PBD Podcast - El Mencho Killing IGNITES Narco War & Newsom's 960 SAT Speech | PBD #744

Episode Date: February 23, 2026

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana break down cartel riots following El Mencho’s killing, Gavin Newsom’s controversial “960 SAT” speech, Iran’s potential coll...apse, Trump’s tariff clash with SCOTUS, Mamdani’s snow photo-ID policy, and Mar-a-Lago shooting updates.------👞 THE NEW FLB 1'S: https://bit.ly/4mXV9gdⓂ️ MINNECT WITH JOHN KIRIAKOU: https://bit.ly/46HCY9xⓂ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso ⁠⁠⁠⁠Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right. Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm supposed to take sweet bit of dirty. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signs, right here. You are a one of one?
Starting point is 00:00:18 My son's right. I don't think I've ever said this before. All right, another one of those weekends where a lot of things happen. If you were in Mexico on vacation, we're being told, Buckled down, be safe, get out if you can. We've all seen the videos. You've probably seen the videos. Absolute atrocities of what's going on in Mexico.
Starting point is 00:00:42 And these are places we went to. Resorts we've stayed out, probably been to Mexico 50 times the last 25 years. We have some incredible memories. But every time he'd go, he'd say, hey, just be careful what could happen. And this whole El Mancho story of what's going on with him, the guy was a former cop is what he was. The guy that they killed, who was the least. leader of a C.J.NG. El Mancho. Jal. Jalisco. He was a local police officer. His story
Starting point is 00:01:10 will go through. He got arrested in the U.S. before. They send him back. We've known who he is. You know, they split off from the cartel. And then they did what they did. But anyways, there's a lot to cover there. And Tom had a very unique angle this morning. I want Steele's thunder. I want you to hear it from him because he had a very good point on how America can, the folks who are concerned, how this applies to what could happen to Iran any minute now. State of the Union is when. Tomorrow night is when the State of the Union is.
Starting point is 00:01:42 We're going to be doing a live event here ourselves and we'll be reacting to the State of the Union. What time is it at 9 o'clock, Rob? Is it 8 or 9 o'clock? 9 p.m. Eastern. 9 p.m. Eastern. The minute, the later they get it, I don't know why they can't do that midnight.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Like, why can't you do the State of the Union at midnight? With cigars. You know what I'm saying? With cigars. With cigars. Vinny will light those cigars up one by one by one. And we have to talk about Iran. What would be wild is can you imagine the president has given the state of union speech?
Starting point is 00:02:13 And there's Nancy Pelosi somewhere in her house ripping papers apart. And all of a sudden the attack to Iran happens simultaneously. We know who's going to be there. You know who we invited? The U.S. national, the hockey team that just won. I love that. I heard that call. What an incredible video.
Starting point is 00:02:28 We got to turn that guy into a hero. When you win that way, it's a day. So it's going to be a lot going on there. DeTereuf ruling, a lot coming out. The president, you know he's upset when he's sending tweets out on truth social with lowercase. He doesn't like lowercase. But he's the opposite. You know how they say the uppercase is screaming?
Starting point is 00:02:45 To him, the lower case is screaming. You know, it's different for different people. We'll show that. And John Kiroki, who was a former CIA agent, he's the guy that came out and talked about waterboarding, being a real thing, got arrested, got in trouble. He said some things that he thinks is going on with Iran. By the way, CIA, he's also. on Menect. His Menect is blown up right now with a bunch of people asking him questions. You guys can go Meneck, John. He's got some thoughts on what's going on with Iran. And then for the folks that
Starting point is 00:03:12 say, you know, you need an ID to vote is too much. Too much stuff to do. Can you imagine like people got to get serious about the stuff? What's more important? Voting or shoveling snow? Of course it's shoveling snow in New York and you need more IDs for that. You know, and there's this Lady Adam was talking about this morning, I think her name is Liz or something, who's in New York, going around. She went there 8 a day and they got to come back at 8 p.m. She says, I got a shovel. He says, this is not approved. You need two IDs. I got to blow what do you call it, you know, to be able to snowblower. Snowblower. No, no, no, it's not approved. It's not approved, you know, because Mamdani in New York, they got certain rules and regulations you got to follow. And, you know, he went to a certain
Starting point is 00:03:56 mosque. Maybe Vinny will show you the clip of what happened there. Marlago shooting that took place. Role, got killed. There are some people that are speculating what the guy's background is. J.P. Morgan admits it shuttered Trump's accounts following January 6th Capitol Right. If that is the case, it is going to be nasty if they did that. And now that they're admitting to it, Trump calls on Netflix to fire board member Susan, Susan Rice, or pay the consequences. And she flipped and she threatens Trump supporters. Revenge is best served cold. What does that? that mean? Imagine when these guys get back in office what they're planning on doing. J.D. or Marco, a lot of people are talking about who it's going to be. Have we ran a poll here yet,
Starting point is 00:04:41 Rob, on who the audience would rather have? I don't know if we have or not. You just start the poll right now and let a rip. And folks, we're curious. If it was one or the two, who would you vote for? J.D., put Marco, put other. Three options. J.D., Marco, other. And let's see how that goes. Trump raises global tariffs to 15%. Rand Paul, I got a clear. I got a of him predicting that this was going to take place, and he called it in defense of our republic. Kevin O'Leary says Supreme Court caused a nightmare with the tariff decision. We'll cover that.
Starting point is 00:05:13 And then L.A. Mayor called out by reporter on live TV. California is having a rough time. This guy named Gavin Newsom, who's the governor, is trying to have the most important job in the world to an audience. He was trying to relate to this African-American audience and talking about how dumb he is. know what you're trying to say like to relate to so extremely some people called it extremely
Starting point is 00:05:38 racist he called it noble or maybe like you know talking about his SAT score it's officially public and then we got a few other things that we got to cover uh the guy who won beautifully done what else we got here i think i got all this stuff right even cash patel was there oh my girl is back folks i tell my wife all the time if there is a woman you have to worry about it's not It's not Scarlet. It's not Jada Pinkett. It's Kim Porter. I mean, this is like, listen. So hot. Can you imagine how dirty she'll talk to you?
Starting point is 00:06:13 Just think about it, okay, how she would be. But this lady that's wonderful, you got out of my shot, honestly, I'm not even lying to you. I miss you. She does it for you? I miss you. You've been gone too long. What man doesn't like a woman that just wants to argue 24-7
Starting point is 00:06:30 and fight you and make your life a life a life living Cal. What kind of a man doesn't want that? Katie. This is a dream, California. This is a dream. By the way, for content purposes, I would love for her to become the governor of California, just for content purposes. Rob, we would every day come here and do a podcast prep. 80% would be by Katie Porter. Forgive me for calling you, Kim. It's Katie Porter. She's a legend. She's a sweetheart. She's amazing. And she's mine. I mean, listen, a hall pass for this all day, baby. All right. Let's continue.
Starting point is 00:07:02 With that being said, guys, let me tell you what's so awesome with what's going on. Okay? That's to be a real big. This week, for the last seven or eight days, we've been at the magic show in Las Vegas and we're currently at Italy at the Maikam show, the Milan show, the show that everybody shows up, Louis Vuitton, Chanel, Hermes, everybody. And you know who was there this year? Future Looks Bright Shoes.
Starting point is 00:07:28 There. We sent Pete Leon, Micheli. Went over there, having a great time. Go ahead and give him an update on what's going on with these FLB shoes in Vegas at the magic show as well as Mikeham. Go ahead, Rob. Okay, by the way, you know what I'm wearing today? Clean. Again, let me say this to you guys.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I'm wearing my brown ones, okay? Future looks bright. Vinny's wearing his black ones. Okay. From September 9th, when I tell you from September 9 until today, I've only worn these shoes except for five days, that's all I wear. Five days, okay? And I love them. They're so comfortable.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Every day, this is all I wear. For some of you guys that are asking questions about shoes, we haven't done a CTA for a couple weeks, because it sells out every time we do them, okay? So if you haven't picked one up for yourself yet, go to the site, take a look at the shoe, compared with all the other shoes, the Berlutis, the Fergamos, the Zenos, the Gucci's.
Starting point is 00:08:54 If you want a shoe that has the same, you know, the foam technology in the bottom, like the enclaught or the Hokas and then the look of a zenia with the leather, genuine leather from Tuscany, Italy, and you want to combine the two together for a reasonable price
Starting point is 00:09:11 while you can sit in a border and put up your shoe on your knee and it says future looks bright and get the deal done. If you're that kind of a person, go to vatimurch.com, place your order for the FLB1s. We're excited about.
Starting point is 00:09:24 By the way, whatever you do, do it fast because sizes go. I'll get messages. Pat, 11s ran out because that's what happened. When we get the orders, it's 48 for one size, 82 for one size, 111 for one size, and they go fairly quick. If you're like me, buy every color.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Navy, blue, black, brown, and white, enjoy them. Can I give a quick plug? Yes, go ahead. So you gave us a pair very kindly, Vinie Show them up, of the black FLBs. You might recall a couple years ago you bought me these faragamo. Yes. I'm wearing them today because, you know, with blue you wear the whites. When I, this is genuine to hand a guy.
Starting point is 00:10:00 God, these are uncomfortable as hell. But out of respect and because I love the shoe, I wear them. I haven't got the white FLBs yet. It's night and day. This versus FOBs. I'm like, uh, hurting versus the black FLBs. You know, I like wearing the black suit? Incredible.
Starting point is 00:10:18 I love it. I had a guy Nass Daly in the office, massive, massive influencer. He's like, everyone has these FLBs. I go, what do you got? He goes, I got Zenos. And the FLBs looked similar to the Zenas, the black pair. And I go, how much you do job? He goes, yeah, these are like $1,500 shoes.
Starting point is 00:10:34 I said, you spend $1,500 on these shoes. I go, bro, save that money. FLB, it up. There you go. I love it. I love it. I love it. And by the way, if you were, do you already know?
Starting point is 00:10:45 Because you message me and saying, I've never had anything this comfortable before. Okay. All right. Let's get right into it. First story, okay? First story that we want to get into is what's going on in Mexico. We're mining our own business. All of a sudden, I'm getting bombarded with the,
Starting point is 00:11:00 Literally, I mean, messages, Pat, look what's going on in Mexico. Let's what's going on in Mexico. What is this? Just take a look at these videos. Take a look at this. Take a look at that. So apparently, in Mexico, let me go to the story to read so it'll take us right into it. Rob, what page is the Mexico story?
Starting point is 00:11:18 26 and 27. Page 26 and 27. Mexico's most wanted drug dealer, El Mancho, killed in military operation as violent clashes erupt across the country. Rob, is this the CNN clip or the ABC clip? ABC. Okay, go for it. Mexico's most powerful drug kingpin was killed during a military operation.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Mexican officials say criminal groups burn cars and trucks to block roads across the country. The State Department is warning Americans to shelter in place. ABC's Melissa Donne is near the border tonight. Explosions erupting across Puerto Vallata tonight. Black smoke seen rising
Starting point is 00:11:57 over the resort city on Mexico's Pacific coast. Mexico's military forces launching a daring operation to capture cartel leader Rubin N, known as El Mancho. Multiple cars on fire in the streets. Mexican officials say during their operation, military personnel were attacked. Several cartel members were killed. People running out of airports, of fire everywhere.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Maybe show that. Just think about, guys, many of you have been to this airport before. I've been to this airport. I don't know how many times, but if you have it, just play the clip. Yeah, this is regular people. Even security's running. You know it's bad when securities run it. Do you have some of the stuff outside where it's all on fire?
Starting point is 00:12:48 The entire city's on fire. You know, yeah, this is the one, Costco. Check this out, folks. Ladies start speaking in Spanish. There's even a recording of the... him on a call. Oh, yeah. Okay, so things are nasty. A few things many before I come to you. I'll come to you first and then Tom. I'm going to come to you as well on on this. El Mancho, his name is Nemesio Oseguara Servantes. He used to be a local cop himself. He got arrested in the States, in America, I believe in
Starting point is 00:13:21 the 90s, if I'm not mistaken, for drug charges later deported to Mexico, born in Michoacan. We have a lot of friends from Michoacan, but he was born in Michoacan. He's a leader of Halisco's new generation cartel, C.J.N.G. They rose in dominance in early 2000s when they broke away from the Mexican Sinaloa cartel. So they were part of it. U.S. had a $10 million reward bounty for somebody that catches them. I think Mexico had a multimillion dollar bounty on catching them. And then they were known for the synthetic drugs like fentanyl and methamphetamine that they were selling, obviously, a very profitable situation that they have going on there. And then all of a sudden he gets killed. This is the phone call, Rob. Is this the phone call that you have? There's a phone call that takes place. By the way, for those of you that speak Spanish,
Starting point is 00:14:11 I just want you to know he's cursing nonstop. So brace for impact. He's going to drop every single F bomb in the world you can think about. But this is him calling, having a conversation, Rob. If I'm not mistaken, with cops, saying what the hell are you guys doing? Go ahead, Rob. Delta one. Hey, can't have.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Look, my hush, my hush, my hush, man. I'm too much. Relocha your puttah, people to the verga. I'm telling the police to back off. You know, if you're going to part of your mother's day, all your ball of perr, I've got to identify, I've got to get us. To relax, way.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Don't you know who I am? Don't mess with me, bro. Sir. No, no, no, no, no, no. You got me, sir. I'll turn the police, fall back. I got us on the police. I got your location.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Wow. Wow Oh my god, why they're gonna be Three to work with us Oh, yeah Revere me to all the kids of your putt am Because all around and they're all right Oh my God
Starting point is 00:15:19 You're the brides Yes sir No, sir No, sir No, no, sir Why'd say to the verga because here in the vergas There's been at 2.20 I've spilled blood out of my
Starting point is 00:15:31 Bill Blot at a moment of notice. You already know what's up. So, Vinnie, if you have an amissade, if you're to have an amigazzo, cabron, if you know, to ching to your mother, the verga. Oh, I just to the verga, that not understand, loco. This continues, by the way. This is a few minutes. You can pause right there, Rob, because we're learning Spanish and not the right word.
Starting point is 00:15:49 So, Vinnie, what's going on here? What are your thoughts? Because they typically talk about the important part is if Shinebomb, the president of Mexico, is in cahoots, with the cartel. That's what a lot of people want to know. Is this a narco state? Your thoughts? I mean, we just heard a phone call of the recently deceased head of this freaking cartel calling the head of their police department and saying, I give you guys money. I know where 30 of you live. He said, I'll kill your dogs. That means he will kill the wife, the kids. These people
Starting point is 00:16:24 are freaking relentless. I saw videos that were popping up on my ex-feed pat. I had to turn away because of the brutality. These guys, you want to talk about ISIS and Hamas and all that. Yeah, horrible as well. These guys aren't that far off. They had one guy taped to a tree, and they're like, in Spanish,
Starting point is 00:16:42 you're like, okay, you're ready? Are you recording? Blow torch. And blow torch and lift the guy on fighter, and they even had to shut the audio off because it's that bad. And it's kind of weird because now I'm tying in. Remember last week, Pat, or the week before?
Starting point is 00:16:52 El Paso shut down the airport because they said it was a balloon. I think it has something to do with these guys and flying drones around. But let's just just, just call it what it is. Like they designated, Trump designated them as terrorists. If the president of Mexico, Shimbledon, whatever her name is, she's scared of them and
Starting point is 00:17:09 cooperating with them. I think this was a, and mind you, this was them. They took him out with the assistance of us. We're not claiming that we did everything, but we did coordinate, I think, with logistics and stuff like that for location. And not our guys. No, not our guys. And by the way, the number two is going to step up.
Starting point is 00:17:27 But at the end of the day, I'm happy that they're starting. to take this serious. The border is just an open turnstile that Mexico with China as well, but Mexico mainly is bringing in guns, they're bringing in drugs, they're sex trafficking kids, and these are the guys. These are the guys. So when everybody, because you know, I guarantee you today you're going to hear on all these shows, all these leftists, they're going to be like, oh, we're starting a new war, we're going to go in, we're trying to install this and install this. Guys, they kill hundreds of thousands of Americans just with drugs alone. And I'll think about this. Americans are at Portoviata. My cousin,
Starting point is 00:18:00 Rumson, who was here last week, Pat, they were in Kabul a couple weeks ago for a month ago for the wedding. And I warned them, I go, bro, they're putting out threats towards Americans, be careful. We talked yesterday. He was like, oh, my God, I have friends that are there or are planning on going there. And it's just, it's a bad situation. And by the way, it's not going to get better. The number two guy has already started and made a video saying, what's up? Here we go. Tom. It's going to bit bad. Tom, by the way, Tom's perspective here is probably very important for everybody to consider because the next 48 hours, Anything could happen.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Go ahead, Tom. So for all of us that are taking a look at this, we could talk about Trump and the FTO designation and all that what went with it. We could talk about disruption to supply chain, tourism and all that. We could talk about all that. I think there's a lesson here. And the lesson here is if you cut the head off the dragon, you better be ready with plan B who's going to step in behind it and to manage it.
Starting point is 00:18:51 And when you take a look at Iran, that's what I think we need to be worried about. And perhaps that's why there's been this slow buildup of all the military. and they're trying to get around to the table. Because you look over here, we haven't seen the confirmed deaths yet. There were deaths. There were deaths of citizens. There are deaths. Almost certainly there's been deaths of tourists down there.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Oh, for sure. Certainly the shooting through there. We just don't have reliable media or anybody that's down there to cover it. But you cut the head off the dragon pat, you better be ready for the consequence. Look what happened. Saddam Hussein was found in a hole with lice and the beard. and he was just running for his life until they finally found him there.
Starting point is 00:19:32 And all the crazies swept in in Iraq. Now you see what's going on. This is a narco state. This is it. And by the way, 119. You know what that is, Pat? That's a number of days to the World Cup event in Halisco.
Starting point is 00:19:47 World Cup? That's right, Tom. Because it's you're right. Oh, no way. You're right. It's all America. Finals as in at the Jet. stadium, but it's, and I saw that. I saw the video. I kept asking myself, why are they showing
Starting point is 00:20:04 World Cup event in Halisco? Would you, would you want to play or hold an event? As an American, would you, as a president, you let Americans go? We're targets right now. Are you kidding me? They know that Americans are playing that game. Who is, which game would be in Halisco? Oh, man. Yeah, I'm good, bro. Oh, free tickets, front row. No, I'm good. Right now you have a power vacuum and you're going to have two things in a power. vacuum, Pat. A war among those who want to be number one, and then whoever steps up, he has to assert power. That is how it works in gangs. That's how it works in cartels. You're going to have two or three guys, Pat, that are fighting to be number one, even if there's a designated number two,
Starting point is 00:20:46 because there's an opportunity here. And there's been alliances with the cartels. Then you're going to find out he has to do something ruthless Kaiser Sose to establish his power. That's the way By the way, if this continues, the FIFA president, he is not a joke. He will cancel the games in Haleisco and move it to a different place in no time. This is horrible to the city. Imagine how many small business owners were relying on that game. Yeah, he will cancel and move it to a different place. Infantino.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Yeah, he will move it to a complete different place. He's the one that gave that award to the president having to do with peace. I don't know if you remember that. He gave some kind of an award, the FIFA Peace Award to the president of November 2025. Yeah, the FIFA Peace Prize that he gave. Yeah, and so I'm looking at it. It's going to be one of the 32 matchups, so it could be anybody. It could be anybody, a major Latin American power.
Starting point is 00:21:38 You know, it's most likely going to be Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, some of those that could play. Casual question, though? Because I just saw Rob, can you put that headline of the president, Shineblum, of Shineblum, whatever her name is from Mexico? For the president to say, using force against cartels would violate human rights. War on narco, not an option. It's clear to anybody that's paying attention that she's obviously connected with them. But my question is this, well, guys, here's the thing. Stand that. What is the difference with her saying that and what that cop was saying to Elmantio?
Starting point is 00:22:13 There's no difference. There's no difference. So, in fact, because I want to ask you this question. You get them off us. Yeah, I want to ask you guys this question. We get involved with wars all around the world, you know, maybe Iran, Iraq, you name it. These people are touching our freaking Texas southern border. Do you think that this calls for something, and I can care less to anybody else thinks, like this is going to have to get, like, this isn't going to stop.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Are you okay with surgical attacks, boots on the ground? You have to, guys, you have to get them out, ruin stem. You can't just keep killing the head guy because trust me, there's so many of them. By the way, you know, you know what that does is what you're saying right there. That's the, is this a time to intervene
Starting point is 00:22:57 or not to intervene. That's what I'm saying. But the part about to the 100% isolationist mentality does not work. This is the part where why Rubio is kind of going like this and he's coming up to say, look, it depends. The answer is always what? It depends.
Starting point is 00:23:15 So if we're neighbors and this is coming through to us, what do you want to do? So what are you doing a situation like this? Rob, maybe play this clip in an item. I'm coming to you. Go ahead, Rob. Yes, sir. To get to the
Starting point is 00:23:26 war to the war. What? No is option. First, because
Starting point is 00:23:33 it's out of the law. All these of the right, that's in the
Starting point is 00:23:37 book, the or the words, the state of the right,
Starting point is 00:23:42 and they the war against the narco. The war against the
Starting point is 00:23:46 narco is out of the law, because as I did, or I've
Starting point is 00:23:50 said, in various occasions, is to kill, without any juice. And that in
Starting point is 00:24:00 Mexico, nobody, or very pookito, are not of the law. And second,
Starting point is 00:24:08 no, it's not more. Do you feel safer? Oh, the people that live in
Starting point is 00:24:12 Mexico, listening to your president speak like this. Can I ask a question? Yeah. If what would
Starting point is 00:24:18 in the United States of America, the cartel narcoes be, I mean, because they're drugs and they're savages,
Starting point is 00:24:24 they're maniacs. Let's say the KKK. Let's say we killed one of the head guys of the KKK, and now this guy, this guy is out right now. It's sending all his people are burning down Costco's, shooting cops, doing all this. How would we respond? How would you respond?
Starting point is 00:24:39 They're terrible. We go after them and you've got to get rid of all of them. You sound like BB Nanyahu. No, no, I'm sorry. They say the Mexican security forces are outgunned here. The Mexican security and the police. No, no, he's right. Don't just start killing people because they're terrorists.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Time out. Time out. Vinny, finish your point. No, you're right. You make it because you made a great. point. The narcos out man and outgun the actual police and their military. So now what are we supposed to do? Sit back. They're going to kill Americans if they haven't already killed them. You can't now sit there, help, take out the number one guy and sit here and say to him like, all right, guys,
Starting point is 00:25:11 figure it out. No, no, there's Americans there. There's people there, but they're like, you have to help at this point. You can't go in there. They attacked police squads and police buildings. That's a fact. We've seen it. We don't have the inside coverage. We don't have the full story. But we saw videos. They attacked and burned a police station. So they went straight to the headquarters. It's like, Tom, they're murder. They're pulling up.
Starting point is 00:25:35 They're driving around. And I've seen the videos. They're shooting all of them. They're shooting cops. Look at these guys. Guys, do you think this is military? This isn't military, guys. This is a freaking cartel.
Starting point is 00:25:47 They look better than I. Dude, I have a call of duty character that looks like that. Is that cartel? That's a cartel saying, we're coming. What do you want to do? Let's go. That's them. Play the audio rap.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Play the audio. Tom, can you translate? Tom? What's... You're a dog. You're a dog. You're a dog. You're a mother.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Your mother likes me. I don't know. My, Pudas, this is the cartastic cart. Arming up and saying, here we go. And I'm sorry, all the isolationists aside,
Starting point is 00:26:19 this is, this is serious. And Trump has been saying this for how long? They're not sending their best. They're not, these guys are freaking, you think so? I saw a video, I saw a video, and I had, again, I had to turn away. They, on their own people, they caught a guy. The Narcos caught a guy that, I guess, was stealing money from them.
Starting point is 00:26:34 They tied him to a tree. While he's still alive, they cut open his chest, and they took his heart out, and he's still alive. This is brutality, bro. You don't mess with these people, and you just walk away. How bad does this affect Mexico's tourism business for how long? Like, by the way, you know what I'm thinking right now? I don't know if we're going to go to Mexico the next five years. as a family. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:26:57 That thought is gone, right? I'll explain that. But I wonder, like, who is even thinking about right now? There's a girl that did a video saying, I'm sorry, honey, you're worried about losing your $1,200 flight and your $2,000 hotel ticket. We're here. Shit's going down right now. People are getting killed.
Starting point is 00:27:14 I'm not worried about your flight and your hotel that you had booked. She's talking like that. People that have to cancel their plans. Well, Tulum, they've been telling people, am I correct, Adam? And Touloum for a year, they've been telling U.S. tourists to be very careful. specifically in Tulum. So this has been percolating in the background
Starting point is 00:27:29 with danger to tourists. Yeah, well, if you are questioning whether we need a border, building a wall, well, here's example one. You brought up Trump. What was the first thing he came down, the escalator down and says, they're not sending their best.
Starting point is 00:27:45 You know, the whole thing, Trump was right about everything. Well, this is number one to mehente out there. So if you're going to subscribe to the Down Road Doctrine in the Western Hemisphere, priority number one is securing the southern border so we don't have Mexico creeping in to the United States. And then up top in Canada, you know, the song that goes clowns to the left and me, jokers to the right, here I am.
Starting point is 00:28:07 We have narco-terrorists to the south of us. We have Hamas sympathizers to the north of us. Here I am stuck in the middle with you. The point is we live in the greatest country in the world. And everyone here is like, oh, well, you know, ICE killed one person. Oh my God. We see what's going on in Iran. We see what's going on in Mexico.
Starting point is 00:28:27 We see what's going on in Europe. You have to be an absolute idiot to not understand how great America is. I brought up, you know, Pat, do you remember months ago I was like, do you know that eight of the top ten most dangerous cities in the Western Hemisphere or in one country, it's called Mexico? So I have no interest in going to Mexico at all. All my friends, they go to Cancun, they go to Tulum, they go to all these wonderful cities in Mexico, I go, dude, just go to Miami.
Starting point is 00:29:01 You want to go to see Cuba, go to Little Havana. You want to go see Venezuela, go to Doral. You want to go to visit people in Haiti, go to Little Haiti. Come to Miami if you want beaches. Unfortunately, if you want to see Somalia, you got to go to Minnesota for that. But we live in the greatest country in the world. We live in the best state in the world. We live in the best city in South Florida, in Miami.
Starting point is 00:29:22 And this is what happens in Mexico. when you take out a narco terrorist, a drug dealer, this is how the country acts. No, thank you. And they call it his son, too. There's a video of his son on a helicopter, shirtless, head down, and they're pushing. And he keeps trying to look out the window. So they captured him. I mean, they killed him and they got his son.
Starting point is 00:29:43 So it's going to be a very interesting. I don't know how many sons he has, but this guy, El Mancho, so I don't know what El Mancho stands for, but if I'm just going to say, the Mench, I'm just going to say, the Mench, I run. Ironically, in Judaism means the most upstanding, incredible human of all time, the mensch. But the mensch's son apparently is sentenced to life in prison serving time in D.C. You can fact check that. His brother that goes by the name of Tony Montana, like from Scarface, he, Antonio, he's now apparently running the show over here.
Starting point is 00:30:16 But only in Mexico. What is this right? See the guy with a shirt with his head down? Yeah. That's allegedly. That's him. That's them with the son. And he's, look how nervous the pilot looks.
Starting point is 00:30:25 By the way, only in Mexico, can you grow up poor? The head down is the Saba Cota. His son, Elmachian son. That's his son. That they caught him. His other son. Who caught him? I think that's our guy.
Starting point is 00:30:34 That's their guys, their military. Yeah, it says Mexico on his. Mexico has his son. That's from what I, that's... That helicopter could get shot down at any set. Look how nervous he looked. Look at that face. The only reason it doesn't is his son is there.
Starting point is 00:30:47 So they're saying the next three that could replace him are Ricardo Ruiz Velasco, who is One, he's a Mexican cartel figure identified as senior commander in Halisco, New Generation Cartel. He's one. The other one is Al-Diaz Flores Silva. And he's also alleged high-ranking figure in the same gang, one of the most powerful gangs out there. Also born in Michoacan. And then you have Juan Carlos, Valencia, Gonzalez. Another high-ranking guy.
Starting point is 00:31:17 So one of those three, they're saying, could take over. the U.S. Department has $5 million for information leading to his arrest. This guy here, Juan Carlos Valencia Gonzalez. So it would be interesting what happens there. But as we continue and we move on, Iran's situation is escalating very, very quickly. Everybody's asking, is it going to happen today? Is it going to happen tomorrow? Is it going to happen this?
Starting point is 00:31:44 By the way, would it be true? Would it be unlike Trump to do it while he's given a state of the United States? on tomorrow night, Tuesday night. Can you imagine he's given a speech and all of a sudden, boom, the attack takes place. And at the end, he says, by the way, check your phones. Iran has officially been this. We have Chaminé, we have this, we have that.
Starting point is 00:32:05 They may or may not. It's a little bit too risky, but when you're looking at what type of, did you see the B-52, which bomber was it that was flying in, Rob? There was a bomber that was flying in. I mean, every, they're literally setting everything over there. I know the picture you're talking about. That's our B-2s.
Starting point is 00:32:23 The B-2 bomber that went over there. Zoom in a little bit, Rob. Yeah, the B-2 bombers. Where did it go to, though? It went to somewhere in the Middle East that it was seen. So at any point, anything could happen there. Let me go to the store here and we'll kind of read through it. Which one should we go to, Rob? What page do we have the Iran news? That would be page 18 and 19.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Page 18 and 19. Okay, so Iran regime scores off against student protests in the streets of Tehran, dead to Chaminet. So they're now saying death to Chaminet in Iran, which is the complete opposite of death to America. The students are now wanting debt to Chaminet. Go ahead, Rob, if you want to play this clip. This is Wall Street Journal reading this story with Iranian students protest as angry growth. FYI, this is kind of exactly what happened with Khomeini back in the United States. the days when Muhammad Azashapal-A-Lavi, they were doing the same exact type of protest.
Starting point is 00:33:35 And Rob, is this the one from Wall Street Journal? It's just one of them, yes. Okay, got it. So this leads to the telegraph story. Trump could kill Ayatollah's son and senior Mullahs to topple Iranian regime. Tom, what do you think is going to happen here? So I think this is going to be surgical, and I think they've got it planned. They've got the buildup there. And I think Whitkoff said,
Starting point is 00:34:00 something over the weekend. He said, you know, they're not cooperating anymore in discussions. And Whitkoff also said, I really fear that they do have the enrichment capabilities. And Whitkoff has never said that. I went back and looked at Whitkoff. Wittkoff doesn't put these little things out there like that. This is not his style. This is not the way he did it. So for him to be saying, I believe that they have the ability to enrich the uranium. We've been trying to talk to them. They're not, they're, they're no longer talking forthrightly. So when I see that, you know, we're giving them an opportunity. We've, Wittkov's there. Rubio is, is behind the scenes. We're trying to get them to do the right thing. But we want the transition. We don't want to
Starting point is 00:34:45 have Crazy 2 as a sequel to Crazy 1. So I think what's about to happen here, you can't allow the enrichment, but you've got to have a plan for succession. That's the issue, Pat. Those two things is what they're juggling. You've got to have a plan. You've got to get rid of the enrichment. You've got to go out to the facilities. But then you got to have a plan for succession. And if you, it's, and I think they're doing everything they can to do both at once and they're going to be pushed to the wall where I think they have to just go in and take care of the enrichment and just say, hey, don't F around because you look at those people. Yeah, Romania is not polling well with the citizens there. And unfortunately, we just have polls and elections here. They'll have polls and coups. So I think it's coming. And I think it's hours away, not days away. I think it's hours.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Yeah. Yesterday, Mario Nafal reported something from a different X that was saying, Iran is now coming up saying we're willing to negotiate anything and everything. You know, what is it you want? If you want to extend nuclear development, if you want us to do this, we're open to, do it. Just remove us from the sanctions.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Now they're coming. out saying, no, no, let's negotiate. Because apparently the last time when Whitkoff and Kushner went there to negotiate, I don't know if you heard what happened at the end. At the end, they're like, no, we're good. They walked out. No, no, no, no, no, no. This is it.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Out. No more negotiation. They came. They made their offer. There was discussion. They said, there's nothing else to discuss. They left. Which means an attack is what a lot of people think is imminent.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Rob, is this a recent clip? I guess this was Friday from the president. What is he saying in this clip here? That tells the Iranian people at time to negotiate a fair deal. They're not going to be doing that. It's what he said on Air Force One. I don't even think they want to. I don't think we, they, they, Trump's team wants to negotiate.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I think they're done. I think they're past it. I think the whole, you know what it changes if they do negotiate with them? What quote is officially out the window? If they negotiate with them, what quote is out the window? A quote that's been used for decades. Go ahead. that it's out the window.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Yeah, you're right. If you negotiate, guess what's going to happen in 2020? I'm sorry, weren't you guys the party that said you never negotiated with a terrorist party? Yep. And you did. You negotiated with them. So now what? What are you going to be doing now?
Starting point is 00:37:11 So there is a report yesterday that I came up, you know, that they're willing to come up and do something with them. But apparently nothing's been happening yet. Adam, your thoughts? Yeah, I don't see this ending. well for anybody. Tens of thousands of people have already died and I expect if something happens it could get way worse. By the way, how brave are these protesters in Iran after knowing that their brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, family, parents, kids, all tens of thousands were murdered by the regime and then they went out and protested again. Is that what's going on here?
Starting point is 00:37:48 Yes. Imagine that. Put yourself in these protesters' shoes. They killed all their friends and they're coming back two weeks later is basically saying, no, we can't stand for this. There's the most daylight in the world between the most brutal regime and the people that want freedom exists in Iran. So number two, follow the money. How much money are we spending to have a fleet out there in the middle of the ocean, in the, what sea is it, the Persian Gulf? What city is it?
Starting point is 00:38:20 Okay. The Persian Gulf, how much money are we spending? If Trump doesn't do anything, we just spent billions of dollars to what? Show for us. So in my opinion, this something's got to give here. Last but not least, follow the money. The economy of Iran is crumbling. I mean, they're already one of the worst countries in the world when it comes to the misery index,
Starting point is 00:38:43 which basically tracks what, unemployment and inflation. The people have nothing to live for at this point. The economy's in shambles. Half the people don't want to follow this ridiculous, ideological religious regime, and they're just basically saying, please come help us. Now, Trump, you've said that help is on the way. So what are you doing, President? Because, in my opinion, this 88-year-old Ayatollah, dude, he'll die a martyr, no problem.
Starting point is 00:39:10 The question is, who's going to come replace him? So we'll see. But, I mean, it's easier said than Don Adam. And I think Tom made a great point. And we've said it last week. Who's going to take his spot and who is the military going to listen to? because those same people that we saw videos that they're driving, bro, we're not seeing a sliver of what's actually happening.
Starting point is 00:39:29 What I've heard from people that have family there, Adam, they're shooting them in the streets and they're driving over them. I did see one video, I think me and Pat did, where a civilian finally was like, you know, the hell of it, and there was IRGC running in the street, and he was running them over. So it's a very difficult situation because, okay, and look what's happening in Mexico.
Starting point is 00:39:49 You take out the main guy. Then what? This is a huge thing that people are looking over. Don't get me wrong, Adam. I'm not an isolationist in the sense that if your whole thing is death to America, not death to Adam, Vinny, Florida, America, you know what that means? Everybody that's in this country, if they were dead, they'd be happy. Them's is fight in words, okay?
Starting point is 00:40:12 So if you want the smoke, you're going to get it. But when I say it's hard because you can't, Adam, think about this. Tom's the main guy. Tom's hominy. You take them out. We're generals, all of us. Who do you think we're going to listen to whoever the Israel or the United States? Wait, wait, which one of you decides it's going to be number one? That's what I was just...
Starting point is 00:40:31 You two generals talk to each other. I'll be number one. I have all the forces of the South. I have the forces of the North. It's like Pat was just talking about the list of cartel people waiting to flow in. You think those guys are going to play nice with each other? Hell no. Every one of those wants to be the next mentor.
Starting point is 00:40:46 I love it because you took the words out of my mouth. You don't think Adam, you don't think you're going to be like, Wait, who are you to see? Who said that you're going to be in charge? No, but the U.S. said that Pat's going to be in charge. You be dictator today. I'll be dictator tomorrow. No, Adam, so, and I get it.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Something needs to be done, but, I mean, ships are on the move. I saw the USS. Was it Ford? Tom, Gerald Ford? It's in the wall. It's positioning. Can you pull this up? Can you pull up what I just texted you, please?
Starting point is 00:41:10 So this is very interesting from what Mario Nafal is reporting from a visioner. Rob, if you can pull, this is about geopolitics. If you pull up, take a look at what they're doing here with this. So three area refuelers, all taking off from Japan, are now cruising at low refueling altitudes and doing the aviation equivalent of tiptoeing through the house at 3 a.m. Avoiding every national airspace like the old country's money. Refuelers don't do this unless they're babysitting someone important, which brings us to the 4B52 sitting in Guam.
Starting point is 00:41:50 The flying sledgehammers of U.S. foreign policy possibly rolling out for little unscheduled travel in the direction of Diego Garcia, America's favorite. We're saying, we're not saying we're preparing for something, but we're preparing for something, Ireland. So when you see all of this stuff going on, you know, it's, and Adam to go and say that he promised he's going to do it. That's what a lot of Iranians are saying, hey, you made a promise, you made a promise. But he never said I was going to do it on your terms. By the way, here's John Kiraqu, the CIA officer who was the whistleblower on what he called a waterboarding many, many years ago. He did time for that. Here's what you have to say, just a few days ago on Friday.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Go ahead. I have a friend, former CIA officer, who was at the White House this morning talking to his friends. And he says that a decision has been made to attack Iran on Monday or Tuesday. The president yesterday gave the Iranians 10 days to, to, you know, accept our proposals for an end to their ballistic missile program, an end to their uranium enrichment program, an end to supporting groups in the Middle East like Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthis. But he's done this before. Well, he'll give you 10 days. He'll give you two weeks. And then he'll just attack two days into it.
Starting point is 00:43:15 He thinks that that keeps people off balance. And so he said that there are battle lines, that the anti-war forces are J.D. Vance and Tulsa Gabbard. He said that the pro-war people are led by Marco Rubio and include Pete Hegsef. And now the Joint Chiefs of Staff. And I stopped him on that point this morning. And I said, wait a minute. I said, during the Iraq war, at the start of the Iraq, war. The most stridently anti-war component was the Joint Chiefs of Staff. They were always the last
Starting point is 00:43:54 ones that wanted to attack because they know what war is. And he said, ah, but you forget, Trump has replaced all of the Joint Chiefs this year in the past 12 months, which I had forgotten. Tom, what do you think? What would he say? Any of these four? Searchlight Pictures presents in the blink of an eye on Hulu on Disney Plus, a sweeping science fiction drama spanning the Stone Age, the present day, and the distant future. About the essence of what it means to be human, regardless of our place in history.
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Starting point is 00:44:42 every president is going to have his own cabinet, his own appointments. Everybody that's flipping out over the FCC and equal time provision forgets that, you know, Biden had his FCC person. Now Trump's got his FCC person. And it's a policy. They're
Starting point is 00:44:57 implementers a policy. He's the commander in chief. He will appoint the joint chiefs that he gets along with. You have Biden, who is commander in chief, and he was appointing joint chiefs and then generals that were more interested in
Starting point is 00:45:13 in skirts, trans, trans, and making the military into something else than they were in national defense. So it does not surprise me that the Joint Chiefs would think different to his point there. And I also believe what they're saying. You know, I don't think Rubio's a war hawk. Here come the comments. Oh, you don't understand.
Starting point is 00:45:35 No, I don't think he's war first. But I think he recognizes what has to be done here. And, you know, do I think the cabinet split? Yeah, because you know what? I think Trump's got people in that cabinet that have a little tension with each other that don't necessarily agree with people. And I think, you know, you value that as a leader, that you get perspectives in the room. Everybody tells you you're right all the time. Then the day you're wrong and they're still telling you you're right, you're naked.
Starting point is 00:46:01 So I hope what he's saying has some truth to it. I don't know about his information or credibility. That's not what I'm worried about. Who I do trust are the Iranian people saying, Mahbad Ayatollah Khomeini. So we're all worried about who's going to be the next person up. I'm not worried about that. Why not?
Starting point is 00:46:22 Because what are the Iranian people are asking? Are they shouting, who's the next person? That will be figured out. By the way, in Miami, I've spoken to not 10, not 50, hundreds of Venezuelans. Every single one was like, dude, I don't care what happens next. Thank God we got done with Maduro. Every single person I know that is pure-blooded loves Iran, Persian,
Starting point is 00:46:44 who lives in America all over the world. Yes, they're going to figure out who they want next. They're saying, let's get done with this guy. Nothing changes if nothing changes. You have to take out the figurehead, the leader, the supreme leader, if he doesn't go, nothing changes. So we can debate who's next, who's the next person up. We have the convenience of doing that in our lovely studio in Fort Lauderdale.
Starting point is 00:47:06 The people of Iran are calling for a change. Let's listen to them. Hold on. And I agree with the listening to them and whatever, but yeah, could be in a studio, but we have to be smart in that, Adam, if you take out that head and another guy just like him comes in, everything that those people have been fighting for? You don't think that if they thought about that? Well, Adam, give our military a little bit of credit.
Starting point is 00:47:28 They're not like, what? You've got to get a new leader there? They thought of it. What they did in Venezuela? They basically took out the leader, Maduro, and they're like, yeah, you work for us now, okay? The president of Venezuela is Marco Rubio. So you don't think they have something planned in Iran?
Starting point is 00:47:41 I'm not saying they don't, but saying, why is it taking so long? You know why? Because I guarantee you the person that they thought. Why is it taking so long? It's been 47 years. No, no, no, no, no. You think this thing happens overnight? Stick to the point of when he said, help is coming and I'm going to help you. Why hasn't?
Starting point is 00:47:55 Because the Venezuela thing happened. This has been going on for the entire administration. Why didn't he come in? Adam, because I guarantee you the person, hold on, let me finish. It's totally different. Obviously, but the person that they thought. Venezuela is a small puppy compared to a. Adam, you brought up Venezuela.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Let him finish, Adam. Let him finish. Because you can't. Venezuela doesn't chant. Death to America and doesn't have all the militant, everybody trying to kill us. That's a completely different situation. That Israel was easy, small. Now, you're talking about Iran, and you're talking about people that want to kill all of us.
Starting point is 00:48:24 So, yeah, it's a whole different situation. So what's your solution? And my solution is, I don't know what their solution is because they obviously had a leader. They obviously had a leader in mind. He obviously is not the guy. Trump even said about Rezao Palavi. He's not the guy. You're not the guy.
Starting point is 00:48:40 So maybe. What do you want to do with Ayatollah Khomeini? Let's stay there. Okay, ready for this, Adam, Adam, let's get him. Let's put him in jail forever. Who's taking his spot? Like another six months. Adam, who's taking his spot?
Starting point is 00:48:51 Since you know so much and we're sitting in the studio in beautiful Florida. Whoever it is, isn't going to be worse than this clown. Says who? How do you know? The people shouting death to Khomeini. How about those? How about those people? Adam, it's so.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Are you not, hold on, let me just be very clear. Are you not listening to the protesters of what they're asking for? Are we not paying attention to them? The 40,000 that are the 40, what are they, what is the, what is the? What is the two words they're saying? Help us. That's not what they're saying. Yes, they are.
Starting point is 00:49:17 They want help. What is Magma Khomeini? Madhba Khomeini, death upon Khomeini. Okay, so that's what they're shouting. Yeah, one protest. I don't speak Farsi. One protest. That was a protest.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Maybe. Pibati, how many protests are shouting those two words? A lot. It's, it's not a number one goal. It's hundreds. They're done with that. By the way, I want to show you something here. Iranian foreign minister says U.S. deal is still quite possible.
Starting point is 00:49:41 What's the date? When was February 22nd? Yesterday. Yesterday. Meaning, hey, hey, it's still possible. Give us a call. Whitkoff and Kushner is like, no, we're good, we're out. Then put the other one up, Rob. You can't trust these people. Iran, U.S. talk stores, Iran offered to ship out of half of their uranium. After years of, we'll never stop in Richmond. They're negotiating how to get rid of it. What happened? U.S. envoy Whitkoff on TV. Why hasn't Iran capitulated? Iran's foreign minister, because we're Iranian.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Iran also hinted they'll negotiate on Hezbollah Hamas, missile still off limit. So listen, they're, they're gradual. You know what this is, though, Vinnie? Here's where it's at. My take, my take. Sometimes, you know, you negotiate with somebody and you'll make an offer, you know they're going to say what to. No, to. Because guess what you want to do?
Starting point is 00:50:37 Do you want a different option? No, you want to attack. Because you already know your mind is made up. Do you really think this entire time U.S. wanted to negotiate with Iran? Do you really believe they were convinced that you could negotiate with Iran? Do you know what would happen the moment they brokered a deal? Guess what they would do the next day? You know what highlight real would be showing up?
Starting point is 00:51:00 What do you think the highlight real would be showing up? Of when Obama, the $150 billion Iran and, hey, all the Republicans that said, don't go negotiate with them and look what you did, Obama. You are officially Obama. So don't criticize Obama. That's what I would do if I was on the other side. That's what I would do if I was seeing and I'm playing those clips. I'd be shown that clip the entire time.
Starting point is 00:51:18 I'm convinced this entire time they've known 90% where they stand. I think the president and his team from six months ago to today, their position on Iran has changed 5 to 10%. Not 38% position that change. 5 to 10%. What they end up doing here with this, what happens? afterwards, Tom said it in the back and he said it again here. What happens
Starting point is 00:51:46 when he take out El Mancho? What happens to Halisco? What happens to Mexico? It's chaos. What's going to happen if you take out what do you call it? Bless you. What happens if you take out Chaminé and his sons and his people? There's only one big difference.
Starting point is 00:52:02 You know what the big difference is? Here's a big difference. Massive difference. In Mexico, the difference is El Mancho and his group, CJNG, they had bought all the cops. Where here, it's U.S. coming in. And we're not bought by Iran. It's not like they're doing it.
Starting point is 00:52:24 It's the other way around where it's like, hey, you guys better do what we're doing. I think they are shivering and the Iranian people are supporting it. In Mexico, what a shine bomb, the president say, no, leave it alone, don't come here. So, I don't know. The rule of law.
Starting point is 00:52:39 The rule of law. I think the world would be a better place with Iran toppling. Who replaces? They asked the question. Laura Trump asked the question from Whitkoff. Rob, I don't know if you have that one when the name Reza Palavi came up. And he says, this is not a Reza-Palavi issue. Go ahead, Rob, if you want to play this clip.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Go ahead. Well, there's that pressure. There's also pressure coming from Iran from their own people. Obviously, we've seen these major protests going on within the country. the exiled crown prince Reza Palavi has also laid out pretty clear steps as to how a transition of power might occur over there in his eyes. Has he been part of any of this? Have you guys had any conversations with him? Well, I've met him at the direction of the president. I actually, you know, it's public. It's out there. I think he's strong for his country, cares about his country,
Starting point is 00:53:29 but this is going to be president about President Trump's policies, not not, not Mr. Palavva's a policy. I think the president is interested in hearing everyone's views. He is not proud of authorship as maybe the best way for me to say, which I greatly respect because he's open to new ideas and new ways of thinking. To move to Europe. There you go. So that's the part. What did he say essentially?
Starting point is 00:53:55 He said, look, I met with them. The president has number Whitkoff did. And he says, this is public info. But this is not a Trump issue. This is not a Pahlavi issue. This is Trump's decision on what's going to be happening. I think the way it's looking at it. like right now, Rob, can you find out when is Venezuela's next election?
Starting point is 00:54:13 When is Venezuela's next election? When is Venezuela's next election? Let's see what the date is. Is it six months from now, three months from now, two months from now? When is their next presidential election? Because, wow, unless there's a political crisis. There's no constitution. There's six years.
Starting point is 00:54:34 The last one's on 2020. It just happened. You know what you mean? So, okay, so that means, so you know what that means? If it's in 2030, who the hell is in office in 2030? Who's president in 2030? We don't know. So how to hell do you control the point of contact, Tom, with that?
Starting point is 00:54:53 Well, they have one caveat. Venezuelan law allows early election if there's an absolute absent of president. Death, resignation, removal, extraction, extraction. But by the way, which could. trigger a new vote within 30 days. Hasn't happened? How long has it been? When was the Venezuela, when they took Maduro?
Starting point is 00:55:14 What date was that? It was it December 27? I don't know what date it was. This year. Was it January? When is it? What day did they take them out? There's so much that happened.
Starting point is 00:55:24 I forgot that. So they could call one if they wanted, Pat. They could gather. Who's they? When was that? Well, the Venezuelan equivalent of Parliament and Congress. But right now, you've got. January 3rd. Happy New Year, Maduro.
Starting point is 00:55:38 So it's been a month and a half. So then that means if they take out Chaminé, if they take out Pes-E, if they take out all the people in Iran, how quickly will you have an election to replace it? Election in Iran? Yes. Can I ask you a question on that? Yeah, go for it.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Election around seems like an oxymoron because let's look at case examples. Right. So what are the free democratically elected rulers or countries in the Middle East. I got one, Israel. Any other Middle Eastern countries that practice democracy? We've seen what happens when we try to implement our worldview over there.
Starting point is 00:56:17 It gets real ugly. So you have three options. Correct me if I'm wrong. You have Supreme Leader vibes, which is this complete theological, theocratic, Shiite regime, which they seem to be done with. You have king or ruler,
Starting point is 00:56:33 which was the Shah, or you have democracy. in my opinion you have to go the middle version. They're done with the Shiite ruler, and there's zero case examples that democracy will work in the Middle East. We could wish for it, we could love it. Yes, you're going to be just like America.
Starting point is 00:56:49 I don't know if that's possible there. So maybe you need a temporary Shah, whether it's Rezapalovie, whatever it is, but there's no evidence in the last 50 years that a democracy can work in the Middle East. You tell me, am I right? Am I wrong? Thoughts on this?
Starting point is 00:57:06 Well, no, the argument of people saying, you know, let them have an election, let them choose their president, then if you take with the position you're saying, this isn't about let it fall and let's see who takes over. The way you're thinking, if they think the way you're thinking, they already have in mind who's going to take over to lead Iran. It's an ugly situation. Yeah, of course. You understand what I'm saying? It's a mystery map and a riddle and a quagmire. We don't know. Do you think the administration knows what they want to do?
Starting point is 00:57:36 Or do you think the administration is also saying, let's just do the job and see what happens next? Sadly, I think there's a part that's like, guys, we don't know what. That's horrible. Okay, of course. We learned when we went into Afghanistan and Iraq that we don't know Sunni, Shiite, Alawite, who's this, what's going on? Hezbollah, are they, our friend, Hezbollah is now working.
Starting point is 00:57:56 They're friends with these people with the proxies. It's so messy out there and it's so tribal out there. We have no clue what we're doing, but we know this one thing. Magba Ayatollah. We know that. Vinny, go ahead. What do you think? Do you think they know what happens after they execute their mission?
Starting point is 00:58:13 Because everybody's attitude is, like Adams, which I understand, just get rid of the bad guy that's doing all the problems on the chaos. But it doesn't work that way. You have to do it. And I keep saying it. Besides the people, God bless them, they need it. The military and the people that are running everything, it's so important. You can't just pluck them out. That's like somebody coming, taking.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Pat out, the board getting rid of Pat, and a new CEO comes in, and they have different ideas, different things, it doesn't work like that. Or they even have a CEO. Or the new CEO's going to kind to be like Pat, but he's going to have different agendas. No, bro, this is, this is soar, that's why I think it's taking so long, because they don't know. They don't know. I'm all for it. Chalmeni, death to America, the way he treats the women, the way he treats his people, the way he kills the people, and the way the military is doing it, shame on them. I agree with you. And we've seen this an election. You see it in free country's election. It's when the public is fed up.
Starting point is 00:59:08 The voters are fed up, and all of a sudden the voters do this. Anything but this. Yes. And guess what? That's how Mamdani got elected in New York. Affordability, rent problems, things that are happening in New York. And the middle class and the left side of it took enough independence with them. And Mandami gets elected on anything but this.
Starting point is 00:59:32 I'll give you free buses. I'll make the buses free. I'll give you free grocery stores. I'll make this free. Because in the face of everything, and the voters do it. We saw it happen here. What the people over there are saying is, I am willing to protest. And they are brave souls right now saying, I am willing to protest, even though I know what has happened to 30,000 to 40,000 of my countrymen. I am going out in the streets. I am going to go here. And we want you to cut the head off the snake. We want anything but this. And that's what you're seeing. And I think if there was a clear path, we already would have intervened. The nuclear part of it is forcing our hand to move faster. And I agree with Pat. I don't think we've changed what we thought. He said, look, we're going to try and do this. We're going to try and talk to these guys.
Starting point is 01:00:15 You're going to do it. Ultimately, we're going to have to push them. And when the nuclear capability gets too close, you know what we got to do? We've got to cut the head off the snake. And I think that's right. And think about it, you're talking about nuclear capabilities. You take Alchomania. Adam, who's running their nuclear program?
Starting point is 01:00:35 The leaders are like, where? We'll give you half the uranium. Let me just be clear. Let me just be clear. You're kind of saying, just keep Khomeini there. I did not say that at all. Until we figure out a better option. So I'm trying to understand your point.
Starting point is 01:00:45 You have to have a plan in place before you take out a country's number one guy. Or else, or else nothing's going to change. You know what the difference is between us and them? Biden and his administration crapped on this country and tried to destroy us. Try to destroy us. Guess what we got to do? We got to go to the voting booth and he won. in an insane fashion.
Starting point is 01:01:05 He won all the swing stakes. He won the pipe to vote. He won everything. They don't have that opportunity. They don't get to go vote. It's who's in charge and who's in charge. What I'm saying is, Adam, he needs to go, yes. Why it's taking so long?
Starting point is 01:01:17 They don't have the guy. They don't have the plan. And I'm pretty sure outside forces are like, just take him out already. Just kill him. You can't do that without a backup plan. I just have one last question. I know, Pat, once in a moment.
Starting point is 01:01:28 When you say taking so long, Trump's been in power for a year. Yeah. Okay, in this thing. This has been ongoing for how long, Pat? 47 years? Listen, if it was easy, we would do it already. This is a very hard thing to do. Exactly. Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of people will die. So I'm actually gracious and grateful that they're actually taking their time and not going in like idiots like George W. Bush did in Iraq and Afghanistan. I agree. I agree. All right. Let's get to next story. Next story I want to get to is tariffs. Trump raises global tariffs to 15%. Obviously, we know what happened with Supreme Court, ruling 6-3 against the tariffs. The president tweeted something, Rob, if you want to pull that up, truth social.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Tom, I'm going to come to you first on this one here. The one on the lower case, Rob, that we had this morning we were looking at. So here's the president, based on a thorough detailed and complete review of the ridiculous, poorly written, extraordinarily anti-American decision tariffs issued yesterday after months of contemplation by the U.S. U.S. Supreme Court, please let the statement, sir, that I, the President United States will be effective immediately raising the 10% worldwide tariffs on countries, many of which have been rip in the U.S. for decades without retribution until I came along to the fully allowed and legally tested 15% level. During the next short number of months, the Trump administration will determine
Starting point is 01:02:49 and issue the new and legally permissible tariffs, which will continue our extraordinary successful process of making America great again, greater than ever before. Thank you for attention to this matter. President Donald J. Trump. Rob, there's another tweet as well that he did towards tariffs, if I'm not mistaken, that we were looking at this morning. No, not this one, not this one. Go back to that. I want to see what it says right there. My new hero in the United Supreme Court is Justin, Justice Brett Kavanaugh, and of course, Justice Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito. There is no doubt in anyone's mind that they want to make America great again. So you know what he's saying there. Tom, where are you at with this now after the announcement that was
Starting point is 01:03:29 last Friday was sudden. What's he saying here, Rob? This is where it calls out near Neil Gorsuch and Amy Coney Barrett. Whether people like it or not, never seems to happen with Democrats. They vote against Republicans and never against themselves almost every single time, no matter how good a case we have, at least at in appoint Roberts, who led the efforts to allow foreign
Starting point is 01:03:50 countries that have been ripping us off for years to continue to do so, but we won't let it happen. The new tariffs totally tested and accepted that as law are on their way. President Donald Trump, Tom, thoughts. So a couple things here. First of all, in the midst of the cacophony, you had Ram Paul step up and said, look, we don't want a president to use executive order when the power of executive order isn't there because the precedent is when we have a liberal president or somebody from the other side, you're going to get stuff coming back the other way. We have to do this orderly. But Ram Paul is not necessarily.
Starting point is 01:04:27 anti-tariff. So on one hand, I get it. I get that we don't want to use the executive order if there's not authority. However, on the other side, we have been doing nothing. And what President Trump showed was leadership on tariffs, which I agreed with. We got people to give us trade deals. We got people that come to the negotiating table and got things shifted, that he's right. For we had decades, certain industries were disadvantaged. and our own government didn't care about our own people and our own industries that were going through it. And Trump went out and did it. Now, what I don't like is the politicization with ignorance.
Starting point is 01:05:10 And the politicization with ignorance is the Dems and the liberals that think, ha, ha, we stopped Trump. Wait, what did you stop? The tariffs have been working. There was not rampant inflation. CPI came out and it was 0.1, 2.3 and 2.4, year over year. You have to give a leader the ability to lead. And what's happening here is what's behind the scenes.
Starting point is 01:05:36 The globalists and the liberals want this one-world government. They don't want leaders to lead from a sovereign position. And so they're trying to stop him. But what you're seeing with Trump is he's trying to lead. And it's very tough for a leader to lead in a committee environment. And that's exactly what you have in government. And he's trying to sit down, get to search. points and push them. And so the Supreme Court decision disappointed me because I read it and
Starting point is 01:06:05 I believe that there is executive order capability in the area of tariffs. They're saying no. But Scott Besson has been saying for a year that they have other tools. To me, it's not that they have other tools to get it done. They're going to get it done for our economy. He's not going to give up. The issue is we've got liberals that think it's a good thing that you've incapacitated your from making good decisions for your country to write wrongs that have been going on for decades, and you don't like him. So anything but him, that's the part that sickens me. The part that sickens me is no one is looking at the success we've had on trade. Pat, no one's looking at the success we've had negotiating with people.
Starting point is 01:06:47 It's just anti-Trump. And that's the part that just pisses me off. I want you to see this clip in the video I'm coming to you. Go ahead, Rob. Mm-hmm. Justice is fortunate and Ferret, are you surprised in particular by their decision today? I am. Do you regret nominating them? I don't want to say whether or not a regret.
Starting point is 01:07:05 I think their decision was terrible. I think it's an embarrassment to their families. You want to know the truth, the two of them. Yeah. He started soft and in his mind he says, Trump, go. It's an embarrassment to their family. So at first he was soft. What are you saying?
Starting point is 01:07:24 Well, I mean, like, honestly, is anybody out there surprised? It's been an uphill battle, to say the least, from 2016, with Russia, Obama, spying, fast forward, all the way to shooting him, to even trying to win for America. And it's not like it's not working. How many billions and billions of dollars were freaking coming back. We're coming back. And it just drives me crazy that even when you try to say, Tommy, Republican, there, what was it? It's like enough already. Can we just, the guy's doing a fantastic job.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Yeah, I have some criticizing points on some other stuff, but like, what are we, what are we doing? It's working. We're respected. The money's starting to come in time. You talked about the numbers with the percentages and everything's coming back. It's like, give me a break. When is it going to stop, Pat? When are they going to say, okay, listen, you're the president.
Starting point is 01:08:15 We trust you at this point. Go do it. Let me see, let me see the breakdown. Let me see the case study. Oh, you made us $300 billion. Okay, keep doing your thing. They're respecting us. Do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, on April 1st, the market goes down and then the market comes back all the way through the year, comes back, consumer CPI comes out. There was not rampant inflation. Do the liberals won't come to the microphone and say, oh, I'm sorry, I was wrong.
Starting point is 01:08:37 I said there'd be rampant inflation because of its tariffs. It didn't happen. Oh, we got trade deals done for a number of industries. I said that would never happen. Oh, wait, gosh, it didn't. Look at this. There's a success on it that no one wants to talk about. Here's my concern with this is when your president that you voted for is in, you support executive orders, you know, whatever he wants to do, right? When your president, the president you voted for is the president you voted for. You probably aligned with his ideas. What percentage? Say 90%. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:12 All right. So you want that. Go make decisions. And remember, you can celebrate it when you're president until the other side. gets elected. Of course. My biggest trust in the system and the Constitution came when I found out what the most powerful community is in D.C. And that's the Supreme Court. Of course. We learned this during COVID. We learned this the last eight years. It's the most powerful. So check this out. Since 1700s, 1789 or so, 165 formal Supreme Court nominations have happened. How many of them you think
Starting point is 01:09:48 got rejected that didn't make it. 165, how many didn't make it after the hearing, after the Senate hearing? 165, how many didn't make it? 165, how many didn't make it? Well, there been a few. We mean, Bush had one that blew up and he had to pull it back. And then, um, Bork,
Starting point is 01:10:07 Robert Bork got blown up. How many do you think? At a 165, what do you think the number is? Is it high? Is it low? Is it? I think it's probably 20, I'll guess. 20, 37. That didn't make it through. Right. That didn't make you through.
Starting point is 01:10:18 through. Basically, there's a high bar. So do you know why that's important to me? Because imagine if all of a sudden Kamala doesn't get any other job and they nominate her to be a Supreme Court. How do you think she's going to vote when it comes on to different ruling and, you know, off the ballot in Colorado? You have to really make sure this is not an evil person. I don't know if you know what I'm saying. You have to really be thinking. So to me, a bigger part of this is more a 50-year thing than a short term. When I was with Rand Paul, Rob, if you want to pull up the interview with Rand Paul, how long ago was this when we were in D.C.?
Starting point is 01:10:54 Two weeks ago? Was it two weeks ago, three weeks ago? Watch this. Go ahead, Rob. Against us, I want him to have it. My concern is if Supreme Court takes that away from him, that power away from it, which he keeps bringing it up, which means they may do it. They may say no, and then we lose the revenue that we're getting. Well, it's not a matter of taking it away from.
Starting point is 01:11:12 The Constitution is pretty explicit. Taxes originate in the House have to go to the Senate. It specifically even mentions duties and levies. It mentions tariffs in the Constitution, says that they are in the prerogative of the House. Even the Senate can't. We're not supposed to initiate tariffs. Only the House does. Comes to the Senate, goes to the President.
Starting point is 01:11:30 It is a tax. A tariff is a tax. And it never was the prerogative of the president. Now, some legislation has tried to give him that power. But what he's using is something called AEPA, which is an emergency legislation. And it doesn't mention anything about tariffs. Supreme Court's going to rule against them? If they follow the law, they absolutely will rule against him.
Starting point is 01:11:49 You've got to be kidding me. Yeah, because the law is explicit. And so he will try to use other reasons for how he can use tariffs. But it's also very chaotic. I mean, you know. You can pause it right there. So this is Rand Paul saying this two and a half weeks ago. When he said it, he says if they follow the law, they will rule against him.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Adam thoughts. Well, thank you for interviewing Rand Paul because once he basically said that, I was like, oh, they're going to strike this thing down. because in my opinion, you know, we need to make great again? Congress. We need to make Congress great again. There was a time where Congress actually did their job, but we're living in such partisan times that they can't even do anything. So Trump has to do things like this.
Starting point is 01:12:29 So if I'm a massive, massive mag of Trump fan, here's how I'm thinking. Trump's doing the right thing. He's American America great again. We're going to impose reciprocal tariffs. They're going to pay. We've had, what, 2% tariffs in all these countries? we're putting it up. You know, he busted out that whole chart.
Starting point is 01:12:45 I love my charts. You know, the EU, they're going to pay 39%. Vietnam, they're going to pay 90%. Taiwan, 64%. Japan, 46%, India, 52%. One by one by one by one. They were all paying 2%. So now he basically put it down to what 15% now?
Starting point is 01:13:03 But Rand Paul's right. Because what goes around comes around. And he said to give this example, God forbid, president communist aOC shows up and wants to start implementing a socialist agenda what then all the the the progressors are going to say exactly this what we voted for and all the people with common sense are going to be like uh uh uh uh so i said on the last podcast thank god this was six three and not five four because trump of course is attacking the the judges that did inside with him but what's uh you know article one of the constitution
Starting point is 01:13:39 All legislative powers are granted to the Congress of the United States. They have the power to make the laws, to declare war, which they haven't done since World War II, even though we've been wars all over the world, to levy taxes, which are basically tariffs, and to confirm judges, like you just mentioned, and cabinet members. So totally understand why Rand Paul, where he's coming from, because we respect the rule of law. He basically said in defense of our republic. But I also understand what people are pissed.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Trump's doing the right thing. Trump's basically imposing these reciprocal tariffs. Unfortunately, nobody wants to say the quiet part out loud that this has costed the average American household about a thousand bucks per household. So, you know, you get what you pay for, you know, you're wishful thinking. Prisker came out and said, send this cost the average American $1,700. Send them back $1,700. $1,700. Cut the checks. Here's what's his name had to say. Rob, if you want to go to the Kevin O'Leary, go for it. Great to see you. So this has got to be a pretty big day in your world. What has the reaction been? It's not a great day for me. We were humming along nicely until this morning. Here's what's happening on the ground. I know you've been talking about the politics and the policy, but let's talk about a business making $100 million in sales. It might have paid out $5 million in the last 14 months on these tariffs. They're in my portfolio. I got phone calls. I got phone calls. from our customers, from our lenders because we board against our line of credit, and from our shareholders that we reduce distributions on during this period waiting to settle on the tariffs.
Starting point is 01:15:13 They all want their money back. Now to be compliant, what am I supposed to do? I don't even know how this is going to get filed. It's going to be with Treasury, not the IRS, I assume. So I'm going to try and get a meeting with staffers, best as staffers, when I get to the State of the Union next week, to see if they can give me some guidance, because my head's getting squeezed from the top and the bottom to be compliant. And every business in America is going through this right now.
Starting point is 01:15:39 There are people that want their money back within the distribution shareholder and lender system. And for me, and I'm telling you right now, you're the first to hear it, I'm setting up a resource called WunderTrust.com hiring, if not hundreds, thousands of accountants and lawyers, because I don't know how else to be compliant. And I'm going to use them with my companies who are just, what else are we supposed to do? because everybody wants their money back and i i i wish i don't know what the policy is going to be on that it's it's not a great afternoon for me to be honest with you do you feel like you eat
Starting point is 01:16:11 tom well you see you see the waterfall effect everything's got consequences and so now what they're talking about is is there going to be a tariff refund for all the companies that have paid for that you know that money so in other words let me translate tariff refund folks the government basically Issues money. We used to say print money, but government just takes on more debt, pays everybody back on the tariffs. We take two steps back on balancing the budget. The can gets kicked down the road, and we are sitting there in a worse economic position long term. Trump is trying to turn the corner on this. There's so much to it. And, you know, Kevin O'Leary's right. You know, here he is an investor. He's trying to help companies be compliant with the laws and what they're going to do, and he's going to do. And he's got some people that are screaming, I want my money back. And he's saying, well, then how do we do this? How do we hand it over? Washington doesn't know and doesn't understand what it's doing. The liberal side don't understand the impact they have on American businesses, even though the Supreme Court has ruled the way Rand Paul thought they would rule on the rule of law.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Tariffs are a tax, therefore taxes only come from Congress. End of story. It's such a bigger issue, here about leadership in American and allowing the president to govern. There was a time where we could come together across the aisle where Tip O'Neill would sit with Ronald Reagan and the Rose Garden and have lunch once a week and talk through things for the good of the country. Well, right now you have certain people that are worried about the good of the country and it's a conservative. Yeah, you know, I said this to you this morning, is, and I don't even know what other way to say it. I don't know if Trump's wiring is built for the speed of our system in America.
Starting point is 01:18:08 I don't think it is because... Well, his speed worked negotiating with other countries. It did. But can you imagine like you're working in a company that you're working faster than the company is working? So we're accustomed to the startup environment. If we want to make a decision, how quickly do we make a decision here? Like this, we make a decision. How quickly did we make a decision in Ph.P?
Starting point is 01:18:29 Like this, we make a decision. Change the comp, do this, through that. We're going here. We're doing that, right? Give me the facts. Let's process. Let's go. Now you go to a company.
Starting point is 01:18:37 You've got board approval. You got to go through this. You got, which, by the way, so America's got multiple layers of board. A company typically has one board. Yeah. So you have to go sit down with the board. You got 7, 9, 11 people and say, guys, here's what I think we need to do. Let's vote for it.
Starting point is 01:18:52 I think we make this investment and buy the company for $188 million. $5.4 voting against it. What are you talking about? Here, Congress, then Senate, then... By the way, Rob, can you ask the question, according to the Constitution and our system, if the president did take all the tariffs for the different countries he imposed through Congress and Senate, what is the fastest
Starting point is 01:19:24 and slowest it would take for them to get approved. Do you know what question I'm asking? Each country? Yeah, so I want to know if, okay, great, we follow the system because that's the great thing about America. You're following the system. If we did follow the system, according to the Constitution, what does it say?
Starting point is 01:19:44 Short answer, a president doesn't you need? Because Congress already has delegated part of its authority through existing trade laws. The speed depends on how long. the president. It gives Congress power to regulate commerce and set tariffs, but over decades, Congress passed laws that delegate limited tariff power to the president, which is why the president, I know, but that's the 10 to 15, but I'm talking about above the 15%. You saw the president that just raised it from 10 to 15? Well, says the slow path, new tariffs require full congressional
Starting point is 01:20:12 legislation. We know what's going to happen there. You end up with the inflation bill with a bunch of other crap packed into it. Go lower, Rob, to see what the slow path would be? Keep going lower? slow path. Okay, number one, bill introduced to the House or Senate. Two, committee hearings and markups. Three, majority vote on House. Majority vote on Senate. President signs, realistically months to years. Are you kidding me? Like, what do you? How long did the big beautiful bill take? Do you understand? By the way, can you flip the question and ask, how long, flip the question, copy paste the question, and ask, and just replace it instead of America, put China or Russia. Change the country from U.S. to
Starting point is 01:20:53 China or Russia on how long it would take? 24 hours. Well, that's the point of. China system works very difficult. The fastest and slowestment with tariffs. Who controls the formerly trade and tariffs sits under the state. General of the State Council,
Starting point is 01:21:08 and Customs tariffs on the oversight. Fastest way to administer approval on their authority. If tariffs are framed, how fast, days, two weeks, okay? What about slow? Slowest way, majority and long-term alignment of the RFP. months, sometimes longer, but it doesn't say months or years. So our system, even if he wanted to go
Starting point is 01:21:30 through by the time they get to vote, would be midterms, and then even if it passes through. So all I'm saying is for a person that comes from the business background that's used to dealing with speed, the speed of getting tariffs done is way too slow in America. Way too slow. Do you understand what I'm saying? I totally get it. And it's great. Some would say, thank God it's slow. Some would argue and say, thank God it slow because you know, you're happy when certain
Starting point is 01:22:04 things are fast, but you're like, remember day one, we're going to sign an executive order. We're going to sign an executive order. So then moving forward, you almost have to sit there and think about when a president says, we're about to sign an executive order. You've got to sit there and say, listen, Supreme Court. How's the Supreme Court going to be ruling? Again, it all goes back. to how powerful the Supreme Court is.
Starting point is 01:22:25 The Supreme Court is the Board of Directors. It's the Board of the U.S. Wow. And thank God we have them. Whether we like him or district. I'm telling you. I love it. Remember when Biden wanted to allegedly pack the court?
Starting point is 01:22:39 We're like, what does that mean? What's going to happen here? By the way, you know who looks incredible right now? Maybe the biggest win of his career is Rand Paul. He said it on the PPD podcast. He said, straight up, I expect them to shut this down. because they're going to in defense of our republic.
Starting point is 01:22:55 I'm not saying you're going to agree with them or disagree with them, but he called this. Yes, yes. Okay, let's get to the next thing, guys. Something about the future looking bright 46 years ago on the day, the U.S. hockey team won and they won again yesterday.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Rob, can we show the clip or what is the of the way they scored a goal? Can you show it or no? And kind of you're playing. with fire a little bit, right? They may take our medals away if we do that as well. If you show it on X-pad and we talk over it? Because that goal, it was a three-on-three.
Starting point is 01:23:28 It was on three-on-three. He gives the pass and then all of a sudden, boom. When you hear it, when you hear the club. Celebration, missing tooth. The right way, Rob, this is it. Let a let a rip. Let a rip. We'll return our medals here.
Starting point is 01:23:41 I'll talk a little bit over it. Just lower the audio, maybe. Yeah, here it goes. Just want to celebrate, Rob. Get up. Boom. Let's go, buddy. Teeth all over the freaking ice.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Let's go. There you go. And it was a low wobbler. And by the way, to make it even better against who? Canada. Oh, my God. That's even Justin Trudeau. Two to one and overtime.
Starting point is 01:24:02 Just like the ladies. A week ago. I heard they said they were expecting her first. Rob, can you go to the interview? This fellow did. What's his name? Just go to my Twitter account. If you go to it.
Starting point is 01:24:13 He's lost teeth. He's lost. Dude. Keep going. That's the one right there. Let me get his name right. It's, I want to get his name. or go to his account because I tagged him as well.
Starting point is 01:24:22 Jack Hughes right now. I said, go follow the man. Only $52 followers. Get on that. Go to the clip. Go to the clip wrap. Watch this. I love the USA.
Starting point is 01:24:31 I love my teammates. It's unbelievable. The USA Hockey Brotherhood is so strong. And we had so much support from next players. I'm so proud to be Americans. Let's go. This was such an incredible game to grind out. I mean, you're bleeding right through it, just looking at you right now.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Can you just talk about it? how difficult this gold medal was to win. Unbelievable game by Hellebuck. He was our best player tonight by a mile. Unbelievable game. Unreal game by our team. That's just a ballsy, gutsy win. That's American hockey right there.
Starting point is 01:25:03 Let's go. That's a great Canadian team. But we're USA. We're so proud to be Americans. Tonight was all for the country. I love it. What does this gold medal mean to USA hockey? It's everything.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Like I said, the USA Hockey Brotherhood means so much. Look at these guys. We're in such a team. We've been the average. two weeks. We're such a team. The USA Hockey Brotherhood is so strong. And we're so proud to win to our country. Rob, can you go to the link I just sent you? And Vinny, I'll come to you. In one of the interviews, the two brothers, okay, have you seen this Vinny or no? The two brothers that are being. Yeah, have you seen? No, I haven't seen it. Okay, have you seen this clip?
Starting point is 01:25:39 Rob, make it big. So these brothers, look at them. They're on the team together, but they were interviewed about playing together one day. Look, look what he says. Watch this. Go ahead, Rob. That's that. your brother in the NHL someday. That'd be cool. My preference would be play with him if he's so good. I mean, just to be able to both the three of us. Can you imagine how the parents feel?
Starting point is 01:26:01 That would be unbelievable. Get that right. That's the dream baby. Oh, man. Vity of your thoughts? I absolutely love it. Like, again, I don't, I'm not, I've lost a lot of passion for sports because I personally think it's a big distraction with all the other stuff that's going on.
Starting point is 01:26:18 But when it's something like this and it's a, America winning in this fashion and somebody that's actually proud and on foreign land talking about how great this country is and how amazing this place is. And it feels amazing that it's against Canada. I don't know if you know this, Pat. You know, they were so heartbroken that Canada put their flag at half mass. Did you see this, Adam? This is Canada. Oh, yeah, there is. Flag at half mass. Is that really their flag? Yeah, that's the Canadian flag. They changed it. They're upset because they're so upset. But I mean. Well, I mean, it would just a lot. I can see that being his flag.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Yeah, well, Justin is, yeah. But by the way, for what it's worth, since some people, rumored speculating, him and Katie Perry are expecting a baby. Congratulations. Congratulations. Who's the one that's pregnant? She's pregnant.
Starting point is 01:27:02 Oh, it's her? Okay, cool. Just double-checking. But no, but I think it's a great, great one. We have the women's that won, and now we have the men that one. What is a woman? If you ask Canadians, they don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:12 But no, I think it's great. And I think what a classy move. And the fact that the president called them, did you see how long that speed? Oh, wait, Rob, which is the plot? Can you, you know, one of their teammates died in a car accident, and there's the teammates go and grab their kids, his kids, and bring them on to the ice.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Stop. Rob, if you can find, look, this is, you want to talk about tears? This guy, play this, Rob. Dylan Larkin and Zach Werensky have gone into the stands to go get Johnny's kids. They're going to come out now. And they bring their kids out. Take the photo with them. With the gold.
Starting point is 01:27:49 battle team oh my this is johnny godrow he played a long time for the calgary flames and he died he died in his brother were um cycling they were struck by a drunk driver drunk driver he was only about 30 at the time and these are his kids out there he played with u.s a national team and he was one of the most successful players in u.s national team history wow wow that's so beautiful that's so amazing by the way don't you don't you just see this and say i'm so proud to represent you to buy your jersey, to have your kids want to wear it, to have your kids celebrate guys like this. These are the people that we need to turn into heroes, man. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:28:28 How amazing is this story? Unbelievable. Adam, your thoughts on this. Well, I feel bad for Canada. You know, this is a religion in Canada hockey. And they just can't figure it out. By the way, if you go to the NHL, I know we went to the Stanley Cup to a few games. The last five Stanley Cups, two have been won by Florida Panthers.
Starting point is 01:28:46 I think Colorado and Vegas won. and then Tampa Bay on that. So Florida dominates the NHL. Speaking of the NHL, when's the last time? Canada invented hockey. This is their religion. This is our baseball, basketball, and football,
Starting point is 01:29:02 all combined into hockey. Okay, you know the last time a Canadian team won? 30 years ago, it was the Montreal Canadians. They won in 1993. The majority of our players in the USA team weren't even born yet. The team that originated Canadian hockey was the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Starting point is 01:29:20 The last time they won was 1967. And that's been, who was alive in 67? None of us. Tom, where you were you born? Yes, I was. Okay, Tom was there. It's the longest drought in NHL history. So to say that this is like just the icing on the cake to how great of America is,
Starting point is 01:29:42 and Canada is just weird and woke. First, you're rubbing it in. That Canada has a one. Then you ask his age. You know his family's Canadian. You know the issue with age. I mean, it's like at least to one, not the double. I was just wondering if you remembers the game.
Starting point is 01:29:58 That's all I wanted to know. I'm going to transition to a different story. Tom, I'm going to come to you with this one. It's going to be California. So California, by the way, the governor came out and publicly his campaign, I think, is called 960 because he told in front of a group of African Americans that he got an SAT score. 960 and that he's not smart like everybody. And he says if his speeches were written, he wouldn't be able to do it.
Starting point is 01:30:24 And the only thing he was missing in this video is a hot sauce in his pocket to pull out and say that he carries with himself all the time. But that's somebody else's schick. Rob, go on and play this clip. Go for it. I'm not, you know, I'm not trying to impress you. I'm just trying to impress upon you. I'm like you. I'm no better than you.
Starting point is 01:30:45 You know, I'm a 960 SAT. guy. And you know, and I'm not trying to offend anyone, you know, trying to act all there if you got 940. Oh my God. Literally a 960 SAT guy. I cannot, you've never seen me read a speech because I cannot read a speech. This may be the wrong business to be. What is he talking? Okay. Can we, in this? room, whatever you're doing at your house, you're in your garage, you're making coffee. Do you understand? A white man is in Georgia sitting on stage with a black man who is the mayor, Andre Dickens, and he's basically slowing down his speech and saying, like, I'm dumb like y'all.
Starting point is 01:31:36 Like, I barely pass the SATs because I'm dumb like y'all. This is the Joe Biden, if y'all don't need to decide whether you need to vote for me or Trump, you ain't black. And I'm, I'm, I'm at my wits end with the black people that are out there in that room and all across the Charlemagne, the gods and all these losers. Like, when are you going to step up and say this is absolutely appalling and it's racist? And I hate to be the guy to be like, if it was the other side, but if it was the other side, if a government, name a Republican governor. Go ahead, Tom. Name a Republican governor.
Starting point is 01:32:11 Desantis. If DeSantis was on stage with a black mayor from Georgia and was like, man, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm like y'all. And he's thrown in the, like he's a preacher, like a black preacher. Where is the outrage? Where's the outrage? You don't think he was being sincere? No, this is pandering.
Starting point is 01:32:26 Hold on. This is racist pandering. You don't think this is sincerity, Tom? But it drives me crazy. Think about it. Schumer and the Democratic Party don't think black people know how to get an ID to vote. Kathy Hochel, remember when she said black kids from the Bronx, don't know what a computer is. And then with Joe Biden and now this guy.
Starting point is 01:32:44 And the black community is quite. How are you sitting on the sideline? If Pat, if I was black and I was in that crowd, I would have stood up and be like, wait, wait, what are you talking about? I would have been kicked out of that room. I would have been kicked out. But beyond pandering, Tom, he's basically saying, guys, I'm stupid too. You're stupid.
Starting point is 01:33:03 I'm stupid. I don't know how to read like you got, no, Adam, that's basically what he's saying is, hold on, let me do the leg fold, because his crotch is gone. He's like, I'm, I'm from the hood. I'm stupid. I'm stupid. You know what I mean? Like, y'all, I don't know how to read a speech. So you mean to tell me the governor of California can't read? That's what he's saying. If you can't read a speech, you can't read anything.
Starting point is 01:33:27 And I'm sorry for me. Pat, it drives me crazy because none of them say anything. Let me show you a clip in and Adam, Tom. I'm going to come to you guys. Rob, show the clip when the reporter is asking him about cost of living in California and how he answers. Go ahead, Rob. This is CNN. California has the highest cost of living. in the nation, the state's prices are 11% higher than the national average. We were actually out to dinner here in Nashville last night. We met a couple from California.
Starting point is 01:33:55 They moved out of California because they couldn't afford the rent or even to buy a home and also start a family. Yeah, we've had hundreds of thousands of people move in California. The last two, three years, we've seen population growth. As you know, we moved from six to the fourth largest economy in the world. Dominate. Now, in every key industry from AI quantum robotics, we dominate an ag. We common force.
Starting point is 01:34:16 But people are struggling to do four things like your mom was. Oh, she dropped the mom thing. But, but, and again, professional. You have to give, like, he's such a good serpent in the grass. He knows the exact, by the way, I even forgot what the question was. Because he's like, we're dominating. I'm using my hands. Look at my hands.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Don't look at the lies that are coming out of the mouth, out of my mouth. He's the future. He's the future of their party, Tom. Him and the Mamdani's and the AOCs. Tom. That's them. Beware. The pandering makes me sick.
Starting point is 01:34:49 The pandering has gone on from the Democrats for a long time. And when African Americans and people go out there and express independence, you know, Stephen E. Smith is not out there screaming like a conservative, but he takes a moderate point of view and he's calling things out that he doesn't like. And there are some that do it. But suddenly they call you names. Oh, you're betraying us or you're going the other way. They're expected to stay in lockstep.
Starting point is 01:35:16 In lockstep voting for people that pander to you like this, in lockstep to a guy that comes in there. You have to remember Obama did it too because Obama didn't have street cred with the African Americans in America. When he would come and give speeches, he didn't have the cred. And if you look at some of these speeches, he started dropping his ars and talking with that. Don't do the hard hour, Tom. Yeah. Talking with this tone and everything. You know, I'm one of y'all and down. And it's like, it's just pandering.
Starting point is 01:35:47 It's absolute pandering. And they're waking up. The voters are waking up. There are African Americans that are waking up. They're thinking for themselves that are saying, listen, I will not be automatically assumed to be your voting block. I'm there. And we've seen it moving election by election. And I hope that the, look, the numbers are screaming.
Starting point is 01:36:06 They used to hold 92% of the African American vote. It was less than that. in this last election with Trump. I don't have the number handy. I wish I did. But that's exactly what you're seeing. And this is racist and just insidious pandering here. It really makes me sick.
Starting point is 01:36:25 And remember, to those you in the African-American community, ask yourself a question, where has it improved? I'm going to give you this. Have you got it? I'm going to do this for you. Have you got it? As I've said before, these folks in Planned Parenthood have run a black genocide upon you through abortion. If you take a look at the number of aborted babies and you go back and you look at it, 14% of our population, proud African American citizens, 40% of the abortions. Why is that?
Starting point is 01:36:56 Because they want that. Yep. They want that. And if that hadn't happened, low it be the size of the African American community in America. What would be the size of that? 2530%? Would they have tolerated being used at the voting booth and then giving nothing at the legislative cycle to improve schools, communities, opportunities? No, they wouldn't. And Obama wouldn't have been the first African-American president. He would have been the second or third. Thurgood Marshall's son would have been the first, in my view.
Starting point is 01:37:25 Bingo. Adam. Yeah, well, let's make racism great again. You know, every, you know, we see in the NFL, we're going to end racism. So there's two types of racism. There's the open, overt racism, which, to be honest with you, I'm better with, because you just come out and say it, bro. Say how you feel.
Starting point is 01:37:43 Then there's the other racism, which is like the low-key racism, which I believe George W. Bush called the soft bigotry of low expectations. Remember that? You know, he had a few famous quotes. You know, fool me wants, can't get food. The turrets. The turrets. But the soft bigotry of low expectations.
Starting point is 01:38:00 What are the soft bigotty of low expectations? I don't expect a lot from you. I have very low standards from you. So if you don't excel, if you don't have a high performance, if you don't excel and succeed, it's because it's who you are. And then becomes a self-fulfilling cycle of, of course you're not going to do good.
Starting point is 01:38:19 Of course you're not going to succeed. Bless you. Bless you. Bless you. Wow. Bless you. Bless you. Then you're going to carry tobacco in your purse.
Starting point is 01:38:27 Then you're going to say that you ain't black if you want vote for me. So then Gavin Newsome, who's trying to appeal to the black vote goes, I'm dumb too, y'all. I get a 960. I can't even read. That part I believe. And look at me lead. I believe the 960. Can't even lead.
Starting point is 01:38:42 Tom, what did you get on your SAT? When I took it, 11, 120. So you're not even that smart? I did better than you. Be honest, Vinnie. Unbelievable. What'd you get? Anamudu Bach.
Starting point is 01:38:55 And I'm behind. Be honest, what'd you get? It was not good. What was yours? Probably like eight something. Okay. What was yours? 1220.
Starting point is 01:39:05 You got 1220. Damn. You got 12. When I cheated, bro. Because a lot of Asian kids in my class. Vinny, you and I are right next to him. what I'm saying, talk. But this is.
Starting point is 01:39:13 But let me tell, I got us, you know what my SATs got me scholarship to Glenda Community College? Really? Yeah. Full right. I mean, if it wasn't for that, then you wouldn't- But by the way, can you imagine at this table? Adam got a better SAT scored than Tom. Well, Tom fell asleep.
Starting point is 01:39:27 By the way, Tom's daughter got a 1560 out of 1600. Bailey got like, you know what that means? She got like one or two wrong. Those that can't do teach and Tom taught his daughters well. Oh, there we go. All right. There's a joke, buddy. It's a joke.
Starting point is 01:39:41 Don't get red. There we go. Don't get red, Tom. You know what? It's okay. Tom, it's okay. I meet you with the SATs. Are you ready?
Starting point is 01:39:48 Let's get Babs on the podcast and have her tell you the amazing story of how upset they were. Because I stayed out late. I fell asleep during the last section of the SAT. It's a true story. Well, I have a story about my SAT, but I'm not going to get into it. Why do you fall asleep during the SATs? Do you think you're better than the SATs? I did an abacadab.
Starting point is 01:40:10 I just put abacadab. to me, I nailed math. But to me, I was like, I'm out with English. We were playing spades with my Armenian crew. And I think right after taking SATs a month or two later, I joined the army. But go ahead, you were telling me. Well, speaking of black culture,
Starting point is 01:40:27 I remember you told this story. I think you were in DC. And you saw these sharp dressed black men coming out in suits looking like a million bucks. They were like the young. Yes, yes. Who were those guys? They were young, young, loyal.
Starting point is 01:40:41 lawyers, African-American women and men looking amazing. I went and I said, what are you guys doing here? What year was that? This was 10 years ago, nine years ago. So what are we right now? We're still in 2026. It would be 15, 2015. So 2015?
Starting point is 01:41:00 Yes. So Obama's the president. Black lawyers. I assume they were. Yes. You know, this was in D.C.? Or where was this? It could have been Chicago or D.C.
Starting point is 01:41:07 All right. So let's go there. Yeah. I've seen what you've done with PHP. I mean, black, white, Latino, Asian, Filipino, Matzabon, the whole, do everybody dressed like a million bucks. Imagine if you said, hey, guys, white people dressing suits, Latino guys do that. Black guys, don't worry.
Starting point is 01:41:27 Sag your pants. It's okay. Don't worry. It's the soft bigotry of low expectations. You have high standards. You say meet the standard to get the hell out. And every single one of your guys, whether it's Chris Hart, whether it's suazo, whatever, whoever we're talking about,
Starting point is 01:41:43 all look, act, and play the part, and they deserve it, and everything that they've received, they've earned. So there's no low expectations when it comes to us, and that, unfortunately, is how Gavin Newsom sees black people. Well, let's go to this, Rob. Do you have the clip of the mayor of California being questioned by the reporter? Do you have that clip, Rob? I do.
Starting point is 01:42:05 Okay, play the clip. Watch this here, folks. Okay. This is an issue now, especially since it has rained and we've seen so many of them. What are you going to do about it? That's right. Well, and let me just tell you, we are fixing them. And in the last three months, we fixed over 10,000 potholes. And in the last couple of weeks, we fixed almost 300.
Starting point is 01:42:28 So we are going to continue doing that until all the potholes are fixed. And what we're doing here is asking people to report on 311 when they receive a pothole because we certainly don't want cars damaged. Our people to be, you know, have difficulty with that. Now, we saw you fill a pothole with asphalt here just a few minutes ago. And you're encouraging people to call 311. But guess what? We know people. I work with people who've called 311.
Starting point is 01:42:56 Nothing happened. The pothole was never repaired. They called several times over a couple of months. What do you have to say about that? Let me just tell you that in the last two months, three months, we have fixed over 10,000. We have a lot more to fix, but I think this is a reflection of decades of lack of investment in our infrastructure, and we are definitely addressing that. You talk about that.
Starting point is 01:43:18 I mean, we spend so much less here in L.A. than other cities do. For example, New York or San Diego, San Francisco. And we haven't repaved a single city street here since last summer. Well, let me just say that we have much more we need to do, which is why I've been developing. So you can pause right this. Sounds like a politician, you know, lip service. But by the way, who is the guy? Who was the guy? We have to recognize that guy. Can we get his name? I don't know where he lies politically. I'm sure he voted for her. Can you go to him and just give credit for him asking, can we just recognize the guy's name, Rob?
Starting point is 01:43:55 Do we know who the reporter is? That's the independent station in L.A. KTLA 5. I mean, I'm familiar with KTLA. You and I live there, so we know KTLA. But who was the KTLA guy that interviewed him? I just want to recognize the guy because he deserves credit. Eric Spillman. Can you go to his account?
Starting point is 01:44:15 Eric Spillman, KTLA. That's the guy? Okay, go, can we learn a little bit about this guy? Go to his link Wikipedia or is there anything that we can learn. go to his profile right there. Zoom in. Eric Spillelman, originally, Ketielan Morning News.
Starting point is 01:44:31 I've been started a program in July of 1991. Show, David, he began reporting. Well, he said, well, under shift to the JDA. He sold the string of a story to AP about a Berkeley, Berkeley professor who won a Nobel Prize in Physics. That report for which he was paid $25 was the beginning.
Starting point is 01:44:44 And he graduated English literature. Yeah, he's definitely a liberal. But guess what? San Luis Obispo, beautiful right down to speak from Moro, hey, whoever you are, respect. Yep. You're asking a question that we're wondering. And, you know, I applaud you for doing what you're doing.
Starting point is 01:44:58 Good for you. All right, let's get to the next door here. Next door I want to get to is I have a clip I want to play to you guys, two clips that I'm going to wait until the end. It's about fathers and daughter, father and son relationship and Anthony Hopkins that I don't think you've seen this club. You guys seen this club? Tom, have you seen it? Tom, have you seen the clip with Anthony Hopkins? I can't wait for you to see it.
Starting point is 01:45:20 And I want to have a little bit of conversation with it. But while we're in California, on this topic of California, for some, you know, Some of you guys that are not for Gavin Newsom, I have a vote for you. Katie Porter, guys, she's a freaking rock star. And she's back. Yes. She is back with a vengeance. Can you imagine she's been controlling all that anger and rage and it's not good to keep it?
Starting point is 01:45:44 It's not. You got to let it out. In California, if you're looking for a hardcore liberal candidate that believes in her crazy ideas, but she's got that temper, that rage. that is very fit for TV. You cannot let an opportunity like this go away without her getting more TV time. Here's the great Katie Porter.
Starting point is 01:46:05 Go ahead, Rob. Simple, powerful message that we can all agree on. This is her campaign. Go off her office. One, two. But you know Gavin's in the crowd, man, me and my brothers, we don't know how to read, woman. Wait, wait, no, no.
Starting point is 01:46:26 What does that say, woman? You ask a question. By the way, this is not a joke, folks. Billions and billions and dollars from the federal government. So she gets elected governor, taking Gavin Newsom's spot because he's leaving to run for president. So how does she work with the president? You need to get relief. You need to get that. By the way, we also know that they got $21 billion recently for homelessness that they basically stole from the federal government and now they're taxing their own businesses
Starting point is 01:46:55 on it. But what do you do? How do you do that? Pat, where's the logic? Where's the logic of running a message like that. Could you say logic, Tom? Logic? That's not a word. They know how to, where's a logic? You've got to say, where's the emotion? Like, that's emotion.
Starting point is 01:47:11 Look at their, like, if you think about their, just look at the, just from those two clips from her and Gavin, okay, pandering to a black crowd and basically saying, I'm dumb like y'all. Her message is, I'm running for California governor F. Trump. That's all they have, guys. Zero. And then when you ask the governor, the sitting governor who's sitting there, about how horrible the state is. You know, he says, no, no, we're actually number four and this.
Starting point is 01:47:35 And look at my hands. They have nothing, Pat. They have nothing. Remember, it's all anti-Trump. And I mentioned this at the beginning. I'm sorry, when we were in the back, I keep hearing this thing left and right. Every time you guys you hear left or right, and we talked about this. I saw this on the Internet.
Starting point is 01:47:51 In the Bible, there's over 3,000 years ago, it said, in Ecclesiastes 10, chapter 10, verse 2, the heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Stop being fooled by these people, these leftists, these people that don't care about you, they don't care about the freaking country. It's about power and it's about all about them.
Starting point is 01:48:13 Mind you, she's going to be the governor. You know that she's the frontrunner. Is she the front runner? Where's Calci? She's going to be. Who is this lady, by the way? No, I'm saying Kim, I was saying Kim Porter.
Starting point is 01:48:24 Katie, whatever. She's the same person. So there's an Iowa Senate campaign ad that is basically the same message as Katie Porter. The entire commercial is. Is this a commercial? Yeah, this is an ad. It's not running on television. It's running online due to the language.
Starting point is 01:48:40 Fuck Trump. Oh my God. Vote Giuliana. Fuck Trump. Vote Giuliana. Fuck Trump. Vote Giuliana. They said it not me.
Starting point is 01:48:48 I'm Juliana Stratton and I'm proud to have lived my whole life on the south side of Chicago. I'm not scared of a wannabe dictator. I'm running for Senate to stand up to Donald Trump. I'll abolish ICE and hold Trump accountable for the crimes he's committed, just like they said, fuck Trump. Fuck Trump. Fuck Trump. Vote Giuliana.
Starting point is 01:49:08 That's why I approved this message. They were both robbed two minutes after this video. What is she running for exactly? Senator in Illinois. Senate, Senator of Illinois. Rob, can you go to Calci? State or federal? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:49:18 Can you go to Calci? Why do you ask? No, I'm just wondering. Like, go to Calci, California governor to see who's at the time? Cal Shee, Gavin Usum, Green, Swalwell is at the time. Oh, God, no. Where's Katie Porter? Go a little bit lower?
Starting point is 01:49:35 She, I don't think she's on the list at all, but she's right there 5%. Guys, we got work to do. So she's not anywhere close. She's a woman, she's going to get up there. Matt Mahan, Steve Hilton, and you got a few of Chad Bianco. By the way, I'd like to see Chad Bianco get more and more momentum. She'll win. Chad Bianco is somebody that has a good ideas, good policies.
Starting point is 01:50:00 Hopefully he'll get some momentum getting up there. Oh, Adam, thoughts. He's got no chance. He's a Republican. So unless his name is the governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican has no chance in California. And this is what happens when you have a one-party state. You know, a lot of people say that, you know, United States Congress, we're living in a unit party. It's a unip party.
Starting point is 01:50:20 Everyone is the unit party. They fight, but behind closed doors, they're on the same team. That's what it is. We're looking at what a one-party state will do. So, you know, what's the difference between California and China or California and Russia? There's not a lot because when it's one party, they're in control. That's it. You can pretend to do stuff.
Starting point is 01:50:44 You can pretend to be a Republican and try to win. Republican has no chance. When's the last time a Republican did anything meaningful in California? is it a Schwarzenegger? Is that when it happened? I don't know. I don't know. But you remember when it was one of the monarchs in UAE was basically saying comparing UAE to the United States. And it's like, we've got all this, United States has this.
Starting point is 01:51:12 We have got all this, United States has this. But here we have one party. And that's a challenge. Because if you fall out of line and fall out of favor with the party, that's it. At least in the United States, you have a two-party system. California has a one-party system, and unfortunately, a Republican has no chance, and didn't they do something with the gerrymandering and everything like that and the redistricting in California? It made it even worse. So I don't see California getting better anytime soon.
Starting point is 01:51:41 Yeah, I mean, it's not going to help if they do the gerrymandering and become 48 to 4. It's a losing proposition for two states that they want to lock up the left and the right is California. California and Texas. They don't even want it to be a discussion and they're doing the same thing. They're both gerrymandering, but we'll see. We'll see what I happen. We'll see what it happened with California. Let me get to the next door here until we get into, let's go to Mamdani. Folks, when it comes down to IDs, you need IDs to be able to shovel and not just one, to shovel snow in New York, but you don't need IDs when you're voting, guys. Let's get it straight. I mean, shoveling is a lot more important task. We need to verify these people, not voting, right?
Starting point is 01:52:22 I mean, the common sense stuff, just the kind of stuff that people say, well, let me just listen to this. Rob, is this the clip of the reporter asking questions? Do you also have the link showing what is required of him before first play this clip? And then we'll go to what it says on their site. There's been this controversy over the snow laborers and the sort of what some see is onerous, need to have documentation. Can you just talk about if that's new and would you make of the controversy? This is all longstanding. This is a longstanding program and longstanding requirements, and this is a way that New Yorkers get paid to shovel snow in assistance with the city's
Starting point is 01:53:10 response to a winter storm event. Federal law requires that employers get authorization and documentation to pay people for their work. We are not allowed to just cut check. to individuals for their work. And these are the policies that we've had in place, but I understand that for many, it's the first time that they've ever heard about it. So what is that, Rob? If you can go to, there's a picture from their site
Starting point is 01:53:34 that says you need right there. Okay, zoom in a little bit if you could. To be eligible, you have to be 18. To register for an appointment, workers must have two small photos, two original forms of ID plus copies, and Social Security cards. I mean, people can't find their Social Security card.
Starting point is 01:53:55 Gavin Newsom, the other, they say, you need passports. He can't even find his passport. Why are you making it so difficult to do this yet you want to make it easy to vote? That's the question. Adam, did you send that one clip of that girl to Rob? If you want to pull up the one that Adam sent you, I haven't seen this yet. There's this clip by a great influencer Lizzie Savetsky giving her take on what's going on. Go ahead, Rob.
Starting point is 01:54:17 The big snowstorm coming today is and our mayor says that we need emergency If you'd like to sign up to be a paid snow shoveler, you can go to any DSNY garage from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. tomorrow on Sunday. So there she goes. I saw that the mayor said that we were supposed to report for duty between 8 a.m. and 1 p.m. today for emergency snow shoveling? Yeah, not yet. I think the earliest that we can put you out there is 8 p.m. tonight. It's $1.m. tonight. I think it's actually higher now. I believe it's $30.00.
Starting point is 01:54:47 If I have a snowblower and I can do the work of three to four people. Can I get paid more? I thought we could just tax the rich. Need two forms of ID? What happens if I only have one? You need two forms to sign up. It's so funny. One from this side and one from this side. It's so interesting because they want to tell us we don't need ID to vote, but we need two forms of ID to shovel, you know?
Starting point is 01:55:08 Do I need to print the photos out? I have to print those. What if I don't have a printer? What if I don't have a printer? Okay, thank you. We got here, our marriage... Yeah, shout out to Lizzie's for exposing the ridiculous. ridiculousness. That is Mamdani. So, Vinny, your thoughts. Your thoughts with Mamdani and what's going on in New York here?
Starting point is 01:55:27 I have a lot. I have so much going on. Like, and I, can I piggyback on top of it with what they were doing, too? I think it's, it's, if you can't see, as last week when I said, we told you so and now it's happening in real time. Not saying that we're right on everything, but how, when has it ever work. The hypocrisy of saying I'm a sanctuary city, bring the kids, free this, free that, and now this is happening. And it shows how ridiculous and how much of a liar this guy is. I don't know if you guys want to come back to what you guys have to say. Did you guys see what happened in Times Square this past couple days, Rob? I forgot what day it was. But they shut down Times Square. A bunch of Muslims went there, Sneako, your boy was there, playing in the
Starting point is 01:56:16 middle of the city, okay? Mind you, before Rob plays this, there's a Muslim guy in this video proclaiming they are taking over the city and chance, Allah, Akbar, and everybody comes in. And just to let you guys all know, this is them planting a flag, okay? This is them saying, we're here. It's asserting dominance. Robbie, can you please play this and tell me if this makes anybody feel comfortable? And mind you, this is 20 minutes away from where the world trade is and where Islamists flew Who planes into the world trade and killed over 30 some hundred Americans? Same religion. Okay?
Starting point is 01:56:51 Play this video real quick. Yeah, make some notice on the border right now, baby. Mashallah. Yeah. Mashal-ah, yeah. Thufi! Oh, don't scare them, brothers. Relax.
Starting point is 01:57:04 They're over here on purpose to be like, oh, my God. Who's seen those videos where they're like, oh, my God, the Muslims are taking over New York. So you seen those? Yeah. You've seen those? Let them know that we are taking over in New York City. Thabeed!
Starting point is 01:57:16 Thabee! Oh, my God. When people, what was it, Maya Angelou? When people tell you who they are, believe them the first time. They're not hiding, guys. So for everybody that's like, oh, we're America. We're open for culture. BS.
Starting point is 01:57:31 Take that nonsense and go to the Middle East and do it. Go to Saudi Arabia. Go to Qatar. Go to wherever the hell it is. Pat, I'm so uncomfortable with that. And it's becoming clear with Mamdani what his focus is in, because he's failing at every single thing, Every metric you see him.
Starting point is 01:57:48 He lied about the promises. The streets are filled with trash and filth and poop. There's videos of that. He looks lost during severe weather where the homeless people are dying because he doesn't know how to do it. He's so unmanaged, yet he keeps happening. Is Islamic prayer? Is Islamic this? It's speaking Arabic in front of people.
Starting point is 01:58:06 That's what he's doing. Okay? And there's a difference, okay? As Christians in the Bible, Matthew 6, 6. Pray in private. You go in a room. I have my moments with God every single morning and every single morning. and every single night, it's you.
Starting point is 01:58:18 You don't show it. You don't show off. You don't say, hey, everybody, look at how religious and how cool I am. It's about humility. It's about your relationship in your heart. Okay, you're not flexing in the street to let people know, oh, this is who I am and this is what we are. That's a battle call, okay, what he's doing.
Starting point is 01:58:34 Okay, shutting down Times Square, I'm not a fan of it at all, Pat. And again, when he's saying, oh, they're scared like we're taking over. We are taking over, and we keep letting this crap happening, and it's going to keep happening and keep happening. There's parts of Brooklyn where they're playing in the street on loudspeaker. Like, where are we? What are we talking about? The horn signaling the call the prayer.
Starting point is 01:58:58 A Trump supporter showed up to this. Go ahead, Rob. I think Freedom News, I don't know what we played. Moly and me. I think, Rodney, last time we played Freedom News, it gave us a strike. Okay, then, don't do it. Don't do it. Jim, I don't understand the problem with Muslim taking over New York City.
Starting point is 01:59:11 What's the problem with that? No, no, no. I'm not. What do you mean? Well, at least let me show you where he went to pray. Yeah, I look at the guys, invitation. Go ahead, Rob. This is Mamdani when he went to a mosque.
Starting point is 01:59:21 It's called the Al-G-G-Islamic Center in Queens, cited by the DOJ in sanctions cases, telling worshippers it was privileged to be there as the first Muslim mayor. Go ahead and play the clip wrap. And then... Last Ramadan, I was with many of you here at the procession. February 20, 2020. ...myrd anniversary of Imam Ali, Allahe-Salae.
Starting point is 01:59:45 It is a privilege to be here with you once again. I stand before you as the first Muslim mayor in our city's history. And this year as the first Jumma that I have attended in that new position. And to do so together, it is a reminder that in this month of Ramadan, as we find moments of reflection. You can pause this right there, Rod. And then do me in favor. Go to the last 15 seconds.
Starting point is 02:00:12 Go to the last 15 seconds of go right there. Just read the words, folks. And the way, did it just saying the killing of infidels by your sword? Yes, it did. Did it just say the same place he went and the prayer says, and the killing of infidels by your sword? Yeah. Huh.
Starting point is 02:00:34 What's wrong with that, though? It's peaceful. No, but here's a thing. No, no, no. I don't understand what you guys are trying to do right now. I have to say something. You're trying to say that they can't assert their dominance, that they can't kill infidels with their sword.
Starting point is 02:00:44 What are you trying to say exactly? My thing is this public. Let them do what they want to do all over the United States. No, no, no, no. I've been saying this since they want. In Deerborn in New York City and Houston, let them take over. Adam, it's a public. I don't care what you say.
Starting point is 02:00:56 Public display of power. Don't pretend that it's the same thing with what we do as Christians, okay? They're not. One is humility before God. Let me finish. One is humility before. Can I finish Adam? Yes, sorry.
Starting point is 02:01:09 One is humility before God. The other is dominance in a public square. Okay. Praying before a meal, normal, I do it. Nobody, nobody cares. But when you take the most iconic intersections in America and you turn it into like a victory rally, that sends a message.
Starting point is 02:01:24 Faith is one thing's force presence. It's another. And I don't care. Everybody, I know people are going to come at me. Go ahead. Message me and death threat me about, oh, but America's, no, no, no, no, excuse me. This is a Christian nation, okay?
Starting point is 02:01:38 Shutting stuff down to pray for your freaking God. I'm not a fan of that, okay? period, period. And the Bible warned us about this false prophet stuff. It's not, we were warned. Go ahead, Tom. Are we going to say something? No, you're absolutely right.
Starting point is 02:01:53 We were warned. We were warned about, you know, compromise. That when you compromise beliefs and you compromise that the one that's compromised is you, you think you're compromising for the other side to be nice, to be friendly, to be accommodating, to be magnanimous, you're not. What you're compromising is yourself. and this is what we get. And it comes in.
Starting point is 02:02:16 This is history repeating itself. The flaw of mankind have done this over and over, and we've seen thriving societies diluted through compromise, that they think, oh, we're just being nice to people, and this is where you end up. It's a slippery slope, and you slide down it. And Tom, if you think about it, that was his main goal. You want to talk about a Trojan horse,
Starting point is 02:02:37 that smile, that touching on the chest. He is failing at everything, but he is winning. in that, Tom. Shutting down Times Square as a New Yorker is a spit in the face to everybody there. Are you can, and then by the way, there was Christians, I saw like five videos
Starting point is 02:02:52 of Christians trying to be there, pan record, and they were bullying the Christians. Like trying to fight the Christians. Are you freaking, what? What? No, I'm not cool with that. I'm not cool with that at all, bro. Go to your, go in your mosque and do what you're gonna do,
Starting point is 02:03:04 blocking intersection and interfering with people's lives and then yelling at Christians who are just there to witness what you guys are doing. I don't play that. And I'm sorry. I'm not a fan of that at all. Vinny, I think you need to be a little bit more tolerant. No, no.
Starting point is 02:03:16 I think you need to accept them that they say that they're a religion of peace. You have to believe them. Don't worry about that they want to kill infidels. There's no examples of them exploding and killing people. Stop it, Vinnie. It's obnoxious. Listen, there's a, Rob, can you show that one clip on the reason why people fear the picture, not the clip that I sent you?
Starting point is 02:03:40 Can we fact check this, Rob? The second one right there from Babylon B. Groundbreaking new study finds Islamophobia maybe partially caused by Muslims killing people all the time. And by the way, I'm not saying this is correct because I don't know if Babylon B is, you know, how serious they are about this.
Starting point is 02:03:57 But go ahead, Adam. I just, for me, it's a religion of peace. You can't tell me anything otherwise. You can show me thousands of examples. You can show me 9-11. You can show me ISIS and al-Qaeda. I'm going to anchor to my belief system that they are the best people in the world.
Starting point is 02:04:11 But let me shift gears and let me follow the money for a second, if you don't mind. Go forward. So, yes, we can go there on the religious side. But let's talk money for a second with this guy, Mom Dani. You know, my favorite guy on CNN, I know it still exists, is other than Scott Jennings, Farid Zakaria. For Reid Zakaria, who's frequently criticizes Trump, went ham on the big blue states, Democratic states. Here's what he said. He said, the big blue cities are out of control, promising more, spending more, delivering less,
Starting point is 02:04:40 and pushing off fiscal problems to some future day. That's, uh, for Reid Zakari, you're saying this. He said, Democrats in city halls should stop governing as if it's a goal to announce new entitlements and instead make government work. Now here's what he said about New York City, which is like the crown jewel of government bloat. Number one, their budget right now, which we talked about the other day, $127 billion just in New York City alone, which is the size of some small countries like Greece and Thailand. That's number one. Number two, under Mayor Bloomberg, which was as soon as,
Starting point is 02:05:16 as recent as 2013, I want to say. So 13 years ago, it's 127 billion now. Take a guess what it was under Bloomberg? 70 billion. Okay, so almost double in the last 13 years. So if you want to talk supply and demand, whichever they comes down to, pre-COVID, there was 8.8 million people living in New York City. 8.8. Everyone fled, the rich left, whoever can afford the hell to leave. They're all living in Miami, their Florida, wherever they went. It bottomed down at what? 8356. 835. Okay, so that's how many people left? Over a half a million people, Pat? Is that right? So now in 2025, this is at the end of 2024, 2025, they still haven't gotten up to pre-pagdemic levels. What's my point? Everything comes down to supply and demand. So if there's less people and your budget,
Starting point is 02:06:08 budget is more, guess who's going to have to pay more taxes? The people living there right now. That's why you have those black guys last week. They're like, oh, hell no, bro. We voted for you, but I didn't think you would tax us more. Who do you think they're going to tax, buddy? It's not just going to be the rich. It's going to be the homeowners. It's going to be everybody else. Then, here's another example, if you want to show this, the cost of education. Just to educate our kids, you know how much they're spending per child in New York City? 35 grand per child. Dude, that's the price of a nice
Starting point is 02:06:40 private school in Miami. Maybe 50, but you'll get there. So $42 billion just goes to educating kids. 35 grand a kid. Now, if you want to show this last piece, this is what a high earner has to pay in New York. We understand
Starting point is 02:06:56 that California is at what? 13%. Tom did the math last week. He said, Adam, you forgot about not only the state, but the city tax as well, and the personal income tax. so you're paying as much as 55%. That's what you're paying in the EU. And by the way, in the EU, you get universal health care and free college.
Starting point is 02:07:15 At what point are New Yorkers going to say, what are we paying for at this point? Unbelievable. And the coup de grace right here is, I don't know if I sent you this, New York City has the highest marginal corporate tax rate. So even companies are paying 17.4%. At what point are people going to say, I'm done with this. I'm moving to Miami. Come on down. The weather's fine. You know what's pretty bad, that was great, the numbers you went through.
Starting point is 02:07:44 You know what's bad when Wapo's editorial board mocks Mamdani for facing harsh reality less than two months later. When Wapo goes after you, Wapo goes after you, you're doing some wrong. So this is going to continue. You're the people that laid off hundreds of people. And I hope Mamdani succeeds. I hope Mamdani succeeds. and he keeps pushing his stuff because, again, sometimes people need a reality check to realize what's possible
Starting point is 02:08:11 and what could come to a city near you, this guy here is doing it to the number one city in America for capitalism. If he does it to that city, what are the cities you think you can do it to? Any other cities? Let me get to the next story. What's that?
Starting point is 02:08:25 What's coming up this July in America? World Cup. No, it's our 250th birthday. Yes. Amazing. Happy birthday America. What also is a lot of, is coming is the 25th anniversary of 9-11.
Starting point is 02:08:37 So we're going to have Mom Donnie nine months from now, eight months from now being like, guys, welcome to New York City. This is where 9-11 happened. And you're going to juxtapose that with him in mosque saying literally, kill the infidels. You can't make this up. Welcome to Clown World, 26. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:57 Okay. All right, let's get to the next story. The next story I want to get to is the gunman of Marlago Rob. If you want to pull this up, gunman. Over the weekend, we all saw the reports, 20-year-old guy tried to jump over and, you know, he had a shotgun in his hand and no time he was eliminated. Rob, if you want to play this clip. At 1.30 this morning, the security detail detected that a individual had made his way into the inner perimeter of Bar Lago. A deputy and two Secret Service agents on the detail went to that area to investigate.
Starting point is 02:09:33 They confronted a white male that was carried a gas can and a shotgun. He was ordered to drop those two pieces of equipment that he had with them, at which time he put down the gas can, raised the shotgun to a shooting position. At that point in time, the deputy and the two secret service agents fired their weapons and neutralized the threat. He is deceased at the scene. I'll give you a picture of the shotgun and the gas can to have with you. So that's what we know now. Investigation continues.
Starting point is 02:10:12 The FBI is the lead investigation agency on this case, and we will be assisting them in whatever manner they would like, and they will be responsible for answering any other questions at an appropriate time. Okay, so that's that. Now, the gunman shot at Marlago was obsessed with Epstein cover up, came from family of avid Trump supporters. The man who entered Trump's, again, this is the Daily Mail story. The man who entered Trump Marlago with a shotgun and a gun gas can as it comes from a family of supporters.
Starting point is 02:10:44 Austin Tucker, 21 years old, was shot and killed on Sunday morning after entering Marlago. Brandon Fields, Martin's cousin reacted with disbelief called Martin, quiet and sane. His family was almost entirely in favor. We are big Trump supporters, all of us. bodyfield said, but his cousin was real quiet, never really talked about anything. Martin himself was also allegedly a supporter, however, a text message uncovered by the output showed that Martin may have been influenced by the Department of Justice release of the files related to dead pedophile Jeffrey Epstein on February 15, just a week before he was killed by law enforcement.
Starting point is 02:11:20 He texted a coworker at Pine Needles Lodge in North Carolina and the files about the files. I don't know if you read up on the Epstein files, but evil is real and unmistakable, Martin said, Vinnie. I mean, tragedy, but how, like, ignorance in the same breath. What are you, first of all, the president's not even there. It looks like a suicide mission to me. You're showing up to Marlago. You know it's heavily guarded with a gas canister and a shotgun.
Starting point is 02:11:49 And depending on what kind of ammunition's in the shotgun, if it's buckshot, you're not doing anything but pissing off the person that you're shooting at. If it's a slug, you have to have a really, really good aim. So I don't know where the mindset of something like that was, but for the whole family to be Trump supporters and then to have something like that, what's the end goal? Like, what's the mission? And who's talking to him?
Starting point is 02:12:12 I don't think it's just on the internet and he's just looking on X to find that. In his brain, what is going to kill? What was his objective? Go and do what? The president's at the White House. To go there and do what? I think it's, and again, people, you know, online, listening to what they're listening to,
Starting point is 02:12:29 it's a certain way, but to me, like, in all honesty, I'm asking you, Pat, what is he doing with a gas canister and a shotgun? You know you're going to get confronted. The one thing that bothered me is that he got into the inner perimeter, which even though the president's not there, there's no reason anybody should be getting that close. What do you think the objective was? What is he trying to do?
Starting point is 02:12:47 With one shotgun, no, no massive ammunition, no backpacks, shotgun gas canister. What is he doing? You think he knows the president's not there? I'm almost positive he knows the president. So what do you think he's doing? I don't know. Maybe it's a suicide. Like, just like that guy that, I don't know if it was an airman or army guy that went in front of the White House or something, put gasoline all over himself and killed himself and protest of what was happening in Gaza.
Starting point is 02:13:10 It's like, are you trying to do a suicide mission to bring awareness? There's so many other ways to bring awareness than going there and you know you're going to get killed. When you pick up your gun and aim it at a law enforcement officer, you know what's happening. He's not going to kill. Well, you're going to kill five of them. No, I think he knows what's going to be happening. So what's the goal? I want to hear more about the mental condition and what happened.
Starting point is 02:13:34 Mentioned media is going to say, oh, see, completely disappointed, disillusioned with Trump to the point of going to engage it like that. But your questions, Pat, are the right questions. Those are the questions at the center. If you know Trump's not there, then you know the only people you're going to encounter is the second level security that is securing dwelling because there are no active targets on, and I hate to say that,
Starting point is 02:14:02 but they call them active assets or active targets because they know people are targets. And so, Pat, if he goes there, he knows it's going to be second level security, and this is what he's going to encounter. And first of all, I thank you for the sheriff that sat there and gave a very transparent and complete report. That is what strong law enforcement reporting for the media and the public sounds like. I'll give you a picture of it so you have it.
Starting point is 02:14:31 I'll do this. But he says he then raised the gun at us. What does he think is going to happen? At that moment, that's a suicide. Yep. Adam. Well, it only takes one psycho to change the world. I mean, we saw what happened with Charlie Kirk.
Starting point is 02:14:46 We've seen what happens when Trump almost got killed, shot. We've seen what happens with school shooters. it's you're only as strong as your weakest link. Here's this kid that's clearly mentally ill. You drive some North Carolina. Whether he thought the president that was there or not is almost irrelevant. He went out of his way to kill himself. So by the way, how many times have we been to Mar-a-Lago in the last few years?
Starting point is 02:15:13 We're lucky enough and I'm grateful enough. Do I've been to Mar-a-Lago? I don't know, a dozen times? We've done our events there. Dude, you're not getting past security. at all. Much less if we're going to go to the White House or anything. Like, you're not getting there.
Starting point is 02:15:28 I mean, Butler, PA, that's a whole other story. Okay, but this kid thinks he's going to show up and do what? So I'm so grateful that we've become, you know, tight with the Trump administration. They invite us there. We've done our events there. I know we're doing another event in Miami sometime soon. Dude, you're showing up and you think that you're going to do what. So to me, this kid is irrelevant.
Starting point is 02:15:51 He's an embodiment of what's going on that these weirdo kids next thing you know he's going to find out he's a trans shooter. God forbid we bring that up, they think that they're going to take vigilante justice into their own hands and change the world. Whether it's school shooter, whether it's Charlie Kirk,
Starting point is 02:16:09 whether it's any of these characters, hopefully they're killed before it even becomes an issue. Because the fact that he got how close? Inner perimeter, whatever the hell that means. That's very close. You know, it's by the house. So thank God everything's okay. Thank God everybody's okay.
Starting point is 02:16:25 But it only takes one idiot to change the course of history, what you almost learned. It is very weird. And by the way, yesterday, you know, I was talking to a couple parents about what young boys need. And I said there's five things young boys need. They need a present father, the right belief system sold to them.
Starting point is 02:16:46 You need high standards. You need friction and you need fun. You need friction to be able to know that life's going to to be tough. And over the weekend, I saw video an interview with Anthony Hopkins. Anthony Hopkins, one of my favorite actors of all time. The guy was in Shadowlands. He was in, I think it's called Shadowlands. He was in Silence of the Lambs. He's been on so many, the fractures. He's been on so many things. But in this interview, he just came out with a book a few months back, and this interviewer's asking him about his daughter. His daughter's 58 years old. They haven't seen each other for 20-plus
Starting point is 02:17:17 years. Oh, wow. And she does not want to see him. And you have to see how uncomfortable he gets. And then I want you to hear his answer. Then I'm going to come back to you guys. Then I want to show you a video clip of a son and a father talking to each other. This son is not 32 years old. But let's watch his clip first. Here's Anthony Hopkins being asked about his estranged, being estranged from his daughter. Go ahead, Rob. For you. So I know what you're going to talk about my domestic life. Yes. No. No. Even though it's in the book? No.
Starting point is 02:17:51 Stung. You doesn't want to talk about. Can I ask a general question that's not specifically about the material in the book? Well. But it's about the... I'll stumble through this. Part of the reason that the material in the book about your relationship with your daughter, your strange relationship with your daughter,
Starting point is 02:18:12 part of the reason why I found it so painful is that it resonated with me for personal reasons. I've seen my father, I think, twice in 20 years. I've spoken to him once in those 20 years. And I'm very curious about other people's experience of that kind of estrangement. In this instance, the estrangement is my choice. But I just wonder if you have thoughts about where reconciliation might lie
Starting point is 02:18:43 between estranged parents and children. My wife. Stella sent an invitation to come and see us. Not a word of response. So I think, okay, fine. I wish her well. I'm not going to waste blood over that. If you want to waste your life being in resentment
Starting point is 02:19:15 50 years later, 58 years later, fine, go ahead. It's not in my can. You see, we can, I could carry resentment over the past, this and the other. But that's death. You're not living. You have to acknowledge one thing that we are imperfect.
Starting point is 02:19:42 We're not saints. We're all sinners and saints or whatever we are. We do the best we can. Life is painful. Sometimes people get hurt. Sometimes we get hurt. But you can't live like that. you have to say get over it
Starting point is 02:19:57 and if you can't get over it, fine. Good luck to you. But I have no judgment but you did what I could. So that's it. That's all I want to say. Do you hope your daughter reads the book? I'm not going to answer that now.
Starting point is 02:20:20 I don't care. Wow. I'll move on. Please, I want you to. Because I don't want to hurt her. I understand. I don't want to make, And he, no, 20 years the offer was made, but fine.
Starting point is 02:20:35 Onwards. What do you think? That's tough, man. Vinny, what do you think? I mean, I'm curious, like, what, what did they say what he, what happened for something like that to occur? Why, why the estrangement? Does there any, like, fallout? Did we, was it because of his acting?
Starting point is 02:20:55 Was it because of an action? What do he do? Because, I mean, that, you, but I could, I could feel the pain in the, uh, in the interviewers. thing. Because mind you, I don't have any kids, but I can only imagine what that must feel like is something that came from you. You can't communicate with that person. I lost my dad when I was 19. And Pat, we talked about this. I couldn't see my mom's still alive. I love her to death. I couldn't see a moment or a scenario happening where I know that he's walking around and I wouldn't be able to talk to him or be around him, even though whatever he put us do. And remember you asked me, Pat, I think a month ago, you're like Vinny, not less than a month ago we're eating dinner and you're like if you had three wishes what would one of them be and I told you five minutes with my dad give me five minutes so when I see people like that it hurts because I'm like you could see the pain he doesn't want to talk to he's fighting it he's fighting it fight you you've gave this person everything you've nurtured this person you gave them a life
Starting point is 02:21:54 they're 58 years old they're they're they're an active you know contributing person in society and you can't get them to be with you or even communicate with you and it's like Like, man, that's a struggle I can only imagine. I can only imagine with everything that I've seen with you do, with Tico, with Dylan, with Senna, with Brookie, it would drive, Pat, if I found out one day, Tico doesn't want to talk to you. And it's just because in his mind or a scenario happened in his head,
Starting point is 02:22:22 he doesn't want to talk to you. It would crush me knowing how horrible, horrible you would feel because of everything that you've done and the lessons and everything with the video that you put on Instagram. the work and all the stuff that you put in. So I'd be curious to find out what happened. It's none of my business, but I mean, if he's saying it's in the book, but it's soul-crushing.
Starting point is 02:22:42 It's soul-crushing. And I could see it in his face. I could see it in his face. So, yeah. Yeah, it's tough, man. In this article, this is, him and Abigail did a movie together called Shadowlands, which I think is a story of C.S. Lewis, which is worth watching if you haven't seen it. And he was an alcoholic.
Starting point is 02:23:00 He talks about it in his new book as well. he married his first wife, I believe, in 1967, and they had her. It's the only child he's ever had. And when they ask what happened and why he was hurt, because if you go a little bit lower, there's a picture of the two together smiling. That's his daughter right there. So she was an extra, she had some kind of a small role in a movie. Go a little bit lower, Rob.
Starting point is 02:23:23 So he says, they fought frequently. Hopkins explained at points of contection. Rob, can you see if they says they fought frequently? Is that his daughter or is that about his ex? go a little bit higher to see if it's talking about his daughter or his ex. By the time we realize how awful of a match we were, Barker, it was pregnant, and we tried to rally for the sake of the child we were about to have, but it was no use.
Starting point is 02:23:43 The marriage was a disaster. So he's talking about his wife, go a little bit lower. And then he says, Dave Fartfrey Hopkins explained that points of contention included his alcoholism and Barker's resentment over his career. One night when he returned from home, returned home from working on a location of Scotland, Barker greeted him with sarcasm.
Starting point is 02:24:00 and called him Mr. Lord, high and mighty. I have never been physically violent, but in that moment I was filled with such revulsion that I became afraid for myself and her. And at that exact moment, Hopkins decided to leave for good and went to see his 14-month-old daughter in a room. I looked down at her and whispered goodbye. He writes, then I walked back to the hall,
Starting point is 02:24:19 picked on my suitcase, and left the house. Go a little bit low, Rob. Aside from sending financial support, I don't have contact with Petronella and Abigail for a few years after. to that. It is the saddest fact of my life and my greatest regret. And yet I feel absolutely sure that it would have been much worse for everyone had I stayed. And I don't know, I don't know the religious beliefs, Pat, but I horrible, horrible situation. I don't know if she's a Christian.
Starting point is 02:24:47 I don't know if he's a practicing Christian. The attitude that he has, which I think is beautiful that I miss is we're all sinners. We're far, far, far, far from perfect. I, I, by the way, I don't act. I'm trying to be the best Christian that I can. I try to walk. in the path. I sin. I stumble all the time. He's at least saying as a man, I messed up. We're all going to mess up. That's what this life is about. You are the furthest thing from what Christ acts, but we're trying to walk in the footsteps. And again, if she was a real, I don't know who she is, I don't know nothing about her except for what you guys wrote. If she was a real practicing Christian, that forgiveness, which is one of the hardest things. Praying for your enemies is number one for
Starting point is 02:25:29 me, which is so difficult, but I do it. And then forgiveness, knowing that we fall short of the grace of God, but he gives us that moment to say, listen, you're going to fail. You're imperfect. And if you, if you accept that, then it could be that, that relationship could be a lot different. Because if that was me and I was a daughter and I was a real legitimate practicing Christian, I'd say, dad, you know what? I love you. I forgive you. I'm not going to forget anything that you did, leaving me at 14 months old, but I do forgive you. Adam. Whoa, I'll try to not cry like Vinny, but it might be tough. Well, I'll say this.
Starting point is 02:26:06 I'm respectful and jealous of the relationship you have with your dad because I see the relationship you have with your dad, and I just didn't have that relationship at all with my dad. I had the opposite relationship, Vinny, where you said you want to spend five more minutes. I said, I can't spend five more minutes with this guy. I tried and tried and tried to work out this relationship with my dad. And at the end of the day, like, I just had to block him for my life. And it was the first time that I was able to, like, press block on my phone after considering it. And he died less than a month later.
Starting point is 02:26:39 And I had all these crazy voicemails on my phone. It was tough. But when you deal with challenges in your life, it only makes you better. Like, if you see poor people, they get motivated, but I'm not going to be poor. It's not going to happen. When someone says you can't do so, yes, I can. So for me, I had some. such a contentious relationship.
Starting point is 02:26:58 My father, I'm like, I'm going to have the best relationship with kids. I was a camp counselor. I was a school teacher. All my best friends have kids. I'm like, the fun uncle, I've taken a massive role in my nephew's life, especially since my sister got divorced. So I'm going to be the best possible uncle, father, leader. And obviously, I'm going through that vetting system right now with my girl.
Starting point is 02:27:23 But it's not easy. You know, you said these are the five things that every young man need. You said, what is a father? A belief system, present father, a belief system. Standards. High standards. Friction. Friction.
Starting point is 02:27:34 Fun. And fun. And I wrote it down because it's so true. And I wish that more people, that more men had that active role with their kids. I mean, you know, the one movie that you not encouraged us to see, you made us see was the judge. And Robert Duval, I want to say, passed away last week. And the relationship they had with their Robert Downey Jr. and Robert Deval, that was, was tough. I think he had
Starting point is 02:27:59 to come back after being estranged for decades and represent his father that was accused of murder and was this the movie and he says, where were you? Was that this movie? That's Johnny Cash and walked along. Gotcha, but same concept. Both of them. In that scene there's also where were you? All she wanted, your mother just wanted
Starting point is 02:28:15 to see you. Why don't you come? Yeah. So it's tough out there and we've seen the stats about you know, the best outcome for a kid is to have a two-parent household, a nuclear family. But then when you take away the father, the stats plummet. But when you take away the mother, and it's a single father, the stats say the same. And I'm not discounting what single mothers do
Starting point is 02:28:37 because God knows we have that massive problem in this country, but the father's role in the life is the most important thing. The last thing is this, I have friends on the opposite side of things, guys, my age, that have gone through a divorce. And I've seen the women that hold the kids hostage from my buddies. And I wish it was an equal footing type of thing, but men have to know what they're getting themselves into in the legal system because they're always going to side with the mother, whether that's alimony, whether child support. So be very careful who you have kids with, go through the vetting system. I know you talk about the 101 questions to ask before you get engaged, but this life thing
Starting point is 02:29:16 that we're all trying to do, nobody has all the answers. But I want to show you this. I want to show you this, Rob. Can you go to this other clip I sent you? Because, Vinnie, I want you to see this. These two go hand in hand. Here's a guy that is sitting with his dad. Okay? And this guy is a father now himself. He's got a son himself. And he is trying to tell exactly how he feels about his dad
Starting point is 02:29:41 and the most respectful. And he is so sincere in this clip. Very emotional. Rob, go ahead and play the clip. I waited for you. I waited every weekend and you never showed up. And he always told him. He always said, no, you.
Starting point is 02:29:57 What? And I love him. My mom. You know we never had this talk. I think it's 33 years right here. That's what this is. Yeah, and you told me that you would come, Daddy. You never did.
Starting point is 02:30:20 You told me that you was going to pick me up. And I waited and I look at my son and I think about how much I, what my son means to me and I can never make him sit on a curb. And I don't say this to make you feel bad. I don't. I really love you. This is not the beat you up show. This is the here we are.
Starting point is 02:30:41 This is the we're going to rejoice. So let me get it out. Because you like me were the same. I know you love to talk. And I love to talk. And I've been talking and talking. But let me keep talking. And let me say, was that little boy.
Starting point is 02:30:55 And you told me you would come. And you promise. And you promise. You know, I'm a man of my word today because you aren't. Wow, that's a really famous rapper. Who was it? Is that logic right there? Logic.
Starting point is 02:31:11 That's logic? I never saw that. He's one of the greatest rappers, white, black, whatever. Is that really logic? M&M rapper level. Yeah, that guy's nasty. Wow. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 02:31:22 I didn't know that was logic. Yeah, I didn't. Until mid-interview, I go, wait a minute. I saw the tattoos. What do you think about that? What do you think about a son being that vulnerable with his father for not being there, the pain, the emotion? I could never do that to my son.
Starting point is 02:31:36 Insane. Like, I would never have. him be on a curb and sitting away because guess what he right when he said that i knew that he was sitting on a curb as a kid like where's my dad oh man well this what i talked about where you know if you're poor you're going to have that motivation right he learned from his father he said i'm not i'm going to be present for my kids because you weren't present for me so it comes down to this one thing you don't have to have that generational curse in your family you can be the person that stops the curse, whether that's money, whether that's education, whether that's fatherhood,
Starting point is 02:32:11 whether that's anything in life, you can be the person that makes the difference. So shout out to him for being the best version of himself. Tom. You know, there's a reason that the Lord tells us, don't let the sun go down in your anger. And there's a reason that when Christ talked about all the characters of humanness, he said, but the greatest of these is love. And there's two simple truths about kids. Who is in their ear is always important.
Starting point is 02:32:48 Kids, other parents, who is in your kids' ear, number one. And number two, they're watching. They're watching you. When people get divorced and suddenly leave, they don't walk out on the spouse or walking out on the kid. Because that's what the kid believes. Kids inherently believe it's not my fault. I'm here, and your fight's not my fight.
Starting point is 02:33:12 Adults in counseling help people unpack these wounds, where you come later in life and you say, my parents got divorced. That wasn't, it says it hurt me, and I was innocent. And my dad tried to say, you don't understand. You had to live with my mom. You don't understand. You have to live with your dad. Parents don't leave each other. They leave kids. And it is the power of faith and the Holy Spirit that gets you to a place where you can forgive.
Starting point is 02:33:47 But not letting the sun go down on your anger and finding the love for those around you. Logic was giving his dad a gift there, the gift of transparency and the pain so that they can work from here. and I don't know what happened with Anthony Hopkins' daughter, but he admitted he came into a kid and he said goodbye. The kid wasn't in the fight. The fight was the mom and Hopkins. I don't know the situation. I don't know the other facts.
Starting point is 02:34:21 But you see it all the time where kids just draw a line. And the line is not a line of rejection typically. It's a line of protection. that people say that hurt me so bad, I'm going to put up a wall here because I won't be hurt again. Other times the kids are just putting up a line of anger, says you've hurt me, and I'm never going to let you close to me. But all of it, it's human tragedy. It's all human tragedy. And regardless how deep you go or how far you go, there's always a way out. And the way out is that Jesus Christ can heal.
Starting point is 02:34:56 even if the parent is never to be seen again or has passed away, he can heal the bitterness on our hearts and give us a way forward. And for those who are awake and are available and are here, be careful of who's in your kid's eyes and be objective about who you are and what you portray because they're watching. That's great. You know, and I would tell you, humiliation, public laws, causes people to run and get away from things.
Starting point is 02:35:26 Sometimes a father is just not that present because, you know, the wife, the embarrassment, the undermining, any of that stuff, it's nasty. It's one thing that the kid just wants, man. He just wants you around. That's what he wants. He just wants you around. He wants you to say, I believe in your son. He wants you to say, you know, challenge him to do a little bit better.
Starting point is 02:35:51 He wants you to give him the gift of time, quality time, words. positive affirmations. And those are things that we can do. It doesn't require money. You know, and no matter how much money or how little money you got, I remember my dad had nothing. When we would go and we would eat at a burger king,
Starting point is 02:36:08 we would eat because he could afford a whopper. And it was working at a 99-centor, and I would go the days that he had me when I would see him every other week and we'd go to the 99th century. He would make me a little sandwich and we would sit there and listen to a, you know, Persian music that he's playing.
Starting point is 02:36:25 Nasliman, Nasleto, Nasslet Teharroki, Zamune, Nassli. I mean, we would just listen to the song over and over again at Westwood or in, you know, Inglewood. And I would remember these moments. So you don't need all the money in the world to give your kids what they want. It isn't just money.
Starting point is 02:36:44 They want words. They want belief. They want encouragement. They want playtime. And they want you to know you believe in them. Because society today isn't saying that a lot. And if the wrong person tells you, kids they believe in them and they're the first to do so typically their philosophy and ideology
Starting point is 02:37:02 will be imposed on your kids do not be the last person that tells your kids i believe in them be the first never be the last one never be the one that doesn't do it start off when you get off to today's podcast and whatever you're doing for the people that are still watching call your kids today make it an assignment write them a note tell them how much you believe in them and why here's why i believe in you it'd be one of the best conversations you have with your kids And if you haven't done it yet, it would be an amazing moment. Incredible reaction. They'll be shocked.
Starting point is 02:37:31 But those of you guys that are doing it, don't even worry about it. Vinnie. Yeah, can I click look? Yeah. Okay. So the hotcakes and hot takes is going to be going live right after this. I think they're going to put a lower third with the QR code. Me and Emily Austin with Rob and Homberto, amazing conversation, stuff that you're not even going to know about her.
Starting point is 02:37:49 We didn't even talk about politics. It was about hot cakes, her tennis pro. She almost went tennis pro. So if you guys want to go, we're going to go right after this. It's actually live. Take care, everybody. Bye, bye, bye.

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