PBD Podcast - "He's A Minion" - Rick Ross GOES OFF: 50 Cent, Drake & Hip-Hop's Biggest Beefs | PBD #806

Episode Date: May 26, 2026

Rick Ross sits down with Patrick Bet-David to discuss Drake, 50 Cent, billion-dollar ambitions, music industry politics, real estate, business moves, and his rise from Miami hustler to global mogul. H...e also opens up about legacy, competition, mindset, and his upcoming album Set In Stone.-------📘 RICK ROSS "RENAISSANCE OF A BOSS": https://bit.ly/4f7uwVT🚗 5TH ANNUAL RICK ROSS CAR & BIKE SHOW: https://bit.ly/4uP2YtD💿 PRE-ORDER RICK ROSS' "SET IN STONE": https://bit.ly/42Xq9p5

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You were a correctional officer for what, 16 months, 17 months, 17? No, much less than that. But whatever the story was, that part of my life, they missed it. They missed it? They're half a billion late, man. So I brought on Freeway Rick Ross. Was he the reason why you named yourself? He's a crackhead.
Starting point is 00:00:15 What are you talking about? Why would a crack kid inspire the boss Rick Ross? History with UN 50. Is it better not? That's a nice alley hoop you just threw me, but... You're going to take it or you're going to pass it back? I told you, I'm a one by yama, this bitch for you. And it went by, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:31 But nah, homie wash. I took his younger son fishing before. This is when you guys were good? I called him Bruce Leeward. And 50 new year, taking a fishing. The important thing here is 50 cents sun got to fish. At a great location. Star Island.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Miami has always been the spot. It's the sunlight. It's the ocean. It's the breeze. The alkaline air. You can keep selling it, by the way. You throw me the alley, but I got you. Hopefully one day I'll become a minority owner.
Starting point is 00:01:01 in the Miami Dolph? Oh, really? The CFO is a good friend of mine. Chris, text him right now. Chris! Would you want to be actively involved? What? You think I'm gonna walk around and not be involved?
Starting point is 00:01:11 Ha! In 06, everybody was bidding for you. It was a lot of people who understood my direction. I just made it clear. This wasn't going to be regular. It's Big Boy Heavyweight. Rick Ross's collaborations. Shade is number one on the list.
Starting point is 00:01:29 For her to do a concert, all she has to do a concert, All she has to do is come out in a white gown, no shoes, and just sit down Indian style. If you're putting it out there, they're probably going to reach out to you. Oh, my God. I would love to go get you a cup of matcha. Would you put Drake at your level? Of course not.
Starting point is 00:01:47 He's a minion. You're not putting Drake at your level. I can see it in your eyes. You might be confused. PBD, come on now. Yeah. I catch your alleys. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:01:58 You can't be afraid of a response. Ice Sense from a minion. Did you listen to Iceman? I listened to some of it. My engineer was horrendous. This is a motherfucker who's always bringing up Michael Jackson. What a Billy Jean at. It's fair to say you guys won't be collaborating anytime soon.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I don't know. Some might want to go fishing. Rick Ross in the house, how you doing? Wonderful, wonderful. Yeah, this book of yours that came out, very different than the other two. Very different. Without a doubt. Huh?
Starting point is 00:02:32 Without a doubt. Yeah, it's very. obviously, you know, from the outside when somebody watches you, your song, your hits, the stuff that you've had. But I was not expecting for you to come out and talk about a midlife crisis in this book of yours that just came out. Why not? Well, I mean, it's good because it relates to everybody.
Starting point is 00:02:50 You know, a lot of other people in business who go through it, they watch someone like you, and they automatically think that you have everything figured out for somebody like you to kind of open up and be vulnerable. It relates to everybody, especially in business. But the part that was the interesting thing for me, 100 car collection, is it true that you got your driver's license at 45? Let's say, okay, when I was 15, you get your little pre-drivers license. You know, then, you know, you're in high school. You get your license.
Starting point is 00:03:22 But my license expired after high school, and I've never went and renewed them to, you know, a few years ago. Got it. So you did get the license at. 15, 16, but you didn't renew it. Yeah, in high school, I did the little driver's course, boom, they gave you the, I forgot what they call it. Before your driver's license. You get you some shit, you're some shit like that.
Starting point is 00:03:44 You know what I said, at 15, and then at 16, yeah, drivers there, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then at 16, they gave me my license, but I never renewed them. But I also went, you know, a long time without driving, so. A long time without driving. So literally you weren't driving. Yeah, a long time. You know, I was using drivers.
Starting point is 00:04:04 You know what I'm saying? So you didn't need a driver's license. I didn't. That's what I felt like. What was your first car, by the way? What was the first car you ever had? Man, R.P. to my grandfather, he gave me a 76 caprice.
Starting point is 00:04:16 He knew, he understood the love I had for Chevys at a young age. So, you know, he had him a little small collection, a little spot where they used to work on cars at. So, yep, I had a two-door just. like the blue one right at what age yeah 15 16 16 years old first car first car now did you get your drive and your you know competitiveness from your grandfather was he one that was you know also hustling or where did that drive come he without a doubt was a hustler he was he was without a doubt you know I'm saying he was from clogsdale mississippi and for you to have you know automobile motor shop or something you got to really be a go get him and and was he tough was it a close relationship
Starting point is 00:05:00 where he would toughen you up or, you know, where did the toughness come? No, he was really, he was really soft-spoken and really just shared that wisdom. He really shared that wisdom. What did he share with you at a young age? No, just a lot of different game. Told me a lot of different stories. Just a lot of different, if you're going to be great, you got to be great. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:19 Just a lot of different. Okay, let me tell you like this. You could sit around and you would hear stories like, yo, they'll tell you how a big boy told him. what they would do, a lot of people, let's say if you was a rich, you know what I'm saying, you would put a piece of paper right there on the floor, right? And if you have somebody come in, let's say, if you're interviewing them for something. Yeah. And if they stepped over that paper, they wouldn't even, it's already done.
Starting point is 00:05:47 What does that mean? That mean, if I got to tell you to pick that paper up, you ain't on your A game. Wow. Wow. So when you step into some place, if you see that, you got to, as you go, you already. making moves. Wow. So that's that game you could get from somebody. If you're a youngster,
Starting point is 00:06:06 if you're 12, 15 years old and you listen to somebody that's 60, that's the type of game you get. And that's what I absorbed and that's what I apply to the way I hustle now. When did you know you were special? When did you know you had something special in you? How early?
Starting point is 00:06:21 Like you knew something was different about you? You know, it wasn't too early because at first I had to accept my weaknesses. You know, when I first was in school, I damn there could remember the first day when they gave us a paper and pencil when we was tracing the letters. You know, that would be A, B, and C.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I remember looking around when everybody else understood the instructions. The whole class, everybody else tracing the letters, A, B, and C. And I was looking around like, damn, I missed all of this. So that's what I had to deal with the first beginning of my life.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I'm not good in math. I'm not this. Okay, my strengths are reading. And I love films. I love showing me something on the screen versus listening to this man talk in front of me. I have nothing in common with these people. In school?
Starting point is 00:07:16 In school. And what grade? How early was that? First grade. Oh, wow. I knew it was a problem there. So who is feeding confidence into you? Because you're very confident.
Starting point is 00:07:25 My mother, yeah. What would she say to you? How did she develop the confidence? They don't understand you, William. They don't understand. understand you. I'm talking about the whole school telling me you don't need to be in public schools. She's telling you this. No, the school, the principals, everybody else, you know, the people they send to your house to sit down and talk with your parents and try to tell them there's something
Starting point is 00:07:47 wrong with this individual. And she's saying, no, you're wrong. And you would see this exchange she's having with them. Yeah, I've sat in a, you know, of course. Wow. Multiple times. And I would watch her defend me. You know who else was like that? The documentary of Kanye when you watched the role his mom played. His mom was also big on developing confidence in him as well. I don't know if you saw the documentary with Kanye. I might have missed it. Yeah. It was also a similar thing where, you know, the role of mother plays in raising the son and what kind of comp. So you're getting that support. Now, when you're going to school, are you, you know, are you early on rapping? Are you playing in sports, what would a
Starting point is 00:08:29 Rick Ross, if I was in fifth grade with you or 10th grade with you, who was Rick Ross in fifth and 10th grade? I was most definitely a class clown. I was highly respected. I wasn't on no bully type vibe, you know, but I hit you
Starting point is 00:08:45 with a two piece real quick, you know what I mean? So give me a little piece of that pizza you eating on, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? But other than that, you know, I used to crack jokes and music was in my life by this time. Because by this time, yeah, about the fifth grade, you know, I have, you know, friends now.
Starting point is 00:09:07 We got homies and one of my closest friends. His name was Avery Branch. Whatever he had, I've been looking for him for the last few years. He's been featured on two or three of my albums. But he had what his mom would do was like, you know, kids that had problems. She would adopt him. So, you know, it's almost like he had five or six big brothers in his crib. And they were doing music and everything else.
Starting point is 00:09:35 So I was introduced, you know, through my homie, boom, to his big brothers, them who had vinyl records, this, that. Oh, so we're a rap group. Yeah, y'all are rap group now. Okay, so we're a rap group. Shit. It's all good. And so was that the first time you freestyle or what's the first time you freestyle, but you're like, okay, this guy can hang?
Starting point is 00:09:55 You know, my freestyle skills was never like that. I always wanted to put some thought into it. You know what I'm saying? I had homies who would start just spitting, but that never really impressed me. You know what I'm saying? The dudes I were listening to, they were saying things that was damn their mind-blowing.
Starting point is 00:10:14 So if I walked up to somebody and somebody was like, yeah, my kicks on, hits on, dick's on, Rick's song. Yo, chill out, homie. That's not you. No. Who'd you listen to in fifth grade, like at that age? Shit, I was listening to everywhere. East coast, west coast, down south, it didn't matter.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Because you got to remember by the time I'm in the fifth grade and I'm listening to Too Shorter, if it's EZE or if it's NWA, it's almost making me feel like I've been to L.A. Of course I've never been there. But this is where I could sit in my room and imagine, yo, this is what L.A. like, the lowriders, the cars, the paint jobs, the gold datings, the corners, They're painting the picture of what LA is like through rap.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Through music. Wow. So you're, okay, so you're, you just turned, how would you, I just saw that you just had your 50th, right? Just celebrated my 50th. 50th, I did. 50th, it is a big deal, man, to go through it. I think after like 30, everything's by decades.
Starting point is 00:11:16 You celebrate every 10 years, 40, 50, 60. Why not? Why not? Yeah, yeah, fuck it, why not? Celebrate it. But if you're in fifth grade, fifth grade is what? You're 10, 11 years. old. So that's 39 years ago. Thirty-nine years ago is late 80s.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Got to be. Late 80s. So who's late 80s? Because Tupac hasn't come out yet late 80s. Right. Who short is? No, no, no. Tupac hasn't come out yet. So really it was about, it was about your MTV raps. Right. You know, those videos. So after school, I would, as soon as we got out of school at 2.30, boom. I may have had 30 minutes to get home before your MTV raps. came on. Everything that was on there, I was a fan of. If it's East Coast, if it's Tribe Car Quest, Buster Rhymes, leader of the new school, public enemy, L.L., whatever it is. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:12:08 Because I'm, I don't fell in love with it for the music, the creative expression, the fashion, everything, the videos, the artwork, the graffiti, the cars. That shit grabbed me from every... It was like an octopus. And was it sudden, like in fifth gradeish? Or was it even... It was already gone from you know, me first hearing music. What are, for me, there's three songs I listened to where I, you know, all of a sudden I had to stop. I'm like, I cannot believe I'm hearing a voice like this.
Starting point is 00:12:35 But what was it for you? Maybe one of the hip-hop songs where you listen to, you're like, this is just different than anything else I've ever done in my life, especially when you were young. It was phenomenal. It was amazing. So growing up in my household, my mom played Johnny Taylor every weekend. Every time we was in a car, we listened to music. So I was just exposed to music from before I could even recall.
Starting point is 00:13:02 So when you listen to my sounds, the Mayback music, live instrumentation, feeling, that expensive orchestra-filling sound, that's what that come from. Me listening to old soulful music, R&B, that was before I could even talk. So by the time rap music, you know, came into play, it was, I understood and could blend them both. Rap and R&B. Of course. So right now, if I go through my playlist right now,
Starting point is 00:13:30 you at the top might be Fleetwood Mac. Then it might go to goddamn DJ quick. Then it might go. You know, it's just anything you could imagine. Old school army or 90s R&B? Man, I listen to everything. Everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Yeah, 90s R&B, in my opinion, was the best R&B. That's easily. I understand that, but it's easily debatable. What would you put comparable to the 90s R&B? Man, you've got to go back to... Old school? Anita Baker. You got to go back to...
Starting point is 00:14:06 It's like, who do you put next to Anita Baker? Who do you put next to... Who do you compare from the 90s to that? When I think about the sound of Shade, who could you compare? She's one of a kind. Thank you. She's one of a kind. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I wish you would. would perform more, but that's why when she does it, I read somewhere that she doesn't like, and I understand. She's one of those. Pure artist. Oh my God, we got to protect her with all out. Have you ever met her? Of course not.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Oh, you haven't. Of course not. You answered that quickly. Of course. Intentionally, you don't want to meet her. Intentionally, no, never that. Rose would have had a collaboration with Charday if I met her. Stop.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I would have went and got us some match her. So would that be. at the top of the list as a collaboration? Of course, in human life one. Wow. Shadeh. That's the music. That's what I'm trying to talk about.
Starting point is 00:15:03 I grew up to, you know, beautiful sounds. Sounds that if you close your eyes, it's like you could see them in color. And that's what Shadee does for me. I agree. What's your favorite Shadee song? I never thought we're gonna talk Shadee today. That was not in my top 50 list today.
Starting point is 00:15:19 It's too many to list for Shade. To me, you could just go go Shade's greatest hits and let it go. I fully agree. Just leave that alone. Play that. That's for anybody listening. I agree. You pull up Shade's greatest hits and fall back. Do yourself the biggest favor.
Starting point is 00:15:34 One by one. It's never as good as the first time. Cherished the day. Without a doubt. It's never good as the first time. Number one. Never as good as the first time. Never as good as the first time. Greatest songs. Char de ever created. And she's telling you the story. And I believe her. I believe what she's telling me. But there was a part about her where you know, she gets uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:15:52 time she would announce a concert, it would sell out within like the first, you know, a few minutes, you know, because the world wanted to watch her. Imagine how many babies I've been born to Shadei, you know. So who would be your two on the list? If Shade is one who would be two or three that you haven't collaborated with yet. Well, I have collaborated with Mary J. Blige, but most definitely what Shade does, what Anita Baker does. That's too easy.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Anita Baker most definitely for Rose is like, you know what I mean, it's different. So I just listen to, you know. You just listen to Anita Baker? Yes, I listen to, you know, like I say, my playlist is different. But when I'm thinking of these voices and Rick Ross collaborations, without a doubt, Charday is number one on the list. Her voice, her sounds. for her to do a concert
Starting point is 00:16:52 all she has to do is come out in a white gown no shoes and just sit down Indian style yeah you already visualizing in the video, the collaboration it's too easy it's too easy I see
Starting point is 00:17:06 I mean if you're putting it out there they're probably going to reach out to you oh my God have you ever reached out to her oh my God I would love to go get you a cup of matcher It's true. It's true. Even though we're smiling, Shadee, I mean it.
Starting point is 00:17:30 What was the movie that her song was a big hidden with Demi Moore and Robert Redford? Indecent proposal. Have you ever seen Indecent Proposal? Do you remember that movie 30 years ago? I'm not sure. I remember the title, but that might have been out of Rose Luke 30 years ago.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Yeah. A decent proposal. Yeah, there's a scene where, I mean, the main song is ordinary love in the movie and it's Shadei. It makes sense. Whoever scored the music was very smart. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Right. Yeah. Are you a movie guy as well? You watch a lot of movies? I love movies. What are your favorite movies? Well, my favorite film, Quentin Tarantino, was my favorite director.
Starting point is 00:18:15 So Reservoir Dogs. All of that. Kill Bill. Reservoir Dogs was the first one he did. You know, he did it for $400,000. A guy made like $20 million on Reservoir Dogs. He made more than that. On Reservoir Dogs?
Starting point is 00:18:28 Of course. Shit was legendary. Yeah, Reservoir Dogs is phenomenal. I think about it. All they had was black and white suits on the whole time in a warehouse. Yeah, in a warehouse. That's it. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:18:41 So my sister's husband is trying to impress my dad. So he comes over to the house. He says, oh, I got a movie from Blockbuster. you picked a movie and he brings reservoir dogs. I don't know if you've seen Reservoir Dogs, Rob. I mean, it starts off with four, 500 F-bombs. And my dad's like, what kind of a son-in-law brings a movie like this for the first time to impress me? He was smart.
Starting point is 00:19:02 He was smart. They're still together. They were smart. They're still trying to tell you. So he chose. See, Amex, shout out to you, if you remember that day. You brought the movie Reservoir Don. You were smart, man.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Nothing but success. So Quentin Tarantino. Without a doubt. Who else? I know you've called yourself Renzel. So are you a Denzel guy or? Oh, Denzel, most definitely. Favorite Denzel flick?
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Starting point is 00:19:46 One less thing on your. plate. Actually, a lot less. Visit staples.ca. Slapes.com. That was easy. Is he one of the guys, or whatever movie he does you just watch? I mean, we've watched him
Starting point is 00:20:03 from being a young man all the way to he's, you know, 70 years old, still, you know, having fights on the trains and fighting the mafia and, you know, hits. And there's not many people that can
Starting point is 00:20:20 pull that off and you actually enjoy watching it. Yeah. I can't. I enjoy it. I don't know if he's acting. Like, I think Denzel was one decision away from being a very different person in his life. Somebody got a hold of him early. Oh, he makes it clear, though. He's been very open and about the life he lives, but you could be Denzel
Starting point is 00:20:41 at his age and still be the equalizer. You're a motherfucker. Yeah. Each one of them are better than the other one. I love him. Yeah. American gangster? Two might be my favorite. Two. Yeah, Equalizer, two may be my favorite. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Is two the one where he walks up to the guys that took advantage of the girl and walks upstairs to their room and knocks on the door and gives a card? That's two. Yeah. Yeah, two was, these revenge. When he was the Uber driver. When he was the Uber driver. Yeah, that's two.
Starting point is 00:21:10 I confuse it with one and two. Yeah, two is intense. Two is the one. Emotion. Like, you know, who's the other guy, Rose, that does the revenge, What's the guy's name that's taken? What is the guy's name? Liam Neeson.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Yeah, Liam Nees. Oh, he does these revenge movies. Yeah, he's another 75-year-old that'll kick in the door and kill eight motherfuckers. You know, allegedly, he's with Pamela Anderson now. So they're, I don't know if you heard about that. Pamela's smart. Tell me why. Why?
Starting point is 00:21:39 Because she with Liam. She got nice boobs. She keeps her boobs, right? Yeah. Yeah. She with Liam. It's important. You got to keep him straight.
Starting point is 00:21:48 You got to be smart. Yeah. Oh my God, she's smart. Shout out to the smart women. She one time did an interview. It was a very weird interview, but, you know, her son is, I think, sitting next to her. At the time he was 28, and she's talking about how at the peak of it when she would go and date guys and they would have sex as if they learned how to have sex through porn. And she said, she had to tell men, this is not how I like to have sex.
Starting point is 00:22:17 I want you to have sex with me. I don't want you to think this is a porn movie. So she said the influence of porn has on young men confuses them what women actually like. What do you think about that? I think that was, like I said, she's smart. She was expressing herself and she wanted to be direct on what she wanted. So she wanted to make sure she enjoyed herself instead of someone just joy riding around and she not enjoyed it. I like that.
Starting point is 00:22:44 That was a great idea. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's an interesting perspective. But when she's, you know, with a boss, you know, he's the shot caller. And Liam's the boss. You're saying you. Yeah, yeah, without a doubt, me.
Starting point is 00:22:59 So shot caller is whatever the shot caller says is what we're doing. Oh, most definitely. Even though she's going to be fine, you're going to be happy, baby. Have you ever met Pamela Anderson or no? I don't recall. I've been to a few, you know, red carpets, this and that. Rose, your book, it's slightly different. It's, you know, it opens up with, you know, the flight.
Starting point is 00:23:28 You're, you know, going through a midlife crisis. You're going through a challenge at the time. So, you know, maybe share a little bit of the inside of what got you to point of realizing you're going through midlife crisis. What events led to that? Because you've made the money. You've had the house. You've had the cars. A lot of them, you've traveled.
Starting point is 00:23:47 You've had hits after hits after hits. you know, a source man of the year back-to-back, nine Grammy nominations, you know, you live in one of the biggest houses with 350,000 gallon pool, if I'm not mistaken, one the biggest pools in America, the one in Atlanta. You've lived a big life. So at what point do you say,
Starting point is 00:24:08 after all this, I'm hitting midlife crisis? How does that happen? That's when your life is not based on your achievements. None of the swimming pools, the 300 acres. that isn't what you, for myself, based my life or my level of success or that doesn't determine what I'm satisfied with. So when you're a person like myself who still has that fire burning, you still have to be creative and creative in a way where you've challenged your greatest work.
Starting point is 00:24:38 So that's where me talking about a rut or a midlife crisis coming in at. That's me creating music in, you know, where music was at. At that time, you know, it was a lot of more rappers singing than rappers rapping, the sounds, the melodies, the production, the Aido Waits, the drums. You know, I love heavy rap music. You know, this is expensive, dope boy music that Ricky Rose. You know, I rap for the ones that want to, you know, that plush lifestyle. That's the music that I was making.
Starting point is 00:25:13 And at the time, it felt like the game wasn't ready for. that. So that's when I began challenging myself and what can I create that the streets is going to appreciate. And so that's what a book come in to play at. And, you know, I'm releasing my album June 12th next month, set in stone, because I've put together a body of work that's going to challenge every album I've ever released. Body, that's going to be tough. You think it's going to challenge every album you've ever released. Without a doubt, or I would not have released it. That's what I'm talking about. talking about for myself.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I don't want to, I could just rap if I wanted to, but I'm not here for that. Rose, a boss. You know what I'm saying? This is legacy. So when I say set in stone, it's not just paper and pen. No, this is something that we discussed hundreds
Starting point is 00:26:07 of years from now what Ricky Rosey doing. What does the 50-year-old Ricky Rosee know that the 30-year-old or the 40-year-old didn't know? Well, the 50-year-old Rose ain't know, boy. You're on a hell of a pace. You're going to hit a billion, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:26:23 The 40-year-old, Rose was just understanding what it's like to be wealthy. Now, how do you grow from there? What's next? Okay, you have a estate with 100 rooms with the largest residential pool on 300. Where do you go next? These are all the questions that myself, I'm going down the list and challenging myself. okay that's when I bought another piece of property on Star Island for 37 million put another 25 million in it I had two offers of of a hundred million before it was even completed right across the street from
Starting point is 00:27:02 McKin Griffin billing something worth a billion I saw so once again is we're talking about investments how do you elevate that's what the music that's what the brands Luke Belair the potato chips the books everything that I'm doing and I want to challenge myself. So that's where I came to, where it's no more just being comfortable, being known as a top five lyricists in the game. Now, let's go higher.
Starting point is 00:27:30 So next is billionaire status for you. That's the next phase. Without a doubt. What excites you at this phase? What gets you out of bed at this phase? You got the money, you got the house, you got the cars. What excites you now? Of course, man.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Once again, it's the challenges. I'm loving, I'm accepting. I was just with the Miami Dolphins. I helped roll out the schedule this year's schedule. So we filmed a lot of content. I met the coaches, the team, the staff, the players, this and that. And, you know, hopefully one day I become a minority owner in the Miami Dolphi. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:28:07 Why not? Okay. We thinking big, right? Yeah, that's good. Okay. That's good. I think NFL, the CFO is a good friend of mine of Miami Dolphins. Chris, he's a...
Starting point is 00:28:18 Tell Chris Ricky Rosey ready to... I'll text him right now. Chris. Chris. Chris. You want to tell him you want to be a minority? Chris, yeah. Start in minority, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:28:29 So let's just text them right now. Send him a text right now. Yeah, I'm going to do it right now. Let him know Rosey got the money. Okay, so Chris, this is Patrick Beddabody. I got a friend of mine that says he wants to be a minority order of the dolphins, a guy name Rick Ross. Rick Rouse.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Shout out to Chris. There you go, Chris. He may want to reach out and become a minority owner. I know you guys, we talked about it last time. Big time. So minority owner of dolphins. Oh, man. That excites you.
Starting point is 00:29:03 It excites me. Okay. All right. Favorite sport? I never imagine being a water boy, but hey, what to him? For the dolphins. Yeah, I think there is $7 billion organization valuation-wise. they wouldn't take, yeah, he bought it for a billion in 2009.
Starting point is 00:29:20 What is it, okay, there was I'm going to lend one percent of that, 12 and a half billion dollar valuation today. So one percent on 12 and a half. No, let's start at 3%. So you want 3%. Yeah, let's start at 3. So you need 375 million for that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:34 To be 3%. Okay. So that's a good start right there. Now, would you want to be involved? Would you want to be actively involved decisions, you know, players? Rose, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm interject myself. to the involvement. That's too easy.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Automatically. What? You think I'm going to walk around and not be involved? What would you say? What advice? Okay, so who do you like any? Would you say, let's go get X, Y, Z, let's go get this. Is that how you involve you want to see?
Starting point is 00:30:03 You're seeing more marketing, you know. Everything. Rose got a few ideas. Let's be great. Any players you like. Current players. Why not? Who do you like today?
Starting point is 00:30:16 in the NFL? The Dolphins. Player-wise. Malik, our new quarterback. Okay. So anything with the Dolphins? Anything pro-dolphs, I'm glad you caught that. Chris.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Chris, I know you caught that. So you also know the political game. No, I don't. I know the Dolphins. You know the Dolphins. Yeah. Are you an OG Dolphins fan? Like, you know, Dan Marino.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Big term. OG, receivers. Man, Mark Clayton, Mark Duper. Yep. Of course. Of course. And you move. Zach Thomas.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Are you, Zach Thomas is a, stud of a guy. Legend. 54, right? Was he 50, or 54? I think 54. Legend. Yeah, I just saw him the other day. At, we were doing a trick or treat on Halloween.
Starting point is 00:31:07 He said, hey, are you PBD? I said, wait, are you Zach Thomas? By the way, he still looks the same. That's that. look, how old is he? 52 years old, he still looks the same. Exactly, real deal. Real one. Stut of a guy. The guy would run around tackling
Starting point is 00:31:24 people. Everybody was frightened of this guy. No, you're real one. Baby elephant. Why not? Yeah. So, by the way, are you fully moved back to Miami or are you still going back to Georgia? No, I got real estate in a few other states, but Miami has always been a spot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:39 So over 180 days, you spend more in Miami? Without a doubt. Is that tax purpose? Or is it because this is home? No, no, no, it's because it's the sunlight. Yeah. It's the ocean. It's the breeze.
Starting point is 00:31:55 The alkaline air. Yeah. You can keep selling it, by the way. This is, you know. No, it's an easy place to sell. Thank you. You told me the alley, I got you. So you sound like you could run for governor one day and sell Florida and get a bunch of people to move.
Starting point is 00:32:12 No, thanks, no, thanks. Not interested in that space. Just the dog's style. Let's get the three people. Let's get to 3%. 3% in. So going back to early on when we're talking about 5th grade, 10th grade,
Starting point is 00:32:25 so first time, because when I see the story in 06 or 07, everybody was bidding for you before your song came up. It was a lot of people who understood my direction. But once I released every damn hustling, that's when the bidding war turned all the way up. So the bidding wars
Starting point is 00:32:48 after every damn hustling. Facts. Got it. Facts. And who did they, like, what was it? So the leverage for you was the fact that you earned a moral authority that I got a hit because you saw someone, 200,000. And not just a hit. This is one of the biggest
Starting point is 00:33:04 records of the year, without a doubt. And the streets felt that immediately. How quickly did life change for you? Was it an overnight thing? Without a doubt. And what did you feel? As soon as the record came out I understood. That's when every executive in their industry reached out directly. How did they treat you before it? How did they treat you after it?
Starting point is 00:33:26 Well, you know, it wasn't a way they treated me before it because we had no communication. You know, I was just an independent local Miami artist. The day I released every damn hustling, maybe two weeks later at the most, I had spoke to the top 10 executives in the industry. What do they tell anyone to calling you? We want to do business with you. Open-ended. Right then. What do you need?
Starting point is 00:33:54 This is what? This is an 08, 06? No, 06. 06. So who were the players at the time that there, is it Leor? Is it Cohen? Who's calling? Leor, without a doubt. Lear, but I allowed Leior to manage me for a year just because of the conversations we were having.
Starting point is 00:34:09 In 06. Facts. So who else called? Who were the heavy-waist that called? Everybody. Tom Wally. Tommy Matola LA Reid Yeah shout out to Tommy Matola That's my guy
Starting point is 00:34:21 LA Reed Tommy Matola Yes the list goes on Who was the most attractive Well You know I was pretty I was pretty
Starting point is 00:34:31 Frank You know straight up I want the Mugon Who's coming with the most money baby In the first conversations We began at seven figures And then just from there You know, I went, I met, met a few people.
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Starting point is 00:36:03 And people are either productive or dead weight. It's my first day of work and I need to make a big impression. Well, you're just checking me out. No. It's too bad. I see at least 15 ladies I need to talk to you before my beta block and wears off. My coworkers don't take me
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Starting point is 00:36:50 Oh, everybody had the... It was clear. where I ultimately was going to stop at it was about the money but everybody I made it clear what I needed as in support-wise and what my plan was
Starting point is 00:37:05 music-wise and I just wanted them to understand this is not just a one record one-off type of thing I'm going to have a classic album then my second album is going to be this way so I need everybody to see the vision this ain't just one record
Starting point is 00:37:21 I know how that shit go this is why I'm hot this is what you know all those records came and went no this ain't that this big boy heavyway shit and I made that clip who was who was most impressive to you
Starting point is 00:37:36 where you said man if the money was there I may have gone with them or was your mind made up I'm going to go with Jay Z I'm going to go with no I gave everybody that I sat wrong with I had an open door you know I mean we having conversations we talk in business we talking um
Starting point is 00:37:51 just moves you know how we're going to make this happen was anybody super like was did anybody's approach was anyone's approach so memorable that you remember till today were all the same way because you're the guy everybody
Starting point is 00:38:07 wants at the time so they have to have their unique presentations everybody did that's what I'm saying everybody came the way they wanted to come but let's say Shakir Stewart J-Z L.A. Reed we spoke a lot more than just music you know they understand you see the
Starting point is 00:38:25 potato chips you see the champagne of course music was the priority but I just made it clear this wasn't going to be regular. Did I know it would be 20 years later and we would be having this conversation? Of course not. But I knew this wasn't going to be a one album thing.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Did anyone say anything that turned you off? We're like I'll never do business with those guys? Not really. Not really because I was just focused on the things that I wanted and I'm just sure a lot of people ain't understand it i'm sure when i went into flew out to callie and walked in the tom wally mansion i'm sure he was like yo this motherfucker might be crazy because i am
Starting point is 00:39:09 borderline delusional of course i am and if you come in from miami and your record is every damn hustling and you telling the motherfucker y'all right off the rip y'all i need seven figures i'm in your living room and then i'm eating out your snack bar and you know pull me a drink Yo, this Roseanne, they're going to need some tequila. I'm sure that days was, you know, his mom. Yeah, you got rib-eye? Yeah. Was Diddy one of them as well?
Starting point is 00:39:40 That was, because it was everybody at the time. It was everybody at the time, without a doubt. One of my homeboys, Big Block, he had to deal with Diddy for Bad Boy South. And I was on a record. They released, that's Young Jeezie and Boys in the Hood. He had released. to album Boys in the Hood. And I was on one of the records on Boys in the Hood.
Starting point is 00:40:03 So that's what Diddy heard, you know, heard my skills. Niggas was really hearing my flow. It wasn't about popularity. It was really about talent. We didn't have social media. So they playing your records. Let me hear what you're talking about. And once everybody heard me, shit, I was popping.
Starting point is 00:40:19 They understood this was heavy weight. Now when your first release in every day I'm hustling, who owned it? Who owned that one? That specific track. Well, the producers was the runners. My homeboy Josh, Josh Burke, shout out to Josh Burke. He was working along with Ted Lucas and Slipp and Slip and Slip and Slide Records.
Starting point is 00:40:42 I had signed a deal with Slipp and Slip and Slide Records. And so he brought me to beat for every damn hustling. And that night, I wrote the first verse. Trina had a show in Tampa. I drove up to Tampa just to play that rock. record and I wrapped the first verse and I just remember the look that I got from this one individual. A guy looked at me and he had his mouth open and he was just like, damn, do it again. And that's when I wrote the second verse, went home and recorded it.
Starting point is 00:41:16 A week later I released it. So independently yourself. Yeah, I'm still just, you know, slip and slide an independent record label, but, you know, I've recorded it, released it, and shit. Everybody had to catch up at that point. What's the split into revenue at the time? I don't even recall what the split was. Because at that time, I understood it wasn't based on the split
Starting point is 00:41:38 or the percentages then because I was just getting in the door. I just wanted to lock them in and make them commit to support and invest in just a little bit. And I knew once I was, once I released the music that I was capable of making, the big money are coming to play. So that first song, when, and Jay-Z and those guys came and signed you, did they get that song,
Starting point is 00:42:01 or the first song is owned by someone else? No, it was owned by me and Slip and Slide Records. Got it, till today. Facts. And it's still giving you revenue every year of that song. Facts. Do you have an idea what that specific song 20 years later is making? Shit, no, it's still a hit.
Starting point is 00:42:18 It still shakes the arenas. It still shakes. Oh, yeah, it's one of the greatest songs of all time. Yeah, yeah, without a doubt. Yeah, it's not even close. But once you accumulate a cat, Like mine, you're not just looking at one record. You're just looking at the overall vibe.
Starting point is 00:42:33 So pre that song coming out, do you at the time have money in the bank? Are you, you know, you at least have $100,000 on a bank? Do you have $50,000 in the bank or not yet? I was most definitely, you know, that's what I was ride around hustling doing my thing. I had my BMW. I had my crib already. Two-story crib, garage, you know, just, you know, I was doing my thing. but most definitely
Starting point is 00:42:57 once I released the record I got the deal seven figures up front then that entire year I was doing shows three shows a day five days a week stop it yeah
Starting point is 00:43:08 and I was just stacking my money three shows a day five days a week I was on goal good for you everywhere wanting me to stop by if I got booked in St. Louis there will be someone else can you stop by here before then
Starting point is 00:43:23 could you come by here after then Can you come to our restaurant? We'll have you, you know, would you come eat some spaghetti with us? We'll give you 15 cages to have a plate of spaghetti and take the pictures. You know, just all of that. So that first year I went crazy. I stacked my money up. What's the first big thing you bought?
Starting point is 00:43:43 And what's the one thing you bought that was the first dump purchase you made? You know, my whole thing was I liked to dump lumps in the real estate. You know, that was some game, like I said, my mom. and gave me that type of game. So, of course, I always spent money. I always indulged in jewelry and, you know, whips and cars. But for me, it was, it was, believe it or not, valuable investments. Valuable investments.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Right. I got return for my jewels. It became one of those things. People were paying me to come and they, it's almost like they just wanted to look at me and take a picture of me like, yo, this shit is really real. You know what I'm saying? And then when I get the rosé, did you wear that, the d'i, the ring, the dis? You know, it's almost like, yo, it was different.
Starting point is 00:44:38 It was different. It was different. It was different. I was different situation. Before every day I'm hustling, who knew in Miami that there's something that's going to happen with you? I mean, because Miami's got names as well. It's got a lot of good names that came out of here. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Who knew there's something special about this thing? Before every day I'm hustling. Before. Yeah, Luke knew. DJ Caled knew. If you was a local rapper, if you was a local artist, they knew the big boy in the city is Rose. Now, is the country ready for this?
Starting point is 00:45:07 Is the rap game ready for this? Because once again, we come from, you know, a party city. Beats, that's 130 miles. Bitches got on bikinis. Woo! You know, just all of that shit. And I'm talking about getting money. I'm talking about real estate.
Starting point is 00:45:22 I'm talking about mansions. You know what I'm saying? I want jets and shit. I want to do a lot of different. investments, which was, you know, a lot different from the norm. Would you say if Biggie would have lived on, he would have been a dream selling rapper instead of like correcting an injustice like Tupac?
Starting point is 00:45:39 Because Tupac talked about the problems. Biggie sold the dream. You know, they both, to me, they both. You know, they both was the great set, the end of the spectrum, and they balanced the game out. You know, we both, they both made it clear what the value of family was. Also what wealth was like.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Big most definitely, you know, painted that image in that picture, those Versaishi button-ups. And, you know, but at the end of the day, it's about going to get it. So they both was telling you to go and get it. You got to invest in yourself. You got to make it happen.
Starting point is 00:46:15 You know what I mean? Tupac apparently never really made money when he was doing it. He made some money, but apparently he never made a lot of money. At the time, hip-hop was different. Yeah, you know, what was unfortunate to me was the fact that they both were really with kids, man.
Starting point is 00:46:33 You know, you're 23 years old, 24 years old. You know, and I'm speaking for both of them, you know what I'm saying? You lose your life. You didn't give, you, they both were priceless. If they both lived a long, healthy life, they both would be, I'm talking about it's unbelievable how much money they generated. Multiple billions, both are billions and billions and billions. It's a good point because yours first was 30. So probably at that time, you know how the game is played
Starting point is 00:47:01 and how people get taken advantage of. So you're probably tougher to take advantage of than maybe they were. You most definitely got to learn. It's no one that's with you when it's time to talk about, you know, record deal, this, that, this, that. There's no one, yo, you just got to stress the important things to you. You know, you're going to provide the studio. You're going to do this for me?
Starting point is 00:47:24 Yo, just be ready. And in my mind, I already know, yo, I'm going to get a major label to come step into and take over this situation. And we're going to tax them. The local label is cool. I get it. I get it. I get it. So that 30K advance for six albums, I wasn't tripping.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I get it. But what I'm going to do is I'm going to stir and create so much disruption and create so much value where the big boy is going to come in and say, yo, Rick Ross, boom. We're going to get you five million. what you want to do. Who was in your ear? Who was whispering in your ear? Hey, be careful.
Starting point is 00:48:00 They're going to try to do this. Hey, ask for this. Who played a mental role? Nobody really. Nobody cared about that shit. It was about the music. For one, first and foremost, before the record deal even important,
Starting point is 00:48:13 do you really have something that's valuable? Right. Or you would be like the other thousands of artists who get record deals and six months later you never heard from again. You're talking about the one-hit wonder. Yeah, and even the ones that never had one hit, you get a record deal, but you don't have one hit.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Now what? You were fortunate. The one-hit wonders were fortunate that they had one hit. I know so many people that got signed and never had a hit. Now you just move on. So now that's the focus when you're a young artist. It wasn't even about the record deal. I want to make it a fucking record.
Starting point is 00:48:53 and I want to create a record that the fucking world wants to hear. So you are both on the talent side and you're also, you're a triple threat because you have the personality, you got the business experience, and you're a talent. So Jay-Z's one, there's not too many of you guys, that you also have an ear. What's the recent movie that came out by Denzel where he was known as having the best ear in the game?
Starting point is 00:49:17 Right, he was the CEO in the game. Right, A-SAP Rocky, NFL. Right, A-Sap Rocky's in the film. I watched the film maybe a month. What was it called? What was it called? It's highest to lowest. Yeah, which, by the way, interesting because, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:29 and he talks about how he's, but he was not a guy that was a talent. He was just an ear. He would be able to see it. So for you. An executive. An executive, exactly. So how much of it is personality,
Starting point is 00:49:45 how much of it is talent, how much of it is connections, how much of it is work ethic, how much of it is your fashion, how much of it is your look? What would you rank it? When you look at somebody and say, this is a guy, because you've had who?
Starting point is 00:49:57 You've had French Montana. You've had a lot of guys. Right, right, right. What do you look for? I think first and foremost, for me, what's most valuable to me is how dedicated are you? Are you willing to work 15 hours a day
Starting point is 00:50:15 when it's time to? Are you willing to do that? Because you could have the, fashion. You could have the style. You could have the music. But if you're not really dedicated, it won't last. You don't how many artists that's talented and gifted and they're gone. They're gone. And why is that? You got to have a consistent understanding that passion as the burn. Because when I first got in the game, I wasn't the most talented. I wasn't the most this. I wasn't first in this. I was never the person.
Starting point is 00:50:51 this, that, this, that, no. But what I was was the ultimate hustler. We're not going to stop until we get this done. We're not going to stop until we make this shit amazing. We're going to stay inherent until this shit sounds like it's, yeah. So that's what separated me from the others. So that's what I look for when it's time for me to really appraise another artist or look at another artist in the gift and, you know, how consistent are they?
Starting point is 00:51:19 How long does it take for you to be? realize that this guy's got it or not? Not long. Not long. What do you look for? I mean, once you present yourself, yo, that's what I'm here for. This to music, this to this, this to this.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Okay, then the rest of the questions come with it. Do you have the video to go with it? Social media on go? It's who you have a team? Is it just you by yourself? You know, are you already generating income? Can you buy your own outfits? It's a long list.
Starting point is 00:51:49 You're asking all those questions? No, it's just, no. No, you have to, I have to see it. Rose, don't got time to ask you. That's just like if you're walking into the room and you step over the paper on the floor. If you're not going to pick it up and make the situation better, there's no need for you.
Starting point is 00:52:04 I'm not asking you nothing. I have to see it. Are you calling around as well to learn about the individual or no? No, I got to see it. I got to fill it. The street's got to call me. So who's the biggest risk you took on? Shit, everybody.
Starting point is 00:52:22 It's all around. risk because you never know who's going to really break who's going to really pop who's going to really work you might sign a super talented individual and guess what he has twins on the way now he doesn't have time for the studio he doesn't have time for the interviews the podcast to this to that guess what it's call it's over for him unless he goes and prove otherwise but you have to be totally dedicated to this. Did you watch a game last night with Wemby and O KC? I did.
Starting point is 00:52:58 What did you think about Wemby last night? He was cool. He was cool. You're not a, I'm assuming you're not a San Antonio fan. Like, that's not your team. You're probably a heat fan. I'm a heat fan without a doubt, but I thought OKC was going to pull it off.
Starting point is 00:53:14 I thought so as well. Would you think about that three? The three hit from the, I don't know if you saw the three he hit in overtime or in. you know, fourth quarter, Wembe, all the way from the logo. Did you see that or no? I missed that.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Oh, let me tell you, he hit this. He walks up and he just hits it. And they interview him afterwards. Okay, Rob, can you pull up the interview afterwards with Wembe? And there's a reason why I'm asking this question. By the way, the CFO already responded. And he says, Small World. I actually sat with his son at Super Bowl several years ago.
Starting point is 00:53:47 The social media the other day was incredible. He even made Stephen Ross very funny. Okay, half all my friend. God bless. So there you go. So I don't know what that means, but. Yeah. Do you know what he's talking about?
Starting point is 00:53:59 You'll text him again. You'll text him again. Jose wanted to talk about 3%. I just want to let you know. He wants to talk about 3% of the dolphins. That's what he wants to talk about. Yes, yes, yes, yes. All right, so I'll put you guys in contact.
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Starting point is 00:55:11 Your mind at all, knowing that She had got that award and you were in the top three for it. And, you know, did any part of tonight feel personal? Some of your facial expressions kind of look like you were really, really going for it. Yeah, for sure. thing you just said. If that was in your mind at all. So this guy had a chip, because they gave the MVP yesterday to SGA, and he had a pretty good season.
Starting point is 00:55:32 How much does a chip play a role and a guy willing to go until he gets what he wants? Or you don't think there's a... And when you say chip, what exactly do you? Chip on a shoulder. Like you're coming up and somebody didn't believe in you. Somebody said no to you. You know, someone who maybe due to favoritism got something that you felt. you were doing better.
Starting point is 00:55:54 How much does that chip? Like right here, Wembe feels like he's the best player in the world, and he wants to keep getting better. They're the champions. He's the two-time MVP. But he responds this way to say, look, that was it. And then later on, he says, I plan on winning a lot of MVP trophies in my career. But he wants to be a champion right now.
Starting point is 00:56:12 So the DNA, how do you read the DNA of a guy that's willing to pay the price and he's super competitive? Well, Wembe most definitely, played a major role and I'm pulling it off without a fucking doubt. So he's exemplifying him really wanted to chip.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Him really wanted to be great. But once again, just like all ladders of success, he has a lot more to prove. Every room we step in, it's going to be people in that same room that doubt you. Regardless of how many
Starting point is 00:56:50 points you shoot, how many dunks you make, you know, Because the same way he hit that three in overtime, those couple finger rolls he missed, those Caruso took a steal from, you know, it's a lot of people that's going to focus on that. So you still got to prove yourself to everybody that's sitting back watching. And most definitely when you own a global platform, that's what it is. This is a competitive game. It's called life.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Who's the first big name that targeted you When you started getting momentum Who stuck? Because you know there's a lot of beef in rap And you've had many of them You've had 50 cent Drake It wasn't no one that really targeted me It was
Starting point is 00:57:36 It's a good chance I initiated it Got it Right Intentional Yeah Have you ever read the book 40 Laws of Power?
Starting point is 00:57:46 I have I know Robert Green personally Great guy he's a friend He just posted my new book that I just released for me. Thank you, Robert, most definitely. Yeah, I mean, so do you think there's a lot of that going on in hip-hop? 40 laws of power to think he talks about?
Starting point is 00:58:04 It may be a little bit of it, but it'll be a lot more success. It'll be a lot more wealth if they was really focused in the way they should. What do you mean? I mean, there's a lot of fucked up things going on. There's a lot of losses being made. In hip-hop. Of course. Life, period.
Starting point is 00:58:22 But most definitely in hip hop, we see people going to prison every day. We see people losing their lives every day. We're talking about getting to the money or their laws of power, playing by the rules, being great. So you have a rare combination because early on, a lot of, you know, when the story came out, you were a correctional officer for what, the 18 months or whatever you did, 16 months, 17 months, 17 months? No, no, it was shit, much less than that.
Starting point is 00:58:51 But whatever the story was, that shit, they're half a billion late man half a billion late yeah but you have a street life and you have a little bit of that how does that happen that's rosé being the hustler it's not many people that can understand that
Starting point is 00:59:08 I think I actually can because there's an element of understanding the law if you go to it was that the intention originally not at all not at all just hustling It's hustler. I mean, look, I read somewhere that you were making $23,000, $28,000 as a correctional officer,
Starting point is 00:59:33 so it's not like it was paying very well. Oh, man, I was hustling, man. And, you know, that's how hustlers respond to that. It's much deeper than rap, baby. Much, much, much. Tell me more. Tell me when you say much deeper than rap. I'm letting you know that's how hustler.
Starting point is 00:59:56 A boss like myself responding to that. It's not much more to even say. They missed that part of my life. They missed it. The part about the hustling. Oh, man. It's too easy. Which part?
Starting point is 01:00:15 That they missed it or the life was too easy? Oh, they most definitely missed it. Now what they could do is listen to the music. They could read the books and just close their eyes and just imagine. What it was like. Oh, man. on whether, most definitely. Got it.
Starting point is 01:00:35 And how important is the game of hip hop? I came up in L.A. I lived in L.A. 20-something years. So for me, my hip-hop was R.B. L. Pasi, rapping forte, too short. Master Ace. I don't know if you remember Master Ace,
Starting point is 01:00:53 the I-N-C ride, right? It was. Of course, shout out to Master Ace, too. Yeah, he's phenomenal. It was, who's the first member? Mexican rapper that got a half a million dollars from Shug, the East Side Rendezvous. What was his name? My God, I can't.
Starting point is 01:01:10 But Kit Frost. I don't know if you remember Kit Frost. I do remember Kit Frost. It was a lighter shade of brown. If you remember lighter shade of brown, maybe you don't. It was these guys. And on the R&B side, it was, you know. This is La Rasa.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Jodacy. Yeah, this is for La Rasa. That's right. That was a great hit. Right? It was. And there was almost, how big of a role does it play that you have street credit, that you've had that life?
Starting point is 01:01:38 How big of a role does that play? I think, first and foremost, the music is the most important part. Because these, you know, I can only imagine I don't see really a lot of street in the ones that's making. the music. They could discuss it. They can, you know, speak on behalf where they're from, their city, this or that. But as far as the music, first and foremost,
Starting point is 01:02:09 now what goes on behind the scene and how you move, are you really a boss? Are you really, you know, strong enough to be able to make these moves and the streets accept it? You know, that's something totally different. That's something totally different.
Starting point is 01:02:25 So the street accepts the street credit or not? The streets, for me, will most definitely play a role in streets. You understand? The street's going to play a role in the streets. And if you're artists, first and foremost, your music, your craft, and your gift is what's most important. How far you go after that,
Starting point is 01:02:55 That's between you and the streets. Rose, who did you meet in the game? Because you give me the vibes of a very driven competitive guy. Facts. Yeah. Who did you meet in the game where you said, these are the five real OG players. These are the guys I'll be competing with the next couple decades.
Starting point is 01:03:16 You know, for me and the way I move, I necessarily don't even pit myself against or competing against the legends. So to me, that's like me saying I would compete against Big. I would never do that. I don't see you as that. I would never compete against Pock.
Starting point is 01:03:34 I would never compete against Jay-Z. I would never compete against, you know, Luke records in no kind of aspect because that's where I got the game from. You know what I'm saying? That's the love and the respect that I have. But anybody else, it's not really nobody that's on my level
Starting point is 01:03:54 for me to go against. It's nothing to go against. Nobody at your level. No. So you're given the praise to Jay-Z to... The ones who raised me, the ones who showed me the game. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:04:11 Yeah. Yeah, the ones who I really absorb the most game from. You know what I mean? When I was listening to Too Short record, you know, when I run into these dudes, when I just announced yesterday that Scarface is performing at my car show, June 13th.
Starting point is 01:04:29 It's like Scarface, I would never go against Scarface. You know, he got 20 records out. I listened to all of them. I bought them all. Didn't he do something with Tupac? Of course. I got keys coming from overseas, right? No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:04:45 No, that's all lies on me with Tupac. But Scarface and Tupac, what they most definitely did it? Oh, I remember this song. What's the song with him in Tupac? Rob, can you pull up the song Scarface did with Tupac? The moment I hear the lyrics, I know which one it is. Smile. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:05:05 You get a smile. Is that the one? That's the one. That's one of them. Wow. Because they did a couple of them, right? Facts. That's 97.
Starting point is 01:05:12 30 years ago. So you would you consider yourself a fan of the game as well? Like you said, I listen to his. So who do you listen to? Who are people that you listen? to them, maybe they're even current players. I just told you, my playlist is, that's Rose. Old school is where it's just a dope, classic.
Starting point is 01:05:33 You know, I just mentioned, I mentioned DJ Quick earlier. So from the West Coast to the East Coast, of course, all down south. But like, did you listen to Andre 3,000, Outcast? Of course. That's crumbling nerve. You can't, it's nobody that could not listen in Outcast, you know what I'm saying? So that's the greatest albums, those guys, that album. was just another one of those Chadee ones that you just just play it just let it go and it just you can
Starting point is 01:05:57 listen to every song of course yeah trick daddy that's everything my playlist jumped from you know I'm saying my shit is rosé shit special that's just my sound is your playlist public or is it a private playlist I don't even know you got to make your playlist public of course is this PM Dawn? Who is this? Wow. You know what's my favorite? What a great song. It's amazing.
Starting point is 01:06:33 You know what's my favorite PM Dawn song? It's not that one, the other one. What's this one you're playing? This EPMD, please listen to my demo. And for, you know, music lovers like myself, I was young when I heard this and realized there wasn't no kicks, no drums. It was just a loop. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:06:54 I don't even know if it's a song. producers that know that. You got to make your playlist public. My kids love the song. Phenomenal song. The kids are genius. Remember the guy, the skateboard guide with this guy. I don't know if you know which one I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:07:14 That's him, right? He's drinking the grape juice or what drink was he drinking? What a great song. This Rose A playlist. 80s. Good for you. Wow. Phil Collins?
Starting point is 01:07:26 Phil Collins. Yeah. Yeah, Phil Collins just, didn't he just turn 80? I just saw something about Phil Collins turned 70 or 80, something like that. Age 76, yeah, 75. This is all, this is my recent play. This ain't recently searched. This ain't this list that I'm playing from.
Starting point is 01:07:53 This is something that. Recent. Yeah, this is what I'm smoking and riding to on the way here. Folks falling in like rain. So the Rosea playlist is my musical activity. different. Who's your top five? Top five all-time rappers. Big, pop,
Starting point is 01:08:14 Jay-Z, Trick Daddy, 305, Miami, without a doubt. He spoke for the, you know, spoke for the kids. He spoke for the ghetto, of course. And we could, you know, we could debate that. It's too easy. Who's your fifth?
Starting point is 01:08:32 You put Nas in there or you put Andre in there or? I'm going to put, um, I'm happy to say Nas, without a doubt. And when I say Nas' Nas spoke for that that militant street
Starting point is 01:08:49 that wise young hustler you know what I'm saying he was fly with it getting to the money young you know what I mean so it's a lot of things that go with when I say top five and when I say it my top five used to change every week when I'm smoking good
Starting point is 01:09:05 and what I'm feeling like so it is like that do you have a top five 80s not even rap, just 80s music, because you just played an 80s song. I played a lot of 80s song. When you go EPMD, when you go rock Kim, when you, you know, it's just,
Starting point is 01:09:20 it's so difficult for me. Because when I smoke and I lay back, that shit is all magical to me. It's magical in a lot of different ways. Rose, the history with UN 50, is it better now? You guys now friends, like, do you guys talk now, or is it still no relationship? That's a nice alley hoopie.
Starting point is 01:09:41 You just threw me, but... You're going to take it or you're going to pass it back. Oh, I'm a whim by you. I'm a win by you. You're going to win by you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a win by you. I'm a bitch for you.
Starting point is 01:09:52 I got you. But no, homie wash. We've never been cool. From day one. No. No. It's a big business out here, big money. You're not getting none of that.
Starting point is 01:10:06 I'm $1,500 episode payment check. That shit ain't nothing. Never collaborated. together. No. I'm sure he would love a rosé vibe. I'm sure. I told you I'm going to win by yama this bitch for you.
Starting point is 01:10:26 I'm going to jump from the free though. By the way, would there ever be a... You ever saw the interview with Shaq and Kobe together? Do you remember the one where they sat across from each other? I think Magic did one with Isaiah, where Isaiah cried at the end. What he cried for? Well, because, you know, Isaiah, was upset about some of the things that Magic said and he felt like he was cut from the 92
Starting point is 01:10:49 dream team that whole thing you know he didn't make that dream because of Michael that was a special that was a special yeah that was the greatest shit I've ever put together you ever seen this one with Kobe and Shaq no will there ever be a time where Rosey will do a sit down with 50 no this a nice alley-go-head-finish I'm a one by you I'm no I'm a I'm a motherfucking shack this bitch for you Go ahead and finish it. Would it ever happen with you and 50 sitting down having a conversation? I think the world would watch that.
Starting point is 01:11:19 The first thing I would want to know is what is there to talk about? This is a big business you guys are a part of. You guys are two of the heavy weights in the business. I mean, what is that to talk about? A lot of things to talk about. History, the beef. What kind of history that he couldn't dress? That's all I used to tell him, you know, you can't dress.
Starting point is 01:11:38 You're not really getting no money. You don't own your masters. Eminem saved you, Dr. Dre, saved you all the big names. Rose did it himself. I came in through slip and slide. I had to build this myself. And I'm not speaking down on him because he live in a two-bedroom apartment.
Starting point is 01:11:59 He lives in a two-bedroom apartment? Two-bedroom. Catch the alley-hoop now. You got to win by yammer this, bitch. Yes, he does. And if he does, what does that say about him? Come on now. Just the alley-hoo?
Starting point is 01:12:11 Come on now. What does it say about him? You're saying 50 lives in a tube. He just did a big doctor. documentary on Diri that blew up. It was the number one documentary for like weeks. They just used him there, put his name on there, give him 10K, and that's it. He don't own any of that.
Starting point is 01:12:27 You think he's taking 10K for that documentary? What you thought he was getting for powers? Google the actors that was in power. They spoke up. They was getting minimums. Shit is rough. He's taking 10K. Yeah, that TV shit is crazy.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Omar, what did they say? Yeah, what did he say? You let me know. This is your alley-oop now. Don't let me down. Rob, you can't let me down, Rob. Now I'm passing it to you. You got to do the right research.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Don't let me down. Can you go to the story? Let's see what the story says. What they say? There's no way 50's doing stuff for 10 grand. Come on, man. I do know they said they don't pay a lot in this show. Go a little bit lower, Rob?
Starting point is 01:13:07 No, they're talking about the power pay complaints. These are the finalis and all that. Come on, man. But this is what I'm going to do for you, this is a nice alley-hoop. Just because you, you're going to plug me with the dolphins for you. Just because of you, I let 50 wash the bottom of my yacht. You're going to let him wash the bottom of the yacht? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:35 I mean. You're going to be that kind? Only because it's you. Why, your level of kindness is on a whole different level. 100-foot riva. Come on, man. 100-foot riva. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:46 I don't like to see nothing green at the bottom. He gets the scoed, the goggles, the mouth peeve, the fins on his feet, and he could flap like flipper. Wow. Yeah. Listen, I mean, that would be a visual. That would be a good business, wouldn't it be? And you're saying you would pay much.
Starting point is 01:14:06 He would get paid just like if it was power. He doesn't own power. He doesn't own under that. It's 10 million selling album. He doesn't own get rid of it. Richard Dutrine. That's why he doesn't promote it. He makes nothing off there.
Starting point is 01:14:20 But 50's a $200 million guy. Is he not? Stop. Stop. Don't lie. Well, pull it up. Maybe I'm off. I'll correct myself right now.
Starting point is 01:14:28 You have people that really believe in you. Don't threaten the legitimacy of what you have here. Rob, pull it up so we know. Omari said he made $150 per episode. Stop. That's cap. All right. No, that's cap.
Starting point is 01:14:40 You're saying he didn't make the $150 per episode. He said it. I know him. You got on power. owed 50 cent money. What's 50's net worth? I mean, I thought 50 did. Don't do that.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Even though this is an alley-hoop for me, fuck it. Stop. You're saying he's not worth $100 million. No, that was before, you know, the bankruptcy and all that. Pull up the bankruptcy. Let's see what the bankruptcy says. And how much did he lose on his house, the Mike Tyson house? Show me.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Consider a, oh, 50-cent bankruptcy case reopened to consider abuse allegations. Wow. He's abusive. Mr. Ali-Hoop, come on. PBD, come on now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Why do you think he's loved? Why do you think he's loved? Love by who, man? Fans, fan base. Come on now. You don't think 50s love. I mean, both of you guys have had two of the best. biggest hits ever in hip hop.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Come on now. Biggest hits ever in hip hop. Come on now. Let's talk about this abuse in the bankruptcy. The abuse. They said he abused his mother of his son. His son hates him. It's crazy. Pull up something that his son said about him.
Starting point is 01:16:08 No, this was a nice alley-hook. We 20 minutes sent him on 50. It's good. I like you. I like you. We shit, no. Homie. His son, 27 is still asking for child support. Okay. This is who? This is his son?
Starting point is 01:16:23 I don't know, man. I don't know his, you know. I know his younger son. I met his younger son. I took his younger son fishing before. This is when you guys were good? I called him Bruce Leroy. That's something right there, the little Chinese-looking one.
Starting point is 01:16:41 Yeah. Did you say the little Chinese-looking? Yeah, he looked like Bruce Lee. like Bruce Lee Roy. That's what I call him. And you took him fishing. Yeah. And 50 knew you're taking him fishing. I don't know. He may have told his dad. Like, yo, Rosee. You know what I'm saying? Were you guys ever good, the two of you?
Starting point is 01:16:58 Who is son? No, you're 50. No, his, his, the son, mom used to be able to be on Star Island. And so little man I've been there. I got it. Okay. Now I know. I read that story. And when the mom be in the house doing whatever she doing, the little man done out, you know. I got it. He offers to buy 50. So this is great.
Starting point is 01:17:18 I mean, you can. It sounds like. I offered about a son of puppy just because I knew Bruce Leroy. What? Catch that alley hoop now. Yeah. I mean, it is very obvious. You got to catch these out.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Come on. I catch your alleys. I'm telling you. You got to, you can't be afraid of a response from a minion. You cannot be afraid of a response from a minion. Well, listen, for me, remember. It was a pull up what came up something I saw yesterday. that I believe that what he was trying to do,
Starting point is 01:17:52 yeah, Daphne, Joy, was Rick Ross calls 50 cent, Bruce Leroy and says he took him, told you. Yeah, that's not a joke. Bruce Leroy. Isn't that kind? Yeah, very gentle from you. So imagine if, imagine,
Starting point is 01:18:04 if the boss Rick Ross taught your son Bruce Leroy how to put the worm on the hook. Yeah. Shit dope, ain't it? Yeah, yeah. But it's fair to say you guys won't be collaborating anytime soon. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:18:21 your son might want to go fishing. I'm going to put him on the boat. Let him go fishing, man. By the way, how's your relationship with Diddy? I haven't spoken to him. You haven't spoken to him? No. But you guys never had issues, right?
Starting point is 01:18:37 There was no beef between you and Diddy. No. Yeah. I told you my homie block, you know, release music through the puff. And that's who introduced me really to the industry. Shout out the block. Got it. So your, your, so to a guy as a.
Starting point is 01:18:51 outside that's watching in. But the important thing here is 50 cents sun got to fish on Star Island. It's a very important skill set. At a great location. You could fish anywhere. Star Island, those fish I mean, they've got to be
Starting point is 01:19:06 the richest fish in the world. Thank you. Thank you. Reds snappers. You get to see dolphins. The dolphins. King Griffin's billionaire home there. When the dolphins squirt at the top you know, it's almost, you know, they bust a nut at the top of their brain, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:19:23 You get to see that in live, fucking real time. Yeah. Yeah. That was a nice alley-who. You think the market's open right now for a hit-em-up 2.0? Hit them up like what? Like what Tupac did with that, the disc track that changed the game when that came out? I think, no, it's nothing like that that's in that space because big,
Starting point is 01:19:50 And Tupac were both on that same level. Right now, it wouldn't even be exciting because, you know. You don't put 50 at your level. Of course not. He's a minion. Would you put Drake at your level? No. You're not putting Drake at your level.
Starting point is 01:20:10 No, see, you might be, I could see it in your eyes. You might be confused with the numbers and all of the fake numbers, flood the marketplace, 50 something. That shit ain't nothing. Remember what I told you, the streets are the streets. If Drake was what he thought, what you think he was or what he thought he was, he would have been able to clear all this shit up addressing and been moved on. He's still suing the label.
Starting point is 01:20:37 That's like him. He might sue you for speaking of him on this situation. He might sue you. He might send you a cease and desist. That would be a compliment. It's a nice alley-hoo. That's a nice alley-hoop. Let him know.
Starting point is 01:20:48 But if it does, I'll definitely text you and I'll say, we've got to share the legal fees together. Shit, no. Because we would share legal fees together. We'd get the same lawyers. No, no, we won't, man. He might sue you. He sued Lucian Grange. What did Lucian say?
Starting point is 01:21:03 I'm not sure. Lucian is a heavyweight, though. Lucian is a... I know, I know. He's got a little bit dark side to him. When you diss certain people and they can't deal with it emotionally, they're embarrassed, they're humiliated. That's when they sue all of these people.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Do you listen to Iceman, the new... I listened to some of it. My engineer was horrendous. What did you give it? Zero to ten. Oh, man, it was... I mean, Pitchfork gave it. I said it was mid.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Mid meant five. Pitchfork gave it a four point something. I don't know. But it was like, no one's my friend. You left me alone. Oh, my... It's that type of shit.
Starting point is 01:21:46 You got to be a boss out here, man. So nothing that would be in your new playlist that you were showing. Was it in a new playlist? anything in my recent play this? And hear all of them. I don't know if you got to, you know. But have you personally listened to every single one
Starting point is 01:21:59 of the tracks in the new album? No, I couldn't do it. You couldn't do it? No. By which one did you stop? I'm not sure. You got to realize when it was going, it's music people that's on my team that's,
Starting point is 01:22:12 I allowed them to be a, you could be a Drake fan if you like his music. I'm not gonna take, no, I don't put, we're not on that type of shit. Listen to it if you want to listen to it. And I had people. people that listened to it. By the fifth song, they came out, they was like,
Starting point is 01:22:26 damn, this shit wag. And they went back in, listened to it. I'm like, it's not nothing that's dope. You don't hear nothing like Jay-Z and Alicia Keys in New York. I say, you don't hear none of that. You know, this is a motherfucker who always bringing up Michael Jackson. What a Billy Jean at.
Starting point is 01:22:49 What a thriller. What a And my homies Actually sat there They lost an hour of their life For this shit Listen to it Yeah
Starting point is 01:23:00 Are they recovering? Yeah Trauma Trauma It's tough It is It's tough Yeah
Starting point is 01:23:06 By the way When you When you've been waiting After you've seen people Put ice blocks In the middle With places And promoted
Starting point is 01:23:13 And marketed And the world New what day it was Coming out And the shit came out And really You know Folding
Starting point is 01:23:19 How is it performing on the charts, Rob? I'm not tracking how Iceman performing on the chart. Rose, they don't. Yeah, well, let's see. Iceman recorded 140.2 million first-day Spotify streams officially making the biggest album debut in 2026 so far. The figure has placed immediately pressure on competitors and set a new benchmark for opening.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Drake's Janice has reached number one on Apple Music. That shows it's doing okay. showing it's doing pretty good. I don't know what you're reading, but do me in favor and pull up Spotify. Let's go to the real streaming. Pull up Drake, Spotify. That didn't even have a logo, which you was just reading. So you might
Starting point is 01:24:03 be an Iceman fan. I'm not listen to it just so you know. Okay, so how do you go to see where it's ranking? I'm not sure. I'm talking about the articles. That looked like the stream. I don't know. So, Rob, why don't you type in Drake, Iceman, then go to news reviews. You like Drake. You like Drake. You're talking about them.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Just so you know, I will tell you, this is the fun fact about me. I stopped, you know, my hip hop stopped in early 2000. This not hip-hop. He's not hip-hop. No, it's not hip-hop. I like how he used the Michael Jackson glove right around the time the Michael Jackson movie came out. You ride that wave. He knows how to ride a wave, but it ain't working. He does not succeed.
Starting point is 01:24:47 Pitchfork gives you ice man a, a five. 4.8 out of 10. Okay, that's not good. Fans react as pitchfork gives Drake. How point is pitchfork, by the way, when they score you? I don't get in the scores. My music I've always made was in the streets. You quoted them, though.
Starting point is 01:25:05 You said you gave it a mid, but pitchfork gave it a 4-8. Facts. So then that means pitchfork has got credibility in the market. No, I just told you what was online. Okay. I said mid, which was higher. Five. So you were going to be a nicer than pitchfork.
Starting point is 01:25:21 Oh, consider it. Okay. So let me ask you, to you, what is the last hit? Like you said, we haven't had a Michael Jack. We haven't had a New York with Jay Z. No, we haven't had it for a while. When we're talking about big records, you got to understand when you're comparing yourself to Michael Jackson, when you're comparing yourself, deliver it.
Starting point is 01:25:43 He compares himself to Michael Jackson. And when you listen to. people and, yo, play me the best five songs you heard, this or that, then. You hear it, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Does it show ranking on Spotify? I'm actually curious now to see where it ranks on Spotify, how it's done. Oh, they scored a bite 54 out of 10, clash, 54. So based on weighted average score, 50 out of 100 from seven critic scores, doesn't look like a good score to me. That does not look so. So now yours is coming out June 12th. June 12th.
Starting point is 01:26:22 Set and Stone. My new album. Big, huge. Popping Big Boy shit. Rich boy raps. That's a sick cover right there, by the way. Stone, Marble. That is a sick cover right there.
Starting point is 01:26:39 Thank you, OG. No, seriously, that's insane. I saw that when Nigel, I think it was Nigel that brought it in, right? Shout out to Nigel. Nigel somewhere out there. Yeah, Nigel came already. You already know.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Yeah, Nigel came ready. So what should we expect from the new album? Is there anything you can tease us with? He said, tea down. He teased. He walked the tea down. That's the first time we hear the motherfuckers. But no tea.
Starting point is 01:27:08 You know what I'm saying? What it is, though, is big boy shit. Back on the throne, Ricky Rose. They know what I bring. Sound-wise, production-wise, collaboration-wise. And then my, the points that I make. And once again, it's set in stone. And it's challenging to be my best album ever.
Starting point is 01:27:30 So you could pre-order the album right now. Online, set in stone. June 12th. It's on the street. Who to collaborate? Who's collaborating on this? You will be offended. You will be offended.
Starting point is 01:27:45 Facts. Okay. Facts. Any major collaborations in this one? It's always major. Everything I do is major. Big boy shit. My next single, I'm a drop.
Starting point is 01:27:55 It's Living Large, featuring Big X to Plug. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, the sounds, I had my brother, DJ Callet, and Drey from Koolin'ray. They was over. I played a few records for them, and, man, they were so excited. You know, some of the things that we've done, you know what I mean, in the past. And the music that I'm making right now is just, I'm happy the streets get to enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:28:19 You know what I mean? The music I make that shit for the rich-minded. You've got to have a certain mindset. Big boy, yeah. But by the way, what's this story with you trying to climb Mount Kalamajaro? Yeah, I wanted to do something different. So that's what we was talking about at the top of the book. Me doing something different.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Like, yo, let's challenge ourselves. And, of course, it never happened. My doctor said you crazy. Did you start? Did you at least go to it? You know, I've been there, you know, but I've never went up. You know what I mean? Shout out to the homies.
Starting point is 01:28:57 I met there. And I told him I was going to go up to the top of the mountain. And my doctor said, no, you're not going to walk up there to smoke. There's smoke weed and your fucking hip hip out of some shit. So my mom and my sister, they co-signed it, and I was fucked. so he canceled it. So it never happened. By the way, which do you prefer more?
Starting point is 01:29:23 Smoking grass or cutting grass? Because I heard a story about you guys, when you bought the house, you guys had your friends just cutting for two days. Why cutting grass? I love being outdoors. I'm an outdoors man. I have buffaloes.
Starting point is 01:29:36 I have cows. I have dogs. Did you say you have buffaloes? Facts. You see, I put on my cowboy hat. I got on Amex 95s with a hoodie on. with a G-shock watch on. I probably got 10 joints rolled up.
Starting point is 01:29:51 You see that track that I put tents on it. I hooked my blue two up. My blue two up, that shit is over. Can you imagine what it's like? I'm a John Deere champion. Did you say Buffaloes? You literally have Buffaloes in the property. Big time.
Starting point is 01:30:08 One of my Buffaloes done got away. Wait, your Buffalo got away? Like it left the property. Yeah. Jumped. Boom, broke the top half of the gate, jumped out. My neighbors, they had the call, you know, and I had to send my homies over there to go get my buffalo.
Starting point is 01:30:24 How do you get a buffalo back? That's it, right there. That's my buffalo. Does you have a name? Timbuktu. Timbuktu. That's a good name. Y'all, look at this shit here.
Starting point is 01:30:42 So look, that's one of my cows. One of my cows was with the buffalo. So I love being out. outdoors, you know, so I cut grass. I thought you were joking about that. No, if I have the time, I cut grass, I ain't had time in the last year, but I don't cut trees down, grass, all that shit. Yeah, Julius was telling me, he's got livestock. I'm like, what are you talking? I says, yeah, this guy's got animals here. So it's a 32, 22 acre property,
Starting point is 01:31:09 54,000 square feet of living space, 109 rooms, movie theater for 135 people, dining room to accommodate 100 guests, bowling alley, recording studio, baseball field, court, handball court, seven-stall barn, and a 350,000 gallon swimming pool. Why buy such a small house? Great investment. Bought it for $5.9 million. Last time it was appraised, it was over 30. I filmed over, what, three dozen films. It got to the point where we began charging the scouts just to come look. So it's three films on the property. How many? It's been in three films, you said?
Starting point is 01:31:53 Oh, well, shit. Damn that, three dozen. Three dozen films. Facts. So many different places you could film, different angles you could film from. Now, this is Evander's old house. Evander Holyfield's former crib that he built for $25 million. And it's 54,000 square feet?
Starting point is 01:32:11 Was it $46,000 square feet or 54,000 square feet? 55. $55,000. I got to get these numbers. Catch that alley, who? Man, you got to. to catch it. Yeah, you know, there's another guy that built a house in Atlanta
Starting point is 01:32:23 as well. His name is Hubert Humphrey. I don't know if you saw his house. He built it in once say, coming Georgia. If you go to the images, go to the second one, Rob. He's got another. So there's a lot of big houses there, but the one you're in, you're saying, is the biggest house in Georgia. I'm not
Starting point is 01:32:39 sure. I never even heard of this script right here. Yeah, that's another one. Not that guy. I don't know what that guy's. Maybe that guy's the bankruptcy attorney or something. But this was a, I got a tour of this house. in 0708. It was also a nice house. Do you prefer being down here
Starting point is 01:32:55 or do you prefer being up there in Georgia? It depends on the time of the year. Once the hurricanes come here, I'm different. I'm in a different spot. You head up to Rob. Can you go to his house? Type in images of the house?
Starting point is 01:33:06 Rick Ross. No, no, Rick Ross House. Because it's a ridiculous property. That doesn't even look like a house. How often you throw parties at this place? I'm assuming you've had some really big ones. No, without a doubt. Without a doubt.
Starting point is 01:33:25 For my 40th, I know I spent a half a million. For my 40th, I had an amazing event. But the car show now is, that's what a car show looked like. Holy shit. That's a car show? Yeah. Yeah, and this is it, right? I've had over 10,000 people.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Yeah, that's the car show. Facts. 10,000 people come to the house. It's going to be crazy. June 13th. Get your ticket. is right now, you better come to Atlanta. For the car show. Of course.
Starting point is 01:33:55 It's going to be next level. Big boys. Big boy shit. Rose, now when you're doing business and you go into the room, like if you were to give other business guys advice, okay, how important is it building a brand that drives attention to the businesses you run? That question almost sound unbelievable. You don't even ask me. Repeat that again?
Starting point is 01:34:27 So how important is it? to build a brand, personal brand, to help bring attention to the businesses you're running or owning? Well, it depends on who's, who are we speaking about. Everybody's not great at being a personal brand. You know, everybody's not great or meant to be up front, leading to charge.
Starting point is 01:34:49 So sometimes it's best for certain people to fall back. But in my situation, me being a voice of the brand is always a great thing. Right now I have over time. 30 plus partnerships. I'm celebrating 20 years in the game and I'm still excited about the music. We still chastising the minions.
Starting point is 01:35:09 We still shooting threes from Halfcourt. Yeah, and when I throw you to Ali Hoot, you got to win by Yammer. And by the way, I saw something. I saw you said you have 3,500 songs that you still have not released. Is that the number? Am I saying the correct number?
Starting point is 01:35:26 I don't know. I read it somewhere there. You said 3,500 songs that has not been released to the public. I have laptops and laptops, hard drives and hard drives. How does the song selection work out? How do you say this doesn't make it? Is it like a process of elimination? It's whatever feels, you know, who gives me that fulfilling vibe.
Starting point is 01:35:51 It's not about no, who produced it. It's not about who's on it. What do I play and I stand up and I just. jump up right then. That's what we keep. But is it like 25 of them and then you cut to 24, then you go to 22, then you go to 14. Is it kind of like that? It's kind of like that. It is like that. Okay. And then do you rank it? And is there, is there a number to pick the best song? Is it the fourth song is typically the best one? Is it not the first one? No, no, no. Nothing like that. And that's just for the audience to decide. Yeah, it's for the audience to decide, you know,
Starting point is 01:36:29 what they love and appreciate the most. You know what I'm asking, though, right? Like, do artists pick the one, like, let you say you're doing an album, and every day you hustle and say is the best song, and you know it's going to be the best song? Do you put that in six? Like, you know, baseball, there's a cleanup hitter,
Starting point is 01:36:45 and you put nothing like that with music. It's a body of work. What feels the most natural, what feels the most authentic, what goes together the best, what helps paints the picture of what we're trying to do here. It's bigger than just one record, two records.
Starting point is 01:37:04 Yeah. This is a full body of work, and that's the way I approach it. And then you let the audience decide which one becomes a hit. They ultimately going to determine what's the hit. You can't tell them. Do you already kind of personally sit there and say,
Starting point is 01:37:20 I think out of the record that's coming on June 12th, I think these three are the ones that are most excited. Without a doubt, you most definitely hear some shit and you say, hey, boy, this shit, crazy. I can't wait to see what the response is. Yeah, when I talk like that, that's usually what that is. So there's going to be some disc tracks at some people in the album that's coming out.
Starting point is 01:37:40 Some names will be called that in the album that's coming out. It's a good chance. It's a good chance. Yeah, it's a good chance. Is there going to be like a Leroy in there, Bruce Leroy type of thing or no? Oh, that was a nice alley hoop right there. 50 cent. You saw he threw me to alley hoop about your son.
Starting point is 01:37:59 Yeah. That's a nickname. Bruce Leroy. Yeah. That should be a song title. Could it be? It might not be too late. It might not be too late.
Starting point is 01:38:17 It might not, man. Two last questions before we wrap up. You ever see these guys online that do watch reviews? You ever see these watch review guys? because you're a watch guy facts what's your favorite watch like if you have a watch where
Starting point is 01:38:39 do you have one with do you have a big watch collection I have a nice timepiece collection I do over 50 over 100 because you got 100 cars is it the same with watches or not really I got a lot of watches I do
Starting point is 01:38:51 is there a favorite one you got the vibes change is there one that shows up more often than others usually the ones that I like most I rarely wear. It's sometimes pieces to me that just go with the daily bounce. Is there a specific brand?
Starting point is 01:39:15 Are you a Rolex guy or a Hublo guy? Are you a Petek guy? Are you an AP guy? I got all of them. What's the favorite one? It's not really a favorite. That's what I'm saying. It's kind of like, yeah, it's a vibe.
Starting point is 01:39:29 You know, what restaurant are we going to? What we travel into? How long we'll be going? This is a paddock. Ice down. Big time. Big time. Bus down.
Starting point is 01:39:45 So, you know, it's funny. The guys earlier, they're like, Pat, you know, this is the third Rick Ross you've had on your podcast. I said, third, who are the other two? I know one of them. One of them is Freeway Rick Ross. But apparently we had a Rick Allen Ross, who was on the podcast about a year ago, who was a cult deprogrammer, where people who join cults,
Starting point is 01:40:08 he deprograms people from having joined a cult, okay? But there was about a period of my life that I kept bringing people on because I wanted to find out who killed Tupac. So I brought on Freeway Rick Ross. I don't know what it was, probably 10 years ago. I did a podcast two times with him. And he came on and we spoke, and your name came up.
Starting point is 01:40:30 Wednesday, because the lawsuit he tried to sue you twice. I've never seen somebody try to sue somebody twice. Is it true that at the end of the lawsuit, he had to pay for your legal fees? He wasted a lot of people time. I hope he's coping with the crack addiction that he's been dealing with this whole time. I hope your listeners,
Starting point is 01:40:57 I hope you didn't disappoint your listeners, listening to that shit. I just hope. I just hope, man, you got to keep, you got to maintain a certain level of quality and you've let, you've allowed it to dip to a few times. To put him on.
Starting point is 01:41:15 I mean, you should go and look at your, go look at your ratings, pull up the ratings. Type in YouTube, Rick Ross, Bedd David. Let's see how he performed. I don't know actually how he performed, but let's look it up. Let's look it up. Type in Bit David and Rick Ross.
Starting point is 01:41:28 Watch the cult guy come up first. 1.6 million. the cult guy you get no but right there that's freeway Rick Ross was what six years ago click on that I think you performed pretty well it did okay 1.6 million
Starting point is 01:41:45 you want to go to the comment section let's see what the audience said I'm trying to see I'm giving you my last alley hoop and I'm trying to see what you're going to do with this one it's not an alley hoop this is if you don't respect everyone then you're disrespecting yourself this is
Starting point is 01:42:01 like this man Informance slash crackhead Was he the reason why you named yourself What you named yourself or not at all Was there any influence there He's a crackhead What are you talking about? Pull up crack
Starting point is 01:42:17 Pull up smoking crack Free wave smoking crack This is what you should be talking about On your Him smoking crack You let me down You're disappointing me Because
Starting point is 01:42:26 Where's the crack pull it up I don't see it pull up their headlines you're saying now we're back in the days because we know back in the days he had issues we don't know nothing
Starting point is 01:42:49 I'm asking to pull it up I'm asking to pull it up where's the facts we're talking facts when he sued me he had to admit the facts about him being an informant cooperating with this and that
Starting point is 01:43:04 we know that we talked about that That's not something that we don't know. That's what people are talking about. Oh, that's why the interview did well, because we specifically talked about that. You had a big role in that. You ain't mentioning it to me. Oh, no, no.
Starting point is 01:43:16 The question I asked is. That he was abusing crack. Yeah. I'm sure he came and lied to you and told you he made $3 million a day, and he never, did he ever show you a home? No. Did he ever show you a home?
Starting point is 01:43:30 He said he owned. Did he show you his car collection? Did he show you his watch collection? What the three million? million dollars a day. Where was it going to? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It's PBD. Your listeners deserve better. This is Ricky Rose. Did he at all inspired the name, though? That's the only question. I thought I've answered that three times. I don't think you did. I think you went to crack. And I know he had the crack issue. Why would a crack hit? Introduce it to a lot of young kids and it was a bad thing.
Starting point is 01:43:59 Why would a crack hit inspire the boss Rick Ross to want to be the influence? form it. That's not, no, that's why the lawsuit failed. So the two of you guys have never spoken, one-on-one. Brother, you lowering the standards of the interview now. We can't focus on crack. If I ran a poll. We can't focus on crack. I have a car show coming out there.
Starting point is 01:44:27 So huge. If I ran a poll. If I ran a poll. Which will do that. And by the way, we're going to plug every one of those things. Thank you. The chips. I'm going to eat the chips. I'm going to plug all this stuff in. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:44:39 But if I did a poll, Rose, respectfully, if I ran a poll and I said, give me five topics you would want me to ask Rick Ross, right, the boss, you, the guy that has one of the greatest hits of all time, one of the top five would probably be the feud with 50 cents, which you delivered. You didn't hold back. Respect. one of them would probably be your coming up and what you did with your story of going from where you were at to your winning done. Probably people are going to ask that name Freeway Rick.
Starting point is 01:45:13 If I asked, Rogan had Rick Ross on it. That question was brought up. If I asked Joe Rogan, the five questions about when it comes to having guests and speaking on success and not just trying to get black, you know, yeah, let me get some real ones. Yeah, man, y'all got to have some real ones really on your platforms. Not no shit 40 years ago where nobody's proving anything.
Starting point is 01:45:47 It's time to really, that's the difference about, you know, the social media and what's real and what's not. These motherfuckers will wake up and show you they drip check and their jeans and their jackets. No, show us what your TV sit on. wall like what you living like yeah show us that that's what i want to see i don't want to see that imaginary where your beer companies at where your beers at we're going to have some beer today at this time where's the books at where's the it's the difference between the real deal and when it's just cap so i see it every day i enjoy it you see it you laugh but when it's time for the real deal, the real shit.
Starting point is 01:46:37 When they want to know how Ricky Ross, you know, how you really pull off the big boy jets, the big boy moves. My dentist, shout out to Dr. Mario Montoya. You know, there's people out here that freeway Rick Ross, he could have used the teeth cleaning. Did you offer him a teeth cleaning? I should not. Heavy plaque.
Starting point is 01:47:00 You think so. Oh, man. That's what I'm trying to tell you. But you guys never met him. I got a dentist office. we actually was during a lawsuit. Yeah, he reached out to shake my hand and I didn't shake his hand. He said it in an interview.
Starting point is 01:47:16 He said he called you in, oh wait, and he sent him. Sometimes you guys called him. He said, and you offered to help him or something like that. That's, stop. Big cap. If I offered to help him, why would he sue and not get nothing? Come on, man. You got to be smarter than that.
Starting point is 01:47:37 It's not even realistic. He filed a lawsuit based on some shit on some shit that wasn't even real. But when you cooperate your whole life, that's all you know. We kicked them to sleep and we moved on about our business. And now we're enjoying South Beach brew beer. Can we try some chips? Is that okay with you? Let's try beer and chip.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Do it. Set it up. I'm good with that. Thank you. So Rick Ross, sweet chips, lemon. and pepper, Rob, I want you to try it as well. Come on, Rob. He always called you, Rob, whenever he get put in a tight space.
Starting point is 01:48:22 No, this is not. I'm comfortable. You got a little uncomfortable with Rip Cross. I was asking a simple question. You got a little uncomfortable. No. When you keep speaking on minions, when you speak to a rich boss, you're speaking on minions and this shit is on minion time.
Starting point is 01:48:39 Oh, my God. At some point, I got to say, yo. Oh, my God. Rob, come try, I'm telling you. Paul Rob. This is a sign that I'm getting nervous. I want you to try some chips according to. You know that Asian girl that eats and she put your mouth by the mics you can hear it?
Starting point is 01:49:03 Rob, how good is it? Oh my God, pause, pause, pause, pause, so congrats. I like this a lot. What can people find this? Is this at the stores or is it a link they got to go to? Shout out the rap snacks. You know, this was one of the brands I reached out to, just letting them know. I like what they was doing, and we did a quick collaboration.
Starting point is 01:49:28 Shout out to James Lindsay Raps next shit shot through the roof. Must try. Delish. Thank you. Must try. So album coming out in three weeks. Thank you. This is our role boss's move.
Starting point is 01:49:41 We celebrating the Port of Miami 20 year anniversary tour. We kicking that off. POM20.com. POM20.com. for more information on that. So there's going to be an event that people can go to for the release of the... Live orchestra, live orchestra, live choirs.
Starting point is 01:50:03 Go a little bit lower-rap? Big suits, tuxes, big diamonds. Then the car show, of course, we have our beer going on, slippery soap. The list, man, I just closed the deal. I'm now a part owner of Easy Field. So what we do is pull up to your crib and we bring the gas station to you.
Starting point is 01:50:25 That's a jet, that's a yacht. Your cars, go ahead, pull up that easy feel for me, please. So we actually closed this situation maybe last month and I began promoting it not even maybe a week ago. I actually want to see what this looks like, Rob. Type in Easy fill. Is it with a Z or E-A-S-Y? Easy.
Starting point is 01:50:52 Not E-Z-E. It's easy as E-S-E-E-E-E-E. E-A-S-Y. Easy. F-I-L-L. Oh, easy. The letter easy. There you go, Rob.
Starting point is 01:51:00 Rob was a spelling champion. Ninth grade. You see that? Oh, wow. Thank you. Thank you. So this is you. Perfect teeth, beautiful home, nice cars,
Starting point is 01:51:12 great clothes, beautiful watches. Now you get it. All right. And it's only one way you make it to this. That's when you remove the minions from the conversations. You see this? We can fuel your boat up, fuel your fleet up.
Starting point is 01:51:27 your wife doesn't have to worry you about getting a Chanel snatched at the gas station at 10 p.m. or being followed home by, you know, it's fun. And that's what makes me who I am. I'm having fun doing this shit. I love it. And I'm going to make that intro to the CFO of Dolphins. If that ever gets announced, we know where it started. Of course.
Starting point is 01:51:50 Rose, appreciate your brother coming out. This was great. Man, I can't wait to be back. My man, I look forward to it. I look forward to it. And if the day for the release was another day, I would have been with you because June 11th, I'm getting a surgery on my ACL,
Starting point is 01:52:05 but I wish you nothing but the best. Man, fuck that ACL. Push that shit back, man. Honestly, I'm being serious with you. I pushed it back so many times. It's not even fun. It's out of meaning this morning. Like, how much more time we've got to push it back?
Starting point is 01:52:17 I got to get it done. Anyways, gang, go visit, go order the book. Go to all the links will be below, Rob. Whether it's the book, the chips. I just had the chip. Honestly, I'm not even sarcastic. It's incredible, the chips I just had. And you can also go pre-order the album as well that comes out June 12th.
Starting point is 01:52:34 June 12th, set in stone is everywhere. The book is out now. The car show is June 13th. The Port of Miami 20-year celebration tour is kicking off May 29th right here in Miami. So we having a lot of good things going on, man. There you go. We can't miss nothing. There you go. Take care, everybody. Bye-bye, bye-bye. Too easy.
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