PBD Podcast - Don Lemon vs Elon Musk, Meek Mill & Diddy, and Sunday Prayer w/ Andrew Schulz | PBD Podcast | Ep 381

Episode Date: March 17, 2024

Patrick Bet-David, Adam Sosnick, Tom Ellsworth, and Vincent Oshana are joined by comedian Andrew Schulz as they discuss Don Lemon's ridiculous salary demands from Elon Musk and X, the Meek Mill &a...mp; Diddy rumors, and how to restore pride in Americans. Get tickets to Andrew Schulz's "The Life Tour": https://bit.ly/3x0mI4o TIME STAMPS: 00:39 - Andrew Schulz in-studio with Patrick, Adam, and Vinnie for a special Sunday podcast. 2:49 - Father Andrew Schulz opens the show with a Sunday prayer. 5:07 - Andrew talks about having his father watch him perform at Madison Square Garden. 12:14 - Andrew Schulz talks about his next stand-up special and his interview with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 19:06 - How to fix a broken political system in the United States. 34:26 - How to restore pride in Americans. 38:54 - Andrew Schulz talks about how he assembled the Flagrant podcast crew. 49:41 - New York City's migrant crisis and crime issues. 59:00 - Are New Yorkers still fleeing the city for Florida? 1:05:58 - Diddy faces allegations of sexual harassment. 1:14:31 - Is Andrew's co-host, Charlamagne tha God, a secret republican? 1:24:19 - How crazy will things get leading up to the 2024 election? 1:40:13 - Does Andrew Schulz think Joe Biden will run for President in 2024? 1:50:47 - Don Lemon's salary demands from Elon Musk to broadcast on X include free Cyber Truck, $8 million salary, and equity. MINNECT: Connect one-on-one with the right expert for you on Minnect: https://bit.ly/3MC9IXE Connect with Patrick Bet-David on Minnect: https://bit.ly/3OoiGIC Connect with Chris Cuomo on Minnect: https://bit.ly/4caZvfJ Connect with Adam Sosnick on Minnect: https://bit.ly/42mnnc4 Connect with Tom Ellsworth on Minnect: https://bit.ly/3UgJjmR Connect with Vincent Oshana on Minnect: https://bit.ly/47TFCXq CHOOSE YOUR ENEMIES WISELY: Purchase PBD's Book "Choose Your Enemies Wisely": https://bit.ly/41bTtGD BET-DAVID CONSULTING: Get best-in-class business advice with Bet-David Consulting: https://bit.ly/40oUafz VT.COM: Visit VT.com for the latest news and insights from the world of politics, business and entertainment: https://bit.ly/472R3Mz VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: Visit Valuetainment University for the best courses online for entrepreneurs: https://bit.ly/47gKVA0 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! YOUR NEXT 5 MOVES: Want to be clear on your next 5 business moves? https://bit.ly/3Qzrj3m ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:01:25 Yeah, why would you bet on Goliath when we got bet David? Value taming, giving values contagious. This world of entrepreneurs, we get no value to haters. I ain't running homie, look what I become. I'm the one. It will happen. It will happen, Adam. Eventually. It's a miracle it'll happen. Okay, so folks, I want to tell you a couple of things here.
Starting point is 00:01:43 You know, this is Sundays. We've never done a podcast. So For whatever reason st. Patrick's Day, let me be ready for this I know it's gonna go out there and say Pat's not wearing green. Jen and Papa got me to put this. Oh, no Yeah, oh wow fully prepared But it's a Sunday special, you know for some of you guys that are skipping church today or you watched a service in the morning with your family We have a reverend in the house. It's a very special guy. That's in the house. He's loved Let me put it to you this way. You know what's crazy. Normally. We'll say hey guys
Starting point is 00:02:14 We're thinking about doing some special on Saturday our guys will typically show up But today the people that would would normally not show up just showed up for the hell of it because they just want to see This guy because they love this guy and we were with them two nights ago performing I'm not gonna tell you the jokes he told But it was funny to sell Jennifer doesn't go to shows with me late night because she has to put the kids to sleep And she has to wake up early, but she doesn't miss this guy so Schultz is great to have you on the podcast Thank you so much man. I was talking to a couple of your guys and One of the guys is in the, you know, crew
Starting point is 00:02:45 that we're talking to. I said, listen, if I wanted to, you know, do a late night show with any guy, and I'm going to keep saying this until this happens. There's two guys I love. I like it. Two guys. Okay. I think the other guy is going to do something.
Starting point is 00:03:00 I think he's going to go a different direction than you. I think you're more versatile that you can talk a lot of different topics but I think that guy's also gonna do something Marcelo SNL. Marcelo is great man. I'm a big fan of that guy just a special guy but for you hey if if I were to put a half a billion into a media company to want to have a late-night show I would probably spend 20% of it and sign a guy to do a late-night show bring writers bring a team and have that guy Compete against the phallan the camel the whole all those guys and I think you would kill it Oh, my man, I think I'm watching I would come and watch I'm gonna be sitting there watching it
Starting point is 00:03:39 So maybe maybe we gotta make something happen Make something happen That space could be taken over quite 100%. I think 100% that space can be taken. But listen, since you took me out of church this morning and had to watch it on video, I think it's fair to say you got to lead this podcast into prayer, bro. Oh, let's do it. Do your prayer.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Oh my God, there's a lot of pressure. How do I start it out? How do I start it out? How I start well listen do whatever the what you know they say you you know you you may be the best living comedian But the greatest comedian of all time is a man upstairs because they say he's got a sense of humor From a living to a spiritual. Yes, give us a prayer buddy. We're waiting man. Okay, okay, okay? Who was st. Patrick by the the way? Just so I know. He drank a lot. That was it?
Starting point is 00:04:27 That was it? Was that all? Well, shout out to St. Patrick. Okay, well, Father, thank you so much for giving us this opportunity to wake up this morning, see our kids. That's pretty cool, man. I can't wait till Sosnik eventually stops aborting them. It'd be great for Sosnik eventually stops aborting them. It'd be great for Father.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Please give Sosnik the guidance to find love and find a woman he can commit the rest of his life to. Hopefully Jewish, but if not, I think we'll take really anything. Anything at this point. So please, Father, please, Father, tell Vincent to age. This guy's been getting younger every single time I see him. He is 2% body fat. It is absolutely terrifying. And I want him to fall apart as he should, as all Middle Eastern men should.
Starting point is 00:05:19 At a certain age, he should have a stomach full of baba ganoush, but it has not happened yet. So this is very sentimental. Please father change the constitution so Patrick can be president. Okay. We would really like that father. That'd be really fun. I don't know if Patrick, I don't know if he would like it after four years, but I think
Starting point is 00:05:40 the four years he would really go enjoy, maybe do some good things. And then you got to maybe do the George Washington thing where you just kind of give it up you go Okay, I think it's in a good place and everybody run with it because you know You got a family you got to hang out with and that's most important and yeah, and thank you so much for Yeah, oh, this is fun to be grateful Hey, but thank you so much for Gratitude's nice, huh? I love it. Hey, but thank you so much for all this, okay? We really appreciate you. Amen.
Starting point is 00:06:10 By the way, we're walking into Hard Rock, 5,000, sold out, the intro, the video of your dad, the kid, you, I saw the, I had no idea you could dive into the double, whatever that was. Oh, one and a half. What was that all about? It was one and a half. I was pretty sick, guess what? Athlete boxing was that all about? It was one and a half. That was pretty sick.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Guess what? Athlete boxing and all this stuff. And then Dad brings it up. What a cool experience. How was that for you? I saw that one thing you did with your pops when you went to Madison Square Garden. You make the call. You documented that whole thing.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Hey Dad, you won't believe it. And it was something like you guys were talking about. How was that moment for you? Oh, that was surreal, man. It was like really emotional. You know my dad is unfortunately you know losing his memory short-term memories gone. He's got dementia and It's called non amyloid plaque I guess dementia I think so usually what happens with Alzheimer's is you develop these amyloid plaques
Starting point is 00:07:01 I think that affects your memory, but for whatever reason he doesn't have it So we can't take any like the experimental drugs and that kind of shit anyway So his short-term memories aren't really there so sometimes he remembers What's going on sometimes? He doesn't like we were just kind of like waiting to go out onto the court And he kept on being like why are we here and I'd like tell him and then going out there was just really Yeah, it was just it was just awesome That was like the the last dream for me in stand-up comic to do and like to have him be there for that
Starting point is 00:07:27 it was Yeah, I mean, I just said it in the video He like just believed in me so much and it was so so valuable to me How important you think that is for for men to have that? Oh unbelievable? Yeah, why do you think I? Don't know it's it's interesting like I don't have anything to compare it to So like it's same thing with people like oh growing up in New York must have been so weird It's like I don't have anything to compare it to which is really normal, but Yeah, I feel like I had this confidence and
Starting point is 00:07:57 I think the confidence really came from my parents like listening to me like they just valued what I had to say like we Had dinner every single night at 530 and it was just like an hour me like they just valued what I had to say like we had dinner every single night of 530 And it was just like an hour where they were just big you know what do you think about the world? What's going on? What are you doing? And I think from that I was like oh when I say things people should listen Almost to the point like when I would talk and they wouldn't listen. I'd be like these guys are rude There's someone important Yeah, and I really think that that's all, I think that's all my family.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Just like making me feel like what I had to say was important. And then you build some confidence there. And like with confidence, you can achieve a lot, even when you don't have talent. You know? What do you think? Can you imagine the power of asking your kids, what do you think? You think I'm smart enough to give an answer that you're interested in my opinion? Yeah. What a powerful thing to say, right? What do you think? You think I'm smart enough to give an answer that you're interested in my opinion?
Starting point is 00:08:45 What a powerful thing to say, right? Always interested in opinions, and I was such a brat probably, you know how you're a kid, you wanna tell your parents how the world really works? And they just kinda let me do it. They're like, oh, why do you feel that way? That's so good.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Nowadays it's just like this, hey listen, take that iPad, we're gonna go, take that for five hours, we're gonna be over here. No conversation. And by the way, at what point did mom and dad know you're gonna you're gonna be a comic It seemed like from video from yesterday like it was like 14 15 Is that no like I think they always knew I like being funny, you know And I so I don't think it was like surprising for them, but there was never any pushback When I said I wanted to do it matter of fact
Starting point is 00:09:26 They were like really supportive of me like whatever endeavor I wanted to get into like I remember once like after college I'd saved up a little money and my friend and I were like thinking about opening up a bar and My parents were like, oh, yeah. Well, okay. Well, we can like mortgage the house Wow, where to God and I look back on that. I'm like you idiots like why would you do that? I don't know anything about a bar, but like I think my parents are such dreamers like my mom is like this big dreamer You know they have the entertainment and show business what is so? My mom is born and raised in Scotland comes to America You know when she's like 20 something years old like very young
Starting point is 00:10:02 Probably dropped out of school and she was like 15 or something like that And then she comes to America and she becomes like a three-time US ballroom dance champion Wow, so like her generation in her field. She was you know the goat and And then she just starts this like dance studio and starts teaching classes And she like figured out this thing that like that the hustle that I mean This is probably boring But like the hustle for dance lessons was basically what they would do is assess How much money you made and then charge you accordingly? Oh wow so it was kind of like fucked up
Starting point is 00:10:31 So what my mom did was like well instead of like having you come in and giving you a free lesson and finding out what? Your job was and all this other shit She was like what if I just taught like group lessons And then I could teach 30 people at one time and then charge them all the same price and instead of trying to be oh you're a lawyer what type of lawyer oh well for you it's a package of this that he's right though personal trainers are like that as well it's based on how much money you make are you serious yeah yeah there'll be a lot of guys like that so and don't make the mistake it's short term you can't do it so short because
Starting point is 00:11:03 the moment you ask another person and say so what did he do yeah he charged me 60 why am I paying 95 and I do why do you pay them sick while he's been with me he's only been with you two months more than me well you know and then boom you don't want to hire the guy anymore you move on so my pops was a journalist and like he was he used to produce the news before he was like an on-air reporter he's got like a wild story man he's like force gump is the way I take the position at Mike Mike Mike My granddad claims that he was there at the game or Babe Ruth pointed out the home run and my dad is like There's no fucking right this guy was
Starting point is 00:11:39 Anyway, so my pops is in the army and he was down in Baltimore And then we left the army he He he was like an on-air reporter He was like a news reporter right, but he had like a stutter while he's in the army So like he takes these like speech lessons He gets over the stutter and then he goes on and become a fucking live reporter I was just like most random thing and then From there he ends up producing the news in New York
Starting point is 00:12:04 And he does like the first ever story on like hip-hop music like he went up to like the Bronx interviews Grandmaster Flash DJ Hollywood and all these other guys like just really crazy stuff interviews Russell Simmons in his fucking tiny little Cubicle office in Midtown, and he's like this is gonna be the biggest thing ever my dad's like you don't even have a table You know I mean like the phone is on the car Wow now is he interested or is he just serious the most fascinated guy? He's just so curious by it like if and I think that's where I probably get the curiosity is like If the busboy has like more than eight glasses on a tray, he'll be like How do you how do you handle that? How do you balance it like whoever he's talking to they feel they're the most important person that like you know
Starting point is 00:12:45 And he's genuine. He's like really trying to figure it out, so He ends up getting hustled by some dance teacher, and he hears about this thing and he goes This is a racket what the fuck is up with this like I want to do a piece about this and his friend goes Hey, don't do a piece where you're ripping apart these dance instructors instead do a piece about this woman Sandra Cameron Who is the three-time US ballroom dance champion does a piece? It's about my mom or it goes to be my mom does a piece and then that's how they meet. Oh, wow Crazy, right and then look at this now How much of what the way he raised you and they raised you are you planning on using on the way you raise your kids?
Starting point is 00:13:23 I mean as much as I can I mean as much as I can. I mean as much as I can, yeah. You know, like I'm trying to keep those things. Like I'm at home six o'clock every day when I'm in town, you know, and hopefully that'll be our little dinner, dinner situation. Hang in, plug in. So late night not gonna work? Well, when she goes to bed, when my daughter goes to bed, that's when I'll go out and do shows. When she goes to bed, then you go out there and do shows. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. That's exciting man. Just seeing you tell the story the whole thing which by the way if you've not been if you get a chance to go up is this gonna be a special?
Starting point is 00:13:56 Yeah. Okay so are you doing it the same we did the last time or what's the plan? I think this one might be different Sorry go go go no go ahead. No, I'm just thinking about this. It's funny even about the late-night show because we had a We had RFK on the pod right? Charming guy really charming he's Kennedy's fucking charm and And and he said something on the pod that was a joke it wasn't a joke It was serious, but it was meant in like a laughing way right like and he basically is talking about because I asked him about You know hanging out with Epstein and he goes listen you understand like I'm in New York at this time like he goes I had Bill Cosby at my house. I had OJ at my house. I had Harvey Weinstein He goes through the gambit of the worst people on purpose like he's trying to show look how many awful people were in my life
Starting point is 00:15:00 Instead of these like Hollywood phonies that go oh my god Harvey Weinstein How could how could you even be with him and then all them have fucking pictures sucking his dick on the red carpet fucking decade Yeah, exactly, and he goes and then you find out these people are swamp creatures, and they're just absolutely disgusting Yep now and then I make a little joke to him. I go I go I mean you hung out with good people, too Right he's like yeah, yeah of course blah blah blah so he's the context is Look at all these people that you can hang out with that you don't even know are awful, and then you find out they're awful, right?
Starting point is 00:15:31 So Fallon does a joke, and they just take the section where he talks about the people, you know, Weinstein, OJ, whatever, and then he does it, oh my God, who else were you hanging out with? Jeffrey Dahmer, blah, blah, blah. I don't know. And a few nights later Colbert does the same joke
Starting point is 00:15:49 Right and and you see it and they're both leaving out the context that he's like Hey, this is how crazy is that this can happen? You can hang out these awful people because you're in this social scene You don't even know it right? That's the content, right? But they leave out the concepts everything and I'm watching this and I'm like Wow, like I see how I See how people could think that there is a conspiracy going on like when you see this information You seem like the same joke written twice. There's only three late-night shows They should be aware of the jokes that are kind of being made based off the same clip taken out of context
Starting point is 00:16:22 You're like, oh my God, there's a conspiracy. But I think sometimes laziness presents itself as conspiracy. And and I'll bring this back to capitalism in a second and why sometimes I get a little bit concerned about how we could be manipulated by outside sources. So the laziness is there these writers, right? That they they know they just need to get jokes on in order to you know Continue their life right they got to chase that the path of least resistance to make money to provide for their families, right? They don't love that job. They're not passionate about writing fucking knock-knock jokes for Fallon or any of the other late-night hosts
Starting point is 00:16:58 It's not their desire a lot of them probably started as comedians stand-up comedians They want to be out there touring and doing that this is what pays the bills protects their family that's awesome but the path of least resistance is to write the joke they know will get on air and this joke will get on air right it's a pretty easy joke like look this guy served you up silver platter okay put it out there that's the path of least resistance so now people see this and they're like look look at all these organizations that have a targeted strike on this candidate RFK when in reality, they're just going through the path of least resistance now. Here's my concern
Starting point is 00:17:34 You don't need like a nefarious group of people to like Create assets out of every single politician and lobby every single group if you can control the path of least resistance That's the thing that scares me. Right? I think that's the tick-tock concern if you control the carrot You control the culture bottom way. Yes, right you control the area and an example of this would be With with for example movies in China like Hollywood knows if you get a movie in China They take like ten a year if you get a movie in China that movies making crazy money, right? So now all of a sudden Taiwan isn't gonna ever be mentioned in a movie because you want to make sure it meets the Chinese standards they are
Starting point is 00:18:19 dangling the carrot creating the path of least resistance and then Affecting culture and I feel like that's one of the things like capitalism is the best system. No question without the best thing that we got, but it was developed at a time where we were the ones consuming everything. We were the biggest consumers. Now you got some other money out there. And if the only thing driving us is capital, we can be manipulated by those sources out there
Starting point is 00:18:47 that have the capital. So we have to have something else that guides us. That's the value of, I imagine, religion. That's the value of ideology. That's the value of American pride. But if you're at a place where you don't have an American pride and American identity, and the only thing you're going after is cash,
Starting point is 00:19:02 whoever's got the cash is gonna dictate your culture So that's the scary shit about if China is running tick-tock, which of course they are they should that's the game That's what we would do. I'm sure that's what we do with our social media apps That's why they don't allow them in their country, but it's very dangerous when they could push certain levers To create certain conversations and when some people in America don't want money They definitely want attention They'll do anything for attention and if you get attention on this app doing these things that cause I don't know a little bit of hmm a Negative discourse, let's say in America. It's concerning. Did you ever watch the movie Tetris? Yeah, okay
Starting point is 00:19:41 yeah, what a sick concept because what you're telling me remind me of Tetris where Yeah. Okay, what a sick concept, right? Because what you're telling me, remind me of Tetris, where the guy is a supporter of Gorbachev, is a communist, but his right-hand guy is actually a capitalist and is willing to compromise the pride of the USSR for money as long as the Tetris people are giving him the five million bucks or the deal is being done through one guy, not the other guy. So let me ask this question. So what what what is the solution to that? I have some thoughts and I think you subtly said it But I think you kind of hovered over it really quickly when he said yet the pride the religion the heritage I would also add values and principles. Yeah, but yes, how do we bring that up though? That's the thing. It's like I
Starting point is 00:20:23 mean I joke around about this, you know in stand-up all the time like that. I did I I hate legal immigrants Not illegal ones the legal ones annoy me because they they want to tell you about why their country's great and shit like that And it's just like the nice thing about illegals that they love America so much now. My mom is a legal immigrant right gay The least American thing to do ever show up and say you're No, but but but I think that we need a pride movement I think that's really important I think it's very easy when you're on top to look at all the things that aren't going well Because you have nowhere else to see right you have no one else to aspire to be there's no other country in the world that Any of us like look at and go man. I wish we were them
Starting point is 00:21:18 Not like if we're being honest, it's the only country in the world that you would want to live for 12 months Name another one. You would want to live for 12 months. I don't I Wouldn't I can't think all year round? Yeah, and this is this is the this is the conversation I have with anybody when they're like Oh, this is the best country in the world 12 months. Give me 12 months Canada. No, no Canada has to invade like Turks and Caicos if Canada invaded like three Caribbean islands
Starting point is 00:21:51 they'd be pretty good yeah for sure they'd be pretty good but you can't just be in snow all year round you know Australia is kind of close but like you just can't so it is the best but I think sometimes when you're at the top you're just looking for reasons why You could be better instead of looking at what you could be and I think we need a little more pride that that's just my And you when you're taught so you do the podcast I saw I saw like clips of it from you and RFK and then like you said you you you watch something like these late-night Shows they're all obviously stealing from each other and writers and whatever whatever and and how you say The laziness like you see something like that if they put it out there laziness
Starting point is 00:22:28 I think is one number two there's no time to sit there and fact-check something that you're seeing the damage has already been done you feel me you are watching that automatically the rumors and friends are texting RFK hung out with these disgusting piece of pedophile like that rumor gets out do you think that that comes from the top like there's somebody telling them they found all you guys that RFK he's going against the Democratic Party, go after him, bash his ass, get it out there. I don't think it always happens that way. I think sometimes it's laziness. But here's
Starting point is 00:22:56 the other thing. If I'm like, let's say it's the deep state or some nefarious group of people, right? It's too much effort to call every showrunner of every show and every radio host and every podcast and be like, hey, we're taking down RFK. If you're really powerful at the top, control the carrot. Control what you get canceled for. Control what you get in trouble for. And once you dictate what those guidelines are
Starting point is 00:23:30 People won't stray from them because they just bought a house and they're installing a pool and they don't want to risk it They don't want to risk the pool Right. They don't want to risk their kids who are in private school It's like fuck if I get fired how are we gonna pay for this private school? So they don't want to risk it and I understand that too Control the carrot what we got to make sure is I'm okay with America controlling the carrot Like I'm okay with us making our decisions and having over half the population decide, hey, this is what we want.
Starting point is 00:23:50 That's an awesome system, love democracy. What I'm concerned about is, another country controlling the carrot. And I think there are opportunities for that because of the beauty of capitalism, which is like lifting people out of destitute poverty. Well, now they're not middle-class now They got money money, and they could throw it around and you know we like we like money
Starting point is 00:24:09 Yeah, and again to me on what you're saying is so important because I had a call with him one night, and I don't know when this was I Said I said can I ask you a question and we were talking about faith, and I'm like why don't you why don't you go to? Church they said we want to have church as I get that I said, can I ask you a question? And we were talking about faith. And I'm like, why don't you go to church? He said, well, we don't have church. I said, I get that. I said, but why don't you go practice your faith? R.T. TEMPLE.
Starting point is 00:24:32 I said, why don't you go practice your faith? He says, why don't you go actually practice your family, your heritage, have pride in it, pursue it, continue, do your thing. Why don't you do that? If you're skeptical, I'll give you my option. You can go to church with me on Sunday, but if not, I want you to have pride in your heritage, where you're from, your family, your last name, your country, who gave you the opportunity, right? I think it's weird because in the insurance space, when you're building a business, we would always talk about there's four things to building a big agency. It was how-to, it was systems, it was crusade, and it was dream.
Starting point is 00:25:13 So meaning what? If you don't have systems, I can't transfer the knowledge to you. So for example, system for writing. I guarantee if I spend an hour with you, you can probably help me learn the basics of writing a joke. Whether I'm going to do a good job or not, it doesn't matter. But there's a system to it and you'll probably transfer the system to me. Great.
Starting point is 00:25:31 How to, that's just my skill set. Am I going to be able to how to write it, right? But then the other part when you're sitting there talking to somebody is also which any office that I ever saw flatline, they spend way too much time on system and how-to, not enough time on cause and dream. So they were all about, well here's how you do this and here's how you do this and you say this one, they say this and you overcome the objection this way and it was all logic, logic, logic, logic, logic.
Starting point is 00:25:55 And in the offices I would go to that were not the best in script, that were not the best in system, they're up there saying, let me tell you, the dream one day, imagine your kids going to the school, you want to tell them, and then the dream of one day you've been able to make your mom and dad proud, and the dream of this, this, that, and imagine what they're doing to us, and the enemy's coming after us, we got a correcting justice, and 200 people in the room are on fire of wanting to take over the world, right? I think in America, the people who are selling America, they're selling it logically, some of them are afraid to sell America.
Starting point is 00:26:26 We're not selling the dream of America like we used to. We're not selling the crusade of America. We're not selling the cause, the correcting the injustice, the fact that there's a real enemy. And because we're not doing that, the Americans are confused. You make a very, very good point on how much power the writers have and the writers are controlled by the people that are given the money. And God forbid if you write the wrong joke then that
Starting point is 00:26:46 guy's gonna be able to get lose and not be able to put his kid in private school so I have to criticize this guy have to be we're doing a podcast with Gina Carano and a guy sends me a email of two days ago very very well-known director who has directed movies that I'm convinced you love. I'll show you afterwards and you can't hear. Convinced we love this guy. Okay, his work. And he says, look, I got to tell you, I watched the podcast.
Starting point is 00:27:14 He's at Cabo with his family celebrating their vows, they're renewing their vows. And his daughter's wearing the Future Looks Bright hat. It's like, look, I consume the PBD podcast. I don't agree with a lot of things you said but I agree with the approach You're taking it and I'm starting to pay attention to the political side more, right? Yeah, as long as guys like us the scary part today Andrew is that you're able to through common sense and humor because humor opens up the mind right the power of humor is so Frickin powerful right? Yeah, you can use humor to get people to say,
Starting point is 00:27:46 I freaking love this guy, and he believes that. Why does a smart guy, funny guy like that believe that? So I think there's a lot of the, the Avengers of today are not gonna be the Avengers of 50 years ago. I think the Avengers of today are gonna be different types of Avengers, but I think they're gonna be more effective.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Yeah, no, I hear you that, but what happened with the conversation? Well, he was talking about that as a guy who's in the space. I agree with the things you're talking about. And he says, when I saw that the reason why Disney fired her right after they fired her, and I went and found that for myself, why that was, he says, I don't support that
Starting point is 00:28:20 and I'm in the industry. And the guys that he's done his movies with, guess what, they're all on the left. Hardcore. Hardcore on the left. Meaning if we're talking, selling the dream, the cause and we have our own way of communicating and we're selling the system that's worked, enough people with common sense and logic are sitting there saying, I agree and there's no way in the world you're going to take that
Starting point is 00:28:44 away from my kids So it not only gets the logic to click and it also I'm willing to fight for that's why voices are important that's why it's important to have like discussions about it because the average person might not have the time or Interest to do the intellectual heavy lifting to communicate an argument that they feel so when you have people out there that are doing that heavy lifting and equipping them with the Ammunition they need to defend their beliefs. It's really valuable to them, you know, they're so grateful They know that they feel like they should be able to make a joke about a certain thing, but they don't know why And you equip them with the argument as to why?
Starting point is 00:29:19 And yeah, it's like so liberating for them. It really is and I think that's why you see a lot of these figures I'm sure that you guys do that for people you see, you know, I'm sure Ben Shapiro does that for people that are conservative I'm sure when it comes to Israel Palestine, you have people on both sides doing it, right? And and it's like really valuable that those voices are there so you can communicate what you feel It is hard to sit down and like read books about an issue. It's hard It's hard to sit down and like read books about an issue. It's hard. It's hard to sit down and like listen to lectures That's difficult, but the average person still wants to feel like they have some sort of communication apparatus the reason why I
Starting point is 00:29:55 am a big fan of yours and Comedy we've had many comedians. I I like anything that makes me laugh I'm for because when you grow up in a crazy environment you need humor you need levity you need something to kind of calm your nerves But to me I am I'm very excited and curious to know what you do next 20 years because I think you're an intellect and you're entertaining and there's values and principles Holy shit. That's a great combo. Meaning the upside of the influence, I want to see what a late night, if we have a late night that's being ran by a guy like Andrew and people are watching it, logic will sink in as long as he can have the influence over the writers, as long as like, no, I'm not
Starting point is 00:30:39 writing this, no, I'm not writing this, no, I'm not saying this, no, guys, can we, is this true? Is this really happening? Can you Google it? No, I don't, that's not what he said. Let me play the whole clip. Okay, no, I'm not with this. No, I'm not writing this. No, I'm not saying this. No, guys, can we reach this true? Is this really happening? Can you Google it? No, I don't. That's not what he said. Let me play the whole clip. Okay, now I'm not with this. If we have, we have to compete with culture, right? Because if you let it be the way it is right now, you're talking about Fallon and Kamala and Colbert and they're saying what they're saying. Like, no, this, this is not going to work out. So that's why I'm curious to know what you're going to be doing next. Especially if there's no directive, if there's nobody on top saying, like Andrew, you can't say this, this, this, that cannot be infiltrated at all.
Starting point is 00:31:11 It's like, listen, we're going to be funny and speak the facts. The only thing is, the only thing is, if you're going to try to, because I also think, I watch Leno at 13, 14 years old. So I think if you're also going to be trying to overlap and get their attention, your content has to be something that parents want them to have the kids listen as well. So like when we went and watched his stuff, right? On Friday night, I almost peed my pants. I mean, because everything that he says with the story, like dude, the way he broke it down the Macho side of man and then deep down it's like holy shit. I'm this doctor just freaking you know Yes, you know took all my manhood away from me. You're gonna go through it in life
Starting point is 00:31:53 But but then I'm like baby thing we could have taken Tico to it like I would have loved to have taken Tico at 18 Oh, yeah, Tico can't hear that today at all, right? So it needs to be you do need to have the enough sense to know if we're gonna have the 13 year old listen, it needs to be slightly different than comedy of Friday night and us we're going there cracking up. That's the only thing. That's the tricky thing. Obviously, back in the day, they had a much more difficult task in that they were creating
Starting point is 00:32:22 TV programming for everyone. They're like, how do we make every single person watch? And now I think with streaming and the internet, you can make much more nuanced programming. So it might be a show that specifically for like 18 to 40, maybe it's women, maybe it's men, maybe they cross over. Maybe it's this political agenda. Maybe it's that political agenda, but that's possible now.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Whereas before you literally couldn't, there was four channels, you know what I mean? Usually like, hey we need to make something that's castle-wide net. So I like the programming now better, you know, but also you'd be surprised with these kids watching the internet. There's no question about it. There's no question about it. The only thing is, the question isn't what the kids are watching, the question is who controls the remote and who controls the phone. And if we allow the other side to be in their brain and their minds and they're seeing it, they're consuming it, and they don't, like for example, crazy thing, Grindr, the app.
Starting point is 00:33:21 We're in the middle of the podcast this week. This guy brings up Grindr, okay? On my phone. Yeah, this guy brings up grinder. Okay on my phone Yeah, he brings up that explains everything We're talking about tick-tock. God, we've been trying to find him a Jewish girl this whole time and he's on grinding it out well But let me tell you here before he's gonna lose his mind cuz his his secret girlfriends watching him. So we're talking about Grindr, right? Watch this, the crazy thing about Grindr. So how 98% ownership of Grindr
Starting point is 00:33:55 is a Chinese owned company. Weird. Okay, but watch this. You know what's crazy? They sell for 608. Do you know what's crazy? In the middle of the podcast, I'm like, I'm just curious to know where Grindr is not available at.
Starting point is 00:34:09 And guess where it's banned in? In China. Of course. Every American app is banned there. But that's a Chinese owned app. 98% of the money is from there. Our TikTok is banned there. And that's a Chinese owned app.
Starting point is 00:34:22 That's right. That's right. So you gotta give them. They're smart. Very strict. This is the game. That's the other thing, I don't hate them because this is the game, and we do the exact same thing.
Starting point is 00:34:30 What they said is they can't compete with us. So if you can't compete, then you just put the border up, right? You just go, okay, we're not capable of competing with their social media because once it gets on here, it's gonna get, our kids are gonna get a hook, whatever, we'll create our own.
Starting point is 00:34:44 We're a little bit more arrogant. We're a hook to whatever we'll create our own. We're a little bit more arrogant. We're like, yeah, we'll take your little app. And then it really blew up. So now we got to compete. You know, I mean, there's this like rumor out there that like Facebook is trying to put the marketing or was putting the marketing dollars into like getting tick tock band to do this.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Yes. Yeah, because they can take market share and have a monopoly Here's the thing like I think that's just mutual interest I think that we should all we should really look into where that data is going But if there's a company that benefits from tick-tock being banned, of course, why would they not do it? I don't think it's this like nefarious plan by Zuckerberg and his cohorts same. This is what they just totally great enemy What is it the enemy of your enemy is your friend whatever that shit is Yeah, so you bring up back to this you talk about pride
Starting point is 00:35:29 Yeah, I assume you said there's no American Pride Month is what you meant right no not American Pride But I do want I wish that we had more pride and I'd be nice if there was a way to have pride without War I think the easiest way to have pride is war right you get everybody on the same side There's a boogeyman of fucking aliens come down all the sudden we're gonna be calling everybody and we're gonna be like hey We got to go out there buckle up and make it happen but it would be nice for us to remember i mean i guess one Of the benefits that i had having a mom who's an immigrant is it like she saw how amazing america was like she was able My mom stopped going to school at 15 years old, right? She came to America and she owns a fucking home in the East Village of New York.
Starting point is 00:36:11 She has a home out in Fire Island. This is a dream that was unbelievable. She was an amazing woman. Don't get me wrong, she is amazing. This is why she loves America so much. I get to come up in that. Right now it feels like both sides hate America Like all they do is shit on America now
Starting point is 00:36:30 You could make the argument that they like it or the right likes it more the left likes more but if the only thing that's being spoken is How horrible it is and the cities are falling apart? There's no why would we have pride you said this on our part more is cost than taught Yeah, that all I'm catching is how horrible it is and the cities are decrepit and everything's falling apart and our infrastructure is this It's like boohoo is like you have the opportunity to be the best version of yourself here. That's America I don't know if you could be you in Iran. I Know you can be you here. You might be a different version of it But there's other factors there that are gonna limit your great question about it, bro Okay, this is where you get to be a super here. Yeah, and to me
Starting point is 00:37:16 It's just the most incredible fucking place in the world It's the most incredible experiment like we have kids who are retarded here that are millionaires like We went you can be someone who have mentally is mentally ill and be a millionaire name another country if that's possible There are streamers on the internet. Yeah, that are mentally retarded. Yes, and they're millionaires What the fuck? Not amazing like is that not mind-blowing? Yep. Only in America. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:46 You got some of that tism that your friend talked about. Bro. The tism is... You know what? I have to give this up to the Jews. The Jews are the best about this. The Jews... This is one thing that's amazing about Jews. The Jews with autism, they don't separate them.
Starting point is 00:38:01 You just bring them on. Like there's one drew in every crew We were at the casino that was like fully fucking tis out and I don't know if he's there to count cards or some Blown Vaccinated tis out of his mind and he is I don't know if he's counting I don't know what he's doing, but he's part of the crew, right? The what do we call goys or whatever the goys we go to our autistics and we put them go away But yeah, we don't include them as much. They're not invited to the things they're like, oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:38:32 They're a little weirdos you guys fucking lock them in and maybe you're using them. Maybe that is And maybe we need to start doing this of course What is wrong with us we're slipping look what we did with Mark Zuckerberg come on buddy, let's make something happen Yes, we put all of ours on a Netflix show you guys get yours working. They're like hamster in the wheel So show stay on this they are this before transition. How do we increase? How do we increase the pride? the pride. Autism! Is it more vaccine? More vaccine is what we need? Jab everybody! I'm getting in line. What did he say? He says, I want my kids that don't look at anybody in their eyes. What did he say? Mark's joke is so good. By the way, you guys were funny because when I came on the podcast, I had no idea who he was. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And
Starting point is 00:39:21 you guys were like, who is he? Yeah, he's just, you know, he does the technology here. He does the music, he picks the song. He picks the Yeah, he's just a you know He does the technology here. I'm using he picks the song it makes a music What is a big sound like no? We are messing with you because we were playing like your greatest hits But we had a playlist for you when you came on. I was on Unbelievable it was And you're like who's doing this? We have our methods, you know
Starting point is 00:39:53 Literally my favorite songs are playing it while I'm in them like How did you put your crew together like PBD Yeah, you know the the Voltron that we've sort of formed here is PBD brought Tom from the business world. We met in the business world. Yeah, he literally slid in Vinny's DMA. You're a Syrian comedian. You're number one in the world. It's like I'm the only one in the world. Put a crew together.
Starting point is 00:40:13 PBD is, you know, how did your crew come together? I mean, I got so lucky, man. A lot of a lot of the guys in my club and friends with forever. So the guy who does our partnership, Jamil is like my best friend since I'm 13. Dove, who you guys know, my my first friend in college my best friend since then Akash who I do the podcast with my best friend comedy and and then mark We met he was opening for me in Orlando Randomly and he's an operator. He's really fucking smart like he he he was great
Starting point is 00:40:42 He is he is great But like he was like I'm gonna find a way to host this weekend so that I can meet him and then maybe we can work together and he fucking did it right and he just be just so he's a great podcast actually right now called Camp Gagnon that he does and but yeah he's just so fucking talented and then I start collecting these different people and if you have talent I want to dump as much of my energy into It as I possibly can like I love talented people I want to be the least talented person in my crew
Starting point is 00:41:10 always like I want to be the dumbest and the least talented because Like Vala who made the intro video and then shift to you does all the stand-up It's like stand-up clips and you know that kind of stuff. It's just like yeah, it's just amazing It's so much easier volume. Did I meet volume? Yeah Valo? He made the intro video. Yeah, I think you met Valo. What a sick video that was. He's so talented. He's so talented. Yeah, that was fantastic. Yeah. So, okay, so let's stay on this. I want to really get you to think because I think your, you know, your brain, creative brain, can think about something. So, say you get invited by this man named Joseph, okay to this this it's a street I don't know. Let's pick a street, Pennsylvania Avenue Avenue and you get invited to city DC
Starting point is 00:41:52 Maybe it's a guy named Joseph. Maybe it's a man named Donald whatever is running it right and they say hey Andrew we want to find a way to increase American pride We want to find a way to increase American pride in American exceptionalism You know how great America great how great it is and all this up. How do we do it? That's a great question I think it I think it I think it taps into Opportunity like I see these people all the time talking about the American dream is done It's like who the fuck are you it's like how can you even say that there are people who make a living? Talking on podcasts like that's a dream. That's not a that's not a reality That is a dream that I could hang out with three of my friends
Starting point is 00:42:33 And we call each other gay for two hours every week and make money like this is just an absurd Surreality that we're living in so So yeah, I think that the dreams can change, but I think that maybe it's not, I love American exceptionalism, I want to reinforce that, but it's really about like the opportunity to be the best version of yourself. And I think Americans are so far removed from what else is out there in the world. And oftentimes the lack of opportunity that we don't even know how good do we have it in many cases And anytime we try to talk about how good we have it
Starting point is 00:43:09 we are immediately reminded about some of the horrible things that happen in our country or have happened in our country and Those two things are not mutually exclusive. They could live together Right, like you could have great opportunity and disgusting things happen. No country is gonna be fucking perfect right capitalism a perfect democracy a perfect No, they should is perfect. We're not trying to be perfect. We're just trying to be the best and But I really do think pride pride pride pride pride and then identity what it is to be an American like what is it? What is it to be an American overall? I like that? We have all these little groups and all these little groups can thrive within America. That's awesome But also what is it for all of us to be American, right? There's like, okay You're a Jewish American
Starting point is 00:43:50 Maybe you got your shit that you got to do Friday nights are off or whatever But you're still an American and what is leading you in that regard? What is leading you as an American who's Chinese? What's meaning is American is black like? When you know push comes to shove, what is that umbrella? And what do we all support? And what do we care for? I'm the black guy in this party. You're in a black shirt. You're as close to African as the Kets.
Starting point is 00:44:10 I take it. I take it. So yeah, I don't know. What do you think? How do you instill the... But I think one is talking about it. I think one is selling it. I think one is it would be great to show people from different walks of life unifying that shouldn't be at an event together and all saying, here's why America's great for no reason. And for the audience to sit there and say,
Starting point is 00:44:38 you know, what is that all about? That guy thinks America's great. So does this guy. Interesting. Wow. All these, like for example for example once the last time we had an event in DC in front of what he called it Lincoln Memorial and we have a half a million people show up and you bring ten different people from different
Starting point is 00:44:59 backgrounds and all we're talking about is how awesome America is and everybody rallies towards it Imagine if we sell an event like that no tickets no cost nothing Hardcore security we bring yeah, literally right at the Lincoln Memorial. How sick is that? How fucked up is that? See how they do Abraham nine people no what the Kate he frees black people and they put his statue behind bars. Unbelievable. I can never, I was waiting for it. Why did they lock up? My people go, I never never not look at that way again. That's some racist shit. I can't give this a shot for America. So I think part of the problem that's killing America right now is the tribalism is that
Starting point is 00:45:49 you're on one side. If you're not on that side, you're evil. So, you know, I try to be fair and I try to be balanced and I try to give credit to what side I think is winning and doing well. The problem we have right now is you have Joe Biden. Like remember in the movie naked gun when the burning, the building burning. Nothing to see here. Please. I think if you could pull that up, anyone that see what's going on in Joe Biden's America is like, yeah, we're getting a little too woke, a little too gay, a little too crazy, a little too, a little too extreme on that side.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Nothing to see here. Everything's fine. But then you have Trump who's like, our cities are dying. America's crumbling. The American dream is dead. You know, I alone can fix it where it's like, I don't know. I think we're still kind of where it's at in America. And then, but ultimately it's the youth.
Starting point is 00:46:31 You know, they say, you know, I believe the truth. All that one stuff, but it really is. I would say, I would mandate that we have to do the pledge in school. At the very least. Okay. And then the national anthem. Look, respect to my black friends out there. There's one national anthem out here. I don't know what the black national anthem is.
Starting point is 00:46:49 I don't want a Jewish national anthem. I don't want an Asian national anthem. I don't want an Italian. I don't want a Bambalayo. I just want the national anthem. And then national service. What percent of Americans are even in touch with what's going on in the military right now?
Starting point is 00:47:03 One percent? We have no clue what's going on in the military. He served in the military. You served in the military. It's we're so disconnected and fragmented from what people are doing to risk their lives in America, right? We have no clue. And everybody's in a doctrine to go to college, go to college, go to college.
Starting point is 00:47:19 College is crumbling. I would encourage young people out there, take one year of your life, do a gap year, community service service national service Anything like last piece of thing anyone who says I it sucks here in America go to America set up a fund one-way tickets to wherever these people want to go. Let's have people actually a pride in America No, stay in America. That's my son. I don't think we should pay for it. But go ahead. No, that's no I think it's really interesting what you're saying that the military thing is tricky for me I mean that is my one regret. I wish I served in some way shape or form
Starting point is 00:47:50 I didn't have to do 16 years, but I wish I did something but uh Some form of national service, but I do think there's a power to our military being voluntary Like there's something really beautiful about it Like when you're going up against another military, you know, all of them are forced to be there and our guys are like Salivating to get after it. How do you beat that? You can't I don't know how you beat that like they've committed their lives For the opportunity to protect our freedoms and these other people are like you better go there you go to jail You can't beat us. You can't beat us like that. I mean maybe you have some hypersonic missile That's one thing but when it's like banging on the ground, which I don't even know if that's war anymore. I I
Starting point is 00:48:33 Don't know man. I think there's something beautiful about that now It's different obviously, you know, you know the draft comes around and you got to bring people in the at the mandate The Pledge of Allegiance thing. I don't know if that like affected my American pride as a kid. Maybe it did. Maybe it maybe it didn't I'm not sure but like I Really do think that like curating that identity and that's not to say we can't shit on it Yeah, we should shit on it family shit on each other But when some other families talking shit about you you're like, you know, watch your fucking mouth Yeah, and it'd be really nice if we brought that back a little bit Yeah, let's do it. Let's figure out how we can do this a little bit better. Okay. Do we need some fucking prison reform?
Starting point is 00:49:10 Yeah, let's reform it. How can we do it in a more effective way? Do we need some gun control? Maybe maybe not let's discuss it Let's have those conversations without everything breaking down to what you said which was this place sucks. It's decrepit It's awful like I went to San Francisco, right a Guy shit in the fountain, but besides that it was it was like be like, I'm thinking he's doing one of these moves. It was a nice squat. It was a nice squat. But it was like, listen, there are things that they could fix, and every person in San Francisco agrees.
Starting point is 00:49:56 There's no person in San Francisco that's going, man, this is exactly how I want my city to look. So the people are going to decide that, okay, maybe we need a stricter DA. We tried this no rules nonsense or no punishment nonsense, and it didn't work out. And there's, and you have to let democracy take place as well. You have to let the people go. Hey, we tried this. You know what?
Starting point is 00:50:16 It's not that nice. People out there jabbing themselves up. Not that nice. Maybe we'll change. I suspect that that will be the change that happens in San Francisco in the very near future organically I Do believe that when Oregon just decrypt when they decriminalize all drugs and legalize all drugs and they turned back and they said Not maybe the best decision same thing with the police right like didn't they what is it on the police on the police?
Starting point is 00:50:41 We got fun like people yeah, let's fuck up. Yeah, what the hell's going on in your city brother your New York born and raised so yeah PbD wants to ask you tell me tell me tell me cuz I see it feels no different Really? Like were you you're in Brooklyn no I live in Manhattan, okay, so you're mad So I mean from what we're seeing from just from talking about the migrant crisis just the migrant crisis Yeah, just from like she she deployed 750 the migrant crisis. Just from the migrant crisis. Just from like she deployed 750 troops into the subways to check bags with long rifles. Mind you, that's National Guard. That's pretty
Starting point is 00:51:11 serious shit. Who deployed? Coco? Yeah, she did that. I mean, you see what they're doing with the beating up the cops and all that stuff. And I get it. It's not hitting home yet. I think this is it's starting to like the and we have a video of just in the train station. I mean, this is just New York. I'm from Yonkers, bro. They're in the train station. These guys are fighting. One pulls out a knife, starts stabbing the guy, the guy that pulls out a gun, gets the gun taken away and he shot in the head. And this is the pandemonium in the subway. So that's the fight started. The guy, the yellow is that in New York? This isn't this is I think this is in Brooklyn. That guy right there with
Starting point is 00:51:43 the yellow archer has a knife. The other the black guy on the left has a gun they get to a squabble and then the guy in the yellow takes the gun and shoots him in the head and this is in New York okay don't play the shooting no no but like you should look at look at the pandemonium just in the train station but I mean that's a well what he's saying is Andrew saying it's the same yeah like this is always I get it's the same. Yeah, like this is... So this has always been like... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:07 I get it, but when it comes to the illegals beating each other, cops, robbing people, and then they get into jail and the next day they're out and they're doing this, I have a huge problem with that. So the New York thing is really interesting. Because I looked this up a little bit. Okay, so New York is a, well America I guess, and I didn't even know this, I didn't know you could just walk up to the border and be like, yo, I'm seeking asylum.
Starting point is 00:52:33 I didn't know. You don't even have to sneak in. Why would you fucking sneak in? You could just walk up and be like, hey, I'm here and we'll take you in and then we'll look at your case for like two years to decide if it's like a legit asylum case And in that those two years after you're already in then you could fuck off and go wherever you want to nobody would ever know Where you are okay?
Starting point is 00:52:52 I'm not saying that this is something that is like a legal thing to do but that is another option instead of just like running And trying to jump over a fence right now New York I think is the only big city in the country that has a right to shelter law and This was developed for our homeless population not for migrants yeah, so It's a cold city. It's a very wealthy city the idea that there'd be people sleeping on the street Well people are making billions of dollars on Wall Street It was a a little disgusting, and I'm sure it is a little bit
Starting point is 00:53:27 liberal leaning. So they were like, let's try to find a way we can take care of these people. And I think what happened is illegal immigrants or asylum seekers are taking advantage of a law that was not made for them. And that is really trying to swell the system. We were already at capacity. And now you have like, I think, 50% more illegals in the system We were already at capacity and now you have like I think 50% more illegals in the city then we're in the last year or something like that and
Starting point is 00:53:50 This system, I guess can't hold it now. We don't feel it a lot in New York. It's really hard because like everybody's looks like an immigrant Yeah, do you know what I mean? It's not like it's some like all white city And then randomly there's somebody from Sudan there and people go what the fuck is that? So it's really hard to beg. Oh, that's an illegal and yeah, right, but But that is the problem and they are taking advantage of something That's not really built for them and in a lot of ways affecting the homeless population in New York the people who actually need it Because homelessness isn't something that exists in perpetuity It's like some people are all you know are down bad for like a year and the fact that they have shelter, they're able to come back. But those people now can't as
Starting point is 00:54:28 easily. So that's, that's why New York is in this kind of tricky situation. But Schultz, are you saying that you haven't seen anything change? So like we've had Rudy Giuliani on the podcast, obviously he cleaned up the city in the, in the nineties. And then there was Bloomberg. He overwhelmingly, I think we had a good approval rating, but then after de Blasio, the city collectively has just gone to shit Perception is reality a lot of times you might say otherwise different now Eric Adams for my bubba trying to clean it up Yeah, I literally could be in my bubble like I want my I work 10 minute walk from my place I get coffee three minutes like I'm in this little section of New York that maybe just isn't as effective. That's the reality
Starting point is 00:55:08 And maybe there are certain areas that are way more effective than others I know they're like certain hotels that are completely filled. I think with the asylum seekers Mm-hmm, and I guess we're paying for that and you know It's a listen. It's a it's a tricky situation. You know how do you what do you do? I think I don't know I'm all about Yeah, I mean yeah It's it's not that difficult that when you say something like hey listen Eric Adams Man to hell with what they're saying on the right everybody come on
Starting point is 00:55:39 Okay, when you open your mouth, and then now it affects you and now it's like wait a minute Y'all got to get the hell out It's too late. The damage has been done. Eric was Eric was actually being a shrewd politician He was using it to get more funding. So what he what he did is he said and this is how the game works I guess he goes listen We're swollen. We can't handle it anymore. And he goes he goes to the Fed and he goes to the state government He goes guys, I'm gonna goes to the state government he goes guys I'm gonna have to I can't even recruit a new class of police cadets. I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:56:10 We can't do it we can't we don't have the money to do it. We got to shut down programs in schools We don't have the money to do it and what happens he gets some money and then none of the shit ever got shut down Yeah, we're so he's being shrewd about it, too He's weird fun And when you were talking about that like an engine just to go back a little bit We were talking about the pride in America I'm like, you know veteran in the country my mom and dad, you know legal immigrants Pat legal immigrant We we serve my brother my sits like we Like yeah loser. Yeah, but uh, I think it just it's just sad because you know that pride only when tragedy happens
Starting point is 00:56:47 Remember 9 11 bro that week following you people were I don't give a shit if you were black white tall shirt So nobody gave a shit. It was us against everybody. Here's my question us against the cab drivers. Yeah Here's my here's my question for you. How much of it is you defending your city? How much of it is your pride in your city, where it's kind of like a code, I'm not going to trash my own city. How much of it is pride, family, mom, dad, history, what you've built. How much of it is the bubble that you're talking
Starting point is 00:57:26 about, maybe I'm the bubble 10 minutes, you know, walk, I get my coffee, I'm doing this, I'm doing this, I'm living in this community, you know, how much of it is just, you know, not seeing it, not watching the news to see what's going on with New York City? I think a lot of it is- The last one the last not watching the news being in my bubble and And also coming up in New York in a time where it was like way more dangerous So now when I see it and it's a fucking Apple store I'm like what are these people complaining about like when I was younger like one winter me and every one of my friends got robbed
Starting point is 00:58:00 For our North face we all had North face jackets and every one of us got robbed So that was just like a rite of passage, so I'm hearing about people getting robbed now, and I'm like oh did you get robbed? Something for you welcome to the fucking club like it was when we were our middle school These are we're 12 years old our middle school had to make an announcement and say please don't wear red to school Had to make an announcement and say please don't wear red to school around Halloween because there's a gang initiation And if anybody asks you what time it is do not tell them because they're gonna slice your face with a box cutter She's so that was what they were telling 11 and 12 year olds mm-hmm so For me, I'm not the most alarmist because I grew up at a time where New York was objectively much more dangerous than it is now Much more you could get away with shit. There weren't fucking cameras everywhere like so it is a it is a very different
Starting point is 00:58:53 It was a very different time. It could be by the data way worse. I Haven't experienced it That's all I'm trying to say got it. Just like some guy in San Francisco that exists on the marina, that beautiful marina They're not going to see the Tenderloin where people are shooting up. They never would go there. They're not getting their groceries there They'd never even be there. So they're like, everybody's just shitting on San Francisco because we're this liberal city So when it's not perfect, everybody's gonna bag on us the most. They're way more fucking homeless in Los Angeles than they are in San Francisco It's not even close. There's like a whole more fucking homeless in Los Angeles than they're on San Francisco it's not even close there's like a whole city of homelessness and there's not even a question LA is the number one city for that yeah but
Starting point is 00:59:31 but but even in San Francisco like a couple people whose concerns is where this lady that just got elected who won the election committee in San Francisco now is a Chinese Kelly Wong yeah who's only been in America for four years, and she's doing interviews in Chinese, but she is now sworn in as San Francisco Election Commission. Little concerning, you know, right after the event they did in San Francisco with, you know, she coming in with Gavin Newsom and cleaning up the streets. But the data, people leaving New York, I wonder how many friends do you have, people do you
Starting point is 01:00:08 have, because I know you lived here for four months, give or take. How many guys do you have that moved to Florida during COVID and they're back to New York? I don't know. Well, just our crew. Florida is amazing. I think one of the things that happens with New York though, New York has tons of pride An immense amount of pride. We love our city every time you see it in a movie. It's romantic even if the movies Supposed to give you anxiety. It's still sexy like you see
Starting point is 01:00:41 Uncut gems and you're in the diamond district and you're like, oh my god, there's a there's life electricity Electra home. This is incredible. Everything about this city is incredible and So we have a lot of pride and I think like for example every New Yorker got a weird movie by the way I'm so go ahead the way it ended was confused. It was but but amazing for shafties I'm incredible. He made no he made the most money last year as an actor 73 million get out It's an only 20 to the number one earner was Sandler 73 million. Go ahead. So I'm saying 20 20 the number one earner was sandler 73 move, but go ahead so um Yeah, so so I think what happens is New Yorkers We have so much pride that and sometimes when you have so much pride you don't even Like we think okay. How do I put this together New York? We're like. This is the greatest city in the world right?
Starting point is 01:01:17 I felt that before I ever left New York So how the fuck would I know right? The thing about New York is it's surrounded by objectively shitty places So when you do leave you're like yeah, it must be the best. Oh my god, Connecticut Do you know I mean the fuck is in Connecticut right you go across the bridge and you're in fucking Hoboken You're like thank God. I'm not in Hoboken right everything around it kind of stuff So it reinforces this idea like this is the greatest there ever and it is the greatest ever don't get me wrong But a lot of New Yorkers would never even consider and there is an arrogance this like coastal elitism
Starting point is 01:01:53 You never even consider moving to a Utah and then New Yorkers go to Utah and we're like whoa trees are cool Fucking animals are nice. I saw a deer. Deer is beautiful. You ever look at a deer? And then we experience this calm and we're existing within nature. And I think a lot of us are really compelled to do that. A lot of my friends who I grew up with leave New York.
Starting point is 01:02:19 They leave. It's a hard city to grow up in and then live in forever. If you're not in New York for your business You're kind of an idiot Like if that's where you're making your money or your passion or your art and you need to be there for that That's where I make my art and I need to be there for that that makes sense But if you're working at UPS and you can make the same money living in Denver living in Florida and pay half the taxes and kids
Starting point is 01:02:47 go to a good school, a beautiful neighborhood with a pool and soccer practice and all this other shit. Like, I get that. I get that. And yeah, so I understand what happened during the pandemic where New Yorkers experience a new thing and they're like, oh, I want to check this out a little bit. By the way, it's crazy. I'm looking at it right now. Do you know, out of the last Republican governor New York had was Pataki, which was 95 to 07. Okay. And if you look at the last four
Starting point is 01:03:19 consecutive Democrats, and if we go from 75, 1975 till today only one governor has been Republican everybody else has been Democrat. Now I will say something New Yorkers don't care about our governors. I don't know who the governor is. You care about your mayor. Yeah. Right. Because New York is the state.
Starting point is 01:03:37 New York City. Whoever the mayor is, is the governor. You think the mayor has more power than the governor in New York. We don't know if they do but we're like. To you it's a bigger. Literally we're like, you know, it's a bigger literally we're like, you know, Mayor Adams Get that bitch in line. Yeah. Yeah, like we don't know who she is. Yeah, I just found out it was a lady. I Had no clue. We had a blind guy governor. Remember that Remember the blind guy governor? Yeah, he replaced somebody else. Yeah, that's how little we give a fuck
Starting point is 01:04:05 He's a Simpson He replaced somebody else. This guy, David Patterson. Yeah, that's how little we give a fuck about the governor. He didn't see. Even though he was in New York. He's a Simpson. So it's like we don't care about the governor. The governor is meaningless. It's mayor and then it doesn't matter what happens outside of New York City. Totally feel that. Yeah. Kind of like that Miami too.
Starting point is 01:04:20 If you go there and you go look at New York City mayor From day one if you go to it and you look at the pot the only reason I'm saying this is because So you got what you got Adams you got de Blasio you got Bloomberg So back to back to back that since oh to prior to that Giuliani Then he had Dinkins Koch and he had cock. Yeah, then he had Abraham beam Then he had John Lindsay, then he had the robert f wagner junior by the way everything i said to you except for juliani has been the left okay everything except for juliani and prior to that it was uh...
Starting point is 01:04:56 uh... luiguardia which was uh... well the twelve years republican right policies it's it's a trump actually is thinking that he could win New York very weird to think about that I don't think it's New Yorkers. This is a financial hub like we weird liberal in that We're we think gays make cool shit. That's it. We're not liberal in terms of our financial policy They don't go to heaven though. Listen, listen, listen you guys decided that no you guys. Yeah They don't go to heaven though. Listen, listen, listen you guys decided that no you guys. Yeah Testament is rough
Starting point is 01:05:33 Rough for the gays the Old Testament Have you read the Quran? Listen? Yeah, but that's later. They working off of your source material, right? The Old Testament started at all baby. I'm just saying y'all ripping our stuff. That's Christians the Muslims exactly They have to say it y'all ripping our stuff that's the Muslims exactly Thanks shout out to Moses out there, but the Christians mix it up in the in the coolest way That's what I love about the Christians But why do you like the gays so much in New York because they just make dope shit like what I don't know like when you're Not trying to fuck pussy all the time like you can just create cool stuff. That's my problem Do you know me like they make cool exactly? Yeah, you I mean like like a gay guy wouldn't wear that outfit no Put in some fashion thing together, you know they make some beautiful theater piece
Starting point is 01:06:13 There's some great art dancing like they do make dope shit like if you're in New York, so We love their contributions to our society and culture right if that's really important to us and Contributions to our society and culture right it's really important to us and It's important that they're able to flourish because we enjoy the things that they create right you're not gonna go to musical theater without gaze I'm sorry it is what it is you taking your kids to fucking Harry Potter the musical There's some Queens in that shit. You know frolic in the fuck around no straight guy goes I can't wait to be in Harry Potter the fucking musical right it's not possible, so We like it, but outside of that. We just were like a money city You know this is the financial hub of the world
Starting point is 01:06:50 So we're not gonna have some guy coming in here is gonna clip us in the balls and our ability to make money We know what we're after and so I think that's why the Republicans can thrive more importantly What's what's going on with this the P Diddy and Meek Mill and all these guys? So what is that all about? He might be out of here, huh? I did he's out of here. I'm eating like you jail Jail would be crazy, but I think like career was canceled officially. Yeah, I think it's over I think there's a difference between being canceled and being a criminal. Yeah Big difference right because I don't know if R Kelly got cancer. They keep canceling me for raping. Yeah. Yeah. Big difference, right? Because I don't know if R Kelly got canceled. They keep canceling me for raping. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:29 And I'm tired of people. I don't think it's canceled. People keep going like there's smoke and there's fire. No, no. The house is burnt down, bro. Did he is that guy? Yeah, like everybody from from Cassidy to the story? So the guy that just did the you know, he went to court and he's Little rod and it's like bro. There's a lot of information out there. That's not good from it from his from his security guy That was Michael Jackson security. That was the first guy in the scene when Mike died to Apparently allegedly they're saying did he shot some dude and left and they just basically clean it up from it's like bro there's a lot of the fairs how much is gonna come out with Diddy and Meek Mills and it's so crazy to you like you guys know this the moment somebody's
Starting point is 01:08:17 like man he's done some gay stuff from that moment on every time you see a video and they just turn you like oh, yeah What are the actual facts of the story like have you you've done some content on this what do you actually know that much? I just know that there's like a lot of accusations There's some there's some I guess me to ask stuff obviously this stuff with Cassie maybe other people coming out and But that being said I think he just won a lawsuit with his like liquor company so that he was he was at a I don't know if that's even public but I Might I rumors on the street. He
Starting point is 01:08:54 He just won a he settles racism lawsuit against yeah It might be even for like a couple billion or something like oh, yeah So he basically just got to stay out of jail. That's and then he can go off into the sunset. Well, he settled with Cassie in like a minute and that was his girl for like a decade or so. I don't know if he settled with her in a minute. Like in order for those, that information to hit the blogs, they're probably going back and forth for a while. And then he's not paying and then I'm talking, well, I'm going to talk. And then they're like no you're not okay and then she did and now 30 million yeah just a blitch within 24 hours and then she came
Starting point is 01:09:34 back and she said we were able to settle things out or I don't know what the words was she used but you know I'm all these other things that's going on with the guys and meek Mill, who called them out by the way? Forget about Tate, but which rapper was it that went after, is it 50 that he has a problem? Who's the person that always goes after? Well, 50 is always going after, 50 is the man. But 50, and if you're on 50's bad side, bro, God bless you, man.
Starting point is 01:10:02 May God protect you because he is not letting that foot off your neck ever Yeah, we're fully Jarl rule Floyd Mayweather Play games bro. Also one of the most charismatic dudes I've ever met no shit So 50s develop on a documentary and did he allegations house to donate proceeds Wow sexual assault can you go? Sexual assault can you go to win is this? Unstoppable man, yeah this guy. Yeah, this guy. I remember when he was doing the stuff with Mayweather's like here You know put the alphabet. I want to read One page from a Harry Potter book. Yeah, he's like I'll donate a hundred five hundred thousand
Starting point is 01:10:39 And they're both new yorkers friends though. They were best friends too. What was the fall out? Like really close. That's his business man. I'll let him explain that to you. But like they were really close. So that's I think a frustrating thing. Is it a public story or no? I don't know exactly. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:54 I know he talked to me about something but I'll let him share his business. To me there's a part about 50 that gives me a man's man vibe. Bro. You know? That's the vibe I get from him and even the the way he edifies Eminem you just gotta love the way he edifies Eminem you know just a lot of respect a loyal dude Who really understands people from a young age? From a very young age understood social dynamics like he told me he's like yeah when I was like 12 or 13 I was raised by like old heads, and I was just observing them
Starting point is 01:11:28 You don't get to talk a lot when you're with the old dudes kind of watching the power dynamics watch how things how things work man He told me some crazy story. I don't know if I want I don't know if I can't share but but uh and Yeah, I don't think he would be upset. He told me some story about like You know when he was when he was when he first got out of prison or something like that like he had like a crew of guys and you know, he went from being the dude, you know on the block to Potentially being lower now because other dudes rise when you get locked up, but he still had his crew so he was getting paid whatever he was getting paid to be part of the organization and He said in the beginning
Starting point is 01:12:08 He started taking all the money that he was making all the money that he was getting paid not in the beginning after he got Out and he would pay it to his guys so his guys wouldn't think that he wasn't still the man So he's making zero right but his guys he still need them to realize yo He still got it like that, and he just understood at a very like basic primal human level What he needed to maintain the loyalty the hierarchy and the power position I'm like you're like 17 at this fucking time how the fuck you understand it So it's no surprise to me when I see him thriving in these different industries But also like not at all sacrificing who he is. He's still a wild dude on the internet.
Starting point is 01:12:47 And in Hollywood, producing films. He can really kind of say whatever he wants. It's quite impressive. I told him the first time I saw him, I was like, bro, what do you have on all these dudes in Hollywood? And he's like, man, I don't even know what to talk about. Dude, he's that guy. But listen, to me, it stops with Diddy at the Tupac story.
Starting point is 01:13:06 That's what stops for me because you know, you go down the rabbit hole and you're just curious about a topic and a story. You keep going down, going down, going down and then you bring detectives and you're talking to guys that were involved and eventually like, yeah, no. And I was a kid, two days, three days I would say in high school was like days that I was startled confused in pain hurt Magic getting AIDS when he came out and did the HIV positive interview Yeah, you know was Michael retiring and he's stepping away from the game and it was two pocket and killed
Starting point is 01:13:40 Yeah, those three days were the days where it's like, you know as a kid you follow those stories and I think I don't know a lot of people have Diddy's influence behind Tupac and Vicky, but I'm I'm convinced I'm convinced I'm convinced guys like 50 probably have I'm convinced of people that have the actual facts and influence on who was behind it But for whatever reason they're not coming up. That's the thing. I always say I was like listen if 50 don't like you There's a reason That's what if 50 is out here not liking you there is a fucking reason
Starting point is 01:14:22 He's not just waking up going to hell with this guy. Yeah, I oh Well you saw that You know I mean and by the and you saw the interview were there any of you 50 and he's like It's a podcast and he's like this month this dude during a podcast with 50 and did he was like yeah Yeah, daddy, let's go shopping and he's like what the fuck are you talking about? I'm not gonna let another man take me shopping Fucking talking about and like he just doesn't play these games He just is upfront and honest and he doesn't play but that's that's a very good. That's a really good point
Starting point is 01:14:56 If you don't like you man, I'm looking into it. Yeah Is this it is this when he said that? Yeah. Yeah. I looked at him like, what the f- What the what you just said? Let me move, man. Before I do something, you're going to make me mess up the wedding. Oh, that's a nice gesture.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Let me get out. No, dude, you take me there. Stick with what the guy says to a girl. I asked 50 about that. And he said you did the same thing to him. You asked him to take him shopping. Yeah. I thought he needed some clothes. Someone that made a cami in that video right there was your guy. I know you've got a ton of contact with him. I think you guys did some content recently when you asked him about the
Starting point is 01:15:42 Diddy allegations. Yeah. How'd that conversation go with Charlemagne. What are your thoughts on him? Oh, I mean, Charlemagne is the goat, man. Charlemagne is the motherfucking goat. We've been doing brilliant ideas of podcasts for over like 10 years now, maybe 11, 12. I don't even know, but, but yeah, he's just, he's just the man. He's just the man to be able to like maintain, you know, being at the top is hard and to maintain your spot at the top for Over a decade. Oh, no even longer I forget exactly how long breakfast club's been doing and people don't even realize like growing up in New York when we were growing Up it was hot 97 was oh man
Starting point is 01:16:17 This is all everybody listened to so he comes in some guy from fucking South Carolina comes in and Goes on the competing network. That's not even competing. I can't I'm trying it would be like What is the minor league team for the Yankees the one that plays in Staten Island or whatever? Nobody even knows there's the team that there's like the triple a team whatever it would be if that team ends up replacing Like the triple-a team whatever it would be if that team ends up replacing the scrant and will bar Rail-raders riders some shit. Yeah, whatever like that literally how much of a leap they made it was and now the hot 97 is Obsolete straight and I mean you look at like what's the fact that you guys don't even know it like this was the fucking radio hot 97 every day. That's my word. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 01:17:06 Was it who was the everybody their mother flex Angie Martinez? Star and buck wilds. I mean it was just and they would have like Jay's everybody would go in there promote talk crap Job with that whole beef the whole it was it was insane And the music that they played was absolutely ridiculous. They played all the hot stuff So in LA that would have been power 106. Yeah Yeah, are they still as relevant as they were or not even it's not even they're not even in the conversation Wow, and that's in Charlemagne's doing you're saying headshots all of them One shot one and one guy what man what makes what what makes him special what what is what is he
Starting point is 01:17:47 is he's just the smartest guy in the room and doesn't act like it but he is and he's just naturally hilarious but he can also write so that he can write funny shit and be funny off the cuff a lot of times who can be funny off the cuff but like them putting together like down and like writing prose might be difficult Yeah, and like but he'll do the donkey of the days you've seen the dog Yeah, if you want to just write the whole thing out or he'll just kind of riff it But he also is just really in tune with culture and he just knows how to like mess with people plant seeds Harvest them later. He's just he's that good. He's elite elite elite at it and he just came into a new market and fucking He's that good. He's elite elite elite at it, and he just came into a new market and fucking
Starting point is 01:18:30 Haymakers did and it's radio is is not a game Radios, I'm he was like attacked like it's like physical violence comes a little Kim thing though right when he sits Maybe you might punch him in the street And say that about little Kim something like that. I don't know exactly where it was, but they chased him It was his watch is he he's a loved and hated guy, right? He's a guy that's loved and hated, but that's probably part of his name. You want passionate reactions. You don't want lukewarm reactions. But how much of it, because obviously we follow him, we talk about him. I'm not going to lie, I've been critical about him. How much of it though, Andrew, is like, because he pushes... He'd be cool with that, by the way, he would be cool with that. Yeah, and I guess, oh boy, and I'd go back forth with him live in front of his face.
Starting point is 01:19:08 I think a lot, sometimes though the rhetoric of, you know, the systemic racism and you know, I get it, the anti-Trump and I think a lot of that, if it is an act, so to speak, to push people, I think it does more harm than good when you're trying to make people like, we're talking about how dope America is for somebody That's as successful. He is as a black dude that even wrote a book I forgot what it was like you saying that this country is so bad and so how did you do it? Yeah, did you slip through the cracks? Yeah, and every nobody everybody else is screwed But you're the man to do it and I and I get it I get people cuz bro that shit sells the
Starting point is 01:19:45 Colin Kaepernick angle of okay. I don't got a job anymore. I'm not that nasty of football anymore. Guess what everybody's racist You're racist. Hey mom and dad you're racist You're the white parents that adopted him y'all racist cuz I'm trying to sell a book I think sometimes when it comes to that type of Rhetoric, I don't think I think it does more harm than good instead. I hear you 100% like but I would also say like Charlemagne has been very critical of cap And very critical of the Biden administration's like I see Charlemagne pop up on my Fox News feed more than any other Comment there and it's just because he's the only one that's on the left keeping it real with Biden
Starting point is 01:20:23 Like he's going first of all, he called out Kamala live on his show. I remember that. So it's like there's a lot. It's very easy to just like like not saying you're doing this, but there are people that like handpick things saying about Trump as if he's not saying way more about Biden, which is the Democratic Party is his party. He's more critical of his party. He's not just being alarmist about about Trump
Starting point is 01:20:45 He don't fuck with Trump, but you cannot fuck with people. Yes, you're allowed to do that Yeah, but what I respect is instead of turning a blind eye to the Democrats He holds the fire to them while he's also saying hey this guy because he really thinks Trump is gonna be like a tyrannical dictator Just like like Robert De Niro talking about they're gonna come after me But De Niro with all due respect is like an actor. You know what I mean? Like and he's Hollywood at this point He has to sing the narrative. It's yeah, maybe it's Holly. Maybe it's not but he's also like, you know actors But you jet you genuinely believe that the Charlemagne genuinely believe that Trump is gonna be a dictator cuz again cuz he It's from South Carolina. Like you have to understand understand He's probably more conservative like Tim Scott is his boy like he's friends with all these guys like he's friends with these politicians
Starting point is 01:21:31 Nancy grace came to my birthday party. Do you know who Nancy grace is? She's like just randomly this woman walked in and I'm like aren't you the UFO? So like he's interfacing no, is that hurt no not Nancy Grace who's the UFO one that said Nancy Nancy Grace used to be on CNN or She's a congresswoman that like Was just on Bill Maher Nancy Macy, yeah, so it's like he's like interfacing with all these people but he's such a High-profile figure that if he says anything critical about Trump or if he speaks about the importance of Diversity and the importance or how systemically racist America is I think a lot of times there's this this this spotlight
Starting point is 01:22:16 Specifically on that but you can speak about those things for sure Like you you should also if you're really passionate about that and you're gonna be way more passionate about than I am because it Affects me less than affects you so I get why you're talking about it You know, I'm still gonna make him a Republican I'm gonna make sure all of it but yeah, but uh, but yeah I think I think he's put it this way like him being that critical of the democratic party is way more of a risk for him. Like he can't that, that hurts him way more, especially within his followers than him saying that systemic racism is there. Yeah. You know, famously, you know, black American knows who Charlemagne the goddess.
Starting point is 01:23:01 They know the black, you know, white America did not know who this dude is Until Joe Biden literally said to his face. Well, if you don't vote for Biden, you ain't black So and I've seen him be critical of trump for sure and even biden he called that comma to her face But now you're seeing the polls. I think historically blacks have voted for the democratic party 85 90 black so fucking with trump now Trump now. Yeah. It's starting to crack. I mean it always starts in Florida. Whatever happens in Florida eventually just makes us when Kodak Black and Lil Pump are voting you know that's they got the movement right there. I mean that's just right there. But how much I'll be honest I think the reason why people non-whites in Florida feel so much more comfortable voting
Starting point is 01:23:46 for Trump or Republicans, they feel less scrutiny than let's say like up in New York, is because you have a immigrant population or descendants of immigrants that come from like, for example, Cubans that are coming from like communism and they're terrified of liberal policies because they feel like it's gonna lead to the communism So now you have people of color that are already staunch Republicans. So other people of color go Oh, I guess it's okay to like adopt this ideology where in New York the idea of being a person of color and being a Republican You you kind of viewed police when I was growing up a little bit more of like a sellout And now I think that that's changing changing I think that's important that it changes I think if you know this guy named 50
Starting point is 01:24:28 cent who apparently whoever he doesn't like you have to kind of investigate right some poet said that once but 50 may vote Trump and if 50 votes Trump it's gonna be very weird I mean he's there. Because he said that, right? And then somebody came back and said something and he had to correct himself. I think it was Mayor Adams with the whole $53 million. Why do I have to pay $53 million credit card to these illegal immigrants? Yet this may be a season for me to vote for him. I had a conversation with Mayor Adams and we'll see if they're gonna figure it out.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Now I gotta find out why Hokel's not doing this. So he kind of, Adams almost threw Hokel under the bus yeah and I want to talk to Hokel so is there is there always that mayor governor competition in in New York going on? I think he's just leveraging it for more funds man. He got the checkbook and he got to find a way to get the check. 50s got it's gonna be how crazy you think things are gonna get between now and November like how how crazy you think it's gonna get fun Gonna get fun What do you think the talking points are it's gonna be immigration? Mm-hmm
Starting point is 01:25:33 I think abortions kind of done I think the Republicans realize it like I think I think I honestly I think a public Republicans realize like oh shit There's a lot of Republicans that kind of like are okay with abortion So we should quiet about this one right here because I think they thought they were gonna get that red wave It happened. It happened. You're right. So I think they moved off of that and now I think it's immigration immigration immigration What else China definitely with tick-tock? economy, yeah, and then economy and then economy and the tricky thing with the economy is it's like How many how many trillion dollars did we print?
Starting point is 01:26:07 Two trillion during COVID? More than that. I think 4.4 trillion in total. Since 2020 to today, since 2020 to today, we've printed around four and a half trillion dollars. Okay. And then inflation is up what?
Starting point is 01:26:20 3.4, it's almost four, Adam. Did it drop down to three something? Well, if you believe the numbers, it's at 3.5%. Num's almost four Adam did it drop down to three some well if you believe the Numbers there it's numbers came out and I have to seek the real inflation number was 18 8 and they're saying the real numbers today's 10.8, but that's what charts came up right now Let's go over 18 or 10 guy printing 4 trillion mm-hmm for a ten percent loss in money Seems pretty good
Starting point is 01:27:04 Fucking kidding me like four trillion dollars got printed and we lost ten percent of the value Something good happened now. I don't know what happened. I don't know when we're gonna pay for it. Maybe we're peeing on ourselves It's warm now eventually run out of pee and it's gonna get really fucking cold and uncomfortable, but this idea That the current economy is destroyed. I Don't know if I hundred percent subscribe to stock market up. Yes There are there there are grocery items that are very expensive and people cannot eat I'm not trying to have a lack of empathy for that I have all the empathy in the world for that what I'm trying to say is any other government in the world that prints
Starting point is 01:27:38 4.4 trillion dollars falls apart overnight Argentina does it There's no fucking cash in the ATMs. It is a problem I Guess we got to give some credit where credit is due I don't know what type of financial instruments are at play here, but that is a pretty remarkable feat No, but this is why Biden is an absolute moron because if by if Trump had more economy right now
Starting point is 01:28:03 He'd be shouting from the news. This is why Trump is a great marketer. The best economy ever. Stock market 25%. Inflations down to all time lows, unemployment all time. Biden's talking about shrink flation and that you don't have enough Snickers and the Ritos.
Starting point is 01:28:18 His messaging is horrible. Democrats don't understand marketing. They don't understand marketing. Trump will be shouting at the rooftops, I'll great the economy right now. Universally known, United States has bounced back from any major economy in the world. It did better than a company. It's COVID Oh, yes. Yes. Here's a moment of pride like here's a moment for where instead of having this like bickering in fighting and Focusing on how horrible things are we can go look how fucking resilient the greatest economy in history is is that we were able to bounce back from something that should have absolutely
Starting point is 01:28:47 Tanked and crippled any other country in the world and we fucking did it. Are there still some struggles? Yes Do we still have some bumps and bruises? Yeah, but look at this fucking machine that we built gotta be careful with it though Man, talk to me. What am I missing? Because I know nothing even even when even when Trump did it I was not Because remember when Andrew Yang was running and he was talking about the, you know, UBI, universal basic income and hey, we're going to give everybody $1,000 a month and we tested it out in Alaska and he went through all these other places that they did this with. Anything from that standpoint where money's going to be printed and sent to people, you're going to teach the wrong habits to people. They're going to be printed and sent to people, you're gonna teach the
Starting point is 01:29:25 wrong habits to people. They're gonna be sitting around waiting for it. But sometimes the pain you don't see for a while, like when you're talking about the whole peeing thing, you don't see it for a while, right? It's warm. You're comfortable. You're outside like, man, I'm gonna warm myself up real quick. And then 30 minutes later, you're like, hey man, can I borrow your pants for a while?
Starting point is 01:29:43 Or pee on me. Or pee on me. No, no. Or can you pee on me? Yeah, pee man, can I borrow your pants bra and freeze my ass up? Or pee on me. Or pee on me. No, no, can you pee on me? Yeah, pee on me because I'm getting cold. So the point there becomes the way to fix it is you're delaying the time bomb and a problem. I wasn't for low interest rates, 0% or whatever we had for as long as we went on our 28-month
Starting point is 01:30:02 expansion. I wasn't for printing up the money. I don't think mortgage rates need to be 3%. I think a good place for us to stay for a while is 6%, 7%, 8% to make that a tradition for a few years. I think we even need to go higher to say anybody buying a house, no more 100% financing. I think it's got to be minimum 25%, 20% financing. Now if you do that valuation of my properties drops, but I think that's
Starting point is 01:30:25 the responsible thing for us to do moving forward. I don't think we're going the right direction when it comes down to finances and that's left and right. Easiest way, I'm reading a book and one of the things that we have like for example There are countries like Philippines and other places in the world that 90% of the homes people live in nobody owns Because it takes so long to Document the fact that that's your house So so you're talking about like hey I
Starting point is 01:31:05 want to start a business takes two and a half years to even get the DBA to become incorporated or etc. In America boom boom boom boom boom. Online. So the speed of competing with our way of getting things registered and then tracking them those things we don't think how effective that whole concept is, these, you know, the structure is, the infrastructure is. So that can probably withstand more, right? Like if you're fully taking care of 19 out of 20 metrics of your health in an incredible way,
Starting point is 01:31:39 in the one way you're not taking care of it, that one way cannot do anything to the other 19 dramatically, but then if gradually go to 18, 17, 16, I think printing off the money, immediate solution, at any point right now that if you want to win an election, it's a very easy way of saying it. We're going to pay off the college tuition, we're going to do this, we're going to, oh my God, what a great guy.
Starting point is 01:32:00 Fastest way to get elected. Doesn't necessarily make it the best policy long term. I think, yeah, I think you're right I guess yeah that that makes that makes most sense. You said something right there. I think was really important though You're like, I think the interest rates should be six seven percent Maybe even nine ten percent and you go I understand that maybe my home goes down in value But that's the best thing for the country That's putting
Starting point is 01:32:25 the country or your identity or your values ahead of profit and That is the identity that if we could all subscribe to then we could be protected from manipulation from abroad If you know what i'm saying like for sure That's the that is the power of having like a moral compass And I don't know if that comes from religion. I don't know if it comes from like family I don't know whatever it comes from maybe it's a collection of all of them, but like that moral compass
Starting point is 01:32:55 Allows us to go okay. We're gonna sacrifice a little bit right now for the greater good And that is gonna protect us all in the long term and it's not like a government enforced Yeah, so that's where it gets a little fucked me is it's like the government goes you must give me Ten more percent of your money. You're you're basically going no, I'm willing to give ten percent How do you get people to do that? How do you get people to submit? So check this out. I mean, you know when you when you think about 1962 and a half okay when you think about two companies Can you go find out when Walmart was founded Walmart was founded 1962 and a half
Starting point is 01:33:33 Yep, and go look at one Kmart was founded. I think Kmart is also 1962 and a half Kmart was founded when which company is it that Kmart is 1899. Damn. What is the one that... Okay, so check this out. Let's go with Kmart. Let's go with Kmart against Walmart. In 1962, Walmart gets started. Kmart already has 250 locations, okay? Walmart has nothing. Fast forward five years later, Walmart only has nine locations. Kmart's nearing 300 locations. Kmart against Walmart. Fast forward to today. Kmart was a behemoth. That's the super discount store in 1962. Because the original company was different than the 1962 year.
Starting point is 01:34:18 1962 was when everything with the super saving centers came out. Target, Walmart Walmart Kmart and Where you buy a lot of shit and as this guy versus a smaller ones, right and At the head who takes the lead Kmart takes the lead. Yeah, I came out Walmart the discount store class of 1962 Kmart takes the lead Walmart five years later nine stores Kmart money money money money money money Fast forward to today Kmart when it came art file bankruptcy. Can you find out when Kmart file bankruptcy? Can you go to when did Kmart file bank bankruptcy? What year was it? Yes, but it was kind of recent guys Do you remember everywhere in 2002 Kmart file bankruptcy right 20 years? Do you remember everything was Kmart everything?
Starting point is 01:35:04 Do you know how many employees Walmart has today? Two and a half million people. Do you know Walmart? The Sam Walton had three kids. Okay. Do you know what his poorest kid has worth? $74 billion billion. Yeah. Yeah. Type in Walton's or all type in 70 billion plus Horace Walton child, poorest Walton kid is worth $74 billion. Can you put in just Walton family net worth? Walton family net worth. I don't know what they look like. That's the best.
Starting point is 01:35:33 You have no idea. They could be in the room right now. 267 billion combined is the family. So when you think about these guys, and by the way, all their net worth is around $74, $75, $76. But what do you think about these guys, and by the way, all their net worth is around $74, $75, $76. But what do you think about? What did Walmart do? He was a long-term thinker.
Starting point is 01:35:50 And they weren't trying to accelerate. I had a guy over at the house two days ago, and we're having this meeting, pretty heavyweight guy, guy that in the media space he's known, technology space he's known. And we're talking about different media companies because we think right now is a great time to disrupt and he wants to know what my strategy is. And I'm kind of going through with him and I'm telling them story. I'm like I'm watching everybody. I'm watching everyone's case study, what they're doing, what this guy's doing, what that guy's doing, what they're wasting money. They're paying a lot of talent money right now. Look at Spotify.
Starting point is 01:36:19 They paid a lot of money to Bruce Springsteen and Obama. Can you imagine what two names are bigger than music and politics than to Bruce Springsteen and Obama. Can you imagine what two names are bigger than music and Politics and Obama and Springsteen your lady you cancel that how many what the last name is the most powerful last name with the most Followership on Instagram Kardashian your lady you cancel that you got all of these people that go there and you keep one guy And you pay that got 250 million dollars Why because that guy is actually bringing in numbers, right? So many people in the media space, overpaid, overpaid, overpaid, overpaid, overpaid, now they're like, how do we get a return on our money?
Starting point is 01:36:54 Money were capped out, right? Versus actually philosophy. I think as Americans, we need to not fall for the trap of free college this, free this, free that, free this. If we do, long term. But the reality is when you say the, you know, people vote with their pockets and 90% of the people do, all of us, you know, we look at the policies that benefits us, we look at that.
Starting point is 01:37:16 But I think at this point right now where we are with all this money being printed, economy looks better, it looks fancy, it looks sexy on the outside. But. Yeah, there is the big but. And just go- When does the but happen? Sorry. No, no, no, no, no, fancy, it looks sexy on the outside. But yeah, there is the big but. And just what does the but have? Sorry. When does the but happen? When does the but happen? You know, we had this conversation with, was it with you? No, no, I had it with Bill you, Tom Bill you, Tom Bill, you're very interesting interviewer. I really like it, like his stuff. We had a very good conversation together when I was in LA
Starting point is 01:37:46 Guy build a billion dollar company by the way It's got a YouTube channel with a few million subscribers very very good at what he does him and his wife there by the way their media company is on the first floor of their some 20 million dollar house on the hills of a Hollywood over sick, and it's a sick house, right? And we're having this conversation. He says, I said to fix this mindset is going to take 20 years. He says, but do you think we can do that in the American system since the president's is only four and eight years because it's constantly going to be changing?
Starting point is 01:38:20 It's not an easy thing to do, right? With our current system, because Trump comes in four years. Hopefully God. His policies are choking Iran. Iran's about to topple and things are going to change. Then the next administration comes in. Economy's grown, then manipulation with China comes in, with Wuhan lab. There's no way this comes from the lab and all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:38:42 It's way, way, way too divisive and divided right now politically. And I don't know, even yesterday Trump said something about DeSantis. You've already beaten DeSantis and you're bragging about how bad you want to, how you put him out of business. Yeah, play from like the 30 second mark or the 20 second mark. Maybe go a little bit back there. Play this clip you're not getting it yeah anyways he's calling out the way you know killing the Santas before he even gets into the competition you you you you first here it is right here
Starting point is 01:39:18 room paid advisors sir you shouldn't talk to them about that. One of the people said, they said, are you going to run against the president? He said, I have no comment. To me, that meant he's running. So I hit him hard. I hit him low. I hit him high, just like we did to ISIS. We hit him hard. We hit him low.
Starting point is 01:39:37 We hit him high. We hit him in the middle. We hit him from on top. He came under the ground. We hit this guy so hard. By the time he announced, nobody knew what the hell happened. They said what happened to him He's a shell of the man Shouts do you think he's from a comedian standpoint? Yeah, meaning he's a brilliant marketer. He's a great speaker
Starting point is 01:39:59 You actually think he's genuinely funny Yeah, and he's just a great cadence like his voice is no one talks like him No, Bobby ever his rhythm nobody has yeah So he's just like a really unique speaker and it's fun because the sentence never really finishes or starts It just kind of The compliment he gave to Biden yesterday of what he's you play the compliment rock Oh, this is probably one of the best. Yeah, like this light should be watching this Telling you he's the worst president we've ever had and the most incompetent president
Starting point is 01:40:34 We've ever had and he's also the most crooked president. We have ever had now other than that. I think he's doing an excellent job Now, other than that, I think he's doing an excellent job. Can we play? Adam, to answer your question, that's comedy, bro. Well, he's Don Rickles to me. Yeah, but- It's a type of insult comedy. That was basically Don Rickles' shit. Yeah, but the fact that Americans can't, on the left, they can't, like, he's supposed
Starting point is 01:40:59 to be presidential. It's like, bro, it's Donald Trump. The left finds him funny. They just won't admit it. Yeah, exactly. But the left finds him funny. If just won't admit it. Yeah, exactly. But the left finds him funny. If you're a human, you'll like it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:07 So just going back from what we were talking about, about the, when you said it's going to be interesting and crazy, right? This 2024. So for argument's sake, for, if it is Biden and him, I think Trump on a landslide from the no wars in Palestine, the Russia, Ukraine, China doing what it's doing, the borders, illegals. Like remember when he went up against Hillary, he brought all of Bill's victims up there. That was savage.
Starting point is 01:41:31 That was a beast move. That was the most savage thing. Ridiculous. I think now- Bill's never recovered from that. With Lake and Riley and all these people that are being getting murdered and raped, these young girls,
Starting point is 01:41:40 I'm pretty sure he's gonna bring them up. Do you think it's cause we, you know, he's bet Tom, and we have a bunch of stuff going on. Do you think it's cuz we you know, he's bet Tom and we have a bunch of stuff Going on do you think Andrew from your heart of hearts? Is it gonna come down to this dude? They're gonna inject by didn't help, you know, he'll try to make it through these Debates or do you think you know DNC convention? They're gonna do a switcheroo somebody else is gonna come in a new sum or what? What do you think is good? If you have to bet you think it's gonna be Biden or you think it's gonna be Biden, or do you think it's gonna be some other surprise? I think Biden runs.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Yeah? Yeah, I think Biden runs. Yeah, I think, yeah, I don't know why he would want to. I mean, he did it. He fulfilled the career politician objective, right? Like, dedicated himself to the brand for, you know, 50 years, 70, or however fucking long he's been president. And then he got to be president.
Starting point is 01:42:24 You did it, like it like check out right? Yeah, you're 80 something years old just enjoy your life, but yeah, I think he runs, and I think Trump beats him I think I think Trump beats him. I think yeah Trump has become much more likeable And this is how Trump can win things like he's he's not as he's a good winner He's not as good a leader as he is a winner Like he can win because he's a great insult comic, right? He can point out why these things are horrible or these guys are bad But leading is not that leading isn't being the insult guy leading is like getting everybody on board
Starting point is 01:43:01 Committed to the same task and then taking them to the you know finish line And I think that's what he kind of struggled with when he was president. He was like, okay. Well, who do I? on board, committed to the same task, and then taking them to the finish line. And I think that's what he kind of struggled with when he was president. He was like, okay, well who do I make fun of? Who do I call short? Who do I call fat? Like what's going on?
Starting point is 01:43:13 And we're like, no, you don't have to do that. You're in charge. Just tell us where we're gonna go. Take us to the promised land, dude. Right there, like you already beat the Santas. Leave them alone. You've already beaten them. But that's what he knows how to do and that's what works totally get it
Starting point is 01:43:28 But if he if he I'd here's what I'd love to see but first of all, you know, I think I Think it's not even a question whose policies produce better results in a better America at this point. We have case study It's not like it's hidden Maybe somebody could have guessed it in 2016 and said Biden would be a better president than Trump and we would have said what maybe you're right We don't know now We know there is no more like put the four four great like, you know, the LeBron James Michael debate You can put it in so many different perspectives. It's Michael, right?
Starting point is 01:43:59 It's we don't need to have that conversation new age does we can have the facts to back it up It's why nobody ever said Kareem was the greatest of all time and cream had a lot of amazing stats and nobody ever said Oscar Robertson had the it was the greatest of all time He had the triple double two seasons or whatever it was that he had right? Isn't it funny that the only people saying LeBron or better never watched Michael Jordan play basketball? Yeah, by the way, did you see the weird weird? You know, what's the craziest thing they ran a poll of current NBA players because they didn't watch Michael play. They're all kids. No, no, no, no Rob, did you see this? They ran a poll of current NBA players. Who's the greatest basketball player of all time?
Starting point is 01:44:36 Do you know what the poll turned out to be? Well, it's definitely by a mile Current active clear player Yeah, of course. Check this out. In an anonymous study by the Atlantic Survey, 103 current NBA players, results found that the vast majority, 58.3, found Michael Jordan as the greatest, LeBron 33, Kobe was third at 6.8. Current.
Starting point is 01:44:59 Makes sense. So anyways, but going back to this, now that we have the data and you have a case study of both of them, put them together. The score is you win by three touchdowns. Like you put 28 to seven, you win by three touchdowns. And I'm being friendly here because of all the fear and Jews are actually thinking about leaving the Democratic Party to vote for Republicans. Can you imagine how weird that is? That's a very, very weird.
Starting point is 01:45:25 Oh, they're gone. Yeah, that is a very, very weird. And by the way, when he says they're gone, and he'll say, yeah, but it's not a big deal, we're a small community. You ain't got a small influence, bro. Your influence is a very different kind of influence. The documentaries and movies that are going to come out in the next three, five, ten, twenty, thirty years, they're going to document how this thing was handled at this era. Anyways,
Starting point is 01:45:51 Trump is most likely going to win minus the October surprise and there's gonna be a September surprise and there's gonna be a August surprise. You get the idea. There's gonna be a lot of surprises he's gonna get. But I think he has the concept of redemption to try to unify, he's got strong enough of a personality to be able to do that this time around because even the haters, some of them that were haters that would have never voted like that. One video I saw the other day, I think it was MSNBC, one was a husband and wife, black family. I sent it to him right now. Do you have it where?
Starting point is 01:46:23 That's so sick that I sent it to him like two minutes ago. The BET host is like, so who you voting for? The husband's pro-Trump and the wife. Oh, that's the one. It's actually a great progression. Yeah. This is a, I'm so happy to butt that up. And what the wife says at the end. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, I love it. That's crazy. So look at the host. The host doesn't know what the hell is going on. It's too long, Rob. You can't show the whole thing. Just to begin, just to begin, I think it's the part. Donald Trump. Who you voting for, yeah? Hillary Clinton. That's who you voted, yeah. 2020.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Donald Trump. Biden. And who will you vote for in 2024? Donald Trump. Donald Trump. Wow, look at that. Wow. Yeah, so you, so the point is people are coming to this side,
Starting point is 01:47:01 so all I'm saying is that you don't need to do that. You don't need to do that. Sometimes like as a, when I'm in sports, when you play and you're younger, sometimes kids come out the game timid, right? And then when you're a professional player, you come out and you kind of know what you're doing. But then the famous thing is what?
Starting point is 01:47:22 Let the game come to you. He doesn't need to play like the way he played in 2016. Go Trump. Yeah, he doesn't need to do that. You're gonna win. But the way you're playing... Lead us. Yeah, you have a shot at doing that. Just lead us, man. And listen, there's a version of it where he can do that effectively. You know, he's led companies for the majority of his life. Let's see. But I think it's got to be, lead us.
Starting point is 01:47:48 Instill that American exceptionalism. Get us excited. Still be funny. Still be funny. We want you to be funny. Say funny shit. Be entertaining. Yeah, and again, and people always go, oh, you guys are just, no, no, I'm critical too,
Starting point is 01:48:02 because he was up there on that same speech going after, I'm going to make China do, and a hundred percent tariffs, like bro, what do you, leave them, like the last time you were talking shit about China, a virus came out of fucking Wuhan. Shut, don't, don't give the enemy any, just stay, I'm with you guys, be quiet, don't, don't bring it out there, it's like let the game come to you, because they're going to be coming after him. But in all in his defense though, from what they've been doing from 2016, it's going to be 2024, right? You got to be, you have to give them a little bit of leeway for being furious at everybody. What did Obermann say to him this last week? Keith Obermann.
Starting point is 01:48:38 Elon Musk tweeted. So this is, and again, this tactic, this tactic that made made Trump this angry like pissed off person that wants revenge He did the speech and he said when it comes to this like it's gonna be a bloodbath meaning, you know with all the all the Illegals coming in and Obermann took this one little part out Andrew and made him seem like He is going to if he comes in it's gonna be a bloodbath as in he as in he's going to be killing people, and they fact-check them, and then Elon fact-checked them too. And this is that thing that we were talking about, the news is already out. Millions of people, like we talked about the RFK thing on the late night, everybody took that quote, and they're like, oh my God, Donald Trump is going to do a bloodbath when he comes in. But then Elon and all these guys put the actual full speech in context. But dude, this is Obermann. Keith Obermann has Trump derangement syndrome more than anybody I've ever seen in my life.
Starting point is 01:49:33 But yes, while you're looking for that, if I can just give some credit to, and we look, we have a lot of brilliant political minds here left, right, you know, leave it to a comedian to come out here, basically say really what's going on because there's a big difference between campaigning when you're not in office when you're actually governing when you're in office. Trump, you know, doing the insult comedy thing, that's going to get eyeballs. That's going to ingratiate some to a lot of people who understand there are problems in America, but there's a big difference when you're actually at the podium being the president, you have to unify. What are you calling it? Being a dug guy? Diffuse you defuse unified glue. The problem is, you know, you can't teach an old dog new tricks He's such that Don Rickles type character and the media is gonna attack him the left's gonna attack them. The woke's gonna attack him
Starting point is 01:50:16 It's really hard to be that guy from going to insult him. Come on guys I guess what you know what for for our business. It's better for him to be this way Let me say so because they watched the podcast so for our business the more you do this the more stories we have Yeah, but I'm telling you for the sake of America. Yeah, when you're in just do your part best word You said what a what a way of putting it Winning leading yes, right winning leading your winner now, you know apply some leading is tough Yeah, right tough, you know because You're an example of that leadership every single second of the day
Starting point is 01:50:57 And if you don't live up to that we will call you out on it You're like you're asking us to live this life. But look at you. You're living like that We're constantly looking for the hypocrisy that so we don asking us to live this life, but look at you, you're living like that. We're constantly looking for the hypocrisy that so we don't have to live up to those values. That's, I mean, that's why leadership with religion comes from God, because when it's from a dude, we're like, bro.
Starting point is 01:51:16 Like, I mean, even Jesus was like, yo, I'm a man, I'ma fuck up, you're gonna fuck up, we're all gonna fuck up, right? The idea is we fuck up. That's the idea, and that's relatable. We're like, all right, thank God. I'm gonna fuck up? Okay, is we fuck up mm-hmm. That's the idea and that's relatable like alright. Thank God I'm gonna fuck up. Okay good. I feel a little bit better that guy up there He doesn't fuck up, so I'm gonna try my best to be like him, but I know I'm gonna fuck up mm-hmm and Yeah, leadership is so hard from men because we are fallible so but those that can do it really well
Starting point is 01:51:42 It's a really magical feeling man Really magical feel I want I wanted to sure, for us to do this podcast, I never want to do this without giving some kind of council advice to kind of help you with your career. I know the next phase where you're going with negotiation, I think I have the right person to negotiate on your behalf. And if he's willing to represent you, I don't think you're gonna find somebody better this guy named Don Lemon who when he was asking Elon Musk about being signed by X I don't know if you know what he asked for I want to unpack it for you to kind of take notes because when you're going through you got to make sure you got to ask this stuff
Starting point is 01:52:18 so he wanted a free Tesla Cybertruck he wanted five million and eight million salary Elon Musk has compared a former CNN Don Lemon to spoiled child from Charlie and Chocolate Factory after a report claiming the TV host made a series of contractual demands before his new show streaming on X. Lemon allegedly requested a Tesla's $8 million salary and an equity stake in X together with a $5 million upfront payment on top and a posting on X on Friday night Musk simply wrote Don Veruca salt lemon. What did he say? Veruca salt is the one that goes I want it now. Remember the girl that falls with the goose egg?
Starting point is 01:52:58 In reference to the character from the 1970 film that sees the younger youngster making clear her wants as she belts out I want it now lemon is alleged to have demanded a flight to a private jet flight together with a suite for him and his fiance according to New York Post in addition it is claimed lemon asked for X to pay for a day of drinking and massages the post reported like that like who is Don Lemon? Like, bro, Don Lemon is so not relevant for him to be like, yo, I want steak inside of X. Are you f-ing kidding me, bro? I'm trying to understand why Elon would pick Don. Like, I don't think Don was ever a
Starting point is 01:53:39 respected political voice on the left Like I don't disagree. I like but but maybe it's kind of like hey, you know, I I'll bring a maybe in his mind strategically is This is my Alex Jones of the left you guys are up that I read Alex on it's kind of like look I also got another guy here from the other side. Yeah, that's going to be here. I love both sides. I think it's great to have a Tucker and to have somebody else. But I never looked at Don as even a journalist. I just thought he was like a prompter reader. Exactly what he was. That's exactly what I didn't know that he had like a political opinion like Tucker has a political opinion. Right? Did Don ever have a political opinion? No, he was a propagandist. He just literally said whatever was coming in through his earpiece. He was saying yeah, I just didn't know I
Starting point is 01:54:30 Maybe I wasn't no you're right You're 100. I don't think Don and Tucker are equals regardless of what their political points of view are I don't think they're equals and two equals in terms of their like ability to influence culture who would be the left Tucker while right now or now Centrist like I think Tucker is Very right not very right but more right than top then John is left who that's a great Center as far as name recognition, you've got John Stewart. You've you got Bill Maher you've our friend Cuomo
Starting point is 01:55:06 I'm done Don Lemon to me is delusional like the fact that he's making demand the fact that his name is even mentioned in the Same sentence as Elon Musk at this point Don Lemon is like a hot chick who's washed up and he's like I deserve the world It's like girl. Nobody's buying you anything at this point. Girl. We'd be Jake Tapper. Yeah, you know, you know, I gotta tell you man I I don't know that I was You know, I was he wrote in one of the articles he was being interviewed So since you've been away, what have you been listening to Rob? You send this to me? I think when this happened He says yeah, I've been listening to PBD podcast. I'm like Don Levin said in an interview that he was
Starting point is 01:55:45 He was listening to the podcast from like, okay, maybe he was in a What do you call it in a? In a shelter place. Yeah, it's kind of like all you know is you know, uh You know the left and all the stuff that CNN is feeding you and all these things anyways Right there down Go a little lower zoom in a little lower. It's like amongst his favorite recent podcasts favorite includes very conservative PBD podcast Very! Daily Water, Ben Shapiro and his takes on Israel and all this stuff and he watches Pierce Morgan all these things. Okay
Starting point is 01:56:21 So I'm like, okay cool Pierce Morgan I think has done a phenomenal job the last six months if you ask me. He's had a resurgence man. Yeah phenomenal and you know I put Pierce and Shannon Sharpe in the same league in the last six months I think Shannon's like in a different way Shannon's absolutely killing it. So but the point is I was hoping for this to come out and be like hey here's you know what's going on. I had a blind spot.
Starting point is 01:56:48 I had this, I had that. But then you double down on arrogance. It's not attractive. He's a diva. Yeah, it's not a diva. And then the guy that is giving you the offer, you go talk to him like you're interrogating him. It's a turn off.
Starting point is 01:57:02 But I did not know he made all those asks. And I didn't know that Ilan agreed to give him all those things. Oh, did he agree or this was like, I don't know if he agreed. I think he gave him the platform to come on, but then when this deal came out, he was like, no, I'm not doing any of that. Right after the end of the interview, he's like, I'm done. Are offers off the table or whatever? I think it was something where they were about to make a deal.
Starting point is 01:57:24 Yeah, that was the main ask. I'm pretty sure they negotiated it to something different. Can I ask you something, Andrew? Let's wrap up on this. So, for you, you have a guess. What did you see? What did it put up? The tweet. Elon is... He's funny too, bro. So for you, you have a guest that comes on. And let's say you're somebody that you do a deal with Elon. Elon says, Andrew, we want you on X. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:54 Okay, cool. You make a deal with him. You interview with him. Okay. And you're going through the process. What are the basic rules or even the unspoken like you know when 50 said I'm 17 years old the guys that are working for me I only have enough money to pay them but if I don't pay them I lose my influence so I paid him and I
Starting point is 01:58:13 was broke but I made sure they didn't know about it. That kind of street wisdom you can't you know you have to have but also in the interview in the in this game of building the relationship and moving up you also have to be careful to not You know you ask the questions you go through some of the questions that you're curious about but you also want to maintain that relationship right What do you think are some of the? You know approaches that don could have taken to not interrogate
Starting point is 01:58:40 Elon the way he did so he could have had a longer relationship with Musk you could build respect first Elon the way he did so he could have had a longer relationship with Musk. You could build respect first Because I don't think Elon is against getting hard-hitting questions like he's hit with them every single day every interview I imagine that he does somebody's gonna ask him a really difficult question But maybe build a little bit more respect what I'm assuming is because Don had the deal with Elon and Elon has now been positioned as this right-wing guy, and Don was this darling of the left, I imagine that his ego probably made him think
Starting point is 01:59:12 that in order to prove to his constituents that he isn't now sold out, that he's gonna come out really hard on his now employer to prove to all his followers, hey, I'm still authentic. I'm still rocking for my beliefs, et cetera. And maybe that was a miscalculation because maybe he is a really thoughtful, intelligent dude and maybe Elon saw something in him and realize, hey, he'd be a great asset on this
Starting point is 01:59:37 platform and now he has a little bit more freedom to kind of be the person that maybe Elon knows him to be. Maybe he knows something about him that we don't know. But I think that there is a way to ask people hard questions with it in a little bit more elegant manner. And but also there's like a sometimes I feel like with the with the gotcha questions, there's like a little like sociopathy in it like I feel like you asked somebody to be in your interview and You you have no empathy for how they might feel bringing up something really difficult like it's different when it's a presidential candidate Because they're auditioning for a job But like just somebody that you're interested in then you ask him then you just start banging them with these fucking hard questions
Starting point is 02:00:21 It's like that's still a human being they're're a family, they got these things. So, I don't know, I think a certain amount of elegance when you're getting to that topic is good. That's the key word, elegance. That's the key word, and he lacked it in that interview. And it's about, by the way, this could have been, on a serious note, this could have been, there is not a bigger opportunity he could have had of a person that would have opened up the floodgates for him And I don't even know how he got that opportunity because even if you go to CNN
Starting point is 02:00:54 Cuomo was a face for a few years back to back to back. Yeah, Cooper was the face O'Reilly's face Hannity face Tucker face. I don't know if Don was ever the face. That was always in the bottom 50. I think it was ranked 50, 49 where it was ranked. And they even tried to make the show change and then he had that other show with the girl and all that stuff. And even that got canceled. But I thought this was a great opportunity for him.
Starting point is 02:01:19 Again, another reason why podcasting is a very different game than reading teleprompters. And you run back to CNN for that interview, a little bit disappointed. I thought the approach was going to be different. I got a handful of questions I'd want to ask Don. If Don was wanting to sit down and have a conversation, I got five questions I'd want to ask him. What do you want to ask him? I'll tell you privately, but I don't want to say it because then I want to ask him what you want to ask him I'll tell you privately but I but I don't want to say it because then I
Starting point is 02:01:45 want to ask him because You you all it's I'd like that he just got 25 million dollars right the remaining money I'm gonna try whatever the contract that was paid to him right whatever Money yeah, so he got the remaining money and and then you go back to do the to do the interview with CNN right after your musk interview is over with but There's a there's a part with Zucker may be working on something behind closed doors now He's saying now you're cooking that he's saying hey guys stay tuned. I'm about to announce something
Starting point is 02:02:21 What's the whole thing? We're gonna bring the team together. Bring the band back together? Bring the band together. I think Zuckerman may be doing some conference calls nobody knows about to say we'll bring the band together. With the CNN, the old band? This is great PR right here, right? Yeah, I think it is. And by the way, you know, this is because Cuomo's right now with News Nation and he's enjoying it on the cable side, right? I thought he's coming here. No, non cable is with us. Cable is with News Nation. We're not interested. We're not competing cable. So cable, you do whatever you want to do cable, you know, on the non cable stuff, you're going
Starting point is 02:02:52 to seem a lot more involved to your stuff that we're doing because this guy's going to be voting for Trump. So we need somebody that we can be talking to. We need some more lefties around here. No, no, no. Meaning you're not, I, I don't think you're you're very happy with what Biden's doing and what Biden's America look likes. And you know, the conversation I'm just like Fox. I'm fair and balanced, guys. Everybody knows that about Fox. I mean,
Starting point is 02:03:14 that's spending a lot of time with Dave Rubin. That's what happens when it happens. So but anyways, going going back to this, I think Zucker may be cooking something behind closed doors and they trust Zucker and maybe Zucker is going to do something for cable. And it's election year, it's election year, all these, all these Bill Maars, all these people that we thought two years ago, they were like, oh, they're, they're starting to wake up. Nope. Trump is, Trump is the guy. Trump is going to be the, he is the freaking candidate. Now they're all starting that Trump shit again. He's evil. It's all, that's what he said this year, this year. It's like, bro, it's all this year this year it's like well but I tell you it's
Starting point is 02:03:46 happening again if we are small thinkers and we're confused and all of a sudden Don Lemon says you guys are fools I'm about that I'm about to start the next WME CAA representing people negotiating on their behalf and you guys I'm the I'm the modern-day re Emanuel, I'm the man I'm gonna go broker all these deals and get a bunch of people's cyber trucks and when those Mars looking for new representation these days Yeah, why was that he wasn't invited to the party They don't want him to come to a party and he's like, I'm gonna fire my what is the story Rob? What's the bill? Mar fire CA after Oscar party snub?
Starting point is 02:04:30 He fires CA sources party. Can you imagine that you don't get invited to a party? So you fire your agent says what and with his reps for over two decades and after not being invited to CEO Brian Lord's private Oscar party Time for them to go out of some Saturday night more according to sources was fierce. They were snubbed. There's gotta be something else going on. The party lords at home drew J.J. Abrams, Jose Barry Diller, Kamala Harris, Margot Robbie. Okay. Maybe Kamala said don't have them there. Bob Iger. But who leaked the story? Yeah. Where was it?
Starting point is 02:05:01 Julia Roberts, Jennifer Aniston. Or he leaves them and CAA has to do something to protect themselves So they go. Oh he left because he wasn't invited to a party good boy. He looks like this Hollywood pansy. Oh But he's really upset because contract negotiation with the HBO show isn't going the way he wants to go or something There's so many other things going on here Like I saw that thing about Bruno Mars own 50 million to MGM and I'm like who would leak that?
Starting point is 02:05:33 Yeah, who said like he wouldn't leak that it's embarrassing MGM definitely wouldn't leak that like they're in business together Yeah, I think they have a residency. Yeah, so I'm like why why is this out there? Like what who who wins from this information being placed out there? Right something's going on. Yeah, he's a horrible gambler 50 million in the hole on paper. Listen for Sounds good. Well Schultz Reverend Schult, appreciate you for today. Yes. Showing up. Thank you guys so much.
Starting point is 02:06:09 Guys, everybody out there watching, we're going to pass around the, what do you call it? Tides and offerings. Donation plate. Donation plate and just be ready when you're doing that. But more than anything else, if you heard me say a couple jokes here on, you know, with Schultz, a lot of it was because of the show on Friday night. It was absolutely fricking amazing. Are you, are you, are people able to, do you have any other events coming up that people can go to? Okay. You got LA March 20th, March 30th sold out April 5th, Houston,
Starting point is 02:06:42 April 6th, Dallas. Shit sold out. Okay. Then guys don't go to it because it's sold out. April 5th, Houston. April 6th, Dallas. Shit, sold out. Okay, then guys, don't go to it because it's sold out. Wait for it. Jacksonville, Charlotte, keep going. Atlanta, Nashville. Okay, for sure you have to go watch this. I'm telling you for sure, just take my word for it, go watch it. It's absolutely hilarious. Rob, what website, is this Andrew Scholtz's upcoming date? The Andrew Scholtz.com. It's called The Life Show, right? Yeah, The Life Show. You crushed it, man. Congrats on being a new father.
Starting point is 02:07:11 Thanks. I think that was a lot of what the premise was. And I went and told Mark, I said, Mark, I'm sorry, man. I had no idea you were a big deal. You freaking killed it from the stage. Oh, he's so funny, man. I thought he was amazing. Yeah, yeah. Anyways, take care, everybody. Have a great Sunday.
Starting point is 02:07:23 Yes. And we'll do it again next week. Take care, bye bye bye. Peace.

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