PBD Podcast - Hegseth's Signal War Plans Leak EXPLODES Into Global Scandal | PBD Podcast | Ep. 566

Episode Date: March 25, 2025

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick cover Pete Hegseth and the Signal war plans scandal, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders launching "The Fighting Oligarc...hy Tour," and Disney's Snow White bombing at the box office.--------📕 CELEBRATE NATIONAL READING MONTH: https://bit.ly/4iYqL3N👕 GET THE LATEST VT MERCH: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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Starting point is 00:01:29 Know this life may have fallen me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. That tape. My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here. You are a 101? My son's right there.
Starting point is 00:01:41 I think I've always said this before. I'm the one. Yeah, it is a pretty wild thing. Anyways, we're live, gang, a lot to cover, a lot. Some things was revealed apparently on signal, communication, people on the left are losing it, but at the same time UAE comes out and says we're going to put $1.4 trillion investment into the US. You got, who is it, Hyundai, $21 billion. You got Rolls Royce saying they're going to start developing their cars and stuff here
Starting point is 00:02:12 in the U.S. with 6,000 jobs being created. Very interesting things. And by the way, one of the charts I want to show you guys is a number of what happened the moment China joined the World Trade Organization. I'm going to show you numbers and what it looks like. You'll be shell-shocked. Absolutely shell-shocked. We'll cover that.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Adam was kind enough this weekend to go watch Snow White so he can give us an update on how she's doing. Apparently according to the actress, what's her name? Ziegler? Rachel Zegler? Zegler? Rachel? Rachel Zegler. There's a line outside of the theaters around the nation just to see her according to her
Starting point is 00:02:52 because she's such an incredible actress and knows how to really activate the feelings we had as kids and watching this or our daughters or you know, take our family to watch the movie but unfortunately that's not what the market said. It's heartbreaking to see her go through this and I don't think a lot of people are surprised our daughters or take our family to watch the movie, but unfortunately that's not what the market said. It's heartbreaking to see her go through this, and I don't think a lot of people are surprised by it. Trump demands a full-throated apology from main governor on transport's flap to settle funding dispute, even as universities back down.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Trump's got a lot of thoughts on that. Trump revokes security clearance for Joe Biden and entire family Kamala Harris, Hillary Clinton and many others. US gold card schema hit. Trump's top official says they've sold 1,000 in a day. One thousand in a day. That's a big number. He said this I think on a podcast with All In and Chamad and those guys.
Starting point is 00:03:40 All right, next, car makers rush to ship vehicles to US ahead of new round of April tariffs. Tom's got some thoughts on that Tesla vandalizers hit with severe charges Justice Department announces you got to hear this one good hex It makes move against judge after she blocked the trans troops ban and you have to see this tweet that Vinnie showed me yesterday Absolute epic what that was. Cori Bush, Cori Bush's husband charged in alleged COVID fraud scheme. Not many people are surprised but there's some commentary Tom wants to give on that. RFK calls to ban one of Big Pharma's most powerful tools, rattle drug makers despite uncertain political prospects.
Starting point is 00:04:23 By the way, if he does this, half of mainstream media companies will have to fire half their people and the other half will go out of business or be sold to somebody else. It's going to be devastating if he ends up doing this. Germany, foreigners account for one in three long-term unemployed. Foreigners account, it's a very interesting story there as well. The salary you need to be considered middle class in every state of America, Adam's got some thoughts on that. Snow White, we'll talk about Snow White.
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Starting point is 00:07:56 Rubio, and National Security Advisor Mike Walz texted war plans for Yemen strikes to a signal group that accidentally included Jeffrey Goldberg, editor-in-chief of the Atlantic. Goldberg reported, contained operational-chief of the Atlantic. Goldberg reported contained operational details of forthcoming strikes on Iran-backed Houthis rebel in Yemen, including information about targets, weapons the U.S. would be deploying, the attack sequencing, the National Security Council confirmed appears to be authentic, and Trump initially said, I don't know anything about it. You're telling me about it for the first time before joking via Elon Musk post 4D chess genius Trump leaks war plans to the
Starting point is 00:08:26 Atlantic where no one will ever see them. The leak revealed by the Atlantic on Monday sparked outrage. The Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer calling it one of the most stunning breaches of military intelligence I've ever read about in a very long time. Okay Rob, let's go through a couple of these clips. So here's a president in the Roosevelt room. Go for it, Rob. The story, the Atlantic, that said that some of your top cabinet officials and aides have been discussing very sensitive material through signaling and included an Atlantic reporter for that. What is your response to that? I don't know anything about it. I'm not a big fan of the Atlantic. To me, it's a magazine
Starting point is 00:09:02 that's going out of business. I think it's not much of a magazine, but I know nothing about it. You're saying that they had — what? The Press Secretary said they were using Signal to ordain on sensitive materials in the — The President is asking about the Houthis. The Press Secretary said they were using Signal to ordain on sensitive materials in the Houthis. The President is asking about the Houthis.
Starting point is 00:09:18 The Press Secretary said they were using Signal to ordain on sensitive materials in the Houthis. The President is asking about the Houthis. The Press Secretary said they were using Signal to ordain on sensitive materials in the Houthis. The President is asking about the Houthis. The Press Secretary said they were using Signal to ordain on sensitive materials in the Houthis. The President is asking about the Houthis. The President is asking about the Houthis. The Press Secretary said they were effective because the attack was very effective. I can tell you that. I don't know anything about it. You're telling me about it for the first time.
Starting point is 00:09:30 What else you got? You got one response from Hexeth as well? I do. This is Pete Hexeth getting off a plane where he's asked about the signal leak. Go for it. Exactly what we're doing as we speak from the beginning overwhelmingly Details shared on signal and how did you learn that a journalist was privy to the targets the types of weapons used? I've heard I've heard I was characterized Nobody was texting war plans and that's all I have to say about that Well, I think number one it appears that
Starting point is 00:10:06 everybody's pointing to Mike Waltz and that Mike Waltz apparently sent a text out and it included a journalist and the journalists are doing what they're doing they don't go through back channels to say hey is this secret? Should we protect the United States? Should we protect what's going on? That's not what the journalist does journalist does Hey, let's attack the administration and there is a newsworthy item if somebody kind of blew it and included a Journalist on here that that's not good. But let's face it. It was a signal
Starting point is 00:10:40 communication it wasn't like 22 megabytes of You know documents documents, documents, documents, documents, and I guess the Houthis didn't get it in time to duck because the attack happened and by most accounts that we're hearing, it was fairly effective on its targets. But that's a careless thing. And I don't think there's a person out there That's that's not sent a business email where you go to type a name and outlook and it finishes the name for you We know one's ever done that here. No never And it's like the wrong Mike Mike Jones Mike Jeffries instead of Mike Jones
Starting point is 00:11:20 Jones Mike Jones with the Porsche right isn't a Mike Jones you know what I mean you Mike Lowry I'm sorry Clone that's kind of careless and but you know Mike Waltz is a good man. He's a strong guy He's a right guy. Can I read you something that may upset you a little bit because this story Daily Mail Says national security advisor Mike Waltz firing after inviting the Atlantic editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg to a signal chat Okay, who tees PC small group discussing Yemen strikes with defense secretary pete hexette and jd vance a white house insider told political Everyone in the white house can agree on one thing Mike waltz is an effing idiot. Okay, this is what political this is story Well, this is also daily mail and there's no name. I totally get it So I'm just reading this to you on what's being said
Starting point is 00:12:01 And there's no name. I totally get it So I'm just reading this to you on what's being said While a senior official said half of them saying he's never going to survive or shouldn't noting It was reckless not to check who was on the threat. It was reckless to having conversation on signal, etc, etc And then at the same time, there's another one from Daily Mail that comes out saying JD Vance says Team I'm out of the day doing economic events in Michigan But I think we are making a terrible mistake. We're making a mistake to a Trump team, including National Security Mike Walz.
Starting point is 00:12:30 And then it continues, he warned, there's real risk that the public doesn't understand this or why it is necessary. I'm not sure the president is aware how inconsistent this is with the message on Europe right now, etc., etc. It's an advance express reluctance, but compliance saying I'm willing to support the consensuses of the team and keep these concerns to myself but there's strong argument for delaying this for a month doing this messaging work on why this matters seeing where the economy is etc etc and an excellent urge action replying we are prepared to execute in a five a final go
Starting point is 00:13:00 or no vote I believe we should. Mike Waltz noted per the president's request we are working with DOD and State of, to determine how to compile the costs associated and levy them on Europeans. All right, so that's what Daily Mail is saying, what happened here. Can I ask you a quick question? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:16 So if somebody on your staff was to say, hey Pat, I'm not sure about this, I've got a little bit different point of view here, but whatever you decide, I'm with you. Yeah. Do you want that or do you want silence? No, I love that. That was a point. It's so funny you were saying this. You see a businessman would think that way. I love that. I actually love the fact that there's an exchange. I love the fact there's like, hey, what do you think about this? What do you think about that? It's very normal for us. Nothing about the threat I'm reading
Starting point is 00:13:40 says to me that this shows to me that they're willing to have discourse, debate, exchange. So maybe he was on purpose. Because think about it, devil's advocate, maybe it was on purpose. It doesn't make sense. Why is Mike Walls... Doesn't sound like they work for a dictator. Yeah, but see, and that's what me and Jake were talking about, maybe that was the whole ploy is to have something like this league.
Starting point is 00:14:00 By the way, why is Mike Walls messaging anybody from the Atlantic? Why is he even in your, the Goldberg guy, why is is even in your the Goldberg guy why is even in your chat why would you add him in there there's no other Goldberg whatever that's in the White House that would be involved in this situation anyway so maybe it was a way to show like hey listen look what we're doing behind closed doors yeah we messed up and it could be maybe they want to get what's this guy's name Tom though the Mike Mike walls Yeah, it looks to me like if you wanted to fire somebody gets well guess what's a good way to get his ass fired
Starting point is 00:14:30 Have something like this happen and then leak it. There's a wrong guy to be aiming at I think this guy's really capable. He was an early, you know Confirmation and he's really strong in position Gorkas on his team So yeah, that's what I think there. The other thing is it's not unusual how many media people do you have your phone I am in my phone. Yeah true but I mean in a signal like this though this is serious. That's bad well but there's also another angle to it. If I'm if I'm a cabinet member I only want to communicate with the media on a secure channel. I don't want to risk that it gets sniffed on a Gmail or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Let's see what our foreign affairs expert has to say. Adam, your thoughts on this. Well, yeah. You know, I was actually also on the text chat and I saw this coming a mile away. So you know, one of your major words that you're using these days is signal over noise, right? This happened on signal, ironically. To me, this is a lot of noise.
Starting point is 00:15:25 The signal is we know who the enemy is. We're going after the Houthi's part of the Iran proxies out there. And this was an accident by apparently a capable guy. And he screwed up. Let's let's call a spade a spade here. If this were the Biden administration and they accidentally texted Fox News, you don't think the right would be having a field day with the morons in the DEI woke administration. You guys can't even do this.
Starting point is 00:15:59 The reality is what Trump said is correct. Well, we carried out the attack. We know who the enemy is. These Islamic extremists, Houthis that are basically, there's been a war in Yemen for over a decade, proxy war between Iran backed Houthis and Saudi backed Yemen government. And we know who at least we're solving for. But you know what's funny? Another one of your words this year, Pat, correct me if I'm wrong, is speed.
Starting point is 00:16:25 But another one of your words is your pet correctly if I'm wrong is speed. So you wrote in your book, here's a little preview preview to the if you're going to buy your next five moves, you said, when you trust someone, you can go faster, speed. So this is going to be a roadblock in the administration. I don't think anybody should be fired over this. But when you go fast, things are going to break. So this was a break in the administration. It's so funny. There's a comedian out there. This guy, Ralph Barbosa. Have you seen this guy? Hilarious. Great basketball player for the sons. Go ahead. That's Leandro Barbosa de Brasile. So this guy's out there just killing it. This guy's killing it. Him and Marcelo,
Starting point is 00:17:04 I think, he's really funny. He goes, yo, you this guy's killing it. Yeah, he's got a sense of humor He's really funny. He goes yo, you know, you know typically Trump he came in and This guy is like doing like a hundred different things in like the first hundred days. It's crazy You know people say you know, you got a list of things to do, you know, they don't actually do them You know, you say you got to go home. You got to do laundry or do dishes Well, you maybe you'll watch Netflix. He gotta do laundry, you gotta do dishes. Maybe you'll watch Netflix. He goes, Trump didn't watch Netflix or nothing. He just went for it.
Starting point is 00:17:31 So Trump is just basically fulfilling so many things in his first hundred days. Things are going to break. I wanna show a couple things. When you go that fast. So when it comes on to Atlantic, Rob, I got a couple things I want people to know about the Atlantic. The owner of the Atlantic is Steve Jobs' widow. I think it's Laura Powell Jobs.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Wait, widow? Widow? She's dead? No, he's dead, Vinny. Steve Jobs' dead. Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad. If I said it correctly. My brain had a… So, she buys the Atlantic, okay? And in an interview, she's being asked, and I'm going to show you an article that the Atlantic wrote in a minute, but Rob, can you pull up the clip of what she said in an interview of why they bought it, this is Kamala Harris sitting next to her, and then watch when she
Starting point is 00:18:08 gets asked about the New York Times at the end. Can you see when this was, Rob? Can you go back to the date? This is a while back. This is 2024. This is two weeks before election. This is when they're thinking Kamala's going to win. Most people haven't seen this, Rob.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Go back and play this clip, please. So watch this, folks. This is the owner of the Kamala's gonna win. Most people haven't seen this rap. Go back and play this clip, please. So watch this, folks. This is the owner of the Atlantic. Go for it. To support sustainable food production, BHP is building one of the world's largest hot ash mines in Canada. Essential resources responsibly produced. It's happening now at BHP, a future resources company.
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Starting point is 00:19:19 do this work forever and ever, and we could have the narrative overtaken by someone who has a lot of power who is completely contrary to us and we could never get to the place where we think we are part of the creation of cultural narrative that would enhance and amplify all the work that we're doing. Which as Hillary Clinton talked about today is telling the story, getting the content out there. Yeah, she does. Look at Kamala.
Starting point is 00:20:00 So these are early days for us but that's the idea behind it. We want to inspire the kind of stories that we'd like to see told. Do you ever see you buying something bigger, like the New York Times, for example? Are they for sale? Is it for sale? It could be for you. Bingo. So controlling the narrative.
Starting point is 00:20:17 So now, let me show you one thing that's a little bit strange. Here's a story they wrote three years ago, four years ago, I think in 2021. Rob, if you want wanna pull up this picture, the one I sent you, you know which one I'm talking about. Did you get it or no? I only have the video. Okay, so when you see this, folks, you tell me what kind of narrative she wants to control.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's just speculation, but this is what happens. This is a woman that gave away, pledged to give $3 a half billion dollars to a combat climate change over the next decade. This is to Waverly Street Foundation. She's worth around fourteen billion dollars. She's given away billions of dollars to different folks, different donations.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Watch this one here. The Atlantic. Here's a story to the right This is an article called the great fake child sex Trafficking epidemic Rob. Can you do me a favor exit that real quick and go search that title to make sure that is not Because I did that this morning just to make sure the great fake. Yeah, exactly Child trafficking. Let's see what comes up. Okay? So, is there such a story? Bingo.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Click on it. So they did write that. Okay? So, the great fake child sex trafficking epidemic. Alright, so that's from four years ago. And then go back to that picture. And who was she seen sitting next to by? Oh, Ghislaine Maxwell.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Okay. Cozy and up next to Ghislaine Maxwell. Sex trafficking. next to by... Oh, Ghislaine Maxwell. Cozy and up next to Ghislaine Maxwell. Sex trafficking. So look, the point is, when you look at a paper and you wonder, are they really winning? Are they really advancing? Are they really pushing an agenda?
Starting point is 00:21:58 Or are people really done with this? So this is the credibility of a paper like the Atlantic. But the narrative of being controlled is Happening by buying magazines like this and getting everybody realized this child child sex trafficking stuff. It's just fake that doesn't happen We don't have hundreds of thousands of missing children every year that movie sound of freedom was just a movie That island with that that Epstein. I know Giving massage is in Rami. Yeah. Yeah movie, Vinny. That island with that Epstein guy, they just love giving massages. They play Jin Rami. Yeah, it's what they do. It was a QAnon conspiracy theory. That didn't exist.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Freaking demons. But anyway, so they just got to make sure they can't be, they got to be a little bit more like if that happened on our team, we would have a very serious meeting and it would be like guys, you can only make this mistake one time. You can't do it second time. You do it second time, you're out. We can't do nothing about this here. You cannot be leaking information at this level to others and make sure when you're sending a group, my job is to check who else is in this group, your job is to check who you're adding in the group.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Make sure the names are the right names. So we're literally on my text. How many group texts? You put me one in this week, like we're trying to see who's in it. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, of course. WhatsApp, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:04 But you always have to give a title for the group. You ever send the wrong text? And you just gotta leave it. Send me the wrong pictures. I'm like, listen, stop texting me all these weird pictures. Are you serious? Yeah, it's like, but anyways. I'm dating a girl named Patricia.
Starting point is 00:23:19 You gotta get your group stream. You gotta be careful, you know, my friends, Miami's Herpes Cure, you know, all the groups that you got on there. You do not friends Miami's herpes cure. You know Okay Trump tariff response Rolls Royce planning to shift production to us to avoid Trump tariffs report okay, so let's see what's going on here guys. I got it. I got three Handful of charts. I want to show you with this that is is all let me tell you these charts that Brandon found I have to show you this and credit goes to him finding these charts but they're insane all right let's read this British engineering firm Rolls Royce is planning to boost US production to dodge
Starting point is 00:23:55 President Donald Trump's tariffs per London's daily Telegraph a source told the paper if you're if you are making something in countries like China then you'll be looking at whether you can do it in the US instead. The company known for aerospace and defense may shift from China, Canada, to Mexico where it employs around 6,000 workers, and even from the UK and Europe if tariffs hit. A Rolls Royce spokesperson said, we have additional capacity with some of our US operations and continuously seek to explore options to ensure that our global internal supply chain is optimized for delivery to
Starting point is 00:24:30 Customers in the US the US is vital for Rolls-Royce making up a third of its global sales With key clients like us Department of Defense Boeing Lockheed Martin last year it earned You know seven billion dollars in North America Versus three point three six billion dollar in UK and eight point four billion in Europe you got to realize most people we think about Rolls-Royce what do we think about cars of course but that's what they're famous for making oh wow that's the number one thing the engines they make on planes they'll say we have a Rolls-Royce engine I know that yes but we think about the car engines for warplanes yeah and just
Starting point is 00:25:02 engines there's a couple other stories but I'll just turn it over to you Tom your thoughts on this here. Well, first of all, this is a sign that the tariffs are working. Bingo. So we're trying to get it balanced. And Rolls Royce says, I'll tell you what, I ship a lot of engines to the Department of Defense,
Starting point is 00:25:16 and they ship key clients like Boeing and Lockheed. Oh, those are engines going to our defense contractors. And Lockheed Martin, don't forget Martin and so tariffs are working and what's also interesting related to this is if you take a look there's also a Wall Street Journal report. Now this is this was Breitbart and then there was an FT story then there was a Wall Street Journal story so everybody's saying the same things and no one wants to say the simple headline tariffs are working now
Starting point is 00:25:46 Wall Street Journal being very negative the biggest auto losers and Trump's trade war so far luxury brands and they go on to say that The BMW 3 Series blah blah blah blah blah, and they put all these stats out of poor BMW poor BMW And then all these q5 SUV poor Audi poor Audi Wait a minute what German carmaker is left out of that list we got BMW. We got Audi. Where's Mercedes? I'll tell you where Mercedes is you know where Mercedes is they're in Tuscaloosa, Alabama Where they invested in the US years ago? And they build the GLE the GLS GLE and all of their electric vehicles the EQS and EQE It's their number one factory
Starting point is 00:26:31 in the world outside of the core factory they have in Germany. And 60% of what they make in Tuscaloosa, Alabama is exported around the world with 16,000 American jobs. So guess what, The tariffs are working. And somebody like Mercedes is like, well I've been here forever, this really doesn't bother me because I've been employing American workers and I'm exporting Mercedes around the world.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And so what Rolls Royce is doing is great and that's the proper response. They say, look, our customers over in the US, why don't we make our stuff there? And everything else. The tariffs are working and look at the jobs that are coming and look at how the products are reacting.
Starting point is 00:27:11 And by the way, guess what? If that BMW 3 Series is $10,000 more expensive, guess what? Mercedes is happy to sell you a C. Oh wow. And just because you mentioned Boeing, because obviously you have your thoughts, Trump just awarded Boeing because you talked about it, to develop US Air Force's next generation fighter jet,
Starting point is 00:27:32 the F-47, which will replace the F-22 Raptor. The deal is $20 billion. It just happened. That plane is a beast. That plane is ridiculous. Look at that thing. Damn. It will own the skies.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Okay, so let me show you something here, which is something for everybody to think about when it comes down to this. Rob, I'm going to text this to you if you can please pull up this file. Oh, you have it already. Yes. Okay, can you go all the way to the top? Go all the way to the top, the main chart. So check this out.
Starting point is 00:27:57 This is China's, oh close it up Rob, don't show the bottom one, just show the top one. Yeah, that one right there. Watch this. This is manufacturing, global manufacturing 2000. Look where we were at. 25% of global manufacturing came through us. Look who was second. You got the bottom left, MBA 21%.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Then you have UMC. Is that UMC or UMIC? Then you got Japan 11%, Germany 8%. and then you have China at what percent? 6% yeah, what happens in 2001? China gets welcome to join the World Trade Organization. Okay, and That's December 11 of 01. So here we go Manufacturing now we're to go to China. No problem, go to the next chart Rob.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Then look what happens, 2030, 45% of manufacturing goes to them. Look where we are, 11%. Can you go back up and see where we were and they were? We were at 25%, this is jobs in the US, China was 6. China goes to 45%, we drop to 11%. 11% is where it goes to. Now this is what's very important about this, by the way Japan drops to 5%, I think they were at 11% if you go a little bit higher.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Yeah, Japan was at 11%, they dropped to 5%. China takes everyone's lunch. Can you go back to the top? So here's what they did. Germany lost half too. They took us, they took Japan, they took every Germany, they took every, they're at 45%. Who paid a price for this? Go a little bit lower by states.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Michigan. Go a little bit lower Rob. Watch this. This is Michigan. Look at 2001 when we joined the World Trade Organization. What happens to manufacturing jobs in Michigan? Boom, drops. How bad?
Starting point is 00:29:45 Not a slight drop. Look where it was at in the thousands on the left, 80,000 persons on the left. It drops to what? Less than 20,000 just seven years later when you see that 2008, 2009. Go to the next state. Go to the next state. Ohio, look at 2001, drops. Go to the next state, Rob.
Starting point is 00:30:04 You got Pennsylvania, steel, 2001, look where they're at. Look at the immediate drop off of what they have and where they're at today. Go to the next state. These are all jobs that US, Indiana, look at how steep this one is. Indiana loses their job, boom, crashes all the way down. Go to the next one, Rob. Illinois, here's Illinois for you from 2001, drops. Clinton started this initiative early on, and then it took him 10 or 15 years to finally
Starting point is 00:30:28 get it finalized. 10 years to get it finalized, I want to say something like that. 8 years to get it finalized. You got Carolina. Go to the next one, Carolina. Look at this one here. Keep going next Rob. Go to the next one.
Starting point is 00:30:38 South Carolina. Look at this one. How obvious and evident is it? And I'll tell you why. Go to Wisconsin. These are all people that had jobs. Go to New Wisconsin. These are all people that had jobs go to New York These are all people that had jobs, California Do you know what happened when that took place? Look at California's by the way Vinny look at California's drop
Starting point is 00:30:54 When we allowed China to join the World Trade Organization So now the question becomes what the question is what why did this happen? You know why you know what labor was in China at that time? Per hour? Do you know what it was? Nothing. 50 cents per hour. Slave labor. Of course. 50 cents per hour. So allowing China to join the World Trade Organization, who did it help? China. No. Of course China. But who else did it help? It also helped us because we get way cheaper goods. Who did it help in America though? Walmart. It helped the rich because the rich got richer.
Starting point is 00:31:32 It allowed the rich to say, why am I hiring people in America? Let me send these jobs off to what? Overseas. To China, overseas, somewhere else 50 cents. And do you know for the first time in the last two years, a minimum wage for low wage employees is now lower in Mexico than it was in China by 50 cents. By 50 cents it's lower. So that's why China is building their car manufacturing in Mexico called the Haffy Son,
Starting point is 00:31:56 right? But if you look at China, they're paying 50 cents per labor, rich gets richer, poor gets poorer, these jobs leave America, and you know what these tariffs are now doing? These tariffs are now forcing people to bring those jobs back to America. One by one by one, we made China a behemoth, allowing them to join the World Trade Organization, knowing companies were hiring slave labor for 50, 70 cents an hour while those jobs are 10, 15, 20 bucks an hour in America. That's how all these jobs were lost. So, for the people that are bitching and whining about tariffs, be patient.
Starting point is 00:32:35 You want those jobs coming back. The rich got richer, trust me. I'm a beneficiary of it. The rich got richer in a very big way. What happened to our middle class since 2001? What was the average median income in 2001? How different is it compared to today? Can you go and look it up, Rob? Median income in 2001?
Starting point is 00:32:54 What was the median income in 2001? Median income 2001, 42,000. Go look at what it is today. So that's 42,000 24 years ago. Just put 2025. What is it now? 25 years later, it's not even doubled. It's gone up 80%.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Okay, go to 2021 and type in who was the richest man in 2021. Who was the richest man in 2001? What was it? How much billion? Bill Gates? 58 billion? Who's the richest man today, Rob? Still Elon. What is the number? I say Burtmore, Tesla. $350 billion. So the wealth 7xed, but the median income only went up 80%. Why? Cheaper
Starting point is 00:33:41 labor in China. It's basic mathematics. So this whole conversation with terrorists when people start panicking and trying to use fear porn and all this other stuff and then you bring it down and you realize what he's doing is causing companies to say I'm gonna bring those jobs to America like this UAE saying 1.4 trillion dollar investment in the states, like you're hearing Saudi 600 billion dollars, like Hyundai, like Rolls Royce, like all these guys saying we're gonna bring it here. They're helping Americans and every American should be
Starting point is 00:34:17 happy about it, that includes Democrats, but unfortunately they wanna see a filled administration and it's just working. No wonder why, I mean when you break it down like this, like this much detail, no wonder why China hates and hated Trump so much that in 2020 I believe that they unleashed COVID because they wanted to keep that guy out of the office because he's doing exactly what the hell you're talking about right now, putting America first. That's it. That's like, it's not about it. And they're so powerful, besides building, buying up all the land near our military bases and flying balloons everywhere. You still can't say definitively, China released COVID. You still can't say it. Yeah, no, it's unbelievable. It was a
Starting point is 00:35:01 bad, but think about it, when it comes to that, when it comes to this serious amount of money and power, now it makes complete, complete sense. Tom, don't you think? You know what's really interesting to me on all this? I'm not ready to go there and say that China intentionally released the virus and it wasn't just like a boondoggle and then denied and everything. I'm not quite there that it was intentional trying to unseat Trump. But I'll tell you what's very interesting.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Hyundai, and you saw it yesterday, announced as part of this, he said, we had a conversation that started in 2019 with Trump. And we wanted to bring a steel plant to Louisiana and then use the steel there to make cars and put some Hyundai auto factories here. In 2019, it didn't happen and it's 2025 Chairman Yi Sun Chung has come back to President Trump. So what happened between 2019 and 2025? COVID. No, think about also who was president. Right. There was a deal on the table from Hyundai that says I'll make jobs for you and I'll put a steel factory there and I'll use the steel to make my cars.
Starting point is 00:36:15 This is CNBC this morning, 3 or 4 a.m. they reported on the Hyundai deal, the $20 billion investment into the United States. Go for it. South Korean auto giant Hyundai will announce a $20 billion investment into the United States. Go for it. South Korean auto giant Hyundai will announce a $20 billion investment in the United States when its chairman visits the White House today. Sources say that that pledge includes $5 billion set for a steel plant in Louisiana with plans to hire 1,500 employees and produce next generation steel for Hyundai and Kia cars. That move comes after similar investment commitments from SoftBank and chipmaker Taiwan Semiconductor earlier this year.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Did you hear what Ronald Reagan said about tariffs years ago? Have you seen that clip? No. Have you seen the Ronald Reagan clip on tariffs? What is that? Rob, if you can find this, there's a clip of Ronald Reagan on tariffs. And let me see where this is. Humberto, guys in the back, if you know, I just watched his video yesterday, that's not the one.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Let me see. Anyways, they'll send it to you. Let me see how it explains it. No, it's a different one that he has. But look, here's the reality of it. If the jobs are being forced to come back to the states, their jobs are being forced to come back to the states, and Americans should want that.
Starting point is 00:37:25 And America helped China become a behemoth after the deal and the data now proves it and those jobs were taken from many states that a lot of people relied on and that destroyed a lot of people's lives. It just did. It made the rich richer but it hurt a lot of people's lives. Adam, go for it. I think Trump is doing what he should be doing. I also am adamant that I think he needs to do a better job marketing what he's doing because people are very
Starting point is 00:37:55 confused. Markets have been confused. You know with the one word we hear coming out of you know Wall Street and the big banks as clarity. Let's just get clear on this. There's a lot of confusion in the marketplace So he's very good at marketing. He's very good at slogans. Lock her up drain the swamp build the wall Come up with a slogan to summarize Why you're doing this because you know, there's a term called inside baseball You ever heard that term of course, you know, you might have, you know, been a familiar with a thing or two for since you're
Starting point is 00:38:28 part of the Yankees. Inside baseball is like, dude, you're being a little too technical. Tom, you might have heard this before. So some people need sort of a bigger grandiose sort of easier to digest, simple, effective slogan. So like, here's a couple of suggestions for Trump to maybe roll out what you're doing with tariffs. Let me know what you guys think. You're ready? So make America great again. Right? So here we go. Fair trade. Now, not bad. Could be a thing. Stop trade cheaters came up with that three words here we go this is actually serious boost
Starting point is 00:39:05 American businesses guy all right make sense strength through trade shout out to Ronald Reagan right here Ronnie you know peace through strength balanced trade deficits I don't know guys give your suggestions but Trump needs to do a better job marketing and have a better slogan. I don't know if you're getting a job anytime soon. I don't think I don't think I don't think so, but I there have been you know You read the headlines from Wall Street and you get one story and they like to spin it We've been talking about that but below the headlines you find out guess what? The markets are nervous
Starting point is 00:39:44 during During the reaction phase but things are happening for the good. That's the message. The markets are nervous and they're bouncing around because they're on sentiment, oh, is tomorrow going to rain or not going to rain? I don't know. And so the markets bounce up and down because what's happening on the markets? Traders, speculators, and they're all trying to make a buck. So when they hear comments that they don't know how
Starting point is 00:40:06 to process They push markets in the motion by making big trades puts and that's what's going on But you just hang tight because thing good things are happening and you every day You can take a look at the people that are reacting to the tariffs and they're doing the things that exactly what is good long-term Let's go to the next story here RFK calls to ban one of big pharma's most powerful tool Rattle drug makers despite uncertain political prospects by the way if they pull this off We had this conversation. I had a conversation with him on this and I had the conversation with Vivek on this so Bobby Bobby Kennedy, nominated
Starting point is 00:40:45 by Trump as DHS, HHS has alarmed drug makers with his push to ban direct-to-consumer pharmaceutical advertising saying on October 31st in Glendale, Arizona, one of the things I'm going to advise Trump to do in order to correct the chronic disease epidemic is to ban pharmaceutical advertising on TV. He noted there's only two countries in the world, us and New Zealand, and we have the highest disease rate and we buy more drugs and they're more expensive than anywhere in the world. If confirmed, Kennedy could influence the FDA and HHS, which regulate the ads. Kennedy stands back by allies like Elon Musk, who wrote on X on November 19th on advertising
Starting point is 00:41:21 on pharma and Dr. Bacharia, Trump's pick for National Institutes of Health, who said on May 30th, 2023, because of DTC ad drug companies like Pfizer hold a grip, vice grip, on the editorial policies and for conventional American media, suggest media buys from ad revenue. Adam. PBD, I gotta give credit to where credits do.
Starting point is 00:41:45 You called this? A long time ago. A long time ago. So, you know, in that same podcast, correct me if I'm wrong, we were in Boca, it was 2021, we were in the studio, it was our friend Zubi was in the house.
Starting point is 00:41:59 We were talking about Saudi, we were talking about the difference between New York City and Saudi, and in that exact same conversation, shout out to you Zuby, we talked about what countries allow advertising on TV. Very obscure stat. Why would you even know this?
Starting point is 00:42:12 Advertising for Big Pharma, it was New Zealand, shout out to our friend Chad, and number two, United States of America. And then you went in on this talking about Big Pharma and you basically said there's three things that are keeping the mainstream, lame stream media live still. And number one is live sports. Number two is literally boomers and senior citizens still watching the mainstream media news and the number three, which you're very much talking against is Big Pharma. And then what percentage of their ad revenue comes from Big Pharma? I want to say like 75%, something like that.
Starting point is 00:42:47 It's a big percentage. It's a big number. And here's Bobby Kennedy coming in, shutting it down. Rob, what clip was that that you had? There's a few. I found the original clip. This is where RFK made the announcement back in October. And then there's also the clip of you
Starting point is 00:43:03 that's going viral talking about there you go. Can I hear that? So I'm talking about PBD. It was a while ago. George Janko from the cigar lounge. Go for it. So you know who the third one is that's keeping cable in business? Pharma. Pharma. Do you know what percentage of every dollar on sponsorship and ads cable TV gets from pharma what percentage is from pharma percentage for every dollar percentage so think about movie commercials you know car commercials clothing commercials all these different companies that do commercials so many industries something ridiculous like 70% it's 75% okay
Starting point is 00:43:38 ding ding ding 75% so check this out watch how crazy this is watch how crazy this is okay how crazy this is okay? How is that even legal to do that? Can you while I'm doing this just on your phone Google what percentage of? Pharma cable advertisement it's going to come up saying 75% now watch this 75% right stay with me here, so now we have to answer the question is it Moral to advertise getting more people taking drugs? Okay, what's wrong with that?
Starting point is 00:44:09 It's their choice, they gotta do it, no problem. So then why is it out of nearly 200 countries in the world, only two of them allow pharmaceutical companies to advertise on TV? And the other one, 98 don't. That's a good looking smart guy right there, I don't know. Is that Jankos girl? Yeah, wife. Good you. Is that Jenko's girl? Yeah, wife good for him. Let me tell you let me tell you something about What this means so let's process this
Starting point is 00:44:32 Imagine your CNN Imagine your Fox Imagine your MSNBC imagine your CBS Every one of these guys is taking money from pharma. Just so you know that every one of them Everyone of these guys is taking money from pharma just so you know that every one of them 75 years old, you know back problems knee problem hip problems all this whatever it is. They're taking the money, right? If that number is 75% Vinnie, yeah if a talent at MSNBC or CNN is making six million 75% of revenue goes away. What is a 75% reduction to a $6 million salary? What do you go to? Four off?
Starting point is 00:45:06 You're now officially at $1.5 million. So if you're paying somebody $6 million at CNN, now it's $1.5 million. Do you know how different life is at $6 million versus $1.5? It's a very different life. It's very different. Living in New York, half of it has gone already for taxes.
Starting point is 00:45:21 You gotta give 10% of it to your manager that negotiated that deal. Okay, so $1.5 million, $1.5 million goes to him. So then you're left with whatever. Now you're no longer in New York able to live on Long Island or whatever. Yeah, lifestyle changes very quickly. If he approves this, half of mainstream media companies are for sale. Half of them are for sale.
Starting point is 00:45:43 And that aggregator is going to come in and pick them up and create a holding company, whatever you want to call it, a roll-up where all these companies are going to be together. That's what will happen because if they don't know how to make money, not taking money from them, you know what it's like? It's like in sales, when Tom and I one time were in a Vistage meeting, we're talking 15 years ago, 16 years ago, one of the guys in a Vististage meeting I won't say his name, but it was a Middle Eastern guy I think you helped him out for about a year and a half as well in a meeting He says my revenue was 10 million dollars great and
Starting point is 00:46:16 and then he says What's you guy named John asked? What's your biggest revenue? Is it from one client? He says yeah, one of my clients brings seven million dollars of that 10 million. John says, what are you gonna do if you lose that one client? And you see the guy's look on his face. He's a little bit like, why'd you ask me a question like that? It's a tough question to ask.
Starting point is 00:46:38 You know what happens? They lose a guy. What happens if you lose that guy? It's your finito. You go from 10 million to what now? 3 million. So there's a big business there, big difference in that business there. If Big Pharma is out...
Starting point is 00:46:54 Rachel Maddow loses money? Well Rachel Maddow is holding MSNBC, in my opinion, hostage because she's got something on them. I don't know what it is, but if that happens, it's disruption at the highest level. Tom, your thoughts? at the highest level. Tom, your thoughts. All the small channels, so what do we know about CNN
Starting point is 00:47:12 and MSNBC today? They're barely hanging on, they're not getting viewership, and what do we also know is happening with Over the Top and cable rates, they're losing cable rates, they're losing money from, not losing money, but the money they used to get from DirecTV is going down. The money they used to get from the cable side is going down because the subscribers are going down. If now they're already today with the viewership going down, they can't charge as much for ads from pharmaceutical companies among them, and they're already out there trimming, I mean CNN went and cut everybody,
Starting point is 00:47:47 everybody was cut 50% at least except Anderson Cooper. And there you go. The small, like MSNBC, I don't think it's a viable channel anymore. I think it's gone. I don't think it's for sale. I think that it's just gone. There's nothing to do with it.
Starting point is 00:48:04 They say, well look, now we got viewership here. We can only get this much ad dollars. So we have to cancel these contracts. What do you have left? What do you have left? You don't have a viable business left. And that's it. You know what's screwing things up?
Starting point is 00:48:19 Yesterday we were at the cigar lounge last night. Guess what you turn on to watch cable nowadays? You'll turn on Hulu. You'll turn on YouTube. You'll turn on, it's a very. I'll go to X and watch something. But it's a very, very different world we're living in. But an aggregator is going to buy up a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:48:38 They're already talking about them. But they're gonna buy up a lot of them. You had a couple of your friends that came here that are aggregators. They're gonna be picking people up, left and right, and then building a super media company. Go for it. Can I give maybe a different perspective?
Starting point is 00:48:53 So, you know, anytime that something is a massive change in the market, we think like, oh my God, certain industry is dead. Oh my God, they're never gonna recover. You know, we've heard this with AI, and so I'm just thinking, you know, if a big percentage of pharma goes bye bye, meaning they can't advertise on TV, they're going to go someplace else. Where are they going to advertise? Maybe they're going radio, maybe they're going to the internet,
Starting point is 00:49:16 maybe they're going print, like, they have a ton of ad dollars to spend on marketing. So I don't think that pharmaceuticals are going to necessarily just dissipate and fold. So what is mainstream media? What is the cable gonna do? They're gonna go to whoever number two, number three, number four advertisers are and say, hey look, we got good deal for you.
Starting point is 00:49:36 We got good deal for you. And they're gonna cut a deal with some of these, whether it's auto industry type sector, whether it's any senior product that's out there, diapers, who knows, but I think they're gonna as much as we're sort of rooting for the the death nail in the mainstream media, whether it's Fox, whether it's CNN, whether it's MSNBC, they're going to take alternative measures to sort of bring in advertisers to still advertise on TV. They're not just going to fold.
Starting point is 00:50:11 They're going to fight. You think so you think MSNBC and CNN all these people are going to I don't think we're going to see they're not just going to go out without a fight. No, we're going to go to the rest of their advertisers and say like who are the biggest advertisers on mainstream media? pharmaceuticals 75 automotive cars retail consumer packaging apparently insurance technology So you're gonna see other here you go your Progressive carvana t-mobile that's all though. It's okay. Yeah, all right
Starting point is 00:50:38 But the point is all these companies are gonna have more opportunities because Rob, you know this because you worked in radio It's only gonna be you only there's only in radio. There's only gonna be one thing. There's only gonna be what? It's only gonna be one shift. Look, newspapers. Mm-hmm. Okay, what happened to newspapers? The physical newspaper.
Starting point is 00:50:54 They went online, they went digital. If CNN, MSNBC, these guys don't know how to go digital, it's over. It's over. They're gonna be discounted. They're gonna have to find, like Joy Reid right now, she's doing a what? She's doing a podcast.
Starting point is 00:51:10 She's messed up with Don Lemon. You think they're getting paid the same kind of money as they did before? No. They better be. Joy Reid is now working with Don Lemon? No, no, they did a podcast together, which was underwhelming, but they did a podcast together.
Starting point is 00:51:23 What's the point though? They have to find a way to make money. You think she's gonna be able to financially make the same amount of money doing her podcast stuff personally? No where near, it's just a build it. Nobody wants to hear her. And the market is gonna filter out a lot of people. For sure.
Starting point is 00:51:39 It's gonna do a lot of people. Let's go to the next one here. A US gold card scheme, a hit. Trump's top official Says I think it's Lutnik says 1,000 sold in a day and that was a five million dollar gold card guys watch this year Go for it Rob Speaking of potentially great ideas. Can you tell us about the trump card? Sure. So Whose idea was that and how did that come about?
Starting point is 00:52:03 John Paulson Had a call with Donald Trump and was talking to Donald Trump and was kicking around the idea of we should sell Right. Why do we give away visas? We should sell them and they're talking about it Donald Trump calls me gets me on the phone, right? We all talk about it Right, and then we go from there And then my job is to figure out, like I always figure out, how to do it. What's the path? Do you have a path?
Starting point is 00:52:32 Of course, about two weeks from today, it goes out. Okay, Elon's building me the software right now. Yeah. Right? And then out it goes. And by the way, yesterday I sold a thousand house. Oh you did. I got a poly market I created on how many of you guys gonna sell this year cool. Yeah curious to see how many that's fantastic Yes, I saw my thousand no, I'm down at five million. That's five billion dollars
Starting point is 00:52:59 She's in one day Tom thoughts. Well, I think That everybody's saying oh, you know, you're just, you're out there just selling out the USA. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let's go back to the facts. There are a ton of countries that have been selling you a second citizenship for money. It's been going on forever. That's right.
Starting point is 00:53:24 And you can go get it. You can get a second citizenship for Belize, for Costa Rica, and for a lot of weird small countries all around the globe and it costs you money. And then Trump says wait a minute, you know what Trump thinks of the United States? Hmm. Park place. We are Boardwalk and Park Place. So why don't we make a gold
Starting point is 00:53:49 visa and charge $5 million for it and see how many people in the rest of the world want to come here? And by the way, and before they even come here, they give $5 million to our government. I love it. By the way, do you know how long it would take to, at the long-term capital gains rate, you know, they would have to earn as citizens to get $5 billion to the IRS. How much it's 20% capital gains. They'd have to make a hundred million dollars so that you could come back. You see that? Yeah, there you go. And so I think this is, I think this is great. And you're, as long as you're doing background checks
Starting point is 00:54:26 and double checking that who is actually buying this, you're letting people buy it here the same way people have been buying around the world. Was there a limit? Is there a limit of how much they're saying that they're gonna sell? I mean, you can't just say it's open for everybody. Even if you sell 100,000.
Starting point is 00:54:40 100,000 is not a lot. 100,000 at five billion. Is what? I think it's half a hundred thousand. A hundred thousand is not a lot. A hundred thousand at five billion. Is what? I think it's half a trillion dollars. So if a thousand is five billion, ten thousand is fifty billion, a hundred thousand is five hundred, they would have to sell a million at five million to get five trillion, which they're not going to get two million. But if they get two, even this basic membership of it down, obviously the background check stuff, you gotta go through our cigar lounge.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Couple things about the cigar lounge. Guess what? Everybody goes through a background check and nobody can take their cell phones inside. Everybody. So if you go there and you see another person who's a member, background check, no cell phones. No one's going in our cigar lounge and going like this.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Hey, you know. No one's doing that. You can't do like this. Yeah. Hey, you know good. No one's doing that You can't do that. There is no None of the boardroom cigar round. Yeah, let me write everybody applies. They submit the application somebody calls them they do an interview they do the background check then they send the payment and Well, yeah, I'm assuming they're gonna do the same thing with the five million Adam Do you have any thoughts how many people do you think around the world can afford five million dollars? And what kind of net worth do you need to have in order to pay five million dollars?
Starting point is 00:55:47 Oh, one thousand and counting. Right, but no I got that part, but I want to know like how many do you think like what does your net worth need to be to say? All right, here's five million. Like it's not going to be six million. No, no. I think it's a hundred million. So I think your 50 million of liquid Cash or investible cash that you have if you put 10% of it and you know, the country is gonna be growing. Mm-hmm Maybe 50 million. Where do you think like I have I actually think this is a good idea But I don't stop at hey a great idea go get him. It's like, alright, what countries are they coming from? What's the vetting process?
Starting point is 00:56:24 You know, I'd be very curious are they coming from? What's the vetting process? You know, I'd be very curious. Are they coming from China? Are they coming from Saudi Arabia? Are they coming from Venezuela? Like, where are they coming from? And are these people like if you have $100 million, you know what you got? You got options. You could go to San Tropez. You can go to, you know, Dubai, you can go anywhere you want in the world and buy citizenship. So I'm wondering why the US, do they really need this? It's interesting that they're doing this. I think it's a great revenue generator.
Starting point is 00:56:53 You know, if you kind of just like juxtapose what Trump said in his first political speech when he came down that escalator with Melania and he says Mexico, they're not sending their best. They're drug dealers. They're rapists. And I guess some are very fine people. But now, look who's coming through this country. Like the coming through the border, not exactly the greatest people in the world.
Starting point is 00:57:16 What's the group from Venezuela that he's all going to get? And now he's basically bringing in the arguably the best, the brightest, the richest around the world. I think it's a great idea I just want to understand who these people are because Think about if you're trying to you're like, yo, here's a couple billion bucks Go ahead go buy US citizenship wink wink and then go get to work for us. There needs to be a strict vetting process Oh, yeah, I mean the background check is absolutely it it's amazing, and by the way, the border, nobody's coming to the border right now. That shit is shut down, period.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Tom, to Adam's question there, World Census data says there are approximately three million people in the world with a $50 million net worth, 50. That's a big number. That's a lot. Three million with 50, and they only's a big number, it's a lot. Three million with 50, and they only got a thousand of them so far.
Starting point is 00:58:09 So that means there's plenty of market left for it. And what did they put it at? The EB-5 program is capped at 10,000 per year, with 3,000 reserved for investment in high unemployment areas. Okay, there you go. Let's see what happens with it. All right, let's go to the next story here.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Let's see what happens with it. All right, let's go to the next story here. Trump demands full-throated apology from Maine governor on transports flap to settle funding dispute even as universities back down. I don't know if you remember this clip or not, right? There was a clip where he's asking the Maine governor, and she says, this is not going to fare well for you. Rob, I don't know if you remember this one here. He was giving a speech at the back of the room.
Starting point is 00:58:46 That's right, and she was to his right. And he's like, you better get a new job because you're not gonna get reelected. Something like that, right? It was in a different room. It could have been this one, Rob, where he looks to his right. Is this the one?
Starting point is 00:58:59 Yeah, it is, yeah. And they talk about suing each other, and he says, this is about men and women's sports. Is that what it was? Yeah, let me see this. The NCAA has complied immediately, by about men and women's sports. Is that what it was? Yeah, let me see. Yeah Yeah has complied immediately by the way, that's good, but I understand Maine Is the main here the governor of Maine?
Starting point is 00:59:16 Are you not going to comply with it? Well, I'm we are the federal law Well, you better do it You better do it because you're not going to get any federal funding at all if you don't. And by the way, your population, even though it's somewhat liberal, although I did very well there, your population doesn't want men playing in women's sports. So you better, you better comply because otherwise you're not getting any, any federal funding. Every state, good, I'll see you in court. I look forward to that. That should be a real easy one. She said to him, I'll see you in court. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:59:50 So let me read this to you. So President Trump demands, while the state of Maine has apologized for the governor's strong but totally incorrect statement about men playing in women's sports while at the White House governor's conference, we have not heard from the governor herself and she is the one that matters in such cases Therefore we need a full-throated apology from the governor herself and a statement that she will never make such an awful challenge To the federal government ever again before this case can be settled. I'm sure she will be able to do that What Rob can you read the rest because I can't see the rest Therefore we need a full-throated apology from the governor herself and a statement that she will never make such an unlawful
Starting point is 01:00:28 challenge to the federal government again before this case can be settled. I'm sure she will be able to do that quite easily. Thank you for your attention to this matter and in all capitals make America great again three exclamation points. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. So he says University of Maine system network of eight public universities cave this week to Trump's order after the administration blocked the prominent agriculture funds and gave a 10-day ultimatum from the Department of Education risking $250 million. Yearly Trump insisted while the state of Maine has apologized, she has to apologize. Okay, so who have thoughts on this one? Tom, I
Starting point is 01:01:01 think this is you. Go for it. I have thoughts. Here's the thought I have There are eight public universities in Maine Vinny it's time for fun with math. Okay, how much? How many dollars are being sent to Maine? 250 million. Okay, let's say Maine keeps 10 million just as an administration 240 240. What's 240 divided by 8? Tom what the hell are you doing right now? 30 it's 30. So why is the United States federal government? sending 30 million per University to the University of Maine if those businesses it's a business can't sustain themselves
Starting point is 01:01:42 I don't want the federal government first of all this shows that What Trump is doing has teeth and he's getting states to move off dumb policies and off previous positions And just like he said there. Yeah, you'll see it in court. Oh, yeah, that'd be fine That'd be an easy one and guess what? It didn't even go to court. It just went it just went to his pen Okay, 250 out like this. But the greater question for me is like, okay, now the federal government gives the funding back. I'm like, wait a minute, wait a minute. I thought we were shutting down Department of Education and I'd like to see DOJ take a look at why do eight universities in Maine need an average of $30 million each
Starting point is 01:02:23 to operate? If you can operate, charge tuition and operate, but if you need money from the federal government, are you kidding me? You can't make it without that? I think Doge, get on it. You think she will be apologizing? Do I think she will eventually sign a letter of resolution? Yes, I think she will. Will it be everything that Trump wants? No, because she just won't be able to do that. She'll have like a seizure or something. But she's gonna sign something. Why do they all look like that? Every time you hear somebody that hates Trump and they're Democratic and like
Starting point is 01:02:58 look it's like a Hillary Clinton clone and like she wanted to play tough and now she's folded like a freaking lawn chair and I love it. He's right. I don't care what she looks like. I'm not going to pick on her looks. I'm just going to listen to what comes out of her mouth. I'm not picking on her looks.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Which is even uglier than anything you could imagine. No, but what I'm saying, I'm not picking on her looks. What I'm saying is though why is it that they all have that look and that face and that bitterness and that anger and it doesn't help. Like it doesn't help. She backed down. You know what I mean? That's it. It's like your pictures us not on Pierce Morgan. Yeah, exactly right. Yeah, exactly. Thank you My can you go to that clip Rob?
Starting point is 01:03:33 That clip was the best because guys basic tip about life bitterness misery Envy all of those qualities. You know what it does it ages you so Flipping fast it's not even funny started from the beginning Rob let him always a two minutes into oh shit I'll send them up. We get it right. I mean he gets into it right around here when he calls him an idiot Go I know that guy Vinny right there. Is that it go ahead Rob Pre Trump and post Trump look at this. This is Rosie O'Donnell before Trump. Right? Nice. Good. Look what happens, Piers, with Trump derangement syndrome.
Starting point is 01:04:08 All right? Rachel Maddow. Look at how hot Rachel Maddow was. And then look, Trump derangement syndrome. She looks like Stephen Colbert. And then look, Kathy Griffin, someone that I might have hooked up with if I was drunk, they turned her into carrot top. Okay? That's what it does to you people.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Okay? You got to watch your freaking mind. Oh, excuse me. I'm not finished. I'm not finished. And Pierce, in that interview, she's like, I can't... Vinny, you killed that thing.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Well, the guy tried to talk smack, and I was like, bro, you will never say that in front of my face. So what happened with you and Kathy Griffin? Nothing. I said if I was drunk back in the day, but she looks... But you don't drink anymore these days. No, I don't drink, so she doesn't have a chance unless she looks how are you gonna say something or no? No, I first of all, I love what you did there
Starting point is 01:04:49 I Vinny I love what you did there because you're pointing something out because there is something to be pointed out is that the bitterness and Everything aged people you weren't there were two of the UK. You had the carrot top joke at the end Yeah, but the others was legitimate. This is aging and people that present themselves as bitter and angry and upset. That's true and it's real Yeah, it is so if you think about what they were actually arguing about I know we're caught up on her and her looks whatever they were arguing about whether men Should participate in women's sports and it's as you know As we talk about an 80% issue versus a 20% Trump just basically take it the 80 being like, there's two genders, that's it.
Starting point is 01:05:29 This is going on here. You, you keep your nuts out of the women's locker room. And most of the country agrees. But by the way, not to get too inside baseball here callback. Maine is a very weird state. So Maine is, is liberal, but it, it, it has Senate, like, do you know who the two senators are in Maine? Lisa Murkowski. No, that's Alaska, Tom. I'm disappointed that you don't know that it's Susan Collins. Oh yeah. Okay. The other Murkowski. It's
Starting point is 01:05:57 okay. Exactly. Who's that Republican, but she's basically always against Trump. And it has the only independent senator Angus King who basically caucuses with the Democrats and I used to call lead guitar in the ACDC gangster. Did he really? All right, maybe that was a Tom joke, but the point is main 30% of their constituency your favorite word is Democrat another 30 something percent is Republican with 30 percent is independent So this is gonna come down to what the people of Maine Want to see so something tells me that maybe just maybe as much as I agree with Trump on this the governor
Starting point is 01:06:38 Kind of knows her constituency better than Trump does so if he sees her in court, let's see what happens I don't think it's gonna be in court. I think families are just tired. Explain to those families why their school is losing a quarter of a billion dollars because they're sticking up for a dude in a skirt, pole vaulting. Also Maine and Nebraska also do something during presidential elections. They split their districts. It's not winner-take-all and those are things that I know for fact California and Illinois do not like that because there's a big part of Southern Illinois and a big part of
Starting point is 01:07:09 Central California those votes would go away to the other side yeah let's let's let's talk about this the whole conversation with Rosie O'Donnell this is Rosie O'Donnell going full election I said it correctly this time election denier claims Musk stole 2024 for Trump and apparently Musk runs the internet. But go ahead, go for it Rob. What has happened since he's taken office has been terrifying, I think, for the world and definitely for the United States of America. You know a lot of people did vote for him.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Yes. Do you accept their right to do that and their opinion of him? Well, I respect their right to do that and their opinion of them? Well, I respect their right to do that. I question why the first time in American history a president has won every swing state. And his also best friends and his largest donor was a man who owns and runs the Internet. So I would hope that that would be investigated. The whole Internet? And that we would see whether or not it was an anomaly
Starting point is 01:08:06 or something else that happened on election night in America when Kamala Harris was filling up stadiums with people who supported her. And Donald Trump was not able to do that. So it's curious to me. And as an American and a believer in democracy, I would hope that we would be able to look at all of the reasons why this happened in our country.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Okay first of all first of all this is exactly I forgot which governor didn't then somebody in Congress try to make it where Trump derangement syndrome is an actual thing and this is she has one of the Republican in Minnesota who got convicted of something weird. Accused. Accused. My bad. But look right about one thing.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Don't worry about that guy. But look at what it's done to her. And I truly believe this. If you're out there and you have this mental disorder, I think you should be able to sue Tom Clash, class action lawsuit, some lawyer, some firm to get behind it. And you should be able to sue Tom class action lawsuit some lawyer some firm to get behind it and you should be able to Sue CNN and MSNBC look at what is done to people like Rosie O'Donnell, and she's not the only one They're countless one. You guys know them out there. Okay. She's talking about Trump's abusers. Guess what? She's a Democrat Bill Clinton accused of sexual assault and rape, how many times?
Starting point is 01:09:27 Joe Biden, sexual assault, all these alleged, all these women coming forward, on camera sniffing freaking girls all the time. His daughter writes in the diary that her father showered with her at inappropriate ages. She's screaming about women's rights, but this is the party that wants men to compete with women. And she's a lesbian. You would think she'd be the one sticking up for all these women and she's not. And it's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:09:52 And she wants to go to, guess where she is right now? She's in Ireland. Hey Rosie, have you been paying attention? The free speech is gone. They'll arrest you for stuff that you have on your freaking phone. Crime is skyrocketing. The immigration system is completely overrun. And just FYI, guess who's trying to run the country
Starting point is 01:10:10 and be the president? Conor McGregor. So guess what, if he wins, where the hell she's gonna go left? And guess what, I am anti, if you leave this country, Pat, this is Vincent O'Shauna's point of view, you don't get to come back. Your citizenship gets to go somewhere that's dying
Starting point is 01:10:26 and waiting to come into this country. We don't need losers and people that abandon the country. We want freaking patriots. So good, I'm happy. At least she talked the talk and she walked the walk. Don't bring your ass back here. She was right about one thing. Harris was filling stadiums,
Starting point is 01:10:40 but they were high school lacrosse stadiums. Yeah, so there's a difference though. Women's lacrosse. By the way. Yeah, so there's a difference though women's lacrosse by the way that you know There's a there's a guy. We know that wrote a book called choose your enemies wisely. I know him in 2015 2016 was Trump was his first time on stage. We all remember that clip with Trump being asked by Megyn Kelly you've called women dogs slobs, and you see him just kind of like, early Rosie O'Donnell. At that moment, her career officially ended. If she ever had one.
Starting point is 01:11:16 And his career took off. And then even Megyn Kelly, who I could tell blood was coming from her eyes, they had beef for a little bit.. She's pretty much a Trump supporter, but he destroyed Rosie One of the things people love about you is you speak your mind and you don't use a politician's filter However, that is not without its downsides in particular when it comes to women This is first you don't like fat pigs dogs slobs much of my and disgusting your Twitter account only Rosie O'Donnell since that moment think about this think about this has He's the president of the United States! Think about this. Bro. Has she been relevant?
Starting point is 01:12:05 Iron Man stands on stage, puts the fist down, and that's that. Listen, you know why I love this? Because remember, they always were like, what? He would, you guys talk shit to him, he gets to talk shit back. That's how it works. And he has a way bigger platform, and he's got a megaphone, he has a big open. All right, let's go to the next one here, bit. She's a mess. She has TDS. While this is going on, Bill Maher is now apparently going to the White House to visit Trump. And he's getting a lot of
Starting point is 01:12:37 slack for it. When he was on a podcast, Kid Rock was there a couple of weeks ago and said, I want you to come meet Trump. And I'm going you to the White House We're gonna go there and then Kid Rock said a Trump supporter appeared on real time More predicted backlash from left saying and there will be lots of people on the left who will be like How dare you talk to this man? It's like F you I'm not playing this game That you mean girls play. Oh, you know that you can't is this the clip Rob? Oh, yes. Okay play that clip Rob It's better off. I'm saying here a couple of weeks ago, and he said I want you to meet Trump. I He said I'm gonna take you to the White House. So now we're gonna do that That'd be I think and like there will be lots of people on the left will be like how dare you talk to this man?
Starting point is 01:13:19 I'm like, yeah, fuck you, you know, I'm not playing this game that you mean girls play. The Boy Schultz, yes. Where like, oh you know what, you can't sit at my lunch table because I'm just not talking to you. Not talking to you, you lost the election. Who the fuck do you think you have to talk to? You know, it's one thing if you win it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:37 It's another thing if you lose it. You gotta start talking to people. Have to talk to, and I see Gavin Newsom is doing this now. He's changed his tune, he's got a podcast, and the first guest was Charlie Kirk. I thought that was brilliant. And he mentioned me, he said, I'm noticing what Bill does, talks to both sides,
Starting point is 01:13:58 like is left leaning, but not afraid to criticize the people on his team. Like we gotta get more of this going. This has to become the center. This has to become a real center. Right now, it's a few lonely islands that need to become a bigger fucking sandbar. Yeah, no, for real, you're right.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Like, it needs to be normalized. Adam. Yeah, no for real. You're right. Like it needs to be normalized Adam well Bill Maher is absolutely right. I mean, I don't care what he says no matter what he does He's always always always going to be left of center his city could burn down They can chop off all the dicks in California. He's still gonna be like Deal with Gavin. He doesn't care But he's at least willing to have the conversation. Like he'll go to the edge of the line. He'll look over on the other side,
Starting point is 01:14:52 not yet. How old is Bill Maher by the way? He's got to be 70. No? So what you have to give him credit for is that he's at least willing, 69 dude, he's about to be 70 next year. He's at least willing 69 dude. He's about to be 70s next year He's at least willing to have that conversation I mean you had a great conversation with him on the podcast and by conversation I mean he spoke to you for about two hours and you said you asked a couple questions Okay. Well, listen, this is my opinion. You guys are gonna like it because I know where you know you guys The dialogue is good. I know people want to hear it and but here's the thing why Bill Maher still does it right now I
Starting point is 01:15:29 know he's kind of shifting but he called Trump a Nazi Hitler a traitor an idiot criminal threat to democracy what what are they gonna meet about he also said he belongs in prison he made fun of his family he called people that support him stupid and in 2016 he wrote a whole, did a special called whiny little bitch to trash Trump and let's not forget he offered 5 million dollars, do you remember this, to charity if Trump could prove his mother, his dead mother didn't have sex with an orangutan. Okay, let's just put that out there, okay, that's not criticism, that's freaking hate,
Starting point is 01:16:02 okay, and what, to me it's what what is that gonna help Trump seeing Bill Maher in the White House is gonna do what I'm just curious he's not going for reelection he's not to me all it does is hurt the opposite side because let's be real people like Gavin Newsom okay he's not a political opponent he's the enemy okay if he gets into the power what do you guys think he's gonna do? All this podcasting and all this thing, to me, it's making them look like, yeah, the other side is good because it's not about us.
Starting point is 01:16:34 The Republicans are gonna vote for him. Their side is gonna go, you know what? Kevin seems, hold on. Let me ask you a question. You can, but let me finish. We're making him seem like he's a good person because he's speaking in his on a podcast Adam do not let these people fool you once they get in they get into power that guy is a full of shit snake
Starting point is 01:16:52 Okay, you don't this is war you don't hand the enemy the microphone. You don't give them a platform You don't give them the spotlight. You don't make them look good because once they go and don't get a twisted, bro This is positive and negative. It's good and evil Gavin evil gather news you want to make him look good for what look at what he does to the state look at California okay we dodged a bullet with Kamala I don't I'm not a fan of it they're the enemy but why make them look good let me ask you they would destroy the country if they had the chance to do it and it almost happened with Kamala so there's a lot of what you just said that I agree with but you keep calling the Democrats the enemy. They are. They really are. They
Starting point is 01:17:31 really are. I believe it. They're my heart of heart. They're Americans. You can still be evil and be an American. Okay well this is where you lose a little bit of credibility in my estimation. Okay go ahead. I think you should find a different word than enemy. These are Americans. They built they they're elected in America Yeah, okay. Do I agree with Gavin Newsom? No, do I think he's a snake oil salesman? Yes Do I think that that that he would be disaster for America? Yes, but calling someone an enemy like The ayatollahs in Iran there are shouting death to America are an enemy. North Korea that threatens us with missiles, enemy.
Starting point is 01:18:08 Right? China, competitor, I don't even know if they're an enemy per se, maybe. But to call fellow Americans an enemy? I don't think it's doing you any justice. Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam. Tom. You can say that, but you gotta look at both sides because it's happening on both sides. Would you have Gavin Newsom on the podcast?
Starting point is 01:18:25 When Kathy Griffin holds up a severed head and said he's better off dead, what the hell is that? Kathy Griffin is a used up comedian. I'm not worried about her. I'm talking about Congressmen and governors. No, no, no. Let's go to Hillary Clinton and the deplorables. And then let's go a bit.
Starting point is 01:18:38 I don't confirm that either. If there's voter suppression, it should be on the other side. There's been plenty said about that, that the conservatives are the enemies, that the conservatives are backwater, that the conservatives shouldn't even be voting. There's a lot of it that goes on backside. I fully agree that that is a horrible rhetoric. So you can't just attack one side on Vinny and say, oh Vinny, be careful about saying enemy enemy.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Where did this start? Tom, I agree with you. You got your panties in a bunch. No, he's passing on anybody. No, stop it. Stop it. Don't, don't, don't throw the p you. You got your panties in a bun. No, I don't like anybody. Stop it Don't don't Listen ladies a little thing ladies in a bus late. I like like your third your ladies I know that is so sexist and beneath even you do so. I wish that even the Republican there was it
Starting point is 01:19:18 There was a con sorry Tom. I know you're getting a little worked up. It's okay. I like it. This is when Tom shows his strength I like it respect, but there was a congressman who was speaking. Oh, it's fucking Chuck Schumer my apologies. He called The Trump administration the enemy and I'm watching that I go that is disgusting It's disgusting. My point is this We got to stop calling each other the enemy because you disagree with the other side Is it would you sit down with Gavin Newsom if you wanted to come on the absolutely not I don't want to give him Let me you ask me a question. Let me finish so Charlie cook word I that's I say no people you sit down with Gavin Newsom. Absolutely. Okay. Yeah
Starting point is 01:20:00 No, no, because I don't know Vinny. Are you ready for this? Tell me since you got your pennies in a military, would you sit down with Gavin Newsom? There you go again. Can I finish Adam? Tom, would you sit down with Gavin Newsom? Yes, I would. I would sit down with Gavin Newsom. I think he'd be pretty spirited and I'd really challenge him, but would I sit down with him in America where everybody's got free speech and attempt to have a dialogue? Yes, I would. Great. Can I say my thing, Pat? Yeah, go for it. And then I'll transition.
Starting point is 01:20:26 And Adam, okay, when I joined the military, just like him, we did an oath, and it said I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Well, guess what, Adam? When these pieces of, you know what? Go after the president.
Starting point is 01:20:42 They try to take his money. They try to destroy him. They open up the border, and they do all the shit that they did They are the enemy of the people. I don't care what you want to say and I might hurt your feelings I don't give a shit. So when Chuck Schumer Chuck Schumer is one of them They want to destroy the country so when he calls when he calls people within the Trump administration RFK, he had said- Prove, give me the example of how, yeah, he's full of shit. When he calls them the enemy,
Starting point is 01:21:09 do you think he's wrong in doing that? No, Adam, he could say whatever he want. Show me the receipts. We have the receipts of what the hell the Democrats have been doing for ages. Adam, just take- So only you're right and they're wrong. No, no, no, I did not say, I just said,
Starting point is 01:21:22 no, you're putting words in my mouth. Adam, there's evil Republicans There's evil Democrats But what the Democratic Party did for this past four years if you can't tell me that that was evil With all the shit that they're doing with letting in all the kids going missing open border drugs poisoning Americans Going after the president and then the guy gets shot in the head because you're calling him fucking Hitler. Yeah, they're the enemy. They're the enemy period. And the story what I'm saying is we need to stop calling fellow Americans the enemy. I'm not Adam. I'm not. Then stop acting like an enemy and I won't call you the enemy. Well, if a dog is acting like a dog, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:21:58 that's the dog. Vinny, I love you. Just because you're yelling loud doesn't mean you're right. I'm not making any point. Well, I'm to give you the point right now, my friend. Go ahead, buddy. Charlie Kirk sat down with Gavin Newsom. Your boss, your hero, your idol, PBD said he would sit down with Gavin Newsom. Okay, and I wouldn't. You said you were a man. I'm a man.
Starting point is 01:22:17 So maybe you're being a little emotional. No, I'm not, Adam. And angry. What is the podcast? Not Pat. I'm talking about Gavin Newsom's podcast is trying to make him look good. He's not good He's a piece of shit. Okay, so let's let's let's go through this or my opinion on this year And this is why this works. We went to a fight this weekend
Starting point is 01:22:36 we were with John Jones and a Few Syrian brothers had this 30 bucks and it was a very good experience and guys come up and say you guys actually get along We actually get along man. It seems like see like you guys some of you hate not No, we actually get along but let me tell you this about this thing here Go and think about it from the lens of Trump. Okay Bill Maher goes to the White House to see Trump, You know who did that in 2017, 2018? Steve Harvey. Remember when Steve Harvey went to the White House?
Starting point is 01:23:09 And everybody was asking him, I cannot believe you went to the White House and da da da da da. I got an invitation from the President, Trump going to the White House, okay, Steve Harvey. Tim Cook, hey, how could you talk to President Trump and da da da da da? Well, he picks up my calls when I call him.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Really, that's Steve Harvey right there. When he met with, and by the way, this is a while back when they met, what year is this when they met? 2017, 18, I don't know when it was. January of 2017. Still got that mustache. That's January 2017, you know what that is?
Starting point is 01:23:42 That is like, that just happened. Minutes after inauguration. So he's there. By the way, that was probably the most controversial time to go to the White House. Harvey went. Bill Maher goes to the White House. Guess who wins if Bill Maher goes to the White House?
Starting point is 01:23:56 Bill Maher or Trump? Trump wins, 100%. Trump wins 100% because he's saying, you're coming to me. You're coming to my territory. You're coming to see me. You're coming to see me you're coming to look at me and you know how Trump is wired Trump is wired in my opinion Trump is wired in a way that I believe he believes He can woo you and he can persuade you and he can Challenge you and he can call you out on your BS and he can get you to say, I kind of like this guy, okay? I kind of like that. I hate to say it, but I kind of like this guy.
Starting point is 01:24:29 And then they leave and they do whatever they want to do. Bill is at a point right now that he's about to do something he never thought he would do. But here's the kicker of what's about to happen. Newsom. Newsom has Charlie Kirk on. Newsom has Steve Bannon on. Right? Newsom has all these guys on, okay? And I said this yesterday on Hannity, CNN comes out and what do they do of his podcast? Rob, do you have the clip of what CNN does of his podcast? They fact check them.
Starting point is 01:24:54 Yeah, so they fact check them. Watch this here. Go to it. Okay, this is CNN. CNN's number one candidate for the left a few years ago, not even a few years ago, a year ago would probably be Newsom. But watch this, go for it, play this clip. By the way, not one person ever in my office has ever used the word Latinx. So could we finally put that to bed, we agree? Yeah, what the,
Starting point is 01:25:15 but Rob, you can't see it. No more Latinx everybody. Well, I just didn't even know where it came from. I'm like, what are people talking about? But there was a person who used Latinx. It was actually a really important person. It was him, right? Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:25:26 And look, these aren't minor shifts. These are progressive issues that Gavin Newsom used to champion until fairly recently. And now he's not just walking away from them. He's sort of acting like they were never legitimate with that clip talking about Latinx in the first place. But let's take Latinx.
Starting point is 01:25:43 We did find somebody who used it repeatedly in his office. Let's take a listen to this. I hope we can really paint a picture in terms of our consciousness of how impactful this has been on the Latin X community, Latin X community, the Latin X and black communities. You've got politicians that are banning not assault rifles, but the word Latinx. They're not even serious Okay, so that's CNN. I Said this to Henner Lee last night. I said the same way Five years whatever the timeline was four years ago every day We had to listen to one guy Andrew Andrew Cuomo, when he would do his, you know,
Starting point is 01:26:26 whatever press conference he did from New York. And the Democrats would say, look how presidential he is. Look how presidential he is, look how presidential he is. And then Andrew Cuomo decided to stand up to Pelosi and Schumer and not do what they expected him to do. What happened overnight? Oh, immediately. Ate him alive. They slapped him around, they expected him to do. What happened overnight? Oh, immediately. Ate him alive.
Starting point is 01:26:46 They slapped him around, they pushed him out, and he was out, out, and it wasn't pretty. It was nasty, is what they did to him, right? Wait for it. If Newsome continues to have the likes of Bannon, the likes of Charlie, say he invites DeSantis, he continues to have these types of people on his podcast It's a matter of time 30 60 90 120 days that the Democrats
Starting point is 01:27:13 Drop something real nasty about Newsome to the public you don't have to worry about it being Republicans. You don't have to worry about being a Fox Democrats will eat their own and they don't like the fact that Newsom is sitting there realizing you best go to the center and all these BS ideas that you had. Guess what? No one was interested. Now whether that's going to win in America right now or not, who knows? And I agree with you on this as well, and here's where I fully agree with Vinny.
Starting point is 01:27:42 Say he plays center right now. Say he plays like he is listening to the other side right now, which he's doing. The moment he gets in, who needs to give him the money the moment he gets in? Does he need money or does he have his own money? No, he needs money. He needs money. Whoever gives him the money, he has to go back and do whatever those guys ask him to do that gave him the money. And that time is coming soon, when that does take place. So he'll go in as a center and then all of a sudden whoa here
Starting point is 01:28:08 We go I'm going to the left what happened You went in as a center, and then I'm going you guys you elected me now I'm gonna go back to the policies that I had something Kamala try to do Kamala try to be well. No I never said that about medic. I never said that about this no That's actually not my position my position is is actually this, this, and that. You're going to see how they're going to attack this guy. By the way, while we're talking about this, the Dems are trying to find out who is the face of the party.
Starting point is 01:28:34 In Denver, Colorado, Rob, if you wanna pull this up, Bernie Sanders has an event with AOC. And when you look at this event with AOC, if you can pull this up and play the clip, they say 34,000 people show up to this event. So watch this clip. They say 34,000 people showed up to this event. Okay, and by the way, whatever the number is,
Starting point is 01:28:57 that's still a strong audience if you look at that, right? That's a strong audience right there that they have to show up to Bernie and AOC's event. But here's a challenge with this. According to Zero Hedge Rob, if you can go to Zero Hedge with what Mario Nafal posted, I think it's in the exchange. If you don't have it, I can send it to you. I think you do have it.
Starting point is 01:29:14 But I'll text it to you as well. In the exchange, I'm sorry, in Zero Hedge's, yeah, right there. So Massive Rally, AOC, right it turns out it wasn't as grassroots as advertised. Look at this number here. Despite claims of 34,000, GPS data analysis reveals the real number was closer to 20,000, still big but not record breaking because they measured all the cell phones. More revealing, a whopping 84% of those devices had shown up to nine other protests or more, including Antifa, BLM events, pro-Hamas, pro-Palestinian demonstrators, and Kamala Harris campaign stop.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Over 30% have attended by 20 or more data analysts as the crowd was anything but organic. The majority were tied to activist networks like Disruption Projects, Indivisible, Democratic Socialist America, Rise and Resist, and Troublemakers, all reportedly funded by ActBlue, and some receiving backing via USAID, Optics Over Authenticity, the Playbook hasn't changed, just the target. So you can see this and see the fact that there's a fight going on and everyone's trying to be the face of the Democratic Party. I don't know if they're going to allow Newsom to be it and I don't think if they're going to allow AOC or Bernie to be it.
Starting point is 01:30:31 I don't think they're going to allow either one of them. Democratic Party believes in arranged marriage. They don't believe when you get to marry whoever you want to marry. The Democrats believe in you marry who we tell you're going to marry. They do this practice in some marriages in India, they do this in some Middle Eastern countries. The Democratic establishment party is fully in arranged marriage. They'll let you know if AOC can be your wife.
Starting point is 01:30:55 They'll let you know if Newsom can be your husband. Until then, they'll let you know whenever they're ready and it may not be those two guys. So yeah, I think Newsom's gonna do his part. There's a big fight right now to see who's gonna be a part of this Tom your thoughts when you see AOC and Bernie Doing what they're doing to trying to kind of win the votes of Democrats right now Well, first of all, you've got that you're trying to find the face of the party And so you send out the small market share fringe far left
Starting point is 01:31:21 That just doesn't seem to me like what you'd be sending out. It's about to be baseball season. You got to send out the American apple pie neutral almost centrist and I think this is ridiculous and of the protesters, boy we got the executive platinum of protesters. They've been everywhere. They've been collecting up all those miles and everything. This is the executive platinum protesters club. Look at that and so you send them out. So I think this is a real tin ear. And it shows you that somewhere inside the DNC, they really believe their absolute progressive side, their fringe is something that will get traction. And I really just, I believe they sent it out to just put
Starting point is 01:32:01 anger on the street. They send it out to get angry, and that's even one of the things that AOC was saying. If you're really angry, you're with us. Show us you're angry, show us you're angry. And so it was a high emotion. So they pack the ballot box with a bunch of fake protesters. They tell everybody, get really angry, show the emotion, because that's all the visual clips that they want. But meanwhile, the party, I't think this the party really wants
Starting point is 01:32:28 us but they sent it out so it was kind of confusing to me I think it was like an emotion they want the clips and what the visual path and they want the emotion out there they want to show some anger and people are upset so do you think do you think the Democratic Party will allow AOC or Newsom to be the face of the party AOC I do not think they will allow herOC or Newsom to be the face of the party? AOC, I do not think they will allow her, but they may end up with her because female, articulate, attractive, Hispanic. I mean, there's a lot of boxes that she, quote, checks there.
Starting point is 01:33:00 And then, you know, it's really funny is Newsom is trying to be a capitalist. He's out there being a capitalist. I'm the product, I want you to buy me, and I want market share. That's capitalism. He does not want the socialist arranged marriage, and he's actually staying far from it. And by the way, this has been his MO, and I don't think, do I think they will ultimately
Starting point is 01:33:21 select him as the face of the party? Pat, I think they may end up in that default position. But remember, he's refused to fly with the party for three years. Who put himself out there and had a debate with DeSantis separately? That wasn't the DNC. That wasn't sanctioned by the DNC. They were like, will you stay out of the way, please? What the hell are you doing?
Starting point is 01:33:42 We're trying to figure out what we're going to do with Biden. And yet he was out there kind of inserting himself out there. That wasn't DNC, that was Gavin Newsom. I think they may end up with him. Yeah, well, if you think about it, well, Tom, there's one correction. You said she's articulate. She's definitely not articulate.
Starting point is 01:33:58 She's probably one of. I think her and Jasmine Crockett are up there for the actual dumbest, and I actually want, the moment she sits in an actual debate, there was one clip that I saw where this lady's asking her questions and she was completely lost mind you this is the same person that said that we're gonna be sure she can deliver a line she's not a Rhodes scholar yeah bingo and the fact that she's like okay so the perception is wow that was really wonderful yeah oh yeah a hundred percent but she's she's by the way didn't she say that the world's gonna's like, okay, so the perception is, wow, that was really wonderful. Yeah. Oh, yeah. 100%. But she's she's, but didn't she say that the world's going to end in a couple
Starting point is 01:34:29 years? So I don't even know why she would even wanted to run. She thinks we're going to end. But Gavin Newsom, I'm telling you right now, he's a slick. Do you remember when Biden was in guys? And he was, Biden was on vacation, weird because he was on vacation more than any other president, mentally and physically. He's walking on the White House lawn, remember, no shirt, I mean no tie. He was walking out there. He's injecting himself and I'm telling you right now, when it gets down to crunch time and they have nobody, not Bernie Sanders with his balloon haircut and her, they're going to have, Tom, you nailed it.
Starting point is 01:34:58 He's going to be the default because people are going to be used to him. He was on the White House lawn. He was at the debates talking with the Santas. Oh, he has a podcast and he's talking to everybody. We kind of like him. They're not going to go back and look at these Latin X clips. They're going to be like, Oh, you know what? Gavin's going to fight. Gavin's for us. And I think that he's going to be the default guy unless somebody comes out of the woodwork. That's a surprise. Adam. So we're just real quick on AOC because we're talking about AOC right now. Rob, I sent you a little some data. She, whether we like it or not, is the most viable candidate that the Democrats have right
Starting point is 01:35:31 now. They did this poll on CNN, which Democratic leader best reflects the party's values. She had a whopping 10% in first place. Kamala had nine, Bernie had eight. Bernie, Newsom wasn't on this list Ironically enough. This is what date this is recently. This was recently March 6 through 9 Yeah, so we'll see where Gavin Newsom ends up, but here's my prediction. She's gonna make a number one. She's a representative She's not even a senator. She's not a governor. When's the last time a representative?
Starting point is 01:36:03 Did anything like became a president? I don't know and'm gonna mad when he was asked to find that out for me So we'll see where she goes we'll see where she if she tries to take Chuck Schumer's Senate seat because he's getting a lot of heat right now after he went through the Continuing resolution and pass the budget, but here's my prediction on AOC You know four percent as Jasmine Crockett Wow Barack it's over fall and grace prediction on AOC. Barack Obama is only at 4% same as Jasmine Crockett. Wow. Barack, it's over. Fall from grace. But you know we talked about marketing, we talked about what Trump says, you know, build the wall, drain the swamp, lock her up, da da da. She had
Starting point is 01:36:37 a very viral slogan that she wore. She made a sweater for this. Yeah, that was right. Tax the rich, and then eat the rich. billionaires shouldn't exist. So let's see what happens when she runs a presidential campaign. There it is tax the rich reward on her dress. How much is that dress? Okay, let's see what happens when this chick needs to raise a billion dollars. Yeah, let's see if what she's gonna do to get that money. My guess is she's going to go to all the rich people, all the lobbyists. Remember when Chris Cromwell said, look up there, look up there. You know, the Democratic Party has a major problem.
Starting point is 01:37:18 You saw it. Bernie Sanders was like, we got to take down the billionaires. And then please welcome to to stage billionaire governor JB Pritzker. It's like what just happened? I made a mistake. He can pick on one because I am one. That's the issue is that when you're so against the wealthy, when you're so against the rich, when you want to tax the rich, but then you need the money. Yeah, weird. You're gonna have what's called cognitive dissonance. And that's a problem. You make it very good. You made a very good point. And thanks, Tom. I'm not adding on here. I'm just gonna let it go. But when you when you go, the first thing
Starting point is 01:37:53 happens to a congressman, when they become a senator, is they change your view on campaign finance reform bingo, because they need billionaire dollars now. Can you cut that for Adam and put it at pin it at the top? like you make a great point that happens every show Go to this next story here. Let's go to this next story here. Wait. That story is Snow White Snow White Bombs breaks records for the lowest live-action remake Opening ever let me say that again ever
Starting point is 01:38:22 remake opening ever. Let me say that again. Ever. Okay? This is Snow White. And for those of you that have daughters or ladies that are listening to this, remember the first time you watched Snow White? The story, the love story, what happens to it. Snow White star Rachel Zegler opened to a dismal $43 million, snagging the title of
Starting point is 01:38:42 the lowest debut weekend for any Disney live-action remake beating 2019's Dumbo at $46 million. They beat Dumbo. Shame on you, but it's for the worst ever. The article notes this does not count for the 29-year-old live-action remake of 101 Dalmatians, which is not part of the current cycle. Nevertheless, the 1996 remake movie still opened at $33.5 million. Today's dollars, that would be $68 million overseas.
Starting point is 01:39:06 And far as projections, we're up at $100 million, $87 million globally, falling short of $270 million budget before promotion, leaving Disney facing a brutal, brutal loss. Entertainment Media offered excuses with Penske Entertainment Media Monopoly, claiming there's another thing when it comes to Snow White, and it has nothing to do with controversy rather her age that being in Disney years 88 years suggesting older tales like maleficent Cinderella 101 Dalmatians with darker colder classical themes don't draw modern female audiences article counters okay but then why did the 2015 live action remake of 65-year-old Cinderella 1950 open to $68 million domestic and $542 million global gross?
Starting point is 01:39:55 Pretty scary thought here. Rob, can you play the clip and tell me, folks, if you watch this, tell me if this is attractive to you. Tell me if this is attractive to you. Does this, imagine you invested in Tore being the face of the movie and she's the main character and she's trying to promote the movie. Would this make you want to go watch the movie when she's starring in it and she's the main character? Go ahead, Rob. Play the clip. And to everyone who hates when I win, the winged victory came to the Louvre in pieces and people still line up to see her.
Starting point is 01:40:31 And I can only hope that despite my flaws and despite my cracks and my breaks and there are many of them, she's a good actress, that at every premiere and everything I do, people will wait in line to see. Wow. The ego on this girl is ridiculous. Wow. And Rob, do you have another clip of what she did the first time? Is this the one? Yes, because if you remember, this movie was delayed. And then at one point they took, because they couldn't have dwarves. Do you guys remember? Yeah, because Peter Dinklage and all them were talking crap. So originally they took a picture of what the dwarves were supposed to look like.
Starting point is 01:41:10 I can find it, but it was an array. It was the DEI of dwarves. Yep. But they actually ended up that was too controversial. They had to re shoot the film and use CGI dwarves instead of actual. And they were those dwarves who never use. No, then they upset the dwarves that weren't used in the film because the dwarves Were upset that it was their acting career that they got pulled out of the movie. That's so you cannot make Rob
Starting point is 01:41:31 I just know why in the seven doors didn't have dwarves. Let's see the dwarves picture first It looks like the dwarf fraternity from like the University of Oregon Dwarf fraternity from like the University of Oregon After a drinking binge you see this Yeah, these are the ones that they have to replace completely and do CGI instead. There you go. Those guys didn't make it No, that guy's 6'2". So what do they replace these guys with? That's sleepy, that's drunken, that's cokehead, that's holly, that's blackie. But what do they replace it with Rob? With a snow white CGI. Animated. I can I see it? Yes
Starting point is 01:42:09 What are images? Your joke it looks like Santa's helpers and a fat Santa this movie was delayed multiple times This was supposed to come out in 2024. They just released it and here she is. This is Rachel Ziegler This is her on the red carpet. This is in 2023 promoting the film and talking about why it's weird promoting the film, demoting. I mean, you know, the original cartoon came out in 1937 and very evidently. So there's a big focus on her love story with a guy who literally stocks her weird, weird. So we didn't do that this time. So no prints or a different kind love story with a guy who literally stalks her. Weird. Weird.
Starting point is 01:42:45 Super weird. So we didn't do that this time. So no prints or a different kind of prints? We have a different approach to what I'm sure a lot of people will assume is a love story just because like we cast a guy in the movie, Andrew Burnup. Great dude. One of those things that I think everyone's going to have their assumptions about what it's actually going to be but
Starting point is 01:43:07 It's really not about the love story at all Which is really really wonderful and whether or not she finds love along the way is anybody's guess until 2024 All of Andrew scenes could get cut who knows it's Hollywood, baby What so yeah, my agent would have punched me in the face if I was up there saying some stupid What an investment all like $300 million, it's snow, they should have just called it snow, slightly tanned. That was the budget before promotion was 270. The promotion budget I just read was 230.
Starting point is 01:43:37 So half a billion. Correct. Half a billion. Approximately half a billion in total. The review, by the way, 43% of Rotten Tomatoes were just sending this. 1.9 out of 10 on IMDB and those, by the way, they weren't dwarves, they were called bandits. So the Snow White doesn't like, the amount of like, if it ain't broken, don't fix it. Break it. Leave it the fuck alone. If it ain't broke, break it. Like leave these stories alone.
Starting point is 01:44:07 If she, by the way, if she never opened her mouth and she didn't do all this nonsense, people would have gone and watched the movie. They would have made their money, but then people would have been disappointed after the math. Like why are you talking? Like don't talk. I have a quick question. You and Adam know entertainers. You know a lot of people. Adam's connected Miami. There's a lot of people down here. Yeah. You know, after careers, people coming people. Adams Connected Miami, there's a lot of people down here. After careers, people coming up in careers. He knows one of the most prominent comedians and cast members, SNL.
Starting point is 01:44:32 So let's play a game called hubris and handlers. So the handlers are the agents. And what do the agents tell them? You know what? You're great, man. They're going to come see you. They're going to see you. You got to look your I got I got you
Starting point is 01:44:45 What you're money baby? I got a lot you have lunch with Irving and you're gonna sit with Irving and I'm gonna sit with Irving and they you are The star you are the product. They're gonna put you in this. Yes. You are perfect for this role Yes, this that the way it happens hundred percent. Okay, I'm not exaggerating and the guy talks like that too. Yes I'm Vinny. This is a showtime special. This is Showtime special for comedy. They need a fourth guy right in there. I think you're it. I think it is. You're going to make it. And so the handlers do this to death. And then the hubris is they believe it. And then when they're unleashed on the red carpet, that's what you get. This is the woman that's stepping down from Lucas films. Oh, when did this happen? Kathleen Kennedy announced at the end of 2025 she's leaving and she's the reason behind a lot of these DEI. This is the one. The movies
Starting point is 01:45:30 and everything. So we're going to see what's going to happen here. Adam. I'm so disappointed in Disney and I'm not saying this as a movie goer. I'm not saying this as someone who's really against DEI. I'm saying this as a stock owner in. I'm not saying this as someone who's really against DEI. I'm saying this as a stock owner in the company of Disney. You brought it. I brought it to show it. I didn't want to send Rob a picture because I don't want to get a pow pow. But here is my grandma when I was born, I guess, bought me 10 shares of Disney. Okay. Oh, is this your annual vote? This is my annual vote. Oh wow. So I get to vote as a shareholder of Disney. My stock has plateaued over the last 10 years. Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:14 The stock in 2015 was about a hundred bucks in 2025. It's still a hundred bucks for the last 10 years. Disney, you ain't done shit. I'm trying to save that money. I'm trying to invest that money. I'm trying to grow that money. Don stock price has done nothing in 10 years. So here are the names of the people that are telling me, look, Peabody, they're saying, we recommend you vote for recommend all these names. Mary Barra fired. Amy Chang fired. Jeremy Darrow fired. Carolyn Everton fired. Michael Froman fired. Robert Iger. How do we know that name? Bob Iger is that his brother wrote his, no, that's him. That's him. Robert Bobby. He was, he was, we wrote his, he read his book right
Starting point is 01:46:59 of a lifetime. I didn't read it. Yeah. Well you can can't read but what we read it as a company potato with all these guys Calvin McDonald, nobody knows these in people But they're asking for their jobs back. Yeah in ten years you guys have met No money for shareholders in the company. You gots to go Adam. We ran out of toilet paper. I might be using Sucks like a vacuum cleaner. But this movie is the antithesis of what's going on with this. Great word. And by the way, Mary Barra, who's on the board on that list there, you know what she's famous for? Tell me she's she's at General Motors and she crashed Cadillac into a tree. So it's
Starting point is 01:47:52 So hey, you're destroying the auto industry. Perfect. Don't know anything about media. No, that's perfect Neither do we join the board. Yeah, good job. Yeah, but they also want us to vote for Approving more executive compensation you fired but here's the thing with this movie It is all the crap that we've learned about in the last four years since Wokeness and Cancel Culture took over. It's all the greatest hits in one movie. It's DEI. They can't even get dwarves in the movie because they're DEI dwarfs. Ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:48:20 It's the Wokeness. It's the feminism. It's the toxic masculinity. It's the wokeness. It's the feminism. It's the toxic masculinity. It's the gaze for Gaza Fighting Rachel Ziegler, who's Colombian is fighting with the Israeli Gal Gadot about what's going on Gal Gadot. Here's another thing. She's from Israel. She served her country Rachel Zegler is a freaking Colombian chick born in America You don't know nothing about the Middle East but she feels like she could argue on the same wavelength
Starting point is 01:48:47 She was one of the most beautiful women in the world a few years ago still hot she's still got it going on So what happened at the Oscars when they were presented awards together Rob it got very ugly It is together Rachel's eggler they were Something happened. There's a funny line in the movie. They have barely done any interviews together. They can't They have that clip rap of them at the I'm gonna look for it right now If you find the funny if you watch the trailer This is they did this before the all this beef the first line in the trailers snow white is like Can we just be nice and the queen the evil queen goes? I don't remember you being so opinionated
Starting point is 01:49:22 and the Queen, the Evil Queen goes, I don't remember you being so opinionated. That is literally in the movie. And it just goes to show that's so apropos for what's happening right now. Can we show this? Rob? Show this right here. How long is it, Rob? 30, 25 seconds.
Starting point is 01:49:37 Can we show it? Can we show it? If I talk over it a little bit? Do they have any background music or anything that we can't? No. I'm not sure. I've not been able to screen the clip. Let's see this here. Go for it. Visual effects push the boundaries of what we see on screen. Their work makes the impossible seem possible. Is that the dwarf right there? With breathtaking ambition, they create magic that wraps its
Starting point is 01:50:01 arms around our wildest imagination. Here are the nominees for best visual effects. They look like they hate each other up there. I don't know if I could tell that. I can just tell that she. There's worse stuff, they won't do press together. There's apparently beef right there. But here's the biggest thing.
Starting point is 01:50:18 And it's, you know, I'm bringing all this together right now. Bill Maher, this movie, Disney. Do you remember the graph? We love our graphs of Bill Maher saying how everybody is just gay now. Right? One out of four. Boomers, you know, Gen X, Rob. Oh yeah, he went generation by generation. We're doubling every generation by 2050. In this movie, who was supposed to be the hero in Snow White? The original story, the original adaptation. It was the prince, the quote unquote stalker, who kisses her and wakes her up and saves her life. He's a stalker.
Starting point is 01:50:52 In this movie, she's like, oh my God, he's like a stalker. Like, why is he like, so- He's been arrested. And I don't know if you're looking for a love story. You're not going to get that. We're doing it different. She's telling you, don't come to Snow White. And meanwhile- Is she your type Adam? Gal Gadot 100% no no I'm talking about no no no no Midget I'm not in the midget, but what I'll say is this little person or dwarf
Starting point is 01:51:15 Adam just got canceled what if she's got three rides on uber all five-star oh 3000 right I mean it sign me up She's beautiful. Let's not you. But look how beautiful you go from like unattractive because of the shit that comes out of your mouth. I'm gonna move on this one. Women already give you enough headaches now they're liberal and woke. You don't need this in your life. Alright, matter of fact, let me transition into the next door. You're transitioning now? What are we? Yes, we are. You're transitioning? What are you gonna say? Would you take your kids to go see Snow White? Your girls? No. It's supposed to be a kids movie and all this drama zone I asked my question the other day movies or ice cream and all of
Starting point is 01:51:51 Brooklyn no hesitation period ice cream Tico movies mommy ice cream and Papa was ice cream about Senna Senna was not allowed to come oh wow Dylan what happened something deep tough one order order skirmish that's right was not allowed to come. Oh, pow pow? Or in Dylan. What happened? Something happened. Something deep. We'll talk about that later. It's a tough one. Border skirmish. That's right.
Starting point is 01:52:10 All right. So let's go through this here. And this is a perfect transition. Wall Street Journal story. American women are giving up on marriage. Damn it. That's not good for me. This is not good.
Starting point is 01:52:19 Especially if you want one. Let's read this story. Ladies, if you haven't given up on marriage your single your You know take care of yourself, and you're into good-looking young funny Assyrian men Please Manek Vinny Vincent Oshana on Manek. That's his QR code and If you have a friend maybe you're married if you have a friend, maybe you're married
Starting point is 01:52:45 and you have a girl that you wanna introduce Vinny to, please Manek Vinny. Now, ladies, if you're young, barely out of college, bad relationship with your father. Can't speak good English. Manek to Adam, okay? It's a very different community we got. But you guys.
Starting point is 01:53:03 Also fellas, I'm going to go. As a gay Jew. Let got no, but you guys also fellas As a gay Jew American women American women are giving up on marriage Andre Vortlasek 29 year old boss Andrea. I'm sorry Andre Andrea Old Boston a kid 29 year old Boston accountant said I'm financially self-sufficient enough to do with things myself Enough to do these things myself. What are these things? Opening to house hunts solo and consider kids alone admitting I don't want to sit here and say I'm 100% happy
Starting point is 01:53:37 But I feel happier just accepting my reality Daniel Cox of the American Enterprise Accepting my reality Daniel Cox of the American Enterprise Institute The numbers aren't netting out with more women than men are attending college buying houses and focusing on their friendships and career over dating and marriage as 51.4 percent of women 18 to 40 were single in 2023 damn Did you guys pay attention Vinny and Adam you guys pay attention to this part? of women 18 to 40 were single in 2023, damn. Guys, pay attention, Vinnie and Adam, you guys pay attention to this part.
Starting point is 01:54:09 51.4% of women ages 18 to 40 were single in 2023. So 51.4% right there in 2023, just 23 years ago was only 41.8%. Damn. Exactly. It went from 41.8% to 51.4%, 18-40% single, survey show, shifting attitudes, with a 2024 AEI poll finding over half of single women said they believed they were happier than their married counterparts versus just over a third of surveyed single men.
Starting point is 01:54:45 A 2022 Pew survey revealing only 34% of single women were looking for romance compared to 54% of single men. That's not a good match up. Vinny, your thoughts on this since you did a lot of research on this. What do you want to say about the story? I don't know. I think just with, especially when you have girls like Rachel Ziegler, that their attitude is guys pursuing girls,
Starting point is 01:55:09 it's stalker mentality. And I just think, I just, I don't know, just me as a single guy right now, I mean, I have, Pat, I went from military to no birds and the bees talk with my dad, never. I don't know if you, did your dad ever give you the talk? Okay, yeah. So I went from military, not knowing anything.
Starting point is 01:55:25 He would just call me and leave a message in the army and he would say, Tiko, Muteh get vaget, hemisha condom inuk av. Hemisha. Okay? He would send me condoms as gifts when I was in the army. Seriously. 100%. We all know how Vinny feels about that.
Starting point is 01:55:41 My dad would send me boxes of condom for when I was in the army. I love Gabriel Oh my god, that's a father even the conversation my dad not mentioned it once So then I went from not knowing to military You know about that and then to Hollywood and then it just ruined everything But I think just a sentiment now the I think it's a mind shift and it's a culture shift Because at the end of the day, you're made to put here to do what? Multiply and procreate and do it.
Starting point is 01:56:12 I mean, listen, I'm in line and I'm just, you know, I'm biding my time. I'm praying to God it's gonna happen. I'd love to hear Tom's opinion and then I can maybe back clean up here. Well, first of all, Adam's gonna clean up, guys. He's well first of all Adam's gonna clean up guys Adam would be ninth place like what do you call like a pitchers? Unfortunately Unfortunately numbers are real starting about Starting with the number of women that are in college versus men that are in college there are shifts that are happening all over the place and
Starting point is 01:56:47 and You know there's we could do a case study on this but there has been the emergence of The and it's over. I think it's 18 years because that goes back to 07 is the emergence of the hookup culture Yeah and so the hookup culture and so the hookup culture and temporary relationships the changing demographic of who's in college? women But there are other so all that's very real. I'm not gonna say that's not real, but there are other stats out there that talk about
Starting point is 01:57:17 Satisfaction having children with a married partner they talk about that the truth that there is happiness and satisfaction Is it challenging? Yes. They'll drive you nuts some weekends? Yes. But is there an ultimate joy in knowing that you're building citizens of the future and you're building this person of quality? And the answer is yes. And so for every article that talks about one side of it, there's a lot of other data that talks about the other side. But unfortunately, a lot of things they're talking about are very real. and today's single people are having greater challenges than ever before
Starting point is 01:57:49 Finding people that think and feel the same way they do that they feel that they could trust Trust and build a big relationship with Adam clean up come on clean up and I'll seven hit it so Chelsea Handler It's all your fault American women are giving up on marriage. You know when Chelsea Handler, it's all your fault. American women are giving up on marriage. You know, when Chelsea Handler my ex, you know, when we had that internet beef three years ago, it's because I was citing a report from Morgan Stanley called the she economy, not the economy, but the she economy and basically saying by 2025, which the year we're in now, they anticipate that 45% of working women
Starting point is 01:58:28 between 18 and 40 will be childless, no married, no kids. Well, the report was wrong because they said 45%. Tom, you're a numbers guy. What number is it now? 41.8, according to the... No, that's what it was in 2000, Tom. Not sure why I called on you. 51.4. 51.4, according to the no, that's what it was in 2000 Tom. Not sure why I called on 51.4 According to the American Enterprise Institute. Thank you, Tom. You had one job and you got the stat wrong. I love you. Anyway, however, 51% of women have nothing going on. No marriage, no kids, no nothing. That's up literally 10% since 2000. So Chelsea Handler, you might want this No kid all drugs all Sex toy thing got going on in your life
Starting point is 01:59:10 And that's great because you're famous and you're a feminist and you got millions in the bank But my question is this for the 38 year old woman who's making 60 grand a year Working as whatever job for the 34 year old woman Who's basically focused on her job and not a family for the 34 year old woman who's basically focused on her job and not a family for the 44 year old woman who's now considering having a baby with herself did the modern feminism work out for you so I would argue that Chelsea Handler has been the poster child for what is wrong in America for focusing on yourself rather than a family, a woman has one
Starting point is 01:59:47 job that she can do better than a man. Only one. Birthing? And that's birthing. It's not working, it's not fighting, it's not hustling, it ain't rebounding what's her face in the WNBA that's going on strike. It is birthing. Angel Reese. So there's been this conflation of that men are women and women are men. There's no difference. Men and women are not equal. Why? Because equal means the same. We're not the same. You have this magical, amazing ability to have children and give birth. And you're giving it all up to do what? Make a couple extra bucks. And then here's the funniest thing is they say things like, you know, I don't want no man telling me what to do. Listen, bitch, you don't want your husband telling you what to do, but you'll have a random boss telling
Starting point is 02:00:35 you what to do. So it doesn't make any sense to me. The happiest in my opinion that women were was when they were focusing on family, having kids, they didn't have to stress about work. I'm not saying that they shouldn't work, but prioritize kids and family. Vinny's 58 years old. He could still impregnate a woman today. You go meet a 58 year old woman. She ain't doing nothing. Honestly, with the way you take, I'm surprised you're single not married So I'm very surprised. I have a newsflash polymarket Very we're not gonna play this game because I was married ten years ago to a woman
Starting point is 02:01:15 Very lovely girl to a woman. Okay, to a woman. That's right. Tom. You've been with one in your life You understand and she wasn't a wife She wanted to get married, but she wasn't willing to be a wife So I sent her back out to to the pastured heard figured out and now here's the biggest problem We can make fun of us all these want there's a lot of hoes out there. There's a lot of girlfriends out there There's a lot of girls that you would date. There's not a lot of good wives out there You know, we're talking about inflation in America today. Are you familiar with another term called hoflation?
Starting point is 02:01:48 Familiar with this term, Vinny? I just heard it right now. The price you pay for an average wife, for a woman who used to be a wife, is much greater than it has ever been. The concept of men having to work 20 times harder than their grandfathers for women that are 20% worse than their grandmothers. That's Urban Dictionary. But now you're starting to see things like, do you know who, this is a weird thing we were talking about, I was actually talking about it with Andrew
Starting point is 02:02:16 Tate. Do you know who Riley Reid is? No. Okay, she's a famous porn star. Don't Google it. Don't Google it. You could just maybe hit an image and hit a blur. Okay, there she is. This is a woman think about this for a second What? she is No, I mean, I mean her show guys. I get it then you're going to pervert land I'm saying she looks like she's been Google Riley. We read wedding So she recently got married Okay to a guy. I think he's famous for doing parkour. This
Starting point is 02:02:49 is a this is a adorable little girl who has okay go to that image right there so you can see I don't think I can show no no you can show okay I don't show this in the back okay gotcha all right that's her you maybe you don't show that. That's her after being there's no one to show that that we don't show that. That's her after being with let's just say, the starting five for the Lakers. And then juxtapose that with getting married to some dude. And then she says, Hey guys, internet, by the way, she's all over the internet. Hey guys, would you please, um, respect the fact that I'm married now and maybe delete all the scenes I've done on the internet because I've grown now and I want to be respected. So here's this cock marrying a literal porn star and basically saying, don't worry about your past babe. It's okay that you've been
Starting point is 02:03:52 Filled more times than an ex on back gas pump. Okay, so that is the problem with women This is whole flation that is who men are choosing to marry. That's a wife. That's who you're gonna choose to have Hey mom, I want you to introduce you to my new girlfriend Riley Reid Unbelievable. So who's the one that we talked about? You had sex with a hundred guys? Is this like your chance to vent because you're done, okay? So we got it. We understand what you're up with. What does that mean I'm done? You're like, I'm good.
Starting point is 02:04:13 You've been speaking plenty of time. We'll move on. But you do notice what's happening in society. Adam, I got your point. You're in this life, so the only people you're ever with is with nightlife people. No, Pat, you're absolutely wrong. I'll tell you why you're wrong. Am I absolutely wrong? Yeah, I'll tell you why you're wrong. Okay, so go ahead, tell us what you think. Because it's not, it's not ever with is with no life. You're absolutely wrong. I I'll tell you my absolutely wrong. Yeah, I'll tell you okay, so go ahead
Starting point is 02:04:27 Tell us because it's not it's not I'm in this life. Yeah, every man who's single is in this life Yeah, I get that you're happily married you have no no no no no no that is the point no That's not the point no because the point for the point is you don't know what it's like to be single out there and see Half the girls you meet are doing only found them. Where are you looking for these people I'm not even saying no but that's the that's the point though where are you looking worry about me I'm talking about the rest of your you're speaking from your perspective no you're speaking who do you think has more credibility on this topic me or you your to being around holds you yeah I agree you're you're around this that's that's your market that but also
Starting point is 02:05:03 being in no but but but but if you're asking me who has more credibility You do in this area, but also I don't hang out with this girl your chance I also hang out with normal Adam your chest. I'm seeing the challenge that young men are facing How's the last time you did sauce cast? What's the last time you did sauce? It got canceled because I don't know for what is the last time you did sauce cast. It's been a while Why do you think you stopped doing sauce cast? Because I stopped talking about money because someone encouraged me to start talking about the hoes.
Starting point is 02:05:29 Who did? Some gentleman that maybe works here. Someone told you to talk about hoes? No, I didn't say that. Who? I don't know. Tell us who. Go ahead.
Starting point is 02:05:38 Tell you who I am. Go ahead, tell us who. I'm saying what? Someone told you to talk about hoes? Talk about relationships and lifestyle. That's a whole different story. Oh, okay. So for you, how old are you right now, bro?
Starting point is 02:05:52 I'm 45. 45 years old, this is how you're speaking about this? Yes. Because this is how they talk. So what's your criticism with me, sir? This is what? Go ahead and tell me. This is what's going on out there in society at this point.
Starting point is 02:06:05 For who though? In what community? For every man out there. It's not true though. Yes, that is true. That is not true though. What percentage of women did only fence 20 years ago? What percentage of women did only fence 20 years ago?
Starting point is 02:06:17 Do you know how long prostitution has been around? It's the oldest profession. How long has prostitution been around? Forever. Okay then. So go to how longitution's been around? It's the oldest profession. How long has prostitution been around? Forever. Okay then. So go to how long that's been around. The trait of prostitution or whatever you want to talk about it. Ten seconds after the invention of mind.
Starting point is 02:06:32 How long have drugs been around? How long has, but you know what you sound like to me? You sound like a little victim is what you sound like. You sound like a little- You're making this about me and I'm making this about society. No, no, no. So go ahead. I Wait a minute. Go ahead. Wait a minute. Wait a minute any guy who listens to this and Buys into the rhetoric that's being sold hear them out. But if you buy it you sound like a victim
Starting point is 02:06:58 That's what you sound like when somebody talks like that Everybody's this and everybody's that, and everybody's that. You sound defeated, you sound like a victim, you sound weak. You know what it's like? It's like when I ran an insurance business for longest time, my guys would come to me Monday morning and they would say, you know what it is? All these guys with leads and insurance, there are no more people that want to buy life insurance.
Starting point is 02:07:20 Haven't you seen the stats? And just life insurance has been declining. You know when I started a life insurance company in 2009? Do you know what was going on in 2009? Do you know what was happening with insurance companies like AIG? What was going on with AIG in 2009? AIG is about to go out of business. Tarp.
Starting point is 02:07:36 Recession. Trouble. That's right. Do you know what data came out saying that the life insurance industry went from 500,000 agents to 174,000 agents? Life insurance is a dying industry. You know why? Because the old timers that made a lot of money, guess what they're not doing?
Starting point is 02:07:48 They're no longer training new people. And that's what they're doing. They're no longer training any money. Guess what? And I said, you know what? What percentage of agents are women? 17%. You're never going to be able to get women to sell insurance.
Starting point is 02:07:59 Oh really? Yeah, okay. Well look, I saw how buyers and customers will receive the sale coming from a woman versus a man, and I think there's a lot of market. If there's 174,000 agents right now, we used to have a half a million more, there's gotta be a major demand for insurance
Starting point is 02:08:15 because I looked at the data, and I said, that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna build an insurance company. While my competitors were saying there's no more market for life insurance, we licensed 50,000 people and sold the business for a quarter of a billion dollars. While I'm around people that sound like you talking about insurance and there's no more
Starting point is 02:08:31 need for it, what's the point? Is what you're saying with Tinder, with all these dating apps, making it tougher for guys to find girls because they're easier, you don't know how many people they've been with? Yes. Is it tougher if I go on a date right now with Tinder and the script is, you know, you're the first guy I've gone on a date with Tinder. You think I believe that? Of course not. But where am I looking? Versus if I'm really interested and wanted to get married, guess who I'm talking to? The people around me. I'm getting in different communities. I'm going to
Starting point is 02:09:04 different markets just like if an insurance. If you want to sell a $20 million life insurance policy and you want to go to people that are rich, do you think you're going to find them at a nightclub or do you think you're going to find them at a country club? Do you think you're going to find a $20 million life insurance policy, go into a Starbucks or do you think you're going to find it going to the hotel we were at which was whatever that hotel was if we go to Four Seasons or if I go to networking at Mar-a-Lago or if I go where do you think I'm gonna find these types of clients you think having lunch at Mar-a-Lago maybe I'm gonna be around
Starting point is 02:09:34 some clients that can do some premium financing yes it's where you go to look for them so your points you're making although they may be valid because accessibility is more prevalent today than ever before, but prostitution and all this stuff has been around for a very, very long time. To sound like a victim and revert back to the sauce talk talking point that you had 24-7, of course you're not going to get married. And that's okay. By the way, I don't care if you never get married, but the idea of playing the position of I'm gonna know you I want to have a family that and you talk like this I don't know if I'm telling
Starting point is 02:10:08 you to talk like this who are you like you know we had this conversation a year and a half ago when I said the following it's so hard to do it's so hard to do this message here whenever you give a message and you watch like we're in a room and I'm talking to my guys and they're saying to me, well Pat, we don't think we should have a full-timers meeting on the 1st of January. I don't know why you do that every year. Every year on January 1st, I would host a full-timers meeting on the 1st at 8 a.m. And I'm running an office, sales agents that are mainly in their mid to late 20s, some
Starting point is 02:10:50 of the early 30s. Who the hell in their 20s wants to go to a manager's meeting with a freaking crazy guy named Patrick Bedd-David January 1st at 8 a.m.? Who do you think wants to go to? Nobody. Nobody does. Nobody does. But that was my way of lowering the number of DUIs my guys would get because I know what happens on December
Starting point is 02:11:07 31st because I used to party a lot back in the days So, you know when we're having a conversation, you know what the conversation will be like, so what time you think we should have this meeting? I Think we should start it at 11 a.m. I Think we should do barbecue and start it at 10 a.m. I think we should do it. What's going on guys? What is that? No, it's something else. It's our notes from today. Yeah, I think I think we should play that new one and do barbecue for everybody And then you know how many people in the room would agree that we should do it at 8 a.m. Less than 5% And guess what? I'm doing a meeting yet. I'm doing it at 8 a.m.
Starting point is 02:11:38 95% of people hated me for it. I'm still hosting a meeting and I wasn't married. I didn't have kids. I I'm still hosting a meeting. Emma, I wasn't married. I didn't have kids. I, it wasn't like I'm a married guy. It's like, you don't understand what it is to be, I was as single as one could be. And I'm still hosting a meeting. too messy. Experience the thrilling new series. He said he killed another woman. Inspired by a true life story. If I don't deal with him, he will never leave us alone.
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Starting point is 02:12:31 Be very careful who you're entertaining that's validating your point to make you feel like you're validated. Be very careful what mob makes you think you're right. Be very careful what community gives you the attention you need for you to feel like you're the right guy. You're right on this. Be very careful what community gives you the attention you need for you to feel like you're the right guy. You're right on this. Be very careful. Who do you want to win over? There are certain people that have no interest in winning over, you know, and this has been around for a long time. When I didn't want to get married, guess what I want to go to? The places you go to. When I eventually wanted to, I wanted to find a different community, different lifestyle,
Starting point is 02:13:07 different people that have made different choices. And then you sit there and you're like, okay, let's see what's going on here. That's a very big difference. So you can go off and say all this stuff and entertain and so awesome and all this other stuff. It's not a mature statement and it's a victim message. I know you're not going to like me saying that to you. It's just the truth.
Starting point is 02:13:26 You say, well, it's not fair. It's not fair. It's not, you know, it's this, they're all this. This is what's going on out there and this is what the single guys are going through. And yes, I am the face of the single guys that agree with me on this here. There's nothing like family. There's nothing like you working hard to find something you're looking for and having to go against 80% of people that disagree with you. Nothing like it. And by the way, getting married, very hard, hardest thing you'll ever do.
Starting point is 02:13:54 I will only do it once. I've said it 15 years straight, if this doesn't work out, you will never see me get married again. Ever see me get married again. I'm only going to get married once. I'm not doing it twice. That's me. Some people do it two or three times. But for me, it's one thing I'm doing once. I got the four kids. I got the family. It is what it is. But the audience and the victim of language, I don't recommend it to anybody. But some tells me you got to rebuttal here. Well, yeah, I do. Because, dude, if there's anybody that can take heat, it's this guy over here. I'm sure the chat's going crazy. I'm sure.
Starting point is 02:14:28 Oh, I guarantee the chat's on your side. Maybe they're not. I don't care. I'm not even looking at it, but I guarantee the chat is saying that. Go back to that picture of Rachel Ziegler. Because Pat, if I'm going to listen to you, I'm going to say entrepreneurship, building a business, marriage, kids, there's values, principles, religion, God, there's so many things I'm going to listen to PBD on. But you've been
Starting point is 02:14:51 married for 15 years, you don't know what it's like. This is the girl that most guys are dealing with these days. Oh, it's such an annoying angle to take for you. But it's true. No, it's not. So you know what's interesting about me? Bro, the more things change. Is that I'm not soft, and I'm not going to say you're right because you're my is. But it's true. No, it's not. So you know what's interesting about me? Bro, the more things change.
Starting point is 02:15:06 Is that I'm not soft and I'm not going to say you're right because you're my boss. You're right. I'm going to say this is what I feel. Yeah. And let me tell you something. Most guys are saying, hold on, I'm dealing with either a boss babe who doesn't want to deal with an average guy because they're become the man that they want to become. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:23 Right? I mean, I know you're a data guy. It's gone up 10% in the last 20 years. Now more women than ever are single. So you have a girl who's more focused on her career and based on hypergamy, if you don't make a certain amount of money, you don't... But then the second one is, then the second one is you're dealing with a girl who's doing all the ho stuff out there.
Starting point is 02:15:45 Why do you think that our friend in around forever? No, no, no, because the Internet's only been around no for 20 years. Why do you think Andrew Tate has such a big following? Because he's talking about getting married and being living happily ever after. Or he's basically saying guys, the hoes are out there. Let the hoes be hoes. Do what you want with the hoes. This is literally what he says.
Starting point is 02:16:07 But don't marry them. Don't marry them. He just had a viral clip go out there with our friend Sean Kelly. He goes, they're going to do what they're going to do. But don't make the mistake like that schmuck who married Riley Reid and bringing this chick who gets DP'd for a living home to mom. Who the hell are you? Don't make that mistake. and bringing this chick who gets DP'd for a living home to mom. Don't make that mistake.
Starting point is 02:16:27 You're taking the exception and making that the majority. No, but that is what is becoming more common. No, it's not about being more common. Adam, the more and more I think you're about to have a breakthrough, the more easily you're flattered and influenced and revert back to old way of victim thinking. You're making this about me. It is though. I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 02:16:48 I'm going to do what I want to do and I'm going to be okay. No one's saying what. I'm talking about the general man in society. No the general man in society. Is struggling right now. No the general man in society. Is struggling. I'm not telling you.
Starting point is 02:16:59 They're broke. They're not getting laid. They're out of shape. They're sloppy. They're playing video games and they're dealing with women who are basically saying unless you have a yacht or a Boat or a mansion. I'm not gonna deal with you and they're like, oh my god First of all, the general man in society is not living near somewhere where they're yachts. You're in Miami. Miami's not America No, no as a metaphor. No the point. Okay, let's you know your pontoon in Lake Minnetonka. I'm not hanging out with you
Starting point is 02:17:22 Yeah, Adam, whatever you're talking about, that's victim language to me forever. Okay, okay. It's the victim language. I guess I'm a victim. No, no, for sure you are though. In this context, you are. Tell me why I'm the victim here. Because you're-
Starting point is 02:17:34 Because life's pretty damn good for me. Because to me, no, no, because when I was 23 years old, I said I would never meet at 23 years old. If my daughter came up to me and said they're dating me at 23 years old, I would say I'm not ready to have you marry a guy like that and I chose to change if You increase your market value your options go higher Then you get to pick and choose clearly who can do that what man can do that me no no what man can do that Not a guy who's made it in his life that has status
Starting point is 02:18:00 That has been said of being this error Entitled by not even being arrogant. Hear me out. What man can do that? What do you mean what man? Every man can. What man can change to increase their value? Every man.
Starting point is 02:18:12 Every man can or should, but they don't. But that's their problem. I agree. Okay then, so I'm not going to feel sorry for you. But I'm not, you're not... Do you know what the black belt community is? No, hang on a second. If a guy comes out and is sitting there and talking about, well you don't know what the black belt community is? No, hang on a second. If a guy comes out and is sitting there and talking about, well you don't know what the
Starting point is 02:18:25 market's like out there. Sitting there playing, you know, videos 30 hours a day. You deserve exactly what you're getting. I agree. If you're sitting out there gaining 75 pounds and you're fat and you're saying the market sucks, you deserve it. If you're not improving reading books, instead you're reading some nonsense. I fully agree.
Starting point is 02:18:39 So to me, I don't feel sorry for that guy. I don't. So that guy's being the victim. That guy's being the victim. So how am I being the victim by you because I've done all the things that you've told people to do make money get get in good shape no but increase your market value increase your status increase your network I've done all those things so now I'm your benefits of doing that because I'm not settling down right now no one's's, no. Okay. Adam, the biggest criticism towards you is your level of hypocrisy and not being able
Starting point is 02:19:10 to make up your mind. For example, if you say, I want to be a playboy the rest of my life, keep living a life you're living. That's your choice. Keep living it. But don't sit here and say, well, let me tell you, this one girl used to be this. I'm playing all these videos and just a week ago I had a conversation with you about how we talk over certain things we say, you do it again the following week.
Starting point is 02:19:31 After I had a conversation with you last week. After, Sarah Huckabee Sanders looked up to me, I told you I don't like that. So if you want to go do something else on somewhere else, do it. Don't do it in a place like this and I've told you this 50 times. You lack respect in the way you communicate sometimes. Okay. I apologize for that. And I told you this how long ago.
Starting point is 02:19:50 How long ago was this when I had this conversation? And you talk like this, it's like the guy's got two daughters sitting here. There's a part of a little bit of this that respect goes a long way. And by the way, I can sit here and talk to Andrew Tate, have a phenomenal conversation with him and I don't agree with his lifestyle and I can sit there and say, that's what you choose to live, do it. Why don't you push Andrew Tate like you're pushing me right now? No, because I have pushed Andrew Tate.
Starting point is 02:20:14 Not like this? No, because for you, you want to have the family. He said he doesn't want to. You say you do. So you're like this guy, Andrew Tate is like, this is me. Great, go. I respect anybody that believes in whatever they believe in. It doesn't mean I have to choose to live the way you live. For you it's like this. You're so easily, what is the word that you're easily influenced? What is the word that somebody can easily change their minds on flat, not impressionable,
Starting point is 02:20:47 it's a different, malleable. You're so easily malleable. Like you can go hang out with a group here and then you'll change and you can hang out here and then you'll change, you can hang out over there, you'll change. Make up your freaking mind. Who the hell are you? What is your identity? What do you stand for?
Starting point is 02:21:01 Every freaking week you change to somebody new. Who are you? It's true though. I fully disagree with you. I agree with you. I fully believe that. Because I say one day I would like to have a family, you're using that as against me to be like, well where's your damn family already, bro?
Starting point is 02:21:16 This guy said this for the last five years. He doesn't have anything. Give Vinny the same five that you've given me. Nobody said that to you. Keep that energy with Vinny. Because Vinny. When you're trying to get him a girlfriend on the neck. But Vinny, the difference between you and Vinny is Vinny wants to have a family and
Starting point is 02:21:31 Vinny doesn't want to go to the clubs, 11 night clubs 24-7. He doesn't. He doesn't want to live that life. Period. That's Vinny's choice. And that's Vinny's choice. Guess what? I respect his choice because he's standing his ground that this is what I want to do.
Starting point is 02:21:45 Vinny wakes up in the morning, Vinny chooses to read the Bible. Not because I told him to read the Bible, because I don't read the Bible in the morning. That guy does. He's the example to him. I'm not the guy that says, you better read your Bible in the morning. That's a bad example. I don't do that. So I can't sit there and claim to do something that I'm not doing myself.
Starting point is 02:22:01 Biggest criticism to you is make up your damn mind and stand up for something already. Make up your damn mind and stand up for something already. Truly for you. The audience sitting there is like, let me tell you, he's right. You don't know what the girls are like after you don't. Girls have been like that for as long as I've known girls. Not like this today, Pat. They've been like this for as long as I've known girls. Okay, not like today, Pat. You can say not like today. I wish I could just have that in my DNA to say, look, Pat's my boss, he's the man, and I'm not going to disagree with him. I'm sorry, if I disagree, I'm going to say I fully disagree. I don't care if you disagree.
Starting point is 02:22:36 One of our key words on the freaking company is debate. But respectful. Am I disrespecting you? The way you're presenting your argument is disrespectful. I don't think it is. I think it is. Because I cursed one time, I apologize. No, it's because I had a talk with you.
Starting point is 02:22:50 But my argument is not wrong because I cursed one time. I apologize about that. Your argument for a person that wants to live that life is not wrong. Yes, if you want to live that life. And I'm telling you, it's a victim man's life. Let me put it to you this way. If I date a girl, she leaves me, she does something to betray me,
Starting point is 02:23:14 and leaves me for another man with more money, am I the victim? Am I the victim? If you have a victim mentality, maybe you are. If you're like, I'm gonna get back, get back out there, back up there, dump myself, get out there, you'll be fine. Give the ownership for that woman to see me as a victim. I will never give it that credibility. I agree with you. Perfect. So for you, you're civil. Let me tell you all the girls, that's all the girls, all the girls, that's a victim's language. I don't know what just
Starting point is 02:23:41 happened to the mic. Something happened to it, it popped. So whatever you guys did in the back, it just popped here for me. Okay Well, I apologize for cool do it do it do it do it guys guys And I'm gonna say it publicly. I think this was a very much needed conversation. I think the way that you and I interact on camera even off camera is Very important we can have a great time together and and then we can argue and go back to neutral. I had a conversation, okay, with a couple friends this last week, and I told them very simply a word that gets me to realize who I can trust more or less.
Starting point is 02:24:30 You know what is the, for me at least, this is going to sound weird, someone's going to say you're crazy and I don't blame you. It's okay if you say that I'm okay with this. The older you get, you ought to have some values and principles that you're willing to die for. And the older you get, you should have things you stand for. For me, my number one is seeing another man that has a fear of God. And when you see another man fear of God, there are certain decisions they're going to make because they fear God. You get somebody else that doesn't have that fear, they're reckless. I have kids.
Starting point is 02:25:12 When I have kids, I went on a date with my daughter the other night. We set the phone aside and she sat right here. We didn't even do a double date. We went just by ourselves. It was a father-daughter dance, whatever you want to call it. We've never laughed this hard together. Never. Laughed this hard together. When she grows up, she may marry a guy like me. A guy that, you know, probably has a strong personality, a guy that's probably gonna be within my community where they're at. I pray to God to watch over her.
Starting point is 02:25:48 I pray to God for her to have good people in her life. My job is to do whatever I can to make that environment more protective of her, hopefully set an example so later on she's able to make some good choices in her life. It's so much easier and attractive to just live a life of just for me. It is a lot easier life. Trust me, if I right now chose to drop everything I got going on with the family and the kids and everything, I would have way more time to run my companies. I'd probably make a lot more money.
Starting point is 02:26:20 And I'd probably have a more fun life. Living a selfish life. There's no way in the world it's gonna be fulfilling. To me, others can live it, and guess what? More power to you. But what do you stand for? Until you can't get a paper and pen and write down what you stand for and everything's about, there this,
Starting point is 02:26:38 let me tell you Pat doesn't know this, and da da da da, for me the hoes, my birds on. All right, cool, live that life. You know, and the way you live you're gonna track that audience whoever connects you you're attracting people like yourself what you tell them you're gonna get them to live the life that you've lived versus giving them a different direction and saying you may want to consider this that's how I'm wired I don't have to be problem with the debate we do this all the time We're a 24-7 debate environment.
Starting point is 02:27:06 Guy comes up to me saying, hey, you don't like Adam, I hear you're gonna fire him. No, that's not been the case. I will tell you that the respect part is very important to me, and I've told you this many times, and that's not going away anytime soon. It's not.
Starting point is 02:27:20 It's gonna be very, yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm just, it's not, not just respecting me, respecting the audience that comes and tunes into us. We're not everybody else's show. It's a lot of shows that's like, fuck this, screw this, F this, that's a, it's not, this is not the show. This is to show that let's try to make our argument
Starting point is 02:27:37 in the most reasonable fashion and be entertaining at the same time if we can. While trying to maintain what? Respect. I don't wanna lecture you, I'm just giving you my values. I'm cool with that. I'm like this age, what I wanna do. Anyways, okay, Rob, did we miss any stories?
Starting point is 02:27:53 Cause I think we still have two hours left. It looks like Tom and Vinny wanna weigh in right now. No, no, they've been playing Tic Tacs over there and just looking at their notes. Thank you for that, Pat. Yeah, of course. Rob, what do we have tomorrow? Tomorrow 9 a.m. we have the open AI whistleblower, Sachir Balaji's parents joining us on the
Starting point is 02:28:10 podcast and then Thursday home team. Thursday home team. Okay guys, by the way, tomorrow's podcast, she did a podcast with Tucker Carlson January 15th. She got footage from the officers, chess recording saying this looks like a homicide and she gave us a bunch of documentation that'll be revealed tomorrow this is the accidental the sudden death of the open AI whistleblower that the autopsy says suicide but they went and hired a PI and they come and do the recording and they
Starting point is 02:28:38 say I don't know if it's a suicide or not there may be a second bullet there but you'll see that tomorrow in the podcast when it's revealed at 9 a.m. take care everybody God bless bye bye bye

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