PBD Podcast - ELECTION DAY RECAP w/ Rod Blagojevich | PBD Podcast | Ep. 203

Episode Date: November 10, 2022

In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Rod Blagojevich, Tom Ellsworth, & Adam Sosnick to Recap the 2022 Mid Term Elections Rod Blagojevich, often referred to by his nicknames "Blago" is an American former politician, political commentator, and convicted felon who served as the 40th governor of Illinois from 2003 to 2009, when he was impeached following charges of public corruption for which he was later sentenced to federal prison. PBD Podcast Episode 203. Support: Learn about Byrna, the most devastating less-lethal self-defense weapon that I recommend for everyone. Click on the link below to see my recommendations to help you protect yourself and your family: https://bit.ly/PBDPodcast Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

All right, so we are live episode number two or three at the new set Which by the way if you can see I don't know if we can show the other site Eric or not We can fit 300 people here and very soon when we cross 500,000 subs will be doing a live podcast here drinks Maybe cigars maybe alcohol maybe conversations a lot of different funny things I will be doing here So stay tuned for that But with that being said today today's a special podcast, especially after what happened yesterday with the midterms, I don't know if we can call it a red wave.

I think it can be called a tear drop. A tear drop. A tear drop. We'll talk about that here in a minute. A lot of things happen. We got Adam in the house. We got Ricky Aguilar in the house. We got Tom Ellsworth in the house.

And we got former governor Rod Bagoyvich in the house as well to tell us what really happened with last night Some stories we got next for some stories for us to know before we get into it. So DeSantis dominated Rubio dominated lake Kerry Lake with what was going on in Arizona apparently it's still going on right now There's an apparently it's still going on right now. It's still going on right now. It's still going on right now. Close enough.

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From 32, and by the way, you know what kind of investors were involved in FTX? We'll talk about that. Tom knows some of the guys. One of the guys had seven Super Bowl championships. Did you say 94% equity lost in one day in FTX? Is it weird that also the NFT marketplace has been quiet? 94% as well. Bitcoin has 724. Ethereum's right now at 1200. Anyway, some investors, this is a Wall Street Journal article talking about that Fed rates could hit

two-decade high, 6%. Facebook laying off 11,000. Homeowner's lost $1.5 trillion in equity just in the last five months. And then we'll talk politics. We'll talk some polls. And we'll talk some issues. But with that being said, how do you

feel about last night? Tom, why don't we go to your first? What happened last night? You were up to three o'clock in the morning. Well, you were looking for a red wave, and then you're looking for maybe a little bit of a red high tide, and what you ended up with is sort of a midterm shift, but of the more neutral sedate type.

And we still have some things we're out looking. It's 48 in the Senate. We still got four races that are really close. Runoff can happen in Georgia. I think that's pretty much determined now. And then three races that are pretty close, although Laxhall looks good in Nevada. But I really saw sort of, you thought that the voter was going to be more angry in the voting booth. You saw exit polls from all the different channels

talking about how upset the voters were. But inside the voting booth, there wasn't as much all the different channels talking about how upset the voters were, but inside the voting booth, there wasn't as much shift as we anticipated. Which one, Rod, surprised you the most, which one was? Yeah, I kind of saw that one come in. I did not see XYZ come in. Which one was it?

I mean, which race? Which particular race? Well, a carry leg doesn't win. That'll be a shock to me. I think so. Yeah, I think she's gonna win. I don't know a lot about what's going on in Arizona, but I just feel like the campaign she was running,

she's a very attractive candidate, forceful. If she doesn't win, that'll be the biggest surprise. Am I surprised about the result? In other words, with Tom said, it wasn't a red wave. It was probably a dark pink wave. Yes, a little bit surprised. But here again, if you're asking me who the biggest losers are, I would say it's the posters and the pundits.

I would say that it's a Republican expectations. I would say it's the Democrats still, because in all likelihood, we'll not have total control of the government. And if you're asking about who the winners are, clearly Ron DeSantis had a big big night big winner, the Republican Party in Florida, big winner, and hoodies are big winners. And the next time I run for public office, I'm gonna get a hoodie. And I'm gonna

run this. No suit and time at a oral hoodie. And it's gonna say across my chest, I didn't do it. Like Federman. Like Federman, yeah. I mean, who else would you say biggest winners are losers? Go ahead. I know what you're going to say. So, well, I think everything comes down to D. Now, let me explain. So who are the biggest losers?

It's not even closed. Donald Trump was the biggest loser of the night. In addition to that, election denialism, D, massive loser, we can go down the ticket here, every single governor in swing states that was running on the election denial ticket. Whether it's Tom Michaels, Wisconsin, Tudor Nixon, Michigan, Doug Mastra,

and on Pennsylvania got wiped out. Darren Bailey, Dan Cox, Illinois, Maryland, Lee Zeldin in New York. I know they said they thought there'd be clothes, it wasn't, and then Kerry Lake. And then last but not least, Lee Zeldin was closed for the state of New York. For New York, but it was, that's a right, 4.7%, I think 47% to 52.4.

Not close enough that it was gonna change anything You just know that close and the last one out least and this is where I think Republican shot themselves in the foot in addition to just you know Following everything that Trump says and denialism was the dobs decision the last D Which was the abortion issue this should have have been a freaking layup for Republicans. We've been talking about a red wave for six months, and this isn't barely a red tear drop, with everything that's going on in the country.

Dude, I voted for Ron DeSantis. Okay, and we'll talk about what the winners are. With everything that's going on in the country right now, whether it's inflation, the cost of living, gas prices, crime, immigration, this should have been a wipeout and it wasn't even close. So I agree with Governor Rodler-Bugoya-Vitch that you said the, what was your point of who was the big winner?

Well, the Santas, the Florida Republican Party, and the hoodies. But on the flip side, who the big winners were, were DeSantis, not even close. Okay? Democrats, because there was no red wave, but the big D is democracy. So the Democrats had no platform. Their entire platform was just let women choose and protect democracy. Who cares what's going on in the economy? Who cares how shitty inflation is? Who cares? Let's protect democracy.

Bottom line is it turns out election denialism is not a winning message. So if you're a Republican and you're thinking, huh, 2024 is around the corner, who should I get behind? It's obvious. Don't let emotions in the window here. It's obvious. The electorate is saying, go with the Santhus. He just destroyed Florida, Miami-Dade, which never votes red.

Meanwhile, everyone that basically was on the Trump train in the denialist ticket lost, it's clear. Trump is a toxic candidate. 40% of America loves this guy. 60% wants nothing to do with him. So you know this, there's something called big tent politics. You have to have a big tent. It's a numbers game.

If you don't get to 50%, you're not gonna win. We had a Dinesh Chasusa, another D. I asked him what was the thing he did, 2000 mules. I said, why are you shocked that Trump lost? He wasn't the favorite. He goes, what are you talking about? And then I brought up the Vegas odds. I go, yeah, he wasn't the favorite.

How did you not know that? He's like, oh, I thought Trump was the favorite. Brother, you just made an entire documentary. You made $100 million, and you didn't know that Trump wasn't the favorite. Denialism is not the way forward. Okay, soar loser, victim mentality is not the way forward. DeSantis, freedom, that's the way forward.

But if you nominate Trump in 2024 you got another thing common Republicans that's it's actually a very good conversation do you what do you think about what Adam just said well I agree with a lot of what he's saying I would say this if it wasn't for the Dobbs decision and reversing Roe v Wade that would have been a Republican red wave I do believe that I think women all over the country in every part of the country saw that as a in a front of the country, saw that as a front to their freedoms, their rights.

It's a moral issue, and I certainly understand the people who believe life begins a conception. I understand if you believe that, they have to take the position that they take. But most Americans don't think that. And I think that notwithstanding the fact that the polls before the election was indicating that that was an issue that was further down, the concerns of the voter, that was the economy and crime and the open borders. And the abortion issue wasn't that high. I think women, guided into the voting booth, and the first of all, they came out in larger numbers. I'm sure.

And they were driven by the fact that the idea of politicians and men in particular can restrict their reproductive freedoms. And we tell them about their bodies. I think that had a big impact in this race. And let me add to that, timing is very important. Timing is of the essence. If I'm the Republicans, and if you really, really wanted to do the repeal rovers' Wade, I would have done it

right after you won the red-weight midterms. Let's be clear, the reason you lost the midterms was because election denialism is not a winning message. Sorry, Donald Trump. And number two, women got pissed off. They're like, hold on. Republicans are in charge now. And now I'm losing my reproductive choice. I ain't down for this. So if they would have done it as far as timing goes, right after they had a mandate in 2022, which they would have, if they'd enshoot themselves in the foot over the subortion issue, then they would have had a mandate that said,

we're in charge now, we hold Congress, because they would have, and then that would have been an opportune moment to do that. Instead, they jumped the gun, and now they're paying the price in basically, maybe not even holding Congress. I think they're gonna win the House, but they're paying the price in basically maybe not even holding Congress. I think they're going to win the House, but they're not going to win the Senate. That's pretty clear at this point.

Senate's 48-48 right now, and one of them, George is going to be a what, a runoff, which we're not going to know anything for 30 days. But the Senate, the Arizona seat could, it's still going on, no? Right. the senate the the Arizona seat could it's still going on no it's right uh... locksholt overnight uh... thinks of it tightened up in the vata and he acts as a twenty two thousand boat lead right now uh... the vote yes don't know if all the rule Arizona that's gonna come in is gonna bring masters up it seems like he's got a long way to go right there

and marks got that one and in hand so i i think the best case is probably 50-50. I think it's probably Georgia, Nevada, if Herschel Walker wins the runoff, is probably the best case on the Republican side and it's 50-50. Something you said that I was looking at last night is the pollsters and political consultants are big losers. They are charging exorbitant fees to candidates, and I see you nodding, you were a candidate.

You went through that. You had to determine who are the right ones to hire for your campaign today in an economic malaise or today when it's up. And you had all the things that you had to do. I took a look just at Florida last night. I went to real-clar politics. I went to 538, because they assimilate

all these different polls you can see them. And there was a worst case scenario. I saw a couple of them that were 9 point polls for DeSantis. Most everything I found was 7, 7, and a half, 8. It was a 20 point victory. So somewhere over at Charlie Criss Camp, they're looking at some checks they wrote to these consultants and pollsters and saying, what the hell? Why didn't we know the hole was this deep?

They would have spent their money differently. Similarly, I looked at Whitmer. It was off by like half. Her victory was double the spread they thought it was going to be. And the reason I looked at those races, in either race was there like a last minute surprise or a booby trap or something. You looked at DeSantis and Florida, DeSantis didn't cure cancer and Charlie Christ didn't have some horrible thing pop up of a fraternity picture or something.

You know what I'm saying? The election just rolled right in, no surprises. And I think the pollster, those are just two I looked at, but the polls were so wrong of not really understanding this, and I'm wondering if polling America is on something that's so deeply lightning rod as choice, abortion, and with women, do we just not want to be pulled and just they're not finding ways to get the right answers? Because the pollsters were massive losers, I agree with you on that point. I mean, this is the umpteenth time we've been like well the pulsars were wrong again

what's the definition of crazy doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results we know this of course we can know the crazy definition but in twenty sixteen the pulsars were absurdly wrong right twenty eighteen twenty twenty again Biden was the favorite. Now, 2022. I told you the one poll that I look at,

it's not Pew, it's not Rasmussen, it's not ABC, it's not Fox, all that. I just look at Vegas, bro. What's Vegas doing? Because there's accountability there. They follow the money. If they lose, they really lose. Exactly, if they lose, they lose.

Like we just saw this guy mattress, Mac, one's $75 million, because he put it on the Astros. There's accountability there. Oh shit, we just lost. Our line was way off, okay? Versus, what's the accountability with these posters? There's no accountability. Well, turns out we were way wrong.

Well, all right, can you write me another check for the next elections round? It's, there's no accountability there in Vegas at least is accountability if they screw up Somebody's getting fired and they're gonna have to pay out $75 million these polls are absurd Ricky. What are you thinking? You know, I'm listening. I was kind of listening to the guys at first and I was thinking about like I was listening to to Adam right now about You know what I'm I talked a lot of people when it comes out to this with, with the whole thing with Trump and it whatnot. I think that, I think that what really affected the Republican Party was 100%. Even because I know even conservative women that are not happy with the fact

that they don't get to choose or they can't choose how they're going to be able to deal with their bodies as far as being able to have the choice to either keep a baby or not. So more than just the fact that people did not, that people were concerned about gas and their concerned about mortgage rates and the concern about taxes. It's more than obvious, they're more concerned about things that are personal to them, what then it comes up to their body. I think that that's that's kind of what we saw. I'm like I said, I'm

I'm extremely surprised with a lot of things that were happening, but then again, when you start talking to everyday Americans, and you start to spin the stories like they have with Democrat Party about like, oh, everything's fine, everything's fine. So many people are so emotionally attached to their political parties that they're gonna believe their politicians. Like look what happened in California,

knew someone again. He said, just kids to school, well we couldn't send our kids to school. He was partying at a birthday party in the middle of a pandemic, we couldn't send our kids to school. He was partying at a birthday party in the middle of a pandemic, we couldn't do that. He did everything it was recorded doing everything that we couldn't do and they voted him in again. I just really, by the way, in California, if you were in California, he was hitting the abortion thing really hard.

And like I said, even conservative women, even Republican women that I know, they were not down with that. You know, I'm pro-life. I believe the life, you know, you know, I don't, people don't have to agree with them, but Bible says, you know, hey, I knew you before you were in the womb. That means something to me. But most of the people are not picking up a Bible. So therefore, they're not strongly attached to that ideology. And I think that in this more than the fact that Trump was saying, oh, everybody cheated in 2020, I think they were more concerned about the reproductive organs issue than they were about him denying the fact that, you know, it was a bad election.

Scott Rodriguez just asked you a question. He said, what's up with Latinos, Ricky, when will they wake up here in California? No, the thing is that I don't I don't think that I don't It's not that we're not waking up. There's not enough of them Right, there's not enough of them and I don't talk on top of that you can't go like for example No matter how much people know in California And it's funny because so my cousins are gonna be watching this I Got to I'm a republic. I'm a conservative Republican.. What happens is that they can't fathom the idea of voting the opposite of what they've been told or what they've been taught. Every time I go to my in-laws house or

go to my grandmother's house, all these companies, all these Mexican CNNs are talking about how the Democrat party is a savior of everybody. So no matter how much logic, the reason that a lot of people don't take long on this subject, but a lot of people forget that Mexicans originally, we were not Catholic, we worshiped the Senate of the Moon. They came and changed our religion because we believe the problem with Hispanic community is that we believe people just because they're on the TV. And we think they're right. We're not want to do our homework.

So it's very, very, very gullible people. So no matter what conversation I have with my grandparents or uncles and aunts, I have an art in particular, am I gonna say her name? I have an aunt in particular, am I going to say her name? I have an aunt in particular that I can show her all the facts as she still were refused to vote the other way because she can't find them the idea of voting Republican even though that's what benefit should have most. Yeah, but brother, that works both sides of the aisle.

I don't know if you ever watched Jordan Klepper fingers the polls, the Daily Show. By the way, just as far as the Daily Show goes, anyone watched the Daily Show? I haven't really watched it since John Stuart left. I'm not a fan of the, I can't even forget, I can't remember his name, who's the host? What's his name? Trevor Noah. Not a fan, cool, all good.

But Jordan Klepper is a freaking star. And he goes out. So we can talk all day how wild and wacky the woke left is. But this guy, who's clearly a liberal, talented guy, comedian, goes into the heart of Trump country, red America, rule America, and asks everyday people, doesn't, doesn't, assume, ask questions. And the answers are wildly insane. They're like, January 6, which is a peaceful march.

There was no, there was no, and nothing happened. What? Yeah, one lady was like, oh, yeah, I don't believe any of that. None of that, that was all fake. There was no issues, there was no violence. It's like, well, what's this?

He shows it to her, she's like, I don't believe it. So like denialism is real. Most people are most people. Most people are dead. I don't know. I don't know. I must say that denialism is real. I don't think it's the biggest subject as we think it is more than the reproductive organ part. Well, all right. So, if we're going to go there, I've been pretty clear. Republican should have run away with this. This is an ABC pulled people, exopoles, most important issues. Number one, by far, was inflation, 32%. Number two, was abortion, 27%.

Shouldn't even been on the ballot. I'm clear about that. Shouldn't have been on the ballot. And then the next three major issues were crime, 11%, gun policy, 11%, immigration, 10%. Those are all winning issues for Republicans. Those are inflation, crime, gun policy, immigration. Those are lay-up W's for Republicans.

But they threw in this abortion thing, overreached, and said, we got this thing, guys. No, you don't. That's what you're saying right now. It was a reproductive organ thing. That's what screwed up. I don't know if I'm going to put that, guys. It's like, oh, that's it. And that's the main thing. No, that's not the only thing. But let me say what you just said right now with January 6. I think the biggest challenge I think for myself wasn't January 6th, whether that was just a peaceful protest. It was the fact the opposing side called

what happened with the riots a peaceful protest. So you lose credibility. You lose credibility. So one goes to court and you want to put people in jail. But the other one, they're just peaceful protesters and they're ruining their own communities. So to me, the contradiction there is on both sides with you. I'm fully on your safe page. But I want to show you two wrongs. Don't make you guys see myroflores yesterday. Myroflores lost last time. She lost last time, which is pretty, uh, but this is a tweet that she put yesterday. I want to get your thoughts on this. If you can pull it up, she said the red wave did not happen.

Republicans and independent state home do not complain about the results if you did not do your part. So what do you think about this tweet from myra florist and Ricki L. Goat first? She's right. She's 100% right. She should have won. She should have won.

She was popular. She's popular. She should have won. She's not. She's popular. I mean, she should have won She's not wrong. When we go back and we're watching all the when we're watching all the The pose and we're watching how close a lot of these races are It's that's not that's not how this thing was supposed to be nobody projected it to be this way She's right. I think a lot of people simply either either they were big on the abortion thing or they just not show up. But by the way, just so you know, just going back, I don't wanna go back track time,

but just so you, a lot of Hispanics really do believe that your vote doesn't count, just so you know that. Like a lot of my boys are like, bro, I'm not gonna go vote. They're like, vote count. California, it doesn't. Well, I know, but I'm saying they believe that in general. It's a general belief.

But in this case, she was running for house country, right? That's a little bit different than running for governor because you're talking about a house Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're talking about a district. We're not talking about a whole state correct So she lost her district, but a lot of people don't think that they're vote counts That's very popular amongst the Hispanic community that your vote doesn't count Who does she lose to? What was a? Tyler I can't remember who my floor is yeah Yeah, I can't remember who she lost.

I can't, I can't be good top of my head. What's following so many of these? If you can pull up who she lost to because. Yeah, what we're looking at that, there is a whole issue in Texas. And if you were to take a look at the governor county map and you see that there were really, there are three Texases now. There is all of the communities that go on the border. The Rio Grande, RGB, you know,

everything, all the way down there on the border. Then you've got rural Texas, and then you've got Cor Houston, Cor Austin, and Cor Dallas. And they're like blue dots. And you look at what happened and what happened with Beto or Rorque. And so Beto or Rorque lost again. And you look at what happened and what happened with Beto O'Rourke. And so Beto O'Rourke lost again. And what was interesting about that is you look how we lost. He didn't lose his bad on the border communities

which stayed blue for him because of turnout. So she's right, there was a, the turnout was not down there. And I think they thought they had this thing covered. And even the polls were wrong on, you know, so Beto lost by more and the polls were off, but you have to look at where everything was. And it was really eye-opening, if you've got that map at some point,

to take a look at what the border communities were for Beto-errork versus the rest of the state. Beto was running for governor. He was running for governor. Yeah, I bet. So a quick question about Beto or Rorck versus the rest of the state. Beto was running for governor. He was running against Abbott. So, quick question about Beto. You lived in Texas for a decade and the same way. Has that guy won anything? No.

One's the last time he won anything. No, I mean, let's not statewide. You have to. So, this is the part, like all I'm thinking about is as a strategist. A few things you gotta be thinking about. So, by the way, this is called the reason why I ask who she lost who she lost to, guy named Vicente Gonzalez. If you by the way, this is called the reason why I ask who she lost, who she lost to guy named Vicente Gonzalez.

If you read the comments, go back to the Myra tweet that I just gave you, can you pull that up and just go to the comment section below, just zoom in a little bit so we can read what people are saying. What people are saying, zoom in, zoom in a little bit. It's not aligned, okay, there you go. Look at the first comment, a Democratic candidate with 2,000 Twitter followers beat you.

Let that sink in, you have 371,000 followers. Do you know Democratic congressman Vincent, Vincent Gonzales just panped just one over 2,000 followers. You got rejected, right? Go a little lower. Then he said out to Felicia, keep going lower, keep going lower, keep going lower, keep going lower, keep going lower. Wrong. We did our part. We showed up in record numbers and voted you out. Bye bye. Mass massive L, all this stuff that they say. Here's a part. I also don't know if I run a sales organization. And one of my sales guys goes out there and says,

well listen guys, you guys didn't show up and you didn't do your part. That's why we lost. You guys didn't sell. No, no, the leader gets the responsibility. I don't think this concept about you didn't go shaking off hands. I'd much rather put the honest on myself. If you look at Charlie Christie's first candidate ever to lose a statewide election as an independent, as a Republican, and as a Democrat, no one likes a flip flop.

Or is the reason why a John Kerry is not a president and his entire trajectory since he was in high school was this guy's one they're going to end up being a what he looks like a president he looks like a Lincoln if you put him side by side they have a similar kind of a look similar height he's a flip flap American people don't like that bit or or is just not a good leader he's not a candidate that's it's formidable so both the left and the right and certain areas chose somebody that was not good for that market. So a doctor, a man may have done better in a different market. You don't relate to Pennsylvania. So the candidate you chose for that market, a person that's worth $75 million, you want me to go on Pennsylvania, get the votes of people that are like, dude, I don't relate to you. You know, I don't

live your life. I don't have that. So there's some of these things. Now, Trump worked in the national, you know, a election as when he ran for office president, but he had a swagger, he pushed, Trump thought Oswald's maybe locked him. So both sides get a bit of a blame on NBA draft. Something went out this morning, Barstle Sports tweeted something which was so funny.

They showed a clip where the attorneys asking Michael Cohen in court, how many times, more than 100 times more, more than 200 times more, more than 500 times, about 500 times. And then Barstle Sports puts the amount of times the Oakland Raiders screwed up on the draft pick. Right? First draft pick.

The point is both sides picked the wrong candidate they got behind and you screwed up. So if you won in an area, great. If you're lost in an area, great. The one area you're saying issue, I agree with you on the fact that Roe v. Wade timing, but when they did it, I think Supreme Court was six, three, then it went to five, four,

so you didn't really wanna take the risk of waiting this long because it could have gone the other way. Anyway, so they kinda had to do it at the time. So it's easy for us to 5.4 so you didn't really want to take the risk of waiting this long because it could have gone the other way anyway so they kind of had to do it at the time so it's easy for us to say so it's too risky it's more 100% if I'm 6.3 go by the end of being 5.4 just so you know it didn't go 6.3 so if we would have been 5.4 and they would have done that maybe we'd have gone 4.5 so that's the risk that Republicans did take but if you're talking about winners and losers I'll give you my thoughts on winners and losers

hardcore winner at the top above everything is copy whatever policies the santa's did in the state of florida period that's number one i think you're right number one biggest winner is him rubia one it wasn't even close uh... the santa's one and i like his message i don't know if you heard the speech when he gave his speech by the way they announced him at like seven o'clock Yeah, four o'clock First thing oh, this one forget about it at 37% 60% they're like yeah

It's over with it's done with and then he got up and he says a lot of you because he didn't win the first time By widespread it was a very narrow merger the first time by widespread. It was a close margin. It was a very narrow margin. That was a thousand votes or something. 2018, yeah. I don't know what the number was. Maybe I'm wrong with 35,000, but it was a small margin.

Right, in fact, I'm gonna vote him over because it was such a close race. It was such a close race. It came in there and which hard for DeSantis. But this time he won by like 1.4, 1.5 million. So he said something. He says, I also want to thank many of you who didn't vote for me the first time.

But you're voting for me now. I want to thank many of you who didn't vote for me the first time. But you're voting for me now. I want to thank you for earning your vote. Yes. It's a very interesting messaging on what he's saying. So, Florida one, it's definitely not a win for Maga community. There's no question about it. That's not a win. I think, to be honest with you, I think the American voter, one, I think small business

kind of one, here's why, there's gonna be a gridlock, nothing's gonna get down to the next two years. If you don't like Biden, you're okay. If you don't like Republicans, you're okay. No one's gonna be able to push anything through. It's kinda gonna be like, next two years, you don't even need to see an NFOX right now for the next two years.

Maybe next six months, 12 months, next year, 2020. Focus on yourself, not politics. But the point being, there isn't anybody that's gonna sit there worried about anything's gonna be pushed through so in that part I think the winners also the small business owner, the American voter, I think those who don't like Nancy Pelosi are definitely very excited. Okay, the fact that you don't have to hear from her anymore. Okay, maybe even her husband is happy because she can spend more time with them

at the house. Maybe he's going to be off. You know, so who knows about what's going to happen at the house. You know, you don't care about these from Biggersville. Yeah. It's a hometown day. You talk about leadership and I think there's really something there and I'd like to ask you this question. It appears to me when you look at DeSantis, he had two crises, I remember the governors, we talked about this a first time here on the podcast, about how the governors are really, there's really only 51 CEOs in America, the president and 50 governors.

Everybody else is a legislator, if you think of it. The government can call the National Guard, he can do a lot of things, he's got executive orders, president got executive orders, you can do things like a CEO. He's got executive orders present. I got executive orders. You can do things like a CEO The santa's had two major crises COVID and hurricane Ian and in both cases He made choices that benefited his state three days. You rebuild the bridge Exactly you're talking about we got the bridge built and back in there to get emergency equipment and fresh water and things in there and he's walking around and people are making fun of him walking around on those white rubber boots but the point is

when he's been down I was looking at this as the guys been down there for a week he had a command center he's making decisions I think you got to give credit to the Florida voter that said this guy's doing a good job and he's doing things and I'm voting for him and so the surprise that well my Amidate should be automatic blue what's going on here? I think people looked at that when you were governor Did you feel there's my question? Did you feel that when you did things and leadership was on display that it would Trump the standard not mean Trump a bit would overpower just walking in the voting booth and pulling the one party lever Oh, absolutely

I have the misfortune of getting reelected because I think I did a good job as governor and then of course Calamity came and had to go away for eight years, but no of course you run as the incumbent on your record if you have one and If you've done a good job most of the time, if not all the time, the people as Bill Clinton used to say almost always get it right. And they reward you for that. And I think your analysis of Governor DeSantis' performance as the governor taking strong positions, sticking to him, handling the emergency that happened, which was frankly a political benefit to him, because the ability to be able to handle a crisis and do it in the middle of a campaign

where the other guy's campaigning and you look like you are being a leader and you're doing things for the people it's a tremendous political advantage that he had. I want to point out it was a big win for him. I don't know that Charlie Chris was such a good candidate. Rubio did almost as good as DeSantis. So it's a bigger trend than just DeSantis. It's a Republican trend in Florida.

And I think it would have happened in other places. Had there been the decision from the Supreme Court didn't happen, and had there been better candidate's running. Candidate quality makes a big difference. And if you're disappointed because it didn't go completely your way, there's a lot of hope for the Republican party because what's happening now in America, gradually, it's a gentle political realignment. Latinos increasingly are voting

Republican, leaving the Democratic Party. Black men are little by little, leaving the Democratic Party, leaving what Harold Washington, the first African-American mayor of Chicago called plantation politics, leaving that politics of dependency, government, Democrats just giving your crumbs, but not really investing in the community and giving people a chance to have opportunities. They are moving slowly to the Republican party. Where the Republican party is losing are those suburban women, white suburban women, and notwithstanding that poll by the

Wall Street Journal that said there was a 27-point shift of right of Republican suburban white women. I still think when they made the decision to go vote, I think a lot of them just said, I don't want government or men telling me what I can do about my body. I agree with you. I think that that was a big, I think to, like going back to that, I think it was a big issue. I think it was a much bigger issue than a lot than a lot of people predicted it would be. I think that the Republican Party, when it came down to that message, thought that all the Republicans and conservatives were gonna back up that message, and they didn't.

Because even though I'm pro-life, and I still don't think the government should tell people what to do with their body, I just don't, I mean, I just don't. And so, and I'm very deep rooted in my beliefs. And I still don't think the government has any business telling people what to do. Because here when it comes down to it's it goes back to hypocrisy right like if you wanted the vaccine or didn't want the vaccine you know like you were you wanted to have a choice with that but you don't want to give women the choice even if you don't agree with it I think it was a bad bad bad bad messaging for

the Republican Party. It ended up being the COVID of this election. Yeah good point. Well, the point. What was it? The abortion. Yeah. No one realized it, but the abortion decision ended up being the COVID issue of this election. Yeah, we keep going back. Back to the premise of candidates, right?

I think Chris Christie was becoming more of just a normal, moderate voice that's needed in America. He had said something very profound yesterday Speaking of you know you being a candidate and being in a incumbent. He said Being an incumbent and being competent is a lethal mix. So look at Lethal in a good way. Look at a Ron DeSantis He was the incumbent and he was very competent blowout. So you've been looking Georgia Brian camp. Yeah He blew out Stacey Abrams out of the water. He was the incumbent and that was very competent blowout. So you've been looking Georgia, Brian Camp. Yeah. He blew out Stacey Abrams out of the water.

He was the incumbent. And that was real close four years ago. Very close four years ago. Against Stacey Abrams. Now it wasn't even close. And he, you know, he earned speaking of suburban women. He carried a lot of favor in Georgia for staining up to Trump.

Okay. So Trump is like, he's rooting against certain Republicans, he's kinda, if you're on team Maga, he's rooting for you, but if Brian Campwood just won, he's rooting against wildly, but back to candidates, so like you brought up Federman.

So men at odds. Oh my God. Here's a guy that talk about national presence, everyone's seen him on TV for a decade and have. OK? He's not even from Pennsylvania. He loses to the modern day week-and-and-and-and Bernies. This guy just had a stroke six months ago.

They're propping him up there on strings like Pinocchio. And you can't beat that guy? I mean, what is going on here? Like the candidacy, and he was hand picked by Donald Trump. Well, that's another issue about figuring out a way where these different states have different ways of voting. In Pennsylvania, over a million people voted before that debate where Federman had his difficulties.

And they were overwhelmingly probably federal and votes. And I wonder if there hadn't been that early of an early vote. Had they been in debate before the early voting? But there's also like different. There's also sound bites that resonate. So for instance, what was like Ronald Reagan's

famous sound buddies like? There you go again. What was that? There you go. Exactly. And it's like like I'm not gonna let My age or what was that whole age my agent in experience Soundbites but the soundbite in that Pennsylvania election is like hygen of vote for us He's a cowboys fan now if you live in Pennsylvania and you're a Steelers fan Steelers country

Eagles and that guy or an Eagles or Eagles are same to this Who a good friend of mine Dylan bet David thinks is gonna win the Super Bowl this year because he's got you know and you're Steelers fan, Steelers country. Eagles. And that guy or an Eagles fan. Oh, Eagles are same to this. Who a good friend of mine, Dylan Bet David thinks is going to win the Super Bowl this year, because he's got those skills like that. But if you're identified as a Cowboys fan in PA, you're not winning, homie. So that's it.

Let me read this. Let me read this. Let me read this. You know as a bulls fan, as a bears fan. From yesterday, CNN, Federman Seuss to have mail-in ballots counted, even if not signed with valid dates. This is a CNN story, OK?

About Federman. About Federman. The question of whether mail-d ballots with incorrect or missing dates can be counted in one of the hottest voting disputes in the pivotal state leading up to election day, and a divided Pennsylvania Supreme Court recently ordered counties to refrain from counting male ballots with missing or invalid dates on their outer envelopes.

So Pennsylvania Democratic Senate nominee John Federman and voters his campaign has aligned with hoping the federal court will supersede the state's court decision that date instruction imposes unnecessary hurdles that eligible Pennsylvanians must clear to exercise their most fundamental right resulting in otherwise valid votes being arbitrarily rejected without any reciprocal benefit of the Commonwealth. The date on a male ballot envelope thus has no bearing on a voter's qualification and serves no purpose other than to erect barriers to qualified voters exercising their fundamental

constitutional right to vote. This unnecessary impediment violates the Civil Rights Act in the first and 14 amendment to the US Constitution. What do you think about what Federman says here when he's saying he's gonna sue? He probably won't sue now that he's been projected. But do you agree with him on what he's like? Is that?

No, I think we have to tighten up these laws. That's what I'm saying. When your story is like this, what do you mean if signatures are missing still to count, if dates are missing still to count? These are the types of things when you say, and Adam, you talk about the election denier, I think what that does when people, because here's what's going to happen. Now, you know how you categorize somebody as a Trump person. That person's automatically going to be judged because they're a Trump person, right? That's right. That guy is a f*****

anti-battery label. He's a election denar. He's a this. He's a that. Here's what I'm for. I'm for if like in Florida, they were trying to do something with around the census. He says, we're not pulling this off here. Story came out about what the census said two days ago. I think even yesterday, Florida rejects federal monitors inside polling places, not permitted. The DeSantis administration warned Biden's Department of Justice, late Monday, that federal election,

they poll monitors are not permitted. Inside polling places, under Florida law, and set on Friday, will send its own monitors to ensure there is no interference to the voting process. On Monday the DOJ released a list of 64 jurisdictions with 24 states in which the department plans to send attorneys to monitor for compliance with federal voting rights laws on election day included on that list was Broward, Miami date and Palm Beach County in Florida, Brad McVey, General Counsel to Florida's Department of State said the section 102 point is got all these things. You have the Florida Statues, statues,

list of people who may enter any polling room or polling place, Department of Justice personnel, are not included on this list. So, you know, the Santer's is saying, you know, get out of this place, Federer, I'm in a saying, we should count these guys as signatures not being counted. Kerry Lake is telling voters go from Maricopa County to Phoenix, because Phoenix is more liberal. None of the machines have an issue. The other ones have an issue. Some people are waiting in line 3, 4, 5 hours.

These are the types of things that get people to say, if we have technology the way that we do today, why can't we make this more compliant, clear, easy that we can trust? You know in Florida, whatever you vote, you can go on a website, look at your vote, track it to see if it was counted or not, state of Florida does that. You know how many states you can do that in? Not many. In many states, you can't even figure out if you vote counted or not. You don't know, it's just kind of like the they counted or not. Ah, just trust us, we got it. So I think, I do think whoever, like I think was Ron Paul says, you know, I'm going to make it my mission to go after Fauci on every single thing,

moving forward the next two years, and you know he's going to be doing it. Where she did? You know he's going to be doing it, right? But I also think there's got to be a more, because a part of when people say things like Ricky is saying, they don't think their vote's going to count. There's a lot of people also feel that way. I don't think it's just Hispanics. There's a lot of people that say, I don't know if my vote's going to count or not. I think we got to get people to trust that a little bit more than they do today. The last six years, trust has gone

a little bit lower in these voting methods that we have. We can streamline that to increase trust in the voting methods that we have. We can streamline that to increase trust in the voting methods that we have. Can I get in here real quick? And I just want to call it a whole heartily, really with what you're saying. If you're asking me what is probably the biggest, short-term challenge in America, isn't the issue of saving the democracy. That was a bunch of hyperbole and baloney. You can swear here, right?

A lot of bullshit, because if the Republicans had a wave. These are talking points. Yeah, and it did speak to a whole group of Democrats because they the Republicans had a wave. These are talking points. Yeah, and it's interesting. But it did speak to a whole group of Democrats because they have such distrust for Republicans. On the other hand, when you talk about election denial, there's real reasons that people don't trust the electoral system.

There is real fraud. I come from Chicago. Obama and I both know how that happens and how it's done in big cities. Now, did that change the outcome of the last presidential election? It doesn't make any sense to dig that up and keep talking about it. You should move forward. But to get trust of the American people

to believe in the integrity of these elections is critical and a Republican House can do a great service to the American people. If they push something that streamlines the process nationwide, in doing it in a way where there's certain guidelines that every state has to follow so that the people can trust the outcome. They'll be more apt to vote and they'll be more willing to accept the other side winning if they honestly think it was a fair game. But right now-

But they have to be able to- But Maricopa, this is a second time they have issues. They did it during the 2020 election where they were saying their machines were counting if you were willing to republic it was all of a sudden going democrat it was an accident. Maricopa's already lost their credibility when it comes onto that. Like when they were bringing up Maricopa, I was like, oh here we go again,

that's what went through my mind. It wasn't like, oh, oh, that's the, oh wow, no. Like no, so at the same point it gets so pretty where people were just tired of the bullshit. And you know, you come from that, so you're gonna know, but I think that power corrupts, and I believe that, you know, we learn that in the Bible, Bible teaches us that, and I'm gonna tell you that,

I think that once you find a way to win, and you can get away with it once on such a big scale, I am 100% I will say publicly, I do not care whatever it is what it is, we all have our opinions, and I 100% do not believe the 2020 election was fair election, I do believe it was rigged. That's all there is to it. There's nobody convinced me otherwise. But the point is this that I believe that once you get away with something, I such a big scale, the way they in my head, again, this is 100% my opinion.

This is not something I'm trying to shove under down the other people. So I don't even talk about this subject. But once you figure out once you figure like dude if we can put the president office Do we can pick our senators to we can pick our governors too? I think once you figure out a way to achieve what you're gonna do in multiple times in certain states in certain states Of course, of course, of course, yes in certain states which which by the way It's one of the reasons why that's all you need to flip a house. No, you're right. I don't disagree with you. You're right.

But all I'm saying to you is, it's also the reason why we moved our media company to Florida. Yeah. It's also why Texas is still winning. It's also why a musk and a rogan and others move to Austin and they're moving to Texas because that model worked under COVID. It's also why a purple state like Florida is turning red

because people are saying, listen man, I feel a little bit more comfortable living in a place like this, but you're absolutely right. Again, when Dems put the blanket statement on you to say he's an election denier. Listen, these are very, very effective methods. Let me give you some words. Okay, some words that you put somebody in, how differently people look at that person.

Okay. If somebody calls somebody Q, that person's career may be over. Okay. If somebody calls somebody Q, that person's career could be over. If somebody calls somebody a racist, that person's career could be over. If somebody calls somebody a racist, that person's career may be over. If somebody calls somebody an anti-Semite, that person's career may be over,

election denier, anti-vax, how many of these do we have? We have so many of these that we can put there, right? And what that does is, unfortunately, get some people to be quiet and say, well, I'm definitely not going to touch up on that topic. No, I still think the average person doesn't fully trust the voting process. And by the way, I think that's on the left and right. I think the average person doesn't trust whether they vote really matters as well as whether the system they really trust or not. I think two today people on both sides still feel that way.

I could tell you right now there's certain people on the left that are sitting there saying, how is it even possible for Kerry Lake to be so close? She just, who is she? She was a fox, a local TV and she's now, who is she to have that kind of, I guarantee you there's people on the left that are sitting. How can that person want that county?

How is it even possible that this can be happening? So if both sides have a little bit uncomfortable thing about this, let's just make some progress on this part here and Some people this the part if you want to find out For example if you want to find out somebody that is not happy with their body fat percentage How do you find out? You know like look for example? Fastest way hey guys, you know what we want to do. What What's that let's all get on the scale and see how much we wait if a person says what no? Yeah, I'm good bad, but don't but if some if a person says that what are they saying to you? They're not happy with me. They're embarrassed with what their weight is that right if we say hey

Let's do everybody's body fat percentage. No, man. I'll skip this. I got to go to the bathroom. I still make her it's right if If everybody in the room says, guys, why don't we use technology to make our election process smoother, more accurate. If the people in the room say, no, guess what? You're worried about your weight. That's my concern. If you are about progress, let's make progress with

technology as well. Because we got plenty of bright people that can do it. By the way, you know what I do like? Here's what I do like. You know how you order something from whoever you order and they give you a tracking number on FedEx and you go on FedEx and what does it say? Right now it's on a ship and such and such. It just got to the port and Jacksonville. It's coming to the dealer. Yes, what? I freaking love that. So I'm like, okay, it's going to be here by Tuesday. Fantastic.

Why can't there be that for us to know your vote is officially in the process? It officially got counted. Here's where you vote is. Great. I think there's going to be many different things like that we can do. And by the way, to say running on the Myra floors, not

enough people showed up. Campaign, I don't think that's a necessary issue to run on. But to say, why don't we make it more fair and honest? You know, the whole story when people say, do I need to show my idea at TSA? Yes. What do we do global entry for? What do we do clear for?

Why am I show my idea when I'm buying alcohol? Why am I doing all this stuff? Why don't we make these things more streamlined? Those are basic topics that a person will say. I agree with that. If I go to a club and I got a show my ID, fine, let's figure out a way to make this thing a little bit tighter.

And I think that is a topic that people want to know more about. I just want to say one thing about a like a major thing that I've learned, like anyone that watches P.B.D. podcast for the last two years has probably seen my progression, especially in terms of politics. Like I think I've gone from what I would consider like a JFK Democrat, Clinton Democrat, to more of like a just full on moderate right now.

I voted for rondis and just to be clear so you know all the it's just a lot of adam communist whatever whatever whatever like i voted for rondis and it's just to be clear here but we always say this that the the the independent voter the independent mind in america is the most important voter in america so for instance ricky there's zero% chance.

Zero, you'd vote for a Democrat, yes? And hell would have to free you. Exactly. So, and there's also no big deal. No, but zero. Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on.

I'm going to come back to my party. You get a chance. All right. There's also a 0% chance that a far left BLM guy, whatever, whatever vote for Donald Trump. But where I like where I'm at right now, and maybe this is my message, is to be free from the constraints of your party is a very free feeling.

And to be able to kind of be an umpire and call balls and strikes and say, yeah, you kind of fucked up here. No, you guys messed up here. That. So today, there's everyone wants to live in, well, that's my truth. That's my truth. Well, there's the truth. And then there's my truth. So for instance, you said Ricky, I don't

care what you say. I don't care what evidence you show me. I never said that. Hold on. That's not what I said. You said, hold on. You said, I don't care what evidence you show me. I never said that. I will never not believe that 2020 election was not stolen. That's exactly what you said. No, I said, there's nothing you could tell me to convince me. Exactly, because the evidence is there that it was stolen. Okay, so my point is this, no matter how hard somebody tries,

if the Supreme Court, I don't give a shit about the Supreme Court. But this is my point, brother, that you don't give a shit. If the six threes supreme court Came down and said by the way. We've looked at everything Joe Biden is the winner of the 2020 election You still wouldn't let me take let me tell you one thing because you're living my true No, no, no, no, no, no, let me tell you one thing. Okay. I get you gotta remember I've said of at its core. I've lived in it.

It's very different when you live in a country where I want to give you an example. The one that's president right now, he ran against another guy two elections ago and they stole it from him. And as a matter of even during, it's crazy, his name is, it's, shit, Amlo, Amlo. In Mexico. In Mexico. The current president of Mexico, during our election said something's wrong.

They had already stolen an election from him. The guy sat there from a different country, looked at everything he said said that election is rigged When a person has had a stolen election He's been running president many times and finally the president now sits back and says bro, that's bullshit From another country from a country that I come from we see things from a whole different perspective that the people think like America's like this perfect country wherever he's fine, everything's good and the government's all intact bullshit. There's DEA agents and CIA agents in Mexico training the

cartels right now. So it's it missed me with the whole or the Supreme Court fuck the Supreme Court because I think that's excuse my language. I think the reality is this I've seen corruption at its core. And when you have DA and CIA agents in Mexico training the cartels, you can't convince the other whites. That's fine. But here's my response. And we see what's going on in Brazil right now. We see what's going on in Mexico.

But let me go back. Hold on, hold on. This is fucking America. No, no, no, no, no, that's the 90th part of you. No, no, no, no, no. That's the 90th part of you. The difference between. That's the 90th to think that of you. The difference between you and me to think that. Okay.

The difference between America and the rest of these fucking put a anti-motherfrippin' other countries out there is that we believe in the peaceful transition of power. Now, you can quote me on this in our quote Bill Maher, come 2024, whether Trump gets blown out or not, he will say that he won the election. He will claim that it was rigged. He claimed that 2016 was rigged, and he won, dog.

So like, since Donald Trump has showed up on the scene, the Democrats will agree. Every election is rigged. What do Hillary Clinton do? What do you think, what do you think, what do you think, what do you think, what do you think, what do you think, what do you think, what do you think,

what do you think, what do you think, what do you think, what do you think, what do you think, what do you think, what do you think, what do you think, what do you think, what do you think, that. Prior to that, you know who had the biggest Hillary Clinton just came out 2024 she's gonna be stolen. She's two years from now. I'm not even worried. He's already talking about what are you talking about Trump? But Hillary's the one doing it right in 2004. The closest election we've ever had in our history, Al Gore in the state of Florida when George W. Bush barely won Florida. P.S. who was the governor of Florida at that time? Oh his brother? Yeah. Jet Bush. How about that time? Oh, his brother? Yeah. Jet Bush, how about that dog? He even said, you know what?

This thing called America is bigger than me. I will say that you won the election. George W. Bush have it. Peaceful transition of power. Donald Trump does not believe in that. He does not believe in the peaceful transition. Would you believe in it too, which is a good deal?

And of course, he's been echoing that sentiment for the last five years. And of course, you're going to stand with him. Let me tell you real quick, I don't know if Pat wants to continue. I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say on the subject. When I tell you that we'll never, never vote Democrat, it's not because of how I feel. It's simply because they do not align with any of my beliefs politically tax civil social in any way shape or form I they do not align with anything that I believe in and that's really nothing to do with feelings as everything to do with me with me looking at

facts it's the party of slavery it's the party of Jim Crow it's the party of the KKK and they switched the 1960s because it was no longer popular to be racist and they switched JLBJ say I'm going gonna have these ends voting democrat for 200 years so they just switched tactics like what back when he was saying earlier uh... when it was this governor or senator said that it was a plantation politics i 100% believe that's a democrat party so therefore i cannot vote or even fathom the idea of voting for something that I know does not align with what I believe in and the history of the party and who they have been and what they represent and how they destroy

everything. The 10 worst cities in the country are ran by Democrats. It's so easy to be a Democrat in a Republican state. Try being a Democrat, a Republican in a Democrat state where everything they touch goes to shit. So therefore, I'm, I'm, I live in it. I live in the shit. You know what's great about that? So therefore, I can't live like, Ricky, you said, I'm, I want to come to you because in a minute, but I want to say, I saw a tweet the other day,

where a 30, 29 year old girl says, for 28 years, I've been a Democrat. Last year, I just became a Republican. She says, it's so funny, therefore, 28 years while I was a Democrat, all my Republican friends were so patient with me. Yep. But for one year that I've been a Republican,

none of my Democratic friends even one associate with me. We're not tolerant. It's so funny that Republicans were so tolerant with me, Democrats were not. Here's the other part out of the picture. Yeah, but I gotta say that's a bullshit state. No, it's not bullshit.

No, it's not bullshit. I believe that. Let me, let me say the other part. The other part is also the following. When you're talking about Trump and naive and all that other stuff, bro, you believed in Russia, who looks for three years with no proof.

35,000 orders paid by Hillary Clinton. You believed in it. And tens of millions of people believed in it because of selective hearing because you couldn't stand one guy. No, because of the media. So, well, but that's also a form of being naive because you chose to believe. You're a grown man.

It's not like you were 17 years old. You were going to think I'm the only one that was naive, but that's not the point. That's the problem. That's the problem. That's also problem. Just like half the country is falling for election denialism. But, but that's so they're naive. But, but so if you want to pick naive friends, here's a difference. Here's a difference also on and looking at me. There's a big difference. There's a big difference. Let's just say this part. And I'm, we're going to go to the only person that has all the experience Here to talk about this and it's right. So we're gonna go to a minute

Here's a difference Could they show one thing proof that there was anything involved with Russia? No zero None is there proof to show that there's been fraud and elections in the last six years? Yes, was it enough to flip? Not yet and no. That's the only difference. There is proof. Just not at the level to say, wow, we're going to change the city or that city. There is zero proof on the Russia hoax part. Zero. Proof on the Russia hoax part. So it's important to know both of these sides. I mean, look, today is a day where Republicans can't talk a big game, but it's is a day where Republicans can't talk a big game,

but it's also a day that Democrats can't talk a big game. Neither side can talk a big game today. It's gridlock. So neither side is right, neither side is wrong, and neither side, both sides are also right and wrong. Makes sense? So both sides have something to be right about and wrong about. Both sides have something to be right and wrong about. It's not like something you can sit there and brag about, but we did learn something that this Roe v. Wape issue was a real issue. Right. The only person here that has a kind of experience in a state that's been Probably at the top in the country for corruption when it comes on to elections going all the way back to the mobs involvement Kennedy, you know more Governors in your state have gone to jail

Then I think any other state and you you said earlier yourself you went for eight years as well because of something about You know how you there was a negotiation on the call and the recall we've already talked about that on the last But yes, I don't want to be a chef. Yeah, yeah, so so you you went and against the most powerful Democrat Who was out there campaigning the last two week, which is Barack Obama? There's not a Democrat more powerful than Obama right now, right? Minus the guys that are putting the money George Soros, but as far as the voice goes, right is Barack Obama How much of what you listen to Adam and Ricky going back and forth and you were a Democratic governor? It's very important for people to know that how much credibility is there on the gamesmanship on a manipulation on all that stuff going behind closed doors

Look I really appreciated that conversation was spirited and it really was a microcosm of America, Adam. Yeah, 100%. And that certainly emotion, the anger, the energy involved in it all kind of really highlights the divisions in our country. And I think it goes down to fundamental trust.

I'm not going to belabor the point. I didn't break a law across the line or take a penny. It was a corrupt prosecution. I would have never believed it had it not happened to me. You think those are the good guys? They would look for the law and do the law, and that makes stuff up or lie or cover up evidence. Having said that, I have to go through all of that.

I'm finally home. Look to the future. I believe the best thing this new Republican House can do for our country, Democrats and Republicans. To restore trust is we've got to have election integrity to such an extent that the american people can believe in the process they have very real reasons not to believe in it i don't know who wonder who did we

by the was declared the winner i don't want to really get all of that but the fact is a lot of people don't think that was a fair game do i believe uh... fraud exists vote fraud and cheating in elections? I know it as a fact coming out of Chicago politics. I also know it.

It's been in six years in Congress. And hearing stories about the Democrats from Philadelphia and Detroit and other big cities. Now do Republicans steal votes in places where they control polling apparatus? I'm sure they do its human nature. We've got to fix this system. The Democrats go out and run saved democracy, democracies at stake. I think in this past election, that's projection.

Let's see if they really want to save democracy. If the Republicans are willing to put their country first, pass something like guidelines to dictate the states that they got to do certain things like Florida did and Georgia did to clean up their electoral process. I think that's probably the best service that they can do for our country and in the long run, it's going to save our democracy. I predict the Democrats will characterize it as something other than what it is, if the

Republicans even do it, and you'll see gridlock because they have a different parties have a vested interest in how certain things are. Right. Right, is it fair to say the criticism Democrats give to the right is the way they manipulate elections is through gerrymandering and that's kind of what they specialize in. Yes. And the criticism Republicans will give the left is they do election fraud and that's kind of how they do it to win elections.

So it's like, if you're going to do gerrymandering, we're going to do this, but if you're going to do this, we're going to do that. Is there a fair criticism that each side gives to the other side? I think the varying degrees are both guilty of that. I think the Republicans more so on the gerrymandering. Right. I think Democrats more so on the stealing votes. But let me tell you, Republicans in places

that they control stuff and no one's looking, human nature and being what it is, they're taking some votes, too. It's how it is. It's sort of built into the system. It should be fixed. It must be fixed so we can trust our country and our democracy because through the hard experience I've been through

and you can think I'm full of shit and that I did the things they said I did, I didn't. They were legal, every one of them. Obama started, he came to me to make a political deal, we had conversations, he went to the White House, they threw my ass into the shit house. And I wouldn't give in, I keep fighting to this day. I learned the-

Because the last synod seed, right? The synod seed, which was ultimately reversed by the Appellate Court that can ever uphold that standard because that was a political deal Obam wanted to make with me and they put me there for fun raising I didn't break that law either but having said that so I learned lessons you can't really and by the way for some people that are not familiar with you were a star that was coming up that would have ran for presidency you some people even looked at you as you have a very big upside that it wasn't just about

governor for you. And that's kind of what was going on. And you guys are both from the same state. So it's a lot of competition they're going on as well. I was the first Democrat governor 26 years in Illinois, which is a microcosm of America. At the time it was the fifth largest state. I think it's sixth now. We have everything in Illinois.

I like the United States. And I was sort of like the new face on the block. And there were some people that were speculating, Obama came two years later. We both knew each other in the state legislature. He has great skill and talent. Life is how it is. Sometimes it doesn't go your way.

Abby said that. Here we are, looking to the future. I think this new house, Republican majority, however small it might be, or not as big as they had expected it was going to be. I do think that resolving the way we do elections and pushing the states to have some sort of rules that they have to follow, because we have those for federal crimes, these mandates that federal laws have. Why not do it for these elections? So we can have elections in other states like they had in Florida, like they have in Georgia now, because they fixed what was wrong in Florida

that have now made it where people trust the system. like they had in Florida, like they have in Georgia now, because they fixed what was wrong in Florida that have now made it where people trust the system. Can I just say one thing about even my, you said the Ricky and I, the microcosm of America, what people don't see behind the scenes is when we're not on air, we're homies. Oh, yeah. We're asking about each other's lives or family or whatever,

and that's indicative of what I think what needs to happen to America, even if we have a difference of opinion. And I'm a moderate person, whether it's politics, whether it's lifestyle, like I'm not too far left or extreme either way, okay? Americans, we're at this point in America today where the other side is the enemy.

The other side is evil. If you voted for Donald Trump, you are a bad American. If you didn't vote for Republican, you are my enemy. And I think that is such a sad point in where we're on America today. We can disagree, we can talk shit, we can have dialogue and have, but at the end of the day, I would say there's a 90% of things we agree upon. We want be healthy, we wanna make money, we wanna have friends, we want our family to succeed, we want our kids to grow up in a nice neighborhood.

Yeah, we might disagree on when someone should have an abortion or should you have a certain type of gun or not, or how much immigration should impact America. These are very minor nuances that we will disagree upon, but 90% of the time you're gonna agree. So what you need to do is like Thanksgiving's coming up. You know, you see T-shirts coming along like, make sure you get in a fight with your family member

on Thanksgiving, it'll save you money on Christmas. Right, you don't have to give your family Christmas gifts. Ha, ha, ha. But let's not forget who the real enemy is. I think people know that, though. I think people know the fact. If they watch our audience, they know how you guys are buddies and we have relationships.

But there's 7,000, 8,000 people, they might not know that. Yeah, but the point is like, by the way, shout out to Scott Rodriguez, member four months, he said something that puts his interest in. This is so sad, but I knew nothing would change. And Joe Rogan would be wrong. My mother is a Cuban Catholic and against abortion, but was against Roe v. Wade. She still voted Republican, but wasn't happy about abortion. That's an issue, right? I want to go to a couple of

these guys on what they said. Can I finish what I was saying? But who the real enemy is? I want to come to you here. Ali Baba's new member. We have a rock and roll CEO, a new member. There's a guy that just gave a super chat and he made a point. I want to ask you guys, but if you want to wrap up your point here, because we got so many things to do. Ultimately, I'm trying to say this. The other side of the aisle is not your enemy. No.

Okay? No one in a mirror. I'm not talking. Yeah, there might be some fringe person on the left and the right that you probably have made. Yeah. And does the agreement with? But let's not forget, China is still coming.

By 2025, China by 2030, that's the enemy. That's who we're competing against. Let's not forget that. Sometimes Adam Alexander de Graves quotes, till today, when I started the insurance company, day one, September 23rd, 19th. I had a meeting till four o'clock in the morning in our office,

85.50, Bob Bolevard. And I sat down with seven people that we started the insurance company with. And I said, two of you guys will flip and we'll turn against the company. All of you guys are excited right now, but two of you guys are gonna flip. And it's gonna happen within three to six months.

Within three to six months, two flipped against us. One was at a run that we were doing a charity run that we took 200 people to participate for this charity run that we did and another one flip because a husband and a wife went through a divorce. It was very obvious. I said, Alexander the great quote applies to every aspect of life. This is a thing I tell my kids. I have met the enemy. It is I. Okay. People will try to divide internally America. If America was a human being, America has met met the enemy. It is I. It is us. It is us now realizing that people within can be bought, can be sold, our foresealed. It's very, very hard to find people that you cannot buy them. It's very, very hard to find people that cannot be bought. You know the saying, everybody has a price

stack. I don't believe everybody has a price stack. I don't think everybody. If a person offered right now to buy value to me for billion dollars, do you think that's the right now for billion dollars? You think I would sell 100% of my content 100% of podcasts 100% of everything and have no control over it. You think we would sell it today What do you think no? I don't think you a cuz you don't need the money and a you appreciate having a voice And I think that you are one of the select few people that can't be bought but I think it should be said Most people can be bought. But I think it should be said, most people can be bought, not all. You're right. So the point is, those people that can't be bought today, they need to get a little louder

and get a little bit more involved because we need those guys to rise up. Yesterday I had a girl that was interviewing here. Her name is Leah. I don't know her last name. So Leah was interviewing me here. She's talking about what he thinks is gonna happen with America, with all these challenges we're facing

and economic, world economic, forum, these challenges we're facing and you know economic world economic forum Clouds drop all those conversations, right? I said you're waking up to true strong men and women behind closures that were just chilling You just woke them up. That's all you did and those people are waking up and Elon Musk if we were to ask Elon Musk 10 years ago Five years ago is five years ago, is it in your business plan to buy Twitter one day? What do you think he would say? Zero.

What caused him to buy Twitter? What happened the last two and a half years during calculations? COVID got people to say, listen man, I'm willing to go here and tolerate some shit. You crossed the line with me. You're telling me what to do with my kids. You're telling me what to do with my this. The same mothers and women that are anti-abortion, rovy, weight, all of that, you have to also

realize, we forget, are the same mothers that were against CRT, are the same mothers that are against trans, you guys know what's his name, the prime minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau, is the first person to go on a trans show as a world leader. That's becoming a normal thing. Some parents are like, I'm not having that. You know, I'm not having you talking about this stuff in my school. I'm not having a Congresswoman, the other day, they said, what's wrong with trans people being out school?

There are a lot more funding, regular people. I love hanging out. Who doesn't love to hang out with trans people? Those are the types of things that parents are going to say, dude, let's just pump the brakes right there. So I'm with you, but I want to read this, I want to read this super chat that just came in and I want to get your feedback.

Gabriel Sanchez. We have to also remember, Donald Trump does not have the voice he had with Twitter. Also, the Dems are target marketing Gen Z. Do you think if Trump was on Twitter the last six months it would have made any difference on what happened last night? No.

Any one of you. You're saying it would have got worse. Okay, Tyler's saying all of you, you're saying no as well, or do you think he would have been able to influence some of it? I don't know, but I would say this real quick,

maybe at the end of this, I could just pick my case on why I wouldn't write Donald Trump off yet. I think he's very much still the front runner to be the Republican nominee. We can talk about that a little bit. The Santos was a big winner. He has presidential aspirations. I think it's obvious.

But I have to say that one thing about Donald Trump has been written off many times and he always comes back. And when that billy Bush tape came out during the race with Hillary and the whole Republican establishment started abandoning their nominee and reerging him to get out during the race with Hillary and the whole Republican establishment started abandoning their nominee and were urging him to get out of the race. Who to thought he would have endured and survived and overcome that. So it's a very different day in politics today. My hope for President Trump, I have a bias, of course, I'm grateful for what he did for me.

And I think he's really led our country in many ways in a positive direction. I think it's part of this alignment. We aligned it. That's appealing to Latino voters and black men and all the rest joined the Republican Party. I think President Trump has reached out to a different voting block and group to try to broaden the Republican Party

and recognize the demographics shifts in our country. I'd like to see him become more the uniter. And I don't know he has that in him. Can I ask you a question? You're Chicago. So Chicago, you know who's the greatest basketball player of all time. You're right. You're right.

Okay, Michael Jordan's the greatest basketball player of all time, right? You believe that? I do, and I had dinner with him once. It was fantastic. You put him as the cream of the crop. Number one. It's a fair to say we all believe the same. He's the greatest of all time.

Okay, fair enough. Michael Jordan over LeBron James. Any day of the worst. So let me ask, there's no Jordan deniers here, right? No Jordan. But here's a question though. Well me ask, there's no Jordan deniers here. No Jordan. But here's a question though. Well here's a question though. Here's a question.

Be Michael Jordan for a second. Okay. The saying has been, he's the Jordan of, dot, dot, dot. And that's been the case for 25 years. Okay. That label, the name, if you were to say how many times people said he's the Jordan of That that the number is gonna be in a billion. It's we're using it regularly, right? Brady doesn't have that nobody says Gretzky nobody says Willie mage nobody says Babe Ruth everybody says the MJ the Jordan Okay, do you think Jordan deep down inside?

Is a little bit threatened about Lebron passing them up? You think Jordan a little bit inside is not happy about the fact that if LeBron passes 40,000 points, you know, if he wins one more chip, gets five, do you think the market's gonna start saying, listen, and I think that got, do you think he's threatened by at all? No. You're saying zero. I'm saying no.

You're saying zero or no? I'm saying he's not threatened. Okay. M.J. has the number one mantle. What would you say, Rod? What would you say? I would say yes. He's not threatened. Okay MJ has the number one mantle. What would you say right? What would you say? I would say yes. I would say incredibly competitive. I think he's what makes him try to be competitive Yes, like the comment about hey, what do you think about this kid Kobe Bryant who he's guarding you? Well, he stole all my moves like that's still a dig right? He stole all my

Guys about the Santa's right so so that's the part where for me you know The comment he made, you know, Trump just made a comment. He said what, you know, this, this sanctimonious, right? He says Trump mocks, governor of the sentence, has run the sanctimonious at Pennsylvania Rally. How do you think Trump is feeling last night? Going to sleep, not even going to sleep. He's up all night last night,

because Marjorie Green, Carrie Lake, all these guys, he's making phone calls, he's doing speeches, he's doing all this stuff. How do you think he feels that no matter what he looks, what he reads, everyone's talking about the Santas? Knowing him as a true competitor that he has to come into room and everybody stops for him, how do you think he feels knowing the Santas

is now the superstar of the right? Like Michael Jordan and LeBron James, just like that. And Trump is a tremendous competitor, and the presidential race is a marathon, not a sprint. And to Santa's looks really good right now, Trump didn't have the best possible night. On the other hand, some of his candidates still won. JD Vance won very well.

I still think Carrie Lake is gonna win in the next one. By the way, nobody thought that was gonna be happening. JD Vance wasn't like it was gonna be a slam dunk win. You know what we take gonna take a look. He was out, spent four to one. Yeah, exactly. So you still think Herelix gonna win? I do, and I still think put your money on Trump

to be the Republican nominee. You can have a lot of candidates in that race. DeSantis is very compelling, but he's LeBron James to Michael Jordan among among Republican voters. And when you have a split vote like that, 35% of the loyal die-hard Trump voters are going to carry Trump to victory in most of those primaries. But if you're watching this podcast, we can fit 300 people here. We're going to do a live podcast with people being able to come here live,

but we're going to do it when we cross 500,000 subs. If you're enjoying this format, the set, and what we're doing, give us a sub, click on the notification, and give us a thumbs up. Do you agree with Roger, said Adam? About Trump and the Santis, the fact that, you know, the Santis is LeBron, Trump is Jordan. In this kind of an argument.

Clearly, Trump is threatened by the Santis. Clearly, Trump views himself as the holy of all holies. To use the Michael Jordan LeBron analogy, the reason that I don't think LeBron will ever be on Michael Jordan's level is because at the end of the day, what do you judge people on championships? Bill Russell is one of the greatest players what do you judge people on championships? Bill Russell is one of the greatest players ever

because he has 11 championships, okay? My MJ was 6 and 0 in the finals. What's LeBron's record? Like, I don't even know if it's 500, to be honest with you. Four and five, four and a half. Exactly, he's missed the playoffs. So just on that basis,

you have someone who's 6 and a, has never lost in the finals. And you have someone who's six and a, has never lost in the finals. And you have someone who's obviously an amazing player, probably will go down as number two of all time, but is not even batting 500 in the finals. So to use the Trump analogy, Trump, I think, is more of a LeBron than an MJ, because what's Trump's record over the last eight years,

six years? One in one? You want to say one in one in presidential election. That's presidential election. But when it comes to midterms, he lost in 2018. He lost in 2020. And now he technically lost in 2022. So my question is, since 2016, as far as elections go, when's the last time Trump won? I will say this, do you think, do you think if Kerry Lake wins,

it's a win for Trump? By the way, it's real tight. I know, that's what I'm saying. If Kerry, to me, is Marjorie Green, is that over with or no? Oh yeah, she blew it out. So, okay, so that's a Trump, and that's the biggest Trumpster,

who by the way, she just said the following yesterday. I don't know if you read this or not. She said, the Marjorie Green Taylor asks the Santas not to run in 2024, we need Trump. This is what she just said, her words. And, you know, what we need in this country is, we need strong Republican governors like Ron DeSantis. We need strong Republican governors to fight,

stay in the eight years and save their states, not to abandon their states, and try to run for president or any other big position. Green set about Trump and the Santas as him being the clear nominee for 2024. My message is for everyone, anyone that's considering running for president 2024 against President Trump, please support Trump because we need him back in a White House green set. I have a question. You think, I understand this gives two shits. Let me ask my question and we go there. If she won, Oz is his candidate, he lost. If Kerry Lake wins, I give Trump a W.

If Lake loses and Marjorie Green wins and Oz loses, I give Trump an L. But if Kerry ends up winning, did you hear what she said to the media yesterday? She's being, do you have this clip what she said to the media where she's like, I think I send it to you. If you look up your text, I send it to you about she's talking to the media and they ask her question, if you guys haven't seen this, the way she answers it with the level of certainty, I'm gonna text it to you. I'm gonna text it to you right here and just pull it up.

You have to see how she talks. She's intimidating yet respectful. So that's the part. She's intimidating yet respectful Tyler. I just texted it if you can pull this up. If you were to even say how she communicates, I don't put her as communicating like Trump. I see Kerry Lake communicating more like DeSantis than like Trump.

I don't see her communicating like Trump. Watch this, watch this exchange right here. Watch what she says. If you can make this bigger and put the audio up, watch this. Just make the screen bigger so everybody can see it as well. There you go. And impress play, go for it. Kerry, do you wear your strength please from CDS news. There you go. And impress play. Go for it. Here you go.

You're playing for you from CDS News. I just want to follow up on this question for me. If Donald Trump announces as expected to be president, and you win the Dumbher to the Verizona, you're likely to be talked about as a AP candidate. Will you be planning to serve me with a tight term in Arizona? Are you open to being the VP?

Are you new covering this race? Because we've talked about this before. We've talked about this. I've asked you this question. I am going to not only be the governor of Arizona for four years, I'm going to do two terms. I'm going to be your words, freaking nightmare, for eight years.

And we will report the media as well. We're going to make you guys into journalists again. So get ready. It's going to be a fun eight years. I can't wait to be working with you. Terry, for the... Okay, pause it right there. She doesn't talk like Trump. She talks like the Santis. Everything was respectful. Everything was called them out, called out their BS.

Every reported that talk, so she stops and says, say your name and who you're with. Say your name and who you're with. Say your name and who you're with. The level of accountability she's put in post on the media to no longer play games. People like that. If she wins, that is a W for Trump. If she loses, you're right. Do you know her former career?

Yeah, she's a winner. She worked with Tom Zener for many, many years. So she's a journalist. She gets it. It's my point. She knows how to- And by the way, what better person wasattation as a candidate to get in there, then somebody that understands their world

and their level of accountability. That's kind of like a Tucker or a mad-out run in. That's an annoying candidate to run because they know how to play the game towards the moderator because they've been in that seat that play the other side of the game. So if she wins, I do think it's a W for Trump

and a lot of the people on the left are not gonna be happy if Lake wins. It's a big if, but if she wins. Yeah, and I think it's very close right now. I don't know how it is. I don't know how it is at 50-49 right now. It's 49.7 to 50-50.1. I get that, but you're dealing with Arizona, Ricky.

You're not dealing with Florida, you're not dealing with Texas, it's Arizona. Hang on, I think you have to look at, you have to compare Florida to Arizona Okay, Rhonda Santas is not a Trump guy and he kicked the snot at a Charlie Chris He won by a million and a half votes in Florida a state that he won by less than a percentage point 2016 Trump is getting his ass kicked the American people are sick and tired of Donald Trump Tyler stop. Okay That coming from Tyler I hear even if don't you are six you guys are so funny right now even if carry like what you're saying if we're

Day that make my if so the only Trump candidate that one is JD Vance brother just like take a breather and here we out It just hear me out Tyler. Okay hear me out how close Was the synthesis victory four years ago? It was it was a percentage point Can you actually pull it up to see by how many votes he won the cent is when he four years ago. It was a percentage point. Can you actually pull it up to see by how many votes he won, the centrist, when he won? Very close. Okay, so I actually want you to kind of, take your right out here.

Sometimes we forget about history on what happens with history. So pull it up and see how close the race was. I want to see the number of votes. I said 35,000, I was right. By less than thirty five thousand votes He wants to watch this watch this He won by thirty five thousand votes. It's like a rookie player coming into the NBA being judged on how they're gonna do

Just a year ago nobody knows Carrie Lake The only people that know Carrie Lake are people in Arizona in one year Boom, it's as if she showed up out of nowhere and she's average in 22 points a game. In her rookie year. Oh, I don't think she's got what it takes to be an all-star and all this other stuff. She's a rookie. If she wins and plays like that, she could be the second-run the Sanctus. Now you got a DeSantis on Arizona and you got a DeSantis-esque in Florida. Holy shit, a super team's being put together. So let's not forget this is the first time she's running you cannot judge a person running and by the way what around you before he ran for office what a

round before he was a congressman yeah again six district i think something like that florida six district he went from a congress day tone a six district to governor winning barely by thirty five nobody thought he was gonna win this one and then he wins So if Lake wins Lake has a very big upside and she will be very annoying. Let me even make a Prediction here to you maybe even more annoying to the left and the Santas I don't just maybe even more annoying to the left and the Santas and I don't annoying to the left and the Santas. And I don't think, look, let me kind of give this other distinction for you. And then you and Adam can come at me and tell me you agree with me, you disagree with me.

Okay. When it comes on to shows, okay. When it comes on to shows, who was the most famous first African American president? What's his name? Obama. Obama. Who did he just launch a podcast with, podcast with two years ago? Who? What happened to their podcast with Spotify?

Where, where, where? Why did they not renew the Spotify? Why did they not read? This is Obama and Bruce Springston. Yeah, streets of Philadelphia. Because they didn't get the votes called listeners. Because you are not meant to run a podcast at that level.

You're not. Some people are great co-hosts. Some people are good hosts. Some people can do show all by themselves and rock the freaking house with no guests and get eyeballs. Very few people can do that. We learned Obama and Bruce Springsteen are not interesting. They need a host.

First take has a host in the middle. What's her name? Marlamp? What's the girl that does first take? She's in a... She's fantastic host by the way, that she's doing what she's doing. There are very few people that can run as a one. Kerry is a person that can be a superstar on a team.

Westbrook cannot win as a one. Durant had to go to Golden State to win and even there he was on a one. Steph Curry on a team. Westbrook cannot win as a one. Durran had to go to Golden State to win, and even there he was on a one. Steph Curry was a one. Kerry Lake is a one type of a personality. And we're just learning about this girl. She's very interesting. She's very intimidating.

She's very firm yet respectful. Did you see the other day when she walks up, the journalist is like, hey, Kerry, can we do a few questions with you from CNN plus? Have you seen this one or not? Did we ever show it on the podcast or no? I don't think we've ever shown this on the podcast. If you can't find it, do me if everyone find this clip here.

You have to see, the lady says, Hey, Carrie, we'd love to do a, we'd love to do a, have you seen this one or no? Oh my God, I wish you could find this just to show this. Oh, here you go, I found it for you. I'm going to share it with you here, folks. You got to see this. And she's funny. That's the part.

She's funny. She's sarcastically funny. You just got the link. If you can pull it up, she's sarcastically funny. She's walking up. And this lady comes up to her. This lady with CNN. And she says, hey, Carrie, we'd love to do an interview with you.

We just got a couple questions for you. And then she says, oh, who are you with? She says, I, Carrie, we'd love to do an interview with you. We just got a couple questions for you. And then she says, oh, who are you with? She says, I'm with CNN. Oh, okay, great. And I look what she tells her. Just zoom in a little and raise the audio, Eric, if we can raise the audio on this one, press play. Hi, Eric.

Hi. Nice to see you. You don't have a mask on anymore. Let's go where else I have. Well, we'll work six feet apart. Do you want a minute to chat? I'll do do an interview as long as it airs on CNN+. So, it still exists, I didn't think so because the people don't like what you guys are pedaling, which is propaganda.

Thank you. That is a superstar witty. You cannot teach that. Can you see Federman doing that? Can you see Oz doing that? Can you see Beto doing that? Can you see even Abbott doing that? You can't see them doing that. She can do that. The scientists can do that. She can do that. Obama can do that. There's only a few people that can do that. Hillary Clinton cannot do that. Michelle Obama cannot do that. She can do that. This is a star in the making. If she wins, they can take a couple different else. Sometimes in life, you're gonna lose a person you want it as a

linebacker, you're gonna lose this point, but you picked up Joe Burrow, you picked up a superstar. This is a superstar in the making. Okay, but again, if she does that, go ahead. So you're saying Carrie Lake is a superstar in the making. I agree with that. How is that a win for Trump? Carrie Lake won because she's a superstar. Okay,. I agree with that. How is that a win for Trump? Carrie Lake won because she's a superstar. Because he endorsed her. Okay, but he also did that for Blake Masters. He's Lisa Murkowski in Alaska is about to pull out. If you go down the ballot, that candidate

is not gonna win. But you're talking about districts versus states. What did he just say? What was your argument right now? You said what? Carrie Lake is gonna win if she wins because she's a superstar super super super super super. Not because of Donald Trump.

That's not what I never said that though. But you're saying if Carrie Lake wins, it's a W for Trump. I do think, you know why though? It's not a W for Trump. I do think though, let me tell you why though. Let me tell you why though. Here's why.

He said something in a very subtle way that nobody here's talking about. Okay, how DeSantis had Trump come and say a few words to get that additional 35,000 votes. If Trump doesn't come out and say that about the SANTIS, does the SANTIS win? In 2016? Yes.

Not 2016, what ever in 2018? 2018, does the SANTIS win? Be straight up, don't be emotional here. I don't know, that's tough. Possibly not. I don't know, it's tight. Kittemy is 2018 at the peak of Trump with credibility, markets killing it, unemployment, everything is rocking,

African-American, minimum way. Everybody's doing very well. You mean to tell me if Trump at that time doesn't come and say anything, the census wins? You think 33,000 votes, the census is gonna win with a lot of stuff breaking with Andrew Gillan. All I'm saying to you is, if Trump doesn't give that endorsement, that probably got him

that additional 150,000 votes he needed. Fair. Let's put that they're 80% without Trump, he doesn't win. Fine. Now, everybody that's coming up, they need somebody to say, I give this guy a check, go ahead and get him. Pick him up.

He's going to be good. In sports, guys will call a coach from high school and say, is this guy going to be a good player for us to draft or not? Okay. So he did that. Then the sentence went away from being in the shadow of Trump and he became what? Is he in Trump's shadow today? No, he's not.

But at that point, they made it seem like he was. He flourished. And to be in somebody that's got his own identity now and he's doing great for himself. Carey Lake today. Just last week she said, my husband's my second favorite person, my favorite person in the world is who? Donald Trump. That is a victory for Trump if she wins. But I think after she wins, she can spread her wings and get as big as the Santas on her own identity. I think that's what she can do. Go ahead. Thank you. An analogy, sports analogy.

Sure. I think Trump feels and I think he's going she can do. Go ahead. Thank you. An analogy. Sports analogy. Sure. I think Trump feels, and I think he's going to make the case, he's already started doing it. It was interviewed on news and nation. He talked about DeSantis being an ungrateful. And I think Trump, and you get that statement from Marjorie Taylor Green, urging him not to run, these Trump people are going to be pressing DeSantis

to remember who made you. And I think the analogy, if you're looking for one with Michael Jordan, is Scottie Pippen. And I think Trump would be to Jordan what Pippen is to DeSantis. And Pippen would not have become the great pair that he became had. Jordan made him that great player, give him the wherewithal to be the player that he is. And I think without Trump four years ago, DeSantis is not in the place he's in today. And I commend DeSantis.

I'll disagree with that one. I'll disagree with that one. Okay. I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. Go ahead. And the reason for it is because Scotty was under Jordan's wings. Every day they were together.

Jordan was shaping his mindset. Trump and DeSantis are not kicking it every day. They're not they were together. Jordan was shaping his mindset. Trump and DeSantis are not kicking it every day. They're not having dinner together. DeSantis is not a product of Trump. DeSantis is a Navy SEAL, you know, he can't not have a Navy SEAL. He's a commander of a Navy SEAL unit and Congress and governor.

He needed Trump's help at the time because in 2018, Trump was the voice of the Republican Party. I think DeSantis is his own man, and I think he's making a the other day, the next just like I think he's got to go as a vice president. I think the Santa is a sitting this morning waking up with his and he's probably had the meeting last night at two o'clock in the morning and they're all teller and they're sitting there saying what do you think his people are saying around them? You know what they're saying? Here's what I'd be saying if I'm next to him. I'm gonna say hey how's the field

known you're the next president of the United States. Right. Oh there's no hey, how's it feel knowing you're the next president of the United States? Right. Oh, there's no question. How's it feel knowing you're the next president of the United States? That's what people said to him last night in his suite. His wife went to sleep. If that had a good time together last night,

she called him president. If you know what I'm saying. Like, you know what I'm saying? Who's your president? Who's your president? Who's your president? Who's your president? You, honey.

You, honey, because he is on pace for being that and he earns the right to have that thing being said to him behind closed doors. The guy shows poise. I don't know if you guys saw his energy yesterday. If you haven't seen it, just go watch the way he spoke. Okay. His wife over come and cancer personal life. No excuses. Showed up. He's got the right first lady as a wife himself, the way his wife speaks. Like you guys remember how Obama would say, listen, my secret weapon is Michelle. When Michelle Obama comes and speaks, I win. The Santos has the right first lady to go do that with.

And I think they're gonna have a big upset, but I don't see him as a Scotty I see my sentence is all meant I want to give some advice to my Republican friends out there guys mute the can we mute the Adam for the next two minutes go ahead if you want to win in 2024 which I assume that's what you want to do go ahead and nominate Ron to win to be your president you will win the White House don't you want us to win? To be your president. You will win the White House. Don't you want us to win? Yeah, sure.

If you nominate Ron DeSantis. You can tear this down. Let me make my goddamn point, Ricky, and then you could spill your nonsense. Okay. If you want to win in 2024, go ahead and nominate Ron DeSantis. You will walk away with the White House. You will likely win both houses That's my prediction. If you want to shoot yourself on the foot and you want to play the 2016 remix

We've all seen that movie and you want to lose by a narrow margin and do the whole January 6th insurrection thing again Go ahead and nominate Donald Trump again. Do you want to lose or do you want to win? The choice is yours. That's your opinion. Okay. And double down on that, Ricky. And when I bet you $1,000 again, that you still won't pay me in 2024,

I'm gonna come for double that, okay? I'm giving advice to my friends. You will win in 2024 if you pick a dissentist. You will lose, I don't even know who's running on the Democratic side. You will lose with the Donald Trump. He's a toxic candidate. DeSantis is your guy, but you probably won't nominate him because you're in love with Donald Trump.

Good luck. Did you want to respond to that? Ricky. I just, I just, yeah. Go ahead, tell me why you don't want to win. Explain to me why you want to lose, go Ricky. I just think, I just think tell me why you don't want to win explain to me why you want to lose go Ricky I just think I just can we can we go to the next issue. Yeah we do yeah here's here's what I want to talk about check the set the podcast has been

going on we got roughly 9,000 people on right now we're 1100 away from hitting 10,000 guys share the podcast with others because we're about to go to next few topics here we've been talking for about an hour and 40 minutes. You know what's the one thing no one's talked about? That matters the most. Not one person has brought up the economy yet an hour and 40 minutes. Okay. So here's a part that no one is talking about and I said this three weeks ago on the podcast. Here's what I said. When Biden went, Biden went into our oil reserve and we saw gas prices dropping,

and nobody was bitching about gas prices. And that took place. When that happened, that affected votes. Watch how gas prices are gonna go back up. The deal with Saudi, the deal with them stop using our own reserve. You're gonna see gas prices go back up. Inflation, Wall Street Journal came out talking about the fact

that if you can pull up this article, Wall Street Journal talking about the fact that we're going to go to 6%, some investors are afraid that we're about to go to a two-day-cade high. In the next month, that you can see this article, article, right here, if you zoom in a little bit, some investors bet FET could lift rates to two-day-cade high. Now they're talking about this.

We haven't had a point hike. We've had three-quarters of a basis point hike. What haven't had a point hike. We've had three quarters of a basis point hike. What if they do a point hike in a month of December? What if they do? They could do it. Maybe they're probably gonna do a half or three quarters of a point, but maybe they could do point hike. The point hike.

Talk about great timing. If gas prices all of a sudden go like this in the next week to the roof, just know it was perfect timing strategy from Biden for the left to know that the gas prices being lower got the average voter to say I'm cool. It's not as high as it used to be. What happened with Dow this last two weeks, three weeks? That was at what right now? 34, 35. A lot of people knew the Republicans were about to win the house. So the Republicans winning the house, the people are like, listen, I'm cool. I'm not going to be doing

anything with it. Dow had a 500 point day. How is Dow doing right now, by the way? I'm curious how it's up. It's up 300 points. It's up 300 points. S&P up 22. There you go. You know what the market is saying?

Dow's at 33,000, just a month and a half ago, two months ago, Dow had 28,000, 28,000, and it's at 33,000. When this thing goes up, the way it has, it helps the midterms. The economy in the last four to six weeks helped the midterms a lot, the economy, in the last four to six weeks. Now, when we hear about what's going on with home value

losing a trillion and a half dollars of equity in the last five months, this hasn't yet hit in 2023. It's going to be very interesting what happens to the market now that there is no gaming the system or the economy. Meaning, you're about to really find out what our economy is like the next three to six months. So some of it in the last three months could have been fake.

Some of it in the last six weeks could have been fake. There is no reason to game the economy the next six months. Meaning, if shit hits the fan with the economy the next six months, what's Biden gonna say the fan with the economy the next six months, what's Biden gonna say? Well, you know, this is because the house, one, and this is because there's so many things to blame, but whatever happens to the economy the next six months

is the real economy. No gamesmanship on both sides. It's gonna be very, very interesting. Tom, I want to go to here with all these things that we're looking at right now. What do you think is gonna happen with the economy? You're seeing the same stats I'm seeing. What do you think is going to happen to the economy post-mittal election?

I think you're exactly right. I think the first thing is going to happen is the shoot. The other shoot is going to drop on gas prices because the manipulation with the strategic petroleum reserve stops. Because remember, he can only do that once and then they have to backfill the petroleum reserve. It's not like some magic geney fills it up at night.

You have to go back and fill it up again, so you can use it again. It's like a savings account of oil for when the United States is in trouble. That's what I think what people should look at that. SPR, when you hear that. And you don't have that trick to make the price as well. So I think gas is going up number one.

And here me now and here me clearly. There may be gridlock in Washington. They may not be getting anything down or maybe no change. But I'll tell you where there is still going to be change and that is at the grocery store because the prices are continuing to go up. And so there may be gridlock in Washington but there's not going to be gridlock in their wallet and their purse is on other credit cards because the price is still going up. Prices are going up. The market is still reacting to values of accelerated assets and these assets went up in value because we printed money.

So the average person needs to look at it and say the stock market is going up for reasons that are more related to what we did printing money and less related to the health of the economy because when they look at their wallet, they go to the grocery store, they go to get a haircut, they go to the thing, the prices are going up and I do not think it's going to be a happy fourth quarter. If you were taking a look between the lines of the election, you were seeing there were polls out there that were saying

people were actually going to take Thanksgiving off. Did anybody see some of this? That they weren't going to spend as much on the big meal and they maybe weren't going to travel to a Family member if it required her travel or some real using gas traveling five miles is that they might take Thanksgiving off compared to the way they would spend in other years. Friends, that's two weeks from now So I think we're going to see a shoe drop on gas prices. I think we're already hearing whispers about hurting Americans that are gonna modify

their Thanksgiving plans. It's supposed to be a time of Thanksgiving, getting the family together. You know, and remember, Thanksgiving's a neutral holiday. It's not Hanako, the first part of December, and Christmas the last half of December, and then Festivists for the rest of us. Some other point of December. It's a Hanako the first part of December and Christmas the last half of December and then Festivists for the rest of us some other point of December It's you know, it's a good podcast to get a festive this reference

Thanks giving is supposed to be all of us taking a break and then spending what we don't have on black Friday But I think that's what's going on Pat I think I think things are are right around the corner from real and really bad And I think people are gonna sit back and go go, well, wait a minute, now what? Now what is the news media talk about? Now that this mini series called the midterm elections is over. Tom, question for you, Pat, as well as business guys, odds, everything's about odds. What are the odds that over the next two years that the economy goes up, stays flat or goes down?

What do you think the odds are? We haven't reached bottom yet. I'd love to know what other people think, and I mean, what do you think? Do you follow these things now as closely as you did in your governor where economic statistics could move your constituents and be a great concern? What are your thoughts?

No, I think everything you just said is right. I think exactly the manipulation of the strategic petroleum reserve was clearly for this election cycle. And I think that it was artificial. And I think we have a real energy problem and a shortage. And I think we're going to see gas prices go up. I think the economy will continue to be a problem. I think what you guys are talking about, increase in interest rates,

all of those things are going to be sort of like how it was in the late 70s when Jimmy Carter was the president. And that's why whoever wins that Republican nomination in 2024, I know we talked about the economy this time around, but if this continues to get worse and not better, I think it's going to be a change election in 2024 in the Republicans, whoever their candidate is, I think we'll have a real good chance to win. Now, if the economy improves, it's a very different story, but I'm betting that what you just

said is likely to happen. I don't think we've seen the bottom yet. I think we can talk about what are the odds of it getting better. I don't think we've seen the bottom. First, you have to call the bottom. The late mart Haynes called the bottom magnificently in 2009 on CNBC's Squawk on the street and he was the first financial reporter to do so and he was dead on. He said, this is it, this is it, this is it. I'm calling bottom. And I don't think we're there yet and I'm waiting for a voice to do that but I don't think it's gonna be

this year and I don't think it's gonna be first quarter yeah i think uh... we again everything is we will see nobody knows but if gas prices go up guess what tap into the reserves to get the average american who's not feeling a pain of gas was an effective strategy by biden's administration especially no one

this is the lowest level of approval rating by presidents since Truman, not even Carter, by the way. It's lower than Carter, it's at Truman levels. So if the gas prices goes up, you'll see it. Interest rates are going to go up. Mortgage prices are going to go down. Unemployment hasn't even been hit yet. We still have to see those things take in place. I think 2023 is going to be a root awakening when it comes onto the economy. We still haven't gone through. But again, we will see. I want to show this chart here on where billionaires were putting their money's at. Okay, if you can zoom into this picture so we can look at because at the end

of the day, $880 million will put in different packs by these billionaires. If you look at Solrose, $129 million went into go a little lower so we can see exactly what it's, oh, I see it over here, hang on one second, so I'm with you because I can't see it on my back. Yeah, in a democracy pack, two, okay. You got Sam Bankman-Free, he's the guy of FTX, he's the guy that lost all the money, he wanted to give all his money to the Democrats. $39 million went into a few different things. Protect our future pack, color of change pack, not color of change pack. It was mainly that and then

House Majority Pack, GMI Pack. Elizabeth and Richard Allhine gave a lot of it to club for growth action, some to restoration pack, Wisconsin truth pack, and then he also put some money into what's the last one there. I can't see the last one it goes into others Ken Griffin 66 million dollars Jeffrey asked 48 Stephen Schwartzman 38 33 million dollars into congressional leadership fund He put into Senate leadership fund. He put an American leadership action and he put some of it in others and then you had Peter Thiel put 30 million into

Protect Ohio Values Pack, and then he put it into Saving Arizona Pack. Obviously, it was betting on Oz and Lay. You know, JD Vance. JD Vance, that's right, that's right. JD Vance, and that's right. Oz is Pennsylvania, Vance is Ohio, which paid off, and then, so, a lot of billionaires are getting involved. The question becomes the following.

Is this a good thing or a bad thing, and will this ever stop? Like, you know, for somebody that ran, do you think we can ever, you know, prevent these guys from getting involved, and if we did, how different would the election be? I think it's a bad thing, and I have unclean hands on this, Ken Griffin gave me money when I ran for governor.

Pritzker, the current governor who worked for me, gave money to my campaign when I ran for governor, and then after I had won. And Pritzker being the heir to the high hotel fortune has spent tens of millions of his own money to win re-election the first time, $175 million. I don't know what he spent this time, probably more to win reelection. And so I think, look, the Republicans spent more than $4 billion in this election cycle, $4 billion.

The Democrats just about $4 billion. This is obscene, and I think really a problem for our democracy. What's the solution? People don't like it and this sounds like a Bernie Sanders kind of approach. But I feel like you should limit the amount of money that candidates can spend in campaigns. I think the broadcasting media should give free advertising to candidates. You got to figure out who's a credible candidate or not.

There's got to be some sort of fair way to do that. And I think the taxpayers might have a vested interest in public financing of campaigns and take the money out of it. I think what you're referring to is obviously campaign finance reform. What was in 2010 that was the Supreme Court ruling for Citizens United? 2014, I know that case rule, well,

because that's what I went to prison and things like that. Exactly. I think that's been a disaster for campaign and big money and politics, where you can basically buy elections. We've seen here by that chart, and we can pull it up. It's on the left and the right. People are giving millions and millions and billions of dollars.

I mean, whether you're a Bernie Sanders guy or not, or an AOC person or not, or a Marjorie Taylor Greene or not, they're getting money by individual donors, rather than big, ridiculous billionaires that can just basically influence and buy elections. I think that Citizens United decision by the Supreme Court has had a very negative impact on America. Thank you, Ed.

I'm glad he said that I got to add another thing though. I thought this at first was a good thing, it's a bad thing. When Obama was going crazy in a positive way And it was sitting the world on fire back in 2008 and he was raising small-dollar contributions from people all over the country and one month he raised a hundred million dollars That was unprecedented and it was coming from every day people sending in small checks My first thought was this is good for democracy because what it's doing is it's deluding the influence of the special interest groups, the PACs, and those people who do business around

government, right? And delutes the influence of these billionaires. What it's done, however, is Trump has now become, and the Republicans have become grassroots fundraisers. So they've got their group of small-dollar donors. What that does is it divides the politics. You can't now compromise with the other side and keep your fundraising base of all those people who like that sort of extreme position or those hard positions that some of them take. And what it does is it discourages, compromise, find a common ground,

and it continues to polarize that country. That's why I think in my, you know, I don't really know the full answer, but I know that ain't working. The billionaires ain't working. There's too much money in politics. The campaign seasons are way too long. The media makes all kinds of money on the TV ads. Everybody has a stake in this as citizens. I think everybody should sacrifice, including taxpayers, which should limit the amount of money that's spent,

and these media people should have to be able to do it for free and put some of these ads on. But I don't expect that ending that'll happen in the near future. So, since United Decision in 2010, is there a chance that that's brought up again in the Supreme Court again these days? How does that work? Yeah, but it would probably be even more reaffirmed by that conservative court because they've taken the position and under First Amendment. You have a right to give as much as you want as your money.

So a lot of people will complain about George Soros, the things that he's doing and the negative ramifications, but isn't that tantamount to exactly what this is? It's like if you don't want George Soros buying elections, then don't propose these citizens' unites amendments, right? Yes. So your question is what? I'm just saying, like, you're saying that if they did revisit the citizens united ruling today with a conservative Supreme Court that will reaffirm the decision.

So it's essentially saying, keep doing what you're doing George Soros. I mean, you're cool with that. Just think about it this way. Somebody just commented right now, Andrew Huff and gave 10 bucks and he said, Adam, Mark Zuckerberg bought the 2020 elections for the Democrats and put over $400 million on drop boxes. That's a lot of money to be used, and that's a lot of influence. By the way, look what happened.

They lose $800 billion of valuation with Facebook. The guy loses $100 billion of his net worth, and they're letting the announced today, a day after elections, very appropriate, day after midterm election. They're laying off 11,000 employees today. Nobody thought it was going to be a number that big. But all of these things that are going on when you guys are going back and for talking about this I don't know if I'm comfortable with people putting that kind of money into it And I don't really know what would happen if the money was out

You would actually need to do the work. Oh, Shaykhan's talk to people. Here's a one thing that was very interesting with issues yesterday Do you remember when Ramni was debating Obama and he came off the first and second debate, I think he won both the debate. Second debate was a better debate for him and it was going into the third debate and on the third debate, Ramni when it started talking about salad and health and some weird stuff and didn't talk about Benghazi, didn't bring it up one single time and all the pundits afterwards are like, what the hell are you doing? What are you talking about?

I'm on a flight with Bill or riley and then a smiller i'm going to uh uh uh vegas from la to a party or wedding or or an event bill or riley sitting right next to me south of us airlines came leave them bourbon so it's an easy 40 minute flight i said bill what just happened with ramey and all he says look i'm doing my show right now when we're going there here's what took place okay what took place during this time show right now when we're going there, here's what took place. Okay. What took place during this time Ricky is while they were going there, he called Obama and he says, hey, his camp, he says, look, I want to get Obama on my show.

And they're like, and then he called Romney. And Romney's like, no, we're good, we're going to win it. And he says, I call Obama's camp. And Obama's camp says, it's over. Our biggest fear was that Romney was gonna bring up Benghazi, but he didn't, he played softball, he lost the election because his third debate was very big, and that's what gave Obama the victory, right?

I don't know what would happen if some of these gamesmanship is out to see how, who would rise up and win and the timing of issues and all this stuff, but today, crime. How many people saw issues talking about crime? I don't know how much they're talking about crime. And crime is a real thing. Can you pull up the statistics here with crime? Okay, so this, if you look at this here, since 1990 till today, Tyler, can you explain

to us this chart? Because I know there's a lot of them out there, explain this chart to us. So this top, the line here is crimes committed per 100,000 people and then the bottom is the percentage annual change by year. So in 2020 there was a 29% spike up from five crimes per 100,000 people to six and a half crimes. And what's interesting is in New York, in LA, homelessness, you know, Portland, who was all about, you know, defunding the police, is now all about, hey, we kind of need the police. All the people that were part of the defund the police camp

are now coming back saying, we need cops. The African-American communities are like, listen, we definitely need cops. What are we doing? The families, the mothers are like, we definitely need more cops. New York yesterday, we showed the interview with Hoco on MSNBC.

What was the whole name, Adam, that on MSNBC, the late Stephanie Rule. Yeah, and she's like, look, I'm not comfortable going out there in the streets, I'm not comfortable going out there talking to people. And when I'm talking to people from the left, the right or the middle, no matter who we're talking to, everyone's a little bit concerned. Do you know one of my agents, John?

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I said, this is, what is this? What are you doing? He says, Pat, it's a non-lethal gun that you can buy for 500 bucks. And everybody needs to have it. He has it in his lambo, okay? He says, I got this everywhere I go. It's and everybody needs to have it. He has it in his Lambo, okay? He says, I got this everywhere I go. It's illegal, anybody can have it.

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You have a hard time breathing and seeing for 30 to 40 minutes. So it stops it immediately, and you can't see or breathe. You can have it a hard time breathing and seeing for 30 to 40 minutes. Okay. So it stops it immediately, because you know there's the other taser gun or whatever it is. This one you take out, you put these things in there,

it's like an air gun, but 60 feet, you can shoot and drop somebody. You can either use it. It's like pepper spray, 60 feet. So it can drop a guy threatening my family. This is a pepper spray, it can drop anybody and they can't do anything for 30 to 40 so you can run away Or they have them where it's just a projectile and you just hit somebody it hurts your drop right there's many clips of this burn a gun

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It's one of the fastest-growing companies in selling these types of guns. Their competitor, I think, is what's the one I just called a minute ago, the taser competitors that they have. You can buy one of these. No one's going to know what's going to happen with protesting. The rape would crime, all that stuff and different, by the way, you can have this in California,

you can have it in Illinois, you can have it in all that stuff, you can study the jurisdiction, and we have a link below for people that actually wanna buy one of these for yourself, or you're a five, they even have it in a rifle that shoots a hundred feet away. It's a pretty sick product that they have. You're not gonna get arrested,

the risk nowadays many people, when they have a gun for protection and they shoot somebody with it, is that if you do harm the other person and kill them, even if you were self-defense, you can still go to jail. So what a jail. But with this, you're protected, and it's still safe in the oppositions. There's a video of this on YouTube that's got 20 million views, where a guy breaks into the house. Do you want her to the house, puts the gun out, points it at them, the other guy thinks it's a real gun,

it's not a real gun, never shoots it, the guy goes with it's projectiles. So my suggestion to you, I highly recommend you go buy one for you, for your spouse, or anybody in your family, especially if you're a business owner, have one of these for yourself. Put the link below, I think they're gonna get a discount when they go buy their product, the projectiles, and that's a shout out to Burnup because we, I believe, in this

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have a felony albeit as wrong as it was can I still get one of those yeah I think you want to talk to your lawyers and your state, you being an Illinois. But again, it's not seen as a lethal weapon. It's a non-lethal gun would project us to protect yourself. Yeah. Look, the argument that is non-lethal, a non-lethal gun.

And I got to give a shout out to Ricky because he agreed to let me shoot him with a burner. Then he really? So just, as a sample. With a chemical or non-kemical? I appreciate that Ricky. I mean, I didn't want to do it. But he said, no, I got not? I appreciate that Rick. What a sweet. I want to do it.

I got some boots and guess my ideas. So there you have it. So there's a burn the story right there. Anyways, very rarely do we reach out to guys, but we reach out to these guys. And if you don't have one, go get yourself a burn a gun. And that video on that website, you can see a bunch of us shooting it at the office testing it out. Okay. next story. By the way, are you thinking with what's going on right now with crime?

Do you think, here's an interesting question for you. This is what I thought about yesterday. So, you know how sometimes in sports a team wins and they win in a big way, players make phone calls to say, hey, get me to go on that team because I want to win a championship next year. You know what I'm talking about, like in sports? It happened, hey, look, say hey get me to go on that team because I want to win a championship next year You know what I'm talking about like in sports it happened hey look man I want to go Milwaukee like Tucker keeps moving from team to team to win the chance I'm gonna go to Miami. Yeah, I'm gonna go to this. I'm gonna go to the very common veterans very common

Take the veteran minimum and go to a team that they take the chance So by the way, what happened with the mayor of LA is it still a runoff or is it done? Who won in LA? Did he lose? Democrat won. He lost. Democrat won. Democrat still won. So Karuso didn't win. Can you pull that up a Karuso? By the way, I went to law school with Karuso. He was in my graduating class. Really? Yeah, I was here. Was he a stud back then? He was a total stud. He was way up on top.

I never knew the guy because he was way up on high and I was struggling there with C-grade. So I never knew the guy. And he went on to be a billionaire and I want to be a criminal. This shows him winning. This shows him a 1045. Yeah, this is 710 AM. No, this is right now last updated 1046 AM. So it's seven and in L.A. is it over or is it done or no? No, 45% of the vote is around. Wow, he was all 44% of votes are in. Okay, so we don't know. Is he the Republican? He was the Republican.

No, as a Republican. He changed. He's a wink, wink Republican, but running as a Democrat. No, he's a Democrat. He's a billionaire real estate developer. Who's Karen Bass? She's a Congresswoman. Oh, God.

So he's running as an independent or? He changed his party parties so he became a democrat he's uh... his father was like old bud budget renaissance of the so it's very wealthy law school very well and then he took that to the next level kind of like cronick rats are running democrats he's been a lifelong republican he was a big donor to republicans but he decided to run for mayor

so it's the kind of guy that that people believe can clean up LA. That's what they're hoping that this guy could do. But here's my question for you. After what happened last night, with the way Florida won, okay, what happened with New York? A lot of people were hoping for a local to lose. A lot of them. That race was a lot closer than anybody thought it was going to be, okay?

To lose 47 to 52.5 or whatever in a state like Florida and a state like New York isn't saying. Do you think that victory by Hoco? Do you think the victory by Nusom? Do you think the victory in these blue states that some of the people are hoping for change? Do you think that's going to cause the second wave of people leaving or do you think that's going to do no damage, nothing people will stay put? I think in California I I can tell you that people

were waiting to see if Nusom was going to win or not. To make a move to some of the people to move. Yes. Because some people were like, well, they were moving too early and they're saying, well, what if he loses, then we would move away from our families and where we grew up. So I can tell you, I know tons of people

that were waiting for this election to determine if they were going to move from California or not. And now I already know what the decision is going to be. Tom. No, I think there's definitely a second wave. There's a few people I've talked to that had next to zero hope in new some moving, but they were also looking at real estate prices, timing of selling a house and moving, but they were also looking at real estate prices, timing of selling a house and moving, but they were actively making plans and they're still making plans and I think you're gonna see

another wave going out of California and look you can see the layoffs are happening in Silicon Valley. I mean there are a lot of layoffs that are happening there and let me tell you, not all those people that work for those companies are true believers on the political side of the spectrum. A lot of them quietly do their job as an engineer and everything, and you got to keep your mouth shut, because as you pointed out, the young woman that said, hey, for so many years, I was a Democrat, and my few Republican friends kind of tolerated me, and everything was good. The minute I said that I was voting Republican, suddenly my friends were very a survey and just all over me. And that happens inside these companies.

And you see a lot of layoffs and a lot of people. I think it's a non-trivial second wave. And it's really, the first wave really hasn't stopped. If you look at the statistics year over year, I think the wave's going to crest higher. That's probably a way to put it. Do you agree? When I was Governor Villanoire, Illinois, Illinois was the fifth largest state in the

nation. Today's the sixth largest state. I think the exodus from Illinois will continue. So I agree with both of these guys. I think it will continue and it will continue to further divide our country into the divided states of America. You think that's the direction that's going to happen? So you think it's going to be a place where Democrats feel safe living in a place where it's pro-choice. Anything Republicans are going to go live in a state that's going to be pro-business, pro-freedom, pro-freedom of speech. Yeah, I think it's less about the abortion issue on this particular case.

More about the business opportunities crime, first and foremost, crime and whether or not you see any political leadership that's willing to do the hard things to fight crime and slow it down and reduce it and business at climate. But the reason I brought up pro-choice because some women are leaving to approach a state from a pro-life state. Some are actually moving. Yeah, I think that's right, actually. That's what I was talking about. Yeah, I think that's right, actually, come to think of it.

I do think that's right. So, you know, if you look at this chart here, if you can pull it up, Eric, so the audience can see it, this kind of shows you employ donations to midterms, candidates by party, okay? Blue being Democrat, red being Republican, look at Netflix, 99.6% of the donations was to the democratic party. Only 0.4% was to the republican party.

Obviously they're not biased at all. At Twitter it was 98.7. At Airbnb it's 98% Apple 97.5. Stripe 97. Lift 96. Google alphabet 96. Salesforce 95. Facebook 95.

Tesla 94. eBay 93. PayPal 92 PayPal 92 Microsoft 92 Amazon 89 Uber 81 you'll be a packer 80 Intel 70 look at Oracle time at the bottom with you know Larry Ellison is like look man. Fourth or fifth? Just man. He was on the billionaire list a minute ago. Yeah, on the donor 66% here 33.9. I think a big part of this the reason why I'm showing this is because if you are trying to use social media and You're telling me there is no bias at the people that are working at some of these companies It's a lie and you got 99% that are only going one side

I feel bad for the point 4% Republican that works at Netflix think about how they view that person. It's kind of like look 4% Republican that works at Netflix think about how they view that person. It's kind of like look Can we get like five Republican employees here just to kind of even things out so they don't say we're fully Democrat Just so we can always use those three guys or five guys But what do you think about when you see numbers like this Tom? Well, I look at where most of these were headquartered Silicon Valley and well Microsoft up there in Washington, you know, the land of the Burkin stock. So, I think you've got that. And you also have an emerging generation

that's part of this. And I think there's a lot of leadership that thinks you have to be on the right set of history because I don't believe these donations necessarily reflect the true playing field that's out there. I don't think it represents their customer sets. And it's also very, very interesting. A lot of these companies, and there's a couple of them in there, they have policies about

what you don't talk to your customer about. So we may be giving it this way, but when we talk to our customers, I know it's this way at Salesforce.com. It's like our customers are going to be from both sides of the aisle. Our customers are going to have all kinds of viewpoints, and we can't bring our personal political views and offend our customers because if you look at the statistics, according to the election, it's what, 48.5% of the United States is on the other side, so not one of these folks is going to want to give up 48.5% of the United States is on the other side. So not one of these folks is gonna wanna give up

48.5% of their customers. So how they are in their hearts, and then their personal views is not how they necessarily behave in front of their customers. Although there's companies like Apple that are definitely way out there and very open and progressive publicly. Adam, what do you think about when you see this? No, I think this is actually a very, very powerful stat right here because these companies,

I mean down the list, these are the companies running America, running the world for that matter. And when you talk about cancel culture, here's a reason why. These are all the platforms, like when we sat down with Andrew Tate, not only did he get banned from Twitter and YouTube and Facebook and Meta and Instagram and Discord, then it happened to be PayPal and Stripe. Next, it was Uber and Lyft.

And I kind of joke, you think that all these Silicon Valley guys are on a text message together? Just kind of like how we're on a text message with buddies. And the answer is yeah, of course, they're kind of as there's a group think mentality. The problem is these are the people running America, but this is not representative of what America is. Let's use an example of Jimmy Kimmel the other day. Like Jimmy Kimmel has lost half his audience. Yeah. Because he's completely done, and by the way, the same thing for Colbert,

to his lesser extent, Fallon. What's the other guy Seth Meyers? They've doubled down on their hate for Trump. Not at Kimmel level, though. Kimmel, Colbert and Kimmel, I think, are at the same level. I think Fallon is like, you know, a little less political. But that's my point. Yeah.

Is that just because you have a certain ideology or a certain business model doesn't mean you should alienate the other half of America, right? So I think it's a poor business model, but it is a telltale sign of why certain people get canceled, right? Or why certain types of content get a strike. Because look at the people running these companies. This is a very powerful message here. Well, you said at one time, Pat, remember when you talked about who was the most five more powerful, was the government, the president, social media,

and business, I think. Universities. Universities, yeah. You talked about this, and mainstream media, right? And mainstream media, and I think. Universities. Universities. Yeah, as you talk about this, and mainstream media. And mainstream media. And I think this is showing a lot, going back to that point when you talked about that. By the way, can you pull up the concept of capitalism

versus corporatism? Pull up the difference between capitalism versus corporatism. Just put difference between capitalism and corporatism and then zoom in. If you zoom in here, if you zoom in right there for the definition so we can see it, capitalism is an economic system that recognizes individual rights while corporatism is a political and

economic system that seeks social justice and equality among individuals, right? So when you look at the model of how much money they're putting into the left or the right and you're seeing the amount of power that they have. You're seeing an example of corporatism here where here's Netflix that dictates what content your kids watch. They're putting 99.6% onto one side. Here's Facebook that's dictating how many people get your viewership.

They're putting their money on one side. Not only that, Zuck has another, however much money he put into it. I think it's an interesting thing when you see that data, by the way, if there's another one of these companies that somebody from the right, like Elon Musk can come out and know where and buy, who would that be? If there's a company that can be bought by somebody

on the right at a discounted price. At this point, it's Facebook, are you kidding me? How much money they've lost over the last 12 months? Snap. You think in snap? You think in he brings snap into do like a tick-tock thing If you're talking about something that's depressed. They're down 92% They're stock prices down 92% which means that they're The ability to buy them the prices down 92%

I don't know that it's a very good platform, but that's a social that is a troubled highly discounted social media platform that someone could pick up if they thought they could do better. Yeah, to our extent hundreds of millions of you. What about these other platforms that have shown up, the rumbles of the world, the parlors of the world? Pardon, what is it Tumblr, what are these other things? Whether it's truth, social, do these things have a place in mainstream media? Not, not parlor, because it's tied to Kanye. That thing is done done for now. That's going to take a time out for a minute. I think Rumble, for sure, they're not going away.

Now they're getting bigger and bigger. They had a chance to put Rumble out in business a few years ago. They didn't do it. It's backfire in London, because Rumble is taking market share and they're raising money left and right and they're picking people up. They come and create content with us. Russell Brand is now making content on Rumble. You're getting all these names that are not moving to Rumble. And they're taking market share away from YouTube. Of course YouTube, from a lot of different places they're taking market share away. Half of that. Yeah, half of it. And that's going to continue to happen. But I'm talking

about who has the funds that when you look at these numbers, I'm talking about these big boys, okay, these companies, these numbers that Netflix, Twitter. So Twitter's now Musk, Airbnb, Apple, and no one's going to buy Apple. Apple is a, at this point, it's a country of its own. Stripe, lift, Google, Salesforce, Facebook, you know, these are influential companies, you know, and who even has that kind of money to go buy some of these guys?

It's going to be interesting because Twitter, being bought by Elon Musk, was probably one of the best things that happened, but will any of these other guys go for sale? I don't know. We're topics. Adam and Ricky are still friends here. I will tell you this, if you're here with us and you're like us, just so you know, don't get it twisted, we're fully convinced the future looks bright. These hats are right now selling like hotcakes. We're on the side, it says future looks bright. And on the bottom of the lid, it says future looks bright

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