PBD Podcast - Exclusive: Andrew Tate UNCENSORED Interview with Patrick Bet-David

Episode Date: September 13, 2022

Patrick Bet-David sits down with Andrew Tate in Madrid, Spain. In an interview that spans nearly 5 hours, they leave no stone unturned. Pat & Andrew discuss his ban, Logan Paul, Elon Musk, modern-...day manhood, and much more. Ask Tate a question or Facetime him on Minnect! You can download it here: Minnect on the App Store: https://apple.co/3eLvPfV Minnect on Google Play: https://bit.ly/3L68rpM Visit Andrew Tate’s official website: https://bit.ly/3Bxiykf Andrew Tate’s Rumble page: https://bit.ly/3Bcu9nl Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. PBD on Instagram:  Patrick Bet-David https://www.instagram.com/patrickbetdavid/?hl=en A special thank you to Club Pasión Habanos for allowing us to shoot at their cigar lounge, check them out on social media here: https://bit.ly/pasionhabanos and their restaurant:  https://bit.ly/elcluballard To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: info@valuetainment.com Valuetainment is a media company founded by Patrick Bet-David. We create a wide range of content from entrepreneurship to sports, politics, and lifestyle with segments involving education, interviews, current events, and other relevant topics. We educate, entertain and empower people from around the world through video, podcasts, live events, and other digital verticals. #pbdpodcast --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 When you have the youth, the masculine youth of the world, thinking for themselves, that's really scary to a quarry, or the biggest fatal mistakes any man or human beings can make. To choke my head off and try and delete me is acid-eyed in itself. Another thing that gives the game away, here's your piece of it. You ain't canceled again, Logan. You're away? Here's your piece 8. Going cancelled again, Logan. You're staying in call like that was main. Hundred percent, the two to pay. The lady of yours that you introduced to us yesterday said this is my wife.
Starting point is 00:00:33 I don't even know if I'm convinced you want to have five lives. And that's a very astute observation to your correct. But I won't believe it. I don't want to believe in things that make me weak. Something was famous man on the internet and then all of a sudden gone from the internet. So today's sit down as a sit down many of you have been asking about for a while and we finally pulled it off. There's been no conversations of what we chance to talk about. He said nothing's off limits. We're talking everything and anything. However
Starting point is 00:01:02 he chooses to answer, I was just going to be on him. Today's guest is Andrew Tate. Many will call him possibly the most popular man on social media. The last six months, nearly 20 billion views on all social media. The most search man on social, we were looking at the list. We put up Biden. We put up Trump, we put up Putin, we put up everybody, and he was up there. Some periods he was above everybody else. And recently he got banned in late August. I think the third or fourth week of August, he got banned late August. And at that time from June to July,
Starting point is 00:01:37 his Instagram account was growing out a hundred thousand followers, new followers on a daily basis, on track to get to 10, 20, 40, 50 million followers on Instagram, suddenly like this, he gets banned. Everybody's wondering what happened. Some have positive thoughts about it. Some didn't have positive thoughts about it. We'll get into that as well.
Starting point is 00:01:54 But take, appreciate you for making the time in. It's good to be spending these few hours with you. Absolutely, I'm glad to be here, guys. Thank you very much for having me, man. So, so let's get right into it. So this banning happens happens and we've had a lot of different people in the Pasqued Band. I'll read some of the people and why they got banned. Sure. And I think the first question we want to get into is what everybody wants to know.
Starting point is 00:02:15 No one still knows. Everything is pure speculation. Trump got banned of all social and also social because of the insurrection. Yeah. Alex Jones promoting and inciting violence, whether it it's Sandy Hook, whether it's Pizza Gate. Eventually they just said we got to kind of cut this off. Mylulianopolis got banned in 2016 from Twitter for inciting harassment of SNL and Ghostbusters star Leslie Jones. Louis Farrakhan was banned for anti-Semitism comments spreading cage. Louis Farrakhan was banned for anti-Semitism comments spreading cage. Rob Kardashian was banned in 2017 for a revenge porn picture of his ex-girlfriend, K-Black
Starting point is 00:02:51 China. Kanye West was banned temporarily for repeated posts that threatened both Kim and Pete Davidson. Rihanna got banned because they called it inciting horningness, believe it or not, that's what it was called. And for posting a topless photo of herself, then she later on came back on, Rose began on Godband in 2017 off Twitter for calling on Godband Affleck for his business relationship
Starting point is 00:03:13 with Harvey Weinstein and I lasted 12 hours. Chelsea Handler in 2014 for posting a new picture, many were upset when she did that, but she did posted. Marjorie Taylor Greene got banned in 2022 for repeated tweets in which she shared false and dangerous info about COVID-19. Oh, false, false and dangerous. That's what they called it. Sorry to interrupt, but yeah, that's very interesting. And if PewDiePie was banned from Twitter for making a joke about ISIS,
Starting point is 00:03:38 okay. So why did Andrew Tate get banned? They did not tell me. They did not send me an email, no correspondence. I certainly didn't break terms of service. I guess that's why they could send me an email and explain why. Nobody told me whether it was YouTube that banned me or meta that banned me. They banned me instantly instantly and forever without any kind of correspondence. They've not told me why. They've not told me why I did. The media machine in synchronization with the ban, we can call that coincidence if you want to believe in such things, came out with some kind of bullshit explanation that I'm misogynistic or some garbage, but the actual social media companies themselves provided
Starting point is 00:04:18 no explanation at all, no correspondence at all, they just deleted me and I was in. Now are you doing anything about it? Are you having your legal team trying to find out why they did that or you're not taking any action right now? I do have a lot of things happening behind the scenes. However, and perhaps I'm becoming optimistic in my old age, but I believe that in due course, the social media companies will realize the mistake they made.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I think that, and like I said, I don't have intimate knowledge of the workings of social media companies, but assuming they are semi-professional to any regard, and that is a big assumption, but let's assume they are professional. That means that when they ban somebody like me, especially the most Google search person on the planet, they must have teams which are analyzing in real time the response to set action, right? They should have people sit in there on the ground analyzing. Now they attacked me with their media machine because first they shut you up so they can
Starting point is 00:05:14 lie about you. So they shut me up. Then they did the massive media push to try and attempt to lie about me. But despite that, the majority of comments regarding me are still positive. The majority of people believe and understand that this ban is unfair. And if these companies have any degree of professionalism, they're analyzing this in real time, and they're understanding that this makes us look very bad. People didn't believe the lie.
Starting point is 00:05:36 People didn't believe what we attempted to smear this man with. Nobody is buying this narrative. And this is going to have a negative effect on us for a very, very long time, because when you're in charge of the world, which they are, as soon as you're no longer seen as just and fair, you're seen as tyrannical. And once you're seen as tyrannical, then there's going to be some kind of mass movement against you. So if I was a social media executive, I would sit and I would analyze the data, and I would say, listen, guys, we will have a monopoly, we want to retain our monopoly let's be smart here being known as tyrannical amongst the public consciousness across the entire planet it's gonna make it very
Starting point is 00:06:10 difficult for us to hold our monopoly for a longer period of time as opposed to being seen to be fair even if we're biased we must be seen as fair sure as soon as we're seen as tyrannical that's when the revolution look at Chowketskou As soon as you're a tyrant, that's when everyone hits the streets. So I think that if they have any kind of serious data monitoring and if they have any kind of serious business professionalism, they are now talking in dark rooms, understanding that this has played out very badly for them. And if they intend on keeping them monopoly
Starting point is 00:06:39 into the future that they need to change something, maybe I may optimize the rules. Who was the first one to take you off? Meta. Meta was first. Meta. Facebook Instagram. Facebook Instagram.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Okay. And then it was a domino effect. Yeah, so Meta took me down. So it's quite interesting, actually. I had a YouTube channel for a while. It was never so large. I had 738,000 subscribers. It took me a long time to build it up.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I got a strike on YouTube, which prevented me from posting. It's got a strike. No big deal. me from posting. It's got a strike. That'll be deal. The next day, Met Up took me down, deleted my Facebook and my Instagram. The press came out at exactly the same time in sync, saying that I'm a misogynistic, dangerous person, that I'm harmful, that I am the reason that the world is not a perfect place. World hunger, you name it.
Starting point is 00:07:23 All my fault. Attacked me across all of this and I thought, okay, let me fill in the message that I can get out on my YouTube, my final message, which I don't know if you guys have seen, I'm putting on free topg.com. Let me fill in my final message explaining how this is unfair and unjust. We filmed it, we produced it, we got it all at AA within 12 hours, had to tell ready to go, but we couldn't post it because the YouTube strike. So we're waiting for the YouTube strike to expire.
Starting point is 00:07:44 A few hours before the YouTube strike expires, guess what happens? They banned it from YouTube. Then they banned me from Discord. Then they banned me from Airbnb. They banned me from Stripe. I can't even remember. It was just emails coming in fast and you could believe. So the Matrix Press is a bant, bant, bant. So Matrix, the so- Oh no, no, the Matrix presses a button. My friend, every app on your phone stops working. Uber, you name it. Uber, stop.
Starting point is 00:08:13 You name it. Wait, you can't use Uber. Well, I can use Uber. You just start a new account, right? But, yeah, I'm sorry, Uber. Catch me. But when your main account on Uber was taken, they take everything.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Everything. You need an effort, all at once. What taken they take everything All at once All at once every single one of them just goes no delete delete delete delete delete and I come at you and they come at you Everything right. Thank you. It process. I am banks UK based banks as well high street banks But I can name satan dare HSBC Barclays etc all the same times I'll know sorry to change we've decided because blah, blah, blah, some bullshit, some letter, closer accounts. So they take all your banking,
Starting point is 00:08:48 they take your payment processing, they go to your social media presence, they take your discord, they take your Skype, they go to your accounts, your belief, you communicate with people, and then they lie about you in the press. And they leave you there, they leave you there to suffer.
Starting point is 00:09:02 They attempt to run out of money. You can understand the social component. All right, these guys are probably all working in unison. When you hear aim at processors, banks, apps like Uber, how are you processing that? No, I mean, that's why he has to do something about it. Because, you know, for me, there's plenty of great lawyers.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Did you hear about what happened with Alex Brennison lately? Alex Brennison? Alex, is it? Yeah, Aaronson Baronson. Aaronson? He's a writer. He was a person, I think he's a writer. I heard he sued Twitter or something.
Starting point is 00:09:30 He sued Twitter. I don't know the exact story now. So he was on Joe Rogan, if you've not seen it, I highly recommend you watch this. So he is saying things about Twitter. As a matter of fact, the tweet that got him in trouble, got him his fifth strike was the following tweet. We can put this up there because I'm just reading what he said. This is a tweet he put out that he said, it doesn't stop infection or transmission.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Don't think of it as a vaccine. Think of it as at best, a therapeutic with a limited window of efficacy and terrible side effects profile that must be those in advance of illness and we want to mandate it in sanity. That's a sweet. So he gets banned. Thanks a lot. Sounds to me in December of last year, which was six months after when Biden said anybody who allows debates of vaccine should be banned or
Starting point is 00:10:24 shouldn't be allowed. Meaning there shouldn't be any of that. So six months after that he gets banned. In April, a judging California, California is a believe it or not, a very big freedom of speech place because they are protesting. A judge that was appointed by Bill Clinton comes in and says, I'm allowing this to go through because typically section 230 that is in place in 1990 it was to protect social media sites and many of these online sites that if you offend
Starting point is 00:10:50 your ex-wife or if you offend your brother has nothing to do with Facebook so they kind of protected themselves but Alex was able to go all the way because it is court judge that was appointed by Clinton not not Obama or Trump, or by Clinton. He goes in, eventually he says, you get to have two people from Twitter to come to court to defend themselves. So he could go to Jack Dorsey. Long story short, they finally lifted it.
Starting point is 00:11:19 He is on Twitter and he's posting heavily talking about the fact that the reason why he got banned is because the government didn't want him on inciting what he was inciting. So the moral the story is when you say something like that, for someone like you, you seem like your methodical guy, you see your, you know, your chess guy, your dad's a chess person, you know, five-time, United Armed Force champion, five time, six times in the end of state, you will play that five years old against 16 year olds. You don't play chess with that being strategic thinking about your next few moves.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Correct. So if you don't do anything and bring lawyers in to the markets, I've interviewed a lot of people who are in the mob, to the market, it sounds like they're right. Absolutely. But if you do and you defend yourself, you're not only doing it for yourself, but you're also doing it for others who maybe don't have your kind of resources to say,
Starting point is 00:12:11 correct. Hey, this guy's willing to stand up. He kind of helped change it off for me. Correct. Because the one case, it was the Sikhs against Facebook. That's the case that helped them out. India years ago, they don't like this Facebook group that had Sikhs. It was a
Starting point is 00:12:25 Sikh Facebook page. So India told Facebook to take them off. Facebook took them off. Then Sikhs sued Facebook. That became the precedence. So somebody like you can potentially set a new one against section 230. Absolutely. I certainly have legal options being explored. And I don't want to say too much on the podcast, but legal options are certainly being explored. We'll see how things progress across the next few weeks. But I have a very strong suspicion I will end up back on the media platforms, or they will offer them back to me. The question now at this point is if I even want them anymore, which is a unique question because a lot of people still believe that you can only have a significant presence in the world with these social media platforms.
Starting point is 00:13:12 That's the source of their power. I believe there's huge pressure behind the dam in regards to the fact that everybody understands that these places are tyrannical and that they control ideas and that they force narratives. And I use my wording as the matrix. I call them the matrix and people say, why do you call them the matrix? And I say because they project a false version of reality in real time that people subscribe to.
Starting point is 00:13:36 If there wasn't an absolute blacklist on all opposing views during COVID-19, that bullshit would never have gone on for as long as it did. It went on for as long as it did, and they managed to purport a false version of reality for so long, because you couldn't discuss the opposing side, which is talked about our friend here who got banned for saying something very sensible and logical.
Starting point is 00:13:56 So when you get huge media companies that can literally alter and reality in real time, by deleting the other side of an argument, they're creating a matrix. That's what I like to call it. So I call them the source of the matrix. So people understand this, and there's huge pressure behind the dam, but the problem is people say,
Starting point is 00:14:11 well, what's the alternative? And I think if someone could pave the way and put a crack in the dam by maintaining massive relevancy despite of a ban and still having a social media platform and presence which is respected on other platforms. I think it's gonna do them significant damage. I think the pressure and the crack together is gonna create something monumental.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And already I've moved to Rumble. I only had 738,000 subscribers on my YouTube after five years of work. Post-Ban, I moved to Rumble, which is a YouTube competitor. Stock price has gone up 36%. And I'm at half a million subscribers in two weeks. So I'm about to surpass the size of my YouTube channel within a month. YouTube stocks
Starting point is 00:14:52 down, Rumble stocks massively up. So all in all, there's other avenues. But we'll see, I certainly agree with you that what they've done to me is massively unfair. They know it's unfair. I think the reason they didn't send me an email or any confirmation of what I did wrong is because they knew they were going to end up in court. And they didn't want to be tied down to their reason. They want to stay fluid and try to make up a reason on the day. I've heard from very reliable sources that their terms of service have changed significantly post my ban.
Starting point is 00:15:21 They've made up new reasons. Post ban, they've made up a bunch of new shit. So it's going to be interesting. But certainly, yeah, there has to be legal ramifications for what they've made up new reasons, post ban, they've made up a bunch of new shit. So it's going to be interesting, but certainly, yeah, there has to be legal ramifications for what they've done. I don't take it personally, but I do take it professionally, and you're right, they were wrong. I have no reason to be banned. My Instagram is just cars.
Starting point is 00:15:36 It's just cars. And a little bit of flexing, there's no politics. There's not even any points of view. I had no strikes. Nothing. It's just a hit piece. So we did it. If there were betting odds, like if we did a poll, why do you think Andrew Tate was banned
Starting point is 00:15:52 from all the social media platforms? And it was misogyny, right? You know, COVID stuff against the government, against system. If you were a betting man, where would you kind of place the odds? I already know. Everybody already knows I was banned, because I talk against the system.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Against the matrix. Just the system in general. The system in general, yeah. I mean, someone had compared me to Socrates, which is a compliment, but he was vilified, he ended up poisoning himself and Athens, and the charge against him was corrupting the youth. If you read about his poisoning and his arrest, they said he was corrupting the youth, but he wasn't corrupting them.
Starting point is 00:16:26 He was inspiring them to challenge authority, he was inspiring them to think for themselves. When they were told something, sort of blindly complying, he said, look, analyze who these people are who are telling you to do X. And I even had a tweet and I put out on my, I've been banned on Twitter forever.
Starting point is 00:16:40 So I've been through 20 Twitter bands. I come back as undercover, whatever. But I've been saying for all, I said often, I said, if you have a point of view that you are very strong in your adherence to, if you truly believe something, you need to sit and analyze whether it's your own personal experience that makes you believe something or if someone else or something else
Starting point is 00:17:00 has convinced you of this. And if they have, you need to then once again, analyze that point of view and analyze who these people are and what they want from you. Do they truly want the best of you? If the news convinces you of something to the point where you're going to argue with your only own family members at dinner table, does the news really care about you more than your family? This is a genuine question. You need to analyze every belief you hold where it came from. And then analyze what their intentions are. And if you start to do that, you look at something like COVID for example, it's an easy one.
Starting point is 00:17:28 You look all the bullshit they were saying and you sit here and go, wait, wait, these people don't care about me. If I had diabetes or insulin, I needed insulin or I had cancer or I, if I got a car crash and they'd be hitting me with medical bills, I could never possibly afford. They'd let me die, but they are insisting I take this shot for free. On repeat, this doesn't make sense. And when you and when you encourage people to think for themselves, especially the youth, that's what Socrates got accused of. He's corrupting the youth.
Starting point is 00:17:54 And to be honest with you, a huge portion of my fan base were 18 to 23, 24 year old males. When you have the youth, the masculine youth of the world, thinking for themselves, that's pretty scary to a furry, because it's the masculine youth of the world that is one, the revolutionaries, and two, also, that's the backbone of the slave force. If you need people to go dying a ditch in Afghanistan, you need them. If you need people to work bullshit jobs and of coal mine, with no healthcare, you need them.
Starting point is 00:18:22 If you need people to blindly comply to bullshit, you need them more than anybody, more than you need the feminists and the fucking liberals, you need the real men to go out there and comply with the bullshit, to live a shitty existence, to purport and prop up a system. The warrior class. The warrior class, right?
Starting point is 00:18:36 And if enough of these men stand in one place and say this is enough, that's what a revolution happens. So this is the most dangerous group of the demographic that the matrix and the people are trying to control and they have to have a revolution happens. So this is the most dangerous group of the demographic that the matrix and the people are trying to control and they have to have a narrative over. And that's why they're trying to weaken them on every regard.
Starting point is 00:18:51 And when I'm sitting there saying, don't listen to the bullshit, become physically strong, think for yourself, prioritize your brotherhood above what the fucking matrix is telling you, do not blindly comply, resist the slave mind, all these things I'm saying, they just sat there one day and said, wait, the most popular person on the planet saying don't listen to our bullshit. Believe.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Yeah, so I don't think I have an issue with somebody coming after my name saying whatever they want to say. It's gonna happen. That's a part of the game. The bigger you get, the louder you get, whether it's in business, a part of the game, the bigger you get, the louder you get, whether it's in business, theology, church, military, social media, you're going to have that happen and Hollywood's going to happen to you. The concern is when we can't have debate. There's nothing more powerful than you and I have in a debate. You know, vaccine, in our family, we sat down, we had to conversation about vaccine.
Starting point is 00:19:41 My dad's a conservative, 80 years old, he says, I'm going to take the vaccine and I'm going to take the second shot and I'm going to take a booster and I'm going to take another booster. He went through all the boosters, right? And he says, but I'm doing it because of my edge. I'm like, go for it. Do you want me to hate my nanny? Yeah, I'm going to do this. I'm taking this. Go for it. We had a conversation and then we made a decision. What people wanted to do. Nothing wrong with that, but to not allow that discourse to take place is a challenge. To be fair, I went on there and I asked our research team. I said, guys, tell me everything Tate said that's pissed people off. Okay, I want to read some of this stuff. And some of it's rubs on people the wrong way and some of it's offended certain people,
Starting point is 00:20:20 but these are some of the things that you've said in the past before. You said, it's been proving that the smartest people in the world are men. Okay. Correct. I think you had that with bar stool sports and they came up with a portnoy in the high IQ and a later on, it was proving that most of the IQ was more men than it was women. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Next, I will not administer CPR until you're unless you're a hot female. Yeah. So, so the what's actually interesting is, and this is what's really, really important, because it becomes a broader argument than just me and what's happened to me. And I wanna make something clear to the social media companies also as a whole.
Starting point is 00:20:55 A lot of the things I said were in longer format video on YouTube three, four years ago, and the way that social media is being produced and also digested has changed significantly in last year. It's all TikTok, it's all YouTube shorts, it's all Instagram stories. TikTok in real time has destroyed the attention span of billions of people. Have you ever watched somebody on TikTok? How long do they give a video before they get bored? How, what's someone next? Let me see some of the seconds. Boring, boring. Yeah, boring.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Like, your attention span is gone. You can no longer focus on the real world. You can't focus on anything. ADHD is being developed in real time from these apps, right? So the idea of me producing a seven, eight minute video like I used to, and people consuming all of it and understanding the context is gone. They'll take one few seconds, like me saying I wouldn't administer CPR to a man, for example.
Starting point is 00:21:50 And it was actually satire, of course. It's a joke. I talk at length about how that's the whole point. It's a joke. But they take that one part, they put on a TikTok, boom, boom, boom, they add some editing, they remove the talent, they make it interesting and funny, and it goes viral. That's fine. But the point we now live in a world where anything you ever say can be taken out of context.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Anything you ever say can be weaponized against you. And I'm not complaining, I don't believe in complaining, I believe in responsibility. And I'm not saying I didn't say them, and I'm not saying I didn't mean it. I'm saying that most of the people who are upset by things I've said have heard a few clips out of context and never actually digested any of my content seriously. You know, because that was part of a very long video. I've heard a few clips out of context and never actually digested any of my content seriously. You know, because that was part of a very long video. The idea that I would let my brother die next to me. My own brother or my friend die next to me. Because he's not a hot chick. He's not a hot chick. He's ass in line. It's an enemy, right? But it's stupid to even believe it. But if you watch the whole video at length,
Starting point is 00:22:41 that makes sense. But if you only see that, then it doesn't make sense. You know, it's crazy though. I'm sure you saw what Rogan said about you. And the position they took when we're talking about you and they're like, look, we need this guy because he's got to keep talking about the stuff. And he's having a conversation with Brandon Schop. I think it's Eddie, it's all these guys that are on the brink. And then they're like, yeah, this guy know We got to protect what he has to say, but then Jake Paul said I don't roll with tape. I don't I'd love to knock his ass out He said something like that, but then he said but what I do support is
Starting point is 00:23:14 Free speech, but then his brother said something else his brother said you know the shit that Andrew Tate says will have a ripple effect Much more dangerous than you can imagine because his narrative is truly hateful. His rhetoric has extreme negative energy in it and it will affect impressionable young people that won't show for years from now and it's dangerous. Now this is what he says. Logan Paul, you're saying? But I want to say this before you comments on it. And then junior supportive, you Tucker supported you.
Starting point is 00:23:42 I think the guys that like debate and comedians, people who appreciate humor, can understand that some of the stuff you're saying is funny as hell. You could be a comedian if you wanted to, but a person has to really pay attention to the comedy. But you know, some can run with it, some cannot run with it. When you hear the people that support and don't support you, how do you process that? So first things first, I want to get very, very clear that Logan Paul is absolutely not really a tool of the matrix.
Starting point is 00:24:10 He's a bought and sold individual with no soul. He doesn't stand up for anything and he doesn't mean anything he says. He gets pieces of paper from Susan or whoever else telling him what he's allowed to say on his channel to retain. You believe that. 100% non-dui believe he's proved himself. He will flip flop on any issue. He can be bought and sold. The dudes of bitch. Logan Paul is a bitch and I will say that here publicly
Starting point is 00:24:29 If anyone wants to I'll fight him for free the guys in India no money needed no my go to Paul Logan Paul Doesn't believe any of the things he says Logan Paul is a man if you ever were Unfortunate enough to consume his content. I get sent clips of it all the time by people mocking him. As soon as something comes out, whether it's Harry Styles wearing a dress, whether it's Lil Nas twerking on the devil, whether it's this, he just sits there and goes, yeah, this is great, yeah, this is great. He is a talking piece.
Starting point is 00:24:56 He is the mouthpiece for the agenda. The people have come along, people who are trying to force an area, if they said, look, we need to have some degree of control over the exact demographic that Tate has control over. We're going to use Logan Paul and attempt to use him. And he sits there and just purports the bullshit points of view that the whole Hollywood establishment
Starting point is 00:25:13 won him to report. He doesn't believe in the things he said. He's told what to say. And because he was canceled before and emotionally destroyed him, he sat on camera, crying his eyes out like a little girl. Instead of being a man about it, he is so fearful of the mob and so scared of being canceled again They even sit there and say anything he's told he doesn't believe that shit before I was canceled him and his boyfriend Mike
Starting point is 00:25:33 Did endless videos supporting me laughing about me saying how funny I was Tagging me on Instagram inviting me places, etc. The second I'm canceled. They flip reverse it and shit themselves because they don't want to get canceled too They are children. That's all they are. So Logan Paul's a bitch. That's the first thing about Logan Paul. And what's actually been interesting about this whole cancellation thing is, it hasn't negatively affected me in any serious way because I've been saying on podcasts for years, I know what cancellation is coming. I knew it was coming. I knew that as I got more popular and more powerful to a degree that was going to come. But what it has done is it has awoken the world to anyone who's perspicacious enough to pay attention
Starting point is 00:26:06 to learn which individuals out here in the social media space actually have character and belief what they say and which are completely bought and sold and are tools to the matrix. The people who have decided to stand up for me and say, no, this is bullshit, are people who have to some degree credibility. You know, this is just people who say what they truly believe.
Starting point is 00:26:21 But the people who were totally a fan and then post-cancellation shit themselves in one age and get a new piece of paper to talk from, that should tell the public out there exactly who's controlled and whether these people have a genuine narrative that they're trying to report on the world. And it's interesting. Logan's one of them and there's a few others,
Starting point is 00:26:40 but I'm glad it happened just to that alone, because it's actually very clear. If you go to Logan Paul's last podcast where he's discussing me, all of his fans, and we'll talk about fans and viewers in a minute, because I think they're very different things. All of his fans, which he has none of, all of his viewers are sitting there and soling it.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Same bro, you're a fucking bitch. Like everyone, all the people, his own watchers are calling him names, because it's so transparent and so obvious what he's doing. Fans versus viewers. fans versus viewers fans Versus the dude is very different things. So he doesn't have any fans he has viewers and Susan and the matrix and the people in charge of the social media companies Are like okay, we've set our media machine. Let me ask you guys questions as professionals. Let's assume
Starting point is 00:27:17 As professionals let's assume what I'm saying is correct Let's assume that the social media companies when they banned me set their media machine to all release thousands of news articles at the same time trying to give into the world on an evil man. If they had that degree of power and influence, which I think we can all probably agree they do, don't you think they take their number one talking piece to the demographic, which is my fan and give him a piece of paper and telling what to say? Does that not make sense? Does that make sense to say what we told all the news to say takes bad? And all of this fans are 18 to 25-year-old men. Who do we have on YouTube who obeys us like a little cock,
Starting point is 00:27:49 who could speak to 18 to 25-year-old men? Logan Paul. Okay, Logan, here's your piece of paper. Do you want to get canceled again, Logan? No, you don't get canceled, do you? No, no, my- You were saying the call like that was made? 100% the tuts of bitch!
Starting point is 00:28:00 He won a ead from a super fan to just talking about my retro- dangerous, but there's in 24 hours There's a difference between you saying who you think he is Versus you making the speculation that he got called by somebody to say here's a narrative We want you to take or else we'll silence you well Logan is not capable of independent thought So someone didn't give him an area. You didn't think it up himself. There's an empty vessel He says what he is told to say somebody somewhere told Logan what to say and what stance to take. We can argue whether it was a social media company, whether it was this manager who was fearful, whether whatever,
Starting point is 00:28:33 but somebody sat with Logan and said, look, Tate's getting a lost smoke. You were cool with him. Your boyfriend, Mike, was cool with him. He's getting a lost smoke right now. You're going to bitch out. And he sat there and said, yes, sir, sir Yes, I will because he has no character or no integrity if it was all the other way around Let's imagine he was getting canceled and I truly believed it was unfair I'd sit there on my own platform and say this is bullshit because I'm not bought sold alone He's an owned individual so he's always gonna say what he is told to say He's always gonna sit on podcasts speaking to the youth promoting He's always gonna say what he is told to say. He's always gonna sit on podcasts,
Starting point is 00:29:03 speaking to the youth, promoting Harry Styles' wearing a dress, saying that it's great that little Nas works on the devil in real time for our children to digest, and then say, I'm dangerous to do, because that's what he's been told to say. Logan Paul has absolutely no capability for independent thought and he has no characters, man. That's who Logan Paul is.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Now you said he got canceled in the past. I don't think he ever got canceled. I think his channel was demonetized for 90 days, but they kept all the stuff up. He was never taken fully down like you were fully taken down. They just kind of demonetized. This is for the Japanese Japanese video where apparently he went to a place where yeah, so you commit suicide in Japan. Yeah, I'm not completely familiar with the absolute mechanics of its cancellation. All I do know is that you cried on television repeatedly. So the dude was obviously emotionally affected by it and is fearful of it.
Starting point is 00:29:53 When someone is scared of something, that's the tool you used to manipulate. Well, he is scared of being cancer because when this happens, you're 35 years old, right? You're a grown man. I know you like to joke. I'm an old man. I mean, you're literally your prime, bro. When that happened to him, he was 23 years old. This was five years ago.
Starting point is 00:30:10 I think he's 27 now, 22, whatever. You've had a lot more life experiences and been in fights, literally, proverbial, all that, versus someone who's 23. I could see where you're coming from being like, he's been groomed by this, by this virtual government, these digital media companies. He needs them.
Starting point is 00:30:28 He needs them. He needs them. He needs them. He needs them. And you're right, you was younger at the time. I would like to think that Patrick has been through a much harder situation in his life at younger than 23 than cancellation and wasn't crying his eyes out like a little girl.
Starting point is 00:30:43 So the dude's all too emotionally soft. He needs them and the reason he needs them is because Logan Paul doesn't have fancy as viewers. And that's what's actually been highlighted to me significantly since my banning. That there's a massive difference between those two things. Logan Paul is a person who needs the platforms and needs the algorithms and people will watch him
Starting point is 00:30:58 but they will sit there and most of them will call him names but he will have views. That is different than having fans. When you have fans, like me, for example, when I got canceled, they say, where's tape? Where is he? I'll go anywhere he is. I'll download it.
Starting point is 00:31:10 It's a app. I'll install the other apps. I'll take his content and post it on the platforms. They don't want him on. Where is tape? That's a fan. And that's different. When you only have viewers, you need the algorithm.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I don't need the algorithm. As long as people know where I am, they're gonna come. And it's a complete difference, Mario. Who's playbook you think he's following? If you were to say, because isn't that the Hollywood playbook? Like you follow that playbook, and as long as you, because that's what you're speculating. He's following the playbook up. You follow our narrative.
Starting point is 00:31:37 We're going to give you the world. I think that since the dawn of human time, anybody who had power understood that it was a particular demographic, which is going to become dangerous to their power-necked mechanism in the future. It's not a new idea. The idea that the Romans would conquer a Greek city and kill all the boys and all the military age males, it's always been the same, right? Who's going to cause us trouble if we want to hold this city? These guys, look at it.
Starting point is 00:32:03 So nowadays, I think what they're trying to do is neuter this class. They're trying to neuter this class by affecting them mentally, affecting their mindset, affecting their ability to think critically. And if you neuter this class, you're far less likely to have a revolution when you do something crazy. I don't know, for example, imagine for two and a half years you wanted to walk at one in their houses because of the common cold. Let's imagine you were going to do something tyrannical.
Starting point is 00:32:24 You would want to ensure that this class of individuals were so busy concerned with either being depressed or jerking off or being physically weak or distracted, so they didn't all stand up and go, wait, this common cold can't hurt me. And I just started my business and I ain't going bankrupt for this shit. They don't want that.
Starting point is 00:32:42 So they're trying to new or a certain class of people. I don't really wanna talk too much in depth about who I think they are because I'm trying to stay alive and I would never kill myself. But it's certainly happening. I think anybody with a brain can see the narrative is out there and the narrative is being corrected and accelerated by all mainstream media channels. And people who are allowed to have a platform such as Logan Paul have sold their soul, cut their dicks off, and they sat there and say, yes, I will say what you tell me to say. Please don't cancel me. I am a fearful individual.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Dude is a pop. They've ever meet me in the cage. I'll destroy him in real time for free. And he knows that. What about the brother? Well, Jericho, at least, well, this is the interesting about those two, right? Because me and my brother become
Starting point is 00:33:18 the most famous brothers on the planet. So there's also a degree of jealousy involved. I was just going to ask that you get the tape rose and the Paul brothers and it's like this balance of power that's being shifted and it's completely sort of this dance that's happening. It's interesting, right? Because you had the Disney brothers.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I know. The Disney brothers who gained a bunch of power and no sobriety and they were the most famous brothers on the planet and they've now been usurped by my brother and I who come from a very unfortunate background and grew from the street and did everything ourselves. And obviously the youth of the world today have an affinity and feel a synergy with us that they don't feel with the Disney brothers because the Disney brothers had a very easy privilege
Starting point is 00:33:54 life. You know they grew up relatively easily and privileged. You get Disney contract, then you've come to YouTube or you've never really no struggle. I mean you've had it pretty good. So there's a degree of jealousy involved. Jake at least stood up for free speech. Uh, Jake has said some negative comments about me. I've said up to you negative things about him, but I have nothing personal against Jake. And also I find it interesting that Jake and Logan are not even that close. They may pretend to be obviously their brothers, but Jake and KSI have beef. They're literally trying to hurt each other. Logan is KSI's best friend. When you ask Logan,
Starting point is 00:34:25 what would he choose between KSI and his brother and a boxing match? He's like, oh, I don't know, man. He can't even choose his own flesh and blood over some fucking dude. He mad. It's their whole relationship is weird. If you insult my brother or you have any kind of problem with my brother, your problem with me. That's on-site permanent. Like me, my brother are like this, but they're not like that. They have this weird relationship and they've slept with each other's girlfriends and a bunch of weird shit.
Starting point is 00:34:48 So I don't know what's going on with them. That's not good. Yeah, I can't say I did say, thank God Andrew, take God back. Go ahead, you were safe, something. I mean, we're talking about the tape brothers. Right. And the Paul brothers, arguably the two most famous
Starting point is 00:35:00 set of brothers in the world. But you've got two sons, right? Well, similar age difference. For me, these guys, for me, here's what I like. I'm a pro competition guy. The fact that he went on rumble and he got a half a million subs in two weeks, you know who wins, you know who wins.
Starting point is 00:35:19 The market. The world wins. The fact that he went on rumble got a half a million subs. Good job for Chris, we for making a move out of right We know we've had good conversations at the house with him and he's making a move right now on Our body guy we like Russell Brandon a few other guys. I'm a but the stop. He's But go back to this I want both to be competing
Starting point is 00:35:41 I got two boys. I want the tapes going against Paul's to go against this completely. I run an insurance company. We have a lot of siblings that compete against each other. It's great for the market. But where I was going when I said who was Logan Paul's playbook he's following, right? He's 27. The video you talked about 23 when it was in December in 2017 I want to say when he was in Japan.
Starting point is 00:36:02 The video with him and his girl when you know the what he called it the belt that when he got you got kicked off a big brother or whatever was in 2016 but that video is from 2012 10 years ago he's 25 so 23 25 you know you coming from that kind of an environment you can kind of hold the two things at the same level of accountability. One is suicide the other one is you, a extreme method of sexual, you know, the sexual sex, that, you know, it is what it is. But this one I was going with it, years ago, and I'm just trying to see, because, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:36 the whole thing, what would Jesus do? Everybody has a WW something, right? So, Logan, when he did the Japan thing, the story came out, he was talking about it openly that the rock said, rocks people said, hey man, you got a distance yourself from him. But apparently what he told is, rocks people contacted to say, hey, delete all the pictures that we have to get her, et cetera, et cetera. So maybe he's going into wrestling, he's following rocks footsteps.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Rock is definitely somebody that if we ever wanted a real for office, that's a guy that could do it if he wanted it. I think Logan's another guy with you like him or not. I think he's, uh, he's got the pedigree to one day run. It doesn't mean you're going to support his policies. But he is a guy that's going in the direction of one day running 20, 30 years. He could do it. So maybe he's sitting there saying, what would the rock do? He distanced himself from me. Well, maybe I gotta stop defending this guy and I gotta distance myself from him. I wasn't going to the angle of Hillary Clinton
Starting point is 00:37:33 called or all these guys. I was going more of what playbook as he followed. I understand exactly what you're saying, but I would disagree and the reason I would disagree is because that requires a degree of thought and intellect that Logan Paul disowned. He did it idiot. No, I know he's an idiot. He's not thinking that far ahead.
Starting point is 00:37:49 He's literally, someone has told him, say this, and he says it. It doesn't, and it's not just me. There's been loads of examples, and I put it on my podcast on Rumble, where we went through all the times where something came up, some controversial subject, the people were discussing, discussing,
Starting point is 00:38:03 is this good for the public consciousness? And the answer was always basically no. Is this necessary for children to be consuming? The answer was always basically no. But it was reported by the Hollywood elites, and Logan was always the number one person sticking up for it. He is bought and sold by somebody, whether he's management team, whoever they are, they think it's good for him to act this particular way. He does not think for himself. He says what he is told to say. But isn't that Hollywood in general? Completely. Right? The Matrix.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Exactly. So we agree. The agents of the Matrix, some minds are not ready to be free. And those who are not ready to be free, they're going to sit there and they're going to defend the system. What does Morpheus say himself? He's sitting there defending the system. Logan Paul is going to sit and pretend that the world is going to be a better place if
Starting point is 00:38:41 you remove all opposing ideas. And he's going to sit there and say that because he's a moron. Anyone with a brain understands that if you care about your children and your children's children, they need to live in a world of healthy competition. Exactly as you said, as soon as you remove all opposing viewpoints or all competition, you end in tyranny. And anyone with a brain will sit and say, I don't, if you have any kind of character, you'd say, I completely do not agree with what take sets. However, de-platforming is wrong because of X. He doesn't have to talk about me or what I've said.
Starting point is 00:39:09 He can sit there and say, no, de-platforming is wrong because we need to have opposing viewpoints, opposing ideals, idea A, idea B, the truth is perhaps in the middle. He has no intellect. He's no intellectual. He can't do that. He's not smart enough.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Take's bad today. Okay, tell me when he's good again. He's a born-soal individual. When my hero arc completes, because we're at a transition stage, when my hero arc completes, and much like Batman, people understand that we thought he was the bad guy, but we realized we needed him. And when I come back to save Gotham, and the hero arc completes, you'll see him and his little boyfriend back on Instagram saying, Tates funny, and swap again, because it's allowed. That's all he is.
Starting point is 00:39:46 That's your prediction for him. Not prediction is absolute matter of fact, especially. It also couples in with the fact that he's extremely jealous of my brother and I success, because my brother and I success is not based on the same successes that he enjoyed. His success is based on being a clown. That's why he has viewers. He puts on a Pokemon suit and he jumps around with a clown. He doesn't sit there and give ideas or say things
Starting point is 00:40:08 that make people think to the point where they genuinely resonate with your mindset. He's not intelligent enough of that. He's a performing clown as opposed to a philosopher. So there are different opposite things and he knows that and it upsets him. He can't sit in front of a camera by himself and say words that are gonna inspire the crowds
Starting point is 00:40:24 of any city in the world to shout to shout your name. If I were to walk through Madrid right now, there would be young people shouting my name. Top G, top G, that's because of what I say. He puts on a Pokemon suit and does a dance. He's an entertainer. He's not a thinker. It's different. It just has that conversation yesterday.
Starting point is 00:40:40 They're different. Right. And this is sort of to your credit. We were having this conversation because we knew we'd have this sort of dialogue. And he said Pat was asking me, Adam, what do you think? I said, you get to understand something about where I my perspective on tape is 95% of what I've seen about tape is camera to the face him talking and spitting game. Right. When you're talking about the Paul brothers, it's fighting, dancing, you know, all sorts of whatever,
Starting point is 00:41:08 whatever, whatever. I've never seen you in the ring. I've seen your highlights. Highlights, but I've never seen that. So people know your rhetoric. They know what you're saying, and whether they agree or disagree, you're known for what's coming out of your mouth,
Starting point is 00:41:23 versus they're known for antics. And that's the difference between a fan and a viewer. That's what goes back to your initial point He has viewers because he's a clown clowns can have viewers that's fine And you need an algorithm and you need a platform for that But if you have genuine fans like I do they ban me people who like to this day wear his tape and they will go anywhere I am anywhere I am they will come because they don't believe they can find my rhetoric or my ideas somewhere else. If you bad Logan Paul, they can find another moron to jump around in front of the camera for you.
Starting point is 00:41:53 They can promote someone else inside of their algo and steal his entire audience inside of a week. He can disappear and they can replace him. He knows that. That's why he says what he's supposed to say. If I stop being the performing clown, the new performing clown comes, the alcohol favors him, they put him up there, and he does a stupid dance, and he gets all my viewers. I'm a complete different color fish, different story.
Starting point is 00:42:12 That was a great perspective in a retainer versus thinker, right? I mean, when you talk about, let's just say there's a dialogue about Joe Rogan, what are you talking about? So the other thing you do have this guest on, and you know what this person, and Joe said this, you're having a dialogue with another person. But are you talking about? So, the other thing you'd do on this guest on, and you know what this person, Joe said this, you're having a dialogue with another person. But if you talk about, you know what,
Starting point is 00:42:29 the other day, man, Logan did this one video, it's hilarious. So, that's where he's going is, one is creating dialogue, the other one is creating entertainment. I can see that. And by the way, you know, one thing, the day you got banned, we wrote up a story and we posted it on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:42:44 And I said, so this guy's a threat to society, the way they're presenting it, right? Tate is a threat to society. Question mark. And I'm going to read all the things that you said, I want the audience to hear it. Some of it is uncomfortable probably for you to hear. Absolutely. But I'm going to read it because I want the audience that maybe hasn't heard all of it.
Starting point is 00:43:01 But to me, when you say threat to society as a father of four, when I watch little naxics making out with a devil on a performance and you're saying that's creative, then you really do want to hurt the family nucleus if you're okay with that. If a Cardi D gets up there and says, who cares about your body count? You know, don't make your money.
Starting point is 00:43:24 If you got to make your money, and other girls are like, man, if you're stripped, we're here to buy a credit card. I'm like, don't make your money. If you got to make your money, and other girls are like, man, if you're stripped, we're here to buy my credit card. I'm like, go get your back, girl. You know, or OG Simpson, who did what he did, and he's on Twitter, given fantasy football, or Kamenei, or Putin, or all these guys,
Starting point is 00:43:36 who are out there, given their commentary. You're worried about this guy, because he's a womanizer, because he's got now, a complete different conversation to have but I want to read this. I want to read this and if you allow me to just go through some of them, let me just say him, it's only a few of them and then we'll wrap up and go to you. No problem. So how are women allowed to drive? Okay, fine. I asked the question the
Starting point is 00:43:57 other day, we're having this debate. I think we were in Kabul. I said, who's the better driver, men or women? And so, well, women get into fewer accidents, but the data doesn't tell the truth. Who drives more miles in their lifetime. And then we eventually have to two hours of debate, you know, you see where you're going with that. I like Eastern Europe as a whole because corruption is far more accessible. Okay. I can't see why that's going to cause a red flag. You can't be responsible for something that doesn't listen to you. You can't be responsible for dog if it doesn't obey you, a child, or a woman. Okay. That's going to piss off women. Men who constantly give into mental health problems can't
Starting point is 00:44:29 compete with other men who don't, I'm depressed. I can't go to the gym. You said, that's why you got to go to the gym so you're not depressed. Read the Bible. Every single man had multiple wives. Not a single woman had multiple husbands. It's against a will of God as disgusting. Okay. He, a sexual harassment is a disgusting and inexcusable. However, man looking at you and whistling at you or asking your name isn't harassment, woman having an exchange in sex for opportunity for a long time. Some did this, worn of use.
Starting point is 00:44:56 If you put yourself in a position to be raped, you must bear some responsibility. That's gonna piss a lot of people off when he's say that. Completely, I understand. And I would actually, if we have time, I would like to explain all of these come all of these are what I'm done You can rebuttal on because I mean every single one of them if you want to reach me I'm on minnick minnick is a new app. It's fantastic. It allows me to interact directly with people I get a lot of messages on email a lot of DMs and those kind of things
Starting point is 00:45:19 But the people who are serious so when I have serious conversations and grow from them Whether it's a business opportunity or personal experience, et cetera, I'm on minnick, and I can't wait to interact with the serious individuals of the world. So I would like to. Fantastic. Why would you be with a woman who's not a virgin anyway? She's a used good secondhand. I mean, that's 99.9%.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Of course. Read the Bible. Every single man had multiple wives, not a single woman had multiple husbands. It's against the will of God, it's disgusting. Okay, it's easier to get off on rape charges on Romania. Okay. That was taken out completely out. Of course it was.
Starting point is 00:45:51 You went a little bit deeper, but again, you can give your position. Yeah. You know, anyways, there's a bunch of other things that I can go on, that I can go through. So I read those comments. And here's what I'll say when I read those comments. I have two sons, I have two daughters.
Starting point is 00:46:04 When I post stuff about you and they'll say, how dare you who's a father married with four kids, you know, would you want a girl your daughter to go through this? And that's the first of all. I get judged by how I might raise my kids for 18 years. You're your brother now has a daughter. So you got our needs so your emotional attachment of your Fear paranoia for having if somebody touches that girl. I know your wiring is you guys are gonna be in a complete different place Absolutely and God's got a funny way of giving daughters to men that you know But when you when you hear when you hear these things and people say well, dude That's just not cool. You can't say that. We're about this. We're about that. We're about this.
Starting point is 00:46:45 What do you say to the people who hear this stuff? And they say, dude, this guy's out of his mind. I will tell them. I will say that they are a product of the modern world where sensationalism gets clicks, where nobody has an attention span, and where they've taken long format content, completely removed all context. And they're now watching something
Starting point is 00:47:05 they don't completely understand, along with group think, along with group psychosis, along with the idea that it's cool to, hey, entertain, they are now saying, I'm the worst man in the world. I can explain each and every one of these sentences, and with explanation, people will understand that they're not some evil psycho. There's endless videos on TikTok of people going up to women on the street, what do you think of entertain? And half of them actually say, we love entertain, I'd love to date a man like and rotate his kind of guy like the girls to say I hate him I hate him they say why since he talks about about women and then they say what does he say bad? Every single one of them go
Starting point is 00:47:35 Can't remember they were told to believe it. They're told to wear the mask They don't even know their NPCs. You know what's unfortunate about the world? What's NPCs. You know what's unfortunate about the world? What's NPCs? NPCs like a video game. They're played a video game, a non-playable character. We're like running around in an RPG and there's some character there who just repeats the same line over and over again. They're NPCs. You know what's unfortunate about the way the world is? Maths and statistics insist. There's no way this can be broken. Unfortunately, half of the population are more stupid than average.
Starting point is 00:48:05 That's the truth. There are a bunch of dumb people out there who just literally repeat what they're told. Tate's data are women. Tate's data are women. Why? Don't know why. Well, why do I need to go watch all the videos and say, I'll just take your word for it. Yeah, I can't even fucking know. If you don't mind, I'd like to go through each of these one by one. If you're a mind me of the first one, I'll explain it. So you have the CPR you're already addressed, drive, so corruption and Romanian. So let's do one by one. Go for it.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Corruption, go to corruption or a driving. Corruption. So let's talk about, I say, corruption's far more accessible in Eastern Europe. The reason I said that is because firstly I live in Romania, which is a beautiful country, full of beautiful people. I was living there and people often say me why do you live in a corrupt country and my argument was every country's corrupt If you think America is not corrupt you are living at a bubble the world is corrupt England's corrupt They're all corrupt the EU is corrupt Russia's corrupt every country's corrupt I would rather live in a corrupt country considering that they're all corrupt
Starting point is 00:49:03 With corruption that's more accessible to myself than in a country where they're gonna pretend there's law and order, unless you reach a certain level, and then you can access the corrupt. It can be a very simple example. If you are, let's say, the husband of a senator, for example, and you do UI, let's just make this hypothetical. This would never happen, but of course, yes, for sure.
Starting point is 00:49:22 This kind of stuff doesn't happen. There's no way the country in the world, there's no way that fathers of senators don't drink. They don't just do you. Let's imagine you did, right? In America, you get off of this, got free. But if you're a single mother or you're a single parent and you're out there working a minimum wage job
Starting point is 00:49:38 and you're trying your very, very hardest and you have kids to raise and you get a DUI, you're fucked. Now, I think it's kind of unfair that the corruption limit in a rich country, in this hypothetical super rich country, means that people at the absolute elite can do whatever they want, and nobody else has access. I'll give you another example. Let's imagine you're in Serbia, same scenario. You're a center's husband and you get caught with DUI. Of course, nothing's going to happen to you. But you're a normal person and you get caught with a DUI. Bro, I I'm how to hard day work. I know I'm over to the amount
Starting point is 00:50:07 Sorry, here's 50 bucks. I'm sorry. I'm just in dry straight. All right cool. Go home. Bam accessible corruption To me that's a more of a peeling environment to live under than an under a society where they're gonna take a normal person Wreck them under the law throw their ass and jail and fucking destroy them and sit there and cry about law and order law and order Law and order when it's all bullshit anyway. There is no law and order the threshold for corruption is too high So for me as a person who said I'm a chess player if I'm a chess player and I analyze the chess board I have geographical freedom. I have financial freedom. I'm gonna live in a society. Why don't I live in a society? Why have the most possible moves to make on a chess board? Where would I go? I'd go somewhere where my money can benefit me. I don't have billions. I'm not a center of sun
Starting point is 00:50:52 But I have enough to live in some other countries and be protected in some regards. That's just an intelligent chess move I explain this at length in a video All that context all removed better than that. I'll talk about speeding times They take it they take the misogyny thing, they talk, take something about rape, which is imaginary, because I've built criminal charges against females and get anything in my life ever. They put it together, they take in the corruption
Starting point is 00:51:16 from Romania, they throw that in, they whip it up, and they throw it out to the world. And it's bullshit, it's absolute bullshit. What's the next one? I said, women can't drive. So let's stay on that one We're sure I mean I I can't understand how that's gonna piss off certain people when you're explaining corruption and law and order because where does jealousy and envy come from if you think about it
Starting point is 00:51:37 jealousy and envy comes from what? Sometimes it comes usually it comes from people that no matter what they do they can never be taped Yeah, they can never be taped. Yeah. They can never ever. Like we were talking to Grand Stepan and Hita, he says, what do you think about tape? What do you think about everybody that's going to try to do is affiliate marketing? I said, go ahead and do it.
Starting point is 00:51:55 I said, he's not duplicatable. Yeah. So non-duplicable people like you are annoying to people that are, I don't know if you're someone I'm saying. Correct. They can't sit there and say, no matter how many motivational books they read, no matter how many videos of you they watch, they cannot talk like you and tell the story. That produces envy and jealousy.
Starting point is 00:52:13 And you can see how someone like this can be taken out of context saying he must be criminal for wanting to go to a place that doesn't have law in order. Absolutely. And I understand why they would say that. Now what's actually interesting is Booker asked asks the capital of Romania, where I live, is statistically 25 times safer than a city like London. Why did a dangerous place? It's the most Christian country on earth,
Starting point is 00:52:32 99.3% Christian in the last census. This church is everywhere, it's highly religious. It's a very nice place. It's just a different economic bracket. It's nothing to do about Romania specifically. You go to any second world country in the world with a different economic bracket. The corruption is gonna be more Romania specifically. You go to any second world country in the world with a different economic bracket, the corruption is gonna be more accessible.
Starting point is 00:52:47 The price is lower. Humans are corrupt. Every single institution on the face of the planet that is run by humans, which is currently all of them at some degree is corrupt. All of them, whether it's doctors, financial, judicial, law and order, the monetary system, it's all completely and artly corrupt.
Starting point is 00:53:02 And to sit here and believe that any of them are just and fair, I think we've just learned the last few years so we can see that even simple things like keeping people alive, even medicine is completely corrupt from heads to toe, all of it is. So you have to understand that, and then you have to look at the chessboard and go, okay, if it's all completely and utterly corrupt,
Starting point is 00:53:15 and I understand that there are certain people who get to play the game on cheat mode. Do I wanna be able to play the game on cheat mode if I'm gonna try and be the best version of myself? Well, yes, I could possibly do that in Nigeria. I could play on cheat mode. I could possibly play on cheat mode in Croatia. I could possibly play on cheat mode here.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Here, I have to stick to the rules. If I have to obey the rules of chess against a person who can move their pieces however they want, I'm going to be perpetually crushed for attorney. So it makes smart, that's just smart business sense to me. To sit there and go, you know what? Fuck it. Let's change the board. Let's move it out. Let's reset up the pieces and let's play this way
Starting point is 00:53:49 And this is nothing specific with the country I live I've absolutely respect for the country I live This is just human nature. It's the nature of systems and how they work and the nature of the first world's second world third world This is just how the world works So I say these things and people want to sit here and try and and they mix it up They take that and they try and mix it up with some girl shit and try and pretend I'm not talking about basic things like speeding box. That's really what I'm talking about and we can have a long detailed argument about how corrupt America is by I like to think most people the braid understand it the kind of shit that's going down America. So America's absolutely corrupt as well. It's just a corrupt world. That's huge.
Starting point is 00:54:18 That's how you lived in the States. I left when I was a child. So you've been living in the States in never decades. Wow. But you go back quite frequently. That might come to an end. That might come to an end. Maybe my end.
Starting point is 00:54:31 How do you mind? But you use an analogy to kind of set you up for this, use an analogy with pomp, whatever you did that interview. You said, listen, if you two basketball teams, you play a pick up game for $10,000. No referees, no judges, no nothing, just go for it guys. Do you think there'd be any cheating going on? Fuck yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:54:54 So now what was the analogy that were the metaphor that you made for government and systems? So I say, yeah, so I say, if you accept that in a basic pickup game of basketball for $10,000 without referees and judges, humans are gonna naturally avert to cheating to make sure they win. Do you think the people who are in charge of the world for the power and control of the entire populace and all of his resources are not going to consider cheating
Starting point is 00:55:14 to win? You think it's not going to cross their mind? Just go, you know what? Let's just change this. I was thinking you're going to sit there and believe no, it's fair. Nothing is fair. It's nothing has ever been fair. I if you've lived a life of genuine hardship The first thing you will learn is that nothing is ever fair. I've never seen a fair fight on the street I've never seen a fair relationship. I've never seen a fucking person loose his girlfriend or lose her husband fairly I've never seen a fair incident on the fucking road with someone gets crushed by a truck The world is a very unfair place.
Starting point is 00:55:45 And humans come along and we purport this idea, don't worry if word charts will make it fair. It's bullshit. Nothing is ever, ever fair. And the human inclination is to win as it should be. And the more powerful you are in the higher the stakes, the higher inclination to win as it should be. This is human nature. You wouldn't be able to put yourself in a position of power if you thought in the other way. So if you're going to sit there and accept the basis that we're going to cheat in a basic basketball game, that people cheat in football games, cheat people cheat in poker, and people cheat in all this bullshit, and then say no, but they're not going to cheat to control the world in your ass and I. It's all a fucking lie. It's all a cheat. All of it. There's a part of it that that's so my I don't think, I mean tell me who actually
Starting point is 00:56:21 believes the government everything they do is right and there isn't corruption in government. What percentage of the populace in any country believes that? Well, that's got to be very small percentage of the... I like the sides. I think both people, I think whether side of the political area on you understand, you recognize that... Well, but you have selective hearing where you will typically only see the good on the side you support and you will typically only see the bad on the side you don't support, but I don't know
Starting point is 00:56:51 anybody who doesn't believe there is a level of corruption going on in the government. Well then you say that, but anyone who ever advocates for more government or more law, whether they believe just corruption or otherwise are acting at birth to the truth, right? If you believe an institution is corrupt and then you say I want them to have more power. Well, then what? So you have to look at the people who are always advocating for more law. Those people who are advocating for more law are strict controls. To a degree are on the side of a corrupt institution. And it's actually very difficult because we need laws. Nobody wants to live in a failed state without law. Of course, humans need laws completely. But, dying empires, this was said by somebody more intelligent than me
Starting point is 00:57:29 by a camera of their name, dying empires adopt laws like a sick man, adopt some medicine. And you'll see by some of these countries in the world, especially the first world countries, as things get harder and harder and harder, the government only has one answer to all problems. Law. Energy crisis is at control. You do need law and order though. You need law and order. You need law. Absolutely. But I'm saying that you get to a point where you end up,
Starting point is 00:57:51 you wonder how you end up in a tyrannical society. You wonder how you end up in a society where it's so hard for the average person to survive against the law itself. Because when something bad happens inside of a first world nation, the first answer is just create more law. Because energy crisis make more law. It's too much crime, make more law. too much crime make more law inflation make more law more law more law more law more law
Starting point is 00:58:09 Prick more laws print more laws print more laws you end up with a book of law like this. And it can be thrown at anybody at any time and this is what's actually interesting about some societies in the world I live in a country in Romania which is to pour one of the poorest countries in Europe. It's a homogenous society but it's very poor the police drive that you as they can't go more than 65 miles an hour underfunded police force. There's no crime. There's not this big huge book of law. It's just don't kill anybody, don't be an idiot. And just live your life pretty normal.
Starting point is 00:58:35 And it's like that in many places in the world. But in other societies and other empires, they're like, no, we need a law for everything, a law about how you use your telephone, a law about how you listen to the radio, a law about how you do bank transfer, a law about this, a law, a law, law, law, law, law, law, law, and to a degree, it ends up sooner or on a long enough time frame if you're going to make new laws every single day into attorney, where are you going to end up?
Starting point is 00:58:54 Is that just because Romania just trusts Judeo-Christian values and that's just sort of how they abide? It's, I'd like to think it's that innocent, but I think a law of it is also down to enforcement. I don't think they have the mechanisms to enforce the law, so they don't pass them. Whereas in other nations, they have the mechanism to enforce the law, so they pass them. But my point is, if I lived in a nation where they're printing 5,000 new laws a week, I know that's going to end up in tyranny. Regarding sooner or later, if you're going to make new laws every fucking day, sooner
Starting point is 00:59:18 or later, it's going to be a possible thing to go outside my house. But that's it. And you end up in a society where that actually literally came true in certain states in America. You couldn't leave your fucking house. That's what happens. And it's a sad state of the world. I'm not pessimistic in any regard. I'm just trying to analyze the chessboard and be as perspicacious as possible and set myself up at a position where I feel like I can live a life true to myself and true to God and be free and enjoy the freedom of my family and just do what I want to do without hurting anybody. That's all I'm trying to do. Well, let me ask you. you think maybe from your perspective,
Starting point is 00:59:48 you have a blind spot. And I'd love for you to push back on this one. The blind spot is, the only life you've ever lived is the life of an alpha raised by an alpha who raised two boys who are alphas Who the way you describe your father was a guy that pushed you guys challenge you guys He brought you guys together to back each other up and all you know is I can fight I can play chess I can now thank you. I can get out of things. I have the gift of gap. I can talk I can do so That's the only length lens you have you know, if we were living in times, biblical times,
Starting point is 01:00:27 a guy like you would probably end up being the emperor, a guy like you who can do all of those things, you're probably gonna make it to the top. But they created laws and orders for guys like you to not bully the little guy, to protect the little guy. That's what they came up with, the gum to call it, the great equalizer, where naturally, you're supposed to gravity to the top.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Naturally. Great. Because of all those things you bring to the table. People want a guy like like even in New York many times, Brownsville, they wanted some of them out there because the mob prevented girls from being taken advantage of. Absolutely. But they still broke the law. So they were still that element of, so do you think a part of it where for you, yes,
Starting point is 01:01:03 I can a person may say, I can see why it takes once to be in a place where there's less fewer lawn order versus in a place where there's high lawn order because it doesn't really defend it, doesn't protect them. That's a really good point of view and it actually ties in very interesting to another point I want to make, where there's a correlation between people who are free thinkers and people who have opinions which differ from the norm and their test austral levels. I don't even have seen this. But the higher your test austral level the more likely you are to stand up and say something that the group doesn't agree with. The basic premise behind it, biologically, is you're more prepared to defend your idea. If you stand up against five men
Starting point is 01:01:37 and say you're wrong, I believe this. At some point, in especially in history, that can become violent. So if you don't have the capability or at least the bravery to stand up and face the possibility of violence, you're more likely to just comply with the group thing. So they've done a whole bunch of studies at proves somebody who is combative, not in a negative way, but combative as a whole in regards to not physically afraid of having a confrontation let's say, is more likely to have an independent idea as opposed to somebody who is to complete opposite. They're just pure group think because fish, fish, slim in schools, right?
Starting point is 01:02:06 That's how they protect themselves. So it's an interesting point you have there. And also that can be extrapolated if you look at the political parties of the world or you look at the different ideas, etc. You can usually look at someone and kind of see their politics. Sometimes you can look at him and go, yeah, yeah, I get it, right? So there's a lot of biology is a huge part to play with it. And yeah, I agree with you.
Starting point is 01:02:27 And you're totally right. My view, like everywhere other persons view on earth is biased. And I have a huge degree of individualism and a large degree of I can fix this myself or I'll be okay by myself. And that's how I was raised. And that's also my genetic makeup. And you're right, I completely agree with you and I understand that.
Starting point is 01:02:41 And that's why each to their own. I'm not saying everybody should decide to go move to Serbia, because you're right, there's monsters in Serbia, that'll take advantage of a whole bunch of people, completely, but for myself, and my own personal chess board, that's how I set up life.
Starting point is 01:02:52 And that's why the students who follow me and the kids I talk to, I say, listen, life is extremely difficult as a man. It's very fucking hard. There is no way I can tell you to win unless you're a top-tier man. I can't sit here and give you a cheat code that allows you to stay a loser and win.
Starting point is 01:03:08 I can only tell you what I've done. I became extremely wealthy. I became extremely capable. I became extremely smart. I developed a vast network of individuals and nobody wants to mess with. And I set up a life that makes me difficult to damage. That's what I did.
Starting point is 01:03:22 You're saying how can I comply, comply, comply, comply, comply, and stay weak and save stupid and be safe from tyranny. And I say to you, you can't do that. That's why I teach the tenants I teach. And that's also why I think they find me so threatening because I'm teaching people to do exactly that. I say, listen, there's no strength of mind or strength of opinion without strength of body.
Starting point is 01:03:40 First you need to do is go trade. Don't care what you think. Don't care what you think. Too small. First you need to do is go trade. This number one. you think. Don't care what you think. Too small. First you need to do is go trade. This number one. Did you think two plus two is four?
Starting point is 01:03:48 And I think two plus two is five. And we're going to argue this to the end. It's going to be five. So can you make a new something? Newspice. Don't do five now. It's a reality. That's the reality of Earth, right?
Starting point is 01:03:59 And I teach kids this reality. I teach men this reality. And by even doing basic things like teaching young men to go and strong, be strong physically, which is, we, I like to think we live in a world where that's all seen as a good thing. There are people in the world who sit and go, wait, wait, wait, making them physically stronger is going to affect our ability to change their area, even their minds in real time with our matrix programming. That is negative.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Do you think there's wisdom in not saying everything you're thinking about? So for example, you know, Logan's gonna have a big follow and that's gonna say, well, he's wiser than you take, you know, because look at you now, you got Ben and he's not, you know, you're smart, he's wise, he knew what his limits are because he knows at what levels somebody is above him and he knows how to handle that versus you, you know know you can control your thoughts and you say whatever that's on your mind that's what got you in trouble hence Logan is wiser than Tate. Interesting point and I would actually agree with that point because as much as
Starting point is 01:04:55 people think I'm speaking my mind trust me is 20% of the things I think there are limits to the world and there's times to say I'm just time's not to say however I feel a duty that Logan doesn't feel and the duties to my children's children and I believe certain things need to be said and it goes beyond just try to keep my YouTube channel. I have a duty, I have a sense of duty which is he doesn't feel. He doesn't care. He will say anything that said and you allow anyone to get banned, he doesn't even fuck as long as he gets to continue on his channel. Please don't delete my channel. I need to be a clown on this channel. That's all he cares about. I care about the world as a whole. I don't give a fuck. I don't care if they delete me for everywhere
Starting point is 01:05:27 I don't care if I go missing from all of social media forever. I don't care. I have money. I'm fine I'll go to the mountains. I take my car. I'll chill. I have a good life. It doesn't matter to me, right? We have different objectives. So yeah, if my objective was primarily number one concern keep you to that of course I talk differently, but that was never my objective. So people will argue is smart. I would just argue is far less important intentions. And I'll argue that he has less moral character and he's quicker to sell. A lot of the things I say, I'll also be honest,
Starting point is 01:05:54 a lot of things I say, I really don't think were bannable offenses. I just think I said things that got so popular. I don't think it's the things I said. I think it's how many times they were listened to. And that long list of things I said, there's one more there. I'd actually like to really disparage because it's the one that annoys me the most. Where it says, I say that women should bear some responsibility for being raped.
Starting point is 01:06:14 I'd like to take this time and explain what I was saying in long format video, which has been completely misconstrued. I was talking about a girl. I was talking, I have an argument with a feminist. And she was saying that we need to teach men not to rape and I said my dear I love how idealistic you are, but I am realistic men are already taught not to read she's like no they need to we need to go to change language at school and rewrite history and do all the shit they're trying to do to make men weak because they think that weak men don't break Which is another argument I want to come back to because weak men are the most dangerous men on the planet.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Let's talk about that later. But I said no. People already understand that rape is wrong. Unfortunately, human nature, some people don't care about doing wrong things. We should teach people not to steal, but they still steal. Would you agree that everyone says don't steal? The Bible says don't steal. The Quran says don't steal.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Schools say don't steal. Everyone says don't steal. People still steal. So if I were to take a million dollars in cash and Walk down the street at night in the worst part of town holding it to a degree I would have some responsibility when I got robbed the police would come and say why did you do that people would say Andrew Why did you do that? You have to protect yourself from things you can't just rely on the ideological hope the others other people in the World are going to be perfect and infallible, or that the law is gonna prevent it.
Starting point is 01:07:26 You have to say no, I can't walk through the ghetto at two in the morning with a million dollars in cash. I take personal responsibility. She agreed, I said then by extension, would you agree that the smartest thing a woman can do to prevent rape is not to sit here on a podcast and try and change the way men think and talk about your bullshit,
Starting point is 01:07:42 but to take some degree of personal responsibility and not part of self-induced situations. I'm not saying that's take some degree of personal responsibility and not hurt yourself in dangerous situations. I'm not saying that's going to prevent all rape. I'm not saying that rape is okay. Rape should be executed. I'm not saying that every single woman who was ever assaulted could have prevented it. I'm not saying any of that. I'm saying the smartest single woman can do is say, this is dangerous.
Starting point is 01:07:58 Going home with this guy I just met is dangerous. Walking through this area and by myself is dangerous. Let me call a taxi. Let me call my brother. Let me go with my husband. So isn't that a more intelligent way to teach women to prevent themselves from being raped? As opposed to telling them,
Starting point is 01:08:10 you can do whatever you want, walk around the middle of the night naked, it's no problem, men shouldn't rape men of the problem. I said, what you're trying to do is illogical. What I'm trying to say will actually prevent rape. So when you're telling girls, do whatever you want, men of the problem,
Starting point is 01:08:23 you're convincing women to put themselves in situations where bad things might happen to them. Whereas I'm saying listen, women and men, look after yourselves, I'm a full grown man, four time kickboxing world champion. There's places I don't go alone. Like I came here with security. That's called being an intelligent adult.
Starting point is 01:08:39 So this is what I was trying to say. I was trying to say you need to women need to protect themselves and bear some responsibility to make sure they don't put themselves in situations where bad things can happen to them easily. I'd like to think that's a pretty logical point. No. Andrew said rapes fine. Andrew said his women's fault.
Starting point is 01:08:55 I didn't say that. I really didn't say that. It's completely insane. If I speak to my brother's daughter, or when I have daughters on my own, and they say, I'm concerned, how do I protect myself? I'm not gonna say, don't worry, here's how we're gonna protect you. I'm gonna rewrite the mentality of every man on the planet,
Starting point is 01:09:11 so you can walk around naked at night. I'm gonna say, listen, you don't go out at night, you better get, I'll come pick you up, who are you going with? That's just intelligent, I don't think. But they've taken it, misconstrued it, taken it completely out context, put on TikToks, purport it,
Starting point is 01:09:24 media machine picked it up, lied about me, deleted me so I can't defend myself, and now I'm dangerous to the world. It's a fucking scam, it's all a scam. And it's actually quite interesting because the people who are close to me have said to me in real time, Andrew, you've impressed us as to how it goes.
Starting point is 01:09:39 The hit piece they've done on you is unprecedented in the world. And you see them unfazed. It's like it's not matter of being unfazed. It's slightly annoying. It's a matter of just analyzing what I can actually do about it. But I think most people who have been through the shit
Starting point is 01:09:53 I've been through right now would be genuinely upset and affected by it. I don't give a fuck, right? Because I've set my life up in a way that I know I'm okay. But not many people can handle the entire world saying you're a fucking rape apologist and we're going to delete him from the entire world and he's dangerous to women.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Not many people are going to want that to happen to them? So what they've done is genuinely criminal, because this is bullshit. I was sticking up for women. It gets feminist saying don't tell women to go out and they're going to get hurt. It's absolutely insane. And like you correctly identified earlier,
Starting point is 01:10:17 if someone were to hurt a female member of my family, it'd be the biggest mistake they ever fucking made. Don't care about it. You know, I'm the worst, I'm the worst enemy a man who hurts a woman could be. The other point I made earlier, I don't want to talk too much, but we talk about weak men. This is what's scariest about this entire agenda they're trying to report, because their ideas, like the feminist idea, like the mainstream idea, like Logan Paul's ideas, all their ideals, is that we weaken men, then if they become weak enough, they'll no longer be a threat.
Starting point is 01:10:43 And I argue that point absolutely. I think the most dangerous men on earth are the weak men. I think inside of every single man, we're born with a fire inside of us that we do not control, can destroy ourselves and other people. And if you look at men who have no emotional control, because that's what they're trying to teach us to have. They're saying, listen, you're a man,
Starting point is 01:10:59 you're allowed to just cry all the time and have no emotional control, no stoicism, just be, can react to your emotions. Do you know what happens when you tell men to just react to their emotions? Anger. You have school shootings, you have rape, you have violence. That's what happens when you tell men to have no emotional control. These school shooters are kids with no emotional control.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Rapists are men with no emotional control. Violence in the bullsh**t you see on the street are men with no emotional control. Telling men to not be stoic is going gonna create a breed of violent young men who have no emotional control can't control their emotions and act out on them That is absolutely not be more dangerous to society than me come along saying listen I don't give a fuck how you feel young man. Doesn't matter how you feel You have do ease and your responsibilities as an adult and you must comply and act a certain way regardless of how you feel That is better for society as a whole especially as as I'm only teaching the tenets of listen, go to the gym anyway.
Starting point is 01:11:47 It doesn't matter, you don't feel like it, go anyway. Listen, your girlfriend left you, your heart's broken, you're not allowed to stalk her, she doesn't want you. Get the fuck over it. What I'm saying is good for the world. They're saying, no, act out your emotions. Cool, you're creating stalkers, rapists, and school shooters. These people are fucking dangerous.
Starting point is 01:12:03 What we're constantly having this conversation about being logical over us being emotional. How many times does this team come up on our podcast? Constantly. And quite kindly, Andrew, I was more emotional before I started hanging out with BVD three years ago. But this is something you need to work on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Sounds like you've been working on something like this for decades, right? But when you hear logic versus emotion, logic versus emotion, where are you processing that? Yeah, you know what he makes me think about, is, and I got a question going back to Logan versus yourself on the outcome, on what were you solving for where he was wiser,
Starting point is 01:12:37 but what he may think about as a follower. This is the question I think society asked themselves. The government has to ask themselves, you know, families have to ask themselves The government has to ask themselves, families have to ask themselves, women have to ask themselves, men have to ask themselves, Andrew Schoels, who is a ridiculously talented guy. He's a comedian, right? Yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Fantastic comedian, right? Great to have you. Yeah, yeah. So he says, he was saying that, I don't know what I saw this video, I think it was on a TikTok video or Instagram video. Well, he said, in China, they allow videos to go viral, that's about education. In America, they allow videos to go viral on TikTok of people acting a fool or dancing
Starting point is 01:13:15 or doing silly stuff because they're trying, this is their way of getting Americans to be distracted to do silly stuff because that's how they're getting rewarded. Try to fight in the end. silly stuff because that's how they're getting rewarded. Try to fight it. No. Let's say that's true. Let's say his ideas, he doesn't know for fact that's true. Let's say for fact that is true. Let's play that.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Well then we have to ask a question. Here's a question. What content goes viral? Okay, let's go through it. Does porn go viral? Boys watch a porn video, they say, bro, you to see this. Does does porn get a lot of eyeballs? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. All right. What else goes viral nowadays? What else gets a lot of eyeballs nowadays? So stupid dances stupid dance is Frank's super pranks. What else?
Starting point is 01:14:02 to the Franks, super pranks, what else? Franks, no, that's a call. So you have to answer the question, why is all of this content about depensifying men going viral on platforms that don't defend this argument, meaning, Instagram doesn't defend what he stands for, okay? TikTok doesn't support what he talks about, okay? YouTube doesn't defend and stand what he stands for. Okay, TikTok doesn't support what he talks about. Okay, YouTube doesn't defend and stand what he stands for. The court foundation of those companies is very different than the
Starting point is 01:14:32 court foundation of what he has towards women because they're more feminists, they're more men are, you know, the making men weak or all that stuff. But if these things are getting this many eyeballs, maybe what it's saying is the market is sitting around saying, dude, we've been waiting for this for a while now. Like, you know, the market wants to kind of have somebody talk. It doesn't mean it's true or not. But hey, maybe it's what we're thinking about. Maybe it's what a lot of people are thinking about.
Starting point is 01:14:59 And that makes some people uncomfortable to say, no, no, like the other day, you know, the one of my kids, they were watching a movie without my permission, and there was a scene in it. And my eight year old, my 10 year old, we had to have the conversation about, you know, Jay's, Lesbians, all this other stuff. I kind of shared with you how I had the conversation with them.
Starting point is 01:15:18 When the moment I had this conversation, Jim walked out, she's like, babe, this is me, do you like that, these types of talks? I don't wanna have these, I said. You have two books, I sat down. I sat down and I gave them every possible visual they could get. So this is what's going on. And in many cases, people who are not teaching this
Starting point is 01:15:33 because of father figures not in it, we have to have this talk. You know what's crazy? As much as I did not wanna have that conversation at that point, I loved the fact that I was forced to have it because I'm able to get ahead of it. So I can control the point of contact and say, here's boys, what you're going to be facing.
Starting point is 01:15:50 A boy is going to come to you and tell you this. This is going to be happening. When it does, this is what we do as a David family. So go back to you. If the algorithms are favoring a person who data support his arguments because most of these virtual governments are more feminist left, all that stuff, why do you think your messaging got so viral? Well, this is the interesting thing because I didn't put a magic spell on the world.
Starting point is 01:16:16 I'm not magician. You're right. There's obviously a market for what I say. Every, people talk about how I became the most viral person on the planet. I'll argue the point, not only that I've become the most viral person on the planet. I'll argue the point not only that I've become the most viral person on the planet. I did it while being heavily shadowed man. They, they've known about me for a while. They've been trying to shut me up for a while.
Starting point is 01:16:31 I've been shadowed man forever. So I became the most viral person on the planet with all the algorithms working against me. Unlike people like Logan, well, the algorithms working for them against me, because I'm resonating with people who are sitting there going, finally makes sense to me this is how I feel inside and this guy's finally talking about everything else I consume is telling me to do things that just don't resonate with my truth I'm only saying things that people agree with so to chop my head off and try and delete me is acid-eyed in and of itself because there are billions of people out there millions of people out there who feel the
Starting point is 01:17:04 exact same way. This is what I was saying earlier because, and once again, I'm assuming the social media companies have more have intellect and people who work for them who are intelligent. If they were smart, if I was a social media company, I would have come to me and said, listen, I would have had a board meeting and said, control opposition. And I would have come to me and said, Andrea, you have to create your message. You don't want to leave you, You don't want to be censored. You have to say this, this way, this, this way,
Starting point is 01:17:27 that it, and slowly perhaps pay for me down on certain subjects. That would have been smart. You think if they would have come to you and said, let's leave and fall on your body. And I was always like, and I would also talk to them and say, listen, I understand I'm now the most viral person on the planet.
Starting point is 01:17:39 I have to take responsibility for the things I say. The way I say things for a video that gets 300 views is different than the way I say things for a video that gets 3 million views. I respect that. Let's have a conversation. I'm not a loose cannon, I'm a logical actor. They could have done that, but they were emotional. Instead, they martyred me and chopped my head off.
Starting point is 01:17:56 But that doesn't change anything. Because there's millions and millions and millions of young men who think the same way I think. There are millions of young men out there who don't want to wear makeup, who don't want to put a Pokemon suit and be a clown like Logan Paul, who don't want to take transgender blocking drugs, who don't want to assign themselves any kind of feminist ideas. Who don't want to choke the dick off, who just want to grow up, go to the gym, get strong, be respected, make money, have a beautiful girl on a sports car. There's millions of men who want that.
Starting point is 01:18:21 And I speak to those men. And they think, most men want that. And they think, by chopping my head off, those men are going to want something else because they'll get rid of me and they'll. And I speak to those men. And they think, Most men want that. And they think by chopping my head off, those men are going to want something else, because they'll get rid of me and they'll put James Charles in front of them. And say, no, foundation reviews. It ain't going to work. They don't want foundation reviews.
Starting point is 01:18:33 It's not what they want. And it's truly crazy. They think that's going to work in and of itself at all. You know, things are going to work. I think I've proven that it's not going to work. What's actually the most upsetting is this. I find it extremely hypocritical, and of all the things in the world, my pet peeves,
Starting point is 01:18:50 the things that annoy me most are hypocrites, I find it extremely hypocritical, but the system itself pretends it gives a shit about men's mental health. It will sit there and pretend it cares about all the men out there who are depressed, struggling, sad. But when I come along and tell them the only way I've ever found personally to be happy and contented, because I can only talk my personal story,
Starting point is 01:19:10 is to become a man of status, to become successful, to go through pain, to use my trauma, to use the bad things that happened to me, to galvanize myself against attacks from the matrix, as I've just proven I can easily weather. When I talk about men's mental health, they delete me. I thought you gave a shit about men's mental health, they delete me. I thought you gave a shit about men's mental health.
Starting point is 01:19:27 I'm the most popular man on the planet, and 90% of my content is like about women. It's motivational and antidepressive. And you're gonna see here and delete me saying, I'm bad for women. What about men? I thought you gave a shit. All of a sudden, you don't give a fuck anymore, right?
Starting point is 01:19:39 Just delete him. Who cares? I had a man message me, a man emailed me, saying he was gonna kill himself. I get about 10,000 emails a week. I don't answer all of them, but I answer some of them. This guy, his email was so short that I believed it. Subject was, I'm going to kill myself. And the thing is, I know you won't reply. I'm going to kill myself. I don't know what that was email. And I sat there and
Starting point is 01:20:00 said, listen to my friend, I get a lot of emails. I don't know how serious you are. I want you to make me a promise. I'm going to guess that you're not in the best physical condition you could be in. I want you to make me a promise that you're going to get six pack first and send me a picture of you with a six pack and if you still feel like killing yourself after that, I don't know you, I can't tell you what to do, but I want you to get six pack first. He emailed me back and started going back and forth in September. I convinced him to get the gym and said, get six pack C.O.E. field. If you still feel like killing yourself then I'm not telling you to kill yourself
Starting point is 01:20:27 and telling you that's what I would recommend. Start training. By the time he started sending me physique updates, them in a better condition, he started sending me huge emails of apology and thank you saying you saved my life. I can't believe I was thinking of killing myself. You can't believe you changed. If that man would have emailed Logan Paul with Logan Paul of giving a fuck, would have ignored the guy.
Starting point is 01:20:44 You think he answers a single fucking email? It doesn't give a shit. All these fucking media figures, all these people who are good for the system, who are dancing on the devil and fucking sitting here talking about dangerous rhetoric and all the other bullshit. You think they'd fucking answer an email? They don't give a solitary fuck about the young man
Starting point is 01:20:58 in the world. They're left that man to die. And even if they would reply to him, what advice would they give? Go take anti-depressants to watch my YouTube. They have no value to give a guy, because they've never had a life of actual genuine struggle. I'm out here genuinely saving lives. Genuinely saying to men, the world you now live in is so competitive.
Starting point is 01:21:15 If you're not a competitive male, you're going to be perma depressed. You don't have a mental disease. You're just in a competitive environment and you are losing. You need to become a competitive person. There's no easy way. It's going to be hard. It's going to suck. But if you get to talk, gee, the name, if you get there, it's a life worth living. That's what I'm saying. And that millions of young men are going, wow, he's showing that you can be born from nothing, single parent on a fucking council estate in the worst town in England, be stabbed, come
Starting point is 01:21:44 from nothing, and survive and end up with a multi-millionaire. Maybe I can do it if I work hard and I'm diligent and I try hard, and I'm really giving hope to the world, and then they delete me, then they put up a new thing about mental health saying which bill they should take, and then they put James Charles of her and one of the algorithms. This shit's evil. It's genuinely criminal. I have nothing but a positive front of the algorithm. This shit's evil. It's genuinely criminal. I have nothing but a positive force for the world.
Starting point is 01:22:09 And this is what I was talking really about, the hero's arc and the redemption because I think that inside of human consciousness, people are very, very familiar with the idea of the arc of a villain turning into a hero. It's in the Bible, it's in every superhero movie. The guy starts off bad, he's crazy. He's too bad. We don't want him. He's a maverick. He can't control them above.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Towards the end, you're like, where's that man at? And it's gonna take a matter of time before people realize, you know what? Tate was actually a good force for the youth. Perhaps he used to create his message. Perhaps he used to take his newfound fame on board and change the way he says certain things. Agreed. I'm not infallible as an individual. But to sit here and say, I'm not unfalible as an individual. But to sit here and say I'm dangerous and I must be deleted is disservice
Starting point is 01:22:48 to all the men of the world. And then they're just gonna start pretty articles talking about mental health. They don't give a fuck about men. They don't give a shit about the 18 year old boy out there who can't get a girlfriend is genuinely lonely. And the fucking sports star's fucking them all. I'm telling him what he has to do.
Starting point is 01:23:01 I'm saying listen bro, of course the sports star's fucking them all, he's a G. You ain't shit. If you were a chick, would you choose you? Cause I fucking wouldn't. So whose fault is that? The best thing about being a man, the best thing about being a man
Starting point is 01:23:11 is you get to build your character from the ground up. You're not born with any value. You're born as a blank slate. I decided I wanted to be a big towing kickboxing boogat, you driving fucking bad, but I did it all myself. You get to choose you want to be a musician and be sensitive and play guitar and get them out and be important that myself. You get to choose, you wanna be a musician, and be sensitive and play guitar,
Starting point is 01:23:25 and get them that and be important that way. You get to choose, you wanna go get the cage, you kick the fuck out of somebody, you get to be choose to be anything you want. Well, you have to go and do it. It's gonna be difficult, it's competitive. But that's the beauty of being a man, the blank slate. And I inspire men to look at themselves
Starting point is 01:23:38 as a blank slate and go, you know what? I ain't shit now, but I can become anything I want. How could I possibly give up on myself? And then they delete me. And then they say, we care about mental health. If they don't give a fuck, they're lying. This is what they say that women are and men must become completely true, right?
Starting point is 01:23:55 I mean, it's because a man, you talk about, there's nothing worse of being born rich and then just being rich. The beauty is being fucking dirt poor and becoming rich. At all three of us sitting here have dealt through that. A man has to have tenacity and go through struggles and days where you're like, I can't fucking do this anymore,
Starting point is 01:24:14 but still pop your head up the next day. I'm like, all right, and then go back and get back in the gym. I say tenacity. I say this all the time. I say the best things ever happens to me, or the worst things ever happens. All the trauma and bullshit I've been through in my life say the best things ever happens to me, all the worst things ever happens. All the trauma and bullshit I've been through in my life, all the best things
Starting point is 01:24:28 ever happens to me because as a man, if you've not had a difficult life, you cannot be good at being a man. Being a good man and being good at being a man, they're too slightly different things. But to be good at being a man, you need to be, have been through so much shit that when the matrix deletes your entire life from the internet and starts lying about you at mass and people start doing protests wanting you fucking home, and they're looking for your family members, and reporters start calling every ex-girlfriend you ever had trying to convince them and bribe them to lie to come out and say you're something you're not. When they're genuinely out to put you in jail, that you can sit there and be focused and stoic and off to go, you know what?
Starting point is 01:24:59 Okay, what's the chess board? What's gonna happen? Who's trying to shoot me right now, nobody? Okay, so it's better than it was a couple years ago. Okay, so that's why I said, and plan through it, right? You're never gonna be capable as a man if you've not had trauma. The best man ever have had trauma. If you call a police officer, you need a brave police officer. You ain't gonna be brave unless he's been through.
Starting point is 01:25:17 Yeah. He's done any braveness of been through shit. So we also as a society sit and look at men, but we want, there's two kinds of societies, the major society, but the true society, true women with a brain actor, I want a man who's strong, who's supportive, who's intelligent, who's financially provides a center.
Starting point is 01:25:34 Then you're gonna want a man to some degree who's been through some shit. And a man who's internalized it and used it as a weapon. And this is what I say to people, people email me their long list of all the bad things that happened to him and I reply reply fantastic. You are so lucky. You have all the building blocks to become the exact kind of man you want to be. If none of this shit happened to you, when something else bad happens to you later, you wouldn't be able to deal with it. Fantastic. He goes, no, but,
Starting point is 01:25:58 you know, this, this, you're plighting in with more excuses. I said, why are you making these excuses? I just told you what happened to you is a good thing. You need to reframe your mind. Bad things happen to Batman. They killed his parents. Do you understand? That's why he's Batman. You've just told me you have the building blocks to become the most, you might become top G with our attire.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Fantastic. What are you complaining about? It was what do I do? I said, you need to work. Take all that trauma. If you're truly heartbroken, my friend, and we've all been there as men, if you're truly heartbroken, you can't sleep.
Starting point is 01:26:26 That means you're going to get in fantastic shape. You better hit the gym. You have nothing else to do. But stop watching YouTube. Stop emailing me. I want pictures of you in the gym. Get the fucking work. Heartbreak's a fantastic motorbayer,
Starting point is 01:26:37 as is depression, as is sadness. Great. Look at what's pissing you off and make sure it never happens again. If you were jacked and rich as fuck, she probably wouldn't have left your ass. So get your shit together, right? So this is so important trauma such an important part being a man and and the matrix talks of trying to say that Trauma is terrible and avoid trauma or if you get trauma take a pill and that's unrealistic Trauma's gonna happen to you and you as a man need to internalize it accept it and weaponize it and become the best version of
Starting point is 01:27:03 Yourself you can be and that requires mental strength and stoicism. It does not require, be more emotional. If you're more emotional, you're gonna fall apart when shit happens. You're gonna end up like little bit of Paul crying in your eyes on TV like a bitch. I imagine there's a lot of men that hate you because they have not done anything with their lives.
Starting point is 01:27:23 And you're basically saying, clean it up buddy, get it together, hit the gym, make something in your life. And they want to get rich quick, they want the easy way out. And they probably hate you more than feminists. It's interesting. The men who support me online have to shit together. The men who hate me are fat.
Starting point is 01:27:38 The men who have done the take down videos of me are objectively, objectively, unattractive individuals. I'm not trying to be insulting. Just objectively obese, unattractive individuals, right? People who don't have their life together, it's the same even more with women. You can find 10 women who are sticking up from me supporting me at all beauty queens.
Starting point is 01:27:54 And then you find some girl sitting there, some troll sitting in the corner, to Andrew's bad for women. So there's a lot to be said there, right? And hey, always come from below and never comes from above. The people who have their lives together, whether male or female love me, the people who have failed,
Starting point is 01:28:09 and they know that the failures are their own fault, and I show I'm a good mirror, I reflect their own failures at them. Oh yeah, of course they hate me. And that's what's happened here. What's most upsetting is as follows. This whole idea of protecting women and misogyny has been weaponized to attack someone they don't like.
Starting point is 01:28:26 These people saying that we need to get them down to these misogynists, they don't give a fuck about women. These people, you think they care? There's some fat troll, there's some dude, Gold Dazz, who made a take-down video of me, who just came out, came out, actually, on my last podcast, turns out he was talking to a 13-year-old girl. So he's a fat pedophile. So there's a fat pedophile who did a video on YouTube about me saying that I'm dangerous for women Got 10 million hits because he's objectively unattractive saying that he cares about women But he's a pedophile himself. He doesn't care about women. He's jealous of me He's jealous of who I am in my lifestyle So he's found something he can use to weaponize if he can't make up that bullshit and attack me
Starting point is 01:28:59 How else can he attack me can't call me broke can't call me dumb can't call me stupid like well? Can he call me well? He's better than me at everything But if I take this and pretend to give a shit, he doesn't give a fuck. I build orphanages in Romania. I have a cherry that restues stray dogs. I take time out my life for playing the email, saving people from suicide.
Starting point is 01:29:15 What the fuck does this guy do for anybody? Nothing, but he's a good person, because he gives a shit. No, he's using it as a vehicle to attack somebody who he knows is his superior and every single human metric that can be measured by modern science. And he dislikes before it.
Starting point is 01:29:28 All of this is just weaponized care. Oh, we, we care so much about, they don't care about fucking anything, they don't care about people. They just dislike me. And that's a very different thing. It's all been false in the beginning. I've seen through it all from the absolute beginning.
Starting point is 01:29:40 It's a matrix attack. And like I said, I told you all happened. YouTube strike, Meta, YouTube, media, media, media, media, media, Uber, Gmail, Discord, Skype, Twitch, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, it's all a fucking coordinate and hit piece. It's bullshit. You know, it's crazy. I'm listening to you and I'm saying, okay, so who does not want to hear what you have to say? Most people don't want to hear what you have to say. Okay. Now, why is most people not wanting to have hear what you have to say. Okay. Now why is most people not wanting to have here what
Starting point is 01:30:06 you have to say? When a kid is being raised, you got to get cop in a bad cop, right? The in many instances, the father's a bad cop, many instances in the family nucleus where mom and that are together, the father plays the bad cop, the father comes in, get your shit together, you ain't doing nothing, be a man, go make money, get off your ass. All you're doing is this, all you're doing is that, and that's the message.
Starting point is 01:30:29 However, if the market is only filled with only one or the two, it's not healthy. Meaning, if it's only take given this message, that's not healthy. If it's only the mom saying, well, leave him alone Andrew, you're being too tough on him. You don't know what he's going through. He's just a kid.
Starting point is 01:30:49 He's 12 years old. Why are you being so tough on him? And you, the father, I'm trying to turn him into a man. He needs to be a man. You realize I've talked to the world, but baby, he's just a kid, baby. Leave him alone.
Starting point is 01:31:01 You don't know what happened with him last week. So then you as the father goes to sleep and You tell her you didn't hear anything. She said but you send her saying Maybe she's got a point. Maybe she's got a point and then the morning go to the kid and say no matter how much I talk and I challenge you guess what I love you. I believe in you I think I'm gonna do something special with your life, but I want to see you be a leader, right? So the mark, the problem with the market is they only want to give mommy's message, complete without that. He's message. This is why I believe this message blew up because the market needs this as well because so what happens
Starting point is 01:31:37 when I listen to Andrew's message, you go, you'll say something. You know what? Like we met a lady of yours, they introduced us yesterday,, say, this is my wife. And we met right. And you said, I'm not in a phase where I want to have thousand. If I wanted to, I could every night, I could have a different girl, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all that stuff you say. We say, for me, it's only five. Okay, five's the magic number. And you say, five's the number. Okay. So you say that. And is it satire? Is it real? Is it straight up? Or
Starting point is 01:32:03 you're just saying it because you still want to poke a little bit? You still don't want to lose the ability to poke? Or is it that's really what I do want to do? I do want to have five wives because there's a leak in that argument as well. If you take that angle of saying I want to have five wives. No, completely. And that's a good point. And that's an interesting one as well because I had a conversation with, with a journalist from the telegraph that came to my house and I had a long conversation with him which I'm about to raise. Before that, I just want to quickly say something that you reminded me of earlier. I think that one of the main reasons people hate me is because my message is one of the
Starting point is 01:32:39 fact that I came from absolutely nothing. I never had a privilege up bringing you in a regard and I became exactly what I wanted to be. And if you subscribe to my message and you're a fat unhappy man, then you know all of the failures are your own. I'm a reflection. I am saying that if you understand how I think and my world, you could have become anything you want to be. But you're unhappy with who you are and that is your fault. So the people who hate me sit there and go, well, if he's right, then I fucked up. If he's right, I could have been anyone I wanted to be,
Starting point is 01:33:11 and I fucked up, so he can't be right. He has to be wrong, because this is not my fault. This is the fault of whatever. I had an unlucky upbringing or my girl left me or that it's someone else's fault. If I take responsibility, like, take, tells me then I'm a fuck off. So I have to hate take.
Starting point is 01:33:27 Take has to be wrong. And that's why I do look at the general, the composition of my haters. I'm talking about their physical composition as people. You're gonna just look at the people. He likes take, he hates take. He likes take, she likes take. She wants to go on take, she can't stand his ass.
Starting point is 01:33:44 She like, it's very easy to sit. Basically, you can just look at their faces. And yep, yep, yep, yep, no, yep, that you can see it, right? Because it's all about personal responsibility, which is why I teach. And that's why a lot of people hate. So that's the first thing I'm gonna talk about reflection.
Starting point is 01:33:57 But it's very interesting what you're saying about the five wives saying. Part of what I do when I talk, especially about my personal life to a degree as subversion, I learned this. My father was a chess grandmaster, right? And he, I used to travel around America with him, and he'd play chess. And back then, there was a lot of former KGB guys who played chess in these massive tournaments.
Starting point is 01:34:21 And when they spoke, they were very subversive. He'd introduced you to his girlfriend and she'd be his wife. And then his other girlfriend, she's his wife. And then his friend is his daughter. And then they just say things that aren't really true. And the other thing they do is they're very, very emotive with their hands, which is a habit that I kind of learned sometimes. So if, if they were sitting there and an, an argument got kind of heated, they begin to move their hands along. As they just, just a guard, listen to me, listen,
Starting point is 01:34:44 and then move their hands because then you can't see even a... so they start to move their hands and you can use to it and then why? Right? So there's a few things I picked up for them, but there's a degree of subversion. So if I sit and say I have five wives or ten wives or one wife or no wife, I like that the matrix doesn't completely understand why I have. That's one of the main reasons I do it. The second thing is this, I sat there with a reporter from the telegraph who said that, why would you have five wives? If you cheat on them, they're unhappy. And I said my friend, who are you to tell women how they feel and what decisions they want to make? How insulting of you, how how show the mystic, are you to sit and say that women do have the independent thought to decide
Starting point is 01:35:28 I am prepared to share the top g because of his qualities and accolades and financial capability as opposed to you to see her and say they're not allowed to think that they have to think what we believe they should think what the matrix tells them they should think there are plenty of beautiful women out there who will say you know what a, a man like him, he might do this and that on the side, but you know what, he's my man. There's women who will think that. They won't think it for a fucking loser, but they'll certainly think out the top. When Chris Brown walks in the club,
Starting point is 01:35:55 and all the girls start screaming, do you think they're going, yes, he'll be loyal. Fuck no, he's Chris Brown. They don't give a shit because of his status. Had a certain status of man, and I'm not saying that men should cheat, unless any shit because of his status. Had a certain status of man, and I'm not saying that men should cheat, I'm not saying these things, I'm saying a certain status of man,
Starting point is 01:36:09 the idea of absolute exclusivity and absolute loyalty, becomes less important to the female because of his other accolades. That's a fact. Every king, every Sultan, read the Bible. Every warlord had a bunch of women. Why, it was the warlord. The fucking shit mantra didn't, but the warlord did.
Starting point is 01:36:24 That's just the way the warlord always did. It was always been distinction by the way. It was just the top. It's just the top. I don't know if saying all men can do it, but that's also my message. I don't say to all men, have a bunch of girls. I don't say that.
Starting point is 01:36:35 I say, you better become the fucking man. All I can tell you is what it's like up here and how I got here. If you're telling me you're adamant on staying down there, then don't cry that you're lonely because I don't know that life I can't tell you so once again I took about five wise for us whatever etc. Oh these feminists who attack me saying he has he gets these women and he cheats on the
Starting point is 01:36:54 If a female decides you wants to be with me Assuming that's what I even do. I could be Mr. Monogamous three-one fucking notes, right? Assuming that's what I do. That's her imperative. She's an adult. She can sit there and go, okay, my man's the big boss, and he's with me 99% of the time, but I know he goes to Moscow on a business trip. He's doing X, but he comes home to me, and I'm dropping a Bentley, and I'm happy. That's her imperative.
Starting point is 01:37:15 That's her prerogative. It's only the feminists and the fucking people who care so much about misogyny and love the women so much, who come along and say, women are all allowed to think for themselves, no, they're not allowed to accept that. They can accept whatever they want. Women are the gatekeepers. It's a free market and women are the gatekeepers.
Starting point is 01:37:29 Women have all the choice. If they want to get a guy who doesn't fuck nothing else, they can go get some other guy. Women have all the options in the world. So if last week goes on my yacht in Croatia, there's me, my brother and like 30 girls, all the girls will get messages, why are you there?
Starting point is 01:37:44 I want to be here. I want to be here. I want to be here. I'm not being here. I want to confuse that against my will. That's their decision to make. How arrogant and narcissistic must you be as a random individual, especially a male, a random unattractive male with no girlfriend? To message an attractive woman and tell her that what she's doing, she thinks wrong for
Starting point is 01:38:03 being with me and my brother on a yacht and that she should instead want him playing video games at home. What kind of level of delusion are you operating under to even believe that that's a paradigm of reality. And these are the people who dislike me who then get exposed to being pedophiles like that's black. So it's just absolutely insane. I'm sorry to keep rambling but I want to talk about one more thing. I'll talk about one more thing because it's really important.
Starting point is 01:38:26 They say I'm a threat to women, which is absolutely not the truth. It couldn't be further from the truth. And I want to say two things about that. I can't think of another person who reached fame as meteorically as me, who never had a single, I've yet have a single woman come out and accuse me of rape, sexual assault, trying to get money from me? None. I have a long and varied history with females, and not a single one, despite I now have hundreds of millions of dollars, has come forward, now that those things man the world, despite the newspapers finding them online, finding x's I've been spoken to for years, calling them and
Starting point is 01:39:02 offering them 25 grand for a story, bribe, to turn on me, not one of them has decided to turn on me in life or money, not one. And that could have very easily happened to me. We would have been a nail in one of the coffins that that would have happened to me. Luckily, not if I did it because I'm a gentleman and these women know that what's happening to me is bullshit. Not a single one has come forward against me, but I'm somehow my threat to women I would argue that most men in my position have been a meteoric rise one of their stupid X's who go fuck this guy Yeah, I'll take the money and start talking shit I would argue that I happen to a lot of men never happened to me It's the first thing the second thing I want to argue is when they send a threat to women if I have choice
Starting point is 01:39:38 Why would I be a threat? The threat to women is demand with no access to women these people who want to do these videos He's unattractive objectively unattractive, unaccessible people who do take down videos of me who can't get a girlfriend, he's the guy who's going to be a dangerous to women, he's to creep. I have choices. If a girl says to me, I don't like you, no problem. Thank God, one less WhatsApp conversation.
Starting point is 01:39:58 Goodbye, have a nice life. Nice to meet you. It doesn't matter to me, right? So the men who are successful with women are not the dangers, it's the men who are unsuccessful with women who are the dangers. So once again, the whole paradigm is shift. It's bullshit.
Starting point is 01:40:10 I've no reason to hurt a female, or rape a female, or trick a female in any regard. Why would I do that? It's a basic economic, supply and demand. Supply and demand. If you're a high in demand and there's a tone of women there, and one of the women leaves, you have unlimited supply. So why am I a couple of men there, and one of the women leaves, you have unlimited supplies. So why am I a woman here?
Starting point is 01:40:25 What if a woman can't get any females who he has no supply and he's in complete high demand and the woman breaks his heart or he can't even get a woman, what kind of ramifications are gonna happen for him? And this is the thing, das black during the height of the takedown. And it's actually also, it talks the group thing, right?
Starting point is 01:40:42 Because a lot of the people who did videos to try and take me down did it for completely selfish reasons. If you do, we have learned that the algorithm has now been programmed to reward you doing a negative video on tape. If you do a negative video on tape, you get millions of views. I want millions of views because I have a YouTube channel. I get money, I get cloud. Do I give a shit if it's true? Do I give a shit about tape?
Starting point is 01:41:01 Do I give a shit about the ramifications in his life? No, all these other people did it, so I'm going to do it. So, we will start jumping on the bandwagon, right? Tate, Tate's bad, Tate's bad, Tate's bad, for their own personal selfish views. So a guy called Das Black did a video on me, about 10 million hits trying to say that I'm a threat to him. He's objectively out of track, he's an obese video game. Did a video on me saying I'm a threat to him.
Starting point is 01:41:19 After that, women start coming forward saying, this guy has to spoke to a 13 year old girl, here's the videos. This guy buys sexual things from an underage girl, but it's all coming out by him being a beautiful now. So he's sitting there as the criminal himself, filled with hate and envy and innocent man, plus cloud chasing, attacking me. When, truthfully, who's turned out to be the threat to women? How many women have come forward about me?
Starting point is 01:41:41 Zero. How many women have come forward about him? Two in count. It's absolutely not only crazy. And if these social media companies have any kind of conscience and any kind of brain they should be analyzing this in real time going we fucked up. We fucked up here. And we'll see what happens in real time.
Starting point is 01:41:56 But it's very interesting. It's a very interesting. It's a very interesting observation on the world. The people who hate me most of the unsuccessful ones and it turns out they're the ones with the skeletons in their closet. The people who have their shit together, we're all fine, right? Crazy, it's a crazy world. You take, you're very persuasive though. So you gotta know like, if I'm willing to bet on you getting out of any situation,
Starting point is 01:42:17 I'm willing to bet a lot of money. You get your under arrest, you get to get out of it. So your ability to persuade, so I can already imagine like, you know, you know, sometimes go back to the time, you're with a girl, you know, you don't really know what you're doing yet. You're kind of a rookie of a guy dating girls. What things we said to have sex with a girl.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Just think about how creative we get in that five minute moment. What thing you've probably said? What things we've said? And then over time, over time you're like, well that didn't work. So I'm not gonna use that phrase again, but this one definitely works.
Starting point is 01:42:53 And that approach definitely works. So it's either guilt, but you don't know how much I love you. You're not letting me show you a lot. You know, you know, it's sometimes I'm a man. It's natural, you know, as a man, if I don't handle it myself, it's gotta be either you or it's gonna'm a man. It's natural, you know, as a man if I don't handle it myself It's got to be either you or it's gonna be what dreaming. There's so many ways behind closed doors So if they just got opposite as well, I can be like I don't really care. You can leave if you want
Starting point is 01:43:14 There's many there's many to take away model. There's many models that you learn so for you to say that to to a girl I remember one time Jennifer and I my wife, you know We're getting I'm one time Jennifer and I my wife, you know, we're getting close to proposing and getting married. So I'm the Syrian, she's white, she's 80% British when we did the ancestry, but she's from Texas. So she comes to the house, my dad's a, my here's who my dad is, my dad will not drink at a the same glasses as me. Okay, I'm at son. He will not. My dad, if he goes to someone else's house, he won't eat their food. Yeah, because he watches how you wash your hands. If he's sitting in the kitchen,
Starting point is 01:43:52 he will tell me in a series and he'll say, did you watch that? I said, what? I said, I can't eat her food. Why? It's been 10 minutes she hasn't washed her hands a single time. I can't eat her food. And he won't eat their food. He says, I'm already's how my dad is right so anyways one uh I'm bringing Jen home my dad loves Jen and I said Jen I think my dad and I have to have a serious conversation with you because you have to be ready for this she says what's that I said do you know what it is to marry in a Syrian she says no I said there's American laws this there's a Syrian laws and I my dad and I want to share this with you and my dad is fully want to share this with you.
Starting point is 01:44:25 And my dad is fully confused like what I'm saying. Like where I'm going with this. I said, when you marry an Assyrian, I'm allowed to have multiple wives. Because by our church, I can have multiple wives. And for about 30 seconds, my dad's confused. Like, what the hell are you talking about? But I'm looking at my wife, not the time girlfriend.
Starting point is 01:44:43 She's like, are you serious? I said, this is the first warriors ever were a series. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With the first ever warriors 30 seconds into my does. I don't subscribe to it. I don't agree. I agree. When the wife Jennifer don't listen to him. He's full of shit. Right. He says it's kind of stuff. Now, say my dad says, yeah, you should. Just think about let's flip it. So my dad says, yeah, he's a man. If he gives you money, he gives you house, he should do that. Then I'm kind of going to be like, yeah, what's wrong if I do that?
Starting point is 01:45:14 So I think a lot of it is also on our ability to persuade. And we can go here. And then sometimes we test the limit and say, I can go here. Once you get your friend in. You know, I like you, but you know, if you want to, I mean, you have some fantasies. I don't know what you're from, but if you want to fulfill your fantasies, it's not like I want to hook up with your friend, but you can bring your friend and then these words that we use, right? So persuasive wise, your attempt, you can get anything you want when you have those conversations,
Starting point is 01:45:42 but here's the other part I want to bring to you. Okay, writing all these things down. Yeah. You like to instigate. You like to poke. Now, let me say it and then you unpack it. Meaning, I think a great, Dana White knows how to instigate. It's a very, by the way, it's a very valuable talent
Starting point is 01:46:01 that only a few people have. Dana White likes to instigate. Phil Jackson, he instigated a lot of shit between Shack and Kobe, right? Some may even say the friction between Shack and Kobe is on Phil Jackson, you know, but there's an art to it. So a little bit of what you do is I kind of look at you and I say, here's how Tate is. If somebody says, well you're wrong in this area instead of Tate saying, let me explain myself, people go and push more because he found an opportunity.
Starting point is 01:46:29 You know, he's like, let me poke here a little bit more because it's annoying you. So do you think you have a little bit of that when you see somebody, maybe half the time, like when you said, I got five wives, I don't even know if I'm convinced you want to have five wives. I just think you say it because you're pissing off the right people.
Starting point is 01:46:44 And that's a very astute observation that you are correct. Anybody you can emotionally control? Anybody you can emotionally affect? You have them in your pocket, right? To one degree or another. Are you going to emotionally control somebody? I'll tell you who's excellent at this.
Starting point is 01:46:57 Women. Women are fantastic at this. If a woman realizes she can piss you off with X thing, she'll notice it, but you'll keep it in her pocket. You know what? That noise in. Cool. Sorry, baby.
Starting point is 01:47:09 Sorry. Three weeks later, two months later, they realized when you're vulnerable, I can tell you this. I could tell you the experience from fighting when I was fighting. I was a kickboxing world champion, right? I never made millions from fighting. Kickboxing is not that big of a sport. Ten years ago, even UFC wasn't as big as it is now. So, I was making money, but I mean,
Starting point is 01:47:25 I was probably fighting two or three times a year and most of everybody was 150 grand of fight. So I was kind of normal life. And whichever girlfriend I had at the time, no matter what, she always managed to start some ass and eye and stupid immature fight with me, like three days before a fight. Because I'm weight drained, I have an eaten, I'm nervous,
Starting point is 01:47:44 I can't sleep, I've been training for fucking ten weeks, this monster's from fucking Kazakhstan, some psycho, I have to fly over to fucking fucking nose ware and tish-cac and bish-cac to fight him, and now she's like, you know, I'm the toilet seat, I'm like the fucking toilet seat, I might die, he can kill me, but she knew that's when I was weak. She knew it. And that's when you can be a little bit, but they detected it. This is when I can get it, right? Because the rest of the time, I'm talking about the God damn toilet. Because if I say toilet seat any other time, his answer is go home and just say, let's give you a go home then. Go toilet home. Bye. No, I don don't wanna go home. No, now I actually want you to go home. Please leave my house. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm fat, I'm fat. I'll sit there and just, yeah, but obviously, a lot of food needs cooking, so maybe she needs help. I don't say shit.
Starting point is 01:48:48 Look at him. But that's because they make it too easy. Yeah. But if you're gonna give, if you're playing chess and you hang a piece, I'm gonna snap it up. You're gonna leave your work, you're gonna leave your work and you're right hanging. Thank you very much, sir.
Starting point is 01:49:02 Bam, that's the game. That's the game. So yeah, you're gonna put me right. I do instigate to a degree because they make it so fucking easy to win. It's so easy for me to win debates against people because they get so pissed off on what I say. Another thing, and I'll give the game away.
Starting point is 01:49:15 I'll give the game away to the entire YouTube world. Why I've destroyed absolutely everybody in any debate ever. I say things that they know are true and that they agree with, but I say it away, the anger's emotionally, and they get caught up in their brain because they're saying, he's saying the truth, but I'm pissed off by how he's saying it. So I want to argue with him, but he's right. So instead of saying men are physically stronger than women, I'll
Starting point is 01:49:36 say females are weak. Do you know what, do you mean females are weak? Well, females are weak, females are weak, men are strong, females are weak. No, but females, but I'm right, and he knows I'm right, but he's mad now. And so is she. And they sit there and you'll happen to happen on day four. No, you end up having a whole group of people sitting there trying to argue.
Starting point is 01:49:53 Well, some women are strong like men that trying to argue the fact that women are as strong as men physically because I've emotionally controlled them all and upset them all. And then I do a podcast like it, millions and millions of views and on the mid blacks against good debaters like Dave and on his little crew, and I've set them all. And then I do a podcast, and I get billions of millions of views and on the mid-bikes against good debaters, like Dave and on his little crew, and I just emotionally controlling them. It's an emotional game.
Starting point is 01:50:11 I reckon, I've never given this game away before anyway. But this is what I do. I sit there and I say something you may know is true in a way they can't agree with it, and I fucking control them all. Because they're stupid. If I was me, I'd be like, yeah, I'll count. I perhaps I don't like the way you phrased it,
Starting point is 01:50:23 but you're very true. That takes intellect. People are emotional. So this is why I wreck all of them. And you're right, I'd be like, yeah, okay, I perhaps don't like the way you phrased it, but you're very true. That takes intellect. People are emotional. So this is why I wreck all of them. And you're right. I poke them on purpose. And it makes it very difficult to argue with me, especially if they agree with what I'm saying, but they don't like the way it's being said.
Starting point is 01:50:34 That's where you feel see the full breakdowns, the full mental breakdowns. And it goes to emotion. Before I came to value team, and this is three years ago, Pat said, I want you to read a book because it's called Meditations by Marcus Aurelius, Stoicism. You've referenced Stoicism multiple times, not getting an emotional, thinking rational. This was a book that you've subscribed to for years. What is it about Stoicism and not getting caught up in emotions and even triggering emotions that resonates with you?
Starting point is 01:51:03 Well, emotions are feedback. The idea that men don't feel emotions is incorrect. We feel emotions. I would actually argue, we feel emotions in certain, with certain emotions stronger than women. I would argue that we feel park-rake stronger than women. I would argue we feel anger, like a woman could never understand.
Starting point is 01:51:18 I would argue we are extremely emotional. Right. Right, pure rage. Well, it's feedback. So when you get the feedback, it's all about how you internalize that and how you process it. emotional. Ray. Ray, pure rage. It's feedback. So when you get the feedback, it's all about how you internalize it and how you process it, right? It's having stoicism's not feeling emotions.
Starting point is 01:51:30 It's feeling the emotion and going, okay, why is this happening? How much does this really matter? What's the most intelligent move on the chess board? I'm not even that good at chess, right? My father was a grandmaster. I'm like 1800 euros. I'm okay. I was a child chess prodigy, but I stopped playing chess professionally when I was like, eight. So I'm okay. I was a child chess prodigy But I stopped playing chess professionally when I was like eight so I'm as good now as I was in fact
Starting point is 01:51:48 I'm worse now than when I was eight because I've never I've never taken any lessons or anything properly since because my mother and father broke up We moved England my dad stayed in America lost my chess coach in England Didn't have a chess infrastructure America had a chess infrastructure in the lower income schools my dad Just to go to the ghetto schools because who he was black, go to the black schools and teach him how to play chess. So we had a big infrastructure. So you peaked it eight. I peaked it eight, yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:09 But um, chess is a fantastic game because in the game of chess, there's no longer, if you lose, no matter how well you play, if you lose, at some point, you made a mistake. Even as the most minor mistake,
Starting point is 01:52:23 you made a mistake. So you learn to understand that no matter what happens to you, if you lose a scenario, you made a mistake. It is the most minor mistake you made a mistake. So you learn to understand that no matter what happens to you, if you lose a scenario you made a mistake. Maybe it's a tiny one, maybe it was two years ago, whatever, but you made a mistake and you learn absolute and our accountability for yourself. At that mentality, it's extremely powerful to apply to all things in life. The position I'm in now as the most hated man in the world, although I agree and I truly believe it's unfair, I still take complete responsibility for it. I'm not going to see her and say, I tell you why it happened when I talk about TikTok and YouTube shorts, but I'm not going to blame them.
Starting point is 01:52:54 Absolutely. They're a company making money and they're monetizing the best they can. Fantastic. All of this is my fault. But the Bugatti on my drive is my fault. And the yacht is my fault. And the private jet's my fault. So it's all my fault. So I take the good with the bad. I take all responsibility for absolutely
Starting point is 01:53:08 everything including if a woman leaves me, if a woman stays, if I end up heartbroken, if I end up filled with rage, I take responsibility for that. Something happens to me that makes me in rage. I will take responsibility. Why has this happened to me? Why do I feel this way? How did I end up in this position? Is this healthy in this scenario? And sometimes it is. I've had scenarios in my life where I was compared to die to protect somebody else. And I was enraged and it was healthy. I've also had time for I'm in a room by myself, enraged, fit in there going, this is so good for anybody. I need to just call the fuck down. So emotions are feedback, but stoicism is the ability to process them. And that's what you need to be learned as a man.
Starting point is 01:53:47 You're never going to be able to turn them off. You're going to feel them. You have to learn how to learn how to process them and turn them into a positive. It's energy. It's on them and energy. I say this all the time. I say that the biggest periods of transformation
Starting point is 01:53:58 in my life is when everything was going wrong. When my life was going good, I'm not a hedonistic person. I don't do drugs, I don't gamble, I don't do prostitutes, I don't do anything that had anistic, but I'll certainly go on the yacht with a bunch of women I know and chill and have some vodka and everything. When life's smooth, that's, then it's semi-head andistic pretty relaxed, but when I make my biggest progress, when I really change who I am and change the world, that's when everything's fucked. When things go wrong or I'm feeling things I am and change the world, that's when everything's fucked. When things go wrong, or I'm feeling things
Starting point is 01:54:27 I don't want to feel, or bad things are happening, that's when I'm like, okay, I concur, I currently can not sleep. I've completed the day's tasks, I've tried to go to bed, I can't sleep. Shborshit has to get done. That's when the amazing things happen in my life. When I was heartbroken, when I was whatever, everyone's been heartbroken, I can't remember a specific example, I hit the gym harder, right?
Starting point is 01:54:48 If something goes wrong with your pain and process, that's when you get fucking invented, that's business, right? That's when you get inventive. So all the bad things that happened to you as a man, if you're stoic, you get to take unlimited energy. Heartbreak is unlimited energy, so is depression, so is rage, so is sadness, all these negative emotions,
Starting point is 01:55:02 they tell you to collapse behind. It's like, people talk like, Bruce Lee says, be like water and people see that as be fluid and just go with the flow. I disagree. If you're like water, you are, you're necessary for life. You are scary when you're enraged. You're powerful. You're beautiful when you're calm.
Starting point is 01:55:21 You're so many things when you're like water, right? So if I'm enraged, it's like water behind a dam. You just gotta put the dam in place, and you gotta get the turbo, the hydroelectric, but in Don't Sonami, your life, you can put the energy somewhere. And this is the most beautiful thing about it because people messaged me all the time
Starting point is 01:55:37 like, oh, I'll take you, don't know how sad I feel. No, it's been correct. I know exactly how sad people are. Differences I used it. And you're sitting, you're still crying, some random guy on email for the fucking third month in a row. That's the difference between you and me, my friend. I was becoming a rural champion kickboxer. I got to a point and do it.
Starting point is 01:55:53 I, people all of the, all the time talking about depression and saying, I don't understand it. I will say, listen, there's been times in my life where I was fully functional as an adult. I would never label myself depressed because I don't believe in the idea of labeling myself in a negative because I don't believe in things that take power from me, which we'll talk about in a second.
Starting point is 01:56:10 But there's been times in my life where I didn't give a f*** of a life I lived to die. Sometimes in my life where I went to fight a man for money and I didn't give a sh** if I lost it and even woke up again. Didn't give a f***. I had nothing worth living for. I was broke, didn't have a girlfriend, didn't have any f***ing money. Got two day call to fight some world champion. I had to lose 10 kilos and two days,
Starting point is 01:56:28 had nothing else going for me. Go on a plane to Dagestan and fucking won. Other than the times I've done that. By all conventional wisdom, I was depressed, I was suicidal, but I was just like, no, I don't give a shit. And that's what I was at my most powerful. Now I like it that call, I'm like, bro, I got a new car give a shit. And that's what I was at my most powerful. Now I get that call, I'm like, bro,
Starting point is 01:56:46 I got a new car outside and shit. I'm not going to the dentist. I'm going to a wedding. I'm going to a wedding. Sorry, how much money now? But back then I was like, yeah, cool. Who is he? This guy, oh, I'm fine.
Starting point is 01:56:59 I didn't give a fuck. I was most powerful when I was sad, when I was depressed, when all these things. And the difference is, was to framing. It was to when I was depressed when all these things and the differences was to framing It was to framing other because that makes yeah, you know, you know, where you're taking to You take me to Tom Cruise would matlauer and there I don't know if you've seen this or not where Tom Cruise on matlauer He's freaking out on the couch. Tom Cruise is a no no, that's that's that's a general
Starting point is 01:57:22 It's just Tom Cruise matlauer and Tom Cruise is a no, no, that's that's that's a general. This is Tom Cruise Matt Lauer and, you know, Tom is a Scientologist who does not believe in medication. He does not believe in taking, you know, anti-depressants, he doesn't believe in Ritalin, he doesn't believe in any of that stuff. I don't know where you stand with this medication stuff. He's not for it.
Starting point is 01:57:39 And Matt Lauer's saying, what's wrong if this helped that Brook Shields? What's wrong with this helps? I would say, you don't realize what this is doing? This is ruining their lives. This is not a help in them. Do you realize how many different countries this is illegal in?
Starting point is 01:57:53 Do you realize that Ritalin is only legal in a couple different countries? It's not many countries. It's not a legal drug in other places. It's legal and he's explaining this. And believe it or not afterwards, they pinned Tom Cruise to be a, you know, almost an asshole. Like a misogynist like, of course.
Starting point is 01:58:12 What does it matter with the insensitive, you're not passionate, you're not. Somebody that cares about another person, years later, Tom Cruise looks like the hero, but in the heat of the moment, he didn't come out really good, right? So we're living in an era where you're right, a part of it, it's a, you're not feeling that you depressed, take two of these, see what happens to you.
Starting point is 01:58:30 It's a hero's art, and this is the thing, this is why when I was saying when people say, you don't know, you don't know how it feels to be depressed. I say, yes, I do. The difference is how it's analyzed. I always argue this two ways as well when depressed people come to me, because one of my most famous things people attack me for is their little quote is they say, you said the pressure isn't real what about the men who kills themselves you don't care about mental health we've already
Starting point is 01:58:48 discussed how I care more about mental health and these people who fuck pretending to be the first thing say I didn't say the question isn't real I said feeling depressed is real but the idea that depression is going to strike you in your mind and there's nothing you can do about it I think that is promoting helplessness amongst depressed people a nice reason they kill themselves I don't think that is promoting helplessness amongst the pressed people, and that's the reason they killed themselves. I don't think that making people helpless in an unfortunate situation is too great to do. You have to give people hope.
Starting point is 01:59:11 And I explain that when you believe in something you give it power. So I tried to say that when I felt at my lowest and I achieved the most I've ever achieved in my life, the reason I was capable of doing that is because I didn't believe in the paradigm of being a depressed person. I just believe that this is how I currently feel and fuck it. I'm gonna do whatever it takes to get my life to be better.
Starting point is 01:59:30 And I gave a very simple example and analogy. I said, if you take two people, one believes in ghosts and one doesn't. You put them both in haunted houses. And the middle of the night there's a bag. The person who believes in ghosts is now terrified. There's a ghost they're calling an exorcist or panicking in the room, they're hiding. The person who doesn't believe in ghosts
Starting point is 01:59:49 goes wind and goes back to sleep. It's the same noise, it's the same scenario, but it's the belief, that's both. In their mind, that terror and ruins their life. It's the belief in their mind that turns against them. And I've said this many times, I don't even give a shit about right and wrong. You can tell me depressions, you can give a clue with every scientific proof in the world,
Starting point is 02:00:07 depression, but I refuse to believe in things that take my power away from you. I only get to construct a mental model that allows me to be as powerful as possible. If believing in the idea of depression is going to take my own power away, but I won't believe in it. I don't want to believe in things that make me weak. If you want to reach me, I'm on Minnick. Minnick is a new app, it's fantastic. It allows me to interact directly with people. I get a lot of messages on email, a lot of DMs
Starting point is 02:00:32 and those kind of things, but the people who are serious, so when I have serious conversations and grow from them, whether it's a business opportunity or personal experience, et cetera, I'm on Minnick and I can't wait to interact with the serious individuals in the world. I believe in things that make me strong as someone goes, who are you wrong?
Starting point is 02:00:47 Listen, let's assume, let's assume you're correct and that makes me wrong. Let's say that you're right and you're depressed. Why would I want to adopt the thinking of a man who is sad? Why would I want to think like you? Wouldn't it better to be wrong and be happy and have a sports car and a private jet? You want to talk about right? Look at your life Why I don't talk about right and wrong. Let's talk about success and results
Starting point is 02:01:11 I don't believe in things that take power from me. I never have so when people email me and they start saying I'm depressed I'm depressed and depressed and what's funny is this I Talk to them and they desperately defend the idea of depression I'm like my friend friend, you just told me you're too depressed to be successful and depression is destroyed your life and you lost your girl. I'm telling you that enemy, the enemy in your life isn't real and you're now sending me 10 emails a week trying to convince me that your enemy is a real thing. Why are you sticking up for your, this person, whatever it is, this idea of destroying you,
Starting point is 02:01:46 and you're putting your energy into defending it. You should be on my team. Who's team are you on here? Do you wanna see your and convince me? I'm never gonna believe you. I'm never gonna adopt your thinking because your life is about successful enough to emulate. So why don't you try to adopt my way of thinking.
Starting point is 02:01:59 Stop defending this, and they're defending it because it's a cure all excuse. Depression or sadness is a cure all excuse. Depression or sadness is a cure all excuse for men to use for failure. I have failed. This is why they say I don't believe mental health or the man, the man who's depressed can't compete with the man who's not depressed. This quote, I say listen, you get to roll out, be fat, be out of shape, be broke, be unimportant with no girlfriend. And instead of the world thinking you're a loser, you get to say I'm not a loser, I'm depressed. It's a shield. And I say that world thinking you're a loser, you get to say, I'm not a loser, I'm depressed.
Starting point is 02:02:25 It's a shield. And I say, that's why you don't want to lose your shield. Because now you have accountability, now you have performance to call out. Fuck it off. I don't give a shit if it's real or not. We're not about that. We're talking about success here.
Starting point is 02:02:37 Get rid of your excuses, stop defending anything that's ruined your life, and get to fucking work. And every time anyone has ever listened to me in history, ever, every single one of them's transformed their lives and messaged me positive, messaged afterwards. Every single fucking time. That's why I'm anti-antidepressant. Because that pill ain't gonna fix you the way
Starting point is 02:02:54 becoming the man you wish you were is gonna fix you. It's great. And then they're gonna take one little sound by, take doesn't care about mental health, these things to depress people, it's a little bit of some bullshit. And they're gonna apply it to me. I really do believe.
Starting point is 02:03:07 And I state this almost with a degree of achievement. I'm the most misunderstood on the planet. I really believe I am. It's crazy, the level therapy mother who truly believe I am evil. And I'm nothing close to it. I'm one of the most compassionate people you can possibly meet. Can I give you two takeaways?
Starting point is 02:03:26 Just for people that are like, oh, intro-tident. Here's what I've heard from you so far. Personal responsibility. Straight up. All right. And the number two, positive affirmation. I don't want negativity in my life. I don't want depression around me.
Starting point is 02:03:39 I don't want weakness around me. I want to be the best person I can be and take full responsibility for that. Right. Those are the two things I'm hearing. We'll go on further. I'll tell you a story which is going to make me sound a little bit extreme. This is a story when I knocked out my friend. I was going to ask you this story if this is a true story. It's a true story. Okay, about your boy that showed weakness. I got to hear this again. Right? Another story? Jesus Christ. Right, so I don't like negativity in my space. I create my reality extremely efficient.
Starting point is 02:04:07 So no matter what bad happens to me, even in the middle of this shit storm, when me, my brother, my cousin, my team, we're sitting around, we're all smoking. The whole news is saying, I'm the worst man in the world. I've been deleted from everything. They've frozen millions of dollars in bank accounts. Right? Me and my first one boys are just sitting there just laughing. Right? We don't believe in negativity because it's infectious and it's sticky.
Starting point is 02:04:30 And even if someone's negative, even if you talk them out of it, it still stains the air, right? If you're in a trench and you're under fire, the least productive person is the person who goes, they go too much artillery we're going to do it, shut the fuck up. We all know, shut up. That's not helping us, right? It's very infectious. So, and most people understand they say,
Starting point is 02:04:52 you are the sum of the five people you spend the most time with. And why the fuck you spend time with negative people? Or people who complain? Or unhappy people? Or unlucky people? Or negative people? Stop talking to them. Everyone I talk to is like, yep, we are winners. All we do is
Starting point is 02:05:06 fucking win. Oh, the matrix attacks us. Oh, you think I need YouTube? You think I need YouTube? Get fuck. That's who we are, right? So this was a, this was when I was young. I was about 23 years old. I had a new girlfriend. Her name was Kerry. And her ex-boyfriend. I stole her from her ex-boyfriend. And if you're a man, you understand that no woman's truly single. You're always stealing her from some other guy or where she still half talking to her. Oh, bro, she's half talking to her ex where she's dating 10 guys
Starting point is 02:05:31 or always out competing other men, right? So stole her from some dude, do got heart broke, had no emotional control of the whole things we talked about. I was at her house, my car was outside her house. I was with my boy, Tony, my ex friend. Me and Tony are in her house. She's talking to her friend.
Starting point is 02:05:45 I'm talking with Carrie, we're all in front of Friday night. Four cars pull up. Boom, boom, boom, boom. These six guys get out with hammers. Knock on the door, it's her ex boyfriend. Carrie starts packing. He's crazy, he's crazy. It's like, listen, relax.
Starting point is 02:05:56 I go outside with Tony. The six guys with hammers is me and Tony, right? And they say he goes, bro, I don't even give a fuck about Kerry. But you're going to say sorry to me. It's a sorry for what? Because you stole my glory, you're going to say sorry. And then we'll just go away. So I'm not going to lie to you, my friend. I'm not sorry for fucking anything. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm sorry. And then my friend, Tony, next to me, and when I said that, I swear to God, when I said that, in real time, because I don't take my eyes off the enemy,
Starting point is 02:06:26 right, the six of them, but they're all facing me directly. So I was looking in their eyes directly. When I said that, I saw all of their eyes go shit. You ain't gonna say sorry, so now we have to actually attack them with hammers. Do we actually wanna attack him? At the time, I was like, I was British kickboxing champion, I was known in my town, they knew it was gonna be messy, right?
Starting point is 02:06:42 And I always had one hand behind my back as well, I had nothing in it. Just, I had nothing in it. Who knows what's back there? I was like, we had to do something, right? So they're looking at me and they're like, fuck sake, don't eat this, sorry, and he didn't.
Starting point is 02:06:59 Now what do we do? And Tony pipes up, fucking dickhead Tony. Hey man, why don do you just say sorry? And as he said that I saw all of their faces almost lit up Because he in spot the other team showed weakness inspired weakness on our side and from from complete Compitulation they were now brave again Because Tony ran his mouth. I swear on my father's grave. I'm standing there. Tony said that.
Starting point is 02:07:26 I turned on fucking smack. If strangers mouth, nothing out cold. Tony, don't, Tony, my own friend, my own teammate, against the six, I knocked him out cold. I don't need you now, Tony. I said, fuck him and fuck you. I'm in the house. And I walked in the house.
Starting point is 02:07:40 And I saw him all standing around outside with hammers. Look at Tony and sleep. And go back in the car and he fucked up. So you're gonna tell us a true story. If you're a weak near me, if you're a weak near me, you make me weak. I refuse to accept it. I give you a million stories of this.
Starting point is 02:07:53 Three, two years ago, maybe, we were in Munich. They called the police on me for not wearing a mask. It's a whole other story. I told them to get fucked as well. We're in Munich. We wasn't wearing a mask, blah, blah. We got drunk into Kappinsky. We got really drunk, blah, blah.
Starting point is 02:08:03 I was drinking with some guys that kind of knew. In the morning, the police had come, they're threatened to arrest us all because we didn't fuck and capitulate and we're eight masks, so Germans are weird. So we got in our cars, got in our two rear two raris, got in the raris, we're heading back to the book, we're drunk loads, we were really, really drunk. We stopped at the gas station, we all got out of the car, one of the guys was like, bro, I feel so sick, man, I feel sick. There's walking to the gas station.
Starting point is 02:08:25 I said, and I went up to my brother, talked for a while, time to go. And I had a pat on the back, said, bro, if you're gonna keep walking like a fucking injured antelope, you're gonna stay here. We drunk booze. We all feel like shit. I'm not walking around earth with some dude.
Starting point is 02:08:41 I don't want you in my group. I don't want you getting in my car. I don't want you near me. When I walk with my team, you look and go, let's choose someone else. Let's choose another group to pray on. You are the weakness in this group. I don't give a, yeah, you drunk whiskey.
Starting point is 02:08:55 Yeah, you feel shit. If you can't turn it on for two minutes to go piss and come back in the car, then get fuck. I have serious conversation with the guy. Tristan goes, you're so right. What a fuck. And there was no threats. There was no word of gas station. But I just, I can't even look at it and near me. I can't just see people near me
Starting point is 02:09:10 being all, or crying, or sad, or whatever. You're allowed to feel sad. Of course, your girl left you, your lost your job, you're allowed to feel sad. That's fine. You feel sad. You feel sad right now? Good. Great. Sit the blues. Shut the fuck up. Me and my brother have another quote. What do you want? Therapy, that's our quote. Let's say it all the time for anything. Brother, I hang over. Do you want therapy?
Starting point is 02:09:29 No, when I'm with the fuck up, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Why are you even saying, how loud, why are you believing in it? Why are you making it real? We all feel like trash. We drop to then balls of whiskey. We all feel like trash.
Starting point is 02:09:41 But we're about, we're high net worth individuals getting out of Fer our ease in a country We don't have security nobody's walking fucking like we do It's it's a reality you have to cure it create and and when you get your shit straight it affects your entire life And I and man understand this they say I understand you're the sum of the five people you spend the most time with and why are you friends with all these fucking nobody's? Why are you friends with these losers? Why are you doing it that? Then you're accepting what you're going to be. I love winners. I love winners. Show me a winner. I love winners all day long, my friend. That's who I want to be friends with. Winners. That's what I want to be friends with. I don't want to be friends with anybody else. I don't see the
Starting point is 02:10:16 advantage to it. And that's how I've always created my life. It has served me very, very well. And I refuse to accept anything else because negative energy is extremely sticky. If you have friends who are talking negative shit, try and fix them, it's your duty. But if they're sticking to their negative, they're if you don't have a responsibility to them to a degree to sit there and allow them to poop your lines. Because that's what they're gonna do. You have to get to a point where it's like,
Starting point is 02:10:39 good-bye, friends, if you had to completely cut off. I'm not saying knockout, like our friend Tony's probably still sitting there in a ditch. I'm going to just pull out. Tony's out probably still sitting there in a ditch. I'm watching this ball cap. Tony's out there like Tony. Tony, Tony, listen. Had to happen. You could have been spotted of them to rush me and kill me.
Starting point is 02:10:54 On a serious note, you could have been the inspiration for my death. So it had to happen. I hope your life's going well. I'm sure someone's going as well as mine. Sorry Tony. That's how it goes my friend. But how many other guys have you had to cut off? You'd be surprised because there's so many because everyone likes to talk a good talk
Starting point is 02:11:10 and everyone likes to pretend they're x, y, z. And I'm quite a fair person, you know, and I love the, like my biggest friends in the world today are friends so I had when I would have had nothing and they came up with me. Let's say when I had nothing, I had 10 friends. Now I'm at the top, I have four. The six I had to drop just didn't level up with me. And there's when I had nothing I had 10 friends. Now I'm at the top I have four. The six I had to drop just didn't level up with me. And there's only so long you can pay for them to go to the club, pay for them to go on holiday, lend them a car. It's only so long until it's like, bro, everyone else pulled this off. Everyone else, and I've offered you a job and now you're sick and you're tired.
Starting point is 02:11:38 You get to a point where it's just detrimental to your life and you have to be ruthless about it because you have to create your realities. You don't know what to do it. You can't compromise your standards. By the way, I'm listening to them and I'm just going back to stories myself because at one point I went to a different direction than Tate did, but you cannot compromise your standards for nobody. Nobody that includes your spouse, your friends, your family, nobody. There's a difference between loving somebody and compromising your standards. Those are two different, I love a lot of people, but I'm not compromising my standards for
Starting point is 02:12:13 people I love. You cannot be doing that because only you know how big your dreams are, only you know what life you want to build and only you know who you want to be. Compromising your standards for the biggest fatal mistakes any man or human being can make. You know what, you were telling a ghost story. You took me to a place which is crazy. We rented this castle called O'Heeke Castle in New York.
Starting point is 02:12:36 Funny story, you'll appreciate this. So when we rent this place out, it's a beautiful property. It's a $150 million property. I rent out all the 32 rooms, and it's got one of the best restaurants in town, so we rented out. Now, a couple of my guys who are very superstitious, they say, Pat, I read articles, this place is haunted.
Starting point is 02:12:55 So one of the guys out of Handelho, who's Mexican, you know how to handle was Ricky's brother. Ricky's brother, yeah. He's very superstitious. He says, hey, Pat, by the way, these brothers, they're brothers. Like if you meet them, they're like,
Starting point is 02:13:08 they can compete with the big brothers and them. They're a big brother and a shit brother. Yeah, now Alejandro, since they pat, I'm here in this place, he's got ghosts. I said it does. He says, really? So of course this place is haunted. So now I'm playing with them because I'm trying to
Starting point is 02:13:21 suicide that night. I said, whatever you do, you sleep tonight. Be careful, because I hear they full notes and all this other stuff. So I go tell Mario and the guys, it's a guys. Tell me when Alejandro goes to sleep. Alejandro goes to sleep. I've taken notes and I write, right, right. I'm watching you.
Starting point is 02:13:36 I had one o'clock in the morning. I slide it because it's one of these old doors. I slide it under his doors. We go to the side and we hide. We knock on the door. He comes out. He says, who's out there? Who's out there? It's medicin. Next morning, now we all go to stay. We wake up first personized. So guys, you know, a lot of us, we talk a lot of different
Starting point is 02:13:54 things. I don't know. How was your night? This place is haunted. It's haunted. Anyways, but going back to you, talking about Logan Paul and you. And for you, you said, I don't give a shit about YouTube. You think YouTube is that important to me? I don't care about being banned from you. You're making this comment this argument, right? Okay, fine. And you said, we're solving for two different things. Okay.
Starting point is 02:14:17 He's solving for one thing. You're solving for another thing. You know, you present yourself as a methodical person, as a person that's very much about sequencing, as a person that it's about my next 5, 10, 15 moves, who's a Logan trying to be in your POB, and who you're trying to be. Then I got a follow-up question for you on that. That's a good question. I don't think the Logan is actually thinking that far ahead. For him, it's more about preservation. He's been canceled once before he doesn't like it canceled again. He wants to have viewers.
Starting point is 02:14:47 He wants to get a big YouTube channel. He wants to sustain it. He wants to continue to be an entertainer clown for as long as he possibly can. I don't think he's thinking anything beyond that. He wants money in his own pocket. He doesn't care about the society as a whole. He doesn't care about the ideas he's enforces. He doesn't care about the people he watches.
Starting point is 02:15:01 Who watches him. He doesn't care about their mentality. He just cares. He's quite selfish. I want my YouTube channel. I want my money. I'll say what I'm told to say, he's bought and sold. My intention is to truthfully, and I say this in a religious sense, but it's not a particular religion, it's just a religious sense, I want to live true to God, and by living true to God, it has to live true to my ideals, and what I believe is the best for the world,
Starting point is 02:15:24 and what I believe is best for men as a whole. And I also want to try and create a world which reflects that. And my intention is much beyond a YouTube channel. I don't give a fuck if I lose a YouTube channel. I don't care which platform I'm on. I want to know what I'm saying is true to how I've lived. And if people emulate it, they're going to genuinely end up with a better life.
Starting point is 02:15:42 People, when I got banned, said, well, we don't want people to end up like, take, and I said, why? I have no criminal record, no criminal convictions. Successful, hundreds of millions of dollars, dedicated. Like, what would be so bad if men ended up a version of me? Like, what am I going to do to the world? Like, so, and I also think this ties back
Starting point is 02:16:04 to something earlier you said about China. Do you know what the most, I don't even heard the statistic, they asked Chinese children what they want to be when they grow up? And they asked Western American children what it ought to be when they grow up. The most popular answer in China was astronaut
Starting point is 02:16:16 and engineer. The most popular answer in America, YouTube, too. Doesn't that say so much about the mentality of the youth, right? So I'm probably more on the engineer or perhaps philosopher at least, or at least Braille. Like I'm trying to teach tenants that people replicate are going to be good for them as a whole. China, we have engineer astronaut Logan entertainer. He doesn't care if he has to make a fool of himself. He doesn't care if he's caught a stupid costume. He doesn't care if to be a clown. Anything to get because he's't care if he's a stupid costume, he doesn't care if he's a clown, anything to get because he's selfish.
Starting point is 02:16:47 So I think that we're just, you're right, we're solving for completely different things. I know I'm a net positive to the world, he's a very selfish individual, and I think if people try and replicate me, it's better for the world. I think if people try and replicate Logan Paul, well let me be a clown,
Starting point is 02:17:01 let me just try and make jokes and wear stupid suits. Let me mock the dead and mock people who commit suicide And then let me just say anything. I'm told to have a YouTube channel. I don't think that's good. I think that's actually detriment So I see him as a detriment. I see me as a pulpit. Okay, so my follow-up here is the following so during COVID Yeah The first person that interviewed a doctor that got 20 million views that
Starting point is 02:17:26 The first person that interviewed a doctor that got 20 million views that got everybody thinking was Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan interviewed this one doctor. I don't know who it was. I don't know the guy. Peter McCullough. No, no, no, no, no. This is phase one. No, this is March of 2020. If you can pull it up, you'll see who it was. The interview this guy. And he got, you know, Joe was saying, so listen, I'm being told if I go in the song, if I sit in the, you know, steam room and I sweat it out and it says, nope, this is not that. This is this. And it wasn't a person that would have said it otherwise. So people believed them said, okay, maybe this is something we have to pay close attention
Starting point is 02:17:52 to. Anyways, during COVID, I believe Joe played a very important role. Super important. Super important. Super, super necessary voice. I was telling them we're to get us, I don't know if you realize this, you may be one of the most necessary voices in America on what you've been able to do. So now Alex Jones will say to Joe and I've heard Alex say, you know, I know Joe believes this stuff, but Joe knows how to maneuver around it. And he's just like learning how to maneuver.
Starting point is 02:18:21 And yeah, but I know he believes me, but he acts like he does a little But I don't know baby, so you know, you know, I like to say this about Joe So then you hear what's his name you hear Dave Chappelle does the comedy special. Yeah, and he says hey ladies. I just want to tell you You know, I think one of the most miraculous things you can do is have a baby. Yeah, it's you know You should have freedom of choice. Yeah, I'm for you. Yeah, you should have a freedom of choice But there's a bud if you choose to keep the baby I can also choose not to pay child support Yeah, and all of a sudden people way way way way way way way, but no, no, no, that's not you know, it's not cool because this isn't so then But some people say well listen
Starting point is 02:19:01 He makes a very good point. Yeah, if it's your choice It should be my choice, whether I should pay or not. But whether he's right or not, it's irrelevant. It started the conversation. Then the one bit he did about, so I see this card, there's the LGBT everybody that's in there's a queer, there's this, there's the trans, there's this, there's that, right? And he calls out the transgender community and they're about to cancel this guy, right? Okay. Neither Joe nor Shepal got canceled. Correct. That's good for society. Agreed.
Starting point is 02:19:32 Hear me out. Agreed. That's good for society that neither Joe and Shepal gets. Agreed. So, society needs these two guys. Agreed. Because they get to talk about stuff that gets everyone
Starting point is 02:19:41 to be on the edge. Now, Joe almost got canceled. Almost. I'm having that. I'm having that. I'm having that. I'm having Joe almost got canceled. Almost. I'm having that came from very much the hardcore. They almost got canceled because of the end award or because of all these other videos that resurfaced. Any came on and did this video and he said, here's what I'm watching, et cetera, et cetera. And then Chappelle took his angle as well with they tried to cancel him as well. But all I'm saying is from how we need certain people to be out there pushing the envelope
Starting point is 02:20:07 and questioning the status quo. So you're looking back for yourself right now. There may be a lot of people now. You can say, look, I'm not solving to be a YouTuber. I'm not solving to be on TikTok. I'm not solving to be on Instagram. But the messaging is not going to be as visible as great agree. As great as, you know, Rumble's stock is up in 12% all of a sudden.
Starting point is 02:20:29 I totally get it. I hope they blow up. I think it's great for Facebook to have a competitor. I agree. But it's not that. Say, first of all, I'm going to get your thoughts on that. But say you do get a second try at this. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:42 Okay. Say you do get a second try at this. What adjustment would you make? And that's a good question. And I understand your point absolutely. And I agree with you. The world would be a better place with me on these mainstream platforms. What's interesting is I think they killed me in my infancy.
Starting point is 02:20:56 Even though I became the most Google man on the planet, it was very, very meteoric, happened very quickly. I had already had conversations with my team internally understanding that now that I'm the most famous pound of the planet, I have to create my messaging. Not say anything different, say it in a different way. We were already doing that. For a month prior to the ban, we had already changed a lot of the messaging, changed our
Starting point is 02:21:18 stance, not stance. We said the same things, changed the way we'd say certain things, removed certain subjects altogether, and we were already creating our messaging. However, they looked at me and I think that the social media companies saw me as perhaps a 19-year-old warrior who was soon going to become a warrior king and thought we either kill him now, or he's going to become too big to kill. And they've decided to kill me now. I've only been the most... I've only been super viral for six months. If they would have given me a year, the messaging would have absolutely been created to a point that I don't think they would have believed me at all.
Starting point is 02:21:49 My, one of my last posts on Instagram was, I wrote this post, I said, I understand that certain people have false narratives about me and I'm looking to correct them. So, on Instagram, I put up a post saying that, for every like this picture gets, I'm going to donate $2. One dollar to female cherry to protect them against domestic violence and one dollar to men's mental health cherries. Two dollars per like to show that all my haters who only talk negative, I actually do something to fix the problem. I take the negativity and I turn it into light as God would want me to do. I'm going to donate money. It was a seven-day countdown. Instagram deleted me on the sixth day. When I, at the time of deletion, I had 555,000
Starting point is 02:22:29 lights. It's $1.2 million dollars. I was prepared to donate to charities. Nobody wants to talk about that. Nobody wants to mention it because I'm evil, right? At the time of my deletion when I got deleted, the only appeal I sent to Instagram, the only message I sent was, can you confirm the number of likes on that picture so I can finish my donation? They ignored me completely unirly. They need one or apply to you. So I was already understanding that the way you can say certain things when you have 300 views on a video where most of the views got 300 views has to be created and changed. Not because I'm saying anything incorrect, but as a professional you have to understand that things change and also no matter what you say, a very small
Starting point is 02:23:09 contingent of the world will misunderstand it. If not 0.1% of people misunderstand you, that's not a problem when you get three interviews of video. That is a problem when you get three million views of video. So me and my team had already accepted this, already decided upon it and had already implemented it. But the momentum was so strong, and the rise was so meteoric that the social media companies, even a month after implementation, decided,
Starting point is 02:23:32 I'm sure they sat around and said, we kill him now, or he's gonna become too famous to kill. And they thought, we have to try and kill him now. Now they have failed. Rumble, it in itself has proved they failed. I get more views on my Rumble view videos than I got on my YouTube. When I did a YouTube live, I had around 12,000 views. On my first ever Rumble live, I had 127,000. On my second I had 75,000. So they've marred me and made me more famous than ever. But the
Starting point is 02:24:01 message has already been created and changed. I understand very, very well because that's a professional. You have to take accountability for everything. I understand that I have a 15 year old kid without my life experience, without my credentials. Listen to me, not in full, but in segments, small parts, and then takes on board, it may negatively affect some of his outlooks. I understand that. My counter-argument is this. Find anything on the entire internet, where if it's not chopped in a negative way and fed the 15-year-old kids, where it cannot be a detriment,
Starting point is 02:24:33 that's the entire internet. That's anybody. We've already talked about modern culture, having sex with a devil on TV, transgender, whatever they're trying to do, make kids chop the dick off, whatever. We've talked about all this. So that's the entire internet.
Starting point is 02:24:44 That's not an argument against me. That's not an argument against the internet as a whole. But I was responsible enough as an trying to do, make kids chop the dick off, whatever. We've talked about all this. So that's the entire internet. That's not an argument against me. That's not an argument against the internet as a whole. But I was responsible enough as an adult to say, okay, I'm still going to take that in mind. I'm still going to be responsible for that myself and change my messaging, which I intended on doing. But they already decided to nuke me absolutely and completely. And that's where part of me, I don't want to be too defiant.
Starting point is 02:25:05 I'm certainly not looking to go to war with anybody. But part of me is kind of like, I would have never ever been controlled opposition because I can't be bought and sold. But I would have had very, very detailed conversations with social media execs and say, what are you truly uncomfortable with? The way you say this, okay, well here's what I'm trying to say. Yes, okay, so what have I said it this way? Okay, cool, let's work together.
Starting point is 02:25:24 But they didn't want to be reasonable logical actors. They wanted to just try and annihilate me, hoping I would disappear, and they're realizing in real time that I didn't disappear. So now I'm sitting here ideologically thinking, do I give a fuck what they think? I only care about making sure my message is appausive for the world. Do I really give a shit what YouTube want? Now, so if they do let me back, yeah, sure, I understand something that has to be created, et cetera, et cetera. But my message you will remain true, the things I say I do mean,
Starting point is 02:25:51 they are genuinely a positive, and this could have been a positive experience for social media for me. How much money do I bring to social media companies? I'm the most viewed man on the planet, not a single monetized video. They wouldn't monetize me. Billions of unmonetized views.
Starting point is 02:26:05 How much money would they make in? Like, it could have been great for everybody, but they got emotional, sat somewhere in California, emotional, decided I was evil, and they decided to go the destructive route. So it's kinda like, you know when the Germans tried to negotiate with the Russians in World War II, there was negotiations at the beginning,
Starting point is 02:26:23 and the Russians spoke a lot because they were trying to actually negotiate. And then once the Germans overstep the line, it took the piss and destroyed Stalin-Grad, it took a bunch of Russia that, when they tried to negotiate with the Russians again, the Russians only asked one question. The German negotiators came and they were losing, the Russians just said, why are you here? Oh, well, I'm here to represent the German. No, no, no. This is Russia.
Starting point is 02:26:43 Why are you here? Where were you born? Berlin, okay.. This is Russia. Why are you here? Where were you born? Berlin, okay. Tell me the story. Why are you here? And after hours, you end up saying, well, I joined the army and Hitler made me do it
Starting point is 02:26:53 and I ended up getting here. Because once you've been fucked with to a certain point, it's just like, well, I don't know how much I want to negotiate now. So I have some social media companies if they work to finally come to their senses and speak to me, sure, I understand certain messages you've created, I understand that, but I don't need them.
Starting point is 02:27:07 I no longer need them. There was a plate where I perhaps believed I did need them. I now understand that I don't. And that's certainly changed in negotiate, David. Absolutely an added way. Because my message is they've only proved me right. All they've done is proved me right in every regard. I have more viewership, more views, and more dedicated, more loyal fans than I've ever
Starting point is 02:27:26 had. All they've done is damaged their stock price. You're correct, Rumble's going to the moon. All they've done is damaged their own stock price and convinced everybody who believed in me that the matrix genuinely doesn't want people to understand my ideals. They have martyred me. They have martyred me now. So now it's going to be a matter of, yeah, I will talk to you about coming to your platforms,
Starting point is 02:27:44 of course. But I'm going to say the same things I say and yes, I'll create the messaging of course But we also have to have a conversation as professionals for you to understand that you acted emotionally made a mistake And it means a lot to me because I'm a principled man if some of the senior whoever SEO Exactly to say yes, we made a mistake and we're sorry. We misunderstood you. That's all it would take for me to say no problem I understand that I'm going to create my We know that's not going to we misunderstood you. That's all it would take for me to say no problem. I understand that. I'm going to create my mind. We know that's not going to happen. Of course it's not.
Starting point is 02:28:08 Because this will happen to tyranny. When you have a monopoly, when you have a monopoly, and this is the beautiful thing about the world because we're so sick of it, when you have a monopoly over anything, you believe that your monopoly will last forever. Everyone always has. The Roman Empire did. The Third Right. Social media companies.
Starting point is 02:28:25 When you have a monopoly, we're smarter than all the other control mechanisms and wallopolis. We're never going anywhere. We're too smart. And the funny thing about monopolies and tyranny is that you have to use force. And force is something I understand very, very well. Force is a very, very powerful tool until it's overused. Let's use the Romanian example just because I live in Romania. It's only because I'm going to use it. There's a riot, there's a protest, you send the army. Get rid of it.
Starting point is 02:28:50 Riot protests send the army. Get rid of it. Riot protests send the army, trying to get rid of it. They won't leave open fire on protestors. Too much. People have had a fuck enough. Then you end up outstead. There comes a point where you can use force, but once it's overused and people don't believe in your fairness, people don't believe in the fact that you're non-biased and you're still using force, there is a mass uprising.
Starting point is 02:29:11 This is a human nature. I truly believe my banning was that moment in social media. The stock prices reflected, my views on rumble reflected, the public sentiment across all social media platforms reflected. People understand that they have overstepped the mark and they are no longer seen as trusted with force. You can't have force if you're not trusted with it. The reason we accept our governments to have police forces and guns and weapons because
Starting point is 02:29:35 to a degree we trust them. Once you accept your government is a psycho-tyrannical dictator, you don't want him to have any force anymore. I think they made a massive, massive mistake. And if they don't see it themselves yet, they will certainly. The pressure is behind the dam. The only crack that's missing is for someone to be canceled and be more successful than before. That's all that it takes. One crazy guy in fucking Bucharest. And then you're going to see a mass flood. And I didn't want this war. I didn't want this.
Starting point is 02:30:03 This was social media companies forced me to do. But this is the situation they're currently in, whether they realize it and I can see it or not. But my cancellation has made me more successful than before. So now what? You've shot me with your biggest bullet. I'm still here. What do you do now? And that is the the responsibilities on that. If they were, if they can remove their emotions from disliking me and actually look at the chessboard They're gonna see they have a lot of pressure on some key squares. Can I push back? Absolutely. Okay, let me push back a little bit
Starting point is 02:30:31 So on the video you're going away at video you say I take full responsibility for what's happened the band is a good thing This gives me the opportunity for a first start. It's a massive opportunity to have no ill-will for social media companies correct or the haters out I will pray for you, but I will not go down as a villain. Correct. You're right. I will not go down as a villain. Fantastic. So, you know, the part that I also see that's a challenge is the following, which is very hard. You know how you're explaining in almost all tyrannical situations, they don't know that they have a monopoly until eventually there's a revolution in a boom flips game over it's over with right I should be in Iran right now I'm not in Iran because the Shah thought you know he wasn't paranoid enough and he thought he was untouchable okay I'm supposed to be in Iran today I'm not in Iran we were forced
Starting point is 02:31:22 not Carter comes in Kissinger it's out came over and I'm living in the States. Now, God's got a bigger plan. I support it. I'm not sitting here saying, I wish I was in Iran. There's a part of me that's thankful for Jimmy Carter. And there's a part of me that would love to sit down with again. Have a nice lengthy conversation with them. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:38 But so the Shadr is an interview. I don't know if it's BBC or one of the interviews. They're asking him a question. Iran's growing rapidly. They got this massive 25-year contract with five countries for oil from 1954. It's a petroleum contract. He's coming up.
Starting point is 02:31:53 It's 77. It's Germany, France, US, UK. I believe it's these four countries. They're sitting there worried because this guy keeps saying, I'm going to raise the prices. I'm going to raise the prices. And in the next five years, we're going to be big in a UK and in the next 25 years we'll be competing with U.S. and he's the man in charge and he's got a smirk on his face when he says this.
Starting point is 02:32:14 And a little smirk on a small on his face says he thinks he's untouchable. What ends up happening? This is a guy running one of the most powerful countries in the world who speaks seven different languages possibly the sharpest camp in the world in the 60s, 70s coming up. And his father was Resah Khan who was a top G you would call him a badass mother, you know, at the highest level. He was a guy that was feared because he wasn't exiled because he was littered to top. Okay. So this happens and that takes me to another place where Michael Jordan is getting retired. LeBron tries to do the noble things as we, well, I think we should retire number 23 because you know, Michael Jordan, there's never going to be another Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan says, no man is bigger than the NBA. And I appreciate that LeBron, but no one is bigger than the NBA, right? Okay.
Starting point is 02:33:07 So for you, and where you're at, I get what you're saying. I fully get what you're saying. And by the way, you have to know, we're hoping you're right. Of course. We're hoping you go out there and get 100 million subscribers on Rumble, and you have to kind of follow Mr. Beast, PewDiePie, have it rumble
Starting point is 02:33:25 and Chris is going to be a billionaire, you're going to do what you're doing, everything's going to take off. Great. But we're also in the conversion game. If the outcome is really to talk to people who you can convert, because if you're talking to people that you agree with, you know, really, you know, injecting that philosophy to baptized people. What made you necessary was you were on platforms where 80%, 70% didn't agree with you.
Starting point is 02:33:55 And you were baptizing. A great. You were forcing the conversation at the dinner table. A great. You were forcing a conversation at lunch, at dinner, at the gym. I don't agree with them. I think he's full of shit. a conversation at lunch, at dinner, at the gym. I don't agree with him. I think he's full of shit.
Starting point is 02:34:07 I think he's listening. I agree with him. I like what he said. I don't like him. My girl likes him. Why don't you girl like him? All this stuff, right? Great.
Starting point is 02:34:15 So, you know, I say this again because I'm glad Joe earned St. Status. So this is kind of where I'm going with this. Let me kind of flush out my thoughts on what I have Here's what I see you don't have and If I was a advisor sitting on a board and you're like, hey, I got five people guys Here's what I want to do next 15 moves. What do you think? And these are people you trust 100% bulletproof people? I would say okay, who do you really have? You don't really have you have fans you have true believers you have 100% true believers
Starting point is 02:34:46 Yeah, but here's a part what institution supports you. What do you mean what major institution supports you? None are great. Okay, who supports Joe UFC? That's powerful great because Democrats Republicans independence white Black Hispanic educated uneducated degrees degrees C, a billion or a million, broke man right, follows UFC. Shepel, what organization support Shepel? Comedy. He's the king of comedy. He's the goat of comedy right now.
Starting point is 02:35:14 He's a guy at the top. It doesn't matter what anybody say. He is the goat. He's the guy that everybody talks. So what do you think you need to be doing? If you were to strategically, because like you say, kickboxing is not that big of a space. Yeah. Where could that, I think come in. I think you understand what question I'm asking. Absolutely. And you're completely and
Starting point is 02:35:35 hourly right. The reason I believe that I'm going to be okay is, is threefold. One, the matrix has not completely and hourly deleted me because they can't. I'm still all over these platforms. I'm still all over. My account's gone. I never had a Tik Tok account anyway. They said, what are the news that they banned my Tik Tok account? I said, I don't know which poor 15-year-old had his account deleted. What a wholesome bomb.
Starting point is 02:35:59 I don't have one. I don't have a Tik Tok account. I know I'm a YouTube account and I look at an Instagram account. That's crazy, by the way. I don't even have a Tik Tok account. I know one of your YouTube account, and they'll have an Instagram account. That's crazy, by the way. I don't even have a Tik Tok account. I have one. They watch it. Although you were going viral on Tik Tok,
Starting point is 02:36:09 it's destructive for the mind. Destroy your attention span. So I don't have one on my phone. I'm already all over these platforms. The problem is, my biggest problem I was facing, pre-band was people, a lot of people go and take smart and I agree with him, he's too fuck with the matrix the mayor of the enemy him being danger Nah, yes, the only problem I had nobody said I was wrong. They said I was semi-paranoid
Starting point is 02:36:36 Then I was proved right So now I've had so many people going you know what I loved your content, but I thought that This part was wrong, but fuck you were right you were right you were right They proved me right about a whole bunch of things and what happened was actually interesting when I first got banned for the first Maybe only six hours if you put up a new video with me. They deleted it from YouTube But now they stopped because you can't ban everybody. You can't ban everyone. You can't ban thousands of accounts. You can't ban all the young men. You can't
Starting point is 02:37:12 ban all the reaction accounts. You can't ban all the haters of mine. You can't stop commenting on my videos. You can't ban Logan Paul talking about me for hours. You can't stop it. So now they tried the true tyranny and backhead. So I'm already still all over YouTube. But now I have a merit. I have a badge of he's so, he's telling so much truth that they banned him. Another thing they don't anticipate is that I've been talking about my band for years. There's something they don't talk about. When I've been on every podcast saying I'm going to get banned for three years and then I get banned, does that maybe look smart or stupid?
Starting point is 02:37:47 I told you what was going to happen. You didn't surprise anybody, didn't surprise me. I've been talking about for a very, very long time. Now, the public consciousness, let me talk about this at length. The reason I don't have high level support yet is because the public consciousness is simple. The public consciousness, companies follow money. They know how much money I'm doing. Imagine our to endorse a crypto, just imagine. I never would. And there's a bunch out there pretending they are me,
Starting point is 02:38:15 but they're not me. Imagine how I could turn a nothing into a hundred billion market cap to a dollar. But I don't support these things, because with cryptos, it's player versus player. Some people sell the top, some people lose, it's normal. I don't want any of my people to the wall. I don't support these things because with cryptos it's player versus player. Some people sell the top, some people lose. It's normal. I don't want any of my people to get scared. So I don't support these things. They know how much money I'm worth. They're
Starting point is 02:38:32 scared of the backlash. I have had, and I won't say what type of company, but I've had at least 15 companies reach out to me from varying industries, sponsorships, payment processors, social media companies, etc. who have literally said to me, we're monitoring public sentiment, we see it changing in real time, and we'd like to discuss a sponsorship or some kind of deal in perhaps a few months. Everyone's waiting to make sure that, because right now 80% of the population knows bullshit. Once 90% or 95% of the population know that the backlash against me is bullshit, the amount of money that's going to be offered to me to support things is going to be one
Starting point is 02:39:07 new mentor. It's already coming. It's already there. People already love my ideas. You would not believe, I don't want to say the car brand. But there's a particular car brand. Think of the top five luxury car brands you can think of. There's a particular car brand.
Starting point is 02:39:20 I bought one of their cars. It's a flagship model. It's 1.2 million. I bought it. They did the big unveiling about a month ago. I couldn't attend, I was busy. I sent a friend of mine in place because I had a special car to go see.
Starting point is 02:39:32 The CEO of the company said, please can you get him to email me? I emailed the CEO, he said, listen, I know a lot of things are going public that we can't say this thing's publicly. I just want you to know that we support you. But these are the CEOs of Billy and Dollar companies. They're all already on my side.
Starting point is 02:39:47 They have to watch their stock price as they should. They have to mark PR, public sentiment as they should. That's changing in real time. This isn't what I talk about the redemption arc. And may take six months, may take two years. The things I say are too powerful and too beneficial to the populace for it not to turn around where people say, tape is a good thing.
Starting point is 02:40:08 That's where all of that is coming. It is coming and you're right. It is coming. Right now as a company you sit there and look at tape and go, we love him. He could get our exact audience. You could bring billions of dollars, but there'll be a backlash. That's just, but it's changing. It's changing.
Starting point is 02:40:24 I really believe in six months that will completely not only change. And we can talk about things from payment processors who've reached out to car brands, who've reached out to all the people who've reached out and said, listen, please we're monitoring, we're on your side, we're emailing you once a week, we're just talking to the board,
Starting point is 02:40:41 we're monitoring social, like it's all absolutely not only coming because they know that I am a force for good. They know that I have a huge contingent of people who believe in me and trust in me. And I wanna say this also publicly on camera. They also know my endorsement is extremely powerful because unlike Logan Paul,
Starting point is 02:40:56 who sells crypto pump and dumps, making kids lose money, who sells an energy drink full of sugar and trash, sells crap. They know I don't need money. So anything I stand up for indoors is because I actually like it. You can go and give me $100 million for some shit.
Starting point is 02:41:09 I ain't gonna take it. That's trash. People who believe in me believe in me. I won't compromise my integrity. The one thing people know when they look at me is I'm an integral person. I certainly have morals because I wouldn't have had enough
Starting point is 02:41:20 in this fucking position in another way. So they look at me and go, if he endorses something, people are gonna believe him. And I won't endorse anything I don't believe. it's fucking positioned in the other way. So they look at me and go, if he endorses something, people are gonna believe him. And I won't endorse anything I don't believe. So they're right. So any brand who comes along and does business with me is gonna make a bunch of money.
Starting point is 02:41:32 Let's look at Rumble. Rumble with the brave ones. They stood up and they say, they sign me. They come up, they said, look, we believe in you, we believe what you're saying, they sign me, we know what else would. Who happened to stock price? 30%? A stock?
Starting point is 02:41:45 In a bear market? In a recession? People are paying attention to this shit. So this is all coming. This way for public sentiment to shift. And shifting in real time, I have my own team monitoring social media comments in real time at the height of the ship storm. At the true height of the ship storm was 50-50.
Starting point is 02:42:03 It's currently 80-20. It's only going one way. They can't, the program with the social media companies and the matrix, they fired all their bullets. They can't start printing again, I'm a misogynist. They can't get the daily mail to do a new story on how I'm dangerous. They've done it all. They've run out of ammo and I'm still alive. They've emptied the clip and it hurt me, but I got up. And now they're like, quick, quick shit. What else are they gonna do? What are they gonna do? What are they gonna say about me now?
Starting point is 02:42:32 Can I tell you why? Sure, well, because you talk about institutions being behind certain high profile individuals, states that as you refer to, while Joe Rogan, you couldn't cancel Joe because you have sees behind him or in a chapel. He was 12 to 24 months away from him. He wasn't there. Yeah, no, not yet. Yeah. But the institution, it's not a formal institution, but it's certainly an institution,
Starting point is 02:42:55 is you've won the hearts and minds of young men. Right. Across the planet. Right. And even if you get canceled on social media, you still have millions and millions of young men that's like, where's the date? And we want the date. And this is why they killed me early. They killed me early because they knew I was gonna get to this state should stay this. But the problem they don't understand
Starting point is 02:43:14 is that inside of every single young man, there's a rebel, whether it's the punk rock rebels, whether whatever it is, every single young man has a degree of rebel in him. So when you take their hero and marr her him, what does that do? It solidifies the rebel statements. I've had, you wouldn't believe. I've had 17 year old kids from Slovenia, email me, trying to give me their life savings of
Starting point is 02:43:37 two and a half thousand dollars. Anything to help you, the amount of money they're trying to, I like bro, I don't need money. Thank you. These kids will do anything to keep me alive. Like, it's true belief, it's true belief. That's why they tried to annihilate me. They thought we have to annihilate him now. He's gonna get to a point where he can't be annihilated,
Starting point is 02:43:54 but it didn't work. In fact, it re-solidified it. I had to find other platforms, perhaps it slowed it down, whatever, but the hearts and minds are still there. There was a video that was on my Instagram of when I went to Slovenia. Slovenia, I've never been Slovenia in my life. I turned up in the sheer on.
Starting point is 02:44:10 I parked outside a hotel, and then you guys seen it. There are five or 10,000 people outside the hotel screaming, top G, top G, top G, I'm in the room. These two chicks, they're looking at me and looking at each other like, you're getting top G tonight, like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, each other like, you're getting told G tonight, like, I'm not here to get sued. They were standing there for hours.
Starting point is 02:44:30 We had to call the police. They're like, it's a different level of movement. And that's what they're scared of. And I also want to say this publicly to them, because I believe they are watching. I'm not the enemy to the systematic powers. I'm actually very intelligent. When you're saying earlier about Logan knowing his place. I'm not
Starting point is 02:44:47 here to try and become king of earth. I'm not here to get suicide. I'm not here to do any of that. But I do have a huge contingent of young men who believe in me. And I do understand that the things I'm teaching them are good for them. And by extension, it will be good for society. I'm not trying to take over the world. Right? I'm not trying to do that because I don't want to end up in a position where I'm against people who run the world. I'm not stupid, but their attack has failed. So now they have to sit and if they have a brain analyzed what they're going to do next.
Starting point is 02:45:15 St. status is coming one way or another. I truly and I really believe that. I'm already having conversations with very important people. I'm rumbled with the first people who stood up to me and said, you know what, we've got your back 100%. Including financially. And they offered me a huge financial incentive. I said, you know what, don't worry about that.
Starting point is 02:45:31 Let me just, you keep the stocks, don't worry about it. But I don't need money. And when you don't need money, it also puts you in a very, very powerful position. It's very rare you find a man who has that much influence. It doesn't want money. I don't want money. I believe in what you're saying.
Starting point is 02:45:44 Let's do it. I believe in this. Let's do it. I don't need money. I believe it. I really believe in perhaps you'll disagree with me because you have more money than I do. Once you get past a certain number of millions, it's the same. What are you going to buy? How many stakes can you eat? I don't gamble. I don't take drugs. You eat vodka's cheap. I have my house. I have 27 cars. They're not to buy. I have diamond watches. I really, although I talk about making money and I talk like I'm a money-oriented person, I do that because you cannot truly escape from the matrix of your poor because they use it as a control mechanism
Starting point is 02:46:18 against you. But once you get past that, it doesn't matter if you have 50 million or 75 million. Your life's the same, 400 million. Your life's the same. I don't need more money. It's not interesting to me. What's interesting to me is living a life that's true to God. I like being able to go to sleep at night, knowing I'm happy with myself and who I am. I like knowing the things I say on podcasts
Starting point is 02:46:35 are good, genuine, influence on the world. I like if something bad happens to me, which happens to everybody, I can go to sleep knowing that karma is gonna reward me because I'm a positive influence. I don't need to sell my soul for money. This is the thing the Logan does not yet understand. He still thinks selling his soul's worth it. It's not worth it for money. I don't need money. It's not about money for me on any level. It never will be. So I do believe St. St. St. St. is is coming. You have a very, very powerful
Starting point is 02:46:59 point. And also, this is what you have a level of power control I don't have, right? You have a certain status and power, you're right, I don't you have. But I do certainly not really believe it's coming just because of the feedback I've had. It's been absolutely monumental. On the day of my banning, I got 94,000 emails. 94,000 people took time out of their life to just email me support. It's insane. It's insane. They haven't tricked anybody.
Starting point is 02:47:24 It just proved me right. You know what's the crazy thing about, you know, in America, my dad's It's insane. It's insane. They haven't, they haven't tricked anybody. It just proved me right. You know what's the crazy thing about, you know, in America, my dad says, if they want to see you fall in America, do it. America loves seeing a personality fall. But what they love even more than that is redemption. It's a very big infatuation Americans have with that. So you think about Tyson coming on knocking everybody boom, he loses the bus of Douglas. Oh my gosh, bus of Douglas
Starting point is 02:47:52 is and then now he's coming back up. Then when they see the new Tyson, so there's a part of anybody that's going through the momentum, the highly, highly exponential momentum, Tyson experience, your experience, it doesn't happen to often. Most people, they grow 12%, 24% they grow. Very few go like this. Yours was exponential. But the part that's exciting, most people, you're not 55.
Starting point is 02:48:19 You're not 45. You're 35, 36 years old, which means the evolution that's most exciting my watch in you is, which I hope you don't take your foot off the pedal. I hope you push full throttle with the rumble. I hope you fall on, keep going with your content because you're going to evolve. Some's going to happen in your life in the next five years. You're going to evolve.
Starting point is 02:48:41 Some's going to happen by the time you're 45. You're going to evolve. And then you're going gonna talk about different things and some perspectives are gonna change, some perspectives are gonna adapt. That's what makes the journey of the hero exciting because everybody learns as you go through it. Absolutely, and not early.
Starting point is 02:48:56 And that's one of the most beautiful things about being human. And I was talking earlier about the redemption arc. And you mentioned earlier in my final video how I said I'm glad that this ban happened to me And one of the reasons I was glad is because it gave me a chance to address the consciousness of the world There were certain rumors about me which had spread like wildfire and the unfortunate reality of the internet is If there's a rumor about you All right, how many times you dispel it if there's more clicks and more interest in
Starting point is 02:49:21 How many times you dispel it? If there's more clicks and more interest in perpetuating the rumor, that's what people are going to do. And this ban is to a degree a chance for a fresh start because it allows me to discuss all the rumors. People talked about me hitting a girl with a belt and me being a woman beer. That same woman has made three videos subsequently. Three saying it was consensual, it was a long time ago, he's still a good friend of mine, but no matter how many videos she makes, right? The video of her saying this is bullshit,
Starting point is 02:49:50 gets 10,000 views, and the video of me being a woman, or gets millions of views. That's the nature of the internet. So you need a mass extinction event, you need something big to happen to address it. The other big thing that's against me is the fact that my house was rated by Romanian police and people talk about me being a people trafficker. And that's a really, really interesting one. It's interesting because I actually kind of think it's a perfect storm. Some of the other things I say about accessible corruption or the fact that I live in Romania, which has a bad reputation, makes people think, ah, so he's a criminal over there and he can get away with it, et cetera. Let me tell you something about Romania.
Starting point is 02:50:27 They have a bad reputation for a few things, and one of them is people trafficking, which is age old, that was from the 90s. It's not case anymore, not at all. But they're very sensitive about it. The number one crime you'll get in trouble for in Romania is exactly that. It's the one thing that they're very sensitive about.
Starting point is 02:50:44 It's the image of their country. They're not gonna allow some guy to make their whole country look bad. It's like going to Dubai and bragging about fucking being the financial criminal or something. Like no, no, no, no, no, that makes Dubai look bad. So that's the one thing you'll get in trouble for. I wasn't doing it, what happened was,
Starting point is 02:51:01 and I've explained this at length. I was swatted, loads of people have been swatted. Someone called the police with a fictitious story, a complete false story. We were having a party at our house. There was a bunch of girls there. My brother and I got bored, decided to go to the casino. We don't gamble heavily, but we wanted to go play poker.
Starting point is 02:51:17 We went to the casino, left the party unattended. There was like 20 girls there in our PA. So there's only girls in the house. This is all on CCTV. This is the reason I'm not in jail. The girl gets a phone call. It's her boyfriend in America. It's where Massachusetts. I saw you on Instagram story. That's Tate's house. The girl, she was from Miami actually flew over to meet Tristan. She messaged you on Instagram. The girl said, oh, yeah, but I didn't want to be here. I'm trying to leave and hung up. So her boyfriend, I don't know, simped, right?
Starting point is 02:51:49 I don't know if he believed her. I don't know if he was jealous of us. I don't know what. Calls the American Embassy in Romania. It's if my girlfriend's being held against her will in this house. Now I have absolute respect for the Romanian authorities. I would hate to live in a country where they get a phone call saying a woman is kidnapped and they don't bother to do anything about it. That would be a terrible country to live in a country where they get a phone call saying a woman is kidnapped and they don't bother to do anything about it.
Starting point is 02:52:06 That would be a terrible country to live in. Of course they strapped up. Of course they turned up. They were very, very respectful. They turned up. They're all strapped. They're very respectful. And because I'm known in the country, Andrew Tristan, we've heard the support that it was a very cordial conversation. We'll look around the house, no one's here. We have CCTV in our whole house. They went to the cameras. They saw the girl on the phone, go out, get a pizza, come back, get an Uber home. They were like, well, this is bullshit. It's like, well, obviously it's bullshit.
Starting point is 02:52:30 I was swallowing, a guy effectively just made up a false reason to go. Tata, took us to the police station, do some paperwork. They came to the house, they initially just searched the house at five. By 8 p.m., they went to the police station, do some paperwork, by 8.45, we were released.
Starting point is 02:52:42 That's it. No one talks about that. Tates house was rated for human trafficking. He used a human trafficker. He's house rated for human trafficking. I have no charges. I'm not on bail. There's no criminal investigation. It's over. It's done. But the nature of the internet, Tate being a human trafficker gets clicks. Some girl lying doesn't get clicks as an nature of the internet. So I don't get a chance to dispel these things unless there was a mass banning event. and when I was talking to my team saying look we have to change the public image we have to change away correct certain things in the month before the ban we were discussing how
Starting point is 02:53:14 do we fix these rumors and it's hard because especially when you have massive detractors people who hate me don't want to tell the truth they hate me they just want to take anything they can get to attack me like I said they can't attack my physicality or my success so they want to take anything they can get to attack me. Like I said, they can't attack my physicality or my success, so they have to attack whatever they can get. So there are people in the internet who repeat the same lie on repeat, because that's all they want to say. So it was actually a blessing in disguise. So there's no people trafficking charges. I'm not people trafficker. The women's come forth and they may not beat women. Like all these things are complete false narratives, and that's why the banning
Starting point is 02:53:41 was a good thing, because it allows me to finally get everyone's attention, say listen calm down. I know I I've talked to you but you can't just be a human trafficker and run around the world and not and get away with it like this that's in sanding that's that's great. It's almost like a fresh start clear the air all right after the smokes go and let's see what we got. It is it's a fresh start and although I don't believe my enemies and detractors are logical enough and intelligent enough and also non-emotional enough to accept it's a fallacy and simply stop saying it, what it does do is the matrix is fired every bullet it has. It's the empty clip.
Starting point is 02:54:14 They fired the, he's a people trafficker thing. It's been proven false. They can no longer repeat it. They can't take the bullet back and reload the gun and shoot it again. So instead of having it as a nagging annoyance, instead of having it as the odd bow and arrow shot at me for the rest of human time, I'm glad they shot me with the M16 and it's done and I survived. Top G, here I am. And I can finally understand that it can't be repeated and it's finally gone away. If anyone listens
Starting point is 02:54:38 to my content, I champion masculine strong men who protect women. That's what I champion. I say all the time, people trying to say I'm negative and my minds sets are negative. If you call a police officer in the heat of battle, you want men brave like me. If you call a fireman, you want him to charge into a burning building. You want men with the tenants I teach. We are protectors of society. We're absolutely not the predators of society. It are the people who are my detractors, the ones I talked about who are objectively unattractive and objectively unsuccessful. They are the predators, not successful, man. I have no need to kidnap anybody. In fact, I beg them to leave my house. I'm not going to
Starting point is 02:55:14 buy them to stay. I'm like, listen, the party's not young lady. Please go home. So it's it's absolute insanity and I'm glad I can finally clear the arrow now. You know, I'm talking to Shaq two weeks ago at the event and Shaq at the MGM Grand Arena, we're having a conversation. And I said, so tell me about your upbringing, your relationship, values, and principle that your dad taught you. And he says, my dad would tell me, if you listen to me, I'll make you the most dominant big man of all time. So your dad told you that, he told me that. Okay, what else? And all these other stories you hear about with Shaq and his dad, you'll make you the most dominant big man of all time. So your dad told you that. He told me that.
Starting point is 02:55:45 Okay, what else? And all these other stories you hear about with Jack and his dad, you know, his dad would say, he finished his, he was a drill sergeant, so everything was yes sir, yes sir, yes sir. He had that kind of a dad, very much of a disciplinaria, right? Who raised them? What are some stories with your pops, you know, you obviously a lot of it has been heard. But what are some stories about your dad on how you raised you interested? Yeah, my father was, I believe, the best father on the planet.
Starting point is 02:56:09 I think that every son should hopefully think the same with their father. I think a father's role is to be a superhero. I think a father's role is to, I think one of the big mistakes in modern society is that people think that father should be a second mother and I disagree. I think a father should be a superhero. And sometimes a superhero needs to go do superhero things. My father wasn't always home. He was away. But when he came home, he came home with a story. And I think that the quality of his presence was more important than the quantity of his presence. He raised us with absolute duty to our last name. He made it very, very clear for a very
Starting point is 02:56:44 long time that being a tape means something and that you have to live an honorable life and a life that's true to God because of that. And also his expectations to us were exceptionally high because we were taped when I did something fantastic. When I became State Chess Champion at age of five, or when I did exceptionally well my SATs, he moved me up to grades, et cetera.
Starting point is 02:57:02 I didn't come home and say, Dad, I did this and go, wow, good job. He was like, what are you gonna take? The, the, who are you competing against? I was like, well, the other kids are school. Who are they? Don't know, exactly. We're gonna take, of course.
Starting point is 02:57:13 So we always had this huge expectation of us. I made it clear that the last name means something and we have to stay true to it. And I think that this is kind of something that's missing from modern society. When you have a duty to your bloodline and a duty to your ancestors, that is something which you carry with yourself away from cameras and away from the eyes of the outside world.
Starting point is 02:57:34 So it's been something that's been massively beneficial to me. Even when I went through hard times in my life, I understood that being a tape prevented me from doing anything that's detrimental to myself. Even basic things. We talked about, let's say heartbreak. If I had my heart broken when I was young, instead of chasing a girl and embarrassing myself, I could sit in my room alone and think, I'm a tape, I can't do that. I can't, that's not how it takes act. Love you very much, goodbye. I missed her along my heart, but that was the game. She's, I go fuck someone else and just be heartbroken a while and get over it,
Starting point is 02:58:03 because I felt a duty to my last name. So what he did exceptionally well was instill duty to the bloodline and duty to the ancestors. We understood who my family were, understood where we came from, knew who my grandfather was, my great-grandfather was, etc. And he always had very, very high expectations of me. And it's often interesting people say, you know, if you have two high expectations on kids, it's bad for them to dud-ud them that it up. I can only talk from my personal experience. The fact that such high expectations were held for me were a massive benefit to me. My father was a disciplinarian. He was also in the Air Force. If I fucked up, he hit me. He never beat me. He never abused me. But there was certainly a realm in which I, if I fucked up, get slapped. It only happened to twice maybe, ever.
Starting point is 02:58:45 But I knew it was an option. Your father was only hitting twice in my life, yeah. And I said this, I said this on Twitter when I had a Twitter account. Someone saying they hit kids bad. And I said, yeah, I understand. You can't abuse kids. It's fine line. I know it's a very nuanced detail argument. But in the real world, there are lines that if you cross violence
Starting point is 02:59:07 appears, if I get in your face as a man, and start running my mouth, soon or later, it becomes physical. That's the real world. So as an upbringing of a child, I think there should be lines that if they're crossed, violence appears, I don't see anything wrong with that. I was never abused in any way. But if I really fucked up and both times now and behind, I'm like, I fucked up massive. And I learned. And I was taught, oh shit, that's a line. And I think especially with young men, if there's never going to be a physical line, what line is there? Especially with young rebellious men. I don't know. But maybe that shaped my mindset for a long time, because I always understood there are lines that if you cross things become physical
Starting point is 02:59:46 and I've always kept that in mind for how I conduct myself. I say this all the time, I once again, I send some YouTube videos, I don't argue with people. If I get in a disagreement on the street, I don't argue, I don't, hey, bro, you parked, I thought who I am, I'm like, okay, bro, leave it, leave it.
Starting point is 03:00:00 I leave it to the last second until I feel it there's no other choice and then it's pure violence. I don't, because I don't see the point in arguing. That's feminine to me and a verbal argument. I try my very best to de-escalate because you never know you're fucking with and you never know if they want to have another jail. But there's a line and it gets to that line where that's the only possible repercussion. That's all that can happen and I try very hard to stay away from that line but I've always been very aware that line is there and that serves me very, very well in my life. The morgue and the prison,
Starting point is 03:00:30 both of them are full of egos and and because I know I can handle myself I'm the number one guy to talk down a fight but once I realize that talking ain't gonna work I'm the complete opposite and I think that that was taught by my father. Wow. That's how I was taught, you know and have you seen him fight? Did you ever see him fight? So my father, I have a saying, I have a saying, which is my most famous saying I say. I said at the end of the final video, my unmatched Perseucacy couple was sheer Indifitigability makes me a fear of ponder
Starting point is 03:00:54 in any realm of human endeavor. And for the people watching, it means unmatched Perseucacy or ability to perceive and understand the world, pay attention to things and take in all the different variables, pay attention because a lot of people don't. Coupled with indifitigability, the ability to never become tired makes you a feared opponent in any realm of human endeavor.
Starting point is 03:01:11 So if you pay attention to everything and you analyze the chessboard correctly and you never give up, it doesn't matter if you're trying to climb out Everest, it doesn't matter if you're trying to escape a social media band. You're a dangerous guy. He doesn't quit and he pays a bunch of attention. That's a guy you don't want as an enemy. And my father said that. I heard my father say that. The story behind it is we were in Detroit. My father was a world-level chess player. He was an amazing man, but he was to a degree, a flawed man, let's say. He liked to gamble. My father's attitude towards life is something I've also adopted, because I've even said
Starting point is 03:01:43 it myself. I'd either want to be filthy rich or flat broke. I feel like slavery's in between and I said to my brother when we had no money, let's just move to Thailand. Let's just move to Thailand and fight and just live on 50 bucks a day and just run around the beach and have our time back. What are we? Slavening away a job to pay the rent and then we're broke. I'd rather be, I either have to feel like I'm gonna make it,
Starting point is 03:02:05 which is quick capitalists. I don't wanna be in between. And my father was the same. So he wanted chess tournament, a low level one. He made like $3,000 or something. And he said, listen, son, the rent's paid and I even want 100 grand or nothing. It's just who I am.
Starting point is 03:02:20 So we went to Casino, lost all the money. Casino's a bad place to go and try to get rich, but that's my dad lost all the money. So then we were in Detroit and we're hustling in a park. My dad was a chess park hustler. He'd go into the parks and he'd sit down and say, you go and get 10 minutes. I get a minute on the clock. And he'd play 10 games simultaneously while they had 10 minutes each and he'd have a minute. And he'd sit there and just and just smoke them all for money, right?
Starting point is 03:02:43 And take all the money in. So and we'll talk about world-level chess players because I'll make it clear I do not have the intellect to be a world-of-chess player. Even though I have the genetics it's something you're born with. It's kind of like being a human calculator. It's something in your brain. You can't train. It's like learning to sing. You can learn to sing but you're not going to be moriah carry unless you're born with it right. The way his mind worked was a different level of intellect and I don't possess it. And that's a blessing and a curse because I'm better socially than he was. He was not very sociable as a person. And in these high-level chess tournaments a lot of them are not very sociable people. And we
Starting point is 03:03:14 could talk about that at length, but so he made some money and went to a gas station in Detroit. And I remember this vividly. I was about eight or nine years old. I went to the back to the coolers. I opened to get a drink. I heard all this noise. And when I turned around, my dad was fighting three men. And I don't know how the fight started. I don't know where it came from. He had one of them up against the door. And he had him up like this and he was biting his face.
Starting point is 03:03:40 And the other two are punching my dad in the back of the head. And I'm a kid. I just stood there like the fuck and the Korean guy behind his shouting, stop, stop, stop, stop. And I'm standing there. And I went, I didn't know what to do.
Starting point is 03:03:52 So I kind of went to walk over. And although my dad was getting punched, although he was biting this guy, I remember him turning to me and saying, stay there. And went back to biting the guy. I don't know the fuck, to this day I don't know how the fight started.
Starting point is 03:04:04 Korean guy came around the back, kind of got in the middle, the guys went out, they threatened to kill him. We're gonna fucking kill you like gang members. We're gonna fucking kill you. My dad had blood all over his face, some from the guy, some from him, his eye was black, his eye, his eye stuck in that fracture, his eye was closed, his bum's all back to his head.
Starting point is 03:04:18 So we stood there and the Korean guy started panicking. He said, am I stored damage? My store, wait, please, wait, please, wait, please. And I think my dad was a bit disorientated. He never went down, but I could tell he was a bit dizzy. So my dad stood there and he stood like this, like in like military position, stood in the corner of the place
Starting point is 03:04:31 and wait for the police officer to come and the police officer came. I'd start doing reports, ask what happened, start talking to reports, et cetera. And the police officer said to my dad, so you fought these three guys, he goes, okay, well, what's your job? My dad said, I'm a chess player., you go, okay, well, what's your job? My dad said I'm a chess player
Starting point is 03:04:46 And the police officer said, well, maybe you should have been something else My dad said my unmatched first peccacin helpful with sheer individuality makes me a fear to ponder than any realm of human endeavor I remember him saying that was his answer to the police officer. So the police officer was like I was like, yeah, he's broke up with me. That's the only time I ever saw him fight. And he didn't win. I mean, God, I fucked up, but he didn't go down. He dealt with all three of them, and they ran.
Starting point is 03:05:18 They left in the end. So that's the only time I ever had him. Did you see Rage in him? Like, did you know he had the rage or no? His personality was a different personality. No, my father certainly I ever had it. Did you see Rage in him? Like, did you know he had the rage or no? This personality was a different personality. Now, my father certainly not really had rage. My father was a super unique individual. It's hard for me to even explain.
Starting point is 03:05:34 You have to imagine a big black guy, big physically dominating dangerous guy, who's a chess genius, but also he was extremely, he was extremely condescending, but I understand why he was the way he was. When you're wired like he is, everyone is a moron. And when I say he had photographic memory, if he goes, oh, I know someone's photographic memory, no, you don't. I'm talking about what's your phone number? It's cool. Six years later, just on a pay phone.
Starting point is 03:06:08 It's like, how the fuck? Just everything you told him, you remember. Everything. And that becomes a detriment. Because if you remember, and you pay attention, if you remember every number played at every car around you, then you're in a car with the guy, and he's like, last Thursday, that car was beside us.
Starting point is 03:06:23 That was it. I don't know. Of course you don't know. You don't know. I do know that car is beside us next Thursday. Do you believe in quins? It's like, well, maybe it is a quins. Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't. And then you can't argue with him because you don't know if he's like, well, you're not smart enough to remember all the number plates on. So you just leave this to fucking me. And then you turn off the road because this dude might be following you and I'm not saying he was paranoid. I'm saying the world he lived in was a scary world. That makes sense.
Starting point is 03:06:46 You're remembered everything all the time. And it also means you can't really function in society because you can't have a job. You can't listen to anybody. You can't socialize to anybody because that's the fucking moral. So he had this weird, he had a huge, my father diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. And I do believe he had it. But people say I have it, but I don't. When you have true narcissistic personality disorder, you truly believe you're almost invincible.
Starting point is 03:07:12 Because I understand like a guns were pulled on and you go, you think that's going to kill me? Shoot me, you find me get furious. Like how dare you believe a weapon can kill him? It was fucking. Enraged. Like that's who he was. So yeah, he was a super interesting guy to grow up around
Starting point is 03:07:27 because it's weird to be around a dude who's so big and so strong and also so smart. And you have to just accept second place all the time. And then you're arguing about number plates on some fucking Corolla from Thursday. And it's like, so how did you process that? Was it, was it,
Starting point is 03:07:39 I'm always gonna be in this shadow or was it, I wanna make him proud, was it, I still have his genes, was it? We're destined to do something big. What, because in most instances like that, it's more like, yeah, I'm just gonna be his son. Versus to come and create your own identity with that kind of a shadow.
Starting point is 03:07:59 That's not easy to do. Completely. And he always, he made it very, very clear. My father was also quite a morbid man. I think because of his life even in his last years he spoke all the time about he had conversations which were you'd be sitting at the table and he said are you prepared for my death? You just be like well that will and test the way you're talking about like are you prepared like he'd talk about dying he'd talk about me being the oldest son. He talked about me having to carry the torch.
Starting point is 03:08:25 He talked about stuff along. How soon did he start doing that, at what age? When I was young, 1920. Got it, quite young. He died October 17, 2015. Correct. So you're saying 19, should that would be your 35, 25, so 16 years ago, 2006.
Starting point is 03:08:42 So 10 years before he passed away, he's talking to you that way. He's talking about death, he's talking about what talking to you that way. He's talking about death, he's talking about what that's gonna mean, he's talking about how I have to carry the family torch, he's talking about my responsibilities into East, he's talking about the fact that I need to evolve and be a better version of him.
Starting point is 03:08:54 He talked about these things a lot. Now, he also used to, he, till the day I was an adult, he still had a superior complex over me, and I respected. My dad used to say things like, all your champion now, you know, there's probably only one man left that could whoop your ass. That's who he was right. He's still believed to be
Starting point is 03:09:09 She got to love that. Yeah, he's to believe the competing is who he was. He's like no you're maybe champ But there's one man left to go whoop your ass And that's who he was and I had so much respect for him. I was like yeah, because you know, you're right So that's just how he was as an individual but um I think it's the opposite. He set such a high standard in certain regards that I knew I couldn't just be some normal guy. I feel guilt.
Starting point is 03:09:34 I feel dirty if I was just some normal dude. Like I can't just be under his sun. You know like in the old movies when you watch Conan, they say, take the son of Ditta, I was always the son of Emory Tate, even at the chest tournaments. This is the son of Tate, the son of the son of the son of the expectation was there. And instead of it preventing me from creating my identity, I was actually the opposite. Okay, I have to be fantastic. And I was cerebral enough. I said to my dad, look, I can't be as good at chess as you can. I don't think
Starting point is 03:10:02 I can do this. And they say, well, you could, but belief is a huge part of it. So if you don't believe you can, then what else are you gonna do? Because I remember telling him, I don't wanna play chest anymore, he said, that's fine. But you're not gonna not play chest
Starting point is 03:10:13 and fucking watch TV. You play chest for six hours a day, so you need to come through the plan for six hours a day, son. What are you gonna do with your life? And I chose fighting because I said, listen, chest is one-on-one competition without luck, without team, no ball, no wind to blow the ball on the net.
Starting point is 03:10:28 What if I fight? So okay, I respect that. You can be a fighter. So it was, he wasn't trying to force me to do anything, but he was very regimented individual unless we was, and I have so much respect for him, and he was my superhero. I wanted to be like my dad.
Starting point is 03:10:42 And even from a very young age, if you were to Google up my dad and look in the chest community, they called him ET for every tape, also ET like the alien because he was a bit strange. But the way he played chess was so on orthodox that sometimes he had some spectacular losses, but sometimes he had some spectacular victories against some of the top players in the world. So everyone was scared of him because he played with such recklessness that he was like all his blitzkrieg. If you get through it, you survive, you get to be him. But when it's coming hard, or the heat's on,
Starting point is 03:11:10 he destroyed some grandmasters so badly that they took like a year away from tournaments, like genuine embarrassment. That's how he played. So nobody wanted to play my father, because it was a risk, right? Because he's only taught 200 in the world, but he's smoking top 10, sometimes he loses,
Starting point is 03:11:27 but sometimes he'll fucking take your head off. So he was an anomaly. So whenever I went to a chess tournament, they're like, takes it, takes it. There's always the rumbles in on, takes it, fuck sake, takes it, takes it. So the name was always feared. And I think that was part of it for me.
Starting point is 03:11:39 I wanted when I turned up to a fight event, takes it, takes it. I want my name to mean something, right? I wanted to mean something like, and that was always very important to me, and I turn up to a fight event, it takes here, it takes here. I want my name to mean something, right? I want it to mean something like, and that was always very important to me, and I was just told, look, you want your name to matter, then you have to go make it matter. It's not gonna matter by default.
Starting point is 03:11:53 And if you have good parents, and some hardship and some trauma, I think any man can become anything they want to be. How did he bring the two of you guys together? Like, what would he say, it's three of you. It's you, your brother and your sister. What would he say to keep you guys together? What's it, hey, you guys can never backstab each other.
Starting point is 03:12:12 You guys can never, like when the whole example we give him a Logan J, Logan and Jake, do you, that doesn't make any sense. What did he say to you and the two of you guys? Or the three of you guys? Yeah, so that's a really good question. He was very, very focused on my brother and I, our relationship and making sure we're close.
Starting point is 03:12:25 And he just made it clear that as you excel in life, you're gonna have a lot of enemies. And if you can't rely on your brother, you can't rely on anybody. And even when we were kids and we would argue, I remember one time we were arguing over Lego, dumb shit, kid dumb shit. And we were in the dining room,
Starting point is 03:12:42 and we were arguing over Lego, and my brother ran in there and said, Andrew stole the Legos He said I don't have time for this bullshit arguing over fucking Legos and He my brother was crying so we had a little fight and I hit him or whatever And he put us in the dining room. He said you're both staying in this room in fucking silence For two hours straight my here are noise. I'm restarting the fucking I'm starting the time to sit here And we're both scared even hit from him right so it's it's shit. So we sit there and we're sitting there
Starting point is 03:13:06 looking at each other to ten and eight year olds. Cry and do each other. And as soon as one of us would like move on the seat, so I'm starting again. I have two hours of sitting in perfect silence. It got to the point where me and Tristan learned just don't argue around that because you're gonna end up just sitting in silence, staring at each other in the face, just sitting there. So we just didn't argue around that anymore. And then by extension, Mom was like, I told your dad, so it was like, oh shit. And then we just stuck arguing completely.
Starting point is 03:13:34 Me and my brother have not a serious argument. In years, we just agreed, we'll like, okay, we just agreed that it'll be five minutes, ten minutes. But we never, we never will never ever argue. We share everything. We live in the same house, all the cars we share, bank accounts, besides living in an underwear, you name it.
Starting point is 03:13:53 We share absolutely everything from head to toe. We've never ever ever argue. And another key to that relationship is Tristan accepting on the older road. That is a big key to it. Tristan will accept it. Full door alpha. There's a difference. It is a difference. But I. Tristan will accept it. Hold your Alpha. There's a difference.
Starting point is 03:14:05 It is a difference. But I also think if we ever do truly contest, he will say, okay, well it's 50-50. And I might pull out this card once a year of that, but you're the older brother. So there's still is that older brother. Meen, he knows you're the older brother. I think so.
Starting point is 03:14:18 Yeah, I think he knows you're the big brother. You're the older one, so. So if we're over 50-50 on a call, I'm the older brother. So that's it. But I also, I'm like a social media company, no one to use my power. I also know when to concede. I went to say, you know, okay, you know more about this or you know more about that or you're more, you care about this more than I care. I don't give a shit. Whatever. But very, very early, I can pull that car. But he was very, very interested in creating that relationship and making it very, very clear to
Starting point is 03:14:40 us that as my father lived in a combative world where he was surrounded by enemies in his mind. Whether it's a Corolla with a license plate, whether it's people trying to kill him, whether it's the KGB agent, the KGB agent at the Chester tournament who threatened him in Russian, my father was fluent in Russian. He always had enemies and he was actually attacked and very badly hurt and butted past in 1998. He played an in-chest tournament, he beat a Russian grandmaster, and then he was jumped and beaten in the subway, had to be hospitalized and he really killed him in a subway in Budapest in 1998.
Starting point is 03:15:13 He believed it was a hit from the KGB, but the guy who was the next KGB guy, I personally think you just beat an XKGB guy and pissed him off, wrong place, wrong time. Eastern Europe was different in the 90s, they hurt him bad. So he lived in a very combative world, and in his world it was Andrew, they're going to come for you. You're a tape. They're going to come for you like they came for me. And if you haven't got Tristan, you haven't got anybody. And he always taught combatable paranoid. And that's the thing. You're paranoid until you're right. You're going to be paranoid for 20 whole long years. And then it goes down. So it's hard to once again say it's again, like when I talk about my father,
Starting point is 03:15:46 we talk about, let's say the number plate things. What's this person following them? No. But that's his world. Your mind is your world. If in your world, we talked about believing in things and giving it power. If you believe you're being followed, you're effectively being followed.
Starting point is 03:16:01 Like what's the difference, right? So he was paranoid, but he was reacting to the reality he lived. And that was who he was. And he had enough unfortunate incidents involving pure violence to know that the world can get violent quickly. And this is the difference between fighting and violence and talk about this all the time.
Starting point is 03:16:18 People say, oh, tape, we're a fighter. And I say, listen, I grew up in a world of violence. And even to this day, I know some very, very violent people. And there's a massive difference between fighting and violence. I've seen genuine violence and it's an ugly thing. Like, if I, as a, I'm a fighter, right? But if I had a real beef with someone, let's say they killed a member of my family,
Starting point is 03:16:38 I wouldn't be trying to fight that man. I'd be aiming to be violent. And SUV on a pavement is violent. You know, 10 dudes with machete is violent. Violence has, violence is when you don't allow any chance of victory for the opponent. Violence is no, there's no competition involved. Violence is just pure attack.
Starting point is 03:16:55 And my father's been subject to that and he survived it. But he's seen how it works. And he's just made it very clear. Andrew and Tristan, your best hope is together. You can't do it apart, you can't do it separate. And this is also, I think, a lot of our mentality, even to simple things like girlfriends, because a lot of brothers, they get different girlfriends and they move in with their different girlfriends. And their girlfriend doesn't want to hang around with their brother, because they're too busy having fun getting girls, and all this kind of shit,
Starting point is 03:17:19 and to a degree, your relationship with females kind of tacked your power dynamic of your brothers. But me, my brother never allowed that. If I sat with a girl and she said, oh, your relationship with females can attack your power dynamic of your brothers, but me, my brother never allowed that. If I sat with a girl and she said, oh, your brother's, I don't like your brother. So listen, you better learn. You can learn or you can leave his house. This is your house. This is our house. You can choose.
Starting point is 03:17:37 You like to take brother. You like me, obviously, romantically, but you like him. He's your best friend. Or you can leave this house. And some girls are left. That's fine. But we've always allowed nothing to get in between us. And I think even if I analyze the Paul Brothers of Jake and Logan,
Starting point is 03:17:49 I think if you look at their podcasts carefully, they talk about some girlfriend, they go fuck the same girl and all this stupid shit. But he's your brother, bro. Look at the fucking same girl. She's forgot about both of you. You know it's crazy. You go, I have that blood bond.
Starting point is 03:18:04 And I think in many other cultures in the world, this is more common. Like I grew up in Luton, which is a primarily, it's in England, but it's a very, very Muslim town. And all the gangsters and dangerous people, and even the most successful businessmen, all of them, when I was in college were Muslim guys. And I was like, Hey, guys, what's your fucking secret? Like, how you doing this? You work in a chicken and chip shop, a fast food restaurant, and you're pushing a lamb bone. How?
Starting point is 03:18:29 It's like, well I've nine brothers. It's okay, but what does that mean? It goes, no, because when you guys, when you used to call me white, when you white boys have nine brothers, you all get nine girlfriends who go pay nine different rents. When I have nine brothers,
Starting point is 03:18:39 that means nine women move to the family house, they all cook and provide, and that's nine men go make money and pull up family income, suck we not on the Lamborghini. And on the nine men go make money and pull up family incomes, how can we not have a Lamborghini? And on the house we're in. And the house we're renting. It's a different mentality.
Starting point is 03:18:50 How much did the Muslim religion have influence over you? I think that it's the, I respect. I have so much respect for it because I respect anybody who says what they mean. It means what they say. I feel like they're the only religion you do. I feel like every other religion is so wishy-washy that it doesn't mean anything anymore.
Starting point is 03:19:07 I don't believe in ignoring the tenets of your own religion for acceptance or for mainstream news to like you. Then what do you have? They say what they mean, they mean what they say. And primarily they focus on family and their own. And I have to absolutely respect that. And like I said, I grew up around these huge Muslim families
Starting point is 03:19:23 where all of them had pretty unremarkable jobs and they still had property portfolios and supercars. I was just like, okay, that's the power of brotherhood. That's all they had. I only had one brother. I wish I had 10. Imagine there was 10 take brothers. Oh, no, I don't think that's it.
Starting point is 03:19:36 Imagine the world then. Can I ask you a question about your father? I don't know if anything's asked you. I don't know how spiritually you are. I know you say you're a man of God. Yeah. I don't know if you believe your father looking down on you. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:19:48 You said that he had a narcissistic complex. Yeah. That even when you became world champion, 18 is like, you got one. One other dude who up your ass, Andrew. If he could talk to you now and see what you're going through. All the highs, the lows, the money, the women, the cars, the this, the that, the banning, all that. What do you think your father would say to you right now?
Starting point is 03:20:07 And what do you think you would say to your brother? That's a really good question. I don't think he would comment so much on what's happening to me more than he'd come out on how to handle it, which has also been a massive source of strength for me. Like if you were to come back to life for a day, I don't think we'd waste much time talking about the matrix and why they're doing it. I think he already had an innate understanding of that because of how he lived his life, how he was attacked.
Starting point is 03:20:28 He already understands all of them. It would just be how I am dealing with it personally and how I'm using it to my advantage. The moves on the chess board. And once again, when I was saying before about using your last name and the duty to it as a master's source of power, that's been a master's source of power to me my whole life and during this experience. They've attacked me from every angle, they've tried to destroy me from every angle.
Starting point is 03:20:47 I'm a tape. This is good about five. They push that palm, and I'm about to fucking record. That's just who I am, right? So I think he'd be far more happy with how we've handled it as opposed to commenting on what's actually happened. And my father was very, very family-oriented. The other thing he'd be very, very big about
Starting point is 03:21:07 is talking about me, my brother, making sure that we have progeny and raising them correctly. He made it very clear to me for a very long time. The most important thing you can do is have children. This is the most important thing you do, the rest of it. It's the link to the link you told us. He said, in fact, on his own Twitter account, my father's not banned from Twitter. He stopped tweeting in 2014, maybe fact, on his own Twitter account, my father's not banned from Twitter. He stopped tweeting in 2014 maybe? Taked terrific on Twitter. Look him up right now. He has a few tweets on Twitter. Obviously he's dead. The council dormit. It's all there.
Starting point is 03:21:33 Taked terrific. And one of his tweets is, love is my link to the future. I have three kids. If I could live forever, I would deny it. The better versions of myself already walk here. So he said, I said that before he died. So yeah, he has all his tweets and still to this day, sometimes I'll go back and read some of his tweets. And it gives me inspiration. I'll give you another one he said, I read only a few days ago,
Starting point is 03:21:53 because I read through his Twitter accounts sometimes. He said, I allow manipulation to see where my enemy wants me to go, then I use my mind to break the trap and punish all perpetrators. I like it. So he'll watch the news. I used to see my dad watch the news, allow the manipulation. Watch it all. Turn it off and say, son, this is bullshit.
Starting point is 03:22:15 And it's it there and dissected all. He had to tell. So he'd allow manipulation. He wouldn't deny it. He wouldn't say, no, don't come at me with bullshit. Say, oh, you have a bullshit story. Come tell me your bullshit story. Come tell me. He would say, don't watch the news. No, no, no, no, tell me.
Starting point is 03:22:27 Tell me. And then he knew his mind to break the trap and punish the perpetrator. So he was very understanding of this. And a lot of his tweets are good for these kind of things. We're saying, allow them to attempt to manipulate you. It's no problem. A lot of things says, one of the things I said earlier this podcast was his, you must analyze every firmly held with belief you have, realize where it came from, who gave it to you, and if they have your best interest in heart, resist the slave mind. You said all this stuff, it's all to eat it out. So yeah, he's still alive to the degree. You know, so whether he's watching or not, he's, he, he, on one of my Instagram posts,
Starting point is 03:22:59 which got deleted, there was a, uh, Pavekken, the boxer. It was, uh, it was, uh, interaction in his corner, the 11th round on a title fight for Pavekian, the boxer. It was an interaction in his corner, the 11th round on a title fight for Pavekian in early 2000s. And his corner was saying, do you miss your father? And he said, yes, miss the father. If you become champion, he lives forever. And he's right. If you become remarkable enough as a man,
Starting point is 03:23:20 they talk about your origin story. Which is your father. So it is my duty to my father to be the man I am. Totally. No one would be talking about my dad, maybe in chess circles, but no one would be talking about my dad and mainstream consciousness if I wasn't who I am. No doubt.
Starting point is 03:23:33 So I keep him alive. And it is my son's duty to do exactly that for me, to keep me alive. The man who all banned and broke social media, big tech monopoly. This is my son's job. So this is what's so important. This is who he lives forever through. And I will live forever through my son. And that So this is what's so important. This is he lives forever through Yeah, and he'll live through it for and I will live forever through my through my son That's a beautiful thing about it. Can I say something about Pat? I don't know how much you know, but but it's a lot of similarities in your guy's story
Starting point is 03:23:53 Right, his biggest influence his biggest hero in his life. No doubt is your father No doubt and you have deep sense of history. You also have a deep sense of the bloodline and legacy, you know You have deep sense of history. You also have a deep sense of the bloodline and legacy, past, present, future. That's a clear understanding about you. Pat, you have a similar thing, man. You talk about the bet David. In this house, the bet David,
Starting point is 03:24:15 it's the last name, the last name of this, it's almost like shapes greatness. My father, I was like, dude, I'm trying to be the exact opposite of you. I don't have a very tumultuous later with my dad. Yeah, but a lot of the story that Andrew's saying, you must identify within yourself. No question about it. Like the whole big David tape hardware tapes were just together. They were walking with Dylan. Dylan's my eight year old. And I said, Dylan, you realize we have the most powerful lesson in the world.
Starting point is 03:24:41 And he says, yeah, I know. 30 seconds, ladies, not saying anything. He says, daddy, how do you know that? This is, that's all that matters, are you believe it? You just have to believe it. It's as long as you do your scored away. This is, I believe it. I said, that's all that matters. You're a bit David. So I understand what you're that was in with you.
Starting point is 03:24:58 But let me ask this. So I run a sales company and my style of teaching works with it used to work only with one type of personality Yeah, and I realized I'm one dimensional Then I went to adjust because I was only attracting single guys that don't have any kids and they're 18 to 25 years old Yeah, and I said no, I'm selling insurance. I got to be able to adjust and relate to the married man. So then that opened up and there was three different ways of communicating with three different audiences. Then it goes five, seven.
Starting point is 03:25:32 So now you become multi-dimensional. Did your dad's messaging resonate with your sister because your sister is a lawyer? She also is successful. How did she receive his messaging? Yeah, my sister is very successful. She is a lawyer, and I do think it resonated to a degree. However, I think my father's worldview was so primal and so based in many things which have a masculine edge, like threats and violence and enemies, and things that women don't
Starting point is 03:26:00 truly consider, that I think his teaching style was far more akin to men. I think that's just how he was. I think that it's easy for a man to adopt. I don't think that many women, and I don't want to be able to massage this, this is just my worldview. I don't think many women have a true, because it's not their job to be,
Starting point is 03:26:18 to some degree, they feel like men should protect them, to some degree. Most of them, I don't feel like they have a true akin to threats sometimes. I give a million different examples but if I go on a date with a girl on a restaurant the first thing she wants to do is put on Instagram instantly. Oh, like don't know, whoa, whoa, whoa. You can't, we're here now. Like you can't be putting that we're on in this restaurant with the napkin and the late,
Starting point is 03:26:40 that's how they kill pop smoke. Like calm down. But it doesn't consider their mind as a threat or that many women don't accept that there are groups of men right now sitting in rooms scrolling social media looking for someone to get. Look at for someone to get. They're just sitting 10 brothers from Funtnos where sitting there just going, hmm, ah, that was 10 minutes ago this tag. Oh, Mr. Brigade.
Starting point is 03:27:02 Yeah, it's real.. But it's real. This doesn't really cross female consciousness sometimes. And I understand why, because I think if a woman knew how dangerous the world is, she wouldn't have been housed. So it's easier just to not look at that world. But the way my dad taught and the things he said, it resonated with me, my brother and my brother,
Starting point is 03:27:20 and my sister, my sister, is still very, very successful in her own way. And she's married now, and she's a kid, and she has her own man, et cetera. But also, my sister is still very, very successful in her own way. And she's married now and she's a kid, except for when she has her own man, etc. But also, I think when a woman gets married, she takes influence from the man she marries. A lot of different things, but my biggest male influence was my father always will be. There will be no one else to agree with. But you agree your sister should take the influence from her husband.
Starting point is 03:27:37 Completely. That's the man she wants to be, and she wants her son to replicate the man she's had a gig with, then yes, she should take his influence. I completely respect that and understand it. But my biggest male influence in my life will always be my father. If she wants her son to replicate the man she's had a gig with them, yeah, she should take his influence. I completely respect that and understand it. But my biggest male influence in my life will always be my father, it can never be replicated or replaced, where it's her's possibly cooked. Tristan's your best friend, brother, business partner, the whole thing.
Starting point is 03:27:55 What would you describe your sister as? My sister's your sister? Yeah, my sister's my sister. Yeah. And I wish her the absolute best. I'd nothing bad to say about her. I wish her the absolute best. But the bond being my brother have, I don't bad to say about her. I wish her the absolute best, but the bond being my brother
Starting point is 03:28:07 have, I don't want to say this in any kind of negative way, I don't feel like I couldn't live with my sister full time. Like in a same house, talking about, it just wouldn't be weird. I don't know why. I always think there's going to be some degree of disconnect just because of the gender. Someone hurt her.
Starting point is 03:28:21 I'd be the first person to be there and help her, of course. But she belongs to her man now. They're married. They're happy. They're in love. They have a child. And she has a degree of separate life. My brother's lives will always be interconnected to the end. How do you get along with her husband? It's a good guy. Yeah, it's a really nice guy. Yeah, it's nothing bad to say about me. Funnily enough. He's alright. He's alright. He's a good guy. We don't want him to end up like Tony. Yeah. What did you say?
Starting point is 03:28:48 I think you know what it is though. The whole point is, one, the person has to want to receive the message to the person selling the message. The messenger messaging may only relate to a certain audience. It may not relate to everybody. It's not easy. This messaging that your dad's teaching, that taught, this is not a popular messaging where it's like,
Starting point is 03:29:15 you know, Jordan talks about in last dance. He says, if it wasn't for his dad, he wouldn't be who he is. If it wasn't for his brother, he wouldn't be who he is today, right? There's a scene where his dad's like, ah, whatever, Michael, just go, you know some man, you wouldn't be who he is today, right? There's a scene where his dad's like, ah, whatever Michael, just go,
Starting point is 03:29:26 you know what's the man, you're not a man. You go out there and just play with your toys, we're gonna go out there and fix some things. And Jordan says, when you're going through it, it's psychological torture when someone's doing that to you. Like your dad is doing that to his challenge unit. But he obviously responded to it. He became an assassin in the game of basketball
Starting point is 03:29:44 because he received it, right? The individual has to receive it as well. The individual has to receive it. And also an assassin in the game of basketball because he received it Correct. The individual has to receive it as well. The individual has to receive it And also, but I think the modern world's changed because there's a lot more opposite programming to your parents and they're used to be I used to go to school finish school come home play chess I was never really allowed to really watch too much TV. I didn't play Nintendo too much. I played chess That was it. So I really did so besides the school teacher and a little bit of school I had I didn't have too much outside programming from the matrix itself. But nowadays when you're raising a child it's far more scary because you're trying to teach them things, that's fine.
Starting point is 03:30:12 But YouTube's trying to teach them something else. And Netflix's trying to teach them something else. And school is trying to teach them something else more than ever before. And on top of that, if you're not a wealthy individual, your wife now has to go to work, right? Because you have two incomes to pay the bills. So she isn't even, your children are not even at home with the mother or the woman who adopts with your ideals, because otherwise, you wouldn't be together. Now, they belong to the state effectively
Starting point is 03:30:35 in many different ways. The school racism, then the aftercare program, then the internet racism. So now you have a very difficult job, and you'll see, even if you look at YouTube now, children disagreeing with their own parents about certain issues, no matter what they are, so topical issues, politics, LGBT, whatever,
Starting point is 03:30:52 the parents will say, no, that's not true. Well, I heard in school, it's true, because they spend more time inside the matrix than they do with their own parents now. And it's very, very difficult now as a parent to get that hard time with your kid and say, resist that, I want you to be this way. It was easier when I was raised.
Starting point is 03:31:06 Now with that scary, I think that's actually, it's a very, very difficult job parents have now because of that. Because the programming is exceptionally strong because it's entertaining, right? And we've all developed ADHD and we've all glued to social media and addicted to our phones and things are coming through the phone.
Starting point is 03:31:20 And that's the argument they try to use to ban me. I argue that I'm a positive force and a star more negative forces to me on the internet which are trying to infect the children than I am. That's the argument they tried to use to ban me. I argue that I'm a positive force and a scar more negative forces to me on the internet which are trying to infect the children than I am. That's the argument I have. I'd argue that I'm the complete opposite to it. But yeah, it's a scary world. It's scary to have a choice.
Starting point is 03:31:33 I have a simple question for you, but it's actually very deep. Because you don't understand where I'm going with this. How many times have you seen the movie The Matrix? Because this is a major theme of yours. Yes. And Pat, I don't want to let the movie, The Matrix. Because this is a major theme of yours. Yes. And Pat, I don't want to let the cat out the bag, you just saw it for the first time.
Starting point is 03:31:49 To be fair. To be fair. Okay. So how many times have you seen The Matrix? 15, 2015. This has a major influence in your life. It's a concept. That's correct.
Starting point is 03:31:58 Right. It's an easy way for me to express in a few words how I view the world words. I've adopted something from popular culture and I've adapted it to try and quickly explain. If I try and sit and explain that most people are being used for their resource, they're being projected a reality that isn't true, they're convinced of things that aren't true, they're promised that if they slave away hard enough at the end, at the end, you'll retire. At the end, they'll be good, which is a lie.
Starting point is 03:32:25 And they're just used for their resource until they die to get into that and explain that at length is difficult. But if I say you're inside of the matrix and they've seen the movie, what do you mean? You're inside the matrix, you're living inside of a projected reality and your body heat is being extracted in real time for the machines. That's what's happening to you. And I don't understand. You will understand once you break free.
Starting point is 03:32:43 How do I break free? You break free when you can talk freely. You will understand once you break free. How do I break free? You break free when you can talk freely. This is the thing that's amazing. And I talk a lot about money, but I'm not that financially driven. I just understand if you don't have money, you can't have an opinion. You can't say what you think. You can't do what you're not told to do, because then you can't pay the mortgage.
Starting point is 03:33:01 If they say where a mask to come to work, even no matter how much you know that mask is fruitless, you must pay the mortgage. If they say wear a mask to come to work, even no matter how much you know that mask is fruitless, you must pay the bills. You must comply. That's the matrix. You have no force but to comply. It's only when you get to a point of money where you can say, no, my principles are worth losing X million. That's when you can escape the matrix. Money is a primary motivator to escape. I've always been interested in freedom more than money. It's all about having nice things. It's all about having nice things. It's about having freedom of mind and freedom of thought and freedom of autonomy of my own body.
Starting point is 03:33:29 That requires money. Or it requires a complete opposite, like I said earlier. It's either no money, do it on the street, or a lot of money. Anywhere in between, you're controlled. But if you ain't got shit and you're on the beach, we're a mask, get fucked. Get fucked.
Starting point is 03:33:43 We're gonna take my house, ain't got one. No. So we'll give you a fine. Sure. Go on, man. Like I got you money. Like so that's the only way you escape. You escape through extreme poverty or escape through well. And I was prepared to take you the route. I'll for her to take either one. I want to go to that topic, but I want to finish up the family thinking it will go there because that's a big part of look, there's a lot of interesting people to psychoanalyze. Yeah. I'm sure you've sat a lot of people
Starting point is 03:34:05 that try to psychoanalyze you and go through it. A lot of them. Most important person I psychoanalyze is myself all the time. Absolutely. One time I sat and I had a list of 83 questions that was given to me. And one of the questions was,
Starting point is 03:34:19 who knows you the most? Why? Who do you get along with the most? Why? Who do you not get along the most? Why? Who do you get along with the most? Why? Who do you not get along the most? Why? And then I'm at the beach. I'm going through this cushion like holy shit. Then you notice a trend like no wonder I don't get along with people like this because you remind me of this. No wonder I get along with you because you bring a certain level of safety. No wonder I'm okay in these types of chaotic situations
Starting point is 03:34:47 because I feel peaceful in chaotic situations. No wonder I'm scared shitless and paranoid when things are too peaceful. Because I don't know, I don't know, I just kind of was a judge of that. So then you're like, okay, now I understand who you are guy.
Starting point is 03:34:59 Now let me live with you. It's kind of like you're living with yourself. So influence of that over you, what positive or negative influence you talk about your dad is that women, what was it booze gambling? Why'd you talk about that? We also talk about the positive influence of that. What positive or negative influence that mom have over you? Yeah, so my mother was fantastic.
Starting point is 03:35:20 She was an amazing mother. She, I don't know, I don't know if I can talk about positive and negatives. My mother was very much subservient to my father, which was a good thing. They used to have arguments, et cetera. And I think I learned a lot of my lessons, I guess, on male female dynamics, to a degree from my childhood. Like, I remember one time my father was away at chest
Starting point is 03:35:40 tournament for a month and a half, it was way for a really long time. He was at chest tournament playing chest all over the country. Came back for a month and a half. He was way for a really long time. He was at chest tournament playing chest all over the country. Came back after a month and a half within 45 minutes him and my mum are arguing. I thought you should found something in his pocket at phone numbers. I don't know what it was.
Starting point is 03:35:53 Start arguing. You just walked into the house. I started arguing that it came down to me and said, son, give me a hug, give him a hug and it goes, all right, see you in a few weeks. He's like, where you going? And he goes, when you're older you'll understand. Your mother won't shut up. Walk out the door, see you in a few weeks. He's like, where you going? And he goes, when you're older, go understand. Your mother won't shut up.
Starting point is 03:36:06 Walk out the door and see him again for two weeks. That's the new he was. Like, ah, come home. Oh, you want to know, you want to fuck this fight? Sorry, he was, as a man, right? So I learned, I'm almost saying that I'm that way, but this is my childhood, right? I saw it.
Starting point is 03:36:18 But my mother was quite subservient to my father. My father was certainly a disciplinarian who certainly the man who's in charge of the house. My mother did her job fantastically. She taught us how to read. She fed us very well. She made sure we ate good. And my dad's basic tenant was,
Starting point is 03:36:32 your mother is in charge of keeping you alive. Food, go to bed on time, eat good, go to school, that's what she's in charge of keeping you alive. But I'm in charge of teaching you how to be a man in a corner of the world. So we have different roles. So she's gonna keep you alive. I'm gonna turn charge of teaching you how to be a man and conquer the world. So we have different roles. So she's gonna keep you alive. I'm gonna turn up when I turn up.
Starting point is 03:36:47 I'm gonna teach you some shit. I'm gonna teach you how to live. I'm gonna teach you how to live. And they're different things. So they had very clear defined roles. To this day, my mother, she's still alive. I retired her completely. So the first thing I did when I got rich
Starting point is 03:36:59 was retire my mother. First thing I did, because my mother was a, when they broke up. So this sad story of my father, which I've never told while tell it now My father got my father's in the Air Force. He discharged After they diagnosed him with narcissistic personality disorder. They offered him a full military pension $6 or $7,000 a month saying that you know, you have this mental disorder will give it to you because you were such a Fantastic member of the Air Force.
Starting point is 03:37:26 My dad was actually in intelligence. Some right wing people on the internet think I'm a CIA plant because my father was with intelligence. I'm not a CIA plant. But my father was an intelligence. So when my father joined the Air Force, he got on the bus, like everyone else did back then in Alabama, got on the bus.
Starting point is 03:37:41 You go, you do an IQ test, my father did so good. They moved him to intelligence. and my father to this day held still holds, I believe. At the time of his death, he still held it. The fastest assimilation of a foreign language. So back in the eighties and nineties, if they needed someone to speak Russian, they'd train a native English or American person.
Starting point is 03:38:00 Nowadays you can get a Estonian or a Latvian because they're a pro-EU and they speak Russian. Fluently, it's easy. Back then, you needed a Russian speaker who'd teach them. So they taught my dad Russian. He learned Russian fluently in 15 days, he had to tell. So he held the fastest simulation of a Russian language. I know that because when he died,
Starting point is 03:38:16 he got a message on Facebook, Metta. I got a message on Facebook from a guy who I'd never heard of, just saying, how you don't know who I am. I was in the air force with your father. I heard of his passing. I don't know who I am, I was in the Air Force with your father, I heard of his passing, I just wanna let you know that I was in the same place as your father, I was a linguist also for the Air Force. At the time, I was living with a Russian woman,
Starting point is 03:38:33 and we spoke Russian fluently in the house, and your father and I started classes at the same time, and I can say it was certainty, the way your father learned things was inhuman, it was robotic, within three weeks, he was correcting me on my Russian. Yeah he was that that's who he was right so he spoke Russian and Spanish and German we were also in Berlin at Fall of Berlin wall so he did a lot of things he was a linguist so he used to listen to the bugs
Starting point is 03:38:54 if they bugged the room he'd listen to the bug in Russian and translate it so that's what my father did anyway when they discharged and they said he'd not necessarily the story and the reason they said he had that is because he refused to listen to one of his commanders. I don't know the exact story, so I don't want to say on tape, but he refused to listen to one of his commanders about a recording on a tape. And my father was arguing with him about the translation
Starting point is 03:39:15 of a certain word. My father believed it was slang for something else, superior believed it was something else. They went to a personal beef, it developed over months and months and months of arguments about translations, and eventually, in my dad eventually I ended up being told to sweep outside for eight hours a day. I got to the point where my father got to charge.
Starting point is 03:39:32 So they just charged him, they diagnosed him in the person I disliked, so they said he wouldn't listen and they offered him this military pension and he refused it. He said, my sanity is not for sale. And I know that line because my mother used to scream all the time when we were broke in the house. You couldn't have money, you had money. My sanity is not for sale. And I know that line because my mother used to scream all the time when we were broke in the house. You couldn't have money, Henry. My son, he's not for sale. Because we were broke. That one was broke, right? So I remember the bargain, Henry, we couldn't have money now, we're broke. So because he became a professional chess player, he couldn't pay the bills and we were living in Indiana and South such a cargo, we were in the ghetto,
Starting point is 03:40:01 no money. So I remember him saying that all the time. So Eventually my mother was it was English. We decided to move back to England because England has social housing You get free house and you can get benefits and that kind of thing we move back and my father stayed there So I didn't see my father very much from the time I moved my mother was always charged to keep me alive And he was just in charge of like giving me the lessons and stuff So yeah, it was an interesting life, but he was he was a super principled man like he turned down money What was actually interesting towards the end of his life? About three or four years before he died. No, no, it must have been way before that, because I didn't have money yet.
Starting point is 03:40:35 Maybe ten years before he died, he called me and said, you know, I've been principled for so long and the way the world's turning and what American government's doing, and maybe I should have just signed. Well, do you think I should have just signed? Didn't say maybe, should, do you think I should have just signed? So no, dad, no, you get to live with the pure heart. You shouldn't have just signed.
Starting point is 03:40:55 Your mother's saying, I should just sign it now, and it's like a bad thing. Sign what exactly? Sign that the narcissistic personality to sell his sanity and get back pay, which at the time would be like half a million dollars Yeah, I just by the way just so you know a lot of people slam it a lot a lot of military I mean you know people who got out a you sign you get all this incredible pension back pay
Starting point is 03:41:16 And why do they want you to sign this why do I want his father to sign this they want to sign Xeam its fault It's all your fault. You're wrong about everything your psycho your psycho. You're Santa's for sale. You're Santa's five thousand dollars a month. You're a disability. Yeah. So he found out that he could get back pay if he signed it. So he had a long conversation with me and I said looked at I think he could be the right thing. I'm so proud of you. I talked back and forth. He said, you know what? Your mother is the time in my money. Your mother is a dinner lady. My mother was a dinner lady at this point. After we moved England, we had some things, but she was a dinner lady. My mother was a dinner lady at this point. After we moved to England, we had some things, but she was a dinner lady.
Starting point is 03:41:46 She got like $400 a month of clean and plates. She had arthritis, she was starting to get bad knee from standing up all day. Because you know, I'm like with her anymore, she calls me so many headaches, but I can't let her just wash dishes on. I might just sign it. I was like, well dad, the choice is yours.
Starting point is 03:42:00 My dad agreed, he goes like, I'm running out of time anyway, I'm running out of life. I've taught you boys a lesson, you know what did I need to sign it? Went to the military to try and sign it for the back pay, they declined it. He said, ah, you're not crazy anymore. No, wouldn't give me money. Funny that.
Starting point is 03:42:15 So let's talk about that's another story. So when he died, when he died, I still didn't have that much money, but then after he died, about luckily I started to make money by year, two years later, and because he tried to retire my mother, obviously I also have an own debt to my mother. The first thing I did when I made money was to retire my mother.
Starting point is 03:42:32 So I'd say to this day, about 15 to 20% of my income goes to my mother. She has panic attacks. Like she'll check her bank and be like, what is it? This is too much money I can't buy. She's like scared of it. Like just buy a Lambo.
Starting point is 03:42:44 Jill, it's fine. so I make sure she's super What he's taking the Lambo? Yeah, what's up bitches? She's running around the world I'm shit so I retired my mother that was one of my dad's last attempts at appeasing her So yeah, she's retired so I have a really good relationship my mother But my mother has absolute trust in me like my mother just calls me and goes, even during this ship storm, she goes, Andrew, they're really coming for you.
Starting point is 03:43:06 They're like, I know you know what to do. I don't know what to do. I'm like, stay on the cruise ship, mom. They're all about it. I got it. I got it. She's not like above me. It's hard to explain.
Starting point is 03:43:15 She looks up to me. She's like, you fix it. Of course, you're the leader of the household. But an interview was done, we'll Bill Clinton. I'm reading this book called, not First-Straight Madness, it's the other one, hypomanic edge. And Bill Clinton's mom was bipolar.
Starting point is 03:43:29 And one of the things he finally said is this interviewer is trying to get information on his mom. And he knows that the mom has issues and they're going back and forth. He finally says, look, there's zero benefit for me saying anything bad about my mom. A daughter can say it, a son cannot say. There's zero benefit for me saying anything bad about my mind. A daughter can say it, a son cannot say it. There's zero benefit of saying anything bad about your mom coming from the son,
Starting point is 03:43:52 which there's a lot of depth in that messaging with Bill Clinton. But I want to transition to the next part with values and principles because to me, you know, certain things I'm paranoid about or whatever word you wanna call with my wife's, I was supposed to be with that, or what's this, you know, you're always thinking somebody's after you because a life you live, I'm like, listen, unless you really fully understand a life of persons lived,
Starting point is 03:44:22 you're not gonna know why they're wired the way they are. You know, you're recreating yourself constantly, but there's also the life you've seen. This is the life you've seen. We've not seen the life you interest in it. But when I watch, you're like, okay, strong personality, high self confidence, comfortable in his own skin, B.M.F., bad ass, great communicator, charming,
Starting point is 03:44:48 charismatic, persuasive, all this stuff. Stuff he says about women, five wives, all, you know, playing around, constant, all this stuff. But I feel a strong level of conviction and traditional values and conservative values. And then I'm listening to you, I'm like, okay, so I grew up with certain men that I've influenced over me, hey, why do you interview all these mobsters?
Starting point is 03:45:14 I grew up watching Godfather too and Good Brothers and you know, and there's certain things amongst them that I really respect. I forget about the stuff about, you know, the murder, the killing, the set that aside. But certain code they had that they worked together with, it kept things safe. So this is why we like watching Casino. We like watching Godfather.
Starting point is 03:45:33 We like watching this. You ask any Fortune 500 CEO, half of them are going to say, what's the movie that influenced you the most? Godfather too. Godfather too. Godfather too. As much as we're like, well, not a real life, but it will be fine, but not a real life. But where is the conservative, strong values that you have?
Starting point is 03:45:52 Again, this to the average person watching, and say, how are you talking about it? This the same guy that I talked about, woman shouldn't drive, woman not just woman not this. I feel like it's there. I feel like sometimes you don't fully bring it out. I feel like you're, it's almost like, you know the saying, I work with a leader for many years,
Starting point is 03:46:09 who the saying was, never show her. We never show her. You're never show her. You're never show her. Never show her. You're never show her. And you're like, never show her. I'm never freaking show her.
Starting point is 03:46:20 Hell no, I'm not show her. Because I'm not gonna let you have one and over me to vulnerable and then you use that to get something out of me. I'm not for it. I can do not do you. Never show her. Never show her. And then the other side is, but if people are going to really know who you are, you've
Starting point is 03:46:33 got to show a little bit of vulnerability from people to know who you are. For you, values, principles, deep down inside, traditional, is it real or is it just a pure, you know, confusion I have here with my, you know, understanding of you? No, it's absolutely not really real and I think that it is based in the natural, I think it's a natural tendency to be conservatively minded if you are masculine and also if you are competent. I feel like a lot of my traditional masculine values just come from my respect in myself and my confidence in my self-indane situations. If I'm recently, I was in the Romanian mountains, it's hard to snow heavily. There was a blizzard, I was with a girl, it was her car.
Starting point is 03:47:14 She goes, oh, we have to drive home, it's not going to drive. It's my car, it's my car, it's my car, it's my car. It's like, is this a blizzard? She's like, oh, okay. It's not me being misogynistic. It's just, I know I can drive in a blizzard. I just trust me. I just trust myself. And I trust future self even more than I trust
Starting point is 03:47:32 my current self, that makes sense. So if I have a situation now where I have a play to make and it seems semi-risky, I'll think, well, future Andrews even better the current. It's a future Andrew, oh, four years from now, he'll fix it. Let's say it goes wrong, a future Andrews got it. If current Andrew can pull X off, future Andrew can pull Y off. So we're going to take the riskier option with a bigger reward, for example. Obviously, you don't have to be stupid.
Starting point is 03:47:58 But I think that when you have true belief in yourself and you have true competence, you're going to naturally inclinate towards being a protector and a provider and have these conservative values. It's really interesting that the closer a society is to the survival line, the closer people naturally bends to their gender roles anyway. So let's say we take America, right, where you have feminists and fall hard liberals and all this garbage. If they were all marooned on a desert island, let's say there's a ship wrecked,
Starting point is 03:48:25 they got marooned on a desert island. One of two things would happen. They'd stick with their Western world garbage and perish. Or they would all quickly align to the natural baselines of humanity, the gender roles. The men would build and hunt, the women would gather and look after the sick, and then they'd survive.
Starting point is 03:48:42 The closer you are to survival, the more important you are. The more important it is that you align to your gender role, because if you don't, you don't have a chance'd survive. The closer you are to survival, the more important you are. The more important is that you align to your gender role, because if you don't, you don't have a chance to survive. So in countries where it's harder to survive, the more traditionalistic. It's only in very, very privileged societies, can we pretend that you do not need a man who can protect himself and others?
Starting point is 03:48:59 So that's a very privileged society, right? So I think when you have a hard life and you've lived a life on edge, you're naturally going to be inclined, inclining towards those things, towards reality and towards conservative values and towards traditionalism because that you know that gives you the highest chance of survival. I have a highest chance of survival if I focus on doing X and I am this type of person and the woman next to me is this type of person and that gives us the best chance. And that makes me the best chance.
Starting point is 03:49:25 And that makes me a traditionally masculine male and her a traditionally feminine female, especially living a difficult life. Does that make sense? So, and especially in many parts of the world that's still true today. And most of the world that's still true today, we're talking on these podcasts
Starting point is 03:49:38 to extremely privileged individuals. We wanna sit and throw away 98% of how the world functions to say it's bullshit, and come along with this brand new Think they've invented for the last 15 years and I say this often I say you find me dangerous That I say I said something that's got me in a lot of trouble. So I'll say it again I said that if I had to fly if I was gonna go on a plane that was gonna fly through the eye of a hurricane and There was a 50% chance of it crashing I would prefer a male pilot than a female pilot
Starting point is 03:50:08 if I'm going to just lost her mind call me a such an instinct I said no I think that men are calmer under pressure I'm not saying the pilot assuming they have the same skill I'm talking about just the pressure of the plane crashing in my experience men are calmer under mortal pressure than a woman would be.
Starting point is 03:50:28 She might panic and then we're definitely going to die. I'm not saying she would panic. I'm not saying all women would panic. I'm saying if I had to choose male pilot or female pilot for this semi-suicide mission, I would choose a male pilot. That's my life experience, right? Everyone will attack me for that, but that's just a life I've lived. My extension,
Starting point is 03:50:45 if I had to drop my children off at nursery, I want to drop my all-female nursery. I'd never drop my three-year-old or four-year-old kid if I had one at an all-male nursery. That'd be weird. So to me, this is how most of the world still functions. This is how the Western world function till 10 or 15 years ago. And I say these things that I'm vilified, but I truly believe I wouldn't be so popular and not so many people would resonate with me if large swath of the population didn't go way up kind of a point, I guess. I don't think it's that bad. I think a lot of the world is still quite conservative, even in the West, is just a very, very vocal minority that have all the control of the narrative that are trying to convince the world otherwise. I think the majority of even
Starting point is 03:51:23 real happy relationships demands a man-to-man woman's woman. I think the majority of even real happy relationships demands a man, the woman's a woman. I think that's a pretty standard, perhaps I'm wrong. But in my experience, certainly. No, I think it would be interesting. You know, a lot of your audience, I mean, it's wide. If you said 18 to 25 year old men, women too. Yeah. I think it would be amazingly interesting
Starting point is 03:51:41 if you sat down with a room of 80 year olds. Yeah. 80 year old men and women. And you know what these people are called in America. They're older than baby boopers, you know what they're called, that generation. Not a traditionalist. Oh, there you go. Okay. I'd be very curious to know what old people would have to say about tape.
Starting point is 03:51:59 I doubt that any of the older women, or the older men would try to be canceling tape to be like, yeah, that's, but everything we've ever known. But this is the thing that's interesting because the feminist narrative, when I say things, like the male pilot, for example, the feminist narrative is that I'm a controlling man who wants control over women. The actual truth is I'm a protective man who wants to protect. And being a man in a position of protecting is not always a good thing. I feel indebted and have a duty to myself and my honor. Meaning that if I'm walking down the street with a beautiful woman and three men want to attack her, I have to risk my life now. I can't live my life
Starting point is 03:52:34 letting my wife get gang raped on a fucking street and running away. I can't take it as a man. So I have to now die. I have to die or try, I have no choice. So that's my duty, but they'll ignore that part. They'll ignore the part where I risk my life, right? And they'll say, oh, but you just want to be controlling with such a nist of, no, no, I have a duty to protect. I'm calmer under pressure because I've been in more unfortunate situations.
Starting point is 03:52:58 I've had more trauma in my life, which is train me to be more calm under pressure. I would hate to meet a woman who's been through as much trauma as I have. I love the kind of, that would make a good woman. I don't think women need trauma at that level. I don't want women who've been stabbed. There's no need for that, but I have been through it. So I think that in my experience, extrapolation,
Starting point is 03:53:18 that men who are successful, a lot of them have been through enough to meet to trust the more in a high pressure situation. And like I said, this comes with massive responsibility. This comes with massive detriment and downsides, right? And the feminist is like, no, you're controlling, it's not about controlling. It's about duty. There was no feminist on the Titanic. Then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then,
Starting point is 03:53:36 then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then can leave you'll see them parrying in Warsaw and Prague Ukrainian men can't leave the country they're dying in a ditch
Starting point is 03:53:46 they have to stay in fight not single feminists is demanding that the women stay in fight not a single one they don't give a fuck when it turns real once it turns hot that it's whoo straight up when you want sandwich sure well what do you want to say sir what do you need then it all goes back the closer you are to the real world, the closer people instantly get into their gender roles. Because otherwise they get annihilated in real time. That's another thing I said.
Starting point is 03:54:12 When I was getting called a misogynistic and I was arguing with them and I said, traditionally men are the leaders. And in ancient societies, men were in charge. That's because men are oppressive. You've oppressed us forever. That's their narrative. Their narrative is that we've oppressed women forever said no
Starting point is 03:54:26 We've protected and provided you forever the reason we are leaders is because if we align with our gender roles A man's more likely to lead and that gives us a more competitive chance in the old and world Where all the empires were currently fighting if you're not as competitive as possible? We're gonna be annihilated. I would argue that perhaps there were some civilizations where women were in charge. But we don't know who they are, and we can't discuss their history because they were fucking annihilated. In real time, by the ones where the men were in charge, because you are hyper-competitive, you're at your optimum when men are in charge. That's just the optimum of the gender roles. That's the way it really works. I don't believe we've been oppressing you since the dawn of human
Starting point is 03:55:04 time. I disagree. I believe we've been oppressing you since the dawn of human time. I disagree. I believe we've been working hard protecting providing for you. If men were truly oppressive to women, why don't we send the women to war? Women on women, it's fair, right? We can send all the women to war in Ukraine, all the women to war in Russia, they can die, and we can chill, and we can go to Warsaw and drink vodka. We don't do that. The men of Ukraine and the men of Russia are dying to protect their women.
Starting point is 03:55:23 And then they want to sit and say that we're bad. It's a completely skewed worldview. Whenever they come along and say that we're oppressive and that we have the most money in all this bullshit, it's a lie. We are going out of our way and giving up our lives to protect and provide. And this is where it comes to some of the other things that they said against me. I've said, a man has a degree of authority over something he has responsibility for. They took this and they used it and said, I think that man has authority over women.
Starting point is 03:55:50 It's not what I said. I said, if I have responsibility for something, I must have a degree of authority over that thing. If I have a car, if it were to be parked in the wrong place or for me to drive too fast, whatever, whatever, for me to be responsible for the actions of that car, it must be my car. If it's parked in the wrong place but it's not mine and I'm not allowed to drive it, then I'm not held accountable. For me to be accountable, I have to have responsibility by extension.
Starting point is 03:56:16 That gives me a degree of authority. So what I was saying is, if a woman comes to me and lives with me and I pay the bills and she travels the road with me and she flies on jets and we go to boats and she's taken care of. I'm responsible for her safety if we walk the street at night. I ensure her life is in perfect order. I have a degree of authority where I can say you're not going to go out and night by yourself, it's dangerous. Or we're not going to go to this country right now, it's dangerous.
Starting point is 03:56:39 That's a degree of authority that I have that comes with my responsibility from a protective manner that does not mean I am oppressive, that does not mean I'm misogynistic. It just means that responsibility and accountability are linked and they can't be decoupled. A captain goes down with the ship because the captain is responsible for what happens on the ship. If the captain gives orders and everyone ignores him then he isn't going to go down with the ship doesn't. He is he has authority because he is responsible. Two things are the same and once again people have misunderstood then he isn't that bad. And when the ship doesn't, he is authority because he is responsible. Two things are the same. And once again, people have misunderstood what I've said.
Starting point is 03:57:08 And that's what I said, and a healthy relationship, perhaps in my relationships. I'll talk from a personal perspective to that I can't be attacked. In my relationships, I am responsible for the emotional security and for the physical security and the physical responsibility, the physical security of any woman I'm with.
Starting point is 03:57:22 And by extension, I have a degree of authority over her to make sure that we, as a couple, proceed and progress in the best possible way. It's not going to be 50-50 if I'm in charge of the most important things. It's going to be like, listen, I love you very much. I respect what you're saying, and you're totally right about this. But on this one point, I'm sorry, I'm going to be the man we're doing it this way. We're going to go to trouble. By the way, we're here.
Starting point is 03:57:44 Like I think we're all here, but you've got to in trouble, by the way, we're here. Like I think we're all here, but you've got to in trouble because the analogy you use is like, you compare women to children or to animals and say, I have responsibility over my child or over my dog. And then people take the short clip and like, he thinks that women are like children
Starting point is 03:57:57 or women like animals. The children, yeah. The children one, the children one was actually interesting because that was a slightly different one. With children, I was making a joke and it was semi-saturable, but like all my things I'm not gonna make jokes anymore because Zuckerberg gets upset, deletes me. But I made a joke saying that when I travel quickly I like to travel with just men.
Starting point is 03:58:15 If I'm going to a place for a week I'll take women, fine. But if I have to hit let's say four countries and two days on the jet I like to only take men. And they said why? And it was a joke we're all sitting on a podcast. They said, well, traveling to the woman's, like traveling like kids. They get hungry, they have bags, they need the toilet.
Starting point is 03:58:31 With men, it's just military, in out, boom, no sleep, in out, boom, no sleep, pack the bag, no sleep on the jet, no sleep, no sleep, no, you're gonna be military, you can get a dump. That's what I said, right? We have our marina over here, right? Okay, that's what I said. Yeah, what I take my girlfriend, she's like,
Starting point is 03:58:43 oh, we haven't slept in two days. I'm really, really hungry. And you're like, oh, so large. It's just different. So, and I guess taking out context and they don't accept the joke. It's a joke, to a degree, it's a joke. I mean, I still mean what I say,
Starting point is 03:58:57 but to a degree, it's a joke. The analogy of sexism. That's a question for you. If how much different, like, you know the story told about, one day you come home, your dad comes up and says, Andrew, I'll see you in a couple weeks. And he's out, right? In the context of what happens when there is a conflict, and we all react in three different ways, fight, flight, freeze. In that context, your dad is flight. Yeah. Here on Zavzad, I don't want to deal with it. I'm out of here. I'm a Dumas on
Starting point is 03:59:23 thing. Okay. In America, a lot of that is happening right now. We're two, single parents, single parent household, kids are being raised without a mom and that being there. And it's just one mom, you know, mom trying to do both and these boys, you know, my mom couldn't tell me what to do from a very once my parents got a divorce. I'm a single mother raising me,
Starting point is 03:59:43 I've seen my dad every other week. So it's not like he has direct influence to discipline me until I went into the military. Yeah. How much of that, like if you were to go back and think about, what if your dad didn't take the flight approach? What if your dad took the fight approach?
Starting point is 03:59:58 What if your parents were together? Would it have made a difference in you? And how do you view, you know, the idea of fathers being there with mom and dad together family, nuclear family, nuclear because a lot of times, you know, marriage no longer has, you know, the, the, the, what it once had, you know, like kids are better off being raised with a mom and dad. How do you process that yourself? Because you begin successful in that being in that environment. Correct.
Starting point is 04:00:27 So do you see it as well? It depends. There's exceptions to the rule. How do you process it? I think it's a fantastic environment and I think an idealistic world, that's the way it would be. I think the reason it's not happening today is that I don't think many men actually benefit from marriages or relationships anymore.
Starting point is 04:00:43 And people are always gonna have to require some degree of incentive. I think that we've set up the world now in a way where men are seen as worker droids. They're expected to go work all day, come home, clean up as well, share the cleaning with the woman, not have any, not no meal prepared for them, not have any authority over the household,
Starting point is 04:01:02 and just be a worker droid and be a sad. And I don't think that many people understand that men are intrinsically wired to desire respect amongst our peers and in our environments. This is why CEOs work so hard because they get respect in their company. This is why we all want so much money and fast cars and state as an influence because we're respected. Men desire respect like we desire oxygen. And if a man's coming home to a household where he doesn't feel any respect,
Starting point is 04:01:29 he's not going to want to be there for very long. And I think the way you fix this is you need to understand that many men don't have an incentive to be in the house anymore. I think that it's actually would be quite easy for a woman. In fact, there's a couple women who even say this on YouTube. I don't remember the names, but it'd be quite easy for a woman. In fact, there's a couple women who even say this on YouTube. I don't remember the names, but it'd be quite easy for a woman to make a man really happy with super basic things. Just go up to your husband and say, hey, you know more about this.
Starting point is 04:01:52 What do you think about this? That would make most men's world. There's so many sexless marriages out there with men who work their ass off, and they come home to a sexless marriage and kids who don't fucking even like them. If you were to just even ask him this question about some ass-in-eye bullshit, a long lower purchase, what's happening? If you would feel so happy to feel like the man of the house, that's what men need.
Starting point is 04:02:12 They need to feel like all this work I'm putting in, all this shit I'm going through, I'm respected for it. As soon as a man feels like he has no respect, that's the absolute end of a man's interest or a man's tolerance of a situation. I think this the reason it's happening I think I know a lot of men who completely love their wives. They love them with all their heart They die for her But he's just not respected in his house
Starting point is 04:02:33 He doesn't get to be the man of the house. Is it on him or is it on her like does he need to go earn it or is it? Unheard to provide it. It's a combination of both I think it's certainly on him to earn it But also the matrix programming is counter to him the matrix programming is trying to tell him that he shouldn't be allowed to be the man of the house. That he shouldn't be allowed to have any kind of authority in any regard. He shouldn't be allowed to be able to say what happens. The Matrix programming is saying the absolute opposite all the time. And if that's getting into your woman and you don't have that much influence and that's getting told your children, you don't have that much influence, now you're coming home to a household,
Starting point is 04:03:01 where everyone just thinks you're the dude who should just block your work You're just a worker to where you're the slate you're the robot and your feelings don't matter and your authority doesn't matter and get fucked And this is this is very conscious if you watch any Netflix show the mother is the smart one and the man is the bumbling idiot Turn our show I dare turn on a family show the mother is the one. Hey, hey calm down I'm smart and the man's look who beer Watch any of these shows. Felt like a sense of... All of it has made the show very... Any of it, all of it.
Starting point is 04:03:28 They're reducing the man to just bumpling at it. And it's very hard, I think, for a lot of men to accept being a position of constant disrespect. I'll tell you this now, if I had to choose a long lasting marriage with a woman who loved me or a woman who truly respected me, I might choose respect. Over love. Even though they're the same thing for a woman who loved me or a woman who truly respected me, I might choose respect. Over love, even though they're the same thing for a woman because she loves you, she respects you
Starting point is 04:03:50 by default. But if I had to choose, I'd choose respect. I've been through too much and work too hard and go through too much in day-to-day life to come home to my house and be having battles over Asinine bullshit. I take care of you and I love you with all of my heart. I would die for you. If someone broke into this house, I would engage the invader and die. I'd please just cook dinner, please. What do you want from me? What more can I do for you?
Starting point is 04:04:16 And once they feel disrespected, there's another thing about the world that a lot of people don't understand. It's disrespect that will drive a man to the most heinous of crimes. It's disrespect that will drive a man to the most heinous of crimes. It's disrespect that starts to school shoot or bullshit. It's disrespect that makes men go to jail for life sentences. It's disrespect. When you truly disrespect the man in a public and permanent way, that's when they switch. That's why I'm so respectful
Starting point is 04:04:40 in public. You don't know who to fuck your talk into. He might go to his last fucking straw and you just disrespect it. Hey, you're a fucking bitch anyway. You don't know who to fuck your talk to. He might be on his last fucking straw. And you just disrespect him, hey, you're a fucking bitch anyway. You skinny motherfucker, fuck you. You don't know. That might be the last time you heard it. I've had enough. You don't know.
Starting point is 04:04:53 Disrespect is dangerous, right? And in a household where you're constantly disrespecting a man, he's gonna end up depressed and sad for even accepting it. Men just wanna feel respected. It's not that hard to do. If a woman, if you truly assist anyone watching this, if you truly love your man,
Starting point is 04:05:08 it would be so easy for you to just make him feel respected. It doesn't even take action. You can do it with basic words, ask his opinion on something, big enough once in a while, and because we're supposed to be Superman and we purport ourselves as Superman and we're stoic, but we talk to her about how we still feel everything.
Starting point is 04:05:24 So when you're a strong man, especially, they're like, ah, he's fine. He's fine. He's fine. Be nice to the dude. You'd be surprised how far you get. But this is why I think most men walk out marriages. Because they're like, you know what, I'm not getting any respect
Starting point is 04:05:36 here. I get more respect from this dickhead stripper 18-year-old hoe for throwing money at her than I do given money to my own wife. Where am I being respected? Well, at least she's smiling at me. She's smiling at me in years. And it gets to a point where it's just like, well, I want to feel respected now. I'm working my ass off.
Starting point is 04:05:53 I'm out here on the streets. I'm going to the sewers and shit. Where's my respect at? And that's what I think it really comes down to. I think men function on respect. And respect is the number one trigger that I'll make a man do heinous crimes. And it's also the thing that will make us do the bravest, most honorable things. What did I say about protecting my wife and friends with a raper in a situation on the street? I can't respect myself and I won't be respected by society if I don't die
Starting point is 04:06:14 So I will stand and die. I can't do it because myself respect and respect of the world. No, that's a tate's girl and he ran away I can't take it. I have to die. I can't live that way. So it's like, it's like honor. It's like, Hyro-Kari, or whatever the Japanese thing would disorder. You can't take the dishonor of losing.
Starting point is 04:06:33 Absolutely. They commit suicide. So respect is so intrinsic to men and a lot of society is forgotten. And that's why I also think my message is resonating because I'm teaching men, look, yeah, your life's shit. Yeah, you need to be respected. Yeah, teaching men look. Yeah, your life's shit. Yeah, you need to be respected. Yeah, here's how.
Starting point is 04:06:47 Oh, but that's hard. Of course it is. Let's go. So I think that's what it is. So I agree with you. I love the idea. But the reason that it's ending is because in traditionalistic families, women respected the man.
Starting point is 04:06:59 As soon as the respect's gone, now men don't want to be there anymore. They want to go find a new woman who respects him. Or run around and do dumb shit. Or run around with their boys. Their a respect gone. Now men don't want to be there anymore. They want to go find a new woman who respects him. Or run around and do dumb shit. Or run around with their boys. Their boys respect them. Women say, why is my man always out on the street? Because on the street he's respected. But his boy is he something.
Starting point is 04:07:13 When he's home, what is he? You don't respect him. He wants to go be amongst the respect. That's why men do the shit they do. Dangerous shit. Light-striving shit. Gang banging. How many times you heard a gangster say, I'll go shoot respects my name it's respect is a different is a whole different
Starting point is 04:07:27 dynamic we've forgotten the respect inside of relationships and this is why so many men are just losing interest completely and then yes down respire or you're completely right and then the woman's left by herself and the boys the boys are trying to get respect somewhere they end up getting on the street crime but it's all just downhill would you ever would you ever consider getting married to one woman and building an actual Family nucleus like the traditional way would you do it since you don't have to worry about you know garnering respect? That's a good question. It's certainly something I will consider and something I would do
Starting point is 04:07:57 It's not something I'm completely not really at verse two The problem with the main problem would be doing it is the way that a lot of legality has been set up. I don't like the way the government is doing things, but let's say I already get married religiously, perhaps not governmentally. Sure, religiously. Yeah, absolutely. And if I met the right woman, sure, I'd absolutely not do it. But in my marriage, if I meet a woman and I marry her and I take care of her,
Starting point is 04:08:20 and I make sure she has a fantastic life, and I raise her, and I nurture her, and our children, et cetera. I'm still always gonna be the man who says, listen, I'm a way this weekend, and I'm not gonna come home too much of fucking yelling. I'm just gonna be that guy, I have a way. This lipstick, oh, I'm gonna give her a white lie. Tristan had my shirt on, some bullshit. Just eat it, shh, move on.
Starting point is 04:08:41 Like, that's who I am, right? But, oh and all, yeah, I am completely a proponent for love. I believe in a man loving a woman. I don't think many women understand how deeply men love. Love is real. What's that feeling, Troy? That was about a chick. They're fucking warring tribe, the warring countries.
Starting point is 04:08:58 Love is real is absolutely a real thing, but what we want in return, more than even love back is respect. We want to be respected by the woman we love. That's what we want. And I think if the women who truly understand that are the smart ones and also the dangerous ones because I've met some female players out of Ukraine and Moldova and they're pretty sharp. They know the game and they know exactly what to do to get the billionaire. And I've seen them pull it off. So I'll see how it happens. It's funny. I'm talking to Magic Johnson, okay. And this is six, seven years ago.
Starting point is 04:09:25 And the conversation comes up about AIDS, HIV. I said, you know, there's a couple of moments as a kid that I clearly remember. One was when Jordan retired, one was when Tupac died, and the other one was when you got HIV, because I'm in LA. I mean, I'm like a magic fan. And I said, when that came out, and all the rumors, the past, all this stuff, I said, you know, what major marriage work. And this is interesting, his answer.
Starting point is 04:09:50 He says it very quickly, and I don't even think people got it. It's because she's smart. So what do you mean she's smart? Because she's smart. You know, they've been married together till today. They're still together. Oh, magic is still with his wife. I mean, you imagine magic stories with, you know, Hugh Hefner and the Playboy Mansion and
Starting point is 04:10:09 the part 80s, not these people. Social media, I can imagine, you know, and what he did, but they're still together. Who does a credit go through there? Does a credit go through him? Does it go through her? Who does a credit? That's what he was saying. He's saying credit goes to her
Starting point is 04:10:26 for the family. Now some may say while looking at how the family turned out, you know, look at the kids because you see the criticism that comes out of one of his sons. You know, it's like, hey, look how this turned out. You know, it looks like it's maybe working out, but you don't get no to symptom count. Like one day if you have kids and you decide to bring kids into the world, you're sitting there, you're thinking about the long-term consequences because you don't know what they're going to pick up, what they're not going to pick up, what they're going to turn against you, what they are going to turn. It's super interesting because without wanting to tell another long story about my dad,
Starting point is 04:10:55 I believe now that I've analyzed that my father sacrificed his marriage for me interested because I think that there was times of massive contention with my mother where he was so principled and so concerned with our upbringing as men that he sacrifices marriage with my mom for us. Keep out the divorce. Yeah, so I'll give you a very quick example. I'll tell you a very quick story that surmises it. So they were still together when they when we moved to England, my father's still in America, he came over to visit. And my mom said to me a couple of days for her, it comes to your dad's coming, we're gonna be a haircut.
Starting point is 04:11:28 And I always wanted about 12 or something. Went to get a haircut, went to our normal hairdresser, hairdresser wasn't there, got some other hairdresser, cut my hair, whatever, whatever. And we got back to the house, and I'm like, I don't like how she cut your hair, she cut your hair wrong, she cut your hair wrong. And I'm only 12, right?
Starting point is 04:11:42 So I'm like, yeah, she cut my hair wrong, she cut my hair wrong. So when my dad came, my? So I'm like, yeah, she cut my hair wrong, she cut my hair wrong. So when my dad came, my dad turns off, he's only there for a couple hours, I haven't seen him in nearly six months. I said, oh, my mom said, I hate the way they cart my hair, and my dad, and I said, yeah, they cut my hair wrong, and my dad lost his temper.
Starting point is 04:11:57 He said, what the fuck are you doing? You're raising my son's to bitches, what the fuck are my haircuts? I leave you here with my boys, and you're talking about, do you tell them to worry about their haircut? They're fucking men, who cares about their hair? Haircut doesn't matter. When they grow into men, to tell them to worry about their haircut. They're fucking men who cares about hair. Hair cut doesn't matter.
Starting point is 04:12:06 When they grow to men, no one's gonna care what their hair looks like. Their haircuts are stupid. And I'm like, well, no, Emory, it's just she cut it wrong to the end of my dad. I was like, listen, I trust you in my boys and you fucking cut the hair on. So they've gone some big argument.
Starting point is 04:12:17 So I'd only seen my dad for three hours at this point in the fucking six months. They got a big argument, my mom kicked him out the house. So we left the house, right? So he went to the hotel and then the next day he called me, he goes, I can't come to the house, your mom doesn't want me there. Come to me. And I came to him and we went to the hairdresser and I was only 12.
Starting point is 04:12:35 So this is a traumatic experience, right? I cried my eyes out. I don't know why I cried, but I was upset. He goes, come with me, boys and white, goes, you learn when you're older, you're going to understand when you're older. You're going to shave your head. And I was like, how do I want to shave my head? He goes, listen, you're 12, you're a kid when you're older. You're gonna shave your head. And I was like, how do I want to shave my head? It goes, listen, you're 12, you're a kid,
Starting point is 04:12:47 nobody cares about your hair. Come here, send me that thing, I've had my head shaved by the thing. And I went home, my mom went, fucking crazy. This is the story she recited to his death about how crazy my dad was. This damn-re-scrazy made him shave his head. He's so crazy, that is so crazy.
Starting point is 04:13:01 But when I shave my head, my dad said, listen, you're gonna grow into a man and you're gonna learn. There's so many things that society expects of you that there's so many things that society expects of you And there's so many things that people expect of you and there's so many things people are gonna care about and the last thing On the list is gonna be your haircut. They're not gonna give a solitary fuck I'm not gonna have you being raised in your haircut now So I people always say I'll why my bald right so I had hair till about three four years ago And I was remembering this story some after this story with my mom mom and father, my mom went nuts, call my dad crazy.
Starting point is 04:13:25 He went back to America. So some three hours after six months, because of this hair cut thing, because he was so principled, didn't give a shit. So I'll sit in a hairdresser, and I was waiting the guy in front of me, and he had his hair cut, and the guy in front of me, he goes,
Starting point is 04:13:37 oh, finish, and he goes, oh, excuse me, can you just a little bit here, and the top, just a little bit in the top, and here and here. I'm sitting there, and I'm just on my phone, I'm like, who gives a little bit of a millimeter, and here and here. I'm sitting there, and I'm just on my phone, I'm like, who gives a little bit? A millimetre, bro, you're ugly anyway. You're ugly.
Starting point is 04:13:49 A millimetre? He cares. And he messed around for like 10 minutes, fucking with his hair. So when it was my turn, I sat down, it wasn't my normal barber. He goes, hey, how do you want your hair cut? And I remember the story, and I just couldn't,
Starting point is 04:13:58 I was like, bro, shake off. Like, I'm a millionaire, kickboxing world champion. Who gives a fuck about my hair? I haven't had hair since. You're ready to, you're ready to, you're ready to. You just shave your head. I just shave off that. I could grow full head hair.
Starting point is 04:14:10 I just shave off. Yeah, I could, yeah. You just prefer to be a bald guy. No, I did it at that day and ever since, I've just been like, oh, it's just easy. I can go anywhere. Shave it off, shave it off, shave it off. But that's an example of my father would destroy
Starting point is 04:14:22 his relationship with my mother to try and teach me interesting things. And I have so many examples of that. They're their biggest arguments were almost him being too principled about me and Tristan and my mother trying to be like, Emory, that's crazy. Or Emory, let him go to sleep. Emory, he didn't, he doesn't want to play chess. Emory, sometimes on my dad was like, no, but he is going to be this way. He has my name. So you can live house if you want, Eileen. He's doing this. So I think a lot of his relationship breakdown
Starting point is 04:14:49 was actually because he was so principled on us. Which is quite a unique perspective, I guess. So he sacrificed his marriage, I think, in many ways. You know, it's funny. You always shaved your head. For years and years and years and years, you had no hair. Now look at this beautiful head.
Starting point is 04:15:02 I don't know how handsome he is. I would prefer this. I know you know, I would prefer this. But this guy spends $72 to cut his hair every day. Yeah. Yeah. Five years. My hair was like that. I told four years ago, five years ago. So what are your thoughts? Let's transition. Let's transition to your, you're putting the truth together. Yeah. Okay. Everybody has running mates. Like this main main guys, I used to phrase running mates where Tristan's your runner mate, your his runner mate, and then you got all the people. So there's a levels to running mates, right? So you got acquaintances, you
Starting point is 04:15:34 got, you know, friends, you got best friends, then you got running mates. Running mates is a handful. It's not that many. And when you create that kind of an environment, there's a very mutual understanding of what the standards are to be at this level. You can go to dinner and shoot the shit and talk to anybody, and you know, hey, how you don't know how great men are. So I'm like, man, great, awesome, family, good, everybody, good, great. And then there's the next one and the next one and the next one. And the next one and some people try to become too friendly too soon and it's a little awkward,
Starting point is 04:16:09 relax a little bit, let a couple of years go by and then we'll see where this thing goes. For your end, what code, not you and take, because not you and Tristan, set that one aside. I'm talking about anybody else, non-blood. And I'm not even talking cousin by the way, I'm talking non-blood. Anybody that's non-blood, that I'm not even talking cousin, Bob, I'm talking non-blood. Yeah. Anybody that's non-blood, that's in the inner circle of tape and it's a handful of people
Starting point is 04:16:29 on that list. What are some codes? All of you follow? That's a non-negotiable. Absolutely. That's a fantastic question. And I know exactly how to answer it. So the first things first is I do not like to hang around with men who suffer from a lack of women because in my experience, any man who can't get women will eventually sell you out for women. It's too powerful a force. Too powerful a force. If you're completely sex deprived all the time, sooner or later you're going to sell
Starting point is 04:16:55 your boys out for sex, whether it's his ex or some girl talking bad about your boy, but you really want to post-easy, you let her slide. If you're not good with girls, I don't want to talk to you. Second thing is money. You have not be rich rich, but if you're starving, you're going to with girls, I don't want to talk to you. Second thing is money. You have not be rich, rich, but if you're starving, you're gonna try and sneak some money out of somebody, right? If you can't eat, you'll do anything for food. You can't pay the bills or you're anything for money.
Starting point is 04:17:13 That means whether it's a plea bargain, whether it's trying to rob me, whether it's money sitting around my house. I don't want to talk to extremely broke people. I don't want to talk to extremely sex deprived people for the same reason. I wouldn't have a whole bunch of food around a 100 person. Same reason. So first two have a whole bunch of food around a hundred percent. Same reason.
Starting point is 04:17:25 So first two things. The next thing is loyalty. And I know that's super hard to judge, but I really like to believe that the few people I hang around with, if we were all in separate police interviews and they were to come and say, Hey, your boy turned. I can literally burst out laughing. You better come with a new story. Go away and think about it and come back.
Starting point is 04:17:44 We can talk, but don't try that one. Try again. So loyalty is very, very important. Next is bravery because camp fight is fine, but won't fight is won't fight is unacceptable in everyone. If I'm with my five friends and I'm going toilet in the club and I come back and I see someone punch one of my friends. I am annihilating anybody in that guy's group. We'll find out why later. My guy could have been wrong. My guy could have been, my guy's fault. I'm just hitting him, him, him, him, him. I'm snorkeling everyone. When everyone's asleep and the threat is neutralized, I'm like, bro, the fuck is that? But though I started,, I started. I'm fucking. Well, first, we're getting this video.
Starting point is 04:18:25 First, people have to pay. Right? We'll worry about the wives afterwards. So they have to have that loyalty and that devotion to the bravery, the ability to fight. I find it very crazy. I find it crazy. And I say this often to guys. So you're rolling around with these men
Starting point is 04:18:40 who won't even fight to protect you because they're coward. So they'll watch you get your head stomped to death and coward out and not even try and help you. And they're like, yeah, but he's funny. But he's funny. We're talking about life and death. You're talking about fucking funny. So if I can smell on someone that they wouldn't even attempt,
Starting point is 04:19:00 I don't wanna be anywhere near them, the same reason. And general professionalism, I've developed a habit where I punish myself for the smallest in professional actions. If I misplace my keys or misplace my phone and it takes me more than 10 minutes to find it, I'll punish myself for that. For dogs, whether I don't spend money this week or I don't go here or I'm canceling that or I'm going to defer buying something I want to buy, I punish myself religiously so that next time I put my phone down, I know where I put my phone.
Starting point is 04:19:29 Next time I put it down, I know where I put it. All the time. When I put it down, I know where my phone is. So when I'm around people, like, hey, I lost my keys or I broke off for God, then when I'm around sloppy people, I don't like it. I like people who have their lives in order. When I detect sloppiness, I don't really want them too closely. Because gaps are where things sneak in. Other things are basic off-second. I like people who have their lives in order. When I detect sloppiness, I don't really want them too close.
Starting point is 04:19:45 Because gaps are where things sneak in. Other things are basic opsec. Really basic opsec. I like that if I'm around my friends, if I'm ever sitting with my back to a room, this is an enclosed environment that a normal restaurant, I never sit with my back to a room. But if I have to do it, I like that my,
Starting point is 04:20:03 I never do it, but if I have to do it, the people I roll with, they'll literally give me a nod. We'll sit down at dinner and I have to sit here. They'll go, and they'll pay extra attention for me because I can't see behind me. I like that level of professionalism. I like that. I like people like I said, don't we get we, no hangovers, no crying their eyes out, no cowardice, it's infectious. Don't like that round me. No negativity. Don't like that round. So there's certain things that I create a very, very particular reality, and it's actually interesting because to me these things are all normal, but when you have these kind of
Starting point is 04:20:32 standards, you're pretty hard to find friends. You're like, oh, you're a dumbass. You're a pussy. You're like, you don't talk to that many people, but if you get a crew together that act that way, it's amazing how not to get all airy fairy, but it's almost intangible. When you have six men in one place who are perspicacious, who are paying attention, who do have their things right,
Starting point is 04:20:53 who don't lose things, who do, the whole room can smell it. When me and my crew walk in a room, even if it's almost like an energy, some guy can be eaten his dinner and I can see us walk in and go, six predators, it's like the rabbit, when the fox comes, you can smell when the guy's turn on. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 04:21:13 And everyone's experienced, everyone's seen it. So anyone I associate with, I have these very, very stringent metrics in there basically, just to make sure that nobody gets inspired by something they can't resist to snake us. And also nobody's overly sloppy and allows a way for us to be infiltrated and destroyed. And one of the easiest ways that people, especially in the modern world today, especially people in my position, are infiltrated and destroyed are women.
Starting point is 04:21:35 So with women, I create that very heavily. If you get a guy who's thirsty and he's on your crew, let's say I have problems with another crew, let's say. And I know they have a member who's thirsty. That is the easiest job in the world. You get one hot bitch to Instagram message. You're gonna find out where they are, what they're doing, where they've been, the hotel room right now.
Starting point is 04:21:53 It's fucking dumb deal. You can do whatever you want to dem it is, right? You go, I have guys who can turn that shit down. I've had a bunch of times in my life, where I've been in countries. I was in Sofia, Bulgaria. I'll talk to this girl, she's like, hey, that it should 10 out of 10. I've been talking to her for a few weeks. Okay, let's meet at this place. I'm like, ah, let's go here. No, no, this is my favorite
Starting point is 04:22:12 place to go here. And I was like, no, I'll turn and put you down. I could have been wrong. Could have been right. Could have been right. We're never going to know. I'll turn it down. But if you have that guy in your crew, hey bro She's so hot, bro. So hot That's problems for you and him and everyone else. So you got to be very careful with the kind of life you're living But if you live with people have their eyes lives in order is important But professionalism is also a really big one. I see people who are sloppy. It makes me very uncomfortable Just general sloppy. I can't explain it when somebody when a girl is your girl
Starting point is 04:22:45 Are you telling her anything? Or is it a understanding, like, hey, listen, these are some things that I follow and you either are okay with this or you're not, but I'm not compromised in these things. Do you have those conversations when a girl is your main girl? Yeah, so I've had relationships with women
Starting point is 04:23:01 for five or six years and they never knew my job. And I'll just say to them, look, it's, if you know things, even though I don't do anything wrong, but if you know even who I associate with, you know things, then you have to lie. Why is it the easier if you just don't know? Then you got lie, right? So let's just, I'm working. Let's work. Work's work. We're on a jet. We're on a jet. It's harder to do. Right? So I keep certain things from them because it makes it easier than them having to worry about false're on a jet. You're on a jet. You're on a jet. You're on a jet, right? So I keep certain things from them because it makes it easier than them having to worry about false narrative or a lie in the event of whatever or if we break up, then we then walk, right?
Starting point is 04:23:34 So I'm very careful of that. I'm very, very careful who I talk around as well. Like if there's random like on the yacht, me trusting in my cousin, we were just with 30 girls in the yacht, we didn't talk this as long. We talked this is one night, but it was asleep. A couple times, like Luke went to go, hey man, I'll message you. We'll be sitting the same room, what's happened?
Starting point is 04:23:49 This is people. Loose lips, sink ships. Doesn't matter if you're doing nothing wrong. You gotta be careful who you're talking around. They listen into shit. And in the modern world, they record shit. Like you don't want to do it. What's even if it's a 0.1% chance,
Starting point is 04:24:02 but what's the upside? Like there's no upside. So why take the 1% chance risk reward You know, I'm very very careful and especially with women not because they're necessarily malicious Because women in general don't have to worry about the certain things I'm talking about with terms of professionalism There's a whole bunch of beautiful smart great women out there who just go through life And they're just Instagram. I never where they go and if you're other keys and do do do do do do do do do do do And if she's too close to your circle She's just an in it's an in to get you if you're other keys and do do do do do do do do do. And if she's too close to your circle, she's just an in, it's an in to get you.
Starting point is 04:24:26 And you gotta be careful and it's amazing whether it's the 1970 Soviet spies or the 2022 mafia. When they want to get a dude, it's a chick. You either send a new chick or you watch his old chick or you find his girlfriend, even a bounty hunter today. Let's say I was wanting by the police and I couldn't find who's his girl. But he's gone there. But he needs some sex. Go put a car there.
Starting point is 04:24:48 Every time, every fucking time. You go, I keep this shit in order. And the women I associate with have enough respect for me to go, okay, I don't know. Fine. Just, I love you, I love you. When I arrested El Chapo's girl, didn't you say I didn't know it was a criminal?
Starting point is 04:25:02 I thought it was a chef, some shit. I don't like it. Even perfect, perfect. She doesn't even know how to lie anymore. He was a chef, some chef. I'm like, perfect, perfect. She has to even lie anymore. He's a chef, he told me to chef. He's a chef. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, There is a degree of downside. I was in Moldova. No, I take that back. I was in Constantin Romania nine years ago before I moved there. And I was in a club, and I must have been the only foreign person in the club, and there was a 11 out of 10 Moldova girl, the most beautiful girl I'd ever seen. And I went over and I tried to
Starting point is 04:25:41 talk to her and she said, yeah, I only drink champagne. And at the time I didn't have that much money. I said, oh, you only drink champagne. Well, I'm finished drinking for the night. It's very nice to meet you, I couldn't afford to bought the champagne, so it's silent. So it's like, I don't have an, I just finished drinking for the night. It's very nice to meet you, what's your name?
Starting point is 04:25:54 It's in, okay, basically. Left the club, whatever. Next day I came, I saw her on this table, champagne show, champagne show, champagne show. Next table, champagne show. And while she was doing all this, I was kind of catching each other's eye, looking a little bit, that it, a a couple times I caught her at lunch,
Starting point is 04:26:06 consent to this like a beach town. I caught her lunch, I spoke for a little bit. And she kept asking me for champagne. I was like, listen, you are absolutely gorgeous. I think you and I are gonna have a long and happy future together, but I'm not gonna buy you champagne. I'll tell you why later. I put mystery on it.
Starting point is 04:26:20 So I can't tell you, bro, right? You got to put mystery space. So I'm gonna tell you why I don't buy champagne later. It's a long and interesting story. Once I can trust you, I wanna tell you why I want my champagne. You can trust me now. I will tell you. Not yet. Styling off. Styling off. Styling off. Anyway, as we go to know each other across the summer, eventually when we became friends, she came clean. She works for the club. She has a commission on champagne. Of course. Of course. The girls of the club, your buying champagne for this thing, she gets a commission per ball.
Starting point is 04:26:45 What was interesting is this, she had on her phone a system. So she'd meet you, you'd buy your drinks the first night. You'd go a separate date the second night, you'd buy her drinks. Third day, she'd send a pre-decide already in her notes, how you live far away and you can't fall in love again. She's only been one man in her whole life. She falls in love with you, she's gonna have her heart broken and she's scared and then she'll ghost you for three days
Starting point is 04:27:09 Then eventually after begging you'll get her back But she wants to come but not on her own because she's scared she wants to bring free friends and she'll go to this restaurant She wants to bring this champagne But when a commission commission commission and she'll show me on her Facebook message every dude playbook every fucking guy One after another every night of the week. I'll just fall into the playbook, every fucking guy, one after another, every night of the week, I'll just fall into the playbook, fall into the playbook. So she's the only guy who never bought me champagne. Like, yeah, well, I didn't tell her I had money
Starting point is 04:27:30 on my own since school. I was like, I've been around the world, I know some things. So anyway, I played it all. And she was sitting there telling me, yeah, and when she was going through it, she was scared to me, she goes, yeah, this guy on Facebook, yeah, he's from Turkey and he does private airplanes
Starting point is 04:27:43 and did it, did it, did it. And she's telling all their jobs, the money they're making, where they live, the talent, because these dudes are sitting there talking, I'm so rich, baby, I'm so rich, I'm so rich, you want champagne, I got it, I do this, I do this, I do this, I do this, and I'll sit there thinking, whichever mall boss picks this girl up, is gonna have a whole bunch of targets to go rob it all night long, because dudes just can't shut the fuck up. And this is when I was 24, 25. Ever since then, I style it off. What's your job?
Starting point is 04:28:10 Oh, I work, it depends where I am. If I'm like in Romania, I say I make poppinache, which is a Romanian doughnut. So national food. I say I make poppinache baby doughnut. The poppinache, I'm number one. I just style up. Not even know my job.
Starting point is 04:28:23 Not even know who I do. Not even know. Because I don, no, Papa nice. You know, they know. So I'm very, very careful when it comes to talking to women for that reason. So that was a lot of, so, so it's funny because when we met, when you're, you're, you're lady with you last night, she stood there. Hi, this is my wife. Didn't say anything, know this, no nothing, distance did an approach, didn't even entertain conversation. It's not even something that was gonna happen. It's coming in the Muslim community that's why I ask you, if there was anybody that had any influence over you on the Muslim side. She is by coincidence Islamic. She is Muslim. Okay. She's half Turkish Aframanian. But a lot of my women are kind of similar. They're like, oh, hi. And they don't really
Starting point is 04:29:11 talk too much. And that's just something I've asked them to do in a very polite way. So look, I talked to lots of people and you guys are fine, right? But I'll tell the truth. I say, I talk to a lot of unsavory people. I have a lot of people who know me, whose hands I shake, who are bad people, bad people. They don't need to know too much about me. I don't even really want them to see you. It's unfortunate and they catch me on the street and you're with me, that's a bad time.
Starting point is 04:29:31 I wish it didn't happen. Last thing you need to be doing is going to say, hello, my name is this. Don't talk to nobody. And by extension, it's the same thing with violence. I had a conversation with my girls as well. My girls are completely trained. I said, listen, if I'm ever attacked
Starting point is 04:29:42 or anything ever happens to me, run, scream and run. Don't be trying to get in the way or say, don't hit him or some bullshit, just fucking leave because I know dudes don't care that you're a chick. You're gonna get out of here. So I try and be as protective as possible. I'll try and be controlling. I just try and protect them from situations. Just saying, all right, people like, hi, don't say your name.
Starting point is 04:30:00 They'll go over there. I've knew him from here. We've been together this long. I'm from this country. Just leave it. And some people can find it weird and rude. They'll go over there. Oh, I've knew him from here. We've been together this long. I'm from this country to Leave it and some people can find it weird and rude But I think I can Overall the people I know and I can style it off and I can understand why it is that way And it's just a better dynamic for me. It's all I I respected you know, and then he said loyalty you said
Starting point is 04:30:17 You know, you know how to fight but you have to be well-in-a-fight Absolutely, and if you know one cold we had I had a friend of mine Who I told him I said listen guys Here's how I wrote I said if your girl breaks up with you she calls me I have nothing to talk to her about absolutely I said if my girl breaks up with me and you're talking to you have nothing to talk to about Absolutely zero because the number one revenge is to get with a friend to do that. So one time a guy you know, his girl contacts me
Starting point is 04:30:48 and one after another, after another, after another, and I just finally said, we have nothing to talk about. Absolutely. He's the relationship not you. Absolutely. Some of these things, it's... And that comes from a lack of thirst.
Starting point is 04:31:01 You have a thirst you do. Yeah. What happens there, right? But it's also, it's also filtering process because once you see it, you're kind of like, yeah, that's not going to be a long-term relationship. They're to lose lip situation. I had an assistant that Every time I'm working on a big announcement that a month announced to everybody in a company a Certain department when I said there's no way you could know this announcement. How do you know this announcement? You know what speaker I'm launching Kobe Bryant?
Starting point is 04:31:27 One person I said how do you know this? How do you know where Nelson Kobe Bryant is? You know what speaker? You know what speaker? Kobe Bryant. Finally I'm like, he can't be my sister. Because even though you get excited, you got to keep it to yourself. This isn't anybody else's business.
Starting point is 04:31:41 This is if you're on the inside, you're on the inside. Nothing leaks to anybody else no matter what business dealings. And this is the thing about emotionally, because you just nailed it, even with the best possible intentions, if people are excitable, they're manipulatable, and they can be used. This is why stoicism is so important. Let's imagine a hypothetical situation you guys would have hand me a million dollars cash right now. I would sit and think, I'd say thank you, and I'd sit and think, am I going to go out
Starting point is 04:32:04 of this building alive? I wouldn't be like, wow, a million dollars. Oh. I would sit and think, I'd say thank you, and I'd sit and think, am I gonna go out of this going on? I wouldn't be like, wow, a million dollars. Oh, I wouldn't get excited. I'd be like, that's unusual. Fuck. That's what I think. I'd poke or face it.
Starting point is 04:32:14 But that's what would go through my brain. Because if I was excitable, wow, a million, and you'll give me more, wow, that boom. That's the end of the game, right? You can't be excitable. There's a time and a place when you're with very, very select people in very, very private environments and be excited. But otherwise, yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 04:32:30 People get excited and they talk too much and they get happy and then it's fine as certain ashylong. But once you've reached the upper echelons of life, you have to really start analyzing risk award, especially in the modern world, especially, look at me now, right? I just took a huge risk. I'm a misogynist, I'm evil and I just want to vote with 30 girls. If one of them were to turn on me, imagine the bullshit that would have come as risk. That's a risk. And I had to analyze
Starting point is 04:32:53 the risk, had a conversation with all the girls in advance, made it clear they all had their own separate bedrooms, but to operate extremely professionally, CCTV on the boat, I couldn't just be some jackass. Let's all just go get drunk and Let me see if we can get drunk on the sex bath. You have to be pro. You have to be professional about things. And the sloppy guy would have done that in my position. I was like, oh, I got a boat. I got a girl.
Starting point is 04:33:13 I got a booze. I got money. The end of the game. It's really smart. It's easier said than done. It's easier to control the emotions when it comes up to things like that. Musk, you hear a story about Musk where his dad told them
Starting point is 04:33:26 the most important role of man has is to populate, right? And he's got what? I think he's got 10 kids now. Eight kids now. Did you see? He just had another set of things. Some ridiculous amount of number, but he's trying to repopulate the planet,
Starting point is 04:33:39 and or Mars. Yeah, this is 10 kids. 10 kids? He's got 10 kids. Yeah. You're talking about the richest man in the world Possibly the smart one of the smartest agree brains in the world One of the best trolls in the world One of the most necessary forces in the world where the people that are not fans of you
Starting point is 04:34:01 You know can't stand him That's enemy to state number one. They don't like the fact that he can just drop 44 billion dollars and to be able to buy Twitter or do anything he's doing. What do you think about Elon Musk? Man, I love Elon. And I love that he has, he is a man of purpose and I have so much respect for men of purpose.
Starting point is 04:34:21 Most people who get his kind of paycheck whenever he got it and the night he's would have just cashed out head and is and bullshit. He decided to risk it all again to try and achieve the most possible things. That's how you got to where you are, to where I got to where I am. When you have enough to stop, but you don't stop. For some reason, there's some new mountain to climb. And that is what's beautiful about men as a whole. All of the exploration on the planet, the deep sea and Antarctica, now I've risked all of it, was a man who had enough and thought,
Starting point is 04:34:48 no, I'm gonna go anyway. And that's the wheel on it. So I have so much respect for him because he doesn't need to do any of the stuff he's doing. And he's adopting the biggest problems in the world and all the headache that comes with it, you're right, all the heat and all the dislike and all the pressure, he's adopting it anyway.
Starting point is 04:35:02 And those are the kind of men who need more of it. The men who say, you know what? Yeah, I do have enough. It's not about enough. Who are some guys that you will put in that level? What must? Like must? Well, must is must, right? He's dependable, but who else would you put in that space?
Starting point is 04:35:15 I have respect for anyone who's kind of similar. I'm trying to think of people who I idolize and really look up to. Some of them are fighters. Like I always love Mayweather. I think Mayweather's the best boxer in history. Really? Yeah, I liked Mayweather is the best boxer in history. Really? Yeah, I liked Mayweather.
Starting point is 04:35:26 It's a huge fan. Best boxer in history. Yeah. A head of Ali. Yeah. I mean Ali is Ali, right? But Mayweather's never lost. He's never lost anybody.
Starting point is 04:35:34 And I liked him because he was so clinical and so precise. And he took his ego out of it and said, I want to have a longer career than everyone else. So I'm going to focus on knocking and hitting him. I may not get the knockout. All right? I don't need the knockout. I've won. Just win clinical chess, win payday, win payday. You were fighting this bull ring. 100 bill, whatever, 100 mil, whatever, get four, it's cool. Next, win, that I, it was really smart. So I like may weather someone I've always looked up to and I really respect. That's a really good question. I think that it's kind of difficult now in the world because also a lot of the people
Starting point is 04:36:08 who are propagated to the top and perpetuated into absolute global stardom, I'm not sure if all of them have done it through good intentions. You can look at the things we said from Logan earlier, etc. But I think even now I have the most respect for the common man. I think I have so much respect for the common man. I think I have so much respect for the common man. I say it all the time, it's a Tristan. Me and him will have our most in-depth conversations when we're in a S class on our way to the private jet
Starting point is 04:36:34 and we see a street sweeper at 3 a.m. in Romania, no, he's getting 200 bucks a month. I mean, if you will look at him and go, I respect that. Like, just a vendor are so many people out here just living hard lives. And I have so much respect for them. And we can talk about the ones who make it,
Starting point is 04:36:51 but there's so many people who don't make it. And that's difficult. And I have so many stories. I don't want to tell any more stories that I can go on forever. But even little things I do like at buffets, nobody ever complements the shaft at buffets. So whenever I go to a buffet, I try and say,
Starting point is 04:37:03 bro, did you cook this? This is great. I did it in Cypress at buffets. So whenever I go to a buffet, I try and say, bro, did you cook this? This is this is great. I did it in Cyprus at some resort. I swear like I gave him a million bucks to smile at you. He never been complimented. In 15 years of cooking meatballs, he was the happiest man in the world because he just slags away for fucking nothing. And I think a lot of people are out here just giving their life force up for for nothing in return. He wanted respect. He wanted respect that I gave him a little bit for some meatballs and I could tell he'd never been complimented in history. Most people would say, hey, it was the place. You know, so I respect for the common man, anyone who's out here doing what they have to do. There's no such thing, and I know I have a lot of money, but there's no such thing as
Starting point is 04:37:35 shameful work. If you're a man and you're getting up and you're working, doesn't matter what it is, we need people who do these jobs and I have absolute respect for you. And when I talk about escaping the matrix, I'm not saying that, you know, if you're working on normal jobs, you suck. I'm not saying that. I'm saying, if you want to live the life I live and you want to have all the things I have, then you have to escape. Of course, it's going to be difficult, but I have absolute respect for anyone to
Starting point is 04:37:54 get stuff in the morning and face their demons and get it done because life as a man is fucking hard. It is really hard to do. Final topic before we wrap up. America, do you follow the political climate in the US? I have recently become apolitical. Yeah. I have so little faith in either side of the system that I am now absolutely and
Starting point is 04:38:19 hardly apolitical. I do not have any opinions on anything. I'm an apolitical person because I feel like it's two sides of the same goal. That's my goal. Doesn't matter who it is. I don't think it. Left, right, middle, it's the same thing. I think from an ideological perspective, it's nice to have certain figures because it certainly inspires the morale of the sensible, as opposed to the morale of the insane. I believe that, however, I believe that the power structures are set up in such a way that the president doesn't truly matter.
Starting point is 04:38:50 I don't know if you saw there's an interview with Putin when Trump first became president and you can find it on YouTube. He says something very interesting. He said, what do you think about Trump? Trump has all these ideas about Russia and Hyrule has to change the world, etc. Putin said, I think I think he said four. I've sat through four U.S US presidents so far. They all come with very interesting ideas and then the men with the black suits and the briefcases come and explain to them how things are done and then they leave and I'm still here and nothing really changes. Putin said it. Putin
Starting point is 04:39:16 understands and I think for this reason, winning a vote is nice to say, haha, to the other side. Winning a vote is nice to say, look, there's still some common sense in the world. It's certainly a morale boost from the actual skin and bones, some actual blood and grit of how it would change society. I don't think it changes anything. And for that reason, and because I don't want to be suicide, I am absolutely not the uncle of the uncle. I'm able to. Do you put him as the most powerful man in the world Putin? Is he at the top or he put Gia ahead of him? Why do you want Putin is very controversial?
Starting point is 04:39:50 Do I wrap this up with this? I think Putin is misunderstood. I think he's a misunderstood man. I think that he's been in power for a very long time. I think he's extremely smart. I think he genuinely cares about Russia and Russians, off other countries We're living in a world now where it's very interesting to see European leaders
Starting point is 04:40:11 Self-employed and self-destruct their own gas prices their own governments their own businesses their own Populac's living standards because of some idealistic nation Idealistic notion that they need to help a nation that they have no direct link to If I'm a leader of X country, I should be concerned about X country more than I'm concerned about the plight of whatever country That's my duty and job. I think it's very interesting that most politicians in the world today don't seem to give a shit at all about the Constituents. They care about aligning themselves to higher ideologies and self-employing their own countries and the living standards for this ideology. Who even doesn't do that?
Starting point is 04:40:49 It's Russia first, Russia. Russians, Russia, Russians, Russian. And for that, I respect him. Most other countries don't do that. And won't do that. So I find that very, very interesting about him. I think the current situation is absolutely not only unfortunate, I think what happened is terrible.
Starting point is 04:41:03 War on all sides is always terrible, un-per-able. I think it's unfair that we discussed Ukraine at length when this has been happening across the Middle East in Africa for decades. Nobody ever gave a shit. But now people seem to give a shit about proxy wars and unfair conflicts and people dying. It's always been happening.
Starting point is 04:41:18 And nobody cared because they're brown or black. But now we care because they're white Europeans and their chicks are hot. So I think there's a degree of hypocrisy there. He's certainly not the bad guy of what saying he is. He has a point and his point is logical and it makes sense and he has a point to defend. And I think that to a degree he was forced in to make the moves he was made. And uh... Yeah, a unique perspective. Would you crane being a neighboring of your Romania and like Zalinsky and
Starting point is 04:41:44 put him going back and forward It is unique. Yeah, like there's obviously good and bad on both sides Nobody's completely innocent and those are the worst kind of conflicts because when you're a good guy and a bad guy It's simple right, but life's never that simple One guy a has some good points and some bad points guy be has some good points and some bad points Innocents always suffer in the end people at the top don't even suffer, and it's really unfortunate. War has always been the same. What more to say?
Starting point is 04:42:07 The general sit and have dinner after millions of in massacres. It's unfortunate. And this is one other thing I talk about, light is a man and status. If you get to become a general, you know, you can participate in the battle, but if you lose, you just surrender, you have to get that mistake with the Russians and you get to go home. If you're at the bottom, you have to die with an artillery shell. So it's all at once again, about stay is,
Starting point is 04:42:26 it's really unfortunate, but I certainly think that Putin is definitely not a stupid man. And I think the narrative that they point, that he's some madman is bullshit. He's not crazy, he's not a madman. He's a very logical actor with points that no people, not many people know or consider or understand why he's doing what he does.
Starting point is 04:42:43 But I respect that he believes in Russia and sticks up for Russians. And I think that any leader of any country should do that. I think there was, I'm apolitical now, so I can't remember his name, but there was a recent president of the United States who said America first, and I think that anybody who prioritizes their own populist over the other populations of the world should do exactly that. I think that's their job. I think to do anything else is irresponsible. I think the Russians do it, the Chinese do it, the Indians do it.
Starting point is 04:43:09 All the other superpowers to come are going to do that. And as long as you're in charge of a country and you decide to vacate the needs of your own populist, to please some crazy ideology wherever it will be, it makes you non-competitive and on a long enough time frame you're going to lose. And that's how empire is going. It would be very interesting if you were to have a sit down with this one president they said America first. I don't know who you're referencing but I remember his name. I forgot. I know but if it would happen to be interesting. I don't know how
Starting point is 04:43:34 long this is. Is it almost five hours or no? We've been going for a few hours. Okay. It feels like five minutes. But to the audience, some people maybe for the first time they're hearing you, some of them follow, no matter what you say, they're going to follow the content. At this point, coming up, upbringing, you know, bad to date, is there any specific belief system you follow? I'm glad you asked that because when they attacked me, when the matrix attacked me, they said that I purport misogyny and I believe in show vanistic principles and all this absolute garbage. And when they said that about me,
Starting point is 04:44:09 I understood it's very important that I create a list and explain to the world exactly why I believe. So without looking on professional, I've wrote it down. I would like to actually say the, I've written 41 tenants of thing I believe in. And if you hear any that you disagree with. 41 tenants.
Starting point is 04:44:24 41 tenants. If you disagree with any of them hear any that you disagree with, 41 tenants. 41 tenants. If you disagree with any of them, I would love to hear feedback on anything. So these are the 41 things I believe in most. And before I read out the framework, it doesn't matter if you are a Muslim or Christian, it doesn't matter if you're black and white, black or white, weak or strong.
Starting point is 04:44:38 I think if any man lives true to these tenants, they're gonna have a fantastic relationship with life and also they're gonna be a good force and good influence for people around them. And I think that all in all, they're going to have a fantastic relationship with life, and also they're going to be a good force and good influence for people around them. And I think that all in all, they're going to enjoy their experience, their human experience, and the people close to them will also enjoy their presence. So that's what this is about. These are the 41 things I believe. So here we go. I believe that men have the divine imperative to become as capable, powerful, and competent as possible in this life.
Starting point is 04:45:04 I reserve my human right to hold my own beliefs and practice them as I see fit and allow other people the same right to believe and act as they wish. I prefer loving, rewarding, consensual relationships with beautiful, positive, and virtuous women. I believe men and women are different and that each has their own unique and important strengths and abilities. I believe men have the sacred duty to protect and provide for the important people in their lives. I believe men have the sacred duty to protect the innocence and sanctity of their children and reserve the right and responsibility to raise your children as they see best to ensure their long-term happiness and success. I believe that men
Starting point is 04:45:39 have the sacred duty to raise strong, capable, and honorable sons. I believe that men have the sacred duty to raise kind, kind feminine and virtuous daughters. I utterly disprove a violence within romantic or familiar relationships. I support good and honest governments and will obey their laws. I prefer to only conduct business dealings with trusted and vetted brothers. I believe that a man has the sacred duty to hold true to his word and do exactly what he says he will do. I believe that a man's life is difficult and he have the sacred duty to become strong to handle such difficulty. I believe men are personally responsible for their actions and for the results they achieve in their lives.
Starting point is 04:46:16 I believe in emotional control and the vital need to become disciplined and professional in all things. I believe that men have the sacred duty to approach everything in life from a position of strength. I believe that all men have the sacred duty to become men of upright and virtuous character and live above all possible reproach. I believe it is incumbent upon me to ruthlessly identify my own weaknesses and limitations, and I eagerly work to overcome them
Starting point is 04:46:41 and become more capable in all realms. I seek to improve my personal freedom to think, act and live true to my masculine and pair of in all ways. I believe each man has a sacred duty to mold the physical body into the strongest, most resilient, and most capable version of itself. I believe that men have the sacred duty to rigor so he train themselves both physically
Starting point is 04:46:59 and mentally every day. I believe that I have the sacred duty to only eat the highest quality foods possible. I reserve the right to protect the sanctity of my bloodstream and make my own decisions about medical care and procedures. I affirm the importance of endlessly improving my mental faculties through diligent work, study, and practice. I believe in inquiring wealth and abundance in order to improve my life and do good for those I care about. I believe in the merits of healthy competition and constantly encourage all men to seek out competition to care about. I believe in the merits of healthy competition and constantly encourage all men to seek out competition to improve themselves.
Starting point is 04:47:27 I believe that masculine brotherhood is essential to men's mental health, happiness and success, and I relentlessly encourage men to meet together, train together and work together. I maintain the trust of my brothers through reverence silence regarding our most sacred and shared experiences.
Starting point is 04:47:41 I believe in honoring my ancestors and living in a way that would make most of them proud of me today. I reserve the right to administer difficult living in a way that would make most of them proud of me today. I reserve the right to administer difficult rights of passage for our young men to allow them to earn the rank of manhood. I affirm the importance and need for travel and adventure as men. I seek to help men overcome poor mental health through embracing hard work, physical improvements, and shared masculine brotherhood. I reserve the right to make the best choices I can at the time to protect myself and respect my mental health. I do good in the world and seek to help those less fortunate. I believe all men have the responsibility to lead and guide those they care about for greater
Starting point is 04:48:13 health, prosperity, and happiness. I choose to only interact with those who are respectful and civil to me in return for my own respectfulness and civility. I reserve the freedom to speak and refer to others as I believe is best and most truthful. I reserve the freedom to speak and refer to others as I believe is best and most truthful. I reserve the right to choose my company and include only those who might believe are best for my health happiness and success. I believe I have an imperative to only spend my time in a way that I determine his beneficial uplifting
Starting point is 04:48:37 and empowering to myself and others. I choose to only allow myself to be influenced by those why I believe have my best interests in mind. And the final one, each day I dedicate myself a new to create the greatest possible positive impact on the world and do the work necessary to achieve a greater masculine excellence across all realms of human development.
Starting point is 04:48:56 This is 41,000. Powerful. Thank you. When did you write that? I wrote this last night about half of them and the other half of the way. Wow. You said last night you came up with this?
Starting point is 04:49:06 Yeah, I decided to explain exactly my beliefs. So these are the 41 tenants I believe in and I think they can apply to any man on the planet and if a man lives through to these, it's gonna be beneficial for both him and everybody who loves him and the world as a whole. I don't think it's possible to find a negative connotation to any of those 41 tenants.
Starting point is 04:49:22 That's what I personally. Powerful, but. Thank you. This has been incredible. Sit down with you and at a time like this, long format, kind of risky to go this long. Both sides, we wanted it. We started talking on Instagram.
Starting point is 04:49:37 I think you reached out on Insta and all of a sudden, we're talking to each other. We had been in communication for a couple of years ago. I don't know what it was, but different format. But for the audience that maybe is not on rumble or doesn't know where to follow you, what can people find you? Yes, I'm on rumble at TateSpeech.
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Starting point is 04:50:46 Well, brother, this has been great. Sitting down with you. First time we meet. First time. First time we need having a conversation like this. I hope the audience can make a decision for themselves to know you're not a perfect man. This is not a perfect person we're talking to.
Starting point is 04:51:03 We're all flawed in our own way. But be able to see it from a clear, full five hour format man, this is not a perfect person we're talking to, we're all flawed in our own way. Absolutely. But be able to see it from a clear, full five-hour format where it's not a 15-second clip. Absolutely. And the making decision for themselves, but I appreciate you for this wonderful, fantastic. Thank you. We really enjoyed it, man. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 04:51:18 Thank you, bro. Thank you, bro. Thank you. How often have you sent a message or DM to an expert influencer and you never hear back from them? Why is that? Because they give them barbed-up to an expert influencer and you never hear back from them? Why is that? Because they give them a barter with thousands of messages and you're one of them.
Starting point is 04:51:29 What if I told you there's a way that if you send a message to them, pretty much 100% ratio they're going to respond to you. That's the app, Minect. On Minect, you have a minute to connect with any of your influencers that we have on there right now. For example, myself, if you want to ask about raising money, if you want to talk to Chas Paul Mentari, Kevin Connolly, maybe even take, maybe others, you can get on their Pogia question,
Starting point is 04:51:50 they will respond back in the video, or you can have a 15 minute call with them, but you pay by the minute. If you want to take advantage of this app, go ahead and download the app and start minecting with other influencers and experts.

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