PBD Podcast - Donald Trump Found GUILTY in Hush Money Trial | EMERGENCY PODCAST | PBD Podcast | Ep. 417

Episode Date: May 31, 2024

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick cover Donald Trump being found guilty of 34 counts of falsifying business records in the New York Hush Money trail. THE VAULT CONFERENCE FEAT. PATRICK BET-DAVID & DWAYNE "THE ROCK" JOHNSON: Purchase tickets to The Vault Conference 2024 September 4th - 7th: ⁠https://bit.ly/3X1JBzm⁠ THE MINNECT LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP: Want your shot to win dinner with Patrick Bet-David? Win "The Minnect League Championship": https://bit.ly/4aMAar8 MINNECT: Connect one-on-one with the right expert for you on Minnect: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3MC9IXE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Connect with Patrick Bet-David on Minnect: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OoiGIC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Connect with Tom Ellsworth on Minnect: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3UgJjmR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Connect with Vincent Oshana on Minnect: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/47TFCXq⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Connect with Rob Garguilo on Minnect: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/426IG0R⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ CHOOSE YOUR ENEMIES WISELY: Purchase PBD's Book "Choose Your Enemies Wisely": https://bit.ly/41bTtGD BET-DAVID CONSULTING: Get best-in-class business advice with Bet-David Consulting: https://bit.ly/40oUafz VT.COM: Visit VT.com for the latest news and insights from the world of politics, business and entertainment: https://bit.ly/472R3Mz VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: Visit Valuetainment University for the best courses online for entrepreneurs: https://bit.ly/47gKVA0 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! YOUR NEXT 5 MOVES: Want to be clear on your next 5 business moves? https://bit.ly/3Qzrj3m ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

All right, so if you're tuning in, it's because it's an emergency podcast. Trump found guilty on all 34 counts. We're going to go through a few different things on what others are saying, what the market is talking about, what is this going to look like. We'll share some of our thoughts and then we'll wrap up as well as give you some other people that you may use to ask questions. Let me go through some of these things that just came in. So less than an hour ago, or about an hour ago, Trump found guilty on 34 counts of falsifying

business records in the first degree. This is related to the $134,000 payment to porn star Stormy Daniels by his then personal lawyer Michael Cohen before the 2016 election. Cohen testified during the trial that Trump directed him to pay Daniels in the 2016. Obviously we know what happened with Cohen. Trump's the first former US president to be charged with a crime. If you notice in a marketplace what is very consistent with what everybody is tweeting, they're using the same exact phrase by everybody. felon convicted felon convicted felon convicted felon Remember Russia collusion remember convicted felon remember, you know

Racists remember all this stuff. This is the new two words So we're learning English with these guys on how they're handling it At least maybe for me as EFL guy English as a fifth language the next two words That's gonna be popular the next five months will be convicted, felon. At the debate everywhere. Watch this. Potential jail sentence, four years per each count.

However, Trump could serve the sentence concurrently rather than consecutively, so he could be looking at four or 136 years in jail, according to CNN Judge Merchant, the night Trump's move for an acquittal and sentencing hearing for July 11th at 10 a.m., four days before the RNC in Milwaukee, Trump remains free without trial. The 12 members jury deliberated less than 10 hours over two days before sending out a note to Judge Merchant saying they've reached a verdict. Before the announcement, Trump Trump is lawyers prosecutors reported Expected the jury to be dismissed for the day by at 430

Trump faces three more pending criminal cases in two of these day cases Trump is charged with criminal related to his efforts to overturners 2020 election That's one one of these cases of federal in DC, the others in Georgia and Atlanta. Trump is charged with federal court in Florida with crimes related to his retention of classified government records after he left the White House in January 2021. He also faces a civil judgment in Manhattan court, which we know that about $450 million. Also a couple other for E. Jean Carroll, and he's obviously peeling the verdicts in the three civil cases. Let me share with you what he said when he got out of court. Rob, if you can play that clip.

This is him right after he left the court. Go forward. This was a disgrace. This was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupt. This is a rigged trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupt. It's a rigged trial of disgrace. They wouldn't give us a venue change. We were at 5 percent or 6 percent in this district, in this area.

This was a rigged, disgraceful trial. The real verdict is going to be November 5th by the people. They know what happened here and everybody knows what happened here. You have a sore respect DA and the whole thing. We didn't do a thing wrong. I'm a very innocent man and it's okay. I'm fighting for our country. I'm fighting for our constitution. Our whole country is being rigged right now. This was done by the Biden administration

in order to wound or hurt an opponent, a political opponent, and I think it's just a disgrace. And we'll keep fighting, we'll fight till the end, and we'll win because our country's not in hell. Listen to the questions at the end. Wait for it, it's coming. We don't have the same country anymore. We have a divided mess. We're a nation in decline, serious decline. Millions and millions of people pouring into our country right now from prisons and from

mental institutions, terrorists, and they're taking over our country. We have a country that's in big trouble, but this was a rigged decision right from day one with a conflicted judge. We should have never been allowed to try this case, never. And we will fight for our Constitution. This is long from over. Thank you very much. Listen.

Why should voters vote for a Republican? Tell them. Bingo. Oh no, listen, back up, back up. It's important because this is telling you what their game plan is going to be. Listen very carefully, folks. Go ahead. This is long from over.

Thank you very much. Why should voters vote for a convicted felon? Why should voters vote for a convicted felon? Just remember, that was the first question. Whoever she represented, that voice, that's what they're going to be going with the next four and a half, five months. Okay, so brace for impact. That's what we're hearing. Now go to the market. Let's see what some people are saying. Rob, start off with the people on the left and go to some people on the right,

whoever you have. So okay, Keith Obermann, bingo. Obviously he's a sweetheart. Next, Jeff Tiedrich. Trump is guilty as F. Oops, I meant how terrible as guilty as F Donald Trump. Now go to his profile so people know who he is and what his profile says. Look at his face. It says, don't blame me, I voted for the email lady. You know who he's talking about. Loser. You know where he stands.

Next, Brian Krasenstein. The verdict is in. Guilty on all counts. Trump is officially convicted felon. You're either now planning to vote for convicted felon per president, or you're not stop pretending that the side that is not voting for the felon is a crazy one. If I ask any American 2016 whether they would vote for convicted felon, 99.9% would have said, heck no.

You changed. Not the American justice system. Go to the next one, Rob. Brian Tyler Cohen, guilty, guilty, guilty. Go ahead. Let's see what Don Lemon has. What's Don Lemon's got Rob? Breaking News, guilty on 24, 34 counts.

He is now a convicted felon. Notice the keywords, convicted felon. That's the marketing. Lincoln Project, they have a clip, if you want to play this clip. Is this the same clip Rob? You just had the clip. Yeah, watch this clip from Lincoln Project. Obviously these guys are amazing.

Donald Trump found guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree. You're a criminal Donald. This brand is coming. Pay attention. Not the deep state. Not the Democrats. Not the Biden administration. A jury. Regular people who saw the evidence. And felt sick. You're a criminal. And you did it to yourself. Your defense was weak because you were weak.

They had no argument. Because there is no argument You were too scared to testify because you knew Donald You know You're guilty Guilty of sin Has charged The link the Lincoln project from the How many of them were pedophiles?

Oh, the pedophile, one of them was registered for a Russian agent, and the other ones were cheating on a sexist. Your friend, Steve Schmidt, the United States of America has entered a constitutional crisis. There is no question that there is about this or the consequence of the fidelity we're about to see from the Republican

elected officials to the convicted felon. Go to the next one loser Biden immediately there's only one way to keep Donald Trump out of oval office at the ballot box donate to our campaign today go to the next one No one in this country is above the law. This is the same guy that wraps it pulled the fire alarm And then he got away with it So being convicted for falsifying business records with hush money go to the next one You need to see all this stuff guys now go to what Tucker and some of the people on the writer saying Rob Important the third world became become the third import the third world become the third world

That's what we just saw this won't stop Trump. He'll win the election if he's not killed first But it does mark the end of the fairest justice system in the world. Anyone who defends this verdict is a danger to you and your family. Go to the next one. Megyn Kelly, guilty on all counts. The country is disgraced. Alvin Bragg should be disbarred. They will rule the day they unleash this lawfare to corrupt presidential election.

Go to the next one. What an effing scam. Eff all these commies. Go to the next one. This is a dark day for America. Go to the next one. This is a dark day for America. Go to the next one. It's a, who is this? Ron DeSantis. I'll read this one to you because it's Ron. Today's verdict represents the culmination of a legal process that has been bent to the political will of the actors involved. A leftist prosecutor, a partisan

judge and a jury reflective of one of the most liberal enclaves in America in all effort to get Trump this case involving alleged misdemeanor business records violations from nearly a decade ago was even brought in as a testament to the political debasement of the justice system in places like New York City. This is especially true considering the same district attorney routinely excuses criminal conducts in a way that has been endangered law-abiding citizens in jurisdiction. It is often said that no one is above the law, but is also true that no one is below the law. If the defendant were not Donald Trump, this case would never have been brought, the judge would have never issued similar rulings, and the jury would have never

returned a guilty verdict. In America, the rule of law should be applied to this passionate even-handed manner, not become captive to the political agenda of some kangaroo court. Go to the next one. Biden guilty of abuse of power. Biden guilty of turning our country into a banana republic, where those abuse of power, law to go after political opponents, guilty of undermining our constitution and the freedoms guaranteed therein.

Biden has proven he is unfit for the office of presidency. Anyways, we can say a bunch of different things by a bunch of different people. Trump's website is down right now. If you can go to people wanting to donate so you're seeing how people are reacting. If you can refresh his website so we can just see it, Rob, refresh it. Uh-oh, it's down. Go to the next one. Under maintenance.

Okay, now it's back. Never surrender. Can you now give money or no? If you can go lower, complete my... You can't. Okay, so this one's back up, which means, what does this tell you? Traffic is going so much to the website where people are reacting in a way. Rob, can you go to my last tweet just to kind of give my thoughts?

And then I'm going to come to you guys to get some thoughts here. Here's what I think. This is exactly what my position is with this. It's two things, okay? Number one is, expect two things. Number one, more businesses leaving New York. Just guess what? If you're a business owner in New York, here's the decision you have to make.

For the rest of your life, you can never have conservative political aspirations, and you can't be a billionaire, you can't be aspirational, you can't be too loud, or else they're going to destroy, they're going to try to destroy your life. New York's about to have more business owners leave there. A lot of people I'm talking to who have stayed there asking, there's even people saying, I'm waiting to see what's going to happen here because if it's just a show, circus show, I'm staying. It's not a big deal.

But if they go here, I have to leave because I may be risked five, ten, fifteen, twenty years from now. Number two, polls reacting positively towards DJT's favor. Americans are not dumb. What the left hopes this will do will shockingly surprise them. Future looks bright, but at the same time, stay extremely paranoid. Tom, your thoughts on what happened today and what was announced. Well, this all started with Alvin Bragg, who's a political tool, and he took those misdemeanor counts. We covered it on the podcast. Actually, we covered it a day before it was unfolded in other forums talking about how he had contrived it into a set of things, technically calling it a felony.

And so that's a complete tool. The jury instructions, I could go on in this and there are very learned legal experts and scholars that saying, listen, this is for election year because under appeal and where this is going to go, this is weak. This is weak like Colorado Supreme Court was weak and was ultimately overturned by the Supreme Court. But look, they're also trying to put the sentencing right there four days before the RNC in Milwaukee. So I think what they have done, and I'll quote the Japanese emperor, I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant.

Actually, I don't know if it was the emperor that said that or it was the head of the Japanese Armed Forces. But after World Pearl Harbor, he says, I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant. And I honestly fear for the country because it shows that now in elections, in the greatest democracy in the world, at least one side is so unafraid to do whatever it takes in election, even walking across lines like this. And so that makes me sad for the future, even as I'm very confident on how this is going on appeal, but they don't give a crap about appeal.

What they want is this disruption right now, and they want the word convicted felon. The script is out, and it's used the word convicted felon. Beat him to death with that. Adam. I'm probably not. It's very weird where I'm at with Trump right now. We know I wasn't a fan, but now I'm 100% out on Biden and I've been subtly rooting for Trump. Meaning like, come on man, let's get this thing together. I'm so non-emotional about this that I'm actually just being completely logical about this.

I have zero emotion. People are going to be like, well, fuck you. How can you not? People are going to be like, how could you not hate Trump? Zero emotion, which is crazy right now. I get it. And I'm just looking at the facts. Last week we did a podcast.

We talked about James Comey. We talked about his interview. And do you remember what he said in the story? He said, James Comey, this was the story that was in the media. James Comey predicted that Trump would be convicted in a hush money trial and defends Alvin Bragg bringing the case. I said, wow, this is a pretty big, this is the former director of the FBI. Yes, he's biased. But to come out publicly and say this, I was like, what is this? Is he knows something we don't know?

He said the following. He predicted an interview with Dan Abrams that the former president Donald Trump would be convicted in his hush money trial. This is a week ago. Is this a clip? This is it right here. I think there's an overwhelming chance of a conviction. What do you think is going to happen? I can't imagine there'll be anything about a hung jury, but that's just my actually I have a different tag I guess if there's an overwhelming chance of a conviction a significant but much smaller chance of a hung jury and zero chance of an acquittal why because he knows people why zero chance of No, no, no, why do you think there's more of a chance of a conviction than than a hung jury because they built a very strong Circumstantial case they built a building out of a series of bricks that really couldn't be crossed, because they were documents, they were texts,

they were the words of the defendant before they went to their cooperator at the end. I bet they even debated whether they needed to call Cohen as a cooperator. And that circumstantial case, at least in my experience, having tried a lot of cases, is very, very powerful with the jury. But it seems to me that this is a different kind of case, right?

The typical legal analysis that I end up doing on typical cases doesn't apply here. That the questions that jurors maybe aren't supposed to be evaluating, like, are we really here over a payout to a porn star with the former president of the United States, who's now the Republican nominee, sitting here, this is what this is all about. I think that may factor in to some of the jurors' thinking, even though that's not what the judge is going to instruct them. Maybe. But my gut tells me, in a lot of experience, that they'll be impressed with the way in

which the prosecution Connected to broader themes you can possibly an election to the what are the chances Adam you think? Comey was speaking to Judges and people involved that for him to know what the verdict is gonna be. What do you think? Once an FBI guy wants a CIA guy always going to be? What do you think he was? Once an FBI guy, once a CIA guy, always. What do you think? Highly likely. Okay, highly likely. How about you? Continue, we're on the same page. Cool. So again, I'm just following the numbers here as our friend, the biz doc says, people talk, numbers scream, right? Numbers yell. Words talk, numbers scream. There it is. You know, I did

an episode about two weeks ago when I had people on Sauscast talking about the likelihood of Trump being convicted, not convicted. Here's Trump supporters, here are the numbers, and this is where am I going with the election. I think this is enough to sway the election. I'm sure we'll talk about what the charges will be and look like and what the penalty will be. But 80% of Trump voters said they would still vote for him no matter what. Four percent wouldn't.

4%. 16% said they would reconsider. So what's 4% of how many people voted for Trump last time? 75 million people. So how many, what, how many millions is that? 3.2 million. Okay, listen, all, I mean, right? If you look at the national polls, you know, Trump's up to if you look at the swing states, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,

Georgia, Nevada, he's up five to seven points. Even if this is a, he doesn't go to jail. God, I do not want to see Trump in jail. A hundred percent. I think that's bullshit. I've talked about win the game on the field, not in the pregame, but if these numbers move just a little bit, boom, boom, boom, all of a sudden that 2% is even all of a sudden that 5% is now 2% within the margin of error. We'll see what happens. But I think it's an overall very sad day for our country. Of course, Trump's going to say he's not guilty.

Of course, the people that love Trump are gonna be angry and pissed angry patriots And of course, there's gonna be the left people in the left that are excited for this day. I'm so not on either camp I just want the best for America. Let's see what happened. And by the way while you're talking about this Vinny I'm gonna come to you. This is what Chuck Schumer said. We've talked about this many times We've shown this clip play this clip what Chuck Schumer said about the power of the justice system. Go ahead Chuck Schumer said about the power of the justice system. Go ahead. He's taking these shots, this antagonism, this taunting to the intelligence community. You take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back

at you. So even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he's being really dumb to do this. What do you think the intelligence community would do if they were moving to? I don't know. That should be illegal to say that. I agree 100%. What year was that?

Well, when Trump was in, when Trump was talking about the Department of Justice and how they're all corrupt, mind you. Just find out what year that was. I don't think that was recent. No, of course it wasn't recent. No, it wasn't recent. This is years ago. It doesn't matter.

It was words that he was said. January 9th of 2017. Okay. But that's when he first took office. Came in. Yeah, when he started saying- That's when Comey, to circle back- Of course.

When Comey basically was his guy and then got fired. But when he said- That's what he's referring to. When Donald Trump came and said, the swamp, the deep state, those are who he saw, and that little weasel looking under his glasses, how can you even trust that? That guy represents us in Congress. And I think, listen, PBD, this verdict doesn't humiliate Trump. It's a humiliation on the country, on the United States. And for all the people out

there that I can't see this for what it is, and are like praising and celebrate the Don Lemons, they are the problem. Okay? And lady justice, you guys know who lady justice is, Robbie, that's, so Pat, this lady Justice, this symbolizes fairness and the judicial system, and she's blindfolded because it's impartiality. The scales are to balance weights, evidence to ensure fair judgments. The sword represents the power to enforce justice and the vices of law. And so she's a woman, embodies the virtue of moral integrity, and the robe is judicial authority. It reflects so many of tradition and the legal system. That blindfold is off.

She's finished, because this just shows you how everything, everything that Trump said, the deep state, the people, by the way, the Department of Justice is done. The FBI is a joke. The judges are bought and paid for. Let me ask you a question. The Clintons with everything that they've done, Bill and Hillary, how many charges and how many trials? None. Zero. Okay, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, documents, drugs, crack, guns, how many, PBD? None. Dr. Fauci, probably responsible for millions. Tom, how many? Bush Jr., Dick Cheney,

everything that these people have done with all the deaths with all the blood and all the stuff that they've done this is what you're gonna give the ex-president 35 counts and these people are happy in the street it's a sad day people need I'm so happy that when he said you know how we're gonna do this that's a fighter he said on November 4th that's how we're gonna show them that we're still gonna win and that's it because you said this today you said this today the you said this today, the only other way is, is character assassination. Now they're going after his money.

They've knocked those two out. They will stop at nothingness to stop this guy because he's all for us. He's been saying it since day one. And I've seen videos, Pat, we've all seen this. Everybody out there that's watching this have seen videos of him in the eighties on Letterman on Oprah. All this guy has ever said is, I love America. I love our country.

Everybody's screwing us. China's screwing us. Everybody's screwing us. And now you're seeing what they're doing to him because he loves us. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. Yeah. So Adam said 4%, right?

I think we talked about the 4%. 4% on 75 million is what? 3 million. Exactly. It's 3 million people. So 3,075,000 brings you to 72. Okay. In the middle today, the question then becomes how many Democrats who maybe are on the opposite side of the 4% who are like, dude, you just freaking completely lost it. You're an idiot. I can't even believe you're doing this. Are you freaking kidding

me over something like this? I'm not a Hillary person, but this is ridiculous. What percentage of Democrats are now coming like, dude, come on, this is embarrassing. You're forcing me to not vote. Okay. So vote Trump, go away 4%. I'm not voting for Biden. Okay. Like, no, no, meaning like I'm just stepping away. What's that percent? I actually think the people sitting this one out, a couple podcasts ago, you know how they said 2020 was the most popular podcast of all popular election of all time? 76% turn out of it.

And then you said this is gonna be least? Yes. Okay, I think for the them side, I think it could be a dramatic drop of people that don't want, again, case study. We don't know the stuff like, we're going to find out exactly what's going to happen. But I would be curious to know what percentage are sitting this one out because they're flat out sick of Biden, period.

Then in the middle, take the middle. What percentage of the middle do you think with this has gone this way over this way? What do you think it is? The middle right now is 20 points. Tucker said it's around 20 points. Different people said it's around 20 points. 40-40-20 is what we're looking at. What percentage you think went this way because of this?

Out of the 20, what percentage you think went this way? So these are the middle. These are the independent people that are just in the middle. I think if they have a brain and they're not just tired and anti I think I'll say I'll say right down the middle are going you know what this is ridiculous I'm we're gonna vote Trump the other 10% is going the other way 2020 was what Trump got 75 million and Biden got what? 81 million Okay, so that's that's what 156 right 156 million total votes 20% of that let's just say is what?

20% of 156 is 31.2 million. Out of the 31.2 million, not yesterday, today, what percentage of the 31.2 million do you think just went, this is not fair, I'm going this way? If they were undecided, they're gonna go right. Maybe 10%. Wow. Yeah. So then that's an even swap right there.

Okay. So 10% of the 31.2 is 3.1 million. Okay. You said 4% of the 75 million is 3 million. So this becomes a wash. So then it's an even match to see who's going to win. It's off to the races to see what, if that's what the average person that's watching speculating on that's what they will look at.

Rob, what's this year that you have? What did you want to show? I found this clip. This is from 1981. Yeah. And I wanted to play this as to Vinny's point. If you listen back to Donald Trump in the 80s,'s being asked why would you ever consider running for president? And it's very telling his response and this is 81 1981. He's 34 years already three years ago, okay

I know there's a lot of things that you can do in the years ahead. Why wouldn't you dedicate yourself to public service? Because I think it's a very mean life. I would love and I would dedicate my life to this country, but I see it as being a mean life and I also see it as somebody with strong views and somebody with the kind of views that are maybe a little bit unpopular, which may be right, but maybe unpopular, wouldn't necessarily have a chance of getting elected against somebody with no great brain but a big smile. Wow.

And that's a sad comment from the political process. Television in a strange way has ruined that process, hasn't it? It's hurt the process very much. I mean, the Abraham Lincolns of the world, Abraham Lincoln would probably not be electable today because of television He was not a handsome man, and he did not smile But Joe Biden's a smiler notice how stoic he used to be I mean now He's a little bit more ramped up obviously, but he was just cool calm collective back there I got you a question though as a fellow veteran as a as an immigrant whose family and they came like you've seen this Cuz I met on the back. I walked in there he looked like he was about to have a heart attack

because he came to this country he's like what the hell are you guys doing what does that do to you like honestly because I know you did came from a meeting you came in here I'm furious yeah well no I trust I trust God I trust that you know what these founding fathers built, they built a great system. I think the Supreme Court, the same way they got involved for Colorado, and it was a done deal, I wonder if the Supreme Court is going to get involved with this and say you guys are out of your minds with what you're doing. There's way too many things with the system that I trust that's been built. Do not confuse with my lack of trust and support for what the DOJ,

the FBI, any of that stuff is done. I don't know why I am extremely confident in the people, enough of them, realizing what the hell is going on. I don't know why to me, I'm coming from a different place, where I'm sitting there, this guy four years ago, you know, when the name Trump would come up, he had bought into for a lot of the Russia collusion stuff, and now he's at a place. And how many people you think are like him? I think a lot of people. I think there's a lot of people in America that are in a position right now, they're

just, they love America, they maybe not even like Trump, but they're sitting there saying I can't believe what's going on with this. Now here's what I will say to you. I think what the left is going to do is the following. Okay, let's go through dates, calendar, okay? You got June 27th is what? Debate. calendar. Okay. You got June 27th is what debate. Yup. During June 27th. How many times you think Biden is going to use the word convicted felon? What do you think the number will be?

My God. How many times do you think? Okay. And how long is the debate an hour? It's a two hour debate. Two hour debate. Over and under a hundred times. I'll tell you 20 once a minute for each minute he's speaking. Once a minute for each minute. So if he speaks for forty-five minutes, moderators ask me questions sometimes. Let's just say forty-five minutes, take the commercial out. So you think he's going to say forty-five times? Correct.

Okay. Adam, how many times do you think he's going to say it? Yeah, right. I mean, he's going to nonstop. All right. So he's going to be promoting that. So watch this. June 27th is the debate

July 11th is the hearing that's four days before the RNC. When is the RNC? Oh sentencing hearing. Yeah, the sentencing here is July 11th the RNC found out mistaken as July 15th Okay, there you go 15 through 18, which he's probably gonna be speaking at the end or whatever the you know Friday or the Wednesday It is okay. So they're trying to create a setting of going into this I actually think the sequencing doesn't favor Dems Because I think the debates gonna piss off even more Where it's gonna create a lot of momentum at the RNC where the fire at the RNC is gonna be Ridiculous of people wanting

to be there because it's right after the debate, it's right after the sentencing then comes. So now on the sentencing side. When's DNC? Let's put the DNC in that calendar. DNC is August. I think DNC is August 13th or something like that. But let me tell you where I'm going with this, Tom. Sentencing is August 19th.

DNC is August 19th through to 12th. Let me tell you what's the one part that's kind of weird. I don't know how dark these guys are going to get. Would they, if the sentencing is what? July 11th. When does RNC start? 15. What's the likelihood that on the 11th, these guys go so crazy that they prevent them from

going to the RNC. What's the likelihood? Because the timing is a little bit weird. You don't think July 11th is intentional. Like you think these guys pick dates accidentally. And for 20 years we put events. We've always chosen our dates intentionally, always. You get married, it's an intentional,

everything is an intentional date that you choose the judge selected it based on the court Docket calendar right the judge Selected it so July 11th is four days before RNC Could they potentially do something for him not to go to the RNC? They know if Trump doesn't go to the RNC RNC is gonna be dead the energy is not gonna be the same without Trump being There I don't know all I'm saying, if I'm sitting on the DNC side, everybody reacts today, everybody goes to sleep today. We're really going to know the impact of this in one to four weeks.

June is a case study to see what this is going to do. Dems are going to look at the polls in a week or two and they're going say, okay guys it's working on our favor look what's going on over here Wisconsin da-da-da-da or they're gonna say oh shit Arizona went from 11 to 14. Oh my god Pennsylvania oh this is not good. Then my fear is exactly what Tucker said. This guy needs to double down on security. They only have one thing after this. I'm telling you the level of whatever, the amount of things they feared with Twitter files. You know the amount of things with Matt Taibbi and Shelenberger. The amount of things they feared with Twitter files.

Bro, we don't have Google files, we don't have YouTube files, we don't have Facebook files, but imagine getting FBI files. Imagine he puts in somebody that gets the CIA files. Imagine he gets the, you know, where you find out, Myorkas, what email exchange he's at. If he puts the border security, Myca's, we get those files? It's over. What is that going to look like? Is that the banana? Are we? That's the, I am so at a point I'm convinced that they're frightened of the American people finding out how nasty and dirty and who's been involved. If there's one thing that's kind of weird,

nasty and dirty and who's been involved if there's one thing that's kind of weird Notice you know I think Obama has been low-key a lot why? He's been low-key a lot. I don't know a lot of pictures. He's been a little bit like he was in England Yeah for the yeah, but he came and left it wasn't like he's quick Yeah, but he's been very low-key You know you got to watch what he's been very low-key. You know, you got to watch what he's going to be doing because, you know, Clintons don't carry weight when it comes to campaigning.

I'm watching a lot of different things, but I'm sitting there. I guarantee they're sitting there saying, let's see what kind of reaction the market's going to have to polls. How soon are we going to get some polls to this? How soon do you think we're going to get some polls to see what's going to happen? We'll have it this weekend, no doubt. Okay, so next week, we're going to see America's reaction to this. It'll take one week.

All the good polls need about 600 registered voters. They're going to wait for the cooling out period over the weekend and they're going to see what people think about it, like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. I look for snap polls to be early but flawed, but a week from now there's probably going to be early but flawed, but a week from now there's probably gonna be more. I want to see somebody run a battleground state poll and bring it out next Friday and take it Tuesday, Thursday. And I'm not speaking my speculation, I'm speaking polling methodology that I've read. And you mentioned, sorry Adam, because I know you want to say something, and I want people

to understand when you say that, you're not just being facetious, you're just throwing it out there. When you're talking about the real, they cannot let this man win, because he's going to do exactly that. So that stopping him, like actually trying to get rid of him, let's not pretend like JFK, nobody in the government or CIA, they're still trying to protect those documents. But I'm telling you guys right now, PBD something happens Adam God forbid our plane crashes or something happens and Donald Trump Does perish that Civil War that movie that we saw and all that shit that they're trying to get us to PBD

That's what's going to happen because that's gonna be the spark that likes this whole bitch ablaze because that's that's the only way they could Stop this guy because the way that we're seeing it. He's winning. This is the time. This is just embarrassing So I worry about the waterfall effect and I agree with what Pat just said If you are a strong candidate the words you use I will defeat him If you are not a strong candidate and you're playing boogeyman politics, you're right It's like you're you're voting not Trump then it's he won't win so I will be defeat him becomes he won't win and Then in a moment of desperation you end up in a really bad place where he can't be allowed to win. Oh

Yeah, that's what I'm saying to you because I'm telling you that's the last card. That is the last card. We're there. Yeah but I don't think we're there. I think there is, hear me out what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, okay we've seen mob movies, right? We've seen them. Of course. Okay Godfather 2, what did it take? What did it take for Pacino to kill his brother? When he betrayed him, when he went to Salazzo. But how long did he know that he was betraying his family? When he went to the casino, he talked to him and he's like, what are you doing talking to my brother?

Why are you letting this guy talk to you the way he does? You're letting him talk to you like this and hit you on your head? You're disrespecting a family. Nobody does that to the Corleone family. Okay. And then he went to Cuba and he realized, oh, Johnny Olaf took me everywhere. And then Pacino knew. He knew Johnny Olaf.

He knew he had completely betrayed the family. Then Pacino comes back. Him and his wife are going through the arguments, the big fights. She wants to leave. He says, you think I'm going to let you take my kids? And remember that one time she comes to the door crying and he closed hugging closes door in her face Yeah, the sister on this side is realizing. Oh shit. He is the boss You best come recognize. Okay. Yeah, she does then he's sitting by himself

Knowing what he has to do last. Yep knowing. Yeah, and then what do they do? has to do last. Knowing. And then what do they do? Hey, you want to go fishing? No, no, we're going to take him away. And he goes fishing and boom, it's game over. Swimming with the fish. So to me, I don't think they're right. I think someone reasonable, excuse me, I think someone reasonable on the left is saying, guys, we can't get to that point. Because think about it this way, think about it this way. Do you think, how many different ways, if you really wanted to take somebody out, how many different ways can you spin it?

How many different ways can you spin it? With somebody like this, of his stature, man? I mean, it's either a massive security breach, which, dude do he has security Watching Secret Service or it has to be a vehicle all I'm selling all I'm saying to you is there's so many ways to spin it To put a health to put this to put that this is there's so many ways to do it. They are Professionals in this but the timing they will go nuts. I totally get it. Okay, so let's just say it happens I'm what are you gonna do? Who's the replacement? How quickly do you move? Who do you put in? What happens then?

Processes let me ask you first go for it. Okay They take out Trump They commit an assassination You go to the convention and there will be a delegate vote because the primaries off The part the primer all the primary is off. All the primary results are off because all those delegates no longer are held by an active candidate. So the floor would vote. There would be a floor vote and there would be a nomination, I believe it's five, up to five nominees. There would be a floor vote at the RNC. That's the way it would work. The delegates would vote. Who do you think... Oh man. Well, you thinking somebody Rob? Yeah, who would step up to be that person? It's open. It becomes an

open primary. DeSantis is in play. Nicky's in play. Vivek's in play. The whole field is in play and then they would like root it down to five, and then they would have a vote, and the states would vote because all the delegates that were won fair and square by Donald Trump during the primary become uncommitted because there is no longer a candidate, excuse me, a nominee. But the question remains, Pat, here's the question though. Let's say, like you said, a health one, his heart, and he has a heart attack, okay? What does the MAGA base do?

They're not going to believe the rhetoric of, oh, he's old in his heart. They are going to lose their minds and go and take the streets, period. That's the timing. If anything happens to Donald Trump right now, to the election, it's over. By the way, somebody sent me a text message right now saying, have you talked to Candace on what she thinks about it? Listen, guys, here's all I'll tell you. This is why we created Manect for some of you guys that are wondering.

Ask these guys who are following the story closely. Manect Candace, ask her, what do you think about this? Ask specific questions. Ask Cuomo. Rob, can you stop it from doing that? Ask Dave Smith. Ask Tulsi Gabbard. Manect them. Those are the QR codes it from doing that? Ask Dave Smith. Ask Tulsi Gabbard. Manect them.

Those are the QR codes. Directly they will respond to you. Most of these guys respond within 24 hours. You get to pay and they'll respond to you within 24 hours on Manect. Most of them will. But go ahead, Adam. You were going to say something. Adam Lerner Well, I'll tell you why this makes me sad.

Some people are angry. You know, Trump loyalists are super upset. Some people that hate Trump are cheering for joy. I'm sad because I know where this is headed. Pat, you always say like, how dark and ugly could this get? How dark and ugly could this get? You know, you talk about like on one shoulder, you know, you're an optimist, the future looks bright.

But on the other shoulder, hey, look, only the paranoid survive. Tell you what I'm scared of. Because I love America of because I love America We all of America thousand percent and I truly truly believe that there that we have more in common Than what divides us? Unfortunately, the way politics is these days we are divided You're there on team red or team blue and no matter what your team does. You're supporting your team I get it, you know, I'm a little bit more purple at this point, but I'll tell you why this is sad to me because what's going

to happen, you talked about mafia movies and we did a whole segment today about one of the greatest mafia actors of all time, Robert De Niro. And we saw just a little glimpse of how freaking emotional and livid people got. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. That's going to be times a million for weeks and for months this entire summer. And we're going to have Americans who would otherwise get along, just be at each other's neck and each other's throat. And this is

the saddest part probably. Democrats have had nothing to get fired up about. Nothing. Republicans have had a lot of, especially Mac, have had a lot of things to get upset about and get fired up about. Trump, it's a sham, it's a rig, they're fired up. Democrats are sitting around like, I don't know. I guess we're voting for Joe, I guess. We all know that the vast majority of people that voted for Biden in 2020 didn't vote for Biden. They did what? Voted against Trump. So now they're going to have something that does what? Fires them up. I told you he was a criminal. I told you you couldn't be trusted. Now they're going to go negative because that's what they got. And it's going to be negative

victim mentality versus people are freaking pissed and fellow Americans are going to be each other's throat. And for me, that is the saddest thing to hear. This was the first shot, though. This is the first that you're talking about, Adam. And this year, this is the first shot though. This is the first that you're talking about Adam in this year This is the first shot and wait till you see wait You see the the aftermath of the people that came into this border that they're giving cell phones all these chinese Nationals all these middle eastern guys remember the middle eastern guy that's like soon You're gonna know my name wait till you see the shit show that's happening and it's gonna keep getting worse This was the this is the spark that lit the fire. Just remember this day I was really angry about um an hour and a half ago.

I mean really angry. And I got through it literally in less than 30 minutes because I have tremendous faith in the spirit of this country. I have tremendous faith in the sensibility of the citizens. And I have tremendous faith in the sensibility of the citizens, and I have tremendous faith in humanity itself. What we are seeing here, it's clearly manipulation, and I don't need to say it, I don't need to list it. I mean, any sensible person can see it. I worry about things that can happen, but I'm glad that I'm still in

The greatest country on earth with the greatest system on earth that still has the Supreme Court and everything that goes with it Mm-hmm. I am anxious to see the polls I am anxious to see who wants to rise up and be counted as an American patriot I am anxious to see if the only thing one side has is is the bloodlust anger of they think they have a kill. And I am really anxious to see how the American voter is going to execute and move forward. Let me tell you where my confidence comes from. Oh my god, watch this. So I'm pretty calm. Right now, this is the biggest live worldwide on YouTube.

If you're watching this, we're number one worldwide on YouTube. Hey guys. 65,000 concurrent people are right now watching this. Wow, what's up guys? But hear me out, hear me out. I'm not bragging with this. Why are you watching us?

Serious question for you, what are you doing watching us? I'm actually asking you a question. Why are you watching? You don't all agree with everything we talk about. Why are you watching us? Why are you not tuning into CNN or Fox? I want to look at all their numbers. Why are you not tuning into the establishment mains? Why are you not doing that? Why are you not going up? Why are you tuning into something like this? What do you hear? I don't have a degree from Columbia. This guy didn't go get a degree in journalism from freaking Florida State University. Vinny didn't go do it.

I'd say, Tom, why are you watching us? You know what is happening? There are a lot of people that independently want to talk to people they trust that they relate to. Regular we the people, regular people are sitting around saying, what the hell is going on? Who do I talk to? I want to talk to people that are just like me.

My confidence comes that the people that would have typically controlled these types of things, they're losing credibility. They're losing credibility. People are not going saying, what do they have to say? We already know what the mainstream media is going to be saying. I want to know what regular people are saying. My hope comes from, my confidence comes from there. Look, you, you, I've said this many, many times.

I'm a very nice guy. You've been around me. Yes. I'm a very nice guy. I get along with everybody. White, black, his, right now I just had a conversation. The guy from Patriot Front who, you know, oh, they're, you oh, we're not with the Feds. Every one of their guys is masculine.

What the hell is going on with these guys, right? He's sitting here. Two hours later, an hour, second half of it, I ask him one question and he gets triggered. You have to watch it to see what the reaction is. But I want to talk to him. Why? I get along with everybody. I want to see what your position is.

By the time it's done, I know exactly what his position is. You'll find out tomorrow. We'll talk to anybody and everybody. But America's turning, guys. This may be the last time that they will have the kind of control with mainstream media. They're about to lose it. This is the last time they have this kind of power. They're going to lose it.

This is a very, very important election. and I'm totally fine with people being pissed off I'm totally fine with people energizing. I'm totally fine with people being sick of it. Whatever you don't hate you learn to tolerate I'm glad more people are starting to hate the fact that this is a situation We're in that a guy is being getting what 34 counts of felony for hush money And there's other people that are actually are you kidding me like this is what's taking place yeah i think common sense is going to prevail and the right people are finding each other slow more places do i go to a regular day to day people come and say hey man you know i watch you hey man i

don't agree but i watch hey man i agree to I agree with you. Hey man, I love you. Hey man. More and more people are starting to realize, where can I go to trust regular people like me? And that shift is already happening. It's already happening. And that's where, again, by the way, for those of you watching, we believe the future looks bright. We fully believe the future looks bright. Fully.

So much to the point where our entire brand is around future looks bright. That's everything we believe in. The future looks bright fully so much to the point where our entire brand is run future looks bright That's everything we believe in future looks bright some of you guys that are value tenors You know what that logo the hat is these are some of the hats that people wear it says future I wear future looks bright hat everywhere we go people get confused There are you really the other day? I'm at the soccer game for Dylan and he's playing a game. I'm like, hey, I like your Future Looks Bright shirt. He's like, oh shit, it's you! Future Looks Bright!

I want more people to sport Future Looks Bright to say, I am optimistic about what's going to be happening. These hats right now, you buy one, you get the second one for free. This whole concept around this, whether you're military, you like white hats, red hats, we are optimistic about the future. That scares the shit out of the opponent. Anytime you have hope, the first thing they wanted to take away in Germany was hope, they tried to do it. A guy named Dietrich Bonhoeffer, who believed in God, who was a Christian, who used the

most simplest thing that Hitler feared. Hitler feared people having hope. The moment people had hope, they couldn't win. Period. I have hope. You have hope. We having hope. The moment people had hope they couldn't win. Period. I have hope. You have hope. We have hope. Future looks bright. Let them do their thing. We're finding each other everybody. We are all finding each other and that scares the shit out of the enemy and the establishment. Very simple. So that's why I'm very confident about the future. It's very simple for me. Nothing more, nothing less. Unless if you guys have anything else to add, I got nothing else to show. We can wrap up the live and we can go home.

Where does this go from here? Meaning this was the first major announcement, but there's going to be, from a timing perspective, when are they going to announce some sort of sentencing rob? I believe you had those kinds of numbers, didn't you not? It was, well, July. July 11th at 10 a.m. is when he will be back in court for the sentencing. So, and now he's not, the gag is done, correct? The gag order? It's done. He's finished.

The trial is over. So it's over. So he can talk as much smack as he wants now. He is free on bail. Good. Folks, stay tuned. We will do this again next week. Tomorrow we got the podcast with Dave Smith and Chris Cuomo. Looking forward to that. But we'll go back to home team again next

week. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.