PBD Podcast - Epstein Victims PRESSURE Congress, Trump's Trans BAN, RFK Jr. Hearing & Florida's Mandate Move | PBD Podcast | Ep. 642

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down Epstein victims pressuring Congress for action, Trump’s push for a transgender ban, and Florida’s massive new mandate move.------Ⓜ️ JOIN THE PBD PODCAST CIRCLES COMMUNITY: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/40lR90L⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

second. Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm supposed to take sweetly. I know this life man for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever sides. Right here. You are a one of one? My son's drive there. I think I've ever said this before. We're about to see this. All right. We are officially live. And hopefully you're on time, folks. We've been waiting for you this entire time in the room. Where are you?

Wake up. Where are you being, how? It's 9 o'clock. Okay, so first of all, listen, breaking news. I had no idea. Tree planters made $7 million a year not doing anything. Did you know that's maybe the highest paying job for the least amount of work you do? Tree planters.

There's this guy named Kauai Leonard who gets paid $7 million a year, allegedly, to plant trees that he never plants. So listen, if anybody ever offers a job like that, you may want to consider it. We're going to talk about that story. Putin invites Zelensky to have a meaning in Russia. It's like, why don't we have this meeting in Russia? And Zelensky is like, is this a or no. Who knows what's going to be happening there? I got a couple people I've got to give a shout out to.

One of them is the greatest pastor in the world. And the other one is somebody I lost to in Domino, two games in Normian, Tikron, with flabbergasted. It's not a comfortable thing for me to do. But I told them, I said, I'm going to give you a shout out on the podcast because of how embarrassing this is. But we will do it.

This is going to be this tough for me to do. This is happening on Monday, on Labor Day. I really don't want to talk about it too long. I'm going to give a little bit of intel into it. Okay, America's population set to shrink for the first time ever. Folks, if you had to choose between watching this podcast and making babies, I'm okay with you going

and making babies because we need some babies to be made. And Tom, please turn off your 58 alarms. Federal judge rules against Trump's administration funding cuts to Harvard. Unemployed workers outnumber available job cuts for the first time since 2021. Trump to host Tech CEOs, these are a bunch of rich guys for the first event in newly renovated Rose Garden. Delusional CNN host denies polls showing Americans approve of Trump's crime crackdown, dear Abby. Could be the person's name. Who knows?

President Trump praises military strike on Venezuelan drug boat He's looking to ban You're ready for this one? This should be an easy one Trump looking to ban transgender people From having a gun And declaring them mentally ill This is going to upset a lot of people

But it's a good move I think it's a good move Trump asked Supreme Court to green light tariffs Florida Surgeon General Announced its first state by the way to consider this Plans to end vaccine mandates in schools The first state to pull this off By the way, Rob, were you surprised how long they clapped for him?

Yeah, it was about 40, 45 seconds. Are you kidding me? Like the people wouldn't stop clapping for the guy. So that's Florida, folks, but stay in California. It's awesome. Stay in New York. You got an incredible mayor around the corner, but there looks like something we talked about on Wednesday

maybe becoming a reality. Progressive Darling AOC is teaming up with Republicans on a rare issue they have in common, taking on their colleagues who may be cashing in, on insider information. Elhan Omar's network is reportedly swords after call a millionaire claims ridiculous. Eric Adams, White House in talks

over Trump's administration job as pressure amounts for New York City mayoral candidate to sink Zoran Mamdani, MSNBC panelists brawl over hypocrite, socialist Mamdani's rent-stabilized apartment. Anyways, there's a lot of stuff going on there that if these two or three stepped out, he would be, and we talked about it again on Wednesday,

but it's been officially validated. Pashinyan, I have to talk about this. Prime Minister of Armenia, after Benjamin Netanyahu recognizes the Armenian Genocide, he joins Erdogan from Turkey in objecting to Armenian Genocide recognition. Can you imagine, if I told you 20 years ago, Armenia is going to have a Prime Minister, after Israel recognizes the Armenian Genocide, and that Prime Minister is going to team up and side with Erdogan, the guy who's leading Turkey. If I told you to average Armenia that was going to happen, they would say, you're out of your mind, Pat.

Relax. Conservative media at war with Newsmax accuses Fox News of shocking tactics to edge out rival Paramount. You guys remember the Barry Wise story? We talked about not Barry White. Barry Weiss wanted $200 million. Well, guess what? She's about to get it. Paramount to buy.

Barry Weiss's free press for up to $200 million. and given her senior editorial role at CBS report. Congratulations to her. If this is true, very happy for her. Daily Wire host calls for the execution of Chicago's mayor. No, he didn't. Oh, my God. Who wrote the story, by the way?

Mediite. Okay, all right. Well, let's see what they have to say. Fun with headlines. That's why. Salesforce cuts 4,000 jobs due to AI. CEO says Google ruling show anti-Adams. Just grab a seat, buddy.

You're okay. Google's ruling shows. anti-trust tools struggle to keep up with tech markets. And then we're going to talk about the tree planting guy. And then a few other things happened. I thought Messi played lights out last night against Venezuela. To all our Venezuelans that we love, he whooped on you guys. And by the way, Messi gave two or three passes that honestly you have to be a magician to get it that perfect.

And he made it look so easy. So last night, Dylan's at the house. He comes back from practice, frigging four-hour practice. And I'm telling him, Messi had a great game. Messy had a great game. Messy had a great pass. He says, Dad, I got it. Messy had a great game.

Really? I don't want to hear it. That he had a great game. I said, but he kind of plays the way you play. He says, I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. Just because Messi didn't talk to him at that one game. Hey, oh well. From that day.

He's just anti him. It's so funny. It's so funny. And then we got a few other things with the RFK hearing. If you guys didn't see it, we'll show you a couple clips. It's pretty nasty how some of the people went after him. Deerborn Heights. You guys ready for this?

This upsets me. In the U.S. is the first city to have Arabic police patch. Did you want in America, in an American city, to make sure other people know that it's the Dearborn Heights Police Department. It's written in Arabic. Fantastic. And to see something like that happen. And Venezuela, we'll talk about the Venezuelan stuff. Kane, Tim Kane is his name, right?

Former VP candidate of the Great Hillary Clinton. No lips. He has no lips. Sparks backlash. You have to call on the Declaration of Independence. God-given rights extremely troubling. And maybe we'll get into a couple other... But can I make one observation? We didn't plan this. No, we didn't plan this at all. We looked like two future looks bright, silver. This is my favorite shirt. I have a gold one. And on the back, the logo is also elevated.

I didn't know that that the logo is elevated. They can't see it. That logo is elevated. That is so sick. Vinie, take your shirt off real quick. Let me see what's going on. It's tattooed on my chest. It's embossed with the rest. silver. Yeah, the elevated one is, and that's not the elevated one, Rob, if you can go back, I think it's that one right there, the bottom one. Click on that. Is that what you clicked on? That's it. That's the elevated. Yeah, it's ridiculous. And that is

absolutely sick. Very cool. Folks, go get these because these products, I wore them, it feels anybody that sees it up front, they can't believe what it's like, what it looks like. Can I say one thing? May I go ahead. I wash, I wash and dry. I'm dead serious. Nothing's, I wash

and dry. Nothing comes off. Nothing Because the majority of these do mess up. It's amazing. Take it off. It's magical. For those of you in California, the ink is flame retardant. Go wildfire season. Go to vTmerge.com.

Get your future looks bright. By the Rob, can you go to the new polo? Can you go to the polo shirts that we got? Guys, I saw a polo shirt that just came in. Eric Caballero was wearing it. First of all, I could not believe how ridiculous these polos were. Can you just go to search and type and, okay, go a little bit lower. See maybe if it's there.

Go a little bit lower, lower, lower, lower. Oh, you're about to get there. to keep going lower, that one right there to the right. Oh, snap. Oh, my God. And he's jacked. By the way, zoom in. Go back a little bit, Rob, to zoom in.

The buttons are Valuetainan logo buttons. I got it. And the material is read. I should have shown you the picture of Eric Caballero wearing that shirt. And he's jacked. Put the link to that as well. The material of these polos are awesome for some of you guys that are going to work. It's hot.

You want to wear something nice. These are high, high end quality polo shirts that just came in as well. Rob, if you want to put it on VT merch. Again, this is to all the people that we see. The other day, one of my guys goes to, he's wearing a PBD podcast shirt, and he goes out to a game. He says, Pat, if I tell you 50 people stop to come and talk to me,

we watch it as well, we watch it as well, we watch it as well, to all the crazies out there that support what we're doing. We love you. We appreciate you. And we cannot wait to run into you somewhere here soon. Who knows where that's going to be. Too many of you will see you guys in Orlando. Monday.

We'll all be there. Monday. Vault conference craziness. That's right. It's going to come real quick. All right. Let's get right into it. Just remind me to give those two shoutouts to the greatest pastor and to the domino. Rob, can you remind me to do that before the end of it? I want to get into those stories as well. All right. Okay. So let's get into it. What's the first story we want to go to, Rob? What is the audience saying? What do they want to get into? 50% want to hear about the Epstein press conference yesterday. So we don't even have anybody that wants to say anything about that, Rob. So where is that story?

Not a single person picked the story of Epstein. All right. So let's go through. one of them. Let me see this year. I have six other stories. I've seen his number one. Which one do we want to go with? You know what? Why don't you, do you have the Rokana and Thomas Massey one, Rob? Is that Thomas Massey saying something? This is Thomas Massey yesterday at the hearing

or I'm sorry, at the press conference where he talks about the claims that this is going to be another hoax. And the FD. Fowls are a hoax. Go to play this clip. I think it's shameful that this has been called a hoax. Hopefully today we can clear that up. This is not a hoax. This is real.

There are real survivors. There are real victims to this criminal enterprise. And the perpetrators are being protected because they're rich and powerful and political donors to the establishment here in Washington, D.C. Okay. So aside from that, I saw Gloria All Red calling out. I saw a bunch of different things. Is this Rokana and what is he saying here? This is Thomas Massey.

He names one of the people implicated in. in the Epstein. Yeah, because what he says with Rokana, he says, these kids, these girls, if they go out and say the names, they will be sued for the rest of their lives. He says, but I can do it. We are going to read out the names.

So apparently him and Rokana want to go out and read off the names that they have because they're not worried about them being sued. But the people that know the names are being told by their lawyers to not leak the names because of specific reasons. Who knows? Gloria Alred, who is somebody who is representing,

by the way, Gloria Alred, I believe is representing 27 of them. the rape victims, Rob, can you validate what I just, it's a 26 or 27, Gloria Allred, who is the goat in the space of, what do you want to call this? The sexual harassment stuff, she's been the one. One of the, a very good documentary about her will tell you why she is, yeah, 27 survivors she's representing. So she's representing 27 of the Epstein victims and they're worried about going out and giving

the names, but here's what Thomas Massey had to say. Go ahead, Rob. name of one of the billionaires who's running two million dollars of ads in my district since I started this effort. His name is John Paulson. He's a hedge fund manager and a major donor to the Republican Party, a major donor to the Speaker of the House, a major donor to the president's campaign. And he's in Epstein's Black Book.

Now that's public, but that's indicative of the types of people who may be implicated or just embarrassed by a release of a completely release of these files. Okay. So, Vinny, question to you. Yes. Do you still believe nothing's going to happen to the names? Do you still believe Thomas Massey's time is being wasted? Do you still believe Rokana is wasting his time, seeing all the stuff that they're saying because nothing's going to happen?

Or do you believe there's going to be a little bit of justice for some people out there? What I wish, Pat, and what I know it, like not what I believe is going to happen. happen are complete on the opposite. You know what I wish for. I want every single person, not just on the list, Pat. I want who was there victim, corroborated story, footage that all of a sudden nobody knows where it is. No cash but tell, no, remember the 10,000 hours of footage, okay? What I'm, what I'm starting to feel like is because a lot of people are like Trump's on it, Trump's on it, Trump's on it, Trump's on it. Let's put that to the side. We're finding out that people like John Paulson, who was one of the biggest donors to the

president, okay, is on that list, okay? And by the way, I do not like how everybody has turned on Thomas Massey. He's the only one to me, him and like Marjorie Taylor Green that are actually still keeping this fire freaking lit and keeping it going. Okay, a lot of people are saying, you know, what's her name, Gloria Albright, this whole thing lost credibility because she's involved because she's all, you know, all about the glitz and the glamour. But think about it. John Paulson's one of them, Pat, if we have to think about it, besides Bill Clinton. Besides, you know, the intelligence agency, which Paula Luna just came out

and said that, and Rob, I might have sent it to you. Paula Luna said that the intelligence stuff, that the league documents have the CIA, have Israel, and have Russia, and I believe China. Everybody was... Now there's more countries involved? She, and I think, yeah, that's it. Pat, you look right there. She says, in my opinion,

there's definitely an intelligence connection. Countries named, and the lead attorney for the witnesses included Saudi Arabia, Russia, Israel, as well as former CIA director, inferred to the CIA director under the Bush administration. So it's more than just America or Mossad, you're saying? Russia and Saudi are involved?

I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised. Why would I be surprised? So all I heard it was all massage. So my thing is this, but who, if Trump isn't in there and Trump is innocent, then there has, what's the other explanation? What's the other reason? Protecting people that have given you millions and millions to win.

Bill Gates, who I know we'll get into later, Bill Gates yesterday, this guy of all the stuff that he's done, he's sitting next to the president, like everything is good. And Melania. Right there. Mind you, this is the guy that his wife, Melinda, left him, and the main reason she said, her words,

was because of his relationship after Epstein was already a convicted pedophile. She said, when I first met him, he was evil personified. You know what I mean? That's a huge step. She said, she goes, he was appurant and she goes, I... So what are you saying? You're saying you're saying that the president

is protecting a guy like Bill Gates? I believe, like people like John Paulson and stuff, this is my, this is just against some people would say that the reason that this hasn't come out, because I mean, how many mess-ups, how many lies from Pan Bondi to Cash Patel to

Dan Bongino looking like this? He killed himself. Like somebody had a gun to his head to now Trump saying it's a Democrat hoax. Something is off. Something is off. And I don't think we're ever going to get to the actual answer and I don't think anybody will go to jail anybody and that's a sad sad thing for yeah I don't know if okay so Martha Stewart she went to jail for five months yeah for

inside of training and some for something that everybody today does and she went away for right okay do I do I think no one's going to be held accountable so watch this Vinnie here's one we have thinking about it if you don't believe no one's going to be held accountable not 100%. It's never going to be 100%. Just so you know that. It's never going to be 100%. The reason why it's never going to be 100% is why. You don't have enough documents to prove. By the way, it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Yes. But guess what the court needs? Proof. Proof. Yeah, show me. So I'm talking to one of the guys at school and the dean at school and he says to me, says, Pat, if I get a claim and if I don't have documentation, if I don't have anything, if I don't have anything, if I don't have

anything, I move on. I can't do anything with it. I need something and a couple other witnesses to say something like that happen. If they have it, they can do it. But watch this. If you don't believe anything can happen and nothing will be held accountable, why are we talking about it? Why are we talking about it? Why talk about it on the podcast? Why bring it up?

What's the outcome of us talking about it? I want them to know that we know. I want them. But they know. But they know. We need to say it one time and it's plenty. But actually think about to the core. Why do we talk about a certain story?

How many times, Rob, would you say, in all the podcasts in 2025, how many podcasts, say we've done two, four, eight, eight times seven months, let's you say is what, 56? Out of the 56 podcasts we've done this year, Home Team Rob, how many times you think Epstein's been mentioned in one of those 56 podcasts? Maybe a quarter. Maybe a quarter? 25%. I agree. So let's just say 14.

Higher than that. Yeah. Go on. Let's just say 14. Why are we talking about it? Actually ask the question. why are we talking about? Actually, answer the question? Yeah. Because we have, I mean, I mean, we're at the point where we are right now because we know it's absolutely insane

because they get away with murder, literally, that we want something to change. Something to happen. I want justice for the, what does that come from? What emotion produces that? It's one word. And it starts with the letter H. It's one word. No, hope. Oh, yeah. I mean, I, I hope that they're going to freaking, but guess what we need with hope? Hope is a very powerful thing. The moment you no longer hope, you no longer think justice will be held, hope is gone. When hope is gone, what do people do? They give up. When people give up, what happens?

More victims. So I believe even bringing it up, and now you're seeing Marjorie. Taylor Green. You're seeing Rokane. You're seeing Massey. By the way, Marjorie Taylor Green isn't part of the same camp as Massey. I think Massey's here. Marjorie Taylor Green is here.

Marjorie Taylor Green was the one when Kevin McCarthy was up on there negotiating all this stuff says hey pick up the phone Trump like that's people forget who she is she's like a America first Trump at the highest level now she's here Rob going to play this clip

the largest press conference that I've seen since I've been here and this is because this is an issue that matters so much to Americans this is an issue that doesn't have political boundaries it's it's a an issue that Republicans and Democrats should never fight about.

As a matter of fact, it's such an important issue that it should bring us all together. It's grieved me to watch the arguments and debates take place among my colleagues and even the administration. I think this is something that's worth fighting for. You see, the women behind me are you going to tell you stories that you've never heard before? These are unimaginable horrors that they've lived with for their entire lives since they were very, very young.

But these are also similar stories that many children, teenagers, women, and even men are enduring nightmares right now as we speak. You can pause it. So she goes on and then Rob, there's another clip as well. What is the other clip that the President Trump calling you a hoax? Go for it. So this is a Democrat hoax that never ends. You know, it reminds me a little of the Kennedy situation.

We gave them everything over and over again, more and more and more. And nobody's ever satisfied. From what I understand, I could check, but from what I understand, thousands of pages of documents have been given. But it's really a Democrat hoax because they're trying to get people to talk about something that's totally irrelevant to the success that we've had as a nation since I've been president. Both can be right. I know, I know.

Why are you saying a hoax? Yep, it's not a hoax. Why don't you just say, let's see what happens. I've empowered my guys to find out. So let me ask you a question then, Pat. Why would he say that? Why would the President of the United States say, which we all know is not true, that this is a hoax?

There are women that are standing there that I guarantee would pass a lie detector test, that they were assaulted by Jeffrey Epstein. And here's my thing, Pat. they're saying we have the names we're going to put out our own list why don't they go in a session bring them in there bring the people in there

it'd be easy to corroborate with evidence of the footage that the FBI or somebody has which is it missing they have the footage of Jeffreins of his house with all the footage what are we even talking about Rob what is this to fly over okay so this clip right here

hang on once in here F16s flew over the Epstein press conference while the victims Let's hear it. Justice telling me that this was going to happen when it had already happened. This woman abused children. Who's flying over? What is that?

Us are our FCC? Intentionally? I have no idea, but the timing is pretty freaking crazy. Look how long they have to stop talking. This is taking place in D.C. Yes. On Capitol. Tom, your thoughts.

Tom, your thoughts here. So some things die, some things stay, and some things keep getting bigger. And when you have stories like this, this one keeps getting bigger. Now you've got Gloria Allred with even more victims talking about New Mexico ranch, not just the island, not just laying. Zora Ranch. Yeah, the ranch in 1996. So you've got three women that's saying, I will give you dates. I will show you flights. I will show you where it was.

And we're compiling our own list. So to me, that's more stuff coming. Why do these people do it? They're not paid influencers hiding behind an account on X, just trying to how with the moon on some issue. You know how that works. They lobbyists and pay people to do that. No, these are people coming to a microphone, putting their face in the public eye, and it's getting worse. And now MTG, she comes down there, and now she comes out.

And there's little things going on. What's she doing? And people are upset with her. She's taking political risk coming to that microphone. And now you have MTG. It's getting worse. And so I look at it is that people are realizing the depth of what happened here. And I think that there's a deal.

It's like, why does Just Lane go from one prison down to the, a lesser prison? A lesser restrictive and a lesser hospital. harsh prison by a lot of people's descriptions that's in Texas. How did she move there? It was this part of the negotiation? I'll talk to you, I'll give you an interview, but you got to move me to a little bit more comfortable prison. They didn't send her to a condo. They sent her to another prison.

So, Pat, it keeps getting worse, and that's what bothers me. What bothers me is more keeps coming out. It's not more people covering it. He just has to do one thing. Stop calling you a hoax. agree stop you know trolling this topic because you're turning your own team against you keep saying i've empowered bondi i've empowered cash i've empowered anna paulina i've empowered them and whatever they come out with we will release stop calling it a hoax you can't keep calling it

a hoax it is it is it is you have so many great things that's going on right now in America. So many great things. Streets of the biggest criminal, you know, crimes, homicides, taking, you're cleaning it up. Border is clean. Tariffs, $30 billion in August, guys. $30 billion of revenue in August. Cash to the U.S. and the United States. Cash to the U.S. This is a record-breaking month in the history of America with tariffs. They thought inflation was going to be crazy. Didn't happen.

You got stuff that's going on right now where piv-eat rates are about to go down three more times. between now and the end of the year, give or take, two or three more time between now and the end of the year. This is stuff that we've never seen borders clean. You're doing deals with people. You've cornered people that are wanting to do stuff with you. They're coming to you. They're knocking on the door.

Don't say hoax. It's not helping your camp out. Leave it alone and let them do the job. He has a way of saying things, which is very powerful. I hope he's watching this, even if it's by himself. When you say things like, I don't know. Honestly, I don't know what's going on with that. I mean, the reality, I've hired great people,

and let's see what they find out, and justice will prevail. And let's leave it up to them. And if it happened, great. If it didn't happen, great. But guess what? What I don't like is a lot of people use the Me Too movement to ruin a lot of men's lives. And that concerns me.

And that's something that makes me very uncomfortable. Because we saw when it happened at first, everything was about Me Too, Me Too, Me, To Everybody, one by one by one, they started to $30 million, 20 million, 18 million, 16 million. like, let me get everybody. And doesn't mean everybody was part of the Me Too movement, right? So I'm a little bit sympathetic to that because I saw what happened to ruin a lot of men's lives.

But if there are people that did do it and there is proof to it, let justice prevail. It's all you have to say. You don't need to say hoax. There's no benefit of saying that. There's literally no benefit of calling it that. All these massive documentaries that are being done where kids are saying, a girl goes and brought 14-year-old girls to Epstein. that he hooked up with, and she got paid $200 for bringing a 14-year-old girl from her high school. You think that's an act?

And then she got in trouble because she brought 24 girls to Epstein. Why would she get in trouble for bringing 24 girls? Why would the cops say you're also committing a crime? What is the crime? She brought underage girls to Epstein. The cop says, you're also a criminal. What do I do wrong? How about him?

Well, no, you're bringing underage. So if she's getting in trouble for it, so that means he's doing it, So if he's doing it, the victims are there. This is not a, this is overly documented. So, I don't know, I think every time it goes like this, notice the pattern with, and I don't want to go a lot with Epstein from you're and Adam. I just want to move on to the next stories. If you have anything unique, you want to say, tell me.

If it's anything that's the same old, this is not on my top 20 list, this is not this. We can just move on. I'll come to a different story with you. But that's what I want you to be thinking about. If it goes like this, notice the Epstein story. It peaks, then what does it do? Dips. Dips.

And then you say hoax, and it comes back up. Yep. So guess what? It's because you keep, you're the momentum. Change the script. Give a different message

and let your guys do the part. Whatever you truly want to say, say privately, stop calling it a hoax publicly. There's other things that we can go with. I just don't know if I like that approach that he's taken. Is there anything unique you want to say? Go ahead. so you may not want to call it a hoax you might not want to call it a cover up but you can certainly call it a secret

because are you familiar with the secret rule in grand jury testimonies a rule called 6e if you heard about any of this so you guys cover epstein more than me but i heard something that might be the reason that nobody can say a damn word so find out what rule 6 is it's basically secrecy it's a secrecy rule for the u.s federal grand juries and it's basically a shield where you can't say anything at all. It's like a gag order or a sealed document no matter what the rule is. So why does this always come back to the courts, always come back to the courts, always come back to the courts? You think Thomas Massey knows anything about this? You think Marjorie Terrily Green knows anything about this?

If Pam Bondi and Cash Patel and Dan Bongino aren't saying anything, these two guys don't know anything. But I would encourage you to look into this thing called the secret rule. called Rule 6E. Shout out to Jeffrey Meade to talking about this. It's basically saying there's a gag order and you can't say a thing. So I'm removing complete emotion from this. Everyone gets so worked up about Epstein,

but according to sealed documents, they cannot unseal them in the court. What's the point? What do you mean? Rule 6E, secrecy requirement. So that's why you keep saying it's a hoax? And you think that's the right move? For me to keep saying it's a hoax,

Instead of saying, I've empowered people to do the job and let's see what comes out. I've empowered them to do the job. Now you're saying the biggest press conference now, girl that was on your side flips and is loud. You think Marjorie Taylor Green is quiet? Girl trains five, six times a day. She can do more push-ups and pull-ups than 99% of men out there. You think she's going to stop? You think that's going to stop?

Nancy Mace. Those are two different things. This could be correct. They can keep going. Yeah, but all I'm saying, my my frustration. with this isn't with this, let the guys do their part and find out what's the bottom of. Let's get to the bottom of this. I think everybody wants to get to the bottom of this, but this is a reason why they can never get to the bottom.

Because the courts are intervening and saying, no, you're not going to find out anything. These victims from New Mexico weren't in front of grand juries. They're coming to a microphone saying what happened to them in 1996. I didn't make this law, guys. No, Adam, what he's saying with the law is. Once you look up, it was meant to protect, it was meant to protect witnesses from other witnesses, that if I leaked, we're in a mob grand jury, and all of us are testifying against it, and I mention who was in there with me, and I mentioned also what went on in there, all of

us could be retaliated against by the mob that wants to kill witnesses. So there are things in grand jury. I don't have anything to do with Epstein. These victims from 1996 from New Mexico are talking about what happened to themselves. It definitely has something to do with Epstein, in open hearings that Nancy Mace leaves and tears because it relates to her. So there may be grand jury elements here, but there's a lot of people of kids, it's getting up. And, yeah, like, Blatson guy. Sorry, Pat, that's, no, no, don't argue with me.

No, we're not, no. Argue with Chad GPT and Rule 16. Adam, ready for this? Because that's what it says here. Adam, ready for this? I'm a girl that was assaulted by Epstein and some of these higher-ups. I haven't gone to court. I haven't done nothing, but I'm going to the stand and I have a story to tell. There's nothing to do with grand jury. She hasn't been to court yet. What happens to that girl?

Like, ready for this? I was raped. I was underage and X, X, and Z at Epstein Island Alter and guess what? They're all in government or they're all big Silicon Valley guys. She has nothing to do with this rule. That's the thing. How was she going to come forward? Because the one girl that came forward, what happened to her? Prince Andrew, the girl. They paid her

off, right? What was it, Pat? Virginia Gouffrey. What happened to that poor girl? They gave her money. The prince, a prince of England. She got hit by a bus. Got hooked up with an underage girl and you know his penalty was? A little bit of money and a slap on the wrist from the queen from his mother. And that was it. Pedophilia.

put under the rug that's it that's what happens it's very simple nobody's in the backyard for trying to get to the bottom line of why they're not selling these documents what did the girls

what did you have one of what the girls was saying or no yes that here's the victim talking about putting together their own list together go for it transparency is justice release the files

and the secrecy and stand with us in declaring that no one no billionaires no politicians not world leaders is above the law It's going to keep getting bigger, guys.

And let me announce now. For one reason. Several of us, F-teen, survivors, have been discussing, creating our own list of names. Please, hurry up. Do it. Why haven't they done it yet? They don't want to get hit by a freaking bus. So check this out.

So let me put it to this way. To me, every time he says, hoax, these things are going to get bigger. Very simple. Every time they say hoax, this is going to get bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. It ain't going to get smaller. FYI, if I was a Democrat right now, I would be running with this 24-7. Well, they are. If I was a Democrat.

No, they're not. Not like that. If I was a Democrat, I'm not talking mainstream. Because mainstream knows a lot of the guys on that list are also Democrats. So a lot of Democrats also don't want their best friends and stuff to be affected by it. So that's why they're not doing it. But if I'm anything on the other side, like you're seeing Newsom's driving this. Newsom's on top of it, right?

If I'm any of those guys, I'd be driving this. But I think Trump is sitting there saying they're not going to because both sides are implicated. Both sides are, what do you call it? Is that the word? Yeah, implicated them both guilty. So if they're both guilty, that's, but all I'm saying to you is keep saying hoax, keep saying hoax and see if this thing goes away. It's not going to go away. It's going to keep getting bigger.

Let's get to the next door here. next thing I want to get to is in regards to Mamdani and Eric Adams so it's a very interesting story of what happened here on Wednesday we read a poll that showed that if Curtis Sliwa

if Eric Adams and if you have those two stepped out the race Cuomo and Drew would be beating Mamdani and I was the poll and I said well if that's going to be the case someone's got to give

Mayor Adams a job, and someone's got to give Sliwa job at the White House. President Trump needs to make that phone call, and guess what happened? That's the story that apparently now circulating. Eric Adams and White House in talks. We literally said this two days ago. In talks over Trump administration job as pressure mounts for New York City mayoral candidates to sink Zoran Mamdani. Okay. Let me read this and then I'm going to come to this Mamdani because now Momdani is saying that, why don't you come and debate me? Mamdani is, he knows this game very well. You got to give him credit.

He knows how to do a spin job and make it all about him, and that's what he's supposed to be doing. Top White House officials are in talks with a potential job for Eric Adams, including a possible ambassadorship, nothing related to Turkey, as Tom said earlier, as pressure amounts for mayoral candidates to drop out in candidate support for around former Governor Andrew Cuomo to challenge Democratic Zoran Mamdani, A source close to Trump administration said, I think Adams will be able to craft a position in a portfolio

that's to his liking, while another source to the White House said, I've heard Adams, team wants it. And although Mayor Adams has been the most pro-housing mayor in New York City history, at no time did he ask for it, nor was he offered a job at HUD. So, hence, that's kind of one of the things that's coming up. I play this clip with Mamdani. I think it's outrageous.

And I think oftentimes in a race such as this, it's tempting to think of this solely in the question of how does this impact the race. But this is an affront to our city's democracy. This is an affront of the values that make so many of us proud to be Americans that we could choose our own leaders, not that our leaders pick themselves or their friends. And we're seeing in this time when Donald Trump has taken snap from hungry New Yorkers, has passed legislation that would throw millions of New Yorkers off their health insurance, that we have Democrats in Andrew Cuomo and Eric Adams working with this administration

to try and subvert the will of Democratic primary voters right here in New York City. Okay, so that's Mom Dany. Eric Adams denies that there was anything there. He's saying, what happened, Tom? He's saying there's anything there. What's this one, Rob? This is CNN reporting.

I can't find a clip of Eric Adams actually denying the rumors, but CNN reports that he has denied the room. That he has denied the report. Okay, so we don't need to play the clip. I thought it was Adams. That's fine. So we know he's denied it.

Tom, what do you think is going on here? Well, first of all, also, this just in, independent candidate, 3% of the polling. One poll had him at 4%. Jim Walden has dropped out. So now he's out, and we're working on Eric Adams. I love to carefully look at words that people say, I have not been offered a job in the White House. And then I looked around, and there was two little leaks,

and you don't know how credibility that he's actually being offered a job. job at HUD. Well, if he's offered a job at HUD, it's not the White House. It's not the White House. Very smart. I'm not being offered a job in the White. I'm being job on the HUD. But guess what? Whether there's smoke, there's fire. I believe Eric Adams is in talks. And by the way, if you look at his background with police and union and understanding the plight of the inner city and the things that he responded to with domestic violence and everything that he did with the police, I actually think he would be good at HUD with that kind of experience, with the kind of things that HUD tries to do to help downtown cities.

So I actually think Eric Adams, it wouldn't be like one of these, remember in college kids would get a job watering the grass for like $300 a week because he's on the football team. And then you find out that the sprinklers are on a timer. He's just giving him cash. He gets $300 a week. No, I don't think it's something like that at all. I think Eric Adams is negotiating.

I think you were dead on, Pat. You were correcting what you said. And now we're seeing it in print. I think he's going to be at HUD. I think that's very possible. I think that would actually be a good job for him. And Walden is out, which means that right now, that's probably another 10 full points. You go back to Cuomo.

So I think Cuomo is probably at 40.0 right now with this if he steps back. Now, Curtis. Silwa. Siliwa is the SILA or Slewa? From Guardian Angels. That's going to be the tough one. I think that's going to be the Ross Perra guy in the middle here. That's what I think.

Well, let me ask you a question. Do you guys think with all this, with Eric Adams leaving, Walden leaving, do you think New Yorkers are going to rally around Cuomo? Is that push going to be hard enough? Are they going to forget all the stuff he did while he was governor, especially during COVID with all the nursing home deaths that are, is looming over him? And the controversy with the women and all that stuff. As they say, that's his bloody albatross.

That's the old thing. You think that's going to get in a way? I don't think it is. You don't like. Let me tell you how politics worked. It's such a crazy. It's not, to the average person, it won't make sense. Because you could have something right now that's, like, you realize the governor of California

hooked up with his best friend's wife campaign manager. Yeah. And he's the governor of California. Yeah. You realize the governor of California got $24 billion to clean up homelessness and it increased by $36,000. It's crazy. It's crazy. So to me, politics is very weird.

Yeah. And these guys, they know you have to learn how to be Teflon. You're going to be in the tornado for the next two, three weeks. They're going to attack you nonstop. It's going to go away. And then you're going to come back. Americans move on. There's going to be new story cycle and da-da-da.

That's what happens. So do you think, that being said, I agree. Do you think with Mamdani's rise right now because he's climbing? Do you think them leaving and Como coming in, it'll be a close race? Yeah, it's going to be a close race. That's what we need. I think it's going to be a very close race with the involvement of one person. DJT.

That's it. Yeah. With that, Adam. I don't know. I'm actually with Mom Donnie on this. I think this stinks to high heaven. You know, Trump, what made a famous line, it's a rig system, it's a rig system, it's a rig system. This seems like a rigged system because in a democracy, you don't want to avert the will of the people.

You know, democracy, sometimes the politicians want to protect the people from the decisions that the people make. Sometimes you've got to let the people make some damn bad decisions. And that's what needs to happen. in New York City. So, you know, people in 2011, they were doing the Occupy Wall Street movement because they were pissed as hell as the big bank bailouts. And they had every right to think that way. Chimoth, the famous from the All In podcast, you know, when they bailed out the airlines, he said, let them fail. If you're making bad decisions and you're doing stock buybacks and you're not prepared for a Black Swan event or anything like that, then you should fail. New York City

is a failing city and you're going to try to avert the will of the people who want this socialist, communist, Islamist, let them have who they want. Let the boy watch, as they say. So, a democracy is only as strong as the wisdom of the people

and if the wisdom of the people in New York City want Mamdani, give him Mamdani. Stop trying to basically have Trump come in, Eric Adams, Cuomo. That seems like a rigged system. Now, I'm no Mamdani fan, but I'm a fan of democracy. Well, let me ask you a question,

Adam. This is, um, America isn't just some company like Boeing or whatever like that. You're talking about, and I know where you stand on this, is it, are you, like, he's not interfering. He's helping. Do you think him getting involved isn't trying to help from a, quote-unquote, or alleged communist, terrorist, sympathetic, whatever the hell the media is calling him, are you willing to go, hey, let them learn. And then he comes in, and then in Deerborn, you have freaking Arabic writing on freaking, like, and then it starts spreading. And then we get to a point where you're like, wait a minute, we shouldn't have let that one guy get in in. New York, because if it starts there, it's going to keep spreading.

Let me tell you, buddy, there's a lot of, there's a lot that you said that I agree with. And that's, these are, these are going to be conversations, Vinny, that we're going to be having every year for the next couple decades of do we want people who don't stand for typical American values running our government? I don't. And we're going to see them. You think, you think, Mom Dhani's the last. Oh, no.

Hell no. Communists to come in the Minneapolis and all the. Let me tell you. Get ready for more. There's a part of what Adam is saying is an actual good point, but... That's shocking. But the part you've got to be thinking about... You probably misspoke.

But the part you're probably thinking, you have to think about, this is politics. They're going to call for the favors. Very simple. Oh, no doubt. And they're going to do it on the left. They're going to do it on the right. They're going to do it everywhere. What do you think is going on?

California is going to be 48 to 4 on House of Representatives for the state. out of 52 House of Representatives in the state of California by November 4th if this gerrymandering new structure goes down 48's going to be on the left what kind of control you think they're going to have you know same with Texas what they did there they even crock it about to be fired

by November 4th so this is the political game but there's a guy every once in a while somebody's endorsement carries weight okay for a long time it used to be Obama Obama no longer carries weight his voice no longer carries the way they used to carry at all and it's not even close Trump's voice has just gotten bigger and bigger and bigger everybody wants his endorsement he gets involved left right and center things get done people move and i think there's one guy

that can do this for new york and he's got a heart for new york family parents dad all of that stuff you don't have to agree with it but that's probably what's going to end up happening I, listen, you know, I'm on the Trump team. I'm on the Trump train. I don't think Trump carries that much weight in New York City at this point. New York City, I get that they leaned towards Trump this time. He didn't win New York. He didn't win the state.

I don't think that he's helping the cause here. Because anyone who's Republican or independent is already voting against Mom Dani. You need to convince people in the Democratic Party to stop voting against their own interests and not vote for Mbda. None of those people are Trump guys. So from a macro perspective, from a federal perspective, presidential perspective, I think New York City is different. I think New York City hates Trump.

Yeah. I think New York City, there are people that hate Trump, but a lot less than what it was 10 years ago. Yeah, because they're waking up. Yeah. We're still seeing the reverberations of how woke New York City is now. He's optimistic on what he can do. And I think it's more than you think,

but I also understand what your point you're making, the fact that, you know, let them fail. Let the too big to fail happen. Here's my prediction. I'll give it to you in 10 seconds or less. Momdani gets elected. City turns to crap. They find in five years their next mayor Rudy Giuliani and they clean up that city because it needs to go to the depths of hell.

I think it'll be too late because I think... That's what they said in the 90s though. No, I think it'll be too late because when Democratic Socialists took over Detroit, what happened? It's too late. If that happens and billionaires leave, they're not coming back. Once the billionaires leave, King Griffin's not going back to Chicago. Rest in peace, New York City is what you're saying. That's what I'm saying. If this happens, it's going to be...

What a shame. It's going to be catastrophic and they'll feel it. Okay, let's go to next door here. Next story I want to go to is Google ruling show antitrust tools, struggle to keep up with tech markets. This is a Wall Street Journal story. Let me get to this one here with Google. Boom, there we go.

A U.S. District Judge, Amit, M. ruling on Tuesday, found alphabets Google guilty of illegally monopolizing the online search market, but imposed modest penalties requiring Google to share some search data with competitors and barring exclusive contracts for its search engine, Chrome, Google Assistant and Gemini app while rejecting the Justice Department's push for divestiture of Chrome for Android. The decision following a five-year legal battle starting in 2020 allows Google to maintain It's roughly $20 billion annual payment to Apple for default search status on iPhones with meta-noting, cutting off payments from Google almost certainly will impose substantial in some cases,

crippling downstream harms to the distribution partner related to markets and consumers, which counsels against a broad payment ban. Tom, your thoughts on this. So what's very, very interesting to me is what you just said. Apple is getting $20 billion a year from Google. It's a membership fee. Yeah. And so.

Literally. And by the way, it's a lot of people doing that. Jeez. Yep. And so they're paying Apple to get preferential treatment on iPhone, iPhone markets, the app store. And so what we're seeing here is that there's kind of a pretzel, right? Look at Venezuela. What kind of airplanes flew over our ship? Ours are really old ones that were sold to Venezuela, but that was our old, old airplanes still flying. that could have ended up in the water if Venezuela wasn't careful. But it shows you the pretzel, right?

The pretzel that's in and the Wall Street Journal headline was remarkably correct. It shows antitrust tools struggle to keep up at the tech markets. What they're trying to keep up with is like Apple's like, well, if Google's a monopoly on this, yeah, well, we're kind of a monopoly in other

ways too. Maybe we don't yell too loud and we just keep the $20 billion coming from from Google. I think it's simple as that because it is so hard now to break them up. For a year,

for a year it's been talking about that Chrome would be spun out to somebody else. And we've covered on this podcast, remember Pat,

we will cover deals like between companies and Chrome is also going to be part of it. And this other company over here was looking at that and it's like, oh, there's the deal

coming together. But guess what? At the end of the day, somehow the judge, now why did the judge think that? Cutting off payments from Google will impose substantial, some cases, crippling downstream harms distribution partners.

Who said that? The distribution partners. You can't let this happen. It'll cause crippling downstream harm to me. So he said, okay, I guess we'll, I'll say, this is what we'll do. You can't do this. You can't do this, but you're going to maintain your monopoly in search ads. And guess what that means?

That means when Apple gets charged over, you know, a lot of people upset about this 30% Vig that they put across everybody, and they say, That's monopolistic. So when Apple's in court, guess who they're going to expect to be whispering on the other side? What's that? What's that? Google. Yeah, Google.

So what's the bottom line, Tom? The bottom line is it's like a pretzel of relationships here where suddenly the Titans, and you've got Google, Microsoft, and Apple are all three very, very large that are vulnerable from this type of investigations, legislations, by the Department of Commerce and Federal Trade Commission. And they're all, I think, at the end of the day, going to kind of, to help each other because this comment that came from the judge didn't come out of his own deliberations. That came out of the mouth of a distribution partner. By the way, so it's going to be interesting what this does to open it up for others.

You know, and I know a few months ago, Tom, if I'm not mistaken, whether it was FTC, somebody was trying to force them to sell Chrome. Who offered money for Chrome about two, three months ago? Somebody offered $60 billion to buy Chrome. Who was the company that offered $60 billion? It was like one of those AI companies. Was it perplexity? Who offered... I think that's right.

Okay, perplexity offered $34.5 billion to buy Chrome. And they did this with a public announcement ahead of the hearing. So they were wanting the U.S. Department Justice antitrust to know that, hey, I know you guys are going through Google. If you really want to break them apart with Monopoly, we got an offer here for you. And it's actually a great move. They did it on purpose. Well, when we were dealing with this property and was trying to buy this property, I was speaking to the DOJ and the FBI regularly on a weekly basis.

And I told him, I said, if you guys want to wait till he gets charged to sell the property or when can you sell it? And I made an offer before the challenge, the scandal that was taking place. Apparently the owner had some business relationships with Biden's brother or some like that. He was going away for something here. It was actually a big scandal. And then eventually we made the offer And then the DOJ realized that we're interested

And then later on they brought us in As one of the leading what he call it bidders for the auction And then we ended up picking up the property By the way, this offer wasn't made to Google It was but it was really meant to be in the ear of the judge That's right So that Google would say Chrome is so expensive Who on earth would buy it?

Well hang on a second These perplexity guys are in the parking line With $34 billion dollars Cash money $34.5 billion dollars You better believe Google knows who their enemy is now. Oh, yeah. They know who they're targeting.

Adam, thoughts. Well, in an unrelated note, they announced that Trump is going to be hosting all the big tech pros at the newly renovated Rose Garden at the White House. So everyone you're talking about is going to be in the same room in D.C. So the Google Boys will be there. Mark Zuckerberg is going to be there. Tim Cook from Apple is going to be there. Bill Gates is going to be there. They're there yesterday.

They're there yesterday. The Palantir guys, Sam Altman, Jeff Bezos. I think his team is going to be there from Blue Origin, allegedly. You know who's conveniently left off this list? Oh, my God. Elon? Elon Musk is not invited to the big tech bro conference. Now, I think he has his, you know, consiglary, David Sachs.

I think they're pretty tight, right? Those guys hang out. But this is reminiscent of when Biden conveniently left Elon Musk off the big EV Summit, Green Summit and the White House in, I think, 2022. And that pretty much backfired on Biden's behalf. But wait a minute. Interesting to see here. I just verified this.

Elon Musk tweeted that he was invited. Really? Couldn't attend. Yeah. So a big difference with Biden. Couldn't attend? But with difference with Biden, Biden didn't invite. Correct.

And he said it. But here he tweeted and says, I was invited, but I wasn't able to attend, that a representative would attend on his being. have. So the White House did confirm that his company had been invited and would be represented, but it wasn't clear of Musk was supposed to be himself. And I'm glad that you found that. Let's read into this little bit. But under rule 16-G, he can't say he was invited. Exactly. If all the big boys are going to be there, you know, the Bezos of the world, the Zucks of the world, the Google boys, what does Elon have going on conveniently that day that he can't make

this big meeting. Clearly there's still some bad blood between Trump and Elon. For sure, but it's important to know that he was invited. It's a big difference. I don't think Trump is afraid of inviting or not inviting for the guy to be there at a tech meeting that he's having because he knows

that now he would be just like Biden if he didn't invite him. I just want to make sure to clarify that. Out of all those names that I mentioned, who does Elon Musk have the most beef with? Who does he have most beef with? Yeah, out of all the tech rooms. I have no idea who he has Doesn't he have major beef with Sam Altman?

Yes, beef with a lot. Elon has beef with a lot of people. Yeah, but who is it the most? He may have beef with every one of those guys. You know the Google? Certainly Gates. Yeah, he's got people a lot of money. What was the Google story?

There was like a wife involved? Yeah, go ahead. Speaking of Elon, because Value Taming, I just saw that we posted a Tesla offers unprecedented $1 trillion pay package to must. A trillion dollars they just offered him. I told you. He'll be a trillionaire with an 18 to 20, 18 to 20, 18 to 20,

I was right here and I was like, I agree. Guys, I don't know. Like I say all the time, a trillion dollars ain't one it used to be, guys. How are you supposed to? You know what? How are you supposed to pay in New York City? What the cost of living? Let me tell you what you may want to consider doing.

You can buy Central America. What you may want to consider doing is one of the highest paying jobs right now, allegedly, is planting trees. Oh, yeah, that's right. There's this guy named Kauai Leonard. It's French? Yeah, he's actually got massive hands. I think he picked up the French name

when he played for a city called Toronto Raptors and then he played for San Antonio and then when he went to Clippers there's a guy who was the former CEO of the Microsoft this guy is worth a couple hundred billion dollars on any given day he's worth between $150 to $200 billion

he decides to find a way to pay Kauai Leonard allegedly more money than the contract to be able to bring him in So they started a company. This guy that found out about this who reported on us is a, I think it's just a regular independent journalist, Pablo Toro, who found out that the shell endorsement deal,

they started a shell company that is a tree planting company. That's a joke. In the contract, it is required to pay KL1 and KL2. I'm sorry, KL2, who is KL? Kauai Leonard to inspire $7 million a year for four years, okay, is what the contract was. And this is how he paid them the money, okay, $7 million. Now, Rob, if he can find it, Balmer was interviewed to address this because this is, he was interviewed to address this. And his answer is actually, he should run for office, the way he gives the answer.

So that's the fact of a way for them to get more money, to avoid the salary cap, create a fake money, to allegedly funnel money, fake company to allegedly funnel, that's the one right there, Rob. He's been asked about it, and Tom, watch what he said here. Go ahead. Let's talk to the fan. We signed that deal with Kauai before any of this, before any of this, before Kauai even knows these people. We've signed our deal. That's high integrity. We made our deal with aspiration.

Literally, I had no control over the company. Literally, even when I invested, I think there was somebody put in six times as much money as I did. No control. And that's okay. The average fan should understand that. And they went off and made a deal. I don't know what the deal is.

I know what the reports are with the speculation. I don't know what the deal is or was. And frankly, I can't even tell you whether it's this much different, that much different, or not different at all from some of the other endorsement contracts that athletes do. In terms of amount, I don't know. I actually don't know the amounts of most endorsement deals. But when you look at Forbes magazine and they talk about the highest paid athletes, many of those top athletes, as Kauai was a top athlete, is a top athlete, you know, you read those things and they say they make up more off endorsements than they do their, you know, very high. large salaries. So I don't know what to expect, but I think the

average fan may not either but we did things by the book, and I don't know what those deals should look like. Allegedly he... Nor do I know what this one looked like specifically. Rob, can you stop? Allegedly he invested $50 million into it, okay? And there was a, uh, the co-founder

a guy named Joe Sandberg of aspiration who was has pleaded guilty of fraud charges for defrauding investors of over $248 million. Rob, can you pull this guy up? $248 million.

Joe Sandberg, without a D. Like Ryan Sandberg, take the D out for Sandberg. There you go. Zoom in. Samberg arrested March of 2025 on charge of defrauding investors for $145 million. On August 2025, Department of Justice announced that Sanberg

has agreed plea guilty to defrauding multiple investors lenders apart to 248. And Balmer put 50 into this. So Balmer may be right, okay, on what happened here. Who knows what was going to go here? But Tom, what else do you know about the story? Well, I know what I heard, and what I heard there was Steve Balmer saying, I had no control over the company.

We did it by the book. And when you hear those two things, it tends to make you wonder about, okay, what's the third leg of the stool here, Steve? Did you have any idea that there was a lot? another deal out there. Just answer that question. Okay, you did your deal by the book. You did it before this one happened. You had no control over this company. All right, you've got your deniability. You're clean. It's called keeping yourself clean. You're clean. But did you have any idea this was happening? It harkens back to Eddie de Bartolo, who had the San Francisco 49ers and

De Bartolo. De Bartolo. The, you know, half, let me tell you, half. Have a little respect for the De Bartleville family here. Come out. Hey, half of the salary cap rules supposedly were drafted as a result of NFL investigations into De Bartolo's alternative methods of payments. After they won a Super Bowl, he brought everybody to Hawaii and gave them, like, ridiculously expensive Rolex watches. Over a certain level, you're supposed to claim that. There was also that he supposedly arranged them to invest in companies. that had like mini malls or something. I don't remember the specific facts,

but the NFL dug into it and says, how are players getting paid by a company that makes malls that he barely invests anything in? They're getting these dividends or something. And it was this wonderful chap who came out of New Orleans with a lot of allegations of ties to gambling, whatever. But he tried to find ways to keep his team together and to pay the players more.

And half of the salary cap rules came out of that. And so my question is, why can't Steve Balmer just say, I had no idea about this. I specifically, I've never had any conversations with somebody. I didn't know what was coming, planned. I was no part of it. I didn't even talk to these people. Say that when you also say, we did the contract by the book. Okay, you're clean.

I have no control over the company I invested in. Okay, dude, you're clean. It's one thing to stay clean. It's another thing to absolutely come out and say, you know, there was nothing here. And you had other NBA owners who know the economics of these were coming out and saying, how the hell did the Clippers get Kauai Leonard under that deal?

It says, that's not the going rate. You had other owners that were speaking out and whispering to the NBA saying, dude, all right, you want to live in L.A. But you got all these taxes in California. How did they do this? That's a fair question if you're another owner. Yeah, let me tell you, this reminds me of the old,

Jerry Tarkany on UNLV where he would fight at U.S. He would fight NCW say, look, we go by the rules. We go by the rules. We go by the rules. And there were guys, Vinny,

they would say, all right, so, because the mob was in Vegas. Yeah, of course. It was, I want you to work valet from 6 o'clock to 8 o'clock. A car is going to show up. A black, you know, Cadillac is going to show.

When it does, you take the keys. They're going to give you a tip. great you take the car go park it you get a hundred thousand dollar tip wow and it's like look

we didn't do it you got a tip what they follow very generous you want me to do and they let them keep the car just a nice guy but this is going

to a whole different level with what do you call it to trying to get caught by the way you know what the reality of it is oh my God did it backfire

okay how many Rob Rob can you pull up how many years How many years has Kauai Leonard been with the Clippers? I mean, Pat, as a local NBA resident, I can tell you that he signed there in 2020 after he won the championship in 2019. You as a casual basketball fan should know that.

You're off. How many total regular season games has he played? You said what you did he show up? He used to get a lot of owies. He's got one leg at this point. Stop. Get your NBA facts together, man. You claim you know NBA. You know nothing about the NBA.

I don't know if you've ever even watched it. It's like an amateur. Okay, watch this. Watch this, Tom. You ready? So during the seven years, okay? He's been there since 2019, six seasons full that he's been there. You ready?

So let's do the math. He was MVP, each season is how many? Each season is 82 times six. 492. Out of 492 regular season games, Vinny, he's played only 266. So he's played half the time. Half the time. So he's better than Zion's Williamson.

He's played 266 out of 492. So guess what the market did? These guys were supposed to win multiple championships. Nothing happened. Stacked, baby. Nothing happened. Nothing happened with these guys. Go ahead.

Give us your expertise in badminton. This is what is called a bad ROI for your business owners out there and you investors out there. You think you're going to get a sweetheart deal, whatever happened, follow the money with what I would call probably the most fun, richest owner in the NBA, Steve Ballmer. He is. Intrapreneur. He basically makes more Cuban look like a broke casual fan.

But he recruited Kauai and they've had nothing to show from it. Paul George was supposed to be their second in command. He's gone. Nothing going on here. They've done nothing. You know, you got the Lakers. The year that he showed up to L.A., the Lakers won the championship in the bubble. They beat

my heat. So you got the Lakers hanging championship banners, meanwhile the clippers are just like hanging their heads in shame because they've done nothing. Now, they're a major improvement since the racist. Don't give me NBA analysis.

Tell me about the story of. This guy's giving us an analysis. Our audience doesn't want your analysis. They want to know what you think about. They're going to get what I give them. I'll tell you that much. All right. Let me get the next story.

Anyway, the point is this. This was a shrewd business move that has backfired because they've done nothing. It's like recruiting someone to your company that you think is going to change. change the game. What's actually going to happen? And you end up losing money. Anything? Well, the NBA...

Could they lose like three draft picks for the next three years? I'm telling you right now. A bunch of trees aren't going to be planted. The NBA... The NBA does things two ways. Loud and publicly or quiet and privately. There's usually nothing in the middle. Nothing in the middle. That's a good point.

It's like, you know, go study why Jordan played baseball for two years. And then go look at big things where they're jumping at the microphone and sending a half-million dollar fine to Mark Cuban because what he said about the refs last night and they're just like on fire. Yeah, that's why they have. I think this is going to be, I think this is going to be their big and they're going to find a connection back to the team or the agent somehow, or is there going to be something quiet below the surface that says, listen, I know you guys did this. Anything else happens again? You're going to have no draft picks till the return of Christ. I understand. Yeah, I think something could happen here. But let me get to the next story.

Folks, if you're living in Florida and you want to be able to have the choice of what vaccines to give to your kids, you officially have it. Florida Surgeon General announces planned to end vaccine mandates in schools. And I want you to hear the applause and how long it lasts when he announces that this is what's happening in the state of Florida. If you don't recognize him, he was the guy during COVID, while everybody else was being aggressive and all this other. stuff. They're like, no, no, we're going to keep it open. And it was kept open. They took a lot of different positions and they got a lot of heat and they ended up being right. Rob played a clip. But what I'm most excited about is an announcement that we're going to make, that we're making now, which is that the Florida Department of Health, in partnership with the governor,

is going to be working to end all vaccine mandates. for the lot all of them all of them for how long all of them every last one of them yeah look how long you're clapping oh I'm clapping who's the

who's the audience Floridian they're all standing up to the shadows every last how many people can go every last one how many people can go all of them maybe a little less Wow, they're not stopping. No, they're not stopping.

Look at the reflection. They were all standing up to. Yeah, so Florida announces that, by the way, the Santis, Rob, I don't know if you have the clip of the Santis. During the joint press conference, there's a clip of him as well. If you have it, you could find it. If not, I'll just read it. He added, Joseph added, Joseph added, every last one of them is wrong and drips with disdain and slavery. Who am I as a government or anyone else?

tell you what you should put in your body. I don't have that right. Your body is a gift from God. DeSantis stressed that informed consent is essential stating information given to individuals where they can then make an informed decision should be the bedrock of how we function as a society. Check this out. We've lived. We've had two kids in California, one in Texas, one in Florida.

In California, there was none of these, what do you call it? Picking and choose in, your kid can't go to our school. Okay, just this didn't exist. When we moved to Texas, we thought Texas would have religion exemption. Our kids were going to a Christian school. So you would think if there's any state that you would have exemption for religious exemption, it'd be state of Texas and a Christian school. They didn't.

This is the time we're at 11 o'clock at night. I text Bobby and we get on a call. He calls everybody for 45 minutes and we find out we can't do nothing about it. We come to Florida. Brooklyn is born here. Center's born in Texas. We come to Florida. Jen says, babe, I went to the doctor.

He asked me, what vaccines do you want him to take, her to take? She says, we're choosing not to take this and this, and we're going to wait for this. Okay, great. No problem. Move on. I said, that's all he said? That's all he said. Seriously?

Yeah. No joke. Yeah. Great. Now it's anything and everything based on what you want to do. Tom, how important is this for families? This is really important. and I find it shocking that the party of my body, my choice,

was telling all of us that we had to do things during COVID. So what happened to that, Dems, you know, my body, my choice. I think this puts power of people. There's more research out there than there has ever been. You don't have to agree with what happened with Bobby Kennedy yesterday, RFK Jr., specifically at the Senate hearings. You don't have to agree with either side to say, I as a parent want to make the choice.

I want the choice here about what I do with my kid. This is very important for the basis of freedom. You have to do it. And by the way, if you take a look at these things, there's a lot of research and there's a lot of correlation out there. You know, you can't make these direct correlations saying, you know, if you smoke for 20 years, you get lung cancer. Because believe it or not, some people that smoke for 20 years don't get lung cancer.

But you can say there's a huge correlation. And people are saying and pushing reports that say, look, when it really comes down, we're going to have to get answers of why we have so many kids with autism. And we're going to get back into this vaccine thing and think that some of them, not all of them, but some of them are going to have correlation effects. So I think the freedom for the parents to choose is critical. And I think this is fantastic. And by the way, the state of Florida, what did they specifically say, Vinny, about, you know, know, COVID. They say, you know, if you want to go to the beach, UV is a hell of a killer of viruses and bacteria. Weird. And guess what? The largest crater of UV in the known universe is the sun.

So it's like if you want to go out on the beach, you know, you don't need to get together in a mob and party. But if you're going out there by yourself with your family or whatever and a little bit of spacing, good grief. The sun was good for you. It turns out they were correct. So I think this is a state of Florida in the name of freedom and choice is doing the right thing. And I love the fact that it's the, you know, basically the Surgeon General of Florida basically coming up and saying, hey, we're going to give you the freedom and we're not doing it. I mean, this is more leadership from Ron DeSantis, who I think is a great governor. I think when you close the books from Ron DeSanis, I hope that there's not too much emphasis

on the way he went through the presidential election last year. There's got to be a chapter on it, Pat. But you look at all the other ways that he has led from during COVID to the natural disasters, to the people that are on the team up there, to this decision here. I'm really happy to be in a state where he's governor. Yeah, there's no question about it. I call him the best governor out of all the 50 states. I don't even think anybody comes close to it.

He's a guy that gets done. Not Newsome? No, that's for you. Okay. It's my guy. We're talking solving disasters. The Santos is not creating him. Santos is truly the best governor we have in America, hands down.

I don't think anybody comes close to the guy. Every time you're there as a family guy, as a guy that wants to be able to control the decisions for your kids, these guys just keep making best decisions over and over again when it comes down to these types of choices. I love it. And thank God and thank you for thinking about when I found you, you were here already. So that solved my get out of California and get out of that freaking nonsense from COVID. yesterday when RFK was on in front of Congress. One of the best ones was Senator Roger Marshall from Kansas.

Licensed OBGYN, by the way. He said on day number one, they get their first jab, hepatitis B vaccine. By the time they're 18 months, they have 18 jabs. By the time they get to be able to vote, they have 76 jabs in the... Is this it? This is the clip.

Oh, my God. Play this clip rock. Yeah, he's legit. It's very loud. Is transparency? And I think when I hear you talk about transparency, I think part of that is sharing what you know, what the CDC knows with parents so that they can make decisions. Behind me, yeah, I know it's going to be hard to see from there. I can barely read it.

This is the current CDC recommendations for vaccines for children. On day number one, they get their first jab a hepatitis vaccine. By the time they're 18 months, they've had 18 jabs. By the time they get to be able to vote, they have 76 japs. Geez, jeez. Now, when we talk, when I listen, what I hear you say is that, look, vaccines are drugs. We need a measured response and a measured, when do we use this? It's interesting that the United States has put age 65 and older for a COVID vaccine.

UK has chosen 75 and France 80. Obviously, sciences disagree exactly when that should or shouldn't be. No, hepatitis B vaccine, it makes no sense to me. I've only delivered 5,000 babies, but we do an hepatitis test on every mom. By the time she delivers that baby, I know her pretty well. And if she doesn't have any risk factors, if she's not an IV drug abuser, if she's in a stable monogamous relationship, nobody at home has hepatitis. I don't know, I don't see the benefit myself in that hepatitis vaccine. Everyone's eligible for it.

Everyone can get it. And my pediatricians always agree with me. And no, I'm not saying if you don't know the hepatitis status of that patient, they shouldn't get it. I'm not saying if this person's had no prenatal kid. That puts them at risk for hepatitis. Can you just speak a little bit when you talk about transparency? And by the way, what a, Rob, thank you, Rob.

He, like, think about that. And I mean, guys, it's big business. It's big pharma. We know we talk about a lot. That's 76 jabs. That's, I don't know how many companies are involved. That's money going to every child out for their entire life. Boom, boom, boom, boom.

Money, money, money, money. And RFK bad out of all the hire. besides Marco Rubio, who I think is doing a great job, RFK, man, he came in there and all the people that are getting money from Big Pharma and all the donors yelling, Elizabeth Warren, Matt, and he's actually giving stats and facts about

he's like, why is myocarditis up? Why are people dying? Like, what is causing all this? What is causing all this autism? And they're just furious. It was literally RFK against Big Pharma. That's what that was. Like Big Pharma's pit bulls,

And I'm so freaking proud of all the choices. I think RFK is one of my favorite ones in the administration. Yeah, and by the way, Rob, do you have some of the clip? This is the exchange with Elizabeth Warren that things got heat. By the way, after a certain point, it's hard to listen to this. It's actually hard to listen to that. But let's watch which one would you like to start off with, Rob. I think Elizabeth Warren's go with that one.

Go for it. You're going like this. And that is you promised that you would not take away vaccines from anyone who wanted them. You just changed the class. of the COVID vaccine. I'm not taking them away from people, Senator. It takes it away if you can't get it from your pharmacy. Well, most Americans are going to be able to get it from their pharmacy for free.

Most Americans will be able to get it from their pharmacy free. The question is, everyone who wants it. That was your promise. I never promised that I was going to recommend products with which there is no indication. When you said, And I know you've taken $855,000 from pharmaceutical companies, Senator. Did you hold up a big sign saying that you were lying when you said that because you are the one who said you would not take them away? Now, Senator, I'm not taking them away from that.

Secretary, you want me to indicate a product for which there is no clinical data? That's the question. Is that what you want? Secretary Kennedy, you said you wouldn't, and now you did. I'm not taking them away. Everybody can get access to them. She's a pharma pawn. Oh, and he said it.

He said, you took $855,000 from the pharma. Yeah. And she didn't even pause to address it. It's just like, you know, skip right by it. Do you think the big pharma, like people in the company, let's say it's Pfizer. Do you think when they know this hearing is coming, they talk to her and they say, hey, say X, Y, and Z and do this? Or does she already have her marching orders, Tom? Like, she should already know that she's going to fight for them, or do they give her, like, some coaching?

Well, Marching orders. Is this total 2024 pharma money to Elizabeth Warren? I looked it up this morning so we could look at it right now. I brought some receipts. $388 million in 2024. And look at 23 and 22. When the COVID vaccine was, the debate was shifting as to maybe the stuff wasn't right. Maybe the stuff that's causing heart failure.

Maybe this thing's starting other thing. $388 million food in. And ladies and gentlemen, you have pharmaceutical research manufacturer, lobbying group, pharmaceutical care management, so deep, lobbying group, Amgen, company number one, 11.7 million. Roche, company number two, Merck and Pfizer vaccine makers, 9.1 million, 9.1 million, right together. There they are, folks.

And now let's go look over at those who received the money, Rob. We have another link of the people that have actually received the money. There is a separate link. Oh, okay, hang on. Why he's looking for that? And basically, one of the guys, Bennett, that was coming unglued, received very little farm of money last year, but over the course of his campaigns, he was like number one. Wow.

And so, come on. And Elizabeth Warren, and you found the tweet where the guy had dug up open secrets. And this is Mike. guys that we know. Mike Benz posted a photo. Did you send that to Rob? I sent it to Rob. Rob with the red arrow. Yeah, I sent it to Rob. This is, Mike Benz posted this and it's

Big Pharma paid what he's claiming or what this that's from Open Secrets. Here we go. Look how much money they gave Elizabeth Warren. Now let's look at it, not just everybody on the lobbying, Pat. Now let's go look at who got it. Yep. Bernie Sanders. Elizabeth Warren.

Wow. Tim Cain. Weird. And did you see Bernie Sanders was sitting right next to her. And you know what the trouble thing is, Tom? And R.K was... Are they mostly Democrats here is what I'm seeing? Yeah. No. I mean, I still think they all take it. No, no. Raphael Warnock, George. No, he's definitely a Democrat. Warnock, yeah, for sure. But you know what the problem is, Tom? Besides this, I don't, I actually don't think this is a left or right thing. I think everybody takes money. I don't want to play to say... But you know what the point... I know where you would go out. I'm saying on that list. No, you're

right. But trust me. This is everybody. Yeah. Oh, they're all taking... Oh, bro. They're all This is just last year, last year, 23 and 224. This makes A-PAC look like a small checking account. Yep. What Big Pharma... Can you put up how much Big Farmer gave a lobby in last year, Rob? They're number one. Do you know by how much?

Let's just kind of take a look at this. Was it $400? $388.388 million. He just showed on the chart. Number one. Of course. Number one above every... I think insurance is number seven at $117.

million. We just looked at this yesterday, Rob, with Dr. Peter Gochette. 388. They call it big pharma for a reason. Yeah. But I tell you, man, this whole time, I thought that. If they stopped the advertisement and they changed the game with that on the advertisement side where you can't advertise no more, only two countries, that's in New Zealand, that's the kind of stuff that RFK Jr. is going to need the type of security. that only a few people have.

If he prevents companies from advertising, CNN's out of business. Yep. Wow. Fox is hurting too, right? Mainstream media companies that are taking all that money, they're going to be like, what are you talking about?

Yep. It's catastrophic. So imagine some of the donors that supported Trump, they're like, hey, listen, that guy right there talking about no longer allow us to advertise, we're not happy with that.

You better believe Trump's camp is getting that call. Oh, for sure. And by the way, the sports leagues get big checks from ESPN, who is able to write that check because of all the advertising dollars. So if pharma is off advertising, they say that basically the salary cap,

the thing I read, Pat, goes down 30%. Soury caps have to go down in sports 30%, because without pharma, ESPN can't write the billion dollar check. I know, I know. So to me, I'm glad he's there. Adam, your thoughts on this whole thing here. Well, I'm glad that you showed the numbers here,

because if you listen to the people on X, it would lead you to believe that APEC runs our government. But the reality is, Big Pharma, I don't know if they run our government, but they certainly own our bodies. They said, how many vaccines is the average kid? 76, before you're 18.

So you got, you know, zombie kids walking out there. And it's not like Big Pharma would ever try to monetize our bodies or anything like that. We didn't learn that during COVID when Pfizer and J&J and the rest of the crew made gazillions. So. Or turn the other way where you become obese and then so you diabetes drugs for the rest of your life.

The biggest problem I have is that vaccines have been labeled or vilified as being bad. No, mandates are what's bad. Not giving somebody a choice is what's bad. You know, Florida, ironically, they're allowing you to have a choice when it comes to vaccines, but it has one of the lowest, my body, my choice, abortion rulings, six weeks, which is a draconian, in my opinion. But if you look at what America is regarding vaccines, this is basically an 80, issue that has shifted over the last few years.

80% of America believes in vaccines. 80% of Floridians believes in vaccines. But we've seen a clear partisan divide since COVID and the vaccine mandates where it's closer to 50-50 on Republican side of things. But let's not pretend that eradicating smallpox wasn't a good thing or making sure that kids don't have polio isn't a good thing. You know, there used to be millions of deaths from these types of things. now there's next to nothing.

So choice is a good thing, but let's not vilify vaccines as if they're all bad. The debate is forcing on Americans, number one. And then the other half of the debate is we all know what happened with the COVID vaccines. They didn't go through the extended trials at all the other vaccines. It's called Operation Warp Speed, Tom. Don't go there. But you want to know something deeper, though? Like, by the way, the, and it's not just Big Pharma.

Like, I mean, it is Big Pharma. Immediately forgot about that. But look at the people that are aligned in these, like, look at, look at what some of the CDC people have. Like, when I take, like, Trump and RFK mainly, they're not battling just politics. These are some disgusting, I believe, demonic forces that are kind of, like, behind it. And, you know, the Big Farmers Cash Cow is on the line. Like, look at, you guys, this guy just quit, Pat. Do you see this?

Dr. Demetri. Yeah. Descascalacus, whatever. He's a self-proclaimed Satanist with a bondage fetish who he thinks calling women mothers is outdated and he wants six-month-old babies injected on government. This guy... And who is this guy?

This guy was a top dog at the CDC. A big guy. Adam, you want that guy in charge of telling you what's going to go on your body or not? I need more information on this guy. That's the doctor. He doesn't seem like I want to take advice from him. He just quit because... A Satanist?

Because they refused to bow to... down to the agenda. And he stormed down. He claims science is under attack, and he's smearing RFK. He's crying that Kennedy might delay the hepatitis B vaccine at birth, which I agreed should be done. And then Rand Paul actually came up at and he said, and I quote,

no medical reason, there's no medical reason to give newborns hepatitis B vaccine if the mother is not infected. All mothers who deliver in a hospital are tested. This scientist's fetish, he's talking about this doctor, for vaccines, is not supported by the data. So

What would make that guy want to keep pushing and keep yelling and quit? Why? Adam, why would he do it? To me, my opinion, he's getting paid by somebody to tell him to say what he's saying. Benny, all I know is one thing. What? Trust the science. Yeah, well, that guy, I don't want, I don't want that guy telling me what to put on my kid.

Big pharma. Elizabeth Warren allegedly is on her 400th booster this week. Yeah, she's taking probably going right now. By the way, good for Bobby, RFK Jr., for doing what he's doing. And we hope he goes all the way through with. what he's challenging the other side to do. Now let's go to another person. Guys, when you get an invitation by dignitary,

what should you say? You should say, thank you, I'm on my way, let's have a meeting. But not if your name is Zelensky. Zelensky got an invitation for a man named Putin. Putin invites Zelensky to Moscow for supposed peace talks. This guy's trying to have a peace talk.

And Putin on Wednesday claimed he never refused a meeting with Zelensky and invited him to Moscow, according to Russian state-owned news outlet, Tass. If Zelensky is ready for a meeting, let him come to Moscow, Putin said. Is this it, Rob? It is. It's in Russian, but there are subtitles. I'll translate. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.

If he was well prepared, and it will lead to some positive results. Now will ask me, if it will be possible, hospital to reign such a meeting, I said yes. In the end, Zelensky is ready, he can come to Moscow. Good. Well, thank you, Putin.

That's great. So let me finish this thing, what happens there. But Zelensky, he's got different. He's not, I don't know, this is Zelensky. Go for it. American partners told us that Putin invited me to Moscow. You know what I think?

When you don't want to have a meeting, So what do you have to do? Well, you have to invite me to Moscow. That's why I think Russia started to talk about meeting. That's not a bad thing. But right now we do not see any wish on their part to stop this war, to finish this war. And a meeting...

Would you go? Would you go, Tom, if you're Zelensky? Adam, would you go? Are you crazy? This is like a wolf inviting a sheep to dinner and being like, yeah, come to dinner. You're on the menu for dinner. Hold on. Hold on for a second.

There's no chance that Zelensky is showing up to Moscow. If Trump was with them. You have Russian autocrats or you have Russian rule 16C of the UN code at him. Jumping out of windows just for fun. What do you think they're going to do to Zelensky? They are not going to assassinate Zolnski. Putin is trolling Zolnski. Putin is trolling Trump at this point. Hold on.

Do you, do you notice how he called him Donald? He didn't call him Mr. President. He didn't call him President Trump. He said Donald, they're boys. Think about this. Don't look at the contrast. You're looking that as like a homie thing? No, well, I mean...

I look at that as like a sign of disrespect. No, they're homies, bro. He called him Vladimir the other day. Listen, they're homeless. Vladimir Pooen is a gangster, okay? Plain and simple. Are you saying gangster in a good way or a... No, I mean, he's a...

Adam, you make it like you want me to love him. No, you're acting like I love him. No, but a lot of people do like... do love him. Vladimir Poon is a gangster. Guess who the other guy is? A ballerina dancing, shaking actor. Stand up when you do that dance. I can't stand up when you do that dance. But there's

a difference and to be honest, if Trump is there, they're not going to assassinate. Bro, you know what that would do? I get it. They're at war. What are they going to do? Have more war? What are they going to do? What are they going to do? What are they going to go fat more?

No, no, no, no. I think they will. They want to kill them. Zilinski shows of a Moscow. Guys, guys, guys. He's not leaving Moscow. Let's make this more rational. If you're Zelensky, all Zelensky has to say is, okay, tell you what, McCrone will come with me. I will come talk to you. McCrone will join me.

We'll fly in the morning. Oh, McCrull is going to intimidate. No, no, no, no, no, no. Now you're bringing to proceed. Briseet's going to show me. Oh, my God, I want to see. I want to hear Tom's point. No, no, no.

Listen, if Zelisky's worried, he only needs to bring one person, bring Vanderland from the EU. you bring McCrone, whatever. Rather bring in Vanderley-Silva. And then say, look, we'll fly in the morning. We'll have lunch. We'll have our talk in the afternoon, then we'll leave. I'm not eating none of a night.

I'm not eating none of the food. Okay, you don't have to eat. You bring your own food. You've won't caviots? No, no, no, no, no. Look, mercury poisoning. Putin is not going to assassinate Zelensky. It's like Hamas inviting BB for lunch.

Yeah, just come on in. No, it's not. You know it's not. You know it's not. You're a tunnel layer. Now you're doing, now you're doing stand-up. So you wouldn't do. Well, that's not good.

But so you wouldn't do. There's one person at this table we don't want doing comedy. Zelensky calls me, Mr. President. Do you think it's safe for me to go? Go ahead and go. Take Vanderlain with you. Take Macron with you. Go in there, fly in, meet with them for four hours, have your talks, and leave.

And said, but I think you can make some progress here. It says, would you do it, that? If you're Zelensky. But it's a tough answer. Let me explain to why it's a tough answer. The reason why it's a tough answer is because if I'm Zelensky, I wouldn't have behaved the way I did at the White House, and I wouldn't have, you know, done what he did. So if it's me doing the way I know I would have negotiated and managed the relationships,

diplomacy, I would have gone. No problem. I'm going. And we'd have the meeting because I believe it shows fearlessness to me. It shows an element of, what do you want me to do? You want me to come here and everybody told me not to do it? I'm still coming to you. It actually shows an element of what Trump did when he was on CNN every day in 2015, 2016. You know what happened at the end? Do you know what happened at the end? So here's what happened. Every time CNN invited him, he went every single time.

And in the last three months of the election, they realized the Clinton camp is like, stop allowing him to come. You're helping him. You're helping him. So then they stopped taking him. But Trump's like, yeah, what do you want to talk about? Go ahead. Ask me.

What do you want to talk about? He's showing up, showing up, showing up. So he was like, man, versus Obama's like, no, I'm not going to hear. Obama's done one Bill O'Reilly interview and one Bill Maher. He's been on Bill Maher and O'Reilly one time. Tell me how many times Trump's done 60 minutes, CNN, Fox, MSNBC, how many times? Every time. So I don't know.

If I'm that, I'm showing up. But again, it's a very – remember, Trump went to North Korea. Humberto's right. I love that. Trump went to North Korea. He walked on to North Korea. And Shuggana slap the shoulder a little bit. But who gets powered there?

Does that make Kim Jong Un look good? It makes Trump look at fantastic. Like, I'm not afraid. Let's go. Let's go. Exactly. So I think there's an element of that happening, but I also think Putin's playing games. Of course.

Which, which I'm not going to. Would you eat anything? Would you eat anything at that meeting? I'm going to be on the longest, what do you call it? Fast. Fast ever. The most of the longest you ever fasted, three days when I was in Russia. What did you eat?

Nothing. The three bars are brought in you. It doesn't even have to be three days. I protected them. You land on the plane, you eat a meal. meal, you go five hours. Here's what I want to say to you. Here's what I want to say to you.

We had a trip coming up to Russia. Now I know the answer. Who's not going to go? Wow. Oh, Adam's not going to go. I'm in the front. I'm with you. Okay.

Have fun. What do you scare about? You and Tucker Carlson go have a great time. Let me explain something to you. You're scared of boogeyman. In plain Russian language. So you naive, useful idiots can understand the words that come out. My grandmother, grandfather from Keith.

This is where he turns. Let me explain something to you. Watch this. If you want to know what's going to happen to Zelensky, look no further than who was formerly Russia, Putin's biggest rival and opposition, was a guy named Alexei Navalny. This guy was poisoned multiple times, and he was such a gangster that he returned to Russia to appear in court to deal with his charges. And guess what? He was put in a prison cell in no man's land in Siberia. And he was found guilty of, you know.

whatever they did, and he was sentenced to 20 years in jail. Now, 20 minutes later, he found himself dead in jail. So if that's what they done to a Russian critic Putin would did, who's a Russian, proud Russian, what are you going to do to the president of Ukraine that's at war with you? To me, this is super naive, and you guys sound like useful Putin idiot puppets. Oh, Adam, Adam, Adam, everything that you just said, Adam, stop. Okay, Adam, nothing like I say.

What are you two girls in the corner, crying together? You two little Muppets over there, team up against me. Everything that you just said. Vinny, you and your dad fight against it. Oh, yeah, you got to go, Vinny, you and your old dad, let's go. Oh, my gosh, you're regressing, you little bit. I'm defending, you guys are defending Putin. Go ahead, you Putin apologists.

Okay, hold on, Adam, ready for this? Look at this. Adam, let me ask. Not there being Nostradamusburg. You know, so it's like. Adam, let me add this. Are you going to me. Adam, don't look there.

Adam, we throw this into the mix. Go ahead. Russia, we go. If you dance, I'm in. No, no, ready for this? Rob, I'm not even looking. Rob, make that big God. Go ahead.

And she comes. And she's there. Yes, I go to Russia right now. I'm pregnant her. Yeah, look at how fast your story change. Well, we tricked you with a guy. So anyway, why do I need to go to, if you know anything about Florida, why do I need to go to Russia when I go to Sunny Isles? But look at that hat.

That hat is awesome. That hat will have a bullet hole in the back of the guy. It's like us. Adam, let's stop. Let's stop. And let me ask you an honest question. I'm just over you right now. What do you think?

What do you think? happens if Zelensky goes there and he's assassinated on the trip? What's going to scream? What's going to happen? Oh, come on. Anyway, I don't want to answer it. You don't want to engage. You don't even want to debate. You're scared. Don't be a little child. Oh, shot. Fire. There's something I'm scared. Stop off the bench and play. You know, so honestly, don't hit me with a calculator.

Lensky goes to Russia and he is assassinated. Yeah. What happens to Putin and the rest of the world's reaction? They probably go to war. Like, they currently are. Like blow up Russia? So why would they do that? It starts with economic sanctions and it ends with isolation. It gets worse. Well.

And they're in the middle of a war of attrition. Let's just see what happens when Zelensky doesn't go to Russia. All right. Let's go to the next story. Okay. Because we already know there's not the way we're going right now. I think forget about going to Russia or going to freaking Ukraine. It's a bad place to be in Fort Lauderdale at an airport, whether you're Canadian or whether you're Jewish.

Something's going to happen here. It's true. Between the Eswolds and India's. Do us, Nick. You will need to exist, Tom. Let's talk about somebody else who has decided to side with Turkey, and that's none other than the Prime Minister of Armenia, Pashinian, joins Erdogan in objecting to American genocide recognition.

Okay, Pashinian questioned the value of international recognition of the Armenian genocide, aligning with Turkish president recap Erdogan's denialist stance, telling Armenian journalists last week that Netanyahu's statement had nothing to do with the Armenia's interest and asking, what have we gained from the recognition of the Armenian genocide by dozens of countries? He further revealed questioning foreign leaders on their recognition motives, prompting criticism for undermining decades of Armenian efforts to publicize the 1950, 1923, Ottoman massacre of one and a half million Armenians, Harut Sasunyan, publisher of the California Courier,

argued Paschinoin should demand justice, including restitution, and return of Western Armenian territory, stating Paschinen is thus actively undermining the pursuit of justice for the Armenian cause. The controversy rose after the Armenian-Assyrian blogger. Guys, I'm a blogger now. Yeah, you're a blogger. You're downgraded. Blogger, PBD. Patrick by David, pressed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on August 27, 2025 about Israel's failure to recognize the Armenian, the Syrian, and the Greek genocide with Nanyahu falsely claiming, in fact, I think we have.

I think the Knesset passed a resolution to that effect before being pushed and saying, but the prime ministers never say it, and he said, I just did. Here you go. So, Armenian prime minister, saying that, I wonder what the Armenian prime minister said

when President Biden accepted and announced, when did President Biden, Rob, recognize the Armenian Genocide? when did he say it two years ago no i want to say 2021 if i could guess okay four years ago whatever the timeline was when he said it how did armenians receive that even guys who didn't vote for biden what did they say hey we gave him love yeah i was right 20 21 it was one of his first acts in office it was like wow you're right and it was fairly quickly coming out and it's not like

he did it before running he did it he announced it boom and then uh look what prime minister Nicole Pishanian, Paschignan said, he praised it as a strong affirmation of human rights. Meanwhile, Turkey strongly objected warning it could cause U.S. Turkey relations. I'm curious, Pashinian, how come you didn't take that same position with this one? Oh, I got it, because now you're doing a deal with Azerbaijan, and you're citing with the people who actually committed the genocide on your people that you're now the prime minister with. So what if Netanyahu praises it or not? So what if he recognizes it or not?

So whether you like him or not, what are you afraid of? It's another world leader that has never done it that is now finally doing it. Isn't that validation for you? Are you concerned about that? Is this something that you worry about? Now, don't get me wrong, a lot of people that are watching this, you know, 2% of the audience that's watching this is like, well, how about the genocide that he's committing and all this other stuff?

Let's isolate this issue. Those are two separate topics that you want to go to. You guys can go and, you know, join them out with that conversation. I'm isolating this one here. It's very interesting what Paschignan is doing with his handling on a situation like this. I'd love to sit down with him and ask him why he would take that position. Why would you be so welcoming of Biden's recognition, but not Netanyahu's? Well, because Netanyahu's playing politics.

They're all playing politics. You think Biden's not playing politics? You think all the other countries that Klimd are not playing politics? You think you're not playing politics? You think Trump's not playing politics? You think Zelensky is not playing? You think Putin's now. Who's in a state leader not playing politics?

Tell me one that's not playing politics. Who? Everybody's playing politics. But if something gets recognized and it's given, receive it for the people that wanted you to receive it. By the way, you have to realize, guys, within a span of a week, my life's been very weird. For one day, we have the most.

like, dislike, ratio interview. They call it the greatest Net Yahoo interview ever done, okay? Record breaking, the greatest Netanyahu interview ever done. Incredible. And the like, dislike ratio, astronomical. Never seen anything like this. Humberto's favorite interview of all time. Loves it.

So that's that part when that takes place. Now, I got the most death threats ever, most, to the point that we have to have certain things that we have to make adjustments for, but that's that. week later is Jubilee and Jubilee the greatest interview ever done to defend capitalism what an incredible spectacle of sitting there doing that

either way they have two different purposes but on the fact that a guy like Netanyahu recognized the Armenian genocide I got a lot of Armenians that say I don't need him to recognize it I don't need him to recognize it are the same people who hated Biden Trump supporters that says

I don't need Biden to recognize it stop with your, what do you call it? Self-fretches. Yeah, yeah. Holier than thou. Holier than thou. I don't want to receive that. Stop, stop.

Stop. Okay. He said it. It's documented. It's there now. And now let's see what Paschini is going to do with it. Some tells me Paschini is very scared of Turkey and very worried. And his diplomacy, the event that happened with Trump, Trump helping him out, at least for now,

he may be protected under Trump but is Armenia going to be protected under whoever the president's going to be after Trump? I don't know. Are you showing that kind of strength and diplomacy where your people are safe under your leadership? Maybe, maybe not. Who knows? Anyways, I don't know if you guys have any one of you guys have to go for it. Go ahead, Adam.

Well, I don't have a horse in this race other than I'm a believer in the truth. And if I'm Armenian, this is a complete slap in the face to any Armenian that cares about the Armenian genocide. And I'm sure we're going to have some stats that we can pull up about what the Ottoman Empire did to their neighbors. If you want to talk about genocide, you know, the Ottoman Empire, the Turks, they're at the top of the list. So everyone throws that G word out there, you know, for 50,000 more or less Hamas fighters or civilians. We're talking millions of people that died not thousands of years ago, not centuries ago,

hundred plus years ago and all these people died at the hands of the Ottoman Turks. So now you have Erdogan of Turkey calling BB of Israel the genocider. Look in the mirror big dog. So it's pretty disgusting to me how

when you point in the mirror there's you know you point there's three fingers pointing right back at you there's a complete slap in the face. I'm not involved in Armenian-Azerbaijan politics but it would appear to me that this guy is nothing more than a Turkish puppet at this point. Take the compliment,

take the acknowledgement, and move on. There's a show called the Young Turks that Jank and Anna run. What are you? You're giving a shout out to the Armenian genocide? Is that what the Young Turks is doing? To me, this is the equivalent of BB downplaying the Holocaust. So I don't know what the Paschenean is thinking,

but why don't you stand on the side of your people, not on the side of the genociders? There you have it. Okay, let's go to next door here. Page 5, Vinny, I'm coming to you and Adam on this one here. Oh, yay. Trump looking to ban transgender people from having a gun and declaring them mentally ill. Department of Justice considering a proposal to restrict transgender Americans from possessing firearms prompted by a mass shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic Church by a 23-year-old trans woman with a Justice Department official stating to CNN to ensure that mentally ill individuals suffering from gender,

for you are unable to obtain firearms while they are unstable and unwelled. This move described as preliminary by CNN contradicts the Trump administration's Second Amendment advocacy, as Attorney General Pam Bondi wrote earlier this year, for too long Second Amendment, which establishes the fundamental individual right of American to keep and bear arms has been treated as a second class right. No more, and it's a policy of this department justice to use its full might to protect the Second Amendment right of its law-abiding citizens. builds on Trump's directives, targeting transgender rights, including an executive already

erasing federal recognition of trans people, restricting gender-affirming health care, banning trans athletes from women's sports, enforcing out thousands of trans service members with Defense Department guidance stating the medical and surgical mental health constraints on individuals who have a current diagnosis or history of or exhibit symptoms consistent with gender dysphoria are incompatible with the high mental and physical standard necessary for military service. This is from the independent, by the way. Vin, your thoughts

on this story. Listen, you know me, you know how many guns I have. I'm pro second amendment. I'm all for it. But at the same time, when they're saying they're evaluating options, these are people that, it's a trend that keeps happening, okay? It's not like we're making this up out of thin air. These same people, the transgender,

nine binary, whatever, they're loaded up on SSRIs, which you guys know are anti-depressants. They're supposed to calm you die. Okay, but the majority of the time, especially when you have a mental disorder, I don't know if something happens where they go over the edge and they just love killing, shooting innocent kids and churches and schools. It's weird, but you're not supposed to say anything because you're transphobic. You hate the LGBT community, which is BS. Okay, and gender dysphoria, okay, is right there in the DSM, which is the diagnostic for statistical manual of mental disorders. The book that doctors use to define mental illness. it's in there okay you have a mental illness you're sick in the head okay and if you got serious stress over your identity okay and it's diagnosed at a disorder that's not it's not my opinion it's a medical fact all right and then you take someone like that mentally disabled uh gone all right you pump them with freaking brain altering drugs and then we wonder hey and then give them a gun

and then we go wait a minute what why would they go and shoot a bunch of kids that are praying in the church and i love the shock factor pat when people are like how could we never saw this happening. Rob, if you could find this, they have a video of the transgender shooter that just happened. He's in a store with a ponytail looking for bullets and guns. They just released it yesterday. So even the Department of Justice is admitting there's, and they said, a pattern of violence tied to mental health and substance abuse, but they won't say the obvious. The common thread is right in front of us, all right? And this isn't about, hey, I want to keep telling people this. They always say, hey, you hate, you hate, no, no. It's about public safety, all right? And if

you're mentally unstable and you're medicated, okay, and to the point of psychosis, I don't think there should be anywhere near a firearm. This is the guy. This is the guy that just shot up. He looks kind of like a boy, but in the back of the hair, I mean, my hair kind of looked like that a week ago. But, um, yeah, but look, he's just casually in there. He's looking for the, oh, he's looking for all the gun, the ammo. This is who? This is the shooter from last week. The one that shot up the, uh, the Minneapolis shooter. The one that was in the apartment, his apartment recording. He doesn't look like. Yeah, he looks completely different. Look, a place for well-being. That's definitely not

the place that you're at right now, bro. But the truth has to come out, and that's the truth. I don't think, Adam, what do you think? These guys like SSRIs, antidepressants, dealing with transgender, you don't know if you're a boy or your girl, and then they want to give you a gun. Yeah. Well, we certainly

have a problem in this country. I don't know if it's a gun problem. I don't know if it's a mental health problem. I don't know if it's a depression problem. I don't know if it's a drug's problem. I don't know if it's a decaying of our people problem. But it's a collectivist, we have a massive problem. And it's reminiscent of exactly what Trump said when we had an Islamic terrorism problem in 2016, 2017. And then Trump said this about the

Muslim ban. Do you remember this line? Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. And then he says this, we have no choice. We have no choice. No choice. You have no choice. No choice. We have no choice.

I don't know what the exact laws are. Second Amendment people might agree, might disagree. There's a clear understanding that school shootings are done by trans people. A lot of them. A lot of them. Recently. Not even allegedly. No, it's happened.

Literally. Yeah. Right? So until we feel. There's a pattern. What the hell is going on? It's not traumatic, but there is a pattern. Clearly.

Yeah. So until we figure out what the hell is going on, people with massive mental health disorders probably shouldn't have guns. That's on the, Adam. If you have one, you're not supposed to have a gun. On top of that, you're on drugs that are known to make people crazy.

Not only suicidal, listen, if you're already dealing with transgender, gender dysphoria, whatever it is. And God help them. I hope they, you know, instead of having a society pat him on the back and say, you go live your truth, help these people. Find out what the hell is going on in here. What happened to their youth? What happened?

They go through trauma. But no, now you know that they have a mental disorder. They're on these drugs at them that are known to make you go crazy. And then you're going to give them a gun. And I know what the Second Amendment people are going to say. No, everybody should be allowed to have a gun. I agree. But if you have a mental problem, a mental disorder that the Department of Justice and the DSM,

has already classified, why would you ever give anybody that has a mental disorder a gun? You're not in your right mind. I don't get it. And then how many, I mean, how many more? So you're for this. You're for this. I'm for transgender. Like, they already are mentally messed up.

If you're transgender, you have gender dysphoria. You have a mental disorder. It's transgender right now. Somebody who is transgender, is that considered mentally ill? Gender dysphoria, you mean? Yes. Yeah, is gender dysphoria considered mentally ill? I don't know.

Yes, yes, by the DSM. The diagnostic of statistical manual of mental disorders, the doctors use it for mental illness. Gender dysphoria is right. Gender dysphoria is changing in recent years. DSM-5, Senator-M-Ker-Kers-Is. It lists a gender disorder as a mental disorder. No, it says it's not considered a mental illness.

It says it is. No, Madam. Being transgender disorder as a mental disorder. The older version did identify it as a mental disorder. And it changed it. In 2013, they replaced it in. Now it's not considered a mental illness. So it's not.

Okay. Well, keep on down, Rob, 2020 update. The who removed it. Yeah, who was in charge in 2022. Okay. Well, guess what? So, so then it's not a mental disorder. Okay, today it's not.

So if it's not, Vinnie, the same way, what did Trump do with trend, the Aragua? What did he do with them? Terrorist organization. Yeah. What did he do with many of these guys? terrorist organization, if he qualifies this and maybe RFK qualifies this, then for me it makes sense. For me, believe it or not, I also think anybody taking SSR, you know, SSRIs, anybody taking them shouldn't have a gun.

Anybody? Anybody? Well, I'm telling you right now, for me, anybody. because when you see what that chemical reaction does to you where you the side effects you're seeing what it causes you to do suicidal side effects suicidal reaction in many cases they tell you in the box

on what can happen if you take these what is if you got suicidal tendencies if you're willing to kill yourself you think you're not willing to kill other people great point no I think by the way and that's a controversial statement I'm making it is but all I'm saying to you is if you're going there, then somebody else

may come in and say, why don't we go there? Because one can't go without the other. That's exactly what I'm saying. Very slippery slope. And just to make the point, you got some hardcore two-way people that do not agree with what you get in the saying. I know. I know. And by the way, because I think legally, hear me out,

I think legally, fact-checked is if you have just a basic mental problem, you have depression, you have anxiety, you could definitely own a gun in this country. That's not even that's not even an issue. Okay, there's There's two things here. So let's go to receipts, and I'm going to give you unemotional receipts.

So whenever you hear the NRA talking about 4473, so if you look up NRA 4473, and it's everywhere, they lobby on this quite a bit, that is a form that you must voluntarily fill out. And I'm going to go to insurance, and you're going to back me up on something. Okay. Don't be so sure about that. No, no, you will. And 4473 is a form that you will. You have to voluntarily fill out that said, I'm on psychological medication.

Once you fill that out, the guy at this counter says, well, if you're voluntarily telling me that, I cannot sell you a gun. Because you're voluntarily telling me that you're under care and you've got this. So go away. There's no check. Whereas if you want life insurance and says, are you taking any drugs? No, I'm not. Sign here because we're also going to do a script check. You do a script check.

Wait, wait, wait. I'm happy to give you life insurance, but the price is going to change because you've been on nicotine patches for three years. When did you quit smoking? And you're on thyroid medication. So you can still get life insurance, but the price is going to go up because of your risk factors. Why didn't you tell the truth? We can tell. They don't do that to buy a gun. And so, yeah, yep. So the ATF doesn't want 4473 to become a check because they want people to be able to get the guns. That's bad. On the other hand, I have to call the local sheriff and say, my cousin, Adam, is bad shit crazy? Had a breakdown.

because of a recent divorce. He has two guns at home. I don't want him to harm himself, and I think he needs to get his head together. Sheriff David is dispatched to say, Hey, Adam, there's a concern from one of your... Hey, Pat! Do you have firearms here?

Yes, I own two pistols. He tells the truth. I know, I show the serial numbers here and your permit number. We need to take them. We're not confiscating them, but we are going to impound them, and then you need to go to court and talk about this,

because a family member is concerned about you. Thank you for cooperating. I'm taking your weapons. So that's the way it works. You have to have a family member turn you in and it happen, or you have to voluntarily do this. My attitude is, I believe that if life insurance automatically does script check,

then why shouldn't a gun purchase do the same script check? I fully agree. Because if I, Tom, if I right now try to sell you an insurance policy and the insurance company finds out you're on Prozac or Zoloft. And I lied on the last page. If they find out, OK, Rob, can you can you pull up

do life insurance companies underwrite somebody taking Prozac or Zoloft? Or Zoloft. Do life insurance companies They don't, right? Underwrite those taking and what do you call those medicines? Prozac.

SSR. In a different way, what does it say? Medication alone is not disqualified, but it will make it more expensive. It is going to make you more expensive. So check this out. So if life insurance companies automatically see it as a risk, and that's life insurance, why wouldn't somebody that's selling a gun do? And you sign and give them permission to look at public records of your prescriptions.

If Trump and them are going to go this direction, well, you've got to go full, right? Right. It's like, you know, you can't. No, don't say that. Don't do it. Yeah. Don't go full, Pat. Yeah. Don't do it. Yeah. Nobody go full. No, because Tropic Thunder, you're done after you do something like that. Right. So to me, I, Tom, for a guy that. I'm loaded. I'm to a. And I am like, go with this. Yep. I am. I'm good. Because life insurance companies. Right. So why don't you do that? And by the way, how quickly do we do it? How quickly do life insurance companies do that check? there are there are instant underwriting and accelerated underwriting now viny that'll happen i'll be sitting at your house i fill it out on my iPad it goes in there tom we're going to lose the audience if we start correcting people on how to fill out of the life insurance application no no no i'm just saying it is quick it doesn't take weeks it's very quick they can practically

do it at the point of sale yeah all right let's go to the best buy to get an iphone get into a credit check in eight seconds we're going to go to tom we're going to go to next story and the next stories about Venezuela is what we're going to go to. President Trump praises military strike on Venezuela drug boat. And what does Venezuela do? First, let me read that. Rob, do you have the video right there? I do.

If you can play this clip first and then play the other one, this is getting very interesting. So watch this one here, folks. This is what President Trump is praising. Look, look, look, earmuffs. Look, all the bags of drugs in the back. Probably some guns. Let's just be honest with each other. Changed the angle.

Mining their own business. They're just kind of like, nice little boat ride. Ocean. Hey, here's a cigar. Heading to Miami. Let's change the angle. Okay.

All right. Incoming. In, Oh. Bye. You know what? That's why you should never smoke in bed. Done.

Those guys all die. Oh, yeah. By the way, do we know who was on the boat? 11 individuals. They claim are drug smugglers from Venezuela. Drennawa. They were turned out of 45. who are now in the Agua?

Say it again. They were right. Apparently, according to reports, they were driving the boat at night, dark with no lights to try and be, you know, incognito. So they were definitely up to something suspicious. Okay. So they were definitely up to something suspicious.

So President Trump praises that. Was there a tweet on that or no? A video. Okay, go forward. Come out and when you leave the room, you'll see that we just, over the last few minutes, literally shot out a boat,

a drug-carrying boat, a lot of drugs in that boat, and you'll be seeing that, and you'll be reading about that. It just happened moments ago, and our great general, head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who has been so incredible, including what took place in Iran, knocking out potential nuclear power for a long time to come. I think within a month they would have had it We didn't do what we did. But he gave us a little bit of a briefing, and you'll see. And there's more where that came from. We have a lot of drugs pouring into our country, coming in for a long time.

Composurite, you know. Meanwhile, Venezuela fighter jets flew over U.S. Navy ship in show of force. This is a CBS story, two armed Venezuela and F-16 jets, which I think Americans sold it to them, right? That is old technology that we sell to people like Venezuela to protect themselves, yes. over the USS Jason Dunham and Aegis guided missile destroyer on Thursday in a show of force, as confirmed by multiple Defense Department officials, but the Pentagon stating on X, this highly provocative move was designed to interfere with our counter-narco-terror operation. The cartel running Venezuela strongly advised not to pursue any further effort to obstruct, deter,

or interfere with counter-narcotics and counter-terror operations carried out by the U.S. military, recurred in the international waters in the southern Caribbean, part of U.S. naval flotilla deployed to target criminal organizations and narco-terrorism through CBS News could not confirm any specifics response from the USS J-Sim Dunham. So, Tom, your thoughts on this here? First of all, if anybody understands what the three Aegis-class destroyers that are out there, they had those aircraft on radar from 100 miles away or more. And those guys were almost certainly on direct radar lock as they flew over and they knew it.

And with a simple message, back to Maduro, the only reason those guys aren't in the water is because we didn't bother to. And your little show of force here, we could have splashed both of those things before you even had a chance to finish your morning coffee. And so this show of force with, this is not a show of force. It is a political photo op that Venezuela is trying to do for the rest of the world. But if we thought that there was any threat to those guys, they would have been downed from 50 miles away. And so to me, this is really odd. And the Department of Defense is showing some restraint here. Yeah, those two aircraft here, I really wouldn't do that again.

So we're basically saying, I told you once. that's it and that's what we're saying here I told you once you want you want to do this again you know what this could be really bad because there's a reason that we sent those and by the way Vinnie do you think those destroyers are alone

or do they have little brothers below the water they have a lot of little I mean little big brothers with a lot of capability and they have also got high altitude aircraft that's got a radar blanket over the whole place they've got everything they need

and so these destroyers are not out there vulnerable. So this wasn't a show of force. It was a show of stupidity. And then the Defense Department, they're lucky that we just didn't do it, Pat. Because the other thing would have been a little blue box from the Department of Defense.

Dermaduro, what the hell were you thinking? Period. Thank you for your attention to this matter. You know what I'm shocked? Pita hasn't said anything because they blew up that boat with the water, with the cocaine. And like, you know how many sharks are probably just coked out of their mind? Remember cocaine bear? Wow. Oh my God. Am I freaking dolphin? Am I like, they're losing their minds right now? And I'm

Shock Pete that is. Staying up all night, swimming oddly. Talking like their friend's ears off. Scratching, scratching their cheeks really fast. Yeah, those poor sharks. I know a lot about how sharks are acting. Interesting. That's cocaine talk. But go ahead. Okay, gotcha. Well,

everyone knows Maduro's a bad dude. I also have major issues based on what's going on here. Anytime the CIA try to gets involved in regime change, that always ends ugly most of the time. By the way, how did our war on drugs workout in

the history of America. We lost. It's been a massive failure. The drugs won. Yeah. I mean, it filled the prisons with millions of black and brown dudes. I used to listen to the song,

I got five on it. I was like, damn, this is the jam. They're like, yeah, it means like a nickel bag of weed. I was like, oh, again, that's not a big deal. Remember Kamala Harris on Three Strikes Along California? Very good song by Loonies, but it's an incredible song by Loonies. I always wanted to have five on it until I realized that it was a nickel bag. And then I realized you can go to.

jail for a nickel bag what so that's what happened there so the government wasted um tom people are talking uh the government wasted billions of dollars on um fighting the drug war in latin america that during that did nothing meanwhile big pharma here in america we just talked about it made

billions if not trillions and we got thousands tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of people hooked on opioids here in america so there's a massive opioid epidemic that we need to deal with I just don't know if this show of force is actually going to benefit us in the end because anything we've done in the war on drugs has backfired.

Well, let's see. Let's see what's going to happen here. I can tell you one of the 20 things he did talk about was fentanyl. And if you want to focus on something like Epstein and that's all you care about, he's trying to focus on his 20-year shoes. That's what he's trying to do.

So don't get distracted here with the games that you play sometime that gets out of control. Listen, you just... So let me. me get back to this next story. You just like the Looney's reference. I love the Looney's reference. That's right. By the way, and I like the remix version of that song. Tom, I will give you a thousand dollars right now if you can sing that I got five on it song by the Looney's $1,000 right now.

Just sing the chorus, Tom. That's all you have to get. Just the chorus. How does I got five on it go? I don't know. I don't know about it. My name is the biz doc. I don't know about it. All right. So let me show you this. Bown in, known it, known it. Let's go to this one. Tom, you don't have any money on it, folks, if you live in Dearborn Heights, here's what's going on on Dearborn Heights,

and you know about it. Dearborn Heights, this is the official police badge in Dearborn Heights. It's over. Just to make sure everybody knows. Dearborn Heights is the first in U.S. with Arabic on their police patch. Okay, so let's go through this year.

The Dearborn Heights Police Department to do the nation's first police patch featuring both English and Arabic script designed by officer Emily Murdoch to reflect the city's diverse community in the patch displaying the Michigan seal in the center in the words of Dearborn Heights. Police written both languages, the

department led by police chief Ahmed Haydhar, confirmed on Wednesday that the optional patch can be worn as part of officers' uniforms aiming to honor the 39% of Deerbourne Heights residents of Middle Eastern and North African descendants of 2023 with neighboring deerborn having a 55% population of similar background. The department praised the initiative stating on Facebook,

we are proud of Officer Murdoch's creativity and dedication and helping our department better represent the people we serve. Our officers proudly serve all members of our community and this new design is another way we can continue to celebrate the rich cultures that make our city unique. Vinny, your thoughts on this. Listen, you could call me a racist, you could call me xenophobic, whatever the hell you want to call me.

I don't care. This is a no-go. I don't give a damn if it's Arabic, Hebrew, Farsi, I'm a Syrian. It doesn't matter. The second you put on foreign language on a local law enforcement uniform, you cross the line. And anybody, there's nothing that you could say that's going to change my mind, okay? We made like, where do we live? We're the United States of America.

I don't like any other. This is our freaking country. And I don't, call me whatever the hell you want. And again, Adam, we're talking about the New York thing. We let one, then this is going to happen here, and it's not going to stop. I'm anti this through and through, period. Adam. Well, I just got back from Detroit.

I was actually in Dearborn because when you fly into Detroit Airport, you have to go through Dearborn. And I actually went out of my way. You're more comfortable. You're more comfortable flying into Deerborn Heights than Russia? I will sit down with anybody. Okay, you want to know what? It has come to this.

What are you talking about right now? He's right. Are you ready? You ready? Russia. I walk into the airport. I sit my mom down. This was my first experience as soon as I got to the airport.

Play it with volume, please. What's up, guys, here in Detroit. And just want to bring you into speed on what's going on here. You're so funny. Detroit. I want to be very clear that I'm in Detroit. And I'm in an airport. And these are my people sitting near me in America.

Damn, you're getting close. I'm in there. They might recognize you. Let me just make sure. So, by the way, I have multiple videos of this. Practice whatever religion you want. Do whatever you want in America. Freedom of speech, freedom religion.

We're done with the face covering thing. There's people in Detroit covered up as if they're going to Mecca today. This is a little aggressive to me. So this is just a little example here of now the police, what is this? The shield is in Arabic. I'm okay with it. There's no face coverings in America. You're okay with the shield thing, but you're not.

I'm just saying there needs to be a line drawn here. I don't know about the shield. I see different languages, different cities. Not in America. Okay. Adam, they're going to get upset at you. But the fact that you could just operate how you're operating in Saudi Arabia in Detroit is problematic to me.

I mean, there's a body that there were in the, I mean, other races. Jewish people wear yarmacos. You don't get mad at them for whatever. But that's not covering your face. Well, that's their religion. I don't think that, I don't think that's bad. To me, I think that is messed up. To me, that's cultural aware.

As long as you show your face, we're okay. I'm the other way. You know they say no face, no case? Yeah. Yeah. Adam, is it because like if you're trying to flirt, you want to know what they look like? That's a whole different situation. I'm just saying whether it's a master in COVID.

But if that's what you're saying, maybe there's a, but to me, I don't have a problem, but that's how they dress because that's their religious way of dressing. Not America, buddy. I got a problem with this year, guy. That's what I got a problem with. I got a problem with that. Okay. That's what bothers me the most.

Let me go to Tim Kaine. Former VP candidate for Hillary Clinton. Sparks backlash after calling declaration of independence. God-given rights extremely troubling. Rob, do you have this clip by any chance? So he faced widespread criticism after stating during a Wednesday Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing. And this is what you have to say. Go ahead.

The notion that rights don't. come from laws and don't come from the government, but come from the creator. That's what the Iranian government believes. It's a theocratic regime that bases its rule on Shia law and targets Sunnis, Baha'is, Jews, Christians, and other religious minorities. And they do it because they believe that they understand what natural rights are from their creator. So the statement that our rights do not come from our laws or our governments is extremely troubling. Oh my. Okay, so what? Okay. And I know we touched on it a little bit early in the week,

but this is, to me, like, what the Democratic Party has become. He said the idea that rights come from the creator are not the government. He said it, it's extremely troubling and he compared it to Iran. Like, are you, that's not a slip of the tongue, bro. That's exposing the mindset of the party that hates what this country was built on. So our founders, and I want to, I want to prove to you how absolutely wrong he is, Tom, because you said it before we started. It's crystal clear in the Declaration of Independence. And I quote, all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.

Okay. Right? Not from the government. Not by politicians like Tim Cain. Okay, by God. All right. And if the government gives you your rights, guess what they could do, Tom? They can take them away.

All right. And that's how dictatorship like Mao's China operates. Okay. And look what it. And again, look what the party stands for. I was on Piercepan I was going against Jim Carval

James Carval and what's his time Harry's Asian Harry assistant I go What did your party stand for I go If you guys have all

These problems I go You're pushing gender ideology You guys mutilate children With surgeries and hormones That's your party Open borders that like

Chaos pour in Which more sex trafficking happens You put American Families in danger You guys want to Defund the police You celebrate abortion

You weaponize The Department of Justice and FBI destroy people in your way what else what do you stand for yeah but vini vini other than that yeah and tom i love you sound very angry no no adam it just drives it's almost like you're an angry patron no but but it just drives me crazy because you have people like this saying complete lies okay and then we you're showing your true colors you're not even hiding it you're saying it didn't come from god really then who should i believe should i believe you tim kane who has absolutely

no lips i have small lips tim kane doesn't have any lips so when you have him saying that they don't come from God, but it comes for a government. He's saying the quiet part out loud, which I'm actually proud. Good. Show your colors. Show who you are. Okay, he's telling you straight up that they're America and his America and this Democrat guys, America, all right? Politicians play God, period.

This really, really piss me off when I heard him say it that it doesn't come from the God. What do you agree, Tom? Well, it's right there in a constitution, you know, inalienable rights. by our creator. And that's what led to the Bill of Rights. And that's what it's based on. And so for him to say that is incorrect. Now, is he just being really clumsy in this particular hearing and saying, no, your rights don't come from great. Your rights come right here that we make the laws in a constitution. Well, then I could get that. But that's not what he said. And it was a very cumbersome argument. And I'm with Vinny. It's like, dude, what are you saying?

Well, you know, you wait for a moment for them to try to invite and welcome another community into their base. And I don't know how many times they keep fumbling this. Time after time after time again, they keep fumbling this. And keep in mind, he was about to be your vice president of America. Yep. He was disclosed. If James Comey doesn't release what he released, Hillary Clinton's your president. And by the way, Trump may never be the president.

That's right. Trump may never be. Hillary would have been a two-termer, and today he could have been your president as the VP becoming like a Joe Biden type of thing. She wasn't perfectly healthy. If she was president, we were a stroke away from this guy being president. Yeah, that would have been troubling. Adam, your thoughts? Well, let's just say this. America is a Christian country. And those of us that are Jews, that are Muslims, that are Buddhists, that are Hindu, we're all just guests. And let's respect the fact that America is a Christian country. Now, it might not say that explicitly in the Constitution, but we all kind of know this was founded based on Judeo-Christian values by Christian people that are being persecuted and came to America,

whether it was the Pilgrims or whether it was our forefathers that started this country. And I'm Jewish, and I'm saying this. I also want to say that this is an English-speaking country, even though English is not, quote-unquote, the law of the land. We all know that this is an English-speaking country. So some things are assumed, some things are applied, some things are God-given, I get it. There's a constant tug of war between separation of church and state, should it be secular, should be more theocratic, should the Ten Commandments be in school.

But let's just understand. This is a Christian country, and don't upset the Christians. Now, my other response is, can the Christians get a little bit of a backbone? Because the Muslims have it. The Jews have it. Christians are a little too tolerant, in my opinion. So stop being so soft Christians and speak up. Watch your language, right?

This thing almost came. This thing was like, it was like naturally. Sorry, guys. I'm rooting for you guys. You're going to get five on it. I'm rooting for you guys. You said a few things. I'm trying to give you guys credit.

Your face is about to have five on it. It's coming very soon. All right. All right. Let's get to the end of the podcast. Guys, two shoutouts I got to get. Okay. One, I got to give a shout out to the greatest pastor in the world.

I've heard so many people preach over the years. No one has come close to this man. He's a special man. He's been going through some challenges the last two years. Family, you know, a brother, and he's holding it together. The one and only Dudley Rutherford, if you can share this with him. I hope he sees it Dudley, just so you know you are loved by me. You are loved by our kids.

Our kids, when we ask them, can we go to church or watch Dudley? Unanimous, would rather watch Dudley. We're on the Collagians Part 3. You had another pastor preached this past Sunday. they want to watch the whole 18 episode that you guys want to go through the kids are committed the family's committed

you need to know you are loved by people around the world and your name is always coming up cannot tell you how many people love you if you feel that way send a man a message if you know who he is give the man some love

number two this one I'm not comfortable about and I want you guys to not watch this part if you guys want to get off the podcast now and just go do something else please go don't watch this next part at much rather only be zero viewers while I'm saying this so nobody sees this last part of it respectfully please get off the podcast this past Monday we had a friends over at our house about a hundred of them and it was amazing

kids are swimming in the pool we're eating good food all this other stuff having fun you know joking all fights taking place outside with kids we'll keep that anonymous but uh we decided me teakrin and a couple of us to play dominoes and we have one of our friends louis who's a good domino player but he's not a great domino player like he's just he can play and have fun with you that's what like a sixth man i think he was good in maybe geometry not more math analysis or yeah but then we played with this one lady who comes later on we found that her father did time grandfather did time 40 years ago was a professional domino player allegedly i want to put that allegedly from benezuela and then while we're playing she beats us the first time and i sat there said she just got

lucky there's no way in the world this is legit or real this is just fake i said let's go go one more time. And then after the second time, when she beat us, and I tell you beat us, she beat us in a way that she was counting everybody's chips. And we know how to play this game. Oh, wow, really. Counting Tikran's chips. Oh, snap. Two games. She dominated everybody. And I got to give Karina Machado a shout out. And then later on, her husband said, she went to the top university in Venezuela, El Catalica, Venezuela, if I'm saying it correctly. And guess what?

She is the only person in the history of that school to get 100 on her calculus in the university. Vinio showed up, and I told her, if they ever fire you, you got a job here with us. So I told you I'm going to keep my promise, and I'm doing it here, folks. Please don't share this with anybody, especially if you know her.

Don't even send it her way. I just said I'm going to do it, and I want to make sure I do it. Everybody that was there, you know who you are. We're going to have a rematch. Hey, wherever you are, you're watching this. We're going to have a rematch. I've been taking some calculus late-night classes, studying math analysis.

Anyways, gang, much love to everybody. We're going to be gone. You're not going to get a podcast on Monday. You're not going to get a podcast from us on Wednesday, meaning a live home team podcast. I believe on Monday we have a, oh, Monday is going to be sick. our trip to Italy we're going to be announcing a new partner of arts

a collaboration that we've been working on for a while they'll be coming out an interview of the number one clothing brand that billionaires were according to New York Times 0.001% of the world that wears you're going to see an entire spectacle of what it was when we went to Italy and then we have on 9-11 you will have

Robert O'Neill who is the man who killed Osama bin Laden will be on podcast with him on 9-11 and there's going to be another one of whistleblower in 2000 when he called that SSRIs and he'll be coming out I think on Tuesday or Wednesday and by the way Robert O'Neill if you guys wanted to manette him he's officially on Meneck you can actually manette the Robert O'Neill on Maneck as well that'll be next week and then we will do a home team podcast Friday out of Orlando so you're not going to get any of this up

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God bless everybody. Have a great weekend.