PBD Podcast - EMERGENCY PODCAST: Tate's Arrest | PBD Podcast | Ep. 221

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Starting point is 00:00:25 Oh, we're going live right now. Yeah, so folks, emergency podcast. Yesterday, I tweeted about it asking if you guys won one. Everybody said yes, after what happened with the news yesterday with Tate's arrest, we came together, had a couple meetings, movable, which is good. And now here we are doing this live podcast. Meanwhile, I do want to start off with this

Starting point is 00:00:46 tweet. Just so everybody knows, this is a tweet that was posted by Andrew Tate just three hours ago at 5.30 a.m. and he said the matrix send their agents. And if you don't know yet, they got arrested last night, they got raided last night night and right after getting rated, you know, a bunch of different people, different Twitter spaces, a guy, Mario, Neftoll, I believe, who does a phenomenal job with these Twitter spaces. We were on, there was a bunch of few hundred thousand people on the Twitter space last night talking on this issue. And it was very, very interesting to see the two different sides

Starting point is 00:01:26 a group that was super happy that this took place and a group that was super devastated that this place anyways we can talk about that today on the podcast adam vinyne mleek aka robin house ballard you know what was your initial thought when you saw this at i don't think anybody was shocked because he's addressed these allegations prior. Even the interview we did with Tate, he was saying, yeah, they've attempted to conspire

Starting point is 00:01:57 against me the matrix, the system, and specifically he addressed human trafficking, sex trafficking. He addressed this, do you recall? Yeah. And he's like, I've never held a woman against her will, right? And this is sort of the knock on him. So the people, like I don't know how much Tate is worth. Allegedly, you know, he says hundreds of millions of billions. He has a good sense.

Starting point is 00:02:19 I mean, if you got a casino, you're doing what? I don't know his net worth. I have an inkling that it's a pretty high amount, but I think a lot of people think it's a lot higher than it actually is. Regardless, I think it's obviously a successful guy. It's no secret that he has made his money from doing Cam girls, video girls, web girls.

Starting point is 00:02:39 And he tells the story of, well, there's girls that work with me, and they make 10 grand a month, let's say. I take five, they take five. All right, so that's the split, 50, 50. If they try to go do it on their own, they go make $2,000 and they get to keep 100% of it. So what do you want to do, baby?

Starting point is 00:02:58 You want to come work for me, and I keep half the money, and you still make more money, or you want to go do it on your own. And essentially that was his business model. And I'm sure it did well. I mean, we've seen what happens with the rise of only fans and sex workers online. And by the way, there's nothing illegal about that, nothing as far as I know.

Starting point is 00:03:19 Where I think it gets into murky waters is, everything that goes with the Me Too movement, believe all women, it's like, all it takes is for like one girl to say one wrong thing and next thing, you know, everyone's believing it. So, here, I guess is my point. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, we're gonna go through a lot of different things.

Starting point is 00:03:39 Greta, we're gonna talk about the tweets, the stories, what happened, we're gonna read all of that. But that's what I learned is right there Pat. Don't mess with Greta Thumbna. She is an OG, first of all, I don't think it's her, but her first one was, you know, small dick, whatever.com. Today's tweet, she goes, that's what you get. We go through it, one last year, go through it.

Starting point is 00:03:59 Go show the tweet, go up a little bit. That's her first one, right? No, no, go, go. This is the very first tweet. Yeah, so hello Greta, I'm 33 cars. My Bug her first one, right? No, no, go, go. This is the very first tweet. Yeah. Okay. Hello, Greta. I'm 33 cars.

Starting point is 00:04:08 My Bugatti is this. My two Friars are this. This is just the start. Please provide your email address so I can send you a complete list of my car collection and their respective enormous emissions. But we'll look at how many likes it gets. Go a little more. It gets how many likes?

Starting point is 00:04:20 150 million views. Yeah. Look how many likes. 213,000. Oh my. Okay. But now watch the opposite side. Yeah, look how many likes, 213,000. Oh my God. But now watch the opposite side. Now gold, Greta's response. She says, yes, please do like me, email me

Starting point is 00:04:31 at smalldickenergiedgierterlife.com. Now see how many likes this one gets, go down. 3.4 million likes, 242 million views. Okay. You got them in there, that was kind of funny. Yeah, that is kind of funny. But by the way, I don't think that she's the one being like, got them, she's like a marketing champion.

Starting point is 00:04:46 She has the same thing that Trump, like remember we talked about last time, she has the same person that Trump had. No, no, no, no, I don't know about that. I think Trump is the owner. He's the marketer. I think she is getting help. There's a big difference.

Starting point is 00:04:56 He's a marketer for sure. Anyways, he responds back with a video. Do you guys see the video where he's like, hey, give me the pizza, make sure the boxes not recycled or whatever, you don't need to play it. But it's a very funny video. And he's just being detrolled that he is and having fun with her, very entertaining on what he does.

Starting point is 00:05:14 And then I believe she did another tweet this morning. If you wanna go to her tweet this morning, this is what happens when you don't recycle your pizza boxes. Come on. And this is just five and a half hours. I can see her writing that one. Yeah, that is for that. you think you think it's true? The whole path that that's how because I guess the Romanian police,

Starting point is 00:05:30 the authorities wanted to find out if he was in Romania and out of all things, the pizza box. Stop. I have a hard time. That's what I'm saying. He lives. What do you mean? He lives in Romania. This is not. No, but what what people are saying is they found him because of the pizza he ordered in Romania from a local pizza shop with the logo 25 or whatever it's on that. Jim and that's how they found you know him to go to his place. That's what they're saying. Yeah, that's what they're saying. Okay, but let's just unpack that. What does that? I mean, he we all know he lives at this compound in Romania.

Starting point is 00:06:05 Booker. Yes. He's very vocal about it. He lives there with his brother. He talks about it all the time. He's in the room. He films all his videos in. Yeah. It doesn't take a fucking pizza sleuth to figure that out. It's all I'm saying. He lives there. Yeah. Right. Talk about pizza game like home. He lives there. Well, here's my, here's my question. Do you guys think it was like a like they were just waiting? Because what I took away from this is like, there's only so many times that you could poke a bear it's just gonna turn around and bite your ass.

Starting point is 00:06:32 This is like an organized effort to be like, oh, we got him. And all dude, like you said, it takes one girl and mind you. All it takes is one girl for the matrix people to get to and say, listen, we're gonna give you some money. Can you just, yeah, you hung out with them, just say this and he's going down. No, can we read?

Starting point is 00:06:48 Can we read the story? If you want to pull up the story, just to read it and then a news just dropped right now from Yahoo, PA Media, I'll text you as well to read. Uh, but let's read the first story that was broke. No, the first story that broke. Yeah, I'm going to read it. Yeah, go for it. But let's read the first story that was brought, no, the first story that broke, yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:03 Want me to read it? Yeah, go for it. Andrew Tater arrested in police raid as part of human trafficking investigation. Controversial kickboxer Andrew Tater and his younger brother Tristan, he also was arrested by the way. We're handcuffed and led away by Romanian police

Starting point is 00:07:17 following a raid on their luxury villa on Thursday. Controversial kickboxer and social media is arrested. Romania's suspicion of human trafficking, rape and forming an organized crime group. A handcuffed Tate 36 who rose to famous here for sexist and misogynistic views. You see what they're doing out there? Of course, was film being led out from his luxury villa

Starting point is 00:07:38 by police following a raid on Thursday, his younger brother Tristan 34 was also arrested, along with two other suspects, so there's four in total being held for 24 hours in book rest, and I think that's where we pick up. They've been held for 24 hours, and I believe he's out now. Yeah, well, do you have the clip, I sent you? Play the clip of him.

Starting point is 00:07:59 If you have the clip, I'm him getting arrested, play that first, and then go play the clip of him getting out. So play the clip of him getting arrested. Let's see if you have it. You have it clip on him getting arrested, play that first and then go play the clip of him getting out. So play the clip of him getting arrested. Let's see if you have it. You have it somewhere on here. There you go. Okay. Turn on the audio.

Starting point is 00:08:15 Yeah, there you go. Oh, they really set this up. Yeah. So SWAT came in essentially that's the remaining version of SWAT. And he wasn't handcuffed, by the way. I don't know if they have handcuffs in Romania. I think he wasn't. No, he wasn't.

Starting point is 00:08:32 The brother was definitely handcuffed doing the whole trying. The power of V. Yeah, he had to come out with the power. That's your move, any? Yeah. OK. Here you go. Well. I'm going to go.

Starting point is 00:08:47 Nice gun. Mid evil weapons, shit at the house. Okay, now play the one of them getting out this morning. By the way, when he was getting arrested, I only heard him say one thing. I was giving lead into the car. He said, the matrix sent their agents. Yeah, that's crazy. That's it. And said, that's it.

Starting point is 00:09:26 And that's him right there. So that's the next one of them getting out. Okay, so let me, let me, if you can go to Twitter, go to my, the last tweet I posted. So yesterday, while this is going on, we're in meetings. I'm doing Zoom, I'm doing a bunch of different things. People are texting me, your boy got down. You know, your boy, they took him down. They all just, I'm like, listen, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going.

Starting point is 00:09:52 One more, one more, one more, one, right there. Click on that one, right there. Click on that one. Zoom in a little bit. Okay. I said, don't know exactly the details of Tate's arrest, but here's what I do know. A day after he publicly calls out one of Wokes Heroes, Greta Thunberg, they rate his place, strange timing. Meanwhile, we haven't seen anyone from Epstein's list arrested.

Starting point is 00:10:12 Strange. Now go to the bottom. At the bottom, I say, he's loud, he pushes the envelope, he frustrates the left, he points at hypocrisy, he's duplicating young men to do the same, having said that if they committed a crime, the proper agencies will do what they need to do. Till then, innocent till proven guilty.

Starting point is 00:10:33 So then I get invited on this Twitter spaces with again, the guy Mario Nufal. I think he does a fantastic job as a host. And I'm on there. And he says, so Patrick, you've interviewed with them, you've spent many hours with them, how is he? How is he on camera? How is he off camera?

Starting point is 00:10:50 I said, quite frankly, I like them more off camera than on camera and I like them on camera. I just like them more off camera. I would agree. He says, so what do you have to say about all the stuff that's coming out? I said, here's a couple things you have to be very careful with. First thing you have to be very careful with is, I said, as a father, any time the school calls me telling me what my son did wrong, my natural inclination is to say what? My son would never do something.

Starting point is 00:11:14 Exactly. Until I talk to him, I'm like, oh, shoot. Yeah, you did not do that. Yeah, I know how you do that. And by the way, you know, it ought to be that way. You know, parents ought to, you know, have a certain level of loyalty and belief in their kids. You know, if I get a call from somebody saying, what you did something and I'm getting a call

Starting point is 00:11:34 and I'm talking to the person, you're not gonna have a conversation and then I'm gonna sit there and say, listen, you know, it is what it is, let's wait to see what's going on. Regardless of what it is, we have to know two things. Both can be right. One, I was going to a Bible study years ago when I'm an atheist, and this guy's trying to convert me.

Starting point is 00:11:50 I'm like, listen, you're not gonna do it. 25 years I've been an atheist. You think you can convert me. And I told him, I said, look, I've been to churches. I've seen pastors do this. I've seen pastors take advantage of members, ripped them off with money, marriages, what they were doing on the site, smoking.

Starting point is 00:12:04 We doing drugs, having sex, and then they're claiming up, marriages, what they were doing on the side, smoking, we doing drugs, having sex, and then they're claiming up there on stage that they're so mighty. He says, here's a rule number one about if you want to have a relationship with the man upstairs. If it's horizontal, you'll always be disappointed. If it's vertical, you'll never be disappointed. I said, explain that to me.

Starting point is 00:12:21 He says, people are going to let you down. Okay? Everybody is. You've let down your kids. You've let down your kids. You've let down your parents. You've let me not that time, I don't have kids, but he's saying you've let down your parents. You know, your parents have let you down. Your sisters let you down.

Starting point is 00:12:33 You've let her down. Your friends, all this stuff. None of us walk on water. Okay, I just hope you don't make the big mistakes, but we don't walk on water. We all make mistakes. Don't be surprised if a hero disappoints you. That's one. So years after that, I'm working at

Starting point is 00:12:50 this church. This one is Syrian guy comes to me. They want to create an Assyrian part of this church. I won't mention the guy's name. And he says, man, I will kiss the pastor's feet. He's dead. He's dead. He's saying this in front of 30 Assyrians in this one guy, so I was Wilson. And I said, listen, never, ever put that much pressure on a man to be perfect., he's saying this in front of 30, his serenance and this one guy, he's housed Wilson. And I said, listen, never ever put that much pressure on a man to be perfect. Cause he's gonna fall, never give that much love

Starting point is 00:13:12 and attention and accolades to human being. Give him love, give him respect. But you're talking as if he's got and he can't make any mistakes. He says he can't, he's never gonna make mistakes. I said, listen, I don't want that kind of pressure. And I said, I can't help you guys out with this request that you have.

Starting point is 00:13:27 Bring it to today, okay? You know, you have to know the people who really support this guy, they don't think he can do anything wrong. And that's unfair to him. And it's managing too much expectations for yourself. The other side, the people who can't stand like on yesterday's Twitter spaces, one Romanian lawyer got on.

Starting point is 00:13:48 He says, they're not gonna let him be bailed out. He's not gonna get out. They're probably gonna do 15 to 20 years. And another guy comes and he should go to jail. And another, you should go to jail. He's gonna go to jail. Do you realize what he did? This is unfair.

Starting point is 00:14:00 All this stuff that they're saying about what's going on with this, right? People by the end of yesterday's Twitter spaces Everybody said this guy's going to Jill for 15 to 20 years. Okay, so they believe they believe these are Romanian lawyer got on. Oh wow a Romanian lawyer got on and said hey, here's what's going on? The Romanian lawyer also says something. I was pretty Fascinating, but the people who don't like him Let's not get it twisted.

Starting point is 00:14:25 A girl yesterday tweets at me, some comedian Nicole something, I don't even know what her last name is, but she tweets at me and she says, you're, you're this and you're dad, you're exactly this as a listen. The difference between me and you is your emotional and your speak, speak in factual, like this is going to happen. I'm being logical and paranoid. That's the only difference. I said, you're doing this, you're doing that. Okay? And, you know, so the people that are happy that he got arrested, you know what crowd they're a part of,

Starting point is 00:14:54 you know, why, you know, they're celebrating whatever they're celebrating. Having said that, let's set that aside. Let's set those two aside. This is the most important point to be thinking about. Okay? This is the most important point to be thinking about. If he committed to crime, he committed to crime, okay? I don't know all the rules and regulations. I don't know, you know, Cardone got on and he says, well, I don't know anybody that does all the right business and has six different

Starting point is 00:15:18 passports. Why do you need to have six different passports and et cetera, et cetera, okay? It's a valid point. Why do you need a six different passports? Maybe that's normal in Europe. Maybe that's how he gets around. Maybe it's a valuable thing to have passports. I know billionaires that have multiple passports. Maybe not six, but I do know people that have two or three passports. In that area, it's actually very normal for somebody to have multiple passports. Not so subtly addressed the fact that his father may or may not have worked for the CIA. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, but here's a part, man. We were doing a video a month ago in generational wealth. Remember when the whole thing was done by generational wealth,

Starting point is 00:15:55 generational wealth. One of the things we realized is the Vanderbilt's lost their wealth. They were the richest people in the world. They lost their wealth within two generations. Think about that. Your worth a few hundred world, they lost their wealth within two generations. Think about that. Your worth, a few hundred billion dollars, the money's lost within two generations. But the Medici family and the Rothschild family has kept the wealth and the power for many, many years. You know what, rule those guys follow?

Starting point is 00:16:17 One basic rule, don't be loud. Do not be loud. Don't call out the establishment. Don't be too opinionated. Stay low key. Keep a low profile. You don't see a Rothschild getting on TV, giving their opinions, running a podcast. You don't see a Medici family running the top podcasts in the world. Now Having said that the Medici and the Rothschild is playing a different game. They're in they're indirectly part of the establishment of course because they are by Global elites, exactly. The definition so have the global elites, the definition of the global. So for, for Tate, to go out and you keep calling out the heroes of the left over and over

Starting point is 00:16:57 and over and over again, you're taking the ultimate, ultimate risk. This means the speed to start them is very, very quickly, but the fall could also be very, very quickly by these guys trying to manipulate and take you down. FYI, one of the corruptest countries in the world is Romania. You know how many people message me yesterday from Romania?

Starting point is 00:17:16 Listen, this place is corrupt. That lawyer on the Twitter spaces yesterday said the following. He said everything in Romania is about money, everything. So if you wanna buy them out to get out, you can do it. If other countries wanna buy Romania, they can do it. If other countries want to call Romania to say, hey man, you guys gotta get this thing scored away.

Starting point is 00:17:36 Or else, we're not giving you the support or we're not gonna give you this, you have to do it. Because Romania, who's Romania? You use it atop 20 empire, empire is at the top? 50 empire? Nobody thinks about Romania as one of the most powerful empires in the world that everybody wants to have a relationship with. Yeah, this ain't Rome.

Starting point is 00:17:52 No, this is definitely not Rome. Romania. So meaning if a place like Romania can be bought to take a guy like this down, that is very possible. Not saying that's what happened. That's very possible. Then last but not least, I get a message this morning from a guy that's very, very connected in the,

Starting point is 00:18:12 the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the word I'm looking for. He's very connected in law and, um, FBI, PD, you know, all of the Department of Justice, extremely qualified. I don't want to give exactly what his job is, because you know who it is. Okay. He said the following, I saw the Department of Justice, extremely qualified. I don't want to give exactly what his job is, because you know who it is. He said the following, I saw the interviews last night.

Starting point is 00:18:28 Keep this in mind, if you talk to him, they have to have probable cause to do these warrants. The excuse that somebody made a complaint and anonymous complaint at that, and they sent a SWAT team to his house as bullshit. Even though it's Romania, they still have laws in the U.S. Embassy, and the U.S. Embassy was involved. I think the embassy put them up to it. He needs to find out where to hell and complain from there. Anyways, meaning he's trying to say, it's all, they all work together.

Starting point is 00:19:05 Meaning this is not accidental or to do the warrant. Maybe there is a probable cause for it, but also at the same time, US Embassy was involved to go in and take in them down. So it's a very strange situation going on with this year. So it's not just the one-sided story. There's a lot of different sides to it. But everybody jumped to conclusions, celebrating this guy getting arrested. It was like there.

Starting point is 00:19:31 New years came five days before, three days before with this guy getting arrested. It was, and it's weird, and that guy, he reminds you of Pat, like John Gotti, when he was out, and everybody was telling him, all the Consulities, they were all like, listen, you're poking at the wrong, he's like, shut up. He's like, we're not supposed to be out. You know, it's a secret thing, you know what I mean? Like, he's exactly that situation with him. It's like, you poke that, you poke that, just kind of disappear.

Starting point is 00:19:56 You can't keep, you know, you can't keep messing with governments and they're not gonna come after your ass. That's, this is a prime example of the same shit with God. A couple thoughts. A famous story that I always revisit with you that you said, I don't know who you were meeting with, you were meeting with some billionaire and you had a business idea for this billionaire. And I think condescendingly but also affectionately, it was like, Pat, there's two types of people in this world. There's the person who's trying to make their first billion and the person that's trying to make their first billion

Starting point is 00:20:25 and the person that's already made their billions. The difference between us is I'm just trying to keep my money. AKA the Medici's, the Rothschild, these types of people. You're the first type of person. Good luck on your endeavors. I'm gonna keep doing me. Essentially investing in stocks or investing in bonds, essentially if you wanna put it that way.

Starting point is 00:20:43 Let's not forget, nobody knew Tate one year ago. Unless you're a kickboxer guy, nobody knew Tate whatsoever. He's essentially working on his first billion, if you know what I mean. So in today's society, whether you're good, bad, up or down, it's all about views, it's all about eyeballs,

Starting point is 00:21:03 it's all about status. So he's trying to make a name for himself. The problem is what this is kind of akin to is like we all read Greek mythology as a kid, Icarus, you know, he flew a little too close to the sun, and he got burned. Regarding, I think Romania, if I may address that, I had a conversation with a buddy who lives in Colombia.

Starting point is 00:21:26 He was, we were hanging out yesterday. I go, hey, listen, what happened to innocent until proven guilty? He goes, South, you live in America. That's a real sweet idea. In Colombia, it's guilty until proven innocent. Like he told the story of a buddy who got his house taken away from the government and it's taken 10 years of legal nonsense to try to get his house back to these entitles too. So I don't know the framework in Romania, but something tells me in corrupt countries, you can kind of just do what you want to do. Yeah, bro, money talks. The one thing I will say about Romania, do you think this is a good look or a bad look for the country of Romania? I would argue that nobody has done more to help tourism and to make Romania popular as it is now than take.

Starting point is 00:22:13 If take didn't live in Romania. If you live in Croatia, if you lived in Serbia, if you lived in somewhere in Russia, nobody would be talking about Romania. Of course. And he's said only good things about Romania. I come here, it's a Christian country. Yes, it's corrupt, but everywhere it's corrupt. This difference is you can pay people off here.

Starting point is 00:22:33 I, there's nice people, nice women. Like, it's like almost done the exact same thing that Borat did for Kazakhstan. Nobody know the Kazakhstan before, but the difference is, Borat kind of, like, in Kazakhstan. Yeah. Taked good things for Romani. We're talking about Romani.

Starting point is 00:22:52 Bro, he has a casino though. You know much money, the taxes that they're going to get for the country. Are you crazy, bro? Yeah. So he's, I don't know. Look, here's what I actually want to say. You talked about like the people that love tape, they're coming to his defense, the people that hate tape

Starting point is 00:23:08 are just jumping on it. By the way, now, whether it's me, whether it's you, whether it's anybody out there listening, now is the easiest time ever to shit on tape. To pile on tape. I knew it. He's a scumbag. But now is actually where you show conviction and actually show friendship and actually show someone, you know what, you respect.

Starting point is 00:23:32 So for me, I'm not believing any of this nonsense. I'm gonna stand by my innocent until proven guilty. And we've had a great time with Tate. I have nothing but good things to say about Tate. Are there going to be some things we disagree upon? Sure. Yeah. I disagree with you. We're one of my best friends. Yeah. Same with Pat. But I'm not believing any of this nonsense. I again, innocent until proven guilt. Pull up the story. I just

Starting point is 00:23:56 texted you Rob. Let's read that Reuter story that just came out an hour ago. I agree with you Adam. Push for sure. So the. By the way, one other very credible lady got on yesterday saying what's her name? Liza, Aliza, something like that. Okay, let me read the article that I'll tell you what she said. Ex-kickboxer, Andru, T. Dittema, Ruminian, Rape, and Human Traffic case. Okay, go down. All right, so Romanian prosecutors as a book arrest court on Friday to extend detention

Starting point is 00:24:23 on Dendritate 30 days After the divisive in-in a personality was a resident suspicion human trafficking Or a criminal's Tate a former kickboxer and his brother Tate. Okay, got that and anti organized crime prosecutors Have notified the rights and liberties judge with the book arrest court with the proposal to remand The four suspects for 30 days the brothers declined to comment on Thursday, but I lower you confirmed they had been detained. Prosecutors said the Tate brothers have been under criminal investigation since April. The four suspects appeared to have created

Starting point is 00:24:54 an organized crime group with the purpose of recruiting, housing, and exploiting women by forcing them to create pornographic content meant to be seen on specialized websites for cost go a little lower keep going keep going keep going. Prosecutors said they would have gained the important sums of money. Prosecutors said they found six women who had been sexually exploited by the suspects Tategained, Nautoriety for misogynistic comments and hate speech. He said the women are partially responsible for being raped and they belonged to men.

Starting point is 00:25:28 A number of social media platforms, band Tate, including Twitter, but his account here, became active. Again, November after the platform was taken over by Elon Musk. In one of his tweets, following his return to platform, said he was flying to California to tell Musk, he was a legend. Tate appeared to have sent a tweet on Friday

Starting point is 00:25:44 suggesting get access to his phone and social media while in custody. Early this week, the British national was told to get a life by climate activist Greta Thunberg on Twitter. Okay, we know that whole story how this thing takes place. But so there are six, so one of these girls who was on the Twitter spaces yesterday, said the following. She says, look, you have to keep in mind

Starting point is 00:26:08 that I've been dealing with one of the individuals that's making these claims women, that's making these claims since summer about that she was taking advantage of. And I've been working with her since April or May, this lady said, I can't give you all the details. I can't say anything, I can't do this, I can't do that because I'm representing her,

Starting point is 00:26:34 I'm helping her out, but this is real. They have been doing this. And the phrase that was constantly being used yesterday is the following phrase called the lover boy allegation. I don't know if you're familiar with the lover boy allegation. Pull up lover boy allegation. Type in lover boy allegation, which lover boy human, okay, right there. That's the first one. Yeah, okay. So zoom in so we can read it in. So lover boys or Romeo pimps are human traffickers who usually operate by trying to make young girls or boys fall in love with them

Starting point is 00:27:07 Sometimes they manipulate young people in other ways Once they have victims under their influence. They exploit them for instance in sex industry lover boy method Changing due to internet and social media traditionally lover boys seduces young vulnerable girls and boys over a lengthy period of time in order to exploit them sexually. Later on, this practice is being used less and less. Nowadays, lover boys resort more quickly and frequently to threatening their victims using blackmail and violence. The internet and social media are playing an increasing role in this phenomenon. For instance, social media provides a lover boys with much greater scope for establishing contact

Starting point is 00:27:42 with victims and gathering information about vulnerable boys and girls. This makes it easier for them to force their young victims into the sex industry. So that is the methodology they're saying they used. Yeah, well, if I may, the definitely, like, like, listen, I go out and sell pizza. I have friends who are good looking dudes, lover boys, like Pamp type dudes. What they're describing are sociopaths and criminals. Yeah. Okay, since when is being a good looking, swav methodical dude a bad thing?

Starting point is 00:28:15 I think that's actually a good thing. So they're kind of copying and pasting and a nice name over actually a very criminal intent of type of description. So I don't know, this is a lover boy thing. And you guys seen, have you gone on anything that Dan Blasarian's doing? It's going to since it's going. It's Dan Blasarian Pat with like 50 of the hottest,

Starting point is 00:28:40 and he's just in the back chilling. They, he just lover boy. Lover boy. I mean, like obviously, I'm not sure. These girls are getting the notoriety there with them. They're on Instagram. All these girls have a massive following everywhere. Everybody's getting paid.

Starting point is 00:28:52 He's the, like Adam said, love her boy. He's the playboy. And it's an image. But like I said, Pat, it's all, I'm not a conspiracy guy, but it's all kahoot. If the US Embassy's involved and they go, bro, go in there, get the cameras, record it. Am I true?

Starting point is 00:29:08 When this hit Pat, it hit every, all my notifications, I mean, me, me the rule, because obviously we can go to exceptions. If you're Dan Bilzerium, if you're Andrew Tate, for example, if you're Leonardo DiCaprio, if you're Matthew McConaughey, you're George Clooney, you don't need a resort to this type of fucking nonsense. You have girls throwing themselves at you. You don't need to induce, you don't need a drug,

Starting point is 00:29:40 you don't need to manipulate, you get what you want. Now, the exceptions, you fucking scumbag, like Bill Cosby or Harvey Weinstein, those are the exceptions. But if you're an exceptional dude or you're a high-dude man of status, you don't need to resort to these types of measures. It's just something you don't need to do as a dude.

Starting point is 00:29:57 The worst dudes out there, the guys that can't get laid, they get no attention from girls, got nothing going on for them. Those are the sociopaths that you need to look out for. Those are the rapists, those are the criminals. I'm not buying this bullshit. I mean, in the beauty, like you said is, he's lucky that it is Romania.

Starting point is 00:30:13 And dude, he has money, bro. He's not gonna go to jail for, I don't think he's gonna go to jail at all. None of them. But that's a problem, because I know Pat here, the Rico thing with that Juliana and them did, is that now think about this. If he has somebody in his crew that was being shady, does he get in trouble?

Starting point is 00:30:29 So, so what they're, what they're one of the things, you guys said a lot of different things to your someone. I'm sure we addressed this lover boy. Hugh Hefner was a lover boy. Exactly. Number one. He's the ultimate lover boy guy. And you don't, you don't think he had accusations?

Starting point is 00:30:40 Well, he had women still to this day accusing him of like holding them hostage. He did, but the only difference is he didn't call out climate change. He didn't call out the left. He didn't call out any of this stuff. So there's a there's a rule of thumb. If you go after the establishment, be ready. If you go after the establishment, be ready, especially the louder you are. By the way, there are only a few people loud enough to go after the establishment.

Starting point is 00:31:05 One of the guys today that's super loud is number one is Musk and Tates in the top 10 of the loudest against establishment. We know what happened when Trump and after the establishment. We're seeing what's going on with Musk and after the establishment. We're seeing what he went after the establishment.

Starting point is 00:31:19 Those are a couple things you gotta be careful with. Here's a part about what you just said. One of the claims is what they're trying to do, okay? Is, you know how a lot of times like, well, how come he doesn't come to US? I don't wanna come to US, I don't wanna come to US, I don't wanna come to US. One of the claims that one of the lawyers made

Starting point is 00:31:39 is they're trying to use this to bring him to US courts, to get him to be seen guilty. This is an outcome of trying to bring him to US courts to get him to be seen guilty. This is an outcome of trying to bring him here, to bring him here and have the US courts hold him accountable. Because who's he calling out? If you were to take out of the 196 countries or so that we have, give or take, what country does he call out the most? US. Is there even a Western country does it call out the most? US.

Starting point is 00:32:05 Is there even a Western society, Western culture, global society, yeah. So society is the first, 100% tree he calls out, non-stop, he's constantly calling out. Okay. And what's he calling out about the Western society? Like making men and like making a stall. And he says, basically saying that,

Starting point is 00:32:22 you know, when you want to come and let's say, take over a country, you've got to take the men, get the men out, make them feminine, and that it, that it, and he's just calling out all the walkshit. Who, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the got I've never gotten the M's like this you piece of shit You die you might as well die in the same notes. You know, you know You know, I can't believe you said this and I can't believe you said that to me. That's not triple You know typical protocol where people message me and stuff like that, but to defend him He's that much of a trigger to the left because Greta

Starting point is 00:33:03 Don't forget that that post that tweet by her got a couple hundred million views on Twitter and this is under Musk. I think I got a couple hundred million views under Twitter. What does that tell you? She's got a following. Of course.

Starting point is 00:33:15 She's got influence. People actually want to sit there and believe that she's right. And by the way, thank God she's 19 years old because some people who come back and said, you're going after minor, but she's 19 years old. So it's not like she's a, we all know she's 19 years old because some people who come back and said, you're going after a minor, but she's 19 years old, so it's not like she's a, we all know her as 12 years old or 15 years old.

Starting point is 00:33:30 She's no longer 15 years old. She's 19 years old today. So yeah, they're trying to bring them to the states to, that's what a lot of people said. They're trying to bring them out here, but we'll see. Here's where I think Tate message gets lost in translation. So when we sat with him, I said, what's the number one reason you thought you were canceled?

Starting point is 00:33:46 He goes, I already know. I already know, because I asked him, is it masculinity? Is it toxic masculinity? Shoveannism, is it calling out the system? Is it calling out the matrix? Is it male self-improvement? He's like, I already know.

Starting point is 00:33:56 The reason I got canceled is because I call out the establishment, I call out the matrix. They don't want to hear what I have to say. But if you talk about takes messaging, I believe there's three major themes that he talks about. So number one is he's called Out the Matrix and the system and everything in the global elite that comes with that.

Starting point is 00:34:14 Cool, fair, we just addressed that. Number two is what he's labeled as a misogynist or a showvonist and toxic masculinity. And that's kind of how he's labeled. Like if you look at any article out there any headline it's male chauvinist and you take you know toxic masculinity and you take and that's kind of what he's framed as but if you actually Peel back the onion and you actually listen to what Tate saying and not taking a little sound bites All he's talking about at the end of the day is male self-improvement.

Starting point is 00:34:47 And that's essentially everything that we stand for here at Value Tame. That's everything that I talk about here is no matter what you're doing in life as a man, there's always room for self-improvement. Personal responsibility being positive, whether that's being stronger, faster, cooler, wealthier, doper or sexier, everything is about status. Okay, so when it comes to self-improvement, here I'm gonna go on a little rant for a sec, the number one thing that a man can have is status. There's three types of status that a man can reach.

Starting point is 00:35:19 There's number one wealth, okay, and everything that comes with wealth, money, success, ambition, your network, everything that you collect resources, that's number one part of status. Number two is attractiveness as a man status. So meaning you're good looking, you're in shape, you're your, your, your swab, you, you dress well, like Jordan Peterson talks about dressing in suits and looking like a man. So that is attractiveness. Women obviously like dudes with six packs and mostly like that's part of that. And then the third one is having game. Now everyone, there's different types of game out there.

Starting point is 00:35:51 They can approve your status. So whether it's your funny, your comedian, your clever, your witty, your romantic, your kind, whatever it is, that's your game. Now here's the deal. If you're in the top 10% of any of those three categories, you will get women and women will come to you. What do I mean?

Starting point is 00:36:10 If you've got a ton of money, I don't care if you look like Jeff Bezos. Women are gonna be attracted to. Number two, if you're an attractive guy, you're in shape, you're a good-looking dude. Like that's done. No matter how much money you have, you're gonna get women.

Starting point is 00:36:24 If you've got game, whether you're a funny comedian or whether you're a swob dude or a romantic, whatever it is, whatever your skill set is, if you're in the top 10% of any of those three categories, you'll get women. Now, to put this all together, like David would do, he would say, keep working on all three. Make your money, work your ass out,

Starting point is 00:36:43 improve your game, learn how to talk to women, you know, famously in the Red Pill community, he's a part of it's money, muscles, game, and hold frame. So again, back to my initial point, yes, he talks about the system and he talks about people label him as a misogynist and a toxic masculinity. But the end of the day, I think the reason that he's resonated with so many dudes, he's like, nobody's coming to save you, bro. Nobody's walking in this door. You need to do it yourself.

Starting point is 00:37:11 Keep improving. Keep working. Outwork, outstratigize, out and prove outlast. And that's his messaging. But nobody wants to talk about that. So yeah, it is his messaging. But at the same time, by the by the Elon Musk just tweeted something right now I'll pull it up

Starting point is 00:37:26 He just said if what if I told you the only way to escape the matrix is to unlearn everything that you have been taught and Rebuild your entire belief system based on critical thought and analysis and it's a picture from the matrix He just posted this 10 minutes ago. So what's he saying is he kind of following what's going on? Is he kind of following the stories of what's going on? I do want to show something about what Cardi B said yesterday. Pull up the tweet about Cardi B. But by the way, while we're talking about the Matrix, do you know who the number one most viral person in the world could be if he wanted to take the mantle? Counter-reef. Yeah. Of course. With everything that we're talking about, the system and the Matrix and Red Pill and Blue Pill if Counter-Ede said listen, I'm not doing John Wick anymore. I don't know whatever movies. I don't watch

Starting point is 00:38:09 movies. Bill and Ted's bogus adventure part four. If he's like, oh, you want to talk about the Matrix, let me tell you something. Yeah. Yeah. Kiano Reef's would be the most searched man in the world. So this is what Cardi B just said yesterday. She said well, well, well, you know, about Andrew Tate and his brother being arrested, right? Cardbee now here's here's a crazy part while she's saying this okay here's a crazy part while she's saying this rap pull up this article from CNN I just sent you hardy be pull up the article from see I just literally I just texted it to you pull that one up I love what you said about cardibee yeah I will talk about that but I want you to see this here real quick right after what she just said. So this is a story from CNN,

Starting point is 00:38:46 Cardi B admits to drugging Robin Man years ago. Admit it. Admit it. Admit it. So do you have the whole story? Do you have the whole story to click on it? Like the one I sent you or? Cause this is the one where she's admitting

Starting point is 00:39:01 when she was stripping that she would literally take guys out, drug them, drug them, and then rob the shit out of them. And you have no idea, as he's looking for a pet, I posted something about this. You should see the people coming after me on Instagram where they were like, hey, you weren't in her life, you don't know what she was going through in that moment. I go, what the hell?

Starting point is 00:39:22 You don't know what it's like to be a stripper. Yeah, yeah, not even that. And then Pat just recently, she was going through in that moment. I go, what the hell? I don't know what it's like to be a stripper. Yeah, yeah, not even that. And then Pat just recently, she does a video in her car. She's like, guess what? If my man cheats on me, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm like, I'm gonna grab a girl. We're gonna take him out. I'm gonna get him all drugs on, I'm percussed.

Starting point is 00:39:37 We're gonna go and have a threesome, but she's not gonna be a girl. It's gonna be a guy, a trainee. And then guess what? Ha ha, we got you. This is Cardi B. This is her. Yeah, it's not just a drug that robbed me. So go a little closer today, Cardi B took on Instagram to contextualize and express

Starting point is 00:39:52 regret for claims she made in a video from three years ago in a resurface Instagram live video, the rapper claimed that during her days, as a stripper, she lured men to hotel rooms for sex, but then drug them and rob them instead. I'm a part of hip- hop culture where you can talk about where you came from, talk about the wrong things you've done. And where you are, she wrote in a note on Instagram and it's true, she hardly, the first rapper had to have a criminal pass, that, that, that,

Starting point is 00:40:15 there are rappers that glorify more the violence, drugs and robbing crimes. They feel they had to do to survive. I never glorified the things I brought up in the life, in that life. I never put up those things in music because I'm not proud of it and felt responsibly not to glorify it. I mean, there was a movie made about her, by the way. Really? You guys, the J-Lo played. You don't remember the movie that J-Lo played two years ago. Yeah, hustle. So she was saying that. She said it. She's in the

Starting point is 00:40:39 movie and partly that's her story. It's partly her story. But here's the thing. Cardi B, no one is saying that, you know, the hip-hop culture, the past, we don't understand, we all listen to the similar type of hip-hop music. All people are saying is the following. You don't earn the right to say this because you're a hypocrite. That's the only reason.

Starting point is 00:41:02 Nothing more, nothing less. You sound like a hypocrite as if somebody that walked on water and you got up to where you are today by playing some of those games, if not worse, and you admit it to it. This man's being accused of it. Now, whether he did it or not, the courts are gonna do their part.

Starting point is 00:41:16 But this is where you lose some credibility when you're saying what you're saying. Well, one of the major messages that Tate talks about is this new wave feminism. Okay. So I think we can all agree that I mean there's been like three waves of feminism. It was the first wave feminism where women suffrage right to vote. Of course, we wouldn't want that.

Starting point is 00:41:35 Second wave feminism is right to work, be in the workplace and I get sexually harassed. Totally makes sense. This new wave, third wave feminism, I'm a boss babe, like I don't need no man, like the Cardi B Wap whole situation. Well, I mean, he calls these people out left and right. Yeah. And that there's no wonder that the Cardi Bs of the world, yeah, I don't know if that article was a misspelling,

Starting point is 00:42:01 that instead of rapper, it actually wrote raper because what she's done in her past. But he's calling out these high body count, ho ass slutty women who are being apposalized by new woke feminists. Like, I can have sex with as many men as I want. There's new repercussions for my actions. I can do what I want to do.

Starting point is 00:42:21 It's like, these are the examples that they're setting for women today. Of course, it's the same as those overly morbidly obese people, like Lizzo. They're like, she's a hero. Yeah. She has courage. Lizzo's 400 pounds. Yeah, she's literally just got diabetes. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:42:37 Yeah, and then, and then the goes to my other point too, it's like, Pat, mind you, this is Cardi B. And this has been out for a long, long time. She's the same girl that sat down with Joe Biden. They interviewed like, they were like, you know what, let's use her to get votes. They don't give a shit, just like Bernie Sanders too. Think about this, Bernie Sanders and the president of the United States

Starting point is 00:42:59 sat down and had a real one on one with Cardi B, an openly druging, if there's any guys out there that were drug the Ray Bar, come forward because if she did it for you, come say some, believe all men. Believe all drug men. Like, they use her, think about it, they use her to get the minority vote and they don't give a shit, she doesn't give a damn.

Starting point is 00:43:18 Hip-Hit. Yeah, look, to me, you did what she did, you made your money. You know, the mindset of a libertarian is did what she did. You made your money, you know, just as the mindset of a libertarian is do what you gotta do to make your money. Don't break the law. Don't do anything to make your money, but she made her money breaking the law.

Starting point is 00:43:33 Any of that stuff, if she got caught doing that, that is a rape that you're taking advantage of. Not necessarily rape. That's called robbery. You're stealing money from people. Yeah. You could go to jail for that, but she's forgiven. So again, all of this goes back to a guy called out the BS on the establishment,

Starting point is 00:43:50 and they're not happy about it. And they got to take them down. It's that simple. There's calls that are saying this guy's getting louder and louder and louder. Stop him now before he gets more momentum. Here's a kicker. Okay. Here's a kicker.

Starting point is 00:44:02 Let's, let's look at some options. Let's look at some, some things that people are saying is going on. One, some are saying, what if this whole thing was a setup because this guy's doing it intentionally, no one's the amount of eyeballs he's gonna be getting? What if this whole thing was a publicity stunt? Like, I don't know if you guys saw three days ago,

Starting point is 00:44:19 Pierce Morgan's Twitter account came out and said, Andrew Tate just died. Did you see this or no? Okay, go to Andrew Tate, Pierce Morgan died. But I wouldn't be shocked if Tate, much like Elon Musk had to put out a tweet that says, I am not to the side. The other day, I can't take it all myself.

Starting point is 00:44:34 So go to that tweet right there. Okay, what does this say? Breaking news, Andrew Tate has been shot, found shot dead in Dubai. Pierce Morgan tweeted this. But here's what the point is, somebody broke into his account, okay? And here's Morgan accidentally.

Starting point is 00:44:51 So anyway, somebody took over his account and did this and Andrew Tates is hard to kill, right? So that's the one story, but even Segal, by the way. But Pat, you said that I think when you walked into there's three levels of heat. And Adjutea said this live, he said there's three ways to get you walked into there's three levels of heat. And Adjutaya said this live. He said, there's three ways to get you out of the matrix.

Starting point is 00:45:09 They, they cancel you. They did one part. Number two, they put you in jail and he goes the third part and he goes, is this scary part? Is they kill your ass? You fall, you have a heart attack, some plane crashes. So he's, he has strike two. There's one more striking. Like you said, like when you said, when is enough?

Starting point is 00:45:25 When is the point pat that you say, okay, I'm gonna shut up. Or do you think he's so die hard really for the people? Just like Elon, doing what he's doing, that he's like, I don't give a shit, I'm gonna ride this wave to the end. What do you think? Where do you think he's at?

Starting point is 00:45:37 I think he's a true believer, I don't think he's, because if you want to make, if it's just purely about money, you don't do what he's doing. There's other ways to make money. If it's just purely about money, you don't do what he's doing. There's other ways to make money. If it's just purely about money, there's easier ways to make money without being a target. He is a true believer of what he believes in.

Starting point is 00:45:56 Doesn't mean you have to agree with it, but he's not spewing out stuff that he doesn't believe in. Now, some of the stuff is marketing, some of it is a showmanship, he's an incredible showman. He's the combination of a great communicator, great storyteller, great troll, great showman, and a true believer, combined all in one, which is an unreal combination.

Starting point is 00:46:19 There are people that tell great stories, but here's how they talk. So Vinnie, six o'clock in the morning, they went in, when they opened the door, they saw three lions, one of them winked at them. The other one had to go to the bathroom. Oh shit. The third one was missing its mom.

Starting point is 00:46:35 All of a sudden in the back there was three rats, that ran out. He did, yeah. But this is no reflection. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, You know, so it's like, so he's doing that. And then he's mocking them. He's mocking the powerful people. Look, it's, you cannot be surprised when you bully the bully.

Starting point is 00:46:54 There are levels to bullies. Okay. You know, it's a lowest level bully. What's a lowest level bully? Internet. No, no, what's the low, think about the bullies in your life. Picking on weak people. And then what's the lowest level bully? Picking on like the weakest. But what's the low, think about the bullies in your life? Picking on weak people. And then what's the lowest level bully?

Starting point is 00:47:05 Picking on like the weakest stuff. What's the fastest way to filter out somebody that's a low level bully? To filter them out? Yeah, how do you, how do you feel? Let's go through different levels of bullies. Okay. Lowest level of bully is what?

Starting point is 00:47:17 What's the lowest level of bully? All your names? I know, I know. So how do you and I categorize how strong of a bully this guy? So what's the first thing you do to a bully to find that if this guy's a real bully? You step to him. You step to him. Yeah, yeah, if they back down what were they? Puss powered. They're the lowest level bully. Okay. Got you. What's the second level bully that if you do step to him the fight? They're gonna fight you. Okay, if you step to him and they fight and they'll actually fight you Yeah, okay, and then if at the end of the fight, you maybe got your ass beat by the bully,

Starting point is 00:47:50 but you were not willing to stop fighting. And he finally said, listen, I got respect for you. You're bloody. But he's got a couple shots. You got in as well. He whooped your ass. Yeah. It's like I respect you. Listen, man, I'll just, let's just kind of respect. But don't mess with me right he still stays bully But now he knows Yeah, so he's still a bully. Yeah, okay? The third kind of bully is what the beacher ass and then they're keep coming and they come They're gonna be like keep coming but you know what the highest level of bully is huh?

Starting point is 00:48:18 You bully they bully you okay? You say something to them. They smile at you. They leave And you don't hear anything about them ever again. But until no, you don't hear from them slowly but surely your life starts getting worse and worse and worse in the most random weird ways. Those types of bullies generally work for the government. Those types of bullies generally work for the government. Those types of bullies don't work. Like where's Pat going? And the free enterprise. Okay.

Starting point is 00:48:52 Those types of bullies are the kind of bullies that will use laws, will use regulation, will use cops, will use SWAT, judges, judges, will use everybody to make your life a living hell until they break you and all they look forward to is seeing your broken face One day and you know what is a look of a broken face of a man? We've seen it many many times There's many broken faces to see in the history of mankind There's been many of them where at one point they're like man

Starting point is 00:49:22 I would have never seen this guy be the way he is. They broke him. They break his family. They break his money. They break his morals. They break his relationships. They destroyed this person. So this guy in a date, he chose out of all the bullies in the world to say, screwed this.

Starting point is 00:49:41 I want to go up against those bullets. When you go up against those bullies, you have to make sure your army is also filled with bullies. Now, the kind of bullies that Tate probably has around them at the level that he's currently in are what kind of bullies. He has guys that if you get into a street fight, like there's a video somebody was sitting on their Bugatti. I don't know if you've seen this video or not. Somebody was sitting on the Bugatti, okay? It's actually very funny video. I mean, it's not a funny video.

Starting point is 00:50:09 It's just entertaining. These two guys are sitting on their Bugatti. And then next thing you know, Tristan walks up to the gas, like what are you doing? Get off, punches won the gas, knocks them out. That video is out there, security camera's somewhere. I don't know which one it is. Tristan Tate-Knocks on man four.

Starting point is 00:50:23 Yeah, there it is. He's sitting on his Bugatti. Look at Tristan, all of a sudden. I don't know. We're is Tristan Tate Knox on man for yeah there there's a who got he's sitting on his Bugatti look at Tristan all of a sudden I don't know we're looking to watch us you know what's next one one more punches coming on the other guy no no no one more is coming one more is coming look at this okay and boom oh shit so so now they get back in the Bugatti and they leave yeah you don't sit on the Bugatti's what he's saying okay cool now but here's the thing fair point sitting on some do I call I totally get that. But that level of bullying may matter in the streets. That level of bullying, don't matter when you got the government. Those are the ultimate bullies.

Starting point is 00:50:54 Yeah, their experts can is there any way that you can win against those types? No, yes, there is. Yes, there is. The way you win, you have to make sure you have a lot of people from a large establishment organizations that support you, such as. Any reason why Dana White's untouchable? Are you kidding me? Dana White talks at RNC.

Starting point is 00:51:19 Dana White puts Trump on his plane. Dana White goes on the, you know, Air Force one with Trump. Dana White calls everybody's bullshit out. They know why it goes does what he does. They know why it's doing whatever he wants to do. How come nobody goes after him? Any reason why they're not targeting him?

Starting point is 00:51:34 How come the government, how come no, hey, how come no one's touching that guy? Go ahead and touch him. How many people support him? You know how many people support him? The best football players. The best baseball players. Yeah. The best baseball players. The best actors.

Starting point is 00:51:47 The best he's won the loyalty of so many influencers that they got us back. So what you do with a Dana White and by the way, the thing with Dana White, you got also to give him respect to is Dana White is also learn how to be wise. His answers, he'll say things like this. Look, I don't know how you know Trump. Here's how I know him. When I needed to get a place to run out to do my first fight He was the first guy that was there for me. He's always been respectful for me

Starting point is 00:52:10 He's always done to see he doesn't go to the levels that he goes to he just goes Right, yeah, so and and the other person that earned a little bit of St. St. St. St. St him, but he's earned same status as Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan earned same status. When they try to kind of drop him, the good decision, Joe made, believe it or not, the best decision, Joe made. As crazy as this is gonna sound, one of the best decisions, Joe made,

Starting point is 00:52:36 is that he signed his contract with a company that's not in the US. Spotify's not in the US. Sweden, right? He's in Sweden. Like Spotify, Sweden's like, we deal with their rules and regulations of Sweden. We don't deal with not buddies going out to dinner

Starting point is 00:52:50 with these Facebook, Google, you know, all these people that are on YouTube. No, we're not. We're on in our own planet. And the world of bodybuilding, there was one guy bodybuilder's hated. As it was Doreen Yates. And he won six to them.

Starting point is 00:53:01 The reason why they hated Doreen Yates is because he always trained in UK, never came to the parties, never went to the club. No, he did a little bit, but he was a guy that you wouldn't see him for one year and he would only do one competition per year. Mr. Olympia, everybody else is doing shows, shows, shows. So you would always see what they're looking like. This guy doesn't do nothing and then all of a sudden shows up to Mr. Olympia, takes his

Starting point is 00:53:21 shirt off people like cold shit. That's how you're gonna be the champion, right? shows up to the maestro limpia, takes a shirt off people like, holy shit. The chair's out. The chair's out. You're gonna be the chair, is it? So meaning, sweet and Spotify sitting there saying, you guys keep talking shit to each other, we're kinda gonna be over here, okay? And we're gonna keep rogan. We don't care what you say.

Starting point is 00:53:35 He's got his own opinions. We're gonna keep him on. We're not gonna cancel him. So, I don't know, Tate, he's not naive. He knows what he's doing. He knows who he's targeting. There's a reason why he wants to be in a place like Romania strategically. Tata's smarter than this. He knows if it came down to it. Look, I'll show you something which is so so funny on how much the media manipulates and people fall for this bullshit, right?

Starting point is 00:54:02 Take a look at this. This is one of the craziest things I saw the other day. I'm gonna send it to Rob and just put it on the computer so we can see it. I want you I want by the way meanwhile can you do a poll as well just to see if people feel there is a credibility There is you know anything else to it or not We did a poll do you think Andrew Tate is guilty of human trafficking? Had 6,893 votes. 87% said no. 87% said no. He is not guilty of human trafficking.

Starting point is 00:54:31 13% said yes. 87% said no. Okay, interesting poll. Well, that's our audience. I just sent you, I just sent you what I sent you. Can you pull up what I just sent you right there? You guys know what I think would be a great thing, Pat. And I'm pretty sure this would be a great bit.

Starting point is 00:54:43 I don't know, because when you said, you have C and you know, uh, Dana White isn't tates the most to fight, uh, Jake Paul, right? How great would that be if he doesn't get arrested? He's in jail. They do the fight in the middle of like the prison. And it's like Tate versus him and he's in a Romanian prison. I'd pay to watch that. I wouldn't illegally stream it. Yeah. I'd like to see actually what Logan Paul says at this point. Oh, we all know what he said. They have. Logan Paul cannot say anything right now because coffee Zilla's going after him hardcore. Who?

Starting point is 00:55:12 Oh, big time because of crypto and what happened with crypto. Oh, yeah. He's buying his, he's buying his, he's dealing with it. I want you to read this. I want you to read this real quick with me. So zoom in a little bit so everybody can see just kind of a press the green button. Yeah, there you go. And then, okay, so check this out

Starting point is 00:55:26 Before Ukraine crisis here's what the Guardian said welcome to Ukraine the most corrupt nation in Europe after Ukraine crisis to the right The fight for Ukraine is a fight for liberal ideas. I love how you was before Ukraine crisis Reuters Ukraine's neo-Nazi problem after Ukraine crisis Reuters or foreign fighters Ukraine offers purpose camaraderie and a cause before Ukraine crisis Vox a Ukrainian comedian turned president in a embroiled is embroiled in Trump's impeachment mess CNN to the right Ukrainians giving two lessons in democracy that Americans have forgotten about new Europe to the left before Ukraine crisis

Starting point is 00:56:09 Ukrainian president rule because increasingly corrupt authoritarian Washington post after Ukrainian crisis Zelensky the TV president turned war hero I mean, there was but you know But you know what is crazy about this? Like here's the part that drives me insane sometimes is how people are naive and they're not paranoid and skeptical enough. I trust a guy more that says, look, I don't know if Trump did anything with Russia,

Starting point is 00:56:42 but maybe he did. Maybe he did. Okay, I'm good with that. You're right, maybe he did. Maybe he did. Okay, I'm good with that. You're right, maybe he did. If he did, let's see what the courts have to say. Even if a person says, right now, look man, I don't like this guy. I don't like what he says, but maybe he did some of this stuff,

Starting point is 00:56:56 but I don't want to jump to conclusions saying he did. I kind of want to learn more about it. Let's see what happens over the next weeks where some other stories come up. How do you believe, a media that at one point was telling you how horrible, corrupt, you crained was just a couple years ago. Literally, this is not 20 years ago, just a couple years ago, and out there telling us the new Churchill leader worldwide

Starting point is 00:57:18 is a guy named Zelensky, FYI, no one's sitting here telling you Putin is the greatest thing since sliced bread, no one's telling you that all We're saying right now is stop being so damn naive and believing everybody everything you hear so this the point I was gonna make to take The point I was gonna make to take is the following he has to be smart enough He's a very witty guy, but I know the one benefit. He's got it's it's you know It's the ultimate benefit a man can have

Starting point is 00:57:47 is to have the brother that he has. Those two have a 100% bond with each other, which is like a father's dream. Okay. A father's dream would be to have your sons be that tight to each other. And they're both smart and they've been both raised by a sharp guy which is the father, okay? So it's not like this is not a this is a regular lightweight guy. This guy just assume, when I hear these guys talking all I think about, here's all I think about. My visual goes to Dad's in the car driving, Andrew's sitting shotgun, Tristan sitting in the back and he's asking, what do you think about the CIA?

Starting point is 00:58:26 What do you think would just happen with Russia? What do you think about Stalin? What do you think about Lenin? Let me tell you a history about what happened in South Africa such and such years ago. Let me tell you what's going on with US. Let me tell you about Jimmy Carter. Let me tell you about this.

Starting point is 00:58:38 Imagine their car drives. You can't talk like this and think like this, but I somebody shaping your mindset. And the only person you can think about is who the father. The father is who shaped their mindset to be thinking the way they're thinking. So, Tate, if he's the wise, shrewd street guy that he is, Tate,

Starting point is 00:58:57 you can't be naive and believe Romania is gonna protect you because it's a very corrupt nation. You don't have more money than other governments that they can offer to that country. Your 50 million, 100 million, half a billion, a billion is nothing. The US just cut a 1.7 trillion dollar 2.6 billion dollars for January 6th attorneys, which they just dropped the case couple days ago. You think they're gonna have a hard time buying up you, Crankin, you know, a Romanian government to come after and do, no. There's no way they're gonna have a hard time with that. There's better places for him to be. If they wanted, we saw what they

Starting point is 00:59:43 did with, uh, was a Julian Assange, who was it that was a Snowden or Assange where they said, Hey, woman this and woman that and I saw a Sange. Yeah, they have way more methods to their powers than he believes. What Tate needs to do, the next phase when he comes back, if he's going to be wise about this, the next time he comes back, is build stronger alliances. He doesn't have a lot of strong alliances. He needs stronger alliances, okay? You need alliances. And alliances are, he has a lot of people that believe in him. He has a lot of people that support him.

Starting point is 01:00:17 He has a lot of people that, like what he has to say. But you need powerful people to have your back. Okay, you need powerful alliances. I think he's got to be the next time around if he does come back, he needs to have a better strategy of creating better alliances. And the line that definition is a union or association formed from mutual benefit, especially between countries

Starting point is 01:00:44 and or organization. If I give you, if I give you powerful names and I told you what aligns us, they have, I guarantee you could come up with a bunch of names for different people. I can give you names right now and you can say, yeah, that guy's got this back and from this guy. Okay, Oprah Winfrey. What aligns us does she have? Go ahead.

Starting point is 01:00:58 Clintons. Yeah. Who else? Our government and network's tech. Obamas. Obamas. She's connected. Oh, all those studios. You know, you know, you know how many different insurance policies that is.

Starting point is 01:01:10 That's a lot of different insurance policies. Yeah. Okay. What's the knock on Trump? How many alliances does he have? Even if he has them, they burns them anyway. So the challenge is the alliances he wouldn't keep for too long, right? You know, colony law, muskable shit artists. That's an alliance you could have kept. Rogan is a good alliance to keep. Like, these are good alliances to keep. Not everybody is an enemy. So the challenge with, the challenge with,

Starting point is 01:01:36 the methodology of bullying all the bullies, is sometimes you bully people that could have been an alliance to you that you lose. And that's the only thing that I think, you know, a part of it, obviously, the playbook of the last six years is to duplicate what trumped it, but duplicating that without building alliances long-term, it's not the right strategy. I don't think I could be wrong. I don't think that's the right strategy. Number one, I think what you said was beyond powerful. So like, you know, clip that up and just clip it. But the way that I'm interpreting these alliances

Starting point is 01:02:11 is so there's, there's top down and bottom up. Okay, so one of the more powerful things that I remember what Tate said when he talked about Logan Paul was he's like, Logan Paul has followers. I have fans and there's a big difference. Like they're wondering, where's Tate? Let's go find Tate, whereas he compared Logan Paul

Starting point is 01:02:32 to sort of a tool of the matrix and a monkey and people watch, but they're not fans. Got you. So, all right, where am I going with this? We're speaking of alliances. So top down, bottom up, bottom up would be the ground swell of people that Genuinely want to see this guy win fans, okay?

Starting point is 01:02:49 There's no doubt he has millions and millions of fans. Hey doubt that for sure no doubt, okay? So that's the bottom up approach like I'm not comparing tape to Gandhi But if you start on the grass root or if it's a a Bernie Sanders whether it's a Trump you have a Ground swell of people you have a ground game from the bottom up that will support you, you need that, right? The problem is what Tate doesn't have is that he doesn't have a top down approach. There's nobody in the upper echelons of government,

Starting point is 01:03:18 tech, society, the global elite that is gonna come to his defense, nobody. And I think that's what you're referring to when he comes to alliances. You can have the bottom-up approach amazing, but if you're going to go against the system, you better have some big bazookas up at the top. They're going to have your back. Oh, but by the way, I think he's got the personality to get that. FY, some people are DMME stuff and from different parts of the world.

Starting point is 01:03:42 Rob, can you do me a favor and put my link to my Twitter profile? If anybody has anything that they want to share and some of the credible stuff, if you can't send it to me, I'll bring it up. If you don't want your name to be mentioned because of whoever you are, I'll respect that, no problem. But if you do want, feel free to send the stuff to my Twitter profile. Just put the link below the easiest way for people to go to it. So, no question, but here's the thing. Here's the thing that he has going for himself.

Starting point is 01:04:10 He's likable, okay? He's very likable. He's charming, he's likable. Put the exact link to put, okay, there you go. He's charming, he's likable, he's witty, he's likable he's witty he's smart he's funny he's also polarizing he's very polarizing i get that but what i'm saying is he has the ability to win saying status and earn a lot of people support he has that

Starting point is 01:04:38 uh... he has to uh... he has to change uh... he has to change his approach here's the other thing that you gotta be thinking about as well. He said something with somebody he was on. I don't know, somebody sent me this clip where he says, look, the difference between men and women is the following. If you have a past as a woman and you're 38 single,

Starting point is 01:04:56 you're trying to get like this girl yesterday, say she's the, I don't even know who this comedian was. Yesterday, she deleted all the tweets. A guy sent me the tweets is like, listen, she saved it, because here's what she said. Let me see if I even have this picture, the guy sent me about what the lady tweeted. So the first tweet from hers was something like,

Starting point is 01:05:17 I have to show you guys, because it's too funny. This morning I woke up, everybody's DM me saying, hey, guess what? She deleted everything, she said about you, et cetera, et cetera. But we saved it. We have it. Don't worry about it. Yes.

Starting point is 01:05:28 Here. So here's a, okay, let me just send you, oh, shit, I have to, yeah, I got all of them. Oh, fantastic. Oh, yes. They sent it. All right, so let me send this to you. This is a girl named Nicole Arbor.

Starting point is 01:05:40 I don't know who she is. Me neither. And I'm gonna get it. And by the way, she may be a very likable person. She may be somebody that's liked by a lot of people that we like. I don't even know this. I don't know who this person is. But she responded to my tweet.

Starting point is 01:05:54 Rob, if you got it, just kind of pull it up and upload that first and then we'll read this tweet. I don't want you to go to this tweet yet. I want you to first read the tweets I sent you. Yeah, so go pull up the tweet I sent you and then I'll tell tell you where I'm going with this if you can pull this up. Okay, go in. So my tweet that I read earlier, you know the one that is going to exactly what happened with code corporate day, but they have to grab a thumb. Here's a response go down. She says, uh, uh, not that strange Patrick one is an American issue and one is a multiple

Starting point is 01:06:22 rape allegation human trafficking and allegation that have been going on since April and a bucket of other possible charges in Romania, ask your friend, Inas Freedom, Cantor, what he thinks about human trafficking. Again, I know nothing about what she's saying here. All of it could be true. So my response to her is the following. If you want to go show the second one, I know, the second one I sent you, I sent you two pictures. Get away from this one here, Rob one, I know the second one I sent you, I sent you two pictures. Get away from this one here, a wrap,

Starting point is 01:06:47 and go to the other one I sent you. I sent you two pictures if you can pull up the other one. Okay, do you have it or no? Okay, so the second one is... And you don't know this girl, you don't know. No, I'm just saying period at all. And in my drama,

Starting point is 01:07:02 I've never met her. I've never met her. I don't know who she is. Okay, because I'm either. So then this is my response to her. So if you go to the bottom, I said, you sound emotional yet certain. I'm choosing to be logical yet paranoid.

Starting point is 01:07:16 Good call. But you also sound like somebody who may have been attracted to him but he had zero interest in you. If that's the case, I'm sorry he heard your feelings. Meanwhile, I'm waiting patiently to learn more. A whole level of 100 by the way. It's just straight up.

Starting point is 01:07:30 Wait, you're giving opinion and you're kind of trolling. By the way, she doesn't respond to me and she calls me, you sound like a typical beta male. Okay, nice. And she deletes that after she calls me a typical beta male. Then I said to follow and I said, LOL, I just realized you're a comedian. I can appreciate your sense of humor.

Starting point is 01:07:49 But if I'm a beta male, wouldn't that make you an alpha female? No, 40 years old single, not married no kids. Mike dropped. Maybe there's a reason for that sweet dream. Night, Mike dropped. And then you see her tweet at the top. You're the lead at it. She deleted it.

Starting point is 01:08:02 What happened? But the point is the following. The point is the following. None of the top. You're the leader. So the point is the following. The point is the following. None of us know what's fully going on. Everybody here could be wrong. Like if God forbid something happens all of a sudden, Titusca, he goes to jail for 15 years, you have to know people are going to come after us. And they're going to be like, oh my God, you know, you gave the scatter platform, you did

Starting point is 01:08:20 this and your part of the problem is, what, all this stuff they're going to say. And then if the opposite happens and he's out, he's innocent, you have to also realize people are gonna go, I told you, you jumped to conclusion. The whole part of this thing here is sometimes, like, I'll never forget when I hit rock bottom. Oh, bro, the bet, do you know, it was the sickest thing when I hit rock bottom, okay?

Starting point is 01:08:44 The guy that I was always on defense to see if he was really a best friend or if he was a hater, okay? You know how long it took me to figure that out? One second. Shut up. No, just one time. What was the moment? And then, so what happened was, word came back to me, text messages, all this other stuff.

Starting point is 01:09:04 So let me take what this guy said about you. I said, got it. Well, I'm not surprised. Finally validated that I was right. That guy was a waste of time. Okay, I gave him credit, you know, benefit of the doubt, but he was right. You know what happened?

Starting point is 01:09:17 The guys I thought didn't have my back, had my back. Many of the guys I thought had my back, didn't have my back. The greatest filtering system in life is when you have a massive crisis in your life, you can immediately filter out 90% of people in your life. What types of crisis? bankruptcy, divorce, loss of a loved one, drug use, set back, your master, falling out. It's the fastest way to filter out the real people and the fake people in your life. Immediately. There's nothing like it. The cousin you thought was the best cousin that he's been jealous for a long time.

Starting point is 01:09:52 He's just never revealed it until your fall. The best friend you had that you thought he was like the guy that had your back, and it was right next to you. And like, oh, this is my guy. Now, it wasn't. He's been waiting for you to have a fall because he's internally envious of all the attention and all that you're getting. He's sick of it. Do you know what happened with one of the guys that was the guy that turned his back on me? What? Right before we leave Texas,

Starting point is 01:10:16 he invites me to go to Raffis Place and I go to Raffis Place with him. And we sit down and I sit to him, I said, hey, so what's going on? He says, yeah, I want to pay for lunch. You know, you've never paid for lunch. I always pay for lunch. What do you do?

Starting point is 01:10:30 Like, what's this act all about? I said, look, man, I'm going to pay for my lunch today. I'm not paying for your lunch. You can cover your lunch, but I'm going to pay for my lunch today. But I want to tell you everything, okay? Once and for all. And I just went through all of it. And by the time it was done, I said,

Starting point is 01:10:45 dude, spin awesome, I wish you nothing but the best. I hope all your dreams become a reality, but moving forward, we're acquaintances. There's no more friendship here, okay? God knows I want every single one of your dreams to still become a reality, because I know where I'm going with my life. There's plenty of success for all of us to get it all.

Starting point is 01:11:07 You can get it, if you're more successful, then be more power to you. But I'm looking for real relationship in my life, and you're just not one of them, okay? Good luck to you. The look on his face changed so many different times, okay? Because in life, you can make millions. You can have all the women in the world.

Starting point is 01:11:24 You can have the cars, you can have the houses, You can have the cars, you can have the houses, you can have the clothes, you can have the accolades, you can have all of them. Nothing is more valuable than real relationships where you can just sit there, do nothing, chill out, and you know that person's not gonna judge you. Jordan said something about his relationship with Tiger Woods.

Starting point is 01:11:44 He says, you know, when Tiger comes to our place, I want him to feel safe. I want him to feel like he can be whoever he wants to be, because no one's going to know. We're not going to judge him. He says, because that's how I feel with Tiger. It's very hard to have people like that in your life when you make it to the levels that Tiger and some of us have made it, right? There's only a few Andrews in the world right now, okay? He just filtered out 99% of the people in his life, okay?

Starting point is 01:12:09 And the 1% that is there, those relationship, he best value, because they're very, very hard to find, especially as you age. But the greatest filtering process we just saw right there within the 24-hour period is all the people that came out and said what they said. Now, you know, the other thing that the point I was going to make here is the following as well. We all have a past.

Starting point is 01:12:31 You have a past. Adams got a past. We all got a past. Okay, and he's got a past as well. We don't know everything about the past. All we know about him is six to 12 months. Remember that one clip that came out, he hit a girl and I can't believe you're supporting this because you look, I've never seen this before. Let me see this. Oh, the girl said they were doing

Starting point is 01:12:47 some kinky stuff. Turns out she was into it. Yeah. Yeah. She made a video saying, no, this is kind of what things we did private. Okay, fine. Great. You know, a lot of things like this came out. Oh, he paid her off. He did whatever. I'm not sitting here telling you this guy's an angel. Okay. Believe me, there's a lot of words we've used to get a girl to be willing to have sex with you. I mean, if you know the book, thinking, Grow Rich and Napoleon Hill said something very powerful, sex transmutation, I don't know if you've heard the phrase sex transmutation.

Starting point is 01:13:17 Yeah, of course. Type in the word, chapter 10. Jesus, shut up. I swear to God. If it's chapter 10, I'm gonna be very impressed. Yeah, it is. By the way, this is one of the reasons why I went 17 months without sex.

Starting point is 01:13:27 Sure, yeah, yeah. This guy and another guy. This guy, the two guy, I went 17 months without it. It was the hardest thing I ever did. My temper was the worst. I was lifting weights like you wouldn't believe. I'd go to the gym, I'm like, put another plate. Give me the stick, bam!

Starting point is 01:13:39 Ten times, everyone's looking, I'm saying this. Put a towel, I'm red. You're like, sure you, yes, I want another appetizer. Hurry up. Anyway, so he talks with sex transmutation. And one of the things he talks about in this chapter is the fact that men will say anything. In the moment like right before you're about to be done

Starting point is 01:13:56 or right before you're about to close, men will say anything to get a woman to go in bed with them. You know, but babe, listen, how do you expect me to show you love? If you're not letting me, like that's how I'm able to hold you show love to you. You know last night I was having a dream. In the middle of the night, I woke up, I looked to my right, I thought you were next to me, you weren't, I cried.

Starting point is 01:14:18 All I thought about was you. We will say the dumbest thing that I'm moving your family, bring your mom, bring the, I'm allergic, bring cats. And by the way, if you're a guy and you're sitting here saying, I've never said anything like that, you are full of shit is what you are. I've always loved you. The moment I saw you are.

Starting point is 01:14:37 But by the way, I'm not sensationalizing this. I'm just saying it's a weakness of men that we are willing to say some stupid shit together. Yes. Am I sitting here saying, Tadeh hasn't used some lines like that. And by the way, as good as you think you are with lines, I guarantee you he's better with lines than what to say in those moments. So, okay, all I'm saying is the following. He has to as quickly as possible change his brand, disconnect with old, whatever happened

Starting point is 01:15:03 get that stuff situated, lawyers, way you made money, whatever you did, make it good with everybody you ever screwed, whatever you did, he has to make those things good because a big part, one of the stories was like in UK, XYZ happened, the reason why he left UK because one of the girls that he said, you never paid me, so you're gonna,

Starting point is 01:15:22 I'm gonna do this and so he left UK to go to Romania. Anyways, these are stories, I don't know this and so he left UK to go to Romania. Anyways, these are stories. I don't know the full credit, build the credibility behind it. These are fully stories that he went to Romania. If he's gonna come back, which this guy's got, he's like a cat, he's got multiple lives.

Starting point is 01:15:35 This guy's gonna come back. And he's on his seventh life or sixth life. You have to change some of your strategies and you have to figure out what to clean up anything from your past by getting the right lawyers, making all the old enemies into friends and allies and moving forward. So you think there is a two things I want to say. So you think there is a chance for him to redeem and I mean, how do you basically tell

Starting point is 01:15:53 the government, you know, I say it's government, I know I poke that you know, a couple times, I'm sorry. Number one, number two, Pat, you're talking about not the government. I didn't say the government, but you know, I'm talking about he's pissed off a lot of things. No, no, but he can't go back in a pile. You don't apologize to the government. Okay. No, no.

Starting point is 01:16:07 That's what I'm saying. So you think it's too late for him to do that clean up thing that you're talking about? No, it's kind of like this. If you're running for office, the first thing you got to do is call every single one your exes have meet with them. Wow.

Starting point is 01:16:18 I mean, you just have to do that. I don't think what I said is anything unique. You have to meet with everyone and say, so listen, it's fun to talk to you. How are you doing? Good. Anything you're upset with me. Anything that frustrated you.

Starting point is 01:16:31 Tell me where you're at. I want to tell you, 19 years ago, XYZ, I want to apologize. That was not cool what I did. I'm truly sorry. I have to. You have to have those conversations if you're running for office. You have to call family, friends, enemies, allies,

Starting point is 01:16:47 exes, and have those conversations. And in that moment, you're gonna know, this is not gonna be fixed, and this is gonna come back up. Guess what, I can't run for office, okay? He has to treat this because what he's doing is a form of running for office. The office he's running for is the president of the internet.

Starting point is 01:17:05 You're not running for the office of president of United. He's running to be the president of the internet. If you're running to be the president of the internet, you have to kind of go back and look at some of those relationships and making good. And 100% you got them, because you don't walk on water, none of us do. This isn't a pass at him.

Starting point is 01:17:20 This is just if you're really wanting that kind of respect and accolades, you gotta make some of those calls. And those are private apologies. They're not public. That's all I'm gonna say. It's more important, it's 101, face to face. In case it takes courage to do those.

Starting point is 01:17:34 It's a very tough to do. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, great observation, president. Oh no.

Starting point is 01:17:41 So I actually had a conversation about this with my good buddy Michael Sartain is basically saying today in today's society, the eyeball attention economy, where everything's about clicks and views and eyeballs and subscribers and all that, we're in a different time, where it used to be good versus bad. USA versus USSR, right? Hulk Hogan versus Iron Sheik. Like, there was a clear distinction between,

Starting point is 01:18:05 who was the good guy and who was the bad guy? These days, the lines are completely blurred. It's just who has the most followers, who has the most cloud, who gets the most eyeballs. And if you're running for the president, the internet, your and your tape, you know how they say, like, other than like literally going to jail, like, I don't care what you say about me,

Starting point is 01:18:21 just spell my name, right? Everybody knows how to spell TAT, it's just my... 100%. Okay, so he Everybody knows how to spell TAT at this point. 100%. Okay, so he's fully qualified to be president the internet, good, batter, and different, okay? Whether you're Kanye, whether you're Trump, whether you're freaking Billy McFarland from the, from the, whether you're a

Starting point is 01:18:36 Sandbakeman-free, fire festival guy, Sandbakeman-free, FTX. People wanna know your story, the bigger that you get. If Bernie made off we're alive, he'd be on a fucking podcast right now. I mean, like Bernie, let's hear the deal with you how to going on. So fully endorsed what you're saying right now.

Starting point is 01:18:51 I actually just want to make an apology. It was chapter 11 of thinking growing. All mine of pulley and hill fans out there. I think a girl which like, Adam, you're an idiot. You're scumbag is chapter 11. I apologize right there. But what you said is so true about sex transmutation.

Starting point is 01:19:06 And it's been years since I read this book, but essentially tell me if I'm wrong, the premise was some of the greatest men in history were absolute like sex beasts. Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Einstein, Thomas Jefferson. These guys were lover boys to use that term to a little call back right there,

Starting point is 01:19:24 but they took that energy and that passion and that like, oh, that you have as a man and funneled it into something positive or creative or scientific or leadership or political aspirations or whatever and you harness that power for greatness. Essentially, I think that's what you did for that 17 month celibacy. I'm working on 17 days at some. But it's such a powerful comment. But what you did for that 17 month celibacy. I'm working on 17 days, that's up.

Starting point is 01:19:45 But it's such a powerful comment. But what you also said was actually very true about what guys will say to women. It's because women, men fall in love with their eyes, women fall in love with their ears. What does that mean? Men are visual creatures, right? 80% of the reason that a guy dates a girl

Starting point is 01:20:03 is how she looks. And then there's 20% that's like, what's her values? What's her principles? What's her age? What's her pain? What's her pain? But it's very, very much a looks conditional thing, okay? For women falling in love with their ears, it's not all about looks.

Starting point is 01:20:18 It's about what you do for work, what's your status? What car do you drive? Are you a good person? Do you like kittens? Do you help old ladies cross the street? Are you funny? Are you creative? Are you a good person? Do you like kittens? Do you help old ladies cross the street? Are you funny? Are you creative? Are you a man?

Starting point is 01:20:27 Are you an alpha? And the pie graph is actually dispersed across the place. So what does that mean? A man falls in love with his eyes because he likes how beautiful a woman is. A man knows that he has to say some shit to impress a woman. You were going here, you were going here with a different direction where a You're I think you were going here with the past and the future men care about a woman's past Women care more about a man's future So if you find out that this girl you're dating

Starting point is 01:20:58 Used to be a stripper or a hoe or a cardie B type girl. I don't care where she's at today It's like I can't bring this girl out in public. If a woman finds out that that dude used to be like homeless, like a head sex with a ton of women and just was like an asshole, whatever, but now he's cleaned it up and his future looks bright. Women will jump all over that versus a man will not go back and try to relive a woman's checkered past. I want to read this tweet.

Starting point is 01:21:23 You know, it just came in right now for Mario and a fall. Just in, and less than an hour, the tape brothers will arrive before the judges at Bucharest court to find out whether or not they will spend the holidays behind bars, whether or not the 30 day preventative arrests weren't requested by the prosecutors will be confirmed. This just came in an hour ago.

Starting point is 01:21:42 So literally how long ago? Yeah, about an hour, wait 14. So meaning they're in court right now and we're gonna see what's gonna be happening. I think a lot of different stories are gonna come out today. Yeah, I think a lot of different stories are gonna come out today and nobody fully has an idea what's gonna happen. Pack, ask you a question.

Starting point is 01:22:03 So just to go back a little bit, not to go too far, but remember you say like, you find out who your real friends are, the real family, when you hit that rock bottom. My question was gonna be, what if you don't have one of those moments where like you do fall and you don't get to see a pan, your life is just kinda going good.

Starting point is 01:22:20 How do you really find out who these success is? Success is the other way. It's either hardcore failure or hardcore success because when you succeed, the butt, butt, like, yeah, Vinnie's doing this butt, let's not forget. Yeah, you're trying to find the butt community. The butt community, and I'm not talking about the butt community, you've been looking for your entire life, talking about a the butt community. The butt community, and I'm not talking about the butt community, you've been looking for your entire life,

Starting point is 01:22:46 talking about a different butt community. One T-na-two T's, right? That's your, I mean, success, and where you are, hey, look, you see Vinnie is a white, he's doing this, he's done it. Yeah, but listen, let me tell you, that's because what happened during COVID, really heard his career about they're gonna make,

Starting point is 01:23:01 so, and all of those stories are gonna come out. All of those stories are gonna come out. All of those stories are gonna come out. Yeah, I mean, the best way to identify who's got your back and who does not is when you fall. You know, like when you fall someone, I told you, never do that, I told you, got it. I got you. Yeah, I got you.

Starting point is 01:23:19 Okay, cool. So listen, I look, at this point, I don't need to tell you already, you know, you shouldn't have done that. But look, what are we doing from here? Here's what I suggest we doing, okay? Hey, you know, I got a this point, I don't need to tell you already know you shouldn't have done that but look What are we doing from here? Here's what I suggest we doing okay? Hey, you know, I got a girl pregnant last night. I met you know, she know I got a girl pregnant a month and a half ago that I met at the club. She wants to keep the pay baby

Starting point is 01:23:35 Baby, I don't know what the hell to do. I mean, you know you screwed up. I do okay, dude What do we do she keeping her? She's choosing to keep it. Okay, you got to work with that. What are we doing now? Mm-hmm. We got to go make some money, we gotta forget this. So you will know by the way, people answer. By the way, one of the best and Jordan Peterson said, I had him at an event and he was talking about his next book coming up. Jordan Peterson talked about it.

Starting point is 01:23:55 If you really want to know if people have your back or not, say some good and say some bad about yourself and just watch their reaction. If you say something bad about yourself that happened and you look at them and you can tell there's a part of celebration going on, you can tell where they're at. But if you say good things about yourself

Starting point is 01:24:15 and you see how what they turn into, you can also kind of tell where they're at. But you will know more about them if you say bad things than you will know versus when you say good things. I'm an extremely logical and paranoid guy, skeptical guy, and I'm not looking to have a billion great relationships. I'm looking to have a handful to 10 phenomenal, valuable relationships in life outside of my family.

Starting point is 01:24:42 Meaning, there's no relationship more important you wanna have them with your kids, your wife, your family, all that, that's very important. But outside of that, friends, non-blood, five to 10. If you got five like 10s in your life, do it. You have the same amount of wealth as Elon Musk has. If you have five 10s, like right or die type of buddies in your life, great.

Starting point is 01:25:05 You're the richest man in the world. I like that. You're the richest man in the world. Now, if you can make some money as well, you can enjoy the money with your friends. I agree with you. Yeah, because it sucks when you don't have the money to enjoy those special moments together.

Starting point is 01:25:16 Yeah. So, again, we're gonna see what's gonna happen here with this guy. I'll add to that. Like, if my mom watches this clip, she's gonna like, like, fell right there. And, I'd say, tears, my mom, the number one lesson she would tell me as a kid, like, if my mom watches this clip, she's gonna like, fell right there. And tears, my mom, the number one lesson she would tell me as a kid is like, in order to have a friend, you need to be a friend.

Starting point is 01:25:30 And like, I say this all the time, I don't have any hobbies in my life, I don't go rock climbing, I don't collect baseball cards, I got nothing going on, I don't have stamp collection, I value friendship, I like hanging out with my boys, I like making money, I like hanging out with pretty girls. I'm a very simple dude. But to basically what's Pat saying is,

Starting point is 01:25:48 there's a couple of quotes we can talk about right here, but essentially, it's like, value those who will support you when they have nothing to gain. Like, essentially, like, who will have you in your life when you have nothing to offer other than yourself, just being there for you? There's a famous quote by Oprah. What's I'm gonna read the quote she says Lots of people want to ride with you in the limo

Starting point is 01:26:14 But what you want is someone will take the bus with you in the limo breaks down So when you have nothing to offer other than your company, that is the true sign of a friendship like the guy The the the guy that you want to lunch with at Raffi's place, I don't know the relationship, but was he using you for something? Or what was the situation? It was a competitive environment. It was like, hey, because what frustrated him the most

Starting point is 01:26:36 is the fact that I won without getting a college degree and all of them went and got the college degrees. And to them, to their families, every time I would go around their families, it was like would go around their families, it was like when you're gonna get your degree, when you're gonna get your degree, such and such got his degree, such and such got his degree, when you're gonna get your degree,

Starting point is 01:26:50 when you're gonna get your, it was always that conversation. I'm like, yeah guys, I'm not gonna get my degree. And then when I blew up after telling them what I was gonna do, that was when it was the end of it. They were not happy about the level of success that came afterwards. But some of the guys, one guy was freaking straight up.

Starting point is 01:27:07 He says, look, took me to Conrad, shout out to Adrian, this guy took me to Conrad and said, look, Pat, I gotta just be honest with you. I thought you were gonna be the biggest failure out of all of our friends. Really? I thought you were gonna be the biggest failure. I thought you were gonna do nothing with your life.

Starting point is 01:27:22 And the fact that you have has shocked the hell out of me, but I just want to tell you I'm proud of you, man. That's awesome. And guess what? I was like, dude, respect. Good for you. I, you know what, I appreciate it. He's got a great life today.

Starting point is 01:27:34 He's successful. He's doing good for himself. But, you know, I learned some of them were more up to games behind closed doors versus the other way around. Hey, Pat has money. You pay for it. Hey, let's go to Pat's place for the party, but hey, we're doing a gathering at the house.

Starting point is 01:27:48 Let's invite everybody, but Pat, you know, because I may make you uncomfortable and all the people that have all the fancy degrees get to get on. I'm not there. I'm totally fine with that. I'm very comfortable in my own skin. All I'm saying is, you're gonna know as you succeed, if some of the guys that were, you know,

Starting point is 01:28:04 maybe ahead of you at the time, and now you're ahead of them. That messes what a lot of people said. Got you. And I like the fact that you said that, because I honestly was like, I'm trying to figure out, if your life is just chilling and you're going like this, because I haven't fallen, fallen, I've had bad stuff happen in my life, and I've had friends there.

Starting point is 01:28:19 Well, go back to when you were the airman of the year, what are you talking about? I guarantee you, there's a lot of guys that we're not happy that we've been. Haters, yeah. Haters, but I mean, that's, that were not happy that we've been. Haters, oh my god. Haters, but I mean, that's, but what you're saying is the opposite is, is nothing happened.

Starting point is 01:28:28 What you're doing here, you're nothing when you're chilling. Oh, bro, those snakes, they're in the ground. Vinnie, believe me, a lot of the people that were ahead of you in comedy who have never had a video get a couple hundred million views are sitting there saying, freaking guys, I'm seeing them everywhere right now.

Starting point is 01:28:42 You secretly, some of them are not celebrating. You don't see it, yeah, I got you. But just be patient. Yeah, just be everywhere right now you secretly some of them. Yeah, you don't see it Yeah, I got you. Yeah, but just be patient. Yeah, just be patient. You're gonna you're gonna learn a lot Well, put the got put that picture down you jerk value those Value you and you have nothing to offer What are handsome guy? We're gonna say something or were you Looking Rob I have another point that I want to make separately so I don't know

Starting point is 01:29:04 All right, well is this dating advice? No, well, let's stay on this topic. This could be, this could be. Let's hear what dating advice you got. No, this isn't dating. Well, I want to get your actually your perspective on this as a father with two boys and two girls. And this goes back to what we were talking about with Tate and sort of the, how he calls out sort of the new wave, new age, modern women, boss babe feminists.

Starting point is 01:29:26 So, you know, you would hear, you know, peripherally, I don't know how much you paid attention to it, that the future is female. Have you heard this before? The future is female, I don't know if you know that. The future is female. And okay, like that stuff, you would just hear peripherally, have you ever heard that before?

Starting point is 01:29:42 I sure do. This is the first time I've ever heard of it. You've never heard the future is female. I know women are killing it, I this is the first time I've ever heard of it. You've never heard the future female. I'm not known. Women are killing it and I'm proud of them. I'm like, I never heard of it. I never heard of it. But if you heard this, the future is female.

Starting point is 01:29:50 Rob, have you heard this? Yes. The future is female. I don't know that. So I'm like, all right, that's, I didn't really look into that. Although, all right, cool, good luck, ladies. Like, I have a mom, I have a grandma, I have a sister, I have a girl, like, nieces, I'm awesome.

Starting point is 01:30:02 The future is female. And I'm like, what do you mean the futures female? So like, is it, I mean, like, what role is men gonna have of the futures female? Are we now second class citizens? Are we now not expected to be what we potentially could be? And I started delving into this topic of modern feminism and just kind of going down that rabbit hole

Starting point is 01:30:23 about how like how women say like, I don't need no man. Like there's a song like sweetie, like I'm a bad bitch, make my own money, don't need no man. It's like what do you mean you don't need a man? Or if you're a lesbian, I get it. Yeah, whatever.

Starting point is 01:30:37 But if you're just a chick that says she don't need a man, you have no idea how many women I know in their late 30s in their early 40s, message to the females out there, who I say, hey, how you doing? Cause I'm in my early 40s, you are as well. I said, what's up? Like, you're a beautiful girl in high school. I've known you for years.

Starting point is 01:30:55 I said, you got a man? No. You got a kid? No. You want kids? Yeah. So how old are you? 42, 41, 38, 39, 44.

Starting point is 01:31:06 I said, you get, you freezing your eggs? I swear. I'm asking women these questions these things. You're in Genuine. They go, yeah, I'm freezing my eggs. Wow. I'm like, and this is happening more, and more companies are even actually paying for women

Starting point is 01:31:20 to freeze their eggs because they want you to work. They want you to work. Be a boss, baby. You don't need no man. Get your you to work. Be a boss babe. You don't need no man. Get your money girl, whatever. Get that bag. And then it's like, well, let's find out what's actually happening to these women.

Starting point is 01:31:30 Turns out these conversations, they're like, yeah, really, really fuck this one. I really wish that I didn't abide by the whole, I don't need no man. I'm not going to settle for no man because what's happening right now is all these boss babes, these feminists, they and getting indoctrinated into this, the future's female, you don't know man, you can do it, which is great to a certain extent. But when you hit quote unquote the wall,

Starting point is 01:31:53 you know as a woman and next thing you know you're 40 and you don't have no man and you've got three cats and a couple of dildos hanging around, I'm just saying, it's like all of a sudden you're like, I probably shouldn't have hated on men all that. And a couple of the eggs of the free. Yeah, and the eggs are in the freezer. But so part of what Tate says, and this white pisses women off, is that he says he'll says things that will what's the word that's the word of the year when you trigger somebody

Starting point is 01:32:18 or you troll when not to go. When you gaslight someone. Exactly. He'll say like and he said this in the interview rather than saying men are stronger than women, which I think we can agree men are stronger. Women is like controversial. He'll say things like women are weak. Yeah. Or rather than saying that men are better drivers than women, he'll say women can't drive.

Starting point is 01:32:36 I got you. So that'll trigger a lot of women. And I think essentially what is message is though, and what my message is, I think anyone's message is that men and women are equal, but they're also different. This is called duality or polarity in life is that there's two sides of a coin right there's ying and the yang there's the sun and the moon there's the you know there's black and white wherever you want to look at it and they're both equal but they're different

Starting point is 01:32:58 and the problem that I think that he's saying while he's triggering so many women is he's basically he's kind of like they think that he's like dunking on, is he's basically, he's kind of like, they think that he's like dunking on women. And that's not necessarily the case. He's saying there's things that you're qualified for better than a man. And there's things that men are qualified better for a woman. And for example, like you'll have to see these conversations

Starting point is 01:33:16 with feminists, it's like, what do I need a man for? What do I need a man for? It's like, well, the office that you're sitting in, the whole fucking building was built by a man. The roads were built by a man. By the way, when the bad guys come and attack you, the whole fucking building was built by a man, the roads were built by a man. By the way, when the bad guys come and attack you, the women aren't running, the women go get,

Starting point is 01:33:29 if there's a ship that's sinking, the women and kids go on the safety raft, the men go to war. So it's like all this shitting on men is becoming like to the point where this is what produces a date. The same reason that an Obama will produce a Trump, the same reason that modern day feminism will produce a date. The same reason that an Obama will produce a Trump, the same reason that modern day feminism will produce a date. Anyway, my question for you is,

Starting point is 01:33:50 you need a woman, that's what you're trying to say. Of course, I need a woman. So what you're saying is a famous philosopher said years ago. This is a man's world. It's a man's world. It would be nothing. Nothing. Nothing without a woman or a girl.

Starting point is 01:34:04 Yes. And I fully endorse that. But he gets down to his own business. So by the way, I don't know if, unless there's something that has fundamentally changed, it takes a man and a woman to create a baby. Yes. I know a lot of people can play this.

Starting point is 01:34:16 I'm gonna sign in class today, guys. Signs class. But here's my question to you. I've been waiting for. Yes. Well, here you go, you know. You have two boys. Yes.

Starting point is 01:34:24 You have two girls. Yes. If Senna, or if any of, like any girl go, you know, you have two boys. Yes. You have two girls. Yes. If Santa, or if any of Santa, like any girl comes to you and says, the future's female, future's female, like what would you explain to your sons when they say, well, I don't know, Dad, all these girls are here in class at the future's female. What does that mean for me as a boy,

Starting point is 01:34:42 as a man who I would say there's a leader, a qualified man, a man amongst men, the type of man that men wanna be like and women wanna be with type of a thing, what do you explain to your sons when you hear that the future is female and men are now becoming second class citizens? I mean, that's gonna be the last concern of mine

Starting point is 01:34:59 when it comes up because we're gonna talk about all of these issues when they do come up. Yeah, you're just gonna have a conversation with them about it. There's value in areas that women lead and there's going to be areas that you lead in. I'm not going to sit here and say one is great at everything and the other sucks. No, there's certain roles that we play. Those conversations are already being had in our household. If you raise them right to late-teens from there, they're going to make some decisions. Some of them you can agree with. Some of if you raise them right to 18, from there, they're gonna make some decisions.

Starting point is 01:35:25 Some of them you can agree with. Some of them you're not gonna agree with. Do me a favor, go back to Mario and the falls, tweet. He just posted something I wanna show this. Go back to, yeah, he just said, click on it and go back yet to see whatever he, go down, go down, go down. He just said, yeah, keep going down, keep going down, keep going down.

Starting point is 01:35:40 Ah, keep going down, keep going down, keep going down. There's, they just invited me on the life today for 2 p.m. Keep going the lore, keep going the lore. It's like two hours ago. You still gotta go. Keep going, keep going, keep going. Who is this Mario and the fog guy? He's actually very good citizen journalist online.

Starting point is 01:35:57 Okay, so today will be more release remaining authorities. The rest will be likely prolonged to 30 days. A few times, max is 180 days as investigations continues, unlikely to get bail and they face up to 20 years in jail. That's yesterday, nine hours ago, is what they were talking about, okay. What the Romanian attorney was talking about. You can't get on bail when you're facing charges for crimes that have a direct intention, both rape and traffic fall into this category. Crimes that could be punished with more than seven years a direct intention both rape and traffic fall into this category of crimes that could be punished

Starting point is 01:36:26 With more than seven years of prison both rape and traffic are five to ten years now. Here's a part I just got a couple messages from people in Romania. Here's here's what couples said One is Please do not mention my name. I will not mention your name on who you are, but this person lives in Romania Please do not mention my name. I will not mention your name on who you are, but this person lives in Romania, okay? He said he has been connected with the Romanian elite. Who is the elite in Romania? The Orthodox Church The politicians the police. He made huge donations to the Orthodox Church. However, he recently converted to Islam Romania is one of the most Christian countries in the world and he may have pissed off the wrong people

Starting point is 01:37:07 His conversion to Islam was a slap in a face to many high-profile religious persons in Romania. This is just my own insight. Okay. Good opinion. Yeah. That's one that was said, now another one that just came in right now saying, it's not going to be about rape allegations and any of this stuff. It's going to be more about money laundering.

Starting point is 01:37:20 You got to be careful with money laundering. Taxes. That's where they get you. But listen, here's the other part. If the government really wanted to get you, really, really wanted to get you, they can figure out ways to say you didn't, $22, you didn't pay 17 years ago in taxes and you know, you're short on this. Again, there's so many creative ways for them to come after you if they choose to do so. It's not hard for them to do it. So the louder you are, the more targets you got, and the louder you

Starting point is 01:37:53 are, your biggest insurance policies is to make sure some of the biggest institutions in the world have your back because behind closed doors, they got to be negotiating. Britney Grindr, how long did it take her to get out? Six months. Seven months, almost seven. It's a long time guys. Of course. That's not a, you know, and what did US have to give up?

Starting point is 01:38:10 In our, in a leg, in the merchant of death. Well, first of all, horrible negotiation on nearly 10 months by the way. 10 months. Oh wow. Horrible negotiation on our rent, okay. I wanna know what we were given up for LaBron. But, but Grindr, Yeah, ex out. Lebron wouldn't have stayed for a second.

Starting point is 01:38:28 Not even not even a city. Me, Lebron's got the most powerful institutions that have his back. He wouldn't stay for a split because he has good relations. Yeah, good alliances with all this. He wouldn't stay for split second because he's got a line call back strategy. It's all in strategy in the next move. If this thing ends and he's out, he has to change his strategy. He has to take a week off and purely decide where he's going to be building his alliances.

Starting point is 01:38:52 Does he stay in Romania? I don't think so. I think you made a great point here because I'm just going back to the interview we had. The reason that he lives in Romania is because it has traditional values. He was Christian at the time and he says that it's like the most Christian place in Europe and they value Judeo-Christian values and everything like that. So what you said about the fact that he did convert to Islam, I don't know about 30, 60 days ago, that I can appreciate why the Orthodox Church of Romania

Starting point is 01:39:26 views that as a slap in the face. Is that what the guy basically said in the tweet? Yeah, because he said that, and my dude, you said the Christian, they're running the show over there. Yeah, when he gets out, you know where he's moving? Dubai. Dubai or Sweden?

Starting point is 01:39:40 No, I don't know about Sweden. But yeah, he's moving to Dubai. I would, as a Muslim, a wealthy guy, he's gonna, yeah, Dubai would probably be the spot. I'm curious to see what do you guys think? Will he do any time? Like not this 30 day whatever. I'm talking about will he be sent to prison in Romania?

Starting point is 01:40:00 I'm curious to know what people are doing. I don't even want to speculate on that because essentially what Pat's saying is like, look, he might have done this. I hope it's not true. I'm not to know people. I don't even want to speculate on that because essentially what Pat's saying is like, look, he might have done this. I hope it's not true. I'm not wishing anything bad for the dude, you know, good relationship with him, but it's like, it's one of those things where it's like, like what you were saying is like the

Starting point is 01:40:16 government will do it. Like you can go back and they found $20 that you didn't like, report on your tax, yeah, your W2 1099, whatever it is from 14 years ago, they'll get you. Of course. If they want to get you, they will get you, even if you are innocent. That's the scary thing right now, is that he's poking the bear so much. Shut up, dude. Yeah, well, I mean, but here's the other thing, like the guy has basically predicted everything

Starting point is 01:40:40 that's going to happen. So that goes back to my question. I was like, bro, you did what you did. You knew the consequences. You already set up, he already says that the three tears of the life, the matrix, they cancel you, they put you in prison, and then they're gonna try to kill you

Starting point is 01:40:57 if you get out of prison. Do you know what I mean? So it's like, he was doing it to do it to get the eyeballs and be infamous and he's that guy. But number But number two is like are you ready to get the real like repercussions of your actions? Because yo either he's like a modern day, you know masculine he wants men to be men and he's sticking up for for that generation or he just like Hey, I was just trying to get eyeballs and now it's like oh shit. This thing is this thing is gone real so I Don't know it's gonna be an interesting next couple of days.

Starting point is 01:41:25 Did you guys find out who in the government held Fauci accountable, meaning who played a role to hold Fauci accountable? No, no, no. Oh, what do you mean? Did you see who you reported to that held Fauci accountable, the story? Have you guys seen this or no?

Starting point is 01:41:41 Okay, so go to Twitter, go to, let me find this for you. Which by the way, it's kind of weird when you see this story here. I'll send it to you. Very, very weird story and then we'll look it up. We'll validate it. We'll go to snopes to see if there's any credibility behind this. When I show this to you, you're gonna say, don't say it, so the audience can see it for themselves. Okay. It's a very, very weird person to report to. Got you. Okay. And he just, he just, today was his last day, right Pat? Fauci's done today. Today was the day. Bye, bye. Is that why you were a little bit emotional?

Starting point is 01:42:11 I was so, I could not, I couldn't even, I couldn't even drink my tea. I saw that when I came and I just kind of walked away. I didn't wanna, I don't wanna, the little rat is gone. Yeah, I didn't wanna, I didn't wanna go to, because I just saw that I saw what you were going through. No, the craziest thing about a musk, he must tweeted this. If you can find this, I don't know if you can find

Starting point is 01:42:33 this or not. He just wrote four books and wrote one. No, he posted a tweet saying the person that Fauci reports to, that holds him accountable in the US government is his wife. Okay, is that the one? Yeah, right. There's zoom in on that one right there. Is that the one? Okay, the first sentence of New York Times profile,

Starting point is 01:42:59 the walls in Dr. Anthony Fauci's home, office are adorned with portraits of him, drawn in pain it by some of his many fans. He loves himself. Yeah, but there's a story he posted. Where is this? I mean, I hope he didn't take it down. Keep going, keep going, keep going.

Starting point is 01:43:14 There's a story about who he reports to. Oh, you gotta find this. Ilan is too active on Twitter, man. He's off. I mean, he owns it. He's way, but he's using his product. I mean, it is what it is, but yeah, it's a story that came out about who his direct report is. Man, this is like four days ago. Trying to go far back to see if we can find it.

Starting point is 01:43:40 Okay. Well, why don't you go to Fauci's Wikipedia? Go to Fauci's Wikipedia, you'll find it. Go to Fauci's Wikipedia. You can't wait. Okay, go to Fauci's Wikipedia. And you see, go to his wife, to the right, who he's married to. Okay, zoom in a little bit so we can see it. Christi Grady, right? Okay, so who's Christi Grady? Go to Christine Grady. Watch this. Hmm, zoom in. Christine Grady is an American and bioethics who serves as the head of the Department of Bioethics at the National Institute of Health Clinical Center. NIH. NIH. Wow. So her job is to hold him accountable. What? Did you? Did you? Did you just, okay, so the basic the the HR of your job is your wife

Starting point is 01:44:29 There's no country. There's no conflict of interest there. No way. Are you are you kidding me? Can you like that? That's that can't be real. No, no that is real that is real But go to you know, I'm also he's used to discovery about the liar Anthony Fauci. Okay. Let's see what this says here go You know what I'm using is you just cover about the liar Anthony Fauci. Okay, let's see what this says here go zoom in Fauci was untruthful to Congress, but we'll hand lab research new documents a priest to show but but go keep going keep going keep going keep going keep going keep going No, no keep going the one I want to see about is his connection with his wife. That's all I care about in this story I'm gonna go back to the connection with his wife well if your wife is overseeing your good and bad,

Starting point is 01:45:08 there's how the hell do they let that happen? See, this is the kind of stuff that a person that says, what's wrong with that? Yeah. Listen, you're part of the problem. 100% If you don't have the ability to question stuff like this, you're also part of the problem, right?

Starting point is 01:45:23 They're zooming on the bottom, right? They're bottom, bottom, bottom, bottom, bottom. No, no, problem, right? They're zooming on the bottom, right the bottom, bottom, bottom, bottom, no, no bottom, right, they're zooming. Almost no one seems to realize that the head of bioethics at the NIH, the person who is supposed to make sure that Fauci behaves ethically is his wife. What the hell is his wife this whole time? Don't don't don't don't don't function in this context. It's just another way of saying bio weapon.

Starting point is 01:45:44 Some good nuggets and an article important to note that Fauci Off their 2012 paper Arguing for gain of function research Obama wisely put this on pause But Fauci restarted it so go back to a Wikipedia. Let's read a Wikipedia a little bit more Okay, so zoom in go go actually to our Wikipedia. This is the ghetto version of it go to the real version This is just pdf. Go to go to file. Go to yeah, right there. So let's read the zoom in, zoom in, zoom in, let's read it together. Guys, we're going to have a quick reading here. Grady was born and raised in the church. Okay, graduate from the ring and I was okay.

Starting point is 01:46:20 Go to career, go to career. Grady has worked in nursing, clinical research and clinical care with a specialization in HIV. She was a commissioner on the presidential commission and for the study of bioethical issues from 2012 to 2017. That's Obama until Trump showed up and she probably got fired. Grady is a member of the national, maybe she got a promotion, which is great to member the National Academy of Medicine, a senior fellow at the Kentucky Institute of Ethics, and a fellow of the Hastings

Starting point is 01:46:49 Center and American Academy of Nursing. She received the National Institutes of Health, CEO Award in 2017, and the Directors Award from the same organization in 2015 and 2017. Gradius Mary to Anthony Fauci, an American and an Immunologist, and a head of National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institute of Health, they have three is Mary to Anthony Fauci, an American immunonologist, and a head of national institute of allergy and infectious diseases, at the National Institute of Health, they have three daughters together.

Starting point is 01:47:10 Little weird. What do you mean a little weird? Well, I actually wanna give you some feedback on this. Tell me. Okay. The more and more I read all this, I'm just going back to your theory on alliances. There's an entire alphabet soup of alliances right there.

Starting point is 01:47:26 The NIH, the DEH, the four of the FDA, the FEC. They're all connected. Fauci, whether he is guilty or not guilty of doing whatever it is based on those alliances. He's all the alphabet soup that's gone out there. Untouchable. Nothing's happened. Exactly.

Starting point is 01:47:43 Nothing's happened to Fauci. Listen to me. Untouchable. And you know it's crazy Nothing's happened to folks. Listen to me. Untouchable. And you know it's crazy. He yells at people when he's in Congress. By the way, why don't you type in Fauci wife snopes. Fauci wife snopes. Let's maybe there's, is that snopes?

Starting point is 01:47:54 Did it personally approve the files? No, now that one is factually. Post falsely linked Fauci's wife to FDA vaccine. No, the doctor wants to file, she's wife, Reuters. No, I want to know if, and they're not wife, Reuters, no. I wanna know if, and they're not just, is the head of US and food, yeah. They're not even, so if you go on snopes and you type in Fauci,

Starting point is 01:48:15 Fauci, that's insane, wife, did Biden's and Clinton was the only thing on the Fauci was on. Yeah, I mean, look, they, they, they, they, they don't even have a story on it, you know, that's even a bigger concern that they're not even addressing it. Anyway, I don't know. I think, I think it's not good protocol in the company, 48 charge to be the wife

Starting point is 01:48:35 and the guys making all the decisions. Clearly, yeah. The charge is kind of sitting there. And especially when you and I taxpayers are paying for it. You know, if you're sitting there saying, what's wrong with that? Again, you're part of the problem. Yeah. I agree 100% like and now, and I said this the other day, I'll ethics. What do you like? She's, it's not even that. It's like, I said this the other day. Now everybody's like with Elon with the twit with the dumps and everything is out. We know

Starting point is 01:48:59 now it's like, hey, we got you. It's like the Wizard of Oz Pat, the curtains open. Now we see, oh, look at what you want you what you asked Well, we're doing and now nothing's gonna happen the Republicans are gonna take the house What are they gonna do? They're gonna sit them down in the chair Congress they're all gonna yell the Democrats are gonna stick up from Because they use him to bring in their shit the Republicans are just gonna bark bark bark bark bark nothing will happen Fauci is gonna walk free because Adam you nailed it. His alliance is broke, he's untouchable. Untouchable, bro.

Starting point is 01:49:29 His wife is HR. Yeah, that's right. That's like the wizard of Oz at the end of the day, he's married to the chief of police. Like, you're good, dude. Don't worry about it. Yeah, nothing's gonna happen. Pat, you're a dog's guy.

Starting point is 01:49:40 Obviously, I don't, I think it's fair to say that you're not a fan of Fauci. Fair? I'm not a fan of anybody that puts force. Got it. Yeah. You're an odds guy. I, you know, I like to reference Vegas for odds. What are the odds that Fauci will face any penalties, criminals, monetarily, anything? Exactly. Feet finds, any, any finds, criminal, anything like that. Fauci faces any of that. Less than 5%. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:50:03 So, you know, I'm not going to say that, you know, I'm not going to say that, monetarily, exactly. Feet finds any, any finds criminal, anything like that. Fauci faces any of that. Less than 5%. Oh, you're putting it that high. Yeah, less than 5%. Less than 5 is, I mean, good, good, good, good, good, good. I know, I know what you're doing. I know what you're doing.

Starting point is 01:50:16 When you, when you're a bureaucrat, like, like, uh, Fauci is, and you've been around for how many presidencies? Seven? He's been around. For a long time, my question is this, like, do they basically sit you down and they say, hey, listen, whatever we want you to do, you're, cause you're the voice, you're the head doctor on the, like of the NIH,

Starting point is 01:50:36 whatever you say is set in stone. You do this and no matter what, you're never gonna see one day inside of a jail cell. Do you think that that conversation happens or is just an unsaid untold thing or they're just like, hey, bro, year of Democrat, we got you, just don't ever f us up. Do you know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:50:54 Do you think that conversation happens, Pat? With him? With him now, man. You don't think, by the way, here's what I do think, what I do think will happen when you and I are 62 years old, okay? We're gonna be at the movie theaters, watching the movie called. Avatars 30? COVID-19. what I do think will happen when you and I are 62 years old. Okay. We're gonna be at the movie theaters, watching the movie called...

Starting point is 01:51:07 Avatone 30? COVID-19. Yeah. That's what the movie's gonna be about. No joke, I'm telling you. Okay. He's gonna be dead and someone's gonna have the courage to make a movie on some kind of a stream of service that's, you know, on the right.

Starting point is 01:51:20 And we're gonna sit down, we're gonna watch everything about Fauci and you're gonna say, get the hell out of here. And most people gonna be like, ah, who cares? Life moves on. It was just 20 years ago. I don't give a shit about this. But some of us are gonna care about it. Like, for example, Argo. When I watch a movie, Argo with Ben Affleck, there's a scene where they're going to the embassy and they're getting out. My dad watched that movie emotional because his sister was in the embassy when they came in and she left and married a marine or some soldier in the US she left she went to Ohio. Yeah, she left the entire my dad's like I had to go pick her up and I had to do this and I had

Starting point is 01:51:54 to do that so but it took 30 something years until CI was able to make the movie our go. So maybe we're going to see the I said 62 years old I think we're going to be 74 years old when we see that movie about foul. By the way, how old foul she is now? 81. He's like 82. I just, I will find it ironic. There's some comedy, some sad tire here.

Starting point is 01:52:16 15 years from now, Anthony Fouchi's 97 years old. And he's got diabetes, he's got prostate cancer, he's got some heart issues, he's got a heart arrhythmia, he's got all these pre-existing conditions, but he'll die of COVID. Oh my God, that'd be so good. Just like, that would be, that would be,

Starting point is 01:52:34 it was a good death. No, it would be funny, as if the prescriptions come out saying he took Ivermectin, that'd be the best. That's even better. Oh my God. I think that's a real story. That's the real story.

Starting point is 01:52:45 But it's like Pat, and again, during the moment, during all the bias, all the media, all the everything, we're right, they got away with so much now. It's like it's so far away. People are like, man, we got other shit to worry about. We got other fish to fry, who gives a shit? Tay is sex trapping and Fauci, whatever.

Starting point is 01:53:02 I know people in California, Pat, in Glendale, California, that were putting Fauci's picture on, you know those lawns. Yeah. Like, I'm like, who the, he's not running for president. He's just a little guy that's ahead of the NIH. They were worshiping this guy, praising him. Yeah, I mean, even people that are,

Starting point is 01:53:21 that are putting Zelensky on their fawns. Oh, yeah, what do you mean? Zelensky's a gangster, where he came in and like a swatter pajamas, would a flag, tongue down, Nancy Pelosi and he left, bro, that guy's a gangster. It's gonna be, by the way, a lot of people, if you think about it, have stayed quite a little too long

Starting point is 01:53:39 on this topic here. A lot of people have been very quiet, not saying anything. Elon's tweets just kind of shows he's responding a little bit to the top because there's nobody that talks about Matrix more than one guy. Yeah, it's take one guy's the guy that talks about Matrix. I don't know how many. Lawrence Fishburn? You know, it was the first, you know, it was the first time I watch Matrix on the way to

Starting point is 01:53:59 interview him. Yeah, I was gonna say. I'm not seriously. I know this. And I'm like, I'm a guy that understands the whole concept of it, but the first time I ever watched Matrix, I'm like, this guy likes the movie so much. Let me watch it on the way to the trip.

Starting point is 01:54:12 And you're a movie guy, I can't believe I took it. I've never watched, I've tried watching Matrix so many fricking times. How'd you like it? First 30 minutes drives me insane, it's too slow. Movie starts too slow, I lose it. But I watched it, go ahead. Androtates Twitter account retweeted the Elon Musk meeting that we read earlier about an hour ago. Yeah, I saw that about what if I told you. Yeah, telling you right now, we

Starting point is 01:54:31 got to get Kiana Reeves on this. Please. Can we find telling you right now? Kiana Reeves, if you're listening to this, I know you're a big fan of the podcast. Is he? Yeah, of course. What can I wouldn't he? What do you talk about? Number one, business podcast in the world. Hello, business. Let's talk about doing something with the Matrix Kiano. I would love to have, that'd be great to talk to that guy. He's a G, every video I see of him,

Starting point is 01:54:52 either on a train in New York, giving people his seat, he's a G, bro. I really like him, because he knows about the Matrix. He gets it. Any other stories before we wrap up your wrap up? I don't know. We have anything else.

Starting point is 01:55:04 Here's what I will say. We thought that yesterday was going to be the last podcast of the year. This is now turn. I think this is the last podcast of the year. I would think us having to do another emergency tomorrow. What Elon Musk got arrested. I don't know. That's going to be. That's going to be a thing. But I will say I know there's a how many people are live with us right now. Shive 20. Okay. 20 about 20,000 almost. Hi guys guys. Thank you. We do this every Tuesday Thursday If you have not subscribed to PBD podcast or value payment, we'd appreciate a Sup, please. This is what we do around please. We appreciate you anyways

Starting point is 01:55:40 Having said that gang for those that tune in came in, have a great weekend, happy new year to you, have a blast, and we'll do this again next week. If something crazy happens, like such as hate messages me saying, do you want to do a live together? If we get a call like that, we may do an emergency podcast again, but aside from that, wish everybody a happy new year. Take care, everybody. Bye-bye. again, but aside from that, wish everybody a happy new year. Take care everybody. Bye bye.

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