PBD Podcast - GOP Presidential Debate Recap | PBD Podcast | Ep. 325

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Starting point is 00:01:21 You look what I've become. I'm the entrepreneur. All right, here we go. Podcast episode three, 25. Let me kind of get into a couple of things that happened last. We were at the GOP debate last night. Yeah, it was great. We went with a whole crew. It was the four of us. It was in Miami.

Starting point is 00:01:40 I thought it was the best set they had. Out of every single one of them, we've been to Milwaukee, Ronald Reagan. We will not be at the Bama one, but we were in Miami. I thought it was the best set they had out of every single one of them. We've been to Milwaukee, Ronald Reagan. We will not be at the Bama one, but we were at the... Why not? Why not? The set was insane. And what the media is saying was very different than what the vibe was when you were there.

Starting point is 00:02:00 Matter of fact, I ran a poll last night, okay? We got a bunch of other stories we'll talk about here, but I ran a poll last night, okay? We got a bunch of other stories we'll talk about here, but I ran a poll last night on who won the debate. Now, when you look at this poll, this is a 144,000 votes. So it's not like it's 500 votes. It's not 5,000 votes. It's not 50,000 votes.

Starting point is 00:02:18 It's a good amount of people to measure it with. 144,000. It's a very good sample size. Sample size. Tim 144,000. That's a very good sample size. Sample size. Tim Scott, 2.2, Nikki Haley, 4.4, Ron DeSantis, 10.3, Vivek came out 83% on this poll. OK. Fine.

Starting point is 00:02:38 So you look at this, you're like, OK, is this exactly how the audience saw it as well? Rob, if you can pull up the opening, Vivex opening on how he, you know, just absolutely shook the place up with his opening statement and what he said, if he can just find out while you're doing that, I wanna read my recap from what I had from being at this debate.

Starting point is 00:03:03 Hang on one second, Rob, let me find this here. Yeah, if you can, first I'll play this clip and then we'll go through the game. Play this clip. Watch this. Why should you be the nominee and not the former president? I think there's something deeper going on in the Republican Party here.

Starting point is 00:03:17 And I am upset about what happened last night. Wait for it. We've become a party of losers at the end of the day. It was a cancer, the Republican establishment. Let's speak the truth. I mean, since Ronald McDonald took over, as chairwoman of the RNC in 2017, we have lost 2018, 2020, 2022, no red wave that never came.

Starting point is 00:03:35 We got trounced last night in 2023. And I think that we have to have accountability in our party. For that matter, Ron, if you want to come on stage tonight, you want to look the GOP voters in the eye and tell them you resign, I will turn over my yield my time to you. And frankly, look, the people that are cheering for losing in the Republican Party. Think about who's moderating this debate.

Starting point is 00:03:56 This should be Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, and Elon Musk. We'd have 10 times the viewership, asking questions that GOP primary voters actually care about and bring in more people into our part. Getting the Democrats, and we've got Christian Walker here. Getting the Democrats would actually hire Greg Gutfeld, to toast a democratic debate. They wouldn't do it. And so the fact of the matter is, I mean, Christian, I'm going to use this time, because it's actually about you in the media, and the corrupt media establishment,

Starting point is 00:04:22 ask you the Trump-Russia collusion hoax that you pushed on this network for years. Was that real or was that Hillary Clinton made up disinformation? Answer the question, go. Yeah. Oh, look at her face. Look at her face. This is how we catch it.

Starting point is 00:04:36 Yeah, I don't want to be here. We need accountability because this media rigged the 2016 election. They rigged the 2020 election with a hundred Biden laptop story. It's around the corner. And they're going to rig this election. Your time 2016 election. They rigged the 2020 election with a hundred Biden laptop story. And they're gonna rig this election. Your time is up. Accountability.

Starting point is 00:04:48 Let me turn to Governor Krusty. Okay, I can pause right there. Wow. When he gave that speech, the place went insane. Is that fair to say? They've done. Yeah, he went straight, savage mode off top. We were sitting with the folks at Rumble.

Starting point is 00:05:02 To our right was the Haley Camp. Haley Camp was, you would know it's a Haley camp. Anytime Haley said anything, they would scream off the top of their lungs. The Santos was on the other side and they had different folks out there. Now here's the thing. The whole thing, if you go a little lower,

Starting point is 00:05:15 I think he is speaking to Ron. If you go a little lower, that right after the debate was done, Ronna McDaniel's story came out that she called him an asshole or something. If you want, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Starting point is 00:05:32 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, whatever was some kind of a statement being said, not as a people in that area heard what she had to say. So that's pretty intense right there, okay? On what happened. Now, my thoughts, and then we're going to conversations and different things. Here's what I think happened. If you go to my tweet, Rob, yeah, there you go. He's not going to get a scent from us.

Starting point is 00:05:59 Look at this. He's an asshole. Total asshole. He will not get a scent from us. She said this at the debate, and others heard her saying this. Okay, so he not only goes after the establishment R&C, okay, Ronald McDaniel, went after establishment mainstream media, okay, calling out in their face, go, right? And afterwards he went after Haley, he went after a bunch of different people

Starting point is 00:06:27 he went after. And at the same time he was yet a synergist. So for me to winner at the top was Vivek. Not only was the unanimous winner, if you can go to the tweet, my GOP breakdown, if you can break it, go to one of the tweets, you'll see it. I think it's the one that reads the whole thing. Yeah, go to it right there, if you can show more. So not only was Vivek the unanimous winner, Star was born today. He shined, he was loose. He was comfortable yet intense. He even gave credit to the Santos

Starting point is 00:06:50 and Tim Scott multiple times. A good balance between a fighter leader and a synergist. He kept going on to the Santos on each break. You guys may have not seen this, but while we're there, the every single, there was three breaks, every break, Vivek went to the Santas and spoke to him for 90 seconds. At a three and a half minute break

Starting point is 00:07:10 they had, he would speak to the Santas until the Santas would walk away. It was a sign of being a synergist. He kept giving different perspectives, changing definitions of overdose to terrorist poisoning. When they talked about fentanyl and you know all these other things Rob, if you can go a little lower with that he was so captivating that if you watch the replay you'd notice even his opponents were impressed with them His opponents were watching him now the Santas Last week when the Santas was on our podcast. It was the highest score. He got off searches on Google If you can bring that up. I don't know if you saw the data or not. I'll go to you right now.

Starting point is 00:07:45 Does the the Sanders camp know that? I'm sure Brian is a sharp guy. He's a sharp guy. He knows data. Last week when he was on, if you go to his Google score, Brandon sent it to you. Not this was not this. Is that the one? What date is that? That is the one. No, that's not the one because that's all three. If you just go to the one when he was on the debate, it's not working. If you just go to the one where he was on the debate, it's not working if you just press retweet, refresh it.

Starting point is 00:08:11 Now that's the debate. Go back to the other one, then it's the other one, Rob. Yeah, look at this one. Highest score, look where Ron goes. Dengal. At the high, he hits the hundred mark. He was one of the most trending words on all of Google. So look at this blue being a hey,

Starting point is 00:08:27 and a red as Vivek for that entire two weeks. Vivek was rarely being Googled, but after our podcast that's the day, he was here on October 30th, boom, on fire. That's awesome. So go back to the tweet. So the census for me, believe it or not, was the most poised I've seen him.

Starting point is 00:08:44 I thought he was the most comfortable he's been. He's seen presidential. He was even funny and lucetimes. And I actually liked listening to his perspective, you know, in the santa. I thought I had a three-day basis. Was the best one. Haley was favorite to win, in my opinion. But she seemed a little rattled and upset. She even called him a scum. I mean, the guy didn't say anything to you, but the fact that your daughter's on TikTok. And why are you calling him a scum? It's a valid question he's asking.

Starting point is 00:09:13 It's as if she came with an agenda and Vivek disrupted her. Like you have a game plan for your game, and the opponent completely throws you off your game plan. I think Vivek did that to her. She's by far the best at giving data, but she was a bit off yesterday. The mainstream media want to agree with me on that. Christy didn't call out Vivek or anyone else, like he did in the first two debates.

Starting point is 00:09:32 It's as if he wants to potentially go and back somebody up so he didn't want to piss anybody else off. This was probably his last debate. Tim Scott got the most speaking time out of everybody. I even said right there, Tim Scott got a ton of speaking time, but I found myself thinking, I'm at church instead of a debate,

Starting point is 00:09:49 seems like a very nice guy, but way too bland. And this was the best out of three debates at the moderators that okay. But yeah, so if you go to the media and see who was the winners and losers, guess what most websites will say the loser was VVET. Yeah, weird. What is it now weird? If you go to, okay, go to the loser of go to the

Starting point is 00:10:10 day, go to any one of them. Everybody has VVET as the loser. Winners and losers from the debate. Let's see what Hill's going to say. And the hills are pretty incredible source. Would you say who do they have as their winners and losers? Round the Sanctus, keep going. Do they have a categorized as a winner and a loser? Anyways, you talk, yeah, winner, if you hailey, right? You're just a scum. So they gave it to her. The Santis winner and then go to loser

Starting point is 00:10:35 all the way at the bottom, Donald Trump winner. Look at the first loser, keep going. Mixed loser number one. Yeah, like that's insane. One of these two most memorable moments of the night were both bad ones for him. The attack on Haley's daughter was a worse. And the misstep also seemed virtually guaranteed to earn the anonymity of suburban woman voters

Starting point is 00:10:57 whom the GOP badly needs to win. Okay. Thomas Wanney's other big moment came when he called Ukraine's president Vladimir Zelensky and Nazi. Okay. And I do remember it. But it's interesting how the media sees this versus everybody. So what was yours, Tom, when you were there last time,

Starting point is 00:11:14 who do you think was the winner? I thought that came out and showed himself very well. I thought America appreciates it when you walk out front and you depend your kids, especially if your kids, you know, are being unjustly accused. America admires those Armenian moms that went to the city school board meeting in Glendale, California. And I think there's a lot of Americans judged by, I did a small poll only at about 600 votes,

Starting point is 00:11:40 but it was the same thing. It was 90% for Vivek. I think he came out. He showed himself very, very well. And I thought he was the strong performer. And I really thought that Nikki Haley was really good coming up with the stats, pulling the stats out of her head and responding to points.

Starting point is 00:11:59 But she didn't look like poised and smooth doing it. Looked a little like office step, like a defender who's office step under the basket and are trying to catch up to the play. That's kind of the way I felt about her. And I agree with you. I thought DeSantis looked presidential and in the words of one of the three women at my house,

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Starting point is 00:13:39 were sleeping when he was speaking. And his two highlights when he talked about boys should play sports against boys. That's great. Um, Christie actually for a guy that we, when we were in California, he had good jokes and energy and he was taught Donald Duck and whatever. He was just kind of just lame. I don't know. Uh, Ron, I, we've said the same thing over and over and over and over against Ron. Great policy guy poised, get it a little bit higher tolerant person than you know with the boots and all that, but he just doesn't

Starting point is 00:14:09 have that it factor that risk. Nobody's like, oh shit, you know what, Ron said he just doesn't have it. No. Great governor. I just don't think he's ready for the world stage. Nikki poised confident just way to war hawkish for most people. I mean, she's ready to go to war in Taiwan with China. She's ready to go into Ukraine, Israel. She's ready. I mean, she's looking for fun. She wants it. But at the end of the day, I think we saw what Vivek did, came out the gates in the first debate, guns blazing. Second debate, when we were there, we're like, what happened to Vivek? This third debate, I don't know what got into him, I don't know who spoke to him, could have been PBD, I don't know. I think it was Pat. Homeboy said, I, bro, I'm just coming out savage mode.

Starting point is 00:14:52 Here's something interesting about Ron and McDaniel. So if you have no anything about the RNC, who was the previous chairman of the RNC? He was Ryan's previous. So he was aligned with Trump. He was a Trump guy. It was a chief of staff for six months of Trump's White House campaign He was feuding with scaring mochi and ban and he was out. Yeah previous to that was Michael steal He's now an MSMBC MSMBC contributor, but Ronna McDaniel. He basically looked at it She gave us speech at the beginning of the show. Yeah, do you remember that was her? Yeah, of course Here's the thing about her. Do you know what her maiden name is take a guess maiden name? Oh, she's a orange seat check Yes Made in name. She's a RNC chick. Yes. Bush. I won't even give it.

Starting point is 00:15:26 What? You're not bad. Close. Rana Romney McDaniel. Oh, she's from a Romney family. Did you know that? Mids. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:15:34 She's related to Mids. So she's establishment as it gets. Now, if we know anything about Vivek, my final point, homeboy's anti-establishment. He's smart. He's capable. He's opinionated. He's savvy, he'll show up anywhere, he showed up, foot planted in the middle of the RNC and was like, check this thing out and just went guns ablaze. So to me, he was undoubtedly the winner of the

Starting point is 00:15:57 night and it's no wonder that mainstream media has him as a loser. Oh, that's one. One Mitt Romney is her uncle. There it is. First of all, look at me bringing some value to the podcast. Anybody that knows you're good. I like that. Anybody that name and research, anybody that names her son is sporting equipment, Mitt, it's just whatever. But anybody will listen. Obviously Vivek. I mean, I'm not supposed to admit sports equipment, Mitt. You put your base on the man. You went to college. You don't know what a Mitt is. Tom, you're, you're a seriously. A guy. Geez. Thanks for thanks. Tom. By way back when I went college the vet came out like Mike Tyson first round

Starting point is 00:16:29 Knock out crap on everybody. He didn't do male female kid. He doesn't he doesn't care And I and I respected but I think pat right off the rip the fact that he's he called out The media. I didn't know how to Play in the fact that they went to Christie a lot and they went to Tim Scott a lot, right? But without Kristen, well, could her face that's a weird smile. She didn't know what to do. She was in she was shell shot.

Starting point is 00:16:52 But you know, you know, I saw the leg do he showed Trump and this is why they're all going to go off to him. That's why he's not winning on no leftist polls. He had that Trump added. But he's not winning on Republican polls. What was that thing that we just did? Fox didn't have him as the winner. Fox said he lost. To me, they're still all established.

Starting point is 00:17:09 Okay. They're all Nicky Haley, all them. Everything was war. Everything was everybody else first. Vivek put us first. And that's the same attitude as Trump. That's why they do not want anybody like that. He didn't put Russia first.

Starting point is 00:17:23 He didn't put you. You create. He didn't talk about it. It's nobody. No, Israel, no, that. He didn't put Russia first, he didn't put you. You create, he didn't talk about it. It's nobody, no, is you know, nobody. He said America first and that's why nope, he's not winning anywhere because you know this, Pat. You put us first and you're, you looked upon like you're, you're insane because we're supposed to love everybody except us.

Starting point is 00:17:38 So I got a question for you. So last night, Roberts with us, you know, Roberts always got a different lens. RO. Yeah, RO. So the entire time I'm like, why do they keep going to Tim Scott? And I kept turning around. I won't put them like the guys.

Starting point is 00:17:50 This guy on 2.0 he speaks too slow. Like it's like, we just noticed it upstairs, a Washington Mount 2.0 on YouTube. And it's like as if he's listening. Yeah. So can you show up the CNN numbers? Can you show up the CNN numbers? Check this out. Who spoke the most and the least? Okay.

Starting point is 00:18:07 The most last night was Tim Scott and then Haley and then Vivek and then the Santas and then Kristi. Okay. I understand Kristi. Why the hell would Tim Scott speak the most. So then Rob says maybe because NBC is doing it intentionally to make the show be so boring that Americans don't watch it. Okay. Maybe it was an intentional way of getting people, so I can't listen to this anymore, move away. Do you think NBC is that dumb to realize that in a business of capitalism,

Starting point is 00:18:44 if your sponsors that are paying you millions of dollars don't get a lot of eyeballs, are going to be okay with you giving it to the person like what the audience wants to see a fight between Haley and Vivek, put the top three, the top three should have been who? Haley, the Santa San Vivek. No, no, no. Them Scott should be all the way at the bottom, even below Christie. I'm sure. Is where he should have been. I agree. Do you think be all the way at the bottom, even below Christie. I'm sure.

Starting point is 00:19:05 Is where he should have been. I agree. Do you think there was any motives in them giving him Scott the most eyeballs? Absolutely, because I don't think the producers and the political writers and the political commentators and Lester hold himself. I don't think they give a rip on this particular show what the corporate guys are looking at in terms of ad dollars. They're gonna promote it, they're gonna get the best viewership they can, but if they, I think

Starting point is 00:19:29 if they detect momentum in that show, they will go away from the momentum. And I felt like, didn't it feel like that after seven minutes, they kind of pulled away from the veck? And they also said, also, unlike other debates, if someone says your name or makes an accusation, you do not get an automatic 30 seconds. Remember that? They did say they were beginning. They were saying that almost trying to kind of

Starting point is 00:19:53 control the flow. And so I think they absolutely game did a little bit. I agree 100%. And like Brandon was talking about polls, Pat, I don't listen to any polls. The same polls that had Hillary at 99% Pat you're a Democrat right now you're a registered Democrat lifelong Trump hating but it's gonna be tough. Yeah, I don't think I'm okay

Starting point is 00:20:13 So Pat you saw this debate in that lens as a Democrat out of everybody here. Who would you want if you had to pick? If you if you had to be like all right, I'll deal with this so you want a weak team to play in the Super Bowl Well, that basically what i'm saying is that because they know about like by the whatever christie would be my number one yeah christmas be one because he hates trump and i if i'm a democrat i want to hear anybody that's the trashing trump the most it's him then who i would probably want to hear is hailey because she's at least a

Starting point is 00:20:41 woman so and her position on pro-life pro-choice is the best one amongst everybody. Then I would probably listen to Tim Scott. Then I would probably listen to the Santas and Vivek would be the most annoying person on that stage if I'm a Democrat. Yeah, 100%. And then, yes or no?

Starting point is 00:20:57 Yeah, 100, 1000%. 1000%. I would fully agree with you. I would just swap Vivek and the Santas. I don't think Democrats have any love for DeSantis. Well, are you don't think so? I think that's six months of worship. I think that's six week abortion.

Starting point is 00:21:09 That don't just not put Vivek at the top is because Democrats can't stand capitalists. Yeah. Made your own money, calling out Pimbole shit, anti-establishment. DeSantis didn't even, that they won't be at them on the podcast. I said, look, you're like a hybrid. Some people think your establishment, you know,

Starting point is 00:21:25 and that's kind of where you are. He didn't really correct me. And even in my intro, he corrected me twice. So that is the one area he didn't correct me about establishment. You just kind of let that one go. You were going to say something to him. Yeah, I think with the Democrats don't want, they do not want successful people of color.

Starting point is 00:21:42 They want entitled people of color. Full stop. They don't want successful people of color. They want entitled people of color. Full stop. They don't want successful people of color. No, they don't want to go against Vivek. Vivek becomes a symbol. That's not a no. Yeah. Vivek becomes exactly what they don't want. You know, people who are Democrats who were just there casually haven't really thought it over. Let's play this clip. Let's get the economy. Rob, play's play this clip. I'm not gonna be a con. Rob, play the clip of TikTok. Play this clip of TikTok. Check this out.

Starting point is 00:22:08 I just texted it to you. You should have it. This is the actual exchange between the two of them when, what do you call it? When Vivek calls out Nikki Haley's daughter and just look at Nikki Haley's eyes. She is not happy. Watch this. Go for it. Promise whammy. We've talked about this. You campaign on TikTok. How do you get to talk, man, if you use it? Well, I want to laugh at why Nikki Haley didn't answer your question, which is about looking at families in the eye. In the last debate, she made

Starting point is 00:22:41 front of me for actually joining TikTok while her own daughter was actually using the app for a long time so you might wanna take care of your family first. Leave my daughter out of your point. My daughter, the next generation of Americans are using it. And that's actually the point. Yeah, versus the profit. She would have bombed those bunkers.

Starting point is 00:22:58 There's the truth. Your just answer is actually to say that we're just gonna ban money after. We gotta go further. We have to ban any US company actually transferring US data to the Chinese. Here's a story. Most people don't know. Airbnb hands over US user data to the CCP. Now that's a US owned company. So this is the problem when you have Republicans that temporarily go the way the winds blow and now it's popular to talk tough on China when she was UN ambassador, called them literally her words not my our

Starting point is 00:23:28 great friend. You can't be fair whether fans of the right policy get to the root cause, even the US companies in Silicon Valley are regularly doing it. Cut the virtue signaling. The fact of the matter is Democrats are on TikTok today, the only person, one of the few people who is putting up content the way the actual algorithms work, speaking for pro-Israel views or others, more Republicans will join it. And by the way, the US companies from turning over data to Chinese companies, that are really

Starting point is 00:23:56 the answer to the question. Go ahead, Vinnie. And think about it. You think of her daughter? What do you think? You think she's a child? No, she's 25 years old. It's not like she's a kid talking about my daughter. She's an adult and she's on it. And it's

Starting point is 00:24:09 all I mean, it's all good. But it's like, I don't mean like that. Like, I forget. Vinnie is checked this out. I assume that she had younger kids. I don't know why. But yeah, as soon as you he don't talk about my kid, you think it's an eight year old. That's watching people falling on by. She's like, she's an adult. It's a child, but she's still, you know, she's an adult. Meaning she doesn't have any right to tell her daughter what to do and not to do. She's 25 years old, you're doing the hell out of she wants.

Starting point is 00:24:30 But just at the end. Look at Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, you think he told him to smoke crack, maybe? Maybe. Maybe. But it's just, it's funny to see how one side thinks the winner is and what they're pushing on in it. I'm going to show you guys what New York Times did

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Starting point is 00:26:00 This is New York Times. This just tells you like how they're doing this and how they're giving credit to who and who they don't like. Obviously, New York Times, who do you think they picked as the winner? New York Times? New York Times. New York Times. Who do you think they picked as the winner? New York Times are giving like a Chris Christie the winner. I would say Ron Ron that's I'm not going to say anything because I read it. Okay, so let's show this Rob. Let's show this Rob. What do you think? I'll go wrong. What do you think? I said Christie.

Starting point is 00:26:27 He says Christie. You say, no. Okay, who do you think they have last? Vivek. Okay, I want you to see this. Rob, is it pulling up or no? It's not okay. Let me do it this way here for you to see it

Starting point is 00:26:38 because it's very, very interesting to me. How nobody picked this guy and they straight up are because, now here's the other question you got to ask because it's easy to be like, wow, you know, they're idiots and they're establishment and all this other stuff. There's many times like, you know, these guys are not saying Trump's not the winner.

Starting point is 00:26:59 Okay, look at that, New York Times right there. Okay. Hey, winner, then they have have it's from right to left. So you see the 10 on the bottom is that did better. Yeah. So Haley's first, then it's the Santas, then it's Christy, then Tim Scott last Vivek. They gave him a two.

Starting point is 00:27:14 Who they gave him a two. Who do you think's doing this poll? Up New York, New York, this is a freaking leftist, but that's not the point. The same people have Trump all the way as the winner Meaning it's not even cool even CNN is like look. This is not even a race Trump's got a 40 plus point lead All these other guys are fighting for the silver medal. Why is VVEC last?

Starting point is 00:27:37 Why top? What up? Why is VVEC last on these polls? F-E-A-R Why is Vivek glass on these poles? F-E-A-R. Fear. I believe that they, that is the kind of snap and gumption that they don't want to face. And yeah, being honest.

Starting point is 00:27:53 I honestly believe that that is the, I think they see in that little bits of thing. Remember, the big surprises that have come out, we've only had one. So in my lifetime, actually I was barely born when Kennedy was elected, but I have been reading that there hasn't been a surprise candidate the way John Kennedy was

Starting point is 00:28:15 until Barack Obama. And I think that some people watching, you're thinking, man, this is the kind of guy that could be a surprise, and they don't want anything to do with it. I'm petting about it. The two things, the main things that I took away from him too, watching or thinking, man, this is the kind of guy that could be a surprise. And they don't want anything to do with it. And Pat, think about it. The two things, the main things that I took away from him too, he's 38 years old, okay? Let's say, obviously, let's say Trump wins.

Starting point is 00:28:33 He'll be 42, the next time comes around. He's anti-China, he wants to hold China accountable. And guess what, he's the only one that was anti-war. No, everybody else on that stage was like, we got to get involved in this. We got to go to everybody wanted to fight because that's where the money is at. Is there any money in peace? Do you think by the next election that China moves on Taiwan? By the next one?

Starting point is 00:28:57 Yeah. In this year? Yeah. I think so. I think so. I like it. What? I had to say, but now you have a 49 year old guy who is right about that.

Starting point is 00:29:05 100%. So I think the fact that he's pro-America anti-war, he's a threat. Watch this. There's no money in peace. Watch this one. Watch this exchange. Go for it. The Republican Party is not that much better.

Starting point is 00:29:19 You have the likes of Nikki Haley, who stepped down from her time at the UN. Thank ruptured in debt was her family. Then she becomes a military contractor. She joins the board of Boeing and otherwise, and is now a multi-millionaire. So I think that that's wrong when Republicans do it or Democrats do it. That's the choice we face.

Starting point is 00:29:35 Do you want a leader from a different generation is going to put this country first? Or do you want Dick Cheney and three-inch heels? All right, Mr. Ross. We got two of them. Constantly. Oh, thank you. Senator. We got two of them. Oh. I'm trying to hear a son of a scoundrel. The fact of the matter.

Starting point is 00:29:49 Woo, we couldn't hear that. I didn't hear that last line right there. So he did say it. So he did say it. Three-inch heels with two. Well Pat, you know what I said? America first, and you cannot have that attitude here. You can't.

Starting point is 00:30:01 And by the way, can you find her response because she does respond to that. See if it's on the bottom of the tweet, Rob. Can you explain the response? Nobody can explain the response. I think anybody that's like, you know, like you're going to throw it. No, she said a weapon. Yeah, no, she said ammunition. So what is she going to throw up a shoe with it? Like I have a five in Saturday morning, but I use it as ammunition. Like a check let that while you ever been kicked by one of those five and she will know it's more.

Starting point is 00:30:31 Yeah, what do you mean? I've been kicked to the back. Why have you was on the floor and the guy that I was fighting his girlfriend kicked me in the back for no reason. No, I had to walk up and down my back. I had to kick her for that. Tom. Look, I think what you say say Tom, would have done this?

Starting point is 00:30:45 Hit a pay extra for the heel walk on the back. I said, I had to walk up and down my back, but I had to pay extra. Tom, I knew you were some kinky freaky white dude. Oh, no, you know. You know we have that, Rob, do you have that clip or no? Wait a minute, go for it. Here we go. I'd like to say there's five inch heels, and I don't wear them

Starting point is 00:31:01 unless you can run in them. What? That was a call out with the same. Two of you on screen. The second thing that I will say is, I wear heels, they're not for a fashion statement, they're for ammunition. What we need to be doing for a rock and cereal is...

Starting point is 00:31:16 If anybody can tell me what she meant by it, it's like, you know reading a certain section in scripture, you don't understand it, you're like, you go to Google, you're like, Translash, I still don't know what she meant by. You think she meant to say, uh, as a weapon, she says, watch what I'm going to do. You know how they say after school? I'll see you after school, after debate. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:31:33 Meet me after the bait. Yeah. I think she's just such a war hawk that the first thing on her mind is a fight is a war. It just battles. So she's like, heels. All right. That's a weapon. Really to go. So she goes to the war words, you know, guns tank subs ammunition Heels pulls him out on a sheet her contracting she made money. She was on Boeing and like he's he's giving stuff that you had no idea about that Just back to the veck real quick. He's like basically the young brown skinny Trump That's exactly and he's a lot more palatable than Trump is as far as the abrasiveness and I mean for you for you is

Starting point is 00:32:03 We love the crazy maniac all of a sudden We Vinnie you didn't like Trump four years ago, but okay, you came around. I didn't like Trump four years ago Yeah, you're not you weren't Trump socks of debate. It's cool. You're on maggots go I love you I'm gonna be honest inside you miss him Adam Adam I think secretly hold on hold on what they're I think secretly hold on hold on what they're in this heaven when he walked in Sir when he walked into the UFC when he walked into the UFC what did Adam turn into Adam was like man and look at this fight Oh

Starting point is 00:32:33 The best the best article here very insightful Nikki Haley stomp when debate moderate asks her to list some country she wouldn't invade He babalon be so good. He, he, he, he, Babylon be. That's so good. Oh, Canada. Yeah, exactly. I just, for anyone that hasn't been to a debate and seeing basically democracy work in front of you, it's actually amazing.

Starting point is 00:32:55 It was sick. It feels really cool to be in a thing like this and just mixing it up. We saw Mayor Suarez shout out to him. We saw Rubin, obviously the rumble guys. It's a really amazing feeling. It was great to see this. Like it's,'s and this was by far and away so much better than the California debate. That was a chit-chow. Like we could literally walk on stage.

Starting point is 00:33:12 Tom and I were on stage. Yeah, at the point. We changed the six to state. First of all, everyone. Matter of fact, if you look closely, you know, said, hi, did you remember your eyes? Can you imagine if you look closely, you guys are standing there, suited up to a new candidate. Yeah. So, sleep. No, this was so much more professional. It was so much more just,

Starting point is 00:33:33 could we have taken selfies and, could I not even close? We were taking selfies with Vec. I spoke to Chris Christie on the ass in California. What network? I ended Mike Pence's campaign with a viral tweet. We have a bigger hand than I thought. What network was doing that one, do you remember?

Starting point is 00:33:48 Because this is NBC. That was a Univision home. Oh, Univision did it as open border. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody get on state. Hey, it's okay. Come on.

Starting point is 00:33:58 Hey, what's going on? Hey, what's going on? Hey, come on man. Not good. And poor guy trying to start it. And you, the other one, it's him. Hey, what's going I'm going to be the poor guy trying to start it. You know what? Hey, what's the challenge? Are you serious?

Starting point is 00:34:07 These guys had snipers. This was NBC. And then you have to listen. Why don't we go to something like a little bit more lighter with what Hillary had to say here on the view. Okay. motivational rap. If you can play this, when she speaks, it's just a world.

Starting point is 00:34:21 He's all her voices like a soothing. By the way, which voice can you go with for four years? Rank it. Hillary Clinton, Kamala or Nikki Haley. You have to list one of those three voices could be the president that you have to listen to for four years. Is this the old Mary F. Kill game? I'm just curious.

Starting point is 00:34:36 I like which one is the least? I can't. To the one that you're okay with. I'll go. Haley Hillary Kamala. I cannot at least. Yeah. Least. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I, then I go the other way. Kamala Hillary, Haley. I canaley Hillary Kamala. I cannot. No, he said least. Yeah. Haley Hillary Kamala.

Starting point is 00:34:45 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I would rather die than listen to Hillary Clinton's voice than to be Kamala's cackle and then Nikki Haley III. Oh my God, just you saying that really bothers me? Sounds like a pole for Rob. I can be Haley doesn't have a, it's like that. He's so elected to the head. What'd you say? You're scum.

Starting point is 00:35:14 You're scum. Scum of the earth. Here, let's listen to a pleasant voice. Go ahead, Rob. People would get legitimately elected. No. And then they would try to do away with elections and do away with opposition and do away with a free press.

Starting point is 00:35:30 And you could see it in countries where, well, Hitler was duly elected, right? And so all of a sudden, somebody with those tendencies, so dictatorial, authoritarian tendencies would be like, oh, okay, we're gonna shut this down. We're gonna throw these people in jail. And they didn't usually telegraph that. Trump is telling us what he and Ted's to do.

Starting point is 00:35:54 Wow, and people believe her. Is it over? Well, he looked at her. Did he look at her? Wait a minute, didn't he look at her to debate and say, because you'd be in jail? Oh my God, that was put, hands down. That was one of the best moments in all of debates hands But it's like I don't Reagan had his moments when but that when Donald Trump when she was like you know It's awfully good that with not somebody like with the temperament of Donald Trump is in president United States

Starting point is 00:36:19 I'll keep you please hear this back. Please Can we hear it awfully good that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in our country. Because you'd be in jail. Secretary Clinton. Any turns around. I don't know. That was the moment where his fate was sealed

Starting point is 00:36:40 that they were going to throw his ass in jail. 100%. OK. Just know that. It's actually a good point. Yeah, that was it. That was it. Because when you start saying things like that to establish him in jail. 100% okay, just know that. That's actually a good point. Yeah, that was it. That was it. When you start saying things like that

Starting point is 00:36:47 to establish me in Hillary Clinton, believe me, they're gonna start digging up some things. Oh my God. By the way, as far as the, the common thing, look, Hillary, at least I would say she's smart. Now is she Machiavellian? Is she sinister? Is she up to no good?

Starting point is 00:37:01 She's not an idiot. She's the triple world's not already. She's not, Kamala is not smart enough to even be Machiavellian. Space. She slept her way to the top in California from what I hear as judge Joe Brown. I have. I really. We heard. He's actually the meme, right? The guy with the black bar isn't either me. Go ahead. Oh my gosh. Slay the holidays with real Canadian superststores PC Holiday Insiders Report. Serve Appies under $16, like PC Pellenta Fries, PC Cranberry, Bree Pace Tribites, and PC Eggplant Parmesan Espoly Attelle.

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Starting point is 00:38:10 Are we down on this question? Everybody's like, by the way, how many text messages did you get? Like super important message you have to see this open up now and you open it up. It's a guy with that black dude with the, and it's like, oh my mom, my mom, you can't be yourself.

Starting point is 00:38:22 I'm like, mom, what's your problem? Cause like it's funny, open email. You're gonna have to. Go, go, go., my mom, try to be tough. I'm like, mom, what's your problem? Cause I get's funny, open email. You're not saying that, man. I don't know what I, I don't know what I can add to that. Nothing. About three inches. Whoa. Hello.

Starting point is 00:38:35 Good. We were just talking about Kamala Hilli. I, I think it's, so you either have the unbearable or the Machiavellian or you get the Warhawk and I go with the Warhawk. You want the Warhawk? Yeah, not between Hayley and Clinton and Kamala. Yeah, you said the least you wanted. Who knows? Who knows what's gonna happen with, what is, what's Hillary promoting a book wrap

Starting point is 00:39:08 when she was on? What was she promoting? Was she promoting a documentary of, what was that? I'm not sure, let me take a little bit of a find out. Okay, I thought it was like a documentary of how Jolaine Maxx got killed. She's actually alive, I'm sorry,

Starting point is 00:39:21 I'm not mistaken, mistake. Yeah, Jolaine, I thought it was a, is Jolaine Maxxx? Future true, she is. She is a little alive. And a fun, my name is Miss State. Oh, she did. Yeah, I thought it was that. Is your landmackerel alive? She is. She is. She's in a fun fact patch. She's doing 20 years. They just had an article that she's complaining about moldy food.

Starting point is 00:39:31 But isn't it crazy though? Epstein arrested, you know, suicide it. And she's in jail forever. But what about all the clients? Are they not going to care about going after all these clients that were using all these underage people that they were having sex with? Are we not going to go after that list? What do you talk about? No, no, no, what I'm saying is bad. So they caught the sex trafficking king guy, the, you know, Epstein Island. He's gone, right? They arrested her. What about all the people that were their

Starting point is 00:39:57 clients? Are we not, are they not going to go after the black book? The book. Or did, I mean, there's a list by the lights logs. Yeah, well, are we not gonna go after the people that use their services? Who's we what do you mean America the government? I Mean I'm just waiting like worthy of rest. I know the Prince was his name. Was it Albert? Prince William Prince who's the one that got in trouble with the madrew Prince Andrew that's yeah And the queen was like you know what this point was Andy You know what this punishment was for being with the underage girl?

Starting point is 00:40:26 You're losing your royal privileges. People aren't gonna call you whatever in public. We still gotta go after those people. Check this out. Here's the CNN one where they're not gonna update, this is not the whole clip where he's talking, what's this girl's name on CNN? What's her name on CNN?

Starting point is 00:40:41 That's Dana Bash. Dana Bash on CNN. Dana Bash on CNN. And they're name? That's Dana Bash. Dana Bash. Dana Bash. Dana Bash. Dana Bash. Dana Bash. Dana Bash. Dana Bash. Dana Bash.

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Starting point is 00:40:58 Dana Bash. Dana Bash. Dana Bash. Dana Bash. Dana Bash. Dana Bash. Dana Bash. Dana Bash. Dana Bash. Dana Bash. Dana Bash. No, she's got her producer in the ear denying these things and spinning. And yeah, because he's talking about what, he's talking about Joe Biden. Because he basically said last night, Joe Biden, he goes, we're not stupid.

Starting point is 00:41:12 We all know, including the left, Joe Biden is not running. Just be honest, it's going to be Gavin Newsom, or he even said Michelle Obama at one point. Did he? This is it, Pat? This is the one. How many seconds is that now? Yeah, play this one, go ahead, it, Pat, this is the one. How many seconds is that now? Yeah, play this one, go, play this one, this is the one. But what I'm saying is as a Republican candidate, I can't just call out Democrats on their corruption.

Starting point is 00:41:32 I've called out the Hunter Biden corruption from Ukraine and the $5 million bride. Look at her, and I will continue to do that. I'll call it as a Republican. There's no evidence to support. Yes, there is. There's no evidence to support the five. Disappointed he was paid a $5 million bride from Perisma. Yeah, look, if he was, that's corruption. Okay.

Starting point is 00:41:45 She was. But I just want your small allocation where there's no evidence. There's literally a perfect. They'll be perfectly just talked about this on the air. Absolutely. There's a what what would you say? Here's what you say. What what proof did you have one for three and a half years? You said there's a hundred percent proof about Russia. Yeah. Well, she's like a fact. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:42:02 Go ahead. I go the other way to say what what proof you have it wasn't to bribe. Yeah, you dumb. Go ahead. Look, go ahead, Ra. And testimony, evidence to suggest it. You have US senators saying they've received information. Investigations are proceeding as we speak. But that is corruption in the Democratic Party that I have called out.

Starting point is 00:42:19 And I think it deserves to be called out to Republican Party as well. I've made it. No, I've not. I've got a lot of evidence. There's no evidence. I've got a lot of evidence. There's no evidence. There's no evidence. There's no evidence.

Starting point is 00:42:29 There's no evidence. No, I've not. There's no evidence. There's no evidence. There's no evidence. There's no evidence. There's no evidence. There's no evidence. There's no evidence. There's no evidence. There's no evidence. There's no evidence. There's no evidence. There's no evidence. There's no evidence. There's no evidence. There's people deserve to know. I did something early in this campaign that frankly people in both parties should be doing. I put out 20 years of tax returns.

Starting point is 00:42:48 I understand why people don't do it, but that's the kind of honesty we need in both parties. Well, he put 20 years out? No, his tax was paid for. Yeah, he put it out. And they were asking him the other day, hey, why'd you make $800,000? And you asked for a scholarship.

Starting point is 00:43:00 Why would you ask for a scholarship when you got an $800,000? He says, you ever worked in private in private equity ever worked in investment banking? You get your bonuses end of the year when I applied I didn't have any money. I didn't have the bonuses. Yeah, but the year before you made $200,000 and he's going to yeah, I made $200,000 you refer I didn't make 800,000 dollars, but he's just straight up openly talking about it. I love it.

Starting point is 00:43:19 By the way, you know his net worth allegedly six eight hundred million eight hundred million by age 38 dude. Yeah. But you know his net worth, allegedly, six, 800 million, 800 million. By age 38, dude. Yeah. So guys, a piece. There are so many reasons why the establishment would hate a guy like this. Young, confident, went to the schools they went to,

Starting point is 00:43:37 took the debate classes, knows exactly the game they play, has a zone money, doesn't need your money, doesn't need your endorsement, went to podcasts, didn't eat mainstream media, he went from podcast to mainstream media inviting him. It's an ideal candidate for the establishment to not like that. They think they've speaking the movie before with Obama and it makes him nervous. And speaking of establishment, Dana Bash, I mean, she's been, she's one of the faces of CNN.

Starting point is 00:44:02 By the way, you know, she was married to Jeremy Bash, that's what she got her name. Jeremy Bash was the chief of staff of the CIA. Well, initially this was in the early 2000s. Then she married John King, who's one of the more politically savvy guys on CNN. She, now she co-hosts State of the Union with Jake Tapper. Yeah, she's a hack. She's not, I'm not going hack.

Starting point is 00:44:23 I'm just saying, she's part of the establishment. She's an awesome establishment hack. Bro, for her to cut them off, like at this point, it's completely obvious what Hunter and Joe Biden were doing. And if you try to eat, like, she's cutting them off because she doesn't want the words to come out of his mouth. We're not stupid. They just sense the penis for Hunter, his brother, and one other guy about, but again, nothing's

Starting point is 00:44:43 going to happen. But the fact brings up a really good point is that you can have anybody host this NBC debate and you go with Lester Holdt, okay, he's kind of vanilla, I mean, oddly enough, even though he's black. And then you have Kristen Wilker. So I mean, he does bring up a very good point that you could, like with the DNC,

Starting point is 00:45:04 ever have Greg gut failed or Hannity or talker ever host one of their debates. So I guess, you know, main, this is, this isn't even cable. This isn't CNN. This is MBC. This is as legacy mainstream media as it gets to host the RNC. Interesting. How much you think, how much you think this format is going to be changed in the next four eight 12 years or do you think 12 years from now still going to be the same thing? Oh, I'm fully convinced it's going to change in how long in four eight or 12 years. I would say four years might be a little too soon. I would say in the next eight to 10 years, it's going to change the one. I changed the one. Well, look, if you look at it now, who was the broadcasting partner streaming

Starting point is 00:45:44 partner? It was Rumble? Yeah. Rumble. We sat next to Chris and the whole Rumble team, shout it out to those guys. If you told me four years ago, Rumble would be broadcasting the RNC, I'd be here out of your mind with how's Rumble? But things are changing, so I think four years

Starting point is 00:45:58 it could be, I think they happen that quickly. I think two things you're gonna change in four years. I think you're gonna see an evolution of the moderators. I think, and not because Vivek is suggesting it, but because people on podcasts are demanding it. I think you're going to see moderators change. I'd like to see you moderate. I'd like to see you go ahead and moderate.

Starting point is 00:46:16 I'd like to see Tucker moderate. I'd like to see a series. So I think moderators are going to change because people are demanding it, especially the people who are paying test podcasts. Number one series. So I think moderators are going to change because people are demanding it, especially the people who are paying tests, podcasts. Number one, number two, I think it's going to change is I think the timing and the, and the venues. This is pure establishment. You walk in there and there's everybody from the RNC, everybody from the high end donors. I want to see bigger venues for more regular

Starting point is 00:46:41 Americans can get in the door. And I think you're going to see that change next time. Those are my two predictions. Check this out right here. I've just pulled it up. News Nation anchor Elizabeth Vargas and talk show host Megan Kelly will be demotor raiders at December 6th in Alabama. And who's that who's free? Who's the other one? Pat Washington. He can't get out of there. Eliana Johnson. Washington free beacon is a it's a very old but very small newspaper. Oh, you well I mean because make all these covers oddly enough politics free women Not a man not a single man as the moderator. That's so sexist. I don't think I'm gonna be able to watch it I just ridiculous. So you so you really think they're gonna go away from this this is the only way they're gonna go away from this

Starting point is 00:47:19 Here's what I think the only way they're gonna get away from this format is Here's what I think. The only way they're gonna get away from this format is if in the next four, eight years, there's such a massive disruption in cable news network with the kind of money they're making and big pharma ads going through where they can't afford to do it anymore that they're simply saying,

Starting point is 00:47:40 you know what, we gotta go digital, guess what? We're gonna do this, what we're gonna do, this way we're gonna do this way. But do you think it's gonna be still the two-second, two-minute answers, the one-minute answers, the 90-second type of answers, or do you think it's gonna be actually a long-form type of a debate?

Starting point is 00:47:56 Well, that's been debate format going back 150 years of college. So the origin of this was the disciplined debate. You know, you flip a coin, you draw straws and then you read a single question. You answer it, I rebut and then you get a follow up and you do that eloquently. If you go back and look at Kennedy and Nixon,

Starting point is 00:48:17 they did it very nicely. Even Carter, you know, and Reagan did it nicely. It got a little more out of hand, you know, Clinton's set, could term where people started interrupting each other, going a little crazy. But that's been like debate class 101. That's been the way we've taught debate a long time. Make your point, receive a rebuttal,

Starting point is 00:48:36 provide a follow up, and then let the audience or the professor decide. Meanwhile, while this is going on yesterday, Trump has given a speech a couple miles away from where the GOP debate was. In a high alia. High alia packed, jam packed place, and taking shots left and right.

Starting point is 00:48:55 I think Sarah Huckabee spoke there. I think Junior spoke there. He was at the event. And Junior made some, go ahead. He was funny. Junior made a couple comments about, you know, what did he say about the lipstick and something else as well?

Starting point is 00:49:10 He got lipstick on his collar, right? He got lipstick on his collar. He just went, my wife, it's okay. It's what he think Trump is thinking right now while he's watching this. You think Trump is sitting there, you know, thinking to himself, okay, let me see who this guy, Vivek's gonna be.

Starting point is 00:49:23 You think Trump at all even has any thoughts of Vivek or Haley as someone that he would bring on his team? That's a good question. Well, because Pat, is any right now with, uh, what's her name? Carrie Lake. He's with her and who else was he with? He was with two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two,

Starting point is 00:49:43 two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, Paul, it was there. But like, that's a very good question, Pat. I think watching this, like you said this yesterday too, he's watching everything. He's on, he keeps his foot to the fire and he's watching all these people. I think in that group, he's trying to see who's at the, Ron's not at the, none of them are threats, but I do think after seeing what he consistently hears

Starting point is 00:49:59 from Vivek and Vivek, never bashing him, kind of sounding like him. I think it's Vivek or Kare Kerry Lake to be like a vice president. Dude, can you imagine Trump and Vivek as president and vice president, and then just follow his lead, and then when Trump's gone for good, so I know Adam will be happy,

Starting point is 00:50:16 then it'll be eight years of Vivek. Now, that would be amazing. I don't see Vivek being a number two guy at this point. At this point, I mean, he has come out and clearly said he's not a number two guy. That's why he's running for the number one. But he won't, I think Kerry Lake is positioning herself as the next Mike Pence Trump, Sikafant, whatever he says. But in this situation, unless Trump gets kidnapped by aliens and he's gone, nobody's,

Starting point is 00:50:39 there's no, everybody's number two. So what is he, you're saying like Vivek will just kind of chill out on the political way. I just don't think he would be interested in being vice president He said that I'm just using his word as far as what Trump is focusing on I think there's in these three things in order number one rallies campaigns he loves that stuff. He's in highly is sweating his ass off Just having the time. He's like you love it. Lois in fall that number one number two I think is the legal drama that he's dealing with. I think that's number two. And a disinthird is the JV Republican candidate debates.

Starting point is 00:51:12 I don't think he's really focused on it. I think he knows he has it locked up unless the legal drama basically supersedes that. I agree with much of that. I think that if you narrow the field of VPs to only those who are on the stage last night, that Vivek's probably the only one that doesn't have so much broken glass that Trump wouldn't select them. Vivek has never said one bad thing about Trump.

Starting point is 00:51:33 Correct, so of the four are on the stage. There's only Vivek, I think, is selectable, too much broken glass to everybody else. But then going beyond it, there's Kerry Lake. But honestly, I think the VP would be something. Trump is not, he is a pure alpha leader. He selects a number two because they tell him he has to. Oh, I saw Trump just runs, right? But sure, you need to have a vice president. All right,

Starting point is 00:51:58 I'll be right back. Yeah. Okay. I got one. He's fabulous. I'm going to see this guy. You know, not bad. I'm better, man. Bill, Bill, Bill, still number one. He's fabulous. Jamie is going to see this guy. You know, not bad. Not bad, Tom. You're getting better, man. Bill's still number one, but I'm not bad. But I mean, seriously, I think that's, I think that's how Trump runs. And I think when it all comes to the end, he'll pick somebody. He'll think about the states. He'll take, you know, Don Jr., and other people kind of talking to him and he'll go.

Starting point is 00:52:23 But I'll tell you, the fact that there are that many people in the high lea and you, the DNC and the Democrats, they better hope that these legal things stick because they're not dropping them in the polls. You know, oh, he's down two points in the poll, two points, 60 days before Iowa. And Iowa is in the bag. That's like saying, I won the football game by 26th to set a 28.

Starting point is 00:52:47 It doesn't matter. You won and you said, next. But Tom, with the legal thing, we heard, I heard that he could still be in jail, felon, and still be the president. So what's all this, like, is there something in this legal proceedings that they could just grab one thing and say you're, you cannot run as a president?

Starting point is 00:53:04 First of all, it's gonna be guilty of a major major felony. Yeah, but and that's in the polls. He's going to that's how we like our kids. Yeah, but we're here. No, what I'm trying to say is it doesn't disqualify him from running for president. So what I'm saying is all this legal stuff that's happening is there's something either than a felony charge that sticks that can make him not run. I don't think there's anything that can make him not run. And unless they put him in a cell. No, there is something. It's still not putting him on the ballot

Starting point is 00:53:32 because you saw in Colorado that there was something they were contemplating. Minnesota, the left leaning state of Minnesota, they actually just approved him being on the ballot. So, they're doing all the everything they can to pull some shenanigans here. Didn't Superior Court flip that back an hour later? on the ballot. So, you know, they're doing all the everything they can to, you know, post some shenanigans here. Didn't superior court flip that back an hour later. Oh, did they? I thought that I just read the headline. I guess the sub headline. Did they flip it

Starting point is 00:53:54 again? What's it say, Rob? What's it say? Even if Trump is convicted with 91 felony counts 44 federal 47 state and stands charge, he is still qualified under the Constitution to run for and become the 47 president of the United, he is still qualified under the Constitution to run for and become the 47 president of the United States. If he is disqualified under section three, however, he doesn't get out of the starting gate. That section provides in pertin part that no person shall hold any office

Starting point is 00:54:18 under the United States who, having previously taken and oath as an officer of the United States to support the Constitution. She'll have engaged an insurrection or rebellion. Oh, that's what they're doing. Isn't it great? Or given aid or comfort to enemies, they're a...

Starting point is 00:54:32 Wow. So that is why they're used on the word insurrection. It's a correction. And a great, great point. And that's why when they knew it was coming and they were asking for National Guard, they were like, wait a minute, don't answer, let it go to shit because that's what they're gonna have to get them.

Starting point is 00:54:50 That's exactly why Pelosi and all of them didn't, they didn't get the National Guard. They told everybody, let them go let them go in. That's exactly why they're not even a rebellion. Now you see the corrupt FBI conspiracy theory. Wow, that's not a conspiracy. I don't like that word. No, no, no, no, no. That's the real thing. That's why people say, oh, it was the corrupt FBI. Yes. It's a conspiracy theory. Wow. It's not a conspiracy. I don't like that work. No, no, no, no.

Starting point is 00:55:06 That's not a theory. That's why people say, oh, it was the corrupt FBI because they wanted this. Yes. They wanted this, this, and this so they could. That's a great point. Label it, interact. BBD, I want to go back to the VP nomination

Starting point is 00:55:18 when you get a second. Go for it. I want to see who you think is most likely to be Trump's VP. Because, you know, if you're the CEO, you're the leader, you're the founder, you're the company, the VP is kind of like the what, the COO, they're kind of handling everyday operations, if you will.

Starting point is 00:55:33 Who do you think was best suited for that? Because if you look at Pence, up until literally the last day that Trump was president, Mike Pence was as boot-licking and as up Trump's brown nose as as it possibly gets meaning he was Playing his part. I don't mean that a negative way now everyone's off of Pence Who do you think that next person would be for Trump? Listen did this the only difference on on what what what I'm processing on how it would make the decision on this if you're a

Starting point is 00:56:01 If you're on your first term as a president Deep down inside, what's your biggest fear and embarrassment to be a one term president? You fear being a one term president because, you know, who was the last two, one term president, senior and Carter? I don't want to be okay. So you kind of go through that process, right? So what do you typically do on your first term? Not everything.

Starting point is 00:56:23 You do enough, but you don't do everything. Because you want to have a two-term, because most presidents who get elected to president, they're thinking legacy first. I don't know if Trump's thinking that, maybe he is, maybe he is not. But at the same time, I think a part of him, knowing the fact that he is a guy that wants to compete and wants to be the best, he probably didn't do everything on the first term. Now the second term, guess what you are on your second term. You don't give a shit on your second term.

Starting point is 00:56:49 You're gonna go do everything and anything you can in four years, and then be like, I'm done, somebody else come and take this thing over. And you want that person that takes you over to be one of your guys. Kind of like Obama wanted Biden because it's one of his guys, right? Like a flag, Harry. You wanted to be your guy one of his guys, right? Like a flag, Harry. You wanted to be your guy that you can call and you have a conversation with him and they call you, et cetera, et cetera.

Starting point is 00:57:10 So, I think the Pence was a strategy for the first one. I don't think it's gonna be the strategy for the second one that is gonna go find a person like Pence. I think second person's gotta be somebody that you think can take it for eight years. And that's why that eight years, it's got to be... Who's the Trump, Trump, you mean four?

Starting point is 00:57:28 No, no, the eight after your out. Oh, after, oh. The eight after your out. So his eight, you got to take somebody that's, a pen says not going to win. You can't pick a pen. Yeah. You know, if he picks a pen's type personality,

Starting point is 00:57:40 he's not thinking after eight years. He's thinking whoever's going to be the eight years is going to be somebody else that's going to come up that maybe isn't the person he picks as a VP. He's thinking whoever's gonna be the eight years is gonna be somebody else that's gonna come up that maybe isn't the person he picks as a VP. But I think that's a risk because I, I don't know if they're gonna let this guy be the president of any. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:57:57 And what I mean by that is even if he becomes the president, the way Trump is, Trump is the type of guy that wants to walk outside. He's type of guy that wants to walk outside. He's not hiding. He wants to be outside. He wants to golf. He wants to go do his thing. He wants to go out there and talk. He wants to go be around people. He wants to shake hands. He wants to go to dinners. He's not trying to avoid the limelight and live a life of fear. He's a target. If they fear this guy is going in and he's going to take a part

Starting point is 00:58:26 of their life away from them, these establishment type of people, they cannot let this guy be the president. Do you think 91 fell on accounts? Never in the history. 44 federal. Yeah. 47 states. Section three, using the word insurrection. The people who came up with this idea right here, do you know how brilliant they are? This is probably a lawyer,

Starting point is 00:58:47 like the one in Rutgers, that told whoever was in the 70s about the recal case on how to go take the mob, and then Rudy Giuliani goes, finds this lawyer, some lawyer contacted these guys, that hates, imagine how many thousands of liberal professors there's out there that hate,

Starting point is 00:59:04 Trump that our lawyers are saying this is how you get them. This is the word you have to use. This is the category of this. Keep saying the word insurrection. This is the only way we can get rid of them. Exactly the same way they went after certain people using that.

Starting point is 00:59:18 These guys were brilliant lawyers who hate them to wanna take this guy down. They know the 91, 44, 47, that's just purely marketing. It's not gonna do nothing. But the three, the section of three, that's the one. And the set up to make it go down pass, so they could go and every news, every news station in lockstep were like, oh my, Steve Smith's loser ass.

Starting point is 00:59:44 The worst day since 9-11 shut the hell up that same attitude is exactly that They made it seem like it was the end of the world was that one day of everybody going in there and protesting Unbelievable that's an amazing thing to see because now it makes all makes sense and they fell in the no whatever that word right there Insurrection Wow what a get that's not methodical. Those are lawyers going through all the fine print and somebody went, bingo, right there. I wouldn't put it as an insurrection. I think they used that quite tactfully.

Starting point is 01:00:15 I would still say it's not a great day. No, but it wasn't like a day of pride. How can you call insurrection? Nobody had a gun. Nobody, people were gonna hold on to Adam. You think people were gonna take over the government and like the next day be like, yeah, no.

Starting point is 01:00:30 No, no. Yeah, give me a, that one. That one. Insurrection to me, or rebellion, Adam, or rebellion they were upset, yeah, 100%. But insurrection, nobody was stabbing people and come on. Rob, when you were there that day, how was the weather?

Starting point is 01:00:42 How was the protest, fellas? It was a peaceful protest. That was the peaceful protest. Rob, actually tried to climb the day, how was the weather? How was the protest fellas? It was a peaceful protest. He's a pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro guys who he's going up against really are some smart, low-key, underground, faceless type of people that you don't know who they are, but they're sitting around reading everything, finding a way to take them down. And by the way, some dark credit going to those guys. Seriously.

Starting point is 01:01:20 Some real dark credit. So, by the way, the lawyer that's representing Trump,, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh Alina have that Alina Habasura I love I'm gonna show the suit I have a picture of my Michelad, there was 1984 1980, she'll be 39 years old she came from Iraq she came from Iraq she's from her parents the way she talks

Starting point is 01:01:54 she's a boss she's a stud good for you she's like a young she's married she's married not worried about that just say she's kind of looks like a young, um, the lawyer from what's upon you.

Starting point is 01:02:08 Johnny Depp's lawyer. She's like in the same hot. Yeah. Yeah. Those eyes right there will tell you I go ahead and sue my client. I sue my client. She would do to you. Go ahead.

Starting point is 01:02:18 How many of you thought Alina Alina? Alina Alina Alina. I love her. She's awesome. I guess. I'm going to get some red flags out there without language. She's awesome. All right, guys. I'm going to get some red flags out there with that language. She's good. Listen, I'm in the hunt for my friend Vincent Oshana. I'm looking for Vincent Oshana. We saw a few candidates yesterday for Vincent Oshana. Yeah, and you know, I realized too. I know you have a problem.

Starting point is 01:02:36 The waitress, the suji waitress. Republican women, conservative women, way hotter than left Democrat. I went to Mar-a-Lago, just the lawn. Everybody's happy and it was a moment. And it was the last time you went to a Democratic function. Like, what are those like? Just Chuck Schumer in the corner, like, everybody's just angry. Why is everybody angry?

Starting point is 01:02:56 I've actually never been, actually, I'm not sure. I went to a Hillary fundraiser in 2015. How was it? I was at a mansion in Miami that my buddy owned, so I'm gonna go. But we're the women, like how many women were there? It was all gay guys, it was amazing. You were there. Tom, you were there.

Starting point is 01:03:15 Oh my god, that's so funny. And just by the way, Rob, is there any way, Pack, he could just do that poll, just just which party, which conservative, we're probably gonna depend. I will say that they definitely make better wives. Why would you say that? just do that poll, just, just, which party, which conservative, we're probably gonna depend. I will say that they definitely make better wives. Why would you say that? The conservative, why would you say? Classier women make better wives.

Starting point is 01:03:31 I mean, I would say that most of the sex workers, only fans, party girls are, a lot of times hot liberals with daddy issues. Wow, good, wow. It's not like I've done any research on this, based on my calculation. I'm just very interested, but yeah, I'm sorry, but you keep going to church, bro You're gonna find your way every Sunday and proud of you Do you think Alabama the last debate matters or is it done done? I think after yesterday It's probably done for the following reasons

Starting point is 01:04:05 we are two weeks from Thanksgiving. And you look at all the history of the, we keep starting earlier and earlier on this political process. And so in two weeks of Thanksgiving, and then we get into bowl games and holiday. And a lot of things going on. The only major economic news that will come out, and that's just like a market crash or something, is going to be Black Friday. Everybody's going to be interested to see how revved up or how much dry powder did the

Starting point is 01:04:40 American consumers still have in terms of credit and ability to go spend on the black Friday and digital Monday? Whatever it is and You're just made of holiday cyber Yeah, cyber Monday and then all the sudden it's gonna be this can be January and so I don't think the next debate really matters I think we've narrowed it to four people and people saw those four people last night and you could argue that they were all as good as They're probably going to get I don't see you know what I mean I do say four people or five on stage. Oh lemonade someone on no because I I call Christy and Scott kind of the fourth you know what I mean that but they're both gone you mean if Christy eats

Starting point is 01:05:23 Scott, kind of the fourth, you know what I mean? But they're both gone. You mean if Christy eats Scott, that he's going to be all in one. By the way, did you get the references that Christy kept saying last night? He's like, yeah, those things are getting heavier and larger up here. And now it's like, you're really, and you know what food stamps? We have food stamps. We never had food. Exactly.

Starting point is 01:05:42 We just ate everything. That's why I think the next debate doesn't matter. It's we're about to get distracted by normal end of your stuff and unless the war gets much worse, you know, dear Lord, please know. Or if the economy really has something terrible happened, dear Lord, please know. Then we've got black Friday and then we're in the bowl games

Starting point is 01:06:00 or in the holiday and then America is gonna wake up two weeks before the Superbowl and it says, you know, honey, where's my voter registration card? We are going to vote and they're all going to wake up, but I think they've seen everything they're going to see. I don't see Haley any better than she was last last night and previous, even though she was a little rattled last night. And I see, I think you've seen DeSantis as good as presidential as poise as you're going to see him. Good answers. And then you've, we've seen Vivek

Starting point is 01:06:29 trying to be a uniter and then just getting back onto that and says, heck, I'm just going to be me. Okay. So Pat, let's say that debate doesn't just get one look and by the way, none of that matters because Trump's got a 25 point. I was just going to say that. And then just that's the punch line. Think about, by the way, great point, Tom. The next debate, the fourth debate, the last debate, I believe is what it is, is in Alabama on December 6th. So you went, you guys were in Milwaukee, you said it was sort of like,

Starting point is 01:06:57 it was in the middle of summer, it was fun, it was a party vibe. Then you go to California, Reagan Library, amazing. Then you come to Miami, Adrian R Center, awesome, the weather was great, the vibe was great, and then right after Thanksgiving, you go to freaking Alabama, ain't nobody trying to go to Alabama.

Starting point is 01:07:13 So it's gonna be more people in the stadium down the street to Tuscaloosa than watching the debate. Because Trump's gonna do a rally there, probably would tell me Tomberville, I'm assuming. Or University of Alabama is playing from one of the four seeds in the college football. No, not this here. They already have two losses.

Starting point is 01:07:28 Yeah. And America is going to say, did you say college football playoffs? So, so Adam, like, and Tom, for all of us, I know it's still a year away, but let's just say God forbid, they play this Tom Foulery, no pun intended Tom. Tom Foulery, yeah. And Tom Foulery Tom. And Trump can't run. Trump's completely out.

Starting point is 01:07:46 Who does, who do they vote for? Who does the Republican party put number one out of all votes? Well, let you know. No, I'm saying, if you have the guess right now, who goes number one? Tim Scott. Well, I think, well, I think if the primary is right now, right now, no, no, Trump, zero Trump. If there is no Trump, no, Trump.

Starting point is 01:08:04 Well, that's, you know, the inheritance factor on that's zero Trump. If there is no Trump, no Trump. Wow, that's, you know, the inheritance factor on that's pretty big. You got to do some algebra on who inherits those votes. So DeSantis probably, I think it'll be a vague dog. What he just said is very important. Where is Maga gonna code? The fact that we the veck they would go to DeSantis. No, they would not. No way all the should I think after last night it would shock you how many of the angry bag of the vec go to the fact 100% I'm telling you guys don't sleep on him. Don't sleep on the vec bro, they're not going to run to say the monies. They're going for the vec. The vec was Donald Trump last night. He said the same stuff.

Starting point is 01:08:45 Anti-China no more war yelling at everybody. And by the way, by December, by December, you're also going to see probably both Scott and Christie concede their positions. And we're going to see an inheritance factor in the South Carolina, Iowa and New Hampshire poll. Yeah, but they're not they're inheriting one percent of the electorate. No, they're inheriting a ton. Why what do they got? What does Scott have?

Starting point is 01:09:07 He has two percent Christie's not even on there. What do you know? No, they're going to go five and a half percent up per play. And that's going to go to Trump. Trump would make a video supporting the same thing. What number? That's a 14 14 one Trump got a 40 to one half point lead. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:09:24 I he just run it up the score at this well. I'm talking right now. I wouldn't make a video from jail supporting Vivek and it'd be hilarious. Guys, can we just have a quick moment of sounds for my guy Doug Bergham? You got crossed over in a basketball game for this first. The first. Hang on, hang on. I got as a kill he's ripped off. Still showed off the second debate in a boot. Rob bigger than Ron DeSantis. He didn't make it to the bed.

Starting point is 01:09:44 Shout out to Doug. Rob in order to go in. And's and he didn't make it to the bed shout out Doug Robin in order to go it and there's this foot all the way to the bottom of the boot the Rob Tom Follower. I'm gonna say right here Doug Bergum ran to elevate his position because he wants to be secretary of agriculture That's a great call. Oh my god record that just keep that in the tank Thomas L Yeah, you really went on a limb right there, okay, so tomorrow tomorrow Great call. Oh my God. Record that. Just keep that in the tank. Thomas Ells. Yeah, you really went on a limb right there. No, no, no. So tomorrow, tomorrow, we can talk, talk, talk, but tomorrow we got Vivek here.

Starting point is 01:10:12 I cannot wait. Which is going to be fantastic. Tom, Vivek will be here tomorrow. Rob, we're confirmed with that or no. We're good to go as far as I'm aware. Okay, and it's going to be 9 a.m. It's going to go back to the morning time that we have with VEK. Lots to talk about.

Starting point is 01:10:28 If there's any questions you have, tweet at Patrick Bay. David, let me know what questions you have for him if you want to ask him any questions. He'll be with us tomorrow for full two hours. I got a lot of other questions I'm going to go through with him as well, business, you know, how he's seeing things going on.

Starting point is 01:10:44 The question you asked right now was a great question as well. What if Trump is not in it? What does he think mega voters are gonna go? Is he gonna pick up the mega voters? That'd be interesting to see. I think just seems to see what he says about potential cabinet members. If he's willing to go out on directional, who's your cabinet? He's got to select 11 people.

Starting point is 01:11:00 And he's gonna end up with a lot of insiders. He can't all be upset. It's be interesting to know what he thinks. Gang and also make a note of this December 6th at our club, 5990 live in Fort Lauderdale. I'll be doing a town hall with RFK, okay, with RFK 5990 live, what happened? Your point of fingers.

Starting point is 01:11:19 No, I'm saying that's the same date as the R&C debate. Yeah, wow. So December 6th, same day as the R&C debate. Yeah, wow. So December 6th, same day as the R&C debate, we're going to be doing the RFK town hall. Those of you that are VIP, that's all I saw that in it was you can't buy the VIPs, that's all that within the first couple hours. You'll be able to send questions, those who are at the

Starting point is 01:11:40 second part, if we don't have any questions to go to with the VIP, we'll come to you. If you haven't yet registered, go to 5990live.com. Again, go to 5990live.com VIPs are sold, but we still have a couple of tickets left on the other two. Having said that, we'll see you tomorrow with Vivek 9 a.m. Take care, everybody. Bye-bye.

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