PBD Podcast - Hantavirus Lockdowns + Fauci's DOJ Deadline | PBD #794

Episode Date: May 8, 2026

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana and Adam Sosnick break down Howard Lutnick’s reported Epstein-related testimony that's stirring new questions about who inside elite financial circles knew about a $1B+ trafficking operation—and what could surface next as pressure builds. Then: a hantavirus outbreak spreading across Arizona, New Mexico, and parts of California has the CDC on alert as rodent-driven infections rise and public health officials warn of higher fatality rates than COVID, while Dr. Anthony Fauci faces a looming DOJ deadline tied to ongoing investigations into pandemic-era decisions and testimony. ------✍️ FILL OUT THE PBD PODCAST SURVEY & GET $25 TO VTMERCH.COM: https://bit.ly/42dpShr🦁 THE VAULT 2026: AUG 31ST TO SEPT 1ST: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mZdLhD⁠⁠Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso ⁠⁠⁠⁠Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠🇰 KALSHI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!

Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm supposed to take sweet victory. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signs. Right here. You are a 101?

My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before. All right. All right, let me turn this song off that's been on repeat all morning. By the way, if you know who wrote this song, can you please? tell us because it's so confusing. Vinny's going to sing it for us. You know how it goes.

Hang on, hang on. Let me shazam, Vinny. You are the only one who rescued me. You know the silver night. You keep all my secrets. Go ahead, Vinny. There you go, ooh. Sorry, guys, I'm rusty.

I've been listening to this thing. When I tell you, Vinny, how many times have I listened to it? 500 times. No joke. And we still don't know who sings it. It's not on Shazam. No, it's not. It pulls up to take song.

Anyways, we have bigger issues to talk about. This is my... That's your thing, though, BPD. You like to listen to one song over. One song over and over again for hours. What was the Hall of Oates song that you kept going? Which one is it? Hollow Notes is a man eater?

No, no, it's the other one. What's the Hollow Notes song? Yeah, yeah, I know which one you're talking about. We listen to it a lot. Anyways, okay, stories to get into. Vinny's number one story, anti-virus. We got some stats to talk to you about this luxury cruise ship carrying 147 passengers and three dead, eight cases with a death rate.

I don't know what the percentage was. 38%. 38%. Yeah, CDC's responding. And Vinny's got some thoughts. Tom's got some thoughts. Adam's going to sit down one out. But we've got other stories that we're going to get into with Adam as well.

You got U.S. Iran exchanged some fire. Trump called it a love tap, you know, going back and forth. Who knows what's going on there? Report comes in for the last two days. A C-135 has been missing. for two days. CENTCOM hasn't said anything about it. Who was on it? Where is it at? I know the last report

we got is that it's in Qatar, but who knows what happened there. Iran hasn't said anything about it. US hasn't said anything about it, but we'll see. Obama took some shots on a podcast saying, hey, these people in the White House have too many side hustles. What do you do for a living, Doug?

You know, you're like a president or you're a lot of part-time businesses you're running. And by the way, lots of other shots, Colbert, Michelle Obama, even Dave Chappelle, got involved with this whole conversation saying what they have to say. Stefan Diggs will be one of the stories we have to address. He'll be the 10th one where his chef tried to assume for five. I've never seen anybody do a worse job that the judge finally choose her out and says,

answered the damn question. This is a criminal. And by the way, at the end, he was let go. If he didn't have those clips, he says, did you get slapped in the face? I did. And he got, you got slapped by the right hand? Yes. where did it slap you?

My right side of my cheek. And he's like, it's the left. You slap right. So did they slap like this? And he goes like this. Like a no look basketball hit. Bruce Leroy.

Bruce Lee Diggs is what it is. And then, you know, this whole thing with Amber, what do you call it, Blake Lively trying to ruin Justin Baldoni's life and all of us. And that's also wrapping up. So maybe some people are saying Blake Lively equals Amber Hurd. And then the other two stories that we got, Fauci,

The last day is Monday. He's got some thoughts. This is the last chance. Fouchi Countdown. They'll do something. A lot of people are saying nothing will happen by Monday to Fauci. So we'll see. Look Maxink.

We're getting into the look maxing. Tom was in a conversation. Yeah, no doubt about it. By the way, Tom was smashing his face today. And in L.A. Mayor race. L.A. Mayor race. Now it's getting so bad that Karen Bass is going after the communist socialist candidate. and Spencer Pratt is just, you know, he's doing great stuff with his back and forth.

And then Lutnik, did I say Lutnik Epstein? We'll get into that. He had something that happened yesterday. Even Comrie came out and said, look, there's some things that just don't add up. And in Tennessee redistricting is going to be a big story, big race, a big conversation that we'll have. And if we get a chance, we'll get into some of these other stories that is currently taking place. You know, the approval rating. I got a few other stories.

But we'll see. We'll see what it happened. as we're going through it. Now, in the interim, for those of you who did the survey, we sent another yesterday. Remember when I told you we're going to give another hour? 2,000 of you signed up. So now I think we're at 14,500 people that completed the survey.

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PBD to 3103-401-1-332, you'll get a chance to see the report. It's funny. Everybody we were talking to when we did this, they're like, you shouldn't do it. People at YouTube and Spotify. What if they say things? I'm like, that's exactly what we want.

And we want the exact feedback, and we'll have the conversation ourselves here as well. With that being said, let's get right into it. The first story I want to get into, Rob, is anti-virus. So, anti-virus, everybody's kind of minding their own business, and then we start seeing this clips again on ships. Hey, you know, this person died, that person died. And then the same guy, Tedros comes back up,

and people are like, wait a minute, that guy's back up again? Yes. What is really the headline of this story? A luxury cruise ship carrying 147 passengers sailing towards Canary Island with a confirmed on this anti-virus outbreak, on board three dead eight cases and the only known anti-virus strain that spreads person to person the World Health Organization has deployed an expert on board

shipping 2,500 diagnostic kits to five countries and says this is not the next COVID. They're already saying that up front to not scare the crap out of people. But with no approved vaccine, no approved treatment with a 38% kill rate, the world is paying attention. And by the way, the states that they're looking at, that they're literally following the people that were tied to it was Georgia, two residents monitored,

Arizona one resident flag by Arizona Department of Health and Services, California an undisclosed number of residents under CDC coordinator observation, but the CDC stated, again, this is important because we don't want to do fear porn here, and maybe others are going to be doing that. The risk to the American public at this time is extremely low. You know what's the scary part of that sentence? At this time, okay? So with that being said, Rob, if you got a couple of clips to play before I go to,

let's start off with Ted Roars, if you don't remember him. Man. He was the guy that was the director general of CDC, and here's what he had to say. Go for it, Rob. Eight cases have been reported, including three deaths. Five of the eight cases have been confirmed as hantavirus, and the other three are suspected. W.HO is aware of reports of other people with symptoms who may have had contact with one of the passengers. You can pause. It's just repeating what I said. So they confirm five out of the eight cases have been laboratory confirmed as a

and this virus. Three patients evacuated to Netherlands, one critically ill in an ICU in Africa. So Vinay, I'll come to you first. What are your thoughts with the story? Here we go again. And I really hope that America don't go all up in arms, but we have every right not to trust anybody, especially Mr. Tidros over here. Because there's another video, Pat, where he says, we really need this incident, this outbreak,

to show why the world needs a global entity that connects this. Okay, he says that he hopes this incident will make Argentina and the U.S. reconsidered. He didn't say that. Yes, he did. I'm literally quoting this. Reconsidered their decisions to withdraw from the hood. Because mind you, we withdrew in 2025, Rob, January, if I believe. He said the best immunity we have is solidarity.

Okay. And if that's not a threat, Argentina pulled out in March in 226. And then less than two months later, weird that a boat leaving from Argentina, Tina getting infected with this virus. And I'm sorry, I'm not that silver, what do they call it? The foil hat tinfoil. No, no, this is just the truth. And I don't know if you know this or not.

You know how it comes, how people get it from? Tin hat. Tin hat men. Not part of the tin hat group. I'm not from the tin hat group. You know how allegedly this thing contracts and how people get the hantavirus from rodent feces, sniffing rodent feces or ingesting it? Okay.

This is the one. And by the way, the one that you mentioned, the Andres Strain. Yeah, let me read that. that because I'm going to come to you because this is what Tom pointed out yesterday in the article. Argentine investigators now believe that a Dutch couple who was responsible for bringing the virus on board after picking it up from rodents when visiting a landfill during a bird watching tour in the city of Ushuaya days before the ship departed from Argentine port on March 20 at both husband and wife are now dead.

So they're saying it came from picking up this road. And now how did they know that story, Vinnie? You tell me, and he made a great point yesterday. What was the COVID one? Which part of it? The bat. The bat. It said, hey, it's a wet market.

They ate a bat that they picked up in the wet market in the middle of China. No, no, no. We've used that one already. We need something bigger. Hey, wait a minute. What about a Dutch couple like on a cruise ship? I like that because no one knows where Dutch is. That's a type of people it is out the country.

Yeah, well, we'll call them Dutch. And maybe they were bird watching. Yeah, by a landfill. Yeah. Bird watching by, yeah, that smells great. Hey, let's go by a landfill, the aromatic beauty of a landfill. Yeah. And we'll be a little bird watching and, oh, wait a minute.

Is that, is that, is that rat waving his butt at me? I don't know. Let me see it. Vin, continue. You're right. It is a, it is a rat. We lost time. We lost time for a second.

But I get the story that it's just an unbelievable story that they're still going to try to use it on us and to hell with them. It's not going to work. So right now the ship is actually headed to the Canary Islands, Pat. The ETA is May 11th and weird. What's 11th? May 11th. Rob. That's the day that Fauci's deadline for his five-year, what's it called?

Statue of limitations for him. Rob, your audio is off. Yeah. So meanwhile, passengers have already left the ship. Guys, this is what drives me crazy. They've been dropping passengers off left and right. They're scattered all over the place in different countries, thinking that they're fine. And mind you, it takes eight weeks, Pat, up to eight weeks for this to actually give you some

symptoms. They say. Yeah, they say. And another little fun fact, Rob, maybe you could look this up. The henta virus is listed in Pfizer's 38 page document on page 33. Guess what one of the side effects is? The anti-virus. Weird.

A vaccine that they pushed on everybody, one of the side effects is the virus. It's in there. Oh, isn't that weird? So now they're looking into the situation saying, look, they're telling us that this could possibly be a side effect connected with COVID. Weird. And then you find out another fun fact. Moderna and the Korea University are already working on a MRNA. Hansavir's vaccine from 2024.

Again, maybe it's normal research. Maybe they're preparing for threats. Just like Bill Gates have been warning us, and there's videos of Fauci warning us like they're freaking psychics. Interesting. Look at these side effects here. May cause pulmonary distress. May cause stock to go up.

Oh, weird. Right there in the side effects. Very interesting. And then Gene Hackman, do you guys remember Gene Hackman's wife? Who passed away? She died of a hanta virus. And everybody was... Well, they both died, right?

And they were found like a week later, tragically. Yeah, and the dogs, the dogs were, somebody killed the dogs as well. Terrible. Which puts the, you know, the virus back in the public conversation. And then this is a random one, Rob. In 2002, a guy or an account called Soothsayer posted this. He posted, in 2022, he posted this. 2003, Corona ended.

2006, hanta virus. This is in 1.30 in the morning, maybe he had a, maybe Fauci was visiting him or something. June 11th and 2022, he posts that. And this is the problem, Pat, after COVID. Wait, who tweeted that? So a guy named soothsayer. Might be a guy, might be a girl. He did that in 2020.

He gets wide coverage. Look at the stats there. Z. Go on his account, Rob, just to see if he's done other things. Okay, so he's 59,400. Who is he? I don't even know. Reads the future?

What? Go back to the tweet? Pat, he's an astrologist, so you know everything he says is accurate. So, 2023, 2003, Corona ended. He posted that on June 11, 20, 2022 at 1.30 a.m. And in 2026, he says anti-virus is going to come. Yeah. Is that Fauci's burner account? Or Bill Gates. And it's just, and this is what it is, Pat. And this is the scary thing or not

not the scary. It's the sad thing. Kind of combined the both. They, they screwed with us so much. They did so much damage and we're going to get to Fauci. Even if this is real, we don't believe you. Okay. You have lost your credibility every single one of you. When you silence people like Peter McCullough, when you silence people. people like, who's the other guy, Rob with the beard? Robert Malone, Robert Malone. These are people that were telling us, like, guys, this is what's happening. Early detection, we can help all you people.

They lied. They censored people. They kicked people off of YouTube. They try to lock people up because of this. And it's absolutely, like, blindly trusting to who. And there's a great clip. Pat, can I just touch on Fauci really fast? Yeah, for sure.

Fauci, May 11th, weird, when the ship is about to dock. It's coming up on his five-year statute of limitations. This is what I want people to understand about Mr. Fauci and Peter McCullough says why he needs to get locked up and the crimes, the two major crimes. And if you're out there and you're listening, you have family members that passed away, couldn't see family members when they died, or you're dealing with a family member, potentially a young son of yours or a cousin or a nephew that has freaking myocarditis. It's because of him. Okay? So, Rob, please play this sage clip with Dr. McCullough.

So a girl, Sage, Steele. Anthony Fauci right now today. I would say that a man who seeks 10 years of clemency. He asked for it, Pat. Which he did. By the way, to get a pardon, it's not handed out without a request. He approached Biden for 10 years, pardoned, for crimes he knew he committed. Bingo.

He knew he committed. That's the reason why he asked for clemency. I would tell him, listen, the world understance. understands that Fauci has committed two crimes. Here we go. One is fraudulent concealment. He intentionally concealed the origins of SARS-CoVito from his funded projects in Wuhan. It's fraudulent concealment.

If we would have known what the story was originally, I think we could have done better in our pandemic response. And the second major crime, I think he committed his mass negligent homicide. By two mechanisms. Two mechanisms. First, he worked to suppress a crime. Our efforts at publishing and promulgating early treatment protocols, which worked to get people through the illness. And secondly, he relentlessly promoted unsafe vaccines that took hundreds of thousands of American

lives and millions of lives worldwide. It's been the greatest biological catastrophe mankind has ever seen. And largely Fauci is responsible for orchestrating this on the world. And, by the, you heard what he said, Pat? So fraudulent concealment. Guys, when everybody was like bat, bat, bat, wet market, he knew where it came from. He knew exactly where he came from. And he lied.

So he like stifled everybody's investigations and to try to find the origin. And number two, he said, mass negligent homicide. And it drives me crazy. All these people, all these Democrats at home, all the leftists, you could do a stupid no-kings protest that doesn't do nothing. Here you have proof from actual doctors, actual virologists, all these people. people that where's your mass negligent homicide protest? Where is no, I'm being dead serious.

Where is the outrage? It's just Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump King nonsense. I think Pat, this should be the number one story, millions worldwide and hundreds of thousands of Americans and nothing. And nobody's, there's no protests and no caring about it. It drives me bananas. Because I almost got duped into taking this thing, which I know it would have killed me to do stand-up comedy in the difference.

Canada wouldn't let me come unless, like, no, you have to get vaccinated. And I said, no. Your thoughts on this. So, if you were, if you wanted to, you know, start something, you would do it on a cruise ship. Why not? You know, and I was reading, I was reading some things last night. And again, not tinfoil hat.

These are people that said, listen, if you really wanted to circulate something, the best place to circulate a disease literally is on a modern cruise ship in some place like a Caribbean cruise, Miami, or going a Pacific North cruise out of San Francisco. Because the number of people that fly into Miami, they get on that cruise, they come from many other places. Now they go all around the islands, and they're concentrated with each other, eating dinner with each other, sitting out with each other. And so you're in contact with everybody every day. So now you've got the ability to spread on the cruise ship. And then guess what you do, Pat, at the end of 10 days. You go back to Miami and they all get on planes. Go all over the world. Go all over the world everywhere. And so San Francisco and Miami, and if you were going to go around southern Europe, it would be Venice. Remember, we took a cruise from Venice. Italy. We took a cruise and we went to Splete, Croatia, we went to Greece, we saw the ruins at Athens, so we went all around. We went to, you know, the island off of Greece,

where everybody goes through with the Blue Ruffs. Centaurini and Poppy. So I read that and it says, cruise ship to do it. And I'm like, huh, that's weird. And then I saw a link, and I just, last night, check this out. Rob, put this up, the Aaron, CNN, and the guy. This guy on CNN,

Then, by the way, Mary Talley Bowden, another one of the people, remember her? She was absolutely persecuted down in Houston by the Houston Hospital and everything. And she was sounded even, you know, God bless the doctor you just showed. But she was this reasonable voice and she's writing a book that's going to come out in a few weeks. But look at this. Mary Talley Bowden, last night, to my knowledge, no one has studied Ivermectin's treatment for antivirus. Ivermectin has multiple antiviral and any inflammatory properties that could potentially

work against antivirus. So why isn't anybody studied it? Ivermectin is credibly safe. They're using thousands of patients. Now scroll up a little bit, Rob, to the Aaron, you know, out front with Aaron. This guy is out there talking about a 40-day lockdown

11 hours ago, late news last night. And so there's things that are happening, Pat, that are bothering me. He said a 40-day lockdown. He did. He did. Who is this guy? I don't know, but he's on CNN, so you know what's up. Joseph Allen from Harvard University School of Public Health. At what point does he say 40-a-day lockdown, Rob?

I don't know. I've not heard this yet. It's in there. He's reporting. Because eight weeks, he was talking eight weeks, and seven times eight is 56. So if you do a lockdown, if you think the country is being contaminated and you think it takes six weeks or eight weeks to get from person to person, then you want everyone to stay home and away from each other, for 40 days. Yeah, and apparently, some of the people

that got dropped off here, and by the way, they find those guys in love now. Nobody has proven eight weeks, and this may come from medical professionals, it may be correct, but nobody has proven that. Yeah. Nobody's, I haven't seen the study. I can't say nobody's proven it.

I have not seen the widespread publication at Hanta virus is an eight-week incubation person to person. I haven't seen it. If it's out there, hey, put it in the chat, show it to us. You found it, Rob? I did. Okay, go for it. with this virus, the long incubation period, and now we have people scattered really around the globe that are being properly tracked, isolated, quarantined, and get it under control. But what they did was they quarantined and isolated people for 40 days because of the long incubation period. So unfortunately, this is a key factor in us trying to figure out how do we keep people safe, how do we prevent further spread? I mean, we're all tracking right now is that potential secondary spread. Yeah, so let me say this to you. So there are 23 passengers wandering around the world.

on tour three days ago, no one had contacted them to passenger told Spanish newspaper El Pais the Australian went back to Australia the one from Taiwan went back to Taiwan the Americans to all corners of North America the Englishman to England, the Dutch to their homes I don't remember the rest one of those passengers

a Swiss man who returned home with his wife tested positive for anti-virus on Wednesday's Wednesday authority sets. Is this the one that's crying, emotional talking about? One guy and you tell me, Pat, do you feel this is authentic and out of you've been on the cruise? Here we go again.

You're going to kill us! Are you ready for this? Guys, tell me if you guys believe in number one, number two, this is the only video. I've seen, when you see a cruise ship, there's fights, there's drinking, there's, this is the only video on TikTok that came out of this entire situation.

Go ahead, Rob. I normally wouldn't make a video like this, but I feel like I need to say something, so I wrote a few things down. Sounds like a Republican. I'm currently aboard the M.V. Hondias. And what's happening right now is very real. We're almost here.

We're not just a story. We're not just headlines. We're people. People with families. Is he in the sauna? With people waiting for us at home. People with blood. How unusual.

There's a lot of uncertainty. He looks to the right. This is so fake, bro. He keeps scooped into the right. All we want right now is to feel safe. Okay, you can pause right there. Fouching just sitting there with a sign. So, by the way,

Just so you know, to the average American looking at this, here's what you have to think about. And I want to go to the next story. The average American looking at this, if a Democrat was a president today, now after having gone through COVID, however many years ago, not knowing what is really going on, if a Democrat, you better believe a lot of blue states

will be shutting down right now. They'll be sitting there saying, we do this, we do that, we do this. So the benefit of us having gone through it, hopefully we learn from the mistakes. One of the reasons why I wanted to see Fauci being held accountable is to make sure this doesn't happen again. It was a massive, massive disruption the last time this happened. Adam, your final thoughts before we move on. I'll just go real quick. I'm not freaking out right now.

We know about the fear of porn. I totally agree with you about the blue state thing. I will start questioning everything. If Anthony Fauci comes out and says, listen, the anti-institute of virology, we're doing gain of rat function. That's when we're like, all right, we got some issues right here. but I basically was like, all right, what should the average person do? And you know what the average person should do? It says, avoid rat infestations.

That's basically the number one thing. So I canceled my trip to New York City. That's done. There you go. So we're not doing that. So the number one most important thing to do is not freak out. Understand what's going to. Don't pull a welfare from old school.

And everyone's got to keep our composure. Calm down. Most likely this is not a big deal. But be mindful because we know what happened during COVID. All right. So let's go to the next story. That's our Adams advice to you folks. Don't freak out.

Keep your composure. Life changing. Get out of New York. Avoid New York. Yeah. Let's go to the next story. Next door I'm going to get to is the story about the Iran and U.S. exchange fires. And the president calling it a fire tap.

And people wonder, wait a minute. Is something serious going on here? Everybody's like, oh, my God, we're back at it again. And here's that the president had to react. Go ahead, Rob. They trifled with us today. We blew them away. They trifled.

I call that a trifle. I'll let you know when there's no ceasefire. You won't have to know. If there's no ceasefire, you're not going to have to know. You're just going to have to look at one big glow coming out of Iran. And they better sign their agreement fast. Did you give us an update on what is the latest in those talks? No, the talks are going very well, but they have to understand.

If it doesn't get signed, they're going to have a lot of pain. They're going to have a lot of pain. paid. They want to sign it. I will tell you. They want to sign it a lot more than I do. What was that response? I think that's what you want to hear, fellas. Would you want to hear a different tone? That's the only thing they understand. They don't understand it. We had... Tom. So what happened was, there was this Iranian tanker, goes sailing along, and we sent radio signals to it. This is what happens. That's what they go. They radio sends us, hey, dude, you know, you're not supposed to be over here. Yeah, they're just sailing along and said, dude, I'm asking you twice.

You shouldn't be over here. And so what they did was, rather than torpedo it and spill all that oil into the Gulf, rather than bomb it and set it on fire and have a bunch of sailors on there, who are not military guys, at least we don't think so, get killed. They just, they took that Super Hornet, and they went around, and they have a 20-millimeter cannon that's on those. And what he did, Pat, is they said he came down and strafed behind the ship twice and fired all those shells at the back.

because the rudders on these tankers is giant. They have giant rudders, and apparently they struck it several times, and all of a sudden they disabled the rudder. So now it can't steer. So what does that have to do? It has to stop unless it likes where it's going, because it's like, picture your steering wheel in your car, Pat, suddenly being frozen.

Well, if you like where you're going, that's great, but as soon as you have to turn right or left, you better stop. And so that's what they did. And so they came out after it. He calls it a love tap because we didn't bomb or, you know, aim to lose life or to create environmental disaster by cracking open a tanker with oil in it into the Gulf. We give a little love tap and basically shut the rudder off so now it can't steer and it had to stop. Vinny? I just, I really have a feeling, Pat. I think we said this months ago that

this thing is going to keep going and keep going and keep going. Apparently the new, what's his name? Is it Khomeini? The new... Abbas Hargachi or Chameh. The Chomeney or Chomeney? Is it Khomeini or Khomeini? The son just met with somebody... Get our names right, guys.

They know that he's meeting with people and he's sitting down with other people. I mean, they tried to kill him once. I don't know why they're letting him live, but it seems like this isn't going to go anywhere, but my gas, it keeps... I filled up my tank and it was over $100 and is driving me nuts.

And I don't see this thing freaking ending it because they're going to keep doing it. They're going to keep messing around. They're going to keep playing games. And I don't see this thing. thing ending soon and is really driving me crazy. Well, I have to be honest with you. I stopped following the day-to-day stories on Iran.

Because if you put yourself in the average Americans' position, there's only one thing affecting us. Let's get real here, guys. It's gas prices. So I had to fill up my girlfriend's gas tank the other day. That's what you have to do when you're a man. Oh, oh, no. That's what you have to do when you're a man. You fill up your girl's gas tank. Yep.

And I said, how much is it usually cost to fill up your tank? She's like $40. I filled up her gas tank. It was 50 bucks. I said, I'll often do fill up. She goes out of every couple weeks. All right, so this is $10. So the question you have to ask yourself, is if her an average American, is $10 every few weeks, as an example,

worth taking down the most evil regime in the world right now? Ending the nuclear threat, ending any possible threat of attacks on America, tax on our allies, tax on our bases. That's really the question. And you have to answer it one of two ways. Listen, I get it. It's going to cost me a couple extra bucks. They've been talking about bringing down a death of America for decades.

Trump actually did something about it. Check, yes. Or you know what? It ain't worth spending an extra penny on this. Stop this war. That's really the question. So if you look at the polling, and this is my final point, it says six in ten Americans disapprove of how Trump is handling the war in Iran.

Correlation, six and ten Americans disapprove of Trump. So if you don't like Trump, you're not going to agree what's going on here. And if you approve of what Trump is doing, you're going to agree what's going on here. And this is what, PBS, this article right here, I love how they word this. You have to be very careful. They go, and also understand that one in five Republicans

doesn't approve of this. Oh, so you mean 80% of Republicans approve? Is that what you're trying to say? At the end of the day, the only thing that this is affecting your actual life, if you're not in the military, is gas prices. My assumption is gas prices will come down in the middle of summer, before the midterms,

and everything will be okay. It's just a matter of time. Yeah. So, by the way, while this has taken place, Rob, what is the, oh, we're good. We don't need to go through it. We just kind of addressed it. So while this has taken place, a C-135 has been missing for the last two days, and nobody knows where it's at. At any point, there could be a report being made, but U.S. military plane goes missing near Qatar after distress signal. Okay, so if you want to go a little bit lower, go a little bit lower, U.S. military refueling aircraft has gone missing after radar systems, tracked at emergency distress. call as per fighter, trader, 24 data, the C-135 strato-tanker transmitted a 7,700 distress signal over the Persian Gulf near Iran.

As per flight tracking platforms, the U.S. military aircraft was headed towards Qatar at the time of the distress call. And then if you go a little bit lower, Rob, based on regional reports in Iran's Tasnum news agency, the C-135, also known as the flying gas station, reportedly experienced an in-flight emergency over the Arabian Gulf of Strait of Hormuz region. The incident occurred when the aircraft was conducting refueling operations over the Gulf when it transmitted the distress signal. Tom, why is this important?

And what is the typical protocol for something like this? What is CENTCOM supposed to do that they're not doing right now? Well, this is not inside Iran. So if you call Iran, the theater, right, Vinny? Yes. The theater is the area of engagement where it's hot, dangerous. and you're engaging the battle or the war. Hot route.

Outside of it, you have supply areas and you have adjacent areas, refueling areas, and then no-fly zones because you're there with aircraft carriers. The normal thing for CENTCOM would be in this area, if they're doing refueling over Qatar, like our aircraft flying a really long way over Qatar, you refuel, go over Iran, drop your bombs, come back, but we're in the middle of a ceasefire, so they're supposedly not to be firing.

normally sentcom would say hey we've had a mechanical failure and we're trying to identify and rescue the crew pat that's the normal thing would be sent com to say not over Iran not a result of a shoot down not as a result of anything we have an issue and we are searching and there were certain reports coming from reuters that said that over Qatar that media in katar had noted helicopters dispatched to an area adjacent to the area where this aircraft was circling. So if you're out there with helicopters trying to do a rescue, why not tell the American people? If you're supposed to be so transparent and you said, hey, we had 11 loss and we had 13 loss, now we see reports, maybe it's 15. Terrible that we lose men, but that's a low number compared to what war can cause. Why not just tell the American people what happened? Hey, we had a mechanical issue with one of our C-135 gas stations. I don't understand and it's not over like, you know, the hot area, but it is over area where Iran has been... Why wouldn't they? So could it be, didn't another C-135 crash last month and all crew

members died, Iran-Iraq or something like that? Why do I feel like, go to it? Was it a helicopter? March 12th, there was a case you, sorry to crash in Western Iraq during Operation Epic Fierers, killing all service members. Yeah, exact same thing. So this involved, they mid-air collision with another U.S. refuel and tanker, which managed to land safety, safely, and was not caused by hostile or friendly fire, casualty six, Western Iraq. So, but they reported it. And look what they say on location. Western Iraq within friendly airspace. So this is the same thing, though, no?

Yeah, I would say. So it's either an accident, which they could be reporting any time. It could be a, you know, project that maybe they don't want to disclose because it is highly sensitive with the timing of it, but why is C-135 strato-tanker that you wouldn't disclose that? It's not like it's a fighter. It's a... So who knows? I don't know what...

Let's see what that looks like. A stradot-tanker, Rob? Yeah, if you just type in Rob, type in KC-135 strato-tanker, copy-paste. That would it be because it looks like a gray giant passenger airplane that drops a fuel probe off the back. Yeah, that's the refueling jet. Yeah. And the fighters fly under it.

Yeah. It's not a small plane. This is, Pat, is it an optics thing? Is it a, we don't want, we don't want to report that there's more dead Americans because it makes this thing look bad. No, no, unfortunately, when stuff like this happens, you have to just tell the news immediately. You can't sit on it.

So typically when you get stories like this, what makes it even worse is when you delay it and there's a level of uncertainty. Come out, say what happened, say what didn't happen. Now, by the way, you know, we're sitting here talking about this. If the people that are on that, the family knows everything is fine, that's what matters the most. If something happened and that family doesn't know, imagine if your father, your husband, your brother, your son is on that thing, you're like, wait a minute, what the hell is going on? John hasn't responded back to me for two days. That's the part where it gets a little bit annoying that this has happening.

But, you know, at this point, all we're doing is talking about this. We're not going to speculate. We'll go to the next story. It is something that people are discussing. So I'll go to the next story. here. Next door I want to get to is mayor race in L.A. keeps getting nastier and nastier and nastier. And what happened yesterday, which was interesting, is Karen Bass.

Spencer Pratt, there's some clips, Rob. If we got it, we got to show it. But last night, not last night, Karen Bass decided to go after the socialist candidate. And if you don't know anything about the socialist candidate, the socialist candidate, what is this lady's name? She's got one of those. Nithia Ramon. Nithia Ramon, which is Hindi for steal you blind. So, Tom, you're so funny. So, Nithier, well, yeah, and these are with the cameras on.

So we have to, we struggle with Tom's, so you know what she said? Do you have the clip-roop of this lady who is running to be the mayor of L.A. said the reason why people are stealing the catalytic converter from the Prius, a Toyota product, is because Toyota made it so easy for them to steal the catalytic converter. It's not the thieves fault. It's Toyota's fault. Why did you make it so easy for me to stay? That's the one, I think.

Is that the case? Yeah, that is the one. And she gets booed if this is the clip that you have. Play the clip, Rob? We have a company, you know, the Prieta, whatever, Toyota. She doesn't even know the name. Who makes the Prius. It's called Toyota, buddy.

That essentially has a device on their cars, which is super easy to remove. Super easy to remove. Basically, the value of a MacBook, right? that is put in a place that is incredibly easy access in your car. That's BS. And then the effects related to this issue have essentially all the costs of that are given to us to bear instead of them having to manufacture a car. Are you hearing what she's saying?

She's blaming the company, not the thief. Completely dumb. By the way, it's like saying, Vinnie, it's your fault on why your beautiful truck that you have outside, why the tires are on the outside. making it easy for somebody to steal. You're right. It's not the thieves' fault. You should have hidden those tires.

I'm an idiot. So somebody couldn't have taken those tires because common sense says it's your fault, not the criminal. Shame on you, Vian. You should be more responsible to not put those tires on the outside. I'm going to have them removed.

And by the way, so that's happening. A converter can only go on the outside. It goes on the exhaust point. Yeah. But the reality is, so while this has taken place, Karen Bass says, because Spencer Pratt keeps putting them together.

They're friends, They're allies. They're a team. They're a team. And he keeps saying that. They're a team. Which, by the way, I love the fact that he's doing that. He's trying to tell everybody that they're a team.

Do you have that clip of him keeps saying that? If you don't have that, Rob, just go to the one with Karen Bass going after her in the mayoral race. And we've got a couple other clips we'll play with this. Spencer Pratt keeps coming up. By the way, you see the polls. He's not slowing down. Go ahead, Rob. I will go below the Harbor Freeway tomorrow with her.

And we can find some of these people she's going to offer treatment for her. She's going to get stabbed in the neck. These people do not want. a bed. They want fentanyl or Superman. These ideas cost us over $400 million to house for $3,000. 3,000 people for 400

million. This is an absolute failure for both of them. They're a team. They're a team. Key word. They're a team. That's the keyword. They're a team. Good for you, Spencer. They're a team. So now Karen Bass's team says, hey, you have to make sure they know we're not a team. We are very different than this socialist crazy nut job

that here we're going up against that's not, I'd what I would say, her team probably said that. Can you go to the part where her and Karen Bass go at it, Tom? Do you have that one? Rob? I'm looking. Oh, you don't have that. Rob, did you, Tom, did you?

No, I don't have it either. Rob's looking up, but it was at this debate. And Karen Bass popped up in the polls. There was a calcium on it. Can you pull up the poll, Rob? Can you pull up the poll on the calci on the mayor or race? So watch this year. Come on.

Green has been Karen Bass. This Ramon lady was the blue, the socialist. And then you got Spencer Pratt. Okay. Don't go to one week. crop. Just go to December. Go to December. And look where December. Karen Bass is going to win, 72% right? Go on to January. Now, watch what happens. Things change up. But Spencer Pratt is nowhere. The socialist comes up. Okay. Spike. Oh my God. You know, Spencer Pratt comes in.

Then the social, I'm sorry, Spencer Pratt shows up first. Then the socialist shows up. So the socialist got a lead, right? And look, her and Karen Bass are close. Even at some point, the socialist takes the lead. April first. And then what happens to him? Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, climbing up and today keep going one more one more look where it's at today come on spencer pratt 27.3 uh socialist 28.2 and uh karen basz 47.2 okay and there was a lot of back and forward rob i don't know what other clips we have on the back and forth things got heated things got heated between these two guys show the clips that we haven't shown yet rob i know we showed a couple clips the other day this is the best one go for it a lot of people talk about climate change and hurricane forest winds

The winds in the Pacific policy has never reached higher than 40 miles per hour. For those first six hours, they didn't go above 27 miles per hour. He talked about the winds. That is just completely inaccurate. If that were accurate, then the planes would have been able to fly. And so the winds reached close to 100 miles an hour, and the planes were unable to fly. So if there were reservoirs, if that reservoir had been open, it would not have worked. She's an incredible liar.

Everyone on their phones, Google it. 40 weather stations in the Pacific Palisades. It never went above 40 miles from. She is referencing the Altadena fire. I have to interrupt you. No name calling, please. Yeah, but no name calling. She called me a liar.

I don't believe she did. I did not hear that. I did not. And it's crazy. The system is protect, like the system, meaning her and the people, they're protecting them. The reporter just grabbed a podium. Exactly.

And it's like, what are you? Like, I'll let them play the clip pack. Go ahead, Rob. Which one is this? This is where they're talking about fire trucks. I also have where they ask if non-citizens should be able to vote in local elections. This is embarrassing. You're still on the mayoral race, right?

Not the governor. Go for it. This is a yes or no question, an answer. So there's an L.A. council member, he wants voters to decide. He is saying that non-citizens, should they be allowed to vote in local elections? Is this a yes

or no? Mr. Pratt? They can't answer it. Watch this. Mayor Bass. It depends. It's not a yes- law. Depends on what? Well, first of all, when you say non-citizens, it doesn't mean they're here illegal. It doesn't mean they're undocumented. They could have green cards. They could be here

perfectly legal, and there's a lot of states and cities that do that on very, very local elections. We have to see what the councilman is proposed. Yes or no question, Karen. It does depend. In other places, school boards have non-citizens. Mr. Fred, I have a question for you.

You told NBC News. Yeah, so there you have it. So that's the back and forth taking place. I'm trying to find this where Tom, you were saying, what was the clip where she went after the other mayor, Tom? Well, this is where Bass tries to draw a line between herself and Nithia. And it says, leading this and I have been doing this and that's what you're saying is not what I'm doing.

And so she draws a very clear line because she has to because it's an open, it's an open election. So she has to draw this line. I know, but do you said, did you, I don't, I don't have the clip in front of me. I saw what story was it in when you read it was. It was an ex-reference saying, hey, Karen Bass goes after her. I don't have it here. Okay. Karen Bass goes after. Is it Nithia? Yep. And Rob, you couldn't find anything? Not yet. Okay. Adam, your thoughts?

Yeah. Well, if you would have told me years ago that the reality TV star known as Spidey, Spencer and Heidi, I'd be rooting for him to become the mayor of L.A. I'd be like, you're absolutely nuts. But welcome to 2026 when just being normal is a competitive advantage against the leftist lunatics that exist in L.A.

So I think it's fair to say we're rooting for Spencer Pratt. I think he's done a great job marketing. It's kind of like a mini-Trump. of L.A. He knows the reality. He knows TV. He knows how to work a camera. And he's just normal. When you said the socialist candidate, I automatically thought of

Karen Bass, the Marxist communist socialist lover that goes to desert trips in Cuba and goes to Uganda or wherever. But hold my beer. We got even more socialist, progressive candidate. But here's my concern. Because right now

Karen Bass, I think, as if you're quoting to Kalsh, if you want to pull that up, 45% chances, right? The way that it works, and I think we're about a month away from the primary election, I think it's June 2nd, and if no one has over 50%, it will go to a runoff. So I think we're hoping for a runoff. If no candidate has 50%, it will go, the top two advance to a runoff. So I'm hoping, I think we're all hoping anyone that wants L.A.

to just have an semblance of normal and not just crumble, is that Spencer Pratt and one of these candidates go to a runoff and may the best man or woman or he, she, or they, them win. But I think it's fair to say that Spencer Pratt, who was a reality TV star villain, is now darling of common sense

in L.A. But I don't, I don't, I get, I don't understand the disconnect of people. Like, don't you want change? Don't you want, I don't care. In L.A.? In L.A.

But hold on what I'm saying, is Adam, because if you look at that, I want this. Those are two, the ex, the current mayor, right? Karen Basura. Kevin Basura. Basically can't answer yes or no, meaning illegal. It comes down to illegal. Do you want people that are here illegally to vote?

They have to pander to their audience. She can't say no. Spencer, he said it, no, and they went on diatribes, both of them. Okay, but I want the people in L.A. to understand. This guy, I'm telling you right now, you're going to stick with the same people, are going to get the same trash, the same homeless, the same tax, the same policies that are going to make you unsafe. I don't understand why the people don't wake up, okay?

Get the message. Okay, go outside, go out night. Go try to walk in Hollywood. Go try to go in these neighbors that you think are safe with your freaking kids. It's not happening. Okay, I think we found it, Rob. Go for it. I think we found it.

This is the clip of them going at it. Watch this. You want to turn on the audio. There you go. Go for it. I wanted to ask you because I just don't understand your position around in because you vote over and over and over again to take tools away from people who are trying

to remove encampments, especially near schools. It is completely unacceptable for there to be encampments near schools. And you know that I don't feel you have to call at the police to arrest everybody. But you vote against it every single time. I'll say it again. I already said it once again.

I don't think 41.18 keeps us safe enough. I think if we want to actually address encampments, I think if we actually had an honest response to people about how we actually address an encampment in park or in a school, we would design a policy where we were actually targeting housing resources through those places, just sensitive areas first, because that's how you actually move people off the street.

She's describing inside safe. No, that's what, and, I have a policy today that I release that designs a system for Los Angeles that will that will address every single tent and encampment on our streets by the end of my first term by doing exactly this by building a system not not an incredibly expensive you can pause it right I'm bored out of my mind I'm I'm bored because I mean by the way one is trying to top the other one as a socialist and the other one is uh you know with her failed policies and then But it moved Cali?

Yeah, it did move Cali. She came back up. What are the chances Spencer Pratt wins, Tom? What are the chances Pratt wins? I think the chance. Right now I've got him probably about a 30% chance. That's about all the guys. So you're exactly where Cali's at.

Cali's at 27. But I think it's growing because I think every time the public sees this and they see the two of them. By the way, Soha, I lived in Sherman Oaks right off the Poverta Boulevard at Delgado. And I went to these meetings. never joined, they wanted 50 bucks a year or something, but I never joined Soha, not Soho, as something else. This is Sherman Oaks Homeowners Association. It said they, they're out there to promote the needs of the community. And some of the things were okay, but most of the time they were lunatics. And so these two, you know, mayor candidates are there with, you know, actually getting

booed. If you're getting booed at Soha, Sherman Oaks Homeowners Association, you really have to go a long way because they were kind of this liberal kind of weird folks, a little bit of nimbie. But right now, every time they do this, Pat, I think they're pulling each, their two things are happening. I think Nithia is looking more like, wow, that's more of a lunatic than I think I want to vote for. Maybe I'll just vote for Karen Bass again. I think that's happening. And then I think the people in the middle, the little people in the middle, independence

are going, now wait a minute, I don't think I want either one of these two jackasses. I'm going to vote for Spencer. Yeah, hopefully that's the case. By the way, I don't know if they're jackass, but I do know they're socialists and qualified. There's a difference on weight. Yeah, no, no. I mean, no, I get what you're saying. And I understand, trust me, these are not types of people that we would want to go campaign for.

And the part about Spencer Pratt that I'm loving, he has an element of Trump. He's fearless. He's pushing the envelope. He's a great marketer. He understands camera. You know what pattern you're starting to notice? here's what pattern you're starting to notice. If you don't get trained on camera and marketing

and videos going viral, all of that stuff, let me tell you, moving forward, that's how to campaign. For sure. If you don't know how to do that, that's, that's, that's, that's, and you got to be camera ready. You got to know how to make the content go viral. Looks like both of you guys want to say something. Because I'm, this will take me less than 30 seconds.

And Pat, the guy's been, the guy's been affected. his house burned down to the ground because of their lying and their policies. He's pissed off. He's for the people. He's one of them. He's not some socialist that goes in freaking Cuba like you said. And then there are other policies won't let him rebuild it. Yeah, exactly.

And this whole homeless thing, the encampments, you know, if they want to solve homelessness in California, just lie and say Xi Jinping is coming to an area and they all disappear. Just like they did in San Francisco. That's the key to get ready. They don't get a bus to Sacramento for a one week tour. Yeah, exactly. And they come back.

Vinnie's absolutely right, and I'll just add this. This whole conversation about homelessness and campments and houses burning down. It's the bigger conversation. The story behind the story, behind the story, is the affordability crisis in big blue cities. Do you know of the top 10 most expensive cities for homeowners in the United States,

nine are in California? Damn. The number one most expensive city. San Jose. Is San Jose. Number one. Right out of San Francisco. So number two is San Francisco.

Number three is Santa Cruz. Number four is Santa Maria. Number five is Los Angeles, which we're talking about the L.A. mayoral race. You have San Diego, you have San Luis Obismo, you have Oxnard, you have Salinas. And the number 10 on this list is Honolulu, Hawaii. So not the top nine most expensive cities to live in as a homeowner in United States of America is in California. I'll ask you this. Is it because of their tax policies and their bad policies?

Or is it because the cost of living is just what it is in America? I would argue that these cities are downstream of the horrible policies that we've seen of California. So is it a coincidence that California has the most expensive cities in America? I don't think so. Yeah. I mean, look, at the end of the day, I'm going to keep repeating this over and over and over again until people realize the level of confidence you need to have because socialists and communists are going to get destroyed the next decade or two.

And all because of one reason, because you can no longer bully people that have intangible assets, longer. Cryptos cause intangible assets. AI has done that. The stock market with technology, the internet did that for a bunch of people. You want to bully us? We can move anywhere. Anybody is willing to take, you know, like I said, CZ said he's got 5,000 employees in 100 plus countries. Go ahead. You know, at Binance. 5,000 employees in 100 plus countries. What are you going to do? I can go live anywhere. So this is the dumbest model today. The only people it hurts is the people that have tangible assets who cannot move. And that's the low and middle income families that's going to get destroyed every time they do this. Let me get to the next door here. Next

story I want to get to is Obama. So Obama's on a tour doing all these podcasts, and he calls for clear ethical standards for presidents in the Oval Office. Well, what are you talking about, clear ethical standards at the Oval Office? Here's President Obama. Go ahead, Rob. So restoring some sense of the Justice Department being independent in making judgments about specific cases and prosecutions. I would consult with Eric Holder, my Attorney General all the time, around broad policy issues,

but that's different than who do you charge, what case do you bring? Second thing is the military. Don't politicize our military. As president, you are commander-in-chief. You are responsible for directing our military. But there had been a whole series of norms that were in place to ensure that you weren't,

trying to make that military loyal to you as opposed to the Constitution and the people of the United States. We're going to have to find mechanisms to restore that. And then, you know, a good policy that I'd like to see followed is that the President of the United States shouldn't have a bunch of side hustles that... Oh, really? Those companies and...

foreign entities can invest in. How much of that is just jealous that you didn't think of selling a sneaker? Because your sneakers would have flown. You know that, right? You would have banked coin. So this is one of the clips that goes on with him. And I think there's another one also with Michelle. It almost seems like they're on a tour, each one of them.

But Adam, I'll come to you with this one and I'll go to the next one. Look, Obama, if you just judge Obama on the surface of Obama, man, is he smooth? He's a great communicator. He seems very relatable. and I firmly believe that he tricked all of us. And a lot of us fell for it because a lot of us voted for Obama twice. I'll tell you, I don't know, Rob,

if you can pull up the picture I just sent you, I'll tell you the scariest picture that I can possibly think of is this picture right here. This is the future of the Democratic Party. And Obama talked about, I don't know if we're going to cover this, that Trump is ruining his marriage. The real reason is because at the end of the day, if you look at politics for the last 20 years,

there's two names. You have Obama and you have Trump. Trump and everything is downstream of Obama in the Democratic Party and everything is downstream of Trump in the Republican Party. And I'll ask you this. Behavior-wise, the way that you act, the way that you communicate, I totally understand why people empathize with Obama. He's a very smooth, swath character. But my biggest fear is that the Democratic Party has gone full-blown socialist. And you have Obama endorsing Mamdani.

I hope that's the case. I hope that's the case. I know you're saying you hope. I hope that is the case. Look at that picture. No, no. Play the clip. clip you're praising Mamdani. Go ahead, Rob. Watch. I hope that's the case.

I hope they go full on socially. It's already there. You have people like Abigail Spanberger and Mikey Cheryl, very centrist, but then you have further left like AOC or Zoran Mamdani. Look at that cheer for Mondani. For this party to actually achieve change. I'm not as worried about this so-called rift between the left and liberals as you describe it. somebody like Mondami, who I think is an extraordinary talent. He wants people to be able to afford housing in New York. Well, you know, I would assume liberals in New York want the same thing. And so I don't worry as much.

What I'm more interested in for Democrats is, do you know how to just talk to regular people like we're not in a college seminar? I think that's one of the powers that Mamadani has. That's correct. He also, not only does he talk like a normal person, but he lives a normal life. Yeah. He also, he names what is obviously wrong. Yes.

And he goes, we should change that thing. You can pause that right there. By the way, I hope they go this direction. Me too. I hope they, I'm telling you, the biggest edge, any candidate has to be able to explain the tangible intangible assets. I'm going to keep repeating this until the right people, until you, when you start seeing presidents, governor, gubernatorial candidates, start explaining it this. way. They're going to realize, let these socialists try to bully all they want. The biggest thing will happen, Vinnie, with this idea is the following. Here's what's going to happen. The disparity,

like the whole John Galt-Atlas shrugged concept you're going to see become a reality. States are going to attract business owners and job creators and investors and money. And the other states that want entitlement programs are going to go to those states. That's going to be happening. And, you know, while they're having this conversation, maybe we can go to the cliff. about him saying that, you know, Trump was ruining his marriage. I don't know if you have that clip. Can you imagine a president saying that another president is ruining your marriage? Of course, he's saying it in a comical way.

Rob, if you have that, if you want to play that clip, there's... I think it's an article, right? Yeah, it was a print. New Yorker, right? That's a New Yorker if you want to pull that up. If you don't have it, I'll just read it here myself. It's on page four that says, you know, she wants... The New York interview with Obama published Monday shared

how their marriage was affected by Barack's continuing involvement in politics. The former president appointed to President Donald Trump as a reason for his involvement, she wants to see her husband easing up and spending more time with her enjoying what remains of our lives. Obama said, adding that the pressure remains to be politically active against Trump's administration, despite the precedent of past president retiring out of politics altogether,

it does create a genuine tension in our household, and it frustrates her. And he continues, as Obama said, he does his best to accommodate her, but noted he understands why people are looking to him despite the fact that no other ex-president was the main surrogate for the party for four election cycles after they left office. Michelle struggled through her time as First Lady, saying on her, the light podcast, that upon leaving Trump's first inauguration, she was uncontrollably sobbing for half an hour

on Air Force One, which it was a privilege to serve, but it was hard, and it was hard on our family. It was hard on my daughters growing up in the spotlight. So, you know, you hear a comment like that, Tom, how do you process that coming from the president? Well, look, there's a couple things going on here, and this is how I processed it. Number one, he's in the news right now, not because he wants to be, but he's taking advantage of it. He's on tour and he's inviting people like Colbert to come on and interview him because they're in the midst of the ramp up to the grand, grand, grand, grand opening of the presidential library. Presidential Library, which was run just like his presidency with incredible cost overruns and delays.

So he's got the library coming up. So he's coming out at a time with it coming up. And now the environment out there, Pat, it's kind of safe for him to speak. He has been hiding kind of in the bushes a little bit because he took an L in 2024. His influence, and I'm not being critical, I'm being statistical, his influence did not move to victory in 2024. He did not have the mojo of Obama, you know, back in 2008 and 12. He didn't have it. And so now he's coming out in these softball interviews to open, and they want to go in there because they want.

People like Colbert want Obama to speak. And so he does these skillful, structured, going around the edges and things. And then you look at these softball interviews in magazines like that. It created genuine tension in our household. Well, of course there was tension in the household. You want your side to win. You want to put socialism forward. Everybody's upset.

That's how Trump's fault. It's because you're in the middle of taking an L. That's how I process it. I don't think Obama wanted to be out right now, but he's taking advantage of the climate around to say some things because this is all his appearances are being driven by the opening of the library. Benny. Listen, maybe he's blaming Trump for his marital problems

and the reason he's not around Michelle. Maybe that's true. Maybe the real reason he's all obsessed with Trump is because he knows Trump. Trump's DOJ finally has everything that they need, everything that he knows that he spied and directed the freaking CIA, the DOJ, Brennan, Comey, all these snakes to go. And maybe now he, maybe that's what it is. Or maybe it's a combination of other things.

Or both. Or maybe the tension at home, Tom, he doesn't want to be home. Maybe it has something to do with the letters that Obama wrote to his college girlfriend about how he fantasized about men. Or maybe, no, I'm being, Tom, what? Hold on a second. Let's be honest. In 1999, Larry Sinclair passed multiple.

lie detector test saying that when he was the Illinois senator, him and Obama would do drugs and they would hook up. Maybe that's what the tension is about Tom. Or maybe Michelle is mad because Obama, if it wasn't for Obama, who would Michelle Obama be? Okay, remember Claire Underwood from House of Cards? Okay?

She was livid, living, and hated the fact that he even said, you'd be nothing without me, okay? Or maybe it's the power, the media protection, the careful crafting of these public images, and the marriage is exhausting. It's exhausting. I think there's a bunch of different elements.

Tom, I don't think, I don't believe in the just whole, oh, the marriage is falling apart because of Trump. I think there's a bunch of different layers that are involved. And Obama and that whole power, it's done. I respect that, but I also think that your legacy is on the line. You're opening your library, and I think it's hitting him a little bit. I think I'm with Tom on this as much as I'd like to go down the rumor mill with you. It's not a rumor mill.

It's fact. I think, I think, I'll ask you this. You think Trump is competitive? Absolutely. What do you mean? One of the biggest. We're on the same page. He's an 11. You think Obama's competitive?

Absolutely. Absolutely, right? For sure. So I think there's, again, there's two competing legacies here for the soul of America. You know, Biden would be like, we're competing for the soul of America. Biden, you stepped in and filled in the blanks for a couple minutes. This comes down to Obama's legacy versus Trump's legacy. And this is the first year that we're going to have in 2028, the first election,

or a Trump isn't on the ballot. And Obama, or Obama de facto, isn't on the ballot, whether it's Biden, whether it's Kamala. And I think that you have, you know, they say what's the famous phrase for those that can't do teach? I think Obama is looking at the field and saying, I can't run anymore. That's not my thing anymore.

Trump can't run anymore. I'm going to coach and train and, dare I say, groom, the next socialist, Democrat socialist of America to become the next potential president of America. I think Obama is going to be very, very involved in politics and he's going to be behind the scenes, he's going to be in front of the camera, he's going to do everything he's got to do

at the expense of whatever his relationship with Michelle Obama, and I'll conclude with this. We can finally say this, and I've said this a million times before, and I'll say it again, Michelle Obama's not running. She's a marginal podcaster at this point, and her and Barack,

are going to publicly feud on camera because he's never home because all he's going to be doing is sitting there doing spring training with the mom dahnies of the world coaching the next Democratic Socialist America. That's Obama's new world. I don't think Obama's,

Obama is finished. We saw during the 2024 election at him, he has nothing. He was standing in front of young black men saying, you guys have to vote for her because we're black. What are you doing? Okay, and they...

Yeah, it was eight guys at a deli and two of them ripped into him. Yeah, exactly. And let me feel. finish Adam, that Obama factor that change in America, it's over. It's done. And I don't care what socialist, whatever he gets behind, Adam, I think people are fed up with saying, hey, listen, you have to vote a certain way because you look a certain way. Policies, people want to see what is actually happening. There is zero comparison to what Trump has done in his freaking two terms

than what Obama. If you can name one thing that Obama changed. Well, he made America gay. Well, listen, say what you want. Before you guys go there, before you guys go there, I'm not sure I'm completely in agreement, Vinny, and there's something that Adam said. You know you've got a problem with me and Tom are ganging up on you. No, no, no, I'm not ganging up on you. I'm making a point. I'm not doing that. So don't say I'm your guy in the middle of your fight.

You're my guy, Tom. I want to hear this. People like Amy Acton, running for governor in Ohio, look at what she said. Look at the quotes that she made this past week. They sound like Obama. Do I think Obama's in the background there on some place like, you know, Ohio governor? I do. So I think Adam's right about that.

Do you think Obama's fingerprints? She practically quoted Obama. I think he's still out there and I think he's influencing. Let me know if you agree with this, Pat. I don't think Obama has the cachet to get out there and be like, do this, do this, do this. But behind the scenes, you don't think he's coaching all these guys? What do you think? Absolutely.

He's doing that. Absolutely, he's doing that. Now, listen. you know, when you blame a highly competitive, like if you think about bodybuilders, the moment they retire, Mr. Olympia champions, they go through a divorce. Oh, really? Or whatever reason, yeah. Basketball players, the great ones, typically after they play a long time and they retire, they go through a divorce.

Typically, it's a very common pattern. Happens in NFL. Happens in basketball. Happens to anybody that's a cycle competitor that plays at the highest level of competition. Now, for Obama, unlike Trump, Obama became a president in his 40s. So when you become a president in your 40s, Obama still looks good. I don't know how old Obama is. He's still a good-looking guy.

He's probably turned 60 recently. He's probably got to be mid-60s. Okay, mid-60s, yeah. 64. So a good-looking guy. A lot of guys from the early 60s take good care of themselves. Tom, you and him are the same age. Good-looking guy.

You're in Obama. Guys, he's got stuff that he's going for himself. So mid-60s, he's sitting, like Trump is what? Trump is about 70, about to be 80. So I don't know. I don't know about saying it's Trump's pressure, all this other stuff. No, your enemies are going to be there. How you handle the enemy is going to be on you.

It's not going to be on. My marriage is having problems because the next guy is kicking my ass and he keeps talking shit about me, as if you didn't go for the first two, three, you were saying, I inherited a George Bush administration. I inherited. If you go back and ask the question, how many times did Obama use the word I inherited everything that I have?

everything that I have. I mean, that was his line that he kept doing, right? So he kind of did, though. And unlike anybody else, unlike anybody else, you know what George Bush did? What did he say? Nothing. Yeah, he's kept it. He never came out and said anything about the next guy that was president.

What has Obama done? All he's ever done has come out and call this guy. So I don't know. Well, that's also because George W. Bush should have kept low because he's probably the worst president we've had in the last 40 years. I don't know if I would put him as the worst president we've had the last 40 years. George W. Bush? Him and Biden, neck and neck.

There's no way. It's going to be Carter and Biden neck and neck. I said in the last 40 years. What would you put Carter? Carter was what? I wasn't alive there in Carter. So I don't remember what he did. Carter, I think Carter's late 70s. Okay.

I'm an 80s, baby. What are you born? 80. No, you're not. You're 79? I'm 1980, sir. No, you're not. Oh, what do you want to do?

You really 80 or you're 70? Yes, I'm 1980. You're 1980. Yes. So you're how old right now? 46. I'm 40. Yeah, okay.

I went to high school with Carter. I knew he was. Yeah, exactly. Exactly, you grew up with Jimmy Carter. Well, going back to it. But Jimmy Carter was horrible, of course. He was 77 to 81, top to worst president. It's not even close.

It's going to be Biden and Carter. No doubt. So let's get to the next story. Next door I want to get to is, let's see which one we should go to. Let me go to Lutnik Epstein, okay? Lutnik Epstein, there was this moment they had together where they went. And I'll read what James Comer said. James Comer hits Lutnik ahead of Epstein testimony saying he wasn't 100% truthful about the island visit.

Is this it, Rob? Yes, sir. Go for it. Secretary Luffman's credibility undermined here for having said publicly, he cut ties with 2005. And the Epstein files show that as recently 2018, he was in email correspondence with Epstein. What I've seen, we're going to ask him all these questions, and we'll let the American people judge whether the credibility was damaged or not. At the end of the day, I haven't seen wrongdoing in the email correspondence, but he wasn't 100% truthful, which. whether he or not he had been on the island. So we'll see and we'll obviously release the transcripts

and everyone can see for themselves. Okay, so Rob, what did we learn from the sit-down that Lutnik had? Because we're hearing a lot of different things coming out. Hey, you know, it's not good. We have to do it. Now we have to do with a recording on so we can do all that stuff. Is this Rocano who was in a meeting as well? It is.

This is post the meeting. So the meeting was not filmed, which is typical for, according to James Comer, whenever somebody volunteers to come into a meeting like this, like Howard Lutnik did, they don't film those. Now Democrats are saying that they want a film testimony from Lutnik because this one was not filmed. Let's see it. Now we know why that interview was not videotaped. If Donald Trump had seen the video transcript, he would have fired Howard Lutnik.

It was really embarrassing. He was asked very straightforward questions about whether he regretted misleading the American people. I mean, he said that he would never see Epstein again in 2005. And everyone knows that he took his wife and kids to see Epstein in 2012. And yet it was just contortions and lies and no acknowledgement that he misled the American public. American public. And if you saw the exchanges that my colleagues had with him, you would see he made a force of the English language. I mean, he was trying to define I. Can pause right there. Can pause right there. Rob. What else do we know? What else do we know on what was said by people that

came out? What else do we know what's been said about this? Because there was a lot of talks. Who's this one? This is Yasmin. Her name is Yasmin. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. A Republican, I'm sorry, a Democrat from the state of Arizona. She claims that after yesterday's hearing, Howard Lutnik has proved himself to be a pathological liar. Let's see this. What we have seen so far in this transcribed interview, I feel very comfortable saying that Howard Lutnik is a pathological liar who is enabling the most egregious cover-up in American history. We have now gone through the timeline of events with him in detail, an excruciating detail from when they met in 2005. This is Howard Lutnik and his wife meeting Jeffrey Epstein.

He described it himself in great detail on a podcast last year where he said that they went to his home, they took a tour, and allegedly were so uncomfortable after seeing the massage tables in Jeffrey Epstein's home that Howard Lutnik went on on this podcast to tell the American people that he himself, and my colleagues referenced the definitions he tried to change of what he meant there. But he said that he would never socially or professionally be involved or be in a room with Jeffrey Epstein again. Then in 2012, he took his family and staff. So Vinny, what do he thinks going on here? Where are you at? I'm just, well, for people that are, if they could hear that, there's an airplane trying to take off behind us. Well, yesterday's was an FAA. Who was yesterday? Blue Angels was here.

By the way, if you were here, it was the sickest view because you saw to take off the sound, the building's shaking, it was great. And where are these planes going, Phine? Yeah, I don't. What island? I don't know.

Go ahead. It's weird that we're talking about Epstein and now I'll tell you where they're going. It's coming when we want to talk about Epstein. Weird. I'll tell you what's going on. I think Key West is two weeks away from having a nuclear weapon.

What it is. The fact that Miami is defending itself, I think is completely in bounds. I think, I think it's a horrible, horrible look. And, you know, lover or hate her, whatever. Marjorie Taylor Green came out, I think, two or three days ago, Pat. And she was saying the main reasons when she met with the president and this whole situation

was happening. And she's like, Mr. President, why won't you release it? This is her statements. He said, it's because, you know, he has people that he knows that are involved and that are on this list. And guess what? Case in point, Howard Ludnick. And this is a horrible look.

You lied to the American people as if we weren't going to find out. Notice how you remember. Ludnik was around the president. Every time you saw like a briefing or something in the White House, Howard Lutnik was right there. Notice how now he's not around, and they're kind of keeping him out of the public's view. But it's like, listen, Pat, this has been going on for multiple,

multiple presidencies. It's such a sad and disgusting thing, I believe, that these people are going to be protected because there's different classes, Pat. There's us, there's millionaires, those billionaires. When you get up to that level of billionaire, Pat, it's a whole different situation. You're not in normal rooms with normal.

people. That's real money. It's real influence. It's very, very, very disturbing to me that it's who's on the inn and who knows. Okay. And the only thing, and I want people at home, and I get it. Everybody gets frustrated. It used to drive me nuts. When it comes to accountability, you know that's one of my main things that's everybody, no matter what you are, what party you're in, what affiliation, black, white, left, right, I don't care. Accountability. And for all the people that are stressing out, don't worry. If we don't get it here, nobody's hiding from God. end of story. You could hide wherever you want. You can be the richest person in the world. You could be protected by the highest people on the planet. Nobody's going to hide for him.

That's the only solace I have, Tommy, is that how I feel good at night because you're not going to run at the end of day. You're not going to hide. God got you. Look, there's a couple things here. And I look at it and it's like, is it surprising to me to see Rokana and then Representative Ensari of the Democrat woman there from Arizona to come out and say, oh, the witness from the Republican, side is a pathological liar. No, because that's what they do. They're not supposed to say what they said, but they can characterize it. And so they're at their media moment characterizing it. And it appears to be hinging on one thing. Howard Lucknick said 2005, that is a terrible man. We all saw the quote. I would never see him again. He's disgusting. Get him away from him. And then in 2012, he's seen with a bunch of guys in, you know, expensive Birkensocks and casual

shorts appear to be all congregating there in the island. He had his family there in 2012. So it appears to be that they're pushing on one thing. Oh, you were there in 2012 after saying you were never there again. I don't see anything else. They're all hanging it on that. What does come out here, which is a little uncomfortable, was James Comer is known as being a tough interrogator and a very, remember, he used to be a guy that's kind of full of happiness and sunshine, but behind his kind of his folksy southern draw. And then now he's become a little bit more focused. And even he is saying, I don't know about this.

Pat, that was the part that bothered me. It doesn't bother me real content. I'm sorry. They're supposed to say that. But when Comer comes out and goes, gosh, I don't know about this. I want to show a couple things here. That doesn't work well for you. Well, listen, this is how the game works.

It is. That's kind of my point. The way this game works is, if you get up there and you make that kind of a claim to sell the word, how world, how virtuous of a human being you are, there is nothing more annoying to the world than those who sell themselves as being flawless and virtuous. And then story comes out and you're being held to these levels. See, the difference between, when he went out there and said, oh, when I saw that and I said, we will never. Okay, great. All right, we believe you.

And then it comes out. And then now that happens? Okay. That's your, you know, your drop off on what happened. I was watching something yesterday with Trump debate where he says, hey, I did say that. You know, grab him by the, you know, I did say that. I'm not proud of it. That's not a proud moment of mine.

And da-da-da-da-da-da. He needs to come out and say that. He needs to come out and say that. The president, a couple of times I said that. I mean, he said, yeah, so he needs to say that so he can move on. The more you kind of get up there on the camera and you do your smile, because that's probably how you've gotten away with a lot of things in your life because you're able to stay strong and smile and get through,

which that's your mechanism. Everybody gets cornered in places like this, and people react to being cornered in a different way. Don't act like you haven't been cornered or anybody here hasn't been cornered. But I will say this to you. Rokana, if Rokana is going to play this game, they're going to come after Rokana next in a hardcore way. Let me read this to you, okay?

He's a rising democratic star, but a new audit suggests he's a fraud. So what's this story? Go ahead, Rob. He first put himself on a map through teaming up with Thomas Massey on Epstein files since then Kana became a democratic phenom. But now it's an ethics filing by Kevin Bass, accused us Kana of serious allegations ranging from insider training,

hidden access to corruption. Here's what it'll I just keep going next. Kana household has made 37,238 stock trades during his time in Congress. He has beaten the market by an estimated $28 million. 99.9% of these trades are listed under his wife or dependent children routed through a dozen family control trust. Kana claims that trading is handled by an outsider broker without his knowledge. The complaint says his financial disclosure form proves otherwise no blind trust, no separate managed account, no outside professional,

trust control by family members. Keep going to the next one, Rob. The complaint identifies four clusters of suspicious activity. His household bought defense stocks, Boeing, Lockett, Raytheon, in the days immediately after major defense bill passed, even as kind of voted against them. So you realize how crazy that is. So he's like, oh, my God, we shouldn't do this. Hey, guys, so they're alleging that he says, even though I'm against it, go by. His household traded pharmaceutical stocks within two weeks of confidential government drug pricing decisions. His committee had access to on at least nine separate. dates his family bought Palantir stocks, the same date it received a federal defense contract.

Go to the next one, Rob. These are the patterns. In conclusion, we've always know Conna was a savvy trader just last month. It was revealed that he'd beat the SMP 500 by 100%. But these new facts shed light on a different story, one in which Cona and his family have failed to disclose their economic plans using government information and shady networks to make millions. Kana has long campaign on getting money out of politics. We're wondering if he's including himself. So you see stuff like this. If you're going to go play that card, you better be ready because they're going to come after you. And Rokana can also not get up there and act like he's all perfect and all this other stuff.

Because you can tell Rokana's got a little bit of aspirations of running for president. He's probably going to want to run in 2027, 2028. I wouldn't be surprised if he's not on that stage. Chances on winning is going to be slim to none. And then at the same time, you made a comment about MTG. Did you see the moment yesterday the president had with MTG's boyfriend? No. You didn't see this? Rob, I send this to you. I don't know if you have this or not.

So the president is making, just making a joke. He's telling a joke, but look at what ends up happening right afterwards. Go ahead, Rob. I love his girlfriend too much. His girlfriend is MTG. But I like him, and I've always liked him. It's great that he hasn't changed. But, Brian, I think here's the problem.

It's not even imaginable to me why. And people are angry about it. Yeah, good afternoon, Eric. It's a little bit of sad and it's a little bit happy as well as this has been really the only life I've known, you know, chasing the news. Yeah, that's the boyfriend. A lot of times behind the camera. Brian Blen, is that a thing? Especially in the last seven, eight years following President Trump being kind of the maga mouthpiece, if you will, for the Trump, America First Agenda. but this past Sunday sitting at home in Georgia, I decided that it's time to, and I'll use a MMA reference,

it's time to leave the gloves in the ring and walk away from what I really consider it's been a great career. It's been a great time with Real America's voice. It's been fantastic working with you. I started this thing back in 1989. You can pause right there. He steps out.

That's what it's that that's now listen of course when when when uh when you and i hear something like that's like well you know that's the reason why i'm stepping out but you have to know you mentioned mtg so this just happened 24 40 out just a couple days ago you know it's crazy spend more time with his family that's what took him to quit not her and she just did this pat on may 4th she said on stage trump texts me this is in regard to like he kept she kept going after the files Trump texts me and said that if my son gets killed because of all the threats that she's getting, I deserve it because I was a traitor to him. You don't quit when that said and you're just around the president.

That's what it took. She says Trump texted him that, texted her that? Trump, she said, Major Telegreen, Trump texts me basically if my son gets, because she goes, I'm getting death threats and all this stuff, my family. And he goes, well, you probably deserve it. Rob, do you believe that? No, no, I don't, hell no, I don't believe that. But if that's-

Why would she say, did she really say that can be that? can be a comment she made. To Rob right now while you are here? It's a three-minute clip up. Can I see a shorter version of this? Because she goes into a pat about, let me see if I sent you one to Rob, that's going to be I mean, if that's what was said, that's terrible, but I don't believe that. But my thing is this, Pat, if that's what it's taking you, play this while?

All these people. I got no response from Susie Wiles. None. And she's a mother and a grandmother and a woman. I got no response from James Blair. because he only cares about making money on campaigns. I did hear from Cash Patel. He said, on it, but I haven't heard from him since.

I don't know what he's on. Okay, so she's having fun. Yeah, yeah. He's about the death threats to her family and her children. Jady Vance was very nice to me, compassionate and kind, and reassured me that he would do everything we could to find out what's going on. Can we get to the part about the president?

And then I heard back from Donald. Trump. And I've saved these text messages. I'd probably get put in jail if I released them publicly, but I saved them where Donald Trump proceeded to tell me that it was my fault. And that I deserve it. If my son gets killed, I deserve it because I was a traitor to him. That is our president of the United States. If that's your boyfriend, if you have a boyfriend, and he's around the president all the time and he's aghagasy. How does that not make you want to First of all, whenever I don't care who is my enemy, my ally, anybody, if somebody's getting death threats, you, you, you, that's not a, that's not a, that's something you do not mess around with. I don't know MTG. I don't have a relationship with her. I wouldn't want anybody to experience what it experiences with kids at all whatsoever. So we, you know, I got a weird email yesterday. I showed a couple of guys. We have security that's looking into it. I'm not going to talk about what the email was. But nobody should be going through stuff like that. So our prayers are that she has. and her son and everybody's going to be okay.

But going back to what the comments that was said with, you know, Lutnik, all that stuff. I mean, look, you know, I don't know. I don't know. To me, to me, there's a Republican faction that thinks that Trump and all this other stuff, do I think Trump would be the kind of guy that protects his guys? Do I think he is that kind of a guy?

Yeah, I do think he's that kind of a guy. Do I think he thinks he knows a couple of his guys are a part of it? And he's like, yes, do I think, It's a lot more on the other side than on this side? Of course I do. Do I think the Democrats and James Comey and all these guys that had all this stuff on Epstein for decades? They could have used it against Trump on 16, 20, and they never did.

Of course I do believe that. So, you know, they know if Trump was a part of it or not. So if they didn't use it in 16 or 20, now you want to come out and say, so, yeah, I don't know. But Lutnik screwed up. That's a major, major Lutnik. I think the common theme here is the whole, if you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks, Stones? Yeah.

Because, I mean, what we're seeing is that I would never. I would never do something like that, whoever it may be. Yeah. And like you brought up the Trump thing where he said to grab them by the whatever. He's like, yeah, I said it.

Straight up. Like, at the end of the day, what I think people appreciate more than anything in this, why people are turning to streamers and YouTubers and these types of people is like, just keep it real, bro. A lot of this old-fashioned line of thinking is pre-social media, pre-internet.

The internet is forever. I mean, look at Tucker. I won't use that example. Buddy, I never said that, buddy, roll the tape two weeks ago, you said that. How many times we're going to do this? A whole different story, but what I'm saying is just own who you are. Like, you know why I respect Mom Dani? He says, I'm a Democratic socialist.

I sympathize with Hamas. I want to tax the rich. This is who I am. Take it or leave it. And you know what New Yorkers did? They said, we'll take it. So what you're talking about like this whole thing with Rokana. Oh, you know, we're going to go after this.

guys, accusing me of all this stuff. You're in the same district of Pelosi. Just be careful. In the same district of Pelosi, and somehow you've accumulated this massive wealth, and you're making these stock trades right before these defense contracts go through. So that's like me saying, yeah, guys, I'm running for office. I would never go to a nightclub.

Oh, I've never been out in South Beach and part. I would never. It's like, buddy, we have so many videos of you out there. It's just, own who you are, and your vibe will attract your tribe. And if you're going to get caught lying, that's going to happen in the end because you pretend to be someone you're not. I appreciate you saying that of Borr-O-Kana. I've got something not to contradict you, but support what you're saying.

Words talk number scream. And what they reported, if the allegation is true, that was reported, that there were 37,238 trades made by Rokana. He's been in Congress for 3,412 days. Of that, 2,400 of those days, our market is open. The market's open seven hours. If you divide that out, 2.2 trades have been made per hour, for every hour that the market has been open during Rokana being.

to me, don't act like your freaking, you know, this. Holyer than that out. If the numbers that came out, they always are correct, Pat. That's what it comes out. Two trades an hour for every hour the market's been open while you have been in Congress for 3,400 days. Rob, how long is the clip? I just texted you guys to wonder how long that clip is?

Your point, Adam. Did you find a part at the end when she celebrates? Yes, that's it. I have it cued up. I want to go to a story. None of you guys know what this clip is. I saw this clip and I said, I just, you know, we're going to do a segment moving forward that's going to be called Heroes and Zeros.

Okay, in this clip, there is the hero, which I believe is the judge, and there's the zero, which is the mother. It is going to be painful for you to watch this clip. There's a three-year-old daughter there that her entire life since she's been born, she looks at the fellow to the right as her father. He the entire time has treated her as if it's his daughter. When they announced that the baby is not his, look at the mom's reaction and look what the judge says and how she reacts.

I get the chills all over my body just watching this telling this story. Go ahead, Rob. Go for it. It has been determined by this court. Mr. Rasmussen, you are not the father. Miss Miller. I'm sorry. Ms. Miller.

I'm sorry. That's a lot of nerve considering the alternative is somebody that don't want nothing to do with you or your child. That's a lot of nerve. Did you get it? No, watch. Wait for it. Watch what she says. You just told me where your priorities were right there.

I'm sorry. Because I held out hope that you weren't just acting a fool because you so mad at him because he cheated on you that you would cheat your child out of a father. But that cheering you did? What's you cheering? I'm a single mother with nobody that loves me on my child. What you're cheering for? Wow. I'm nice.

No, you were! He is over here breaking down because he loves this child so much. I sit here day after day after day with women hoping a man would drive 16 miles to see their baby, much less 160 miles each way. He drives 160 miles each way. And abide by a court order and sign a birth certificate and come day after day and week after week so they can grow visitation to have a relationship with a child. And you have no compassion for not just him, but for Zaley. She's three years old. Frickin.

Now, he's not just going to be heartbroken. We gotta break this news to her. And y'all over here cheering like it's a sport. This is this baby's life. And I asked you, where's this other man? I don't know. Right. And you know he don't want nothing to do with you.

Sitting up there cheering. Oh, I love this, Quillam. Mr. Rasmussen, I am so sorry. I know this hurt you. Thank you, Your Honor. I don't know what I'm going to do. Oh man She's my whole

My whole world Everything I do is for her She was the reason I went to work every day You can pause it right there What a moment How do you process this Vinnie

First of all There's no You know who the zero is And you know who the hero is What a I don't I've never By the first time

I'm ever seeing this Pat And I was almost Getting emotional That is the most I love The fact that the judge Did what she did. Because mind you, this is

a paternity court, it's a show. That's not scripted what she just did, Matt. No, that's not. That is a judge aside, that is a human being, realizing the situation and in the moment pointing out how disgusting of an act that this so-called mother did and can care

less about what's going to happen. This three-year-old kid, that adorable kid that we just saw, is not going to have anybody now because the other person is not involved. And look at this, Pat. This guy, who thought was the father, not he just realized he's not he has zero attachment meaning DNA wise to the kid look at that he is ruined he is ruined for the rest of his life because of the bond that he made with that kid and it's

going to affect both of them and i think it's a disgusting thing that the mom is is acting like that but what what an amazing thing for him stepping up and what a great job by that judge by loren lincoln lake good for you yeah by the way shout out to loren lake i don't know who you are this the first time i'm seeing this wow unfreaking believable what you just said and how you handled yourself. Respect to you, ma'am. Tom, your thoughts. Well, first of all, I echo that. Hats off to Lauren Lake.

That was the, you know, this is television made for entertainment purposes, but in the midst of that, she spoke pure truth. She spoke it from the heart, and she spoke it correctly. What angers me about this is that there is no moral foundation here. There's no moral foundation. When you lose the moral foundation and you lose a simple conviction that says, we should be doing everything what we can when the kids are born to turn them into great citizens by giving them love, structure, and the resources they need just so they can thrive. Not every kid's going to go to private school.

Not every kid's going to have this kind of life or that kind of life. But every kid can have the love of parents regardless of whether your station in life is. And when you abdicate that responsibility to deliver that to a child so that you can create a great citizen the next day and you replace it with selfishness at the core that could lead you to cheer in a courtroom. because you win, you didn't win, the child lost. Right. The child is taking the L. They don't even know they're taking. The child has to go and watch this someday and sit there and love her mom somehow

and then see what her mom did and goes, wait a minute, what was this? My mom did that to my stepdad and there's another guy that was my real dad? That kid's got to watch this. This is forever. Someday this kid's going to be told by another classmate or somebody, hey man have you seen that video i think that's your mom and it's just when we lose the moral foundation pat we lose everything and the moral the moral foundation when built on faith gives something better and bigger than yourself to latch on to and i don't see it present here but

lauren lake god bless you for what you said adam yeah uh i'm not saying she's a gold digger but you know she ain't messing with no so what's the famous line from conya 18 years 18 years and on the 18th birthday you find out that it is yours, he found out three years later. And don't you think that guy wanted to be a dad? Don't you think that guy cherished every single moment? She said, most guys wouldn't drive 16 miles. This guy's driving 160 miles to come see his daughter.

Each way. So it's the famous quote, you know, any man could be a father, but it takes a special man to be a dad. This guy wanted to be a dad. And he got his heart ripped out in front of everybody in court on TV, and the mom is celebrating.

you celebrating exactly being a single mom with the alleged real father wants nothing to do with you and now the father that actually wants to be in the child's life you're celebrating the fact that he's not the father so what are you going to do you're going to be a single mom you know what the stats of a single mom look like yeah it's ugly listen so she's a horrible person there we have we have a case like this in in one of our relatives one of our family where the girl doesn't know who her dad is and we work very hard to find out, you know, because do you want to know? We asked this kid, do you want to know, you know, who it is? What kid doesn't want to know, you know, who their father is?

Right? Can you imagine that? Like, you grow up for the rest of you all if you don't know who it is, and it's such an emotional thing. I cannot tell you how much rage went into my blood when I saw her celebrating. Yeah. celebrating, knowing this, by the way, this kid is three now, for how long you think she's going to see that clip of her mother celebrated

for the rest of her life? How do you think she's going to look at her mom? What do you think about your mom? The mom is going to completely brainwash the child. He wasn't a good father. He wasn't there for you. I'm the only one. But there will come a time, but there will come a time.

But there will come a time. And when that time comes where the kid is going to sit there, very few kids you can brainwash for 40 years. you can brainwash a lot of kids for 5, 10, 15, 20 years. Eventually they grow up. Trust me. I lived in a family where, you know,

they were brainwashed on how horrible of a person my dad was. I never believed them. Ever believed them when they did that. Never. Never once did it work on me. Ever. I'm like, no, you guys have no clue

what you're talking about. You're full of shit. And then eventually it came out on who was the one that was doing that behind closed doors. This, listen, this is the reason why I'm finally, I never wanted to do this. I didn't want to do this because it's unnecessary pressure on the kids and all that stuff.

I'm writing the book on fatherhood and there's no CTI. I don't have a book right now. I don't know when it's going to come. Probably the next couple of years. Because of men like that, like you can tell his biggest purpose in life was having a kid and raising that kid. That was his purpose. That's what he woke up for every day. There's something very special that happens.

You know, because the reality of it is everything you're doing with, no matter how hard of a time you're going through right now. I saw this other thing, Rob, I'll send this to you. I'm reading this morning, and I'm just kind of sitting there like, what's a very weird morning for me of thinking and thoughts and a lot of thoughts going through with family, life, all this other stuff. And it's like, no matter what you're going through right now, in the next five years, you know, the bad, the good, the ugly,

you're going to forget about the bad generally, but you're going to be sitting there reminiscing about the good. And let me explain to you what I've been doing this week. For whatever reason this week, I want to wake up early in the morning and I just go sit right in front of Brooklyn and I want to watch her wake up. And I go and I just sit there and I just watch Brooklyn, wake up. You know, and the whole thing with the eyes,

I just want to watch her wake up. And then I go to Santa and I watch her wake up. I give her a kiss. I give her her kiss. And I go to Tico, I go to Dillon. And then Brooklyn, I lay in bed with her 6.30 in a morning, just spending some time with her. because this thing goes so fast.

It's not even funny. I'll read this to you, something I sent to my wife this morning, and it got me thinking. I'll just read it to you for you guys to see. Parents, brace for impact, because you're going to relate to this, especially parents who are going through this,

and sometimes, you know, we have all these other thoughts. One day, they stop running to you, first thing in the morning. The sound of little footsteps in the hallway that hug in your bed slowly fades into silence and a closed bedroom door. They stop saying, Mom, Dad, look, look, Mom, look, Dad. They don't run to you anymore to show every little rock or every drawn. Slowly their world becomes quieter and more their own.

One day they stop holding your hand when you walk, and suddenly you feel that emptiness, not because the love is gone, but because they're growing up. One day they stopped falling asleep in your arms. That little head on your shoulder, the sound of their breathing down, slowing down, these are moments that end without warning. You're not given this warning, right? At some point, they stop believing your kiss can fix everything.

Once a bandage was enough. Then the deepest wounds start hiding in music and in silence, no longer in your arms. They stopped bringing you their little treasures. leaves, pieces of paper, tiny finds, that pure spontaneous love just becomes less. Childhood isn't a rehearsal. It's happening right now. And while they ask, why they still ask to be held

and call for you all day, cherish every moment. One day these moments will become just memories. Hold on to this feeling. Man, this is awesome, right? You wrote that? No, no, I'm reading it. Bailey goes to college.

The day Bailey goes away to college, me, Tom, Kim, and Jen are at a French restaurant. In Boca. And it hasn't hit yet. And I asked the question. I look at Tom, I say, Tom, how are you handling her being gone? Your baby girl is gone. She's out there undependent doing her thing. How are you handling?

Tom, do you remember that? It's such a beautiful freaking thing. And you're trying to tell me you're celebrating that kid is never going to have that man that's going to protect you. You're celebrating that? It's insane when you think about it. You know, it's insane when you think about it. This is why when you go through, like right now, pull it and then just send me a text. I don't know if you want to pull this up, Rob.

Proud moment in our family. I don't know if you got it if I haven't texted it to you. Don't worry about it. Yeah, right there. We just got word. Grace was one of three kids that since ninth grade, has never gotten anything but an A. Wow.

Praise. And you know what announcement was just made 20 minutes ago? High school graduation? She's the valedictorian. Wow. Congratulations. Amazing. Yeah.

Oh, congrats. Isn't that amazing? And by the way, you want to know the craziest thing with Grace? This is your niece for it to be clear. My parents, the last time they were in the room together was 1989 before they got the divorce. You know, it's the second time they were together when she was born. Grandkids unite families. there's something very special about life, kids, blood, that emotional part you go through.

So, Judge, wherever you are, shout out to you. And that girl, wherever she's at, I pray for God to be as close because God protects. You have to have that God protects. He's going to be there. He's going to do his part. And I hope that lady, whoever she is, that Judge had this much of an influence for her to become a better mother. instead of acting the way that she did. That wasn't even the plan on me showing this.

I just saw this this morning. I said, I want to bring it up to you guys to share it with you. I thought it was an amazing testimony. Because, Pat, if you think about it, who knows who the new guy that she's going to date is going to be? Who knows? You remember Tim Tebow showed all those chart of all the disgusting people out there looking at child, you know, sexual stuff and all that stuff?

Who knows who you're going to bring into the house now? And you think it's going to treat your child, like the way that this guy did? The guy, that's a, like, again, prayers to that kid and that the mother makes a freaking decision. Hopefully that is a wake-up call to her, hopefully. This is the first time hearing you're writing a book on fatherhood. You said it's not anytime soon.

I think that's awesome. I think what makes people tell me this all the time, I think what people love about our podcast is that we're not just politics, we're not just business, we're not just current events. We're real stuff. Family, kids, dynamics, parents, aging, birth, everything like that. And I think at the end of the day, what's the most important thing in your

life? And that has to be your family and friends and the people around you. And I'm just grateful for what we do in learning stories like this makes me even clear on what our mission. Hey, guys, to people out today, you take your job as being a parent seriously, I got a lot of respect for you. You're very important. You make the society a better place. I hope you could be sitting in front of me right now for me to give you a high five and give you a hug and tell you, hey, great work, keep at it. You matter behind closed doors. You may not get enough recognition, fathers, mothers, keep loving your kids. If you screwed up, you made mistakes and you feel like, man, maybe I'm not a good father. Hey, they'll forgive you. They just want your company,

man. They just want you there. They want a relationship with you. So, but to those that go above and beyond, I applaud you. I got a lot of respect for you. And we're going to continue highlighting more heroes and zeros because we need to know what to do. That's the right thing to do. And we need to also know what's a dumb thing to do. So we learn from the good, bad, and the ugly. All right, Let me get into the next story here that I want to do as well before we wrap up, is it kind of goes in line with what we just saw right now. So Stefan Diggs, football player. I think he's with the bills.

I don't know who he's with today. He was with New England last year, and I think he's a free agent right now. Was he ever with the bills or no? He was with Minnesota, then he was with the bills, then it was at Houston. Yeah. So he has this story, Rob. I don't know what page the story is. I don't even know if we have.

26. All right, page 26 or 28. It could be 28. So jury finds Stefan Diggs not guilty of assault strangulation. So he has a chef. And this chef that he has alleges that he strangled her and then he slapped her in the face. And allegedly, she is asking Stefan for, I think,

I don't know what the number is, Rob, some ridiculous number, $5.4 million. Now, keep in mind. Somebody may look at Stefan Diggs and say, well, this guy's a football player. He's a player. He probably hit her. He probably did, right?

He probably hit her because it does happen. We know the, you know, different stories in the past, Ray Rice. We've seen these videos. It's not like this hasn't happened. And she comes out and says $5.4 million. You know, $5.4 million. Is this the one that he's innocent, Rob? I don't want to play this one.

I want to show some of the stuff on what she did when she's being questioned. Right here. Which one is this one? This is where they're asked about the 5.4 million. million request of payment from Stefan Diggs. Yeah, there's a moment of this that you can tell the judge is starting to get annoyed with her. Forget about, you know, the opposite side defending it for Stefan Diggs.

But watch this clip here. Go ahead, Rob. Ms. Adams, three weeks ago, your lawyer demanded $5.5 million from Stefan Dix, correct? Watch this. That is client. Lawyer privilege. I cannot speak. speak on that. Did you just see what she said? You believe that your lawyer's communications to

Stefan Diggs are covered by your attorney-client privilege, ma'am? She don't know nothing. I can't answer that question. I don't know the answer to that question. You know that someone on your behalf has demanded $5.5 million from Stefan Diggs, don't you? I have a workers' comp claim and I'll explore all civil options. Ma'am, I don't understand. Are you able to answer that question? No, I'm not able to. Restate the question, please. You know that someone on your behalf has demanded $5.5 million from Stefan Diggs.

Do you know that, Ms. Adams? No. Are you understanding what's going on here? Lawyer and defending first. She doesn't understand what's going on. So, Rob, now go to the clip that I just sent you with the judge finally snapping and saying, hey, man, what are you going to do here? answer the damn questions. Do you have that one?

Rob, watch this year. Go ahead, Rob. Responsible for answering questions that are pretty. If you don't understand a question, you can say that. And I'm sure counsel will rephrase. If you can't hear a question, tell them that as well. But courtrooms function

in, and especially trials, unfold in a question and answer form. This is not an opportunity for you to interject your own narrative, and evade responding to questions the court deems appropriate. And if you continue to do so, your entire testimony may be stricken.

Am I clear? Yes. I love that. Am I clear? Am I clear? And by the way, when she said that Stefan Diggs choked her and slapped her, that same exact trip, okay, another girl recorded this. video of her dancing and celebrating. Watch this. Go ahead, Rob. Does this look like a person

that was just slapped and choked? And by the way, the girl that recorded this video, Rob, the girl that recorded this video of her dancing was also given her testimony. And you should see what she said. Oh, really? Yeah, you should see what she said. I don't know if you have that one, Rob, or not. This girl's given her testimony. And by the way, the reason why this is so important is because if they don't have these clips, if that girl doesn't come out and say anything, guess what happens to Stefan Diggs? He's done.

He's probably going to jail. And he's probably having to pay a mass of fine to her. But, you know, when you're a dummy like this lady here who is lying through her teeth and saying, she got slapped in the face, there's a clip. Let me see that one, Rob. I'll be able to see her face if it's that one or not. Let me see.

I don't know if it's that one. That's not her. because there's another girl that went on the clip that she's being asked about. And she says, yeah, I was doing the film. Yes, she knows. No, she wasn't hurt. Did she act like she was getting, you know, anything going on?

No, not at all. Nothing really happened with her. So more and more stories like this come out. And we saw what happened with Amber Hurd trying to destroy Johnny Depp's life. Yeah. Right? We saw with, you know, what's that girl's name, Age of Adeline? Who's the girl that played Age of Adeline that's married to Blake Lively?

Blake Lively tried to destroy the Justin Baldonia. We saw what happened with that. They dropped that case, I think. Good. If I'm not mistaken, that case was dropped. So more and more stuff like this happens. People have to protect themselves. And you have to be careful that if you become somebody that's a public figure making money,

there are women. There was a girl in Pasadena that destroyed Trevor Bowers' career. Yep. These types of people exist. There's names for them. Okay. What did it call it? Cleet chasers?

Or what's the? Leet Chasers, Jersey Chasers, Jersey Chasers. I have a different word for them. I want to be able to. Jersey Jumpers, Cleet Chasers. Adam, do you have any thoughts on this? I'm going to go find the other clip. Go ahead.

Well, I'm very familiar with Stefan Diggs story. He was actually drafted by the Minnesota Vikings. Him and Adam Thielen were a deadly wide receiver combo. There, the reason I know that is because my cousin was Adam Thielan's agent, so I was very familiar with the situation there. He's an NFL agent big time in Minnesota. Shout out to Blake. Adam, stay on this story.

You just said a 30 second about it. Tell us about this story. Go ahead. I am. I was giving you a little context that I know the guy. So are you familiar with who he's been dating in the last few years? Cardi B. She's pregnant. There's two different stories going on. Let me try to sum up this. There's the truth. And then there's the stories and the fables out there.

The truth is this. We've heard this story about believe all women, which clearly at this point, don't believe anybody. We talk about Iran right now. Don't trust them and don't verify and verify everything because everything needs to be verified. The reality is we need to solve for the truth. Thank God we have a justice department that's willing to litigate the situation and basically expose this woman as the fraud she is. And she'll deal with what the judge and the jury basically passed down on her for basically lying. We'll see what happens. He was acquitted, and I believe so, was the right verdict for the strangulation of the assault of the battery.

At the same time, when you're a public figure like this, and you're accused allegedly of not only having seen, sex with your chef, with your assistant, your hairdresser, your baby mama, and then on top of that Cardi B, at what point you have to look at the mirror and say, clean it up, brother. When there's smoke, there's fire. So I'm not saying that he's guilty of anything other than basically making poor decisions of where to put his little head. Because we all know this as men. You have your big head and you have your small head. And when the small head takes over, dumb decisions happen after that. So clean it up, be smart. And thankfully, you were not found guilty.

of something you did not do. Rob, I think that clip you had was the right one. It's just, I don't remember the girl being, honestly, that big. I thought it was a smaller girl. Go a little bit lower. I think the clip, yeah, go. No, no, you just passed it, Rob. Go a little bit more.

No, no, listen, that's for you, but I'm just saying, I didn't think she was that big. Is this it? Let me hear this? Miss Adams cooked dinner that night? It was like a hot dog. It was like a, and there was, like, mustard on it, but it was, like, left on the counter and it was, like, dried up.

And then in the room, it was, like, dried up. So there was like two that were made. Let me back you up as a chef. Do you know if she did cook dinner that? She did. Um, where did she do that? In the kitchen. And what time did you see that? I just remember the food being like, anyway. So, so there's a, I love it was dry. It's ironic. It was a mustard on it. Anyways, it was not a piece. But the reality of it is, Rob, now he's gone, right? He's innocent. They let it go. Do you have that one when they announced the fact that he's not guilty? And okay, that's the one. Go ahead, Rob. What is your verdict? Guilty or not guilty?

Not guilty. After just over two hours of deliberations, former New England Patriots wide receiver, Stefan Diggs, found not guilty. So say all members of the jury? Yes. Diggs in tears, as the verdict was read. He was accused of strangling and assaulting his then-live-in personal chef, Jamila Adams, who says she had been romantically involved with Diggs.

Adams, testifying the argument, started over a pay dispute. He took his arm and he came around my neck with the, his elbow around my neck. And he began to choke me. But the defense says that never happened, pointing to the lack of medical records or photographic evidence, showing this video of her dancing just days after the alleged attack. There was no assault, no strangulation, no incident at all.

Adams taking the stand in the two-day trial. at times struggling to answer questions. Do yes or no question, ma'am? I don't know how I answered that question. Diggs never testified in his own defense. End zone. The catch, the touchdown, Diggs. The four-time pro bowler released from the Patriots back in March

was one of their star receivers helping the team. Okay, fellas, if you're making money, you're successful. Be careful. How you position yourself, what you do, all of that, especially when you're a big name like this here. And get a better chef that doesn't ruin how do you a chef? Alper would never do that. Alper would never, I was just going to say that.

Alper, he would never make two. Imagine you hire a chef and never do that. I mean she's microwaving them with mustard. She needs to, he needs to find a good Turkish chef. Preferably bald so hair doesn't get into the food. The easiest thing to do right now is condemn this woman for being a, Gold digger. She's the qualified gold digger. She is 100%.

She lied. She was looking for a payday. She never filed the police report. She's doing the whip. She's doing the shuffle. She doesn't understand basic questions. They're saying yes or no. But I do want to say, be careful who you let in your house. You're going to let some chef who makes used hot dogs in your house that you're allegedly having relationships with. It's like, be very careful.

What do you mean? The likelihood they hooked up? Oh. Very, very. I agree, very, very, of course. Of course, yeah. I don't even know if he denied that. I don't know.

But the reality is this. He needs to make better decision making of who he lets around him. And, but at the end of the day, this is the person that, that is. So maybe like the hot dog is like a hot dog. His mind. It's like, I'll make you a hot dog. But his hot dog. Hot dog.

Yeah. Yeah. Anyways. Okay. All right. Why did you want to cover that story? because that was the one in your top five stories? I think it's a story.

I watched and I can't stand people like that that can potentially destroy someone's life. And I think young men need to be aware of those things that are out there for you. You need to be careful on what's going on and protect yourself more. Anyways, all right. So today's what, Rob, Friday?

Okay, we got a couple podcasts that hasn't yet gone live, right? If I'm not mistaken, one is CZ with Binance, which is a phenomenal, phenomenal podcast that I go out next week. And is it true that tomorrow's Robert Pape? Yes, sir.

Robert Pape is going out tomorrow. Oh, the audience is going to love that one. About Iran and his views, it's kind of like a Susan Coquinda that would go out. Pape. Not the Pope. Not the Pope. There's Pope's in the news today. I told him, I said, listen, I think it's a better last thing if he say, you know, Pape instead of Pape.

Put a little accent. Poppe, but he said, no. Maybe he moves to Miami. We call on Papacito. We don't know. That's why I said. I said, there was a lot of things you can do with that. But all right, with that being said, gang, again, for those of you guys,

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