PBD Podcast - EMERGENCY Podcast | First GOP Presidential Debate Recap

Starting point is 00:00:00 Let's go. I don't know this life meant for me. Yeah, why would you pay it on to life when we got bet David value came in giving values contagious. We're the entrepreneurs. We can't no value that hate it. I didn't run home. He looked what I've become. I'm the I'm the one. Okay, so the podcast many have been asking for waiting for.

Starting point is 00:00:42 We would have liked to have done it last night at eleven o'clock or midnight but uh... we were at the debate and time is not here with us because time's not feeling well but times got such great insight he wanted to share on what happened but we will miss him in spirit what an experience yesterday was being at the gop debate amazing the craziness watching everybody uh... getting a chance to spend time with Chris rum Rumble, Don Jr., Kimberly, Dave Rubin. There was a bunch of people there, right?

Starting point is 00:01:09 I mean, it was just interesting seeing the whole dynamic, the competition, the sizing up against each other. The stage kinda looks like what we had at MGM Grand Arena where everybody was debating each other. It was great, but gang, before we go into the topics, there's a question I wanna ask you guys while you're watching this.

Starting point is 00:01:25 We have a lot of things to go through. We're going to talk about the Tucker Trump podcast. We're going to talk about winners and losers. We're going to talk about who showed up, who didn't, how it was done. We're going to talk about Russia, Putin, Progosh, and what happened there. I know we'll bring that up as well. But Rob, can you run a poll first? I am sincerely curious from bring that up as well. But Rob, can you run a poll first? I am sincerely curious

Starting point is 00:01:45 from everybody that's watching this. I want to ask you a question. What did you watch first last night? Not if you watched both. I want to know which one you watched first. Did you watch Tucker and Trump podcast first on Twitter at 8.55 Eastern Standard Time, or did you watch the Fox GOP debate with Rumble at 9 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, which was five minutes after when Tucker and his camp released it. I actually want to know myself.

Starting point is 00:02:18 So Rob, if you can run that poll and see what your answers are going to be, this will tell us a lot. And I think we'll know fairly quickly within the first five or 10 minutes what it looks like. So if you're watching this, just click and give us your poll on where you're at. And let's see if it's gonna be 50, 50, if it's gonna be 60, 40.

Starting point is 00:02:37 I'm actually sincerely curious, because this tells you the reason why this is so important. Which one did you watch? Did you watch the debate or Tucker and Trump? I ended up watching Stephen Crowder's podcast That's why I just kind of tuned into that Mark hub and he was watching Doing a reaction to Trump. So I ended up watching people watching I was watching but wait a minute

Starting point is 00:03:01 So did you watch the Tucker Trump interview the whole thing? I watched probably the first 20 minutes of it and then I switched over to the debate and then I finished After the JV debate I went back to So you were kind of going back and forth. That's what you were talking about got it So so far we got 2,200 votes and the 2,200 votes tells you 53% tuned into Tucker Trump and 47% tuned into GOP. We'll keep letting this vote and go gang if you're watching this tune in and right now. Just put your vote in because we're curious. Couple of things about this to be thinking about to give a credit to it and then we'll get

Starting point is 00:03:38 into the debate. So regarding the Tucker Trump versus GOP, Obviously, Fox is the former employer of Tucker that fired him. Yes. And Tucker goes on his own. So obviously, they're not good. Obviously, Trump isn't good with Fox the last 12 months because Fox has gone team.

Starting point is 00:04:00 The Santa's someone would say. It's any team but... Trump. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. There it is right there. Now, watch this. There's a third ally there. You got a throw and it's a guy that runs a company called X and that third ally is Elon Musk. The interesting with Elon Musk is that's kind of weird. Is Elon is not necessarily a Trump guy. Not at all.

Starting point is 00:04:23 Elon originally was a DeSantis guy that they hosted the first, what do you call it? It was first announced. Spaces with DeSantis was broken. And then they did it again, and he had to switch to David Sax's account instead of his. And then recently, just a couple of days ago, Rob, if you can find this Ilan comments in a tweet about Vivek,

Starting point is 00:04:42 saying this is a formidable candidate. So he kind of went off of DeS centis and he went on Vivek. Just yesterday, we're talking 24, 48 hours. So that's kind of an interesting shift he's making. And then his mentor, a guy that he goes to for advice, Larry Ellison, Larry Ellison just a few days ago gave 20 million to Tim Scott. So far, so far what's happening is, they're showing it's anything but Trump from

Starting point is 00:05:11 Elon and his peers, but Tucker is pro Trump and it's being done on X and Tucker and his team, you know, they go five minutes live before. Gangster move. Yes, before not ESPN, before Fox shows the debate. How much you think going five minutes before got them to get more people watching them first because the moments you start watching it, you're hooked, you forgot about the GOP debate and you got stuck with watching Tucker. I thought it was a very good point you made Rob earlier with this angle and the timing

Starting point is 00:05:43 that was very impressive. How much you think that played in people watching Tucker and Trump first? Well, I can tell you for me, that's exactly what I did. I watched the entire Tucker and then switched over at about 942 and then Fox was really smart because what they did is they timed it out

Starting point is 00:05:57 so that when Tucker and Trump ended, they went to commercial break and what did they come back with? The question of would you stand by the president if he is indicted? Yeah, but we're so why do we were there? So we never option but I saw people inside all inside the arena pat like this watching watching watching watching on their phones phones phones and then and then our started people they took out a lot of pop I'm gonna say 30 40% the people were just like that. We're not gonna watch Fox and we're gonna go let me tell you There's certain candidates on that stage. I mean everyone for that matter, but certainly some of the people were just like, nah. We're not gonna watch Fox and we're gonna go. Let me tell you, there are certain candidates

Starting point is 00:06:25 on that stage. I mean, everyone for that matter, but certainly some of the people at the end, the ace of Hutchinson's of the world, even my guy Doug Burgham and whoever, you should be thanking God that Trump and sucking all the oxygen out of the room did not show up to that debate.

Starting point is 00:06:41 And if he was, none of those people that had time talking, I don't give a shit. It's Aida Hutchinson, get your ass out of here. He's like, looks like Mike Pence is dead. You're lucky we even know his name today. Because if Trump was on that stage, none of those people would be talking about them. Maybe Vivek a little bit.

Starting point is 00:06:56 And it'd be interesting to see eventually when Vivek and Trump share a stage, you can't do the Trump ass kissing in front of Trump when he's just gonna basically like, or Vivek, Vivek they have a swampy, he's just from the swamp creature. Like let's see how that plays out. But these guys should all be thinking they're lucky stars that Trump didn't show up and just dominate all those people last night. But that's what what a hat.

Starting point is 00:07:17 And let's be honest, which I don't think I'd be, I'd ever be able to do what they did. You're up there. You already know you have all technically lost. You're all fighting for the number two spot, right? That's all that wasn't in position, whatever. All that happened in position or whatever. And I get the politics side of it. But that wasn't auditioned for the vice president

Starting point is 00:07:37 in that moment when he was like, all right, who's cool with Trump? And in fact, was like, I'm in. Rob, Rob, what's in, we're gonna go through a lot of these clips Both the Trump and Tucker one as well as the debate Rob if you can tell us the poll what did the poll end up? We got a few thousand votes. I'm curious in a word. We're at right now with the poll 4600 votes 53% watch the Tucker Trump 47% watch the Fox GOP and it doesn't look like it's changing. I think that's the lead. So by the way

Starting point is 00:08:01 And it doesn't look like it's changing. I think that's the lead. So by the way, kind of pretty smooth, which means the next debate will be September 27th at what he called Reagan Library. Yes, Reagan Library, which should be an interesting one to either attend or we'll do it here.

Starting point is 00:08:14 We'll do live podcasts outside of Reagan Library. I don't know what we got two minutes away from where I used to live. Been there many times. So, but when you look at this, so what's Tucker gonna do September 27th? Because Trump's probably gonna be on stage. So you gotta think about who Tucker's gonna be having

Starting point is 00:08:30 September 27th. I got a whole idea of what I think is going on with Tucker, Trump and Elon. We were on a flight back with one of our guys that was on the flight back right now. We just jumped on a flight. We're talking about what's going on here. I have a speculation on what I think is going on with

Starting point is 00:08:43 Tucker, Trump and Elon. I'll say it right now until we can go into some of the other topics. You see what's going on right now is alliances are being built. Okay, just like in social media, when you're creating content, or just like when you're building a real estate business, or an insurance business, or you're creating a running for office, or you wanna go make movies, you'll see alliances.

Starting point is 00:09:09 Adam Sandler has a whole crew of alliances, him, Rob Schneider, how many times will they keep doing movies over and over and over and over again? Bradley Cooper and Jennifer Lawrence. First they do that one dance, then still or line again, then this, then the next one. It's okay. So the exact.

Starting point is 00:09:26 And this one will send back all those. These are alliance. By the way, it's brilliant to build these alliance. It's very, very smart because strength in numbers, it's the reason why Lebron in his legacy, Michael forever will be known as he had the best team. Kobe will be known as he had the best team as this era. Lebron will never be known as having the best team because it was Golden State that built the dynasty

Starting point is 00:09:47 because it was strength in numbers. Okay. So on the debate, when there was a break, I was watching the break more than I was watching the debate because I was watching to see during the break who was going and talking to who. It was very interesting dynamics. I think there's an interesting alliance being built

Starting point is 00:10:02 with Tucker Trump and Elon Musk. And let me kind of share with you. I've talked about this before on camera, off camera, but I'll give you more and more what's going on today. When I think about Tucker, I'm seeing, if I'm, by the way, I'm 20% where I'm at with this, I'm purely speculating, but I'm, it's a strong 20% that I think I'm right, but 80% chance I'm wrong, okay? Here's what I think's going on. I think Tucker, I don't think he cares to be a billionaire. I don't think he cares to be Robert Murdock.

Starting point is 00:10:31 I don't think he cares to be, you know, Roger Ailes, not the dirty side, but I'm talking about from the side of where he's a king builder. I don't think he's a king maker. I think he's a king. That's how he views himself. I don't think he wants to go out there and be rushed limbaugh. I don't think he's trying to break the record of being better than, you know, more viewers

Starting point is 00:10:49 than all these other guys. Here's what I think is going on. And there's wisdom in what he's doing, if this is what he's doing. Netanyahu, Zelensky, Churchill were all journalists before. They got a lot of eyeballs and they did it at a time without social media. And then when they ran, they won. As a linsky had social media, but the other two didn't have social media when they won.

Starting point is 00:11:10 I think what he's doing is, the Santas could have done the same thing, but the Santas was smart. They didn't make a wise move. If the Santas would have gone and would have said, you know what, I'm gonna stay governor of Florida. Trump's gonna do what Trump's gonna do. And I'm gonna gain the mega vote because I'm gonna support him. Then I'm gonna stay governor Florida. Trump's gonna do what Trump's gonna do. And I'm gonna gain the mega vote

Starting point is 00:11:26 because I'm gonna support him. Then I'm gonna run in 2028 and Trump's gonna come and endorse me and all the magas are gonna follow me as voters. The tough part would mega voters, they're not gonna flip. You know how most people they'll flip and they'll go from one person to another camp and they'll be like, as long as it's blue,

Starting point is 00:11:39 as magas not like that. Magas like, you disrespect the Trump, I'm done with you. It's a very loyal. What about what do you like it or not? You can bitch about it all. You want you have to be strategic. Yeah. I think Tucker sees this and he's saying, huh, who are the two most powerful people I should align myself with? Musk, social media, politics, Trump. What if I win both of them over? They don't necessarily like each other. The saying, what do you call a must doesn't go out there saying,

Starting point is 00:12:10 I'm gonna vote for Trump. Okay. And I don't know how much Trump trusts Elon, but Tucker's the wisdom one in the middle. He says, I'm gonna sit here every video, I don't know how much money's making off Twitter, but you know what, sometimes work more than money make on Twitter, or ret know what, sometimes work more than money

Starting point is 00:12:25 make on Twitter or retweet from Elon Musk, okay? So you get every video of your Elon Musk retweets and puts interesting, and then all of a sudden gives you 100 million views because of its followership, 100 million fit. What does that work to you? All the money in the world. So watch this, let me fast forward to 2026.

Starting point is 00:12:41 2027, prediction time, okay? Next thing you know, Trump, let's you say, he thinks Trump's gonna win office. Let's just say whether he does or not, Trump wins, Trump loses, it doesn't matter to Tucker because Tucker wins whether Trump wins or loses because he's shown loyalty to who to Trump. Trump big time.

Starting point is 00:12:59 And he's winning over Tucker, a winning over Elon. So here's a question, how many followers does Tucker have right now on Twitter? Can you go look at how many followers Tucker's a question. How many followers does Tucker have right now on Twitter? Can you go look at how many followers Tucker has on Twitter? How many followers does Tucker have on Twitter? Go look up to 9.7 million. When he went to Twitter, I think he was at six million, five and a half million, six million.

Starting point is 00:13:15 So he's already gained about four million followers. I'm out of a go on social blade, go on social blade and type in Tucker Carlson. Go to Twitter first, go to Twitter, we have right, go to Twitter, go to Twitter and type in Tucker Carlson. Go to Twitter first, go to Twitter, we have a right, to go to Twitter, go to Twitter, and type in Tucker Carlson. And they gotta be together, no, they gotta be together, they gotta go, Tucker Carlson, watch this. Go up and see how his followership on a day-to-day day,

Starting point is 00:13:34 oh shit, okay, there you go. Zoom in, look at that retweet yesterday with Trump how many followers they got on one day. 210,000 followers on one day. So what is that word to you to get that kind of followership on a daily basis? There is not a price tag on this, so let's play game. How many followers do you think Tucker is gonna have by end of 2026? If it goes at the space, so for the next two years, three years, Elon retweets every one of

Starting point is 00:14:02 his videos. He gets these eyeballs. He gets the biggest names in the world to interview. How many followers do you think Elon will have on Twitter by the beginning of 2027, January of 2027? Tucker Carlson? Tucker Carlson, not Elon. Tucker. Is it fair to say you'll be at 50 million?

Starting point is 00:14:19 Give it 50 now? 9.7 million. No, not 10. Let's say 10. I say 50 more, maybe more. Okay. Let's say it's 25. Okay. Let's say 25 to 50 million. Okay. Whatever the number is, 25 low, 50 million high. If you're in that range, you're automatically one of them was followed influential people in America, in the world. In the world. And the world is retweeting you. Musk. Now you announce,

Starting point is 00:14:43 luck, rumor has it, you know, Tucker's thinking about running. No, I'm not going to be running. This is not what I want to do. America needs me. I'll run Maga's loyal to him. Elon's loyal to him, walking the park. Now Elon's got an ally in the White House for eight years. If can you visually see that becoming a reality? By the way, you're 20% did I'm at like 90% of that. Like the way that you just spelled it out.

Starting point is 00:15:08 We said I have the fluff. The way that you just spelled it out right there, it's so funny because we started off this conversation with the enemy and my enemy as my friend. These two are in alignment at this point. They are congruent at this point. Trump and Tucker, it was not so long ago. Matter of fact, it was January 4th of 2021

Starting point is 00:15:24 when the leaked text of Tucker came out. This was right before January 6th, the day of infamy, right? He said, I'm fed up with Trump, all right? This is obviously before the Dominion lawsuit. He says, quote unquote, I'm done with Trump. We are very close to for being able to ignore him speaking of Trump on most nights.

Starting point is 00:15:44 I can't, I truly can't wait. I hate him passionately. I can't handle much more of him. This is your friend, your boy, Tucker Carlson, talking about Trump. It's funny how things change over time. You know how Joe Rogan was just voting for Bernie. Now he's an alt-right guy. It's like things happen certainly during COVID

Starting point is 00:16:06 so quickly, so vehemently. Things change so fast that all of a sudden that you're in full-on alignment. Now think about what's happened with Trump and Tucker over the last 12 months. The Murdoch's have come out and basically said, we're done with Trump. I mean, they've explicitly pretty much done that, right?

Starting point is 00:16:23 You know, after Roger Ailes died, they were just like, all right, gloves off explicitly pretty much done that, right? You know, after Roger Ailes died, they were just like, all right, gloves off were done. And then they fired Tucker. After the Dominion lawsuit, there's some allegations that they needed a head to roll. He was the top head. So now, you have Tucker, who's a man on an island,

Starting point is 00:16:42 he can do whatever he wants. There's another good friend of mine that extended a hundred million dollar offer to him. He didn't need that money, but we don't need to go there. Yeah. Allegedly his wife's got money too. He's in here to him. He's in here to shoot a little money.

Starting point is 00:16:55 You got Trump, and I just kind of put it all in there. It's setting himself up perfectly for 2028. Let's say Trump wins or even loses, whatever it is. Who arguably would be the next man up? Not Don Jr. Not DeSantis. DeSanctimonias. It wasn't loyal.

Starting point is 00:17:15 Vivek is an absolute beast. Absolute beast. I think if you ran as a Democrat, that guy would be the next Obama. It's very hard to get a brown skinny Hindu kid elected when you got the evangelical base on the right. I've said that a million times. I think he's an absolute beast that's just gonna be tough.

Starting point is 00:17:33 I think Tucker will slide right in, Pat, and do exactly what you said. I'm shocked that you would think it's only 20%. Because the way that you outlined it, dude, I very highly likelihood that. What a what a move though. Yeah, what a move though. Yeah. Right. What a move because, you know, uh, uh, what do they say when LeBron team that would wait and bash? What did they call

Starting point is 00:17:50 that? They call the big three. This is this is the ultimate. Oh my god. This is the ultimate three. Okay. Ultimate. Elon Trump and Tucker. Holy freaking moly. Elon Tucker and Trump I can we're in by the way without Elon necessarily supporting a Trump because I think in Elon's mind again, you know, when you going up against a opponent or somebody you're trying to study you want to know motives right you want to know motives you want to see what they're going to be doing. I think Elon listen, if he wants to go compete with his enemies, who are his enemies? Google, Facebook, Amazon, anybody else that's going to be in his, you know, in his way of

Starting point is 00:18:34 wanting to build Jeff Bezos. Jeff Bezos. Jeff Bezos, some of these guys. Blue Origin. Can you imagine if he helps Tucker get in there in five years and then Tucker's on his team for eight years? I mean, listen. And you're officially like SpaceX, like, like,

Starting point is 00:18:48 like, a domino battery machines to put worldwide the deals with other countries, you're not thinking about, you know, 10, 20 years, he's not thinking everybody's thinking one year, short time, he's not thinking 20 years. He needs in hell, you know, anyways, so I think, so if we pick our winners, yeah, and don't forget Biden and Elon Musk have zero relationships. Yeah, zero relationships. I don't even know if he's even alive.

Starting point is 00:19:10 But, Pat, does that, okay, does that, were you at all, that type of alliance? Let's say Tucker, Tucker's motive is what? Tucker really cares about the country, because I don't care what you, like Elon Musk, what is his, what would you think his motive? I don't have any, I don't, I'm not saying this based on the negative or positive.

Starting point is 00:19:28 Okay. The message on what I'm giving is the following. In life, it's your job to build stronger alliances, either contribute up or lift bottom up. So you're either pushing or pulling, okay? In some situations, I'm a push. In some situations, I'm a pull, okay? For example, on the podcast said, maybe I'm a pull, I'm playing the I'm a push. In some situations I'm a pull. Okay, for example, on the podcast said,

Starting point is 00:19:47 maybe I'm a pull, I'm playing the role of a pull. But in other situations with people that I'm given advice to or counsel to behind closed doors that, you know, maybe it's not public information, I'm playing a push. And I'll say, I would do this or I would do that. Your job is to be a great flag carrier up and you have to be a supporter down.

Starting point is 00:20:07 Okay. That's the ultimate job what you got to do. What does this thing which we tend to push? Okay. So for example, a flag, like for example, if I'm part of, you know, like some people don't want to represent a team, they will never, they'll only represent who themselves. Look, it's dumb. You know why it's dumb?

Starting point is 00:20:27 Because you have to do all the legwork. You have to do all the, it's all on you. You screw up, it's on you. Go be a solo person. See if you do it better solo. Some of it, well, Taco went solo. No, he did not. Trust me, Taco's not solo.

Starting point is 00:20:40 Taco made a deal with Elon to get retweets on every video he puts up. That's not solo. Taco winning became Elon's flag carrier is what Tucker did. No, you think Charlie Kirk is solo? No, he's a flag carrier and push pull. You can go up and talk about any of the stuff that are bitter doing it all by themselves. They're eventually going to have a wall they hit.

Starting point is 00:21:02 You're going to have a wall and then they're gonna say to follow in lines. You ready for the lines? I'm being shadow bent. No, you're not. I'm being, you know, I think I'm being this. No, you're not. You're just not. You're just solo.

Starting point is 00:21:14 And you don't have anybody that has your back. Guess what? When somebody went after Joe Rogan, guess who's got his back? Dana White, Spotify. Joe was not running by himself. Guess who's got Dana's back when it was run by himself? Trump, Trump got him a place to go fight.

Starting point is 00:21:28 This thing about wanting to be solo is amateurish and it just means you have massive, massive, massive ego. And you think you don't need anybody. It's pathetic to be, and by the way, we've all been there before, but to each his own, when it comes onto competition of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you,

Starting point is 00:21:52 I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, I'm not a fan of you, Do you have your winners and losers? I do. You want to go first with your winners and losers, and I'll give mine. You want to go first or you want me to go first? I'll go first.

Starting point is 00:22:06 My winners and losers. I think, anytime you do, in by the way, this was our prediction that we made. If you want to take a look at this, this was the prediction pre-debate. So we gave this to you guys. Rob, you got this from us when yesterday or some like that, and you guys kind of put it together.

Starting point is 00:22:19 So winners, I thought Vivek was going to be the winner. I thought Pence was going to be the loser, then shots at Trump, Christie, he did that, shots at Biden. You have what he call it, the Santis. Most surprising, Tim Scott. I don't think Tim Scott was the most surprising. I thought it was Haley by a mile. A winner, I don't know who you had there, Adam.

Starting point is 00:22:40 That's North Dakota's daughter, right? I had a undog and I was absolutely wrong. I thought that Doug Bergam, he broke his foot. This guy got crossed over. He broke his foot. He broke his ankle and he's torn Achilles. You're playing basketball. Some staffer crossed him up.

Starting point is 00:22:53 He's a 60 year old man. He was Achilles injury. I actually liked the line he said. I like how he opened it up. He kind of took a shot at himself. I thought it was funny. He said go out there and break a leg. He's like, I did.

Starting point is 00:23:03 I'm mad y'all. But I thought he was going to come out strong out there and break a leg. He said, I did, I did. I'm mad y'all. But I thought he was gonna come out strong because I think he's actually a businessman, entrepreneur, also a governor. I thought that he was gonna do his thing. He did. By the way, just so you know, what everybody said afterwards,

Starting point is 00:23:14 just so you know, I had no idea he was until you kind of said who he was. He's actually good. Everybody said, if somebody else said what he was saying, it would have been received better, but he didn't know how to deliver his message better. So he had good policy.

Starting point is 00:23:27 He doesn't have that oomph. Yeah, so let me just go through my winners and losers. Here's what I got. Number one, I think one of the biggest winners is who we nobody talked about, which is a moderator. I thought the moderator's crushed it, because nobody bitched about them. There was literally nothing said about the moderators.

Starting point is 00:23:45 Think about the town hall trumped it with that one girl that used to be one of Parker's kids. Everybody trashed her. Guess what? If, you know, in this sense, I thought Brett Bear actually did a very, he looked at the audience, was very pleasant. He didn't look angry, like Andrew Sokolman,

Starting point is 00:24:00 we'll be keep it down. Keep it down. He was kind of like, hey, can you guys please so we can talk more policies and Martha McCallum was. I thought they were great. I thought they were great. Even the funny moment with Chris Christie about aliens. She laughed.

Starting point is 00:24:11 I never thought a person from New Jersey. You know me. Why would you ask me about aliens? I thought it was a good moment. Winners Tucker Carlson, one, Trump, one, Vivek, one, Haley won Twitter won streaming won Podcasters won rumble won all of rhanthony won those are my winners who I have losers cable Ace of Hutchinson. I don't think he was gonna be anything anyways Christy

Starting point is 00:24:42 And pretty much everybody else and I put the Santas as neutral, is what I put the Santas ad. We can go through some of the other stuff here in a minute, but who were your winners and losers? I only have one winner for the whole night. Let's hear it. And it was Donald J. Trump. Trump.

Starting point is 00:24:59 Because why was he the winner? Number one, listen, two days from now, nobody's gonna be talking about this JV debate at all, period. The fact that a half our audience was watching Trump and not the debate is also a telltale sign. I also didn't see anybody up there on stage that's going to dismantle Trump in the top position. If anything, I think that his lead is only gonna widen

Starting point is 00:25:21 and widen and we'll see what happens with uh... everything legally speaking whatever's happening in Georgia will see how that affects things but it's clear and clear and clear uh... the mag of odin go anywhere uh... he has a shringle hold over the republican party whether you like it or not uh... he's the guy and de-santis did nothing to stand out thek, you know that I think he's an absolute beast. If he was running as a Democrat, he would be the next president. He just, you know, the Republican evangelical base, Maga is not going to support a brown

Starting point is 00:25:54 Hindu guy. Sorry. But I think he's an absolute beast. And everyone else I think is a loser. I think Mike Pence, you know, he's the only person that lost Twitter followers during this. I think he showed some fight, you know, he's as crack as crack a white as it gets and he's gonna get that evangelical vote. That's great.

Starting point is 00:26:12 He did have one line where he said, I'd put the constitution over Donald Trump. And anytime that you're gonna see Mike Pence on stage with Donald Trump, this next debate, don't underestimate what Mike Pence is going to say on stage to basically torpedo Trump. Now will it work? I don't know, but don't forget that Mike Pence takes the high road, he's going to do

Starting point is 00:26:33 his Christian thing, but he's got a vendetta. Don't forget about that. I think Mike Pence has one outcome. I think Mike Pence only has one outcome. What's that? He's only doing it for his kids and grandkids. This is only for his legacy. He's not convinced he's gonna be the president.

Starting point is 00:26:49 He himself doesn't believe he's gonna be a president. His family doesn't believe he's gonna be a president. He's just trying to protect a legacy of a man who spends his entire life pretty much in public service to say, I did the right thing kids and grandkids. And then from there, he can live the rest of his life as a working for Fox or representing for whoever it is.

Starting point is 00:27:07 And I think it was purely a legacy thing for him. I think you're right. And I actually think that he was a little more amped up than usual. I don't know if that came across. It was about 100% than you. You know, and then again, Trump's the winner. I thought Nikki Haley, you know, did her thing.

Starting point is 00:27:22 She's got zero chance, zero. She's running for VP. You think Nikki Haley is gonna fucking out Trump Trump. One thing was clear. I don't know if you guys saw this. You know, did her thing, she's got zero chance, zero, she's running for VP, you think Nicky Ailey's gonna fucking out Trump Trump? One thing was clear, I don't know if you guys saw this, unless you have that like, I can't look away quality, and you talking some smack, the VEK does it a little bit, even Chris Christie does it a little bit,

Starting point is 00:27:38 he ain't going anywhere though. Dude, that's what we've turned into, these debates have literally turned into, like I need to watch this, it's like, you gotta into, dude. These debates have literally turned into, like, I need to watch this. It's like, you gotta suck all the oxygen out of the room. So Tim Scott, sorry brother, you're done. Have a nice day, you're a swamp creature

Starting point is 00:27:54 who's been in the Senate for decades now, get out of here. Aisa Hutchinson, who's that? Mike Pence's dad, keep it moving, old man. Even my guy Doug Burgham, solid guy, he does not have the eyeball effect. Chris Christie, how have you not lost a fucking pound in 30 years, buddy? How is this possible?

Starting point is 00:28:11 Like, come on dude. That's funny, you know, like people think it's funny. It's actually not funny. No, it's not funny. You don't have control over what you put in your mouth. And instead of hell, you're gonna have control over it. Exactly that. Other temptations.

Starting point is 00:28:23 If you can't manage your weight, you're gonna, like, and I'm not talking bad about big people who have problems around the world, but you can get healthier and better. I don't trust your decision. Not one pound? Not Apple. Like he got bigger.

Starting point is 00:28:39 He got bigger, but we got that on all of a sudden. So I mean, look, at the end of the day, and I mean this, like, genuinely, this was a JV debate. If you don't have Trump, you don't have the heavy the end of the day, and I mean this like genuinely, this was a JV debate, if you don't have Trump, you don't have the heavyweight champion in the world fighting, you know, these guys should all be thankful and lucky, but I think when all is said and done,

Starting point is 00:28:53 you're gonna cut out the six, seven, eight characters, which are Tim Scott, Doug Burgham, Aisa Hutchins and even Chris Christie. Goodbye, see you later, you're gonna be left with the Santis, Vivek, Mike Pence, and Nikki Haley, and Trump. That'll be your final five, Donzo, Trump number one, Vivek, I think we'll overtake the Santis as number two, the Santis number three, you got Mike Pence, you got Nikki Haley just for a little female effect. And that's what you're gonna be looking at in the next major debates, that's the final five.

Starting point is 00:29:20 Vinnie. I think we're all on the same page in that obviously Trump basically won a race won the best Olympic 100 meter dash didn't have to show up. Obviously the winner. We didn't see Rob or HR even made a great, a great point. Zero mega hats in the entire. There was no mega in that place., I know there was Trump supporters. Nobody was rocking the gear. Nobody, you know what I mean? They were all just anti the hell with this.

Starting point is 00:29:50 He's not here, not even there to support. I think, another one, you got a feeling there was not Maga people there. I felt that they were, you know, they were in the crowd, but Pat, no gear, no hats. You can't be that naive. You know, I saw, I saw, I saw. Hand full of people with mag. You're right. It wasn't as much as you think. It wasn't as much. And when they mentioned, I heard, but when they were mentioning Trump had, I got some applause,

Starting point is 00:30:12 but you heard a lot of, they were booing when they were talking about Trump in that place. So, no, I don't disagree with that. But what I'm saying is it wasn't to me. It wasn't zero, zero. So the way they said it, they gave the left side to the Santas. Yeah, big time. They gave the right side to Viva. Viva. And then they gave Haley close to where you were sitting. Right. Well, all the girls, yeah. And then some of the, you know, pens folks and all the other guys were kind of sprinkled all over the place. But, you know,

Starting point is 00:30:36 you can't what what crowd do you think had the biggest crowd there? Who did you feel that had the most? Wow. The loudest was Viva. Like the curls at the energy but the santa's had a lot of people the sand is had a lot but you know I thought the winner was the democrats the department of justice doing their thing trump he's getting indicted today right for a clock and twenty thirty minutes those are the winners bro you know what one the democratic party the department of justice are going after the the main guy pat who is the number one because at the Department of Justice, are going after the main guy, Pat, who is the number one?

Starting point is 00:31:06 Because at the end of the day, Pat, and I've been saying this, not to jump off, everybody, it's Trump, Trump, I'd say, oh, you're a Trump or are you a Trump? It didn't even have to be Trump. It was just, we wanted somebody that was going to go against these assholes. And sorry for my language, the establishment, everybody,

Starting point is 00:31:21 and everybody always likes to say that word, the establishment, he's the only guy. He's the first guy in my generation that was like, you know what? No more swamp, no more this. The hell with China, the hell with these people, America first and what did they do? All this, all that swamp was like, no, no, no, F.U. I made everybody go. Trump, the arrangement syndrome. I do, I never liked Trump when he was on apprentice year five. I never gave a damn. So I started looking Trump when he was on apprentice year five? I never gave a damn. Till I started looking at all the videos of him

Starting point is 00:31:49 on all the shows going, I love America. The shows that would never put him on, lettermen and everything. I love America. All I care about is this country. Why do we care about other countries? Who cares about Ukraine? It's America first.

Starting point is 00:32:00 So obviously he won. The Democrats are kicking ass because they got the Department of Justice on him. The Santas, it was almost as if he won the Democrats are kicking ass because they got the department of justice on him. The Santas, it was almost as if he knew the questions first and he was reading and he knew everything. It was robotic. It was this ingenuous.

Starting point is 00:32:12 You nailed it. The last podcast we had, you said, and I quote, if this is his only chance, he better come out and talk to us. Talk to the people. It was it. It was looking down and blah, blah, blah, blah, and COVID this and he was doing this. And I noticed something about him that a couple of people on Twitter were mentioning, Rob could pull it up. I saw him walking like during the commercial with like a hunch and I looked and he had on high rise boots on.

Starting point is 00:32:38 Oh, he wears boots. I didn't know, but look at that. Can you get on that, Rob? It was, he wears those boots everywhere, but he were them when we met. How short is he? I have no he's a big guy. Well, that's what he's one of those boots. Those were uncomfortable. He looks like he's walking uncomfortable when we when we met him.

Starting point is 00:32:56 He's probably an introduced to other than me and introduced shorter than you. I want to say six foot. Pat six four, but we're in those. I'm saying he's six one six. Like it's five nine. Yeah, no saying he's six one six, like, he's five nine. Yeah, no, he's not. Yes, he is.

Starting point is 00:33:08 He's what? No, he is not five nine. Yeah, yeah, the San this is not five nine. No chance. He's short, but anyway, what Pat, according the internet, you're five four. So, Well, no, no, what I'm saying to you is,

Starting point is 00:33:18 I remember standing next to him, and I remember looking at his shoes. At best, he's five ten. Which five ten is called five ten is good. ten and he's wearing cinch and six inch He was he was taller than me six inch would be six four by the way the cowboy boots just look at this cowboy Boots what's the word boots? No, but but if you want to find the heel the heel the heel of the wheel Yeah, so if you look at cowboy boots, heel what, what do you, what do you, what question do you have?

Starting point is 00:33:47 Three inches, like how many inches? Three inches. He's adding three inches and he was in the middle and he was holding everybody up. Okay. Okay, so if he's five, 10 and he has six points. Yeah, he was up there. You got me wrong.

Starting point is 00:33:58 Yeah, you can't fish me with them high heels. By the way, and the other part that something that will say is, you know, when you wear cowboy boots, the first thing you think about is these from Texas. I don't know it. Like, I've been in Florida for a while. I don't see anywhere here that, you know, it's not a thing.

Starting point is 00:34:13 No. Vernon raised that Florida, no, but he was uncomfortable in the way I'm saying it. And I can get the strategy. You're in the middle. You're standing. I think, again, Christy and Pence, I saw them like you said in between commercials,

Starting point is 00:34:26 hugging, talking, that's an alliance. Those two have the vex awesome pat. I don't like the fact that he opened the speech with the same exact line that Obama used about him. And I'm just a guy with a front of the last name. I kind of listen, I think he's a great speaker. Nikki Haley represented the whole section that I was in, really, really loved it.

Starting point is 00:34:46 I think she stepped up. The guy in the end, Asa Hutchinson. Asa Hutchinson. Asa, whatever. To me, this, he looks like Biden's second class. They look like they're a cousin. That's the, we're looking at a picture right there. Dude, that is insane.

Starting point is 00:35:00 They look like they're related. Stephen Crowder said that he looked. Asa at the debate. That's his picture at the debate. That's crazy. That haircut is a whole addition. Stephen Crowder said that he looks at the debate. That's his picture at the debate. That's crazy. That haircut is a lot of pictures. Stephen Crowder compared him to one of those white lab rats with pink eyes.

Starting point is 00:35:12 He's like, it does. And then we look like, you know that one, the pastor, the money pastor, let me tell you. They scream at me. What's her name? You know, like, hey, I said Jesus. Don't you ever, but Tyler Perry is a really good, he almost gave away the gym for free.

Starting point is 00:35:32 Yeah. And then Tim Scott, they gave him $20 million for the Super PAC. He should have taken some of that money and learned the project, that voice because I couldn't hear anything. And if they clap a little bit, you lost this message. I think you're talking about Kenneth Copeland. That's it.

Starting point is 00:35:47 Yeah, Kenneth Copeland. Scary little look at that. Jesus watch over. Look at that guy. He looks a little bit like Kenneth Copeland. Look, the first picture to the right. Yeah. No, not that one.

Starting point is 00:35:55 No, the middle one right there. They want to the right there, that one. Oh my God. He looks like, that's the devil. Aisa Hitchens. Oh my God. By the way, Tim Scott. Respect. I like the guy. Iisa Hitchens. Geniuses watching you. Oh my God. By the way, Tim Scott.

Starting point is 00:36:05 Respect. I like the guy. I'm gonna say what Steven Crowder and Nick Apollo were saying. It's like, black people are known for having like some swag, some energy, some vibe. It's kind of your thing. You know, it's like how was Jewish people know our known for like, hey, telling jokes. Yeah, the planners, we get it. A serians are known for being angry.

Starting point is 00:36:25 We get it, you know? But never heard that before. I thought that that's, or Armenians. I apologize. Armenians. Lebanon, Turkey, China. I apologize to Mars. What if he was like, get to the point.

Starting point is 00:36:34 Yeah. But punch him on the face. Dude, Tim Scott, you got no swag whatsoever. Like, give me a little bit, bro. I was actually very disappointed in Tim Scott. I thought he was going to have something. Can I give some shots on the Santas? Yeah, go up.

Starting point is 00:36:48 So to me, the Santas, if you look at how we did, again, alliances, you watch for alliances. Who was shaking who's hand? There was one moment where him and Vivek shook hands. It was uncomfortable looking at the Santas. I was shaking his hands with Vivek. It was right in the middle of the debate when he came up to him.

Starting point is 00:37:08 But Chris Christie and the Santas talked the entire time. Every break, Chris Christie and the Santas were right next to each other. We'll spring talking. Oh, big time, big time. The Santas and Christie. I mean, constantly, not like once or twice

Starting point is 00:37:21 or three times, constantly they were talking to each other. And the Santas was the only one that was coming out not like once or twice or three times. Constantly they were talking to each other. In the census. The census was the only one that was coming out to make up and be fair with them. He was the only guy that would come up and would wave at the audience his camp that was sitting on that one side. Yeah, he was constantly talking, talking, talking the entire time. So I watch, I'm like, okay, that's an interesting alliance. Why would that be an interesting alliance?

Starting point is 00:37:47 Here's why. How many times did you hear the Santas take shots at Trump? None. The only shot that he took was super indirect was about Fauci. The first thing I would say, you're fired, right? And, okay, that's great. But if we were to count, how many times he used the word Trump,

Starting point is 00:38:09 I don't know if he ever used it. I'm telling you. The Santas did not really. I don't know if the Santas said the word Trump one time. However, his mouthpiece did, and that's Christy. So whatever the Santas wanted to say to Trump, my opinion, I could be wrong. Anything the Santas wanted to say to Trump, opinion I could be wrong anything the sentence wanted to say to Trump

Starting point is 00:38:26 Christie said it not the sentence so whatever Christie said is what the sentence really wanted to say go again My thoughts my opinion I could be wrong and the sentence for me he went up there And it was obvious that he had certain points to give which he made his points He gave his speech the closing closing speech, you could tell, he said that speech multiple times, and it was great. Some people say he came across a little bit angry. Do you have the New York Post article

Starting point is 00:38:52 that gave feedback on every single person where they were, what they were saying, the audience said the Santas looked angry. Now for me, I don't mind it. If that doesn't do anything for me, like oh my God, he came back this. Here's a body language expert, Dicex Republican debate was surprising. Insights can you go a little bit lower to kind of see what he's saying? Okay, angry my God, he came back this. Here's a body language expert, dissect Republican debate was surprising.

Starting point is 00:39:05 Insights can you go a little bit lower to kind of see what he's saying? Okay, angry DeSantis is what he called it. Go to the next one. Zoom in a little bit of DeSantis. Also fail to smile, Navarro said, okay, keep going, keep going, keep going. Comfortable, Ramaswani, I thought he looked

Starting point is 00:39:20 very comfortable on stage. Haley's strong will, absolutely. Haley, when she went after the abortion, the women, the way she broke down the woman and abortion, listen, whether you and I as men care anything about that, you see numbers that 67% were against what happened with Supreme Court, and I kind of hurt the red wave that was supposed to happen.

Starting point is 00:39:42 Abortion is very, very important for women, she won there, and she kind of called out Vivek in the, what do you call it, the affording. You're not ready to be a president because you don't have experience in foreign affairs. I don't know. Okay, go to the next one. Let's see what else they say.

Starting point is 00:39:56 Friendly Hutchinson, great. Burgham prop keep going. What is it, church pastor Scott? Okay, make sense. What is a subdued pants? I don't know about that. He had a five second pause every time he was given an answer. You got 60 seconds. You're taking five seconds to respond. Keep going. Who else you got? Who else you got at the bottom? Confident Christie, okay, go. Fair. I would give that. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going.

Starting point is 00:40:21 And then Trump card. Okay. So for me, when I watched the Sanctus, this is what I thought about. There was a fighter in UFC, his name was Tyrone Woodley, okay. And when he was coming up at one point, people thought he was gonna be Dana White's guy. And I don't know if you remember the following I'll be between him and Dana, a big following up between him and Dana.

Starting point is 00:40:41 This guy, good looking guy, incredible body, incredible wrestler. He got knocked out by Parn Cheng. He got every, by the way, every single way this guy in UFC was the guy. What does he start doing? He starts undermining Dana White publicly. He starts complaining about Dana White publicly. No problem. So you know what he does?

Starting point is 00:41:03 Then he gives, Dana gives him a main fight. He fights, I don't know who he fights afterwards. They're asking Dana. So what do you think about the fight? He said, what do I think about the fight? What did you think about the fight? The guy's like, I don't know. He's just, listen, audience was booing. You mean you just want to come and win a championship with points? This is how you want to win. This will be the last time we'll give him a car like this. And that I guess what? Woodley disappeared gone, right? Because he just came to win with points.

Starting point is 00:41:28 I think the Sanctus came yesterday to win with points. And he hit his points. He got his points knocked out of the way. Do I think he went above and beyond what people were expecting him to do? I don't know if I can say that on what he did. I think Nikki Haley, she was last on my list. She came up and she showed up.

Starting point is 00:41:47 Okay. And she brought talking points that others weren't bringing up. So she brought up talking points where she forced us to talk about that. I thought Vivek when he got up and he said, I'm the only person on stage that can say the fact that I haven't taken any money from Super PAC. Okay. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You know, hey, I know what you're thinking right now. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you know.

Starting point is 00:42:05 Hey, I know what you're thinking right now. What would a skinny kid from a name they, okay, that was when Chris, Chris Christie called him I very quickly, he sounded like Obama. Obama, exactly. And all this other stuff. But Vivek, made you think he sold the dream. He sold America, he sold the future.

Starting point is 00:42:20 He sold what's going on. He sold, you know, where we are as a company. You didn't see any of that with The Santas it was a lot of he hit his point he hit his point He hit his point and he hit his point and he hit his point So if there's a job to say I want you to go there say this make these four points and get out Guess what he did it But you need more than out to go against a guy named Trump or even a guy named Vivek so

Starting point is 00:42:44 I don't know if I saw the Santas coming out the gates the way I was hoping for him to come. That's why I gave him a neutral, you know, it's not a plus, not a minus, not a winner, not a loser. He just came to do his job and he went home. So you don't think he connected? Remember when you talked about him connecting Pat? And you were, we were alive.

Starting point is 00:43:02 He was the only guy that wouldn't look at the camera. He was looking at Brett Perry the entire time. Rule number one, Brett Perry doesn't matter. He's not were alive. Who's the only guy that wouldn't look at the camera. He was looking at Brett Perry the entire time. Rule number one, Brett Perry doesn't matter. He's not your vote. It's the camera. Look at the camera. The sentence was, yeah. He was only looking at Brett Perry.

Starting point is 00:43:11 I'm like, look at the camera. And you know who Vivek was looking at straight out the camera. Yeah, I know. Okay, which ones are camera right by the way for the audience? Can you tell me which ones are the camera? You're solo, Pat? Is it this one or this one in a middle? Which one?

Starting point is 00:43:22 I think your solo is the middle one. Okay, so imagine if this is my solo, that one. That's solo. Look at the difference of me looking at you right now if you're watching this, just look at my eyes real quick. Are we not making a connection right now if that's the camera, if I'm looking at the right camera, I don't know if I'm or not.

Starting point is 00:43:37 If I am, we're making a connection. Now watch this if I look here. So you know what we're doing. So that's what you gotta do. And pop up up up up up, you're like, hey, talk to me, you're not talking to me. I don't know, it's just, again, basic elementary stuff that's when it comes on to marketing,

Starting point is 00:43:52 connecting, storytelling that you gotta do. And Viva Kittah. Viva Kittah Mark. Listen here, America. Yeah, I am. I wanna have a moment in time with you right now. Yeah, okay. This is the new day in America right now.

Starting point is 00:44:03 This is probably the most important election of our lifetime. We understand that, right? No, you're absolutely right. They tell you know, you got to address the audience, you got to talk to the audience, you can't. Vivek is the only person up there who has that Trump quality, that yo bro, I'm just shooting from the hip here.

Starting point is 00:44:19 The only difference is, well you know, how many people came after specifically Vivek? Let me back up. Everybody right off the bat. Okay. He's the guy Chris Christie hit him with the chat GPT line. He's like, listen, I don't need chat GPT from India over here. Given his thing, Mike Penn said, listen, we don't need on the job training. I need to be in there day one.

Starting point is 00:44:39 Nikki Haley was there. We're going at it. She's like the on the job training was funny. And then when he said, we don't want up to old. Yeah, we don't need them too young. And then did you hear what Vivek said? Says, listen folks, the same that complicated.

Starting point is 00:44:51 Yeah, you make it as if that's a complicated job. Yeah, Nikki Haley went after him on foreign policy. You would reign Israel, what have you. But it just goes to show every single one of them was like, all right, I got to go against the guy who's beating me in the polls right now and that is Vivek. None of them went after DeSantis. How many people went after DeSantis last night?

Starting point is 00:45:11 I don't remember one, do you? No, how many people were like, Ron, you should have stayed governor of Florida, wait your turn, back up. Well, Vivek, Vivek, when he went like this, or he went like this. There you go, Vivek. Vivek is the only one that went after DeSantis.

Starting point is 00:45:22 And who did Vivek go after? The only one that he went after was the guy that's a little bit above him Decentis it's called punching up. Yeah. This is why Trump doesn't have to show up He's not gonna punch down to ace a hudgeon center to Tim Scott or whoever loser is polling at 1% or two You know who took a shot at Trump though that wasn't on the panel Brett bear when he goes let's uh, let's address the elephant that's not in the room. Everybody was- And he wasn't talking about Chris Christie, man.

Starting point is 00:45:50 Yeah, yeah. But it's true elephant. That's the real elephant, the real good one. Kelly, Kelly brought up, shout out to Kelly. Kelly, shout out, baby. But what's it called? You know, when they said that, Rob, can you tell us when Fox went into the break and they came back

Starting point is 00:46:04 with that elephant in the room question? So it was right around 942, because I started watching- Sick. They said that Rob, can you tell us when Fox went into the break and they came back with that elephant in the room question? So it was right around 942 because I started watching Tucker went live and I at a 55 I started watching 17 seconds after it went live. As soon as it ended, I switched over to the Fox app and started streaming. They literally said, okay, we're going to take a commercial break. And when we come back, we're going to find out. Will you back the president if he's indicted commercial break?

Starting point is 00:46:27 Come back first question. So you know what that almost means? That almost means Brett Baer and Fox knew of course that the first hour, ask whatever bogus questions because all the Tucker audience and the Trump audience is going to come after the first hour. Smart, smart tactic. It's crazy program. It's counter programming between a media company and Twitter.

Starting point is 00:46:48 It's the old age media versus new age media counter programming. Totally. What was the rule they had that other social media accounts could or other digital media companies can only post three clips from the debate? What was that whole thing Pat? Yeah, I mean, there was something they were saying and I think Ben Shapiro was that he was not happy about. He slammed Fox. Pretty solid.

Starting point is 00:47:08 He didn't hold back at all about what they were doing. I think it's in one of his tweets, what he explains what it was. I don't know how many if he tweets a lot, you're not going to find it. Okay, right there. There you go. Fox News, any media covering tonight's debate are only allowed to post up to three minutes total of the footage.

Starting point is 00:47:26 That's about two clips for all coverage by imposing these ridiculous restrictions. They're not only depriving voters of relevant and important news, they're also actually just giving a leg up to Trump who is putting everything out for free on X with Tucker. Good point. He makes a very good point, but it was it was it was interesting. It's interesting how every competitor

Starting point is 00:47:49 CNN MSNBC was driving Everyone to go watch the debate why because they were scared of going and watching Tucker and Trump smart They they anything but Trump remember the rule and me think but Trump go watch anything. Enemy of my enemy is my friend CNN. Who's there enemy? It's not even Fox at this point. It's social media. Social media, of course.

Starting point is 00:48:12 So they want to see ratings up on the Fox. And CNN, like I've never seen this before, but CNN actually had, because you in order to watch it without having a Fox or a cable subscription, you had to download the Fox app. CNN was actually advertising how you could go and download the app and stream it live. When did you ever see that?

Starting point is 00:48:29 That'd be like us going and going, okay, daily wire has this content. Let us show you how you can go and watch. Why would we do that? That's not. Well, we many times give the shout out to daily wire. We don't have a prompt people going and getting, I think one time even on a podcast, I said,

Starting point is 00:48:43 go support daily wire, it's, 14.99 a month, go support all these guys. We don't care about that because we're playing a different competition, but specifically with them, with them, you make a very, very good point on the fact that competitors are driving to go fear, the fear of anything but Trump, Tucker, and Elon, anything, which is fantastic to see competition taking place.

Starting point is 00:49:07 It's one to make one more point about the Republican field right now. You have an Indian guy, you've got a black guy, you've got what's Nikki Haley? Why? She's like, no, she's not white. She's not white. I think she's from Indian descent. I think her family is literally from the India. Okay, so Indian, African-American pants, why? She's like, no, she's not white. She's not white. I think she's from Indian descent. I think her family is literally from India.

Starting point is 00:49:25 So, so Indian, African-American pants, where's she from? Couple of white guys. Yeah. Chris Christie, who's, you know, an Italian doughnut. How was she from born and what? Born and, oh, she's born in the States, or else she couldn't be able to run.

Starting point is 00:49:38 No, no, no, no, no. She's from the States, but where's her parents from? I believe they are from Indian descent. Early last month. Mother, oh yeah, her mother Raj. Wow, yeah, yes. So here you have a very diverse panel that's vying to be president of the United States

Starting point is 00:49:55 or certainly tapped as the Republican nominee. The only problem with that is named the last time that a white man was not the Republican nominee. Name the last time, you know your answer. You're a great point. I don't think. A Republican party, once the last time,

Starting point is 00:50:16 that white man was nominated, that it was not a white man. I don't think it never has. Correct. It never happened. It's never happened. It'd be the half of the Republican bar. Oh, that's Republican. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:50:25 But and there's nothing wrong with that. No, that's just, it is what it is. I mean, 70% of our country was white. So what I'm saying is whether you're Vivek, whether you're Nikki Haley, whether you're Tim Scott, no chance, you're trying to become the first non-white man ever to be the nominee. Now, this is why I said Vivek or Nikki Haley,

Starting point is 00:50:43 or even Tim Scott, they have a way better chance if they were ran as a Democrat and they're never, it's never gonna happen, it's not gonna happen. But, you know, between Obama, between Kamala, whatever VP at this point, between Hillary, there is at least a track record of not just a white man. So, it just, the uphill battle in the Republican party, not only to beat Trump, never gonna happen, but to be the first who's ever done it in

Starting point is 00:51:12 the history of America, it's very tough to do. So Pat, just really fast. So Trump's not even, it's next election cycle out of everybody that was up there. who do you think would, who, would it be close? Oh, you think, no, I'm saying. No, Pat sold me, Pat sold me 100%. I'm not a bother. When he told me this, 20% was like, I think you're still changing yourself, Pat.

Starting point is 00:51:35 But if you pat and just from you seeing it, the speaking, the policies, the everything that you heard from everybody up there, who would be your number one pick to be the president of the United States. If you had to pick, no Trump, Trump is out of the picture, who do you pick? Out of guys on the stage.

Starting point is 00:51:49 Everybody that was on stage. And we have to vote today. And you have to vote today. Mail and ballot. Who do you think? Who do you feel? Who do you feel? Me and you were there live.

Starting point is 00:52:02 Who do you thought, who edged to the front? Who'd you think was really shit? Really shit. I am. I'm gonna ask you too Adam. Shit. You too Rob. Rob, Trump is out.

Starting point is 00:52:13 Who do you, you have to vote? We're voting today. I already have my answer. You're voting. Okay. Okay. If today you have to vote, there's no Trump. Trump is gone.

Starting point is 00:52:23 It's not even a question. It's Vive. To me, it's not even a question. It's Vivek. Okay. It's not even a question. That is me. Now, I've said once or twice that the Republican party of old white men is not voting for a skinny little brown kid with a, with a weird name.

Starting point is 00:52:35 So that's a different answer, but I would vote for Vivek. And give me the one, the one thing that sticks out for you. Revolution, Vinnie. Are you serious? Wait, that's hell up. Are you serious, you're joking. Where are you doing? Sleep walking through life, time to wake up and have a revolution. I love it. Revolution, Vinnie. Are you serious? Wait, that's hell up. Are you serious, you're joking. Where are you doing?

Starting point is 00:52:46 Sleep walking through life, time to wake up and have a revolution. I love it. Sick of your shit. So you are with... I think he's such a stud. I think he's got a business background. I think he's sharp. I think he's captivated.

Starting point is 00:52:56 So here's what I would have to say. If it's like a, I have to decide today, it's, I don't know enough yet to see. I feel like, I feel like I need a little bit more for me to be able to vote today. I don't think I have enough information on Vivek to be able to vote today. I'll tell you, he's more my kind of a guy than anybody else on the, on the stage. He's more my kind of guy than anybody on the, yeah. When you talk to a lot of people, they're like, well listen, he's a chat GBT, he's this,

Starting point is 00:53:26 he's Indian, he's Hindu, do you trust him? You know, he was WF World Economic Forum Soros, all this other stuff. I want him to get cornered with all those questions and see how he answers. And when I asked him the question about vaccine, he was uncomfortable. But you know what he said, he says,

Starting point is 00:53:39 look, I was traveling, I'm doing business. I had to take the vaccine. But if I had to do it all over again, guess what? I wouldn't have taken a vaccine, okay? The angle he took. Ain't business. I had to take the vaccine. But if I had to do it all over again, guess what? I wouldn't have taken a vaccine, okay? The angle he took. Ain't no what I say to that? Co, I respect it.

Starting point is 00:53:50 You made a mistake, you wanna done it again? I'll take that from you. I'm totally cool with that, I can receive that. When he's getting cornered by Costa, how he responded, when he's being challenged, when he's being pushed around, do I worry on what he's gonna do when he sits across these other guys? I don't think he's a guy that gets intimidated.

Starting point is 00:54:09 No. I mean, he's done business deals with so many different people. I don't, he doesn't look like a guy that can push him around or be scared. He stood up to Mike Pence. When Chris Christie says, you know, here's a guy that, you know, he gave the speech and Barack Obama. Do we want another Barack Obama? And then Vivek said, yeah, why don't you come and give me a hug? Just like you get and Barack Obama. Do we want another Barack Obama? And then Vivek said, yeah, why don't you come

Starting point is 00:54:26 and give me a hug just like you give him. Just like Barack Obama. You have them with. So again, look, that witness, that witness, that he came to a bone, I'm gonna give it to you. I like it. So for me, he's got that part. You know, with the Santas, I almost feel bad with the Santas.

Starting point is 00:54:41 Let me tell you why I feel bad with the Santas. I feel bad. Because you know there's nothing more annoying. It's very hard to do this, what I'm about to say. When somebody is dying to have a job, but they're just not cut out for it to have that job, okay, or you're dying to be, you know, you know, the whole saying, you can be anything you want when you grow up. That's a lie. It just is a lie.

Starting point is 00:55:10 I can't be anything I want if I want to grow up. If I said since 12 years old, I want to be the freaking Dunkontist champion in the NBA. 20 inch vertical leap. I'm not winning the Dunkontist and a freaking junior high school with nine foot rims. You know, you are the Armenian Dennis Rodman, you're a rebounder. Yeah. Hey, sharpen those elbows, bill, ambi, or style, you get in there. I, I want to be the greatest code of all time. It's

Starting point is 00:55:34 not going to happen. No. I want to be the greatest compliance officer of all time. Okay. I want to be think about that. Yeah. So there is a part that either he has to calm down in these types of settings and he needs a to be a little bit more smiling, happy, selling the dream, likeable, all of that stuff and win me over. Mike Pence is running on seeing him as a father figure and we want him as a father to go be the president. That's Mike Pence's brand. So he talks like a father to you. And I remember when I was back in the days, my father and that awkward five second pause. Did you guys 60 seconds?

Starting point is 00:56:15 You just nodded to our podcast. Yeah, so Pence is positioning himself to be your father as a president. The same position in himself to say, you're the smartest guy to be the president, most qualified guy. You got Tim Scott to positioning himself as guys. Everything's gonna be all right.

Starting point is 00:56:30 And you know, we got, okay, no problem. We play Vex is running it as luck. I want to roll up my sleeves, get to work. We're gonna do this, like try to catch up because I'm gonna outwork everybody. We're gonna have a blast. And he's a sense of humor. The day of the debate, you know what he was doing

Starting point is 00:56:45 the morning of the day of the debate? He's playing, what was he doing? He was in a morning, went on a boat or something like that or playing basketball, just chilling. And then he goes to his stage of the debate and he's doing a video with his kid and he says, hey honey, any feedback from me before I hit the debate.

Starting point is 00:56:58 One of his kids says, watch out for Christie. He's gonna come after you. Any positive video on you's showin' tennis video. So he's got that, the Indian John F. Kennedy Acceptes the guy that made the money not his parents and even Obama didn't make money this guy made his own money He's a self-made guy. So I would say today It would be him by the way watch this rock. Can you show the picture of trending? Can you show the picture of training guy sent you on who was training on the same day

Starting point is 00:57:23 of trending. Can you show the picture of trending guy sent you on who was training on the same day, same time, you know, not this one, the other one keep going one other one, one other one, I had one other picture I sent you. You don't have that one. Okay, I have a picture here. I'll try to send this over to you. Two people were trending on Twitter at the same time. One is VVEC, 491,000 posts. The other one is Raman Swani, 260, 16,000 posts. That's what, it's the same freaking guy. That's how bad he was trending on Twitter. And what I told him, Rob, I just send this to you.

Starting point is 00:57:53 How good he was trending. Yeah, that's the one. How good he was trending. But here's the point. Here's the point what I told him as well. I said, listen, ain't nobody running without having to overcome some kind of a, you know, a skeleton or something, they're about to come after the guy. Like really come after the guy.

Starting point is 00:58:11 Hard core, especially after last night, they're going to come after him. They're going to call all his old enemies, all old exes, all old business partners, all old everything. There's going to be billboards in around a high school. He went to around the college. He went to around the college. He went to saying, what dirt do you have on Vivek?

Starting point is 00:58:27 Text us as dirt. Ta-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da- friends of her that don't like her that send the pictures to Dylan and Dylan that's how you get it like when you target somebody so I remember when what was his name but from Texas the governor governor governor Greg Abbott not Greg Abbott prior to that Rick you know you know in Texas and we're gonna do it in eight three they were doing ads Rob as your mic on or off because it makes a sound when you're doing that okay so they would text governor, they would call people in Texas and say, who do you know that hooked up with, who do you know that habit? Who do you know that hooked up with Perry?

Starting point is 00:59:11 Phone calls and he's a good looking dude. He's a good looking guy. And nobody's not gonna hook up with that habit. He's a, I know, will test that. This is a dirt. There's boys of doing it, but yeah. That's a dirty side of politics. This is one that gets dirty.

Starting point is 00:59:22 Yeah, so yeah, so guess what? Vivek, it's about to go through it. It's all it is. It's about to side of politics. This is one that gets dirty. Sucio. So guess what? Vivek is about to go through it. It's all it is. He's about to go through it. Between September 27th, you know, when it's gonna be in Ronald Reagan Library, we're gonna see what's gonna happen there. So can we go into the Tucker and the Trump thing?

Starting point is 00:59:35 Let's just- Can I give you the last thing about what Vivek said? I think it was very powerful. The last thing, his last things, this is the reason why Vivek captivates people because he can Just off the hip. Oh, that's why you hugged Obama. All right cool. Yeah. Yeah, that's just spoken like a true lifelong politician bank bank you can very quick with the the retorts But then when it's time for him to state his case

Starting point is 00:59:58 He's direct number one. God is real number two. There areenders. Number three, human flourishing requires fossil fuels. Saying that, when a country that's going green, green new deal, right? Number four, reverse racism is racism. Number five, an open border is no border. Very direct. Number six, parents determine the education of their children. Number seven, the nuclear families,

Starting point is 01:00:24 the greatest form of governance known to mankind. Number eight, capitalism lifts people up from poverty, okay? Number nine, there are three branches of government, not four, basically calling out the alphabet soup out there. And then number ten, the US Constitution is the strongest guarantor of freedom in history. Very direct, very clear, those are the stands for. So Vivek is an absolute beast. Great. By the way, for those of you watching, we're about to launch our next town hall.

Starting point is 01:00:54 We're gonna be doing here live. The last one we did was with Vivek. The place was jam-packed. We couldn't fit anybody in that place. There was like 300 people in the building. If you wanna be a part of that, the VIP tickets sold out very quickly. Everybody got a chance to meet Vivek and at the cigar lunch, which was kind of a great

Starting point is 01:01:07 experience for those who attended. I can't tell you who our next person is, but if you want to be the first to buy the tickets, lock in your spot, text award podcast to 310-340-1132. Once again, text award podcast to 310-340-1132 to be notified because those people in the text get the first notification of who's gonna be on the podcast. Okay, at the live town hall. Next, Trump and Tucker. Okay.

Starting point is 01:01:35 Lots was covered. The first thing that we can talk about is the number. If you can go to the video to see how many views it's got, a lot of people are saying, well, you know, this thing is, it got this many views and that many views and there's a lot of criticism that people want to kind of trash the amount of views. I'll just give you the basic formula for us from the back end standpoint. It's the top one. If you can click on that zoom in so we can see the, you can pause the video. There you go. Zoom in and to see the data. There you go. So it shows 233 million views, okay?

Starting point is 01:02:07 And it's at 678,000 likes. How many comments does it say? Go a little lower to see what the comments are, because it should show the comments as well. They apparently took the comments out. It should have had comments earlier, was 50,000 comments. Yeah, but don't get distracted. So stay on here real quick. So what does it say?

Starting point is 01:02:28 It doesn't show you the comments, Rob. Can you refresh it? I was showing comments earlier. I don't know what they did to remove the comments. So funny, because comments was shown literally earlier today. Let me go on it from my phone, what it shows how many comments it was. So 170 reposted it, only 17,000 quotes,

Starting point is 01:02:49 678 comments. Okay, here's the shows. On-minded shows, 54,500 comments is what it showed. But you have to go back. So go back to Tucker's account, go back to Tucker's account, go up a little bit, and 54,000, stay right there and just pause the video. Okay. So 54,500 comments, people are saying this to just the biggest thing ever since

Starting point is 01:03:11 sliced bread 233 million. Obviously, a lot of people watched this interview, but the numbers work in a different way on how they do the math to get the insights. For example, Rob, did Brandon give you the interview we did with what's his name with Andrew Tate? If you have that, if you can just pull it up, I think you do have the picture somewhere around here that he took a screenshot of it just for people to know because this is important to know the difference right there.

Starting point is 01:03:37 So this is one of our interviews we did with Tate, okay? And each one of them, I think, has gotten 15 million views. Is this the second one or the first one? This is the second one, okay? And each one of them I think's gotten 15 million views. Is this the second one or the first one? This is the second one, okay. So we're just kind of opening up the hood and just showing it to you what happened. So this got 15.1 million views.

Starting point is 01:03:55 If you show that, we're says 15.1 million views, Rob, if you can circle around it so the audience can see it. 15.1 million views, perfect. If you look at impressions, it got 133 million views. On Twitter, that is that, if that makes sense. Now, if we go look at how many, what do you call it, how many comments this interview got with Tate? Let's just go look at the comments,

Starting point is 01:04:23 because that's one of the ways the guys in the business, who ask who we create content, we look at stuff like this, okay? The number of comments Tate's interview got this one is what's the number if you want to read it? The comments is what? Right there, it says it. 70,000 comments.

Starting point is 01:04:40 70,000 comments. So Tate's interview got 70,000 comments. Tate is not more controversial than Trump and Tate, Trump and Tucker, that day of GOP, meaning that interview still got around 20 million real views. That's still a big interview being done. So, you know, as much as people are saying, well, it's not this, it's not that. No, it's still a massive interview It's still a massive eyeball. It's still hit 20 million views where people stuck around to watch the whole thing because you're also looking at Retention all of that stuff you can get off of this thing here Rob if you want

Starting point is 01:05:14 So so in reality big interview big numbers But Twitter a couple months ago took off showing the real views and they're only showing Essentially the number that's impressions. Okay, so that's that part. Now. So it's 11%. That's the number. Give her take just look at about a tent. Whatever that number says, it's around a tent. Still, 23 million views in less than 24 hours, that's a lot of freaking views. Well, I talk about. I think that's, it's a very, very important point that you're making

Starting point is 01:05:44 because if you know anything about CPM and views and Nielsen ratings and everything with that, like if you look at even Forbes entire article today was Trump's interview with Tucker has more than 150 million views on X Twitter. Here's why that's misleading. That's their number one story. And I mean, I'm, body of mine is like,

Starting point is 01:06:04 they got 185 million views. And I'm like, now that doesn't work that way. It's actually 18.5 million is probably the best way to put it. So right now, where, where, there's the Forbes article right there. So what was the number of views that we just had? 233. So it's more like 23 million.

Starting point is 01:06:21 Yeah, so if you just make sense. So I'm basically, you're on your phone. Okay. You just scrolled at that interview popped up. That's an impression. Well, can we pull up that Tate interview like that we that that that we did? All right. 133 million impressions.

Starting point is 01:06:36 We didn't get a hundred and thirty three million views. We got a few. They just saw it. I think it's very important that what you're what you're putting out there. Yeah. I mean, the point's been made. So you kind of now have an idea to look at what the numbers look like. Okay.

Starting point is 01:06:48 This is a debate amongst media companies because when you're selling ads, hey, which one is the real ad to get because I can get 10 times the amount of money or dollars. So, you know, that's the marketing side. It is what it is. Now, some of the things that he said, Trump said on the show yesterday would Tucker.

Starting point is 01:07:05 I'll read a few of them and it will get into some of these years to talk about it. Trump tells Tucker Carlson he should not have been fired by Fox. President Trump said, I think it was a terrible move getting rid of you. Your number one on television and all of a sudden we're doing this interview but we'll get bigger ratings doing this crazy forum than you're using, then probably the debate.ed in blast christie saying savage maniac trump criticized fellow republican primary contend to christian characterizing his campaign strategy as he solely

Starting point is 01:07:33 runs on the basis of let's get trump and he talks about him betraying them et cetera et cetera trumped and attacks bar after talk erase the epstein report when question about former attorney general william bars report on Epstein's death, Trump shifted to critique Barr's approach. To the 2020 election fraud claims, stating Bill Barr didn't do an investigation on the election fraud.

Starting point is 01:07:55 Either he said he did, and he pretended he did, and any continuous bar became so petrified, so frightened of being impeached. Then Carlson asked Trump if he thinks someone is plotting to kill him. Directly, he asked this multiple. Then Carlson asked Trump if he thinks someone is plotting to kill him, directly, yes, it's multiple times. Carlson asked, I mean, the next stage is violence. Are you worried that they're going to try to kill you?

Starting point is 01:08:12 Why wouldn't they try to kill you? Honestly, Trump responded by expressing his faith and the intelligence that the American people stating, I think the people of our country don't get enough credit for how smart they are, and then while dismissing the criminal indignancy faces as bullshit. Then on January 6th, political violence,

Starting point is 01:08:29 he stated towards a civil war that there's a possibility this could lead to a civil war. That was kind of talked about. Then Trump questions Biden's competence. Trump said, I think he is the most corrupt president we've ever had. And he also has distinction of being the most incompetent. I think he looks terrible on the beach.

Starting point is 01:08:47 And I think Tucker said with his chicken legs or skin and legs, whatever he's got. And then he said, I only call one person, one person at a time, cricket. He used to be cricket, he'll worry. But now it's crudkin Joe. Jumbo. So what was it for you when he saw the Tucker, a Trump interview? I, I thought, and I think Kelly mentioned this earlier, Pat, the fact that it was a chill conversation, it wasn't crazy.

Starting point is 01:09:08 He wasn't trying to act in front of an audience. There was nothing going on. It was one and one, and it's like, he's the boss. He's the number one. And to be honest with you, I don't think it wasn't anything impressive. I think it was the tactics of airing it when they did, Pat. And like you said, that aligns right there. It's going to be that for the future, the tactics of airing it when they did pat. And like you said, that alliance right there is gonna be that for the future,

Starting point is 01:09:28 the future of the whole Trump thing, that right there is the alliance of the future. Because I think Tucker is taking this to run for president when it's time. That's it. Yeah, look, the words are almost meaningless to me. It's just sort of Trump, Tucker, the symbolism of it, during the Republican presidential debate.

Starting point is 01:09:54 And these two, Tucker would typically be like moderating something like this, and Trump would be center stage of something like this. Neither of them are there on the X app, Elon Musk's new project, there's just doing their thing. They could have talked about anything, literally anything. And if you're a MAGA crowd, if you're a Trump supporter, you'd soak it all up.

Starting point is 01:10:17 If you're looking for another candidate, you would have been watching the debates. That's, it's pretty much is what it is. Whether they talked Epstein or indictments or January 6th or immigration or China, whatever it is, it would have been sort of, as Trump famously said, I could go out

Starting point is 01:10:33 and shoot someone on Fifth Avenue. I wouldn't lose a voter. I literally believe that. I'm actually yearning for him the day to go shoot somebody in the face on Fifth Avenue. I'd like to see how that happened. You're yearning? You're obviously joking when you're face on fifth Avenue. I'd like to see how that happened You're yarning your absolute joking when you're saying that not like to see if it I like to see it. You know all it was Pat was basically hey don't look at what they're doing over here

Starting point is 01:10:53 I'm the man look at me. It wasn't something explosive. It wasn't crazy I mean he did talk he talked crap about what's her name Kamala Harris He said she talks in rhymes and he made fun of her which was hilarious goes I went on the bus They saw me on the, or something like that. He killed her. He actually spoke positive about Newsom, which was kind of weird. He goes, the policies are horrible,

Starting point is 01:11:13 but I like the guys, a good looking guy. I've always gone along. I always gone along with them. I know how to speak with him. He did the, what's it called? But yeah, the Epstein thing was kind of awkward because he kind of was, he didn't give us straight answers. Like, he might have, you know, I don't know. He might have killed himself. Why do you think he tipped her around the Epstein thing was kind of awkward because he kind of was he didn't give us straight answers like he might have you know

Starting point is 01:11:25 I don't know he might have told them so why do you think he tipped out around the Epstein I don't I don't know you're very direct. Yeah, I really don't know he's hung out with Epstein a bunch But Rob he called them a the mentoring Canony and you guys don't know that if you're blind and that's I mean if you guys have seen the movie like it's not a that's not a good Ties I'll say one more thing about Trump. There's people who will never leave him and there's people that have left him in droves. Who am I talking about? The Maga community, the Maga crowd,

Starting point is 01:11:54 they're not going anywhere. They're doubling down, they're gonna be there for him. You know that he has that base. But it's also very interesting to me who he did call out yesterday. So we called out Bill Barr, right? Obviously Pence, he called him out,

Starting point is 01:12:06 especially the one thing Pence had to say is that he chose the Constitution over Trump and then Trump obviously rebuttal today. I never asked you to do anything, but just look at Trump's inner circle over the last four or five years since his presidency. Very few are left. Pence is gone.

Starting point is 01:12:21 Chris Christie, who was his debate advocate, right? Gone. Bill Barr, who is his debate advocate, right? Yeah. Gone. Bill Barr, who is his attorney general, gone. General Mattis, General Kelly, Rex Tillerson, Secretary of State. All gone. All gone. Who's a CIA guy? The bigger guy. Who was it, Rob? He was at the head of the sea. Damn it. I don't know, but they're all gone. He's like, Mike Pompeo, well, he was Secretary of State, and he was in the CIA. Hell, even Omarosa's gone. So he's gonna have to replenish his inner circle.

Starting point is 01:12:51 Yeah. But, you know, power to the people, the mag community loves him. But anyone who's been in Trump's orbit is nowhere to be found to be interesting to see if literally Jared and Ivanka are even gonna come back. Yeah. So that's sort of the, I think there's, you know how, you know how you talk about for,

Starting point is 01:13:11 in 2020 people voted for what? They voted for, against anything, anything like that. They would have voted for Ham Sandwell, you know, they could have been called anything except, they would have voted for Weekend at Bernie's,

Starting point is 01:13:20 which they did. Exactly. So they, exactly. So, but the question is, so now everything that they said about him at Bernays, which they did. Exactly. So they, exactly. So, but the question is, so now, everything that they said about him at the time, 80% of it is all false. And it came out with Twitter files knowing

Starting point is 01:13:35 if the New York Post article wouldn't have been held back the way the administration reached out to hold it back, Trump's probably the president, okay? If COVID doesn't happen, Trump's the president. Even with COVID happening, Trump got a project, what he called it. Warp speed. Warp speed for vaccine, those who wanted the vaccine.

Starting point is 01:13:53 He got that done for them. That's the guy who got it done. And then they announced that three days after the election was over with. There's so many things that points at this thing. So, you know, the voter, there's a part of the voter and I don't know if it's fully, fully there.

Starting point is 01:14:07 I think there's a part of the voter with him that's like how many more things you're going to make up about this guy that I'm supposed to believe. And just like some people said, anything but Trump in 2020, that camp, there's also camp right now that says, I wonder what this guy's gonna do when he comes in and wins. There is a community there. Is that enough to win the presidency? I don't know.

Starting point is 01:14:31 Does Biden have enough right now to be Trump? I also don't think Biden has a great resume that if they go neck and neck, it's not like one is doing that much better than the other guy that is. I think it's such an evenly matched thing that for the Biden people that want for them to think, 2024 is gonna be the same as 2020, they're absolutely naive to think it's the an evenly matched thing that for the Biden people that want for them to think 2024 is going to be the same as 2020 they're absolutely naive to think is the same thing.

Starting point is 01:14:49 They were one New York Post article away from Trump being a president period. Yeah. I was a done deal, right? They were one COVID situation away from him being a president done deal. So that's that part, you know, there's there's a wait till that happens again though. What a COVID something man. Yeah, it's a lot of people talking about that. You're saying if it's September, October, 2024,

Starting point is 01:15:08 and it's neck and neck, you don't think something's gonna come out of the woodworks.com. No, no, I am not bet on it. I am convinced this guy scares the people who are the establishment folks who have such that that's a car that they've been using to get access to so many different things.

Starting point is 01:15:26 They're dying to be this guy, but they want this guy's life without earning what this guy's done to earn the life. They want to be cool like him. They want to go to the parties like he did. They want people to love and be admiring him the way he has his followin. None of those, who on the other side on the establishment

Starting point is 01:15:42 has people that love him the way this guy love. This guy's love. They don't have any of it guy love. This guy's love. They don't have any of it. Nobody. They just don't. And that envy is a very, enemies who are envious of you, brother, those guys don't just want to beat you.

Starting point is 01:15:54 They want to destroy you. They want to make you disappear. They want you to never, ever exist. But they did this 2,000 years ago to a person. He's got a bunch of people that know him. They did this to a guy out of Africa, South Africa. He ended up coming back and winning. They did this to a bunch of different people in politics

Starting point is 01:16:13 and then boom, they came back and they won. They've been history is filled with stories of trying to destroy people like him. Churchill was hated. There's some stories about Churchill, which is crazy. But I'll give you one thing that makes me think about with Trump. Here's the one thing I think about with Trump. When I watched it, when I watched it sit down with Tucker, you know how I felt? A part of me felt when I was watching his body language that he's lonely. And what do I mean by he's lonely? Not lonely as in he's sitting

Starting point is 01:16:41 around listening to only the lonely. I'm not talking that kind of lonely. I watched him. He wasn't a typical fighter himself. I watched him. He was a little bit more careful. He was a little bit more held back. He was a little bit more like, man, how many more things is he dealing with?

Starting point is 01:17:01 Are you going to pay for this guy's legal fees? Are you going to pay for that guy's legal fees? Are you going to pay for this guy? I remember when we started a company and the company that sued us, they didn't just sue me. I'm like, if you sue me, I'm fine. Sue me, the company, my wife, I'll represent us, but then that I've sued a bunch of my guys. So we had, they were trying to divide them against us. We almost didn't work out the first three, three, six months. Legal fees have to pay for this or pay for that. You got to get the money, you got to get the, so and then if we're spending the money we're gonna go out of business out of company If my guys are spending the money. They're saying it's all your fault Pat

Starting point is 01:17:29 He's going through that right now and there's an element of no matter how tough you are Internally when you're by yourself. You're alone. So Do you know on us is who on us on us is was? You're saying the who Jackie who she married. Yeah, he was a general I believe on us is was at one point the richest man in the world You're saying who Jackie, who she married. Yeah, he was a general. I believe on us. Onesys was at one point the richest man in the world. He was up there.

Starting point is 01:17:48 And after Jackie and John F. Kennedy got a divorce, Jackie ended up marrying Onesys, okay. So now Onesys was a good looking guy. Handsome, loved, respected, powerful Pushdiambo. He was a womanizer girls love them yet all these weird art collections he was the guy like you wanted to go on the boat to be at monaco

Starting point is 01:18:12 all this other stuff and incident happened between jackie and john f kennedy and eventually jackie got close to him through the sister all this other stuff and he was always fan of jackie turning them air in each other. Here's a crazy thing. Do you know who onus is became best friends with at the time that trusted him the most? Churchill. Him and Churchill became very good friends.

Starting point is 01:18:36 Churchill didn't trust a lot of people at that time in his life, but he trusted him. He trusted the fact, the fact that he could spend time with Onas' and it would sit down, whether it's playing cards or whether what Churchill felt like he can open up around a guy like him. There was no competition. Onas' wasn't trying to use Churchill to go get women or to go do this. There's nothing Churchill could give Onas', nothing that he couldn't get on his own. So Churchill felt this was a sincere relationship. When you're Trump, you know what's the scary thing?

Starting point is 01:19:08 When you're Trump and you're in the last 10, 20 years of your life, it's a part of you that's wondering. Everyone tries to take something from me. They're either using me to get a relationship. They're either using me to get some fame. They're either using me to get eyeballs. They're either using me to do something they're gonna do in four or eight years.

Starting point is 01:19:24 You start, and when you're in the last 10% of your life, 20% of your life, you start asking questions and saying, man, am I just being used at this point? Is that all it is? Am I just being used? Am I just being used? I don't know if he has an onus's friend in his life. I don't know if he has somebody in his life

Starting point is 01:19:39 where he can sit down to and just talk and that person has zero desire to go and say, you won't believe what Trump and I talked about today at dinner, he told me this, please don't tell anybody just between us. I forget, and you know when people said just between us, well guess what happens when it's just between us? It's just between you and everybody else nowadays.

Starting point is 01:19:56 There's only a few people in your life when they say, dude, nothing's gonna go to anybody else. Yet when you're working in a 1099 business and you're building sales people, that anybody can leave you at any time and go any worlds. They don't have to be with you because they have to.

Starting point is 01:20:10 They leave you because of what? They choose to stay with you or leave with you. You know what's one of the ways you get people on the 1099 site to trust your long term, no matter how much you learn about these guys, good, bad, ugly, dark, anything, keep it. Have it between the two of you. The value of that is one of the biggest insurance policies.

Starting point is 01:20:31 I look at him and I say, I wonder how much he's got my back. Is he a hundred percent? Maybe 80 percent? Where's Adam? Is he 90 percent? That's how I look at everybody. That's how I look at you.

Starting point is 01:20:43 That's how I size everybody up. I'm sizing up to see where this person's at. And then that's gonna give me a percentage of how much I can open up with this person, how much I can open up with this person. Then imagine being Trump the last seven years, they've ruined your incredible life that you had. Your life was awesome.

Starting point is 01:20:59 Everybody would go to parties, dinner, everything. You had an incredible life. You lost all of that just because you run for office. Now, all of the people you gave money to, behind closed doors, want to ruin your life and you don't have an onassis in your life. I think Trump needs a relationship with the other person who wants nothing from him.

Starting point is 01:21:18 And it's a low-key relationship that nobody knows, nobody needs to know. It's off the record, never interviews, never public, never tweeting, it's nothing. That is the most valuable relationship for him today, and I don't know if he has it. I don't think that's... That's such a great point, Pat, because I don't think he's...

Starting point is 01:21:37 If you had to guess what kind of person would be a person and he would be able to sit in a room with me, yo, bro, like, what's going on? Are you okay? Like, some normal people get a psychiatrist. Who would he would be able to sit in a room with my yo bro like what's going on are you okay like some normal people get a psychiatrist who would Donald Trump be able to I don't even think Pat there who there's always people there in his circle that would be the list is not a long list the list is not a long list but those people are there and the list is not a long list and it's probably some of that we don't know and then Pat going back to what we were

Starting point is 01:22:02 talking about about the fans about the real Trump loving Magga that Adam was talking about and then I was thinking about the other day because like my Japan I'm not saying I'm getting tired of them but Pat Trump is just every time we see him as Trump and everything is Trump Trump Trump I can't even get mad at the hardcore Maggo representing pissed off Core that he has because if you think about it from all the cheating From Hillary with Russia from the FBI from all the cheating, from Hillary with Russia, from the FBI, from the laptop from hell being held back so that people wouldn't be able to vote from COVID,

Starting point is 01:22:33 from being unleashed from China, which believe what you want. I believe the timing of that was the most suspect thing, especially with the relationship Trump has with China. But do you guys remember in 2017, the Houston Astros, am I joking, a huge Yankee fan, shout out to Yankees, minority owner Pat? Huge Yankees fan, the Houston Astros in 2017 cheated.

Starting point is 01:22:53 Okay, they got caught. They got caught cheating, Pat. The Dodgers, I was in LA. Dodger fans were like, they were furious. Okay, they were going bananas, but guess what? The Houston Astros still won. Nothing happened. They still get to keep their thing. Think about those Dodger fans, Pat, when they hear about Houston, they are furious at Houston because you know they cheated,

Starting point is 01:23:16 but they got, they basically got away with it because they don't, they were language. They're, they're championship. The thing about it, Trump fans are those Dodger fans and are like, you know what, FU, we're still- Very good point. You feel me? Very good point you're making. And mind you, I'm a huge Yankees fan. We got cheated that year too, without two things.

Starting point is 01:23:32 I remember Judge even talked about it. Dude, I got goosebumps because I remember watching that game too, without two things grabbing his chest, going, don't rip. Yeah, because you got a mic on you or a system on you. So I totally, I changed my view because I'm like, why wouldn't they be pissed off? And why wouldn't you end to be honest? If you guys didn't try to fm over and cheat on Pat,

Starting point is 01:23:50 Trump would, this would be, he'd be finishing his second turn. You guys would be done with Trump, but now he's gonna be. And by the way, you know what's crazy? Do you know if they would have done that? The census would have probably been the president. 100%. You know, you know because there is no friction between the two. Zero.

Starting point is 01:24:06 There would have been no opportunity for friction. So they almost doing it to Trump also took away the Sanctus potential future president. 100%? What a, what a, what a thing that happened. So again, look, I don't know what's gonna happen. Again, there's an audience that wants to see that, but go ahead. I know, I just go go to a quick, who are Donald Trump's best friends.

Starting point is 01:24:24 And there was multiple articles, some from Politico, some from Vanity Fair. The number one guy was a guy called Tom Barak. Do you remember him? He actually spoke for him in 2016. He was his inauguration chair in 2020, but he's been dealing, I guess, with some legal issues. The other names they keep popping up are Rudy Giuliani.

Starting point is 01:24:42 I don't know if that's like a best friend, but that's someone you have in your life, your heart amannises lawyer. It's tough. Another one is Roger Stone. I wouldn't necessarily classify that as a best friend, but I think you're right. I don't know if he actually genuinely has just like,

Starting point is 01:24:56 no, like for you, you have Steve, you have Alpho, you have like you have guys that these are your, not business related, just genuine friends in your life. So for example, think about, look genuine friends in your life. Yeah. So for example, think about, look at Joe Rogan and Dana White. How many times have they done a podcast together? Zero. I don't know if they've done a podcast.

Starting point is 01:25:13 I don't think so. Have they done a podcast together? I don't think so. Dana White podcast. Has that ever happened? I don't know if it has. Maybe it has and we missed a mark if you did. I don't think so.

Starting point is 01:25:22 I just don't think it's. February 21st of 2021. Okay, so they did one podcast together. Okay, good. But if you did. I don't think so. I just don't think it's. February 21st of 2021. Okay, so they did more podcast together. Okay, good, but if you think about it, how many times you think they could do a podcast together? Joe's got a bunch of people, he's got 20 times, 10 times, 30 times, you know, these guys are Brian Callan. I don't know how many times Brian Callan's been on.

Starting point is 01:25:38 I don't know how many times some of these guys have been on. Duncan Jostles has been on there. Those guys are his guys, right? Okay, you know, the backing they have for each other, Joe and Dana, it's a great relationship. It's phenomenal to have that kind of backing. I just think, when I saw Trump yesterday, and when I watched the Tucker interview,

Starting point is 01:25:57 he didn't seem like himself. He kind of seemed a little bit, I don't know if I can use the word defeated, I just kind of will use the word of fatigued, little bit fatigued. That's what I would say. Yeah, dude, really. I got that feeling yesterday a little bit.

Starting point is 01:26:10 I got that. And you've never said that before. You've always talked about how high energy is. I don't mean by high energy. I think you'll still do laps around most 25 year olds when it comes on to work. This is not what I'm talking about. This is when, you know know when you're boys,

Starting point is 01:26:27 when you're boys who always said they have your back, they have your back, they have your back. And then some of them are like, well look man, I talked to Mary and just, I'm so sorry, you know I would, but Mary talked about the kids and they're trying to go into the school and she knows that if our son who could be a guy that goes to Harvard and the school. And she knows that if our son could be a guy

Starting point is 01:26:45 that goes to Harvard, and I just know if I do that, I don't want to hurt John. And you look at him, you're like, wow, bro. You told him you had my back, and now you're doing this. It's nothing personal. Do you know how many people I've told him that in the last year, year and a half? How many people think I've told him that?

Starting point is 01:27:01 A hundred, 200? And he's sitting there saying, I got you to job at Fricking White House, I got you the job at freaking White House. I got you that job on the shymate of phone call to the NBC executive. I got your wife to get the kid to go into that school. Now you're doing this, oh my. He's experienced that times a few hundred,

Starting point is 01:27:18 and you know what he's probably asking? Hey, mom, hey dad, what do I do now with these people? You're like, doing this on something I'm saying to you, like all of those calls you made for people, you didn't have to do that, nobody knows. Now those same people, you help them elevate in their lives, now behind closed doors, want to be like, you didn't do nothing

Starting point is 01:27:39 and gratitude is gone. You know, I'm experiencing that little bit of my own sight in a different level with people you're in business with. You know, I've experienced that in the've experienced that the last five years, whatever the timeline is, and you kind of say, okay, but on a minuscule level compared to a guy like this. So that's the feeling I got when I saw him. Look at us, what it is, we're going to see what's going to happen, but that was my feedback on myself. How much of this is the day before everything that just happened in Georgia today, right?

Starting point is 01:28:04 The indictment came down. I think it turned himself in. Is this happening as we speak now 7 30 tonight? Okay, so it's happening. We've been tweaked matter of fact put it up. Let's read the two 24 hours later here. Just read this tweet. Adam read this tweet. Sure. There's 231,000 views and still count 231 million. Sorry 231 million views my apologies. That can be punched into that. the biggest video on the social media ever More than double the Super Bowl, but please excuse me I have to start getting ready to head down to Atlanta, Georgia Where murder and other violent crimes have reached levels never seen before to get arrested

Starting point is 01:28:39 By a radical left low-life district attorney fanny willis for a perfect phone call It was perfect We all know that and have the audacity to challenge a rigged and stolen election stolen was spelled the evidence is Irrefuutable arrest time is at 730 Clearly this was I guess the answer to my question. This was on his mind By the way, it how impressive is it the fact that he's spelled irrefutable right but stolen That's amazing. That's the biggest amazing way. As a guy that always took ESL,

Starting point is 01:29:07 I'm just impressed by that. So he always gets the hard right, but he gets the easy ones. You know what? Who's what it is? Go ahead. No, this has to be on his mind. I mean, look, the Myra Logo raid,

Starting point is 01:29:18 okay, that's one thing. Stormy Daniels and other thing. But, you know, this perfect phone call thing, there's gonna be people on the other side of this stand saying that it was not perfect and that this is the reason that they are charging him for this. So this has to be weighing on your mind, at least a little bit, no?

Starting point is 01:29:35 At least a little? One of, you know, what did he call it? The cuts of thousands, what is that one? The, the, the, the, the, 1000 cuts? Death by 1000 cuts? It's like how many cuts does that that's what it but but it's but but has been a crazy

Starting point is 01:29:50 that he's gaining more people because the people are seeing this for exactly what it is in my misswanis that it was not about that's you'd you're using a party i never thought the ship would come to this a political party is using the Department of Justice. That's the majority of all Democrats to go after this guy because they know he's number one, but he's gaining more of a following and more of a backing. And it's great.

Starting point is 01:30:16 And going off of a pet, his soul, it wasn't his physical fatigue. It was in here. It's like, bro, this guy has been fighting since the day he was like, all right, I'm going to run for the people. The moment he said that for us, I don't care what you want to say. When he said he's going to fight for us, everybody behind closed doors, the swamp, Chuck Schumer, that other rat, what the hell, Nancy Pelosi, everybody turn on and say what you want. He gives a shit about us and everything that's happening.

Starting point is 01:30:48 His name, his career, he's about to go to jail and get a freaking mug shot. The amount of shit that you do, he's not perfect. I understand what he did in New York and dealing with the mafia and getting control. I don't give a shit about any of that. Though, moment he said he's for us, everything went to downhill and he's still fighting for us.

Starting point is 01:31:04 And now he's still wants to go in at him and do another four years. And it ain't like they're going to go away. You think the swamp, all the alligators are going to go, no, he's good. No, no, they're going to keep coming. They probably have more shit that they're going to try to do for him. But that's the thing. Anybody that talks about helping us goes to shit. That's why Rama Swami, all the, they say that they want to fight for us, bro. That's the template of what happens to you

Starting point is 01:31:26 when you give a shit about the American people. It's everybody just like Chuck Schumer said, if you go after, if you're saying that the Department of Justice has seven ways or six ways to come after you and look what they did, bro. Okay, so, all right, we'll see what's gonna happen here. Again, this is, nobody told you to run for office.

Starting point is 01:31:44 That's the one thing you got every time like when I'm running a business or things are not going your way and you're dealing with 50 different types of pressures. You know what I go back? It's my line that I always go to last. I say to myself, no one asked you to be a business owner. Who forced you to be a CEO, Pat? Who forced you to go start a company? Who forced you to get married and have four kids? Who forced you to do it? Who forced you to after you sold the company to want to keep going with, nobody told you to do it?

Starting point is 01:32:12 You chose to do it. So as much as when you go through that phase of feeling bad for yourself, you have to go back to no one told you to run for president, you chose to do it. So, you know, there's a picture of Abraham Lincoln in the White House with a quote that says, being a president is the greatest burden a man could ever have. It's a burden you age. It ruins you. It destroys you. Many different ways. Not for everybody. And those

Starting point is 01:32:33 who do it, you can carry a lot of stuff with you when you go through and it's kind of going through right now. We're going to see how it's going to end up the next 15, 16 month. What a great point, you know, Pat. Nobody asked you to do this. You chose it. It's a choice, man. It's a choice. Okay, so a couple of other things to go to. Progoze and Putin. One of the things that was brought up yesterday was by Nicky Haley. And he says, look, I don't know if you guys are sitting

Starting point is 01:32:58 here defending Russia and saying, you know, hey, why don't we just give Ukraine's land back to Putin and that's what's gonna happen. Putin killed an opponent today. Putin killed an opponent today. He killed an opponent today. That's what he did, and she kept saying the audience was like, yeah. That was a big applause then that happened.

Starting point is 01:33:14 Rob, do you have that list on the article that Peter was talking about? You know what I'm talking about? The list, is this the one? Yes. So here's a Vladimir Putin speculated hit list of critics and enemies. If we can kind of go through this year,

Starting point is 01:33:30 so a lot of me putting at the top has been a long shot, Rob, are you going through names? Okay, I'm up, I'm down for it, I'm going to the KGP. Okay, here we go. Progoation, which by the way, there's a video, but if you want to put the video of what happened to him dropping the plane and you kind of seen it saying, yeah, it, it,

Starting point is 01:33:44 there's some people that might not be familiar with what just transpired over the last few months with him why don't you why don't you bring everybody up to day so I remember when it all happened it was the same day that we did the podcast with Alex Jones he was here it was live it was sitting here he's sitting here and I don't know if Alex Jones had done his research on this and oh yeah let me tell you oh yeah he runs the Wagner. It's basically the black water of Russia. It's like a mercenary group right there. And he's going through the streets right now, brother. And like basically what happened was

Starting point is 01:34:12 this black water military group that basically it's a private military group. They're doing their own thing. They're fighting in the Ukraine and Malaysia, but like mercenaries, probably the best way to put it. They were going through the streets of Russia on their way to Moscow to essentially, as it was labeled, do a coup, right?

Starting point is 01:34:37 I mean, this happened in Turkey a handful of years ago. Things are progressing, But eventually they stopped at, I think, one major city. There was a sort of an agreement or an alliance formed and part of that agreement was that you're gonna go to Belarus, you're gonna get out of here. He was greeted by the people in the streets of Russia as a hero, you know, some people in Russia, not exactly fans of this war,

Starting point is 01:35:06 especially the 200,000 mothers of young men who were killed over this war in Russia. So obviously there's some issues there, but then Putin, you know, like a tiger waiting in the wings, you know, banished him to wherever the lat. What's funny was, I read an article on him 48 hours ago, this happened 24 hours ago, about that that he was fighting ISIS in North Africa and I was like I was like that's so random that pergotsian is now fighting ISIS of all things did you see any

Starting point is 01:35:35 of that yeah yeah so then apparently his flight his plane was I don't yeah so did you I robbed the audience actually see it? The video? We should play the V-roll. Sounds good. Fantastic. So that's kind of what happened. Yeah. And you as intelligence said that it was intentionally caused explosion that crashed the

Starting point is 01:35:53 Pagosian plane. Well, and this came out just, I want to say 40 minutes ago, there was a tour. They were getting ready to sell the plane that they were on yesterday that crashed. And I have to find the video But you can actually see people doing tours so they were showing the plane to potential customers And the suspect the suspect what people suspect happened is that somebody put a bomb inside of the plane Well, they were showing it all And Pat I want to talk about a gangster move. I mean, first of all, if you try to do a coup

Starting point is 01:36:25 on a leader like that, guess what? You, there's a saying, you efforound, you find out. First of all, with the impact, you know the most gangster thing is poo, and I showed Adamine, you saw it upstairs. Poo was like, hey, with regard to the aviation accident. That's how he started the, like condolences. He's like, I want to express my sincere condolences

Starting point is 01:36:44 to the families of all the victims. It's always a tragedy. And indeed, if they were an initial data seems to indicate that Wagner Group employees were also there like to note that these are people who have made a significant contribution to causing the fighting of the neo-Nazi regime. And then he goes progojean and known for a very long time.

Starting point is 01:37:03 This is Putin on progojean. And I knew him from the 90s. I saw him say difficult fate. And he made mistakes serious in life and he achieved the results that were necessary for himself. It's it's it's a biggest gangster move. Well, bro, you mess with Pooin. That's the shit. Do you think Putin was behind us? 1000%. That's not an accident pack. There's no way bro. 99.999.999.999. You try to fight against a guy who's poison people. Messy, you're about to read the people of a Lissy point.

Starting point is 01:37:32 I think it's so, Putin very, it wasn't like, he wasn't sad, he wasn't somber, he's like, he was a man of difficult faith. He made serious mistakes in life. Look at the, is this it? These are the results that he can play this. Look at this. Он был в сириозной жизни. И это это? Это результат, что он играет. Это герарь. Это не как вы рактал в детьте.

Starting point is 01:37:53 Это был человек служный судьбы. И ошибки у него были серьезные жизни. Он добивался в результатах нужных. И для себя и тогда, когда я его просила в этом, для общего дела, как вот в эти последние месяцы. Он был талантливый человек, талантливый бизнесмен, работный на ненавистры. У нас в стране, из результатом, работал, но из-за границы в Африке в частности.

Starting point is 01:38:25 И она позднималась от со мной в Чугазом, драгоценными металлами и камнями. Вот он, а вчера только на сколько мне стало известно, вернулся из Африке. Лисен, я не знаю, что я все это сказал. Но я бы сказал это для камера, You know, I'm saying all this. You know, it was me, but I have to say this for camera because, you know, we pretend to have the way that they can. So here's some other people.

Starting point is 01:38:52 So we got, you've got any progoshin, okay. So we just heard that one. You got Pavel Antov, Russian tycoon who fell from Indian hotel window in December of 2020, after 65th birthday, who was also criticized Putin's war on WhatsApp. Just back up a second. You know, those Indian billionaires, Russian, who just want to, on their birthday, want to jump out a window, you know,

Starting point is 01:39:11 while they're celebrating their birthday being a billionaire in India nonetheless. Maybe he had one too many chicken curries, you know. So, reveal, Maganov is the openly criticized Russian Ukraine's invasion call for conflict and then he fell for Moscow hospital window. A lot of falling out of windows, Pat. Damn, rap a port, rap a port.

Starting point is 01:39:30 The businessman condemned Russia's Ukraine war on supporting Ukraine daily beast, founded in the department of early August to an effluor the license 25. That should scare the hell out of everybody right now. Which is what? Because this is an American, Yeah. That was criticizing the war. Okay. And he was in DC and just found dead. Weird. Who wrote this article? I mean, Christy, you might want to like get on.

Starting point is 01:39:54 I'm saying Christy. You might want to change. He's like, Christy's going to go to Peter's saying, hey, would you mind if we put your name? Your name for who wrote this and Mikhail Lesin, Russian press minister, was founded in DC Hotel Room November 2015 from head trauma.

Starting point is 01:40:11 He was very influential in Russian politics, and tons of information of the leaders class, Boris Nesmetov, ex-deputy prime minister and the years in the Oregon, who's totally shot near Kremlin in 2015, walking home from a restaurant, Boris. I mean, this list goes on. But you know what,

Starting point is 01:40:26 our friend Anthony Wiener would say, Pat, he's been in politics forever. These people just fall off the buildings and these are deaths that come up, Pat. We know what we know. You know who would have a lot of stuff to say about things like this? Glenn Greenwall, okay.

Starting point is 01:40:40 We should have him on. Can we have him? By the way, if there's a guy that can talk a lot about this because he's the first guy that interviewed. Is he not the first guy that interviewed the... Who in? No, no, no. When he went and interviewed, is a Snowden or is it...

Starting point is 01:40:52 Snowden was the first one. He's a documentary. Documentary. The movie that was made when I interviewed him, right? Oh, it was a made one of my favorite documentaries. Yeah, it's a very... I say we have him on tomorrow on the podcast. Where are you?

Starting point is 01:41:03 I say we have him on. I say we invite him, Rob. Is it okay if we have him on tomorrow? Sure. So we'll have a month tomorrow on the podcast. Wait, you are? I say we have a month. I say we invite him Rob. Is it okay if we have a month tomorrow? Sure. Okay. So we'll have a month tomorrow. He'll be on the podcast. Is he on tomorrow?

Starting point is 01:41:11 Nine a.m. Nine a.m. You know, my schedule says 5 p.m. tomorrow. Okay. Or is that the, that's a prep. I got that. Okay. So tomorrow 9 a.m.

Starting point is 01:41:19 We'll have a month. We'll go through a bunch of these different things together with him. But aside from that gang, again, we are about to announce our next town hall that we're going to be doing. And another live podcast we're going to be doing, an interesting one, with a couple people that actually would like to debate each other. It's going to be an interesting one. And once we announce these and they sell out, every time we get complained, so every time when people say, Pat, I can't believe I want to buy a ticket from my husband and my wife,

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Starting point is 01:42:06 We've done it with the both guys today. Yes, this is done with podcast today. We're doing another one tomorrow. Anyways, Gank, thanks for being with us this afternoon. I know we typically do 9 a.m. but we were at the debate, so we wanted to make sure we got to you guys as well. Take care everybody. We'll do the scan tomorrow.

Starting point is 01:42:21 Bye bye. Bye bye. Patrick Badevin here from the ITIM and PBRD podcast. Look, once a year, we host a conference called the Volc Conference. It's our Super Bowl where 3,000 entrepreneurs, CEOs, executive salespeople from around the world come together to spend three and a half days together from August 30 to September 2nd at the diplomat resort in Miami to learn how to scale their business, how to identify their next 5, 10, 15 moves, who to recruit next? Who to go raise their money from?

Starting point is 01:42:45 How to raise capital? How to property scale? Culture? Retention? Higher? Fire? All of those things and much more. And we do that over a span of three and a half days.

Starting point is 01:42:54 And the reason why it's a very important season to attend a conference like this, the following reason. Today, there's three different types of people. They're scared. They're those that are content and the obsessed. To scared, they don't want to do anything because they're worried about what's going to happen to the economy.

Starting point is 01:43:07 They're going to take a big hit. The content, they're walking on, saying, like this, put you okay, I don't need to do anything else. And then there's the obsessed because they see a massive opportunity today. So imagine spending three and a half days with three thousand obsessed people that want to grow in a season like this. Imagine how much you can run from just those relationships and networks. So on top of the people that are going to be attending at this event, this is probably the best lineup

Starting point is 01:43:28 we'll ever have out of all conference. Tom Brady, 7 times champion, I'll be interviewing him. He'll be out of all conference. Mike Tyson, Will Gidera, the gentleman who ran the restaurant 11 Madison, New York, that went from a regular restaurant to a one-mission and start, two-mission and start, three-mission and start, and eventually the number one restaurant in the world.

Starting point is 01:43:44 He's going to talk about how to treat their customers. So look, if-mission one-star, three-mission one-star, and eventually the number one restaurant in the world. He's going to talk about how to treat their customers. So look, if you've not registered, yeah, this is my recommendation to, I never went to conferences when I was coming up by myself. I always went with a spouse, with a business partner, or running mate, because I only have a lens on what I see every night afterwards. We would sit there and say, what was your biggest takeaway? So get yourself your spouse, your partner, your running mate registered to come spend

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