PBD Podcast - DSA Wins in Florida, Trump Approval Falls to 33%, & NY ISIS Attack Thwarted | PBD #847
Episode Date: August 21, 2026Patrick Bet-David and the Home Team break down the FBI escalating its investigation into Eric Swalwell as newly released documents revive questions about his relationship with suspected Chinese spy Ch...ristine Fang. Plus, a former Fauci adviser pleads guilty to concealing COVID research records, and Trump's approval sinks to 33% as the Iran war, $4 gas, and the midterms collide.🎟️ SECURE YOUR 2026 VAULT TICKETS: https://bit.ly/4xU2SCW👞 GET THE FLB1's: https://bit.ly/4mC4uf6🦁 SPONSOR THE VAULT 2026: https://bit.ly/4mFBPpwⓂ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4kSVksoⓂ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj🇰 KALSHI: http://kalshi.com/pbdSUBSCRIBE TO:@VALUETAINMENT@ValuetainmentComedyABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller "Your Next Five Moves" (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
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Did you ever think you would make it?
I feel I'm so close like it takes sweet bit of three.
I know this life meant for me.
Adam, what's your point?
The future looks bright.
My handshake is better than anything I ever signs.
Right here.
You are one of one?
My son's right there.
I don't think I've ever said this before.
Very rarely, this Vinny reveal things about him that nobody else knows.
He just said something.
Are you okay if I tell everybody?
Well, that's fine. That's fine.
Vinny was kicked out of an online university.
DeVry.
That's how you get kicked because of harassment.
What was it?
I don't even have a little bit too long story.
They're still litigating.
How do you get kicked out of an online university?
Control all the league.
I understand it physically or somewhere, but I too.
I try to control all the lead.
It just wasn't.
By the way, just in about three seconds, Tom's going to tell us a joke.
Here's the grace of impact.
I want everybody to be ready for it.
Hang on.
So Tom's wearing a sticker saying I voted.
Just so everybody knows, Tom voted.
I voted.
But it's too late because it was two days ago, three days ago.
That's okay.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm from California and I haven't stopped voting.
Got it.
Okay, that's a good point.
That was not a bad joke.
We got, we got, that's a, that's a four, that's a four or five.
I think it's okay.
For Tom?
Yes.
That was a nine.
Look, we got, it just ended a week.
Lots to discuss.
Thank you, Adam.
You know, we have John Doyle here with us from DeBlitz.
Great to have you here with us.
Yeah, thank you for having me.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
Our team, they're like, Pat, we got to get John on.
He does a very good job.
So you got a lot of fans here in a house.
you missed it. Adam was kind of trying to punk a little bit because Adam feels like the old man.
He misses being 26, 27 years old. The good old days, 30 years ago when Adam was in his 20s.
I just turned 40 again. Let's go. Yeah, yeah. So let's go through some of the stories that we got.
All right, let's go through some of the stories. One story here we have to talk about.
$25 minimum wage could eliminate five million U.S. jobs. Economist warns.
And there are certain states that would get hit by it more than,
others, this army unit, think about what a creative way to get people to reenlist for an additional
two to six years. Hey, if between August and November, you reenlist will give you a four-day weekend
to play as much Grand Theft Auto Six as you want. Sign me up right now. It's a Daza. We'll give
you four days for six years of your life. And already 130 people re-enlist. Can you imagine it's like
I'll re-enlist just to play. So they're doing creative stuff over there. A Democratic Socialist,
one in the great state of Florida. People are shell shock. How did this girl,
Angie Dixon, score socialist breakthrough in Trump's Florida? That's a great title by Axios.
Bernie Sanders came on on one of the Zooms to kind of endorse and sell her up, you know,
and then all of a sudden he wasn't on it, so we'll talk about that. Eric Swalwell was just having a
really great time the last couple months. All the stories about him are very complimentary and
no crime, no, you know, doing anything with the Christine Fang, Chinese spy, bomb, you know,
But there's additional stories that are coming up that could get very, very nasty.
We'll talk about that.
Trump's approval rating plummets to new low ahead of critical midterms, more work to do.
That's a Fox News headline that I just read to you.
So we'll address that.
And then there's something that happened with Trump sounding alarm on crazy Iran saying regime would use nuclear weapon.
Without hesitation, a lot of people are saying, look, why are we going back to this?
Do we want to continue going this direction?
And Tom's got some thoughts on that.
And then a few other stories.
Harvard story's a little weird.
Harvard agrees to pay $53 million after morgue managers sold body parts.
Like you read that, you're like, is that a real story?
That can be a real story.
It's an absolutely real story.
But it's a real story.
Okay.
You can't make this up.
Sean Duffy warns daughters, Harvard corrupts girls like her.
We'll get into that.
Sophie Cunningham hints at WMBA Commission shakeup as she goes after Kathy Engelbert,
very weird on the way she did it.
Tupac's murder trial has taken place.
And there used to be a rumor back in the days that, you know,
they took his ashes and they rolled it up and they smoked it.
And I was like, yeah, but that's a rumor.
That's just good for hip-hop rumor.
Apparently, it really did happen.
Apparently.
So we'll talk about that and a couple different things with Kee-Feedee-D telling detectives,
his nephew shot Tupac in 1996.
We'll address that Tom's heavily following the Tupac case.
And then aside from that, I think we got a couple other stories that will try to get this one lady.
You know, we had a researcher that told us something.
And I don't even know if that's appropriate to say, but he said this.
And he said, there's only one person that looks better in a burqa than this person being one of them.
Because a white woman becomes a Muslim and she joins ISIS apparently.
Yep.
And then she goes and gets arrested, allegedly plotting New York State Capitol attack.
And this is an ABC news story.
And this is a true story, Vinnie.
And wait till you see what she wore and where she was going to buy her bomb making material.
She's so hot.
I'm not going to lie, she's hot.
All right.
And then.
How do you tell which one's life?
Karen Bass and Nithia Raman had a moment of an exchange going back and forth.
And Karen Bass says, are you sending your resignation?
Is that what you're doing?
And she has the second lowest show rate of showing up.
And all these other women also have kids.
You have to see this exchange.
It's a great exchange.
And then I found a clip from PEP, coach, who is one of the greatest coaches of all time.
Someone will say he's the greatest coach of all time.
He talks about passion in a way to his players where they catch the camera from the bottom of one of his players.
You've got to see this clip.
It's such a beautiful clip.
It's emotional, but it's such a beautiful clip to show of what it takes to win at the highest level.
We will show that as well.
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through September 3rd. With that being said, let's get right into it. Okay, first story,
$25 minimum wage could eliminate five million U.S. jobs and economist warrants. Now,
some may say, how? How could we eliminate five million jobs if we go from $7.25 to $25?
Don't you help people out? Isn't that a good thing that people make more money?
Isn't that good? Corporate profits, all these guys are making all this money.
What's wrong with taking people from $7.25 to $25? And here's what the
story says. A federal $25 minimum wage mandate would destroy millions of jobs and hit
booming Sunbelt state's hardest, warned Rebecca Paxton researcher director at the
conservative employment policies institute, which projects over 5 million jobs lost nationwide.
Progressive lawmakers won $25 floor by 2031 for large employers and elimination of the
tip credits. Some of the top states that are going to be impacted by the $25 minimum wage
include Texas, Pennsylvania, Florida, Ohio, Tennessee. These states have a
massive workforce. They are currently abiding by the $7.25 minimum wage rate. So a $25 minimum
wage represents more than tripling the current minimum wage, more than a third of projected losses
fall on a restaurant hospitality, include a $1.2 million, tipped workers, one fair wage,
part of the coalition, pushing the floor, disagreed. We're seeing so many MAGA voters excited
about a $25 minimum wage, said President Saru Jayaman. The group said,
one job should be enough to live on called the EPA projection inconsistent with decades of minimum
wage research cited UC Berkeley economist Michael Reich finding phased increase raises incomes with a
literal effect on employment. The federal minimum wage sat at 725 since 2009. So Tom, the argument
would be since 2009, that's 17 years till today at 725. Isn't it time we raise the minimum wage?
The argument on the other side, the libertarian side is let the market decide what does Tom say?
Here's what I say.
I have two points on this.
The first is you have to be careful about the liberals that are there and the socialists,
because in there you find a code.
And what the code is, is that every job should be a living wage.
I mean, that's what Wang said.
When he came out and he ran for president, we actually had him on the podcast, Andrew, right?
Yang, Yang, not a wink.
Yank with Hawaii.
Yep.
Yang.
It's not the same thing.
It's not the YANG.
No, no, it's not.
Yang, sorry.
Insert bad joke here.
I'm glad you held back.
Yeah, I did. So they're out there talking about living wage, right? That everything needs to be a living wage. Bernie talks about it.
Andrew Wang's brother, Andrew Yang, he talked about it. They've all talked about it. And they're in code.
So whenever they bring up minimum wage, they see that as a door to run in and to push that angle. However, the fact that it hasn't risen since a certain amount of time, you know, soon as you open the door, the reason it hasn't risen is because the capitalist,
and a lot of the people in government, you know, say, listen, once you turn that and they give the government a knob to turn, what do they do? They turn it.
And so, okay, we raise the minimum wage here, and they say they're going to sweep in, and the socialist side of the Democratic Party is just going to turn that knob and take it all the way to 25 or 30 because they believe every job is to be a minimum wage job.
Well, you know, that's my point. My point is you can't go down that path.
And as soon as you say, isn't it time to change it versus letting the market decide?
You've now walked right through the door to have a negotiated discussion on the floor of Congress about it.
And guess where you're going to end up?
You're going to end up with all the crazies on the left pushing for the living wage as soon as you open the door and say I'm willing to talk about it.
So, John, you're in your 20s.
So a lot of your friends, I'm sure when they're talking about affordability, getting married, having kids, buying a house.
Maybe this is a good idea.
Where do you stand as a 20-something you roll, 26, 20, 20?
27-year-old, should they raise the minimum wage to $25 an hour?
No, absolutely not.
You know, I even remember this conversation during Bernie's first campaign for president
when I was 16 or 17.
I was taking econ in high school.
And I remember thinking, okay, here we go.
I'm going to learn all about why minimum wage rising is actually a good thing.
And they taught it straight.
They were like, look, we may be teaching you Keynesian economics,
but like we still believe that, you know, when you raise the price of labor,
you're going to see, obviously, a decrease in the jobs available
because that's just like how it works.
And so seeing so many young people still embrace this,
even though we are taught this.
It's all the other like liberal stuff you learn in public school tells me that obviously
whatever's going on with affordability is striking people so much that they're anxious enough
to like ignore even what they know to be true about how like minimum wage laws affect the supply
of available jobs.
And I think that the Trump administration has done a decent job trying to, you know,
address these affordability issues with people like J.D. Vance articulating things like,
you know, homeownership, wanting to bring back jobs domestically.
But insofar as there is that issue with affordability, if Democrats and socialists can
exploit that for political gain. They're obviously going to do it every time. And they seem like
they're doing it and making a lot of progress. I mean, you saw a socialist yesterday, one in the primary
or two days ago in Florida. Adam, your thoughts? The minimum wage $25. If you just want to understand
how minimum wage works and how math works, take the minimum wage, $25 an hour, times it by two. That
means you're making $50,000 a year. Okay? So if you want to start everybody out at $50,000,
we're going to have a major problem. I know you've told the story you worked at Hagen Dollars for
four bucks an hour. I work for 10 bucks an hour at one point. At some point, we're going to have to
realize if you start everyone at 50, that means that everyone is going to be making 80, 100. So you might
be saying, that's great. We're all making more money. That means everything's going to cost more.
So right now, this is federal minimum wage, just to be clear, right? Right now, it's state minimum
wage. I think the highest states are obviously the big blue states, California, New York, Hawaii,
it's $17 an hour. But then you have states.
Like, I think Florida is maybe 12.
You have certain states, lower economic states, Mississippi, Alabama, where it's closer to the federal minimum, which is $7 an hour.
If you make a federal minimum wage of $25 an hour, that means every single state is going to be basically firing employees left and right because they can't keep up.
So here's the biggest challenge I have.
And at a time we're basically seeing that AI is going to take over and put unemployment, which is at 4%, which is pretty damn good right now, historically pretty damn low.
All of a sudden, AI is going to put people out of the workforce.
Now businesses can't pay their employees a reasonable wage.
They're going to fire everybody, and there's a major, major challenge with even talking about something like this.
Yeah, so you hear different angles with this.
Some want to blanket $25 minimum wage across the board for everybody.
Some are saying $25 minimum wage if you work for a big company, so not a smaller company.
So then they're going to identify because if you do it blanket across the board for all the big companies, every small company,
the big companies are going to sit there and say,
absolutely, raise the minimum wage to $25.
Why do you say that?
Because, so let's just say I'm doing $2 billion a year,
and I have 80 competitors around me
that are smaller than me.
I'm the behemoth, $2 billion.
They're all under $100 million.
Or let's just say they're, yeah,
let's just say they're under $100 million,
between $10 million to $100 million in top line revenue.
They collectively do $4 billion a year.
But I'm the behemoth guy that's $2 billion a year, okay?
They all of a sudden, when I go by products, I can buy 50,000 pieces of this product and he'll sell it to me at $2.
He can only buy 5,000 of those products at $6.
I'm getting a better discount because I'm buying volume.
No problem.
So he has a bigger profit margin to be able to afford to pay higher salary.
All of a sudden, he goes to $25 an hour.
All the other guys that are at a lower money, minimum wage, they go out of business.
I don't know what just happened.
if you know what happens, these businesses 10 to 100 million that go out of business,
that revenue rolls up to who?
The $2 billion company, all of a sudden becomes $3.1 billion,
they're like, what a freaking great idea.
Absolutely raise a minimum wage of $25.
We love it.
They want that, right?
The bigger companies would love seeing some like this happen,
but they don't realize they're going to hurt the small business owner.
Do I think they need to raise it or not?
That's a different conversation to have.
By the way, when a lot of people say $7.25,
only about 82,000 people got paid 725 an hour last year.
That's it.
Only 82,000 people.
And guess what the average age of those 82,000 people were?
Probably teenage.
Yeah, and FYI.
If you're making 725 and you're 30 years old, you're the problem.
Correct.
Not the person paying you that.
If the value you only bring to the world, by the age of 30 is $7.25, what the hell did you do with 30 years of your life?
Now, don't get me wrong.
I'm not talking about disability.
I'm not talking about all.
That's not what I'm, when I go to Walmart and I see them having hired certain people that have disabilities,
I salute the company every time because that's respect, that they're willing to do that.
I'm not talking about the exception.
I'm talking about the other 95% that by 30 are making 725.
You're part of the problem.
Go pick up a book.
Go take a class.
Go learn something.
There's so many things available for us to find to improve our market value today.
And I think a lot of the onus goes on them.
I got a message yesterday.
Look at this DM.
Guy sends me a DM.
Every time I get these DMs cracks me up.
Guy says, hey, can you send me $1,000?
Euro.
I said, if you send me $5,000 first, he says, very businessman of you,
you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
I said, stop begging and create value instead.
Building a fake body account to beg people for money is not only under-attractive,
but semi-criminal.
Be useful.
He says, was having a joke.
Geez, I said, life is not a joke.
Stop wasting your life.
I mean, this is like a real thing that we got going on.
Make yourself useful.
Some people say, why do you?
have a 20-something year old on the podcast.
The number one guy that has the biggest YouTube channels in his 20s.
What's his name?
Mr. Bees. Nobody cares about age nowadays.
They care about value.
Nobody does.
Yesterday I was doing the, what do you call it when you go to school to meet the kids'
teachers?
What do they call that?
Parent teacher.
Parent teacher is a parent.
And it's also open house night to kick off the new year.
Okay.
So I went to school yesterday.
And by the way, I had no idea.
We didn't do this in our high school.
Our oldest has eight classes.
And it's 90 minutes of class.
We didn't do 90 minutes of class.
It was 50 minutes of class in LA.
Did you experience 90 minutes of class?
It was 72.
Yeah, so what is this 90 minute thing?
I'm not used to.
Anyway, so they do a class every other day.
So you have four classes every day, but it's 90 minutes.
Then another four classes, the next day's 90 minutes.
And they kind of rotate and they call it an orange day, whatever.
They give a different colors.
A schedule, B schedule, yeah.
So I went to met the teachers yesterday.
And one teacher who was the history teacher, he's like, listen, the book I have here,
your kids are going to be bored out of their minds.
They're not going to like this book.
Me and Jen, look at each other.
We're like, does you have any idea that Tico reads that book for Hobby,
and he's in love with the book that they're giving him?
He's going to love this history class.
I came out at the end.
I'm like, I freaking love these teachers.
The idea of learning.
One lady was from Siberia said, I learned English in Siberia.
I came to the States.
I've been a professor for 22 years.
She's got a YouTube channel with 2200 subscribers.
You've got to get obsessed with learning.
You've got to get excited about this phase of what you need to do.
Last clip I'll show you before we get to the next article is the following.
Can you play that clip of Coach Pepp Gwardelia?
You know which one it is that I said.
I want you to watch this here.
And by the way, this applies to all of us.
This is not just, you know, sports.
Who's this coach?
Pep Guardilia is known, Guardiola, is known as some people would call him the greatest coach of all time.
This guy's coached Messi.
He's coached the great one.
Dude, this guy.
Let me tell you, legend.
We were trying to get him at the vault this year, if not last year.
We invited him both times and both times he had a game.
or else we would have had him out the vault.
The mindset this guy has it and what he's done, he's loved, admired, and respected.
Look what he says yesterday.
Go for it.
I'm fucking divorced for the most beautiful woman in your planet is my wife, my ex-wife.
I love men, unbelievably.
But we lost a passion.
For many reasons, we lost a passion.
I love her, yeah, absolutely.
She loved me, yeah.
But we love the passion.
How do you play football?
Because you're playing?
Or was something inside.
What is a passion?
in your life, whatever you're going to do.
Do it with passion.
I don't want to play.
I'm afraid of fashion.
Did you not get to this podcast right now?
This is why people love, love playing for this guy.
Love and the passion thing applies in your business, in your marriage, in parenting, in your health,
and your studying, and being a student in faith and every aspect of your life.
So the minimum wage argument is, look, we want you to make $100 an hour.
We want to help you make $1,000 an hour.
We want you to get past $1,000.
$25 in our concept.
But unfortunately, they're having these types of conversations, the $25 minimum wage.
You need to go out there and learn and earn it.
You need to do your part to get to a point like that.
Tom, I'll give you the final thoughts, and I'm going to the next point.
We're talking about $25 minimum wage.
It was a $15 minimum wage that we're talking about 2019, and that's what Bloomberg talked
about.
Forbes magazine wrote about it at that time, and HR executive wrote about it at that time.
The pace of adoption of kiosks in fast food accelerated three,
starting in 2019. You want to know why? Because the fast food industry said, and I'm reading the
quote, we need to make the minimum wage impact on us irrelevant. Otherwise, we will die and will not be
able to even to operate our franchises. So they went to kiosk and went to automated kitchens,
AI powered drive-thrus, which were recently discussed. All of that was on the docket in 2019,
and they have been chasing it. And it's been eliminating jobs for teenagers because they've had it.
So when you're talking about the big company, the big company has got the money like McDonald's, all the franchises, to go invest in these systems.
And guess what?
It eliminates jobs.
Yeah.
And again, we'll see what's going to happen with this.
I don't think this conversation is going to go away.
You said when he was 16 years old, a story came out.
You guys remember Bernie Sanders?
We should raise a minimum wage to $15.
And then he realized he was paying his interns $13 an hour.
And that story came out.
And it ended very, very quickly.
Let's go to the next story.
So now, John said something.
He said the socialist are exploiting what's going on with affordability.
Okay.
And I'm going to come to you first on this next story.
In Florida on Tuesday, okay, Angie Dixon, Democratic Socialists, won Tuesday primary in Florida.
The question now, AP says, is can she win in November, okay?
Democratic socialist Angie Dixon won a primary in Florida.
Let me go to the other.
Voters nominated, state representative Angie Dixon, a Democratic socialist,
over Alex Vindman, the moderate former national security office central to Trump's first impeachment
and a shock upset she faces a long-shot challenge to Republican Senator Ashley Moody,
appointed by Governor Ron DeSantis after Mark Rubio became Secretary of State.
Vindman raised about $16 million and spent $9 million.
Nixon raised just shy of $1 million.
So the establishment Democrat raises $16 million.
dollars. Nixon, the socialist, raises a million dollars, 16 to one, and she beats the favorite of 16 to one.
Skip broadcast ads and targeted voters on social media, backed by influence like children's education,
Ms. Rachel, and Representative Rashida Talib and Ilhan Omar, Representative Nixon ran a strong campaign.
I would be standing by her side in the fight against Ashley Moody.
Vindman said after conceding, Trump gloated on truth social.
The most gratifying loss last night was that a real treasonous creep, Alexander Vindman,
a radical left lunatic, adding Vindman should be prosecuted.
The defeat fits a pattern impeachment era like figures.
Al Green, Dan Goldman, and Sri Thander, all lost primaries to the progressive this year.
Still Nixon was weakest in South Florida's large Latino community where left flank congressional
candidates lost to moderate Tuesday.
So, John, why do you think these Democratic socialists running up against the establishment
Democrats are winning?
I think that progressive voters, they don't have confidence in the ability of like the
establishment Democrat Party to stop Republicans. I mean, they tried literally everything they could to
stop Trump and MAGA. He still somehow manages to win the election again in 2024. And so now their
anxieties are giving them a kind of permission to install, I think, further left, more radical socialist
type candidates, because if the typical, you know, Joe Biden type Democrats, even though he's become
extremely radical, can't, you know, deliver the utopia the way that they were promising to, then they're
going to outsource that to people who maybe are a bit more radical on their rhetoric. These people,
they become very dangerous when they feel like their back is.
against the wall. They typically politically become much more radical. On the street level, they
become much more radical. And it's the job of the conservative to bring about some kind of order
in society and give Americans a standard of living that makes them feel like, okay, this is
working. We don't have to entertain these other solutions, which are insane. Is this something to worry
about? Like, what school did you go to? What college you go to? University of Michigan.
How many liberals were there? Is it a 70-30 liberal? Is that a fair breakdown?
Ann Arbor, Michigan is famously one of the most liberal cities in the country.
Okay, so that was how long ago did you graduate? Four years ago, five years ago?
I'm actually there right now.
Oh, you're there right now.
Okay, when you're on campus, you're talking to, you're in a classroom, you're seeing them make the argument on the other side.
What are you hearing?
It's not fair.
Is it a victimhood language?
Is it the corporations are making too much money?
Is it billionaires?
Is it billionaires?
What is the criticism?
To be honest with you, it's not as radical as I thought.
I think that by the time kids arrive at college, they already have this stuff programmed into them.
I was shocked, actually, whether it's an econ class or I'm in the class, a mandatory class called race and ethnic relations you have to take.
It's everything you would expect.
The level of disinterest from the average student shocked me.
I thought everybody would be there handing out Miles' little red book or something,
but nobody really cared.
And so what that tells me is that...
Seriously.
And this is at Michigan.
This is a real school.
Which, by the way, you just had arrest there from students who were there who were radical
because they were threatening, or actually they were planning acts of terrorism
against Zionist professors because they viewed them to be like insufficiently
committed to the pro-Palestine cause or something.
So this is like a school that is actively breeding radicals,
but for some reason the median student isn't quite picking up on it,
which tells me it's not so much.
college. It's like by the time you're there,
your brain is already molded.
By the time you walk out of like a public high school
in America, you already believe this stuff.
Like, it's pretty much over for you, I think.
And I want to get into that here in a minute. Tom, your thoughts on this.
So give us a breakdown. You follow these polls
very closely. Go through the whole thing.
Byron Donald's, Angie Dixon. What should people be looking for?
So Byron Donald's is basically
you're going to be a done deal for governor.
Unless something comes out on Donald's,
take a look at what happened in Kalshi.
the way, this Calci prediction market, this is not a poll. This is the odds of success. Remember,
that's how prediction worked. Yep. So there's not a poll out there that's 937 on all the voters.
What Calci has pulled here, take a look at what happened when she won. The odds for the Dems actually went down.
In other words, the odds of success went down because of Nixon, the DSA candidate versus the other.
Rubio consistently won 53, 54, 57.
You know what those are?
That's what Rubio got on his Senate.
So the Rubio's Senate train has been very consistent.
He's been very handily winning his elections.
Moody was his, he approved the choice, he liked the choice, and the governor DeSantis appointed her to the short term because Rubio became Secretary of State.
So what you have right now, it looks like Moody, unless something very odd happens, is going to handle.
carry this at about 5545,
unless something weird happens.
Because if you take a look at Florida,
there's the law and order Florida,
and then there's the retired Florida.
And the funny thing is,
there are the Democrats that voted for Trump in 2020,
excuse me, yes,
2020 Democrats that we looked in Florida,
those are going to be with Ashley Moody
because they want nothing to do.
with Nixon's policies.
They're what you call?
Remember, what did Clinton call them?
The Blue Dog Democrats that used to walk?
Oh, the Blue Dog.
Remember that?
The Democrats used to walk the other side.
So that's what's going on with her.
She appears more radical,
and the core Dems do not like it.
Moody should carry this.
And Donald's, it's almost like he's running uncontested
because he is also up against a candidate
that is just, when the broader debates happen,
and then the things come out, it's not going to play well.
I want to know what position his opponent is actually going to take.
Whose opponent?
Donald's opponent.
Oh, got you.
Donald's opponent as in the Democratic opponent.
You know, I have to really say this, and I'm going to continue saying this.
Donald's is probably going to end up being a governor here.
But the more guys like Donald's avoid debates with guys like fishback, you know what you do?
The only reason he didn't want to do the debate isn't because of Collins or because of Renner.
He didn't want to face fishback.
When you don't face guys like that, you know what I would do if I'm a Nick Fuentes?
You know what I would do?
And all the other guys, guess what I would do?
You know what an easy layup you're giving me to say one thing?
What's that one thing?
He's afraid.
They're scared.
They're scared.
And what does that do?
You give the base of the younger guys to say, I knew the established and Republicans are scared.
Versus just debate the flipping topics and sit down.
You are indirectly becoming the establishment of, I don't need to do it.
I'm above you.
That's exactly what the young people that are becoming groopers are going to a different
direction are turned off by.
Yeah, I'm too above this.
We can't be doing that.
We need to have the discussion.
You know, when a lot of people say, why do you have such and such person on?
Why do you have such and such person?
Why do you sit down with this person?
A week before I had Candace and Andrew Wilson on, I sat down with Ben Shapiro.
And by the way, you know what the podcast went right after Ben Shapiro and Candice
and Andrew Wilson?
it was who? Joel Webbon. You know all that, the level of controversy and what it goes on? So I think
the conservative party, those that are the traditional Republicans need to look at it as let me talk
to these guys to get in front of the young men to give a better argument instead of dodging
those conversations. Let me get in front of them, have the conversation and say, hey, here's what
I think you ought to consider doing something. Here's what a different approach to take. Because
they're not going away. And FYI, they're just going to get bigger.
This idea of they're going to be gone and non-existent in a year or two,
you're delusional, you're delusional, you're buying your own hype.
Yesterday we're at dinner. Yesterday or two nights ago, we're at dinner.
And I said something to Vinnie, I said, Vinny, you know what's the one thing about life that
nobody realizes? He says what? I said, no one is untouchable.
Even the movie of untouchable. That was about who? Al Capone.
Capone was touchable.
Touched. Name me somebody that's not untouchable. Go ahead.
Muhammad Ali, touchable.
Who's untouchable?
Jesus Christ taught, murdered, killed.
So the idea of we are, you know, we are ahead and we got this and we got that.
That is a very, very problematic strategy to take.
That's a temporary strategy because you're avoiding the conflict.
When you avoid the conflict, there's a sect of younger men.
Sometimes you know what guys want?
You know when sometimes we had one of our employees yesterday we had an issue with?
I sat down with her afterwards and I said, hey, what's bothering you?
And she just opened up.
And I said, so we just went back and forth.
One of my favorite employees.
And it wasn't an issue with me.
It was an issue.
By the way, the issue was so flipping small.
It was ridiculous.
And then I said, is that it?
Yeah.
I said, let me ask you.
Is it on me or is it on you to bring that up?
I guess it's on me to bring it up.
I can't read your mind to bring it up.
And then I said, oh, we good, good.
We got a message here.
We figured it out.
Half the time, you know what people want?
My oldest son, you know what he wants to do every now when I get home?
Guess what he wants to do every night to get home?
He just wants to give him 20 minutes of just letting him filter out
everything's on his mind.
Every night I have to hear about Jiu-Jitsu Kaizan.
I have to hear about, you know, what happened in a scary movie,
horror movie, and let me tell you, in Western society,
and AP Human Geography, I didn't even know what human geography AP was.
I'm sitting in the class, I'm like, hey, babe,
I'm going to act like I know what I'm talking about.
What the hell is human geography, let alone AP?
Because when you say AP to me, I'm thinking,
And why is this kid taking human geography of AP Armenian power?
Why are they doing Armenian power human geography, teaching Armenian gangster?
I don't think Inchbestos.
That's not a good idea.
No, that was your major, right?
What's your major?
I'll pause.
I'll come to you.
So you've been in Florida your entire life.
Minus this moment you lived in Addison Beach.
But watching what's going on right now with a socialist like Dixon come up.
Does it do anything to you?
You're like, this is just noise.
Nothing's going to happen.
Total noise.
And I'll tell you why.
what's happening is you talked about establishment
and that's something you're talking about
and then you have these sort of anti-establishment candidates.
You have to understand there's levels to this thing,
there's a difference of this thing.
And I'll touch on Byron in a second.
The DSA has taken over the Democratic Party.
I want to be super clear on that.
They've taken over, they've done the Trojan horse thing,
and on the MAGA side of things,
you've had the Groyper, America-only crew
tried to do the exact same thing.
And do you want to know what happened to them?
They got universally rejected by the party.
Now, at the same time, I agree that they're not going anywhere.
And if you don't address those issues, it could only fester and get longer.
And I'm not calling them a cancer.
I'm saying, when you have a cancer, you have to cut it out immediately or it will spread.
And what's happening in a Democratic Party, it has spread.
And I would say that maybe 50%, let's say, of the Democratic Party is now DSA.
There was a cancer growing after Charlie Kirk especially was killed by Tyler Robinson,
allegedly, the cancer started growing.
And the MAGA establishment, as weird as that sounds like now,
because they weren't the establishment 10 years ago,
said, no, no, no, no, no, we're not doing this nonsense.
Let me give you some evidence.
Dan Bilzerian, anti-Maga, anti-Trump, got smoked by allegedly not a great candidate,
Randy Fine.
You talk about Fishback.
Fishback got smoked.
And the reason that Byron Donald, in my opinion, didn't want to debate him because he
wasn't respectful.
It was genuinely racist, anti-Semitic, and just a hot-air candidate, talented, but did not have the goods to actually deliver.
And the voters showed them.
Adam, Adam, the last thing is Jared Moskowitz's defeated largely.
Stay right there. Stay right there. Stay right there on this one.
That position is arrogant.
Whether you're right or wrong is a different story.
The guy got 14%. 12%. He got 140,000 votes.
How much is a vote that he got?
Fishback got 177, Renner got 145, Jay Collins got 426.
177,000 people voted for this guy.
Why?
I'm not dismissing that.
I'm saying that he was rejected, though.
It doesn't.
It wasn't close.
So then what you do is like, for instance, how do I feel about Nick Fuentes?
What is my thoughts about Nick Fuentes?
I'm not going to put words.
Well, very talented debater.
He's very good.
I'm comfortable.
You're saying whatever I've said behind closed doors or in camera.
I'm not. You said he's very good speaker, debater.
He knows he's smart. Why'd I bring him here and talk to him?
Well, you're a different breed of person.
It's not the point. You'll have a conversation.
But bro, like we are, like this is a part right now where the conservatives have to sit there and listen to people.
What are you upset about?
Half the time when you're running a company, your job is to host the town hall and say, what are you not happy with?
Can we do something?
But what's your one rule when somebody comes on the podcast?
Until you actually disrespect them, you will be respectful.
Until they disrespect you.
If someone's disrespecting you to your face, would you actually debate that person?
By the way, if I get...
Respect is a big thing.
Hang on, you're right, it is.
And that's why I said to Nick.
And he came, he was very respectful.
But I also had the other guy from what was a young guy, Thomas Russo.
And he was like even further than when Nick is out.
I mean, he's not even like, but you know what?
I want to know why they're upset about it.
And you know what?
A part of me understand saying, this is my country.
I'm white.
I'm a nationalist.
You came here.
You took jobs away from others.
Okay, fair.
That's a good argument that you're making.
Let's see where the leak is there
or maybe there's a leak in my argument.
But to me, if you go into UFC,
if you go into boxing,
if you go into politics and you're worried about getting offended,
get the hell out of the business.
I didn't say offended.
Disrespected?
Wait, how many times a day this Trump get disrespected?
You're in the big boy arena, buddy.
Don't get into this business.
This is a nasty business.
Go roll and find clubs.
clips about, there's a guy that 90% of videos he does is about me.
I mean, I've had girls that were crazy about me. I've never had any man be disemfatuated
by me. But it's free market. Go make the clips. So to me, a part of it is, a part of it is,
if you're in the game, if you're going into politics to debate, I'm not in that space.
I'm not raising my saying, I want to go. But if you're raising your hand to say you're going to be
the governor of a state, you have to be willing to talk to the other guys. Short term, there won't be
impact. Watch the impact in 10 years. Watch the impact in 10 years. I agree. And look,
what I'm saying. Ultimately what I'm saying is this. The Democratic Party, like, Republican
fighting is actually at an all-time high right now since Trump because of the Charlie Kirk thing.
Yeah. And because of the allegations and made-up stories regarding the assassination.
And a lot of it stemmed from that and then which stemmed from Israel. But what I'm ultimately saying
is this, the Democratic Party, not only are they not rejecting the D.S.
say they're embracing it.
Yeah.
Ilhan Omar, Mamdani,
Al-Sayed from Michigan out there.
That's the new face of the party.
The Republican Party has basically said,
hey, Dan Bilzerian,
hey Jim's Fishback,
hey, Oliver Larkin,
hey, Thomas Massey,
you're no longer welcome here.
You do have valid arguments,
which we can discuss,
but you as a candidate,
you gots to go.
Yeah, and by the way,
there's a difference.
Like, James worked hard.
I'm not saying he's not
I think Dan did, Dan tried to use his massive following to win, but James did the work.
I agree.
So you got to give credit.
Dan Rosarian was the laziest candidate I've ever seen in my life.
Listen, James and I may not be on the same page with policies, but I respect the hell out of the way that he campaign.
Yeah, he works.
Yeah, he works.
And he trolls. And he does his thing.
And the American and the Florida voters were like, yeah.
You know what Nick said on the podcast?
And I think he even made this comments a few weeks ago.
He says, if there's one thing about Charlie, nobody worked like he did.
I asked him a question.
I said, what compliment can he give to Charlie?
He says, dude, I can't work like he does.
He says, I respect the highlight of his work ethic.
So you got to know long term, there are some young cats that are willing to work their asses off
and they're going to exploit your arrogance and entitled attitude.
The way competition works, the moment you get entitled, arrogant, and you start thinking like,
oh, I already got this, you're going to get your ass hands.
I agree with capitalism. Capitalism has no sympathy for you and it could care less how old you are
how rich you are, how wealthy are, it could care less. Have you been following what Nick is saying
about Charlie these days? No. He's been very complimentary of Charlie. He'll always add, look,
we didn't get along. We were not friends. We didn't see it eye to eye, but compliment, compliment,
compliment, compliment, compliment, and all the fake stories out there don't add up.
I'll give him credit for that. And with this whole thing, I think that the bigger picture is this
DSA thing because think about it everybody
Chuck Schumer's backing at him all this
you know Vindman but by the like you guys remember
who Alex Vindman is from
Ukraine lieutenant colonel
he was behind the whole Russia collusion
hoax freaking impeachment yeah
didn't want to out the whistleblower who didn't
have first hand of the call that they
tried to imp you want to talk about the deep state
operative I love what Trump said about him
think about that $16 million
guys didn't do not she had
975000 and she won
and this again goes back on the
Democrats. You guys have the deep state people with all the money and everything, but nobody wants
them. And this goes to blame on the Democrats, they're going after this DSA nonsense path. And on a
national level, we haven't seen anything nationally yet. This is all just local governorship and everything.
Wait until 2028 when AOC freezing her eggs, now she's single and everything. I want to see what on the
national level, if all that hate... I'm going to say this to you, Vinnie. Yeah. The best thing
going on with Republicans right now
is the fact that
socialists are beating Democrats.
There is nothing better than that happening.
Amen.
If the Republicans,
we talked about Kuznos the other day
where Kuznos went from zero to
$5,000 and then all of a sudden they lost it all.
They're down to 132 different stores
and Subway crush them and they got 40,000 stores
and at one point everybody would go to Kuznos
Mosqueat chicken, you know, broccoli cheese, it was the best.
But you know what happened to them?
Even though they were served,
Hey, guess what, Quiznos?
I know you want to take out Subway.
We're going to give you a wild card.
You won't even believe what happened.
What?
The face of the guy, Subway, Jared, just got caught.
Yeah.
With underage kids.
Yeah.
That was like the greatest layup.
And Quiznos dropped the effing ball.
Yep.
And they went bankrupt in 2014.
How nobody has any clue how this happens.
But the Republicans are being handed, a beautiful layup.
if you don't have a solution for guys his age
on what to do with affordability
and it's just lip service,
if you don't have solution for his age,
socialists have a shot at winning.
You can't get arrogant and entitled to that.
I agree.
I'm going to go to story to John right now.
So, John, the Duffy, Sean Duffy,
clip and compost, their wife, his wife,
story comes out about them talking about their daughter
going to Harvard.
And I'm going to come to you with this one here.
This was viral all over the place.
Go for it, guys.
To Harvard?
Yeah.
Well, me and mom can say no.
Catholicism to us is everything.
It's the basis of our marriage, it's the basis of our family.
So I'm nervous about the idea of Paloma going to Harvard.
We spend a lot of time nurturing and providing formation for our kids, giving them an environment where they are steeped in faith and values.
And so the idea of dropping her off at a place that would undermine
that or try to undo all those things makes me worried.
And again, I don't want them to get one viewpoint.
I want them to get a lot of different viewpoints,
but I don't want them fed only one viewpoint
that's contrary to the way my kids were raised.
Listen, my problem is we have thought about how we've raised you
and how hard we've worked to, I think, raise
what is a remarkable young girl.
If I send you there, I think what happens is
they have professionalized, figuring out how they're
out how they can take good young girls like you and I think corrupt their minds.
You don't have to believe what I believe. You don't have to have the political viewpoints that I have,
but I do think it's important that you make those choices for yourself and you have a fair
representation of what they are. And I don't think the Harvard's of the world give you that kind
of well-rounded picture. So you're in University of Michigan right now. Okay. Do you agree with them?
Should they be this worried about sending their daughter to Harvard?
No, I disagree. And this may be controversial, but I think that oftentimes these things can be solved by maybe having more involved parents. I think that if you do a good enough job raising your kid, you send them off to some school where they're going to teach them things that are liberal or immoral, it's going to run off them like water on a raincoat. And frankly, they don't even rely so much on the information. They rely more on the moralizing. So again, I'm shocked. I mean, these classes expecting them to tell me about how evil the founding fathers are. And we read these primary texts from before the country was even established. And they talk about how the founding fathers.
were very skeptical of democracy, very skeptical of giving the franchise to people who didn't own land.
So they had all of these attitudes that were very anti-democratic and there was never any,
so therefore they're evil. Like they counted on the incumbent moralizing of the students,
like going into it thinking, oh, that's scary. There was no challenges to, and so this is wrong,
because obviously, XYZ, they're giving you the information accurately and they're counting on the
cultural programming to make you interpret it in a way that's already negative. And if you do a good
enough job, I think, in the household. You can send your kid anywhere. And now they go to Harvard.
They now have a degree from an Ivy League school. And they're going to be able to use that
to benefit themselves to do something great. And there's the risk, I guess, that they become
a little crazy. But again, you know, there are plenty. Some of the best, actually, most conservative,
most effective people are right now working at, I think the college Republicans at Harvard, like,
very smart guys. And so there is debate. There is that kind of stuff going on. I think that sometimes
parents are just maybe a little bit too relaxed. And then they give their kid freedom for the first time.
They come back to Thanksgiving dinner. And all of a sudden, someone tried to teach.
them something for the first time in their lives.
And so it resonated with them.
And it's like, where were you?
You know, were you sitting down with your kids asking them about what they're learning at school,
taking them to church?
Or did you just kind of sit at the lazy boy?
And then for the first time in your kid's life, someone tried to connect with them.
And all of a sudden it worked.
And you're like blaming the college?
I think that's misguided.
Very good feedback.
What did your parents do?
When you were about to go to college,
how did they shape your mindset from 14 to 18, then off to college?
I was always expected that I was going to go to school.
And then I decided I wanted to kind of go work for myself and do social media
and content creation.
They'll tell the story now that they supported that decision.
That is not true.
When I told them I dropped out, they were both very up.
Because my dad, you know, he built his own business.
So I thought that he would understand.
They're both conservative.
Yes, yes.
And they did not.
They did not support it.
And my dad, though, he has the integrity to acknowledge that now.
My mom, not so much.
I was always your biggest cheerleader.
That's so funny.
We love you, mom and dad.
He's just joking with you, but maybe he's not.
So, okay, Tom, what would you say?
You know, you guys, your daughter, Bailey had 1560 on our SATs at a 1600.
high GPA, capable of going to any school.
What decision did you guys make you and your wife?
Well, we were talking to her early on about, you know, liberal colleges,
and she was on the board for golf scholarship at Georgetown.
But as she chose her major and then said, you know,
I really have discovered that if you go play golf at Georgetown,
they want you to get a polyside degree or take something that doesn't have a lot of rigor to it
so you can dedicate yourself to the scholarship they're giving you to play golf.
And so there was that whole mechanism of the student athlete.
But I was a little concerned about, you know, the liberal side of it.
And we looked at it and I said, you know, my daughter's strong.
And she's going to be able to roll through it.
But I didn't want her to go study just liberal arts at an Ivy League school.
We looked at Wharton and we looked at their balance program because Wharton is an undergrad program.
It's not just a grad school at Penn.
And ultimately, she said when she settled on her major, then we started looking at
at the schools, and she selected where she selected, which was, you know, 42% conservative and moderate.
It's like only about 5, 10% conservative and about 29% moderate.
This is Rice, and everything else is liberal or very liberal.
But you said about water off your back, Bailey is strong, and Bailey is not out there.
Were you worried, though?
Were you worried that even they could get somebody like Bailey?
I was, yeah, you're always worried, but what percent are you worried?
I've never been worried about Bailey.
Yeah.
I wasn't worried, but I was, I recognize the influence is going to be there.
And I was like, okay, how many trips can I make?
What can I do?
How can I stay close as a family?
How do you keep the dialogue?
Because they live incredibly busy lives.
Yeah.
So ultimately, her major and where she selected worked out really well.
But we had a lot of conversations about this.
And we also had a lot of conversation about what we would see on campus with the council culture.
and what was happening at that time.
Remember what year this is.
She's her junior now.
So what was going on three years ago?
Sure.
Yeah, there was a, you know what?
Don't be Jewish on campus was more of a worry than don't be conservative on campus
because there were, you know, Jewish students.
She became Jewish?
No, no, no.
No, I'm talking about Jewish students.
I didn't think she would do it.
I'm so excited for it.
Adam, of all people, you shouldn't be joking,
Jewish students at Columbia were being actively persecuted with fears of physical harm
walking across campus in New York City
in the United States of America, right?
Adams was self-hating Jew.
Okay, well, I mean, listen, to me,
you know, when I talk to the kids
and we talk about what college to go to,
our job is to shape their mindset.
When we took him to, he went to Yale
for three weeks out of camp,
and the person that signed him in was a transgender.
When he's getting his idea, he's just looking,
he's like, what's going? I said, buddy, I prepped you.
It's going to be a little weird, man.
You're all shocked.
You're going to go to a complete different environment,
and he was 13 years old.
And he's kind of like, hey,
you need a little bit of that friction to come back in process, come back in process, come back.
One of the great things about a sales leader.
I love sales.
Anybody that's in the sales business, I think if salespeople stop tomorrow, the world would stop.
But great sales leaders, you know what they do with rookie salespeople?
Here's what they do.
You go and run three appointments today.
At the end of the night, a great sales leader will make the phone call to you at 10 o'clock
and we'll say, walk me through what happened in the appointments today.
What objections did they give you?
How did you overcome it?
did you say? Where did you get stuck? Let's roll play. You be them. I'll be the salesperson. You
be the customer. And you roll play. So when the kids go through something, how was your day? What happened?
What came up? Here's what they said. What do you? So what was your respond? What did you get stuck on?
This is what? Dad, one of the guys said this. And what do you think about that? Because they told me in the
history that George Washington was a slave owner. How do you feel about that? So you need to have that
follow up. If you don't have that conversation with them, they could get lost. Adam. What do you do with your seven kids?
When my seven kids.
Well, I agree with our friend John here.
Listen, if you go to Harvard, if you've worked your tail off in high school and you've done so well for yourself and you get admitted to Harvard, you go to Harvard.
But if you're that father, you have that conversation.
Hey, I want you to prepare for this.
There's multiple levels with this.
By the way, we're talking about Sean Duffy, who was the current transportation secretary, I believe.
Who was the former?
Pete Buttigieg.
Pete Buttigieg.
Where did put a judge go to college, to Harvard?
So there's some stuff going on there behind the scenes.
Meanwhile, I looked up where Sean Duffy went,
went to a small private Catholic school in Minnesota.
So there's some behind the scenes there.
But here I'll tell you a story.
You talked about Jewish kids going to Harvard.
You know my friend Keith.
He's got a nephew.
Stud.
Absolute stud of a kid.
Six, four, built like just an absolute stud.
I said, you're Jewish.
You're a stud.
You go to Harvard.
How's anti-Semitism on campus?
He goes, yeah, it sucks.
Nobody's messing with me, though, bro.
I'll kick their ass.
I go, what do you mean?
He goes, they're all liberal weirdos.
Think I'm scared of these guys?
I was like, oh, I didn't even think about that.
He goes, they'll take 10 of them to mess with me.
I was like, wow, look at that.
He goes, let me tell you the upside of Harvard.
You have no idea who you're going to meet here.
He goes, it's the best, the best of the best from around the world.
I have billionaire son friends.
I got investor friends.
He goes, as soon as I graduate, boom, I'm making millions.
He goes, you're not going to liberal indoctrinate me or have me hate being or not proud being Jewish.
I'm going to show up, be a gangster.
Max is, I don't know, probably 21 now.
He's probably ready to graduate?
Is this Keith's son or nephew?
Oh, nephew.
I haven't met him, yeah.
But when you go, you know, you say you are the sum of the five people you hang out with the most, I met some of his friends.
Absolute studs.
He goes, it's bad, but don't get, don't get fooled by some of the stuff that's going.
going on here. You can become who you want to become. If you can get into Harvard, you go to Harvard.
Just don't go woke. You go broke. Okay. All right. So having said that, let's get into the next story.
Next time I want to get into is what's going on with, are you guys following what people are saying
nowadays with this Lindsay Clancy story. I'm sure your phone is really positive. Vinny hasn't slept in
four days. You have no. Pat, when I bring it up and John, I know you have some stuff to say about it,
People are mad.
Like, you don't know.
And she's this.
And it was the husband.
And I'm like, well, you, what the hell are you talking about?
Let's go through some of this stuff.
Because Candace also commented on this.
I want to play that clip as well.
And I'm going to get some of your thoughts on where people are out with this.
So to do a quick recap, she asks her husband to leave.
He leaves one by one by one with a gym.
What do you call it?
Workout band.
Workout band.
Yeah.
She ends up killing her eight-month-old, her three-year-old.
and a five-year-old.
If I'm getting it wrong, correct me there.
And then she was on a bunch of SSR-I medication prior to that.
Even went to a mental hospital, then they released her saying she's okay.
She's going to be fine.
And yes, she's got some stuff, but she's dealing with, but she's going to be okay.
They let her go.
Then she comes back.
This happens.
Now people are protesting.
Women are protesting outside saying it's not her fault.
And she tried to kill herself.
Like when the husband walked in, Pat, neck slit.
She tried to kill herself.
She jumped off to her house.
She's paralyzed.
Second, she tried to jump out the second story of her house.
And so they're filming themselves hanging out of windows too.
And, you know, to stand in solidarity.
So let's play some of the clips.
Let's play some of the clips.
And I'm going to come to you guys.
So here's one.
I'm going to play 304 clips.
So this is one of the clips.
Go for it.
What's going on here?
These are people supporting her.
Thousands of women that are supporting her.
Supporting her.
Yeah.
Okay.
Right outside.
So they're supporting her to say it's not her fault and she kind of went through it.
Okay, can we go to one one of the clips of somebody that's,
describing what happens and why it's not her fault.
You know, one of the clips.
Go ahead.
I feel like the system failed her.
The system failed her.
She's big and paled, but no one was there.
I don't know if us being here will make her feel any better, but I mean, she's living in hell right now.
I just wanted to support Lindsay and just say it could be, you know, one of my sister-in-laws,
it could be one of my best friends, and it could be me.
So just here to support.
We are hearing her.
We see that she tried everything.
And I really do believe.
that she went into a state of psychosis.
Glancy's supporters call her attorney Kevin Reddington a champion of women's rights.
Is she aware of this support and what does she think of this support?
I'm going to go in and see her right now. I'm sure that she is and if she isn't she will be.
What do you think about? She's so beat up and just so sad. This will really help her out. I think.
Tell her we love her. The crowd of about two to 300 people lined the road as,
Lindsay Clancy was brought into the courthouse.
Okay. So can you pause it?
And then if you, I think you guys sent a clip from Candace, if you want to play that as well,
and here's Candice's position. Go forward.
I made my thoughts clear on this.
The moment that she was arrested, the moment that it made the news,
Lindsay Clancy is obviously not guilty.
There are a fleet of doctors who should be imprisoned for what they put her on.
I regularly speak out against Big Pharma.
They get away with murder all the time.
And in this case, they are getting,
away with the murder of really her three children, but also completely destroyed her life.
When Lindsay Clancy, in my opinion, is not guilty.
She was put into an intentional psychosis when she probably just needed to give her kids away for
a weekend to get better, but they constantly give you these drugs that do not make things
better.
And the cocktail of 10 pharmaceuticals that she was on is absolute madness.
Absolute madness.
I made my thoughts clear.
So you can pause that and then go to the last one with this lady.
and then we'll get into it.
Go forward.
The one that you guys are telling me you want to show.
I haven't seen this one.
No, no, the one you just texted me.
The one you just texted me.
That's her on the bottom, right?
Guys, this one, you just, literally you just texted me
to say this is the one you want to play.
Is that the one or is it a different one?
In January of 2023,
Lindsay, go ahead.
Clancy, a Massachusetts mother of three
strangled her three kids to death
in her basement with exercise bands.
They were five, three, and eight months old.
Her trial is this week.
She's being charged with three.
first-degree murder. And the question is whether or not she was undergoing a psychotic episode and didn't mean it.
I get what you're saying. You can pause it right here. So, John, where's your position out with this?
So on one end, a lot of these women that are following saying it's not her fault. It's the doctor's
fault. You know, they medicated her. We're trying to find a solution for this. And then some are saying,
wait a minute, she just killed her three kids. What do you mean it's not her fault? What's your position?
Yeah, I don't know if this has been your guy's experience. But in my experience, I tend to find that
women struggle with accountability sometimes.
And so I think that, you know, it makes sense that they would all want to take to the streets and
say that they sympathize with her because they could see themselves doing that, which if you're a
mother, that's kind of a disturbing thing to say if you have children, you know, putting that idea
into their mind that, like, you perhaps could have had a bad day and killed them.
But I think she's obviously guilty.
I think that everything people are trying to do here is absolve her of guilt by saying it's
the system's fault, which the subtext of that is it's like the male-dominated system
or something.
All of the doctors who wrote her those prescriptions were female doctors.
She was also doctor shopping specifically for medications.
All the doctors that gave it to were a female doctor?
Yeah, she was going out of her way to get these medications,
and then she was also getting them, I believe, from if not all, like primarily female doctors.
And people who are in psychosis, you can see body cam footage of this.
They try to fight police officers.
If she were actually in like a psychotic episode, she would have not waited for her husband to leave.
She wouldn't have commanded him to leave.
She would have tried to take on her entire family.
And then also, too, you mentioned she tried to commit suicide.
I don't know if I buy that.
I think that maybe she murdered her three children, and then she got into a situation where
she realized what she had done and she felt remorse because the cuts that she'd made on herself
had stopped bleeding by the time the husband came back.
The way that she'd cut her neck wasn't like that bad.
And even the medication she took was found to be at like sustainable levels in her system.
So her attempt to cut herself and her attempt to overdose on drugs doesn't seem to be indicative
of someone who clearly is able to take life.
It seemed like she was kind of doing a half measure or something perhaps to justify this.
I was just psychotic.
I didn't mean to because she knew at that point.
that was her only legal defense.
Vinnie.
So, okay, and I agree with John to a certain extent,
and I want everybody to understand this,
and we all know this.
Mental illness is real.
And I'm not a woman, so I don't know,
but postpartened psychosis, depression,
all that is real.
And mothers who are suffering,
they obviously deserve compassion,
treatment and help.
But compassion, and you know how we are
about accountability,
cannot mean you abandon that.
You cannot abandon accountability.
And this is what bothers me, Pat,
about the whole situation.
Her defense says,
postpartum psychosis,
explains how a loving mother could strangle three of her children. But guess what?
Millions and millions of people around the world suffer from mental illness. Millions hear
voices. They have horrific thoughts. They never murder anyone. Okay. And they're on all types of
drugs. Okay. Mental illness cannot automatically erase your moral responsibility. And Pat,
in our search to find out Lindsay and what happened and this or that. You know who we can't
find out about? Forget about? Are those three kids, okay? That's who you do. Stop. All this
nonsense, Cora, Dawson, and Callan.
Okay? For four minutes, she's strangling one and the other ones are sitting there watching
Mommy. I understand all the guys, I get it. I get it. And we have friends here that have
wives and they've been through and they have family members. Do not forget about these three
freaking kids that had the worst last moments on this earth in their life, okay? They should
be alive. They should be able to grow up, go to school, fall in love, and have families of
their own. Okay? Those lives matter.
So we can have compassion for this mental illness without excusing evil.
We can show mercy without abandoned injustice.
And whatever explanation ultimately comes out in this courtroom, okay,
it should never erase what happened to these three innocent children.
Put all that nonsense aside.
God rest their souls, because I know where they are right now,
but don't forget about them.
That's what I have to say about that.
Amen to that.
I don't need to say anything more than that.
Just the prayers to the grandparents, the friends, the family,
the other little kids that are at school that went to class.
You know, went to kindergarten with the older one.
And he's not there anymore.
And they got to explain that to these little kids of what happened to their little friends.
Vinny, God bless you.
Amen.
There are three things going on here.
And all three of them, you know, are deep concern.
Number one, postpartum is real.
And the people that are out there trying to raise attention for postpartum so it can be treated properly
are out there using this as a flag.
Second thing, SSRIs and the pharmaceutical industry.
that is out there that wants to invent new drugs, you know, for profit.
That's what they do.
They're out there, and there's a group out there saying, wait a minute,
the pharmaceutical industry, the SSRIs, and the cocktails are being inappropriately, you know,
prescribed and it's creating problems here.
There's that camp.
And then there's the camp that is like, you know, was she competent to stand trial or not?
Or was she insane?
We go through an immense amount of testing in this country.
before we grant the insanity defense.
And so, you know, was she insane or was she not insane?
Is she capable of standing trial?
If she capable of standing trial, she's accountable.
But the other two camps, I believe that the postpartum people mean well,
and they're trying to raise awareness for it,
but they're using this case as a flag.
See, we told you.
And then you have the people over there that are the doctors should be in prison.
And by the way, that's the Candace camp.
The Candice camp is look at what these physicians we're prescribing.
look at the drugs they're using, look at the cocktail that's out there, the doctors should be in prison.
That's their camp.
And so this has become this big lasagna pat where everything's kind of mixed together.
It's, is she insane or not?
Do you believe postpartum, yes.
Do you got to get treatment and you got to get investment for that to help?
And then is the cocktail being inappropriately administered?
Adam.
I actually think Candace has a point here.
And I'll explain why.
This is not a black and white issue.
This is not guilty, innocent.
There's a lot of nuance here.
And I didn't think that I would even go deep on the story, but I did.
What I realized is that that's postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis are not the same thing at all.
Correct. Depression, anxiety, sadness, all the fears that come with that, all that kind of stuff.
Psychosis, you're having, it's like you're taking crazy pills.
There's voices in your head.
There were voices in her head telling you, kill your kids.
There's voices doing this.
Now, where I think Candace has a point, look, I'll just come out and say,
I think Candace is dead wrong about Charlie, dead wrong.
On this, she has a point.
With this cocktail of drugs, this lady was on,
Kaladapin, Azadabin, Adadabina, and the doctors are prescribing this?
And knowing that she is on all these pills,
what could go wrong with a person who's clinically depressed
or has psychosis with all these pills?
what could possibly happen.
Well, we found out what happened.
Three of her kids are dead.
So the doctors are going to have some accountability here.
That's what I agree with that.
Now, here's where I'll land this plane.
Do I think that she's going to be convicted of first-degree murder?
I don't think so.
Will it be manslaughter or kid-slaughter?
I think so.
But Adam, that mental, and I'm so sorry,
but that mental illness, you can't erase what she did, Adam.
And this is all I'm going to say for the,
the last time.
Imagine being eight months,
three years old and five.
I don't know the order of how she killed him.
And you're watching Mommy.
I don't care.
I'm with you.
You're killing.
I'm with you a million percent.
And so accountability,
Adam,
there's so many people out there
that are bat shit crazy
every day that hears stuff.
They don't go through with it.
I'll ask you one simple question.
Yeah.
And I think it's something that Pat would do.
What percentage do you think this was her
willfully doing this?
And what percentage?
Was it the drugs?
I think it was a...
Give me a percentage.
He said the greatest cocktail.
I don't know percentage.
But just in your opinion, this is all just opinion.
Say what percentage was her doing it?
What percentage was caused because of taking the drugs?
7030.
She was...
She's the one that did it.
Most part of the depression.
I'm with them.
I'm with them.
So you think it's mostly her.
Mostly the depression.
30% of the dress.
I see it kind of inversely.
Well, and again, I don't know what...
That's your opinion.
How many people take SSRI?
Can you pull up how many people take SSRI?
Oh, believe me.
I'm not going to defend the over-medicated community.
No, what I'm saying to you is how many people take,
the basic way to do the math on this is how many people in U.S. take SSRIs?
But can I give you one more please?
Yeah, of course.
How many people take this many SRIs?
How many people are taking 10 pills at a time?
But I heard she wasn't, but she wasn't taking all 14 or all 10.
She was prescribed all these things.
She was dosing them herself too, so she wasn't taking all of them that she was prescribed.
And also, I'm pretty sure when you get these prescribes.
you have to answer the doctors. Are you taking any other medication? So maybe they were over prescribing. She could have lied. But then is that not her false? She chose to then lie. I agree with that. So I think that. By the way, by the way, just when you, a few things, husband was well off. He made good money working from home. Family was supportive. Had access to nanny. Allegedly all these things that are in place that she's going through this. And you know, you know, this is the one thing that is probably nobody is in more pain right now. Of course.
the three kids, they're no longer with us.
Imagine being the husband, and what are you replaying?
You know what you're replaying?
Why did I leave her alone with the kids?
Nonstop.
If you know your wife or anybody in the family is dealing with something like this,
imagine it's like, why did I leave?
By the way, he's going to replay that for the rest of his life.
And I'm not even putting this out there.
There's a chance he might be on suicide watch.
Are you kidding me?
Your entire life was evaporated.
in a 20-minute run to the convenience store yeah i don't know i mean when you get issues like this that
happened you have to be very careful to not put the onus on the individual
because if you don't put the onus on the individual other people will look at this at me inspired
to say well i did it and it wasn't my fault it was because of what you gave me for sure
you have to be very very careful with messaging i agree with
of what some people can take this and you know it's like why did i walk out of the movie joker
because the jokers are killing the capital as you become a hero and then luci majohnie becomes a hero and look what
he's got going on today.
And it's like, yeah, I did kill the guy.
Wow.
I'm telling you I did kill the guy.
What are you going to do about it?
I did.
Man June.
Yeah, Man June.
And there's still people defending him.
And no, but you think Luigi's going to be the last one doing that?
No way.
Watch what's going to happen next few years.
Watch what's going to happen next few years.
So you just got to be careful with the messaging and how you're allowing people to have an
alibi.
I lost a friend.
And I went to the dentist that kept giving him Vicodin.
And the guy that was selling him to Vicodin, I went up to that kid.
I know his name till today.
and he would buy this from the dentist at $4 a pop.
He would buy the Vicodin from, and he sold it to my guy.
And my guy took it, and he passed away.
He took 50 pills of Vicodin one night, and he was done.
And I took the Vicodin out of his hands
in the back of a Shakey's restaurant in Glendell.
That visualization never goes away.
So I also put a fair amount of responsibility on these doctors
and what they're doing on the sign.
A lot of these guys need to lose their licenses.
There's a lot of these people that are doing it.
need to, there needs to be examples made of these guys losing their license.
That's essentially what Candace was saying, no?
That part I'm with, but we have to make sure we're measured to put the onus on the individual
and not have an out because somebody else will step up and say, that's why I did.
I didn't do it.
It wasn't my fault.
It was a my fault.
It was a my fault.
So we have to be very, this is a very, very sensitive topic that we're going through.
Okay, let's go to the next story.
Next story I want to get into is a story of Sophie Cunningham.
So Sophie Cunningham hints at WMBA, commissioner.
shake-up as she goes after Kathy Englebert.
If you guys got the clip in the back, you want to get that prepared.
I'll read the story and we'll go to the clip.
Indiana FIFA Guard, Sophie Cunningham,
suggested WMA Commissioner, Kathy Engelper's job
could be open up for this season.
Let me know if you guys found that clip on X.
There's a clip on this on X.
If you want to find it, you do have a person in power who is bold,
who is confident, who wants to be the best for the players
and not maybe for themselves all the time.
Cunningham told USA Today.
So I do feel like, as a whole, that could be a position that's maybe open at the end of the year, but that's not my call.
Let me read that one more time.
I do feel like as a whole, that could be a position that's maybe open at the end of the year.
What are you talking about?
That means the commissioner positions may be open at the end of the year.
She added, Kathy Engelberg's done a lot of good things, but with where our league is trying to go,
I feel like you just want someone who also wants that.
that's up to the NBA commissioner Adam Silver at the end of the day.
Sophie Cunningham is calling out directly saying,
Adam, at the end of the day, you're the top rats.
You've got to make a decision.
Silver was non-committal at NBA Summer League in mid-July.
I think Kathy continues to do a strong job building that league,
while noting we'll have ongoing discussions about the future looks like.
He praised the tremendous progress under Englebird,
included contentious March CBA and six expansion teams through 2030.
Engelberg has drawn fireover player.
relationship and social justice handling with Minnesota Linkstar, Neficia Collier, also voicing
displeasure. Tom, why is this so important that a superstar like, Caitlin, Caitlin Clark is the
superstar, but nobody is getting more voice and hurt on our opinions than Sophie. Katie may be
the superstar. Sophie's the voice, spokesperson for a lot of these people that don't have the courage
to say it. Why is it so important, Tom? Because I think there's one word about Cunningham's position.
authentic. And the second word I put under there is fair. She has been authentic and fair. She has
not been bombastic. And people are seeing the authenticity. Even Caitlin Clark has kind of stepped back
from some things that she could have, should have said, or taking a position on and she wanted to be
noncommittal where Sophie Cunningham is not. And she's like, hey, this is here. This statement by
Sophie Cunningham is very, very clear. And by the way, what's even more clear is, Pat, Pat, you
understand it as a leader. Adam Silver has been non-committal. And you know why he can be non-committal?
You know what the expiration date on Engler's contract is? Who's contract?
Kathy? What? December 31st, 2026. He doesn't have to say anything. He can let it roll out.
Her contact's up at the end of the year. He doesn't have to get into a media firestorm.
He can get to the end of the year. It can decide what they're going to do, put somebody else there.
And so, and by the way, I don't blame him. But to you, to you.
your point on her. She's authentic and non-bombastic, Pat. And that's why people listen to her.
I know very little about the WNBA. I thought for sure you're like a diehard.
Bro, it's the biggest sport in the world. Wake up. Where are you at? Where you're
been? I just, I was thinking about this the other day. And it's almost as if this was a plan,
Tom, like an attempt to bring some attention to a sport. Yes, they're making the money,
but it's just unwatchable. Look at the attention. Guys, this is,
I think about the fourth week, we're talking about it.
We have so many issues that we talk about.
They're bringing this.
They're doing that.
Transgender's this, all this type of situation.
I think this might be a real, purposeful ploy to bring people and eyeballs and everything.
And you know what?
I wouldn't be surprised if they actually let some biological men come on that court
because at least it would make it watchable.
I tried.
I'm not even joking.
I tried to watch a couple of minutes.
And just watching, what's her name?
Reese?
What's her name?
Angel Reese.
Angel Reese,
laying,
it's such.
Some people called her.
She's good.
She's like the Jordan.
Yeah,
the Jordan.
I think it was ARI Spears.
He said something like,
she looked like a baby giraffe trying to stand.
Like,
you know,
they can't even move.
I think it's all the point because it's unwatchable.
But it's like the attention that they're trying to get is unbelievable.
But I respect Sophie Cunningham because,
what's the word that you said?
Authentic and fair.
And there's two words,
too.
I'm going to add on top of that.
Common sense.
If you have male genitalia and you were born a male,
this all started, go try to play in the NBA.
That's your job, okay?
Go for that.
And this is unbelievable that none of them
because they're in this umbrella.
But you know the Democrats always say,
we have a big tent.
We have a big tent.
This LGBTQ tent, they can't go against the grain.
They can't go against it.
And I think it's absolutely ridiculous.
Well, it's not about Kathy.
They got to make a decision.
And Pat pointed it out last time
when we were talking about this.
If they got together and said
they couldn't figure out what a woman was,
they couldn't figure it out.
Wait a minute.
Tennis chose one way.
The U.S.O.C. Doping Committee chose one way.
The international IOC chose one way.
All of these organizations, WTA, chose one way.
They've all chosen something, right?
And they're not all unified.
They've made a decision about trans or trans athletes or things.
They've all decided it.
Whereas the WMBA goes in a room and they figure out nothing in eight hours of debate.
And it's like, guess what?
You make a statement here and Pat made a prediction.
Pat's prediction on AOC was pretty good.
His prediction is, you know what?
I wouldn't be surprised if all of a sudden,
if they take a stand one way or the other,
what was it you said, Pat?
You wouldn't be surprised.
If there's men playing.
That suddenly have to retire.
They're worried about that they have to retire.
Sudden retirement.
So I have a different perspective.
Go ahead.
Follow the money here, guys.
Do you know what the average W.A. NBA salary was last year?
80,000.
Yeah, this is before the Caitlin Clark.
Before the Caitlin Clark.
What do you think it is now?
Contracts.
$125.
It's almost a half a million dollars.
Oh, damn.
These women are making money now.
Okay?
Here we go.
$120,000 last year.
So there's a lot of money coming in here.
So follow the money guys for a second.
Now, the average length of a sports career is three to five years.
So get the money when you can, ladies,
because some of these ladies are going to be absolute nobodies
with a couple million bucks in the,
pocket. Let me tell you why I think
Sophie Cummingham is brilliant.
Because she says, look, I'm a decent
player. I'm better looking than I am
that I have skills. She's looking at
people like Riley Gain. She's looking at people at Sage
Steel and goes, what am I going to do in five years
and I'm done with basketball?
I can do whatever the hell I want to do.
I'm going to create a market for myself.
Want to be a congresswoman? Boom. I want
to start a business? Boom. Who's not going to
invest in Sophie Cunningham's podcast? We
would. So what I think is
she's looking at the lay of the market and goes, just
keep doing this.
She's going to end up making tens of millions of dollars,
not even from basketball.
Now, let me give some unsolicited advice
to any other pretty black girl in the WMBA.
Be different.
Don't follow the crowd.
Go be a pretty black girl in the WMBA
and say, you know what?
I agree with Sophie.
No dudes in the league. No chicks with Dix.
And watch how many people follow this person.
These women, for a very short period of time, are in an incredible position to make an actual difference.
For themselves or possibly the league.
You know, I feel about the WMBA.
Garbage product, garbage in, garbage out.
But for the black girl who wants to be the new Sophie coming in, it's for yours for the take.
Let's see if they have the balls to step up.
You're not saying that her initial, I think Sophie's genuine and she's authentic that she started this whole thing.
Oh, 100% genuine.
You're saying keep going because now you can capitalize.
I think that she might have not been a big picture thinker, but now she has to be.
There's too much money on the line and too much opportunity.
All right.
Let's go to next story.
Let's go to next story.
Next story is a weird story.
But you know, this whole Grand Theft Auto 6 is about to come out and it's going a little bit crazy out there.
Army unit offers four-day pass.
They call it a Danza to play Grand Theft Auto 6 as re-enlistment incentive.
This is a CBS news.
What a crazy story, but I love the story.
An Army Battalion at Fort Stewart, Georgia, is often, I think that's an AIT base,
is offering active duty soldiers a four-day pass to play Grand Theft Auto 6 as a re-enlistment incentive.
Time to the game's November 19 release, 20 soldiers in the 9th Brigade Engineer Battalion,
part of the 3rd Infantry Division, have already chosen it.
About 130 are eligible.
Soldiers must re-enlist for 2 to 6 years between August 1st and November 14.
The idea was a unique incentive program that connects to what soldiers are interested.
in. Lieutenant Colonel Angel Tomko, a third infantry division spokesperson said the incentive
isn't service-wide, but could expand. The game set in a fictional Miami with the series'
first female lead follows 2013 GTA-5. The Army's courtship of gamers isn't new. After missing
its recruiting goal in 2018, the service launched in e-sports team around Call of Duty, Fortnite,
and League of Legends and send recruiters to gaming conventions. In 2019, Major General Frank Muth
gave, then overseeing
recruiting command said gaming skills
overlap with army jobs. It's the
decision making. It's the ability to
take in a lot of information quickly
and to be able to make a decision. It's about teamwork.
Vinny, would this have convinced you to stay
in the airport?
No, listen. Would that have work
for you? No, but you know what? Vinnie might go back in now.
I remember the day
because I was in during 9-11. They did
stop loss because I was supposed to get out
when 9-11 happened and
the Bush administration basically does this thing called
stop loss where they're like, we can't afford to lose anybody. You guys are staying. So I had to
stay basically, not against my will, but I was like, you know, America, I'm staying as a New Yorker.
But when it was done, there was no wake up call. There wasn't no, I just was at my desk and a
colonel comes back. They give me a contract. They go, hey, Oshana, six years, $60,000 bonus.
Take it, take it or leave it. And I'm not, you. Remember, I was kicking butt in an Air Force.
And I don't know what it was. I didn't talk to my mom, nothing. I just went, you know what, sir,
I think I'm going to go to Hollywood and chase my dream of being an actor.
And they were like, what do you say?
Like, what?
And then I got under investigation, he's smoking weed and all that stuff.
But this is actually, it's kind of genius, Pat.
It's actually pretty good because they're saying like, hey, give us two years of your life.
We'll give you a long weekend for GTA.
But my thing is they better at least throw in the game for free.
Are you not going to throw in the game?
Do they get to keep the damn game?
But I mean, listen, the numbers are down for the freaking enlistment.
Anything, anything to get people to join.
How many people already are joining?
point, Pat? How many people?
Out of 130 eligible people, I think four people joined.
That's what we need. I heard it was, I heard it was 20.
Okay, so then let's change it. It wouldn't make me.
What if it was a pound of wheat instead of the 60,000?
Tom would do it.
What do you mean?
Tom would have dove over it.
Graham is plenty for time.
Tom would have reenlisted for the rest of his life.
Well, Brigadier General Ellsworth would probably still be.
John, position on this.
Those are the guys you want. You want the killers.
You want the guys who are into the violent video games.
We've waited like 15 years for this game, I think.
So they may even take the contract, go back for six years and come back,
and GTA 6 might not even be out yet.
They might go into like decade two of developing that game.
And I heard they leaked it or something,
which maybe that's like some kind of foreign operation,
seeing that this could be such a successful program for the U.S. military,
they're like, we're just going to leak it so anyone can play it.
You lose your recruitment.
I mean, listen, it's the hottest thing in town.
Everybody's waiting for this.
It's the biggest release ever.
Few billion dollars already committed to the game.
raise the prices on it. They got different options on what things you can do with it.
Tom, how do you see this story? So there's a couple angles to this. And what people need to see
is very slowly, but very steadily, the pilot in the airplane is being replaced by the pilot
with the joystick that's in, what was that, until Tom Daschel closed it, Ellsworth Air Force Base
in the South Dakota, where they ran the B-2s, was the first place, supposedly, that they had
remote drone pilots. So these were kids with exceptional
eye sight, hand-eye coordination, and Twitch that were actually piloting drones remotely.
So you had hyper-skilled gamers being recruited.
Look at this.
FAA hires 2,000 gamers, air traffic controllers.
And the Army has also developed an e-sports team.
They have those e-sports teams.
They go and they sit there and four of those big gamer chairs and they compete with each other.
The Army has an e-sports team.
So there's a couple things going on.
One is a reality is people are going to be calling in sick on that day.
The second reality, someday, somewhere Xi is looking, maybe best day to get Taiwan is right here, you know, on the launch of GTA where the world's distracted.
But the third thing is the military, there they are, there's the military e-sports team, is they're recruiting gamers and they're below their quota.
And so to show some, to show a little bit of, you know, empathy and connection with gamers, I think it's a smart move by the military.
And by the way, we need to enlist people with gamer skills
because that's the people that are going to be flying drones in the future
as they become even more sophisticated.
Yeah, I think the incentive is too small.
I think you're right.
They've got to give the game.
They got to give.
Is it Xbox or the PlayStation?
Which one is it on?
GTA?
It should be for both games.
Okay.
It's got to be both.
They got to give all of, if they offered you 60K in what year, 0102,
if they offered you 60K at that time.
For six years.
They gave me a GI bill of $26,500.
If they offered that then,
and you just are giving me a four-day weekend,
it's got to be more than that.
It's got to be like,
we'll buy you a ticket to go to the national tournament,
whatever that's going on,
and, you know, a system, both Xbox and PlayStation
and the game signed.
It's got to be something a little bit juicer,
apparently it's now 20 people that have re-listed.
But that shows you how desperate people,
that means people are not joining the military.
Our enlistment numbers,
like as much as there,
We're being tough and it's the Department of War and stuff.
People aren't joining anymore.
And guys, at the end of the day, we need soldiers.
I understand the robotic stuff and the AI and the drones and all that stuff, but you still
need people.
And that was a great story.
Think about it.
People that are playing an air traffic control video game, the government's going after them
and going, hey, listen, you didn't crash any planes during your 10-hour freaking game.
We're going to hire you.
And apparently they filled up 96% of the recruitment got hired.
What was it?
94% of its hiring because of a video game.
So go over there.
Look, I'm going to stay in my lane.
I didn't serve.
I mean, you're wearing a military jacket.
Listen, man.
Yeah, salute you.
I got massive respect for our military.
When we were at the UFC at the White House, I know we had a great time, guys.
Amazing.
The military, the servicemen and women, they got more respect than the fighters.
I got massive respect for these guys.
I won't understand how it works, though, Pat.
You get recruited.
You're in.
for how many years, they try to bring you back in, they try to incentivize you for the laymen
out there, which is 99% of us, walk me through how it works. This is how you get recruited.
This is how many, how much time you have to serve. This is how they try to recruit you. These are
the incentives. This is the annual. Re-enlistment or just regular? Well, you know how many times
I've heard the name, Lieutenant Colonel Peacocks? You kidding me? That David. Re-enlist or
in this? Walk me through the whole beginning. In-list, they start in high school. They come
And they talked to you, hey, you would be great, you know, man, it's such a great experience.
Women love men in uniform.
It's like a PIMS.
They're literally, that's what they're saying.
They're PIMS.
They're like, hey, hey, you.
And they're, they're cat calling.
I mean, they're very, they're very good.
So you were like, saw me up.
Well, the guy that got me, Jesus Gera got me at 14 years old.
And I didn't get in until I was 17 years old.
Oh, yeah.
He kept saying, but David, I'm telling me, the school stuff's not for you.
You would do very good in the military.
You'd have a very good career.
And then eventually it happened.
But re-enlist, they start six months before your ETS.
What does that mean?
I don't know.
Re-enlist.
So let you say your ETS is coming out where you're getting out.
ETS is you're leaving the military.
Can you pull up what ETS stands for?
I think it's termination service.
ETS expiration term of service.
So you're about to get out when you're ETSC.
And then they'll start saying, what do you want to do?
So maybe you'll ask, I want a different MOS.
I want a different job.
I want to go to a different base.
First time around, they'll tell you, what base would you like to?
Oh yeah, it's called a dream sheet, Pat.
You're never getting good pace.
And then when he said, hey, Jesus, I thought you told me I'm going to Germany.
Yeah, man, I really fought hard for you.
But you got Kentucky.
You know how many Middle Easterers are in Kentucky?
He says, I got to go.
Says, no, man, they gave you Kentucky.
I'm so sorry.
But eventually on your second enlistment, they'll give you whatever you want.
So second time you get to ask where you want to go.
Okay.
How many years are the enlistments for?
The late entry is two and a half years.
Longest could be six, some could be eight.
But it's generally two to six years.
So then, you know, I said, no, I'm getting out.
But let me tell you what I did find.
And I almost didn't want to show this.
But if you guys know, this is going viral all over the internet.
An old picture of Tom.
What?
An old picture of Tom.
In the military?
Do you have this one?
Canadian military?
Tom.
General.
You weren't Pat?
Oh, my.
Salute.
So this is Tom.
This is Tom.
And Tom didn't want this.
Listen, he didn't want this to be shown.
Illusion gave him.
General Bet David.
See that.
He's wearing your uniform, sir.
Tom,
you can make your favorite noise right now if you want.
Can you see Tom looks like a general right here, right?
Except with the,
with the what he called.
Tom's gone.
The bog is huge.
So listen.
I can see Tom getting into a press conference right now.
Listen,
we've eliminated the enemy right here.
The foreign combatants have had no chance.
You know that video we did when they said,
you know,
who is more likely to bail you out of jail?
Who is more likely to do this?
Yeah.
Who's like,
who was fired more people?
people, everybody went on Tom's side, right?
We're going to do one for the podcast.
Okay. And we're going to see what the crew's going to say here,
because people really need to know who Tom really is.
Can we do that? I don't think people really know that, and we'll do that here soon.
But anyways, okay.
Now, this is me at the congressional hearing.
I was asking, Senator, we need to ship 14 million of these to China along with some Bob Marley
tape.
Yeah, play that clip real quick, watch this clip.
14 million something views. Go ahead.
Start it from the beginning.
Solo, Chad.
Who's more likely to talk your ear off for an hour?
You gotta win at something.
Who's more likely to be late to their own team meeting?
Come on, guys.
I'm doing a look.
All stuck.
No, Pat's already sitting there.
Who drops more F-bonds?
Everybody.
Who?
Really?
No, neither these guys cursed.
Really?
Really, I'm already. I didn't even realize that either.
He's more competitive.
Low key, Tom.
New guy.
Low key.
Who's more likely to email you at 2 in the morning?
Five in the morning to come.
I text you late, but not email.
That's Tom.
Who's more likely to yell at you in the morning and then take you out for lunch in the afternoon?
Who's fire?
more people.
Tom.
Look at Jen.
Who's more of a numbers guy?
Oh, well, Tom.
This is a split.
Damn.
That was very confusing.
Most likely to bail you out of jail.
From experience, people.
Look at Chad.
He's more likely to talk your ear off for it.
Oh, there you can pause right there.
That was actually really fun.
That was actually really fun about this is you got to kind of reflect her in yourself and just laugh.
Yeah.
You have to.
If you lose your ability.
By the way,
you lose that.
But listen,
fire somebody.
Here's what you have to realize.
One day Mario's like Pat,
I set a meeting with Tom.
Tom was telling me how to fire somebody.
We're in Dallas.
I said, what did Tom say?
He says, dude,
Tom is ice cold.
The way he fires people.
How was it?
He says,
this is now working out.
Today's your last day.
Thank you for your house.
That's it.
It's like money ball.
Hey, listen,
you've been traded.
Well, let me tell you something,
Tom.
You've done a good job of rubbing off on Mario.
That guy's ice cold.
So then Mario,
Mario tried to fire me yesterday.
Mario goes in and Mari's like,
this is not working out.
Today's your last day.
You need to pack your stuff.
Wow.
And I said, how was it?
He says,
at first I was so nervous.
That's Tom.
So you remember that movie with George Clooney
who goes and he's always firing people
and is teaching this girl how to fire?
You ever seen that movie?
Anyways, that was a scene.
That was Tom.
Tom teaching Mario how to fire people.
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Trump's approval rating plummets to new low, ahead of critical midterms, more work to do.
This is a Fox News story in Tom.
I'm going to come to you first.
Then, John, I'm coming to you afterwards.
Trump's approval rating has plummeted to a record low for second term.
Typhor is the lowest ever as commander-in-chief, according to a new poll.
Only 33% of surveyed in New Reuters poll, approve of Trump's job's performance down from 35% last week, while 64% disapproved.
Trump previously had 33% in December of 2017.
There's first term low.
Meanwhile, 80% of respondents said they expect the war in Iran will go on for an extended period of time.
The war began in February and was explained to Americans as a mission to wipe out Iran's nuclear weapons program.
Iranian attempts to assert dominance over the Strait of Hormuz has complicated matters.
One fifth of world's oil traverses the strait and the effect are felt at the Trump since the war began.
National Gas prices average has jumped from.
under $3 to over $4, according to AAA data.
The numbers land weeks ahead of critical midterm elections,
with Republicans openly acknowledging there's more work to do, Tom.
So there's a couple of things going on here.
And number one, Americans are very fatigued about the war, very fatigued.
There was a period of, okay, I hope this is over quick, just like Venezuela.
Then there was this period of, whoa, what are we getting into?
And then we went back and forth, where the market would move on one side.
sentence and move the other way in another sentence. Then what happened is it took three days of
sentences to move the market because the market suddenly was becoming resilient and almost
insulated to what was going on. And guess what? That had a waterfall effect on the economy.
And when people talk about the economy, when a citizen talks about the economy, here's what they mean.
They mean, they usually mean fuel and groceries. They'll attribute cost of fuel and groceries
to the whole economy.
So citizens really meaning my economy.
And the government and the president's approval rating is handcuffed to economy more than any other thing.
Outside of a spike issue.
A spike issue is 9-11.
Terrible, terrible, massive interruption or cataclysmic.
And so right now, people are still feeling the gas at the pump.
And they're also starting to feel, you know, some fatigue on the war and our,
are our prices ever going to abate?
And that is leading to strong economic headwinds on the president.
And the word we've been talking about for six months, and that was affordability.
And so that's where they are.
And right now, I'm going to teach you something.
You're going to think I'm talking drugs, but I'm not.
You know what the crack spread is?
The crack spread is...
We just did a whole marijuana.
Now you're doing crack, Tom.
No, if you Google it, the crack spread is the difference between a barrel of oil
and the cost of refining it.
The crack spread has hit $100.
So transportation and refining costs
on top of the barrel of oil
are now over 100.
It wasn't this way early because refineries
are running at capacity
because the refineries,
there's two refineries.
Remember Valero refinery that was shut down in California?
It's making a difference.
That's 5% of the U.S. refining cost.
And so it's all of this.
Crack spread at 100.
gas doesn't look like it's coming down under the price it is right now,
which is frustrating motorists.
They see that as their economy.
Their economy is their perception of the president,
and the president's approval rating is down.
Take a look at this chart.
The chart is showing it going down.
It's because once the war started enduring, it didn't go back.
And I'm only looking at the war itself from January,
and you see the big drop right there before April.
See that, Pat?
Yep, of course.
Wonk right over April.
That was in March when it was like, okay, I thought this was supposed to be quick.
In-out, Maduro goes to jail.
I thought we were doing something similar.
When we went in and destroyed, quote, destroyed the nuclear places in Iran.
In-out, hey, we destroyed stuff.
All of a sudden this is extending, and it's having a really bad impact on the president's approval rating.
Yeah, and remember, too, Trump was the guy who was supposed to alleviate the fatigue that Americans were feeling about these wars in the Middle East.
I mean, this is the guy who 10 years ago got up on the debate stage.
and told Jeb Bush that the Iraq war was a big fat mistake,
and Republican voters didn't know that you were allowed to say that.
Like in the 2000s, your level of commitment to the Republican cause
was demonstrated by your vocal support for these wars in the Middle East.
And so Trump gets up there and is supposed to be a repudiation of this.
And so now, like you're saying, you know, we get back in,
Americans are like, okay, we can tacitly accept this,
but it keeps going on and on.
And since it began, his approval rating hasn't cracked 40 again.
You know, it was up there in a while for the 40s,
but it was still trending down, still not bad for a,
president in this stage in his term. But really what started to actually decrease it was when
Americans started seeing for the first time those videos of the mass deportations. And now I was looking
at the polling too and it shows that how Americans are viewing the immigration issue has shifted from
being like way, way, way, way in support of how Republicans want to handle it versus Democrats,
something like a 40 point difference. Now it's basically neck and neck, which tells me that,
you know, Americans are starting to see like what that actually looks like and they're kind
of souring on it. Like it's now 50-50 in terms of how they would like to see Democrats versus
Republicans handle the immigration issue. And so Trump, you know, insofar as he's able to execute on
that, that's just going to, like, hurt him more as people are seeing what they're paying for at the
pump. They're seeing more videos of, like, people just getting deported. Like, this is not going to
look good for him. You're very learned on this. I was reading yesterday that right now, the only
issue that Republicans have a clear lead on is crime. All of the other traditional Republican
issues on economy and the border and everything are suddenly slacking as America loses
confidence over the summer.
And here's my question. We have what, two years left until, you know, the presidential
election in November. But is there enough time to turn this around? Because affordability,
I mean, think about it. Because if affordability is going to stay the same, this war is going
to stay the same, the mass deportation of all these illegals, which is, it's helping with
this freaking affordability because these people are living places. They're getting paid. We're
giving them all this freaking money. Yeah. It's because my thing is, it's life after Trump.
Yeah. As much as Gavin and all these people keep going on, Trump and Trump,
he's going to be gone and he's going to be out
and I think whoever's going to be attached to him
as a Republican nominee
this is just going to bleed to them and then we keep
hearing these socialists rise their attitude
is going to be like look at these the Republicans
forever wars you can't afford anything
vote for us we're going to give you everything for free
and that's what I'm worried about because
I don't see you see it this war
is not going to stop this is the war that everybody
said there's going to be that even Charlie Kirk
God rest of soul he said the last thing
we want is to get into a war it's going to
be a quagmire in Iran
And look where we are right now.
There's no end in sight.
But you're right.
And it's not about the presidential election, which is in two years.
We are exactly two and a half months to midterms.
Exactly.
75 days, midterms.
So that's a very good question to ask.
And we can have that conversation.
But Tom, a couple of things to be looking at is on the market,
the SMP dropped from 78 to 7600, not a big number.
Let's just say it's at 76.50.
And then you saw Besson said they're going to double down the
amount of long-term treasury, the 10-year and 30 years that they're going to buy from
whatever $2 to $4 billion starting September to November.
And with the hopes of that maybe measuring off and, you know, getting the economy to be a
little bit more stable, are you seeing that that behavior got the market to react positively
or the market's like, yeah, that's not going to make a difference?
The market went out one night, had some beers over Monday night football, and the next
morning it slid right back. In other words, I'm joking a little bit, but I'm not.
The market had a little celebratory moment when Bessent was basically reducing supply of bonds,
if you want to think of it that way, to prop up price.
And what happened is the market came back a day later and combination, I think PPI came out,
producer price index, and they shook off the impact by Besson and it moved.
And everybody was like, whoa, Besson was supposed to be.
See, that's the bigger problem.
If the economy goes in that direction and they're paying a price with, because right now the economy is mainly hurting who's the economy mainly hurting?
Low and middle income, the average guy, which, by the way, say that again?
Caseh.
Right.
If it hurts them, you need those guys from midterms, vote, you're going to fill it.
And so the last thing you want, if I'm Trump, the last thing you want is the following.
You do not want to go into your last two years with the midterms of your candidate losing.
because then that means in 2028,
the tweet and the endorsement of MAGA may not mean a lot.
So then people will start eating their own.
They'll start attacking their own.
And so, you know, they'll start distancing.
Well, you know, I think the president went a little bit too far.
You know, I do like some of the stuff that he did,
but I don't support the way he handled Iran.
And then legacy is hitting.
And then you're going to see Trump attacking every one of those candidates,
even though he's not going to be involved.
I don't know if that makes sense or not.
Yeah, 100%.
So if JD decides to take that position, it's like,
man, now the left is going to be like, awesome.
We have civil war.
The president went after Pence, and now the president's going after JD.
If he went after Pence, you don't think he's going to, who is Pence today?
So you have to realize JD has to play a very, he has to maneuver in a very interesting way.
And the president has to make sure he maintains his power, his ward, his endorsement.
And that's what he's dealing with.
And last but not least, this is it for him.
This is a legacy.
You got two years left on your contract.
That's it.
And then after that, you're an ex-president.
All the other stuff is, you know, you're just going and you're doing speaking,
you're doing different kind of things.
But he's got two years to clean this up.
Does he have enough time or not?
We will see if the war continues, that is going to be a massive, massive conversation
that they're going to be having.
You know what question I would want to ask the president if I sat down with him?
You know what I want to ask him right now?
Is say before the war starts, and there's a rule.
of conversations, would you have approved killing, you know, Khomeini? Were you for that? Or was
that Israel? Was it you that wanted to kill everybody, the family, the wife, everybody?
What the answer to that question leads to his sequence and being at a whack. I don't know if that makes sense.
I get it.
If you're in the room and the generals tell you, Tom, hey, we got it. It's going to be like Venice
Trust us. It's going to be good. And then you're having a call with Israel. And then Israel goes and takes out, Khomeini. If you do, you're prolonging the war. Because now you're forcing everybody to be fully committed. I want to know if that was his decision or if that was Bebe's decision. And that was after, right? But that decision. The answer to that question is so important on many levels. It is so important on so many levels. Because
You know, it says they killed them.
He kept saying, they killed them, they killed them.
Not we killed them, they killed them.
So if that happened, then that needs to be explained to the market.
Because maybe the, like when you do that right now, you're so in too deep that if you don't do anything to Iran now,
America is going to get hit 5, 10, 15, 20, 30.
It's going to happen.
It's just a delayed response to you killing the guy's father, wife, and mother, whatever.
You killed everybody in his life.
And nobody even knows if the guy's alive or not,
if Pazashkian is meeting with him in an underground place
that you can't even open up and you're hearing somebody
and it's so dark, it's like, yeah, I met him.
Did you really?
Is the guy really alive?
What happened?
So you've created so much vengeance that they have.
You're in too deep.
So I don't think he was the guy that called the shots
at killing Chaminé.
I don't think so.
I think he likes to kill number twos and threes.
He killed Gassam Soleimani.
I think he knows not to kill number ones.
I think whoever killed number one
is somebody that wants it to be longer
because they wanted to be done
and you kind of got me into it.
It's like, dude, why did you kill him?
You ever seen the movie as a town?
I don't know if it's town
where one guy kills the guys
like, what did you do that for?
Now we are all going.
The plan wasn't, I don't know if it was done.
They're robbing a bank.
Yeah, this is the one incredible movie.
Well, heat, when they kill the guy that's...
You're talking about the town.
Like, dude, I can even go to Godfather.
That scene, he's in the car.
You killed the kids.
I'm not blowing up the kid.
There's kids in the car.
Oh, Scarface.
Scarface.
Yeah, I'm not doing that.
It's like, no, we have to, no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not doing it to the kid.
And then that's when it's like, you crossed, you crossed the line.
So even somebody like me that was, you know, more knowing what IRGC is about that the world
would be a better place without him, even I said a week before, I think killing the prime
minister, it's a permanent war.
If you kill the prime minister, Supreme leader.
If you kill the Supreme Leader, you have to take out the entire regime.
I agree.
And you better be confident that you can deliver.
Yep.
So to me, it's a little bit of a, you know, it's a little bit of a, you know, tough situation he's in himself.
You take out Soleimani, you can get the number one to talk.
That's the point.
Exactly.
So you don't.
Well, that didn't really work out like that one.
Well, for that.
I had told it wasn't talking after you took out Soleimani.
Well, when you made, but that outcome then wasn't.
wasn't nuclear. It was a very different thing you're doing.
The outcome there at the Rassam Soleimani was a very different thing.
Now it's such a binary solution. There is no mid memorandum of understanding.
You have two choices right now. Either they're going to look at you like this and here's how the
negotiation goes. Okay. Yeah. Memorum understanding. Okay. We control the hormones. You do this
and we will not do anything with nuclear. Okay. Okay. All right. He's out.
All right, guys, let's go. Let's go get to work.
And then let's go attack.
And a week of president's going to come.
And then there's going to be an attack on U.S. or military bases.
You think these fanatical people are just about money?
They're not about money.
When you do business with people that are about money, what's honest about it?
It's transactional.
You're going to make money?
I'm going to make money.
They're going to make money.
Let's move on.
This is not just about money.
This is fanatical, vengeance, revenge.
It's a very different ideology that these guys have.
Adam. What I want to do is compare and contrast Trump's approach to Obama's approach,
whether it's Iran or whether it's even approval ratings right now.
Because what Obama was doing, you could argue that Trump did the exact opposite.
Obama was doing the, we're so sorry for being America.
Let's all be friends. Let's all be nice.
And the fanaticals were like, yeah, we're still going to kill you, buddy.
So Trump, I think, just recognized, like, you're not going to negotiate with these people.
We've been kicking the can down the road for 45 years.
I don't think Trump.
You think Trump called the shots to kill Chalcaminet?
I don't know.
I don't want to speculate on that.
I want you to speculate.
I want you to speculate.
Look, do I think that Trump is in charge?
Yes.
You think Trump called the shots?
I think Trump's in charge.
Do you think Trump called the shots to kill Chalmenei?
I think he ultimately made the decision.
He may have been influenced by people who didn't have his best interest at heart,
but I think he still made that call, yeah.
You think he made the call to Kilchamenei?
Ultimately, yeah.
See, I don't believe that.
There is no pattern showing that.
That's how he does business.
And going off of what you said, he always says...
He had already bombed Iran multiple times.
No, but think about this.
No, that's a different story.
You mean, and he makes a great point because you said one word.
You said we.
When Trump kills somebody, he goes, I killed him.
I killed what's his name?
You know what?
Maybe that's a conversation.
A bar.
I can see him having that conversation with you.
I don't think...
By the way, but just so you guys know,
Michael Cohen just interviewed Trump.
Because during the podcast, when I interviewed Michael Cohen,
He got emotional, and I said, I think the interview will happen.
And I shared that with a few people.
It was right before an event that we had.
Michael Cohen just sat down in front of Trump and interviewed him, like on an interview.
He called in.
Nobody ever thought this was going to happen.
And even Trump said it's unfair what they did to you.
Of course, what they did to me.
So meaning, I don't care if I asked the question or somebody else asked the question,
whoever's watching this, whoever's sitting down, I want to know who called the shots to kill Khamene,
because that changes everything from me.
I don't think he called the shots.
I'm not even going to speculate.
Can I get to my point about the approval ratings?
I actually think that Trump is more stable than Obama.
Let me explain.
Obama came in and do you know what is the highest approval rating?
83?
It was 70%.
Who hit 81 or 83?
I'm sorry, it was Bush after 9-11?
W. W the week after 9-11.
Obama got up to 69-70%.
Okay.
Do you know his lowest approval rating was in the mid-30s, 36, 37?
That plummeted 30-plus percent points.
Trump came in, he was a 45-percent guy, at best.
Trump never hit 50.
I'm talking on his best day.
So Trump is hovering around 40, whether you like him or not.
So now he's hovering in the mid-30s-ish, 34.
Trump is what he is.
We know what he is.
The reality is Trump is who,
he is, he does what he does,
take it or leave it.
Juxtaposing that with Obama, everyone
thought Obama was black Jesus,
and by the time he left office is like,
so what Obama do exactly?
He made health care more expensive,
and he made the White House gay.
Are you making it comparing him to
Obama? That's all that you can do.
Obama will never be in the discussion
as one of the greatest presidents of all time.
Well, according to who?
No, no, no. If you ask liberals, he's the goat.
No, no, no. You're talking about getting
stuff done. Obama, Trump runs circles around
Obama in Trump, Obama's not in the league of Trump as a leader.
It's not even close.
But that's your opinion.
There's a lot of people that are different.
No, no, Obama was a, Obama was a, Obama made us weaker in front of our people.
And Obama was too much of a conformist and people pleaser and he wanted everybody like, no, Obama.
He's so talented.
He could sell that story.
That's a different story, though.
Those are two different things.
Yeah, to me, I won't make the comparison of Trump to him.
I think the part that Trump,
Deep down, and I don't even know.
Trump wants people, there's an element of, my opinion,
there's an element of Trump of after him.
He wants people to know he was different.
His impact is permanent.
It's never going away.
That's a good thing and a bad thing.
Because you have to also know that eventually when your legacy comes and you move on,
he said something in an interview.
He says, you know, people forget all the stuff you did for them.
All these people I made their shows all, but you know what, that's how life is.
It's something like this about 18 months ago.
And that's good that he's getting in that phase of knowing everybody kind of moves on and they go to the next thing.
And that's a very hard thing to accept for a lot of people.
This is why a lot of athletes that end up their career getting a divorce immediately, like bodybuilders, athletes, you know, Brady, you know, Michael.
It's not easy.
It's very, very hard because you went from being a face of everything.
But I think he needs to, and I don't think this.
this is fully 5% chance of this happened.
And he needs to really realize that post him could be extremely chaotic if he doesn't hand it off the right way.
Oh, I fully agree.
Because I think he went here.
He's here.
So the only thing back from this is what?
Here.
And I think he needs to go here for it to goes here.
So I don't know.
We can go all the way here.
But if you're going to go all the way here, you better finish the job here.
You know what they say.
You never go full.
No, no, I don't know if I'm making sense.
Maybe I'm not doing a good job.
No, no, you are.
The pendulum swings is what you're saying.
But Obama side.
And he can control what the pendulum.
No, no, no, but hold on.
What I'm saying is the amount of influence he has in the Republican Party is not the same as what Obama had in the Democratic Party.
Maybe at one point he did.
But you don't think it's more than Obama?
Oh, it is way more.
Yeah, it is.
Not even close.
This guy's a worker, bro.
Well, his approval ratings within Maxx is 90% percent.
This guy is a worker.
This is an 80-year-old that will do.
elapsed by around 25-year-olds. This is an anomaly. This is a very unique case study that you're
looking at, but he needs to think about the future of America because the enemy is real.
And if you don't realize that the enemy is real, and you just say, well, it's your job.
You guys handle it. I think, you know, it's like when you're running the baton, what did it
call that race where you have to hand over the baton? Relay. And what happens if you drop the baton?
You lose the race. It's over. I think that handoff needs to be very delicate.
I hand off that Biden to Kamala, disaster.
Yeah, but Biden's not a leader.
Biden, nobody ever will look at Biden as a leader.
Trump's a leader.
His library's looking great today.
He raised $4 million for his library.
It's a different story.
There is no library.
So do we want to do a couple last stories before we wrap up?
Do you want to go to this arrest that happened, Vinnie?
This woman arrested for allegedly plotting New York State Capitol attack.
She looks very friendly.
I mean, just the regular American woman that when you see this,
if you guys want to play this clip here.
It's on the notes.
There you have.
It's on addendum page six if you want to go to it.
So FBI arrested woman Wednesday who, you have it?
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Breaking moments ago, the FBI says it disrupted a potential ISIS-inspired terror plot in New York.
The agency tells Fox they've arrested a 35-year-old Albany woman accused it plotting to bomb the state capital and kill lawmakers.
According to a criminal complaint, Jessica Bowie pledged allegiance to ISIS and allegedly planned to hide a bomb inside a door dash bag, hoping to strike.
while state senators were meeting.
Governor Kathy Hokel expected to speak next hour
where we could get more information
about all of this.
Can we see her picture of what she looks like?
Don't you have a video video?
Can you show that?
There's some photos of her.
There's some show.
Look at, look, can you got,
just please take a second, guys,
and look at what this moron.
I'm sorry, Jessica, Jessica,
and you have a photo of her.
Show her outside because.
Muslim lady, right?
Well, she's a flat, she's flat,
but she wasn't, look at this is,
this is and again
I've said this before
white liberal
this is not a trans this is not a man
no that's not a dude Pat that's a woman
she that's a girl from beginning to
yes okay I'm not I'm actually not
joking that's not a man she's actually
a girl no she's actually a girl
she freaking fled to Syria
that's right keep going
like and this is my point in the John
I know you want to say I can't wait to see
what you have to say this is the problem
with these white board
liberal women that have
nothing to do bro they have nothing
to do they're so bored out of their minds
there's no men there's no nothing because they hate us
they have to do they have to get on
causes BLM get in front
of ice do all this and to be a freaking
terrorist and but Connor go back
to what she was dressed up as at home
depot she's dressed up like this
at home depot buying bomb making
material excuse me where are the detonators
yeah you might as well dress up like
Dracula and go to a blood bank and say I like to make
a withdrawal you are the dumbest
person ever but this is showed you and look at
how dumb she is. She changed her name
to Aisha, which
you know, that's Muhammad the Prophet's nine-year-old
wife after he freaking, you know,
hooked up with her when she was six years old.
And she said, she texted stuff like this.
Praise be to Allah for September 11th.
This is a white woman from here.
When I migrate, I will poison these
infidels. Blowing Kaffir's brains out
is beautiful. I want to destroy as much
these are all quotes. I want to destroy
as much as the building as possible
and kill senators
when they're in meetings. And she wanted to go
to the White House and she was trying to, at some point, kill the President of the United States.
Do they know how she was recruited by ICE?
Probably some guy message her, but this is what I want people to understand.
This is real.
If you don't think that there are actual, she's, she's the worst.
Why would you start with Albany?
Seriously, Hockel has found a way to work with Mandani.
Okay.
Why would you start with Albany?
Why would you start with Albany?
Albany is actually helping.
Yeah, no, exactly.
So you tell me.
I think that proves.
Normal, rational thought.
I think that first.
She's a white lady who pledged allegiance to ICE.
She converted to Islam five years ago.
The fact that by itself, obviously, no connection to terrorism, but she did.
May of 2026, FBI investigators identified online accounts linked to Bowie expressing support
for terrorism.
She allegedly praised 9-11, like what Kenny just talked about.
She formed pledged allegiance to ISIS.
Around July 16, things moved from ideology towards operational planning, according to
complain Bowie began communicating over an encrypted platform with a confidential
FBI source whom she believed was an ISIS facilitator.
She allegedly initiated the request for help.
Complaints says she expressed a desire to conduct a major attack and sought assistance
learning about explosive.
The FBI source introduced her to additional confidential sources.
Bowie apparently believed these people could help her facilitate ISIS-inspired plans.
Her alleged target became the New York State Capitol,
and she allegedly wanted to leave America and go to ISIS-controlled territory.
By the way, when she did an interview with them, this is what one of the
Craig Tormone's special agent in charge of FBI's Albany office said,
make no mistake about it.
Ms. Poy alleged plot was serious. It was dangerous and it was foiled.
Now, this is what she told them.
Ms. Poy allegedly said, there is no helping me.
You guys know enough. I'm going to prison for the rest of my life.
Material support is up to 20 years in prison.
I already Googled it.
John, where are you at with this?
I really hope that these people stay this dumb because if they become more intelligent,
it can really get dangerous.
And no one remembers this, but there was a period in American history
in the late 1960s, early 1970s,
where we had something like three or five bombings
every day in this country being executed
by these leftist terrorist groups, like the weather underground.
And now you never hear about this stuff.
And in fact, a lot of the people who were coordinating this at the time
went on to go teach at prestigious university.
So instead of like their terrorists going to jail
like we had with J6, that terrorist attack or so they call it,
those people got like prestigious jobs at universities,
think tanks, things of this nature.
So this is kind of what we were talking about earlier.
Like whenever the left feels like its back is against the wall,
It gets pretty agitated, pretty scary with what these people are capable of.
So I hope that they stay this stupid because we've seen what it looks like when they're intelligent, better coordinated,
and it gets very violent very quickly.
It's actually a very good perspective.
I agree with you.
What was really crazy in California, and you're bringing it up, and it shows you how it was, when Patty Hurst was kidnapped,
they wanted to get money from her family's fortune.
Anybody know this story?
So Patty Hurst.
Yeah, Patty Hurst was kidnapped.
You know who was her lawyer?
F. Lee Bailey. Yep. Oh, wow.
And she was the granddaughter of like William Randolph Hearst.
And so she was converted.
She was convinced and converted to join the Symbionese Liberation Army, whatever that was.
And then they said, now we need money. We don't have any financiers.
So we're going to go knock over a bank.
And they all went into a bank wearing berets and no disguise.
There it is. Symbionese Liberation Army. I remembered it right.
And so they go in there to do that.
This is during the 70s.
This is during the 70s where you'd have a bomb and a mailbox blows up.
You know, the mailboxes at the side of the street.
You have a bomb and a mailbox blows up.
You had all these things going on.
And I think what's now is with online,
there's more of, take a look at what the FBI did.
How many of the FBI guys have to be out there?
And you know what they're using?
You don't want to hear about it.
Palantir.
Listening.
They're on encrypted platforms.
They're on Discord and they're looking for this stuff.
And this is where you see in the name of safety that it works.
And they find these things.
Hey, there's a person over here, a person over there.
The millions of millions and millions of calls going on,
somehow they filtered it, sniffed it out, jumped in, started tricking her.
Yeah, let's talk about sniffing.
So Eric Swalwell, the issue he has got illegal donations from suspected Chinese spy bombshell
memo shows.
So what's the story with Eric Swalvo, Vinny?
I know your followers.
happened there.
With Fang Fang?
Yeah, what's the recent story with her?
Is it Fang Fang or Bang Fang?
Out of ten.
Those jokes. Those were three or four?
All right.
So let me just, hold on, back.
Did I have it right?
Where is he?
Are you following this story with Swalwell?
Yeah, he went to an airport yesterday, and they took his phone and his laptop.
And they said, we're still investigating you.
This time, we want this for evidence on the sexual assault trial.
And he apparently stood there in an airport and had to surrender them, correct?
Yeah, well, first of all, he was allowing a suspected Chinese.
we make fun of her operative.
She got access to his political operation,
recommend interns.
Pat, she was recommending interns to get close to members of Congress.
Okay?
And then Congress should,
I don't know if you guys think,
Congress should have background checks for anybody,
anybody working in or around you,
especially if the time, you don't know,
they just hire interns and they just show up.
Come on.
Chang Lee is a nice kid from San Francisco.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, how many times we're going to see China
connected to people at the highest levels?
Like, we already know.
Think of what, look at the pattern, Tom.
Hunter Biden and his family dealings
with Chinese money.
China, they send the spy balloons over the country
for four years during Biden,
and they were like, no, don't shoot it down.
Let it go. Let it do reconnaissance.
Get to the edge of the water, and then they would shoot it down.
All this stuff that we found out of them,
buying land next to our freaking military bases,
especially Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana,
where I was stationed, which was a nuclear base.
Then you have Xi Jinping.
He shows up to San Francisco.
They kick all the homeless people out
because they want to make it look good
for a leader who is our enemy.
All in Suoel's backyard.
All in his backyard.
On top of all the intellectual policy property that they stole, China stealing our property,
fentanyl, all that stuff, and a little virus that came out of China called COVID.
At what point, like she was in there, she was using him.
They were probably, hey, with all the freaking blackmail stuff, who knows what she was doing?
He's obviously, we've seen him on camera with the girl and on the hotel bed and all that stuff.
Who knows what she had, what she was using against him, what access,
and what type of secret or whatever.
He was on the House Intelligence Committee.
It doesn't get more serious than that.
So this bothers me.
And again, this is China again at work.
I know Trump says, yeah, well, we have spies too that are over there.
They are way more infiltrated in our freaking government.
And again, Tom, COVID came out and there's still zero accountability.
I don't care where it came from at this point.
There may not be zero because what happened here?
Didn't they also search his home or something?
They searched his home on Sunday.
He wasn't home, and then they tracked him and went to the airport.
And then they found them there.
So I think there's some accountability coming to him, don't you think?
Well, Tom, until I see handcuffs, handcuffs and them going to jail,
just like all the perp works they did under the Trump administration,
from Roger Stone to everybody, I want to see a Democrat go to jail,
have any of them, meaning accountability for the actual crime that they did,
Not the bogus stuff that they did with Trump.
Show me somebody.
Who has gone to jail for a Democrat so far?
Who was that one Congressman Tom that had gold or Egyptian gold or?
Oh, Jerry Nadler?
No, no, no, no, no, no, Bob Mendez.
Bob Mendez from New Jersey?
That's my bad, Jerry.
But was he arrested?
One guy?
This guy?
Yeah, Bob Menend.
But did he get released?
And again, and John, we talk about this.
Did he go to jail?
Because they confiscated gold bars and stuff.
Besides, let's take the economy and the war and the proof rates.
Put that aside.
He currently lives at federal penitentiary Allenwood, Pennsylvania.
We wanted, listen, I voted for illegals to get kicked out.
I wanted no new wars.
I wanted cheaper gas.
I wanted all that.
And I wanted accountability.
We are now down to two years.
Come me, okay, he got indicted.
The shells were waiting.
Is anybody going to go to jail?
Is anybody going to go to a prison?
Do you think?
Probably not in this administration, no.
It's frustrating.
I want something.
We want, like, you got to give it to us.
We voted for it.
We were getting, I was in California.
Why do you see probably not in this administration?
I mean, we've tried to do stuff and, like, judges will throw it out or they'll find
technicalities.
It's tough to use existing law to go after these people.
And they're very talented at maneuvering to exploit the system.
And so I'm with you.
Like, I would like to see justice, but unfortunately, it's just not being delivered.
Because when they're in power, they can do it.
it's so much easier. Like with the J6 investigation, they can basically push a button and have the
largest DOJ investigation in history because existing law can be manipulated such that, you know,
people walking through the Capitol are equivalent to like domestic terrorists or something.
And so they're just far better at playing the game. They've got the pieces where they need to be.
And so when we're in power, it's like we're trying to cold start an engine that was never meant to run for us.
So the fact that they have, so like right now, the DOJ, FBI, everybody wants to go after these people
and actually throw the book at them, all these Biden appointed or, or,
you know, Obama appointed judges are in there and they just go, no, I think that it could be done,
but we need to work with a longer timeline. And we're not going to have that longer timeline if we
don't solve the baseline issues like you're talking about with gas prices affordability.
Because, you know, a lot of times people do favors politically for the base. And I think there's
a good story to be told actually with maybe like Victor Orban's Hungary, where it's like,
this is a guy who got in there and he was supposed to be, you know, the real socially conservative.
And so he's doing a lot of favors for maybe the more socially conservative people in Hungary,
but he was failing to maintain like a basic economic standard. And so the voters
punished him for that. And you're going to see a similar thing in America if we don't correct
course where it's like, yeah, you know, we've got the funny tweets, we've got the edits. We could maybe
even, if we have the time, give you mass arrests of corrupt politicians, but the voters aren't going
to reward that because it's like, dude, honestly, like, I maybe appreciate that. I'm a conservative
guy, but if I'm still paying $4 at the pump, buy, I'm going to go vote for a Democrat. And you
can't blame them for doing that. You know, it's like you say, people experience the economy through
grocery prices and gas prices. And no matter what, they're going to assume the man in the White House is
responsible for both of those things, even if inflation.
is better. We're still dealing with the hangover from the Biden-era inflation. Doesn't matter.
Explain that to the average voter. Do you think they care? Probably not. Let me ask you a question, John.
What is your position with, you know, youth influencers in the political space, the Hassan Pikers, the
Fentes, the Sisson, and I would also put, there's one other guy to put in that camp as well.
There's a, what is the other one I'm missing out? There's one other name. But anyways,
what do you think about what's going on with the younger influencers, both on the left and the right?
I think that the left does a better job at it than the right does.
I think the left is very much trying to drag their party in a productive political direction.
You see like Hassan Piker showing face at these events trying to be something of a kingmaker.
The right is much more selfish.
We try to do this in a way that's capturing market share, competing with each other.
It's become, I'll put it this way.
We used to talk a lot about ideas and having discourse, open dialogue.
In the past couple of years, everything has become much more about, like, well, who are you getting paid by?
Who's paying you to say that, like casting tar on people such that their integrity is called
into question. And it's like, if I don't think you have integrity, well, then there's nothing
for us to talk about because I don't believe that you believe anything you're saying. And so it's
caused that kind of like civil war dynamic that the left is loving, which is why when we saw like
the first shots of this a year or so ago, already there were articles in the Washington Post, the Atlantic,
New York Times telling everybody there's a civil war. Don't get too sad because Trump is president.
There's a civil war. This is all going to be divided and it's not going to be successful. It's
not going to have longevity. So the left loves this. They're far better at playing the political
game than people on the right, especially their influence. How much do you think that
the right has suffered because someone like Charlie Kirk is no longer here.
I literally could not think of a worse thing to happen.
He was the second most important figure for conservatives aside from Trump himself.
I mean, nobody could reach people, let alone young people the way Charlie Kirk could,
which is why, I mean, everyone talks about who stood to benefit the most.
The left probably stood to benefit the most, which is why millions of them celebrated it.
I mean, normal Americans who are maybe apolitical saw their liberal friends and coworkers and relatives celebrate this,
and they're like, I just saw this guy debating people on Instagram.
Why are you celebrating his death?
it's almost like they understood how important he was more than a lot of conservatives.
Like, I remember when I was, you know, 18, 19, I was like,
Charlie Kirk says this and I think that this is the right way.
I was trying to, like, outflank him from the right.
Now I realize how important this guy was.
You know, it's not always about being the most right guy in the room.
It's about building coalitions working.
How do we move the ball down the field?
And clearly nobody could do that like Charlie Kirk.
Who is seeing doing that right now?
Nobody.
Who's building coalition right now?
I think Trump and Vance are trying to hold something together,
but it's extremely difficult because, you know,
Charlie was the guy who could reward people for playing the game.
Hey, you play the ball, you do what you're supposed to do.
You can come to my events.
You can speak.
We'll give you rewards for good behavior.
Now, absent that incentive structure, it's a knife fight.
Everyone just wants it.
It's about me.
It's about me.
You're lying.
You're lying.
And everyone goes viral casting arrows at each other.
So it's extremely unproductive.
Interesting.
All right.
And also, you know, I mean, we've said it before.
We'll say it again, the famous quote, when you're young, if you're not a liberal, you have no heart.
So there's a lot of young people that are liberal.
I was liberal growing up.
and then you have to realize that truth and facts are not on your side.
But what Charlie did not only just reward the influencers,
he would show up to your college campus.
He would show up.
You would have events.
So he would put himself out there.
What the left is better at doing is organizing and showing up.
So, I mean, the famous Thomas Soul story, he's like,
I was a Marxist.
Why?
Because the Marxist would come on campus and teach me.
And then eventually, you know, facts.
showed up and he ended up becoming obviously an economic conservative and one of the greatest
thinkers of our life. I think after Charlie, the right needs to sort of take a step back and say
Trump's not going to be here forever. We can't all just wait for Trump to come to our town,
to do a rally. Who's going to show up in your area, in your town, in your college, and step up
and teach and help young people understand if you go too far left, everything's over in this country.
Yeah. Okay. All right. Great conversations today. John Doyle, he has a,
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