PBD Podcast - Home Team with Roger Stone | PBD Podcast | Ep. 331

Starting point is 00:00:00 I Did you ever think you were make it I feel I'm so sorry to take sweet the story. I know this life meant for me Yeah, why would you bet on the life when we got bet David? Value payment given values contagious this world on your panels when we got bet David value came in giving values Contagents were to on your panors. We can't no value to hate it. I'd be running home. You look what I've become Episode three or three a lot going on right now with one being open AI 700 out of 770

Starting point is 00:00:49 A.I. 700 out of 770 employees at a company worth $86 billion dollars have threatened to leave and possibly go to Microsoft to follow a man called Sam Altman who was fired by the board and Microsoft only found out a minute prior to that. We're going to talk about that today. If you can just go to Tom and see how much I'm going to be so paid for. He's in my area. He's ready for that. He's in my area. Two, we have Argentina had a wild man, the Elvis of Argentina, wins the election. We got a couple clips to show one that no one's ever seen before. We'll may, you know, show you a glimpse of that clip as well. He lost it. He lost it. That won't clip no one's ever seen before. We'll show you a glimpse of that clip as well. I lost it.

Starting point is 00:01:26 He lost it. That one clip no one's ever seen. We'll show that here to you. And then we've got a few other things going on. We have Roger Stone in the house. The reason why Roger Stone's in the house is one because this man's got very interesting takes. He's lived a very...

Starting point is 00:01:42 He's a qualified... You're a qualified, unusual suspect, that was, qualified. But also tomorrow happens to be the sixth year anniversary of the assassination of John F. Kennedy. And one of the best books written on that, New York Times bestseller, Demand Who Killed Kennedy, a case against LBJ, if you've never read this book,

Starting point is 00:02:05 we're gonna put the link below as well for you to go order this book. And we're gonna talk about that as well, so Roger's great to have you on. Great to be here. Yes, so we got a lot to go through story wise. I say we get right into it if that's okay with you. Let's do it.

Starting point is 00:02:17 So let's start off with, I wanna say, let's start off with OpenAI. Okay, let's start off with OpenAI on what happened over the weekend. So Microsoft says, Altman, Brockman will lead new in-house AI team, which makes no sense because when you think about Chad GBT,

Starting point is 00:02:39 you think about a man named Sam Altman, okay? And let me read a little bit more on what Microsoft is telling us here. So Sam Altman, okay? And let me read a little bit more on what Microsoft is telling us here. So, Sam Altman has been appointed, who is the co-founder of OpenAI to lead its new in-house AI team with Microsoft. Following Altman's outsting from his startup, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella,

Starting point is 00:02:59 Express Enthusiasm for this move. Stating, I'm super excited to have you join as CEO of this new group, Sam setting a new pace for innovation this decision comes after a series of dramatic events involving Microsoft and open AI including Altman and Greg Brockman Leaving the latter company Microsoft has been investing heavily in open AI with a roughly 49% stake and a significant focus on integrating open AI technology into its lineup. Apparently 700 out of their 770 employees at open AI have said their leaving. The partners said their leaving. A bunch of different things are going on. No one has more insight on this than our friend, your Tom. Tom, what is your take on what's going on here

Starting point is 00:03:42 with open AI? Well, a bunch of things have happened overnight. I think everybody saw and everybody, even if you are a sports only news fan and we're only watching football over the weekend, you saw that the board, a guy named Ilia Satskiver, goes to the board and says, hey, you know, we had a lot of concerns here with Sam, Giver goes to the board and says hey, you know, we had a lot of concerns here with Sam And they fire him on Friday all hell breaks loose Microsoft is like hey, what was that what's going on down there? They didn't even know about it and then on Saturday, you know, Altman's like I don't know if I want to go back Maybe I do maybe I don't and Sunday Altman goes to the to the office there and it's funny He he tweets or he puts a post on X of a guess badge.

Starting point is 00:04:27 Like, here he is. Can you show this picture? Yeah, he says, this is the last time I'm a when we were in a guess badge at this company that I've been driving in the future of AI. Well yesterday, some really crazy things happen. So let's add to it. Yesterday, Microsoft says, you know, with 700, Microsoft's got a $13 billion investment in here, and you've got Thrive Capital,

Starting point is 00:04:52 Coastal Adventures, and Tiger Global. By the way, Coastal Adventures led by the great, you know, Vino Coastal himself, who is saying, hey, I want Sam back there. Thrive says me too, Tiger says me too, because they all have investment in OpenAI. And Microsoft is like, well, we'll work with Altman, no matter what is what Nadella said.

Starting point is 00:05:16 And then Nadella said, irrespective where Sam is, Microsoft, or back at OpenAI, something he said yesterday, he said, he's working with Microsoft. So Nadella looks at it that way. I've got $13 billion in OpenAI. If he's working for us with Brockman, that's great. Yesterday, yesterday something broke, that was very interesting. Ilya Satsukiver,

Starting point is 00:05:38 officiated Greg Brockman's wedding to him and Anne. So there is a close dynamic there. Ilya did not think Brockman was gonna walk with Sam. Wow. Did not think. So Bob, Rob. And it is. And so when he does that and all the employees have now

Starting point is 00:05:57 signed this, the other investors are worried now. Wait a minute, because Nadella goes yesterday on news coverage and says at at this point, I think it's very clear something has to change their own governance for the future. And for all of them that wish to leave, you have opportunities to work on our AI initiative at Microsoft. So Microsoft is basically saying, hey, don't worry about benefits. If you leave, you're here, which

Starting point is 00:06:23 led the other investors to completely freak out. And yesterday, if you got the, if you got the tweet, Elias says, I am making a U turn. So this is what he did. Elias such, I deeply regret my participation in the board's action. I never wanted to harm open AI. I love everything we built, and I'll do everything I can to reunite the company. And so, same guy that broke it apart is willing to reunite now.

Starting point is 00:06:54 However Sam responded. Look at the first part of Moose. Pat, would you accept this from anybody? I don't think you would as a leader. You know what's going on. I regret my participation in the board's action. The board's action. you went to the board. It wasn't the boards action.

Starting point is 00:07:09 You went to the board. I regret my participation in the boards action. It's like you voted with the board. You didn't. You went there and said, this is what we have to do. Sam's got to go. This is what it is. The other thing that happened overnight,

Starting point is 00:07:21 which I think you'll find interesting. Check this out. After they let Sam go, they called Dario Amodai. Who is Dario Amodai? Dario Amodai is the co-founder and CEO of the number one rival to open AI and Thropic. And they said, do you want to be CEO? We're letting Sam go. That was the board's plan. And they said, he said, no, I don't want to do that. And they said, what would you merge with us? So they're trying to merge the two. So look at what the board was doing.

Starting point is 00:07:56 And before the board even got, then they get a no from there. And then the board has to run around. And before Emmett Sheer accepted the role, they called Nat Friedman, who had been at Microsoft after Microsoft bought GitHub. Then they called Alex Wang, co-founder of Scale AI. The board was in complete freakout mode

Starting point is 00:08:18 after they let Sam go and all this was going down. And they're calling on Thropic and they're trying to merge and they're calling these people in this. And then 700 people signed a document. Nadella says, hey, you 700 want to work for us? That's fine. I think all of this is going to get back together and we're going to, in that OpenAI,

Starting point is 00:08:36 Sam's going to be running it. So let me ask you a question. There'll be a new board and Microsoft will be on that board. So here, it's so time. OpenAI, $86 billion company. there was a time that they said they started it as a non-profit, right? Did they finally convert it as a profit? That's correct.

Starting point is 00:08:53 In 2019, they converted to a profit after starting as a non-profit with people like Peter Thiel, Elon Musk investing. So now here's a question, Sam Altman, how much equity does he have in open AI? I just googled it right now, it says zero. That's correct. How? Why? Because he was part of the, he was part, so he had more than enough to his name,

Starting point is 00:09:13 and he really wanted to lead OpenAI, so he was leading it as the non-profit. Yeah, but I mean, he doesn't have a piece of equity in OpenAI. What, why, who would have held in the right mind would think it's a good idea to have the founder and the CEO of the company not have any equity in a $86 billion company with zero incentives

Starting point is 00:09:35 that doesn't lock him into one of, who thought that was a good idea? That is a great question. And the board converted in 2019 because they were having trouble recruiting talent. So they created this organization where the board oversaw the nonprofit, which controlled and oversaw the for-profit,

Starting point is 00:09:54 and had an entity created so they could give people equity and part of the upside. And by the way, Thrive Capital wanted a bigger piece and they're a current investor and they wanted even more. They offered to buy some of the people's equities so they could have a bigger piece

Starting point is 00:10:11 at the $86 billion valuation. Yeah, I totally get all that stuff you're saying, but here's a question for the board. What makes you think it's a good move for the guy that should have more incentive than anybody else, for the CEO to own 0% equity in the company That you can't lock in the board. Are you it's not like this guy. There's not money He's got a few hundred million dollars. I think he's a half a billion out of guy 700 million out of guy

Starting point is 00:10:36 He's made some money, but you're talking about something that goes from zero to 86 billion with the money that he and Elon Musk put up Right because it was originally supposed to be a charity, a nonprofit. Yeah, they were all, there was all donations. It said, they have forms that said that the early money put in by Elon Musk was a donation to the nonprofit. Is this also way where Microsoft sister says, we don't care for we lose 18, 13 billion dollars, we're getting the guy. And now we can own a bigger percentage of the whole thing that's gonna be all Microsoft, not just an investment.

Starting point is 00:11:07 Is that kinda how they're looking at it? That's exactly how they're looking at it. And I'm gonna teach everybody a new word. In Silicon Valley, there's a word called aquahire, like a choir and hire, aquahire. So let's say you love a group of engineers, but they're working on something, and it's just not working out.

Starting point is 00:11:21 And you tell them, hey Pat, you, Tom, and these guys, tell you what, we're gonna give you five million bucks, wind down the company, pay some of your investors in law firms, but you come work for us, and we're gonna give you new equity, and we're gonna do this, you join us. That's called an aquahire,

Starting point is 00:11:37 where they basically give you enough to close one company that hasn't got transaction, traction, and come to the other side. And everybody was saying, Nadella, just by the way, Microsoft stock popped up in a close at an all time high, $2.75 trillion, when all of this was going down on Monday. And everybody, everybody in Silicon Valley is saying, you know who the biggest grill in the jungle is?

Starting point is 00:12:04 And that's Satya Nadella. He basically just pulled off an aqua hire where he gets the brain trust of open AI up to 700 people coming to work for him for the price of $13 billion. If he wanted to buy and just acquire open AI, it would have cost 86. That's a very interesting, by the way, some may say 13 billion dollars is a lot of money. It is a lot of money, but it's like having $2,750 and you're investing into something 13 bucks. That's kind of what it means.

Starting point is 00:12:33 It is money, but it's not really that much money to Microsoft, Adam, in the same way. Yeah, I think, and Tom, great break down, thank you. You know, 12 trees died for that story, so. I don't want Tom doing my opposition research, great breakdown. Thank you. You know, 12 trees died for that story. So I want Tom doing my opposition research. Going forward. You will. You do not want to get on the wrong side.

Starting point is 00:12:50 Roger, it would be a privilege to work with you. You are a legend. I think one thing that we shouldn't lose sight of amongst all this, this artificial intelligence and artificial general intelligence and basically robot learning, everything still comes down to humanity and being a human. One of the words, Tom, you said one of the words that you just learned before all this was what was it called?

Starting point is 00:13:16 Aqua, what was it called? Aqua. Aqua. I've been told about a year ago, a term that I've never heard of. I mean, I get it was the whole being a humanist. Do you remember that Elon Musk basically said, listen, when it comes to AI, you have to understand that I'm a humanist,

Starting point is 00:13:31 which that's never been a thing where you need to advocate for being a human, but that's essentially what this comes down to. In the midst of all this, of AI and artificial intelligence, especially when building a company, it still comes down to interpersonal relationships. And clearly, there were some major issues going on within the board, within SAM, within everything.

Starting point is 00:13:53 And it's good to know that humans are still running companies, despite everything that's going on here. And, in fact, that was actually the crux of the issue that was going on here. So if you look at what this guy, Ilia has said over the last year, it's all about the safety concerns of AI and how it affects humanity. He argued that basically human values and humanism needs to be at the forefront

Starting point is 00:14:18 of everything that's going on here. He basically said that the company needs to set up a super alignment team with 20% of the company's computing power to ensure the safety of humans. So it's good to know that people are looking out for humanity here. He basically said that he told employees that the biggest concern AGI will treat humans the way that humans treat animals. Basically like red alert, like humans could become second class citizens with the advent of

Starting point is 00:14:47 AGI and then just to kind of put a ribbon on this. I don't know if you saw this that Biden recently, by the way, shout out to our friend Joe Biden. It's his 81st birthday. I know that people are like, I don't think he knows what we're going on to the club tonight. I don't even think he knows it. But he signed an executive day under 90. That's true. That's true. He signed an executive order basically

Starting point is 00:15:15 with AI oversight. He invoked the Defense Protection Act, Defense Production Act, which basically highlights privacy and national security in regard to things like deep fakes and all that. So, I missed all this that's going on and Tom's amazing breakdown. It's good to know that humanity is still at the forefront

Starting point is 00:15:33 of anybody. What do you think about the story? Look, AI to me is a great piece in the Wall Street Journal about 10 days ago. I think it's extraordinarily dangerous because as the headline says, nothing will be real. So, at least within the world of politics, you can produce a video now seamlessly that makes it appear that your opponent or those you oppose say and do things that they never

Starting point is 00:15:54 said and done. I've been victim of this. That's so therefore I think it's extraordinarily dangerous. And voters don't necessarily have discernment. So, oh, I know Biden said that because I saw a video of him saying, except for he never said it, or Barack Obama. You said you were a victim of this?

Starting point is 00:16:11 I was told there's a ton of deep fakes online. They're not very well done by the way, but a lot of stuff out there, sure. Well, I have a few enemies, you know, so it is. So, you choose your enemies wisely. So, you know, going back to this, I think every time there is an era of like an Oklahoma land rush, people lose their minds. Right now, this is not a trillion dollar idea.

Starting point is 00:16:38 This is probably a $10 trillion idea. What open AI is. So you know how $86 billion is what it's worth today? Okay, if this is a $10 trillion idea over the next 10 years, what is $86 billion? What is $10 trillion divided by $86 billion? You know what it is? It's roughly 110X, what it is today.

Starting point is 00:17:05 Maybe even 120X, 115X, what it is today. Maybe even 120X, 115X, what it is today. That means you invest a billion dollars over the next 10 years that billion could be what? A hundred and 15 billion dollars, okay? That is the power of what this company is capable of doing. These board members, you know, these 770 employees have said

Starting point is 00:17:23 we are not coming back unless if the board resides. Correct. Oh, wow. There's only 770 employees. 700 employees have said we are leaving if Sam Vaultman was fired and the board has, so imagine how company works. You're sitting in the board like who do you think you are?

Starting point is 00:17:41 We on the board and we on the shares and we on this. And you're fired, Sam. Sam, you own nothing. You get an email from 700 employees saying, hey, board, I know you got all this power. Guess what? You want a fire, Sam? If you don't fire yourself, you may as well fire us because we're out.

Starting point is 00:17:58 We're going to go elsewhere. Guess where that 700 is going to go to? Straight to one company. Guess what that company's called? It's called Microsoft. You know what happens to Microsoft? All of a sudden, Microsoft becomes the first 10 trillion out of company in America in the world.

Starting point is 00:18:11 Tom, there's something else here. We're talking about the board, the board, the board. For those of you that have a business or those of you that may be serving on a nonprofit, board is everything. There were nine seats on this board that were occupied at the beginning of the year. Nine. One of them by Reed Hoffman, who is a founder of LinkedIn, who ended up sort of at Microsoft because Microsoft owns LinkedIn now.

Starting point is 00:18:32 So, what's really interesting about is Reed Hoffman said, hey, I may have a conflict and need to step off the board. Two other people this year stepped off the board. This is a normal thing. Most people sit on boards either forever or less than three years. It's usually just a time period. So guess what? That took the board down from nine to what?

Starting point is 00:18:50 Six. Sam Altman said he was kicking himself and he was quoted on this yesterday. I was kicking myself because I didn't replace those board members. So it went from nine to six. Wow. So when they walked in there to do it,

Starting point is 00:19:03 Ilya got one board member, Helen, who is a Georgetown fellow or panelist or something like that. And he gets her to go along and says, the first thing we need to do, so let's do the count. There's six people on the board, Ilya walks in. First thing we need to do is let's vote to remove Greg Brockman from the board

Starting point is 00:19:20 because he'll probably vote with Sam. Yep. All those in favor? Yes. Four. So, okay, we have four votes. That would be four to two if they were here to vote. Boom. They move them.

Starting point is 00:19:31 Now there's five people on the board. Do you see where this is going? And now let's vote to remove Sam. Well, Sam can't vote. And he doesn't need to vote. He doesn't even have to be present because they have quorum present. So then these four people did it.

Starting point is 00:19:42 So you see what happened? Boards are supposed to be large and diverse to have opinions, to have diversity of thought, and to debate and process things and have sensible people coming from different angles. The smaller the board gets, the dumber the board gets. Or shall we say the more, not dumber, but maybe the more blind spots.

Starting point is 00:20:04 Blind spots, spontaneous. And so, you also don't want it to be too big. You don't want it to be 15, 17, 9, 11. 9 and 7 are the most popular numbers because they're odd numbers, as you might imagine. But take a look at that, Pat, you've had companies where you've had boards, and there's part of what happened is they boiled it down to four people

Starting point is 00:20:23 made the decision on this. And that's what, look what Mark Vanhau just said right here. It's my just send this to Rob. Mark Vanhau, Salesforce will match any open AI researcher who has tendered their resignation, will full cash and equity OT to immediately join our Salesforce, Einstein trusted AI research team under Silvio, Savories, semi or CV directly to CEOatSalesforce.com.

Starting point is 00:20:47 Einstein is the most successful enterprise AI platform completing one trillion predictive and generative transactions. This week join our trusted AI enterprise revolution. It is a dog, dog, dog, dog, dog, dog, top of an environment right now. Everybody wants to recruit the talent leaving open AI. Everybody.

Starting point is 00:21:09 And Microsoft now either controls it and they're going to have a board seat in the restructure you better believe that or they own it. They either absorb it or they own it. But I don't think the other these are big other investors that I think are going to want to see open AI like put back together with a strong board, but it's basically gonna be Microsoft's toy. Dude, Elon just we retweeted. He says, drop the open AI, just Microsoft.

Starting point is 00:21:36 It's cleaner. Like the one in the lock's up your burger. What did I just say? It's Microsoft's toys. He'd be like, yeah. The bizzah kind of touched on it, but I just wanna get your opinion on this like for when a board fires the CEO and founder.

Starting point is 00:21:49 Yeah. Right. I want to know what that looks like internally and then externally how that affects the company. So like we all saw that happen with Steve Jobs and in what like the late 80s. We saw it recently with our buddy James O'Keefe. Now the latest with Sam Altman. What does that look like when this happens, when the board fires the seatbelt?

Starting point is 00:22:06 Well, let me, okay, you bring up James O'Keefe. When's the last time he followed Project Veritas? When James was there, that's what brought attention. I think it went belly up actually. I know, but we're tied to a personality, right? So until the brand becomes bigger, then that person goes away. It's timing.

Starting point is 00:22:24 For example, Steve Jobs passed away at 56 years old. Everybody thought, what do you call it? Apple has done it. It wasn't. Apple ended up going from a hundred billion dollar company to a three trillion dollar company, because at that point, Apple was big at then. Jobs, a hundred billion today's not a lot,

Starting point is 00:22:41 but a hundred billion with Steve Jobs died. What year did Jobs die, Rob? Is it 2006 or 2008? What hundred billion with Steve Jobs died. What year did Jobs die, Rob? Is it 2006 or 2008? What is the year Steve Jobs died? Could have been 11, 2011. Okay. So he dies in 2011. Everybody's like it's over with.

Starting point is 00:22:55 12 years later, it's a $3 trillion company. But by that time Apple was already established, you cannot do it with early stage founders. And when you fired the CEO, in many cases, it's valid. Like this guy did something. Well, like when Uber fired Travis County, yeah, Jason with Dana. Yeah, in many cases, it's, like for example,

Starting point is 00:23:19 like even remember when New Year's Eve, Dana White, his wife and everybody's like, oh, you should get fired, you should get this, you should take time away, you say, screw you. No, I'm not taking time away, I screwed up. I have to deal with this with my family. Do you think I'm embarrassed about what you think?

Starting point is 00:23:36 No, I'm embarrassed with my own family. Let me deal there. So, board got pressure from media, board got pressure from left media, board got pressure from a, board got pressure from left media, board got pressure from a couple of investors, and board pitched to Dana, maybe wanna take a month or two months off, this is speculation.

Starting point is 00:23:53 And then Dana came back and said, you were talking about, I'm not doing this, I'm here. If they would have fired Dana, I mean, it's the ultimate black guy for the brand of UFC. Good word. It's by the way, black guy UFC. You're the nail nut, huh? Basically, so the whole thing becomes like,

Starting point is 00:24:13 you can't get rid of a guy that's got that kind of royalty from the audience. And obviously, guess what Sam Altman just proved? He's got it. And Sam Altman has been arguably the face of AI, like name anyone else when you associate with AI But you said a lot of times of the board fires the CEO it is valid Yeah, many times you why is that?

Starting point is 00:24:32 Listen if you're you know how many times they give the money and CEO gets a couple dollars and then he goes cruising a little bit and Couple dollars off the table and you know stops being accountable, gets to his head, arrogant, doesn't come to work, becomes casual, because that happens a lot. What's the workspace thing that everyone used to... We work, exactly. We work in that guy out. He's still a billionaire and he's still gonna get money

Starting point is 00:25:01 and he's still gonna raise money because it's crazy enough to get money. But many times it does make sense. You know, the last shot I'm here is Sim Altman. He's also known as Y Combinator. He led Y Combinator, which is like the single most successful and fruitful, small business accelerator that's ever been known to mankind.

Starting point is 00:25:19 And at the end of the chapter there, they were saying, Sam, you're working on OpenAI, you're working on all these projects you're working all these projects. Can you really give the time to why Combinator shouldn't you step away from this because you're doing actually too many things? So Sam did. He stepped away from why Combinator as the leader.

Starting point is 00:25:37 And one of the things that happened recently is he was over with the Saudis, talking to PIF, which is the Saudi fund, and he was asking them about investing in a company that would design and make AI chips to compete with Nvidia because he thought that Nvidia having too much market share was like monopolistic and that wouldn't be good and he didn't want to have AI's reliance on one company.

Starting point is 00:26:03 So he was out doing that, actively trying to raise money for that as well, as in the billions of dollars. So they said the board was also concerned about him at maybe doing too many things, and they said it was a breakdown in communication. I think we'll know, I think more will come out, there'll be things that come out. I don't want to be like living alone.

Starting point is 00:26:22 Here's all you need to know. If 700 out of 770 are saying they're going to leave, he was doing more than enough to have the loyalty of 700. Exactly. Exactly. I'll wrap it up with this and we'll go to the Argentina story. When you find a relentless founder who's driven, bought into vision, worker has technical skills, it is very, very hard to find people like that, very hard to find people like that, very hard to

Starting point is 00:26:48 find people like that because they increase valuation and that's exactly what he was doing. Rob, let's go to the next story. So wild story out of nowhere, you hear Argentina likes shock therapy, libertarian haveier, Millie as the president, Reuters story. So Argentina likes libertarian outside of Javier Millie as his new president with nearly 56% of all. He pledged economic shock therapy and stated Argentina situation is critical.

Starting point is 00:27:19 The changes our country needs are drastic. Millie radical plans includes shutting down to central bank, ditching the peso, and implementing spending cuts. He resonated with voters frustrated by the economic crisis and one support, particularly among the young. Mealy, victory disrupts Argentina's political landscape. And economic direction, he has criticized China and Brazil, emphasizing stronger U.S. ties. However, he faces the challenge of a fragmented Congress and addressing the country's economic woes. Rob, can you play one of the clips? Let's go to the clip of him giving the message with

Starting point is 00:27:56 the lady he's doing an interview with. Yeah, right there. If he can make this one. Great hair, guys. Just read the caption. First of all, he looks like an Argentinian Elvis Presley. But watch what he's saying. Read the captions. Go for it. Bueno, pues, por favor, se ve como en Argentina, Elvis Presley, pero ¿qué se ve como se ve como en la gente? ¡Voy a ver, por favor! Es un hombre. El surdo de mierda no le puede dar ni un milímetro. Me puede definir el surdo de mierda, que no es de mierda. Todos los que digamos, los collectivistas,

Starting point is 00:28:16 los que ponen diamos, o sea, esa idea... ¿Qué le pone de mierda, digamos? Porque son una mierda. O sea, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no o sea, no, pero es que se den a ver, pero no, pero si pensad, el linto te va a te van a niquilar, ese es el punto, es irbosa el surdo, no le puede dar un milímetro, porque le da su milímetro y lo toma para destrozarte, es irbosa, dios, o sea, bueno, podéis negociar con el surdo, no se negocia, no se negocia, con esa mierda, no se negocia, porque te van a llevar, puesto,

Starting point is 00:28:43 si tienen un golpeador que caga trompadas a la mujer, y a vos y es de ellos, me déjese poner el pañolito verde y grita todo el tiempo contra el neoliberalismo. Lo ocultan. Me dé eso, así de repente, hay alguien que acosó a una periodista, ¿qué o cosa? ¿Qué o cosa? ¿Qué o cosa? ¿Qué o cosa? Lo ocultan. Es decir, a todos los de eso, lo ocultan esas aberraciones, la ocultan. Ahora, si vos estás del otro lado, a vos te van a estropiar,

Starting point is 00:29:08 te van a matar, te van a dar con lo que sea, no les importa ruinarte la vida, porque no pensás como eso. Y sabes que es lo bueno de todo esto, hay algo bueno de todo esto, porque como le rores humano, como todos nos podemos equivocar, sabes que nos olían, nos obligan a ser mejores.

Starting point is 00:29:25 Y como estamos siendo tan mejores con ellos, como los estamos aplastando la batalla cultural, los estamos pasando de arriba, porque no sólo le ganamos en lo productivo, somos superiores moralmente, somos superiores estéticamente, somos mejores en todo, y les dueles, les dueles, entonces como no pueden peguiar con las herramientas de víctima, las zapaláncren gente, de la gente, de la gente, de la gente, de la gente, de la gente,

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Starting point is 00:30:17 mundo no es buro. Así que lo que se le da es que el politics es el intertema. Si no no se le da a la gente, si no se le da a la atención, that politics is entertainment. If you can't entertain the people, if you can't get their attention, then you can't educate them and you can't persuade them. At the same time, he's genuine. I mean, that's really him. This guy, he's a true believer. He fronted Rolling Stones rock band for years.

Starting point is 00:30:39 His dog is named Milton Friedman. He is a radical libertarian. He is well versed in Vimesis and Hayek. He's put for an extraordinarily radical agenda. He understands symbolism. He shows up with a chainsaw at one of his press conferences. He dresses in superhero costumes. And he's right. Socialism has brought their country, triple digit inflation, alluming recession, and new levels of poverty. So, I mean, the guy is he's on fire, and people don't recognize two important things. One, he's not from either one of the two major dominant parties who've dominated Argentine politics for the last 40 years. He's actually a third party won this election, which has never happened before there or here. And secondarily, Argentine has 100% paper ballots. There are no voting

Starting point is 00:31:37 machines. And they tabulate all their ballots on election day that night. Now, that is not to say that vote stealing is unknown, which it just simply means that you have to have a very aggressive poll-watching operation to make sure that no paper ballots are stolen. So I thought he might win. The polling was much closer, but he's really on fire. And he totally understands the dynamics of the y todo lo que se trata es la dinámica de la situación de la dirección y la que la therapy de la gente es necesaria. Rob, ¿y tienes la clima de la

Starting point is 00:32:10 clima de todo el pecho y después de la gente? Esto es fantástico, ve este este este. Bueno, lo primero que tenemos que entender es que el estado no es la solución, el estado es el problema. Usted ustedes, si se

Starting point is 00:32:26 fican acá, tienen la gran rabiolada que es el estado, el gran curro y la fuente de la de cadencia argentina que es el estado, esto es la foto del estado que tenemos hoy, si nos vemos hacia que ya Estas como el Lerberrand de la Fuerza. Ministerio de Turismo y Deporte, afuera. Ministerio de Puchura, afuera. Ministerio de Ambiente y Desarrollo Soterible, afuera. Ministerio de las Puchures, que no es gracias. Ministerio de las Públicas, afuera.

Starting point is 00:33:02 Atenezistas. Vamos a seguir por acá. Ministerio de Ciencia y Tecnología de Innovación. Nada, bueno, salió el sector público. Afuera. Ministerio de Trabajo en Plensa Comunidad Social. Afuera. Ministerio de Educación.

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Starting point is 00:35:14 You look at the, and that, that angst is living under there. Is Argentina where are we going? Are we going to be this economic light for Latin America? There's no vision. There's no vision coming from the leadership. And there's inflation and unemployment, so the people are desperate. And all of a sudden, this guy talks about turning it down and giving him a place to go and being the one guy that's got the balls to walk in and do it.

Starting point is 00:35:36 And 55.7% say that's my guy. Once the, one of the 10 wealthiest countries in the world, Buenos Aires was considered the Paris of South America. So the country's known prosperity, but they're in dire straits. And the socialist Iran against was the guy in charge of the economy. Talk about a bad hand. So he's a friend of mine. He's read my book, Stone's Rules, he took it to heart, obviously. I think I'm going to go down for the inauguration very excited about it the people who ran this campaign are very they're very young I mean they're very digital savvy he ran a very modern effective campaign but it's really

Starting point is 00:36:15 built around him and his personality well by the way go back to what you just showed and then Vinnie I'll come to you go back to what you just showed the data Rob 50 so check this out 99.4% of voters tallyed in presidential runoff merely had 55.7% an economy minister Sergio Massa 44% according to Argentinus electoral authority It is the highest percentage That a presidential candidate has received since the South American countries returned to democracy in 1983 Well, and and Raj is going off what you said about them, and I think you gotta give a little credit

Starting point is 00:36:49 where credit do Roger, because this type of political attitude, you're technically the architect, is with Trump was running, or actually in the 80s, when you recommended that Trump should run, you saw the value of the outsider image. He's the outsider, also someone who brings business experience

Starting point is 00:37:05 to the political process. And because your philosophy when it came to politics was anti-Ledism, not big government. So in essence, you, this is the direct result. This guy's attitude, this guy's vision, this guy's like movement in the political party rogues because of how you treated them in the 80s, right? I think his appeal, I think his whole thing

Starting point is 00:37:24 is very similar to Trump in 2016. I mean, he's not coached, I'll say that. He's not handled, he's not managed, he's not scripted. What you see is what you get and people respond to authenticity, particularly in dire times, where this guy has a very radical prescription. He's got a lot of obstacles.

Starting point is 00:37:46 There's no question, but in a larger context, I see this as a precursor for the United States in the sense that Brexit was a precursor for Trump's election in 2016. This I think is an important victory for the forces of freedom and anti-big governmentism. I love the use of the word precursor because one of the things that was going on here, I was seeing flags that are, Rajram sir, you picked up on this, that said don't tread on me.

Starting point is 00:38:14 That comes from the dawn of American independence and that was a message from the from us, remember that we have to, was it Thomas Payne said, if we don't hang together, we would certainly all hang separately, and don't tread on me. Those symbolism showing up in flags that they're waving

Starting point is 00:38:31 says that these Argentine people who may be young and the people are voting understand the importance of what we call the American experiment. Yeah, I know that the young people love America, they love everything about America. So it is, and they're very very very attuned to our pop culture It's interesting almost everybody said good things about him getting a like here's what Trump said about it By the way, Trump said

Starting point is 00:38:55 Congratulations to have your million great race for President of Argentina the whole world was watching I'm proud of you You will turn your country around and truly make America great again, truly make Argentina great again. But here's what even Lula said good things. But here is what Colombia's president said. The extreme right has one in Argentina. It's the decision of its society, sat for Latin America and we'll see, da, da, da, the relationship between Colombia and Argentina, the bonds between their communities are maintained in mutual respect however i congratulate milly how's columbia doing by the way how they doing not too good not exactly well that's right i was going

Starting point is 00:39:36 this because i was in columbia about a year ago and i saw what was going on there if i'm from borden raised in my amian i've seen basically half of latin america moved to my amian the last decade or so. We all saw basically what happened when Cubans all came here in the 80s, everything that happened with Fidel Castro and a multitude of that. But if you look at what's going on in South America, obviously Cuba and Venezuela are as socialist,

Starting point is 00:39:58 communist, Marxist, as it gets. But it doesn't end there. If you look at what's going on in Peru, Bolivia, Argentina, Chile, certainly in Mexico, Nicaragua. But then you have certain outliers like what at Naibu Kelly is doing in El Salvador, credit to him is a libertarian, crypto advocate. This guy right here, Javier Mili is the first libertarian candidate ever elected, ever, period in any country. I don't know if you know that. But you mentioned that you need personality and you need policy, right?

Starting point is 00:40:34 This guy has a combination of both. We have arguments and debates here all the time about, well, certain people have this and certain people have this strength. I can think of a certain candidate running for governor right now, sorry, running for president right now, that is great on policy, just personality. He doesn't have that FWAN thing going on, my friend. But if you recall, and this guy is a, what they call an anarcho capitalist. So just deep libertarian ties, and if you look at it from an economics standpoint, what did your friend, Ron Reagan say, the most terrifying words that you'll ever hear is, I'm from the government

Starting point is 00:41:08 and I'm here to help. And that's essentially what this guy's basically saying is like, the government overspending and the printing of money and the inflation and the economy that's going on in Argentina has led to this. And this outsider has just showed up with this chainsaw and basically said, we're gonna end this thing off wea. Well, bouquets, he's proved that change is possible. Yeah. That you can take a country in deep trouble and you can reverse that trend.

Starting point is 00:41:33 And this is gonna be, this is gonna be an important experiment in the same thing. I agree. And by the way, I'm looking at this, the economy in Argentina, 140% inflation, 40% living below the poverty line is what led to him winning. So here's a question for a lot of Americans. Does it need to go there for you to realize what works and doesn't work?

Starting point is 00:41:56 Does California need to go there before you realize what works and what doesn't work? Maybe. Does New York need to go there before you realize what works and doesn't work? You know, it's repetitive when this takes place, a person like him comes in, you know, finds out the frustration, all the people, they vote for him. Argentina gets better if this guy is able to even live and survive. I was just going to say. Argentina gets better. And he does what he does. And then all this this works and then all of a sudden they Bash the rich people and they bash the wealth that's been been made by people that once were poor and Then it goes back to now we're rich. How come we're not taking care of our poor? Then you spend the money cyclical cycles

Starting point is 00:42:35 The same way a generational wealth stays with certain families for Few years Most families generational wealth only stays for one or two generations before kids or grandkids spend the hell out of the money. Generational wealth also goes with countries. Most countries who become very wealthy, it only stays for one generation or two before a socialist shows up and wants to find a way to spend that money to give it to the poor to get elected.

Starting point is 00:43:03 And then they realize that was not the right format, and another person comes in. While we're looking at this, here's what happens the other day. Numbers come out, okay. Numbers come out that Biden's presidency, poll, NBC, standing hits new lows amid Israel, Hamas, war, and this isn't a Fox news story. This isn't a pry bar story. This is an NBC story. President Biden's approval rating has hit a new law 40% with strong disapproval of his foreign policy and handling of the Israel Hamas according to NBC polls. A significant drop which, Rob, if you don't mind just playing the clip.

Starting point is 00:43:43 Play the clip of what they were saying, the one, yeah one yeah right there the one you just showed in a picture right there is this the Steve just watch this one here just watch the reaction to it this is meet the press go for it here it is Donald Trump we have it 46% Biden 44 and this is significant because this is the first time in the history of our poll that former President Trump beats President Biden still within the margin of error, but still significant. Yeah, it's 2019, 2020, when Trump was president, he trailed all of them. This year, he's trailed all of them in our poll.

Starting point is 00:44:17 First time in more than a dozen polls, we've seen a result like this. Some of the other ingredients that go into that Biden has long had an advantage over Trump unlike ability. Look at the start of this year. 39% that they have positive view of Biden barely 30 of Trump. We've seen consistently a gap like this. Now the gap is going 36 positive on both and actually Biden. One point more negative than Trump. That's been a significant advantage for Biden. Our polls that have been advantage at least for Biden. Our polls that's higher back advantage. At least for now, may be going on.

Starting point is 00:44:46 We talked about younger voters on foreign policy, and it's true on a host of other topics. Disaffected with Joe Biden, we have 46% for Trump, 42% for Biden among the youngest voters, the youngest voters in the 2020 election, where Biden plus 26, this could be a massive situation. Did you hear what he just said? And if you take a look here,

Starting point is 00:45:05 two, I'll be sure to say, go back to what he said right there. Go back 10 seconds, Rob, if you can, right there. Okay, go a little bit back three more seconds. Right, yeah, go for it. Plus, play this, listen to this one. The youngest voters, the youngest voters

Starting point is 00:45:18 in the 2020 election were Biden plus 26. This could be a massive situation. That's a positive right there. And if so plus 26, this could be a massive sea change. That's positive right there. And so plus 26 during the election with younger voters, it's flipped 28, it's flipped 30 percent because now Trump is plus four on young voters and it used to be Biden plus 26. Keep playing it. If you take a look here too, everybody sort of says, hey, I'm not too nuts about the possibility of this match up. So we said, let's measure this one way. This is one way. And here's how we did it. take a look here too, everybody sort of says, hey, I'm not too nuts about the possibility

Starting point is 00:45:45 of this match up. So we said, let's measure this one way. And here's how we did it. Biden against an unnamed Republican. This is just a referendum on Biden, basically. And look at this. We go from being a dog fight with Trump to be a double digits by, but that's flipping around. Trump against an unnamed Democrat.

Starting point is 00:46:02 Trump goes from leading against Biden to be a damn like sliding. Just a fascinating look at the stage of the race with Michelle Obama. More like that. Steve Kronacki, great stuff. Thank you, sir. Great stuff. You know what? First of all, they pretend that the New York Times, she and a college poll 10 days ago didn't

Starting point is 00:46:20 show the exact same thing. They pretend that the Bloomberg Morning Consult poll in the swing states didn't show the same thing. Oh They pretend that the Bloomberg morning consult poll in the swing states didn't show the same thing. Oh, this is shocking news. This is not shocking news. This is the trend. What's significant is that NBC is now saying it because that means Barack Obama has decided that Joe must go. Professional Democrats realize that Joe is not up to another campaign. They cringe at the idea of an Obama Trump debate that blows their mind. Joe Obama Trump, pardon me, I'm spoke,

Starting point is 00:46:51 a Biden debate pardon me, thank you. And they, and they, Joe doesn't wanna go. First of all, Joe doesn't wanna lose the legal authority to pardon himself and his brother and his son and other members of his family. And, Jill certainly doesn't want to go. It's not coincidental to me that on the day Barack Obama props Biden

Starting point is 00:47:13 up on X, David Axelrod is right hand man, is out saying if we nominate Biden we're going to lose. So I think there's an internecine push going on in the Democratic Party, as there's a growing realization that between the impact of his domestic policies, his inability to perform as a candidate, the mixed messaging on the Middle East, where they're trying to please everybody and therefore they please nobody. And the growing scandals surrounding corruption

Starting point is 00:47:46 and the Biden family adds up to Joe not being able to make it again. And therefore, I think they're gonna try to push it. Roger, who's gonna make that decision to say President Biden, thank you for your service, please step aside. How does the inter-working, the inter-plumbing of the DNC actually work?

Starting point is 00:48:04 Who's making that decision? The most influential Democrat in the country today is Barack Obama. There is no question about that. And these affiliated news outlets respond very much to him. He can, and the way their convention is set up is very different than the Republican convention. So you can dump a nominee because of the super delegates far more easily. So the fact that the filing deadlines have already passed in the Democratic primary and caucus schedule for New Hampshire. New Hampshire and Iowa have been neutered. They've taken away their delegates to make South Carolina the first contest,

Starting point is 00:48:45 a state with an absolute majority of African American voters in their primary. The Chicago, the convention is where? Chicago, the Obama's hometown. I have predicted for some time that Michelle Obama is the most likely Democratic nominee for the Simplen. More than Newsom? Here's why, quite simply. You have a woman of color who's the vice president. She's next in line. How do you rationalize passing her by?

Starting point is 00:49:14 If Joe doesn't run, how can you get away with passing her by? She's got to pull the race card. You have to do it. So, a deadly politician. So you replace a woman of color with a far more popular. So you're going to have two women running the country No, no, no, not necessarily

Starting point is 00:49:28 But I don't think that they can I mean you can't just bypass Kamala Harris Despite the fact that she doesn't have dementia, but she makes less sense So but how do they convince like what does he say after much consideration with my family? I've realized that yeah during these difficult times, I'm just looking, certainly, demented, like how does it work? He's healthful, not just won't allow it. He's health won't allow it.

Starting point is 00:49:52 I mean, he doesn't look well. Or, yeah, whatever one's been saying is basically the right answer. And the doctor, I mean, and you said this project on the unusual suspects that the document thing is still kind of lingering. They can always go to that. I, here's a telltale sign that they're in trouble. When you have people with Trump, the rangeman syndrome, like Michael

Starting point is 00:50:07 Rappaport losing his mind. Yeah. And Cardi B, can you understand? Cardi B can't even speak English. She's going live with all her fans. Remember, she was interviewing Trump. And she's like, I like you like politics. No, interviewing Biden. But interviewing Biden back the day, they interviewed her twice. And now she, for, you know, it's bad, Pat, when people like her are starting to turn, you know him back a day, they interview her twice. And now she for you know, it's bad Pat when people like her are starting to turn. You know 100% Joe Biden. You already nailed it. There's no way he's running.

Starting point is 00:50:32 It's no. Yeah, this is a card. This is party. I'm a political punty. This is a party. She knows what she's talking about. The context for this clip is that there's a hundred million dollars in cuts to social services and other programs in New York.

Starting point is 00:50:43 And that's why she is against. She's getting involved. Yeah. Before we play this, the context was Eric Adams other programs in New York, and that's why she is against money. She's getting involved. Yeah, before we play this, the context was Eric Adams, Mayor of New York said, I'm having so much trouble and so much cost with all this immigration that's landing on here, I need the federal government to help,

Starting point is 00:50:55 and if I don't get the federal government to help, I am gonna lay off these people, cut this, cut this, cut this. So Eric Adams was trying to blackmail the federal government in descending taxpayer money to help him, And this is the response from a citizen. And before he played and it was time he was going to let's get rid of cops and get rid of one billion dollars for education. That was that whole basket of crap. Yep. Before. Now this one, Celia, I'm not this year. Don't fucking ask me. I don't give a fuck the resume day They sent I don't give a fuck I'm not indoors

Starting point is 00:51:28 No more cuz how is that a hundred hundred million dollar budget cut in New York City for for um She's trying to read fucking schools library Police safety and sanitation. Yeah, Joe Biden talking about like yeah, we could fund two wars We could fund two wars my fuck is talking about like, yeah, we could fund two wars, we could fund two wars. My fucka's talking about we don't got it, but we got it. We're the greatest nation. No, the fuck we're not.

Starting point is 00:51:51 We're going through some shit right now. Oh, so really fun. You won't go. She's not into the internet. No, she's the singer that sang WAP, right? Yeah, WAP is about to get dried up right now, because guess what? There goes the culture that you were. That's I got that way. Let's see what let's see what

Starting point is 00:52:10 rap reports that go go ahead. I'm gonna forget cycle. It's down the pig dick down Trump. It's smoking Joe Biden. I'm sorry. I am sorry. Voting for pig dick down Trump. Pink is on the table. I'm sorry. Uh-oh. I'm fucking, I still call him a slob dick down Trump. What a loser. Pig dick down Trump and all that.

Starting point is 00:52:36 Trump the range of syndrome. Big time. But we need to get this whole fucking situation under control. Oh, but guess what? Too late. And this is Pat. And this is what drives me crazy. We told you, like, this is, this is what Trump, the range of his syndrome deals were,

Starting point is 00:52:50 the personnel, you didn't like the coddling and the rubbing of your head while you were getting screwed over it. Now, I'm happy to see this. Right. Listen to what he says there. At the very end, what does he say? We have to get control. Listen to what Roger was just saying, and you can see the plan inside. The conventions are very different. Hillary tried to gain game, the super delegates as part of her strategy. It wasn't a natural primary. Remember how she looked so calm, cool, and collected,

Starting point is 00:53:19 not worried about polling and things they were doing as candidate, junior senator from Illinois, Barack Obama, who had done a great speech at the previous DNC suddenly is gaining momentum. You saw that's how it works. That's where it's coming from. Roger, I'm with you. I think what's going to happen, we're going to get to the convention, somebody's going to say, Joe, the superdelegants are moving the other way. You're going to get the pardon. You got to pardon your son. You got to get the stuff out of the way. This is going to be messy for us. And we're done.

Starting point is 00:53:46 I believe it happens with the super delegate manipulation at the convention. Bingo. But Gavin Newsom, who's very, I think, effectively advertising his availability, you cannot replace the woman vice president of color with a white male. You just can't do that. So he gets to be vice president. I'm a white male. You just can't do that. So he gets to be vice president on Michelle Pantico.

Starting point is 00:54:07 Why not? Why not? Because the dynamics of their party will not allow it. Who gives a shit? What you're going to lose? The most woke, you think that this woke-ass left is going to let, because you know what they're going to say? You let a white man take over?

Starting point is 00:54:19 Yeah, you crazy. Because he's more capable. Let me go on that. Donna Brazil goes, I'm a throger. Donna Brazil and others go nuclear if you try to do that. Yeah. Well, she's the one. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:54:30 Here's what's gonna happen. Here's what's gonna happen. I mean, the guy, Milly, if you read what he said, he said, if you're on the left and you molest another journalist, as long as you support pro-borsion, del-hided. If you're this and you do that, as long as you support their green deal, del-hided. But God forbid if you're on the opposite side, they wanna kill you, they will destroy you, right?

Starting point is 00:54:55 Okay. Andrew Cuomo is by far one of the best case studies. COVID starts, first six months. This guy would have been a better president than Donald Trump. He's this, he's that, he's this. Flag can. And then you look at Andrew and you see somebody

Starting point is 00:55:12 that's probably not gonna be a yes man to Schumer, to Nancy, to Obama, 20 of these guys. And in all of a sudden, wait a minute, I'm convinced he wasn't listening to what he was doing and what they were asking him to do. They said, okay, you want to do this? Do you forget what we have on you? We will destroy your life and guess what they did. They did. Not the right. The left did it to themselves. They eat their own. So guess what's going to happen? They have a book. The size of a Bible, with enough ways to destroy Biden, that one's gonna be an easy phone call to make,

Starting point is 00:55:48 but they don't wanna get to that point. They want it to be a nice friendly one to get to Biden. And they have one as well with Kamala that they can destroy her as well. And that one's gonna be a little bit complicated because I think she'll fight it. I think she'll fight it a little bit like Andrew Koma would. When they try to do that with her, eventually she's going to have to come out.

Starting point is 00:56:08 Then at that point, they'll pick whoever it's going to be. But by the way, it's, the DNC is when, it's August of next year in Chicago. The RNC is July of next year. I want to say Milwaukee, from number staking. Yeah. So I know the next debate coming up December 6th is in PAMA, but they're gonna do Milwaukee as the RNC. They don't wanna have a lot of time left, okay? They don't have a lot of time left.

Starting point is 00:56:31 If they're gonna make their moves, they gotta make their moves fairly quickly to get that guy out. And when I say guy, I mean, Biden, I think the hard one's gonna be Kamala. Well, first of all, they'll be looking at the polling between the two conventions. Trump will get a bounce out of his convention.

Starting point is 00:56:45 That'll scare the crap out of them even more. Secondarily, Kamala is not that difficult to solve. You want to be on the U.S. Supreme Court? Good. All you got to do is step aside. We win the election. We win the Senate. You are the attorney general of California.

Starting point is 00:56:58 You can be on the Supreme Court. They buy her out. And she goes quietly. That's my guess. Wow. I don't know if she's going to be the easiest campaign for the right to run with. Oh, easiest campaign. They say they for women, they tell her to sit in the back of the box. They say they're for blacks. They told her to do this. All talk, no action. Don't trust the Democrats. They only want to

Starting point is 00:57:21 your vote. But once you vote for them, they won't do what they say. And those faces are Joe keeps making. Joe keeps making this easy for them by being Joe. I mean, running from the turkey pardon, like because I think he crapped his pants as if he was doing it. Yeah, look like. Yeah, look like crap. Not knowing where to put the re-thought

Starting point is 00:57:39 at the time. But the other two not. Oh, Joe, I mean, the more this guy is in public, the more dysfunctional he appears. That just fuels this move. What's this Rob? He's at the White House, on the White House long, and I guess the turgidist came out.

Starting point is 00:57:53 This is 100- 100-year tradition, the president, part of this one. And he has to take a poop. This is, I gotta go take a poop. Go ahead. Watch this. Hey, look at that. You guys, I gotta just, no, no like how embarrassing is this guy look? They're not even done coming out yet. Look at this. He's gone

Starting point is 00:58:12 This happened yesterday. He just is like I gotta go take a crap. He left everybody in the lawn I don't know about all that what do you mean? He did There's a million other clips we can play that are way worse than that. No, he I'll tell you when he's worn every day That's the yeah, no doubt But if we can go to that general worse than that. No, he, I'll tell you what, he's won every day. That's the, yeah, no doubt. But if we can go to that general election stat that Pat kicked us off with, that's scary. I agree. But that's not the scariest stat that we've seen

Starting point is 00:58:33 in the last week or so. So what was that 46, 44? No, no, not that one. The initial one, the scariest thing with Roger alluded to initially is the battleground states and the swing states. There's five states that dictate basically what's going to happen in this election. Roger knows this better than anybody. We know that California, New York is voting blue.

Starting point is 00:58:50 We know that Alabama and Tennessee are voting red. That's not even a question. 4644. We know that the election is going to come down to the, you know, it's too close to call. We already seen this a million times. Comes down to five states. And these are the polls. This is New York Times and Sienna College, not exactly right-quitting, exactly.

Starting point is 00:59:08 Incredible methodology. Trump, verse, Biden, Nevada, swing state, Trump's up 10, 10, Georgia, up six, Arizona, up five, Michigan, up five, Pennsylvania, up four. Those states are gonna pay attention to, and if Trump's an alt-bigotin in those five states, this thing's down. But Raj, what do you, Raj, what do you think? Okay, do you think what's happening in New York is enough to stay because the left is

Starting point is 00:59:32 always up to something, Raj, like we're not stupid. I know, I know you, you get it. We spoke about this the other day. What is what they have on Trump enough to make him not run? There's no circumstance whatsoever under which he does not run. None. And if he said this, if he has to run from a prison cell, he will. As long as he's not convicted of a crime that makes him in eligible to be on the ballot,

Starting point is 00:59:55 or in eligible to be president, if they murder him, they might even make him stronger. That has certainly been his counterintuitive, but that's what's happened so far. These prosecutions of him have turbocharged his campaign. And I think that trend will continue. Roger, what's your relationship with Trump at this point? I know you've been a surrogate, you've been an advocate. He's a very good, I saw him two Fridays ago, talked to him night before last.

Starting point is 01:00:20 You guys didn't know each other how long? 45 years. Wow. And what's his just overall, you know, and you're how's he doing? What's his? He's surprisingly confident. I mean, this guy has got ice water in his veins.

Starting point is 01:00:34 I mean, look, I work for Nixon, I work for Dole. They're very, very tough guys. Trump is the toughest guy I've ever met. I mean, he really just lets it roll down his back. I mean, under the kind of pressure that he's in, he's resolute, he's determined, he is a little angry, but Maggie Habermann's right about that, but I think he has every right to be angry,

Starting point is 01:00:53 but he's not unhinged, he's not hysterical, he's not depressed, he's really in a surprisingly good mood. And he's absolutely convinced that he will win. He's absolutely convinced that whatever they throw at him, he can handle. When you heard things like he's thin-skinned and he's like a man, baby, what's the reality of him? I have not, I've never experienced that and I spent a lot of time with him. I traveled with him now about a month and a half ago for four days and I was surprised at how you can, you can be in a situation 20 years ago and walk away from it and come back and everything is exactly the same. It's exactly the same.

Starting point is 01:01:29 So Bill Maar says Trump is beating Biden because he would clean cities. Bill Maar, it should be the Trump's polling, successful or Biden to the perception that Trump would take proactive measures to address deteriorating cities. Ma humorously pointed out the temporary nature of San Francisco cleanup efforts stating, put aside the fact that you can clean up the, with company coming over, he elaborated when he talks, I'm gonna put, put people in camps, the immigrants, all this kind of stuff, and people just see a place,

Starting point is 01:01:59 a country, especially in those cities that look out of control. Donna Brazil and Adam Kinzinger, guess on a Mars show, concurred with Mars assessment. Anyways, Brazil emphasized that people clean up when something different happens and raise questions about finding long-term solutions particularly with homeless individuals. The reality of it is, right now,

Starting point is 01:02:19 if this guy comes back and he wins, and Argentina did what they did. Italy had it a couple years ago. More and more people are just kind of going to leave me alone. I kind of want to build my life. I don't want to be controlled the way I am. Eight feet of happens in America. I think this is going to be a very weird

Starting point is 01:02:40 entertaining four years if Trump wins. Again, if he wins, it is so early. It's second quarter with, you know, five minutes left. It's not even half time yet. Would you agree? It's second quarter with five minutes left. Yes, and in politics, a week is a lifetime. A week, and things can change very dramatically.

Starting point is 01:02:58 Do we have a terrorist attack on American soil against American interests? That would change things. Let's pray not. No, obviously, but it's a very real possibility. We have let several millions of people into the country that we can't even identify. We know there's 128 people on the FBI's list. How many got through that we didn't catch?

Starting point is 01:03:20 So, it's going to be a tumultuous 12 months here and all of those events can change everything. What's the likelihood that the Democratic Party will just go down with the ship? Look, if you see, because I watched that whole Meet the Press when they did all those stats and everything, they had Senator Blumenthal from Connecticut on and he basically was like, she asked him, Kristen Walker, do you think that Joe Biden is still the best candidate? Yes, I believe that Joe Biden is still the best candidate. So he still has his advocates out there in the Senate

Starting point is 01:03:54 who are basically saying, yeah, yeah, no, he's still our guy. What's the likelihood there? Just that's it. They see all the numbers. They see the polling and they're like, nope, we're rolling with Biden. I think it's unlikely, I really do. He's playing the inside game, but he doesn't really believe that. He's just saying it kind of because he has to. But I really think the

Starting point is 01:04:14 handwriting's on the wall. I think they recognize if they re-nominate Biden, there's a high probability they lose. They don't understand the toxic mix they have of rising crime, the fentanyl crisis, the cities all now and states now all being broke because we have to spend for social services for this influx of illegal migrants Mix messaging in the in the Middle East where we appear to be on both sides funding both sides $100 billion more for Iran. This is a death wish. This is insanity. I like when you think about, you know, these guys were able to count 99.4% of all the votes in Argentina. Okay. And it took us 40 days, 30 days. Whatever the timeline is to vote. Yeah. Weird. Is that weird? Whether you're left, center, how to hell did a country like Argentina,

Starting point is 01:05:08 how would they be able to count as many votes as they did, as quickly as they did, and America can't do it, we are supposed to be the leaders of the free world. How is that possible? Because it's purposeful. They have paper ballots in France. They counted 38 million votes in one day. It can be done.

Starting point is 01:05:26 But it's instructive that no state, certainly none of the swing states, have had any significant reform in their election laws that will govern the next presidential election since the last presidential election. With the one exception, there was a challenge to mail in ballots in Pennsylvania as being unconstitutional. They clearly are. It means very specifically laid out in the Constitution.

Starting point is 01:05:51 The lower courts knock them out, the middle courts sustain the lower courts, the state supreme court, which is extremely political reinstated them. So we're going to have mail in ballots in Pennsylvania again. In all honesty, I question whether you can win Pennsylvania as a Republican as long as you have mail-in ballots. The Philadelphia machine is a pretty famous at their ability to manipulate these. So, will we have, there's two questions here, can Trump win? Yes, he most definitely win. Can win. Meaning, will there be enough votes to be a majority? But will we have a free, fair, honest, transparent election in which everyone has confidence?

Starting point is 01:06:28 I think that's still an open question. Roger, one more for you. If you don't mind, you've been around politics for better half of 40 years, right? What will a second Trump presidency look like? You have an inside relationship. Let me know what's going on. What would that actually look like for the country?

Starting point is 01:06:44 I think it will be a pretty radical presidency. First of all, Dwight Eisenhower deported 1.3 illegals. We have got to take these people who entered the country illegally and we have to deport them. It's not unreasonable. They're not as he told you he wants to do that. He said it publicly. It doesn't need to tell me.

Starting point is 01:07:01 I mean, he's announced it. Well, public statements are different than what he actually tells someone that he actually is president. But he is he is said it. He would reform, you know, our intelligence agencies. He would certainly reform our law enforcement agencies. He does these long form policy videos, but because they're up on true social, they don't

Starting point is 01:07:23 get the kind of currency that they should get because they're up on true social, they don't get the kind of currency that they should get because they're very detailed, they're very well thought out, and these presentations quite good, but they don't get the kind of attention they deserve. But he's on virtually every issue. He's put out detailed positions. I urge people to watch them. I got a couple of stories I want to get to before we get into John F. Kennedy, 60-year anniversary coming up tomorrow.

Starting point is 01:07:50 Sean Combs and Singer Cassie settled lawsuit. I think took 24 hours record breaking how quickly this was. Hip-hop mogul Diddy and Singer Cassie Ventura have reached a sediment abuse lawsuit filed by Ventura. The terms of the sediment have not been disclosed. Ventura had accused Combs of using drugs and alcohol to control her during the decade-long relationship alleging physical abuse and four sexual acts with male prostitutes including an alleged rape in 2018 combs lawyer has called these claims outrageous lies the lawsuit also lists several of combs businesses as defendants and combs known as puffed adipi diddi and diddi as a long history music industry and business ventures including his Sean John clothing line Vinnie what are your thoughts so they reported this on barstool sports I saw something with actually put all the court documents out there so just give you guys a little heads up of why he settled and it was so fast

Starting point is 01:08:39 in the court documents he had she she alleged that he had severe rage issues he would beat he would regularly beat her give her black black eyes, fat lips, kick her in the face, kick her in the stomach. He would hire male escorts that were all wear a mask. He'd give them all cocaine, exes, he ketamine, just to name a few and he would have them all perform sexual acts, her with them while he watched, masturbated and filmed it. Okay, so no wonder why he doesn't want this out. He also beat her so bad once in the hallway of the answer Continental Hotel that he paid $50,000 cash to the hotel

Starting point is 01:09:09 to obtain the footage, which is what a great hotel because they're helping you cover up your shitty attitude. Now that we've been told in the past, like, think about this. We've been told, believe all women, right, Adam? We talked about this the last time that this was mentioned. And holder abusers accountable. Apparently, that's true unless you pay the person, you pay the female a lot of money, then it all goes away. Here's my question, Pat. What kind of standards are we teaching the younger women? Like find the man who's rich, he's famous, he's powerful.

Starting point is 01:09:37 If he beats the hell out of you, forces you to have sex with people and do orgies and take all these drugs, that's fine. Just hold on to it, because one day just like what happened with her, it pays off. If they're true, if they're actually true and provable allegations, shouldn't he be in jail to help with the money, to help with all that? What's the difference between him, Roger, then Bill Cosby or or Arkelli? She can prove these facts.

Starting point is 01:09:59 This is the court. This is the court document. These are the court documents. Pat, he was, he was drugging her, bringing people to have sex. He was recording it. He's doing all this thing. And what, as Americans, we're supposed to just go, okay, he paid her. Let's just all let it go away.

Starting point is 01:10:16 Is that what we want to teach the younger generation and these younger girls? Like listen, you're going to get abused. He's going to beat you. He's going to do all this stuff. He's going to make you have sex with drugs, but guess what, hold on to it, cause you're gonna get paid in the future. I didn't know if this is a shitty, shitty way,

Starting point is 01:10:31 he belongs in jail. If Art Kelly's in jail and Bill Cosby got arrested, he belongs in jail. Those guys both went to trial. They both had trials in this country. You're still innocent till proven guilt and those are still allegations, shocking, yes. But this matter's not gonna go to court. Maybe he doesn't want to go to court for a lot of reasons. Yes, but this matter is not going to go to court.

Starting point is 01:10:45 Maybe he doesn't want to go to court for a lot of reasons. I'll say this. There's nothing in his clothing line that I would be willing to. What do you think? I like this one ran out of this apartment with a firearm and pursuit of a rival industry executive who he learned was nearby. Ladies and gentlemen, in the world of hip hop, that's called negotiation. So Adam, because you look up a man's car. earned person nearby. Ladies and gentlemen, in the world of hip hop, that's called negotiation. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:11:06 So Adam, because you live up a man's car. Yeah, he missed that. He blew up what's in the air. The guy was scared about, he was threatened to blow up his car and actually blew up. Because that, unless we, you mentioned, you were like, eh, this whole believe all women, she's just trying to get money. I get it. I don't think that this is the case when she has all this information, all these allegations,

Starting point is 01:11:23 and that's him not to want it to go to court. Yeah, I think we've, if we've learned anything over the last, uh, since basically 2017, the Me Too movement that there's probably a gray area in between here. Of course. It's not black and white. It's not like he's all bad. She's all good.

Starting point is 01:11:40 We saw her in Johnny Depp, turns out Amber Heard was a fucking shit and liar. Yeah. Okay. We all know what's going on with Andrew Tate. It's an absolute travesty. We see what's happening with Russell Brand. There's a big difference. Here's a difference. What the difference is, Johnny Depp said, let's go to court and bring in the cameras.

Starting point is 01:11:54 Yeah. Did he say no, no, no. Let's not go to court. I don't want the cameras in the room, man. I like Johnny and Andrew. No, Depp. Yeah. Again, but everything that happened with Russell Brand,

Starting point is 01:12:06 but do I think that Diddy was doing some wild ass shit for sure. Punching her in the face and beating her. That's a whole different situation. Disgusting, horrible, no man should ever put his hands on a warm hammer whatsoever. Yep, but here's the next question. Why didn't she leave?

Starting point is 01:12:24 Why didn't she leave? Well, some people, I'm, she, but here's the next question. Why didn't she leave? Why didn't she leave? Well, some people, she's got money, okay? She was a hip hop star in early 2000s. Why did she stay? That's my question. Like if a guy's beating you, get the fuck out of there. But it's easier said, well, some of these girls have that, what's that syndrome?

Starting point is 01:12:41 Where they stay with the abuse, right? Stop, I'm syndrome. Stop, I'm syndrome. I think I think that's what's going on here. I don't think that that's the question in a situation like this. It's holding somebody like that because he's an evil, he seems like an evil piece of shit. And that's not only the rumors, it's keeping him accountable. Look at all the, like, if, you know what, you know what, if I be in that, if I be in

Starting point is 01:12:59 that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in that, if I be in are the courts and they settled. So it's over. Well, they said they settled. She didn't have to settle. She didn't have to settle. She didn't have to settle, but what I'm saying is,

Starting point is 01:13:07 she's good to said, fuck you. I'm not taking your offer. I'm not settling and they could have gone to court. But she settled. Yes, she won't. Yes, guess what? She wants compensation for everything that he's done. Exactly.

Starting point is 01:13:17 And she's getting it. I still think settling is one thing, but holding him accountable. So why don't you call Cassie and say, listen, let me be your trial attorney. I'm not a lawyer. Let's take this to criminal court And let me handle this point though. What's that they she's settled?

Starting point is 01:13:28 Just don't you don't need to scream. What's your point? We're fired up. I know you want just the audio is high. So what's your point with settling tell me well? So what's your point you're making? This is a civil trial right? Yeah, yeah, right. So a civil trial is what, over money, over property, over human, human, no damage, he has like, exactly what he's saying. You're saying what, you're saying his evil because he's settled fast, you're saying

Starting point is 01:13:52 why are you settling, if it's that important if you're why he's taking a money? Correct. Okay, I get you. Yeah, it's good point. You got it for $30 million, she got somewhere between $0 and $30 million. She named her price, she got it, she's done.

Starting point is 01:14:05 Great, and I will, you know, I agree. A part of it is, you're 19 years old, she's helping him get the career going. At that time, Diddy is Diddy. I mean, he's bigger than what he is today. He helped her get her career going. Oh, sorry, yeah, he helped her get the career going. He was 37, she was 19.

Starting point is 01:14:19 I've seen the clip of him running into studio from studio to studio to studio and he runs in and Cassie's there recording and you haven't seen this one. Very interesting clips are going all over the place with what he was doing. This is a very interesting guy, very interesting guy that he is and the most fascinating part about this is while this is happening, how many people came out defending Diddy? Zero. I haven't heard one person come on and say, I mean, you get one or two or three or four or five zero.

Starting point is 01:14:52 You're right. And used the day JLo in two, and they're about to ask JLo about what it was like to dating Diddy. You should see how she speaks. She speaks as if she's speaking sign language. Oh, really? And she says, I wasn't mature enough. I had to really, I wasn't ready for a relationship like that because back then, I really didn't

Starting point is 01:15:15 value myself. It wasn't like, you know, anyways, listen, I'm not a fan of anybody I talked to. Nobody else good things to say about. No, and how many, trust me, I've heard way crazier allegations and stuff like that about it. But Adam, when you said, why didn't she leave? She was 19 years old with the 37 year old superstar. That's kind of, you know, but it's not like they dated for six months, Fannie. They were together 10 years.

Starting point is 01:15:44 Yeah, but when they started dating her, she's a grown up at this point. Not at 19 years old, Adam. She feels like, exactly. So it started then, but it's not like they had a two-month stint. They're together 10 years. Yeah. So meaning she was 19 until she's basically 30.

Starting point is 01:15:58 Yeah. So it's not like she's some child that couldn't make her own decisions. But if he's hitting her, that's horrible. Never do that to a woman. If he's drugging or doing this weird ass shit, zero, zero advocacy for that. But she needs to say, you know what,

Starting point is 01:16:12 I don't care that this guy's a full on billionaire. I don't care that this guy made my career. I'm out. Let's transition out to an important story. New study reveals one in four remote workers are sneaking off to have sex while on the job. What? Yeah, just came out.

Starting point is 01:16:24 Where's Tom? It's finally interesting. And by the way, you know the job. What? Yeah, just came out. Where's Tom? Tom? It's really interesting. By the way, you know who's doing remote workers? You know who's doing this is? Fox News. Okay. Go figure.

Starting point is 01:16:32 What's up? A recent study by calendar labs revealed that 26% of remote workers in the US are engaging in sexual activities during work hours with researchers noting as remote work becomes more common, it tracks that scheduled intimacy extends into workplace for some who work from home remote workers have been using emojis like sandwitch, headphones or fire to deceive colleagues and bosses leading them to believe they're occupied with work-related tasks while they are actually having sex. The trend is unlimited to remote workers as one in ten office workers have also found

Starting point is 01:17:09 opportunities for sexual encounters at work. The study highlights that scheduled intimacy correlates with higher relationships, satisfaction with 49% of those who plan. I had reporting higher overall satisfaction and better intimacy fulfillment compared to those who don't. Vinnie. Listen, if we're talking about this, maybe this might be helping the fact that we're not having enough babies, but like, like, you have to put a sandwich and be like, if you're

Starting point is 01:17:36 at home, what do you think people are doing? It's not, it's not only that. They're doing other stuff. You know what I mean? I don't, it kind of explains why you and Brady always run off to launch the middle of the day. Yeah, you know what, wait, what? Well, listen, we all know that you get a job for money

Starting point is 01:17:51 for income but also benefits. Well, it comes with the benefits. You get insurance, you get your 401k. Maybe there's a profit sharing fan. Yeah. And maybe you get a little sexy time-dern lunch. I think it works out well for employees. What do you think, Raj?

Starting point is 01:18:04 What do I shine up? Raj Stone. Want to work from home? Anybody? Working from home. Well, we saw some economic reports that said 33% of America were worried about getting laid off and then 22% of just were getting laid off. Yeah, laid off. And 22% of just worried about getting laid. So it's like, excuse me, what was the question? But, you know, Pat, you've told some wild ass stories about what you've seen in your day. These two, these two, these two of them,

Starting point is 01:18:33 I came in the office of the Sunday, they weren't working very hard. You built a company with 30,000 plus insurance agents, a lot of the more couples, you dealt with a lot of this stuff. You're wonder, like this work from home phenomenon, like that these young generations deceive some of these companies that fell for this trap. Like I work harder at home than I do at the office.

Starting point is 01:18:55 Who the hell believes that? You're an independent contractor, you work 1099, you're a consultant, whatever. It is what it is. We have plenty of them. And I've been in that space for, you know, what do you call it, 20 years. But you got W2 full-timeers working from home, claiming they're more efficient at home

Starting point is 01:19:12 than they are at the office. It took three years to realize that was an absolute myth. Now this may be another reason why they may be selling the benefits of working from home. Exactly. And who knows whether it's gonna work for their favor or not. You guys know where I stand when it comes on to this. Okay, all right, next story is teen boys are falling for a Snapchat nude photo scam.

Starting point is 01:19:36 Here's how to avoid it. This is a Wall Street Journal story, okay parents. Listen up, it's a worthy story for you to see what's going on here with Snap. So scammers are targeting teen boys and an online nude photo scam posing as teen girls to solicit explicit photos from the boys and then demanding money via peer-to-peer payment apps threatening to share their photos if they don't pay the national center for missing and exploited children have seen a significant increase

Starting point is 01:20:04 in reports of this type of financial extortion with over 12,500 cases this year reported. Snapchat's parent company conducted a survey revealing that 65% of respondents or their friends have been targeted in schemes where attackers obtain explicit personal imagery and threaten to release it. Most of the victims or boys, parents and teens can take preventative measures, including educating teens about such scams, advising them to engage with strangers, requesting explicit content,

Starting point is 01:20:33 protecting their social media accounts and supervising payment apps, Tom. Look, you know what this is? This is a failure and parenting. That phone, that computer, that laptop is not a babysitter for your kids This is a failure of parenting because you know what? you know

Starting point is 01:20:51 Predators have been around forever There was the playground predators predators that were often kids candy and trying to control them And then they would go off and exploit them and worse and you you just have your parents here. Parents and schools need to work together because in the digital world here, this is what's going on. And what they're not talking about in this is we have seen statistics on suicides of girls under 16 that are relating to being cornered or shamed

Starting point is 01:21:21 and being terribly fearful. And so I think what's going on here, you need to know what your kids are doing, what we do, and I'll give you a tip here. And I saw a talk on this, I wasn't born with this information, but God bless that people put it together. I teach my girls to reason and resist,

Starting point is 01:21:37 to reason with what's going on. First of all, foundation of which, right and wrong, don't put yourself in this position. But to reason when you encounter people and things that look weird and people are approaching you and stuff and to resist the temptation to be included and to resist, you know, things like social media where I don't know what good happens on social media. But I, this is, this is downstream from parenting, absent parenting, and upstream decisions like letting your kids just use that phone and use that iPad and use that PC all day.

Starting point is 01:22:12 What are they doing? They're going to these sites and professionals are getting to them. Tom, let me ask you a follow up on that PBD as well. And Rob, you've got a teenage boy. So it's pretty clear. I don't have any kids. I have a nephew who's 10 years old, but the parent thing game has changed. You know, when we were raised, what were they saying? Like, you know, don't get in the stranger's cars. Yeah. You don't take candy from

Starting point is 01:22:37 strangers. It was basically like, go out play. Do your thing. Just don't talk to random ass strangers. Now all the strangers are on the internet. Yeah. Okay, and they're hitting you up and they're doing all this weird ass stuff, and parents haven't been trained for this. You know, when did the internet even become popular as far as social media goes? 2010, 2012, maybe before that a little bit of Facebook. So what steps can parents take, especially if there's no parenting social media class, so they haven't been raised

Starting point is 01:23:03 on this stuff. What can parents do to basically, what do you call it? Resist and reason and reason. Reason and reason. What's your message of parents out there? My message for parents, and I like to hear Roger thinks about this,

Starting point is 01:23:16 distracted youth have been an issue for a long time. When TV really exploded, and it was more than just soap operas on any afternoon, people are like, don't let your kids just sit there and watch TV all day. You know, that's not the way to distract them, but the TV wasn't DMing you. No, but it was the point is there's been distraction versus productive things. Number one, engaging with your kids, number two, knowing what they're engaging with, number three, encouraging them and rewarding them

Starting point is 01:23:47 for things like reading and getting grades in school. And, you know, look, we know how to manage companies. Whatever gets measured gets managed. It's an amazing thing. You know, people that want to bonus or a promotion, whatever you manage, suddenly they cooperate and do things. You change your bonus structure. Hey, we, the company has to hit a certain revenue.

Starting point is 01:24:06 We have to have a certain profit. And if the company gets a profit, then we pay you. Suddenly everybody's very interested every month on how the company's doing on profit because they want their bonus. But I think, I think it starts there. Or are you engaged with your kids' lives? And are you giving them incentives to do the good things?

Starting point is 01:24:23 Roger. Parents and grandparents are using the cell phone, the computer, as a babysitter. And they're not monitoring what their kids are looking at. I have three young grandchildren. My kids watch very carefully what their kids are looking at. And they use some of the programs to block certain, certain apps and so on.

Starting point is 01:24:49 I think it's just a total absence of parental responsibilities. Like, okay, let me along. Go look at the computers. Like they're using these babysitters. It's very dangerous. Yeah. And by the way, awareness, education is the key

Starting point is 01:25:03 to all of this stuff. There's a movie I recommend every parent to watch. Husband wife watch it first before you want to show it to your kids because it's pretty dark. It's called Disconnect. I would Jason Bateman, if you've never seen it, go watch this movie as soon as possible. It'll tell you the dark side of what's going on right now and how kids are being affected by this.

Starting point is 01:25:24 Okay. What story do we want to go? Let's go to the story and then we'll wrap it up with, I think I'll combine these two together. So Elon Musk's ex-advertisement nightmare companies that have boycott it, the app, and it is not slowing down right now if you can go to page 15.

Starting point is 01:25:43 Here we go. So Elon Musk has faced major boycoff from companies and government bodies that are from an after endorsing an allegedly anti-Semitic post on ex-Musk's response to a post that seemed to promote an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory sparked backlash. Major companies including Apple IBM, European Commission, Disney Paramount, Sony Pictures, Warner Brothers, Sky and NBC Universal owner Comcast have suspended advertising on X and's response to Musk's controversial remarks.

Starting point is 01:26:09 Media Matters reported that ads from big brands were peering alongside pro-Nazi content on the platform, the White House condemned Musk's promotion of anti-Semitism and Musk's response by vowing to protect free speech on X claiming media matters, misrepresented a platform's user experience and accusing them of trying to undermine freedom of speech. Tom? First of all, I find it very interesting how the media has lined up 100% against the guy that was trying to put free

Starting point is 01:26:41 speech out there and not just cancel accounts and take them off Twitter. A very interesting Disney, Paramount, Sony Pictures, Warner Bros. Sky, NBC Universal, and its owner, Comcast. That's interesting. All the people that have been very frustrated that they can't force X and Twitter to cancel a lot of conservative and moderate voices. Interesting. And then Apple and IBM joining.

Starting point is 01:27:02 Look. Was it the best post that Elon Musk has made this year? No. Is it at a very inflammable time that's going on right now? Yes. But I look also to what Elon Musk said in a more extended, you know, a segment from an interview where he was explaining what was going on. And I think he was very clear about about it and i think people are choosing

Starting point is 01:27:26 to be inflamed about this because he's a target in the first place well and uh... it based on the lawsuit filed in texas yesterday media matters is basically manipulated this so what they claim is not even true uh... it's an extraordinary lawsuit how coincident that the head of all those companies are the same people who met with Chairman G in San Francisco last week. How incredibly coincidental. Elon Musk, they're very, very few people

Starting point is 01:27:52 who can say that they changed the course of history. Elon Musk is one of those few people. His acquisition of Twitter and his revelations about the manipulation of Twitter under the previous ownership have literally changed the course of history. Well, I'm sort of a free speech absolutist, right? Like, unless it's inciting violence, I would say, go ahead and say it. I can't tell you how much Jew hatred I've gotten.

Starting point is 01:28:25 Jew hatred I've gotten, even before the Hamas Israel war, and it's disgusting, it's horrible, but I'm a grown-ass man. I'd rather hear all the negativity online, and okay, cool, this is what I'm dealing with, rather than they're saying it amongst themselves, and by the way, whether it's Jew hatred, whether it's racist stuff, whether it's anti-Arab stuff, Islamophobia, anti-LGBT, people are gonna say they're shit,

Starting point is 01:28:48 whatever they have, it's horrible, it's disgusting, but it's not only do I offend your right to say it, I defend your right to say it, even if it hurts my feelings. And I think we're at a point in this country where feelings are getting hurt and that's fine. And as long as you don't call for violence, which some are, by the way, I think it's in with in your right to say it, even though that's fine. And as long as you don't call for violence, which some are, by the way, I think it's in within your right to say it,

Starting point is 01:29:08 even though it's disgusting. Well, I feel pretty strong about this because I'm banned for life on Facebook, I'm banned for life on Instagram, I'm banned for life on YouTube. I'm obviously the most dangerous person in the world. By the way, there is somebody on Facebook pretending to be me.

Starting point is 01:29:23 I've had several people who are members, including my wife, complained about it. He's got 6,500 followers, which is pretty good, but he is not me. They won't take it down. So no, I think what Musk has done is really courageous. And the political aspects of it, the fact that our intelligence agencies were leaning on the company to censor certain profiles, certain people, certain messages, hundreds of Biden's laptop, and so on. This has really kind of changed our politics in a very substantial way. And I would point out to you now, the Biden administration has put forward regulations for the FCC to regulate content on the internet.

Starting point is 01:30:07 So we're now going to go above the social media program platforms to try to get censorship at that level. It's unconstitutional. It's extraordinarily dangerous. Here's what Sasha Baron Cohen told TikTok leaders. He said they are creating the biggest anti-Semitic movement since the Nazis. And this is a left-wing Jewish celebrity, Sasha Barakowin, expressed concerns during a private call with TikTok leaders about the platform's role in spreading anti-Semitism. Cohen criticized TikTok stating, what is happening at TikTok is it is creating the biggest

Starting point is 01:30:41 anti-Semitic movement since the Nazis, debbra Messing known for her role in Willing Grace, emphasized that TikTok, a China-owned company has become the main platform from diso-, diso-, diso-, diso-, diso-, dissemination of Jew H. She pointed to the, uh, to the use of the slogan from the river to the sea, in question TikTok's policy on the dressing anti-Semitic content. Look, you know, on one end, you have one argument with, uh, Twitter on the other end, you have one argument with Twitter on the other end

Starting point is 01:31:06 you have another argument with TikTok. What are your thoughts for yourself from what Sasha is saying here? I mean, it's true. You see what's going on out there and It's it's sad, but I mean, I just kind of addressed this before I look I grew up I'm coming Miami It's a melting pot. I'm friends with Jewish people, Catholic people, Christian people, Hispanic people, Black people, Asian people, Jamaican Haitian, the whole thing. And I've never dealt with any of this. Like the first time I ever dealt with Jew hatred was when I went to play college football in North Carolina and

Starting point is 01:31:40 I told them it's actually a funny story. And all the And all the, I basically didn't practice on Yom Kippur, which is basically the whole day of a Jewish, and I'm not very religious, but I believe in tradition. I believe in my culture, and I told the coach, I said, hey, I can't practice today, it's Yom Kippur. And this is like, he was like a 75 year old white guy in North Carolina. He's never, I don't even think he was seen a Jew.

Starting point is 01:32:09 He goes, oh, yum, what? I said, uh, Yum Kippur, the David Toam, and it's kind of like, kind of like Easter for Christians. Uh, yum, what? Boy, get out there, put your pads on on. We had to get practice. We got big game this Sunday, the Saturday. I'm like, uh, yeah, I can't, I'm not allowed to eat today.

Starting point is 01:32:27 I'm not like, but I'm here. I'll just watch practice. Boy, I didn't want to hear what this yum kipper thing is all about here, boy. Just, you know what, you know what, put on your pads. Walk around and pick up trash. Yeah. I was like, really?

Starting point is 01:32:41 I'm gonna, you're gonna keep it. I'm gonna go pick up trash on your own keeper. And I was just like, all right, this guy's never been around, Drew's just fine, so I picked up trash, no big deal. But since that time, all my teammates started calling me brute. Short for Hebrew.

Starting point is 01:32:57 I was like, this school's awesome. So, didn't spend much time there. Transfer to Florida State did my thing there, but I realized that what Jews are, what, didn't spend much time there. Transfer to Florida State did my thing there. But I realized that you like what Jews are what 1% of America 1% of the world yet were the Where the cause of all the world's problems. It's sort of obnoxious to me and Jews have dealt with this since Eternity and they've been scapegoated throughout history whether whether it's in Egypt, whether it's a suspension of acquisition, whether it's Nazi Germany

Starting point is 01:33:27 and whether it's what's going on today. And, you know, I'm, I guess, in a sense, Zionist, where I do believe that Jews need a home and a safe space, and that is now called modern day Israel, and even that is the nicest place in the worst neighborhood in the world. And it's sad to see what's going on, but Jews, they have us Jews, we have a phrase that is basically culminated since

Starting point is 01:33:52 the Holocaust, which is never again. People want exterminators. Famously, they say if people of Palestine put down all their guns, there will be peace. If the people of Israel put down their guns, they will all be massacred. So the Jews have had to build up the IDF and the Masad and build up a defense mechanism, not to be slaughtered for the sake that they are just Jews.

Starting point is 01:34:15 So for me, I'm not the most religious person, you know, I'm not going to temple or church like you guys are going every Sunday, but I do understand what's going on in the world right now and it's sad to see, and people need to speak out about it. So Sasha Baron is going good for you. And I think the Elon thing is ridiculous,

Starting point is 01:34:31 because media matters is a complete shitty, horrible, like media matter sucks. This is the question was about TikTok, and that's a China owned company. How, they're pushing the LGBTQ on the youth, hard, hardcore. They have all these challenges, Pat, they make the youth do what? Tide pod challenges to just lighting yourself on fire challenges. They're brainwashing the youth.

Starting point is 01:34:54 They're being anti-saleck. And but here's the thing, Adam, what are they trying to do whatever they want? Didn't Trump try to say that he wanted to get rid of TikTok? We were at the RNC debate. I don't know if he was there in Miami. I know I was in high league. Trump rally. But Trump rally respect.

Starting point is 01:35:09 But I don't know if he's trying to China can do whatever they want. And guess what? It's out there. You can see what they're doing. Chasha Bancorn knows what's up. But what are you going to do? China could do both. China comes to San Francisco.

Starting point is 01:35:21 They grab all the homeless and kick them out. And somebody said this is your day pat, where are those homeless people? Apparently, like, they disappear. All the people in those streets, apparently there were vans driving around Roger, picking them up, putting them in the vans, and getting rid of them. They haven't come back. Where are those thousands of homeless people that were in San Francisco? Have you ever noticed that?

Starting point is 01:35:41 But gone. Again, the most outrageous part of this is media matters America, which is a smear operation. Accusing Elon Musk of anti-Semitism on the basis of manipulated stuff on the site is complete bullshit. He is most definitely not an anti-Semite. It's a bum rap. It's a smear.

Starting point is 01:35:59 Yeah, guy that's trying to save the human race is racist towards one. Get out, get me a gun. Guys, we're $300 billion. Can buy countries, all countries if he wants to, and he's gonna go out there and do what he's doing here. In a way, let's wrap it up with, let's wrap it up with the 60 year anniversary

Starting point is 01:36:15 tomorrow, John F. Kennedy assassination. I've had a lot of different people on Roger on this topic. You've written a book on it, a New York Times best selling book, the man who killed Kennedy, the case against LBJ, I had a guy on the podcast, I interviewed him six years ago, Jim Jenkins, Rob, you can pull this up. When I was interviewing Jim Jenkins,

Starting point is 01:36:38 I asked him a question, he was one of the four people in the room that held John F. Kennedy's brain, okay Jim Jenkins and we released this interview on it could have been the one of the anniversary dates And a video was taken down for six hours. It was trending in a very good way and it was came back up the next day And I said who out of all the people, you know Who do you think was behind it? This is a guy that's been away for 50 years. He was in a military, was in a navy, doesn't want any attention, doesn't do any interviews,

Starting point is 01:37:10 doesn't talk to anybody. Somehow, someway, we got him to feel comfortable to come and talk to us. And I had him on the show and his wife was sitting right next to me, they've been married for 50 plus years. He says the only, the one man that makes me feel very uncomfortable is Lyndon Johnson, is who he said. Well, how did you come to the conclusion that Lyndon Johnson was behind the assassination of John of Kennedy?

Starting point is 01:37:32 Uh, basically Richard Nixon told me that. He said that the Warren Commission was the biggest goddamn hoax in American history. And I had, I'd always had my suspicions, but the point here is that everybody who's analyzed the Kennedy assassination looks at it for a specific prison. So Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is right when he says the CIA is involved. Others are right when they so organized crime was involved. Yet others are right when they say the FBI was involved, the Secret Service, Big Texas Oil, the International Banks.

Starting point is 01:38:06 But Lyndon Johnson is the lynchpin. He is the nexus to all of those institutions and individuals. And he is the man who has the most acute interest. Lyndon Johnson is under federal investigation in the Bobby Baker scandal and the Billy Salesta scandal. Robert Kennedy's begun telling people he's going to be charged. John Kennedy tells Evelyn Lincoln, his personal secretary, on his way to Dallas on the plane. Johnson is being dropped from the ticket.

Starting point is 01:38:32 Johnson's a man staring into the abyss. He knows he is going to prison. Drew Pearson, the most influential columnist of the day, already has a column in the can for that Sunday, the day after Kennedy is supposed to be in Dallas, nailing Johnson for taking a bribe for a general dynamics defense appropriation. So Johnson has motive, means an opportunity. He's the man who insists that Kennedy go to Dallas to bind up the wounds between the progressive and bourbon wings of the Democratic Party.

Starting point is 01:39:06 He goes to Kennedy's hotel room the night before he tries to change the motorcade seating to put his hated enemy Senator Ralph Yarbrough in the death car with Kennedy and move his former administrative assistant Governor John Connelly to the vice presidential car. Kennedy says, no, that defeats the whole purpose of why I'm here. I need to be seen with Connelly, the headats the whole purpose of why I'm here. I need to be seen with Connolly, the head of the more conservative wing of the party. And in my book, I prove using I witness evidence, fingerprint evidence, and deep Texas politics that Johnson and all these other entities, each of whom has their own motive, the CIA, about the anger over the Bay of Pigs failure, the anger

Starting point is 01:39:48 over Kennedy's secret deal to remove our missiles from Turkey and Italy in the Cuban missile crisis, big oil over the repeal of the text of the oil depletion allowance, organized crime, who feels double crossed by JFK, because they financed his election and they bended arms for him, broke arms for him, in Chicago, and in Texas in 1960, which he wins a razor thin victory. So everybody has their own individual interests, the banks, because Kennedy is demanding a silver back dollar.

Starting point is 01:40:23 They don't want to go there. But Johnson has unique relationship with each one of them. And I actually prove that among the fingerprints found on the cardboard boxes in the crow's nest is the fingerprint for a man named Malcolm McWalis who was convicted in 1951 of murder. That's how we have his fingerprints. He murdered a man named Douglas Kinzer who was in a love trial with Johnson's sister and who was trying to blackmail Lyndon Johnson. He was represented at trial by Johnson's personal attorney, John Cofor. And he's the only man in the history of Texas to be convicted of murder and get a suspended sentence where a pondie then goes to work at Temco, a defense contractor owned by D. H. Burd, one of the financiers of Johnson's

Starting point is 01:41:17 career, and the owner of the Texas Schoolbook Depository Building. So when I asked Nixon point blank after a couple cocktails, because Nixon was very buttoned out, it was very hard to get him to talk, you know, retrospectively about anything. It was very forward looking until 930. Until he had a couple of silver bullets, as he would call it. Yeah. They had a couple martinis and then he got loquacious. And and I said I said to him so mr. President me ask you a question who really killed John Kennedy kind of stared into his martini and He shuttered and he said well Dallas. I said, I'm sorry. I don't understand. He said let me put to another way

Starting point is 01:41:58 Lyndon and I both wanted to be president the difference was I wasn't willing to kill for it There it is you laid it right out. And that was really my inspiration. It took me five years to write this book, but that was really my inspiration for writing the book. So when Robert Kennedy says the CIA did it, he's not wrong. You know, when Sam Jean-Condis daughter writes a terrific book, it says that the mob did it.

Starting point is 01:42:23 She's not wrong. I mean, everybody has their own interest but johnson has unique relationship with each time what you had with this when you hear this because i know you put a lot of time into this not at the levels of roger so i am i landed where roger land because i i look at you know the immediacy of impact i look at you know people say twenty four hours of impact. I look at, you know, people say 24 hours.

Starting point is 01:42:46 I don't think it was 24 hours. And it was 84 hours. Lyndon Johnson was basically allowing the military industrial complex to do what they wanted, which was to get more federal money to replenish arms. And they were gonna use up those arms and Vietnam. So it's literally, it's correct, right? It's like three and a half days,

Starting point is 01:43:05 three and a half days. The national period of mourning is not over and Lyndon Johnson has greenlit the Vietnam War number one. And number two, he's provided assurances to Alan Dulles of the CIA who ended up on the Warren Commission. Who Kennedy had just fired? Who Kennedy had just fired because Kennedy gave the famous quote, the CIA needs to be torn in little pieces and scattered to the winds of history. I'm butchering the quote,

Starting point is 01:43:31 but that was essentially the quote, correct? Smashed into a million pieces and scattered to the wind. Because they had betrayed him. So the Bay of Pigs master plan included 29 pain and manoe the inflagged bombers flown, supposed to be flown by Cuban pilots. Correct. So that's the air cover for the men's storming the beach.

Starting point is 01:43:52 Unbeknownst to JFK, Charles Cable, the number two man in the CIA, whose brother Earl just happens to be the mayor of Dallas, cancels that. So the men are now being chopped up on the beach and Curtis Lemay, the head of the Air Force, head of the Joint Chiefs, goes to JFK and says we have to send in the Air Force. Well, this is a provocation for war with the Russians. That's exactly what Kennedy agreed to the Bay of Pigs plan only if it had plausible deniability. It was supposed to look like

Starting point is 01:44:22 an indigenous Cuban invasion. And Eric's other coming from a separate country. Right. So he says, no, the CIA blames him for the failure. He blames them for the failure. So there is their motive. Also, and this is the most controversial thing, Kennedy has is being treated by Dr. Max Jacobs and Dr. Phil Good on an early version of methamphetamine, which he thinks he's taking a blend of enzymes and vitamins and it makes him feel better. He's a real, he's a genuine war hero and he's incredible pain in his entire life. He's wearing a back brace. He can barely walk.

Starting point is 01:45:00 I think this books explains why he's so horny, why he is, you know, chasing all the time. And it also... He's on steroids constantly. He's on steroids constantly. This is who, by the way? Jeff, pardon me? This is who you're talking about? John Kennedy, he's on steroids.

Starting point is 01:45:14 Yeah. If you look at the manifest to when Kennedy goes to Vienna for the summit with Khrushchev, Dr. Max Jacobson, who is a... Who is Doctor to the stars. He is administering his concoction to Frank Sinatra, to Maria Kale, to Aristotle O'Nassus, to Nelson Rockefeller, to Joe DiMaggio, to Marilyn Monroe. I mean, he is to Pablo Cassal's. I mean, this guy is pushing drugs and everybody thinks they're taking on all natural formula that makes them feel better.

Starting point is 01:45:48 Robert Kennedy learns about this. He gets the substance that Kennedy's injected. He sends it out to the FBI lab and they tell him what it is. And he goes back to his brother and he says, you can't, and by this time John Kennedy has Jackie Kennedy taking it. And Robert Kennedy says to his brother, this is danger, you can't be doing this.

Starting point is 01:46:08 And he said, I don't care if it's horse piss, it makes me feel better. Wow. So I think this is how they rash, this is how I think the intelligence agencies and those involved in the murder of Kennedy, this is how they rationalize it. Good God, the man's a drug addict.

Starting point is 01:46:22 He's gonna give away the store to Nikita Krushchev. We can't trust him in Vienna. This is how they justify it. Two follow-up questions there for you. One of them is first time around Trump never released the Kennedy stuff. And second time around, you know, everybody's like, I can't be doing it. You know, we want to have the information so well, you know, not yet. And he keeps getting delayed by both parties. Yes. What's the, who the hell is the group that goes and sits with the president

Starting point is 01:46:47 that claims before they get elected that we're gonna tell the information of what happens that convinces them to say, listen, if there's one thing you cannot release, is the fact that we killed Kennedy, because if you do see eyes gonna turn against you, what does that conversation sound like when they sit with a president?

Starting point is 01:47:03 Trump has been very blunt about this. So in 2017, I brought it to his attention that the Presidential Records Act, the Kennedy Assassination Records Act, meant that everything would be released during the first year of his presidency unless he held any of it back. And he said, what do you think I should do?

Starting point is 01:47:22 I said, you should release it all. I wouldn't. It's been at that point 50 years. And Mike Pompeo, the head of the CIA, convinced him that releasing it all would expose our methods and sources. Well, first of all, the sources part is ridiculous. There's nobody still alive who is involved in this national scandal. But secondarily, if they were involved in killing an American president, we really need to know that. So in the end, Trump agrees to hold 20% back.

Starting point is 01:47:49 I believe that 20% proved definitively what we learned in the last couple of days. Oswald is not the shooter, but more importantly, Kennedy shot from the front and back. There are multiple shooters. Oswald is well known to the CIA, well known to the FBI, they both deny that. And now it goes to Joe Biden. And Biden does the same thing. He releases more, but he still holds a little bit back. It's time for the American people to know the truth. If they release that

Starting point is 01:48:20 Roger, and we find out that the CIA and the FBI together killed a president. What happened to the CIA and the FBI are just, they're finished. They're finished. Certainly, here's the question about Twitter. But for Twitter, the Warren commission never had the autopsy photos. They were never granted access to the autopsy photos. Lehigh V. Oswald is tested for powder burns. There are no, the paraphernal test comes back negative. He hasn't chatted.

Starting point is 01:48:47 Lehigh Oswald did not pull the trigger. He did not pull the trigger. Most definitely did not pull the trigger. I have three minutes. I'll max seven. Tom, I'll give you the final and I got final question before we wrap up. Well, I was saying, it all points to OBJ because you take a look at the things that OBJ did immediately thereafter. And they were counted all the things that Kennedy was doing. And then there's been wiretaps and statements that came out of the mob where they all discussed, why are we being stabbed in the back by Joe Kennedy using RFK to prosecute all the mobsters of America except the ones that are on his lineage.

Starting point is 01:49:22 And they actually had considered offering RFK and and they said, don't do that. Because Kennedy and Joe will flip this country upside down, and there'll be no trials, so just be murders. And they said, we can't go after Bobby, you have to go after the head of the snake. And the snake was Joe Kennedy. The head of the snake was JFK because JFK's pen in the White House that gave authority to RFK Attorney General was allowing Joe Kennedy to conduct a retaliatory revenge campaign under the pen of his son, the Attorney General. So this is not conspiracy. This is what happened and you had the mob saying it was happened. And so you look at everything there, that's why she says the mob did it.

Starting point is 01:50:07 Yeah, they were interested. She's right. Last question for you. Okay, John Hankley. Okay. He's got some interesting connections to certain people as well. What happened with Reagan? Was that intentional?

Starting point is 01:50:21 Was he connected? Was he sent? Is there any fear? You read about this? it's some interesting, his brother, all this stuff, what do you go with that? If you read my book, The Bush Crime Family, I make my first case, that George H.W. Bush is complicit

Starting point is 01:50:37 in the assassination attempt on Reagan. Several things about it. First of all, the government has never released any of the final report. Leslie Stahl, then of CBS and Judy Woodruff, then of NBC, both report a second shooter on a balcony above the entrance to Hilton Hotel. But when you look at the photos, the news photos, he's been cropped out of the photo. I located the original photo. It's like with JFK, there are too many bullets. They're not all accounted for.

Starting point is 01:51:06 Reagan is hit from an upward trajectory, but Hinckley is crouching. There are a lot of questions. Hinckley's father, John Hinckley's senior, is a partner, is a part of oil in Texas. He is well known to the Bush family. Neil Bush, one of the Bush sons, is supposed to meet with John Hinkley Jr.'s brother for dinner that night.

Starting point is 01:51:30 I'm working on a new book to take the old stuff I already have, which is pretty convincing, but add all of the new stuff that I have uncovered. I think at the time Bush and Secretary of State Alexander Hague were in a struggle over control the foreign policy under the Reagan administration and this was Bush's move to take control. There you go. If you want to know more about what Raj has been talking about, ordered a New York time bestseller, the man who killed Kennedy the case against LBJ, the link will be below. And get the paper back because it has three extra chapters.

Starting point is 01:52:04 Okay, get the paper back because it's got three extra chapters. And one of you won a signed copy for those of you guys that did the survey, Rob, if we have the name so I can announce it, if you do have it, just give it. If you don't have it. Sure, the winner is Mississippi, Japan. What? That's the user's name. That's a user's name.

Starting point is 01:52:22 Mississippi, Japan is the winner of the signed copy of the man who killed the president. Mississippi, Japan. Mississippi, Japan. And last but not least, for those of you that want to get direct contact with Roger, asking him any questions. By the way, when it comes on to strategy,

Starting point is 01:52:38 this man's been involved in politics. He is loved, he's hated, he is criticized, he is feared, but the man's got a lot of experience in politics the last 50 years and he was one of the first, if not the first to say Trump's one, they're gonna be a president after the conversation, he had with them, if you wanna get in contact with them, maybe even have a phone call or FaceTime with them,

Starting point is 01:52:57 you can find him on Menec Robdo, we have the link below as well for Menec. Yes, it's in the post and it's also in the chat. If you can go to the chat and you go to Menec, just click on it, go there, DM him, he'll respond back with a video or text, or you can have a 15, 30 minute call, FaceTime call with the one and only Roger Stone. Roger, thanks for being on, this was fantastic. Gang, I believe we're doing a podcast Thursday morning on Thanksgiving, so we will properly wish you a happy Thanksgiving on Thanksgiving.

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