PBD Podcast - Elizabeth Pipko Says "Desantis is Severely Overhyped" | PBD Podcast | Ep. 259 Part 1
Episode Date: April 19, 2023In this episode, Patrick Bet-David, Adam Sosnick and Elizabeth Pipko discuss: Education at Universities in America Chelsea Handler and Her Crush on Adam Sosnick Kanye West and Nick Fuentes Des...antis' 6 week abortion ban Mike Pence's Future in Politics FaceTime or Ask Patrick any questions on https://minnect.com/ Want to get clear on your next 5 business moves? https://valuetainment.com/academy/ Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQL Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support
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Okay, so we got a special podcast today.
Let me lower the volume here while Adam is telling me
about a girl he broke up with because he didn't like her name.
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Her last name.
Who's her first name?
Her first name.
Anyway, today's not about me though.
So Jose wasn't you then? So today's yes, today's yes.
Today's yes, we got a lot of things to cover.
We got a little bit pipped on the house.
It was a former model, 2016 Trump campaign staffer
who was the founder and president of the Exodus movement,
which is committed to fighting the rising anti-Americanism
and anti-Semitism of the far left
as well as promoting support for Israel.
Thanks.
Good to have you on the podcast.
Yeah.
Thanks for having me.
So tell us your story.
Tell the audience your story a little bit.
Okay.
It's a long story, but I'm going to attempt to show it.
Give us the short version of it.
Yeah.
I grew up a daughter of immigrants from the former Soviet Union.
Okay.
Very proud Russian Jew in New York City.
Went to Orthodox school, synagogue, the whole nine yards.
Everything my family could not do back in the Soviet Union.
Around 11 years old, I discovered that I wanted to be an Olympic figure skater,
which was very random.
My mom being the best person in the world, moved me to Florida,
to the only coaches that were willing to train me.
I skated about six years, 10 hours a day.
The whole nine was asked to go to the Olympics for 2014
for the team of Israel.
Then I just shorted my ankle and was told I would never walk
again, took me some time to get my life together, right?
Move back to New York City, I was discovered
by a photographer, sign with Willamina Models,
and a few months, I went back to school and modeling
and somehow ended up in politics
and now I'm trying to combine all of that together.
How did that happen?
How do you go from modeling to politics?
Because those two typically don't collide.
Um, I'm not super polite.
I'm not super polite.
Right.
Topic, right?
What's that movie?
Topic.
We're cutting edge.
Yes, cutting edge.
How's Greenmouth?
I'm not cutting edge, right?
You said former model?
You can't say that. Yeah, I'm actually modeling edge. You're not supposed to be a model. I'm still it. Yeah. I was great moving. I'm not that cutting edge right. You said former model, you can't say that.
Yeah, I'm actually modeling now.
I'm actually a professional art.
Yeah.
I'll show you how to do it.
I've got it, girl.
I mean, I still got it.
Yeah.
Who with?
Who are you modeling with right now?
I have two agencies, one here and one in Atlanta.
And I'm actually more successful now than I was
if you're in the game.
I will take it, yeah.
Very cool.
Yeah.
So tell us about politics and modeling.
How did that happen?
I worked for Donald Trump in 2016 on
problematic and not only a little, only a little on his presidential campaign.
Somehow ended up there and kept that a giant secret. So I can continue modeling. Obviously,
secrets nowadays do not last. I came out and did up in politics. 45% of working women in South Carolina. He's just 25 to four.
Rob?
He's like, this is the most important story.
That's the last, that's the last trying to interrupt her
from his Instagram.
Roger on Instagram, his Instagram.
As soon as she said, she's the boy that you were saying.
So you was a secret, then a guy out.
A secret a guy out.
A lot of people, I think, on the right,
were very excited that like a young Jewish woman
was I guess on their side and wanted to utilize that.
Still not thrilled about a lot of the opportunities that came my way, but I tried to make the best
of it.
And then realized I think I'm a little more centered than I originally thought, but somehow
I was allowed into that world and given a giant platform and now I'm trying to combine it
in a way where I can still model and do politics and whatever else I wanted.
Sean Curie, so tell me like what was, you know, as somebody who's modeling you're in that world,
you know, I have friends, I'm from LA,
so I have a lot of friends that are in that world.
And it's, you gotta kind of follow the rules and guidelines
of what they have.
How did you, all of a sudden, say I like what this guy
has to say, Trump and it was to transition
into now wanting to become a little more independent?
So the first transition I was in New York, I lived a few blocks from Trum Tower.
I had known who Donald Trump was because he ran Wallman Rink. I believe
Brandon owned the figure skating or the ice skating rink that I started
skating at when I was 10 or 11. Very strategic move. Yeah right. So that's the
only thing I knew about him honestly. I had seen him like give out medals at
one of our competitions. You literally knew nothing else about only thing I knew about him, honestly. I had seen him give out medals at one of our competitions.
You literally knew nothing else about him, but...
I knew that, and the fact that he had a TV show
that a lot of my friends watched, but I never watched.
So Donald was the guy that owned a place that we go to,
and that's about it. That's Mr. Donald.
In owns a place, he built the skating rink
that the city was unable to build, apparently.
It was a very big deal, I was told.
All if you look at any of my skating photos,
when I was like 10 or 11, just like the giant word Trump,
behind me, because he likes to put his name on stuff, obviously.
So that was all I knew.
I thought he was different and cool and angry,
and as someone who was told for six years
that I was never gonna skate again,
but wanting to get back on the ice,
I thought it was pretty special watching a guy
kind of be laughed at every day,
just tell the world he's gonna be president president despite being at 1% in the polls.
And I think that kind of got me in that position. So that was it. The fact that he was an
underdog. Yeah. So it wasn't even policies. You related to the fact that he was a fight.
Just the underdog. So then you go and you're like, okay, I'm going to help this, you know,
be part of the campaign. And then at one point, or you're kind of like, I'm really not a Republican.
I'm more independent.
What happened there?
I think growing up in New York City,
realizing I was more right than a lot of people,
I thought I was right wing, or like right leaning,
but it turns out just if you're a centrist in New York,
you're assumed to be right leaning.
That was all.
I like that he was pro-America.
I'll give him that.
When I was first starting out,
it was like America first and that's it. And I like that he was underdog. Like. I'll give him that. When I was first starting out, it was like America first,
and that's it.
And I like that he was on a dog.
That was it, just like the other dog story,
because I needed that in my life.
I think I met a lot of people around him
that were more right than him, but I still kind of see him
as a centrist, and I think when compared now,
even to DeSantis, people are starting to realize
he's possibly even more electable than a lot of people
in the right, I'm sure we'll talk about that,
as well, but I don't see him as right, as I think think a lot of people do I definitely don't see myself that way either but
It's like a weird space to be and I think to be common sense nowadays because you're assumed to be right
Let me ask you a question about New York Elizabeth
So I just was there this weekend and I love New York
But for a weekend right so you said that for New York
Yeah, you were you thought you were right wing
and just turns out you're a common sense,
you know, moderate normal person.
A lot of people are fleeing New York these days
at what 30 billion dollars of tax revenue
left over the last few years.
We just had Rudy Giuliani on the podcast,
what two weeks ago, the mayor who cleaned up New York City.
In New York City, I mean, maybe it's because I'm just conscious of it these days.
There's so much LGBT flags going around.
I saw trends like just apparently just, they're out there.
The trans communities out there just,
the radiance stomping.
My question to you is like, so you're a moderate, but in New York,
you would probably be considered right wing, maga.
Crazy.
Yeah, you'd be a lunatic there, but how do you grapple that?
The lunacy seems to be coming from that side of the aisle.
Yeah, you're the bigot, you're the weirdo,
for not just for just being a normal person.
How do you deal with that?
I mean, I don't mind it.
Honestly, it's like a weird space to be in because there's people I'll talk to here who
think I'm like way too far left.
So I don't mind it.
It's kind of nice.
I go back and forth quite a bit.
So I don't mind the balance.
I think I get pretty sick of it if I stayed in one spot and like realize how much I didn't
fit in.
But I feel like the whole country is just secretly a country about cider.
So I don't mind it at all.
And I don't feel like you should get bogged down because in the center of like New York City,
the center of the entire world, there's a lot of people that might disagree with you because if you go anywhere at the left or the right,
they're going to be on your side.
So I'm curious.
I know it's not a appropriate question to ask, but I think it's public.
You're how old?
1995.
You're June 26.
Get out of here.
That's Brooklyn's birthday.
Yeah, my daughter is going to do this. That's awesome. It's our anniversary as well. June 26. Get out of here. That's Brooklyn's birthday. Yeah, my daughter is going on. That's our anniversary as well. June 26. Okay. So you're 27-7 about to be 20. Okay. So
27 the Harvard extension, Harvard University of Pennsylvania. Are you doing a
Wharton or are you going just to you pen? I'm at the school of social policy in
practice. I have my last class tonight, actually, from the last year.
You're done with that?
Really?
Yeah.
Congratulations.
So here's my question for you, because we don't know what it's like.
All our ages start with the number four, and some of us would like to say starts with
the number three, but it's all four.
We're all on the force here, fully committed.
He just turned 40 for the third time.
Yeah, so happened again.
But the question is the following.
You said I was, you know, I was more, you know,
Trump camp and this, this, that, I realized
I'm not a Republican then independent.
Is anything with school teachers today
that you're still in school, are they,
have they influenced any of your policies or your views
while you're going to school in a season like this?
I don't think my views,
because I've gotten very lucky
with doing school partially online,
taking my time,
taking a little longer than I should have.
Obviously doing work on the side
that would probably change my mind
about anything they would tell me.
But I've seen, I mean,
the things I've seen in school,
I don't want to say anything
as I'm still in school right now,
but I mean, you can't.
It's very hard to escape
without being completely
radicalized like every class has some kind of undertone of
Every class everything. Yeah, so that's the part, you know
So what are some examples of that like when you say the undertone how much of it is?
Under the surface how much is this full on explicit? What what have you experienced?
I mean the Pete like the actual students very explicit before I went to Penn
I
spoke to like in a lump because I was very curious about like the anti-Israel sentiment on campus and I mean she warned me kind of what I was
kind of expecting but a little afraid of I think that's the worst part like the anti-Semitism anti-Israel bias that
hurts really scary I think Columbia and NYU are some of the worst in the country,
which is crazy because New York is full of Jews. That's kind of all I knew. I didn't know how
few Jews there were in the country growing up in New York because I thought everyone was Jewish.
So that's pretty scary, but I mean, it's hard. It's every single class and it's from current events
to like, you know, Rovers is weighed being overturned, meaning that we're mourning in class instead of
studying to literally to. That's what we don't know. We're mourning in class instead of studying. Literally. Literally.
Literally.
That's what we don't know.
We were mourning when Tupac died.
That was sad.
That was the teacher even was sitting there.
What a sad day.
I think my friend at NYU said when Trump won in 16, they all wore black to school for two
weeks as it was America's funeral.
Wasn't it?
Yeah.
And they literally started bringing in emotional support, like ponies and like literally they brought on the head like
Sessions where people did what did one of our girls here said that she lost friends because she didn't post the black Instagram
Square and people there's like why don't you post it's like what even what and I post almost like the pressure to have to post it
Yeah, you know my kids right now are going through the age where
There's bullying going on, okay?
And, you know, Dylan doesn't get bullied. He's not getting it.
He's choked me out, Dylan.
Dylan's the one that is the kid everybody wants to be friends with.
Yeah, yeah.
Because he's like, if you're friends with Dylan, you're scored away.
He gets the girls, he gets all that stuff.
That's Dylan.
He's got the energy.
Santa is the center of all attention.
You know, she's like in the class.
She's a girlfriend.
Everybody wants to have.
So Santa's friends are the pretty friends and all this stuff.
Brooklyn is home kicking it with Melvon.
Pop, she's chilling, right?
But Tico is going through the phase at 11 years old where things
are happening.
People are saying things.
Conversations are being had. It's being pushed. He's coming home. He's asking the questions. Why did they say this?
Why is this happening? And you have to know if a person comes home today and they don't have
somebody to talk to, to reason with most of the time unless if this kid has got a strong backbone
character at that age, you're going to cave because your entire MO in school when you're younger is to what?
To conform and to be popular.
You want to be cool.
You want people to like you.
You want to be like, man, they don't like me.
Well, she said, I'm stupid.
She said, what a dumb thing.
And you're like, oh my gosh, she said that.
And he said this to your so much trying to join the club.
And imagine, even if we went to school,
how much do you remember when we went to school?
How much do you remember politics being involved?
Zero.
I didn't, since,
because me and Power Board in the military,
I didn't know what left or right
or anything was till I got out
and I moved to Los Angeles,
then I was like, holy shit,
like the Trump situation made me go,
oh my God, is it that bad,
that they don't wanna lose that soul in that power?
I did you hear anything in school,
but last or not?
I don't remember.
I mean, listen, it would happen,
some things would happen,
and people would make their comments,
but to be everybody dresses black in school,
because of what happened Trump,
and Roe v Wade, everybody's mourning, instead of,
it's gotta be a weird season today.
One lady I'm talking to, who's one of the most powerful
recruiters in the insurance industry,
she's executive, she hired C-sweets for companies.
So she hired all the C-sweets for companies.
We're having a conversation.
I said, you know, have to battle right now.
She's little older than me, your kids are under 20s.
I say, you know, the challenge we're parenting today
is the goal is to make sure you don't screw your kids up too 20s. I see no the challenge with parenting today is the goal is to make sure you
don't screw your kids up too much, okay, because it's like you're you're having to deal with how hard
it is to be a parent today, but it's got to be even much harder to be a kid today. Oh my god.
From the angles you're being targeted. Was it like that for you in high school as well or not really?
I went to high school online because I wanted to go to the Olympics.
But in middle school, I was bullied really badly,
not over politics, but I mean, I ate lunch
in the bathroom for months.
Like, I was really bullied.
So, thinking back, now if that ended up being political,
I don't know what I probably would have done
just to get to eat lunch with my friends.
Did that tough on you up a little bit?
I think so.
Okay, well, I mean, listen, it is what it is.
Favorite figure skating movie.
I mean, ice princess.
Ice princess?
Yeah, of course.
Why would I make it a choose from?
Yeah, and then favorite figure skaters,
are somebody that you, you know, like a lot.
There's a Russian skater named,
give you a Pleshanko, who is the reason I started skating.
Wow.
Wow, okay, yeah, there's a, I remember there's a picture
of me and Mary Lou Retten.
And I'm introducing her.
And I remember I'm standing next to her.
I'm like, Mary Lou Retten, she was like,
I don't know how tall she is.
She's got like four, 10 or four.
She's a gymnast.
They're even smaller than her.
Yeah, you're scared.
Yeah, but who's the one, Mokocini?
What's the one?
Dominica Muciano.
Dominica Muciano. She's a gymnast as well. Yeah, she's a one? Dominica Mochiano. Dominica Mochiano.
She's a gymnast as well.
Yeah, she got your sportswear.
She follows the podcast.
She follows the podcast.
On Twitter, we go back and forth and up,
but Mary Lou Retten Tiny, our figure skaters
also tiny like a-
They're pretty small.
Okay, you're not smaller, you're fun.
No, it wasn't good for me.
I was supposed to do pairs actually,
because I was so tiny.
And then after I got injured,
I came back and I had grown probably like I was so tiny. And then after I got injured, I came back
and I'd grown probably like 10 inches
and gained like 80 pounds, and I realized,
all that was out the window.
Done.
Done.
So height doesn't help in that world.
After five, two, you're pretty screwed.
Yeah.
Well, it helps in modeling,
it's a complete different space.
I'm like a tiny bit too short for that,
and then too tall for it.
So you're riding the middle.
Yeah.
So that's what you want to politics?
Yes, where I'm also riding the middle.
You see? Yeah, but some people would say, you also think Trump's riding the middle. Yeah, so that's what you want to politics. Yes, I'm also riding the middle
Yeah, but some people would say you also think Trump's in the middle and that would drive some people insane today People think people think Rogan is a Republican today. He's far right
Someone said that to me yesterday. They're like yeah, that guy Joe Rogan. He's like super strong like far right guy
I'm like Joe Rogan
He was a Bernie Sanders supporter
But we we showed this on the podcast the other day
with the cartoon stick figure thing with Elon Musk
about basically how far the left has gone.
And you can make the case that some of the people
on the right have also a little far gone,
but I think if you're comparing apples to apples,
yeah, this thing right here,
the left has kind of lost their mind a lot of times.
This thing right here, 2008 left is kind of lost their mind a lot of times. This thing right here, 2008 tweets
about American, I mean, can you scroll in on that punch in? Center, yeah. So nothing's
changed. It's just a lot has changed, but center went to the right and a bunch of the people
on the left are kind of like now seen as republican you constantly hear things like if jfk was a
candidate today you'd be republican that's it something show would be a
clinton you know it's here with that we go into some issues i'm okay okay so
first the show i want to hit up is what happened with you and your uh... ex uh...
over the weekend Chelsea handler so this is pretty wild uh... you you
text me in the middle of the night now and i look at the sound like you got to
be kidding me.
So apparently Adam has triggered Chelsea Handler
where her teammate of video edited with Adam
responding to Adam as an alpha man
and you should see what she had to say.
Rob, please play this clip and we'd like to get
a little bit of reactions.
You guys are easily triggered, don't watch. Three men in their 40s and somebody in their 20s. You're easily triggered, don't watch. Go ahead, go ahead, play this clip and we'd like to get a little bit of reactions You guys are easily triggered, don't watch
Three men in their 40s and somebody in their 20s
You're easily triggered, don't watch
Go ahead, go ahead, play this
45% of working women ages 25 to 45
By 2030 will be non-married, no kids single
Okay, so you might say, well what's wrong with that?
Okay
I'll tell you what's wrong with that.
Nothing.
I usually don't do things like this, but when I have to listen to men talk like that,
I have no choice but to sedate myself with drugs.
How come all of them?
Lately, I've been loud and proud about my status as a single, unmarried, childless, wild woman.
And apparently some men cannot handle that.
Every time I go on Instagram, I stumble upon S.D.E. morons, like this guy pontificating
about how unhappy women like me must be.
If you think that you're going to be 45 years old, no kids, not married, and that you're
going to genuinely be fulfilled in life. Because you made money.
Best of luck to you honey.
No, best of luck to you honey.
That clip was posted to an Instagram account called
Alpha Motivation Zero.
You got the zero part right.
Everybody that follows that account is getting zero Pikachu.
I'm sorry, but if the child-free joyride I'm on triggers you, here's a hint. If you
need daily alpha content to remind you to be alpha, you might not be an alpha. Take it
from an alpha. And the truth is, studies show that single women live longer and are happier.
You want to know why? Because they wake up every day and they don't have to listen to
dick like you. Anyway, I have to go because my single Unmarried
Ass is about to perform at my sold out comedy show.
I didn't invite you, but there are no tickets left.
Bye.
Wow.
Yeah, wow.
So what was your first reaction when you saw that, by the way?
Well, does anything scream?
I'm so happy at Shocking Vodka at 9 a.m.
I'm so happy with my life as I'm funneling vodka. Yeah.
As soon as I wake up. Yeah. So clearly she's triggered. Clearly, if I'm in her position right now,
I'm doing everything I can to justify my life's decisions. Yeah. And it's one of those things where
don't get mad at me, Chelsea Handler, get mad at the facts. All I was doing is reading a report from Morgan Stanley,
pretty credible source.
They gave a report called the She Economy, right?
Not the Economy, the She Economy.
And essentially what they did was state some facts
about how modern day feminism has, I guess,
empowered women to work, get that bag, make that money.
That's great.
But what are the ramifications of those decisions?
Well, the ramifications is you might end up
like Chelsea Handler alone, single, no man in your life,
and just banging a bunch of random dudes
that you meet on engine, rye, and bumble.
And if that's what you want out of your life,
follow the Chelsea Handler path.
But if you wanna be a beautiful feminine woman
like our friend over here today,
maybe you balance having a career, but also understanding that you want to be a beautiful feminine woman, like our friend over here today, maybe you balance having a career,
but also understanding that you should also be
a feminine, beautiful woman.
And last point, she called herself,
take it from an alpha.
No dude wants an alpha chick with packing BDE,
telling him what to do.
And I responded on Twitter and I'll be able to pull that up.
I said, maybe that's why guys like 50 cent, with packing BDE, telling him what to do. And I responded on Twitter and I'll be able to pull that up.
I said, maybe that's why guys like 50 cent,
Joe Koy and the chef, whatever, I forget the Bobby Flay,
basically hit it and quit it.
Because yeah, they'll bang you out, Chelsea.
But they're not gonna wife you up.
And at the end of the day, I think that is the,
the, what a woman is looking for, news flash on me.
Men don't want alpha chicks with BDE.
Maybe that's why 50 cent Bobby Flay enjoy K-Hit it
and quit it.
At 48, your beauty and humor for sure have faded.
You drown yourself with alcohol and drugs
to sedate your sorrow.
And then I took a line from wedding crashers,
now go comba toast for me, baby.
What do you think about this?
That was a lot.
I mean, it was. Now go comb my toes for me, baby. What do you think about this? There was a lot.
It was.
I don't know about the hitting and quitting it situation.
I'm not a guy that's possible.
I don't know.
I got married when I was very young and people seemed very unhappy about that.
Wait, you're still married?
I am still married.
I know, right?
I didn't say, I didn't say happily.
I didn't say.
Wow, there's still an opportunity, but he didn't say half.
He said not half.
You'll come back.
No, I'm talking.
So how old are you when you're good at married?
I was 23.
People thought I was absolutely bad shit.
Most people thought I was pregnant, which I was not.
I don't know, I think it's weird.
I think the entire world seems to be very big on encouraging
people to do things that might make them feel better about themselves so that everyone can be miserable together.
Like that kind of seems like what it is from like middle school people are bullying me.
People really don't like when anyone does something that might make them happy or different because they want everyone to be miserable together, you know?
You know, Zary loves company.
By the way, do you know her story? Do you know what happened to her when she was a kid?
Tell us a. Yeah, do you know happened to her when she was a kid? Tells it?
Yeah, do you know what happened to her when she was a kid?
So apparently, so I was actually like,
curious to know like, why is this girl so,
she knows she does not seem happy.
And then you see some of her clips.
Happy people don't try to convince people they're happy.
Right. You know how somebody who is,
what happened at him?
No, he's pulling up. You know how somebody who is what happened at him? No, he's pulling up. You know how somebody is,
you know, trying so hard to convince you that they're good or they're happy or they're successful or
they're smart. There's typically a very deep insecurity pain. There's something there, right?
So for example, you ask Michael the question, who's the greatest of all time? Michael says it's unfair
because there's a lot of different guys that can be for me.
He never says I'm the greatest of all time.
You asked LeBron LeBron says what?
I'm the greatest of all time.
It's a different perspective.
This girl's brother died at seven or eight years old,
and a family had such a hard time with it
that apparently they stopped, you know,
paying attention to her and she went through that pain
as a kid
of what happened there, okay?
So, you don't become like this by accident.
She's gone through numbers of therapy sessions.
Conan O'Brien had a run talking about,
why do you have a guy pee on you in the middle of the ocean
and you post a video?
There's a video that came out live about her
with, you know, sex tape and all this stuff.
I really wanted to be out there.
This is an older tape.
It's almost like a person you talk to that offends you first
in case you are going to make them feel bad to kind of
belittle you to feel better about themselves.
You can't feel like she's going through them.
Quite frankly, here's a challenge.
How many followers does she have?
Go to her account, Twitter, how many followers
that just click on a link.
What is it?
7.8 million?
7.6 million.
She gets a lot of eyeballs.
A lot of people follow her.
She's admired by people from that space.
If you actually go to the tweet that she tweeted
and read the comments under her.
So go to the video that she tweeted and watch the comments.
So it's not like she's alone here,
zoom in a little bit.
So as you were in a suit to a misogyny discussion, oh man, okay, there you go. The first one. The reason I chose to be single is because of men like this. There's an overwhelmingly large number of men would
what is it? Muturity of what is it? Muturity. Muturity of babies who think it is my job to be the
mother. Is it shocking? I would choose fun vacations doing stuff with friends and making money over that What is it mute sure to sure to your babies who think it is my job to be the mother
Is it shocking? I would choose fun vacations doing stuff with friends and making money over that and
Then some guy responds back LOL you let random men online dictate how you live your life remember your interview with
Kumani and all you could do is focus on the facts that he's a Muslim if
It was strange anyways, so there's a lot of people
if it was strange. Anyways, so there's a lot of people.
I'm almost 49, childless, unmarried and quite happy
to not have to pick up after a jerk,
jerk, what man?
Jerk what man, I have my dog and cat for the company.
And I have, I mean, that's the world for shit.
I have my dog in my cat.
Long as she's got a vibrator, she's happy as hell.
That's the common record.
She said.
And the pad, that comes from two Adam.
You guys know this, when you're,
she was on the Chelsea Handler show, which was like successful and she was out there. You used pat that comes from too, Adam, you guys know this when you're she was on the Chelsea
Handler show, which is like successful and she was out there used to be very funny.
No, dude, hilarious.
The writers were dope.
Everything was on point.
Once that window closes, then you got nothing going on.
You're sitting there drinking.
She has to come at people like you to make herself roll it again.
I'm really good friends with Joe coin.
I think that whole going on tour with him and we're dating and everything was just a big up her name
to draw his audience.
Now she's selling all places again
because of that stuff.
That's how Hollywood works, bro.
She's not relevant.
Now she's relevant again.
Nobody cares about what she does with it.
I generally don't care.
Live your life, get married, don't get married.
I love it.
Literally, could care less about it.
I don't wake up and think about Chelsea Handler,
but who I do care about are the women that I speak to.
We all know I do a show, Sawascast, that I interview hundreds of wide variety types of women.
I've had women in their 40s, break down in tears, crying, basically saying,
I'm alone, I have my eggs are frozen, I don't have a man, I used to be hot,
now guys don't look at me the same.
I was fed a crock of shit by feminism.
Okay, but taking it a step further,
I also interviewed a ton of model volleyball
that I was just at.
I was just, we did rolling loud, we did ultra.
We just did Tortuga interview a ton of women
who are all in their early 20s and their mid 20s.
And they're going down this path.
I don't need no man, I don't like all that.
And to see the writing on the wall
of what the future will hold,
I think is what I'm most concerned about.
Nobody gives a shit about what Chelsea does with her life.
It's the fact that to her eight million followers
or whoever's going to her show
are gonna be fed this bull crap.
And when I see women cry, break down,
wish that they had a better life than what they have now.
I think that's the biggest problem.
By the way, do you have that clip of her day in the life of a modern woman?
We played it a couple months ago, a month ago.
I don't want to play it again.
We played it.
It's pretty cringe.
But that to me is indicative of what's going on.
She wakes up at 6 a.m.
She says she takes an edible masterbates, goes back to bed at noon, then she flies to
Paris and she meets a random dude
on Raya, bangs him, then you know, just lives her life, then she basically puts on a VR set
of goggles, goes into the metaverse, she's not a real person.
She does this stuff to capitalize on an audience to make money.
The problem is, if you're a gal who's just an accountant and you're focused on your career and you're 43
and you follow Chelsea, nobody cares about you.
You just, you go home to your dog, your cat,
your vibrator, and that's your life.
And you know when this is gonna catch up on her,
when she's in her, let's say 70s, 80s,
hope that she lives that long,
and she's not feeling well or shit's going down ill.
No kids are gonna be there, no husband's gonna be there
to help her, who are you gonna go to?
You're gonna just have help that you pay for
when you want somebody that loves you
and is genuinely caring for you
to be there to help you.
That's what a cheese.
She's almost 50.
It ain't, yo, it's happening.
It's coming.
She's 49.
Yeah, that's what vodka does for you.
That's exactly.
Well, you know, this goes back to a deeper issue.
Remember the Wall Street Journal story
we talked about that did a declined in American values, right?
About not wanting kids, not wanting fame.
So somebody asked a question, somebody asked a question.
And I kinda, I think it's important for you to respond to this.
So somebody said, okay Adam, so you're saying she's this,
she's an or 40, she's that, she has no kids, she has no this.
You're in your 40s, you're not married, you have no kids.
Why can you judge her, but people cannot judge you?
That was a question I was asked.
I think it's a very good question for you to respond.
I think that's a, I get that question all the time.
Are you basically saying that men and women are the same?
I think it takes a while.
It takes years for a man to mature to reach his status.
You know, they say that men are success objects
and women are beauty objects.
By the time you're 40 Chelsea, your beauty has faded.
Have you ever seen the sexual market value chart?
Men are judged on their resources, their money,
their age, their income, their game, their personality.
There's a whole host of things that men are judged on, okay?
Women, 80% of the chart is their beauty.
Like news flash, guys like pretty women, all right?
You're a model, congratulations.
Like you wouldn't be modeling
if guys found you unattractive.
That's what men are judged on.
And I speak to so many young guys out there
that are 19, 20, 25, they haven't hit their market.
Women aren't paying attention to them.
They have no money, they have no game,
they have nothing, I'm like, dude, it takes time to marinate.
Women reach their success on the front end, okay?
I know plenty of girls in Miami that are 21, 25 who basically get invited on yachts,
billionaires yachts just because they're pretty. I'm sure you've been there. You're on Palm Beach, you get it.
No dudes are getting invited on yachts. You need to work your ass off to buy the fucking yachts.
Yeah, Okay.
So men and women are not the same.
And the difference is my outlook, my perspective.
I'm not that dude being like, I'm single bro,
all I do is smash and that's what I wanna do the rest of my life.
It's like, no, I've had my fun, I've done it all.
I've made money, I made connections.
Now I'm actually looking for the next phase of life.
So no, the two are not the same.
At 43, now I'm at my peak, money, financial status, my work. And now I have what is known as
options. Chelsea is completely out of our. Are you, are you saying, are you saying she's your
type? Is that kind of, I guess maybe 20 years ago, Chelsea. You're like her and is it like, do
we need to say Chelsea?
If you're watching this I would love to have a conversation
with free.
It would be great for the chance of me wiping up a 48 year old
has been Chelsea handler is non-existent.
If she has a younger 24 year old sister, holler.
All right.
So any comments from your end or can we skip to the next story?
Now we should skip.
Let's get to the next story.
We have to put that out there.
I say one thing here.
Yeah.
Because a lot of people are gonna cut this up and be like,
here's a massager and see hates women.
I love women.
I hang out with women, my best friends are women,
like other than my actual guy friends,
my co-host and my show, female, I love women.
I get along with women, I'm friends with women.
This is not massager-y, okay?
It's, I want to see the best for women. And I don't think Chelsea Handler's outcome is the friends with women. This is not misogyny. Okay, I want to see the best for women,
and I don't think Chelsea Handler's outcome
is the best for women.
Okay, good.
Get it off your chest.
It's it.
I'm gonna lose that.
You sent a little like Donald Trump.
You're done.
No one knows women, more than I love women.
I love them all.
I grab them.
Yeah.
You know what?
All right.
Okay, so let's grab this next story here.
Kanye West, who lost fortune after anti-Semitic tie-rate,
says he likes Jewish people again.
That's kind of good news for us.
I think he deleted that, all right.
This is a-
It was an Instagram post.
Yeah, it was an Instagram post.
I think he's paying his mind already.
Nick Fuentes was paid apparently $30,000
by Kanye West's presidential campaign.
And that's a story that just came in when.
Is this, that's yesterday the hill.
So let me read this story to you
and see what your thoughts are on this.
So Nick Fuentes was paid 30K by Kanye West presidential campaign.
Federal Election Commission filings revealed
that 2020 presidential campaign of Rapper,
Kanye West was paid far right activists
and white supremacists Nick Fuentes
over $30,000 for archival services
and a travel reimbursement according to data from federal election commission,
he launched a long shot run for president 2020 alongside former president Donald Trump,
despite openly being a Trump supporter and earned about 60,000 votes on election day.
Fuentes has been labeled a white supremacist by the Justice Department and is known for his
racist anti-Semitic rhetoric. Kanye has also come under fire for anti-Semitic comments. has been labeled a white supremacist by the Justice Department and is known for his racist,
racist, anti-Semitic rhetoric.
Kanye has also come under fire for anti-Semitic comments.
What are your thoughts on the story?
I knew that Fwantus was working for him.
I think we all kind of saw that break a few months ago.
Fwantus is an absolute monster.
Like truly, I think I've seen a few of his clips explaining in terms of like cookies in
an oven how six million Jews could not have possibly perished
in the Holocaust.
That's just the beginnings of the things that he says.
So he's absolutely just despicable.
I don't want to know how he got to Kanye.
I don't know what happened to Kanye.
I was a giant fan of Kanye's growing up
and up until recently.
I listened to his music all the time.
I loved skating to it and working out to it.
Yeah, he was kind of like the underdog inspiration in his own way as well.
Right, the underdog.
Always, yes.
I've loved Kanye forever.
So very disappointing.
I launched a Holocaust Education Project in honor of this whole situation called, you can
find it, educate Kanye.
But yeah, it was really disappointing.
I think he's going through something because normal people do not not only want to associate
with Fuentes, but want to hire him to make him president.
So it doesn't make a lot of sense.
I think if something's off or sick,
then we should just let him get help.
But.
Do you think kind of can do anything to,
because apparently this whole story
about him watching Jonah Hill,
whatever the story comes through,
when he comes through, and kind of change my mind,
like Jewish people again, all this stuff.
And this was a story about a month ago or three weeks ago.
Do you think he can do anything to get back
to who he was before, or is this a permanent career,
done decision that's gonna ruin him for years
and years to come?
No, I think he can come back.
He can come back.
A, America loves an underdog, but I think people love
when people grow up, apologize, take responsibility and move on.
And I think this is a very easy thing to apologize for.
You know, there's no reason he can't say, hey, really was going to do something,
had no idea the garbage that was coming out of his people's mouths.
I apologize and I'll visit a Holocaust Museum, I'll focus on writing music and
making amends and take it from there.
One day at a time.
Is it kind of like if he wrote a song instead of Jesus
walked, is Jesus never walked?
Can I do it?
He said Jesus was a Jew.
And he gets the, maybe that's like the next remix he does
to see what happens.
So there is a possibility that in the future,
you could figure skate and listen to his music again.
Yeah, I mean, possibly.
That's a tough one. You don't sound committed to it.
He was, he's known for his music.
He's not known for politician Kanye West.
So I will always admire his music.
All right.
Okay. Adam, any thoughts on this one?
Yeah, of course.
Nick Fuentes.
Nick Fuentes specifically,
well, I just covered a story that he did with my friend Pearl,
Pearl Davis, Pearl E. Things, Mass YouTuber in the Manusphere Red Pill Space,
and she invited him on the show.
And listen, when you play stupid games,
you win stupid prizes,
and you sit down with the guy like Nick Fuentes,
who is 24, and now he's the expert on the Holocaust.
Right.
Okay.
By the way, it's interesting that Kanye is able to thread the needle of, because white
supremacist anti-Semite, so it's like Kanye will, you know, he'll tune out the anti-Semitic
stuff.
I'm sorry, tune out the anti-black stuff, but just kind of focus on the anti-Semitic stuff.
It's like, I know you hate blacks and Jews and dogs, but I'm just going to focus on the
Jewish part with you, Nick.
So Nick, I think I actually reached out.
What was the situation, Rob?
So I basically responded to Pearl,
and I was basically like, look, Pearl, stay in your lane.
If you wanna be in the dating, red pill space,
why get into debates over the merits of slavery
or the accuracy of slavery and the Holocaust?
It's like, what's the benefit for your specific career?
Do you know how this girl is?
Pearl Davis?
I don't know.
Okay, I'm sure you've seen her online.
Take a picture.
But I basically was like, your reputation is who you are,
even if it's not who you are.
So Nick, you ever seen this girl?
Oh yeah.
She's not, okay, gotcha.
So even, I think Nick said, hey, I'm not a white supremacist. What was the response?
Well, Nick's camp reached out and they wanted to see if you'd be interested in sitting down with him
The the quote was he's being smeared as a white supremacist by Adam
But I am one of many examples of proof to the contrary as I am a black man and this was his
Middleman and what is and what is one test?
What he's that's a lot in last name, right?
He's Latino.
One does and he's and he's be just saying, oh, land is shit.
Yeah, well, it's not like I put the word white supremacist
out there.
You have Wikipedia, the guy.
Wikipedia say it's the first thing.
The American white supremacist political commentator.
Yeah, I don't know.
So all I'm doing is reading.
I'm not defending the guy at all whatsoever.
But be careful when you're saying,
just because Wikipedia says something about somebody
that that's who they are.
That's not how I judge it.
What has happened is,
if these stories are surrounding you,
there's a reason for it.
Some of it is probably because you're trying to get eyeballs and I saw them
I think in one clip if this is the same guy that he was following Ben Shapiro while he's
crossing the street with his kids, I think is it the same guy? Okay, listen, if you're
doing that to get the eyeballs great, it's, you work them, it's working for you, people
are talking about you, but there's certain things, you know,
I don't know if you want certain things
to be your identity out there.
So maybe you can come on a podcast
and you guys can talk to each other.
Look, maybe I'll bring him down
to the Holocaust Museum in Miami Beach
and we'll sit down and have a cup of coffee right there
or we can go to the Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC.
And let's see if that's something that he'd be open to.
Maybe you'd like to join us.
Sure.
We'll discuss. Yeah. Okay, so let's talk about that's something that he'd be open to. Maybe you'd like to join us. Sure. We'll discuss.
Yeah.
Okay.
So let's talk about Trump and the Santas. I know as a model and somebody that goes to
University of Pennsylvania and you about to graduate tonight, your last class, are you
comfortable talking about this or could you get an F if you give commentary on it?
So let's get right into it.
Trump holds wider, wide lead over the Santas
among Georgia, GOP voters in 2024 primary,
pulled despite the ex-presidents' endorsement flaps
against top state Republicans last year.
Okay, so this is a story from the inside
of that just came out.
Let me read some of the highlights of this story here.
So, okay, so Paul of likely Republican primary votes
on Georgia found that former President Donald Trump
leads a former governor on the census,
51 to 31, 51 to 30 in a potential 2024 race.
The survey also found that Trump retains an average
with the party's most conservative voters,
as well as those who are older,
and those who do not have a college degree,
the census performed better in the poll among
Republican college graduates,
and was competitive with the Trump among higher income members of the party.
The polls show that 89% of GOP voters said the recent indictment of Trump by the Manhattan
District Attorney's Office over his involvement in a hush money, payment to the adult film
actress, Stormy Daniels, shouldn't bar him from seeking the presidency again.
What are your thoughts when it comes
on to Trump and the census for 2024?
I have a lot of thoughts just because I live here,
and this is all anyone ever wants to talk about
for some reason.
I think the Sanctus is severely overhyped.
I think people really want to move on from Donald Trump
on both sides, even those that love him.
I think secretly dream about a time
where they can go to work and not be asked
about their opinion on Donald Trump.
I think people think the San
Dysus is that guy because after
2016 people still don't understand why Trump won
and really want someone to be the next
something and they think a Republican
with 5% of Trump's personality could do that.
They think the San Dys is the guy.
I don't see it.
I don't think this is going to last.
I think the indictment.
Unfortunately, it's probably one of the first
indictments Trump's going to see. We saw what happened to
his poll numbers after that. And I think that's what we're going to see for the next year.
Okay. So you're 27. You're about to finish, you know, NBA is a, you know, you're getting
a master's master's master. You're about to finish your masters. You're married. You're
living in Palm Beach and New York back and forth. What policies, what matters to you the most today
when it comes onto candidates?
So if you were to say at this age, where I am, who I am,
this is what matters to me.
I want to see this, this, this.
What would those items be for you?
Those policies be?
Honestly, it's weird if you asked me six months ago,
I could list a bunch.
And now I'm just like, let's not go into war
with Russia and China.
I'm just scared for what the hell is going to happen to America.
And I want whatever comes after Joe Biden to actually protect those from the world,
which really wants us dead.
Like, it's that simple.
So I'd say whoever can keep America safe and keep a country in existence
for my future children, that's number one right now.
What's two?
I don't think they're in order.
I'd say foreign policy-wise, America first, very simple.
When it comes to in the country, I think, for example,
keeping something like abortion,
like I consider myself pro-life.
But I think keeping Americans kind of stable
and not arguing over how far left or how far right
we can be based on whose administration is in power,
like that's a normal thing that we should be able to agree on.
I think the San, this is too far right on that.
For example, we just saw that.
Six weeks.
Yeah.
I think Trump actually said when I could be wrong.
When Texas passed the six week, the same rule.
I think Trump said it was a little complex and he wasn't sure if he agreed with it.
So I think there's 2021, I believe.
I think a balance is very necessary.
I think people really want to see the right beat,
the left or the left beat, the right depending on,
what side you're on.
I just want a normal country.
I want a balance.
I want harmony.
I want people not punching each other in the street
based on who they voted for in 2016.
And I want to know that people are saved.
The kids are saved.
The religious liberty is saved.
Just very basic common sense.
American values that I grew up with
that I'm kind of scared or disappearing.
So let me read that story for you and I want to get your comments thoughts on this.
Florida lawmakers past six-speak abortion law, this is a Wall Street Journal story, they
have passed a bill banning abortion after six weeks of pregnancy, a strict measure that
indicates Republicans aren't backing away from efforts to curtail abortion access even
in the states where such efforts may carry political risk,
a poll, and marched by the University of North Carolina, found that 75% of Floridians opposed
banning abortion starting at six weeks of pregnancy, all by it, but with no exceptions for
rape and incest.
The final hurdle for the bill is a signature from Governor Ron DeSantis, who has said he
would sign legislation limiting abortion if it crosses his desk.
If enacted, the bill would ban most abortions in the state and with limited exceptions,
including for rape and incest and for certain medical emergencies.
Since the Supreme Court overturned Robiway last June, roughly a dozen states have banned
most abortions.
So you're not with six weeks.
I think majority of Americans,
I'm not mistaken, are uncomfortable with that.
They are, yeah.
Yeah, it's that simple.
Americans don't support this.
You know, when you want an America
that's living in harmony,
and when issues are that serious,
and that nuance, and that emotion over so many people,
I don't think the whole like beat the left, beat the right,
you know, debate and wokeness,
and you know, social media going viral,
like all these things that politicians are focusing on right now, I don't think that's necessary
for an issue as serious as abortion.
You think that's going to be a big topic of discussion for 2024?
You think the left's going to use that a lot?
Depending on who the nominee is, but yes, for sure.
Let's just say an energized guy named Joe Biden is the nominee and he's going up against
a Trump or a dissentist.
How different would it be?
Um, I think if the Santa's is the nominee with the six-week, you know, ban, I think it'd be more prevalent, but no, people are going to bring it up for sure. I think that was the big topic of the
midterms. We kind of realized, I mean, I see it going on on college campuses. I see what's
happening with young people and that's, I'd say their top three issues, like abortion is one of them.
College is a university. We've been talking about. They're talking about abortion.
Yeah, well, don't forget just during the midterms, it was supposed to be a red wave.
Yeah.
Right, I mean, for months and months and months, it's a red wave.
All this always happens, you can come to the president when he's in there and there's
a midterm election and then what we saw happen was a red tear drop, basically.
So they took over the house representatives.
They didn't do anything with the Senate.
And one of the major reasons why was this DOBS decision
overturning Rovers Wade.
Yeah.
You know, there's speculation that Mitch McConnell
manufactured this because he didn't want
to take over that bullshit.
I think this was uncalculated in a horrible decision
by the Republicans.
They should have waited until after the midterms do this.
So clearly this is a major issue, especially for women.
Now, if when it comes to DeSantis and Florida, this makes no sense to me.
Because if you're trying to win a primary, okay, you may be appealed to the base, okay,
maybe that works for you.
But we all know that basically the way that it works
is during the primary, you appeal to your base
and then you pivot in the general election
to appeal to the center.
Nobody in America, there is no appetite
for a six week abortion ban.
There's no appetite.
We can have conversations about 12 weeks, 15 weeks,
pro-life, pro-choice, nobody.
This is draconian at best.
Not nobody, it's not nobody, it's just not the majority.
So it's not a nobody thing when you say that.
And the Mitch McConnell, you don't know
if that did happen or not as a strategy.
Nobody knows that, nobody can sit there and say,
that was in the case, we're all speculating here.
These are our opinions that we're given.
It's not 100% certainty that we know one way or another.
Well, what percent to do? Yeah.
To do what is kind of weird is after what happened with Roe v Wade,
everybody in the country already knows where the Santa stands.
You don't need to do this. Like this is not a policy to attack, to get the conservative people to say,
oh, he's even more conservative than I thought.
I, you know, I don't know if this is the right direction to go,
but, you know, he's choosing to go this direction.
Why do you think he's doing this?
Like, if you're, if you're his strategist,
if you're his chief strategist and you're saying,
all right, you got to run to the right of center,
but everyone's saying the reason that people like you
is because you're, quote unquote, left of Trump.
Right. Right of Trump.
Why would you do this?
This makes no sense to me.
He also did it, didn't he sign at like 11 p.m.
in a room somewhere he knows that's not gonna be popular.
He's not a stupid guy.
Why would you do this Pat?
Six weeks.
Why would he do this?
Yeah, why would he do this?
Okay, you're either doing this because it's truly a belief
that you have, and let's just say that's what he really
believes in based on his values and principles. They're thinking this is going to get people
that weren't there for him to support him, which I believe he already has that vote.
Maybe it's a position to differentiate himself from Trump to say, hey, I am not like Trump,
while Trump is casual with this and he'll go up to whatever
the number is, 12 weeks or 16 weeks, 20 weeks, I'm not going past six weeks, could be a way
of him wanting certain conservative people to, okay, this guy is more conservative than
we thought.
There's so many different ways you can look at this year.
I don't know strategically if this would be the policy, I would touch if you wanna become president
after we saw what happened on midterms.
I don't understand it strategically either,
but like she said, he's not a dummy.
He's a very smart guy.
You know who the synthesis, here's who the synthesis.
You know how in a group text,
you're with your friends and your buddies
and everybody's talking shit
and you're sending texts and one guy sends a picture of this
And you know how we kind of send stuff to you
We say stuff to each other with guys that maybe you wouldn't you know wouldn't do it in a different
You're referring to what is known as locker room talk. Well, you want to call a locker room talk
Whatever I would do this. I would do this to her and I would do that. Let me tell you all this stuff like guys that talk
Yeah, he's the guy that would just do one emoji lol
But you would never say and engage.
That's him.
So you have to know who he is, meaning this guy has been thinking
about this since he was very young,
that one day this is gonna happen,
and he's careful who he takes pictures with,
he's careful, he's that guy, okay.
This is not a Trump, he's like,
I'm gonna give a shit, man, I'm doing this,
I'm doing that, you don't like it. I don't know.
This is, so there's a very different style.
So if that's how he's branding himself,
and he decides to get away from that brand,
we already have somebody that's away from that brand.
Your brand is the opposite of Trump, okay?
Your brand is the safe guy.
Your brand is the, you know, this is the guy
that we settle down with.
We have that brand.
He's very safe.
By the way, I think he's a strong leader.
I think in a way, this also helps knowing he's probably careful with the decisions he's
going to be making.
If he does become a president, I think he will make a good president.
I think there's a part of him that he'll make a great president later on.
It's just, you know, whether people already would him be in there today and whether this was a good move at a time like this.
I don't know.
You got 20 other issues you can pick and choose from,
to go from.
You can choose the border.
You can choose economy.
You can choose COVID.
You can go after more Fauci.
You can do education.
You can go after the trends.
You can do so many different things.
This one's gonna upset some people on the right
that are pro-choice. So. You said it. There's a lot of closet pro choices by the
one the right. Oh, I mean, Lauren made her name. Yeah, I'm sure job with the
place not closet though. No, she's vocal. No, no, I don't think you're in someone
I'm saying like there are people that will say I'm pro life. But inside, this
is a man I kind of have to be pro choice seven years ago. No, no, no, no, no,
there's a lot of a
Closet pro-choiceers that none of us know about. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, but yeah, but yeah, so Elizabeth
I think what if it comes down so so Trump because you were you were involved with the campaign right in
2000s. Yeah, so you obviously saw it firsthand. Trump did not get a fair shake. I don't care what anybody says before he won
They all the investigation from Russia to the collusion to draining the swamp and
the media just turning on them. I've nobody's ever seen anything like that because they were
all, they all bow down to the powers that be. If it came down to her right now, are you going,
are you voting for Trump or the Santa if it comes down to that left or right?
Trump, the Santa's I would vote for Donald Trump.
You would 100% go for Donald Trump. And besides all the thing that we just talked about,
what's your, just from what you've seen in the past?
Or are you just sticking to your guns?
Cause you're like, he is for the people
and he sacrificed everything for us.
It's like such a basic, non-almost educated answer,
but I just, I hate politicians.
Like I've just been around them so much,
I cannot stand them.
And he's a politician and I don't like that.
It's that simple.
What do you not like about politicians?
They're just the rehearsed and much like,
we just talked about the closeted approach to our people.
Like they're just all horrible.
Like all politicians really.
They'll tell you what you want to hear
with doesn't matter, they'll compromise anything as long.
There's not a statement or like a decision
that comes out of their mouth that doesn't come from
like a whole language or a whole lot of it.
Give us an example of it.
Of somebody.
I was just gonna say,
like who would be the poster child?
You think so?
All of a truly any part.
What name did you say?
I said the Santa's,
but that's the only cause he's
through talked about now.
Anyone before Donald Trump,
anyone after Trump.
Well, she's saying because he is a politician.
Like Ted Cruz, when you look at Ted Cruz,
you look at Ted Cruz,
he just says what,
like he's the typical cut out board of a politician.
He says what the people wanna hear,
you don't know who he really is as a human being.
And she nailed it, I mean, Donald Trump was a businessman,
but just said, you know what, I'm gonna come in,
I'm gonna shake, shut up.
And he did.
I don't think Ted Cruz is likable,
but I think he's a dog.
Like, I don't think he's, you know, like,
I always go back to
if we weren't high school, right?
To see who the person was in high school.
Okay.
So if you go to high school with this guy, you kind of know who he was.
Okay.
If I go to high school with you, I kind of know who you were.
You go to high school with Ted.
You know who he was.
Uh-huh.
You know who Ted was.
Yeah.
Who was Ted Cruz in high school?
Ted probably on the debate team.
On the debate.
He definitely wasn't taking on.
He picked on. He was definitely very team. He definitely was taking a picture.
It was definitely very comfortable face.
He got a wedgie.
Oh, we 100% someone in the way.
He's probably guy that was so condescending, making people.
You know who he is?
Ted Cruz, a movie character.
You ready?
I'm gonna give it to you and you're gonna go there.
Ready?
Ready?
Goodwill hunting.
How about them apples? He's that guy. Oh, wow. Really? Do you know which guy I'm gonna give it to you and you're gonna go there ready ready good will hunting how about them apples?
He's that guy. Oh wow really?
Do you know which guy I'm talking about? Oh
He's gonna come in here and you recite things that you read online and that bone bone
That's yeah, he is that smart and he wants to make you look like a moron. Yeah, but guess what?
He is still a dog 100% he is still a dog, but politician throwing through through and through. I also understand what, no, I don't think so.
You don't think so?
No, I think politician through and through to me is somebody that, I get what she's saying.
There's a difference between a statesman and a politician.
There's still a few of them around.
You don't have to like them.
There's still a few of them around.
There's some of them that will sell their soul just to have their career in all would you say right now if you had to say politician, that's the person.
That's the McConnell's a politician.
That's the McConnell's a politician. I think there's a lot of mouth over it. I think he's a politician.
Schumer's a politician. Pelosi's a politician. The problem with this world is the longer you're in
this world, the more you start being one, you don't even know it.
That's simple.
Yeah.
Look, if you and I lived in a house, okay, and in this house, we're living with 20 different
people, you and I are 22 years old, okay.
We're expected to live in this house for six months.
It's on the beach, kay, 10 girls, 10 guys.
Oh wow.
It's a beautiful house, party house, house. Jersey short time drinks on the house.
Everything on the house. If 19 of the guys in this house are snorting, they're doing
the roll and they're doing everything. How long until you are tempted to join the club?
10 30 at night. The point is there's power and influence of course the longer you're in the swamp you eventually
They call the swamp because yeah, which is why term limits should be a number one priority
Yeah, you just see that guy give a speech
He was at the podium and he's like you guys tell me if this is the NBA or the NFL players you ever seen this
Speed oh, yeah, he goes all right guys give him to an audience.'s like, you tell me which sport you think this is the NBA or the NFL. He's
like 32 DUIs or else multiple conviction.
54 seconds. Go back to them. Play it. Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, this is a great
I know what you're talking about. Watch this. Oh, this is, oh, okay, I got, I'm
I'm not seeing this. This is kind of validates. Is it in B a or NFL? Elizabeth, you
ever seen this? Go back to security.
Six have been accused of sp-
By the way, I want you to guess before we reveals it, whether you think it's the NBA
or NFL he's done.
Okay.
And he said that.
What's his name?
What's his name?
NBA or NFL?
36 have been accused of spousal abuse.
Seven have been arrested for fraud, 19 have been accused of writing bad checks,
117 of directly or indirectly,
been bankrupted at least two businesses,
three have done time for assault,
71, a repeat 71, cannot get a credit card
due to their bad credit.
14 have been arrested on drug-related charges,
eight have been arrested for shoplifting. 21 currently are defendants in lawsuits and 84 have
been arrested for drunk driving in the last year. How many of you think NBA? How
many of you think NFL? What's your name? What do you think? It's the NBA, they're
NFL. You're gonna say like United States Congress. Yeah. Yeah.
The answer is either she gets the 435 members of the United States Congress. Yeah.
Wow. There you go.
Proving your point. Yeah.
Anyway, Congress, Congress approval ratings actually just increased 5% over the last year
to a whopping 23% approval. We're at 75% disapproval.
23% approval. We're at 75% disapproval.
Not great numbers. No.
Their Q score.
What would it take to do terminates?
I mean, because the people that are in charge of saying
the people that are voting for the term,
don't you feel like that?
I mean, that I agree with you 100%.
Like, when you see somebody like Joe Biden obviously
is the worst one, but Nancy Pelosi actually speak.
I'm like, you won't talk about embarrassed.
I'm like, how?
You're all the same, though.
You can chuck Grassley's 117 years old.
Okay, I know.
No, he died.
I thought he'd done what he meant.
The beginning burning his ass out there,
just coming in and voting.
He's a hologram.
You got Diane Feinstein, 98 years old.
I mean, maybe that's generous.
She might be 198.
Yeah, she's scared.
You got McConnell, you got Pelosi, you got Schumer. They're 80 plus years old running the country.
Wait, Mitch McConnell's not an alien. Then I don't. Yeah. I don't know. age is the problem.
Or just being in that Jersey Shorehouse too long. Like if you start young, you're still done.
You should be out by 40. I'm here. If you, you know, if you're 89, you got an 84, that's fine.
At least that Jersey Shore House would be much better.
Oh, yeah, got snookkey out there.
You guys want to do you want to play bingo?
You know, like, I don't know what you're doing all the fight.
You know, but anyway, so I don't know, I'll listen,
but I give you a little pushback right here.
Okay, bring it.
My grandma's 92 years old, okay?
Yeah.
I love my grandma to death.
Yeah.
Okay, I don't want her running the country at this point
Pat's dad is one of the wisest men I know
Gabriel beddabins. He's listening right now. I like
Putsty's down. He's your number one family. I love I love him. I love him.
Yeah, it's my brother's name. Okay, yeah, manch
manch, liberal pit punch
How old is pop on now turn 81 last week. Okay, and I mean this in serious way. I don't want him running the
country. I want his son running the country. Young, healthy, vibrant, dedicated. I want
Gabriel being the consortist. I agree on that. I was just saying the age is not the issue.
It's how long they've been living. Yeah, so you think it's both. So you're saying you
want the eyes on it. I think it's the 80s and 90s and 100 Euros that are running the country, so you want Hunter Biden to run the country. I don't
I don't have any game in the white house got it. Okay. No, I don't know what he's saying is he wants the
Santas out of wants the Santas or Newsom even after the UFC fight when you said you
said you want some Trump to hear to hear that was really cool when he walked out. So
I'm not gonna lie. That was kind of dope. Yeah, it was it was a moment.
You felt and I didn't see him coming.
You felt by the way, surprising events.
Something very surprising happened,
which I'm sure a lot of people can be shocked with.
Mike Pence was boot at the NRA.
What?
Yeah, he was.
I can't.
It was a home state.
Yeah, it was in his home state.
And he and Trump got a two minute standing ovation
at the event.
In his speech, first speech,
and speech and speech, and speech, and died in on felon charges.
New York Trump promised to remain a loyal friend
and fearless champion of the country's largest gun rights
lobbying group.
As he seeks to be a party's nominee for 2024 presidential
election, he appeared to acknowledge the crowd's
frosty response to Pence.
His former running mate, the NRA, event was attended by several Republican hopefuls, including Florida Governor
Ron DeSantis and former United Nations and Mass at Eniqui Haley highlighting
how the NRA's endorsement remains powerful and highly coveted amongst Republicans.
How important is the NRA endorsement, by the way?
It's big. It's very important. I think that's why ironically, your boy,
DeSantis, put out his anti-Trump.
Your boy.
Your boy.
His anti-Trump, I want to say the same day,
saying Trump was bad on the second amendment.
Because I mean, NRA guns, like that's a lot bigger
than people realize, yeah.
That's pretty wild.
You know how you think about NRA right now?
If somebody's member of NRA, it's kind of like,
oh my God, did you know? Yeah. He's part of the NRA. How could you be part member of NRA, it's kind of like, oh my God, did you know?
Yeah.
He's part of the NRA.
How could you be part of the NRA?
And John F. Kennedy was a proud card carrying member
of the NRA.
It was a very normal thing back in the days,
both the Dems and the Republicans wanted the endorsement,
not with just on the right when it comes onto this,
but if you were to say Mike Pence,
where will he peak?
Okay, one, let's say he runs, okay.
How, like what percent do you think is gonna be to speak?
Like you know, you remember Herman Cain,
went all the way up, I think he had 18% at one point,
knew it went to 23% or Sanders got to 20, 21%, you know.
So Ross Prog got to 19 or 20%,
but what do you think pens is gonna go to?
I'll give you I'll give you two answers here
Number one, I think you know high single digits. Maybe it's you know seven eight nine percent at best right?
It's right now it's two percent
But we all know let me tell you who I think Mike Pence is gonna be
You know when it's
You know it's it's NBA season right now.
And you know, like let's say, you know, the Dallas Mavericks need to win their final game
in order to make the playoffs.
And they're playing against the Houston Rockets.
And Houston's been long out of the playoffs.
They got no chance.
But they want to beat the shit out of Dallas.
Yeah.
Okay.
Or it's like, the Miami dolphins are not making the playoffs.
They're playing the Patriots.
And all they want to do is be a spoiler.
And they don't care, their season's done,
they know that they're not winning,
but they have their sights on winning that last game
of the season, why to ruin the Patriot season,
to ruin Dallas Maverick season,
we just saw Dallas get eliminated from the playoffs.
I don't think we understand the vendetta
that Mike Pence has against Donald Trump. I don't think we understand the vendetta that Mike Pence has against Donald Trump.
I don't think we're gonna fully realize that
until it gets so ugly on that debate stage with Trump,
with the Santas, with Pence, possibly with Chris Christie.
We know Nikki, hey, you'll be there, Tim Scott.
We're gonna see Mike Pence on stage saying,
I was his vice president.
He endangered my life and my family.
He is unfit to be president.
And I guess, if you don't think that's gonna,
he's gonna do it.
Of course he is.
And I still think that Trump will get the nomination.
Of course.
But it's gonna, but what may happen,
this is just my opinion, tear it down all you want,
is that it's gonna get so ugly and ugly and ugly,
that there's gonna be a wounded candidate
coming into the general election
and sleepy Ash Joe Biden is just gonna sleepwalk
potentially into the presidency
because it's gonna be so much fighting
on the Republican side of things.
Oh, yeah, that's my opinion.
But when you see people like the Pence is like,
you know, you have, the hell would that 2%,
you have zero chance of touching Trump,
let alone the San Thins. So I think all those people on that stage are either You have zero chance of touching Trump, let alone the sentence.
So I think all those people on that stage
are either put there strategically just like you said,
to make them look like shit so that the left even
is gonna learn more stuff about them
to give them talking more to talk shit.
You know you're losing that race,
but Trump is, Trump is number one right now,
the same number two as he's not wearing a hat.
Nobody's touching,
like so those people,
is it just for their resume pat?
Like I ran for president in 2024.
It's a lost battle before you even go in.
Like, what are you doing?
You know what I mean?
Why are you announcing?
For what?
Listen, if you've gone in that world,
of the world of politics,
and you're gonna plan on writing a book or legacy kids,
you have to have your Wikipedia say,
former 2024 presidential candidate.
Okay, got you.
Like if I was any one of you that are born here,
at one point, you have to figure out a way to
run for president and to say Vincent O'Shauna
at 2032 presidential candidate,
former presidential candidate.
Can I get it for 2021?
Can we do it for this one?
I don't know if we can do it.
What?
Let's do it.
But I think that's a part of it.
The other part of it as well is a lot of these guys run
because they get a job afterwards.
So there's a job that you're fighting for.
Remember when Trump won, the day he won,
they're like, well, typically, you know, you know, they take a week off or a month off or they don't do anything.
The guy was in the office the next day. I love it. And he was interviewing Romney that walked into the office. I don't know if you remember what Romney walked into the subject.
Yeah.
He was Romney doing it. Everybody's just meeting, meeting, meeting, meeting, because this is like, hey, do you want a job? Let's talk about it.
Do you want this job? Let's talk about it. I'll give you
this job. Well, if I give you this job, are you going to, so that's kind of like
the next part. So, you know, I know, I know by a person sleeping 90% of people are
running for a job. They're not running to be president. Got you. They're running
for a job. What job would Mike Pence be running for at this point? Though he's
already been president. I've been governor. It's easy to take shots at Mike
Pence. But it's same people that liked Trump forget that he played
a very important role at that time
because he brought in the side of where he was the Indiana.
I want to say, you know, conservative, safe.
And some people that were like,
man, I'm a little worried about him.
He brought more safety in.
Like, you know, when I started an insurance company,
I had a reputation of being very competitive, you know, loud, you know, doing my thing and I upset a lot of
different people. I brought certain people in that got those that were worried about
coming over to us to say, okay, that guy's there, they're going to be fine. That guy's
there, I feel safer. So it's a strategic hire that you have. So you can take shots at
them all you want. The guy was a hero for a lot of Trump fans back in 2015
Yeah, I think he played his part. It's like a player you got that you forget Ray Allen hit the shot you got a championship
Yes, just give him the credit as hate Ray Allen as much as you want today
I get it. Yeah, but the guy still hit the shot got you chips
You could make the case that he got Trump elected because he won over the Christian event. He was very important
I think he was very important. What I don't like now is that sometimes,
this is what happens is, okay, who's more important?
Pencil or Trump to get into the White House?
Who's more important?
Trump, who's the bigger driver to get into the White House?
Not even a conversation.
He's a percentage of them when they won in 2016.
What percentage of the success?
Oh, in 2016?
What percentage of the credit of Trump winning was 2016? What percentage of the credit of Trump winning was Trump?
What percentage of the credit of Trump going
to the White House was pens?
25%.
No way, guys.
What are you talking about?
That's 90, 10.
It's 99 to one.
Really?
Yeah, because you didn't win the,
what do you call it, the primary,
by, you know, you won it,
because it's like, this is the guy, right?
And then you announce who it is.
So it's 99 him, it's one him.
Here's a problem.
You know, if you wrote on someone's co-tail
and you go up and you flip, it's a little bit,
that's what his DNA is today.
That's his reputation today.
You know, and by the way, Democrats love him,
CNN loves him, MSNBC loves him.
He's a great tool, by the way,
expect him to be on TV, 60 minutes, CBS, ABC,
all of this stuff for 16 straight months every day.
And then he's gonna get a $10 million book deal,
$5 million book deal.
And then he's gonna be the guy that's gonna have a consultant,
you're gonna have a million dollar a year job
with CNN MSNBC to do talking.
That's what he's gonna be doing.
So, but it is what it is.
He played, it's like Scotty Pippen,
I was watching video today about how Scotty Pippen was,
the guy in and after the last dance,
there was a big follow-on between the two of them.
Cause Scotty then came out and he wrote a book and he said, what?
He says, what do you want to be remembered as?
I want to be remembered as a greatest of all time.
Dude, come on, bro.
That's what he wants to say.
Scottie said, I want to be remembered.
Have you seen this interview?
It's got to be remembered as a solution.
When Robin suddenly thinks he's Batman.
Yes.
You're going to be a better Robin being the best Robin you can be versus you all of a
sudden thinking, you know, anyways, this just took me to a complete.
The man's question.
Well, yeah, well, it's delusional.
You actually think you said that CNN, you know, these MSNBCs, they love Pence now.
You actually think they love him.
I think they look at him as a useful idiot.
Well, but that's, you still love a useful idiot.
That's worse.
Wrong way to use that.
They're like, oh, Trump's boot-licking VP is now anti-Trump.
It's Saturday night.
11 o'clock.
Yeah.
Three people aren't texting you back.
One of the girls does.
You love her.
I'm joking.
That's you tonight.
11 o'clock.
Three people aren't texting you back.
One of the girls does.
You love her.
I don't know.