PBD Podcast - Home Team | PBD Podcast | Ep. 193

Episode Date: October 11, 2022

In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Tom Ellsworth, Jedediah Bila, Vincent Oshana & Adam Sosnick for a Home Team Special. Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution... list Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Okay, so if you are live here with us. This is episode 193 we are doing this on vitamin calm Because YouTube gave us a strike for the interview we did with Richard Gage I want to say and For hate speech 9 11. We're disputing it right now We've already appealed that we're gonna see what's gonna happen typically when we get these strikes We appeal it's gets resolved fairly easily and quickly. We don't have issues with YouTube over the years,
Starting point is 00:00:28 every once in a while, when we did some stuff during COVID, they took some of those things down, which is fine, but right now, we are here on the website. And so if you're watching this, because you came afterwards, or because you saw a tweet, or a text, or a Facebook, we are still doing a live and we have our cast here today to talk about current events, it's home team here today.
Starting point is 00:00:51 We got the great jet with us, we got BizDoc, we got the man that went viral last week for his comments about Iran and women that some say he is fighting more for a woman of Iran than many women in Hollywood are fighting for women in Iran, which is kind of interesting to see that happen with our Assyrian, Vinny Air Force, Oshana. And to my right, we have sauce, talks money,
Starting point is 00:01:16 Adam Sossang in the house. Yeah, great podcast you had yesterday. I thought it was great, man, for Iran. I learned a lot about Iran. I learned a lot about the issues that's going on over there. We can be below. It was great to see the exchange with how, you know, Iranians on one side look at Iran and issues versus other side.
Starting point is 00:01:34 And then the panel did a great job, Paulette, Morteza, Nuzani, Nua, it was a great part. You got to give a shout out to Paulette, shown up. I don't know if she's ever been on a podcast before. She was killing it. I thought she killed it. Something in the bad David Bludge.
Starting point is 00:01:46 And he was doing all that. He was, he was, bro, you want to know knowledge that got Andy to break your neck. Exactly, why didn't you ask him? I know about him. You know about him, right? He's the only one who's like your neck. Dude, he shook my hand in the break,
Starting point is 00:01:56 and I'm not joking. He had rings on it, I didn't. He crushed, how did he, I actually went, how did things work out with you and the nice lady that was right here. I thought you had strong feelings about her. And listen, all due respect, I a beautiful girl and I guess I'm so rightly in it that the moment I heard
Starting point is 00:02:14 she was like, oh, I support all these things on. I love CNN, my body just went. So you're so rightly in it, you're blind. I'm not so ready for that. You can't even fall in love with a beautiful Iranian girl. I can't not have the problem. That's the problem, America. And then the new, the race, you can't even, you can with a beautiful Iranian girl. I can't not have the problem. That's the problem in America.
Starting point is 00:02:25 And then the new erase, they can't even, you can't not go. She's actually donated to be, I was like, you donated to all these organizations and now everybody wants to run it. By the way, this is actually a very good question and a good topic for you to talk about on your show. It is, what increases the chance of a relationship working out?
Starting point is 00:02:44 Similar faith or cynical political beliefs, meaning, a Christian marries a Christian, but one's a socialist, one's a capitalist. Does that work out? Or a Christian marries a, I don't know, a Jew, but they both believe in capitalism, they're both conservative, which marriage is gonna work out?
Starting point is 00:03:01 I mean, that's like, well, to the left politics is a religion. So that becomes, you know, a separate component, well, to the left politics is a religion. So that becomes, you know, a separate component, but folks on the left, they treat their politics like religion. So I dated one of the first guys I dated was an economics professor who was hard left makes Bernie Sanders look conservative. It was a disaster because you don't have a shared sense of values. You don't see the world the same
Starting point is 00:03:21 way. I was very young. I was 19 years old. So it lasted two and a half years. But if he was the professor, Jeff. If I were, yeah, if I were not, if I were a girl, that sounds illegal. That sounds illegal. Listen, you're gonna turn this into sauce cans. I'm gonna turn this into sauce cans. I'm using your words.
Starting point is 00:03:36 He was a professor. He was a professor. You're 19 year college student. Sounds inappropriate. I just, I will. Well, you know. I can only imagine how many times does this happen, Pat?
Starting point is 00:03:44 We're like, a couple's in bed and they're like, baby, I love you. Like, you know. I can only imagine how many times does this happen, Pat, where like, couples in bed and they're like, maybe like, I love you, like, what do you wanna do tomorrow? I'm gonna get punched, but before that, we're gonna go right and vote. Who you voted for? Biden, get the God of the house. You know what's happening?
Starting point is 00:03:56 Get out of the house. Shoot out. It's like that clip where the boyfriend and the girlfriend are wrestling and he's, you know, tickling her and all of some bumps. She lets one go. And you see the clip is like, you go here's your back yeah right 100% you're voting for tomorrow yeah 100% it's got to go here's a part though
Starting point is 00:04:13 what to me is that it's interesting is that the conversations can be had because here's what I've learned the more people from both sides talk to each other the more goes like this I agree that's all it is the more both sides talk to each other, the more goes like this. That's all it is. The more both sides talk, there's going to be a pulling on both sides as it takes place. Anyways, let's get into the topics. Okay, one of the topics we talked by yesterday, that some actually believe it was debunked by snopes and it's the PayPal issue, which was very, very interesting when we talked about it yesterday. So, what pages it on here? On the PayPal store, do you have it or do you not have it here on PayPal? Let me see, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I don't think you have. I don't think you have. I checked the site with PayPal. That's right, page seven. So PayPal comes out a couple days ago, and this is a story. PayPal user agreement, agreement finding users up to $2,500 of promoting misinformation was sent in error. Spaks says the updated PayPal acceptable use policy effective November 3rd included an expansion of prohibited activities, which
Starting point is 00:05:19 includes the ending posting or publication of messages content, or materials that meet certain criteria. According to the updated PayPal user agreement, the company states that each violation could result in liquidated damages of $2,500 per violation, which would be withdrawn directly from their account. However, when contacted by Fox Business, a PayPal spokesperson said that the acceptable use policy notice went out in error, and that the company will not find users
Starting point is 00:05:49 The information which by the way here's what I want you to do because of what was said yesterday go So so if we can get the camera on to show this this is why she thinks it's fake because Google is real time Editing the search engine results. Yeah, this is why you don't use Google. This is straight up propaganda. Go to explain to you what you mean by this, though. Explain to you what you mean by this. So they did this first with Robert Malone and the theory he had about, oh, son of a guy can't get the idea. Taking the mass formation psychosis.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Yeah, yeah. It was when they first started doing this. What this says is they are editing the search results real time. It looks like the results are lower changing quickly. If the topic is new, quote unquote, it can take time for reliable sources to publish information. Check the source. Are they a trusted topic? Come back later. Other sources might have more information. Yeah, I'll find out.
Starting point is 00:06:37 But by the way, let's go to snopes. Click on snopes because you've got to see what snopes say. So zoom in a little bit so everybody can see it. So the article says what? No. PayPal isn't planning on finding users $2,500 for posting misinformation. So the average person doesn't read the entire article to see what's being said. They only read the top. But as you go lower, you'll see who? Let me read the top. Hang on. I want to read the soul thing so the audience sees it. Here's what you should know about a since deleted document supposedly outlining changes to the platform user agreement. Goal of lore.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Supposedly. Yeah, exactly. And October 22nd, the document of providing advanced notice of changes to PayPal user noticing included a new rule about misinformation on the app, spurring news headlines and message to snopes asking what exactly the perpetrated change would mean, the document outlining paypal's acceptable, such and such agreement, sending posts,
Starting point is 00:07:29 and we just read that to you, and a $2,500 fund we read that to you as well, watched the however part, and then look what happens from there. However, users concerned about the, how do you pronounce that reported? Perported, change can relax. No such provision can relax. No such provision about misinformation
Starting point is 00:07:47 is actually being added to the service user agreement according to a PayPal spokesperson. And in email to snopes, the spokesperson said that document didn't accurately reflect upcoming changes to the platform policies. So again, most people, 80% by that time when they read it, I told you it's fake, it's not really happening. They don't finish the entire article and AUP noticed for the US recently went out in error that included incorrect information. PayPal is not finding people for misinformation
Starting point is 00:08:15 And this language was never intended to be inserted in our policy. We're sorry for the confusion. This has caused Connect the dots for me. What is misinformation? I assume that has to do with social media, Twitter, Instagram, but think about PayPal. But think about exactly. There's, I'm trying to connect the dots. The whole question you have to ask is, why the timing now when it's three weeks away from what?
Starting point is 00:08:39 What event is the connection to? Elections, so keep going. It's unknown if or to what extent other portions of the document were indeed upcoming changes to the plan. It's unknown. What do you mean it's unknown? It was publicly released. Additionally, we asked PayPal for an explanation of how
Starting point is 00:08:54 and why the erroneous language about misinformation on the app was posted, but we received no reply. Okay, who's gonna read all the way here, but we received no reply apart from the boiler plate statement coded above as of this Writing PayPal has deleted the entire document from its website Nonetheless enough people had already seen it or heard of it creating the social media campaign. Okay, so now watch this
Starting point is 00:09:17 David Marcus. It's hard for me to openly criticize a company. I used to love and gave so much to but PayPal's new AUP goes against everything I believe in. A private company now gets to decide to take your money if you say something they disagree with. In Sanity. FYI, I do you know who that guy is? He's the former president of PayPal and you know who else he is? Hardcore liberal. He's followed by all the main liberal folk. This is not a Republican. This is not a conservative. This is somebody that's on the left. Okay, who said this? Then right below Elon Musk says agreed. Keep going. Kevin Jenkins, every company has the right to be woke and I have the right to boycott these pathetic companies. PayPal account closed. Go to the next one. There's more, by the way,
Starting point is 00:09:57 on the bottom. So now here's what I want you to do. Go to stock market. And let's look at PayPal stock. How did on Monday? Oh, yeah, this is just I've been PayPal stock Probably pal See this we got my see this one day They lost five billion dollars yesterday. Wow. Just so you know that PayPal lost five billion dollars just Yesterday not to have a PR you know You know why you know why because you were. And FYI, here's what's crazy. PayPal stock right now is what?
Starting point is 00:10:27 $84, give or take, $84.52. You know what it was a year ago? 273. Oh, damn. From 273 to $84.52. So when I posted this on Twitter, a guy commented and he said, you know, this is the problem with capitalism. You guys have such a hard time with, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:45 people who, this company, who decide to do this kind of stuff. Who cares if they want to take this position? You don't have any, and I said, well, I see here's what I said. I said, you're right. You are right. They get to do this. But the audience of Disney, when Disney went, whoa. Yeah, what happened?
Starting point is 00:11:01 The stock dropped 25%. However, when Nike defended Colin Kaepernick and signed him, you know what happened to Nike the next week? Oh, we stopped. Blue up. So in a good way, the point being, we're going to find out it may be a good move for PayPal. The next day we found that, it was a big move
Starting point is 00:11:21 caused on five billion likes. So what are your thoughts? When you see something like this, Jada, what do you think about this? Interesting comment you made, because a lot of people will say things like that. So what are your thoughts? When you see something like this, Jada, what do you think about this? Interesting comment you made, because a lot of people will say things like that. They'll say, oh, if you're a capitalist, then these businesses have a choice to do these things.
Starting point is 00:11:32 And I think that people, when people hear that, they think of like a mom and pop shop. Oh, it's a small business, they make a decision. Okay, that's not what's going on anymore. When we talk about the system, we're talking about these big companies that are holding hands with each other, holding hands oftentimes with big government, holding hands with big institutions like Big Pharma.
Starting point is 00:11:52 They're all together. So this isn't just like PayPal is some small company over here or Disney's some small company over here. No, these are big established companies, large Facebook, Twitter, PayPal, YouTube, whatever it may be, they all get a top-down message from the top, from the system, often holding hands with big government establishments, often holding hands with big pharma because big pharma lets face it, funds a lot of these media organizations, often holding hands with big media, that means network television to
Starting point is 00:12:19 disseminate a certain message. So this isn't just like, oh, it's a little company over here doing what it wants. You can still hold the position that it's a private company and they're entitled to do what they want and look what happened. PayPal tank, but you need to understand that there's a larger thing going on here. And these people are holding hands and there is one message that gets disseminated from the top and then they all trail it out. And all you need to look at everyone is look at all of the wars that were waged on misinformation. And I say that in quotes over the last two years. All those people got blacklisted. They got suspended. They got pushed off social media. And oftentimes what they were saying actually wound up being true. So just understand that there's a bigger paradigm going
Starting point is 00:12:58 on here than just a little business saying, oh, I'm going to make my own decisions as much bigger than that. Yeah, Jets, somebody in the Democratic Party was like, listen, it's November's right around the corner. We got to make this change. And from going to you, Adam, just recently on a bunch of things that I'm just signing up for even monetizing on Instagram, the first thing they default to is, hey, you have to get paid to PayPal unless you want a different, like you want to put your bank account, which
Starting point is 00:13:19 people never, I don't know, I put on my bank account. Everything goes through PayPal. That's why it's so connected. Because if they're going to, if I say something accidentally wrong that I've posted, like you said, I read a headline, I don't read how to put in my bank account. Everything goes through PayPal, that's why it's so connected. Because if I say something accidentally wrong that I've posted, like you said, I read a headline, I don't read the whole article, you're gonna find me $2,500. Like where is that gonna come get?
Starting point is 00:13:32 Because that's connected to my bank account. I'll tell you one thing that what I agree with Jed, which said, here's what I learned from the Tate interview, is we talk about the system and basically how there's this sort of spider web of who controls the top is when we were interviewing Tate and Madrid and he goes to get a first I got canceled by all the big tech companies, right? All the big social media companies Twitter and Instagram met I came first and then YouTube and then TikTok and
Starting point is 00:13:55 Then it didn't stop there and then it happened to be the PayPal's of the world and the credit card process of the world But it didn't stop there all of a sudden, it's Uber and Airbnb and Discord. I'm like, what? How do all these things get interconnected? And I was basically joking, like, don't you think they're all basically on like a WhatsApp chat together, a text message thread together? And the answer was like, yeah, they probably are.
Starting point is 00:14:19 They are. So there you go. Tom, what do you thoughts on this? Well, you've got an election coming up and the tech universe is still reeling over what they feel was Facebook misplaying the election for Trump. And if you look inside tech, they're still very critical of Zuck and Metta
Starting point is 00:14:39 about Trump's election. There's a lot of criticism that goes there. And so they're scared to death of all things social and they're scared to death of equal time. True equal time results in voters moving. And I believe this was an intentional step that they were trying to influence and take a position against the other opinion, the other side, equal time. And I think they got burned in a nanosecond. I think it's a simple, simple as that.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Simple as that for this to happen. Well, listen, bad policies have consequences, bad strategies have consequences, and there's a risk and pay political risk, and they got backlash in a major way to find somebody on their opinion for $2,500, whatever it is, it's pathetic to me. But they have the right to do this.
Starting point is 00:15:29 And we have the right to say no. You know, right after when I, if you go on Twitter, I posted right afterwards saying, hey, this is why capitalism works, people have responded, and PayPal is taking there, go to, click on the media, click on media because it's gonna block you. Just go, yeah, shit, it does that every time. Go a little lower lower go a little lower. Let's see if it will show it or not go one more one more one more right after that See you have to log it in anyways. I said something about
Starting point is 00:15:56 The people have responded and they've scared a crap out of a PayPal they're no longer doing a $2,500 fine You know how many people below said the following it's too late. I'm out. PayPal, they're no longer doing a $2,500 fine. You know how many people below said the following, it's too late, I'm out. Oh, wow. Just the fact that you thought about doing that to me, I'm out. People didn't even give a second chance,
Starting point is 00:16:14 just the fact that you thought about finding people, what I believe in, I'm gone using PayPal. And it's not a few of them. It was a very good Monday for Stripe. It was a very bad day for PayPal That's their competitors. Oh, yeah, well you talk about capitalism now you I mean you have Venmo What's there? You've got you got what's the other thing that you use with? Stripes of be right
Starting point is 00:16:37 Stripes they stride cash app sell sell I mean so there's options out there exactly But here's the thing all those people fall in line. Who banned Andrew Tate? Stripe. These all people fall in line. And what do they do? They tell the right to go make their own platform. And then they take the freaking platform down. Look at parlor or getter.
Starting point is 00:16:53 They have to host on AWS, sales force, or any of these big data farms and servers. And what do those people do? They then take the platforms down. And it's a big down by an infrastructure. Yes. They literally they're out to the outside. This doesn't work long term. I'm going to keep saying this. It will not work long term. It will not work long term. I'm going to keep saying this. It's not a tall. C. Abert just came out today saying what? She says, I'm leaving
Starting point is 00:17:19 the Democratic Party. She got to see that. How amazing. One minute video. She says, I'm leaving the Democratic Party. And she doesn't say where amazing. One minute video, she says, I'm leaving the Democratic Party. And she doesn't say where she's going. She just said she's leaving the Democratic Party, right? And it's, you can go on her Twitter. I don't know if you have it or not. If you want to just play it, you send me to Tweet. If you just want to play that up, just go to her Twitter account.
Starting point is 00:17:39 And you should say that's the right thing. And what do you think she's going to go, Pat? I think she's going to go to the right or think she's going to say right in the middle. No, I don't know. No, this one right there. That's the one right there. Yeah. And what do you think she's gonna go, Pat? I think she's gonna go to the right or think she's gonna say right in the middle? No. I don't know. No. This one was this, uh, but let me ask you, is anyone shocked by this? Like, I feel like she's been at war with the Democratic Party for, I mean, it's like
Starting point is 00:17:55 not Andrew Gaines in a way. I'm not shocked by this whatsoever. But here's, this is not about being shocked or not, I'm not expecting anybody to be shocked. But you had a superstar on your side. You can't lose superstars like this on your side. You had Joe Rogan on your side. You had Elon Musk on your side. You had all these people on your side that you're losing. You cannot continuously lose superstars. The example was made yesterday about CNN versus Fox. And I said to the lady that was here with us
Starting point is 00:18:30 and I said, listen, most Persians in LA, I don't know why, they're all on CNN camp. No, it's not true. It's 50, I said it's not 50, 50. It's more like 60, 40, if not higher. She says, no, it's 50, 50. I said, okay, fine. I said, look at CNN.
Starting point is 00:18:44 The model doesn't work. They light for five, six, seven years it's 50, 50. I said, okay, fine. I said, look at CNN. The model doesn't work. They light for five, six, seven years, and people left them. Oh, you're saying Fox doesn't like? You don't think Fox says, what was the word she was using like? They're like, essentially, essentially, essentially,
Starting point is 00:18:54 essentially, of course they're biased. Of course they're biased. They're selling. But they're giving you information. The left is just repeating the same thing over and over again. In CNN, specifically, NMS NBC, look what happened to the viewership and I give the example.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I said, you ever had somebody talk shit about a restaurant that's busy and you go to, they're like, why is she talk so many bad things about a restaurant? But every time I go, I gotta wait 30 minutes. Why is this restaurant so bad? I said CNN is a restaurant that's empty while people say it's great. Fox is a restaurant that's full while people say it sucks. Eventually people get a restaurant that's full, while people say it sucks.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Eventually people get it going and eat food at a place. That's full to say, what the hell is going on here? People are starting to ask, maybe I have something wrong and I gotta hear a different perspective. That's all it is. That's why a lot of these podcasts are doing good. Joe Rogan today to the world is considered a Republican
Starting point is 00:19:43 and the last thing he is. It's a Republican. I don't think he's a Republican. He said he's not that bad. No, no, to the world is considered a Republican and the last thing he is To the left he's a Republican. Yeah, I didn't say he's a Republican. Yeah, to the left he's a Republican just because He's asking questions. Did you guys see the clip with the Rolling Stones founder being on his podcast yesterday or like sometimes Yes, the one that he annihilated is that that the one? Yeah, I saw some of it. Where do we say he's like the government should regulate their better at regulating the internet? Yeah, and it's a great clip of him just like taking down this person has this kind of sense of all the government like the government does good and the government can be trans.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Me rolling stomach is he yeah, young winner? Yes, that's exactly what i was but it was it was it was it was it was exactly who it is that's exactly who it is i was on don't play but that's exactly who it is and joe just challenged him over and over and over and over and over and the guy is just oblivious he's like no you know that's exactly what it is the government's better at it the government's better at it the government's better at it. The government's better at it. The government's better at it. He says, it's not the politician. It's the government.
Starting point is 00:20:48 And Joseph, that's the government. No, it's the politician, Joe. That's the government. No, it's politicians. That's the government. The government kept going back and forth. So people through dialogue and exchange and conversations are starting to really ask questions.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Which is kind of cool. And go, go, go, go. When you say like the Democrat party needs the Tulsi Gabbards, the Joe Rogans, you know, you're thinking about policy because Joe Rogan is someone and Tulsi Gabbard as well. They come out, they support things like single payer, they support policies that Democrats like, but they're not representative of the left anymore. I mean, AOC is representative of the left. This hard woke stuff, this stuff that talks about kids
Starting point is 00:21:26 and surgeries to gender surgeries and gutting, everything that really made the country great in terms of freedom and values, that is what the left represents. So I don't think there's a home for them anymore there. The question for me becomes, where do those people go? Where do the Joe Rogans, who still espouse a lot of policies similar to what the left
Starting point is 00:21:50 used to be? Where do they find themselves? Like, where does Tulsi Gavridot? Does she hop on a debate stage now and present a problem for the left? And right, because she's a common sense person, she doesn't align herself with one side or the other, I think that's good. Let her hop on that debate stage and force the ronda Sanctuses of the world and it's not going to be Joe Biden. So, Kamala Harris, whoever, force them to be better at what they do, challenge them. The problem is that I don't know how somebody like a Tulsi gets elected because she's conservative in some sense, but then you look at issues like abortion and you look at single payer and
Starting point is 00:22:22 people like people want someone who fits in a box. People still want that. They're going to be confused by a Tulsi Gabbard. They're going to be confused by a Joe Rogan. But I think the market needs someone like a Tulsi Gabbard or even an Andrew Yang, someone in the middle of the... In the debate for sure. To challenge both sides. I mean, it's, if you look at both parties, I mean, who's going to be supportive of whether it's the DNC or the RNC, you gotta have someone behind you. We've learned that from multiple people that have been on here, unless you have a party behind you,
Starting point is 00:22:49 a platform behind you, it's gonna be hard to basically galvanize your party, right? I mean, the Trump self-funded, so he kinda, not a lot of people in the RNC were basically behind Trump, but, you know, because he had his own money, he was doing his own thing, but I think there's such a yearning, and such a fervor out there for someone in the middle ground, common sense, that whether it's a Tulsi or a Yang or whoever's in the middle,
Starting point is 00:23:14 that the country does want something like that. I just don't know if the question is where did it go. Or questions, where did it go? I can't start it on Newport. Me looking at her, that's a great clip that she said this morning, freedom, you know, all of fantastic. I'm not going to vote for her because she supports single payers. She's still a big government girl. She's just a big government girl that's not grounded in woke crazy.
Starting point is 00:23:35 She'd be the lesser of the two evil. Like, I would rather if I was on the falls of left or Democrat, I would go for someone like her and just deal with some of that BS instead of the extremeness that because what she said was amazing. Everything that she's saying is on point. Yeah, let me read the story by John Stewart. John Stewart passionately defense medicalized transitioning of young children. He delved into the national conversation surrounding gender ideology in his latest episode of the problem with John Stewart and in doing so, he fully endorsed medical gender transition for children and teen's spoke of Leslie, spoke to Leslie Rutledge,
Starting point is 00:24:10 Attorney General for Arkins. If you've not seen this, I highly recommend seeing this. And went into the interview with the idea that he needed to reeducate her that he was an expert on gender dysphoria and trans youth. Arkins saw banned the practice. Stuart believes that those politicians who are interested in protecting children from drugs and surgeries to treat gender dysphoria are the problem
Starting point is 00:24:32 and not a medical industry that prescribes Lupin de Poe off label to treat gender dysphoria when the manufacturer does not recommend it for that use. It was developed a treat prostate cancer and is used to chemically castrate sex offenders. The FDA found that drug can cause brain swelling and vision loss. Jen. Yeah, so this is really important to understand because when we talk about the system, this is the next cash cow. This is the next big venture that's going to make the left money. Plant parenthood, I covered on my show, is now making these gender transitions a priority.
Starting point is 00:25:10 In addition to abortion, they are prioritizing doing drug therapy for kids that come in the door. They want to accept this. And this is a big pharma umbrella. Everyone needs to realize. Big pharma stands to benefit and make an enormous amount of money out of this. So what you're going to see is you're going to see folks on the left. They're going to come in. They're going to support this. This is the system at work. This is the next big issue. Also, and I will remind you over and over again, if you are going to seize a country, you have to go for
Starting point is 00:25:40 the children. You have to go for two groups, actually. You have to go for young, healthy, strong men. You need to take them down. You need to make them weak. And then you need to go after kids. And that is what is happening right now, which is why you see the drag shows for kids. You see all of this stuff going on in schools. You see the indoctrination of kids. This is a plan to convert kids young to grab them. Also, remember, you make them drug dependent. These people, once they start on these hormone therapies, that's a lifetime customer for big pharma. So there is a big vision here of brainwash the kids, get the parents involved. This is, right here, what you see, this craziness, this is your modern Democrat party.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Well, what's the role of the parents here? Because if there's a 12 year old kid that wants to do this, I'm sorry, you know, Timmy or Sally, what do the parents have to say about this? I mean, this is nuts to me. Well, because the parents are listening to John Stewart. The parents are listening to mainstream media all the time. The parents are, remember, keep in mind, these media companies are in large part funded by Farma. I will guarantee you that you are gonna see commercials.
Starting point is 00:26:38 It's gonna trickle out. You start what happened with the vaccine. You're gonna see commercials trick out. You already see the targeting of parents where parents are told that their kids will be suicidal if they don't embrace these changes. If they don't support their five-year-old little boy who says, I'm a girl like my son come wake up one day and says, oh, I'm a monkey mommy. I'm supposed to believe that now. They are being targeted and told if you don't support this, then your kid may be suicidal and it's going be on you. So these parents are told, bring your kids to therapy.
Starting point is 00:27:06 They go into these therapy sessions. There's a lot of brainwashing that gets involved. They take drugs way early and then once they hit 18 or 17 actually in some cases, which has been discovered, then it becomes time for massive surgeries that are life changing, life altering and can't be undone. Well, let me ask you, Jay, because you're a parent, I'm not a parent.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Okay, on one hand, this is not something that I'm like cool with or even familiar with for that matter. I don't have kids like, and I'm very protective of my nephew. I'm like, you're a boy, bro, we're playing sports. Yeah. It's very much me. But at the same time, if you're a parent, and you believe this BS, and you fall victim to it,
Starting point is 00:27:43 that's your decision. You make bad decisions, you have to live with your consequences. That's on the parent, no? Whether it's the media or whoever you're listening to, isn't that on the parent? Well, yeah, but they're making decisions for their children. That's what I'm saying. Well, I mean, half sure. You should consider your legal guardian. In the sense of you being a legal guardian of your child, 100%, but you realize the whole system is completely broken. You now have kids, I don't know, Tyler would have good stats on this probably. The number of kids that are now identifying as, you know, they're saying I'm transgender,
Starting point is 00:28:13 is blowing up. It's like double what it was just a few years ago. It's like cool to do. This is a social, cool kid. That's what's happening. This is what's happening. This is like, you go on TikTok. This is the new thing.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Kids that are lost, kids that are feeling confused, you have a bad day. Now you're like, oh, maybe I'm the wrong gender. So honestly, we live in a deeply sick society. If you have parents now that are hopping on board with that, you're supposed to be a parent. It's not that. Is it on the parents to beg listen?
Starting point is 00:28:37 I know that all the kids in school are saying this, but let me teach you. For instance, Pat has kids all within elementary school age age if God forbid one of your kids was saying this you would have his heart to heart With with one of the kids and say listen. Here's how life works. You would have this conversation Adam. I think This is a very complex issue here, and I'll give you my Feedback on this and then we can go from there. I can only have influence over my kids so much. This morning I was watching a TikTok and watching one video of Trump talking about his brother.
Starting point is 00:29:14 And he said, my brother Fred was more handsome than me, was better speaking than me, he was more charming than me, he was better at telling story than me by far. And he said, my brother told me, and he was much older than me. He said, he kept telling me, don't drink, don't drink, don't smoke, never drink, never smoke, never drink, never smoke.
Starting point is 00:29:32 He says, he told me that so many times. So guess what, till today, I've never touched alcohol once in my life, and I've never smoked a cigarette in my life or drugs. Just a guy that everybody criticized, a great example of a guy who's never drunk, never done drugs, never done any of that stuff. And he told this kid,
Starting point is 00:29:47 three things with me, no alcohol, no drugs, no tattoos. That's what he expected. And I think junior one time partied for like a few months and then his dad called him and he says, you can't be doing this kind of stuff, but that was his standard, right? Okay. He said the point he used,
Starting point is 00:30:01 the word he uses, somebody had a positive influence over my life. Alcohol took my brother's life because he struggled with it forever. He eventually died because of alcohol. It's all the brother. There's only so many hours I'm around Dylan or Tico or Senna or Brooklyn. I can't be around them 24-7. I can't stop my entire life and be around them.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Now I have the means to do that financially. 99% of people can't just stop everything in their life and say, excuse me, job, I have to go do this, they're gonna get fired, it's not fair to them. So imagine if all of a sudden your kids coming up, talking about, mom, I wanna go through a transgender because I identify this, I wanna be that, the parent is helpless. There's no feeling like truly being helpless,
Starting point is 00:30:48 like what can I do in this moment? I'm not talking about the mom that's not involved. I'm not talking about the mom that's doing drugs, that's partying, that's all that stuff. Put that as a 5% whatever the moms that don't take, but 95% do, I'm not talking about the dad that's not in the lives. Take 10% of that or whatever percentage
Starting point is 00:31:06 It's probably more than mom so four times say 20 I don't know what the numbers are be but you you set that aside It's the person that's trying to be a good parent that's sitting there saying what the hell do I tell my kids? So now this morning I'm sitting there saying okay, how much of this is real? Oh my god John Stewart you make a lot of sense. These poor kids, can you imagine being stuck in a body and they're suicidal? These kids are killing themselves, they're suicidal.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Are they suicidal because they're being transgended? Are they suicidal because you keep feeding them, dispolshed that they start believing? So now I said, who was the first transgender person in the history of mankind? Was it in 600 BC? Was it during biblical times? Was it in 200 AD?
Starting point is 00:31:54 Was it in 600 AD? Must have been around a long time because this transgender stuff's got to be a few thousand years. No, it's less than a hundred years. You'll see a couple names. Here's one, Lily Elby, that'll come up, birth name, Ainar Wigner, also spelled Ainer, okay. Danish painter who was assigned male at birth, assigned male at what the hell does assigned male at birth means, experience what is now called gender dysphoria underwent the world's first documented sex reassignment surgery and how long of
Starting point is 00:32:31 a life is that right there 49 years what is that 18 plus 31 49 years okay less than 49 years died at 48 years old why would somebody die 48 years old I don't know there's another one the AC story that comes up is another one that's called Michael Dylan if you look at this one, your Michael Dylan, just type in Michael, uh, D-I-L-L-O-N, Michael, D-I-L-L-L-O-N. Here's another one that comes up. This is another one that was a, uh, put transgender in it. So you see it, just type in transgender. Okay, there you go first trans man to Undergo whatever you call that failure
Starting point is 00:33:09 Plasty, okay Dylan was a second child of Robert Arthur Dylan born air to Barron Burnt whatever it is. It's an Ireland and his Austrian wife such and such. You know Dylan's mother died of And then boom this guy wants to become a transgender. So Pat, we're learning something here. This is very new. This is very recent. But what I'm saying to you is this is a, this is not real. It's a phenomenon. This is a challenge a person faced and we don't know the whole to psychoanalyze. What this person was going through, mom or dad molesting the kid or going through uncle or rape
Starting point is 00:33:46 or you don't know the whole shit to say, oh poor guy went through this, yes. Poor guy may have lived a horrible life. This doesn't mean everybody else that's going through this should say, it's okay. So when he say the parents have the consent, so let's just say if I as a parent says, I wanna take my kids life,
Starting point is 00:34:02 and that's the parent's decision because is that okay? At what point or redrawn the line to say, this doesn't make any sense. I understand this is under the authority of a parent. It's just logically and emotionally in common sense. This shit doesn't make sense. So you cannot create this kind of a climate where parents who don't have the means feel helpless
Starting point is 00:34:24 that they can't do nothing. And that's what's going on today. And if there's parents who don't have the means feel helpless that they can't do nothing, and that's what's going on today. And if there's anything I don't like, is when I see somebody that can't help defend for themselves, I can't stand there and say, oh, you know, that's what it is, bro. The guys gotta do what he's doing up here, that's what's happened in today to the climate.
Starting point is 00:34:40 So parents feel like they have their hands, handcuffs and shackles, and I can't move and do nothing about it. It's a very tough case to be. Yeah, I completely agree with you Pat. And I think there's a there's two things here that I'm going to talk about. One is repression and one is suggestion. The left really believe that these are suppress thoughts that are inside us that we just need to liberate them and make them okay.
Starting point is 00:35:00 And all these kids can come out and they can get help and they can get reassigned. What they don't understand is it's really suggestion that's happening in the mind of these kids and acceptability. If you show, I can do it in 10 minutes, you show praise to a kid for doing something little off, then they'll do something that's a little off, a little funny, because the kids want the praise of their teachers, of the people around them. So the kids are gonna go that way. The left will say, see, they're repressed,
Starting point is 00:35:30 and now it's coming out, because they're being shown it's okay. And you're right, the parents need people in there, not to be, you know, misappropriating the authority lines in the school that the parents have. And so now what they wanna do is, well, then the kid will go down to a counselor at school, we won school that the parents have. And so now what they want to do is, well, then the kid will go down to a counselor at school. We won't tell the parents because we have a moral authority over the parent because there's a moral imperative
Starting point is 00:35:56 to let this kid's repression come out. And they think it's repression, it's really suggestion. And what ends up is the whole left machine comes out on that, leaving the parent helpless. That's what's happening. And it's wrong. And by the way, the stuff Lupron that they're talking about, Lupron was originally brought forth, a thing called percocious puberty, where the pituitary gland starts too early, and
Starting point is 00:36:22 girls are getting their growth spurt as young as five years old. So Lupron was a good drug designed to suppress that. This is something I personally know a lot about. And it helps. Now we're taking this drug and basically using it for gender reassignment is actually a discovered side effect of this drug. And they're like, but wait a minute, look what we can do with it. We can chemically castrate people.
Starting point is 00:36:49 We can give it to 12 and 13 year old girls, suppress the pituitary glands, suppress their development so that we can reassign them as males. This, this, is as bad as the Nazis testing drugs. And they were testing drugs. This is bad. They're testing this and using a side effect that's known in Lupron to say, oh, it's got this great societal benefit. Bull. So they don't have the testers drug. They don't go to FDA. It's already there. So the side effect is going to make them double. This drug has been used for per
Starting point is 00:37:19 coast. Look at it up. It's called percocious puberty. It's a condition in young girls, very young girls. It has a designated effect. It's expensive as hell, by the way. It's like seven grand a quarter. So it's $28,000 a year. This stuff is. Yeah, but there it is. When puberty begins in girls before eight, nine and boys consider percosis puberty, all it is is the pituitary gland waking up a little too early. We got to tell the pituitary gland, hey, chill out for a couple of years and then go do your things so this person can develop into normal adulthood. What is it, Judd?
Starting point is 00:37:50 No, I'm just going to say you mentioned the FDA. So just keep in mind the FDA's bought and sold. The FDA is part of the system. Yeah, for sure. The FDA people at the FDA change hands with the CDC, the change hands with big government, the change hands with big farmer. They all, if you want to go watch Dope Sick, spend some time and watch Dope Sick. I'm telling you guys, I think this is a really interesting
Starting point is 00:38:07 conversation. I know you have a lot of people that watch, that are parents. There are two types of parents that are struggling right now. Well, one is struggling and one is a robot. You have parents that have their eyes wide open and are looking at what's going on and see what's going on in schools
Starting point is 00:38:21 and they have their heads on straight. So they see what's happening and they want to do something. But the problem is those kids on in schools, and they have their heads on straight. So they see what's happening, and they want to do something. But the problem is those kids are in schools all day long, getting indoctrinated, they now go up, and parents don't even know what's going on. Oftentimes the schools will not get consent. We've covered schools where the kid shows up to school as a boy leaves the house, shows up at school,
Starting point is 00:38:41 tells the teacher, I'm a girl, and goes throughout the entire school day being referred to as a girl. How does that kid then go home, back to his family? And what does the parent do? That's been, how many hours a day that that child has been implicated in, haven't knows what?
Starting point is 00:38:56 There's a second group of parents, though, that need to be talked about, and these are the robots. These are people who have absorbed. You talk about, you know, Adam, you mentioned, oh, parents, you know, isn't it up to them. There is a segment of society that's increasing and growing and ballooning that just absorbs
Starting point is 00:39:09 whatever you tell them. People have lost their backbone. This started with academia and how everyone's told to sit down and shut up. You're not supposed to be a free thinking person anymore. You're not supposed to challenge authority. You're not supposed to challenge the status quo. So you have parents that listen to something like John Stewart.
Starting point is 00:39:24 It's horrible to say and they're like a little sponge and they just absorb it and they say, well, this must be what's going on. CNN said it, mainstream media said it, John Stewart said it, this is what's happening and then they become part of the club and they have stopped thinking for themselves. I know we have expectations as adults who are free thinking
Starting point is 00:39:42 that other adults would be free thinking, that is not always the case. And then those people have children and their mass becomes their child's mass, which is why you see kids running around right now with their masks on, afraid to take them off, afraid of social settings
Starting point is 00:39:55 because neurotic parents gave that to their children. So they pick up on that stuff. So what I wanna see happen is, I want the parents who have their head on straight to walk into those schools and say enough They need to take authority over the situation. They need to rip their kids out of schools if they can if they can't they need to do whatever They can to battle this stuff and other people out there that have turned into robots You need to wake up you need to wake up instead of becoming a steward of the system well and real quick
Starting point is 00:40:20 Absolutely, I think there's a third group of parents that we're not addressing here And these are the parents that legally cannot do anything in states like Washington where you don't have to have parental consent to have gender transition surgery or if you take your child to a psychiatrist and the psychiatrist affirms the child's beliefs that they are transgender and the parent pushes back The parent is now being arrested for child abuse There are parents in states that cannot do anything by law because they'll be arrested So the kids will be forcibly removed from the parents. So what do you guys think is the main, the biggest influence for a child in a school,
Starting point is 00:40:50 you know, 12, 13, 14, that's getting that in their head, is it, because I mean, if they're on TikTok, China owns TikTok and like, Ben Jed, you were saying, they're trying to demascanize men and make the men weak, that's the perfect way to do it is from within, because those people, keep going down the line, they're not gonna have kids over population we've been hugely overpopulated
Starting point is 00:41:08 everybody's been saying it Bill Gates has been saying it forever there's too many people on the planet those people are not having kids. Tansier question in the schools K6 there is one person at the front of the class and they do not change classes for subjects that K6 teacher has more influence over them in terms of total hours of influence and suggestion and of the class and they do not change classes for subjects. That K6 teacher has more influence over them in terms of total hours of influence and suggestion and reinforcement than the parent does. It's the K6. Seventh grade, they start going around, they have a math teacher, a science teacher, they start changing classes. But K6 was formed of years, it's that person standing
Starting point is 00:41:40 at the bottom of the class. It's actually the guidance counselor too, just having worked in schools for a really long time. It's actually the guidance counselor too, just having worked in schools for a really long time. It's actually the guidance counselor. I've sat with guidance counselors that will talk to me about how they keep stuff from parents, how they will have conversations with the kids about stuff that's, you know, medical, and they won't share it with the parents, how they will are happy to refer to a child as a different gender of the kids. So desires, even though that is not something that the parents approve of,
Starting point is 00:42:05 happens all the time in guidance, council rooms. So that's, is there any way to have kids, you know, those cops were those things that you can see whatever the hell the cop is doing at any moment. I didn't, they should put something on the camera. Body cams. Body cams.
Starting point is 00:42:15 I'm pushing for cameras and classroom. And I'm not saying, I'm not saying one in the classroom because that's, you know, that's invasion of everybody's privacy. Who's privacy? Who's privacy is that invading? You know, I'm not saying that. If you put a camera in a. Who's privacy is that invading? No, I'm not. If you put a camera in a classroom, what are you trying to hide?
Starting point is 00:42:27 No, I agree. But I'm saying it's to make it personal. If I'm Pat and I want to see what Dylan is doing at any time, I want to push the freaking bun. I'm like, who the, who the, who the talk is him about this and this and that. And then I, you know what I mean? Is there any way to get a little bit more involved because I'm just like, I mean, Adam, don't have any kids hearing this type of stuff from you guys that do have kids makes me even more of like a idol.
Starting point is 00:42:49 I'm fine. People do that for their babysitter and convalescent homes for their parents to say you're elderly father. You got some bruises on his forearm and you're like, some nurse come in here. So you put a camera in his retirement facility and you do it for your babysitter. What? Listen to me. So you put a camera in his retirement facility and you do it for your babysitter. Well, I wasn't. Listen, I'm held upon you if you try to do it in the classroom. Let me ask you parents here. We all grew up in the 80s for the most part, biz doc, a little before that.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Is it more of a challenge to raise kids today more than ever, right? With social media, with everything you're talking about, about like sort of like the big, brother approach. Ask why? That's what I want to know. Why do you think? Tell me.
Starting point is 00:43:30 I want you to think, and you don't have kids. I want you to think. Why do you think it's harder today than it was when we were 12 years old, six years old, and the... I mean, the first answer that would have to be social media, just because it has a greater influence than anything we've ever seen with our camera. Growing up, I mean, I was the kid
Starting point is 00:43:47 that we would always just play sports in the front yard. That's all it was, right? This was pre-beaper, pre-cell phone, pre-social media. There was no influence over your life other than at school, right? So can I, that's one. So here, give me the easiest product to sell. What's an easy product?
Starting point is 00:44:06 Let's say we all become salespeople. Okay. And Tyler's our sales leader. He wants to teach us how to sell this product. What's an easy product to sell? Car. Okay, cool. What kind of a car?
Starting point is 00:44:17 Just a regular car. Tell you what a car I want to have. What's an easy thing where the average person can learn how to sell? Can we say phone? Ice cream. I just't know what I phone. Okay. No, honestly, let's just certain. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Let's just say hi. I've been out. He's total fitness. If you're trying to sell an iPhone, how do you sell an iPhone versus a droid? You have to talk about its features, its benefits, what is the period of green bubbles, green bubbles, green bubbles versus blue, face time.
Starting point is 00:44:40 When you're flying, you can text everybody. Face time. It's easier to use. It's easier to use. It's tied to the music all the stuff. So it's an So out of a hundred people if we try to train in one hour can we train out of a hundred people On people to learn how to sell an iPhone hour later Okay, so what else is easy to sell? Memberships. Yeah, a pen. What else is easy to sell close? Yeah, what's easy to sell? Okay?
Starting point is 00:45:02 So what's hard to sell? What is a hard product to teach someone to sell that takes months and months and months and months to sell? Insurance. What else? Financial products. But give me specific. I want to say what do you think is hard to teach somebody to sell? I think it's very hard to teach me to sell. Like, you know, life insurance and annuities are technical, the benefits are there. What about fashion? like cloth, nothing like that? No, no, no, technical. You'll look great, and you can get laid. I want that, I want that time.
Starting point is 00:45:30 I want that, that's the product. But here's a point I'm trying to make to you when I'm saying like, what's hard to sell? What's easy to sell? In the 80s, every product you ever sell comes up with a set of FAQs. So it's five frequently asked questions. So tell me, what is the chances
Starting point is 00:45:45 that if I buy this real estate property, the market's going to go down? How do I protect myself against it? Well, John, Mary, are you buying this house because you're planning on living here for two years? Are you planning to buy, live this place for ten years? No, we're at least going to live in this place for ten years. Well, historically in the last ten years, if you look at what's happened to real estate, never has real estate gone down lower in 10 So you give that kind of a rebuttal you got five frequently asked questions some technical products 20 some extremely technical products 5200 Parents in the 80s had 20 FAQs. Where do babies come from?
Starting point is 00:46:17 Okay, mommy how much love was there in this house that we had a baby my teacher told me babies come because if there's a lot of love in the house And then babies are born Is there in this house that we had a baby? My teacher told me, baby's come because if there's a lot of love in the house, and then babies are born. So if we only have one baby and they have five, does that mean our household doesn't have enough love like the other household has? No son, that's not really where babies come from. But tell me, so tell me what happens when we die. Are you going to die one day?
Starting point is 00:46:37 These questions that kids ask, we ask our parents. Can you imagine today one of the FAQs you got to give to a parent is what's a transgender and am I one? Can you imagine today one of the FAQs you got to give to parents is what's a transgender in MI1? Mami, am I gay? Am I lesbian? Hey, Mami, let me ask you a question. Why did you not take the vaccine? Why are we taking a vaccine?
Starting point is 00:46:53 My teacher told me it's irresponsible to not take the vaccine. Are we taking a vaccine? The FAQ of parenting today is the size of a Bible. And parents just can't keep up anymore. That's the biggest, in my opinion, that's the biggest difference of parenting in the 80s versus today. It's like in the 80s, you need an associate degree to be a parent. Today, you need a PhD to be a parent.
Starting point is 00:47:16 You need to go train to learn how to answer some of these complex questions with kids. It's a challenge in time to have kids. I think we've also lost community. When I was growing up, I knew the names of all my neighbors. That's right. Today, you don't know the names. If your neighbor says hello to you, they're being nosy and you're like worried.
Starting point is 00:47:33 I can remember I was seven years old. I go walking down the street toward the end of the neighborhood. And the neighbor drives by, he rolls down his window, and he call me, this is Tommy. He said, yeah, where are you going? Cause he knows I live way down there. I live like 5,000s down. And what's this seven year old walking here?
Starting point is 00:47:50 I'm running away from home. Why are you doing that? Cause I'm mad. He stops his car, opens the door, stands up. You go home right now. And I'm calling your mom to tell you tell her that you were down here walking toward the main street. And so I got home because he's calling my parole officer.
Starting point is 00:48:09 You remember this. You remember this. I remember this. So seven years old. And so guess what? That doesn't happen today. You don't talk to my kid. You don't yell at my kid.
Starting point is 00:48:18 But that father was part of the community of the neighborhood. And we weren't all Republicans. We weren't all Democrats. There is different views there. But there is a community that's been lost in America. You don't know your neighbors and you don't trust your neighbors. There is a time when he thought that I should tell this kid, and what does the only thing he did, get home. I'm calling your mom.
Starting point is 00:48:39 That was it. By the time I got home, it says, where were you? I was walking down toward the main road. And why were we doing that? And now guess what? I got home says where were you? I was walking down to the main road and why were we doing that? And now guess what? I got this this moment with my mom. I'm in my room and I'm waiting for my dad to get home. Is that supposed to be doing this? We all just learned that and this doc used to be called Tommy.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Tommy. But because I was little and it's the nickname for a little kid. That's such an important thing you're talking about community though and that that's been lost. And there are so many parents, many parents that are now trying to recapture that because it's exhausting to to all those questions that Pat spouted off for it. It's true. You have to think what your kid could come home and ask.
Starting point is 00:49:14 There's a lot of people though now that want that a little bit of that simplicity back and they're moving off the grid. They're going into the small towns. You see a lot of people leaving the New York cities. They're leaving into the small towns. You see a lot of people leaving the New York cities. They're leaving the Miami's. They're leaving the, you know, even the Austin, Texas's and they're heading out into, get some land and get that sense of community
Starting point is 00:49:32 where they can raise their child in a place that's not woke, that's not crazy where the school actually teaches them, you know, reading, writing, and math and not, you know, propaganda all day long and they don't have to worry about indoctrination and that they know their neighbors and there is a sense of community because think about it too. The privileged can hire help, can do this, but people need community. Often hard working people go to work every day and they like the idea that their kid is
Starting point is 00:49:58 part of a town where that becomes the family. You all kind of raised each other back in the day. I remember, my neighbors were like aunts and uncles and that was a beautiful thing. When you strip that away, it leaves people feeling very isolated. It leaves people in lower income bracket struggling and then what do they do?
Starting point is 00:50:15 They have to put their kids into the system and that then creates the whole paradigm we were talking about before where the kids get indoctrinated. So that whole sense of community is vital and important. I think more and more people around the country are realizing it and trying to get it back. I know where it shows up a lot. It shows up a lot.
Starting point is 00:50:30 It shows up a lot in homeschooling. Because homeschooling creates networks of families together that agree in one thing. The school is wack and we're going to homeschool. I love it. I love it. Wags. Wags.
Starting point is 00:50:43 You wag. That's true. And, but no, but look what builds up. Relationships build up, you know, because somebody teach a science because they knew that, or they hire a tutor to be part of that. And homeschooling families is, you know, huge community that's growing out of that, out of not going up to the
Starting point is 00:51:01 mountains and all being weird people, right? This isn't deliverance in homeschool. This is just a community of people pulling together and saying, hey, we're going to homeschool, so are we, and they meet all these other families, and there's resources for them, there's ACT testing, and you know what? Guess what, they also discover.
Starting point is 00:51:19 They also discover this community of common citizens. Yep. Fantastic. Exchange there. Adam, hopefully hopefully you got enough fear to consider when you're going to be having kids, you and Vinnie, both of you guys. So let's go to JP Morgan. And what Jamie Diamond just said, this is serious. JP Morgan's Jamie Diamond warns US likely to tip into recession
Starting point is 00:51:40 in six to nine months. It's interesting when he says six to nine months as if we're not in recession today, but when Jamie Diamond speaks, you at least have to hear what he is saying. Jamie Diamond said on Monday warned that there's a very, very serious mix of headwinds was likely to tip both the US and global economy
Starting point is 00:51:57 to recession by the middle of next year. Diamond Chief Executive of the largest banking in the US said that the US economy was actually still doing well at present and consumers were likely to be in better shape compared with 2008 global financial crisis when the world tips into recession among the indicators ringing alarm bells diamond cited the impact of runway inflation interest rates going up more than expected and unknown effects of quantitative easing and Russia's war in Ukraine being said. Now, there's a lot of other things.
Starting point is 00:52:28 By the way, while this is happening, Bernanke gets a Nobel Prize and Michael Burry just tweeted out this morning, a few hours ago saying Bernanke gets the Nobel Prize in economics not a joke, meaning they really gave this guy a Nobel Prize in economics after the way they did quantitative easing back in 2008. So Tom, what are your thoughts about what Jamie Diamond just said about recession being
Starting point is 00:52:54 in an X-X to 12 month? Well, first of all, remember, Jamie speaks for the banking industry, so there's some benefits to himself in there. He is not completely altruistic here. But the second part of it is he has been a fairly balanced barometer you know if if i were became president i'd want jamey diamond to meet my secretary of treasury because he's a balanced guy in his prized pragmatic and i think he's looking at a lot of the things here i was looking this morning
Starting point is 00:53:20 and there's some very interesting economic stats out that in the last sixty days we've seen a tick down and spending on restaurants, travel high and also what they they measure high in foods because they do this average basket between like a whole foods and like a Albertans, you know what I'm saying between the two different levels of it. And people are interestingly, they're not budging on all their, on spotifying Netflix Disney Plus and Hulu, they're not budging, but they're moving off of restaurant spending and things. So I think the consumer data that's out there that Jamie's looking at is that the consumer is in, by the way, look at he says, better shape than 2008 financial crisis.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Well, that's like saying, boy, you look in better shape this week than three years ago when you're fighting prostate cancer. I mean, that comparison is pretty big because 2008 was a huge, huge bomb going off. And I think he's right. And there's consumer data that's showing it and what people, you know, are, are spending. And I think, and we're seeing it in the real estate, the real estate market Pat and I've been talking about this for how many months now? How many short clips do we got? VT short clips go back and look at them folks. We've been talking about this for a while.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Housing prizes now are starting to tip and seriously tip and what have we got for interest rates right now? I think it's officially six and three quarters is in a pat for like a six fifty credit, so solid credit for a 30 year fixed mortgage. So not too technical, just look at a typical mortgage like that, and we're 6.75% now, and it's not going to be a half a percent in December. It's looking more like it's going to be three quarters of a percent. So I think Diamond is looking at consumers, he's looking at housing, and you're looking at a Fed that's going to move it again on December 10th to 15th. Bank rate, I just looked at it right now, Tyler, if you want to pull it
Starting point is 00:55:12 up 6.89 is the bank rate right now. It's almost seven. Here we come. 6.88, about seven. I think it's going to get to 10%. And I said this a while back, people thought I was crazy. I said gas prices are gonna go to $10. They said, and I said this two years ago, two and a half years ago, you can't spend money like the way we did without prices going up and trying to fake it. It's just, it's not possible. And the biggest thing is, so this last week, I had some of the biggest money managers of Morgan Stanley, didn't would fly out last Friday.
Starting point is 00:55:44 They were here We had a lengthy meeting together and these are the best at the best at what they do out in New York We had a very good meeting together and I had a meeting with my Goldman Sachs folks as well the week prior to that Let me tell you what both are concern about Both are concerned about the fact that Distincts not to slow down. It's going to keep going down.
Starting point is 00:56:07 They're not optimistic at all about 2023. What's so ever inflation is not going away. Powell said we're going to keep increasing rates and keep them high until inflation hits what number 2%. You know what inflation is at right now? Go look at what inflation is at right now. What's current inflation right now? Okay, current inflation right now, if you look at this.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Okay. Current inflation right now, if you look at it, is 8.3%, yeah, 8.3%. You know, if you go to current inflation rates, go from 2000 to 2022, click on the calculator right there. Let's take a look at this. Zoom in a little bit.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Man, I wish we could go into see. Once the last time we were at 2%, 2020. You know what it's gonna take to get to that? It's gonna take a while to get to that. It's not gonna all of a sudden drop from 8.3 to 2%, which means rates have to continuously keep going up to bring this down and the people in real estate and mortgages, that think.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Yeah, Pat, you just, you know, fear mongering, it's fear porn, prices are not coming down and all that. So really, prices are not coming down. The high-da building was the high-da, what's that, the Miami building, the sexy building, the woman's body. You see, I'm 10,000, I need $1,000,000. Okay, the 1,000, the Skane folks folks just want to tell you this, two years ago,
Starting point is 00:57:27 year ago, 57th floor pen house, it's 10,000 score feet, I looked at it, that pen house, you know what it was worth a year ago? 30 million. Not 30 million, that's the top of the top of the top, it's the last floor, we looked at it together, we looked at 54th floor, 57th floor just sold that building right there. 57th floor, Pen House, with the only helipad on top of that building that was valued between 35 to 50 million dollars. Just sold for $19 million last year. What? Just so you know that. $19 million.
Starting point is 00:58:05 You can get a good deal if you want. I just can't sleep. And I know people are like, oh my God, all these big numbers, all this stuff. No, no, this was built with the idea that the pen house is gonna be a $40, 50 million house, pen house, just so this is the sexiest building in all of Miami.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Is that even debatable? The Aston Martin building is not even close to this. All these other buildings, not a government, Penhouse 5740. I've lived in all five of those buildings, except for the one in the middle, it was unforetable. That's the building you're talking about. But then every single one of those buildings,
Starting point is 00:58:35 those are the neighborhoods. So the moral, the moral of the story here is, the bottom is not here. The bottom is not here. People are like, oh, well, the market recovered because of what's going on last week. No, the bottom is not here. The bottom is not here. People are like, oh, the market recovered because of what's going on last week. No, the bottom is down here. People just got excited.
Starting point is 00:58:49 The fact that Elon Musk is gonna be buying Twitter. That's what people got excited about. But the bottom is not here. Let me read this to you about price increases come easily for big businesses, but inflation still squeezes profits. A Wall Street Journal story. Many big US businesses say they've been able
Starting point is 00:59:03 to increase prices this year with limited pushback from customers. Not all the changes are leading to higher corporate profits. Prices are sticky, economics like to say, once they go up, customers get used to it. And they rarely come down quickly. If companies cost them fall, they can pass along a little of the savings and keep the rest. Customers get a bit of a break and margins still widen. Corporate profit margins, the difference between expenses
Starting point is 00:59:28 and revenue reached historical high levels and recent quarters helped by strong consumer demand for a range of goods and services. So what does this mean? Customers are not complaining that prices are going up, but how long is that sustainable time? I don't know, because you know what's the one number that they keep bragging about that hasn't changed?
Starting point is 00:59:45 And when that changes, it's a massive, massive collapse. You know what it is? It's one unemployment. Yeah, unemployment numbers. Still, it's 2.5%. Unemployment numbers are strong. Unemployment numbers are strong. Unemployment numbers are strong. Now everybody plays games with headlines.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Yeah. What if this was the headline America had to read? Jerome Powell will continue raising rates until inflation drops 75% everybody be like holy crap it has to drop 75% that's you see what i mean do you know how long it'll take to exactly how long it's gonna take that's gonna take two years i agree i think i think at the earliest is eighteen months at the latest stodemons this could go into twenty twenty four is what it could go into
Starting point is 01:00:24 i i think it will i think the president the presidential election in 2024 is the defining moment, not the midterm election right here, because people haven't seen the bottom yet. I think the biggest spike in the history of the stock market, single day spike going up will be the day after election in 2024. You're going to see it is going gonna be the biggest bone to the roof you've ever seen. If again, I'm purely if the Republicans, it's not an if. It's a shit show in America and it ain't changing. It's not an if. It's just who. Is it gonna be a dissentist? Is it gonna be a whoever? It's not about it. If like, look at the way they
Starting point is 01:01:03 pinned COVID on Trump. COVID doesn't happen Trump's the president today. Everybody says that on the left to right, the middle Bill Ma, Bill Ma, says that. COVID doesn't happen Trump's the president today. Okay. What's been worse than a Biden administration in the last 40 years? What does America typically do when they have a site politically that when the economy is bad and everybody's struggling? Everybody says what? We have to change the way we're voting because of people in the middle say what? I'm not doing this again.
Starting point is 01:01:34 The day after 2024 election is done with and it's announced. Watch what the single day, matter of fact, make a note of when we said this, watch what happens today after election. Everybody on the market is going to say the single biggest uptick in the history of the stock market, a single day is going to be said that day after election in 2024. Mark my words. Wow. And that was going to go to 50,000 in 2024, 2025, 2025. That will go to 20,000, that will go to 50,000 in 2025, 20,26. Remember when I said this to you, I'm okay being wrong. And there's 80, 90% chance I'm going to be wrong.
Starting point is 01:02:12 But I'm telling you, that when my opinion, I'm not telling you to do this, talk to your experts, talk to your accountant, talk to your advisors, I'm banking on. That was going to be 50,000 in 2025, 20,26. Well, it's going to be a,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 for a fain moment off my Jimmy Carter was a remarkably nice man who has been proved it. He spent the last 42 years. He's 98 years old and he's still with us and he's still doing charitable service. Right. And he makes a headline when he falls down to charitable service and gets hurt and he gets back up. He was a nice guy. He was a guy that didn't
Starting point is 01:03:00 have a lot of like ew about him. right? But he was fired by the American people in a 49 state landslide. So let's- By Reagan. Reagan. Excuse me, Reagan beat Mondale in the 49 state landslide. But it was, he was fired in a monstrous landslide, simply because the economy sucks, I'm hurtin',
Starting point is 01:03:21 you're fired. And what you're about to see in 2024 is four times worse. Yeah, I think they're, I keep thinking about issues too, because with all of this stuff that feels very tangible to people, you know, gas prices, prices of goods and services, you feel that every day. You can't convince people that that's not happening because they feel it.
Starting point is 01:03:41 So what is the Biden, let's say Biden runs again, he's not gonna run again. Let's say Kamala Harris, I call her cackling Harris, So what is the Biden, let's say Biden runs again, he's not gonna run again. Let's say Kamala Harris, I call her cackling Harris, steps up to the plate and she decides she's gonna be the person. What is their issue? Is there only place of urban moms and talking about abortion?
Starting point is 01:03:55 Because honestly, I really don't think that that can become a key issue when people can't afford to put food on the table. I just don't see how these social issues that they intend to play can play well for them. They can't play economic issues because they've been in charge for how long and the whole economy is in massive distress. Is it a distraction? Do they want chaos? Do they want us involved in some mess with Ukraine so that they can blame outside forces for what's going on in here instead of taking responsibility for the horrific policies
Starting point is 01:04:21 that they put into place? I don't know. I just as the days go on, I do think Republicans will have a big victory, both in the midterms and in the next presidential election. I don't particularly think it matters who runs because this is so bad that people will choose whatever that is. But I'm curious what the campaign from the left will look like because I don't see a plus. I keep searching for it. With the exception of them saying to suburban
Starting point is 01:04:46 moms, they're going to take abortion rights away. They want to bring women back several decades. I just don't see that as being a powerful message given what the state of the economy looks like today. Do you think in their echo chamber, though, that they're going to go with that personal liberty message, abortion, trends? How can they go with a liberty message? They're just, what did everyone to get forced vaccination or lose their job? No, what I'm saying is, do you think in there? I'm asking you,
Starting point is 01:05:11 because your finger is on the pulse of stuff more than mine. So I'm asking it on this question. What do you think? Do you think in their echo chamber they're just gonna go for personal liberties, personal freedoms, and saying that the Republicans are gonna repress you and that's the problem.
Starting point is 01:05:23 I think they're gonna go for the female, the suburban mom vote. I think they're gonna go for women, and I think they're going to go for the female the suburban mom vote. I think they're going to go for women and I think they're going to hope that it's Donald Trump because they can use his past as something to go against. They can't go against his policy. They'll use his past. They'll paint him out to be a bad guy. They'll bring back sexual allegations.
Starting point is 01:05:38 They'll bring about the right. They're hoping for Trump because they also, you'll notice every speech recently Joe Biden did that speech where he looked angry. It looked like he was standing at the gates of hell. I don't know who who advised him to do that. It was absolutely. But you'll notice he didn't talk about the present much what he talked about was you know the capital.
Starting point is 01:05:54 He talked about what happened. They need to go backward and blame Trump or they have nothing which is why I keep saying if it's not Trump, I think it's advantageous to the right. We had a manager yesterday of the talent that was here and I went and spoke to him. I said, so wow, how are things in LA? So I don't live in LA. I live here. So really, he says, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:10 I said, but why'd you come here? Well, two reasons. What's one of them? One is this and you know the second reason. I said, I really want to know the second reason. He says, it's just tough to live in LA right now. I said, but you're a guy that are supportive. Yeah, I know. But anyways, I just
Starting point is 01:06:26 wanted to come here. Right. It's so funny that even people who still support those policies, but their actions are shown otherwise that they're coming to a place that's free, that they no longer want to live in a place like that. So the point I'm trying to make to is to follow it. Left, right middle, eventually. Nobody likes to be wrong. There isn't a single person in the world that wakes up in a morning saying, I like to be wrong. I love what Ray Dalio said this week.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Ray Dalio said, for you to want to be a leader and do something big in your life, something like that, he says, you have to be comfortable being wrong and I've been wrong many times. And he just came out and said cash is king Cash is king he said cash it's king because it's true today cash is king people want to have a lot of cash today So but there's a risk for being wrong. However, you know parents with their kids most They'll compromise being wrong to have a better relationship with their kids most They'll compromise being wrong to have a better relationship with their kids
Starting point is 01:07:27 Because there's only so long I'll go with having to be right even though I'm wrong I'll eventually say now I'm wrong. Listen my bad. Here you go. I love you. Let's go. I screwed up Let's figure this thing out, right and and and kids want to have a good relationship with their parents They generally want to have a relation with their parents I think eventually a lot of voters on the left, specifically left, who have supported a lot of these types of things, who love and adore people like Bill Mar. Love and adore people like Bill Mar. You know, our turning around and saying, shit, if Bill Mar is starting to say stuff like
Starting point is 01:08:00 this, dude, maybe there's more of us out there. So the more and more people like Bill Mar come out and start talking common sense the more and more people like on the left who maybe at one point like oh my god Bill Mars my hero is like why is Bill Mars saying the serious Dave Rubin he said I asked Bill Mar what it would take for him to support governor Decentre and get out of California says if California says I have to take shots and Decentre sense I don't, hello Florida. Okay, so watch this. Did you hear what Bill Marge said? Let's see if that video is gonna be taken.
Starting point is 01:08:29 I'm about to, we just got a report right now that the Richard Gage interview will not be going up because they do still think it's a hate speech interview. I don't know why. They have to protect the YouTube community. About 9-11, it was what 9-11? Yeah, it's pretty interesting. The 9-11 thing that we did, which is very weird
Starting point is 01:08:43 because we pushed in pushback so much Higher time he got pushed back to the point where he felt uncomfortable. Yeah, and but anyway So do me if ever go to the article I sent you about LA times Go to the article I sent you about LA time just take a look at this request. I just literally just send it to you About LA times if you can't see it just look at the text. I just send it to you about LA times. If you can't see it, just look at the text, I just send it to you. It has to do with what report just came back from, do you have it or no?
Starting point is 01:09:11 Yeah, I can use it for so much. It has to do with the report that came about vaccines being taken by 18 to 39 year olds, 18 to 39 year old male, and everything else, sadas or not. So I'm reading, hey YouTube, just so you know, we're not even on YouTube, this is on right timon.com.
Starting point is 01:09:24 So this is an article I'm reading, hey YouTube, just so you know, we're not even on YouTube. This is on by Timmy.com. So this is an article I'm reading from LA Times. Column, in threat to public health, Florida publishers, flawed, and unscientific anti-vaccine study. This is LA Times language. Go up and zoom a little bit more. Zoom a little bit more so I can read this. And by the way, if you guys want to get LA Times,. time, you can get it for $1 or 6 months. So there you go.
Starting point is 01:09:47 The spread of anti-vaccine misinformation and disinformation has become one of the defining public health challenges for our time. So dangerous that it prompted the California legislature to make the practice grounds for revoking a doctor's license. But what can we do when this pseudo scientific clap trap comes from an agency of a state government dressed up as a public health recommendation? Wow, there's a sentence.
Starting point is 01:10:11 The question arises from a new vaccine recommendation issued by Joseph Ladapal, Florida Surgeon General. Ladapal has been labeled a quack and a COVID crank. If there's been any doubt that these labels are justified, they should be dispelled by his latest action. Move up a little bit, tell me we can't read that. I can zoom in a little bit.
Starting point is 01:10:34 I'll put the dollar right now, I'll donate. Zoom, I can read it for my send, I know you guys can't do it. I'll read the rest of it to you. Now just read the next one in large print pat. You can read that, that'll just press X, why don't just press X one of the sides. They go, okay, good. This is the first time
Starting point is 01:10:48 that we've been a state government weaponized bad science to spread anti vaccine information as a official policy. Weaponize. Yeah, bad science. In a guidance, by the way, here's what he was saying, in a guidance issued Friday, Laddapal recommended against the males ages 18 to 39 receiving a mRNA vaccine for COVID. These are Moderna and Pfizer vaccines, most widely used in the United States. To justifies this recommendation, the lab will refer to a study purporting to show an elevated risk of cardiac-related health among males in that ages within 28 days of receiving the
Starting point is 01:11:22 vaccine. Weird. If you want to learn more about this article, go to LA Times, you can read the rest of it. Okay, but the point is, you know, when John Stuart was sitting down with the Attorney General of Arkansas, one of the things I like what she said was,
Starting point is 01:11:35 she says, how could you say that? No medical doctors are saying that about, you know, the transition. She says, what are you talking about? A lot of doctors are against it. Give me some names. She says, I didn't know I was gonna come and talk to Supreme Court today.
Starting point is 01:11:49 I thought I'm talking to you. I have the entire report, we can send it your way. He talked as if there isn't any doctor that disagrees with their position. And she says, There is to disagree. She says there's plenty. She says science is debate.
Starting point is 01:12:04 This is where science is debate. Any more. L.A. She says science is debate. This is where science is debate. LA Times says science is no longer debate. John Stewart is on what channel again? It's he on ABC. He's got a YouTube. He's on show that all of us are comedic. He's just he's not funny. That's too much. You know, he's way better than Trevor Noah who just is stepping down from the day of show. That's not even comparable. Because his viewership is horrible. All those people, they just all, or Don Lemon now has a morning show.
Starting point is 01:12:31 I think the recipe, I think, John has the opportunity, because he's smart. John is smart. And fuck John. You're giving too much credit, Pat. John is smart and he's funny. I just don't think he wants to go there
Starting point is 01:12:45 because of whatever other reasons we don't know about. He doesn't come across as a guy that's scared. I don't know. He's bought and sold. I think they got him. He's bought and sold. They got him. That's all. Yeah, to believe it. Did you not see a bunch of sane people, though, that lost their minds the last two years?
Starting point is 01:13:01 The people that you would have said, this is a sane person that completely lost their minds, bought into the fear. There are people by the way who stand by the medical establishment no matter what. They won't question the medical establishment. So even something like this that comes out, you know, maybe they got the vaccine themselves, maybe someone they know got it, they can't think beyond those parameters. It's too troublesome for them. I just want to address one thing that you talked about that I think is really important. Of course, I'll get heat for this, but here it comes. So the male voter that listens to what Bill Maher is saying, someone like a Bill Maher,
Starting point is 01:13:35 I think can be persuaded. We have a problem in this country and it's called the female voter and nobody likes to say it, but it's true. The female voter oftentimes will respond emotionally to these things. Who couldn't stand Trump? Women. Women couldn't stand Trump. They couldn't stand his Twitter account.
Starting point is 01:13:54 They couldn't stand. And I, myself, acknowledged that I even had that reflux at times. I would look and be like, oh, stop doing that. I did so because I felt it was counterproductive to his policy. It was distracting. I knew that he was aggravating women. I was like, don't aggravate them with a Twitter feed. Let them support you with your policy. But there is a segment here that we're talking about and that is women that will respond emotionally to the language of the left, meaning what Tom was talking about going after abortion rights, making this an
Starting point is 01:14:22 emotional debate. If the left wants to win this next election, they have to make this emotional and they have to target women. So I back in women all the time, don't vote based on emotion. Vote based on policy. You've got your kid in a school. Look at what that school looks like. You want your family to be able to have to keep more of their hard earned cash. Vote based on that.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Stop letting them use and abuse you by triggering you emotionally and doing it and you allowing it and winning because that's who that's who isn't going on the left. Women forget it. It's done. You're not going to get them because emotionally, they're going to respond to the climate change and they're going to respond to Joe Biden says this, oh, I love him. He's such a nice guy. He's actually not. He talked about the death of the unvaccinated. We go with the winter of death for the unvaccinated. He's not a nice guy. People, Jimmy Carter, nice guy, Joe Biden's not a nice guy. He's not a nice guy. He's not. He's not anyone who can say the winter of death for the unvaccinated
Starting point is 01:15:16 is not a nice guy. So women just are a problem right now in terms of the way they vote. And they need to, to acknowledge that. And they need to stop voting based on emotion and start voting based on reality. It's just there's no time for that nonsense right now. It's too serious. I think you're right, but it goes the other way too, because this is exactly how Terry McCullough lost in Virginia with three weeks to go because he triggered all of those moms on the school issue. And so the case study with critical
Starting point is 01:15:45 Think what was it? Critical right there is a great area the term of college lost those five points and it shifted and he lost it It's too dangerous to play that game though Tom. Well, Chad. Let me tell you the long saying I'm saying Did he look at that as I agree with you with what you're saying? But I think they look at the terrible call of loss as a case study and how you need to trigger those women. 100% they've been doing it for years. I'll give you a little two cents. I will nominate you for a Nobel Peace Prize, much like Ben Brunacchio here. If you can figure out a way for women to stop acting so emotionally in life. So I nominate you. And in addition to that, I read an article, this kind of was to your initial point. The basic, they're summarizing the midterm elections in probably even 2024 elections with
Starting point is 01:16:28 one paraphrase. Basically, it's your money versus your rights. Essentially, if you're looking at the economy and everything that's happening in the economy and inflation and prices and consumer pricing and all that and you're looking at the economy, clearly you're going to basically go against Biden and Republicans. And when they're pinning an emotional voter, basically your rights. Now this comes down to whether it's abortion rights or LGBT rights or you talked about, you know, if the Republicans are going to lose, go ahead and nominate Trump.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Let's see how that works out for you because all they're going to do is replay January 6th, 4th, the lower, the lower, the lower, the lower, the lower, the lower, the lower, the lower. Pass the pass the pass. Exactly. But I mean, at the end of the day, you are trying to win an election. And I think that obviously, if James Carville said it's the economy stupid, so clearly, I think 2024 is going to be, I'm sorry, 2022 is going to be a blood bath if you're going to vote for the economy.
Starting point is 01:17:20 But don't downplay the emotional voter. Yeah, and your rights, your rights though i mean the nerve honestly the cajonis of these people to talk about your rights on the right you you were you wanted people to lose their jobs because their own medical doctor said don't get this vaccine but the state said you have to get a really you advocated for them to get fired you have to make an argument about privacy you talk about abortion and talk about privacy rights. What about medical privacy? Everyone had to say they were
Starting point is 01:17:48 vaccinated, show a card, a kid had a show a card to walk into a restaurant in New York City. So they have relinquished their ability to talk about rights, about individual liberty, about individual freedom. If they want to make their argument, oh, we're all for rights, because we want to protect a woman's right to murder a baby at full term have fun. Good luck with that Democrats. It's not gonna work though. But I'm telling you it's not gonna work. These ideas there's gonna be the robots that robots were around 2,000 years ago robots were around a thousand years ago robots were around a hundred years ago robots are on today and there's gonna be robots literal robots and about a hundred years the way you know what I mean. It's going to be 20 years.
Starting point is 01:18:25 It's going to be nervous. We've got robots. Imagine that they were robots can vote. Can you imagine when they CNN, like in 20, 21, 32 says robots should have the right to vote. These people have feelings. Can you imagine that they come and Democrats go by 17 million robots and say 17 million robots voted.
Starting point is 01:18:41 Look at them. They can also fall in love. And then, by the way, as funny as this sound Imagine in 20 years when this is actually It's a big laugh. It's gonna happen. And then those robots are gonna be like We can have to find this footage of the day where somebody says robots should have the right to vote Oh my god. And then there's gonna be trying to go robots I'll go the other way. I'll go the other way because you'll have people
Starting point is 01:19:05 that are hacking the robots. Oh my god. Because people are going to have companion robots. You're breadbat, right? Yeah. They have companion robots. So basically what you're going to do to influence the election, you'll find a way to hack the robots so that all the robots
Starting point is 01:19:18 on the other political party get really horny that day so that no one goes out to vote. Wow. Like this doc. To me this. Dominion robots. Can you break down the hornyness of so that no one goes out to vote. Wow, look at this doc. There it is. Dominion robots. Can you break down the hornyness of this robot? I'm just saying the robots will be distracting people.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Oh, I didn't vote to that. I didn't even, I mean, you're going to hold it for a minute. You're talking about like robot porn and robot owned. What is that? It's smoking right now. I'm talking about stuff I've read about what people are actually asking for. This is what you're researching.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Okay, all right, so let's headlines in your talk. Listen, robot will be made in America. That's all I wanna say. Two words made in America, guys. Don't screw around here, Kai. These robots will be two words made in America. I wanna be very specific with that. Anyways, NBA, not NBA National Basketball Association,
Starting point is 01:20:01 NBA applications at top Ivy League universities, see double-digit drops. Okay, wow, that's not good. Double-digit drops. Let's find out why. Well, major NBA programs like Harvard Business School have reported steep drops in applications due to a tight labor market and expensive cost of the degrees which have push many would be applicants away. Undergrad programs are also seen the clients in enrollment as younger generation of high school students are rethinking the value of college degree. As many are beginning to question the return of investment or quality of education Harvard
Starting point is 01:20:38 Business School which has long been regarded as the nation's top business school saw MBA applications tumble by more than 15% the semester working business school the University of Pennsylvania and other MBA program recorded a more than 13% plunge. Tom, thoughts on MBA applications are they no longer as valuable as they once were and why are we seeing these steps of a double digit drops? Well, let's parse it real quick. The first is that the applications are dropping by double digits.
Starting point is 01:21:08 But you have to remember, these schools were only accepting five to 12% in the first place. So the application rate drops, so now they're accepting 10, 15, 20%. Do you see what I mean? But I think this is just the beginning. So the first thing is that, the second part is, is people are cluing into the indoctrination
Starting point is 01:21:27 and college campuses. Everybody knows one of my daughters is getting really close and it's time to do college visits and I went on a couple college visits over the course of the last month. There'll be no more until spring break, but we went on a couple. And I'm not gonna name the institutions,
Starting point is 01:21:44 but I will say there was something in common. There were rational parents that were there with really good achieving kids talking about SAT scores, ACT, but the tour guides in both cases were woke over the top and open about their sexuality and talking about the college campus being this open, welcoming place. And I saw parents looking around saying, okay, it's okay to say, hey, I'm gay on campus, I feel good, there's a lot of good support and everything like that, I have no problem with that. But they went on and on and on and it was like a key part and it was the, everything like that. I have no problem with that, but they went on and on and on, and it was like a key part,
Starting point is 01:22:26 and it was the first part they made. There's a lot of parents that came back, said, you know, I love the business school at this university, but I don't dig that. Tom, Tom, and we're not gonna announce the schools, but these are big names, guys, that we're talking about. Top 20 in the United States. Yeah, you know both schools,
Starting point is 01:22:43 but what do you mean by they kept making an effort? Can you be a little bit more specific without mentioning the school's name? So you go in and sit down and you get an orientation of the admission process. How many people are there with you? Other parents and kids? There's 150 people in the room. 75 kids, 75 parents. Yeah. Really good, rational parents. Everybody I met was very good. They were concerned about their kids' education, asking about financial aid, standard things. The first topic for seven to 10 minutes of this half hour and then a professor speaks, and then they have a couple other student speak
Starting point is 01:23:16 like about athletics and stuff. The first seven to 10 minutes, we want you to know that we think we're one of the most welcoming schools and then they name the conference are in because you know There's like pectin that that that that they named our conference. We're the welcoming. We already have a gender studies courses We already have our school clinic has Gender access to gender reassignment drugs and can even help coordinate surgeries
Starting point is 01:23:43 This is what they were saying at the first seven minutes of the speech. The first ten minutes, I'm at surgeries. Welcome to the University of I. I might take you through. By the way, if you find out what school this is, you would be like, are you kidding me? This is a, this is a, this is a, this is a camera. Yeah, keep going. So ten minutes.
Starting point is 01:24:00 So then they go this, it says, I happen to be gay and I'm part of the students' organizations, things like this and I'm part of these students organizations things like this and I'm ageuring in this and on the general ed we also have these courses that have been added. They're talking about brand new courses, a gender studies course, you know a gender reassignment, the political implications of America course. I'm like that was fast. There's a GE course in social studies that you can now take in this. And they go there finally at like the 12-minute mark. And now I'm going to give you a summary of our school, a business or school of engineering. And they did that elegantly beautifully. I don't care
Starting point is 01:24:33 to be mistaken. He did a great explanation of the rest of the schools. But he opened with this whole woke and everything we do for you before he got into it. You think that is that person's sort of their two cents, their opinion, or is that, you know, induction from the school until a week later, I went to a second school. Oh, wow. And then what happened there?
Starting point is 01:24:54 And the script, the script was the same. And the reaction of parents there was the same saying, you know, I appreciate that there's a diversity of students here, and I fully expect my kids going to be here and working in a world that's very diverse with a lot of different people. But what the hell is that first 10 minutes about? Yeah, now Tom, I don't need the name of the school,
Starting point is 01:25:11 we're gonna respect that. What state is this in? No, you can't give it. I can't even get the same. I don't know. You cannot give it because who different state? I wouldn't say off camera he'll tell you, but you cannot.
Starting point is 01:25:21 Can we get an estimate of the cost, the annual cost to go to a school like that? For the gender reen assignment or like school? No, no, these, both of these schools are in the 60,000 year range where you're talking for. You know what school it is. 42. I mean, his daughter's got a 4.6 GPA.
Starting point is 01:25:36 You know exactly what school it is. These are top 25 schools. And I don't even know we can get higher than a 4.0. So we're going to 4.6. Holy crap, what's happening here. So the point is getting back to the NBA thing. You have a lot of people that are sitting back saying,
Starting point is 01:25:51 OK, is this education or is this indoctrination? And a woman about 50 years old with a daughter who was a very strong athlete and was considering the school for an athletic scholarship that she got. So they're there to go into a tour and they wanted to go to the school of communications and also the business school on this tour. It was a mother that turned and said that, hey, I'm just wondering where education stops
Starting point is 01:26:20 and indoctrination starts. And she goes, wait a minute, or is it where indoctrination stops and the education starts? This question was asked? No, this is the woman turning toward me, a mom. And it was heard by at least eight of us, eight parents that were around there. And so that is a feeling that parents are getting.
Starting point is 01:26:40 So is it any shock that there's applications dropping? As parents are saying, wait a second. And what a beautiful t-shirt. She's, she's outlining. Where is the indoctrination stop and the education start? If we were at a different phase of a run right now, we would build one of the most badass universities worldwide to produce incredible leaders with a constitution that certain things will never be indoctrinated in there like you can never come in a manipulator no matter
Starting point is 01:27:10 after I die or whatever. This is, and by the way, it's not going to be just us. There's going to be other people that are going to start schools today. We're going to hear about them. It's unfortunately it's going to take 20 years for you to hear about the impact they're going to be making. It's going to take a minute for these schools to have a reputation. But this is not going to work long term. It's a turn off. Parents don't want those types of things to be in their faces constantly. It's a big turn off, Tom. And the stats are showing that they don't need to go to these universities and pay the amount that they pay.
Starting point is 01:27:44 COVID was a worsen that happened to the university business model. And on top of that, they're doubling down, thinking, this is like the right thing to do, like 99% for you to go that direction, you have to believe most parents in America think like you think they don't. Most parents in America don't think like these guys think. And they're saying, well, let's open it up with this because the only way a person who's presenting an argument and selling a product which you're selling the school, the only thing you talk like in the first 10 minutes when you present that is because you think that's what the customer is thinking. And they're not. Or the administration,
Starting point is 01:28:16 they're not thinking. And that's a script they gave the kid. But the only reason the administration is telling their students that are presenting this to parents and kids coming in is because they think that's what you're thinking. That's basic sales one on one and parents are not. So a bad idea gets publicly exposed. This is just double dumb at the highest level for them to do this. Go ahead. I just want to ask Tom another question.
Starting point is 01:28:44 So the woke, inclusive transgender stuff aside because that's not the only thing that's happening at these schools. I assume. Absolutely. Okay. So we're talking about these higher and upper echelon schools, the Harvards, the Yales, the Whartons of the world, that applications have gone down 15% correct. So if that is the case, let's extrapolate that. What's going to happen just to the run of the mill average school, right? You're just your state university of New Jersey or, you know, your Oklahoma state records. What's going to happen exactly? So if, you know, because I think we would all agree, if your kid can get into Harvard or Yale or Wharton, you're going to go ahead and figure that out. But, you know, going down the line, you know, you're the number 48 school, you're number 122 school,
Starting point is 01:29:27 what's gonna happen to those schools? That's my question. There's also a thing that Pat's been talking about for a while, it's on the cover of Bloomberg, I think, last two weeks ago, and I talked about that the forgiveness of the student loan debt is not the biggest problem, you know, higher education.
Starting point is 01:29:43 It's also what they've done counter to inflation and what they've done to the cost of it. And so there's like three issues in education right now. Number one is people during COVID discovered, I don't have to be on campus and spend all this to get the same, I was forced to be an online classes and I learned calculus just fine, thank you. I was able to read the book on English literature
Starting point is 01:30:06 and represent my report and debate it a little bit, just fine thank you online to zoom with us. So the first thing is you don't have to be on campus. The second thing is the cost is just completely at a hand. Is this the cover story like Bloomberg a couple weeks ago? Because finally this is Michael Frickin Bloomberg's namesake, running a front page story on the perils of higher education is the cost. And then the third issue is what Pat just brought up, what they think the customer
Starting point is 01:30:38 wants in their echo chamber and what the customer really wants are not the same thing. Yeah. So don't underestimate that mentality that the bubble operates in, though, because you have the same issue that happens with the Washington, D.C., and New York City media elite, which is the reason that people turn on the news sometimes. People in the middle of the country will turn on the news
Starting point is 01:30:59 and say, what are these guys talking about? That's not what's really happening. It's completely disconnected because elites in academia, in media, they just talk amongst themselves, behave amongst themselves, live amongst themselves. They don't get out into the rest of the country and they think everybody agrees with them. They're perfectly comfortable.
Starting point is 01:31:17 They're perfectly comfortable acting like everybody agrees. So they show up and they give a speech and they assume, well, of course, everyone here at this amazing institution must also be in a line with how we think because the rest of you are all red necks. There's a lot of that philosophy that happens. And one thing that Tom said, interesting that the mom who asked that question to you and you said, a group of people, that's a mom to an athlete. So you can guarantee that she's thinking about, well, is my daughter now going to be competing against biological men?
Starting point is 01:31:46 Is this and you I can guarantee you that was going on in her mind. The whole Ivy League swimming. Yes, and one thing I will ask people, which is a really interesting question. People coming out of college in the last decade, are those the most critically thinking people you know? Because the people I know who are the best critical thinkers, oftentimes now, are people who didn't go to college at all. And why is that? Why is that? I'm not talking about the way college was 30 years ago,
Starting point is 01:32:14 20 years ago. I'm talking about the way college has been in the last two decades. It's almost like you raise your children, you raise them with the hope of them being critical thinkers. They go through the school system, they get to college, and they come out of college less able to think for themselves. So, the people that I turn to when I have an issue or a question or I often am turning to people who started businesses, who are entrepreneurs, who know how to think on their
Starting point is 01:32:39 feet, who are independent thinkers, oftentimes those people did not go to college, where a lot of people go to get their brains wrecked. They go to college where a lot of people go to get their brains wrecked. They go to college and all of a sudden they forget how to think for themselves. So parents see that and when you're talking 60K a year, they're saying, why would I send my kid to a place where they're going to come out less able to think for themselves and they would if they never went there at all, that's a completely reasonable assumption to make now.
Starting point is 01:33:01 Yeah, and it's one of those things where, I mean, again, not kids, but I used to go to college and you think, what's the ROI, right? I mean, that's the whole reason you go to college is because I'm gonna spend 50 grand a year, that's 200 grand every four years, but over the course of my lifetime, and if you look at the stats, you know,
Starting point is 01:33:17 people with college degrees tend to earn more overall than people with high school degrees, but now there's extra factors that get involved with like indoctrination and wokeism and just being a part of a cult mentality that those are extra factors that you have to basically have that nuance approach to and have your time. You're basically saying it's not just an ROI thing anymore.
Starting point is 01:33:38 It's what other factors are gonna get involved for my daughter before she goes to school. So what's a not woke university starts? Like a not woke you? That's where you'd want to send your kid to. It's like Hillsdale, that's really it. It's so sane. It's just, yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 01:33:51 Just real and by the way, it's a scary thought that it's only Hillsdale right now. But capitalism works, people will figure out a way to come up with a solution and I'm telling you, the only challenge is gonna take 10 to 20 years because here's how it's gotta happen. And the way to do it, so it's process, the way to do it. You, as the audience says, okay, I'm not happy with this.
Starting point is 01:34:12 You have to go to people who you admire, who are very successful in politics, in business, in life, in church, in whatever may be, And say, look, I really like your ideology. I really like your philosophies. Can you please start a university? Can you tell us what we need to do to go raise some money? Let's go get some people that have money. Let's get $100 million behind this. $50 million behind this.
Starting point is 01:34:38 We need 50 universities like this to get started with $100 million dollar budget. That's $5 billion. But we would like your name to be behind it, your stamp of approval. And then that person's going to say, what? Yes or no? 80% of them are going to say, what?
Starting point is 01:34:51 No, I don't want that kind of responsibility, but 20% could. So I think the same way, like when I went to LA and I sat down with somebody and I said, I think you got a run for governor. And it's as if I dropped the F bomb and I cursed this family out. It's what he's talking about. I said, if you are not happy with stuff that's going on in California, go run. You're an influential person. Go run. Go run for governor. I don't know about that. I don't know about this. I'm like, no, you got to run.
Starting point is 01:35:16 So some people need to have those. If you're close to anybody, that's a massive influencer in business, in church, and military, former in politics, who has the right philosophies and teachings that people admire, when I say people admire in that community, encourage them to put their name behind starting a university. The name could be as simple as, you know, a pixel-modium politics.
Starting point is 01:35:40 Trump University, not the same Trump University, but I'm saying like, pick a name like that, and by the way, it could'm saying like pick a name like that. And by the way, it could be somebody like that, but it could be anyone that you respect in politics in business to start a school. Our kids go to a school and we try to get our school, by the way, Shippewa University, for example, okay. You know, you got Peterson University, okay.
Starting point is 01:36:03 These are the types of things that people should start universities. Okay. And others ought to be asking, Prager universities want the best things that they did. What they've done, we need more organizations like that to create the only difference between Prager US. I'm just watching videos. I want my kids to be around other kids that are like that as well.
Starting point is 01:36:24 I'm not talking channels. I'm talking physical locations where I'm gonna be around other kids that are like that as well. I'm not talking channels. I'm talking physical locations where I'm going to be around other people that I'm meeting people there. He's only taking one little step. And by the way, it's a very big step that they're taking. It's a good, it's a good, fantastic. I would, yeah. I would, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:37 I would send my kid to BU, Bila University 100%. That's how it starts. That's how it starts. If you were a professor, trust me, you you're not gonna learn anything about money at that school Listen the nobius don't even saw you you'd be another school Adam I can hire you to come in and talk money there you go keep the 18 year girls away 21 and over my he will he will volunteer to be the orientation presentation. Yeah, he begins to so Mary let's talk about you for
Starting point is 01:37:09 example, you know, but okay, so by the way, you guys hear about the Nike co-founder donated a million dollars to Republican running. Nike found a new film night. Not the co-founder. It says co-founder in the Fox News story film night, but a million dollars to Republican running for Phil Knight has contributed a million dollars towards Republican governor candidate Christine Drazen campaign and Oregon Knight has previously donated a $3.75 million independent candidates like Betsy Johnson and others but now has shifted his side to the right. Night spending spree shows a staunch opposition to the Democratic candidate for the governor office Tina Kotec. The latest Republican-wend Oregon governor's
Starting point is 01:37:49 office was Vic Atiyet back in 1980 to 40 years ago. While Oregon has not elected a Republican governor in decades, Drazen and Kotec are neck and neck and poles with Drazen even holding a one-point lead according to 38 polling average so this again validates that some people are sitting there saying I don't know And I'm just sick of this I thought independence. We're gonna do it. Dems are not doing it Let me try this this one party that you should never categorize yourself as a Republican I think I'm gonna give a million dollars and what is million dollars. And what is the largest city in Oregon? Portland. And what happened downtown when the woke
Starting point is 01:38:30 people successfully pushed over the defund the police? And what happened to civil order? Bad situation. Was it bad situation? So you know what's happened into those voters? Those voters are back. And those voters are what is in this poll that 538 has. And you've got Phil Knight saying, you know what?
Starting point is 01:38:50 Maybe it's a little different leader we need here. And I think it's that simple. This is a case study. If you leave Oregon alone, it goes 60% liberal. If you just leave it alone, no fire and broomstone, just let it be. The Birkenstocks, the dope, everything, it's 60% liberal. If you just leave it alone, no fire and broomstone, just let it be. The Birkenstocks, the dope, everything, it's 60% dope. That's it.
Starting point is 01:39:10 Right? However, you insert the aftermath of what happened in Portland and the Antifa zone that was downtown. Remember all that went with that? And the governor ran out to a place called Haystacks, which is out on the beach because he was scared because there's the mayor, the mayor of Portland. And now you get what? The voters are coming back and the voter polling says what?
Starting point is 01:39:32 That oh my gosh, for the first time since 1982 or Republican can win. This is a case study, my friend. This is a case study. Woke doesn't work. You can't be a business owner in these crime infested cities and advocate for this. I mean, I just don't understand how you could own a business and watch your business get destroyed, watch people not want to come into the neighborhood because the crime is so bad, watch your sales go down, watch people not want to work at your business because they don't want to live in that area
Starting point is 01:39:59 and not change your mind on some of what's going on. I mean, my concern is do those people pick up their business, go to a place like Florida, go to a place like Texas, and then vote the same horrible way that they did before and now wreck those cities. I would hope not. There has to be some change of mind that happens there where you recognize that what you were doing before in terms of who you were supporting got you into the mess.
Starting point is 01:40:22 So now let's vote differently to keep that new place like you would want it safe and protected with a police force, et cetera. I hope that happens. I don't know. We'll see, we'll see, because we had an influx of people from California and New York moved to places like Florida and Texas.
Starting point is 01:40:36 Let's see what happens there in terms of voting and the dynamics and that. That'll be a great case study as well in the next couple of elections. It'll be interesting to see. By the way, I want to wrap up with the story because Adam wanted to comment on it. The Dwayne Johnson story you said. Hollywood star Dwayne Johnson confirms that running for president is off the table.
Starting point is 01:40:54 The most important thing to me is being a daddy. I love our country and everyone in it. I also love being a daddy. And that's the most important thing to me is being a daddy, especially during this time. This is critical time in my daughter's lives. I know that I know what it's like to be on the road and to be busy that I was absent for a lot of years. The actor continued, the Hollywood star has three children,
Starting point is 01:41:12 four-year-old Tiana Johnson, six-year-old Jasmine Johnson, and his 21-year-old Simone Johnson. So, him saying he's not running. What are your thoughts on this story? I just think good. I'm glad you came out and said it. I think there's just been this propensity for like any Hollywood celebrity
Starting point is 01:41:31 can just be the president now, right? Whether it's Oprah or Tom Hanks or the Rocker. Michelle or any Matthew McConaughey or just go be president because you're popular. I think it takes a little bit more nuance and education. Trump, different type of person because he's been a businessman for all those years and he's been donating to politics for all this long.
Starting point is 01:41:50 And I know that Pat, you said to make it in Hollywood, you kind of have to have some politics and be able to kind of maneuver through the idiosyncrasies and of how a Hollywood works. But I do think, you know, people say they don't want a career politician, which I agree with to a certain extent, but I also don't want someone who's green behind the ears that has never been a politician in their life just because they've been an actor
Starting point is 01:42:14 or a wrestler for 20, 30 years doesn't qualify them to be freaking present in the United States. But do you think it's that hard to be like a president of a country that has a system put in place. I mean, Trump kicked ass policy-wise because he's been pro-America for his whole life. I mean, the powers that be don't let you go off the rails, you know what I mean? So the rock could easily a get the vote and win. And just if he has ideas or whatever, he's not really steering the ship.
Starting point is 01:42:41 I just wonder how long it genuinely truly takes for you to understand how government works. Yeah, okay? Like if you're the rock and you've been just smelling what the rock has been cooking for the last 20 years All of a sudden you know how Philobusters work and how bill becomes a law and and what it takes to negotiate with the other side of the aisle I think we need to give certain Politicians a little more credit for understanding the balance of all that works. I'm not saying I'm giving all politicians credit
Starting point is 01:43:09 because I think the majority of them are fucking idiots. However, certain good politicians do kind of know what they're doing out there. I would hope. What if we did a test? We just take like somebody who's like completely clueless, doesn't know what day it is. Let a committee behind them make decisions
Starting point is 01:43:26 and walk up a flight of the list of the mispronounced things every day and be basically senile put him in his president with the committee run it and just see what happens wait a minute that sounds really familiar that guy's making some shit happen though he's passing laws buddy who's he's not just ignore the nukes that are flying over the top of Japan and Tokyo the fact that we're both deep in Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:43:46 Keep down by it and he just keeps. Oh, we will. No body. We don't have to abide. Someone said this other day. Don't fuck with the bad. What about it? That's her hat.
Starting point is 01:43:55 So, let's add a go back to your point. So, Trump donated and you know was always giving money to politicians. He didn't know nothing about the laws and filibusters and all that shit How was he so successful in that arena? I don't care about the personality and you know him You know talking all the shit. How did he figured out so fast? He changed policies He stopped you know trade with China. He did this He did the country was kicking ass until COVID. How did he figure it out so much if he's such a, he was just, he's just a business-minded big mouth,
Starting point is 01:44:28 you know, troll. How did he figure it out? I would hope that he had smart. I'm your lunch, Martha. Thank you, bloody. I would hope that he had just had smart, well-informed people around him. So, I mean, kudos to having smart people around you.
Starting point is 01:44:40 So problem with Trump is all those people he's surrounded himself, do not want to affiliate with Trump anymore. Like every general, every person around him, like literally everyone, Bill Barr, Mike Pence, he did have people in place that were around him, but he, the problem with Trump is, you know, you can give him credit for hiring the right people, but I don't know why he can't maintain these relationships. Every single one of them want nothing to do with Trump anymore. That's his biggest flaw. The biggest asset you could have as a president is common sense.
Starting point is 01:45:09 You can read up how Bill becomes a law. You can read what a filibuster is. We have a whole bunch of people in Congress and the Senate that know all that stuff. They're completely useless. So what I want is I want somebody who has common sense, preferably somebody who's run a business, people who understand what it means when you raise taxes on somebody, what that does, people who understand basic
Starting point is 01:45:27 concepts like the minimum wage and don't rely on talking points, but have seen those policies actually affect their business. That's what matters to me. I appreciate governors because they've actually run a city or a state, but I don't think you have to know the logistics of government. Government is mostly broken institutions and overstuffed bureaucracy. What you really need is someone in there who's able to think for themselves,
Starting point is 01:45:49 who can hire the right people, who doesn't just surround themselves with yes men, but people who will challenge them as well, who isn't afraid to backtrack on something when they say this is a mistake, let's start redirect course, and who actually views themselves as a result of the representative
Starting point is 01:46:02 of all people in a country. And isn't a person who claims to not be divisive, but behind the scenes is actually incredibly divisive in policy and whatnot. So I actually think that common sense is the biggest asset you can have. Pat, would you ever run Pat, any governor, any, you wouldn't run at all
Starting point is 01:46:20 because everything that she just said, as she was saying it in my head, I'm just like, you know what I run a business, you're not gonna take care of the people, you saying it in my head, I'm just like, you know what I want to do business? You know what I take care of the people? You're in touch with everybody. You love your country. You love the country that you came from. You're really involved.
Starting point is 01:46:32 Never ever will it cross your mind. And be like, you know what? I want to be, I'll be the governor because the Sanctus is probably going to be leaving. You know, yesterday we were having dinner with Kai's family. They're from Norway. Incredible.
Starting point is 01:46:43 Incredible. Is mom in that area? Is mom in that area? Sister's here and we just sat down and talked. Incredible. Is mom and dad are here? It's mom and dad are here. Sisters here. And we just sat down and talked to them. We took them to obviously this restaurant. We've never been to before called. Do they have a call, it's called Balsamic.
Starting point is 01:46:52 It's called Balsamic. He said, He's beautiful. So we go there and Angela comes. He's like, you know, you know, in any way. So I don't want to say because I like to enjoy my lunches. Yeah. So we start talking.
Starting point is 01:47:04 I said, so tell me what Norway's like. Now, the way they met, she's from US. Father is from Norway, okay? And in Norway, anybody can run for office. You don't have to be born in Norway to run for office based on policies that you're having. They got 10 parties. It's very interesting how the 10 parties work.
Starting point is 01:47:23 Like, for example, a leading party can win the majority, but they need the Christian party to help them to win the entire thing. And the Christian party will negotiate and say, we will come and help you win, but only if one of us becomes a prime minister. Oh my God. Such an interesting,
Starting point is 01:47:39 a like-a-go process that they have. But at the same time, their taxes are around 85%. VAT is 25%. Everything you buy, you're paying 25%. I think except food was 12%. Top line taxes are like 45%. Gas, she's like, well, you guys are complaining about eight bucks. We've been paying eight bucks for a long time.
Starting point is 01:47:57 Okay, and what they're doing. Look, they have two trillion dollars of oil reserves when they found out about the oil that they have. I think in 1974, something the year they said, but their policies are different. In the state of Florida, you know, governors, seven years, you have to live in Florida to run for governor.
Starting point is 01:48:14 So we have to wait six and a half more years for Jedadaya to be able to run, she wants to do. And then in America, I think the policies, if they ever change anything for presidency and conversations came up, I would definitely entertain it. But I'm gonna be the kingmaker. My plans are gonna be finding people and giving them a spotlight to help them go around. That's what we're gonna be doing the next 20, 30, 40 years. You already have a press secretary, I'm right here. Come on. I thought she would be one.
Starting point is 01:48:44 Oh my god. I just visualized it. Oh my god. Holy shit. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Holy shit. Oh my god. Yeah. That's a pretty bad. Kaley McAnany was actually no joke. I think you would be an insane press secretary. That's a job. Oh my god. You would be an insane press. Oh yeah. Everyone. I didn't even think about that. Yeah. That's jeddai would be a dangerous person. Oh my God. Boys will take it, will give it, will, go. They should.
Starting point is 01:49:09 I had some conversations about that once, you know, with someone who was gonna potentially really consider this as an yes I did. You would make one hell of a press secretary. Not how they think about it. I'm open to it, give me a call. Yeah, you would be one hell of a press secretary. So Pat Paz, I know we're vibing up.
Starting point is 01:49:22 Is there, is there any inclination about him running at all? Because it looks like he's sitting about. Is he gonna, any inclination? No, I'm just saying. If you see his wife's ad this week, no, I didn't see it. Which is it?
Starting point is 01:49:35 The wife's ad may be one of the best ads. Oh wow. He says, you know, Ron is this, Ron is that. He loves America. He's the way he treats his kids. How he is with her. How he's with the two-year-old with this with that But I'm gonna tell you the rendezvous guys don't know when I had cancer and I didn't know what was gonna happen with me He was there every day. He was picking me up. He was this. He was that it is an
Starting point is 01:49:57 Unbelievably sincere genuine ad with no acting That's not an ad for running for governor. That's an ad for running for you. And she sounds like a first lady. She is for the state of Florida, but she sounds like a first lady for a much bigger job than just a state. But what did the, okay, that happens and he debates Trump on stage and this down to those two. That's going to be in. I can I tell you what happens. Let me tell you where I'm at right now. Those two debate. Yeah. I'm going to tell you what I think is going to be in. I can I tell you what happens. Let me tell you where I'm at right now, if those two debate. Yeah. I'm going to tell you what I think is going to happen
Starting point is 01:50:26 if those two debate. I think if those two debate and Trump does what he does to everybody, I think he's going to help the Santas. I agreed. I think so too. I think he's going to help the Santas. If he takes that playbook, I think if they just go straight up, like, hey, policies, policies, and they kind of talk behind closed doors
Starting point is 01:50:46 Let's see what the majority wants and then let's go from there. I Think that's what like you know the whole thing was going with the Democratic Debate was going peaceful and then all of a sudden Kamala hair said, you know, Joe I really respect you and I really like what you've done with your public service for the last 43 years you and I really like what you've done with your public service for the last 43 years. But you know what sits very hard for me to even think about is what she did to those buses and then and then there was a it just got real. And then that night so there's gonna be a moment if those two are on stage let me tell you prediction. The most viewed it it's going to be more eyeballs watching the sentence and Trump than either one of them against the Democratic Democratic.
Starting point is 01:51:29 I agree. I think that's going to be like pay per view of 100 million people watch. Although, since you just brought up Kamala Harris, remember two debates later, Tulsi ended Kamala Harris's campaign. Ended her campaign with a brutal take down over the three straight and Kamala and it was a brutal take down. And so Kamala Harris is probably very happy that Tulsi is leaving the Democrat Party. Oh, thank God. I want to debate her again. Yeah.
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