PBD Podcast - Epstein Client List BOMBSHELL, Musk’s 'America Party' & Tucker's Iran Interview | PBD Podcast | Ep. 611

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

Patrick Bet‑David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick react to the DOJ’s stunning revelation that there was no Epstein “client list,” Musk’s launch of the 'America Party,' and Tucker's shocking interview with Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian.------👩 THE VT LADIES COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4kZ8e8L🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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I think I've ever said this before. Alright folks, hope you had a good happy Fourth of July. It's not like anything happened this weekend as if a You know musk maybe starting a new party called the America party causing the stock Tesla on Monday yesterday to drop nearly 80 billion dollars of valuation Just in a single day and then at the same time they dropped this one guy this they say they claim He's a bad guy now. He's not a bad guy. He's an okay guy

People are trying to figure this guy out his name is Jeffries last time I think it's called Epstein and they show a cell that he was in that everything's okay nothing happened to him then there's a minute break then it doesn't match the CBS one that they show where the cell was the windows are cut in different ways so how quickly were they able to cut the windows there's videos you know he's not guilty of doing anything, no blackmail, nothing like that. Market reacted. People are sitting there saying,

what the hell is this all about? Possibly the biggest fumble they've had of the administration so far because there's been so many contradictions. And what's so funny is, this is happening at a time where they're having so many other victories. Vinny's good friend, Bibi, was in town and had a meeting with the president and at the

meeting they explained the fact that he believes the president deserves a Nobel Peace Prize and that conversation took place. And there's a bunch of other stories that we're going to get into. So let me read off some of these stories for you guys here. Spike in Trump UGs, fleeing America but they'll quickly regret it. Scott Besson says, Dems who oppose Medicaid work requirements believe poor people are stupid, is what he said. Besson teases new August 1st deadline for tariffs as Fed share can't cut rates for Trump like Trump wants. Trump says U.S. to start notifying trade partners of tariffs as high as ready. 70%.

Trump's starting to notice how much money we're making off of tariffs. He's like, listen, let's raise it on everybody. Not necessarily everybody, but he realizes the income. Trump says tariff letters to 12 countries signed going out by Monday. Some people are saying that Scott Besson may be replacing Jerome Powell here soon. I think he was even asked about it. Tom will give you some insight on that. Musk's America party could split Republicans. Trump allies fear Elon Musk launches America. We got a lot of talk about that. Besson even reacts and says something that was very interesting. Mark Cuban may want to team up with Elon Musk. Think about that

one. Anthony Scaramucci may want to team up with Elon Musk. Think about that one. Anthony Scaramucci may want to team up with Elon Musk. Pretty much anybody who hates Trump and is angry with Trump may want to team up with Elon Musk. There's a lot of talk there. DOJ, I told you about Jeffrey Epstein, they found no Jeffrey Epstein client list and confirms it was suicide. Nothing, you know, it's like all these people that think something happened, nothing really happened. The Russia's minister dies by suicide

hours after getting fired by Putin. Can you imagine that? You lose your job, you're like, shit, I mean, they're gonna kill me. Let me just kill myself first. Boom, right? And then you got military experts weighing on China's new mosquito-like spy drones.

I don't know if you saw this one or not It's point six millimeters by the way point six millimeters Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khomeini Makes public first public appearance since Iran-Israel war started and doesn't at all say, you know death upon America It's a lot of loving chants, you know, freedom to America, love towards our friends Israel, very friendly, and then Tucker does an interview. You have a Pope Mobile, a little glass top maybe? Tucker does an interview.

And I need one. Tucker does an interview with the existing president of Iran, and Tucker asks him a question about what does death upon America mean? You have to watch this, it's actually comical for somebody who lived in Iran. You have to hear what he has to say. So Netanyahu heads to DC for the deal of the century. And then Ackman backs Adams to stop socialist Mamdani, calls on Cuomo to drop out. This Mamdani, a lot of interesting things coming up with Mamdani. Apparently when Mamdani went to Colombia, he was black, according to his application.

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Economy, all that other stuff. I've chosen to go into the Jeffrey Epstein story first with, you know, just, I know you don't want us to go this direction, but we'll do it. So here we go, story comes out, ABC News. DOJ-FBI review finds no Jeffrey Epstein client list, confirms suicide, that's the memo, that comes out, and Rob, I think you may have a video on this one.

Not just one. You got a lot of videos that we're going to be going through, folks, on this one here. So to remind folks, as we're going through this, Justice Department and FBI review ordered by President Trump, appointed leadership found no evidence that notorious deceased financier Epstein kept a client list of associates whom he blackmailed or conspired with to victimize dozens of women, stating that investigators did not cover evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties. The review released hours of reported perpetrated footage confirming Epstein died by suicide in Manhattan Jail

in 2019. The DOJ memo states, perpetuating unfounded theories about Epstein serves neither of those ends. Now, Turn to Jenna Pan-Bondi face criticism from Trump supporters for delays in releasing Epstein's case files, which she attributed to tens of thousands of hours. This is one of the videos. Rob, is this one the original videos when she talked about it? Yeah, so I have February, March, and April of this year, three different instances where

Pam Bondi talks about the Jeffrey Epstein client list. This is from February. Go for it. So this is the first one. Maybe releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients? Will that really happen? It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's been a directive by President Trump.

I'm reviewing that. I'm reviewing JFK files, MLK files. That's all in the process of being reviewed because that was done at the directive of the president from all of these agencies. So that's the first one. So have you seen anything? That's the first one. Then it goes to the next one.

Go forward, Rob. And the FBI handed over a couple hundred pages of documents. But you know, Sean, I gave them a deadline of Friday at 8 a.m. to get us everything. And a source had told me where the documents were being kept. Southern District of New York, shock. So we got them all by hopefully all of them Friday at 8 a.m. Thousands of pages of documents. I have the FBI going through them and cash is also now that we have cash here It's a game-changer of course and cash is going to director Patel is going to get us

A detailed report as to why so far we know now go to the next one Rob and this is after Oh Keith Media Group found the video. The restaurant, right. The restaurant. So after O'Keefe Media Group found the video, and Pam Bondi, this is what she had to say. Go for it. Yeah, the FBI, they're reviewing, there are tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn and there are hundreds of victims and no one victim will ever get released. It's just the volume and that's what they're going through right now.

The FBI is diligently going through that. I haven't seen that statement but I'll call him. You can pause that here. And then this is what Rob, this is? This is Alina Habba. this is her with Piers Morgan back in February where she talks about the Jeffrey Epstein client list and the names being revealed.

Go for it. But in this case, in Epstein's case, it is incredibly disturbing. We have flight logs, we have information, names, that will come out. Is it gonna be shocking? I don't see how it's not shocking that there were so many individuals that were hidden and kept secret and not been held accountable. Let's talk about the reverse. I believe in accountability. So you have to now go through your process.

Now, I won't say they're guilty until they go through their time in court, but again, now it's time for accountability. We have seen for so many years, Pierce in this country, many investigations, subpoenas, testimonies in Congress, et cetera, et cetera, but there's a general frustration with accountability. We take it halfway, we don't take it home. And I really believe that now with Cash and Pam,

there will be accountability. All right, so you can pause it. And now we got a lot of other clips, okay? Rob, if you can go to the one clip about the video released of the cell, okay? So they dropped the video footage of the cell, okay? Assuming this is the cell, but it doesn't match the one from CBS.

So what's the key factor here, Rob? Because it skips a minute, right? Isn't there a clip where it skips a minute and we don't see a minute of, okay, so this is the one that, tell us Rob, this is the one from CBS. Yeah, so 60 Minutes did an in-depth expose into Jeffrey Epstein's alleged suicide.

This was from the footage that they filmed at the prison that Jeffrey Epstein was being held at. They claim, CBS 60 Minutes claims this is the cell that Jeffreyff rebson was being held at they claim cbs 60 minutes claims This is the cell that jeff rebson killed himself in but if you take a look at the cct Of the footage that was released yesterday. You can tell the doors are different No, this is not even the same doors are different. The glass is different. The color is different The the wall is not flat. The other one is flat Press play on this one, right? And then you'll see right down here Pat where the timing is 1158 it counts all the way up to 1159 and skips 1159 to midnight keep a look at the left corner right there

So so minutes, so let's assume it was it it skips a minute doesn't match the one from CBS There's just so many contradiction. Maybe the biggest fumble. it's not maybe, it is the biggest fumble of the administrations One of the items that they were trying to attack and address So far in the first, you know, six months of being in office five and a half months of being in office Vinny your thoughts on this entire matter here There is a guy pretty short time. You guys are going to know uh, george Orwell was that his name ge George Orwell who said the party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes

and ears it was their final most essential command which basically means when the totalitarian regime wants full control it doesn't just lie it forces you to deny what you see and hear with your own senses okay I this is one of the biggest not only slaps in the face, I mean, I knew we were never gonna see anything, like the guy, suicide is self-in-jail, we were promised all this stuff, everybody's lying, okay, cash to tell, and we talked about this earlier, Pat, I wanna know, when they came in with all these promises, who is the main guy? Who is the top person? It's not Trump, I hate when people are like, oh Trump was with girl,

I don't wanna hear none of that shit, Trump was never with little kids. The left would have jumped on his ass earlier. Who is the main blackmailed person that's holding this from coming out? Who is the top? Who is the main person? Okay, because we all know you saw from Elena Habba, you saw him from PanBondi. He had cameras and they had terabytes, terabytes of information. That's a billion, billions of dollars of evidence on all these people, Pat. And Alex Acosta, do you remember this guy, Robbie? He was a DOJ official.

He gave Jeffrey Epstein a sweetheart deal in 2008. He was quoted by saying, he was told to, and I quote, to back off of Epstein because he belonged to intelligence. And then mysteriously, he had 11 months of DOJ emails to him in that time period that mysteriously disappeared. Then you have Maria Farmer who worked for Epstein who confirmed every pinhole, every area in there was recorded and they know it. So somebody has that and here's my think pack.

Stop gaslighting us. Stop bullshitting because we all know what the deal is, okay? We all know. And apparently, if you're a pedophile, your job should be to get as powerful and as rich and get into politics because rich pedophiles, you walk away and you dodge the raindrops. Nothing happens to you, you're untouchable. If you're poor, guess what? If you're a poor pedophile and you're broke,

you wind up in the freaking kitchen with Chris Hansen and they go, oh, sit down, and then they show you your text. It's disgusting. I think Pam Bondi and all these people, they have lied to us. She should actually resign, Pat. If that, at that level, if you're bullshitting us

and you're lying like that, resign. Dan Bongino, people are like, well, what do you want them to do? Is the whole system gonna come down? Dan Bongino and all are like, well what do you want them to do? Is the whole system gonna come down? Dan Bongino and all these people, if you're a real Christian, if you're a real person like that, Pat, I would come out and say the freaking truth and resign and leave and just tell the truth. The truth has to come out. And then notice how random it is, all this stuff's coming out and then Virginia Goofrey, what, two months

ago, she gets hit by a car, no police report, no nothing, and then she even says, she's like, I'm gonna die in the next couple days, and then she dies, and it's always this suicide stuff. It's just, I'm fed up with the BS. We all know, we all know what is going on, but we can't prove it. And now what's gonna happen to the American people? In a week, we're gonna forget about this.

In one week, you're gonna forget about them lying their asses off to us, and it's ridiculous. It pisses me off. Adam, thoughts? I knew Vinny was gonna be fired up about this. So, Jeffrey Epstein, at this point, I'm not even sure what's real and what's a rumor at this point.

You know, people like Vinny, and I mean this sincerely, wake up every day and they're like, where's the Epstein files? Where we we at? That's not me. This isn't in my top three things. But at this point with Epstein, we are not even sure what's real, what's rumor, what's myth, what's mystery. He's part monster. He's part complete mystery. We're not even sure what's happening. So what do you think he is? Here's what I think So let me bet let me let me let me just go down some facts here So we arrested the guy that had the ownership of the island the sex island. We arrested the lady

That was allegedly bringing women to the island to the sex island But we haven't arrested or hold it held anybody accountable for who was on the island. So there's a missing ingredient here. So what's the missing ingredient? It's, as I always say, follow the money. Who were these people? I would suspect are the richest, most powerful people in the world. So here it is. Who do you want to please? Who do you want to upset? You have the elites, and then you have what I would call the angry mob. The elites are whispering, ill bro, if you talking to this, I'm telling you right now, the mob are yelling, bro, I want to see the you're going to upset

somebody. So in my estimation, whether it's Pam Bondi, whether it's Trump himself, whether it's bond, you know, whether it's cash, they're saying the following, we're going to upset somebody here. If this thing comes out, we're going to have the richest, most powerful people in the world who we need, whether it's Bill Gates, whether it's Leon Black, whoever it is, we need them on our team because they know all the dirty secrets out there. We can't upset these guys. At the same time, we're going to upset some angry, loud mob type voices who are not going to let this go.

So there's these two competing voices. Who do you want to upset? Who do you want to please? Do you want to please the elites or do you want to please the mob? And at this point, they're just siding with the elites. At top on July 18th, get excited for the summer's biggest adventure. I think I just smurfed my pants. That's a little too excited.

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Do we know for sure if he was Mossad or MI6 or is truly an intelligence asset? We've got a lot of people who seem believable who say, look, this guy was intelligence. That's why I couldn't prosecute him way back when. And he got the little hand slap deal, and then it went away. And to me, that's kind of disgusting. I don't know for sure what happened. I don't know for sure where he is, but I know for sure one thing. You just put all of the facts as we see them.

Just Pam Bondi says this in a restaurant, says this to a camera, now says this. Cash Patel says this, and Dan Bongino says this. Cash Patel and Dan Bongino do an interview and they look like this. I can see all those facts and go, you know, this is fishy, this is terrible, this is horrible.

And I'm disgusted, and I'm really disgusted. History has allowed us to go back and look at the Warren Commission for what it was the Warren Commission was a Sham to produce a document about the Kennedy assassination Supreme Court Justice Earl Warren chaired it invited Alan Dulles to it who was tight with LBJ And now we know we know because certain documents have been leaked that the CIA and now we know, we know because certain documents have been leaked, that the CIA was with Oswald, helped Oswald in Russia, and we now see a few of these things to the point that if you

go to the National Historic Place at the sixth floor of the Book Depository in Dallas, you put on headphones and the US government, who runs the tour, tells you, you are about to hear multiple shooters and five, you know, gunshots. So now they're not even on one shooter Oswald. History has taken it down and then LBJ set up, it's just so funny. And then Alan Dulles, Gerald Ford was on the Warren Commission and they produce a document with a magic bullet. And we look back now and we say that there's no way that happened.

It was just a complete sham. And I feel like, is history repeating itself? With a, say okay, well we've looked at everything and never mind what we said publicly, never mind what you saw people do, never mind statements that have actually been made. You know what, there was nothing there, nobody was intimidated and there was no client list.

Are you kidding me, we got flight logs and now you're looking America in the face and you're saying this. Yeah, so Judge O'Brown was on Alex Jones, okay? And you know who Judge O'Brown is. We have him on the podcast. He was right here, he's right here. He was incredible.

And he said, Rob, I know it's a three minute clip, can you get to the point of when he actually, you find it, but here's what he says. He says the president is using all the information he has to hold the establishment accountable and, you know, what's the word, you know, not held hostage. What's the word? Leverage them the other way.

Leverage them the other way. This is his way of arresting and holding the establishment accountable. Now, to people who are in that game, there's a clip that Tate posted yesterday where he says, this is above your pay grade. You're not somebody that's gonna know what's going on. I don't know when he gets into it, when he talks about what's going on here.

If you don't know about it, you don't know about it. These are deals that are being done at the higher level. and he set this on the podcast when he was here with us Rob is this it? Yes, go for it I would argue it's a very similar scenario. It's all about money So about who has the money and controlling the money is America as a country prepared to upset all of its richest people. I a country prepared to upset all of its richest people? I don't know. Is it? Is it prepared to upset all of its richest people to appease bloodthirsty brokeies who don't even care about justice? They just want the drama. Another question, because I would argue that the murders that happen every day on the street are very interesting, but no one cares about that.

MS-13 and all this shit, no one's really cares about that, but this Epstein list they really care about. They want justice. Sure. But this Epstein list they really care about. They want justice, sure, but it's a drama. It's interesting. They want to find out. They're curious. And I'm asking you as a professional, you're in charge of a country.

Your primary objective is to keep your oligarchy happy, to keep the wealth inside of your nation, and to make them obey you when it comes to sanctions and such other things. And to ensure that the US dollar becomes and stays the predominant currency globally. There's a bunch of bloodthirsty brokeies on the internet who barely pay taxes who want to go through a list Who are you going to prioritize?

Who do you care about? I'm not saying it's fair. I got a question anyone who believes puzzle I got a question for you as you're going through this I Wrote out a tweet Rob if you can go to my to do you have the clip on what he says is that the main part or no? I'm still looking for okay, but I can get there go to go to the tweet if you could so I wrote out a tweet I'm not gonna go through the whole thing cuz it's long, but I shorten it for you When they announce what they announce right this is a terrible look for the FBI and the DOJ No one believes that not as haters not as supporters

Not including Jelaine Maxwell doesn't believe it so that's okay. I've ton of questions, but let's start with a few possibilities Maybe they're right. Maybe nothing happened. Okay. I doesn't believe it. So I said, okay, I have a ton of questions, but let's start with a few possibilities. Maybe they're right, maybe nothing happened. Okay, I don't believe it. Number two, maybe they know something the rest of us don't know. It's above our pay grade. Maybe. Maybe there's a ton of evidence of people being held hostage through Blackmail that helps keep the whole thing together, right?

Mossad, CIA working collectively together, Blackmail, accountable, hostage, whatever you want to call it. Fourth one, maybe he was actively working with Mossad sending intel to them to empower Israel. Maybe that's what it is. Here's a few other questions to continue. If there was nothing to recording found on Epstein, yet the FBI or DOJ want to gain trust from the people, arrange a Jolene Maxwell interview with somebody and put a lie detective desk there. Use Megyn Kelly. If you really want the American people to believe, do that.

Why did Pam Bondi act disturbed of what she claimed was found in those videos? Why did Cash and Dan Bongino, two men who were convinced of what really happened change? Three hours we spent with Mark Epstein. And when I'm talking to Mark Epstein, I ask him about a guy named Leon Black 150 a Leon mark Epstein Jeffrey Epstein's brother was at our cigar lounge just a few months ago We did a two-hour interview with the guy. Okay, no camera on him, Rob I think you were in the room when that interview took place. You didn't show his face. What's never showed his face We saw his face, but he never showed his face I asked him about why would Leon black pay your brother 158 million dollars

And then if you remember Rob, Mark Epstein brought up a name that we didn't even have any plans of asking about, talking about the fact that that guy may have taught him how to blackmail. Do you remember that name that was accidentally dropped? Do you remember the name or no? I don't, I can go back and find it. You'll find it, and then if you go a little bit lower,

if Musk is this confident about starting his own political party, did he get deep enough in the government in the first 100 days to find out for himself what happened with Epstein? Imagine if Musk got the intel. That's what makes that very clear. What if he has individuals in the inside of the FBI who saw everything and chose to resign to become a whistleblower to show what's in there?

If there's an enemy of the administration today that's capable of that, it's Musk. It's not like FBI agents make a lot. They make 80 to 150 a year. I have a feeling Musk would find a way to offer financial protection if things got nasty. My concern is things could get very ugly in ways that I don't want to type it out. So here's the thing. Which one of the guys, the cashes, the PAMs, the Bonginos, the Habas, put all these names, which one of them Vinny, do you think right now that knows all the dirt but is playing

ball because they know who they're holding hostage, who they got a briefing of the real powerful people to say, here's why we're all gonna take this position Which one of those characters that is on the administration is conflicted the most right now Let me ask the question one more time Tom Adam who who knows? That they know what happened whose names are on that list, okay Who is certain what they did to kids, who is certain the videos and all that stuff that's out there, who is conflicted the most and is having a hard time keeping their mouth shut right now deep down inside when they go to sleep.

Okay, great question by the way. I think the most conflicted is going to be Dan Bongino. I don't think he knows everything. You know who knows everything? Who? Pam Bondi. She is the number one law enforcement officer She was in Florida Pat on the cleanup of this whole Epstein thing

She knows where the bodies are buried so to speak, but I don't think she's conflicted because she's been involved all time I think damn Bongino, you know, I mean they asked him, you know I don't know who offered him the job and came in he's seen enough Pat where he's like, holy shit He's a Secret Service agent. He loves in. He's seen enough Pat where he's like, holy shit. He's a Secret Service agent. He loves America. He's a Christian. I think he is having the most, I could see it in his face. When you see Dan Bongino in the interviews now, he looks as if somebody has taken something from him. Like a part of his soul is gone. Like I think he, they pulled open the current and saw it and they said, shh, you can't say anything. I think it's him the most conflicted.

I don't think it's Cash. I don't think it's Cash. I think Cash is good in front of the camera and likes to talk a big game. I think Pam knows everything. I think Dan Bongino has seen enough to make him go, holy shit, but he's gotten the kibosh. And that's where I conflict with me, Pat, because my thing, and you know me, as a Christian, I'm sorry. I will go down with the, put me in jail, kill me, Pat, because my thing, and you know me, as a Christian, I'm sorry. I will go down with the, put me in jail, tell me, I don't care.

You have to say the truth. The truth has to come out. It has to. It has to. And I'll let them answer, Pat, because I want to ask you a question after too. So I'm, I see it differently in terms of person. Everything else that you said, I agree. And I think when you bring up faith,

I have faith in one thing, I have faith in the Lord God Almighty and he's gonna judge the people. And if Epstein was dirty, as the Lord said, if you cause one of these little ones to sin, it'd be better that you're bottom of the sea with a millstone around your neck. And no one understands that verse.

They think, oh, it's better, you die that way? No, no, you drown in the first 12 feet. What he's saying is it would be better that you're at the bottom of the sea, hidden where I cannot find you, where the creator of all doesn't find you. Now, so I agree with you on the face side. When I look at the human side here,

I see dramatic, we've spent time with Dan. We've spent time at UFC, he's been here, we've looked at him, and I'll tell you, I see a guy whose countenance has really changed. And so I think there's something there. But I also saw the interview with Cash on the Kennedy stuff, and he sat back on that couch and he looked around and he said, you're asking about a who. Remember this quote?

It's not really a who, it's a what. And then we had those other documents that came out that implicated the CIA. And so he said, yeah, there's more in there that is coming. And you could see he wanted to say something in that. And I think that he's in. But remember, where he came from, the reason he was nominated is because he was already knee-deep in some of it

Now he's neck-deep in it and sees it I think cash is one there that has wanted to say some things and I also think You know our friend, you know a noble servant in the Secret Service I think what's going on there at damn bond Gino is a tremendous difference in his countenance But I also think that Andrew Tate makes an interesting point. Who are they protecting and what's being protected? Do we want the bloodlust of knowing everything out there? Or is there something bigger at play?

Obviously there's something bigger at play, but to your question, those are the people that I think are conflicted. Rob, did you find a clip of what he says? I do. I have it right here. Go for it. Here's Joe, Joe Brown. Of what happened with Smith and Mel Argo when the FBI raided it some years ago. And this thing that clearly they had no standing to go against about him supposedly having classified confidential documents when, as we have discussed, the President of the United States under the Constitution, as chief diplomat and commander in chief, has been held to have

absolutely unquestionable authority as to what he declares either confidential and secret or decides to declare is not such. So my sneaking suspicion is that a lot of what he refused to turn over to the archivist, which was unconstitutional in terms of what it was trying to put in place through statutory override of constitutional authority, which is wrong, is that there was wrongdoing that if he turned it over to the archivist was going to be turned over to the people who were recorded doing wrong and they would destroy it. So we had an obligation to the people who were recorded doing wrong,

and they would destroy it. So we had an obligation to the people. So he's basically saying that when Trump took those documents and all that stuff out, you know, and kept them in Mar-a-Lago or wherever, that a lot of that stuff had this type of stuff, the Epstein stuff, the Epstein information. And yeah, and Pat, just really fast.

And we kind of, we didn't gloss over it But that one minute Pat that one minute that they showed us this video that didn't promising us. Where is that minute? Why is it like I mean, what else could we do? Why can't we say okay timeout? Where is that one minute that you guys are trying to bullshit us and I it's in plain sight So you want to show this to us like we're gonna go, oh, whoops, there's a minute, let's talk, no, no. But the part of it, Vinny, that's so weird to me, is it's so sloppy. It is!

It's so sloppy, like you almost want people to stay skeptical. By the way, this is the guy that when I was talking to Jeffrey Epstein's brother, he talked about a guy that played the role of a mentor. I never brought up this name. He brought up this name. Steve Hoffenberger.

Hoffenberger. American businessman and a fraudster. He was the founder, CEO, President, and Chairman of Tower Financial Corporations, a debt collection agency which was later discovered to be a Ponzi scheme in 93. He's a rescue in the New York Post from bankruptcy and briefly on the paper towers financial collapse in 93 95 how please pleaded guilty to What does it say? Bill King investors out of 475 million dollars who was sentenced to 20 years in prison

Plus a 1 million dollar fine restitution, but if you go a little bit lower To what things he had problem there it is in 87. He met Jeffrey Epstein, a British defense contractor Douglas Lessie, who Huffenberg claimed was an arms dealer. Lessie was Saudi Adnan Khashoggi and Prince Bandir bin Sultan al-Saud architect and the billion dollar al-Yamar arms deal. Britain's biggest arms deal concluded. Huffenberg set up Epstein up in offices in Villers House. They unsuccessfully tried to take over Pan Am in a corporate raid with

Tower Financial and raiding vessels. Their bid failed in part of the 1988 terrorist bombing of Pan Am Flight 103. When you see the link between during this period Huffenberg and Epstein worked closely together and traveled everywhere on Huffmanburg's private jet. He began using the tower's financial funds to pay earlier investors and then in the court documents Huffmanburg claimed that Epstein was intimately involved in the Ponzi scheme. Epstein left tower's financial collapse and then Huffmanburg and some of his victims sued Epstein seeking restitution and in July 2019 followed Epstein's arrest on the charge of sex trafficking minors and conspiracy commit

sex trafficking. Huffenberg claimed that Epstein was his uncharged co-conspirator in the Ponzi scheme. So they're saying maybe he taught him some of these things. And this is coming from a brother when this name came up out of nowhere. I don't know what's going on here. I think it's the most sloppiest launch of a news that a big percentage of mega voters, Trump voters, wanted to find out these are people that are Christians, these are people that are family people, these are people that probably have kids, nephews, nieces, who wanted

to know what the hell happened here. This is by far the biggest fumble of this administration thus far. Adam? Well you asked the original question like who should be, how did you phrase it, who should be most worried? Conflicted. Who should be most conflicted? So you have Pam Bondi, you have Dan Bongino that you mentioned, you have Cash Patel. I think it's cash because I never even heard of Kash Patel until I heard him basically say, when I get in there, day one FBI, I'm coming in, I'm cleaning out. Everybody's was going to know what's going down and just add the Epstein to all the laundry list of conspiracies that we still don't know about. RFK, MLK, JFK, Roswell, Aliens, 9-11.

I don't know. Epstein's just now another thing on that list. In my opinion, here's what happens. You show up, you get to the government, you say, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this. And they Wizard of Oz your ass. And they go, yeah, tough guy. Yeah, you're real tough.

How about this? Take a look at this. Is this what you want to expose? You want to bring down America? When I bring down all these people, you want everyone to see what's going on? But Wizard of Oz shut your stupid mouth. And the guy goes, Oh damn. Oh damn. And at some point you're going to have to make the decision whether you want to do what Andrew Tate said, what do you want to appease the elites and the people

that are really actually running the country or appease the angry mob and the angry mom has a point and so do the elites and it's clear at this point who they're appeasing who is it they're appeasing the elite yeah because they know that the mob us we can't do anything but Adam I'm telling you as a Christian how do you think God feels about this situation how do you think God feels where people are like, well, we don't want to push off the rich pedophiles. So guess what?

The average American, the average person can't find out. And I have a question, and you know the old saying, Adam, and I said it before, let justice be done though the heavens fall. No matter what, no matter what, justice has to be held up, no matter the consequences. Number one. Number two. Here's my question, Pat. I want to ask you guys. What's worse that, allegedly, Mossad used Epstein to run a black male ring with underage girls, number one, or that the world's most powerful men eagerly joined while now the DOJ lies through

its teeth and buries the evidence? Which one's worse? What is worse? The actual Mossad secret Israeli intelligence setting them up to do it, or the guys doing it, the actual pedophiles, and now that the DOJ helps them cover it up. What do you think is worse? And Umberto, I asked Chad GBT, it was so random. I asked him yesterday, you know what Chad GBT, I'm sorry, what Groc said about this question.

Both elements are profoundly immoral, but the eager participation of powerful men and the DOJ's cover-up is worse. It betrays public trust, enables systemic abuse, and perpetuates injustice. Allegations of intelligence involvement remain unproven per FBI findings, but I beg to differ. Yeah, I mean, look, I understand the point,

and I understand what he's saying. My question is, once a person gets in, in a job like this, if you have people that are conflicted, they're gonna have a hard time. Are they gonna come out and release? And even go a step further. Let's go to the next step here, okay? Who was the most powerful person in Trump's administration?

Who was? The last one? The first one? This one. This one? Who helped the most with this election? Elon Musk, probably. Are they on good terms?

No. Was he happy with the big, beautiful bill? Absolutely no. Trump says it's because the EV stuff isn't in it, and Musk says it has nothing to do with that. I it's purely about spending money and so Musk tweets out about Epstein, okay, and he says well Here's a something for you the fact that Trump's on the Epstein list. Okay, so now Rob go to the go to that one What he just posted yesterday?

What's the time? Oh look, it's no one has been arrested o'clock again The Jeffrey Epstein pedophile arrest counter. Okay zero Who is he calling out Trump? Is he gonna keep pressing on this? Yes Who are the people that he's gonna gain? Is he gonna gain? he's gonna gain. Is he gonna gain highly influential people or is he gonna gain the mob by playing to this? The mob.

He's not winning the influential people, he's gonna win the mob. The mob is gonna be running towards him, right? Not the mob like the Sam and the Bull mob, I'm talking just like angry people. Angry brokies as the state calls it. So this is when the USA DJ found nothing, they put the whole letters in,

and I look at Musk in the bottom So um then what is Jelaine Maxwell in prison for stuff like this doesn't improve faith in the government. I agree That's one the first thing I thought about why is Maxwell in prison for 20 years by the way? She's in prison for for what and I know it's for you know find out what she's actually she's got five She's got five different counts on why she's in prison for I know what she's actually she's got five different. She's got five different counts on why she's in prison for You can type it in trafficking on conspiracy trafficking, but but I'm Yeah, okay. She's in prison right now for five different things

Let's wait for this Rob since Adam is asking Sex trafficking of minor. Yeah transporting a minor with intent to engage in criminal section three counts of conspiracy to commit Sex trafficking related felonies 20 or 750 thousand on a fine. Okay, so how much does this help? Musk's Desire to want to start a third party big time. So you just pissed them off with the BBB. If no promises were made, fine. Trump comes out and tweets out the following about Musk, because Musk ran two polls. One poll he ran about needing a third party. Rob, I don't know if you have the first poll. He says independence, not this one, Rob. There was another one, he runs the first poll about a third party, 80.4% people vote that they want a third party. That's for the 80% of Americans.

That's funny, he says about the 80% of Americans and exactly 80.4% of Americans voted. That's it right there. Is it time to create a new political party in America that actually represents the 80% of the middle? Exactly 80% of people voted and said yes. So then he puts the other poll. Independence Day is the perfect time to ask if you want independence from the two-party system, should we create America Party? Yes, 65.4%. Then he comes out and says, to do this, he comments on the bottom, one way to execute on this is to be laser focused to just two to three senate seats in eight to ten house districts, given the razor thin

legislative margins, that would be enough to serve as the deciding vote on contentious laws ensuring that they serve the true will of the people. Trump responds in his own truth social of what to say about this. And his response to Musk is, it's very long, and Musk responds to this as well. He says, I'm saddened to watch Musk go completely off the rails, essentially become the train wreck over the past five weeks. He even wants to start a third party despite the fact that there's never been, never succeeded in the United States. The system seems not designed for them.

The one thing third parties are good for is the creation of complete and total disruption and chaos. And we have enough of that with our radical left Democrats who have lost their confidence in their minds. Republicans, on the other hand, are a smooth running machine that just passed the biggest bill of its kind in the history of our country. It is a great bill, but unfortunately for Elon, it eliminates a ridiculous EV mandate which would have forced everyone to buy an electric car in a short period of time.

I have been strongly opposed to that from the very beginning. People are now allowed to buy whatever they want, gasoline powered hybrids or new technologies, no more EV mandate. I've campaigned on this for two years and quite honestly even Elon gave me his total and unquestioned endorsement. I asked him whether or not he knew that I was going to terminate the EV mandate. It was in every speech I made and in every conversation I had, he said he has no problem with it and I was very surprised.

Additionally, Elon asked one of his close friends to run the NASA. While I thought his friend was very good, I was surprised to learn that he had been a blue-blooded Democrat who had never contributed to a Republican party. Elon probably was also. I also thought it's inappropriate that a very close friend of Elon, who was in the space business to run NASA when NASA is such a big part of Elon's corporate life, my number one change, Rob, I can't read the bottom, camera's hiding it, number one charge, my number one charge,

can you read it, is to protect the American public. I think that's what it says. Okay, so that's what he puts. Elon responds back, I don't know if you guys saw Elon's response to that. He says, oh you should see what he says. He says, no no, not that one, it was street social, never heard of it.

No, he says, oh okay, I'm good you feel like that though, too long not that one. It's true social, never heard of it. No, he says, oh, okay, I'm good you feel like that though. Too long of a message. I'm glad you shared how you feel. Sarcastic towards it. All right, so now about third parties. What's funny is, do you know who was the last third party that was started that became president? Do you know who was the last third party candidate

that became president? You ready? You were ready? Never happened. 1860, a new party was started, the Republican Party, and Lincoln became president. So the last third party that was started that actually was succeeded is Lincoln,

who became one of the best presidents of all time. Before that was Democrats and Whigs, I think. Yeah, so the question becomes, is this gonna create enough of a Division to get some of the people from the MAGA side Trump side to want to run Towards him and some people from the left who don't have a place right now to say I'm gonna go join the Musk I mean mark Cuban comes out of nowhere and he says he'd be interested in the America Party. Scaramucci comes out of nowhere saying that would be interested in the third party. Andrew Yang came out. Mark Cuban says, I work with voter choice. This will help you get

on ballots. This is their mission. So there's the people who cannot stand Trump now are coming towards Musk. Tom, your thoughts. Third party and the whole falling out of how Epstein was managed, do you think that's going to influence Musk to go even further with America Party? Well, Musk has a chip on his shoulder because there's two sides to Tesla and I connected with a couple of people last night, was talking about it and they agreed with my take. My take is everybody's looking at the cars. It's not the cars. 60 percent, six zero ladies and gentlemen of the

high voltage chargers in America are owned and operated by Tesla under contracts with literally every other EV maker. So when you take away the EV mandate, you're not just, you know, causing issues with Tesla, the car company, you're causing issues with Vinnie Tesla, the gas station, the electric gas station. And so there's a lot of that in that and he's real upset about it. And there was an altercation with Scott Besson. Something happened, you know, did Scott Besson get under his skin or get into his right eye? You know, I mean, or maybe a little of both. Or did somebody charge somebody else? I

don't know. But clearly, you have a very angry, Elon. So now, he's angry. Now to answer your question directly, Pat. He realized how he could influence an election because he just did. He went out there with his money and his support and everything that went with it. Was it good that RFK walked on stage in Phoenix? Yes it was. Was that helpful? Yes it was. Was RFK trying to pull himself off the ballots but the Democrats wouldn't let him?

Remember? No, no, no, you gotta stay put. You gotta keep doing this. Yeah, there was that shenanigans going on. But Elon Musk learned through the election that he could influence it. And so now he's upset. He's pissed off for many reasons. His buddy, I think his reason Trump talked about that, I think his buddy not being on

NASA really upset him and the EV mandate is upset him. So if you're Elon Musk, it doesn't have to be rational, Pat, right? It's just, wait a minute. Did I help just you get guys get elected? And now I know we talked about the EV mandate, but this really screws with Tesla on both sides, the service station, the electric service station side and my cars. And now you won't even let me, I just helped you guys. I just helped you get a couple of guys home that Boeing couldn't. And so now you're not even going to help me maybe with one of my guys.

Isn't this the way it works? The life insurance industry and all these different industries have their desires in Washington and they talk to their senators and said this could help that could help now I talk to You and I don't get it. And now what's going on here? He's tapping in to America's feelings about fairness and he's connecting with that and he's got people that are coming up like Mark Cuban who is a dissatisfied guy on more far more left but a dissatisfied guy and so now we have this it's not as simple and I went back and looked at this it's not as simple as what happened in Connecticut in

Connecticut you know they got upset they are really upset with their senator and so they said we're gonna primary to primary you. And they did. And what happened? Boom. They got their guy on the ballot and he was primaried out. And then what he did? I'll run as an independent. And the rest of Connecticut came back and said, well, now that we can all vote, not

just the Democrats, we voted for our guy and suddenly we have an independent senator. So away we go. So you can see cases where it's happened and he's right about one thing strategically. I think he needs more than that. I think you need four senators and about ten seats. But he's not wrong in the point. We're only talking about the math here because I went back and looked at his math. But four and ten with the current fractured Congress and Senate, you could control a hell of a lot. You could control a hell of a lot you could influence a hell of a lot

Because you can be the deciding vote said nope you got to go back You know pork remember what we found out was in the inflation reduction act money for Ukraine. How does that? Well, guess what? It's in every bill So now these people in the America Party could go in and say hey I need this and I need this and now you've got our votes and you're over the top, but I need this. There's one thing. So you got Andrew Yang that started a party, right? Called the Forward Party.

And this is the whole UBI thing, right? Universal Basic Income when he had some momentum, but nothing's happened with the Forward Party. Nobody, Andrew Yang doesn't have to kind of wait that must-cast. The last most, closest thing to comparison you can make to starting a third party is Ross Perot Ross Perot spent 63 million dollars 60 million dollars in 1992

Running for office to become president and he got all the way up to 18.7 19 percent When he ran in 92, but he ran as an independent in 92 then two years later He starts a new political party called the reform party And he spent 10 or 15 million dollars to start a Reform Party and he runs again in 96, but in 96 with a new political party, Reform Party, he only gets 8.4%. Now to compare Ross to Musk, Ross was worth three billion dollars at the time. What's three billion dollars, Tom, in 92 and today's money? Three billion and 92 in today's money, say at the low end, six billion, at the high end, 20 billion.

Is that fair to say? I think it's probably around eight. Let's do it. Can we do the calculation? I want to say ten. Okay. So let's just say, okay, three billion in 92 would be $6.7 million today. No problem. All right. So let's just say he's worth seven billion. Musk today is worth what? What is Musk worth today? Six hundred. That's, you know, he's worth $300 billion, $400 billion,

some number like that. Remember, Tesla lost $80 billion of valuation yesterday. So what's his net worth today? Musk is gonna be roughly $346 billion net worth, okay? He lost $15 billion yesterday, devastated financially, right? Obviously he's not. He's got $350 billion okay so he's got about a hundred times more

money than Ross Perot had now what did Ross Perot have that Elon doesn't have what's the one thing Ross Perot had when he started a political party that Musk doesn't have one thing you know what it is Ross Perot is an actual natural born born citizen which means later on the Reform Party, you know what happened? When was the last time you heard about the Reform Party? Nothing. Pat Buchanan, there was a fight, you know, I can't believe this, I can't believe that,

and it completely disappeared. So say Moscow starts a political party, Then he needs a face. The person to be the face to run to become a president for him, he has to assume that person is going to listen to 100% of what Musk tells him to do. Who's going to be that person? Think about what I just said, okay? He has to assume, Tom, that whoever he gets has to listen to a hundred percent of what he says who's that going to be Vivek I don't think so

Vivek has got a strong personality is he gonna go after JD Vance cuz some say that's his candidate through Peter Thiel who's he gonna go get so you go start a political party who's gonna be the main guy who's gonna be your guy I don't think it's Vivek so I don't think it's a strong and again the challenge no matter who it is though what bothers Ilan is that you don't do you have to do a hundred percent of what Ilan believes mm-hmm or else what's the point of him starting a political party you're right think about what I'm saying to you right now is he gonna be able to control a hundred percent of any individual that runs? So here's what happens, they get into the

office, what's the first thing people gonna say? Hey man, I just want to make sure you're not owned by Elon, are you? Are you your own man? I'm my own man. I've been saying this since such and such. Really? So now what's Elon gonna do? Attack him again? Yeah, exactly. But doesn't matter, you can attack again. He doesn't have to listen to you anymore. Yeah. So then in his mind, he's gonna be like, well then maybe I need to get into the blackmail business. Yeah, I was just gonna say that,

record him doing something crazy. Maybe I need to get into the blackmail business that I really can't have 100% control of you. There you go, that's how it works. Do you know what I'm saying? So eventually, the only way you can get a candidate to do 100% of what you tell them to do is you Gotta have some blackmail on them. Damn, right?

Because you're not born here So how much money you think you long would be willing to spend to change the laws for him to be able to run for office? A billion dollars how much money think you would spend? Because that's the only thing that's in his way Hopefully the answer is zero because if you're not born in America I don't think you should be able to be president. I'm asking you how much money do you think he would be willing to spend to pass a law where somebody like him can run because then and only then would he be able to control exactly what policies would get passed if he was in? Well, if he had the ability to run as president, I think he would spend all his money.

I agree. Not all his money, I think he'd spend $50 billion. I think he'd spend $50 billion. I thought you were talking about who to put for another candidate for himself. I remember, we were talking about Congress. Oh, for him. For him, for him to run.

Oh, a 50 would be, because think about it, he just lost 80 just on a stock I think he owns what 15 percent of Tesla whatever the number is yeah so the thing that I keep going back to is something that you basically told us at the beginning of the year the concept of signal versus noise so Kevin O'Leary actually just came out it was a great story he told about Steve Jobs about I guess he worked for Steve Jobs and he talked about how Steve Jobs we called an asshole by the way had this unique ability to stay focused on the signal and tune out the noise and he basically edifies Elon he goes Elon Musk does it

better than anybody the way that he has the ability to just tune out all the noise and and focus 100% on signal so my counter argument to me with that is him forming this third party, this a new America party. Is this signal or is this noise? To me, it's kind of a lot of noise. Because if you look at his, how much money did they lose in Tesla just now? $80 billion? All right, let's see how much they lose today. There's a lot of people who are part of his companies that are like dude Did you hear what this stuff? Play what Scott Besson said watch if you have that. Yes, God's best and said they asked him about

Musk starting a third political party. Watch what he said here It's not a big secret that you had your differences with Elon Musk when he was working in the administration He announced this weekend that he is starting a new political party. Does that worry the Trump administration? Look, the principles of Doge were very popular. I think if you looked at the polling, Elon was not. So I believe that the boards of directors at his various companies wanted him to come back and run those companies, which he is better at than anyone. So I imagine that those board of directors

did not like this announcement yesterday and will be encouraging him to focus on his business activities, not his political activities. Yeah, I fully agree. I fully agree with you. By the way, I think Scott Besson already knows the answer to that question. Yeah, think about it.

If you're Elon Musk, talk to me. Board members and everything and everything connected in the legislative world, excuse me, the compliance world that is Wall Street. You don't think Besson has heard whispers from some people that are on those boards? Of course. Tesla, space, the Tesla board and the compensation committee that said no, Neuralink, boring company, Starlink, Twitter, X, XAI, all these companies need to be run. And now he's completely focusing on the noise that is this third party. But I guess it all depends on the objective.

If you want to sort of just shape the narrative or shape policy, there's a possibility to do that with a third party. But your chances get lower and lower and lower, the bigger your dream. So if you want to have seats in local or state Congress are great We can make that happen if you won't even get on the stage the presidential debates aren't Ross Perot did it I don't know but to win electoral votes zero percent chance Nobody's ever won an electoral vote since basically the Civil War to win the presidency zero percent chance So it seems like a pipe dream to me, but if you want to affect change locally, all right

Let's see what happens with you. Elon needs to read the book that one of my friends You know him Patrick by David Rhodes called choose your enemies wisely This is the worst enemy to pick is Donald Trump This is the worst enemy to pick the whole third all this all this nonsense It's like bro, you got allegedly got punched in the face by Scott Bessett just move on his son. He said it was his four year old son. Well listen, but here's the thing, Trump is not the guy to go to war with in this arena. I'm sorry.

Republicans, Ohlone has, then the MAGA, it's like, bro, it's not going to work. Again, you nailed it. It's all noise. It's all noise. But you think Trump is really focusing, like Trump is going that way. How committed do you think Elon is to this meaning does he have the stomach to go through this and through this and through this at the expense of his board his shareholders his stock prices plummeting

plummeting plummeting at what point does he just bail nobody can pull the rip course guy he has it he has a stomach to go do it but it's his businesses may take a hit and he may find a different strategy to go do it, but his businesses may take a hit and he may find a different strategy to go about it. Right now you have to realize this is a guy that to have the level of drive that he has, that drive doesn't come just because you want to be somebody. That drive doesn't come just because you want to have money. That drive doesn't come because he wants a nice car and impress the girls. The guy's been with enough girls to where he can put that list together and impress

anybody else's list of girls that they've been with. This is about who offended him at what level. The guy's been offended at the highest level by the most powerful man in the world, Trump, and that level of being publicly humiliated and offended, he's not gonna let go. He's not. So what do you think? So you're saying he's being emotional? No, no, no, that's his fuel.

People run on different kind of octane fuel. Some cars can't run on the same high octane fuel as other cars run on. You put it in, it's just not gonna work. The engine's gonna. Some cars are EVs. Sometimes you need EV Mandy. This guy's a high octane offensive.

You offend him, he ain't forgetting about. Think about the, like Michael Jordan was known as the ultimate grudge guy. He held grudges at the highest level. This guy's on top of that because Jordan only held grudges in what highest level. This guy's on top of that because Jordan only held grudges in what sport? Basketball.

This guy holds a grudge in everything. In every single thing, it is not going away anytime soon. It's not going away anytime soon. And I have a feeling that one tweet, do you guys remember when he said, you guys have to realize, you have only Trump for four more years You got me for 40 more years. Yeah, he ain't lying He revealed so much in that one hour of all the tweets

You learned so much about every one of his motives and all of those tweets that he put up Do you remember which one I'm talking about when he said he trumps only 40, you know, you only have Trump No, he deleted the tweets. So my memory If you're asking a question I think this guy is just getting started and if he wants to start a political party the only thing and I guarantee This is the one right there Rob. You have it. This is when he says If you can find this Rob, I'm looking for an actual photo of the tweet. Yeah.

The tweet's gone. What does it say? The images should be, oh there it is. Is that the one? No. No, that's not the one. Oh, here it is, right here. Save that Rob.

Oh, and for some food for thought, as they ponder this question, Trump has three and a half years left as a president. I will be Iran for 40 This may be the most powerful tweet. He's ever tweeted that nobody paid attention to Look at that. No one paid attention. That's nothing 16,000 likes 2.6 million views normally that is nothing Nobody saw this this is exactly what you're going to hear about for decades to come.

You will see. That tweet will be showing for a very long time to come. Rob, save that tweet because that ain't going away anytime soon. This guy's got a chip at the highest level and he's going to be coming. And he's going to be recruiting. And he's going to be very aggressively recruiting. But he's going to have a wall he's going to hit. Tom, but he's gonna have a wall. He's gonna hit Tom He's gonna have a wall. He's gonna hit you know what that wall is. He can't be Ross Perot. Nope exactly and by the way It's not as simple as just passing a law He has to get you know Congress and the Senate pass it and then he's got to go through each state two-thirds of the US states

And then he's got to go through each state two-thirds of the US states Complicated very complex some states, Virginia very complicated each signature in Virginia. It costs you forty two hundred thousand dollars It's a it's a lot of work But if there is a guy that could pull it off Tom, it's this guy if there's a guy that could pull it off It's this guy now while that's going on Net Nya who comes to DC to visit. Text Vinny first, but he comes to DC to pay a visit to the president. Netanyahu heads to DC for the deal of the century.

Rob, is this the video that you got? Let me read this first to know what the context of this visit was. Vinny, do you know why he was in town? Do you know what the purpose of the visit was? I don't. I honestly don't know. Prime Minister Netanyahu was heading to Washington not just for a ceasefire deal with Hamas, but for a much bigger deal of the century, so to speak. According to Dan Decker, great last name, president of the

Jerusalem Center for Security and Foreign Affairs, he told ILTV News that this is a momentum play by both Netanyahu and the US President Trump. He said that Netanyahu has insisted on several red lines in Gaza over the last more than 20 months and one has been the elimination of Hamas as military and political power in Gaza. So he said if Netanyahu has really agreed to end the war, then Israel should expect to see the deportation of Hamas leaders from the Strip. Rob, if you can play the clip on there together. So I have four clips. Which one would you like? Bibi Netanyahu nominates Donald Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize right here.

So watch this one here. Go for it. you go for it. The president has already realized great opportunities. He forged the Iran Accords. He's forging peace as we speak in one country and one region after the other. So I want to present to you Mr. President the letter I sent to the Nobel Prize Committee. It's nominated you for the Peace Prize which is well deserved. It's nominated in view for the Peace Prize, which is well deserved. No Frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express.

Shop online and get $15 in PC Optimum Points on your first five orders. Shop now at NoFrills.ca. Thank you very much. I guess I didn't know. Well, thank you very much. I guess I didn't know. Well, thank you very much. Coming from you in particular. Radcliffe, CIT. Thank you very much. Thank you for everything you do.

So that's that. Nobel Peace Prize. That would be the day he gets the Nobel Peace Prize. You know how much people are going to lose their mind on the left. They're going to go crazy. The same way they lost their mind on the right when Obama got a Peace Prize because he did a speech at the Berlin Wall. Yeah. I mean okay listen I think Donald Trump deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for the last administration.

No wars, zero. Like, Solomon, he killed one person but like this is just he just helped bomb another country and he's offering him a peace prize. That's like giving Jeffrey Dahmer a Michelin star for his unique taste in meat. It's the wrong time. It should have happened four years ago. And I'm not saying it's not like they killed a bunch of people, but you just technically went to war.

How are you going to give him a peace prize? It doesn't make any went to war. How are you gonna give him a peace prize? It doesn't make any sense to me. So like I said, he deserves it for the last four years. He doesn't deserve it for right now. Press play on the next ones. Let's see what we got here. Do you think that there can be a two-state solution that creates an independent?

I don't know. I'd ask Mimi that question. You have the greatest man in the world to answer that age-old question to state. Go ahead. Give him your honest answer. I think Palestinians should have all the powers to govern themselves, but none of the powers to threaten us.

That means that certain powers, like overall security, will always remain in our hands. Now, that is a fact. And no one in Israel will agree to anything else because we don't commit suicide. We want life. We cherish life for ourselves, for our neighbors. And I think we can work out a peace between us

and the entire Middle East with President Trump's leadership. And by working together together I think we can establish a very very broad piece. Adam, thoughts? So the whole question in Middle East is who do you trust the most? So this might upset some of you guys. I would argue that I whether it's Trump or any American president you trust Israel more than any other name on that list in the Middle East. Who do you trust them? What do you trust more than Israel in the Middle East? It's not zero or 100 So maybe you trust Saudi, you know 30 percent you trust iran 1 percent you trust qatar 20 percent whatever the number is

Here's what I guarantee you the trust of israel is over 50 percent Is there any other country in the middle east you would even put above 50 percent? What other country in the middle East would you even would you proclaim is our ally oh wait while you try to throw out names I don't think it exists you trust them to the point where you get what you pay for Qatar all right we have a base there Saudi we have a relationship there we're selling them arms I don't know who did 9-11 Iran we just had a war with them. So with Israel, it's not zero or a hundred percent trust I know there's a lot of people they're like we hate Israel. There's aren't there are enemies will never work with them

Well, that's not what the government's doing. There's other people like Israel and United States are completely allied and there's zero daylight between them Well, I don't think that's the case either. They are what is known as strategic allies. Now you talked about whether Trump should get the Nobel Peace Prize. There's two parts to that. There's something called peace through strength. I think if you look at what Israel has done in conjunction with the United States, they basically looked at, I would call it war mongering psychopaths, jihadists, and said, we're gonna have to take care of these people before they take care of us. So they went after Hamas, the Houthis, still dealing with that, Hezbollah, Syria, Islamic jihad, tip of the spear with Iran, and I think that Trump will be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize when the dust settles in the Middle East. So we'll see what happens with that. Tom? Well, I think there's a bit of...

It's actually a good question. Who do you trust more in the Middle East? Out of all the countries in the Middle East, who do you trust the most? Well, there's a couple ways to look at trust. It's not necessarily, you know... Could you put any country above Israel? Or no, no, I don't.

What I'm saying is trusting outcomes. You know, I, when you look at sports, I trust certain players to do certain things, whether I like those teams or I'm not a fan of those teams or I'm not a fan of the player. I trust that they're going to behave a certain way and Israel, I can trust them to do what I think they're gonna do. I don't always agree with everything, but I can trust them to do what they're gonna do. Because everybody else, there is a complicated l'Brent under there that they have a foundational desire to dispose of Israel.

So do I trust them to be them? Yeah, and that makes me not trust them long term. And so I trust Israel to be Israel, and I trust Israel to do things in a certain way and to behave a certain way. And I don't think there's anybody else in the Middle East that I trust more than that. Vinny, who do you trust more than Israel?

I mean, I, you know what I mean, I don't trust anybody over there, but if I had to pick militarily and strategic and fighting and war and stuff like that, you gotta be Israel. We're not teaming up with anybody else to fight anybody, but morally and some of the things that they're probably doing,

if Epstein going back to Mossad and all the stuff and AIPAC and our congressmen and stuff like that it's like I don't know I mean I wouldn't put like Jordan UAE Saudi Arabia what do you think? I'm asking you who in the Middle East you in the military? I don't I don't trust anybody but who would I trust the most? No no no in the Middle East can you pull up the Middle East map it's a good question pull up the Middle East map? It's a good question Pull up the Middle East map who in the Middle East do you trust more than Israel? Rob nobody can see Map ever who do you trust more in the Middle? Just hit maps

Like instead of images like images maps. That's what I did and it gave me the other one. So hit images. You're so funny. You are so funny. There you go. Here we go. Vinny. Who do you trust?

Vinny, I don't know if you can locate Israel there. The tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny little area right here. Is Jordan bad? Jordan has a peace treaty with Israel. The fact that you don't even know anything about Jordan already gives you the answer. Michael. Michael Jordan's okay. The guy dunking on't even know anything about Jordan already gives you the answer. Michael. Michael Jordan?

The guy dunking on people in the Middle East. He won championships. But think about it. Think about it for a second. American neutralized Jordan. Which of these guys would be the biggest allies of? Obviously Israel because of the military alliance that they have with us.

The answer is none. You don't trust any of these mother efforts. Adam, I told you from the beginning, I don't trust anybody. I don't trust anybody. Trump doesn effers. Adam, I told you from the beginning, I don't trust anybody. I don't trust anybody. Trump doesn't trust his own cabinet. Exactly. That's how it works though.

It's not a hundred or zero. No, that's not how it works. It's on a scale. By the way, you could say you don't trust Israel. Just say it. But what you can't say is when you're in a room of 19, let's just say, criminals, okay? You still have to have one person you trust above the 19 criminals. You have to have somebody that you're gonna go and say, I'm gonna trust that guy more. This

isn't a, you know, because again, this is part of the problem of what's going on with the Middle East, because the interview takes place. You know, the interview with Tucker Carlson and the president of Iran, right? Ilan Tucker announces that he's gonna be doing the interview which a lot of people ask me the question What do you think about the fact that he's doing the interview? I love it I love the fact that he's doing the interview the more I get a chance to hear what the president of any country has to say Say, but you don't understand. Do you realize he's giving eyeballs to this? I mean, I got a lot of shit when I interviewed the founder of a Islamic Revolutionary Guard and they're like I cannot believe you're doing this No, I learned a lot

About what that guy did so I applaud Tucker for doing the interview now having said that In the intro Rob is this the intro is this I can grab the intro hang on which clip is that Rob the one that you're Where they talk about death to America being chanted Okay, so here's a question that it was asked about death to America You as a audience folks run a poll the poll is once once this is done Do you believe the president Iran's explanation of what death to America really means? It doesn't really mean what you think it means, right? It doesn't it has a complete different it means, right? It doesn't.

It has a complete different meaning when they say death to America. It's more poetic, it's more loving, it's endearing. It's coming from a place of gamesmanship. We're just kind of flirting with each other. You know how you talk dirty and you say, babe, I'm gonna do this to you tonight. You're not really gonna go destroy her you're just gonna have some fun

So the way Iranians talk dirty to Americans like listen man death upon America mother You know, yeah, that's the way they do it Saying it's coming from a very nice dirty You know way of speaking Rob. Do you want to just go to the question and let them light it up? Is this the whole thing? Yep, go for it. I Can't rock dirty so you're not afraid but Americans are free go back a little bit I hear myself Yeah, okay got if you can close the pole they're gonna go back to it so I'd watch this one here It's a term of endearment. Yeah, it's a term of endearment.

Watch this, folks. Many Americans are afraid of Iran. You say you're not afraid, but Americans are afraid of Iran. And they believe that Iran would like to strike the United States with a nuclear weapon. They see video of Iranians saying, death to America, describing our country as the great Satan. What is your opinion of that? Should we be afraid of Iran?

I believe that this is a very wrong impression that anybody might have of Iran or the Iranians. I would like to remind you that Iran has never invaded another country in the last 200 years. When they say death to the United States, it doesn't mean death to, they don't mean death to the people of the United States or even to the officials of the United States. They mean death to crimes, death to killing and carnage, death to supporting, killing others, death to insecurity and instability. This is, have you ever heard that an Iranian

killing an American, have you ever heard that? Or a terrorist that an Iranian killing an American? Have you ever heard that? Or a terrorist that was Iranian and he carried out a terrorist attack against the Americans? No, it was your president who confessed that the Americans created ISIS in our region. And they were responsible for this wrong image that is portrayed of religion or the Muslims in the world.

And once again, I would like to tell you and remind you that this is not death to the American people or to the officials. Death to crimes and atrocities, to bullying bully to the use of force. And I'm coming to first. Well, we've never invaded another country. I bet that's, I bet that little report surprised the hell out of the Iraqis. It's been 10 years going back and forth. And I think there was five, I'm going to get this wrong, but there was this huge number of people. I thought it was 5 million on each side that died in the 10-year Iran-Iraq war where Iran never set foot in Iraq

Didn't do anything wasn't invading. They were going back and forth with each other this I Find it stunning You know, I find it absolutely stunning. They're only a million people half a million on each side. Yeah half a million But still but but go for it. That's a lot less, I thought. Boy, 10 year war? Boy, yeah, a little ineptitude there. So I think when I listen to this full list,

what goes in my head is like, who are you kidding, the Iran-Iraq war? Who are you kidding? You sponsored terrorism. Who are you kidding this? I have no idea what his audience is and who he thinks is really believing it, unless it's just... The question is, does the audience of Americans believe it? What percentage of Americans just watch that and say, wow, he's right? That's not what that means. Like, how many people

did that right there, what he just said, work on? How many Americans did that that work on I'll give you an answer there 42% look at that right there Democrats our audience do you believe the Iranian president explanation with you running 20% believe him okay so take 20% and that's our audience okay let's take right which means it's 30 to 40 that believe this. Yeah, and a big chunk, I think a big chunk of the Democrats believe it. I think probably 33% of Democrats believe that. Because they want to believe that.

See, we can be globalists and all get along. It's okay, they're not really doing this. This is subversive stuff, because that is what 30% of the hard globalist Democrats want to believe Wow, Vinnie What about oh you think I believe him I don't believe him at all, but I was on a deeper thing I was seeing a lot of stuff on on Tucker and how you know, everybody was pissed off in him, but He started interviewing like thinking about he's interviewed Putin who else is? But he started interviewing like think about he's interviewed Putin who else is

Putin this guy or bond and it's almost as if I heard reports and it was it was like People like him and they named one other person I'm trying to figure out who it was that they think that they're getting money from you know Everybody always says well Israel's paying them and Israel's in their pocket I've heard allegedly that these guys are starting to get money from the other side, from the Middle East. Like, if you think, like, Theo Vaughn was one of them too. I saw reports where it was like, Theo Vaughn, who, guys, we all know, he's a comedian. He's hilarious in all the interviews. Once he went to Qatar, he was there when the president was there. He got back and the moment he got back all of a sudden it was You know what's happening in Gaza is is a genocide and I'm saying he's good women I want you to elaborate down a little bit more because there was an ad network and there were things out there that it turns

Out people were getting ad dollars, and it was a big embarrassment to a lot of the podcast not this one No, we didn't take it know where they you know I'm talking about that they all got surprised by the ad network came from some bad people yeah are you talking about that no and if not what are you talking about now I saw I saw a bunch of stuff on the internet on X a bunch of posts where the timing of people's attitudes changing about the Middle East like for instance when well like Theo when Theo von went to Qatar and went on stage and was making people laugh and everything. And mind you, I personally, I know Theo von and I never heard anything about Middle East

diplomacy, anything, the war, anything. Once he got back from that trip, and then it was, you know, he started being way more vocal against Israel. So I'm just saying that's the type of stuff that I was hearing. And so when it comes to like Tucker as well, I saw other people pointing out to the fact that he's starting to interview, not starting, but he's interviewing all these people and giving them a voice to try to prove their selves and make them look like they're not. Because by the way, saying death to America, I don't give a damn who you are or how you spin it. Saying death to America is saying death to the country, death to all the people and that you wish that that place doesn't exist. That's what

death to something means, meaning no life, no breath, nothing. It's death. So I don't believe that. Well, Vinny, welcome to reality, because Qatar has been paying everybody. I'm not saying that they're paying Tucker, but here, Rob, I'm gonna send you a little thing of... I'm saying, again, Adam, I don't know. I'm just saying I've been hearing a lot of it, and I'm a timing type of guy.

When it happens like that, when all of a sudden you switch, it kind of makes me question. Sure, well, I think people have been yelling from the rooftops, watch out for the Qatari money for quite some time because a lot of people basically say, who's a bigger foe in the Middle East? Is it Iran, who's basically broke and has spent all their money on nuclear weapons or

proxies and we see the ROI that that's having, or is it Qatar who's basically printing money with liquid gold and has been funding universities, NGOs, anti-American, anti-Israel, that's where Al-Jazeera is based? None of this is new to anybody that's been following Qatar. Now as far as Tucker goes, here's how this works. Is Tucker being funded by Qatar? Well No one in their right mind would be like yo, here's your money, buddy No, you you use a intermediary or a third party to act as the sort of

Bagman to collect the money because in America there's something called the Farah FARA the foreign agent Find that what the Farah is, foreign agent registry, registry and associate, whatever it is. One of Charlie's Angels I thought. There you go. Foreign Agents Registration Act. There you go. So if you take money from a foreign entity you have to register as that, but if you allegedly have a third party in between, there's a way of doing this. This is what Qatar is doing. I'm not breaking anybody news. Anybody who's been following Qatar knows that they're basically, they've already done it in Europe. If you look at Europe, why is Europe such a dysfunction?

Everyone I talk to, whether it's Germany, whether it's the UK or Paris, they say the following, Oh dude, Europe has fallen. Qatar has bought every official, every diplomat, every single person in Europe. And if you look what's going on in Europe, that's what they're trying to do with America. And who's easiest people to do in America? The left, the progressives.

You ever see that interview with the one guy? I think he was interviewed by, it starts with a D, he's been on our show. The Indian guy is very conservative. He goes, Dinesh respect to you. He goes, why do hardcore Muslim extremists vote or give their money to the progressive leftists? He goes, oh, it's so easy to understand. They have no values. They have no principles. They'll take the money. They'll say whatever. A man's a woman, a woman's a man. You know, go, go, go, go, go. Have abortions, energy. You can find that clip. He goes, I don't give money. There's no Muslim conservatives in Congress, by the way. Zero. They're all on the left because they have no values. They have no principles.

That's basically what he's saying. So to get back to this concept of Tucker, here's what I know for sure. If you want an easy softball interview and you're a thug like Putin, if you're a terrorist state like Iran, if you're funding terrorism around the world, go to He's just going to sit there and do this stupid looking face. And then when you say something, and that's Tucker. I would 100% go on Tucker if I was a foreign autocrat and I wanted a zero pushback on that. Now as far as believing the president of Iran, death to America. No, we don't want death to America. We want to give you a big hug and kill you with love. Does anybody believe that? Well, apparently 20% of our audience believes that. Where's that poll at right now, Rob? I'm curious.

Keep going, Adam. I just want to know that. Yeah, I mean, the one last thing I'll say is this. You want to have respect from me, Tucker? Go interview the people in Iran. Go interview the people that have been suffering from the Iranian regime for the last 46 years. Go interview those people and see what they have to say because I guarantee you're gonna get a completely different response. Those people want to see the Iranian regime go and go immediately but you're gonna sit there with the president of Iran and I'm gonna take him at face value and then just smile here's That's that I here's where I'm gonna be at. Okay

to me Tom, I think Iraq attacked Iran the moment Shaw fell and they saw weakness and That's where the opportunity came in with Saddam I don't think how many had a bone of military background in him to know how to have any kind of attacks being done. So they were exposed because he killed off a couple thousand of Shah's generals and colonels and leaders. So their military was dismantled and Iraq saw that as an opportunity.

But again, that's a war that happened. It cost a lot of innocent people's lives. But for them to say nothing, the amount of fatwas Khomeini put, didn't Khomeini put a fatwa on Salman Rushdie, they put so many fatwas, even Ru'aloh Khomeini recently said Death Upon America, they talk about John Bolton, they talk about all these other guys, stop with this nonsense bullshit that you're all innocent and it's not Death Upon America. When I was in Iran and we would learn how to write, it's so important, Iran, Iranians take writing very seriously and it would teach you how to write like…

It's like art. Honestly, it was like, I would have a hard time with it because it was like art the way you would write. It is. It's a hieroglyphic type stuff. It was so beautiful. Iran gave us Hoffus. Iran gave us Rumi. Iran gave us somefez. Iran gave us Rumi.

Iran gave us some of the most incredible poets of all time. So what is poetry? Words. What do words have? A lot of power. You mean to tell me that you can say death upon America and you don't really mean what it means? Let me get this straight for you.

You say something like that to an average guy who may take it. Do you know when we had the professor that came from Harvard that was doing a study about the police brutality? What was his name? Friar and Ronald Friar. Was there really a bias on police attacks on blacks? That's right, police attacks on blacks.

And he came up with the report a couple times and he went on Very Wise, if you remember, and then we brought him in here. Do you know what was the other research he was doing? Do you know what was the other research he was doing that he was going to be launching? The impact of hip hop, you know how they say CIA was involved with hip hop? The impact that hip hop had on kids. You know what he said? He gave a glimpse of what his research was coming along with.

He said hip hop didn't have a negative influence in the ghetto. Hip hop didn't have a negative influence in streets like, you know, Baltimore or Compton or LA because they're living hip-hop. He said hip-hop had a negative influence in the suburbs of a bunch of white kids being raised who started listening to hip-hop and the words of hip-hop got them to act, commit crimes, became criminals, act like they're gangsters. Why? Because words have power.

What is the song by Tupac that say cost his life? What does it start off with? That's why you bitch, you fat mother. And he goes into it. He calls out everybody in that thing. Hit him up, right? Hit him up. Yeah.

If you have DMX, you go to Bone Thugs and Hummer, more murder, more murder, come, come again, right. EZE, real mother. You go listen to all the lyrics here, these lyrics, and when you listen to these words, they do something to you. If you're telling me Mad Bad America doesn't have any meaning, then stop saying it. Why don't you stop saying it? Why don't you stop saying those words?

Why don't other countries say it? Because a 12-year-old kid is going to hear it and they're going to be like, I'm so loyal to Chaminade, I'm so loyal to you that I'm actually going to act upon these words of death upon America. I'm actually going to be willing to go commit suicide because I may have a place in heaven if I'm able to commit suicide and do it for my country, do it for my religion. What other religion goes out there and tells you to go commit suicide for your religion? Have we taught that, Tom? Christianity? Are we taught to go commit suicide on behalf of our God? What does our God say if we commit suicide?

Tom Felsenberg No, no, no. It says, go in all the world and teach people about me, baptize them, and teach them to obey. Dr. John Gerrold What does Christianity teach you about suicide? Tom Felsenberg Teach you about suicide? Well, the Catholics seem to believe that it's an unforgivable sin, but the Bible doesn't indicate that suicide is a fatal sin. Is there anything in there, Tom? Is there anything in the Bible that encourage you to commit suicide? No, no, no, especially nothing to kill yourself off other people. No, no, no.

Do Catholics believe in that? No. Do Jews believe in that? No. Do Scientologists believe in that? If you're talking about suicide bombers, no. Who believes in suicide bombers? Only one religion.

Why is that? Why? And by the way, none of the guys in charge think it's a good idea. By the way, none of the clerics will say, I'm going to do it first, I'll show you how. They want everybody else to. Well, the, the, the, the, the challenge, the challenge here becomes you can fool a percentage of people that hear that. Like my follow-up would have been Tucker would have had an opportunity to have so many additional follow-ups there to that one specific topic, similar to the way he pushed Ted Cruz. Cause to me, that Ted Cruz interview was phenomenal.

That Ted Cruz interview was incredible for both sides. It was great for both sides. I thought that was one of the best interviews he's ever done. You know that interview ended up getting the podcast to go all the way to the top. I think he was number one for like a week or so. It was that good of an interview on Spotify. He crushed it with that interview. That's the pushback that we sometimes need with these guys to ask the follow up. Really? That's what you say? What about that, that, that, that, that? He knows how to do it. He did

it with Ted. He knows how to do it. He knows how to re-engage. He knows how to bring some of that stuff up. So to me the only argument I would make on behalf of Tucker why he wasn't able to push it was because maybe the other side said, we will only do the interview if you don't push and you only have 28 minutes. And Tucker had a list of seven questions to ask in those 28 minutes and he knew he couldn't stay on that one topic. And he even said at the beginning of the interview, there's some questions I'm not going to be asking because we all know we're not going to be getting the answers

Well that applies to anybody though, doesn't it? Yeah, I mean you can ask Ted some questions about apac. Are you really going to get all the answers on this this whole thing about you know, uh, uh, uh katar is doing what they're doing with the money so is uh, Israel with apac so we can't say that's also not happening. This isn't a part of that. The only difference for me here, not going to sit here, by the way, just so everybody knows, I don't make friends when I take these positions because I don't fully gain my Israel audience and I don't fully gain my, what do you call it, the lady yesterday because the,

what do you call it, the VT News contest winners were over here and they had a chance to come through here and Heather and the crew yeah Heather and the crew and I had cigars with them last night at the cigar lounge it was Heather Airby who's I'm definitely she's listening on the way to the airport she is Loris Spatoffra I think he came all the way from Montreal if I'm not mistaken and we had Zach Joffff, okay, who were here. Very nice gift. Zach, that gift that you gave me is in my car just so you know, Vinny, I says as well. The scripture, it's in my car and I read through it.

But we're sitting there last night, you know what she says? She says, I follow the comments section so closely and it's so interesting. One minute, you know, the Muslims are so happy that you're calling out Israel and one minute the Jews hate you and the next minute the Jews are so supportive of what you're saying about Muslims and the next minute Muslims hate you. It's like nobody really knows. I'm like, look, what do you want us to do? We're not making friends here with the positions I'm making.

We kind of tell you where it is. But the reality of it is you want me to sit here and believe that death upon America is not what it means? Get the hell out of here trying to talk to people as if they're dumb. Then change your language. Language is a form of art in your country, Iran. You know how powerful language is. Change it. By the way, what says Khomeini and the President cannot stand up today?

What says today Khomeini and the President of Iran cannot stand up in front of their people and say, moving forward we can no longer use the words, death upon America and death upon Israel. Can you say that? Can you say that? Can you get up and tweet that? Can Khomeini on his Twitter account that is still active till today, can he get up there and say, moving forward, we are a religion of peace. And as a religion of peace, leading the rest of the world, we will no longer be using the phrase death upon America and Death upon Israel even though the amount of damage that they've done to our great country of Iran

Let's just say you say that even with that last sentence I would retweet that if they put that up there, but they won't do it Because it's part of their profile Because it's what they believe in deep down inside. That rage, that anger is in them. And they keep duplicating that with others. So yes, to the people that are upset that Tucker did the interview, I am so glad he did the interview. Phenomenal job with the interview.

Because you either are being sold into a bunch of BS propaganda that death upon America really means it's a shot at crime You really are that naive if you're really that naive Wait to see what's in store for you in the future if you're that naive wait till you see what's in store for you in the future wait Naive people are gonna get I do I can't use this word, but it's gonna get very Bad for naive people in many different ways.

You're going to fall for it, you're going to fall for it, and you're going to fall for it, and then eventually you're going to be like, oh my God, I thought it was just but that person on social media was saying this, but I thought they were all good. No, naive people get destroyed. Wake up, folks. Wake up. Only the paranoid survive. Wake up. That's what's going to be happening. These guys are just trying to sell you a bunch of propaganda and unfortunately some people are buying it. I want to ask you this. Speaking of Khomeini,

you know he came out and just made his first appearance since the whole war. Makes first public appearance since Iran-Israel started. He came out and of course he comes out and he says, Tehran had delivered a slap to America's face by striking the US base in Qatar, warning against further US or Israel attacks and aggression. After we just destroyed their nuclear program, took out all their sites, zero missile defense at this point, but they're the ones that took out our our base in Qatar and then you see what Trump response was he goes Look, man You're a man of great faith a man who's highly respected in his country

But you have to tell the truth, buddy You got beat to hell. This is what Trump said to Khomeini So here's my question to you. They just what Trump said to Khomeini. So here's my question to you. They just lie and lie and lie. If you're Tucker or if you're Tucker's producer and you push back against Ted Cruz, we saw what you can do, but then you give zero, zero pushback against the president of Iran who's lying to your face.

Why does Tucker not push back in your eyes? And if they say, listen, you have a half hour, please don't push back. That's the reason. I honestly think that's the reason. So then you're bought. You're paid for. So which one is it? I'm not going there.

I'm not going there, bro. I just think he had 28 minutes. Sometimes when he got a 28 minute interview, your job as a because remember, in the court, he's a journalist. So it's like what? Here's the questions, go audience react and make up your mind, right? The podcast, this was not a podcast. What he did here was a Fox News interview.

That's what that was. But the Ted Cruz podcast. By the way, the Putin was a podcast. The Putin is not a, the Fox thing, because he had two hours with the guy. Putin gave you two hours. He could have pushed with Putin. I don't criticize him on this one. On this one I just think the only a little bit was death upon America. We've always been a religion of peace and all this other stuff.

Yeah, he had 28. It's very hard to do it. I look at it a little bit differently. If he went to Russia to interview Putin, we saw how he just like made how the train stations are so amazing. I would argue when you're in the presence in the Kremlin, maybe you don't want to do a little pushback. All right, you know, fear for your life. We just talked about some guy who just suicided himself. Yeah, yeah. You're doing a freaking zoom interview with the president of Iran and who lies to your face about death to America and you're

like, all right, next question. You don't want to push back 30 seconds, Tucker. You don't want to take 30 seconds for 28 minutes to maybe give a little pushback to me that you talk about how Dan Bongino or cash Patel or Pam Bondi are losing credibility. This is why you lose credibility. You're not going to push back for 30 seconds, bro. I see your point there. It's a week, but I just see it a little differently. If I got This is why you lose credibility. You're not gonna push back for 30 seconds, bro. Nothing? It's a week. I see your point there, but I do see it a little differently. If I got 28 minutes, I'm gonna get as many answers

out of him as I can, and if he gives me that depth of America, I think in my head, I'm gonna put a narration on the front of that, and I'm gonna call this guy out on the short clip, and I'm gonna publish the clip. I'm gonna say, and then I asked him this, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba, and then he did this. I'm going to say, and then I asked him this about, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. And then he did this. I can clip that later because I got my answer

and I can go with it. And it would be so obvious to the jury of public opinion that sits out there. But in 28 minutes, I want to get as many answers out of him as possible, which gives me as many places to go as possible in my opinion. So you're saying that you'd basically justify not pushing back after the

fact but not during the interview. No, during the interview, it's like, and that was a long question. Which part of that are you going to push back on? You're going to go, wait a minute, wait a minute. Just the whole thing. Did you just say all that? Exactly. That's a long question from the guy.

I mean, all he had to do was with his goofy chuckle and just like laugh at the guy's face. Go ahead, Vinny. Well, my thing is, and I think, Pam think Pamine you talked about it a couple days ago when it actually happened saying I'm not even going to ask him this because we know what the answer is going to be. I don't like that. Ask it so I could see the guy's body language. I want to see his face. I want to see, even if he goes whatever BS, BS, BS, I want to look because we're not dumb. We can tell the body language question don't be don't be soft in that sense And that's where people start asking questions about you know and don't be wrong. I love I absolutely love Tucker

I think he's one of the most important voices to do especially this type of stuff But I do agree you get a pushback especially that to America, and you're one of the most American pro-american patriots out there I'd be like whoa whoa seriously, bro Seriously, just something. One pushback. One pushback. But I get it. Just one little pushback. And you nailed it. Four seconds.

He's doing Zoom with an interpreter. It's less than 28 minutes. I don't know. Listen, guys, I hope he does more of these. So I know this is not a popular for some of you guys. I hope he does more of these. And there's nobody that gets more criticism when you interview crazy people like this, but we need more of them. We need them talking. So in whatever context that you get a person talking, get them talking. Let them talk. And with that, this to me is a success because I get to see, because at the end of the day

with Iran, with everything that they're going through, this was the closest Iran got to a regime change. Closest gone Iran got to a regime change of 46 years and that's gone bone period It's gone to the next one and who knows when the next one's gonna be coming around Again, that doesn't mean that there's not a surprise and an ace up Trump's sleeve that something could happen in the next few weeks or a Few months because Trump's one thing Trump's made very clear I freaking love it I know most people don't like this he's made himself very unpredictable it is such a great quality when it comes down to a president that's going against his enemies and you need to stay a little bit unpredictable and he's doing that okay all right so let's go to the next story here on what we got with what he

called it New York Mayor Mamdani. I'm gonna go to the New York mayor's situation and I want to come back to the financial stuff. So this guy this is getting very interesting here to the point where Ackman, Bill Ackman, 10 billion dollar guy backs Adams, Mayor Adams to stop socialist Mamdani and calls on Cuomo to drop out. Here's his tweet. In summary, in a light of inability to add a new name to the ballot and a low probability of success of a write-off in campaign, the only candidate with a credible chance to beat Mamdani

are Cuomo and Adams. I met with Adams and Cuomo to discuss the upcoming election and I spent an hour or so with each of them. In short, my takeaway is that Adams can win the upcoming election and that the governor should step aside to maximize Adams' probability of success. I say this while having a high regard for Andrew Cuomo and his contribution to New York State, but it was abundantly clear in his body language, his subdued energy, and his proposals to beat Mamdani that he is not up for the fight.

Bill Ackman is becoming a heavy, heavy, he has always been, but he's becoming at the highest level right now, a power player on what types of things they're doing when it comes to stuff like this. And while this is going on, NYPD retirement reportedly hits historic high and Union says Mamdani could make it even worse. So cops are sitting there saying, what the hell am I being a cop in New York City for, especially when a guy like this is about to come right behind us and become the mayor. The New York Police Department is experiencing a high historic retirement with 1,555 officers

filing for retirement. Ready? This week, folks. This week. That's a 48% increase from last year and a 65% increase from a decade ago, which was 941. According to data provided to the New York Post by the PBA, union leaders reported to the Post that this level of retirement in the first half of the year is unprecedented

in New York history. Democratic socialist Mamdani's mayoral candidacy is seen as exasperating the NYPD's staff crisis with the past statements on ex-calling the NYPD wicked and corrupt and advocating to defund and dismantle it and the cycle of violence, PBA President Patrick Hendry stated that the city cannot afford a leader who ignores the staffing crisis or pushes the NYPD backward. Tom, thoughts? So what's really interesting going on right now is what's behind the scenes. Everybody that is on the capitalist side

and the stability side are freaking out. And industries are getting behind them. Check this out, what just happened over the weekend. Over 4th of July, Eric Adams was going party to party to party up and down the Hamptons in Long Island. And, but he wasn't there having a beer and clinking glasses. He was there because they're concerned. And you've got the real estate investors who are concerned about what is a real estate

investor concerned about, Vinny? Enough people to rent your building or businesses to rent your building if it's commercial. And if the economy gets screwed up, there's no one to rent your building. And's commercial and if the economy gets screwed up there's no one to rent your building and so they don't want that and During his tenure Eric Adams made friends with developers and he had this thing called the city of yes program So you know what he was doing? Trying to make permitting and building easier and quicker who is not doing that, California, right? But he was out there trying to be the city of yes. So the city of yes initiative and they greenlit apparently 80,000

new homes in New York. Now that's going to be different type of buildings and things like that because they don't have any property. It's how you rebuild on what's already there. There's Castamatitis, Fishel, Mark Holiday holiday all these folks are out there saying two things Andrew Please don't run a disruptive third party and you know Cuomo told them apparently he said I'm not making up my mind till September I may make up my mind on doing it or not doing it September So what he's saying is the 60 day run from September to election day, that's when Andrew Cuomo supposedly,

that's what these people are saying, and we know his brother, we can probably get confirmation or not, but are saying he's gonna wait until then to do it. And they're asking him, Andrew, please assure us you're not gonna do that. Let's all line up behind Eric and let's run this thing. And there were more than just real estate, but there was all kinds of people in the Hamptons. And again,

I weren't there celebrating fireworks. They're all taking this very, very serious. And these were supposedly ultra serious meetings among the levity of 4th of July, but deadly serious because they're concerned about the economic future of their city and don't want it led by a socialist and they were all saying, Eric, we got money behind you, we may not agree on everything from before, but we're with you and the developers were recultivating and saying, we think you got it right with City of Yes and we're with you. How much, Tommy, how much do you think Andrew Cuomo has a chip on his shoulder for how the Democrats treated him with all the scandal and they basically got his ass out how much of this is revenge and payback

to say F all of you because you guys treated me like this I'm gonna be the disruptor of this and he doesn't care if the city burns. Well I can't read his mind and tell you how much but how can there be zero? There cannot be a zero chip on Andrew Cuomo's shoulder. One phone call fix is there. One phone call fixes that. One phone call fixes that. From DJT? One phone call fixes that.

One phone call. If Trump calls him and says, yo bro, we're not trying to have a freaking communist, a jihad sympathizer. Because remember, Trump had a relationship with Mario Cuomo. Trump wrote Mario Cuomo a letter and if you get that book of all of Trump's letters that he got, I think the second page of the book is a letter from Mario Cuomo and that's Andrew Cuomo's father I don't know if you can you can you find a yeah that one right there Can you find the letter from Mario Cuomo to Trump? That's Cuomo to that's Trump to Cuomo

No, there's there's one letter that's from Mario Cuomo to Trump It's it's on the second or the third page. Who wrote it to who? I know it's in that book right there with all the letters. But I think someone needs to find a way to save Andrew Como's face. I think there's only one person I can do it. Because the reality of it is, they really went after him. He had a massive screw up.

No one's going to sit here and not dispute the fact that he did a Massive screw-up he had it and it was tough and he had to address it and he's gonna have to address it for a long time To come every time you interview Monica Lewinsky guess what's gonna always come up bill Clinton and a cigar and every time you know It's bill Clinton guess what's gonna come up same thing. Yeah, so guess what? It's part of your story You're gonna you're gonna have it that's gonna come up same thing? Yeah, so guess what? It's part of your story You're gonna you're gonna have it that's gonna come up no matter what so but to me is as you're going into New York I have some thoughts, but I'm gonna get your thoughts before I get into mine. What are you thinking about? I'm Donnie what's gonna happen with Adams with the New York situation with the cops. What do you think about it?

Yeah, I mean just welcome to the world in 2025 where in the heart of New York in the heart of capitalism the heart of the United States you're about to tell me that a communist, jihadist, it could potentially be the mayor of New York City. Yeah, it's 2025. So it's sort of writing on the wall. So a couple things that are going on in New York. Number one, we're about to find out how selfish and or delusional Andrew Cuomo is. Because the Democratic Party in New York told him to his face how they feel about him. They'd rather have Mondani. This is not about him being delusional, Adam. Well clearly he's delusional if he hasn't dropped out of the race yet.

No, no, he's offended. Well then he has to remove his emotions from... That's not how it works though. He's offended and he feels like he's given the city his entire life. I understand that he's offended and he has a right to be defended. Sure. But the Democratic base, the people who voted for him and basically said, thank you. Your time has come to go away. We'd rather have this person and this is not a a glitch.

You're not wrong in the Democratic Party. This is what the modern Democratic Party in New York, the progressives, want. This wasn't an accident that they wanted Mondani. This was like, oh my god, they wanted him. The Democratic left, progressives, say, no, no, this is what we stand for now. Mondani. We stand. The state became more Republican, but the left became more left. The city I'm talking about. I'm what the state he's not this isn't the Governor's race. I get it. Yeah, this is the city of New York. Yes This wasn't an accident

They said no, no, no yet the socialist guy sure the jihadist got yet. That's our guy Because that is who the Democratic Party is at this point, right? And if you don't believe me look at the numbers They talked about a poll, Harry Enton I think did a thing about how in the last 10 years the Republican Party in 2015, how do you feel about patriotism and how patriotic are you? How do you view America? It went from 90% in 2015 to 92% in 2025, 2% difference. The Democratic Party, the pride in being an American has plummeted, is this the stat right here?

Democrats are no longer proud to be American. Democrats are no longer proud of what American values are. Patriotism is not going the right way in the Democratic Party. And New York is the tip of the spear where they're like, dude, F America, we want someone to come in here and blow it all up. Give us Mom Donnie. So the last but not least, follow the money. Here's a couple of articles. You talked about how Bill Ackman is basically potentially funding Eric Adams. Big real estate

people are going to be funding this. There's a flip side to the coin, which I text you, Rob. You ever see these like billionaires that are also socialists, like the Mark Benny officer of the world? It's a weird concept. So now they're calling it the Mondani millionaires. The millionaires are supporting the socialist for New York City mayor. I don't know. I don't understand it, but right now we're sort of in the summer malaise of like, ah, let's have some fun. It's summer. Come the fall, all eyes are gonna be on New York City because the election is in November, yeah? It's just heating up. Yeah, this is not gonna go. And by the way,

this former AOC backer, Rob, I don't know if you have this clip or not Has stark warning for young mem Donnie fans watch this you go for it So New York City just nominated this guy's Oh Ron mom Donnie who is a socialist to represent them for the mayor's election and I if I was 25 I would be obsessed with so wrong when I was 25. I was actually 26 27 I helped get AOC elected. I made a video for her campaign that went super viral. I met her a ton of times and I was a huge AOC person. Now I'm 35 and like every stereotypical person I've grown up and I've learned that these feel-good politics of promising free food, free college, free apartments, like you get free,

you get free, you get free. It feels so good. You feel as a young person when your frontal lobe is not fully developed and you're thinking more in black and white that this is going to be good, right? You're indoctrinated as a young person in America to believe that capitalism is bad and all your problems are because of these evil business owners. But I have to warn young people who are caught up in the mom-Donnie vibe is that the road to hell is paid with good intentions And we've seen time and time again in countries and cities that adopt these socialist programs Is that the rich people who are gonna pay for them are gonna leave because of a high? Taxes and then we just get more taxes and less for it

And one example of this on a smaller scale is in New York in 2019 for it. And one example of this on a smaller scale is in New York in 2019, there was a law that was passed by the state house, all Democrats, to pause rent stabilization on, sorry, to pause rent hikes on rent stabilized apartments. So they could no longer rent hike. So say, for example, an apartment is rent stabilized, it's had the same tenant since the 1970s, it comes up for rent. Landlords, because of this law, can only raise the rent by 2%. So say in 1970s someone was paying $200 a month, you're not going to be paying $220 a month in 2025. But the problem is that rent stabilized apartment needs to be renovated and brought up 2025 code. So because of this law, what's happened is now there are tens of thousands of empty apartments in New York that are rent stabilized that the landlords are not

Renovating because they know they cannot make their money back if they renovate them And again these landlords are not like evil people and when you're indoctrinated into this sort of leftist oppressor oppressed Mindset you think like business owners are evil. They're not many of them are small businesses, you know They're living they're working on a margin and so it's not affordable for them to put hundreds of thousands. What's her name? I just want to give a shout out to her name. She's awesome. Can you go back all the way to the front to see what her name is? So I think her account uh it's Lucy Biggers. Lucy Biggers. Lucy good for you. I don't know what you do for a living I don't know where you are but good for you. You ought to keep creating more content and uh maybe even starting your podcast if you don't already have one. By the way, do you know what happens to rich people? They migrate to other places.

This is millionaire migration in 2025. Look at the country all the way to the bottom. Who is losing the most millionaires right now? UK. Holy cow. Can you tell me why? What has entered UK causing millionaires to leave UK. What do you think? I wonder weird what it is, right? Of course. It's got nothing to do with the migration migration from Pakistan and other places

What's the number two country at the bottom? Rob? China is losing people india's losing south korea russia brazil france spain germany israel Look at brick brick the liberal darlings of the new emergence. All the BRIC people are leaving BRIC. Yeah, South Africa, Indonesia, Nigeria, Iran, Lebanon. Now go all the way to the top Rob. Go all the way to the top and it's not US. Look who's number one. UAE, if you can zoom in a little bit Rob, there you go. UAE number one ahead of US then it's Italy Switzerland Saudi Arabia Singapore Portugal Greece Canada Australia Hong Kong Japan Malta and you got the rest of the countries there right guess what if you don't take care of your job creators

there is another state city or a country that would be more than happy to take them so if UK policies don't protect the job creators and those who work their asses off with their investment that reinvested into the economy in UK They're gonna go to a different country by the way, you know what the Santas offered for cops that want to come to Florida do you remember the bonus that he was offering who remembers that well five thousand dollars remember was a five thousand if you can find That the five thousand dollar bonus yet for cops Is that it launch in 2022 the first of its kind underscores Florida's nation's leading commitment to supporting law enforcement. The program provided a one-time $5,000 bonus after taxes to newly employed officers to

show appreciation and incentive for choosing to serve Florida. A lot of those guys that are residing from New York may be moving to Florida to be a cop here. And guess what? We like cops in Florida. If Mamdani wants to kind of do this, the point is the city's gonna get on safer. So I would not be surprised if the most random people get involved to help Adams get this done. But do not be surprised by the crazies to also show up to make sure Adams doesn't get it done in a state of New York in the city of New York and my thoughts on Andrew Cuomo. Andrew Cuomo was offended and he has either got to be welcome to a different party because he's not welcome to the Democratic Party he's either got to be you know making a decision to go

independent Republican he's got to make a move he is not going to be able to get nothing done with the party he's a part of because they're not fans of yours, period. He's either got to apologize and just add a royal screw up with XYZ and find a way to go on a podcast and talk to a bunch of different people to kind of get it off because you have to go through it. You kind of have to go through it. He hasn't done that yet.

And if you keep playing this card of not willing to do that, guess what? The market is going to say, look, all we want to hear from you is you effed up and we'll move on. That's all we want to. He said it a couple of times, but I think he can do a better job with that. I think the only thing he needs, he needs to be welcome somewhere. I think he's been offended. Then one phone call could address that issue. No problem. Okay. So let's talk. Do you think he should drop out though? Yeah, I think he should drop out. There's no question about it. He should drop out. That's not even a question. Okay. Weather agencies under fire after failing

to warm up Texas floods. Okay, so check this out. This is catastrophic and I don't know if you have the clips of what happens with it. I don't know what word to use, Rob. I mean, this is devastating, scary. You know, the story use Rob. I mean this is devastating scary You know the story of one father breaks his arm is bleeding to save his family and he's telling his family you guys go I'm bleeding too much. I'm not gonna be taking care of just to save them So let me let me read the stats that we have it in here or not National Weather Agency service Face criticism for the delayed floods warning in Texas where the Guadalupe River surged nearly 30 feet That's three stories

Killing at least 50 people including 15 children with the residents. That's July 6. I don't know what the exact update is today Rob I think that numbers change them page 2 at the top Texas flood death toll tops 100 as of last night 100 have passed away 28 children 27 campers and staff. You gotta be kidding me. Okay so that number is... And there's still 30 some odd missing. This will be a rough week and we need your prayers. Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick acknowledged flood warning sirens along the Guadalupe River that have saved lives but was not installed due to cost concerns. Rescue efforts face challenges with ongoing flash flood risk as a National Weather

Service warned any storm that moves across the extremely vulnerable region will rapidly cause flash flooding predicting two to three inches of rain per hour on Monday night with up to ten inches possible in some areas. Chris Boyer, Executive Director of National Association for Search and Rescue. You've got to get these folks quick, but with floods you don't typically find a lot of people alive. Rob, go ahead and play this clip here. Introducing TurboTax Business, a brand new way to file your own T2 return all while getting help from an expert who actually knows small businesses. Got a tattoo studio, toy store,

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We have very talented people that are working at these Weather Services offices. And two days before, they were outlining it. They issued the flash flood watch 12 hours in advance, the warning 3 hours in advance. Contrast that to the Estes Park flood back in 76 in Colorado that killed 144 people, same kind of channeling of water with stalling thunderstorms. The first flood warning was not issued until three or four hours after the flood was going on. So that's absolutely—they were all ready for it.

They understood their duty. And a lot of the guys that work in these weather service offices, they look at themselves the same way as people, you know, that are in the Army, that they're trying to, you know, help their country, and they did a great job with this, you know. But how do you get that warning out at 1.30 or 2 in the morning? And you've got to understand, folks, this area of Texas, from Del Rio to west of the Metroplex, is known as the flash flood alley. Okay, Kerr County, 1987, July 16th, had the same thing.

The Guadalupe River went out of control. Medina, Texas, a dying tropical storm, dumped 48 inches of rain, then the next day went up to Shackleford County and dumped 30 inches of rain. Your daughter goes to A&M, I grew up down there. My dad went there. I can remember a tropical storm,

Abby came in in 64, the darn Brazos River was a mile wide. That's how fast the water comes up in Texas. And it's any mountainous area This will happen. We had it here in Pennsylvania Johnstown flood July of 77 12 to 16 inches of rain in a six-hour period and broke all the dams around Yes, I have a Here's the Guadalupe River as it overflows

So it takes about 37 minutes this entire video. But they fast forward it. You can see the water starting to rush. Crazy, this is. So this is where it begins. And then I'm going to fast forward real quick. Go for it. And look to what it gets to.

Oh, my God. Looks like a tsunami. Keep going. And it gets even harder. Look, I mean, it starts overtaking the bridge. She knows. But does it get worse than that a little bit stuck in that you're done. Yeah, where you go you're finished They just start showing the the debris starts piling up near the bridge and it starts sending water over the bridge as well Okay, Tom your thoughts on this? So this is horrifying as a weather event.

You just have to take the warnings seriously. And unfortunately, I read a lot about people that says, you know, these warnings used to happen like every other day, every other day in this area. And sometimes you don't take them seriously. And those campers, it was at night, it was 2 a.m. to 4 a.m. where the campers were phones were going off and sometimes just tempted to go, oh yeah, another flood warning. And it's clear that in these camping areas, apparently they didn't take it seriously, wake everybody up and just go out to high ground.

And it's that simple. High ground is only a couple miles away and it's that simple and they didn't do it. And I think the alarms and the warnings with people that I've read that are upset with the weather service and saying maybe they happen too often. You're doing too good of a job and it kind of numbed everybody like the boy who calls wolf and this came between 2 a.m. and 4 a.m. As I understand it and by the time you got much later than that You were in trouble because once it started they said it 45 minutes I think it said 40 27 feet and 46 minutes was a guadalupe river at that area where the camps were and

They're right once you're in It's it's it's gory and it's terrible, but it's not like you put on a life preserver. You're moving at high speed and you are being rammed into things and you are being hit by tree debris. And so people that drowned often drowned unconscious. It's just, there's no safe way out once this wall of water with all the debris in it happens.

And so my assessment was the phones went off gang and there's a lot of people that didn't pay heed to that. But it also happened at two to four a.m. So you got to pop out of bed, get going, get those kids in the trucks and get out of there. I mean, there's some there's some very strange tweets made by some people Vinny. I don't know if you saw some of these tweets. Yeah, like this is Christina. May all visitors, children, non-MAGA voters and pets be safe and dry. Kirk County MAGA voted to gut FEMA.

They deny climate change. May they get what they voted for. Bless the hearts. May I? God, Robbie? Real quick, this is Caroline Levitt dismissing that narrative. Democrat elected officials are trying to turn this into a political game and it is not. This is a national tragedy and the administration is treating it as such.

We know the National Weather Service provided early and consistent warnings. They gave out timely flash flood alerts. There were record breaking lead times in the lead up to this catastrophe. There is ongoing flood monitoring and these offices were well staffed. In fact one of the offices was actually overstaffed. They had more people than they need. So any claim to the contrary is completely false and it's just sad that people are pushing these lies. No one's talking about and you can find it you can find on X of the

groups of people and trucks and everything no one is talking about and you can find it, you can find it on X of the groups of people and trucks and everything. No one is talking about how many people got out that are at this, this mall parking lot that said, yeah, we were rolling at 3 a.m. We heard this and we came up here and now they're telling us you can't even go back there. So we're stuck here for a couple of days and there's all those people. Where did they come from? They got the warnings and they heated the warnings and they got out.

And so no one wants to talk about all the people That got out now in the face of tragedy loss loss is first and foremost the thing to worry about But you know, what's what's what happened was this happened late at night That's what happened if there was even an inkling to what was coming and this is nine in the morning, I think I don't think the death toll is here. I think it happened so late at night and but a ton of people got out and got and got in their trucks and those are the people that are in there saying saying we don't think our cabins are we don't think our place is there we were down here visiting we don't think our vacation thing is here. I unhooked the guy that

says I unhooked the guy that says I unhooked the RV. Everybody got in the pickup. He had a fifth wheel called big trailer in the back. I unhooked it and we left. I don't think it's there. Yeah. What? Where? Yeah. Where I left because I got the warning. Yep. Exactly. And I, and okay. And in these moments, what's that Rob? Oh yeah. is CBS News reporting on a US Navy Coast Guard, his name Scott Ruskin saved 165 people in the flood. Are you mazing it? Let me see this. As the Guadalupe River surged in Texas on the 4th of July, US Coast Guard rescue swimmer Scott Ruskin who is from New Jersey and his team flying through

severe weather to get to Camp Mystic where hundreds were trapped. On the ground, Ruskin, who was on his first mission out of air station, Corpus Christi finding himself setting up triage and comforting many girls at the camp. It was pretty traumatic. I mean, yeah, you have a lot of kids, they're having probably the worst day of their life. They're missing friends, they're missing loved ones, they don't know where they are. The 26-year-old who was sworn into the U.S. Coast Guard while at Ryder University during the height of COVID then rescuing 165 flood victims with the help of the Air National Guard.

They were in need of airlift. There was no other way to get them out. Bridges were gone. Roadways were gone and the water was coming up too high for boat rescue. Thank you for your service, buddy. Scott Ruskin, bro. Are you kidding me? Gangster, and look at this. And in these moments, these moments of tragedy and our hearts and our prayers go out to all the freaking kids that have deceased, the men, everybody that's gone.

You have guys like this stepping up and doing their thing and it goes to show you, I mean, I don't know his political stance, but notice how the left and these Democrats respond in moments of tragedy. Like during the Biden administration, guys, when girls were getting raped and murdered, we criticized the Biden administration because of people like Mayorkas and all them letting them in.

When this type of natural disaster happens, this is when you see the true colors of the Democrat. And when we say they're the party of violence and they're the party of evil, they have no freaking souls. There's a, did you see what Rosie O'Donnell, the sick, miserable woman went on said? She tried to blame Trump for what happened. Well, find a way to blame him. Find a way to blame him.

Playbook page one. What a horror story in Texas. The flash floods in Texas. The Guadalupe River. 51 missing, 51 dead, more missing. Page one. What a horror story in Texas. The flash floods in Texas. The Guadalupe River. 51 missing. 51 dead, more missing. Children at a camp.

And you know, when the president guts all of the early warning systems and the weathering forecast abilities of the government, these are the results that we're gonna start to see on a daily basis because he's put this country in so much danger by his horrible horrible decisions and this ridiculously immoral Bill that he just signed into I think Yeah, yeah, she looks great just like what's her think about this. I think she looks incredible. Yeah, she looks great. Best she's ever looked.

Just like what's her name? Kathy Griffin, you should find out a picture of her. What's his name again? Kids are dying in Texas, and her first thing, this miserable human being you are, Rosie O'Donnell, you're gonna blame Trump, not the storm, okay? You moved across the freaking, you left this country, and you went to Ireland, stay there.

And nobody wants to hear your stupid-ass opinion, okay? They're not just floods Rosie their funerals Did you hear that guy little kids that have the worst moment of their freaking lives watching their friends die in front of them They're probably their mom or whoever die in front of him, and she wants to you know She says let me go in front of it. Let me go tweet a stupid video and by the way She's saying that this big beautiful bill did all this time, it's all a lie. Okay, the bill was about immigration enforcement, asylum reform, and border security.

It has nothing to do with early flood warming systems. It doesn't slash NOAA funding and it doesn't shut down weather stations. Okay, it doesn't even touch FEMA. It's not even in the same category. Okay, girls are dead and she's a freaking psycho mother This is what Kathy Griffin This is what happens when you go for Trump invade your mind and your body and your soul you turn into this person That's Kathy Griffin the one that had Trump's head chopped off and I don't even pat

I just want to show you this girl cusses a lot So I kind of want to give them a heads up you want to talk about evil this girl Says that little girls died because of racism and look at the evil in her and she says you reap what you saw You want to see have you seen this one? Let me see. Look at this little bit Y'all scary as fuck and I don't give a damn Them little girls them people died because of racism not politics boom. I said it I don't give a fuck. Oh my god. Yeah, I don't know. Oh my disgusting. Yeah Disgusting human beings Adam give final thoughts. Yeah, look, I'll just try to make some sense of this. Look, there's

God made natural disasters and then there's man-made disasters every single one of the situations that happen America is a combination of both. And it's just how do you sort of where does it fall in the spectrum? So for instance, you know, Hurricane Katrina, God made disaster, but what happened with the levees? What happened with the LA fires just a handful of months ago? Right? Was that God made? Was that manmade? Now that we're seeing the Texas floods? What do you mean God made?

Natural disasters to natural death? Well, God's not up there making natural disaster. He allows me to maybe world to spin Okay, maybe you're taking my what I'm saying literally literally but why don't want hurricanes earthquakes? These aren't man doesn't cause these Natural disaster calls these yeah, I'm not saying that God is good pulling the strings that want this but these are natural disasters yes yes I don't okay got you think that you're saying the other I don't think anybody interpreted like that but thank you Tom you don't read the comments the the reality is this something like this has happened in Texas before in the 80s I want to say yes 87. I actually have a

video of that. Okay, so maybe we can play that but it's almost like fool me once. Right? Shame on you fool me twice shame on me. Texas should have been better prepared for this. Now people want to blame Trump. Okay. I think the governor Abbott bears responsibility here. 25 feet of flooding is the greatest flooding I think they've ever seen since whatever in the 80s. There was no there was a lack of warning systems. There was a lack of escape routes. You know, there's missiles that are flying in Israel every single day. The entire country basically has missile warnings. Get the shelter. How do they not have this in rural area in Texas? Flood warnings?

Any sort of device, mechanism to basically alert people so not all floods are gonna happen at 9 a.m. on a Tuesday. It happened at one in the morning on July 4th, I wanna say. So you can't predict the timing. What about escape routes? What's going to happen? Also there's planning, there's budgeting, there's staff,

there's questions of underfunding. The same questions that we asked in LA, the same questions that should be asked in Texas. Yeah, I mean that's fair to have the accountability. I will tell you though, when stuff like this, this is tragic. The governor should take inventory and audit, see what's going on. The nasty comments, this one right here with the person made, pediatrician fired right after the comments she made, what they voted for, that's what what they got the non-maga voters. That's gonna be happening

It's very nasty. You learn about people's profiles of where they're at But the reality of it is by the way, she got fired just so you know good She got fired but Texas should find a way to address this you know, we lived in Texas for five years and Tom you lived in a place where the second floor, the pipes blew up and your bed fell on your daughter's bed and God willing nobody, thank God, nobody was in the house on that day when you remember the cold weather when the pipes were blowing up and all over Texas. It was a move. All the pipes froze. We had an event.

We had an event. It's spring for an hour. You remember TJ had an event at the Gaylord that they were freezing in a hotel room do you remember that zoom that we were doing and they're all cold there but let's go to the last story before we wrap up Vinnie ice in LA mayor bass confronts federal agents and MacArthur

Park demands withdrawal now here this thing backfires because you got to see this folks so MacArthur according to mayor Bass is a very peaceful place children of skipping and playing very peaceful place a federal immigration sweep by immigration and customs ice occurred at MacArthur Park in LA West Lake District on Monday morning with aerial images shown agents and armored vehicles unmarked white vans, and on horseback, prompting L.A. Mayor Bass to confront them asking, can I talk to them? And stating, I'm

going to let you watch this clip here. This is the scene, I believe it's at 1107, call the sweep. Go're departing. Okay. Okay. Mayor. Thank you. My comment is they need to leave and they need to leave right now. Except to speak with Mayor. Mayor. Who did you speak with on the phone? What did he speak with on the phone just now? Who did he speak with on the phone?

Wow. Why don't you ever care this much when homeless junkies take machetes and hit women? What was the other clip Rob that... So here's drone footage of what MacArthur Park usually looks like. Yeah, you can...

That's an average day at MacArthur Park. That guy smoking crack, this guy just has a gung, gang members are there, these guys are tripping out all freaking day, this is MacArthur Park. Not what Karen Bass is lying to you guys about, for the people that don't know anything about California, you never lived there, okay?

That's what they're doing. Out in the open, shooting up heroin and doing crack. That's MacArthur, that's the MacArthur. They just need to have President Xi of China show up just like Gavin Newsom will clean up San Francisco. That's what they got to do with this situation. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. The fact that she's there, Pat. She's out there. Okay, getting a photo op and interfering with ice. Okay,

that's obstruction. This isn't this isn't leadership. This is them going through. Did you see this? This is ICE. Yeah, they're going through to clean up the BS. They're going through. Get to Toronto's main venues like Budweiser Stage and the new Rogers Stadium with Go Transit. Thanks to Go Transit's special online e-ticket fairs, a $10 one-day weekend pass offers unlimited travel on any weekend day or holiday, anywhere along the Go network. And the weekday group passes offer the same weekday travel flexibility across the network,

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This is that and this is them Pat. This is a faster sped up mode of it. And what are they doing? They're trying to find people well there here They're just sweeping to get rid of everybody that's doing drugs and and and they're looking for Gang members because a lot of gang members and stuff hang out here, and they're selling drugs here That's what they're doing so her showing up there. She's obstructing. That's what she's doing okay, and meanwhile she's there The Maje fire is raging

In san luis abispo over 80 000 acres. It's not contained. This is this is her priority Okay, and the democratic part the mayor of this place san luis abispo is two hours away. Yeah, but but the challenges with how nasty That city has turned into And is this going to lead to somebody else getting elected? turned into and is this gonna lead to somebody else getting elected? Who knows? Is this gonna lead into somebody else coming in taking charge? And now you're seeing what ICE, Tom, did you see the stories about some of the employees are just not showing up to work because they're worried about someone's gonna come and figure out that they're illegals and send them home? In

California, there was a story there last week we had on that, Rob. I don't know if you remember that. I'm sure it didn't roll into today's story. It's in Immigration News page 11. Ice Raids derail Los Angeles economy. What page is that? Is that addendum or main page? Main page 11. Guys if you're watching this and you want these notes that we're going through all you have to do is go to PBD podcast Manect Circle and that's the QR code right there go to it you'll be able to follow these stories with us and connect with other and that's the QR code right there, go to it. You'll be able to follow these stories with us and connect with other people that watch the podcast.

But let me go to this. So ICE raids derail LA economy as workers go into hiding. This is from Bloomberg. Immigration raid by ICE between June 6th and June 22nd arrested 1,600 people in LA. Damn. Targeting car washes, construction sites, and day labor hubs, causing workers like farmers

and landscapers to abandon job sites, Arturo Snyder, chief executive officer of Prime Star, said, we don't have enough people to staff and work and we're scrambling to figure it out, noting that it's triggering delays. Mayor Bass stated, �We know that Los Angeles is the test case and we will stand strong as the raids cause severe economic damage to rebuilding efforts post-wildfires. The raids have disrupted LA's economy, already strained by wildfire that torched over 16,000 structures. With a report estimating a need of 70,000 additional workers by mid-2026, Clare de De Beer, founder of LA-based CC Ventures, said, we're already

labor challenged and you're adding unpredictability through the rates, which is only going to increase cost and slow things down. Tom? Hey, you know what? So basically, the underground economy in LA is preying on these people that are coming here and paying them what they're paying them to do these jobs. And now, that's been going on so long, so unchecked, sanctuary state, remember, we're not just a sanctuary city, long, so unchecked, sanctuary state.

Remember we're not just a sanctuary city, Vitti, we're a sanctuary state, right? Okay, and now the raids are coming here to find out who's right, who's wrong. And this parallels into Pat, Trump talking about yesterday saying that he will consider an amnesty program or they're evaluating potential amnesty program that if you've been here what four years, no crimes, prove you've been paying taxes even if you had a bogus social security number, you've been paying taxes that will figure out a path for you because he's saying apparently you know lobbyists and people from hospitality And agriculture coming to him saying hey, buddy We get a lot of people here that we think they're good people, but they're here illegally

They shouldn't be here, and they're here illegally, but they're working for hotels or working for in agriculture You know what if we had you know this goes back to Obama and the Dreamer Act, you know, do we find out who's naughty, who's nice, and let the ones that are proven that you were paying taxes, behaving yourself, and trying to assimilate, and working, not taking a bunch of free stuff, but actually working? Is this it, Rob?

This is the announcement from July 4th, yes, about the Amnesty Program. You know, you probably saw, I got myself into a little trouble because I said I don't want to take people away from the farmers and we're going to do something I think that's going to be good because we want all the criminals out. Everybody agrees that we're finding the criminals, the murderers, the drug dealers, we're getting them the hell out of here. But the farmers, some of the farmers, many of you sitting right here, I have four friends

right in the fifth row, but some of the farmers, many of you sitting right here, I have four friends right in the fifth row. But some of the farmers, they've had people working for them for years. And we're gonna do something, we're working with Christie. And we're gonna do something that we're gonna sort of put the farmers in charge. And if somebody, if a farmer's been with one of these people that work so hard, they'd bend over all day. We don't have too many people can do that. But they work very hard.

The messaging is not there yet. He'll tighten up the messaging because you have to find a way to give the messaging the right way because there are some people that literally want everybody out. There's a group of people that want every one of these illegal immigrants out. And you saw that Anton, Rob, was that Anton's CNN poll? I have some stuff. Rob, I texted you a bunch of stuff. Well, he said they're supporting what Trump is doing with deport.

This is it. This was on CNN. Majority of Americans approve of deporting. None of that is Fox, by the way. I guess this is all illegal immigrants. And there's real uniformity here. That's what I really think you see is real uniformity. Deported all immigrants who are here illegally. 55% of the New York Times. Marquette 64%. CBS News 57%. ABC News with a slightly different

question 56%. So what you're seeing essentially here is very clear indication that a majority of Americans, in fact when they're asked this blunt question, which I believe gets at the underlying feelings, do in fact want to deport all immigrants who are here illegally. There's no arguing with these different numbers because they're all essentially the same across four different polls. You could just take it here. Closer to trust more in immigration, Democrats versus Republicans. Got three different polls for you across the board. They all tell the same story. Republicans lead on the issue of immigration. You see it here CBS plus six. You see it here CNN plus six. You see it here Ipsos even

bigger plus 19. No matter what poll you look at, no matter which way you cut it, the American public is with the Republicans. The American public is with Donald Trump. Let me tell you why. You know that chart we showed a minute ago on how much UK lost millionaires? Rob, just pull it back up because it's gonna be a different clip than the other ones. So some audience just watch this clip, they don't watch the whole thing. Watch this one here. Zoom in all the way to the bottom. All the way to the bottom.

Look who's lost the most millionaires. UK. It's not even close. Why? Migration. Forcing people to not feel safe of their country so they're going elsewhere. And guess who's no longer number one? Go all the way to the top. We used to be number one Yes, who's number one you know, it's UAE

So us this is a place we competed first place for many many years So a lot of Americans are like look man, you're gonna come here. You're gonna love America You're gonna love what we're all about. You're not gonna sit here and trash us. You're a guest here You better respect the house that you come in to be a guest in instead of coming and trying to trash this place if you want to do that go back to your country and understand that part it's actually very clear argument Adam go ahead no look the stats what does what does Tom always say words talk numbers scream the numbers speak for itself are screaming they're screaming Rob I sent you a couple

different things here the biggest thing for me was how much the world has changed and perspective has changed just in the last 10 years. June of 2017, go down one. June of 2017, Trump's net approval on immigration. This was basically his first year as president. He's underwater 21 points. Now he's up. There's another stat over here that shows 2020 the Dems. Do you have that other one? This one right here. Who do you trust more on immigration? Do you trust the Democrats or you trust the Republicans? In 2020 when Trump had just left office and Biden was showing up, 32 points plus Dems. Now it's plus 40 swing in favor of Trump. Basically what's happened is everything that Trump talked about, people weren't ready for 10 years ago.

And now as the manifestation has played out, especially under Biden, everyone's like, can we just have what Trump was talking about in 2016? And that's exactly what they're signing up for. And by the way, it's not opinion. This is a poll of their opinion, but these opinions are being driven by facts. When we did the decision 2024, where week by week we counted down, we can tell you,

absolutely conclusively, in Arizona, you had Democrats and Republicans that could see the homeless, the illegal immigrants that were homeless by gas stations, by in front of Walmart, they saw it on their front porch. And immigration was number one for Democrats and and Republicans in Arizona because they both took their children down to Walmart and both said, what is up with all this humanity here that doesn't make me feel safe? That's it. That's the way they felt in Texas. That's the way they felt in Mississippi. That's the way they felt in Florida. And then you go to Southern California, take a look at what happened to San Diego and Orange County, how red that got during the election now go to Missouri Missouri all the sudden woman's right to choose is number two the economy was number one immigration number three why because it wasn't Sitting there on their front porch in Missouri And so the experience that Americans are happening and what everybody saw with what was coming across the border Americans have said Wait a minute wait a minute. This isn't an opinion poll

This is an absolute is a poll, but it's not an opinion. This is the experience of the American people under the last four years of unchecked immigration that are saying, wait a minute, make it stop. And they're happy that he made it stop. And by the way, would you like to know what community has the highest anti-illegal immigration sentiment? Latinos.

First generation citizen Latinos. You go down to Miami and stuff and they'll say, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I came here legally. My parents, my mom came here legally. After my dad came here, we're talking first generations. These are people that you went to school with Adam in a community like Miami that was very diverse and had a high percentage of Hispanics. Pat and I saw it in PHP a high percentage of people that are first generation that the first generation

Hispanics they are more you know why you know what they say Vinny this will make perfect sense to you because the illegals come to our neighborhoods because it's easy to hide and they get they get people Giving them lodging and helping them and stuff And so then some of the bad apples are there in our community we get impacted first Because the criminal element hides right among our community. Where are they gonna hide Greenwich, Connecticut? community where they gonna hide Greenwich, Connecticut? No. Good joke. Well okay folks there's a bunch of other stories we can get into but we are we've been going for almost three hours today to catch up on a lot of stories and we're gonna be doing this again

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