PBD Podcast - EMERGENCY Podcast | Patrick Bet-David Offers Tucker Carlson a $100 Million Contract
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Okay, so we had to go live because of the announcement we just and homey look what I've become. I'm the one.
Okay, so we had to go live because of the announcement, we just made a, what is it, two hours ago,
three hours ago when I was on Megan Kelly
today at two o'clock.
And there was a lot of people asking questions.
We were gonna wait till Thursday to go live
and everybody said, let's go live tonight
for 45 minutes, answer some questions.
On the offer we just made, if you haven't, if you want to pull this up a wrap so we
can talk about it, we made a public offer to Tucker Carlson on the great Megan Kelly show
a few hours ago.
And then we tweeted our offer and we put it out there.
It's an article.
You can see the details.
It's crystal clear.
Two Tucker curls.
And let me start off by reading this.
If you can zoom in a little bit more so the audience can also see it.
This is, you can find this on Twitter.
Dear Tucker, I'll get right to the point.
We want you to partner with us in what we feel is a noble and necessary effort to define
the future of media.
Here's our offer.
A hundred million over five years, an equity-staking vitamin,
present-of-vitamin and a board seat
to project your strategies, your strategic vision and voice,
your podcast, plural, singular, and other daily weekly shows,
documentaries and movies covering topics you care about,
what else, we're all ears.
Our convictions about freedom, liberty, and truth run deep,
and we believe we are the absolute right fit for you in America. Why we may not be the biggest media company, we are a new media
leader driving into the future to make truth, fair debate, and commentary more accessible,
consumable, and protected. We are 100% serious about offer, respectfully myself. So that message was sent out.
I gave that to Megan.
Megan asked some incredible questions going back and forth.
And we got a few things that we want to talk about today.
We got a handful of clips that Rob's prepared.
I want to share with you about what Tucker has said
on why we felt this was an ideal offer to him.
Tom, you know, I've been talking about this with you
since last
week when we heard about the news and then we processed it more and then all of
a sudden this morning, seven o'clock in the morning, I had a call with you guys
and we had an emergency call. I said, tell me this is a bad idea. Okay, and I kept
going. I said, I don't want to stay private. I want to announce this publicly
because I think it needs to be something everybody knows about. And then the announcement was made.
We agreed on the podcast.
We were writing it and a media announcement to Megan.
What are your thoughts about this announcement that we made today?
Well, first of all, I think it's really important that a lot of things nowadays happen with
transparency.
We've gone through an era of COVID and other things for such a lack of transparency.
I think that transparency in a lot of ways,
takes speculation out of the mix and makes it certain.
And I think that's what that's all we want to do here,
is take the speculation out.
Whenever you start working together,
there'll be always some peon at a law firm
that kind of leaks.
It's like you look at professional sports contracts, Pat, right?
All that the people involve, swear that nobody said anything.
All it takes is one associated a law firm leaking it out
And so I think what this is is an open straight-up transparent statement so that people understand how serious and how
Capable and more importantly how important we feel our role is in the new media landscape
Yeah, you know, it's it's pretty wild to think about the era we're living in because back in the days,
all of this would have been quiet, hush, hush.
You can't say anything, what about this
and what about that?
Well, this person said this and that person said,
and we think they're saying this,
we're think they're saying that you have to be proactive today.
And, you know, let the, I think a bigger part of an offer
like this being made as well is who he hears from
from personal friends.
So think about it.
You know, a a Tucker
Carlson who is loved adored by a lot of people and obviously he is he's got the right enemies
as well. Whoever his enemies are, if you don't agree with the enemy's philosophies, guess
what? You guys are right enemies, right? He's going to get messages and people are going
to say, you know what? Here's what I know about this brand. And by the way, for the audience,
for those of you that have helped value-taming from day one,
when we had 60 subscribers, not 60,000.
60 subscribers were, we went from there to a thousand,
to 10,000, to a hundred thousand.
Now we have total whatever,
six million subscribers,
and now turning it into a median company,
consulting from all these other things that's happened,
PBD podcast, the audience with the members,
all the folks that we have with a value timid and pivody podcast,
none of this would happen without you,
but I also think this is a once in a lifetime type of a guy.
I think his voice is super necessary,
and our offer is a serious one,
and hopefully next steps will be going through
having different kind of conversations.
A lot of people have reached out, guys, my phone,
I am trying to catch up on text messages, I'm trying to, guys, my phone. I am trying to catch up on text messages.
I'm trying to catch up on DMs.
I'm trying to catch up on.
It's coming in hot and heavy.
It's from all angles from all over the place.
Yeah, go ahead.
It's just a great thing.
It's a great movement pack.
I mean, you're obviously serious about what you're doing.
And everybody has to play their part.
Just like, you know, in football, when like,
Tom Brady wants to come do a team,
some people have to take pay cuts on the team. So that's why I, to make this thing happen,
I took a 30% pay cut, which, what a noble guy you are.
To make that $100 million dollar, I'm all in, Pat.
That's why you're Vinnie. I mean, that's why you're Vinnie, and that's why you're loved by everybody.
But, yeah. So let's, who this? If you got, if you got that stuff ready, let's just kind of go through some of these things.
Because right now, Gang, if you're watching this, everybody knows what some of the offers
are out there, outside of what some very powerful people that would probably reach out.
But it's not like people don't know the offers, whether it's, Tom, you've given the names,
whether it's newsmax, whether it's the OAS of the world, whether it's, you know, Tom, you've given the names, whether it's, you know, Newsmax, whether it's the OAS of the world, whether it's other legacy, whether it's the
Rumbles of the World, whether it's Spotify, whether it's, you know, some billionaires saying,
let's come together and start a media company together, and what if we do this, and what
if we do, there's so many different options of where to go.
Let's first talk about frustrations that Tucker has shared in different shows over the last few months.
Rob, if you can get a couple of these things prepared,
for us to just kind of go through.
And these are his words.
So this first one here, what's he sharing on this one if he can zoom in,
because I can't see it. What's this one about, Rob?
This one's discussing.
All things you can't talk about.
No, building seven.
So this is one. I mean, look, you can't even talk about these types of issues.
Some people are interested in it.
Go ahead and press play.
Last thing I'll say is, they're not offended by craziness.
They're not offended by conspire.
If you go on TV tonight and say, I think the earth is flat,
people will just laugh at you.
They don't care if you think the earth is flat.
It's not a threat to anyone.
But if you say, what actually happened with Building seven? earth is flat, it's not a threat to anyone. But if you say like,
what actually happened with building seven? Like that is weird, right? It doesn't. Like, what's that? Right. If you were to say something like that on television,
they'd flip out. They would flip out and you'd like lose your job over that. Why? Why?
It's Mike country. Right. As soon as I tap a mic, three, can I ask it? Like, I don't really understand.
Do buildings actually clap? No, they, maybe they do. I don't know. But like mic three. Can I ask it? I don't really understand do buildings actually clap? No, they
Maybe they do I don't know
But like why can't I ask questions about that anything? You're not allowed to ask questions about
Is something you should be asking more questions about
Last thing so so the issue right there. Okay, is he alone there?
Is he the only person that wants
to know what happened on Building 7?
I do not know.
You remember the podcast we had
with the gentleman that talked about Building 7?
I'm sure you can take it down.
Remember that?
Richard Gage.
Richard Gage.
I mean, we went back and of course,
we went back and forward.
He said this, he said that.
What about this and what about that?
A lot of people have questions on it.
Some of it doesn't make sense.
Some of it doesn't add up.
You look at the clips, you look at the videos.
This just doesn't add up.
Guess what?
There's got to be a place for a person
like that to be able to talk about that.
Now, there's a couple different places
you can talk about that, but there's formats as well.
There's certain formats that you can create
where an audience can go find what you have to say
about your thoughts on building seven.
Yeah, Pat, can I ask you a question?
How long until they, because you talk about they,
we know they are, till they figure out a way
to come after the
Places like we are or the newsmaxers or because they're pat they're trying yeah, I'm just trying
I'm curious how long you think till they because they're finding little loophole to try to come in to sound because this is this is their biggest fear
Are these conversations are those conversations? What do you think well? I think we saw a small proxy of that
With parlor and I remember I have a parlor, there was intense pressure put on their hosting partner.
Now, their hosting partner just operates servers.
They buy electricity, they plug in servers
and operate a large infrastructure,
and that's where parlor lived.
Those weren't parlor servers.
Parlor was renting that space,
and pressure was put on the infrastructure,
the server people to say, you know what we
don't want to do business with you, turn you off.
And so there already is like, there's a big chessboard, Danny, and there's pieces that
move around to try to shut off that kind of conversation.
And that, I looked at that and I was like, wow, isn't that interesting.
So I don't like what you say, maybe shut off your hosting.
So now you have to go find hosting providers and people that agree with you.
So it's more than just maybe the producers say,
hey, we have a lot of pharma advertising on this channel.
So don't be screwing around talking about the allergy meds
or Lord God vaccinations.
Don't bring that up.
These guys pay the bills, they pay your salary,
and they're big advertisers, so knock it off.
It could be that simple, that's a very direct, right?
That's tit for tat, you know,
very direct. Or it can be indirect where they're like, man, we don't like with these people
saying parlors conservative, they're getting a little voice out here, they get the election
going on. Man, we got to, you know what? Let's put pressure on people to shut their servers
off. So there's a lot of ways out there. And I think the resistance needs new media companies
that can stand up to that resistance and find ways to stand in the middle of the cloud and give that message to the american people
that want to hear it
i love it
yeah i agree time i don't think that's gonna be something a guy like that should
be able to talk about that stuff and let us make a decision to see now what
we don't agree we don't think you're right we think you're right let me go to
malndu diligence let me do a little bit of a research myself
right yet another clip you want to show i do this was uh... Tucker's. He appeared on the full-send podcast where he talked about
Jeffrey Epstein being murdered and the fact that Tucker devoted an entire episode of his show
to Jeffrey Epstein being murdered and not committing suicide and nobody.
Now here's a here's another question. How many average Americans are sitting there saying
you're so concerned
about investigating what happened with, what he called it, what happened with, what's
the word, with Stormy Daniels, with the $120,000 Hush Hush money.
Why are you so, like, this is so important, we have to figure out, get to the bottom of
this.
We have to do this.
And died him.
And died him in Manhattan.
Yet, yet a guy, a guy who's a pedophile who has been proven to do this and died in and i didn't mean that yet yet yet a guy
a a guy who's a petafile who is been proven to do what he did ebstin you don't
want to find out and get to the bottom of that
well i'll not a lot of average americans think that's a red flag so play this
clip of talker talking about this
we know that he was murdered
he was murdered
in the special housing unit
of federal lockup in Manhattan.
How do we know he was murdered?
Oh, well, look into it, dude.
We did a whole segment.
I don't know, I should nobody cared.
I gotta watch it after.
You should.
It's beyond belief.
And I'm very skeptical of any kind of conspiracy theory
or whatever.
I don't know where people go after this though.
We know that he was murdered because, well, for one thing,
I, a friend of mine's one of the people who last talked to him
on the phone the day he was killed.
Oh, what?
And he had a expectation of a bail hearing in two days.
He thought he was getting out.
He was not despondent at all.
I talked to his lawyer, told me the same thing.
They moved someone out of his cell.
They put two people, one of whom was not even a full-time prison guard on duty.
None of the cameras trained on the cell work.
They were all out of it that night.
They locked the front of the special housing unit that had eight cells in it,
but then they opened all the cells inside.
So who was it?
So I asked a really simple question, the Bureau of Prisons, who were the other,
so there are eight cells, 16 minus his cell
because he was alone.
So that means there are 14 other inmates there that night.
What are their names?
Where'd they go?
Some of them are transferred out right after.
Who were these played questions?
Can't tell you that.
Really, you can't tell me that.
Why on the basis of what?
Because some inmate at a federal prison's privacy concerns
like Trump tell what are you even talking about?
Meanwhile, the attorney general of the United States
under Trump bill bar issues the statement being like,
no, it's totally bill bar glide.
There's no question that bill bar
is clearly suspected Epstein was murdered
but stopped the investigation into.
I went and read Bill Barr's book
in which he explains all this
and it's like complete bullshit
and transparent bullshit.
So I have no idea why the Attorney General
of the United States would be lying about this,
but there's literally no question that he did.
I know him, so we Bill Barr is super nice guy.
We reach out to Bill Barr like,
hey, why don't you come on and explain
why you lied about Jeffrey Epstein's death.
No.
Yeah, well. By the way, how many millions of people about Jeffrey Epstein's death. No. Yeah, wow.
By the way, how many millions of people?
I'm busy that day.
How many millions of people, tens of millions of people,
you think we'd like to get that question answered.
Oh, how many people?
I'm tens of millions.
I would say hundreds of millions.
It's probably 100 million people.
If you think of 330 million people in the United States
and even third would be 110, there's
probably 110 Republicans like know about that.
Probably 100 million people would very much like to know about that.
It's a fair question that he's asking.
Why don't we go investigate that?
Well that's called journalism and immediate company, news outlets, should go investigate
that.
You cannot say 100% this happened that happened, but let's investigate and see what happened
with that.
What's this next one Rob? I can say 100% that it's odd, but let's investigate and see what happened with that. What's this next one, Rob?
I can say 100% that it's odd and deserves a stir.
There's no question.
I think it's more than odd.
Guys, not to stop the video.
It's more than it's we're not stupid.
We get it.
I mean, he's a threat, bro.
Tuckers a threat.
That type of conversation, those questions they don't want to hear because there's so
many people at higher levels involved.
The only one guy that got kind of introubles who prints, prints Andrew Pat, you know what his punishment was from the Queen?
You can't have any like speaking duties.
Yeah, you can't speak in front of the public.
And what?
When you hear somebody talk about these, I don't even want to call them taboo conversations,
but these topics that people have deemed taboo, like Jeffrey Epstein, like World Trade
Center 7, you immediately pigeonhole them as right wing conspiracy theorist.
But this is a video from 2019, ABC's Good Morning America's Amy Robach or Robach.
I remember this.
She just left the network after she was involved in that affair with another guy, but this
is a video that she was captured on video off Mike talking about how she had
the Jeffrey Epstein story and the network made her sit on it for three years.
So you could sit here and make the claim, well, if you believe Jeffrey Epstein killed
himself, you are or was murdered, then you must be a right wing conspiracy theorist.
But then you look at this, which is a ABC for all, all intents and purposes. It's not a right wing or a left wing media outlet.
And this is what she had to say about the investigation
that ABC made her not report on.
Gosh, when the red lights on, you're not supposed to talk.
Yeah, shut up, Amy.
Can you refresh that to see if it'll clip?
Because I know exactly what this clip is,
and it's a great one.
Just try one more time to see if it'll happen.
Again, so Tucker's not the only person
that's asking this question.
So are other people?
This has got nothing to do with left or right.
This is just people that are curious.
Go ahead.
I've had the story for three years.
I've had this interview with Virginia Roberts.
We would not put it on the air.
First of all, I was told who's Jeffrey Epstein?
No one knows who that is.
This is the stupid story.
Then the palace found that out that we had her whole
allegations about Prince Andrew and threatened us in a million different ways. We were so afraid
we wouldn't be able to interview Kate as well. That also quashed the story. And then Alan Dershowitz
was also implicated in it because of the planes. She told me everything she had pictures,
she had everything.
She was in hiding for 12 years.
We convinced her to come out.
We convinced her to talk to us.
It was unbelievable what we had, Clinton, we had everything.
Should we not know what she was thinking on?
Should we not know what they all had?
And now it's all coming out.
And it's like these new relive revelations
that I freaking had had all of it.
I'm so pissed right now.
Like every day I get more and more pissed
because I'm just like, oh my God,
it was a, what a weird past.
A.B.C.
other wooden backhand.
The producers are probably going nuts
behind the screens right now.
Like what are you saying?
A.B.C.
The original thing was leaked at their pace.
Lost their mind.
Oh, they're real.
Who is Epstein?
Like who is Jeffrey Epstein?
What do you mean who is Jeffrey Epstein?
Meanwhile, she's not a freedom fighter.
She's just saying, damn it, I lost a Pulitzer.
She lost, yeah, because of that.
And at the end of the day, it's good.
I'm not being overly spiritual or religious.
It's good and evil and evil right now is winning
because you can't even say it.
They're so protected, it's insane.
Look at JFK pet, how many years ago was that?
They're still hiding documents.
They're still saying, no, you guys can't see this
because we're not smart enough to figure it out.
But we're not stupid.
We're just living in a different era.
The difference between 1964, you know,
when, you know, November 22nd,
when JFK's assassination happened.
And today, there's one thing that wasn't around back then.
There was no social media.
There was no citizen journalism.
There was no people just getting out there and talking
about what they thought about it.
There was no podcast and there was no,
let me tell you what I think about this.
There was no people that just got up and said,
I need to get to the bottom of this.
It was just legacy media that's the one thing
you had to take, you had to listen to what they had to say.
That was it.
You cannot do that today.
There's a lot of people that are questioning
so Tucker, saying this on legacy,
who's been in it with Fox for 14 years,
is saying, listen, even me at a place like Fox,
can't really talk about what I really wanna talk about sometimes.
And it was really interesting
about the Kennedy assassination.
You just said the word citizen journalism.
The Kennedy assassination would have been a canned story
from the US government if it wasn't
for one citizen standing at the edge of the grassy knoll on a piece of concrete with a small
video camera.
His name is Adrian Zepprooter.
And if it wasn't for Adrian Zepprooter, the, you know, Kennedy killed by Oswald, the
whole thing would have gone there.
And instead, they started talking to other people.
They had the Zapruder film, they talked to other people,
but it was Citizen, a little citizen
who became Citizen Journalism.
He was just, he was doing that for himself.
I'm gonna go down and take pictures.
The president's gonna be driving by.
And he's got an early little movie camera
gonna show his family.
Oh my gosh, the fry was.
And for our fenders, they didn't release that film
once they had possession of it.
That film was not released until 1975
when Geraldo Rivera did a good morning America
at night special.
So that video, they knew was around for 12 years
before it was shown to the public.
Wait, frame 194.
I wonder why.
Here it comes.
I wonder why. I mean frame 194. I wonder why. Here it comes. I wonder why.
Literally, really, I wonder why.
And speaking of JFK, Tucker devoted in an episode to the JFK assassination, and this
is a very interesting clip.
It's only 27 seconds.
Go flip.
Yeah, of course.
We spoke to someone who had access to these still hidden CIA documents.
A person was deeply familiar with what they contain.
We asked this person directly, did the CIA have a hand in the murder of John F. Kennedy,
an American president?
And here's the reply we received verbatim.
Quote, the answer is yes.
I believe they were involved.
It's a whole different country from what we thought it was.
It's all fake.
Well, I can't tell you how many people have sat down with from the JFK side because I've
always been curious about what happened here.
Again, this is the American history.
We should know what's wrong with digging in and wanting to know more.
The fact that he is asking that question, and if you were to ask yourself, why does Joe
Rogan kick major ass on podcasts?
Maybe because he asks questions
and thinks thoughts and has concerns millions of others have. Why? Why does Tucker Carlson
do as well as he does with his numbers? By the way, you have his numbers because the only
thing we talked about today on the podcast was a Friday numbers, which was his last show
was 2.6 million. But can you go to the previous days if you have them?
Do you have all of them or you don't have all of them?
Yes, so this is the week of April 17th, the week before Tucker got fired.
These are the ratings across the board.
So Monday night, 3.174 million, whereas CNN had, yeah, 635,000,
one fifth, and then MSNBC had 1.4 million people.
Then you go to Tuesday, 3.22 million for Fox,
750,000 for CNN, 1.3 million for MSNBC.
Wednesday, 3.3 million, yeah, across the board.
You go to Thursday, 2.9 million,
and then Friday his final show, 2.6 million people.
But let's fast forward to the week that Tucker's gone.
And we go to Monday.
God.
Monday, you're at 2.5.
First one makes sense.
Because people are tuning in to see who's going to be on Tuesday, 1.7 million.
I don't like that guy.
Wednesday, 1.3 million.
He's boring.
Thursday, it goes up a little bit, 1.4 million, and then Friday, they had a weekly low of
1.15, 3 million people. And for those of you who think these numbers might be fudged, they're a weekly low of 1.153 million people.
And for those of you who think these numbers might be fudge
they're from adweek.com.
So these are what people base their ad revenues on.
And by the way, did you notice that even Tucker being down
Cooper went down?
Yeah, I went down to 1000.
Well, they didn't move.
They didn't go up.
So CNN and Evan C.C. didn't get more audience.
As a matter of fact, Pat was just saying,
Anderson Cooper went down.
He went down. He went from 6.67, 30 to 5.80. So is the argument that if they're
not on Fox and then channel switching, maybe they're not on cable news at all. So in other
words, Anderson Cooper is begging for Tucker to be back because it's hurting his business.
Of course during the commercial day, maybe they jump over to him. It's the, the privilege
son of a Vanderbilt could be talking about cats stuck in
trades.
It's like CNN when Trump got back in the room.
When CNN people want to know, yeah, they definitely want to know.
Go ahead, you would say.
What's CNN?
Like CNN is begging for Trump.
Wait, you know how bad they want Trump to be arguing and getting back into the races because
their ratings are going to go up.
Their ratings went up during the whole indictment thing and now they're back to nothing. So, Pat, here's my question to you.
What do you think?
Because Tucker's been in this business for how long?
He's even set it on the full set for a long time.
What happened in here?
Where I know they fired him,
but something happened I think in him where he's just like,
because he was speaking out a lot lately.
Do you think his career went to cause where he's like,
no, it's more than just the money, because he has all the money in the world. He's rich as hell. He'd say it's his career went to cause where he's like, no, it's
more than just the money because he has all the money in the world. He's rich as hell.
It's sad again, would you just say? He went from career to cause. It's bigger than just
the money and the numbers and this, it's his voice. He's actually, that's why I respect
the hell out of him. He wants to let the people know that all this things, so you make your
own decision.
Yeah.
You know, musicians happen to Bono with you too.
His career clearly went to cause a whole red campaign
and trying to raise money for AIDS in Africa.
I think there is a moment where you cross over
and you say, you know what,
I'm no longer a tool of this industry I grew up in.
And remember all the wonderful nice things
that Bono had to say about the music industry?
And then he was, he was with the UN and with Kofi Anna.
And I think there is a moment where you go to cause.
You know, here's what you have to think about.
And I'm gonna give a complete different analogy for you.
And I'm gonna bring Brady, I'll bring Kobe,
and I'll bring a free of the guys.
Okay, so think about,
think about when I was in the company,
prior company, I got started in that company
April of 2002.
And I got in with a dream.
I'm like, man, I'm working 80 hours a week. I I got in with a dream. I'm like man
I'm working 80 hours a week. I want to go out there and do what I'm like on fire
Boom boom boom and in all of a sudden I realized the guy at the top
We have a meeting together with him in Hawaii and I'm asking him question. You don't look like you're working
Every time you tell me well come to this dinner. Oh, they cancel last minute
I'm gonna come to this cancer cancer cancer cancer. It was constant cancellation and winging about what he was gonna do next to help grow the company.
Nothing was happening.
Finally, I confronted him and we sat down, we had a talk
in Hawaii and everybody's looking at this meeting
and I said, listen man, I don't believe
you're doing this anymore because you love this business.
I think you're doing this just because of money
and you're done.
You would much rather play golf and do other things
and I don't, I wanna play ball.
But I need you to be straight up with me
as well, you know, I want you to look at me
and my eyes when you're talking to me.
He says, well, the sun's on my face.
I said, let's switch.
You said you're, so we switch.
I said, tell me.
And he eventually said, you're right.
I don't know what my next move is.
I don't know if I love this as much as I did, but it's great.
But I do.
I'm still wanting to do this
because I'm on fire about this business.
Great.
So then I leave and I go and decide what I want to do next
We start our own company when Kobe was playing with the Lakers who was the owner the Lakers when Kobe was playing with the Lakers
Jerry boss. Okay, so what is the relationship of Jerry boss to Kobe to the GM to the head coach
What's Kobe looking for Kobe's game is to do what?
What's his responsibility?
Improve himself, improve his footwork.
Some of the time go hang out with some, you know, off season,
go hang out with rockets, a large one, see if you can do better footwork,
train, make sure your health is good, don't party too much, don't go crazy,
don't do this, don't do that.
The GM's job is to do what?
To put people around you to put supporting castle.
What's Jerry Bus's job?
Every year set up the company, set up the organization
to win a championship.
That's what you, okay, no problem.
Great.
So there is roles that everybody has.
Okay, Tom Brady, another guy that played 20 some years
and he played under New England Patreus for many years.
What's his head coach's job?
To wanna win.
Bill Belacek is a true believer.
He's not doing it because he wants a paycheck.
Phil Jackson's not doing it because he wants a paycheck. Phil has got how many championships?
He's got 12 as a coach and one as a player when he's got, yeah, he's got 12 total six with
Michael, five with Kobe, one with the New York Knicks. I think 1972. I may be off on the
years. So he's got 12 championships. Phil is not doing it because he wants another house
in Montana. He does afford a love of the game in history. Okay. All right. No problem. Bill
Belacek, love of the game. Tom Brady, love of the game. afford a love of the game in history, okay? All right, no problem. Bill Belochick, love of the game, Tom Brady, love of the game,
craft, love of the game.
Let's go build the biggest organization.
Let's run a bunch of chips, six of them, right?
So the thing that changes, the thing that changes
when you're at Fox, no one knows if Robert Murdock
changed the love of the game.
No one knows if it's all now with the sons
and the influences change because it's, you know,
well, you know, these kids know what they're talking about.
Let them kind of do this stuff.
And behind closed doors, they're like,
listen, you're putting the wrong leaders
in decision-making process and you're forgetting
who the eyeballs are.
People are coming here for us.
When I was in the former company, there was a lady.
Let's call her Susan.
She, at one point, started having more authority
than the leaders that were building the company
and she was a home office employee.
And she would say, you can't speak, you can't do this
and you can't do that and she would hang up on people.
I'm at one time, I'm like, who is this lady?
So, when those types of people get more influence
and the way they talk to talent, when those types of people get more influence
and the way they talk to talent, they forget who is king,
you're bound to lose the company
and you're bound to lose people like Tucker.
Now in this case, there's also lady there named,
Susan, whatever her name is.
Suzanne.
Suzanne, if she thinks she's bigger than Tucker,
the game is done.
You are not bigger than Tucker.
Nobody comes to Fox to watch you.
People come to Fox to watch Tucker.
This is the issue Michael had with the ownership of Chicago, Jerry and Jerry.
Well, it's because of the GM.
If it wasn't for us, we wouldn't be able to put the team together.
And then Michael says, what?
Listen, I didn't see you playing tonight.
We got to still go score some points on winning the game.
And so that there was a conflict there.
The point I'm trying to make to you is,
we don't know the real conflict behind closed doors
on how they viewed Tucker.
You know how annoying it is that your name is Susanne
and everywhere you go, people say stuff like,
well, if it wasn't for Tucker, you guys wouldn't be number one.
Well, if it wasn't for Tucker, you wouldn't be number one.
Well, let's talk about us.
I mean, did you see I was ranked on media?
That's the number one most power player in my jungle? Yeah, but if it wasn't for Tucker, you wouldn't be, yeah, but if it wasn't for Tucker, you wouldn't be number one. Well, let's talk about us. I mean, did you see I was ranked on media? I had as a number one most power player,
I was like, yeah, but if it wasn't for Tucker,
you wouldn't be, yeah, but if it wasn't for Tucker,
can you imagine how sometimes people who are non-players,
their dreamers to be a player,
they sit there and they say, what, what about me?
What about me?
And what about me?
And what about me?
So then this brings me to a movie
that we just watched, which is what, air.
One of the best.
In a movie air, you see Sonny Vicaro,
who is working at Nike.
Nike has got 17% of NBA players at the time,
Converse is 54% and it's Adidas.
That's really what the numbers were like.
Nobody was going to Nike.
And Nike's players were the bees.
Nike's players were the bees.
They were not the number one draft pick.
Converse had bird, magic, you know,
Julius Irving, Adidas had everybody.
And so here's what we're gonna be doing.
What are we gonna be going after?
But the difference between Converse
and the difference between Adidas was
Phil Knight had a vision with Nike.
Phil Knight was at the office every day.
Phil Knight wanted to build Nike.
Who won? Michael won.
Sunny won. Phil won. Nike won.
We all won. Fans won.
Everybody won. The NBA won.
Even the NBA collecting fines from Nike at $5,000 again for wearing red shoes, they won.
Everybody won.
So in a case like this,
the most important thing you have to think about what someone like
this is, if I go to sleep at night, okay, what things do you not want to stress out about?
As a talent, you don't want to be stressed out about what's going on at the company
you're working at.
Of course.
You don't want to go to sleep thinking, what are they going to be doing?
You know, what are they going to be?
So right now, if these guys are trying to silence a guy like Tucker, let's just say,
if they're saying,
oh, we're not gonna let them have anybody.
You can't sign when everybody, we're gonna pay you out.
We're gonna hold you in the contract.
If they try to hold them hostage,
it's gonna be a very big thing
that'll backfire with that organization.
You know why?
If they try to hold them hostage,
here's what Fox needs to know.
Say they try to hold Tucker Carlson hostage
and they don't release him from the contract.
Great.
What happens with all the talent
that are looking at going with Fox? Guess what they're gonna be thinking
Dude, there's the worst this is that type of company. I'm not gonna go into a hostage crisis type of a situation
I'm just not gonna do that if they're trying to do that. I don't know the details
I made a reference of Stefan Marbury were the team is trying to hold a hostage if they're trying to do that
No Pat you and I follow professional sports a lot, but don't isn't it interesting
where you will also have like a horrifying franchise
and if you're agent,
even if they were gonna back up the truck for you,
your agent comes back and says,
the Seattle Super Sonics have made a big offer
and you'd be like,
it's bigger than a Laker offer.
Yeah, but tell me about the Laker offer again.
Yeah, no, I don't know.
You just wanna go there.
Yeah.
Pack has you got some organizations
that just, you wouldn't go to those organizations.
And, go ahead Rob, go ahead.
Well Pat, you brought up a good point.
You brought up mediaite and mediaite
actually did the most influential in news media
in 2020, to list.
This is from December.
But I'm gonna scroll to the bottom.
I'm gonna give you the first three, and then number four is Tucker.
But number one is Susan Scott.
Exactly.
I remember this.
We talked about this.
She's number one.
She's a number one pal.
But she's not a broadcaster.
She runs the network.
Yeah.
Number two, biggest names in media.
Elon Musk.
Elon Musk.
Not a broadcaster, but he owns Twitter.
But he should be number one, by the way.
I think so. So, number three, Chris Lick and David but he should be number one by the way. I think so. I think so.
Number three, Chris Lick and David Zalglitz makes sense.
Fine.
Not a broadcaster.
Yep.
The first broadcaster that appears on the list is number four Tucker Carlson, which is
number one talent.
So he is the number one broadcaster in the United States as far as being on television.
Who would you say?
Who would you say is a close number two?
Who?
Two who two Tucker. To talk as far as a close number two? Roman? Two who, two, tockers.
Tockers.
As far as a broadcaster in the United States.
So the way I would put it, I would put it two separate things.
It's two, I know they don't combine it that way.
They put everybody as the same.
There is, it's two different leagues they're playing in.
These are two different leagues.
And what I mean by two different leagues is two different sports.
Tockers is number one in mainstream media.
Rogan is number one for podcast.
These are two different games and FYI, you know,
who else you got to put on that list? Ben Shapiro.
You have Ben Shapiro when it comes on to politics.
He's probably, I would put, I would probably put Ben Shapiro
on politics number one for podcasting.
I don't know if I put anybody on the podcast on site
above Shapiro, I would put podcasting period, Rogan is obviously
to go. Period. Politics specific. It's going to be Shapiro. And then obviously Tucker's number
one for mainstream media. Would you say Ben Shapiro has a bigger reach than Anderson Cooper?
No way. You think Anderson Cooper has a bigger reach than Ben Shapiro? Oh, no way. So
independent broadcaster over. I established me.
I was not even close.
Glenn Beck over.
Let's just go with Anderson Cooper again.
Glenn Beck, Glenn Beck, I don't, I don't follow him as closely as I do with Shapiro,
but I would say Beck at his peak, Beck was crushing it.
He was a number one guy on TV at one point, but today, I would say Beck is probably still
beating Anderson Cooper.
What?
Jettadaya made a great point on this morning's podcast.
If you did not happen to watch it, go back and watch it, but she talked about the death
of mainstream media and the rise of independent broadcasters.
And you asked her a very specific question about Tucker and why there wasn't this excitement
around Bill O'Reilly, why there wasn't this excitement about Megan Kelly leaving.
And she said, it's the rise of the independent broadcaster.
I think we're in it.
This is it.
This is the moment where it shifts definitively from mainstream media and people watching it
and consuming it as the way that they've always had to now everybody is going to make this
shift.
The majority of people towards these independent broadcasters, the blaze daily, wire
value, payment, etc.
Good.
Yeah.
I mean, look, the one thing you have to know is,
you know, when you're in sales and you have a market
or when you're running a company and let's just say
you're a real estate guy or let's just say
you're an insurance guy and 30% of your sales
and your clientele comes from a golf course
that you go to on a monthly basis where you're a member at.
And so you meet your clients over there, right?
As an insurance person.
And then you've got another 40% that comes from you going to,
I don't know, I'm just making stuff up from a local
what do you call a chair, a Chamber of Commerce meetings
that you go to.
Another 30% is referrals that come to you.
You can't all of a sudden give up the 30%
you're getting from the country club
and just go all what do you call it.
Go all, Chamber of Commerce.
His eight o'clock is part of his audience and that's the sixty five plus
audience
but
the question becomes
is he transferable
to go to the twenty five to forty roll audience
does that audience want to hear him
you just saw he went on full-send podcast their audience is what it's a younger
podcast
you saw trump went on full-s, eight million views within 24 hours.
What does it say?
That audience wants to hear you.
They want to talk to you.
So the way I would structure this
would be in a different way.
Because I think there's also a price
that some people that I want to hear
what Tucker has to say.
You got to pay premium for it.
Of course.
There's some stuff that's going to be public
and you're going to distribute it everywhere.
There's some stuff you want to hear this
what he has to say.
That's going to be all private and you got to pay for this. There's going to be a pay- this, what do you have to say? That's gonna be all private and you gotta pay for this.
There's gonna be a pay-wall for you to have to pay for.
I'll be 100% out of your pets,
so I'm still using my ex-girlfriends login
for fox and everything, so I don't,
well, I'm just being honest, it just finished,
I'm not joking, it just finished.
It's a great ex.
I'm kidding, excuse me, I'm saying this.
Respect your ex.
This is your ex-girlfriend.
It's my ex-girlfriend, am I, do you,
or is it, I have her Netflix, everything.
The only thing that expired was the Fox thing.
And it happened two days before they let go of Tucker.
Obviously, I would have paid for it if he still stayed there.
But there's absolutely no way that I would pay for it now.
If he goes somewhere else, that's OTT.
1000% I would pay to listen to him.
That's because he's worth it.
Pat, you feel me?
I'd pay to listen to him. And by the way, let me tell you this, I would almost want him to him. That's because he's worth it. Pat, you feel me? I'd pay to listen to him.
And by the way, let me tell you this.
I would almost want him to have something on OTT
where he can letter rip and just talk
and I go there and listen to it.
I almost want FYI.
Let me also talk to the audience.
Let me also talk to the audience.
So audience, I'm gonna talk to you.
And I wanna hear you, hear me out here
and let's kind of process this thing together.
If my argument makes sense to you, buy it.
If it doesn't make sense to you, don't buy it, okay?
Here we go.
So, some people may say, well, yeah, you know,
I would love for Tucker to get a voice and blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, and I would love for that to happen.
Hey, you know, Elon Musk, I would love Elon Musk
to not have to rely on big, far more sponsorship
and all this other stuff.
Hey, I would love for Elon to not have to need money
from Pfizer and all these other guys
and all these companies that are saying
they're canceled in the membership.
I would love for that to happen.
Hey, I would love, okay, check this out.
Netflix has 216 million users worldwide,
the pay and average of 12 bucks a month.
Let me say that one more time to you.
216 million users, Netflix says,
that are paying 12 bucks a month, by the way, I'm helping
for that and odds are you're contributing towards that and odds are you're contributing towards
that.
Vinnie's not going to run.
That's neither you.
If you're watching this, if you're watching this, if I can get your attention, Tom, if you're
watching this and you're saying, well, I don't like the fact that Netflix does the woke
and Disney does this and Disney does that and what,
no problem.
Then when other OTTs come that are trying to fight that
and they tell you 1499, 1299, whether it's daily wire,
whether it's whatever, guess what, pay it.
Pay it.
Don't go, I can't believe I'm doing that.
Pay it because what you're doing to them,
that money is gonna be used to go get talent.
So this relationship is a two-way highway.
I remember I would go to charity events
and I would say, Jen, these guys are going to want some money
tonight, get the checkbook ready,
we got to cut some money tonight.
Okay, great, we're sitting there.
And I would say, if the argument's good, we'll cut the check.
And I would sit and say, oh my God,
this is such a great point.
We don't need one of those machines.
We need five of those machines.
How much is this machine?
Each machine?
$59,000.
You know what?
$500.
You know what?
Absolutely.
We'll support it.
We were planning on only giving this much.
Here's the money.
Because it made sense, we need five of those machines in that city instead of just needing
one machine.
So, audience, this is a two-way highway.
If you're sitting there not happy about it,
you got to fund and help those companies that can do something with that money to get that
voice to be bigger. And then this is going to be crazier. You got to go and get that vote
of other people also subscribing, just like we get somebody to get elected. So when I had Rudy
Giuliani on the podcast and we're having a conversation on the, what do you call it,
in 59 90 live
And it was talking about well the election this and the election dad and election this. I'm like, you know
I'm not for it. I'm not for it. It's what me. I'm not for it
I said here's what I'm for if you think there's gonna be any kind of cheating going on the election
guess what what?
Get seven people to go vote for vote with you. Nobody should go vote by themselves.
What do you mean?
When you go to vote, do you typically go vote by yourself?
Yes.
Moving forward, just like the army we had the body rule.
What's the body rule?
Bring somebody with you.
Always have a body with you.
This year, 2024, guess what?
You should not vote alone.
You're gonna go vote?
Pull somebody from the office with you.
Hey, Johnny, wanna go vote with me?
Let's go.
Hey, you wanna go vote?
Let's go. Don't go vote by yourself. What is the point?
We got to become a little bit more also, you know,
collectively in this tribal leadership to say,
let's bring people as well. If you like, like, let's just say,
let's say this opportunity happens and we bring Tucker and Tucker decides to do this.
Okay. And we have the conversation announcements.
May Tucker's coming to my team and fantastic.
Guess what?
Whatever is gonna be in a private platform
where Tucker can speak freely, and that is announced,
whether it's with us or anybody else,
if we don't get them, I'm telling you right now,
anybody else that goes get some, I'm telling you,
go support it, God willing gets with us
because we really would write for it,
but if it's not, go support it, and FYI,
let me prep you a little bit more.
This is how sometime when we started a company,
this is what I said when I first started
the insurance company, that's the guys.
I want you to be thinking about this, what's that?
We're about to make this announcements,
this technology, I'll never forget bamboo
when we first launched the time.
You were in there when we launched it,
it was the ugliest three months of my business career.
Every day we were at the office to 130 in the morning
with customer service live zoom
with so many different things breaking with this.
And I kept telling my guys, be patient,
but I prepped everybody for six months,
not everything's gonna go perfectly well.
Be patient, be patient, be patient, be patient.
Boom, it's crazy.
We had three of our employees days to work here
and these guys were, I said,
listen, be patient, long time we're gonna do something big.
They're all die hard guys. We just announced that we wanna do something with Tucker, they used to work here. And these guys were, I said, listen, be patient, long time we're gonna do something big. They're all diehard guys.
We just announced that we wanna do something with Tucker.
They're all texting me saying, oh my God,
never thought that was the solution.
I said, well, you were impatient.
If you were patient, we told you division is really big.
When Tucker goes anywhere,
and the first month, two months, three months, six months,
is not working at the pace you wanted to be.
Be patient.
The relationship is both ways.
That organization's gotta figure out the kings, and you got to figure out the kings.
The benefit of going to a place like Fox, the benefit of going to a place like NBC, the
benefit of going to a place like CBS, or any of these places, guess what they have?
They have 600 employees that are overpaid that can go and work on one person's project,
50 people on one person's project, 50 people on one person's project. So, but if you go to an independent organization that is not a $12
billion company, $7 billion company, and they're coming up, they don't have those
resources yet. To the level of patience needs to be higher because the exchanges,
while you go to NBC, ABC mainstream, your muzzle, because you can't talk about
everything, because your biggest sponsor is Pfizer, over here you are not muzzles, you can talk about everything, but you
don't have the 600 employees and you've got to be kind of patient for this thing to develop.
But if the relationship with the users and the customers and the capital is the entrepreneur,
the talent is honest and sincere, long term we're going to win this what fight.
But it's not going to be just the talent in the company and not the involvement of the talent,
the what you call a defense,
and the audience getting involved as well.
This is gonna take a real teamwork effort
the next three, five, 10, 20 years
for us to win this fight.
And by the way, if there's ever been a fight worth fighting,
this is it.
I was looking at a book upstairs
shown to seven of our executives
about 10-year-olds,
what book they're getting on sex education.
I'm showing this clip,
and the book is sold millions,
on top of millions of copies in public schools,
they're shown positions on how two boys can have sex in school.
Two girls can have sex in school.
Then you have the missionary, which is a boy and a girl,
which is, you know, a 10 year old guy,
a 10 year old boy is gonna learn how to have sex
with another boy.
Listen, if there's ever been a time
that is gonna take everyone's effort,
we're just sitting around bitching and complaining about it,
it's not gonna mean anything, you gotta get involved.
You gotta support.
If you support a brand, if it's not us,
go support somebody, or support them.
If it's us, support us.
Collectively, 10, 20 years from them,
we're gonna look back and say, we did this together.
It's not gonna be a one-man show, it's not gonna to be a one-team show. It's going to be collective
effort with you and us doing it together. Without you, there is no value, Taman. Without you,
there's no PPD podcast. Without you, we don't have this media company. Without you, you and I don't
meet each other. Without you, we don't have all these people that are working here. This has been
collective. I'm grateful for you guys, but I just want to prep you. And I hope this kind of
made sense to some of you guys that are still watching this. I'm going to ask you for more. If you say,
Pa, we're going to do this, we kind of need to get to the next phase of, we're going to
need your help at the next level. You know, till today, I'll tell you one thing about
Vayetama. Tom, when we were building the insurance company, you know my salary, not when we
sold the company, but you know my salary when we were building insurance company. Was I ever the highest paid guy into company?
Absolutely.
No, you were not even in a top 10.
What was I paying myself salary?
You know you were part of the payroll.
Can you tell everybody what I was making?
Barely a hundred grand.
And by the way, a lot of that was benefits
because you got the medical package for your family.
Eventually my salary went up to 250, okay.
Salary. And then if the up to 250, okay, salary.
And then if the company did well,
I got something of the EBITDA,
5% of whatever the EBITDA was about $5 million of EBITDA.
So it's not like it's millions of dollars,
I'm getting another $100,000, $200,000,
$300,000 of bonus.
But it was based on growing the company.
I don't have any problem.
Till today, from vitamin day one, till today,
you know how much money I've taken off the table
from vitamin zero? I don't take a salary from this.
I don't take profits at the end of the year.
Everything's reinvested into Vietaemon because vision is real.
So when we're doing what we're doing,
I'm like, oh my god, I can't believe we have to pay that.
I can't believe we're not doing this
because I'm trying to go by another car.
I've made a good decision.
I've done well for myself financially,
where we've set aside a good amount of money,
and we sold insurance company.
This is a project of 40 years. I'm going 40 years with media with Vaytemin. Period.
I say this a long time ago and I'm saying it right now. I don't need another exit to become
financially free. We are going on a 40 year run. God willing, we're healthy. I'm 44. If
I live up to 84, thank you God. I've already lived an incredible life. The things I've
done, I'm very happy about it.
But the next 40 years, God willing,
we'll be able to compete in a market place.
And with guys like Tucker, one set of lifetime,
top of a guy, you know, you like the guy,
you wanna hear more of the guy,
you wanna hear his perspective,
you wanna hear what questions he's asking,
the way he goes in researches,
the way he interviews people, you know,
his charisma, his authenticity,
there's a lot of people that want to see this guy run.
There's people that are talking about why does not just
announce and go around for president.
Why don't you just go to run for office?
He may even just announce that I'm going to go around
for office.
You know what would happen?
What a shake-up it would be if he made that kind of announcement.
But what's the point?
The point is people are saying that because they would
like a guy like this to run the country.
If he chooses to do that great, if he chooses to join
a platform like ours great. If we chooses to do that great, if he chooses to join a platform like ours
great, if we're here, oh my God, I'll I can tell you this future looks bright.
Future looks bright. But no matter where he goes, we're gonna support the guy.
And you say that. I hope the people and thank you everybody that is supporting the
all you say, man. Thank you, Pat. I just have to say that off the rip. But first of all,
I don't think he should like 100% do percent do not do anything political pack is you sold it with
trump they're gonna one hundred percent go after him
as well what do you think tom if he runs for if he did anything political what
would happen to him
talker talker
talkers make more of a difference in the more of a candidate anybody
realizes he could be he could be tremendous
but i think his voice his talents look you know you look at who is talker i look at him he's be, he could be tremendous. But I think his voice, his talents, look, you know,
you look at who is Tucker.
I look at him.
He's an entrepreneur.
He created Daily Caller.
He's a producer.
He has an eye for content.
He's a voice and a personality of his own show.
He's also an author.
If you ever ever read Ship of Fools,
you should read Ship of Fools.
It's a great book.
Kind of funny too.
You step back and look at that.
You know why I recognize all that?
Because we're all that.
I mean, look at Pat.
Pat's a multi-time entrepreneur.
He's an author.
He's a producer of my gosh.
And he's his own voice and personality.
We understand that.
And we are that.
And so I look at all that and I kind of see,
I said, wow, Tucker is very much like us.
Could he be very well in political spirit?
Absolutely.
But I think he still has a voice, an opportunity, and he could take his time and talents and
really drive and service to America.
What we're talking about here.
Can I tell you selfishly where I'm at?
Let me tell you selfishly where I'm at.
Okay.
As a guy who wants to run with this guy, we'd love for him to be here
But I'm telling you if he ran
I'm
100% supported behind it because I think he would be the number two guy overnight
I agree with the number two guy overnight. I'd be right with you. That's for my champion
Yeah, number two guy overnight. So
purely support
I said this to Megan earlier Megan Megan's like, so what do you
think about the fact that the video just came out and the fact that he said this and he
said that and this video that was released and leaked by Fox and what are your thoughts
about this? You know what my answer was? I said, listen, you know what history tells us,
people who had the audacity to fight a fight against the bullies and bully the bully were
never perfect. They were not the people that you saw them, you're like, oh my God, what a fantastic this.
Now Churchill was able to do something Chamberlain couldn't do.
Okay, it's just period.
Eulissus as Grant was able to do something.
McClellan, who was all he wanted to do, is train, train, train, train, train, train,
train, train, train for Abraham Lincoln.
All he wanted to do was train. Constantly train the soldiers. Listen, train, train, train, train, train for, you know, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh get hold of him. Well, you'll hear that. Lincoln is furious because he can't hear back from Melissa's as grand.
When he hears from, guess what he says?
We want.
And guess what Melissa says grand was?
Drunk all this other stuff.
What happens to grand after Lincoln dies?
To turn president, okay?
So the point is we can go back and talk about
how, you know, so much of,
well, what about this and what about that and what about this? Listen, you know, we're looking for well, what about this? And what about that? And what about this?
Listen, you know, we're looking for somebody
who's a dog of a fighter.
When I say dog, I mean, a dog fight.
This guy's got the dog fight in him.
You know, it was the first time I fell on with the scum.
I'm like, I fucking like the sky.
Was when John Stuart came in to try to bully him
and I watched him.
Yeah, I mean, times I watched him.
You know how many times I watched him?
I watched him. I watched him. I watched him. I watched him. If, I mean, times I watched them. You know how many times I watched them? I watched a clip of Tucker.
You know how many times I watched a clip?
I mean, if I tell you 200 times, that's a low number.
Really?
Do you know, like for me in basketball,
I watch more post game interviews
than I watch the game.
I'm a post game interview guy.
I watched the other day, John Morant.
You lost.
What's your comment?
So, hey, John, what do you have to say about the fact
that I don't think about anybody in the West? Is there a way I have to deal with that?
You know what it is?
What it is?
Yeah, a weak answer.
Hey, Yannis, what do you consider this year a failure?
Eric.
You asked me the same question last year, okay?
When Stuart came in and he was a main guy and he tried to bully him, you just watch Tucker.
And I'm telling you, Tucker never forgot that.
And as much as John Peaked, Tucker took it all
to a whole different level.
It was a way of saying, look man, I'm not gonna get bullied.
It's very hard to find people like Tucker.
I don't, we've never had dinner together before.
We've never broken a burger. I'm not sitting here saying we're friends. Oh, you know, it was my body. don't we've never had dinner together before. We've never broken
bread. I'm not sitting here saying we're friends. Oh, you know, it's my body. Nope. I've never said
that. And I'm not here to say that because we've never had any kind of up onto this conversation
taking we've never had anything that has ever happened, right? Well, and I see guy like that,
that video took place with John trying to make you guys just you got to stop you're terrible you're this and he sees reaction and then all of a sudden he
see if he'm going from the bow tie to who he was and I hear you know under
shadow of all the people and then boom he's at the top listen I relate to
underdogs that guy was a underdog now he's at the top and he's got a good I
think he's got a good 10 to 15 year run of being on fire.
And his voice is needed every night.
People are asking where's this guy's voice.
So anyways, look, we want to do this live podcast
simply because there's a lot of questions that's being asked.
If you want to find out more about the story Rob,
if you can put the link below for people to go find it,
you can see the clip as well with me and Megan Kelly.
I actually really like the conversation
we had with Megan Kelly today.
Her showman, she's rockin, she just crossed a million subs.
She's doing, she's doing big things.
Congratulations Megan.
Obviously, she's, she's, she's always been,
she's always been one of the greatest to ever do it.
But Megan seems to be like, right now it's like you,
you're like, hey, she's like everywhere now.
Back at it like what she wants, you know, so,
she has fire.
I'm excited to see, I hope she becomes one of the moderators
for, you know, the election, because she see, I hope she becomes one of the motto Raiders for the election,
because she was very good when she was out there asking
questions.
Anyways, if you want to see that, put the link below as well,
the link to the article and the offers that we made,
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