PBD Podcast - HEATED Israel vs Palestine Debate w/ Bassem Youssef | PBD Podcast | Ep. 349

Episode Date: January 12, 2024

Patrick Bet-David, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana are joined by comedian, television host and surgeon Dr. Bassem Youssef! Bassem Raafat Mohamed Youssef is an Egyptian comedian, television host, and surgeon. He is best-known in his media career for having hosted Al Bernameg, a satirical comedy show focused on Egyptian politics, from 2011 to 2014. 3:16 - Bassem discusses when he decided to leave medicine and become a comedian. 15:45 - Bassem discusses why he fled Egypt following his criticism of the Egyptian government. 26:30 - Bassem explains why he won't perform in Israel. 48:32 - Did the Israeli government know about the October 6th Hamas attack in advance? 51:50 - How to move forward in Israel following the October 6th attack. 55:50 - Are the tensions in the Middle East a social or economic issue? 1:06:00 - How the United States government uses economic hitmen to bankrupt and run other countries. 1:15:00 - Why there were no wars that broke out under Trump's administration. Follow Bassem Youssef on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RTTTgQ For tour dates, tickets and more check out BassemYoussef.xyz: https://bit.ly/3TXD8DN Purchase Patrick's new book "Choose Your Enemies Wisely": https://bit.ly/41bTtGD Register to win a Valuetainment Boss Set (valued at over $350): https://bit.ly/41PrSLW Get a free "Future Looks Bright" Hat & T-Shirt: Purchase two "Future Looks Bright" Hats and one "Future Looks Bright" T-Shirt & use the promo code "pbdpodcast2024" at checkout! Connect one-on-one with the right expert to get the answers you need with Minnect: https://bit.ly/3MC9IXE Get best-in-class business advice with Bet-David Consulting: https://bit.ly/40oUafz Visit VT.com for the latest news and insights from the world of politics, business and entertainment: https://bit.ly/472R3Mz Visit Valuetainment University for the best courses online for entrepreneurs: https://bit.ly/47gKVA0 Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! SUBSCRIBE TO:  @VALUETAINMENT   @vtsoscast   @ValuetainmentComedy   @bizdocpodcast   @theunusualsuspectspodcast  Want to be clear on your next 5 business moves? https://bit.ly/3Qzrj3m Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQL Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

I know this life meant for me. Yeah, why would you plan on the life when we got bad data? Value payment, given values, contagious disorder on your panors. We can't no value that hated. I didn't run home, you look what I become. I'm the one who made it out of you. Run, homie, look what I've become. I'm the one. So folks, we're learning different languages today from a very renowned heart surgeon who somehow became, decided to change. Can you imagine your heart surgeon?

Okay, that's what you're doing for living, okay? And at all of a sudden, one day you're inspired to want to be a comedian, okay? Because you watch a guy named John Stewart, which we talked about yesterday. He just recently chose to part ways with Apple over them, not letting them do shows on AI in China. And so you know, I can just visualize you as a heart surgeon, the middle of a heart surgery, he's telling all the nurses jokes and, oh, this one we messed up. This is this one one's God's not gonna work. And you don't need this. You don't want just your heart.

I'm gonna be a comedian. So heart surgeon, you would assume you're doing well for yourself, you're making money, you got respect, you've gone to school, then you take the risk to go be a comedian. And you don't just become a regular comedian. A third of your country is listening. You got 40 million, give or take weekly listeners to your show.

And then you're being invited all over the place. And recently some of you may recognize him because of the podcast or the show that he did with Pierce Morgan, which the angle he took was very different, satire comedy. It almost confused Pierce. It was so confusing that Pierce had to get on a plane to go to LA at the comedy club to interview

And it was a great encounter back and forth gave a different perspective to everybody But today we have in the flesh Basim Yosef. How are you sir? Hello? Oh, the other side I'm a little bit under the influence. Yeah. And the influence meaning that I'm still under heavy pain medication. How long did you, you've been traveling, 40 hours? So just in five days.

Five days, in five days. I took a plane from LA to Dubai for 48 hours. And then I went from Dubai to Boston for 36 hours for Another shows in Arabic and English and then went from Boston to Dubai again for another oh my god And then that was less than 24 hours and then I took the flight from Dubai to Miami and just landed yesterday Oh my god. Yeah, and then you're performing and I perform it tonight tonight and tomorrow and after tomorrow and after tomorrow Friday Saturday Sunday at the Miami prop So you're fired up is what you're saying. I am so excited, but I cannot hide it. Yeah

It's very I'm so I got a question for you. I mean seriously like before we get we got a lot of things We're gonna get into I got I want your thoughts on a lot of different stories and you know Whether it's some current events your background politics will talk Israel will talk Palestine will talk Egypt We'll talk all that stuff. What was the turning point for you like Did did people always know you were funny like when I when I talked to a comedian? I say at what point did you know you were funny? You know well when I was 10 years old My dad would tell me hey, hey, go out there and perform and make everybody laugh.

And all my dad's friends, like, they any of my dad's friends would watch me and I'm like, oh my God, this kid's so funny. Oh, when I was, our life was so hard and it was all about comedy was the kind of Lord of Temperature for me where I could use it and laughter and all this stuff. If you're a surgeon, you want to school 10 to 12 years

to be a surgeon, right? So at what point did you know you were funny and you may want to consider a career in comedy? I never thought that I was funnier than usual. There was actually people in my school that were funnier. They're the one who are much cooler with the girls. I never had a girlfriend.

So I was like an okay guy. You never had a girlfriend. I never had a girlfriend. With those eyes, you never had a girlfriend. Never, never because I couldn't know how to speak to women. I did. So, so when I finished my primary school, the elementary school, my parents took me, took me into a much richer school, much more expensive school. And my parents were university professors and judges, so they only, like, they were government employees. So they can kind

of scrapped in order to push me to that, that was the best school in town. Which is great, but the problem is you end up with all of rich kids. So you feel that you're less, you feel you're not like there. So people didn't mind me, they were not mean to me or anything. But I was in Boyfriend Material. I played sports very well, and I was an nerd. So I was like a typical nerd, those glasses and nobody wants to talk to him.

But I wasn't cool. I was one of the cool kids with all of the experiences and the money. And then when I finished the school, I went to the medical school. Now medical school there, I have some government. So everybody from all of the country comes in. All of the people who go to the free schools.

And these people are dialect nerds. Big time nerd. So I come in. I am from the rich school. Now I am the, I'm the soft kid from the kids school. You're not the elite. Yeah, I'm the elite. And then I, so I, I always felt that I'm out of place.

I never felt that I belonged to anybody. And whether or not you're funny or not, well, there's other doctors who are funny. People make fun in the operating room. But the fact that actually you do show that was not even there. So it just took me like three, four YouTube videos that I produced it, put it online, didn't think about it at all,

and it just blew up. Wait, but you have to know like before you've had glimpses of you make people laugh and get a reaction. Now, like, you know how well girl knows she's beautiful. I don't know what it is to be a beautiful girl, but I would assume this girl at 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 years old, she's like, why are grown men checking me out? Why is it that they look at me the way they do?

Or a man that all of a sudden you see how a woman looks that you're like, you can read a lot when you see someone's eyes, right? You never had a glimpse of people watching you and saying this guy's super funny and likable. I had people think that I'm funny. People think that I'm not. It's just like I was like, I'm not,

I was not super wild. Out of the range, like, I thought this guy was supposed to be a funny guy. I'm out No, no what I for me what I mean like this as well this when the cameras on and your Performing like you've been doing this your entire life, you know You've been you've been making people laugh and think and satire you've been doing that for a long time Your show was on for for what three years three and a half years. Three and a half years, and it was the top show. Yeah. Everybody's watching it. Everybody. But it wasn't because of me. The whole idea, I just chose a different direction to make it funny but also deep. So the people that

the crazy jokes, I wouldn't be writing that crazy jokes. It's about the direction and how to utilize these jokes and utilize the direction. So a lot of people come to me like, ah, jokes, ha, ha, I said, and I'll tell them these jokes are not taking us anyway. You're just like, these are circular jokes. My style was, how can we use the jokes in order to advance what we want to say?

So me, I was kind of like the older guy, by that time I was older, I was 37. All of the kids were like 24. So they were all about like the zingers and the punchline. And said, yes, we're going to use that, but in what context? So for me, it's more of like, I'm the manager. I'm telling them like, we need to have the comedy

We need to have that because there was other political satire show But they all failed because they were you all about like the cheap laughs the cheap laughs the quick laughs from the Sticks versus story. Yeah. Yeah for me It's like all about like storytelling or like a beginning and a middle and end of what that segment what will be like what how the people would leave Feeling about that? So that was me. Interesting. But as a kind of like, aha, comedy, hilarious,

I was not the best one. When you were on Pierce, did you write, did you write what you were gonna say? You were just kind of said it, you didn't know what you were gonna say. No, I'm a nerd, I write everything. So when you were on Pierce, you were prepared on what you were gonna tell Pierce.

I got it. Now it's not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's chart. No, no, no, no, but the liner, I'm not talking about, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Israel thing that that would go on as like well in order to intimidate the people and they make some sort of well you just Compare it Israel twice. So all of these traps. I it was it was prepared And what year did you make this transition from the medical field to comedy that was 2011? 2011 I was That time I was an attending doctor. I had my master's, I had my MD's and I

passed my know-it-semi-li exams and I already applied to a fellowship in Cleveland and I was waiting for it and as I was waiting the Arab Spring happened. So I made these videos and I thought like, you know, maybe I'll put these videos like online or something and after one year somebody will discover me and get me as a writer on at the television show like that so the in two weeks it went viral and then by three weeks I'm getting television offers. Who called you? Who called you first? Everybody, Al Jazeera Al-Hayas, CBC, on TV, all of these like the local channels and then some of the regional channels started

starting to call. And then we ended up with a smaller television show. They didn't give us the biggest amount of money, but they gave us a little bit of freedom. And then after one episode, we started to go, do, want to do with life audience. And I did that because I visited the John Stewart offices to shadow his team. And I didn't, I visited John Stewart offices to shadow his team.

And I didn't, I wasn't asking for more, just one selfie was John. But then he came in and said, oh, I know about you. What you like to come on the show? It's like, yes, so inviting me on the show. And then we made a promise. It's like, do you promise me to come to the show? If I made it a live audience show, he said, I promised. The year later, he came to my show. That is so cool.

What year was that that you want to see John Stewart? I want to see him 2011 and 2012. Okay. He came to I promised. The year later, he came to my show. That is so cool. What year was that that you went to see John Stewart? I went to see him 2011 and 2012. Okay, he came to my show. So 2011, I'm just trying to understand your background. So it's quite 2012 and then 2013, he came. So 2011, the Arab Spring's going on in, you know, 2005, 2006, it's going on in Egypt. The Arab Spring started 2011.

Oh, that wasn't there on earlier. Okay, I don't know. So back to Egypt, you had LCC. Now you had Mubarak, you had Morsi. All the people's going on. In your country. Let me, let me, so before 2011, Mubarak was there. Mubarak was there for 30 years. Yeah.

And when I joke about this, like, oh my god, he had a present for 30 years. And I say, in the Middle East, that's a very short. The first time. And then, so Mubarak didn't survive 2011. He was taken over by the army. And then the elections Muslim brother could won the elections.

So now it's like an Islamist kind of, it's an Islamist authority. So when someone is on authority, you make fun of them. So of course, the Islamist who used to like me now said, like, how you're doing this because you hate Islam. You're an Islamist. We have that things too. You guys have Islamophobic?

Yeah, if you may, listen. Words like Islamophobic, transphobic, racist, anti-Semite, whatever, all of this is used in order to shut down conversation. So instead of actually trying to have you, like, if I say something about Islam or about Islam, politically Islam, you can discuss, like discuss the, or think about whatever is happening in Israel, or you can just shut it down, or you're anti-Somai. That's where I was at number four.

Yeah. And that is like a very simplistic and... Conversation killer. Back to what I was asking. So you meet John Stewart. You know, they say that luck is when preparation meets opportunity, right? Like you're starting to be a medical doctor, but obviously you're politically savvy. You know what's going on, socioeconomic.

You understand Islam. You meet this Jewish guy, John Stewart. We just saw you do the Mark Twain award where you sarcastically poured love out to him. It was a great speech. Describe that relationship. He's a Jewish guy, massive in media. In 2011, 2012, Obama's president, he's still doing the daily show.

He retires in 2016 right before Trump comes in. Best time for him to probably be there. We also what happened the daily show with Trevor Noah. Now he's off. Describe that relationship. What did he do for you? What did you try to mirror with John Stewart? The good, the bad, the ugly.

He's Jewish, your Muslim. Just give us a little background. So I was watching John Stewart since 2003, 2004. We, we, at that time, we used to watch it on YouTube. And the first time I saw him, I didn't understand what was he saying. So in order to understand, I had to educate myself about Republicans and about Democrats and about,

but I, because it seems to be very funny, but I didn't understand the political context. So for me, John Stewart became the source of American politics, and I was fascinated how people can make fun of politics that good. So I had this dream of mine for eight years that I would have a certain show like this in Egypt. So I would even write certain drafts of television shows and make up there.

But I kind of like left it. So we're living under dictatorship. There's no way this book is going to happen. And then when 2011 happened and the show exploded, the foreign press started to come and see those people in Egypt, all of those people in the political activists, the revolution, and then of course they came and talked to me and the first English speaking, English speaking publication was the Daily Beast. And on that day I decided to plug John Stewart in every single way possible.

So they will say, what's your inspiration? John Stewart. But do you eat three times a day? John Stewart. Who do you three most? John Stewart. So it worked because the headline of that article was Bessimusuf, the John John Stuart of the night. And since then it caught up. So my name and John Stuart became synonymous. And that was for me important. So they were

nours outside. So by the time that I asked to shadow his team, his team already knows about me. He already knew about me. So when I went in, all I wanted to have like a selfie with him and just shadow his team, but he said, he saw me. He's like, hey dude, how are you? Let's go to my office. We sat in his office, I thought we were sitting for five days. We sat down, cocking for an hour and a half. Awesome, so that relationship's built,

and you're looking at a style. You're like, well, I'm gonna do the same model here, right? But in America, you can get away making fun of presidents and political powers and all this stuff. And you're the first sat-tired TV show in the Middle East type of thing. This is not a business model in the Middle East. It's not like, hey, I'm gonna go be the first this.

Yeah, there's a reason why there's not this in the Middle East, right? Because when was it when you pushed the envelope with a joke or something you're... You guys said where you got a knock and you're like, hey man, you know, all this stuff is fine, but you're kind of like increasing the temperature. And this joke is not going to fly here. It was with every single episode. Every single episode. Yeah, yeah, because we were trying... There was political satire in the Arab world before I did it, but it was a kind of satire that avoids the obvious.

We don't talk about the President, we talk about the Minister. We don't talk about the Prime Minister, we talk about the low life employees. Here, when the President went out, I would just like mock him. And that was something unprecedented. So, when the Muslim brotherhood came to a power, they were not very popular by many people. They still have like a huge base. So I started making fun of them. And for a lot of people, it's like he had like those Islamist, yeah, they made me, they had to make fun. But the Islamists were

very angry. Now when the Islamists were removed by the army, that was the challenge, because the army is untouchable. The army is much more sacred than religion. So I started kind of like trading around it, and that was enough for me to get canceled once and twice. I got interrogated and arrested under Muslim brotherhood, and I got canceled twice and had my signal jammed a couple of times under the army. And I was going to jail under the army

and then the last minute I left in November 25th, 2014. Was it, did anybody know you were leaving or no? What? The people know you were leaving? No, they came up with a verdict finding me 150 million pounds, which is about 15 million dollars at a time, for legal issues with my channels.

Of course, they will choose other kind of, they're not going to say because of freedom of speech. So my lawyer said, you need to leave the country right now. So the verdict was at 12 noon, 4 o'clock, I was out of the house. This is November 11, 2014. Yeah. And when you left, you're leaving how? Are you leaving like underground, leaving, or you just went straight to the airport, they didn't have time to put my name.

Wow. So from that point, right now, Boston, like right now, are they, like if you went back, would you be flagged, would they be like, hey, you're back? I don't think so. I have an American passport now, and they're trying to be nice to me, and I don't think so. I have an American passport now and they're trying to be nice to me and I don't care. Good. They, and they sent a lot of people to kind of, you know, it's, you know, it was with authoritarian regimes like this, you don't know because one day somebody from them said, hey, you two country,

you need to come back. And the next day I land in Jordan on the way to Paris and I get detained to be delivered for the Egyptian. And you don't know who you're talking to. Like one day they tell you, oh, you're mine. There's nothing wrong with basmium. You can come any day. And the next day they send me hecklers in my shows in New York to spoil my show.

This is one, 2014, 2015, 2016. How long did that last? It did that like four or five times and then when I, and then the New Yorker wrote about that. It's actually you can find it in the New Yorker called the Hacling of the John Stuart of Egypt. I'm I actually am happy that they have a cartoon of me on the New Yorker. So it's called the Hacling of the John Stuart of Egypt and the reporter there attended it and he actually described how he areas how the people of the promulgatory people were in Washington and New York were were heggling me and they were

shouting at me and even one of them went up and sang the Egyptian national anthem in the middle of my comedy show. So it's crazy like one day you're like, oh, you're fine, he's your son, he's Egyptian, you can come back to your country and then the next day you do that. Wow.

Who wants you to shut up? Who wants to keep you silent? You know, you see what happens with someone rushed, there's a fat one here. I'm not saying that's the case here, but clearly there's people that are like, shut your mouth. Who wants you to keep you silent?

In any regime, in any regime, you will have the doves and the hocks. There's always, there's always the people, no, every fine thing, it's fine. No, no, these should die. In every single regime, there's always always like that. So I think like the nicer people want me back and kind of like the vicious ones want me that. But the Egyptian regime under LCC specifically. Yeah, but you'll find that in any regime, not just CCC. If it was in Islamic regime, you'll find dogs and vultures, same. But yeah, it seems that the dogs always try to get me back and the vultures want to.

But at the end of the day, the hawks or the vultures, as you call them, they're going to be the resounding voice in this regime. Basim, you're so basim, you come here, you're in the states, you're doing stand-up, you're doing your thing. Are you immediately getting a show signed, working, making money, and are you? I'm to sterable, I came here in a three, four years of darkness. That's what I'm trying to do, little gigs here and there, and I was not

making it too terrible. And the problem is when you try to do something here, you already have the massive following that followed me in the Middle East. And then they come and see me doing little things because I cannot come here and just like, you know, hit the floor running. And one of it is the, did like some YouTube sketches, I did some stand up and I sucked because that I needed to learn something in my second language. And I was not good. Like anybody who was starting anything new and I would come to my show and I can see the disappointment in their eyes and I can very disappointed and I would like go back

for a very long crying nights, saying I'm done, I'm a husband and it took me some while. Are you married at the time? Okay, you came here married? I married all through, yeah. Okay, God and while you're going through this, have you made already millions on top of millions of dollars that you've saved so you don't have to make money ever again? Like, because you're living in New York. It's very expensive living in New York. I live in Los Angeles. Okay.

At the time you didn't come to New York. You went straight to LA. No. I went to the Dubai for a few months, stayed with people who helped me and then I went to Northern San Francisco, Oakland, stayed with people and then I moved to a small, very small apartment in Los Angeles. You don't have money at the start? I do, but they were like doing gling.

They were like, because a lot of stuff that I couldn't get out of Egypt. So financially I wasn't very good at doing very well and I was just like speaking universities on TV. But I said I cannot go to university speak to say the same thing all over and over again. So I started to do my own act. So I started doing stand-up comedy and the first two years it was terrible. So the little money I had I went to higher comedians too so they can see me perform. I didn't hide them to write me jokes because I knew what kind of story I would tell. But I want them to kind of punch out my style.

It's not also about the writing. It's about the cadence and the rhythm and the speed and the delivery, which is different from one language to the other. So I had to learn that in a language that's not mine. So you can see, it's not like I'm getting like an Arabic joke and you're it into English. So I had to kind of rewire my brain.

And it was terrible as I said in the beginning. And only two years ago, it became better. And my English stand-up comedy has actually been touring and feeling like theaters and on Konyukla. So it's been going well. And so when the Peers Morgan came, it seems that it came the right time because if the Peers Morgan game

thing came like two years ago, I wouldn't been ready. People will come and see those, see like a bad show. But now they come to see someone, oh, he's actually like a good comedian, whether in English and in Arabic. So I think it's the time it was perfect. And there's not that many people about some that can do like both language, stand up comedy. Oh, you're doing an hour and hour.

Yeah. The Arabic shows a little bit longer and hour and a half. The English shows that hour. Yeah. And we've been doing now very new experiences. So just the improv in Irvine, I did a whole weekend in Arabic. And that's the first time ever, like a franchise comedy club would actually host something that's not in English. Here in Miami, I'm doing two Arabic and three English in the same weekend. That's awesome.

So, the fact that you bring in another language to the comedy club, not just that you bring in other audiences to come to the comedy club, not just that you're bringing another audience to come and see an Arabic. What they love about the other comedy clubs, they say, you bring people that they we never see because Arabs is not part of their culture to come and send up comedy show. They go out to eat, the movies, they're not as moles, to come in and get seated and listen to comedy, someone speaking to them like that. That's very new. And I'm pretty sure, because we're middle eastern, I can't only imagine,

because that rarely happens, an Arabic guy coming to the standup comedy. Imagine the audience, but imagine the response of people like, hey, where are all these band brown people coming from? People must be shocked, like, who the hell are all these? But you know, there's an element to that, that happened in golf, right?

Tiger started playing golf, you know, everybody's like, hey, you know, I playing golf, you know, everybody's like, hey, you know, I'm interested. You know, I thought it was only a white man sport. No, I want to play the game. And you bring, you know, there's some of that happens a little like when I went to Mazza's show, Mazza had a bunch of, you know, Persians, you know,

even Tehran, Tehran is an interesting character, right? The black Persian guy, he's not there. And funny as hell. Yeah. You know, first time I saw Tehran perform was, man, probably over a decade ago. And he says, let me guess, you look like an Iranian finance guy that drives a 750 BMW.

I'm sitting next to Jellamaghaj. Shit, I came with the BMW. It's a 50. Bingo. So, you know, it's great to see that. It's great to see what's happened and now the fact that the timing of it of when it took off where you're actually are able to also deliver on the performance side. Let's talk about...

Actually, me and Mez and Tahran are going together to Dubai, May 24th. No, fantastic. A big double bill. Fantastic. And Dubai is one of the few countries in the Middle release where you can just say what you want to say There's without the fear of getting your head chopped off. No, you can let you know you have Dubai you have Bahrain you have Kuwait you have the Gulf Lebanon. Yeah, Lebanon, Jordan. I played on all of these but not Egypt Not me

It's actually like Russell Peters was just an Egypt. Was it? Are there any Middle Eastern countries you just would not feel safe going or just completely uncomfortable going there telling jokes? What what countries? For now for me, Egypt straight up. Like would you go to Afghanistan? Would you go to Iraq? Would you go to Syria?

I've got to understand. No, Syria. No. Iraq. No. Would you ever perform in Israel? No, you would not Why they would accept you I don't accept You don't accept Israel the state of Israel. No, I don't accept them making care of me getting in That's the problem problems you're going in Israel. It's not about going in Israel

Not is that the fact that they really show you a terrible time you go in in Israel, it's not about going in Israel, not, is that the fact that they really show you a terrible time, you go in in the security, they treat you like shit. Really? Yeah, I mean, I've been invited by Palestinians a lot to go to there and select, I would go to you, but like, I don't want to deal with the border control of Israel, it's just they, because they humiliate you. And that's because you're Arab or that's because they're not leaving. Yeah, but they're treating them like shit. Not according to them. I've seen them.

I've met them too. I mean, they don't have, like, do you talk about the 20% of Palestinians? I'm talking about the 20% of Israelis are Muslims or Arabs. If given a choice to move to any other Middle Eastern country, given the state of circumstances in the Middle East, they would choose 100 times out of 100 to stay in the democracy of Israel. Why don't they leave?

Have you talked to them about their health care and their schools? Because they're about 25 Arab cities that didn't have hospitals or schools. They have to take... In Gaza and the West Bank? No, I'm talking about inside Israel. I'm talking about Arabs with Israeli passports.

Fully fledged Israeli citizens. They don't have a single cinema. They don't have a single hospital. They don't have a single school in their cities. And they have to go to the Jewish states in order to go there. There are many many many many daily microaggressions against the Arabs who live in Israel having the Israeli passport. Even within the past, Israeli passport, Israeli community, you have slurs like Arabic Maluchlach which actually, they're inward.

They're, I mean, I can go on and on and on about it. But slurs are gonna be everywhere in America. Where all you call their slurs. Yeah. Every day I get called a dirty Jew, you think I'm crying? No, but like every day here, if you find something like nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger, you'll, that would be, you know, like, yeah.

Basically, 200 years of America. Exactly. But like, when you have like a one part of them, it's much, much stronger. Like you control the other one and all they do is like slurs because the arrows cannot do slurs against the age of. So why don't they leave? Well some of them actually, because it is basically it is between a like a shock and a heart place. Yeah, they are the whole idea about like arrows living a wonderful life, they're living good life compared to other Arab countries, which is a real war.

And the fact that like, I can use like a low bar to sell them and release their happy nose. Like I'm living here because I don't know where else to go. I appreciate you saying that because the bar in many, many Middle Eastern countries is very low. I'm not coming here to defend any countries in the world. I know you're not. I'm asking what countries you want to go on tour saying that the security and

the Inquality equality that Israel wants you to think that they have it between all of their Arabs. It is not true They have something called zoning Committees where you as an Arab coming in as to get an auction to get a house in a Jewish town, you will not be allowed to take it. It happened more and more and more before. It happened in Nazarite-Lit, in many cities that actually talked about those like an auction, where they found that most of the people who are getting the houses were Arabs and the city cancelled the auctions. And the canceled auctions saying

that we want to preserve the city of Tarshihah as a Jewish, Zionist, secular country. So I don't know how Zionist, Zionist, and secular and Zionist come in the same city. So. It's interesting to question your asking, right? and then it would go with enzymes coming the same, so it's a deep term. It's interesting to question your asking, right? Because like I'll sit there and if you want to read this real quick, I'll sit there and I'll talk to my friends

in California and I'll say, yeah, you know, California just don't say, I hate California, I hate this, I hate that, I hate this. And you're so, yo, want you leave. I can't leave California, why can't you leave California? Well, because my family's here, my Una's here, my kids are here, my uncle, my aunt, my grandma, ta-da-da-da-da.

Okay, got it. But I hated here, I wish I was living in Texas, or I was living in Florida, whatever, okay. Some people here, I can't believe, you know, ta-da-da, okay, want you leave? Well, I can't, you know, this is that. We lived in Iran. We left, lived in Tehran for 10 years.

And I mean, I went to school there till 5th grade. I breathed right, far see everything till I left, and I went to Germany, right? I lived in Germany for year and a half, and we finally get here. Like, holy shit, we make it to America, right? It's like a dream. But the people that, it's not the people that can't leave

that give the argument or why don't they leave. It's the people that can't leave that choose to stay. Why do you choose to stay? I got love to have a room full of 50 people who are Arabs who can choose to leave Israel. Why are you not leaving? Makes sense? Just to kind of get an idea. What would you say? why are you not leaving? Make sense just to kind of get an idea. What would you say? Why are you not leaving? Right? If you have the ability to leave,

you can go to a different place. Why don't you do that? Why do two million people in Gaza being bombed every single day for a hundred days? Why don't they leave? Because that's a land. Right? That you can be living in a very shitty situation.

But you will not leave because you know that you're not going gonna get back again. There is those people living as a 2.2 million people, they're living under subhuman conditions. They could leave, as a matter of fact, everybody pushing them to leave through soy now. I've never said, I don't know, we will not leave because this is our land.

Sometimes you get connected to the land and it doesn't matter how bad. So to answer your question, why don't you leave? Because that's your land. Yeah, I'm talking about the Arabs in Israel but yeah because they consider that still their land. Yeah but there's so many different ways we can have this conversation but everything for me comes down to socio-economics okay. To me I'm always wondering why is the Gaza the Palestinian plight at the forefront of the news?

Right now we're starting to see Yemen in the news. People will realize for 10 years there have been a civil war with the Houthi rebels, Saudis, Sunnis, Shiites, Iranian-backed militants, killing each other, never in the news. Syria, tens and tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, people murdered. We know what's going on in Iraq.

We're going off in Afghanistan. This is not an anomaly in the Middle East. But in my opinion, humbly with all due respect, what's going on in Gaza is the equivalent of BLM in the States. What do I mean? So black on black crime, every single weekend in Baltimore and DC and Chicago, you name the city, there's black on black crime.

Let one cop kill a black guy, George Floyd, national, international news. In the Middle East, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, you name it, Iraq, every day. Muslims are killing other Muslims. A lot of it is Islamists, fundamentalists. There's no marches, there's no protests, but Israel defends itself after October 7th and I've seen you condemn Hamas for October 7th, but you've

also sympathized with the Palestinians as you should. But all of a sudden that's the biggest story in the news. Why the distinguishment? Why can't Muslims say- There's a difference between comparing conflicts, conflicts civil war and then allowing another country to bomb you from the sky every single day for a hundred days. You're gonna compare the both and actually your tone of voice when you say oh there is like black and black Arabs killing each other in your undertone is saying yeah they they don't deserve to live. So let's just wait zero percent. This is exactly Zero percent. No, no, no, no, this is what's saying. I asked a question. You're reading and doing you have absolutely no sympathy for the Palestinian killing because Not sure. Don't put words my own no, no, seriously

I don't know Your your your entrance into this Conversation is extremely racist because you say well, I have been killing each other first of all the Arabs have been killing each other. First of all, the Arabs have been killing each other. These are called either proxy wars or civil wars. But you, this is different because A, the America is not standing behind Saudi Arabia voting every single UN's resolution, like Israel, Israeli-skilling Palestinians, and nobody can do anything for them in the UN or the Security Council.

You can talk about how Saudis are killing the Houthis or the Aminis or how Iran. But when they go to the Security Council, America doesn't use the vote. The veto. You know how many vetoes did America use since the inception of the Security Council? How many? Tome. 88. How many of those were they used in order to protect Israel from a veto? 56. The superpower of the world, over 50 years, used more than 65% of its veto power to

protect one's own country. You cannot compare both. So, what do you think that is? Why is Israel so aligned with Israel? I'm sorry, why is you so aligned with Israel? I'm sorry. Why is US so aligned with Israel over? God's I don't know. I mean, there's like a me there's a me there's a me why why do you want to know? Tell me because they're white like them They're allowed to go to white. Well, I mean a lot of Americans consume who's what israel is the white But you know for for a fact. I know I know most Israelis are It's a fart again. They're brown. It's the perception. It's the perception.

Exactly. It's a perception. So this is how Israel promotes itself. We are a secular. We are a democratic country. I have never seen a secular or a democratic country that would actually give contraception shots to its own citizens, to their Ethiopian Jews, and make them not to reproduce. And until 2013, they have confessed to him that they have been doing this for 10 years. That is not a democratic country. I have never heard a secular country, a democratic country that would kidnap little kids from Yemeni Jews in 1950, and then take them away away and then tell their parents that they die. And they did that in order to instill Semitic, GNA in their population.

That's why DNA testing is not allowed in Israel. So are you pro-Islam? Are you anti-Israel or both? I'm not pro-humanity man. So it doesn't matter my religion is I don't care actually and I can give you a hundred things I can tell you about Islamic countries that they do wrong. So what happens what happens is right now is that the people who are bombing people only every single day

they are not Yemenis they're not Hothis and not Saudis there is railings for a hundred days they have brought they have dropped almost three nuclear weapons on an open air pressure in prison, and all because of Hamas, dude, if ISIS was already there, you have no excuse to kill 30,000 people. You can't say words like nuclear weapons when it's not true, boss. And you know that? The equivalent of three, no, I can't. I can't.

So now they're dropping nuclear weapons? That's what I said. I said like that. I said like they're dropping the equivalent of three, no, I can't, I can't, I can't. So now they're dropping nuclear weapons. That's what I said, like, get me out of this one. I said, like, they're dropping the equivalent of three no-click weapon. So how many people have died in Gaza? 30,000 people. Okay, according to Hamas, obviously you and get their number from Hamas. So over the last, you have a number that you trust? No, I don't have any number that I trust, but I'll take your word for it.

I don't think that's so. So how many, so how many, how of Muslims how many people in Israel died in October 7 according to the numbers 1200 but according to who but the numbers are still being counted according to According to the idea. Oh, but I don't trust the idea Whether you do or you don't those are the numbers that we're working well I'm giving you 5,000 people died and you said you don't trust them. So what I said, that's not what I said. I said according to Hamas.

Yeah, but whether I believe in them, when you say according to Hamas, it's like it's the underpinned that you don't believe the numbers. With with with all due respect, you're missing my point 30,000 other than the Hamas fighters because I will I will stand to kill these people. I hope zero civilians die. But we know what happens. But they die. Of course.

Every day. But let's go back to my initial question. No, no, no, no, no, no. Let me ask this question and then you can pick them up. How do you think how many people do? But what about the 100? Zero. Zero.

But they're killing it. OK, but that's on my point, Basin. My point is there's 30 to 30. Can I ask the question? Can I ask the question? And then you can have the full-fuel response. Why is this issue at the forefront of the news when hundreds of thousands, since 9.11,

five million plus people in the Middle East have died. Five million versus 30,000, where the marches, where the protests. You haven't been around. You just haven't been around. But I also read the newspaper so I see what's going on. Because there has been marches against what happened in Yemen. There have been massive marches against what happened in Iraq.

If you ask the average person, they couldn't tell you that there's a war in Yemen. There is a difference. But if you ask the average American, they know what is exactly going on in Israel. Here's the thing. These mental gymnastics where you want to divert people to other conflicts. These conflicts are proxy wars, these conflicts are civil war, terrible, horrible.

Civil war, this means civil war happening in all kind of Asian and African countries. The only difference is that that is a foreign country invading another country, like exactly Russia invaded Ukraine, and then everybody is sitting there. All they ask is ceasefire because one of the people in that conflict is a country that has been financed, given money by the US. It is considered as part of the free world because they are secular, because they are democratic, and they are committing war crimes every single day under the eyes of the United States, of the UN and the Security Council.

And that is why it is different. Fair enough. So civil wars are totally okay. But the civil war don't look at, those are people just doing everything. Did I ever say that civil war is okay? Well, you basically equivilized, let's have a civil war, 5 million people die across them at least. Yeah, it is terrible. It's as if nobody knew.

Usually the civil war is really supported by like two proxy people and they are like killing each other and it's terrible and they're trying to do it. At the same time, those people are not just like killing them. They're killing them, want to push them out, openly saying that we are gonna push Palestinians into the Sinai, basically that is my country. All right. The only people shouting for the river to the sea are the gauze.

Well, Palestine will be free. So what does the free Palestine mean? You know what's the difference between regular people in the street shouting from the river and the sea? These are regular people that are carrying flags in the street. You know what's happened on the other side? You have government official like Bidzail, like the minister of finance.

You have bin Rafir who is the minister of national security, both of them by the way, were arrested many times for acts of terrorism against their own country. Are you the Israeli prime ministers? They are the ministers. Not the prime ministers ministers of certain. Yeah. So do you mean to tell me that Ya Ya Sin War was the head of Hamas or Makmoud Abbas was

the head of the pillow? They're not politically saying from the river to the sea. So we're going to use that equivalent. So you didn't even use that equivalence. You didn't even finish making this. So first of all, you are comparing a militant group, a terrorist group, with a secular democratic country. This is a secular democratic country that I'm telling you about.

They have ministers coming up with a map of greater Israel behind of them and they openly talk about them. Which is, by the way, if you don't know, the greater Israel map is from the river to the Euphrates, including part of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Lebanon and Syria, and of course Palestine. So that is the official talk of the official ministers. So you want to kind of ignore this and you go after random people in the streets with flags saying from the river to the sea, don't you see that comparison is a little bit... Well, it's not just random people, it is Hamas who is the governing body of Gaza.

Hamas? But the point of a democracy, what do you mean? Hamas at the end of the day, they're a militant group, they're a militant group, they're ISIS, you don't take them seriously, militant group, don't take them seriously. They're the leaders of Gaza, I'm talking about it. I'm talking about it. They were elected in 2006 and as your joke said, yeah, a 30 year 2006 when nobody actually was alive by then, like now, like people there, how many people who were alive,

50% of Gaza was not alive. So if you did an election right now, they're not going to be the rule of the rule of the rule of the rule. Yeah, but you didn't do an election. That's the point. Why is that? Why is that? basically they kicked out Fatha and the PLO and they're running the West Bank and and Israel didn't put them under Blockade and kid their their there is an argument to be made there You think that I'm saying that Israel is completely innocent? Do you think I would say that the US is completely innocent? You say that we had a debacle in Iraq with the Baku in Afghanistan There's no perfect country. There's no there's no innocent country listen

This is this is what you do and I going to say what you do is what American is doing all of this like pro let's kill them all. No, no, no, you, you've already put words on my mouth. You called me racist. You think that I want to kill everybody. I know you, I've said none of those work. You kill people. And then you ask questions later. You kill people. You ask questions. He doesn't know what Hamas. America dead. Hamas is a terrorist group you are comparing Hamas every time you compare Hamas I'm bringing you Israel and is an America which are supposedly democratic countries Hamas

and ISIS and whatever these people are not like an good example right agree I agree so when you tell me Hamas all right fine Hamas horrible people let's talk about the leaders of the free world. America, they killed first, the as questioned later, and the result of Afghanistan and Iraq. Disasters. I'm not going to argue with them. Israel killed later, and then the result, what's happening in Gaza, and what's been happening in Gaza is there's no justification for Israel to kill 30,000 people right now.

And all the thing about October 7th, many of them who are, can you tell me where are the decapitated babies? What are their names? Can you get me their names? You want me to go over every dead, decapitated Israeli babies name? I think that story was the refute, wasn't it? It was refute many times. It was the biggest story then.

What's your point that Hamas didn't kill babies? I didn't say it. I would say if you have it. There's hundreds of people kidnapped by Hamas. What's your point? No, no, no They're kidnapped. Yes, in fact You're saying that If a terrorist group would decapitate people if terrorist group would burn people you know what terrorist groups does they terrorize They will show them off like ISIS. They were burning people in cages All right, we will not find about the atrocities of rape or about decapitating from other sources because the terrorist group by design terrorizes.

They will go in with their GoPro, they will show you the babies that they decapitated. They will not go on a highway, it's like, oh my, we didn't do it because terrorist groups did that. Remember ISIS, when they were burning people and cages, they like to promote their terror because there is group want to to rise the public. We have not seen anything of that. That's one of the most naive comments I've ever heard. We've seen videos, countless videos of them gang raping women and then blowing their head off while they chop off one of their breasts.

We've seen these videos. No, you haven't. Captain, are you fucking crazy? You haven't seen it. Of course we've seen this video. You haven't seen it. We've seen dead bodies littered all over Keyboard says. You have read about this. Okay, I can go watch the videos.

I can't. You're choosing, this is selective ignorance. This is selective ignorance. That's like me saying, if that's like me saying, of course Israel is not bombing and discriminately. No, they have. And I'm at least willing to own that. And I'm not Israeli.

I'm American. By the way, I'm not defending Hamas. They did. But you are equivalent. But what I'm saying, what I'm saying, what I'm saying is all of these like decapitating babies that's wrong. That never happened. Okay. It was only a few. A few. How many? Dude, I'm not there on the ground.

What there didn't. So what's your argument? We have to clear here. We have to clear everything. What's your argument? That they didn't decapitate one baby's head. No, no, no. So what are you saying?

I said that what the Hamas did was terrible, but it was inflated by things to make it emotional, to think that it's okay to kill all of those people. You was inflated. So it wasn't 1200, how much was it? I don't know. Okay. So Israel, these numbers are inflated.

1200, but the 30,000 from Hamas is not inflated. You're talking out of Osama to your mother. As a matter of fact, according to Israel, Israeli survivors, they said that many of these casualties happen because Israeli troops came in and in the scrimately killed everybody, including the hostages. That's then, first of all, I've heard that story

I've been covering. First of all, because you are not covering, because you have not listening to the survivors from the Israelis on set up the family. Every morning I read credible sources, Wall Street Journal, Fox News, Bloomberg. Okay, so what are you reading? Hamas.com, like where are you getting your sources?

Hearts. Okay, hearts, yeah. The Israeli newspaper, Israel. Yes, of course, I read those too. You have actually brought people. I've never heard them say one time that 1200 people were not murdered I didn't want paper. No, no, I didn't say okay

I said many of those numbers that were killed they were killed because of the discriminating Interference by the Israeli troops and many of them died because of four people were killed that way when they tried to Rescue the hostages. No, that did the fact that you're trying to Acquivicate 1200 people related the game you're late in the game There was a woman that was named Stalia. She came out on an Israeli podcast and you said that everybody in the kaput's were tired

and then we went out and we say that this really tank, the one that fired on the whole of the kaput's. This is bullshit stories. You think the idea of it just coming in and then just spraying down kibbutzes? That's like saying American troops are just coming into a conflict here. It's called the end just spraying down fellow Americans. that's like saying American troops are just coming into a conflict here. It's called it's spraying down fellow Americans. It's called the honeymoon. It's called the honeymoon protocol. Look at it. Yeah, we'll look it up. But I think that's bullshit.

What's on got I want to ask you a question. So going going to that day all the stuff that we found out since that day. We we found out Rob that they knew apparently they had information intelligence for a year that it was going to happen. The day that it happened, apparently all the defenses were down. Hamas got to run rampant for six hours. Mayhem, they asked John Kirby went up and one of the reporters from Fox asked, how did you guys not see this with all the intelligence? And he said, and I quote, now is not the time. Since October, it's not what?

October, November, December, we're in January right now. They still don't know. We saw this thing called the Jericho wall where Israel, a leaked document where Israel already had a plan of what to do with all these, all the displaced people. They want to send them all to Egypt and all the countries

in the United States. BB Nanyahu was on a video saying how he could do whatever he wants in Gaza because Americans are gullible and he could do whatever on the home video. Basin, what do you, do you have an opinion on the knowledge, the pre-knowledge of this was going to happen and the fact that they got to wait,

they got to do whatever they want. For six hours it was one of the sickest, military sickest intelligence. Do you think like they knew, they let it happen? What what's the How do you feel about? I know I'm no military expert at all, but like watching this the fact that they've been doing this for six hours and this is the most guarded Border ever. I mean you can't even you can't even have a dog passed by by without being shot and this these walls has been

tried and tested. And the fact that they again, and they continue, like the wall by itself is seven meters up, seven meters down the ground. It's one of the most fortified borders ever. And then you go in, the Apache didn't even appear until after six hours. That's the best way to go.

And you understand like how Israel Israel and Gaza and all of these these are very small. These are very small. This is like a plane can be there in two minutes. So I don't know. I mean, these are the questions that I don't want to go into conspiracy theories, but these are the questions that has the Israeli community has been asking.

This kind of failure. A lot of people inside, again conspiracy theories. I don't know, I don't want to adopt kind of failure. A lot of people inside, again, conspiracies, I don't know, I don't want to adopt any of them. It's like it's because of BB was having a lot of pressure from his Supreme Court, so he wanted something to kind of like divert it. And you know, when people want to divert something, like they make a conflict, but it kind of like it got out of hand. it got out of hand. And the fact you can go in, literally with very primitive weapons and go in inside of Israel and come up,

I mean, just a year ago, there were 50 Palestinians that were killed by snipers just because they came in closer to the border. And they were like holding flags. So the fact that they go in and you see like all of these military bases empty for the taking and coming back with cars and with people and with hostages, if I'm a Israeli citizen, I would be pissed.

Of course, I would like to have some answers. So I don't know. But Basum, let's go to the last thing. Because for me, I'm curious with solutions, right? Some say, well, this is going to keep happening. It's never going to stop. It's been going on for hundreds of years, a couple thousand years. It's going to be ongoing for another couple thousand years.

Perfect. Okay, fine. So that's one argument. Now, for the people that maybe are solution-oriented and they want to figure out a way to improve things. You said, oh, six, Hamas gets elected because, you know, what it was, but today it wouldn't happen. Today, if they do have an election, who controls the election? Because you were, you were a little bit, not elusive. You were not clear about why they're not having fair elections today. Who controls the election? I wish Hamas is not in charge of,

I wish the whole thing about the Islamization, should theism of this conflict is not there because that is making everything worse. So how do you get the whole idea about like putting so much religion on the Israeli side and on the Muslim side? It has actually, actually it is the reason why this conflict is getting worse and worse and worse. It's because now people are kind of grouting for the divine. And whenever you put religion in any conflict, this is going to get more and more. So, I think there is a fundamental problem between the rights of the Palestinians and the land of Palestine. Now, whether you create a Palestinian nation on the 22% after using like Jimmy Carter once said it is we have to have like a two state solution using Gaza using borders on 1967 with modification and landswamp.

That is like and that is what the Palestinian authority are actually accepting. Hamas does not accept that and there's other people who don't know, does not accept that. And in the same time people on the Hamas does not accept that. And there's other people who don't not accept that. And at the same time, people on the Israeli side does not accept that. You have people, radical people on both sides who want all or none and be a kind of fairly moderate people who want to stay in the middle and say, alright, let's have a little bit of a swap. But what is happening right now is, I want to stay, and there's two-state solution is being shot and dead a long time ago because even if Mininin Nithyao, when he came out and he bragged about how he have spoiled the Oslo accord and how Americans don't care

and we have manipulated them and 80% of America are with us so we can do whatever they want the hell we want even if we can't kill as many Palestinians as possible. And he goes there on camera when he does that. And there's no repercussions. I don't think it's going to get any better. And I think it's going to be a matter of time until those Palestinians will be, it's not today, it's not this year, it's still a year after, all of this Gaza will be cleared out and the Palestinians will be pushed into, into Sinai and Israel will take it over. And it will not stop like that because if you put 2.2 million people, put

them in Sinai, that will be a security threat because those people will have an open access to the sea and they will have weapons and then they will want to avenge what happened to them and they will go in and attack Israel. And now it's going to have a dual problem between a group of people, between Israel and Egypt and that will not get any better. So I'm just like telling you, I'm not very optimistic about what will happen because if you don't have justice and you don't have people what they want, they are just like people who are against justice in themselves and then they would be called militant terrorists, freedom fighters, no matter how you'd call them, but it's not going well. So regarding Gaza, and I'm trying to come from a solution-based approach here, to be honest. At the end of the day, everything comes down to money or security.

You need that? Everything comes down to money or security. So he's got to pull your shirt up. Oh, oh, oh. What's going on? The heater, Pat. He's got a bad back. Let's get his back right before I ask his question.

Hook up the shirt. That's all we played. Massage is we got a masseuse coming in the house. Well, thank you guys because I'm really in pain. I can't even. We've been traveling for, for, for, on many days. We have what is called unreasonable hospitality. Yeah, Pat can't even. You've been traveling for, for, on many days. I've, I've,

we have what is called unreasonable hospitality. Yeah, that doesn't play out. While we're having a friendly debate, we're gonna make sure that you're back. All right, so we're, okay, go ahead, solution for guys, go forward. Yeah.

Israel wants security, and Gaza, many countries are middle-aged, need and want prosperity, okay? Israel's whole thing, their whole contention is, listen, we just can't have another October 7th period, and we're going to do everything to protect our citizens. The people in Gaza, they're no different than other people in the Middle East, they want prosperity. The problem in the Middle East, in my opinion, my humble opinion, it's not just

an Islamic issue, certainly not just an Israeli issue, because it's, by the way, it is an Iranian issue. That's a tip of the spear when it comes to the mafia-like regime that's running Iran over there. But it's socio-economic. People need economic improvements. People need political certainty. And when you combine that with Islamic fundamentalism, you sprinkle in a little jihad, thrown a little anti-Zionism in rhetoric. You'll get what's going on in Gaza. But look at the countries that are thriving in the Middle East, and look at the countries that are basically the Gaza's of the Middle East.

Unemployment rates. People need jobs, okay? If kids don't have jobs, if youth unemployment is skyrocketing, what are these young people supposed to do? The highest unemployment rate in the Middle East, Jordan, 23%. Palestinians right next to them, and also at 23%.

Then you have Sudan, Libya, Tunisia, Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan, Iran, Morocco, Syria, Turkey, Egypt, all above 10% unemployment with the exception of your country of Egypt, 7%. Every single one of those countries, political up people, especially what's going on in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine. But did you notice that all the good countries, high unemployment rate, low unemployment rates, Qatar, 0.3%, one of the richest countries on earth they just had the world cup there

Richest country in the Middle East by rain 1.9% Israel 3.3% U.A. 3.4% by the way the UK's unemployment rate is 3 3.5% So UAE is better than the UK. Kuwait 3.7% same as the US When people don't have jobs and they don't have purpose and they don't have meaning and they can't work and they can't basically have political economic sustenance for their family they're gonna resort to violence that's why every single one of those countries that is 10% unemployment those countries are as Trump says shithole countries but all the nice countries Qatar UAE they're all thriving so it's not an Islamic problem it's an economic problem if you want to shithole countries, but all the nice countries, Qatar, UAE, they're all thriving. So it's not an Islamic problem, it's an economic problem.

Now, if you want to talk GDP just for my last point, the countries with the lowest GDP per persons, those countries are disasters. Afghanistan, you know what the average person of Afghanistan makes a year, $350 a year Afghanistan, Syria, 420, Yemen, 650, Sudan, $1,100, Morocco, 3,400 Palestinians. Above any of those guys, $3,700 a year, Lebanon, 4,000, Egypt, 4,200. Conversely, every single rich country has zero problems. Qatar, GDP, $87,000, better than the United States. Better than the United States. Israel, 55,000, UAE, 54,000, Kuwait, 40,000.

I can go on and on and on here. The bottom line is this, what I've seen in the Middle East. It comes down to socio-economics. Then you sprinkle in a little Islamism in there. Why is every rich country in the Middle East have no problems? But all the poor countries are suicide bombings, terrorists, Gaza had the opportunity to invest billions of dollars into infrastructure.

In what? Into infrastructure. But they built tunnels and bombs. But my question is, No, no. Here's my hair. You're wrong. You're wrong.

Gaza has not built tunnels and bombs. You're wrong. You said like as if there was like some sort of a prosperous source of economy and all of as I said took that and put it on in terms what you're missing here is Gaza since 2006 is under blockade and even the medicine, even the water, even the electricity is controlled by Israel. They don't have a word. I'm not asking you about Gaza. I'm asking you about the number of people in the nation. No, you want to focus on Gaza and then you want to turn it back on Israel.

I'm asking you specifically, let's not talk about Israel if that would make it. No, I'm listening. We can talk about Israel for the next two hours. You want to talk about other countries in the Arab world so we can prove that Arabs could be bombed at any time because we were fucking poor. No, that's what I'm saying. That's exactly what you're saying. No.

So they're just like poor people killing each other and we're just like they're watching. No I'm sorry that dude. I like you, but seriously your undertone is fucking racist from the beginning until the end You are looking at those people a lesser people who have made bad choices and because they are poor They are okay to be fucking bond by Israel. Okay, this is the third time you've used the racist word I'll never said that once about you your undertone is very very very offensively so when I read stats Yeah, you know my phone when I read stats you read the stats basically telling people like you see because they're rich They got this to themselves. They're the rich people are better the poor people are okay So we can have to kill them every now and then that's not what I said and you're putting words in my mouth And it's actually super disrespectful. I'm reading stats to you. I'm saying, how can we uplift the poor countries

in the Middle East? How can we turn? We'll have to look at, that's number one. No, no, no, no, I said the Middle East funny guy. I don't know what the blue case is. I said the Middle East. You're talking about Gaza. I'm naming all these countries that are thriving.

Qatar, by rain, UAE, Israel, Silicon Valley of the Middle East. What can be done with the countries that are quote unquote, shitholes. Okay, give me a country like a shithole, give me an example. I'm looking at the unemployment rates and all these countries. Let's give me one country. Afghanistan.

Syria. Afghanistan. Why have I understand that I became a shithole country? Because they endorsed the Taliban. They did. They did. Isn't that a little bit a for a reactive way to tell the history? Because at the beginning, there was no Taliban and then the Soviet Union came in and then America came in

Supported the Taliban make them bigger than they were and then at the end of the day They support it if you remember Rambo 3 Rambo 3 was supporting the Taliban So Taliban was really cool and even they were they were even Hailed by right-wing Christians as freedom fighters anti-communist and then what happened? America, some people like the Richard Wilson wall wanted into coming to put some schools that now now we spend We spend all of this money of tanks on on weapons. We don't need to put them schools. What happened? Taliban's flourished all because of America Interfied made it shitty left everything

Taliban flourished it and then America went in again spent two billion dollars making even two-tellerine laws made it even worse. So when you tell me like a country is not surviving, it's not because, oh, because they're bad people then, you have to come into the root cause. Every single country that you said, I can bring you the root cause of how America and the West has fucked this country be to become a fool. Go to Syria, go to Lebanon, go to there. Yeah. Bashar al-Assad, killing his own people, gasing his own people.

Tell me what that's America's fault. Who's she supported? Who was she supported by? That's the whole problem. Yeah, I mean, okay. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no not a, is not, he cannot really put, but Shah Hussain as a Islamic charismatic thing, you know, because he's fighting ISIS, which we're funding ISIS to fight against. Who's funding ISIS? You tell me? Qatar, who's by, you're funding the funded by the United States, all right? So yeah, you don't understand this. No, this is how complicated.

I do understand how complicated it is. People in the Middle East are either supported by Russia or supported by America and they're fighting each other. So at the end of the day, you have people who have come to power because they have been supporting by one of the superpowers and they're fighting against each other. You have the Hamidity and the Armenians then each one of them is supported by external powers. So it's not about like the Islamization of them. The economy is bad because at the end of the day these are warlords who are fighting each

other, but to reduce that. In order, why don't you just make some money while you completely ignore the power of the international power that are involved into that? Like for example, the country like Mali. Mali is like very, very restless and the reason Mali is restless that Paris is there and it's putting up like some sort of a puppet president so Paris can continue taking its share of gold and put it into its coffers. So there is, it's much more complicated than just selling Islamization or Rulass Islamization. All of these power of play, you just gave me a Taliban and I give you the reason why America did that Saddam Hussein Saddam Hussein right some of us and he was the baby of the of the United States administration and then you went and I need to win the Kuwait who gave him the money who gave him that kind of power All right, it has been going on forever

Then super power are using that the smaller countries and they are Controlling their own leaders in order to go fight each other because at the end of the day it works for them. There's no, I mean, full agreement with you that there's a mystery wrapped in a riddle wrapped in a quagmire what's going on in the Middle East and I'm a full agreement with you that there are proxy wars all over the Middle East. No doubt. But the tip of the spear that's funding all the chaos, the path has said that this is the year of chaos. The tip of the spear that's funding all the chaos, Pathas said that this is the year of chaos.

The tip of the spear with the chaos is Iran. And there's no, I mean, who's funding Iran? China, Russia, they have a relationship, Azerbaijan, they have some sort of relationship. How do you deal with Iran? Because Iran's greatest export. Let's moment. Well, we haven't done it yet.

No, no, let's moment. I don't think we should bomb it. I think we should. No, no, no, let's let's let's let's let's elect you for a government official I mean you know better than what's going on and you're no better than what they can That is that so you're the Nikki Haley can't that is the answer that's the answer Bomb Afghanistan bomb Iraq bomb Palestine bomb Iran unless you what happens I speak sarcasm better than the next guy I trust you. I know you're being sarcasm. 30 minutes. But what do you do about a regime that is funding

Houthis, Hamas, Hezbollah. They are the ones who are sowing discord. What do you do about Iraq? I remember like calling Powell and the security council. Like, let's bomb Iraq. And then he bombed Iraq. How is bombing Iraq done to this country? Who was a fucking disaster?

Oh, yeah, really. But it will not be a fucking disaster to bomb Iran, right? I'm agreeing with you. I know that you're speaking sarcasm, but people are wrong. But you see, like, oh, it's all about Iran. It's all, it starts like this. Of course it is all about Iran. Because 20.

Who's funding the hooties? Who's funding has both of us? Who's funding Hamas? Because 20 years of billions of dollars, they're giving the terrorist organizations. Because 20 years ago. And you just want to ignore that? 10 years ago, it was Iraq. And 20 years ago, it's the Afghanistan. And 10 years ago it was Iraq and 20 years ago

It's a Vanistent and they bond them. I got a question for both of you. I got a question for both of you I'm actually really curious and Listen to both of you guys. This is my question. Okay The part that both of you guys agree that we had a guy on couple the only guy You know one the guys have had on a couple times. His name is John Perkins He wrote a book called The Economic Hitman. I don't know if you've read the book, you know who he is. Okay.

And one of the things he talked about the model on what it was, they go to president, and that's what he did, by the way, this was his job. Okay. He goes to a country that has a natural resource or location, oil, it's close to something that they can have some kind of control. And they go to them and they say, here's what we're gonna be doing. We're gonna come here and we're gonna bring billions of dollars of infrastructure to your country.

However, here's what you're gonna give us. Papa, papa, papa, okay. And then the president who said no, he says, couple of them, they killed. Oh, shit. That was his job, okay. And he doesn't no, he says, couple of them, they killed. That was his job, okay? And he doesn't say he killed them, but he says, if you said, no, when I went back

and I had to report back to the people that I work for, that you're saying no to, guess what? Bad things are gonna happen to you and your family. And it happened. Then the next model was, we come, we bring infrastructure, then we make the country go bankrupt Then you give us everything then we control you Are we naive enough to believe what China is doing now exactly but but but pre China

And we Other have done that and Russia's done that other people and UK is a UK try to do that to Iran and then later on eventually UK US you know Germany France these guys got rid of the Shah because you know And UK is a UK try to do that to Iran. And then later on eventually, UK, US, Germany, France, these guys got rid of the Shah because, you know, cool and all. The people I've been involved with, economic hitman for a long time. Here's a question for you, Basum.

Here's a question for you, Adam. Okay, so we both agreed that that's going on. Okay, we both agreed that that's been going on for many decades. No one can even dispute it nowadays, but now we're in this shithole. And what I mean by shithole, shithole, is insanity everywhere.

Bassa, what do you do now? Is it more from the standpoint where a part of you was almost not optimistic? You're like, Pat, I don't even, I think this thing's going to go, nothing's going to happen. It's going to continue and all this other stuff, right? What do we do now? We were told during 2015, 2016, when it was a debate

between what Hillary Clinton and Trump, and what were we told? If Trump becomes the president, he war is going to happen. This is what's going to happen. So everybody, we're all like, oh shit, it's going to be pretty bad. This guy's going to have a,

do you really want this guy to have the finger on the button? No, no, no, no. Okay, he goes in, ISIS disappears, there's no war, it's gonna be pretty bad. This guy's gonna have a, do you really want this guy to have the finger on the button? No, no, no, no. Okay, he goes in, ISIS disappears, there's no war, it's quite low key, everything's good, boom, boom, boom, and then, no, I just, and then boom, Biden gets elected, he's gonna be peace, he's gonna bring everybody to get, he's gonna bring this, he's gonna,

then he comes in and then, you know, Afghanistan happens within months, 83 billion dollars of equipment being left, and he got Ukraine, Russia, and then you got this. And then there's a bunch of guys economists that are talking about, you know, this is China's year to try to invade Taiwan because Taiwan's got an election coming up. It's a shit show, basically, is what you're saying. But the point is like there's so many contradictions in politics as well? At a point like this, Basim, where mainstream media is not going to tell us the real story, because there may be not even getting the real story themselves on what's happening behind

closed doors. What do you do today? There is one of the most advanced military armed armies in the region, in the world, supported by the West, supported by America, have voting like, they diverting the vote all over, and they're killing people for all that time, and nobody is doing anything for you. Who are you talking about? I'm talking about Israel.

All right. So the killing has to stop. And I'm not talking about gas, I'm talking about what they do in the West Bank. Every single day in the West Bank, that all of these people have been killed in the West Bank. And there's no Hamas came out from West Bank to do the seventh of October, all right? Just a couple of days ago,

like a woman was walking with her children. Stop, pop, pop, snap. Walking the street, that is the regular days when people in the West Bank. You think the problem is Gaza? What you see in Gaza is an accelerated, exaggerated form of what's happening in the West Bank too. So you have a country that has occupied the land

and they are like making people living like animals. And if you deal people with animals, they will come up as animals, right? So that is the crux of all, we can talk about politics and about the economy. It's here to, can them come? What is happening is there is horrible injustice happening every single day.

They're taking people, strip them up, saying that they're Hamas. They're, you have like, you have like an 11 person being killed every hour. You have 247 person being killed every day. That is in five days, that is like, 400 people that were killed in the say October 7th. You have 30,000 people. And the thing is when you say, 20,000, 30. Numbers don't care, it don't mean anything anymore. If I told you, I mean people, the driving gas, I mean not flinch because their numbers have become so... It's true.

See, it's nobody. I don't, I don't understand. So we go into these circular motions, how can we stop that again? I was like, no, they're scaling happening every day. My wife's family have actually cheated death so far for a hundred days because they've been running from hand-unus to rava, back to hand Hanunas and they were told in the beginning that Hanunas and Rafa are the safe place because it's in the house and then they were telling them these are the safe path.

Take this safe path, these are the buses, they will run into the buses and Israel will bond the buses. After being guaranteed that this is the safe path, this is murder every day. So I don't know all of these circular words about like reverse to the sea, what's happening. That doesn't make any sense while people are being killed every single day. We have a tragedy, a genocide, a holocaust happening in Gaza

and everybody is just like playing their balls, it's like what do you think about the economy? What do you think about it? What do you think about your own? That's bullshit. They're killing right happening right now and we're just like watching it and trying to fill time with useless conversation. How do you fix a short term though?

Because short term. Make Israel stop. There is no, there's no, exactly. How do you do that? Exactly. As they, as they, as America has to tell Israel stop because basically Israel is a client state. It's taking all of its money in the states.

It has actually sucked America dry with all of the money that is taking away from him and yet it's taking all of its money in the states, it has actually sucked America dry with all of the money that is taking away from him and yet it's not doing any. So why do you think Biden administration is not telling them to stop? Because they are fucking cowards. Because it seems that every four years, every American president go and kiss the hand and bend the knees and go to APEC to make them sure that Israel is much more important in their foreign policy than America itself. And the only one who did not do it with Bernie Sanders, the only Jewish American candidate

who refuses to go to A-PAC, and you cannot call that anti-Semitic. And you have to be very, very careful about being anti-Semitic or anti-Jew, because if you call me anti-Semitic, I'm going to fuck you, man, I'm not. Like my idol is John Stewart,, Bernie Sanders, I voted for presidency. Is this whole thing about like using anti-Semitic and Islamophob and all that, you can't go and transform to shut down the conversation, it's bullshit. You have a murderous country who have lied to the international community who have actually neutered its own Ethiopian women

because they didn't want black people to reproduce, who kidnapped Yemeni Jewish people from their parents, who have countless atrocities, who even have zoning lows like Jim Crow. It's like, what are this? This is like a racist country that's supported by the United States and it's kind and you know it's fine. There's a lot of racist country horrible people but they have I've never seen a country killing 30,000 people within a hundred days. This is 10 times

the number of Ukrainians being killed in Russia in two years. It does not make it and about nuclear weapons. Yes, they have calculated it. Right now, they have calculated a number of weapons that have, by the TNT, they have room like three nuclear weapons in a very, very small part. So it's really about the killing. Stop the killing, and then we can talk. Yeah, but that's, that's, okay. So, so that's that, like, now let's not sub the killing.

Let's talk more about, no, not what I'm saying. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, works, and I'm, you know, I know you're a diehard president, Trump fan. I know you're a big fan of his. And, you know, you have pain forming all that stuff.

I've heard you get up there, you open up for him all the time, which is beautiful. Oh, I love it. Oh, Trump. So, let me ask you this. Let me, let me ask you this. Why do you think? You know, sometimes you, you sit there and you say,

man, I can't stand that person. That person is it, da da da da da da. And then, you know, shit, maybe am I wrong myself? Maybe that guy's not as bad as I think that guy's, fuck, there's no end to world. I can say anything good about him. No way, if I do God forbid if I do, right? Okay.

Do you think like every family, you know, has that one tough guy in the family? And when that person is alive, nobody does anything stupid. Do you know what I'm talking about? Every family has it. You have it. I have it. We all have it, right? It's an uncle. It's a grandfather. It's a father. He's a bully. He's not the bully. It's not the bully. It's the guy that doesn't allow the bully to bully. That guy. It's the guy that does that protector. Yeah, it's like the protector. It's kind of like you don't want to wake that guy up. Like, you know, that one scene from Christopher Walken and a movie says, you know, every once in a while, the line is sitting there and they come and pull him and they do this and they do that. Hyenas are by every well. Every once in a while the lion has to wake up and tell everybody because everybody knows

what the lion is capable of. Right? This is why people put on their house sign that says what? There is a vicious dog, you know, in the back of this house believes in the second amendment. Whether they have a gun or not, the person that's trying to rob that is going to say what? I don't want to rob a house that may have a gun in there, right?

So that's sign avoids conflict. Yes. Why do you think, Basim? I'm so curious, you know what kind of an answer you're gonna give to this. Why do you think during Trump there was no war, no conflict, and we were expecting to see World War III under him? Why do you think? I have no idea.

And I think because maybe Trump, as much as I don't like him, he was kind of business oriented. He said, oh, I'm not gonna, how much will that work cost me? No, I'm not gonna do that. So maybe that's the one thing. And that's kind of,

something to be good on his behalf, although I'm not a big fan, I have a problem with other policies, but yeah, I don't think, yeah, maybe this is the only thing that. But Basin, one of our- Let me stand. I wasn't asking questions. Because, okay, I, on the,

on the spending side, it's gonna cost us money. He said, yes, that's an interesting perspective. But okay, how about this one? How about the fact that, you know, he says, hey, you have a button, I have a bigger button. Hey, you do this. I know exactly where you are right now, and I can destroy you.

I would much rather not. How about the fact that he put the fear in people that wanted to bully and take advantage of other people so nobody did during his time? Maybe, but you also, I have to remember that COVID came in right in the middle of three years later. That was three years later. No, that was actually that one half years later. Yeah, but, but, you know, first two and a half, still, if the COVID came, you know, that's even a bigger opportunity. But I have no clear answer. I'm the only, the only thing is like,

oh, this is gonna cost us money. I don't want to spend money. But, but, but, but, but, you know what, the Euro smart guy, the reasonable guy, because for me, like if I were to sit there and say, what did Clinton do, I voted for Clinton. For the fricking last time we had a balanced budget, him and Newt Gingrich worked together, right? So, what did Reagan do? Reagan and Tip O'Neill would go have beer together

afterwards as two Irishmen that would fight throughout the day, but at six o'clock they're at the bar, and they're having a drink together, right? You don't have to like the enemy or somebody that may be policy-wise, you disagree with. You may say, I don't agree with them on pro-life pro-choice. I don't agree with them on, blah, blah, blah. I don't agree with them on this, but holy moly, the temperature was super low during Trump than we have today. Everybody that was talking about Biden's sweet man, he's a unifier, he's this, he's that.

We got like, it's almost a world where three categorically, we can't say it, but there's a world going on right now. Because he's supporting Israel. But so the Trump though. Yeah, but Israel didn't do that, I think, June Trump. And you know what Trump said about Netanyahu? And you know what Trump said about Netanyahu? Did you hear what Trump said about Netanyahu? Can you pull up a clip about what Trump said

about Netanyahu where Trump said, after what happened with Rassam Soleimani? Okay, you remember when he took out Rassam Soleimani who was supposed to be like the next leader, he was the number two guy in Iran. He criticized Netanyahu and said he almost didn't trust him because when Netanyahu said he was going to be in it with him, he didn't. So the part about Trump is he doesn't have a problem.

Critic- wait, you criticized Netanyahu. Your daughter's married to Kushner. What are you doing criticized? I know if that would be the same if it was like more of a massive like military operation that's happening because it wouldn't happen under. Because like when you kill someone, it kind of like repercussion kind of lie down very quickly. But this is like an ongoing for more than three months.

So I don't know if what how Trump would they react. Are you a sports guy? Yeah. What do you like? What's sports? Basketball. You know what they say, you know like Sometimes like these teams like you know Baltimore Ravens or some of the teams like even back in the days I don't know if you're Detroit pistons guy or if you're an old-school basketball guy or not

A lot of the guys won because their defense was sick Right, they just had a sick defense or you wouldn't come through the middle or did you just were freaking hovering all over you're so annoying Yeah, like the like the Jordan rules and piston. That's right, the Jordan rules pistons, right? So, you know, sometimes, you know, the best way to prevent a war is to have the fear you impose on everybody else where you, you know, defense where it's like, you know what?

We're just not even gonna get there. I don't even wanna do anything on the sky. Do you think at this point, like for example, case study, you've been here since 2014, right? November 11, 2014. So do you think 10 years, you've been here 10 years? I came here in November 20, 1990, okay. And you come here like, okay, a senior,

bush senior, all right, Clinton, huh? Interesting, okay, boom, junior, GW, interesting. Okay, boom, junior, GW. Interesting. Okay, Obama. Ha, there's a Trump. Ha, so now you got so many case studies and then in life, you sit there and you say, socially, these are the issues that matter to me the most.

If you and I were to start a country together, if you and I started a country together, we got 10 million people, okay? And we have an opportunity to attract another 10 million people to our country. What do you think the mothers and the fathers, number one priority is to come to a new country? Do you think it's social security?

No. Do you think it's Medicare? No. Do you think it, what do you think is number one? I would say the S word, right? Security and safety. Let's just say, okay. A woman wants to feel safe around a man.

A woman wants to feel secure around a man, right? If the number one word is the S word, especially the last three years, do you think a lot of people on the last three years are sitting there reprioritizing their top reason to elect the president somebody that's gonna lower the temperature to not have war? Do you think America's kind of there today after all the mess we've seen the last three years? I still have open America. I still I still like this country this month. I consider this as my own country

I find it like I found a second chance when I left the Middle East I think America is actually a great country. It has a lot of potential and it has given a lot of people including Mia a second chance when I left the Middle East. I think America is actually a Greek country. It has a lot of potential. And it has given a lot of people, including me, a second chance. So I believe in the idea of America. And the fact that I criticized America, I criticized it like, well, we do. Because it has that out of love in order. It's all really better, of course.

And what I'm worried about is like, over the years, America must have lost that kind of lure because it has been dragged more and more by my military industry complex. And the money has been prioritized in order to spend money on war, spend money on the military. And I think it's, I mean, 68% of your budget is taken to the military. That's not a lot of, that's huge. And many of these military contracts has been exaggerated.

The 60 minutes you show something that's used to cost $30, not cost $3,000. And there's no catch. There's no curve of these prices because they are the one who are making up that price. So yes, the security is great and all, but security in itself, because North Korea has security. It's not about the security. This is education. there is and there

and and the equality and people. Let me answer this in one second. Mr. Cuomo, we're on a podcast. Why are you calling us? We're in the middle of a podcast. It's named dropping. Yeah, I mean, Chris, I'm doing a live podcast with this legendary comedian, Basim Yosef, and we're having a very friendly conversation about, you know, how his, honestly, I'm a little confused because he's here campaigning on behalf of Trump and we're listening to him and I'm not convinced, I'm just not convinced.

Why does he not have a red hat on? No, he has the shirt on. He's not one that has a shirt on. And he has magas shoes on. He's got mag? No, he has the shirt on. He's not wearing a hat on. And he has a magazine shoes on. He's got a magazine shoes on and a magazine shirt on. No, but Chris, I'm gonna call you afterwards. We're on the live podcast. I'll call you right after this.

Do you think? Yeah. Mom, man, like, hold on, my phone. So, but go back to it. I'm not drinking that. Go back to it. I got John Stewart on the line. You're so funny.

Yeah, I'm here with Basin. We're the best friends, but. Hold on, Elon. Okay, yeah, but the reason why I'm asking this question is because, you know, when you're young, your dad's kicking your ass, challenging all this stuff. And you know what? Look at Joey's dad. They smoke weed together. I wish my dad was smoke weed with me.

Look at Bobby's dad. They have drinks together. I wish my dad was smoke weed with me. Look at Bobby's dad. They have drinks together. I wish my that. Look at those. I'm just like, I was like, and later I like, dude, I am so freaking glad that guy was tough on me. Thank you.

You know what I'm saying? Thank you for this. So for me, I'm sitting there, you know, thinking like a lot of people are sitting around saying, well look, what is the most important, you know, thinking like a lot of people are sitting around saying, well, look, what is the most important, you know, issue for us to sit there and resolve? I think the last three years, people are sitting there saying, look, man, we already went through COVID. That was nasty.

It divided America. I think COVID, at least 9-11, we went like this. I think COVID, we went like this. I think maybe you agree with that. We went way like this. Your team Vax, your team Vax, your this, I'm team, you do, no way, hope, you team, don't show them. Don't show them.

Mask shut them, it was all like so divided, right? I think Americans are tired. They're tired of the fights with the family and the relatives and we have to hate each other and all this other stuff. We can disagree on four different policies. But guess what, man? I think America is the greatest country in the world. Still, I think it's the greatest country in the world.

Does it have a history of some of the stuff that have done with economic hitmen? Yeah, it's documented. Did Eisenhower tell us be careful with this military industrial complex? Of course, do you know how many military contractors we had? Not contractors where they sold products and supplies military, like general dynamics and Boeing and all these companies? Do you know how many of these we had 40 years ago? 50 plus companies.

Do you know how many of these today? Five. The five, but the other 45. Wow. So there used to be so much competition. Now it's come like this. It's become in almost a form of a nationalization because politicians are getting so much check from them the lobbying amount of money they're spending. So they're like, hey man, we'll start a war. Of course, yeah, I wish it. Kill. And bomb Iran. Nikiha Ali. She sat on the board of Boeing,

and no wonder you want another war, because these people want another war, because they're gonna get another contract. That promise was made by Eisenhower as a Republican president that said, be careful with this, where these guys gonna want to go to war. All I'm saying is, I think what this election has done, this last three years, I think,

whether you're left left right center, I think the most popular thought on every woman, man, father, husband, you know, mother, wife is, guys, I just want to be safe. I just want us to be safe. And I think that's at the top of the mind of a lot of people. And I am, like I'm so curious as a businessman who likes case studies to see how America's gonna react to Afghanistan, Ukraine, Russia, Israel, Palestine, potentially China, Taiwan. I am so curious in how they're gonna react to the election this year.

So curious. It's gonna be wild. Because I think that's at the top of their mind Because I think that's at the top of their mind. I think that's at the top of their mind. Bassa, what do you think? Well, I want to get it back a little bit because since we were talking about Palestine and Israel, I think the most interesting when you talk about this

is you either called a terrorist or anti-Semitic and whatever, right? And people, I wish see the people who are the very pro-Israel, who can really support the Israel in 7th of October. Many of them are actually antisemitic, especially right-wing politicians, medgates, and M.T.J. and all of those people, those people, they love Israel, but They hate the Jews.

They are anti-Semite. It is very obvious. And this is why you see this that dichotomy, but how the Jewish voices for peace. These are Jewish people in New York. They come in and they take over the central station and they're all Jewish and they say not in my name. The whole idea is conflating Israel

and with Judaism is wrong. And I think the most dangerous thing that can happen to the Jewish people of the world is to have Israel as their representative, because a lot of it is Jewish people don't like them to be their representatives. As many as many Muslims don't like some of those Islamic regimes representing them. This whole idea was making its all or none now. Israel have actually done a lot of criminal activities that a lot of Jews do not agree upon. And a lot of the people who go out in New York, in Brooklyn, in Los Angeles, these are Jewish people shouting not in my name.

Many of those people are actually Holocaust survivors, they are Gabur, who is like a very famous Holocaust survivor himself, and he says, Israel is a Zionist, terrorist apartheid country. So if you think like I'm saying this because of my Muslim or Arab background, listen to the other Jews. They're saying that Israel is the criminal here and it's been supported time and time and time again by the EU, by the American administration. I'm not asking for anything that is out of the box. I'm asking them to stop the killing. Because let's say, 7th of October, worst day ever. Okay, how many people are you going to continue to kill in order to get your revenge?

Because it seems that you will not be able to rarely get havas. As a matter of fact, you can kill 100,000 people today. What you have created is 100,000 hamaskilers. Now, this has never... Israel tried it before 2004 and it failed 2006 and failed 2009 and failed 2012, 2014 and every time Israel came in and they killed many people as possible and they came back. The solution for this is not more killing, more war, I know people like war solves everything you will not be able to solve everything with war. The whole idea about this is to just this.

If this land to be given back, give back the land, if there is agreement to be done, do the agreement and sit together because believe me, whatever cost you think is too high giving up a land, it will not come close to the cost of human life that we are doing every life, whether on the Jewish side or the Muslim side or the Israel side or the Arab side. So how did you get rid of a mass? Get rid of the reasons that create Hamas, which is what? The horrible living conditions, the blockade, putting people in prison, not allowing people to get their own destiny. If you do that in any more, you listen, Israel could have been found in Uganda, which by the

way the British government gave the Jews 8,000 acres and then they said no, to 1903. If Israel want to go to Uganda, you can have a UNO-Ganda Hamas. If you make people and put them in the lands of other people, there are already 2 million people that are already there and then you just push them around, you will have resistance. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Israel took, it took Israel's 1948, the PLO was created in 1964. These are all as a result of what Israel has been doing. Why do you mention Uganda? Because the British proposed that the Jews should move to Africa and Uganda, pull up the

Uganda on the map just so we're clear. What does that have to do with anything? What I'm saying is before the Israeli were the Jews were transported to Palestine. Right after that whole World War II Holocaust genocide thing. No, no, no, before, before, before, before, during that time. No, no, no, before, before, I'm talking about 1882. When the Zionists moved and started. Exactly, 1882. When the Zionists moved and started. Exactly, 1882. At that time there were only

3% of Jews living in Palestine. And they were like different. They were like the said Argentina. They said Chile, Madagascar, South Africa, and Uganda. In 19103, the British government offered The British government offered the Jewish people about 80,000 acres in Uganda. And they said no. And the reason that they said no, so there's what you know, there was like a big call, this very interesting. There was a big conflict between the rabbis and the secular Jewish movement. So the rabbis said that we cannot, the rabbis were the one who actually the object is that we cannot go to Palestine. It's like what do you know what do I mean? It's the promised land. It's like yes, it's the promised land when the

real Jesus comes. So the secular said, well maybe we should go to Palestine and that will invite real Jesus to come. It was like a whole, by the way this is all in Tudor, Herzl, Herzl memoirs. You can read about that, this is all in Tudor Herzl memoirs. You can read about that. And even 1903, Tudor Herzl and page 96 in the pamphlet for the Jewish state, he said, maybe the Jewish people should just get what they can. So what I'm saying is these were discussions in the end of the 19th century and the 20th century. And then there's a look up the movement that wanted to put the Palestinian, sorry, the Jewish people in Israel, actually one, and it happened very, very, very, very slowly by

1914. There were about 7% of Jewish people in Palestine. Now in the Bill for declaration happened. When the Bill for Declaration happened, the only one who rejected the Bill for Declaration of like putting Jews in Palestine was a Jewish British businessman and department as select those people are British people and we should not put them into another place. I'm not giving you I'm just giving you the historical part. You're giving us the history, I appreciate it.

Yeah, yeah. I doubt the Jews were like, yo, Uganda, let's do it. No, they want it Israel. But what do you do at this time? No, no, no, they did it. I'm sorry, I will have to disagree with you, sir, because you had to understand many of those Jews. They came from pogroms, from Ukraine Ukraine and from Russia. And then when they

went to London, they were really treated bad and they were called the problem. The problem. We need the solution. We need the solution. This is why when Hitler came to power, he said, we need the fine and solution. Of course. So you understand all of these problems happened between the Jews coming from Eastern Europe when they went to England and Western Europe. So, maybe the British people didn't like them and they want to push them off. So, we, all by the way, I mean, we can joke about that, but seriously, the whole thing about Madagascar, South Africa, Chile, and Argentina, and Uganda, these were real discussions

with real budget. I'm very familiar with the Zionist movement. And then at a certain time, so 1914, 7%, and then the Bill for Declaration. And then the first World War, nothing happened. Second World War with the Nazis were like kicking and killing everybody. And then they started to go in mass in Palestine.

But are you sensing a common theme here? They go to a country, they have success, let's kill them. They go to a country, let's, they have success, let's kill them. They started in Egypt, they went to Spain, they went to Morocco, they went to Europe, they went to the Pogh, they went to Russia, can I speak? Can I speak? This is not accurate. Of course, this is accurate.

Sir, this is not accurate. What's not accurate of what I just said? The whole reason that I say that is that they've been running around the entire world. It's called the Jewish diaspora. I'm speaking. I'll let you speak. You can speak for a half hour. I'm asking you a two minute question.

There's a Jewish diaspora. They're running all over the world. It culminates in the Bolshevik Revolution. Zionism, it starts, theater, or hurts all. It ends in the final solution in Germany. The Jewish people said, listen, we just need a state. You look at the map of the Middle East. It says as big as this room, we have a little tiny microphone. And we're fighting over the size of this microphone

when you have the entire room right here. So tell me, what should Israel do now? Does Israel have a right to exist and defend itself? So can I answer? I don't. So first of all, certain things that you said in that monologue was a little bit inaccurate. Yes, there were treated badly in Europe, they were treated badly everywhere, and they would not treated badly

in Spain because that was under the Arab rules. Of course, they were, it was called the Spanish Inquisition. Yes, that's right. The Spanish equiditions was done by the Christians against Muslims and Jews together. Okay. Muslims and Jews were sitting. But it happened is what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, before that Prospanish acquisition, Jews lived in the courts as minister and as poets, as scientists under the Arab rule in Antelusia. When the Spanish acquisition came in,

they killed both Jews and both Muslims. So the crusades, we all know how that story goes between Christians and Muslims for decades and centuries. And you understand that the first crusade did not kill a single Muslim? Okay, but the third and the fourth and the fifth one did. What happened with the first crusade? In light of me. What happened? The first crusade came out from England and they killed 2000 Jews in Europe, they didn't even make it to the Jerusalem. This is how bad the Jews were treated by the Christian Europeans. And as a matter of fact, the Jews did not find refuge

unless they found it in the Arab countries. I'm not saying that they were perfect, but if you compared what the Jews were enduring in Ukraine and Russia and in Western Europe and how they lived in Baghdad and Egypt and Morocco, they were much better. But this validates the whole point of why the Jews need Israel because every country they go to,

they're gonna be run out of town or killed at the very least they have their own country. So they could say, at least we have safety here. Every country, every story that you just mentioned about stuff is them being killed by somebody, whether it's the Christians, whether it's the Brits, whether it's the Ukrainians, one of the Brits, whether it's the Ukrainians, or the the Russians. The whole point of Israel is like, we can no longer just rely on other people's

niceties and empathy to not be murdered. So now we need a state of our own. You understand that? I understand. Let me continue. So all through these years, they were living peacefully, relatively under the Arab rule, and then what happened in the programs in Russia and Ukraine, pushed them to England, and then England said, we cannot take them anymore, pushed them more to the Arabs. At the time, Jewish people in the Arab world, especially Egypt, were living, I mean, the first people who actually did the cinema and the theater were Jewish Egyptian people who lived their all their lives. Jews, Christians, and Muslims were living right now,

the department store like our version of Macy's and Target, they all have Jewish names because they have part of the fabric of the Egyptian society for decades way before the Jews from Europe came. And when the Jews from the Europe came, there's two ways to come. You can come easily or you can come by force. They start to come with all of these shapes and then you have the Hagena and you have all of the

Zionist gangs who started to come into Palestine and they started to, they were like 1.5 million Palestinians that you cannot erase. So the fact that they... This is the Arab world. You can't go anywhere. No, because this is their country. So they went in, they replaced them, and then we had the 1948 and the rest of the history. Now having said that do I want Israel to be erased and I want people to go back to Europe? I will never use that kind of Argument unless that you tell me well, why don't the Palestinians go to Arab countries? If you don never use that kind of argument unless that you tell me, well, why don't the Palestinian go to Arab countries? If you don't use that, I'm not going to use that. I believe that Israel is a matter of fact.

And I think it's too late to come and erase or get people out, whatever, what we have to do, either. A one-state solution that everybody, Palestinian and Israeli have exactly the same equal right and all of them have the same passport and they live in peace. And the other reason is a two-state solution. Obviously so far, Netanyahu and other Israeli officials have said many, many, many, many times they will never be a Palestinian state, not in the West Bank, nothing else ever.

And these are official statements by them. So they've already said that. You sometimes people accuse ours, but we don't want the state to Israel. They say we don't want a state for Palestine. So you have this as long as you think that this is your land only, and those Palestinians are in this vegetable and they can go other places, you'll never have peace.

They've had the Oslo records. They've had the Abur-A-Habir records. At what point does Israel say, I can't negotiate with these people? Hamas is charting a founding charter, says we call for the destruction of Israel. In order to make peace, sort of make a deal, you need to have someone on the other side that is willing to at least come to the table. The closest that come was Yasser Erifffat, the PLO, under Clinton, 1998. He came back, he gave him 98% of what he wanted.

He came back, they said no. What Israel or, listen, Israel is just like America. It's a democracy. In a democracy of a free exchange of ideas, the Marjorie Taylor greens that you mentioned or wildly different from the AOCs But policy is different from rhetoric the policy of The P.L.O of Hamas of Fata is essentially destroy Israel. There's no to solution No, no the rhetoric You have a message different from how fat fat has different authority because there's nothing in the shorter of high of fat or the or the

Point that I'm getting at is all these political factions No one wants come to the come to the table do a deal and and here's what's happening? But because they're getting worse and worse as they give them 98% of what they want Have you seen they had a good hand a few ducks decades ago. Sir, I've seen. Now they have no hand. Have you have no leverage now? See, that's the problem.

Sir, have you seen the video in it, Nihia, who's bragging about spoiling the Oslo accord on his own? I've seen the video. Yeah. He said, like, like, I'm going to destroy it. We're going to hit them. Nobody's going to do that anyway. This is the guy.

And by the way, just a little bit with the Oslo accord, you know, it was signed by yes or no from one side one side and from Isaac Rabin from the other. What happened to Isaac Rabin? He got assassinated by a Jew. By a Jew. Okay. And by a far right radical Jew. Because he was a moderate. Who was a part of what part? That's true. What kind of organization was he part of? He's on the far right party where we're going to have to know who he is. It is the same organization where Ben Gaffir, the head of the National Security now, is a minister of London, it's in the outlaw. Yeah, news flash. Every country that democracy has a left wing and a right wing.

I don't think every country has at least two terrorist people as ministers, because Ben Gaffir was arrested on the account of killing his high-crabbing. As a matter of fact, there's a very famous video for him where you get the emblem of his car two months before Isaac Rabin's like, we've got your car next, we've got you two months later Isaac Rabin. This is the kind of government that you are defending. It's a terrorist government that kill its own people, even Bidzalim who is the minister of finance. He was arrested because he was going there by

600 liters of gasoline to blow up an Israeli highway. This is the kind of criminals who kill people gas everywhere and I find it very difficult to find somebody actually like two defense actions. So are you saying that Israel is the only country in the Middle East that has a thug-like regime? everywhere and I find it very difficult to find somebody actually like to defend the actions. Are you saying that Israel is the only country in the Middle East that has a thug-like regime? Oh, no, not at all. But okay, so this is pretty common for that neighborhood. But you know what's the difference?

I don't see any other country in the regime saying, am I a democratic secular country? I have Western values. Well, according to the world index, world economic index, Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. This is in our opinion. Exactly. Look at that. Exactly. With half-terri's people in the government, which is, I find it very...

And here's the problem that I'm having with you. Is that I actually... No, but with me? With your argument. With me? Well, you've already called your racist. I'm a very nice person. I think you are a nice person.

I'm very nice. I think you're a nice, nice boy. I never called you racist as I called you're... Multiple times. Multiple times, but it's all good. It's said undertones. He didn't call my wife. I said that racist undertones. Thank you're nice. I never called you racist as I called you are. Multiple times, but it's all good. He said undertone. He didn't call my wife. I said that racist undertone.

Thank you so much. It's a racist undertone. Thank you. Basim, if you look at the chat, you're probably the nicest to me today. So we're cool. So the problem that I have with you is that either you're anti-Israel or you're just intellectually lazy.

Hear me out. Every problem. It's a very nice insulin. Yeah, thank you very much. Every, every, every, every, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, I am, I am, I am, because,

because I believe in having discussion and being forthright rather than when you leave, I'll be like, fuck that guy. I actually think you're a smart guy, actually think you know your stuff. You're just so fixated that Israel's the problem. The problem in them, East, like I said, follow the money.

The countries that are succeeding, the Qataris, even the Saudis these days, they're coming into the modern world. They're leaving the six century mentality behind and say, let's get into the 21st century, where they need to succeed, whether it's Gaza, or whether it's Lebanon, or whether it's Lebanon, or whether it's Syria, and whether Afghanistan, they need to focus on GDP, not GDT.

Gross domestic product, not gross domestic terrorism. And the problem is they're obsessed. Put the guns down. Put the Quran down. Actually start living by the words that the Quran says, not some false equivalent of what they think is actually going on there. You talk about the genocide in Israel or in Gaza as if it's just a matter of fact. Well, let me let me show some stats for you because after you see these stats

Israel's the worst genociders ever the numbers the According to the world data if you trust data Between 1990 and 2022 the Palestinian population overall went from 2 million to 5 million, okay? Pretty bad at genocide if that's what's happening right there in Gaza it went from 645,000 to 2.1 million It's 3x that ain't genocide to me now to 20 to 20,000 people, 30,000 people needlessly killed during this bullshit war that was started by Amaz. Is that horrible?

1 million percent. And any Jew or any Israeli? Give me that number again. 600,000 to what? 645,000 to 2.1 million. That's the God's. That's the God's. This is in 1990 to 2022.

Do you know why they increased? Because they're having babies like crazy. No, you see, this is how in how, how like when you watch that, while being uninformed makes me look, let me see, you look very stupid. Tell me why, tell me how the population has gone from 2 million to 5 million.

Yeah, because most of the 1.5 extra million didn't come from Gaza, they were pushed away from other parts of Israel. So, most of these people, they have increased because of refugees being kicked out. If you're talking about the settlers, those are tens of thousands of people. I'm talking about those aren't millions of people. Dude, because of restricting being kicked out. If you're talking about the settlers, those are tens of thousands.

I'm talking about those aren't millions of people. Dude, dude, this is my wife's family. It's not from Gaza and yet they found themselves in Gaza because they were sitting in other cities and villages outside Gaza. This is the systemic pushing of people from other parts of Israel pushing them to go. That's not millions of people.

This is why I said that you're intellectually dishonest. No, intellectually lazy. No, that's not the cause of millions of people. I'm so I'm familiar with the Settler. No, no, this is the disengagement of two thousand. It's not these are people. Millions of people. What? Okay. The people who belong to Gaza are 700,000 people. Right now Gaza is 2.2 million. That is not birth rate, my friend. These are people pushed from... And by the way, that's not the first time. 1948, at the night of the declaration of the state of Israel, 1.5 million, 1.5 million Palestinians were moved overnight. So it's not the first thing.

So before you tell it, give me numbers to... You want to... At your mark, know what are behind the numbers because these are not people that gave me and babies. These are people being pushed from other places in order to be part of the open air prison that it is. Okay, so that's, so it's not, if you want to fact check me, let me fact check you.

Anytime that there's numbers increasing, Vasev, going from 650, 450, whatever you want to call it, to 2 million, however it happens, that's the exact opposite of a genocide. So the whole genocide, the whole open air presence, art, my three points, talking points of BS. No, and this is why I said you were intellectually lazy.

No, no, no, you just hated. Basically, this whole thing about you hate Israel and hate Islam, this is a very lazy way to talk to people. It's kind of like you're think. What did I tell you that is so lazy? What did I tell you that you're fucking racist? Because I'm, you've already said that multiple times. No, I didn't say I said that multiple times.

I said you're undertones racist, nothing's normal. So not me, but what's going on inside of me? And someone, and someone, like the way that you analyze numbers is very lazy because again, when I actually use stats and data from, let me hear most credible sources, that's the reason we're all involved.

These are numbers that were outtacked. You said no stats. If you give a fucking penny for all time. California has increased triple, or the size of people in Texas increased because of birth rate. No, they increased because people from California started moving voluntarily. You have pushed 1.5 million people outside of Gaza

inside of Gaza in the matter of 12 years And that's why the number has inflated. It's not because they were giving birth rate So they were put the genocide they were evacuated where is this alleged genocide that's happening right now under your eyes So as of as of three months ago, there was no genocide and so it's just a new well We didn't actually use the word genocide before three months ago, okay, but we didn't use it for the river for the city We didn't use it. We didn't use it. We didn't use it. For decades. Well, also Israel have a lot of maps that is putting in the greater Israel

from the Nile and the Euphrates. That's that genocide from five countries there. And this is not by people in the street or people of YouTube. These are ministers. These are officials in the official government of Netanyahu. If you have someone, an Arab president,

like the Egyptian president or the Jordanian king tell you from the river in the sea, it's like, oh, it's the Arab authorities. You are basically complying people on Facebook and the official viewpoint of the Israeli government. You're basically comparing apples to oranges. It doesn't make any sense. You're basically comparing activists

with people with power, with money, and with weapons. So I don't know how come you're comparing. So what's your solution? Because you've got all these answers and we have no solutions. What's your solution? Just this. Stop killing people and give them back their land. That's it. Okay. And giving them back the land that is going to be a much more complicated thing. Who's going to lead your negotiations? Mahmoud Abbas 88 years old? I have no idea, man. I have no idea. That's a point. You don't have an idea.

Well, when I say I have no idea, I'm being humble because there's a many people who can do it, but like I'm not a politician, I'm a comedian. I come here to tell some of my opinions, but the thing is you wanna put me, and then you use that and you give me, I'm sorry to say butchered political information and number that doesn't seem.

That's a really butchered political. But it's interesting how you have all the solutions for Israel, but you have no solutions for Gaza or Hamas. Very interesting. Very interesting how you can critique everything that's going on in Israel. Yes, they do have some things they need to rectify.

Just like the United States, just like any democracy. You've got all the answers there, boss. But when I said, what do they do over here in Gaza? What do they do? I have no idea. I'm just a comedian. Don't listen to me. So which one is it? You know your shit or you're actually so what was your question? What's the solution?

So what's the solution? For Gaza for Gaza, how about you stop the killing and then we can call it. So let's say we do that. Okay Here's what I believe when you I think we need to demilitarize Gaza we need to de-radicalize because they're the leading How are you gonna do rigada? How are you doing? Well, maybe let's stop. So how about the... Let's stop summer school.

So the teacher brought G-Hod. And they start playing football and talk. Okay, and how about the religious schools in Israel that actually tell people that we should kill all Arabs and these... Well, you know all those Jews that are running around bombing everywhere around the world? No, it doesn't fucking exist. Oh, really? It's only in Islam.

But all about the Jews killing the Palestinians inside. I'm talking about around the world. Oh, I said there was a bad people. I would bad people think of us out. That's not what I'm saying. No, no, we're very hot. What are we saying? Are they interreligion?

We are a terrorist religion. Take it out. You said it. You're worth. You said it. You're worth. Yeah. You're worth.

I mean, like, this is like you have a really interesting outlook for people who look like me. You look at me and a Muslim and you have all of these assumptions about me being a terrorist. Well, it's not a terrorist. You said the word pacifist. I didn't say the word. You know what's the difference with you? You said the word.

They go on like some rogue groups and they kill and they do shity stuff. But you have like a whole country with a whole military arsenal who is committing terrorism every single day back to the West. There it is. There's a real talk. I'm going to talk it. That's my opinion. that's my opinion. That's my opinion. Totally cool.

That's my opinion. Totally cool. It's all good, but you're trying to tell me that Islam doesn't have a terrorist problem. Islam, Muslims have a terrorist problem. Correct. It's like when you say Islam has a Muslim problem, when you say Judaism has a Muslim problem. All right.

A lot of Muslims are assholes and they're doing horrible stuff. And I, I do not feel the need to defend those people because those people don't represent me The thing is if Jews were running around all over the world blowing themselves up as suicide bombers as he drew I'd be like guys what the fuck are we doing here? What are we doing here? Okay, this is accomplishing nothing, so let's but here's the risk But here's the reality Jews aren't doing that and Christians aren't doing that. Jews are not let me ask you a question

They're not doing that in Gaza. They're not doing that. Jews are not. Let me ask you a question. They're not doing that in Gaza. They're not doing that in the US. Everything you talk about is Gaza. I'm talking about the world. Yeah, because that's what happened in the US now. So obsessed with this one top M. I'm trying to understand the world.

Okay, my family lives there. But my family's in Israel. Really? So only your family counts, my family doesn't count. No, no, okay, but like, did your family are living in an open air prison and being killed every day? They open air prison, the genocide. I'll get them.

You see how you make it for the people. You see how open air prison. It's being killed every day. They open air prison, the genocide. Get them, you see how you make them do talking. You see how open air prison, all you talking for. Israel left, it's got to look 2000. It's in leave, it left and they put another blockade. They call the disengaged, why don't they have a blockade? Maybe because they're shooting missiles hundreds of times a day. Yeah, I'd pretty much put a country in a blockade if they were shooting missiles. Because every single day,

they come from the water, it's like, okay, go live. How do you do that? Let's move on from Israel, because I know you're hyper obsessed with it. Why? I'm not hyper obsessed. You keep asking me about Israel. No, I ask you about the world.

And I'm asking you about Christianity and Muslims and Judaism. You want to focus on Israel. Why can Muslims move to any Christian country they want? But Christians and Jews can move to zero Muslim countries. Why is that? What about Dubai? What about Dubai? What about Syria?

What about all of these countries? What are you talking about? You mean the country? You just mentioned Qatar and Dubai and all of this, like, a little bit expensive. So this is my point. I'm glad you're catching up. Yeah.

That I'm not racist. I'm pointing out what they are Christian countries who like, like, shit, I wouldn't lose views that because of the economy. I'm pointing out that in certain Muslim countries, they're getting it right. Or at least attempting to. Good for them.

Okay. Yes, good for them. Good for Qatar. Good for UAE. Good for Saudi and what MBS is doing. Good for them. There are examples of what could be done. Gaza, if they took the billions of government

of international aid could be Dubai, but they decided to make a terrorist state. So the billions of government of international aid, could be Dubai. But they decided to make a terrorist state. So the question that I'm asking is, are you saying that there's so many money coming in and just like Hamas used it in order to make weapons? There's people of Hamas who are literal billionaires living in Qatar, flying around on private jets. How do you explain that? They're horrible people and I don't condone them.

All right. I'm talking about the millions of people who have a whole horrible people, Hamas. Let's not talk about that. We'll move on. But Israel, let's make it be a dissertation for you. You're trying to give yourself just like shouting over me to make up. Because every time I'm talking, you are being... You talking around all of the stuff that's happening with Muslim people that is bad.

And then based what you're doing is you are undertoning, you are trying to find an excuse to keep that killing and guys to continue. Because Muslims are bad, Muslims are terrorists, Muslims are poor. So let's just like kill those people in Gaza. You are so intellectually lazy, it's comical. Because I'm not even talking about Gaza.

You keep insulting me. You keep insulting me. Because I'm trying because she is like, you are a mother keep insulting me because I'm trying to share like you are a you are a mother fucking racist You know like you how would you what if I said that racist? I'm saying that there's that you say about tris is the way that you speak about Muslims that we are terrorists and we are horrible people Basically you're telling people that we deserve to die Do die and is that has everything to do in order to kill those people? That's so anyways if I said zero of those were, if you are putting out those words in my mouth,

if I said zero those words in who's a doctor, get killed tomorrow, I'm gonna send you a postcard. So if my actual cousin gets killed in Israel, they will not, they will not, because you know what, they are safe, because he is not living in an open air space. Oh, why are they safe? Maybe because they have the Israeli defense force,

they iron dome that stops. Good for you. All the men still have that. Yeah, but they don't have that. Maybe you should have built that instead of hollow. With what? With all the billions of foreign aid it would give them. What billion, what billion, foreign aid are you could,

these how much money does Iran give? How much money does Qatar, how much does international community actually trickle through Israel? You understand that Israel is like, you're, your argument holds no weight. You all you're doing is defending the ones. You're not arguing. I'm the last one to defend Hamas, by the way.

And I've actually said that terrorist group, and I don't be an unbeknownst big fan of Hamas, but I'm just giving you some facts. Every single money that goes into Gaza, goes through Israel. As a matter of fact, Biden has a big problem with Netanyahu because he's withholding the tax money that paid by the Palestinian people to the Palestinian Authority, and Netanyahu is holding it back. Have you heard about that? Have you read about that?

Just two days ago, if you're reading your stuff, but you don't, but the thing is Mithinio is holding back the tax money from the Palestinian in West Bank and he's not giving it back. That's so funny, man. You're so funny. No, you're saying for all, you're saying you're saying you're in there.

You're in there. That's going to Hamas is coming through Israel, filtered through Israel. All filtered through Israel. All the money from Iran, filtered through Israel. Sure, all filtered through Israel. Yeah, all the money from Iran, going right through Israel. Sure, that's how we, all the money from Qatar.

By 19, 2019, the legal party, telling them that he is actually overlooking that amount of money coming from Qatar and he is doing that in order to split the Palestinian Authority. Listen to me. I'm familiar with it. How about you, how about you, how about you, listen, educate yourself with it. I'm not disagreeing with that. How about you?

How about you? Listen, educate yourself about that. I'm not disagreeing that Netanyahu has done some fucked up things. Oh, here it is. Okay. Here it is. Oh my God. Here it is.

Biden is in Frustre and called, told BB to solve Palestinian tax revolutions. Yeah, because Israelis who was holding the taxes, you understand every single money transaction. That's your argument right there. No, that's what part holding the taxes. You understand every single money transaction. That's your argument right there? Every no, that's what part of the argument. Every single money transaction, whether it's taxes, whether it's AIDS, it has to go through the Israeli government. So all the money that Iran is funding Hamas, you're saying that goes through Israel?

Does that what you're saying? Through Qatar, through Israel. Okay, that's so false, it's so flagrantly false. I want you to educate yourself more. Okay, I will. I'll go read up on this. But if you mean to tell me that Israel is intercepting the money that Iran is sending to Hamas

and says, yeah, we'll send it to you guys. Believe me, they're not doing it. By the way, it's 11.15. It's 11.15, we're gonna wrap up. Here's what I will say. I'm gonna be very honest with both of you guys. I mean, I've been listening to both of you guys and I love this.

I love this. Let me tell you why. The average American right now is sitting there. There's a group that agrees with you. There's a group that agrees with you. Regardless of what it is, a lot was set, and it was actually a pretty educated discussion for me. I'm normally not this quiet.

I love the fact that I heard this conversation. I loved it. I enjoyed it. I appreciate you for having, it was very obvious. This is what happens about some in the future when you're doing podcasts. Follow the same rule. The eight hours of sleep you got last night was very helpful. It was obviously felt. I was hang out over. I'm there is pain in my back as I'm speaking out of pain. I've got a guy waiting for you right now just saying. Can I say one thing to boss of yeah, I don't care how much we argue and that's fine. I would have a beer with you. I would party with you.

I'll go see your comedy show. Whatever this guy needs. I'll give you a hand. I'll give you a handy under the table of a make you feel better. It's all good. I love this conversation. Listen, listen, this is the only way that situations can be solved. It can be uncomfortable. It can be argumentative. But I'd rather sit down at the table with people I disagree with, then completely ignore them. At the end of the day, at the end of the day, the heated discussions, all of this at the end of the day is words. Words don't hurt anybody. And I think if it hurts you, it means that you need to check your ego.

One thing I learned is that put your ego aside. So if you felt that I am attacking you, attacking you, it's not, it's like I'm always attacking your argument. Brother, I'll give you a hug on air, off air, I'm good. It's never about you because there is absolutely no point of like losing each other and losing each other. We have come from obviously different background, but I would rather have this heated discussion and then stand up. And because at the end of the day, we are all Americans who are sitting here. And hopefully we're doing that in order to learn something that will not happen. We totally agree. We're on the same page.

We are on 100% of the things. Appreciate you for being good for appreciating. We're coming out. Gang, take care. Have a great weekend. If you're in Florida, if you're in South Florida tonight, you're performing in tomorrow at... Yeah, with that back. I have two shows in Arabic tonight and three shows in English Saturday and Sunday. And what's the location? Miami Improv. Miami Improv. Go stop by and tell them

you heard them on P.V.D. P.I. Maybe I'll be there, you never know. Come to the English show, you'll enjoy it. Take everybody. Bye-bye-bye. I'm on PVD part. Maybe I'll be there, you never know. Come to the English show, you'll enjoy it. Take care everybody, bye bye bye.