PBD Podcast - Former Mafioso - Michael Franzese | PBD Podcast | Ep. 163

Episode Date: June 14, 2022

In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Michael Franzese and Adam Sosnick to discuss American Values, Gun Laws, the January 6th insurrection, and much more... Michael Franzese is an American f...ormer mobster who was a caporegime in the Colombo crime family, and son of former underboss Sonny Franzese. Franzese was enrolled in a pre-med program at Hofstra University, but dropped out to make money for his family after his father was sentenced to 50 years in prison for bank robbery in 1967. TOPICS 0:00 - Start  9:17 - Have American values changed?  14:21 - Why it's so upsetting to think about politicians  23:30 - Gun laws  28:06 - How do you relate to people who don’t make much money/Inflation  32:01 - Bad times will pass   37:28 - Trump   52:37 - Jack Del Rio/Jan 6th   1:05:18 - Why do politicians interfere with the Parent/Child relationship?  1:15:08 - Bill Maher/Mass shootings  1:32:01 - How long should it take to buy a weapon?  1:47:30 - Who you hang around with matters Check out Michael Franzese line of wines: https://bit.ly/3mJU2nS Buy Michael's new book Mafia Democracy: https://amzn.to/3xmud25 Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.   To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: booking@valuetainment.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Are you out of your mind? Here's the debate. You're upset. They're saying we believe For now, man, I'll take it. If a phenomenon is a good word, it's a compliment. Okay, that was a compliment towards Adam's podcast quick plug in the first five seconds I love that and was let's get right into it today podcast. We have I've been away. We didn't do any podcast I didn't do any podcasts last week You did you had a great time doing podcasts last week. Yes, sir Today's episode number 163 with Michael Francis We got a lot to talk about Michael's new book that just came out
Starting point is 00:00:42 Mafia democracy by Michael's new book that just came out, Mafia democracy, which I have a ton of notes on, we'll get into a new wine your launch in, which we'll talk about as well. And issues, topics that we'll get into guys, we know what's going on with gas prices. We know what's going on with the January 6th that they've been going back and forth these last few weeks, the committees,
Starting point is 00:01:01 I'll get his feedback, his input. What happened with Trump and his daughter commenting back and forth about Bill Barr? I don't know if you saw that with William Barr. Yeah, it's always mad at her, right? He was mad at her for what she said. First transgender cheerleader in the NFL, I don't know if you heard or not. Carolina Panthers have the first official transgender cheerleader. I want to kind of get your thoughts.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Like maybe the market is demanding for that. They want to see more of that. And then a few other things. You know, a lot of people have been asking about the economy this week with Biden and their campus like this is the best economy's ever been. Is it the truth? Are people really that optimistic about it? Venezuela and Iran had a meeting together.
Starting point is 00:01:43 They signed a 20-year agreement. If there two countries, you don't want signing a 20 year agreement, Maduro and Iran, it's official. They had that meeting. And a few other things I will get into as well. But having said that, Michael, thank you so much for being back. Great to see you. Great to be here, Patrick.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Great to see you. Great to be here. Great to be here, Patrick. Great to be here. Great to be here. Great to be here, Patrick. Great to be here. Great to be here. Great to be here. Great to be here. Great to be here. days to get here. Not a weather-related problem. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:02:05 Well, was a one specific airline, it was a different one. United, jet blue, and America. So all three of them had cancellations. And it was not weather-related. What they tell you? They don't tell you. We don't know. They don't tell you.
Starting point is 00:02:17 So what is it, a shortage of workers? I mean, they can't get people to fly the planes. I mean, three airlines in two days, cancellations. Very good. By the way, I don't know if you saw the article that came out about Howard Schultz pleading his employees to come back.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Did you see this guy? Howard Schultz pleading his employees to come back, begging them to come back. He said he would get down on his knees. On his knees to get people to come back. Okay, Howard Schultz. And it's still a bit of a craziness. Anyways, show your book.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Let me go through a couple of things with the book I looked at. So you go through it. You got regulations you talk about in there. Taxes you talk about, lobbyists you talk about, Tesla dealership, you talk about how other dealers, other car dealership and lobbyists played a role to hurt Tesla and selling cars directly
Starting point is 00:03:01 to the consumer, propaganda with the amount of websites to federal government managers. Congressman in prison, there was a statistic you had in the book that there's more congressman in jail than former mafia bosses. Let me say that one more time. There's more congressman in jail than mafia bosses, and in a few other stats that will get in place.
Starting point is 00:03:20 And right away, show by the way. Yeah, right. So tell me what prompted you want to write this book, Mafia Democracy? You know, Patrick, honestly, I got seven kids, six grandchildren, and I'm just, you know, prior to the last, I would say 12 years. I never was really too much interest in politics, especially when I was on the street. You know, we had a couple of politicians that we were dealing with, and we did our thing.
Starting point is 00:03:43 But I really started to pay attention in the Obama years. And I am telling you, when I watch the movement, I watch the system, I see how mob like that they're acting. Very Machiavelli and very mob like, I give it the one phrase from Machiavelli. He says, he was advising his prince. You read the book to the priest,
Starting point is 00:04:04 he's advising him how to maintain control of his kingdom and he tells a prince you can do anything you need to do you can lie you can steal you can cheat you can even kill to maintain control that's the number one thing but to the outside world you must always appear to be honest upright and have integrity and that's our politicians today. That's it. In a nutshell, you know, and I say this too, you got a friend, you got a spouse, she likes to you one time, he likes to you one time. Okay, you give him a pass, you work it out. Second time, start to get a little, what's going on here? Third time you're really annoyed. Fourth, fifth, sixth time, that's it. It's over. These
Starting point is 00:04:41 politicians make campaign promises. They get on on video. The next day they're lying to us and they're vice-relates politics. It's not politics, it's lying. And it's lying to the detriment of the people that elect them in office to help them and to help this country. And I see it happening so much. I see this Machiavellian attitude and ideology coming out that I'm worried about my kids in grant because this is not the same country that I grew up in. It really isn't. And it's not the same, you know, at one point in time, Democrats and Republicans, you know, there wasn't, they
Starting point is 00:05:12 weren't too far apart, you know, they're dead, not too far apart. Now, it's like there's such a divide. And this country is going in such a wrong direction that I don't know what it's going to look like in, you know, five, six, seven, eight, 10 years from now. Are you really that concerned? Are you really that deeply concerned? I know you and I have talked about it offline. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:30 But to the public, that's not part of our conversation. Are you really that deeply concerned? I really am. I really am, Patrick. Because in my effect, you know, I started writing this book five years ago. I was writing it for HarperCollins, my last publisher. I get through four or five chapters and I did research and I started to talk about politicians in jail and regulations and all of that and I went to my wife where
Starting point is 00:05:49 you know well, Camine, I said, you know what, what do I need this for? I said, I have no problems with the government now. These people are so vengeful. I've seen it all my life. I said, I don't need to do this. I go to Harper-Cons. I gave them back my advance. I said, I don't need to do this now. And I put it on a side. But the last couple of years, what I'm seeing, is just so, it's just so terrible. I said, I gotta write this book. I'm 71 years old.
Starting point is 00:06:12 What am I gonna worry about now? And I had to write it. And that was, and you know what? The gratifying thing for me is that all the reviews and the comments that we're getting, people are really getting it. This same Michael, we see it, we knew it, but you nailed it, we get it, we believe it,
Starting point is 00:06:27 and they're even adding to what I'm having to say. When you were coming up as a mobster and you're doing what you're doing with the family you're part of, you're buying politicians. A lot of times I saw how you know, it's easier to buy Democrats as politicians. So it's easier to buy Republicans as well.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Your experience, you said, you had an easier time buying Democrats as politicians or it's easier to buy Republicans as but your experience you said you had a easier time buying Democrats as politicians. Why was that easier than buying Republicans? They were easier to corrupt. I mean it's it's plain and simple. Now we didn't say we're going after Democrats. They just happen to be the ones that we were able to get to. You know we would have got to anybody. It didn't matter. And by the way the book is by partisan. It's not Democrats, republicans right down the middle i name them both but for some reason you know it was just easier to to work with democrats why do you think though cuz philge and netty said when philin icepulk and you know we had them in
Starting point is 00:07:16 the in the in the studio we were interviewing him he said the opposite he says look it's not just a democrats it was also easier buying republicans you know for him it was uh... he had as much uh... frustration with republicans as he did with democrats you know but from your and why was it that they would come up more from the why would more democrats come up on the to do deals with the bill you know i there's a couple of them that i know that we're Italian to begin with you know remember i grew up in new york that was our our area there we had seven hundred and fifty made guys guys that actually took the old comprised to begin with. You know, remember, I grew up in New York. That was our area there. We had 750
Starting point is 00:07:46 made guys, guys that actually took the oath, comprised all five families. A lot of us had neighbors, friends, relatives that were law enforcement, politicians, whatever. So a lot of them were of Italian descent and a couple that I'm not going to mention in the names now, but they were Italians. So maybe it was just a jurisdiction and of course the Democrats were majorly in control in New York. So maybe they were more of them, they were easier, they were on the street, we had access to them better, but it wasn't like we selected a Democrat. It just happened to be that they were Democrats. Yeah, it, you know, you sit there and you think about like when we were doing mafia states of America and, you know, you guys talked about how gambling used to be illegal now you know it's it's a full
Starting point is 00:08:29 blown business model billions of dollars being made. We talked about how you know hard money lending was illegal now you got these you know cash places around a corner everywhere hey come bring your check 32% 33% 50% they charge more interest than we did yeah, I'll crack literally across the street walk by it every single day The Am Scott it's in create the the Racketeering there is these merchant lending accounts whatever they are. I mean their Shylocks. That's what they are Absolute Shylocks. I mean they charge more interest than we do Then we didn't excuse me then we didn't I don't do that anymore Want to be clear clear the air on that.
Starting point is 00:09:05 We did. We did. Not the right one. But Michael, can I ask you a question on regarding your book and regarding the sentiment that you basically said, the left and the right are so far apart politically right now. On the left, the AOC, the socialist, the right, you want to call it, you saw the Marjorie Taylor Green. But you say America's, you don't even recognize it anymore. My question is, the people though, I don't feel like the people have moved super far left
Starting point is 00:09:33 or super far right. I still think the majority of people in America have the same values, want the same things for their family, want to have success, want to have a good life. I don't think the people have moved a certain far left or far right direction. What have you run into as far as just regular people go? Well, I think we're seeing that right now, exactly what we were saying. You know, unfortunately, it's the progressives that we hear from all the time, but now that the country is going through this economic strain, everybody.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I mean, Democrats, Republicans, they're all united in the same needs listen You know, I am a firm believer that you know when it comes to Voting people vote first with their pockets, right? They want to make sure they got food on a table the rent is paid and they're comfortable that way That's number one, you know, and secondly obviously safety people want to be safe and that's shared by all Americans Democrat Republican doesn't matter We only hear from the progressives. And for some reason, maybe because they got the loudest voice, I don't know what it is. But we have a tendency in this country to really play to the minorities. I don't know why it happens. I don't know why we don't just shut them
Starting point is 00:10:39 down when they get so extreme. But for some reason, we don't, I don't get it. Well, Pat uses an amazing analogy you talk about. There for some reason we don't, I don't get it. Well Pat uses an amazing analogy, you talk about there's certain people you don't wanna wake up, right? I mean, would you break that down? You said there's a lot of people just kinda going through the motions,
Starting point is 00:10:54 working, hustling, doing their thing, leave me alone, I don't wanna be bothered, but at some point when you start pushing somebody too much, pushing, but they say, you know what, F this, I'm sick of this. And a lot of Americans have kind of woken up and said, I can't deal with this crap. I mean, even think about where you're at, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:09 in LA, Rick Caruso, right? He hears a mayor that's kind of like, hey, you know, here's what we're gonna be doing. People are kind of listening to this guy's messaging saying, we kind of like this guy running out of Democrat, as a Democrat, he's got a lot of conservative, you know, fiscal policies. How do you feel about what he's doing right now in LA?
Starting point is 00:11:24 I, you know, I don't trust any of them. That's, that's my problem. Look, I was, I'll give you another example. The guy in New York, what's his name? Eric Adams. Eric Adams. I said, okay, you know, he seems like, you know, he's a, he's a law and order type of guy.
Starting point is 00:11:38 He's gonna straighten things out. Former police captain. Yeah, former police captain. I'm not seeing that. He ran on that platform and and now he's in, and the guy's more, he wants to dress up fancy and go to all of these gala's that he's going to, but I don't see anything happening in New York.
Starting point is 00:11:52 So I reserve decision until I really see what's going on with them. But I don't know Patrick, I'm just so leery of all of them at this point, Todd. You do have to take a risk with somebody though, right? Meaning like you do have to kind of say, well, you know, like even, Kai, can you pull up what Elon Musk said about Caruso where, you know, he had some nice words
Starting point is 00:12:14 to say about Caruso. So Caruso's running for mayor of LA and, you know, people are making a lot of noise about who he is and what he's doing. Just, Kai, Kai, what are you doing? Just go on Google and type it. They're the gentlemen, Kai's back in the building.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Good, what do you usually do? Yeah, I mean, he's, so there you go. That was so easy. So they just did that. So, but there's a lot of guys that are sitting there saying this guy may actually get some of his policies to pass. You know, he may actually get some people that may favor him and say,
Starting point is 00:12:44 hey, we do want to get right there that may favor him and say, hey, we do want to get right towards the pass Friday. Elon Musk endorses Caruso. Can you see that right there? Click on that. Yeah. Can you click on that guy? There you go. Okay. So if we go up and see what he says, there's a tweet right there. Make that a little bit bigger. Los Angeles is fortunate to have someone like Rick Caruso running for mayor. He's awesome. He says Elon Musk. Wow. Kay, can you go back to the beginning,
Starting point is 00:13:07 the initial article with the headline? Yeah, let's see. If you could, scroll up. Yeah. X Republican back that he learned. So is this what it takes to win in a place like LA, you are a former Republican who has to now transition to a Democrat
Starting point is 00:13:25 and actually maybe policy wise you're more of Republican but personality wise you get got to pretend you're a Democrat that's how you kind of got to win in L.A. or in California. I mean it's so tough to win as a Republican. I don't care. You could be a Republican with Democrat values and still call yourself a Republican and it would be tough. So maybe he's got the right formula. I don't know, but I mean, I like him so far, but you know, listen, a great sign for me in California was the fact that they threw the attorney general out of San Francisco, threw him out, you know, in the recall.
Starting point is 00:14:01 And hopefully the next one will be what's his name L.A. because he's another Garcetti. No, not the Garcetti. Oh, that's a mayor. Attorney General, the A.G. What's his name? Forget his name. Latino guy. No, I dislike these guys so much.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I can't even, I get mad even thinking about the names. Why do you get mad? Thinking about these guys. Patrick, they've identified in the city of L.A LA 17 gangs that are following people to their homes. They're tracking them in restaurants. And this is an oil. These are gangs that could be indicted under the RICO statute because they're criminal enterprises. They're very sophisticated. They're tracking people from their restaurant to their home and robbing them at gunpoint at their home.
Starting point is 00:14:46 They've identified 17 gangs. The LAPD now has a unit just for this gang violence. You can go into stores, right aid stores and other pharmacies that are closing left and right in all of California because now shoplifting is a misdemeanor for anything under $1,000. People are going in there, right in broad daylight, on camera, don't care, and taking $950 worth of merchandise over to Shelifan, walking out of the store. Nothing happens to them. I mean, people are not going to tolerate this.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Normal working people, bloke it. They're not going to tolerate this. Doesn't matter. Democrat, Republican or whatever. But this is what is going on now i'll ask you a question what is the reasoning behind this now of course we're hearing that sorrows is putting all of these people in he's backing that campaign she's getting them in office
Starting point is 00:15:36 but even then what's what's the reasoning behind it i i don't understand it why do you want criminals to be pampered so they can go out and commit more crimes and you want you know regular criminals to be pampered so they can go out and commit more crimes? And you want, you know, regular citizens to be the victims and do nothing about it. What's the mentality behind this? You know, I consider myself a failure, Stuart. I can't figure this out. I don't know what the plan is. Is it somebody that's really looking to destroy America from within? You know, is that what's really happening in these major cities? I don't know, but why would you do that though? Because even the guy, sometimes even the guy that's going through it, that is relying on everybody else, but you know, hey, I'll
Starting point is 00:16:15 give you this for free, I'll give you that for free. Even if they bring the whole empire down, they get crushed because they're not the creators and the initiators. They rely on the creator and the initiator, but maybe they're oblivious to it. Maybe it's an ego thing. Maybe it's, if you rarely earn anything in life, you really don't care whether anything, you lose anything. You never build it in the first place to have any kind of responsibility or pain of loss. Who knows what the motive is with that? But sometimes you got to, sometimes certain states,
Starting point is 00:16:48 you know, Jettaday on our podcast, that got started last week on the first episode. She just flat out said, listen, if you're living in these cities and states, leave. I have to take this. Just leave. I lived in New York, she's saying this.
Starting point is 00:16:59 I was in New York, I left. If you're living in California, leave. If you're living in Chicago, Illinois, leave. Why are you staying there? They have to feel the pain that you're leaving. Too many people are sitting there saying, Oh, no, I'm just going to stay here because of this and because of that. No, listen, I'm leaving. Here's what I'm doing. I'm going to different state. That's her position where maybe eventually it needs to get to
Starting point is 00:17:19 point where they're going to sit around and say, uh, guys were losing way too many people. Just yesterday, you know, they're having this conversation with MSNBC, it's having a conversation with one of their guests that's sitting there saying, well, it's not that bad. Gas prices are not this, it's the Putin gas hike. Did you see that? Which story is that, by the way?
Starting point is 00:17:41 That's on the middle of page two with, you're talking about NBC host Willie Geist. Yeah, Willie Geist. Yeah, NBC, Willie Geist, he says, I wanna read this to you, he says, NBC host tells Biden official that Americans see right through the his Putin price hike spin. Okay, this is MSNBC saying this,
Starting point is 00:18:00 you can't lose MSNBC. Maybe you lose a little bit of Jake Tapper from CNN. Fine, but you cannot lose MSNBC. Willie Geist told the Director of White House National Economic Council Friday that Americans are not blaming Russia, President Vladimir Putin for soaring gas prices. Brian, it's true, of course, that Russia's war in Ukraine is impacting oil prices. Yes, but I promise you, the landscape
Starting point is 00:18:23 or two days ago I talked to about gas pump who was trying to fill up two cans and backpack blowers and moors in a truck was not going damn you Putin. So what do you say to him? What do you say to families who can't afford all these groceries? Right now the NEC director Brian Rose, Brian D said these gas prices, which exceed five dollars per gallon Thursday, is hitting families hard. Then he said gas prices have increased $1.70 in the mass troops at the Ukraine border. I think eventually these arguments get exposed.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Even yesterday, or not yesterday, three days ago when Bill Mar had Kelly and Conway on, and who's the other person that he on? He had a few different people on. And he said, look guys, if Kavanaugh is getting a death threat and New York Times doesn't cover the next day, if that was a democratic Supreme Court, it would be a cover story. He says, this is the hypocrisy of New York Times where people don't trust. And it's not coming from Tucker Carlson. That's coming from Bill Mar.
Starting point is 00:19:25 You can't lose these people that you've had for decades and that's what's starting to happen to many of them. I gotta tell you this, I was never a fan of Bill Mar's. Mainly because I didn't like the way he treated Christians and he was religiously or in the religious list. He had that religious list, yeah. But and also because I thought he was really far left. But as you're watching him now, I have a different opinion of him.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I mean, I like him more now because he's calling it as he sees it. And listen, he said it right out with the New York Times, but, you know, it's a deeper issue. This was a Supreme Court judge that somebody went up to his house and was saying that we're going to assassinate him. And here we are with mainstream media and not even wanted to cover it. I mean, what are they thinking? I mean, this is Patrick. This is worse than street stuff. I'm telling you, I mean, these people say it's okay to kill a Supreme Court judge. They don't want to cover it. They want, they want people to know that. I mean, how do you stop that? What kind of mentality is going on in
Starting point is 00:20:28 this country? And that's why I'm saying this has become more mob like even the press, even the media to cover things up like this. I mean, this is serious stuff. Yeah, they were talking about how Schumer, remember when Schumer said, hey, he'll pay the price for roll resurfaces and he said it passionately and Some are saying well wait a minute. That's a threat, you know, and he says, you know I want to tell you you know, I want to tell you Kavanaugh you have released a whirlwind and you will pay the price You want to know what hits you if you go forward with these awful decisions, right? And then you have to come back. These are Schumer's word. Now, some people say, well, that sounds like what happened at the January 6th when Trump said this, and
Starting point is 00:21:07 that, so the point becomes this, then the view, I don't know if you saw the view or not, you don't seem like the type of person that watches the view religiously. Although it's a, it's a very good show to watch if you like to increase your blood pressure. It's a very good show to watch. But you see them saying, well, yeah. And then, but yeah, but you see what he's setting, you see what McConnell saying, you see what this is. No, here's what's going on. hypocrisy at its best all across the board. And it's being revealed.
Starting point is 00:21:34 FYI, it's both the left and right. And if you try to impose hypocrisy, it's eventually going to be losing. Like it guns right now, the debate that they're having with guns right now Where you know 10 senators from outside. They're sitting there saying hey So here's what we propose because I don't know if you saw Matthew McConaughey speech Did you actually watch the whole speech? Yes, so watch the speech and I'm sitting there This is a guy. I'm a second amendment guy. I have multiple M16s. I have shotguns, I have guns.
Starting point is 00:22:06 I'm all for it. I think I want everybody to be trained, but you're sitting there listening to this guy saying, okay, yeah, I wouldn't mind more people being trained. I can see why the age may increase from 18 to 21. I can see that, okay fine. Background check, fine. When I was in Dallas, I went to the local gun shop. I bought an M16
Starting point is 00:22:26 with a magazine and full of rounds and it took me, I bought it. I walked into the store at 1141, by 1159. I left with everything, bought it, walked out, nothing. I'm a safe guy to buy that stuff and then I made a video about it to document it, but should the average guy be able to do that? Should the average guy be able to do that if he's taking medication? Some people are making these proposals. Why don't we look at them, right? But the same thing goes also with NRA, you know? They also don't want anybody to make any changes to talk about anything. I think what's happening today is the following. Roe V Wade. Hey, here's what's going to take place. I can't believe you're doing this. Guns, this is what's, I can't believe you're doing this. But the American people are saying, look, this sounds reasonable.
Starting point is 00:23:13 This sounds reasonable. The unreasonable folks, you're so loud, you're convincing the reasonable people they have a point and you don't, okay? What are your thoughts about what's going on right now? What they're proposing with the new gun laws? Well, here's my thinking. First of all, I don't think anyone at 18 years old
Starting point is 00:23:30 should be able to walk into a gun shop and come out with a gun, not at 18. I disagree with that. You know, they talk about the military. It's such a silly comparison. When you go into the military, they're training you, how to use the gun, discipline, authority, they're giving you training on it
Starting point is 00:23:45 Let you go out in a street and do that. So I think 18 is the wrong age I wouldn't I wouldn't have no problem with singing at 21. I have no problem with background checks at all I don't you know for me look Patrick here's what here's what I say if they made drunk if they make guns illegal the only people that are to have guns are those on the street, the criminals. I could have gotten any gun I wanted within 24 hours. All I had to do was put it out there, anything that I wanted I would have had when I was on the street.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Anything. There's more illicit guns on the street than you could imagine. Maybe 200 million. That's the numbers that I heard. Illicit. Illegal. Yeah, of course. 200 million gone. You can numbers that I list it. Well, illegal. Yeah, of course. 200 million dollars. You can get them in a second. Believe me. So why would you take guns out
Starting point is 00:24:30 of legitimate people's hands that are using them for the right reason and maybe to defend themselves? It makes no sense. So many things that these people talk about make no sense. But I am all for logical reform. I don't think a kid at 18 should have an M16, wishing I'd do it. Why? No proper training.
Starting point is 00:24:50 At 18, most guys are so immature anyhow at that point in time. So I like logical changes to things that make sense. And I think most of American people think that way too. You know, it's the same way, look, Roe versus Wade is such a hotbed. People don't even understand what's happening. They're not, it's the same way, look, you know, row versus way, it is such a hot bed. People don't even understand what's happening. They're not saying it's illegal. They're saying it goes to the state, which it should have been in the first place. I agree with that. It's
Starting point is 00:25:14 up to the states to decide if you have a blue state and in that blue state, people think abortion is okay and they voted in. I'm against it. I'm a pro-life guy, but hey, you know what I, it should be, in my opinion, the state should decide that. If you're in a red state and they say no, then there's no abortion. I, you know, but look, I was incensed, I did a video on it on my channel and when the mayor of New York gets out there,
Starting point is 00:25:41 I can't understand the reasoning behind this. And he said that abortion should be legal right up to the time of birth. And it's a health issue for the mother. Now he didn't follow it up and say the mother's health was at stake. You know her life was at stake. And I don't care when anybody says. I mean my daughter, I have five daughters. My youngest one was born, you know, premature. And now she's the biggest that all my kids and all my daughters. But I'm saying that's a human life attached only by an umbilical cord.
Starting point is 00:26:11 How can you say the health of the mother is at risk? It's murder, plain and simple, but why would a guy make a statement like this? Who is he pandering to? I don't think the normal American believes that. So who is he pandering to? A minority of people that agree with something like that? No, he's just he's just pandering to the people that are probably funding or some people that he needs their endorsement or some people that if they piss them off, you know, they may not get the support, wanting to be invited to
Starting point is 00:26:40 those parties because deep down inside, he himself knows that that doesn't make, I have to believe that a logical, reasonable person has to believe that doesn't make any sense to make a comment like that. Okay, it's in those sense. It's the same thing, I'll give you another example. They wanna go soft on crime with criminals, right? I spent eight years in prison and 20 years on the street.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Do you think of Giuliani when it came to me and said, Michael, we're gonna soften the racketeering laws and we're gonna give you a bell if you're getting trouble. Don't worry about it. Do you think I would have said, oh, you're such a nice guy, I'm gonna go straight. I'm not gonna commit crimes anymore. I would have said this guy losing his mind.
Starting point is 00:27:16 It's open field. If you're lessening the consequences for a criminal, they're gonna take advantage of it. So I'm asking you, Patrick, and you, Adam, you're intelligent guys because I can't figure out what the reasoning is behind this. They're losing, they have to be losing most of the people that don't agree with this. People want to protect themselves. They want to be safe in their neighborhoods.
Starting point is 00:27:39 What is the reasoning behind people acting like this and going soft on criminals and really making, you know, the innocent people the victims. But they think, they think that's what the voters want. But how? And they don't, but they don't. That's the beautiful thing about, okay. So, you know, a guy asked me question the other day and he's making two, three hundred
Starting point is 00:28:03 grand year and he says, Hey, can I ask you a question? How do you relate to people that only make 15 bucks an hour? I said, what do you mean? He said, how do you relate? I'm making, you know, $250,000. How do you relate to people that make 15 bucks an hour? I said, bro, you were just making 15 bucks an hour three years ago. What are you talking about? Yeah, but you know, when you're, I said, bro, you were just making 15 bucks an hour three years ago. What are you talking about? Yeah, but you know when you're, I said, no, no, relax. You've officially been disconnected from the customers that are buying from you. You don't even know what's coming next for you.
Starting point is 00:28:35 When you start thinking that you're that much bigger than somebody that's making 15 bucks an hour because you're making a quarter million dollar your income, right? It was an interesting conversation. He was asking you were more asking for himself. Yeah, he's like, well, you know, when you're winning a quarter million dollar your income, right? It was an interesting conversation. He was asking you were more asking for himself. Yeah, he's like, well, you know, when you're winning again, you know, it's like, you're making a quarter million.
Starting point is 00:28:49 How do you relate to people, the mindset of a $15 an hour person? Like, you were, there were a few years ago, when you don't, right? So, but this is the point though, when you're disconnected from the life and the only people you talk to are people that are within your circle
Starting point is 00:29:04 and they're going to the same parties, the rich congressman senators and you're in it for too long. You forget that you got into this with a cause to want to make impact, to want to make a difference to correct an injustice. Now you're just attending a party on a daily basis. You're so disconnected from the day-to-day stuff. You don't even know what's going on in the streets. So they don't go in the streets and say,
Starting point is 00:29:26 so tell me how's it feel like paying gas prices, the amount that you're paying, how you, how you feeling right there. Well, it's tough, why? My grandmother lives two hours away from here. I can't even go visit, I used to go visit her once a month, I can't do that in my home, I can't come by. Why?
Starting point is 00:29:41 Two hours away, I drive a pickup truck, it's 70 miles per gallon, I just can't pay the six bucks. So I'm not gonna be doing it. That's real. That's the real part. A flight that used to cost 350. I used to take this flight all the time. It's 350. Now the flight is 580. I can't pay 580. Right. The flight is gas. You can't pay that. The food. Like, by the way, some basic prices that people feel okay, so fuel prices in the last 12 months You're over here up a hundred seven percent airfare up 38% hotels and motels up 22% butter in a margarine 20% okay, then you have ground beef made to may up 14% bacon up 15% eggs up 32% apple up 6% Fishing seafood up 12% you see these stats that's coming from Department of Labor and who feels this?
Starting point is 00:30:32 You know who feels this you think Nancy Pelosi feels this the average person feels the average person who's shopping is gonna Write all this stuff. What about the woman the congresswoman from I think Michigan The other day she said I don't care about the gas prices they don't bother me i drive an electric car now she reprises constituents and she's lame enough to say something like this publicly is in a newspaper i have an electric car cost of fifty seven thousand dollars how many people can afford that
Starting point is 00:31:00 because they're already paying off the car that they have so yeah we just go out and buy an electric car. I don't care about the price of gas. She had the nerve to say that. It shows you how far detached they are. And these are the people that are making decisions for us. That's what I'm saying, Patrick. It's gotten so far out of hand. And if this continues on this path, we're in a lot of trouble.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I don't think we are. I don't think we are. And here's why. I think it's very important for everybody to read this To be aware of what's going on. I think everybody needs to read this to understand what's going on They got to pick up the book but spend it whatever 30 how much is this book 20 bucks 15 bucks? Yeah, whatever the dollar runs go buy the book put the link there so people can find it By the way, let me let me just mention mention, if they go on mafiademocracy.com, we'll give them a free chapter to read.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Then they can make a decision. Okay, there you go. Put mafiademocracy.com. But I don't think, you know, bad times are gonna be around the corner permanently. I think temporary, they're gonna be here. And it's gonna be ugly. Especially those who are oblivious
Starting point is 00:32:03 and they've spent too much time watching Netflix, playing video games, spending too much on TikTok, Instagram, yeah, those guys, I'm sorry, you paying the price. Because the news is gonna hit you 12 months later than the people that are aware. So you're gonna get hit very, very hard. But the people that are actually the common sense people, here's what they're noticing.
Starting point is 00:32:20 They're noticing hypocrisy and contradictions. For example, let me kind of go through this. What's wrong with us raising the age of somebody using an M16 to 25 years old? What's wrong with raising the age of somebody using a gun at 21 years old? This is an 18 year old kid. Do you realize when you're even in a military,
Starting point is 00:32:42 even a soldier, us, we can't keep the gun in our bed. We have to go put it in a place where they keep it safe, sign it out. It's not with me all the time, which they're right. That's how it was in the army. Okay. Yeah, you have a good point. I'm sorry. But it's okay if a eight-year-old kid wants to change their sex. It's okay for us to give the hormone medication where not they're gonna make why I don't know if I'm a man or oh you know what okay babe so you think the 18-year-olds not wise enough to use a
Starting point is 00:33:16 gum but you do think the 10-year-old is wise enough to have a sex change okay so now you lose because it's called hypocrisy. Now you're contradicting yourself. You lose when you say it's my body, my choice, and you go to Lakewood church, scream and holler and getting naked, half naked, taking you close off down to your panties and your bra sports bra. It's my body, my choice. I can do whatever I want to do with it. Okay, cool. That's all right. It's cool. Listen, man, you know, this vaccine stuff. I mean, my family's taking it. I don't want to take it. Let's just say, no, you have to, you're being irresponsible. That's contradiction. Okay. So, yeah, let me tell you, it's the woman's
Starting point is 00:33:56 choice when it comes onto this. Okay. But I have to pay for it. Why do I have to, I didn't have the fun and joy in that you had when you had sex you enjoyed it I didn't shiver you shook my toes didn't curl your toes curl Why am I having to pay for your your toes curling? I didn't get that experience you got it, okay? Well, so what is taking place today is Contradiction on both sides are being revealed and people are are starting to say, I read between the BS. A Bill Mars reading between the BS. Fox News the other day, they're sitting there preaching all this stuff
Starting point is 00:34:32 about transgender. They just did a special on transgender. I don't know if you saw that or not, the story that they had on. Yeah, I watched it. Did you see it or no? I watched it. Did you watch the special that they had where...
Starting point is 00:34:42 I've been watching a lot of stuff from Matt Walsh these days if you've seen what he's putting out there with I am a woman or have you seen any of this? What is a woman? Fascinating. Yeah, but what I'm saying is now Fox, Fox is putting it up. It's kind of like, well, so now Fox is sitting there saying,
Starting point is 00:34:58 well, you know, we gotta go a little, let's see what the audience wants to hear. So your Fox news Contradict in yourself and people are sitting there saying what are you pandering to so it doesn't matter Which way you go the average person is sitting there saying I've never liked Bill Marr But that just makes sense. I've never liked Parker Carlson But that just makes sense. I've I just found out about Joe Rogan I know hundreds of millions of people listen to billions of views online. I found out because of what they said.
Starting point is 00:35:27 And guess what? I actually like what the guy has to say. This Russell Brand guy isn't supposed to be a full-on left wing liberal guy. This guy makes sense. People are starting to say, hey, I don't know. I think there's a lot of contradiction. And they're going to people who are able to reason
Starting point is 00:35:46 and the value, the currency, like you know how hard work is a very valuable currency, right? Respect is a very valuable currency, okay. Being able to reflect is a very valuable currency, right? Good attitude. Good attitude, very absolutely, very valuable currency. Loyalty, very valuable currency. You know what people are starting to realize is a very valuable currency, loyalty, very valuable currency. You know what people are starting to realize
Starting point is 00:36:06 is a very valuable currency? The ability to reason. Common sense. Wow. You want to hear something that's very telling? I was at the airport going through security and we're going through the machine, right? There's five women in front of me.
Starting point is 00:36:18 And for some reason, the TSA guy says, I need a male to come through. So I said, I qualify that, is that okay? Right? Crowded place, everybody started laughing, because they're getting. Now, if there was maybe progressive there, I would have offended somebody,
Starting point is 00:36:36 and I even said to him, are you allowed to say that? He's come on through, you don't like that. But normal people are getting it. So I agree with what you're saying. So maybe this extreme, extremism that we're seeing, that's really caused a lot by the law. You know, I hate to say it because, and I want to ask you this question about Trump.
Starting point is 00:36:56 This extremism, it coming from the left. I mean, it's coming from the far left. I mean, they're the ones that put it out there. They're the ones that shout the loudest. They're the ones that do all of that. And they close so much division in the country. I really think it's coming from there. And I'm not picking on them. I'm just seeing it. That's reality. But this extremism, it's not what normal people think. They just don't think that way. I got to ask you a question about Trump. I can get on and I try not to talk about Trump at all. People know you
Starting point is 00:37:26 supported Trump and I try to say them, listen, this is not a personality constant contest for me. I like his policies for America. That's it. Yeah, he's not going to date my daughter. I don't go out to dinner with them. We're not best friends. I don't go to Mar-a-Lago. This is one I like his policies and the story. But I forget about him, I don't talk about him. I say something with this current administration. Immediately, they don't even see that, they come back at Trump. What is it with, what did this guy do to make people hate him so much? It's very obvious.
Starting point is 00:37:59 It's very obvious. I mean, you and I sat there and we spoke one time and you told me about something you learned from your dad years ago, Sunny, who we had a chance to, I had a chance to meet with the multiple, one time we had a great lunch with them at that one Italian restaurant. And you said, one of the things I learned from my dad is to be able to sit on in front of somebody, knowing they light your face, they betrayed you and you still Don't act like you know and you don't publicly humiliate them something like that and you know I'm preface in what you said, but something like that. You remember this guy's like
Starting point is 00:38:39 So well Trump didn't do that Trump went publicly and called everybody out as fake news. That means he called everybody in a blanket media, your all-liers, and he kept doing it over and over and over and over and over again. You're essentially questioning their character. You didn't say I disagree with their policies. He didn't say I disagree with the approach to get the economy to improve.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I disagree with what we ought to do with health insurance. No, no. You said you're all full of shit, you're all liars, you're all fake. None of you guys care about the American people. All you care about is your pocket, your dinner, and that's who you are and that's your DNA. Well, guess what you did. You woke him up. And that woke mob is coming after you.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Not one of them, not two of them, not three of them. They're all angry at you. And no one's ever done that before until this guy did it. It's that simple. You go look at Kennedy. Kennedy and his family did that behind closed doors. But publicly, like Joseph Kennedy was like a Trump. John F. Kennedy wasn't like a Trump. The father is a Trump. You know, he was a guy that if he would have ran, Joseph Kennedy was probably not capable of running at that time
Starting point is 00:39:54 because he would have talked shit to everybody. That guy was a straight up gangster. You know, he was a feared man, but his sons learned from dad's weaknesses and strengths, right? Like, even if you look at his daughter, Trump's daughter, look how he, she got all the strengths from Trump. Trump is like, okay, that's what my dad's good at. But look at the way she answers.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Okay, you're like, okay, I can see her. She has diplomacy. She has diplomacy and the father doesn't have it. But, you know, if we had a guy like that right now, would they put and be doing what he's doing to Ukraine? How would that phone call be handles? They asked a question from Biden this week, what can we do about inflation?
Starting point is 00:40:34 You know what his answer was? There's really not much we can do about inflation. Do that's not something we wanna hear from the president. There's really not much we can do about inflation. There's really not much we can do about inflation. There's really not much we can do about inflation. So I think that's the part with Trump where he went out on the offensive and called everyone's character out. Well, let me add to that because I'm so glad you went there, Michael, because the whole time I'm thinking, I was talking about all these policies, issues, subsets and type stuff,
Starting point is 00:41:02 all I'm thinking is the elephant in the room is no longer there. So, Trump sucked so much of the oxygen out of the room that even if you were going to attempt to have a policy debate, no matter what it was, you know, healthcare, guns, schools, you know, the economy, whatever, everyone from the center to the left would be like, yeah, but he's a liar. Yeah, he's a bad guy. Yeah, he's not presidential. And it was such a quick response
Starting point is 00:41:27 that you couldn't even have a substantive debate. What's happening now that Trump is no longer in office and the dust has settled, and we're supposed to have grownups in the White House now, and you have Biden coming out there basically saying, yeah, you know, the gas, you know, it is what it is, sorry, you have someone like Janet Yellen basically saying, yeah, you know, the gas, you know, it is what it is. Sorry, you have someone like Janet Yellen basically saying, yeah, my bad, I was supposed to,
Starting point is 00:41:48 I heard, I never used the word transitory in my life, never heard of it. And I heard it every other sentence out of Yellen and Jerome Powell, transitory, transitory. So the good and the bad of the Trump thing is now that he's not here, we can actually have policy debates. And that's what's happening in this country right now.
Starting point is 00:42:04 And, you know, believe it or not, the right is winning these policy debates for the most part, right? Maybe they've, you know, on guns, they maybe, you know, hopefully, will come around on some stuff. But everything with wokeism, transgender, economy, gas prices, inflation, it's so hard to look at the left or buy it and be like, great job guys, keep it up. The whole premise of Biden and everyone that kind of competed him into the White House into the Oval Office was, quote unquote, well, now we got the grown-ups in the White House. Is this what fucking growing up looks like? Because it looks pretty ugly.
Starting point is 00:42:42 But without Trump, we're able to see really what's happening right now. And again, not a huge fan of Trump, but at least we're able to see what's behind the curtain. But is that okay? So you just made a very good point. And I rarely say that. We just made a very good point. But the part about what you just said is the final.
Starting point is 00:43:03 He almost needed to leave for us to know if he was doing a good job or a bad job. Bingo. God, and now we notice where he was doing a very good job in and where he wasn't. And a lot of the stuff that the media was saying that he was doing bad, they were full of shit. Because the media would never attack the policies
Starting point is 00:43:24 for the most part. There were some things that were disagreeable We know whether the tax cuts were a good thing or not or whether you what you want I mean he did not have a solution whatsoever for health care, but for the most part When you talked about the economy blacks white Hispanics Latinos Asians this that like James Carvell said in 1992 Bill Clinton 30 years to the day like Michael Michael said, it's the economy's stupid. And everything all roads lead to the economy. And everything about Trump, it was, everything was attacking his character.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Because like it or not, the guy did lie a lot, okay? Or he told Fibs or whether he called people out, he, I know, but Adam, lie a lot. What they all do is what you're saying. Biden? Can I tell you something? People say we feel sorry for Biden. And I'm a Christian and I'm a former gangster honestly. This guy I can't even look at him and I'll tell you why. Number one, he's a tremendous liar. He's been feeding, he's been living off of the taxpayer for 47 years, this guy.
Starting point is 00:44:29 I guarantee you never had to make a payroll in his life. He don't know what it is saying. He's been living off that. Lie through his teeth about his son. Lies, he's his partner. He knows his son used him to get whatever and he's sharing it. The evidence is there.
Starting point is 00:44:44 And I'll tell you what gets me the most. And this is something personal. I get angry just talking about it. What's happening in our southern border? I spoke to 850 undercover DEA agents from the state of Texas. I spoke to them, I spent two days with them. They said what they said to me in two days made me sick.
Starting point is 00:45:01 They said, Michael, we're not even getting 10% of the illegal drugs that are coming across opioids and fentanyl. And then they showed me something. They wrote on a piece of paper a block like this, Patrick, maybe a foot and a half square and maybe two inches thick. And they said, this block of fentanyl coming across the border can kill the entire population of the world, seven billion people. And they said world. They're talking about the world. They're talking about the world. They're talking about the world.
Starting point is 00:45:28 They're talking about the world. They're talking about the world. They're talking about the world. They're talking about the world. They're talking about the world. They're talking about the world. They're talking about the world. They're talking about the world.
Starting point is 00:45:44 They're talking about the world. They're talking about the world. Okay, good, beautiful kid. Some clue. He knows this is happening. They know it's it's happening. There's 15 year old kids, they're finding opioids in their rooms, in their lockers in school. You know this is happening, and you allow this because you're bringing, the whole scheme is so easy to say, you're bringing these people in, you wanna get mail-in votes,
Starting point is 00:46:03 then you wanna send your troops out at the election time and say, hey, Biden got you here. If you want to stay here, you better vote this way. You don't need an ID. Just mail a ballot in. And that's it. It's all about staying in office. It's all about money and power and control. And that's what the book is about.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Let somebody deny that to me. Let them deny it. These are, these are murderers. I hate to say, but it's true. How could you allow this? Look, I don't know guys on the street that would do this, Patrick. I mean it. We didn't do this in our own neighborhoods. We took care of our communities. Even Sammy, you spoke to Sammy. We didn't mess with our neighbor. We took care of the people in our neighborhood and our community. We had a heart for things like that. Some guys, okay, talk about Roy DeMail, it's different animal, you know, different animal.
Starting point is 00:46:49 But for the most part, how could you allow this to happen? Is this that important to Nancy Pelosi? Women's 81 years old, you've been in power, you're a multi-millionaire, you might have come into, how come these people come into offices with blue collar assets and go out multi-millionaires on a $200,000 year salary. I mean this is what they're doing to the American people and yes it's on both sides but I got it for Biden because I know this is happening and he's doing nothing about it nor any of the Democrats that right now are in
Starting point is 00:47:24 control and this is basically murder. They're allowing it to happen. You know, so many people that I've spoken to, because you know, I travel the country. So many people that I've spoken to have lost loved ones over opioid, you know, what do you call it? Overdo. I get so angry about it. Yeah, no, I get it. It drives me crazy. How could you allow this to happen? Biden, I don't feel sorry for him at all. I don't want, let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:47:52 If I was running for office and my wife knew that I was a Biden, she would divorce me before she'd, before she'd allowed me to be president. I mean, these people are real frauds. They're all frauds. What are they trying to do? Biden's been off his 47 years. He's a multimillionaire. You have to put the country in this kind of shape.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Go and take care of your grandchildren, live the rest of your life, enjoy yourself. I don't get it. The Nancy Pelosi is the same thing. Go enjoy your life. Why do you have to make people miserable? And this is coming from a former gangster. But look, I got kids and grandchildren, I got a heart,
Starting point is 00:48:27 I go speak in detention centers, talk to young kids. They don't realize what they're doing and they don't care. And this to me is more serious than anything else. I mean, I take it personal, even if it wasn't a personal thing, I would still take it personal because they're wreaking havoc on this country. And if it is true, and again, I can't verify this, I can't say it's a fact, I know what I've been told,
Starting point is 00:48:52 but if China is sending the drugs to Mexico, Mexico is processing them and bringing them over in their mules, well, this is another thing that, look, you know, this every great nation that ever fell, it fell from within. Roman Empire run down, fell from within. This country now, I think every young man should go into the military.
Starting point is 00:49:13 So many of them are soft, they don't know, they don't even get, I mean, they're on their phones, they don't even know what it is, you know, to break their backs at all, they should go into the military, you know, that you've been there, and get get training this country is getting very weak a military is getting woke you know Iran and Venezuela now partnership China and I and Russia getting to I mean What's going on here? I mean are we gonna be around in 20 years? I know you say different Patrick
Starting point is 00:49:42 But I don't know this country is is getting weak from within they called the wussification of america yes a lot of the highlights what i'm doing i'm doing a sermon on on uh... you know i'd big church great glorious church you know who he is and you know what it is it's what it what to be on what is it to be a man's man in two thousand twenty two guys got a man up i'm so i'm i'm really concerned. I really am about what's going on in this country. I think we're in a
Starting point is 00:50:09 lot of trouble. I think it's going to unify the right group of people. You know, everything's in messaging. Sometimes people don't have messaging right. And people are getting the messaging in a more way that's connecting with the audience. Younger people are starting some of the younger people are getting the messaging in a more way that's connecting with the audience. Younger people are starting, some of the younger people are starting to rise up and talk about some things that we didn't talk about before. You got guys are talking about what it is to be a man today
Starting point is 00:50:37 and hey, you know, something happens, you rely on the man to go fix this or do that and people are starting to talk about the study the last 30 years, men have been whistified, you know, whatever you wanna go fix this or do that. And people are starting to talk about the study the last 30 years. Men have been whistified, you know, whatever you want to call it, where they're pansies, but we're going back to admiring what men are. And women see that?
Starting point is 00:50:55 Yeah, I have to say. Oh, social, even what the role I was doing, what some of these guys, people are going to get a bigger voice on this. Jordan Peterson, what he's doing is talking about? You know men, you know on the inside. There's a monster. It's okay to be that because that's how we are And we're supposed to be that way and he's getting billions of eyeballs on top of billions of eyeballs and people are sitting They're saying this kind of does make sense and a lady interview is Jordan says so look at me I'm 45 years old. I've never been married.
Starting point is 00:51:25 And what's wrong with that? I'm a career woman and I've done very well. And Papa, Papa, Papa says, why do you have such a problem with that? I don't have a problem with that. But if you're 45 and you're single and your best years are behind you as a woman to find a good prospect,
Starting point is 00:51:40 what the risk you took for just being a career person, you're gonna live a very lonely life. And if you're okay with that, or power to you, but this is the part, this feminism movement of living a lonely life, it takes a little bit while for people to see what the side effects are. So for example steroids, okay. Do we know the negative and the positive side effects
Starting point is 00:52:03 of steroids? Well, when it first came out, nobody knew. Right. Eight years later, guess what? Now we know what it does to deliver. We're learning about what it does to this. Vaccine, do we know the side effects of the vaccine? No, we don't know the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:52:14 But it's going to take a decade or two to learn what's going to, okay, well, learn what's going on with that. In a military, they would give a shot. We had no idea what's going to happen. But once we learn, then we have to adjust. If we don't adjust, and it's too late, we're screwed. That's the concern. Like, even with, did you see what happened to the NFL
Starting point is 00:52:31 with Jack Del Rio's comment he made about January 6th and he talked, did you hear this? Yeah, of course, on the Russian Redskins. So anyway, so this guy makes a comment, I wanna read this to you and share with you why. This is, at the same time, with page seven, if you wanna go to page seven. So, uh,
Starting point is 00:52:46 pop up, pop up, where's it at? There we go. NFL Hall of Famer Ed Read urges, Commanders players. This is Washington Commanders players. So take stand over Jack Del Rio's comments. This is a Bleacher report story. Profit by Hall of Famer Ed Read wants to see Washington Commanders players speak out against Jack Del Rio for the comments he made about January 6th insurrection at the Capitol retweeted, Saturday that the $100,000 fine Del Rio was assessed is nothing and player coaches by him need to put your pants on and stand up to the 59 year old Del Rio initially caused the stair on Monday when he responded to a tweet about the hearing on the insurrection and which he seemed to equate the attack on the capital with the public protest that occurred in the summer of 2020 in response to Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin murdering George Floyd.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Commanders, head coach Ron Rivera announced Friday that he got $100,000 after two met discusses. Okay, the money will be donated to the United States Capitol Police Memorial Fund. Fine. Okay. So making that comparison is a bad comparison to make. How many businesses were shut down because of January 6th? How many communities were turned upside down with fire? African, I saw what this one man, a grown man in his 70s is saying,
Starting point is 00:54:03 why are you doing this to me? This is my business. Why are you doing this to me? This is my business. Why are you doing this to me? I've been here for 50 years. I can't afford to. Why are you doing this to your own community? What happened to that protesting? Are we seeing anything on that?
Starting point is 00:54:15 Where's the hearing? Is anybody being held accountable? So let me tell you folks, if now you're watching and you're saying, well, Pat, you know, you do, you do, you do, you do you understand what January 6th? I said, no, no, no, no, hang on. Remember, valuable currency is the ability to reason. And to be able to reason, we have to try to control our emotions, which is very, very hard to do.
Starting point is 00:54:39 You just heard Michael transparent, vulnerable saying, I can't even look at the man's face because it's so much emotion involved when this thing directly impacts your life. But you cannot tell me you're a hypocrite. If you're willing to hold January six people accountable, but you don't want to hold the people accountable that affected more people's lives. That affected more people's lives negatively, the BLM protesting and the founder of BLM, what happens two years later? She's sitting on these three houses, really? Also, so that's what you support it? No, that's not what I support it, but that is what you support it, but that is what we
Starting point is 00:55:15 drove, but that is what you were doing. No, but that's not what I'm talking about. No, but that's exactly what happened. So, accountability needs to be held on both sides. Absolutely. If you're doing it on both sides, then we'll sit down and we'll say what? Okay, cool. This is fine.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Did you see what happened with Geico? The lady got a suit Geico for $5.2 million on Geico, I have to pay you this out. Have you seen the story? Oh, first of all, you got to cover this on the South Stocks money. So this is perfect story for you. So typing Geico $5.2 million STD. Okay, guy call may have to pay $5.2 million to a woman who got an STD in an uninsured car.
Starting point is 00:55:52 She had sex, go to USA Today's story, not the NPR. Go back and go to the USA Today. Just type back and type in USA Today, USA Today. Watch this. So this lady, there it is. Okay, guy call order to pay $5.2 million USA today, watch this. So this lady, there it is, okay. Geico ordered to pay $5.2 million to woman contracted STD during sex and in an insured vehicle.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Let me get to straight. You had sex and in a car. You got STD from this guy. Can you zoom in, Kai? So we can read it as well, because Kai is more interested in the article he forgot about us. So in Geico has to pay them $5.2 million. Remington has to pay somebody $72 million
Starting point is 00:56:31 because another person chose to use the gun and Remington has to pay $72 million. Geico is gonna have to pay $5.2 million because this woman sexually transmitted disease in the insured vehicle of her then boyfriend, a state appeal court rule on Tuesday, the misery court of appeals, Western District published an opinion
Starting point is 00:56:47 and favored the woman identified as M.O. who alleged that she contracted HPV during a sexual encounter in insured vehicles in 2017. Shouldn't they sue the boyfriend then? What the hell are we talking about here? What are we talking? Who's winning today? Nobody. No, it's not nobody is whose argument is getting attention today. This gets attention. So we pay a 5.2 million,
Starting point is 00:57:14 really? Oh, and then what happened to the streets? All the riots? No, no, no, they were doing they were just being peaceful protesting. Now, we had Nikki Fried here in Jedadaya called her out. It was all over Twitter because she says, well, you know, Jedadaya is like Florida doesn't have a problem with peaceful protesting. She says, yeah, peaceful protesting says, what are the kind of protesting is there? Do you remember that moment?
Starting point is 00:57:35 What are the kind of protesting is there? I mean, should we be able to do protesting? We'll revandalize and we're okay with that. So, no, that's okay for, so again, the more and more Michael, my opinion, the more and more they do what they do, the more their hypocrisy is revealed, and the more people sit there and say,
Starting point is 00:57:53 I kinda supported that, but I don't support that. That's kind of weird. Okay, you know, you go to Trump and his daughter. His daughter comes out and says, what, did you read the story or no? But she agreed with Bill Barr's. Yeah, so she said it's on paid six. She says, she says on paid six, let me go through. So Ivanka Trump says she believed A.G. bar that her father lost 2020 election. This is Bloomberg. Ivanka Trump, the daughter
Starting point is 00:58:19 of Donald Trump, a former White House advisor, said she accepted that there's no evidence of fraud and that her father had lost 2020 election. A clip of her testimony was played during the White House hearing on January 6th on the Capitol. She was asking the opposition that impression, what impression she had when the attorney general William Barr and Trump and his advisors there was no such fraud. It affected my perspective, she said, I respect the attorney general bar. So I accepted what he was saying. Now, she's not saying yes or no. She just saying I respected the guy. So I what? I respect what he was saying. Now, she's not saying yes or no, she's just saying I respected the guy. So I what? I respect what he's saying. Trump comes back and says she
Starting point is 00:58:50 wasn't involved at that time. Okay. Do you sit there and you agree with everything Trump does is right? No, absolutely. No. Do you sit there and say what everybody does is right? No. But people have to start reasoning again. The ability to reason has to become a very valuable currency again. We've lost that recently. We can sit there and have a friendly debate, and you can say, I agree with you. I disagree with you. Cool.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Got it. Walk away. I ran this was great. Awesome. We reasoned. You won. You made a good point. I'm like, I'm smarter now. I made a point like, that's a good point. I didn't think about that. But we're not doing that anymore. So I think the people who are able to reason are going to come out as leaders. Mokana here, when he gave that speech, it's not the most popular speech to give.
Starting point is 00:59:39 You know, a lot of people from NRA is like, dude, what are you talking about? I can't believe we said this. They don't like that speech. But guess what it did? I got a couple of people from NRAs, like, dude, what are you talking about? I can't believe he said this, I don't like that speech. But guess what it did? I got a couple of guys to say, listen, let's talk background check, let's do this, let's do this. It's reasonable. Yeah, he's given a reasonable speech saying, I learned how to shoot a shotgun in Yvaldi.
Starting point is 00:59:58 I grew up and they taught me how to shoot in that city. I know, like, I am all about this, but I'm not about this. And then we have to sit there and say, ah, this is just made a very good argument. Ah, okay. All right. Good point. Fine. Got it. At dinner this last week, Saturday with two big Hollywood actors and we're having dinner. And said, you know where my position changed when it came down to health insurance, health care? What, what, what was it? John Q. You ever seen a movie John Q
Starting point is 01:00:32 with Denzel Washington? What's kind of like, let's kids trying to get a heart. At this point of the game, listen man, we got a figure right away for this kid to get, what's quarter million dollars. Am I saying, let me pay for all your abortions because you decide to have unprotected sex, I'm not for that. But in that case, we're like the kid couldn't get that and we learned so much about our system. Do we just let this
Starting point is 01:00:53 person die? Do we just let this person go so? But that was a way where we watched we said good argument I'm for. So I think those who reason will lead the future of America. That's my hope. So I'll tell you when it comes to January 6th, look, I believe in peaceful protest. If it's not a peaceful protest, it's not a protest, then it's vandalism, whatever else. It's you call it what it is. My problem with this is that it's a it's a hypocritic hearing. It's all one-sided. They have one goal in mind and that's the very Trump. And it's hypocrisy. And I just can't support that. Now, I don't believe in it. Don't get me wrong. It shouldn't have done that. It was wrong. Whatever. Trump probably said things to incite them, even though it wasn't direct. But
Starting point is 01:01:41 you know, the flip side of the coin, where was the capital police? Where was the national guard that he authorized to be there? Nancy Pelosi is a hypocrite. So it's hard for me to support anything that she wants to do because I know it's in her mind. It's not for the benefit of the people, she doesn't care, nothing was gonna happen to her. You know, it's the same like, you know, with the Supreme Court, if this was, you know this,
Starting point is 01:02:03 if this was a liberal Supreme Court justice, this was, you know, this, if this was a liberal Supreme Court justice, this would have been on a front page of every newspaper would be talked about, you know, the right would be in blame. They'd use it to high heaven. And I just can't stand it. I just, I can't stand it. And, and again, Patrick, this is coming from a guy that lived, that was 20 years at bad guy, a criminal. I mean, I was 20 years at bad guy, a criminal.
Starting point is 01:02:25 I mean, I call it the way it is, you know? I just cannot, I can't. But do you think they should not have these hearings? Not, at this point in time, when this country is reeling, you know, when people are going to a gas station put seven gallons of gas in their car in California and paying $60. It's just over a quarter
Starting point is 01:02:46 of a tank for most people. That's what you're worried about January 6th at this point in time when you know Patrick named all the things that people are struggling for. I mean, look, I live out in a pretty affluent neighborhood. It's new, you know, a new port beach. Yeah, a new port beach. But you know, I see what's going outside of that. I mean, this is the time to have these hearings. Are you that worried about Trump maybe that he's gonna run against or you wanna bury him? That's the whole motivation for this. So for me, it's just too much hypocrisy to support.
Starting point is 01:03:17 And again, I don't believe that they should have stormed the Capitol. 100% I don't believe that at all, but I don't believe what they're doing is real. And when you have a different motivation, you lose me on that. By the way, is there anybody more far left on TV than Rachel Maddo? She's probably got to be up the line. Okay, so here's what she said.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Rachel Maddo admits that Trump had nothing to do with the Capitol breach. She said, I don't know if you saw this clip or not. I didn't. Yeah, she said, I met some of the Rachel Maddo who inspires barbers around the horizontal. I didn't. Yeah, she said, Ms. E. Rachel Maddowon spires, barbers around the world, and we have to go again with you. She said this, and fatically reminded a fellow panelists and audience that Donald Trump's rally
Starting point is 01:03:50 was not repeat not the starting point of the so-called January 6th insurrection. Here's her words, just to keep point, that yes, there was a pro Trump rally at which the president spoke. And we can absolutely talk about all the things the president said there, but the idea that the rally is the thing that got out of hand and that somehow resulted in the breaching of the capital.
Starting point is 01:04:09 That rally was very far from the capital and the people who, as you say, did the initial breach that allowed everybody else to come in, they never even went to the rally. And this is Rachel. Rachel Maddow. That's shocking. We're not talking about Tucker. You're not talkingow. That's shocking. We're not talking about Tucker. You're not talking about Hannity. Right. You're not talking about Santorum. You're not, you're talking about, you're talking about Maddow.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Shocking. Rachel Maddow, if there's a list of who is the most hated person, the person she hates the most in her life, it trumps on the top of that leader's bulletin. Yeah. He's competing for the number one spot. So, but you know what this gives me? This validates the point of even Rachel Maddo's being forced to reason. She's cornered to reason because her audience is saying, I'm sick of your shit. I believe you, you're pandering,
Starting point is 01:05:01 start reasoning with me. That's why I tune into you. Or else your eyeballs are going away I'm not watching you anymore eventually we as parents my kid Don't come and say stuff to me right and let's just say I try to use a parent card father card Mm-hmm, and I'm being lazy about being a father and I'm just kind of using my power And then they come back in a corner and meet a reason, you know what happens? I get upset, but they're right They're right so now kind of sitting there saying frin' Tico. Okay, Tico, let's
Starting point is 01:05:27 reason. And then I'll reason like, I got it, I got to give this guy this one. He won this one. I'm not gonna tell him he won it, but you won this one. Here you go, Tico, go ahead and do this, right? These people who've been bullshitting people have to eventually reason or eyeballs go away. We watched and news for one reason. We want you to show us a way that we're not thinking, give us perspective. And then for us to say, okay, cool. I got you. I want to tune in. Let me ask you this. Yeah. What is the reasoning? What is the mentality behind people at the top trying to interfere with a parent and their child and their upbringing
Starting point is 01:06:02 and their sexuality and their morality? what do they think they can gain? What? There's got to be some ulterior motive, some big picture that they think they're going to create behind this. It's absurd to think that you can get in between a parent and a child with respect to their education, their sexuality, their morality.
Starting point is 01:06:23 So what is the big picture thought that they have behind this? Because these are the things that I can either be so cynical and come up with something or I just can't figure it out. I was at a Wayne Hughes event at his house in Malibu and they brought Dennis Prager there to speak. And he said, here's what the left is doing. The left is trying to make animals and human beings equal. Men and women equal. Gays and straights equal. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:52 God and human equal. Parents and kids equal. Employer and employee equal. The risk taker and the, you know, every, they're trying to make everything equal. Right. Because they crippled the person that's the doer. They crippled the father and the mother that are paying the bills and funding the house.
Starting point is 01:07:11 They crippled the man that brings the security. When has your woman ever brought you security? But so is that so that they can become more dependent upon them? No, because it's the ultimate mechavelli, divide and conqueror. Okay. I'm saying, but what's the reason behind itavilly divide in conqueror. Okay. Yeah, I'm saying But what's the what's the reason behind it? You said it my kevel yeah because they want everybody to be dependent upon them No, because the moment you are able to create a division between two people now You can turn the other person into villain and you can win the other victim over, you can't ever recruit a doer.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Michael, the hardest people to recruit are doers because doers don't need you. Let me say this one more time. The hardest people to recruit are doers who are responsible, who get up and work, who pay their bills, who are doing everything right, who have their own ambitions, their own dreams, their own dreams, their own vision on the life they want to build, you can't just recruit them with the victim hood mentality stuff. You can't.
Starting point is 01:08:13 They know that they're not as equal as somebody ahead of them. They know that they understand that game, but the victim, the other guys, they're very easy to recruit. Okay. Were you talking about a child, you know, a five or six or seven year old child? I mean, where they wanna be able to give them vaccine without the permission of their parents, what kind of gauld that they have,
Starting point is 01:08:36 that they think that they can pull something like this off? You're a parent. What would you do if somebody said, hey, I'll vaccinate your kids, I don't need you a permission. And they tried to alienate your child from you I mean this is this is something that would get people incensed and it's happening I mean parents are going crazy over this. What's the what's the thought behind that? It's the same thing they they want to take control over them
Starting point is 01:09:02 You know, they want to divide and conquer. Exactly. So that they so that everybody becomes dependent upon them. Yeah. I mean, this has been going on for for a very, very long time. This has been going on for a very, very long time. You know, you go around American gangster, the scene, then Zellas standing there. What are they giving away in the city? Turkeys. Why they're giving that away? Hey, if we give away turkeys, you'll be quite about the fact that I'm selling blue magic in the streets, right? Okay. Hey, these guys are good guys. I don't know what you're talking about. Hey, go to Medellin. I was in Bahamas last week. And you go to Carlos Liders Plain, where he crashed, and I went snorkeling there, right? Great experience. And that was the airport, Nelson, what's it called?
Starting point is 01:09:47 Anyway, something K, Nelson's K, I think it's Nelson, maybe it's a different word, it's a different word, I believe. Anyways, where they would, and then eventually they had too much cocaine and they crashed it, right? Okay, go to Medein and ask people about Pablo. Look how many people will say how much they love him. Yeah. Look how many people will be offended.
Starting point is 01:10:04 I don't know. How could you say something like that? He was a very good man. Why was he a good man? I don't care. Because he won votes through giving things away for free. Same with phone. No, didn't he not do that?
Starting point is 01:10:15 Yeah, but here's the thing. This is our teacher's union that has the support of the government. This is the government trying to divide a parent and a child. This is taught, you just made my point. It's totally Machiavellian. That's what's going on here. And what's the ulterior motive? It's control.
Starting point is 01:10:36 So that's what we're dealing with. That's why I wrote the book, Patrick. And this is what people have to understand. There's more of a game plan here from these people on the top. And we have to, you know, as a republic, we have to fight against this. We can't allow this to happen. Parents are in an opera and they should be.
Starting point is 01:10:57 They shouldn't tolerate this kind of stuff from. I mean, who are these people? We'd elect them and put them in office. You know, we lost sight of things. Look, I spoke to the Senate staff on the anniversary of 9-11 at one point in time, and they took me on a tour through everything. I'm sure you've done that before.
Starting point is 01:11:15 These people don't want to give any of that up. I mean, they don't even go out in the rain. You know, they get tunnels with the things that they drive so I don't have to get wet. They don't want to give it up. That's all this, they don't care, they don't want to give it up. I believe in term limits, let them have to, you throw them the heck out after that. Let them go get a job, but they want to come back, you know, four years later or say whatever, but throw them the heck out. You cannot give people power for that long, because then it all, it's
Starting point is 01:11:41 all about keeping control and power. And that's what's happening here. Higelian dialectic has been around for a long time. Okay. Create a problem, blame him, coming as the hero. It's a very basic formula what they're using, right? Create the problem, fabricate it. You're the one that fabricates it, the politicians, right? Then come out and say, I cannot believe Kai created this problem
Starting point is 01:12:06 with these searches, never show up on time. It always goes to the different website. It's Kai's fault, right? And then come out and say, but for only $9.99, I have the solution. Okay. And we can sell the software, but we have to replace Kai, but I created the problem, right? They've been doing this for a long time the challenge becomes when the American people are naive To it and when you're naive to it and you pay a price I hate to say this to you But you deserved it because you were blind you were not willing to be studying on what's going on a marketplace and why they're doing this They're gonna win over a lot of people Michael. They're gonna win over a lot of people until they wake up at a
Starting point is 01:12:46 When I visited my mom we were having lunch together. She was making me pirashki, which if you have an ad pirashki, it's to die for. And she's a great cook, but I said, it's so, where you at politics? I said, I'm no longer, I'm no longer following this stuff. I'm no, because she was a full on card carrying communist. I'm no longer there.
Starting point is 01:13:02 You kid me, I'm seeing what some of these guys are doing. They've lost their minds. But you know, it took her 70 some years to be at that point. Wow. Unfortunately for some people, it's too late when you finally realize, yeah, what the hell of a philosophy that I buy into? What was I thinking? You know, these feminists who come out and they say, man, I bought into feminism. And I'm 58 years old and single and miserable. What the hell did I buy? I thought you were right. Guess what?
Starting point is 01:13:30 I'm not equal to men. I'm not. What they provide me, I can't provide. Early I was talking about security, right? When have you seen a guy date a girl like, oh my god, I'm with her because she provides me security and protection? I've never heard it. I can't imagine. I mean, obviously, sometimes you meet certain people because she provides me a security and protection. I've never heard of that. Can you imagine?
Starting point is 01:13:45 I mean, obviously, sometimes you meet certain people, like she would whoop anyone's tail. UFC MMA guys. But for the most, about 99% of men and woman date was to S-word. I want security and safety. It's our job to do that. We don't rely on them to do it.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Okay, so anyways, that's one part. By the way, the one thing I do want to talk to you guys about is the following. So they talked about, let me just give a shot at quickly to a couple of the super chats. So one is here, F-Math said, why are they not calling Pelosi to testify? This will open up all the doors to the truth,
Starting point is 01:14:13 the NO, to National Guard request. Another one that we got is by, let me read this next one here, I got here, this other super chat is, JB Well, they're creating social chaos to keep you distracted from the fleecing the politicians are doing, dividing conquer, no different than snowball from the animal farm. It's interesting, we just talked about that, right?
Starting point is 01:14:35 TZ Burton, who's a member by the way, shout out to TZ Burton member, the elephant in the room is the corrupt media, okay? Lose Acosta Pandolfi said, my opinion is January 6 was not an insurrection. It was American taxpayer protesting got a national building funded by our taxpayer, dollar against the politicians,
Starting point is 01:14:53 interesting way of putting it, right? So, but I want to talk to you about this one part. So Bill Maher says, why mass shootings happen? Four reasons, mental health, easy access, smartphones, movies and TV, right? And he spends a lot of time talking about movie TVs and video games. You know, it's specifically movies where it's like, the hero's the what. And he talks about all these movies that are about revenge, revenge, revenge, revenge. He gives 50 movie titles that have vengeance in them, revenge, right?
Starting point is 01:15:24 And the bad guys always get slaughtered by a automatic weapon. The good guy only gets hit in the shoulder and you put a bandaid on it and it's good to go on your safe, right? Okay, so then stats comes out. And it says, 22 weeks into the year, America has already seen 246 mass shootings. So my wife is sitting there, she's like, babe, is it kind of weird that all these mass shootings are happening? So let me read this article from NPR. And by the way, NPR is a, we know who NPR is. It's a very liberal tax funded media company. May 14th, a racist attack at a Buffalo, New York supermarket snatched the lives of 10 people and three more injured. It was the deadliest mass shooting of the year in the United
Starting point is 01:16:09 States for just over a week. 10 days later, Godman targeted a fourth grade class at an elementary school in Eval, Texas, killing 21 and during, uh, injuring 17, it was a deadliest school shooting in America since Sandy Hook. Okay. Mass shooting happened in the US with depressing regular, uh, regulatory among the at least 11 mass shootings over the first weekend in June, a Cincinnati hook, okay? Mass shooting happened in the US with depressing regulatory. Among the at least 11 mass shootings over the first weekend in June 14th, June 14 people were shot near a nightclub and shot in the hotel. See 14 people were shot in a busy entertainment district
Starting point is 01:16:35 in Philadelphia and eight were shot at graduation party in summertime, summer to South Carolina. It follows a shooting at a hospital in Tosla, Oklahoma, Tosla, Oklahoma, and a weekend of violence the previous week. Sunday is day 156 of the year. The country has already experienced at least 246 mass shooting so far, at least 246 and just 22 weeks.
Starting point is 01:16:54 The average is out to be 11 a week. The tally comes over to gun violence archive, the independent data collection organization, et cetera, et cetera. Right? Let's talk about it. Okay. So here's what I thought about. I said, whatever we see, we want to become. Why do so many kids become athletes? Because that's what we watch.
Starting point is 01:17:16 If sports wasn't on TV, would kids become professional athletes? Oh, would they just do it for entertainment? If we didn't have a, you know, a TV to watch Michael play, like Mike, I wanna be like Mike, right? Or Mark McGuire, baseball, Derbywood, you know, Sammy Sosa, or Barry Barnes, or Wayne Gretzky, or Roger Clements, or, you know, Thurmond Thomas, or Barry Sanders, or Emmett Smith, or bring it to today, you know. All the Aaron judge who's just killing it on track
Starting point is 01:17:48 to he wants his $400 million contract. So all these things, you're saying, I wanna be like that guy one day, I wanna be like that guy one day. Why? Cause it's repetitive. And we turn him into heroes and it's repetitive. Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Every time I turn to anything on the news, another mass shooting, another mass shooting, another mass shooting, another mass shooting, another mass shooting, another mass shooting, another mass shooting, another mass shooting, another mass shooting, it's a form of recognition. And it's constant recognition, recognition, recognition, then anger, anger, anger, anger, recognition, recognition, recognition, anger, anger, anger, anger, anger.
Starting point is 01:18:21 So kid is sitting there who's already angry at a video game he played, growled that broke up with them, whatever he's going through, mom didn't tell him he loves him. Being bullied in school, which is happening left and right. All this stuff is going on. I say, you know what? It's not fair. It's not fair. And he goes out there and does something. So to everybody that's kind of like wondering, maybe I'm not alone on this, are you also wondering why we're having so many mass shootings?
Starting point is 01:18:51 Is this almost needed for them to say, see, we need guns, you see, we need guns, you see, we need guns, you see, we need guns. My concern is who are we recognizing? Who are we recognizing? And are we wanting these people also become heroes and kids are like, I'm gonna go be hero. Dude, you're not becoming a hero by doing what you're doing.
Starting point is 01:19:10 You're ruining your life by doing this. There's no benefit to you doing this part. But, and then the other side becomes with the media, smartphones, easy access, mental health. Okay, mental health. Partially, that's on The these pharmaceutical companies you got the video games they can talk about nobody wants to talk about hip hop rap I grew up listening to a pop rap hit them up all this stuff DMX all this stuff
Starting point is 01:19:35 So a lot of anger. It's a lot of hatred. Oh, can't believe you're doing that. You become a like these are no I'm not I'm just telling you affirmations as power, right? But there's a form of recognition people want to be stars today. And this is an opportunity for me to get my, you know, 15 seconds of fame or whatever it is, right? But why do you think we're having such a surge in mass shootings right now, 246 for the year? And it's only June. Why do you think we haven't such a surge in mass shooting? and it's only June. Why do you think we haven't such a surge in mass shooting? There you are.
Starting point is 01:20:06 Well, look, I did see that thing with Bill Mar. By the way, Bill Mar is probably one of the more reasonable necessary voices in America today because he's not just calling out, again, this goes back to my initial point. When Trump's not there, you don't have the scapegoat anymore, and you have to call out real issues. But the gun situation to your point, it's not just one thing. It is mental health.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Michael touched on it. I don't think 18 year old kids just go in there, no background check, boom, they have a gun. I think it should be rates to 21. I think when you're 16, 17, 18, you're in the middle of high school. You can't get laid. Girls won't pay attention to you. You're bullied. You're picked on. You're watching movies. All these movies that you're playing games, Call of Duty, this that there's social media bullying, there's so much stuff happening to you. When you're 16, 17, 18, your body's going through different things, transition, and you're angry, you're fucking pissed at the world, you know, I remember being a 16 year old kid, 18 year old kid. I would fight with my parents every day, you're just, you're in such a negative state of mind,
Starting point is 01:21:02 it's a toxic environment, and now you have access to a gun. I'm sorry. I mean, the things need to be done. We talked about the easy access to guns, but mental health. Look, do you think people in the United States are crazier than everywhere else in the world? I think we have an equal amount of crazy people in the United States as we do in Europe, as they do in Australia, as they do in Canada. Crazier is crazy.
Starting point is 01:21:26 I don't think USA is crazier, but when you add on everything else you touched on with on top of mental health, it's a recipe for disaster. And it's, look, at the end of the day, enough's enough for why increase in mass shooting. I don't know if there is. I mean, maybe there, but I just feel like the media sensationalizes everything. I think that people are completely within their right to be fed up with media and media, you know, whether it's Trump, whether it's mass shootings,
Starting point is 01:21:54 whether it's politics, whether it's any, like they're gonna cover the event that gets eyeballs. So, you know, as sad as it is, people tune in to you, Volody. People tune in to what's going on in Buffalo. People tune into when a synagogue gets shot up. People tune into when someone walks into a church and they're shooting up churchgoers.
Starting point is 01:22:13 It's horrible, but the media goes by eyeballs. And like you said, affirmation has power. And what you show on the media is a real thing. So I don't know if there's more mass shootings now or if they're just covering it more, I know you just said the stats, but something needs to get done. And this is the first step in the strategy that what the what the senators are doing. And keep in mind it takes in the house, I think it's just a majority vote. And then the Senate, I think you need 60 votes. So we're not even anywhere close yet. But I think the country is yearning to do frickin' something, to sit back and be like, hey,
Starting point is 01:22:50 a good guy with a gun, stop the bad guy gun. Well, it didn't really work in you, Vol. They did it because the fucking cops stood outside the classroom for what, 45 minutes? Yeah, but that doesn't fix it. The changes they make doesn't fix that. Not every, not everything's going to fix an individual scenario, but I think we're talking in a macro perspective for the United States, right? Things need to get done. You touched on opioids. Mental health is a major thing, okay? Like you said, rap hip hop to an even larger extent, the video game, gun culture, movies, you know,
Starting point is 01:23:29 the good guy, like you said, the bad guy gets his head blown off, the good guy gets shot in the shoulder, keeps carrying on, all these things add up to what's going on in America today. I'm gonna tell you why I don't think it can be fixed. And it's because of the mindset of the country right now, and I'll give you my experience. I spent eight years in prison. And during those years, I spoke to a lot of young kids that came
Starting point is 01:23:50 into the system, 21, 22 years old, mandatory minimum drug senses. They get 20 years, they're spending 17 and a half because normal parole in the federal system. You can write the same script for every single one of them. Fatherless home, mom, young trying to do her best, she's got her own problems, can't raise the kid properly. He's got no guidance, gets on the street, you know, gets with the local gang, gang, gang drug dealer before you know what they're in prison. No guidance whatsoever, right? And that's the trend. Give these kids contraceptives when they're, you know, in high school, let them go out and have sex all they want so they can bring kids into this world
Starting point is 01:24:29 that don't have a father and don't have a stable home. Now, now they have their cell phones, I agree with Bill Maher. You can get Netflix on your cell phone now. It's not like you have to go to movies anymore. Go look at Netflix, action adventure, shoot them up, shoot them up, shoot them up, all low budget films, all about action and adventure.
Starting point is 01:24:46 That's what these kids are watching. It's all about guns, guns, guns, guns. That's the kind of product that they're putting out there now, especially after the pandemic. So they're seeing all of this stuff. They got no guidance in the house, nothing at home. Emotional problems, yeah, because so many of them are on drugs. That brings you an emotional issue right away. You're not in your right mind when you're doing this stuff.
Starting point is 01:25:07 It's a deadly lethal combination of things that are taking place, and there's no cure at this moment because nobody's willing to go back. Now, I will offend people. I don't know why women are offended when you tell them your child doesn't have a father. Why is that offensive to you ladies?
Starting point is 01:25:25 Do you wanna bring this kid up by yourself? You don't want help? I'm a father. I want all the help I can get with my kids, in the right kind of help. I want my wife there when I can't perform she can when I can't reason with them she can. But people get offended by this now.
Starting point is 01:25:40 You're offending women if you say, you should have two parents in the home. So how is this gonna turn around? I don't think it is. I know it sounds like I have a pessimistic view because I'm being realistic. This has been my experience. And I don't, you know, unfortunately in life so often,
Starting point is 01:26:01 I mean, it happened in me. I had to sink to the depths before I made a transformation in my life. You know, I had it had to hit me because at one point in time, I thought I was in control. I thought I can do everything until boom. You know, I'm in a six by eight cell thinking I'm going to spend the rest of my life there. And then wow, this is a real problem. I'm in trouble here. And I started to look like Patrick said, then you start to really look at things. What's going on here? For me, fortunately, it wasn't too late.
Starting point is 01:26:27 So what's going to happen here before people say, okay, enough, we gotta get back to reality. You know, I'll tell you this too. And this shouldn't be offensive as a matter of faith. You can't push God, you can't push God out of everything. You know, you can't, unless you, unless you have a clear answer as to why we're here and there is no God, you have to at least consider him. You can't push him out of everything.
Starting point is 01:26:53 And that's happening here in this, there's no alternative. What's the alternative? A real documented evidence about, back alternative to God, give it to me. And then maybe we can look that way, but there is none. So people are pushing God out, and it's showing, and listen, as a Christian, I'll tell you, it's biblical, it's prophetic.
Starting point is 01:27:14 You know, you don't wanna, I don't wanna get there right now because I don't think this is the appropriate time for it, but I see what's happening. But Michael, maybe what you said is very powerful, and I'll tell you why, like what hit me is maybe your story is a metaphor of what needs to happen to America. Because you said, you know, you were gangster, you were raccoteer, you ended up in jail for eight years,
Starting point is 01:27:35 could have been longer. You had to look at yourself and say, I'm I going to spend the rest of my life in this cell and you had to hit rock bottom before you had to turn your life around, which you have rightfully so. I know, but maybe that's what needs to happen to turn your life around, which you have, rightfully so. I know, but maybe that's what needs to happen to America, right? Well, what would that be, Adam?
Starting point is 01:27:49 What catastrophic thing would happen to, would have to happen to this country to, we say, wait a second, we need, we got to go back to the roots, we have to have a family here. I think it's a culmination of everything that's happening right now, okay? Kids are being killed off in drugs. Exactly. In droves, this is, you know what I think it's the worst problem we're facing in this country. It's an epidemic and people are not paying attention to it.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Those that are suffering over it and there's so many of them. If you think 100,000 kids, 100,000 people between the ages of 24 and 45, how many families is that affected? 100,000. Yeah. We're talking a lot of people are affected by this. And it hasn't stopped. It's continuing. It's probably getting worse. So what catastrophic event has to happen before we realize, Hey, this is real problem here. How do you reverse
Starting point is 01:28:40 that? I don't have the answer. I don't know. Because the mentality now, that's why I get so incensed with people on the answer. I don't know because the mentality now, that's why I get so in sense with people on the left. You see this stuff happening. You're pandering to criminals. You're at the expense of legitimate, hard working citizens. You're doing all these things that it, you know, Bible says there's going to be a time when good is bad and bad is good. It's happening right now. And I don't know how you reverse that. But I think at the end of the day, common sense needs to win out. I mean, everything you talked you talked about is absolutely accurate. And I don't have kids, so I'm not I don't have those
Starting point is 01:29:15 same exact worries that Pat has every single day with a one year old, a five year old, an eight year old and ten year old, right? I mean, I don't have those exact same words. It's scary out there. But still, I'm sure Pat, I don't have those exact same words. It's scary out there. But still, I'm sure Pat would agree that the future does look bright, but sometimes it becomes, you know, what is it against darker before it becomes light? I think we're going through a very dark time
Starting point is 01:29:36 in America right now, and I think it's gonna get uglier. I think a recession, as Pat talks about, is upon us. But, you know, McConnell, Nancy Pelosi, you know, the octogenarians out there, the 80s, somethings real to world, running this country, I think it's time for them to go and I think a new leadership needs to take place. That's why I'm so excited to vote for someone
Starting point is 01:29:56 like a Ron DeSantis. I think a new, fresh perspective needs to reach America. The same old, same old that we've been doing for decades is not gonna work anymore. But here's my thinking and Patrick, maybe you can, because I know how you think, and you two Adam, what kind of catastrophic event has to occur before we get back to the roots of what we're really supposed to live like? We're parents. You'll experience maybe this one day. We understand what it takes to raise
Starting point is 01:30:25 kids. It's not easy. It's difficult even under the best of conditions. It's a hard job. It's work. And we're raising a person to go out into the world. Look, you know, I'm a I will not allow my daughter to go into Los Angeles so long. I see you can't go. That you can't go. Period. I am not going to have you there worrying that you're going to get out of the car or you're on a parking lot and somebody is scoping you out. I tell you, you got pepper spray, you walk into a parking lot, you do what I do. Okay, you look all around you, you make sure everything you know, you know everything around you. She's a dad, you get him, you nervous, so I want you nervous because these things are happening right now. And I don't want you to be
Starting point is 01:31:04 that statistic and I don't want you to be that statistic. And I don't want to go through that. I'm being selfish to who I don't want to do. Well, she does, because I put fear in her in that way. I said, look, this is the world we live in. You know, it's reality. Okay, you go out, you're in a parking lot. I'm hearing things.
Starting point is 01:31:18 I mean, in New York, they're going up to people and throwing them on the tracks. I lived in that city. I never saw things like that I mean, this is a crazy even in crime riddle New York in the late 70s early 80s. Yeah, in the 70s It was pretty bad back then right it was someone like Julianna had to come in to clean it up It was well it was very bad back then. Yes, honestly, and you know what people can say what they want about Giuliani He prosecuted me wanted to put me away for the rest of life. And I like the guy because he cleaned up my city.
Starting point is 01:31:47 I mean it and he wrote the forward. He wrote the quote even before that. Let me ask a question. How long do you think it should take from a person to walk into a gun store by a semi-automatic weapon with a magazine and bullets. How long do you think you should take? A thorough background check. Whatever that do you think you should take? A thorough background check, whatever that takes. And I'm not expert in that, but I think a thorough back to, listen, I mean, come on.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Kid walks in at 22 years old. Where's your mom and dad? Where's your mother and father? How did you go up? I want to know about this kid because again, he's got his phone, he's wild. Who knows what the situation is with him he's irresponsible to begin with I mean my son you know had two DUI before he was 23 24 years old I
Starting point is 01:32:33 wouldn't put a gun in his hands and I know he wouldn't shoot anybody's not that type of kid but still you are irresponsible enough to get a DUI you know how long things should take how long things should take weeks oh really yes seriously yes and you're a conservative same I am how long things you take how long things should take weeks? Oh really yes Seriously, yes, and you're a conservative same. I am how long do you think you should take? Not a day whatever's whatever they're able to pass that's longer than whatever the current I can you can you this this is what I did four years four and a half years ago five years ago in Dallas Can you can you bring that up? I just make the video bigger.
Starting point is 01:33:06 And I want to see if you can see this. Okay. We're at the store right now. We're about to walk into buy a semi-automatic weapon. Let's see how long it takes. By the way, I'm in the city of Plano, Texas. Marry, can you give me your phone? I want to show you exactly what time it is.
Starting point is 01:33:18 It is Monday, March 26, 1140 AM. Okay. Terrible comparison. But let's go see how long it takes us to buy this semis automatic weapon watch this Let me get a round of paper for the others. Yeah. Yeah. You're also going to get a round of paper. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:33:46 I appreciate taking these. And now, I'm walking out. With this, up you mark, can you open this? Alright, so here's our weapon. Here's the magazine. That by the way, this magazine is not a lot on the state of California. This is a time 11, 15, 19. So as you can see, you can pause.
Starting point is 01:34:05 19 minutes. What do you think about that? I think it's wrong. You know, semi-automatic weapon. Yeah, 19 minutes to me. So, okay, when I talk to, I'm conflicted with this. So I like the banter going back and forth. So for me on the one side They're like Pat what if we the the government turns against and they they're coming after you don't you want to be able to have the citizens have access to go get a gun Okay, all right fine. So that's your fear No, it's a right. It's an alien you know It's a right of mine that's in the Constitution second amendment. They can't take it away from me fine Mm-hmm got it. Okay, but 19, they can't take it away from me. Fine, got it.
Starting point is 01:34:45 Okay, but 19 minutes, you want the average person to get 90, yeah, I said, so how long does a prescription drug background check take to see what you're on? Okay, if you wanna buy a pistol, okay, fine. Maybe let's make the argument that you can buy the pistol. You wanna get an M16, It's not an automatic weapon. It's a semi. It's a big difference.
Starting point is 01:35:07 Okay, fine. No problem. But should you have access to all the stuff that you'd be able to get it that quickly? Why not do, why not take a week? Why not take two weeks? No, but if something happens, we have to, okay. So no matter where I'm going with this, you get to a point you're like, I don't know if I want just anybody off the street to be able to go get this.
Starting point is 01:35:29 There's got to be something where if you're on a certain medication, we're talking mental health, I'm not comfortable. I'm just not comfortable now. To the guy in you've all did that, did what he did. His background was clear. He didn't have any issues. He was 18 years old when he bought it. And then while he didn't do, you know, he bought it
Starting point is 01:35:50 and he went and did it. He didn't do the next day, was weeks later, after he bought it. So that still would have allowed him to go do what he did because even if you change it to two weeks, that still doesn't. So again, you go back and forth with this debate to say, how many of these 246 mass shootings would have been eliminated based on changing the laws to ages and you come down to only 5%
Starting point is 01:36:11 To even with the new you know someone I'm saying so even with all the new things. Let's make it 21 Let's make it 18. Let's make it even with that less than 5% of those could have been eliminated So your 246 becomes what? 230. Okay, whatever the number is, 230, 230. So yes, it may be a good publicity stunt to do this, but I'm looking for real solutions. What is the real solution on what to do with this part?
Starting point is 01:36:38 You talk about single family households, America's the number one country in the world for the most single parents. Look at this person, this is from peer research. Peer research is not Fox or CNN. Can you make it a little bit closer, Kai? Zoom in a little bit more so we can see that. Yeah, so according to peer research,
Starting point is 01:36:55 the US has the highest rate of single parenting in the world. In 2018, almost a quarter of US children under the age of 18 lived in a house with a single parent and no other adult present other than adult children. Being a single parent predominant affects mothers around the world, the US are on 20% children, what their mothers are on 5%.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Go up to show the statistic, I go up to show the statistics. 49% of what is it? 49% and 49% of black children in the US lived with one parent as the 28% of Hispanic kids and 21% of white kids. Go show up, look at that chart right there Adam, look at that. This is not a leader's bulletin, you wanna be number one in.
Starting point is 01:37:32 So again, even though I did that social experiment that we did four or five years ago, that would have still only prevented five to 10% of it. So what is the solution to this? Is this just something for people to change past some laws to say, well, look at this, we got a victory, we passed this. You're still going to have 230 those shootings.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Yeah, but it goes back to exactly what I said. It's not the one solution alone. It's not raising the age limit and doing a background check. That's not the one solution, the solution. I mean, what do you do? Do you call child services and go to the kids' house and talk to his mother and his grandmother, whoever he was living with, see if he has a father?
Starting point is 01:38:14 You know, I mean, how far of a background search do you do on someone? That's why I think you gotta raise the age limit. That's number one. A kid at 18 years old should not have a weapon like that. What is he doing? What is he got it for? Tell me why you can go and buy a gun that quickly, but it's going to take you three more
Starting point is 01:38:33 years to go sit down at your local pub and legitimately buy a beer. How does that make any sense? It makes no sense. And there are certain states where I think you need to be 21 to even just buy some marijuana. Yes. Look, do I agree that the second amendment should exist and we should, Americans should be able to have guns? Yes.
Starting point is 01:38:50 It's second amendment. Like, no matter what you say, it is the second amendment. But nowhere in the second amendment does it say you should be able to get a gun in less than 10 minutes in a day. It doesn't say that. So the straw man of like, well, they're going to come take my guns. I got to be able to protect myself from the government. It's like, really, you think that you're going
Starting point is 01:39:10 to protect yourself from the government come, the SWAT team comes after you. Okay, best of luck. But there needs to be some some regulations, some rules around what I'm saying to you is, even if we follow all the logic which makes sense it's still only going to be 5% of it would have been prevented. So even if you're 18 to 21 fine I can go there and say you want yeah you don't trust me to drink alcohol but you trust me with a gun that's an easy three second argument. So they're going to have to come a while yeah but the military is 18 yeah but even in the military I didn't sleep with my gun. Yeah I always have to turn in my gun after I'm done shooting.
Starting point is 01:39:46 Congratulations, you're in the military, you're allowed to use the gun. And if you're not in the military, you gotta wait three more years. But even in the military, the gun is not with you, it goes back in the safe that you have to sign in and sign out. But all I'm saying to you is, even if we take your approach, on what you're saying,
Starting point is 01:40:05 even if we do all these things that McConaughey is saying, it's still only gonna say 5% of them. But even if it saves 5%, that's X amount of lives. But you're saved. But you know what, don't know. I want to push the limit to challenges to think about a better permanent solution. I agree.
Starting point is 01:40:21 To me, to me, this is a systemic issue. This is a education. This, this is a systemic issue. This is a education. This is a all around cultural issue of who we admire and who we turn into heroes. That's the issue. Kids want to become a hero. Kids, everybody, no matter how old you are, what color you are, what level of education have everybody wants to be somebody in life.
Starting point is 01:40:46 So that's somebody isn't being the next great basketball player. Everybody wants to leave a legacy behind. Everybody does. From the smallest ambitious person to the most ambitious person, everybody wants to leave some kind. This has to be presented at this is not a way to be a hero. Here's why parents need more training. Marriages need to be more faith values principles.
Starting point is 01:41:13 I don't care if you're seven day Jehovah, Christian, Judaism, Catholic. I don't care what you're practicing. Go to somewhere where they're selling forgiveness, like the messaging of forgiveness. Take everything with faith. Take the individual out. Take Abraham out.
Starting point is 01:41:33 Take El Ron Hubbard out. Take Jesus out. Take Moses out. Take all these people out, right? Deep the personality. I don't think he's a real guy. I'm just fine. Take all that stuff out.
Starting point is 01:41:43 Write a summary on the Bible. Write a summary on the Bible. Write a summary on Old Testament. Write a summary. And like bullet points, what are they teaching us? Forgive your diss. The neighbor diss. You know, adultery diss. Wife diss.
Starting point is 01:41:57 You know, with friends who say, okay, mother diss. The protecting rights. So just put those values and principles. What's wrong with that? The problem to me isn't freaking increasing the age. The problem to me is we are no longer selling the values and principles that made America such a great country where people around the world wanted to come
Starting point is 01:42:18 and raise their families here. That's the permanent problem at them. And I think that's what we're having issues with. When's the last time you saw somebody like even when's the last time you saw somebody on Fox or MSNBC or CNN just praying. When's the last time say, Hey, I just want to do prayer. Can we do prayer? Here's what I want to pray. And you pray for peace, you pray for forgiveness, you pray for you know improving, you pray for a lot of you pray you. I mean, again, I don't this is pouring stuff. None of us wanted to hear this stuff from don't this is pouring stuff. None of us wanted to hear this stuff from our parents when we were kids. None of us wanted to hear. But guess what?
Starting point is 01:42:50 Those who did benefit it from it. Those who didn't didn't benefit from it. So that's what I'm saying where I'm not looking for like, hey, let's just pass it. It's only going to take 5%. But I think what you're saying is there needs to be some action steps here. Yeah, but because thoughts and prayers alone are going to get this down. No, no, but Patrick just, he just confirmed my argument. I'm going to tell you something very personal. My mother got pregnant. There's gonna be some action steps here. Because thoughts and prayers are low and are gonna get this done. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I was embarrassed that my mother had a child out of wedlock, that she wanted my mother to abort me. My grandmother did, which was not uncommon back then. You didn't have a child out of wedlock. My grandmother forced my mother,
Starting point is 01:43:33 and this is the story my mother told me Patrick, and I can reveal it now, that she got pregnant with my father, sonny, but my father was married at that time, okay? He couldn't get a divorce because the divorce was weren't allowed at that time in the mob Wasn't allowed to do it my grandmother forced my mother to marry someone just so that it would appear that she was married when I was born, right? The point being is the the morality back then you didn't have a child out of wedlock. It was the wrong thing to do
Starting point is 01:44:03 You just you just said it. Teach the parents. What parents? There's usually one person. If you do a study on all of these kids, and I think I read something, I'm not sure, but most of these mass shootings were done by kids that were between the ages of 20 and 26, something like that.
Starting point is 01:44:22 I'm not positive, but I think that's what I heard. Okay, if you go into the background of these kids, I guarantee you're gonna see it was a messed up family or no family life at all. So that's the root of the problem. How do you change that? When you're giving contraceptives to kids when they're 9, 10, 12 or whatever it is,
Starting point is 01:44:39 in high school without the parents' knowledge, it's okay, you don't even have to ask. So these kids are having sex. Oh, it's no problem now, go get an abortion. So you abort, you know, 300,000 babies a year through plant parenthood, but this is all okay. It's a breakdown in morality. So yes, I agree with you.
Starting point is 01:44:57 You know, maybe you save 5%, but you've got to do something. It's almost like you're working backwards. But it's a bad thing. Yeah, you're right. But you're almost like working backwards it's a band-aid. Yeah, you're right. But you're almost like working backwards. I don't think so. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:45:08 Like, for example, like, I, I, again, guys, please push back. Like, if, if I have a leak in my argument, identify it. So, for example, like, you know how they're saying, well, you know, let's, let's cancel school debt. No, I don't think that's the right. But we're making progress. No, we're not. Why not? Because
Starting point is 01:45:27 college tuition inflation has increased 200% in the last 40-some years. College tuition has increased 1200%. Education hasn't improved the thousand percent. No, what about we lower tuition? Okay, your salary in the last 40 years has only gone from $22,000 to $47,000. It's only gone up 120, 130%. College has gone up 1,200%. No, before you cancel college yet, I'm for it. Let's cancel college tuition. A day after we force these universities that are the big capitalists to decrease their tuition by 80%.
Starting point is 01:45:59 Why don't we do that? I'm for it. Why don't you take away their tax exempts? Yeah, why don't we do that? So why don't we take away their tax exempt? Why should they be tax exempt? If you want you take away their tax exempts? Yeah. Why don't we do that? So why don't we take away their tax exempt? Why should they be tax exempt? If you want to take away their tax exempt, do that, then the next day I'm all in for
Starting point is 01:46:11 Kingston Gold School did. Agreed. I'm with that. No, no, no, no, we can't do that. Because you don't want to hold the institutions that gave you that certificate that for 40 years you've been bragging about how big of a deal that piece of paper is. No, no. You have to say that because you're part of that gang so for me when we're talking about
Starting point is 01:46:29 well like levic just commented right in our minion guy and he says uh... he says as an Armenian we mourn on April 24 due to government in 1908 that took away our guns from people then killed one and a half million Armenians 750,000 the Syrians 500,000 Greeks that's what we need firearms and lots of them levicvic, I'm saying to you, I want more people to be trained. I would love 100% of Americans to be trained on how to use guns who are not on medication, who are not dealing with mental health, who have a good background on a past that's been cleared up. I'm okay with them, but I don't want anybody off the street
Starting point is 01:47:00 to be able to go by within five minutes. I don't want that, but that still doesn't solve the issue. To me, the issue is, like, you know, like, we look up to people. And naturally, whoever you hang around, you're gonna pick up some other habits. Very few people have a strong enough of a personality that they can be around a lot of bad people and still not do anything. Very few. I be around a lot of bad people and still not do anything.
Starting point is 01:47:25 Very few. I was around a lot of drugs, never like drugs. Never. I tried a few of them, I'm like, I just don't like them, right? But I was around it. My best friend died because he started off with cigarettes then weed, alcohol, and he died on Vike then, right? Okay, so one of our friends just committed suicide
Starting point is 01:47:44 this week. Heartbreaking story I got out of nowhere like a guy I've been Okay, so one of our friends just committed suicide this week, heart breaking story. I got out of nowhere like a guy I've been doing business for 12 years, moral and iron, the phones, just emotional, marios and crime. Anyways, this guy took his life, he's got a daughter, what is he going through? Yeah, so we need a leader that's giving the message
Starting point is 01:48:01 of, listen man, your mom and dad, you guys disagree with him when it comes on topolit man, your mom and dad, you guys disagree with you when it comes on to politics, your last name matters, your heritage matters, unite. One of my guys want to call me and he says, let me tell you what my sister's doing and let me tell you what my brother's doing. I said listen bro, hey, whatever your brother's doing, whatever your sister's doing, it's you only got one blood. Figure it out, make it work, unite, and disagree is fine, but figure it out with a make
Starting point is 01:48:24 it work. You only got a couple of sisters. I'm not telling you go hang out and buy into the philosophy, but it work, unite, and disagree is fine, but figure out where to make it work. You only got a couple of sisters. I'm not telling you go hang out and buy into the philosophy, but it's your blood. Have some respect for your own family. Okay, God, that makes sense. We're not giving messages like that. Messages isn't about somebody from the top needs to re-inject the right morals, values and principles that gets us to make better decisions.
Starting point is 01:48:45 And we say, that is somebody I admire. Our hero making machine today is the biggest problem. And it sucks. We're turning the wrong people into hero. The Patrick, as soon as that person comes out, the other side kills him. And there's such a debate over it's so cool. No, no problem. It's no problem.
Starting point is 01:49:02 It's going to happen. It's going to happen. But you don't't need to listen. I learned a long time ago I learned a long time ago because I lost one of the guys that you know I looked up to a lot and then there was a fallen out with this person and I this is in the early 2000s And he went one side. I went one side like oh God, without this person, I can never make it, okay? Broke my heart. And this relationship was lost because, you know, he wanted me to do certain things
Starting point is 01:49:30 I just didn't wanna do, but I admired him a lot. Okay, this isn't a business deal that we're doing. I didn't wanna do what he wanted to do with the business side. So I said, man, without him, I can never make it. That's the phase I went through. I'm 22, 23 years old. I'm thinking there's no way I can make it without this guy. There's no way I can make it without this guy. There's no way I can make it without this guy.
Starting point is 01:49:45 There's no way I can make it without this guy. And then you get bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger. You're like, yeah, my values didn't match up with him. You need to write people when you find them lock them and especially the people that believe in you and their strong value principles. But you don't need everybody. You don't need everybody to come.
Starting point is 01:50:01 We don't need to convert everybody into a living a better life. We just need more. 1% if you convert that 1% will impact 80%. You need 1% who's messaging inspires people. You don't need everybody's messaging to inspire. You only need 1% that makes an argument. It didn't take 50 bathroom macon haze. It took one math to your macon and we were like,
Starting point is 01:50:23 all right, you don't need a thousand people that are giving a message that makes sense. You need one person for a person to say, for thousands of to say, Jordan Peterson is one man. How many has he inspired? You got a lot of people that are like, you know what, he kind of makes sense. He got, look at you, how many people you think you,
Starting point is 01:50:41 and you don't even know it. How many people you think you've indirectly encouraged to not go live their life? Well, I hear a lot of that on a daily basis. But not the people you hear. Forget about the people you hear. Right, you're right. How many that you don't hear, that's the real number,
Starting point is 01:50:58 it's not the people that come up to us. It's the person that's in, you know, in Portugal that watches you, that you will never meet this man. Right. And he was about to take someone's life and he was about to go in a different direction. All of a sudden, like, well, if Michael's going to say that and he lived that life and he says, not worth it, I'm not going to do it. So I don't think it's winning everyone over. We never will.
Starting point is 01:51:18 We never have. But I think that one person of inspiration of the leaders rising up to start talking about the right morals, values and principles. I think we're going to see a turn. So yeah, even though I think that one percent of inspiration of the leaders rising up to start talking about the right morals values and principles. I think we're going to see a turn. So yeah, even though I did that social experiment, I want to go to those guns. I'm like, yeah, that's still not going to do anything. If we went to five to 10 percent, it's going to be impacted. I think we need to go back to being better at developing leaders. I think we need to go back to talking about the right values and principles. I think we need to readjust who we turn into heroes. And I think if we do that, it's going to inspire the right amount of people. It goes back to what we said, what I said earlier, there's got to be some catastrophic
Starting point is 01:51:52 event. You know what you're describing? I guarantee Christians that I think this, you're describing the Antichrist. The guy that's going to come and it's going to unite the world. Unfortunately, that's the wrong person that we want because it's going to be misleading, obviously. But that's the person you're describing. I think, unless there is some kind of catastrophic event that really changes the mindset and said, this is not working, we're really going down the rabbit hole that we're going in a bad place. I don't know how
Starting point is 01:52:19 you reverse it, Patrick. I don't know. when I said you're starting backwards, you know, you're working backwards with, you know, these gun control things, I think it's a, it's a rational step to take because kids are irresponsible at 18 years old, even under the best of circumstances, most of the times they are raised the limit to 21. What do they need it at 18 for? Any, I'm trying to think, what do you need it for? What are you going to do with it? I Oh just because I'm an American that's my freedom Well, you know what we can raise the age limit. You can't drink until you're 21
Starting point is 01:52:51 You don't buy a gun until you're 21. I don't and I think that again people say okay That's rational we can do it it makes sense But there's more of an issue there. There's more of an issue and to me it all goes down the root of the problem is The breakup of the family in this people People, kids just don't get the right training. You know, in this life, you know this Patrick, better than anybody. And so we, we are who we are accountable to. When I was on the street, I was accountable to my oath. I was accountable to my boss. And I was a criminal. I was a result of that. That's my accountability. When I left that life, I'd be kind of accountable
Starting point is 01:53:26 to my God, my wife, my kids. I don't wanna make a mistake, stay on the right path. So these young kids, they don't have accountability in the right place and they're never going to get it. You know, I used Mike Tyson as a perfect example. This kid had more arrests than half the mob did before he was 12 years old until he meets custom model. And it was a life-changing experience for him.
Starting point is 01:53:49 He never had anything. If you talk to him, a cuss was like a god to him. Why? Because you gain proper training that you're supposed to get in your house. They're not getting it. And you know, it's, I don't see how you reverse this. I just don't see unless some kind of, and I don't see how you reverse this. I just don't see unless some kind of, and I don't know what that event is. I don't, I don't know what it could be. I
Starting point is 01:54:10 don't have the solution. But something has got to happen to make people say, Hey, you just validated my point with cuss. You just validated the point with cuss. It took one person cuss. I'm not talking about the next Ronald Reagan were waiting for the next Billy Graham or Jesus. I'm talking about we need more cusses. Yes. That's what I mean. Where did they come? They're in the house. Where do you find them? Well, no, what I'm saying to you is we need to turn them into heroes. The hero making machine is the problem because we don't know them. Those stories need to be told. Like the teacher that plays a role of a father figure for a kid who was a nobody and the kid ends up becoming a great citizen. Where is
Starting point is 01:54:48 that story? That's the story we need to tell. Not, hey, this kid's a trans, let's tell this. What do you talk like? What, what, who are you trying to inspire with that? What do you, what do you, what are you doing with that part? That's keep it to yourself. If that's what you want to do fine. We don't say, hey, here's this family. This is how they like to sexually please each other. This is the position they use. But keep it to yourself, whatever you want to do with that part. You don't need to bring that to my life.
Starting point is 01:55:12 I know, but you see, you're teaching your kids that that's the kind of person they have to look up to because you're teaching them that. They look up to you and they look up to that person because you're showing them that. What about the kid in the house that has nobody to tell them this is who you should be looking at. But I'm from a broken family. I'm coming from a divorce family. My dad was a 99 cents from my mom went back to Iran because we ran out of money. I had another man that I looked up to, Lutair Al-Hasey. That just passed away two years ago and I, you know, my dad played a role of, hey,
Starting point is 01:55:40 values, values, values, values, values. He made me as a man, but I needed an inspiration for somebody. He said, well, values, values, values, values, values. He made me as a man, but I needed an inspiration for somebody to say, well, maybe when they can be successful, even though I've got no grades going for myself. I've got nothing going for myself. I think, but how much of an impact did your dad have on you? 100%. That's it. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 01:55:57 100%. No question about it. But even if we don't, we can have people that set the tone with what the right values and principles are to live by. Even if we don't, we can have people that set the tone with what the right values and principles are to live by. I think this issue is more internal than it looks. The thing about taking it from 18 to 21, I'll put the math brain on. Listen, when did we decide that the guns are at 18 years old?
Starting point is 01:56:17 Kai, what was the age that they decided on 18 years old? What was the age? When did they decide that math has got to be 18 years old? You know, age has got to be 18 years old. To every conservative NRA card carry a member, you're not gonna like what I'm gonna tell you, but I'm gonna bring the math hat on, okay? And think like an actuary.
Starting point is 01:56:35 1968, what was the life expectancy in 1968? Six, three. Okay, let's see here, 1968 life expectancy. Okay, 1968 life expectancy is what? What is it? 71? 73. Okay. No, the previous 70 and 0.2 19. Okay, so 70.2. What's today's life expectancy? Okay? So 70.2 was then life expectancy today is what? Go bigger, bigger? 78.7 okay 78.7 is today. What is that eight years?
Starting point is 01:57:08 1968 18 eight years 26 that's called math So the 18 years old of 1968 is 26 years old today. That's what an actually would do. We're living longer today So when you're arguing about 18 years old we're living a longer life anyways So even 21 that means you have five additional units than you would have had in 1968. If a liberal sees what I just said, they can run with this and a liberal economist can put this up and make the argument, but you're going to, that does kind of make sense. Do you understand what I just said right there? No, I'm just doing a math side, logically, like it or don't like it, just logically we can do that if we really don't want to go that route. Anyway, the strong argument against that is exactly what Adam said.
Starting point is 01:57:43 Yeah. Then why should you, why should you not have to wait till 21 to drink? If you can hold a gun, an assault weapon, why should you have to wait till 20 to drink? I don't disagree with that part. I don't disagree with that part. All I'm saying is, for me, I want to find a long-term solution rather than another band-aid. That's what I want to put. Can you go to my Twitter, Kai? We'll finish with this.
Starting point is 01:58:10 If you can go to Twitter, just go to Twitter real quick. On Twitter and go to my last tweet, whatever it is. Just go to my, go go the lore. That's us. Go the lore, the lore, the lore. Is that one right? Okay, right. However, the one that says how we're lower, go lower, go above it.
Starting point is 01:58:27 Okay, go above it because it's two tweets above it, right? Okay, and make it zoom in a little bit. Okay, so check this out. So tracking inflation since January of 2021, January 2020, and inflation was 1.4%. March 2021, two months later, 2.6, we gave the 1.9 trillion dollar COVID relief. July 2021, six months later 2.6 we gave the 1.9 trillion dollar COVID relief July 2021 6 months that a 5.4 dams proposed 3.9 trillion dollar budget plan
Starting point is 01:58:49 November 2021 it goes from 1.4 to 6.8% Biden signs 1 trillion dollar infrastructure package March 2020 to 7.9 April 2022 8.3 May 2022 8.6 bad policies have consequences. Printing money has consequences. Here's my concern. What both sides of the aisle have done to delay the time bomb that the market is experiencing behind us. There's nothing that can be done about the past to blame.
Starting point is 01:59:16 However, here's the last part. When we officially go into recession the next few weeks, let's not bring back quantitative easing to delay the pain for another 10 more years. Let the economy naturally rebuild itself. It'll be painful for those who constantly get bailed out, but it'll serve the next generation. My interest is permanent solutions. That's my interest. Tomor Tachma, what we're talking about is gun laws. None of these are permanent solutions. They're all permanent. They're all temporary. How much resistance is going to be there not to go on the day to you kidding me to get reelected, they're going to do a two-trillion when recession comes they're going to do another
Starting point is 01:59:53 two trillion dollars. Exactly. And guess what people are going to vote for to get another two-trillion dollars. Exactly. But we have to let some of these guys go out of business. Price needs to be paid unfortunately we don't want any of it. We keep the lane to pain for the next generation. Anyways, gang, if you enjoyed today's podcast, give it a thumbs up, subscribe to the channel and go buy the book. If you haven't yet, we're going to put the link below to the book. We have one last thing that I want to tell you guys about, Michael, you have a wine that just came up. Tell us about the wine. I'm gonna tell you this story. I'm gonna sum it up. Noah's Ark, when it landed in Armenia and the flood subsided, the first vineyards on Earth under the new civilization were grown in Armenia
Starting point is 02:00:35 at the foot of Mount Ararat, transforming for the whole world. Correct? My story is kind of transforming. So a Armenian brother of yours, not brother of yours, approached me with this, and I gotta tell you this, I love this young man. I have so much respect for him. He's 23 years old, but he's the exactly the young man
Starting point is 02:00:56 that I'm talking about. Raised in a good home, his parents are wonderful. He's driven, you've been his, one of his idols for the last 10 years. Also me, he'll, I didn't know when he was 10 years old. He was looking at us Unbelievable. This is the way kids should be brought up because he is going to be a success He came to me with this whole thing Mr. Michael. He calls me He said you know, I want to brand this wine in your name. He told me the
Starting point is 02:01:19 Meaning I said Armenian most wine comes out of you know Italy of France But I love the story so much and what he said I said I Armenia, most wine comes out of Italy, France, but I love the story so much. And what he said, I said, I'm buying it to this. Let's do it. And he's been the power behind this. He hasn't been made. He used the name. We're working together.
Starting point is 02:01:32 But the wine is great. We got five more varieties coming in. Relations, he did all the work. We're going to be all over the country and now all over the world. We're moving it to the United Kingdom and everywhere else. But it's a great product. People are liking it. And I'm very happy., but it's a great product people are liking it and I'm very happy what can people get it?
Starting point is 02:01:47 What can people buy it online now you can get direct to consumer? We're in almost all 50 states it takes it's a process to get everywhere and Again, we're going out. So we're gonna be global at some point in time, but online sales have been going very good We're approaching Costco. It looks like they're gonna take it Cisco food is just going to take it. We'll soon be in Ralph's supermarket in LA. People are really buying into it and I'm very proud of the young man. You know what Patrick, I like this young man so much. I want this to succeed more for him than I do even for the product. What's the
Starting point is 02:02:22 name of the wine exactly is and a nice one. Oh wow. Franz is wine. Where can people get it Michael? Right now online at Franzyswine.com. Can you put that link below? The link's already in there. Okay. Franzyswine.com. Yeah, right now we got three varieties and we got five more coming in and we put it all through the taste. People are loving it and I'm very, this might be the biggest thing that I ever do. How's that?
Starting point is 02:02:45 Awesome. Wow. Yes. Well, congratulations, Sam and to you, Michael, love the logo. I can't wait to try it. And again, folks, if you're a wine drinker, go support the wine. We'll put the link below. But make sure you buy mafia democracies. Well, I think Jedadai is about to go live if she hasn't already, right?
Starting point is 02:03:02 She went live at one o'clock. She's going to be on her channel. She's blowing up if you guys want to go live if she hasn't already right she went live at one o'clock. She's gonna be on her channel She's blowing up if you guys want to go check her out. She'll be live or we are on Get set oh get set us tomorrow. Yeah father is here tomorrow. Fantastic. That's gonna be a lot of fun Tomorrow as well. So folks have a great one. We'll see you guys tomorrow Michael once again Thank you for coming out man. This was awesome. Thank you guys. Bye bye. Bye bye. Bye bye Thank you for coming out, man. This was awesome. Thank you guys. Bye bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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