PBD Podcast - Fort Hood Death Penalty, Porsche’s 20% Price Hike & Vance Bans Microsoft's Visas | PBD Podcast #870

Episode Date: October 9, 2026

Patrick Bet-David and the Home Team break down the Fort Hood shooter’s death penalty, Porsche’s plan to raise top-end prices 20%, and JD Vance’s visa showdown with Microsoft. The discussion tack...les public executions, Porsche’s fight to restore profits, and the battle over American jobs and foreign labor.━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━🪙 GET A LIMITED EDITION COIN: https://bit.ly/3W0RoPj👞 Get the NEW Billionaire Suede Loafer: https://bit.ly/4ym5oRA👕 SHOP THE ICON COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/3TuUU3x👞 GET THE FLB1's: https://bit.ly/4mC4uf6Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4kSVksoⓂ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj🇰 KALSHI: http://kalshi.com/pbd━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━SUBSCRIBE TO:@VALUETAINMENT@BetDavidConsulting@vtgenz@ValuetainmentComedy━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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Starting point is 00:00:03 Did you ever think you would make it? I said I'm supposed to take sweet victory. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signs. Right here. You are a 101?
Starting point is 00:00:21 My son drive, I don't think I've ever said this before. You don't, you don't watch. Anyways, Adam's here trying to tell us that a player is a very good. player, MVP type of candidate, and I keep trying to tell Adam, Adam, you don't know about sports. Especially basketball. He wants to be a sports commentator nonstop and Stephen A. Smith puts him in his place every time we're together. But anyway, let me tell you some good news. Elon Musk chose out of all the companies he's competing against. Like, let me, let me go pick on an industry. So guess what industry is picking on? He's picking on Verizon AT&T and T-Mobile saying,
Starting point is 00:00:58 I can provide better service for your customers than you can. And not only that, all those dead spots that you guys keep losing your phone. Like when I go up to Palm Beach, I lose service at Ramboyton Beach or Bocca every single time if you're on AT&T. Or off the 210 freeway in Glendale, when you're going from Granada Hills and you go off that 210, you know which one I'm talking about like Roxford and Silmar? Yeah. Right over that seven minute. You have no service. Well, Elon's trying to say, I'll give you service there, okay? Or when your internet goes out and what is the local infinity? Infinity. Is that what it is? Infinity's out. Infinity's out. Infinity's out. Infinity's out. Oh,
Starting point is 00:01:33 infinity's out, but we forgot to tell you guys that we're out. This guy wants to compete in that market. So the day he announces this, Verizon, everyone's numbers are down 7% just based off an announcement. Everybody's. He gets in that. Now, whether he's going to get into the phone business or not, we'll talk about that as well. Porsche, hires a new CEO. You know who their new CEO is? He used to be with Porsche back in the days. Then he leaves Porsche to go become the CTO. of Ferrari. Then he leaves Ferrari to go become the CEO of McLaren. Then he comes back to Porsche. And guess what he wants to do to Porsche? He wants to Ferrarify Porsche is what he wants to do. That's a new verb. So right now, Porsche produces around 330,000 cars a year. And he wants to say, no, we're going to go to
Starting point is 00:02:24 200,000 cars a year. And the top line car prices, I'm going to raise them by 20%. So if you're paying $250 for a Porsche 9-11 Turbo OS, guess what? It's going to be $300,000. And they're about to announce a new October 15, I think they're announcing a new supercar. It's called Mission S. Oh. It's mission S.
Starting point is 00:02:44 To redick. So he wants to go like this. He's going high car. And so a lot of people are saying, are you going to get rid of the lower level cars? Are you going to get rid of the boxer, the cayenne, all this stuff? What are you going to be doing? Because are you going to try to serve the average day person that can go buy a $70,000 car that can't afford to buy a $300,000?
Starting point is 00:03:00 and all the car. People are concerned. We'll talk about that. I think it's a great story. In the meantime, Starbucks. Today I'm driving in the car. I'm getting ready. My girls decide to come with me. I got a real cute picture. I'll show you guys here in a minute. Each of them has a real Alisa, can you take a picture with them with both of their shirts on and send it to me? Maybe they can come visit here in a minute. Not right now like in 20 minutes. But Brooklyn looks at me. She says, Daddy, you can't go to Starbucks anymore while she's eating her yogurt. I said, why can't I go to Starbucks anymore? Because they put slime. She's five years old. They put slime. And Mickey told me, you can't drink it.
Starting point is 00:03:31 You can't go to Starbucks anymore. So really? Story comes out that all the sugar situation. I don't know if you got the... Oh, the no sugar, it's sugar. Yeah, the sugar story. And guess what Brian Nicol decides to do? He whispers to the market,
Starting point is 00:03:44 hey, everybody, what if Starbucks bought Chipotle? Wait, what? Yes, now keep in mind. The guy who was the former CEO of Chipotle. Comes to Starbucks. He fixed Chipotle. He took Chipotle from $7 billion to $71. billion dollar company. Ten X's valuation comes to Starbucks. The day announced that he's
Starting point is 00:04:05 going to be the CEO of Starbucks. Starbucks's valuation goes up $20 billion just on the announcement. His comp was like $199 million. And people bitched about it, $150, $190 million. Real money. And today he announces, what if we bought Chipotle? Can you imagine like Chipotle and Starbucks? Like, can I get a chicken combo bowl with a Frappuccino? That's kind of a weird to me. It's kind of a weird flavor. I don't know what it is, but we'll definitely get into that story. In the meantime, there's this guy, there's a lot of famous Joe's. There's a lot of famous Joe's out there.
Starting point is 00:04:37 You got, you know, Joe Lonsdale, billionaire with Palantir. You got Joe Biden, right? You got Joe Burrow. You got Joe Burrough, who is two and two. Joe Namath. Joe Nameth. But there's a guy named Joe Rogan that just got a quarter of a billion dollar renewal contract in the podcast space from Spotify.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Good. that that deal is apparently done as well. The announcement is out there. And at Microsoft, J.D. Vance, a little pissed at Microsoft, comes out of sense, let me get the straight. So you decide to lay up 6,000 people, U.S. workers. You're like, oh, we got to cut back. While you're laying off these 6,000 American workers,
Starting point is 00:05:19 you file for 6,000 H-1B visas that I know you're applying for and obtaining roughly 3,000 green cards, 80% of the 6,000 HV visas were exonerated. Extensions or status changes for existing employees. J.D. Manx comes on and says, hey, we're not doing that. He gets involved. And there's a bunch of commentary that we'll talk about that as well. Another stat that is very interesting.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Vinny's following this very closely. Adam is like follows the data like a stock. So the number of ninth grade girls that identify as lesbians has dropped from 30% to 17%. How? Weird. How? I wonder why. I wonder why that number blew up on their bribes.
Starting point is 00:06:00 We're more ninth grade girls. We're identifying as lesbians, where we have military leaders who are transgender leaders that we have to watch every single day. Oh, he is so intimidating. He is so intimidating going into these meetings. Finally, we get rid of freaking insanity and logic is back. And you know what's always sitting next to me? This right here, the gaybc's. This book right here.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Why do kids need to read stuff like this? For what? If they're going to do it, let them do it after 18 years old. Why put this in their head early on? And you know what people are saying? saying, UCLA expert, she's like, well, we can't be to hurry to tie it to anything because you may be taking that away from people, you know, and they're going through it. Leave the flipping kids alone.
Starting point is 00:06:42 It's the one thing that Democrats are hurting their chances with every election they're going into because they are afraid of this, of getting canceled. But logic says from CDC, kids don't want to be lesbians right now. They don't identify themselves as that I wonder why. And then aside from that Fordhood shooting, a lot of people have different positions on this one. Hexit comes out and says, oh, you want to kill 13 of our soldiers and you want to put 32 of them in the hospital and then you want us to feel sorry for you and just kind of give you a death penalty and you do it privately and nobody sees it. No, no, no, no, no. Bring back public
Starting point is 00:07:14 execution. Same day, same time, same place, in front of people and we're going to live stream it. What? Yes. Will YouTube even allow that to be seen? If you think about that, it's a real thing. that, you know, will YouTube allow people to see it? Probably not. Or will it be something that X will, and you put it on X, or do you need to go on some of these crazy, you know, what did it call those black, dark websites, whatever, dark web, to see this stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:40 It is a live, you know, execution. Like he's going, we're going back to World War II, the way you did stuff like, you got to hear this video, and we'll have a debate. And I want to know what you think about it. Good, bad, ugly, maybe your position is different. The Cornell girl, I mean, every time I, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:57 This Cornell, Vinnie found her Instagram. We can't give her name, apparently, but we looked up who she's on Instagram. Adam was trying to DM, but that's a different conversation. That's neither here nor there, Patrick. This girl, apparently, more new texts came out, and with these new texts that came out, you know what's crazy? I don't even want to tell you what they did to one of the guys.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Tom was telling me, I thought it was Tom's telling me. Tom's telling me. They did. I hate to say it. This is what the news says. You're good, Pat? You just went there visually. Is that what you did?
Starting point is 00:08:31 Is that what you did? I can't even tell you. I already knew what you're thinking in your head. At first I thought Tom was like back in college. I'm like, Tom, you can't tell me stuff like this. I'm sitting there having a serious preparation for the podcast. Tom's telling me about his college stores. And then I find that it's not him.
Starting point is 00:08:43 It's the guy. But I don't want to get both of things. Let's just stay serious. Don't get serious. I'm reenacted. Don't. Then another stat comes out is Jane Doe defended the gang bang in text. Bang, bang.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Like, you know, and then we have this, this Cornell girl, not the Cornell girl, Kentucky. Did you see the stats on abortions? This is one of the craziest stats you'll see how the state of Kentucky, how many abortions they had the year before, and what happens to the following year? The stock looks like what happened to E Toys 15 years ago. It looks like, boom, a drop like this. You go from a dollar stock to a penny stock, you're out of business. And then one of the clips, if we get time to get into it, this one clip I want you to see is, the six-year-old kid
Starting point is 00:09:25 shoots the teacher. I mean, at first I'm going in the comment section because it's like this is AI. No, no, it's not a yet. No, there's no way this is real. And then after he shoots the teacher, the teacher's holding him, he's like, hey, shut up, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
Starting point is 00:09:43 what cops show up? Shot, shot the teacher. And Vinny's like, this is real. I don't believe this is real. I'm going to show to him. What we do, we're going to do earmuffs for some of you guys that got kids. Just be prepared for it. It's a little crazy when you look at this. And then last but not least, there's a clip I got to show you guys for some of you that are grandpas of this kid who drops her toy over the bridge.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And the grandpa's trying to jump over to get the doll for the granddaughter. Don't make it scratch. You're making us like, I'm in shambles at the end of these podcasts. Daughters are watching a podcast. Where's the Brooklyn? I tell Brooklyn to get in there. There she is. My baby, baby, baby.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I'm letting you know, Pat, the last two podcasts, I was an emotional wreck for at least an hour. I got messages. People are saying, why are you making Tom? I'm like, what did I do? All I did is I just asked the question. Yeah. I brought some stories. Anyways, for those of you guys that joined, we have our crew in the back that, uh, so today,
Starting point is 00:10:42 one of the disclaimers I want to put for all of you is if some of the stories come out in Chilean or Spanish, just forgive us because, you know, there may be some technical difficulties with that. of that guy. And last but not least, I want to give a shout out to somebody. We were having dinner, weird story with Kevin Spacey, okay, and a guy in a restaurant that Alper told me, Alper, you know you told me this place is quiet. Oh, you got the Jordan table. This is the loudest restaurant in the world that's called Pinksteak or something like that. It was great. DJ Khalid was our waiter, Callow.
Starting point is 00:11:18 No, no, literally. Caled. I think he's from Morocco. We're the best. He was phenomenal. And we're having a conversation with Evan Lowenstein, who him and his brother, Evan and Jaron, used to do a song back in a day. Crazy for this girl. I can't believe that was. And he tells a story about his dad that watches the podcast, 85-year-old man, Mr. Chuck Lowenstein. I want to give a shout out to you.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And I know what country you're from. I'm not going to say it. And where you are right now? Where are you watching from? He says, tell Patrick, tell PBD that I have his backpack. He bought it back. And I love the backpack. And give him a shout out that we like the word used to watch.
Starting point is 00:11:50 50% out. And he got 50% off. We're giving Chuck a shout. Chuck, we love you. We appreciate the kind words. I don't know what you did, but you have two very good looking boys that, you know, a little bit too good jeans. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:01 A little too good jeans. Little too handsome. Like pump the brakes. Chill out. And we actually had a Kevin's face. Phenomenomenal. We had a very good conversation. Obviously, you know.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Dessert? And it was good. Anyways. Okay. So, folks, for some of you guys that love the numbered stuff that we do, limited editions one, this one, when I tell you it's going to go, it's going to go because it comes with a certificate of authenticity and the sticker hologram that tells you
Starting point is 00:12:25 this is limited edition and there's only a hundred of them. A couple different types of coins that we launch for the 250 year anniversary that we have. I have a Bitcoin collection in my house, a Bitcoin collection, and I bought coins for many, many years. And I just set them aside and I sit on them and somehow somewhere years later,
Starting point is 00:12:42 I find that I 100x devaluation or whatever it is. But I want you to watch this clip. And if you're somebody that, say, collects unique things, this may be something you may want to buy, Set it aside, put it in your safe and don't think about it for a decade or two. Go for it. Our fantasy commission says for him it's all about the friendships. Cute, Kevin.
Starting point is 00:13:01 But I disagree. Like with Bet365. I get paid the second my team goes up big with early payout and can cash out at any time before the game ends. No hard feelings, Kevin. Just faster payouts from Bet365. The home of winning early. Must be 19 and older.
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Starting point is 00:15:34 Again, go to FLB.com, search the word coin. You'll find a coin. If you want to add other stuff to it as well, you can't. All right. With that being said, let's get right into it. first story time I want to get into is the story of SpaceX. So Elon isn't just trying to eliminate dead zones. He is trying to literally become your phone company. And when this announcement was made, let me tell you how scary it was for Verizon. Verizon stock dropped 7.3%. AT&T drops 7.8%.
Starting point is 00:16:04 T-Mobile drops 7%. He agreed to buy roughly $8 billion worth of nationwide 800 megahertz, low-band spectrum from grain management, then the deal gives SpaceX up to 14 megahertz of paired spectrum and comes on top of prior spectrum acquisitions, including roughly $19.6 billion tied to Echo Star Spectrum purchases. SpaceX also has FCC approval for 15,000 Stelion Gen 2 Starling mobile constellation. So all of this stuff means what? This isn't a phone company. So they haven't yet announced that they're going to have their own Tesla competing with iPhone or competing with Android or all the other phones that are out there. This is service.
Starting point is 00:16:45 So he's going to service first. So you ever have a pocket where you're driving? I don't know if you guys got this or not. Every time I drive and I go up to Palm Beach and I pass by Boka, like right between Boca and Boitin, there's about five minutes that AT&T service isn't good. Or if I fly out to go to L.A. And I'm on the 210 freeway, certain pockets of it, certain areas in Dallas, you don't have good service.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Well, with this thing with Starlink, we're on a jet. I'm on a jet. We're going from here to Vegas. We're having phone calls. We're doing Zoom calls. The internet is ridiculous. And we're like, Tom, what the hell is going on with this jet? Starlink.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Now, when you go on flights, they're like, well, we're so sorry. The internet is bad. When they say their Starlink, quality is great. By the way, cable TV internet, infinity sucks right now. Starlink's going to come and say, don't worry about these guys. They are about to take out a lot of different markets. out there, specifically these companies like Verizon AT&T and T-Mobile are shivering of what Starlink and SpaceX could turn into. So Tom, how worried should they be?
Starting point is 00:17:50 Well, they should be very worried, and I'm going to tell you the words that did it. So Elon Musk is going to take Starlink and bring it all the way down and provide internet service. That's not really news, because remember, a certain country, Zelensky, was begging for Starlink to get internet to the people and to its military. So that's been coming. Here's what freaked everybody out. What you just read about is the spectrum deal, exactly as you said. And then this, these words, this will be coupled to an advanced terrestrial deployment.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Advanced terrestrial, you know what terrestrial means, Vinny? Earth. So this will be connected to an advanced Earth deployment, which means that it's not just Starlink, It's also a terrestrial network with all of the billions of dollars he's got to work with and with the old T-Mobile spectrum. When those words came across, the T-Mobile spectrum and connected to an advanced terrestrial deployment, what happened then is, you know, Grain's own legal advisor flipped out and said, wait a minute, that service reaching customers from both space and Earth. So in other words, if there's dead zones, like maybe you're too deep inside of a building for Starlink outside,
Starting point is 00:19:14 don't worry about it because they're also going to supplement it. So when you put those two things together, Pat, that's what freaked out all those stocks. Everybody goes, wait a minute. He's not just going to put a blanket from space. He's going to fill in gaps in major cities and concrete buildings from the Earth side, and he's doing with the spectrum. When both of those things came out, boom, all the futures. What you saw, the stocks went down, they only went down 7%.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Why did they go down more than that, Vinny? Because in every stock you have today's value based on your business and how valuable you are today and a speculation of the future. That's when you'll see, Jensen Wang says he's going to sell another 9,000 chips to Google. NVIDIA jumps a point. That money hasn't hit the bank. They're talking about selling in the future. But guess what?
Starting point is 00:20:00 Nvidia stock goes up on future speculation and future business. Guess what? Verizon and these guys, the 7% that just went down, that's part of their future business. And the question's going to be, you know, how quickly can Elon do this? But you know what? Elon Musk just became, he's sort of a combination of Thomas Edison and E.F. Hutton. Do you remember E.F. Hutton? When E.F. Hutton talks, people listen. Remember that old thing? Of course, yeah. So he's sort of Thomas, Thomas Edison and E.F. Hutton. Well, I would tell you this.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Here's a question. Can we run a poll on the back? This is the question I got for you, folks. If you knew those dead zones that you deal with, with AT&T, with Verizon, with T-Mobile. And if you have any, post in the comment section. Do you know the dead zones? What areas you have bad service? Name the areas that you get bad service and who you're with.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Well, here it's not that bad. But, like, for instance, my sister's driving on the 405 to LAX because she works at the Space Force. Pat, there's a stretch of road for five minutes. And it's not a bridge. She's not going through a bridge or a tunnel. It's on the 405 from the 101. Completely done. And then when they go into the hills.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Who's her phone with? I don't. Can you text it while she's not up? No, she's up. She's up. Do you have any dead zones yourself that you drive through? Here in South Florida. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Always around Hollywood near the airport. Near the airport. Yeah. Do you experience any time? And you're AT&T? I'm also AT&T. Absolutely. When I go into my backyard to talk to you, you'll say, Tom.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I can't hear you. Tom, what's going on? Wow, right there. And that's when I always say, I'm sorry, Pat, I walk back. I got it. I'm going to the front of my house, the back of my house, everything there, Coral Ridge on the back. So if you knew that 100% of those dead zones are going to be gone, would you switch to Starlink? I would paint my roof with Elon, start here.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Are you being sarcastic or serious? I am being serious. Start here. Is that big of a problem for you here? When you're a businessman and you're a salesperson, you're on the phone with a client, you're trying to confirm there's nothing more annoying than call drops. and you're down the street from the house. A business person is on the phone all the time. Not if you're a social media person,
Starting point is 00:22:04 but a business person that's calling and talking all the time, that's a problem for me. Can we run a poll? Here's the poll. If Starlink eliminated 100% of the dead zones, would you leave AT&T, Verizon, and whoever you're with for Starlink? Yes, no.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I'm just curious to know what people would say. My sister's AT&T. She's also AT&T. She's also AT&T. I've been with AT&T. I switched from AT&T to Verizon for two weeks. You know why I switched back to AT&T? one feature. Verizon would only let you do three-way with two people. Okay. And AT&T allows me to do
Starting point is 00:22:33 three-way calls with five, six, seven people. And by the way, AT&T is screwed up their three-way calls lately. It's been pretty bad lately. But something tells me AT&T's three-ways work at Cornell still right now. And let me ask you a question, Matt. So there's another angle. Because we're always learning. Tom still loves that one. So, okay, so he's obviously, this is one of the reasons. Remember, like, I think it was like a month ago or two months ago, I was asking, man, it's like every week Elon's launching something and like you don't even pay attention every day they're launching launching launching launching this is probably one of the
Starting point is 00:23:04 reasons obviously but my question is as the competitors what is what is AT&T because think about it how are their satellites up there Pat that goes through our government who's launching the AT&T Verizon you know sprint who puts all their stuff into the
Starting point is 00:23:19 into the orbit Tom is it a deal with NASA how are they launching how are they getting their stuff up there how are they going to space is putting it up there. No, what I'm saying is, how was all the other carriers doing it? They have to go through NASA and somebody else. No, no, no. The other carriers right now
Starting point is 00:23:36 are terrestrial networks. Okay, so it's not even out there. It's all those triangular things. Oh, okay, so it's not even out there. So he's... Yeah, there had been things. IntelSat had some stuff up there. There was some services that were up there, but they were like emergency services or marine services. Okay. If you've ever, take a look at them
Starting point is 00:23:52 cell phone. Hey, guys, go look up a thing. Just go look up on the satellite phone 2025. And you're going to see It's a square phone with a big antenna on it. It works very well for emergencies. It's very expensive. The sap phones. And, yeah, see there?
Starting point is 00:24:07 They're very expensive to use, but they're great if you're out there on the water and you have an emergency. Well, now he's like, don't worry about that. Let's just make it easy. Bro, you're going to be on a plane. You can make phone calls. I mean, this is for business people, this is incredible. So let me ask you a question, though. As the other guys, what do you do to try to compete with him?
Starting point is 00:24:26 How? It's too late. Okay, that's what I was going to say. So the only thing, the only thing is, is people don't like change. And there's about an age you get to where you don't like to change products because it's just habitual. It takes you a while to change away from certain things. There's people still that get physical newspapers that come in.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Their age doesn't start with two. No, it doesn't. But their age may start with six. Okay, so there's certain people that have been with AT&2 or Verizon for a long time that they'll switch. I'm not talking about Tom. So it's not a Tom thing because Tom is a technology guy. He'll switch with... Anybody that's making it.
Starting point is 00:24:59 So then this becomes the next question. The next question is the following. Sequencing. Elon is all about sequencing. First put all the chargers everywhere. And then know that all your competitors need to use your chargers. And then you know, hey, come on, pay up. You know you're going to need me.
Starting point is 00:25:14 They cut deals with all of them. And they even modified their plugs to work on his chargers. So here's the question. What is the likelihood, Tom, that it's sequencing. First, beat AT&T, beat Verizon, beat those guys. Two, come out with a Tesla phone. What's the likelihood he comes out with a Tesla phone? Extremely.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Give me a number. I think that it's 70% and rising every minute. Because if you look, there has been a Tesla prototype or like an X prototype. And I think you guys find it, guys. Tom, keep talking. He'll look for it. They've done their prototypes on it, and people have seen. There's been the Tesla phone and there's been.
Starting point is 00:25:55 So you think 70% they'll come out with something? I don't think this is a teaser. I think this is on the bench. So you know what this means? You know who this is embarrassing for? Yeah, this is, I think this is not just... No, you know who this is embarrassing for? One company.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Nope, keep going. You're close. One company this is embarrassing for. Apple. So what Apple is doing is, Apple could have done this. They didn't do this. Apple stayed on the phone side.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And Apple's flywheel, if you think on the flywheel side, Elon is expanding his flywheel. What is he doing with the flywheel? Buy the Tesla, buy Starlink, buy a phone. The phone talks to the car. He's going to add his flywheel and expanded where somebody who owns a Tesla, like yesterday, I'm talking to a client, Matthew.
Starting point is 00:26:45 And the entire time he's talking about to two-hour engagement with this client that I met through Manette, I think he's about to sell his business for multibillion dollars, very successful client of ours that we've been doing engagements for a while. and he's talking to me sitting like this. And for about the first minute, I'm like, what is this guy doing?
Starting point is 00:27:01 I see trees moving, everything, moment. I said, are you in a Uber? He says, no. I said, are you in a Tesla? The car is driving. He says, yeah. I said, you're in a driver seat. He says, yes.
Starting point is 00:27:12 For two hours, he's in a driver's seat like this. He's just talking to him. And cars taking a place. Oh, he's on full self drive. He's on full self drive. So what Elon is doing is he's building a full-on flywheel that's going to get people to not be able to leave Tesla or have to go to get this phone if they switch
Starting point is 00:27:30 and they do what we think is about to be done. Adam, your thoughts. I was actually just going to go to this flywheel thing because I want to give a shout out to BDC. You've been talking about the concept of flywheel for a few years now. In one of the articles, it talks about Elon's flywheel. And Humberto, I sent you that if you're with us.
Starting point is 00:27:45 It says this move with SpaceX could potentially fuel his flywheel between launch, Starlink, and AI. And this is what I had AI basically build out. This is Elon's flywheel, it would seem, where SpaceX launches the rockets. Starlink has the satellite internet. This mobile company you're talking about,
Starting point is 00:28:06 the likelihood of it basically being built, is pretty certain at this point, connects the phones, AI, or they call SI these days, with the intelligence, and that leads to revenue and scale, and then it all goes back again. This concept of a flywheel, you've been talking about this for years. It looks like Elon is implementing what you've been...
Starting point is 00:28:23 Power. By the way, the poll says, if Starlink eliminated 100% of the dead zones, would you switch? 86% said yes. And the 14% that said no are the same people that want Social Security to continue. It's a very... The people that are going to want to switch, he's not just going to give you better service.
Starting point is 00:28:43 This guy's creative enough to think about what other things to do. By the way, for some of you guys that are watching this, if you think you're a business person, If you're moving forward nowadays and you don't have a moat with your company, you're making a massive mistake because the market is very, very competitive and it's moving very, very fast. If you run a business, you want to find out how to identify a moat for your business and create your own flywheel. We do this for a living with different business owners from around the world. Go to bed david.com, fill out the information below, schedule time with one of our consultants have a call and we'll sit down and have a strategy session with you. We do this regularly.
Starting point is 00:29:14 But the point is, what's next? What's next with this guy? Okay, what's next? This guy is almost building such a massive thing that every world, I'm talking to a chief of staff of a world leader who's in a middle of a war right now. And one of their main concerns is the relationship with Elon, not Trump. Because the way the guy described that, he says, we know Trump won't be here for two more years.
Starting point is 00:29:44 We know Elon's going to be a problem for the next 20, 30 years. So we better get on. So he is almost becoming, I hate to say this in a, and you got to be, this could go very ugly, very nasty as well. He said this two years ago. You know, depending on where his core is. Because the core is, he is slowly becoming the world leader of all presidents. You don't have a choice.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Our fantasy commission says for him it's all about the friendships. Cute, Kevin. But I disagree. Like with bat three, six five. I get paid the second month. team goes up big with early payout and can cash out at any time before the game ends. No hard feelings, Kevin. Just faster payouts from Bet365.
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Starting point is 00:30:42 Launch a campaign today in minutes with Spotify Ads Manager. They got to come to him. He doesn't need to go to them. So forget about like, hey, I'm the 42nd president of the United States. Like, okay, you all report to me. And you all need what I have to offer because I'm doing a better job than the government is doing. If he builds this into that, listen, this is a very, very different direction this could go to. If the guy's got any evil tendencies in the inside, just, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:12 But thank, but for what it's for the face value right now, I love that he's at least leaning on the conservative mindset of all this woke nonsense, especially the stuff that happened with his son daughter now. And by, but look at the flywheel I just did. Ready for this? Rockets, SpaceX, boring company, drilling into everything, uh, Neurolink, Tesla, cell phones in the future, robots, Twitter to X. He's literally taking over. And I'm telling you right now, if he turns sour, Tom, if he gets pissed off, it's, it could go ugly very very, very, he's, it could go ugly, Very quickly. Very fast. Very quickly. You know, you brought up Apple. There's something very interesting.
Starting point is 00:31:53 The Vision Pro is their mixed reality headset, you know, like kids and gaming and you and me could go into Facebook with and all that crap, right? Do you know what the last major product category was before that? Because that's a new category. They've never done those before. Was AirPods. Do you know what, what year AirPods was? I mean, that's at least five years ago, at least 2000. You're right. 2016. It's 10. 10 years. And then before that it was the Apple Watch, 2,000. Apple is not looking good right now.
Starting point is 00:32:20 So this is the point you made, Pat. 2015 watch, 2016 AirPods, to 2024 Vision Pro, and now 2026 next year, they're going to come out with Home Hub. Okay, fine. But that's hardly, that's hardly like a major category. You know, I'm talking to a couple publishers right now about writing a book specifically on Flywheel. We've talked about that because I talked about this at the vault, I don't know, two or three years ago. We indirectly build a flywheel In Ph.P we build a flywheel
Starting point is 00:32:51 That eventually are like, hey, you can choose to leave But good luck having the format that we have put together. It's not easy to create. But you know, you want to be able to do that. I think right now if you were to score the most powerful flywheel in the world, I would still put Apple number one. I would put Amazon number two, okay? Because they have some, but I'm telling you,
Starting point is 00:33:13 very quickly Elon's flywheel could pass everybody up very quickly. And some people may even put him right now ahead of Amazon Bezos as his flywheel. It could change. What is Jeff Bezos as flywheel? He's got a massive flywheel of what Amazon does. And then he's got the servers on the other end with AWS. AWS. You know, he's got so many different things going on.
Starting point is 00:33:36 But Disney was a great flywheel. But they were top 10 flywheel. They've been screwing up the last few years. Hopefully the new seat. When did you learn about this concept of a flywheel? Because I didn't hear you talk about this. 25 years. When I'm selling insurance, one of my leaders told me, you know, you want to be able to create a centers of influence relationships.
Starting point is 00:33:53 And I'm like, centers of influence. He says, yes. So then I said, centers of influence, what does that really mean? So you're trying to sell insurance. I'm 23 years old. I build a relationship with this guy named Jamie Heb. I went in an interview with him at 21 years old. He's probably going to watch this.
Starting point is 00:34:07 And I was so impressed with him. I don't want to work for his company. I was leaving Morgans. I was leaving Bally's. And he was one of the guys I interviewed him. I liked him. And so, you know, so I sat. and I said, I need to build relationships that are feeding me leads. So I went and built
Starting point is 00:34:22 25 relationships with performers that I knew I could never get to become insurance agents, but they were great relationship. One guy's then was Eli DeFish, another guy's then was Jamie HIP. It was all these like 25 guys. And every time I would take him out every quarter, I would go have lunch with them. I would take them and I would take the bill myself because I'm honored that you're giving me your time. And I would always hand him a book. And I wouldn't ask him for anything. I'm like, how can I help you? How can I help? What do you need from me? eventually, not all of them did anything for me, but eventually some of them are like,
Starting point is 00:34:50 you would benefit from talking to this guy. You would benefit from talking to that guy. Eli Daffish gave me 600 names. One of the names he gave me, led to another guy that led to another guy, led to me making $50 million. For one of the contacts that he introduced me to, Jamie Huff introduced me to a guy
Starting point is 00:35:05 that ended up being my branch guy, compliance guy, for six, seven years. And he was phenomenal at what he did. So that became a flywheel that I knew every month, someone's going to give me a good lead or good referral that's going to turn into something. Dudley, he needed something from me. Dudley introduced me to Tom Ellsworth.
Starting point is 00:35:22 I don't meet Tom Ellsworth. Life would be a lot more peaceful, but he introduced me to Tom Ellsworth. You wouldn't be as rich. You wouldn't be laughing. Let's have a respect for the money. Introduce me to Matt Sapala. Tom is one of my three best friends in the world I have right now, right?
Starting point is 00:35:36 Because of Dudley. But those are the relationship that you built, and that was a small flywheel for an insurance guy. I'm a nobody. I'm just trying to build. Did you call it a flywheel then? When did you learn the word flywheel? Probably in the last 15 years, 10 years. It's not like that.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I didn't hear you use the word flywheel until. Adam, you haven't heard me use a lot of different words. You know, but we've seen Garshuk. Garshu. I've seen a lot of words from you, sir. That's never going to go away. So that was one of them that we did. And so, yeah, anyways, let's go to the next story. Next door I want to get into my iPad is there.
Starting point is 00:36:11 And if we got a charger in the back, somebody can bring it. I just need a... I thought one of these... I thought one of these actually... No, these don't work. I need a charge, and Matu is not here. So let me go to the next story. The next story I want to get into is Porsche.
Starting point is 00:36:23 And this is very, very interesting. While I'm doing this, if you can do me a favor and pull up, Mission... Mission M, I think it's called. Mission... Let me see if that's what it's called or not. Let me pull this up here. Oh, there it is.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Okay. Do me if ever type in Mission S. Force. Mission S. Porsche. Just type that up. So Porsche decides to hire a new CEO. This CEO back in a days used to work at Porsche for about 10 years or so. He leaves Porsche and he goes to Ferrari. He becomes the CTO of Ferrari for like four years.
Starting point is 00:36:59 After he becomes a CTO of Ferrari, he goes and becomes a CEO of McLaren. Does a great job. Now, Porsche ends up hiring him back as the CEO of Porsche. So remember, this guy used to be with Porsche. goes to Ferrari CTO, so he's a technical guy, then goes to McLaren, two supercar companies, then he comes to Porsche. Then he announces instead of selling and producing 330,000 cars per year,
Starting point is 00:37:23 because Porsche had a horrible year 2025. Horrible. Their numbers were horrible on how much money they lost. He says we don't need to produce 330,000 cars. Let's go to 200,000 cars, give or take. Then he says, when it comes down to our Porsche 9-11 turbois that we sell for a quarter of a billion dollar, give or take, we're going to raise the price on that by 20%. So he raises the price on that by 20%
Starting point is 00:37:45 on what they're going to be doing. Then he says the high-end premium cars that they do, Vinnie, they want to 6x the amount of revenue they get 6x the amount of revenue they get from their high-end premium cars. And when I say high-end premium cars, you can go customize.
Starting point is 00:38:01 They have this one program, Tom. I don't know what it's called. There's something they have that... Oh, yeah, yeah. What is it called that you develop your own Porsches? Vinnie. Like Nike with their shoes. gorgeous. Oh, really? But you're spending
Starting point is 00:38:13 $6,000 to $800,000 to design everything, interior, color, everything. You go to Porsche headquarters, you design it, you wait six to 12 months, 18 months, and it's only one car like that, and it's yours, that they design. So it's a beautiful thing that they're doing, so they want to change some of that. Average selling
Starting point is 00:38:31 price of top models will go, it's called Sounder Woonch. Can you go to Sounder Woonch, Porsche, and just go to images to show what they look like? They're gorgeous, Vinny. They're gorgeous. It's something I would do and I'm in the process of entertaining doing something like that. So then outside of that, he announces that they're coming out with a new super call
Starting point is 00:38:48 car called the Mission S, which I believe they're announcing it and revealing it on October 15th. Mission S? Mission S. If you can go to Mission S portion, show some of the pictures, it looks like the second one. Go to the second one. Yeah, right there. I mean, that's what it looks like.
Starting point is 00:39:04 That's a force these days. Dude, look at that. Click on it to see what other images they have on there. You click on a link? Vinny, look at that. I mean, and so they're about to announce that I think October 15th, give or take. Top right, Humberto, top right, so I can see the back of it? Yeah, so.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I mean, dude, that. Look, yeah, nobody knows if this is it or not, by the way. Some of these guys, they're teasing when they're releasing cars. And so at the same time, guess what else they're announcing? They're roughly letting go of 9,000 of their employees, 40% fewer management position, 20% lower development and sales costs in part of the organization. So their long-term target is 15% of operation margin
Starting point is 00:39:43 compared to just 1.1% in 2025. After the EV strategy problems, China's weakness and restriction costs. So they had a big EV launch that they did. What was it called? The car was called TIKAN. I don't know what the car was called. That was it. It was the Ticcan, and that was the...
Starting point is 00:39:59 Massive flop, Vinny. Yeah, massive flop. All electric. Very beautiful, but electric and disaster. Some people are worried, and I want to talk to Tom because, folks, one thing about Tom that he knows, If you spend an hour with Tom and you talk cars like this car that I bought, the Ferrari, the McLaren, what is it, the Sennah car that we bought from a museum in Italy, Arcton Sennas cars, those are the actual tires he raced with, just so you know. I have the steering wheel of my house. I was introduced to race cars by Tom. Of course, I know race cars, but I don't know Formula One. Tom introduced me to Sena, and then we ended up naming our oldest daughter, Senna after Arirton Sena, right? His last name is my daughter's first name. So Tom, some of the people that follow cars very religiously, they don't know if they like this idea.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Some are excited about it, but some people who are Porsche, true Porsche people, are saying, I don't know if you, I want you to turn my Porsche into Ferrari. What do you think about the strategy the new CEO's launching? I think they, I like the strategy. And the reason I like the strategy is he's coming right out of the Porsche pedigree. He started at Porsche. He has seen the rest of the supercar markets. And nowadays, the performance needs to have a flagship. You need to have that one thing that's out there.
Starting point is 00:41:16 That's why Ferrari has a La Ferrari. It had the Enzo. It had, you know, the F-50. You have to have this one car up there at the top for the very, very few. It is the flag. That is the flagship of your fleet. And what he's talking about here is you're going to have the flagship, and he's going to take some of the high-volume stuff out.
Starting point is 00:41:34 And you know what he's really saying? Hey, the high volume stuff, we'll let the, we'll let AMG, the Mercedes AMG C, C class, and we're going to let BMW, 3 class, 2 class. We're going to let them all do that, but we're going to go after this. And the word that is purist, the purest, if Dr. Ferry Porch was still alive, he would be smiling. Because you're trying to keep pure what your product is and not go to bruce. What he's saying is, let's not go so broad. Let's focus and we'll have these cars and we'll have the super car here. Porsche will live to fight another day because right now what they've been trying to do,
Starting point is 00:42:19 they had two problems. They tried to fight with high volume. So you had to go down to Cayenne. You had to go down, you know, market to go attract people into it, number one, with volume. Number two, they bought into all of the BS. about going green in Europe. They bought into that with all the electric, and it was a disaster.
Starting point is 00:42:41 So what he's doing, Pat, he's correcting two problems at once. We're stepping back from electric. We may still have hybrids, but we're stepping back, and we are also thinning out the product line, and you know what also we're doing? We're thinning out management.
Starting point is 00:42:56 We're going to be closer to the customer. We're going to be closer to the product. So he's using this opportunity to, with the EV. Do you like it? I like it a lot because I think it brings down the purity of Porsche. Look, I'll say this out loud. I'm either the best dad ever or the dumbest dad ever. But my daughter turned 16 and she demonstrated she was a safe driver and everything.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I bought her at Porsche McCann. A three-year-old McCann, beautiful, Miami Blue. She loves it. We still have it. She goes to school to a place where you can't have a car on campus. And so I'm looking forward to it not being in the garage. No community college. That's the same thing you do.
Starting point is 00:43:33 But go ahead. DeVry. And but you know what? I love it. And you know what I'm looking at right now? I mean, we know what I drive on Fridays and we know what my, where my heart is. Tom, just say it. Chick Magnet. Just do it, Tom.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Tom drives a Ferrari. And by the way, we create it. No joke. I'm not even kidding with you. Can somebody contact HR and tell us about the launch that we did with the speed bumps and putting Tom's picture on it saying, Tom, slow down? The biz bump. We intentionally build speed bombs, the annoying kind on our campus. Horrible.
Starting point is 00:44:00 They're mountains. They're mountain bombs. Because Tom would drive 60 miles from one side of day. hangar to the other side of the hangar. I mean, it's a runway. Tom, am I lying? Guilty is charged. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:13 License and registration, please. But what I'm looking at right now, I'm telling you, I go back and I love Porsche, I love the car. And I'm looking at right now as a daily driver picking up as an extra vehicle. Like a 2012, the 997.2. 997.2 was the updated different engine. You didn't have the shaft bearing problem. There's all these things.
Starting point is 00:44:33 But why am I mentioning it like that? Because people that know Porsche are nodding right now as they're listening to the podcast saying, you're right. The purity of the 9-11 and the evolution of the 9-11 and everything, I think this is great. No EV. Focus on the great cars. Build the flagship up there for everything else. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:44:53 Porsche lives to fight another day with the same purity that they had in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. I have a question for you. Yes, go for it. Not the car guys. So I'm not even trying to insert my opinion here. We were at Casa DiAngelo the other day. I remember we got dropped off and I was like, look at this car. Beautiful.
Starting point is 00:45:12 It was like this incredible green Porsche. It was actually the first time I was like, wow, I really liked this car. Here's my question for you, Pat. Where does Porsche rank in the top 10 of luxury car brands? What is who? Where does Porsche rank in the top 10 of luxury? You know, you have Rolls Royce, you have Aston Martin. You have Mercedes.
Starting point is 00:45:35 It's all in the eye of the beholder. Right. But I would tell you as a log, like you put Ferrari, McLaren. All that. Where does Porsche rank? At least some people would say top three, but some would say top five. I want to know what you think. You've had a Ferrari.
Starting point is 00:45:48 You've had a Corvette. You've had a Lamborghini. You've had a Chivette. I drive a Porsche turbo 9-11 TurboS. It's my favorite car of all time. And I buy back to back. Every time a new one comes, I buy a new one. I will always have a turbo.
Starting point is 00:46:00 As long as Porsche doesn't go woke, I will always have a turbo. of my garage. So no, no, Jaguar these days. No, no, Jaguar is Vinny. It's not, it's not a, Jaguar, Vinny likes Jaguar. He worked with the CMO. Above Bentley, above a Mercedes, above a payback, above a, I had, by the way, I, I had, by the way, you got, like, type of thing. Like, what, you're saying Porsche's in your top? I mean, this is to, this is the way to look at cars. Yeah. Okay. And I'm, and I'm being, very, my guys would ask me and I would say, what kind of a car do you see me in? And I said, Matt belongs in a Rose Royce. He does. Matt's a.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Rolls-Royce guy. Vargas was a Ferrari guy. He just looks perfect for Ferrari, right? It's the personality of what I see the individual driving. Okay. And I think cars, you know, when you ever see somebody date someone, you're like, you guys don't look like, they don't look like they match. That just doesn't add up. Yeah, he's just got a lot of money. You ever see some, like, imagine if Shaq came out of a mini Cooper. So you have to do the character of the individual, the character of the look, The character of individual... He needs a lot of help. The character of the individual matches the car.
Starting point is 00:47:09 And the car says something about you. What does it say? Really? Are you being serious or you? I want to know your opinion. He's in an Uber, though. What does it say about Adam? He's in an Uber.
Starting point is 00:47:17 You're driving an Uber says something about you. I'm not driving the Uber. No, no, but taking Uber is a form of saying something. I want to be nimble. I don't want to be committed and tied to anything. Outdoor cat. But that's what it says of somebody... But to me, anybody that drives a car, it says something.
Starting point is 00:47:33 about that. What does it say about you that you drive a Porsche? Porsche? I want the full experience of driving 200 miles an hour if I want to, but I want the day-to-day luxury, smooth experience. That's TurboS. That's TurboS. I can afford to go get any of the crazy cars out there. I drove an SF 90. I didn't like it. I had a 450-8 Italia. I loved it. At a Lamborghini, a Venador, Jen would never go on a date in that car because the car was uncomfortable. Had the I-8s, had the dons, had all other things. Porsche Turbo 9, like Tom and I were talking about him getting to California. Every time I see Tom in California, it's perfect. That's Tom to get out of a California.
Starting point is 00:48:13 It's a beautiful car. What's your favorite car ever? If you can only have one car to drive. So when I drive right now. That's your favorite car. It's not even close. It's the Porsche. You have to understand Porsche 911 Turbo S. That's you. It's the perfect car. It's a perfect. Anyways, let's go to the next story. Porsche, there is no substitute. It's really a very, very special car to have. Let's go to next story. Next story. Next. so I'm going to get to is Microsoft and other companies suspended from after the green card programs. If he can pull up the clip with J.D. Vance, I'm going to get into a couple of these things. So Vance gets furious with Microsoft because Microsoft just laid off 6,000 U.S. workers while filing 6,000 H1B visa petitions and obtaining roughly 3,000 green cards, 80% of it 6,000 H1B visa filings were extensions or status changes for existing employees.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Microsoft says it pays the H-1B visa workers the same as comparable U.S. employees and says its H-1B visa wages are amongst the highest in tech and J.D. Vance is not buying it and here's what you have to say. Go for it. There has been no company in the United States, unfortunately, that has abused this system more than Microsoft. And let me just give you a couple of statistics on this. So in the last year, Microsoft,
Starting point is 00:49:26 and I want to be clear about the data here, so let me check this. But Microsoft laid off last year, 6,000, 6,000 American workers. At the same time, the company benefited from 6,300 H-1B visas and almost 3,000 green cards. In other words, if you do the math, for every worker that Microsoft laid off, they replaced that worker with one and a half foreign indentured servants. Now, that is a scandalous system that we've allowed in this country for far too long. but thanks to the work of this task force and thanks to the empowerment of the President of the United States, we are going to stop it. Because thanks to an ongoing investigation, we have decided to suspend the Perm program for Microsoft,
Starting point is 00:50:07 which means they will no longer be able to apply their, they'll no longer be able to take those H-1Bs and apply for permanent resident status within the United States of America. Now, our message to Microsoft and to any other foreign or domestic corporation is quite simple. We obviously want you to thrive in the United States of America. We want people to invest in the United States of America, particularly the American technology sector. We are the biggest boosters of your industry. We want you to continue to grow and to employ a lot of people,
Starting point is 00:50:36 but we want you to employ American workers. And so our message to Microsoft is you're a great American company, but you've got to hire great American workers. You cannot lay off American workers and then replace them with foreign indentured servants. Tom, do you agree with them? Yes, I do. I was to say this, let me tell you, you know, you know how you level a garage? I heard this once. And it says, you put plastic tape all the way around it and then you just fill the floor with a little bit of water because the water will find its level.
Starting point is 00:51:09 What do I mean? I'll tell you, businesses will go in the direction of incentive, wouldn't you say, Pat? And entrepreneurs will go in the direction of path of lease resistance, generally speaking. and entrepreneurs will take the challenge to cover a gap. Excuse me, this is the problem. We showed this the other day. This is the visa flywheel. You put this flywheel out there, and business like Microsoft is going to use it.
Starting point is 00:51:37 That's what happened. And this blue flywheel where, guess what, H-1B turns the spouse to an H-4, they open an LLC, and that's exactly what was happening at Microsoft. You could see companies that were supplying 20 to Microsoft. here, 20 to Microsoft there. And so they're looking at it, stop it.
Starting point is 00:51:56 But you know where Washington needs to stop it? Right here. It's not about stopping Microsoft. It's about stopping a program that's being exploited. And if you don't like the way, it's like when Hillary said, Great take. You're using, you're using tax loopholes for everything. And what did Donald Trump say?
Starting point is 00:52:16 You change it. Yes, I am. Do something about it. Just like your donors do. Great point. So we need to change this. Why aren't they? Why aren't they, Tom? Why aren't they doing this?
Starting point is 00:52:25 Yeah. I think there's money in it, and there's also liberals like the backdoor for foreign workers. They don't like the, they don't, the globalists love this. Globalists love this. Backdoor for foreign workers love this. That's who loves this. So let me ask this question. So by the way, what I like about what J.D. is doing. Here's what I like about what J.D. is doing. each president becomes a policy president
Starting point is 00:52:54 like if you go to Obama Obama became what the health care president Obama care okay if you go to Bush Bush became the what the son not the father Bush became wartime president
Starting point is 00:53:06 9-11 mission accomplished the biggest legislation he had was the Patriot Act Patriot he was security and homeland security by the way some people would say
Starting point is 00:53:15 that wasn't necessarily anything good long and it also brought us you know that's right airport security. So what do you call Trump? What kind of a president was he?
Starting point is 00:53:24 He was what? He was a, what president would say? So far. Border security. He's been the America first president who had issues with tariffs, but closed the border as promised almost immediately. I'm going to tell you this.
Starting point is 00:53:37 If J.D. Vance drives this as one of his top three, there are a lot of people that agree with him on this. There are a lot of people that agree with him on this, and he should make this his Blue Ocean strategy. He should make this as Blue Ocean strategy. He should, if he doubles down on this and wham, wham, wham, every time, if he goes to the president and say,
Starting point is 00:54:01 hey, let me have a victory here. And his victory is he's able to make some changes to the H-1B visa, and he goes on a campaign trail, and he says, here's what I did. I'm the one that came up with XYZ legislation, and because of that, we were able to get Microsoft, instead of hiring 28,000 people from this to bring 28,000 American jobs,
Starting point is 00:54:18 and we created this many jobs, and then with this company and that company and this company, that is a very good top three issue of America first message that he can give. That's different than Trump's position. So I think there's a very good opportunity here for JD to do this because I think there's a lot of guys that would love to see this happen with them. An executive order, let's take away the H4.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Let's take away the ability to make an LLC and then process H-1Bs. Let's lower the number of H-1Bs. Let's do it at the federal. Because remember, remember when Billy Bean walks in, into the office and he says, listen, tonight says, I want Hattie at first. And he says, and he says,
Starting point is 00:54:57 the lineup card's mine. This is over. I got Pena first. I don't think so. Why is that? Pena plays for Detroit. You traded Pena? That's exactly right. Now you want, you want J.D. Vance to say to Microsoft, no more of the H-1Bs. Hey, we're going to use the laws as are written.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I don't think so. Why? The H-1B law has been moved to Detroit. Adam, where are you able to? That's what you need. Yeah, smart. Yeah, I think this is right. up J.D. Vance's alley. I'll give applaud and then I'll give some criticism. I think
Starting point is 00:55:25 in many ways, J.D. Vance, when it comes to foreign policy, is in over his head. I generally don't know if he is best skilled with that. Compared to someone like Marco Rubio, Rubio's running circles around him. I will give J.D. Vance credit. When it comes back to this H-1B
Starting point is 00:55:41 situation, even though his wife is Indian, keep that in mind, and the vast majority of H-1Bs are Indian, he's pretty he's pretty hard line on this. Bringing back American jobs, protecting the American workers. Understand the word that he kept using. Indentured
Starting point is 00:55:56 servants. That's a word he used multiple times. That's one step up above a slave. Indentured servitude. Do you know the definition of an indentured servant? It's usually someone who commits to a specific time period. It's usually seven years
Starting point is 00:56:12 where you're legally bound by a contract in exchange for work, in exchange for basically paying your bills, your housing, your transportation, and basically eliminating debt. That concept of basically importing these foreign workers, I don't know what they have to do, holding their passport, holding their visa, seven years, whatever that is, that servitude comes with a price. Oh, wait, it's like that, to give you the fact, it is like that.
Starting point is 00:56:38 They can't work for any other company because that company holds the H-1B, which is how they work here. They're stuck. And at the end of the day, we're saying that they're importing, I think you said the number of 6,000 imported workers at the expense of 6,000 American workers. More. So if J.D. Vance wants to own that America First Lane, I think he can do a damn good job doing that domestic.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Oh, if I'm his guy in his corner, I'm like, dude, keep hitting this, keep hitting this, keep hitting this. I think it's a very, by the way, what we like is here, my frustration with Byron Donald's was, I want to see us debate issues because I think it makes everybody tighter, and we all have blind spots, right? I like that JD's going to have, hopefully this is one of his top three issues because it would be interesting to see what Rubio did.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Ruby had a phenomenal moment yesterday when they're talking about Kimberly Gilfoy. He's like, what are you talking about? I'm not going to play this game with you. By the way, if you have that clip in the back, I don't even want to get into this club, but I just want to show you to the audience that there's two good qualified guys going into 2028,
Starting point is 00:57:40 and I really liked the way Marco Rubio handled himself there, saying, I don't play this game with you. You don't get to do this with us and ask us questions like this to pin us against each other. I'm not going to do this. He's establishing and managing the expectation with media. This is how you deal with me. I'm not one of these guys you come and try to scare off and put me in a corner and knowing what article you're going to write on me.
Starting point is 00:58:02 I've been around the block for a couple decades. You're not going to do this to me. Just watch how we single-handedly handle this one journalist. Go forward. Press the button. Guys, I'm not playing this game with you, okay? you guys write a story and then your editors tell you, make sure you get a comment from him on something we haven't seen.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Okay, you guys are not going to be our only source of information in the world. I'm sorry to tell you that. And so I want you to understand. No, that's not the way the process is going to work. How is the process works? Well, first of all, the process doesn't work like this. We don't conduct these things on a press conference, on a tarmac in a foreign country
Starting point is 00:58:38 because you wrote a story or somebody else wrote a story because some source gave it to you. So get that out of your head, because that's never the way it's going to work with me. It's a game that's been played for a long time. But it's not a game we're going to play. We're conducting serious business here. You know what I like.
Starting point is 00:58:52 You can pause it right there. I don't want commentary on this. I just want to show the fact that J.D. Vans is doing what he's doing, and he's doing what he's doing. And guess what? I want both of these guys to be in the race in 2028. The Republican Party needs both of them in the race for 2020. You have to understand what happens. These guys, like yesterday, there was a debate between Mike Rogers and Abdul al-Sayyad, if I'm saying his name correctly, because I want to give respect to both of them.
Starting point is 00:59:16 And in one of these. exchanges. Mike Rogers goes on and he's challenging him. He always calls himself a physician. You're not a physician. You're a doctor. You only did this four years. You keep talking about 10 years. He didn't do 10 years. And he's calling him out, right? He keeps playing this game of what he's got going on. You need these stuff. Like, as of yesterday, what percentage of you had ever watched a video or clip of Mike Rogers? If you're watching this, do me a favor. Who that's watching a podcast right now, can you run this poll real quick? Who has ever seen? seen a clip of Mike Rogers.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Never me. Let me say it again. Who has ever seen a clip of Mike Rogers, how he presents himself on the big stage? Run the poll. Please say, never have, maybe once, many. Those are the three options if we can run the poll on the back. I want you to watch this clip, and tell me if you're impressed by this guy. Just watch him.
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Starting point is 01:01:37 a glitchy AI chat bot is say the same thing over and over and over again but let me tell you this he has taken money from groups associated and support the Muslim Brotherhood. He has taken money from individuals on his campaign who openly support Hamas, Hezbollah, Al-Qaeda. He's taken money from the George Sorrell's family. What we found out is
Starting point is 01:01:59 this thing goes way back. Apparently they paid for his education in Columbia. Now they're paying for his campaign. By the way, that's a billionaire. What degree did I get to Columbia? By the way? I'm going to give you a 30-second relief. What did he agree did I get at Columbia? I get interviewed by him.
Starting point is 01:02:13 As a doctor, as a doctor, I understand exactly what's happening. He says, I like to say the same thing. He says, I like to say the same thing. He's done the same thing over and over and over again. You know what that is? Vote to keep your prescription drug prices high. 19 times.
Starting point is 01:02:27 A million dollars alone from Big Pharma. Another million dollars from the health insurance corporations. Of course, he is touting their talking points. This is a guy who has not been serious about providing people health care his entire career. What he has been serious about is making sure that he can monetize his time in public office, $14 million, two yachts, a McMansion in Florida. So at the end of the day, I'm a doctor. I want people to have health care.
Starting point is 01:02:49 So how does the guy, let me ask you this. 30 seconds. Let me tell. How does a guy who's had less than four years of work experience, who by the way on the campaign trail said he had 10, own a luxury property in the United Arab Emirates? He's worth a million bucks. Somebody has to tell me how this math works.
Starting point is 01:03:08 A, his facts are wrong. Those are lies. But he has consistently not telling the truth. Well, let me just say it. He's lying. So he lied about being a physician. He lied now about being an Egyptian citizen or not being an Egyptian citizen. I can't figure out what he is today.
Starting point is 01:03:23 But this impact what he's trying to tell you where he wants you to be. That's a con man. My friend here. Pause it right there. Now, I'm, of course, showing this clip because this is the clip that showed up on my algorithm. I was impressed by the way he handled himself. But Abdul Al-Sait is also very good on camera. So he knows how to handle himself great as well.
Starting point is 01:03:42 We need more Republicans that. have the brass to go debate, especially those that are running for office. Specifically, you're running, you want my vote. You want my vote. We need more of them to go out there and debate others to present their arguments. And I like that JD is going out there saying H-1B visa. And I like that Marco Rubio is saying, hey, this relationship with media, you're not going to play the game with me.
Starting point is 01:04:07 We need more of this because on the back end, let me give you a stat. And this is kind of leading me into this one conversation I want to have with you guys. as a parent of four. My two girls are running around here. Umberto, if you can show one of the pictures of my daughters that came into the office, they've been here with me today,
Starting point is 01:04:23 and in the morning, I'm doing my five-mile bike ride that I do every single morning, and my baby Brooklyn comes in, and she says, can I come to the office? Senna wants to come to the office. Can you zoom in with the pictures of shirts?
Starting point is 01:04:34 One of them has a shirt on that says Daddy's number one road dog. That's her. She always wants to go places with me. And Brooklyn's got a shirt that says Daddy's Fireball, okay? And they're in the office right now, running around with Alicia doing their things.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Let me tell you what happened. A stat comes out. And what is the stat from CDC? In 2021, during COVID, 30% of ninth grade girls identified as lesbian. That number is dropped from 30% in 2025 to 17%. A 13% drop-off. Why? Why? It's so, the left is so worried that,
Starting point is 01:05:14 Some of the folks are like, well, let's not jump to conclusion on why this is, and the reasonings for it. It's probably because of, you know, this, and we don't even know if these numbers are right or wrong and all this other stuff. Why did you go from 30% to 17%? The biggest decline appears to be in the bisexual identification. The rate among boys has been comparatively stable, and the sharpest movement is among younger teenage girls, not older teens. Why? They're more impressionable. So you want to get them there to confuse the hell out of them? Why do you want to do that?
Starting point is 01:05:42 Why do you want to do that? Gene Twinge from San Diego State Psychology professor who analyzed the CDC data called it a free fall, but she also explicitly said the causes unclear. Oh, really? You want us to buy it's unclear. Give me a flip and break. It's because of the pandemic isolation,
Starting point is 01:05:58 then all of a sudden I become gay or lesbian. Oh, changing of social norms, social media influence, political climate, changes in how teenagers use labels, or maybe because you were trying to indoctrinate. I don't have a problem if you're lesbian, gay, bisexual, whatever you are. I had a phenomenal dinner with Kevin Spacey two days ago. Last night or two days ago? Maybe it was last night.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Two days ago. Phenomenal dinner. I don't care who you like. We sat there, we laughed, we told stories, learned about his father, learning about the fact that the guy did a, went to school with Val Kilmer. They've been best friends since 13 years old. They went to the same high school, chats were at high school,
Starting point is 01:06:38 and they did this one play, and then Val told them, you got to get into acting, come get your ass over to New York. They went to the same acting school. Val Kim will graduate two years earlier. You know, Kevin Spacey drops out. Then he starts doing all these Broadway shows. Then one guy notices how great talented he is. Then he goes in those usual suspects.
Starting point is 01:06:53 One of the greatest movies of all time, Kaiser Soze. I admired the guy's gifts. So this isn't like, well, you're, you know, what is the something phobic? Homophobic. No, no. Such a fake word. Here's my problem. Let adults make that decision.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Not kids. if Adam's 18, he wants to be gay, it's not my business. If he does, it's not my, if he chooses at 47 years old to come in and say, Pat, I've met my lover, his name is Larry. That's his business. I won't be upset. Likelihood of that happening is slim, but it's not my business. But if you start talking to third graders, ninth graders, stay the F out of our kids' ways.
Starting point is 01:07:32 F.I. Pat, why are you talking? How did you go from J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio, Abdul al-side, Mike Rogers to this story. Let me tell you why. Conservatives, if you, all you start thinking about is your strategic reasons for run or not to run, we're on a crusade right now.
Starting point is 01:07:51 One of these guys get selected, all this bullshit's coming back, and they're going to get hold of your kids. And most people, you can be conservative, most people cannot afford to put their kids in private school. It's expensive, very expensive. So there's a level of urgency of knowing this is not the time to play games of dodging debates or dodging this or dodging that. Play offense. Talk about the stuff we stand for.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Talk about the stuff we're excited about. Talk about the stuff that makes good families, raises healthy kids, encourage people to have a lot of kids. If you hang out with me, I'm a bad influence. You're probably going to have four kids or more. If you're somebody that's with me working with me, I'm going to tell you to have a lot of kids. So for me, when I saw this data, Vinny, your reaction when you saw how LGBT-9th-grade girls went from 30% identifying as lesbian to all of a sudden 17%? This is it, by the way, that chart. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:08:43 How many times are you going to hear on this podcast, words talk, number scream, okay? And what we're seeing is when the cultural pressure comes off, this is what happens. Just think, guys, really think about it. During the Biden administration, LGBTQ was freaking, the White House had. massive pride celebrations. There was a transgender dude with breasts flashing on the White House lawn. Pride flag everything.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Transgender this. The administration was pushing it, pushing it. The vice, Kamala Harris, bringing all these guys into the White House and then in the schools, in the libraries, fighting. By the way, fighting to keep these books. I forgot which book it was. It was an insane book that they were fighting to keep in there.
Starting point is 01:09:27 I forgot, I don't remember the name of it, but it was bad. And then also sprinkling, you know, China with TikTok dumping all that stuff, which we realize, oh my God, they're freaking brainwashing of the youth. And now look at the difference of what a strong president does. Okay, look at the difference who's willing to stand up and completely change the direction of the country. The culture shifted. It's still unbelievable to me that Dylan Mulvaney, guys, remember how this dude was praise.
Starting point is 01:09:58 He was freaking everywhere. Bloodlight disaster loses billions of dollars. Okay, now where is he? I guess he's like doing some plague. God knows in like Uganda. I don't know where the hell he is. He's like, I'm still a girl. Nobody gives a damn because they were pushing it down.
Starting point is 01:10:13 They were trying to force it on us. Too much, Pat. And all the videos of the military, guys, when it comes to the military, I'm sorry if you're out there and you're going to be sensitive, I want killers. And as much as you don't want to, like, admit it, a few good men, when Colonel Jessup, Jack Nicholson was like, you need me on that wall.
Starting point is 01:10:33 I want killers out there protecting us. You don't want, how many videos were these transgender guys in military uniform dressing up as freaking dogs and getting, like, beating with like a, like, what are we talking about? Okay, and don't ever, don't ever forget that. And I love that you made that point back. We're not a fear porn podcast,
Starting point is 01:10:51 but I'm telling you, all your other nonsense aside, they're trying to make like the left is this attractive. Ooh, DSA free. stuff. The day a Democratic president comes into office, if God forbid it happens in 2008, all this is coming back. And if you open your mouth, they're going to shun you and they're going to punish you. And the second thing is the border that we're talking about, this El-Sayat and all this stuff, because all this Muslim brother and all that stuff, don't let that good-looking, you know, smile and whatever fool you. There's a mission behind
Starting point is 01:11:20 what these guys are trying to do and they're trying to bring it into this freaking country. Border open, disaster coming again if we let these people come into power, period. Tom, where are you at with this? As a father of two girls? I am on one simple page. Education causes everything. Indctrination is a form of education. And when you indoctrinate and then you accept, you're telling kids who maybe just going through phases,
Starting point is 01:11:46 maybe speculating to do it. And you're encouraging it. And you're encouraging kids that feel left out by social media, feel ostracides, don't have good socializations, to sit quietly and say, wow, maybe this is my problem. And we came out of COVID where we took all those kids out of school and we did it. And so now what's coming back, you know what's coming back? Not just common sense, but if kids were left to themselves, their natural order is coming back.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Their natural things. This is really important. And what Pat said about, we're only one more guy coming in and it's all coming back. Look, this is an important election. And I'm going to go hard right here. This is about turnout. Republicans, you've got to turn out. Conservatives, you've got to turn out.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Independence at lean conservative, you've got to turn out. The early vote will always favor the Dems. They vote early more often. They have a ground game. They collect out. Yeah, yeah, there's some of that going on. The Republicans and the conservatives and independent, who are conservative, tend to vote in person and later.
Starting point is 01:12:52 So don't be deceived by early counts. You need to be there. We need to be turning out for this election because your local representative could be a difference. Do I think we're going to keep the House? Nope. Do I think we can keep the Senate? It's going to be damn close, but I think we could, but it's going to be very, very close. But this is what's hanging in the balance.
Starting point is 01:13:12 You want to have this conversation about, oh, I don't like what they're doing. I don't like what they've done. I love doing that. Well, then don't let them get back in power. Turnout. It's all about turnout. Because that's the weapon against this path. I can explain what I think is happening, but to stop it, we all have to get active.
Starting point is 01:13:30 It's two things for me. One is voter turnout, Tom? You know what the other thing is? Choose better candidates. That's on the party. I know what I... Yeah, I totally get that with you. To me, it's put better candidates for us to get excited about.
Starting point is 01:13:43 I'm telling you, Tom, you know how we would do things, Tom. You and I. This is not, we're not applying for a job. Trust me, we don't, we're not interested. But if we, Tom, ran the RNC, we would have a list of 500 names and on the 500 names with a deep bench you know what we would look at
Starting point is 01:14:01 their capabilities, their ability to communicate, their ability to get out there and do social media and be creative and funny and then arguments debating, all of that stuff. You would measure them and you would say here's the seven people to get behind and then some of the people you want them to run. You got to sell them on running.
Starting point is 01:14:18 That's right. You got to also go to certain people and say, you got to run. I don't want to run. I'm telling me you've got to run. The same way some people get phone calls and say, I want you on a White House administration for this job.
Starting point is 01:14:26 I don't want this job. Three other people calling and tell you, you've got to take this job. You're doing it for your country. I think it's also an era of us imposing a little bit and saying, hey, you may want to consider running. Adam, your thoughts on this. Well, I think there's two parts of the story.
Starting point is 01:14:39 There's the evidence that women are becoming less gay, these ninth grade girls. It was up to 30% last year or last administration, now down to 17, almost cut in half. The most shocking statistic, though, was about the boys. The boys' rates have stayed exactly. the same for about a decade. So this indoctrination of our youth through it via TikTok and the feminist movement and the woke movement, the LGBT and everything like that has permeated through
Starting point is 01:15:05 women, but it has not basically broken through through boys. So here's the challenge you always see with boys is like men are struggling, young men are struggling, what's going on with young boys? Yeah, they're struggling to make sense of what the hell is going on in this world with women. Because you hear things with toxic masculinity or young men are afraid to even go up and talk to a girl. God forbid you have sex with a girl. She can accuse you of rape. Who knows what's going on? So young men are like, what the hell's going on here? Because I remember growing up, a boy would like a girl and he asks her on a date, and they go on a date. These days, young men are basically so intimidated by these feminist boss babes that they're trying to make sense of all this. Here's what I think is happening. These young women,
Starting point is 01:15:44 especially, you know, via social media, are so impressionable. And basically, it's cool to be trans. It's cool to be LGBT. It's cool to identify with the cool crowd, right? At one point, it was cool to be gay. Then it was cool to be trans. Trans was the new trend, I believe you said, Vinny. The whole concept of feminism and boss babes, and I don't need no man, I don't even want a man, because I'm going to pretend to be gay, is a fallacy.
Starting point is 01:16:10 And I think that the reality is with the Trump administration and basically defunding USAID and basically saying, we're done with this woke nonsense. There's two camps at this point. There's the camp that's saying we're done with this, and we need to have a normal, traditional, conservative, value-driven life, or woke 2.0, which AOC talks about. And the average American, if they're given a choice between woke 2.0 and common sense, hopefully chooses common sense. The key word in that sentence is what? Hopefully. Hopefully, which I bank on that. By the way, can you pull up the poll from Kentucky on abortions?
Starting point is 01:16:46 Here's a poll from Kentucky on abortions that came out. If you can pull up the poll, you know which one I'm talking about on Twitter? Look at this year. Very interesting. Kentucky abortions have dropped from 4,400 in a year to three. Great. Not 3,000 to 3. Can you zoom in on the chart so people can see this? So check this out. In 2005, they were averaging 3,776 abortions. Next year, 3,9,000, then 4,000, it's ranging around 4,000, drops to 3,200, 388, then it goes back up record breaking year to 44, 41, then drops to 2550. and look what happens next, drops to three. Wow. Three, and then drug-induced abortions drops to also the same number, 10, 9, and 5.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Total abortions. How did this happen? What happened here? Is it policies? Is it the fact that we're no longer doing it at hospitals? And then what are you doing in some states that they say, you can come and do that at 24 weeks? You can come and do it at what?
Starting point is 01:17:49 They all, because it's ran by states. Massachusetts just implemented a law where you can have an abortion up until the date of birth. So these are the types of things that for some people, you know, and by the way, pro-life pro-choice, this was a massive, massive topic that took place with Roe v. Wade when Supreme Court went the other direction. A lot of people lost their minds when this took place. But again, what values are you wanting to support? We have to keep driving because there is results. Trust me, sometimes when somebody becomes a president, we expect 100% of that person's promises to become a reality.
Starting point is 01:18:20 You know how many times this has happened in the history of America? Zero. No one's going to keep 100% of promises. You know why? One, they were campaigning on a couple of them to see what you liked. Two, some of them wasn't there. Some of them was their people that said it. 100% Epstein files.
Starting point is 01:18:37 That's Cash Patel. Trump never said that. But Trump did say John F. Kennedy assassination. Trump did say 9-11. So you can hold them accountable to that. Then you can go to, hey, borders are going to be closed. He did it. Hey, LGBTQ.
Starting point is 01:18:50 Hey, Roby, wait on, and then Supreme Court, tariffs, Supreme Court, no. Voter ID was top three on my list. Supreme Court, no. There's a whole system behind this. But the idea of, does my vote even matter? It does. It does, except the Bay, I wish the base was,
Starting point is 01:19:08 it's like what the Yankees are doing right now. I don't even want to go on the Yankees rant. We'll do that at the end. I got a lot of thoughts on the Yankees, and I don't know as a minority, how much stuff I can't say. I'm going to give you some of my thoughts, but your voter base is not happening.
Starting point is 01:19:20 with you, Yankees. Now, how many messages I get, you guys have no clue what you're doing. What the fuck, blah, blah, blah, I'm like, dude, I get it. And the voter base of the Republican Party wants to see you put out better products and let them compete. Don't choose your favorite kids too early. Who's going to run the family one day? I don't know. I'm not going to just pick one of my sons or run them. No, I don't know who's going to be the leader. But it's whoever's going to set the best example as an individual. And then that person becomes a leader of the family. Last time I'm having dinner at Casa DiAngelo
Starting point is 01:19:54 with three of our clients that we ended up partnering up with, and we own around 15% of the company. I think this business is going to sell for anywhere between a quarter of a billion dollars to half a billion dollars. And we're having dinner with them, and it's three brothers. And they build a beautiful business that's got a five and a half million dollar EBITDA. When we met him, it was like a one and a half, two million dollar EBITDA. It's going to be a five and a half million dollar
Starting point is 01:20:14 EBITDA this year. I think next year they'll do $10 million in EBDA. and hey, how are you guys close? Why do you guys get along? Well, it used to be this, and then it was this, and then it was that, and then it was this, and then it was this, and then it was this. Let people compete to see who becomes the alpha.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Don't cherry pick and endorse just because they're your favorites too early. Never pick your rabbits too early, and I think the Republican Party is picking their rabbits a little too early, and it's a mistake. Let them fight for it. Let them get their faces bloody. That's how this thing works. You're supposed to go get your asses handed to you.
Starting point is 01:20:49 And then somebody watches and says, that guy's got it. She's got it or they don't. Don't just say, I like this guy because I have dinner with him. He's going to be my guy. I think it's a mistake that the Republican Party's making. And some people may say it's part of Trump because Trump is a guy that likes people that like him. But we've got to let them fight a little bit more. We got to not like, you know, when you build an insurance agents,
Starting point is 01:21:09 you kind of pick some people you like. And I made them mistake. I picked two guys that I liked a little too much. And they weren't the ones. they just weren't the two ones that wanted to build a company. They did not want that kind of pressure. So I backed off, I'm like, you're not the guys.
Starting point is 01:21:23 I'm going elsewhere. And it was other people that were willing to take on the pressure. So I think the Republican Party's got to let some of these guys fight for the position instead of just be handed over to them. There's nothing worse than you can do than give handouts to candidates. I don't like handouts in entitlement programs. I don't even like handouts to certain people
Starting point is 01:21:42 that haven't earned the right to get the position. get in the freaking arena, get your ass handed to, get bloody, you earned it. That's your job. Go get it. Let me get to the next story. Next door I want to get to is Fort Hood. So you got to see what Hexed said? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:55 I loved it. So Hexed comes out and says, wait, let me get the straight. You want to get out there and kill 13 of our soldiers, hospitalized 32 of them, and then we have to quietly do an execution? No, we're not doing that. That's not how this is going to be. I want you to watch this here. You know who I'm talking about when this happened. I think it's Ford Hood, if I'm not mistaken, Vinnie. Watch what Hexed had to say in the fact that they're doing a first public execution, I believe,
Starting point is 01:22:25 since the World War. I think it's World War II. We haven't done this. And they want to live stream it at the same time that this happened. The live public execution, watch Hexed here. Go for it. Our Fantasy Commission says for him it's all about the friendships. Cute, Kevin, but I disagree. Like with Bet365. I get paid the second my team goes up big with early payout and can cash out at any time before the game ends. No hard feelings, Kevin.
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Starting point is 01:23:38 squad. Army major betrays his country. Radical Islamist kills a bunch of Americans at Fort Hood. Of course we're going to do it at Fort Hood. We're going to do it on a Thursday. We're going to do it at one o'clock, which is when he did it. And it's going to be soldiers with rifles executing the firing squad. It hadn't been since World War II since we've done that. Well, I kind of like the mentality we had in World War II, which was when, which was understand when the enemy attacks you, you need to stand your ground. So it was radical Islamist terror attack. Remember what Obama called it? I mean, that's what we're up against. That's the worldview we're up against his workplace violence, CVE.
Starting point is 01:24:12 We know what it is. It was a radical Islamist attack in uniform inside the ranks, and so he's going to get a firing squad of soldiers, as it should be. And we'll make sure that people are able to watch it, that it's public, because people need to understand that this is, there's serious consequences for these types of things. Has Major Hassan made any final request, reached out to the president, anything like that, to your knowledge? Don't care. We'll see him on December 3rd. December 3rd, Lord, ladies and gentlemen,
Starting point is 01:24:40 Secretary of War, Peter, thanks very much. Best part of the answer. Don't care. I don't care if you want pizza as your last meal. Don't care. I don't care if you want
Starting point is 01:24:51 Schwarma. I don't care if you want, you know, any kind of chicken, steak. Don't care. So, there's some people that are saying that's cruel,
Starting point is 01:25:02 that's cold, public execution. Why would you want to do this? And by the way, if they live stream it on, YouTube. I don't even think YouTube's going to allow it to be live stream, right? On some like this taking place. To all of you guys, run a poll. Do you support public execution? Do you support public execution of the man who killed 13 soldiers and hospitalized 32? Vini, what do you stand?
Starting point is 01:25:26 100%. You have to start sending a message, okay? And guess what? Some of these same type of people, this major in the Dalh Hassan, they're still here. They're in the United States, okay? Just to give everybody a heads up, because I know this was in 2009, November 5th. He's an Army psychiatrist, and he's a major. I don't know if you guys understand the ranking level of this. You have to have a degree. You have to go through all the schooling to become an officer.
Starting point is 01:25:53 He was, his job is to help American soldiers, okay, that are dealing with mental issues from serving in their country in all types of situations. He opened fire on his troops at Fort Hood, Texas, and he was shouting, Allah Akbar, Pat mentioned that 13 Americans, 32 wounded, the majority of them were unarmed. One of his victims that I want people to remember was 21-year-old,
Starting point is 01:26:15 Army private, Francesca Veles. She was pregnant, okay, just came back from Iraq. Witnesses heard her crying on the floor about her baby, and this guy, Hassan, continued firing and shooting all the wounded soldiers on the ground. So investigators discovered that he had communicated with radical Islam cleric, Anwar al-Waki before the attack, he admitted he had switched sides, which he considered the war against Islam. So, and here's my thing. I think, and I know people are going to be like, oh,
Starting point is 01:26:46 you're a Christian. Listen, people say eye for an eye. In this type of situation with the enemy here, you have to show them what we're going to do. He's been alive, mind you guys, 17 years sitting in a prison, your tax dollars are feeding him, are housing him, are giving him all his closing and everything. for 17 years, what about the 13 families? What about the 32 other people that have had injuries? They can't walk. They're paralyzed or whatever, and that they live with that trauma. They're probably seeing psychiatrists now because of what this psychiatrist,
Starting point is 01:27:17 who they trusted, did to them, okay? And I love this message that this sends, Pat. Anybody thinking about committing a freaking terrorist act against Americans need to understand something. The consequences are serious. You don't get to kill American citizens, betray the country, and then sit in a jail cell. like this forever okay and if you're gonna bad that's my thing streamline this thing you if
Starting point is 01:27:40 you're convicted you have the death penalty what are we waiting for 17 years a stay of execution this and they that it's it's absolutely poetic to me too that they're doing it at forehood the same exact minute the same hour that he did it zero hesitation you fully support what 100% and i'm gonna tell you something else i wish there was away because he's doing it for islam pat of to follow him through the afterlife because i want to see his face when he realizes that 72 virgin virgin nonsense mumbo jumbo it ain't happening captain
Starting point is 01:28:09 there is no virgins there is nothing you're freaking believing a false freaking god and it teaches you to murder what tell me the religion that says murder innocence and we got virgins waiting for you in heaven if that's if the sale by the sale
Starting point is 01:28:25 we're sale we sell stuff that's your sale it boggles my mind that people go yes I'm all in I'm all in to go do that so God bless those 13 Americans who lost their lives, and I hope that their families on that day are going to have some peace. Dude, do you have a different opinion? Yeah, well, I have a, here's what I'll say.
Starting point is 01:28:44 I'm with Vinny for the most part on this. By the way, 86% of people watching support the public execution. 14% said no. 806. Again, 8614. Listen, this guy was a major in the, what branch? Army. In the Army.
Starting point is 01:28:59 Fort Hood. And if you listen to the words, he said he described the attack as jihad. So I don't know how you want to define jihad. It's an internal struggle. It's an external struggle. Whatever you think that the Quran basically says, anyone who basically subverts the American institution becomes part of our military, comes in, practices jihad,
Starting point is 01:29:20 kills 13 military members, and wounded 32, public execution is not even enough. He can invite his family and friends for all I care. This is a jihadist who end up in America taking out American lives. So when Secretary of War, Pete Hegg says, says the U.S. Army has become weak and woke. And we won't basically end up like Europe. And the famous clip of him saying,
Starting point is 01:29:44 no fatties, no trannies, no beerdos, no weirdos, no wimps, no radicals, just warriors. This is the reality of war at this point. We're at war with radical jihad, whether you like it or not. And I loved your interview with Raymond Ibrahim earlier this week. Incredible breakdown. just stoic, educational, and basically saying,
Starting point is 01:30:06 guys, this is what's happening right now. Here's the biggest point here. We talk about suicidal empathy in the West. This is an exhibit of homicidal empathy where we let someone like this have guns and kill our soldiers. To me, public execution, and then some for someone like this.
Starting point is 01:30:21 Tom, I have a different take. On August 14th, 1936, what stopped in the United States? August 14th, 1936 on this topic. what stopped us? What stopped. That's what we're talking about. Public executions. Public executions, the last one in the United States, happened in Kentucky, August 14th, 1936.
Starting point is 01:30:41 Before that, people would come to the town square. The public executions were done outside jails, outside the town square, and in colonial times, they were done outside the courthouse. And the courthouse often was a church, which doubled as a schoolhouse in the center of town because they didn't have a lot of buildings. So the schoolhouse and the church
Starting point is 01:31:00 and the courthouse were all the same thing. So they took it. Now, they said that crowds became rowdy, and it became more of a spectacle, so they moved into private. But you know what was also universally accepted? People went there and often took young children there and pointed out to them
Starting point is 01:31:20 that a life that leads here leads here. And so you had this social thing happen. Now they say that they became rowdy, Oftentimes there was drunkenness, and then one time there was a fully rotted gallows in Texas that when they pulled the rope to drop the prisoner, the whole thing collapsed. And so also injuring the executioner. That's bad. So in other words, there were some problems. So it wasn't perfect.
Starting point is 01:31:45 But it was at a time, Pat, where there was a deterrent. You don't want to shame your family and be that person in the public square. There is a time. And I think moving it to private, moving it inside the jail, I think made sense. but they always had public witnesses. People like you and me, like for jury duty, that would have the opportunity to witness and we gave comments to the newspaper
Starting point is 01:32:08 because they still wanted the deterrent, Pat. They wanted people to read about it. It's the most horrible thing I saw. I was selected to be there. I witnessed on behalf of the governor. It's the most terrible thing. I don't wish this on any person, but he committed crimes and murder,
Starting point is 01:32:23 and he was executed. That would be in the newspaper. So people would sit there and there is deterrent. So I looked up the first state that banned public execution, Connecticut, 1830, Rhode Island, 1833, Pennsylvania, 1834, New York, 1835, Massachusetts, 1835, Jersey 1835. So public executions started being banned about 200 years ago, long time ago. 200? Yeah, Connecticut was for 1776.
Starting point is 01:32:50 Okay, 1830, 60 years later, Connecticut says we're not going to do public executions. The last 10 executions that we did. Okay. Roscoe Jackson, Missouri. Murdered traveling salesman in 1937, pro-Bosart during the robbery. Boom, public execution. Next one.
Starting point is 01:33:07 Dudley Barr, 1937, May 21st, Missouri. Murder and robbery of Walter Milton. Okay, next one. Fred Adams, 1937, Missouri. Notice a pattern here. Murdered Knight Marshal Clarence Green during a robbery. Hurt Hardy, Missouri, 1937. Murdered 19-year-old Ethel.
Starting point is 01:33:27 Fennistock. Murder. Murder. Yes. Next. Missouri. George McAvere, 1936, Missouri. Murdered a Missouri Highway Patrolman and a sheriff. Public execution. Rainey Bethia, Kentucky. Convicted of raping Lucia Edwards. He also confessed to murdering her.
Starting point is 01:33:44 C.D. Ward, Missouri, 1935. Convicted of raping two sisters. Execution. Edward Gaiman. Missouri. Murder and robbery of Arthur Cashin. Then next one. Okay. William Roland, Missouri, murdered Edwin-Shaynor.
Starting point is 01:33:59 So this used to be a thing in Missouri and Kentucky, and the first one that banned it was Connecticut, and now he wants to bring you back and do it in Texas. And by the way, if he keeps his word, and this happens, and the video is alive, and you're an insider? Remember when Jacob Coxon, the Anthropic insider said that we have Chinese nationals at Anthropic and, what do you call it, OpenAI?
Starting point is 01:34:23 There is nothing more than an insider that's a major, not a private E1 or private first class, or a specialist or a sergeant. You're a freaking major. This is an insider. You know what this could call for? You know what this could call for? This could be, I don't know what next thing he's going to be doing, but there could be some levels of. If Chinese nationals cannot be in companies like Open AI and Anthropic, maybe it's time to decide what types of people can I join the U.S. Army
Starting point is 01:35:01 and go a little bit deeper on your background checks. I don't know. Maybe you've got to raise the standards of who can't even go serve. Because we obviously... We should be entitled to have a weapon. No, not, no, not even weapon. Because you know what the biggest... B'le, I'm working at a nuclear missile base, Adam.
Starting point is 01:35:18 You know what the biggest threat? It wasn't outside people. it's the insider threat. You have no idea how much training we had to do to make sure it wasn't people that were the inside out of. That's the most dangerous thing. And like he said, this wasn't like an enlisted E2, E3. You have to go from second lieutenant to lieutenant to captain to major.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Bro, and then lieutenant colonel and he keeps going up. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not, listen, Pat, this to me, how much do you think, Adam, of the people that are here that are seeing this? I mean, I'm talking about enemies from within. Because when you sign up for the military, it's to protect the country from enemies foreign and domestic, the ones that are already here. How many of those people, Adam, like, Adam, I'm a realist.
Starting point is 01:35:58 There's people walking around right now that are in the military that have been kind of indoctrinated. They're kind of like on the fence that they're probably in their head. I'm going, you know what? I could probably see myself doing something like this to say, hey, the hell with America and blah, blah, blah. Once they hear the secretary of war say, we're going to kill this dude and I want everybody to see it,
Starting point is 01:36:17 you think it has a little bit of an effect, Tom, on somebody that's like even weighing an option of trying to do something to murder Americans? I think it does on certain tears. If you are a radicalized person, you're going to do it anyway because whether you die there or die later, you think you're going to glory in this absolutely perverted logic, right? Yes. If you're radicalized. But other people, do you think it stops it?
Starting point is 01:36:44 Absolutely. And I, remember, there's also what we're also talking about here, is the structure and the social compact that lives in a civilized society. And look at one of the things that I read from the summary of public executions is that people were fearful. They would see this. There was a film that was called Scared Straight during, I believe it was the 80s. If you guys can look that up, it was to remind young men of the horrors of prison
Starting point is 01:37:19 and what happens to your life after prison. The great show. Scared straight. It was a documentary. It was not SNL. It was the documentary about the U.S. prison system. And what will probably happen to your life after you go to prison, the ability to get jobs, being married, all of that.
Starting point is 01:37:39 And it also reminded them that men in prison, other things happen, which are horrifying. But the bigger thing it was, this will destroy your life. where are you going to get a job? Where are you going to go? What are you going to do? And also, leaving your family on the outside and what they think. There used to be this fear and these things in America that went with strong family leadership and sensible social concern. And we've lost that, right? We've lost that. Prison has become crime college. You know, the recidivation rate is horrible, you know, and we need deterrent. Yeah, you need a little bit of fear to impose
Starting point is 01:38:21 and to people to not make any dumb mistakes. We got some people that are watching a podcast. We had a kid over there. I love it. When people come and watch a podcast, baby, Brooklyn, baby, baby, baby. Can I have just one thing? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:34 To me, the reason that I'm so upset about this story, there's a lack of trust. You're using the word internal. Look at the stories we're talked about in the last week of the people on the inside that have basically done the most heinous things ever to the people that's supposed to, to trust him. Lindsay Clancy kills your three kids. Is there someone that's supposed to be more
Starting point is 01:38:53 protective of your three kids than the mother? The pilot of this Air Dubai flight, you're supposed to be taking these passengers to safety. And next thing you know, you're the one trying to kill them. The major, in the army, you're the one killing the soldiers. To me, there's a lack of trust. If you can't trust the people on the inside, how the hell you can trust anybody? This isn't a trust conversation. This is consequences. This is consequences. This is consequences. Have you noticed a pattern since Lindsay Clancy's story of killing her kid? Yeah, you start to see more killings. How many documented stories of deaths involving biological mothers, okay, has happened since her story.
Starting point is 01:39:39 How many of some people are sitting there saying, well, you know what? And by the way, maybe next time we'll have the data to show it to you. Of how many has happened since some people are like, well, it's not a big deal. Well, it's not a big thing. Some of the stories are disturbed. You read it. You're like, is this real or is this real or is this real? No, it's real.
Starting point is 01:39:55 Is this real? It's real. So the keyword is consequences at him. You cross the line. There has to be consequences. And if the consequences are, oh, it's okay. This is what we're going to be doing. No, there needs to be real.
Starting point is 01:40:09 Like, Chazza, what's his first name? Chisholm. Jazz. Jazz Chisholm from Yankees. He interviewed in a certain way. I don't like for you to talk like that about the Yankees. I don't like the way you talked about the Yankees. After you're losing, like, Gary, they're talking shit and all this other stuff.
Starting point is 01:40:24 I'm sorry, buddy. You don't talk like that. You can't talk like that about the fans. The fans are not happy with you. You were the Yankees. You're a we. You're not an I. We don't speak into I language.
Starting point is 01:40:41 We speak into we language collectively. And yes, there are certain sports teams certain people shouldn't play for because it comes with a lot of people. pressure. Guess what's one of them? Yankees. What's another one? Red Sox. What's another one? Lakers. What's another one? Anything with Philly. Don't go to Philly if you don't want the pressure that comes with it. So to me, there needs to be consequences with certain in everything, kids, relationship, friends, peers, and you want to go out there and kill 13, you know, 13. No problem. There has to be consequences and it needs to be public. And it needs to be painful. And I dare you to, to
Starting point is 01:41:19 to even think about doing something like this. Look, but we'll make an example of you. The concern becomes some people may be like, hey, that's still recognition for me in my 50 minutes of fame. I'll do it because guess what my God has given me for me to do. Yeah, the version.
Starting point is 01:41:32 So you have to realize, that's why I say, I think there's another level above this, Vinnie. Where are you gonna say something? You were talking about the Lindsay Clancy and the people, look at how many moms in the past week. And you click on it. Young birthday, can you make it bigger? Just click on a picture if you can.
Starting point is 01:41:45 Look at that. Mom allegedly stabs husband, two young children in an early morning attack. By the October, September, Missouri mom claimed a mistakenly placed infant in oven killing her. Lindsay Clancy obsessed mom, Corey Wall saying, Wizard of Oz tune after hanging her two-year-old son. Look at all this, boom, happening, happy, happy.
Starting point is 01:42:02 Because she can walk. After Lindsay Clancy, because you can, Texas mom shoots daughter for and murder, suicide. October 2nd, this is last week. Do you think these are inspired? Do you think these are copied? Well, Adam, they don't. You think it's a little bit more pronounced?
Starting point is 01:42:13 This is New York. This is New York Post. This is news that's going on. You know what this means, Adam? Because of one word. Yes. There is no consequences. Dingo.
Starting point is 01:42:23 There are no consequences so I can get away with this. The consequences game is... There's also the victim mentality. Here, Lindsay Clancy is now the hero. I don't care. I don't care what killing her three kids is. They're saying that she should be going to jail for the rest of her life and now people are making her a hero.
Starting point is 01:42:42 No, but there is a victim. Well, you ready for this? No, but the point that he's trying... Because of the standards that we have. You also talk about this. Cornell case, this lady clearly, I don't know if we want to touch her right now, she was clearly a very promiscuous woman. Now there's, the consequences are people finding out.
Starting point is 01:42:56 Now she claims she's being raped. Yeah, so let's go to that story. Let's go to that story. So Cornell girl, Jane Doe, Vinny found her on Instagram. So it's not like you can find who she is. We won't give the name. So this girl, Jane Doe, let's call her. More stories comes out on addendum.
Starting point is 01:43:13 Do I want to read this stuff, folks? I mean, earmuffs. I just want to let you know. Some of the stuff is just. gross. Pretty gross of what she was into. So let's go to page eight with some of the text messages. There is sexting and then there is this. Okay. So Jane Doe was a serious text mode. Two days after alleged loss, almost consoling one of the men she'd later accuse of rape. TMZ obtained a text chain between Jonathan Newell and Jane Doe on the evening of October 21st, 2024. Newell apologized.
Starting point is 01:43:40 You're an amazing person and I genuinely hope you're not catching as much heat from this as we are, we've been shutting down any stories we've heard, but again, I'm so sorry. Jane responded, oh, Jonathan, I really appreciate the text. My memory is super clouded too. I really like being with you and Matt. So anything anyone has to say about the gang bang is out of their jurisdiction. I don't think we should feel any shame for that part. Our body, our choice as ASF. ASF is what? I don't know what ASF stands. As F you see. Okay. She added, at the end of the day, you, Matt and I were in your bed and they didn't need to get up in that.
Starting point is 01:44:21 She appeared to say she hooked up with them both before. I really do love you and Matt. And I promise I won't get quiet and weird. W.U. Like I did last time. I don't know what the hell that means. Vinnie, what else are you seeing with you? Well, get quiet and weird with you. Two days after, Pat, like she apologizes, acknowledged that everybody was intoxicated, you know, said that activity. was legal, even wrote our body, our choice, okay?
Starting point is 01:44:49 And she described everyone as consulting, consenting adults, and they made a comment about women doing this in medieval time. She also told one of the men, she loved him, and another man involved and offered to talk if he had any regrets. And according to other, according to other reports, she was texting
Starting point is 01:45:05 her girlfriends during the sexual, like she'd have one round with a guy, text her friends. Go back and do another one, toxic. And then text him. And then she was planning to return to the fraternity house for a Halloween party. This is where it gets, the real information comes out.
Starting point is 01:45:23 She was disinvited, and her messages revealed that she was upset from girls from another sorority because they were whispering behind her back and starting rumors. Okay, and then one of the men patting is Matthew Ingalls, I think, is now allegedly like she sexually assaulted him and he was too drunk and too high because he didn't remember anything.
Starting point is 01:45:40 What does that mean? Does this guy... She used sex toys on him? This might be the guy, and I'll let you get to that time, because apparently this guy Pat's saying, you know what, I was on drugs, I was drunk. I don't remember, and I'm going to give it to you in the second time. But this is what I'm taking from the story.
Starting point is 01:45:54 It's amazing how everybody, a lot of women and all of these feminists supporting men rush to condemn these men, and you didn't have all the evidence. No trial, no verdict, nothing, okay? Nothing. And then you're calling a rapist. And I sent Humberto this clip of AOC, and this is a big problem that AOC can have if these guys want to
Starting point is 01:46:13 turn their ugly head to her. This is what she's saying, and this is the defamation lawsuit if they wanted, Pat, look at what she said about these guys without knowing anything of the story. Go ahead, Bert. Our fantasy commission says for him it's all about the friendships. Cute, Kevin, but I disagree. Like with Bet365, I get paid the second my team goes up big with early payout and can cash out at any time before the game ends. No hard feelings, Kevin.
Starting point is 01:46:40 Just faster payouts from Bet365, the home of winning. early. Must be 19 and older. Ontario only. Please play responsibly. If you were someone you know is concerns about gambling, visit connectsontario.ca or call 1-8665-3-1-2,600. Terms and conditions apply. Seven men drugged and gang raped a 20-year-old woman. They lured her in to a fraternity house. They drugged her with ketamine. They then posted to a group chat that she was incapacitated. and seven men took turns gang raping her for seven hours. Pause that.
Starting point is 01:47:19 Now, that right there, I hope one of these kids' families hears it, and you go after her and you sue her, okay? Because they're calling all of them gang rapists and all the texts are revealing that they want. And this is the big difference, Pat. Regret versus rape, okay? Two completely different things.
Starting point is 01:47:36 One of them ruins your weekend and you're ripping, it's going to suck. It'll go out of way in six months. The other one is going to ruin your life forever, literally forever, and I think we become a society, and I'm pretty sure the people out there, Tommy, I know you'll agree. Nobody wants to take responsibility for their actions. You make stupid, reckless decisions, you put yourself in dangerous situations, and you act shocked
Starting point is 01:47:57 when there's consequences. And here's that word again, and somehow we're not allowed to ask questions, and I'm going to do this very fast. Take George Floyd. George Floyd never even meets Derek Chauvin if he's not a degenerate drug-using scumbag who abused women who held a gun to a war. woman's pregnant stomach while his friends robbed the house and if he wasn't trying to use a 20-fit 20-dollar counterfeit bill to pass he never meets him he never dies number one
Starting point is 01:48:22 Renee good okay you never get killed until you try driving over a freaking federal agent with your 3,000 pound car and all of a sudden you're the victim okay and the same thing goes for this girl you don't want to be out there into the in the public square and everybody's talking about you stop being a freaking hoochie on a campus doing drugs and everything and trying to blame everybody else, okay? It just drives me crazy and I'm sick and tired of it. Take responsibility for your own actions and don't get mad with the consequences come. Tom, what is
Starting point is 01:48:49 the one story we're telling us about what happened to one of the guys? What happened to them? By the way, earmuffs, it's a little weird. If you're watching this with the kids, maybe take a quick break. So here and what I'm going to do is I'm going to do this carefully. The headline that's here from the news says one of the Cornell 7s, a fat
Starting point is 01:49:07 bro, means a male that was a member of the frat, claimed that the accuser sodomized him and the school didn't care that he was a sexual assault survivor. He indicated in an interview, apparently, and we have to infer that while he was unconscious, he was sodomized. What that usually means when they state that is that while he was unconscious, a sex toy or other implement was inserted in him for laughs. so I think you can figure out what that means. That's pretty terrible.
Starting point is 01:49:39 So you wake up after it and your guys are like, dude, you were so out of it and used to see what this chick did you with the sex boy. That's not a quote from somebody, but I'm saying apparently there was something along those lines and he claims that he brought that to the police and said, what about me? I was completely out of it,
Starting point is 01:49:56 and I didn't even have sex with her. I was getting, you know, or, you know, it's just it's horrible. So I have two takes on this. The first take I have on this is that this has exposed many other situations that were on Cornell. Cornell has been in the headlines for a lot of very wrong reasons. The university president is under fire from the student newspaper that is doing independent reporting, Pat, of other rapes, other fraternities, other things on campus, which have been previously ignored, or very limited investigations by the school, allegedly.
Starting point is 01:50:39 The board of regents or the board of trustees, it just said board, but the governing body apparently has brought in an external judicial representative, and what they're doing is they want that person to conduct a full investigation of the school's responses, because Cornell, apparently, by these many stories, appears to be a hotbed of unchecked fraternity hazing's and assaults. That's just what the headlines are saying. I'm not saying that. I'm not defaming Cornell.
Starting point is 01:51:12 Apparently, their reputation is here with all these reports of the incidents that are going on. And I think parents need to know this stuff when you're making choices for your kids. And this is exactly why I dissuaded people from sending their kids there for veterinary school. I was like, my daughter was thinking about that. Hell no. Go to University of Florida. You know, go somewhere else. But for the love of God, don't send your kid into a hotbed of this stuff. But right now, there is, I set the woman aside, Pat, you see what I mean?
Starting point is 01:51:44 And I think that the outcomes that are coming here on awareness of what's going on campus, you're looking the other way by the administration, fraternities that weren't sufficiently checked, university police that were like, well, it was kind of a party, maybe there's nothing to see here, were legitimate innocent victims, Vinnie, not victims that are kind of made their own way into this. Adam, where are you at? I mean, you know, the famous phrase, facts don't care about your feelings.
Starting point is 01:52:13 Well, the inverse of that is that feelings don't care about your facts. Here's what I think has actually happened. I think this girl was a massive slut. Earmuffs for everybody out there. She liked doing drugs. There was no gang. rape that was, again, earmuffs, there was a gang bang. And she wanted this. And again, last time we talked about this, doing the drug ketamine or K, you don't know what's going on. And
Starting point is 01:52:42 she willingly did this. And she did this multiple times and came back for more. So to me, this is hookup culture on steroids. And then you use, the AOC uses the narrative of a seven men from Cornell gang raped this woman for political expediency and basically using it to basically create a narrative that didn't exist. And what I find the most ironic here is the people that are basically advocating for open borders and illegal immigration, they have nothing to say about the Pakistani rape gangs that were going on in the UK for decades where women, innocent women were basically done dirty
Starting point is 01:53:27 beyond they're silent about the AOC, why don't you talk about that? Hey, Abdul al-Sayed, why don't you talk about the Pakistani rape gangs? Nothing. But all of a sudden, these seven white guys, not even white guys, seven white guys at Cornell gang, whatever, this woman, this is the number one thing they have to say.
Starting point is 01:53:43 So the hypocrisy. We're going to find out exactly what happened with the story, the truth will come out, because all the text messages there and phone calls are there, recorded lines are there. But to me, the hypocrisy From the far left is what I have a problem. Parents, get involved with your kids, talk to them about this kind of stuff. We were at dinner the other day. I brought this up to all the kids, and I talked to them about situations, case studies,
Starting point is 01:54:04 what to do in situations like this. Jennifer was right there. We talked to our two boys, and don't be the parent that's uncomfortable to talk about this stuff. One time I had the first time I had RFK on the podcast six years ago, seven years ago. I asked them the question about what was it like being a Kennedy, what the dinners look like. You said, my dad would ask me questions during dinner, and it says, what's wrong with doing LST? We should make it legal, and we would debate it,
Starting point is 01:54:26 and we would go out, bring these types of topics. You have an opportunity at dinner table every night. Turn off the TV, ask them. Ask them, if your kids are a certain age, ask them, what do you things are right thing to do here? What if you get an opportunity to go do this? What would you do? How would you handle it?
Starting point is 01:54:41 What if the girl is gorgeous? What if your friend says, nobody's going to know? What if the girl says, come on, use the academy, do the drug? How would you handle that? What would you do? How would you prevent yourself from not being tempted to do something stupid like this. And how are you going to stay? These are the top, because if you don't,
Starting point is 01:54:56 kids are going to do what you do. There's a kid, there's a video of a six-year-old kid that shot his teacher. And I want to ask you a question when you watch the way this kid speaks. How did he learn how to speak like this? And again, this is some, you know, I want you to be ready because the language is nasty. I would tell everybody. And I send the video to you. Is this the video I sent you? I sent you the video. I want you to play the video I sent you. Yeah, yours is bleeped. Yours is bleep? This one's not bleeped. I don't know if this...
Starting point is 01:55:23 Yeah, I know, but the video I sent, it shows it from a reporting angle. Okay. And I just want you to play the clip that I sent you. I want you to watch this. Six-year-old boy shoots his teacher. Then they record him. And look at the way he speaks to the teacher. And the teacher hand...
Starting point is 01:55:43 This is the teacher that... The teacher's getting wished away. There's another teacher, Pat, holding him. This is the aftermath. The teacher's already been shot. Now he's being held in the classroom by another team. Watch this. Watch this. Played.
Starting point is 01:55:54 And into the chest by one of her young students. Let's see how that student is doing. Six years old. I told the AP that there was a threat earlier about it. The AP is the assistant principal. He is six years old. And I called 911 when I heard this. I'm the radio specialist.
Starting point is 01:56:17 Watch how you speak. I came down the hall. She had blood. You know what she does? We got some. Who talks like that at six years old? How did he wrong how to talk like that? It's on the floor.
Starting point is 01:56:30 It's over there, whore. Stop. Listen to him. Fuck you. That's not how we speak to each other. Fuck you. Wow. I stole that from my mom.
Starting point is 01:56:38 Stole the gun on his mom. What's your name? Six years old. If he wants a piece of me, come get it on me. Bitch. Are you kidding me? His mom is disposedly. I don't care if you call back up.
Starting point is 01:56:48 I don't care if I go to jail, bitch. Looks into that. We know, you know that language, and you know that's not appropriate. his covex and not happy with that. Oh, wow. She is way too nice. He slapped her. Boy, I can't wait to see what that fine young man is going.
Starting point is 01:57:03 Oh, my. Vinny. Can you believe that? Who's this? Is this the teacher? That's the teacher that was shot. Can we continue this? Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:57:10 Keep playing it. Yeah, go ahead. Keep playing it audio. He's in the hospital. That boy's mother did a fine job, didn't she? She's the mom. Don't worry, though. She came up with the worst excuse ever real fast.
Starting point is 01:57:19 He has ADHD. Some are able to have it at a very, mild rate, but he's off the wall. Doesn't sit still ever. You feel that there is some racial component to it? Absolutely. If the dynamics were different, if the teacher was maybe looking like me, and the student was Caucasian or another nationality. How does he learn how to talk like? Are you kidding me? How does a kid learn to talk like? Let it keep going. You're guilty and was in prison until May 26. Parker is the former assistant principal from Richneck Elementary School.
Starting point is 01:57:52 Ebony Parker faces eight counts of child abuse with reckless disregard for wife. One for every bullet in the gun. It began with Zwerner the morning of the shooting going to see Parker and allegedly telling Parker the child was in a violent mood. A short time later, two students told another member of the school staff the child had a gun in his bag. Two warnings. A backpack was searched, but nothing was found. The grand jury says Zerwerner still worried told colleagues she thought she saw the boy put something in his pocket, which was also told to Parker.
Starting point is 01:58:23 Still, no expansive search or pat-down. Then after recess, one of the boy's friends came up to another teacher and told her the child had a gun and showed him the bullets. Boy, that assistant principal is screwed, huh? Not so fast. Watch this.
Starting point is 01:58:37 A judge dismissing the charges against former assistant principal, Ebony Parker. The judge said that there were too many questions with the law and the legality of the indictments that were said for him here. Yeah, sure. I'm supposed to take seriously anything said by a purple lipstick judge.
Starting point is 01:58:52 Well, I can tell you right now who the next Supreme Court justice will be if a Democrat is president. You can stop it. Like, okay, for everybody out there, how does that kid, and I feel so bad for him, there's no way you come out into society.
Starting point is 01:59:07 You come out of your mother unless there's major, major problem. By ADHD, give me a freaking break. The first thing I thought about, where's the father? And if you look it up, Umberto,
Starting point is 01:59:18 his father's name is Malik, Ramon Ellison. Criminal history. And guess what the criminal history is? Domestic violence, assault, illegal ammunition possession, violating protective orders, convicted of assaulting the boy's mother. Another woman accused him of threatening her with a gun, okay? Look at the freaking chaos. This kid has zero, zero chance. No discipline, no parenting, no consequences. And all of a sudden, and who they, they're going to blame. They're going to blame ADHD. I think it's absolutely ridiculous. had, like, thank God the teacher wasn't shot and killed, but to blame
Starting point is 01:59:53 race and to blame ADHD. No, no, it was the mother. And the mother spent, if I'm not mistaken, three years, nine months in prison for child neglect and federal firearms charges, but the fact that the principal who was warned four times, in one day the assistant principal, four times,
Starting point is 02:00:10 gun, gun, he's hiding it, gun, you ignore it, a teacher gets shot, and that judge says you're good. All the offenses, all the felonies, all gone. This goes back. to my same thing with consequences. Exactly. If you're not going to have consequences, this kind of behavior is going to be repeated.
Starting point is 02:00:25 But no six-year-old kid learns to talk like that. Wasn't born to talk like that. Nope. You'll learn how to talk like that. A six-year-old kid learned, that's a learned skill set. That rage, that language, learned skill set from father, from mother, from a brother, and from the community they're raised in.
Starting point is 02:00:43 It's embarrassing to see a story like this. Embarrassing to see a story like this. Adam, your thoughts. Yeah, I mean, this is the most ghetto story. I've seen, and maybe ever, a six-year-old kid talking trash to the police teachers, after he shot his teacher and saying, what's up? You want to go again? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:01:01 Absolute ghetto. And this, listen, who's going to come across this? This is why you talk about raising, how you're raising your kids and being a leader and setting standards. This is the reason why. And this is why a lot of people have a major reservation of sending their kids to public schools like this. This is why the school choice programs are so important. This is why I can't tell you how many people I speak to that homeschool their kids, because is this the type of school system that you
Starting point is 02:01:29 want to basically send your kids to? So let me get this straight. The choices are you send your kids and they get woke and weird and they become lesbians or they go to some ghetto school system and they can potentially get shot by a fellow classmate who's six years old. Just the education system in America needs a total revamp right now. Here's just one story of ghettoness that is going on in our school. And you think they're saving that kid, Pat? That six-year-old kid, you think they're saving that mentality of how he is
Starting point is 02:01:58 and how he has that freaking attitude at that freaking age? And I don't know who that was, because apparently he's staying with the grandfather right now, but for that guy to be like, yeah, race has something to do with it. Shut up. I'm so sorry. Shut up with that stupid racist nonsense and ADHD. No, no, your mother and your father.
Starting point is 02:02:16 asking the question. You think this is a race-related issue? Like you think it's right, no, no. How about you? How about look at her right next to you and the father? God knows where the hell he is. He's probably in prison. What do you stop the nonsense?
Starting point is 02:02:28 It's you. I would have said it's you and the father. The father has a rap sheet. What do you think? You don't think that kids listening to stupid ass music. You know what this reminds me of why this is not a race story? Remember the famous thing on Dr. Phil? Catch me outside.
Starting point is 02:02:42 Catch me outside. That's a white girl. Yeah. Nobody was like, is this a race fact? to hear no it's a ghetto ass mindset guys let me wrap up with two stories and we'll be done here one congrats to rogan for getting a
Starting point is 02:02:54 quarter billion out of renewal contract with spotify you love seeing that happening and uh i think i saw it in ap it says controversial podcast hosts gets a 200 controversial controversial they'll still call it very controversial podcast host Joe rogan signs a new deal with spotify reported 250 million dollars
Starting point is 02:03:11 but the story i wanted to get to is the starbucks story okay Starbucks CEO, Brian Nicol, who used to be the previous CEO of Chipotle, who took Chipotle from $7 billion to $71 billion in valuation, who when he got the job with Starbucks as the new CEO, the stock increased $20 billion in one day. He got $130,000, 190 million auto contract. They have now announced that Starbucks is thinking about buying Chipotle.
Starting point is 02:03:37 Oh, man. So you leave Chipotle, you go to Starbucks with the plans of buying your previous employer. That's so great, sir. And when that announcement is made, So one, Tom, good idea. Do you see this? This is a very, very weird. This is kind of like when Amazon bought Whole Foods from that guy, Mackey, you know,
Starting point is 02:03:59 and it's like, why is Amazon buying Whole Foods? And it actually ended up being a very good flywheel. Do you think this makes sense for Starbucks to purchase Chipotle? Yes, and I'll tell you why. Because he's going to be purchasing. saying let's never mind that he was CEO, Vinny. But let's say, okay, he really turned Chipotle around and got it, you know, out of the ditch from the food, the food contamination and all the things it went and he got it rolling. Chipotle says, you know, level up food compared to pure fast food.
Starting point is 02:04:35 Check. Starbucks, level up coffee compared to 7-Eleven, right? You see parallels here? multiple locations out there, yes. I see alignment here on the two businesses, Pat. This would be one of the largest mergers in restaurant history. You know, Burger King bought Tim Hortons, which is in Canada. That was pretty big. I think this would be bigger than that.
Starting point is 02:04:59 I think this might be the biggest of all time. But I see alignment. Number one, he knows both organizations. Number two, how they buy real estate, where they put their locations, who they're catering to, the rewards program that they're putting. together. Can you imagine if your Starbucks rewards card is now combined with your Tripoli rewards, so you get rewards at both and you get benefits? I just see a lot of synergies and things that could work from a guy that knows both sides of it. And as a shareholder,
Starting point is 02:05:27 you know what? You know, I, this would not upset me. And I know one thing, you know, 10 seconds into it, that's Starbucks coffee there at Chipotle in the morning. You're getting your Burrito Burista. Your breakfast burrito and Starbucks coffee right there. So I see a lot of things that go together, not just because he was CEO of both, Pat, I see product overlap, strategic overlap. I kind of like this. And by the way, the market on the Starbucks side also liked it. So would you recommend buying a stock in Chipotle right now?
Starting point is 02:06:01 Pat, this is already announced it's coming out. No, no, it's a whisper. It's a whisper. So I'm just saying it's a whisper and $31. ballers. Listen, I like Brian Nicol a lot. I don't know if it's going to be a collaboration where you're going to go to Chipotle and order Starbucks.
Starting point is 02:06:21 Or like, you know how sometimes you see some gas stations that subways in there. I don't know if, you know, he's got, this guy's brilliant. There's certain things he sees that we don't see and I don't yet know what it is. I do know Starbucks has been struggling lately. not like the pre-him coming there. They had a hard time, and they've been dealing with a couple media stuff. One of them was the sugar stories. Starbucks sued over alleged substantial amount of sugar in their sugar-free drink.
Starting point is 02:06:49 What? Company denies claims. This is an ABC story. It could be a BS story as well. And then there is a story that came out with them having slime in their drinks and be careful and all this other stuff. So the proposed class action lawsuit filed, the suit filed by plaintiff represented by sells eight beverages.
Starting point is 02:07:07 It says, Elagia Starbucks sells eight beverages whose names have been, begin with the word sugar-free, even though they contain between 13 to 21 grams of sugar per venti-sized serving. The eight drinks are sugar-free,
Starting point is 02:07:22 vanilla, caramel protein, lattes, and machado's hot and ice. The 21 grams of sugar contained in vintage drinks are roughly equal to 5 teaspoons of sugar. So they're dealing with the stuff, but he's a big boy. Brian's a big boy.
Starting point is 02:07:33 He knows what he's doing. I don't know if I fully yet see the, collaboration, but let's see how the market reacts. Brian's got something off his sleeves that we're not thinking about, Tom. I see locations. I see strategic overlap. I see consumer overlap. But I'd love to hear more about it. By the way, I didn't say it was sugar-free like no sugar. I said the sugar was free.
Starting point is 02:07:52 I'm not charging it. Okay, now I get it. Not like that. Look, Tom kind of summed it all up. Here's all I'll say. You have a customer going from Starbucks having your morning coffee and then having lunch at Chipotle. that sounds like a volatile situation in the bathroom market where the customer to toilet ratio is going to have a liquidity crisis because there's going to be a market crash of toilets at that point. So be very careful with your increase of toilet usage
Starting point is 02:08:19 after your Chapoelais, Starbucks situation. That's the first thing that came to mind to me. If he starts buying toilet paper, like if he starts owning toilet paper, then we have like that's a great flywheel. That's a flywheel, Pat. All right, gang, the grocer, there you want to work in because we're about to wrap up just to say hi. We had a good podcast, lots of good stories, different things that was covered.
Starting point is 02:08:39 But with that being said, gang, the coins, I didn't expect this thing to go the way you did. The coins sold out within 15. I actually believe that. They were only $200. They sold out within $50. I thought there would be $1,000. No, no, they were gone. This is a great deal.
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