PBD Podcast - Frank Rodriguez Reveals SHOCKING Truth Behind Puberty Blocking Drugs | Ep. 249 | Part 1

Episode Date: March 22, 2023

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I What I become. I was eating fake California. Yeah, it was not the kind of food. Anyway, so today we got a special podcast. It's episode number one, 249. We have Frank Rodriguez whom I'll play a clip for you that if you don't recognize, he is the executive director from Gaze against groomers. I saw video clip of what he said, which I'll play again in a second.

And I said, it's impressive to have message like that being given to the audience that he did. And then I looked him up, I shared it on Twitter, and then him and I got connected. I wanna say, Frank, you and I have been talking for a month, two months, we've been going back and forth. And then eventually I talked to Rob, I said, let's get you on the calendar, you're here now,

you flew in from a wonderful airport that we all love. So for those of you that don't know Gaze against groomers, let me kind of set you up in a beautiful way. Please. Because I know Wikipedia, obviously, whatever they write, it's got to be 100% accurate. Of course. Does kind of go through this.

So here's Wikipedia's definition of gaze against groomers is an American far right anti LGBT organization known for protesting against gender affirming care for minors including at a hospital that provided against LGBT representation at schools and against drag queen story hour event. Some people may say these are good things. If you call that far right, you take that far right out, Some people may say these are good things. If you call

that far right, you take that far right out. Many parents would say these are things I'm concerned about. A spokesperson for the LGBT advocacy group GLAAD has claimed that the group uses the slur grumer to characterize LGBT people as pedophiles. Gag gas hosted anti LGBTQ rallies, alongside other far right and anti LGBTQ organizations, such as Moms for Liberty, which has been attended by proud boys. And then it goes into explaining how Jamie Mitchell started it, who before what she did and how it led to a lips of TikTok and those videos went viral, et cetera, et cetera. Having said that, thank you for being

on the podcast. Thank you for having me. From your perspective, what does gaze against groomers do? Yeah, so we're a coalition of gay people that do not stand for the sexualization, medicalization, or indoctrination of children through the LGBT and Brella. And for instance, we compete, it likes to preference that using the word groomers and anti-LGBT, QSLR,

and I would argue regardless of what your sexuality is, anyone can be word groomer is an anti-LGBT-cusular, and I would argue, regardless of what your sexuality is, anyone can be a groomer. And so we're targeting all of the things that are happening within our community that damage its children, and that's going to be like drag queen story hour, which is hypersexualized content in front of children. We're also pushing back against gender ideology, which is forces children to go down a journey of chemical castration or seeking out surgeries to do these types of things to affirm these genders that they feel like.

Our organization spends a heavy amount of time educating the public with information sessions, attending school board meeting, city council meetings. We have our voices heard in federal legislatures and state legislation, and to be able doing it. We are doing it. We are doing it. We are doing it. We are doing it. We are doing it.

We are doing it. We are doing it. We are doing it. We are doing it. We are doing it. We are doing it. We are doing it. us identify or fall under the LGBT umbrella. So being anti ourselves is never something that is in our mission. Our mission is to save children from the indoctrination that's happening through our umbrella. That's pretty well. I brought

obviously we have Jed here from the great Jedadaya Villa live show and we got the biz doc in the house as well. Both of your parents you have a hearty you got Bailey and Broke. I got my set of kids as well. This is something that's very important to all of us as parent. It is a concern. I do want to play this clip of what got my attention of what you were talking about. And some of you who follow the podcast closely, you saw this clip a couple of months back. If you want to play this, maybe the first two minutes will be great.

Every teacher that has a pride flag in their classroom should be fired and arrested. The gay flag is a sexual flag. It represents nothing other than sexual things. Gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, and questioning. What business is it of anyone on this board of what children would like to do with other children? It is none of your business. It is between them and their parents. But however, you guys want to illegally survey your students.

My name is Frank Rodriguez on the Executive Director of Operations for Gaze Against Scrumors. I'm a 31-year-old gay man pushing back against the agenda that's happening within our classrooms. Keeping parents away from this discussion is absolutely severing the relationship between a child and their parent. My community is not discriminated against anymore. Shockingly enough, we succeeded. Now you're sending out surveys that's asking students what their gender is, what their pronouns are,

and whether or not you should be telling their parents. Could you imagine if my son or one of yours went to school and said, hey, I'm gay and you never knew? All of you up here are pretty intelligent. You have doctorate degrees, you're educated and you lead this district. But yet, you turn a blind eye with the sexual things that happen in your classroom. I refuse to believe that any of you think that that's appropriate. Because if you think that that is appropriate, you would be a predator.

There's images that are going to be displayed today for you to see. Of a child sucking another child off. And that's in your classrooms. I shake because it makes me uncomfortable to eat an utter those words to you. This is nothing about inclusion. It is nothing about respect to my community. I say with you with 100% truth according to the Center of Disease Control that the reason my community faces such issues in this world has absolutely nothing to do with the straight people on this planet. As everything to do with the drugs that we digest, as everything

to do with our access to healthcare? The number one reason my community has so many mental health issues is because they don't have access to healthcare. And that's the that's directly from the CDC. It is not slurs, it's not gay bashing. We don't have access to therapy. If you really want to help the LGBTQ community to feel really accepted in this world, embrace that people have mental health issues and they should seek help. Having a classroom without the American flag in it is a disgrace to this country. If this country wasn't here, millions of people around the world would perish.

And that flag, this flag should be held high by every single student. And so, question, when you gave that speech, I saw it, I couldn't believe it. You can always judge, you know, who is an enemy based on who reacts to this and who pushes back and say, and I can't believe he said this, what a speech,

this is ridiculous, he's such a, he's such a, that who pushes back and say, and I can't believe he said this, what a speech. This is ridiculous. He's such a, this, he's such a, that who push back on your speech? Who came back and said, crank, you don't know what you're talking about? So the main people that push back against this was going to be my community, the LGBT community. They're very vocal in this, the far left,

when it comes to these types of things, though the woke side of this. And then also a lot of woke women also push back on this. I think when it comes to my community, the gay community, when we point out these things that really need help, such as our mental health issues or our drug addiction rates, no one wants to talk about these things.

They want to brush those under the rug. But the moment you get someone like Huntington Beach wanting to just fly the American flag at their facilities, they get uproar, they get angry, they get mad, but no one fights for the things that we actually need. And so that's why I'm really glad that this speech that I say that shook the world actually opened their eyes to a lot of people because there are things that my community needs. And unfortunately, they're pushing back on it.

Jett, your reaction when you hear something like this is apparent, what are your thoughts about this? Yeah, as a parent and somebody who's to work in schools. This is to me a deeply anti-parental rights movement and the school really wants to get in the way of the relationship between parents and their children and you have guidance counselors now, I'm sure you know that are being told by administration,

keep a confidential, don't make phone calls home to parents. You need to make sure these kids are protected. And they presented as a guide of protection essentially against their own parents. So you have kids being turned against their parents in many respects, and they feel like the parents are the enemy. They no longer speak to their parents. It breaks down the lines of communication,

which essentially enables indoctrination on many levels then. Then you have students in oftentimes left wing institutions, they're not communicating with their parents and larger issues begin to be received in terms of the indoctrination that we see in schools. I think it's interesting though, when I heard you talk about the American flag, that had to be such an enormous trigger

for these people because a lot of the people who are battling against what you're doing are also battling what this country represents. Everything this country represents. And I think them hearing you say that about the American flag, the response, the trigger reaction is, well, there's people who don't like the American flag. So what is your point about? There's people that, why can't we take the American flag down? Why is the American flag held to a different standard than an LGBTQ flag? So I'm sure that they felt incredibly triggered by that remark because not only do they have

a deep resentment of this country and a deep resentment of everything it stands for, but they want to correlate what you're saying is true, a sexual representation of sexuality and a representation of just this country, the values of liberty, the values of freedom and whatnot. So I think that's where you drove these people to insanity. Just the reference of the American flag itself will make them nuts. And thanks for doing what you're doing because if nothing else, you're speaking out. And I'm sure you get, I can't even imagine what comes your way from the woke community. So good for you, man.

Thank you. You know, I'm looking at this article, what is sexual grooming? This is an article from 2017. I don't know if you have this or not. It's not a new article. It's a six years old. Seven things to know about this abuse tactic. Okay.

Number one, anyone can be a victim. Okay. It often starts with friendship, got it. Purpose traders use favors and promises to build trust. Make sense. Five, grooming can be difficult to distinguish. I'm sorry, secrecy is a common characteristic of grooming, which is number four. Number five is grooming can be

difficult to distinguish from romance. Victims can get out, family members and friends can help, but it's important for them to tread carefully. So this comment, this topic of grooming, I watch Vice to the documentary, they the two weeks ago, I don't know if you saw that or not, from a couple of weeks ago when it came out, did you see the, I don't think so. Okay, it's not really a documentary, it's just a clip they put on their channel. If you can go to it, I just send it to you on your,

yeah, right there. So this whole thing that came out, transphobic influencers are driving a violent, groomer conspiracy. Okay, so we don't need to play this clip, but if you play it, you guys are in it, you know, mad washes in it, Rogans in it, a lot of people are in it, that they're pushing back.

I'm sure you saw this, Chad. I did. On what they're doing. So the argument of this video is there is no such thing as groomers, okay? Cool, no problem. Now play what just came out from Project veritas that one you can actually play From two days ago, which I'm sure you guys have seen if you've not seen it

This is from two days ago, okay, and this is what parents are concerned about right when this Reverend I think is called a reverend of What is the organization called I think it's called the of what is the organization called? I think it's called the... It's on California. Landslide something, something, you know, rabbi texted it to you. If you wanna look at it, it's an Instagram video.

It says, breaking groomers, reverend KC Martinez, you know, how they do what they do. If you just look at your text, you'll see that I send it to you. It's Luma Space in Congregation of the United Church of Christ, Casey Martinez, Tinan. That's the guy who was. Very disturbing to see what this guy saying in the interview. Do you see it?

I'll just put a thumbs up so you see it. I think I texted you like literally 839. If you look up 839, send it to you right there. Put a thumbs up on it. And you see, have you taken a look at the center of your time or no no Won't you listen to this if you can zoom in a little bit so the audience can see it there you go and Refresh it so we can watch it from the beginning Perfect

There we go audio In my mind How communities drive free the first part I'm trying to refresh and get the audio at the same time and pause it so I can just read the, just press the button so it doesn't play. I know we're like this close to having parents freaking the f out is how he opens it up, then play it. I just want to have parents of the freaking in my mind, how community is blind through intergenerational relations.

So I and the older clear folks are mentoring museum notes. You've got clear things about the world. How do you consider blockers? How critical is it, do you think? It's a ridiculous again and when they're young. A ridiculous one. We used to meet up at church because it was free.

And kids would say they're going to eat this. We used to the library because kids said they were meeting their friends at the library. So it's not lying, but it's not fully the truth. Even they know that their clear kid is coming to me for support, they're gonna be upset. It's when you are purposely misjongering them. When you are purposely not using their name. I do hear all that.

I call CPS, but that's your standard protocol. If we want these kids to thrive and survive, we must get to their parents' parents' parents. Meet Reverend Casey Tinnon of Luma Space in Congregational Church in Luma's California. Casey is also the founder of the Landing Spot. A nonprofit community center meant to create, quote, a safe, supportive, and empowering space for LGBTQIA plus youth and their families. A product? It's stuff like this that parents see and vice one minute

saying no one's doing this. The word conspiracy. It's a conspiracy theorist. Groomers, all this other stuff. Then you see this and they say, okay, vice, why don't you now do something like project veritas is doing and really find out for us from both sides whether this has happened or not. What's your reaction when you see something like project veritas is doing, and really find out for us from both sides whether this has happened or not. What's your reaction when you see something like this?

Grimmings happen in many forms. It's not just sexual grooming. When you think of grooming, anytime you take a child away from a parent and teach them something that it goes against the parents' beliefs, you are grooming that child into your ideologies, your beliefs,

in the way that you want that child to be, regardless if that's going to be sexual, religious, or any other political ways that you think that that child should be. Grumina is happening in so many different capacities, and that's why gaze against groomers is making such headway in this, because we're breaking barriers and destroying narratives that the woke agenda has formed to be able to captive these children against their parents, like we were saying earlier. If a child, like in this video where they say that children might commit suicidality

or something like that, having parents involved in that child's experience from day one, from when they're born until the parents are gone, is vital to the success of that person. And that's vital for my community. If we don't have our parents involved in the decisions that we're making, you're setting up that child to have 40% hired at the drug addiction rates,

25% to be able to commit suicide, and just going down a journey that is not supported on their own, they need their parents. And so like this video saying he can't go to the parents, that's deeply disturbing because if a child has questions about who they are or the journey they want to take in their life, the number one people that can handle this conversation are the parents. I mean, they can't indoctrinate the kids though unless they remove the parents. It's integral.

So I mean, that guy saying, sitting and saying a reverence, no less, sitting and outright encouraging, lying, saying lie to your parents. He says, well, it's not lying, but of course it's lying, and saying that he's going to call child protective services on parents for misgendering the kids. I mean, he's now making a decision. He's deciding to play parent.

He's removed those parents from the equation. He said, you don't matter. You're a hazard to your own parent. He's removed those parents from the equation. He said, you don't matter. You're a hazard to your own children. He's made that decision. And now he said, well, I'm going to do a better job. The state essentially is going to do a better job of raising your kids than you are. And it's such an integral step. Because if you had parents involved, you would have pushback.

So what's interesting is that for years, we've had indoctrination of kids, years and years and years. And that you're right. That has been grooming. And a lot of conservatives have pushed back on that for years. But something different happened here when it applied to this stuff related to sexuality. That word groomer because that word was used before. We've been using, I've been using that word, oh, they're grooming kids in schools for years. But there wasn't this type of pushback.

Why do you think now when it came to sexuality, why such a pushback to the point where you've gotten banned? I'm sure we'll talk about that, where that word was banned on Twitter, where you couldn't talk about something, there is something deeply sinister going on with this agenda as it relates to children.

And I don't know if there's a lot of money to be made by pharma. I don't know if a lot of institutions are connected, but there's something different going on that goes above and beyond just traditional indoctrination in schools that they are responding to you, the way that they are. What do you think that is? Yeah, so I talk about this a lot.

In my community, you kind of see it from this gentleman here who obviously is gay. The time that we grew up, there was definitely a time where we were suppressed. We were attacked for just a time where we were suppressed, we were attacked for just simply being who we were. And I'm a firm believer that a majority of my community has not overcome that closet trauma,

and now they're projecting that onto these kids, and they're suffering the consequences of this. And so you see that in the statistics like, you know, 60% of my community not getting access to mental health care. And so, pairing that with what we're seeing today, a lot of the people like this gentleman here, I hate to say, is probably dealing with some sort

of mental health issue that he has not overcome. And now we're projecting this onto kids, as if it's going to help them, and it's not. We're seeing damage, we're seeing kids, you know, seeking out gender affirming surgeries and coming back and saying that they don't want to transition because of behaviors like this affirming. I got two questions for you, okay.

I'll go with this one since we are in the topic right now. Frank, at what age did you know you were gay? Yeah, so I started thinking about my sexuality probably around 10 years old and started talking to my parents about it and going down that journey with them. The most concerning part is if I would have grown up in today's society, simply putting on my mom's shoes and maybe playing around with her makeup would have deemed me a girl and they would have sent me to be medically transitioned and I would no longer be able to have kids

right now. So that's why you see our community pushing back on this because I would have felt victim to this agenda. In that video you said you're 31, you're old gay man, are you 31 or 32? 31. 31, okay, so you're still 31, that's great. You're once your birthday, you're January. Oh, so we got some time to go. So you're gonna celebrate 31 for a minute.

So here's a question for you. I asked it before you came in and I was wondering what these guys would say. Out of 100 gay men, specifically gay, how many of the gay men in America, you think were born gay? How many you think were recruited, baptized, indoctrinated,

inated into believing their gay, or they just had a really rough life, father figure was in there, was a mess parents drugs whatever What percentage you think that we're born what percentage were like I may be I'm not getting the attention Let me maybe be gay. What are your thoughts on that? Yeah, so I remember reading a study that said like the more older brothers You have the more likelihood you are to be you know homosexual if I had to take a best guess

I don't have statistics on this. I would say probably 25% of the gay community was sexually assaulted that put them into this community. I've seen plenty of that happen, and probably the rest is the grooming, but a majority of people I would feel like myself just come to the being of, I'm attracted to the sex that I'm attracted to. So I would say about 25% of his best guest. 25% was born. No, 25% would have been groomed

or had some sort of negative life influence that would have led them down that way. And you think the other 75% is was born that way? Yeah, like when we say born that way, I would argue that it would be growing up in a generation or in a journey that you didn't have grooming happening where it's like, you must be gay, it's happening now.

Throwing it, I believe you mentioned in a podcast, saying it to a child a thousand times, it's gonna, it's gonna, it's didn't happen. Yeah, yeah. And so I'm thinking, 75% are just simply, have great parents and we're just embraced of who they were and grew up to be a gay person. Can you, did you see the Bill Mar episode where he talked about what percentage of different

generations were gay? Did you ever see that clip or no? I think it's doubled, I think. It went from like one percent to a few. I got to show this to you. So here's what he does. And he says, if you, if you look at the silence generation, 0.8% of the silent generation born into 40s is gay. 2.6% of boomers, 4.2% of Gen X, 10.5% of millennial, 20.8% of Gen Z, and then 41.6, I don't know if 41.6

is Gen Y or or Gen.C. Okay, but you're seeing the trend going up. Obviously, the joke for him was by 2080, we're all gonna be gay. That's kind of what Bill Maurel was talking about. But when you think about a percentage growth like this, all I think about is, is it really 75%? We don't know.

I mean, no matter that's not a research that anybody's gonna really be able to get, right? Because if there's, we all have a friend, like, hey, when I was a kid, I remember this one guy, there were two brothers and we knew from fourth grade that we did, you know, hey, I remember when I was a kid, you know, this person was, I remember this girl that was, we all have a story.

Well, we look at him and say, yeah, that makes sense. I'm not surprised. And we grew up, or like 22 years old, did you know, Johnny was, well, am I surprised? I'm not surprised. And we grew up, or like 22 years of digital, Johnny, was, well, am I surprised? I knew at eight years old, the sky was possibly gonna be this. I think the concern that a lot of parents are having, Bill Moore is not a parent.

This guy chose to live a different life. He's also sitting there saying, why are the percentages of gaze keep increasing the way it does? So then the grooming concept gets a little bit of credibility. Maybe that is happening. Maybe it is becoming a religion to be part of the LGBTQ community. Because if that's the case, and if it's a religion,

what is wrong with baptized and others? What is wrong with trying to convince you, whether you're gay or not, whether you're like men or not? So that's the argument where, you know, if other religions are baptized and people can't, I impose my religion on you, can I impose my philosophy on you? So do you think they see it that way? The groomer see it that way that I'm baptizing your kids

just like the institution has been baptized in us and to believe in more Christians, God exists, all this other stuff. Do you think they see it that way? I think when someone is grooming a child, to be a part of the LGBT community, I think they know exactly what they're doing. You see a lot of people, especially on TikTok,

pushing this onto their children. As if it's something some sort of fat, we use this phrase called transcending. And it's because we see like in schools like in Castro Valley, Unified School District, they paint it 10 foot pride flags on their floors and their elementary schools. If you're not putting gay on a pedestal and popularizing it, you know, then I don't know what is.

So they're putting these this community as a on a pedestal and everyone wants to strive for that in school. And the students are messaging us saying that they can't speak out. They can't tell people how they feel because they're in fear of judgment, they're in fear of violence. And this is happening as young,

I get these messages from kids in elementary school that they're scared. And so I would agree that based on these numbers, you can definitely say, grooming is happening at a wide scale in our school systems. And one of the things that my side or the woke side will push back on is people are more accepting now. People are able to be themselves now

and come out of the closet now. And I would argue there is absolutely no statistics to prove that, but there are statistics showing that the more acceptance and the more we push it in our schools, the more children are going to identify that way. And if we're want to play dumb, then we cannot acknowledge that. Would you, Tom and Jed, I'm gonna ask you guys as parents, would you?

Would it bother you if they came out and they got a tax code like Scientology and it becomes a religion. And it's no longer a gender, you know, where it's not a gender that your male, female, oh my God, all these other pronouns that I gotta remember all, no, guess what it is. Moving forward, LGBTQ is a religion.

We're non-profit organization. We have preachers, we have pastors, and we baptize, and yes, we are converting, we are doing it, the same way Christians are doing it, the same way Muslims are doing it, the same way Catholics are doing it, the same way seven day, you know, Jehovah, LDS is doing it. That's what we're doing.

We are officially religion. Would that make you a little bit more comfortable knowing their motive is now clear? Well, it would be transparent at least. I mean, it's a religion already. We can all acknowledge it is a religion. I mean, I always say leftism is a religion, environmentalism. These radical agenda, these are religions.

But they would one never do that because part of what's happening here is, you know, indoctrination, there's a slinest to it. There's a sneakingness to it. There's a, you have to normalize the grooming, right, in order to indoctrinate. You have to make it like, no, this is just a new way of life. Where this is, we're just being accepting and kind before we were bigoted and we were harassing people and now we're just making everything.

This is what the new normal is and it's healthy. They need it to look like that. If it becomes a religion, then they're gonna open themselves to a lot of criticism. There's gonna be people that are gonna be able to say, I opt not to be a part of that and just like someone able to say, I opt not to be a part of that. And just like someone else can say, I opt not to be a part of Christianity or I opt not to be a part of Judaism. That would have to also be accepted then that you make a choice and you're either going to be part of this whole grooming system or you're not.

They don't want that. They want that to be the new normal whereby then everyone has to adhere or where the label where the label of being a bigot. That's the structure that needs to be in place for the grooming to be successful. Yeah, you know, I look at it and their goal is, is not to be separate and contrasted. They don't want that because if you say, oh, you're a religion, now you're a category, now you're in a box, you draw a box around that and that's not what the movement wants because that's going to create contrast, that's not what the movement wants. Because that's gonna create contrast.

That's gonna create separatism. Oh, Jewish people are like this, Muslim people are like this. And this group over here is like this, that's what they want. Exactly what she said, they want normalcy. More importantly, this is just noise. What's going on deeper underneath is a socialist Marxist trend to split children

away from their parents, not on any particular sexual theme, but for the state to control thought and the state to kind of indoctrinate kids. And that's really what the big root of the tree is. And all we're seeing on this is kind of noise. But if they were to just, you know, it is religion and she's correct. It's an ideal, I don't understand what I'm saying. I want you to think about the question of masking. Just hear me out of the question of masking. What if they flat out came and they said they are a religion?

Okay, and you know, here's what we believe in. We wanna baptize you in the name of the lesbians, the gays, the, youays, whatever, the LGBT, this is what we do. And we think this is a way of life. Then you and I can sit there because somebody can argue and say, what's wrong with what we're doing? You guys are doing that, okay?

When your kids go to Christian schools, don't you ask them to read the Bible and do that? Isn't that a form of shaping their mindset? Isn't that what you're doing? Again, they're arguing, I'm just thinking about what their argument would be. The club would be very small though, because most people don't want this.

What happens is the kids go to these schools, they're groomed, they're indoctrinated. Now those kids are being changed and transformed without even realizing it. So they need people to be in a system where they don't realize what's happening to them and it's stealthy and it's sly. And then all of a sudden, they're part of the club

and everyone has to accept it. If it was something that you had to join and actually actively understand but it was how many parents do you think would really want their kids to be part of that religion? There would be almost no one. Parents are being dragged into this because they don't have a choice because kids go to school.

All of this happens without parental consent and before they know it, they're being puppeteered. So without the puppeteering, the whole system breaks down and that club would actually be, it would consist of, you know, a lot of crazy people and some hard leftists and it would be very small and it would be isolated. They can't have it be isolated. It needs to be media endorsed. It needs to be media endorsed. It needs to be Hollywood endorsed. It needs to take over society at large

or they're not happy. Yeah, to answer your question directly, it would at least be intellectually straightforward and transparent. And they would say, okay, this is us. So this is our box. This is where we are. But what they would find,

what you will find in there is you would find, and maybe there's a question back for you, you would find a huge percent of people that identify as gay or lesbian of being equally concerned about the reflection back on them. So the more separate that the, as you would say, the religion or the cult of grooming becomes, the more isolated it becomes, even you would say, the religion or the cult of grooming becomes the more isolated

becomes even from the mainstream, you know, gay and lesbian families and citizens. I would say like the biggest distinction when you want to like compare it to like a religion, you know, for the aspect of grooming, you're removing those parents from to groom that child. So in this case, you would be removing the parents to groom them in under this new religion. And so that is a big, big red flag for me. And I think that it's absolutely disgusting because when you take someone, when you take a child, like your child, to a church, any church of any denomination, you're grooming that child because that is your child. You make that decision as the parent. That is your child. But when my community removes you as a parent and wants to indoctrinate that child into this religion,

now you're a predator. Frank, go to any one of your guys. So in the last seven, 80 years, the seven years, the number one pastor preacher that baptizes the most people into the religion of Christianity, 210 million people is Billy Graham. Okay. And the last 15 years, one would say it's Joe Lostin. He does it at the old rockets, you know, Houston rockets arena and 80,000 people come per weekend and he is the current modern day. Who is the Billy Graham or the Joe Lostin of the LGBTQ

community baptizing the most people right now. I would say RuPaul. You think RuPaul? Yes, his show that he puts on is hyper sexualized. It's put on mainstream TV. And they even spoke about grooming in their most recent season. Children see this on TV and granted, the things that happen on TV are not going to be

as sexual as what you see in person. But that is the gateway to wanna explore this industry. Now, when a child goes to a place like RuPaul's Dragcon that attracts thousands of people, you see children on stage performing for adults in ways that are very inappropriate. And the only place that that behavior is okay is in platforms and places like what the LGBT community puts up.

And if you take a child to a straight bar and allow them to do these things, is in platforms and places like what the LGBT community puts up. And if you take a child to a straight bar and allow them to do these things, it's all of a sudden that's wrong. But because you paint pride flags on the walls and celebrate sexuality, it's now all of a sudden okay. Who also did you put on that list? I said a RuPaul.

Would you put this Jeremy Marsh guy up there on TikTok what he's doing? You don't want to talk about? Yes, Jeffrey Marsh. Jeffrey Marsh can you play? Can you play this one here real quick? I mean, this sounds very appropriate the way he talks. Just listen to this. Obviously, so I can't say. Hey kids.

Hi kids. I want to talk to the kids. Hey kids. Hi kids. Hey kids. Hi, it's good for children to see LGBTQ lives. Your parents screwed up if you need a family. You can come hang out with me.

Very appropriate. I mean, just sounds like a sweet heart of a guy, right? Very creepy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But the old tone, right? But the question I'm asking is, you know, this is purely baptism. This is nothing more than baptism. This is nothing more than, you know, what some of these cults would recruit people over, who are some of the bigger cult leaders that we read about, that, you know, have done documentaries or movies about, right?

There's a bunch of them. The model works, you know, you pin them against parents, you, you know, create an enemy, it's not fair, you make them feel welcome, you know, create an enemy, it's not fair, you make them feel welcome, you make them feel love, they go to a place, they're accepted, they're a little bit weird, and hey, come and be part of our group, it is a formal baptism. This is why I think it's become a religion. This is not a gender argument. This is purely a religion, and they feel their approach right now, they're about, obviously

if you look at statistically, you got to give them credit, they're about, obviously if you look at statistically, you gotta give them credit, they're winning because statistically, they're baptizing a higher percentage of generation to generation to generation and they're winning. So you guys wanna fight against that, right? What is your approach to fight against that? Yeah, so a lot of people don't hear

from our side of the gay community. And there are a lot of people don't hear from, you know, our side of the gay community. And there are a lot of people on our side that do not agree with this. The moment you such as like this gender ideology, the moment you say a man is however you want to identify or a woman is however you want to identify, you just eliminated gays and lesbians. That's my whole sexuality that I'm attracted to men, not someone that identifies as a man and not someone with a prostate. I'm attracted to men. And the moment you change that now, you're, now I'm no longer here.

So that's why a majority of our community, especially on our website that we mentioned an overwhelming amount of the LGBT community, is not okay with what is happening now with this gender ideology. So what we do is we go to school boards and we let them know like ways that they can actually help our community and ways that they can actually get involved in a positive way and keep the parents there. Okay, let me ask you a question on that

and I'm going to ask you for an estimate here. When we look at any political party, look at the right wing or left wing, so I'm not picking any. People will say, well, there's the core Republicans on the right, and then there's this weird fringe, and then even core Democrats will say, well, I'm a core Democrat, I'm not out there with AOC, I'm not out there with Bernie, I'm core, right? What percent would you say when you just said my community thinks like you, and what percent is this vocal, you know, I want to say

French, but this vocal group. What percent would you say that is that if you got everybody in room, has secret ballot, how many people that are living gay, lesbian, lives, families of their own would say they're with you and what, but maybe very nervous about saying anything. And what percent is this vocal vocal group? Yeah, so I would argue 60 to 70 percent do not agree with this gender ideology. We get tons of support silently from the LGBT community and it is because of the violence that we face every single day. You know, I've had things show up at my door. I've had people come at my door. And so that alone, everything that we have gone through, everything that I

have gone through is enough to get me me off of this journey and say, you know what, I'm too scared. This is going to affect my life. This is going to affect my mother's life and my parents' life, and it has. And I tell my family all the time, this is a journey that I will happily die on this hill for and lose everything for, because this is my community.

I would have felt victim to this. So 60% 70% of my community does not support this. And that's why Gaze Against Grumer is so important because we're actually providing that voice that no one has heard before. You just want to talk about RuPaul. I just want to add to that. First of all, on this guy, Jeffrey Marsh is insane. Dylan Mulvaney is a very key influence, particularly with young people, all over TikTok. So, I mean, there was just recently a video that came out of him wanting, acting like a little girl. I mean, so, and I'm curious when we talk about this from your perspective, you talked about, you know, mental illness and not having access to the help. You need how much of what's going on now here with what you see, 15 genders plus, the

pronouns everywhere, what are very clearly grown men that are acting in very strange ways, creepy videos being targeted toward kids. How much of this that's going on now is undiagnosed mental illness that people are afraid to call mental illness because they're afraid of being labeled a bigot or whatnot. And now this is being normalized. An infiltrating a movement that really started when it came to the gay rights movement has just live and let live.

You know, that's a very good question. And I'm in a very good spot to be able to answer something like this. And before I do, I just want to let it know that this comes from love from my community. It does not come from hate. I know leading up to the show people wanted to say that we're just a far right platform, pushing far right ideologies.

But this is a concern. I would say that a majority of it is, I go down into the lion's den of the groomer capital of the world in California, and I speak to these people, and a majority of people, in my opinion, are suffering from something. And just to me, overwhelmingly just want to give them a hug because it's like, you guys are pushing so hard for things that don't make sense. Why? This doesn't all add up.

And so I would argue a majority of it is. And it's really unfortunate because they paint us as being these hateful people when we're really just trying to kick them the help that they need so they can live a happy life. Yeah. Who's this on? Is this on? Parents? Is it on activists?

Is it on teachers? Is it on politicians? Is it on big pharma? Who is this on? I wouldn't blame anyone individually. I wouldn't blame a group individually. I think it is overwhelmingly our country's inability to get access to healthcare.

When you go and get mental health services and you're able to talk to an actual mental health professional, not someone that is a mental health advocate for their own personal gain, but actually someone that wants to see you get better, I think that that's where we're lacking as a country, because you see it with the percentages in my community, you think six out of 10 can't go see a therapist

that's deeply concerning. Why can't they? I would argue that we earned 10% less, we're also 40% as addicted to drugs, so all of these things, you know, hinders from wanting to seek the help that we need. And then also the culture of the LGBT community. If you go down and then you interact with a lot of our community, there is not a lot of self accountability, extreme ownership in these things. And it's very much celebrated and accepted. When you see your fellow gay, you know, digesting some sort of narcotic to party,

you hype them up instead of saying, hey, you know what, we should probably not do these types of things and we should probably get you some help and those types of things don't happen. You said you make 10% less. Yes. Do you say, is it the LGBTQ that makes 10% less or gay couples make 10% less.

The LGBT. Okay, that makes sense because gay couples make more than heterosexual couples. I don't know if you've seen this on US Census Bureau. No. Yeah, gay couples make more money than, yeah, if you can pull this up, it's straight up from the Census Bureau.

You may be right on the LGBTQ side, but here, if you show, there you go. That's the study. If you use implements, improve, and as you know, I'll zoom in a little bit, 2019. Same second, I have couples meeting household income, higher median household income than opposing sex. So the reason why specifically asked the question

the way I did, yeah, let's look at this. In the 29th, same-sex couples accounted for just 1% American couples. The small shares partly due to a few of same-sex relations overall, which are also low among unmarried partners, lower marriage raise same-sex couples, country-added, percent opposite sex.

I'm going to, among same-sex couples, go to the number of overall same-sex married couples had a higher median income households than opposite sex married couples had a higher median income households than opposite sex-married couples. 107 to 96, respectively. And same-sex female married couples had a lower median household income than same-sex male. I ask that because I don't think it's right for LGBTQ. I don't think it's right for Gays because they tend to, typically you'll hear,

if you live in a community where there's there's a community here What's the community here? That's a gay community well ten manners. Well ten manners, right safe community, right? Westwood there's a lot of communities if the they're there It's a safer community, but the 40% drugs that you said why do you think it's 40% a more drug addiction? What do you think that is? Yeah, I would say it's self-suiting. So when you look and see that we can't get access to that healthcare, you see that we even consume alcohol a little bit higher than the industry counterparts. And this comes from the American Psychological Association.

I think that we're using that as a crutch. And just to point out, this is for married couples, right? Yes. Yeah. So I was coming from more of a single individual perspective, not a married perspective. And so for me, that's what I would argue. And it's also probably the culture, I would say, that doing these types of things is very accepted.

So you're talking about access to healthcare, but what I'm seeing is a lot of people who don't want care. They're not seeking out care and saying, I don't have access. They're getting indoctrinated through the system where they're now led to believe that there's nothing wrong. So they don't feel that there's anything wrong in what they're doing. We watch that video of Jeffrey or you watch Dylan Mulvaney. They certainly have access, but they don't want to address what's going on. There's something going on there that we can all acknowledge. So it has to be a combination of, you know, we can talk about access,

but also a desire to fix what's going on. And there's going to be increasing number of people who don't want to fix it, because the more these very odd, strange behaviors and multiple genders and drugs for kids gets normalized, the less people are going to seek health, because that's going to be the new normal by which everybody lives. So that's going to be the new normal by which everybody lives.

So that's going to be a deep problem. You mentioned pharma, Pat, just a note, pharma stance to make an enormous amount of money off of all this, the drugs that are given to kids are become lifelong drugs. Remember, pharma owns a lot of media, pharma owns a lot of Hollywood, they run their ads everywhere. So this whole thing is connected to big institutions that have the power to really shape what's going on. Yeah, I just searched this on the data side before we move on.

I put gate income versus just with gate income, the way I put it, like the words I put, just take that and copy paste and put it in. Because again, I wanna, so a recent study has showed that in US full time employed gay men now earn 10% more than their heterosexual counterparts, 20% of gay men and 25% of bisexual men

between ages of 18 or 44 live in now below property levels compared to 15 levels of Heather O. sexual which is interesting seeing the pay gap that's taking place. You know, so one time very interesting what happened to us. We're in California. My wife and I, we decided to get this house. And the first house we get in Northridge in 2009, we ran it. We walk in and it's a gay couple. No problem. One's a lawyer, one works at Disney, one works in real estate, great. And we're walking through the house and have a picture around a Reagan there. And I said, I'm looking at the picture around a Reagan. And one of the guys looks at me says, you think it's weird, don't you? I said, you know, that's what it is to each a zone. I said, but can I ask, why Ronald Reagan?

He said, we're conservative in every possible way. We're just gay. It's the only thing that we're different of, you know. And there's a group in California. What was a group called gay Republican community? There's a name for it. Law Cabin, yeah. And you're seeing more and more of that taken place.

These are successful people that are doing good for themselves. They just happen to, you know, like men that's taken place. So from my experience, again, each one needs to be judged in a different way. Busbeans, gays, you know, needs to be judged in a different way. Lesbians, gays, you know, needs to be judged in a different way. In a community where there's like gay working, you know, doing what they're doing, it's typically a safer neighborhood and it's a cleaner neighborhood from my experience.

And I've seen a lot of different places. But so going back to this, because I do want to stay on this, I know it's very easy. Frank, you can be the gentle one. Let us be a little bit mean here. You be nice. Jet, let's the rest of us take this question,

because I think we still haven't gone to the bottom of this question. When you run a company, and the reason why I'm wired this way, I want to have the same mistake and not repeat again. And when you're doing anything you do the first time, you don't have a lot of issues. So I want to know, who was that on? Who was this on?

Who was this on? I don't want to put it on anybody. If we don't put it on anybody, then we don't know how to address it, right? So I'm going to go back again, but I'm going to ask you from Jed and I'm going to ask him from Tom. You can set this one out, coming if you're ready for it, if you feel like you have some kind of courage for this one, jumping this one.

Jed, is this on activists, is this on parents to momentum that's being created? Is it on big pharma? There's a, what is that, what is that? Lupron. Lupron, you know, I just looked at what the revenues was for 2022, a billion dollars. It's a nice revenue for Lupron that's used

for many different things. But you know, big pharma, parents, politicians, teachers, activists, who's allowing this to happen and who's influencing it? The most. So I think the momentum, the push is coming from pharma, but the responsibility and who's allowing this to happen ultimately rests with parents. It always rests with parents because even, you know, you can have drag shows for kids. You can have all this stuff going on. You don't have to take your kids there. You don't have to succumb.

So it always for me ultimately rests with parents. Do you agree? I think there are opportunities, opportunists up and down the street on this. I think Big Pharma is being very opportunistic. I know a lot about Lupron. I'm not going to name names. You're going to detail, but you know I have some experience with this with people that were very, very close to me about the price for that drug and the incredible counseling they do to talk about potential side effects of that drug. And now it's being thrown around like,

check let's just get some Lupron. It's a puberty blocker. So I think big pharma is absolutely opportunistic. I also think the Democrat party is absolutely opportunistic, because there's some court Democrats that are not informed on this. They see it as a voting block. And it's part of us.

It's part of the, Rubik's, it's part of the, the Tetris that makes up our voting block. So I'm going to do this. And when they don't really dive into it and understand the things you're talking about, about mental health issues and drug use that are affecting it.

And so they're opportunists. And I also think that this sits at the, I think a parent's had been asleep for the past 20 years and not really realizing what was going on in the schools, not understanding what was happening to take a stand about the kinds of things that are gonna be taught to their children. And now you can take a look about the kinds of things that are going to be taught to their children. And now you can take a look at, you know, which way the teachers swing and donate their

money and things politically. I think there's opportunists up and down and each of the opportunists deserve some of the credit. I guess you would say blame Pat for how it's shook out. But I think the spark, the spark has been the activist. Once upon a time, there was a well-intended effort which ended with the Roberts decision. You can marry, right?

50 states. You don't have to wait. This isn't the ERA. It will write some end-meth through the 70s, waiting for those 37 states, 35 states to ratify it, right, Judd? It was suddenly, John Roberts had just said, never mind the states, boom, you can get married. And now you can get married, you have access to spousal healthcare.

I mean, health insurance because if your spouse works, you can say this is my spouse, and now you get access to health insurance. That was a big point, but there's activists that are going far beyond that. And so that's where I put it is everybody down the street I think has a responsibility here Pat. And the activists have been the spark. The activists can't get anywhere without mainstream media endorsement though. So the activists

are pivotal, but they will always be viewed as sitting over here in the corner. Oh, they're extreme until you get that mainstream media endorsements. So once you have the GMAs and once you have the cable news and once you have the farm of funded media on board and the large umbrella saying, this is healthy, this is normal, this is how you take care of your kids. Then those activists who would have been relegated to the corners as extremists are now elevated and that all, that whole umbrella becomes the new normal. I would also add that the increasing number of fatherless homes,

particularly in this country, is adding gasoline to the fire here. Because if someone is going to stand up to this stuff, it's going to be the dads in the home. The dads are going to say, this doesn't sound right to me. They're less likely to buy into woke ideology. Look at how women vote. Look at how men vote. This is just a reality, whether you like it or not. Not having those dads in the home provides. There's a lot of, you know, single moms out there. They're leaning on the system a lot more. They're not as financially independent. They're more farm-dependent. They're more likely to listen to and be malleable when you have schools and indoctrination camps coming their way. Not having

that stable force as a dad in the home is leading to kids that are coming out with a lot more problems, kids that are more easily manipulated by social media, and also a whole structure that collapses under the weight of a massive indoctrination program. So, but this is a strange time to be a kid. It's a little scary, honestly. Yeah, but it is. It's a strange time to be a kid to even understand these guys, but go back to it, Tom. So, what you're saying is you're saying from the left, it's kind of like a voter block. Voting block. Like, they're looking at this is a, like a black vote. They got to win the black

vote. They got to window, black vote. They got a window LGBTQ vote. I just searched to see what percentage of a vote voters in America are identified as LGBT. It's a three and a half percent, will point three percent be in transgender. Okay, so one side saying they're trying to win the vote. So they're gonna get that vote for the next 20, 30, 40 years.

Fine, let's say that's one part of it. Next, you said the big pharma is a part of it. You were going a little bit more into that because I was watching side effects of Lupron and I saw an article, bra, I don't know if I send you this article or not. If I did, if you can pull it up, it's life site's news. I don't know if you have that one.

I thought I sent it to you, life site's news to see what Lupron does. So if you don't mind in your world, what is to the average person that does know what Lupron is? What is Lupron? Yeah, Lupron was used to chemically castrate pedophiles. And now there's a small dose in puberty blockers. And so over time, this is the scariest part with this narrative,

is people say puberty blockers does nothing. I would argue that if. As people say, puberty blockers does nothing. I would argue that if you put a child on puberty blockers at 11 and then they stop at 1920, they're not just going to resume puberty. It's not a puberty delay or it's a puberty blocker. These things are changing the chemicals of your body and cascading you over time. Here's the article. Thousands of deaths linked to drugs used as puberty blockers for gender-confused kids. If you can go a little lower, this is an article from 2019.

It got some criticism. I'll give the backside of this as well. September, 2020, 2019, UK National Health Services NHS is investigating drugs that are used to block normal sexual development among children and teens who are transitioning to the opposite sex that when used in other applications have been linked to 6,000 deaths. The drug is questioned and questioned are used to lower the levels of testosterone and estrogen which are building blocks of sexual development and sexual function. The use of these drugs in other areas of medicine to combat prostate cancer, for instance, has been associated with serial mental conditions,

including cases of nervous systems, psychiatric disorders, heart failure, seizures, joint pain, bone deterioration, and dozens of other adverse events. The FDA listed over 41,000 adverse reactions between 2004 and 2019 associated with lupelite, which includes Lupron and similar drugs used by gender clinics almost 26,000 of these were classified as serious cases which also includes 6,000 That's and I'll read this next part is FDA in the case that amongst three to 17 year olds who had taken the drug for various medical conditions They were reported all almost 1500 verse reactions,

over 700 being serious, and 11 of those resulting in death, of the cases resulting in death, the drug was used to delay puberty, treat growth, disorder, or drug therapy as in hormone suppression therapy among other things, Tom. Yeah, so this drug is a drug that was developed to, and if you look up, there's a condition that affects young girls called percosis puberty.

It's when the pituitary gland is out of sync with the biological age and what the lupron does, and it's given in the thigh like once a quarter with careful monitoring of hormone levels and specifically bone density. Because at puberty, you notice that the joint pain and everything, people are going to have chronic, almost arthritic joint pain because the bone development didn't happen. So generally, it's the bone density, but the bone size, growth plates are completely out of sync. And so you're not just causing a sex change.

What you are doing is you are chemically changing the entire structure of that person's body. And they don't come out the same on the other side. In the case of precocious puberty, you do it once a quarter, they monitor it carefully. The puberty, you think of it, defibrillating a heart that's beating improperly. What kind of defibrillates the, and I know doctors probably listening to you get on the

chat and say, it's a wrong way to look at it. But it does, it sort of resets the pituitary gland to say, hey calm down, this is what we need you to do. And then it was used in adults, adult males when you give them that. It's the chemical castration for serial pedophiles that we don't know what to do with them. So we're going to give them this big time toxic drug and we're going to throw them in prison. And so that's where big farmers, like anything, and by the way, this was eight grand a

shot. That is the market price for Lupron, was eight grand a shot. So parents that had this, that was a $24,000 a year treatment. Lupron is eight grand a shot. Go see if you can find, I saw the revenues, a $752 million in 2020 based on just this drug.

Yeah, I'm sure he could go to like, at drug.com or drug. You know, the online legal pharmacies, you know, you could go, you could go to the loop run price of loop run per shot. Price of loop run per shot. You'll see prices showing with and without health insurance, by the way. There you go. 1729. That may be monthly, multiply that times three and there's your, there's your once a quarter shot. Make sense. Got it. multiply that times three and there's your, there's your once of four jobs.

Got it. Well, 1700 times three, that's 45, 5, 200. Got it. So, so, so to me, when you're looking at, when you're looking at this, okay, so then this leads me to the next conversation. Why, why such a big push for let the kids take it if they want to be for 18 years old, okay, let them do it. What's wrong with that? You should let them do it. If they want to do it and the parent supports it, they want to be for 18 years old. Let them do it. What's wrong with that? You should let them do it. If they want to do it and the parent supports it, let them go through the process of taking

this before 18 years old. Why is there such a big push for that? I would argue that it's the income. Big farmer looks at this as a cash cow. If you listen to a lot of D-transitioners, they are not supported down the journey. A lot of them were guided, especially like someone like Chloe Cole, was guided down a journey to go in transition,

but yet didn't fully understand what she was getting herself into, didn't really have the mental capacity at 15 to say, you know what, I'm gonna have a double mastectomy because I really wanna be a boy. And so when you pair that with big pharma's dirty greed, you have all of these children now that are suffering medical consequences

because they're using data from children that are suffering from medical illness that need these drugs. But now they're trying to give it to healthy, normal functioning children. And now we have all of these things happening to them. So when you look at pharma, it's hard for people to understand. This is a new drug.

Not everybody's going to be familiar with this. It's the same game over and over again. So you have to look at it in terms of something that's very relatable. For example, birth control pills. Big pharma encourages doctors and suppliers to consistently give out birth control pills to young women at a very young age. You have some young women at a very young age. You have some young women walking into doctors' offices for acne, for a regular cycle.

They're not asked about their diet. You don't look at their stress level. You don't look at any other components that could be causing that. And they hand these birth control pills over to young kids who then young girls sometimes are taking these pills from the age of 13 years old, straight through 25 years old. You're now seeing a ton of studies by the way that show that these women have bone density issues at a very young age. They're going in for scans at the age of 40 and they're having bone density issues because at an age when they were supposed

to be at their maximum capacity to build bone, they were impeded from doing that because they were taking birth control pills. So you see the farmer recipe is, oh, let's just disseminate drugs, not investigate what could actually be going on lifestyle-wise and otherwise to fix this problem. So now you bring in these other drugs, it's the same thing. You create a drug-dependent person. Women when you talk about birth control are very hesitant to get off because then they're dependent, they don't want to mess up their bodies. They're like, oh, I'm in this routine.

There's a lot of panic that goes into what are the side effects of coming off. You're going to have the same thing with this drug, whether it's Lupron or whatever, is coming down the pike next from Pharma. They want people consistently dependent on these drugs, afraid to get off of them, and it's a permanent, I think you've said it, Tom. It's a cash cow. It's a lifetime cash cow in a lot of cases. And then people who do detransition and go off of them will talk to you about it's not so easy to do that as any person who's taken any

drug. Any farmer drug will tell you, you can take something as simple as a proton pump inhibitor for your stomach for acid reflux. There's a weaning process that goes into that. This is not easy stuff. Farma knows it, and the more people they have reliant and dependent on these drugs from a young age, the more money they make. It's very simple.

And by the way, I'll be big pharma, right? Well, my spreadsheet says that if you're on birth control pills right up to the point of pre-menopausal, you know what, that just means I get you on the osteoporosis medication early. Right. And now, but wait, wait, wait, your joints hurt? You have issues?

No problem. I have a cocktail of osteoporosis medications. I've got stuff for your hot flashes. I've got stuff to deal with the pain in your joints and then and and and. Because if you take a look at it, you could look at each human being as a lifetime customer of pharma.

You can look at it exactly along those lines. I think I didn't bring up media when I had my angry summary 10 minutes ago, because you worked in media and you saw farmers influence on media because of the amount of spend that they have. We are, what's the other country besides us that's allowed to have? New Zealand's, there's only two countries out there that are allowed to advertise like this. And you lived in this.

So I didn't bring up media because I've studied pharma and I've studied a lot of other things, but I haven't lived in and studied me. So let's go with this. Next thing about puberty blockers and what it does so question becomes a following so Alcohol what ages legal age to drink alcohol? 21 okay, what age do I need to be to smoke cigarettes? 21 and California, okay, how about if I want to buy a gun?

I think 18. Yeah 18 okay, what if my dad, if I'm, let's just have 13 years old, okay, and I go to a bar and my dad says, okay, give me shot at tequila. Can we do that? No. Well, my dad said it's okay. Right. And 50 states your dad, but wait a minute. If I go, if my dad knows what's best for me, and I go to a bar and I say, Dad, I want to do a double shot of tequila because it's been a long fricking day in school, bro. It's been tough. Honestly, I need a double shot of tequila, right? And my dad looks at the bartender, Mary, it's okay. Give me double shot of tequila,

but he's only 13. I'm over 21. I'm 34, it's okay, go ahead and give it to him. Mary's gonna say, hey buddy, I'm not gonna lose my license. Do you realize how stupid that sounds? Like what I just said right now, stupid it sounds. Now here's the argument, Duane Wade is a hero. He's a hero. He wants to allow his younger kid to transition, and if the father approves, you should let them do that.

That's a good father in today's age. In today's age, the international women's day, Jill Biden recognizes a trans male who is now a woman as the woman of the year. Do you realize the level of hypocrisy in these arguments? So, if a 35-year-old father cannot go to a bar with his 13-year-old son and have a double shot of tequila because he's given the permission, what makes you give that argument to say, how is this argument creating momentum? I guess is what the question is. How? Yeah, so a lot of the studies that justify gender-affirming care for children are done through surveying

these children that were indoctrinated. So you'll get a child starting puberty, and in two years, they'll ask that indoctrinated child if you feel like you're going to commit suicide, if you feel better. And if you tell that child for years and years and years that you're a boy in a girl's body, and now they're starting to become a girl, you just manipulated that child into being okay with what is happening with them.

And so that's why this journey of just affirming is highly, highly dangerous because you're not giving the child the opportunity to grow up and make that devastating or hard decision for their life at an age where they can fully understand. grow up and make that devastating or hard decision for their life at an age where they can fully understand.