PBD Podcast - Home Team | PBD Podcast | Ep. 218

Starting point is 00:00:00 I know this life meant for me. Yeah, why would you plan on good life when we got that David? Value payment, giving values, contagious world, I'm on yourpreneurs, we can't no value to hate it. I didn't run home, you look what I've become. I'm the under one. All right. So, okay, this will be the last podcast we're doing till Christmas.

Starting point is 00:00:30 Excited to spend some time with you guys. Home team, Adam, Tom Bizdock and Vinnie in the house. Yeah. Malik is here as well as Chris Adam Malik. And Tastik is always Chris Adam Malik here with us. A real Malik. Look, a lot's been going on. It's been a crazy minute here. I think Zelensky is going to talk today to Congress

Starting point is 00:00:50 or some likes. Coming to meet Biden. We have a Twitter musk announced. He's stepping down as CEO. He's looking for CEO crazy enough to run Twitter. We'll talk about that. More stuff coming up from Twitter files. What else is it?

Starting point is 00:01:03 Black Adam apparently they're not renewing Uh, this new guy named James uh, what's his name James gun. I think his name is James gun. He's not Bringing in Duane Josh and and they're saying some of this stuff is he rock cost Henry How do you say his last name? Henry Kaville Henry Kaville, his job, Superman. There's a lot of people. Like that, like that, right? Yeah, Jim Kaville.

Starting point is 00:01:29 Well, you got Wells Fargo, Payne, another multi-billion dollar fine. Argentina, everything that's going on there. Yeah, what happened with something big happened with Argentina last week. They did something good. They did something. Yeah, something happened. The soccer tournament. Yeah, and Messi almost got his head chopped off

Starting point is 00:01:45 because he was on top of a, the bus and they had a telephone pole. You know, it's a crazy record. He broke. Like there's so many records he broke, but he broke the record for the most alike post ever on Instagram and the previous record was old through. And all the 45 million to 64 million likes his post.

Starting point is 00:02:04 That is insane to get that big of a number We'll talk about that something's going on with epic games agrees to pay 520 million dollars over FTC investigations into fortnight privacy violations times got some content on that bad people Disney stock on its way to its worse year since 1974 after avatars sequel disappoints and a little bit of has to do with China Cuban out a few things to say about Elon Musk Twitter's new guidelines won't allow certain promotions that's piss on a lot of fans off on Twitter

Starting point is 00:02:38 Anyways, we got a lot of stuff to talk about but Let's you know, we're some big news overnight that I found out what's that what's this? I mean, I can't believe everything that that I found out. What's that? I mean, I can't believe everything that I see on Facebook, especially what's going on these days, but allegedly, it's someone's birthday today. Allegedly, it is your sister's birthday. What is that?

Starting point is 00:02:55 Is it, is it, is it not, is this fake news? It is, it is. Oh, happy birthday, happy birthday. Polette, let's birthday. I saw this pop up on Facebook. I said, is this real? You're text are right now, I'm like like we're live and we're giving you a freaking Yeah, I'm gonna sing Tavailot Tavailot and first see she's actually watching right now. She's really we're gonna sing

Starting point is 00:03:11 Tavailot I love her every time I see pull that What is that? Pull out your lives got something to say go ahead. Hey, let happy birthday. I saw on Facebook Tavailot Tavailot in my boy act my boy act my boy act Tavailot in my boy act that's happy act, my boy act, ta-va-lo, then my boy act. That's happy birthday and for all you people, that's happy birthday, Paulette. I will see you in two hours at your port.

Starting point is 00:03:31 Every time I see Paulette, every time she says the same thing, you're grown on me. You're grown. I love her. She said just, next thing you know, like a bacteria algae,

Starting point is 00:03:41 I'm just gonna take over. Okay, what do we wanna go? What do we wanna go? She says when she doesn't want a curse, but anyway. Yeah. Where do we want to go with this? We got a lot of stuff to get into. I'm just trying to see what direction to go.

Starting point is 00:03:51 You know yesterday I had David Rubenstein on. The founder of Carlaw Group, they managed around $400 billion of money. What's crazy is Jerome Powell worked for him for seven years before he became the Fed share at carlowe group Jerome Powell was at carlowe group seven years. Yeah, so 400 billion four hundred billion dollars they managed. He sits on dukes. He's the chairman of the board for duke.

Starting point is 00:04:17 Chairman of the board for Smithsonian. The amount of things he's done. The amount of money he's given. Kennedy so many different things that he's done but it was a very interesting talking to him about you know certain investing and you know how the market looks at the you know experts I challenge him on some of the things on how much American people have lost trust in experts and then today he says everybody wants to be a podcaster What's interesting about his story is he's the first billionaire ever to start a podcast.

Starting point is 00:04:49 Really? First billionaire to start a podcast. Not first YouTuber to become a billionaire. He's the first billionaire to start a podcast. Any interviews, people like Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jamie Dheiman. He's got some of the best interviews out there in the area of business and he's got the Snoop book come that came out called How to Invest but I thought it was just very interesting with certain topics on you know he's got very close relationship with Joe Biden Joe Biden was at his nan tuck at house for Thanksgiving staying over the they weren't together he made

Starting point is 00:05:19 that very clear. Yeah he just wasn't there I just lent him the keys. I just gave him the keys. And the alarm card. And the alarm card. Yeah, and then, you know, some of the conversation about Jimmy Carter years ago that he was a part of, because he started off being part of Jimmy Carter to worry that today. It's just a, all I can say, it's very interesting how that world views things differently sometimes. Right.

Starting point is 00:05:41 Then the average person that's dealing with the level of skepticism in mainstream media, and, you know, he said, you know, nowadays there's so many different podcasters. People don't know who to trust. People don't know who to do this, you know, Tom, you sound like you want to say something. Go ahead. No, I was saying, yeah. And I was also impressed by what he said about his kids. He said, oh, my kids got their MBA and they're launching successfully.

Starting point is 00:06:02 They don't need a billion dollar each. And I was one of the original signers on the giving pledge. So he's given it all away to things, which I have a lot of respect, you know, building it up and then giving it away to all the needs, CTCs in society. Don't agree with him on everything, but I thought that was a very noble thing. Who started the giving pledge? Was that Gates or Buffett?

Starting point is 00:06:21 That was Buffett. Yeah, Buffett. And they're giving away what? nine percent of their wealth is that the premise die broke die broke liverish would I broke it pat let me get your opinion on this the more and more I see tell me if I'm wrong on this the more and more I see this most billionaires are more democrats but more millionaires are more republicans do I millionaires are more Republicans. Do I have that right? That assessment right? Billionaires more left.

Starting point is 00:06:50 Millionaires. I'm a list that's Rob. That's a, that's, I mean, you go down the, that's something you can get behind. Pretty quickly figure it out. Most, most, most, most billionaires go left. In most Democrats, most billionaires are Democrats Billy devs, you know, Millies, let's repugulate to see to see if there is Google it to see our most billionaires Democrats are Republicans our most billionaires Democrats are Republicans and I'm a thousandaires So Google how much what are we? You're just voting against your own interests

Starting point is 00:07:22 You got billions Go lower. If you go to images, then my, there you go. Our American richest billion, well, that's 2014. Click on it anyways. Let's just see what it says. Yeah. Lots of chains since 2014.

Starting point is 00:07:34 But let's see what it says. Everything's changed. You know, $2.2 million. Americans, richest families, and ebook from Forbes, Glimps, Go the Lower. That's not saying anything. It's not showing a percentage. No, it's not showing a percentage. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:48 Okay. Yeah. I don't anything. It's not showing a percentage. No, it's not showing a percentage. Proofers don't care. Yeah, I don't know. It's a good question. But it's like, as you're making your money, you want to just be left alone. You want to be able to do your thing.

Starting point is 00:07:54 You want to be able to have tax breaks. Everything that a lot of capitalists and people who fear right kind of stand for it. But once you make the billions, you want regulation, you want monopolies, you want like, you don't want to be left alone, yes, but you want the government regulation to be left on. That's what you see all these like tech billionaires

Starting point is 00:08:15 in bed with government subsidies, this, that, the other. I don't know, this is just my kind of speculation, but I figured maybe you have a strong opinion on this. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what to tell you at that part I'll like and tell you is it's very interesting when when you know You get in a circle and you're only talking to people that are relatively in your level You have a hard time understanding what it was like to be a regular person, okay?

Starting point is 00:08:39 There's a different like I'll give you an idea Some people are watching this You know you got big plans for 2023. Let's just say if you're watching the same. I got big plans for 2023 And like, I'll give you an idea. Some people are watching this. You know, you got big plans for 2023. Let's just say, if you're watching this and saying, I got big plans for 2023. We had a business planning workshop this last week. It was a very powerful, had a great time.

Starting point is 00:08:54 We had a session last night strategy session at the office to late last night. Five hour meeting we had last night time. Probably the best one we've ever had. No joke, we just unveiled the Vitamins vision. What we want to do in 23, where we're going to be going in the future, different projects we have,

Starting point is 00:09:08 and all the different leaders working in different departments share their insight and what they're going to be doing. But here's what I will tell you. 2023, it will be, we gave it a name, where we're sitting on a tomahawk, the year name's going to be for the year. We're calling it the year building character, okay?

Starting point is 00:09:25 And to me what I mean by year building character, if you say gonna do something do it, okay? You're not gonna get 100% score on this. You're just not. Because 100% means no matter what numbers you put, you're gonna hit 100% of your goals. If you hit 100% of your goals, your goals were too small. If you hit 20% of your goals, your goals were either out of whack

Starting point is 00:09:44 and you were not really sitting down thinking about the goals you're 20% of your goals, your goals were either out of whack and you were not really sitting down thinking about the goals, you're just kind of treating it like homework, but you ought to hit about 80% of your goals when you're writing them down because some of them should be as stretchers like, how the hell am I going to hit this number, it would make you fight for it. But the only reason why you will hit your goals for 2023 is because you're more concerned about who you're becoming as a human being than the actual goal. Character building is about saying,

Starting point is 00:10:08 I'm gonna do XYZ, working your tail off for hitting that goal. Antonio Brown is sitting right here. And I'm trying to find this video. I've got a somewhere around here. Antonio Brown is sitting right here. We're going back and forth during that podcast where we're talking to him. And in one of the sessions, he says,

Starting point is 00:10:26 you ain't, you don't know where I'm from, I'm from Liberty City. I'm from Liberty City, I'm from, he kept saying that, I'm like, dude, I'm from LA. Yeah, but you grew up in a nice part of it, and I'm like, dude, you know, Liberty City, people get shot, I'm like, dude, and Iran, we get bombed. Yeah, but you don't understand this, this, I'm like, dude,

Starting point is 00:10:43 this is just gonna go places. So I said, you know what, fine, no problem, Antonio't understand this, this, I'm like, this is just gonna go places. So I said, you know what, fine, no problem Antonio Brown, you know what I'm gonna do, Rob? I'm gonna text this to you to show this video. I said, I'm gonna go, you just declined it. I'm gonna go to Liberty City. Liberty City, yeah. And you know what I'm gonna do?

Starting point is 00:10:59 I'm gonna go be a cash, and not a cashier, a bagger at Windixies. Sick. I'm gonna wear the whole, what do you call it? Uniform. I'm gonna wear the apron, I'm gonna put the apron on. I'm gonna go up there for an hour and act like I'm working there and everyone's coming up to me.

Starting point is 00:11:16 If you can play the video for people to see, Eric, if you guys can show this year, press play. Yeah, that's me right there at Liberty City, okay, talking to customers, that's heaven, my cashier. I just don't look like I belong at this place. At all, you're too tall. You're too tall. You're too tall. You can, you can.

Starting point is 00:11:34 That's six, four, bagger over here. But you know what's fun, everybody's coming up and they're looking and they're like, what the hell is wrong with this, got being a bagger, right? And I'm talking to everybody, hey, Yolanda, how are you? Tell me your story, you know, how old's your son?

Starting point is 00:11:46 Five months old. Where are the diapers? How can we not buy any diapers? Oh, we can't. I can't afford any diapers. I don't know. We got to get you some diapers. The mom looks at me like the grandma,

Starting point is 00:11:55 like her mom, not the kid's mom, grandma of the kid. We do need diapers, but we ain't got the money for right now. It's said, how many months? Five months. What aisle? I go to aisle number five

Starting point is 00:12:05 and I pick up all the every single diaper box they had for five month old baby, I pick it up, I bring it. She's like, no, no, we don't want to buy it. I said, how about I pay for it? But you work here. I said, let me just pay for it. So, you know, I'm doing my part and I'm talking to everybody.

Starting point is 00:12:20 Why, I want to know what people are like in Windixie and you're going to find out about, not Windixi in Liberty City. By the way, while we're there, Sam got the video of this. Sam, if you can send those clips to Michael to add the video as well, there's a shooting right across the street. Two people get shot. They're moving. I mean, this is a he's right about what the city is like. It's not a safest place.

Starting point is 00:12:43 Not a good. Anyways, we're talking to all these people. And then long story short, next person comes like, I'm like, who are you? I'm just a regular person. No, you're not. Why are you paying for everyone's groceries? I spend probably $4,000, $5,000 buying everyone's groceries. Eventually, after 30 minutes,

Starting point is 00:12:56 everybody was going to out number seven. That's so funny. We got to clean up. We're here for 75 million dollars. Paul, I'm like, I'm only only gonna be you for now in 50 minutes. But it was, it was learned as a, tell me about the city, what is this place like? Where are you from?

Starting point is 00:13:10 What's the Liberty City? How much has changed? The cop that was there with us, she was working at Windexy 20 years ago and everybody was talking to her. She's like, you realize that at this Windexy 20 years ago there was a shooting every day. You realize where you are.

Starting point is 00:13:21 It's a really, yeah. Anyways, and one lady says, so why are you doing this? I said, look man, I came from a family, you know, my dad was a cashier at a 90 and I sent store. And you're that was there too. And you're that was everything. And I said, my dad is standing right there.

Starting point is 00:13:33 My dad was standing right next to me, just like 20 feet away watching the whole thing. Yeah. So very unique experience for this whole thing. This is my biggest challenge for people watching this. Okay. And what the point I was trying to make with David Rubinstein, I know we can go into the topics.

Starting point is 00:13:47 If you're doing very, very, very well in life, if 2022 was a magical year for you financially, you'll have more money than you've ever had. You're driving nicer cars than you've ever driven. You're going to the best restaurants regular. You're getting more respect than you ever have gotten before. Go to the complete opposite communities to get some perspective to realize how things are in different places and give back by choice. I don't like force. That's taxes. I like choice. Do it by choice and learn and take your family. Let them also kind of see what that looks like because that's

Starting point is 00:14:23 a paradigm shift that those need who are doing very well. But flip it. If 2022 was a shittier for you, you went through a divorce, it wasn't fun, it wasn't exciting, bad breakup, you know, I'm talking to one of the guys yesterday, he's going through it right now, he's in the middle of a divorce, he thought it was going to be easy, it's not, it's ugly, you know, everything's getting involved, they didn't's not an ass. It's not a nice situation that he's going through So it's a rough year form if you're in a place where things are not going right you lost 400,000 dollars and Bitcoin you were expecting to be a millionaire now you're barely a thousand error and things are not going right

Starting point is 00:14:59 Do the complete opposite side to get a paradigm shift? Go to a Ferrari dealership and ask the guy to sit in a Ferrari and just to kind of see how the salesperson treats you. Go to a real tour and go to an open house or a five million dollar home, dream home in a community you like to live in. Go give yourself a paradigm shift. But whatever you do going into 2023, the one thing that's for sure, nothing's going to change dramatically unless if you put all the pressure and building character and create environments for you to have a paradigm shift. Whether it's for you, your kids, your family, the people you lead, start 2023

Starting point is 00:15:33 with that. Right before this, the only reason why we started podcasts at 923 is because today was a Christmas, what do you call it when the school does a Christmas you know like a event where the kids were doing what they were doing, I was there today with all my kids, and send a singing, it was a Gilligan's Island play, which was awesome, right? What time was this? It was at 8.30, I was like,

Starting point is 00:15:52 I just got here right after that. And then we're off to going to spending time with the family for Christmas. But I always think about, like, talking to Rubenstein, I wonder if they're only talking to billionaires, if they're only talking to people that are instein I wonder if they're only talking to billionaires if they're only talking to people that are in their situations

Starting point is 00:16:07 if they're only talking to rich people and not realizing the other side does not trust mainstream media the other side does not trust the government you can have to be able to hear both sides out we were just watching a video by Joe Manchin Joe Manchin's being asked by Jake Tapper so are you leaving the party says listen man I'm gonna vote the same the same way I've always voted this is who I am whether I change parties or not that's on me because I think Kristen's cinema

Starting point is 00:16:29 Kristen so everybody's asking if you've got to be wanted look create 2020 create some paradigm shift moments for yourself to make 2023 the beginning of the greatest years of your life and it starts with being intentional not letting you be accidental anyways that was my biggest thing with talking with David Rubinstein how all that makes sense with each other, I don't know, but it does to me. So in my own way, that's kind of what I got from sitting out with David Rubinstein. Sometimes we need to be a paradigm shift.

Starting point is 00:16:52 There's the talking points memo with PBD this morning. Yeah, whatever you want to call that. I think it makes complete sense what you're saying. Fantastic, I mean. Yeah, and I go ahead and say what you're gonna say. No, you're talking about, if you think, ultimately what you're saying is like, it's the holiday season, and you know, it's better to give them receive.

Starting point is 00:17:09 I mean, we talked about this on our podcast with the other day. Like, you went to Windixie, right? And you're seeing how the other side lives. Like, every single year, I go to the special Olympics. So whether you're rich, wealthy, broke, poor, when you see people that are just, I mean, these are the people who are the most hurting in society can barely function.

Starting point is 00:17:31 And the job of your job when you go to the Special Olympics is to be a hugger. Your job is to be a hugger, meaning when they finish the race, it is your job to hug them. And I'm telling you, the first place finisher and the last place finisher has the biggest smile on their face, cause they finish the race. So whatever you're dealing with,

Starting point is 00:17:53 no matter whether it's family issues, money issues, divorce, kids, this, that, the other, everyone's got issues. When you go to a place like that, the special Olympics, you realize, holy shit, I've got some gratitude. I would tell you, I think everybody needs to do things like that, to have, to create paradigm shifts. For a decade, we would go to Skid Row every morning.

Starting point is 00:18:14 Christmas, if you were part of my sales team, you had to be at the office at four o'clock in the morning, Christmas morning. Imagine what an annoying sales team to be a part of. Cars would line up, they're all looking at me pissed off, no makeup on, and we'd go to Skid Row, we'd give away 200 hamburgers all this other stuff. I think you gotta do it.

Starting point is 00:18:27 I think for your own sake. But again, the other side too, like go the other side too. Go stay at the most expensive hotel and where everybody stays at to kind of get a feel, wow, this is kind of what it feels like. You gotta do both. That is also an investment. You gotta, when I was poor, I had nothing to my name.

Starting point is 00:18:44 I wanted to go rob elbows with killers, meaning like people that were winning and to kind of say, this is what this lifestyle looks like at rodeo drive-over leo's hotel. This is what it feels like at montage. This is what it feels like at Pelican. Wow, this is what it feels like at the, you know, Pebble Beach, interesting.

Starting point is 00:19:01 Okay, cool. I just spend this money, but damn, I want more of this. I want my family to experience this. What if one day, the question becomes the what if one day? When any time a sentence starts with what if one day, imagine if one day we need to spend more using that sentence in 2022, 2023 in a positive way. What if one day your dreams do become a reality?

Starting point is 00:19:24 Anyways, it's a time to be thinking about that. I don't wanna go too much longer on this. Let's just go into topics. Beautiful, but that's some thoughts right there. Okay, so Tom, let's start off with Disney. Let's start off with Disney. So page number six, we're gonna go do some business and then we're going to Twitter files

Starting point is 00:19:39 and I'll give a shout out to our sponsor here in a minute as well. It's a gun company by the way, out of all. Yes. All right, so Disney, stock stock on its way to worse years since 1974 after Avatar sequel Disappoints. This is market watch story. This is a share of sank nearly 5% to its nearly

Starting point is 00:19:55 to its lowest level since March 2020. On Monday after the blockbuster sequel and one of the priciest movies in Hollywood history fell short of the hype. And it's opening weekend Avatar, the way of water hauled in 134 million hours C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C.C. markets for the franchise, China. Disney had opened to, had hope to clean up in China with a first movie in 2009 that blocked by the business the way of water and 57.1 million dollars there, which Disney described in a Wall Street Journal report as disappointing, but understandable. The problem is nobody wants to go to the cinema because they've been told that COVID is extremely dangerous. Tony Chambers, Disney Global, head of theatrical

Starting point is 00:20:44 distribution set time. What are your thoughts on the story? Well, first of all, this is why Disney has a new CEO, folks. This is why Bob Eiger is back in doing a his own version of, you know, a reality show to rebuild the house. So, the avatar is gonna be just fine, and I think this is gonna be the biggest movie of all time.

Starting point is 00:21:05 If you think about everything you have to do to put on an event, it's like we do the vault event here at Value Taiment, you can't move the date, you can't change things, there's hotels, there's travel, everything is in place. This movie was in place, and no one could have predicted just how big World Cup was gonna be, number one.

Starting point is 00:21:24 No one could predict that COVID would have another Cup was gonna be. Number one, no one could predicted that COVID would have another wave come through and China starts telling people to stay home or that you would have civil unrest and many parts of China over Apple labor practices at those factories. Yet, yet, so I don't look at it this way. Oh, I have a target meet expectations.

Starting point is 00:21:41 I find it kind of unbelievable. They did as much as they did against those headwinds. So they got new CEO, they got this and I think the avatar is going to be just fine. I think this is going to be sitting there at number one when everything is counted later on. This would be biggest movie, biggest box on. And Pat, you saw it, right? Yeah, I did. You like like, like, and I'm a movie buff. I haven't seen a year. I heard, I heard two conflicting sides from Maverick and everybody. They said, Maverick said, it was three hours and 10 minutes. He goes, they didn't need that extra 10 minutes.

Starting point is 00:22:08 After three minutes, three hours, your body's like, okay, what's going on? What are you from rating it from storyline? I mean, graphics, I mean, they've had 15 years with technology. What would you give? What would you rank the movie? I, listen, I thought the story was great. It started very slow, you know.

Starting point is 00:22:24 They had to kind of bring you back. Obviously, maybe the reason was because it's been so long. I don't know. I think the movie could have been done in two hours and 40 minutes. It didn't need to be three hours and 12 minutes. I would have been fine with two hours and 40 minutes. I agree. I'm okay with that part.

Starting point is 00:22:37 It's very emotional at the end. The story is about how your kids eventually lead your family and parents end up needing kids to rely on, which is a very emotional message that the way he did it, it was very, very, he tugged at your heart constantly for the last 40 minutes. I mean, I've walked out a movie so many times in the first half hour, one hour.

Starting point is 00:23:01 If you do that with this movie, you'll be disappointed because the last 30, 40 minutes is worth it. Here's the other part. China, of course, makes sense for them to have the kind of numbers that they have to, they can't be disappointed with that. You can't do anything when politics get involved in China.

Starting point is 00:23:16 That's not the movie's fault. That's not Cameron's fault. He says we need to make two billion to break even. That is an insane number to say they need to break even. Here's the other thing that nobody is talking about on why Avatar didn't hit the numbers. You ready? Avatar came out the weekend of the World Cup.

Starting point is 00:23:33 Who the hell is talking Avatar? Yeah, exactly. Nobody. You got three billion people that watch the World Cup give or take, little over three billion people. You think three billion people are sitting there saying, so Adam, what did you think about Avatar? If Avatar would, let me give you a prediction.

Starting point is 00:23:49 If Avatar would have waited one week on when to come out, they would have done numbers and even more. They screwed up on timing. What are you doing coming out on the weekend of World Cup? Like honestly, Mr. CMO, whoever the CMO is, what the hell were you thinking? Like you know the calendar, You know when the world cup Freakin is you can't change it one weekend. Yeah, you can't go one weekend before or one weekend after like I thought the timing of it

Starting point is 00:24:14 Was out of whack, but I will tell you this I think this number is going to there's some people that are upset with the fact that they showed Pragnet warriors. I don't know if you saw that or not. They're already getting that much. The wolf mob is starting, they're already talking. Yeah, if you wanted like the whole concept of, you know, not the wolf mob. Yeah, exactly. The whole like they wanted a pregnant warrior to say, hey, you know, we wanted to kind of highlight women.

Starting point is 00:24:42 We felt sympathy for women pregnant. So we want to say that pregnant women can be warriors. Fine, I understand what he's trying to do. I don't think it makes any sense to be quite frank with you. I'm sure back in the days, you didn't have a choice. If you were having to fight and I do believe back in the days if a pregnant mother had to be forced to protect her kids, she probably would have fought.

Starting point is 00:25:05 So it may not resonate with the average person today. I was talking to somebody the other day who said, you know, my mom gave birth to me. I said, yeah, my mom also gave birth. She says, no, no, you don't understand. My mom was walking and all of a sudden, you know, she's not in America, she's living in Mexico, I was born. And she's holding me with my umbellical cord and she went to the neighbor and a neighbor

Starting point is 00:25:32 who was half blind, no joke, cut it, and that's how I was born. Now today, if you say that to the average person, what will they say? What an irresponsible mom. What's wrong with you? I mean, a thousand years ago, everybody was doing that. It's not like you were going to the doctor calling Blue Cross Blue Shields and, hey, can I set up my C-section? There was none of that thousand years ago. It's wrong with me? Thousand years ago, everybody was doing that. It's not like you were going to the doctor, calling Blue Cross Blue Shields and hey, can I set up my C-section?

Starting point is 00:25:47 That was none of that thousand years ago. It's a different time. So a little bit of reach, there was no LGBTQ type of a thing where parents can feel safe about that part when they're watching this. James Cameron didn't play the games with that. I do think this is going to end up making a ton of money and it's not going to slow down.

Starting point is 00:26:04 That's what I would say about Avatar. And it'll hit HBO or something within a month? I don't know. I got a movie recommendation for the people out there. This might be a little controversial. We're talking about Avatar. We're talking about Black Adam, you know, what number are we on on the adventures or whatever. Don't listen to this message if you have kids, if you're married with kids,

Starting point is 00:26:26 or if you're taking your girl in a date night. But if you're a dude out there, let's say you're 16 and older, here's what movie you should watch this year. Zero movies, okay? If you're working and you don't have money saved up, you're not in shape, you're 20 pounds overweight, you haven't done a business plan yet, You don't have a chicken in your life.

Starting point is 00:26:46 You're not doing anything. You don't have a purpose. You haven't done your business plan. You haven't done anything. You get to watch zero movies this year. You get to watch zero Netflix shows this year. There's no video games for you this year until you clean up your act.

Starting point is 00:26:59 There's so many men out there that are watching movies that know that they're on Avengers 17. They're on Superman 7. They're on a vendure 17, they're on Superman 7, they're on Spider-Man 19, I watch zero movies. You guys are talking about Avatar That's Girl, you've got kids respect, the kids need to see that. If I don't have kids, or if I'm not a date night, my girl, there's no movies for you.

Starting point is 00:27:19 You're struggling, homie. Like I'm just saying, most dudes out there, two out of three people in America living paycheck to paycheck, you don't get to see three people in America live in paycheck to paycheck You don't get to see movies and tear off the paycheck to paycheck wheel. That's my opinion. I haven't gone I haven't gone because there hasn't been anything worth me watching, but I mean I'm a complete opposite. I'm not Magi but you know I'm a movie buff me Mario test me all the time. I'll say one word from a movie Yeah, I'm not talking about movies from the 90s. Yeah, I know When we were kids, of course.

Starting point is 00:27:45 You're a kid. Go see a movie. When it comes to hip hop, I stop with biggie and all of them back in the day and then when it comes to films. But what? I mean, kind of, I would go if it was good, but off of Adam's thing, how expensive is for 3D?

Starting point is 00:27:58 How much is the ticket, popcorn, food, drink, for one is perfect. Oh, and person's experience, how much is it, Pat? For 3D. I can even tell you, I don't know. I buy the tickets online and at 14 bucks 15 bucks 20 bucks. No, right now they're like for what's the 3D No, for 3D soda and a popcorn. I'd be willing to bat national average about 30 bucks. Cuz I think that's gonna be like a 19 dollar ticket, right?

Starting point is 00:28:18 I was gonna say at least a $20. This is 14 bucks. This is for regular. Yeah, regular ticket. Yeah, but that's Matt Nay. So it's one o'clock. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,. Nay. So it's one of clock. Oh, no, no, no, no. For 3D, I heard it was like almost $40. Really? Plus everything. Yeah, you have to wear the goggles and all that shit. It's not cheap, bro. So I could see where Adam like every because I mean, some people watch two movies a week. There you go. $20 and 43 cents for a couple of weeks. There you go. You figure popcorns, 10 bucks in a drink. You're spending 40 bucks for one person.

Starting point is 00:28:41 It's easy for one person. Yeah. It's a poor person. I can't afford it. 40. That is insane. I don't disagree. I will tell you, for me, when I was broke and I was bust in my ass, movies were my therapy. For me to go to a matinee, get away from everybody and watch I am legend with a form of escape

Starting point is 00:28:59 without needing a therapist. Movies have done that for me, but we understand Adam is an unorthodox type of guy. He doesn't believe in driving. Yeah, box love He has his horse parked outside Tom you're trying to say something on the movie side. I think you're gonna say something. No, I am But I will You know, I think there's a lot of movies out there that are not exactly family friendly. And I'm really thrilled to see Avatar. My girls, my kids, they love the Marvels,

Starting point is 00:29:28 they love the Avengers, they love that series. We love Top Gun, so there's glimmers of hope in there that are movies, but I agree, Pat. You know, you look at it like this. I think a movie is a great experience, and I think it's an uplifting experience because you drop down into an immersive story and you get to look at the story and it touches you.

Starting point is 00:29:50 I am legend, things like that. And I disagree. I think movies is a rather cost effective escape. And to your point, Vinny, you don't have to go to the 730, you know, Friday night, you know, high-deaf theater with 3D for real D and they get paid for the glasses and everything, you know, you can go to standard theaters

Starting point is 00:30:11 and enjoy, but I think it's an escape, there's positive messages, it's stirs your soul, stirs your thoughts, I'm on that page. But I wish there was more. That's a favorite movie of all time. Give you a favorite movie. Me, it's got father too. Okay, what's yours?

Starting point is 00:30:25 Good fellows. What's yours? Jaws. Jaws? Anything with Vince Vaughn, Swinger's old, Redding fire, put gladiator, probably gladiator, I'll put gladiator. But I can watch it. Here's my point, those movies, like they don't make movies like they used to.

Starting point is 00:30:48 It's all just Marvel, CGI. I agree with that. I agree with that. And by the way, to your point, because I know you have strong feelings on movies. When you were going, because you've told that story, you'd go by yourself, what phase of your life were you in at that point? 27 years old. Okay. So here's where I'm going with this. You were of your life were you in at that point? 27 years old. Okay.

Starting point is 00:31:05 So here's where I'm going with this. You were in your building phase. You were creating a company. You were working at WFG at the point you were. So the point is this, you're a scape for those two hours because you needed to decompress for all the shit you were dealing with. This is one you were in the army.

Starting point is 00:31:21 This isn't when you were at ballies. This is when you were broke. Oh, I couldn't afford. Army we would watch movies in the barracks. Bro, bro you were at Bally's. This is when you were broke. You could afford. Army, we would watch movies in the barracks. Bro, yeah. But you're making $600 a month, dude. You can't do a lot of things. I feel you on that.

Starting point is 00:31:31 But I guess my point is this. If you're, like, for instance, for me, I'm reading, I'm watching YouTube, I'm reading articles. I don't watch any TV. But if I need to escape, I'll watch a half hour of sign fell to whatever. Yes, I do agree. You need some escape, listen. you're starting to really piss me off

Starting point is 00:31:52 I have to tell you about this gun then if that's what you're gonna do. I'm gonna tell you about this gun Yeah, I start talking trash about movies. Pat pulls out a gun. This right here folks. Let me just tell you for me We get a lot of sponsors yesterday company came here to the office and Let me just tell you, for me, we get a lot of sponsors. Yesterday, a company came here to the office and they wanted us to sponsor. And I just told the guys, listen, I understand your offer on the table is very attractive. It's a massive multi-six figure check for sponsorship.

Starting point is 00:32:16 I don't use the product. I don't use the product and I'm not, I can't talk on the product. I know nothing about the product. Anything that I talk about, either I understand that there's a need for it as a business person or I use it. This is one of the companies that we reached out to Berna.

Starting point is 00:32:32 A guy named John who works for us, he's nearly a seven figure earner out of Orlando, I wanna say, he shows me this in his Lambo. He says, Pat, look what I just bought. I said, what are you doing carrying the gun here? Is that legal? He says, yeah, this is legal. You can carry this.

Starting point is 00:32:44 You can have it in your car. It's legal. You just have to be 18. I said, you are you doing carrying a gun here? Is that legal? He says, yeah, this is legal. You can carry this. You can have it in your car. It's legal. You just have to be 18. I said, you carrying a gun, maybe in Florida, not on the, he says, nope. All other states, I said, how's that even possible? He says, because it's not bullets. It's projectiles. Wow.

Starting point is 00:32:56 And I said, projectiles, what do you mean? He says, this projectile, when you shoot somebody with this projectile, you're not going to kill them. You're not going to go to jail. It drops them. And they can't breed. jail. It drops them and they can't breed for 30 to 35 minutes. They can't breed. I mean, they can't breed. There's pepper.

Starting point is 00:33:12 There's pepper projectile. You literally, if you see the video for this, so they came down, their CMO, CO flew out, they came out of here, their value trainers, they brought the whole crew, they had a whole video on it, they had a bunch of our guys shoot the guns outside, they have one of them, that's a rifle as well. Anyways, eventually I said, look, guys,

Starting point is 00:33:30 if you're a salesperson, if you're an Uber driver, if you're somebody that's a, you do Uber E, so you do lift, you're out there running appointments, you run a small business, but you don't wanna have a gun because you don't wanna get arrested, and you're not trying to kill anybody, you're just trying to stop somebody, so you can call the cops, so they can come to you, and you're not trying to kill anybody. You're just trying to stop somebody so you can call the cops that it can come to you and

Starting point is 00:33:46 you have enough ample time for people to stop. You may want a gift for 2023 for somebody. You may want to buy them a burner gun. And this burner gun when I called, I said, I want this thing to be optional for everybody to buy. I want our guys to have a discount. So that's exactly what we negotiated. The link is right there.

Starting point is 00:34:04 If you're trying to buy something to protect yourself going into next year, next year's going to be a discount. So that's exactly what we negotiated. The link is right there. If you're trying to buy something to protect yourself going into next year, some next year's gonna be Europe investigation. It's gonna be very, very weird. You're with a lot of people going back and forth, especially coming closer to election time. Highly recommend you buy one of this for you. If you have a wife, there's this sales,

Starting point is 00:34:19 highly recommend you buy it for her, your daughter, yourself, your sales team, anybody and everybody that's out there seeing a lot of different people, but you don't want to get it. You're your pro-second amendment or you're not a pro-second amendment person. This is the gun for you to make sure you can protect yourself. The moment you point to that, somebody, the first thing they see is all they think about, it's a real gun and you can protect yourself, again, legal in all 50 states. Let's put a link below so people can take advantage of it.

Starting point is 00:34:44 Adam, you really pissed me off. That's why I wanted to kind of go around. Yeah, I will never talk trash about the movie. I'm just gonna say it was like the end of it. Thank you very much to our sponsor, Berna. The biz doc babe has one that's in the car. She stops free. Yes, she stops for gas.

Starting point is 00:34:57 Yes, I do. I bought one. And if she stops for gas, she knows that she's got basically pepper spray on steroids if somebody comes up because there's, you know, you see around the United States, there's muggings that happen right there at the, where you're getting gas and other things like this. So I feel better that she's safe.

Starting point is 00:35:14 Oh, and I saw, I just saw pictures of the air and shoulders of the welds in the stomach. Oh my god. Let me explain something to you. I've been, have you ever been hit paintball? Of course. I got hit with one on the back. I dropped the gun and I'm like, I am finished. I'm not playing anymore.

Starting point is 00:35:27 Congratulations. Now we imagine this with pepper. When you have a hard time with eyes, breathing, all of that. And Pat, and here's the thing, because I'm a gun owner. I have like seven guns still in Cali. I have guns here.

Starting point is 00:35:38 It's once you pull the trigger on a gun in real life, real time, even though you're protecting your life, if that person lives that's coming to attack you to kill you, they can sue you for trying to kill them. With this gun, with this weapon, it's still, cause it might do, they have pepper and they just have regular kinetic world

Starting point is 00:35:56 just hit you and drop you without the pepper. But I'm telling you right now, that's one of the, how much, could we get a discount on this bike? Is that one? Anybody that buys it, they get it discount. Anybody that buys it, anything you buy, you buy the back? Yeah, or by the way, anybody that buys it, they get a discount, anybody that buys it.

Starting point is 00:36:05 Anything you buy, you buy the projectiles, the guns, the rifle, they give you a full discount. It's on the link that we have to go through it. You can get a bunch of discount when you buy the product. Yeah, I mean, by the way, people are going to buy two, three thousand dollars worth of stuff because they're buying three, four, four, friends, and family, but anyways, that's great.

Starting point is 00:36:21 So there you have it. That's one thing I personally reached out, they haven't paid us This is just purely a affiliate deal. We don't do affiliates with anybody. We only do paid sponsorship This is one where I said I trust the product people need this by the way PD uses it the a uses it a bunch of government organizations use it For themselves as well. Okay, all right, so let's go to let's wrap up the avatar part Do you know it's a's wrap up the avatar part.

Starting point is 00:36:45 Do you know what's a crazy story about the avatar? Is the story with Matt Damon, where James Cameron told him get over it. Titanic director James Cameron tells him that he had to stay beating himself up or turning that avatar in 2009 for born film. In 2019, Damon 52 revealed he was courted by director James Cameron to star in Avatar in 2009

Starting point is 00:37:03 but rejected a deal that would have been Seeing him get 10% of the movie box office profits earning him you ready 250 million eyes, but the Titanic movie maker has little sympathy for the Hollywood heavyweight and has said he needs to get over it He's beating himself up for this and I really think you know Matt You're kind of a like one of the biggest movie stars in the world get over it but he had to do another born film which was on his runway and there was nothing we could do about that so he had to regretfully decline. There's a certain thing like by the way everybody in Hollywood has a story like this. Of course. Almost everybody in Hollywood has a story like British. Yeah, like'll smith with Matrix.

Starting point is 00:37:45 Perry Will Smith was supposed to be Neo, but he was like, nah, I'm good. I don't think it's gonna do that well. Yeah, future, whatever. Matrix, come here. You can't blame like how do you know? How do you know to say? Yeah, your agent has a big,

Starting point is 00:37:57 your agent has a huge thing. How do you know what she was gonna do? What I mean, you saw what's going on with DC right now, dropping, you know, Superman, Henry, dropping, the rock, Twain Johnson, where he had to tweet about it yesterday. What happened? Yeah, he tweeted about it yesterday, say, my passionate friends, I wanted to give you a long awaited black Adam, because he stopped following Marvel and he stopped, I'm sorry,

Starting point is 00:38:15 he stopped following DC's Instagram account and he stopped following black Adam on Instagram. Black Widowman, why did you unfollow them? What? So, uh, update regarding the character's future in the new DC universe. James Gunn and I connected and Black Adam will not be in their first chapter story telling Howard DC and 7 bucks. I've agreed to continue exploring the most valuable ways Black Adam can be utilized in a future DC universe chapters.

Starting point is 00:38:37 James and I have known each other for years and have always rooted for each other to succeed. It's no different now and I will always root for DC and Marvel to win and win big. You guys know me and I have very thick skin and you can always count on me to be direct with my words. These decisions made by James and DC leadership represent their vision of DC

Starting point is 00:38:57 through their creative lens. After 15 years of relentless hard work to finally make Black Adam a very proud of the film we delivered for fans worldwide. I will always look back on fan reaction make Black Adam a very proud of the film. We delivered for fans worldwide. I will always look back on fan reaction to Black Adam when tremendous. Gratitude, humility and love. We did great, et cetera, et cetera.

Starting point is 00:39:12 Thank you, thank you, thank you. What a hell of a month. And now we all need some more termana. So there you go. I'll first take you. And speaking of Dwayne, I mean, Joe Rogan's still going after him talking about coming clean with- He did, when did he go out there?

Starting point is 00:39:26 We're doing steroids, because I see it in the miscellaneous, but what I'm saying is, like, we interviewed, what's his name recently, right? Liverpool King, did you see the video recently of him in Hollywood? He's on Roe Dayle, you know that big intersection powered by shopping, and he's standing there

Starting point is 00:39:39 in some lady with a camera. I don't know if she was TMZ or not. She was, hey, what are you doing? And he goes, steroids. What's it look like I'm doing? And then he goes, leave me alone, lady, he goes in the middle of the intersection and starts doing deadlifts.

Starting point is 00:39:50 So he's back at it and I love that Adam was like, so are you gonna stop doing steroids? He's just looking, he's like, hell no! Yeah, this is it Pat. So he's like, she was like, you be the body. I see somebody working out. He goes, I'm doing steroids.

Starting point is 00:40:02 That's the only way to be. Okay. And the name is Leber King. He rewinded it, rewinded it. He said at the beginning pat look Posit you know what they'll get for it That he doesn't give a shit anymore That was he's already done the one question. I asked the liver I said hey listen you got caught bro.

Starting point is 00:40:27 Why would you stop steroids at this point? Oh my God, it's like clearly you're addicted to it. Go for it. It's like no, I owe it to the people. I'm like, you don't know shit. I think for a second, keep doing your steroids. I think for a second to see, keep back. For his investors, Adam, he had to be like, you know guys,

Starting point is 00:40:40 I'm really sorry and you know, but now I'm just like steroids. He doesn't think of a shit. He can have a needle in his neck. Nobody would give a damn. You needle night. And he walks into the middle of the intersection. He starts doing that. So what was your point?

Starting point is 00:40:51 You're saying that he's still calling out the rock about doing steroids. I mean, me and him, I don't know if you guys paid attention that much to me and Pam. I'm huge into working out. What's huge when I was in the military. We knew that he was on steroids. Did you know, liver king?

Starting point is 00:41:03 Like did you even care? I don't know, looking at the liver king, I kind of speculated. Yeah, he was yok the military. We knew that he was on steroids. Did you know, Liverpool King, did you even care? I don't know, looking at the Liverpool King, I kind of speculated, maybe. He was yokas whole, Liverpool King, I have been using steroids. He was juicing, okay, we all know that. But like the rock, he's America's, like he's the A-list number one,

Starting point is 00:41:18 like all these guys, do you even care? Like, I know some people don't give a damn if he comes clean or comes like a juror, I think you were talking about the rock. I think that's what you're talking about., I know some people don't give a damn if he comes clean or comes like a juror who you're talking about the rock. I think that's what you're talking about. So I'm saying that is these walls like the rock is he supposed to come to play like? I don't know why, like, Pat, why is the rock? Why is Rogan so all over the rock?

Starting point is 00:41:35 Yeah, I will tell you why. I will tell you why. You know, back in the 90s, these bodybuilders, which is a very unique thing that these guys did and it was kind of funny. It's the funniest video. Old video of bodybuilders with their faces. Let me see if I can find this clip. Old face, yeah, that's the one.

Starting point is 00:42:01 Where they're saying, you know, I use steroids, yeah, I do this, but they have their faces blurry. As if nobody can tell who it is, because there's only a few people that are that massive and they're telling the truth about steroids. But nobody build a wanted to say that they're on steroids. So it was like that one secret thing that you wouldn't tell anybody. Everybody knew that we're doing it.

Starting point is 00:42:21 Yeah. Nobody wanted to reveal that they're doing it, right? Kind of like smoking weed back in the days was like, hey, this guy's smoking weed, you know, he's this. Where today it's kind of like, you know, people looking in different way. Not go, we're not endorsing. You were just saying it's, you want to smoke cigarettes?

Starting point is 00:42:35 You want to smoke weed, go. Today, you know, when you're like, I'm naturally this big. Right. I'm naturally this big. This is all natural. That relax bro. Like, you know, when it's like, these are my natural breast. Right. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:42:48 We had one lady that we work with where I was there when she got the procedure done 15 years later in a meeting saying, mine are natural. I'm like, so some people are like, listen, man. What do you, well, like, what do you get from saying that? Yeah. So that is the part where some people just don't like when, if you're on it, just say you're on it. Nobody cares about steroids the way they did 30 years ago, but some people just want to say, I'm naturally like this because I've great genetics. Yeah, because that's one of the different stories I'll back is some, because TRT, I'm getting Facebook ads of hate. If you low and test testosterone, they'll give you an, you know, you can get injections

Starting point is 00:43:26 every week. TRT, but that is a, that's a form of stereo. That's how it's an ass. Is that still serious? So then take like Joe, Joe Rogan admits that he's on it. He's on TRT. Of course, he's talked about it openly, but again, why, why do 11 million people tune into Joe Rogan?

Starting point is 00:43:42 Why interesting good, good interviews and he's honest. Straight. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just Joe Rogan. Why? Interesting good, good interviews and he's honest. Great. This is great. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just Joe Rogan. This is who I am. I do steroids. I smoke it. I'm not going to drink this month.

Starting point is 00:43:52 Again, do, you know, such and such. We're going to do this and we're going to do that. And he opinions, I don't know. I used to, I like Bernie Sanders. I don't know about this. And I like this. He's just like, he's evolving in front of your face. He's true.

Starting point is 00:44:03 Everybody's growing up with him. Like, you know, if you were to say who Joe is, Joe is the modern day Johnny Carson for podcast. I like all the people freaking loved Johnny Carson. Period. So all he's saying is if you're using it, do just talk about your using who gives a shit, nobody gives it, but don't act like you're naturally that big because you're not. Yeah. And Rogan's also a Renaissance man, whether it's but don't act like you're naturally that big, because you're not. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:44:25 And Rogan's also a Renaissance man, whether it's comedy, whether it's UFC, whether it's intellectual, whether it's asking good questions, whether it's like I saw him just, he does his ice bath thing every morning. It hurts. It's just he's so well-rounded and people respect him. And I don't understand the beef with the rock though.

Starting point is 00:44:44 Yeah, that's what I was curious about the climate. The climate tree. There is there is conflict out there because the rock's been in men's health talking about cod that how much cod he eats every day puts it in fish. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Put some these plastic containers and it's like two and a half pounds of cod every day with no oil, no butter. And so there have been times where he's seems like he's gone out there on a limb pat and to say,

Starting point is 00:45:06 oh, this is my routine. I left it this time and so I was just curious what that spark was. It got Rogan to say, hey, dude. I think he doesn't like bullshit artists. And by the way, there's a part of it that here's what another thing people don't like about what rocks done a couple times,

Starting point is 00:45:23 which is, I uh, I, I support the stuff that he does. I buy his shoes. I have his shirt. I watched black Adam. I thought it was a okay movie. I thought it was better than other DC movies. I don't say it's the greatest DC movie of all time. But, uh, you know, it's almost a feeling I got with talking to our guest yesterday is so concerned about what everybody in their world will say. Like, he comes out supporting Joe Rogan and then a video comes out of Joe Rogan of what he said 15 years ago. Very disappointed to see this. I can't support that. And then Joe, what? What? It's like, okay, you know, I understand, you know, you're doing what you're doing. And then same thing

Starting point is 00:46:10 he did with Logan Paul, where he's doing all this stuff with Logan and telling Logan to take all the picture of us down because they have the same agent. That's probably the part that doesn't sit well with Joe. Yeah, I don't know. I haven't spoken to Joe about this, but that's probably what doesn't sit well. I may be fully wrong. I'll tell you what's unique about Joe. Yeah. Because whether you're talking about our guests yesterday, whether you're talking about the rock, whether you're talking about politicians, a list actors, once you've made it, you don't want to, you don't want to say anything or do anything to put you back to normalcy. Like, you just want to play it safe. It's almost like that conversation we brought up yesterday

Starting point is 00:46:44 when you spoke to the billionaire. Yeah. Where he basically said there's two types of people in the world. There's the people have already made their billions and they just want to keep it. Mm-hmm. Versus the person that's still on the come-up and trying to grind and trying to make that money. But if you're in this camp and you're already worth hundreds of millions of dollars of billions of dollars or you're a public figure, the last thing you want to do is get, you know,

Starting point is 00:47:05 chop down and go back to the bottom of the totem pole. Everything we've seen with me too, and cancel culture, and you know, believe all women, everything, you got to play close to the vest these days. And I think that's why people respect Rogan is because despite being an a-lister, despite making all the money, he's still like, I'm still me, baby.

Starting point is 00:47:22 I'm still me. And that's why he has so much respect. But most people are going to kind of play it close to the vest so they don't have to deal with their look. Ramaphacan. If we're in business together, I expect you to defend me. I expect you to support me. I expect you to, you know, have my back. There's a relationship kind of like all the people, you know, Joe, they have that relationship. But, you know, if you're off, I'm going to say, hey, man, you're off. You know, I don't agree. And then we can hash it out and have a conversation on certain things that we do. Some of it is private, some of

Starting point is 00:47:54 it is public, some of it is no one's business on what you do. You're on someone I'm saying. And then in this space, like when you're somebody that's the best in your space, Joe's the goat in his space. And Rock is a high spade actor of all time. He's the best in your space, Joe's the goat in his space, and Rock is a high-spade actor of all time. He's the goat of his space in, you know, $124 million he made in a year. I think those records are gonna be broken two years ago, Forbes said he made one 24-year-in-29. That's a big number right there to make as an actor.

Starting point is 00:48:16 There's some mutual respect of like, Federer hanging out with Tiger Woods. Roger Federer doesn't say, you know what, Tiger, after what came out with those 16 girls, you and I can no longer talk to each other. Yeah. Can you imagine if Roger said that's like, I don't know. I don't, I don't, was it they have a relationship to Roger and Tiger? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Michael Jordan and Tiger Rob rock and Rogan. Did they have a relationship? Well, no,

Starting point is 00:48:38 there was leading towards that. All I'm saying is goats with goats. There's a certain level of mutual respect you ought to have for that, but Hollywood makes some of these guys actually scared and they back off a little bit because they're worried about what the publicists, it's the life you live, like what the tape calls out, the word he uses, the is they're they're they're bowing down to what a publicist is telling them to say okay and and you ought to have a conversation with that person but there's different kind of publicists like we had a gal over at our house tonight so I said he says let me tell my specialties here's my specialties challenges companies go through where it's like social media or online crisis,

Starting point is 00:49:26 you're going through and everybody's targeting you, definition of character. Let me take what the traditional PR from what we'll tell you to do. Traditional PR from what we'll tell you, here's the format of the letter to write of the tweet and the video to make on how to apologize. He says, that's not us.

Starting point is 00:49:42 Here's what we do. We say, yeah, I have to up here, I meant for this, but let me also go back and say this. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. And I boom. So the format of Hollywood is this format. I'm sorry, I apologize. You know, I get better. I get better, which is fine. I get better is fine, but it's constant like fear of losing this. Spotlight, the favors from Hollywood is too much. And look, some people can do it. There's a lot of people that cannot do it.

Starting point is 00:50:12 There's a lot of people that cannot do this kind of. And those are the guys that are doing things in the country. It's almost like in football, like when you're playing, you're playing defense or offense. Like if you're up by three touchdowns with two minutes left, you're just going to prevent defense. So if you're making $250 million a year,

Starting point is 00:50:26 you're the rock. Like, just don't screw this up. Just don't screw this up. So only a few people are willing to just put their neck on the line and Rogan's one of them, Trump's one of them. And they're saying, yeah, I'm worth billions, but I don't care if half the country hates me or I don't care if I piss people off.

Starting point is 00:50:44 I'm gonna go for what I want. So like them or not, you got to respect those people that don't play it close to the vest. Awesome. Let's talk about this $1.7 trillion bill that they're putting ahead of us, more money to print folks, just so you know, lawmakers unveil $1.7 trillion bill to avoid shutdown. Boost Ukraine, AP news, congressional leaders unveil a government government-wide a 1.7 trillion out-of-spending package Tuesday that includes another large round of a to-Rook Ukraine

Starting point is 00:51:11 Nearly a 10% boost in defense spending and roughly for it says 40 billion. It's 46 billion Mostly to assist communities across the country recovering from drought hurricane and other natural disasters. I think we're over 120 billion right now, given to Ukraine. The bill which runs for 4,155 pages includes $772 billion for non-defense discretion in program and 858 for defense.

Starting point is 00:51:36 The spending package includes $45 billion in emergency assistance to the Ukraine. It would be the biggest American infusion of assisting yet to Ukraine above even President Biden's $37 billion emergency request and ensure that funds flows to the war effort for months to come. Legislation also includes historic revisions to federal election law that aim any future presidents candidates from trying to overturn.

Starting point is 00:52:00 But here's an interesting number to give to you guys. What a portion of the number went to when I tell you this, I don't know how you're going to react to it. I thought I was a little bit surprised by this number. Here's what it was. Here's what it was. $2.6 billion went to US attorneys for January six attack prosecution. How much?

Starting point is 00:52:19 $2.6 billion. Billion. Billion dollars. Trump's net worth. On, let me say that one more time. Do you hear what I said? Billion or a million. Billion. Billion. Billion, billion dollars, Trump's net worth. Let me say that one more time. Do you hear what I said? Billion or a million? Billion. Two point six, built, by the way, if you're like,

Starting point is 00:52:28 let me not say this. No, I believe so. So people are thinking like, so, two point six billion, just went to lawyers, okay? Let me give you this CNN article. Just go to CNN article that says the 1.7 trillion, just type CNN article. That says the 1.7 trillion. Just type in 1.7 trillion, 1.7 trillion CNN. Go to the first article that says,

Starting point is 00:52:50 here's what's in the 1.8, there you go. Because so keep going lower. Just everybody knows what the story's coming from. Go lower, lower, lower, lower, lower. Right around there if you can zoom in a little bit. If you can zoom in a little bit. Are you seeing what? Do you see it or no?

Starting point is 00:53:04 2.6 billion. The bill will provide 2.6 billion dollars for US attorneys, which would include funding efforts to the further support prosecutions related to the January 6 attack on the capital in domestic. 2.6 billion dollars and legal fees. Jesus Christ. I mean, am I the only one that reads this and says, what the? Okay. So let's break that. Do you know how many how many lawyers you would have to give 2.6 million dollars and

Starting point is 00:53:31 fees for this? Let's do the math. Okay. What's 2.6 billion dollars divided by say a thousand. Take, take, take, find a thousand names that they're going to do you really? They're going to be giving a thousand lawyers 2. six million dollars a thousand that said a thousand lawyers are going to get two point six million dollars what are we talking about and by the way by the way this is prosecution not defense defenses what expenses prosecution you build an indictment and put it on the table yeah by the way another eleven point three billion goes to the FBI okay now they're going to work the worst thirty nine billion goes to the FBI. Okay, another 11 point. The worst. $39 billion goes to the Justice Department.

Starting point is 00:54:06 So, I mean, they're just, and then they're doing a ban on TikTok. Couple of things they had didn't make it in there, but Ukraine gets another $47 billion. What are your thoughts on this atom? With this $1.7 trillion automobile? Well, I haven't gotten to all the details, but I think we can all realize that whatever the bill is,

Starting point is 00:54:23 whatever the proposal is, is not the law. Meaning like they're going to negotiate this. So whether you want to civics class in eighth grade, the House proposes this, the Senate gets the vote on it, they negotiate, this thing could be less than a trillion at the end of the day here. So I mean, I'm glad that we're highlighting some of the nonsense because there's going to be arguments, there's going to be filibusters. There's going to be all sorts of points and counterpoints. And we'll see where it ends up. I, you know, it's, it does seem egregious. However, I remember not too long ago when one trillion dollars was a big deal.

Starting point is 00:54:59 Now we're talking multi trillion dollar spending bills and it's just the norm. So it doesn't get out of control. Here's my question to you. How much after all that said and done, how much do you think that $2.6 billion would go down? Because mind you, that's one question number two. The fact that they're trying to get that much for these people is ridiculous. Run for another $45 billion.

Starting point is 00:55:21 So you're creating them. Rob, what'd you say? Rob, Rob actually read all 4155 pages. Rob, what would you say about the salmon loses the best. Oh, yes. $65 million are going to go to restoring Pacific salmon populations. Three million for what they call be friendly highways and then an additional five million in further spending for salmon.

Starting point is 00:55:43 Dude, here's, and and and and and. Sometimes it's not what's in a bill that they're going to spend it on. Sometimes it's what they prohibit. And what is prohibited? That not one penny in this $1.7 billion bill. You go trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion. Not one penny can go toward border defense. That one.

Starting point is 00:56:03 I read that today. It's a clause in the bill. Not one penny can be, it defense. That one, I read that today. So clause in the bill. Not one penny can be, it's in the bill that says none of this appropriation may be directed to border defense, but that they are spending $410 million towards border security for other nations and people. Such Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Tunisia, Tanzania Egypt Tunisia Tanzania Tunisia and Omen come on the league but what

Starting point is 00:56:29 What so so here's a question Republican Democrat independent libertarian I don't give a shit about politics. Whatever party you're part of What do you mean not a penny is gonna be going to the border and we're having two million people record breaking exactly amount of people coming up here fentanyl issues that were having like you know how do you process that we say zero dollars going to be spent on the board of a were spending on other people how do you process that well i think what's happening right now so the new congress comes in what early january january twenty-a-th so basically we

Starting point is 00:56:59 out we all know we just have the midterms a month and a half ago whatever this happens every two to four years where before the new Congress comes in, they're gonna try to get some shit passed. You know, what's the term that they talk about? Pork spending or pork belly where you just kind of throw in a bunch of nonsense into a bill and be like, let's get this, get this, get this, it's sort of like a wish list. You're right. We'll see what happens here.

Starting point is 00:57:22 I don't know what you feel about this to pass question. Now I didn't interrupt you. I'm also supposed to be interrupting you. You're right. You'll see what happens here. I don't know what you feel about this to pass question. Now I interrupt you. I'm also supposed to be interrupting you. But you're job at that though. Okay, your question. I got the world cup of interruptions. What do you think about? Okay, that's what's happening. But what do you think about what's in that? And that to say, nothing for border security. Yeah, well, I think that's unfortunate. I think what's going on in the border right now is a mess. But I mean, well, you think we're going to solve the border security right now on this podcast?

Starting point is 00:57:49 It's been a fucking mess. Out of 20 years. Do you realize like, nice, but we'll hang on a second. A podcast is to give opinions. I agree. It's not to give regular, like, just a questions being asked. What do you think? I think that, yes, we should have some money going towards border security. like just a questions being asked, what do you think?

Starting point is 00:58:05 I think that yes, we should have some money going towards border security. But ultimately, what am I saying here? This is a negotiation. We're acting like this is the end all be all and this is our draft. No, but they're trying to finish this up before Christmas. Yeah, but we'll see if that happens.

Starting point is 00:58:21 I guarantee you when we're gonna look back at this in a couple of weeks or in a couple of months, it'd be like, yeah, it should turn out to be none of what they proposed. It's a proposal. So in any negotiation, you start here and you end up here. So we'll see what happens here.

Starting point is 00:58:36 And I'm saying this, this is my opinion, okay? The reason that the left wants all these open borders is because say what you want. All these people are coming in are votes. And I'm not saying the illegals can vote, but their children, their grandchildren, they're trying to destroy us in tradition. I don't care what anybody says, bro. You think that these people are so pro-immigration illegals because they love these people?

Starting point is 00:59:00 Really think about that, bro. I know a bunch of liberal psychos in California. I'm like, you're so open. Come on, everybody, come in. What are you doing to help them? You're not letting them come into your freaking house. Remember Adam, you always say follow the money. Okay, follow why?

Starting point is 00:59:15 That $1 for secure in the border. Why are they so open? Why do they love open borders? Those people's kids, grandkids all becomes votes, and that trust me, when they come in and say, hey, remember who let you in here? The right, the Republicans were like,

Starting point is 00:59:30 the hell with you, the racist, your rapist, but now, remember, Democrat, always vote Democrat, and that's how these cats keep going. You're right, you're right, period. And by the way, they get to vote too. You go on the state of California, and you can go get an ID, and with that ID, you can then vote, and that's why they don't want voter identification,. And with that ID, you can then vote.

Starting point is 00:59:45 And that's why they don't want voter identification. And they say, oh, that's vote suppression. It is. In a way, it is vote suppression because you want illegals to vote. So by your definition, on the other side, they're a definition, it's vote suppression. But it's them voting too.

Starting point is 01:00:00 You're correct, but I added that, that they want the people walking across, not just children or grandchildren, they want them voting too. It's a voting block. It's a voting block for Socialist Control. And didn't they, in New York, do you remember, I guess in New York, they passed the law where, do you look at up, Robert Lee, Fazbro, that in New York, illegal can vote now. I don't know for mayoral candidate or for the presidency, but New York voting law,

Starting point is 01:00:24 non-citizen, I think they allowed non-citizens to vote. What happened this year? What I will say is I don't understand the whole, the ID to vote thing. That should not be a big deal. You got to have an ID to go get liquor, you got to get an ID to go to the airport, you got to go to an ID to go anywhere at this point. But they're saying it's racist to ask for ID for a job.

Starting point is 01:00:42 I don't agree with that. I don't like it was racist. Yeah, I think that's racist. It's. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It was racist. Yeah, I think that's it. It's racist. I'm happy that you agree with that. But it's like, you have to always say, why, why, why, why are they so anti, they're helping borders overseas, but they don't give a shit about us here. It, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it Crane. 400 million dollars to other people's border. Not one penny to us.

Starting point is 01:01:05 2.6 billion dollars to lawyers for January 6th. That's given a thousand lawyers 2.61 million dollars. It's a very weird situation where, again, the average person has to sit there and say, like, do they think the voters are dumb like you know are these guys that are sitting there negotiating are they really pushing the envelope are they all kissing each other's ass to help be reelected I don't know I don't know again another reason why the American people don't trust these people as much as they did before the American people don't trust mainstream media and the government as much as they did before. They can go back and negotiate and see what happens,

Starting point is 01:01:46 but just the fact that you're not even putting the issue of the border there says a lot about you. FYI, this is why 2023 is gonna be investigations galore, all year long, all year long it's gonna be investigations, especially if McCarthy takes over. Pack it, catch your, just not to go on subject. When investigations, do you think the FBI, who's gonna go after the FBI? This is the second time that they were caught meddling with the election.

Starting point is 01:02:12 2016, they did it with Hillary and the collusion. It was all bullshit with Peter Stroke and Lisa Page and all those combing, all those corrupt idiots. Now, because of the Twitter dump, the Twitter files, we just found out that they were colluding with big tech, the sensor, all the stories. But are they, can they get it? Who's going to investigate the FBI? They're in charge, the DOJ.

Starting point is 01:02:31 Who's going to go after those guys? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, of course. Are those investigations going to happen? It's going to take until a new president comes in to really go, take a little deeper. The first person that's going to do that is going to be the Santa. I mean, just look at what the Santa, let's go, let's go on about the past story guys, we got, we're not getting opinions,

Starting point is 01:02:46 we'll go to the next one. So the Santas story about ESG, okay, page seven. So GOP versus ESG, why Florida governor around the Santas Republicans are fighting Vogue ESG investing, okay? So Vogue ESG investing, and there's a lot of this going on right now. Why do Republicans have a problemoke ESG investing and there's a lot of this going on right now. Why do Republicans have a problem with ESG?

Starting point is 01:03:08 The acronym for Environmental Social Governance Principles isn't widely known outside investment circles, but it's fast becoming a popular GOP talking point in the run-up to 2024 presidential election. The GOP says the top nation's top money managers are pushing an ideological agenda at the expense of financial returns in violation of their fiduciary duty in an effort to stop public pension funds from using ESG as a consideration when making investment decisions, red states from Texas to West Virginia have pulled billions from BlackRock and other money managers despite concerns that doing so may hurt. Financially, they also launched investigations into the influence of big money managers on everything

Starting point is 01:03:47 from reducing emissions to racial justice. Pretty pathetic what's going on here, but here's what DeSantis did. DeSantis is like, I'm just not gonna be playing this card. Look, they give a score to companies. Tom, why don't you talk about what ESG is, so the listener can kind of get a better idea? Well, there's two things. There's ESG and then there's DEI. And what DEI is a, just talk about

Starting point is 01:04:10 that first really quick, DEI is a fair measurement of women, minorities, and all the groups that are in your company. The more diversity means you're reflecting the community and you've got fair hiring practices and everybody comes on. That's DEI. ESG is different and people get the two confused. DEI is not a bad thing. It's a sign that companies are doing things and many people have an opportunity to work for you.

Starting point is 01:04:35 ESG is where you are taking political, unproven, and positional elements, and you're pulling them into your company to operate for them, such as certain environmental things, and certain governance things. So when you take a look at it, you're going from DEI where you're doing good things, you can count with all the wonderful people that represent society as a whole,

Starting point is 01:05:02 they're a part of your company. To ESG, that's kind of, I think, and maybe. And what it's forcing people to do is make oddball decisions that don't optimize it. And I'll give you a simple example. The states operate 529 plans. And people with this little $500 can start putting into a tax-free college savings account for their kids.

Starting point is 01:05:24 Many people, millions and millions of Americans have it. You don't have to have a million dollars dollars can start putting into a tax-free college savings account for their kids. Many people, millions and millions of Americans have it. You don't have to have a million dollars to put money in a 529 so it earns tax-free so there's something for your kids for college. But now, the funds that are in there that are governed by the states, they're following these ESG principles and it is showing that it doesn't optimize the return. So people are gonna be losing out on things like 401Ks and on a 529 tax-free fund that you're in Iowa, you put 500 bucks in, find a way to put a couple hundred bucks a year,

Starting point is 01:05:55 see if it grows and you have college fund for your kid, but instead the money managers are putting handcuffs and are forced to make ESG investment decisions. And when they do that, it's de-optimizing the return. It's a fact. I'm sorry, you don't have enough environmental investment. Well, we don't think that's prudent right now. We're looking at the market.

Starting point is 01:06:14 We're investing in technology, medicine, these kinds of things. And we think that's all good. Energy sector looks good right now. Consumer like blue jeans and other things. These companies look good. And we're making objective decisions about what we're investing in. And the fun, sorry, where's your investment in, you know, in environmental carbon credit, you know, recruitment?

Starting point is 01:06:33 And it's like, wait a minute. You know, you're forcing these fund managers to do things that they wouldn't normally do. Because a fund manager is agnostic about one thing. Do these particular sub funds and money make money? Are they going to make money? Because he wants to get he or she want to get a good grade for managing the fund. And ESG is forcing, they're calling it woke, that's forcing money managers into making decisions. They wouldn't normally make for your retirement, your college fund, everything else.

Starting point is 01:07:03 Sorry for the long answer, but this one grinds my gears in a very big way. It de-optimizes what fund managers and money managers are supposed to be doing for Americans' retirements and 529 plans and things like that. By the way, I give you an idea. Who do you think, what company do you think in America as the ICSG score?

Starting point is 01:07:20 Alphabet. Alphabet. Number two. Yeah, Google. Number two, Intel. Google. Number two. Intel. Number three. Microsoft.

Starting point is 01:07:28 Yeah. Number four. Salesforce. Number five. Bank of America. Okay. I mean, you look at the names. Tesla has a low ESG score.

Starting point is 01:07:38 They don't have a good ESG score. I don't know if you know what Elon Musk called ESG. He came out and flat out just said, yes, she's a scam. Oh wow. Yeah, he flat out say, yes, she's a scam and they're using it as a way to manipulate Shemaat, big critic of ESG, and he believes in climate change.

Starting point is 01:07:53 Shemaat is like, I'm a pro climate change guy. I believe in climate change, but I believe he is a scam. So Musk tweeted, yes, she's a scam. It has been weaponized by phony social justice warriors. They target people like Elon Musk. They target people that are not willing to bend. And yeah, Exxon is rated as a top 10 best in the world

Starting point is 01:08:15 for environment, social governance by SMP 5Wile. Tesla didn't make the list. Think about this. Exxon. Exxon is top 10 best in the world for environment and best love. Well, you know what that means? Here's the manipulation. So exon can go out there and by carbon credits, you get points for that.

Starting point is 01:08:35 They can go out and do virtue signaling by supporting, you know, you know, local charities that are active on this. But meanwhile, they're a fossil fuel, you know, manufacturer and processor. So you can game it. If anyone has ever been part of a company where you have a sales plan and you get a commission to do this and this and this, and it's not just a straight commission, there's a couple of the incentives in it. Sales people will game the plan.

Starting point is 01:09:05 Won't they Pat? They'll try and define ways to go around and optimize. I know what you're talking about. I've never warned them. No, no, no, no, I don't mean you, Pat, but I mean, come on, what do you mean you people, Thomas? What do you mean you say you failed? You're a middle-aged man.

Starting point is 01:09:16 I understand what you're saying. I get what you're saying. No, no, no, no, it's anybody. I'm sorry. You people, when I meant that, anybody who's run a company or is run consulting or is run things like the vault and everything that Pat runs, you run into companies who are trying to run sales campaigns

Starting point is 01:09:30 and do good things for the sales guys and they say, my sales guy's just finding ways around it. And I say, well, you need to think it over because the sales person's gonna find the best way to manage it. Well, guess what, big companies are doing that with ESG. Virtue signaling and other kind of fake investing to get their ESG points.

Starting point is 01:09:45 So if they score on ESG and it really had nothing to do, did anything really move the ball. So I'm with you. When Exxon's up there on that, you're like, how are you scoring this? And how did they play the game? And they got the points for doing it. Maybe it's a couple of million to Bernie's campaign. There's another 200 ESG points. It's probably, I bet you, if you peel the sunion back, it's some pretty nefarious, pretty ferrous scoring system. Yeah, so anyways, we'll see what's gonna happen here. You can ask about the, much like kind of like, the term woke wasn't always a bad term.

Starting point is 01:10:19 Like five years ago when it sort of came into the nomenclature and meant like, all right, you kind of get what's going on and it's kind of taken a life of its own these days now if it's woke You're it's a bad term. I guess my question is when ESG started Was it like all right? It's sustainable investing. It's stakeholder capitalism I were concerned about the environment. We are concerned about green energy concerned about Air pollution clean water, you know all these things you see these companies Blackrock apple and video PayPal Verizon Walmart about air pollution, clean water, all these things. You see these companies, BlackRock, Apple, Nvidia, PayPal, Verizon, Walmart, Hilton, the list goes on and on.

Starting point is 01:10:51 So what changed? Meaning, initially it was a good idea. All right, let's invest in companies that care about communities or the earth or well-being, much like how woke was like, let's address issues that plague society and social society issues. But at some point, it's taken a turn for the worse. Like what Elon has said is like,

Starting point is 01:11:10 all right, it's gone completely overboard. It's gone completely woke. At the end of the day, does it just come down to returns? Is that the problem? Is that they're so concerned with social issues rather than return? Just think about what Elon just said. Exxon is top 10, and Tesla's not on the list. So, so when you think about Exxon,

Starting point is 01:11:28 what give me, I'm gonna give you a word. Let's play word game. Ready? I'm gonna give you a word. You tell me one word that comes to mind. Michael Jordan. Basketball. Go.

Starting point is 01:11:37 Messy. Go. Namer. Brazil. Trump. America. Biden. Sleepy. Sanders. So communist. Exxon. Brazil, Trump, America, Biden, sleepy sanders, communist, exon, oil, Tesla, electric, green

Starting point is 01:11:52 energy. Like, you realize like, I don't know if like, yeah, no, I get it. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so So the same people on the left that are saying we should get away from oil give a top 10 to exon And the company Tesla who has created the movement of Electric cars to get away from using gas Vehicles is not on the list just because exon has said, I'm gonna do good things, please forgive me. And Tesla says, yeah, we're doing good things. I don't wanna publicize it, but this is how we're doing good things,

Starting point is 01:12:32 but Tesla gets a bad score. This is hypocrisy at its best. And Elon is absolutely right in this interview. So, do you understand the point of making here too? No, I completely, and that's where I'm asking, where it went wrong, meaning the initial where they went wrong. Right.

Starting point is 01:12:48 So it's kind of like this. Let me give you an idea what it means. How was the question about how credit scores and what do you call it? Measure, okay. How is credit score measured, like FICA scores? How's it measured, okay? Experience, Equifax, TransUnion, whatever, okay.

Starting point is 01:13:03 Imagine you make all your payments on time. You make every single payment for your house, your rent, your credit cards, everything's on time, and you manage your credit well. Okay. But, but you don't use a credit card by AMEX because AMEX gives XYZ amount of money to a climate change organization because of that your credit score went from a 780s to 620. Now, B of A doesn't want to give you a loan to buy a house. This is the best explanation I can give you for what this is.

Starting point is 01:13:35 The method of counting successful credit score which is paying your shit on time has been manipulated on who you're not giving money to. Wow. How to help this, I make any sense. That's the best way to explain ESG. Does that make sense? Makes complete sense.

Starting point is 01:13:51 And so, and he actually- He should get judged to pay things on time, not get judged for doing this and he wants to make a good point. Yeah, you know who is also, you brought up to Santhus, but you got to give a shout out to CFO, Florida, Jimmy Patronis for highlighting this kind of stuff. He does emails all the time saying we're what, defunding black, is that essentially what they did in Florida?

Starting point is 01:14:12 They also did it in North Carolina. But this is the importance of talking about these kind of things. I wasn't too, too, too familiar with ESG up until about, I don't know, six months or a year ago. But it's starting to be something that, why is it taking in these fund managers so long to pull out? I give you an idea. Like, I went to look at different schools for the kids.

Starting point is 01:14:33 Okay, one of the schools, first, 30 seconds. I said, so let me ask you, what is the top priority of the school? What do you think are the top challenges? What is the school thing are the top challenges America's facing today? School says, oh, number one on the list is climate change. Oh, jeez.

Starting point is 01:14:50 I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right. That's number one on your list. Yeah, okay, not raising great kids. Not raising future leaders. As your school. It's climate change is your number one. Yeah, I mean, I can't wait to send all my kids to your school.

Starting point is 01:15:01 Absolutely, number one. They're only waiting in the dark. Yeah, you go to another place. And I say, so what do you think about capitalism? Hey, what do you think about this? So what do you think? Yeah, the number one issue is, you know, gender equality, number one inclusive, number one is this, number one is DEI, number one, like yeah.

Starting point is 01:15:18 Listen, you're doing and saying things to please somebody rather than the priority is what kind of kids are you developing? Values, principles, leadership, all this stuff. That's what we value, right? So anyways, this is throwing a lot of people off and I'm glad they're getting held accountable right now. Even though Bloomberg is coming out saying, yes, she community should push back and you

Starting point is 01:15:39 should get after him. You saw that article? Yeah, you know, a man who pushed back hard. You got to fight back hard to PR press, reacts to the attacks. All the ESG people are getting. Okay, tough guy. All right. Got it.

Starting point is 01:15:52 Relax. While you're giving your level of hypocrisy and contradiction, good for the Santas. This is another reason why people feel very comfortable that a dissent is, is not afraid to go after guys like Larry Fink. Love it. Love the fact that he's not afraid to go after guys like Larry Fink. Love it. Love the fact that he's not afraid to go after guys like Larry Fink. Hold them accountable.

Starting point is 01:16:09 Hold them accountable. Okay, so let's go to the next one here. Next story. Do we want to hit it Twitter? Let's just do Bill Mar story real quick. Let's do a quick Bill Mar story. A little bit lighten. Lighten up, dude. Isn't that a line from your comedy video that you do with Fadjud? Yeah. Yeah. So let's see which one we're going to know. What page are we on? Okay, there we go. That's why they turn,

Starting point is 01:16:31 that's why they turn into a bunch of holes. I love that coming out of your mouth. I mean, you bill Mar. Mox people who are offended by everything. Committee Bill Mar and Miss Pat, whose real name is Patricia Williams, mocked people who are offended by everything. People go crying and they're ready to jump off a ledge

Starting point is 01:16:48 at any little thing you say is the kids that were raising today. They don't work for shit, we give them everything. That's why they turn into a bunch of holes and be crying all the time. It's P.A. instead of being honest to kids, they want to pamper them and make the word easy for everybody, the world isn't, I cuss at my kids and people say, how can you cuss at your kids?

Starting point is 01:17:07 I said, because when they get into a real world and somebody says, F off, they won't fall off the ground. You know, Mars and mom, Mars and outspoken appointing a cancel culture and political correctness in 2021, he said liberals should stop catering to the people who just want to bitch. Tom, thoughts? I think he's, this is refreshing.

Starting point is 01:17:31 This is absolutely refreshing. Catering to people that just want to bitch. It's one thing to have a point. It's one thing to move the ball forward on something important for society. It's quite another thing where you protest for the sake of protest because what you're really trying to do is move things into power. And by the way, there's a direct line with this goes right back to ESG,

Starting point is 01:17:49 of all these people, bitching about stuff. And then it goes back and then their executional lever of bitching is in ESG policy. I love this and I think he's calling it, and Ms. Pack is calling it. And I think there's a big thing in here about kids. The BizDoc Babe is a teacher and we have kids today that are treated differently

Starting point is 01:18:12 and are too sensitive and are incapable of debate and she is dead on. I don't necessarily cuss at my kids, but I don't cut them any slack. They hear it from me when things not right because no, I don't cut them any slack. They hear it from me when things not right, because no, I don't want someone to challenge them or want to debate with them or anything like that in the real world and have them shrink back

Starting point is 01:18:32 and be unequipped and unprepared. Yeah, Bill Marr, I've said this before, I mean, that's my guy. If there's anybody that I think is just kind of nailing at these days, it's Bill Marr. I know that obviously you're tight with Rogan and that's sort of like who you think is on Goat Mountain. Bill Maher is on my Goat Mountain.

Starting point is 01:18:49 And it's not because he calls out the right. It's also because he calls out the left. I mean, who are we talking about right now? It's specifically, if we want to name names, the people that are doing the complaining are young people, Gen Z, who are just kind of entering the real world for the first time and they're bitching and complaining and they haven't done anything yet. A lot of what you talk about are the doers don't have a voice and the complainers have

Starting point is 01:19:13 a loud voice. These days, if you're 22 years old, you haven't done anything yet, you haven't built anything yet, you haven't made any money, you haven't built a family, you haven't accomplished anything. It's so easy to bitch these days about everything that you're seeing in the world and all the plights that you're dealing with. The reality is in America today, in America, this is the best, most amazing time we've ever had in our country as far as living longer, healthier, wealthier, things are so good in America. And you know, just take a trip to other places in the world and then

Starting point is 01:19:45 come back to America and see if you still have that same attitude. But overall, I think Mar is just nailing everything these days and shout out to him and his writers because they're crushing. No, I mean, because I actually know one of his writers that's on the real time of Bill Mar. Not alone, like, well, but I've done stand up with him. I mean, I respect him. But it's just that you think the shift is happening because he was so, he was just the Trump, you know, that's all to me, because I'm, that's from what I saw in LA.

Starting point is 01:20:14 It was just every day was Trump. And they're like trying to be clever with the Trump jokes. Do you think that this is a shift because he's trying to still keep, because nobody's relevant when the whole those Trump hating CNN, we saw what's happening with CNN. Do you think he's making that shift and he's being so anti, you know, walk and all that just because it's so he doesn't lose followers or he's always been the. He said that, you know, I haven't changed my positions have always been this. It's been the left, the progressive left that has sprinted far left.

Starting point is 01:20:45 Like he, a lot of time, he'll say this on the shot, I don't know how often you watch his show, he says a lot of times Fox News will praise me, right? Or Hannity will praise me or Tucker will praise me in the hopes that I'll come on their team. He's like, I am not on your team. Yeah. Okay. But I'm also not on whatever this woke, ideologue situation is going on on on that side. I mean you saw the stats that he talked about with like that

Starting point is 01:21:08 LGBT stat and how America's coming gay or in gayer and woker and woker I think that at the end of the day, what we're talking about is just common sense He's calling out the left. He's calling out the right and we need more of that in this country Whether it's a Rogan whether it's a mar or it's mother. It's what pbd what we do here Common sense will prevail. I think that's the issue. And I think my only thing is too not to bring up not to cut you off time.

Starting point is 01:21:30 And I do not want to talk about Trump, but the fact that when Dave Rubin was on his podcast, and he spoke, he still can't admit people like him that really pissed me off. You still can't admit that what happened with the elections and all that shit was fabricated and it was all made up. none of them could just be like okay I was wrong because even Dave Rubin was like come on bro like it's all Hillary and she paid and he there's still like now

Starting point is 01:21:53 You don't know what you're talking about that's only that's one thing. I don't respect is admit when you fuck up admit admit that you were duped you didn't you didn't start it you didn't do it and admit that everything that you said that you were peddling on your show and all these people, you lied. That's what we're talking about with CNN. I would respect CNN 1000% more. If just one day that you want you guys, you know what? We, we messed up Hillary did all this. She paid all this money and we believe there. And we pushed it all on you guys. We'll move on. That's the only, that's the only reason I don't respect.

Starting point is 01:22:22 Do you watch Bill Marital? Are you talking to you? I just watch his don't remember. Do you watch Bill Marital? He talking to you. I just watch his clips on Twitter. I never watch this show. Like watch. I don't know what's it on H. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:22:31 I don't have to. I don't know. I don't know. Like a Bill Mar guy. I whatever he posed on Twitter, specifically Twitter. I anything that all of a sudden pops up. First of all, I think he's a he's my style of a guy. Like if we were to go out and talk and just shoot the shit,

Starting point is 01:22:46 he seems like somebody you can shoot the shit with and entertain, have banter, conversations, he's that kind of a guy. I like how he is, but I kind of agree with what he's talking about as well. All I know is this year, 2024, 2023, is gonna be a rough year for a lot of people. I'm just saying, it's not gonna be a good year for Fauci.

Starting point is 01:23:06 Fauci is gonna go from being the sexiest man on earth to a bachelor or somebody that, I mean, he's gonna be scrooge at the highest level, like a scrooge type of a guy that's gonna be, I mean, you should see in his reaction when I said what I said about Fauci. It's as if I cursed out, you know, God. Oh, so the biggest thought.

Starting point is 01:23:27 Yeah, I mean, as if, you know, oh yeah, yeah. There's a scene you have to watch from yesterday's clip. But Fauci's got to a lot of people. He's not going to be God next year. He's going to be more closer to a fallen angel than he's going to be a God in 2023. Him, Hunter Biden, SPF. It's not going to be pretty this year. Can I say something about Hunter Biden?

Starting point is 01:23:45 Yeah. This is crazy. So I watch SNL a lot. Shout out to our buddy Marcelo Hernandez. You know, they did a bit, a cold open this weekend. The guy that does Trump, I don't know who he is. He's actually really good, it's funny. And then they had Donald Trump Jr. come on.

Starting point is 01:24:01 Really? No, no, no, not real like Jesus Christ. And he talked about, hey, partying and I said, you know what, just for shits and giggles, let me put into YouTube SNL Hunter Biden. Because clearly, there's gonna have to be something that they've made fun of Hunter Biden. Yeah, one joke.

Starting point is 01:24:18 Crack prostitutes this, that to me was shocking. There was nothing about Hunter Biden on SNL. That is a layup for comedy. 100%. Like you talk about comedians, like layup jokes. You tell me you can't do a bit about Hunter Biden, smoking crack, and his den, and the payment. Yes, getting money.

Starting point is 01:24:38 Yeah, like you can't do one bit on SNL. That's what we're doing. That to me is a red flag. That to me is an opportunity for another company to launch the comedy channel and recruit other comedians. Which we're doing. If you're a comedian, you're a writer, you're in Prov, reach out to us.

Starting point is 01:24:53 Valutamic, go to Valet, guys, if you are funny, genuinely funny and you know people that are funny that can write, act, do stand up. Just overall, genuinely funny people on value-taming comedy, we posted a video and in the description, there's a submission that people on value-taming comedy. Well, we posted a video and in the description, there's a submission that goes to value-taming. We're looking for people. We have over.

Starting point is 01:25:11 Just put the link of the submission below. That's the submission right there. Put it in the chat, Rob. Not in common, but put it in the chat. Yeah, and we already have at least 50 people that we're gonna start picking people. So it's a real... We're gonna meet those people.

Starting point is 01:25:23 Unique names, what a lot of followers have reached out, which is exciting. Okay. Let's go into Twitter files. Okay. Let's go into Twitter, not Twitter files. Let's talk about Elon Musk's poll that he did a couple days ago, talking about whether he should be replaced or not,

Starting point is 01:25:41 and the votes came out, 17.5 million people voted. He said, you know, at a 17.5 million, 57% showed that Elon should step down as the CEO of Twitter, which this doesn't mean he is no longer owning Twitter. It just means he's stepping on, he'll still be the chairman of the board, he'll still be the owner of Twitter. He'll just have somebody else operate Twitter.

Starting point is 01:26:03 And then a bunch of talks came out. So Twitter, Musk, who could be the next CEO of Twitter? Elon Musk's poll this weekend asking followers if he could step down as Twitter CEO, though he has ignored the results of the vote, in which 57% of he has not ignored. He came out and he said, I will be stepping on him, looking for somebody. There's a bunch of different names that are popping out right now. Serium, Christianin, senior director of product at Twitter a decade ago in 2020 when he was appointed as general partner of the influential tech and crypto investment firm and recent Horowitz. And this year he was taped by Musk to be part of his war room shaping Twitter into whatever

Starting point is 01:26:42 it is now. Number two, Blake Masters is another name that's come up after losing the Arizona Senate election in November, Blake Masters apparently wants to pivot back into original career path. One of the other guys who help run Twitter, some of the existing names, there's even snoops out there, Jared Kushner's out there.

Starting point is 01:27:01 A bunch of different guys, Musk's Fixer or is a new favorite lawyer, a Mormon and a former Morgan Stanley wealth manager, Musk's Fixer, Jared, Berkel helped lock in the deal that allowed his boss to buy Twitter with billions and loans with Morgan Stanley. The head of his family office, Bertel is also the CEO of Nouralink.

Starting point is 01:27:20 Anyways, there's a lot of different names that's coming up. Thoughts. I want to address the tweet that you put out there. You have neural link. Anyways, there's a lot of different names that's coming up. Thoughts. I want to address the tweet that you put out there. Because I thought that was very interesting. You kind of threw your hat in the ring and you kind of made a proposal right there. What do you think the most important qualities of the new Twitter CEO should be?

Starting point is 01:27:40 So first of all, here's what I did say. If you're talking about the tweet that I sent out, let me just read it so I can say exactly what I said. I said, because he asked, he said, it likes Friedman, ask, I'd love to come and work and do what I can. And then he responds and says, in order for you to do that, you would have to put your entire life savings in it.

Starting point is 01:27:59 You have to be all in if you're doing this. This is I'm all in, right? Anyways, we're on a flight to Dallas yesterday or two days ago, Addison. We had a special meeting with some of our guys at home office, a very, very big meeting. Maybe the biggest meeting of the year for a couple of people. And we flew in, you know, on the way there,

Starting point is 01:28:18 we're talking about this as a town. I think we can take this company to a trillion out of valuation. What do you think? We're still going back in for we're having a conversation. About Twitter, you're talking about Twitter? Yeah, it's me, Mario and Tom, and we Mario and Tom and Samvel on the flight. And we're going back and forth on what we would do. You know, here's what we could do this.

Starting point is 01:28:36 We could do that. We could do this. We could do that. And I said, you know what? The only person that I'm concerned about this thing would be Jen. And Mario's like, Pat, you got to talk to Jen about this before you make the desire. Your wife. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:28:47 I said, well, even if we took the shop, you know, it would be a job because it's a fight. Like, you know, hey, would you ever run for office? I would only do this because I see this as service. I don't see this as money. I'm okay financially. I see this as public service because the world needs Twitter to stay open the way it is right now that's annoying a lot of the people from the swamp

Starting point is 01:29:07 who have been manipulating these guys the government was paying Twitter nearly 3.4 million dollars the government was paying Twitter 3.4 I don't know if you read the Twitter files how much? 3.4 million dollars they collected from the government to say hey move this hey do this hey do that they brag about it and an email to each other, okay? So I said to Elon, a guy asked me questions saying, hey Patrick, would you ever take the job of being a Twitter CEO of Offert?

Starting point is 01:29:34 I said yes, I would accept the terms Elon Musk has mentioned publicly with two other requests, salary of a dollar per year, a reasonable equity incentive beyond my life savings investment. And we would drive Twitter to a trillion dollar valuation within five years, 100% serious. And I got a bunch of different commentary, some DMs, some interesting messages that came out, but no, we haven't heard from Elon Musk. No, I don't have an interview in place. Some people like Pat has an interview. I haven't spoken to Elon.

Starting point is 01:29:59 I don't have an interview. I have not spoken to anybody in this team. No conversation like that's taking place. But I do believe that this is a job that needs to be ran by somebody who is reasonable, somebody that can see both sides, we were talking yesterday, what skill set is very important to be a C suite executive, is it more hard skills or is it more soft skills? In a situation like this, I think this is a soft skill job.

Starting point is 01:30:25 This is somebody that's got great soft skills to be able to work with both sides. Yet, Scott is a true believer that is not going to compromise values and principles. So, for this position, he has to weigh out what he values more. Is it somebody that understands engineering more? Is that who needs to be? Or is that the CTO job, not the CEO job? Is it somebody that's a true believer of freedom of speech where they're not gonna break, you know, compromise values in front, is that the number one value?

Starting point is 01:30:52 Is it somebody that's good at communicating messages with both sides that can play a synergist? Is it somebody that's not afraid of being pushed and being criticized nonstop in public humiliation? What value does this CEO need to have to do that? Whatever value is at the top for him, that's who he's going to hire. And I'm willing to bet Elon knows what five qualities he's looking for before he decides to give somebody this job.

Starting point is 01:31:19 It has to be somebody that's ran a business before. It has to be somebody that understands how YouTube elements are working our YouTube is giving 55% of advertisement to producers. It would have to be someone that can bring some big podcast names to be able to put on Twitter spaces, which is really doing well. That's a product that they can do a lot of things for. It has to be somebody that can bring a consulting space to experts to get paid. It has to be somebody that understands a bit of politics and gamesmanship. I think those are some of the qualities I would,

Starting point is 01:31:49 if I'm him, but I'm not him. It's not my company. I would look at some of those qualities before I bring somebody in. With the current climate right now, with everything that's going on in Congress about TikTok, right? And I'm an advocate of getting TikTok

Starting point is 01:32:03 the hell out of America. I agree. What do you think is the upside for Twitter? Because I think an advocate of getting TikTok the hell out of America. I agree. What do you think is the upside for Twitter? Because I think if you go through the top 10 social media companies, number one, meta, number two, YouTube, Google, you go down the list, WhatsApp, Instagram's up there, Facebook Messenger, then you've got a couple Chinese companies we chat TikTok.

Starting point is 01:32:26 At least according to these numbers, as far as what is it, monthly active users, Twitter is in top 15, meaning they're not even in the top 10 right now. Where do you think Twitter could be in the next five years? Exactly what I think, a trillion dollar company. I think Twitter can really compete with everybody, and this can be the we chat and many other things, but there's a way he has to go about it. You know look There's certain jobs that are big jobs, but you don't get them because of Just money you have to have the itch forward certain jobs

Starting point is 01:33:01 You will be the most hated man in America is a job like Trump was the most hated man in America is a job. Like Trump was the most hated man in America for a few years. He's no longer by the way. I don't even think Trump's in the top three most hated man in America today. I think he's number one right now. Most hated man. He's a gay long. I think he's number one above everybody right now.

Starting point is 01:33:17 I think he's the most hated man in America. He's being targeted by the swamp. He's being targeted by mainstream media. He's being targeted by the left. He's being targeted by universities. He's being targeted by a lot of he's being targeted by the left, he's being targeted by universities, he's being targeted by a lot of different people. They can't stand this guy. So now watch this.

Starting point is 01:33:30 Anyone that takes his job, anyone that takes his job, if you can zoom in is what he's saying to you. Anyone who takes his job, Elon's job will be a modern day. I know this is gonna sound weird. You're gonna be a Rupert Murdoch type of a guy. Wow.

Starting point is 01:33:46 And if you know who Rupert Murdoch was, this guy was never loved, except for people that worked with him, and were part of Fox. The guy was hated forever. Okay, but he built a hundred, 200 billion dollar company. I don't know the exact valuation of Fox. It's not a job for everyone, especially somebody that,

Starting point is 01:34:10 if you wanna be liked, this is the last job you wanna take. Well, you hit the nail on the head with Rupert Birdock because who did he appoint to be to run Fox News for? Suzan. No, he had Roger Hill. Roger Hill, I'm thinking you'd come up the currency. No, no, so my point is this, with you bring up a good point with the Murdoch's,

Starting point is 01:34:27 because I went and I kind of went and saw who's running all these companies, with the exception of Zook, right? We all know Mark Zuckerberg, he's running Facebook meta. The last thing you want with these major social media companies are household names. Right now everything the spotlight is on Elon, but if you go down the list here, okay,

Starting point is 01:34:47 so who runs YouTube now? Susan Wojzicki, like, no average person does not know her name. I can't even pronounce her last name. Who's the CEO of Instagram these days? Obviously, Instagram is owned by Facebook and Meta. We know Zuck, but who's the CEO of Instagram? We don't have his name, his name is Adam Morrissey. Okay, Mosari, all right.

Starting point is 01:35:06 Mark Benioff owns time, Jeff Bezos owns WAPO. You have all these, whether it's social media, or whether it's major news outlets, it's very low key. I actually completely understand why Elon would, throw his hat in the ring, bringing literally the kitchen sink, but then step away and then assign somebody to this CEO that isn't gonna make the waves and the headlines here, because ultimately, it's about freedom of speech,

Starting point is 01:35:34 it's about free speech, it's about the First Amendment, it isn't about Elon. I think, I mean, by the way, do you think he abides by these polls? Hell no. I think he does. I think he's viable. I mean? How? I think he does. Abides by him. I mean, meaning like, if he does, he,

Starting point is 01:35:47 he reinstated Trump. He said, should I reinstate Trump? They did it. Boom. So how much credibility would he lose if he doesn't abide by the polls? You see in the last two weeks, right there, yesterday. I will resign as soon as I find someone foolish enough

Starting point is 01:36:02 to take the job. After that, I will just run the software and set the teams. Meaning I think he's abide by the fact that, oh yeah, and that sends, yeah. I actually think, I actually think he will. Tom, what are your thoughts on this? Oh, first of all, I think the world, the world is completely confused by this.

Starting point is 01:36:18 And to the ignorant lemmings that are out there screaming, oh, you know, he's gonna leave, he's gonna leave. He owns the company people. That's like my dad saying, okay, you know, he's gonna leave, he's gonna leave, he owns the company people. That's like my dad saying, okay, I'm not gonna be the dad of the family anymore, but I am gonna be the chairman and I still make the most money and I control where we go in vacations.

Starting point is 01:36:35 Great, but he's not dad anymore, he's stepping down, fantastic. People don't get it, he's about to become chairman and he's gonna run the software teams and all the things that he's really good at And he's going to put a CEO in place that has those qualities that Pat talks about There's new features have to come out. We need to attract talent to this We need to attract user based to this you need to be balanced on the political side of this That's the job of that new CEO and it's going to be a thankless job a tough job for someone who's got the ability

Starting point is 01:37:03 To come in there and do that and And then, as you get the users back, look, it's 400, oh, it's only 14th in the world, but it's 400 million users. If that doubles to 800 million users, I think it's number four, five in the world. So suddenly, this thing is going to be right where we think it's going to be, I believe it's going to be a trillion dollar company,

Starting point is 01:37:21 and what Elon Musk is crazy like a fox, and a lot of these critics are out there just finding something to do and they're being played, baby. They're being played. He knows exactly what he's doing. He suggested it. It's crazy yesterday we're having a meeting and we're thinking about doing something with LinkedIn.

Starting point is 01:37:37 How much was the thing that we want to do with LinkedIn? Yeah, it's a $30,000 for like unlimited recruiter access. I'm not asking what it is I'm just saying how much was it 30,000? Oh, it's 30,000 dollars. Yeah, so think about it. So it linked in has a feature where you pay 30,000 dollars, right? Okay, so I Think Twitter can allow people that are willing to spend that kind of money to get access to information that others are not going to have There's so many ways to create revenues with this company. You know, the saying goes, you know, we're in a church, you know, first you bring them into the church, you baptize them later. Sometimes some churches that are small, they try to

Starting point is 01:38:17 baptize people first and bring them to church. Now, hey man, just come to the church. You know what, this place is kind of fun. I like this place. We'll baptize you later, okay? So Twitter is now bringing people to the church, which is Twitter. You're gonna be able to baptize them later, with a product. You're gonna be able to baptize people to say,

Starting point is 01:38:35 I'm gonna spend money on this, I'm gonna buy this service, I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna do this. And by the way, you realize there's an element of like these video games, candy crush crush and all these other guys one time I'm in Colombia with a couple of my friends and one of my friends is like six hours. He's on the phone What are you doing? So we're at dinner. He's like this. I'm like, hey, what is he doing? Is this how dude? He's so addicted to this game. He spent $5,000 yesterday on the game

Starting point is 01:39:00 What? He says yeah, he bought this he bought that he bought this. How do you think these games are becoming what? Multi-multibillion dollar franchises. And because it allows people to gamify, you know how many opportunities there is to gamify Twitter? Like, you know how many, I've like imagined if it says, you can buy such and such for $100. You can buy this for $200. You can buy this for $60. You can buy this for $60.

Starting point is 01:39:25 You can buy that for $700. There's an element of allowing gamification for people to choose what kind of money they want to spend. And you would be amazed. If people are spending $4 million on a land in cyberspace or metal world, just because this land is on a beach,

Starting point is 01:39:41 you don't think there's some people that would be spending money on Twitter if you allow them those types of opportunities where it gives them a unique, you know position or unique place like How much would it be? I'll give you a perfect idea at our school think about this when I say this idea. I want you to think about this So my school, okay, that kids go to there's a what do you call it auction? Okay, I'm not gonna give all my ideas I'm just gonna give some of them for people to be thinking about we're at this auction and The number one parking space for your kid to park and I'm sitting on like parking space my kids are ten years old nobody drives

Starting point is 01:40:15 Yeah, well, okay, let me see where this thing goes to number one parking space where the kid can park here and walk right into Their classroom. They don't have to walk ten minutes. They will never be late, da-da-da-da. Okay, obviously I could care less about the spot because I don't know my kids that are 16. And it's like, all right, $5,000. So $5,000 is the start. This is not gonna go past $6,000. 10, oh my God.

Starting point is 01:40:40 15. Holy shit. 20, 25, 30 30 I'm like be quiet $35,000 for the one parking spot Okay, let me ask you guys this crazy question How much is the real estate worth on Twitter when you log on to have the 10 people to your left to follow Follow the follow on people how much is a realistic worth? Millions million are you freaking kidding me?

Starting point is 01:41:05 It's that 10 million bucks. Like, are you, are you, like, imagine, go to, go to your profile, right? Who do follow? You have all that freaking on the right side. What the hell you doing? Wasting that space? Let me pay for it. Well, what is all this bullshit suggest is stuff for? Let me pay for the top 10 spot. The number one spot. You know what I would sell the number one spot for 30 days? How much are people paying for FTX arena to have their logo, their 200 million dollars for 10 years? Do that say, that's a $10 million

Starting point is 01:41:36 a year position to have. And some people would pay for it. They would pay for it. There are so many ways for Twitter to make money. There has to be a capitalist that understands marketing and positioning to say, here's how we can bring revenues to Twitter. So you're going to need content creators like a Mr. Beats. You need Rogan. You need people like that that are coming on there. There has to be something with those guys. You have to bring humor. You have to bring fun. You have to bring the news guys.

Starting point is 01:42:04 You have to give the news guys some kind of ranking credit score. There's so many things you can do to make this the most popular website in the flippin world but you need the right person to do. That's a great idea. This could be a trillion out of company. But anyways. I just got a message. I just got a message. I just got a message. There's a space sex spaceship that just landed in the back. Elon, I gave my ideas in a fight. I've got a message, there's a space ship that just landed in the back.

Starting point is 01:42:25 Elon's here, he's gonna hire Pat. I mean, we'll say this, the one person, we're all talking about Elon, the one person that he's not in the news, he's not in the headlines, but he's got as just as much money as anybody and he's just as competitive as anyone is Jeff Bezos. Now you're starting to see rumors that like Amazon

Starting point is 01:42:44 is developing their own TikTok-like strategy, stuff like that. Elon's got so many eyeballs on him. He can't operate, you know, he can't do anything clandestine at this point. No, hell no. Bezos, he's not looking to be in the front page of the news. He's not looking to be, you know,

Starting point is 01:43:00 all up in the mix, trolling like Elon. I wouldn't count out Bezos for anything at this point. No way. He's got his own space company, he's got his own newspaper, he's obviously Amazon, and now he's looking to compete with TikTok. I don't know, just Bezos is not in the news these days, but he might be.

Starting point is 01:43:21 He might be. When you don't hear his name, just don't think he's not in anything. Bezos is doing other things. Bezos is doing other things. his name, just don't think he's not afraid of anything. Bezos is doing other things. Bezos doing other things. He's having fun right now. He's at a different phase.

Starting point is 01:43:29 Let's do one last story before we kick it off. Do we want to do Kelly and Conway? Do we want to talk about Zelensky and his trip here? Yeah. Yeah. Not really. Do you want to talk about China's economy won't be number one?

Starting point is 01:43:40 WSJ story. Do you want to talk about World's Fargo time? What do you want to talk about? Tell me what story you guys want to talk about. We'll go to the wrap up. I was gonna say the killing and counting. What is she doing going to dinner with, with, uh, Cuomo? I had, I saw that and I'm like, is it just a photo op or like what?

Starting point is 01:43:56 What, what, I don't understand what the hell are they doing? Ellie, I found way dishes on her eyebrow raising New York City dinner with this grace. US ex a governor Cuomo, Donald Trump's former political advisor and Zestatuse, it was no, a more in the air as she had a private late-night meal with the Scrazed former New York governor, Andrew Cuomo, at a famous Upper East Side Italian restaurant, Italians prefer eating to Zoom. We would have invited his brother, Christopher, but it's unclear that he, it's unclear that he, it's unclear that he, it's carbs. Clomos reporting currently single, while the 55-year-old Conway is married to attorney

Starting point is 01:44:30 and vocal trump critic George Conway, nothing romantic. I've known Clomos family for decades. Conway said the dinner, dinner's menu for discussion included how they both had podcasts with same company Quake Media and talk of various political issues on which they could find common ground. Huh. That just, like, just what a random craze, like besides them, they're on the same podcast company. No, I have an opinion.

Starting point is 01:44:57 What? Go with me here. Okay. I think Trump is interviewing candidates for VP. He started looking at Kanye. All right. That's as crazy as it gets these days. Okay. He brought his boy Nick Fuentes. Now he's like, all right, who shocks the system as much as anybody these days? Andrew Cuomo. I don't know. There's a Trump play here. Something's telling me Kellyanne Conway is still in touch with Trump for sure. It was his best flag carrier, no doubt for sure. And believe me, the topic of Trump did come up

Starting point is 01:45:30 in this conversation at dinner. And I don't know, I think Trump is still looking for a VP. And if there's anything that Trump likes, it's been in the headlines. And you know, if Kellyanne Conway and Cuomo, the disgraced, handsy touchy governor Cuomo, or having a meal together, you know Trump's name was brought up. Crazy opinion, call it what it is, but I don't know. Wow, Trump's done crazy your things.

Starting point is 01:45:56 I don't know how to read it, or it's just a couple folks that run in political circles that have a respect for each other perhaps, that just grabbed dinner over the holidays They're not dumb if there was really something romantic going on They're not going to get seen at a restaurant like this neither one of them is dumb Especially what he's been through and what she's been through at George. I think there's a nothing burger I think it was a couple of operatives having a discussion. I think Cuomo's far far far from the orbit of who could be

Starting point is 01:46:24 You know VP I think Cuomo's far, far, far from the orbit of who could be, you know, VP. That's what I think. I think it's a nothing burger. I think it's Adam Spanis, I think Adam. Adam wants to vote for Trump, but only if Cuomo's the VP. Only if Cuomo's the VP. Adam wants to be the VP. Adam wants to be the VP. He's a very weird people in videos.

Starting point is 01:46:39 That's the way he would be open to the idea. Yeah, I don't know if I think much of it, by the way, but at the same time, is she wearing a skirt? Oh, you know what I'm doing. Or she's got a bit smaller to the idea. Yeah, I don't know if I think much of it by the way, but at the same time Is she wearing a skirt? Or she's got a rag Who knows what she's wearing and you know, I don't know I got a photo for I'm a big fan of this of her She's a talent man. Yeah, there's there's certain people one of how near your side. She's one of them So who needs this picture more sheer him he does a new question about it. So 1910. So let me tell you Did he ask her hey, can we go out to dinner? I just want to go out to dinner

Starting point is 01:47:11 I want to get a little little buzz in the press. I need to do some things. I'm trying to know she know I don't think so Cuomo is not gonna go quietly into that good night. There's he's gonna be a revival at some point I mean, okay, he's not just gonna be like yeah, I'm just crazy. I'm out retired. He's He's not seen the lot the the last of the Cuomo's Well, I'll guarantee that his brother is back doing some podcasts that I don't know who's watching it But I mean dude is he is he I know how many women came forward? Is he in again troubled? I mean, there's no Jill He's a he's a politician. So he's not gonna go to jail But how many how many staffers came out and said that he was sexually harassing and groping them?

Starting point is 01:47:46 Was there a number? Enough to win a big election baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, all right, well listen, it's come down to the end. We today wasn't planned. We decided last minute to do this podcast because we're not gonna be together with you for a week. But it's been a great run this year.

Starting point is 01:48:06 I think we got a couple podcasts we'll be doing next week after Christmas. And then we have some big names that are coming up 2023. And some that may shock some of you that we're working on right now, but a lot of interesting conversations are being had. I wanna wish everybody that's watching this, a Merry Christmas.

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