the movie to watch a beautiful movie uh... filled with a lot of facts on what happened. Nobody ever thought that the mob was going to fall.

Starting point is 00:21:29 Nobody ever thought, they thought it were the Untouchables. There's a movie I think called The Untouchables, right? Or a show that was called Untouchables. Right. So, and then the day the 240 whatever guys are walking out like this and just going out and saying, wait a minute, how many judges did did they have how many cops did they pay off? How many guys in politics that they have and nobody thought anything was gonna happen to them? Do you think something like that?

Starting point is 00:21:55 It's about to happen where you see a bunch of these music industry Hollywood moguls coming out like that like you think it's gonna be that ugly You think it's gonna be more like cuz look Harvey Weinstein. Have you seen his latest pictures? What he looks like he went from the powerful guy You know sitting there like this and have an art wheelchair a demon. What do you think? I think you're never gonna see a guy like Universal Records CEO or a Motown Records CEO go down Those guys are executives. They're well connected. They're gonna make Diddy take the fall and You think so because there can always be make Diddy take the fall. And... You think so? Because there can always be another Diddy.

Starting point is 00:22:27 Someone else will pop up and do the same thing. This was a widespread operation. It was a racketeering conspiracy, where these record companies would then sponsor these parties, hand Diddy loads of cash that he used for the drugs, the trafficking, and this was all videotaped. And then they would profit from these young people that came up in the business that were at these parties.

Starting point is 00:22:52 They took them to the studios, they signed them to labels, and then they used them to make money. And this was a grand scheme. If the feds want to go all the way up the food chain on it, they can go as high as they want. But something tells me they're going gonna suppress it and have one guy take the food I think do you guys sorry Tom do you guys think that? He got which one's more like like more probable him going to jail and getting trouble for it or something God forbid happening where he kills himself because he can't take it like Epstein which one Adam

Starting point is 00:23:21 Where do you think you think did he's gonna go behind bars? He's too much of a narcissist to kill him What I'm saying? Well, I'm being facetious Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself. Let's not let's not let's just use the word allegedly around Our friend, you know what? You know what? I know this is Vincent O'Shaughn a belief. I'm not stupid What I'm saying is what do you jail or so? I I line up I line up with with with Jesse I went to school Pepperdine with the guy who became an auditor and he was an auditor at that time with a company called to Shross and the record industry is the largest long-term racketeering organization in human

Starting point is 00:23:58 history. You go back to he never lost an audit case. He would find out that they were pressing records in the Philippines when they were only supposed to be pressing Reps in Mexico in the US he represented a hairband called poison They found an extra half a million albums over five years that were pressed other ways and sold How did you audit it the the record industry from the the cocaine? Controversies where they were paying off this jockey's to get airplay, the record industry has been the largest record-touring organization. And it does not surprise me, and I agree with you, Jesse, none of those executives are going

Starting point is 00:24:33 to go down. None of them. If you talk about Weinstein and Diddy, is Diddy more feared because of the groups and the things that are going around? I think he was feared, but I really thought nobody was as untouchable as Harvey Weinstein I did not think that guy was going to get touched I thought he was going to get retired I didn't think he was gonna that these suits were gonna do it especially when they split it when they split it in LA and New York and they tried him twice

Starting point is 00:24:58 and they put him away forever I was really shocked that everybody turned and he fell what does the poll look like Rob What is it right now 65% say Harvey Weinstein 35% for Diddy? What's the amp? What's the size of the vote? 2091 votes 2091 they're saying 65% Weinstein was more untouchable correct than Diddy Wow Interesting on what the market is saying about that so the only reason I bring that case study is To see if he can fall in the last what, eight years? I don't know what the timeline is. Is it fair to say about eight or ten years? Correct.

Starting point is 00:25:31 If he can fall, you don't think Diddy can? The only difference between the two is, ah, because you have to also know that Weinstein's probably got a lot of dirt on a lot of other people. So the fear of him falling, is he gonna like the crap theory that where one crab is trying to get out of the The others try to pull him down. Yeah. Well, did it did he be the type that if God forbid he is gonna he gets arrested Well, he gets arrested Jesse. Let's say okay. Sure. You guys are right. He gets arrested. He goes in they're like listen You're going to stay in here for the rest of your life. No money's gonna get you out. Who had you recording? Who'd you give those record who was them? Who told you to do it? So Diddy's guy, Stevie J, who's all wired into this thing, came out the other day

Starting point is 00:26:11 and put out this video in this post and said, Diddy partied with everybody and put out a video with Kevin Hart was in it, Kanye was in the video, basically the biggest A-list celebrities you can see, and he's basically saying, hey, you know you were at my house, I know you were at my house, if I'm going down, everybody's going down. And even his bodyguard said he'd testify. He goes, I'm not gonna take the fall for diddy.

Starting point is 00:26:42 If I'm called, I'll testify. I'd like to find out How deep this goes in the hip-hop music industry? So you talk about Stevie J. I don't know familiar with him There's a party in Miami every Sunday. It's been the biggest hip-hop party in the world at live number one club in the country It's called live on Sundays and the DJ host is who that is Stevie J Diddy's there DJ Khaleded's there, Rick Ross is there, Con every Sunday. And they have pre-parties and they have post-parties. And I want to know how many of these people are going to speak. Because all these parties, all these stories, it's not just exclusive to Diddy. I want to know where they're all going to start.

Starting point is 00:27:23 Here's my question to you though. Would you speak if you were like like you said everybody we know all y'all were there and like he said if there's allegedly Cameras everywhere. What are you gonna say? They have you on camera? Well, by the way that young girl that I was talking to that 17 year old. Yeah. Yeah, you were with her Oh shit. What are they gonna talk about? That's the upscene that's you open your mouth and guess what that footage is gonna come out So who knows where that plane went and what was on it. What I'm asking is, if one goes, is it going to be the mob style where 62 people are being raided all of a sudden?

Starting point is 00:27:53 Is it going to be, hey, a bunch of guys are getting calls, a bunch of guys are being investigated? Remember when in New York, when they said you have a, whatever this was the timeline, in the next 90 days, if anything, then Jamie Foxx was there then even the mayor What's the mayor Adams was a part of it and a bunch of other guys name and then boom it shut down Do you remember that when the whole everybody was trying to get somebody? Oh, yeah, the case of the what was it Tom? It was like a certain amount of statutory. They change it to like 20 years What if what if all of a sudden now because this is the next phase we don't know about, so think about it, if all of a sudden 30 girls come out to 30 other celebrities that were

Starting point is 00:28:35 at the party, and now they get linked back to those parties, that's the next thing that you're sitting around saying, oh shoot, what just happened now? Because every day, this is not, how many people you think are sitting down and saying, dude, I hope this thing goes away. I hope this thing goes away. Oh my God. Everybody that was there. It's the same thing they did with Epstein. Same thing, and then we find out Bill Gates is at the Epstein place, all these other people. And that's why his wife left him, because she couldn't deal with that. And if we learn anything from Epsteinstein this story's not going away. Yeah there's there's one more angle here. Jesse what is a news media hearing on

Starting point is 00:29:08 the Diddy FBI long-term informant side? There's a lot of stuff below the surface. We've only heard that one comment from Kanye who said he was a fed and then we heard it from the former bodyguard who said he was informing to the FBI. Other than that we don't have a lot of information and we can't kneel that down. But according to that Lil Rod lawsuit too, he witnessed Diddy going in his closet in his bedroom and pulling out guns and giving it to a bunch of guys that were wearing all black. It was also an allegation that he had the local sheriffs paid off. It was an allegation that he had contacts with local gang members in Los Angeles.

Starting point is 00:29:49 I don't know what that means, but it looks like Diddy's playing both sides. Is this Kanye? Rob, if you can play that clip, yeah, if you can play it. I'm not sure if this is the right one. You're saying that Kanye was the one that said he was playing the feds? Kanye said he was a fed.

Starting point is 00:30:02 He said Kanye. Wow, this is the one. Yeah, and the former bodyguard said it too heard when was this video was a wild go go ahead okay just play have to address to my child none of these niggas that want to say something that address Travis gave me the address but as far as meek mills puff daddy whoever none of these niggas are you fake hard niggas fuck you wait no no no are you fake hard niggas? Fuck you. Wait, hold on. Are you fake hard niggas? Fuck you You know I'm saying I'll get fuck who cuz you can't shoot nobody anyway

Starting point is 00:30:30 And the reason why you got talks cuz you did a deal you fucking fed. Oh, you know saying that's why you gotta come In me cuz part of the deal for you to be a doer And get out of jail You gonna go pull my co-tar co-car. So y'all niggas shut the fuck up about me Now let me say a car you niggas shut the fuck up How much credibility this guy hold on but you Know what he's saying though If you make a deal with the feds you could go out there and Bob and shoot and get arrested

Starting point is 00:31:01 But then you get a you get to get out way more leniency because you're working for them. That whole rapper image. I think there's an angle here, and I think it hasn't been seen yet, because there's a lot that goes in as like, why has Maxwell been sitting in prison? Why hasn't the list come out? What happened to Epstein was Epstein really massaged. There's a lot back there that seems a lot of smoke and maybe a lot of fire.

Starting point is 00:31:22 You just have to look at the history of informants and do a little research and there's patterns here. Manuel Noriega, CIA informant from 1950 to 1980 for the CIA, president of Panama. He goes sideways, kills his, what, Spadafora, kills Spadafora, gets Barletta the president to resign. George Bush, senior, previously CIA says, hey, our informants out of control, what should we do? We need to liberate the people of Panama. It was the largest American military action since the Vietnam War. 27,000 military went down, extracted and put them on trial in Miami and put them in a US prison. That's a good way to make your informant set up. Jesse, I think there's shadows here of this.

Starting point is 00:32:04 I think there's shadows coming. Go ahead, Jesse. Yeah, so that is one pattern. If you look at the case in New York with the nightclub shooting, where his protege, Shine, took the case instead of Diddy. Diddy allegedly had J.Lo smuggle that pistol into the club, and that was cleaned up.

Starting point is 00:32:23 He was never charged for it. Shine took it. And then you have the other allegation where there was a shooting in a bathroom at a Diddy recording studio. Blood everywhere. That was in the lawsuit. We saw the photographs and police came in, cleaned it up. Diddy said it was a drive-by. Guy bled out in the bathroom. No charges again. So that's a pattern of very favorable treatment by law enforcement. It just makes you a little suspicious, that's all.

Starting point is 00:32:49 And that's a fair thing to be suspicious about, right, when you see something like that. Let's transition to the next story. Okay, next story. So Dwayne Johnson, the rock, goes on interviews with Will Cain, and Will Cain asks him a question about how he feels america's doing today here's his answer and will even asked if he will be endorsing president biden the way he did a few years ago go ahead wrap

Starting point is 00:33:15 you made that north in twenty twenty are you happy with state of america my happy with the state of america right now well that answers no do i believe we're going to get better? I believe in that. I'm an optimistic guy and I believe we can get better. The endorsement that I made years ago with Biden was one I thought was the best decision for me at that time. And I thought back then when we talk about, hey, you know, I'm in this position where I have some influence, and it's my job

Starting point is 00:33:48 then, I felt like that then, it's my job now to exercise my influence and share with, this is who I'm going to endorse. Am I going to do that again this year? That answer's no. Wow. So, how do you process that, Jesse? I think his boys were giving him a hard time for the last four years. That was the stupidest endorsement ever.

Starting point is 00:34:11 And you're talking about The Rock. You're talking about Tom Cruise-level celebrity, box office celebrity, $20 million, $30 million a movie, and he endorsed Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. He can't go every weekend. His boys are busting his chops. Like are you kidding me? And not only that, not only that Patrick, he's now on the board of directors at UFC, WWE.

Starting point is 00:34:40 What's that fan base like? Oh, we know is that is that a sleepy Joe fan base? Not a Trump not at all for sure. What's that fan base like? Oh, we know is that is that a sleepy Joe fan base? Trump not at all this is a little bit of a business decision walk back and I give him credit for walking him back, but Probably the worst endorsement of all time. And by the way, is this the way he did? Is this a clip on endorsed Biden? Can you play this clip? So guys I had the opportunity to sit down with Vice President Joe Biden and Senator Kamala Harris to talk about a number of important issues that we're facing as a country.

Starting point is 00:35:11 I thought it was a great and extremely productive conversation that we had. And as a registered independent for years now with centrist, excuse me, ideologies, I do feel that Vice President Biden and Senator Harris are the best choice to lead our country, and I am endorsing them to become president and vice president of our United States. Yeah, you can pop that in. Oh, is he wearing a broad leg?

Starting point is 00:35:36 Look at his boobs. So, so- He's got like extra craft. But like, let's stay on this, because if you go on Twitter and you look at it, the people on the left lost their Minds literally you should see what they're saying about him on Twitter He is being attacked left and right from the people on the left and people who are not fans of Trump

Starting point is 00:35:56 Just because he said I will not be doing that again this year now that doesn't mean he said The interpretation of that could be what? What's definite? Definite is, I'm not voting for Biden. That's how I process that. So that leaves two guys, which is who? RFK or Trump, or one other option, which is what? I'm sitting this one out. Now he's a guy that loves America, which means you can't sit a vote out.

Starting point is 00:36:19 If you love America and you truly are a patriot, you lose the option to not vote, which means leaves him two options. Now, the people that vote for RFK, they're typically the anti, you know, maybe they're not fans of forced vaccination, freedom of speech. I don't know if Dwayne Johnson is part of that camp. So does that eliminate RFK to lead to a guy that nobody would ever think? So is he a guy that's going to end up voting for Trump without anybody knowing about it and he'll be a closet voter that's going to be kept to himself so he doesn't lose any

Starting point is 00:36:50 jobs? I don't know. What do you think? I think he's going Trump. You think he's going Trump? I think he's going Trump. He said he's a patriot. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:36:58 He wants the country to get better. It can't get any worse than it is now. Yeah. So can I give you guys my thoughts on this here? So I want you to think about this for a second. Think about guys that actually are, what do you call it, are guys that are truly independents, who are famous, super famous, who may have voted on the left or may have voted in the middle? But they can be seen personality wise as a synergist Okay, a synergist that can bring maybe both groups can bring them a little bit like this, right?

Starting point is 00:37:34 Who do you see as somebody that can be a center? Obviously, we know LeBron's not part of the synergist camp, right? he's out right I think you know a name like maybe a He's out right. I think you know a name like maybe a Chris Pratt maybe a name like that if you put you know, Dwayne Johnson Maybe a Kim Kardashian that and I know that kind of sounds weird saying Kim But Kim's got a lot of influence three four hundred million followers all the sisters together. They got a billion followers, right? So if you think about that level of influence, who do you put at that level? McConaughey. Okay. Wasn't he trying to be that centrist guy in Texas?

Starting point is 00:38:07 Yeah, good point. I think he's a little left of center, but he was trying for that middle road. With the Second Amendment, when he did that thing, came out and gave a speech about guns, that kind of was more left position he took, right? It was, yeah, that hurt him. That hurt him. Yeah. And he wanted to be a governor at the time.

Starting point is 00:38:19 He wanted to kind of go against that. He was flirting with it. Who else you think? Who else you think plays a role like that? Because that's what I think of the rock. I think the Rock is grappling with something right now, but who else you put at that level? Who else you put at that level that they can come out and say, look, I'm gonna make a decision. It's gonna be tough.

Starting point is 00:38:36 Here's why I'm making a decision, and I know I'm gonna get a lot of heat for this, but this is why I'm making it because I think we are divided and the division is coming from here and I'd like to see us do this. Who are some voices like that? It's a different wiring of a personality. It's not everybody. Who do you think has the capability of doing that? Tom, what do you think about? When I think about like celebrities they have the opportunity to to lift forward, you know, the rock and this magnetism and kind of the sports angle sits there to me is like it's tier zero and I don't think there's a lot up there with him. I think there's some tier one people but he's like a Reagan. Kind of

Starting point is 00:39:12 Reagan came out of movie industry, he was in it but not all about it and then he you know ran for governor, subsequently ran for president. There's not many tier zero people that are in like entertainment that have the ability to have that escape velocity, especially today because you have to be so woke. You have to salute the liberal flag, salute the wokeness up to a point. How do you get escape, how do you live as an independent and have legitimacy for your position and get escape velocity out of that? That's hard today. So who do you think? I got one. Go for it.

Starting point is 00:39:45 Tom Brady. I was just gonna say Tom Brady. Oh wow. He's positioned himself pretty beautifully in the country. At one time he had a MAGA hat in his locker. I got a little attention. I got shit for it. And he's one of those guys that's good American,

Starting point is 00:40:01 well liked by everybody. I think he could pull it off in a way that people would respond to. I think so too. But Jess, how, how, how let's stay on this. I think Tom is a Trump guy. He is. I mean, he's, I don't think he's out there expressing it. But I think it's pretty, pretty obvious. I'll give you just a couple of names real quick. Certainly the rock, certainly Joe Rogan.

Starting point is 00:40:26 I would say Adam Sandler. Like he is so likable. I didn't see that coming. He is so likable. I agree. And like if Adam Sandler, he won't do it though. He won't do it. And then I don't know if he's a synergist, but Elon, why do I say this?

Starting point is 00:40:45 Yeah. I would, I'd be willing to guess there's probably data on this. Rogan was a Bernie guy. Elon was not a Trump guy at all. The rock endorsed Biden, Adam Sandler. I don't know where he stands, but if all three of those guys, some of the biggest names in the world are like, look, we were on this team before upon further review we're kind of over here now I think a lot of people in the country would be like yeah okay. Okay so I wrote down I think Tom Brady is a big one I don't have that written on that's that makes sense Rogan I had a written on for sure I think Musk could play that role even though he's like a trollish type of guy I don't know he kind of likes to troll.

Starting point is 00:41:27 So maybe it's not the, maybe he could, maybe it's not part of his DNA. I think a Snoop could. I think a Snoop could be somebody from the hip hop side to come out and say, hey guys, let me tell you, I've been around, this is how old I am, this is what I've seen, this is what I've done, and I think we're at a point right now where we gotta stop thinking about this is a, what the hell are we doing? Here's what we got Let's bring all of us together. I think those types of people but I think would rock You know what phase rock said right now how can you pull up how old rock is if I'm 45 rocks 54

Starting point is 00:41:56 He looks fantastic Freaking one this guy looks like he's 40 years old. He looks younger than me Not taking anything so that's natural, right? That's all I give you one more name 18 and one chemicals make all things. Let me make my point. Sure Let me make my point. So what I think with the rock right now is this is this is the question He has to answer. Okay, you know what the question is pull up rocks net worth pull ups rocks net worth Has he is he like 600 million 700 million? What's his net worth? He's not a billionaire. No, I don't know if he is He may be he's got he's gonna be but what is rocks net worth. Is he like $600 million, $700 million? What's his net worth? Is he not a billionaire yet?

Starting point is 00:42:25 No. I don't know if he is. He may be. He's going to be, but what is his net worth? What does it say? $800 million. Okay. So how much of that $800 million is paper money?

Starting point is 00:42:35 And you know what I'm asking, Tom? So how much of that $800 million is paper wealth? What's paper wealth? Paper wealth is how much of it is tied to a drink company that he hasn't sold yet, right? Okay, right. There's got 30 to 40 percent stake in what term Anna which has a current. Okay, so that's a lot So it's like 650 of his 800. Okay, so you know then then he can't be too loud because Terra mana Can you pull up the profile of a Terra mana drinker like?

Starting point is 00:43:06 What's the wartime? How do we Google that? What is the? Demographic? Ideal demographic of a Terra Mana drinker. Customer profile. Customer profile. Perfect. Terra Mana.

Starting point is 00:43:16 So let's take a look at this. Gold Little Lower, Terra Mana Tequila, do they have Gold Little Lower? Let's see if it shows it or not. Bodybuilder that likes tequila. Let's see what that one, eight things you need. Well, it's 2021. Anyways, what would be the profile of a TerraMano drinker? I think Rock's followership, whether he knows it or not, I think 70 plus percent are, you

Starting point is 00:43:37 know, man's man, you know, who's conservative. I think 65 plus percent of his guys are there, so if he's got 35% equity in taramanos that's worth two billion dollars at 700 million dollars he hasn't cashed out yet the people on the inside that are advisors giving him advice his ex his friends his peers they're probably gonna say lay low until we exit this one because it's 90% of your net worth that's 80% of your net worth so I don't think it's 80% of your net worth. That's 80% of your net worth. I don't think it's 80% of it but because I think he made 124 million dollars a couple years ago, high-spade actor in the world, so it's not like this

Starting point is 00:44:10 guy's not making money. But if he gets to a point where the level of pride of family, dad comes down, he's having those moments, the conversations, did you ever see Rock's speech when his dad died, the speech he gave at the church? Every man has to watch this. Every man has to watch this. You have to take a few minutes and go watch this. How long ago did his father pass away? Six years ago.

Starting point is 00:44:33 It could be four years ago. It's recent when he died. If you've never seen this, four years ago. Okay, so he died four years ago. Let me tell you, afterwards, let me just text you here so you can, because it's seven minutes long, I think, six or seven, you got to watch it. And when you watch this guy, you will see a man that has a lot of pride. He's proud to be that man's son. And he's proud to be an American. He loves America.

Starting point is 00:45:02 But he's grappling with some of these business decisions that he's worked so many years for to get to the side. And paper wealth sometimes makes people not fully make a decision publicly because it could cost them a lot of money. You know what RNC convention he was at? 2001. And he spoke. You know this one, right?

Starting point is 00:45:21 The Rock spoke at the RNC in 2000. I didn't know that. Type in The Rock at RNC. Did you know this or not? I forgot that. At the RNC in 2000. I didn't know that. Type in The Rock at RNC. Did you know this or not? I forgot that. At the RNC. Guys, go YouTube, type in RNC.

Starting point is 00:45:29 This is at the George W. Bush? Guys, he is speaking at the RNC. What's this, do you smell what The Rock is cooking face? Type in. There it is, right there. Type in. 2001. The speech at RNC. Let me find it for you.

Starting point is 00:45:43 No, he spoke on stage at the RNC that doesn't make sense but he but he endorsed Biden and now he's talking for them 2000 2000 there you go I just found it I'll send it to you yeah so this is Bush Gore this is when he was full look at this plate this is one yeah you invited the rock the World Wrestling Federation champion, to speak at the Republican National Convention? I forgot about this. You can pause it right here.

Starting point is 00:46:12 So the point is, listen man, typically as you get older, you don't get more left. If you're conservative in 2000, 24 years later with family, kids, you marry an Armenian, you know what I'm saying? Like, this is gonna happen. Except if you got 35% in a $2 billion company that you haven't cashed out yet. Or except if you go Hollywood. Well, yes, but I think at this phase, he's asking legacy. And as you age, there's something unique that happens as you age. Your thermometer, the other day T-Calls in the back watching this podcast right now, And as you age, there's something unique that happens as you age.

Starting point is 00:46:45 Your thermometer, the other day Tico's in the back watching this podcast right now, and he says, hey dad, you mind if I read the book, The Subtle Art of Not Giving Up? I read that, it's a good book. It's a very good book. I said, yeah, you can read it. He says, is it okay if I read it? I said, he says, I don't know why he has that title, but it makes me want to read it, right? He says to me last night, he says, you think there's power in not giving up? I F I said there's a lot of power in that but sometimes people give too much of an F when they're younger

Starting point is 00:47:10 You know what? I should have named my book what get it the F together Get it together. So this is the get it together PG-13 version But but the point is I don't know if he's gotten to that phase yet If he's gone to the phase that it's the subtle art of not giving a flying you know what anymore, and he wants to go out there and unite, history could look back at this guy as being a synergist. I think he could be a Reagan-esque synergist if he comes out and says, this is my value. I'm pro-America, I'm pro-military, I'm pro-Second Amendment, I'm pro-family, I'm pro-kids, I'm pro-America. I'm pro-military. I'm pro-Second Amendment. I'm pro-family. I'm pro-kids. I'm pro-pro-pro-capitalism. Pro this. This is what I'm pro. Certain areas of my life

Starting point is 00:47:51 I'm social. I have friends that are maybe gay. I have this and this and that. Great. Boom. You know, run on that. I can see that potential now is not that time. He just tipped his toe in the water back again on the Republican side. I think he's going to let this election play out. And remember Trump's term limited 20, 20, what? Eight? It's over. Open primary on both sides. So he can seize it if he wants it. He just needs to make sure he sells the stocks in the next three years. Yeah. Because if you think about it, if he, he's not, he didn't openly come out. Cause I mean,

Starting point is 00:48:23 what happens to the Rocks career if in that interview, he went, definitely not going Biden, I'm actually endorsing Donald J. Trump. Sexual allegations would come out the next day. Dude, nobody would work with him in Hollywood. The shit storm would follow. That's a very good point. So Jesse, I respect what he's doing, because he's letting, by the way, you nailed it. How many, a billion people, everybody letting by the way you nailed it. How many a billion people?

Starting point is 00:48:45 Everybody knows who the hell the rock is. He's even saying that seven percent highest recognizable face in the world Okay, so and how many how many human beings are there? eight billion so Four billion people that even that right there is making people go. Wait a minute. He's more recognizable than Trump He is at the highest recognizable celebrity in the world Maybe not Trump, but he's at 57% Maybe it's not he tops Tom Cruise. Oh, yeah for sure with those muscle Brothers probably a lot of people's guys not to score. I'm not talking to score. I'm talking Recognizable in the world rock it because you got to realize he is in movies in China

Starting point is 00:49:23 He is in movies in in I he is in movies, he's in movies. So movie celebrities, they're going to be recognized more. I guarantee you right now people know Rock more than they know Biden. Only reason why they're not Trump is because Trump's been a celebrity for decades and that could be it. But he is that kind of an influence. So yes, it's a challenging place to be, but again, maybe the Rock needs to go read the book The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Flying, you know what? Or get it to F together. I think he's got more influence than he thinks, and I don't think he, if he's thinking that,

Starting point is 00:49:50 you know, I gotta play nice with the board of directors, I gotta think to him with the drink company, I think if he's listening, he's got more power there than he thinks. The board of directors of Oracle have always tried to talk Larry Ellison about weeding his power, and he was from the conservative side. Bloomberg told everybody, no I'm going I'm going to do this despite my company and they both had huge huge companies with boards that didn't want him to be too political. I think I think the Rock has got more ability to do this and he may think and more influence to baby let people know no this is what I'm going to do and this is where I'm gonna go. Two books. Read that book and the other book is I messaged

Starting point is 00:50:29 him but the other book having given the book it would be barbarians to bureaucrats if he really wants to know what a society what a civilization what a company goes through from the face of a prophet to a barbarian to a builder explorer to the administrators that create law and order. To then comes the bureaucrats and aristocrats. He will realize America's going through the phase of having bureaucrats and aristocrats. And in that time, in a company, in a family, in a denomination, in a sports team, in any

Starting point is 00:50:59 organization, you need a synergist to bring them together and I think he'll identify with the synergist. I want together and I think he'll identify with the synergist. I want to go to the next story. Next story I want to go to is with Candice Owens and Ben Shapiro. It's a little bit of a messy situation here. Obviously Candice Owens is no longer with Daily Wire. That announcement's been made. Oh no.

Starting point is 00:51:20 When did that happen? And that announcement's been made for a couple weeks. Rob, if you can pull up the clip with Megan Kelly asking Ben Shapiro question Because I think Candace Owens asked the question saying I want to do a podcast and I want to find out the definition of What it is to be an anti-semite? That's what she's asking right? And then this is a question that Megan Kelly has been Shapiro recently go ahead a debate about whether the daily wire is pro Free speech the accusation is you are until it comes to Israel. How do you respond? recently. Go ahead. The United States has no real interests in the Middle East, and thus the United States should not be providing material support to anyone, including the state of Israel.

Starting point is 00:52:07 The Daily Wire is a publisher, not a platform. I would never call for anyone to be ousted from an actual platform, ex-YouTube. Even people who are, I think, absolutely horrific human beings, I've never called for any of them to be ousted. In fact, I've called for them to have their accounts restored if they've been banned. That's not the same thing when it comes to publishers. Publishers obviously have to decide what sort of things they wish to pay for the publication of.

Starting point is 00:52:29 And when it comes to, you know, hosting and publishers, you know, parting ways, obviously there'll be a non-meeting of the minds. That's pretty much all I can say on that. But by the way, he's actually being straight up saying, look, I'm not a platform. I'm a publisher. If I want to fire somebody, I can do it because I disagree with what they're saying. That's how I took what he just said right there, right? That's pretty how we all took it.

Starting point is 00:52:49 Straight up, no problem. But here's what Candace Owens tweeted yesterday that kind of started the whole thing. I think it's right there, Rob. First she tweets this out, which we talked about Andrew Schultz. Andrew, I hope you're happy with the fight you've created, Andrew, for a guy that's as funny as you are and we watch a couple couple, you've started a war, Andrew. I hope you understand the amount of pain you're creating on social media today. Anyways, he says what he says there at the bottom, Ben, Ben, Ben, wait a minute, and

Starting point is 00:53:17 then Candice responds, I would like to debate Ben Shapiro on Israel and the current definition of anti-Semitism. Can anybody make this happen? Ben responds back and he says, well, I actually sent you a message for us to do this on February 29th, but you never responded back or something like that. If you want to do it, let's do it Monday at Daily Wire headquarters. I think that's Ben's response. Sure, Candice, I texted you on February 29th offering this very thing. Let's do this on my show Monday at 5pm at our studio in Nashville, 90 minutes live stream."

Starting point is 00:53:47 Then she responds back and she says, I'm sure you can appreciate why I prefer to keep this off daily wire platform as well as true reason why we've never been able to make any discussions happen. Let's choose a neutral, trustworthy platform. I vote Patrick Bedavid. I know that guy. Yeah, and then he comes back and Ben says the following thing. Ben says, Rob, if you can pull his response to that. Candice, I can see why you'd want to hide

Starting point is 00:54:12 behind a moderator, particularly one who said we should rename our company the Daily Jewish Wire just yesterday. I said the Daily Israeli Wire, but it's fine. I'll say both of them. No. One-on-one, Monday, 5 p.m., we can sit down and have a healthy debate like adults and we'll live stream on X and YouTube, take it or leave it. As to the true reasons you didn't respond to my offer to sit down with you and discuss the issue publicly or privately in February, I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Okay, cool.

Starting point is 00:54:42 Let's keep going. So then the next thing she says, you can go back to the other one, Robin and back. Yeah, if you can go back to the next week, Candice Post. Anyways, they keep going back and forth. We even made an offer ourselves. A lot of names came up about on GoToOne lower than that. See what she's got that one. I'm not hiding behind a moderator. I'm just choosing out to bring guys to daily wire. You're rather typically removing PBD's words from proper context to make it seem as though he's baselessly attacking you. Rather, he offered free advice. The Daily

Starting point is 00:55:12 Wire would not take heat if they were open about their priorities. But I'll choose to be understanding regarding your exhaustive sensitivities to everyone everywhere. Would you prefer Charlie Kirk or Tim Kast? They keep going back and forth. Finally, Jeremy Boring gets some vote. I gave a message and we made our offer. Rob, how long is that video? If it's too long, don't play it. We made our offer on what we said and she retweeted that. Can you show what she says? Patrick Badevi just threw $250,000 for Lake and Riley's family to make this debate open. And yes, Ben Shapiro did take PBD's words completely out of context. There was zero malicious intent. I'm America first, so I'm in.

Starting point is 00:55:50 Amazing option to make this charitable. So we kind of wanted to bring this back to America, because Candice has three kids, Ben has four kids, I have four kids, we all live in America. It should be America first, not Iran first, not Armenia first, not Israel first. It should be America first. If you think it's Israel first, go to Israel. We all love America. We're all choosing to raise our kids here.

Starting point is 00:56:09 Jeremy Boring responds, and I think he was the one that was able to bring the whole thing together. It's Shabbat, but I think Ben was clear, one-on-one, in-person, Nashville Monday, 5pm, live stream on X and YouTube. I'll add, there will be no ads on video, no charge to watch it. No one cashes in. You debated Destiny on a show without a moderator less than a month ago and have debated plenty of people without a moderator on your show.

Starting point is 00:56:30 You asked for a debate. If you want it, come have it. Then Candice responds and says, you guys have known all along that I will be in London for two weeks, so you've known the schedule. You've known I'm in London. You've known for months I'm going to be the Daily Wire Employees Were Initiators Slater to be here. I certainly swing this virtually on Monday, one-on-one if you guys really just cannot wait for me to get back

Starting point is 00:56:49 But I'm refusing to allow this to happen on daily wire platform This request seems perfectly reasonable and understandably to everyone but daily wire Why is it weird then he finally breaks it down and he says this if you can go to Jeremy Boring's tweet That he has by the way Lex Friedman got involved Tim got involved Rogan didn't get involved, but they drop robin Rogan's name on there Jeremy boring. That's the one right there Yeah, I don't know your intent international travel schedule Candice. I know when you wanted to talk to someone in the past You've flown across the world to make it happen. He would know her travel schedule. You're her boss What do you mean you don't know?

Starting point is 00:57:25 But maybe if he doesn't know, it's your top two talent. Why would you not know that person's schedule? As a CEO, you should know where your top two talent is. You asked for a debate, Ben agreed to debate. You don't want it on Daily Wire Channel, fine. We can livestream it to your channels. You don't want to shoot it at Daily Wire Studio, fine. We'll rent a studio in Nashville.

Starting point is 00:57:46 You don't want Daily Wire crew, fine. We'll hire a local crew. You don't want a Daily Wire pay for it, fine. You're rich. You can pay for it. You don't want to do it Monday, fine. Let's, let us know how long you need to prepare. Let us know how long you need to prepare.

Starting point is 00:57:57 We will not agree to moderate it. No third party to put their finger on the scale. We will not agree to a virtual or edited video. Live in person, one on one. The rest of it is just noise. So now Candice then responds back to this and she says the last part, if you can go to it, which is I think go, I think that, no, not that one. I think that's the one. Yeah, that's the one right there. Bearing the odd insinuation that you didn't know your own employees were booked on international

Starting point is 00:58:23 flights to come join me exactly to film your platform. This is great. I fully accept. No moderator. I will get in touch privately to get the setup majorly." Great. They pulled it off. Good for you.

Starting point is 00:58:34 And by the way, hey, shout out to Jeremy Boring to do that. But Jeremy, you should have done this three months ago. Two months ago, man. This should have been set up together, but good for Jeremy for being able to ask the CEO of the company to say, guys, let's have the conversation here. We don't need to have another moderator from the outside be a part of this. Let's have the talk together. What are your thoughts on this whole challenge they've been facing as well as the Ben and the Candace conversation?

Starting point is 00:58:59 Can you go over that again? So she accepted. She accepted, yeah. Wow. Okay. So I'm not as dialed in as you guys are on this thing, but this is the first time I'm hearing about it, but it looks like it's a done deal. And I've had both of them on my show. I've had Candace, I've had Ben. I think they're both exceptionally talented. I usually don't get involved in conservative civil wars, and I hate the Israeli situation.

Starting point is 00:59:27 I mean, that is a very thorny situation to discuss. And although what Hamas did is horrific, obviously, but I think it's healthy, I guess, for the conservative movement to hash it out, to debate each other. If they want to have a debate over the definition of anti-Semitism. Fine. Have at it. I'll watch if I have time. You know, I got two shows. I have a book out at Four Kids, but I'll do the best I can. Vinny, thoughts? I don't know.

Starting point is 00:59:54 I mean, like you said, three months ago, this should have happened. It got ridiculous out of him. But I saw a video of, and this is going to the Israel situation that you brought up, Ben Shapiro, there's a video of him saying, somebody going to the Israel situation that you brought up, Ben Shapiro, there's a video of him saying, somebody asked him in like a live forum thing, I think it was at a college, like Ben, do you think the United States should get involved with anything with Israel? And Ben said something along the lines of, absolutely not.

Starting point is 01:00:17 Israel can take care of herself. And then cut two months later, he's like, no, when there's nuclear weapons or whatever, United States, of course we have to get this is it this is right here nope nope first of all Israel can take care of herself if Israel is forced to the wall the possibility of nuclear exchange is extremely high that is why it is very important that the United States provide the material to Israel this is going to my point to this this topic that you nailed to Jesse, you cannot, there's no winning in this debate, in this conversation.

Starting point is 01:00:51 If you care about innocent kids dying, you support Hamas. If you're pro-Israel, you're a Zionist, there's no, there's no even in the middle, because there's no winning in this situation. I'm just interested to see what anti-Semitism is in Ben's eyes, because as we saw when she was debating rabbis, she called Shmueli's daughter a hag, and this guy went into 17th century, you know that's anti-Semitic, she posted something, Christ is King. Oh, that's anti-Semitic. I could see if somebody's genuinely anti-Semitic, and they hate Jewish people, and they hate everything about them.

Starting point is 01:01:25 But to be searching and reaching and trying to grab them into it, I don't think it helps the conversation at all. It doesn't do anything. Well, you can't just trust any clip on the internet because what he was specifically talking about is American troops involved in the Israeli war, which there are none. So it wasn't getting involved. And to be clear on the funding from Israel, the United States gives Israel $3.3 billion a year, and it's in the form of foreign military financing, okay, which must be spent to purchase weapons. So it's like, here's money. And they built

Starting point is 01:01:57 the Iron Dome with this. I'm happy to see that Candice and Ben are going to have this discussion. I thought the video that you shot that you sent to them was typical PBD class act and fair. If PBD, I'm sorry, if Candice and Ben were going to have this conversation, there would have been no better moderator than PBD. Why? For one reason, he'd be fair to both sides and respect both sides. So Ben, as a Jew who supports a lot of the things you say, I have nothing to do with the daily wire. You could have not have gone wrong going with PBD

Starting point is 01:02:28 I'll say this last thing this whole term anti-semitism Dude, I don't know what semitism you might even be a semi we are so serious our son of an icon I'll congratulate you. Jews are running around being like hey, how you doing my semite? What we're talking about is Jewish hate. So, by the way, there's a difference between Israel, Jews, and Judaism. Israel is a country. Jews are a people and Judaism is a religion. You can criticize Israel all you want, just like you can criticize any country. You can't criticize or condemn their right to exist. So Jews have a little, you know, strong feelings on the whole genocide thing, especially when

Starting point is 01:03:14 the Harvard MIT pen presidents couldn't condemn. So I think it's a nuanced conversation. I'm happy to have them see them have this conversation. Criticize Israel just like you can be I'm an American I criticize the government all I want criticize Netanyahu criticize Benny Gantz criticize policies The the river to the sea this chant that people are saying that means eliminating The country and the people of Israel big difference Well, what so here's my thing that do you even know what caused them to get rid of Candace? What did

Starting point is 01:03:47 Candace do that you're talking about that had them go, she has to go. You know the answer to that? Stay tuned for the conversation that's coming up. I think you agree with the poll. The poll shows they think Candace is going to win 78% of the percentage of people. Wow. Well, because guess what she he's gonna bring I mean obviously he's gonna stand strong with the Israel I think he's gonna go 100% take that angle and the hate and all this of Adam was talking about she is gonna speak no by the way he's brilliant she's gonna spit facts to it she's never

Starting point is 01:04:18 said anything I think if I think if anybody's coaching either side, like if and not like either one, I don't need help from anybody. I think Ben has studied the history of where he's from his entire life. Just like when Putin sat down with Tucker, he started with a history lesson of Russia and Ukraine, right? And that's not- You think Candace is going to sit and not interrupt during a history lesson? No, no way.

Starting point is 01:04:44 No. But the difference is Putin is long-winded. not using candace is gonna sit and not interrupt during a hit real estate no correct but the difference is uh... to uh... uh... putin is long-winded ben shapiro's gonna give bomb home home and then the others can this is going to do the same i think it's going to be very

Starting point is 01:04:57 very uh... i think the world one because this is something everybody wants to see if it's going to be very interesting let me let me let me let's go to it though right so if there's no moderator both of these people speak a hundred miles a minute. For sure. Nobody speaks as fast as Ben. No one but she's not far behind. How is this gonna be a car crash for an hour? Very good. How's that gonna look? That's what we said yesterday Jesse unless somebody's there going okay wait a minute you have two minutes go wait a minute stop interrupting. It's gonna be a shit show

Starting point is 01:05:26 That's gonna be very difficult. I think they'll be professionals. I think they'll be professionals because they Well, by the way, if they don't it's a bad look for both of them So it's not like it's not gonna be good television. What's this just talking? You're right. What's the zero hedge? Did something with Alex Jones and? destiny who was it was it them that they did it? And it was, the feedback was, because if you have a person that is like an Alex, that is a pit bull, is gonna go, and if you can't stop and control, he's gonna go, right?

Starting point is 01:05:59 In this situation, they're both gonna be professionals. I actually think it's gonna be good, and I'm looking forward to it, but it would obviously be easier when there's a referee today right before here I went to the game and shout out to Dilly boy Dilly hit a home run I went I'm gonna sue I record the whole thing about baby. He hits a home run and I come here But while I'm there I asked this this one of the fathers I said hey man Why is the referee standing behind the pitcher?

Starting point is 01:06:27 Why is he not behind the catcher? He says this is why the game started 15 minutes late because the other referee didn't show up We only have one referee every game needs a referee every sport needs a referee businesses need referees and debates need referees I agree. That's all it is and and by the way the whole purpose of a moderate. I remember one time Dershowitz and And by the way, the whole purpose of a moderator, I remember one time Dershowitz and RFK got a hold of me four years ago. They said, we're doing a debate about the vaccine, and Dershowitz's position was the government can force you to take the vaccine according to this. I don't know if you remember this.

Starting point is 01:06:55 This was like three and a half years ago. And RFK is like, hell no. They called and they said, we want you to be the moderator. And then I was the moderator. Out of the two hours that they spoke you know how much I spoke maybe less than three minutes Because because it was like boom jumping out they go 20 minutes boom jumping out they go 20 minutes So that would be the case remember the first I believe it was Trump Biden debate with Chris Wallace the moderator Yeah, I do I do little. Little point. Little biased. That could happen.

Starting point is 01:07:26 I mean, anything could happen. That's the risk. By the way, the Candice Destiny debate was an hour after the PBD town hall Cuomo Candice debate and the first conversation they had on there was, oh, how you doing? Where you coming from? She goes, oh, I just did the PBD podcast. And she goes, Destiny, cuz he's been on your show My show multiple times that's he goes. You know what PBD Adam they're fair like so but

Starting point is 01:07:52 Wait a minute. No. No, he said he likes you. He doesn't like me Team Adam and shout out to team Adam and destiny you guys I'm on team fairness and conversation No, but I know what you're saying, but that's what Candice. Jesse before this Candice been implosion a Month ago two months ago It was Ben versus Tucker and they were going back and forth and our friend Dave Rubin was trying to moderate a conversation shout out to Dave.

Starting point is 01:08:25 Now it's Ben Candice, but you said earlier you don't like to see conservatives attacking each other. It breaks my heart. Where do you stand on Tucker and Ben and these types of conversations? I haven't followed that. Tucker's your guy, right? Yeah, I love Tucker. I haven't followed that beef either as much.

Starting point is 01:08:40 It's hard to get in the weeds when it comes to this stuff. I like making the left fight each other. I don't like when we fight each other. I like us unified. Although, it's healthy when we fight. I don't know if it's a good look. You know, they are totally motivated, the left. They are a hundred percent a mob. When they're unified and they stay on message message they just steamroll and anything goes and the ends justify the means if the republican movement or the conservative movement is constantly fighting over each other which is fine healthy in a primary if you're not going to monetize it what are we doing here I don't know I like aiming I like aiming the weapons at the other side

Starting point is 01:09:28 Theoretically not literally yeah, but I do I do we had a big election coming up. So this is fun. I like watching it's entertaining I just I just feel like I'd like to train our focus in other places well You know and this is a personal be this is personal yeah, of course. Cause Tucker is starting his new company. Right. It's a bit of a jockeying for market share. So speaking of infighting, you know, your Fox news, you know what's going on around the country. The establishment, MAGA, rhinos, like where do you see this in fighting? You see Marjorie Taylor Greene, Mike Johnson, you know, the house, the speaker, Kevin McCarthy, there's

Starting point is 01:10:11 going to be in fighting regardless. We were at the event with Matt Gaetz. I don't think this is going to stop. Where do you, where do you, as someone who has very good perspective, where do you see the establishment Republican party, the Reagan, McConnell side of things versus the new king in town, Trump? They don't have the margins in the house to be fighting like they're fighting. What is it? One, two, three, four? It's a few seats.

Starting point is 01:10:39 So if one guy says, Johnson, you're out, that's it. Or girl, Margie Taylor Greene. Or girl. You're done. And then so they have no control. Johnson you're out that's it or girl Margie Taylor green or girl you know that you're done and then so they have no control and and then that's how you get all of this funding for all of these wars and you know you can say what you want about Ukraine but you know you're not gonna get anything done maybe we don't want anything done but it doesn't seem to me like the establishment is feeling confident these days.

Starting point is 01:11:05 It feels like the MAGA movement or the populist movement has taken full control over the party. But you still need to maintain electability and establishment candidates in Senate races, because in certain races, you might not be able to win in a statewide race with a full-throated mega conservative. You might have to run someone a little bit more to the center. And that's something for Mitch McConnell to figure out and that's something for the donors to figure out. But I like winning and I'd rather win than lose honorably or purely.

Starting point is 01:11:46 I like majorities in the House and the Senate. I like the White House. And so I wanna do whatever I can to make sure we have a unified party going into this election, because if we're not unified, we're gonna lose. What's your solution for a unified, because you like winning.

Starting point is 01:12:03 I think spending's the big problem. I think spending and immigration, there's a lot of knucklehead Republicans that don't care. They'll just spend the money and they'll bankrupt the country and they're okay with open borders. And that's a huge problem, but they hide. And I think there's more of them than we even realized. Really? Oh, like big names, influential names? I think, I think almost a majority of House Republicans Don't care about deficits and you would have to agree with the deficits for sure I'm spending in the deficits and I'm on the when they got a shot to build the wall under Trump when they have majorities

Starting point is 01:12:37 They didn't build the wall Trump had to Scream bloody murder to get that funding. It was only 2 billion now They're throwing around 80 billion over here, 90 billion over here. I think the donor class and a lot of these corporations, they love the open border. I mean look at these jobs reports. A lot of these jobs are migrant jobs and they put downward pressure on wages. You bring them in. They're filling up hotels. If you're a hotel owner in Manhattan, you have fully booked rooms from now until next year Yep, so it's just new customers to the corporate class and a lot of the grassroots Republican that I know and love

Starting point is 01:13:15 They don't like it and we did the math that Patrick we do the math How much was it to build the wall like how Egypt has their wall? Yeah, Egypt did it for? 450 million dollars we could do it million. We could do it here. We could do it for five billion. Five billion. We even said because America always pays more, because you know in the military, you used to all be like, this is $20,

Starting point is 01:13:32 but we pay $200 for it. We could do it for $20 billion, no problem. Like the most secure, Jesse, even underground, so there's no problem. At 20 billion. At 20 billion. But you, and I'm. But my concern with what you're saying is Jesse when you're saying this are you saying?

Starting point is 01:13:48 big name Republicans that are that they don't care about people crossing the border because So the so the number that I saw the other day on China I'm sure you've seen this number on the number of people are now that are crossing the border from China Rob Vinny, I think you sent me this tweet, so let me just read these numbers here. I got it somewhere here. So in 2001, it almost needs to be in a way, Rob, that people can see it. Let me show this. Yeah, right there.

Starting point is 01:14:17 2001, we had 342 Chinese immigrants, illegal immigrants, crossing the border that got arrested. Let me say that one more time. 2021, 342, 342 people the entire year. 2022, it's six X's to 1987, a year later. 2023 goes to 24,125 and 2024, just Q1 is at 22,233 in Q1. That's an increase of 6,300% in three years. Wow. Did you just do the math in your head?

Starting point is 01:14:59 No, no, 6,300% in three years. Absolute insanity. So even for Republicans to be like Do you sit there and say well? I would say all the 50,000 people that came here a hundred percent of our noble people they have no bad intentions They probably love America or really well if you know anything about China if you're a Chinese national and you come to the United States You're beholden to the CCP if they tap you in California California and they say you're gonna go spy on that naval base, you're gonna go spy on that naval base or your family back in Beijing.

Starting point is 01:15:30 What is that called? Is there something for that? The Chinese government uses Chinese Americans who have immigrated here as intelligence assets. They can lean on you and you've seen it in college campuses. You've seen it in corporate America. There's tons of espionage in corporate America, they're stealing trade secrets constantly. It's a huge threat and I don't want to blast Republicans whole scale but watch if Trump wins reelection and he starts deporting. You're gonna see a lot of Republicans go soft. You think so? You're gonna see a lot. They get squeamish think so? You're going to see a lot.

Starting point is 01:16:05 They get squeamish. They get confronted by Washington Post, Reuters, Associated Press, CNN reporters in the halls of Congress. Don't you think it's mean to be breaking up families? This is like the Nazism. This isn't Trump a horrible person? That's what they're going to do and they're going to get squeamish. But I think Trump's going to come back and say, I'm sorry, what are you talking about?

Starting point is 01:16:24 He's going to say that. Yeah. But maybe not everybody in the House is gonna be that strong. Well, sometimes if the number one is such a big driver, a great number one driver knows how to corner and pin people into a decision. He knows how to corner you into a decision where if Obama has the record for the most people ever being deported by a president two terms and it's not even close, what do they call him again? The deporter in chief. The deporter in chief.

Starting point is 01:16:52 Yeah, Trump's always going to go back to that. What are you talking about? You're a hero. Obama, here's what he did. So if Trump decides to deport, I guarantee you no one is going to be more scared about their legacy than Obama because Trump's going to say that 24-7, constantly talking about Obama is the deporter in chief. Who said the article, by the way? Was it New York Times or was it ABC?

Starting point is 01:17:16 I actually want to know who labeled that. Who labeled it? If you type in deporter in chief, go to news, go to news right there and see who labeled. It was either CNN or New York Times that did it. I thought it was activists. I thought it was immigration activists. Well, ABC is right there. Obama has deported more people than anybody else.

Starting point is 01:17:41 I want to know who coined the phrase deporter in chief. The President Obama has been referred to by immigration. Immigration groups. That's what I thought. I thought it was his. Pat, while you're looking, just a couple questions. They're saying the numbers are always going to be low. In the four years that Biden's going to hopefully, God willing, he's done, 20 million, maybe

Starting point is 01:18:00 more illegals will be in our country. Trump comes in. How do you even start a process to get rid of 20 million in which they don't have IDs? They're just floating around nobody knows what they are. How do you even fathom starting a process? It's going to be the greatest Great question, I don't know. I don't know if he knows but you have to start with the criminals Yeah, and so right now Joe Biden's not even Detaining anybody ice is not allowed to do their job So no one's really even been deported either and if he wants to deport people back to Venezuela

Starting point is 01:18:35 Venezuela is not even accepting the people he is flying migrants from Venezuela here They're committing crimes and when we try to deport them Venezuela says no mas. They're too crazy for us. It's right. So we've been totally disrespected but in terms of the question, he's going to have to get granular. I mean on the ground, county by county, work with the sheriffs.

Starting point is 01:18:59 It is going to have to, it's going to be gritty and you're never going to get them all out but you have to start with the criminal. I want to go to this time. I'm going to come to you. Here's the article we found. Rob, I just send it to you. Can you pull up the date at the top? This is the lady who made that coin, that phrase, by the way, coin the phrase.

Starting point is 01:19:13 So this is March 14, 2014. Okay, so we're talking over 10 years ago and go all the way at the top, go the other way. Yeah, go all the way at the top. One more. and go all the way at the top gold the other way yet gold with the top lower on more nclr head obama the porter in chief she coined the phrase the porter in chief and has been on till today by the way somebody manectomy before if you've never downloaded the app manect you get to ask questions I got nearly 50 minutes in the last 24 hours is coming

Starting point is 01:19:41 through right now on fire and manect is growing growing exponentially. We gotta get Jesse on there. Yeah, so this is Manect. If you have any questions, you can get on Manect. There's 7,000 experts and influencers to ask questions from. But somebody on Manect asked me a question yesterday, and he says, hey Pat, here's what I got. I have the plan on how to deport 10 million people.

Starting point is 01:19:58 He sends the entire plan to the T on how they're gonna work 24-7 on teams of five each truck that he had fits 50 to 80 people on there food kitchen hot food person sleeping building a bed and you have to work 24-7 of teams of four and five and each work 10 day shifts okay and they go and then they switch and then they switch with seven 700 trucks I believe. And this would be a project that would take many, many years to go through. But this is the way they would go to it.

Starting point is 01:20:30 And he's kind of given his presentation. And anyways, I had the conversation with a couple of different people. But this the point. The point is, OK, so come deport me. Hey, we're sending you back home. Oh, you know what? Oh, sorry, it don't work out. You know what I'm saying? All the money I give to the coyote and all the people that came and took my kids and we came

Starting point is 01:20:49 Through here. No problem. Send me back home. I'll follow the rules It's not how this is gonna be our gonna be TV cameras at every deportation Choke point and they're gonna be filming these ICE agents going door to door doing whatever they'd how Terrible is that going to look? And they're going to exploit that and it's going to look awful and people are going to be upset, people are going to be fighting back. It is probably, that's why, but we have to do it, but that's why you can't let them

Starting point is 01:21:17 in in the first place, because once they're here, it's very hard to get them. Well, let me tell you, here's what's worse. If a 9-11 type of event takes place the next 12 months, America will flip very quickly. Whenever that position changes and all of a sudden we have a crisis of the 9-11 type of magnet, I hope we don't get to that point, but when people get a little bit too sloppy and they forget how fickle life is and how quickly can come and directly impact you and I, and then you sit there and say, no, no, no, I don't agree with that. We have to flip very quickly and go the other way.

Starting point is 01:21:51 Tom, your thoughts on this? Tom Hichman I'm sitting here patiently boiling. I'm about to have an aneurysm. The whole issue that I think that people are failing to understand, that you have to be understanding what's going on, Venezuela is emptying prisons and they are sending criminals here. They're sending the worst. It's true. This is no different than what Castro did emptying his prisons when he absolutely flanked Jimmy Carter on the Muriel boat lift and just polluted Miami with criminals. Not people.

Starting point is 01:22:23 Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masters, yearning to be free, that says on Statue of Liberty, this was a criminal element. And now Venezuela is telling not just the United States, but the United States sent a bunch to Mexico and tried to basically, I guess, commingle criminals, and Mexico sent a flight to Venezuela, and Venezuela gave Mexico the finger and sent them back.

Starting point is 01:22:44 So how do you take the criminals that are here that are worse off with? sent a flight to Venezuela and Venezuela gave Mexico the finger and sent them back. So how do you take the criminals that are here that are worse off with? Jesse, you're right. It's going to look terrible. It's going to look really, really bad. But the worst of it that's here is we are bringing huge numbers of criminal element that are around an honest family that did give coyotes money and came here the wrong way.

Starting point is 01:23:04 But they're just looking for a better life, but they did it wrong and we got to figure it out but you've looked at the question is where do you send the criminals to go back when you have a venezuela doesn't want to take on five and so we're in trumps going to be able to make venezuela take a back by get the the current guy i mean and the the current president really one flight of stairs in a slip from an even worse president, is that you need to have balls in the White House that is able to make that decision.

Starting point is 01:23:31 And I think if you're listening and you're paying attention and you live in friggin' Omaha, Nebraska, this is your problem as much as is everybody else's problem. You gotta get behind this thing because the deportation does not mean spirited. It's about safety in America. It's about doing it right. There's no such thing as an American race. We all come from somewhere, and that somewhere is— But Jesse's right, though, Tom.

Starting point is 01:23:54 What Jesse's talking about is the fact that they're going to play to the heart, and they're going to play that towards mothers, and they're going to look at the screen, and they're going to say, I want you to see this video. Look at the look on the kid's face. Hey, to all the mothers out there, they have a child. How do you feel if you're separated from a kid like this? How long could you go like this? You know who did this? Trump. This is who did it. And this is what the Republicans want. And look what they're doing. They've been doing this. And the stuff like this that I see is the stuff that I saw that happened in Germany

Starting point is 01:24:19 and this. Is that the country we're becoming? Are you comfortable representing the world that this is who? that's the spin job? That's gonna be a member Elion Gonzalez, of course Yeah, billions of Elion Gonzalez in the arms of the mom and the agent with the gun You know what? I hear a funny backstory about that. You know how that's just a picture. It's just a picture Yeah, there was a I believe was a CBS Photographer there and he had his camera, and he was supposed to roll video of this.

Starting point is 01:24:47 You know what he did? He double punched. Oh, wow. He hit it twice, and all he got was a half second frame. That's just a frame grab. Rob, what year was that? The ridiculous cameraman ruining the best moment of his life. Did he get fired?

Starting point is 01:25:02 Yeah, of course. Of course he got fired. And so that's why you don? Yeah, of course. Of course he got fired. So that's why you don't have video of that. Okay. Well, ironically enough, Alien Gonzales, I grew up in Miami. I remember the story very well. He's now running for some sort of political figure in Cuba, ironically, we put up Alien Gonzales. Look, born and raised in Miami, I have so many Cuban friends, Venezuelan friends, Colombian friends, Brazilian friends, Mexican friends, Haitian friends, everything.

Starting point is 01:25:27 I think, and this far be it for me to give Trump advice, because there is a criminal element to all this. Releasing of the prisons, we saw it in the 80s. The movie Scarface was based on this exact premise. But lo and behold, Miami is literally built by Cubans, some Jews too. The best city in the country at this point. Hello? So at some point, whether they're illegal, legal, we're going to have to ingratiate them

Starting point is 01:25:51 into society. So I don't like villainizing immigrants. We are a country of immigrants, but we're also a country of laws and rules. So my advice to Trump, because he's going to use the rhetoric and rightfully so, the open border situation is a shit show. But if and when he's elected, there's a difference between running and leading. When he's here, he's going to have to have empathy and say, I was elected to clean up this border, to clean up this mess and everyone can't stay.

Starting point is 01:26:22 I'm sorry. Well, the word, they're going to have to go and and you're gonna see some images that are unsavory I don't think he's gonna say I was elected to get these people out yeah but that way and you know that but Adam you said the word illegal yeah exactly everybody keeps forgetting this word guys it's not like we're not delusional illegal means you're not it's the law okay and I'm, I don't even give that buffer. You gotta go. Like, you gotta go. And by the way, this is my thing, because I'm a freaking patron, I'm an American.

Starting point is 01:26:51 One person dying is too much. Mayorkas, Biden, the whole administration, blood all over the hands. One person, Lakeland Riley, we mentioned earlier, she's murdered by a guy that doesn't belong here. End of story, bro. It's over. And guy that doesn't belong here. End of story, bro. It's over. And Pat, you made a point. It's, God forbid, one of these 9-11 moments happens. We would hope that it's gonna make Americans go, you see, it was a border. What I'm worried about is, if something like that happens, what happened

Starting point is 01:27:17 on 9-11? Nobody, everybody just united as one and it was love. We've talked about it. That's what I'm worried about. I want people to no no no how the f did that happen and right then and there be like oh It's a China hack or whatever the hell. I want you to play this. I'm with you But that's an expensive. I want you to check for unity I want you to play this clip here and by the way if Trump wins this guy is gonna be back running the border and And I want to remind you guys who this guy is when he sat down with AOC and AOC tried to grill him yeah and watch what happened to AOC when she tried to grill a man who knows the law watch it's just

Starting point is 01:27:54 entertaining go ahead of the many that you recommended you recommended family separation I recommended zero tolerance which includes family separation the same as is whatever you a citizen parent gets arrested with a child bartender zero tolerance was interpreted as the policy that separated children from their if I get arrested for DUI and I have a young child in a car I'm gonna be separated also police officer in New York and I arrested a father for domestic violence I separated that

Starting point is 01:28:25 with all to respect Legal asylees are not charged with any crime what? When you're in the country legally is violation eight United States code 1325 seeking asylum is Legal if you want to seek asylum and go through the port of entry do the legal way the Attorney General's in the United States has made that clear. So this guy, Tom Homan, is one of the most feared men when it comes down to this because he knows the law and to be a guy like that you have to be as strong as he is to run it. If Trump gets elected this guy's protecting your border and I think

Starting point is 01:29:03 like think about what kind of a personality you want working security at your bar. Then think about what kind of a, you know, security guard you want running a nightclub that has 2,000 people coming in. Then think about what kind of security guard you want running a nightclub that top-notch celebrities and Hollywood and all, you need a real one. Then think about what kind of a security guard you want protecting a community Bel Air where famous people live and then think about what kind of security guard you want you get the idea

Starting point is 01:29:30 where I'm going with this then think about what kind of a security guard you want protecting your border that's the guy next story next story is Baron Trump so if you can pull up this picture Rob that went viral with Justin Waller posted it. This is the picture that was posted. Can you go to his tweet? Go to Justin Waller's Twitter account. If you go to Justin Waller's Twitter account, right there, he posts this picture, which gets how many views does it get?

Starting point is 01:29:59 Go to the bottom. 42 million. Holy shit, it gets 42 million views. So this is a picture of Kobe to the left. And then you got Justin with the chest hair to the second to the left. He looks like a Brad Pitt guy, good guy. Then you got the short guy in the middle, Aaron Trump. Yeah, six, seven, okay?

Starting point is 01:30:20 Six, seven. Then it's me, then it's Bo. And Bo and Baron are best friends. I think Bo's father is a senator, ex-senator, I believe. Go to the- Missouri, yep. Rob, can you go back to the reaction people had towards this picture, the guy that reacted to it with clothes?

Starting point is 01:30:37 If you can just go to my account, you'll be able to see him at the top, how he broke down everybody. I mean, this was like a clinic, what this guy did. Go a little bit more right there, right there. Okay so this guy, Derek Gray, just click on his account. Oh this guy. Yeah so this guy keep going down until you see him breaking all of it down. I mean the feedback he gives, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. Let's see hopefully this guy doesn't tweet like 700 times a day. Apparently he keep going keep going keep going keep going

Starting point is 01:31:06 All right, so he's one of those okay right there here. We go break it down go to it and Go to the bottom where he's commenting on everybody. Oh, this isn't the one you got to go back one before this and Keep going you'll see it. You'll see Okay, so here goes so he comments here finally jacket and trousers should always work together to form harmonious hole. When trousers are too low, rise and tapered like this, they look at odds with the coat. Okay, cool. Let's see the next one.

Starting point is 01:31:36 So this is Patrick's outfit here is pretty good except for critical part. Ready Patrick? Listen up. The jacket's collar should always hug your neck. What is the matter with you? Why a jacket isn't hugging a person's neckline go a little lower Let's see what he does he doesn't hold back on anybody by the way keep going keep going keep going okay here We go he goes after shoes although. You don't always have to choose classic footwear

Starting point is 01:32:02 Doing so will provide you with the guardrails against falling into stuff like this. Two-tone tassel, driving mocks, and double monks. Anyway, so okay keep going to the next one. Let's see what he does next. Keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. Okay, here we go with the jackets. The shoulders and sleeves on the purple suit are too small, making the person look like he's about to burst out of his coat. The second coat doesn't even look like it can be fastened. Both men are wearing trousers that are too narrow and tapered. Okay, all right, so listen, he's a guy that people listen to when it comes onto the space.

Starting point is 01:32:36 But let's go back to this picture. So I'm doing a podcast. I get an email saying, Barron Trump wants to have dinner with you because he follows the content. Look, okay, Sam, can you verify verify this Sam makes a few phone calls? No, it's real that's the day we did a podcast with Stephen a smith So I said I won't be able to make it because we're doing dinner. They asked seven o'clock. They said they changed They're willing to do 830. I said okay

Starting point is 01:32:56 We finished with Stephen a me you and Tom we had up there Tom It says there mean you drive up there right with the top down and your hair is all my hair is like a Crazy person we get there there and Baron comes out and we go sit down and have dinner with Baron. Now you got to realize, I'm so curious who this kid is, right? He just turned 20, 18 years old, March 20th. And so you're watching him. So what are you going to be doing? You're going to go to school, you're going to do this, and he's kind of going through the whole process. What he's not going to be doing, what he's going to be doing. I've never seen Tom laugh this hard for an hour and a half.

Starting point is 01:33:30 Tom is one of those guys that if we go to dinner, no one's going to talk more than Tom. And Tom can go. He's a professional talker, and he's going to give you a lot of history lessons, everything, because he's so well-read. He's a modern-day Wikipedia, the living Wikipedia. It's Tom Ellsworth. If Wikipedia goes out of business, we're all safe here. We're good. Check Tom. Tom didn't say a single word. Nothing, Jesse. For an hour and a half, and we just watched Baron run dinner with stories,

Starting point is 01:33:59 entertainment, everything. What was your experience watching that? Because, mind you, he's 18. You know what I was doing when I was 18't need 18, you know, I was when I was 18 I was in the military like a freaking maniac witty smart Hilarious, you know pilot like he was smart on politics. He's like, you know, everybody's always gonna fight. There's left. There's right I think one of the hardest I laughed is when he goes like Mike Cuz all of a sudden the music just comes on loud, right Jesse? And we're like, what the hell is that? He's like, my freaking dad's the DJ. All you see is the president on his iPad, the lights in his face. Nothing compares to you.

Starting point is 01:34:33 And I love it because you look back and it's Donald Trump, the light on his thing. And Baron's like, guys, I'll be in my room and the house is shaking like my dad plays the music loud but going back to Baron like Like what what a good like head on his shoulders professional than at the end like he was literally he was like Vinny Whenever you guys want to come dinner whenever you want to come blah blah blah you hit me up. He goes You know what I like, you know amazing amazing one of the stories he told so I don't know who starts telling the story saying Yeah, you know my my dad comes from trailer homes and but it was both Amazing amazing one of the stories he told so I don't know who starts telling the story saying yeah You know my my dad comes from trailer homes and but it was both

Starting point is 01:35:08 I was like yeah on Colby and this and this yeah, and everybody's kind of talking about their sob story Yeah, and embarrass like yeah same here I mean I I was born in a penthouse of a building all the way at the top life was hard Talk about being fed by a silver spoon. What would ever eat food with a silver spoon? Mine was gold. That was my question for you, Vinny. It was really interesting. You would think, what was making me laughing was just honest life anecdotes about family. And it was just cracking me up. He was a kid. He wasn't snide. He wasn't telling dirty jokes. He was very, very balanced talking about getting ready

Starting point is 01:35:47 to go to college, talking about where he could make shift colleges if his dad's job changes, and things like this. And just going through it, it was cracking me up. Then he was there with a buddy, his friend, Bo. They were talking about their little life adventures together and how- Bo broke it, bro.

Starting point is 01:36:03 We don't need to go into all the stories, but- No, no, no, I gotta go into the detail. But, you know, Bo gets hurt and he's talking about, adventures together and But you know Bo gets hurt and he's talking about you know going through things like that, but I found an incredibly balanced engaging very witty funny guy, and I really came away Really like how tough love me it was yeah, I was busting up sharp funny sarcastic, tough, not weak, like hey. Grounded. You know, they said the other day, it's officially a fair game to come after me. I don't care, good, do it. I get it, they've gone and done it to every kid.

Starting point is 01:36:36 What's the difference? Why should I? It was very interesting the way he handled himself. It was very, very interesting to see, because think about it, that he has a head on his shoulders like that. Look at what he has to go through for the rest of his life. Look at what the left and the media and everybody has done to his father, to that name for the rest of his life.

Starting point is 01:36:52 He's, you know, obviously, he's very true. And Jen said the best thing. Jen said, which one of the kids has spent the most time around Trump? It could be him. I think so. Because all the other kids spend time around Donald when he was building 40 year old, 50 year olds. This is different when you're at this phase and you're around your dad at this, like at the thick of things you're living at the White

Starting point is 01:37:16 House. It's like a whole different place. He's the only one that lived in the White House. Let me ask from a comedian perspective, because you guys came back here like this guy is hilarious. I was like, stop it. By by the way shout out to Justin Wallace my buddies good to see that. He actually buttoned up one of his but nice And I saw Colby at the heat game the other day great, dude, we'll be the G You know the difference between a fake laugh when a boss tells a joke And a real laugh your comedian. We had a comedy as well Legit funny or fake funny? Adam, Adam, legit to where it's Patrick, Tom, I can't really see Tom, I know he's dying

Starting point is 01:37:51 laughing and then Barron, and you know me, I don't laugh to laugh, I'm piecing it together and I was like, holy shit, he's funny and goody for this? Quick, there wasn't a second- Have you met him, Jesse? I haven't met him, but I've heard some stories and When this is over, I'm gonna tell you one of the funniest baron Trump's art Oh wait, I cannot tell it here because it's gonna it's too good, but I'll tell you later So Vinny who's funnier Baron Trump or Tom Ellsworth to the funniest guys. I know tough

Starting point is 01:38:21 Oh my god, I can't put him on the spotlight. I can't. That's embarrassing, but you know. I mean, you talk about a guy that's a professional comedian in Silicon Valley for engineers and colleagues. Bro, they still talk about him in Silicon Valley. He's the word. They talk about the biz doc. Exactly.

Starting point is 01:38:36 87%? To understand Tom's jokes, you need a minimum of an MBA. If you don't have an MBA, Tom's joke requires, he doesn't do jokes for a bachelor's degree. Let alone people without a degree. Are you kidding me? His jokes are required. Because Tom will tell you after the joke. You're staring at Tom, he's like, you don't get it? I'm like, Tom, I joined the military. Watch you go to school for eight years to understand that joke.

Starting point is 01:38:58 You know what's interesting? One of the things Barron said, and Jesse, I want to ask you something. One of the things Barron said was, hey, I'm 18 years old now, so now I can get arrested for things. There's a lot of things that go on. But I know that now the media is going to, that certain outlets in the media are going to take their gloves off and do things. During the Obama administration,

Starting point is 01:39:15 that administration was very protective of Sasha Malia. And we've seen things where people, reporters have indicated, you have no idea they actually threatened You know to pull press corps coverage from a network if some network person at the Milwaukee affiliate You know covered or had pictures of the Obama kids. Did you hear that when you were at Fox? Was there was there a real chokehold being put on the media? Don't touch our girls. That's with everybody, but that's with the Bush daughters too. And they probably partied harder than Malia and Sasha.

Starting point is 01:39:52 And they were a little bolder. And so, yeah. And so yes, of course. And they were that way for Chelsea as well. And you always have to be like that. You have to be really, really hardcore when it comes to protecting your family in the White House when that kind of press scrutiny is just exacting and could be damaging to the children. Jesse, how long have you been with Fox now?

Starting point is 01:40:14 My whole life. Wow. Since I was 23. Get out of here. Wow. Yeah. 23. I started in the basement of Fox making minimum wage, working Tuesdays through Sundays, 12 p.m. to midnight.

Starting point is 01:40:29 I sat next to a girl named Candy, who dotted her eye with a heart. Oh, I love her already. And I was just doing probably arts and crafts. They'd hand me a tape, I'd get a Sharpie, I'd write the name on it, and I'd hand it to somebody else. That was it. Wow. And then I found out that there was an opening on the O'Reilly Factor, and I said, I need

Starting point is 01:40:49 to get out of here. And I got an interview, and this was when he was doing radio, and I go in during a commercial break, and he looks at my resume. What's your dad do? I told him what my dad did. And then I think he forgot I was there And for about 30 seconds, it was silent and then I was like Bill I read your latest book. It was amazing and all of a sudden he perks up and he says you seem like a smart kid You start just like this like the more How well the did you get to spend time with Roger Ailes? How well did you know Roger? No, I didn't know him as well as you're alluding to but I He didn't make you a

Starting point is 01:41:34 Twirl so how did you make the world for the port take for sir? I have a question on government, but Dude respect to you. You've been there for 20 plus years. How many it's been? Yeah, about 20 years respect to you So, you know Roger died in what 2017? I believe so So, I mean I watched that movie Pat made me actually watch the the movie divide and conquer It's a must watch for everybody. It's a ridiculous movie The the impact this guy had in American in the world making Fox News the number one cable news Station in the country making Fox News the number one cable news station in the country, it's ridiculous. You know, pre-Roger, post-Roger, what's going on there?

Starting point is 01:42:11 So like, the names that have come through there, your guy Bill O'Reilly, Megyn Kelly, Tucker, now you have yourself, Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Gutfeld, who likes to pick on you from time to time. How would you say the current lineup is in historically as far as where it stands based on the test of time with the other big names we said? And where do you see the future of Fox? Because we see people cutting the cable, cutting the cords, people are getting older, they're getting grayer. What's your...

Starting point is 01:42:42 Well, the cutting cords is above my pay grade. I don't really know, but they have a plan for it. They won't tell me what the plan is, but I'm sure they have a plan. It's been a very successful company for a very long time. We make billions of dollars. So that's not something that we're concerned about. But I was there in 2003 starting out and it was O'Reilly was at 8 o'clock Hannity and combs, you know, remember we had a debate show yeah, and you don't see that anymore and then you had Greta van Susteren and It was a different vibe back then because there was no internet. You didn't have Twitter. You didn't have podcasts there was really no social media, so if a

Starting point is 01:43:22 Newsmaker or a celebrity or a politician wanted to get the word out about something, they had to go on television. They couldn't just go on their own platform and promote it on Instagram or anything. They couldn't go to the thousands of podcasts they have. They had to go on the O'Reilly factor. And so we would get, I I mean we had Diddy You know we had we had people we had Bush we had Obama Bill O'Reilly interviewed Obama Multiple times that doesn't happen anymore And you saw they always had this tradition at the Super Bowl when the president at halftime or beforehand or whatever Goes and does the interview with the company that has it Biden stopped doing it and And so you don't

Starting point is 01:44:06 have those kinds of things anymore now, I think. So Riley left in 2017, they bumped Tucker up, and then move Laura Ingraham, I think, to 10 o'clock. And then the five took off, and the five just been incredibly successful. And then Tucker left and, and I guess I was next in line and it's just an honor to be at the 8 o'clock slot. Well let's freaking frame ask the question and he's got a piss. This is three podcasts. Let me tell you gotta go see your prostate guy. Yo that's a prostate problem. Okay let's go to the next story. But by the way what a sick story to go from the bottom to where you are now. That's pretty insane. Like I said i'd just good at not getting fired

Starting point is 01:44:46 but literally from the basement of the but but you know what though to me uh... like when you hear stories of the empires that were billed capitalism back in the days you know mcdonald's and all these guys they used to say the guy that eventually runs the company later on comes from the bottom and makes its way to the top these are by far the best stories to hear about companies Nowadays, it's hard to find guys like Jesse that stick around and eventually get their opportunity

Starting point is 01:45:13 You do your part you keep improving you see when things open up you keep getting there You keep showing up you keep doing your thing and then all of a sudden Holy shit, you're the face and then what happened this all of a sudden boom I just did my part and eventually got my opportunity.ats on all that. Thank you very much. Truly It's a big deal really appreciate it And and I want to wrap up with California and then we can finish off and talk about the increase in Prosthetic cancer and guys in the early 40s that are single, but we'll skip that part But but let's talk about California. So here we go with California

Starting point is 01:45:41 So California businesses take on Gavin Newsom over tax hikes. This is kind of interesting. Tom, I want to come to you first and then I'll come to Jesse about the restaurant stuff as well. So California businesses take on Gavin Newsom. A coalition led by California Business Roundtable is actively challenging Governor Newsom and Democratic lawmakers over tax hikes in California to propose Taxpayer Protection Act requiring a two-thirds voter majority for local tax increase and rollback recent hikes reflects a significant shift akin to 1978's Proposition 13 Rob Lapsley's

Starting point is 01:46:17 president of Roundtable emphasized the urgency. The business community is fed up. About times you guys did something, and they recognize that if they don't do it, nobody will. Proponents argue escalating taxes are driving businesses away. Governor Newsom, however, warns of dire consequence, stating the proposal would decimate funding for basic services such as trash collection and firefighting, highlighting potential budgeting hurdles.

Starting point is 01:46:43 Local officials fear the initiative's passage could revoke crucial tax increases like Walnut Creek's half-cent sales tax, endangering projects like additional police officers and library hours. While this is happening, New York Post comes with a story. Two days, same day, Governor Newsom, the restaurant he owns, offering jobs at $16 an hour despite new state laws are $20 an hour for workers. So Plump Jack Cafe, a restaurant partly owned by Gavin Newsom, faces backlash for advertising a part-time bussor position at $16 an hour despite the new state law mandating a $20 hourly wage

Starting point is 01:47:26 for fast food workers. Despite Newsom's disengagement from day-to-day operations following his election as governor in 2018, his business' jobs listing drew criticism from Republican Assembly member Joe Patterson who questioned the inconsistency pointing out the $20 wage requirement while fast food chain like Burger King in LA raise minimum menu prices to accommodate the increase, the wage gap raises concerns about affordability, etc., etc. Tom, your thoughts on what's going on with Gavin Newsom in California?

Starting point is 01:47:53 Well, look, bad policies have consequences and bad leadership, sometimes it comes home to roost. We know, at least half of America is willing to admit, Gavin Newsom is a duplicit politico coming out of the Pelosi crime family who desperately wants to run for president. And he's been trying to make himself the shadow over the last year, just in case somebody falls down the stairs. And now we find out that he owns a business and they're not even in compliance with with the Populist movement that he went out on the $20 an hour rage and then it's not just a group of businesses

Starting point is 01:48:33 And this was a Wall Street Journal story that the Daily Mail picked up, but this came out of the journal It's the California Business Roundtable. That is one of the largest business groups and it is largely independent. There are Republicans, Democrats and independents that are business owners that are part of the business roundtable. It leans conservative but it's got a very big tent there and they are all coming back to the state saying look all these tax increases a half a percent on this, a half a percent on this, disability tax on here. Anybody that's worked there has seen it and now they're coming back and saying hey there's a revolt and by the way the revolts are coming out of nowhere. These

Starting point is 01:49:11 are the remaining businesses, these aren't the ones that have closed and people have left the state. So it's all coming home to roost for Gavin Newsom. He deserves these headlines that he's getting right now and if people are paying attention this is the guy that wants to be president. Jesse I know you love Gavin's policies. You're very good at math so see if you can do this in your head you probably can. If you're making $20 an hour to work at a fast food restaurant right is that is that six figures are you making? no no what he grant? 50 is just to exit to and out a few zeros, okay, so 40k year, okay? Well time 40k year so and then if your husband or wife is also there you're making a hundred thousand dollars as a family

Starting point is 01:49:54 Sure both working at McDonald's 80 grand that is okay. That's crazy. That is crazy Because that job really doesn't require much so it's inflating the entire You know Labor sector and the happy meal and the happy meal unhappy very unhappy which I'm very unhappy about but I believe Gavin Newsom will be president one day. The man is smooth. He's already currying up to the Republican side you saw him go on Hannity. He dive bombed a couple couple of fox news events he savvy and i think a lot of people are interesting that he had no facts on his side when he entered when he debated uh... centers in this

Starting point is 01:50:32 any a held his own i mean he i think lost but he held his own yeah and he has a lot of bad facts i think he's a real threat he's got good hair very good air tall got a nice-looking family a lot of California cash. He owns a vineyard. He sends people bottles of wine that he's trying to grease. I mean he could be a problem.

Starting point is 01:50:51 But I tell you one thing. Unless Barron Trump runs for president. But we gotta wait 17 years for that, right? But you know, one thing with California that I like that's happening now, the only thing is why are you doing it now? Kind of like Jeremy Boring, the Ben Shapiro on Candace. Why don't you do it five months ago? Right? Why don't you do it four months ago? Why are you waiting till you know, it's like one time I went to El Torito and we had this waiter and

Starting point is 01:51:16 Sergio and Amanda's name was Jacopo. I'll never forget this Jacopo was a 38 year old guy married with three kids, his wife didn't speak any English. He was a breadwinner. And Sergio was the one that I would go to, he would always give me that pumpkin seed dressing back in the days, the El Torito from Encino on Ventura and Balboa. I was there three days a week, it was that good. It was great food. Anyways, we sit down with Jacopo and Jacopo sits down with one of our guys, Tony, and he presents

Starting point is 01:51:46 him they need an insurance policy. Jacopo tells Tony, I know what you're doing, because he asked a question. God forbid if something happens to you, what's going to happen to your wife and three kids because she doesn't speak English and she doesn't have a job. Oh, I know what you're doing. You're trying to use the fear tactic for me. I'm 38. Nothing's going to happen to me.

Starting point is 01:52:00 Okay? We leave. Next week we go to El Torito. Sergio is somber. I said, what's up Sergio? Did you hear about what happened? No. Jacopo just passed away. I said, you're joking. No. I said, are you serious? He said, he just passed away. Wife, three kids, could have bought a quarter million dollar insurance policy for a hundred bucks a month. Nothing. Wife would have gotten 250. Zero. Gone to the wife. Looked like a regular guy. Never

Starting point is 01:52:24 thought anything would happen to this guy gone, right Sometimes when you're in California Live there 20 something years. I know all the freeways in Southern, California. I can drive there with my eyes closed I'm probably not gonna get into an accident if there's nobody in front of me Going 165 miles an hour which will never do because you're supposed to drive 65 miles So but I love California's weather. I love the relationships miles an hour, which we'll never do because you're supposed to drive 65 miles an hour. But I love California's weather. I love the relationships we've had all those years of living there.

Starting point is 01:52:49 The business owners stayed quiet for too long. Now you want to make noise? After having the net migration loss be number one three years straight, I think it's two or three years straight, no one's even close to your number one state in the last four years for losing the most people. The first time California ever lost people since 1851 was under Gavin Newsom and he did it back to back to back. Now you want to come say something.

Starting point is 01:53:16 Got it. Guess what, guy? It's too late. It's too late. Go push forward. Don't let anybody discourage you guys from pushing forward. Go push forward, but you've got to replace this guy. You've got to realize that when you increase minimum wage to 20 bucks and a Big Mac is

Starting point is 01:53:32 now worth whatever it's worth, the average family cannot do anything with it. So you may say husband and wife are making 80 grand or six figures in California working at McDonald's. That's nothing in California because of how high cost of living is. So California has been destroyed, not like it can't be saved, somebody new can come in and change the policies, but the part that they have to take from this case study, don't wait for somebody else to do it. Be proactive before shit hits the fan.

Starting point is 01:54:00 And now for many, it's too late, many businesses, you already lost Musk, you already lost Rogan, you already lost Toyota, you already lost a lot of people that left you and went to the other side because if California and Texas had a baby, we know what that state is, it's Florida. Florida offers you the best of both worlds of California and Texas and Florida's kicking. California lost PBD? Yeah, California lost a lot of people. They lost a lot of people. But lost a lot of people, but anyways

Starting point is 01:54:26 Jesse great having you on. Thank you so much. I Took your message. I understand what you know that fair will make that work because I also enjoy being on with you as well That's cool more than anything else, bro I got to tell you the best part about these types of conversations is learning about somebody's story Now I will always look at you when you're doing your show in a complete different lens. Because you saw me without a blazer. Because I saw you what you were doing 15 years ago and I'm like, look at freaking how awesome that is.

Starting point is 01:54:55 So when I was researching coming on the show and I did very little research, but when I looked into you, I love how you're so obsessed with success. And I love how you love the success stories, and I love how you love the success stories the routines The discipline the drive the competitive attitude and that's really inspiring and and I next time I come back I want to talk to you about how to be successful and what it takes to accomplish your dreams. I look forward to it I definitely look forward to it gang. We're gonna put the link below get it together forward to it. I definitely look forward to it. Gang, we're going to put the link below, get it together, Troubling Tales from the Liberal

Starting point is 01:55:26 Fringe, number one New York Times bestseller. This is the second book that's number one New York Times bestseller. Rob, let's put the link below. Also, for the people that are watching the podcast today who want a signed copy of this book, there's three. Here's what we're doing. Anybody who goes on vtmerch.com and places an order for $50 or more, a minimum of $50, you go to VTMerch.com, place your order, you can buy Future Looks Bright hat, whatever

Starting point is 01:55:55 you may order. We're going to give you a PBD Podcast Future Looks Bright mug. We're going to put in a pin and a keychain, and three of you on Tuesday will do a raffle to give away those three signed copies but you've got to go to vtmerch.com and place an order for a minimum of $50. The first 100 will be part of that raffle. Having said that, Gang, have a great weekend. We'll do it again next Tuesday.

Starting point is 01:56:17 Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.

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