PBD Podcast - Home Team | PBD Podcast | Ep. 302

Episode Date: September 7, 2023

Today on the PBD Podcast, Patrick Bet-David, Adam Sosnick, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and K'von will discuss a wide variety of political and economic current events. Vault to the top. Be your best. Feel your best. Achieve your best. Vault Brain drinks will unlock your brain to help you be your best you. Try the new Vault Drink today! www.vaultdrinks.com Connect With Experts On Minnect: https://app.minnect.com/ Visit our website: https://valuetainment.com/ Subscribe to our channel: http://bit.ly/2aPEwD4 Subscribe to: Adam Sosnick - @ValuetainmentMoney Vincent Oshana - @ValuetainmentComedy Tom Ellsworth - @bizdocpodcast Want to get clear on your next 5 business moves? https://valuetainment.com/academy/ Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQL Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

I Did you ever think you would make it I feel I'm so Know this life man for me Yeah, why would you plan on the life when we got bad David? Value came in. Giving values. Contagious.

This world on entrepreneurs. We can't no value that hate it. I'd be running on me. Look what I've become. I'm the under one. Yeah. Yo, so today my day started off with doing this blue cube cold plunge in a morning a morning, let me tell you, I'm white awake. I first went in, I got a video,

but I'll post a lead on it's embarrass. Some of it's embarrassing. I'm probably having to post embarrassing part as well. You have to. You have to. First I went in with my feet. I said, there's no way. Then I went in for like a few seconds, jumped out.

Then I went in for 45 seconds, and the last one was a minute oh two, and then when I get home today, I'm gonna try to do it for two minutes, but it felt unfrikin' believable. Shout out to the blue guys at Blue Cube I'll post that you'll see what it is. I'm a fire, I'm a fire. I have a question for you.

So you're usually awake in the morning, so I'm gonna go and sleep. I'm going to sleep if I'm saying. So what's the difference between this IC and EBT? Just think about like putting an ice pack on your back after a workout. But like putting an ice pack on your back after a workout. But imagine putting an ice pack on your entire body.

You're in the ice for a minute. It felt amazing. Now what happened, L'Bab? Because now, and you're drinking ice water, which is like, now you're just going to be changing the ice. He's becoming one with the ice. Yeah, we have great topics to discuss.

I know you were hardcore into Tucker's recent show he did with the gentleman. Yeah, Larry Sinclair, who claims he smoked crack and they had gay sex whatever years ago. That's what his claim is. Obviously, you may do the investigation. I did some. People have lost their minds one on that side, on the left, on the right, and the met on. There's a group of people that could care less about it. But we'll kind of touch it a little bit. We'll touch it a little bit. No point in that. Yeah, no point in that at all. We got some economy stuff to talk about.

Spotify, something crazy happened with Spotify time. Something funny happened with Spotify. Spotify spent a billion dollars into podcasts of famous people, Obamas, Kardashians, and what do you call it? Bruce Prince Harry and Mary. Prince Harry and Mary, whatever they killed that I want to say, they did awesome. And they canceled all of it. They canceled all of it and you'll find out how much money they lost and what their thoughts

are on this. How many billions did you spend on this podcast? We didn't spend billions, but this is a billion-dollar podcast. Point. Saudi Arabia, man sentenced to death for tweets. We'll talk about that. The US government, folks, be careful what you're wearing right now. The US government is investing $22 million into developing surveillance clothing that

includes shirts, pants, and underwear. They want to see everything, right? It almost that city's worried that Tesla, CEO maybe assassinated, following a report about his influence on government decisions. We'll see about that. And then we got half of the CDC workers, ready for this? More than half of CDC staff leave to work for big farmers, study funds.

Anyone surprised? I'm shocked. In China, in China, there's a county that offers couples to get married before the age of 25. They want you making babies. That's what they want you to do in China. Small towns in America are disbanding police forces. The immortals meet the billionaires,

forking out for eternal life. Wait till you hear this story. And then a New York time story. This is not a New York post story. This is a New York time story, which we're probably gonna get to first. Americans are losing faith in the value of college. Whose fault is that?

Then we got a bunch of other stories. What happened with Proud Boys going 22 years. But Liberty Safe, if you own a safe in your house, this is definitely not a sponsorship. Liberty Safe could possibly be the next buttlight. When you find out what these guys did, what FBI, maybe one of the biggest, maybe bigger than Bud Light.

It has to be bigger than Bud Light's screw up on what you're doing. Your whole idea is about making sure we feel safe, and you're giving that to the FBI. What? And then last night some story came out with Reuters. We'll cover Apple Stock is down 4%. If you haven't already looked, our guys in the back

were not too happy about the fact when I announced this. China is making an announcement to no longer wanting to use the iPhone. They have just imposed an immediate ban on all Apple devices by government officials. I don't know if this is because Tim Cook is taking the business out to India or in the Ornabu. We'll cover that as well.

Congress returns with clock ticking to avert government shutdown, fund US disaster. Then messy drives jump in Apple TV and MLS subscription, another bad news for cable TV and we've got a few other stores and we will get into as well. Anyways, but before we do that, we have a friend here with us, the latest talent we signed, comedian, the phenomenal cave on. If you haven't seen this stuff, I've watched this stuff over the years. Funniest hell, we started talking. I want to say two years ago was the first time we've come in to K-von. 2018, I looked it up. Oh, shit. Five years ago. I've been on Pat's case for a while. Five years ago.

Five years ago. And I said, dude, what do we got to do about this? And so now he's here with us on South Florida. K-von, if you don't mind, take 30 seconds, two minutes, just kind of give everybody your background. Well, absolutely. I've been to a standup comedy for the last 12, 15 years. I know Vinnie very well, and when he moved out here, I said, man, you beat me to it. I was trying to get here first. Vinnie's always first to market with this stuff.

But I'm the most famous half-pursue and comedian in the world. Luckily, there's only one other one. So as long as I stay here, I'll be okay. And I just love making people laugh. I linked up with Turning Point USA at one point, and we believe in Freedom of Speech and do in stand-up comedy and PBD believes in these values as well. So this is just a great partnership. I think it's going to go real far.

Awesome. What's good to have you here, K-Von? Let's get into our first story. Okay. you here, K-von, let's get into our first story. Okay, Americans are losing faith and a value of college. Whose fault is that? Mr. Ellsworth, let me read this story. Okay. Tom's fault.

A decade ago, survey showed strong support for college with 86% of college graduates seeing it as a good investment. But today, only about a third of Americans have a lot of confidence in high education. And just about 41% of young adults view a college degree as very important. That's only 41%. The rising cost of college has played a significant role

in the shift with tuition fees nearly doubling for four-year private college since 1992. Total student that has surged from $500 billion in 2007 to $1.6 trillion dollars that's just in 16 years, it's tripled, leading to financial burdens and hindering wealth accumulation for many graduates. In other words, you can't even follow bankruptcy on your college that you have to pay. You don't have a choice. The decline in faith in higher education is also politically driven as Republican sentiment

has sharply dropped in 2015. 58% of Republicans believe colleges had a negative impact in the country compared to 37% in 2015. So anyways, we're going to see what's going to happen to the top. Your thoughts on the story? Well, there are three angles to the story. One is college useful. Number two is it worth the price.

And number three, are there other things happening like indoctrination that parents are upset about? The first one, usefulness. Two studies I found said that last year, it dipped under 50% of college graduates got a job related to what they just studied and paid for. So only 50%. So you have parents that are so shocked at home.

Wait a minute, you're telling me European art history, you've been able to find a job in your European art history here in the United States. That's the whole point. Liberal arts, educations in the esoteric majors are not useful, so only half people have found in jobs and what they just studied. Then they look at the return on investment.

I walk out with student loans, and I find a job in what I just studied, marketing business, but they look at the return on investment. I walk out with student loans, and I find a job in what I just studied, marketing business, but they look at the price and how long it's gonna take them to pay for it, minus whatever minor academic scholarships or need-based scholarships, or whatever they got. There's still a net there.

It's like, now I gotta pay this off. And then the last one were parents who are footing the bill for the people I just mentioned, if they don't get student loans, are saying a minute you you know remember the old thing about the weather that march comes in like a lamb goes out like a lion you know there's that little joke about the weather well parents are like my kid goes in like a moderate and comes out like a Marxist and it's like I don't I don't like this yeah and so that's the three things is it useful is it worth the money and the indoctrination? And people have had it.

Students have had it. Parents have had it. And then later on, when a student becomes an adult and they're paying for it, they've had it. So can I challenge you so for you, even though you're saying that, you're still encouraging your kids to go to college. Why is that?

Okay, let's rewind. Number one, I've saved my pennies. I don't think it's worth it, but my kids are gonna come out without significant, so they don't have to get held back as they start their career. But the second is, you and I have had a conversation about this, I will fund STEM business or pre-med pre-law. And there's a whole list of things you can do in life. I'm willing to fund that because I want to be at the top part of the 50% that have a degree that's actually

usable. And so, but I'm on the fence. If I was probably 10 years older, I might take a son or daughter and put them in an apprenticeship with me and really think twice on this because I see where this is going in 10 years down the road. I don't know if that Tom Molesworth would make this decision. I agree with Tom that it's multifaceted because it's not one-size-fits-all. So on one hand, you're also almost saying like, it's not worth it. The ROI isn't there, but at the same time,

you're encouraging your daughters to go because why? There's a plan for them. The biggest problem that I have with colleges is most people, kids, are 18 years old and they're about to make the biggest decision of their life and they are just not equipped to make that decision. They don't have the money. College jet is ridiculous. You know how long it takes to average student debt recipient to pay back their loans? Twenty years. It takes a long, freaking time. So on one hand, if you look at the stats going backwards, times have changed, internet, technology, drop shipping, social media, everything, entrepreneurship is now a buzz word.

It used to be a new word. High school students, high school graduates would make $1 million over their lifetime, if you graduate high school. College degrees would equivocate to $2 million, MBAs, $3 million, but the times of change is just not what it used to be. And then here's the last point.

I actually think that most kids, unless you're, you know, an elsewhere daughter and you have a game plan and you're not taking on debt, you're not basically driving up the price of everything in the rest of your life, I think that there should be, I don't wanna say a mandate, but encouragement for most kids to take a gap here. I think that there is a lack of national pride. I think there's a lack of national servitude.

I think there's a lack of community service. And I would encourage most kids. If you do not have a game plan for your life, go take one year, go to AmeriCorps, go do an internship, go give back to your country. I like that. I learned some. Whether it's in healthcare, whether it's in tech, whether it's in anything entrepreneurship, and there's only one thing that you have to do if you're order gonna do this. Every morning, every employee or every intern,

whatever it is, there's only one thing you have to do the Pledge of Allegiance. That's the only thing. I like that. And they will basically pay for you and do whatever you need to do. And then you can take that year to figure out the gameplay for the rest of your old cave on. Cable on his way, but you also in Israel, you're compelled to have two years of gap to go to the army.

Yeah, you have to. That's gangster. So bottom line is this, at 18, you don't need to make the biggest decision for the rest of your life and then just drown yourself in debt. It's okay to start college when you're 19. It's okay to start college when you're 20. You don't need to make the biggest decision for the rest of your life and then just drown yourself in debt. It's okay to start college when you're 19. It's okay to start college when you're 20. You don't have to make this decision when you're 18. And for the parents out there, get the message for your kids. Well, let me just add one thing. They sued Trump University because people weren't getting

what they thought they were gonna get out of it. No problem. What is the difference when colleges keep hiking up their rates and then they just go, well, Joe Biden will pay that off. We want student debt relief. Why can't we have a class action lawsuit and say, hey, you're providing these degrees, they're not going anywhere, somebody owes it back. And I think it's the institutions and not the taxpayer.

And that's actually a very good point as well. You know, for me, I will tell you, for you and I, going in a military, it was life-changing. I think if a boy that's becoming a man doesn't yet have a set of, you know, direction of what they wanna do with their lives and you're not a, what do you call it? You're not a person that's maybe got a 4.1 GPA, maybe got like a 2.2 GPA.

Military may not be a bad option for you. It made me, excuse me, my father, you know, I mean, he was there, they were, not divorced, they were, he was announced, but drank and never really, wasn't the father that I needed, right? So the military discipline, you know, being on time, cleaning, it makes you like being that experience. I'm not only a patriot, my life, my goal,

my making my bed. It regiments you to where you're on point, and especially some of the other father that didn't have, you know what I mean, didn't have somebody. Pity, I'm sorry to hear about your daddy issues. I know a lot of girls with those issues, but I know that, you know, I'm gonna cry after this. Okay, I know you're gonna be okay,

but I will say there is a difference between what men and women do for working after college. You have no idea how many girls that I have on my show. I have this conversation a million times. They go to college, they graduate, and what do they do? They become bartendersenders or they become servers or they start doing only fans. Some even start stripping and they're like,

why? Why do you do this? Because you make more money. It's like, well then why did you spend all that money on college? And then Tom hit the nail on the head unless you're less guys out there specifically are going into STEM, STEM stands for not STEM cell. STEM, science, tech, engineering, math.

That's a male dominated career path. So many to make that decision. Yeah, I'm not a salesman. I'm a salesman. I'm a salesman. I'm a salesman. I'm a salesman. I'm a salesman. I'm a salesman. I'm a salesman. I'm a salesman. I'm a salesman. I'm a salesman. I'm a salesman.

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I'm a salesman. I'm a salesman. I'm a salesman. I'm a salesman. I'm a salesman. I'm a salesman. I'm a salesman. I'm a salesman. couple different ways. Sure. One of the ways I take it, I take it as in your ideal world, there needs to be a way, a course in college to how to effectively improve your only fence account. I'm actually leading the course.

I'm not saying that's exactly. Professor Sausling. Professor Sausling. He's ripped down the conversation. Yeah. No, obviously you're not saying that with my kids. Let me tell you what Dillon told me to do. I'm like, Dillon, so we're going to go to college.

I'm not going to college. Why are you not going to college? I says that, you know what I'm gonna be doing. Oh wow. I say, let's just say it doesn't work out, Daddy. What are you gonna be doing? It says that, I'm not going to, I don't need to go to college. Look at you.

I'm like, buddy, you got a 4.0 GPA. All your grades are straight A's. You're like the best student. You know, you're doing great stuff with school, with sports, but all this stuff. I'm not gonna to go to college yet. I said, okay, so let's just play this. What if you get a scholarship from XYZ School to go play football or baseball or whatever with them, right? Or soccer with them? What are you going to do? You're not going to go, no, because I'm going straight to play for Barcelona. That's just mindset.

He's so flipping competitive. But Tiko knows from right here, hey, you know that, I'm gonna go to USC or I would like to go to school that's not to woke his words. I would like to go to school where I can learn how to become a movie guy, Steven Spielberg, all this stuff. But he talks a different language than Dylan and in our household, we can entertain both thoughts. Okay, let's go to the next topic here.

Spotify, a billion dollar podcast bet, turns into a serial dilemma. Spotify, a billion dollar podcast bet turns into a serial dilemma. This is a Wall Street Journal story. So they invested the page 20. They invested a billion dollars in podcasts and including high profile deals with figures like Kim Kardashian, Obama's Prince Harry and Megan Merkel has not resulted in profitability for most of its shows. The company lost $565 million in its in the first half of 2023, despite generating $6.2 billion in revenue. While the U.S. podcast and industry is growing with expected revenue of $2.3 billion in 2023,

Spotify substantial investment in the medium haven't translated into profitability. The company faced increased competition, and exclusive podcasts didn't significantly draw new subscribers away from rivals to meet its profitability goal by 2024. Spotify has taken measures such as Laying Off 200 employees, raising subscription prices, and sharing revenue risk with talent.

This is one thing I will tell you. Just because you're famous, just because you're famous in one area, doesn't mean your podcast is gonna be great. Just because you were the greatest in another space, you may be very boring and you don't know how to value tame people. Obama and Bruce Springston's podcasts

after you're being canceled, it was boring. People are like, what am I gonna, by the way, most people didn't even know Kardashian had a, I still don't spot a podcast on Spotify. I don't even answer, Jim, or Prince Harry and Megan Merkel think about it. Now here's a thing, Kardashian can do, Kim can do a,

keeping up with Kardashians and 20 plus years and be successful. That's a very different world. That's somebody is telling you what to do. You're coming up with drama, there's fights, there's punching, there's cat fights, there's breakups, there's divorces, there's all this stuff. Obama, you could be a president, you get up,

you got a nice teleprompter, you give a nice motivational speech. You can go out there and be a Megan Merkel and Prince Harry and be entitled and be annoying and be arrogant and be blaming your family, destroying a legacy, and just everything that no one with the right character would support one to do and get all these eyeballs, 100 million out on Netflix, you know, opportunity where now they want money back

and not even paying you the rest, but to be able to carry a podcast like Rogan has every penny they invested into him, they've made back and more. There's a few people that know how to play this game. This isn't for everybody. And Famelon is not enough. Can I tell you what, Megan Markle was doing?

Your podcasts are intriguing because you care about the person you're interviewing. She was having a sit-in interview the person and then she would then go redub the questions on her camera. So she was never there in front of the person she was talking to. Get out of here. That is exactly what she was doing. One to wife failed. Well, look, um, you think it's pretty wild for all the people out there.

I mean, we're talking about famous people. Let me talk to the people that are trying to think about starting their own podcasts or starting their own podcasts. You think this is easy? I think you just get some microphones to start talking and voila. You have a million subscribers. Breakin' news. If it was easy, everyone would do it.

Speaking of everyone would do it, I believe that podcasting is the new.com of the 2000s or cryptos of the 2010s or NFTs of two years ago. And now everyone's jumping on board. What's the story back in the day when it comes to investing? It's like, buy the rumors, sell the news, podcasts are on the news, buddy. Time to sell.

And you have no idea how many people I speak to are like, I'm thinking about starting a podcast, and I do everything I can to talk them out of it. I'm like, oh yeah, what are you gonna do when you're doing it for a year and you have 12 subscribers? Or you spend four hours doing a video and you get a hundred views.

At what point are you gonna be like, dude, this ain't worth it. It ain't worth it out there for most people. You talked about famous people who have it. But I will say something there, just to challenge you a little bit on that. So it depends on what the outcome is, meaning I think everybody should consider starting a podcast, okay? But what's the outcome? For example, watch what I'm saying here to you.

Guy calls me, he says, hey Pat, if you give us a million dollars per year, we'll do a podcast with you. I'm like, okay, you ever done that before? No, but I have a lot of juicy stories. Okay, how many? One, two, no, I got 50. Okay, but what are you doing it for?

Is it just for money? I think we can get a lot of money. We're seeing what's going on with podcasting. That's a risk. I had a call with a guy yesterday, a minute, 15 minute, a minute with a guy yesterday, asking me questions. So he goes to menec.com and on there,

you get 450 minutes. A bunch of people are asking questions about dating all this stuff. You get menex people want to ask you about comedy, all these things. They do menec with you all the time on business advice Raising money and if Rob if you can put the link below to menex to go download the app. It's available on Google and Apple and all over the place anyways So he asked me a question. He says hey, Pat

You know what I want to do is I got this Podcasts and I've been doing you know plumbing for this many years and you know We're blowing up and the plumbing business and the construction business for selling companies for $200 million, we're doing super successful, super successful guy. But I'm willing to bring my podcast to you. So I'm like, really what's the name of your podcast? I go online, 29 views.

Oh, great. 32 views. For a million dollars. For a million bucks. No, but the way he said it like, I'm willing to bring the podcast to you. Like you should be lucky That's the wrong approach. Why is that the wrong approach?

Your first thing you got to do do it because you want to do it number two Don't do it because you want to make money because it's very hard if you do it just because you want to make money It's gonna take a lot of years for you to make money with it But do it because you want to do it even if it's once once a month, you start with once a week, you do something like that. Then once you have a proof of concept that you're winning out there, then we'll find you. Like when Vinnie first reached out to me, I'm like, remember one time I was sitting

or showing you Vinnie videos, wait before Vinnie, I was in baseball one. Yeah, I'm showing Vinnie videos. I'm like, this freaking guy is so funny. It wasn't baseball. It was, yeah, so we're gonna go out there to Vinnie Dulucci. So, hey, what's going on out there? And I was like, the mafia stuff, right?

Kavan, I watch Kavan's videos on the skits he's doing. And, you know, I come back from Harvard. I'm like, time, you got to start doing a show for K study. We didn't do it because Tom's going to make money. I talked to him like, dude, you got to get on camera. I don't know what you're going to be doing, but you got to do something. You didn't want to do any of this stuff. 2016. That was in 2016. But that's the right way to get into it. Because there's a love of the game. If you got love of the game, you're going to some people, and by the way, online, they're freaking brutal. They'll tell you what an idiot. Always so full of him. So I'll look at you.

He thinks he's funny. Look how ugly it is. Look at his, this, look at it. They're not going to hold back of making fun of you. So for me, I say, do it. If you're doing a for the right reasons, don't do it. If you want to get rid of you. So for me, I say, do it if you're doing it for the right reasons. Don't do it if you wanna get rid. I will say this, just to kind of counterbalance what you're saying. Well, number one, nobody makes mean comments online. Everyone's a nice, especially to you.

Oh, I'm pretty sure right now. Thank you guys for all the love of you. I'm gonna love you, I don't. You know, you're talking about, all right, you wanna get a podcast, you wanna tell your story. You know who cares about your story guy who wants to start a podcast?

Nobody. Nobody gives a shit. Nobody cares about you. Nobody wants to hear your story. Unless you're providing value to them. If you're doing it because you actually wanna make a difference because you actually wanna give back because you have empathy and authority,

that's a big difference. I didn't start podcasting until I made my money. And I was like, yeah, I'll do this. And I'm not doing this for money.'t start podcasting until I made my money. And I was like, yeah, I'll do this, and I'm not doing this for money. I'm doing this because I made my money. And now there's something more that I want to do with my life and give back. So if you're doing this because you think

you want to start a career, you're doing it the other way around. Make your money, have some authority, do something in business, do something in life. Great counsel. Have a comedic background, make a name for yourself, and then start podcasting. Tom, you know there's actually a story behind the story

here in Spotify, and for those of you that have a business, they actually did two things that I think were correct, but they made mistakes along the way. First thing is they go public in 2018, largely a music play, but they had real good success with premium. I paid for Spotify premium. I thought it gave me more than Apple and Pandora and a good variety and everything and after they went public They decided you know what music is a red ocean at any time Apple could

Move the price per song down to 52 cents. So we want to we want to strategically do something Look, podcasts are coming. Let's own it Rob. Which stock is this? I can't tell you because it's Spotify stock. I'll just keep on talking. And go to Max on that. We'll get to that in a second. If you would please. So, they take their money and they go out and they overpay. They pay $2.35 for megaphone, $140 for anchor,

so that they bought these services so that they could serve and launch and syndicate podcasts. And then they did one thing right on talent, one thing wrong. You never, never, never, never, never, overpay on exclusivity for an unproven talent. Never. So when they went out and got Rogan smart, he already had a private life.

That's right, he was already blown up on YouTube. He was what's called a free agent and they were what's called the Yankees and they can make the check. Well played, I'm sorry. Same thing for Bill Simmons, you don't have to like Bill Simmons, he's a little liberal, but he had the ringkees and they can make the check. Same thing for Bill Simmons. You don't have to like Bill Simmons. He is a little liberal, but he had the ringer.

They went out and bought him. Later, 2021, they went out and bought call her daddy out of free agency off of barstool. But then they do these things thinking that, you know, Kim, you know, Megan and Harry and Obama completely improve and you throw money out on for exclusivity. Exclusive what? Exclusive what? You're getting exclusive what? You're getting exclusive rookie.

That's not the way to do it. And so now they've come back and said, it didn't work. We're redoing the contracts. We're cutting programming. And if you go take a look there over the last month and a half, the stock market, what did I say about layoffs? The market loves layoffs when they're truthful and it turns it into EBITDA and take a look.

They're bouncing back up. However, the interesting thing here, Spotify since they've gone out in 2018, they are 8% more valuable than when they went out. And Pat, take a look at this. They go up in the top of 2021, that was music. And then they came down when they were suffering red ink losses because of all the stuff they don't podcast. You see that? And now they say, you know what? We're going to get out of the podcast game. Let me ask you question. When when when was it when they were trying to cancel Rogan? Can you pull

up the dates on when they try to cancel Rogan? 21 22. Okay. So some curious to know. 2020 was the buying spree on all this talent. No, no, I get the buying spray. But when was it when they were trying to cancel them? So that's February 2022. When did people say we're gonna remove our music and all that stuff? Is that around that time? It was about a year ago. Okay, go back to the stock. Yeah, we go back to the stock. So 20, so if you go 20 February, no, it was already going down. So that's got nothing to do with the world.

Can I comment on this graph right here? I think this graph is sort of synonymous with any tech savvy company. Dern COVID, everyone's isolated social distancing, their other phones, their other homes, everything blows up. I mean, you, Zoom stock, I think would be look exactly like this, if not even worse.

Compare. It's a higher peak. Exactly, but so it's just, you talk about fake success, a lot of fake success happened during COVID. Because the world completely changed, all the tech stuff, anything that allowed you to do anything, work from anywhere, everything was great, everything was up.

Is this Zoom right here? Yeah, that's exactly what's going on. So your point is, this is common with everything. So it's not just by by dropped because of Spotify, they drop because it was all tech. Reversion to the mean, everything's going back to where it should be. Six hundred million. So the difference is, the difference is, which good point,

the difference is zoom when down, they stay down, Spotify is coming back up because they're making better strategies and better investments. They got a bump. Zoom has not had a bump yet. So we'll see what it happens. Zoom was like the equivalent of having a huge massive one hit song called COVID Love. And then boom, they never had a hit again. Okay.

Did you agree? Let's go to the next story, which kind of goes coincides with this. Messi drives jump in Apple TV Plus, an MLS subscription, another Wall Street Journal story. Lionel Messi's arrival in North America has a profound impact on subscriptions with over 110,000 new US signups for MLS season pass on the day of his intern in Miami debut,

a leap of the prior days, 61.43. So they went from 6,143 people signing up to 110,000 people, one signing up in one day, by the way, that's nearly 20x. Okay, Apple TV's experienced substantial growth and subscriptions in July, making the strongest month for new customers in 2023 driven by Messy's

presence, Apple CEO Tim Cook acknowledged the positive influence of Messy's move to Inter Miami under subscriber numbers, Apple's $2.5 billion deal. Would MLS granting exclusive streaming rights globally has proven successful, even with a smaller subscriber base compared to rivals like Netflix. Tom. Well, here you go. Messy is a proven, proven commodity comes over to the US market. Apple TV says, we're going to foreground this.

We're going to make the MLS season pass. That's going to, and by the way, tell me if you've heard this story before. Apple TV wants to drive subscriptions to Apple TV so it creates an exclusive relationship with the sport. Now what do we know about sport? Every year you want to watch, it's not like, I got tired of that series, it kind of got burnt out of me. Game of Thrones finally burned out, there's nothing new.

No, sport is your team. Every year there's a new opportunity, a new dream, a new champion and you have that. It's the same thing Direct TV did with Sunday ticket, remember? Direct TV was the only place you could get all the NFL games and they owned that market. Apples done the same thing here. It's incredibly smart. And Messi was incredibly smart in his contract to say, hey, you know this thing called upside?

Yeah, I want a piece of that. You know, you know, it's crazy. There's three things that's keeping cable in business. One is old people, two is big pharma, and three is sports. Watch this. Old people, you got a decade or two with them. If you're lucky, sports, they're about to be picked up

by all these other streaming companies that are picking them up. Three, cable TV is one president away from making big pharma illegal advertising in America from all cable TV being done. And by the way, all it takes is one bold crazy president to do what? To do something that's never been done before. No, you got 200 countries worldwide, 195, two allow big formal to advertise.

We know the two. We've talked about them plenty of times. New Zealand and US. If America, if a president in America chooses to do so you're just going to be another one you know only other countries New Zealand in what space does the world follow New Zealand's pace. No nothing if New Zealand wants to do it go for it so streaming is not making it easy for these guys especially if these sports guys are going there and they're getting results. Can I say something about Messi?

It has anyone had a better year than Lionel Messi. I was just gonna say that. World Cup, step champion, winner, has the opportunity to go to Saudi Arabia for what, $400 million a year? And says, no, I'm gonna bet on myself. Wow. I'm gonna take the upside with this Apple deal.

I'm gonna move to the best city in the world. Miami, Florida. Yeah, shout out to Mayor Suarez. The best neighbor in Florida. Best neighborhoods. But this is called betting on yourself. And you hit the nail in the head, Tom. He was a free agent.

He had already proven himself. He was the Joe Rogan of Food Ball and look at him now, baby. And he's dominating the MLS right now. He's filling it. Like, the hottest team on the planet now. You got David Beckham there. You got LeBron there. Everyone's going to the games.

Dave Grootman, everyone. It's the greatest show on turf at this point. And one parting shout on the business iPad is sports does well because nobody fast forwards to the ads. Everybody watches live and you end up watching the ads. Whereas it's a proven fact that that only about a quarter of Americans watch the ads if they're watching something else. What a great point.

They usually fast forward. Yeah. That makes sense. Especially if they're watching later and they're binge watching. That's right. I only have one friend that would watch reruns and he would tell everybody, don't tell me any of the score of what happened. Steve would watch. Like the whole thing.

No, no, he would watch the Miami Heat Games later on when he would come home. Yep. He would watch it on his pace, recorded. Not live, he liked to watch the games and no one, none of his friends could tell him what the results were. So people would piss him off. Hard to do now. So what a awesome. Yeah, not out of it at this point.

Yeah, so anyway, so that's that part. Next story I wanna get to is top-fed officials signals interest rates to stay unhulled at September meaning. This is a financial time story. Vinnie, I'm gonna come to you on this one. I'm gonna come to you. Final, Chris.

Chris, Chris, you're waiting with me. Chris, Christopher Waller of Federal Reserve officials suggested that the central bank is likely to keep its benchmark interest rate unchanged at the upcoming September meaning, citing recent economic data as not warranting imminent monetary tightening. Waller emphasized there's nothing that is saying we need to do anything imminent anytime soon. Waller's remarks, echo at Federal Reserve Chair, Jay Powell stands at Jackson, Hawaii,

Oming Symposium, emphasizing a data-driven approach, recent labor market reports, indicated a slow, slowing demand for workers in the US, prompting the Fed to close the amount of inflation indicators, despite improvements in inflation, data Waller remained cautious, emphasizing the importance of sustained trends,

rather than isolated reports, Tom. Yeah, so the importance of sustained trends rather than isolated reports Tom. Yeah, so the feds gonna get together September 19th and 20th, but Jay Powell will not be going upstairs to pound the cheerleader. She's gonna get a break. They're not gonna raise rates. Jesus. It's not gonna happen. However on Halloween Jerome Powell is gonna dress as somebody and they're going upstairs. And unless some of these soft economic things that we're seeing, we're probably going to get a quarter point increase on October 31st.

And there's a lot of people, including me, analysts that believe that will be our last increase. And then we've got to get through the winters, see how Black Friday and fourth quarter goes and everything like that. But hoping, I'm hoping there's none on October 31st, but it looks like with the softness we'll probably get a quarter point. But nothing in the next two weeks, which is a good thing.

What will be the first decrease? I think the first decrease, I'm with the consensus on this. The bigger banks is probably April, right at the beginning of second quarter, is you get a quarter point back. But here's what it needs, and it's kind of bad. What it needs is softer consumer spending, so it doesn't drive inflation prices, and it needs a little bit of softness in the labor market. So some layoffs, and we're seeing some of those.

We need a little bit more softness in the labor market to keep wages down. How much of what Amazon does on Black Friday and holiday season is going to kind of tell us where consumer spending is and how it's going to dictate interest rates? Well, I happen to be very interested in how the hell the US consumer is going to make Black Friday crazy when they've now drove their consumer credit cards up to $1 trillion. How do they go nuts on Black Friday crazy when they've now drove their consumer credit cards up to $1 trillion. How do they go nothing Black Friday this year? If 30 days ago consumer credit hit the largest total credit balance of all time.

Yeah, I was just gonna go there if you follow the math. So let's just follow some of the numbers here for a second. So the Fed funds rate is what? Five and a quarter, five and a half percent, right? So that's the rate at which the Fed lends money to or gives money to the banks. And then the prime rate, which is the number that banks will use to basically disperse money

the regular people is usually around 3% higher than the Fed funds rate. So basically you're talking Fed fund rate, five, five and a quarter, five and a half, to the prime rate, which you would receive or businesses would receive at about eight and a half. There's your mortgages. Okay, there's your mortgages, exactly.

But you brought up the best point. The average person out there, you talked about that credit card debt just passed the trillion dollar student debts already done it. Auto loans are already there, mortgages are already 10 trillion, whatever the number is over there. But speaking of credit card debt, you know the, you're speaking, the prime rate being 8.5%. Do you know the average credit card rate in America today, the average, take a guess.

24. 19.9%, 20%. Highest of all time was 17% last year. So they're breaking records. These are the type of records that you want to be breaking if you're an average consumer. So it's very important just pay attention to the interest rates. There it is right there. 20.9, 21%.

If you just want to round up. Okay, listen, if you're trying to make money investing, a good decent rate of return would be what? 10%, that's what the stock market pays over time. You're losing money going the opposite way when you're trying to go this way. It's disastrous and it's killing your wealth. Guys, let's not,

because I don't want to show off, paying, getting some of the finance up, but everything that you and Tom said I concur so that's That's great. I don't want to disagree my constituents are one I just we appreciate that We appreciate you know the cap on credit card debt with like the highest they can charge you. Do you know what it is? No clue? 30% That's like that's all that you're allowed so right now you're paying to be higher Let's start a credit card company. Yeah, well, that's a big business to get into But what they're starting to do is the the the level of regulation and scrutiny right now with visa master card

The world they're dealing with it's not what it used to be because a lot of guys see these numbers and they're like Let's go into the credit card business. It's not what you think it is There used to be a lot of money in a year's so ago, the kind of regulations hurt them a little bit. It's still profitable, but it takes a lot more to get into it. Rob, can you do me a favor, pull up the Liberty Safe story. Pull up the Liberty Safe story on what just happened.

By the way, very weird story, guys, on what happened with Liberty Safe. Can you just go pull up what Liberty Safe is? Some people have a Liberty Safe, and they don't, maybe you don't know what Liberty safe is I have once you see it go to images just go to images. It's not that song Liberty Liberty So that's a Liberty safe go to their logo, okay, like I have a Liberty safe I have one of them. I have a Liberty safe and I have to but I have a Liberty safe

Okay, so yeah, so watch this now go to the story what happened credible story Been around for a long time. A lot of people who are gun owners, trust what Liberty Safe is. You know, their history goes years back on what they've done, et cetera, et cetera. I can say a bunch of things about these guys. However, story comes out gun maker, gun safe maker, facing backlash for giving FBI access to customer safe without court order. What?

Liberty Safe and Security products, the popular manufacturer Gunsafe is facing heavy criticism for helping the FBI carry out a raid last week on a man who allegedly participated in January 6th, capital write the company, which advertises itself as America's number one heavy duty. No longer home and gun safe manufacturers about to change admitted on Wednesday to turning over the defendants private

access codes to feds without a court order prompting backlash and raising questions about why Liberty Safe even had the codes in the first place on August 30th agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation FBI rated and and arrest the 34-year Arkansas resident, Nathan Hughes, and connection with the Capitol Ride on January 6, 2021. Hughes was served with an arrest warrant charging with a felony civil disorder offense on a misdemeanor participation in the two and a half years since so-called insurrection. The FBI has arrested over 700 people, et cetera, et cetera. By the way, when you think about this, go a little low-rob if you can, go a little lower.

What do Hatch-to-and-say there? I want to see what they say. That's their friend, you know that, that's their friend. So watch this, this is a very big deal, by the way. Do you remember what happened at San Bernardino shooting? Yes, okay. So who was the president back then?

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Visa is ready to build a next generation of Fintech together. Learn more at visa.ca. And Obama was president. Who did he allegedly and his camp call to get the, to break the code to the iPhone? Tim Cook. Tim Cook said, go to hell. Go to hell.

Now, let's get the straight. Tim Cook was the first openly gay CEO of a Fortune 500 company in the world to come out and say, I'm gay, I'm a CEO and I'm taking Apple from $100 billion to a $3 trillion company. Liberty safe. If you were to guess which site of the aisle you think politically, most of their customers are going to be,

what would you guess they are? I would say Republicans, what percentage would you say they're on the right? 85%. Okay, let's say 75% plus percent is on the right. What the hell are you thinking? What are you thinking? Like, so now, what do you think a customer's gonna look

at Liberty Safe and Safe? And what's my alternative? Aren't these guys the guys I give up the coat to other people? Aren't these guys the guys I give up the code to other people? Aren't these guys the guys I give up the code to everybody? Isn't this a guy the, wait, free enterprise, free market company is going to help the government? So you're going to work together to get my access. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm not okay with this.

What do you think about when you hear stories like this? Horrible because think about it, you're paying for this service and you're paying for the privacy. And that mind you, besides the fact that the pride boy situation, that's something that we're gonna get into later. It's like, I don't care what the situation is, getting into that, there's a contract that you sign

when you buy this type of stuff. And Pat, I don't know if you guys know this or not. Last night, they came out with a response, Liberty Safe Rob, I sent you the photos, if you wanna put that up. They said, we listen to our bother because they know the Bud Light situation is about to happen. They just tucked it.

Yeah, we listened to our customers and updated our products and practices and response to the involving needs. Today, we are announcing a change that empowers our customers with the greater control. Exactly, two-lay, through information, effective immediately. Existing customers can visit the LibertySafe.com pages, combination removal, and fill out, you have to do the work. Fill out a form to have records of their access codes expunged.

In the coming weeks and be releasing the feature that gives you every new customer this option when registering their say, so basically Pat, they know they're messing up and they're going backwards, but listen, like you just said, it's too late. And here's the other thing, they're saying it's an insurrection. They had to go into the guy's safe. If he brought those weapons to the Capitol, then I'd say put them in jail, but you're going

in a safe, getting his code. Obviously, it wasn't out in the open. I don't see the... Yeah, no, it's... These guys were founded in 1980. I'd rob if you can go to their Wikipedia. Liberty Safe began operations out of a single storage unit over the past 30 years. A company has grown from a small facility to 205,000 square foot facility in Utah and can

produce more than 500 safes a day as of 2018. They claim to have sold 2 million safes during the first 30 years. The company employs 350 people. Founders name is Jack Crosby. I don't even know if Jack Crosby is still running a company or not. But this is a massive just so you know, Liberty safe. It may take you years before you gain the trust back of people out there. Look at the name of the CEO. That's what I said, Jack Rosby. No, no, no, two lines down. Oh, hang on. The CEO, the key people. Joe fail. Well, they fail. Fail. Fail. Fail. Wasn't I running out of the words safe?

Like you're a safe company. Now nobody's going to feel safe, especially when you're giving the FBI access to your company. So we have something from their marketing group. This is a response to the controversy. We are changing our name to tyranny unsafe. And our slogan will be, when you need to protect your guns, most of the time. Nice. At least I mean,

honestly, I didn't, I just have a question, maybe just play Devils Advocate for a second. Yeah. So, how does this work? Does there a search warrant involved? At what point do they have to open up the safe? I'm just wondering,

I'm sure they weren't like excited to do this. Apple was not charged. They held the ground and said, we're not gonna give you, we're not giving this up. Because, and good thing held the ground and said, we're not going to give you a, we're not giving this up. Because, think about it, Adam, regardless of the situation, proud boys or whatever,

we're talking about insurrection, right? Nobody was shot. The only person that was shot and killed was a United States military female veteran. So I don't know what is he having there? The map and the diagram of the capital, it's ridiculous. And I'm happy that they're being exposed. And yeah, Pat, I agree that's going to take them a long time.

Otherwise, you have that big safe, Pat, you have a sick, the rise of you, it's a liberty safe. A massive liberty safe. I thought something happened with the safe. We couldn't open it. No, of course. Yeah, but brown. So just so you know, browning,

browning safe is a competitor of theirs. And there's a couple of other ones. Fort Knox is another one. Browning safe is one of them. Browning has been around for 145 years since 1878. And what's the fun is they're all side of Utah. So both companies are out of Utah. Browning and Liberty Safe.

So if we go to Fort Knox, go look to see how long Fort Knox has been around. I would invest in them today, Pat. Like think about it. I would invest in them and I would put a promo for if I was them right now, I'd be like, hey, guys, guess what? You want your stuff safe? Come to Browning. Yeah, Browning. So, but what's the Fort Knox SAVE? Can you look at their history on how long they've been around? At this point, I'm actually really curious to on how long they've been around? At this point, I'm actually really curious to know how long they've been around gun saves. What is the year?

If you do have it, Rob. Pa, pa, pa, pa, pa, let me see this. Is it shown on their website? On what it is, if you go to about us, anyways. So it's a nice two. So it's 1892. 1892. 1982.

So, so Browning gets in the 1800s. Fort Knox is 1982. This other one is also in the 80s. Liberty safe. Big miss, this is big miss. I mean, look, is it going to make you think twice? You go to the store to buy safe. You see Liberty safe.

You see Browning. You see Fort Knox. Who are you going to buy? Not Liberty. How about that? Whatever, but Liberty, does it change your influence time? You're a gun owner. Completely changes my influence because I look at it this way. I'm thinking two steps ahead. You know, your next five move. Yeah. I have a thing called your next five thoughts. I'm like, what if they have a rogue employee that's just go get my access code

and get my address off the warranty card and come over and steal my shit? That's the point. Yeah. This is, this Yeah, this is, this is, and a hack, this is, they're carrying these codes. That doesn't make me feel good. You know what it does to, it gives you so much more respect for Tim when Tim Cook didn't give anything to Obama.

I agree, I agree. It gives so much more respect for Tim Cook. And by the way, this leads me into what's going on with China, what China announced with Apple. If he can pull this up Rob, China has just imposed an immediate ban on all Apple devices by government officials.

Apple's the largest company in the world and 96% of their products are manufactured in China. Let me say this again, 96% of their products are manufactured in China. If you go to read the story against the backdrop of the tensions between Beijing and Washington, the extension of a ban in post for more than two years ago, signaling growing challenges in the US,

which relies heavily on China for revenue growth and manufacturing staff in the three ministries. And government bodies were told not to use iPhone at work said the sources, who declined to be named due to their sensitivity of the situation. One of the sources said they had not yet been given a deadline to seize their iPhone, Apple and China State Council and Formation Office,

which handles media queries. On behalf of the government, did not immediately respond to request for comment. It was not immediately clear how widely the ban was being enforced with a third source at one of the three ministries saying he still was using an iPhone and had not heard about the restriction of four

Source at a Chinese regulatory body said they had not been explicitly banned but were told they would be held Responsible shit any issue emerged with the use of their iPhone and a fifth source said at another regulatory body Says senior staff had two years ago already been required to swap their iPhones for locally made brands such as Huawei technologies What else do we have under 2020 Chinese? Okay, go a little lower up to see if there's anything else there Can you do me a favor Bloomberg on terms of report a China plan to broaden the ban? Okay, Bloomberg on Thursday reported that China plan to broaden the ban to state firms and agency siding sources Let's see what Apple stock is doing based on this announcement. Did it do anything to Apple stock today? Go to Apple stock today. It's down 3.2%. Okay. Apple stock is down 3.2%, which 3.2% may not seem like a lot of money, but 3.2%

is roughly a 3 trillion. You got 10% will be 300 billion. Three percent would be $30 billion loss today. Pat, what is the reason behind? Why don't they? Pat lost $30 billion today. They lost a snapchat. They got to get a whole lot of money. They lost a snapchat today. Oh, wow, that's hilarious.

Yeah, they lost the snapchat. Pat, what do you think? What do you think is behind the not using a phone that's made in that country? Is it for security? Are they watching you or are you on the internet? Are you on what? There's a lot of different things going on here. One, Tim Cook slowly moved 25% of his structure to India,

like to manufacturing, he wanted to do in India. And then even Apple ended up having some friction with India. If you go back and rob typing, Tim Cook, Apple India, there was some problems there, you know, manufacturing that they're going back and forth. And so when you say you're moving gradually some of your business outside of China, China sitting there, say, wait a minute. All these years, we gave you all this business. Now you want to move out to a different place. What are you doing? And but the reality of it is,

Tim Cook has to do this. And he has to do it in such a subtle, patient way knowing if there is a man, a CEO in the world that's walking on ex-shows and has been walking on ex-shows for the last two years, it's Tim Cook. Imagine you're a three trillion dollar company, all eyes on you, okay? You're trying to move 96% of your manufacturing is made in China. After COVID, China showed how much control they had around the world, the control with the chips. And you're like, hey, guys, we have to slowly, don't tell anybody, we gotta move this out.

How are we gonna do this 96% to a different place? I don't know, but we have to do it and we have to do it slowly. So just what? Right, go with the cycle. By the way, just something crazy to be thinking about. Do you know the new iPhone is coming out next couple of weeks? Yes.

Do you know how much it's going to be? I heard it's more than a MacBook. Is it a thousand? No, no, no, no, no, put the new iPhone price. You know, right? Oh, you heard about this, right? I heard it. It's going to be the most expensive iPhone ever.

Ever. It's going to be the most expensive iPhone ever. If you can just find that the most recent story wrap on how much they're selling it at, their stories of it. Don't go to stores, go to stories, go to news, go to news all the way at the top. Yeah, it's not showing you anything. Okay. So like the average price, I listen, the stories I've heard is 35% more than it usually is. That's what I've heard. I may be wrong, but I've heard it's going to be pretty high and I don't know if this has anything to do with that

Roll down a little maybe go a little lower right there iPhone 15 will be starting at $799 That's what I heard the $9,000 pro you might buy like 15 pro max starts at $1300 And it can go as high as $2,000 What I'd rather get a computer. You'd rather get a Mac, but then just- But you have to also realize, if Apple is having to move this stuff out, they don't have a choice, but to have to raise prices. So a lot of people want this thing to be made in America,

we can make it in America for three times the price. You're okay with that. For $4,000 on the phone. Yeah. Well, it does another real quick one here on India. So not only do they want to move to India so that they can manufacture and they can balance the risk of Chinese manufacturer and things like that,

like a conservative president put in tariffs and things like that. So Tim Cook's trying to do that. But what is Tim Cook's market share today in India? That's a very good question. 5.1%. It is 95% Android. So if you want to keep growing, you have to open new markets. You have to find. 5.1%. It is 95% Android. So if you want to keep growing,

you have to open new markets, you have to find new consumers. And there's a big stack of them sitting in India. So they want to make the phones there, and they also want to break open into the India market and have more success. There's only one big problem with India, okay? What?

India is not China. Let me explain what I mean by this. India has, is one of the only big countries in the world that's banned TikTok. India's banned 100, what do you call it? Chinese apps. Chinese apps in India. India doesn't give a shit about America or China.

They're not playing the card of being controlled and being bought. They've seen what happened to other places. They do not playing the card of being controlled and being bought. They've seen what happened to other places. They do not. The benefit India has is they're ten years behind China, right? Whether it's with their roads, whether it's with their internet, whether it's with their broadband, their broadband sucks, by the way, in India. And they don't have it a lot of different markets.

Infrastructure is a mess over there, right? School in all of that. Hospitals, airports, ports, period, that a lot of prompts. But the benefit of being 10 years behind is gives you what? Growth. You know, you get to see, gives you vision of all the mistakes they made

and you get to see the relationship between China and US to say, look, those are 19 mistakes, China made. Those are 17 mistakes, US made. Guys, we're not going to be doing this because we do not want to be in control by America and we don't want to be losing trust around the world like China did. Let's move a little bit more strategically.

That's the edge India, I believe, has. And then don't forget India is the largest democracy in the world under Modi, right? And everything they're doing, China is still CCP, communism, state, run, capitalism, everyone to put it. Back to the Tim Cook Apple thing. I don't know, what kind of responsibility do you take

from moving 97% of your manufacturing over to a communist country so you can get some cheap child labor respect? But I don't know, there's some level accountability as a pay for it. And you talked about we got to quietly move things out to India. They're well aware. They're watching every other thing.

Okay, the spy balloon. Yeah, exactly. I love this insider article that says China may now never take over the US crown as the world's largest economy. So that's big news. Ever since we've been focusing on the China issue, ever since we started the podcast, 2020, I've been like, holy shit, China, they're coming for us. China, China 2025, China 2030, they're coming for us.

But COVID has basically allowed the world to be like, what's really going on in China right now? Good. And what have we seen? Tourism has plummeted. Investments in the country has plummeted. Businesses are slowly stealthily moving out of there. But the biggest thing that China has lost is trust.

The world don't trust you, jeezing pain. The world is fully aware of what you got going on now. And now, whether it's stealthily or openly, people are like, I'm getting the hell out of this. Let me address the first question, which is a very valid question you brought up on Tim Cook. It is on Tim Cook to have the answer to the question, why is 96% of your manufacturing for Apple being done in China?

Very fair question. Okay, he's come back. I don't know what his answer gonna be. I'm not gonna speak on his behalf, but this is what I would be thinking. I would say, when we first started doing business with China, China didn't have the kind of lack of trust in the world that they do today. What did you want me to do? We've been doing business with China. China didn't have the kind of lack of trust in the world that they do today.

What did you want me to do? We've been doing business with China for many, many years. And all of a sudden, we're so into deep because we were able to make nice margins, deliver the product for people. We were able to get, you know, as many iPhones that people wanted to order, no other country could move this fast,

not including America, not including this, at the price that that you want, and for us to get our margins. So he, when you're into deep in a relationship like that, you know, in today's economy, let's just say Tim is starting Apple today and Steve Jobs just came out with the iPhone today or the iPod today or the I touch today,

whatever the new product is. He's probably in today's climate, not signing a manufacturing deal with China, but this is a relationship that's been going on for decades with China Way before they were scary empire on what they did with COVID. Well, I totally understand that. I understand that if I may respond He knew he was well aware that it's still a communist country even if they were you know Had certain capitalist tendencies. He was well aware they were, you know, had certain capitalist tendencies. He was well aware. But I don't know, maybe I'm just oversimplifying this.

If I have an investment portfolio, if I'm starting a company, or if I'm my own personal investment portfolio, I have 60% domestic stocks, I have 25% international, I have 5% bonds, I'm putting 2% in crypto, I'm gonna diversify. So just God forbid the US economy goes down, the Chinese economy goes down, what there's going to be other asset classes

that go up. To go in, I don't know if it's 96 or 97% whatever it is, that is the vast majority of your manufacturer. This works, bro. That's not what they teach me. No, I know you're asking the right question. This is when the podcast gets exciting when we're having these types of exchanges, right? So I just Google when Apple started doing business with China. Okay, so check this out.

Probably 1990. No, it's 2001, believe it or not. I thought it was further back, right? So if you Google Rob, when did Apple start doing business with China? That's exactly the words it'll come up. In 2001, Apple broke her to partnership with China. Apple broke her to partnership with China. Apple brokered a deal with China.

The government poured billions of dollars into a new infrastructure for Apple building factories, paving new roads, constructing housing for Apple workers, Kate Whitehead helped oversee Apple's operations in China. Now, watch this. When did Steve Jobs die? Probably right around that. Nope, he died in 2011, 10 years later.

Oh, really? Okay, yes. So meaning in not only in 10 years or 12 years, so the point is, this is under Steve Jobs, when you're in China and China and Steve, everybody thought China was the way to go back in a day. China was like the future frontier, you know, Richard Nixon broke the deal. Thanks, thanks.

Everything is good. We're all doing business. Ray Dalio's hardcore pro-China. One of the interviews that it was Steve Ray Dalio. We talked about China. Was not the friendliest interview. No, it was very uncomfortable. It was very uncomfortable.

I remember that. I remember that. Because he was defending China, and I'm like, wait a minute, America first over China. But the moral of the story is, when you're into deep like that, and by the way, when did they launch iPhone? What year did they launch iPhone? What year was iPhone launched? 2007? 2004. I don't know. 2007. So 2007 iPhone is launched. You signed a deal with China in 2001. 2011 Jobs dies. You know, Tim Cook comes in in 2011, 2012. You know, you're kind of coming in and seeing the numbers

and in all of a sudden, now you're today, Tim Cook has a very hard job today. So what you're saying is it's not on Cook, it was on jobs and now Cook is his deal is responsibility to unwind. I don't think it's on anybody. I mean, we have an insurance company that we're doing all these policies, right?

So yesterday, we're having a conversation with one of our carriers right now that we've given so much business to that now It's kind of like you know you have to make the adjustments where somebody doesn't have that much market share 96 is very scary very very scary. I very uncomfortable It's very uncomfortable to have 96% of pH-based business went on. That's what I'm saying. National life, one area.

This is a great conversation to have is what I'm saying to you. It's a very good conversation to have right now with this. Okay, any comments that we go to the next story? Okay, let's go to the next story here. All right, so next story. BMW Mercedes-Benz launched biggest EV push yet to catch Tesla. They're new models. Let's go to page number six.

BMW Mercedes are aggressively entering the electric vehicle market to counter competition with Tesla and Chinese contenders. At the IAA mobility motor show, they revealed significant development, unveiling electric concept cars and advanced EV platforms to solidify their presence in the EV domain. Mercedes introduced a new concept CLA class. and advanced EV platforms to solidify their presence in the EV domain. Mercedes introduced a new concept CLA class and electric vehicle built on new architecture

featuring a remarkable range of 750 kilometers and the capability to achieve 400 kilometers range within a 50 minute charge. Mercedes Benz CEO, Ola, Kalanios, emphasize the revolutionary nature of the car stating with those efficiency numbers, that kind of range, that kind of fast charging. I'm not aware of any vehicle in that class that can match it.

On the other hand, BMW showcased a vision new class, a new electric concept car that underlines the company's EV ambitions and introduced a new platform for EVs. Rob, can you show the picture of that Mercedes Benz they're talking about? Let's see what it looks like, a time go forward. What are your thoughts on the story here? Well, first of all,

everyone's caught up with making cars with Tesla. And they're cute on the little side and they're gorgeous on the big side and they're going farther than ever, which now they're able to get over 300 miles pretty regularly with the battery technology. What's funny in this is all the headlines are, ah, Elon Musk has finally been caught

by all the automakers. Finally, he's gonna take it in the chops on this. Well, on June 16th, Ford came to Elon Musk and said we'd like to sign a contract with you so that our people have been asking us a question since buying Ford Lightning pickups. Outside of my garage, where do I plug the son of a bitch in? And Tesla has 12,000 superchargers across the United States.

Then in July, Mercedes, before these announcements were made, said, yeah, can we borrow your super chargers? So that's now built into the Mercedes credit card when you get a Mercedes that's electric and you go charge it a Tesla on Maclachar just to you. And then seven car makers got together including Hyundai, Kia, NBMW and announced seven years after Elon Musk started building electric gas stations. They announced we're going to build a chain of our own as well. And so what I think is really interesting is electric cars and never been better.

We're living in the golden age of electric vehicles right now. They're beautiful. Look at this. They're advanced. The chips. The chips and everything. We were talking about Nvidia the other day and you just look at what's in there. They're just gorgeous. But plug it in and keep them going. Even when they go 300 miles is another thing. And the other side of Tesla, they're an energy company. And so he's a gas station for everybody else. So I like to say Elon Musk started a war for razors, but he's at their selling razor blades.

God, I love it. I love that he's doing that. And I will tell you a couple of different things to your top to be considering with this. Number one, capitalism works. The competitors are probably watching Tesla and seeing a CEO that's a bit distracted because he's dealing with a bigger problem, which is Twitter and his focus is no longer one-dimensional

focus on a company. Anytime somebody's 100% focused on one company, no matter how smart you are, no matter how brilliant you are, no matter how sharp you are, you're always going to beat the competitor if you're 100% focused on one item, one project, then you are on dealing with a lot of different things. So when he was focused on Tesla, you know, great, that's a formidable competitor. So capitalism seen that as an opportunity to capitalize.

Number two is the following. Who do you think has a high ESG score? BMW, Mercedes-Benz, or Tesla? Not Tesla. It's not even a question. So BMW, Mercedes-Benz, all of these guys, when a book comes out, when a business book comes out, I'll never forget what our publisher said to us.

I'm not gonna name the publisher and please don't say what publisher, if I'm saying this. So if a publisher comes out to us and say, hey Pat, the position you're taking, I'm telling you right now, New York Times, no matter if you sell a hundred thousand copies your first month. By the way, your next five moves, I couldn't even believe it. If you go on Amazon right now, typing your next five moves to book, uh,

I've not promoted this book for God knows. I don't even know when the last time I brought up your next five moves on this podcast, the book, go to your next five moves and go to audible. Uh, if you can just go on audible, click on the book and then go on audible, right in the middle and then next five moves and go to Audible. If you can just go on Audible, click on the book and then go on Audible right in the middle and then go all the way on the bottom ranking. Click on audio books and go all the way in the bottom and then zoom in a little bit on the ranking. Zoom in a little bit right there. Right there. Zoom in a little bit. It's right above your rap. Go a little, rap, zoom in right there. Right there. Bro, ranking.

Hop the screen right there. Jesus, Rob. You shit, Rob. Right there. Ranking. God number. Rob, you're on it. Just zoom in. It says bookseller ranking to the left. Top left. Oh my gosh. Roll up a little bit.

Right there. Yeah. Yeah. Out of 10 million audio books, it's ranked 146 today. Wow. How? This the highest at several ranks since we launched the book three years ago.

I don't even know why it's ranked. We've not sold this book a single time, right? But here's the part the publisher said something very interesting to me. He said pat if You want this book to be a New York Times bestseller. Just know they're not gonna pick a guy like you to be on the New York Times bestseller list You're just not gonna be because You're not their audience. Okay, so then we have touben here, Jeffrey Tuben. Okay. Who's here? Okay. The mad James book, his book, his book doesn't make it on the Wall Street Journal. And because, you know, Wall Street Journal goes based on numbers being sold. New York Times doesn't go based on

numbers being sold. New York Times goes based on likeability and they value you. Wall Street Journalist, you sold numbers? You're ranked, we get the report. New York Times like you need more than just numbers. We're looking for you being this and you being that and you being this. Okay. So what lists and media companies you think are gonna write positive, by the way here, his book came out May 2nd, 2023

It's you know These books become New York, Tambas sellers. I don't know if this one but his last two or three became New York, Tambas sellers Chapter six and seven are stuck together. Yeah, that's right. I remember that. Yeah So so but but here's the point here's a point websites, articles, you think are going to write positively about Tesla? What did them, which one of you can't, are going to number one EV in the world Tesla? No. No. This is all opinion by the way. So when it comes on to opinion, who's going to be at the top? Mercedes, you're going to have BMW, you're going to have anybody, which is ironic because they come from the Germany regime. They don't care about that. They don't care. Anything but Tesla.

Yeah, they're the Elon's a Nazi. Yeah. We love Mercedes would be a who is actually from there, right? Yeah. But if you have changed. Yeah. So when you think about this part, what do you think about competition? Who has an advantage? They have a massive advantage. You know, when we lead into the next story here, next story being about the gentleman that was interviewed, Larry, who was interviewed on Tucker Carlson, right? I can loosen up my tongue because I'm going to go to the next place. So this story comes

out. And by the way, a lot of people are infuriated with Tucker Carlson interviewing this guy. Why would you do this? Why would you do this? Barack Obama has not been a president for this many years, shame on you, Tucker. You're just doing it for eyeballs. I think I heard John Stewart. If he can pull up John Stewart, it wasn't even John Stewart. I think I saw another person that said, his failed propaganda show on Twitter. His failed propaganda show on Twitter after getting fired from Fox. So that's the story line on what they're saying, right?

But anyway, see, you know, we use this guy, pit risky. Right, I think you brought him up to us like a month ago. Didn't you bring this up a month? I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did. He actually did. What, Larry's, Larry's in clear. You brought him up like a couple months ago, right?

And what did you say? I said, I said, not right now. I'm like, not right now, right. Okay, so, but the story comes out that Obama, that Tucker Carlson claims, Obama spoke, smoked crack and had gay sex, okay. Let me read this properly on page eight folks. If you got kids listening, tell them to go have ice cream

and stuff, wait for a few minutes. Okay, all right, here we go. Tucker Carlson during an interview with Dave Portnoy, revived Larry Sinclair's claims, stating in 2008, it became clear that Barack Obama had been having sex with men and smoking crack Carlson noted that Sinclair signed an affidavit and an underwent a lie detector test saying,

I smoke crack, we're Barack Obama and had sex and that was obviously true. Carlson criticized the media's handling of the allegations saying that the Obama campaign threatened to deny access to anyone reporting on the claims he emphasized. Nobody reported on it because they were squeamish about sex or drugs, but because the Obama campaign said anyone who reports on this gets no access to Obama's campaign.

So no one talked about it. And this guy was seen as a cuckoo crazy, you know, a drug addict, he's got a big criminal record. And if you go back, look at his criminal record. It's between 1980 to 1986. And he does have some things, but it's mainly during that era. So they have to undermine him. Now, here's the thing. I don't know if it's true or not. I'm purely going based on speculation. One question I have is, why is Tucker doing it now? Is it because he's now free? And he's able to do whatever he wants to do and he wanted to do this at Fox and Foxwood and allow him to Interview this guy and report him that could be one reason too

What other motive does he have to want to get under Obama skin today? And it's a trending topic all over Twitter, okay when you see some like this. What are your thoughts on this? Well, first of all, Barack's a little, he's a little rascal. That guy, besides the drugs and all that stuff, let's just really fat up right now. What can be clear? Yeah. First of all, the night in question, the Larry Sinclair pat, he's visiting his god son, he's graduating from the military, Naval thing, he gets a limo, he leaves. He asks the limo driver, hey, I want to hook up with dudes and I want to do drugs. The limo driver goes, I have the spot and I know some people. So this is like, he's delivering gay

guys to Barack almost like Uber eats but for gay men. It's like Uber gay. So it's in Chicago. In Chicago. So no, yeah, in Chicago. So guys, he brings them there. He gets a baroque. They have some drinks. He does, he's doing cocaine with them on a CD thing. Baroque pulls out a pipe and he smokes it. And even layers and clear. It's like to each his own whatever. They start getting down into limo. But here, here's the thing where people are like, why do you care? And listen, let's just, I'll get to that point. But let's go. I do the timeline of suspect, suspect activity. And first of all, yesterday, Michelle Obama, knowing that this interview was coming out, she traveled to New York, Spain and spent time with her close friends, Jamie Costa, and

his husband, Michael Smith, a gay couple without Barack, Barack stayed back, all right. Let's go do the timeline. 1999, he smokes crack, relax and clear. Who might you pass? Signed to affidavit and passed a lie detector test. I don't know if any of you guys have taken lie detector test I have in the military. You're not a guy some random dude that's gay and those drugs and he's not passing a past CIA operatives Know how to pass it because they trained to pass it, okay?

So I think his his his claim is is legit Let's go 2007, a choir director at Barack Obama's church, Donald Young, who allegedly knew about Obama and his homosexuality lifestyle was murdered in Chicago in his apartment. He was shot multiple times at close range, twice in the head. No signs of forced entry. The door was unlocked, but close, the neighbors said they didn't have a gunshot. All right. Fast forward, 2014, Joan Rivers, TMZ asked her on camera if the country was ready for the first gay president and what did she say? We already have one with

Obama and Michelle Obama's a transgender. Two weeks later, she dies on an operating table on a routine medical procedure. Fast forward. July 23, 2023, Obama's personal chef, Tafari Campbell, a self-proclaimed train swimmer was found dead at Martha's vineyard right by the Obama State. Allegedly, he was paddle boarding in eight feet of water any drown. He was found naked and his clothes were like a far distance away and we still, they won't let us know who he was paddle boarding with. Oh, and by the way, Michelle and Barack, initially they said that they weren't on the island. They were there and photo surface pat where Barack had a black eye, but nobody, nobody got into that situation. Broke back vineyard.

Exactly. Exactly. And lastly, just recently, old love letters from 1982 resurfaced that Barack wrote to his then college sweetheart, Alexandra McNair, and in one of those letters, he wrote, and I quote, in regard to homosexuality, I must say that I believe this is an attempt to remove oneself from the present a refusal perhaps to perpetrate

the endless fires of earthly life. You see, I make love to men daily in my imagination. He tells her this, and here's my thing, I can care less that if you're gay, if you're not, I don't care. But if you're holding, if you're not, I don't care. But if you're holding onto that secret and you've been lying to us all this time because technically, if this is all true, which I believe in, this guy, this guy has no, why is Larry

St. Clair? He's been saying this, Pat, mind you, since the early 80s, he wouldn't have been in front of watching to any told everybody. He's broke, he doesn't, he doesn't give a damn. If they're lying about that, what else are you like about? What about those emails that WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, with John Podesta and Hillary and all these guys were rocking them are talking about pizza pat.

Let's deliver $65,000 worth of pizza at one o'clock in the morning. And then they call us conspiracy theorists. Just be out with open, because guess what? Congratulations, you'd be the first gay president. Do it. Come out, say it. What?

What? Anyway. Anyway, you're like, you don't believe any of it. Anyway, I don't believe it. I believe that everyone should have the ability to speak. Nobody should be canceled. Including wild conspiracy theorists. Who's a conspiracy theorist? So canceled. Yes. Including wild conspiracy theorists. Who's a conspiracy?

I'm not. So all those things I listed are conspiracy. I'm just saying everyone is entitled to what they, you know, to their opinion. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I love that we have, you know, conspiracy theorists on the show. Who's the people? Who's the who's the conspired? We've had Alex Jones. We've had how much how much of his theories that you would say that there was that one thing that he kind of steered up.

So he just he can't mess up ever. No, but but but a lot of them are right. Some of them have been right. The water turns the frauds gay. Obviously, but then there was that one thing. Okay. All right. I cost him a billion dollars.

Yeah. But all right. So it seems like you're taking the stance that Obama is definitely getting. I would put, I would put all my money on the, he's one hundred. So what are the chances? You just said a hundred percent.

I would put all my money. So when they're smoke at him, this is fine. This is the problem that I have. I wouldn't really. I wouldn't put a hundred and I wouldn't put zero. Anytime that you're like, definitely 100%, there's no question. I'll put every amount of money on it.

Okay, let's just back up a second because we're talking about this guy, Larry Sinclair. So what you're saying is, we all of a sudden now believe a gay crack head Obama blowing drug dealer criminal. He's not a dealer. It wasn't a dealer drug user. He used it. My bad Vinnie.

I talk of dealing this, whatever. Who is a known Satanist? Okay, what's okay? Okay, go ahead. Allegedly. Allegedly conspiracy has been, who has a 27 year criminal history. Not 27? He's been in, now you're Larryson.

Larryson, the lawyer Vinnie. Did you watch the video last night? Did you watch the video, the whole Did you watch the video the whole hour? No, I'm not going to spend an hour on Larry's in play. I was studying the economy. I was studying the Trump. But that's the problem, Adam. You didn't you didn't you didn't see any of it.

That's true. I just you know what I did do. I did spend some time reviewing his rap sheet. So he spent time in jail in Colorado, South Carolina, Florida, Arizona. I did spend 16 years in jail. He's at 97 run-ins with the law. He has been arrested. Hold on, Vin.

16 years? No, he wasn't. He's been arrested for forgery, fraud, disorderly conduct, and larceny. By the way, there's now rumors saying that he's terminally ill. So he's going out with a bang. He's got nothing to lose. So listen, if you want to go on, I literally, I'm saying this with all sincerity, go there, all good.

Okay. I'm just inclined not to believe this guy. So, so wait, so here's my question Adam. If, let's just say, I saw something happen. Okay, just because I've been to jail, doesn't take away the fact. And I want you to explain something to me Adam. 97? How do you mean that? How do you mean that? How do you, how do you, how do you, how do you, smoke, you said there's smoke, there's fire, many more. Okay, well, well explain something to me, Adam. 97. How do you plan? How do you plan? You said there's smoke, there's fire, but anyway.

Okay, well here's the thing, Adam. How do you, how can that guy pass a lie detector test? I don't know if you've ever actually read about that. And allegedly, you can't choose the word allegedly. The polygraph test is what it's called came back as an indicated deception. So do some more research, find out what actually happened. He passed and signed in half of David Adam. Okay, don't say.

So all the, so all the, I don't have an agenda. I love your brother. You clearly have an agenda. No, I don't, I don't, I don't want to convince the world that Obama is gay. I just want to say, there's no indication of that. Okay, take a cold plunge. Okay, take one thing, don't forget your thing.

Patrick, if you had $10,000 cash right now and somebody said, you have to bet one way or the other, you can't take the money, whatever you win. Do you think Obama's gay or what? I would love to hear a pass answer. If you, hold on, because I love this smart, hold on. Can you do a dash some popcorn? By the way, I'm asking everybody this question. Tom, be ready for this.

Patrick, 10 grand, you are not leaving this room, unless you make a decision and if you win, you get to take the money and you go. You know what you just remind me. You've ever seen a movie couples retreat. Yeah, if a guy had a gun, it's this marriage gonna work out or no. No, tell me right now.

You don't put a gun to you. If you're therapists at first time. If you have jackass, if you had to guess, I want to go ahead. I don't know. I don't know. I will give you ratio. I won't give you a bet like that. 10 grand is not going to do anything.

But if I give you a percentage of these guys having this experience together, I don't know, 30%. I would say that. You're even that high, but. Yeah, 30% 30% but here. Hear me out. Hear me out on why I'm saying 30% is not actually that high. What's confusing for me is the following. Why are people on the left so worried if he's gay?

That's what I'm asking. Why are people on the left so like, what is wrong with being gay? Leftists? Huh? Mr. Democrats aren't you guys LGBTQ aren't you guys like what is wrong with being gay? I'm sorry. There's also a terrible public. Shouldn't, shouldn't, shouldn't Democrats come out and support of saying hell yeah, we got a gay president.

Congratulations. Why are you all of a sudden anti gay? Why are Democrats all of a sudden anti-gay? Why are Democrats all of a sudden so concerned about the president being gay? Everything you're doing in California with all the school and all the indoctrination, all you want, more people to be gay. So guess what, you finally have a guy,

that's, you know, stores are coming out saying that he may be, he may be just a guy. He's like a show of, yeah. I care, you gay? So, so, and then, you know, for the other part on, you know, stories, this is the part that's just, this is why, you know, for the other part on, you know, stories. This is the part that's just, this is why, you know, BMW and Mercedes are, you know, trying to compete with Tesla and all this stuff.

The left doesn't want to hear this story. If this person, the lady came out saying, rape is not about physical, rape is about thought. And Anderson Cooper's like, we gotta go to a story. I'm really enjoying this conversation. Let me get to straight. You will give that person the cycle lady. You'll give that person air time to interview them.

But you're not gonna be interviewing this guy. Got it. You already lost a lot of credibility with me. So you're full of shit. What is the difference between those two people? That person's got credibility. This person's got credibility. No, or you pick and choose your stories. You're not journalists

You are campaign managers for person you like that's party political party They lose credibility there with this guy. I watch them. Here's what he looked like I mean, I'm just gonna give you what my I watch entire interview by the way Just to kind of get a feel on whether I believe him or not like when I watch Karen make do go okay, and she said I'm convinced we loved each other. I don't know if you've seen the interview with Carameg Dougal. That's a supermodel playboy girl who allegedly had sex allegedly. Allegedly.

By the way, what did I say when Carameg Dougal come up? What was my relationship? I believed her. I said, yeah, I believe she loved him. And I actually believe she still loves him, okay? Because I'm going based on what I saw and my percentage on that one is like 70% Okay, where I saw that I'm saying on this one 30% I watch the guy and You know when you're running an insurance company or sales company with a bunch of sales guys Your job is to know which one of your salespeople are full of shit and which one's not No, I didn't sign that forgery. I would never do that.

Like yeah, bro, I don't believe you. Okay, I don't believe you. And you take the paper and you put it on top and you're like, no, this is definitely forgery, guys. I'm sorry, this guy's gonna lose his license. You screwed up, you shouldn't have done that. Oh my God, I was just afraid. I'll admit to it and I said, dude, I can't protect you now

because now the Department of Insurance got involved. And insurance carries got involved. They have you on freaking recording multiple times. What are you doing? Done, right? My job is to our job as compliance is to watch. Now it doesn't mean we get it a hundred percent. That's why there's investigation

on all this other stuff. I watch this guy, I mean, look, even if you're terminally ill, it's not this the first time he's coming out with the story. 25 years ago, 25 years ago. It's not the first time he came out with the story. In Washington.

Yeah, so he came out with the story years ago and he's coming out with the story. 25 years ago, 25 years ago, he came out with the story years ago and you know, he's coming out with it again. It's not like it's last minute. So even to say he's terminally ill, that's more of a reason to say you want your legacy to be, there lies the man that gave a president a blow job. Like is that your legacy? So what is it going to see on your tombstone, right? Cracking and blow jobs, right? That's your tombstone. Is that what you want to your legacy to be? Walking by, mom, who is this? What is a blow?

You're gonna have to kind of go through it. Yeah. So, no, I don't know. I think, you know, there's a part of it that's true. And to me, you know, I don't know a lot of presidents. I don't know a lot of men who, you know, accidentally call their wives a man's name two, three times. And I don't know, I don't know a lot of men who accidentally call their wives a man's name two, three times. And I don't know, I don't know a lot of people that make mistakes like that.

I just don't, you know, I've never called Jennifer Joe. I've never, I've never said, hey, you know, and Joe and I, you know, the other day, I've never done that. Do you have any white, who did Barack call Michael? He's called Mike. He said, he called it. He called it. But many times, many, many times he's called it Michael.

So you want him to begin. No, I don't. That's what I'm saying is I'm staying skeptical. I'm staying skeptical and to be quite frankly like the most pathetic thing to me is that Democrats are embarrassed if he's gay. Exactly. That tells you how much of a hypocrite you are that you're now defending against a person being gay, where to you it's normal to be gay.

Why do you care so much? That's the problem I have. I don't have a problem with all the other people. I have an issue here, guys. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And I'm just going to say something. I believe these stories just as much as I believe the story is about Donald Trump. Let me explain. So by the way, I'm not an Obama guy. When how often you hear me defend Obama, I said, I like Bill Clinton and I like Joe Manchin and I you voted for Obama, though. Yeah. So what does that mean?

Support your no-bama guy. No, we're not gonna play this game. It is not voting. You also voted for Obama. I am full for Obama. Okay. Okay, let me stick up for my man Vinny, though. They call him a conspiracy theory.

That's true. I'm a cool and mainstream media. They went over P tapes, mainstream. Stormy McDonald's, mainstream. Thank you. So my point is this, I'm skeptical as hell. when I hear, you know, Trump has a love affair with his daughter Ivanka. There's people like, oh, he probably bangs his daughter, I'm like, dude, this is not

a thing. Okay. Oh, he goes to these modeling competitions for girls who are under 18 and he like, no, I don't really think so. I do think that Trump has cheated on his wife umpteen times and has banged hot porn star chicks like Stormy Daniels and models like Karen McDougal actually think that's true, okay? But the point is not every story you hear is actually true.

That's your pushback. No, what I'm saying is this. I don't think that Democrats are basically being like, how dare you, I don't think. They are though, no, they are. No, no, no, I just think they're like, here's another ridiculous story that they want to push. And the guys married for the last 20 years.

No, that's kind of like, let me give the opposite. Let me give the opposite. Let me give the opposite argument. Let me give the complete opposite argument. This is kind of like a word comes out that run the sentence, run it for president. Rumor gets out. The first woman he had sex with is his wife Casey. He lost his virginity to Casey after being married and conservatives say, there's no way

that's true. The guy's a player. He's been around. He's a good looking guy. He's a Navy SEAL. He's a stud. Wait a minute. Hey, many of these Christian guys, you want your virginity and your Bible and all this other stuff. Why are you now saying no to this?

What happened to your virtue signal and being Christians? That's how pathetic this argument they're making is that they're embarrassed about some like this now. For me, my question isn't even this. Forget about the story. I don't wake up in the morning wondering if Barack Obama's gay or not. That's his wife's problem.

It's not my problem. They need to figure that part out. My concern is more deeper than that. Your name is Tucker Carlson. You got 5,000 people that you can interview that's gonna be interesting people to interview. What the hell are you doing interviewin' this guy? Thank you.

That was my next point. But actually go. Yeah, why? Go why? Why? Why are you doing it? That's a great. Are you doing it because like, let's go through all different angles. One, are you doing it to because, well, I've always wanted to do this in every Fox never let me do it. I'm putting it into, you know, Fox's face. Okay, cool. That could be a possibility. Check. I believe it. Two, are you doing it because I believe it. Two, are you doing it because you are on the inside and you have friends across media company everywhere.

A lot of people that may be were editors, maybe were insiders. Worked at Fox, not there at CNN, not there at MSNBC. And somebody saw a memo or a link or a story or a conference call or a meeting that leaked and the door wasn't fully closed. That said, hey, Michelle Obama's run for office. Okay. What happened? Nothing. I'm asking Rob to do a poll to see if our audience thinks Obama is gay.

I already did. I can tell you that we have over 2,000 votes. 77% of the audience believes that Barack Obama's smokecracken at gay sex. Now I know who we're working with. 70% percent chance. 70% chance. You're at 30%. I'm at 2%. I know who we're working with. Seven is good enough for a cent. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, yes, no, you always I'm a registered independent always voted for Democrat president your registered Democrat. No, you've always voted for Democratic president I may register to have you ever voted for Republican president. No, I don't hide around the bush. You never have you've always voted for left

So that's the part I'm a registered independent, but you can be I was gonna vote for fucking John McKean You can you can be I was gonna vote for fucking you registered anything. I'm an independent. You're a Democrat. You voted Democrat. You're an entire Republican. You're a Republican. You're a Republican. I have voted for Clinton. So that's your out. Absolutely.

I have voted for left and right. You have. No, no, because the position you take, the position you take, what's the position? Your position is like, I'm not going to play this. I'm not going to play this. Your political party. No. Your political party. No. Your political party that you voted for your entire life.

Yes. Your political party. Even though I'm a racist. That you have independent. Your political party that you have voted for, your entire life is embarrassed of this story of God forbid Brockobab being gay. And they're the same ones that push about people,

supporting LGBTQ, what's wrong with that? What's wrong with that? Barack Obama being gay, and they're the same ones that push about people, you know, supporting LGBTQ, what's wrong with that? That is absolutely insanely embarrassing from one perspective, okay, when I'm giving, and I'm being reasonable to you, saying you, Karen McDougal for me was 70%, I'm about 30% with this guy, not a 70%, I'm telling you I'm 30%. He's at 100 though. I am. That's his opinion.

That's his opinion. Where are you at? I'm at 2%. Okay I am. That's the opinion. That's the opinion. Where are you at? I'm at two percent. Okay, great. That's where you are. Okay, but let me go back. I have the judgment to say that it's time zero. The next time, if you want him to run a poll, text him.

Say, if you want to run a poll, I'm making a point while I'm saying with Tucker, you causing me to lose my train of thought. I'm in the middle of it here telling you right now. Number one is, why is he doing it? You got five thousand people to choose from. They can interview. So are you doing it because you want to put it back into Fox? Number two, are you doing it because you're worried Michelle Obama is running for right

now for office? Let me kind of put this out there. I don't know. Is it number three? Are you doing number three because Obama never gave you an interview and you're like, okay, you don't want to give me an interview. No problem. Here's what I'm going to do to you. I don't give a shit if I ever interview you.

Here's my vengeance back at you. Great. Number four, are you doing it because mainstream media covered everything on Russia collusion for three and a half years and smart guys like him believed it. And many other people believed that. That was actually happened until three and a half years later. Report comes that I would never happen. It was actually funded by Hillary Clinton.

I'll move on. Let's go to a different story. And we have to all follow, lead and move to the next story. Yeah, maybe that's why you're doing it. Because mainstream media was full of shit during COVID. And there's a couple people that lost a lot during COVID. One of them is mainstream media. They lost credibility. Never has the word fake news been used until COVID showed up

and Trump showed up and Russia showed up. And then people realized, you know the word fake news been used until COVID showed up and Trump showed up and Russia showed up and people realized, you know what this fake news think is real? Credibility of how much Americans believe the media is the lowest it's ever been. Not in the last 10 years, not in the last one. It's ever been in a history of America because they're full of shit

and the American people are sick of it. And you're starting to notice people are going to get their news from a freaking podcast. We're not journalists. We didn't go to Columbia University and be fed the same bullshit that everybody else was being fed. We're sitting here like regular people saying, why the hell are you lying to us so much? Are we supposed to believe all of this stuff is showing you only investigate the people

from one side and not the other side? Is that what we're supposed to sit here and believe? No. We also want to ask certain questions. I don't know why Tucker did this interview. This makes no sense to do this interview. Pass your question, man. Yeah, of course. Do you think this helps or hurts Tucker's credibility?

I don't think it helps. I don't think it helps. I'm a reason of a guy to tell you this. I don't think, I don't know. I don't like when Rob brought the story to me, and it says, Pat, it's gonna get a lot of eyeballs and we gotta do to something like, I don't know if I. I'm like, I don't know if I'm interested. Okay, I don't know if I'm interested.

And you remember, Rob, I said something like that to you if you remember this. I mean, you know, we're obviously throwing your job as to give different stories, right? And we've discussed similar things where it's personal lives that don't matter. Like the Dylan Danis thing, we've got a lot of interesting. And you said I'm not interested in doing that.

Another story I will say that only you and I know this were guys like, hey, this is what really happened to my relation. Do you know which one I'm talking? I'm not going to say the name, but you know exactly what I'm... I'm not interested, bro. I call the guy back. I'm not even going to talk about it. That's not my interest.

That's your problem between you and your wife. You guys go figure it out. Now, if you are making it so crazy that we have to frickin' touch it because you're putting it out there, then I'm mistakes on you. And situation like this, I don't know if I'm interested in this story. Is it entertaining, does it get eyeballs?

I'm really curious why you would do it. Can I speculate what? You can speculate, yeah, you can speculate. You hit the nail on the head, eyeballs. How much was Tucker Carlson's contract at Fox? A year. 40 million a year, was it? No, it's not.

It's like 20 million? 20 million, I'll say. How much is his contract at Twitter? He doesn't, he's not making any of that. Bingo. So, he's in the eyeball game before. Now, he's the number one, let's just say, talking head. I don't think that Tucker Carlson can be considered

a journalist at this point. I would say he's a pundit, right? Because a pundit, their job is to give opinions. This is not a factual story. This is an opinion story. This is a guy who at the very least can we agree that this guy may have some credibility issues

no i know i'm not saying gay on crack smoking felon you you went to you i'm not in your camp i'm not in your camp what i'm saying is this i think tucker is an absolute investigative journalist i think tucker is doing the right thing, interviewing this guy. I think others should have interviewed this guy 15 years ago during the election and talked to him about it after he did a lie detective test.

All I'm trying to find out is why you're doing it today. This should have been interviewed a long time. I think this is a miss in the job of the people of mainstream media that never wanted to talk to this guy because they were afraid of losing credibility and relationship with Obama, the person they all feared that they wanted Obama to invite him to their birthday party and their annual celebration or their inauguration, all that other stuff. There is a lot of clout and being in those types of meetings to say I got an invite from Obama.

Obama was a Ronald Reagan figure for the left. He was admired and loved by a lot of people on the left and most people fear losing something to a guy like this. So for me, yeah, I do think Tucker is an investigative journalist, much better than a lot of the guys on the left. I would give a, you know, I would put a couple guys on the left that I respect that are doing investigative journalism. And I would put Tucker on that list as well. My question isn't to lose credibility for that. I don't know why he's doing it.

Now, he may have a very valid reason for doing it. And by the way, it could also be a reason that's none of our business. He could also be doing it to say, who the hell are you for me to have to explain to why I'm doing it? I'm freaking doing it because I want to do it. And it's a private matter that I don't even want to tell the world about it, but I told myself I was going to do this when I was going to be free, and I'm doing it. Great.

More power to you. But on paper, I still don't know the motive behind doing it now. I think the I mean Pat, the great point where I had no idea, but maybe it was the maybe here or something about Michelle wanting to make a run that's going to, you know, put us back into crap because I mean, obviously the left isn't doing a good job. But think about it. When was Barack, well, first president term, when did he become away? Oh, wait, January. If they knew the truth and Sinclair was out and during that time and putting out these stories,

you think that's what you know they were covering up this path, you can't have. He's going to be the first black president and then all of a sudden, oh my God, he's gay as well. That's something where Americans are ready for that. Americans wanted, they still want, family, you know, father, wife, kids, it would have been way too much to put on a story like, hey, listen, he's the first black president. Oh, and by the way, he's gay

and just so happens that he's doing crack in the back of a freaking limo with somebody. Adam, I get where you're coming from and my point is I genuinely don't care, but when the story's out in your face, he's writing letters to his college girlfriend. This is before this whole situation that he got married saying, I imagine banging dudes in my head all the time all day. This is written Barack Obama, they have it at the college, Occidental College. It's a fact, okay? These are facts.

Everything that I said about Joan Rivers and Tufari and all this and all the letters and Brooke and the guy saying he blew, I'm sorry the truth if he is, I'm sorry, it hurts, it hurts people that he's gay. Oh well, congratulations, I think good for him. Well, we need a blue dress otherwise they'll never admit it. Yeah, blue boxers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we went a whole damn hour without bringing me into the show. I built, built, take it easy. It's built the night until the, you know, we were in a whole damn hour without bringing me into the ship. I built, built, take it easy. It's built the night it until the end. But Pat, Pat, you make a great point.

What? And I, you just woke me up. And while you were saying it, I was like, oh my god, even think about that. What is the motive? I, one of mine was like, did he run out of guests? Because think about it. Sometimes not all. No. No. No. Okay. Okay. So that's, that's one, the same option. Talk curve. When you get, whoever you are, there's certain people when you get an email from them.

You respond to that interview. There's certain people. Talkers on that top five list of people that when you get that email, you have to pay attention that's coming from you, which means what? Talk curve gets to interview. I would say 95% of people in the world, if he wanted to talk to them, they have to entertain it.

And he's got plenty of options to interview outside of this guy. I just don't know why he did it. Can I add one more thing? Just for our conspiracy friends out there. Cool, and so. You know, we've talked about alliances being made with obviously Tucker and Elon on Twitter, whatever the Trump thing is.

Do you know what Elon had to say about your friend, Mr. Sinclair? This is Elon Musk who might have a little bit more knowledge in this general subject than any of us. Okay. Here's what he said. Mr. Sinclair is not super convincing, picks or, and that's my ultimate point.

Anyone can just run with any ridiculous story, spat it out on any ridiculous podcast and just go with it. Pictures from the 80s. Yeah. Yeah. There were cameras back then. I don't know if you know that. But if Elon is saying this, I think that's fair to say that there's probably lacks credibility. Well, because he wants to see Tucker win. Well, 77% of the people that watch one of the dopest podcasts out business or whatever. I don't think that 77% Adam are just crazy conspiracy cougs. They feel it. I could look at it like I could look at Barack and like, yeah, I could see it.

There's a part. There's a part. There's a part of it. There's a part of it. There's a part of me as well that likes Elon saying this. There's also part of me that says he has to say this because he's not got a CEO of the company That's like Elon, what are we doing with this? You want me to get advertisers as a former NBC person? Linda, Yucario, you want me to get all this stuff and we're putting something like this and you're retweeting it

You have to comment that you're not fully in it. There's a lot of ways to look at this angle on you know Linda could have told them I'm about to sign a half a billion dollar advertising deal with, you know, 20 different companies. What are we doing here, Elon? You're not making me my job, he's trying to hit my bonus. Those kinds of conversations take place as well. I just want to know, since Tucker's no longer with Fox,

he's basically doing whatever he wants, you know, is, do you think he's like the white two-pock? Is he the white two-pock? Wait, last case, I, I, I, I think he's absolutely gangster and I think he's piss on a lot of people off. And I think, yeah, hard it is right now to be John Stewart. Can you go to the clip of John Stewart where he played the, you know, which one I'm talking about?

Rob, I don't know if you found it or not. Just put John Stewart on Tucker. John Stewart and then put Tucker. Stewart Tucker. Yeah. Uh, there's a, it just came out yesterday. I want to say with John Stewart saying what he said Go no not that one go a little lower He just recently said something about Tucker. Can you go a little faster? Go a little faster to see if it's out there

Oh, no, okay, no problem, but Tucker said Tucker called him evil. I mean, I'm sorry John Stewart called the Tucker evil evil He says his evil. He knows what he's doing et cetera et cetera and in a situation like that's the one right there If you can play that one, yeah, go for it. Just make it bigger and audio, go for it. But to your point though, about like a guy like Tucker Carlson, like that cynical, what he does is cynical. Starts with cynical. And he hides the true motivation for it.

And that's what I mean by the difference between well-intentioned, honest, brokering and cynical manipulation. I definitely put him on the evil side. I wasn't going to speak for you, but for me, I put him in the... No question. I feel like he knows exactly what he's doing and saying.

No question. I don't feel like he's ignorant about his messaging and his coding. No, no, no. No, it's all purposeful. And it's marshalling very, very malevolent forces. Yes. No question. But the marsh, very malevolent forces. Yes, no question. But the marshalling very malevolent forces. Like let's just say using the DOJ against your opponent,

like malevolent forces, like using the entire mainstream media to attack an opponent and make the entire country believe Russia collusion was real. And here's what's crazy. I'm a fan of this guy. I like John Stewart. Okay. And I also happen to like. I'm a fan of this guy. I like John Stewart, okay? And I also happen to like Tucker. I like both of these guys. And I love the fact that 20 years ago,

John went on Tucker's show trying to bully him. And he leaves. This is when Tucker had a bow tie. It's right below a drive if you can see him. When he had a bow tie on right there, and he's like, this is just awful, right? This show right there on rapid fire, and he's going through it.

I'm not, we don't have to play the whole thing. I love the fact that Tucker got his redemption because John Stewart today is at a lower level than Bill Mar. I think Bill Mar is kicking John Stewart's ass and people actually from both the left and the right like hearing Bill Mar and quite frankly, I don't know who wants to hear from John Stewart on the right except for a few people. John sounds more like somebody that's just defending his political party to be invited to the parties.

And Bill Mar is saying, F, all of you. Okay, I don't, I think all of you are full of shit. You know, just the other day, Bill Mar talked shit about Trump on Rogan. Oh, the whole thing. And then he goes and talks about, talks shit about Biden about you. I'm sitting there saying, good for you, Bill.

Good for you. I want to kind of hear what you got to say. But anyways, because that's what I think Bill Mar has more credibility than any of those names you just mentioned. Because he's willing, Bill. Good for you. I want to kind of hear what you got to say, but anyways. That's why I think Bill Mar has more credibility than any of those names you just mentioned. Because he's willing to call out ready for it, both sides. If you just want to play your, you know, I'm on this side, so this is what I'm defending, or I'm on this side is some defending, I don't think that's a true honest broker.

But that Tucker story was the biggest comeback story in media. Oh, huge. It canceled his show, John Stewart, just everyone mocked him and then 20 years later, your real life. Great story, good for him. Good for him. Coming out this show. John Stewart just everyone mocked him and then 20 years later. Great story. Good for him. Coming out and then boom. He's runs a number on show for God knows how many years. Okay. So that's that part. Next story we can go to is Elon Musk's dad says he's worried the Tesla CEO might be assassinated following a report about his influence on government decisions.

Okay. So let's let's take a look at this here. Uh-uh. And this is an insider story. Yes, response, Errol Musk, when asked if he fears a potential assassination of a son, Elon Musk, by the shadow government, stemming from a New Yorker article

which he labels a hit job, asked for the son interview, the New Yorker article, Portrae's Elon Musk, as an unelected official, prompting Pentagon officials to express unease over his attitude towards Vladimir Putin and acknowledging SpaceX's starlink

a satellite's critical role in Ukrainian conflict. Elon Musk's personal security concerns are evident as he shares how his son's car faced a crazy stalker situation and his actions such as requesting an office bathroom and restricting journalists who shared an account track in his private jet reflect in this complex relationship with safety measures so

uh... what are your thoughts on this relationship between you on an is that what is that a scene about about it on safety he and his dad are strained i think everybody's read various comments about it you know he's terrible human being. Those are pretty heavy words between a father and son. And I think right now he's out there saying, I'm worried this guy might be assassinated. And I also think what's going on is we've had some very light news cycles.

And so you pull this up and his dad makes some comment like that. And I think, you know, do I think there's a real risk there perhaps? Do I think his dad's worried about it because he sees his son really being a lightning rod here? Absolutely. I think his dad, I think his dad believes, hey, man, you're, you're touching government, you're touching, you know, very heavy figures and you're demanding, you know, this and that. You know, I'm a little worried that maybe somebody might be upset enough about this to pop in. Are you following the ADL story with the Mosk or no?

Lightly, I understand. You pull up that story with Forbes, the anti-deformation league. Oh, my ad revenue has been manipulated because ADL's been out there pulling threads. And Tom, Tom, let's not forget to, then the day, Pat, Elon Musk spent how much money to buy X?

40 billion. 40 billion dollars to be like the free speech king. Because at the end of the day, Pat, because of him, and this wasn't, by the way, obviously the FBI, why everybody was involved in embedded inside the Twitter, especially during the election, he's given us the opportunity now on Twitter that we can see and hear everything. Okay, we see it. We can fact check it and add it. We do what we just did and we debate and everybody can have their opinion, but it's all out there. The truth though, the fact that we can find out the truth for ourselves makes him an enemy of the elite. He is giving us the platform to do exactly what the hell we did, Pat. And from watching the people on the ground in Maui,

talk about what's really happening. I'm saying, to listen to Larry Sinclair, credible or not, whatever you want to say, to the January 6th Twitter files, where it was the January 6th guided tour. It was an insurrection. All the shit that they lied to us about, we get to see it.

And Pat, I'm telling you right now, if there was a list of accidental, let's get this guy, Elon would be on top of that list right now because he's giving us the opportunity to see all the fake shit about COVID, to see all the shit. And like, just let's put it on the table. Let us look at it and figure it out before that path. Would you have ever have known all the shit about Twitter or Hunter Biden or the Latin none of that, none of that time because the White House, the FBI were going to Twitter and they were putting agents there to say, don't put the story out, do this, do that, do that.

So I 100% think that he's on that list. No, the modern mint does not want an open platform. So Musk blames anti-defamation leak for ex's poor ad sales threatens lawsuit. Go a little lower. Elon Musk's US ad revenue for ex formerly known as Twitter was down 60% in a series of tweets Monday and blended on critical statements from the anti-deformation league going

so far as to threaten a lawsuit against a group or lower. Musk said the advertisers have told the company they're receiving pressure from a deal. A Jewish non-governmental organization that seeks to fight anti-Semitism and extremism around the world to not advertise on X. He went to say, if this continues, we will have no choice but to follow defamation suit against ironically the anti-deformation league. This comes after a deal released multiple reports saying anti-Semitic reports posts have spiked on X

since Musk's purchased the platform, unblocked a number of users who had previously been kicked off the site for violating hate speech loosened the platform's consent content moderation policy. I mean you can't blame the guy for being upset about it. This is canceling by any other word If you can't control can't get them to be quiet you try to cancel them and if the ADL doesn't like what certain people are saying whether those people are truly extremist and truly saying things against Jewish people, which I hate to see, but there's a hyper reaction here,

and they can't control X, so they want to influence others who can cause control through cancellation and boycats. Yeah, I don't believe in any sort of cancellation, even though I'm Jewish, I believe in free speech. I'm a free speech absolutist to an extent. I actually believe you should shine a light on the people that are saying racist, anti-Semitic, bigoted comments.

Let's see who they are. Let's see, I want to see a picture of their face. I actually want to know where they live. Let's see where they work. Highlight the hell out of these guys. Don't stop them. Let's see what's going on. Let's talk to the hell out of these guys.

So yeah, I totally understand why someone like Elon would want to push back against the ADL. A lot of people do. But this is literally their job is to go after people they feel like are defaming minorities or certain types of people. But back to the Elon thing, him and his father about a very strange relationship over the years.

So, I actually don't know how much communication they even have. So you said it's maybe a light news week, so they're just looking for anything to kind of drum up. But pure speculation, and I'm sure Elon's got it covered. Actually, the most famous text that Elon and his father had, this was a year ago, was when he texted his dad, just keep quiet. The press is playing you like a fiddle,

don't say anything anymore, keep quiet. So he's basically saying, Dad, pump the brakes, guys. So it didn't seem like his father listened to us. Let's go to this next story. The Immortals meet the billionaires forking out for eternal life. And this is a guardian story. So let's see what guardian has to say about this.

Tech entrepreneur, Brian Johnson, who spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on youthful plasma transfusions, chairs his experience, I've never paid more attention to what he's eating because that was going into my, I've never paid more attention to what I'm eating because that was going into my body. He continues to invest $2 million annually in longevity research, Professor Michael and Irina Kanboy discussed their groundbreaking research in which they stitched together the bodies of old and young mice

to rejuvenate the older mice's blood. in research in which they stitched together the bodies of old and young mice to rejuvenate the older mice's blood. They anticipate significant advancement in prolonging life treatments, such as pills and a fountain of middle age in an X-five years. The podcast explores the involvement of billionaires like Jeff Bezos and Peter Thiel and longevity research

and raises moral concerns about the potential exclusion of certain groups. Interesting, Vinnie. So, well, first of all, listen, I don't care anybody says, you're not going to cheat death. We all have something in common. Male, female, tall, straight gay. We all have an expiration date.

This guy, though, passed 45 years old. He sold his company, PIGTEC, $800 million. He recruited his 17 year old son and his 70 year old dad to join him in a tried generational blood exchange, all right. In April, they visited resurgence wellness. It's a futuristic medical spinal cord in Texas. The son got a leader of his blood removed about fit of his body, fit of the blood of his

body and separated into parts before the plasma was re-infused into his father. All right. Now Brian, the guy in question, then donated a leader of his blood products to a seven-year old father and nobody donated, gave blood back to the son. So the son is, I should not have luck. So the son is basically Tom Hardy in Mad Maxx when he's the blood bank, he's just sitting there and they got the blood. Blood bank. Yeah, blood bank.

So, like, he has 30 nutritionists, MRI specialists. He gives blood stool samples of all of his, or all day they're monitoring this guy. He even does penis. You might want to look into this guy's, just pay attention. Penis rejuvenation. So he's erect for three and a half hours a night.

Oh, Jesus. He does. Tom, I know. He beat your record. He does, Tom, he does shot wave therapy three times a week in the hopes of gaining teenage like erections. He even monitors and keeps track like he has a journal. He's like, oh, I got a heart on and he writes it.

But it's like, Pat, at this point, you're trying to cheat death. It's like live your life the way you are. Unless Adam, you feel me more like, in if you take care of yourself for right now, but 30 people around the clock working to make you listen, I think it's safe to say if you're drawing blood out of your son and taking some of your dad's platelets shoving in you giving some back to dad, it's it's it's going overboard. You got to chill out. Would you happen to have his phone apparently? His bill back in the studio. But yeah, Tom, what do you think, Kevin?

I think once it's your time, bro, it's like, yeah, we have to go away. So the next generation has a chance. It's just be here forever, but stitching your body to somebody else is just a little too far. Tom, would you want to live forever? I think we've talked about this. Would you want to live forever? You know, I've seen really, really elderly relatives go quietly and I've had a 93-year-old grandmother, my mom's dad.

The grandparent I was close to. And when it was time for him to go, he was not really the tap out, but he was so peaceful. And as he had aged, he had things that were catching up with him. He didn't have cancer, it didn't go through some long thing, but he was 93 years old, and the body was really worn out. He worked as a machinist,

so he had arthritis and his wrist and his hands and everything. And he's like, you know what? I've seen a lot of family grow up, I've seen a lot of things, and I'm ready for the step to the white tunnel and go meet God. And I look at it like that and I'm like, I say, do I want to be as healthy as I can be and as productive as I can as long as possible? Yes. I don't know if I have any desire to live 200 years.

But I want to be as healthy as I can. It would be an ideal age. Like if God's listening right now watching this podcast, he's probably not watching today's podcast because he's pissed, but if he's watching today's podcast, what age would you wanna live to? I think I know my body and I know my status and I think I'm good for 105.

105, 12, five, 12, five, 12, five, 12. What are you filming? So you've got 20 more years. You know my mom. You know, I actually agree. I actually agree. I think I'm a five. I think you're 100 is a great number to aspire to be.

Yeah, but I don't want to look at a white walker from Game of Thrones. Like I've seen some people where it's like, bro, you should have been going. You're going to be all right. You don't have to worry about your looks, bro. You're a good looking guy. I paint my back.

Bro, we got the freaking water. You're going to get in it every day at 89 years old. Would you live for it? Would you want to live for it? Hell no. No, wait. Do you think that would sap your motivation? No, wait.

Probably. I can't even imagine the pains of, no, no way. Adam, you? No way. I want to go to 100. I tell my mom, my grandma's 92. I said, I need you to 100. Grandma, I need to take care of yourself. Look at my mom is 70. I want her go to a hundred I tell my mom my grandma's 92 I said I need you to a hundred grandma I need to take care of my mom is 70 I want her taking care of herself

I think you got this one life I think you need to make the most of it and what I will say this about this hundred will be cool this billionaire Whatever he is yeah, Brian John I would much rather bio hack life health is wealth and spend hundreds of thousand dollars on this Then get your third rolls Roy Roy so your second house somewhere. It's like, at this point, that's probably the best investment you can make rather than some material item. And by the way, you have to know at that point,

that's exactly what they're doing. You didn't gain, once you have money, like no one gives a shit what you drive when you have money. When you actually have real money, and I'm not talking like, you know, I'm talking, these guys are billionaires. It's called fuck you. It's like, when you pull it up to a guy that's got a massive house, you're

not like, so what do you drive in this $40 million home? They're like, I don't even shit if you pull up in an avalanche. I have this one friend. I haven't driven in five years. I have this one friend that's worth a ton of money. He's, he's gone on the record basically saying that, you know, 150 million, eight, what it used to be. But this guy is my own hacking life and doing ice baths for funds.

And he's fired up allegedly. You can't take it. What a frickin' nest. Do you want to see the first reaction when I got into water? Because I don't want to give it to Rob. It's going to take us a minute to do it. But man, this experience today was insane when I did this. I can't wait to go back and do it again tonight.

It's so weird. It's like a new toy I got. I'd rather you get that than another car or another watch. Do you think I want a, like, the reason why I love what I drive right now is because I can sit in it. We went to lunch yesterday. Well, man, he's in the car. He's in the car. I'm comfortable.

The other stuff that the red car I have, I can't fit in. I know it's not going to work out. So I'm with you. So, okay, all right, so let's go to, which one do we wanna go to now? How about the pow boys? You wanna go to the pow boys? Yeah, we gotta go to the pow boys. And Rique Tadio, former pow boys leader,

sent sentence to 22 years in prison, a Wall Street Journal story. Wall Street Journal story. Let's go through this here. That's a former prop voice leader in Ricky's 22-year sentence, the longest in over a thousand cases related to January 6, 2021 capital assault, after being convicted of sedacious conspiracy, a charge related to efforts to use force to overthrow the government and beat its law or seize its property. Prosecutors initially sought a 33-year sentence for

Tariya but cited as leadership role. And the proud boys involvement in the attack when recommending who punishment, while the US district court judge Timothy Kelly expressed discomfort, likening the events to terrorism, Tariya, who did not enter the Capitol himself. Apologize for his role and instigating the events while his defense team argued for a 15 year sentence saying my client is no terrorist my client

is misguided patriot wait he never went in he's getting to that's the key he never even went inside there so it's getting further and further from the supposed insurrectionist the rioters the terrorists he wasn't in there he. He's not a white supremacist. Joe Biden's quick to call Proud Boys a white supremacy group. His name is Enrique Tarrio. He's an Afro-Hispanic gentleman, and he's going to lose his whole 40s. He's going to be in prison from 39 to 51 if he gets out early. What do you think Decenton should be?

Well, let's look at this. Does he have a prior record? Has he done anything wrong in the past? Because, you know, the whole thing with Biden is we got to give people second, third and fourth chance if it's someone on the left. But if it's someone on the right, oh, give him life he wasn't even there.

And 22 years, I think. That's where you should get two years. And I think you should get two years. I think you should get two years. I walk off for free. No, no, not what should it be. Well, first of all, I did, because I'm going to be honest, I didn't dive in and find out all,

because I mean, the guy was that his house, I don't know, he playing or orchestrated. My question is, do you guys remember that group pat, you guys might have remembered Antifa during the entire Trump presidency, during the George Floyd riots? These people who are out there. He's the protest protesters, right? God.

He's a protest that funded by George Stores Pat. They caused absolute mayhem in this country. They caused violence. They killed people. They burned down cities. They did all this shit. And guess what? When they got arrested, guess who bailed them out?

Hollywood elites, Kamala Harris, everybody's like, hey, we got to help these people. Get them out. Yeah, everybody, yeah, then they helped them out. So however soon they got out, that's how quickly and reek it. Yeah, exactly. And guess what? On this January 6th, this insurrection quotation marks that nobody died. Nobody got nobody.

Nobody about nobody. Go to liberty. Safe to get their gun. Exactly. But here's my thing. I think Adam, I think a fair thing would be, you know, if he did really, really in sight violence, like the Ray Epps, the guy, the FBI, that we're like, everybody, go in, those people should be in prison. Then he takes all those guys and part no longer.

Answer the question then, how long should he go to jail for? I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, three months plus probation. Okay, because let me just, you read the articles in front of your face. Yeah. They were, they were trying, number one, I don't really give a shit about this guy. We actually had the opportunity to bring him on the podcast. We said no. The podcast is like,

2021, he had, Pat's credit, he's like, nah. Yeah. You know, we don't go down that far right rabbit hole, proud boy thing, but I will say this, the prosecutors sought a 33 year sentence, but what did his defense, but what did his defense

want, what did his defense ask for? A bargaining chip. For how much? How many years? Fifteen years. Fifteen years. So his defense, his defense attorney said at the very least give him 15 years. They settled, they split the difference of 22 years.

So I'm just looking at it as defense is basically saying, basically his defense is basically saying, you're going to jail, buddy. Yeah, I'm going to at it with defenses basically saying basically his defense is basically saying you're going to jail, buddy Yeah, obviously happen for a while. So this this whole thing by the way by the way good point Okay, that even his defense is saying 15 years not saying nothing but also good point on you if he's got to go Abs has got to go If they both go on the same cell for 15 years now you you're going to say fair. But oh, Eps gets off. Why? He's saying get into, get into, get into capital, get into capital.

And there's videos. Eps has got to be inmate. I agree. Roommates with this guy. Well, we can sit there and say you're being reasonable. I will say this guy Ray. Eps should be charged with something. But what he is not charged, should not be charged with is this seditious conspiracy.

But this is my speculation. I haven't read into this all that much, charged with is this seditious conspiracy. But this is my speculation. I haven't read into this all that much, but I know what a seditious conspiracy is. He'd even go in the Capitol. It's kind of like he was the party promoter. He promoted the party. He's called he sent out flyers. He advertised the hell out of it. That's but he just didn't go to the pattern.

That's called inciting a riot. That's called and that's called inciting an insurrection. He's telling all these young, he's pushing the gates and pushing them to go in. He deserves to, if that's... I'm not talking about Epsom, I'm talking about why Enrique Tari was going to jail. He was the big party promoter of the,

and I'm not even on your page. I'm on your page. Yeah, I don't think it was an insurrection. I, I love you. I think it was a rebellion. Yeah. I think it was a shitcho. I'm not on the insurrection label. I get that people are calling in.

You think they're absolutely, I don't think these proud boys were actually going to take over the government. I agree. I actually think a lot of them actually do love America. Yeah. Have you guys met any of the proud boys? Have you ever had an interaction with them? I did a comedy show in North Hollywood, California.

Guys with a bunch of polo shirts after the show. You're funny. I go, what's going on with the polo? I was like, oh, you don't know, we're the proud boys. I go, what do you guys do? Well, Antifa's been beating up old ladies and Christians walking to the Trump rallies. So we're showing up now and we're kind of giving them the business if they mess with us.

I said, that sounds almost noble. Like kind of like a counter force. And they say, you want to join? I said, no, thanks. And by the way, most of the, we're going to go burst into the cross. You would have been brought to that. Yeah, I wouldn't be here.

I'd be with a Tariya, but they were all, by the way, black guys, so not even the white guys. Wait, wait, so wait, their white supremacist black guys, that doesn't make sense. I mean, for my black, I know, it didn't make sense. Rob, what were you, what about the say, son? To corroborate what K von said, my mom was not on the cap, but she was in, oh shit. She was in Washington, DC. She tried to occur alert, Rob. Vance had my mom was not on the Capitol, but she was in Oh, shit.

She was in Washington, DC. I heard, right? Yes. She was on the Capitol, but the proud boys were providing security to the older ladies. My mom's in her 70s. They were guiding her around the

same like badass boy scouts. And when a little guy jumps out of the bushes with tight black pants and throws an egg, they would just go put them in the hospital. Yeah, there's groups called the Guardian Angels with red shirts that go back like in the 80s, with all this.

And, you know, I look at it this way. I'm not in the courtroom here, but if these, if he gets 22 years, then the three people that organize the Kavanaugh riot and protest, don't they get to something? You remember this? The Justice Kavanaugh riot? They did the same thing, broke through the doors, came inside, pushed the cops around. and protests. Don't they get to something? You remember this? The Justice Cavanaugh riot? They did the same thing. Broke through the doors, came inside, pushed the cops around.

And then I'm looking at it and saying, what is the difference here? Why don't those people get two years for inciting a riot and breaking through the doors and trying to make this protest? And then these guys get 22 years. I'm still troubled by the selective prosecution here. Well, we'll say this, that one of the things you have to love about America is your

ability to protest or even ride a 64 people arrested during the protests for crowding obstructing or in common. They broke doors. They came in there. They had, look, tell me what the difference is. Tell me what the differences when these guys broke through the Kavanaugh. tell me what the difference is. Tell me what the differences when these guys broke through the cabinet. They came right. You know, you know, like as a registered Democrat, that's why. And they're fine. Okay, you get 22 years. Why don't these guys? I'm looking at. I don't even remember this. But are you saying that this is comparable to

January? They stopped the hearing. They stopped the hearing. No, they came in. I want to see what he's talking about. This is comparable to January 6th. This in a way, once it breaks free here, I'm saying, I'm saying, this guy gets 22. Why do these people not get to? It's a fair question. Okay. It's a fair question on what time is saying? So let's do one last story and then we'll wrap up. The US government is investing 22 million dollars into developing surveillance clothing that includes shirts, pants, and underwear that can record video and audio. The US government has invented a $20 million smart electricity, powered and network textile systems called Smart E-Pants program, aiming to create wearable clothing capable of

recording audio video and geolocation data, the programs goal is to produce washable garments, including shirts, pants, socks, and underwear with advancedocation data, the program's goal is to produce washable garments, including shirts, pants, socks, and underwear, with advanced surveillance capabilities. The office of the director of intelligence states that smart e-pants represent significant investment and develop an active smart textiles. Dr. Dawson Kegold, the program manager for smart e-pants highlighted the potential benefits for government agencies like the Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security and intelligence Community. He notes that wearable technologies could enhance situational awareness by allowing users to keep their hands free and high stress

environment. Dr. Kagle. Dr. Kagle. That's hilarious. Is that how you turn it on? You do it quick. Can you imagine that? That's going to be the future, APA.

I have to tell you a secret. Like, I can't, I underwear her listening. It's like, well, think about it. They're trying to make Pat. This is a brand that made this a good point on my show yesterday. The Vincenzo Chana Show Wednesdays. Shout out to Brandon. Yeah, shout out to Brandon.

They're making surveillance cool. They're making it stylish. Just like with Facebook, do you remember during the Obama? They were like, Obama's, or it's our privacy. Nobody's fighting. We don't want them to know shit about. I don't know where I don't want you to Follow me or all of a sudden Facebook comes out and you're willingly telling them where you eat who you hang out with what your Style is what concerts you watch like the CIA must Worship Mark Zuckerberg because they made it what difference a decade make exactly time now. It's cool now with my privacy I can't believe you're doing this and then it's like okay now. It's like you're not on Facebook number one

Let's go Brandon congrats for you, but the job Brandon number two Where was this technology when Larry's and Claire was No photos sorry Sorry, As Obama was bopping down Larry Sinclair. Adam. God never mind if you had those pants technology. I'll say let's go. Kavan really great to have you. Thank you.

Kavan congratulations. Well, you got to have two more vaults. Yes. We're not playing game. Kavan congratulations on being on the podcast. And congratulations on being the news member of the proud boys. That's great. Yeah. Congratulations. Yeah. Nice.

Yank, I hope go up for it. Yeah. Nice. Yang, I hope you have a great weekend. We are about to announce four of our next lives. Wow. You get to pick and choose which one you want to go. It's going to be a lot of different kind of lives. Text award podcast to 310-340-1132. Text award podcast to 310-340-1132 to be one

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