PBD Podcast - Ex-Raytheon Whistleblower Gives Inside Scoop on Antarctica

Episode Date: November 15, 2023

Patrick Bet-David interviews ex-Raytheon whistleblower Eric Hecker who gives the inside scoop on Antarctica. Hecker is a former member of the Navy who worked for Raytheon, a major U.S. defense contractor. His position as a firefighter and plumber for the South Pole facility in Antarctica gave him unrestricted access to the compound. During his stay, Hecker observed highly advanced directed energy weapons and other technologies beyond what we previously thought possible. He has also testified to Congress under oath and hopes to bring his experience to the public for the good of humanity. Purchase tickets to the PBD Town Hall: Live Meet the Candidate Event with Robert F. Kennedy Jr on December 6th: https://bit.ly/3QRXgoX Get best-in-class business advice with Bet-David Consulting: https://bit.ly/40oUafz Visit VT.com for the latest news and insights from the world of politics, business and entertainment: https://bit.ly/46a8TMC Visit Valuetainment University for the best courses online for entrepreneurs: https://bit.ly/47gKVA0 Text PBD to 65532 or call 866-939-6984 Subscribe to: @Valuetainment @PBDPodcast @ValuetainmentShortClips @vtsoscast @ValuetainmentComedy @bizdocpodcast Want to get clear on your next 5 business moves? https://valuetainment.com/academy/ Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQL Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

So imagine you got somebody that worked at Raytheon. It has access to pretty much everything, and then besides to be a whistleblower, I started to paint this picture that everybody here is bamboozled. Nobody here has a clue what's actually going on. What do you think was actually going on? Directed and energy weapons platforms.

We've had leaders, American leaders themselves, multiple times, and threatened other nation states with earthquakes if they didn't get in line to manipulate. They're in a very powerful and privileged position. When you make a claim saying Joe Biden said he's going to have that earthquake, immediately causing it to lose credibility to zero. No, no, no, no. That's $500 billion.

$500 billion is a absurd number. So you think the idea right now to read people's thoughts that technology exists? Absolutely. I feel like I played poker for the last hour, 15 minutes. You know, it's a one thing a lot of people are very curious about. There's a lot of stories and theories about this place and Arctic. A South Pole. So imagine you got somebody that worked at Raytheon, has access to pretty much everything, gets assigned to go work South Pole from 2010-2011, and then decides to be a whistleblower to come out and say, here's what I learned, and he's a former remote viewer,

remote viewer, and I may say, what's a remote viewer? It's something I've seen all over the place tied to the CIA, is the practice of seeking impressions about a distant or unseen subject, supposedly sending or sensing with the mind, typically a remote viewer is expected to give information about an object, event personal location that is hidden from physical view and separated at some distance in the early 1970s, the CIA,

experimented with applications of remote view and intelligence gathering, government agencies, including the Department 1970s, the CIA experimented with applications of remote view and intelligence gathering. Government agencies, including the Department of Defense, use remote viewers to obtain intelligence information. He came out three months ago to the podcast, but I believe Sean Reign sharing some of this information as a whistleblower. And you will not find anything on him out there. If you go try to look for interviews, he's only done one.

And it was 35 minutes very short. Woodshon Ryan, this has been a topic that's been coming up. I asked him to come on the podcast. He was kind enough to say yes. You know, when it comes onto an Arctic, I got a lot of questions here. I want to go through, you know, you people are talking about you,

what you're what you're motivated to do. This I think it's important for the audience to know this because sometimes people will say, well, I want to come and tell my story. For $28,000, I'll tell my story, or hey, I want to promote my book, or I want to promote a movie, I want to promote a documentary, or I want to promote something, or give me the link to my website, or have them come to my podcast, you're asking for nothing, you're not asking for anything in return, and to me, that gains trust from your end because there's not a motive in it.

I'm a pretty skeptical guy on why people are doing certain things to get the eyeballs that they're getting, but none of those red flags came about. Others maybe later on, I'll ask you about it because I want to see what you'll say about it, but having said that, appreciate you for coming out. Thank you for having me, sir. I do appreciate the interest. It's a very interesting. So, a basic question, background, before going to you choosing to be a whistleblower, the only

thing I can find is the one year with Raytheon when you went to Antarctica, South Pole, and you did weighted. Give me a little bit of pride to that. What did you do prior to working with Raytheon? Prior to working for Raytheon, I had a company on Long Island for myself for a bit, to implement the needing repairs and a lot of emergency service calls. Prior to that, I was directly employed by some of the other, I guess you'd say, larger plumbing and heating contractors

in the greater Long Island area. I worked, my clientele, I would say, was a bit on the special side. I seem to have been working for the owners and operators of some of said military industrial complex corporations. This is pre-Ratheon. Correct. Okay.

I would have been in a fistful of facilities on Long Island that I would say were above top secret to the point of taking extremely long elevator rides to get to the basements. One facility in particular that I'm thinking of is in Roslyn, Long Island, Portland, Paul Corporation, anybody who looks into who Dr. Paul was, will find that he was big with the Manhattan Project, and so was his company.

These were the types of folks that I worked for, the facilities that I worked in, and having walked the path, at this point, I would just say that at the time, that things walk this point, I would just say that at the time that things are happening in my direct first hand experience in chronological order that it appeared, everything seemed benign, but I got to a certain point in my life, post-South Pole Station in Antarctica, where people started telling me, you know, I'd share stories and they said,

you need to write a book, and I started thinking to thinking to my squarely saying this. And then I started to be a bit introspective and it started to dawn on me that I had walked a way more peculiar path than I had considered up until that point. And I started to really, I guess you'd say reframe my memories to look back at things a little bit differently. You know, I think of like a photograph on the wall and you might have it matted and frames to look beautiful. But if you take away the matting in the frame, you know, I think of like a photograph on the wall and you might have it matted and frames to look beautiful. But if you take away the matting and the frame, you see more of the image. So I started looking backwards in my recollections and reframing those images with what I know now. So I've spent a lot of time around mobsers and gangsters interviewing them, having them on

the podcast. And a lot of times when you ask a mobster when they were active, hey, what do you do for a living? I own a construction business. I own a plumbing business. I own dry cleaners. I own this. When you tell me you're a plumber, you give me red flags, because to me, you take me to, you know,

it's a little bit blurry, your background, on what you've done. Just fine. Maybe it's intentional, maybe it's not. It could go to CIA route, it could be the CIA route, it could be a lot of different intelligence, you know, it's not hard to be associated with them. But you're saying you've never been involved CIA, you've not done anything with the CIA, that's not something you've done in the past before.

I have never been directly employed by any of those companies, alphabet agencies, however, you want to title them, but having looked backwards, I question the proximity that I was to them. I may have been some sort of unknown asset. Is my suspicion? The type of clients that I had are not the type of people that when they get a leak under their sink, they go to the yellow pages and check for the local plumber. So I believe that I was on some sort of an improved list by whom I don't know, but I can tell you that certainly I was involved in peculiar activities 24 hours a day.

There were certain clients that could call me 24 hours a day, request which vehicle I showed up in, either my labeled plumbing company van or up to and including an extremely fast street racing Camaro. Let's just put it that way. And these clients would dictate when I met them what vehicle I'd shut up with, which mansion we were going to. Are these names we would recognize? John Toney was one of them, owner of the Carlyle Group.

John Toney, owner of the Carlyle Group, a partners with a billionaire that we've had on the podcast before, David Rubenstein. Okay, it's interesting. You're familiar with the car lila? Of course I am. Yes. I did a lot of peculiar work for the car lila group and their facilities and their personnel.

So unpack peculiar work, what does that mean? I would say that our setup is some sort of getaway driver. That if things went wrong, I was known to be good at that. Getaway from what? Get away driver from what? Whatever he was doing in that mansion. Do you ever see anything weird when you're like this? Is kind of weird what they're working on.

I think I saw that all the time. I think so many of the things now in retrospect were extremely peculiar, but it's because of the collected experiences that I have now that I can look back and make that assessment. At the time that things happened first-hand experience, they seemed a lot more benign, and maybe I was naive, maybe I was young, maybe that's what was being taken advantage of, but looking backwards, a lot of the facilities that I worked in, a lot of the folks homes that I was present in, things got weird all the time. It was not rare that I would be working at a bar sink in a billionaire's common space.

And next thing I know, I would get asked by them, he and his friends to sit down and engage in whatever conversation they had been involved with. At the time, I didn't think much of it. But in hindsight, that's really weird. You know, it's not often that a bunch of billionaires ask the plumber to sit down and dialogue with them. What's wrong with that? Maybe they just want to be personal. Maybe they don't want to have a conversation with you. Nothing wrong with it at all. You're right, no prejudices,

but just in the grand scheme of every other day in that role, it wasn't as common as you would think. It was an out of the ordinary experience. For the most part, in those environments, I was observably invisible. Got it. Like I would think about it, you know, we have somebody in my office who comes, he's doing the lights, he's doing the ACs, he's doing work, and I was like, he's there, I'll be on conference calls, he can hear what I'm talking about, what I'm doing. So it

could be as simple as that kind of a relationship they had with you, but they trusted you. Fair enough, but it would be different if you were then to engage that tradesman, bring them into your conversation and start asking their opinion on things. Okay. Okay. Get away driver. Get away from what? To have you said the Camero or the company car, right? The company truck. You unpacked it a little bit, but if you don't mind going a little bit deeper, when I hear get away, I think about getaway that we're running away from doing something, illegal underground that I don't want people to know about and I need to trust somebody that can get us to different destinations so we won't get caught. Am I reading it correctly?

Absolutely. So what are we getting away from? I guess, again, whoever the mansion was that we arrived at. Basically, I would get a call 24 hours a day. Mr. Tony could contact me. I would ask him which vehicle he wanted me to pick him up in. And then when I would pick him up, he would then give me an address to go to. I would wait outside. He would do whatever his business was in the interior. I wish I could tell you, I know there were a couple of times that I did enter with him, but I can't recall them that well, to be honest. And that was a rarity. He almost never asked me to

enter. It was always way outside. Okay. So let's talk about remote viewing. Okay. To the average person, we see a remote view. It's kind of weird. It's tough to explain. It's technical, right? What remote viewing is? If you don't mind to the average audience, what is remote viewing? Remote viewing, people just need to understand is a skill set, first and foremost, that everybody possesses. Similar to the ability to play a guitar, there's nothing keeping you from playing a guitar other than your own desire and level of practice to prove proficiency. Anybody can do remote viewing.

Nothing stopping anyone from doing it, other than a massive amount of folks saying that it can't be done. But the facts of the matter, remote viewing to put in its simplest definition is one's ability to get the right answer without any scientific basis on how they got it. It's outside of what our understanding of abilities are, but it works. It's been proven time and time again that it is very effective. It's very accurate. Is it very learnable? Is it used by illusionists?

It's used by all sorts of folks. It could be used by illusionists for sure. There is some semblance of a two-way street to working on this energy level. So, part of what I'm discussing today and the ability to put thoughts in people's head contemporarily by an abusive technology was in antiquity an abusive technique. So, a depth of old would have the ability to enter this space and have a thought go into your head. Now, there's technologies that do that. And we can put this in the spectrum of, you know, let's say the energies that remote viewers work in. Okay.

So brainwashing is not a new thing. Not at all. Brainwashing has been around for a while. So if you look at the process of brainwashing, you'll hear somebody talk about isolation, monopolization, debilitation, exhaustion, drugs, torture, enforcement of routine hypnosis, repetition, gaslighting. If I keep repeating it to affirmations, there's a lot of effectiveness in repetitive,

getting somebody to think positive or negative or weak or you can do this or you need the government. Many ways you can do this. I've spent going off for a long time, whether it's operation mocking, but you're talking about other things. But for you, when you remote viewer, you get hired as a plumber to go to Raytheon, then they upgrade you to firefight. You have access to pretty much everything while you're there in Antarctica. For the average person that, you know, when you

think about Antarctica, this is kind of where I go to. You know, fun facts and strange facts about an Arctic. Okay. It's a desert, dry continent on the planet. Very few people live there, 140 permanent residents. It was discovered recently in 1820 by Russian expedition. No country owns it. It was a name down to 1890s. Mostly ice 90%. Holds most of the world's fresh water 60 to 90%. It used to be as warm as Melbourne, years ago, 40, 50 million years ago, 63 degrees Fahrenheit.

Right now it's 128 degrees minus 120 degrees Fahrenheit. Give or take. No time zone. There's the only way it can go is north. It has active volcanoes. Subglacial lake that flows blood red, diamond dust floats, even back in the days Hitler was fascinated by Antarctica where he had a passion for the cult and he was searching for something in Antarctica, the Nazi Germany's building station in Antarctica, however was abandoned some 70 something years ago. So they offer you a job to go to Antarctica. One, how did they find you? What would they ask you need to do? What was your job description? And what did you find when you went there? I found them because you found them. I found them. You kind of me had tanks so poorly that my business was not doing well. And I was reaching out to find out

what was going on. You're living in New York at the time. I was living on Long Island at the time. Okay. They were literally the only person on the planet that would cut me a check at that point. Why is that? Just the economy. Okay. I was putting out applications and getting no response. This is post 2008-2009 market 10 38% tough times. The economy's bad. Got it. Correct. I had two children to feed and was going to take any contract from any of those going to cut me a check. I absolutely did not want to go to the South Pole station.

I did not want to spend a winter there. I did not believe you could have functioning plumbing as a plumbing and heating specialist. I thought this was all like a joke. I couldn't believe what was going on, but I was going to go take the check. Just I had no fondness for Raytheon. I did a short stint after high school in the United States submarine service. I learned what Raytheon is really about, which is killing people. They love making weapons. I mean, that's their bread and butter. So I was pensive about being employed directly by them and I went regardless. I kept my eyes and ears open. I was like a sponge the entire time that I was there. I knew that they had to be lying about something

if Raytheon was involved and blowing me hold after quite a few years. I figured out what was really going on. So why you're taking the job, you're skeptical about them, but because you need the income, you're willing to take the job because I got to take care of my family, my two kids. That's kind of what your mindset is.

Yes, sir. Okay, so now you go there, what do you see, what was it like, where were you living, what was your days looking like, sleep pattern, work, you know, climate, how did you just do it? Was family back in time, kind of give us a little bit of that. When I first showed up in Antarctica, it was the summer season, and we were staying in what are called James Ways, which are these Korean war era tents that I was assured that the one that I was sleeping in had probably gotten more shelved than any other tent through

the whole time in Korea. It was very cold. When I landed, I think it was minus 50 degrees Fahrenheit. And the environment, I would say right off the bat was obviously probably one of the most compartimentalized facilities that I had ever shown up to. And I knew it was going to be a trip trying to figure out what was really going on. The science folk there, which I've seen this in other facilities as well, they are very egocentric. It's very easy to rub the back of a scientist that you're doing a great job. You're going gonna save the world. Everything here is to support what you are doing. But I started noticing that every scientist

was saying the same story to me. You know, every time I would take the key, open the door, walk into a compartment, discuss with them what they were doing in there. I kept hearing, you know, this is the most important work at the facility. Everybody here is to support what I'm doing. It's okay. I hear you loud and clear. And I go to the next room, I hear the same thing,

and I started to paint this picture in my own head that everybody here is bamboo-zled. Nobody here has a clue what's actually going on, but they sure believe that they're the most important thing here. So what was actually going on? What do you think was actually going on? Directed energy weapons platforms operating under the false pretenses of science. That's what's actually going on at the South Pole Station. There are technologies and weapons-grade technologies on this planet that the average citizen cannot even begin to wrap their brains around. And that's why I'm speaking out. That's my motivation is that we, the people of this planet, are obligated to leave it better than we found it for our children.

And if we have no idea the disaster that we were handed, we're not in a position to rectify the problem. So I'm trying to bring everybody's information up to reality to, I guess, match the understanding of the foe of the people. I mean, there's a lot going on in the world right now that's not actually to the best interest of the average mortgage payer. It's no question about that. It's a very weird economy today, but I want you to go again deeper. Okay, so these technologies they're working on,

what they're doing, is it just purely they're making advancement and progress? Like they're just innovation. We're just advancing doing more things, or is it a dark side to it where they want to control us? Because it's very easy to jump to conclusion and kind of say, man, they're trying to control us,

they're trying to do this, they're trying to, okay, great, I think there's a sec that wants to do that. But maybe they're trying to just find a way to advance. You're thinking their motives are negative. Why do you think that? A, because they're secret. Okay. It's not transparent.

Because they're secret. Yes, they're their motives, their actions are secret. So to me, that speaks volumes right off the bat. If transparency was involved, I'd be a lot less concerned. But when things like the Christ church earthquakes occur, and that is secreted away, that was South Pole Station. That was the start of the Ice Cube neutrino detector. The season that I was there it went from construction to operations and maintenance. And when they first operated it, they caused two accidental earthquakes in Christchurch, New Zealand. So this is weapons grade stuff. Since that time, we've had leaders, American leaders themselves,

multiple times. Forgotten. Other nation states with earthquakes if they didn't get in line. Those nations didn't get in line and then they received earthquakes. So this is stuff that's happening in real time right around this for people that are paying attention. Nations that didn't get in line, they got earthquakes. Turkey was one of them. The big Turkey earthquake. Joe Biden made a direct threat to them about sending them an earthquake. And then they got an earthquake when they didn't listen. Joe Biden said you're gonna get an earthquake. Correct. Just recently with this

whole Israel homosib-debacol, I apologize I don't watch the mass media that often, but somebody had sent me a link where I believe it was some leaders in Iran that stated that if they invaded Gaza and full force and stuff, that they would deliver a huge earthquake. Iran would deliver a huge earthquake. If my memory serves me correctly, can you look this up Rob to see about? So Joe Biden in a speech says you're gonna get an earthquake or to Turkey. And this is kind of what I'm getting at

is that we're not the only faction with this technology. Nation states are puppets for powers that are greater than that. Is it at this point public where everybody knows that the weapon to create earthquakes is available to everybody or not still private? It's still relatively private. To the best of my knowledge, I'm the only one discussing this. When did Biden say he's going to give Turkey an earthquake?

I guess it would have been a couple of weeks before they got it. And he said that in a speech like public video camera out there, we can see it. Why'd love to see that, Rob, if you can find this. Okay. So then Iran threatens for an earthquake. And you're saying as recent as like the net last two weeks. Yes, this was within a couple weeks. Okay. So for me, a part of that I wonder if that's real because some events have happened before a massive election cycle or something, it's like that was the time ago, that was very weird, right? Like, even the Sandy, the hurricane that hit, you know,

where Chris Christie and Barack Obama, this was October to November 2nd of 2012, election was a 6th. And that brought the country together because they saw Chris Christie and Obama and boom, election is done with, he wins. Second term. So you're saying that these types of things can happen, countries have access to do that as a method of a weapon. Now what do you need to create an earthquake?

How technical of a process is it? Not that technical at all, for my understanding. The folks that I've spoken to, both inside and outside of the program, in specifics to the ice cube neutrino detector. The statement was made that because there's 5,160 of what are called DOM, these digital optimal modules embedded in the ice, think of them simply as micro transmitters, but now working together. So it's a phased array transmitter. And they clarified that at the fault line, where earthquakes, you know, where the faults are always in displeasure of each other almost, it doesn't take much added energy to push them over the edge. They're constantly always looking to make an earthquake at certain points on the planet. So certain points, it's actually really

easy to initiate an earthquake if you have a delivery mechanism. And that's the ice cube neutrino. Yes, the ice cube neutrino detector transmits. Can I play this clip for you to get a reaction to see if this is what you're talking about? That's a DOM right there. Can you can you yeah go ahead. I've just typed out to the ice cube neutrino observatory. It's head inside. This is the biggest scientific project going on here at this alcohol. And it's basically built so we can detect high energy particles. Neutrinos that originated from outside our solar system. This right here is what one of the optical detectors looks like. There are over 5,000 of these very

over a mile deep in the ice right below us. So right now I'm right outside the server room in Ice Cube laboratory. I've got to wear an electric static discharge jacket to make sure I don't shock any of the components there. So all this data comes up through these cables, through the towers on each side of Ice Cube, comes through here, it's fed into the servers. So this is the server,

you see all the servers? Yes. All the data coming up from this. So anybody ask how much processing capacity that is? How much is it? I have no idea. It seems to be unmeasurable by most people. They look at that. That was one row of servers.

There's many roads of them in there. The fact that the ability to keep that place cool requires them to open a louver to the exterior temperature at the South Pole in the winter time. That's part of my job is to walk out to that building every day to make sure that the louvers would open so they could let the cold in from outside

to keep those servers from overheating. Because of how hot it is in there. Now, I'm not a mathematician when it comes to these levels of BTU input, but someone can do the calculation. If it takes minus 80 degree temperatures to come into your space to offset for your temperature build, But someone can do the calculation. If it takes minus 80 degree temperatures to come into your space, to offset for your temperature build, there's a lot of processing going on, a lot of computing.

I'm learning a lot about quantum computing and the need to chill. And this is not even your specialty. This is not even my specialty, but this is observational. So 5,000 of these, one, how much does one of those equipment pieces cost, you know? I don't know that number, but I do know that the overall cost for the entire ice cube neutrino detector project was an absurd number from a tradesman point of view. It was, it was something to the tune of like $500 billion.

$500 billion. It's an absurd number. It was an absurd number. And who invested in today, the US government? I was in the National Science Foundation, cut the check. I know that they work with the University of Wisconsin. What I also know is that they are making moves to take that facility and make it 10 times the size

of what it is currently. Make it 10 times what it is currently. What in the ice right currently is the largest telescope on the planet they're about to make it ten times bigger let's presume it's ten times the cost are we gonna get ten times the return on investment what is the return on investment on something like this because from what's primary position it doesn't seem like it's worth the science at the cost that they're providing it.

But if you were to say, no, it can deliver earthquakes on all of our enemies, no, it can input thoughts into all the people on the planet. Well, that's some value added investment at that point. So out of all the places in the world, how many places have that? None. Is that the only place? That's the only facility. Why is it only there?

Why is it that anarched because the best place for, like the only facility. Why is it only there? Why is it that anarkthica is the best place for? Like for example, if somebody says, why is it that Napa Valley is one of the best places to create wine? Well, because the biggest plus minus of temperature, it goes very high, and it's got a big drop off. For most people, the drop is like this. Okay, that math, I get it. Why is anarkthica the ideal place to build that? I believe it's a multifaceted answer because there's for the presented reasons and then the secondary and tertiary reasons. So primary reason being a neutrino detector, the benefit is that the doms are embedded in the ice, which is basically crystal clear.

So they get an unobstructed view of the neutrino activity when the neutrino impacts the nucleus of a water molecule, which is the ice there, you get a reaction. One is a blue flash, now it's chair and clock radiation, and then the nucleus and the neutrino are destroyed and you have a muon ejected as the remaining particle. The blue flash being in the ice is why the location matters,

because it's the only place you can get that much ice with that much clarity. The other consideration is that this technology in the search for neutrinos, I'm learning from speaking with other folks that exotic propulsion engines, whether you wanna call them UFOs, UAPs, off planet on planet hours,

there's whomever seem to eject neutrinos also. So, the southern pole of this planet and what we've learned from other off-world activities, be it lunar or other celestial bodies, there's something to be said for the ease of entering and exiting the magnetosphere of any celestial body from the southern pole. So it's my belief that the location has also to do with it being utilized as like an air traffic control center for these more exotic propelled vehicles.

What is the conditions there since the Antarctica is not owned by a single country, right? And anybody can be there. What are some interested countries that have presence right now in Antarctica, especially when you were there in 2010-2011? Obviously all of the signers of the Antarctic Treaty seem to be in kuhuts somehow. I think that it's kind of a pay-to-play situation that if you want to get into the treaty, then that'll get you involved. But I think that we're going to start to see things transition because the anonic treatise about to expire.

And I think this is going to be a very interesting time because when you say that people don't own it, it's true. But people are also not following the treaty in and so far as inspecting other people's facilities. So it's kind of like a like a don't ask don't tell situation. Everybody seems to be up to no good, but nobody wants to discuss it. I worked with a gentleman up on the north slope of Alaska. He was a cook and he had told me that he was also at one point hired by

Ray-Hon Polar Services to go on what's called a cat train, which is a cat short for caterpillar vehicles, track vehicles. They pull all their gear with them and meander about the continent under the pretense of science. He told me they had him sign in NDA. He told me he didn't give a damn what are they going to do to him. And he told me how what they were actually doing was looking to place missile silos. They were surveying to place missile silos, which are completely against the Antarctic Treaty. The whole continent is just a weaponized facility for every nation, but nobody's adhering to the treaty. Every nation agrees, well, you can come check our facility if you want. We can come check our facility if you want. But nobody is

doing that. You know what this makes me think about. So let's just say, let's just say you're getting a hair transplant, okay? And Turkey is apparently the number one place for hair transplant. The reason why I noticed, because one of our clients came, that we're consulting for, they run a big surgeon at a university unit, what they're doing, and some of the clients they're tied to is hair transplant, Turkey's a place to be. Great.

So imagine you travel to Turkey, and you therefore, week to get the transplant in place. And then there's 20 other people under. Let's just say it's an expensive place. And you're like, oh shit, you weren't that movie. Damn, this guy's also getting a transplant. Oh, you're a retired basketball player. Oh, what are you doing here, right? All these people are there. Everyone knows you're there for what? Transplant. You go see a therapist. You're at the number one therapist. He's a grand in hour. She's a grand in hour. It's four billionaires.

You're sitting in the room like, damn, there's two other guys in this room here. I know these guys from Fortune. Here's a CEO of that company. Here's a CEO of that company. You're seeing what the other guy is doing. Where's going to leak? What the motive is of being there.

So if these guys are all in Antarctica and they're building technology for earthquakes that everyone has access to. It's not kind of like a, you know, a weird understanding to say, so you got the technology to give me an earthquake, I got the technology to give you an earthquake. It's kind of a weird dynamic, isn't it? But this is the dynamic that we need to start bringing the average mortgage payer into consideration thereof. It's very peculiar that there are certain factions that take turns with the trigger to such

a device. Yeah, I have a hard time with this because I just Google right now Biden. Rob, did you find anything with Biden given a speech on Turkey? I don't find anything either. Fair enough. Yeah, I don't find anything either. Fair enough. Yeah, I don't find anything either. Because for me, so you know what it makes me think about, we've had a lot of people on the podcast that will reach out.

And it'll be stories about, you know, I used to do this. What a freaking story. I'd love to break it with you. And you know, everybody wants to break a story, right? Everybody wants to break a story. And they'll come and they'll give the story and ta-da-da-da-da. And we're like, what a fascinating story. And I'm always there like, yeah, I don't know if this guy

is really trying to, is telling the truth, or if he's just bullshitting his way out there and telling the story. You, Rogan, for example, we're talking about earlier, right? Hey, this guy's a plumber and he's talking about, there's a, you know, what do you call it? You know, whistleblower and you know everything that's going on in Antarctica. This guy's a bullshit, there's guys full of it.

He doesn't what he's talking about. The split between audiences that, you know, I ask about, I have friends that are CIA, FBI, we have friends from all over the place. We've talked a lot of different people. Say, well, sometimes cases like this is this. I think this guy is just one guy's looking you up a little bit more. Maybe this is this. Maybe that's that. It's very easy to be skeptical about what you're saying

because when you make a claim saying Joe Biden said he's going to have that earthquake, and there's zero documentation online that says that. Don't you kind of lose credibility when you say that? No, not at all. It just means someone didn't finally get. And I could also be wrong in that capacity. But that's the thing that I can document.

But that's a pretty big accusation to make that immediately causes you to lose credibility to zero. Not in the slightest. You don't think so. No, not at all. So here's what I love to do. Here's what I love to do. I would would love before I go live, I give you the opportunity. We're going to go live with the center of you, but I want to give you the opportunity. Since you're

going to be able to find the link that Joe Biden said, I may not be able to find the link. But then how do you make that kind of a claim to say Joe? That's not what I'm basing my experience on. That's a detail. Brother, that's a big detail. You know, it's a bigger detail. What's that? That I have documentation from the Ice Cube Nutrino detector that states that it transmits.

That's factual. That's right on my website in the archive section, the document that comes right out of the manufacturer's specifications. That says what? That says that each of the domes can transmit up to 2047 vault each. That's referenceable in real right now. Okay. So what does that mean to the average person?

What does that mean? That they're lying that it doesn't just receive that it also transmits. Okay. And which means what? Which means? Which means that we're in trouble, that they're lying first and foremost. Okay. And that people need to inquire as to what is it transmitting. I'm suggesting the stuff that I've looked into, but apparently a simple faux pas on the

unavailable link brings everything into question. Okay. Can we pull that up on the website? If you tell Rob Wordset, I'd love to call it. Absolutely. My website's deciphering.tv and the archives section of that website, you'll see what's referred to as DOM document. And that comes straight out of the manufacturer specifications from the University of Wisconsin that built the device.

So it's public information. It's public information. Why is that a device. So it's public information? It's public information. Why is that a big deal if it's public information? Because it actually means that it's been there the entire time and no one looked. Okay, so if it's been there, what's our threat if they've known? That it's the fact that they have access to, they've had access to creating earthquakes

for a long time except we've not known about it. They might have had it before this device by some other means, but I can only attest to what I've discovered and what I've learned from the crew that I worked with. Okay. So, okay, so let's set that aside. Okay, the fact that they have, you know, they're working on technology to be able to transmit

or be able to create earthquakes in different parts and what happened in New Zealand to those two churches where the earthquakes happen or your claim in the earthquakes that happened in Turkey or even the earthquake that you're saying Iran said you know they could cause you're saying that's also public information with Iran saying they're going to create turrets. I did actually witness that news event with the Iranian threat and I apologize I believe it was the Iranian officials that said it but I could be wrong But I witnessed somebody saying it just the other day. Rob, can you look that out to see if Iranian officials said earthquake about, you know, what happened?

Okay, so what other experiences did you have while you were there or post? Did you, you're one year with Raytheon when you did that? Did you continue working with them afterwards? And if not, what did you do afterwards? I did not continue working with them afterwards and other item of intrigue while I was present at the South Pole Station was when I discovered that the ELF system, which is another directed energy weapons platform, was not de-energized and defunct. It was energized and functional. So these are two weapons grade electronic systems that I discovered were operational at the South Pole Station.

Regardless of whatever links can be found today. So this is ELF. ELF, extra low frequency. Okay. To communicate with submarines and itself is questionable in its other multifaceted things that people claim that type systems can do. Okay, so let's give you credit. When it comes on to earthquake for Iran, October 10th, Iran's foreign minister warns Israel from Beirut.

It could suffer a huge earthquake. Iran's foreign minister has called on Israel to stop attacks on Gaza, warning that the war might expand on other parts of the Middle East, if he has a ball of joins about it. Can you type in if Iran has technology to cause earthquakes? Because now that is a very interesting story to see if they can do something like that. How long can we have the technology to cause earthquakes? I wish I knew the answer to that, but what it appears is that by the time the civilian population becomes aware

of an existing technology, the military industrial complex has typically been using it for no less than 40 years. Military industrial complex has been using it for no less than 40 years. That seems to be pretty standard. Raytheon, Boeing, you know, you're talking about all the other guys, you know, general dynamics,

they've been using it for less than 40 years, at least 40 years. It seems to be the case. Okay, so how much deeper have you gone on this? Or are you somebody that's just coming out and saying, here's what's going on, rest of the world, go search it, or no. Here's what's going on, I talked about it,

here's what I know about it. This is who's behind it. This is how they're doing it. These are the events that took place. What other information do you have that would be good for the rest of the world to know? To answer your question, I think I'm in both positions. I'm challenging people to do the same research that I'm doing because the more I look into it, the more I'm finding. What I'm suggesting people do now, rapidly, is start paying attention to the people in proximity around you, start learning what the symptoms are of individuals being negatively impacted by direct energy weapons systems. Because this is all referenceable.

It doesn't take me to let you know that your family's friends and neighbors are being negatively impacted. You can check out for yourself. Okay. That's good. Well, we will do that. But since you're here and just just kind of like what you've been a part of, what else do you know that we would benefit from knowing? What else do you know that we would benefit from knowing? No thyself. One of the biggest things with this technology is what I call invasive thoughts. So what we're about to see commercially, you're in the business savvy world. The general population is about to get sent out for sale, what is called bone conducting

technology, right? Headphones that go in your ear but don't radiate the sound through the atmosphere instead that direct them immediately to your inner ear and they cause a reaction with the bones in there, which is effectively transporting a voice into your head. This is the technology that I'm talking about. What they're going to confuse people on is to make them think that this transducer, this technology needs to be on your head for it to work. Well, the reality is that we've shown that these transducers and these technologies that are patented in existing for decades can accomplish the same bone conducting transmission at much greater distance, which is the definition of putting a voice in someone's head. The military called this voice to skull technology, and it's been being utilized by them since the 1960s.

Yeah, and daily maybe that an article on this, Rob, if you can pull this up, see if you're talking about the same thing. Companies will be able to take over your dreams with commercials. I think McDonald's is doing this, you talk about that with Sean Ryan. So pumping commercials into your mind while you're sleeping. Is that kind of what you're talking about? Absolutely. Yes. It's it's it's it's in the same ballpark for sure. Whether it's a commercial as a voice, so to say, or you know, me as a voice, but either way, the technology is the same. It's to remotely input information into someone's head. I mean, for me, okay, let's just say that is gonna be out there or it's out to our ready. Companies for profit, I almost don't mind it if you want to just do it for profit. Let's just say McDonald's wants to be in a big Mac last time I had a big Mac with September

of 1999 when I got out of the army. I threw up. I'm like, I can't do this anymore. And I still love big Macs. Fine, that's gonna do it for profit. They're already doing it anyways. Hey, happy, the brand is, hey, this, the brand is, I need to own an iPhone.

We're already spending a bunch of money with different programming that we've been going through, right? What I'm concerned about is programming coming from a government or an organization that wants to control us and that wants the populace to buy into ideas that make zero sense. Like when it happened like the whole planet

all decided to wear a mask at once? Yeah, you know, yes, it happened. I wonder if that could have been applied through technology that I'm discussing. So did it though. I would say yes, I would say I observed it. Yeah, that the technology that I'm laying at everybody's feet, I would say that that supports what I'm saying. I don't think that the whole that I'm laying at everybody's feet. I would say that that

Supports what I'm saying. I don't think that the whole planet woke up one day and shared the same thought on a mask Because they don't wake up on any day and share a thought on anything. How do they do it? Through the application that what you just said earlier through repetition through exhaustion, through finances, putting people, they have this old dialed in. This has been going on for years, so I'm not using this. Oh, and this has been going on for years. This is just an added layer.

Okay, but the part I'm curious about is there anything that they're using that's a technology form outside of just constant repetitive commercial CNN, MSNBC, ABCA, mask, mask, mask, mask, mask, mask, mask, mask, mask, I'm like, I gotta wear mask, COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, you're gonna die, you're gonna die, you're gonna die, you're gonna die, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death, death,

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You hated America, right? It's a terrible country. You're seeing videos right now on what their brainwashing. Every country brainwashes their populace. They have to do it. This country is this. Russia is the best. You know, Iran is the best.

The US is the best. Whatever it is. That's a method that's happening. You working at Raytheon, the one year, okay, an Arctic, you picked up what you picked up, outside of the things that we've talked about so far, anything else that maybe you came across that seemed a little bit fishy, minus what we've talked about so far with mine control earthquakes? The air traffic control stuff I I think, is important to consider.

And I think to double down on the mind control, because when you're saying that brainwashing has been around for a while, well, that's a very fair statement. But to gloss over the idea of having that voice put personally into your head. I don't think you're really understanding the weight of that dilemma. It would be like if that repetition, now if I could take an idea and have it repeat in your head in your voice,

it's one of the most powerful things out there that people have not really, truly considered. If I wanted to manipulate you, right? On any given day, when a fork in the road presents itself to you, you can sit there and you go patch, I do this, patch, I do that. And it's almost like a conference call happens in your head amongst yourselves.

Do I go left? Do I go right? But somebody else can listen into your feedback conversation. And have input. Now, what if I could, in your voice, say, Pat, you better make it right. You know it's the right thing. Do you think that technology exists?

I know that technology exists. This is what I'm trying to impart upon you. The technology for me to be in a middle of a big decision that I got to make. So, my name is Putin. I'm in the middle of a decision to say I'm sick and tired of NATO coming closer to the East. They keep talking. They don't want to do anything. In July, June of this year, NATO said, hey, let's accelerate the process of getting Ukraine to be part of NATO. Once you do that, if I attack them Article 5, NATO needs to attack Russia to job responsibility that they have. I know what they're doing.

Should I press the button or not? These people that have access to the power could put the thought and put and said to say, press the button right now. All day long. Your legacy's on a Gorbache of Wands that I've do. All day long, people have this power. Many factions have this technology. It doesn't mean he's going to listen.

Just like when we have brainwashing on television, it's repetition. It's an effort. It doesn't mean they're gonna do it. It's not direct muscle control, but this is why I call it an invasive thought. It's pretty powerful once you consider it. Yeah, I'm trying to see to outside of the typical way that we know, you would need, would you need tools for me to be carrying for you to be able to do that? Or I don't need to have anything on me for you to do that.

For example, let me explain what I'm asking. Okay, I have a phone. This thing's got a camera on it. This thing's got a mic on it. The thing's got a mic on it. Is there a possibility that Apple is listening to our conversation right now? Sure, of course, there's a possibility. Is there a possibility that when I go to the bathroom,

or if I go take this thing in the shower and I put it like this camera, maybe somebody caught me on camera while I'm getting to the shower? Sure, there's a possibility, okay fine. Is there a possibility that that could be reported to the CIA, to the DI, to a secret intelligence agency that maybe Apple has a contract that we're not aware of?

Sure. Could there be a possibility that when these things were designed in China and China put a technology in there that's so small, that's so minute, that even Apple people cannot see to inspect the product that they're producing, that China now is getting all the intel from us because China is the, we sell more iPhones to China than any other country in the world. I think iPhone has 24% of market

share in China, US is 56%, but they have it in China. So if they make it in China, maybe China puts something in here for our solicitor today. Okay, great. Tracking. Can somebody tell if I'm on the 40 5 freeway in LA next week at 4 o'clock in the afternoon or if I have my iPhone with me? Sure. All of that stuff, as weird as it sounds, it's believable. But say, I don't have anything on me. Not my phone, not my watch, not a ring,

not anything that somebody can tie to it, nothing. Okay? How can somebody put a thought in my head without me having something on me? How do you do that? A, you are a series of your own thoughts and electrical impulses. Okay. So you are a frequency. You can be scanned, you can be observed, and you can be tracked by that in and of itself by greater technologies than a simple cell phone. So similar to before, like I was discussing, with the bone conducting technology that they can transmit from great distance to place a frequency into you, they can just as easily

track from great distance, very specific frequencies. The one known as Patrick Bet David, you're the only thing putting that frequency out. So I'm helping you be able to think what I'm thinking and what decisions I'm about to make. That could be looked at it that way as well, through setting an AI on you for observation, they can learn you.

And then that way, the manipulations in your voice can be extremely personalized. You're not talking about deep fakes, you're not talking about voices because right now there's technology that we looked at a couple weeks ago that my own voice speaking in Russian, my own voice speaking in Farsi, that's already, being in Farsi, that's all already available. That's not. But yes, so you're supporting what I'm saying when you discuss that these technologies are around. Well, there's a big difference between that

and me being able to be a 22 year old guy who's in love with a girl, who's a girl everybody wants to be with, and you know the whole, what do you call it? Americans that cute, is that what it's called? The cute but hits and boom, she falls in love with you. Okay, for me to sit there and have the access to this technology and say, the guy in the red shirt to the right, sitting at the bar is the guy you have to marry and he's the love

of your life and God put him in your life. That's your guy. You're going to have four kids with that guy and one of them is going to be your president. Go approach him. Everything you do is to have four kids with that guy and one of them is going to be a president. Go approach him. Everything you do is to be with this man. You mean to tell me I can put a thought, technology is out there for me to get a girl to be thinking about something like that? You can apply the thought, but you can't guarantee the outcome.

That she'll flip and decide to come to me and talk to me. Right. But imagine if you could keep repeating this information. It's like any other brain, any other technique or technology that exists. But this is not a technology. This is what you're talking about. We're remote viewing this what you're talking about. These are two different things.

Remote viewing is a technique that has nothing to do with the technology I'm discussing. What do you need to build this technology? What do you need to build this technology? What components do you need to combine to build this technology? For example, we're talking about microchips here that they semi-conductor chips. Okay, and why so many people are fascinated by Ukraine? Well, you know, there's different levels to microchips, semi-conductor chips you make. China is one

of the competitors that makes semi-conductor chips. There's one problem. They make the chips that are the easiest to make. So it's like they make the shittiest chips that people sell for two cents, three cents, four cents. They don't make the real expensive chips. Okay. So now if you go to the countries that make the most expensive chips, I want to say Netherlands or one of those places that makes the most expensive chips.

And there's just one piece that you need, neon. And what country produces a lot of neon? It's Ukraine that produces a lot of neon. Okay. So I need a little bit of neon. I need Ukraine, that produces a lot of neon, okay? So I need a little bit of neon, I need a little bit of this, I need a little bit of this to be able to build all the best microchips out there. And to be able to do that, I need access to this,

this what technology combined together allows me to be able to inject a thought in your mind when you're about to make a decision. I would imagine it just has to do with, like I said earlier, the bone conducting technology, which is apparently about to become as cheap and accessible as anybody who wants to buy a set of ear pods. There's no, okay.

Okay. So you think the idea right now to read people's thoughts, people's thoughts, that technology exists? Absolutely. To read people's thoughts. Absolutely, you're currently right now just having a series of electromagnetic impulses fire in your head.

That's absolutely readable and at distance. And at distance. Absolutely. So somebody can think right now what I'm thinking about. Good, bad, ugly. They could read every single thing that's going on in your head. And they can put a thought in my mind to help me influence a decision on Baltimore. They could they could seek a team of AI computers on you to access every thought that you're considering through just like we can consider all these social platforms. People are constantly putting the information in there. So it starts to paint a picture of who

you are and where your head is at. So is this kind of you going to the Havana syndrome site? Absolutely. Okay. So the Havana syndrome was what when you know military government personnel that are close to they kept having these headaches, they felt like somebody was doing something to them. Well a whole litany of things. Yeah. One of the things that they glaze over, the Department of Defense put out information to their personnel because this is their responsibility to them.

They discuss on the list of Havana syndrome symptoms that these people are reporting weird noises. Well, that's a really cool way of saying noises. Tricking noises. They're not being as direct and transparent as they should be, but what these people are reporting is that they're hearing voices. That's the weird sounds. It's very legit. It's very real. The technology is there. We're about to get it from Sony Panasonic and people are going to mount it in their ears, but this is the technology. It's real. The technology is going to become mainstream where you can impose your thoughts on me without even talking to each other.

You can't. They're not going to tell you that part, but they're going to give you voice to skull technology under the veil of something else. Just like we get all kinds of technology under the veil. You call this a phone earlier. I'd call it a weapon. It's weaponized technology that was rolled out under false pretenses. One of the things that the phones can do now is pay attention to your bio rhythms, your breath rate, your pulse rate, under the false pretenses of it being something benign and good for you. But what if I told you that every single time you looked at your phone and every single post

that it can get an eye movement off of it? Know exactly what you're looking at. And now it also knows your reaction to that. That's believable. Absolutely. And it's hand held technology right now. We get that. So they know that if something gets you excited, gets you depressed. Totally, yeah. They're already learning. They're already paying attention. So now through reading that, understanding you and a desire to manipulate, they're in a very powerful and privileged position. I told like one night, we're at Palm Springs.

I'm working on this book. That's a fiction book that's coming out about a secret society. And we spent six hours researching nuclear bombs and nuclear weapons for six hours. By the end of it, I'm like if somebody's following what we're searching right now on Google, they're going to be worried that this guy from Iran is up to something. We're just working on a fiction book. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, these guys are probably thinking some some massive new, briefcase new. Briefcase new.

I identify who these guys at this country club that's working on this book. What's he doing? But that part, fully believable. I get that part. The part about putting thoughts and entering my mind and saying, what's he thinking about right now? He's about to make a decision.

Should he do this? He's about to make that shit. He's about to give me some, should he file bankruptcy and I should get a divorce and I should do this. I should do this. all these thoughts that they can get into someone's mind to say, should you do this? And then put that thought, I don't know about that one. That's a very interesting one.

I do believe in that. Consider it a weapon that your foe has. Hypothetically. Who's my foe? Someone who is against your best interest. We'll just keep it in vague terms. Consider it as an epero-noi that they may have a weapon like that, or it's a factual, they have it, whether you like it or not.

Those are two different things. I don't see the reason to add the term paranoia in this hypothetical. It would be how about just lack of naivete. On my end. Absolutely. So, but there's a difference between, like, for example, why do atheists have a hard time believing in God? Because some of them are wired to say,

I have to see you to believe it. You believe in God? You believe in Jesus? Show to me, I wanna go out to see who Jesus is, okay? There's a, no, this is part of faith. You have to believe in something you have not yet seen. But you're saying, faith is not required for this. This exists is what you're saying.

All of the supporting components for this technology are already patented, already existed, and for the most part, the higher end aspects are also patented and exist. It's just a matter of me stating that the South Pole Station is operating under false pretenses here that is the harder thing to prove. The technology is irrefutable. Who owns it? Who owns the patent?

I wouldn't know. But you know there's a patent though. But you don't know who owns it. Didn't. Don't recall reading that line. Would it be a private? Would it be a government? Is it a private entity like a Raytheon Northman government?

You can do remember correctly, there were three very important patents that came out from the United States Navy and the person that they gave credit to. It was a fake name. It was a salvatore país. Look, that one up. Three patents from the United States Navy brought to us that we were told by... Like a pseudonym? Salvador, Pais. Yeah, if you translate it in Spanish, it just comes out to savior of the country. If you translate Salvador Pais, it comes to savior of the country. Savior of the country. So you ask me who holds the patents? Does it really matter? Is

that really the more important question, or is it more important to understand that they exist? Is it more important to, instead of calling someone paranoid, to actually brood for a moment on the very real possibility that this is what's going on? Can you go back to Salvador Pais to see who he is? Just go back to that real quick. So this is what is an American zoom in a little bit so I can read it. It's an American aerospace engineer inventor currently working on the United States Space Force. He worked formally for Naval Air Station. He, his patent application for the US Navy attended attracted attention for the potential energy producing applications, but also down about their feasibility and speculation that there may be scams, pseudo

science, or disinformation intended to mislead the United States adversaries. This is reality. And you're a plumber? Absolutely. It's very hard to believe that. Why is that? You have prejudices against plumbers? No, I'd love to see you fix one of our plumber guts on issues right now.

I can fix every one of them. You think so? I know so. As a plumber who all of a sudden is interested in things like this, I got to tell you, man, it's very weird. Fair enough? Yeah. It's very weird for a plumber to go from that background to all of a sudden having information on things like this.

How do you make your money now? What are you still planning right now? Is that so? I do maintenance work in Alaska. You do maintenance work in Alaska right now. Okay, why go from where you were at long Island to Alaska? Is there anything linked to this or not at all? That's what you chose to move to.

Cold weather working skills. Once I was all done at the South Pole Station, the economy had not recovered in New York. I started inquiring to the crew members about me. Where can I go with my cold weather skills? They directed me to the north slope of Alaska. You ever seen a movie, the usual suspects? A long time ago. Do you know guys are so say? I don't remember the statement. Very interesting guy. But I don't remember the whole situation. You give me vibes of three people.

Okay. So, one of these guys are so sick, which is kind of like, you know, he's so good at telling all the stories and the fact that at all lines up, where you're kind of like holy shit, this is kind of going on. The other one is Gianni Russo. I can listen to Gianni Russo for hours. This guy was in the movie Godfather. The other one is Gianni Russo. I can listen to Gianni Russo for hours. This guy was in the movie Godfather.

He used to date some real legit people. But the story is he told me one time. We had a three hour meeting in New York at his house. He told me he had lunch with Saddam Hussein and he had this, which the Shah and he went and met with Pablo Escobar and was going to kill him eventually. Pablo liked him from the movie Godfather. He said, stick around, let's have drinks. He told me he hooked up with Marilyn Monroe at 16 years. I mean, the amount of stories he told me, I said, listen, Johnny, if 10% of the stories

you're telling me is true, you've lived a freaking ridiculous life. And the other one is also like an element of, you know, who you represent, what you're doing, what your background is, well, a little bit of skepticism of the sia up, or you're like, hey, what if you're trying to distract, but that one is very small because you've only done one show and you're not that public. And it's not actually, did a lot of shows. How many shows have you done? Who have you been on? I've lost count of people that I've interviewed with actually. A lot of more on my website, a lot of more on my YouTube. You've been on. Who have you been with?

I don't think they're big names. I'm Sean as a big name. I'm Sean as a big name. I would say Sean is the biggest guy. Who's the second biggest guy? National Press Club. I went to Washington DC as far as public speaking. Who's the most credible source that wrote about you

or talked about you? Most credible source. Probably Sean Ryan. How about in mainstream media? Oh, nobody. Why not? Because they're doing everything they can to prevent the truth from getting out to the people? National Geographic has done stuff about the Havana, you know, syndrome or... I'd be happy to speak with them. Anything that I've ever tried to do that was mainstream, became edited. I was in two, episode nine of the Alaska Triangle,

where the producers of the show, I believe it was Wild Dreams film production out of England, I think, sent me to catch a can Alaska. The pretense was that they wanted me to investigate reports of unidentified submerged objects. I went out there with the boat captain, the camera crew, myself. We went out, started looking for stuff, wasn't having any luck. Eventually, had all the luck in the world. Found exactly what they sent me out to look for. We recorded everything. Everybody was all cheers and congratulations, mission accomplished.

It's funny that they edited all of that out from the show, though. So what I'm learning is that there are folks that want to talk to me that are looking to assist me in my endeavors and they're few and far between. For the most part, people try to put me on mic to discount what I'm saying, which I find highly interesting because I have no ill motive. I'm not making a nickel off of this. And the only thing I've said is that I'm doing this for we the people of this planet,

because we deserve better and so do our children. And trust me, that's the part where you gain a lot of credibility with me because you didn't ask for nothing. And it's not like, we can't talk about this. And that's off topic and that's this. You've not said nothing. You're just like anything you want. No, you said anything. Again, I'm giving talk about this. And that's off topic and that's this. You've not said nothing. You're just like, anything you want.

No, you said anything. Again, I'm giving you credit. The fact that your approach makes me sit there and say, you know, and then the only thing that you said, Joe Biden said what he said, maybe Joe Biden said it in a start and you read his mind. Maybe that's what you did. I think that's probably what it was.

You know why that's not true? Why? Joe Biden has no thoughts. Gotcha. Fair enough. Fair enough. So, what's your biggest? Are you optimistic, nervous?

Are you, you know, how are you feeling about the future for all these things that are happening? And what do you stand? I don't feel good about it in the slightest. Really? Why I do what I do. I thought that years ago when I first dumped this information on the world,

I thought that was going to be the end of my obligation. I thought that somebody would take this information, run it up the flag pole for everybody to say, I thought everybody would learn, and we would rectify the problem. I was never so wrong in my entire life. The resistance that I have to sharing this information is disgusting. There are a lot of people in the disclosure community that are presenting themselves

as operating for the behalf of the people. They're liars. I've met these people face to face. I've gone and spoken at conventions. I've been thrown off the tour, so to say, because I would not take my information and screw with it to support other people's BS. As an example, I went to Spoken Las Vegas a few years ago publicly to present this information. There's the first time that I spoke publicly at an event like that. The producer of the event goes by the name of Said Farman, an Iranian. Gotta be careful with those guys, but go ahead. Fair enough. So Said brought me into the situation,

along with his other co-producer, a man who goes by the name of Eric Vaheeler-Datimer. I attended the event, I disseminated my information, and I was told afterwards by these two people that I now had to figure out a way to take my information and make it support the flat earth's sideop, or I'm out. I proceeded to tell them both cleanly and clearly to go fuck themselves that I would have nothing to do with such bullshit. And then from that point forward it became very challenging to garner another event. There are folks like Linda Moulton Howe who's big in the Antarctica topic. I spoke to her like a pre-interview, basically.

She didn't want to hear anything that I had to say because she was very condescending about the fact that I was a plumber. And that because she couldn't understand how that would give me access to information, she was pretty much done with the conversation. When you were in Antarctica, did you ever go explore? When you're hearing about all this stuff,

did you ever go explore and see what's out there? Like the red blood, you know, whatever, you know, the seat that they have or did you go see, look around the Jeb ample time to go explore yourself? I pretty much looked at everything that I could, but now appreciate, I was literally at the South Pole station, 9,300 feet of elevation, zero percent humidity, ruthlessly cold,

painful temperatures. There's nothing there, not at that location. No high end restaurants, not your bad, to be known in a mountain. I mean, I checked every inch of every ice tunnel that I could have access to. I, on an occasion, I, I, I common deer to snow machine when I shouldn't have.

And the coworker and I drove that machine until the South Pole station proper was a teeny little dot on the horizon. Just because I wanted to. Do you see anything? Do you find anything? I saw what I think was Buzz Aldrin's quote, magnificent desolation. Like they say of the moon, there's probably more to observe on the surface of the moon than there is at this outpull. There's nothing there. Would you eat by the way? I just had a

cure for the food. My hat goes off to the culinary crew at the South Pole station. They had some of the worst ingredients in the world to work with and I can't complain about any meal that someone makes for me for free and then does the dishes as well. That was very content with the food there. The ingredients that were down in the ice tunnels were atrocious. As far as I was concerned, there was some dump somewhere where they were about to throw out a bunch of waste food and the Raytheon purchasing agent would say, hold on, don't throw that in the dumpster, I'll give you a dollar. Yeah, I can only imagine that. And by the way, John Kerry, then John Kerry, go there in 2016

and I believe your Chris Edward went there but a bunch of different people have gone there to just kind of explore. There's an absurd amount of dignitaries and very important people on the planet that go to these facilities. And it strikes me as extremely peculiar. These folks are normally in very

kush environments with a lot of protections. Simply going to the South Pole Station puts one in harm's way that can't be removed. If you lose a plane, if you lose anything in that environment, you're gone, that's it. There is no rescue. They never rescued anyone. How bad was turbulence when you were landing? We're taking off. So terrible or known. It wasn't that bad. Okay. It wasn't that bad. It's more of a random mechanical failure that would typically be the issue. Just a random mechanical failure. Like that. That's and that

would that would ruin. That would ruin people disappeared. That would ruin someone like John Kerry. So we have these people on pedestals and they operate from these privileged positions. So it's very interesting to me to have them put in such harm's way. They normally do a lot to protect these folks. Last but not least, harp, the high frequency active or research program. This is something at the University of Alaska Fair

Banks. Yep. How much credibility is it with what these guys can do with heart manipulating weather? I know we talked about it earlier right with Sandy, but how much credibility is there behind that? Tons. Again, there's a very non-transparent program. Non-transparent program. Absolutely. Because people can look up what's possible to be done with harp, even though they don't pretend to be doing it. I actually worked alongside a gentleman who went to the harp facility in Gokona, Alaska, which I've been to the gates of the facility twice.

This gentleman at one point was employed to work on the generators at that facility. I have not spoken to him in depth on this one. I just asked him to come speak to me when he's in town. He agreed to, but this gentleman assured me, knowing the angle that I come from on these things, he said, you're gonna flip out when I tell you how much power they're putting

into the atmosphere. How much? We didn't get to that part of the conversation. He shot it, got it. But he was the actual generator technician. Do they have enough power? Let's just say hypothetical. Let's say my name is Al Gore.

And my name is Kerry. My name is a Madame Secretary Hillary Clinton or Obama, McConnell, Bush, whatever you want to call me. That's powerful of a name. And I'd like to make an argument for why climate change is really happening to bring up the fear of people around the world. Can I suddenly create a bunch of hurricanes

and catastrophic weather storms events around the world to gain more credibility? Absolutely. How would I do that? Would you say utilizing the technologies that exist and making a phone call to whatever factions holding the trigger at the time? Now let's just say,

I know that you have that technology, but I'm your enemy, okay? Or I'm an ally and you keep doing that, and it affects my country. How come no one's called anybody out? Politics at a higher level. Politics at a higher level is more loyal? Well, you're just saying how come? And I would just say that there's a different levels of the

game being played. You know, there are things that happen right before our face every day that just go unnoticed because no one's paying attention to the fact that this does exist. I mean, I'm sure you remember the event on 9-11 in New York. You know what the weather report was the day before? Did you know there was a massive hurricane bearing down on Manhattan for days before the 9-11 event? Do you know where that hurricane was on 9-11? Parked in the ocean. It stopped all- forward progress. Do you remember what the weather was like on 9-11? Crystal clear, not a cloud in the sky. Then the 9-11 event occurred and then look into the weather of what happened to the hurricane. It turned around. If that's not weather manipulation that's

observable that happened years ago, I would just say that people aren't paying enough attention, but these technologies exist. They're being utilized right before everybody's eyes. Hurricane was about to hit, then it fully stops in the middle of the ocean. A few years ago here in Florida, you guys had one of these circumstances where the hurricane stopped all-forward progress and hung out for a few days. What event was around then? I don't recall specifically, but there was within a few years. I remember watching the news and you guys here in Florida had one of these circumstances where the hurricane just decided to park and hang out for a substantial period of time. This is a new activity. This is not something hurricanes have been doing. Could this be where we have the technology to even prevent from hurricane

sitting because we know how to park them? For sure. Yeah. All the above. Yeah. Think of it as having a Nintendo controller for the weather. Well, then that's actually a good technology similar to a nuclear bomb because a nuclear bomb, I don't know if you've seen up in a high more or not, I don't know if you went through and watched it. These guys accidentally develop one of the most powerful weapons in the world, but it's

only been used how many times. And a lot of people have access, not a lot of people, but many countries more than handful have access to it. And they can single-handedly start World War III. There have been nuclear detonations going off almost-stop since the first bomb that went off. Now, were they acts of war? No. Testing.

Call it whatever you want to call it. We've almost had non-stop nuclear explosions since then. And do people ask why on that? What's your birthday? June. June 1. 18th. June 18th.

Interesting. June 18th. This has been very interesting. I gotta tell you, you know, I feel like I played poker for the last hour, 15 minutes and trying to see what you have with your hand. Whether it's a 2-10 pocket aces, pocket jacks, the audience obviously can make a decision for themselves, but one too many interesting stories by a legendary plumber. Okay, I will forever say I met one of the

smartest plumber's and the most interesting plumber's in the world. And we had them on the podcast. This was great. I would say my hand was a royal flush then. Fair enough. Then I got to go all in to see what you have. What I got to do is I want to see you, Jim. Appreciate you for coming out. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. So, thank you for this.

I appreciate it. Thank you. you