PBD Podcast - God, Guns, and Video Games | PBD Podcast | EP 84

Episode Date: September 1, 2021

During episode 84 of the PBD Podcast, Patrick Bet-David sits down with Adam Sosnick, Gerard Michaels, and Phil Heath to talk about topics such as China limiting online videogame usage, the current situation in Afghanistan, and much more! Watch the full podcast: https://youtu.be/FpSjp62PqIE --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

All right, we are officially live episode number 84 would fill heat, Adam and Gerard. So it's been, it's been a minute, no? It hasn't been a minute. It's been a minute. By the way, you guys look very friendly right now. Just a minute ago off camera, you and Gerard were about to fight. Yeah, well, it started with Phil. Who was instigating?

That's the question. Oh, come on. Come on. Who was always me somehow. I can somehow don't see that. Well, I just said, I don't see that. I'm pressing the buttons, right? I just said, good morning, morning Philip and he looked at me like

Who though you think you are? Well address me by my real name Phil and then Gerard Pyle Don we waited for you By the way, I think it's fair to say from the last time we did podcasts till today a lot's changed a lot of crazy things David can we raise my audio a little bit more if you don't mind I know you guys want to lower it we raise my audio a little bit more if you don't mind I know you guys want to lower it but raise it a little bit more Vanessa and David are not in a mood today everybody's out. It's just them. They're lonely. There you go much better We got a lot of crazy things that happen last week. Yeah, okay a lot a lot of things that happen last week Last night where at the where my office you can come down last night where my office were preparing for the podcast

Thank you Caroline last night where We're at the office and We started talking about guns we started talking about God Gerard's favorite topic. We started talking about religion We started talking about history. We started talking about Gerard's it thinks kind of feel a little out of whack and I'd let to a great conversation Where we were all holding back because we wanted the podcast to be honest. Even though we kept saying, we kept saying, let's keep it for tomorrow.

20 minutes. Let's keep it for tomorrow. So we can talk about it today. Anyway, so we've got a lot of topics. Let me go through a few of them that we have here today. One of them is, is faith at its highest or lowest in America today, including the world. And is the world a better place

when a country is ran based on a religion or not? You can debate that. Will debate that today. Have a good conversation about it. Is gun, is that a good invention? Who did it help the most? We'll talk about that. Adam's very excited about that one.

Elon Musk says universal basic income, we need universal basic income because in a future physical work will be a choice You know this whole robots. He's building. He's got some interesting things to say about that Chinese authorities say over time 996 policy is illegal Tom Brady this a vows Today's work ethic saying it's not how to live a joyful life says seven-time Super Bowl champion in his mid 40s. Joe Rogan confined to Spotify is losing

influence. It's an interesting article with some data. Their celebrities disappear from internet as China moves against fan culture. China limits online video games to three hours a week for young people. Biden admits administration, his administration may have given the Taliban kill list of Afghans who waited US, staggering cost US military equipment left behind in Afghanistan. Special veterans carry out secret pineapple express mission to rescue 500 Afghans and Australia created a police state to stop COVID-19. Data shows us now working.

Folks, if you're from Australia, let us know if you're from Australia right now, like you're living in Australia right now, comment, we'd like to get a caller in from Australia. I know you got somebody as well. you get a hold of them maybe we can do something with it let's start off with the equipment card you might pull it up what equipment is left behind in afghanistan with the Taliban what is left behind so is this the article or is there one that shows all the different you know what you're not talking about the image okay let's take a look Okay, let's take a look at this. Let's take a look at this.

So what are we looking at here? Vehicles and airplanes. Is this, so we got 42,604, Ford Ranger pickup cargo trucks are left behind. 22,000 humvees, ambulance, cargo, troop, enclosure, gun truck variants left behind 8998 medium tactical vehicles. I was a mechanic for those vehicles, but we call them LM TVs or FM TVs 5-ton cargo and general transport truck

2005 recovery vehicles. I was licensed to do that and operate those They're great to drive by the way. You can run over trees it's six so a thousand five of those left behind nine hundred and twenty eight m.r.a.p. max pro ambulance combat left behind hundred eighty nine armored personal carriers left behind in other words tanks keep going down that seventy six thousand right there by the way here's a pricing armored personal carriers such as the m one one three eight two costs a each. The M5782 costs $333,000 each. Mine resistant vehicles range four 12 to 767 each. Total cost would range around 382,000,000 to $711,000.00. Keep going over to the next category on what we got.

Okay, here's the helicopters, 111 helicopters, 60 transport cargo airplanes. We got 20 light attack airplanes, 18 intelligence reconnaissance and surveillance airplanes. Go a little lower. That's 208 there was the price on those by the way. Let's look at some of the prices there. $427 million of the black car helicopters, each cost $21 million. Okay, each.

Keep going lower. I mean, the Taliban, one right here, if you look at what they got, keep going lower to the next part. Is there any other equipment? Okay, here we go. Rifles. Three. Oh my goodness.

358,530 M16s, M4 carbine, AK-47s, and sniper rifles. That's 358,000. There's only 75,000 Taliban by the way. 358,000, 126,000 pistols, M9s and G19s. You got 64,363 machine guns, 25,327 grenade launchers 12,692 shotguns 9877 rocket propelled weapons 2,606 indirect fire weapons that's 599,000 weapons Okay, go a little lower guy. What's the total number? I saw 85 billion dollars. Oh, we got more stuff here 16,000 nine vision goggles 120 radio monitoring systems 22 ground sixteen thousand nine vision goggles to a hundred twenty radio monitoring systems twenty two-ground anyway so that's another sixteen thousand equipment

keep going lower and lower and lower is there anything left at the bottom anything left that we have at the bottom the total number was what eighty five billion dollars give or take eighty five billion dollars of equipment the talisman got what do you think about that your art well when you leave behind a billion dollars in military greatgrade assets, civilians and allies, I think it's pretty bold and audacious to consider it leaving Afghanistan.

That, to me, sounds like a retreat. That sounds like submission. That sounds like we retreated from Afghanistan. We left people, but we left our people and our property behind. That doesn't also mention, it needs to be shouted out, the dogs that we left our people and our property behind that doesn't also mention needs to be shouted out the dogs that we left behind that are being cared for by a civilian who stayed behind an American civilian who is behind enemy lines right now and an Afghan ally and they're both volunteering So once again the private sector picks up where government drops the ball, but This just gets uglier and uglier and uglier by the day. And as it came out, you know,

you did a great interview last week about how they're trying to paint this as first they tried to paint it as we were completely taken by surprise by this. Then General Miley came out earlier last week and said, well, this was inevitable. We knew it was going to happen. And he lead by taking the troops first, they don't take their equipment, okay? And this, and not to sidebar too far, but this ISIS-K stuff, it drives me out of my mind. This used to just be the Mujahideen,

and we supported the Mujahideen when they were anti-Russia and anti-China. Then it became Al-Qaeda in the Taliban, and we had to go in and get them because of Al-Qaeda, but then we became allies with Al-Qaeda in Syria because they were anti Assad. So we couldn't call them Al-Qaeda anymore. They were rebranded as ISIS. We rebranded them.

And now it's ISIS-K. So we have both been allies and enemies with the same group for 20 years. And what have we gotten for it? What have the American citizens gotten for it? Nothing. We got nothing out of this. All right, we got pain and suffering for people who were willing to risk their lives.

And now all I heard, and this is something Republicans messed up 20 years ago. All we heard was we got to protect our freedoms. We got to protect our freedoms. I have still yet to have somebody explain to me well how we needed to protect our freedoms 6,000 miles from our shores. I don't understand what we were doing there in the first place and but since we were there I don't understand how we could leave like this. I mean Sam Harris to his credit. All right one of the foremost

liberal thinkers in the world tweeted out I am he retweeted himself he tweeted on January 20th after the election I am overwhelmed with joy to have adults back in the room and he to his meaning elaborate meaning Biden Biden but the Biden Harris Troika all right and to his credit he retweets himself publicly eating these words, syllable by syllable. And that's where we're at right now. So kudos to you Sam Harris, kudos to Bill Marr, kudos to the other liberals who refuse to go down

with this sinking ship. But as a country, and this is something, you know, the more conservative listeners are not gonna like, I look at Nikki Haley, I look at Donald Trump Jr., who I find hilarious. And they're piling on to make sure that you know that this is Biden's fault this is Biden dude we know I need solutions thank you how are we getting people out of there what are

we doing now that we just gave a billion dollars to people who want to do us harm we know who to point the finger at all right but when you point a finger at somebody else there's three point back at you right Phil you one point point that way three point in this way Somebody anybody in our political geospiria, but here's a question for you. Okay. Put solutions out there. Please fine So what does he do? What does junior do? Well, he's in sales right now. He's selling he's selling that Biden's incapable But no, no, no, what I'm trying to tell you is okay So imagine the average voter right now

that's listening to this. Yep. They're pissed off. Who isn't pissed off today? CNN's pissed off because Alissa Milano's not pissed off. Well, Alissa Milano's not pissed off, but who is Alissa Milano in the first place? She's a cousin Vinnie's isn't that's the one?

That's the one. That's the one that's pissed off. Okay, that tells you how much I know about Alissa Milano. She's one of the, okay. I mean, I know her face if I see her. Fernando. But here's the point. OK, take a listen, Alano out.

Everybody else, who isn't pissed off today? CNN is pissed off because he, Biden, is making them look like idiots. MSNBC is pissed off because what? They were his campaigns. Like, OK, we want this Trump guy out. Fox is pissed off because they're seeing what's going on because they're promuletary. Everybody's pissed off. Who isn't pissed off because you know they're seeing what's going on because they're promulitary

Everybody's pissed off who isn't pissed off, but the average person that's listening to this What can they do about it? What can the average guy do about it? What can junior do about it? What can what can they do about it? What can all these guys do about it? So the only people that can really do anything about it is who? The people in charge the people in charge so no matter how much you put it on anybody else I'm sorry. It's like dude. I'm not in charge. The people in charge. So no matter how much you put it on anybody else, I'm sorry, it's like, dude, I'm not in charge. What are you able to do? You can scream off the top of your lungs.

You can do all the things that you want to do. But what can you do? This takes me into what Pineapple Express did. That's the part where you brought up and said, Pat, this entire time people are thinking we have to rely on somebody to do something. This is a group of civilians that are like, listen, dude, we don't care.

We're not waiting on you. We're're gonna go out there and do this right you want to unpack what happened with those guys so the listeners can kind of yeah so for people that don't know there's a bunch of ex-veterans there uh they're no longer active duty or the ones that are active duty refuse to identify themselves obviously because they pretty much broke international treaties and they they commit in an act of war by invading a sovereign country. But really these are guys that were on, that did multiple tours in Afghanistan.

These are special forces guys that got sick and tired of waiting for the government to get their allies and people who helped them, people who helped say their lives, translators particularly in their families out of harm's way. So they just went in, they said, screw it, we're not waiting for clearance.

I mean, this is like a 1980s like, like Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. This is like predator. This is like hardcore old school America is the best movie stuff here. But these are real guys who went in and they saved between 500 and 1,000 people. They got them across the borders out of Afghanistan.

And they, and we'll never know who they are because obviously they're technically war criminals now but these guys are heroes we know how some of them are because they talked about it couple of them came out and flat out they talked about it and ten candy apparently was very uh... very very uh... big and organizing it and and uh... is a stock of the guys a fricking stud you know tim at social java pin opinions on that? Or did there's a lot going on? I think, um, look, anyone as an American or even as a citizen of

the world should just look at this and just be like, this is a complete shit show. But what did we expect? It's almost like we don't learn any lessons, look back in history. What the hell happened in Vietnam? America, you can get into a war very easily, but I think we realize it's very hard to get out of a war It's very ugly to get out of a war I think something that we need to recognize is what's the lesson here? We can be anti-terrorist badass mother suckers and get in and take care of business, but we cannot Build nations. We're not nation builders. We can't go into goddamn middle of the Middle East and think they're gonna come to around to our way of thinking. It didn't happen in Iraq. It's definitely never happened in Iran. It's not happening in Afghanistan.

Let's learn our lesson. So the next time that something happens here, God forbid a 9-11 happens. We don't rush to judgment 30 days later and declare war in Afghanistan when like you said before we're fighting at the al-Qaeda but al-Qaeda was our friends in a different war and now we're fighting the Taliban but now we're making peace with the Taliban because they're fighting ISIS-K who's like basically the Delta variant of ISIS and it's like we can't figure this out and we never will. I think we don't understand that way of the world. It's the government that like it's from the inside I mean, obviously you have what was his name? Sheller, he goes online and he starts speaking out

and this guy's getting hit pretty hard internally. So obviously it starts from the inside. Like when Pat, you're like, you talk about like, we can't really do anything about this. This starts inside. We don't know if there's coups involved in our own freaking government. All the different branches have.

We say inside inside America America, or inside. Absolutely. You're telling me that they don't have like, there's drama within our own government. Clearly, if our own military, clearly, there's different special interests. Because how in the hell does this take place? Yeah.

Well, the whole situation within our government. Let me ask you this. So you just made a point about, hey, we can never solve this. And this is, Prams always gonna be here It's always been there. It's not all the stuff that you said. Okay fine. Yes But that's not that's not the challenge right now that we didn't get here because Nobody agreed on leaving the left and the right and the middle everybody said we got to leave that there isn't anybody that's Disagreen on stain except for the

Five to ten percent of the veterans who are actually there who saw what happened who have emotional affinity to the people there that want to see their lives Chained and they feel like maybe we're a generation away Except from the true believers 80 to 90% of America all agrees on let's bring the troops back. I agree But here's a question for you. Here's a question for you. Okay, so What is the right way you're at a club? Okay? There's a shooting, you're at a club, there's a shooting. You hear a shot, goes out. What's the right way to leave the club? What do you look for when you leave the club?

Nearer's exit. The nearer's exit and you leave, okay? Let me ask you a question. Do you look for your friends or do you look, I'm just gonna run, they're gonna find a run or a way to run as well. I'd like to think I grab my friends who are around me. Okay, now let me ask you a question here.

But if you're with your buddies and they're all athletes, you're probably like, dude, you're gonna find a way out, dude, let's go, guys, fellas. Let's get the hell out of you. In the spur of the moment, are you thinking, where's Jim, where's Bob? Where's Sally? No, let me flip it on you.

Let me flip it on you. Let me flip it on you. Let me flip it on you. You're out of my with your two kids. There's a fire, you hear a shot. What's the first thing you're thinking about? Grab your kids. Grab your kids and then you leave, right?

Okay, great. You're in your house, there's a fire. You got two cats, you got a dog, and you got two kids, okay? Fire breaks out, one of the, propane blows up and fires everywhere. What are you doing before you leave the house? Trying to stop the fire. Trying to stop the fire,

but you're trying to get everybody out first, right right is it fair to say that common sense is what we got to get the hell out Right there is no common sense that says don't get out so the problem isn't we got to get out the problem is How we get out so you have to prioritize on how you get out by the way? Here's a question for you if you see if you're sitting in a room You know shits about to go down. What's the best thing you gotta do? If you know, the enemy right there is about to do something crazy.

What's the best way for you to react? If you know, let's just say I text you, I'm like, hey, shit's about to go down. Adam, Phil, Gerard, and a text. Guys, we have five minutes to get out of here. Leave him for. I'm leaving him. You grab your fucking weapons. No, make sure you have them. Gerard in a text guys we have five minutes to get out of here leaving for No, you grab your fucking weapons. No, make sure you have them But but the way you're gonna leave you gonna be like guys. Let's not overreact just like just slow just like okay To the way we're gonna do it is you're gonna say I'm gonna go to the bathroom and then Gerard's gonna be like you know

What I got to call me call my girl. Yeah, and I graduated. I'm like slowly Go on you're not okay Like that's how we left because we left like that so the whole point isn't let's leave We know we need to leave the damn right now. We need to leave the damn mall how we left so okay, so now Leaving Afghanistan for dummies. Okay, let's read that book leaving Afghanistan for dummies. Okay, let's let's let's Somebody should publish that book Step number one you got 85 billion out of civil equipment. Yeah Okay

Civilians got to go first. So first what we need to equipment civilians got to go first There you go. Those translators those interpret as well. Yeah, go. Yeah, gotta go first then what goes next? In my opinion the troops go last I agree with you Okay, but I don't know why we put out the troops and then we're like, oh, by the way, but we forgot 100,000 civilians and all our shit. So, so it's ass backwards. But think about how much of this is just pure common flipping

sample. Because it's reaction versus response. When you react, you do what they freaking did. When you respond, that means that you're more calculated, period, and they did not have, I don't know where kids, that you have a fire drill. Like you have certain protocols, systems,

all that other crap. Where was theirs? Where was that list? Here's the other part. Here's the other part, if you think about this. Okay. There's a part that I don't agree with the president saying what we're about to do next, too early.

Here's what I think. I think it's like, listen guys, I don't know, probably in the next two to four years, we're gonna try to leave Afghanistan. There you go. But you leave in six months, but nobody needs to know that. You don't as a president,

sit up there and get your card. Hey guys, we're leaving in the next week. Oh shit, they're about to leave in the next week. Like look, we're gonna try to go into the next two to four years, we'll see what's gonna happen. Okay, and we'll see what's gonna take place. But we are working on it, we have a plan. We'll see what all happened.

Then you know you're about to leave in the next 30 days. There's a part of this that strategically, but it just validates whoever's that's in the commander of chief position, president position, they have to be strategic, they have to understand the art of war, they have to understand power, and then the subtle maneuvering. You don't just go and say, hey, I don't know, I'm just talking to the comments.

You said it a while ago on the podcast, I believe, last time I was here, that the commander achieved needs to have some experience serving in the military because of what you just said. I mean, if he had some level of experience of expertise, he would actually have to know the art of war, all these things that you described. Or you know how we do it. Let's just say you don't. Okay, let's, because we're going to go in an era where a guy's going to be a president

like a Trump Biden Bush. Let's just say these guys. Here's how it works. You're the final vote, but you got a board of six, seven. You're one of the votes, but you're the executive chairman. When it comes, if you've never served in the military, you're going to put generals there. Marines Air Force Army, everybody. You put your national security. You put your national security counts. You put your national security counts. Right, right.

And right there, the vote is four. If four in that room say, boom, go. But it's not one. Biden doesn't get a chance to vote. Neither Trump, neither any of these guys. Yeah. You sit there and say, boom, let's get out. A few things that really come to mind from this thing

is the way Biden handled it really makes me feel like he's not running the show. He's a puppet. I things that really come to mind from this thing is the way Biden's handled it really makes me feel like he's not running the show. He's a puppet. I'm not supposed to answer questions. I'm not supposed, you're the president. Who's telling you what to do? If anything, you should be standing up with your chest out and saying, like, who is tensioned?

But it's very obvious. And I'm not trying to knock Biden on this. Now I'm like legitimately concerned. Who's calling the shots here, man? That's number one. Number two, all right, is? That's number one. Absolutely. Number two, all right, is I think it's beyond obvious now. You said it before, what are we learning from this?

Why, why, we can't nation build. Adam, I don't think they ever intended to. I think that they were there to suck millions and millions of dollars and keep these incredibly high paying jobs. Why do they not care? About eight billion dollars worth of Ordinance being left behind because it wasn't their money. They don't care. It didn't come out of their pocket

That stuff was already bought and paid for and in fact the defense contractors are like let them have it We got to buy new stuff. Yeah, absolutely. They don't want to win these wars They just want to keep them going for as long as possible. This thing made them. I don't disagree. So much money. And the Patriot Act, right? We have the Patriot Act. We have TSA. Now they said they're trying to spin it. They're trying to spin this that we don't need to be there anymore because we hit the objective. It was, Osama bin Laden was the objective. Okay. Well, then the Patriot Act was there because they've been a lot of an al-Qaeda. And now you're telling us the Taliban have learned their lesson. So why do we still have to go through TSA? Why are we still doing

all that BS? Is that just again? And now what does that mean to me with everything we're doing today? That was the quote unquote new normal. And that was supposed to go away. But now the Patriot Act is never going away. We live in a surveillance state. It's like taxes. It's never going away. So learn from learn What do you to your point Adam? What can we learn from this be very careful? Which freedoms you give away in in terms of why I just want to feel safe because we're learning right now You know when the crisis is over. Yeah, you're not getting them back. It's not happening Let me add to your point you you've talked talk use this term the military industrial complex. Yep. It's a real thing

This is the Sending what's going on here? So something that Pat always says here that we learned anyone who starts with value-tamins says Treat the company's money like it's your own. Do you not say that Pat? Treat the company's money. So if you're gonna go out and get a hotel you're gonna get a car rental You're gonna get equipment you're gonna get whatever you're gonna treat it like it's your. So if you're gonna go out and get a hotel, you're gonna get a car rental, you're gonna get equipment, you're gonna get whatever, you're gonna treat it like it's your own and you're not gonna waste a spending, save that money. And it's just disgusting to see how much waste

and fraught is going on there within government spending. It's disgusting. So let's circle back to the original question. What were they supposed to do with this equipment? If they weren't, they're not, how they getting tanks back, how are they getting bombers back? This seat, I've never been in the military, but it seems obvious, rather than letting them have it,

don't you just blow that shit up? Why wouldn't you? Explain to me why you wouldn't just, and you know they crazy. Of course we need an enemy to go back in and create another 10 years more. Exactly, scary. And what you said is what Trump said.

What's that? I don't know if you're what Trump said. He said, here's a plan. First, you get the civilians out. Yes. Then you get the interpreters out. Let's just say the allies. Then you get some of the equipment out. Then you blow every unit up.

You blow it up because if there's anything, you blow every base up that we have, then we get the troops that come back up. That was as formula on how to do it so you were just aligned with trump i'm i'm not even making this a a president i'm aligned with trump i'm aligned a bite and think like you said but i'm not sure but but but what will be my point well no wait a minute you're

aligned with common sense sure great awesome that's a first for me right bingo no it's not a first for you if if americans actually looked at this bullshit there you go not from the standpoint of who's either rather from common sense we many people would be on the same side I agree but my point is this forget about Trump forget about Biden forget about Bush forget about bomb because they're all guilty and they're all we're involved in this war I mean starting from Bush Obama it's been the generals

you're the ones calling the shots yeah you're the ones in there war, I mean, starting from Bush Obama, it's been the generals. You're the ones calling the shots. You're the ones in there saying, look, I've been in war, I've been in Afghanistan for 20 years. Here's what we need to do. Who's the loudmouth general out there talking right now? It's so easy to blame Biden or so easy to blame Trump and Trump did the deal and Biden just went through with the so easy. Why aren't the generals starting? It's hard for them because they all they went all in on the establishment to get rid of Trump So it's hard. It's very hard for a guy like Mattis who I'm a big fan of it's very hard for him right now to be like I'd back the wrong horse

You know, it's very very difficult What is this like who cares? They you're talking about America agree with you Yeah, but this is also but this is also when, who cares stuff, again, like this is, you know, because it's in this moment, you've been so vilified in this divisive political environment, like this is what I'm saying. What I talk about, I don't want taxes, taxes are theft, and people are like, I don't mind paying my fair share

if it means that a kid can read and new education is better and there's no child. Is that how they walk? Yeah, with their, with their, with their Warby Parker's. Mer, mer, mer, mer, I like people. I'm a little bit worse than that. Is it easy? No, it's not.

No, it's not. This is what your tax money goes to. Your tax money doesn't, your tax money doesn't go to kids getting books in schools. Your tax money goes to this. So until these people tell you and show you that they can use the hours of your life, we've discussed this. Taxes aren't just money.

Money represents the hours of your life. That is 8 billion hours of American lives left behind for the enemy to play around with and hang people from Apache freaking helicopters. That's subsidized by you and me guys. That right there. High five guys We didn't we sponsored that and we're not gonna talk about this like my question is how long are we gonna Continually talk about this to drive that point home to the general public because there's a lot of people in this world

That don't pay attention to politics in this way They don't pay attention to military in this way this type of news needs to be continuously over and over and there, there's a lesson to be learned in this and we're all discussing it right here. But until that becomes like the norm, we're gonna do this shit again. The other lesson we learned, I know we're gonna talk about this. We avoid. I know we're gonna talk about this, but the other lesson we learned is every time they tell you that you can't take on the government, but for all these second amendment guys, we got f-16s yeah yeah right they got everything

I'm laughing in farcey I laugh in North Vietnam yeah you're telling me that I'll give up my guns because why because well Eric Swalwell you don't have nukes yeah what a Taliban have don't ever ever you know you know you know they said the Taliban officially moved up 161 spots in the strongest military in the world. A hundred and six. From our stuff? From our stuff.

161 spots in the strongest military in the world. So that means they're like in the top 50 right now. Can I think about that? The Taliban. The Taliban's military after what they just took is in the top 50 militaries in the world right now. What is their ties, and I'm just going off here, like what are their ties with the Communist Party

at China? Do they have any ties with them? Well, they have ties with Pakistan and then Pakistan has ties with China. I'm just thinking in regards to like technology and stuff like that that we use. It's a good thought because this is all a proxy. Because yeah, because I'm thinking well like, okay,

like who's responsible for this? Who's responsible for everybody's got to be responsible for something. Last night you and I had a conversation together, right? We had a little bit of a hiccup and we're talking to each other and you're like, yeah, you know what? How my hair got too high by the way, that's a funny story behind that.

I like the hair. So we're talking and we're saying, hey, so, the point is, who gets the responsibility on the set? Who gets the responsibility on this? Are you looking for a figurehead or a... Well, you listen, I mean, you know, everything rises and falls on leadership. Who's responsible for this?

If you want to go the easy clear answer, Biden, and he's, he even went out and said, look, this is on me. He said this. What should be the reper repercussions who well the voters will determine that well but we can't wait that long but what I'm asking you is what I'm not getting impeached it's not like none of that okay it's not happening so let me ask you question let's just say we go there because you know Republicans are like let's impeach the guy okay fine but let's just but what you're saying yeah but the liberals wanted impeach Trump twice

and they celebrate. The first time in history, a president got impeached to white and it's on their resume, right? Okay. And then they're saying, let's resign him. And then they're saying, court martial, right? How should he be held accountable to this? I'm actually curious, right?

Like Nixon resigned over what? Nixon Watergate. Watergate, which was what? Today, Watergate is like a step number three. It's like, Watergate is nothing today, done by both sides. Watergate is very obama literally didn't got nothing at all. No question about it. So did Hillary. It's a very simple model.

But how should he be held accountable? Not just voting, how should he be held accountable today? Because in a corporate world, in a corporate world, if I run a corporation, and I accidentally cost a corporation $85 billion, you know what happens to guy like me? I mean, the board is going to sit down and say, Steve Jobs, we kind of love you, but dude, you are fired and we're going to bring in a scholarly and we're going to bring you back seven years later if you earned a right, but what should happen to this guy today?

Why should free enterprise have more pressure of their job being fired in the moment, but government employees that can just sit there and say, dude, I'm going to fire me. What should happen today? Well, that's the problem. That is the very essence of the issue with authoritarian regimes, communism, socialism, however you want to call it. There is no accountability in government.

We talked about it before. It's not your money. It's somebody else's money. And if you blow it, you know, on a micro scale, we talked about it before, it's not your money, it's somebody else's money, and if you blow it, you know, on a micro scale, we talked about Bill de Blasio's wife. Bill de Blasio's wife made a billion dollars, a billion dollars of taxpayer money disappear.

There wasn't an investigation, there wasn't criminal charges, she got promoted, she is now handling the dissemination of the funds. So what should be done? What are you doing? What are you doing? Well, by the way, there's two people that look very good right now There's two people that look very good right now one of them you know

The other one is Jimmy Carter. Okay. How how does Jimmy Carter look good right now? Yes, who did better him or a Biteness making Carter look good Biden is making Carter Carter sitting there saying at least I'll be able to say I'm not the worst of all George Bush and Dick Cheney are skating by on this and I they look Biden's bad, but Bush and Cheney need to need to have the the spotlight shine on him Cheney especially because he's back this time around in this camp You know Donald's Rumsfeld your boy. Hey Hate him. Horrible, horrible, horrible human being and embarrassment to me. Rumsfeld?

No, no, vice was great. Oh, I didn't say it. You did not see vice. I didn't see it. You're a kid of me. Nah. Why? Why?

Like I mean, Hollywood doesn't like a revolving. The stitches were. I think to answer your question, genuinely, I think it's little too early. Folks, listen folks, everybody goes and Adam's going to give us a little too early to just start dishing out blame. Yes, this is going not according to plan.

Correct. Okay, cool. I don't think anybody likes to see what's going on here. But let's see what the long-term ramifications of this. The bottom line is this, Americans overwhelmingly did not want to be in Afghanistan. Let's not just like gloss over that. For years and years.

We want to address that. Okay, but for years and years, we paid zero attention to this. For years and years, We need to address that. Okay, but for years and years, we paid zero attention to this. For years and years, our military, our government was lying, basically saying, everything's fine. Don't worry about Afghanistan, we got it all under control. Turns out they were lying the entire time. Turns out we could not control 75,000 Taliban fighters.

Turns out 75,000 people fighting for their homeland, fighting for infidels is a lot more powerful than any amount of army that's getting paid to play well you don't have to win you just have to stalemate it's how we took the British to get this country but stalemate for how long 20 years for every year's a hundred years just how long has it got? I think the bottom line is I think we have way too many internal issues in America to be worried about Afghanistan it sucks what's going on short term right now but with everything that's going issues in America to be worried about Afghanistan. It sucks what's going on in short term right now, but with everything that's going on in America, you named the list of issues, debt, obviously our tax system, healthcare, homelessness, the list goes on and on and on.

Now we're worried about the Afghani people, with all due respect, we've got enough pictures at home. No, no, no, no, no, This has got nothing to do with Afghani people. What does this have to do with Afghani people? What part of this issue is Afghani people? What part of this is Afghani people? You're saying, you're saying, let's forget, we have so many issues here, let's forget about that.

You know, the people in Afghanistan, but let's address our issues. Nobody disagrees. But is this an Afghani people issue? No, this is an American government spending and focus issue. This is a strategic issue. OK, if you hire a C-suite executive, you hire a C-suite executive because you're expecting

this person to be competent in what areas. In whatever there's specific expertise. Specialism, right? Okay, if I'm a CMO, my job is to do a do a great job and what? Just like you're a general in the army. I expect to be competent at leading an army. Exactly. What level of competency did you see in this move that took place two weeks ago? That's the question that we all have. Is who's the one actually? What I'm saying to you is you're saying, we already have so many problems. This could have been prevented if the level of competency

was done in a different way. This is not an issue that we disagree with. This is an issue of competency. This is an issue of common sense. This is an issue of basic strategy for a person that in 113 billion people have been born from day one till today. You see that statistic of how many people have lived. There's only been 46 positions for U.S. presidents. He's one of them. Don't you think there needs to

be a little bit more competency when it comes down to issues like this? That's the only thing I'm questioning. We talked last night, crazy. I asked Gerard last night, if you're comfortable answering this, you can say it on camera, I asked Gerard, would you rather have Hillary Clinton as a president or Joe Biden, would you say? Hillary Clinton.

How long did it take for his answer? What did you say? Hillary. Now here's a question, would you rather have Trump as president today or Biden? On this particular issue or every issue in America? Just take overall competency decision-making process. Would you rather have Biden or would you have Trump?

On this particular issue, obviously Biden is failing. There's other things that I think Biden is doing better than Trump. I don't think it's a binary option. But I think it is, though, because I think it's competency. Like I honestly think as much as there is nowhere that I'm gonna, one day have a Hillary Clinton autograph on my office, I don't seek for that. But I honestly, maybe a bill,

maybe a Bill Clinton autograph. But I don't mind a bill. But I will tell you, you literally have that. But I will tell you, I've never, I know you, yeah, you showed it. I don't, this is not, guys, this has got nothing, this has got to do to me, who's a bigger badass? Hillary or Biden?

Hillary. Not Biden. Biden wasn't elected to be a badass. That's not the problem. That's the problem, that's the problem, dude. This is a competency issue and a leadership issue. Folks, if you're watching this right now, if you're watching this right now, you have two choices.

You have Trump, I'm sorry, you have Biden or Hillary. Who do you pick? And by the way, this is like an interesting crowd, right? Who do you pick? You have a Biden or Trump issue. Who do you pick? This is a leadership issue. This is not about who won or who didn't win.

Of the world hated Trump because Trump was pushing everyone's buttons. He was the obnoxious guy that's going out and calling you out. Hey, you got a big belly. Hell, your nose is big. Hey, you got a big pimple on your forehead. That's Trump.

Is that fair to say that's his style? He's going to go and call everybody out and just get under everyone's skin. Well, you also turn the free money spigot off, which is why they really got really good. And then he put all the sanctions on everybody. He decided, like he said, you know what? I'm going to go from a person everybody wants to be like me, a kid grows up, wants to be like Donald Trump,

rappers want to be like Donald Trump, I'm going to go to be the most hated person in the world about pushing everyone's buttons. He just woke up on this and I'm going to put your button, China, Mexico, Canada, everybody. And he had to formula that, but when it comes onto situations like this, because your top position, presidency, out of everything you and I need to do in the job. Okay, maybe let me ask this back and it will change topic because we've got other things to get into.

Here's a question for you. Tell me the number one quality of a great comedian. Not top five, the number one. You guys earned that world. I have no idea. I think it's charisma. Because it's a charisma. Timing, is it charisma?

What is it? You can learn timing. I think it's charisma. You can't fake it. I don't know. What do you say? Timing and charisma. You put timing first or charisma. you can learn timing I think it's charisma. What do you think? I don't know what do you say timing and charisma you put timing first or charisma Give me one of them. I just want to reading the room. I said charisma. Okay charisma. What do you say? Charisma for sure. Okay fine fair, but there's people without What's the number one quality of a person that could win mistrole ampere that could win mistrole ampere not be competing for mistrole ampere

But win most I think I know the answer around curious what you say you definitely have to own the crowd okay i mean obviously if you have the physique i mean that's that you have to have the physique okay so that's number one yes you have to have the genesis that fair or absolutely if you don't have it it doesn't matter like no i can take everything i'm never going to win mistroll correct i have a gift of some like a seven time the store limp okay let's continue what is number one number one?

Not top five. What is a number one quality for you to have a girl go from being a girlfriend to a wife? Number one not top five Maybe you have a question for you I think every woman says they want to have a good a good communicator someone who listens okay so someone on fairer with that the security stability fair let's work on stability is getting stable is moved into his new spot in practice what's the number one rule of becoming a millionaire

number one that got that money so let's say save the money right what is the number one duty of being a president not top five not top ten number one? Duty of being a president. Not top five, not top 10, number one. Protect your people. Secure your borders. Boom, you got it.

So what I'm trying to tell you is everything that happens this year, nothing is above securing your people. That's number one. And he's not doing it and Trump did. Okay. There's presidents that did. He did not do that. And that's what you get held accountable for. That's accountability.

That is only thing I'm asking for. Because you have to be competent. Last night, I hear shit on a backyard. Who has to get up and grab the gun and go walk around? Yeah, I'm right. I have to do it. I'm the. That's the security of the house. I don't say well Let me send my 79 year old that to go simple. Yeah Big as possum on steroids sitting outside massive benching three plates

Freakin this guy So he's in a backyard. But the point is the point is competency security. A husband, a man, provide security, competency for the family. A president has to give us confidence that if somebody comes and invades us or does something to us, that person's going to put the freaking a level of fear in the other person to say do it. I'm pulling out. I'm kicking back. Listen, I'll give you shit back to you I'm asking you agree with Joe banana's book a little bit. We need a head of a family That's the idea

Joe banana you go back to mafia you watching way too much mafia in the real stuff Joe banana made the same argument. We just need one guy. You think yeah, very buddy It's like a father. Maybe you'd say a boss. I, but not only the same argument. We just need one guy. He thinks, yeah, very buddy, it's like a father. Maybe you'd say a boss. I don't think it's just one guy. I just think like to me, when you think about somebody, where you're gonna say, okay, like right now, you look at candidates as the next president,

you gotta think about somebody that's gonna be protecting the nation. You have to think about somebody that's gonna protect the nation. And make other people think twice when they want to screw with America. I mean, that's, that's, I think more than anything else, guys, we as citizens have to look at this and say,

this central planning can never work. Because this is what's always gonna happen. This idea that some government, some all-trueistic government is gonna come and they're gonna take care of everything. They can't figure anything out. All it takes is one batch of Peter principle and ruins the entire empire, man.

Get rid of imperialism because it's impossible and it's not profitable, except for a very few people at the top, capitalism is the way, not imperialism. And also guys, the centralized stuff, and now they're going to pivot the climate change, they're pivoting to the climate crisis, they're making the pivot. Canada, talk about what happened in Canada. Oh, it's all over. It's Australia, New Zealand, Canada, where Trudeau came out and said,

we're going to apply the lessons learned from this war on COVID, in the war against the climate crisis and all of our environmental crisis and Iniquity and social social justice and was like wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa The lessons learned like in New York right now today. You know, I love talking about my favorite home Soviet block, New York City Right the great you go, New York. It's you have to show your papers. You have to show your papers. You have to show your papers. Where's your papers, oh you cannot get into the bodega today.

Yeah, it's, you can't eat groceries without showing. Now here's what's an assamine about this. If you have a COVID vaccine, you can still be positive. COVID positive and going in a restaurant, but it's okay. You've got your outgie, so no big deal. But if you test negative, all right, like cold beastly, if you test negative and you've been exposed to somebody,

all right, who did a test, but they complied. It's okay, they can feed their children. Did you see the article I sent yesterday? I don't even know if we want to get into it. Yeah, PhDs. Oh You know what we care more about the channel Let's hit the channel than anyone here's opinions. Wait, you know what, fuck it. Let's hit the channel, take it down. What's done with it? Who needs the channel at this point?

Fuck it. Oh my god. But I can't. But let me ask you this. We can't die back. But let me ask you this. It was a great article. If anybody wants to get this article, send me a tweet.

At Patrick, but David, maybe later on today, I'll share the article with you. It's a very interesting article sent to us by one of our good friends here. Anyways, so listen, we're weak or no. We're weak or no. Yeah, we're sitting in the room, and you guys talk about what happened to Miami.

Okay. Oh, man. And what happened to Miami? And we go on and we watch a video, disturbing video. I'm not being gonna show it, but it's a disturbing video where you walk the gentleman through it.

Yeah, young gentleman, apparently was high on mushrooms, walks up a very young couple, 21 years old, and 22 years old, one year old child, sitting in Miami outdoors like we all do, just enjoying a meal over on ocean drive, and a dude walks up with a gun, sticks it in the guy's face, he goes, whoa, I got my baby in my hand,

hands the baby to his, he's 21 years old, this kid, hands the baby to his wife and the guy goes, okay now, now you don't and boom, caps him right there, middle of the restaurant. Friday night. Broad daylight. Not provoked, just apparently he's like, nobody who's ever taken mushrooms,

no mushrooms don't do that to you, so I don't know what maybe bath salts or something. And he starts dancing. Like Fortnite, like dancing over he starts dancing like Fortnite. Like dancing over the body like Fortnite. And then just walks away, apparently shot at somebody else and missed them. And then three cops, man, God bless these guys,

the balls of these dudes, they just, they charged them, attacked them, took them down and he admitted the whole thing while he was being taken down. It was, I'd love to see what was in his actual. It was in his actual, actually. Can you imagine just going with your young wife? I mean, he's 21 years old. It's probably the first vacations ever freaking been on.

They're out in Miami Beach just telling, love in life, look at the sun and the fun and the guy comes up and just, boom. Let me ask you a question. I mean, this transitions us into the conversation we had yesterday, right? And the conversation is about God, right? Now, if you look at God the conversation is about God, right?

Now if you look at God, the debate for God is what? Let's look at the debates for God. There's how many different camps would God? Oh, so many. There is the camp of people who believe there is a God. And within that camp, there's how many religions? A ton. Too many.

Pick and choose, but there's a ton, right? Judaism, Christianity, LDS, Jehovah, Muslim, you know, if you want to put Scientology that can't put Buddhism, Taoism, Taoism, Sikhs, there's a lot, right? But they believe there is a creator, there's a God. The other camp is what? Well they're not sick, they believe there is a God, they just don't know not convinced. Not convinced. And then you have the atheists that flat out believes what There's not a God. Yeah, the community for atheists believe it or not. It's very small It's only like four million people. It's not a big number. It's worldwide. It's not a big number

If you look at them, can you kind of pull up what percentage of the world? Total atheist population worldwide. I think I think it's a it's not a big number It's a small number and we've got three different camps. Okay. I thought it would be larger than that Yeah, it means a US is three million worldwide is what? 450 to 500 million There are 450 atheists and agnostic wait a minute because that's not that's not the same thing So atheists and agnostic I don't put them in same camp Agnostic is a complete different

Understanding than atheism. Exostic just to be clear, I think. Atheism is you basically say there is no God. No, no. Exostic is you're not sure if there is or there isn't. Let's try. Yeah, you don't know, which is fine. So that's not like a no matter what there's not a God.

Okay, so it's okay, Kai, we'll figure that later. Okay, so now today, what everything that's going on, okay? Do we have more people believing in God today or fewer people believing in God today? I would guess fewer. Percentage-wise. I don't know. Because that population percentage- I think, well, it depends. When you say God, like when people start using the term like celestial creator

or a universal energy, I feel like they're still believing in God. They're believing in something. Like when you talked about people praying, you know, how praying centers you, and that people should pray more, I'm like, man, I feel like people talk about prayer now more than when I was a kid, they just rebranded it as manifesting.

Manifest, manifest your future. Yeah, and it's like, that's, that was praying, that's praying. Is that not praying? Yeah, they use the word meditation. Yeah. I meditate is what I do and rather than saying prayer, they use meditation.

It's a more politically correct way. Or affirmations as well. Meditation is slightly different than affirmation. Affirmation is restating the same thing over and over and over again. And to believe it, meditation is more you're sitting there, you're praying, you're thinking about it. What do you do, Pat?

No, I listen I got to tell you I mean for me Prayer is is is magical. You know times in a hospital times in a hospital in pneumonia and COVID, right Tom's center Tom Ellsworth Tom Ellsworth is in a hospital in pneumonia. He was a nice you for the last couple days You know so biz doc the biz doc. So what yes, he's he's there now Today's is best day okay the days is best day which is the stock up your listening we're thinking of you man

we miss you yeah everybody misses hope to hope is he can as any chance he's gonna be here for the vault we don't know we're gonna see what's going to have to point on the bill we're thinking about is this health right so prayer okay

prayer to me but i think about like we we went to the question and said okay, what country would you rather? Raise your kids in would you rather live in a country where the top believes in certain values and principle and they're being a god or the top believes in There is no God their atheist their agnostic like yeah, you know, whatever. We don't need to follow certain guys your day O Christian values you prefer that values in principle. Yeah But let's take that out whatever we don't need to follow certain guys. Your day of Christian values. You prefer that. Values in principle, yeah. Well, you're up with it. But let's take that out.

Let's take that out. And let's say we don't have that. What does that world look like? Let's take that out. Let's take it out and say, listen, I think it's like, I used to go to school. We used to pray. You don't do that anymore.

You used to go to school. You used to stand up to the flag. You don't do that. And it's offensive. We used to go and do certain rituals, right? I remember one time I'm at the owner of Public Storage's house in LA in Malibu, beautiful home, and Dennis Prager got up and he says, what makes a great country is great and what makes religions great is rituals. And he's a Jew. And you know, Jews have a lot of symbolism and rituals, right?

We used to pray, we don't do that anymore. So imagine like you're standing up and praying to a flag or standing up and saluting to a flag or looking up to a flag. What does that do to a six-year-old? What does it do to an eight-year-old? What does it do to a 10-year-old? What does it do when you pray?

Do you really believe in prayer at that time? Do you sit there and say, oh my gosh, prayer works? Or do you sit there and say, what if this works? I don't know if this works? What does I can't think about? But at least you're thinking, right? Well, maybe someone's got my back, maybe someone's watching me. Is it good to think a creator is watching us? Have we gotten away from that? Why don't we want a creator to watch us? Is it because we don't like accountability? Is it because we want to be kind of a rebels and not have anybody hold this account? What is it? Like what? Or is it Is it because we don't like accountability? Is it because we want to be kind of a rebels

and not have anybody hold this account? What is it? Or is it because we had a bad experience with a pastor, with a preacher, with a priest, something happened, we're like, dude, I don't believe in any churches. That's what happened with me. I was in 80s for 25 years.

But the more and more you see the world being a little bit out of whack, the more and more you question, you know what? I don't know. Maybe we need a little bit more faith today, not faith. Maybe we need a little bit more prayer today. Maybe we need somebody to just get up and say, you know what, America, times are a little weird.

I think we gotta pray today. We have somebody that just sits there like, you know, like flat out, a person gets up to her and prays for the entire country today. What if that happened? How would the world react? How would America react? Maybe the man upstairs, if there is a man upstairs, is not happy.

Maybe imagine if a father did so much for his kid and his kids are so spoiled. How would that father react? How would the father react? Would the father sit there? Yes, that I was doing a mentor and call on the elite webinar. One of the guys got kid named George, like them. And I said, so tell me, George, as well, let me tell you, now I think of myself as one of the guys got kidnapped George, like them. And I said, so tell me George, as well let me tell you,

now I think of myself as one of these Bill Gates type of guys, I'm very cold, nothing offense me, I don't get upset like he's talking in big games, 23 years old, I said, really, what kind of business do you run? He says, I don't run a business, I work for my father, my father, you know, he doesn't know what he's doing.

So your dad doesn't know what he's doing, no, he really doesn't know what he's doing. So, so what is your dad, he was a bunch of hotels and Greece, and he's got a big portfolio of real estate of 100 some million dollars, but I do it at all for him. I said, really, he really does know what he's not. So what is your dad doing? He was a bunch of hotels and greets and he's got a big portfolio of real estate of 100 some million dollars, but I do it at all for him. I said, really, you manage to, yeah.

And we got all these seven other CEOs that are watching this, that are doing 200 million in your own business. I said, so tell me who needs who more? Do you need your dad or does he need you more? Oh, no question, my dad can't survive without me. I'm like, oh, really? He said, yeah, so what are you gonna do?

He said, well, next year I'm gonna go away from my dad and do it on my own. It's a fantastic. What's your game plan? He's gonna give me a few million hours to get started I'm like everybody starts crack. I'm like did you just hear yourself? So my dad did for me. I was fine So so maybe if there is a creator just maybe this creator if there is and he plays a role of a father Maybe he's a little disappointed with all the stuff that we have 100% maybe I don't know Gerard what are your thoughts? It's a long conversation. Um, I Can I tell you man? I am a man of faith. I believe in the creator. I believe in in a universe

I have a weird belief that we are all Connected of the same energy. Think science is kind of proven. That matter cannot be created or destroyed. We're all star dust. We're all interconnected. And what I said yesterday is that I believe in a collective consciousness.

I believe there's this thing called noetic science that kind of studies this. But there's a reason why home field advantage works. Their collective consciousness is a real thing. This reason why prayer groups seem to actually have effect. So I think our collective consciousness is a real thing. There's reason why prayer groups seem to actually have effect, right? So I think our collective consciousness is off right now. I think there's something, there is sand in the microchip. I personally don't have much like or use for religion.

I think faith is of God, religion is of man. And I think religion has been a tool used for authorities and not unlike government in this regard. I feel like it is a thing for people that are addicted to power to use, to try to take power and control over their fellow men. Let me jump in on that if you don't mind. Yeah, yeah. Because this came up on my app this morning. And I love what you just said. It says from Ephesians 6, 12, it says, for our wrestling

and not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual host of wickedness and the heavenly places. So you know what that basically means, is that we're going through a lot of craziness right now in this world, and that we need to be guarded, extremely guarded, and therefore we need to come together. No matter if you believe in God or whatever, we need to come together in Pat, you brought up a great story about your son, you know, prayer, you know, showing prayer and stuff like that. At the end of the day, whether you believe in prayer or not, it's just positivity.

We need to come together in some way and understand that something's wrong. And in order to get right, we gotta get right with ourselves and we need to really have better conversations. When you say, I hear people say, love, die, neighbor, this and that,

you're just saying it. You're not doing it. We're living in a world of just words, words, words. No actions, no real honesty. Hypocrisy is at an all-time high with our leaders and all that stuff. We have no guts to even call out. And then when we do call out these so-called rulers, leaders, we get canceled, we get thrown to the side. And then when they come, the pendulum shifts, like we were talking about earlier, like, you know, you have the left doing all this blah, blah, blah, blah. And then now they come the pendulum shifts Like we were talking about earlier like you know you have the left doing all this blah blah blah blah and then now this whole

Biden thing now people from the right are like point See see see it's like but that doesn't work either yeah if we could just say you know what man You know, yeah, you messed up but I'm gonna show you some grace Because there's a bigger goal here and the goal is this Peace and we're on the Righteousness. Stuff like that. Yeah, I don't know. I think, you know, obviously, where you are and where you are, you know, with Ephesians, you just read right there. I, what is prayer? Think

about what prayer is. Prayer is what? You don't pray and say, God, I would love it if you gave me a Lamborghini tomorrow and I would love it if we get a Ferrari. And if I get a hundred thousand dollar check, I will be more Christian next week. it if you gave me a Lamborghini tomorrow and I would love it if we get a Ferrari. And if I get a $100,000 check, I will be more Christian next week. And if you give me that Farragamo shoes with the nice Stefano Richie suit, I'm gonna go to church. You're coming for Joel Austin, hard show.

Yeah, I'm going after Joel Austin, you are too. But you know what prayer is? Prayer is, prayer forces you to think about other people. Prayer is, you know what, I'm praying for Gerard. You know, he's going through a certain phase right now. I pray Gerard told me something about his mom, his dad, his brother, sister. I'm gonna pray for him, and he looked like

he was going through some time right now. I'm gonna pray for Adam, you know, hey, you know, he's going through this. I'm gonna pray for Tom. The part about prayer is makes you think about others. Meditation is more you, most of the time, prayer is out. You're praying for someone else. So what would happen if we're coming from that mindset? You're thinking about other people. Look, for me, all I know is you give me a great organization, you give me a great family that keeps winning,

you're going to find strong values and principles there. And a moment values and principles goes away, Havoc's about to take place. Okay, now the part about the fate that we didn't get into yesterday is how many people you know that use Bible as a weapon. How many people do you know that use the scripture as a weapon? I think history is is chock full. I don't disagree. Yeah, Muslims may say a lot of people use the coronas a weapon. 75% of them say this is a religion of what? Peace. Peace, right? Hey,

you know, there's an extremist, but that's not us. You know, guns. Let's talk about guns. It's gun a good invention to the world. I think it's one of the greatest inventions ever. Who did it help the most? Men or women? Women. Why far? What? Give me the split. 10 to 1, 20 to 1, 5 to 1. I mean, we talked about this, you know, in podcast past, but I mean, like, literally, this is the first time in the history of our species that not being big, strong, and violent is the marker of success. And that, the gun is equaled the playing field for smaller people, more intelligent people even. If people are able to no longer just bully their way into success, you can't get in a ship

with 16 other Norsemen and go across the English channel and take over and tie it to go away. Yeah. So again, we talked about it with the brawn James one and I call them the repentant rich I'm like you never in the history of man could somebody that was born in that status of life in Akron, Ohio become a billionaire You would have had to kill or been responsible for organizing an army that killed Millions of people hundreds of thousands of people in order to go from poverty to a literal prince a king like that So you know the fact that he's's a billionaire by playing ball and hole, and the fact that he can go and be on TV every day, where everybody knows where he is,

and they know that he has all this money and everything like that, and he doesn't have to worry about his family being in home or his stuff being in home. He doesn't go to sleep every night wondering if, oh my God, there's gonna be marauders coming to take everything that I've earned in the middle of the night. He has indirectly guns to thank for that.

Yeah, so. Let me jump in for a sec. So there's two, we started this conversation with basically saying, look, we're a little off track here right now, we kind of got to get our central nervous system of our consciousness together. But at the same time, like what you're saying, I think this is the best that humans have ever lived.

Ever. Ever. It's quantified. So exactly. Charles Dickens, it was the best of times, it's the worst of times. It's so easy to point out all the bad stuff. All this guy on mushroom, like it's crazy.

ISIS, Al-Qaeda, whatever, whatever. How many people have been lifted out of poverty? How many people over the last 50 years? how many people have clean drinking water now? How many people, how many babies aren't dying because polio isn't killing them the second they're born. It's so easy to just jump on and pile on the bad, the negative things are bad, which in some cases they are. But a lot of things are good, man.

Well, I think those things are good. I think the term is gratitude. And I think a lot of us have to live in that moment, a little bit more, right? Instead of just complaining and whining and touching and moaning, we have to be in more gratitude. And like you said, we're living in some very strange times, but at the same time, I mean, look,

we're able to have this podcast connect with people. you know, we'll be changing, you know, hopefully someone's perspective, life, whatever, in just as having this conversation, you know, but, you know, I feel very fortunate and a lot of things I get to do, and that's because of, you know, evolution. So Pat, let me ask you this. So you brought up guns there. So are you saying that religion to you is analogous to a gun? Absolutely. A lot of people here are talking insane stuff like let me read some what a couple people said. Wars, wars, wars. Bible is a Marco D Pascal. Bible is mostly fake and Paul Baraz is 100% right.

You've got another guy that's talking about most Paul Buraz just gave 10 bucks and he said most people in fairy tales, most believe in fairy tales, God and religion, sure seek like it works, LOL, you know, people talking trash about God, right, and talking trash about Bible. There's an interesting thing about the Bible, I will say, and I love this stuff, by the way, like I spend my weekends reading up about this stuff. I told you about my affinity for the historical Jesus, whether I believe he's the son of God or not, the he's the greatest activist of all time.

I am fascinated with the life of Yeshua. I'm fascinated by it. And really the Bible, and this is an epistome people are, but just try to have an open mind. The Bible really, all right, that we know today is a treaty between Judaism, monotheism, and the Roman Empire. Catholicism is a great, it's an understanding between the growing sex of Judaism. Jesus never wanted Christianity.

He was a Jew, throwing through, rabbi. And there was Roman Catholicism, right? Roman Catholicism was the, what's the word I'm looking for here? The compromise. It was the compromise between the dying old Roman ways and the new Roman as Rome became Eastern, not Western. So there's geopolitical, like it's fascinating politics behind this stuff.

And I'm not saying that Jesus isn't the son of God, I'm not saying that it's not the word of God. That's not what I'm saying. But if you believe that religion is of man, all right? And if you can research the council in Nicaea, understanding what this was from a political standpoint is the most fascinating times in human history. We're still talking about 2000 years later. The council in NICIA shaped the world for the next 1,200, 1,300 years. It's a fascinating time, man.

So, anyway, I'm sorry, but you asked the question, though. You asked the question saying the gun comparison to a Bible, right? Okay, yeah. So here's here's how I see this. Anything can be used as a weapon. Anything can be used as a weapon, right? They say the moment you learn how to persuade, never go to the tipping point of manipulate just to avoid you being wrong at times. When you learn how to persuade, you're one, one move away from being a manipulator just because you don't want, because now you know how to win arguments, okay? So if the mission becomes about winning, you will tip into manipulating. Got it then persuading. I don't know if that makes sense. Yeah, it's kind

of like what lawyers are trying to do. Yeah. So once you learn how to persuade, you're like, listen, this guy knows how to persuade. You know how to persuade. You know how to persuade. I know how to persuade, But there's like, you know what? And this argument, he's beating me, screw it. I'm going to manipulate because I don't want to be, yeah. And by the way, that's a problem. And that's a problem. Everybody would power that knows how to persuade has to deal with.

Everybody happens in marriage, parenting, everything. Okay, let's set that part aside. Computer, that's a weapon. The Bible can be used as a weapon. This is a weapon. This right here is one of the most powerful weapons in the world today, right? So there's there's a couple arguments. Me, I Went through the phase of trying to break everything down with the Bible to prove to everybody that the Bible is wrong

That was my outcome You think the Bible is right? Yes. You need to tell me That back in the days a woman's gonna have a baby without any we have to believe it. You want me to believe it? This was this the 23 year old kid that would go to every pastor that he could find and I would try to prove him wrong. That was this guy. We're 22, 23 years old. This is all I did for two and a half years, right? You mean to tell me have to believe that? Let me get the straight. What makes you think? Maybe she hooked up with a guy that nobody knew about and then boom

Next thing you know, she's got a baby to save her she has to say well, this is a guy with all this stuff, right? Okay, then people say well, let's just say she made that up Okay, let's just say she made that up What are the freaking chances that she makes up the story and the kid ends up becoming the biggest Influencer in the world. It lets this so for me, the skeptic is like, well, there's chances. What are the chances? One at 113 freaking billion, okay, math genius, break that down for me. Then I back up.

I'm like, that was it. Let me take a different angle. While back in the days, people were so naive. And a person could come up with a great communicator that can manipulate everybody. So you can use that as a weapon to manipulate others. Okay, great. It's still happening today. But fine, let's just say the naivety level is lower today. People were more naive back in the days because they wanted to be controlled. Every time I went to it, finally got to the following point. Here's what the point is. Are there some things you will never know about your dad and your mom that they will never tell you?

Are there stuff you're never going to know about your parents like you know a couple of the arguments or that part or this one Are there things that you will never find out? Yes or no? If you spend the rest of your life trying to figure out a hundred percent accuracy of who's right mom or dad Are you ever going to find that out? Yes or no? You're never gonna find it out, right? Okay, you can spend the rest of your life trying to find that every single thing about Christianity, Jesus, God, everything. Are you gonna find that a hundred percent truth

of all of it? Hundred percent truth, not ninety-nine percent, not ninety-eight percent, a hundred percent truth. So then that leaves us with what? Okay, so you got emotional, you got logical. Let's look at both side. Okay, for me, on the logical side, do I want my kids to learn certain values and principles

to follow? Do I feel more comfortable a country is being built on? Certain set of values and principles? Yes, would I rather have my kids go to church and not go to church? Yes, would I rather have my kids pray than not to pray? Yes, would I rather have my kids go to church and not go to church? Yes, would I rather have my kids pray than not to pray? Yes, would I rather have my kids go to an atheist school or a Jewish school and I'm a Christian myself?

I would rush right to have, would I rather have my kids be held accountable to a certain level? So this whole thing about you're right, you're delusional, you're this, you're that look, you're talking to a guy that's spend the entire time trying to mathematically prove everybody wrong in the concept of Bible and Oh, no, are you mean to tell me this guy build a ship

and two animals on each side and came in all of them? You mean come on, bro, that's a freaking fictional story. You believe that? I don't know. I don't know. You mean to tell me that such as I don't know what I'm trying to tell you, I don't know what I am telling you is, if a person reads Proverbs, they become a better human being.

I don't know why. Go read Proverbs and become a better human being. I don't know why. Go read Proverbs and see what happens to you. I don't know why. I don't care what you are. Just go start with Proverbs. Read and see what happens afterwards. I think we need a little bit. This is coming from a guy that's a sinner.

This is coming from a guy that's flawed. This is coming from a guy that's done a lot of stupid shit in his life. But if I ever go more that site, I make better decisions. I think today, if there's ever been a time, the country that was founded on the right belief system who ends up beating everyone in only 200 years against empires that have been around for a few thousand years,

maybe this country's been blessed. And maybe we need to kind of go back a little bit and say what was the reasoning? Was it us? Or was there something else that was on our side? I don't know. I would say this. And this is where I would agree with the kind of Judeo Christian framework that you guys talked about before, right?

I don't think that the quote unquote atheist today doesn't believe in a higher power. I think government is their higher power. I think that they believe in the system, the socialist system as their Judeo Christian framework. I believe that especially this new vote democratic socialist, this isn't politics to them. This is religion to them. And I think part of the argument that we've had over the course of the last 10 years is you just talked about intellectual versus emotional, politics is an intellectual conversation. There's, there's, ebb and there's flow.

There's times where you need liberalism and there's times where you need concern. No question. There's, you know, I always try to think in a, in a binary system, you know, you'd like to say two wings of the same bird. I think of the Democrats as the gas pedal and the Republicans as the break.

You need gas to move forward. You need a break or you're gonna fall off the cliff cliff, right? So where I think we've gone awry in our country in the last 10 years and I think it's coming from the outside world, specifically hammering us, is this kind of global communism, this democratic socialism, this is religion to people. For all the same ways, I even said this to you guys last night where you guys are saying all right Well, you got to think of your neighbor you need to think of of someone bigger than yourself You have to provide like this is what I hear from socialists all the time This is this is social justice rhetoric

You know, this is the stuff that they are all the time saying the people at the top have too much the people at the bottom Need to be taken care of you got to think of somebody other than you, someone like this is Socialist rhetoric, and then you made a great point. What is the difference? There is one key difference, and there's one difference that separates everything, and that is force. Force.

Yeah, I have the choice. You know, you don't have to pray. I'm cool with that. Right. You don't have to give money. I'm cool with that. It's a choice. How many times have I gone to a and i've given anything hundreds of times

not one oh my gosh what a center i'm telling you the truth what do you want to tell you i didn't give anything that they have one to travel on to church so many times is great i should talk about that you're here the hour's catholic but the point is i still walked out there was a choice yeah old patty big dole old patty Patty McDool goes in and he says,

oh, forgive me father, I have sinned, it's been seven days since my last confession. Well, what would you do, Patty? Well, I lusted over me neighbor's wife. So, well, did you do anything? No, but I thought about it. I thought about it a lot. And I thought about it constantly.

Well, thinking about it is just as bad as doing it, my son's song. I'm going to need you to repent I repent and we're gonna need penance. What do I need to do father? Seven Hail Mary's and put ten quid in the box on your way out to show God you mean it So he says this Hail Mary's and then he goes to the donation box takes the quid out and he holds it over the top And then puts it back in his pocket and looks and the pastor goes out He goes whoa whoa whoa, Patty, what happened?

I thought you were repenting and goes, well, father, I listened to your words and I thought about it and that's just as bad as doing it. So I figured out, okay. Anyways, by the way, you know, it's crazy for me for years, we follow the rhetoric, which is what? Which is, never talk politics we follow the rhetoric, which is what? Which is, never talk politics, never talk religion, never talk this kind of stuff, and this is what we talk about all day. If you don't like it, this end of podcast for you, I guarantee you, but if you like it,

smash that subscribe button, put a thumbs up to help us out with the algorithms, because we've got a few more topics to go. Let me get to the next thirty-nine minutes. Let me give you one more thing. Here we go, folks. Everybody, pay attention attention turn on the computer Do tell you kids to be quiet items got some thoughts for us. I just I'd be remiss if I didn't just bring up I'm thinking you're gonna pray for all of us. Well, it does involve prayer. Okay, I'm gonna clear it. I think

You know prayer or affirmation or meditation or thinking of others is important Okay, no doubt and I think you know whether they, take a second, moment of silence, that's great. But the whole blanket, we had an issue, thoughts and prayers. Hey, can you get your thoughts and prayers out there today? Hey, I, you know, my dad said, really could use your thoughts and prayers. Hey, we just had another gun tragedy, thoughts and prayers.

At the end of the day, thoughts and prayers don't do shit. They don't solve problems. If they don't mean anything. Oh, that's what I'm saying. Like the old thoughts and prayers thing. I'm just so sick of the thoughts and prayers thing. Are you sick of virtual signaling? Are you sick of praying?

The virtual signaling. But I'm not, it's not being getting political. It's just the, hey, thoughts and prayers. Thought, oh, we just had another 50 people guy from a gun violence. We really could use that. Oh, that's had another 50 people guy from a gun violence. We really could use that. Well, that's just like when I have friends from the UK, right?

So like I, you know, travel and, you know, I have a couple of buddies out in Birmingham, England, right? So they'll say, why is it that you guys always say, have a nice day? He's like, you guys don't mean that shit one bit. Yeah. Have a nice day. Have a nice day. Have a nice day.

It's just a saying. So I totally agree with what you're saying. I mean, at the end of the day, we got to say what we mean. Well, I know you want to move on, Pepp. But one thing that I did want to ask you about this, man, is I mean, you've talked about this a lot. I mean, it's interesting that you want increased religion, increased accountability, but you grew up in an environment where religion

got a ride, completely turned your world upside down. Yeah, but it was force. Again, it goes back to force. My kids, everything is a choice. Hey, you don't have to read today. It's the currency of the house, but I don't have to let you watch TV today. But you don't have to ever read in my house,

but I don't have to ever let you watch TV in our house. It's a choice. Hey, you don't have to clean your bed. Believe me, buddy, like I tell my son, you don't need to cook. Said you need to clean your bed. Nobody said you need to clean your bed, but I don't need to let you play iPad this weekend.

It's a choice. There's always a choice, right? I'm still gonna love you. You're still gonna be my son. I'm still gonna take care of you, but I'm sorry, video games don't come if you don't do your part. I got to do my part life is tough I got to do to the first part is the problem in countries like Iran because you don't have the choice Hey, you want to cover your hair? No problem do it. You don't no problem do it. That was a shot's way

You want to cover yourself go for it? Some people want to wear like, you know, uh, show everything cleavage. And they want to have the shirt high and show the belly buttons because it's peers and wear a skimpy. What do you call it? Uh, skirts. Guess what? I'm sure you support that. You know, I'm sure you're Now somebody who's extremely attractive doesn't want to show any of it. She only wants to show it to her man. So every time you see her, you're like, she's dropped at gorgeous,

but I have no clue because she's always covered up. That's her choice. Great. She wants to, somebody goes to the beach. They wear a two-piece and they got a thong on. Okay? Now that's kind of weird, but I like it. Let's just say you like it.

Some people go, they don't want to wear that. It's a choice. The force is the problem, is when the problem becomes a little bit problematic for me. But to go back to what you just said, and I've heard that a million times, hey, David, can you grab somebody to grab a charger for my iPad, please my iPad just died, if you guys got it,

I wouldn't mind it. Here's what I will say about what you just said, okay. I partially agree and I partially disagree. Let me explain. Who have I no longer, you or Tom? Tom. Okay, who gave $10,000 to Obama and Trump and committed to, I'm gonna give $10,000 for this to happen?

Your boy sauce. Who else here gave that? I don't know. But who here supports for that to become a reality? Ever. Did Mario give anything? Not that Mario Aguilar. Not him. Mario didn't give anything. Yeah. But does Mario want to support me doing the interview to see Bush and Obama and Trump in the same room? Of course. I think that there's levels to support. Some go above and beyond. Some people, all they can do is say, I'm just going to pray for you. I got nothing else to give you.

What are you gonna do? My thoughts and prayers go for you, right? Some say, hey, I'm not only gonna pray for you, I'm gonna make a phone call to see if I can get a guy to support you. Hey, not only am I gonna pray for you, I'm gonna make a phone call, but I'm also gonna come out to your place to help you out,

whatever you need, I got you. Some say thoughts and prayers, some say call a friend, some come, and some go and give 50,000 orders or 10,000. So there's a levels, I don't mind it. As long as the effort is to give something, if you want to give time to pray for me, that's a starter. There's a levels in life.

You know, hey, if somebody works at a company, not everybody's gonna be a C-suite executive, somebody may come here and make sure the place is clean. You're contributing to society. Somebody wants to come in here and edit. Fantastic. Somebody wants to know you cut. Great.

Somebody wants to grab, I don't know, as long as we're contributing. The part about prayer is the barrier to enter. It's just to pray. Go for it. There's no expectation. That's much better than a guy says, screw you, I don't care what happens to this guy.

So it's a way to at least get people started. I hear you on that. there's levels to this. So imagine you're raising, you pledged $5 million, right? And Aaron Sigerman called in, he gave a half a million, I gave 10,000, this person, this person, that's great. Imagine if you were trying to raise $100 million. Okay, hypothetically.

And all you got was a million people giving you their thoughts and prayers And my point is this it's just empty. It's just thoughts and prayers I think I'm many people give you a thoughts and prayers and literally don't think or pray They just write that down and move on with their life, but the guess who guess who guess who's responsible for that? That's that's on everybody. That's no that's their character though. That's their character That's their character their held respond's their character. That's their character. Their health respond. That it only hurts one person is themselves, you know, I my problem is if there's actually something that needs to get done whether

pick a pick a pick healthcare pick gun violence pick Green you do whatever it is and then just dots and prayers. It doesn't get things done. It's my point I like choices if you don't want to Yeah, and I leave it on you. That's fine. I'm just saying that I need something more. If you're looking to raise money, I'm just saying, if I'm looking to raise money for a cause, and all you're hitting me with is a million people

give me thoughts and prayers, buddy. I need some, I need actual money. I need actual help. I need you to buy a cheer. I know what you're saying. Dots and prayers just an easy way out of you're saying is the fake side of it. It's fake. There are people, there are some that will do it through fake looks just for social

like. Yeah, I fully get that. Anyways, I agree and I had my own perspective on that, but it is what it is. So let's talk about work ethic. Let's have my work ethic. Have you ever heard Elon Musk China and Tom Brady in the same story? It's kind of weird, isn't it? It's a little bit of weirdness going on there.

But let's try to see if we can pull this off. So Elon Musk shows the new robot and then says, we definitely need universal basic income. It's eventually going to happen. This is based on the new Tesla bot. During the recent presentation on AI, Joseby Tesla Musk said he is working on creating a Tesla bot a robot that would do dangerous,

repetitive, and boring tasks. So humans don't have to, but Musk recognized that the creation of this robot might take place of the jobs that are people currently getting paid for, which is why he said a guaranteed income will likely be necessary in the future. Essentially, if physical work will be a choice, this is why I think long term

there will need to be universal basic income. Okay, so that's Musk. And he's talked about this before. This is not the first time he's talked about this. He talked about this when Andrew Yank started talking about the thousand dollars to everybody, the UBI, and it must kind of support it as well, right? So just to be clear, Elon Musk is a UBI guy.

Clear. Elon Musk is a UBI guy. And by the way, his argument is a valid argument because he thinks Technology is gonna advance human beings, okay? When you're the person that's creating all this technology You better be a UBI guy because you're gonna put millions of people out of work FYI he also becomes the most dangerous man in the world if he does that Just so you know because essentially if you create this robots to be that smart eventually robots take control of you

If you create them to be everything he's doing with the neural link and uh... just think you have some theories about that you think he he wants to you know i think he likes to bang aliens i think you've said that maybe once or twice before maybe more good look at his girl i saw that's not a name chinese authorities say over time start right now i think policy is illegal this is a roider story chinese authorities say over time nine i think policy is illegal. This is a Reuters story. Chinese authorities say, over time, 996 policy is illegal. 996 is, you know, you're working 996 days a week.

Chinese Supreme Court said, over time practice of 996, working 996 PM days is illegal, taking aim at the controversial policy that is common amongst many Chinese technology firms. Working such hours has become a badge of honor for some Chinese companies and employees, Silicon Valley heavyweights, such as Sukhoi Capital's Mike Moritz have highlighted it as a competitive advantage the

country has over the United States, Chinese tech, giants, including TikTok owner, bite dance, having recent months, been walking back with their grueling work hours, including the big week, small week policy that requires workers to alternate five day work weeks and six day work weeks. So that's China going away from the six days, right? And Sukhoi, capital saying, they have an edge over us. And then that listed a Brady story, okay?

So we got Musk, we got China, we got Brady story. Tom Brady disavowals today's work ethic. It's not how to live a joyful life, Fox News story. Brady has some advice on how to be successful. Stop blaming everyone else. Life is about always changing and adapting on different things. Today the world wants to blame and shame and guilt

and fear everything all the time. We would never teach our kids that, you know? We would never say, this is how you're gonna get through life the best, you're gonna blame everyone when things don't go right. Brady called the sport the ultimate blame game. General managers, head coaches, coaches players quarterbacks receivers defense offense It's so easy to blame someone else

It's so hard to say I didn't get the job done and we collectively didn't get the job done That's the best part about team sports. I picked a team where everybody's like hey, we got to get better It's not like I got all the answers you just just, you guys just all screwed it up except me. Exact opposite way to play the game, you know, you got to play together. So that's what he's saying. Man. He's saying if you want to make it at that level, it sucks. It's not the way to live and don't blame people. So what are your thoughts about the future of hard work? What's going to happen? Phil, you want to start this one off? Oh my gosh. I mean look being a bodybuilder You're your own first responder and everything you do. I

gotta get up in the morning Even if I have shrewd wake me up. I still got to move. I still got to eat that food I still got to get on that treadmill this morning. I was like gosh I haven't trained legs in like a month, and I'm gonna go do it. I didn't wanna do it, but I tried to, you know, I live by my own accord. I say, live life like leg day.

And that means like, it's gonna hurt. You have fear and anxiety or whatever, but you know what, there's a reward. And that reward isn't for everybody else. That reward is for me. So I have a dream of like what I wanna do. And I'm like, look, I'm gonna do this. And here's the best part about being a bodybuilder.

If I eat right, I get results. If I train right, I get results. Practice does not make perfect because I can practice a lot of freaking bad habits. So I gotta be a student of myself and I have to evolve throughout my life. Cause what I did in my 20s, I damn sure couldn't do in my 30s.

I'm 41 now and I'm learning a lot. And I'm scratching my head and I'm thinking, oh my gosh, if I could apply what I know now to the 20 year old Phil Heath, holy smokes. But that's life and it has no rehearsal whatsoever. But I can't blame a coach. Even if I decided, you know, I work with Honey Ramboid, right?

Brilliant coach. I lost the Olympian 2018 and 2020, right? I could literally point at him and say, you know what, we didn't do this right, you didn't tell me this. Who hired him? I did. So, you know, like the level of accountability, I mean, people have to really start asking

themselves, are they holding themselves accountable? Don't always look for someone else to do it, man. You're making your choices. And like Pat said, no one's forcing me to compete, either. No one's forcing me to do this podcast. No one's forcing me to do shit. There are two things. The two C's, I teach kids and stuff.

Choices and consequences. You've got to know the damn difference. And if you don't, life is going to teach your ass and it's going to be a very difficult lesson. You just have to pray to God that it's going to be a very inexpensive lesson because if not, it's going to be a truly expensive lesson like we saw at the beginning of this show. Is that those are expensive lessons for you not understanding your choices in this life.

That's where I'm at with this. What do you think about that animal? So you got great feedback, obviously. You talk about seven times a straw limpion for bodybuilders. You're being judged for every single piece of muscle, every fiber, everything that you got going on, right? So for you, Musk says we're going to UBI no matter what. China, 996.

Brady, it's not how to live a joyful life by blaming everybody. Take responsibility. Who's right? Well, I think at the end of the day, why do humans work, right? Obviously, the easy answer is like, well, I gotta get shit done.

But I think work gives you meaning and purpose to your life. And like, I look at, it's funny because I'll walk, I'm sure the people with pets out there, you know, have the same thing. You walk out your door and I see my two cats, I'm like, enjoy your day, you two, like doing nothing. Right? You know, you got your dogs, all right? Just be a dog.

So dogs do dog things and cats do cats things and humans do human things. What do humans do? Humans need to work. Work gives you meaning and purpose and community and friendship and everything that comes associated with work and improvement. Like when you, like the picture of you

and when you're in Denver playing point guard or whatever, it's a different fill. Imagine if you just, obviously with baseball and everything you did with MMA and everything and everything, imagine if you Pat never put in the work to be where you are today, you were just that 22-year-old still at Bally's

being, ah, whatever, I don't need to work that hard. I think there was a pull out here that survey shows that people no longer believe working hard would lead to a better life. I wanna know who actually took that survey and took that poll. Who's raising these freaking gears? That's my biggest question.

Well, I can tell you there are people that I know in the entertainment industry specifically that feel that way because they do put in crazy amounts of hours and they do put in their all their art and their intellectual property To being a comedian they're sleeping on couches and they're sleeping Capitalism is phenomenal for most things everybody here knows that I'm a free market guy Capitalism does art pretty poorly. That's one of the things education and art

We don't we don't do well try to try with with capitalism, all right So there are people and they and they are talented and they working very, very hard and they're getting nothing out of it. Then they have to do a job. Now where UBI comes in is it's necessary to stop, you know, revolution. UBI is going to become necessary because if you have somebody you talked about before, somebody that's a janitor, somebody that maybe tried to make it as a singer or something like that, got got a girl pregnant, got a guy pregnant, got pregnant by a guy, whatever it is. And then necessity had to take over. Now they had to take the first job that they could.

And they are a janitor, they're driving Uber. I was shut down in nonessential tattoo. I went from two national tours. I was on two national tours two years ago to driving Uber and working construction. Because only only two jobs I can get during the pandemic. There was only two essential jobs I could do. I couldn't tell jokes, I couldn't go on tour, everybody was gonna get sick,

but I could work construction and I could drive Uber. As mad as I was at the world for having to do that. If I didn't have that available, if robots had that job, and I was just sitting there with my credit evaporating and my savings evaporating, I would have gone insane. So if you have people that are taking jobs, that they don't want, just to survive, and they're already kind of skeptical

about the system as it is, right? Or they feel skeptical about the system, and maybe they are working hard, but they're working hard in low wages where they don't see any way to move forward. There's only so much money you can wake work as a waitress or bartender and it's not like they're not working hard. Now if a robot does that which in Australia I'm sure you've traveled the world, Patrick's travel the world, you guys have seen this in airports where now they don't even have bartenders in some of these

places. You get a cup and the cup has a false bottom and you put it on, you put your credit card in and you put the cup on and it fills the beer from the bottom. It's not even a bartender. You don't tip the machine. So, G, give me, so are you a believer in you, B.I. or no? Honestly, I wasn't and I'm coming around to it because I think it's a necessity. Not in this moment. Okay.

So 20 years down the road. I think it's a necessity. 20 years down the road. I think it's a necessity. Give me, like we've seen what happened during COVID. Two thirds of people staying home are getting paid. Or to stay home that they were in their job. I'm collecting UBI.

I'm a Milton. What are people doing with their lives? I'm a Milton. If you just get paid to stay home, what do people do? I don't think that that's what UBI really is. I think UBI is supposed to be that basic needs are met. And I don't know the math behind it. So well, I'm not necessarily sold on it, but I think it's something that has to be taken seriously and it's something that needs to be researched as much as possible. And I know that this goes, this is a seeming contradiction to my worldview.

But again, I just think that we're going to run into a situation where if you have 10, 15, 20, 30 percent unemployment worldwide, you have a nightmare situation. Unless you are going to have a global economy where it's going to be cheaper to have labor, and you can go be a construction worker in Africa, then you can, you can, like, when I look at, you know, Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos go into space, I don't think about space. I think about international travel in two hours. I think about them going to the upper atmosphere

and then coming back down in Johannesburg and that could be your morning commute. Like, that's what I think. Like, we're gonna have a global economy. I don't know, man, I think the world in 50 years is gonna be so different than the world we have today. It's gonna be incomprehensible for us to understand how we didn't function in those ways.

Hebrew, what was the name of the guy that he said? I got $10 billion richer during the pandemic and the question was does the money flow up, does it flow down? What was that story? Because I feel like that's where the money's gonna end up with the rich anyway. Unfortunately, what we can say, everything we want about

UBI, people, if you don't change your habits internally, they're going to keep spending money, money is going to go to the rich. It doesn't matter what you do. You get money to UBI. We need universal basic income. Just think the money is going to the top billionaires. Just think about it that way.

It's going to go through here to the billionaire. This whole universal basic income is money to the rich. Great. Go do it. It's going to flow to the rich, no matter what you do. Now, on the argument about robots taking over all this other stuff. Great, so do we know, do we not know?

This whole thing about robots been talked about for a long time. Education's gonna have to change. The approach to school is gonna have to change. The approach to what jobs you go get is gonna have to change. The approach to school is gonna have to change. The approach to what jobs you go get is gonna change. In a, if you live in Bermuda, you know what's the number one job kids go get, what degree they get, what is a number one job

kids go get in Bermuda? Can you guess what it is? Yeah, what's what it is? It's what it's called. Hospitality. And math and actuary. Because the five reinsurance companies are in Bermuda. So when is the last time you thought about getting a degree in actuary?

You don't. Well, in Bermuda, you do because you want to go and come back and work for one of the five actuary companies. So you have to shift the way you go get a degree. If you're working a place where the biggest employer is forward and you have to kind of think about it, I don't want to leave this place. I want to be in Detroit. Great.

You're going to go and come back, let's just say you're going to get that job. If you're living in a place where you're in Cilling Coval, I want to be in Detroit. Great, you're going to go and come back unless you say you're going to get that job. If you're living in a place where you're in Cilling Coventry, everybody wants to hire a predictive analytics or an engineer, guess what you're probably going to go do, right? If you're living in Texas in a farm place, raising cattle and that's what you're probably going to go do that.

So whoop pivot, will adjust. People will be pivoting and adjusting, but money's always going to flow to the people with the best habits. I don't care what anybody says, money's always going to flow to the people with the best habits. I don't care what anybody says, money is always going to flow to the people with the best habits. This thing about China's 996, I hate to say this to you, but it's kind of impressive the fact that China is doing this. They're under 100 years behind US. US, they did this with Ford because back in the days, the average human worker was working 69 hours a week.

It was 69 hours a week that we worked. The average American worker used to work 69 hours a week. Today the numbers are on 39 hours a week, right? Give her take, right? Versus 69 hours. Now here's the thing with me. I have work 996 for nearly 20 years. But it's by choice. I have work 996 by choice for 20 years. These guys work 996 by force. There's a big difference. I don't know a single billionaire that you meet who doesn't have a, you know, 8, 10, 6 for 10 years or 20 years.

That is a proven formula if you want to make it to the high level. You got to really light it up for a good run that you go on. You got to go on that one run of yours, right? So this is mandatory for everybody that wants to kill it in their space You need the rest you need all that stuff for that's that and then the last part about people no longer believe in You know working how we'll lead to a better life really okay? Let's unpack that people no longer believe. Let's put a funnel put a funnel there, right? What's the funnel the funnel is a kid is born,

the first five years the kids influence by who? Who's the kid influenced by parents? And then from five years old he goes to kindergarten, he's influenced by who? Friends, okay? They from first to 12 years old they're influenced by who? Teachers, teachers, teachers, teachers, what percentage of teachers love capitalism?

10%, 20%, 30% I don't know then go to college you go to college for four years You tell me what percentage of professors in college love capitalism today tell me how many of them? I just interviewed the Communist professor in Riverside Community College like the guy had a great conversation with them He fully believes the two the greatest leaders that helped society the most are Stalin and Mao. He wasn't joking. He was 100% firm about it. I asked him if a 22 year old kid has a decision today

to beat a next Jeff Bezos, create 1.3 million jobs, or beat a next Stalin, what is better for the world? He says it's not even close, Stalin. If he becomes a next Stalin revolutionary, it's better for the world. This guy fully believes it. And he's not 22. He's 45 years old. Our age, talking some like that, right? That guy's 45.

mid 40s. The beard makes him look like a hundred and forty five. But the point is this, when people say things like, you know, a survey show, people no longer believe working hard will lead to better life. It's not. It should say professors encourage kids to no longer believe that working card. You got to change the wording to that title. Or you could say you could work smart, not hard, or maybe you could do both, but the fact that I just don't want to work hard. Give me this BS about working hard doesn't work. So you got to work harder and smarter. I mean, in order to be competitive, are kidding me? Petch is illustrated it perfectly When I when I got into bodybuilding October 8th 2002. I said I want to be a bodybuilder I

Recognized that I was at a disadvantage Because I was gonna go against people that have been doing lift and waist since they were 12 years old Now I wasn't one of those guys, but yet I did have the genetics right when I turned pro When I turned pro 16 years ago everything reset I Was a pro I was 25 years old and I'm going against the best in the world and I'm thinking I got out work I got out smart them, but it's gonna take time Okay, I didn't do the Olympia my first two years of being a pro in 06 and 07 even though I qualified Why because I was like I need more stage time so I got on the road

I did numerous appearances to get my stage presence up I knew nothing about that. I had no coach that taught me those things I did everything in my power to make sure what I can increase my capacity at a faster rate than everybody else So I could equal the playing field eventually Eventually, I'm gonna catch their ass. And guys like Dexter, you can ask them. He said, eventually this kid is gonna win because I knew that I had to do what. I couldn't train just one time a week.

I had to train twice a day, twice a week. But then I was like, well, I'm gonna burn out. Everybody's like, over-training, this and that. Well, massage therapists, aguponcho, infrared sauna, hyperbaric, whatever it is. Instead of buying bull shit, I went out and spent money on those modalities that increased my capacity.

So then eventually when I got there, I would arrive and then I'll wait. I did my first one, there'd be a got third. The rest is history. I was able to dominate during that time period because I had already made those other years Profitable so then when opportunity met I was like Let's go but 8 billion people in the world only four have won mr. Olympia seven times

Okay, that's all right. Yeah, so what do you say by the way out work out? Prove out strategize and the scariest one? Out-last is the most intimidating thing. It's the most intimidating thing in the world of competition. The fact that you, I tell you, I should tell my competitors. You can beat me one day, maybe a week, maybe a month. You'll match my work ethic for you. I will guarantee you you're gonna slow down. I said, you're gonna go, how many years are you gonna go? I'm gonna go five years straight. I'm gonna beat you. I'm gonna go 10 years. You're not gonna last or let me so that's the mindset. That's intimidating But let's let's transition because we got four more stories that like you get to me only have 13 minutes So let's see what we can do here on rapid fire with some of these stories, okay?

Australia created a police state to stop COVID data shows us not working I'm getting more videos are Are you guys, I'm sure you guys are seeing obviously what's going on over there. On Monday, New Zealand Prime Minister, Jacinda Arden announced the government would be extending this lockdown following an outbreak, the Delta, Delta variant. We don't yet believe that we have reached a peak of outbreak or necessarily the edge of it. Arden said at news conference, meanwhile, in nearby Australia, residents are entering the ninth week of lockdown that had initially been scheduled for two weeks

and many of the hardest hits. Parts of the city, NBC reports, military personnel, Rome districts and authorities issue finds up to $3,700 to individuals breaking lockdown orders, economists at the RAND Corporation and the University of Southern California reached a similar conclusion regarding the effectiveness of shelter in place or the months later similar conclusion regarding the effectiveness of shelter in place

order months later we feel to find that shelter in place policy save the lives to author reports we feel to find that countries are u.s. states that implemented s.i.p. policies statement stay in place policies earlier in which the s.i.p. policies had no longer to operate had slower excess death than other countries u.s. states that slower to implement s.i.p. policies anyways it's craziness kids are out there by the

beach they're getting fine a thousand dollar fines for the parents did you see that the man hunt they had for those kids yet the one guy that was on two helicopters like one guy was in the elevator and they said watch this man cough twice three times if you see this man report him to nation he is cold man hunt this guy left that house to get our Australian friend on the phone real quick is he yeah yeah hold him up do we have the phone to call him or no I think this is a very good call him up even if we get a couple minutes from this guy in Australia I told him we would be five people there's

people that are that are in their backyards getting the cops called on because they went into their backyard and they didn't have their mass on are in their backyards getting the cops called on them because they went into their back yard and they didn't have their Mass con in their own backyard who's snitching insanity man like you snitching no No, you know who this you know who it is I'm going to all my neighbors I'm like you snitch on me boy. I said this is connected. Is this how does this work? So this is connected is this how does this work? Oh? Why he's out of the country there's two rings He is in Australia He thought you were lily and he's not I thought he was in Australia, Kansas

I'm he's an American who's been living in Australia for kangaroo but the sleep is delicious tomorrow already enough He really is you've ever eaten kangaroo is delicious. I got two numbers I think it's midway. It really is. If you've ever eaten kangaroos, I got two numbers for this one. But this one doesn't work. Lean meat, baby. It's one.

You may want to hang out, buddy. That's one. You're still patient. Seven times, you're still waiting. Hang out. Different number. We'll see you again. Oh my gosh.

Skylet the phone ring seven times. Adam, I'm like, I think Casinos is like, one more round. No, no, one more time, one more time. One, four. The guy's going more round. No, no, one more time, one more time. One, four. The guy's going for a half already. Oh, good. Is that Australia thoughts? What time is it on?

What's he telling you when he talked and don't worry about? What time are you talking? Poor guy's getting arrested right now. He's getting arrested as we speak. OK, I'm going to go to the next story. Jake Paul passes test with split decision victory over Tyrone Woodley did anybody see the fight here no you know what you want it yeah what you think about it will you impress with him no but Jake you were not impressed with them no not all I would you think I think look

tyrone woolly's a is a beast yeah so I think Jake Paul is by the way do you think that was fixed? Any of it? Any of it? Any of it? No. I think he's fighting guys that are, I mean, time in Woolies maybe five, eight.

Jake Paul's not a small dude. We saw him when we were leaving the party that one night. It's six one legit, strong guy. I mean, his brother's an absolute beast. Low monster. Can we admit that the matchups that we're seeing? Yeah, he's like, I mean, he's like, when he fights a real boxer,

I think he's gonna get his ass whoop, but for now. But Pat, you brought up a good point, even though I didn't watch it. He's in shape. Got one eight rounds. He said, he's in a little movement. Yeah, and that's no joke. Like if you've ever like put gloves on.

Hardest thing. Hardest thing. It is tough for us. Here's the thing, here's my perspective on why it was fixed. Tell us. First, they didn't beat each other up really. So the whole thing was, I wrote, we'll go eight rounds, I'll prove that I can box

an entire eight rounds and then I'll move up. Cause if Jake Paul loses, then the, Well let me ask you one part that was sus where Woodley rocked them, had him up literally on the road, but here's a question though. And he didn't finish him off.

And he got a pro fight. Question for you. Have you seen Woodley's last five fights? No, I've not have you seen how Woodley fights. I know he's a striker, but have you ever seen a Res you seen Dana White's biggest frustration with Woodley's passive. Yeah, he's not aggressive. He's passive So tight the Dana White said this guy could be the face of UFC, okay, but he's passive He doesn't fight. He plays like point game. That's how he wants fights. That's not you sell out of crowd To nobody wants to see the the guy be like this. So he typically fights like that. That is his strategy That's how he's fought but to me

I've never said anything positive about Jake Paul's Boxing You know abilities. It's always the fact that these guys are great at getting attention. They're fantastic. I was there doing. I was impressed the fact that this guy could hang for eight rounds. Are you kidding me for 190 pound guy? Six one to be able to last eight rounds. It was impressive. Jake Paul, LeBron James, machine gun Kelly, Baker Mayfield, Odle Beck, all of the most annoying people in our zeitgeist are all centered in one place. Cleveland, Ohio, the mistake by the Malay, did a great show

there last year. There was multiple people on the meet and greet line that had teeth whittled down to spikes and face tattoos. How old are you? Or a white? It's come, we've come a long way from Drew Carrey Cleveland Ohio boy. This is Ohio I'm saying like you're thinking about moving there. Oh, yeah, what you're saying. Yeah, you got a feeling he likes that city It's it's the actual The Bay catches on fire I know I was called the mistake by the my the Malay Cleveland because they spelt it wrong There's an extra E that shouldn't be there.

Cleveland, yeah. So anyway, there's a little tasty tip. But there's a value for your question. How much longer are people just gonna tune in to this Jake Paul nonsense? It makes so much money. As long as he wants. So like he wins.

But nobody's watching to watch him win. People are watching to get his watch as asked. There is a community that's supporting this. But they're sure they're supporting the audience. There's 80% of the people who want to see get knocked out. Most of UFC wants to see him get knocked out. Yeah, most, and by the way, Woodley is the better fighter. Woodley just didn't capitalize on the opportunity that he had.

And secondly, if the referee would have done his job, right, that's a knockdown. Yeah, he knocked them out there. So that's one knock, so that needed to be recorded, but they didn't do it That's extra point it would have been 10-8 round still wouldn't made a difference two rounds one of the things that he did right is And old a strategy from a pernell Whitaker maybe no sugar The last 10 seconds. He knew how to score points. Yeah, Jake went and scored points the last 15-20 seconds That's what he did.

He was behind, he comes out, and that's the last thing you're gonna reference, not the referees. The judges remember is the last one. You know, but would you should have won the fight? He's happened after, like, so I saw a clip. Tattoo, you know, all this past. He's the king of the fuck boys. I mean, that's his whole appeal.

You know, Jake announced yesterday he retired. Oh, I know. You sawdup probably came in. You sawdup knocked him. He's like, Jake announced yesterday he retired. Oh, I know. Right. You saw it. Probably came in. You saw it. I'm retired. Is there any chance that I will not be peeing in any cup? Is there any chance that they were going to rematch?

That was not a thing. Oh, he did get the tattoo. If he got it, then you're not. No, I don't think he's not going to do it to piss him off. I don't think Jake's going to do the rematch because I don't think anybody cares for see those two fight Someone else fury little brother fury oh Tommy yeah, I'm a fury Everybody talking about that, but I mean the last name fury you do not want a box with a guy with a last name

But I mean, the last name Fury, you do not want a box with a guy with a last name Fury. They have issues. The gypsy kids. The gypsy kids. The gypsy kids. They destroy you as well, they destroy you. Is that his brother? Half brother, what is that guy?

A little brother. Brother? Yeah. Little brother. By the way, okay, Delta. Delta Airlines. You guys heard about what Delta did. If you're looking for a job they're hiring.

Delta Airlines announced that it's raising health insurance premiums for unvaccinated employees by $200 a month to cover higher COVID costs. So if you don't, if you didn't take the vaccine, they're raising the $200 that's a Delta Airlines CO ed bestane notified employees Wednesday that they will face a $200 monthly increases on their health insurance premium start November 1st. If they are unvaccinated against COVID-19, citing steep costs to cover employees who are hospitalized with the virus, unvaccinated, and employees will face other restrictions including indoor, masking, effective immediately, weekly COVID-19 tests, starting September 12,

the measures are the latest attempt by US Corporation to drive up COVID-19. Raise Delta Stop, short of and outright mandate like the arrival of United Airlines established earlier this month. The average hospital stay for COVID-19 has caused delta, $50,000 per person, best thing set in an employee memo. This search, search charge will be necessary to address the financial risk, the decision to not vaccinate is creating for our company. This terrifies me as a fat guy. I got to tell you the fact that they can turn around and say, oh, well, listen, man, you had a cheeseburger last week and you're B guy. I gotta tell you the fact that they can turn around and say, oh, well listen man, you had a cheeseburger last week and your BMI, I don't know.

It's higher health risks here. I mean this is insane. This is crazy. Can you imagine any other scenario where somebody was able to charge you more for being some shade of unhealthy? Can you imagine any scenario where you could restrict access to public goods and services because, well, you know, you're some shade of unhealthy. I don't know what to tell you. I don't know, man. Well, you are looking better these days. So something tells me that your premiums are going to go down and fly America. Yeah. And let's move on to the next.

Well, I probably might say we're never. I've seen these topics and stuff and where are we talking about health, health and wellness? Yeah, we just don't. None of this shit is on Twitter, Facebook, whatever. They're not saying it. They're just not saying it. They're not encouraging their employees to go to the gym. They're not encouraging, hey, fight attendance when you're checking in real late with these hotels.

Make sure they do have a facility in there for you to do your cardio or something. Hey, we have some healthier eating options and stuff like that. Hey, we have some immune booster pills or whatever it is. They're not talking about this. But why is this just a problem? Imagine being standing online for a club in Miami,

Adam wants to get in, but they got a blockchain of everybody you've been with and it's like, sorry Adam, you were exposed. They probably should sorry Adam You were exposed they probably should do that How's me they probably should have sorry you've been you've been exposed Nice club with your Dennis Rodman Jersey on brother Two One but two so anyway, but I want I'm saying is that did come on What what are we? What do we stop it man? What are we stop before Kobe? What do we stop in here? How?

What are you talking about man like you're only talking about that? They're not talking about heart disease We talk about the hell your father your father had hard issues, right? You imagine that they're like well, sorry Patrick We love to sell you this doodoo, but you have a history of your heart disease and your family and I think you can conquer out in any second, can't have you on the road, go on 110, buddy.

So I'm gonna have to give you this, this vest for 135. I gotta give you this vest for Pat, is that okay? That's what you medically qualify for. That's for four. It's insanity. No, that's where you help fast, you want? Was that how?

167. Oh us? Yeah. No, we went 165 insane hell. Yeah, we went 165 In a Bentley it's crazy at and a four what four or five freeway insane Which by the way I don't feel like but this is why all this stuff is full-carned shirts premiums should be higher I trust him driving one six maybe listen right more than I, than I trust some 85 year old with Florida plates driving 35. Like this stuff does the word, bro. When I drive here on one in the morning, it could be 15 minutes, it could be 35 minutes.

By the way, it's depending on who's in the left leg. We're at Greenwich, we're walking in and the guy comes up and everyone's wearing a mask. And I said, listen, we are from Florida. We have no idea what's going on. What's the situation here with mask? He says, no, you know, you can wear it, but look, you guys are vaccinated, you're fine.

He has no clue we're vaccinated. He says, look, you guys are here. I know you guys are vaccinated, you're fine. But go, okay, cool. Sounds good. I got in guess what you just said. I remember that. That's good.

Very weird what happens. Yeah, yeah, just go ahead and go in. And we went to the other restaurant that girls like, you don't have a mask on. Please put your mask on. I said, you're the first person I made us wear masks. Yeah, I don't like this stuff either You should see what they're doing in New York. I said yeah, I know that's why we live in Florida Just so you know, yeah, okay, and then we went on had our breakfast with Isaiah Thomas and Tom Tibb of those sitting right next to us nice

Which I have though The the only Michael Jordan's best friend I see the OG my hero. I forgot this is yeah, that's I say Thomas. That's this you kidding me. Yeah, how far was he sitting like and this is I think I tell Sam. I'm like this guy sitting next was his name is I say Thomas Sam goes like this Don't be like looking at him for like two minutes. I'm like what is the matter with you? Little did Pat know, Isaiah Thomas. I said to him, I said, by the way, I loved you in last dance. I would have geeked out if I saw this dance.

I loved you in the last dance. Anyway, before we go, we got a big week this week. You want to set us up for that? Vault, we got the vault here. Can I wait to see everybody? We're going to have a packed house here. It starts tomorrow night with the CO session. Obviously, we're going to have Billy Bean there.

We're going to have Dustin Portiere, which is, he's a number one guy right now. Well, that's what I hear. Can I see this? Gary Kasperov will have, who else am I missing out? Am I missing somebody else? Billy Bean? Billy Bean.

Phil Heath. We'll have their end on top of that. Outside of Phil Heath. No, I mean, first in that, so I was missing out. Am I missing somebody else? Billy Bean, Billy Bean, Phil Heath. We'll have their end on top of that outside of Phil Heath. No, I mean, first thing I saw was Phil Heath. How about this guy right here? And it's just gonna be there in a while. Oh, no, no, maybe they'll think you're that guy. Minute confirmation, Greg Shere from Oak Tree Capital Management. Managing director will be there.

I'll be interviewing him. Wow. He's Oak Tree Capital Management has $155 billion of assets under management We're gonna talk about how to raise money. Can I wait to see everybody here in Miami? You're gonna see the entire camp here at the diplomat and then we're doing an after party at the house with a select few people Let's go. But we were thinking about having this this this you know the ball with the girl that was gonna be dancing in it Very provocative and I'm like this and are we doing that for in front of a hundred people?

It's kind of a little awkward Dylan comes at that what's that girl doing us a Dylan go to sleep I go to sleep I like the way that's it what's that before we go I hope you're gonna be stock is

anything you but yeah man we're thinking of the big about you brother best doc of course by the way it folks if you're listening since we talked about it's

please pray for Bistock Dawson prayers But the legit type of for Bistock and Kai did say there may be some associate Having said that I have a wonderful week. We will do this again next week everybody take care. Bye bye bye bye we will do this again next week everybody take care bye bye bye bye bye