PBD Podcast - Home Team With Liz Wheeler | PBD Podcast | Ep. 309

Episode Date: October 3, 2023

On this episode of the PBD Podcast, Liz Wheeler joins the show. Liz is an American conservative political commentator, author, and podcast host. From 2015 to 2020, Wheeler hosted One America News Netw...ork's Tipping Point with Liz Wheeler, where she was known for her finale segment, "Final Point." Purchase Liz's new book “Hide Your Children: Exposing the Marxists Behind the Attack on America's Kids": https://amzn.to/3Qb4AvT Follow Liz on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3PIqcxU Subscribe to Liz's YouTube channel: https://bit.ly/3F0NdY1 Connect With Experts On Minnect: https://app.minnect.com/ Vault to the top. Be your best. Feel your best. Achieve your best. Vault Brain drinks will unlock your brain to help you be your best you. Try the new Vault Drink today! www.vaultdrinks.com Visit our website: https://valuetainment.com/ Subscribe to our channel: http://bit.ly/2aPEwD4 Subscribe to: Adam Sosnick -  @ValuetainmentMoney  Vincent Oshana -  @ValuetainmentComedy  Tom Ellsworth -  @bizdocpodcast  Want to get clear on your next 5 business moves? https://valuetainment.com/academy/ Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQL Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I Did you ever think you were making it? I feel I'm so sick. It takes we let it go I know this life man for me Yeah, why would you bet on the life when we got bet David value came in giving values contagious This world on your panoras. We can't no value that hate it. I'd run homie look what I become Okay, episode number three or nine guys, we are only 691 away from a thousand. That's just basic math right there baby. How long will it take us to get to a thousand at this pace?
Starting point is 00:00:43 Six years the way we're going, probably something like that to get to a thousand. But today's a special podcast because we have an old friend back here with us. Liz Wheeler, she has her own show called The Liz Wheeler Show you can catch as well as a new book that just came out that we'll talk about. Height, your children, exposing the Marxist
Starting point is 00:01:02 behind the attacks on America's kids. Liz, how are you? I'm good. Thanks for having me. Of course. It's great to have you here again. We got a lot of things to talk about, specifically with kids. We'll get into that as well.
Starting point is 00:01:15 And a lot of other issues. But you know what I want to do, just to get everyone's reactions first. I want to know if your reaction to this clip is the same as mine. OK. And Rob, I know have you seen this clip yet or no? I don't know. I don't know if it reaction to this clip is the same as mine, okay? And Rob, I know, have you seen this clip yet or no? I don't know if you've seen it yet. Rob, if you can play this clip, I want to see if the audience understands this clip. And I don't want us to say anything.
Starting point is 00:01:36 I just want us to see what our reaction is going to be to this video. It's a very good cartoon with Superman in it, and that's the Twin Towers. Okay. Just see if you get the messaging in it go for Superman saves the day again Oh my God. Oh, I I wouldn't mean I have the message. I know it right now. Did you get it? Or did you get it? There's already explosives in the building. How did it fall down? By the way, this is the thing about
Starting point is 00:02:08 Carte's comedy in the day. It says so much in one thing. They're able to say things and then we get to say, what did I mean by this? Oh my God, yeah. Superman couldn't save the day. Wow. I saw this video, dear, that's it, listen,
Starting point is 00:02:19 I'm gonna be wanting to share with the audience to see what reactions are gonna be. Five seconds and it just go on and think about what they're saying. Maybe the message is even Superman can't save the day. Oh wow. We need a book. It's like Lance Armstrong. It's not about the bike we can have in your 9-11 book.
Starting point is 00:02:35 It's not about the planes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's an interesting joke right there. But okay. All right, so we got a lot of topics to discuss today. One, there's a lot of flooding going on. I'm trying to find out this flooding
Starting point is 00:02:47 that's going on all over the world. Is God pissed off at us? Is Mother Nature upset? Is it climate change or is somebody playing with something? The people of power? Are they using something to create all this stuff? We'll talk about that too. Lebron James' wife and two associates
Starting point is 00:03:04 named in a federal PED investigation. Some are claiming this is a similar story to what happened with Payton in the back. Maybe this is the way where she's getting the PEDs and he's been on growth hormone. There's some stories out there saying he could be the next land storm. Who knows? We'll talk about that. Next, Liz Wheeler had some choice words about Tristan Tate, and we have to talk about that on the today's podcast, and we got to get to the bottom of it because it was something on call for, but some support what she had to say, and that's a friendly debate. We'll have that conversation today.
Starting point is 00:03:36 So next, Representative Gates, okay, not Bill Gates, but Matt Gates, says he'll try to remove Speaker Kevin McCarthy from his post. This week it wasn't good. It was very ugly. It'll be interesting to see what happens there. The world's favorite person, some would say the most annoying person in the world, Megan Merkel almost made a run for. Senate, there was some talks about her one. Can you see being an office?
Starting point is 00:04:02 Oprah too. Yeah, Oprah. That would be AOC 2.0. They'd be two of them. Okay. If that was a take about her one. Can you see being an office? Oprah too. Yeah, Oprah. That would be AOC 2.0. We had, they'd be two of them. Okay. If that was a take place. Governor Newsom did a couple things this week that got people in California wondering whether he's leaning to the left or center or right or what's he up to.
Starting point is 00:04:17 But he appointed a new Senate seat. Rhonda Santas tells Bill Mar he can beat Donald Trump. RFK thinking about running as an independent Ford warns UAW strike could end up resulting in 500,000 supplier employee layoffs Governor Newsom signs a fast food worker bill that the minimum wage for them goes to $20. That means a 16 year old kid working I'm McDonald's making 20 bucks an hour 40 grand a year 40 grand. I was paid I was paid three 20 bucks an hour 40 grand a year 40 grand I was paid I was paid 375 an hour at Burger King maybe 425 an hour I got a 50 cent race from Hagen Dazs. You're gonna take it to 20 bucks I love to go back to the future. Oh yeah, so can I like I am saying yeah, I would be and Bob's big But I can't get my money back. Yeah, Taylor Swift
Starting point is 00:05:00 Obviously her career has changed ever she's ever since she started dating this Travis Kelsey guy He changed her life ever since I dated you know Now people know who she is now they know who she is because her career was on the on the like on the decline in embarrassing And we'll talk about her dominance in NFL and we got a couple other stories what happened with Jamal Brown The you know the bizarre response John Bowman Jamal Bowman who he we killed what did he pull the fire alarm right which he thought opens doors right which by the way everybody school principal I got a school principal yeah that no that's and that's a fact that's such a trip to was bracing himself yeah you know what I could say he could say something
Starting point is 00:05:39 like look at what do you what do you expect from me I've been hanging around teenagers my entire life I don't think fault. It's not my fault. I drank you. Now, we've got a better way. And then we got a couple other stories about Haley. Nikki Haley will cover that. She got a special gift this week. Big food, big pharma, companies bet on snacking
Starting point is 00:05:56 just as weight loss, drugs, boom. Finance, experts, warned of bloody Sunday for Americans and 60% of Americans are living still. Paycheck to paycheck as inflation hits, workers, wages. I'm going to start off with the first video and start off with you Liz because I think it's a prob with the book that you just wrote. So, you know, a lot of people around the world and some people in the West are trying to get the Western ideas, not the Western conservative ideas, but the Western liberal ideas to
Starting point is 00:06:27 people around the world. And they tried to do a LGBTQ strike in Lebanon. I don't know if you saw the results, what happened there. This is what took place when they did a LGBTQ rally protesting in Lebanon, if you can just play this clip. That's not look like the people of the city were happy. And so these guys, those guys are protesting for the LGBT, they're protesting for the LGBTQ community.
Starting point is 00:07:04 So, you know, so they're not too happy about it. And then I saw this other clip and then I'll come right to, if you can play this other clip, this is a book that's being sold, LGBTQ book for children, has a section titled, How to Argue with Muslims, right? How to argue with Muslims if you can click on this, go for it. Muslims. And they want to be inclusive.
Starting point is 00:07:24 How to argue with a Muslim in this book is gay Wow how to argue with Muslims Please guys get this out get this out for every single parent. I mean this is not just a few books This is a whole ideology We pushed on the children and now they're told to argue with Muslims. You know, you can stop right there. Why are they doing this, Liz? Why is this happening? It's a religious belief for them. It's an ideology. The the term inclusion or the term tolerance is never something that they wanted. They never wanted just the right to be able to live with
Starting point is 00:08:04 whoever they wanted or love whoever they wanted or even marry whoever they wanted. They never wanted just the right to be able to live with whoever they wanted or love whoever they wanted or even marry whoever they wanted. They always wanted to force this ideology on us. There was a story out of California from last week where a student out there was suspended from school for five days for quote unquote misgendering. And I mean, that's not an isolated incident, but it does make it pretty clear that
Starting point is 00:08:25 they weren't just, that the ideology, the LGBTQIA lobby is not just, oh, let us live our lives, make sure that we're safe and not, not persecuted, that they want to force other people, especially Christians or religious people, Muslims, they want to force people to embrace that and celebrate that. Otherwise, they're going to be socially ostracized. You know why a part of this I like is 74% of Muslims vote Democrat. Okay, kill today, which doesn't make sense for me on why they do. But they do. You know, it's content like this that if the left is watching, just so they know the Muslims are watching,
Starting point is 00:08:59 we have a Muslim community that watches the podcast. To know they're targeting your community, your denomination, your religion, they're targeting you now to explain how to do that. It's shameless at this point. Not only are they trying to go to Muslim countries to bring that ideology to their kids, at the same time they're putting in the books,
Starting point is 00:09:19 and it's more things to be thinking about to reconsider what way you vote your leaders because the right is not sitting there saying let's indoctrinate your kids. At least if there's one thing like, I remember the tipping point when Joe Rogan and Elon Musk were sitting there saying, you know what, if you want to save the country vote Republican, I just finished, it was just that came out and there's a chapter where he talks about that time, I don't know if you're there yet.
Starting point is 00:09:41 When he talks about, okay, there's a part where he talks about, you know, you gotta, if you wanna save the country, vote Republican, Musk has been a left his entire life. I mean, his old thinking's been about saving the environment, but now those policies, a lot of people that were on the left who have kids going to school going through this, they're experiencing the time. What do you think about when you see a story like this?
Starting point is 00:10:01 Well, if Lebanon and what, you know, they're putting in books on how to argue with Muslims. Well, Lebanon, it just goes to show you that when you have a homogeneous, in other words, vastly similar, you know, culture and crowd, when you come in with just a lightning rod issue like this that is so diametrically opposed,
Starting point is 00:10:21 I mean, the majority, let's just say one to 10, the majority of the country over there is like about an eight in their agreement and in their intensity and you come in here like a three, you know, you know, I'll translate the, I'll translate the, what were they speaking there? Arabic? Arabic. I'll translate the Arabic for you. You know, can I to hear before I bloody your other eye, you know, it's basically or before I take your head off. So you don't know how to spoke Arabic, those. I think my translation is pretty close. So on the first hand is you're kind of crazy whether if you were Jewish or you were Christian
Starting point is 00:10:56 or you were Mormon that to come in and to do something so, you know, ostracizing on one side like that. you cannot expect that. It's almost like he's set in there to be a sacrificial lamb so that they can get the B-roll. Oh, you know, this LGBT person is being persecuted in some other country. It's almost like it's triggering effect. And then the book, I don't think they understand what they're dealing with. If they thought that the Glendale moms, those brave heroes, I call them, the Armenian moms that were peacefully protesting, and then it got really big at the schools in Glendale.
Starting point is 00:11:33 If they thought that was bad, then show up in a real Muslim community with that book and wait what happens, because they'll come out of the woodwork. You know, Muslims are not good with LGBTQ. They'll take you to a tall building and teach you to base jump. Which is, you wanna go first? Well, I was just gonna say too, the hypocrisy of it. Listen, I'm pretty sure you guys have seen it.
Starting point is 00:11:53 These books that they're pushing on the children, they won't even let fathers, like that gentleman in Texas, read the book out loud at a school board meeting because they're like, this is inappropriate. Think of the hypocrisy path of- Oh, do you have that video? Can you play that? Find that video.
Starting point is 00:12:09 We watched it yesterday. Think about that. The pastor. The kids couldn't read it and digest this and live that life. But a grown man in front of all grown people, no children in there, he couldn't read the words that you're pushing on the kids. And like, it's supposed like,
Starting point is 00:12:23 I don't understand the ideology around like how that's normal. The kids could read it and digest it, but we can't hear it out loud in public. I have a school board meeting saying are we sure about this? Let me read it. Yeah, I'm sure. One of the books is called Flamer and the other one was called Who Wants My Hot Weiner. It's like, when are we going to stop with this? It's a really call who wants my hot.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Yeah, 100 times. I'm not joking, Pat. The book is called Who Wants My Hot Weiner? I'm looking at it right now. How did that book? How did that book is like appropriate? I'm not, hold on, I'm not joking, Pat. The book is called Who Wants My Hot Weiner? I'm looking at it right now. I'm really hard at that book. How did that book is like appropriate? I'm not, hold on, I'm telling you right now. It's your character, ask.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I'm sorry, who wants my weiner? It's in the book Flamer. The novel is called Flamer, and inside he goes, What's his name? What's the pastor's name? The pastor's name. I don't be the Texas School Board meeting. So what's really interesting while you're finding that?
Starting point is 00:13:01 That's interesting. What's really interesting about that book? I'm in Tuku. It's like, talk about that book in my book because Randy Weingartner of the American Federation of Teachers they partner with a book company that promotes that book in children's schools across the country So this is not an isolated incident. This is something that's being promoted from the top down Which you don't even have to be conservative as a parent to not want your child indoctrinated with that and listen he asked this question like question, like I go in because I want to know the actual reason why?
Starting point is 00:13:29 Is it because, you know, and all these elites are always preaching about overpopulated? Is it because all those kids that whole community aren't having any children? And that's just another method of us not having more people walking around sucking up all these natural resources. Bill Gates has always said, the biggest problem to our
Starting point is 00:13:45 community is overpopulation and why not have a whole Like generation of people that don't want to have kids. You want to you want to play this liberal quick and then I'm come come to you go for it This book here. It's called it's perfectly normal for students 10 and this book details all kinds of two images pictures of elderly people nude pictures of an individual who's in the wheelchair with his this out all of these two graphic images are made available in place at the fingertips of children this is immoral and asked to learn to allow children to be able to see this.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Not just one pause. This one played the one I just texted you. It's not this one because the next one Pat. He's reading. Yeah, I don't want I just take a moment. No, they they do you have to stop. Yeah, you have to stop. Don't talk. They're offended by it. Like they're offended. Your kindergarten. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I just texted it to you if you want to find it. But go ahead out of them until he finds it. Yeah, well, I think there's two separate issues going on right here. Number one, you know, the LGBTQ plus pie, you know, sign over the stuff, you know, the alphabet mafia as they call it. It's a very distinct group of individuals, like personally, as a straight guy, you know, often I growing up in Miami and South Beach, huge gay community. I have gay friends that would always joke with them like, hey, you guys, often I growing up in Miami and Southpeach, huge gay community.
Starting point is 00:15:05 I have gay friends that would always joke with them like, hey, you guys do your thing, or chicks for me. Yeah. But I will say there's a major difference between the L, the G, the B. Then there's the T. Yeah. So, the someone's sexual orientation, gay, straight, and America, I don't think that's any of our business. Now when they start getting involved in the kids, or when you're starting to get into hormone blockers
Starting point is 00:15:32 or pre-puberty blockers, and the T specifically, that's the biggest question. I think we've made major enroads to accepting gays in America, And the problem that I see in this Lebanese video is that they're condoning violence, which is basically hate crimes against someone different from you. And Tom made of a good point.
Starting point is 00:15:55 All right, where do you draw the line? All right, so you're Jewish. All right, we know what's happened to them. Christians, we know what's happened to them in the Middle East. Where does the line stop? You know, the famous poem, first they came for the gypsies.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I was in a gypsy, so I didn't say anything. Then they came for the Jews, I didn't say anything. Then they came for the Ukrainians. Oh, you're right. And then they came for me. The silent church. No one was there to say anything.
Starting point is 00:16:16 So, as much as I'm like, hey, I understand the agenda that's going on here, specifically in the tea community What is a man? What is a woman? Well, it's been pretty freaking clear forever But that's being different but gay people have been around forever lesbians have been around forever So it's a little disconcerning to see what's going on specifically and Lebanon final point You know, I it's kind of like the Lebanese versus the lesbians We all know that the Middle East I think Lebanon is the angriest country in the world.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Literally. Turkey's number two. And then Armenia's number three. Shout out to the Middle East. But going deeper in Lebanon, like if you want to go, you know, the C word, you know, that whole word, that there's a bigger issue at play here.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Because just like, you know, I don't, you know, America gets criticized for having regime change or trying to topple regimes or indoctrinate our values into the Eastern world. We're not doing that in Lebanon. They're doing their thing. They, they, you know, they're called the Paris of the Middle East, but they do have a major faction in their country that has run by extremists, which is known as Chesbola. So the cultural wars that's happening there, some say that there's a major, they've been trying to elect a president for a year.
Starting point is 00:17:33 There's political headwinds going on. There's economic major crisis going on. And some say that the people of power, especially the right wing extremists, are using this attack on the LGBT community to basically divert attention from the real problems that are going on. And that situation right there, obviously nobody here obviously condones any type of violence with anything. If you're gay, that's nobody cares, but notice Adam, look at how crazy that we've gotten
Starting point is 00:18:00 right now. That added to there, which I'm not condoning, but you know, that's called nipping it in the bud. Because once that starts, then it's the schools and the books and the kids and the, guess what? That's what's not going to happen over there. By the way, that's a regular Tuesday. That's on the around 10 years.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Yeah, all the time. That's a, and FYI, there's a reason when I asked the question, I said, why do Muslims move to Christian countries to raise their families? But Christians don't move to Muslim countries to raise their families? But Christians don't move to Muslim countries to raise their families. That's a question that we had on the debate here, very valid question, and that's one of the reasons, okay?
Starting point is 00:18:34 But I will tell you, one of the parts that you don't have to worry about, where they stand, they don't compromise what they stand for. They're straight up, this is us. You don't like it, You can take me to jail. You can do this. You can do that. I'm not sitting for some like this.
Starting point is 00:18:49 I want you to watch this video. Play this clip real quick. Play this clip real quick. Because this is the one. It's called, it's perfectly normal. I'll read some of this for you. It says, I've got a beat.
Starting point is 00:18:59 I'm yours. It becomes moist and slippery. And the clitoris becomes hard. I've got a bit of process becomes erect stiff and larger sometimes a bit of clear fluid that may contain a sperm comes out of the tip of the cheese and makes it wet.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Can we, sir, I'm sorry. I put it something I said. If you are a heroine, you're a schoolboy. Why should children be able to check it out of the school system? But you don't have a real reason why? Is it by you? You're in the school for me. Watch your children be able to check it out. I'm a school system. But you don't want me to read it. Why? Is it by the end of you?
Starting point is 00:19:28 Yes or no? You can't answer that question. You want to know why? Because for her, we're seeking. You can't say that it's wrong. And you don't want me to read the film because it exposes the truth. How dare you tell me to stop reading it?
Starting point is 00:19:41 If you don't want to hear it, why should the children have to see it? Pastry, your time is with this. Yeah, exactly. Thank you.'t want to hear it, why should the children have to see it? Pastry, your time is with this. Yeah, exactly. Oh, man, I love that guy. Thank you, Jesus. This is why Liz's book is so important because it is all about the kids. Yeah. Right. Like my biggest thing with the alphabet mafia, specifically the tea stuff, with the alphabet mafia, specifically the teeth stuff, is two things, it's stay away from the kids and stop grown-ass men being in woman sports. I don't think that's too hard to ask.
Starting point is 00:20:12 You have a child. I do. And I know that's a major concern of yours. But once someone's 18, they can make their own decisions. I mean, to a certain extent, I would probably argue that that's medical malpractice, since it's not treating, you can identify however you want, you can't force other people to do it.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I'm not saying I'm telling them. I'm saying, I'm saying. I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, I want to comment on the Lebanon video for a second, because there's a reason that that's going viral in the United States on social media. It's because that doesn't often happen here in the United States, as the LGBTQIA lobby. And I understand your argument separating the two, but for all intents and purposes, gay people and lesbians and bisexual people have not disconnected themselves from this lobby. You can argue that the transgender lobby has latched on to what they have accomplished, but they haven't, they haven't severed that and said, hey, we're going to be
Starting point is 00:20:57 separate except for the, what are they called, TERFs, the trans exclusionary radical feminists who are like the lesbians that are like, wait a second, wait a second, all of our women's rights are erased if there is transgender stuff. But the reason that video from Lebanon went viral here in the United States is because that's actually very uncommon. And the other side, the LGBTQIA lobby wants us to think of any criticism or any parental objection to the graphic stuff being taught to our children, they want us to think that that leads immediately
Starting point is 00:21:28 to violence. But let me tell you about one of the things that I had to read in the course of researching this book. This was the most disturbing thing I ever read. And we all work in the news. We read disturbing things all the time. I read the founding document of queer theory, which is, just like we learned a couple years ago
Starting point is 00:21:45 that when black children are told they're oppressed and white children are told they're racist, we realized, oh, that's the principles of critical race theory, right? We saw what was being taught before we recognized what its origin was. Well, the same with the transgender ideology, the stuff about gender being a spectrum, being disconnected from biological sex, that you are, what you identify, that's not just a random assortment of nonsense. That is, those are the principles of queer theory. It's also a neo-Marxist theory, like critical race theory. So when I'm writing about this and that, well, I should read the founding document.
Starting point is 00:22:13 I should read the source documents to see what they believe, what they want to happen, what they want to teach children, what their goal is with this theory, because this has become so prevalent in the last really eight years since 2015. So I pull up this document. It was written by a woman named Gail Rubin. She's alive and well in our country today.
Starting point is 00:22:32 She founded some lesbian bondage clubs in San Francisco, but she's in academia now. She wrote an essay called Thinking Sex, which like I said, is the founding document of queer theory. And in this document, she not only lays out these principles that gender is a spectrum that you can be a boy, if you want to be a boy, she actively defends child pornography. She defends outright pedophilia and tells people
Starting point is 00:22:59 that we, as a society, yeah, there it is, thinking sex, that we as a society will regret imprisoning the quote, men who love underage boys, pedophiles within 20 years. And she, men who love underage youth and advocates for the sexualization of children. So what we're seeing in the school classrooms when we see these graphic books, this is their goal. It's not inclusion, it's not tolerance, it's not, oh, your sexual orientation doesn't define who you are, you're much more than what you're sexually attracted to.
Starting point is 00:23:28 This is their ultimate goal. And if we don't listen to what they say and believe them, then our children are going to be Liz. Thank you for pointing this out. I had Rob real quick just take, find a picture of her slash. Yeah. That guy. So that's a her that's what is that? Yeah, she's a, she's a lesbian. Yeah, this is a woman. Gail Rubin is this a Born can we see some other images of the male this picture look like it's she's me know make Donald's go back to that picture What the vest yet Lou shirt does it not look like that a fastwood worth I mean that if you didn't tell me straight up That that was a woman. I would I there's a high likelihood I think that was just a fat ugly dude. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:24:07 She's not even transgender to my knowledge. I mean, go back to the thinking section as I look up. Seven, four years old, so she's. Look up what they say about child pornography. Yeah. February, 1977, shortly after the day, county vote a sudden concern, which child pornography
Starting point is 00:24:26 swept the national media in May, Chicago Tribune, ran a lured, four day series with three inch headlines. Rob, if you're on it, I actually can't read it. Yeah, three inch headlines, which claim to expose a national vice-ranger, or organize the lower your young boys into prostitution pornography, which section do you want us to read? It's a little bit further down. Go a little bit down.
Starting point is 00:24:46 She excuses it. She makes it seem like that this is a witch hunt against people that possesses, that's their first amendment right to possess, images that depict the sexual abuse of toddlers and children. Yeah, the law is produced by the child porn pandemic or ill-conceived, directed.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Child porn. Well, just to be clear, Liz, because they represent far reaching alterations in the regulation of sexual behavior and abrogate important sexual civil liberties. Like you have the right to possess child pornography. Partly anyone noticed as they swept through Congress and state legislatures with the exception of the North American man boy love association Americans.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Which by the way, it's a pedophile. Which by the way is a pedophile. It's a lobbyist for pedophile. Pedophilia or it's not they don't call them that anymore. It's minor attracted person. That's just the way of sanitizing. But is this shocking to you? This is absurd. This should be illegal.
Starting point is 00:25:35 It's disgusting. All iterations of that. You saw a sound of silence. I assume sound of freedom. Sound of freedom. Okay. Sound of silence. Part two.
Starting point is 00:25:43 I was like, no, I didn't. What is that? Sound of freedom. Sound of freedom. Sound of guard. Sound of freedom. Sound of freedom. Okay. Sound of silence parts. I was like, no, I didn't. What is that? It's a sentence of the land. Sound of freedom. Sound of freedom. Hello, son. Which my old friend. You know, Clarice. It's hard to watch.
Starting point is 00:25:52 It's hard to watch. It's a movie, very hard to watch. I don't think other than these actual freak shows, nobody's advocating for anything with minors. I actually just found out recently, because of Russell Brand, that you know the average age of consent in the United States? It's actually 16 in 35 states.
Starting point is 00:26:11 I had no idea, okay, because he was accused of doing something that was in the UK that he was accused. Correct, so I went down the rabbit hole and I said, is 16 illegal? It's actually not in the UK. Now, I'm not trying to hang out with high school girls, but in most states, it actually is 16 in the United States., I'm not trying to hang out with high school girls,
Starting point is 00:26:25 but in most states, it actually is 16 in the United States. Right, but that's not what they're talking about here. I'm fully endorsing that. The books that we were at, the books that that I was reading from, those people are academically and ideologically in alignment with queer theory. It's not just, oh, this is some freak show paper
Starting point is 00:26:41 that I pulled from some random academic. If you look on her Wikipedia page, she is credited as writing the founding document of queer theory. That's what this is. She's like, she's like the Kimberly Crenshaw, Derek Bell of Critical Race theory. Like she's the origin of it. You know, the thing that you said, Hey, I watched them beat these guys up and then boom, what was the quote that you were saying? You were in Tom, but kind of finished a quote with your brain.
Starting point is 00:27:03 First thing for the gypsies, then they came for the Jews. What about coming to the children? That quote applies to what she's saying. What she's saying is, you're like, wow, give me a break. It's just their gay. It's just the leave them alone. What's the big deal? And then all of a sudden, you get married and you have kids and your three year old kid comes on one day from school. And she's like, wait a minute, no, no, I'm putting my foot down.
Starting point is 00:27:26 And then it's too late. So the part that the people who are experiencing this pain the most, and I want to go to the next story, but I want to say final thoughts here before we go to the next story. We're going to get a chance at the end as well for you to kind of tell us more about the book. I wanted to start off with the story and Rob, let's put the link below for people that want to buy her book. You can go pick up her book, the link will be in the description.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Here's what I was thinking about the other day. When you watch strikes, who typically strikes? You see the workers, right? Union workers, united auto workers, go on a strike. Riders, guild, you know, go on a strike. Actors, go on a strike. All these workers go on a strike. When have you seen parents go on a strike? I have you seen parents going to strike? I don't
Starting point is 00:28:06 understand this. Here's, I'm telling you, I have a suggestion parents. I'm going to keep talking about this until somebody takes the lead on this and screams it off the top of their lungs. And then they do it. I would love to see a one-month parent strikes, one million kids in America for one straight month. Like, pull them out of public school? Pull them out of public school for one month. Yeah. And what I would do is add to those million kids that are being taken out, find out how many of those parents,
Starting point is 00:28:32 how many of those kids parents are teachers, okay? Where parents can actually teach a certain course, zoom. So what you need to do is a million divided by what? Let's just say it's a million divided by how many kids per Zoom? How many Zooms can we have per classroom? They do group home schooling side 15 or so when it's like you teach politics to 15 home schools. So let's just say 20. Okay. Good. So a million 20. It's what? 5,000. Is that how many we need?
Starting point is 00:29:01 Is it 5,000 or 50,000000? We need 50,000, right? So if you got 20, you got 50,000 parents, 20 to one. If you got 50,000 parents that say, I'll teach a class for one month, no problem. Why don't we do that? Okay, you take one month of your salary, say four grand a month, six grand a month, five grand a month, no problem, we'll fund it.
Starting point is 00:29:23 You go take one month off. Parents, if your dad upset about this, why don't you take a one month strike, flip it on everybody else. It's constantly the worker's going on a strike. How about for once, customers going on a strike. And here are the customers who,
Starting point is 00:29:37 the parent, parents taking their kids to school, is a customer, okay parents, why don't we go on a one month strike. In a sense, we're doing, a lot of parents have been doing that. I mean, the number of homeschoolers in the last three years have tripled. There's like five million homeschooling.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Schoolers compared to. What are you talking about? You talking about like a month moving, like a child pride month. What, everybody, we shut it down. But what the homeschoolers are doing is they're making a choice to protect their families. They're not doing a rally cry for others to join a strike type of a thing.
Starting point is 00:30:09 To do a strike, it's got to be a unified group coming together, saying, guys, for a month of November, we're taking one month, we're taking our kids out of school for one month, okay? And come join our homeschooling, come do something like this. One month, let's get out, let's show America how united we are and then let's bring the governors of those states to a place, a hearing. No, you have to listen to what's in the book. No, you have to hear what's going on. No, we are not putting them back in school until you change it.
Starting point is 00:30:37 No problem. Hey, you know what you did, government? Here's the biggest mistake the government did. And by the way, let me tell you why I believe this is possible. Do you remember when companies like Twitter came out and they said, well, you know, at Twitter, we have made a decision. You can work from home for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:30:52 That's what I'm saying. It also shit. That's a terrible idea. I just say that. You should have never said that. Please come back. Well, you said you can work from home. I meant 20 years a week.
Starting point is 00:31:01 So what happened was what COVID did. The best in COVID did, COVID taught parents, we're gonna actually homeschool. COVID was actually terrible for public schools to realize holy shit, if these parents realize they don't need us, we're gonna be in deep trouble. Well guess what, parents, you don't. When we do a 1 million kid strike, okay?
Starting point is 00:31:24 1 million kid strike for 30 days and then let them feel the pain, then they have to adjust. Schools are gonna be like, wait a minute, where the hell are they? We can't be doing something like that. We're not hitting our numbers, we're not doing this, we're not doing that. And by the way, you know, what if it hurts their GPA?
Starting point is 00:31:39 What if it hurts this, what if it hurts that? At this point in the game, quite frankly, as if going to college was the same value it was 30 years ago, the same thing they were teaching 30 years goes the same thing they're teaching today. If you ain't doing STEM anyways, why do you care about it? Let's really disrupt the educational system. Unless if your kids are not going to become a doctor,
Starting point is 00:31:59 a lawyer, a engineer, this, this, that, forget about it. Let's do this. Let's get them to realize you're in charge to people and let's get some movement going. If you really wanna save it, you have to get your hands dirty because think about it. If you can't read the book out loud at a school board meeting,
Starting point is 00:32:13 or you can't call a school board meeting without the FBI labeling you a domestic terrorist, I say this all the time, it's five fire with fire. We gotta get dirty, get dirty. Here's the thing, we have to have an objective though. If we do this, it can't just be a protest. There has to be a concrete change that we're able to articulate that we want to happen in the schools, or else it will just very quickly fall back.
Starting point is 00:32:33 And let me tell you this, this was so interesting. So public schooling in our country wasn't even mandatory until 1852, which isn't that long ago. And the reason it became mandatory, Massachusetts was the first state to make it mandatory, and it became mandatory because there was an influx of immigrants to our country at the time, particularly Catholic immigrants, and the Protestant politicians in charge of Massachusetts wanted to indoctrinate these immigrant children in American values. So they'd be loyal to America first rather than the country of their birth.
Starting point is 00:33:00 And they wanted to indoctrinate them in Protestant values because of the centuries long battle between Protestants and Catholics. And I was researching this as part of my book, and I wanted to indoctrinate them in Protestant values because of the centuries-long battle between Protestants and Catholics. And I was researching this as part of my book, and I realized, well, our education system actually is intended to be an indoctrination center. We think of indoctrination negatively just because of what the left is indoctrinating, but it's actually a very, like, nebulous, morally neutral concept. It depends on what's being indoctrinated. But sometime between when it became compulsory
Starting point is 00:33:25 and now Republicans lost sight of that and started treating it as this neutral institution where we just teach reading, writing, and arithmetic. I would argue that when you have children under your care for eight hours a day, there's no way that you can just interact in a value neutral way. You are going to be imparting some kind of values, and if we are going to do something like a million parent or a million child strike, we have to call for fundamental changes to the education system,
Starting point is 00:33:50 which means taking it back to teaching American values and Judeo-Christian morals. Otherwise, if our values are predominant in this institution, the Democrats' values are going to be. Well, we wouldn't tell people to take a strike for the hell of it. Obviously, there would be an agenda behind doing something like that.
Starting point is 00:34:04 But what I'm saying is, for us to realize what things we have in common right now, one is our conservative values that have disappeared. Okay. We've taken, we're afraid of prayer for whatever reason, but we're not afraid of LGBTQ stuff being taught in school, very confusing for me. And when it comes down to certain things that's being taught right now, if we can unify around three things, someone needs to take the lead, make a website, write down five things we're demanding and asking to change, go on a one-month strike, get people
Starting point is 00:34:32 to volunteer, let's pick the dates on when it's gonna happen, let people feel the pain. If we are supporting unions going on strike and destroying businesses, great, why don't we do the same thing to you? The biggest union in America's teachers union, the biggest union in America is teachers union. Let's let them feel the pain a little bit. Hey guys, you keep trying to bully all of our kids. Hey, let us kind of give you a little bit of taste of your medicine.
Starting point is 00:34:53 And we've never done this before. I think the parents showed during COVID, you can actually pull this off. Let's go to the next story. OK, all these flooding that's going on. OK, we're seeing it all over the world. New York, terrible situation, right? You got Libya, I'll read a couple of these stories.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Your climate change and NYC historic rain, buckles cities infrastructure. Again, this is an NBC story talking about severe stone with over seven inches of rain and less than 24 hours wreaks havoc in New York City. Rob, if you can find a video without audio to just play inundating streets and crippling transportation system, highlighting the city's vulnerability to climate change driven extreme weather.
Starting point is 00:35:37 That part is very, that's New York. People are walking in that car. Yeah, I mean, it just doesn't make any sense. Any sense. And another one here in Las Vegas, after historic flooding, what's next for re-creational Mount Charleston? Okay, in August 21st, a historic flood caused tropical storm Hillary, devastated Mount Charleston,
Starting point is 00:35:56 Nevada. Can you go to that one right there? If you can find a video on Mount Charleston, Nevada flood. That's her. Yeah. With eight inches of rainfall in 48 hours of damage in homes, buildings, and infrastructure,
Starting point is 00:36:09 although no injuries reported. Then, this is Nevada, by the way, which makes no sense. And then you have Libya, which is the most tragic one, Libya flooding, that's up to 11,000 tops, 11,000 as thousands reported missing. The death toll for the catastrophic floods in eastern Libya has climbed to 11,000, with nearly 4,000 bodies recovered and identified. And more than 9,000 people still missing as reported by the Libyan Red Crescent and the
Starting point is 00:36:40 World Health Organization, Dr. Ahmed Zoytan, of who World Health Organization called the disaster of epic proportions while I met Al-Hadid, of the Red Crescent noted that bodies were washing up on the beaches as far as 150 kilometers away. And FYI, there's flooding going on in a bunch of different places that we can show us. Well, it's eight different big floods going on around the world at the same time.
Starting point is 00:37:02 So what's the reason behind it? Is it one, it's God is upset, and he is upset with what we're doing with his kids, his upset with what we're doing, what's been given to us, is it mother nature, is it climate change, or the fact that it's all happening at the same time, a, an agenda that's taking place. I asked this question a Monday morning
Starting point is 00:37:24 with my C-suite executives just to spark conversation. What are your thoughts on what's going on with this? What's the reason behind that? So this is actually a story that I actually follow pretty closely because I'm born and raised in Miami. We've been dealing with flooding forever, especially in Miami Beach and South Beach. It floods.
Starting point is 00:37:39 We're on the bay. We're near the ocean. The bay overflows, especially in the canals. The streets get flooded. What we've done in Miami is we've risen, raised the streets, like literally, they bring the street up five feet. So if you look at the cities that are the most vulnerable
Starting point is 00:37:55 to flooding, here's an insurify, because I trust insurance companies, because they actually have to pay out. It's kind of like how Vegas has to pay out when there's odds. Miami and a score of one through 100, hundred. Wow. Number one city in America. And there's three states that are basically affected by flooding in the United States. There's Miami, Miami, Florida. There's Haya Liyah there. There's Hollywood, Florida, which is 10 minutes south of us where we did the vault. And I believe Tampa's on this list. Then you have New York, Brooklyn, New Jersey City,
Starting point is 00:38:27 all basically outer bureaus or New York City, and then you have certain cities in Texas. So in the United States, the cities that should be the most focused on this, I assume are, right? Miami's taken action. I have no clue what New York is doing. I don't know what Eric Adams is doing.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Certainly don't know what Bill DeBlosio was doing. I know that Bloomberg was doing all right. And obviously your people down in Texas are doing their thing. But when it comes to cities most vulnerable in the world, nobody is taking it higher than in China, India, and I believe it's Indonesia, but Southeast Asia. So the hemispheres are the parts of the world that should be the most attentive to this are North America and Asia, specifically Southeast Asia. But if you want to go Tom Ellsworth and get some stats here, the temperatures of risen by an average of point one for Fahrenheit per decade since 1880, why 1880? Because that's post-industrial revolution, right? Which was late 1700s, American Revolution
Starting point is 00:39:30 to basically almost the Civil War, where basically machines took over handwork, persons versus machines. So this is what concerns Gen Z, which I understand especially if this is all they hear. So since the industrial revolution temperatures have risen 2% degrees Fahrenheit hotter, okay? That's overall.
Starting point is 00:39:52 The rate of warming since 1980, however, is two times as rapid, 0.32 per decade, 2022 was the warmest year ever on record. We'll see where 2023 finishes. We're not done yet. And bottom line is the 10 warmest years on historical record have all occurred since 2010. So the question is not, is the globe getting warmer?
Starting point is 00:40:18 It certainly is. If you believe science and trust the science and all this information, if you want to fact check me is that the NOAA the National Association of Atmospheric Administration .gov but to what extent Is human activity in this right so we've seen it since the post industrial revolution machines the fogs cars Airplanes we see that. You have Leonardo DiCaprio's of the world and the people flying to Davos while they're
Starting point is 00:40:49 saying, global warming. So to what extent is human activity? But the bottom line is it's expected to go five degrees Fahrenheit higher by the end of the century. So is this something that I think about every single day of my demise? No, I kind of want to work, I kind of want to live my life, kind of do my thing, but when I'm driving in the streets of Miami and it's flooded, it's kind of hard not to pay attention to what's going on. So Tom, what do you think is going on here?
Starting point is 00:41:21 The earth has had cycles and the cycles have come and gone. Archaeologists, why do we always find old civilizations under six feet of dirt? Something happened and it flooded and it covered them up. Is that to say that all the pollution that we create is good? No, less pollution in any form would be better. But are we dramatically driving 100% of what we see? No, I don't think so. I think the Earth's headed cycles. We have a cycle that's going on now. We've had ice ages. It came and go. And, you know, if the caveman had CNN, they would have been
Starting point is 00:41:56 worried about global cooling for several centuries. So are we having an impact? Sure. Man is having something of an impact. I think there's also cycles that happen and you can look back in history and kind of see the way structures of earth and geology have changed from time to time. There have been cycles. Liz. I think I would probably take a little more pragmatic approach to it. So you mentioned the temperature difference between 1880 and now. Well, 1880 is the year that we started tracking global temperatures.
Starting point is 00:42:25 So it's not that since 1880, we've seen all these changes. That's that we didn't track temperatures before that. So it's not really quite fair to, quite fair to compare that. I think infrastructure and the increase in infrastructure, especially in the United States plays into it. I mean, if you want to use New York as an example, their sewer system for sewer water made of clay pipes that haven't been replaced in like 100 years.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Obviously, their infrastructure is crumbling. Their infrastructure is also like, if you look at the skyline of New York City now compared to 100 years ago, it's much different, right? So as we continue to build, look at Miami, for example. You've seen those before and after pictures of Miami. As we continue to build up infrastructure in these cities that are on the coast
Starting point is 00:43:06 or are vulnerable to storms, that's obviously going to cause greater damage because we've chosen to build there. I'm skeptical of the claims made by the climate alarmists that say that the industrial revolution and CO2 and fossil fuels are responsible for this because I don't think that they give, I think that they lose some credibility
Starting point is 00:43:26 when they don't also state what the positives for humanity have been for these things. And they've had so many of their predictions debunked, even since like the 1980s, these climate alarmists have told us that we're gonna have states falling off, that polar bears are gonna die, that Greenland's gonna be covered in water.
Starting point is 00:43:42 And none of the things that they've said, I mean, five years ago, Greta Thunberg said we were gonna be dead in water. And none of the things that they've said, I mean, five years ago, Greta Thunberg said we were gonna be dead by now. We were not. They're not really very credibly science-based people. So I suspect that there's an agenda behind the alarmism because that is what ruling class typically does is they try to spark fear in the hearts of people
Starting point is 00:43:58 in order to push an agenda. We've, it's pretty clear what their agenda is, whether it's coming from AOC or from the World Economic Forum. They really want to move us towards a more socialist economy just based on fear. So let me ask you this, because you made some fair points, especially, you know, we're Greta Thumber, go to school for this. She did.
Starting point is 00:44:17 She's not, she's 14. She's got laughs every time she gets arrested. So she's certainly used as a pawn by whoever is pulling the strings, no doubt. And I do agree that there's to an extent climate alarmism and Gen Z is falling major victim to this. You can see that they that's their number one priority. It's the number one. My question is, you also made a valid point about the industrial revolution 1880. But how do you explain the last 10 years have been the hottest ever? So I get the 1880. But how do you explain the last 10 years have been the hottest ever? So I get the 1880, but how do you explain the last 10 years?
Starting point is 00:44:47 Well, there are like he was saying there are fluctuations in global temperatures. I mean, we go through over 10 years. Yeah, we go through warm periods, we go through cool periods. We really don't we really don't have enough scientific data to make sweeping statements about what these what these temperature cycles mean because we have such a limited amount of data. I'm no scientist. I'm for the last hundred and fifty years. I'm no scientist.
Starting point is 00:45:06 A hundred and fifty years. A hundred and fifty years. A hundred and fifty years. A hundred and fifty years. A hundred and fifty years. A hundred and fifty years. A hundred and fifty years. A hundred and fifty years.
Starting point is 00:45:13 A hundred and fifty years. A hundred and fifty years. A hundred and fifty years. A hundred and fifty years. A hundred and fifty years. A hundred and fifty years. A hundred and fifty years. A hundred and fifty years.
Starting point is 00:45:21 A hundred and fifty years. A hundred and fifty years. A hundred and fifty years. A hundred and fifty years. A hundred and fifty years. A hundred and fifty years. A extreme to me. Maybe to go up that much. I would like an explanation for that. Maybe 10 years, because I mean, if you feel if you want to get biblical and stuff, it feels like the devil is running the show right now. Maybe that's what it's.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Could you think about it? Adam, could you think about it? You don't think there are micro cycles in addition to the macro cycles, that there can be small fluctuations? I'm just saying 10 years is quite the micro cycle over 10,000. I just look at the data from even the US intergovernmental panel on climate change, not exactly your conservative think tank over there. They released a report.
Starting point is 00:45:56 I think it was from 2022 that said that debunked what a lot of these climate alarmists were saying about tornadoes and hurricanes and floods and said, no, these, these natural disasters aren't occurring with greater severity or more frequency. That's just a talking point. We suffer greater damage because our infrastructure is built up so much more and people stand to lose so much more. And maybe that's something we need to address when we're building
Starting point is 00:46:17 up in certain areas of the country or certain areas of the world. But I just a little confused by the narrative that we hear from politicians or the sphere mongering that is causing Gen Z to suffer like one in five Gen Z years suffers insomnia over fear of climate disaster. I'm confused about why we are telling Gen Z that we are going to die based on climate alarmism when even the most leftist organizations like NOAA, the National Oceanic and Amesphere Association or the UN are saying actually what these climate alarmists are claiming about natural disasters isn't true.
Starting point is 00:46:47 But Liz, it doesn't just come down to two things. It's number one, is there alarmism and activism and fake news going on about this issue? Yes. But is it an issue? I also say yes. So it's not like it's right or wrong, or it's a binary choice, where it's do nothing, nothing to see here, don't do anything,
Starting point is 00:47:10 versus stop everything you're doing. This is the number one issue we're all gonna die. There has to be some nuance here, even Tom, who's a professional fact checker, said there's cycles, but you also said, to some extent, man made, to how much extent do you think? No, I said, if you're going to argue with me about CO2, I'll say, okay, anytime we pollute lakes and air less, that's good. Yeah, right? I agree with that. But I'm not saying that it's
Starting point is 00:47:38 correlated. And what you were very interesting, she brought up about NOAA. NOAA got caught with their pants down 11 years ago on modifying the data. Number one, Kofi Ann and got caught with this pants down saying, well, this is really about economic redistribution. The climate change argument at the UN level is about economic redistribution from the rich countries to the poor countries. When I see those two things, science for me kind of takes a shot. And I say, you know, you know what I see in the weather, I know what I see around.
Starting point is 00:48:10 And we have greater, by the way, it is true that the natural disasters were not happening with increasing frequency, but our awareness of natural disasters and instant news cycles in Twitter have made us wildly available. You know, Paul McCartney went out and did, and you can go look this up, Rob.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Did the concert for Bangladesh? Because of these typhoons that will come in annually and basically create incredible suffering for these poor people, just masses of humanity, third world country with a lot of infrastructure. And by the way, you have people like me that were going to college going, I didn't even know about this.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Why didn't we know about it? Why didn't we know about farm aid? Because in these time of media, it was brought more to our attention. And so now we go back and look at it and say, you know, some of these natural disasters have been happening just like that, natural disasters. And they're more prevalent in the front of your face now
Starting point is 00:49:02 than they were previously. And so, and then you have no one people caught with their pants down, that kind of takes credibility away from me. I'm like, oh, so we're gonna use climate change as this bludgeon for economic redistribution. And speaking of government, I'm having their way with it, you guys have all heard of weather modification, right?
Starting point is 00:49:20 It's an active intentionally manipulating or altering whether the most common is called cloud seed seating, which increases rain or snow. Usually for the purpose of increasing the local water supply, which in my, dude, if you can control the weather, who knows what the hell they do because pat and then this says, you could damage, use it for damaging weather against the enemy as a tactic of military or economic warfare, like Operation Puppai, where clouds were seeded to prolong the monsoon in Vietnam. So, I don't know, bro, if the government can control weather and do what they want, and
Starting point is 00:49:50 they want to push an agenda of climate change, and it starts pouring rain in New York, that I've never seen that back. I'm from New York, never ever since I've been, I've seen it that bad. An infrastructure, this administration ran an infrastructure. It's like how bad is it lacking? Where the streets of New York, just on a downfall like that, shut down the whole city.
Starting point is 00:50:08 I have a question for you Adam. So one of the things that I think is interesting, and I like having these conversations with good faith people, even when we don't necessarily come at it from the same perspective, but one of the ways that I differentiate between science and ideology
Starting point is 00:50:20 is whether there's demonstrable proof that substantiates a claim, right? Versus just presenting an unfulsifiable claim, because an unfulsifiable claim, you could argue that a lot of faith is based on something that can't be proved. You can't necessarily scientifically prove that God exists, but the basis of science
Starting point is 00:50:35 is that you can prove something over and over and over again. So one of the things that I often notice with people talking about the human impact, and we'll even put the climate alarmist aside for a second. But people that talk about the human impact on whether like CO2 and what it's done to our climate, what is, how do you, how do you know? Like what is your proof? Because you're making a pretty, what seems to me like an unfalcifiable claim.
Starting point is 00:50:58 You're saying to me, well, our temperatures have increased by a fraction of a percent. And over here, we also have flooding. Therefore, I'm going to assume that they are not only correlated, but directly correlated. What is the proof of that? There is none. You bring up a valid point. And here's what you talk about arguing in good faith.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Like in any negotiation or any conversation, let's start with what we agree upon, right? Do we want to live on earth? Yes. Do we love our planet? Yes. Am I trying to live on earth? Yes. Do we love our planet? Yes. Am I trying to move to Mars? No, despite my invitation from Elon Musk.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Do we want the temperature to rise to a point where we can't survive? Hell no. So if we have some basis of agreement, because I think things get so politicized, you love the earth. I hate the earth. You hate the, it's like, no, that's not what it is.
Starting point is 00:51:45 I just want to know what the proof is, because you'd think if human behavior, especially like phosphils in CO2, were a direct cause of even the increase in temperature that led to an increase in severity and frequency of storms, then you would see that data. And yet, the data shows that there is not an increase in frequency and severity.
Starting point is 00:52:02 So it seems to me that that undercuts the claim. And I'm just wondering what substantiates that claim. Otherwise, it's just ideology, right? PBD is all about debates and discourse. Conversation, the conversation you had a week ago with the Muslims and the Christians was fantastic. I know you said you want to do more of those. What have you done or what are your thoughts
Starting point is 00:52:21 on having this type of debate? I know we've had climate people on, but have you had this debate? She's asking you a very good question, by the way, just so you know, and I think she's waiting for an answer. But but I will say this to you. What I'll say to you is, you know, we've always, Rob and I, will invite people to debate people from the other side who say, no, it's not as catastrophic as you make it out to be. The people that are fully convinced climate change is real don't want to do the debate, don't know why. The same experience I had during COVID, the people that I said, why don't we look at other options for COVID?
Starting point is 00:53:02 Why don't we question why there's certain challenges with the vaccine? The people that said, no, you got to take the vaccine no matter what, never wanted to debate the other people that were doing research. Again, I don't know why. What I've learned, the same reason why I brought up Newsom the other day, I said, look, I respect the fact that Newsom's willing to go and sit down with Hannity. And you know, you got some people on the right that are not willing to go sit down with anybody else on the left or Obama never came and sat down with anybody on the right.
Starting point is 00:53:26 I respect anybody that's willing to do the debate. You got to respect that. But on the climate change side, this this side doesn't like to debate with the other side. I don't know why. Anyways, let's move on to the next topic. I'd like to go through six more topics. You will only have an hour left. Okay. So next, LeBron James wife and two associates named in federal PED investigation Story that just recently came out and it's got a lot of people saying is Lebron doing GH as young growth hormone is this the Lance Armstrong Story that's about to come out and they're gonna strip them of all these different accolades that he has so let's read it Lebron James close associate Ernest Mims business manager and David Alexander trainer Have been named an unredacted federal document
Starting point is 00:54:07 related to the biogenesis scandal. However, there is no accusation or evidence of LeBron James using performance enhancement drugs. In the reports, the biogenesis scandal previously implicated, major league baseball players like Ryan Braun and Nelson Cruz leading to suspensions for 21 players Ernest Mims was cited for buying controlled substances for personal use while David Alexander was listed as a Miami-based Personal trainer for LeBron James as wife LeBron James and other athletes
Starting point is 00:54:38 We're not directly named in the case and James is representative stated that he had no prior knowledge of his name being referenced in biogenesis investigation. Now Rob can you pull up a picture with LeBron James and let me read that to you if you found that let me just read that. A representative for James told ESPN that Los Angeles they could know had no knowledge. He his wife was associate. We've been referenced in a biogenesis investigation until approached by the media organization last year, ESPN's request to interview James and MIMS were declined. After they provided James's camp with applicable information to back up their questioning, it's clear ESPN's reporting on the subject
Starting point is 00:55:17 took over years worth of research. While this is first needle moving action, first needle moving action involving the bioogenesis case in several years, it's surely not going to be the last. Can you find a picture? Just Google, is LeBron James taking PD with his body? Tom, I'm gonna go to you first because there's a story of this that came out with
Starting point is 00:55:39 Peyton Manning, we had his neck accident. What are your thoughts on the story here with LeBron James and Peyton Manning? Well, look, I mean, there's smoking guns here, we had as neck accident what are your thoughts on the story you would lebron james and paid manic well look i mean there's there's smoking guns here but there is a huge economic interest in the mba not to have not to have um... your number one star have an issue like this they saw what happened with a rod mani ramirez and how baseball
Starting point is 00:56:03 baseball took such black eyes so there's a lot of economic interests in the NBA not to have this happen. But the other side of it, there appears to be a playbook here. Because when Peyton Manning heard his neck, supposedly he was receiving certain substances that came to his wife. And I don't recall seeing Ashley kind of beef up for the bench pressing Honda Civics, and he had a need, a very big medical need because they were trying to heal the fuse of the vertebrae on his neck, and he was having trouble doing that, and there was this, there was certain muscle deterioration that happened that it was a result of the
Starting point is 00:56:42 surgery, and people said, well, if an average individual was using these things I would be actually prescribing them unfortunately. He's an individual who is He makes a living where they have a book that says you can't use these things So I think dead spin have it right. You know, they call them wags. Yeah wives and girlfriends. Yeah, they've changed it this morning They're now pags and it's some pharmacist of the girlfriends So it's um it's a completely different category now. Your wife is actually, you know, not just supporting your career, she's supporting your career.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Okay, so let me ask you a question. You think actually something's gonna come out that LeBron's doing PD and he's gonna get caught and the store's gonna get public. You think they're gonna take it to that level like they did with Lance Armstrong because, you know, they fully ganged up on lands to destroy his legacy, right? And that's more than individual support. It's slightly different. And one would say how
Starting point is 00:57:35 much money and sponsorship is in cycling, although he probably brought a lot of attention to cycling, being the greatest cyclist of all time. Everybody was talking about it. And this, this is a behemoth of a leak franchise. He's a face, this would be a black eye for the NBA, for his legacy, for being the greatest, for being all that, I have a complete different argument for this on what I think when I think about, you know, by the way, did you find a picture of the guy? If you find a picture with LeBron on.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Okay, so you're arguing for the picture. Net pat on to your question. Yes, I think this is a smoking gun, but I think there's so much at stake for the NBA that they got to put the smoke out. Well, zoom in on that. Zoom in on that picture right there. That's with Marcellus Wiley. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Look, I mean, let's just start with the basics. LeBron is an absolute specimen of a human being. He is an absolute beast, even in high school. The guy was massive. So if there's somebody that may not need to take steroids, it might be arguably the greatest physical athlete of all time. Now, do we know if he's actually doing or doing not?
Starting point is 00:58:44 We know that he takes very good care of his body. Ironically, you know if he's actually doing or doing or doing not? We know that he takes very good care of his body. Ironically, you know, he played for the heat. David Alexander, who is the trainer here. I've known him for years. He married a girl I went to high school with Natasha. So I've know these people. They're around. They're like, they're not random people and random basements selling drugs. He's a very famous Miami fitness trainer. He's not some low-key weird dude. So is Randy Mims. I don't know why they called him Ernest Mims,
Starting point is 00:59:11 but he goes by Randy. I've seen him a million times in Miami. That's his business manager. Now, if he is doing something, it'd be pretty damn sloppy to put it in your wife's name. You've got literally so many people in your inner circle, you're gonna do this with.
Starting point is 00:59:26 But David Alexander has trained LeBron, he's trained Dwayne Wade, he's trained Chris Paul, he's a G. I'm not saying that there's no there, there. I'm just saying, this isn't the first time we've heard this conversation about LeBron. But at the end of the day, steroids are no steroids. He's still better than you.
Starting point is 00:59:44 And he's still better than anybody in the end. He's getting older, but he's getting older and to stay on the top at him, if there's little cheating that you don't see, that's something that Tom was talking about. Like, we don't know, but I mean, to stay on top of your game and go on up, about what you said,
Starting point is 00:59:59 like the amount of money, sponsors, and China, has been involved. What's your, can I say one thing? Yeah, I'll show over you. In basketball, okay, I and China. I have a whole different thing. What can I say one thing in the, I'll tell you over here. In basketball, okay, I played basketball. Being big and strong and bulky is not great for athleticism. You want to kind of be long and lean and in shape
Starting point is 01:00:16 and have a little bit of muscle. Yeah, but that's not what it comes to. Neither was Lance Armstrong strong. You're not doing it to be a body builder. It's all because of speedy recovery. Okay. It's what it's for. Lance Armstrong, can you put Lance Armstrong. You're not doing it to be a bodybuilder. It's all because of speedy recovery. Okay. It's what it's for. Lance Armstrong. You ever see Lance? Can you put Lance Armstrong's body when he was cycling? Oh my God. It's not about sales. It's got nothing to do with. It's about the fact that he's 39 years old, playing at the level that he's playing. How many games in the
Starting point is 01:00:40 season? He plays about 70 to 75 games. That's a lot of games. Not an 82 guy. No, I'm just saying that he doesn't play 82. But where I was going with it, because when I think of steroids, I think of everything that we've discussed in the bodybuilding world. Yeah, that's not steroids. Okay, it's literally I've never been steroids.
Starting point is 01:00:56 No, for example, like you know how Joe Rogan says, hey, rock, why don't you just come out and say you're on steroids, right? You're taking stuff. It's like a little bit like what are you doing? We know. Yeah, it's obvious. The people that have taken, they're like, no, you're on steroids, right? You're taking stuff. It's like a little bit like, what are you doing? Like, yeah, it's obvious. The people that have taken, they're like, no, you're on something.
Starting point is 01:01:08 It's very obvious. It's cool. It's okay. Here's my position with it. Okay. You know how back in the days, it was kind of like such and such smoke-sweed. Oh my God, it was just smoke-sweed.
Starting point is 01:01:17 It's just smoke-sweed. And it now's like, what, such and such smoke-sweed. Okay, what do you want me to do, bro? Like, you have a life. You smoke-sweed. Okay. They need to get over this fact that these guys are doing,
Starting point is 01:01:29 like they need to legalize it already in sports. Stop it, like, absolutely stop it. What do you mean legalize it? You're saying they, yes, they need to legalize, you know, guys that are playing sports that are, you know, putting their bodies through being hit, running nonstop, yes, they need to take certain things that others are not gonna take.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Like a formula race car driver that's going 220 miles an hour, what do you think they're on to be able to handle that two and a half hours of whatever they're doing? Their bodies a different body, they're drinking vault for sure. Adderall. No, they can fuck Adderall. They take Adderall. Okay, so for me, me, do I think LeBron's on things?
Starting point is 01:02:08 Yes. Why? Everybody that's ever been close to LeBron has said how shitty have a died he has. He is cookies, he is everything. You know when people eat everything shitty and they still look good, there's a reason for it. You can't get away with eating shitty things.
Starting point is 01:02:21 You could get away with it in the early 20s. You can't get away with it in your 30s, 35, 38, 39. Body changes a little bit. And no, hey, LeBron, let me tell you, he's always eating cookies. He's always eating ice cream. He's always eating this and you look like that. You know, fine. There's a part that you say genetics.
Starting point is 01:02:35 There's the other part of it. Maybe sometimes you're taking with your body. All I'm saying is, I don't have a problem with athletes taking it. I don't have a problem with it. They're athletes. They're playing problem with it. They're athletes. They're playing a different game. They're taking a different risk.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Race car drivers put different kind of fuel in their cars. You don't put that in your car. I drive a 93 octane, whatever I put in my car. You put an 89 or an 87. Oh my God, did you know Formula-Mobile kind of octane do they use in F1 or NASCAR? They're exotic, they're like 115. Oh my God, they're cheating.
Starting point is 01:03:06 They have to put 115 octane in those cars. They're risking their lives driving. You're worried about this guy putting steroids in his body. You should be worried about other things. Most of these guys, after they're done playing, you see how they walk when they're 60 or so. You know, they walk in a certain way with their legs and their knees trust me.
Starting point is 01:03:22 They're gonna be having a lot of issues later on. So I don't have a problem. It being across the board that you're doing it, just like they're trying to make, you know, weed legal and certain things. I don't see it being an issue. But if it does come out today and you're using it while it's illegal, guess what? You broke the rules. You broke the law.
Starting point is 01:03:43 But later on, they need to kind of transition into making a legal forever. Have a league that's just all like steroids, whatever. But it already is anyways. It's not like you have a league. By the way, what percent of NBA players do you think right now we're taking a legal substance? Like 80% smoke weed. Yeah. 80% smoke weed. Are you saying weed or you saying P.D.? Like things that anything any substance that they're not supposed to do? Well, please would you consider weed being one of them or no? They're one is definitely up there. They're definitely smoking weed. I don't think you're putting weed.
Starting point is 01:04:12 No, not for performing. Okay, so you're purely talking performance in Haslan, what percentage of NBA play? I would say 20%. I was gonna say 35, maybe 30, 35. That's so weird. That's so weird. NFL NFL, what's NFL? What?
Starting point is 01:04:24 70? 80%. I was gonna say, but by the way, guess what? You do you see what they're doing like how fast are now? Oh, yeah, what do you know how easy the average person they they tackle you? How much to helmet your dead. Yeah, it should be mandatory. Yeah, to be in the NFL. Yeah, it's isn't that an argument against maybe not doing steroids in the NFL. I mean, these guys are, yeah, but they do to their bodies.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Yeah, but we're covered. I mean, they need a great point. So listen, to play in an NFL game and the recovery and one week, think about it. And one week after you're having these giants hit you, I think it should be a no brain. Are they need the stuff to recover? We've seen the case study in this. You saw a low case study in this and it's called Major League Baseball. Pat and I followed it.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Major League Baseball had an era where their testing equipment was so bad and their testing frequency was so bad and your ability to travel every six days from place to place and to avoid testing was so good that you had literally baseball was powered by steroids. We all knew it was. It was the era of Sami Sosa and Mark McWire. And Kevin Brown, the pitcher, and there were pitchers using it. Why did pitchers use it? They used it for one reason, recovery.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Lancer Armstrong, he was focused on Epo, EPO, and recovery. EPO, oxygen transport, that was it. Every other cyclist was using it. They were all using it. But they weren't big enough that, you know, even with the same thing that he was using They couldn't beat him. Yeah, but he lost his legacy with the whole thing every time people see him right now They no longer say you're the spirit guy. Correct remember to live strong. Yeah, no yellow wristband
Starting point is 01:05:54 He's a juicer. What happened? You're saying that if it's so prevalent make it legal I don't know whether I agree with that or not you guys probably have more opinions on sports that I do But I don't think that the viewership of these professional leagues would accept it as easily, obviously, as the players and trainers. Because one of the fun parts of watching sports is watching human beings who are so much better than we are playing this athletic competition, and it just feels like cheating. It feels like, oh, are you actually doing that?
Starting point is 01:06:22 Are you only doing that because you have access to certain types of drugs that make you do it? You bring up a great point. I don't know if people would accept that because think about how disappointed and devastated. It wasn't just a media hit job against Lance Armstrong. People were kind of disappointed because when you are a fan of sports, these players are your idols.
Starting point is 01:06:39 You're like, if only you could live up to this, kids want to be them. And then it's like, well, are you even real? It becomes like, you bring up a great point because it's all optics. wanna be them and then it's like, well, are you even real? It becomes like, you bring up a great point because it's all optics. Like, for instance, I was like, oh, it makes you bigger and stronger and you're a muscle head steroids.
Starting point is 01:06:51 It's like, no, it's actually somewhat used for recovery. All right, I generally didn't know that because I'm not actively playing any major sports. So if they fit, because the, if I don't know that, think about the common fan. They're just like, he's on steroids. Oh my God, it's elite. It's like're just like he's on steroids. Oh my god It's elite. It's like no, it's actually I
Starting point is 01:07:07 Spray my ankle and I want to recover sooner. So there's there's a there's a part to what you're saying that is so valid because What is the what is the fan going to think house is going to taint it use the baseball analogy? We all remember what happened with Sammy so some Mark McGuire I think it's an absolute shame that arguably the greatest bass player of all time, not named Babe Ruth, Barry Bonds, is not in the Hall of Fame because he used steroids. But everyone in the league was using steroids at that time. We all know that the, I think it was under the Bush
Starting point is 01:07:37 administration that we're having court hearings, week, long, month, long, year, long investigations into steroids, during the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, it's like, get your priority straight. Like, you got, and Rafael Pomeros went in there any. Yeah. Would you guys be disappointed if you found out that Michael Jordan had a bionic leg? Like, would that disappoint you?
Starting point is 01:07:59 Like, if you have a thing that's going to disappoint me about Michael Jordan, did you see air like it's something that it's not, it it's metal graphite that it wasn't he's not 100% human basically. Yeah, would you would be disappointed if you found out that like all of this jump so high so much is because you wasn't fully like there's a couple Think different things here. You know, I feel like that's how people would feel. No, I don't know about that because to me. How many people in the world have a six pack? How many people in America have a six pack? Can you Google that while we're away? Sure, for sure.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Google what percentage of Americans have a six pack? Can you do that? I'm actually really keen. You'll see what point I'm making here right now. What percentage of Americans have a six pack? I'm going with 2%. No way. I wonder if they have this.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Let's go ape. They should have it. So there it is. What is it? Number of Americans with six packs. 125,000. Okay. I don't know. Let's go ape. They should have it. So there it is. What is it? Number of Americans with six packs. 125,000. Okay. I don't know if it's that high, but go see if there's another study on that.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Six pack. Where? Where percentage is it easier to be a million or six, but there's an article that says it's easier to be a millionaire than to have a six pack. Okay. But here's a point. Okay. Can anybody have a six pack?
Starting point is 01:09:03 Yes. Yeah. Of course can anybody have a six-pack? Yes. Yeah. Of course can anybody have a six-pack. So we don't look at these athletes and say, they're doing things that we can't do. No, no, they're doing things that we don't want to do. Okay, so that's one thing we respect them for because they're more disciplined to take care of their health.
Starting point is 01:09:19 I respect the fact that LeBron is playing at 38, 39 years old with his body. There's a lot of guys that let their bodies go. Carmelo Anthony could have taken care of his body. They came at the same time, but Carmelo Anthony wasn't as disciplined with his body. You know, there was Antoine Walker, who was at one point in all-star doing great things. I sat down and talked to the guy. When we sat down and talked to him, I'm like, Antoine, how did you become 400 pounds?
Starting point is 01:09:42 He was 400 pounds when I sat him at a cigar lounge in Chicago because it's hard to take care of your health. So there's an element that we automatically think that these guys have God-given abilities and that's the only reason why they do what they do. It requires a lot more than just that. Yes, some people have it. But for example, you know, Michael Jordan versus Vince Carter.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Vince Carter is a better dunker than Michael Jordan. How come Michael Jordan ended up becoming a, you know, who he became and Vince Carter didn't, but this is not easy. It's way more than just the physical side. It's the mental side. It's the discipline to go to the gym. That is why we respect them.
Starting point is 01:10:13 I don't think we respect them to say, well, that guy's taking stuff and I'm not. I think that's a different element. But for me, the average person also, the same way the average person doesn't understand what an entrepreneur goes through when they start a company and then they want to demonize the founder that started a company or the capitalist like, yeah, look at him. He's got all this money.
Starting point is 01:10:31 He goes to the nice restaurants, lives in the house and that, yeah, bro, did you work a hundred hours a week for 20 years? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Once you go do it, because you can do it too. You can work a hundred hours a week. You can go out there and read books instead of watching every damn Netflix show. The last time I watched the only series I've ever watched on my TV on Netflix is House of Cart.
Starting point is 01:10:51 And I watched Lasso because Greg Sher told me Lasso reminds him of you. So I had to watch Ted Lasso a couple episodes to see it. But yes, I think it's very, I think the audience is not going to change. I think for me it's purely recovery. And we have to understand that these guys' lives is the different lives than the one we're living. Not saying they don't have a great life. They have a great life, but it's very hard to do with these.
Starting point is 01:11:12 And you made a great point about Lance, and all these other guys were taking the same type of procedure that Lance was. But you know, people quickly forgot that his lives strong, that bracelet cancer thing. He raised over $500 million for cancer research treatment and support put $6.5 million of his own money. And it's just funny how he gets caught
Starting point is 01:11:31 and they vilify him and they're like, that hell with him, he saved millions of lives. What he does today, he's a podcast. He's a podcast. You know they made him step down, he resigned. He stepped down. He stepped down after the allegations. Yeah, but nobody cares about the 500 million
Starting point is 01:11:44 over 500 million. Why don't we talk about something important, like sending a bird cage to a friend, it's stuck now. He's stuck now. After the allegations. But nobody cares about the 500 million over 500 million. Why don't we talk about something important, like sending a birdcage to a friend. It's a kid. Let's talk about something like that. So Nikki Haley says Trump campaign sent her birdcage after he called her bird brain. He's really good.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Bird brain. So, you know, let's see what Liz is going to say about this one. Here, Liz, I'm really curious to hear. You're taking on this one. OK, so a former comedian and president Donald Trump, that's not the headline, but Nicky Haley draws in salt from Trump and sign. She is gaining ground in Republican presidential race.
Starting point is 01:12:15 Former president Trump launched an entire thing, calling about, you know, bird brain and declaring MAGA, or I will never go bird brain, Nicky Haley, Nicky Haley gained recognition for impressive performance in a recent Republican debate, earning praise for her rhetorical prowess. A post debate poll conducted by 538 shows that 62% of respondents rated her performance positively,
Starting point is 01:12:38 signaling a notable boost in her standing with GOP rate. So one, what do you think about the gift President Trump sent her? And then two, do you really think that she's becoming more and more formidable? It's just a season here. What are your thoughts? Well, I don't doubt, she put a picture up
Starting point is 01:12:57 on social media of the of the birdcage and the bird seed. I don't doubt that she, yeah, and there it is. I don't doubt that she received that at her door. I'm a little skeptical that it came from the Trump campaign. I think someone who did it just for a gag and signed the Trump campaign because they knew that it would get the attention that it gets. I'm not sure that that's funny enough that the Trump campaign would actually do it. He's never done anything like that. Nikki, he's not worried about Nikki Haley. He's not worried, but you know what I hold on. I wish I was there if it is true. If he was like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:13:25 Said it. Said, and hey, bird food too, but you know what? I saw that, I thought if it is true, hands down, what a gamer. He doesn't give a damn if your male, female, young, old, cute, ugly. If it's a competition, if that's true, he doesn't give two shits. He's going after your ass. And if that is him, that is one of the funniest things back because I know
Starting point is 01:13:46 He's trying to like that's like go trying to go after like her brain like guys hilarious, but he's a comedian I mean, it's funny. I just I don't know. I am very skeptical that it came from the Trump campaign I think it came from she makes a good great point by the way you're never know Can you confirm this because I don't see anywhere that Trump's camp confirmed sending the bird case. You heard what he said after Chris Christie. You saw the Chris Christie Donald Duck, like to print his insult, and Trump's response to that was hilarious. He said, anybody who comes up with an insult like that isn't fit to be present. That goes right back.
Starting point is 01:14:19 Well, you know, beyond all the merriment here, and there's a couple of charts you have here, it's very, very interesting stuff. Beyond all the merriment here, beyond all the merriment, and there's a couple of charts you have here, is very, very interesting stuff. So national polls and national headlines right now, they don't matter. Here's what matter. What are the people of Iowa and New Hampshire really thinking and are those polls moving?
Starting point is 01:14:38 Because that's where the spring points are gonna be. Right now, the national polls, yeah. Oh my God. They illustrate a little bit. Jump is not. But the national polls. Yeah. Oh my God. They illustrate a little bit. But the national polls are not what's there. Take me to New Hampshire. That's Iowa. Let's go to New Hampshire. Take a look at that little red line in the lower right corner. She's coming. The Santas is green. He's not afraid of Nikki Haley. Who's in red right there?
Starting point is 01:15:01 Is that right? So basically, I look at it this, like this. God. What if all this legal stuff does take Donald Trump out of the campaign? I don't think it will, but if it does, there is a second game that's being played down there. You see what that is? And that is called win the New Hampshire primary,
Starting point is 01:15:21 and you're gonna win more support. Now let's go to Iowa. Look at Nikki Haley. Boy, what a shot there. Now in Iowa, look who's number three. Nikki Haley. Now is 8.8. Clearly above Ramaswani now. So what is happening is in the polls that matter is where we're going to be voting in these. And it's not a fair game. Iowa and New Hampshire are going to be springboards of contributions and support and everything. But I look at it and Nikki Haley is running a really good campaign. And she is now honestly number two in these states and gaining momentum bit by bit, including
Starting point is 01:15:57 with these headlines. May or may not be clear about her. I still, I still think he did it, Tom. You know what? I think he did it because there's a clip of him speaking a couple days ago, Pat, where I think Rob has it. I don't know if you saw this list where he's talking about how they're trying to be environmentally safe and he said while he was a president, somebody came to him from the DOD and they were like, sir, we have a new fighter jet that we want.
Starting point is 01:16:18 It's environmentally friendly and he goes, who gives a damn if it's the fight? We're dropping bombs and shooting people. Who gives the damn, Rob, do you have that? So that's why it's supposed to scream. He's hilarious, listen to that. I think there's music though. Is there music? Oh damn, but it is hilarious.
Starting point is 01:16:34 If you haven't seen that clip, that's why he's a comedian. He's not wrong. Yeah, he's 100% told you so I was like, with that type of humor, I wouldn't see him. I wouldn't put a pass on pat that he sent this. I want to know who actually said that. We're making jets that are environmentally friendly. Well, they want to make they want they suggested making one that is environment. What part of war is environmentally friendly?
Starting point is 01:16:52 Tell me that's that's the iron. Irony like that's the I'm pretty put by pat you know the department of the the Dio D is probably for sure going listen some won't guy like let's make a jet that you know is and he's like are you we're dropping bombs on these people? Who gives the sheet about the environment? I don't know. We're going to kill you brother, but you know what, we got him a life insurance policy first. I wouldn't put this past the DOD though. I mean, I'd argue that the people up is a former recycling.
Starting point is 01:17:17 But back to Nikki Haley, we were at the R&C debates, I don't know, four days ago, a week ago, whenever that was in Seamy Valley, California. I actually performed very well. I thought she was the winner of the debate. I had her first. The Santas was kind of up there. You saw that in a national poll, I know that we're not crediting national polls, that she's actually the one person in the race who would significantly beat Biden, not Trump,
Starting point is 01:17:45 not the Santa's, Nikki Haley. So what we do know is he actually did call her bird brain. That's not like fake. Yeah, he did. He tweeted it. And, you know, if we trust modern journalism today, journalists more computer confirmed the bird cage was sent by the Trump campaign.
Starting point is 01:18:03 But to me, that's irrelevant, whether he's sent it or didn't sent it. To me is the fact that he said it. We all know that his jokes and his slurs. I love Rob, you have the clip? You have the clip with no music? Hold on, man. My bag.
Starting point is 01:18:14 The deeper thing here, and I have mixed feelings on Trump, and I've slowly coming around to at least understanding where he's at. Because I do think there is a, two things can be true at once. I do think the media, the deep state, the matrix, there is an agenda to bring this man down. I don't think that's deniable at this point. And at first it was Russia, Russia, Russia.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Well it turns out, it's actually some fake news going on. Yeah, some. But at the same time, he could also be sort of a reckless, wrecking ball narcissistic as many people call him man child. That's fine. Two things can be true at once, okay? Just because you're this way, doesn't mean that the media or the deep state should attack you.
Starting point is 01:19:01 So I understand why he has vengeance and he's vindictive and he's essentially seeking retribution for whatever wrongdoing he sees. But more importantly, the wrongdoing that he's fighting for in the Republican base. Totally understand that. My question is this. So I don't know if you saw what his former chief of staff, his longest standing chief of staff, General John Kelly came out with this weekend, a scathing rebuke. My question is this, Nikki Haley, Bird Brain,
Starting point is 01:19:33 he selected her to be the ambassador of the UN. Why would you select a bird brain to represent your country? You selected Mike Pence to be your vice president. Why would you select someone that is disloyal and doesn't have your back to be your BP? He selected Bill Burr. He selected Mike Pompeo. He selected Chris Christie to be the person
Starting point is 01:19:55 that would train him. He selected Scaremucci to be my only question. This is an statement. My only question is why are all the closest people that he's selected now his biggest detractors? This is in a statement. My only question is, why are all the closest people that he's selected now his biggest detractors? And that's something that he needs to address, my opinion. Well, I mean, he can't, go ahead, Liz.
Starting point is 01:20:13 I actually agree with that. I think that Trump was a very good president for three years. I don't think he handled COVID very well in his fourth year. But I think one of his shortcomings was how he always ended contentiously with various staff members. I don't think that that's a very positive commentary on him. I will say I thought Nikki Haley was a fantastic ambassador to the UN. She did a really, really good job there.
Starting point is 01:20:35 I don't think that the Republican electorate is going to like her regardless of whether Trump is running or not, because the vast majority of the Republican electorate right now is against the war in Ukraine and against sending more US money to Ukraine. And Nikki Haley never met a war she didn't like. She's kind of, she's kind of this generation's neocon. And I don't think that that's a good match. And she's very outspoken about it too. So I think that there's a pretty big mismatch.
Starting point is 01:20:58 I think she'd have a hard time even if Trump were out of the picture, which I don't think he will be. But I think she'd have a hard time winning support from Republicans who, especially the Republicans who understand that sending so much, so many US dollars to Ukraine is devaluing our dollar, which is increasing inflation, which is going to cause the rest of the world to discard the US dollar, which is going to lose us our economic power in the world, which is really our biggest strength. I mean, there's an existential threat to our country that's happening in Ukraine, and it's
Starting point is 01:21:26 not just the actual battles that are being fought there. It's the policy, and she's in support of it. Yeah, well Liz, I don't disagree with the quant. You just made there, that's a very good quant, but when you look at it, the voters are going to go with the choices they have, and it's all the choices that are on the ballot. And she's on the ballot versus these other choices. And that's, that's, that's the plate plate of fruit to pick from. And so you, you look at it right now, she's shining and she's showing, you know, demonstrable. And by the way, I'm not, I'm not voting yet.
Starting point is 01:21:57 So I'm not lobbying here. I'm saying objectively polls are showing in key states and on national reaction polls that Adam was talking about, that she is reflecting well against the other alternatives. And I think what you may be, what you may be saying differently, or what may be behind your point, which I would support, is that the truth of what America really feels on a broad scale, there's not really the choice that they would overwhelmingly go for based on their absolute proven and defined views. Can I ask, no, that's not.
Starting point is 01:22:30 Can I ask, can I ask, any a question? A story, a question. But you can tell great stories. Purely out of genuine curiosity, I love the exchange you had with Steve Schmidt last week, shout out to you that Clip 1 viral, you did your thing. You know, part of what gave you credence and credibility it's Steve Schmidt last week shout out to you that clip one viral. You did your thing. Part of what gave you credence and credibility was like, look, I served in the freaking military. I was there. I wore the uniform. I was in the Air Force. Then there's this whole conversation
Starting point is 01:22:57 about Trump versus the generals, right? Whether it's General Milley, General Kelly, whether it's General Milley, General Kelly, who was his first general that Matt Sipala interviewed at Maddog Mattis. A lot of these guys are finding issue with Trump. So I'm just gonna read the words and I wanna get your thoughts. This is Kelly, General Kelly, his chief of staff, basically saying my issue with him
Starting point is 01:23:22 was that he thought that all wounded soldiers were suckers. He did not want to be seen in any sort of parade with them. He didn't want them around. And this is a guy, this is the general saying, this is hearsay, this is, is it proof that is, I, because again, Adam, I always want proof. I always want proof. He said it. Wait, wait, I want to see or hear where he actually said it.
Starting point is 01:23:42 That's where I'm going to go to. Okay. Okay. Because I know where you're going. We know what he said about McCain being captured. Do you want the proof we can roll the tape? No, I heard that. He's not part. Yeah, he's not, he's not, he's not Jesus Christ, Adam. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,
Starting point is 01:23:56 I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, these are true, does this not give you some sort of pause? If it is true, they're true. Of course, it would bother some of mind you. He what he said about McCain, not the coolest thing. When when when blows come the blow, bro, this guy, like I said, gamer, and doesn't like anybody betraying or anybody talking shit. And going back to your initial point,
Starting point is 01:24:20 when you talked about who was a Pompeo, who was all his bill bar, all these people, what are the choices that Trump have? He's coming in, he wanted a run independent, couldn't, had to become Republican. Now once you're in, you didn't even really think that you were gonna win. Now you're in, does he really have a choice, Liz, on who he picks as all these people, meaning,
Starting point is 01:24:40 he doesn't, they were telling him, Mike Pence is probably gonna be your best choice. This person person the generals You don't know true. They're already appointed all these other people in this circle at them You had to have them and then guess what gradually throughout time, you know people's true colors show Nikki Haley maybe yet he liked your at the beginning But then she turns on him and his attitude changes I'll say something here to move on guys We got 27 minutes like I'm X7 call. I can't go over today, today's Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:25:06 So a couple of things I will say, one, I don't know if I would say bird brain after this podcast, after this debate. Why? Complete different reason. When you're choosing VP, you need the other people to think that she could be a possible candidate to be a VP. As a president, you have to be unpredictable when it comes onto your VP. Why are you already undermining her?
Starting point is 01:25:32 It automatically tells everybody that's not the VP. Why are you doing that? Strategically, it doesn't make any sense. There's no reason to say something like this with bird brain. Just leave it alone, okay? To make a comment like that. I think for me, it's more coming from the strategy standpoint. You're giving too much up by every time somebody's doing good
Starting point is 01:25:50 on the GOP debate. You know what he is saying to everybody? What he's saying to everybody is the fact that his VP's not on that stage. That's what he's saying. So the VP's not, so is it gonna be Christy? Is that who you're gonna go after? And maybe you're not gonna take Pence
Starting point is 01:26:02 because it's like you lost Indiana anyway, so what was the purpose of getting Pence? Maybe you got the Christian voter, but you lost Indiana. So you figure Christians like, well, you trying to win Dakota? Well, no, it doesn't matter anyway. So he's giving too much of his hand, which is not of him when it comes down to this.
Starting point is 01:26:17 That's the only thing I would say. Second thing is, you said something very offensive on who he fired. You said he fired Bill Burr. He never fired Bill Burr. He never fired Bill I want to make sure we clarify that's very offensive when you go after comedian life that's I love the guy It was Bill Barr. He fired Bill Burr would never be fired under Trump. It just wouldn't happen
Starting point is 01:26:39 I could see Bill Burr and the comedian Don Rickles, aka Don Trump. Going on tour together. So anyways, let's go to the next one Liz. You went after Tristan Tate, August 8th, a month ago, two months ago, he said the following, Liz Willer claims Tristan Tate teaching young men how to deceive women and take their virginity. A conservative political commentator, this girl named Liz Willer, I think you would like this lady,
Starting point is 01:27:01 and podcast host recently criticized Tristan Tate, brother of Andrew Tate, allegedly promoting deceptive tactics towards women Wheeler shared a video where Tate discussed dating and said, Tristan Tate teaches young men how to lie to innocent women to take their virginity. I'll do two or three virgins per year. I'll teach you how Jordan Peterson even responded
Starting point is 01:27:22 and supported you, saying, for advocating family values and discipline, join the criticism by sharing Wheeler's tweet and warning about the potential consequences of weak men influenced by Tate's advice. Peterson wrote, if you think strong men are dangerous, wait until you see what weak men are capable of, sincerely, someone a while ago. If you want to play the clip, I don't know if you have the video or not or it's just a tweet. No, I put the clip, I don't know if you have the video or not, or if you just a tweet. No, I put the video on the tweet.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Okay, so go back to that tweet and see, if you go, click on, there you go. Yeah, listen to this. All right, let's watch this, and then let's get your take, and then we'll give our feedback here. Ain't like me, and meet the women who I meet, and roll in the circles I meet,
Starting point is 01:28:03 you meet beautiful virgins sometimes. Me, I'll do two or three virgins a year. Now how do you date a virgin when you're a when you're a ice-cold player? There is a tactic which I'm going to share with you on how to date a virgin and how to take a girl's virginity. Now the recipe hasn't changed, but the tactics and the implementation has certainly changed. Be their boyfriend for three months
Starting point is 01:28:33 and be in a nice relationship with her. That is the recipe. I'm sorry guys, you wanna run into a virgin and fuck her the next day? Don't ask me how, I don't know. I don't think anyone knows. I don't even think it's possible. You have to be their boyfriend for an extended period of time. You then have to take a virginity
Starting point is 01:28:51 on the second month anniversary, put something along those lines, and I'm going to teach you how to do it while still being in a place. You can pause it here. So it's a two minute video, commentary, thoughts on this, why you have a problem with this? Well, I mean, the words that he used make it pretty clear. He said, I'm going to teach you a strategy. I'm going to teach you a tactic, how to manipulate a girl into sleeping with her, to deceive her into thinking that she is loved by me in order to exploit her, objectify her, and have sex with her. That's pretty disgusting, I think, by anybody's standards. Adam? I think one more comment I will make.
Starting point is 01:29:26 The reason that I criticize him specifically or that I've criticized Andrew Tate is because, at one point, Andrew Tate was the most Googled man in the world. He's incredibly influential among young men. And the reason, it's very interesting why he's influential, because he accurately diagnoses a serious cultural problem in the West. He accurately notes that masculinity is under assault,
Starting point is 01:29:46 that men are told that they're toxic and bad. And he actually, to his credit, has the courage to say, I'm gonna push back against this. I'm gonna tell men to be men, the problem is that once he accurately diagnosis the problem, his antidote, what he prescribed, is self-destructive. He doesn't actually teach young men how to be good, strong men.
Starting point is 01:30:04 He instead leads them towards pornography and materialism and exploitation of women in worship of self. So I think that makes him more dangerous because he does accurately diagnose a problem, but then his prescription for it is to lead young men astray. So is your biggest issue with Andrew and Tristan that virgin video or sort of symptom a larger problem that you have with them overall. I mean, that video is an example of the point that I make when people say that Andrew and Tristan Tater are good role models for young men. I don't think that's a good role model for
Starting point is 01:30:32 young men. Do you think? To learn how to manipulate and lie and deceive women into having sex. I actually want to address that, but I just actually want to understand your perspective genuinely. Do you think that the Tate Brothers for men specifically are a positive net value, positive net role model or negative? Negative. I think they lead young men towards self-destruction. Okay, so you think that the words that they're saying, not the little clips, but their overall message, is bad for men? Not good? Yes, because what are they telling men? They're telling men you're attacked, you're a victim, and that resonates with men because that is a valid grievance, especially in American culture. That's why they've become so popular here.
Starting point is 01:31:10 They were popular in Europe and in Britain, but they're so popular here the last couple of years because there is a war on masculinity. Young men are feminized, and it's a powerful thing when you take a valid grievance and then tell someone that the solution to that grievance is something that actually harms them. So I actually think they're more self-destructive than some people on the left because they're playing on a valid problem and prescribing something that's harmful to your men. Just to be clear, what do you think that their prescription is for men? Pornography, materialism, exploitation of women and worship of self.
Starting point is 01:31:39 That's what you think their message is to men. That is what they, you can read all of their stuff, listen to all their stuff. I've extensively listened to all of their advice for young men and they literally say, if you are not extremely wealthy, you are not a real man. Money is the most valuable thing. Like, money's great. We're all trying to make a living here.
Starting point is 01:31:57 We're all trying to make money, but it is not the most valuable thing. That is a message of materialism. They've run pornography business. That's how they got rich. That's how they got famous. That's how they got famous. They pretend to back away from it now, just to avoid criticism.
Starting point is 01:32:09 But it's really just because they don't need to do that anymore. They constantly are talking about how to be a top G and how to manipulate women. I think that's an incredibly destructive message. Do you think that's positive for young men? A lot of it I do, and I'll tell you why. That video, do you think that video? No, I'll just add that video.
Starting point is 01:32:24 But what's interesting is he actually added new on his approach that you need to date them to three months. But how many women are going to date a guy for three months that they are not interested in that is not there for them that is not providing for them. Then I was not protecting from them. That isn't there for them. You don't just slip in and fall into a virgin. I totally understand that is you actually need to date these women. So at that point, it's the woman's decision. So my question to you is, how many men? You don't think that's deceptive? Like he's deceiving them.
Starting point is 01:32:51 He doesn't actually care about them. He's doing things to make them think that he cares about them. You know what? Welcome to modern day dating, baby. Like this is what happens out there. Men do this with women, women do this with men. And you don't think that's destructive? I think it is what it is.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Whether it's destructive or not is your opinion. Do you think it is? I'm interested in your opinion. Do you think that that's a harmful dating dynamic? I don't think that that is my objective to dating, going out there and taking virginities. That's not my thing. What?
Starting point is 01:33:16 What going out and dating multiple women? I've done that forever. But do you think it's an honest thing to do with my man in the neighborhood? I don't want to focus on the virginity. I want to focus on the bigger message here. No, you're missing the point, Liz. What percentage of men are millionaires in the world?
Starting point is 01:33:30 I don't think that's the point. The point is what they're telling you about that. I'm asking you a question, Ms. Liz Wheeler, because I respect your opinion, your beautiful, your smart, your educated, what percentage of men are millionaires? I don't know. Take a guess, you're smart.
Starting point is 01:33:42 I have no idea. You have Z. I'll Google it. Fine. Okay. Tell me the answer if you want the answer. I'm interested in your point. 8% of men, let's say.
Starting point is 01:33:50 What percentage of men are six foot with six packs? We just did this earlier. I mean, I'm not six foot, but okay. What percentage of six packs? All right, I don't even know. Why you're googling this? Millionaires. Millionaires. Six foot. I don't even know why you're googling this million air million air six foot
Starting point is 01:34:06 abs in shape Actually a man who is good looking fit takes care of his person a man who can provide protect be present for his woman These to become the top G. Liz What does G mean? What does that mean to you a fucking top gangster? Like a top what does that mean a top like a top G. Well, what does that mean? A top, like a top male, a high value male. Alpha male. Basically you're saying, what do you love about your husband? Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:34:29 I love that he is godly. I love that he is a man of virtue. I love that he is strong. I love that he is a man of integrity. I love that he is a big love. I love that he is a big love. I'll tell you what your husband. Five, ten.
Starting point is 01:34:38 He's five, ten. He probably runs up to the US Navy. So he's a court patrol. So hold on. He's just a stud. I met your husband. Yeah, yeah. I did. So let me get this stud. He's a stud. I met your husband. We had lunch with him, right?
Starting point is 01:34:46 I did. So let me get this straight. He's a tall, good-looking, studly man who's done well for himself. Yes. Okay. Don't you think it's incumbent on most men to try to accomplish that? To be materially successful. I didn't say that.
Starting point is 01:34:58 To be good-looking, successful, leader, in shape, lead men. Don't you think that's important for men? I think the number one most important thing for men to do is to try to be godly. That's your opinion. It is, yes. Okay, that's your opinion. I'm answering your question though,
Starting point is 01:35:14 you're asking my opinion. I think those things are important. I think the most important thing for a man to do is to be godly, I think, to provide and protect his children. So why do you marry a priest? Why do you marry a priest? Priests don't get married? Okay, well, that's their bad.
Starting point is 01:35:26 But there are some pastors that do get married. It's when you marry a pastor. If that's the most important thing. But the family unit, the marriage, it's a domestic... It's a domestic church. It's the domestic church. It's a domestic church.
Starting point is 01:35:36 Take a picture. Pressure off the altar, boys. I mean, I feel like you're trying to see what you're going with this. Okay. I'm not going to go with this either. The point is this, you're lambasting this man for accomplishing what very few men can accomplish.
Starting point is 01:35:51 The fact that he's made all this. Repeat to me what I said. When you say lambasting for what he's accomplished, I don't care how much money he has. What did I say my problem? Why are you focused on the money? What did I say my problem was the industry? You're missing the entire point of my point.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Tell me what you're pointing at. Why do so many men, so many men, not just impressionable 13 year olds, men, grown ass motherfucking men, 40 years old, successful, good values, moral compass, strong leaders, why do those men find him fascinating and resonate with him? Answer me that.
Starting point is 01:36:24 Why do grown ass men, not teenagers, actually love these kids? Let me tell you why. And it's what I said before, because they're all toxic masculinity. Do you, I mean, you live in the United States of America. You understand that the most powerful politicians and the most powerful cultural influences, James Cameron for goodness sake and Hollywood called testosterone a toxic. Men are told that if they so much as pursue a woman or ask her on a date, that they are sexually harassing.
Starting point is 01:36:52 Men right now aren't afforded due process of law. When they face frivolous allegations of sexual misconduct that could be to the level of criminal conduct, do you understand how vulnerable this makes young men? Yeah, because of a man. I understand what it is. I know, that's what I think. I'm asking why men resonate with him. Because of how powerfully men react to being attacked.
Starting point is 01:37:13 And then you have Androtate and Tristan Tate coming in and saying, I see you and that attack that's happening against you is wrong. You don't have to face that. I'm going to give you the secret to avoiding that into succeeding anyway when everything from the education system to our legal system to our culture is telling men that they are worthless, that they are bad, that they're inherently rapists. I mean, it's bad what's happening to men. They come in and say, I have a solution so that you don't have to live that. That's more powerful than a drug atom. That's why men find it attractive.
Starting point is 01:37:42 You bring up a good point, but you've never been a man. So you're arguing with me, a grown-ass man, and amongst other men, what it's like to be a man and what we're feeling. I can assure you this, my lovely friend, the number one thing that men are not taking from Andriutatis, the matriarchies coming against you and you can't go out and talk to women. It's actually the exact opposite. It's, oh, you want warm women in your life? You want more success in your life?
Starting point is 01:38:11 You want better cars, bigger things, bigger dreams, more beautiful in your life, follow these steps. Not you're a victim, I understand you, I'll give you a hug. Let me show you how, what's going on? So let's do it. You used one of Andrew Tate's words that he uses to describe the attack on masculinity about an hour ago on this show.
Starting point is 01:38:29 That's how deeply Andrew Tate's message is in your own mind. I'm observing it. What's the word? What's the word? The Matrix. He's the one that made that word aft long after the movie become a staple in every young man's vocabulary. The Matrix is after you.
Starting point is 01:38:44 Here's how you avoid the matrix. Here's how you're successful in spite of the matrix. I'm not telling you how to feel. You can feel however you want. I'm observing how young that react. Because I said the word. Let's ask a different question here. Let me, because I'm still trying to figure out,
Starting point is 01:38:56 okay, so Tom, question for you. That video right there, with how to take three virginities per year. What do you think about it? As a father of two girls, would you want your daughters to watch that video? Well, I'll speak as a person who once upon a time wasn't a father of two girls.
Starting point is 01:39:13 I see what they're doing, and they're providing a prescription for basically men that are under attack and modern society. And I think it's pretty horrifying. However, what's equally horrifying is there are, you know, this is not one-sided. There are women that are living in this fallen world who do not have godly foundations who are playing into it as well.
Starting point is 01:39:39 So this is not a zero game, but it's indicative of a fallen world that lives without foundation that will be led to the most base of our animal instincts. And I think they're providing a very intricate plan on how to play and roam and succeed in that construct. That's the construct of life we have. And you know what? It's not my construct. And it's not a construct that I want my daughters
Starting point is 01:40:12 to buy into or be a part of, but it's a construct. But there's women that are playing into that without Godly foundations as well. And that's the game. Okay, so let me give my feedback and we can go to the next story. Number one, I don't know why he makes that video.
Starting point is 01:40:31 I would never make a video like that to say how many virginities you take per year, et cetera, et cetera. If you date, you know, oh, oh, oh, and if you have a sister, your dynamics changes in the way you view the world, you know, because you're so protective of your sister, so in your mind, if you're afraid of God and you have the fear of God, you fear what you do to girls, one day it's going to come back and someone's going to do to your sister, or they're going to do to your kids.
Starting point is 01:40:56 So that fear of God is a very powerful thing to have. I had that since I was a kid, so it messed with me a lot because I had an older sister and I'm super protective now For me My daughters are going to watch that video Smart. I'm gonna have both of my girls watch that video when they get to an age and I'm gonna say hey check the South girls Here's a guy named Tristan. Okay. I've spent time with them. I actually like this guy and by the way If you're also not to careful you will also like guys like this, because they're out there,
Starting point is 01:41:26 because they're charming, they're sexy, they're attractive, but their outcomes are different outcomes. So someone is going to try to take your virginity away from you. You only get to say that once. God willing, it's your choice, and it's somebody you love that maybe leads to you getting married or you save yourself. That's a choice you got to make as an individual. And as a parent, you got to prepare them, okay?
Starting point is 01:41:48 As a putting them in the right environment, God, all of those things you got to do yourself. So one, they're watching that video to know exactly what some of the tactics may be. Number two, I think strategies out there most men have no clue on how to data grow, no clue on how to data grow. There are strategies on how to data co-worker. There are strategies on how to date, you know, areas, what markets to target. Heck, there was a documentary wedding crashers where you can go, you know, and target a funeral. If you remember remember Will Ferrell rocked the funeral, right? That was it. I watched that documentary many times.
Starting point is 01:42:28 I'm libbed, did some watched it. But to Neil, what's the guys? The Neil Strauss wrote the book, the game, one of the guy, him and I were talking. I'm at Harvard, I'm talking to the guy in 2015. I said, Neil, I want to bring you on. I'll never forget what he said. He says, Pat, I don't want to talk about the book, the game. I said, why?
Starting point is 01:42:45 It's because I'm actually married right now with kids. My life's changed. I actually never wanted to. Now, I'm embarrassed of writing that book. Some words to you, right? Good fun. But here's the point. The point is, he may be going through that phase one day.
Starting point is 01:42:58 And he may say good for him. For us to expect and look at Tristan and Andrew as their Jesus and they walk on water, that's not my standard of anybody. I learned a long time ago if you have that standard of anybody, you'll be disappointed very quickly. But the amount of influence that they're having out there on boys and what they're doing, if there isn't a father figure that's teaching those things, kids are going to gravity to somebody like that, that's going to inspire them. I think they're doing more good for society than bad if you ask me. I think they're fighting the fight and unfortunately sometimes the people that we want to fight the fight will never meet
Starting point is 01:43:34 a hundred percent of everybody's criteria. Never. The people who had the courage to go up against the biggest bullies of all time were never people you would have said, I like a hundred things out of a hundred things that this guy stands for. No, they're typically very, very complicated human beings that have lived very weird lives, that have been tough lives, that they have some scars, they have some vengeance in them, but they're fearless. And to get that kind of fearlessness requires a pretty shitty life
Starting point is 01:44:00 to live, to get to a point like that. Some people that I've lived a very proper life, mom and dad would marry the entire time, they were together, they were not grown in the streets. My parents got two divorces from each other for 20 years. Certain lives are creating different kinds of human beings. I don't sit there and say, that is the gold standard on every single thing
Starting point is 01:44:16 you should do with your life. I say, yeah, you know what, that's a pretty crazy video to make, you know what, if I was friends with you at that time, I would tell you, what are you doing making this video? Let's take this thing down, this year. It's not isolated, isn't it? So here's what I hear that you're saying. You can correct me if I'm wrong. I hear you saying that time, I will tell you, what are you doing making this video? Let's take this thing down. This is not isolated. So here's what I hear that you're saying.
Starting point is 01:44:25 You can correct me if I'm wrong. I hear you saying that the type of behavior that he was encouraging and training young men in, and this is the type of stuff that's behind their paywall if you join their hustler university or whatever they call it. So you're saying that you would view that as a threat to your daughters
Starting point is 01:44:37 because you're gonna show them, show this video to your daughters in order to warn them about young men who would take advantage of them sexually by deceiving them into thinking that they're cared about. I'm surrounded by players. I mean, I, I, I, you view that as a threat to your own children, which means that you don't view what Androtate and Tristan Tate are bringing to young men as something positive because what they're doing is they're training other young men to behave like that.
Starting point is 01:44:58 Yeah. They do have an incredible opportunity. I acknowledge what you're saying. They came from a hard background and they've been financially successful. I would argue that they were financially successful for immoral reasons. I mean, they ran a pornography business. That's not really something to be proud of.
Starting point is 01:45:13 It's not something that you want to inspire and other young men is to run only fans' accounts, not give the girls the passwords, manipulate them into staying in the house. I mean, that's not really a positive thing. But if they, if they, if this is what they're teaching to young men, then the next generation of young men who may not be as wise as you are and saying,
Starting point is 01:45:30 I don't put anybody on a pedestal, I don't view anyone as a savior. They do view these guys as a savior because it's the only people, it's the only people that are telling them, like yes, you have a valid grievance with your masculinity being attacked. We're gonna have a culture of young men in 10 years
Starting point is 01:45:45 who are objectifying women using them and modifying their bodies. If I have a choice. If I have a binary choice between the current educational system, that's getting people to go from traditionalist point 8% then being part of the LGBTQ party community. We can say party or really.
Starting point is 01:46:03 Party or whatever. Sure, whatever you wanna you want to call it. It's a party. And you got boomers is what? Two percent. And you got millennials is whatever. Then next one is when then Gen Z is our 21%. If that in doctrine is turning one out of five people kids to be part of LGBTQ and these
Starting point is 01:46:18 guys are not, I would much rather have them listen to this guy just to be fair with you. Can I make one quick point? So you got 20 seconds. Everything's about. You got 20 seconds because we got to move on. I got 15 minutes. I like it. Everything's about evolving and getting better.
Starting point is 01:46:31 I would argue that that video was done many, many years ago. And I think they have evolved. That's their defense. Okay. So you read the game. I read the game. Most guys will want to read something like that to get more women.
Starting point is 01:46:42 At some point you're going to evolve. I'll give one last thing. I started reading P.B.D's book over the week. Choose your enemies wisely, okay? They have chosen their enemies very wisely. And in many cases, the enemies have chosen them. But Pat, in the beginning of the book, talks about logic versus emotion.
Starting point is 01:46:58 What is not good emotions is actually what these guys talk about. And it's the foundation of stoicism. What is not good emotion is being sensitive, illogical, weak-minded, impulsive, irrational, and just being a pussy. But what is good emotion is having passion, stoicism, being hyper obsessed with what you want to accomplish, being relentless, being powerful,
Starting point is 01:47:23 and having purpose. And I would argue that the Tates try to bring out those types of emotions, the good emotions in men. Okay, good. Let's go to the next story here. All right, so which one do we want to go to with the time that we have left? Do we want to do new some $20 an hour?
Starting point is 01:47:37 Do we want to do the census bill more? Do we want to do gates? McCarthy, do we want to do shocking number of Europeans on a number of times to fly? Do we want to do Kelsey? Taylor Swift, which one do you want to do shocking number of Europeans on a number of times to fly? Do we want to do Kelsey Taylor Swift? Which one do you want to do? Taylor Swift, I mean, we have, we have the conservative Taylor Swift sitting right here. I mean, I got something funny with Taylor Swift and I want to Taylor Swift.
Starting point is 01:47:56 Here we go. Okay, then that's what we'll do. We'll do Taylor Swift and we'll do the Bowman guy. So Taylor Swift has the NFL on notice as her economic dominance spreads, okay? So page eight So Taylor Swift had transcended her role as a megastar and emerge as an economic powerhouse Her I'm sorry, you want to read this part? You want to read this for page eight? I think it's important for you to read this part. I love reading because you speak. It's an issyrian word
Starting point is 01:48:24 I love yeah,. I love reading that. Because you speak. It's an Assyrian word, but go ahead. All right, so Taylor Swift has transcended her role as a megastar and emerged as an economic powerhouse, her Ed As tour, which if you are a serenure listening, has a completely different meaning than what the tour actually is. We'll talk about that later. With resale tickets, you'll think about this. $3800 for an average ticket could generate $4.6 billion
Starting point is 01:48:45 in consumer spending in the US alone. The Federal Reserve acknowledged Swift's impact to local economies, citing her concerts at a catalyst for increased hotel revenue in Philadelphia. Additionally, her upcoming ERA store, or ERA store movie is expected to make a hundred million dollar box office splash, both during the struggling Hollywood industry. Taylor Swift's appearance in the NFL game between Kansas City and Chicago Bears, significantly boosted the league's popularity.
Starting point is 01:49:11 Despite the game's one-sided outcome, it drew 24.3 million average viewers with an 8.1 increase in female viewers in the 12 to 17-year-old demographic female viewers. And like, because Liz, I wanna know what you guys' opinions are. So that influence, that movement, that bringing all the eyeballs, it's to go to the political side.
Starting point is 01:49:32 She's obviously voiced her opinion on politics. We all know where she stands. The guy that she's dating, the first thing he does when they start dating, he's like, hey, get your Vax, get your shot, get your booth, get everything. I'm just, it's funny to me. It's like, you guys realize they're gonna break up.
Starting point is 01:49:49 I hope everybody out there, all the people that are just like, oh my god, this is match made in half. That's not good, it's gonna work. It's gonna work forever. But Pat, I don't say that. I thought about it, I really thought about it. You know the breakup song is gonna have to do with the NFL. You know she's in a single song that's gonna go,
Starting point is 01:50:03 you fumbled me inside the end zone, that's a penalty. You're now in the friends on Screw the Chiefs. Like that's gonna be the, when they break up, it's over. Hell with that. That was actually good. Yeah, and think about this. And guys, think about this.
Starting point is 01:50:16 When she's done with him, what happens to all those viewers and the taste of all these people's in their mouth of the NFL? What happens? What happens to the mass exit if a Swiftie? Because when she leaves, no Swifties are coming with her. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:50:29 Adam, this is, they're gonna break up for two reasons. Number one, he's a fan of Andrew Tate, Liz. I mean, he's a big, strong, strapping dude. He's actually one of those masculine dudes that is a fan of Tate. So we'll see if that works out. But they're gonna work out or not work out. So because of one main reason, out. But they're going to work out or not work out because of one
Starting point is 01:50:45 main reason, money. There's something called hypergamy. Women like dating up. So this might be fun short term. He's a fun cool football guy. He's worth 30 million. She's worth 750 million. Yeah, I hope you'll be able to treat her to dinner and take her out and treat her nice and show her good time. But he ain't flying around on private jets. He ain't traveling all around the world with her. He ain't got it like that. Now as Travis Kelsey, a stud, the man, best tied in the league arguably, no doubt. This is a whole nother level.
Starting point is 01:51:15 Big time. I know this from experience, to not get too personal. One of my best friends, dated, not dated, married a girl, more famous than Taylor Swift. Okay, Kim Kardashian. And let me tell you, 50 million, eight, one billion.
Starting point is 01:51:33 Of course. And at some point, those billionaire type women are gonna go after billionaire type men. Yeah, but Liz, you agree though. I mean, obviously this is all for politics and the visual of it. Don't you think that isn't it kind of weird that all this is happening? She's opening up about the politics. He's telling people to get the new vaccine.
Starting point is 01:51:51 Like, do you see that? My reaction when I saw his vaccine and was his heart's going to be broken by either the shot or by her, but it's an inevitable conclusion. One way or the other. One way or the other. I don't mean not to credit whoever came up with that joke. I saw it on Twitter and it was cracked me up. Listen, Taylor Swift is very interesting
Starting point is 01:52:11 because she obviously is outspoken about liberal politics, right, leftist politics. I think she's pro-borsh and I think she was against, she was against Marsha Blackburn in Tennessee. But the reason that her era's tour is so incredibly successful, like who doesn't love Taylor Swift, right? Yeah, from the Syrian tour, but go ahead. From the Syrian tour, sorry Gabriel, I love you.
Starting point is 01:52:28 The reason it's so successful is because while she preaches feminism politically, her entire bank of songs are actually anti-feminist. They speak to what young women actually desire, but are told that they culturally shouldn't. So it speaks to true love, getting married, having a family, running away together, fairy tales, this very actually family-centric, wholesome message in most of her songs, which is a contradiction of her personal life and her politics, but I think it's very interesting
Starting point is 01:52:56 because our culture tells like 12-year-olds to 17-year-old women, you should go into STEM. That's the only thing you should do. Don't focus on having babies right now. Save that for a long time. Go on birth control for 15 years. Do that. Freeze your eggs.
Starting point is 01:53:08 Save them. But what young women actually want is they want to fall in love. They want to be wives and mothers. They might have other goals. I mean, I do both, obviously. But every young woman wants that. And I think it's really interesting that she's such a liberal personally,
Starting point is 01:53:21 but she's making her money off of like, traditional... You think a single woman wants that? If I'm swimming in. We're gonna wrap up, because we can making her money off of like, traditional stuff. You think of everyone watching if I'm, if I'm, we're gonna wrap up because we, we, we couldn't hit other stories. It's 11.02. If I'm the CMO of MLB time, you know what I'm doing? We're putting an entire campaign together for Shohei O'Tani to date Taylor Swift. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:53:39 This is way too much eyeballs the way from the MLB and I don't appreciate it. We're gonna create a breakup. And his next contract solves a hypergamy. Yeah, it should be like a season of the bachelor at, but like professional athletes, which lead, that's hilarious. Leak. Anyways, take a list. If you can wrap it up and give us 30 seconds about this book, Hide Your Children, why
Starting point is 01:54:01 you wrote it, what's in it, and then we'll wrap up the podcast. Yeah, yeah. You guys can get it at hideyourchildrenbook.com or wherever books are sold. I wrote this because I, like most parents in the country, have been shocked at the assaults on our children from critical race theory, it transgender ideology to 1619 project. And I wondered, who's behind this? Where's this coming from? What's their goal? So I dug into that. And the first half of this book, I named the names of the people and the organizations that are behind each one of those attacks, just like the queer theory stuff we talked about. And the second half of the book, I actually provide a solution, which is different than
Starting point is 01:54:32 the Republican Party. It's actually critique of the Republican Party because I think we've been fighting very poorly against these cultural forces for the last couple decades. So I propose a different solution for how we can actually start winning for once and protect our kids. I love it, guys. Go order the book. We'll put the link below. Just came out a week ago.
Starting point is 01:54:50 Hydro children exposing the Marxist behind the attack on America's kids. Take everyone back. I said one thing too. Tampa, I'm coming to Tampa, improv, October 18th for one night, one show. Tampa, improv. Is that your birthday? October 18th, Tampa. I love it. I may join you, improv October 18th for one night, one show, camp the improv. Is that your birthday?
Starting point is 01:55:05 October 18th, I love it. Can you fly? I love it. I may join you. So October 18th, I love it. The equivalent is on my Instagram, my bio. Sick, love it. Okay guys, take everybody, we'll do this again.
Starting point is 01:55:16 Are we doing anything Thursday or? Thursday and culture, and then on Friday, we have Tim Poole and Jimmy Doer joining us. Friday or Saturday, you? Saturday, I'm sorry. Saturday morning. So Jimmy Doer and Tim Pohl. Yes sir. That should be interesting.
Starting point is 01:55:26 Okay, take care everybody. Bye bye, bye bye. you

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