PBD Podcast - Home Team | PBD Podcast | Ep. 324

Episode Date: November 9, 2023

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Starting point is 00:01:28 Oh, your story, okay. Sorry about that. Today's the GOP debate going on in the afternoon. So we're going to make a couple of predictions about today's debate going on, which we may or we may not be there. Who knows? It's in the state of Florida and there's some controversy going on with some stuff, you know, some topics.
Starting point is 00:01:43 We may or may not show up or we may show up deep. We may not who knows. We'll see what's gonna happen. We got a lot of stories to cover. Let me kind of give you a couple of things we got going on here. 401K's, hardship withdrawals are surging as high inflation squeezes Americans. How's it going?
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Starting point is 00:05:54 The link's going to be below. Let's get into our first story. And that's none other than the great Joseph Rogan. Okay, Joe Rogan holds all the cards as his Spotify podcasting deal is set to expire. Page 8 if you want to go to Bobo Yang. If you're listening to this and some of you guys are asking for the notes very soon, we will be able to give you the notes, what you need to do is text award podcast to 310-340-1132.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Again, text award podcast to 310-, 3,40, 1,132 to be able to follow us with the notes that we had and we're gonna create a bunch of other things, but I'll release that once we're ready. Again, Joe Rogan holds all the cards as a Spotify podcasting deal is set to expire. The host of the widely followed Joe Rogan experience podcast is considered
Starting point is 00:06:38 considering his options as his exclusive licensing deal with Spotify, which pay to may report a 200 million dollars in 2020 Nears its end year Next year industry experts acknowledge Rogan's advantageous position with Richard Kramer of a research stating if you do keep him Spotify will be locked into paying Rogan as much or more than before at a time when they need to contain cause if you don't keep him Then it's really tough because your biggest property and source of sales
Starting point is 00:07:08 within the ad business walks. Rogan has several potential pants, forward including the establishment of his on media company to distribute the podcast and create additional content for his dedicated audience. Another option involves collaboration with his friend, Leila Musk, who acquired the social media platform X for $44 billion.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Tom, what do you think Rogan will be doing? Well, I break this down in three ways. The first way I break it down is the logic that says Spotify has to do it. They're in the same position that Sirius was in for the renewal of Howard Stern back in the day. There are so many subscribers that are there, you know, with Rogan, for Rogan,
Starting point is 00:07:45 and the exclusive access to them. So I think it has it. The second of all, I think some of these, like the New York Post, I think that's an armchair quarterback. They need to look down the street to the Wall Street Journal. Wall Street Journal pointed out that Spotify had a good quarter after the layoffs early in the year, and after they didn't renew the abomas. And they're that unusual name of their, I figured with the name of their production company was that unusual name and they didn't, you know, Megan and Prince Harry. And Kardashians.
Starting point is 00:08:15 They didn't really know those three big names. So they didn't do those and they had some layoffs and they consolidated what they were doing on anchor, which is their podcast service grow. So it looks like they've been preparing to have a profitable future. And according to journal and what they just announced, they had a good Q3. So could it be that they are setting themselves up to not only be profitable going forward, but be more efficient and maybe bet on fewer, bigger and none bigger than Joe Rogan? I think they reassign them and I think they're getting ready for it.
Starting point is 00:08:45 So you think they're going to pick it up? Okay. So what do you think that number's going to be? I think the number's going to be, you know, two ex, you know, over 10 years, what they had him the first time. Two ex over 10 years. Yep. Do you know what two ex over 10 years is?
Starting point is 00:08:59 Isn't the billion dollars. It's a billion out of contract. Yeah. Is he worth a billion dollars? There's no question about it. No question. No question a billion out of contract. Yeah. Is he worth a billion dollars? There's no question about it. There's no question about it. No question about it.
Starting point is 00:09:07 And Pat, as a minority owner of the Yankees, can I ask you, what are the Dodgers and the Yankees doing for the last year and a half with their rosters getting ready for a guy name of Connie? Yep. You got, listen, guys like that don't come, you know, cross on a free agency all the time. When they do, you got to be ready for it. And for a company like Spotify, you've already trained people to go there, right?
Starting point is 00:09:30 You've already trained people to go see Joe over there and they're okay with Joe putting his clips on YouTube and it pushes it back to it. So probably, I kinda saw the other day Joe did the Musk interview and I don't know if you saw how they did it. They put the first two hours on X and Joe uploaded it directly on X.
Starting point is 00:09:46 And the last 45 minutes, you could only get on Spotify. So that was already maybe an arrangement he may be making with Spotify to say, hey, what if we do this with X? So he gets to pick and choose what he wants to do. He gets to pick and, if I'm Spotify, it's gonna be tough for me to agree to allow you to put two hours of the first two hours of the content
Starting point is 00:10:05 on X, maybe I do an hour, and the other two hours goes on Spotify. The good news with Joe's podcast is typically three hour podcast, two and a half, two to three and a half hour podcast. That could be the case, but here's the way people have to look at Joe. Joe's not a talent.
Starting point is 00:10:19 People think Joe's a talent. You know that one song where Jay-Z says, I'm not a business man. I'm not a business says, I'm not a business man. I'm not a business man. I'm not a business man. I'm a business man. Joe Rogan is a business man. Man.
Starting point is 00:10:33 And I think Joe, with the friends he has around him, he's starting to realize that that brand, that trusted brand is officially a company, okay? And I think, and I said this in the last video I made, when they gave them $200 million, I said it was a massive victory for Spotify. I think they saved $800 million. I think Joe's a billionaire guy.
Starting point is 00:10:54 And if I was Musk, I don't have Musk's tap on money, but if I had Musk's tap on money right now, Joe would be the first person I'd be calling and saying, hey Joe, here's what I'm thinking. I'll give a billion over 20 years and equity on the back end, let's roll. If you do more, here's what we'll do. If we do this, boom, here's what we'm thinking. I'll give a billion over 20 years and equity on the back end. Let's roll. If you do more, here's what we'll do.
Starting point is 00:11:07 If we do this, boom, here's what we're gonna do. But I'm gonna give a billion dollar contract over 20 years. Then we negotiate. He may come back and say, well, why would I do that? If I'm already getting this, I would do billion over 10. Great.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Then there's the conversation. But I think Musk, if he lacks in a name that big, you have to know that Twitter's going in a direction to want to get talent like that. You got Tucker, you got Joe, you got a dream team there. You got a super team they're going on on X. That's a very scary situation to have them. By the way, you know what?
Starting point is 00:11:36 There's a big difference between Joe and Tucker. Tucker just raised, I don't know what he raised, $150 million to go build a media company or a media company valued at $150 million. Can you look at that? Rob, to see how much money Tucker raised. I know the number is $150 million to go build a media company or a media company valued at $150 million. Can you look at that, Rob, to see how much money Tucker raised. I know the number is $150 million. So if you type in Tucker Carlson, $150 million, the article will come up.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Is it $15 million? He raises $15 million for a new media company at $150 million of valuation. Okay, so Tucker wants to build a media company. Do I think Joe wants to build a media company? I don't know about that. I do know a handful of other companies, a couple of them I've spoken to
Starting point is 00:12:09 that will be making offers to them as well. And Joe's in charge here. He gets to choose what he wants to do. I think this days, when we spent that time with Joe, when you did his, the second time you did his podcast, that was earlier this summer, I wanna say July, give her a take. I learned a few things about Joe.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Number one being, he's a very loyal guy. The way that he kinda keeps his circle close, especially with the comedians, especially with the security detail it's around him. He keeps the same guys around him. He's very protective of these guys. You know, he made a comment to you about his relationship with Spotify.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Basically, he said, listen, I'm number one in 91 countries. It would be very different if I was number 91 in one country. So I think he understands where he has, or is that in the lay of the land? He's the number one podcast in the world, you know, for the majority of countries. And I think he spoke very highly of the CEO founder of Spotify, Daniel Eck.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I think from what I can tell, they have a very good relationship. Whether he gives them the hometown discount, like one of LeBron, resigns the Lakers, or KED, resigns, whatever team he's on, sort of gives a hometown discount. But something tells me that he has no interest in doing the Tucker Carlson route
Starting point is 00:13:20 or the value of Tame and Rout of the Daily Wire route of building his own media company, building a business. I just think he generally just like waking up, doing his thing, eating his deer meat, doing a couple podcasts, and just doing what Joe Rogan do. That's my interpretation. You know, a good deciding factor though, Adam, kind of where you're going, Pat. It's the loyalty. And remember, when Joe Rogan got in trouble for making comments that the swamp and the media tried to come after him, guess what spot, because they were, Daniel and Catastasia. They were begging.
Starting point is 00:13:47 They were demanding. Get them off. Cancel him. Guess what? Daniel, I said, nope. So that's a deciding factor of someone that's like, listen, I'm not going to leave. I suppose you off the dedication and the loyalty that you said at them. I'm staying with that guy. That's me personally. I think it stays bad. I think really it's okay. So let's use the process of elimination. Number one, Apple. If Apple can't handle John Stewart, doing a show on, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:12 what do you call it, Israel, and wanting to do a show on China and AI, they are definitely not signing Joe Rogan. That's number one. So Apple's out. Number two, YouTube Google. Does Joe really want to go back to Google and see somebody else at Google
Starting point is 00:14:26 ends up taking over a CEO and the next thing, you know, they're gonna come and give him a hard time about you can't talk with the next pandemic or whatever it's gonna be hitting, climb a change pandemic. No. So I think it's really four options that he's got. Stay with Spotify, consider X,
Starting point is 00:14:41 maybe a rumble that's gonna wanna make some offers there to him as well. They're just gonna go raise the money. And the last but not least, is do your own thing. You get to pick and choose what you think Joe's gonna end up doing. But regardless what Joe does, whatever money ends up getting, anything anybody pays him. It's what worth it. And for the right money, I think he values loyalty
Starting point is 00:15:02 and I think Spotify's probably in the lead right now. But again, we'll see what's going to happen. If you're going to place odds on each of those four that you put it down to, would you say Spotify is in the lead in Canada? Spotify would you put odds? Like 50% he stays with Spotify. 25% you go with the Tucker route, raising money, what, where would you kind of put the
Starting point is 00:15:18 out? I think Joe's brand is loyalty. Joe's brand is trust and loyalty. It's very, that guy had his back. Daniel Hack has been, now, here's the thing. If Daniel Hack comes back and they're trying to lower the number or expect to get, I saw that time. Lower the number or expect to change it or try to get a discount type of a deal.
Starting point is 00:15:39 And you're not doing your part because Joe's done his part. So, but if I think they sit there and say, look, we paid you 200 over three. Are you willing to do 400 over three? Maybe Joe's manager or himself is gonna say, how about we do 600 over five? I don't know, something like that, where it's a half a billion dollar deal
Starting point is 00:15:54 and maybe he asks for a billion over 10, who knows? There's different ways to structure. And I think now that you've had three years together, you can come back and say, this is what my interest is and then they can do other things. But we'll see next Top back to going to 401k 401k hardship withdrawals are surging as high inflation squeezes
Starting point is 00:16:13 Americans this is a fox business story Regarding 401k so growing number of Americans are resorting to hardship withdrawals from their 401k retirement plans due to financial emergencies caused by persistent high inflation bank of America and analysis of employer sponsorship 401k plans found that 18,040 workers made such withdrawals in three month period from July to September 2020, marking a 13% increase from June and a 27% increase from the start of the year, hardship withdrawals allow individuals to access their 401k fund for immediate and substantial financial needs. However, they are subject to income tax and potential 10% early withdrawal penalties
Starting point is 00:16:55 for those under 59 and a half, which can be waived with evidence of qualified hardship like medical expenses and other things. On average, Americans are withdrawn approximately $5,070, similar to previous quarters. Tom, thoughts on the story? Well, I think there is a bunch of things coming together. We talked about credit cards in America
Starting point is 00:17:14 had hit a trillion dollars over the last 150 days. They went from 400 to 500 billion back to a trillion as Americans spent through the summer and spent on that. And now we're seeing people pull out. We are seeing in the credit card data that people were putting groceries and people were putting permanent household expenses, meaning gasoline, electricity ends up on your credit card,
Starting point is 00:17:42 not paid off at the end of the month. That's now permanent debt. It's supposed to be a monthly thing where you use your credit card, not paid off at the end of the month. That's now permanent debt, it's supposed to be a monthly thing where you use your credit card and you get the points because you pay it off. So that's not happening. So this is showing the inflation effect on America and is showing the expense of living.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And one more thing came up, Helox, home equity line of credits, they popped up. Third quarter was the largest increase in Helox in 10 years. You know what this means. Okay, so there's only one word I think about. Inflation? Well, for sure, but it's not that.
Starting point is 00:18:14 When you tap into your 401k, when you're tapping into your Helox, okay, those two things you do when it's desperation, it's desperation. You only tap into those things when it's desperation. Yeah. It's desperation. You only tap into those things when it's desperation. There is no, there is nothing that makes sense to tap into your 401k, you have to pay all those fees and fines and taxes now and not wait for it because it's a long-term investment plan that you're setting aside. And typically, a sign of this is telling you what's to come next. We've been consulting three different transportation companies.
Starting point is 00:18:46 One of them is down 70% from a billion to 300 million. You hear what I said from a billion to a 300 million. So think about this. Why would somebody be from that number to that low of a number? 70% drop. Across the industry, that's happening. Why are people not moving products? Why are people not transporting stuff?
Starting point is 00:19:04 Why not? They don't have money. What's going on on the back end? But are people not transporting stuff? Why not? They don't have money. What's going on on the back end? We are. But we're not feeling that right now. You're not feeling you're right now in stores. You're not feeling you're right now. What's going on with?
Starting point is 00:19:13 So, do they know something we don't know? Right? Do they know what's about to happen? Like, imagine you're in a room and you're to see a full of a company that's about to go public in four months. Okay? You and 20 other people in that room, guess what you're signing? An NDA, you can't tell your wife, you can't tell anybody
Starting point is 00:19:30 that you're about to go public, because that's what? Inside. Inside information, right? So there is 20 people that know that, and then all of a sudden, boom! XYZ just announced they're going public with more, you know, Morgan Stanley or Goldman Sachs or JP Morgan, whatever it may be, right? Now it's public information. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Hey, do you want to put money into this? Now some people are starting to call to raise some money up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up. Great. When you know something's going on like that in the industry, you have insider information about what's to happen to the economy in the next three to six months. That's the concern. When you're looking at transportation, 401K, Helox, these are all desperation, desperation, desperation.
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Starting point is 00:21:08 When you hit it spot on, you got to do it spot on. Hit it. Here's the deal. There's a famous phrase that says when you're broke, you're desperate, when you're desperate, you're stupid. And I would argue that taking money out of your 401k is a very stupid financial move. Why? So the whole premise of a 401k is a retirement
Starting point is 00:21:27 plan. You're familiar with the three-legged stool of retirement. So there's something that I learned when I started starting finance and insurance investments. Three-legged stool of retirement is as follow. So you have social security that if you pay into it, you get that. What does that pay at most? Two grand a month. So right now, there I think there was like a 8% increase in social security because of inflation. All right, that's not how you're gonna get by. There's pensions, right? So how many people do you know that actually have pensions,
Starting point is 00:21:53 right? Police, firemen, teachers, professional athletes? I think less than 20% of Americans have pensions. It's probably closer to 10% these days. Tom, you can probably fact-check me on that. But the third thing, and the three legs alignment, is your personal savings, whether that's cash, whether that's investments, and certainly your 401k.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Look, I just did a whole episode on SaaScast yesterday that only 50% of Americans are actually invested in the stock market. So if you think you're just gonna save your way to retirement or save your way to become a millionaire, even another thing coming, you actually have to invest and you actually have to use the power of compound interest to have your money grow. That's how I became a millionaire just by pumping money in year in and year out. What's the maximum 401k contribution at this point? About 20 grand a year.
Starting point is 00:22:37 So when you're doing that, your money grows and grows and grows. But when you take money out, so what's the average money that they're taking out right now, about 5 grand. Again, when you're broke your desk taking out right about five grand? Again, when you're broke, you're desperate, you're desperate, you're stupid, you're making a stupid decision why? Because you're getting double taxed. So probably even triple tax. Number one, you're paying the income tax. So what's the rate on that? 20% give or take depending on your income levels. Number two, you have to pay a 10% withdrawal fee. Okay. And then number three, you're not getting the advantages of compound interest after the day. Look, there's two ways to look at the money.
Starting point is 00:23:08 There's short term, keep it in cash, save that money, long term investing, whether it's your 401k, there's your Roth IRA, without your mutual funds, index funds, ETFs, whatever it is, don't touch that money. Like as the Bitcoiners always say, Hottle or Holdout, save that money. Don't pop their money. But I don't know what about these people though,
Starting point is 00:23:27 that they have, like Pat said, they're desperate. They have nothing else to turn to. They're not gonna ask somebody for money. They have to dip into it, which goes to my question, Pat, that growing number of Americans, that 27% increase, how much of those people you think is gonna affect their vote come this election? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:44 How many of you don't know if a one K, but here's another thing is no, no, you're pulling the money out. Are you selling at the bottom of the market anyway? Yeah, right? Well, you know what? You know what? I got Vinnie's on to something. If you're desperate and you're looking for five grand a month, you're not thinking about
Starting point is 00:23:57 not a grand a month, just five grand. Well, it appears like that. Yeah, but to everybody's point here, I mean, we're hitting the same point going around like a, where the nail in the head? No, no, no, no, no, it's kind of like a merry, we're hitting the same point going around like a bird. No, no, no, no. It's kind of like a merry-go-round. We're going around. Pat's point was people are desperate.
Starting point is 00:24:11 And these are all absolute clear signs that the American citizen is desperate at this moment. And no one's thinking top of the market, bottom of the market, although they should be. They're just getting some good financial advice from somebody, but they're not applying that right now because they can't apply that right now. At times, do you think that's gonna affect the vote as well? My question was,
Starting point is 00:24:31 Well, here's all you need to know. When you look at page 19, yeah, just go to page 19, Biden's approval rating. According to Reuters, Reuters is a left-leaning, hard course. It's a newspaper and a site that can't stand anybody on the right. Look what they say.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Biden's approval falls to the lowest level since April. Reuters, Biden's approval rating has reached his lowest since April, with only 39% of respondents approving their performance as president down slightly from October and September. This decline raises concerns about his reelection prospects in 2024, especially as he's expected to face former president Donald Trump in a rematch. The poll also revealed growing unease among respondents about war and form conflict. He's been asleep with 8% ranking. It's as it as their top concerns in November up from 4% in October.
Starting point is 00:25:17 This reflects heightened concerns around the Indian Israel-Palestinian conflict, making the highest level of war-related concerns on April of 2022, the economy remains a significant concern where for 20% of respondents, while crime and environment were cited as nine and seven%. So you're making a point that it is gonna show up if it continues like this, but if all of a sudden, mortgage rates right now,
Starting point is 00:25:40 I'll go to the next story here that's very interesting, is mortgage rates are now at 7.6, give or take, interest rates dropped a little bit, right? And it's been the biggest drop off in like 16 months, however, there's a number that you look at here talking about what's happened in the 38 year, let me see, housing affordability, if you go to page eight,
Starting point is 00:26:01 go to page eight about housing affordability, housing affordability, it's 39 year low. You know what, 39 years. Vinnie, how old are we? 45? What's 39 years ago? 39 years ago is 1984. 1984 is WAM. Careless whisper. 1984 is Dan Moreno. 1984 is Michael Jordan drafted. 1984 is like, you know, Reagan and Bush, I want to say, right? That's a good reach. ZK have a reach. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:28 1984 is like a whole different thing. How sink affordability in 39 year low. It's fair to expect prices to weaken. Okay. Is facing at least, it's least affordable condition since 84 would mortgage rates at 23 or high monthly principal and interest payments on a median price home reached a record high in October ever exceeding $2,500 for the first time. Since 1975, this marks a significant shift as the typical monthly PNI payment has risen 94%.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Oh my God. Ninety-two, nine. That's bananas. Has people's income increased 94%. It's going, what do you mean? It's no. The PNI payments increased 94 in two years now amounting to roughly 41% of the typical household's income.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Rising affordability pressure not solely due to high interest rates, but also reflect a price to income ratio of nearly 6 to 1 in contrast to 1980s when the rates were in double digits and homework About three and a half times median income to restore housing affordability one of the three homes One of the conditions must be one of the three conditions must be met a 4.4% Point drop which is not gonna happen anytime soon at the 30-year mortgage a 62% increase in median household income or a 38% decline in home prices. Let me read that one more time, Rob.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Can you highlight it? So I can show that to the audience what it just said. That's specific statement, okay? It says, I'll read it one more time, you can find it. Listen folks, if you're listening to this, it's very important, okay? In order to restore housing affordability, one of the three conditions must be met.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Let me break it down for you. Number one, mortgage rates need to fall by 4.4 percentage points. Okay. The median household income needs to increase your income by 62%. So if you're making 100 grand, you're right. Now your income needs to go to 162. If you're making 80 right, then your income needs to go to 128, okay, give or take,
Starting point is 00:28:28 60%, yeah, 128. Or the third one is, home prices need to fall by 38%. So a million dollar home needs to be 38% 720. You know, it's a 38620, okay? A half a million dollar home needs to be roughly three something, okay, is what they're talking about. These are insane numbers that when realtors get out there and say, yes, the rates are going to come down lower and prices are going to skyrocket.
Starting point is 00:28:54 You think you want that, but that's a very strange economy you'll enter, Tom. Yeah, exactly. When I read this, you know, and I look at it, it the decline in prices we need more homes for sale Anybody who's looked at any of the national information and you don't need to be you know a geek on stats like me You just read your casual. Come on Tom. You're better than that. You know just a geeker of cool phone guy I'm a cool geek. No my point is Visualize this if there's not enough for, the price is up. So we suddenly need another, we need the current homes that are for sale. I read we need that pat to almost double.
Starting point is 00:29:32 So if the number of homes for sale almost doubled, more selection means the price will come down. And a 62% increase in median household income means that the 72% of American females that are not on only fans have to get on only fans. So suddenly, how old they come? By the way, this is a public service announcement for the saucecasts available in the week. Tomorrow you should get that.
Starting point is 00:29:56 But I'm being silly, but the point is you suddenly have to find a way. This is not about waiting tables on the weekend. This is not about, you know, if your wife's a school teacher like mine, you're tutoring. This is a 62% need. This is huge. I look at it and I just realize there is a new normal and also something happened
Starting point is 00:30:16 this week Pat on adjustable mortgages. Adjustable mortgages suddenly popped up and anybody who's ever had an adjustable mortgage knows, you're making a bet. You're making a bet that in 36 months or less, that mortgage will be down two points because that's when you have a benefit to refi because you usually pay about a thousand two thousand dollars in fees to refi. So this whole thing is pointing to, if you're renting, better be used to renting. And if you own a house, stay in that house,
Starting point is 00:30:48 keep your 3% mortgage, but for the love of God, don't use your heal-octobigristeries. Right, and speaking of supply and demand, you said, all right, who the hell's selling their house right now, because you sell it a 3% mortgage, you sell to the highest bidder, now you're gonna go lock yourself into what, a 7.57, 9, 8% mortgage, you sell to the highest bidder, now you're going to go lock yourself into what, a seven point five, seven point nine, eight percent mortgage, you're not going to do that.
Starting point is 00:31:09 I think that's a 30 year fix, and over a 15 year fix, I think it's closer to seven percent. So in other words, if your old house had a 400,000 mortgage, your new house could only have a 210,000 dollar mortgage. So where the hell you going? But it's funny because I covered this yesterday. In 47 of the top 50 Metro cities, it is infinitely cheaper to rent. And I know you're always like,
Starting point is 00:31:30 tell me a good time to buy. I spent a year, now, a year and a half, the time. Well, it hasn't been the time. Now, in the time. 47 of the top 50 metros, you will save on average $1,200 a month, simply renting these days.
Starting point is 00:31:44 It was a USAIDA article, talking about what's, simply renting these days. It was a USA Today article talking about what's the better option these days. If you missed the boat during COVID, when there was sort of like the gold rush of housing, you missed the boat. I wouldn't even think about it these days. So if you go to a city like Austin, Austin Techs would talk about Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Do you know how much more you're gonna be paying a month to buy a house? $2300 a month. Okay. There's three top 50 metros Do you know how much more you're gonna be paying a month to buy a house? $2,300 per month. Okay. There's three top 50 metros where it's better to buy. Let me know if you want to move to any of these cities. Number one is Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I'm good. Okay. Number two is Memphis. I'm good. That's your fan of the of the king. Oh, the Grizzlies. Yeah. Our number three is Birmingham, Alabama.
Starting point is 00:32:23 So if you're looking to live in any of the big cities in America, New York, LA, Chicago, Miami, Dallas, Houston, and any of these cities, it is infinitely cheap but a rent you'd be saving at least 1,200 bucks a month. And to back to your point about the economy, the whole premise, James Carvell famously said, it's the economy, stupid. The Donald Trump will simply have to ask, are you better off today or were you better off
Starting point is 00:32:48 four years ago? There's a huge argument to be made. People are way better off. The thing about it, Pat, I came here, I sat in this chair when you just had me on as a guest a long time ago and I asked, I kept asking that question, when and you guys are like, just wait and wait, it has, it's been over two years and and it's gotten worse, and worse, and worse, and worse. So if that doesn't wake the people up, that's right, when I see these poles, and I hate poles,
Starting point is 00:33:10 but you see, Trump is up by, you know, he's 52% and Biden's at 58, I mean, 48, what the hell are those 48% thinking? Is it just hate for the other guy, Tom, where you're like, listen, the hell my wallet, the hell my safety, the hell with the border, the hell with all these wars, just as long as the orange guy's not in.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Yeah, it's funny, you say that. Let me show you this here, because I was about to go to the next business story, but since you're talking about that, take a look at this. Trump leads in five critical states as voters blast Biden. This is a Times and Sienna poll finds. Okay, take a look at this, Rob, if you can show this.
Starting point is 00:33:43 President Biden is trailing former President Donald Trump in five out of six crucial background states. One year before the 2024 election, according to Post conducted by the New York Times, this is not New York Post, this is New York Times. And Sienna College Trump leads by margins ranging from three to 10 percentage points in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, and Pennsylvania,
Starting point is 00:34:04 while Biden is ahead by two points in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, and Pennsylvania while Biden is ahead by two points in Wisconsin, the poll reveals deep dissatisfaction with Biden's handling of the economy again. And other issues with voters believing his policies have personally harmed them, demographic groups that strongly support Biden in 2020 are now more closely contested. And a majority of the electoral,
Starting point is 00:34:26 a majority electoral, electoral college feels the country's moving in the wrong direction, concerns about Biden's age and mental acuity are widespread with 71% of respondents considering him too old to be an effective president. New York Times. And this is what pissing me off about.
Starting point is 00:34:43 This is what pissing me off about this. Everybody says Biden this and Biden that and let's be, let's be honest. Okay. When Trump was in all the decisions that he made, we got the point that Trump, I was like, yo, I was Trump. He said this. He was stupid. This Joe Biden is literally making zero decisions. And here's, here's how I prove it. Every single time he speaks, Pat, he goes over or he says something. he's not supposed to say, what does he say? They said that I shouldn't be doing this or they said if I keep doing this,
Starting point is 00:35:11 I'm gonna get in trouble. Stop lying to yourselves and thinking that it's him that's running it. We're not stupid. We know who's behind the scenes. It's Barack Obama. Him down there, right? Him down.
Starting point is 00:35:21 It's Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, you know, I'm pretty sure George Soros has a hand and all that stuff, but it's Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, you know, I'm pretty sure George Soros has that hand and all that stuff, but it's like Pat, it worries me that Trump's numbers are up there. It worries me that they're trying, obviously, they're trying with the legal stuff in New York. I don't think it's going to stick. It scares me that what are they up to?
Starting point is 00:35:39 What is the left up to? What kind of trick is up to? There's only one thing left. But there's only one thing left. You only think it's that one? There's nothing else left but the one thing. that? There's only one thing left. But there's only one thing left. You only think it's that one? There's nothing else left but the one thing. Really? There's nothing else.
Starting point is 00:35:48 You don't think, Pat, not to cut you up. You don't think in this, if I had to run a poll of three things, Rob, think about it. This election year's coming, Pat. All right, yeah, I don't want to run. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's just say, Pat, do you think to shake stuff up, to make it, to stay home and vote and not leave the house?
Starting point is 00:36:04 Is it going to be, because the border is open and they're threatening us? Christopher Ray's like, the terrorists are here. Is it going to be a terrorist event? Is it going to be another election night of problems? Or is it going to be like something bigger? And, you know, oh my God, aliens are here or we're going into war. It has to be something. I think the way they do it,
Starting point is 00:36:25 you have only one option left with Trump, period. There's only one option. It's the lesson. It's only one thing, okay. Look, it's crazy today. I got this book coming out of December 5th called Choose Your Enemies Weicely. And I finished doing the audible.
Starting point is 00:36:39 And by the way, frickin' love doing the, I told certain stories about Tucker Carlson's when we were trying to get him on board to that. I told certain stories on, they choose the enemies wise, the audible that it's not in the physical book. This comes at December 5th, okay? I'll tell you a crazy story. Watch this.
Starting point is 00:36:52 You ever heard of the story of Dastler? You ever heard of Dastler? Dastler's shoe manufacturing company? You ever heard of Gera? Let me tell you a crazy story of Gera. Gera was the shoe invented by Rudolph and Addy. They produced the shoe Ghetto, GEDA, worn by the one and only Jesse Owens in 1936.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Jesse wins four gold medals. When the world finds out what shoes he wore called the Ghetto, the GEDA, Jesse Owens shoes, you can just type this, the Dastler Brothers produced this shoe called Getta. Well, guess what happens? Their shoe company takes off. One brother against the other,
Starting point is 00:37:30 they start fighting each other, they become each other's enemy, they chose the wrong enemy. Here's what ends up happening. On one end, Addy says Rudolph is a Nazi sympathizer. Rudolph says Addy stole money from the company. So they eventually say, this shit's not gonna work.
Starting point is 00:37:46 In 1948, you know what company starts, Rudolph, he starts a company called Puma, which is now an $8 billion company. Guess what, Addy starts, Addy does a deal. Adidas, in 1949, Adidas becomes a $34 billion company. Okay, fast-forward to today, between the two of them, they're a $41, $42, $43 billion company, okay? Fast forward to today, between the two of them, they're a $4142, $43 billion auto company.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Nike comes out 20 years later, I think, in 1968. If you type in when Nike was founded, I wanna say 67, 68, Nike get started. There you go, 64, you drink four again. Nike get started with pre-fontein, that's right, GoProry, and these guys, and I'm taking Puma and Adidas, and Nike becomes a $167 billion company, nearly five times what the two companies are worth.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Combined. Four to five times what they're worth. What happened? They chose the wrong enemy. The brother became an enemy. What's the moral of the story? Chain Berlin thought Churchill was the enemy. He wasn't.
Starting point is 00:38:39 The enemy was Hitler. America needs to get over this bullshit concept of thinking Trump is the enemy. Trump is not the enemy. The enemy is outside of the US. They are such scared little pansies worried about this guy. I think he needs the enemy. And then all of a sudden when world, you're in a world war three starts in a cold new shit. It wasn't really this freaking guy. At least he loves America one was safe when he was around, the enemy's outside. Does it really need to get to that point for people to get a little bit more comfortable
Starting point is 00:39:08 to say, what the hell do we get sabotaged about? Commence this guy was a bad guy for 50 years when he thought about the lifestyle of the rich and famous rappers wanted to be Trump. Kids wanted to be Trump. There's a reason why mainstream media hosted a show called The Prentice for 15 years. There's a reason for that. Why? Because it works. People want it to buy. And in all of a someone decision and mainstream media made you think this guy's a bad guy? I think people have to get to a point right now to realize
Starting point is 00:39:34 the enemy is not within the enemy is within us. There's no question about it. We have a lot of them in the establishment side that are trying to take this country, this great country down. But the right people who can reason the independence, the reasonable folks, yesterday I got into a conversation with a guy on Twitter, I'm like, do you really believe this about Muslims and Hamas? You seem like a reasonable guy. How could you say any Muslim dad condemns
Starting point is 00:39:58 what Hamas did? You're not a true Muslim. Any Muslim that condemns what Hamas did is not a true Muslim. I actually like this guy, I have had him on before. I said, your language here, there's no ability to reason. You're convinced there is nothing wrong that was done about October 7th. A Muslim who condemns October 7th as a hypocrite
Starting point is 00:40:18 and a traitor to Islam, okay? So I'm like, I got calls from Muslim saying, Pat, this is not us. This is not, and I'm like, I don't even think this is him. Cause I've talked to the sky before. But to me, the point is this, people are starting to realize they don't want World War Three, they just want a good economy, they want to have a job,
Starting point is 00:40:35 they don't want to be gas lit, they don't want to be manipulated, they don't want to be brainwashed, they want to be free, they want to go watch a good movie, without worrying about what's going to happen with these movies, they want to watch media and just give me the news. What the hell is going on?
Starting point is 00:40:46 Stop telling me like bullshit. That's a life for three and a half years. And then you move on the other day, Stephen Crowder shares the stuff that he gets from the police. The man in the past though, the natural man in the past though, the transgender girl. Goes viral everywhere except Instagram takes it down. Videos take it down. Why? Because the guy was the girl, the trends was a liberal saying stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Kill white man. Kill white and all left ideology, all left ideology. You know, we can't report on that. Of course not. That's how they hit it. Look, when we're saying that she had a mental issue, which people are saying is that the core of a lot of this, but that's not forever. That's not the narrative. And I'll pay, but going back to my question, I'll pay, do you think those people that you're talking about are going to wake up? I genuinely don't feel it. And I'm not saying I don't have hope.
Starting point is 00:41:27 You don't need everybody, GoPro. Life doesn't work that way, Vinnie. In life, you think, you know, very early on in my life, I had certain people that didn't support me starting my own company. At certain people, when we got married, Jen and I got married, you have no idea how many endless letters we got. I specifically anonymous. Why are you marrying a white girl? Why are you marrying this? When I started insurance company, you know how many people letters we got, I specifically anonymous. Why are you marrying a white girl?
Starting point is 00:41:45 Why are you marrying this? When I started insurance company, you know how many people didn't support that I wanted their support? You know how many people dole toll, Jen? You sure you wanna marry Pat, a guy from Iran? You sure you wanna marry a guy like that that's got that kind of a temperament
Starting point is 00:41:57 that is going, going, going, going. You sure you want that? Guess what? We're okay. We're taking marriage one year at a time. Businesses doing okay. But you thought you needed everyone's support. You don't need everyone's support.
Starting point is 00:42:08 You need the right amount of reasonable people who have the courage, the willingness to accept flaws in their own argument, accept the other side's argument. Okay, they're able to reason. They love people. If we can have fundamentally those five elements that you need, where we can have a good conversation to get and make progress, then we can lead the rest of the world.
Starting point is 00:42:31 It starts with those five. If we don't have those things forget about it, but I think plenty of people today are sitting around saying, you know what, I think there's something after. I think we're gonna be okay, and we're finding each other. I wanna go to the next story here. Next story we got is you brought up, I don't wanna go to politics earlier, and we're finding each other. I want to go to the next story here. Next story we got is you brought, I don't want to go to politics early, but we're already there.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Sorry. Work from home, staff worry. They're being looked down on, missing out on promotions. This is a daily mail story. And by the way, I actually agree with the story. You are, if you're thinking this, remote workers, express concerns about being looked down upon by colleagues who have returned to the office with 60% of hybrid workers, having a sneaking suspicion that on-site staff have better career opportunities according
Starting point is 00:43:10 to a Macrindal research, overall 59% of all workers believe that those in the office will benefit more in terms of career investment. They will. Productivity is a key factor in this divide. With 67% of workers admitting they are more productive in the office than home. Again, look at the number. We are 67% admitting, not six percent, not seven percent, 67% they're more productive in the office. Then at home, this has led to the coining of the term super-office, superior-office to describe the perceived superiority of on-site staff, the social divide between remote and on-site workers
Starting point is 00:43:47 is also evident leading to desire among many employees to return to the office for the social benefits. This division has led to video conferencing formal where hybrid and remote workers fear missing out on workplace happenings, Tom. Well, guess what? The mainstream business media owns a lot of CEOs in apology
Starting point is 00:44:06 because now you're coming out saying, oh, poor people, poor downtrodden people, they need to be given advancement opportunities. Need to be doing this where there were people out there. Like you can look up. This guy went out on a limb. There was a division of Verizon, which was their media group called oath and a guy named Tim Armstrong was a CEO, and he was saying, wait a minute. I can show you in our annual review process that you're not getting the mentorship opportunities. You don't get the sidebar conversation with somebody before a meeting or after meeting. You don't get exposed to somebody on a presentation or a project you've made when all you are is on a Zoom. And you're not going to get considered not because you're not present,
Starting point is 00:44:47 because you're not developing as fast. You're not in the human environment. And so I have no tears for the people that weren't, that not for the people that were forced during lockdown because their city would ever said, hey, you can't come to the office, they were forced home. And it happened in a lot of blue cities. But the people that fought, kicked, and screamed,
Starting point is 00:45:08 and cried to stay home. And Pat, we encountered some of them, we tried to interview them at the insurance company. And we're like, look, if you're this much trouble now, you're gonna be trouble later on. This interview's over, goodbye. They are now coming back saying, oh, poor me, poor me, poor me.
Starting point is 00:45:23 It, the fact, if you're around a team of people, you develop as a human. It's a thing called human relationship and it's called a work relationship and it's called mentoring and that's how you get better. You know, whether it's a coach in athletics at college, how do you do that remotely? You know, how do you, how do you get better without the relationship of somebody who's willing to take in interest with you and be with you with all those micro meetings during the day after that Zoom?
Starting point is 00:45:50 And now, oh, I don't have advancement opportunities. Sorry, if you forced it and stayed home after COVID was over and you kicked and screamed to keep it work from home opportunity and now you're not advancing, I'm sorry, you made the wrong decision. For me, this comes down to one word, and that word is leverage. We talked about who had leveraged during COVID
Starting point is 00:46:10 and it was the employee. They said, hey, look, I'm not going in the freaking office as COVID, I don't know if I was going on here. The government said the stairwell said no. I have the leverage here, right? So now the leverage has shifted. The employer has the leverage. You have the option to say, well, look, if you're just not coming into the office, we'll
Starting point is 00:46:27 go find a better candidate or candidates willing to come into the office. I still can't believe this is a thing. We are a quarter away. We're out three to four months away from having the four year anniversary of the onset of COVID. The fact that people are still basically saying, yeah, you know, COVID, bro. Yeah. Yeah, I don't want to, don't want to get that new strain of COVID. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:49 And I just don't want to work from the office anymore. It's so dumbfounded to me. It's stupid. They're lazy. But again, it comes down to leverage. If the company is like, yeah, well, you know, we'll let them do that. That's fine. The employee will take advantage of the employer's niceness, weakness, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:47:05 I don't think it's leverage. I don't think employers are trying to take advantage of this right now. I think there's a reality. It's a better word than leverage. The people want to be promoted and they're not able to. I actually agree with them, but I'm going to replace the word leverage with abuse. And let me tell you what abuses. You know when they say you want to know, test someone's character, given power.
Starting point is 00:47:25 You learn a lot about them. Okay. And employees had a lot of power during COVID. What did they do? They abuse the power. You know you did, if you're watching this, you know who you are. Don't act like you didn't. I know you're watching right now thinking like I'm your boss. I don't, you don't work for me. It's not you and I, but you know you abuse it. Many of you do. I'm not talking. If you're my audience, if you're a PVD podcast audience, probably not you, but 10, 20% of people that watch the PVD podcast because they can't stand what we talk about, we love you as well, but you know some of you abused it,
Starting point is 00:47:51 okay, and by the way, we also know many business owners abused their power as well. We've seen that happen as well, where you know somebody's doing what they're doing, you're using, abusing your power against your people, and knowing they've done their part, they've risen, they've done good things. By the way, abuse from the top, nor from the bottom, is not a good long-term strategy. You will be exposed.
Starting point is 00:48:12 The market will expose you. The market will expose an abusive father. The market will expose an abusive husband. The market will expose an abusive wife. The market will expose an abusive mom. The market will expose an abusive boss. The market will expose an abusive boss and abusive employees just gonna be taking place. But I will tell you this year, what's gonna,
Starting point is 00:48:29 I remember when this happened. Do you remember what I said on the podcast when this was going on? I said, because you guys, it was you and a couple of other guys, if you can get your raise, go get it. I'm telling you, don't do it. I'm telling you, don't do it.
Starting point is 00:48:42 And I took the other side, I was like, go get your money. You took the other side. But listen, this is fine. This is why we have the exchange. I said, don't do it. And I took the other side. I was like, go get your money. Yeah, you took the other side. But listen, this is fine. This is why we have the exchange. I said, don't do this is why I said, don't do it. Yeah, because you rewarded loyalty. Dude, like, like, Moral and Teacron are multi-millionaires now, bro.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Teacron started minimum wage with me. 10 bucks an hour. Teacron, I don't even know what we paid you when you first got started. Minimum wage. You're paying them too much, fat. By the way, some would say we were paying them much. I guess what happened with him He just got promoted to the VP of distribution and sales I love that and you know what equity shares. Yeah, got emotional
Starting point is 00:49:12 He was in tears when we made the announcement at the restaurant and what capital grill and Dallas. It was awesome Love this guy, but guess what loyalty He's kids are my kids the other day. I'm throwing a ball with them and Daniel and Dante were, you know, just pitching, as if I know how to pitch, but I'm giving them the basic fundamentals. But I'm in a good time together, right? Mario's same thing. There is value in you doing that long term.
Starting point is 00:49:34 I'm on one of these podcasts this week. I don't know who it was. Guy asked me a question, what's one of your biggest fear? And I don't even know how we got into it. You know what I said? What's one of my biggest fears? One of my biggest fear is losing God's favor. I don't know if I have many fears outside of them.
Starting point is 00:49:51 I really don't know if I have, like I think about what I have. Do I want to go out there and have a penthouse on the hundred floor and sit outside, have a cup of coffee? Probably not. That's not my cup of tea, if you know what I'm talking about. You've been there. Do I want to go out there, jump out of a plane and go like one of those guys that are flying like this and all this other stuff. That's not your thing.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Well, the squirrels too. But it's not, it's, have zero interest, right? Biggest fear, losing God's favor. There is nothing worse than you getting favor after being on your knees praying, God, if you give me this, I will commit you for the rest of my life. And I'll do my best. My relationship with God, I feel like it's a David and God type of a relationship, okay? And I'm the underdog, it's the whole David and Goliath story.
Starting point is 00:50:38 We have a very unique relationship. When you have a relationship with a boss or a supervisor or CEO or person you're working with, would they have your back and they're willing to make your life better? Don't lose favor. Don't be an asshole. Don't be a jerk. Don't abuse. Vice versa.
Starting point is 00:50:58 When you have people's loyalty, don't do the same. This doesn't mean don't have high expectations. This doesn't mean don't challenge them. This doesn't mean don't call them out. This doesn't mean sit there and be like, oh my God, all this others have. I love one of the things Elon talks about in his book. This is why I tell everybody to go by Musk's book. One of the best things he talks about in his book is the follow in the commandments that they have when you work with an Elon. Here's
Starting point is 00:51:17 what they say. A maniacal sense of urgency is a must when you work with Elon. Here's the other one he says, camaraderie is dangerous. It makes it hard for people to call each other out. 100%. There's a tendency to not want to throw a colleague under the bus if he's your friend. Guess what we have? Hey, you're not doing something, call him out.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Is that the right thing? Is this this? Is this that? No, that's our environment, that's our culture. But never, ever, if you have favor with anybody, never screw up losing favor with someone that is willing to go above and beyond to do great things for you. That's God, that's father, that's husband, that's wife, that's family, that's friends, that's
Starting point is 00:51:54 running mates, that's people that have you back, any of that. Anyways, we can go to the next story here. India, debate on 70-hour work week. Is it illegal or road to greatness? CNBC, they're worried if this is illegal. Don't you just love the fact that CNBC is so deeply concerned about India? What?
Starting point is 00:52:15 Page 9, Infosys founder, Narina Murthy's controversial statement suggesting that young people should work 70 hours a week to boost India's economy has sparked debate. While some industry leaders agree that such long hours may be necessary for India to compete globally, there's also a strong opposition with concerns about mental health and work-life balance. India's current average work week is approximately 47.7 hours already hired in other countries
Starting point is 00:52:41 like the US, the UK, Germany, industry leaders, argued that the greater effort are needed for India to compete with global economic giants, making sacrifices like extended work hours essential. The debate has also highlighted the generational and cultural differences in perspectives on work time. I got so much to say about this, but I'll go to you guys first. Let me tell you, beware the man that wants to outwork out in Provia. And that, ladies and gentlemen, if you don't think that they're inside the business of India, and I'm talking about the equivalent of their MBA schools and their CEOs and their national
Starting point is 00:53:18 pride, if you don't think they don't look north east to China, and they want to kick their butt as a labor source as an innovation source, you're not paying attention. And beware the man that wants to outwork you and that's what Indy wants to do. They want to outwork people. And what they're basically saying here is that, you know what, we're going to really have an debate on this point and they're not letting liberal politicians go, no, no, no, wait, what about a 30-hour week and four days in the office and one day from home?
Starting point is 00:53:49 These are industrious people and I have a great deal of respect for them. You take a look at the great men and women that have come out of IIT and are part of U.S. companies. IIT over there is equivalent or even better than our MIT. And so I think this is a dedicated group of people, and I'll tell you, I wouldn't want to go up against them. If I'm China, I don't want to go up against them. And what they're talking about here
Starting point is 00:54:18 is just the core of the engine that causes people to pass you. And Pat, did they make that move recently? Where the iPhones are being, there's more being made in India than they are in China now? Yeah, they're starting, now you're starting to get iPhones being made in India than China, which is great. Well, they're stepping up their work hours
Starting point is 00:54:35 and their bus, Pat, Pat, and if you're young, work your ass off. Who gives a shit if they're stepping up and Apple's on their show? I gotta tell you, there's probably a lot of people in India who are working, they're being like, hold on what? What?
Starting point is 00:54:47 They're working right now 42 hours and I have to go 70. So it all depends on who you are and who you want to be. If you're an entrepreneur, an entrepreneur, a salesperson, if you're actually working on commission or you own the business, dude, 70 hours, no brainer. I've been there. I've done that. I'm sure you've worked 100 hour weeks, okay? But if you're working, the typical nine to five worker, and they're about to tell you that you're going from 47 hours a week to 70, alarm bells are going
Starting point is 00:55:15 off in your head. Again, it depends on who you are and who you want to be. By the way, here are the five carriages with the longest work weeks. Number one to the top of the list is the UAE 52 hours a week. Then you have Gambia at 50 hours, Bhutan at 50, Lesotho never heard of this country, 49.8, and the Congo at 48.6. And you have countries at the bottom of the list as far as the nine to five type work weeks.
Starting point is 00:55:39 I've hadn't heard of half of these countries. Venatau 24 hours a week, Kerabati 27 hours a. Venetao, 24 hours a week, Karabati, 27 hours a week, Mozambique, 28 hours a week, were one to 28, Austria, 29. So there's precedent here, it's all that I'm freaking saying. And all right, you found that wrong. Thank you, buddy.
Starting point is 00:55:55 So if India wants to go from 47 to 50, and surpass UAE at 52, 53, go for it, guys. You have the largest population in the world. But to go from 53 to 57 to 58 to 60 to mandated 70, if you don't have that entrepreneurial spirit or try to build a business or a salesperson, which I was, which I understand, and you're just a 95 type employee.
Starting point is 00:56:23 That could be very shocking. So hold the front element, we're not talking about type employee. That could be very shocking. Hold the front element, we're not talking about. Let me tell you what it is. Okay, so what is a secret sauce for parents to make sure their kids don't do drugs growing up? What do you do? Expose them to the wrongs of doing drugs.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Show them people that have failed. What do you do? What's the basic thing to do? It's a very simple phrase we've all heard before. You want to make sure your kids don't get involved in stupid things, keep your kids what? Keep them busy, right? Do things, keep your kids what? Keep them busy, right?
Starting point is 00:56:46 Do things, which is what? Sports, activities, et cetera, et cetera. Okay, no problem. If you want to lower crime in your city, what do you do with your population? Give them jobs, make them work. Keep them busy, positive distraction. I would much rather have my city,
Starting point is 00:57:00 my guys working at a younger age in their 20s than doing anything else. If guys are working 70 hours a week, guess what? They're probably like, dude, man, I'm gonna be passing out on Friday, I'm good, but I party Saturday. So I get these guys to party from one night a week to two times when I was running a sales team.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Let me tell you what I used to do on January 1st. You ready? When I was just asking anybody that work with me, they're gonna tell you Pat would freaking do this every day. And I guess what you did? Go for it in the game. I'm guessing. Go ahead. January 1st, you had a 9 a.m. And I guess what you did. Go for it again. I'm guessing. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:57:26 January 1st. You had a 9 a.m. meeting. 8 a.m. 9 a.m. 9 a.m. On January 1st. 8 a.m. I don't care if that is abuse.
Starting point is 00:57:35 They could go ahead and say it's by the way, by the way, I would have been there at 8 a.m. I know you would have been. I just wouldn't have a slap. But you know what happened. So guess what happened when I started running meetings on January 1st 8 AM. You know what happened? Our DUIs went down. Why?
Starting point is 00:57:50 How many DUIs? People know not to drink. Wait a minute, what happens? Have you been in sales before? What do sales people do? Drink and drive. That's what they do. What do you want to do afterwards?
Starting point is 00:57:58 Let's go have a drink. Are you kidding me? I lower DUIs. So that's a net positive to society. If I get people to party, what happens if you get a city to party one fewer night the other night? If you get one less DUIs, less problem. A lot of bars are going to go to business. I'm not in that business store. But if you think about the behavior is a better behavior. So yes, I don't mind
Starting point is 00:58:19 doing 70 hours. And by the way, US, CNBC, that journalist from Colombia, or Yale, or Cornell, or whatever school you went to, okay? That told you, it's just not good, and you're the work from home gang community, right? You guys all going to these work from home chats and talk to each other while you're watching Netflix and chill, and whatever freaking show you're watching. Guess what India is doing?
Starting point is 00:58:43 Laughing at you. Flat out laughing at your face. They're saying, what a freaking American. I'm in the Shah's documentary stuff. I'm listening to right now. He's like, you know what's one of the things he called America and the West? He said, the American people take one too many sleeping pills.
Starting point is 00:58:58 And they need to wake up. The American people take one too many sleeping pills. This is a guy That when he became the king of Iran the literacy rates in Iran was 1% Only 1% of them are Iran could read you know what he did 10 20 years later you took it from 1 to 50% Wow, how do you do that? High standards high expectations getting people to work getting people to be smarter. So India I hope you don't listen to none of these clowns who are these journalists at 23 years old writing an article like this, Bashin you.
Starting point is 00:59:31 I hope you whoops some ass. I hope India stays focused and you dominate every one of these clowns that knocks you guys working 70 hours a week. And one day when you wake up in your 30s, 40s, you're like, listen, now if I wanna work 70, I'll do it because I chose to. But at least in the years where you make the biggest dumbest mistakes, 20s, you got away and would make a few mistakes because you were working your
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Starting point is 01:00:32 fan-dual. Download the app today to see why we're North America's number one sports book. 19 plus and physically located in Ontario. Gamlincom call 1866-531-2600 or visit Connects Ontario. That's yeah. I agree with you 100%. You know, my house, I'm known as being a little intense at the holidays because I start to get bored between Christmas and New Year's and because I don't turn off my brain. And Kim and I have had this tradition. We sit down, we plan, we do our taxes on New Year's Eve.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Believe it or not. New Year's Eve, we go over to People's House, but the day New Year's Eve, you know what? We're planning to do our taxes. New Year's Day, we get up and we make the plan for the year. Where we go on, what we're doing, we confirm, you know, vacation, stuff like that. And when you keep yourself occupied, good things happen. Very good things happen.
Starting point is 01:01:19 And I think good things are about to happen for India, and I do not think it's a bad practice to be more on top of your game and more intense and focus a little bit more. I mean, I teach my girls work ethic, I teach them strong work ethic. It's not how many hours you work and it's until the objective is completed. I talk about them a lot and right now India is objective, they talk about this, what they're talking about,-term industrial competitiveness.
Starting point is 01:01:49 You compete with global economic giants. Those are the objectives that are putting on there. And somebody is looking at and saying, if we want to do this guys, this is the price. I bet you any money too, the girl that wrote that article, she was writing it from home. I actually am curious to know who,
Starting point is 01:02:03 Rob, can you go look up who wrote the article? And guys, probably on the cloud. She's probably on our bed. This isn't like the government in India mandating this. This is even a proposal. This is, this is one serious entrepreneur. His proposal, here's the idea, Niranya Murthy, who's, he's the founder of Infosys. So I think it's just something that he put out there
Starting point is 01:02:25 to see the test sort of the marketplace. I would love to see what the people of Mindy have to say if you're gonna go from 47 hours, what is it? To 70, what's the increase on that? You know Adam, come with me, let's go to 35%. Let's go to Hyderabad, Indy, let's go to the tech center that supplies a lot of support to the US companies, front-end engineers, back-end engineers, iOS, Android engineers, Ruby on Rails, Python guys. And you'll tell me, they'll look at 70 hours and they're like, where can I get that job?
Starting point is 01:02:56 They're bustin' ass right now. Yeah, let them, I love the one. People would say to me, I would go to my friends and I would see them and they would say, Patrick, you're working too hard. Don't you think you're working too hard? You think it's healthy, you think it's this, I would go to my friends and I would see them and they would say, Patrick, you're working too hard. Don't you think you're working too hard? You think it's healthy. You think it's this. I'm like, dude, it's... They're not worried about you, Pat.
Starting point is 01:03:10 They were worried about themselves. Exactly. They're worried about the fact that you're advancing and it's like, hey, do you think this is healthy? Do you think this, I'm like, dude, listen. What's the breakdown, by the way? How many, is it six days a week or five days a week? Because if it's five days a week, what is that?
Starting point is 01:03:21 14 hours a day and if it's six days a week, what is that? 11, 12 hours a week? A day? It's not a crazy number by the way. No, I've been there. I've done that. I'm just saying, guess what?
Starting point is 01:03:31 It worked for you. It worked for me. No doubt. But if you're built that way, if you tell a typical employee who's used to nine to five by the way, you're now nine to nine. If you sell it,
Starting point is 01:03:39 if you sell the benefits of it, if you sell the benefits, gotta be the person who shows. You don't have, not everybody needs to do it. But if you sell the benefits of it, let me sell the benefits, it's got to be the person's choice. You don't have, not everybody needs to do it. But if you sell the benefits of it, let me tell you, anybody you're in the hunt with in anything, whether it's military, whether it's business,
Starting point is 01:03:53 whether it doesn't matter what you're doing. If you're in the hunt with somebody, the level of bond you build with those people when you're in the hunt, for the rest of your life, when you guys look at each other, you have a smile on your face because you know what you guys paid,
Starting point is 01:04:05 the price you paid together while you build, whatever you build. There's one X factor here. The wife who's always complaining that you're never home because you work too hard, now you're working even harder. I don't know. I think that's why you're gonna get connected. That's why you talk about it up front.
Starting point is 01:04:20 You ask what kind of a life you want to live, honey. You talk about it up front. Let's talk about this next thing again, and we'll go into politics. Thousands of people are reportedly lining up to have a portion of their skull removed, literally removed. And one of Elon Musk's brain chips implanted, okay? Rob, can you just pull up the story so people can see the cover the story there so they know what we're talking about with neural link? Here we go. Thousands of individuals have expressed interest in receiving brain implants from neural link a company co-founder by Elon Musk Although the company has not yet implanted its device in a human its plans
Starting point is 01:04:54 It plans to operate on 11 people next year and aims to reach over 22,000 by 2030 Norell Inc received approval from the US food and drug administration to conduct Norellink received approval from the US Food and Drug Administration to conduct human trials earlier this year. The device is described as a fit bit in your skull by Musk with the goal of enabling a symbiotic relationship between humans and machines, allowing actions like sending messages or playing games using thoughts despite considerable interest. The company is still searching for its first volunteer willing to undergo surgery to have a portion of their skull removed. So robot can insert electrodes and super thin
Starting point is 01:05:31 wires into their brain. Vinnie, would you do that? First of all, would you do that? This is the beginning of the end. I just want everybody to know that. First of all, Pat, I read this. I read the book of Eela. Actually, I heard it all. I just finished it. Yeah, I read the book of Ela, I actually heard it all. I just finished it. Yeah, dude, he's a no joke BS. Like he's there, he's sleeping in the office. He's sleeping at SpaceX. The guy's insane.
Starting point is 01:05:53 But when it comes to something like that, especially SpaceX, Pat, things crash, you know, the spaceship, the shuttle doesn't reentry, it burns up. To be one of the first 11 to go in there, bro, if a rocket ship that they put together is going to crash, who knows what that's going to do, bro? When you start messing with your brain, that's a whole different situation.
Starting point is 01:06:11 But I could see how volunteers of maybe people that are in a wheelchair or I'm assuming, like it trust me. If I was in a wheelchair, Pat, and it was like, I was really in bad shape. I would do it. I would 100% do it. So you would do it. I would do it. Which is why I choose to be the first. If I was in the, if I was in that shape,. I would do it. I would 100% you would do it. I would do it. Which is a volunteer to be the first if I was in the if I was in that right now right now.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Like this. Yeah. No, can I mean there's still stuff happening. Adam, what do you got? I'm good on that. We talked about when you're broke, your desperate, your desperate, your stupid. There's just going to be some broke desperate stupid guy. Yeah, I'm here for the bright. Yeah, I'm just what you do. I'm getting, I'm here for the brightening plant. Yeah, I'm just, what'd you do? I'm getting in line over here for that. I'm good on that. No, Tom's already smart enough. You're thinking of more brains?
Starting point is 01:06:51 Yeah, no, no, no. Last thing to do is the chip. Tom is, yeah. I'll have the else worth if there's a menu. I'm like, I'll have the else worth. You know what I used to say at meetings at PHP? Yeah, at home staff meetings. I said, I don't need coffee, I am coffee.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Yeah. So, the issue, I am virus. Not, that's you. So, no, I wouldn't do it, but Vinny, you almost made the argument for experimental medicine. And experimental medicine's been around a long time. I mean, this is why Steve McQueen went to Mexico to get early
Starting point is 01:07:26 lateral treatments for cancer way back, like 35, 40 years ago. So there will be people I think, I'm not in favor of it electively, but I am in favor of it if there's saying, hey, what if you could help the following people with the following condition? But that's not what he's talking about. He's talking about enhancements and convenience. That's what the musk is talking about.
Starting point is 01:07:49 He's not talking about curing or helping Alzheimer's or something. Well, in the book, you could make an argument about experimental medicine. Yeah. Maybe you take, if you're on your way out of here, and you've only got X-Labs. If you're a vegetable, yeah, if you're like literally bed, you can't get out of bed, you're just laying there and there's a way because in the running the largest running the most powerful company and what kind of stuff, but because did you read the book, Tom, the, the, Elon book?
Starting point is 01:08:13 No, you missed a joke. I said, you're just by yourself messing around laying in bed. I said, running the most powerful country in the world. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But that's hilarious. He's the one. What are the chances that you're signing up for this experiment? Definitely. Yeah. First of all, let me're signing up for this experiment. That's enough.
Starting point is 01:08:25 I'm not kidding me. First of all, let me tell you what I mean, but I'm not. So just hear me out for a second when I go through this. So COVID, what research do you have that it works or if it doesn't work? No. You know what, I'm good with the vaccine. Now if this would have gone, the second round of COVID, third, fourth, fifth, we have 10 years of research now,
Starting point is 01:08:45 no cancer, no nothing, no this. And in 20, 45 something happens, I would entertain the idea because we got 20 years of research, right? Okay, these neural links or whatever they're doing, no problem, go for it, do test it out for five years, 10 years. You know, just wonder some people like, zzzz, you know what they're doing?
Starting point is 01:09:03 It's like, I was like, I was just, yeah, that's funny. Yeah. What was that? The lecture's like, and then, boom, he just falls, right? You see some of those, I watch this movie the other day, FNAF, because that's what Tico keeps calling it, Freddie's in whatever Friday's in a Friday, what a freaking.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Did you watch it? Yeah, my 13 year old watch. What'd you think about it? Very interesting movie. Dark movie, bro. Yeah, not, he was watching it on my phone at the game. That is a dark movie, but I watched it. I was like, that's a good, it's actually very good.
Starting point is 01:09:30 I'm concerned about the movie because I think the movie is a different premise, but that's a whole different story that we can get into a different time. But yeah, I don't know right now. I do think it's gonna be a big business, and I do think people are gonna be surprised how many people would be willing to do it. They'll actually be like, I'm in. Imagine how many people are living a dull, boring life, dude.
Starting point is 01:09:50 You can put this in my body and I'm gonna be somebody that can think like an ex-wisey person. Damn it. I don't want to go read the books. I don't want to go to get a degree. Put that shit in its 3000 books. I'm a natural chat GBT. Yeah, it's okay. It's like the matrix when they plug you into that thing, but Pat, people are recommended. But you know, people are asking the question is, Pat, with all the hacking that's going on, remember that F-35 airplane, they're saying that the reason that it just kept going
Starting point is 01:10:15 and the pilot ejected is that somebody hacked into the auto pilot and it kept going. Who's to say that somebody can't hack into that or they have complete control, Pat? Whatever they put signals in your brain, go go do this go do that Tom. That's very shum as a religious person. The mark of the beast. I'm saying the mark of the beast. I don't know if this is what God intended to be a human robot. Now don't go to your Halloween country guy voice. I'm not I'm just I'm genuinely asking you a question. I thought you were going there. No, I'm not and maybe I'll just I'm making a statement. I won't even ask a question. I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm Remember how freaked out people got about Google Glass? Like you can't go into the studio, you can't go into excuse me,
Starting point is 01:11:05 casinos with Google Glass, because they thought that you could be watching and counting the cards. It was supposed to be the next big thing. Well, it was, it was, but it crossed the line of augmented human. So if I've got the Google Glass there, the casinos did not want me counting cards
Starting point is 01:11:20 with the thing in my ear being able to beat the casino. And so you're about to take some steps here, and there's a lot of ethical things. You're playing with fires, what do I think? Yeah, exactly, I agree. You're playing with fire. Okay, next story. Let's go through some issues you're going on. So, Iran says, U.S. will be hit hard
Starting point is 01:11:36 if no Gaza cease fire is implemented. Then, right after they say that, U.S. nuke sub arrives in message to Iran after threat to hit America hard. That literally happens the next day. So the first statement is, hey, if you mess with us, Muhammad, there is a Asteani, the Iran Ministry of Defense emphasized the urgency stating our advice to the Americans is to immediately halt the war in Gaza and implement a ceasefire.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Otherwise they will be hit hard. Now that's a pretty, that's a threat right there. There's no other way to put it. That's a threat. So a U.S. Ohio class submarine has arrived in the Middle East as a deterrent to regional adversaries. In response to Iran's threat of hitting America hard, if there's no Gaza ceasefire,
Starting point is 01:12:16 Iran's Minister of Defense, we already read what he said. The Israeli military welcomed the deployment, seeing it as a stabilizing factor in addition, a substantial Western armada, compromising 19, comprising 19 warships, including the world's largest aircraft carrier, the Alib guided missile cruiser, has amassed in the Eastern Mediterranean, the US military presence in the region, has increased significantly to prevent Iranian involvement. Meanwhile, Bernie Sanders, you ready for this?
Starting point is 01:12:44 He rejects calls for Israel and Hamas ceasefire. What? He told CNN, Dana Bash. I don't know how you can have a ceasefire, a permanent ceasefire with an organizational like Hamas, which is dedicated to turmoil in chaos and destroying the state of Israel. This is Bernie Sanders folks.
Starting point is 01:13:03 What the Arab countries in the region understand is that Hamas has got to go the immediate task right now is to end the bombing, to end the horrific humanitarian disaster, to build go forward with the entire world for a two-tier, two-state solution to the crisis, to give the Palestinian people whole. But if anyone thinks that Trump is going to be better than Biden on the issue or any other issue for that matter, I think they are sorely mistaken. So Bernie still finished off the statement defending Biden, US plans 320 million dollars of weapons to transfer to Israel as Gaza toll mounts.
Starting point is 01:13:36 I mean, there's a bunch of stories here that's taken place over 10,000 Palestinians killed in Gaza. Hamas run health minister says, you ain't calls Gaza children's graveyard. So many disturbing stories with this going on here, Tom, any thoughts on what's going on here and do you think pieces are on the corner? This is going to bleed into 2024. So one message for Iran that came out of this. So you speak on Monday afternoon and on Tuesday morning, you know, the sub surfaces, you know, the sub-surfaces. You know what that means?
Starting point is 01:14:05 The sub doesn't travel at 900 miles an hour. We were there the whole time. And we just surfaced to let them know is, you know, we've been here the whole time. It's kind of like your mom in the kitchen saying, you know, I can hear you. Yeah, exactly. When you're talking crap when your brother. So the sub-surf is just kind of let the Iranians know, knock, knock. Yeah, we're here. I've been at your front door the whole time. You maybe want to shut your mouth. So number, the first thing is,
Starting point is 01:14:34 we're seeing disconnects in what you would think with Bernie Sanders would be saying on the wild progressive side. Instead, he sounds almost like Nikki Haley. If you look at what Bernie was saying, look at what Nikki is saying, they're saying the same thing. A, I don't think there could be a ceasefire.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Not with Hamas there. Hamas has got to go. You know, we're defending Israel. Guess what? On Fort Malice, Nikki Haley and Bernie Sanders for five minutes on a Tuesday agreed. I think that people need to be aware of that. And also, it just shows how important it is to check Turkey and to check Iran because
Starting point is 01:15:14 if they make moves and his bullet gets involved, I've said that since the beginning, other military strategists have said it since the beginning. That's what you, while Israel working on on this situation at Hamas And we can talk about techniques and other time and civilian life and all that which is important very important But you just can't have the Syria Iran Turkey dominoes fall over you can't have that happen and we've got We've got this massive armada over there now, letting people know, hey, dude, we were here the whole time, and just putting a force up that just says, do you want to mess with me?
Starting point is 01:15:51 Come on in. You know, there's a famous phrase that says, show me your friends. I'll show you your future. You ever heard that one before? First off. And it's all being revealed who Hamas's friends are. And their big brother, their best friend is Iran. And the Mullahs and the Theocrats that run Iran.
Starting point is 01:16:12 The only thing that came from Iran is that PBD's here. Now I'm not sure what's happening. My mom and that are from there too. Okay. Well that's like, I'll stand by my statement. The only good thing from Iran. I'm kidding.
Starting point is 01:16:23 I'm having to say, I ran. You said you run. But. And I love his dad satan. I ran. You said, you won. But, and I love his dad when he's put this. So we're up that's our family. That's our people. But in all seriousness, who's aligned with Hamas? If you watch any interview by any, by BB Netanyahu or Benny Gantz or anyone that's running the, the IDF or anyone that's involved in the U.S. military,
Starting point is 01:16:45 they will, Israeli military, they will always compare Hamas to ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, those are their friends, and they're all backed by Iran. And the backdrop of what's going on in Iran is the Abraham Accords that was occurring under the Trump administration, and it's sad that they didn't really fully come to effect.
Starting point is 01:17:07 I think the majority of the Gulf state signed on to it, including UAE, Oman, several other countries, but the next big domino to fall was gonna be Saudi Arabia. And that was the big thing, and that was the number one thing Iran was basically fearful of, is that their biggest nemesis, premise, I mean, I would describe Saudi and Iran nemesis, foe in that region,
Starting point is 01:17:30 Sunni Shia, different countries, different ideologies, was basically gonna join the Abraham Accords and align themselves with Israel over Iran. Iran has this, you know, there's love, hate relationships, they have this hate, hate relationship with Israel. Israel has no interest in going to war with Iran. They have no interest in going to war with any of these countries. They just don't want to be killed for basically being Jewish.
Starting point is 01:17:53 So there's a famous phrase that they say in that region of the world from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. What does that actually look like? That's what what's her name said this week that she got censured, right? Got censured. Um, Tileep. Yes.
Starting point is 01:18:08 She just got, she was, she was going, uh, Ilhan, she tweeted that. She tweeted that. Yeah, and then Ilhan Omar was, was screaming on the, on the house floor. And then Tileep, she was, she was crying. Uh, so which, which actually leads me to the, to the next statement here. You brought up Bernie Sanders. He even, he's on, he was saying for people don't understand what the word free means in there. Free means the only.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Right. From the River to the sea, Palestine will be free. Palestine will be the only. And the way you are an only is you will eliminate. And look, I have such empathy for innocent victims, especially kids. And anyone Jewish, not Jewish, that doesn't empathize with dead Palestinian kids, you're heartless. And I feel bad for especially kids. And anyone, Jewish, not Jewish, that doesn't empathize with dead Palestinian kids,
Starting point is 01:18:47 you're heartless. And I feel bad for these kids. But the people that are killing those kids, quite literally is Hamas. There was a new story that came out from the IDF that they basically found a Palestinian boy scouts troop that within the troop, they were shooting missiles from the troop.
Starting point is 01:19:04 Make no mistake about it. Hamas is a death cult, much like ISIS, Al-Qaeda, any of these guys, and they have one mission. They want to kill as many Jews as possible. That is their mission. That is on there. What was the... Charter. That was on their charter.
Starting point is 01:19:18 That was on their charter. Just take them at their word. So I think over 50% of what's the Gazin government is Hamas. This is who they elected. It's horrible. It's sad. It's what they're going on.
Starting point is 01:19:34 But as far as the ceasefire that Bernie Sanders is calling for Netanyahu has basically said, they still have 200 of our hostages, children, four-year-olds, babies, women, raped, beheaded. This is not just, oh, we're fighting a war, we're trying to shoot and drop bombs away. They're beheading children. Yeah, but this is who you're fighting against.
Starting point is 01:19:53 So I feel bad for innocent victims, but when you're shooting missiles from a Boy Scouts troop, yeah. What should the idea do? Last part, Bernie Sanders, there's gonna be sort of a reckoning to come to in the left wing progressive of the Democratic caucus because Bernie Sanders is basically the grandfather of the father of the squat. You know, AOC, Rashida Tileb, Ilhan Omar, they follow his lead.
Starting point is 01:20:22 They're going to have a reckoning right now because obviously they do not see eye to eye on this. And I don't know if you guys have been seeing, it's not just it's not just Bernie. Barack came out and said something as well about both sides being, you know, kind of that fault that he said that he didn't do that. He blamed people. And I don't know. He blamed people. He blamed people.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Yeah, but that's that's Barack Obama. That's a highly articulate blaming message on the H. The last war matters. He said he was saying something. That's a highly articulate blaming message on the H. The Hamas war matters. He said he was saying something. Nobody's hands are clean. Like I just said time. He was kind of blaming both sides. What my point is, we've been seeing guys
Starting point is 01:20:53 for the past couple, you know, past couple of weeks. There's been like, have you seen the protest and London and in Washington? So here's my question, Adam. There's millions of people out there all protesting what's happening in the world. Not all those people are supporting Hamas. So what are they out there because they're caring
Starting point is 01:21:12 about the innocence of Palestine. I think a lot of them are doing that. Not all of them are pro-Hamas, but then at the same token on the flip side, George Soros, a Jewish guy, is one of the ones that's funding all these Hamas, pro these Hamas protests in the United States, which is, it's kind of weird for me. And then here's a unique situation that I realized too.
Starting point is 01:21:33 All those same people, this is what's hilarious. All those same leftist people, Pat, that we're calling Trump supporters domestic terrorists are the same ones protesting and supporting Hamas and ripping down all the, all the, all the kidnap babies and all that stuff. Isn't that weird? The Trump supporters were domestic terrorists, but then now those kids and those colleges are like,
Starting point is 01:21:53 yeah, Hamas, what a weird scenario. This conflict really exposed the shit out of these fake ass people. And then another point, what is the death toll top? Do we have any, what's an average right now? they had $10,000 or $11,000? Well, if you believe Hamas is numbers. Well, no. Well, if you believe Hamas. No, I'm just saying, see, like, whatever, give me a number, what's the number of people
Starting point is 01:22:17 that list this assume? If, what is it? That's not Gaza death toll top, you well. Okay, that's you one. So here's my question. And you ain't called it a choice. And I think it does number. I've asked. We're getting the numbers from you well. Okay, that's you went. So here's my question. You ain't called it a choice. And I've asked I've asked we're getting the numbers from Hamas.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Oh, okay, let's say I hear the question. How much credibility do you give Hamas? Oh, no, you're missing the point completely. I'm not stop any number. Pick a number, 5,000 people dead. How many Hamas, where's the Hamas death toll over kids? And when is that, that's I think that a lot of these people are angry at them.
Starting point is 01:22:46 It's where do we say, okay, yes, they shoot from, you know, kids and they use kids, okay, I get that. But how many, how many is it worth killing? Been asking that question on the last 34 podcasts, I get it. And I understand what you're asking. And you're saying, you don't know if the credibility's there with the numbers, because it's really good. Well, there's no credibility with Hamas.
Starting point is 01:23:05 But I'll say this, Israel has basically, look, this isn't my opinion, this is not neither's opinions. The IDF, Netanyahu, who is basically said, get the fuck out of the big cities of Gaza. We are coming from Hamas, we are destroying Hamas, head south, head towards Egypt. They set up a refugee camp, get the hell out of there. That's not my opinion. They are coming for Hamas. That's not even debatable. Now the tactics that they're
Starting point is 01:23:31 using, debatable, okay, whether they should be going in into the tunnels and these 300 miles of tunnels, whether they should be bombing, that's perfectly legitimate argument. But for people that are still sitting in the cities and they're like, why are they bombing me? Get out! They are coming for the terrorists. Period. The Toys are us, Toy Book is here, packed with holiday wishlist goodies and amazing deals. Saved big on toys from Paw Patrol, squish mellows, Barbie, Lego, Disney, and more of the brand's
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Starting point is 01:24:53 Yeah, that's the point. Just don't where to go. You're going back to what you're saying is Egypt is also saying no. You know, if they leave that place then what? What are you going to do? Where are you going to go? Who's going to take them? What's a place for them to go to?
Starting point is 01:25:09 Go ahead. No, well, this is the whole premise is that like They want this continual war. Why don't you and who Hamas or Palestine Palestinians? I would say that any of the alignment in the Radical Islamic terroric factions want this Because they don't want peace with Israel They want constant war and they're willing to use Palestinians as dead bodies for fodder because if there's peace between there's a two-state solution which They tried to happen under Clinton of the Oslo Accords Then all of a sudden the boogie man's gone. So why won't Egypt open up to corridor?
Starting point is 01:25:45 Why won't Jordan open up to corridor? Why won't they do this? Okay, do you think Israel wants this war? They need to rid themselves of terrorists. They use the analogy of the day. If ISIS was hanging out in Mexico, chopping off dead babies' heads, would we even think twice in America to go get ISIS? Yeah, but here's my thing.
Starting point is 01:26:03 This is where from a military tactical stance right now. Okay, they came and they attacked. Your first order of business right now is secure your shit because that one day it failed horribly. There's no, there's still no excuse and they still haven't answered. Nobody has, not their intelligence, not our intelligence. John Kirby's like, that's not a question to ask right now
Starting point is 01:26:25 Number one is protect Israel boom now because of all dude. They've done damage, bro They've done damage now you send in special forces go really go get those hostages They're not you know, it's just not wipe everybody out and good luck find the place to stay now You can be more methodical more tactical and set up Hey, not get the F out because we're killing everybody. That's not now that attitude at them now has to change because You'll you'll flatten Gaza. Let's not let's not be us each other. Have you seen the videos? It's not good and not F Hamas. I saw Hamas. They were sniping people pat that were trying to leave Did you see that Hamas was shootinging people Pat that were trying to leave. Did you see that?
Starting point is 01:27:05 Hamas was shooting women and children that were trying to flee. Okay, so let's stay there for a second. Yeah, that's why they're hardly doing that. What do you mean? Because they're terrorists, Adam. Okay, hold on, but this is who you're dealing with. No, I just, the Israel saying leave.
Starting point is 01:27:19 And Hamas is like, I will kill you. So they're screwed. Try to leave. A lot of people have no hope. Those people are even more. And that's a few tried to leave. A lot of people have no hope. Those people are even more. And that's why I have such empathy for these people. They're getting bombed from one side. The terrorists that are in control are shooting them. What effort hope do these people have? And the majority of them are kids
Starting point is 01:27:36 and women. I agree with you. What are they going to do? I have so much effort. I'm sorry to say it. Here's the thing. And there's always, you have accountability. Who elected Hamas? Adam, what other choice do people have? They have nothing. They could have elected the PLA. They have no guns, they have no choice.
Starting point is 01:27:52 They have nothing. So my point is now that Israel has showed their force, now they know, shut down Israel, like we should be doing with our, shut everything down and go methodically strategically go after his Adam. You can't just say, terrorism. It's terrorism are gonna go, because you have to go find the actual
Starting point is 01:28:11 Hamas. You can't just go, okay, listen, Hamas is in this bucket of eggs. So we're gonna break every egg to kill that one. No, you can't do that, bro. That's, that's where the moral part and that's why millions of people
Starting point is 01:28:22 are in the streets going, yo, listen, these people can't protect them So they have nothing they have nowhere to go. So if you just have a blanket statement of terrorism It's not fair. You know, you know what's crazy When you think about when you think about Obama this article if you pull up this article rap By ABC type in the title nobody's hands are clean. Obama breaks with Biden.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Type in, Obama breaks with Biden. Okay, so check this out. Here's, yeah, that one right there. Okay, zoom in a little bit so we can read it more. So the title at the top is what? Nobody's hands are clean. Obama breaks with Biden. How do you support Israel?
Starting point is 01:28:59 Call the way down. Well, you'll see a part where, you know, a little bit lower. There are people right now who are done, who have nothing to do with Hamas. Obama said that, that, that, that, well you'll see a part where uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uhroated uh... support for israel and ally as it's war with hamas rages on in the middle east so by the way these guys are not on the same page to get not at all obama and biden are not on the same page obama is undermining the existing president something rarely happens that a republican does to republican like this is exactly why people respect at least bush
Starting point is 01:29:42 because guess what bush that when it was, never took a swipe at Obama, even to Obama every day blamed, I've inherited this administration. Now, Obama's doing it to his own VP because he needs the attention. So why is he doing this? This is very, very, very bad politically, because he's gonna need Obama to come campaign for him,
Starting point is 01:30:02 and this is definitely not the way of campaigning. You know what this tells me if I'm a campaign strategist? This tells me Obama's already talking to other people to figure out a way to replace him, it could be Kamala, it could be Nusom, but it's not looking like Biden's gonna be there next year. Anyway, let's go to the next story. I'm gonna say to continuing here.
Starting point is 01:30:16 Just for the people that are listening, Rob, I'm not sure if I wanna do the Tuesday name that you have, but we'll talk about that you and I afterwards. But I'm excited about Thursday, because when you find out who we have next Thursday, next Thursday is going to be very, very interesting. That's all I'll tell you. So you find out who to guess start. Okay. Tonight, GOP debate, five candidates qualified for the Miami GOP debate with Duckburgen missing out. And he actually
Starting point is 01:30:42 had good policies, but he will not be there tonight. These are the five names that'll be there tonight that you're looking at. Obviously, Governor DeSantis, you have Nikki Haley, Chris Christie, I think Tim Scott made it, and Vivek is gonna be there as well. So it's gonna be five of them, more talk time for them, which is great. They met the criteria,
Starting point is 01:30:59 including the donor polling requirements, as well as signing the pledges to support Republican party's eventual nominee, former President Trump, who skipped the first two debates, easily met the donor and polling requirements, but refused to sign the party pledges, requires required for qualification. He has scheduled a campaign rally for the same night.
Starting point is 01:31:17 He's actually in Miami right now. President Trump is, there's a few other things going on with this as well. King Griffin, GOP donor, multi-billion, I don't know what his net worth is, but I'm going to say something between 20 to 40 billion dollars. He originally said he was going to commit to 100 million dollars or so, I think, to the Santas. Recently, he came out saying good things about Nikki Haley, okay?
Starting point is 01:31:39 Days before the debate, GOP donor, King Griffin praised Nikki Haley, okay, this is Citadel CEO, a prominent Republican donor support, strong support for Nikki Haley's foreign policy just days before the third Republican presidential debate of Miami, Griffin praised Haley saying she has the foreign policy experience that we need right now. There's a lot of strength from her. Griffin's engagement of Haley is seen as a potential setback
Starting point is 01:32:04 for Florida's governor Ron DeSantis who was facing competition from Haley. I think they're at the same number right now by the way, we're looking to two of them. Yes, I think they're at the same number, 16%, 16% although DeSantis just got an endorsement from the governor of Iowa, which was a big deal. But yeah, that's what we got going on here right now.
Starting point is 01:32:22 Go ahead Tom. Yeah, on the numbers, just a backup what you're saying, a new hamster. Haley's 19% DeSantis is 10. She almost has them two to one. Oh, wow. But a Trafalgar poll that just came out, Haley's picked up three points in Iowa, and now it's 18 for DeSantis and 15 for Haley. And NBC on the heels of that took its own poll and said it's 16 16. So the war has been good for Nikki Haley because the underpulling with her a lot of people see her as strong, unformed policy.
Starting point is 01:32:55 And so this is helping her. And also DeSantis hasn't been with any new real message. He's been very defensive for the last two, three weeks. Adam. So, do we want to go through predictions here, what we think is going to have? Yeah, let's do that. Because it's going to be next few hours. So, if you want to pull it up, so you guys go first, I'll go last. Go ahead, Adam. Sure.
Starting point is 01:33:14 Well, I think if you look at the polls, Governor Ronda Santos certainly has a leg up on what's going on out there. But you're so funny. You're so funny. By the way, do you actually think, before we go to this, do you actually think any of the moderators are gonna bring up bootkate in the debate?
Starting point is 01:33:32 Wow. I think they will. I think they're gonna bring something. You think it's gonna be a moderator or you think it's gonna be an opponent? I think someone's gonna bring it up. It's probably more likely to be an opponent. But I think you'd be completely blind and immune to the fact that it's been
Starting point is 01:33:47 circulating the internet. Ever since he did that one interview, I remember on that one podcast with that one big guy. At least the guy gave a nice gift. At least the guy tried to give a $1,200 suit. Like you're, you like DeSantis. It was a great interview. I'm here because of that. Yeah, absolutely. But look, for me, for me, the whole thing with him was, here's an opportunity for self-deprecation, laugh at yourself, stop walking on eggshells, feeling like you have to be perfect
Starting point is 01:34:10 because America doesn't relate to perfect candidates. You're too perfect. Show some imperfections, show your human being, show like you're the rest of us, and I feel, if you read the comments of the podcast we did with them last week, 98% of comments says, I like this because we ask about what kind of music do you like?
Starting point is 01:34:29 What is this? What is that? But I think it was a miss on the boot gate issue. It is what it is. Go ahead. You were saying. Well, look, I like to say that he was here. We've met him a few times.
Starting point is 01:34:37 Clearly, the boots are giving him a couple inches. You want us to pick the winners of the debate? Who do you think is going to be the winner? So I'll just say that after tonight, Tim Scott and Chris Christie will both jump out of the race. They're done. They have no chance. Keep it moving. I think Chris Christie, this will be his final hurrah tonight as far as political career goes. He's not the president. The fact that, look, we're talking about whether Ron DeSantis is 510 or 6 foot of gives a shit. Meanwhile, Chris Christie is still somehow 380 pounds. And he's getting a little bit of a...
Starting point is 01:35:09 Come on. So are you gonna put the names as we go? As far as the losers go, Tim Scott, Chris Christie, I think Chris Christie will basically go all in on just basically trying to torpedo the Trump campaign. It won't happen. It'll land some jokes won't happen. You know my guy, Vivek, is gonna show up. He's a fucking beast. I think he's going to be the winner of the
Starting point is 01:35:27 debate. Nikki Haley is solid. I think she's a potential VP nominee if her and Trump can work something out. And to Santhus, you know, God bless you. Great governor. I just don't think you're ready to be present right now. So I got the back as the winner. I got Tim Scott, even Chris Christie is the loser. And boot gate will happen. What's the other thing? Who's anti is real involvement? What's that question? Who anti? Yeah. So which of the candidates is going to come out and be anti US involvement in Israel? Zero. And which of the candidates will come out and be anti more funding towards you. That's, uh, a weird. Yeah, but back. We'll take back.
Starting point is 01:36:06 So the winner, I think it's going to be the Santos. Look how Adam, this is how you do it. Fast and furious. I think he's going to come up because Pat, he's used to it. He's been, there's the third time he's going to be on stage. He, you know, third time or also in a real stage. But I'm going to say, but him, they've been in front of big crowds. He's been used to just little rooms.
Starting point is 01:36:27 That's why I think he kills in small areas, not like that. The loser, Tim Scott, who brings up boot gate first, Chris Christie, whose anti-Israel involvement, nobody's gonna say anti-Israel, but I think Vivek will say that everybody needs to kind of chill out. Nobody will ever say he's an isolationist. He's, yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 01:36:53 Who's anti-Ukraine? Vivek 1000%. He'll put an X on the Ukraine flag. And who takes the most shots at Trump, Chris Christie. Yeah. He'll take shots of whipped cream. He'll just eat on stage. Some similarities here with my loud friend.
Starting point is 01:37:08 You know what? I resent that because I love you. And I don't say nothing about your charts. Touching my freaking leg all the time. But whatever, go ahead Tom. Tom almost got into fight with. With G.O. Terrible.
Starting point is 01:37:17 Oh, and he's gonna go ahead Tom. No, I meant that nice. It's just a very, you're very animated. I have energy Tom before I die. I want to, I want to let her. You're very amped up today. Give it to us Tom. Enough for play nice. It's just your very, your very enemy. I have energy time before I die. I want to, I want to let her go. You're very, very amped up today. Give it to us, Tom. Dead people. Enough for play, guys.
Starting point is 01:37:28 Let's go. So, winner, I think is shit. It's going to be Haley. I think a combination of war and kind of US sovereignty is going to play to her strength tonight. I think the loser will be Scott, because there's nothing to see here. I think who brings up boot gate first?
Starting point is 01:37:45 I agree. I think it's going to be one of the candidates. So I think it'll be Haley subtly or Christy very boldly. Who's anti Israel? I don't think any of our anti-Israel anti-Ukraine, the Vex can say, what are we doing here? Who takes the most shots at Trump? Chris Christie all day long because DeSantis is going to run for it. And I've got two predictions that we're gonna see.
Starting point is 01:38:06 I believe Christie and Haley are gonna gang up on Vivek in a very big way on the experience thing. I think DeSantis is gonna try desperately to look informed policy and everything else is covered up here. But I look for some fireworks with Christie and Haley going after Vivek. Yeah, and I'm pretty much there as well.
Starting point is 01:38:27 Here's what I think is going to be happening today. I think one, Vivek came in strong on the first debate, okay? And he realized he became enemy of the state number one. Everybody targeted him. Everybody went after him. So on the second debate, he came out and he said, what? Well, look, you know, I'd like to find a way to unite and they're like, no, bro, you went from calling us out
Starting point is 01:38:44 to now trying to be a friend. We're not going to play that game. He said we were all button paid for. That's right. We were all bottom paid for. So you know what VMAC is sitting down thinking right now? Look, man, I'm just going to go back to my strategy of playing offense. I'm anti-establishment. The rest of you guys are establishment in his eyes.
Starting point is 01:39:00 And to be honest with you, that makes sense for him to be the only anti-establishment guy. So even though I think he will be the winner, I think the media is gonna say, Nikki Haley's the winner. That's what I think. Loser, put everybody else in the camp, you know, Tim Scott, and Tim Scott, to me, is just not a high energy guy like him.
Starting point is 01:39:18 I think he's could have a job, but he's not a one. To me, he's like somebody on the team, but not a one. He's somebody you want to be when you're starting five, when you're going somewhere. I think he's not gonna do well. I think Chris is gonna be entertaining as usual.
Starting point is 01:39:31 I think depending on what questions comes up and how the Santas handles himself, I think he could end up being a loser, okay? Oh. If he goes in doubling down on the foot fetish jokes that didn't land and talking about stuff like that, that it's just not gonna work, you're gonna be better off taking a different angle.
Starting point is 01:39:50 And by the way, cameras are gonna be on him nonstop of him walking and everyone in that audience will be recording him with their phones, everybody. You're gonna see Insta Stories galore on the way he walks. And I'm just curious to know what he's gonna be wearing. So we'll see what's gonna, what's going to do with that side. Who's going to bring up boot gate? I think boot gate's going to come up by Nikki Haley.
Starting point is 01:40:11 I don't think it's going to be Christie. I think Christie is a person that seems a little too close to the Santas. And I don't see why they wouldn't be. They share a common enemy. They both can't stand one guy, which they're unified. Christie and the Santas is an ideal unified team. Who's anti-Israel? I don't think anyone's going to be anti-Israel.
Starting point is 01:40:30 I think the only person that's capable of maybe kind of calling out a little bit of the B.S. Could be Vivek to say Netanyahu al-Assad, but I think the rest of them are going to play the card right. Who's anti-Ukrain funding? There's only one guy that'll make comments on that. That's going to be Vivek. Everybody else is gonna be, you know, Tim Scott. Well, it's a loan, it's not really this, and it's really that, he's gonna pay the money back,
Starting point is 01:40:51 it's not really just money we're giving him, and all this other stuff, and the last but not least, who's gonna take most shots at Trump? When the status was here, I don't think once he said the word Trump, he said him. Him, it wasn't Trump, he didn't drop the word Trump, so he won't do it because he needs the mega vote.
Starting point is 01:41:08 Vivek will not do it, Christy will do it because he's not winning anyway. So to him, it's like, I don't give a shit if I take shots. I don't think Tim Scott is part of his character to do it. I'll be interested to see if Haley will do it. So Christy's gonna be the one that's gonna be taking shots. Yes. This is a time, and I went and looked this up,
Starting point is 01:41:24 and it's called inheritance time. When you go from 12 to 10 candidates, there's not a lot of inheritance of support. But when you go down to the final four, there's an inheritance of political support. And Scott is worth three points in Iowa and three points in New Hampshire. Christie's worth four points in New Hampshire
Starting point is 01:41:44 and maybe two points in Iowa. Pat, you have a good read on these kind of things. Who do you think inherits that? Because it's so close. The Santas are going to get Christy. The Santas you get Christy, okay? And Tim Scott, Tim and Nikki Haley got into it, didn't they? I think Tim's curtain. I think Tim's going to get behind what called a Decentre's as one. Okay. And guess who goes behind Vivek? Nobody.
Starting point is 01:42:08 Yeah, he's behind me. Nobody. Decent, the hardest job is Vivek. Look, this week, Nikki Haley reached out. Tim Scott reached out. Chris Christie reached out. About wanting to be on the podcast. They all reached out before Decentre's that was on.
Starting point is 01:42:24 And then all of a sudden they all got busy. There's nothing they're gonna get on in South Florida that's gonna get more eyeballs than being on this podcast. Let's face it, I mean, we're gonna get them democibles. I respect the census having the brass to come here finally doing it, he kept his word. I respect it.
Starting point is 01:42:39 And it was the first life podcast he ever did that in a new pre-record, they didn't say these topics are off, you got to salute the fact that he's doing that. Hayley's not doing that. Tim Scott's not doing that. Christie's not doing that. Vivek is doing that with his eyes closed all day long. You know what you got to do?
Starting point is 01:42:55 I respect Vivek who's got the brass to go talk to anybody, any place. He's the type of guy that you say, I'm gonna whoop your ass and you know what he say? Tell me the place. That's him. Yeah, yeah. He's the guy that guy that you say, I'm gonna whoop your ass and you know what he say? Tell me the place. Let's go. That's him. He's the guy that you don't say,
Starting point is 01:43:09 I'm gonna whoop your ass, he's gonna say, really, where, name the time and place. Yeah. I'm coming, that's how he is, right? I'm on my way. And America is attracted to that. All the other candidates, they're not like that. That includes Christie.
Starting point is 01:43:21 And I would say they're still doing the old school way of campaigning. I've been on Fox a couple of times this last week and I get on for three or four minutes and you give that answer and you're like, what did you really pick up from what I had to say anyways? Nothing. I want to have a one-hour conversation with a person, to our conversation with the person to see where you're at, what are you thinking about, who are you? Anyways, we'll see what's gonna happen. Gank tomorrow, this is what we got going on tomorrow. I got two podcasts I'll be doing one in the morning. That's not gonna be live the one in the morning will be a
Starting point is 01:43:50 Special podcast will doing with three folks to that Detransitioned and one whose kit almost went through the trial and one went from a male to female To man to girl to man the The other one went from girl, by the way, I said it correctly, you know, from man to woman to man. The other one is woman to man to woman, detransition back both of them. Correct.
Starting point is 01:44:14 We'll find out why in a tomorrow afternoon, we will do another home team podcast to discuss exactly what happened at the debate tonight. And we may be there tonight. It might happen, may be, may be there tonight. It might happen, maybe. It may be a traffic process. Take care, everybody. Bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye. you

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