PBD Podcast - Exclusive: Andrew Tate UNCENSORED Interview with Patrick Bet-David
Episode Date: September 13, 2022Patrick Bet-David sits down with Andrew Tate in Madrid, Spain. In an interview that spans nearly 5 hours, they leave no stone unturned. Pat & Andrew discuss his ban, Logan Paul, Elon Musk, modern-...day manhood, and much more. Ask Tate a question or Facetime him on Minnect! You can download it here: Minnect on the App Store: https://apple.co/3eLvPfV Minnect on Google Play: https://bit.ly/3L68rpM Visit Andrew Tate’s official website: https://bit.ly/3Bxiykf Andrew Tate’s Rumble page: https://bit.ly/3Bcu9nl Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. PBD on Instagram: Patrick Bet-David https://www.instagram.com/patrickbetdavid/?hl=en A special thank you to Club Pasión Habanos for allowing us to shoot at their cigar lounge, check them out on social media here: https://bit.ly/pasionhabanos and their restaurant: https://bit.ly/elcluballard To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: info@valuetainment.com Valuetainment is a media company founded by Patrick Bet-David. We create a wide range of content from entrepreneurship to sports, politics, and lifestyle with segments involving education, interviews, current events, and other relevant topics. We educate, entertain and empower people from around the world through video, podcasts, live events, and other digital verticals. #pbdpodcast --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support
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When you have the youth, the masculine youth of the world, thinking for themselves, that's
really scary to a quarry, or the biggest fatal mistakes any man or human beings can make.
To choke my head off and try and delete me is acid-eyed in itself.
Another thing that gives the game away, here's your piece of it.
You ain't canceled again, Logan. You're away? Here's your piece 8. Going cancelled again, Logan.
You're staying in call like that was main.
Hundred percent, the two to pay.
The lady of yours that you introduced to us yesterday said this is my wife.
I don't even know if I'm convinced you want to have five lives.
And that's a very astute observation to your correct.
But I won't believe it.
I don't want to believe in things that make me weak.
Something was famous man on the internet and then all of a sudden gone
from the internet. So today's sit down as a sit down many of you have been asking about
for a while and we finally pulled it off. There's been no conversations of what we chance
to talk about. He said nothing's off limits. We're talking everything and anything. However
he chooses to answer, I was just going to be on him. Today's guest is Andrew Tate. Many will call him possibly the most popular man on social media.
The last six months, nearly 20 billion views on all social media. The most search man on social,
we were looking at the list. We put up Biden. We put up Trump, we put up Putin, we put up everybody, and he was up there.
Some periods he was above everybody else.
And recently he got banned in late August.
I think the third or fourth week of August,
he got banned late August.
And at that time from June to July,
his Instagram account was growing out
a hundred thousand followers, new followers on a daily basis,
on track to get to 10, 20, 40, 50 million followers
on Instagram, suddenly like this, he gets banned.
Everybody's wondering what happened.
Some have positive thoughts about it.
Some didn't have positive thoughts about it.
We'll get into that as well.
But take, appreciate you for making the time in.
It's good to be spending these few hours with you.
Absolutely, I'm glad to be here, guys.
Thank you very much for having me, man.
So, so let's get right into it.
So this banning happens happens and we've had
a lot of different people in the Pasqued Band. I'll read some of the people and why they got banned.
Sure. And I think the first question we want to get into is what everybody wants to know.
No one still knows. Everything is pure speculation.
Trump got banned of all social and also social because of the insurrection.
Yeah.
Alex Jones promoting and inciting violence, whether it it's Sandy Hook, whether it's Pizza Gate.
Eventually they just said we got to kind of cut this off.
Mylulianopolis got banned in 2016 from Twitter for inciting harassment of SNL and Ghostbusters
star Leslie Jones. Louis Farrakhan was banned for anti-Semitism comments spreading cage.
Louis Farrakhan was banned for anti-Semitism comments spreading cage. Rob Kardashian was banned in 2017 for a revenge porn picture of his ex-girlfriend, K-Black
China.
Kanye West was banned temporarily for repeated posts that threatened both Kim and Pete Davidson.
Rihanna got banned because they called it inciting horningness, believe it or not, that's what
it was called.
And for posting a topless photo of herself,
then she later on came back on,
Rose began on Godband in 2017 off Twitter
for calling on Godband Affleck for his business relationship
with Harvey Weinstein and I lasted 12 hours.
Chelsea Handler in 2014 for posting a new picture,
many were upset when she did that, but she did posted.
Marjorie Taylor Greene got banned in 2022
for repeated tweets
in which she shared false and dangerous info about COVID-19.
Oh, false, false and dangerous. That's what they called it. Sorry to interrupt, but yeah,
that's very interesting. And if PewDiePie was banned from Twitter for making a joke about ISIS,
okay. So why did Andrew Tate get banned? They did not tell me. They did not send me an email,
no correspondence. I certainly
didn't break terms of service. I guess that's why they could send me an email and explain why.
Nobody told me whether it was YouTube that banned me or meta that banned me. They banned me instantly
instantly and forever without any kind of correspondence. They've not told me why. They've not told
me why I did. The media machine in synchronization with the ban, we can call that coincidence if you
want to believe in such things, came out with some kind of bullshit explanation that I'm
misogynistic or some garbage, but the actual social media companies themselves provided
no explanation at all, no correspondence at all, they just deleted me and I was in.
Now are you doing anything about it?
Are you having your legal team trying to find out
why they did that or you're not taking any action right now?
I do have a lot of things happening behind the scenes.
However, and perhaps I'm becoming optimistic in my old age,
but I believe that in due course, the social media companies will realize the mistake
they made.
I think that, and like I said, I don't have intimate knowledge of the workings of social media
companies, but assuming they are semi-professional to any regard, and that is a big assumption,
but let's assume they are professional.
That means that when they ban somebody like me, especially the most Google search person
on the planet, they must have teams which are analyzing in real time the response to
set action, right?
They should have people sit in there on the ground analyzing.
Now they attacked me with their media machine because first they shut you up so they can
lie about you.
So they shut me up.
Then they did the massive media push to try and attempt to lie about me.
But despite that, the majority of comments regarding me are still positive.
The majority of people believe and understand that this ban is unfair.
And if these companies have any degree of professionalism, they're analyzing this in real time, and
they're understanding that this makes us look very bad.
People didn't believe the lie.
People didn't believe what we attempted to smear this man with.
Nobody is buying this narrative.
And this is going to have a negative effect on us for a very, very long time, because when you're in charge of the world, which they are, as soon as you're no longer seen as
just and fair, you're seen as tyrannical. And once you're seen as tyrannical, then there's
going to be some kind of mass movement against you. So if I was a social media executive,
I would sit and I would analyze the data, and I would say, listen, guys, we will have a monopoly,
we want to retain our monopoly let's be smart here being known
as tyrannical amongst the public consciousness across the entire planet it's gonna make it very
difficult for us to hold our monopoly for a longer period of time as opposed to being seen
to be fair even if we're biased we must be seen as fair sure as soon as we're seen as tyrannical
that's when the revolution look at Chowketskou As soon as you're a tyrant, that's when everyone hits the streets.
So I think that if they have any kind of serious data monitoring
and if they have any kind of serious business professionalism,
they are now talking in dark rooms, understanding that
this has played out very badly for them.
And if they intend on keeping them monopoly
into the future that they need to change something,
maybe I may optimize the rules.
Who was the first one to take you off?
Meta.
Meta was first.
Meta.
Facebook Instagram.
Facebook Instagram.
Okay.
And then it was a domino effect.
Yeah, so Meta took me down.
So it's quite interesting, actually.
I had a YouTube channel for a while.
It was never so large.
I had 738,000 subscribers.
It took me a long time to build it up.
I got a strike on YouTube, which prevented me from posting.
It's got a strike. No big deal. me from posting. It's got a strike.
That'll be deal.
The next day, Met Up took me down, deleted my Facebook and my Instagram.
The press came out at exactly the same time in sync, saying that I'm a misogynistic,
dangerous person, that I'm harmful, that I am the reason that the world is not a perfect
place.
World hunger, you name it.
All my fault.
Attacked me across all of this and I thought, okay, let me fill in the message that I can
get out on my YouTube, my final message, which I don't know if you guys have seen, I'm
putting on free topg.com.
Let me fill in my final message explaining how this is unfair and unjust.
We filmed it, we produced it, we got it all at AA within 12 hours, had to tell ready to
go, but we couldn't post it because the YouTube strike.
So we're waiting for the YouTube strike to expire.
A few hours before the YouTube strike expires, guess what happens?
They banned it from YouTube. Then they banned me from Discord. Then they banned me from Airbnb.
They banned me from Stripe. I can't even remember. It was just emails coming in fast and
you could believe. So the Matrix Press is a bant, bant, bant. So Matrix, the so-
Oh no, no, the Matrix presses a button.
My friend, every app on your phone stops working.
Uber, you name it.
Uber, stop.
You name it.
Wait, you can't use Uber.
Well, I can use Uber.
You just start a new account, right?
But, yeah, I'm sorry, Uber.
Catch me.
But when your main account on Uber was taken,
they take everything.
Everything.
You need an effort, all at once. What taken they take everything All at once
All at once every single one of them just goes no delete delete delete delete delete and I come at you and they come at you
Everything right. Thank you. It process. I am banks UK based banks as well high street banks
But I can name satan dare HSBC Barclays etc all the same times
I'll know sorry to change we've decided because blah, blah, blah,
some bullshit, some letter, closer accounts.
So they take all your banking,
they take your payment processing,
they go to your social media presence,
they take your discord, they take your Skype,
they go to your accounts, your belief,
you communicate with people,
and then they lie about you in the press.
And they leave you there,
they leave you there to suffer.
They attempt to run out of money.
You can understand the social component.
All right, these guys are probably
all working in unison.
When you hear aim at processors, banks, apps like Uber,
how are you processing that?
No, I mean, that's why he has to do something about it.
Because, you know, for me, there's plenty of great lawyers.
Did you hear about what happened with Alex Brennison lately?
Alex Brennison?
Alex, is it?
Yeah, Aaronson Baronson.
Aaronson?
He's a writer.
He was a person, I think he's a writer.
I heard he sued Twitter or something.
He sued Twitter.
I don't know the exact story now.
So he was on Joe Rogan, if you've not seen it, I highly recommend you watch this.
So he is saying things about Twitter.
As a matter of fact, the tweet that got him in trouble, got him his fifth strike was the following
tweet.
We can put this up there because I'm just reading what he said.
This is a tweet he put out that he said, it doesn't stop infection or transmission.
Don't think of it as a vaccine.
Think of it as at best, a therapeutic with a limited window of efficacy and terrible
side effects profile that must be
those in advance of illness and we want to mandate it in sanity. That's a
sweet. So he gets banned.
Thanks a lot.
Sounds to me in December of last year, which was six months after when Biden
said anybody who allows debates of vaccine should be banned or
shouldn't be allowed.
Meaning there shouldn't be any of that.
So six months after that he gets banned.
In April, a judging California, California is a believe it or not, a very big freedom
of speech place because they are protesting.
A judge that was appointed by Bill Clinton comes in and says, I'm allowing this to go
through because typically section 230 that is in place in
1990 it was to protect social media sites and many of these online sites that if you offend
your ex-wife or if you offend your brother has nothing to do with Facebook so they kind of
protected themselves but Alex was able to go all the way because it is court judge that was
appointed by Clinton not not Obama or Trump, or by Clinton.
He goes in, eventually he says,
you get to have two people from Twitter
to come to court to defend themselves.
So he could go to Jack Dorsey.
Long story short, they finally lifted it.
He is on Twitter and he's posting heavily
talking about the fact that the reason why he got banned
is because the government didn't want him on inciting what he was inciting. So the moral
the story is when you say something like that, for someone like you, you seem like your methodical
guy, you see your, you know, your chess guy, your dad's a chess person, you know, five-time,
United Armed Force champion, five time, six times in
the end of state, you will play that five years old against 16 year olds.
You don't play chess with that being strategic thinking about your next few moves.
Correct.
So if you don't do anything and bring lawyers in to the markets, I've interviewed a lot
of people who are in the mob, to the market, it sounds like they're right.
Absolutely.
But if you do and you defend yourself,
you're not only doing it for yourself,
but you're also doing it for others who
maybe don't have your kind of resources to say,
correct.
Hey, this guy's willing to stand up.
He kind of helped change it off for me.
Correct.
Because the one case, it was the Sikhs against Facebook.
That's the case that helped them out.
India years ago, they don't like this Facebook group
that had Sikhs. It was a
Sikh Facebook page. So India told Facebook to take them off. Facebook took them off. Then
Sikhs sued Facebook. That became the precedence. So somebody like you can potentially set
a new one against section 230. Absolutely. I certainly have legal options being explored. And I don't
want to say too much on the podcast, but legal options are certainly being explored. We'll see how
things progress across the next few weeks. But I have a very strong suspicion I will end up
back on the media platforms, or they will offer them back to me. The question now at this point is
if I even want them anymore, which is a unique question because a lot of people still believe that you can only have a significant presence in the world with
these social media platforms.
That's the source of their power.
I believe there's huge pressure behind the dam in regards to the fact that everybody understands
that these places are tyrannical and that they control ideas and that they force narratives.
And I use my wording as the matrix.
I call them the matrix and people say,
why do you call them the matrix?
And I say because they project a false version of reality
in real time that people subscribe to.
If there wasn't an absolute blacklist
on all opposing views during COVID-19,
that bullshit would never have gone on for as long as it did.
It went on for as long as it did,
and they managed to purport a false version of reality
for so long, because you couldn't discuss the opposing side,
which is talked about our friend here who got banned
for saying something very sensible and logical.
So when you get huge media companies
that can literally alter and reality in real time,
by deleting the other side of an argument,
they're creating a matrix.
That's what I like to call it.
So I call them the source of the matrix.
So people understand this, and there's huge pressure
behind the dam, but the problem is people say,
well, what's the alternative?
And I think if someone could pave the way and put a crack
in the dam by maintaining massive relevancy despite
of a ban and still having a social media platform and presence
which is respected on other platforms.
I think it's gonna do them significant damage.
I think the pressure and the crack together
is gonna create something monumental.
And already I've moved to Rumble.
I only had 738,000 subscribers on my YouTube
after five years of work.
Post-Ban, I moved to Rumble,
which is a YouTube competitor.
Stock price has gone up 36%.
And I'm at half a million subscribers
in two weeks. So I'm about to surpass the size of my YouTube channel within a month. YouTube stocks
down, Rumble stocks massively up. So all in all, there's other avenues. But we'll see, I certainly
agree with you that what they've done to me is massively unfair. They know it's unfair. I think the
reason they didn't send me an email or any confirmation of what I did wrong
is because they knew they were going to end up in court.
And they didn't want to be tied down to their reason.
They want to stay fluid and try to make up a reason on the day.
I've heard from very reliable sources that their terms of service have changed significantly
post my ban.
They've made up new reasons.
Post ban, they've made up a bunch of new shit. So it's going to be interesting. But certainly, yeah, there has to be legal ramifications for what they've made up new reasons, post ban, they've made up a bunch of new shit.
So it's going to be interesting, but certainly, yeah, there has to be legal ramifications
for what they've done.
I don't take it personally, but I do take it professionally, and you're right, they
were wrong.
I have no reason to be banned.
My Instagram is just cars.
It's just cars.
And a little bit of flexing, there's no politics.
There's not even any points of view.
I had no strikes.
Nothing. It's just a hit piece.
So we did it.
If there were betting odds, like if we did a poll,
why do you think Andrew Tate was banned
from all the social media platforms?
And it was misogyny, right?
You know, COVID stuff against the government,
against system.
If you were a betting man,
where would you kind of place the odds?
I already know.
Everybody already knows I was banned, because I talk against the system.
Against the matrix.
Just the system in general.
The system in general, yeah.
I mean, someone had compared me to Socrates, which is a compliment, but he was vilified,
he ended up poisoning himself and Athens, and the charge against him was corrupting the
youth.
If you read about his poisoning and his arrest, they said he was corrupting the youth,
but he wasn't corrupting them.
He was inspiring them to challenge authority,
he was inspiring them to think for themselves.
When they were told something,
sort of blindly complying, he said,
look, analyze who these people are
who are telling you to do X.
And I even had a tweet and I put out on my,
I've been banned on Twitter forever.
So I've been through 20 Twitter bands.
I come back as undercover, whatever.
But I've been saying for all, I said often, I said, if you have a point of view
that you are very strong in your adherence to,
if you truly believe something,
you need to sit and analyze whether it's
your own personal experience that makes you believe something
or if someone else or something else
has convinced you of this.
And if they have, you need to then once again,
analyze that point of view and analyze who these people are and what they want from you. Do they truly want the best of you?
If the news convinces you of something to the point where you're going to argue with your only
own family members at dinner table, does the news really care about you more than your family?
This is a genuine question. You need to analyze every belief you hold where it came from.
And then analyze what their intentions are. And if
you start to do that, you look at something like COVID for example, it's an easy one.
You look all the bullshit they were saying and you sit here and go, wait, wait, these
people don't care about me. If I had diabetes or insulin, I needed insulin or I had cancer
or I, if I got a car crash and they'd be hitting me with medical bills, I could never
possibly afford. They'd let me die, but they are insisting I take this shot for free.
On repeat, this doesn't make sense.
And when you and when you encourage people to think for themselves, especially the youth,
that's what Socrates got accused of.
He's corrupting the youth.
And to be honest with you, a huge portion of my fan base were 18 to 23, 24 year old
males.
When you have the youth, the masculine youth of the world, thinking for themselves, that's
pretty scary to a furry, because it's the masculine youth of the world that is one, the
revolutionaries, and two, also, that's the backbone of the slave force.
If you need people to go dying a ditch in Afghanistan, you need them.
If you need people to work bullshit jobs and of coal mine, with no healthcare, you need
them.
If you need people to blindly comply to bullshit, you need them more than anybody,
more than you need the feminists and the fucking liberals,
you need the real men to go out there
and comply with the bullshit,
to live a shitty existence,
to purport and prop up a system.
The warrior class.
The warrior class, right?
And if enough of these men stand in one place
and say this is enough,
that's what a revolution happens.
So this is the most dangerous group of the demographic that the matrix and the people are trying to control and they have to have a revolution happens. So this is the most dangerous group of the demographic
that the matrix and the people are trying to control
and they have to have a narrative over.
And that's why they're trying to weaken them
on every regard.
And when I'm sitting there saying,
don't listen to the bullshit,
become physically strong, think for yourself,
prioritize your brotherhood above what the fucking matrix
is telling you, do not blindly comply, resist the slave mind,
all these things I'm saying, they just sat there one day
and said, wait, the most popular person on the planet saying don't listen to our bullshit.
Believe.
Yeah, so I don't think I have an issue with somebody
coming after my name saying whatever they want to say. It's gonna happen. That's a part of the game.
The bigger you get, the louder you get, whether it's in business,
a part of the game, the bigger you get, the louder you get, whether it's in business, theology, church, military, social media, you're going to have that happen and Hollywood's
going to happen to you.
The concern is when we can't have debate.
There's nothing more powerful than you and I have in a debate.
You know, vaccine, in our family, we sat down, we had to conversation about vaccine.
My dad's a conservative, 80 years old, he says, I'm going to take the vaccine and I'm going to take the second shot
and I'm going to take a booster and I'm going to take another booster. He went through all the boosters, right?
And he says, but I'm doing it because of my edge. I'm like, go for it. Do you want me to hate my nanny?
Yeah, I'm going to do this. I'm taking this. Go for it. We had a conversation and then we made a decision.
What people wanted to do. Nothing wrong with that, but to not allow that discourse to take place is a challenge. To be fair, I went on there and I asked our research team.
I said, guys, tell me everything Tate said that's pissed people off.
Okay, I want to read some of this stuff.
And some of it's rubs on people the wrong way and some of it's offended certain people,
but these are some of the things that you've said in the past before.
You said, it's been proving that the smartest people in the world are men.
Okay.
Correct.
I think you had that with bar stool sports and they came up with a portnoy
in the high IQ and a later on, it was proving that most of the IQ was more men
than it was women.
Absolutely.
Next, I will not administer CPR until you're unless you're a hot female.
Yeah.
So, so the what's actually interesting is,
and this is what's really, really important,
because it becomes a broader argument
than just me and what's happened to me.
And I wanna make something clear
to the social media companies also as a whole.
A lot of the things I said were in longer format video
on YouTube three, four years ago,
and the way that social media is being produced and also digested has changed
significantly in last year. It's all TikTok, it's all YouTube shorts, it's all Instagram
stories. TikTok in real time has destroyed the attention span of billions of people. Have
you ever watched somebody on TikTok? How long do they give a video before they get bored? How, what's someone next? Let me see some of the seconds.
Boring, boring.
Yeah, boring.
Like, your attention span is gone.
You can no longer focus on the real world.
You can't focus on anything.
ADHD is being developed in real time from these apps, right?
So the idea of me producing a seven, eight minute video
like I used to, and people consuming all of it
and understanding the context is gone.
They'll take one few seconds, like me saying I wouldn't administer CPR to a man, for example.
And it was actually satire, of course.
It's a joke.
I talk at length about how that's the whole point.
It's a joke.
But they take that one part, they put on a TikTok, boom, boom, boom, they add some editing,
they remove the talent, they make it interesting and funny, and it goes viral.
That's fine.
But the point we now live in a world where anything you ever say can be taken out of context.
Anything you ever say can be weaponized against you.
And I'm not complaining, I don't believe in complaining, I believe in responsibility.
And I'm not saying I didn't say them, and I'm not saying I didn't mean it.
I'm saying that most of the people who are upset by things I've said have heard a few
clips out of context and never actually digested any of my content seriously.
You know, because that was part of a very long video. I've heard a few clips out of context and never actually digested any of my content seriously.
You know, because that was part of a very long video. The idea that I would let my brother die next to me.
My own brother or my friend die next to me. Because he's not a hot chick. He's not a hot chick. He's ass in line. It's an enemy, right? But it's stupid to even believe it. But if you watch the whole video at length,
that makes sense. But if you only see that, then it doesn't make sense. You know, it's crazy though.
I'm sure you saw what Rogan said about you.
And the position they took when we're talking about you and they're like, look, we need
this guy because he's got to keep talking about the stuff.
And he's having a conversation with Brandon Schop.
I think it's Eddie, it's all these guys that are on the brink.
And then they're like, yeah, this guy know We got to protect what he has to say, but then Jake Paul said I don't roll with tape. I don't I'd love to knock his ass out
He said something like that, but then he said but what I do support is
Free speech, but then his brother said something else his brother said you know the shit that Andrew Tate says will have a ripple effect
Much more dangerous than you can imagine because his narrative is truly hateful.
His rhetoric has extreme negative energy in it and it will affect impressionable young
people that won't show for years from now and it's dangerous.
Now this is what he says.
Logan Paul, you're saying?
But I want to say this before you comments on it.
And then junior supportive, you Tucker supported you.
I think the guys that like debate and
comedians, people who appreciate humor, can understand that some of the stuff
you're saying is funny as hell. You could be a comedian if you wanted to, but a
person has to really pay attention to the comedy. But you know, some can run
with it, some cannot run with it. When you hear the people that support and
don't support you, how do you process that?
So first things first, I want to get very, very clear that Logan Paul is absolutely not
really a tool of the matrix.
He's a bought and sold individual with no soul.
He doesn't stand up for anything and he doesn't mean anything he says.
He gets pieces of paper from Susan or whoever else telling him what he's allowed to say
on his channel to retain.
You believe that.
100% non-dui believe he's proved himself.
He will flip flop on any issue.
He can be bought and sold. The dudes of bitch. Logan Paul is a bitch and I will say that here publicly
If anyone wants to I'll fight him for free the guys in India no money needed no my go to Paul Logan Paul
Doesn't believe any of the things he says Logan Paul is a man if you ever were
Unfortunate enough to consume his content. I get sent clips of it all the time by people mocking him. As soon as something comes out,
whether it's Harry Styles wearing a dress,
whether it's Lil Nas twerking on the devil,
whether it's this, he just sits there and goes,
yeah, this is great, yeah, this is great.
He is a talking piece.
He is the mouthpiece for the agenda.
The people have come along,
people who are trying to force an area,
if they said, look, we need to have some degree of control
over the exact demographic that Tate has control over.
We're going to use Logan Paul and attempt to use him.
And he sits there and just purports the bullshit points
of view that the whole Hollywood establishment
won him to report.
He doesn't believe in the things he said.
He's told what to say.
And because he was canceled before and emotionally
destroyed him, he sat on camera, crying his eyes out
like a little girl.
Instead of being a man about it, he is so fearful of the mob and so scared of being canceled again
They even sit there and say anything he's told he doesn't believe that shit before I was canceled him and his boyfriend Mike
Did endless videos supporting me laughing about me saying how funny I was
Tagging me on Instagram inviting me places, etc. The second I'm canceled. They flip reverse it and shit themselves because they don't want to get canceled too
They are children. That's all they are. So Logan Paul's a bitch. That's the first thing about Logan Paul.
And what's actually been interesting about this whole cancellation thing is,
it hasn't negatively affected me in any serious way because I've been saying on podcasts for years,
I know what cancellation is coming. I knew it was coming. I knew that as I got more popular and more
powerful to a degree that was going to come. But what it has done is it has awoken the world to anyone
who's perspicacious enough to pay attention
to learn which individuals out here in the social media space
actually have character and belief what they say
and which are completely bought and sold
and are tools to the matrix.
The people who have decided to stand up for me
and say, no, this is bullshit,
are people who have to some degree credibility.
You know, this is just people who say what they truly believe.
But the people who were totally a fan
and then post-cancellation shit themselves in one age
and get a new piece of paper to talk from,
that should tell the public out there exactly
who's controlled and whether these people have
a genuine narrative that they're trying to report on the world.
And it's interesting.
Logan's one of them and there's a few others,
but I'm glad it happened just to that alone,
because it's actually very clear.
If you go to Logan Paul's last podcast
where he's discussing me, all of his fans,
and we'll talk about fans and viewers in a minute,
because I think they're very different things.
All of his fans, which he has none of,
all of his viewers are sitting there and soling it.
Same bro, you're a fucking bitch.
Like everyone, all the people,
his own watchers are calling him names,
because it's so transparent
and so obvious what he's doing.
Fans versus viewers. fans versus viewers fans
Versus the dude is very different things. So he doesn't have any fans he has viewers and Susan and the matrix and the people in charge of the social media companies
Are like okay, we've set our media machine. Let me ask you guys questions as professionals. Let's assume
As professionals let's assume what I'm saying is correct
Let's assume that the social media companies when they banned me set their media machine to all release thousands of news articles at the same time trying to give
into the world on an evil man. If they had that degree of power and influence, which I think we can
all probably agree they do, don't you think they take their number one talking piece to the
demographic, which is my fan and give him a piece of paper and telling what to say? Does that
not make sense? Does that make sense to say what we told all the news to say takes bad?
And all of this fans are 18 to 25-year-old men.
Who do we have on YouTube who obeys us like a little cock,
who could speak to 18 to 25-year-old men?
Logan Paul.
Okay, Logan, here's your piece of paper.
Do you want to get canceled again, Logan?
No, you don't get canceled, do you?
No, no, my-
You were saying the call like that was made?
100% the tuts of bitch!
He won a ead from a super fan
to just talking about my retro- dangerous, but there's in 24 hours
There's a difference between you saying who you think he is
Versus you making the speculation that he got called by somebody to say here's a narrative
We want you to take or else we'll silence you well Logan is not capable of independent thought
So someone didn't give him an area. You didn't think it up himself. There's an empty vessel
He says what he is told to say somebody somewhere told Logan what to say and what stance to take. We can argue
whether it was a social media company, whether it was this manager who was fearful, whether whatever,
but somebody sat with Logan and said, look, Tate's getting a lost smoke. You were cool with him.
Your boyfriend, Mike, was cool with him. He's getting a lost smoke right now. You're going to
bitch out. And he sat there and said, yes, sir, sir Yes, I will because he has no character or no integrity if it was all the other way around
Let's imagine he was getting canceled and I truly believed it was unfair
I'd sit there on my own platform and say this is bullshit because I'm not bought sold alone
He's an owned individual so he's always gonna say what he is told to say
He's always gonna sit on podcasts speaking to the youth promoting
He's always gonna say what he is told to say. He's always gonna sit on podcasts,
speaking to the youth, promoting Harry Styles'
wearing a dress, saying that it's great
that little Nas works on the devil in real time
for our children to digest, and then say,
I'm dangerous to do, because that's what he's been told to say.
Logan Paul has absolutely no capability
for independent thought and he has no characters, man.
That's who Logan Paul is.
Now you said he got canceled in the past.
I don't think he ever got canceled.
I think his channel was demonetized for 90 days, but they kept all the stuff up. He was never
taken fully down like you were fully taken down. They just kind of demonetized. This is for the
Japanese Japanese video where apparently he went to a place where yeah, so you commit suicide in Japan.
Yeah, I'm not completely familiar with the absolute mechanics of its cancellation.
All I do know is that you cried on television repeatedly.
So the dude was obviously emotionally affected by it and is fearful of it.
When someone is scared of something, that's the tool you used to manipulate.
Well, he is scared of being cancer because when this happens, you're 35 years old, right?
You're a grown man.
I know you like to joke.
I'm an old man.
I mean, you're literally your prime, bro.
When that happened to him, he was 23 years old.
This was five years ago.
I think he's 27 now, 22, whatever.
You've had a lot more life experiences
and been in fights, literally, proverbial, all that,
versus someone who's 23.
I could see where you're coming from being like,
he's been groomed by this, by this virtual
government, these digital media companies.
He needs them.
He needs them.
He needs them.
He needs them.
He needs them.
And you're right, you was younger at the time.
I would like to think that Patrick has been through a much harder situation in his
life at younger than 23 than cancellation and wasn't crying his eyes out like a little
girl.
So the dude's all too emotionally soft.
He needs them and the reason he needs them is
because Logan Paul doesn't have fancy as viewers.
And that's what's actually been highlighted to me
significantly since my banning.
That there's a massive difference between those two things.
Logan Paul is a person who needs the platforms
and needs the algorithms and people will watch him
but they will sit there and most of them will call him names
but he will have views.
That is different than having fans.
When you have fans, like me, for example,
when I got canceled, they say, where's tape?
Where is he?
I'll go anywhere he is.
I'll download it.
It's a app.
I'll install the other apps.
I'll take his content and post it on the platforms.
They don't want him on.
Where is tape?
That's a fan.
And that's different.
When you only have viewers, you need the algorithm.
I don't need the algorithm.
As long as people know where I am, they're gonna come.
And it's a complete difference, Mario.
Who's playbook you think he's following?
If you were to say, because isn't that the Hollywood playbook?
Like you follow that playbook, and as long as you, because that's what you're speculating.
He's following the playbook up.
You follow our narrative.
We're going to give you the world.
I think that since the dawn of human time, anybody who had power understood that it was a particular demographic, which
is going to become dangerous to their power-necked mechanism in the future.
It's not a new idea.
The idea that the Romans would conquer a Greek city and kill all the boys and all the military
age males, it's always been the same, right?
Who's going to cause us trouble if we want to hold this city?
These guys, look at it.
So nowadays, I think what they're trying to do is neuter this class.
They're trying to neuter this class by affecting them mentally, affecting their mindset,
affecting their ability to think critically.
And if you neuter this class, you're far less likely to have a revolution when you do
something crazy.
I don't know, for example, imagine for two and a half years you wanted to walk at one
in their houses because of the common cold.
Let's imagine you were going to do something tyrannical.
You would want to ensure that this class of individuals
were so busy concerned with either being depressed
or jerking off or being physically weak
or distracted, so they didn't all stand up and go,
wait, this common cold can't hurt me.
And I just started my business
and I ain't going bankrupt for this shit.
They don't want that.
So they're trying to new or a certain class of people.
I don't really wanna talk too much in depth about who I think they are because I'm trying to stay
alive and I would never kill myself. But it's certainly happening. I think anybody with a brain
can see the narrative is out there and the narrative is being corrected and accelerated by all mainstream
media channels. And people who are allowed to have a platform such as Logan Paul have sold their
soul, cut their dicks off, and they sat there and say, yes, I will say what you tell me to say. Please
don't cancel me.
I am a fearful individual.
Dude is a pop.
They've ever meet me in the cage.
I'll destroy him in real time for free.
And he knows that.
What about the brother?
Well, Jericho, at least, well, this is the interesting
about those two, right?
Because me and my brother become
the most famous brothers on the planet.
So there's also a degree of jealousy involved.
I was just going to ask that you get the tape rose
and the Paul brothers and it's like this balance of power
that's being shifted and it's completely sort of this dance
that's happening.
It's interesting, right?
Because you had the Disney brothers.
I know.
The Disney brothers who gained a bunch of power and no
sobriety and they were the most famous brothers on the planet
and they've now been usurped by my brother and I
who come from a very unfortunate background and grew
from the street and did everything ourselves. And obviously the youth of the
world today have an affinity and feel a synergy with us that they don't feel
with the Disney brothers because the Disney brothers had a very easy privilege
life. You know they grew up relatively easily and privileged. You get Disney
contract, then you've come to YouTube or you've never really no struggle. I mean
you've had it pretty good. So there's a degree of jealousy involved.
Jake at least stood up for free speech. Uh, Jake has said some negative comments about
me. I've said up to you negative things about him, but I have nothing personal against
Jake. And also I find it interesting that Jake and Logan are not even that close. They
may pretend to be obviously their brothers, but Jake and KSI have beef. They're literally
trying to hurt each other. Logan is KSI's best friend. When you ask Logan,
what would he choose between KSI and his brother and a boxing match? He's like, oh, I don't know, man.
He can't even choose his own flesh and blood over some fucking dude. He mad. It's their whole
relationship is weird. If you insult my brother or you have any kind of problem with my brother,
your problem with me. That's on-site permanent. Like me, my brother are like this, but they're not like
that.
They have this weird relationship
and they've slept with each other's girlfriends
and a bunch of weird shit.
So I don't know what's going on with them.
That's not good.
Yeah, I can't say I did say,
thank God Andrew, take God back.
Go ahead, you were safe, something.
I mean, we're talking about the tape brothers.
Right.
And the Paul brothers, arguably the two most famous
set of brothers in the world.
But you've got two sons, right?
Well, similar age difference.
For me, these guys, for me, here's what I like.
I'm a pro competition guy.
The fact that he went on rumble
and he got a half a million subs in two weeks,
you know who wins, you know who wins.
The market.
The world wins.
The fact that he went on rumble
got a half a million subs.
Good job for Chris, we for making a move out of right
We know we've had good conversations at the house with him and he's making a move right now on
Our body guy we like Russell Brandon a few other guys. I'm a but the stop. He's
But go back to this I want both to be competing
I got two boys. I want the tapes going against Paul's to go against this completely.
I run an insurance company.
We have a lot of siblings that compete against each other.
It's great for the market.
But where I was going when I said who was Logan Paul's playbook he's following, right?
He's 27.
The video you talked about 23 when it was in December in 2017 I want to say when he was in
Japan.
The video with him and his girl when you know the
what he called it the belt that when he got you got kicked off a big brother or whatever
was in 2016 but that video is from 2012 10 years ago he's 25 so 23 25 you know you coming
from that kind of an environment you can kind of hold the two things at the same level of accountability.
One is suicide the other one is you, a extreme method of sexual, you know,
the sexual sex, that, you know, it is what it is.
But this one I was going with it, years ago,
and I'm just trying to see, because, you know,
the whole thing, what would Jesus do?
Everybody has a WW something, right?
So, Logan, when he did the Japan thing,
the story came out, he was talking about it openly
that the rock said, rocks people said, hey man, you got a distance yourself from him.
But apparently what he told is, rocks people contacted to say, hey, delete all the pictures
that we have to get her, et cetera, et cetera.
So maybe he's going into wrestling, he's following rocks footsteps.
Rock is definitely somebody that if we ever wanted a real for office, that's a guy that could do it if he wanted it.
I think Logan's another guy with you like him or not. I think he's, uh, he's got
the pedigree to one day run. It doesn't mean you're going to support his policies.
But he is a guy that's going in the direction of one day running 20, 30 years. He could do it.
So maybe he's sitting there saying, what would the rock do?
He distanced himself from me. Well, maybe I gotta stop defending this guy
and I gotta distance myself from him.
I wasn't going to the angle of Hillary Clinton
called or all these guys.
I was going more of what playbook as he followed.
I understand exactly what you're saying,
but I would disagree and the reason I would disagree
is because that requires a degree of thought
and intellect that Logan Paul disowned. He did it idiot.
No, I know he's an idiot.
He's not thinking that far ahead.
He's literally, someone has told him, say this,
and he says it.
It doesn't, and it's not just me.
There's been loads of examples,
and I put it on my podcast on Rumble,
where we went through all the times
where something came up, some controversial subject,
the people were discussing, discussing,
is this good for the public consciousness?
And the answer was always basically no. Is this necessary for children to be consuming?
The answer was always basically no. But it was reported by the Hollywood elites, and Logan was always the number one person sticking up for it.
He is bought and sold by somebody, whether he's management team, whoever they are,
they think it's good for him to act this particular way. He does not think for himself. He says what he is told to say.
But isn't that Hollywood in general? Completely.
Right?
The Matrix.
Exactly.
So we agree.
The agents of the Matrix, some minds are not ready to be free.
And those who are not ready to be free, they're going to sit there and they're going to defend
the system.
What does Morpheus say himself?
He's sitting there defending the system.
Logan Paul is going to sit and pretend that the world is going to be a better place if
you remove all opposing ideas.
And he's going to sit there and say that because he's a moron. Anyone with a brain understands that if you care about
your children and your children's children, they need to live in a world of healthy
competition. Exactly as you said, as soon as you remove all opposing viewpoints or all
competition, you end in tyranny. And anyone with a brain will sit and say, I don't, if
you have any kind of character, you'd say, I completely do not agree with what take
sets. However, de-platforming is wrong because of X.
He doesn't have to talk about me or what I've said.
He can sit there and say, no, de-platforming is wrong
because we need to have opposing viewpoints,
opposing ideals, idea A, idea B,
the truth is perhaps in the middle.
He has no intellect.
He's no intellectual.
He can't do that.
He's not smart enough.
Take's bad today.
Okay, tell me when he's good again. He's a
born-soal individual. When my hero arc completes, because we're at a transition stage, when my
hero arc completes, and much like Batman, people understand that we thought he was the bad
guy, but we realized we needed him. And when I come back to save Gotham, and the hero arc
completes, you'll see him and his little boyfriend back on Instagram saying, Tates funny, and swap
again, because it's allowed.
That's all he is.
That's your prediction for him.
Not prediction is absolute matter of fact, especially.
It also couples in with the fact that he's extremely jealous of my brother and I success,
because my brother and I success is not based on the same successes that he enjoyed.
His success is based on being a clown.
That's why he has viewers.
He puts on a Pokemon suit and he jumps around with a clown.
He doesn't sit there and give ideas or say things
that make people think to the point
where they genuinely resonate with your mindset.
He's not intelligent enough of that.
He's a performing clown as opposed to a philosopher.
So there are different opposite things
and he knows that and it upsets him.
He can't sit in front of a camera by himself
and say words that are gonna inspire the crowds
of any city in the world to shout to shout your name.
If I were to walk through Madrid right now, there would be young people shouting my name.
Top G, top G, that's because of what I say.
He puts on a Pokemon suit and does a dance.
He's an entertainer.
He's not a thinker.
It's different.
It just has that conversation yesterday.
They're different.
Right.
And this is sort of to your credit. We were having this
conversation because we knew we'd have this sort of dialogue. And he said Pat was asking me, Adam,
what do you think? I said, you get to understand something about where I my perspective on tape is
95% of what I've seen about tape is camera to the face him talking and spitting game. Right. When
you're talking about the Paul brothers, it's fighting, dancing,
you know, all sorts of whatever,
whatever, whatever.
I've never seen you in the ring.
I've seen your highlights.
Highlights, but I've never seen that.
So people know your rhetoric.
They know what you're saying,
and whether they agree or disagree,
you're known for what's coming out of your mouth,
versus they're known for antics. And that's the difference between a fan and a viewer. That's what goes back to your initial point
He has viewers because he's a clown clowns can have viewers that's fine
And you need an algorithm and you need a platform for that
But if you have genuine fans like I do they ban me people who like to this day wear his tape and they will go anywhere
I am anywhere I am they will come because they don't believe they can find my rhetoric or my
ideas somewhere else.
If you bad Logan Paul, they can find another moron to jump around in front of the camera
for you.
They can promote someone else inside of their algo and steal his entire audience inside
of a week.
He can disappear and they can replace him.
He knows that.
That's why he says what he's supposed to say.
If I stop being the performing clown, the new performing clown comes, the alcohol favors him, they put him up there,
and he does a stupid dance, and he gets all my viewers.
I'm a complete different color fish, different story.
That was a great perspective in a retainer versus thinker, right?
I mean, when you talk about,
let's just say there's a dialogue about Joe Rogan,
what are you talking about?
So the other thing you do have this guest on,
and you know what this person, and Joe said this, you're having a dialogue with another person. But are you talking about? So, the other thing you'd do on this guest on, and you know what this person, Joe said this,
you're having a dialogue with another person.
But if you talk about, you know what,
the other day, man, Logan did this one video, it's hilarious.
So, that's where he's going is,
one is creating dialogue,
the other one is creating entertainment.
I can see that.
And by the way, you know,
one thing, the day you got banned,
we wrote up a story and we posted it on Twitter.
And I said, so this guy's a threat to society, the way they're presenting it, right?
Tate is a threat to society.
Question mark.
And I'm going to read all the things that you said, I want the audience to hear it.
Some of it is uncomfortable probably for you to hear.
Absolutely.
But I'm going to read it because I want the audience that maybe hasn't heard all of
it.
But to me, when you say threat to society as a father of four,
when I watch little naxics making out with a devil
on a performance and you're saying that's creative,
then you really do want to hurt the family nucleus
if you're okay with that.
If a Cardi D gets up there and says,
who cares about your body count?
You know, don't make your money.
If you got to make your money, and other girls are like, man, if you're stripped, we're here to buy a credit card. I'm like, don't make your money. If you got to make your money,
and other girls are like,
man, if you're stripped,
we're here to buy my credit card.
I'm like, go get your back, girl.
You know, or OG Simpson, who did what he did,
and he's on Twitter, given fantasy football,
or Kamenei, or Putin, or all these guys,
who are out there, given their commentary.
You're worried about this guy,
because he's a womanizer,
because he's got now,
a complete different conversation to have
but I want to read this. I want to read this and if you allow me to just go through some
of them, let me just say him, it's only a few of them and then we'll wrap up and go to
you. No problem. So how are women allowed to drive? Okay, fine. I asked the question the
other day, we're having this debate. I think we were in Kabul. I said, who's the better
driver, men or women? And so, well, women get into fewer accidents, but the data doesn't
tell the truth. Who drives more miles in their lifetime. And then we
eventually have to two hours of debate, you know, you see where you're going with that.
I like Eastern Europe as a whole because corruption is far more accessible. Okay. I can't
see why that's going to cause a red flag. You can't be responsible for something that
doesn't listen to you. You can't be responsible for dog if it doesn't obey you, a child, or
a woman. Okay. That's going to piss off women. Men who constantly give into mental health problems can't
compete with other men who don't, I'm depressed. I can't go to the gym. You said, that's why
you got to go to the gym so you're not depressed. Read the Bible. Every single man had multiple
wives. Not a single woman had multiple husbands. It's against a will of God as disgusting.
Okay. He, a sexual harassment is a disgusting and inexcusable.
However, man looking at you and whistling at you
or asking your name isn't harassment,
woman having an exchange in sex for opportunity for a long time.
Some did this, worn of use.
If you put yourself in a position to be raped,
you must bear some responsibility.
That's gonna piss a lot of people off when he's say that.
Completely, I understand.
And I would actually, if we have time, I would like to explain all of these come all of these are what I'm done
You can rebuttal on because I mean every single one of them if you want to reach me
I'm on minnick minnick is a new app. It's fantastic. It allows me to interact directly with people
I get a lot of messages on email a lot of DMs and those kind of things
But the people who are serious so when I have serious conversations and grow from them
Whether it's a business opportunity or personal experience, et cetera, I'm on minnick, and
I can't wait to interact with the serious individuals of the world.
So I would like to.
Fantastic.
Why would you be with a woman who's not a virgin anyway?
She's a used good secondhand.
I mean, that's 99.9%.
Of course.
Read the Bible.
Every single man had multiple wives, not a single woman had multiple husbands.
It's against the will of God, it's disgusting.
Okay, it's easier to get off on rape charges on Romania.
Okay.
That was taken out completely out.
Of course it was.
You went a little bit deeper, but again,
you can give your position.
Yeah.
You know, anyways, there's a bunch of other things
that I can go on, that I can go through.
So I read those comments.
And here's what I'll say when I read those comments.
I have two sons, I have two daughters.
When I post stuff about you and they'll say, how dare you who's a father married with
four kids, you know, would you want a girl your daughter to go through this? And that's the first
of all. I get judged by how I might raise my kids for 18 years. You're your brother now has a
daughter. So you got our needs so your emotional attachment of your
Fear paranoia for having if somebody touches that girl. I know your wiring is you guys are gonna be in a complete different place
Absolutely and God's got a funny way of giving daughters to men that you know
But when you when you hear when you hear these things and people say well, dude
That's just not cool. You can't say that. We're about this. We're about that. We're about this.
What do you say to the people who hear this stuff?
And they say, dude, this guy's out of his mind.
I will tell them.
I will say that they are a product of the modern world
where sensationalism gets clicks, where nobody has an attention
span, and where they've taken long format content,
completely removed all context.
And they're now watching something
they don't completely understand, along with group think, along with group psychosis, along
with the idea that it's cool to, hey, entertain, they are now saying, I'm the worst man in
the world. I can explain each and every one of these sentences, and with explanation,
people will understand that they're not some evil psycho. There's endless videos on
TikTok of people going up to women on the street, what do you think of entertain? And
half of them actually say, we love entertain, I'd love to date a man like and rotate his kind of guy like the girls to say I hate him
I hate him they say why since he talks about about women and then they say what does he say bad?
Every single one of them go
Can't remember they were told to believe it. They're told to wear the mask
They don't even know their NPCs. You know what's unfortunate about the world?
What's NPCs. You know what's unfortunate about the world?
What's NPCs? NPCs like a video game. They're played a video game, a non-playable character.
We're like running around in an RPG and there's some character there who just repeats the same line
over and over again. They're NPCs. You know what's unfortunate about the way the world is?
Maths and statistics insist. There's no way this can be broken. Unfortunately, half of the population
are more stupid than average.
That's the truth. There are a bunch of dumb people out there who just literally repeat what they're told.
Tate's data are women. Tate's data are women. Why?
Don't know why. Well, why do I need to go watch all the videos and say, I'll just take your word for it.
Yeah, I can't even fucking know. If you don't mind, I'd like to go through each of these one by one.
If you're a mind me of the first one, I'll explain it.
So you have the CPR you're already addressed, drive, so corruption and Romanian.
So let's do one by one.
Go for it.
Corruption, go to corruption or a driving.
Corruption.
So let's talk about, I say, corruption's far more accessible in Eastern Europe.
The reason I said that is because firstly I live in Romania, which is a beautiful country,
full of beautiful people. I was living there and people often say me why do you live in a corrupt country and my argument was every country's corrupt
If you think America is not corrupt you are living at a bubble the world is corrupt England's corrupt
They're all corrupt the EU is corrupt Russia's corrupt every country's corrupt
I would rather live in a corrupt country considering that they're all corrupt
With corruption that's more accessible to myself
than in a country where they're gonna pretend
there's law and order, unless you reach a certain level,
and then you can access the corrupt.
It can be a very simple example.
If you are, let's say, the husband of a senator, for example,
and you do UI, let's just make this hypothetical.
This would never happen, but of course, yes, for sure.
This kind of stuff doesn't happen.
There's no way the country in the world, there's no way that
fathers of senators don't drink.
They don't just do you.
Let's imagine you did, right?
In America, you get off of this, got free.
But if you're a single mother or you're a single parent
and you're out there working a minimum wage job
and you're trying your very, very hardest
and you have kids to raise and you get a DUI, you're fucked.
Now, I think it's kind of unfair that the corruption
limit in a rich country, in this hypothetical super rich country, means that people at
the absolute elite can do whatever they want, and nobody else has access. I'll give you
another example. Let's imagine you're in Serbia, same scenario. You're a center's husband
and you get caught with DUI. Of course, nothing's going to happen to you. But you're a normal
person and you get caught with a DUI. Bro, I I'm how to hard day work. I know I'm over to the amount
Sorry, here's 50 bucks. I'm sorry. I'm just in dry straight. All right cool. Go home. Bam accessible corruption
To me that's a more of a peeling environment to live under than an under a society where they're gonna take a normal person
Wreck them under the law throw their ass and jail and fucking destroy them and sit there and cry about law and order law and order
Law and order when it's all bullshit anyway. There is no law and order the threshold for corruption is too high
So for me as a person who said I'm a chess player if I'm a chess player and I analyze the chess board
I have geographical freedom. I have financial freedom. I'm gonna live in a society. Why don't I live in a society?
Why have the most possible moves to make on a chess board?
Where would I go? I'd go somewhere where my money can benefit me. I don't have billions. I'm not a center of sun
But I have enough to live in some other countries and be protected in some regards. That's just an intelligent chess move
I explain this at length in a video
All that context all removed better than that. I'll talk about speeding times
They take it they take the misogyny thing,
they talk, take something about rape,
which is imaginary, because I've built criminal charges
against females and get anything in my life ever.
They put it together, they take in the corruption
from Romania, they throw that in, they whip it up,
and they throw it out to the world.
And it's bullshit, it's absolute bullshit.
What's the next one?
I said, women can't drive.
So let's stay on that one
We're sure I mean I I can't understand how that's gonna
piss off certain people when you're explaining corruption and law and order because where does jealousy and envy come from if you think about it
jealousy and envy comes from what?
Sometimes it comes usually it comes from people that no matter what they do they can never be taped
Yeah, they can never be taped.
Yeah.
They can never ever.
Like we were talking to Grand Stepan and Hita, he says, what do you think about tape?
What do you think about everybody that's going to try to do is affiliate marketing?
I said, go ahead and do it.
I said, he's not duplicatable.
Yeah.
So non-duplicable people like you are annoying to people that are, I don't know if you're
someone I'm saying.
Correct.
They can't sit there and say, no matter how many motivational books they read, no matter
how many videos of you they watch, they cannot talk like you and tell the story.
That produces envy and jealousy.
And you can see how someone like this can be taken out of context saying he must be criminal
for wanting to go to a place that doesn't have law in order.
Absolutely.
And I understand why they would say that.
Now what's actually interesting is Booker asked asks the capital of Romania, where I live,
is statistically 25 times safer than a city like London.
Why did a dangerous place?
It's the most Christian country on earth,
99.3% Christian in the last census.
This church is everywhere, it's highly religious.
It's a very nice place.
It's just a different economic bracket.
It's nothing to do about Romania specifically.
You go to any second world country in the world
with a different economic bracket. The corruption is gonna be more Romania specifically. You go to any second world country in the world with a different economic bracket,
the corruption is gonna be more accessible.
The price is lower.
Humans are corrupt.
Every single institution on the face of the planet
that is run by humans, which is currently all of them
at some degree is corrupt.
All of them, whether it's doctors, financial,
judicial, law and order, the monetary system,
it's all completely and artly corrupt.
And to sit here and believe that any of them are just
and fair, I think we've just learned
the last few years so we can see that even simple things
like keeping people alive, even medicine is completely
corrupt from heads to toe, all of it is.
So you have to understand that,
and then you have to look at the chessboard and go,
okay, if it's all completely and utterly corrupt,
and I understand that there are certain people
who get to play the game on cheat mode.
Do I wanna be able to play the game on cheat mode
if I'm gonna try and be the best version of myself?
Well, yes, I could possibly do that in Nigeria.
I could play on cheat mode.
I could possibly play on cheat mode in Croatia.
I could possibly play on cheat mode here.
Here, I have to stick to the rules.
If I have to obey the rules of chess against a person
who can move their pieces however they want,
I'm going to be perpetually crushed for attorney.
So it makes smart, that's just smart business sense to me.
To sit there and go, you know what?
Fuck it.
Let's change the board. Let's move it out. Let's reset up the pieces and let's play this way
And this is nothing specific with the country I live
I've absolutely respect for the country I live
This is just human nature. It's the nature of systems and how they work and the nature of the first world's second world third world
This is just how the world works
So I say these things and people want to sit here and try and and they mix it up
They take that and they try and mix it up with some girl shit and try and pretend I'm not talking about basic things like speeding box. That's really what I'm talking about and we can have a long detailed argument about how corrupt America is by
I like to think most people the braid understand it the kind of shit that's going down America. So America's absolutely corrupt as well. It's just a corrupt world.
That's huge.
That's how you lived in the States.
I left when I was a child.
So you've been living in the States in never decades.
Wow.
But you go back quite frequently.
That might come to an end.
That might come to an end.
Maybe my end.
How do you mind?
But you use an analogy to kind of set you up for this,
use an analogy with pomp, whatever you did that interview.
You said, listen, if you two basketball teams,
you play a pick up game for $10,000.
No referees, no judges, no nothing, just go for it guys.
Do you think there'd be any cheating going on?
Fuck yeah, of course.
So now what was the analogy that were the metaphor
that you made for government and systems?
So I say, yeah, so I say, if you accept
that in a basic pickup game of basketball for $10,000
without referees and judges,
humans are gonna naturally avert to cheating to make sure they win.
Do you think the people who are in charge of the world for the power and control
of the entire populace and all of his resources are not going to consider cheating
to win? You think it's not going to cross their mind?
Just go, you know what? Let's just change this.
I was thinking you're going to sit there and believe no, it's fair.
Nothing is fair. It's nothing has ever been fair. I if you've lived a life of genuine hardship
The first thing you will learn is that nothing is ever fair. I've never seen a fair fight on the street
I've never seen a fair relationship. I've never seen a fucking person loose his girlfriend or lose her husband fairly
I've never seen a fair incident on the fucking road with someone gets crushed by a truck
The world is a very unfair place.
And humans come along and we purport this idea, don't worry if word charts will make it fair.
It's bullshit. Nothing is ever, ever fair. And the human inclination is to win as it should be.
And the more powerful you are in the higher the stakes, the higher inclination to win as it should be.
This is human nature. You wouldn't be able to put yourself in a position of power if you thought in the other way.
So if you're going to sit there and accept the basis that we're going to cheat in a basic basketball game, that people cheat in football games,
cheat people cheat in poker, and people cheat in all this bullshit, and then say no,
but they're not going to cheat to control the world in your ass and I. It's all a fucking lie. It's all a
cheat. All of it. There's a part of it that that's so my I don't think, I mean tell me who actually
believes the government everything they do is right and there isn't corruption in government.
What percentage of the populace in any country believes that?
Well, that's got to be very small percentage of the...
I like the sides.
I think both people, I think whether side of the political area on you understand, you recognize
that...
Well, but you have selective hearing where you will typically only see the good on the side you support
and you will typically only see the bad on the side you don't support, but I don't know
anybody who doesn't believe there is a level of corruption going on in the government.
Well then you say that, but anyone who ever advocates for more government or more law,
whether they believe just corruption or otherwise are acting at birth to the truth, right? If you believe an institution is corrupt and then you say
I want them to have more power. Well, then what? So you have to look at the people who
are always advocating for more law. Those people who are advocating for more law are
strict controls. To a degree are on the side of a corrupt institution. And it's actually
very difficult because we need laws. Nobody wants to live in a failed state without law.
Of course, humans need laws completely. But, dying empires, this was said by somebody more intelligent than me
by a camera of their name, dying empires adopt laws like a sick man, adopt some medicine.
And you'll see by some of these countries in the world, especially the first world countries,
as things get harder and harder and harder, the government only has one answer to all problems.
Law. Energy crisis is at control. You do need law and order though.
You need law and order.
You need law.
Absolutely.
But I'm saying that you get to a point where you end up,
you wonder how you end up in a tyrannical society.
You wonder how you end up in a society
where it's so hard for the average person to survive
against the law itself.
Because when something bad happens
inside of a first world nation,
the first answer is just create more law.
Because energy crisis make more law. It's too much crime, make more law. too much crime make more law inflation make more law more law more law more law more law
Prick more laws print more laws print more laws you end up with a book of law like this.
And it can be thrown at anybody at any time and this is what's actually interesting about some societies in the world
I live in a country in Romania which is to pour one of the poorest countries in Europe.
It's a homogenous society but it's very poor the police drive that you as they can't go more than 65 miles an hour underfunded police force.
There's no crime.
There's not this big huge book of law.
It's just don't kill anybody, don't be an idiot.
And just live your life pretty normal.
And it's like that in many places in the world.
But in other societies and other empires,
they're like, no, we need a law for everything,
a law about how you use your telephone, a law about
how you listen to the radio, a law about how you do
bank transfer, a law about this, a law, a law, law, law, law, law, law, law,
and to a degree, it ends up sooner or on a long enough time frame if you're going to make
new laws every single day into attorney, where are you going to end up?
Is that just because Romania just trusts Judeo-Christian values and that's just sort of how they
abide?
It's, I'd like to think it's that innocent, but I think a law of it is also down to enforcement.
I don't think they have the mechanisms to enforce the law, so they don't pass them.
Whereas in other nations, they have the mechanism to enforce the law, so they pass them.
But my point is, if I lived in a nation where they're printing 5,000 new laws a week, I
know that's going to end up in tyranny.
Regarding sooner or later, if you're going to make new laws every fucking day, sooner
or later, it's going to be a possible thing to go outside my house.
But that's it.
And you end up in a society where that actually literally came true in certain states in America. You couldn't leave your fucking house. That's
what happens. And it's a sad state of the world. I'm not pessimistic in any regard. I'm just
trying to analyze the chessboard and be as perspicacious as possible and set myself up at a position
where I feel like I can live a life true to myself and true to God and be free and enjoy the
freedom of my family and just do what I want to do without hurting anybody. That's all I'm trying to do.
Well, let me ask you. you think maybe from your perspective,
you have a blind spot.
And I'd love for you to push back on this one.
The blind spot is, the only life you've ever lived
is the life of an alpha raised by an alpha who
raised two boys who are alphas
Who the way you describe your father was a guy that pushed you guys challenge you guys
He brought you guys together to back each other up and all you know is I can fight I can play chess I can now thank you. I can get out of things. I have the gift of gap. I can talk I can do so
That's the only length lens you have you know, if we were living in times, biblical times,
a guy like you would probably end up being the emperor,
a guy like you who can do all of those things,
you're probably gonna make it to the top.
But they created laws and orders for guys like you
to not bully the little guy, to protect the little guy.
That's what they came up with,
the gum to call it, the great equalizer,
where naturally, you're supposed to gravity to the top.
Naturally.
Great.
Because of all those things you bring to the table.
People want a guy like like even in New York many times, Brownsville, they wanted some
of them out there because the mob prevented girls from being taken advantage of.
Absolutely.
But they still broke the law.
So they were still that element of, so do you think a part of it where for you, yes,
I can a person may say, I can see why
it takes once to be in a place where there's less fewer lawn order versus in a place where
there's high lawn order because it doesn't really defend it, doesn't protect them.
That's a really good point of view and it actually ties in very interesting to another
point I want to make, where there's a correlation between people who are free thinkers and people
who have opinions which differ from the norm and their test austral levels. I don't even have seen this. But the higher your test austral level the more likely
you are to stand up and say something that the group doesn't agree with. The basic premise behind
it, biologically, is you're more prepared to defend your idea. If you stand up against five men
and say you're wrong, I believe this. At some point, in especially in history, that can become violent.
So if you don't have the capability or at least the bravery to stand up and face the possibility
of violence, you're more likely to just comply with the group thing.
So they've done a whole bunch of studies at proves somebody who is combative, not in a negative
way, but combative as a whole in regards to not physically afraid of having a confrontation
let's say, is more likely to have an independent idea as opposed to somebody who is to complete
opposite.
They're just pure group think because fish, fish, slim in schools, right?
That's how they protect themselves.
So it's an interesting point you have there.
And also that can be extrapolated if you look at the political parties of the world or you
look at the different ideas, etc.
You can usually look at someone and kind of see their politics.
Sometimes you can look at him and go, yeah, yeah, I get it, right?
So there's a lot of biology is a huge part to play with it.
And yeah, I agree with you.
And you're totally right. My view, like everywhere other persons view on earth is biased.
And I have a huge degree of individualism
and a large degree of I can fix this myself
or I'll be okay by myself.
And that's how I was raised.
And that's also my genetic makeup.
And you're right, I completely agree with you
and I understand that.
And that's why each to their own.
I'm not saying everybody should decide
to go move to Serbia,
because you're right, there's monsters in Serbia,
that'll take advantage of a whole bunch of people,
completely, but for myself,
and my own personal chess board,
that's how I set up life.
And that's why the students who follow me
and the kids I talk to, I say, listen,
life is extremely difficult as a man.
It's very fucking hard.
There is no way I can tell you to win
unless you're a top-tier man.
I can't sit here and give you a cheat code
that allows you to stay a loser and win.
I can only tell you what I've done.
I became extremely wealthy.
I became extremely capable.
I became extremely smart.
I developed a vast network of individuals
and nobody wants to mess with.
And I set up a life that makes me difficult to damage.
That's what I did.
You're saying how can I comply, comply, comply, comply, comply, and stay weak and save stupid
and be safe from tyranny.
And I say to you, you can't do that.
That's why I teach the tenants I teach.
And that's also why I think they find me so threatening because I'm teaching people to do
exactly that.
I say, listen, there's no strength of mind or strength of opinion without strength of
body.
First you need to do is go trade.
Don't care what you think.
Don't care what you think.
Too small.
First you need to do is go trade. This number one. you think. Don't care what you think. Too small.
First you need to do is go trade.
This number one.
Did you think two plus two is four?
And I think two plus two is five.
And we're going to argue this to the end.
It's going to be five.
So can you make a new something?
Newspice.
Don't do five now.
It's a reality.
That's the reality of Earth, right?
And I teach kids this reality.
I teach men this reality.
And by even doing basic things like teaching young men to go and strong, be strong physically, which is, we, I like
to think we live in a world where that's all seen as a good thing.
There are people in the world who sit and go, wait, wait, wait, making them physically
stronger is going to affect our ability to change their area, even their minds in real
time with our matrix programming.
That is negative.
Do you think there's wisdom in not saying everything you're thinking about?
So for example, you know,
Logan's gonna have a big follow and that's gonna say, well, he's wiser than you take, you know,
because look at you now, you got Ben and he's not, you know, you're smart, he's wise, he knew what
his limits are because he knows at what levels somebody is above him and he knows how to handle that
versus you, you know know you can control your
thoughts and you say whatever that's on your mind that's what got you in trouble hence Logan is
wiser than Tate. Interesting point and I would actually agree with that point because as much as
people think I'm speaking my mind trust me is 20% of the things I think there are limits to the world
and there's times to say I'm just time's not to say however I feel a duty that Logan doesn't feel
and the duties to my children's children and I believe certain things need to be said and
it goes beyond just try to keep my YouTube channel. I have a duty, I have a sense of duty
which is he doesn't feel. He doesn't care. He will say anything that said and you allow
anyone to get banned, he doesn't even fuck as long as he gets to continue on his channel.
Please don't delete my channel. I need to be a clown on this channel. That's all he cares
about. I care about the world as a whole. I don't give a fuck. I don't care if they delete me for everywhere
I don't care if I go missing from all of social media forever. I don't care. I have money. I'm fine
I'll go to the mountains. I take my car. I'll chill. I have a good life. It doesn't matter to me, right?
We have different objectives. So yeah, if my objective was primarily number one concern keep you to that of course
I talk differently, but that was never my objective. So people will argue is smart.
I would just argue is far less important intentions.
And I'll argue that he has less moral character
and he's quicker to sell.
A lot of the things I say, I'll also be honest,
a lot of things I say, I really don't think
were bannable offenses.
I just think I said things that got so popular.
I don't think it's the things I said.
I think it's how many times they were listened to.
And that long list of things I said, there's one more there.
I'd actually like to really disparage because it's the one that annoys me the most.
Where it says, I say that women should bear some responsibility for being raped.
I'd like to take this time and explain what I was saying in long format video, which has
been completely misconstrued.
I was talking about a girl.
I was talking, I have an argument with a feminist.
And she was saying that we need to teach men not to rape and I said my dear
I love how idealistic you are, but I am realistic men are already taught not to read she's like no they need to we need to go to change language at school and
rewrite history and do all the shit they're trying to do to make men weak because they think that weak men don't break
Which is another argument I want to come back to because weak men are the most dangerous men on the planet.
Let's talk about that later.
But I said no.
People already understand that rape is wrong.
Unfortunately, human nature, some people don't care about doing wrong things.
We should teach people not to steal, but they still steal.
Would you agree that everyone says don't steal?
The Bible says don't steal.
The Quran says don't steal.
Schools say don't steal.
Everyone says don't steal.
People still steal.
So if I were to take a million dollars in cash and
Walk down the street at night in the worst part of town holding it to a degree
I would have some responsibility when I got robbed the police would come and say why did you do that people would say Andrew
Why did you do that? You have to protect yourself from things you can't just rely on the ideological hope the others other people in the
World are going to be perfect and infallible, or that the law is gonna prevent it.
You have to say no, I can't walk through the ghetto
at two in the morning with a million dollars in cash.
I take personal responsibility.
She agreed, I said then by extension,
would you agree that the smartest thing a woman can do
to prevent rape is not to sit here on a podcast
and try and change the way men think
and talk about your bullshit,
but to take some degree of personal responsibility
and not part of self-induced situations. I'm not saying that's take some degree of personal responsibility and not hurt yourself in dangerous situations.
I'm not saying that's going to prevent all rape.
I'm not saying that rape is okay.
Rape should be executed.
I'm not saying that every single woman who was ever assaulted could have prevented it.
I'm not saying any of that.
I'm saying the smartest single woman can do is say, this is dangerous.
Going home with this guy I just met is dangerous.
Walking through this area and by myself is dangerous.
Let me call a taxi.
Let me call my brother.
Let me go with my husband.
So isn't that a more intelligent way to teach women
to prevent themselves from being raped?
As opposed to telling them,
you can do whatever you want,
walk around the middle of the night naked,
it's no problem,
men shouldn't rape men of the problem.
I said, what you're trying to do is illogical.
What I'm trying to say will actually prevent rape.
So when you're telling girls,
do whatever you want, men of the problem,
you're convincing women to put themselves
in situations where bad things might happen to them.
Whereas I'm saying listen, women and men,
look after yourselves,
I'm a full grown man, four time kickboxing world champion.
There's places I don't go alone.
Like I came here with security.
That's called being an intelligent adult.
So this is what I was trying to say.
I was trying to say you need to women need
to protect themselves and bear some responsibility
to make sure they don't put themselves in situations where bad things can happen to them easily.
I'd like to think that's a pretty logical point.
No.
Andrew said rapes fine.
Andrew said his women's fault.
I didn't say that.
I really didn't say that.
It's completely insane.
If I speak to my brother's daughter, or when I have daughters on my own, and they say,
I'm concerned, how do I protect myself?
I'm not gonna say, don't worry,
here's how we're gonna protect you.
I'm gonna rewrite the mentality of every man on the planet,
so you can walk around naked at night.
I'm gonna say, listen, you don't go out at night,
you better get, I'll come pick you up,
who are you going with?
That's just intelligent, I don't think.
But they've taken it, misconstrued it,
taken it completely out context,
put on TikToks, purport it,
media machine picked it up, lied about me,
deleted me so I can't defend myself,
and now I'm dangerous to the world.
It's a fucking scam, it's all a scam.
And it's actually quite interesting
because the people who are close to me
have said to me in real time,
Andrew, you've impressed us as to how it goes.
The hit piece they've done on you
is unprecedented in the world.
And you see them unfazed.
It's like it's not matter of being unfazed.
It's slightly annoying.
It's a matter of just analyzing
what I can actually do about it.
But I think most people who have been through the shit
I've been through right now would be genuinely upset
and affected by it.
I don't give a fuck, right?
Because I've set my life up in a way that I know I'm okay.
But not many people can handle the entire world
saying you're a fucking rape apologist
and we're going to delete him from the entire world
and he's dangerous to women.
Not many people are going to want that to happen to them?
So what they've done is genuinely criminal,
because this is bullshit.
I was sticking up for women.
It gets feminist saying don't tell women to go out
and they're going to get hurt.
It's absolutely insane.
And like you correctly identified earlier,
if someone were to hurt a female member of my family,
it'd be the biggest mistake they ever fucking made.
Don't care about it.
You know, I'm the worst, I'm the worst enemy a man who hurts a woman could be.
The other point I made earlier, I don't want to talk too much, but we talk about weak men.
This is what's scariest about this entire agenda they're trying to report, because their
ideas, like the feminist idea, like the mainstream idea, like Logan Paul's ideas, all their
ideals, is that we weaken men, then if they become weak enough, they'll no longer be a threat.
And I argue that point absolutely.
I think the most dangerous men on earth are the weak men.
I think inside of every single man,
we're born with a fire inside of us that we do not control,
can destroy ourselves and other people.
And if you look at men who have no emotional control,
because that's what they're trying to teach us to have.
They're saying, listen, you're a man,
you're allowed to just cry all the time
and have no emotional control, no stoicism,
just be, can react to your emotions.
Do you know what happens when you tell men to just react to their emotions?
Anger.
You have school shootings, you have rape, you have violence.
That's what happens when you tell men to have no emotional control.
These school shooters are kids with no emotional control.
Rapists are men with no emotional control.
Violence in the bullsh**t you see on the street are men with no emotional control.
Telling men to not be stoic is going gonna create a breed of violent young men who have no emotional control can't control their emotions and act out on them
That is absolutely not be more dangerous to society than me come along saying listen
I don't give a fuck how you feel young man. Doesn't matter how you feel
You have do ease and your responsibilities as an adult and you must comply and act a certain way regardless of how you feel
That is better for society as a whole especially as as I'm only teaching the tenets of listen,
go to the gym anyway.
It doesn't matter, you don't feel like it, go anyway.
Listen, your girlfriend left you, your heart's broken,
you're not allowed to stalk her, she doesn't want you.
Get the fuck over it.
What I'm saying is good for the world.
They're saying, no, act out your emotions.
Cool, you're creating stalkers, rapists, and school shooters.
These people are fucking dangerous.
What we're constantly having this conversation
about being logical over us being emotional.
How many times does this team come up on our podcast?
Constantly.
And quite kindly, Andrew, I was more emotional
before I started hanging out with BVD three years ago.
But this is something you need to work on.
Yeah.
Sounds like you've been working on something like this
for decades, right?
But when you hear logic versus emotion,
logic versus emotion, where are you processing that?
Yeah, you know what he makes me think about,
is, and I got a question going back to Logan
versus yourself on the outcome,
on what were you solving for where he was wiser,
but what he may think about as a follower.
This is the question I think society asked themselves.
The government has to ask themselves,
you know, families have to ask themselves The government has to ask themselves,
families have to ask themselves, women have to ask themselves, men have to ask themselves,
Andrew Schoels, who is a ridiculously talented guy.
He's a comedian, right?
Yeah, no.
Fantastic comedian, right?
Great to have you.
Yeah, yeah.
So he says, he was saying that,
I don't know what I saw this video,
I think it was on a TikTok video or Instagram video.
Well, he said, in China, they allow videos to go viral, that's about education.
In America, they allow videos to go viral on TikTok of people acting a fool or dancing
or doing silly stuff because they're trying, this is their way of getting Americans to
be distracted to do silly stuff because that's how they're getting rewarded.
Try to fight in the end. silly stuff because that's how they're getting rewarded. Try to fight it.
No.
Let's say that's true.
Let's say his ideas, he doesn't know for fact that's true.
Let's say for fact that is true.
Let's play that.
Well then we have to ask a question.
Here's a question.
What content goes viral?
Okay, let's go through it.
Does porn go viral?
Boys watch a porn video, they say, bro, you to see this. Does does porn get a lot of eyeballs?
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. All right. What else goes viral nowadays? What else gets a lot of eyeballs nowadays?
So stupid dances stupid dance is Frank's super pranks. What else?
to the Franks, super pranks, what else? Franks, no, that's a call.
So you have to answer the question,
why is all of this content about
depensifying men going viral on platforms
that don't defend this argument, meaning,
Instagram doesn't defend what he stands for, okay?
TikTok doesn't support what he talks about, okay? YouTube doesn't defend and stand what he stands for. Okay, TikTok doesn't support what he talks about. Okay, YouTube doesn't defend
and stand what he stands for. The court foundation of those companies is very different than the
court foundation of what he has towards women because they're more feminists, they're more men are,
you know, the making men weak or all that stuff. But if these things are getting this many eyeballs,
maybe what it's saying is the market is sitting around saying,
dude, we've been waiting for this for a while now.
Like, you know, the market wants to kind of have somebody talk.
It doesn't mean it's true or not.
But hey, maybe it's what we're thinking about.
Maybe it's what a lot of people are thinking about.
And that makes some people uncomfortable to say,
no, no, like the other day, you know,
the one of my kids, they were watching a movie
without my permission, and there was a scene in it.
And my eight year old, my 10 year old,
we had to have the conversation about, you know,
Jay's, Lesbians, all this other stuff.
I kind of shared with you how I had the conversation with them.
When the moment I had this conversation,
Jim walked out, she's like, babe,
this is me, do you like that, these types of talks?
I don't wanna have these, I said.
You have two books, I sat down.
I sat down and I gave them every possible visual they could get.
So this is what's going on.
And in many cases, people who are not teaching this
because of father figures not in it,
we have to have this talk.
You know what's crazy?
As much as I did not wanna have that conversation at that point,
I loved the fact that I was forced to have it
because I'm able
to get ahead of it.
So I can control the point of contact and say, here's boys, what you're going to be facing.
A boy is going to come to you and tell you this.
This is going to be happening.
When it does, this is what we do as a David family.
So go back to you.
If the algorithms are favoring a person who data support his arguments because most of these
virtual governments are more feminist left, all that stuff, why do you think your messaging
got so viral?
Well, this is the interesting thing because I didn't put a magic spell on the world.
I'm not magician.
You're right.
There's obviously a market for what I say.
Every, people talk about how I became the most viral person on the planet.
I'll argue the point, not only that I've become the most viral person on the planet. I'll argue the point not only that I've become the most viral person on the planet.
I did it while being heavily shadowed man.
They, they've known about me for a while.
They've been trying to shut me up for a while.
I've been shadowed man forever.
So I became the most viral person on the planet with all the algorithms working against me.
Unlike people like Logan, well, the algorithms working for them against me,
because I'm resonating with people who are sitting there going, finally makes sense to me this is how I feel inside and this guy's finally
talking about everything else I consume is telling me to do things that just
don't resonate with my truth I'm only saying things that people agree with so to
chop my head off and try and delete me is acid-eyed in and of itself because
there are billions of people out there millions of people out there who feel the
exact same way.
This is what I was saying earlier because, and once again, I'm assuming the social media companies
have more have intellect and people who work for them who are intelligent.
If they were smart, if I was a social media company, I would have come to me and said,
listen, I would have had a board meeting and said, control opposition.
And I would have come to me and said, Andrea, you have to create your message.
You don't want to leave you, You don't want to be censored.
You have to say this, this way, this, this way,
that it, and slowly perhaps pay for me
down on certain subjects.
That would have been smart.
You think if they would have come to you and said,
let's leave and fall on your body.
And I was always like, and I would also talk to them
and say, listen, I understand I'm now the most
viral person on the planet.
I have to take responsibility for the things I say.
The way I say things for a video that gets 300 views is different than the way I say
things for a video that gets 3 million views.
I respect that.
Let's have a conversation.
I'm not a loose cannon, I'm a logical actor.
They could have done that, but they were emotional.
Instead, they martyred me and chopped my head off.
But that doesn't change anything.
Because there's millions and millions and millions of young men who think the same way I think.
There are millions of young men out there who don't want to wear makeup, who don't want to
put a Pokemon suit and be a clown like Logan Paul, who don't want to take transgender
blocking drugs, who don't want to assign themselves any kind of feminist ideas.
Who don't want to choke the dick off, who just want to grow up, go to the gym, get strong,
be respected, make money, have a beautiful girl on a sports car.
There's millions of men who want that.
And I speak to those men.
And they think, most men want that.
And they think, by chopping my head off, those men are going to want something else because they'll get rid of me and they'll. And I speak to those men. And they think, Most men want that. And they think by chopping my head off,
those men are going to want something else,
because they'll get rid of me and they'll put James Charles in front of them.
And say, no, foundation reviews.
It ain't going to work.
They don't want foundation reviews.
It's not what they want.
And it's truly crazy.
They think that's going to work in and of itself at all.
You know, things are going to work.
I think I've proven that it's not going to work.
What's actually the most upsetting is this.
I find it extremely hypocritical,
and of all the things in the world, my pet peeves,
the things that annoy me most are hypocrites,
I find it extremely hypocritical, but the system itself
pretends it gives a shit about men's mental health.
It will sit there and pretend it cares about all the men out there
who are depressed, struggling, sad.
But when I come along and tell them the only way I've ever found
personally to be happy and contented,
because I can only talk my personal story,
is to become a man of status, to become successful,
to go through pain, to use my trauma,
to use the bad things that happened to me,
to galvanize myself against attacks from the matrix,
as I've just proven I can easily weather.
When I talk about men's mental health,
they delete me. I thought you gave a shit about men's mental health, they delete me.
I thought you gave a shit about men's mental health.
I'm the most popular man on the planet,
and 90% of my content is like about women.
It's motivational and antidepressive.
And you're gonna see here and delete me
saying, I'm bad for women.
What about men?
I thought you gave a shit.
All of a sudden, you don't give a fuck anymore, right?
Just delete him.
Who cares?
I had a man message me, a man emailed me,
saying he was gonna kill himself.
I get about 10,000 emails a week. I don't answer all of them, but I
answer some of them. This guy, his email was so short that I believed it.
Subject was, I'm going to kill myself. And the thing is, I know you won't reply.
I'm going to kill myself. I don't know what that was email. And I sat there and
said, listen to my friend, I get a lot of emails. I don't know how serious you
are. I want you to make me a promise. I'm going to guess that you're not in the
best physical condition you could be in. I want you to make me a promise that you're
going to get six pack first and send me a picture of you with a six pack and if you still
feel like killing yourself after that, I don't know you, I can't tell you what to do, but
I want you to get six pack first. He emailed me back and started going back and forth
in September. I convinced him to get the gym and said, get six pack C.O.E. field. If you still feel like
killing yourself then I'm not telling you to kill yourself
and telling you that's what I would recommend.
Start training. By the time he started sending me
physique updates, them in a better condition, he started
sending me huge emails of apology and thank you saying
you saved my life. I can't believe I was thinking
of killing myself. You can't believe you changed.
If that man would have emailed Logan Paul with Logan Paul
of giving a fuck, would have ignored the guy.
You think he answers a single fucking email?
It doesn't give a shit.
All these fucking media figures,
all these people who are good for the system,
who are dancing on the devil and fucking sitting here
talking about dangerous rhetoric and all the other bullshit.
You think they'd fucking answer an email?
They don't give a solitary fuck about the young man
in the world.
They're left that man to die.
And even if they would reply to him,
what advice would they give?
Go take anti-depressants to watch my YouTube.
They have no value to give a guy, because they've never had a life of actual genuine struggle.
I'm out here genuinely saving lives.
Genuinely saying to men, the world you now live in is so competitive.
If you're not a competitive male, you're going to be perma depressed.
You don't have a mental disease.
You're just in a competitive environment and you are losing.
You need to become a competitive
person. There's no easy way. It's going to be hard. It's going to suck. But if you get to
talk, gee, the name, if you get there, it's a life worth living. That's what I'm saying.
And that millions of young men are going, wow, he's showing that you can be born from nothing,
single parent on a fucking council estate in the worst town in England, be stabbed, come
from nothing, and survive and end up with a multi-millionaire.
Maybe I can do it if I work hard and I'm diligent and I try hard, and I'm really giving hope
to the world, and then they delete me, then they put up a new thing about mental health
saying which bill they should take, and then they put James Charles of her and one of the
algorithms.
This shit's evil.
It's genuinely criminal. I have nothing but a positive front of the algorithm. This shit's evil. It's genuinely criminal.
I have nothing but a positive force for the world.
And this is what I was talking really about,
the hero's arc and the redemption
because I think that inside of human consciousness,
people are very, very familiar with the idea
of the arc of a villain turning into a hero.
It's in the Bible, it's in every superhero movie.
The guy starts off bad, he's crazy. He's too bad.
We don't want him. He's a maverick. He can't control them above.
Towards the end, you're like, where's that man at?
And it's gonna take a matter of time before people realize, you know what?
Tate was actually a good force for the youth. Perhaps he used to create his message.
Perhaps he used to take his newfound fame on board and change the way he says certain things.
Agreed. I'm not infallible as an individual.
But to sit here and say, I'm not unfalible as an individual.
But to sit here and say I'm dangerous
and I must be deleted is disservice
to all the men of the world.
And then they're just gonna start
pretty articles talking about mental health.
They don't give a fuck about men.
They don't give a shit about the 18 year old boy out there
who can't get a girlfriend is genuinely lonely.
And the fucking sports star's fucking them all.
I'm telling him what he has to do.
I'm saying listen bro, of course the sports star's
fucking them all, he's a G.
You ain't shit.
If you were a chick, would you choose you?
Cause I fucking wouldn't.
So whose fault is that?
The best thing about being a man,
the best thing about being a man
is you get to build your character from the ground up.
You're not born with any value.
You're born as a blank slate.
I decided I wanted to be a big towing kickboxing
boogat, you driving fucking bad,
but I did it all myself.
You get to choose you want to be a musician
and be sensitive and play guitar and get them out and be important that myself. You get to choose, you wanna be a musician, and be sensitive and play guitar,
and get them that and be important that way.
You get to choose, you wanna go get the cage,
you kick the fuck out of somebody,
you get to be choose to be anything you want.
Well, you have to go and do it.
It's gonna be difficult, it's competitive.
But that's the beauty of being a man, the blank slate.
And I inspire men to look at themselves
as a blank slate and go, you know what?
I ain't shit now, but I can become anything I want.
How could I possibly give up on myself?
And then they delete me.
And then they say, we care about mental health.
If they don't give a fuck, they're lying.
This is what they say that women are
and men must become completely true, right?
I mean, it's because a man, you talk about,
there's nothing worse of being born rich
and then just being rich.
The beauty is being fucking dirt poor and becoming rich.
At all three of us sitting here have dealt through that.
A man has to have tenacity and go through struggles
and days where you're like,
I can't fucking do this anymore,
but still pop your head up the next day.
I'm like, all right,
and then go back and get back in the gym.
I say tenacity.
I say this all the time.
I say the best things ever happens to me,
or the worst things ever happens.
All the trauma and bullshit I've been through in my life say the best things ever happens to me, all the worst things ever happens. All the trauma and bullshit I've been through in my life, all the best things
ever happens to me because as a man, if you've not had a difficult life, you cannot be good
at being a man. Being a good man and being good at being a man, they're too slightly
different things. But to be good at being a man, you need to be, have been through so much
shit that when the matrix deletes your entire life from the internet and starts lying about
you at mass and people start doing protests wanting you fucking home, and they're looking for your family members,
and reporters start calling every ex-girlfriend you ever had trying to convince them and
bribe them to lie to come out and say you're something you're not. When they're genuinely out
to put you in jail, that you can sit there and be focused and stoic and off to go, you know what?
Okay, what's the chess board? What's gonna happen? Who's trying to shoot me right now, nobody?
Okay, so it's better than it was a couple years ago.
Okay, so that's why I said, and plan through it, right?
You're never gonna be capable as a man
if you've not had trauma.
The best man ever have had trauma.
If you call a police officer, you need a brave police officer.
You ain't gonna be brave unless he's been through.
Yeah.
He's done any braveness of been through shit.
So we also as a society sit and look at men,
but we want, there's two kinds of societies,
the major society, but the true society,
true women with a brain actor,
I want a man who's strong, who's supportive,
who's intelligent, who's financially provides a center.
Then you're gonna want a man to some degree
who's been through some shit.
And a man who's internalized it and used it as a weapon.
And this is what I say to people,
people email me their long list of all the bad things
that happened to him and I reply reply fantastic. You are so lucky. You have all the building blocks to
become the exact kind of man you want to be. If none of this shit happened to you, when something
else bad happens to you later, you wouldn't be able to deal with it. Fantastic. He goes, no, but,
you know, this, this, you're plighting in with more excuses. I said, why are you making these
excuses? I just told you what happened to you is a good thing. You need to reframe your mind.
Bad things happen to Batman.
They killed his parents.
Do you understand?
That's why he's Batman.
You've just told me you have the building blocks
to become the most, you might become top G with our attire.
Fantastic.
What are you complaining about?
It was what do I do?
I said, you need to work.
Take all that trauma.
If you're truly heartbroken, my friend,
and we've all been there as men,
if you're truly heartbroken, you can't sleep.
That means you're going to get in fantastic shape.
You better hit the gym.
You have nothing else to do.
But stop watching YouTube.
Stop emailing me.
I want pictures of you in the gym.
Get the fucking work.
Heartbreak's a fantastic motorbayer,
as is depression, as is sadness.
Great.
Look at what's pissing you off and make sure it never happens again.
If you were jacked and rich as fuck,
she probably wouldn't have left your ass. So get your shit together, right?
So this is so important trauma such an important part being a man and and the matrix talks of trying to say that
Trauma is terrible and avoid trauma or if you get trauma take a pill and that's unrealistic
Trauma's gonna happen to you and you as a man need to internalize it accept it and weaponize it and become the best version of
Yourself you can be and that requires mental strength and stoicism.
It does not require, be more emotional.
If you're more emotional, you're gonna fall apart
when shit happens.
You're gonna end up like little bit of Paul
crying in your eyes on TV like a bitch.
I imagine there's a lot of men that hate you
because they have not done anything with their lives.
And you're basically saying,
clean it up buddy, get it together, hit the gym, make something in your life.
And they want to get rich quick,
they want the easy way out.
And they probably hate you more than feminists.
It's interesting.
The men who support me online have to shit together.
The men who hate me are fat.
The men who have done the take down videos of me
are objectively, objectively, unattractive individuals.
I'm not trying to be insulting.
Just objectively obese, unattractive individuals, right?
People who don't have their life together,
it's the same even more with women.
You can find 10 women who are sticking up
from me supporting me at all beauty queens.
And then you find some girl sitting there,
some troll sitting in the corner,
to Andrew's bad for women.
So there's a lot to be said there, right?
And hey, always come from below and never comes from above.
The people who have their lives together,
whether male or female love me,
the people who have failed,
and they know that the failures are their own fault,
and I show I'm a good mirror,
I reflect their own failures at them.
Oh yeah, of course they hate me.
And that's what's happened here.
What's most upsetting is as follows.
This whole idea of protecting women and misogyny
has been weaponized to attack someone they don't like.
These people saying that we need to get them down to these misogynists, they don't give a fuck about women.
These people, you think they care? There's some fat troll, there's some dude, Gold Dazz, who made a take-down video of me,
who just came out, came out, actually, on my last podcast, turns out he was talking to a 13-year-old girl.
So he's a fat pedophile. So there's a fat pedophile who did a video on YouTube about me saying that I'm dangerous for women
Got 10 million hits because he's objectively unattractive saying that he cares about women
But he's a pedophile himself. He doesn't care about women. He's jealous of me
He's jealous of who I am in my lifestyle
So he's found something he can use to weaponize if he can't make up that bullshit and attack me
How else can he attack me can't call me broke can't call me dumb can't call me stupid like well?
Can he call me well? He's better than me at everything
But if I take this and pretend to give a shit,
he doesn't give a fuck.
I build orphanages in Romania.
I have a cherry that restues stray dogs.
I take time out my life for playing the email,
saving people from suicide.
What the fuck does this guy do for anybody?
Nothing, but he's a good person,
because he gives a shit.
No, he's using it as a vehicle to attack somebody
who he knows is his superior
and every single human metric that can be measured
by modern science.
And he dislikes before it.
All of this is just weaponized care.
Oh, we, we care so much about,
they don't care about fucking anything,
they don't care about people.
They just dislike me.
And that's a very different thing.
It's all been false in the beginning.
I've seen through it all from the absolute beginning.
It's a matrix attack.
And like I said, I told you all happened.
YouTube strike, Meta, YouTube,
media, media, media, media, media, Uber, Gmail, Discord, Skype, Twitch, boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom, it's all a fucking coordinate and hit piece. It's bullshit.
You know, it's crazy. I'm listening to you and I'm saying, okay, so who does not want
to hear what you have to say? Most people don't want to hear what you have to say. Okay.
Now, why is most people not wanting to have hear what you have to say. Okay. Now why is most people not wanting to have here what
you have to say? When a kid is being raised, you got to get
cop in a bad cop, right? The in many instances, the father's
a bad cop, many instances in the family nucleus where mom and
that are together, the father plays the bad cop, the father comes
in, get your shit together, you ain't doing nothing, be a man,
go make money, get off your ass.
All you're doing is this, all you're doing is that,
and that's the message.
However, if the market is only filled with only one
or the two, it's not healthy.
Meaning, if it's only take given this message,
that's not healthy.
If it's only the mom saying, well, leave him alone Andrew,
you're being too tough on him.
You don't know what he's going through.
He's just a kid.
He's 12 years old.
Why are you being so tough on him?
And you, the father,
I'm trying to turn him into a man.
He needs to be a man.
You realize I've talked to the world,
but baby, he's just a kid, baby.
Leave him alone.
You don't know what happened with him last week.
So then you as the father goes to sleep and
You tell her you didn't hear anything. She said but you send her saying
Maybe she's got a point. Maybe she's got a point and then the morning go to the kid and say no matter how much
I talk and I challenge you guess what I love you. I believe in you
I think I'm gonna do something special with your life, but I want to see you be a leader, right? So the mark, the problem with the market
is they only want to give mommy's message, complete without that. He's message. This is
why I believe this message blew up because the market needs this as well because so what happens
when I listen to Andrew's message, you go, you'll say something. You know what? Like we met
a lady of yours, they introduced us yesterday,, say, this is my wife. And we met
right. And you said, I'm not in a phase where I want to have
thousand. If I wanted to, I could every night, I could have a
different girl, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all that stuff
you say. We say, for me, it's only five. Okay, five's the
magic number. And you say, five's the number. Okay. So you say
that. And is it satire? Is it real? Is it straight up? Or
you're just saying it because you still want
to poke a little bit? You still don't want to lose the ability to poke? Or is it that's
really what I do want to do? I do want to have five wives because there's a leak in that
argument as well. If you take that angle of saying I want to have five wives.
No, completely. And that's a good point. And that's an interesting one as well because
I had a conversation with,
with a journalist from the telegraph that came to my house and I had a long conversation with him which I'm about to raise. Before that, I just want to quickly say something that you reminded me of
earlier. I think that one of the main reasons people hate me is because my message is one of the
fact that I came from absolutely nothing. I never had a privilege up bringing you in a regard and I became exactly what I wanted to be. And if you subscribe to my
message and you're a fat unhappy man, then you know all of the failures are your
own. I'm a reflection. I am saying that if you understand how I think and my
world, you could have become anything you want to be. But you're unhappy with who
you are and that is your fault.
So the people who hate me sit there and go,
well, if he's right, then I fucked up.
If he's right, I could have been anyone I wanted to be,
and I fucked up, so he can't be right.
He has to be wrong, because this is not my fault.
This is the fault of whatever.
I had an unlucky upbringing or my girl left me
or that it's someone else's fault.
If I take responsibility, like, take, tells me
then I'm a fuck off.
So I have to hate take.
Take has to be wrong.
And that's why I do look at the general,
the composition of my haters.
I'm talking about their physical composition as people.
You're gonna just look at the people.
He likes take, he hates take.
He likes take, she likes take.
She wants to go on take, she can't stand his ass.
She like, it's very easy to sit.
Basically, you can just look at their faces.
And yep, yep, yep, yep, no, yep,
that you can see it, right?
Because it's all about personal responsibility,
which is why I teach.
And that's why a lot of people hate.
So that's the first thing I'm gonna talk about reflection.
But it's very interesting what you're saying
about the five wives saying.
Part of what I do when I talk,
especially about my personal life to a degree as subversion,
I learned this.
My father was a chess grandmaster, right?
And he, I used to travel around America with him, and he'd play chess.
And back then, there was a lot of former KGB guys who played chess in these massive tournaments.
And when they spoke, they were very subversive.
He'd introduced you to his girlfriend and she'd be his wife.
And then his other girlfriend, she's his wife. And then his friend is his daughter.
And then they just say things that aren't really true.
And the other thing they do is they're very, very emotive with their hands,
which is a habit that I kind of learned sometimes. So if, if they were sitting there
and an, an argument got kind of heated, they begin to move their hands along.
As they just, just a guard, listen to me, listen,
and then move their hands because then you can't see even a... so they start to move
their hands and you can use to it and then why? Right? So there's a few things I picked up for them,
but there's a degree of subversion. So if I sit and say I have five wives or ten wives or one
wife or no wife, I like that the matrix doesn't completely understand why I have. That's one of
the main reasons I do it. The second thing is this, I sat there with a reporter from the telegraph who said
that, why would you have five wives? If you cheat on them, they're unhappy. And I said
my friend, who are you to tell women how they feel and what decisions they want to make?
How insulting of you, how how show the mystic, are you to sit and say that women do have the independent thought to decide
I am prepared to share the top g because of his qualities and accolades and financial capability
as opposed to you to see her and say they're not allowed to think that they have to think what we believe they should think what the matrix tells them they should think
there are plenty of beautiful women out there who will say you know what a, a man like him, he might do this and that on the side,
but you know what, he's my man.
There's women who will think that.
They won't think it for a fucking loser,
but they'll certainly think out the top.
When Chris Brown walks in the club,
and all the girls start screaming,
do you think they're going, yes, he'll be loyal.
Fuck no, he's Chris Brown.
They don't give a shit because of his status.
Had a certain status of man, and I'm not saying that men should cheat, unless any shit because of his status. Had a certain status of man,
and I'm not saying that men should cheat,
I'm not saying these things,
I'm saying a certain status of man,
the idea of absolute exclusivity and absolute loyalty,
becomes less important to the female
because of his other accolades.
That's a fact.
Every king, every Sultan, read the Bible.
Every warlord had a bunch of women.
Why, it was the warlord.
The fucking shit mantra didn't, but the warlord did.
That's just the way the warlord always did.
It was always been distinction by the way.
It was just the top.
It's just the top.
I don't know if saying all men can do it,
but that's also my message.
I don't say to all men, have a bunch of girls.
I don't say that.
I say, you better become the fucking man.
All I can tell you is what it's like up here
and how I got here.
If you're telling me you're adamant on staying down there,
then don't cry that you're lonely
because I don't know that life
I can't tell you so once again
I took about five wise for us whatever etc. Oh these feminists who attack me saying he has he gets these women and he cheats on the
If a female decides you wants to be with me
Assuming that's what I even do. I could be Mr. Monogamous three-one fucking notes, right?
Assuming that's what I do. That's her imperative. She's an adult. She can sit there and go, okay, my man's the big boss,
and he's with me 99% of the time,
but I know he goes to Moscow on a business trip.
He's doing X, but he comes home to me,
and I'm dropping a Bentley, and I'm happy.
That's her imperative.
That's her prerogative.
It's only the feminists and the fucking people
who care so much about misogyny and love the women so much,
who come along and say, women are all allowed to think
for themselves, no, they're not allowed to accept that.
They can accept whatever they want.
Women are the gatekeepers.
It's a free market and women are the gatekeepers.
Women have all the choice.
If they want to get a guy who doesn't fuck nothing else,
they can go get some other guy.
Women have all the options in the world.
So if last week goes on my yacht in Croatia,
there's me, my brother and like 30 girls,
all the girls will get messages,
why are you there?
I want to be here. I want to be here.
I want to be here.
I'm not being here.
I want to confuse that against my will.
That's their decision to make.
How arrogant and narcissistic must you be as a random individual, especially a male, a
random unattractive male with no girlfriend?
To message an attractive woman and tell her that what she's doing, she thinks wrong for
being with me and my brother on a yacht and that she should instead want him playing video games at home.
What kind of level of delusion are you operating under to even believe that that's a paradigm
of reality.
And these are the people who dislike me who then get exposed to being pedophiles like
that's black.
So it's just absolutely insane.
I'm sorry to keep rambling but I want to talk about one more thing.
I'll talk about one more thing because it's really important.
They say I'm a threat to women, which is absolutely not the truth.
It couldn't be further from the truth.
And I want to say two things about that.
I can't think of another person who reached fame as meteorically as me, who never had
a single, I've yet have a single woman come out and accuse me of rape, sexual assault,
trying to get money from me?
None. I have a long and varied history with females, and not a single one, despite I now have hundreds of millions of dollars, has come forward, now that those things man the world, despite the
newspapers finding them online, finding x's I've been spoken to for years, calling them and
offering them 25 grand for a story, bribe, to turn on me, not one of them has decided to turn on me in life or money, not one.
And that could have very easily happened to me. We would have been a nail in one of the
coffins that that would have happened to me. Luckily, not if I did it because I'm a gentleman
and these women know that what's happening to me is bullshit. Not a single one has come forward
against me, but I'm somehow my threat to women I would argue that most men in my position have been a meteoric rise one of their stupid X's who go fuck this guy
Yeah, I'll take the money and start talking shit
I would argue that I happen to a lot of men never happened to me
It's the first thing the second thing I want to argue is when they send a threat to women if I have choice
Why would I be a threat?
The threat to women is demand with no access to women these people who want to do these videos
He's unattractive objectively unattractive,
unaccessible people who do take down videos of me who can't get a girlfriend, he's
the guy who's going to be a dangerous to women, he's to creep.
I have choices.
If a girl says to me, I don't like you, no problem.
Thank God, one less WhatsApp conversation.
Goodbye, have a nice life.
Nice to meet you.
It doesn't matter to me, right?
So the men who are successful with women are not the dangers,
it's the men who are unsuccessful with women
who are the dangers.
So once again, the whole paradigm is shift.
It's bullshit.
I've no reason to hurt a female,
or rape a female, or trick a female in any regard.
Why would I do that?
It's a basic economic, supply and demand.
Supply and demand.
If you're a high in demand and there's a tone of women there,
and one of the women leaves, you have unlimited supply.
So why am I a couple of men there, and one of the women leaves, you have unlimited supplies. So why am I a woman here?
What if a woman can't get any females
who he has no supply and he's in complete high demand
and the woman breaks his heart
or he can't even get a woman,
what kind of ramifications are gonna happen for him?
And this is the thing,
das black during the height of the takedown.
And it's actually also, it talks the group thing, right?
Because a lot of the people who did videos
to try and take me down did it for completely selfish reasons.
If you do, we have learned that the algorithm has now been programmed to reward you doing a negative video on tape.
If you do a negative video on tape, you get millions of views.
I want millions of views because I have a YouTube channel.
I get money, I get cloud.
Do I give a shit if it's true?
Do I give a shit about tape?
Do I give a shit about the ramifications in his life?
No, all these other people did it, so I'm going to do it.
So, we will start jumping on the bandwagon, right?
Tate, Tate's bad, Tate's bad, Tate's bad, for their own personal selfish views.
So a guy called Das Black did a video on me, about 10 million hits trying to say that I'm
a threat to him.
He's objectively out of track, he's an obese video game.
Did a video on me saying I'm a threat to him.
After that, women start coming forward saying, this guy has to spoke to a 13 year old girl,
here's the videos. This guy buys sexual things from an underage girl,
but it's all coming out by him being a beautiful now.
So he's sitting there as the criminal himself,
filled with hate and envy and innocent man,
plus cloud chasing, attacking me.
When, truthfully, who's turned out to be the threat to women?
How many women have come forward about me?
Zero.
How many women have come forward about him?
Two in count.
It's absolutely not only
crazy. And if these social media companies have any kind
of conscience and any kind of brain they should be
analyzing this in real time going we fucked up. We
fucked up here. And we'll see what happens in real time.
But it's very interesting. It's a very interesting. It's a
very interesting observation on the world. The people who
hate me most of the unsuccessful ones and it turns out
they're the ones with the skeletons in their closet.
The people who have their shit together, we're all fine, right?
Crazy, it's a crazy world.
You take, you're very persuasive though.
So you gotta know like, if I'm willing to bet on you getting out of any situation,
I'm willing to bet a lot of money.
You get your under arrest, you get to get out of it.
So your ability to persuade, so I can already imagine like, you know,
you know, sometimes go back to the time,
you're with a girl, you know,
you don't really know what you're doing yet.
You're kind of a rookie of a guy dating girls.
What things we said to have sex with a girl.
Just think about how creative we get
in that five minute moment.
What thing you've probably said?
What things we've said?
And then over time, over time you're like,
well that didn't work.
So I'm not gonna use that phrase again,
but this one definitely works.
And that approach definitely works.
So it's either guilt, but you don't know how much I love you.
You're not letting me show you a lot.
You know, you know, it's sometimes I'm a man.
It's natural, you know, as a man,
if I don't handle it myself, it's gotta be either you or it's gonna'm a man. It's natural, you know, as a man if I don't handle it myself
It's got to be either you or it's gonna be what dreaming. There's so many ways behind closed doors
So if they just got opposite as well, I can be like I don't really care. You can leave if you want
There's many there's many to take away model. There's many models that you learn so for you to say that to to a girl
I remember one time Jennifer and I my wife, you know
We're getting I'm one time Jennifer and I my wife, you know, we're getting close to
proposing and getting married. So I'm the Syrian, she's white, she's 80% British when
we did the ancestry, but she's from Texas. So she comes to the house, my dad's a, my
here's who my dad is, my dad will not drink at a the same glasses as me. Okay, I'm at
son. He will not. My dad, if he goes to someone else's house,
he won't eat their food. Yeah, because he watches how you wash your hands. If he's sitting in the kitchen,
he will tell me in a series and he'll say, did you watch that? I said, what? I said, I can't eat
her food. Why? It's been 10 minutes she hasn't washed her hands a single time. I can't eat her food.
And he won't eat their food. He says, I'm already's how my dad is right so anyways one uh I'm bringing Jen home my dad
loves Jen and I said Jen I think my dad and I have to have a serious
conversation with you because you have to be ready for this she says what's that I
said do you know what it is to marry in a Syrian she says no I said there's
American laws this there's a Syrian laws and I my dad and I want to share this
with you and my dad is fully want to share this with you.
And my dad is fully confused like what I'm saying.
Like where I'm going with this.
I said, when you marry an Assyrian,
I'm allowed to have multiple wives.
Because by our church, I can have multiple wives.
And for about 30 seconds, my dad's confused.
Like, what the hell are you talking about?
But I'm looking at my wife, not the time girlfriend.
She's like, are you serious? I said, this is the first warriors ever were a series. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
With the first ever warriors 30 seconds into my does. I don't subscribe to
it. I don't agree. I agree. When the wife Jennifer don't listen to him. He's full of shit.
Right. He says it's kind of stuff. Now, say my dad says, yeah, you should.
Just think about let's flip it.
So my dad says, yeah, he's a man.
If he gives you money, he gives you house, he should do that.
Then I'm kind of going to be like, yeah, what's wrong if I do that?
So I think a lot of it is also on our ability to persuade.
And we can go here.
And then sometimes we test the limit and say, I can go here.
Once you get your
friend in. You know, I like you, but you know, if you want to, I mean, you have some fantasies. I
don't know what you're from, but if you want to fulfill your fantasies, it's not like I want to
hook up with your friend, but you can bring your friend and then these words that we use, right? So
persuasive wise, your attempt, you can get anything you want when you have those conversations,
but here's the other part I want to bring to you. Okay, writing all these things down.
Yeah.
You like to instigate.
You like to poke.
Now, let me say it and then you unpack it.
Meaning, I think a great,
Dana White knows how to instigate.
It's a very, by the way, it's a very valuable talent
that only a few people have.
Dana White likes to instigate.
Phil Jackson,
he instigated a lot of shit between Shack and Kobe, right? Some may even say the friction between
Shack and Kobe is on Phil Jackson, you know, but there's an art to it. So a little bit of what you
do is I kind of look at you and I say, here's how Tate is. If somebody says, well you're wrong in this
area instead of Tate saying, let me explain myself,
people go and push more because he found an opportunity.
You know, he's like, let me poke here a little bit more
because it's annoying you.
So do you think you have a little bit of that
when you see somebody, maybe half the time,
like when you said, I got five wives,
I don't even know if I'm convinced you want to have five wives.
I just think you say it because you're pissing off
the right people.
And that's a very astute observation
that you are correct.
Anybody you can emotionally control?
Anybody you can emotionally affect?
You have them in your pocket, right?
To one degree or another.
Are you going to emotionally control somebody?
I'll tell you who's excellent at this.
Women.
Women are fantastic at this.
If a woman realizes she can piss you off with X thing,
she'll notice it, but you'll keep it in her pocket.
You know what?
That noise in.
Cool.
Sorry, baby.
Sorry.
Three weeks later, two months later, they realized when you're vulnerable, I can tell you this.
I could tell you the experience from fighting when I was fighting.
I was a kickboxing world champion, right?
I never made millions from fighting.
Kickboxing is not that big of a sport.
Ten years ago, even UFC wasn't as big as it is now.
So, I was making money, but I mean,
I was probably fighting two or three times a year
and most of everybody was 150 grand of fight.
So I was kind of normal life.
And whichever girlfriend I had at the time,
no matter what, she always managed to start
some ass and eye and stupid immature fight with me,
like three days before a fight.
Because I'm weight drained, I have an eaten, I'm nervous,
I can't sleep, I've been
training for fucking ten weeks, this monster's from fucking Kazakhstan, some
psycho, I have to fly over to fucking fucking nose ware and tish-cac and bish-cac
to fight him, and now she's like, you know, I'm the toilet seat, I'm like the fucking toilet seat, I might die, he can kill me, but she knew that's when I was weak. She knew it. And that's when you can be a
little bit, but they detected it. This is when I can get it, right? Because the rest of the time,
I'm talking about the God damn toilet. Because if I say toilet seat any other time, his answer is go home
and just say, let's give you a go home then. Go toilet home. Bye. No, I don don't wanna go home. No, now I actually want you to go home. Please leave my house. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm fat, I'm fat. I'll sit there and just, yeah, but obviously, a lot of food needs cooking, so maybe she needs help.
I don't say shit.
Look at him.
But that's because they make it too easy.
Yeah.
But if you're gonna give, if you're playing chess
and you hang a piece, I'm gonna snap it up.
You're gonna leave your work, you're gonna leave your work
and you're right hanging.
Thank you very much, sir.
Bam, that's the game.
That's the game.
So yeah, you're gonna put me right.
I do instigate to a degree because they make it
so fucking easy to win.
It's so easy for me to win debates against people
because they get so pissed off on what I say.
Another thing, and I'll give the game away.
I'll give the game away to the entire YouTube world.
Why I've destroyed absolutely everybody
in any debate ever.
I say things that they know are true and that they agree with,
but I say it away, the anger's emotionally,
and they get caught up in their brain because they're saying, he's
saying the truth, but I'm pissed off by how he's saying it. So I want to argue with him,
but he's right. So instead of saying men are physically stronger than women, I'll
say females are weak. Do you know what, do you mean females are weak? Well, females are
weak, females are weak, men are strong, females are weak. No, but females, but I'm right,
and he knows I'm right, but he's mad now.
And so is she.
And they sit there and you'll happen to happen on day
four.
No, you end up having a whole group of people sitting there trying
to argue.
Well, some women are strong like men that trying to argue the fact
that women are as strong as men physically because I've
emotionally controlled them all and upset them all.
And then I do a podcast like it, millions and millions of views
and on the mid blacks against good debaters like Dave and on his little crew, and I've set them all. And then I do a podcast, and I get billions of millions of views and on the mid-bikes against good
debaters, like Dave and on his little crew,
and I just emotionally controlling them.
It's an emotional game.
I reckon, I've never given this game away before anyway.
But this is what I do.
I sit there and I say something you may know is true
in a way they can't agree with it,
and I fucking control them all.
Because they're stupid.
If I was me, I'd be like, yeah, I'll count.
I perhaps I don't like the way you phrased it,
but you're very true.
That takes intellect. People are emotional. So this is why I wreck all of them. And you're right, I'd be like, yeah, okay, I perhaps don't like the way you phrased it, but you're very true. That takes intellect.
People are emotional.
So this is why I wreck all of them.
And you're right.
I poke them on purpose.
And it makes it very difficult to argue with me, especially if they agree with what I'm
saying, but they don't like the way it's being said.
That's where you feel see the full breakdowns, the full mental breakdowns.
And it goes to emotion.
Before I came to value team, and this is three years ago, Pat said, I want you to read a book
because it's called Meditations by Marcus Aurelius, Stoicism.
You've referenced Stoicism multiple times, not getting an emotional, thinking rational.
This was a book that you've subscribed to for years.
What is it about Stoicism and not getting caught up in emotions and even triggering emotions
that resonates with you?
Well, emotions are feedback.
The idea that men don't feel emotions is incorrect.
We feel emotions.
I would actually argue, we feel emotions
in certain, with certain emotions stronger than women.
I would argue that we feel park-rake stronger than women.
I would argue we feel anger,
like a woman could never understand.
I would argue we are extremely emotional.
Right.
Right, pure rage.
Well, it's feedback.
So when you get the feedback, it's all about how you internalize that and how you process it. emotional. Ray. Ray, pure rage. It's feedback.
So when you get the feedback, it's all about how you internalize it and how you process
it, right?
It's having stoicism's not feeling emotions.
It's feeling the emotion and going, okay, why is this happening?
How much does this really matter?
What's the most intelligent move on the chess board?
I'm not even that good at chess, right?
My father was a grandmaster.
I'm like 1800 euros.
I'm okay.
I was a child chess prodigy, but I stopped playing chess professionally when I was like, eight. So I'm okay. I was a child chess prodigy But I stopped playing chess professionally when I was like eight so I'm as good now as I was in fact
I'm worse now than when I was eight because I've never I've never taken any lessons or anything properly since because my mother and father broke up
We moved England my dad stayed in America lost my chess coach in England
Didn't have a chess infrastructure America had a chess infrastructure in the lower income schools my dad
Just to go to the ghetto schools because who he was black, go to the black schools
and teach him how to play chess.
So we had a big infrastructure.
So you peaked it eight.
I peaked it eight, yeah.
But um, chess is a fantastic game
because in the game of chess,
there's no longer,
if you lose,
no matter how well you play,
if you lose, at some point,
you made a mistake.
Even as the most minor mistake,
you made a mistake.
So you learn to understand that no matter what happens to you, if you lose a scenario, you made a mistake. It is the most minor mistake you made a mistake. So you learn to understand that no matter what happens to you, if you lose a scenario you made a mistake.
Maybe it's a tiny one, maybe it was two years ago, whatever, but you made a mistake and you learn
absolute and our accountability for yourself. At that mentality, it's extremely powerful to apply
to all things in life. The position I'm in now as the most hated man in the world, although I agree
and I truly believe it's unfair, I still take complete responsibility for it.
I'm not going to see her and say, I tell you why it happened when I talk about TikTok
and YouTube shorts, but I'm not going to blame them.
Absolutely.
They're a company making money and they're monetizing the best they can.
Fantastic.
All of this is my fault.
But the Bugatti on my drive is my fault.
And the yacht is my fault.
And the private jet's my fault.
So it's all my fault. So I take the good with the bad. I take all responsibility for absolutely
everything including if a woman leaves me, if a woman stays, if I end up heartbroken, if I end up
filled with rage, I take responsibility for that. Something happens to me that makes me in rage.
I will take responsibility. Why has this happened to me? Why do I feel this way? How did I end up in
this position? Is this healthy in this scenario? And sometimes it is. I've had scenarios in my life where I was compared to die to protect somebody else.
And I was enraged and it was healthy. I've also had time for I'm in a room by myself,
enraged, fit in there going, this is so good for anybody. I need to just call the fuck down.
So emotions are feedback, but stoicism is the ability to process them.
And that's what you need to be learned as a man.
You're never going to be able to turn them off.
You're going to feel them.
You have to learn how to learn how to process them
and turn them into a positive.
It's energy.
It's on them and energy.
I say this all the time.
I say that the biggest periods of transformation
in my life is when everything was going wrong.
When my life was going good, I'm not a hedonistic person. I don't do drugs, I don't gamble, I don't do prostitutes, I don't
do anything that had anistic, but I'll certainly go on the yacht with a bunch of
women I know and chill and have some vodka and everything. When life's smooth,
that's, then it's semi-head andistic pretty relaxed, but when I make my biggest
progress, when I really change who I am and change the world, that's when
everything's fucked. When things go wrong or I'm feeling things I am and change the world, that's when everything's fucked.
When things go wrong, or I'm feeling things
I don't want to feel, or bad things are happening,
that's when I'm like, okay, I concur, I currently can not sleep.
I've completed the day's tasks, I've tried to go to bed, I can't sleep.
Shborshit has to get done.
That's when the amazing things happen in my life.
When I was heartbroken, when I was whatever,
everyone's been heartbroken, I can't remember a specific example,
I hit the gym harder, right?
If something goes wrong with your pain and process,
that's when you get fucking invented,
that's business, right?
That's when you get inventive.
So all the bad things that happened to you as a man,
if you're stoic, you get to take unlimited energy.
Heartbreak is unlimited energy, so is depression,
so is rage, so is sadness, all these negative emotions,
they tell you to collapse behind.
It's like, people talk like, Bruce Lee says, be like water and people see that as be fluid
and just go with the flow.
I disagree.
If you're like water, you are, you're necessary for life.
You are scary when you're enraged.
You're powerful.
You're beautiful when you're calm.
You're so many things when you're like water, right?
So if I'm enraged, it's like water behind a dam.
You just gotta put the dam in place,
and you gotta get the turbo, the hydroelectric,
but in Don't Sonami, your life,
you can put the energy somewhere.
And this is the most beautiful thing about it
because people messaged me all the time
like, oh, I'll take you, don't know how sad I feel.
No, it's been correct.
I know exactly how sad people are.
Differences I used it.
And you're sitting, you're still crying, some random guy on email for the fucking third month in a row.
That's the difference between you and me, my friend.
I was becoming a rural champion kickboxer.
I got to a point and do it.
I, people all of the, all the time talking about depression
and saying, I don't understand it.
I will say, listen, there's been times in my life
where I was fully functional as an adult.
I would never label myself depressed
because I don't believe in the idea of labeling
myself in a negative because I don't believe in things that take power from me, which
we'll talk about in a second.
But there's been times in my life where I didn't give a f*** of a life I lived to die.
Sometimes in my life where I went to fight a man for money and I didn't give a sh** if
I lost it and even woke up again.
Didn't give a f***.
I had nothing worth living for.
I was broke, didn't have a girlfriend, didn't have any f***ing money.
Got two day call to fight some world champion.
I had to lose 10 kilos and two days,
had nothing else going for me.
Go on a plane to Dagestan and fucking won.
Other than the times I've done that.
By all conventional wisdom, I was depressed,
I was suicidal, but I was just like, no,
I don't give a shit.
And that's what I was at my most powerful.
Now I like it that call, I'm like, bro, I got a new car give a shit. And that's what I was at my most powerful. Now I get that call, I'm like, bro,
I got a new car outside and shit.
I'm not going to the dentist.
I'm going to a wedding.
I'm going to a wedding.
Sorry, how much money now?
But back then I was like, yeah, cool.
Who is he?
This guy, oh, I'm fine.
I didn't give a fuck.
I was most powerful when I was sad,
when I was depressed, when all these things.
And the difference is, was to framing. It was to when I was depressed when all these things and the differences was to framing
It was to framing other because that makes yeah, you know, you know, where you're taking to
You take me to
Tom Cruise would matlauer and there I don't know if you've seen this or not where Tom Cruise on matlauer
He's freaking out on the couch. Tom Cruise is a no no, that's that's that's a general
It's just Tom Cruise matlauer and
Tom Cruise is a no, no, that's that's that's a general. This is Tom Cruise Matt Lauer and, you know,
Tom is a Scientologist who does not believe in medication.
He does not believe in taking, you know,
anti-depressants, he doesn't believe in Ritalin,
he doesn't believe in any of that stuff.
I don't know where you stand with this medication stuff.
He's not for it.
And Matt Lauer's saying, what's wrong
if this helped that Brook Shields?
What's wrong with this helps?
I would say, you don't realize what this is doing?
This is ruining their lives.
This is not a help in them.
Do you realize how many different countries
this is illegal in?
Do you realize that Ritalin is only legal
in a couple different countries?
It's not many countries.
It's not a legal drug in other places.
It's legal and he's explaining this.
And believe it or not afterwards,
they pinned Tom Cruise to be a, you know, almost an asshole.
Like a misogynist like, of course.
What does it matter with the insensitive,
you're not passionate, you're not.
Somebody that cares about another person,
years later, Tom Cruise looks like the hero,
but in the heat of the moment,
he didn't come out really good, right?
So we're living in an era where you're right, a part of it, it's a, you're not feeling
that you depressed, take two of these, see what happens to you.
It's a hero's art, and this is the thing, this is why when I was saying when people say,
you don't know, you don't know how it feels to be depressed.
I say, yes, I do.
The difference is how it's analyzed.
I always argue this two ways as well when depressed people come to me, because one of
my most famous things people attack me for is their little quote is they say, you said
the pressure isn't real what about the
men who kills themselves you don't care about mental health we've already
discussed how I care more about mental health and these people who fuck
pretending to be the first thing say I didn't say the question isn't real I said
feeling depressed is real but the idea that depression is going to strike you in
your mind and there's nothing you can do about it I think that is promoting
helplessness amongst depressed people a nice reason they kill themselves I don't think that is promoting helplessness amongst the pressed people, and that's the reason they killed themselves.
I don't think that making people helpless in an unfortunate
situation is too great to do.
You have to give people hope.
And I explain that when you believe in something
you give it power.
So I tried to say that when I felt at my lowest
and I achieved the most I've ever achieved in my life,
the reason I was capable of doing that is because I didn't
believe in the paradigm of being a depressed person.
I just believe that this is how I currently feel and fuck it.
I'm gonna do whatever it takes to get my life to be better.
And I gave a very simple example and analogy.
I said, if you take two people, one believes in ghosts and one doesn't.
You put them both in haunted houses.
And the middle of the night there's a bag.
The person who believes in ghosts is now terrified.
There's a ghost they're calling an exorcist
or panicking in the room, they're hiding.
The person who doesn't believe in ghosts
goes wind and goes back to sleep.
It's the same noise, it's the same scenario,
but it's the belief, that's both.
In their mind, that terror and ruins their life.
It's the belief in their mind that turns against them.
And I've said this many times,
I don't even give a shit about right and wrong.
You can tell me depressions, you can give a clue with every scientific proof in the world,
depression, but I refuse to believe in things that take my power away from you. I only
get to construct a mental model that allows me to be as powerful as possible. If believing in the
idea of depression is going to take my own power away, but I won't believe in it. I don't want
to believe in things that make me weak.
If you want to reach me, I'm on Minnick.
Minnick is a new app, it's fantastic.
It allows me to interact directly with people.
I get a lot of messages on email, a lot of DMs
and those kind of things, but the people who are serious,
so when I have serious conversations and grow from them,
whether it's a business opportunity
or personal experience, et cetera, I'm on Minnick
and I can't wait to interact with the serious individuals
in the world.
I believe in things that make me strong as someone goes,
who are you wrong?
Listen, let's assume, let's assume you're correct and that makes me wrong.
Let's say that you're right and you're depressed.
Why would I want to adopt the thinking of a man who is sad?
Why would I want to think like you?
Wouldn't it better to be wrong and be happy and have a sports car and a
private jet?
You want to talk about right? Look at your life
Why I don't talk about right and wrong. Let's talk about success and results
I don't believe in things that take power from me. I never have so when people email me and they start saying I'm depressed
I'm depressed and depressed and what's funny is this I
Talk to them and they desperately defend the idea of depression
I'm like my friend friend, you just told
me you're too depressed to be successful and depression is destroyed your life and you lost
your girl. I'm telling you that enemy, the enemy in your life isn't real and you're now sending
me 10 emails a week trying to convince me that your enemy is a real thing. Why are you sticking up
for your, this person, whatever it is, this idea of destroying you,
and you're putting your energy into defending it.
You should be on my team.
Who's team are you on here?
Do you wanna see your and convince me?
I'm never gonna believe you.
I'm never gonna adopt your thinking
because your life is about successful enough to emulate.
So why don't you try to adopt my way of thinking.
Stop defending this, and they're defending it
because it's a cure all excuse.
Depression or sadness is a cure all excuse. Depression or sadness is a
cure all excuse for men to use for failure. I have failed. This is why they say I don't believe
mental health or the man, the man who's depressed can't compete with the man who's not depressed.
This quote, I say listen, you get to roll out, be fat, be out of shape, be broke, be unimportant with
no girlfriend. And instead of the world thinking you're a loser, you get to say I'm not a loser,
I'm depressed. It's a shield. And I say that world thinking you're a loser, you get to say, I'm not a loser, I'm depressed.
It's a shield.
And I say, that's why you don't want to lose your shield.
Because now you have accountability,
now you have performance to call out.
Fuck it off.
I don't give a shit if it's real or not.
We're not about that.
We're talking about success here.
Get rid of your excuses, stop defending
anything that's ruined your life, and get to fucking work.
And every time anyone has ever listened to me in history,
ever, every single one of them's transformed their lives
and messaged me positive, messaged afterwards.
Every single fucking time.
That's why I'm anti-antidepressant.
Because that pill ain't gonna fix you the way
becoming the man you wish you were is gonna fix you.
It's great.
And then they're gonna take one little sound
by, take doesn't care about mental health,
these things to depress people,
it's a little bit of some bullshit.
And they're gonna apply it to me.
I really do believe.
And I state this almost with a degree of achievement.
I'm the most misunderstood on the planet.
I really believe I am.
It's crazy, the level therapy mother
who truly believe I am evil.
And I'm nothing close to it.
I'm one of the most compassionate people you can possibly meet.
Can I give you two takeaways?
Just for people that are like, oh, intro-tident.
Here's what I've heard from you so far.
Personal responsibility.
Straight up.
All right.
And the number two, positive affirmation.
I don't want negativity in my life.
I don't want depression around me.
I don't want weakness around me.
I want to be the best person I can be
and take full responsibility for that.
Right. Those are the two things I'm hearing. We'll go on further. I'll tell you a story which is going to make me sound a little bit extreme.
This is a story when I knocked out my friend. I was going to ask you this story if this is a true story.
It's a true story. Okay, about your boy that showed weakness. I got to hear this again.
Right? Another story? Jesus Christ. Right, so I don't like negativity in my space.
I create my reality extremely efficient.
So no matter what bad happens to me, even in the middle of this shit storm, when me, my
brother, my cousin, my team, we're sitting around, we're all smoking.
The whole news is saying, I'm the worst man in the world.
I've been deleted from everything.
They've frozen millions of dollars in bank accounts.
Right?
Me and my first one boys are just sitting there just laughing.
Right? We don't believe in negativity because it's infectious and it's sticky.
And even if someone's negative, even if you talk them out of it, it still stains the
air, right?
If you're in a trench and you're under fire, the least productive person is the person
who goes, they go too much artillery we're going to do it, shut the fuck up.
We all know, shut up.
That's not helping us, right?
It's very infectious.
So, and most people understand they say,
you are the sum of the five people you spend the most time with.
And why the fuck you spend time with negative people?
Or people who complain?
Or unhappy people?
Or unlucky people?
Or negative people?
Stop talking to them.
Everyone I talk to is like, yep, we are winners. All we do is
fucking win. Oh, the matrix attacks us. Oh, you think I need YouTube? You think I need YouTube? Get
fuck. That's who we are, right? So this was a, this was when I was young. I was about 23 years old.
I had a new girlfriend. Her name was Kerry. And her ex-boyfriend. I stole her from her ex-boyfriend.
And if you're a man, you understand that no woman's truly single.
You're always stealing her from some other guy
or where she still half talking to her.
Oh, bro, she's half talking to her ex
where she's dating 10 guys
or always out competing other men, right?
So stole her from some dude,
do got heart broke, had no emotional control
of the whole things we talked about.
I was at her house, my car was outside her house.
I was with my boy, Tony, my ex friend.
Me and Tony are in her house.
She's talking to her friend.
I'm talking with Carrie, we're all in front of Friday night.
Four cars pull up.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
These six guys get out with hammers.
Knock on the door, it's her ex boyfriend.
Carrie starts packing.
He's crazy, he's crazy.
It's like, listen, relax.
I go outside with Tony.
The six guys with hammers is me and Tony, right?
And they say he goes, bro, I don't even give
a fuck about Kerry. But you're going to say sorry to me. It's a sorry for what? Because
you stole my glory, you're going to say sorry. And then we'll just go away. So I'm not
going to lie to you, my friend. I'm not sorry for fucking anything. I'm not going to lie
to you. I'm sorry. And then my friend, Tony, next to me, and when I said that, I swear
to God, when I said that, in real time, because I don't take my eyes off the enemy,
right, the six of them, but they're all facing me directly.
So I was looking in their eyes directly.
When I said that, I saw all of their eyes go shit.
You ain't gonna say sorry, so now we have to actually
attack them with hammers.
Do we actually wanna attack him?
At the time, I was like, I was British kickboxing champion,
I was known in my town, they knew it was gonna be messy, right?
And I always had one hand behind my back as well,
I had nothing in it.
Just, I had nothing in it.
Who knows what's back there?
I was like, we had to do something, right?
So they're looking at me and they're like,
fuck sake, don't eat this, sorry,
and he didn't.
Now what do we do?
And Tony pipes up, fucking dickhead Tony.
Hey man, why don do you just say sorry?
And as he said that I saw all of their faces almost lit up
Because he in spot the other team showed weakness inspired weakness on our side and from from complete
Compitulation they were now brave again
Because Tony ran his mouth. I swear on my father's grave. I'm standing there.
Tony said that.
I turned on fucking smack.
If strangers mouth, nothing out cold.
Tony, don't, Tony, my own friend, my own teammate,
against the six, I knocked him out cold.
I don't need you now, Tony.
I said, fuck him and fuck you.
I'm in the house.
And I walked in the house.
And I saw him all standing around outside with hammers.
Look at Tony and sleep.
And go back in the car and he fucked up.
So you're gonna tell us a true story.
If you're a weak near me, if you're a weak near me,
you make me weak.
I refuse to accept it.
I give you a million stories of this.
Three, two years ago, maybe, we were in Munich.
They called the police on me for not wearing a mask.
It's a whole other story.
I told them to get fucked as well.
We're in Munich.
We wasn't wearing a mask, blah, blah.
We got drunk into Kappinsky.
We got really drunk, blah, blah.
I was drinking with some guys
that kind of knew.
In the morning, the police had come, they're threatened to arrest us all because we didn't
fuck and capitulate and we're eight masks, so Germans are weird.
So we got in our cars, got in our two rear two raris, got in the raris, we're heading
back to the book, we're drunk loads, we were really, really drunk.
We stopped at the gas station, we all got out of the car, one of the guys was like, bro,
I feel so sick, man, I feel sick. There's walking to the gas station.
I said, and I went up to my brother,
talked for a while, time to go.
And I had a pat on the back, said, bro,
if you're gonna keep walking like a fucking injured antelope,
you're gonna stay here.
We drunk booze.
We all feel like shit.
I'm not walking around earth with some dude.
I don't want you in my group.
I don't want you getting in my car.
I don't want you near me.
When I walk with my team, you look and go,
let's choose someone else.
Let's choose another group to pray on.
You are the weakness in this group.
I don't give a, yeah, you drunk whiskey.
Yeah, you feel shit.
If you can't turn it on for two minutes to go piss
and come back in the car, then get fuck.
I have serious conversation with the guy.
Tristan goes, you're so right.
What a fuck.
And there was no threats. There was no word of gas station.
But I just, I can't even look at it and near me. I can't just see people near me
being all, or crying, or sad, or whatever. You're allowed to feel sad.
Of course, your girl left you, your lost your job, you're allowed to feel sad. That's fine.
You feel sad. You feel sad right now? Good. Great. Sit the blues. Shut the fuck up.
Me and my brother have another quote. What do you want?
Therapy, that's our quote.
Let's say it all the time for anything.
Brother, I hang over.
Do you want therapy?
No, when I'm with the fuck up, shut the fuck up.
Shut the fuck up.
Why are you even saying,
how loud, why are you believing in it?
Why are you making it real?
We all feel like trash.
We drop to then balls of whiskey.
We all feel like trash.
But we're about, we're high net worth individuals
getting out of Fer our ease in a country
We don't have security nobody's walking fucking like we do
It's it's a reality you have to cure it create and and when you get your shit straight it affects your entire life
And I and man understand this they say I understand you're the sum of the five people you spend the most time with and why are you friends with all these fucking nobody's?
Why are you friends with these losers? Why are you doing it that? Then you're accepting what you're going to be. I love winners. I love winners. Show me a winner.
I love winners all day long, my friend. That's who I want to be friends with. Winners. That's
what I want to be friends with. I don't want to be friends with anybody else. I don't see the
advantage to it. And that's how I've always created my life. It has served me very, very well.
And I refuse to accept anything else because negative energy is extremely sticky. If you have friends who are talking negative shit,
try and fix them, it's your duty.
But if they're sticking to their negative, they're if
you don't have a responsibility to them to a degree
to sit there and allow them to poop your lines.
Because that's what they're gonna do.
You have to get to a point where it's like,
good-bye, friends, if you had to completely cut off.
I'm not saying knockout, like our friend Tony's
probably still sitting there in a ditch.
I'm going to just pull out. Tony's out probably still sitting there in a ditch. I'm watching this ball cap.
Tony's out there like Tony.
Tony, Tony, listen.
Had to happen.
You could have been spotted of them to rush me and kill me.
On a serious note, you could have been the inspiration for my death.
So it had to happen.
I hope your life's going well.
I'm sure someone's going as well as mine.
Sorry Tony.
That's how it goes my friend.
But how many other guys have you had to cut off?
You'd be surprised because there's so many because everyone likes to talk a good talk
and everyone likes to pretend they're x, y, z. And I'm quite a fair person, you know,
and I love the, like my biggest friends in the world today are friends so I had when I
would have had nothing and they came up with me.
Let's say when I had nothing, I had 10 friends. Now I'm at the top, I have four.
The six I had to drop just didn't level up with me. And there's when I had nothing I had 10 friends. Now I'm at the top I have four. The six I had to drop
just didn't level up with me. And there's only so long you can pay for them to go to the club,
pay for them to go on holiday, lend them a car. It's only so long until it's like, bro, everyone
else pulled this off. Everyone else, and I've offered you a job and now you're sick and you're tired.
You get to a point where it's just detrimental to your life and you have to be ruthless about it
because you have to create your realities. You don't know what to do it. You can't compromise your standards.
By the way, I'm listening to them and I'm just going back to stories myself because at
one point I went to a different direction than Tate did, but you cannot compromise your
standards for nobody.
Nobody that includes your spouse, your friends, your family, nobody.
There's a difference between loving somebody and compromising your standards.
Those are two different, I love a lot of people, but I'm not compromising my standards for
people I love.
You cannot be doing that because only you know how big your dreams are, only you know
what life you want to build and only you know who you want to be.
Compromising your standards for the biggest fatal mistakes
any man or human being can make.
You know what, you were telling a ghost story.
You took me to a place which is crazy.
We rented this castle called O'Heeke Castle in New York.
Funny story, you'll appreciate this.
So when we rent this place out, it's a beautiful property.
It's a $150 million property.
I rent out all the 32 rooms,
and it's got one of the best restaurants in town,
so we rented out.
Now, a couple of my guys who are very superstitious,
they say, Pat, I read articles, this place is haunted.
So one of the guys out of Handelho,
who's Mexican, you know how to handle
was Ricky's brother.
Ricky's brother, yeah.
He's very superstitious.
He says, hey, Pat, by the way, these brothers,
they're brothers.
Like if you meet them, they're like,
they can compete with the big brothers and them.
They're a big brother and a shit brother.
Yeah, now Alejandro, since they pat,
I'm here in this place, he's got ghosts.
I said it does.
He says, really?
So of course this place is haunted.
So now I'm playing with them because I'm trying to
suicide that night.
I said, whatever you do, you sleep tonight.
Be careful, because I hear they full notes and all this other stuff.
So I go tell Mario and the guys, it's a guys.
Tell me when Alejandro goes to sleep.
Alejandro goes to sleep.
I've taken notes and I write, right, right.
I'm watching you.
I had one o'clock in the morning.
I slide it because it's one of these old doors.
I slide it under his doors.
We go to the side and we hide.
We knock on the door.
He comes out. He says,
who's out there? Who's out there? It's medicin. Next morning, now we all go to
stay. We wake up first personized. So guys, you know, a lot of us, we talk a lot of different
things. I don't know. How was your night? This place is haunted. It's haunted. Anyways,
but going back to you, talking about Logan Paul and you.
And for you, you said, I don't give a shit about YouTube. You think YouTube is that important to me?
I don't care about being banned from you.
You're making this comment this argument, right?
Okay, fine.
And you said, we're solving for two different things.
Okay.
He's solving for one thing.
You're solving for another thing.
You know, you present yourself as a methodical person, as a person that's
very much about sequencing, as a person that it's about my next 5, 10, 15 moves, who's
a Logan trying to be in your POB, and who you're trying to be. Then I got a follow-up
question for you on that. That's a good question. I don't think the Logan is actually thinking
that far ahead. For him, it's more about preservation. He's been canceled once before he doesn't like it canceled again.
He wants to have viewers.
He wants to get a big YouTube channel.
He wants to sustain it.
He wants to continue to be an entertainer clown for as long as he possibly can.
I don't think he's thinking anything beyond that.
He wants money in his own pocket.
He doesn't care about the society as a whole.
He doesn't care about the ideas he's enforces.
He doesn't care about the people he watches.
Who watches him.
He doesn't care about their mentality.
He just cares. He's quite selfish.
I want my YouTube channel. I want my money. I'll say what I'm told to say, he's bought
and sold.
My intention is to truthfully, and I say this in a religious sense, but it's not a particular
religion, it's just a religious sense, I want to live true to God, and by living true
to God, it has to live true to my ideals, and what I believe is the best for the world,
and what I believe is best for men as a whole.
And I also want to try and create a world which reflects that.
And my intention is much beyond a YouTube channel.
I don't give a fuck if I lose a YouTube channel.
I don't care which platform I'm on.
I want to know what I'm saying is true to how I've lived.
And if people emulate it, they're going to genuinely
end up with a better life.
People, when I got banned, said, well, we don't want people to end up like,
take, and I said, why?
I have no criminal record, no criminal convictions.
Successful, hundreds of millions of dollars, dedicated.
Like, what would be so bad if men ended up
a version of me?
Like, what am I going to do to the world?
Like, so, and I also think this ties back
to something earlier you said about China.
Do you know what the most,
I don't even heard the statistic,
they asked Chinese children what they want to be
when they grow up?
And they asked Western American children
what it ought to be when they grow up.
The most popular answer in China was astronaut
and engineer.
The most popular answer in America, YouTube, too.
Doesn't that say so much about the mentality
of the youth, right? So I'm probably more on the engineer or perhaps philosopher at least, or at least
Braille. Like I'm trying to teach tenants that people replicate are going to be good for them as
a whole. China, we have engineer astronaut Logan entertainer. He doesn't care if he has to make
a fool of himself. He doesn't care if he's caught a stupid costume. He doesn't care if to be a clown. Anything to get because he's't care if he's a stupid costume, he doesn't care if he's a clown,
anything to get because he's selfish.
So I think that we're just, you're right,
we're solving for completely different things.
I know I'm a net positive to the world,
he's a very selfish individual,
and I think if people try and replicate me,
it's better for the world.
I think if people try and replicate Logan Paul,
well let me be a clown,
let me just try and make jokes and wear stupid suits.
Let me mock the dead and mock people who commit suicide
And then let me just say anything. I'm told to have a YouTube channel. I don't think that's good. I think that's actually detriment
So I see him as a detriment. I see me as a pulpit. Okay, so my follow-up here is the following
so
during COVID
Yeah
The first person that interviewed a doctor that got 20 million views that
The first person that interviewed a doctor that got 20 million views that got everybody thinking was Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan interviewed this one doctor. I don't know who it was. I don't know the guy.
Peter McCullough. No, no, no, no, no. This is phase one. No, this is March of 2020.
If you can pull it up, you'll see who it was. The interview this guy.
And he got, you know, Joe was saying, so listen, I'm being told if I go in the song, if I sit in the,
you know, steam room and I sweat it out and it says, nope, this is not that.
This is this.
And it wasn't a person that would have said it otherwise.
So people believed them said, okay, maybe this is something we have to pay close attention
to.
Anyways, during COVID, I believe Joe played a very important role.
Super important.
Super important.
Super, super necessary voice.
I was telling them we're to get us, I don't know if you realize this, you may be one of the most necessary voices in America on what you've been able to do.
So now Alex Jones will say to Joe and I've heard Alex say, you know, I know Joe believes this
stuff, but Joe knows how to maneuver around it. And he's just like learning how to maneuver.
And yeah, but I know he believes me, but he acts like he does a little But I don't know baby, so you know, you know, I like to say this about Joe
So then you hear what's his name you hear
Dave Chappelle does the comedy special. Yeah, and he says hey ladies. I just want to tell you
You know, I think one of the most miraculous things you can do is have a baby. Yeah, it's you know
You should have freedom of choice. Yeah, I'm for you. Yeah, you should have a freedom of choice
But there's a bud if you choose to keep the baby I can also choose not to pay child support
Yeah, and all of a sudden people way way way way way way way, but no, no, no, that's not you know, it's not cool because this isn't so then
But some people say well listen
He makes a very good point. Yeah, if it's your choice
It should be my choice, whether I should pay or not. But whether he's right or not, it's irrelevant.
It started the conversation. Then the one bit he did about, so I see this card, there's
the LGBT everybody that's in there's a queer, there's this, there's the trans, there's this,
there's that, right? And he calls out the transgender community and they're about to cancel this guy, right? Okay.
Neither Joe nor Shepal got canceled. Correct.
That's good for society.
Agreed.
Hear me out.
Agreed.
That's good for society that neither Joe
and Shepal gets.
Agreed.
So, society needs these two guys.
Agreed.
Because they get to talk about stuff that gets everyone
to be on the edge.
Now, Joe almost got canceled.
Almost.
I'm having that. I'm having that. I'm having that. I'm having Joe almost got canceled. Almost. I'm having that came from very much the hardcore. They almost got canceled because of the
end award or because of all these other videos that resurfaced. Any came on and did this
video and he said, here's what I'm watching, et cetera, et cetera. And then Chappelle took
his angle as well with they tried to cancel him as well. But all I'm saying is from how
we need certain people to be out there pushing the envelope
and questioning the status quo.
So you're looking back for yourself right now.
There may be a lot of people now.
You can say, look, I'm not solving to be a YouTuber.
I'm not solving to be on TikTok.
I'm not solving to be on Instagram.
But the messaging is not going to be as visible as great agree. As great as, you know, Rumble's stock is up in 12%
all of a sudden.
I totally get it.
I hope they blow up.
I think it's great for Facebook to have a competitor.
I agree.
But it's not that.
Say, first of all, I'm going to get your thoughts on that.
But say you do get a second try at this.
Yeah.
Okay.
Say you do get a second try at this. What adjustment would you make?
And that's a good question.
And I understand your point absolutely.
And I agree with you.
The world would be a better place
with me on these mainstream platforms.
What's interesting is I think they killed me in my infancy.
Even though I became the most Google man on the planet,
it was very, very meteoric, happened very quickly.
I had already had conversations with my team internally
understanding that now that I'm the
most famous pound of the planet, I have to create my messaging.
Not say anything different, say it in a different way.
We were already doing that.
For a month prior to the ban, we had already changed a lot of the messaging, changed our
stance, not stance.
We said the same things, changed the way we'd say certain things, removed certain subjects
altogether, and we were already creating our messaging.
However, they looked at me and I think that the social media companies saw me as perhaps a 19-year-old warrior who was soon going to become a warrior king and thought we either kill him now, or he's going to become too big to kill.
And they've decided to kill me now.
I've only been the most... I've only been super viral for six months.
If they would have given me a year, the messaging would have absolutely been created to a point
that I don't think they would have believed me at all.
My, one of my last posts on Instagram was, I wrote this post, I said, I understand that
certain people have false narratives about me and I'm looking to correct them.
So, on Instagram, I put up a post saying that, for every like this picture gets, I'm going
to donate $2.
One dollar to female cherry to protect them against domestic violence and one dollar to men's mental health
cherries. Two dollars per like to show that all my haters who only talk negative, I actually do
something to fix the problem. I take the negativity and I turn it into light as God would want me to do.
I'm going to donate money. It was a seven-day countdown. Instagram deleted me on the sixth day. When I, at the time of deletion, I had 555,000
lights. It's $1.2 million dollars. I was prepared to donate to charities. Nobody wants to talk about
that. Nobody wants to mention it because I'm evil, right? At the time of my deletion when I got
deleted, the only appeal I sent to Instagram, the only message I sent was, can you confirm the
number of likes on that picture so I can finish my donation?
They ignored me completely unirly. They need one or apply to you.
So I was already understanding that the way you can say certain things when you have
300 views on a video where most of the views got 300 views has to be created and changed.
Not because I'm saying anything incorrect, but as a professional you have to understand that things change and also no matter what you say, a very small
contingent of the world will misunderstand it.
If not 0.1% of people misunderstand you, that's not a problem when you get three interviews
of video.
That is a problem when you get three million views of video.
So me and my team had already accepted this, already decided upon it and had already implemented
it. But the momentum was so strong,
and the rise was so meteoric that the social media companies,
even a month after implementation, decided,
I'm sure they sat around and said,
we kill him now, or he's gonna become too famous to kill.
And they thought, we have to try and kill him now.
Now they have failed.
Rumble, it in itself has proved they failed.
I get more views on my Rumble view videos than I got on my YouTube. When I did a YouTube live, I had
around 12,000 views. On my first ever Rumble live, I had 127,000. On my second
I had 75,000. So they've marred me and made me more famous than ever. But the
message has already been created and changed. I understand very, very well
because that's a professional. You have to take accountability for everything. I understand that
I have a 15 year old kid without my life experience, without my credentials. Listen to me, not
in full, but in segments, small parts, and then takes on board, it may negatively affect some of
his outlooks. I understand that. My counter-argument is this. Find anything on the entire internet,
where if it's not chopped in a negative way
and fed the 15-year-old kids,
where it cannot be a detriment,
that's the entire internet.
That's anybody.
We've already talked about modern culture,
having sex with a devil on TV,
transgender, whatever they're trying to do,
make kids chop the dick off, whatever.
We've talked about all this.
So that's the entire internet.
That's not an argument against me. That's not an argument against the internet as a whole. But I was responsible enough as an trying to do, make kids chop the dick off, whatever. We've talked about all this. So that's the entire internet. That's not an argument against me.
That's not an argument against the internet as a whole.
But I was responsible enough as an adult to say, okay, I'm still going to take that in
mind.
I'm still going to be responsible for that myself and change my messaging, which I intended
on doing.
But they already decided to nuke me absolutely and completely.
And that's where part of me, I don't want to be too defiant.
I'm certainly not looking to go to war with anybody.
But part of me is kind of like, I would have never
ever been controlled opposition because I can't be bought and sold.
But I would have had very, very detailed conversations
with social media execs and say, what are you truly uncomfortable with?
The way you say this, okay, well here's what I'm trying to say.
Yes, okay, so what have I said it this way?
Okay, cool, let's work together.
But they didn't want to be reasonable logical actors. They wanted to just try and annihilate me, hoping I
would disappear, and they're realizing in real time that I didn't disappear. So now I'm sitting here
ideologically thinking, do I give a fuck what they think? I only care about making sure my message
is appausive for the world. Do I really give a shit what YouTube want? Now, so if they do let me
back, yeah, sure,
I understand something that has to be created, et cetera, et cetera.
But my message you will remain true,
the things I say I do mean,
they are genuinely a positive,
and this could have been a positive experience
for social media for me.
How much money do I bring to social media companies?
I'm the most viewed man on the planet,
not a single monetized video.
They wouldn't monetize me.
Billions of unmonetized views.
How much money would they make in?
Like, it could have been great for everybody,
but they got emotional,
sat somewhere in California, emotional, decided I was evil,
and they decided to go the destructive route.
So it's kinda like, you know when the Germans
tried to negotiate with the Russians in World War II,
there was negotiations at the beginning,
and the Russians spoke a lot because they were trying to actually negotiate.
And then once the Germans overstep the line, it took the piss and destroyed Stalin-Grad,
it took a bunch of Russia that, when they tried to negotiate with the Russians again, the
Russians only asked one question.
The German negotiators came and they were losing, the Russians just said, why are you here?
Oh, well, I'm here to represent the German.
No, no, no.
This is Russia.
Why are you here?
Where were you born? Berlin, okay.. This is Russia. Why are you here?
Where were you born?
Berlin, okay.
Tell me the story.
Why are you here?
And after hours, you end up saying,
well, I joined the army and Hitler made me do it
and I ended up getting here.
Because once you've been fucked with to a certain point,
it's just like, well, I don't know how much
I want to negotiate now.
So I have some social media companies
if they work to finally come to their senses
and speak to me, sure, I understand certain messages
you've created, I understand that, but I don't need them.
I no longer need them.
There was a plate where I perhaps believed I did need them.
I now understand that I don't.
And that's certainly changed in negotiate, David.
Absolutely an added way.
Because my message is they've only proved me right.
All they've done is proved me right in every regard.
I have more viewership, more views, and more dedicated, more loyal fans than I've ever
had.
All they've done is damaged their stock price.
You're correct, Rumble's going to the moon.
All they've done is damaged their own stock price and convinced everybody who believed in
me that the matrix genuinely doesn't want people to understand my ideals.
They have martyred me.
They have martyred me now.
So now it's going to be a matter of, yeah, I will talk to you about coming to your platforms,
of course. But I'm going to say the same things I say and yes, I'll create the messaging of course
But we also have to have a conversation as professionals for you to understand that you acted emotionally made a mistake
And it means a lot to me because I'm a principled man if some of the senior whoever SEO
Exactly to say yes, we made a mistake and we're sorry. We misunderstood you. That's all it would take for me to say no problem
I understand that I'm going to create my We know that's not going to we misunderstood you. That's all it would take for me to say no problem. I understand that.
I'm going to create my mind.
We know that's not going to happen.
Of course it's not.
Because this will happen to tyranny.
When you have a monopoly, when you have a monopoly, and this is the beautiful thing about
the world because we're so sick of it, when you have a monopoly over anything, you believe
that your monopoly will last forever.
Everyone always has.
The Roman Empire did.
The Third Right.
Social media companies.
When you have a monopoly, we're smarter than all the other control mechanisms and
wallopolis. We're never going anywhere. We're too smart. And the funny thing about
monopolies and tyranny is that you have to use force. And force is something I
understand very, very well. Force is a very, very powerful tool until it's overused.
Let's use the Romanian example just because I live in Romania.
It's only because I'm going to use it.
There's a riot, there's a protest, you send the army.
Get rid of it.
Riot protests send the army. Get rid of it.
Riot protests send the army, trying to get rid of it.
They won't leave open fire on protestors.
Too much. People have had a fuck enough.
Then you end up outstead.
There comes a point where you can use force,
but once it's overused and people don't believe in your fairness, people don't believe in the fact that you're non-biased and you're
still using force, there is a mass uprising.
This is a human nature.
I truly believe my banning was that moment in social media.
The stock prices reflected, my views on rumble reflected, the public sentiment across all
social media platforms reflected.
People understand that they have overstepped the mark and they are no longer seen as trusted
with force.
You can't have force if you're not trusted with it.
The reason we accept our governments to have police forces and guns and weapons because
to a degree we trust them.
Once you accept your government is a psycho-tyrannical dictator, you don't want him to have any force
anymore.
I think they made a massive, massive
mistake. And if they don't see it themselves yet, they will certainly. The pressure is
behind the dam. The only crack that's missing is for someone to be canceled and be more
successful than before. That's all that it takes. One crazy guy in fucking Bucharest. And
then you're going to see a mass flood. And I didn't want this war. I didn't want this.
This was social media companies forced me to do. But this is the situation they're currently in, whether
they realize it and I can see it or not. But my cancellation has made me more
successful than before. So now what? You've shot me with your biggest bullet. I'm
still here. What do you do now? And that is the the responsibilities on that. If
they were, if they can remove their emotions from disliking me and actually
look at the chessboard
They're gonna see they have a lot of pressure on some key squares. Can I push back?
Absolutely. Okay, let me push back a little bit
So on the video you're going away at video you say I take full responsibility for what's happened the band is a good thing
This gives me the opportunity for a first start. It's a massive opportunity to have no ill-will for social media companies correct or the haters out
I will pray for you, but I will not go down as a villain. Correct. You're right. I will not go down as a villain. Fantastic. So,
you know, the part that I also see that's a challenge is the following, which is very hard. You know
how you're explaining in almost all tyrannical situations, they don't know that they have a monopoly until eventually there's
a revolution in a boom flips game over it's over with right I should be in Iran right now
I'm not in Iran because the Shah thought you know he wasn't paranoid enough and he thought
he was untouchable okay I'm supposed to be in Iran today I'm not in Iran we were forced
not Carter comes in Kissinger it's out came over and I'm living in the States.
Now, God's got a bigger plan.
I support it.
I'm not sitting here saying, I wish I was in Iran.
There's a part of me that's thankful for Jimmy Carter.
And there's a part of me that would love to sit down with again.
Have a nice lengthy conversation with them.
Yeah.
But so the Shadr is an interview.
I don't know if it's BBC or one of the interviews.
They're asking him a question.
Iran's growing rapidly.
They got this massive 25-year contract with five countries
for oil from 1954.
It's a petroleum contract.
He's coming up.
It's 77.
It's Germany, France, US, UK.
I believe it's these four countries.
They're sitting there worried because this guy keeps saying,
I'm going to raise the prices.
I'm going to raise the prices.
And in the next five years, we're going to be big in a UK and in the next 25 years we'll be competing
with U.S. and he's the man in charge and he's got a smirk on his face when he says this.
And a little smirk on a small on his face says he thinks he's untouchable. What ends up happening?
This is a guy running one of the most powerful countries in the world who speaks seven different languages possibly the sharpest camp in the world in the 60s, 70s
coming up. And his father was Resah Khan who was a top G you would call him a badass mother,
you know, at the highest level. He was a guy that was feared because he wasn't exiled because he was littered to top. Okay. So this happens and that takes me to another place where Michael Jordan
is getting retired. LeBron tries to do the noble things as we, well, I think we should retire
number 23 because you know, Michael Jordan, there's never going to be another Michael Jordan.
Michael Jordan says, no man is bigger than the NBA. And I appreciate that LeBron, but no one is bigger than the NBA, right?
Okay.
So for you, and where you're at, I get what you're saying.
I fully get what you're saying.
And by the way, you have to know,
we're hoping you're right.
Of course.
We're hoping you go out there and get 100 million subscribers
on Rumble, and you have to kind of follow Mr. Beast,
PewDiePie, have it rumble
and Chris is going to be a billionaire, you're going to do what you're doing, everything's
going to take off.
Great.
But we're also in the conversion game.
If the outcome is really to talk to people who you can convert, because if you're talking
to people that you agree with, you know, really, you know, injecting that philosophy to baptized people.
What made you necessary was you were on platforms
where 80%, 70% didn't agree with you.
And you were baptizing.
A great.
You were forcing the conversation at the dinner table.
A great.
You were forcing a conversation at lunch, at dinner,
at the gym. I don't agree with them. I think he's full of shit. a conversation at lunch, at dinner, at the gym.
I don't agree with him.
I think he's full of shit.
I think he's listening.
I agree with him.
I like what he said.
I don't like him.
My girl likes him.
Why don't you girl like him?
All this stuff, right?
Great.
So, you know, I say this again because I'm glad Joe earned St. Status.
So this is kind of where I'm going with this.
Let me kind of flush out my thoughts on what I have
Here's what I see you don't have and
If I was a advisor sitting on a board and you're like, hey, I got five people guys
Here's what I want to do next 15 moves. What do you think? And these are people you trust 100% bulletproof people?
I would say okay, who do you really have?
You don't really have you have fans you have true believers you have 100% true believers
Yeah, but here's a part what institution supports you. What do you mean what major institution supports you?
None are great. Okay, who supports Joe UFC? That's powerful great because Democrats Republicans independence white
Black Hispanic educated uneducated degrees degrees C, a billion or a million, broke
man right, follows UFC.
Shepel, what organization support Shepel?
Comedy.
He's the king of comedy.
He's the goat of comedy right now.
He's a guy at the top.
It doesn't matter what anybody say.
He is the goat.
He's the guy that everybody talks.
So what do you think you need to be doing?
If you were to strategically, because like
you say, kickboxing is not that big of a space. Yeah. Where could that, I think come in.
I think you understand what question I'm asking. Absolutely. And you're completely and
hourly right. The reason I believe that I'm going to be okay is, is threefold. One,
the matrix has not completely and hourly deleted me because they can't. I'm still all over these platforms.
I'm still all over.
My account's gone.
I never had a Tik Tok account anyway.
They said, what are the news that they banned my Tik Tok account?
I said, I don't know which poor 15-year-old had his account deleted.
What a wholesome bomb.
I don't have one.
I don't have a Tik Tok account.
I know I'm a YouTube account and I look at an Instagram account.
That's crazy, by the way. I don't even have a Tik Tok account. I know one of your YouTube account, and they'll have an Instagram account. That's crazy, by the way.
I don't even have a Tik Tok account.
I have one.
They watch it.
Although you were going viral on Tik Tok,
it's destructive for the mind.
Destroy your attention span.
So I don't have one on my phone.
I'm already all over these platforms.
The problem is, my biggest problem I was facing,
pre-band was people, a lot of people go and take smart
and I agree with him, he's too fuck with the matrix the mayor of the enemy him being danger
Nah, yes, the only problem I had nobody said I was wrong. They said I was semi-paranoid
Then I was proved right
So now I've had so many people going you know what I loved your content, but I thought that
This part was wrong, but fuck you were right you were right you were right
They proved me right about a whole bunch of things and what happened was actually interesting when I first got banned
for the first
Maybe only six hours if you put up a new video with me. They deleted it from YouTube
But now they stopped because you can't ban everybody. You can't
ban everyone. You can't ban thousands of accounts. You can't ban all the young men. You can't
ban all the reaction accounts. You can't ban all the haters of mine. You can't stop commenting
on my videos. You can't ban Logan Paul talking about me for hours. You can't stop it. So now they
tried the true tyranny and backhead.
So I'm already still all over YouTube. But now I have a merit. I have a badge of he's
so, he's telling so much truth that they banned him. Another thing they don't anticipate is
that I've been talking about my band for years. There's something they don't talk about.
When I've been on every podcast saying I'm going to get banned for three years and then I get banned, does that maybe look smart
or stupid?
I told you what was going to happen. You didn't surprise anybody, didn't surprise me. I've
been talking about for a very, very long time. Now, the public consciousness, let me talk
about this at length. The reason I don't have high level support yet is because the public
consciousness is simple. The public consciousness, companies follow money.
They know how much money I'm doing.
Imagine our to endorse a crypto, just imagine.
I never would.
And there's a bunch out there pretending they are me,
but they're not me.
Imagine how I could turn a nothing
into a hundred billion market cap to a dollar.
But I don't support these things,
because with cryptos, it's player versus player.
Some people sell the top, some people lose, it's normal. I don't want any of my people to the wall. I don't support these things because with cryptos it's player versus player.
Some people sell the top, some people lose. It's normal. I don't want any of my people to
get scared. So I don't support these things. They know how much money I'm worth. They're
scared of the backlash. I have had, and I won't say what type of company, but I've had
at least 15 companies reach out to me from varying industries, sponsorships, payment processors,
social media companies, etc. who have literally
said to me, we're monitoring public sentiment, we see it changing in real time, and we'd
like to discuss a sponsorship or some kind of deal in perhaps a few months. Everyone's
waiting to make sure that, because right now 80% of the population knows bullshit. Once
90% or 95% of the population know that the backlash against me is bullshit, the amount
of money that's going to be offered to me to support things is going to be one
new mentor.
It's already coming.
It's already there.
People already love my ideas.
You would not believe, I don't want to say the car brand.
But there's a particular car brand.
Think of the top five luxury car brands you can think of.
There's a particular car brand.
I bought one of their cars.
It's a flagship model.
It's 1.2 million.
I bought it.
They did the big unveiling about a month ago.
I couldn't attend, I was busy.
I sent a friend of mine in place
because I had a special car to go see.
The CEO of the company said,
please can you get him to email me?
I emailed the CEO, he said,
listen, I know a lot of things are going public
that we can't say this thing's publicly.
I just want you to know that we support you.
But these are the CEOs of Billy and Dollar companies.
They're all already on my side.
They have to watch their stock price as they should.
They have to mark PR, public sentiment as they should.
That's changing in real time.
This isn't what I talk about the redemption arc.
And may take six months, may take two years.
The things I say are too powerful
and too beneficial to the populace for it not to turn around
where people say, tape is a good thing.
That's where all of that is coming.
It is coming and you're right.
It is coming.
Right now as a company you sit there and look at tape and go, we love him.
He could get our exact audience.
You could bring billions of dollars, but there'll be a backlash.
That's just, but it's changing.
It's changing.
I really believe in six months
that will completely not only change.
And we can talk about things from payment processors
who've reached out to car brands,
who've reached out to all the people who've reached out
and said, listen, please we're monitoring,
we're on your side, we're emailing you once a week,
we're just talking to the board,
we're monitoring social,
like it's all absolutely not only coming
because they know that I am a force for good.
They know that I have a huge contingent
of people who believe in me and trust in me.
And I wanna say this also publicly on camera.
They also know my endorsement is extremely powerful
because unlike Logan Paul,
who sells crypto pump and dumps,
making kids lose money,
who sells an energy drink full of sugar and trash,
sells crap.
They know I don't need money.
So anything I stand up for indoors
is because I actually like it.
You can go and give me $100 million for some shit.
I ain't gonna take it.
That's trash.
People who believe in me believe in me.
I won't compromise my integrity.
The one thing people know when they look at me
is I'm an integral person.
I certainly have morals
because I wouldn't have had enough
in this fucking position in another way.
So they look at me and go,
if he endorses something,
people are gonna believe him. And I won't endorse anything I don't believe. it's fucking positioned in the other way. So they look at me and go, if he endorses something, people are gonna believe him.
And I won't endorse anything I don't believe.
So they're right.
So any brand who comes along and does business with me
is gonna make a bunch of money.
Let's look at Rumble.
Rumble with the brave ones.
They stood up and they say, they sign me.
They come up, they said, look, we believe in you,
we believe what you're saying,
they sign me, we know what else would.
Who happened to stock price?
30%? A stock?
In a bear market?
In a recession?
People are paying attention to this shit.
So this is all coming.
This way for public sentiment to shift.
And shifting in real time, I have my own team monitoring social media comments in real
time at the height of the ship storm.
At the true height of the ship storm was 50-50.
It's currently 80-20. It's only going one way.
They can't, the program with the social media companies and the matrix, they fired all their bullets.
They can't start printing again, I'm a misogynist. They can't get the daily mail to do a new story
on how I'm dangerous. They've done it all. They've run out of ammo and I'm still alive. They've emptied the clip and it hurt me, but I got up.
And now they're like, quick, quick shit.
What else are they gonna do?
What are they gonna do?
What are they gonna say about me now?
Can I tell you why?
Sure, well, because you talk about institutions being
behind certain high profile individuals,
states that as you refer to, while Joe Rogan,
you couldn't cancel Joe because you have sees behind him
or in a chapel.
He was 12 to 24 months away from him. He wasn't there. Yeah, no, not yet.
Yeah. But the institution, it's not a formal institution, but it's certainly an institution,
is you've won the hearts and minds of young men. Right. Across the planet. Right. And even if you get
canceled on social media, you still have millions and millions of young men
that's like, where's the date?
And we want the date.
And this is why they killed me early.
They killed me early because they knew I was gonna get
to this state should stay this.
But the problem they don't understand
is that inside of every single young man,
there's a rebel, whether it's the punk rock rebels,
whether whatever it is,
every single young man has a degree of rebel in him.
So when you take their hero and marr her him, what does that do?
It solidifies the rebel statements.
I've had, you wouldn't believe.
I've had 17 year old kids from Slovenia, email me, trying to give me their life savings of
two and a half thousand dollars.
Anything to help you, the amount of money they're trying to, I like bro, I don't need money.
Thank you.
These kids will do anything to keep me alive.
Like, it's true belief, it's true belief.
That's why they tried to annihilate me.
They thought we have to annihilate him now.
He's gonna get to a point where he can't be annihilated,
but it didn't work.
In fact, it re-solidified it.
I had to find other platforms, perhaps it slowed it down,
whatever, but the hearts and minds are still there.
There was a video that was on my Instagram
of when I went to Slovenia.
Slovenia, I've never been Slovenia in my life.
I turned up in the sheer on.
I parked outside a hotel, and then you guys seen it.
There are five or 10,000 people outside the hotel
screaming, top G, top G, top G, I'm in the room.
These two chicks, they're looking at me
and looking at each other like,
you're getting top G tonight, like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, each other like, you're getting told G tonight, like,
I'm not here to get sued.
They were standing there for hours.
We had to call the police.
They're like, it's a different level of movement.
And that's what they're scared of.
And I also want to say this publicly to them,
because I believe they are watching.
I'm not the enemy to the systematic powers.
I'm actually very intelligent.
When you're saying earlier about Logan knowing his place. I'm not
here to try and become king of earth. I'm not here to get suicide. I'm not here to
do any of that. But I do have a huge contingent of young men who believe in me.
And I do understand that the things I'm teaching them are good for them. And by
extension, it will be good for society. I'm not trying to take over the world.
Right? I'm not trying to do that because I don't want to end up in a position where I'm against
people who run the world.
I'm not stupid, but their attack has failed.
So now they have to sit and if they have a brain analyzed what they're going to do next.
St. status is coming one way or another.
I truly and I really believe that.
I'm already having conversations with very important people.
I'm rumbled with the first people who stood up to me and said, you know what, we've got
your back 100%.
Including financially.
And they offered me a huge financial incentive.
I said, you know what, don't worry about that.
Let me just, you keep the stocks, don't worry about it.
But I don't need money.
And when you don't need money,
it also puts you in a very, very powerful position.
It's very rare you find a man who has that much influence.
It doesn't want money.
I don't want money.
I believe in what you're saying.
Let's do it. I believe in this. Let's do it. I don't need money.
I believe it. I really believe in perhaps you'll disagree with me because you have more
money than I do. Once you get past a certain number of millions, it's the same.
What are you going to buy? How many stakes can you eat? I don't gamble. I don't take
drugs. You eat vodka's cheap. I have my house. I have 27 cars. They're not
to buy. I have diamond watches. I really, although I talk about making money and I
talk like I'm a money-oriented person, I do that because you cannot truly
escape from the matrix of your poor because they use it as a control mechanism
against you. But once you get past that, it doesn't matter if you have 50 million
or 75 million. Your life's the same, 400 million. Your life's the same.
I don't need more money.
It's not interesting to me.
What's interesting to me is living a life that's true to God.
I like being able to go to sleep at night,
knowing I'm happy with myself and who I am.
I like knowing the things I say on podcasts
are good, genuine, influence on the world.
I like if something bad happens to me,
which happens to everybody,
I can go to sleep knowing that karma is gonna reward me
because I'm a positive influence. I don't need to sell my soul for money. This is the
thing the Logan does not yet understand. He still thinks selling his soul's worth it.
It's not worth it for money. I don't need money. It's not about money for me on any level.
It never will be. So I do believe St. St. St. St. is is coming. You have a very, very powerful
point. And also, this is what you have a level of power control I don't have, right? You have a certain status and power, you're right, I don't you have.
But I do certainly not really believe it's coming just because of the feedback I've had.
It's been absolutely monumental.
On the day of my banning, I got 94,000 emails.
94,000 people took time out of their life to just email me support.
It's insane.
It's insane.
They haven't tricked anybody.
It just proved me right. You know what's the crazy thing about, you know, in America, my dad's It's insane. It's insane. They haven't, they haven't tricked anybody.
It just proved me right.
You know what's the crazy thing about, you know, in America, my dad says, if they want to
see you fall in America, do it.
America loves seeing a personality fall.
But what they love even more than that is redemption.
It's a very big infatuation Americans have with that. So you think about
Tyson coming on knocking everybody boom, he loses the bus of Douglas. Oh my gosh, bus of Douglas
is and then now he's coming back up. Then when they see the new Tyson, so there's a part of anybody
that's going through the momentum, the highly, highly exponential momentum, Tyson experience, your experience,
it doesn't happen to often.
Most people, they grow 12%, 24% they grow.
Very few go like this.
Yours was exponential.
But the part that's exciting,
most people, you're not 55.
You're not 45.
You're 35, 36 years old,
which means the evolution that's most exciting my watch in you is,
which I hope you don't take your foot off the pedal.
I hope you push full throttle with the rumble.
I hope you fall on, keep going with your content because you're going to evolve.
Some's going to happen in your life in the next five years.
You're going to evolve.
Some's going to happen by the time you're 45.
You're going to evolve.
And then you're going gonna talk about different things
and some perspectives are gonna change,
some perspectives are gonna adapt.
That's what makes the journey of the hero exciting
because everybody learns as you go through it.
Absolutely, and not early.
And that's one of the most beautiful things about being human.
And I was talking earlier about the redemption arc.
And you mentioned earlier in my final video
how I said I'm glad that this ban happened to me
And one of the reasons I was glad is because it gave me a chance to address the consciousness of the world
There were certain rumors about me which had spread like wildfire and the unfortunate reality of the internet is
If there's a rumor about you
All right, how many times you dispel it if there's more clicks and more interest in
How many times you dispel it? If there's more clicks and more interest in perpetuating the rumor, that's what people
are going to do.
And this ban is to a degree a chance for a fresh start because it allows me to discuss
all the rumors.
People talked about me hitting a girl with a belt and me being a woman beer.
That same woman has made three videos subsequently.
Three saying it was consensual, it was a long time ago, he's still a good friend of mine,
but no matter how many videos she makes, right? The video of her saying this is bullshit,
gets 10,000 views, and the video of me being a woman, or gets millions of views. That's the
nature of the internet. So you need a mass extinction event, you need something big to happen
to address it. The other big thing that's against me is the fact that my house was rated by Romanian police and people talk about me being a people trafficker. And that's a really, really
interesting one. It's interesting because I actually kind of think it's a perfect storm. Some of
the other things I say about accessible corruption or the fact that I live in Romania, which has a
bad reputation, makes people think, ah, so he's a criminal over there and he can get away with it,
et cetera.
Let me tell you something about Romania.
They have a bad reputation for a few things,
and one of them is people trafficking,
which is age old, that was from the 90s.
It's not case anymore, not at all.
But they're very sensitive about it.
The number one crime you'll get in trouble for in Romania
is exactly that.
It's the one thing that they're very sensitive about.
It's the image of their country.
They're not gonna allow some guy
to make their whole country look bad.
It's like going to Dubai and bragging about
fucking being the financial criminal or something.
Like no, no, no, no, no, that makes Dubai look bad.
So that's the one thing you'll get in trouble for.
I wasn't doing it, what happened was,
and I've explained this at length.
I was swatted, loads of people have been swatted.
Someone called the police with a fictitious story,
a complete false story.
We were having a party at our house.
There was a bunch of girls there.
My brother and I got bored, decided to go to the casino.
We don't gamble heavily, but we wanted to go play poker.
We went to the casino, left the party unattended.
There was like 20 girls there in our PA.
So there's only girls in the house.
This is all on CCTV. This is the reason I'm not in jail. The girl gets a phone call. It's her
boyfriend in America. It's where Massachusetts. I saw you on Instagram story. That's Tate's house.
The girl, she was from Miami actually flew over to meet Tristan. She messaged you on Instagram.
The girl said, oh, yeah, but I didn't want to be here. I'm trying to leave and hung up.
So her boyfriend, I don't know, simped, right?
I don't know if he believed her.
I don't know if he was jealous of us.
I don't know what.
Calls the American Embassy in Romania.
It's if my girlfriend's being held against her will in this house.
Now I have absolute respect for the Romanian authorities.
I would hate to live in a country where they get a phone call saying a woman is kidnapped
and they don't bother to do anything about it. That would be a terrible country to live in a country where they get a phone call saying a woman is kidnapped and they don't bother to do anything about it.
That would be a terrible country to live in. Of course they strapped up. Of course they
turned up. They were very, very respectful. They turned up. They're all strapped. They're
very respectful. And because I'm known in the country, Andrew Tristan, we've heard the
support that it was a very cordial conversation. We'll look around the house, no one's
here. We have CCTV in our whole house. They went to the cameras. They saw the girl on
the phone, go out, get a pizza, come back, get an Uber home.
They were like, well, this is bullshit.
It's like, well, obviously it's bullshit.
I was swallowing, a guy effectively
just made up a false reason to go.
Tata, took us to the police station,
do some paperwork.
They came to the house,
they initially just searched the house at five.
By 8 p.m., they went to the police station,
do some paperwork, by 8.45, we were released.
That's it.
No one talks about that. Tates house was
rated for human trafficking. He used a human trafficker. He's house rated for human trafficking.
I have no charges. I'm not on bail. There's no criminal investigation. It's over. It's done.
But the nature of the internet, Tate being a human trafficker gets clicks. Some girl lying doesn't
get clicks as an nature of the internet. So I don't get a chance to dispel these things
unless there was a mass banning event. and when I was talking to my team saying look we have to change the public image we have to change
away correct certain things in the month before the ban we were discussing how
do we fix these rumors and it's hard because especially when you have massive
detractors people who hate me don't want to tell the truth they hate me they
just want to take anything they can get to attack me like I said they can't
attack my physicality or my success so they want to take anything they can get to attack me. Like I said, they can't attack my physicality or my success, so they have to attack whatever they can get.
So there are people in the internet who repeat the same lie on repeat, because that's
all they want to say. So it was actually a blessing in disguise. So there's no people
trafficking charges. I'm not people trafficker. The women's come forth and they may not
beat women. Like all these things are complete false narratives, and that's why the banning
was a good thing, because it allows me to finally get everyone's attention, say listen calm down. I know I I've talked to you but you can't just be a human
trafficker and run around the world and not and get away with it like this that's in
sanding that's that's great. It's almost like a fresh start clear the air all right after the
smokes go and let's see what we got. It is it's a fresh start and although I don't believe my
enemies and detractors are logical enough and intelligent enough and also non-emotional enough to accept
it's a fallacy and simply stop saying it,
what it does do is the matrix is fired every bullet it has.
It's the empty clip.
They fired the, he's a people trafficker thing.
It's been proven false.
They can no longer repeat it.
They can't take the bullet back
and reload the gun and shoot it again.
So instead of having it as a nagging annoyance, instead of having it as the odd bow and arrow shot at me for the rest of human time, I'm
glad they shot me with the M16 and it's done and I survived. Top G, here I am. And I can
finally understand that it can't be repeated and it's finally gone away. If anyone listens
to my content, I champion masculine strong men who protect women. That's what I champion.
I say all the time, people trying to say I'm negative and my minds
sets are negative. If you call a police officer in the heat of battle, you want
men brave like me. If you call a fireman, you want him to charge into a burning
building. You want men with the tenants I teach. We are protectors of society.
We're absolutely not the predators of society. It are the people who are my
detractors, the ones I talked about who are objectively unattractive and objectively unsuccessful. They are the predators, not successful,
man. I have no need to kidnap anybody. In fact, I beg them to leave my house. I'm not going to
buy them to stay. I'm like, listen, the party's not young lady. Please go home. So it's
it's absolute insanity and I'm glad I can finally clear the arrow now. You know, I'm talking to Shaq two weeks ago at the event and Shaq at the MGM Grand
Arena, we're having a conversation.
And I said, so tell me about your upbringing, your relationship, values, and principle
that your dad taught you.
And he says, my dad would tell me, if you listen to me, I'll make you the most dominant
big man of all time.
So your dad told you that, he told me that. Okay, what else? And all these other stories you hear about with Shaq and his dad, you'll make you the most dominant big man of all time. So your dad told you that. He told me that.
Okay, what else?
And all these other stories you hear about with Jack and his dad, you know, his dad would
say, he finished his, he was a drill sergeant, so everything was yes sir, yes sir, yes sir.
He had that kind of a dad, very much of a disciplinaria, right?
Who raised them?
What are some stories with your pops, you know, you obviously a lot of it has been heard.
But what are some stories about your dad on how you raised you interested?
Yeah, my father was, I believe, the best father on the planet.
I think that every son should hopefully think the same with their father.
I think a father's role is to be a superhero.
I think a father's role is to, I think one of the big mistakes in modern society is that
people think that father should be a second mother and I disagree.
I think a father should be a superhero. And sometimes a superhero needs to go do superhero things.
My father wasn't always home. He was away. But when he came home, he came home with a story.
And I think that the quality of his presence was more important than the quantity of his presence.
He raised us with absolute duty to our last name. He made it very, very clear for a very
long time that being a tape means something
and that you have to live an honorable life
and a life that's true to God because of that.
And also his expectations to us were exceptionally high
because we were taped when I did something fantastic.
When I became State Chess Champion at age of five,
or when I did exceptionally well my SATs,
he moved me up to grades, et cetera.
I didn't come home and say, Dad, I did this
and go, wow, good job.
He was like, what are you gonna take?
The, the, who are you competing against?
I was like, well, the other kids are school.
Who are they?
Don't know, exactly.
We're gonna take, of course.
So we always had this huge expectation of us.
I made it clear that the last name means something
and we have to stay true to it.
And I think that this is kind of something that's missing
from modern society.
When you have a duty to your bloodline
and a duty to your ancestors, that is something
which you carry with yourself away from cameras and away from the eyes of the outside world.
So it's been something that's been massively beneficial to me.
Even when I went through hard times in my life, I understood that being a tape prevented
me from doing anything that's detrimental to myself.
Even basic things.
We talked about, let's say heartbreak. If I had my heart broken when I was young, instead of chasing a girl and
embarrassing myself, I could sit in my room alone and think, I'm a tape, I can't do that. I can't,
that's not how it takes act. Love you very much, goodbye. I missed her along my heart, but that
was the game. She's, I go fuck someone else and just be heartbroken a while and get over it,
because I felt a duty to my last name. So what he did exceptionally well was instill
duty to the bloodline and duty to the ancestors. We understood who my family were, understood
where we came from, knew who my grandfather was, my great-grandfather was, etc. And he
always had very, very high expectations of me. And it's often interesting people say,
you know, if you have two high expectations on kids, it's bad for them to dud-ud them that it up. I can only talk from my personal experience. The fact that such high expectations were
held for me were a massive benefit to me. My father was a disciplinarian. He was also in the
Air Force. If I fucked up, he hit me. He never beat me. He never abused me. But there was certainly
a realm in which I, if I fucked up, get slapped. It only happened to twice maybe, ever.
But I knew it was an option.
Your father was only hitting twice in my life, yeah.
And I said this, I said this on Twitter when I had a Twitter account.
Someone saying they hit kids bad.
And I said, yeah, I understand.
You can't abuse kids. It's fine line.
I know it's a very nuanced detail argument.
But in the real world, there are lines that if you cross violence
appears, if I get in your face as a man, and start running my mouth, soon or later,
it becomes physical. That's the real world. So as an upbringing of a child,
I think there should be lines that if they're crossed, violence appears, I don't
see anything wrong with that. I was never abused in any way. But if I really
fucked up and both times now and behind, I'm like, I fucked up massive. And I learned. And I was taught, oh shit,
that's a line. And I think especially with young men, if there's never going to be a physical
line, what line is there? Especially with young rebellious men. I don't know. But maybe that
shaped my mindset for a long time, because I always understood there are lines that if you cross things become physical
and I've always kept that in mind
for how I conduct myself.
I say this all the time,
I once again, I send some YouTube videos,
I don't argue with people.
If I get in a disagreement on the street,
I don't argue, I don't, hey, bro, you parked,
I thought who I am, I'm like, okay, bro, leave it, leave it.
I leave it to the last second until I feel it
there's no other choice and then it's pure violence.
I don't, because I don't see the point in arguing. That's feminine
to me and a verbal argument. I try my very best to de-escalate because you never know
you're fucking with and you never know if they want to have another jail. But there's a
line and it gets to that line where that's the only possible repercussion. That's all that
can happen and I try very hard to stay away from that line but I've always been very aware
that line is there and that serves me very, very well in my life. The morgue and the prison,
both of them are full of egos and and because I know I can handle myself I'm the number one guy
to talk down a fight but once I realize that talking ain't gonna work I'm the complete opposite
and I think that that was taught by my father. Wow. That's how I was taught, you know and have you
seen him fight? Did you ever see him fight? So my father, I have a saying, I have a saying,
which is my most famous saying I say.
I said at the end of the final video,
my unmatched Perseucacy couple was sheer
Indifitigability makes me a fear of ponder
in any realm of human endeavor.
And for the people watching, it means unmatched
Perseucacy or ability to perceive
and understand the world, pay attention to things
and take in all the different variables,
pay attention because a lot of people don't.
Coupled with indifitigability, the ability to never become tired makes you a feared opponent
in any realm of human endeavor.
So if you pay attention to everything and you analyze the chessboard correctly and you
never give up, it doesn't matter if you're trying to climb out Everest, it doesn't matter
if you're trying to escape a social media band.
You're a dangerous guy.
He doesn't quit and he pays a bunch of attention. That's a guy you don't want as an enemy. And my father said that. I heard my father say
that. The story behind it is we were in Detroit. My father was a world-level chess player.
He was an amazing man, but he was to a degree, a flawed man, let's say. He liked to gamble.
My father's attitude towards life is something I've also adopted, because I've even said
it myself. I'd either want to be filthy rich or flat broke.
I feel like slavery's in between and I said to my brother when we had no money, let's just
move to Thailand.
Let's just move to Thailand and fight and just live on 50 bucks a day and just run around
the beach and have our time back.
What are we?
Slavening away a job to pay the rent and then we're broke.
I'd rather be, I either have to feel like I'm gonna make it,
which is quick capitalists.
I don't wanna be in between.
And my father was the same.
So he wanted chess tournament, a low level one.
He made like $3,000 or something.
And he said, listen, son, the rent's paid
and I even want 100 grand or nothing.
It's just who I am.
So we went to Casino, lost all the money.
Casino's a bad place to go and try to get rich, but that's my dad lost all the money.
So then we were in Detroit and we're hustling in a park.
My dad was a chess park hustler.
He'd go into the parks and he'd sit down and say, you go and get 10 minutes.
I get a minute on the clock.
And he'd play 10 games simultaneously while they had 10 minutes each and he'd have a minute.
And he'd sit there and just and just smoke them all for money, right?
And take all the money in. So
and we'll talk about world-level chess players because I'll make it clear I do not have the
intellect to be a world-of-chess player. Even though I have the genetics it's something you're born
with. It's kind of like being a human calculator. It's something in your brain. You can't train.
It's like learning to sing. You can learn to sing but you're not going to be moriah carry unless
you're born with it right. The way his mind worked was a different level of intellect and I don't possess it. And that's a blessing and a curse because I'm
better socially than he was. He was not very sociable as a person. And in these
high-level chess tournaments a lot of them are not very sociable people. And we
could talk about that at length, but so he made some money and went to a
gas station in Detroit. And I remember this vividly. I was about eight or nine
years old. I went to the back to the coolers. I opened to get a drink. I heard all this noise.
And when I turned around, my dad was fighting three men.
And I don't know how the fight started.
I don't know where it came from.
He had one of them up against the door.
And he had him up like this and he was biting his face.
And the other two are punching my dad
in the back of the head.
And I'm a kid.
I just stood there like the fuck
and the Korean guy behind his shouting,
stop, stop, stop, stop.
And I'm standing there.
And I went, I didn't know what to do.
So I kind of went to walk over.
And although my dad was getting punched,
although he was biting this guy,
I remember him turning to me and saying,
stay there.
And went back to biting the guy.
I don't know the fuck,
to this day I don't know how the fight started.
Korean guy came around the back, kind of got in the middle,
the guys went out, they threatened to kill him.
We're gonna fucking kill you like gang members.
We're gonna fucking kill you.
My dad had blood all over his face, some from the guy,
some from him, his eye was black, his eye,
his eye stuck in that fracture,
his eye was closed, his bum's all back to his head.
So we stood there and the Korean guy started panicking.
He said, am I stored damage?
My store, wait, please, wait, please, wait, please.
And I think my dad was a bit disorientated.
He never went down, but I could tell he was a bit dizzy.
So my dad stood there and he stood like this,
like in like military position,
stood in the corner of the place
and wait for the police officer to come
and the police officer came.
I'd start doing reports, ask what happened,
start talking to reports, et cetera.
And the police officer said to my dad,
so you fought these three guys, he goes, okay, well,
what's your job?
My dad said, I'm a chess player., you go, okay, well, what's your job? My dad said I'm a chess player
And the police officer said, well, maybe you should have been something else
My dad said my unmatched first peccacin helpful with sheer individuality makes me a fear to ponder than any realm of human endeavor
I remember him saying that was his answer to the police officer. So the police officer was like
I was like, yeah, he's broke up with me.
That's the only time I ever saw him fight.
And he didn't win.
I mean, God, I fucked up, but he didn't go down.
He dealt with all three of them, and they ran.
They left in the end.
So that's the only time I ever had him.
Did you see Rage in him?
Like, did you know he had the rage or no?
His personality was a different personality. No, my father certainly I ever had it. Did you see Rage in him? Like, did you know he had the rage or no? This personality was a different personality.
Now, my father certainly not really had rage.
My father was a super unique individual.
It's hard for me to even explain.
You have to imagine a big black guy,
big physically dominating dangerous guy,
who's a chess genius,
but also he was extremely, he was extremely condescending, but I understand
why he was the way he was. When you're wired like he is, everyone is a moron. And when I say
he had photographic memory, if he goes, oh, I know someone's photographic memory, no, you don't.
I'm talking about what's your phone number? It's cool.
Six years later, just on a pay phone.
It's like, how the fuck?
Just everything you told him, you remember.
Everything.
And that becomes a detriment.
Because if you remember, and you pay attention,
if you remember every number played at every car around you,
then you're in a car with the guy, and he's like,
last Thursday, that car was beside us.
That was it.
I don't know. Of course you don't know. You don't know. I do know that car is beside us next Thursday.
Do you believe in quins? It's like, well, maybe it is a quins. Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't.
And then you can't argue with him because you don't know if he's like, well, you're not
smart enough to remember all the number plates on. So you just leave this to fucking me.
And then you turn off the road because this dude might be following you and I'm not saying
he was paranoid. I'm saying the world he lived in was a scary world.
That makes sense.
You're remembered everything all the time.
And it also means you can't really function in society because you can't have a job.
You can't listen to anybody.
You can't socialize to anybody because that's the fucking moral.
So he had this weird, he had a huge, my father diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder.
And I do believe he had it. But people say I have it, but I don't.
When you have true narcissistic personality disorder,
you truly believe you're almost invincible.
Because I understand like a guns were pulled on and you go,
you think that's going to kill me?
Shoot me, you find me get furious.
Like how dare you believe a weapon can kill him?
It was fucking.
Enraged.
Like that's who he was.
So yeah, he was a super interesting guy to grow up around
because it's weird to be around a dude who's so big
and so strong and also so smart.
And you have to just accept second place all the time.
And then you're arguing about number plates
on some fucking Corolla from Thursday.
And it's like,
so how did you process that?
Was it, was it,
I'm always gonna be in this shadow or was it,
I wanna make him proud, was it,
I still have his genes, was it?
We're destined to do something big.
What, because in most instances like that,
it's more like, yeah, I'm just gonna be his son.
Versus to come and create your own identity
with that kind of a shadow.
That's not easy to do.
Completely.
And he always, he made it very, very clear.
My father was also quite a morbid man.
I think because of his life even in his last years he spoke all the time about he had conversations
which were you'd be sitting at the table and he said are you prepared for my death?
You just be like well that will and test the way you're talking about like are you prepared like
he'd talk about dying he'd talk about me being the oldest son. He talked about me having to carry the torch.
He talked about stuff along.
How soon did he start doing that, at what age?
When I was young, 1920.
Got it, quite young.
He died October 17, 2015.
Correct.
So you're saying 19, should that would be your 35, 25,
so 16 years ago, 2006.
So 10 years before he passed away,
he's talking to you that way.
He's talking about death, he's talking about what talking to you that way. He's talking about death,
he's talking about what that's gonna mean,
he's talking about how I have to carry the family torch,
he's talking about my responsibilities into East,
he's talking about the fact that I need to evolve
and be a better version of him.
He talked about these things a lot.
Now, he also used to,
he, till the day I was an adult,
he still had a superior complex over me,
and I respected.
My dad used to say things like,
all your champion now,
you know, there's probably only one man left that could whoop your ass. That's who he was right. He's still believed to be
She got to love that. Yeah, he's to believe the competing is who he was. He's like no you're maybe champ
But there's one man left to go whoop your ass
And that's who he was and I had so much respect for him. I was like yeah, because you know, you're right
So that's just how he was as an individual but um
I think it's the opposite.
He set such a high standard in certain regards
that I knew I couldn't just be some normal guy.
I feel guilt.
I feel dirty if I was just some normal dude.
Like I can't just be under his sun.
You know like in the old movies when you watch Conan,
they say, take the son of Ditta,
I was always the son of Emory Tate, even at the chest tournaments. This is the son of Tate, the son of the son
of the son of the expectation was there. And instead of it preventing me from creating my
identity, I was actually the opposite. Okay, I have to be fantastic. And I was cerebral
enough. I said to my dad, look, I can't be as good at chess as you can. I don't think
I can do this. And they say, well, you could,
but belief is a huge part of it.
So if you don't believe you can,
then what else are you gonna do?
Because I remember telling him,
I don't wanna play chest anymore,
he said, that's fine.
But you're not gonna not play chest
and fucking watch TV.
You play chest for six hours a day,
so you need to come through the plan
for six hours a day, son.
What are you gonna do with your life?
And I chose fighting because I said,
listen, chest is one-on-one competition without luck,
without team, no ball, no wind to blow the ball on the net.
What if I fight?
So okay, I respect that.
You can be a fighter.
So it was, he wasn't trying to force me to do anything,
but he was very regimented individual unless we was,
and I have so much respect for him,
and he was my superhero.
I wanted to be like my dad.
And even from a very young age,
if you were to Google up my dad and look in the chest community, they called him ET for every tape,
also ET like the alien because he was a bit strange. But the way he played chess was
so on orthodox that sometimes he had some spectacular losses, but sometimes he had some
spectacular victories against some of the top players in the world. So everyone was
scared of him because he played with such recklessness that he was like all his blitzkrieg.
If you get through it, you survive, you get to be him.
But when it's coming hard, or the heat's on,
he destroyed some grandmasters so badly
that they took like a year away from tournaments,
like genuine embarrassment.
That's how he played.
So nobody wanted to play my father,
because it was a risk, right?
Because he's only taught 200 in the world,
but he's smoking top 10, sometimes he loses,
but sometimes he'll fucking take your head off.
So he was an anomaly.
So whenever I went to a chess tournament,
they're like, takes it, takes it.
There's always the rumbles in on,
takes it, fuck sake, takes it, takes it.
So the name was always feared.
And I think that was part of it for me.
I wanted when I turned up to a fight event,
takes it, takes it.
I want my name to mean something, right?
I wanted to mean something like, and that was always very important to me, and I turn up to a fight event, it takes here, it takes here. I want my name to mean something, right? I want it to mean something like,
and that was always very important to me,
and I was just told, look, you want your name to matter,
then you have to go make it matter.
It's not gonna matter by default.
And if you have good parents,
and some hardship and some trauma,
I think any man can become anything they want to be.
How did he bring the two of you guys together?
Like, what would he say, it's three of you.
It's you, your brother and your sister.
What would he say to keep you guys together?
What's it, hey, you guys can never backstab each other.
You guys can never, like when the whole example
we give him a Logan J, Logan and Jake,
do you, that doesn't make any sense.
What did he say to you and the two of you guys?
Or the three of you guys?
Yeah, so that's a really good question.
He was very, very focused on my brother and I,
our relationship and making sure we're close.
And he just made it clear that as you excel in life,
you're gonna have a lot of enemies.
And if you can't rely on your brother,
you can't rely on anybody.
And even when we were kids and we would argue,
I remember one time we were arguing over Lego, dumb shit,
kid dumb shit.
And we were in the dining room,
and we were arguing over Lego,
and my brother ran in there and said,
Andrew stole the Legos
He said I don't have time for this bullshit arguing over fucking Legos and
He my brother was crying so we had a little fight and I hit him or whatever
And he put us in the dining room. He said you're both staying in this room in fucking silence
For two hours straight my here are noise. I'm restarting the fucking I'm starting the time to sit here
And we're both scared even hit from him right so it's it's shit. So we sit there and we're sitting there
looking at each other to ten and eight year olds. Cry and do each other. And as soon as one of us
would like move on the seat, so I'm starting again. I have two hours of sitting in perfect silence.
It got to the point where me and Tristan learned just don't argue around that because
you're gonna end up just sitting in silence, staring at each other in the face, just sitting there.
So we just didn't argue around that anymore.
And then by extension, Mom was like,
I told your dad, so it was like, oh shit.
And then we just stuck arguing completely.
Me and my brother have not a serious argument.
In years, we just agreed, we'll like, okay,
we just agreed that it'll be five minutes, ten minutes.
But we never, we never will never ever argue.
We share everything.
We live in the same house, all the cars we share,
bank accounts, besides living in an underwear,
you name it.
We share absolutely everything from head to toe.
We've never ever ever argue.
And another key to that relationship is Tristan
accepting on the older road.
That is a big key to it.
Tristan will accept it.
Full door alpha.
There's a difference. It is a difference. But I. Tristan will accept it. Hold your Alpha. There's a difference.
It is a difference.
But I also think if we ever do truly contest, he will say,
okay, well it's 50-50.
And I might pull out this card once a year of that,
but you're the older brother.
So there's still is that older brother.
Meen, he knows you're the older brother.
I think so.
Yeah, I think he knows you're the big brother.
You're the older one, so.
So if we're over 50-50 on a call, I'm the older brother.
So that's it.
But I also, I'm like a social media company, no one to use my power. I also know when to concede. I went to
say, you know, okay, you know more about this or you know more about that or you're more, you care
about this more than I care. I don't give a shit. Whatever. But very, very early, I can pull that
car. But he was very, very interested in creating that relationship and making it very, very clear to
us that as my father lived in a combative world where he was surrounded
by enemies in his mind.
Whether it's a Corolla with a license plate, whether it's people trying to kill him, whether
it's the KGB agent, the KGB agent at the Chester tournament who threatened him in Russian,
my father was fluent in Russian.
He always had enemies and he was actually attacked and very badly hurt and butted past in 1998. He played an in-chest tournament, he beat a Russian grandmaster, and then he was jumped
and beaten in the subway, had to be hospitalized and he really killed him in a subway in Budapest
in 1998.
He believed it was a hit from the KGB, but the guy who was the next KGB guy, I personally
think you just beat an XKGB guy and pissed him off, wrong place, wrong time.
Eastern Europe was different in the 90s, they hurt him bad.
So he lived in a very combative world, and in his world it was Andrew, they're going to come for you. You're a
tape. They're going to come for you like they came for me. And if you haven't got Tristan, you haven't
got anybody. And he always taught combatable paranoid. And that's the thing. You're paranoid until
you're right. You're going to be paranoid for 20 whole long years. And then it goes down. So
it's hard to once again say it's again, like when I talk about my father,
we talk about, let's say the number plate things.
What's this person following them? No.
But that's his world.
Your mind is your world.
If in your world, we talked about believing in things
and giving it power.
If you believe you're being followed,
you're effectively being followed.
Like what's the difference, right?
So he was paranoid, but he was reacting
to the reality he lived.
And that was who he was.
And he had enough unfortunate incidents involving pure violence
to know that the world can get violent quickly.
And this is the difference between fighting and violence
and talk about this all the time.
People say, oh, tape, we're a fighter.
And I say, listen, I grew up in a world of violence.
And even to this day, I know some very, very violent people.
And there's a massive difference between fighting and violence.
I've seen genuine violence and it's an ugly thing.
Like, if I, as a, I'm a fighter, right?
But if I had a real beef with someone,
let's say they killed a member of my family,
I wouldn't be trying to fight that man.
I'd be aiming to be violent.
And SUV on a pavement is violent.
You know, 10 dudes with machete is violent.
Violence has, violence is when you don't allow any chance
of victory for the opponent.
Violence is no, there's no competition involved.
Violence is just pure attack.
And my father's been subject to that and he survived it.
But he's seen how it works.
And he's just made it very clear.
Andrew and Tristan, your best hope is together.
You can't do it apart, you can't do it separate. And this is also, I think, a lot of our mentality, even to simple
things like girlfriends, because a lot of brothers, they get different girlfriends and they move
in with their different girlfriends. And their girlfriend doesn't want to hang around with
their brother, because they're too busy having fun getting girls, and all this kind of shit,
and to a degree, your relationship with females kind of tacked your power dynamic of your brothers.
But me, my brother never allowed that. If I sat with a girl and she said, oh, your relationship with females can attack your power dynamic of your brothers, but me, my brother never allowed that.
If I sat with a girl and she said, oh, your brother's, I don't like your brother.
So listen, you better learn.
You can learn or you can leave his house.
This is your house.
This is our house.
You can choose.
You like to take brother.
You like me, obviously, romantically, but you like him.
He's your best friend.
Or you can leave this house.
And some girls are left.
That's fine.
But we've always allowed nothing to get in between us.
And I think even if I analyze the Paul Brothers of Jake and Logan,
I think if you look at their podcasts carefully,
they talk about some girlfriend,
they go fuck the same girl and all this stupid shit.
But he's your brother, bro.
Look at the fucking same girl.
She's forgot about both of you.
You know it's crazy.
You go, I have that blood bond.
And I think in many other cultures
in the world, this is more common. Like I grew up in Luton, which is a primarily, it's
in England, but it's a very, very Muslim town. And all the gangsters and dangerous people,
and even the most successful businessmen, all of them, when I was in college were Muslim
guys. And I was like, Hey, guys, what's your fucking secret? Like, how you doing this?
You work in a chicken and chip shop, a fast food restaurant,
and you're pushing a lamb bone.
How?
It's like, well I've nine brothers.
It's okay, but what does that mean?
It goes, no, because when you guys,
when you used to call me white,
when you white boys have nine brothers,
you all get nine girlfriends
who go pay nine different rents.
When I have nine brothers,
that means nine women move to the family house,
they all cook and provide,
and that's nine men go make money
and pull up family income,
suck we not on the Lamborghini. And on the nine men go make money and pull up family incomes, how can we not have a Lamborghini?
And on the house we're in.
And the house we're renting.
It's a different mentality.
How much did the Muslim religion have influence over you?
I think that it's the, I respect.
I have so much respect for it because I respect anybody
who says what they mean.
It means what they say.
I feel like they're the only religion you do.
I feel like every other religion is so wishy-washy
that it doesn't mean anything anymore.
I don't believe in ignoring the tenets
of your own religion for acceptance
or for mainstream news to like you.
Then what do you have?
They say what they mean, they mean what they say.
And primarily they focus on family and their own.
And I have to absolutely respect that.
And like I said, I grew up around these huge Muslim families
where all of them had pretty unremarkable jobs
and they still had property portfolios and supercars.
I was just like, okay, that's the power of brotherhood.
That's all they had.
I only had one brother.
I wish I had 10.
Imagine there was 10 take brothers.
Oh, no, I don't think that's it.
Imagine the world then.
Can I ask you a question about your father?
I don't know if anything's asked you.
I don't know how spiritually you are.
I know you say you're a man of God.
Yeah.
I don't know if you believe your father looking down on you.
Yeah.
You said that he had a narcissistic complex.
Yeah.
That even when you became world champion, 18 is like, you got one.
One other dude who up your ass, Andrew.
If he could talk to you now and see what you're going through.
All the highs, the lows, the money, the women, the cars, the this, the that, the banning,
all that.
What do you think your father would say to you right now?
And what do you think you would say to your brother?
That's a really good question.
I don't think he would comment so much on what's happening to me more than he'd come
out on how to handle it, which has also been a massive source of strength for me.
Like if you were to come back to life for a day, I don't think we'd waste much time talking
about the matrix and why they're doing it.
I think he already had an innate understanding of that because of how he lived his life,
how he was attacked.
He already understands all of them.
It would just be how I am dealing with it personally and how I'm using it to my advantage.
The moves on the chess board.
And once again, when I was saying before about using your last name and the duty to it as
a master's source of power, that's been a master's source of power to me my whole life
and during this experience.
They've attacked me from every angle,
they've tried to destroy me from every angle.
I'm a tape.
This is good about five.
They push that palm, and I'm about to fucking record.
That's just who I am, right?
So I think he'd be far more happy
with how we've handled it as opposed to commenting
on what's actually happened.
And my father was very, very family-oriented. The other thing he'd be very, very big about
is talking about me, my brother, making sure that we have progeny and raising them correctly.
He made it very clear to me for a very long time. The most important thing you can do is
have children. This is the most important thing you do, the rest of it. It's the link to
the link you told us. He said, in fact, on his own Twitter account, my father's not banned
from Twitter. He stopped tweeting in 2014, maybe fact, on his own Twitter account, my father's not banned from Twitter.
He stopped tweeting in 2014 maybe?
Taked terrific on Twitter. Look him up right now. He has a few tweets on Twitter.
Obviously he's dead. The council dormit. It's all there.
Taked terrific. And one of his tweets is,
love is my link to the future. I have three kids. If I could live forever, I would deny it.
The better versions of myself already walk here. So he said, I said that before he died.
So yeah, he has all his tweets and still to this day,
sometimes I'll go back and read some of his tweets.
And it gives me inspiration.
I'll give you another one he said,
I read only a few days ago,
because I read through his Twitter accounts sometimes.
He said, I allow manipulation to see where my enemy wants me
to go, then I use my mind to break the trap
and punish all perpetrators.
I like it. So he'll watch the news.
I used to see my dad watch the news, allow the manipulation.
Watch it all.
Turn it off and say, son, this is bullshit.
And it's it there and dissected all.
He had to tell.
So he'd allow manipulation.
He wouldn't deny it.
He wouldn't say, no, don't come at me with bullshit.
Say, oh, you have a bullshit story.
Come tell me your bullshit story.
Come tell me. He would say, don't watch the news. No, no, no, no, tell me.
Tell me. And then he knew his mind to break the trap and punish the perpetrator. So he was very
understanding of this. And a lot of his tweets are good for these kind of things. We're saying,
allow them to attempt to manipulate you. It's no problem. A lot of things says, one of the things I
said earlier this podcast was his, you must analyze every firmly held with belief you have,
realize where it came from,
who gave it to you, and if they have your best interest in heart, resist the slave mind.
You said all this stuff, it's all to eat it out. So yeah, he's still alive to the degree.
You know, so whether he's watching or not, he's, he, he, on one of my Instagram posts,
which got deleted, there was a, uh, Pavekken, the boxer. It was, uh, it was, uh, interaction in his corner, the 11th round on a title fight for Pavekian, the boxer. It was an interaction in his corner,
the 11th round on a title fight for Pavekian in early 2000s.
And his corner was saying,
do you miss your father?
And he said, yes, miss the father.
If you become champion, he lives forever.
And he's right.
If you become remarkable enough as a man,
they talk about your origin story.
Which is your father.
So it is my duty to my father to be the man I am.
Totally.
No one would be talking about my dad, maybe in chess circles,
but no one would be talking about my dad and mainstream consciousness
if I wasn't who I am.
No doubt.
So I keep him alive.
And it is my son's duty to do exactly that for me, to keep me alive.
The man who all banned and broke social media, big tech monopoly.
This is my son's job.
So this is what's so important.
This is who he lives forever through.
And I will live forever through my son. And that So this is what's so important. This is he lives forever through Yeah, and he'll live through it for and I will live forever through my through my son
That's a beautiful thing about it. Can I say something about Pat? I don't know how much you know, but but it's a lot of similarities in your guy's story
Right, his biggest influence his biggest hero in his life. No doubt is your father
No doubt and you have deep sense of history. You also have a deep sense of the bloodline and legacy, you know
You have deep sense of history. You also have a deep sense of the bloodline and legacy,
past, present, future.
That's a clear understanding about you.
Pat, you have a similar thing, man.
You talk about the bet David.
In this house, the bet David,
it's the last name, the last name of this,
it's almost like shapes greatness.
My father, I was like, dude,
I'm trying to be the exact opposite of you.
I don't have a very tumultuous later with my dad.
Yeah, but a lot of the story that Andrew's saying, you must identify within yourself.
No question about it. Like the whole big David tape hardware tapes were just together.
They were walking with Dylan. Dylan's my eight year old. And I said, Dylan, you realize we have the most powerful lesson in the world.
And he says, yeah, I know. 30 seconds, ladies, not saying anything. He says, daddy, how do you know that?
This is, that's all that matters, are you believe it?
You just have to believe it.
It's as long as you do your scored away.
This is, I believe it.
I said, that's all that matters.
You're a bit David.
So I understand what you're that was in with you.
But let me ask this.
So I run a sales company and my style of teaching works with it used to work only with one type of personality
Yeah, and I realized I'm one dimensional
Then I went to adjust because I was only attracting single guys that don't have any kids and they're 18 to 25 years old
Yeah, and I said no, I'm selling insurance. I got to be able to adjust and relate to the married man.
So then that opened up and there was three different ways
of communicating with three different audiences.
Then it goes five, seven.
So now you become multi-dimensional.
Did your dad's messaging resonate with your sister
because your sister is a lawyer?
She also is successful.
How did she receive his messaging?
Yeah, my sister is very successful. She is a lawyer, and I do think it resonated to a degree.
However, I think my father's worldview was so primal and so based in many things which
have a masculine edge, like threats and violence and enemies, and things that women don't
truly consider, that I think his teaching style was far more akin to men.
I think that's just how he was.
I think that it's easy for a man to adopt.
I don't think that many women,
and I don't want to be able to massage this,
this is just my worldview.
I don't think many women have a true,
because it's not their job to be,
to some degree, they feel like men should protect them,
to some degree.
Most of them, I don't feel like they have a true akin
to threats sometimes.
I give a million
different examples but if I go on a date with a girl on a restaurant the first thing she wants to
do is put on Instagram instantly. Oh, like don't know, whoa, whoa, whoa. You can't, we're here now.
Like you can't be putting that we're on in this restaurant with the napkin and the late,
that's how they kill pop smoke. Like calm down. But it doesn't consider their mind as a threat or
that many women don't accept that there
are groups of men right now sitting in rooms scrolling social media looking for someone
to get.
Look at for someone to get.
They're just sitting 10 brothers from Funtnos where sitting there just going, hmm, ah,
that was 10 minutes ago this tag.
Oh, Mr. Brigade.
Yeah, it's real.. But it's real.
This doesn't really cross female consciousness sometimes.
And I understand why, because I think
if a woman knew how dangerous the world is,
she wouldn't have been housed.
So it's easier just to not look at that world.
But the way my dad taught and the things he said,
it resonated with me, my brother and my brother,
and my sister, my sister,
is still very, very successful in her own way.
And she's married now, and she's a kid,
and she has her own man, et cetera. But also, my sister is still very, very successful in her own way. And she's married now and she's a kid, except for when she has her own man, etc.
But also, I think when a woman gets married, she takes influence from the man she marries.
A lot of different things, but my biggest male influence was my father always will be.
There will be no one else to agree with.
But you agree your sister should take the influence from her husband.
Completely.
That's the man she wants to be, and she wants her son to replicate the man she's had a gig with,
then yes, she should take his influence.
I completely respect that and understand it. But my biggest male influence in my life will always be my father. If she wants her son to replicate the man she's had a gig with them, yeah, she should take his influence.
I completely respect that and understand it.
But my biggest male influence in my life will always be my father, it can never be replicated
or replaced, where it's her's possibly cooked.
Tristan's your best friend, brother, business partner, the whole thing.
What would you describe your sister as?
My sister's your sister?
Yeah, my sister's my sister.
Yeah.
And I wish her the absolute best.
I'd nothing bad to say about her.
I wish her the absolute best.
But the bond being my brother have, I don't bad to say about her. I wish her the absolute best, but the bond being my brother
have, I don't want to say this in any kind of negative way,
I don't feel like I couldn't live with my sister full time.
Like in a same house, talking about,
it just wouldn't be weird.
I don't know why.
I always think there's going to be some degree of disconnect
just because of the gender.
Someone hurt her.
I'd be the first person to be there and help her, of course.
But she belongs to her man now. They're married. They're happy. They're in love. They have a
child. And she has a degree of separate life. My brother's lives will always be interconnected
to the end. How do you get along with her husband? It's a good guy. Yeah, it's a really nice
guy. Yeah, it's nothing bad to say about me. Funnily enough. He's alright. He's alright.
He's a good guy. We don't want him to end up like Tony.
Yeah.
What did you say?
I think you know what it is though.
The whole point is, one, the person has to want to receive
the message to the person selling the message.
The messenger messaging may only relate to a certain audience.
It may not relate to everybody.
It's not easy.
This messaging that your dad's teaching, that taught,
this is not a popular messaging where it's like,
you know, Jordan talks about in last dance.
He says, if it wasn't for his dad,
he wouldn't be who he is.
If it wasn't for his brother,
he wouldn't be who he is today, right?
There's a scene where his dad's like,
ah, whatever, Michael, just go, you know some man, you wouldn't be who he is today, right? There's a scene where his dad's like,
ah, whatever Michael, just go,
you know what's the man, you're not a man.
You go out there and just play with your toys,
we're gonna go out there and fix some things.
And Jordan says, when you're going through it,
it's psychological torture when someone's doing that to you.
Like your dad is doing that to his challenge unit.
But he obviously responded to it.
He became an assassin in the game of basketball
because he received it, right? The individual has to receive it as well. The individual has to receive it. And also an assassin in the game of basketball because he received it
Correct. The individual has to receive it as well. The individual has to receive it
And also, but I think the modern world's changed because there's a lot more opposite programming to your parents and they're used to be
I used to go to school finish school come home play chess
I was never really allowed to really watch too much TV. I didn't play Nintendo too much. I played chess
That was it. So I really did so besides the school teacher and a little bit of school I had
I didn't have too much outside programming from the matrix itself. But nowadays when you're
raising a child it's far more scary because you're trying to teach them things, that's fine.
But YouTube's trying to teach them something else. And Netflix's trying to teach them something else.
And school is trying to teach them something else more than ever before. And on top of that,
if you're not a wealthy individual, your wife now has to go to work, right? Because you have two incomes to pay the bills.
So she isn't even, your children are not even at home
with the mother or the woman who adopts
with your ideals, because otherwise,
you wouldn't be together.
Now, they belong to the state effectively
in many different ways.
The school racism, then the aftercare program,
then the internet racism.
So now you have a very difficult job,
and you'll see, even if you look at YouTube now,
children disagreeing with their own parents
about certain issues, no matter what they are,
so topical issues, politics, LGBT, whatever,
the parents will say, no, that's not true.
Well, I heard in school, it's true,
because they spend more time inside the matrix
than they do with their own parents now.
And it's very, very difficult now as a parent
to get that hard time with your kid
and say, resist that, I want you to be this way.
It was easier when I was raised.
Now with that scary, I think that's actually,
it's a very, very difficult job parents have now
because of that.
Because the programming is exceptionally strong
because it's entertaining, right?
And we've all developed ADHD and we've all glued
to social media and addicted to our phones
and things are coming through the phone.
And that's the argument they try to use to ban me.
I argue that I'm a positive force
and a star more negative forces to me on the internet which are trying to infect the children than I am. That's the argument they tried to use to ban me. I argue that I'm a positive force and a scar more negative forces to me on the internet
which are trying to infect the children than I am.
That's the argument I have.
I'd argue that I'm the complete opposite to it.
But yeah, it's a scary world.
It's scary to have a choice.
I have a simple question for you, but it's actually very deep.
Because you don't understand where I'm going with this.
How many times have you seen the movie The Matrix?
Because this is a major theme of yours.
Yes.
And Pat, I don't want to let the movie, The Matrix. Because this is a major theme of yours. Yes.
And Pat, I don't want to let the cat out the bag,
you just saw it for the first time.
To be fair.
To be fair.
Okay.
So how many times have you seen The Matrix?
15, 2015.
This has a major influence in your life.
It's a concept.
That's correct.
Right.
It's an easy way for me to express in a few words
how I view the world words.
I've adopted something from popular culture and I've adapted it to try and quickly explain.
If I try and sit and explain that most people are being used for their resource,
they're being projected a reality that isn't true, they're convinced of things that aren't true,
they're promised that if they slave away hard enough at the end, at the end, you'll retire.
At the end, they'll be good, which is a lie.
And they're just used for their resource until they die to get into that and explain that
at length is difficult.
But if I say you're inside of the matrix and they've seen the movie, what do you mean?
You're inside the matrix, you're living inside of a projected reality and your body heat
is being extracted in real time for the machines.
That's what's happening to you.
And I don't understand.
You will understand once you break free.
How do I break free?
You break free when you can talk freely. You will understand once you break free. How do I break free?
You break free when you can talk freely.
This is the thing that's amazing.
And I talk a lot about money, but I'm not that financially driven.
I just understand if you don't have money, you can't have an opinion.
You can't say what you think.
You can't do what you're not told to do, because then you can't pay the mortgage.
If they say where a mask to come to work, even no matter how much you know that mask is fruitless, you must pay the mortgage. If they say wear a mask to come to work, even no matter how much you know
that mask is fruitless, you must pay the bills. You must comply. That's the matrix. You have no
force but to comply. It's only when you get to a point of money where you can say, no, my
principles are worth losing X million. That's when you can escape the matrix. Money is a primary
motivator to escape. I've always been interested in freedom more than money. It's all about having
nice things. It's all about having nice things.
It's about having freedom of mind and freedom of thought
and freedom of autonomy of my own body.
That requires money.
Or it requires a complete opposite, like I said earlier.
It's either no money, do it on the street,
or a lot of money.
Anywhere in between, you're controlled.
But if you ain't got shit and you're on the beach,
we're a mask, get fucked.
Get fucked.
We're gonna take my house, ain't got one. No. So we'll give you a fine. Sure.
Go on, man. Like I got you money. Like so that's the only way you escape.
You escape through extreme poverty or escape through well.
And I was prepared to take you the route. I'll
for her to take either one. I want to go to that topic, but I want to finish
up the family thinking it will go there because that's a big part of
look, there's a lot of interesting people to psychoanalyze.
Yeah. I'm sure you've sat a lot of people
that try to psychoanalyze you and go through it.
A lot of them.
Most important person I psychoanalyze
is myself all the time.
Absolutely.
One time I sat and I had a list of 83 questions
that was given to me.
And one of the questions was,
who knows you the most?
Why?
Who do you get along with the most?
Why? Who do you not get along the most? Why? Who do you get along with the most? Why? Who do you not get along the most? Why?
And then I'm at the beach. I'm going through this cushion like holy shit.
Then you notice a trend like no wonder I don't get along with people like this
because you remind me of this. No wonder I get along with you because you bring a
certain level of safety. No wonder I'm okay in these types of chaotic situations
because I feel peaceful in chaotic situations.
No wonder I'm scared shitless and paranoid
when things are too peaceful.
Because I don't know,
I don't know,
I just kind of was a judge of that.
So then you're like,
okay, now I understand who you are guy.
Now let me live with you.
It's kind of like you're living with yourself.
So influence of that over you, what positive or negative influence you talk about your dad
is that women, what was it booze gambling?
Why'd you talk about that?
We also talk about the positive influence of that.
What positive or negative influence that mom have over you?
Yeah, so my mother was fantastic.
She was an amazing mother.
She, I don't know, I don't know if I can talk about positive and negatives.
My mother was very much subservient to my father,
which was a good thing.
They used to have arguments, et cetera.
And I think I learned a lot of my lessons, I guess,
on male female dynamics, to a degree from my childhood.
Like, I remember one time my father was away at chest
tournament for a month and a half,
it was way for a really long time.
He was at chest tournament playing chest all over the country. Came back for a month and a half. He was way for a really long time. He was at chest tournament playing chest all over the country.
Came back after a month and a half
within 45 minutes him and my mum are arguing.
I thought you should found something in his pocket
at phone numbers.
I don't know what it was.
Start arguing.
You just walked into the house.
I started arguing that it came down to me and said,
son, give me a hug, give him a hug and it goes,
all right, see you in a few weeks.
He's like, where you going?
And he goes, when you're older you'll understand.
Your mother won't shut up. Walk out the door, see you in a few weeks. He's like, where you going? And he goes, when you're older, go understand. Your mother won't shut up.
Walk out the door and see him again for two weeks.
That's the new he was.
Like, ah, come home.
Oh, you want to know, you want to fuck this fight?
Sorry, he was, as a man, right?
So I learned, I'm almost saying that I'm that way,
but this is my childhood, right?
I saw it.
But my mother was quite subservient to my father.
My father was certainly a disciplinarian
who certainly the man who's in charge of the house.
My mother did her job fantastically.
She taught us how to read.
She fed us very well.
She made sure we ate good.
And my dad's basic tenant was,
your mother is in charge of keeping you alive.
Food, go to bed on time, eat good, go to school,
that's what she's in charge of keeping you alive.
But I'm in charge of teaching you how
to be a man in a corner of the world.
So we have different roles. So she's gonna keep you alive. I'm gonna turn charge of teaching you how to be a man and conquer the world. So we have different roles.
So she's gonna keep you alive.
I'm gonna turn up when I turn up.
I'm gonna teach you some shit.
I'm gonna teach you how to live.
I'm gonna teach you how to live.
And they're different things.
So they had very clear defined roles.
To this day, my mother, she's still alive.
I retired her completely.
So the first thing I did when I got rich
was retire my mother.
First thing I did, because my mother was a,
when they broke up.
So this sad story of my father, which I've never told while tell it now
My father got my father's in the Air Force. He discharged
After they diagnosed him with narcissistic personality disorder. They offered him a full military pension
$6 or $7,000 a month saying that you know, you have this mental disorder will give it to you because you were such a
Fantastic member of the Air Force.
My dad was actually in intelligence.
Some right wing people on the internet think I'm a CIA
plant because my father was with intelligence.
I'm not a CIA plant.
But my father was an intelligence.
So when my father joined the Air Force,
he got on the bus, like everyone else did back then
in Alabama, got on the bus.
You go, you do an IQ test, my father did so good.
They moved him to intelligence. and my father to this day
held still holds, I believe.
At the time of his death, he still held it.
The fastest assimilation of a foreign language.
So back in the eighties and nineties,
if they needed someone to speak Russian,
they'd train a native English or American person.
Nowadays you can get a Estonian or a Latvian
because they're a pro-EU and they speak Russian.
Fluently, it's easy.
Back then, you needed a Russian speaker who'd teach them.
So they taught my dad Russian.
He learned Russian fluently in 15 days, he had to tell.
So he held the fastest simulation of a Russian language.
I know that because when he died,
he got a message on Facebook, Metta.
I got a message on Facebook from a guy who I'd never heard of,
just saying, how you don't know who I am.
I was in the air force with your father. I heard of his passing. I don't know who I am, I was in the Air Force with your father,
I heard of his passing, I just wanna let you know
that I was in the same place as your father,
I was a linguist also for the Air Force.
At the time, I was living with a Russian woman,
and we spoke Russian fluently in the house,
and your father and I started classes at the same time,
and I can say it was certainty,
the way your father learned things was inhuman,
it was robotic, within three weeks,
he was correcting me on my Russian. Yeah he was that that's who he was right so he
spoke Russian and Spanish and German we were also in Berlin at Fall of Berlin
wall so he did a lot of things he was a linguist so he used to listen to the bugs
if they bugged the room he'd listen to the bug in Russian and translate it so
that's what my father did anyway when they discharged and they said he'd
not necessarily the story and the reason they said he had that is because he refused
to listen to one of his commanders.
I don't know the exact story, so I don't want to say on tape,
but he refused to listen to one of his commanders
about a recording on a tape.
And my father was arguing with him about the translation
of a certain word.
My father believed it was slang for something else,
superior believed it was something else.
They went to a personal beef, it developed over months
and months and months of arguments about translations,
and eventually, in my dad eventually I ended up being told to sweep outside for eight hours
a day.
I got to the point where my father got to charge.
So they just charged him, they diagnosed him in the person I disliked, so they said
he wouldn't listen and they offered him this military pension and he refused it.
He said, my sanity is not for sale.
And I know that line because my mother used to scream all the time when we were broke in
the house. You couldn't have money, you had money. My sanity is not for sale. And I know that line because my mother used to scream all the time when we were broke in the house. You couldn't have money, Henry. My son, he's not for sale.
Because we were broke. That one was broke, right? So I remember the bargain, Henry, we couldn't
have money now, we're broke. So because he became a professional chess player, he couldn't
pay the bills and we were living in Indiana and South such a cargo, we were in the ghetto,
no money. So I remember him saying that all the time. So Eventually my mother was it was English. We decided to move back to England because England has social housing
You get free house and you can get benefits and that kind of thing we move back and my father stayed there
So I didn't see my father very much from the time I moved my mother was always charged to keep me alive
And he was just in charge of like giving me the lessons and stuff
So yeah, it was an interesting life, but he was he was a super principled man like he turned down money
What was actually interesting towards the end of his life?
About three or four years before he died.
No, no, it must have been way before that, because I didn't have money yet.
Maybe ten years before he died, he called me and said, you know, I've been principled for
so long and the way the world's turning and what American government's doing,
and maybe I should have just signed.
Well, do you think I should have just signed?
Didn't say maybe, should,
do you think I should have just signed?
So no, dad, no, you get to live with the pure heart.
You shouldn't have just signed.
Your mother's saying,
I should just sign it now,
and it's like a bad thing.
Sign what exactly?
Sign that the narcissistic personality
to sell his sanity and get back pay, which at the time would be like half a million dollars
Yeah, I just by the way just so you know a lot of people slam it a lot a lot of military
I mean you know people who got out a you sign you get all this incredible pension back pay
And why do they want you to sign this why do I want his father to sign this they want to sign Xeam its fault
It's all your fault. You're wrong about everything your psycho your psycho. You're Santa's for sale. You're Santa's five thousand dollars a month. You're a disability.
Yeah. So he found out that he could get back pay if he signed it. So he had a long conversation
with me and I said looked at I think he could be the right thing. I'm so proud of you.
I talked back and forth. He said, you know what? Your mother is the time in my money.
Your mother is a dinner lady. My mother was a dinner lady at this point. After we moved
England, we had some things, but she was a dinner lady. My mother was a dinner lady at this point. After we moved to England, we had some things,
but she was a dinner lady.
She got like $400 a month of clean and plates.
She had arthritis, she was starting to get bad knee
from standing up all day.
Because you know, I'm like with her anymore,
she calls me so many headaches,
but I can't let her just wash dishes on.
I might just sign it.
I was like, well dad, the choice is yours.
My dad agreed, he goes like,
I'm running out of time anyway, I'm running out of life.
I've taught you boys a lesson, you know what did I need to sign it?
Went to the military to try and sign it for the back pay,
they declined it.
He said, ah, you're not crazy anymore.
No, wouldn't give me money.
Funny that.
So let's talk about that's another story.
So when he died,
when he died, I still didn't have that much money,
but then after he died,
about luckily I started to make money by year,
two years later, and because he tried to retire my mother,
obviously I also have an own debt to my mother.
The first thing I did when I made money was to retire my mother.
So I'd say to this day,
about 15 to 20% of my income goes to my mother.
She has panic attacks.
Like she'll check her bank and be like,
what is it?
This is too much money I can't buy.
She's like scared of it.
Like just buy a Lambo.
Jill, it's fine. so I make sure she's super
What he's taking the Lambo?
Yeah, what's up bitches?
She's running around the world
I'm shit so I retired my mother that was one of my dad's last attempts at appeasing her
So yeah, she's retired so I have a really good relationship my mother
But my mother has absolute trust in me like my mother just calls me and goes, even during this ship storm, she goes,
Andrew, they're really coming for you.
They're like, I know you know what to do.
I don't know what to do.
I'm like, stay on the cruise ship, mom.
They're all about it.
I got it.
I got it.
She's not like above me.
It's hard to explain.
She looks up to me.
She's like, you fix it.
Of course, you're the leader of the household.
But an interview was done, we'll Bill Clinton.
I'm reading this book called,
not First-Straight Madness,
it's the other one, hypomanic edge.
And Bill Clinton's mom was bipolar.
And one of the things he finally said is
this interviewer is trying to get information on his mom.
And he knows that the mom has issues
and they're going back and forth.
He finally says, look,
there's zero benefit for me saying anything bad about my mom.
A daughter can say it, a son cannot say. There's zero benefit for me saying anything bad about my mind. A daughter can say it, a son cannot say it.
There's zero benefit of saying anything bad about your mom coming from the son,
which there's a lot of depth in that messaging with Bill Clinton.
But I want to transition to the next part with values and principles because to me,
you know, certain things I'm paranoid about or whatever word you wanna call with my wife's,
I was supposed to be with that,
or what's this, you know,
you're always thinking somebody's after you
because a life you live, I'm like, listen,
unless you really fully understand a life of persons lived,
you're not gonna know why they're wired the way they are.
You know, you're recreating yourself constantly,
but there's also the life you've seen.
This is the life you've seen.
We've not seen the life you interest in it.
But when I watch, you're like, okay,
strong personality, high self confidence,
comfortable in his own skin, B.M.F., bad ass, great communicator, charming,
charismatic, persuasive, all this stuff.
Stuff he says about women, five wives, all, you know, playing around, constant, all this
stuff.
But I feel a strong level of conviction and traditional values
and conservative values.
And then I'm listening to you, I'm like, okay,
so I grew up with certain men that I've influenced
over me, hey, why do you interview all these mobsters?
I grew up watching Godfather too and Good Brothers
and you know, and there's certain things amongst them
that I really respect.
I forget about the stuff about, you know,
the murder, the killing, the set that aside.
But certain code they had that they worked together with, it kept things safe.
So this is why we like watching Casino.
We like watching Godfather.
We like watching this.
You ask any Fortune 500 CEO, half of them are going to say, what's the movie that influenced
you the most?
Godfather too.
Godfather too.
Godfather too.
As much as we're like, well, not a real life, but it will be fine, but not a real life.
But where is the conservative, strong values that you have?
Again, this to the average person watching,
and say, how are you talking about it?
This the same guy that I talked about,
woman shouldn't drive, woman not just woman not this.
I feel like it's there.
I feel like sometimes you don't fully bring it out.
I feel like you're, it's almost like, you know the saying,
I work with a leader for many years,
who the saying was, never show her.
We never show her.
You're never show her.
You're never show her.
Never show her.
You're never show her.
And you're like, never show her.
I'm never freaking show her.
Hell no, I'm not show her.
Because I'm not gonna let you have one and over me
to vulnerable and then you use that to get something out of me.
I'm not for it.
I can do not do you.
Never show her.
Never show her.
And then the other side is, but if people are going to really know who you are, you've
got to show a little bit of vulnerability from people to know who you are.
For you, values, principles, deep down inside, traditional, is it real or is it just a pure,
you know, confusion I have here with my, you know, understanding of you?
No, it's absolutely not really real and I think that it is based in the natural, I
think it's a natural tendency to be conservatively minded if you are masculine and also if you are competent.
I feel like a lot of my traditional masculine values just come from my respect in myself and my confidence in my self-indane situations.
If I'm recently, I was in the Romanian mountains, it's hard to snow heavily.
There was a blizzard, I was with a girl, it was her car.
She goes, oh, we have to drive home, it's not going to drive.
It's my car, it's my car, it's my car, it's my car.
It's like, is this a blizzard?
She's like, oh, okay.
It's not me being misogynistic.
It's just, I know I can drive in a blizzard. I just trust me.
I just trust myself.
And I trust future self even more than I trust
my current self, that makes sense.
So if I have a situation now where I have a play to make
and it seems semi-risky, I'll think,
well, future Andrews even better the current.
It's a future Andrew, oh, four years from now, he'll fix it. Let's say it goes wrong, a future Andrews got it.
If current Andrew can pull X off, future Andrew can pull Y off.
So we're going to take the riskier option with a bigger reward, for example.
Obviously, you don't have to be stupid.
But I think that when you have true belief in yourself and you have true competence,
you're going to naturally inclinate towards being a protector and a provider
and have these conservative values.
It's really interesting that the closer a society is to the survival line, the closer people
naturally bends to their gender roles anyway.
So let's say we take America, right, where you have feminists and fall hard liberals and
all this garbage.
If they were all marooned on a desert island, let's say there's a ship wrecked,
they got marooned on a desert island.
One of two things would happen.
They'd stick with their Western world garbage and perish.
Or they would all quickly align
to the natural baselines of humanity, the gender roles.
The men would build and hunt,
the women would gather and look after the sick,
and then they'd survive.
The closer you are to survival, the more important you are. The more important it is that you align to your gender role, because if you don't, you don't have a chance'd survive. The closer you are to survival, the more important you are.
The more important is that you align to your gender role,
because if you don't, you don't have a chance to survive.
So in countries where it's harder to survive,
the more traditionalistic.
It's only in very, very privileged societies,
can we pretend that you do not need a man
who can protect himself and others?
So that's a very privileged society, right?
So I think when you have a hard life
and you've lived a life on edge,
you're naturally going to be inclined, inclining towards those things, towards reality and towards
conservative values and towards traditionalism because that you know that gives you the highest
chance of survival. I have a highest chance of survival if I focus on doing X and I am this type
of person and the woman next to me is this type of person and that gives us the best chance.
And that makes me the best chance.
And that makes me a traditionally masculine male
and her a traditionally feminine female,
especially living a difficult life.
Does that make sense?
So, and especially in many parts of the world
that's still true today.
And most of the world that's still true today,
we're talking on these podcasts
to extremely privileged individuals.
We wanna sit and throw away 98% of how the world functions
to say it's bullshit, and come along with this brand new
Think they've invented for the last 15 years and I say this often I say you find me dangerous
That I say I said something that's got me in a lot of trouble. So I'll say it again
I said that if I had to fly if I was gonna go on a plane that was gonna fly through the eye of a hurricane and
There was a 50% chance of it crashing
I would prefer a male pilot than a female pilot
if I'm going to just lost her mind
call me a such an instinct I said no
I think that men are calmer under pressure
I'm not saying the pilot assuming they have the same skill
I'm talking about just the pressure of the plane crashing
in my experience
men are calmer under mortal pressure than a woman
would be.
She might panic and then we're definitely going to die.
I'm not saying she would panic.
I'm not saying all women would panic.
I'm saying if I had to choose male pilot or female pilot for this semi-suicide mission,
I would choose a male pilot.
That's my life experience, right?
Everyone will attack me for that, but that's just a life I've lived.
My extension,
if I had to drop my children off at nursery, I want to drop my all-female nursery. I'd never
drop my three-year-old or four-year-old kid if I had one at an all-male nursery. That'd be weird.
So to me, this is how most of the world still functions. This is how the Western world function
till 10 or 15 years ago. And I say these things that I'm vilified, but I truly believe I wouldn't be so
popular and not so many people would resonate with me if large swath of the population didn't go
way up kind of a point, I guess. I don't think it's that bad. I think a lot of the world is still
quite conservative, even in the West, is just a very, very vocal minority that have all the control
of the narrative that are trying to convince the world otherwise. I think the majority of even
real happy relationships demands a man-to-man woman's woman. I think the majority of even real happy relationships demands a man, the woman's a woman.
I think that's a pretty standard, perhaps I'm wrong.
But in my experience, certainly.
No, I think it would be interesting.
You know, a lot of your audience, I mean, it's wide.
If you said 18 to 25 year old men, women too.
Yeah.
I think it would be amazingly interesting
if you sat down with a room of 80 year olds.
Yeah.
80 year old men and women. And you know what these people are called in America.
They're older than baby boopers, you know what they're called, that generation.
Not a traditionalist.
Oh, there you go.
Okay.
I'd be very curious to know what old people would have to say about tape.
I doubt that any of the older women, or the older men would try to be canceling tape
to be like, yeah, that's, but everything we've ever known.
But this is the thing that's interesting because the feminist narrative, when I say things,
like the male pilot, for example, the feminist narrative is that I'm a controlling man who wants
control over women. The actual truth is I'm a protective man who wants to protect.
And being a man in a position of protecting is not always a good thing.
I feel indebted and have a duty to myself and my honor. Meaning that if I'm walking down the street with a beautiful
woman and three men want to attack her, I have to risk my life now. I can't live my life
letting my wife get gang raped on a fucking street and running away. I can't take it as
a man. So I have to now die. I have to die or try, I have no choice.
So that's my duty, but they'll ignore that part.
They'll ignore the part where I risk my life, right?
And they'll say, oh, but you just want to be controlling
with such a nist of, no, no, I have a duty to protect.
I'm calmer under pressure because I've been in more unfortunate
situations.
I've had more trauma in my life, which is train me to be more
calm under pressure.
I would hate to meet a woman who's been through as much trauma as I have.
I love the kind of, that would make a good woman.
I don't think women need trauma at that level.
I don't want women who've been stabbed.
There's no need for that, but I have been through it.
So I think that in my experience, extrapolation,
that men who are successful, a lot of them have been through enough to meet
to trust the more in a high pressure situation.
And like I said, this comes with massive responsibility.
This comes with massive detriment and downsides, right?
And the feminist is like, no, you're controlling, it's not about controlling.
It's about duty.
There was no feminist on the Titanic.
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they have to stay in fight not single feminists is demanding that the women stay in fight
not a single one they don't give a fuck when it turns real
once it turns hot that it's whoo straight up when you want sandwich
sure well what do you want to say sir what do you need
then it all goes back the closer you are to the real world,
the closer people instantly get into their gender roles.
Because otherwise they get annihilated in real time.
That's another thing I said.
When I was getting called a misogynistic
and I was arguing with them and I said,
traditionally men are the leaders.
And in ancient societies, men were in charge.
That's because men are oppressive.
You've oppressed us forever.
That's their narrative.
Their narrative is that we've oppressed women forever said no
We've protected and provided you forever the reason we are leaders is because if we align with our gender roles
A man's more likely to lead and that gives us a more competitive chance in the old and world
Where all the empires were currently fighting if you're not as competitive as possible?
We're gonna be annihilated. I would argue that perhaps there were some civilizations where women were in charge. But we don't know who they are,
and we can't discuss their history because they were fucking annihilated. In real time,
by the ones where the men were in charge, because you are hyper-competitive, you're at your
optimum when men are in charge. That's just the optimum of the gender roles. That's the
way it really works. I don't believe we've been oppressing you since the dawn of human
time. I disagree. I believe we've been oppressing you since the dawn of human time. I disagree.
I believe we've been working hard protecting providing for you.
If men were truly oppressive to women, why don't we send the women to war?
Women on women, it's fair, right?
We can send all the women to war in Ukraine, all the women to war in Russia, they can die,
and we can chill, and we can go to Warsaw and drink vodka.
We don't do that.
The men of Ukraine and the men of Russia are dying to protect their women.
And then they want to sit and say that we're bad.
It's a completely skewed worldview.
Whenever they come along and say that we're oppressive and that we have the most money in all this bullshit,
it's a lie.
We are going out of our way and giving up our lives to protect and provide.
And this is where it comes to some of the other things that they said against me.
I've said, a man has a degree of authority over something he has responsibility for.
They took this and they used it and said, I think that man has authority over women.
It's not what I said.
I said, if I have responsibility for something, I must have a degree of authority over
that thing.
If I have a car, if it were to be parked in the wrong place or for me to drive too fast,
whatever, whatever, for me to be responsible for the actions of that car, it must be my car.
If it's parked in the wrong place but it's not mine and I'm not allowed to drive it,
then I'm not held accountable.
For me to be accountable, I have to have responsibility by extension.
That gives me a degree of authority.
So what I was saying is, if a woman comes to me and lives with me and I pay the bills
and she travels the road with me and she flies on jets and we go to boats and she's taken care of.
I'm responsible for her safety if we walk the street at night.
I ensure her life is in perfect order.
I have a degree of authority where I can say you're not going to go out and night by
yourself, it's dangerous.
Or we're not going to go to this country right now, it's dangerous.
That's a degree of authority that I have that comes with my responsibility from a protective
manner that does not mean I am oppressive, that does not mean I'm misogynistic.
It just means that responsibility and accountability are linked and they can't
be decoupled. A captain goes down with the ship because the captain is responsible for what happens
on the ship. If the captain gives orders and everyone ignores him then he isn't going to
go down with the ship doesn't. He is he has authority because he is responsible. Two things are the same and once again people have misunderstood then he isn't that bad. And when the ship doesn't, he is authority because he is responsible.
Two things are the same.
And once again, people have misunderstood what I've said.
And that's what I said, and a healthy relationship,
perhaps in my relationships.
I'll talk from a personal perspective
to that I can't be attacked.
In my relationships, I am responsible
for the emotional security and for the physical security
and the physical responsibility,
the physical security of any woman I'm with.
And by extension, I have a degree of authority over her to make sure that we, as a couple, proceed and progress in the best
possible way.
It's not going to be 50-50 if I'm in charge of the most important things.
It's going to be like, listen, I love you very much.
I respect what you're saying, and you're totally right about this.
But on this one point, I'm sorry, I'm going to be the man we're doing it this way.
We're going to go to trouble.
By the way, we're here.
Like I think we're all here, but you've got to in trouble, by the way, we're here. Like I think we're all here,
but you've got to in trouble
because the analogy you use is like,
you compare women to children or to animals
and say, I have responsibility over my child
or over my dog.
And then people take the short clip and like,
he thinks that women are like children
or women like animals.
The children, yeah.
The children one, the children one was actually interesting
because that was a slightly different one.
With children, I was making a joke
and it was semi-saturable, but like all my things I'm not gonna make jokes
anymore because Zuckerberg gets upset, deletes me.
But I made a joke saying that when I travel quickly I like to travel with just men.
If I'm going to a place for a week I'll take women, fine.
But if I have to hit let's say four countries and two days on the jet I like to only take
men.
And they said why?
And it was a joke we're all sitting on a podcast.
They said, well, traveling to the woman's,
like traveling like kids.
They get hungry, they have bags, they need the toilet.
With men, it's just military, in out, boom, no sleep,
in out, boom, no sleep, pack the bag, no sleep on the jet,
no sleep, no sleep, no, you're gonna be military,
you can get a dump.
That's what I said, right?
We have our marina over here, right?
Okay, that's what I said.
Yeah, what I take my girlfriend, she's like,
oh, we haven't slept in two days.
I'm really, really hungry.
And you're like, oh, so large.
It's just different.
So, and I guess taking out context
and they don't accept the joke.
It's a joke, to a degree, it's a joke.
I mean, I still mean what I say,
but to a degree, it's a joke.
The analogy of sexism.
That's a question for you.
If how much different, like, you know the story told about,
one day you come home, your dad comes up and says, Andrew, I'll see you in a couple weeks.
And he's out, right? In the context of what happens when there is a conflict, and we all
react in three different ways, fight, flight, freeze. In that context, your dad is flight.
Yeah. Here on Zavzad, I don't want to deal with it. I'm out of here. I'm a Dumas on
thing. Okay. In America, a lot of that is happening right now.
We're two, single parents, single parent household,
kids are being raised without a mom and that being there.
And it's just one mom, you know,
mom trying to do both and these boys, you know,
my mom couldn't tell me what to do
from a very once my parents got a divorce.
I'm a single mother raising me,
I've seen my dad every other week.
So it's not like he has direct influence
to discipline me until I went into the military.
Yeah.
How much of that, like if you were to go back
and think about, what if your dad didn't take the flight
approach?
What if your dad took the fight approach?
What if your parents were together?
Would it have made a difference in you?
And how do you view, you know, the idea of
fathers being there with mom and dad together family,
nuclear family, nuclear because a lot of times, you know,
marriage no longer has, you know, the, the, the, what it once had, you know, like kids are better off
being raised with a mom and dad. How do you process that yourself? Because you begin successful in that being in that environment.
Correct.
So do you see it as well?
It depends.
There's exceptions to the rule.
How do you process it?
I think it's a fantastic environment and I think an idealistic world, that's the way
it would be.
I think the reason it's not happening today is that I don't think many men actually benefit
from marriages or relationships anymore.
And people are always gonna have to require
some degree of incentive.
I think that we've set up the world now in a way
where men are seen as worker droids.
They're expected to go work all day, come home,
clean up as well, share the cleaning with the woman,
not have any, not no meal prepared for them,
not have any authority over the household,
and just be a worker droid and be a sad.
And I don't think that many people understand that men are intrinsically wired to desire
respect amongst our peers and in our environments.
This is why CEOs work so hard because they get respect in their company.
This is why we all want so much money and fast cars and state as an influence because
we're respected.
Men desire respect like we desire oxygen.
And if a man's coming home to a household where he doesn't feel any respect,
he's not going to want to be there for very long.
And I think the way you fix this is you need to understand that
many men don't have an incentive to be in the house anymore.
I think that it's actually would be quite easy for a woman.
In fact, there's a couple women who even say this on YouTube.
I don't remember the names, but it'd be quite easy for a woman. In fact, there's a couple women who even say this on YouTube. I don't remember the names, but it'd be quite easy for a woman to make a man really happy
with super basic things.
Just go up to your husband and say, hey, you know more about this.
What do you think about this?
That would make most men's world.
There's so many sexless marriages out there with men who work their ass off,
and they come home to a sexless marriage and kids who don't fucking even like them.
If you were to just even ask him this question about some ass-in-eye bullshit,
a long lower purchase, what's happening?
If you would feel so happy to feel like the man of the house,
that's what men need.
They need to feel like all this work I'm putting in,
all this shit I'm going through, I'm respected for it.
As soon as a man feels like he has no respect,
that's the absolute end of a man's interest
or a man's tolerance of a situation. I think this the reason it's happening
I think I know a lot of men who completely love their wives. They love them with all their heart
They die for her
But he's just not respected in his house
He doesn't get to be the man of the house. Is it on him or is it on her like does he need to go earn it or is it?
Unheard to provide it. It's a combination of both
I think it's certainly on him to earn it
But also the matrix programming is counter to him the matrix programming is trying to tell him that he shouldn't be allowed to be the man of the house.
That he shouldn't be allowed to have any kind of authority in any regard. He shouldn't be allowed
to be able to say what happens. The Matrix programming is saying the absolute opposite all the time.
And if that's getting into your woman and you don't have that much influence and that's getting
told your children, you don't have that much influence, now you're coming home to a household,
where everyone just thinks you're the dude who should just block your work You're just a worker to where you're the slate you're the robot and your feelings don't matter and your authority doesn't matter and get fucked
And this is this is very conscious if you watch any Netflix show the mother is the smart one and the man is the bumbling idiot
Turn our show I dare turn on a family show the mother is the one. Hey, hey calm down
I'm smart and the man's look who beer
Watch any of these shows.
Felt like a sense of...
All of it has made the show very...
Any of it, all of it.
They're reducing the man to just bumpling at it.
And it's very hard, I think, for a lot of men
to accept being a position of constant disrespect.
I'll tell you this now,
if I had to choose a long lasting marriage
with a woman who loved me
or a woman who truly respected me, I might choose respect. Over love. Even though they're the same thing for a woman who loved me or a woman who truly respected me, I might choose respect.
Over love, even though they're the same thing for a woman because she loves you, she respects you
by default. But if I had to choose, I'd choose respect. I've been through too much and work too hard
and go through too much in day-to-day life to come home to my house and be having battles over
Asinine bullshit. I take care of you and I love you with all of my heart. I would die for you.
If someone broke into this house,
I would engage the invader and die.
I'd please just cook dinner, please.
What do you want from me?
What more can I do for you?
And once they feel disrespected,
there's another thing about the world
that a lot of people don't understand.
It's disrespect that will drive a man
to the most heinous of crimes. It's disrespect that will drive a man to the
most heinous of crimes. It's disrespect that starts to school shoot or bullshit. It's disrespect
that makes men go to jail for life sentences. It's disrespect. When you truly disrespect
the man in a public and permanent way, that's when they switch. That's why I'm so respectful
in public. You don't know who to fuck your talk into. He might go to his last fucking
straw and you just disrespect it. Hey, you're a fucking bitch anyway. You don't know who to fuck your talk to. He might be on his last fucking straw. And you just disrespect him,
hey, you're a fucking bitch anyway.
You skinny motherfucker, fuck you.
You don't know.
That might be the last time you heard it.
I've had enough.
You don't know.
Disrespect is dangerous, right?
And in a household where you're constantly
disrespecting a man, he's gonna end up depressed
and sad for even accepting it.
Men just wanna feel respected.
It's not that hard to do.
If a woman, if you truly assist anyone watching this,
if you truly love your man,
it would be so easy for you to just make him feel respected.
It doesn't even take action.
You can do it with basic words,
ask his opinion on something,
big enough once in a while,
and because we're supposed to be Superman
and we purport ourselves as Superman and we're stoic,
but we talk to her about how we still feel everything.
So when you're a strong man, especially, they're like,
ah, he's fine.
He's fine.
He's fine.
Be nice to the dude.
You'd be surprised how far you get.
But this is why I think most men walk out marriages.
Because they're like, you know what, I'm not getting any respect
here.
I get more respect from this dickhead stripper 18-year-old hoe
for throwing money at her than I do given money to my own wife.
Where am I being respected?
Well, at least she's smiling at me.
She's smiling at me in years.
And it gets to a point where it's just like, well, I want to feel respected now.
I'm working my ass off.
I'm out here on the streets.
I'm going to the sewers and shit.
Where's my respect at?
And that's what I think it really comes down to.
I think men function on respect.
And respect is the number one trigger that I'll make a man do heinous crimes.
And it's also the thing that will make us do the bravest, most honorable things. What did I say about protecting my wife and friends with a raper in a situation on the street?
I can't respect myself and I won't be respected by society if I don't die
So I will stand and die. I can't do it because myself respect and respect of the world. No, that's a tate's girl and he ran away
I can't take it.
I have to die.
I can't live that way.
So it's like, it's like honor.
It's like, Hyro-Kari, or whatever the Japanese thing would
disorder.
You can't take the dishonor of losing.
Absolutely.
They commit suicide.
So respect is so intrinsic to men and a lot of society is
forgotten.
And that's why I also think my message is resonating because
I'm teaching men, look, yeah, your life's shit. Yeah, you need to be respected. Yeah, teaching men look. Yeah, your life's shit.
Yeah, you need to be respected.
Yeah, here's how.
Oh, but that's hard.
Of course it is.
Let's go.
So I think that's what it is.
So I agree with you.
I love the idea.
But the reason that it's ending is because in traditionalistic families, women respected
the man.
As soon as the respect's gone, now men don't want to be there anymore.
They want to go find a new woman who respects him.
Or run around and do dumb shit. Or run around with their boys. Their a respect gone. Now men don't want to be there anymore. They want to go find a new woman who respects him. Or run around and do dumb shit.
Or run around with their boys.
Their boys respect them.
Women say, why is my man always out on the street?
Because on the street he's respected.
But his boy is he something.
When he's home, what is he?
You don't respect him.
He wants to go be amongst the respect.
That's why men do the shit they do.
Dangerous shit.
Light-striving shit.
Gang banging.
How many times you heard a gangster say, I'll go shoot respects my name it's respect is a different is a whole different
dynamic we've forgotten the respect inside of relationships and this is why
so many men are just losing interest completely and then yes down
respire or you're completely right and then the woman's left by herself and the
boys the boys are trying to get respect somewhere they end up getting on the
street crime but it's all just downhill would you ever would you ever consider
getting married to one woman and building an actual
Family nucleus like the traditional way would you do it since you don't have to worry about you know garnering respect?
That's a good question. It's certainly something I will consider and something I would do
It's not something I'm completely not really at verse two
The problem with the main problem would be doing it is the way that a lot of legality has been set up.
I don't like the way the government is doing things, but let's say I already get married religiously,
perhaps not governmentally.
Sure, religiously.
Yeah, absolutely.
And if I met the right woman, sure, I'd absolutely not do it.
But in my marriage, if I meet a woman and I marry her and I take care of her,
and I make sure she has a fantastic life, and I raise her, and I nurture her, and our children, et cetera.
I'm still always gonna be the man who says,
listen, I'm a way this weekend,
and I'm not gonna come home too much of fucking yelling.
I'm just gonna be that guy, I have a way.
This lipstick, oh, I'm gonna give her a white lie.
Tristan had my shirt on, some bullshit.
Just eat it, shh, move on.
Like, that's who I am, right?
But, oh and all, yeah, I am completely a proponent for love.
I believe in a man loving a woman.
I don't think many women understand how deeply men love.
Love is real.
What's that feeling, Troy?
That was about a chick.
They're fucking warring tribe, the warring countries.
Love is real is absolutely a real thing, but what we want in return, more than even love
back is respect.
We want to be respected by the woman we love.
That's what we want. And I think if the women who truly understand that are the
smart ones and also the dangerous ones because I've met some female players out of Ukraine and
Moldova and they're pretty sharp. They know the game and they know exactly what to do to get the
billionaire. And I've seen them pull it off. So I'll see how it happens. It's funny. I'm talking to
Magic Johnson, okay. And this is six, seven years ago.
And the conversation comes up about AIDS, HIV.
I said, you know, there's a couple of moments as a kid that I clearly remember.
One was when Jordan retired, one was when Tupac died, and the other one was when you got
HIV, because I'm in LA.
I mean, I'm like a magic fan.
And I said, when that came out, and all the rumors, the past, all this stuff, I said, you know,
what major marriage work.
And this is interesting, his answer.
He says it very quickly, and I don't even think people got it.
It's because she's smart.
So what do you mean she's smart?
Because she's smart.
You know, they've been married together till today.
They're still together.
Oh, magic is still with his wife.
I mean, you imagine magic stories with, you know, Hugh Hefner and the Playboy Mansion and
the part 80s, not these people.
Social media, I can imagine, you know, and what he did, but they're still together.
Who does a credit go through there?
Does a credit go through him?
Does it go through her?
Who does a credit?
That's what he was saying.
He's saying credit goes to her
for the family. Now some may say while looking at how the family turned out, you know,
look at the kids because you see the criticism that comes out of one of his sons. You know,
it's like, hey, look how this turned out. You know, it looks like it's maybe working out,
but you don't get no to symptom count. Like one day if you have kids and you decide to bring
kids into the world, you're sitting there, you're thinking about the long-term consequences because you don't know what they're going to pick
up, what they're not going to pick up, what they're going to turn against you, what they
are going to turn.
It's super interesting because without wanting to tell another long story about my dad,
I believe now that I've analyzed that my father sacrificed his marriage for me interested
because I think that there was times of massive contention with my mother where he was so principled and so concerned with our upbringing as men that he
sacrifices marriage with my mom for us. Keep out the divorce. Yeah, so I'll give you a
very quick example. I'll tell you a very quick story that surmises it. So they were
still together when they when we moved to England, my father's still in America, he came
over to visit. And my mom said to me a couple of days
for her, it comes to your dad's coming,
we're gonna be a haircut.
And I always wanted about 12 or something.
Went to get a haircut, went to our normal hairdresser,
hairdresser wasn't there, got some other hairdresser,
cut my hair, whatever, whatever.
And we got back to the house,
and I'm like, I don't like how she cut your hair,
she cut your hair wrong, she cut your hair wrong.
And I'm only 12, right?
So I'm like, yeah, she cut my hair wrong,
she cut my hair wrong. So when my dad came, my? So I'm like, yeah, she cut my hair wrong, she cut my hair wrong.
So when my dad came, my dad turns off,
he's only there for a couple hours,
I haven't seen him in nearly six months.
I said, oh, my mom said, I hate the way they cart my hair,
and my dad, and I said, yeah, they cut my hair wrong,
and my dad lost his temper.
He said, what the fuck are you doing?
You're raising my son's to bitches,
what the fuck are my haircuts?
I leave you here with my boys,
and you're talking about,
do you tell them to worry about their haircut?
They're fucking men, who cares about their hair? Haircut doesn't matter. When they grow into men, to tell them to worry about their haircut. They're fucking men who cares about hair.
Hair cut doesn't matter.
When they grow to men,
no one's gonna care what their hair looks like.
Their haircuts are stupid.
And I'm like, well, no, Emory,
it's just she cut it wrong to the end of my dad.
I was like, listen, I trust you in my boys
and you fucking cut the hair on.
So they've gone some big argument.
So I'd only seen my dad for three hours at this point
in the fucking six months.
They got a big argument,
my mom kicked him out the house.
So we left the house, right? So he went to the hotel and then the next day he called me,
he goes, I can't come to the house, your mom doesn't want me there.
Come to me.
And I came to him and we went to the hairdresser and I was only 12.
So this is a traumatic experience, right?
I cried my eyes out.
I don't know why I cried, but I was upset.
He goes, come with me, boys and white,
goes, you learn when you're older, you're going to understand when you're older.
You're going to shave your head.
And I was like, how do I want to shave my head? He goes, listen, you're 12, you're a kid when you're older. You're gonna shave your head. And I was like, how do I want to shave my head?
It goes, listen, you're 12, you're a kid,
nobody cares about your hair.
Come here, send me that thing,
I've had my head shaved by the thing.
And I went home, my mom went, fucking crazy.
This is the story she recited to his death
about how crazy my dad was.
This damn-re-scrazy made him shave his head.
He's so crazy, that is so crazy.
But when I shave my head, my dad said,
listen, you're gonna grow into a man and you're gonna learn.
There's so many things that society expects of you that there's so many things that society expects of you
And there's so many things that people expect of you and there's so many things people are gonna care about and the last thing
On the list is gonna be your haircut. They're not gonna give a solitary fuck
I'm not gonna have you being raised in your haircut now
So I people always say I'll why my bald right so I had hair till about three four years ago
And I was remembering this story some after this story with my mom mom and father, my mom went nuts, call my dad crazy.
He went back to America.
So some three hours after six months,
because of this hair cut thing,
because he was so principled, didn't give a shit.
So I'll sit in a hairdresser,
and I was waiting the guy in front of me,
and he had his hair cut,
and the guy in front of me, he goes,
oh, finish, and he goes,
oh, excuse me, can you just a little bit here,
and the top, just a little bit in the top,
and here and here.
I'm sitting there, and I'm just on my phone, I'm like,
who gives a little bit of a millimeter, and here and here. I'm sitting there, and I'm just on my phone, I'm like, who gives a little bit?
A millimetre, bro, you're ugly anyway.
You're ugly.
A millimetre?
He cares.
And he messed around for like 10 minutes,
fucking with his hair.
So when it was my turn, I sat down,
it wasn't my normal barber.
He goes, hey, how do you want your hair cut?
And I remember the story, and I just couldn't,
I was like, bro, shake off.
Like, I'm a millionaire, kickboxing world champion.
Who gives a fuck about my hair?
I haven't had hair since.
You're ready to, you're ready to, you're ready to.
You just shave your head.
I just shave off that.
I could grow full head hair.
I just shave off.
Yeah, I could, yeah.
You just prefer to be a bald guy.
No, I did it at that day and ever since,
I've just been like, oh, it's just easy.
I can go anywhere.
Shave it off, shave it off, shave it off.
But that's an example of my father would destroy
his relationship with my mother
to try and teach me interesting
things. And I have so many examples of that. They're their biggest arguments were almost him being too
principled about me and Tristan and my mother trying to be like, Emory, that's crazy. Or Emory, let him go
to sleep. Emory, he didn't, he doesn't want to play chess. Emory, sometimes on my dad was like, no,
but he is going to be this way. He has my name. So you can live house if you want, Eileen.
He's doing this.
So I think a lot of his relationship breakdown
was actually because he was so principled on us.
Which is quite a unique perspective, I guess.
So he sacrificed his marriage, I think, in many ways.
You know, it's funny.
You always shaved your head.
For years and years and years and years,
you had no hair.
Now look at this beautiful head.
I don't know how handsome he is.
I would prefer this. I know you know,
I would prefer this. But this guy spends $72 to cut his hair every day. Yeah. Yeah.
Five years. My hair was like that. I told four years ago, five years ago. So what are your
thoughts? Let's transition. Let's transition to your, you're putting the truth together. Yeah.
Okay. Everybody has running mates. Like this main main guys, I used to phrase
running mates where Tristan's your runner mate, your his runner mate, and then you got
all the people. So there's a levels to running mates, right? So you got acquaintances, you
got, you know, friends, you got best friends, then you got running mates. Running mates
is a handful. It's not that many. And when you create that kind of an environment, there's a very mutual understanding of what
the standards are to be at this level.
You can go to dinner and shoot the shit and talk to anybody, and you know, hey, how you
don't know how great men are.
So I'm like, man, great, awesome, family, good, everybody, good, great.
And then there's the next one and the next one and the next one. And the next one and some people try to become too friendly
too soon and it's a little awkward,
relax a little bit, let a couple of years go by
and then we'll see where this thing goes.
For your end, what code, not you and take,
because not you and Tristan, set that one aside.
I'm talking about anybody else, non-blood.
And I'm not even talking cousin by the way,
I'm talking non-blood. Anybody that's non-blood, that I'm not even talking cousin, Bob, I'm talking non-blood. Yeah.
Anybody that's non-blood, that's in the inner circle of tape and it's a handful of people
on that list. What are some codes? All of you follow? That's a non-negotiable.
Absolutely. That's a fantastic question. And I know exactly how to answer it.
So the first things first is I do not like to hang around with men who suffer from a lack
of women because in my experience,
any man who can't get women will eventually sell you out for women.
It's too powerful a force.
Too powerful a force.
If you're completely sex deprived all the time, sooner or later you're going to sell
your boys out for sex, whether it's his ex or some girl talking bad about your boy, but
you really want to post-easy, you let her slide.
If you're not good with girls, I don't want to talk to you.
Second thing is money.
You have not be rich rich, but if you're starving, you're going to with girls, I don't want to talk to you. Second thing is money. You have not be rich, rich, but if you're starving,
you're gonna try and sneak some money out of somebody, right?
If you can't eat, you'll do anything for food.
You can't pay the bills or you're anything for money.
That means whether it's a plea bargain,
whether it's trying to rob me,
whether it's money sitting around my house.
I don't want to talk to extremely broke people.
I don't want to talk to extremely sex deprived people
for the same reason.
I wouldn't have a whole bunch of food around a 100 person.
Same reason. So first two have a whole bunch of food around a hundred percent. Same reason.
So first two things.
The next thing is loyalty.
And I know that's super hard to judge, but I really like to believe that the few people
I hang around with, if we were all in separate police interviews and they were to come and
say, Hey, your boy turned.
I can literally burst out laughing.
You better come with a new story.
Go away and think about it and come back.
We can talk, but don't try that one.
Try again. So loyalty is very, very important. Next is bravery because camp fight is fine,
but won't fight is won't fight is unacceptable in everyone. If I'm with my five friends and I'm
going toilet in the club and I come back and I see someone punch one of my friends. I am annihilating
anybody in that guy's group. We'll find out why later. My guy could have been wrong.
My guy could have been, my guy's fault. I'm just hitting him, him, him, him, him. I'm
snorkeling everyone. When everyone's asleep and the threat is neutralized, I'm like, bro,
the fuck is that? But though I started,, I started. I'm fucking. Well, first, we're getting this video.
First, people have to pay.
Right? We'll worry about the wives afterwards.
So they have to have that loyalty and that devotion
to the bravery, the ability to fight.
I find it very crazy.
I find it crazy.
And I say this often to guys.
So you're rolling around with these men
who won't even fight to protect you because they're coward.
So they'll watch you get your head stomped to death
and coward out and not even try and help you.
And they're like, yeah, but he's funny.
But he's funny.
We're talking about life and death.
You're talking about fucking funny.
So if I can smell on someone that they wouldn't even attempt,
I don't wanna be anywhere near them, the same reason.
And general professionalism, I've developed a habit where I punish myself for the smallest
in professional actions.
If I misplace my keys or misplace my phone and it takes me more than 10 minutes to find
it, I'll punish myself for that.
For dogs, whether I don't spend money this week or I don't go here or I'm canceling
that or I'm going to defer buying something I want to buy, I punish myself religiously so that next time I put my phone down,
I know where I put my phone.
Next time I put it down, I know where I put it.
All the time. When I put it down, I know where my phone is.
So when I'm around people, like,
hey, I lost my keys or I broke off for God,
then when I'm around sloppy people, I don't like it.
I like people who have their lives in order.
When I detect sloppiness, I don't really want them too closely.
Because gaps are where things sneak in. Other things are basic off-second. I like people who have their lives in order. When I detect sloppiness, I don't really want them too close.
Because gaps are where things sneak in.
Other things are basic opsec.
Really basic opsec.
I like that if I'm around my friends,
if I'm ever sitting with my back to a room,
this is an enclosed environment that a normal restaurant,
I never sit with my back to a room.
But if I have to do it, I like that my,
I never do it, but if I have to do it,
the people I roll with, they'll literally give me a nod. We'll sit down at dinner and I have to
sit here. They'll go, and they'll pay extra attention for me because I can't see behind me.
I like that level of professionalism. I like that. I like people like I said, don't we get we,
no hangovers, no crying their eyes out, no cowardice, it's infectious. Don't like that round me.
No negativity. Don't like that round.
So there's certain things that I create a very, very particular reality, and it's actually
interesting because to me these things are all normal, but when you have these kind of
standards, you're pretty hard to find friends.
You're like, oh, you're a dumbass.
You're a pussy.
You're like, you don't talk to that many people, but if you get a crew together that act
that way, it's amazing how not to get all airy fairy,
but it's almost intangible.
When you have six men in one place who are perspicacious,
who are paying attention, who do have their things right,
who don't lose things, who do, the whole room can smell it.
When me and my crew walk in a room,
even if it's almost like an energy,
some guy can be eaten his dinner
and I can see us walk in and go,
six predators, it's like the rabbit,
when the fox comes, you can smell when the guy's turn on.
Do you know what I mean?
And everyone's experienced, everyone's seen it.
So anyone I associate with, I have these very,
very stringent metrics in there basically,
just to make sure that nobody gets inspired
by something they can't resist to snake us.
And also nobody's overly sloppy and allows a way for us to be infiltrated and destroyed.
And one of the easiest ways that people, especially in the modern world today, especially
people in my position, are infiltrated and destroyed are women.
So with women, I create that very heavily.
If you get a guy who's thirsty and he's on your crew, let's say I have problems with
another crew, let's say.
And I know they have a member who's thirsty.
That is the easiest job in the world.
You get one hot bitch to Instagram message.
You're gonna find out where they are, what they're doing,
where they've been, the hotel room right now.
It's fucking dumb deal.
You can do whatever you want to dem it is, right?
You go, I have guys who can turn that shit down.
I've had a bunch of times in my life,
where I've been in countries.
I was in Sofia, Bulgaria.
I'll talk to this girl, she's like, hey, that it should 10 out of 10. I've been talking to her for a few weeks.
Okay, let's meet at this place. I'm like, ah, let's go here. No, no, this is my favorite
place to go here. And I was like, no, I'll turn and put you down. I could have been wrong.
Could have been right. Could have been right. We're never going to know. I'll turn it down.
But if you have that guy in your crew, hey bro
She's so hot, bro. So hot
That's problems for you and him and everyone else. So you got to be very careful with the kind of life you're living
But if you live with people have their eyes lives in order is important
But professionalism is also a really big one. I see people who are sloppy. It makes me very uncomfortable
Just general sloppy. I can't explain it when somebody when a girl is your girl
Are you telling her anything?
Or is it a understanding, like,
hey, listen, these are some things that I follow
and you either are okay with this or you're not,
but I'm not compromised in these things.
Do you have those conversations
when a girl is your main girl?
Yeah, so I've had relationships with women
for five or six years and they never knew my job.
And I'll just say to them, look, it's, if you know things, even though I don't do
anything wrong, but if you know even who I associate with, you know things,
then you have to lie. Why is it the easier if you just don't know? Then you got
lie, right? So let's just, I'm working. Let's work. Work's work. We're on a jet.
We're on a jet. It's harder to do. Right? So I keep certain things from them because it makes it easier than them having to worry about false're on a jet. You're on a jet. You're on a jet. You're on a jet, right?
So I keep certain things from them because it makes it easier than them having to worry about
false narrative or a lie in the event of whatever or if we break up, then we then walk, right?
So I'm very careful of that.
I'm very, very careful who I talk around as well.
Like if there's random like on the yacht, me trusting in my cousin, we were just with
30 girls in the yacht, we didn't talk this as long.
We talked this is one night, but it was asleep.
A couple times, like Luke went to go,
hey man, I'll message you.
We'll be sitting the same room, what's happened?
This is people.
Loose lips, sink ships.
Doesn't matter if you're doing nothing wrong.
You gotta be careful who you're talking around.
They listen into shit.
And in the modern world, they record shit.
Like you don't want to do it.
What's even if it's a 0.1% chance,
but what's the upside?
Like there's no upside. So why take the 1% chance risk reward
You know, I'm very very careful and especially with women not because they're necessarily malicious
Because women in general don't have to worry about the certain things I'm talking about with terms of professionalism
There's a whole bunch of beautiful smart great women out there who just go through life
And they're just Instagram. I never where they go and if you're other keys and do do do do do do do do do do do
And if she's too close to your circle
She's just an in it's an in to get you if you're other keys and do do do do do do do do do. And if she's too close to your circle, she's just an in, it's an in to get you.
And you gotta be careful and it's amazing whether it's the 1970 Soviet spies or the 2022 mafia.
When they want to get a dude, it's a chick.
You either send a new chick or you watch his old chick or you find his girlfriend,
even a bounty hunter today.
Let's say I was wanting by the police and I couldn't find who's his girl.
But he's gone there.
But he needs some sex.
Go put a car there.
Every time, every fucking time.
You go, I keep this shit in order.
And the women I associate with have enough respect for me to go,
okay, I don't know.
Fine.
Just, I love you, I love you.
When I arrested El Chapo's girl, didn't you say I didn't know
it was a criminal?
I thought it was a chef, some shit.
I don't like it.
Even perfect, perfect. She doesn't even know how to lie anymore. He was a chef, some chef. I'm like, perfect, perfect.
She has to even lie anymore.
He's a chef, he told me to chef.
He's a chef. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, There is a degree of downside. I was in Moldova. No, I take that back. I was in Constantin Romania nine years ago before I moved
there. And I was in a club, and I must have been the only foreign person in the club, and there was
a 11 out of 10 Moldova girl, the most beautiful girl I'd ever seen. And I went over and I tried to
talk to her and she said, yeah, I only drink champagne. And at the time I didn't have that much
money. I said, oh, you only drink champagne.
Well, I'm finished drinking for the night.
It's very nice to meet you,
I couldn't afford to bought the champagne, so it's silent.
So it's like, I don't have an,
I just finished drinking for the night.
It's very nice to meet you, what's your name?
It's in, okay, basically.
Left the club, whatever.
Next day I came, I saw her on this table,
champagne show, champagne show, champagne show.
Next table, champagne show.
And while she was doing all this,
I was kind of catching each other's eye,
looking a little bit, that it, a a couple times I caught her at lunch,
consent to this like a beach town.
I caught her lunch, I spoke for a little bit.
And she kept asking me for champagne.
I was like, listen, you are absolutely gorgeous.
I think you and I are gonna have a long and happy future
together, but I'm not gonna buy you champagne.
I'll tell you why later.
I put mystery on it.
So I can't tell you, bro, right?
You got to put mystery space.
So I'm gonna tell you why I don't buy champagne later.
It's a long and interesting story. Once I can trust you, I wanna tell you why I want my champagne. You can trust me now. I will tell you.
Not yet. Styling off. Styling off. Styling off.
Anyway, as we go to know each other across the summer, eventually when we became friends, she came clean.
She works for the club. She has a commission on champagne. Of course. Of course.
The girls of the club, your buying champagne for this thing, she gets a commission per ball.
What was interesting is this,
she had on her phone a system.
So she'd meet you, you'd buy your drinks the first night.
You'd go a separate date the second night,
you'd buy her drinks.
Third day, she'd send a pre-decide already in her notes,
how you live far away and you can't fall in love again.
She's only been one man in her whole life. She falls in love with you, she's gonna have her heart broken and she's scared and then she'll ghost you for three days
Then eventually after begging you'll get her back
But she wants to come but not on her own because she's scared she wants to bring free friends and she'll go to this restaurant
She wants to bring this champagne
But when a commission commission commission and she'll show me on her Facebook message every dude playbook every fucking guy
One after another every night of the week. I'll just fall into the playbook, every fucking guy, one after another, every night of the week,
I'll just fall into the playbook, fall into the playbook.
So she's the only guy who never bought me champagne.
Like, yeah, well, I didn't tell her I had money
on my own since school.
I was like, I've been around the world,
I know some things.
So anyway, I played it all.
And she was sitting there telling me, yeah,
and when she was going through it,
she was scared to me, she goes, yeah, this guy on Facebook,
yeah, he's from Turkey and he does private airplanes
and did it, did it, did it.
And she's telling all their jobs, the money they're making, where they live, the
talent, because these dudes are sitting there talking, I'm so rich, baby, I'm so rich, I'm so rich,
you want champagne, I got it, I do this, I do this, I do this, I do this, and I'll sit there thinking,
whichever mall boss picks this girl up, is gonna have a whole bunch of targets to go rob it all
night long, because dudes just can't shut the fuck up. And this is when I was 24, 25.
Ever since then, I style it off.
What's your job?
Oh, I work, it depends where I am.
If I'm like in Romania, I say I make poppinache,
which is a Romanian doughnut.
So national food.
I say I make poppinache baby doughnut.
The poppinache, I'm number one.
I just style up.
Not even know my job.
Not even know who I do. Not even know. Because I don, no, Papa nice. You know, they know. So I'm very, very careful when it comes to talking to women for that reason.
So that was a lot of, so, so it's funny because when we met, when you're, you're, you're lady with you last night, she stood there.
Hi, this is my wife. Didn't say anything, know this, no
nothing, distance did an approach, didn't even entertain conversation. It's
not even something that was gonna happen. It's coming in the Muslim community
that's why I ask you, if there was anybody that had any influence over you on the
Muslim side. She is by coincidence Islamic. She is Muslim. Okay. She's half Turkish
Aframanian. But a lot of my women are kind of similar. They're like, oh, hi. And they don't really
talk too much. And that's just something I've asked them to do in a very polite way. So look, I
talked to lots of people and you guys are fine, right? But I'll tell the truth. I say, I talk to a lot
of unsavory people. I have a lot of people who know me, whose hands I shake, who are bad people,
bad people.
They don't need to know too much about me.
I don't even really want them to see you.
It's unfortunate and they catch me on the street
and you're with me, that's a bad time.
I wish it didn't happen.
Last thing you need to be doing is going to say,
hello, my name is this.
Don't talk to nobody.
And by extension, it's the same thing with violence.
I had a conversation with my girls as well.
My girls are completely trained.
I said, listen, if I'm ever attacked
or anything ever happens to me, run, scream and run.
Don't be trying to get in the way or say, don't hit him or some bullshit, just fucking
leave because I know dudes don't care that you're a chick.
You're gonna get out of here.
So I try and be as protective as possible.
I'll try and be controlling.
I just try and protect them from situations.
Just saying, all right, people like, hi, don't say your name.
They'll go over there.
I've knew him from here.
We've been together this long.
I'm from this country.
Just leave it. And some people can find it weird and rude. They'll go over there. Oh, I've knew him from here. We've been together this long. I'm from this country to
Leave it and some people can find it weird and rude
But I think I can Overall the people I know and I can style it off and I can understand why it is that way
And it's just a better dynamic for me. It's all I I respected you know, and then he said loyalty you said
You know, you know how to fight but you have to be well-in-a-fight
Absolutely, and if you know one cold we had I had a friend of mine
Who I told him I said listen guys
Here's how I wrote I said if your girl breaks up with you she calls me
I have nothing to talk to her about absolutely
I said if my girl breaks up with me and you're talking to you have nothing to talk to about
Absolutely zero because the number one revenge is to get with a friend to do that. So one time a guy you know,
his girl contacts me
and one after another, after another, after another,
and I just finally said,
we have nothing to talk about.
Absolutely.
He's the relationship not you.
Absolutely.
Some of these things, it's...
And that comes from a lack of thirst.
You have a thirst you do.
Yeah.
What happens there, right?
But it's also, it's also filtering process because once you see it, you're kind of like, yeah, that's not going to be a long-term
relationship. They're to lose lip situation. I had an assistant that
Every time I'm working on a big announcement that a month announced to everybody in a company a
Certain department when I said there's no way you could know this announcement. How do you know this announcement?
You know what speaker I'm launching Kobe Bryant?
One person I said how do you know this?
How do you know where Nelson Kobe Bryant is?
You know what speaker?
You know what speaker?
Kobe Bryant.
Finally I'm like, he can't be my sister.
Because even though you get excited, you got to keep it to yourself.
This isn't anybody else's business.
This is if you're on the inside, you're on the inside.
Nothing leaks to anybody else no matter what business dealings.
And this is the thing about emotionally, because you just nailed it, even with the best
possible intentions, if people are excitable, they're manipulatable, and they can be used.
This is why stoicism is so important.
Let's imagine a hypothetical situation you guys would have hand me a million dollars cash
right now.
I would sit and think, I'd say thank you, and I'd sit and think, am I going to go out
of this building alive? I wouldn't be like, wow, a million dollars. Oh. I would sit and think, I'd say thank you, and I'd sit and think, am I gonna go out of this
going on?
I wouldn't be like, wow, a million dollars.
Oh, I wouldn't get excited.
I'd be like, that's unusual.
Fuck.
That's what I think.
I'd poke or face it.
But that's what would go through my brain.
Because if I was excitable, wow, a million,
and you'll give me more, wow, that boom.
That's the end of the game, right?
You can't be excitable.
There's a time and a place when you're with very, very select people
in very, very private environments and be excited.
But otherwise, yeah, you're right.
People get excited and they talk too much and they get happy
and then it's fine as certain ashylong.
But once you've reached the upper echelons of life,
you have to really start analyzing risk award,
especially in the modern world, especially,
look at me now, right?
I just took a huge risk. I'm a misogynist, I'm evil and I just want to vote with 30 girls. If one of them were to
turn on me, imagine the bullshit that would have come as risk. That's a risk. And I had to analyze
the risk, had a conversation with all the girls in advance, made it clear they all had their own
separate bedrooms, but to operate extremely professionally, CCTV on the boat, I couldn't just be
some jackass. Let's all just go get drunk and Let me see if we can get drunk on the sex bath.
You have to be pro.
You have to be professional about things.
And the sloppy guy would have done that in my position.
I was like, oh, I got a boat.
I got a girl.
I got a booze.
I got money.
The end of the game.
It's really smart.
It's easier said than done.
It's easier to control the emotions
when it comes up to things like that.
Musk, you hear a story about Musk where his dad told them
the most important role of man has is to populate, right?
And he's got what?
I think he's got 10 kids now.
Eight kids now.
Did you see?
He just had another set of things.
Some ridiculous amount of number,
but he's trying to repopulate the planet,
and or Mars.
Yeah, this is 10 kids.
10 kids?
He's got 10 kids.
Yeah. You're talking about the richest man in the world
Possibly the smart one of the smartest agree brains in the world
One of the best trolls in the world
One of the most necessary forces in the world where the people that are not fans of you
You know can't stand him That's enemy to state number one.
They don't like the fact that he can just drop
44 billion dollars and to be able to buy Twitter
or do anything he's doing.
What do you think about Elon Musk?
Man, I love Elon.
And I love that he has, he is a man of purpose
and I have so much respect for men of purpose.
Most people who get his kind of paycheck whenever he got it
and the night he's would have just cashed out
head and is and bullshit. He decided to risk it all again to
try and achieve the most possible things. That's how you got to where you are, to where I got to
where I am. When you have enough to stop, but you don't stop. For some reason, there's some new
mountain to climb. And that is what's beautiful about men as a whole. All of the exploration on the
planet, the deep sea and Antarctica, now I've risked all of it,
was a man who had enough and thought,
no, I'm gonna go anyway.
And that's the wheel on it.
So I have so much respect for him
because he doesn't need to do any of the stuff he's doing.
And he's adopting the biggest problems in the world
and all the headache that comes with it,
you're right, all the heat and all the dislike
and all the pressure, he's adopting it anyway.
And those are the kind of men who need more of it.
The men who say, you know what? Yeah, I do have enough.
It's not about enough.
Who are some guys that you will put in that level?
What must?
Like must?
Well, must is must, right?
He's dependable, but who else would you put in that space?
I have respect for anyone who's kind of similar.
I'm trying to think of people who I idolize
and really look up to.
Some of them are fighters.
Like I always love Mayweather.
I think Mayweather's the best boxer in history.
Really? Yeah, I liked Mayweather is the best boxer in history. Really?
Yeah, I liked Mayweather.
It's a huge fan.
Best boxer in history.
Yeah.
A head of Ali.
Yeah.
I mean Ali is Ali, right?
But Mayweather's never lost.
He's never lost anybody.
And I liked him because he was so clinical and so precise.
And he took his ego out of it and said, I want to have a longer career than everyone else.
So I'm going to focus on knocking and hitting him.
I may not get the knockout.
All right? I don't need the knockout. I've won. Just win clinical chess, win payday, win payday.
You were fighting this bull ring. 100 bill, whatever, 100 mil, whatever, get four, it's cool.
Next, win, that I, it was really smart. So I like may weather someone I've always looked
up to and I really respect. That's a really good question. I think that it's kind of difficult now in the world because also a lot of the people
who are propagated to the top and perpetuated into absolute global stardom, I'm not sure
if all of them have done it through good intentions.
You can look at the things we said from Logan earlier, etc.
But I think even now I have the most respect for the common man.
I think I have so much respect for the common man. I think I have so much respect for the common man.
I say it all the time, it's a Tristan.
Me and him will have our most in-depth conversations
when we're in a S class on our way to the private jet
and we see a street sweeper at 3 a.m. in Romania,
no, he's getting 200 bucks a month.
I mean, if you will look at him and go,
I respect that.
Like, just a vendor are so many people out here
just living hard lives.
And I have so much respect for them.
And we can talk about the ones who make it,
but there's so many people who don't make it.
And that's difficult.
And I have so many stories.
I don't want to tell any more stories
that I can go on forever.
But even little things I do like at buffets,
nobody ever complements the shaft at buffets.
So whenever I go to a buffet, I try and say,
bro, did you cook this?
This is great. I did it in Cypress at buffets. So whenever I go to a buffet, I try and say, bro, did you cook this? This is this is great. I did it in Cyprus at some resort. I swear like I gave him a million bucks
to smile at you. He never been complimented. In 15 years of cooking meatballs, he was the happiest man
in the world because he just slags away for fucking nothing. And I think a lot of people are out
here just giving their life force up for for nothing in return. He wanted respect. He wanted
respect that I gave him a little bit for some meatballs and I could tell he'd never been complimented in history. Most people would say,
hey, it was the place. You know, so I respect for the common man, anyone who's out here doing what
they have to do. There's no such thing, and I know I have a lot of money, but there's no such thing as
shameful work. If you're a man and you're getting up and you're working, doesn't matter what it is,
we need people who do these jobs and I have absolute respect for you. And when I talk about
escaping the matrix, I'm not saying that, you know, if you're working
on normal jobs, you suck.
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying, if you want to live the life I live and you want to have all the things I
have, then you have to escape.
Of course, it's going to be difficult, but I have absolute respect for anyone to
get stuff in the morning and face their demons and get it done because life as a man is
fucking hard.
It is really hard to do.
Final topic before we wrap up.
America, do you follow the political climate in the US?
I have recently become apolitical.
Yeah.
I have so little faith in either side of the system that I am now absolutely and
hardly apolitical.
I do not have any opinions on anything. I'm an apolitical person because
I feel like it's two sides of the same goal. That's my goal.
Doesn't matter who it is. I don't think it.
Left, right, middle, it's the same thing. I think from an ideological perspective, it's
nice to have certain figures because it certainly inspires the morale of the sensible, as
opposed to the morale of the insane. I believe that, however,
I believe that the power structures are set up in such a way that the president doesn't truly matter.
I don't know if you saw there's an interview with Putin when Trump first became president
and you can find it on YouTube. He says something very interesting. He said,
what do you think about Trump? Trump has all these ideas about Russia and
Hyrule has to change the world, etc. Putin said, I think I think he said four. I've sat through four
U.S US presidents so
far. They all come with very interesting ideas and then the men with the black
suits and the briefcases come and explain to them how things are done and then
they leave and I'm still here and nothing really changes. Putin said it. Putin
understands and I think for this reason, winning a vote is nice to say, haha, to
the other side. Winning a vote is nice to say, look, there's
still some common sense in the world. It's certainly a morale boost from the actual skin
and bones, some actual blood and grit of how it would change society. I don't think it
changes anything. And for that reason, and because I don't want to be suicide, I am absolutely
not the uncle of the uncle. I'm able to.
Do you put him as the most powerful man in the world Putin? Is he at the top or he put Gia ahead of him?
Why do you want Putin is very controversial?
Do I wrap this up with this?
I think Putin is misunderstood.
I think he's a misunderstood man.
I think that he's been in power for a very long time.
I think he's extremely smart.
I think he genuinely cares about Russia and
Russians, off other countries
We're living in a world now where it's very interesting to see European leaders
Self-employed and self-destruct their own gas prices their own governments their own businesses their own
Populac's living standards because of some idealistic nation
Idealistic notion that they need to help a nation that they have no direct link to
If I'm a leader of X country, I should be concerned about X country more than I'm concerned about the plight of whatever country
That's my duty and job. I think it's very interesting that most politicians in the world today don't seem to give a shit at all about the
Constituents. They care about aligning themselves to higher ideologies and self-employing their own countries
and the living standards for this ideology.
Who even doesn't do that?
It's Russia first, Russia.
Russians, Russia, Russians, Russian.
And for that, I respect him.
Most other countries don't do that.
And won't do that.
So I find that very, very interesting about him.
I think the current situation is absolutely not only unfortunate, I think what happened is
terrible.
War on all sides is always terrible, un-per-able.
I think it's unfair that we discussed Ukraine at length
when this has been happening across the Middle East
in Africa for decades.
Nobody ever gave a shit.
But now people seem to give a shit about proxy wars
and unfair conflicts and people dying.
It's always been happening.
And nobody cared because they're brown or black.
But now we care because they're white Europeans
and their chicks are hot.
So I think there's a degree of hypocrisy there. He's certainly not the bad guy of what saying he is.
He has a point and his point is logical and it makes sense and he has a point to defend.
And I think that to a degree he was forced in to make the moves he was made.
And uh...
Yeah, a unique perspective. Would you crane being a neighboring of your Romania and like Zalinsky and
put him going back and forward
It is unique. Yeah, like there's obviously good and bad on both sides
Nobody's completely innocent and those are the worst kind of conflicts because when you're a good guy and a bad guy
It's simple right, but life's never that simple
One guy a has some good points and some bad points guy be has some good points and some bad points
Innocents always suffer in the end people at the top don't even suffer, and it's really unfortunate.
War has always been the same.
What more to say?
The general sit and have dinner after millions of in massacres.
It's unfortunate.
And this is one other thing I talk about, light is a man and status.
If you get to become a general, you know, you can participate in the battle, but if you
lose, you just surrender, you have to get that mistake with the Russians and you get to
go home.
If you're at the bottom, you have to die with an artillery shell.
So it's all at once again, about stay is,
it's really unfortunate, but I certainly think
that Putin is definitely not a stupid man.
And I think the narrative that they point,
that he's some madman is bullshit.
He's not crazy, he's not a madman.
He's a very logical actor with points that no people,
not many people know or consider or understand
why he's doing what he does.
But I respect that he believes in Russia and sticks up for Russians.
And I think that any leader of any country should do that.
I think there was, I'm apolitical now, so I can't remember his name, but there was a recent
president of the United States who said America first, and I think that anybody who prioritizes
their own populist over the other populations of the world should do exactly that.
I think that's their job.
I think to do anything else is irresponsible.
I think the Russians do it, the Chinese do it, the Indians do it.
All the other superpowers to come are going to do that.
And as long as you're in charge of a country and you decide to vacate the needs of your own
populist, to please some crazy ideology wherever it will be, it makes you non-competitive
and on a long enough time frame you're going to lose.
And that's how empire is going.
It would be very interesting if you were to have a sit down with this one
president they said America first. I don't know who you're referencing but I remember
his name. I forgot. I know but if it would happen to be interesting. I don't know how
long this is. Is it almost five hours or no? We've been going for a few hours. Okay. It
feels like five minutes. But to the audience, some people maybe for the first time they're
hearing you, some of them follow, no matter what you say, they're going to follow the content.
At this point, coming up, upbringing, you know, bad to date, is there any specific belief
system you follow?
I'm glad you asked that because when they attacked me, when the matrix attacked me, they said
that I purport misogyny and I believe in
show vanistic principles and all this absolute garbage. And when they said that about me,
I understood it's very important that I create a list
and explain to the world exactly why I believe.
So without looking on professional,
I've wrote it down.
I would like to actually say the,
I've written 41 tenants of thing I believe in.
And if you hear any that you disagree with.
41 tenants.
41 tenants. If you disagree with any of them hear any that you disagree with, 41 tenants. 41 tenants.
If you disagree with any of them,
I would love to hear feedback on anything.
So these are the 41 things I believe in most.
And before I read out the framework,
it doesn't matter if you are a Muslim or Christian,
it doesn't matter if you're black and white,
black or white, weak or strong.
I think if any man lives true to these tenants,
they're gonna have a fantastic relationship with life
and also they're gonna be a good force
and good influence for people around them. And I think that all in all, they're going to have a fantastic relationship with life, and also they're going to be a good force and good influence for people around them. And I think
that all in all, they're going to enjoy their experience, their human experience, and
the people close to them will also enjoy their presence. So that's what this is about.
These are the 41 things I believe. So here we go. I believe that men have the divine
imperative to become as capable, powerful, and competent as possible in this life.
I reserve my human right to hold my own beliefs and practice them as I see fit and allow other people
the same right to believe and act as they wish. I prefer loving, rewarding,
consensual relationships with beautiful, positive, and virtuous women.
I believe men and women are different and that each has their own unique and important
strengths and abilities. I believe men have the sacred duty to protect and provide
for the important people in their lives. I believe men have the sacred duty to protect the
innocence and sanctity of their children and reserve the right and responsibility to raise
your children as they see best to ensure their long-term happiness and success. I believe that men
have the sacred duty to raise strong, capable, and honorable sons. I believe that men have the sacred
duty to raise kind, kind feminine and virtuous daughters.
I utterly disprove a violence within romantic or familiar relationships.
I support good and honest governments and will obey their laws.
I prefer to only conduct business dealings with trusted and vetted brothers.
I believe that a man has the sacred duty to hold true to his word and do exactly what he says he will do.
I believe that a man's life is difficult and he have the sacred duty to become strong to handle such difficulty.
I believe men are personally responsible for their actions and for the results they achieve in their lives.
I believe in emotional control and the vital need to become disciplined and professional in all things.
I believe that men have the sacred duty to approach everything in life from a position of strength.
I believe that all men have the sacred duty
to become men of upright and virtuous character
and live above all possible reproach.
I believe it is incumbent upon me to ruthlessly identify
my own weaknesses and limitations,
and I eagerly work to overcome them
and become more capable in all realms.
I seek to improve my personal freedom to think,
act and live true to my masculine and pair of in all ways.
I believe each man has a sacred duty to mold
the physical body into the strongest,
most resilient, and most capable version of itself.
I believe that men have the sacred duty to rigor
so he train themselves both physically
and mentally every day.
I believe that I have the sacred duty
to only eat the highest quality foods possible.
I reserve the right to protect the sanctity of my bloodstream and make my own decisions about medical care and procedures. I affirm the importance of endlessly improving my mental faculties through
diligent work, study, and practice. I believe in inquiring wealth and abundance in order to improve
my life and do good for those I care about. I believe in the merits of healthy competition and
constantly encourage all men to seek out competition to care about. I believe in the merits of healthy competition and constantly encourage all men
to seek out competition to improve themselves.
I believe that masculine brotherhood
is essential to men's mental health,
happiness and success,
and I relentlessly encourage men to meet together,
train together and work together.
I maintain the trust of my brothers
through reverence silence regarding our most sacred
and shared experiences.
I believe in honoring my ancestors
and living in a way that would make most of them
proud of me today. I reserve the right to administer difficult living in a way that would make most of them proud of me today.
I reserve the right to administer difficult rights of passage for our young men to allow them to earn the rank of manhood.
I affirm the importance and need for travel and adventure as men.
I seek to help men overcome poor mental health through embracing hard work, physical improvements, and shared masculine brotherhood.
I reserve the right to make the best choices I can at the time to protect myself and respect my mental health. I do good in the world and seek to help those less fortunate.
I believe all men have the responsibility to lead and guide those they care about for greater
health, prosperity, and happiness. I choose to only interact with those who are respectful and
civil to me in return for my own respectfulness and civility. I reserve the freedom to speak and
refer to others as I believe is best and most truthful. I reserve the freedom to speak and refer to others as I believe is best and most truthful.
I reserve the right to choose my company
and include only those who might believe
are best for my health happiness and success.
I believe I have an imperative to only spend my time
in a way that I determine his beneficial uplifting
and empowering to myself and others.
I choose to only allow myself to be influenced
by those why I believe have my best interests in mind.
And the final one, each day I dedicate myself a new
to create the greatest possible positive impact
on the world and do the work necessary to achieve
a greater masculine excellence across all realms
of human development.
This is 41,000.
Powerful.
Thank you.
When did you write that?
I wrote this last night about half of them
and the other half of the way.
Wow.
You said last night you came up with this?
Yeah, I decided to explain exactly my beliefs.
So these are the 41 tenants I believe in
and I think they can apply to any man on the planet
and if a man lives through to these,
it's gonna be beneficial for both him
and everybody who loves him and the world as a whole.
I don't think it's possible to find a negative connotation
to any of those 41 tenants.
That's what I personally.
Powerful, but.
Thank you.
This has been incredible.
Sit down with you and at a time like this,
long format, kind of risky to go this long.
Both sides, we wanted it.
We started talking on Instagram.
I think you reached out on Insta and all of a sudden,
we're talking to each other.
We had been in communication for a couple of years ago.
I don't know what it was, but different format.
But for the audience that maybe is not on rumble
or doesn't know where to follow you,
what can people find you?
Yes, I'm on rumble at TateSpeech.
So rumble.com slash TateSpeech,
please subscribe to me on there.
I have a few other channels, but if you subscribe to that one,
the other channels be mentioned in time.
That's also where I do my live podcast.
And then on my website, which is co-bretaped.com.
There's a free mailing list.
We send one email a day with life-firming advice,
and kind of things we've been talking about here.
Stories from my life, things I've learned.
And it's a free email list, and it comes every single day.
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And anybody who wants to learn more from me
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The war room is my personal group.
It's my private mentorship group.
We have 5,000 members all around the world in 72 different countries. Now we have some extremely capable You can read about the war room. The war room is my personal group. It's my private mentorship group.
We have 5,000 members all around the world in 72 different countries.
And we have some extremely capable, intelligent,
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But more information is at cobertake.com.
But the best thing is my email list because that's very hard to take from me.
So that's definitely here for me for a long time coming home.
Well, brother, this has been great.
Sitting down with you.
First time we meet.
First time.
First time we need having a conversation like this.
I hope the audience can make a decision for themselves
to know you're not a perfect man.
This is not a perfect person we're talking to.
We're all flawed in our own way.
But be able to see it from a clear, full five hour format man, this is not a perfect person we're talking to, we're all flawed in our own way. Absolutely.
But be able to see it from a clear, full five-hour format where it's not a 15-second clip.
Absolutely.
And the making decision for themselves, but I appreciate you for this wonderful, fantastic.
Thank you.
We really enjoyed it, man.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, bro.
Thank you, bro.
Thank you.
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